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From: "Dave Yates" <dave@XXXXXX>
To: "'DC-Cycles'" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:53:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Paul biffs the Viffer

Paul fessed up:

I was on the way to Mass.

[Dave]  Problem number 1.
;-)

...

So, what I think happened is I saw myself closing fast on slowing
traffic in front on me (I was going about 60), had a panicked reaction
and grabbed the front brake. I remember thinking I needed to brake
hard, but really no harder than I've braked before a zillion times.
But obviously I overcooked it, locking the front wheel and immediately
losing control. In a nanosecond, everything went screwy.

[Dave]  That's kind of the way it works.  Don't beat yourself up mentally
about it or you'll psyche yourself out.  A little critique of yourself is
fine, but don't get carried away.

<snipped details>

Get well soon.


....
I guess since I
was walking around and not visibly bleeding buckets. The Vanson
leathers, Held gloves, Aerostich combat lite boots and Shoei X11 did
their jobs. Nothing wore through, so no road rash. My left knee hurt a
little from the fall.

[Dave]  Paul, I don't know where you're from, but I'm from Accokeek and
'round those parts we call symptoms like this a CLUE.  I rode home from my
30mph lowside in March, then had to be driven to the hospital ER in
-extreme- pain.


I got to the towing/impound lot and I paid the fees to get the bike
released. $200. Ouch. I do have a emergency breakdown/towing policy,
so I got them on the phone and within an hour, I was at the local
Honda dealer. A formality I'm sure--the bike's a total loss--but at
least all my stuff was in a safe location, Metro Honda in Metuchen.

[Dave]  Stranded in Jersey is kind of like one of life's rituals of defeat
that all of us have to endure.  For me it was the Blizzard of '93.



Time to look for another bike, I guess. I definitely want to keep
riding.

[Dave]  That's the spirit.  I didn't even have crutches, and had to bogart a
cane to walk but I was ok enough to strip the body work to assess the damage
& order parts.  ;-)

Get well soon.

Dave

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From: "David Blumgart" <mojohand@XXXXXX>
To: DC-Cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:30:18 -0500
Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Paul biffs the Viffer

You know, I really don't want to hear this.  I vastly prefer reading about the crashes where the rider clearly made an error and I can think to myself, "Well, I'd never make that mistake."

But when a skilled experienced rider crashes in circumstances I can easily see myself in?  That scares the shit out of me.



> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Wilson" <dcmcrider@XXXXXX>
> To: "DC-Cycles" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
> Subject: [dc-cycles] Paul biffs the Viffer
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:15:09 -0400
>
>
> I was on the way to Mass. for the weekend last Thursday when "it"
> happened. I had just gassed up and had a little snack on the NJ Tpke
> and may have been a little distracted that my earplugs didn't seat
> very well. I was experiencing a lot of noise. Whatever the cause my
> mind wandered and I was a little late noticing the brake lights come
> on in front of me. The pavement was dry, but there was hazy mid-day
> sunshine and a lot of glare. This was in the northbound "cars only"
> lanes near Elizabeth.
>
> So, what I think happened is I saw myself closing fast on slowing
> traffic in front on me (I was going about 60), had a panicked reaction
> and grabbed the front brake. I remember thinking I needed to brake
> hard, but really no harder than I've braked before a zillion times.
> But obviously I overcooked it, locking the front wheel and immediately
> losing control. In a nanosecond, everything went screwy. Luckily it
> was a lowside, the bike went down on its left side, I fell on my left
> knee, left elbow and left shoulder. I also hit the pavement with my
> chin, via the full face helmet of course. Honestly I don't even
> remember hitting the ground. I was back on my feet before a couple of
> motorists bailed out of their cars to help me. We got the bike off
> onto the shoulder just as the state police arrived in force with three
> cruisers. The tow truck came and scooped up what was left of the bike.
> The front end bodywork and instruments are totally smashed. Clip-ons
> bent, both levers broken. The bike must have run into the tire or
> bumper of another car as it slid--honestly I don't know--in order to
> account for the damage. I was on the ground behind it.
>
> Obviously my ride was over in an instant. State cops didn't write up a
> citation. I just told them I lowsided without getting into the
> nitty-gritty. Some other guy was pulled off on the shoulder, claiming
> I hit him. Cops weren't really buying his story that I hit him first,
> then went down. It was definitely the other way around. Dunno what's
> going to happen with that. Insurance will sort it out. I didn't speak
> with the other driver, and just gave my info to the cops. Within
> ten-fifteen minutes I was in the tow truck. I checked myself out--the
> cops never even asked if I needed medical attention. I guess since I
> was walking around and not visibly bleeding buckets. The Vanson
> leathers, Held gloves, Aerostich combat lite boots and Shoei X11 did
> their jobs. Nothing wore through, so no road rash. My left knee hurt a
> little from the fall.
>
> I got to the towing/impound lot and I paid the fees to get the bike
> released. $200. Ouch. I do have a emergency breakdown/towing policy,
> so I got them on the phone and within an hour, I was at the local
> Honda dealer. A formality I'm sure--the bike's a total loss--but at
> least all my stuff was in a safe location, Metro Honda in Metuchen.
> The guys there were super nice. I got a duffel bag and loaded up all
> my clothes, and they gave me a lift to the train station, after I
> changed out of the leathers, and gave myself the once-over in the
> mirror, just to make sure.
>
> I decided to continue by train to the weekend conference. My friend Ed
> picked me up from Amtrak up in Mass.
>
> I felt like I'd been beaten up the next day. My knee hurt like hell,
> making climbing steps difficult. My head hurt like the worst hangover
> I'd ever had, and my neck and shoulders ached, but all of that soon
> passed with a couple of hot baths, some stretching and lots of rest.
> I'm back to about 95% today. So, my 95 VFR with 97k miles is no more.
> Time to look for another bike, I guess. I definitely want to keep
> riding.
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 00:17:29 -0400
From: "Danny Motorcycle" <motorpsychol@XXXXXX>
To: "David Blumgart" <mojohand@XXXXXX>
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Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Paul biffs the Viffer

95 vfr.. 97k miles.. maybe the fork seals blew out. when was the last time
they were changed?  and by whom?  Have a look at em when you next take a
look at the bike.

Chit happens.. miles under the belt or years in the saddle unfortunately
doesn't make
us immune to chit happening. oh how i wish it did lol.

Let's just all hope that when our day comes, we can each get up intact.

headache is worth persuing.  I knew a person who died a week later after
coming
home from the hospital from a head injury. I think we are each too much of
an influence
on too many others to be selfish and try to shrug it off.  We probably owe
it to them to get
it checked out.

Maybe everythign happens for a reason... congratulations on the good crash
that you
can walk away from. Apparently that bike had to be pried away from your
hands in order for you to upgrade, and so it is written?

Glad your'e ok, better safe and sorry, get the old noggin checked out, sure
it'll be annoying
but the peace of mind for you and the loved ones will be worth it.


-Danny
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 00:18:46 -0400
From: "Danny Motorcycle" <motorpsychol@XXXXXX>
To: DC-Cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
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Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Paul biffs the Viffer

I meant safe THAN sorry .. of course
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:24:48 -0400
From: SassyDiva <sassydivaghr@XXXXXX>
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Subject: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008

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From: "Dave Yates" <dave@XXXXXX>
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:42:06 +0000
Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008


Join the Men of Deuces Wild as they welcome you to *The Black Ball*, another
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*
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[Dave]  "An all black affair" <-  Black what?  shoes?  pants?  bikes?

also, the Dueces website is --totally-- not safe for work.  While my cow orkers & cubicle neighbors are totally aclimated to the word F*ck used in many different contexts, the audio clip that plays; while catchy and cute, is a bit profane.  Just sayin'

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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:12:29 -0400
From: "Wayne Edelen" <happyscrappyheropup@XXXXXX>
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Dave Yates <dave@XXXXXX> wrote:
>
> **The Black Ball (An All Black Affair)*
>
> [Dave]  "An all black affair" <-  Black what?  shoes?  pants?  bikes?


I'm curious about this "all black affair", too.  My bike is mostly
black, as well as my Vanson jacket+pants and Sidi boots.  :-D

-- Wayne
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:20:18 -0400
From: "Aki Damme" <01dyna@XXXXXX>
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Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008

my tires are black. Does that count?  Or is it an overall percentage?  Does
a black seat
add any additional points?  My grips are black too.

This is just too complicated!

-aki


On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Wayne Edelen
<happyscrappyheropup@XXXXXX>wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Dave Yates <dave@XXXXXX> wrote:
> >
> > **The Black Ball (An All Black Affair)*
> >
> > [Dave]  "An all black affair" <-  Black what?  shoes?  pants?  bikes?
>
>
> I'm curious about this "all black affair", too.  My bike is mostly
> black, as well as my Vanson jacket+pants and Sidi boots.  :-D
>
> -- Wayne
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:43:24 -0400
From: skip <onefaller@XXXXXX>
To: B-DC cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008

and I thought that being blackballed was a bad thing.

Aki Damme wrote:
> my tires are black. Does that count?  Or is it an overall percentage?  Does
> a black seat
> add any additional points?  My grips are black too.
>
> This is just too complicated!
>
> -aki
>
>
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:52:37 -0400
From: "Aki Damme" <01dyna@XXXXXX>
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Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008

Only if you wake up in the morning and find them that way.



On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 2:43 PM, skip <onefaller@XXXXXX> wrote:

> and I thought that being blackballed was a bad thing.
>
> Aki Damme wrote:
> > my tires are black. Does that count?  Or is it an overall percentage?
>  Does
> > a black seat
> > add any additional points?  My grips are black too.
> >
> > This is just too complicated!
> >
> > -aki
> >
> >
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To: "Wayne Edelen" <happyscrappyheropup@XXXXXX>,
        "List DC Cycles" <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
From: dcmcrider@XXXXXX
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:10:08 +0000
Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008

Right now I'm black and blue in a lot of places. Does that count? :-/
------Original Message------
From: Wayne Edelen
To: List DC Cycles
Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Dave Yates <dave@XXXXXX> wrote:
>
> **The Black Ball (An All Black Affair)*
>
> [Dave]  "An all black affair" <-  Black what?  shoes?  pants?  bikes?


I'm curious about this "all black affair", too.  My bike is mostly
black, as well as my Vanson jacket+pants and Sidi boots.  :-D

-- Wayne
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Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:21:22 -0400
From: skip <onefaller@XXXXXX>
CC: List DC Cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>
Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008

Well, I, for one, would rather be blackballed than blue balled.




dcmcrider@XXXXXX wrote:
> Right now I'm black and blue in a lot of places. Does that count? :-/
> ------Original Message------
> From: Wayne Edelen
> Sender:
> To: List DC Cycles
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> Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Dave Yates <dave@XXXXXX> wrote:
>> **The Black Ball (An All Black Affair)*
>>
>> [Dave]  "An all black affair" <-  Black what?  shoes?  pants?  bikes?
>
>
> I'm curious about this "all black affair", too.  My bike is mostly
> black, as well as my Vanson jacket+pants and Sidi boots.  :-D
>
> -- Wayne
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Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:20:24 -0400
From: "Danny Motorcycle" <motorpsychol@XXXXXX>
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Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Always Bet on Black-Saturday, November 1, 2008

I don't think the black is as important as the green is on your money
that you pay to get in.I'd rather not be black or blue balled.
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