From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 08/29/08 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.16.6 X-EN-IMPSID: 81D11a00507qtNJ0000000 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:12:40 -0400 From: lisa@XXXXXX To: DC Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] FS: 2002 BMW K1200RS-ABS I am only the messenger, please contact the seller: Photos available upon request. Again, please contact the seller. FOR SALE: 2002 BMW K1200RS-ABS, $8500 OBO. Midnight Black with 1500 miles (not a misprint, fifteen hundred miles). Mint condition, (no really, in mint condition). Never been down or tipped or fallen over. OEM Factory: ABS Brakes, Hard Bags, Heated Grips and Cruise Control. Single adult owner (over 50), 100% garage kept on a battery tender. Ready to ride, needs nothing other than to be taken across the country. All services done by Bob=92s BMW including new battery and fluids within = the last year. Hi-res pictures available upon request. Bike is in AU Park/Friendship Heights, delivery available. Please feel free to contact me 9am-midnight, by phone two four zero =96 three seven two =96 three seven seven zero Thanks, David _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:37:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Machine shop? MDO Cycles, mostly HD, up near Battley's, lists Heli-Arc welding and Custom Fabrication on their business card. There is a well-appointed work area, and Ed Miller is an accommodating fellow. Extra-bike activities? Dunno. 301 948 1704. Also possibilities a few miles south of UMD on Rte. 1 NE of DC. Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 > Green machines join the AMA. Message: 7 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:07:29 -0400 From: Dave Paper Subject: [dc-cycles] Machine shop? Hola, Anyone have a recommendation for a metalwork shop in the area? . . . snip _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:54:20 -0400 From: Bob Meyer To: uluge@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Parking in Arlington VGhhbmtzIHRvIHRob3NlIHdobyByZXBsaWVkLiBHaXZlbiB3aGF0IEVuZ2luIHdyaXRlcywgYmVs b3csIEkgZG9uJ3QgZ3Vlc3MgSSdsbCBjaGFuY2UgaXQuCgpCb2IKCi0tLS0gRW5naW4gVWx1ZyA8 dWx1Z2VAeWFob28uY29tPiB3cm90ZTogCj4gCj4gSSBsaXZlIDEgYmxvY2sgZnJvbSB0aGUgY291 cnRob3VzZS4gdW5mb3J0dW5hdGVseSwgSSBnb3QgdGlja2V0ZWQgcGFya2luZyBiZXR3ZWVuIGNh cnMgaW4gdGhlIG1ldGVyZWQgc3BhY2VzIG1hbnkgdGltZXMgKHZlcnRpY2FsbHkgb3IgZGlhZ29u YWxseSkgLCBJIGFsc28gZ290IHRpY2tldGVkIGZvciByZWFyIHRpZSBiZWluZyAzLTQgaW5jaGVz IHBhc3QgdGhlIG5vIHBhcmtpbmcgc2lnbi4gSSBhbSBub3QgdmVyeSBoYXBweSB3aXRoIHRoZSBB cmxpbmd0b24gUG9saWNlIGRlcGFydG1lbnQuwqAgSSBhbHNvIGdvdCB0aWNrZXRlZCBpbiBmcm9u dCBvZiBIb2xseXdvb2QgVGFucywgcGFya2luZyBhdCB0aGUgZW5kIG9mIG1ldGVyZWQgc3BhY2Vz IHdoZXJlIHNpZGV3YWxrIG1lZXRzIHRoZSBjb3JuZXIgb2YgdGhlIHN0cmVldCAoaXQgaXMgYSB3 YXN0ZWQgdHJpYW5ndWxhciBzcGFjZSAhKQo+IAo+IAo+IAo+IC0tLSBPbiBUaHUsIDgvMjgvMDgs IEJvYiBNZXllciA8c3QxMTAwQGNveC5uZXQ+IHdyb3RlOgo+IEZyb206IEJvYiBNZXllciA8c3Qx MTAwQGNveC5uZXQ+Cj4gU3ViamVjdDogW2RjLWN5Y2xlc10gUGFya2luZyBpbiBBcmxpbmd0b24K PiBUbzogZGMtY3ljbGVzQGRjLWN5Y2xlcy5vcmcKPiBEYXRlOiBUaHVyc2RheSwgQXVndXN0IDI4 LCAyMDA4LCA2OjA0IEFNCj4gCj4gSSBqdXN0IHN0YXJ0ZWQgYSBuZXcgam9iIHRoYXQgd2lsbCBo YXZlIG1lIGluIEFybGluZ3RvbiwgbmVhciB0aGUgQ291cnRob3VzZSwgb24KPiBhIGZhaXJseSBy ZWd1bGFyIGJhc2lzLiBXaGVuIEkgd2FzIGluIENyeXN0YWwgQ2l0eSAoYWxzbyBBcmxpbmd0b24p IGJpa2VzCj4gcmVndWxhcmx5IHBhcmtlZCBmcmVlIGluIHRoZSAiWCIgc3BhY2VzIGJldHdlZW4g bWFya2VkLCBtZXRlcmVkCj4gc3BhY2VzLiBCaWtlcyBhbHNvIHBhcmtlZCBmcmVlIGF0IHRoZSBm cm9udCBhbmQgYmFjayBvZiByb3dzIG9mIHBhcmFsbGVsIHBhcmtpbmcKPiBzcGFjZXMgd2hlcmUg dGhleSBhcmUgY3V0IGludG8gdGhlIHNpZGV3YWxrLiAgVGhlIHBvbGljZSBzZWVtZWQgdG8gaGF2 ZSBubyBpc3N1ZQo+IHdpdGggdGhpcy4gSSBkaWQgaXQgZnJvbSB0aW1lIHRvIHRpbWUsIGFuZCB3 YXMgbmV2ZXIgdGlja2V0ZWQuCj4gCj4gSSBoYXZlIHlldCB0byBzZWUgYW55IGJpa2VzIHBhcmtl ZCBuZWFyIG15IG5ldyB3b3JrcGxhY2UuIERvZXMgYW55b25lIG9uIHRoZQo+IGxpc3QgcGFyayBp biB0aGlzIGFyZWE/ICBBcmUgdGhlIHBvbGljZSBpbiB0aGlzIGFyZWEgYXMgdG9sZXJhbnQgYXMg dGhlCj4gb25lJ3MgaW4gQ3J5c3RhbCBDaXR5Pwo+IAo+IFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgYW55IGV4cGVyaWVu Y2VzIHlvdSBjYW4gc2hhcmUuCj4gCj4gQm9iIE1leWVyLCAjMTE1NywgRmFpcmZheCwgVmlyZ2lu aWEKPiAnMDEgQ2FuZHkgRGFyayBSZWQgU1QxMTAwLCAidGVTVGFyb3NzYSIKPiAKPiBMaWZlIGlz IGFsbCBhYm91dCBhc3MuLi4KPiBZb3UncmUgZWl0aGVyIGNvdmVyaW5nIGl0LCBsYXVnaGluZyBp dCBvZmYsIGtpY2tpbmcgaXQsIGtpc3NpbmcgaXQsIGJ1c3RpbmcKPiBpdCwgdHJ5aW5nIHRvIGdl dCBhIHBpZWNlIG9mIGl0LCBvciBiZWhhdmluZyBsaWtlIG9uZS4KPiBfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo+IGRjLWN5Y2xlcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QK PiBkYy1jeWNsZXNAZGMtY3ljbGVzLm9yZwo+IGh0dHA6Ly9kYy1jeWNsZXMub3JnL21haWxtYW4v Y2dpLWJpbi9saXN0aW5mby9kYy1jeWNsZXMKPiBfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo+IGRjLWN5Y2xlcyBtYWlsaW5nIGxpc3QKPiBkYy1jeWNsZXNA ZGMtY3ljbGVzLm9yZwo+IGh0dHA6Ly9kYy1jeWNsZXMub3JnL21haWxtYW4vY2dpLWJpbi9saXN0 aW5mby9kYy1jeWNsZXMKCi0tCkJvYiBNZXllciwgIzExNTcsIEZhaXJmYXgsIFZpcmdpbmlhCicw MSBDYW5keSBEYXJrIFJlZCBTVDExMDAsICJ0ZVNUYXJvc3NhIgoKTGlmZSBpcyBhbGwgYWJvdXQg YXNzLi4uCllvdSdyZSBlaXRoZXIgY292ZXJpbmcgaXQsIGxhdWdoaW5nIGl0IG9mZiwga2lja2lu ZyBpdCwga2lzc2luZyBpdCwgYnVzdGluZyBpdCwgdHJ5aW5nIHRvIGdldCBhIHBpZWNlIG9mIGl0 LCBvciBiZWhhdmluZyBsaWtlIG9uZS4KX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX18KZGMtY3ljbGVzIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdApkYy1jeWNsZXNAZGMtY3ljbGVz Lm9yZwpodHRwOi8vZGMtY3ljbGVzLm9yZy9tYWlsbWFuL2NnaS1iaW4vbGlzdGluZm8vZGMtY3lj bGVz _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:02:23 -0400 From: Bob Meyer To: DC-Cycles , "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] What would you put on a motorcycle cover so people will see it at night? Check out here: http://www.reflectivelyyours.com/ Reflective cloth tape than could be sewn, reflective stick-on tape, relfective bungies. Might also check for a new cover than has reflective material already built in. On that's silver or another brighter color, rather than black, might be a good idea, too. ---- "Louis F. Caplan" wrote: > My condo board is finally letting me move my motorcycle into a different parking area (so my wife, with the two kids, can have the closer in reserved space). The one thing I'm worried about is that the space where I'll be moving the bike to is not under the floodlights, and the cover is black. I can easily picture a car driver coming in at night and pulling into the space, not seeing the bike until it's too late. I'm thinking something like reflective tape, or stickers or something, but I'm not sure how well they would actually stay on the cover (sleet, rain, hail, snow, sunlight, etc.) > > Has anyone had this type of issue and come up with other solutions, or made stickers/etc. work? > > Louis > > ======= > "Admiral" Louis Caplan Fairfax, VA > 2007 Kawasaki Nomad > Baltimore Washington Ride for Kids Task Force: http://www.firstgiving.com/louiscaplan > The Tribe MC, Vice President: http://www.thetribemc.com > Jewish Motorcyclist Alliance, Secretary: http://www.jewishbikers.com > MSF RiderCoach: http://www.msf-usa.org > > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles -- Bob Meyer, #1157, Fairfax, Virginia '01 Candy Dark Red ST1100, "teSTarossa" Life is all about ass... You're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, trying to get a piece of it, or behaving like one. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:16:53 -0400 From: "Mike B." To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Machine shop? W.S. wrote: > MDO Cycles, mostly HD, up near Battley's, lists Heli-Arc welding and Custom > Fabrication on their business card. From what I've heard from folks who know (a guy at Bethesda Iron Works) he's a very well qualified welder, not a self-taught hacker. Not sure what sort of fabrication they can do...I know they've done some bike-related fab work...there was a partially finished custom on the showroom floor when I was there a couple of years ago, and a number of the parts weren't catalog order, like the sissy bar. -- Mike B. P.S. I believe "heli-arc" is also known these days as "TIG" welding. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:18:35 -0400 From: "Mike B." To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] What would you put on a motorcycle cover so people will see it at night? Bob Meyer wrote: > Check out here: > > http://www.reflectivelyyours.com/ > > Reflective cloth tape than could be sewn, reflective stick-on tape, relfective bungies. > > Might also check for a new cover than has reflective material already built in. On that's silver or another brighter color, rather than black, might be a good idea, too. Or just set a couple of cones out like the phone and cable companies do for their trucks... ;-) -- Mike B. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-YMail-OSG: 5shwkxcVM1lQk2godt8l2SqwrXjY2_6FzkPDnl8yIdzHnJaePESMLGjlQOuzlvxhhgwwpbkklh5TpAgVRqf_RK1EXxElcyKI5ZcUs_mxdvBidsokaab6YtsYwynY_hG8xRmy5WUCQJePqzfTskk9B30- Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 05:08:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] machine shop training You may want to check out www.Smartflix.com, it's a DVD rental service for = How-to instructional videos.=A0 I has numerous instructional videos on sett= ing up and using machine tools, and metal working in general.=A0 There are = also several sites on=A0the web dedicated to mini-lathe and mini-mill opera= tion--Chinese mills sold by Harbor Freight, Grizzly, etc. =A0 Jim Caldwell = Owings, MD _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:02:03 -0400 From: "Paul Wilson" To: Aaron Cc: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] DC Perpendicular to the curb parking ticket I fought such a ticket, in Alexandria, and did so at an in-person hearing. Bottom line--while the hearing examiner agreed with all reasons I gave and she did dismiss the ticket, she still said the letter of the law applied and I should park "as parallel as possible" to the curb in the future. What that means in practice (15 degrees, 30 degrees, 45 degrees?) is anyone's guess. I would assume anything greater than 45 degrees is more perpendicular than parallel. That said, for those of you who stayed awake during geometry class, you're either parallel or you're not and that would mean 0 degrees. While it was a formal "adjudication hearing," and was recorded for posterity, it was conducted over her desk at City Hall. Paul On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Aaron wrote: > I seem to recall someone successfully fighting a parking ticket received for > not parking their moto "parallel" to the curb. Was that in DC or Virginia? > Do you have the text of the letter used in appeal? > > Thanks, > > Aaron > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:09:08 -0400 From: "Paul Wilson" To: Aaron Cc: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] DC Perpendicular to the curb parking ticket Oh, another thing. In DC, unless you have an airtight case, I wouldn't bother with mail-in. The only time that worked for me was when I received tickets on my moto for "no RPP". In that case the ticket writer missed the RPP sticker on my bike tag. I mailed in copies of my registration and a photo of the tag. Ticket dismissed. If you have a more nuanced case, go for the in-person hearing. I've done it twice. You're usually in and out in an hour. Most people were getting their tickets dismissed or the fines reduced, even those with pretty flimsy "sob stories." Paul On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Paul Wilson wrote: > I fought such a ticket, in Alexandria, and did so at an in-person > hearing. Bottom line--while the hearing examiner agreed with all > reasons I gave and she did dismiss the ticket, she still said the > letter of the law applied and I should park "as parallel as possible" > to the curb in the future. What that means in practice (15 degrees, 30 > degrees, 45 degrees?) is anyone's guess. I would assume anything > greater than 45 degrees is more perpendicular than parallel. That > said, for those of you who stayed awake during geometry class, you're > either parallel or you're not and that would mean 0 degrees. > > While it was a formal "adjudication hearing," and was recorded for > posterity, it was conducted over her desk at City Hall. > > Paul > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Aaron wrote: >> I seem to recall someone successfully fighting a parking ticket received for >> not parking their moto "parallel" to the curb. Was that in DC or Virginia? >> Do you have the text of the letter used in appeal? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Aaron >> _______________________________________________ >> dc-cycles mailing list >> dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles >> > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:13:43 -0400 From: "Aki Damme" <01dyna@XXXXXX> To: "DC cycles" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] DC Perpendicular to the curb parking ticket Actually twice in g-town we had broken meters. On the first one, it was pretty open and shut since the parking enforcement guy (who was actually a pretty nice guy), gave me his name and id # so I could reference it on any ticket should I get one (I did). Case dismissed through mail. The second one was a similar instance (broken meter) and we just mailed it in AFTER calling 311 and telling them that it was broken. We had a problem ticket # assigned from the call center and we just referenced that in our response. Case #2 dismissed through mail as well. -aki On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:09 AM, Paul Wilson wrote: > Oh, another thing. In DC, unless you have an airtight case, I wouldn't > bother with mail-in. The only time that worked for me was when I > received tickets on my moto for "no RPP". In that case the ticket > writer missed the RPP sticker on my bike tag. I mailed in copies of my > registration and a photo of the tag. Ticket dismissed. > > If you have a more nuanced case, go for the in-person hearing. I've > done it twice. You're usually in and out in an hour. Most people were > getting their tickets dismissed or the fines reduced, even those with > pretty flimsy "sob stories." > > Paul > > On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Paul Wilson wrote: > > I fought such a ticket, in Alexandria, and did so at an in-person > > hearing. Bottom line--while the hearing examiner agreed with all > > reasons I gave and she did dismiss the ticket, she still said the > > letter of the law applied and I should park "as parallel as possible" > > to the curb in the future. What that means in practice (15 degrees, 30 > > degrees, 45 degrees?) is anyone's guess. I would assume anything > > greater than 45 degrees is more perpendicular than parallel. That > > said, for those of you who stayed awake during geometry class, you're > > either parallel or you're not and that would mean 0 degrees. > > > > While it was a formal "adjudication hearing," and was recorded for > > posterity, it was conducted over her desk at City Hall. > > > > Paul > > > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Aaron wrote: > >> I seem to recall someone successfully fighting a parking ticket received > for > >> not parking their moto "parallel" to the curb. Was that in DC or > Virginia? > >> Do you have the text of the letter used in appeal? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Aaron > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dc-cycles mailing list > >> dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >> http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:31:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "pltrgyst@XXXXXX" To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] DC Perpendicular to the curb parking ticket --- On Fri, 8/29/08, Paul Wilson wrote: > While it was a formal "adjudication hearing," and > was recorded for > posterity, it was conducted over her desk at City Hall. ...or in an office building on King St. a block west of City Hall, where it's been for at least the past ten years. 8;) Alexandria's enforcement is pretty selective. They tend to ticket only in Old Town, where many of the side streets are so steeply crowned that you can't put a bike on a sidestand and have it remain upright. But up at the new Patent Office complex off Duke St., there are dozens of bikes parked perpendicular to the curb every day, and not one ticket has been issued in the past several years. -- Larry _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:32:20 -0400 From: skip To: B-DC cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Chain Tool well. I got the tool, and mine didn't come with directions either, but I'm a reasonably intelligent guy, and figured out how to use it. I ground off the rivet on a link, put the tool on it, and pressed the pin out with little to no effort. my buddy was also doing his chain, so the process was repeated, but as soon as we started pressing the pin, the tool broke. A closer inspection of the pin that broke indicated that it was *seriously* inferior metal. since we could cut the chain, and still be able to use the riveting part of the tool, we did that. as we tried to rivet, the tool spread/flexed to the point that it failed. I bent the tool back into shape as best as I could, and we tried again. Fail. I got home 6 this morning, with the bike still up on jackstands. I can not recommend this tool. skip wrote: > Thanks for the tip! > > I've got one on the way... if it's not here by the 28th, I'll be taking > up the offer of a lister to borrow theirs. > > blue skies! > > --skip > > Kevin Wierschke wrote: >> skip wrote: >>> Hey! >>> >>> Does anyone have a chain breaker and riveter that they'd be willing to >>> loan out? >>> >>> --skip >>> _______________________________________________ >>> dc-cycles mailing list >>> dc-cycles@XXXXXX >>> http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles >>> >>> >> Skip- >> I used this one for $16. I heard about it on a bike forum. Some folks >> said they used it and it worked well. I figured for $16 it was worth a >> try. It worked well and was of good quality, but lacked directions. >> >> http://www.mikesxs.net/mikesxs-tools.php?category_id=7.1#35-0081 >> >> Kevin >> _______________________________________________ >> dc-cycles mailing list >> dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles >> >> > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:49:13 -0400 From: "Trevor Angel" To: pltrgyst@XXXXXX Cc: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] DC Perpendicular to the curb parking ticket I actually had occasion to park near Dupont yesterday for the first time since I read the discussion about parallel parking. I was on my '08 KLR and the sidestand is crap - the bike barely leans over far enough on a flat surface, no way it will stay upright if the ground is sloping away to the right. The only possible way I could parallel park is to do it facing the wrong direction. That's probably illegal too, or if not you have to drive illegally to get to that position. So I guess I'm going to continue parking perpendicular but with the expectation of having to fight a ticket one of these days... Trevor _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:26:40 -0400 From: "Rob Keiser" To: skip X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Cc: B-DC cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Chain Tool I've broken two chain breakers over the years and have just ended up using a dremel and cut wheel or a carbide tipped hacksaw. Neither one as tidy, but still effective. Have both if you're still in a bind. At least the mini chain press is still intact, but I'll still back it up with a couple bb's and a good squeeze of some vice-grips. YMMV Rob '98 VFR800 _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:28:48 -0600 From: Brian Roach To: B-DC cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Chain Tool Exactly. Never bother trying to press a chain apart if you have pneumatic tools. Use a carbon cutting wheel to take off the tops of two rivets, then just pop the side plate off with a large flat-blade screwdriver or chisel. And while not tidy, I happen to like the shower of sparks :) And ... yup, vise grips and a couple ball bearings will always pull you out of a pinch if need be. A good chain press is like $150 and will last for years (more than likely you could hand it down to your kids), BTW. - Roach Rob Keiser wrote: > I've broken two chain breakers over the years and have just ended up using a > dremel and cut wheel or a carbide tipped hacksaw. > > Neither one as tidy, but still effective. Have both if you're still in a > bind. > > At least the mini chain press is still intact, but I'll still back it up > with a couple bb's and a good squeeze of some vice-grips. > > YMMV > > Rob > '98 VFR800 > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1787864135 To: "Brian Roach" , dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX, "List DC Cycles" From: dcmcrider@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:37:59 +0000 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Chain Tool Agreed. It's not a chain you're going to re-use, so why be dainty. Grind off the rivet ends and be done with it. I've got the Motion Pro chain press that is truly a lifetime tool. The only time you would those pin extractors that come with the tool would be on a cam chain or some such. P Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Brian Roach Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:28:48 To: B-DC cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Chain Tool Exactly. Never bother trying to press a chain apart if you have pneumatic tools. Use a carbon cutting wheel to take off the tops of two rivets, then just pop the side plate off with a large flat-blade screwdriver or chisel. And while not tidy, I happen to like the shower of sparks :) And ... yup, vise grips and a couple ball bearings will always pull you out of a pinch if need be. A good chain press is like $150 and will last for years (more than likely you could hand it down to your kids), BTW. - Roach Rob Keiser wrote: > I've broken two chain breakers over the years and have just ended up using a > dremel and cut wheel or a carbide tipped hacksaw. > > Neither one as tidy, but still effective. Have both if you're still in a > bind. > > At least the mini chain press is still intact, but I'll still back it up > with a couple bb's and a good squeeze of some vice-grips. > > YMMV > > Rob > '98 VFR800 > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles