From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 07/09/10 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=zWjDtlURHVIP2wTBiASLs78g5C3IpeERcCtgQ6m24Ko=; b=MwJSPinD5F72wxZcx49ldoA5vXv759/EfhfVTAw7KKYUK7eRSd1cpRQGDLuM6YKRPt 1m7Te9FQR17hVuC4yJGhMiYcQdN6JXWIYp8Rlg11UKn8yGhMtq3CfwUqJFl5mCpRabcx OkMWH+okIGNqLG7hzleF0/knKWaDaVrI1StPA= From: "Aki Damme" <01dyna@XXXXXX> To: "'DC-Cycles'" Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 19:26:52 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop FWIW, I *hate* Dunlops...the pair I had on my Harley was hard and slick as hell when wet. Sure, they last a long time but that's because they're made of concrete. I'd recommend going with either the Metzlers or Avon Venoms for heavyweight cruisers. Both have great traction and I'd much rather have traction over tire life. -aki -----Original Message----- From: dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX [mailto:dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX] On Behalf Of Paul Benish To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop So i went through my the archives for the list and I couldn't find anything on this. Basically I need to get tires for my 2001 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 classic and I have been looking at Metzler but then I found a set of Dunlop 404Fs that are stupid cheap but I'm wondering if they're worth it? I saw something on here about a shop in sterling that's pretty much right behind where I live so i was going to check them out before I went and bought them but right now i'm debating whether I can justify the more expensive tires since I don't race (it's a cruiser duh) and I really don't take extremely long trips. I guess one thing that would sway me one way or another is life of the tire since i don't ride anywhere near as many miles per year as I used to. Any comments would be appreciated -Paul ------------------------------------ "Do you know what the chain of command is here? It's the chain I go get and beat you with to show you who's in ruttin' command here." --Jayne Cobb _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id :message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=O1auJ206EVqqP9kgcGJ0GI2eGKEoa5qAvRPuVIzscew=; b=E66+pm8128DGxLoGdhtm8+wHEqisCphYgdb+Y8fhBMmfLNoWkVWAEbhY1IsyC1XtUR 0/RG3aqFlhr6z7Dlu/3hCyRG9MQZpaVFzuTMRZLHmKKFkDHP1jegTZiJRCi2tMGwHNTX mE9pcXXPGYxUZ64pIFk3YNFoAnPdKeDansBFg= X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 645142631 To: "DC-Cycles" From: tdeboeser@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 23:32:48 +0000 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop I have to agree. I hate dunlops also, and I'm a big fan of avons and conti's. That said, sometimes some bikes do well on a specific tire. My superhawk seem to like dunlops better than it did bridgestones. Htcym ( hope that confused you more ), Tom de '03 st1300 Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "Aki Damme" <01dyna@XXXXXX> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 19:26:52 To: 'DC-Cycles' Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop FWIW, I *hate* Dunlops...the pair I had on my Harley was hard and slick as hell when wet. Sure, they last a long time but that's because they're made of concrete. I'd recommend going with either the Metzlers or Avon Venoms for heavyweight cruisers. Both have great traction and I'd much rather have traction over tire life. -aki -----Original Message----- From: dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX [mailto:dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX] On Behalf Of Paul Benish To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop So i went through my the archives for the list and I couldn't find anything on this. Basically I need to get tires for my 2001 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 classic and I have been looking at Metzler but then I found a set of Dunlop 404Fs that are stupid cheap but I'm wondering if they're worth it? I saw something on here about a shop in sterling that's pretty much right behind where I live so i was going to check them out before I went and bought them but right now i'm debating whether I can justify the more expensive tires since I don't race (it's a cruiser duh) and I really don't take extremely long trips. I guess one thing that would sway me one way or another is life of the tire since i don't ride anywhere near as many miles per year as I used to. Any comments would be appreciated -Paul ------------------------------------ "Do you know what the chain of command is here? It's the chain I go get and beat you with to show you who's in ruttin' command here." --Jayne Cobb _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0HT+e6I4RY15b2eEyt3OvXcT3M6pwYAIdxywBChYMG4=; b=rUkHjXRcYkXSjoygonkeNrkjPEuhg1+Foj5fYDu7tmYTCmjfw28zUMei/WdHTcnq58 k2YwZt1D2qEV6eT94uhsnUOLRhvwLjLRXee5K523sNZoMvFBRCDC4bErn8W8xCI3EGw1 2/2neD7slf+E4ANs3acZoV8zZZxIkzqQjdFMY= Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 19:42:21 -0400 From: Perry Coleman To: DC-Cycles X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.11 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop I am also a hater of Dunlops, and historically a fan of Metzler. However, you may find that the Michelin Commander series works well for you. They offer a good blend of mileage and wet/dry traction. Perry On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Paul Benish wrote: > So i went through my the archives for the list and I couldn't find anything > on this. Basically I need to get tires for my 2001 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 > classic and I have been looking at Metzler but then I found a set of Dunlop > 404Fs that are stupid cheap but I'm wondering if they're worth it? I saw > something on here about a shop in sterling that's pretty much right behind > where I live so i was going to check them out before I went and bought them > but right now i'm debating whether I can justify the more expensive tires > since I don't race (it's a cruiser duh) and I really don't take extremely > long trips. I guess one thing that would sway me one way or another is life > of the tire since i don't ride anywhere near as many miles per year as I > used to. > > Any comments would be appreciated > -Paul > > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1278632654; bh=9R6uxO2yN0uISn9rvroKM34w6SlUYA4Kw8oRRTrGwiI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O/wl/utqhDTsSWSTo9THdbpCp9tM8tvEjo6K90HYIxTIpxQ/Lafe7+3tZ/51HmQYjXJ6pMK8lRskrYsidK/bORrj0hKM6xuFimKfU2YFmmCSEzyxA7vxedRdLhlvH5qtWCC9+LntNYzxQnIaJbtdSIBy+WApvJf1PFMl9H1rtbs= X-YMail-OSG: Gv33EegVM1lWl4nfMU01W71EQW1HEAlVk94ZYAUaG7co9ob l7SoQDpw6t7uPNsjr.MakZsu_Y2_GCOU55floVBcxyJOgLZRoEzf9O.Lw5BC GAa_52UGacdes575jOxZ3IKV5xqckzhb2DGwC2Jy3jCGKZ6A8RTyVZyrCZ4K BGt601LOpCrmB7nNpplgXqq2aExWuRKxSDCrsiuRS7542xH0VsJAT.g3gEia swOyzC3DLEla.lCGdDYYUZOqGrmjq0FNo1T0G3GcjsztbbxevBZa9yMZJKd4 U4JEIjnWExmNcbYRZufI6imaU2wDI7WV3.32Hvm4kEdBeJnUnNQxmlNX6m4b GkDN0CKtv4hr0ztJ93j0x0sDdZCs- Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 16:44:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Schmidt To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop I agree. I've had the worst luck with Dunlop and Pirelli. All I've ever bought new has been Bridgestone. Had them stock on my first bike. Good in cold, wet, hot, you name it. I won't buy anything else. I've nearly been killed by the first two... ----- Original Message ---- From: Aki Damme <01dyna@XXXXXX> To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop FWIW, I *hate* Dunlops...the pair I had on my Harley was hard and slick as hell when wet. Sure, they last a long time but that's because they're made of concrete. I'd recommend going with either the Metzlers or Avon Venoms for heavyweight cruisers. Both have great traction and I'd much rather have traction over tire life. -aki -----Original Message----- From: dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX [mailto:dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX] On Behalf Of Paul Benish To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop So i went through my the archives for the list and I couldn't find anything on this. Basically I need to get tires for my 2001 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 classic and I have been looking at Metzler but then I found a set of Dunlop 404Fs that are stupid cheap but I'm wondering if they're worth it? I saw something on here about a shop in sterling that's pretty much right behind where I live so i was going to check them out before I went and bought them but right now i'm debating whether I can justify the more expensive tires since I don't race (it's a cruiser duh) and I really don't take extremely long trips. I guess one thing that would sway me one way or another is life of the tire since i don't ride anywhere near as many miles per year as I used to. Any comments would be appreciated -Paul ------------------------------------ "Do you know what the chain of command is here? It's the chain I go get and beat you with to show you who's in ruttin' command here." --Jayne Cobb _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Bennett Samson Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 21:12:27 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] metzler v dunlop The Metzler is OEM on my bike (a BMW R12C), that's what was on it when i bought it second-hand. This spring I decided that i needed tires and went through the same challenge trying to figure out what to put on. Doing a survey on our owners list i found 2/3 are replacing with Metzlers, which had me wondering whether I should too (mine's a cruiser too). But after much internal debate and research, I wound up buying the Pirelli 66. As you may know. Metzler and Pirelli are all one company, and the Pirelli's were around $100 cheaper for the pair. After a couple of thousand miles in various road and weather conditions, i've been very happy with them. Just something else for you to consider besides the Dunlops. Bennett _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Auth-ID: mobacc@XXXXXX From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 23:22:23 -0400 X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Meztler vs dunlop Metzler 880s have been very very good to me. The last set got over 20k miles, IIRC. Never a problem in 3 sets of moderate cruiser use on 2 bikes. Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 Green machines join the AMA. From: Paul Benish So i went through my the archives for the list and I couldn't find anything on this. Basically I need to get tires for my 2001 Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 classic and I have been looking at Metzler but then I found a set of Dunlop 404Fs that are stupid cheap but I'm wondering if they're worth it? I saw something on here about a shop in sterling that's pretty much right behind where I live so i was going to check them out before I went and bought them but right now i'm debating whether I can justify the more expensive tires since I don't race (it's a cruiser duh) and I really don't take extremely long trips. I guess one thing that would sway me one way or another is life of the tire since i don't ride anywhere near as many miles per year as I used to. Any comments would be appreciated -Paul ------------------------------------ "Do you know what the chain of command is here? It's the chain I go get and beat you with to show you who's in ruttin' command here." --Jayne Cobb _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles