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(_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:14:43 -0400 From: "Matthew Bafford" To: "DC cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Thoughts on buying back an economic total loss from the insurance? I'm wondering what peoples' thoughts are on buying back a bike that's been totaled by the insurance company. It's all cosmetic stuff, but it exceeds the costs the insurance company is willing to pay out based on the value of the bike. Financially, I think it works out best for me to keep the bike and do the repairs myself (but I need to re-evaluate that). I'm just worried about possible side effects such as problems with: registering, titling, insuring, or selling the bike in the future, especially if I move states. Any experience? --Matthew _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Oqzwunu-dF8A:10 a=nB6VsddIcMUA:10 a=hR6SKshNAAAA:8 a=ObWk5X_oPe3fRkHlC40A:9 a=gnVkHKKjK9r3kTrDjdIA:7 a=l0exWnh4qD_7vswpoffSw9TOfcIA:4 a=K0-xik_jxeAA:10 a=7J08hxjrZSIA:10 a=ziFrdkHw70AA:10 From: "Elric42ZRX" To: "'Matthew Bafford'" , "'DC cycles'" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:23:25 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Thoughts on buying back an economic total loss from the insurance? Do yourself a favor; do not buy the bike back and fix it. It is VERY likely that the adjuster, once they noticed the extensive cosmetic damage, did not even both to look at the frame or mechanical. Meaning that you would buy the bike back only to discover the frame is tweaked and you either have an unrideable/repairable bike or one that needs even more work than just "cosmetics' making it a losing venture to repair. Now, if you have access to frame gauges and such, and sufficient ability (either technical or financial) to undertake frame straightening, go for it. Otherwise, if you are like me and can only turn a few wrenches, let the bike go. YMMV. Elric42 -----Original Message----- From: dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX [mailto:dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX] On Behalf Of Matthew Bafford To: DC cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Thoughts on buying back an economic total loss from the insurance? I'm wondering what peoples' thoughts are on buying back a bike that's been totaled by the insurance company. It's all cosmetic stuff, but it exceeds the costs the insurance company is willing to pay out based on the value of the bike. Financially, I think it works out best for me to keep the bike and do the repairs myself (but I need to re-evaluate that). I'm just worried about possible side effects such as problems with: registering, titling, insuring, or selling the bike in the future, especially if I move states. Any experience? --Matthew _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:33:44 -0400 From: "Matthew Bafford" To: Elric42ZRX Cc: DC cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Thoughts on buying back an economic total loss from the insurance? The frame seems to be fine based on riding it back about 250 miles (with a decent amount of twisties). Damage includes what you'd expect on a low speed SV650 single-side slide: * broken tach and surrounding casings * scratched up fork (minor, but it went on the estimate) * slightly dented tank (might, actually, have been dented prior) * broken clutch lever * broken shift pedal * scratched fairings * scuffed frame (I'm not even sure if that's paintable) * broken chain guard (boot got caught) * frame sliders and handle bar weights * mirror and turn signal I'll be honest, I am slightly apprehensive about the unknown mechanical damage due to hitting false neutrals more times than usual on the way back, but I'm not sure if that's due to the mangled shift lever or an actual mechanical problem. So yeah, that worries me. It also quit on me once immediately after getting it movable, but then after lifting the gas tank and checking for the usuals (spark, vacuum to petcock, fuel flow TO carbs) and replacing the hoses and tank it ran fine for the remainder. Thanks for the input. I probably should just accept my losses. I'm sure others have been through this thought process before... --Matthew On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Elric42ZRX wrote: > Do yourself a favor; do not buy the bike back and fix it. It is VERY likely > that the adjuster, once they noticed the extensive cosmetic damage, did not > even both to look at the frame or mechanical. Meaning that you would buy the > bike back only to discover the frame is tweaked and you either have an > unrideable/repairable bike or one that needs even more work than just > "cosmetics' making it a losing venture to repair. > > Now, if you have access to frame gauges and such, and sufficient ability > (either technical or financial) to undertake frame straightening, go for it. > Otherwise, if you are like me and can only turn a few wrenches, let the bike > go. > > YMMV. > > Elric42 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX [mailto:dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX] > On Behalf Of Matthew Bafford > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:15 AM > To: DC cycles > Subject: [dc-cycles] Thoughts on buying back an economic total loss from the > insurance? > > I'm wondering what peoples' thoughts are on buying back a bike that's > been totaled by the insurance company. It's all cosmetic stuff, but > it exceeds the costs the insurance company is willing to pay out based > on the value of the bike. > > Financially, I think it works out best for me to keep the bike and do > the repairs myself (but I need to re-evaluate that). I'm just worried > about possible side effects such as problems with: registering, > titling, insuring, or selling the bike in the future, especially if I > move states. > > Any experience? > > --Matthew > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Chris Norloff" To: "'DC cycles'" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:16:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Thoughts on buying back an economic total loss fromthe insurance? Yes, the mechanicals are a question, for sure. But it might be worth your while if you like working on the bike. When my daughter totaled a car (just sheet metal damage) we "bought" it back from the insurance company. They just deducted the salvage value from the claim check and sent us the difference. We didn't do any title processing with the DMV, though I'd expect the title to say salvage now. We also can't put collision insurance or fire/theft/vandalism insurance on the car now, at least through the insurance company who already paid us for all that. Chris -----Original Message----- From: dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX [mailto:dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX] On Behalf Of Matthew Bafford To: Elric42ZRX Cc: DC cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Thoughts on buying back an economic total loss fromthe insurance? The frame seems to be fine based on riding it back about 250 miles (with a decent amount of twisties). Damage includes what you'd expect on a low speed SV650 single-side slide: * broken tach and surrounding casings * scratched up fork (minor, but it went on the estimate) * slightly dented tank (might, actually, have been dented prior) * broken clutch lever * broken shift pedal * scratched fairings * scuffed frame (I'm not even sure if that's paintable) * broken chain guard (boot got caught) * frame sliders and handle bar weights * mirror and turn signal I'll be honest, I am slightly apprehensive about the unknown mechanical damage due to hitting false neutrals more times than usual on the way back, but I'm not sure if that's due to the mangled shift lever or an actual mechanical problem. So yeah, that worries me. It also quit on me once immediately after getting it movable, but then after lifting the gas tank and checking for the usuals (spark, vacuum to petcock, fuel flow TO carbs) and replacing the hoses and tank it ran fine for the remainder. Thanks for the input. I probably should just accept my losses. I'm sure others have been through this thought process before... --Matthew On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Elric42ZRX wrote: > Do yourself a favor; do not buy the bike back and fix it. It is VERY > likely that the adjuster, once they noticed the extensive cosmetic > damage, did not even both to look at the frame or mechanical. Meaning > that you would buy the bike back only to discover the frame is tweaked > and you either have an unrideable/repairable bike or one that needs > even more work than just "cosmetics' making it a losing venture to repair. > > Now, if you have access to frame gauges and such, and sufficient > ability (either technical or financial) to undertake frame straightening, go for it. > Otherwise, if you are like me and can only turn a few wrenches, let > the bike go. > > YMMV. > > Elric42 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX > [mailto:dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX] > On Behalf Of Matthew Bafford > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 10:15 AM > To: DC cycles > Subject: [dc-cycles] Thoughts on buying back an economic total loss > from the insurance? > > I'm wondering what peoples' thoughts are on buying back a bike that's > been totaled by the insurance company. It's all cosmetic stuff, but > it exceeds the costs the insurance company is willing to pay out based > on the value of the bike. > > Financially, I think it works out best for me to keep the bike and do > the repairs myself (but I need to re-evaluate that). I'm just worried > about possible side effects such as problems with: registering, > titling, insuring, or selling the bike in the future, especially if I > move states. > > Any experience? > > --Matthew > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Julian Halton To: DC-Cycles Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:14:00 -0400 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [dc-cycles] Helmet involved in a slide etiquette I have a Shoei X-II helmet that was involved in a lowside coming out of Turn 1 Summit Point in 05. Is it ethical to put it up for sale as a helmet that has made contact with asphalt in a low side and clearly state that the buyer is responsible for verifying the integrity of the helmet with Shoei or at this point is the helmet artwork or a target? _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles