From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 08/06/08 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:23:14 -0400 From: "Euan Fisk" To: "Wayne Edelen" Cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months This sounds about perfect to me. And yes, don't forget the mousetraps/taping airbox entrances part if the bike is anywhere 'nature' may find its way in. You think cleaning gunk out of a carb is bad, try cleaning rodent nesting material and 'pinkies' out ... On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Wayne Edelen wrote: > My opinion... > > - put the bike on race stands > - tires at normal pressures > - full tank of gas w/stabil > - run the bike to get the stabil in the rail > - top off tank again, if necessary > - fresh oil/filter - cheapie is fine, since you'll change it when you > resurrect the machine > - pull the plugs, little oil in each cylinder, replace plugs > - lube the chain > - cleaned, dried and waxed bike - every surface > - remove the battery and put it on a tender > - put mousetraps and/or poison around the bike > - use blue painter's tape and cover any openings on the bike - ram > air, exhaust, etc - to avoid critters/bugs making homes in there > - cover the bike > > You could also look into one of those inflatable, positive air > pressure MC garages. They'll keep out moisture, bugs and rodents. > > -- Wayne > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:33:19 +0800 From: Carl Parker To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient Dave disseminated: I realize though that this isn't the free for all that is some of the European roads, but a great deal of this is our own selfish "me first" attitude and passive aggressive "you're not passing me, I'm going fast enough" attitudes. Culturally, we don't like people passing us, or exploiting their vehicle's advantages- particularly when we're not moving particularly quickly. [CrazyCarl] +1 on this. It's not just Europe that passes on any space available but much of the developing world as well (read as: a vast majority of the world's motorcyclists). To be fair, their bikes and scoots do tend to be smaller (including the riders!) and take up less lane. Any liter plus bike is a large vehicle by any standard if you're coming off a 70-150cc machine. When you're really filtering through traffic, every little inch counts and around town, smaller bikes rule the roost. Less fuel, moves more people and can park just about anywhere. I'm not condoning reckless riding behavior but do think people could lighten up a bit all around the board - from cops to regular ol' citizens. I seriously hope the future holds more two or three wheeled transportation for the good folks of North America because I really don't think anyone NEEDS a Ford Excursion or H2 to move one person to work or even two people to a soccer game. The changes can already be seen as more and more scooters and bikes pop up on the roads every year. All we need for this to take off are some government incentives (special parking?) and more support for rider/driver education (more MSF classes please!!!). If one wanted to lobby for this...where would they start? AMA? Hmmm... CrazyCarl (in China) (not the sagacious "Taco Taco" Carl in MD) _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Dave Yates" To: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:54:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient Whimsical Carl wondered: Dave disseminated: I realize though that this isn't the free for all that is some of the European roads, but a great deal of this is our own selfish "me first" attitude and passive aggressive "you're not passing me, I'm going fast enough" attitudes. Culturally, we don't like people passing us, or exploiting their vehicle's advantages- particularly when we're not moving particularly quickly. ... I'm not condoning reckless riding behavior but do think people could lighten up a bit all around the board ... The changes can already be seen as more and more scooters and bikes pop up on the roads every year. All we need for this to take off are some government incentives (special parking?) and more support for rider/driver education (more MSF classes please!!!). If one wanted to lobby for this...where would they start? AMA? [Dave] It's all local. I lobbied my employer's garage folks for dedicated bike parking. I've got a follow up this week. Fingers crossed. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Julian Halton To: "'Wayne Edelen'" , DC-Cycles Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:19:32 -0400 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months Basically, I am looking at a job that takes me away from here for six months. I am considering selling my pristine 2007 charcoal gray R1 because I don't ride it as often as I should and I need to cut costs. My 2006 R6 works for me as my commuter, track bike, distance bike...nothing like Jonathan's but have made it to Ohio and Canada. I have the illogical feeling that bikes have personalities and I feel that my R6 gets grumpy when I go away for two weeks to dive. If I sell both I have no bikes....If I keep one and it sits it might get a little lonely. OR to someone I know and trust I could make the following arrangement: Here is my R6 Please ride at least once a week Please keep garaged, oiled and cleaned If you have to service it service it A week before I get back replace tires with new ones and make sure the bike is up to track standard If you lay it down get it back to the condition it was in Enjoy -----Original Message----- From: dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX [mailto:dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX] On Behalf Of Wayne Edelen To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:14 PM, smthng else wrote: > > Wash the bike thoroughly. Add some Seafoam to a tank of gas, run it > about halfway out (which will also make sure everything is dry after > washing), drain the rest. Pull the starter relay and battery, dump a > teaspoon of oil in the cylinders and put the best oil and filter you > can find in and she should be good. Just remember to "unprep" it and > repeat the Seafoam and gas treatment with fresh stuff when you get > back (which is why you should pull the starter relay - to make SURE > you don't try to crank it until you get the oil back out of the > cylinders). Do a final oil and filter change before taking her out > again after the return. Why would you drain the tank? My opinion... - put the bike on race stands - tires at normal pressures - full tank of gas w/stabil - run the bike to get the stabil in the rail - top off tank again, if necessary - fresh oil/filter - cheapie is fine, since you'll change it when you resurrect the machine - pull the plugs, little oil in each cylinder, replace plugs - lube the chain - cleaned, dried and waxed bike - every surface - remove the battery and put it on a tender - put mousetraps and/or poison around the bike - use blue painter's tape and cover any openings on the bike - ram air, exhaust, etc - to avoid critters/bugs making homes in there - cover the bike You could also look into one of those inflatable, positive air pressure MC garages. They'll keep out moisture, bugs and rodents. -- Wayne _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 08:53:18 -0400 From: "Wayne Edelen" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Julian Halton wrote: > If I sell both I have no bikes....If I keep one and it sits it might get a little lonely. OR to someone I know and trust I could make the following arrangement: > > Here is my R6 > Please ride at least once a week > Please keep garaged, oiled and cleaned > If you have to service it service it > A week before I get back replace tires with new ones and make sure the bike is up to track standard > If you lay it down get it back to the condition it was in > Enjoy While that sounds good, it could end badly. Service issues, wreck, engine trouble, etc. What about tags/insurance? Lots of hassle and liability. I'd be happy to take care of your baby while you're gone ;-) but I think storage is a better solution. Your bike is kind of like a dog, no sense of the passage of time while you're gone. Don't sweat it. :-) One of my Labs, Moose, usually keeps my bike company while I'm gone. http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/Uber55/busa/noplate.jpg ;-) -- Wayne _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:09:29 -0400 From: "Dr. Corona" To: DC-Cycles X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months I question the sanity of leaving any vehicle near that beast for fear it would be eaten! -Norris > > While that sounds good, it could end badly. Service issues, wreck, > engine trouble, etc. What about tags/insurance? Lots of hassle and > liability. > > I'd be happy to take care of your baby while you're gone ;-) but I > think storage is a better solution. Your bike is kind of like a dog, > no sense of the passage of time while you're gone. Don't sweat it. > :-) One of my Labs, Moose, usually keeps my bike company while I'm > gone. > > http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/Uber55/busa/noplate.jpg > > ;-) > > -- Wayne > > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Julian Halton To: "'Dr. Corona'" , DC-Cycles Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:18:55 -0400 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months I would pull the tags and insurance probably and really have one or two people in mind that I would consider this with. I just found that the bikes I see in the area that people let sit tend to be rusty and ill-kept. It is the thought of the bike decaying slowly that motivated this whole thread. In the past it would have been a no brainer....sell bike and arrange for brand new 09 R6 in black to be ready to go when I return. I have yet to ride the Honda CBR600 or 1000 but my love of the R6 is undiminished. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'DC-Cycles'" Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:21:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months Norris scoffed: I question the sanity of leaving any vehicle near that beast for fear it would be eaten! -Norris > > http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/Uber55/busa/noplate.jpg > [Dave] One look at the front and the dog's running full speed the other way ;-P _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=E0jrmqU18UYA:10 a=yavVwJVbjA4A:10 a=9owOnXT9HWofAiXnmw8A:9 a=hH01VX-9_qRgIoLmUosA:7 a=Oy4_GgJ7To9-SGMRzEPNce3DGRoA:4 a=oH_WKSxD8ioA:10 From: penguinbiker@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (B-DC cycles) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:21:51 +0000 X-Authenticated-Sender: cGVuZ3VpbmJpa2VyQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months My $.02 If you have carbs, drain em. If you have a fuel tank _fill_ it, ram up to the top. A full tank has no oxygen/air in it and therefore cannot rust also with no O2 to burn there is _less_ danger of explosion or fire. In addition the larger the volume the slower the fuel degrades. A center stand or stand, to prevent the bike from falling over just in case a tire goes flat. Go in peace young man, your steed will await your return. -- John Walters 99 Honda St1100 (Over 100,000 mi.) 83 BMW R80RT (Over 200,000 mi.) 76 Honda CR250M _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:25:24 -0400 From: "Danny Motorcycle" To: "Julian Halton" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months I'd recommend selling the R1 while it's still warm... based on your post it seems only a matter of time and it's only going to depreciate. If it gets too cold you may be better off selling it the start of next riding season. The r6, 6 months is NOTHING. If you still love it, no point in taking a 1st owner depreciation hit again on an 09. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:28:08 -0400 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Wayne Edelen" Cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months I think you guys are getting a little carried away. It's a motor vehicle, not the space shuttle. In any event, which "six months" are we talking about? Oct-Mar? May-Nov? Yes, my VFR has a lot of wear, dings and scratches and other "character marks," but that's because it's been ridden virtually non-stop since the day I got it. No doubt it would be in vastly better condition if it "sat" a lot more! On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Wayne Edelen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 8:19 AM, Julian Halton > wrote: >> If I sell both I have no bikes....If I keep one and it sits it might get a little lonely. OR to someone I know and trust I could make the following arrangement: >> >> Here is my R6 >> Please ride at least once a week >> Please keep garaged, oiled and cleaned >> If you have to service it service it >> A week before I get back replace tires with new ones and make sure the bike is up to track standard >> If you lay it down get it back to the condition it was in >> Enjoy > > > While that sounds good, it could end badly. Service issues, wreck, > engine trouble, etc. What about tags/insurance? Lots of hassle and > liability. > > I'd be happy to take care of your baby while you're gone ;-) but I > think storage is a better solution. Your bike is kind of like a dog, > no sense of the passage of time while you're gone. Don't sweat it. > :-) One of my Labs, Moose, usually keeps my bike company while I'm > gone. > > http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r228/Uber55/busa/noplate.jpg > > ;-) > > -- Wayne > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 713373249 To: "matthew patton" , dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX, "DC-Cycles" From: tdeboeser@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 15:29:20 +0000 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] OT: need recommendation for GOOD non-dealer automechanic in Manassas area I use eddie's in stafford ( rout 630 west, about 1 1/2 miles ). Its been there forever, desent guy's and they don't have issues with installing your parts. They'll go for after market parts, but you should tell 'em to. Otherwise they'll look to the oem parts. Tom de ------Original Message------ From: matthew patton To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] OT: need recommendation for GOOD non-dealer automechanic in Manassas area Springfield or Stafford too is fine. I need somebody who has a rep for GOOD work and doesn't jerk me around about not installing customer sourced parts and doesn't quote me factory prices for parts instead of looking at aftermarket. TIA _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: rich hall To: DC-Cycles Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 12:03:22 -0400 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months Insurance always asks if you've been insured for the last 6 months. Talk to your agent.> From: julianhalton@XXXXXX> To: drcorona@XXXXXX; DC-Cycles@XXXXXX> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 09:18:55 -0400> Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months> > > > I would pull the tags and insurance probably and really have one or two people in mind that I would consider this with. I just found that the bikes I see in the area that people let sit tend to be rusty and ill-kept. It is the thought of the bike decaying slowly that motivated this whole thread.> In the past it would have been a no brainer....sell bike and arrange for brand new 09 R6 in black to be ready to go when I return.> I have yet to ride the Honda CBR600 or 1000 but my love of the R6 is undiminished.> _______________________________________________> dc-cycles mailing list> dc-cycles@XXXXXX> http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _________________________________________________________________ Get Windows Live and get whatever you need, wherever you are. Start here. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home_082008 _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:08:15 -0400 From: "Carl Custer" To: DCCycles X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [dc-cycles] Fwd: VJMC ride update FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Re-MX, Inc Date: Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 3:04 PM Subject: VJMC ride update To: dan@XXXXXX Cc: Tim McDowell I put a few pictures and the route information on line today. It has been a busy month since the ride so I was unable to get the pictures posted until now. I hope you all have had time to ride this summer and I look forward to seeing you at our next ride in the fall. http://www.cyclevaultclub.com Regards, Dan Dan & Tim Cycle Vault Club Elkridge, MD (410) 799-3588 _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:42:52 -0400 From: Bob Meyer To: Matthew Bafford , Paul Wilson Cc: Dave Yates , DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient I haven't ridden in Wyoming in a great many years, but in the last couple of years I've ridden in Colorado behind cagers who wouldn't move over even though driving at the speed limit or below. Even when there were specific turn outs in which to do so. The East has no monopoly on rude or inconsiderate drivers. ---- Paul Wilson wrote: > Yep, that was my experience. The Wyoming guy in the beater pickup > wants to cruise at 60, I'd like to go 80. We can easily accommodate > each other on a two-lane road without any Sturm und Drang. > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Matthew Bafford > wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Paul Wilson wrote: > >> enforcers. On the wide-open roads of Wyoming, I've had drivers ooze > >> onto the shoulder so I could overtake in the same lane. Remarkably > >> this did not seem to threaten their manhood in the slightest, as > >> evidenced by a friendly wave. > > > > That surprised me for a while until I adapted when I was driving in > > Finland. Drivers there will eagerly pull onto the shoulder (not > > slowing down) if you are approaching. That, combined with the > > abundance of artwork on the side of motorways, was refreshing. > > > > If the Wyoming is the same way, that just reinforces my desire to > > experience more of the more western parts of this country. > > > > --Matthew > > > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles -- Bob Meyer, #1157, Fairfax, Virginia '01 Candy Dark Red ST1100, "teSTarossa" Life is all about ass... You're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, trying to get a piece of it, or behaving like one. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:53:59 -0400 From: Bob Meyer To: Aki Damme <01dyna@XXXXXX>, Paul Wilson Cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months I'm not clear if the bike has already sat, or or you're planning to put it up for 6 months. If the latter, no big deal. Ideally, run throught the gas in the thank, then add Stabil and fresh gas to fill the tank. The ride it enough to get the fresh gas into the floats (if it has carbs), and top up the tank. Drain the old oil, and replace the filter and top up with fresh oil. Lube the chain. If it will be stored in a damp place, wipe all exposed metal with WD-40 to prevent rust. (If you plan to store it outdoors, don't. Find some indoor storage place to keep it.) If you're anal, remove the plugs, spray WD-40 into the combustion chambers, and replace the plugs. Six months isn't a big deal if you prepare properly. ---- Paul Wilson wrote: > Did your bike get a note from your doctor? > > Really, to answer the question, six months is no big deal. An even > more trouble-free option is to put it on a battery tender and give the > keys to a buddy with strict instructions that the bike be ridden once > every two weeks. :) > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Aki Damme <01dyna@XXXXXX> wrote: > > Sure. My Harley sat for *at least* that long and it fired right up. I just > > made sure it's got Stabil in the tank and keep > > a Battery Tender on it. > > > > -aki > > (who had a valid medical reason for it sitting) > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Julian Halton > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Could a bike sit for six months without being ridden without rust or decay > >> or is this an incredible insult to a machine designed to be revved to 16,000 > >> rpms and cranked over on the track and should be placed up for sale? > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dc-cycles mailing list > >> dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >> http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > dc-cycles mailing list > > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > > > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles -- Bob Meyer, #1157, Fairfax, Virginia '01 Candy Dark Red ST1100, "teSTarossa" Life is all about ass... You're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, trying to get a piece of it, or behaving like one. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 17:56:47 -0400 From: Bob Meyer To: Wayne Edelen , DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months I strongly disagree with draining the tank. That will allow water vapor in the tank, which leads to rust. Use Stabil, and fill the tank to the brim. ---- Wayne Edelen wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:14 PM, smthng else wrote: > > > > Wash the bike thoroughly. Add some Seafoam to a tank of gas, run it > > about halfway out (which will also make sure everything is dry after > > washing), drain the rest. Pull the starter relay and battery, dump a > > teaspoon of oil in the cylinders and put the best oil and filter you > > can find in and she should be good. Just remember to "unprep" it and > > repeat the Seafoam and gas treatment with fresh stuff when you get > > back (which is why you should pull the starter relay - to make SURE > > you don't try to crank it until you get the oil back out of the > > cylinders). Do a final oil and filter change before taking her out > > again after the return. > > > Why would you drain the tank? > > My opinion... > > - put the bike on race stands > - tires at normal pressures > - full tank of gas w/stabil > - run the bike to get the stabil in the rail > - top off tank again, if necessary > - fresh oil/filter - cheapie is fine, since you'll change it when you > resurrect the machine > - pull the plugs, little oil in each cylinder, replace plugs > - lube the chain > - cleaned, dried and waxed bike - every surface > - remove the battery and put it on a tender > - put mousetraps and/or poison around the bike > - use blue painter's tape and cover any openings on the bike - ram > air, exhaust, etc - to avoid critters/bugs making homes in there > - cover the bike > > You could also look into one of those inflatable, positive air > pressure MC garages. They'll keep out moisture, bugs and rodents. > > -- Wayne > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles -- Bob Meyer, #1157, Fairfax, Virginia '01 Candy Dark Red ST1100, "teSTarossa" Life is all about ass... You're either covering it, laughing it off, kicking it, kissing it, busting it, trying to get a piece of it, or behaving like one. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles