From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 08/05/08 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 16:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Thompson To: DC cycles X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [dc-cycles] A reputable place to purchase pilot jets? ...And not the kind that fly ;-) Anyone have any luck in dealing with anyone either local or online who can = get pilot jets?=A0 I ordered a set from an online company about 2 weeks ago= , and they will not return my calls or emails to give me an update.=A0 I've= not been billed for anything, but I rather not do business where the custo= mer service is seriously=A0lacking. The pilot jets I need are=A0for a set o= f Keihin CVK carbs. Thanks, Nick = _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 21:14:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Bike Day Julian Halton julianhalton@XXXXXX observed . . .snip the circle just after the Memorial bridge on the Virginia side...I was watching a full leathered rider on a GSX-R come screaming in from the DC side and then drag knee for five laps of the traffic circle before departing for parts unknown. ------ Sooooooo - where are the pics? (I inhabit this geography continually on bike, bicy, and foot and see all kinds of people, animals, and machines - tourbuses, ducks, ducktourbuses, etc., etc.: This would have been a marvelous first.) Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 > Next time we 810 the circle for kicks Green machines join the AMA. ------ _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Julian Halton To: "'W.S.'" , DC-Cycles Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:56:16 -0400 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Bike Day I was running at the time but I have seen the same rider do this on weekends....circa 5 or 6 PM Sundays. GXR - leathers...in my humble opinion just a tad aggressive. I will run with my camera next time! Julian Halton Group Logic julian@XXXXXX 703-778-8405 -----Original Message----- From: dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX [mailto:dc-cycles-bounces@XXXXXX] On Behalf Of W.S. To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Bike Day Julian Halton julianhalton@XXXXXX observed . . .snip the circle just after the Memorial bridge on the Virginia side...I was watching a full leathered rider on a GSX-R come screaming in from the DC side and then drag knee for five laps of the traffic circle before departing for parts unknown. ------ Sooooooo - where are the pics? (I inhabit this geography continually on bike, bicy, and foot and see all kinds of people, animals, and machines - tourbuses, ducks, ducktourbuses, etc., etc.: This would have been a marvelous first.) Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 > Next time we 810 the circle for kicks Green machines join the AMA. ------ _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:18:33 -0400 From: Mike Troutman To: DCCycles X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Subject: [dc-cycles] impatient A few weeks ago I was on PW Parkway passing a truck when three bikes came down the dotted line between us to pass (one in previously identified mohawk helmet). They couldn't wait <30 seconds to pass legally, and I easily could have taken them all out if I hadn't seen them. A cop was a few car lengths back, and when I talked to him at the next light he said he would have pulled them over, but he was on his way to a DUI. ?. Bypassing a possible DUI for three reckless? Wow. Yesterday I am in the normal backup on Braddock before Pleasant Valley and another genius on two wheels decides to pass the backup in the oncoming traffic lane for about .5 mile, dodging into the lane when traffic approached. I think the public can forgive a safe pass on a double yellow, but crap like this makes us all look bad. When a motorcyclist in a cage gets pissed off at the behavior, it is time for a change. WTF is wrong with people? -- ___________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:49:02 -0400 From: "Wayne Edelen" To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Mike Troutman wrote: > A few weeks ago I was on PW Parkway passing a truck when three bikes > came down the dotted line between us to pass (one in previously > identified mohawk helmet). They couldn't wait <30 seconds to pass > legally, and I easily could have taken them all out if I hadn't seen > them. A cop was a few car lengths back, and when I talked to him at the > next light he said he would have pulled them over, but he was on his way > to a DUI. ?. Bypassing a possible DUI for three reckless? Wow. If the riders were willing to split on the line, the cop may have thought the riders would leave him sitting in traffic if he lit them up. > I think the public can forgive a safe pass on a double yellow, but crap > like this makes us all look bad. When a motorcyclist in a cage gets > pissed off at the behavior, it is time for a change. WTF is wrong with > people? I'll take a couple of bikers splitting lanes over the idiots driving 2-3 ton vehicles paying no attention to the road. I've passed plenty of people on double yellows in cars and bikes. I've encountered indifference, acceptance, anger and even attempts to run me off the road. The "public" doesn't give 2 shits about you, me or the guy in the car behind them. The "public" cares about the "public" and the perception that if you get in front of them it's slowing them down. Fuck me, fuck you, fuck everyone else on the road. I don't think there's enough momentum to change the behavior of most road users. There's plenty of evidence that driving and cell phones are nearly (or equally) as dangerous as drinking and driving, but look at the lack of laws and enforcement for phone and pda use in cars. I see cops witness traffic infractions on a regular basis with absolutely no action on their part. The cops I see on the road are about as observant and indifferent as the general public. :-\ -- Wayne _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Dave Yates" To: "DCCycles" X-Forwarded-For: [(null)] Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:49:47 +0000 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient Troutman observed: A few weeks ago I was on PW Parkway passing a truck when three bikes came down the dotted line between us to pass (one in previously identified mohawk helmet). They couldn't wait <30 seconds to pass legally, and I easily could have taken them all out if I hadn't seen them. A cop was a few car lengths back, and when I talked to him at the next light he said he would have pulled them over, but he was on his way to a DUI. ?. Bypassing a possible DUI for three reckless? Wow. Yesterday I am in the normal backup on Braddock before Pleasant Valley and another genius on two wheels decides to pass the backup in the oncoming traffic lane for about .5 mile, dodging into the lane when traffic approached. I think the public can forgive a safe pass on a double yellow, but crap like this makes us all look bad. When a motorcyclist in a cage gets pissed off at the behavior, it is time for a change. WTF is wrong with people? [Dave] They've been to Italy and seen how 2 wheelers operate there? Seriously. I got back from Europe a couple weeks back. 3 days Germany, 5 days Switzerland, 4 days Italy, 2 days Austria, 3 days Germany. 2 up Moto through 2nd day Italy. The moto riders in Italian speaking Switzerland & Italy would scoff at this. Riding the center line is standard moto practice there whether they're passing with prejudice or by a lazy 5km faster. They will pass you on any pavement or concrete they can. We actually had a scooter rider try to come up the inside of us in a roundabout. Every scooter rider in Italy seems to think they're Valentino Rossi. If someone had told me this prior to me going I would have dismissed it as exaggeration. Now that I've seen it with my own eyes, ridden in it and lived to tell about it, laments like this don't carry the same weight. Piaggio or Goldwing, they will use any empty pavement to get to the front of the cagers, even if they have to swing out, ride between the front / back of 2 cages to get on the other side so they can jump the curb and ride the sidewalk. Yes, I saw that too. I realize though that this isn't the free for all that is some of the European roads, but a great deal of this is our own selfish "me first" attitude and passive aggressive "you're not passing me, I'm going fast enough" attitudes. Culturally, we don't like people passing us, or exploiting their vehicle's advantages- particularly when we're not moving particularly quickly. I'm not pointing the finger Mike, nor am I attempting to minimalize your complaint here, I am just observing that we are less tolerant generally of stuff on the roads, probably because we have traffic cops in such numbers as to be able to populate most third world countries. Think about it, we have 50 police agencies with a PRIMARY duty to write speeding tickets. No wonder we get angry when folks pass us like MANIACS! or we pass them because they're going so slow they're IDIOTS! ;-) Dave _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:16:03 -0400 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Dave Yates" Cc: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient Smthgelse hit the nail on the head yesterday, I think. He described the Mississippi River as the dividing line of sorts. West of there, drivers seem generally more tolerant of others, including those who like to ride motorcycles "with dispatch." Around here, they seem to treasure their self-appointed roles as a rolling roadblock speed enforcers. On the wide-open roads of Wyoming, I've had drivers ooze onto the shoulder so I could overtake in the same lane. Remarkably this did not seem to threaten their manhood in the slightest, as evidenced by a friendly wave. On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Dave Yates wrote: > > I realize though that this isn't the free for all that is some of the European roads, but a great deal of this is our own selfish "me first" attitude and passive aggressive "you're not passing me, I'm going fast enough" attitudes. Culturally, we don't like people passing us, or exploiting their vehicle's advantages- particularly when we're not moving particularly quickly. > > I'm not pointing the finger Mike, nor am I attempting to minimalize your complaint here, I am just observing that we are less tolerant generally of stuff on the roads, probably because we have traffic cops in such numbers as to be able to populate most third world countries. Think about it, we have 50 police agencies with a PRIMARY duty to write speeding tickets. No wonder we get angry when folks pass us like MANIACS! or we pass them because they're going so slow they're IDIOTS! ;-) > > > Dave _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:19:50 -0400 From: "Matthew Bafford" To: "Paul Wilson" Cc: Dave Yates , DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Paul Wilson wrote: > enforcers. On the wide-open roads of Wyoming, I've had drivers ooze > onto the shoulder so I could overtake in the same lane. Remarkably > this did not seem to threaten their manhood in the slightest, as > evidenced by a friendly wave. That surprised me for a while until I adapted when I was driving in Finland. Drivers there will eagerly pull onto the shoulder (not slowing down) if you are approaching. That, combined with the abundance of artwork on the side of motorways, was refreshing. If the Wyoming is the same way, that just reinforces my desire to experience more of the more western parts of this country. --Matthew _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:25:14 -0400 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Matthew Bafford" Cc: Dave Yates , DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient Yep, that was my experience. The Wyoming guy in the beater pickup wants to cruise at 60, I'd like to go 80. We can easily accommodate each other on a two-lane road without any Sturm und Drang. On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Matthew Bafford wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Paul Wilson wrote: >> enforcers. On the wide-open roads of Wyoming, I've had drivers ooze >> onto the shoulder so I could overtake in the same lane. Remarkably >> this did not seem to threaten their manhood in the slightest, as >> evidenced by a friendly wave. > > That surprised me for a while until I adapted when I was driving in > Finland. Drivers there will eagerly pull onto the shoulder (not > slowing down) if you are approaching. That, combined with the > abundance of artwork on the side of motorways, was refreshing. > > If the Wyoming is the same way, that just reinforces my desire to > experience more of the more western parts of this country. > > --Matthew > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 13:09:05 -0400 From: "Michael Jordan" To: "B-DC cycles" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient > Yesterday I am in the normal backup on Braddock before Pleasant Valley > and another genius on two wheels decides to pass the backup in the > oncoming traffic lane for about .5 mile, dodging into the lane when > traffic approached. Pretty much SOP for Europe. Motorcycles are allowed and expected to use their greater mobility. Nobody gets annoyed. There's a lot of road construction this time of year with the usual practice of shutting down one lane and then alternating traffic on the other (traffic light controlled). Motorcycles go to the head of the line. The cagers know that the bikes won't hold them up when the light goes green. I REALLY prefer riding in Europe. Mr. Yates, unfortunately, seems to have been booked into the remake of "National Lampoon's European Vacation". -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Dave Yates" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Forwarded-For: [(null)] Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:34:22 +0000 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient MJ offers his sage observations: > Yesterday I am in the normal backup on Braddock before Pleasant Valley > and another genius on two wheels decides to pass the backup in the > oncoming traffic lane for about .5 mile, dodging into the lane when > traffic approached. Pretty much SOP for Europe. Motorcycles are allowed and expected to use their greater mobility. Nobody gets annoyed. There's a lot of road construction this time of year with the usual practice of shutting down one lane and then alternating traffic on the other (traffic light controlled). Motorcycles go to the head of the line. The cagers know that the bikes won't hold them up when the light goes green. I REALLY prefer riding in Europe. Mr. Yates, unfortunately, seems to have been booked into the remake of "National Lampoon's European Vacation". [Dave] Haha! ;-) Hectic though it is in some stretches of the continent, I too was the beneficiary of several motorists sliding over to let us by. I did not immediately know that it was custom to filter to the front; but by 3rd day DE, we observed it twice; there are fewer stop lights & stop signs generally, with an emphasis placed on roundabouts. They intimidate some of us initially, but they really work well until you get to seriously high volumes of traffic. One really cool benefit to the 'Rossi-wannabe' scooter riders is that they like to compete for the holeshot so a second or two before the green you can hear the scooter engines wind up and you know it's time to pay attention and go! We only ran into construction... twice maybe? on major roads, 2 or 3 times on back roads. Really, the only thing sucky about Europe - ok, other than the exchange rate - is that once you've ridden in and around Andermatt, everthing else is just... well, not Andermatt. ;-) And I'm sure there are a few other places you can do some seriously fun riding too, but we only had so much vacation time & money. Dave _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=nyQ7-64GnoJEwN64zEYA:9 a=iKyTONRSjy8VeHrJpmf2HHvTM_AA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=KUJAPYlYduUA:10 From: penguinbiker@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (B-DC cycles) Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:28:32 +0000 X-Authenticated-Sender: cGVuZ3VpbmJpa2VyQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient --===============0202759744== -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Matthew Bafford" > > If the Wyoming is the same way, that just reinforces my desire to > experience more of the more western parts of this country. Go west young man and young woman. Go west any way you can but try to do it on two wheels. I can’t tell you why, you will not understand until you go. Just go. John (been in 49 states on two wheels) W. --===============0202759744== _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles --===============0202759744==-- _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-YMail-OSG: Z6g9KmwVM1m6EpQhnSmcWOYoAMyIJ3kG3Utq8vEMplRBmrpKYctf5ETX.yo1TRV2HNoBL1gYoJWnXHJai9ebGLTSriMtRlBK9ybi9EzHMWAvPSHqLvwr.jQwTy5M.dQ9UQ-- Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:36:52 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] OT: need recommendation for GOOD non-dealer auto mechanic in Manassas area Springfield or Stafford too is fine. I need somebody who has a rep for GOOD work and doesn't jerk me around about not installing customer sourced parts and doesn't quote me factory prices for parts instead of looking at aftermarket. TIA _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Julian Halton To: DC-Cycles Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 14:50:12 -0400 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Subject: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months Could a bike sit for six months without being ridden without rust or decay or is this an incredible insult to a machine designed to be revved to 16,000 rpms and cranked over on the track and should be placed up for sale? _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 15:14:57 -0400 From: "smthng else" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months Possible? Yes. I've "recovered" several machines that have sat for years with gas in the tank and carbs. Not a fun job, but they can all be resurected. A good idea? Not a great one, but better than taking a loss on a bike. Stuff will start to break down... fluids, seals, gaskets, etc. If you know you can store it in a secure and dry place, it's not too much of a hassle to prep it. Wash the bike thoroughly. Add some Seafoam to a tank of gas, run it about halfway out (which will also make sure everything is dry after washing), drain the rest. Pull the starter relay and battery, dump a teaspoon of oil in the cylinders and put the best oil and filter you can find in and she should be good. Just remember to "unprep" it and repeat the Seafoam and gas treatment with fresh stuff when you get back (which is why you should pull the starter relay - to make SURE you don't try to crank it until you get the oil back out of the cylinders). Do a final oil and filter change before taking her out again after the return. For a fuel injected bike, I think you also need to blow off the fuel line pressure after you've drained the tank, but that should be about all she needs to be in good shape for your return. One final note... clean everything thoroughly, lube the chain and whatever else you can get to. I'd also wipe down the frame and any screws, bolts, nuts, etc with WD40 to stave off any oxidation while she's sitting. A good coating for Honda Pro polish and cleaner on the fairing and anything else you can get to will ensure the paint stays good and doesn't get any bug carcasses or nests stuck to it. --Jonathan "smthng" Kalmes Springfield, VA 2005 Yamaha FJR1300ABS - "Blue Bayou" 2006 Jeep Unlimited Rubicon - "Teflon" 2008 Kawasaki KLR 650 - It's here, but it hasn't earned a name yet. ;) http://smthng.info "If I'd known it was harmless, I would have killed it myself." On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Julian Halton wrote: > > > Could a bike sit for six months without being ridden without rust or decay or is this an incredible insult to a machine designed to be revved to 16,000 rpms and cranked over on the track and should be placed up for sale? > > > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 16:52:22 -0400 From: "Michael Jordan" To: "Dave Yates" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] impatient > Really, the only thing sucky about Europe - ok, other than the exchange rate > - is that once you've ridden in and around Andermatt, everthing else is just... > well, not Andermatt. ;-) And I'm sure there are a few other places you can > do some seriously fun riding too, but we only had so much vacation time & money. Andermatt is a nice cozy little town with some good riding in its immediate vicinity. But it's just a warm-up for the Dolomites where you can seriously overdose on roads and scenery. Only place that I've ever been on a motorcycle where I've found myself wishing for a straight piece of road. Did I mention food? Food, too :-) -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:19:59 -0400 From: "Aki Damme" <01dyna@XXXXXX> To: "Julian Halton" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.9 Cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months Sure. My Harley sat for *at least* that long and it fired right up. I just made sure it's got Stabil in the tank and keep a Battery Tender on it. -aki (who had a valid medical reason for it sitting) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Julian Halton wrote: > > > Could a bike sit for six months without being ridden without rust or decay > or is this an incredible insult to a machine designed to be revved to 16,000 > rpms and cranked over on the track and should be placed up for sale? > > > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 17:28:28 -0400 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Aki Damme" <01dyna@XXXXXX> Cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months Did your bike get a note from your doctor? Really, to answer the question, six months is no big deal. An even more trouble-free option is to put it on a battery tender and give the keys to a buddy with strict instructions that the bike be ridden once every two weeks. :) On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Aki Damme <01dyna@XXXXXX> wrote: > Sure. My Harley sat for *at least* that long and it fired right up. I just > made sure it's got Stabil in the tank and keep > a Battery Tender on it. > > -aki > (who had a valid medical reason for it sitting) > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Julian Halton > wrote: > >> >> >> Could a bike sit for six months without being ridden without rust or decay >> or is this an incredible insult to a machine designed to be revved to 16,000 >> rpms and cranked over on the track and should be placed up for sale? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> dc-cycles mailing list >> dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles >> > _______________________________________________ > dc-cycles mailing list > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles > _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:00:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] DC Inspection -- Ho Hum Very nice and permanently noted, David. Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 > Green machines join the AMA. ---------- Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:14:35 -0400 From: "David Lowenstein" FYI, DC now offers scheduled inspections: http://dmv.dc.gov/serv/inspection/inspectonline.shtm I've done it and it worked very smoothly. I made the appt at my desired time one day in advance, and printed out my appt confirmation. When you arrive at Half St at the designated time, you pull to the front of the line, right before the chain-link gates, show the traffic guy your confirmation, and he directs you past all the lines to an open (or about to open) bay. Dave Lowenstein > In and out in 35 minutes starting about 11:29a Tuesday. Lots of deja vu. > No major complaints, DMV'ers pleasant. _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:02:43 -0400 From: "smthng else" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months Paul and Aki are right... My prep advice was probably a bit much for only 6 months. Clean it, turn off the fuel petcock (if it has one - some don't these days) and let it run till it runs out of gas, lube it and park it (center stand if ya got one). Slap a tender on it and it'll probably crank right up when you get back to it. I'm just used to older ones that need a bit more "care". Some states (or riders) only have a 6 month riding season, so I'm sure plenty of bikes get this treatment every year. --Jonathan "smthng" Kalmes On 8/5/08, Paul Wilson wrote: > Did your bike get a note from your doctor? > > Really, to answer the question, six months is no big deal. An even > more trouble-free option is to put it on a battery tender and give the > keys to a buddy with strict instructions that the bike be ridden once > every two weeks. :) > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Aki Damme <01dyna@XXXXXX> wrote: > > Sure. My Harley sat for *at least* that long and it fired right up. I just > > made sure it's got Stabil in the tank and keep > > a Battery Tender on it. > > > > -aki > > (who had a valid medical reason for it sitting) > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Julian Halton > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Could a bike sit for six months without being ridden without rust or decay > >> or is this an incredible insult to a machine designed to be revved to 16,000 > >> rpms and cranked over on the track and should be placed up for sale? _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 18:05:11 -0400 From: "Wayne Edelen" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] could a bike sit for six months On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 3:14 PM, smthng else wrote: > > Wash the bike thoroughly. Add some Seafoam to a tank of gas, run it > about halfway out (which will also make sure everything is dry after > washing), drain the rest. Pull the starter relay and battery, dump a > teaspoon of oil in the cylinders and put the best oil and filter you > can find in and she should be good. Just remember to "unprep" it and > repeat the Seafoam and gas treatment with fresh stuff when you get > back (which is why you should pull the starter relay - to make SURE > you don't try to crank it until you get the oil back out of the > cylinders). Do a final oil and filter change before taking her out > again after the return. Why would you drain the tank? My opinion... - put the bike on race stands - tires at normal pressures - full tank of gas w/stabil - run the bike to get the stabil in the rail - top off tank again, if necessary - fresh oil/filter - cheapie is fine, since you'll change it when you resurrect the machine - pull the plugs, little oil in each cylinder, replace plugs - lube the chain - cleaned, dried and waxed bike - every surface - remove the battery and put it on a tender - put mousetraps and/or poison around the bike - use blue painter's tape and cover any openings on the bike - ram air, exhaust, etc - to avoid critters/bugs making homes in there - cover the bike You could also look into one of those inflatable, positive air pressure MC garages. They'll keep out moisture, bugs and rodents. -- Wayne _______________________________________________ dc-cycles mailing list dc-cycles@XXXXXX http://dc-cycles.org/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo/dc-cycles