From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Errors-To: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 03/05/06 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 19:33:48 -0500 From: "John M. Stafford" To: dc-cycles Mailing List Subject: [dc-cycles] Re: More lessons Ride till you see the bubble gum machines spinning, then dismount and walk through. Which is easy unless you own a Goldwing. Enjoy, John M. Stafford ----------- From: "W.S." > Ahhh, more support for the vertical headcheck - the 270/495 lumber lightning > Thursday morning. While not on site, I travel that intersection a few times > a month (other listers more?) and did deep empathizing with the situation. > It reminded of several times I've commented on my overhead surprise events. > > > And it made me assess once again my views on lanesplitting in extraordinary > situations. Had I been jammed onsite (say 495 northbound) I would have been > sorely tempted to split or shoulder, particularly with rain a factor. While > I see many logics, the attendant gendarmes may not. Anybody have positive > or negative experiences in such arenas? Perhaps escaping a citation? I'll > have to admit, in my years of travel I've been seriously highway jammed but > a few times, only one enervating (battery). > > The whole thing surfaced my abhorrence of trucks on the highway. > Particularly open loads and landscapers (season approaching), generally > inferring their lack of preparation for speeds (and possible lack of sleep, > as said to be in this case). > > > Bill S. / DC (on digest) > '99 VN750 > Need 360x360 collision radar > Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 20:53:29 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Beginner bikes - anyone selling? A buddy of mine is looking to get into biking. Figured I'd post up here to see if anyone was selling a good starter bike. He's looking for cheap, but mechanically sound. Looks not really important. Any leads appreciated. Thanks. -- Wayne _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 00:16:54 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Spam-Flag: NO Subject: [dc-cycles] Sometimes it is just dumb luck. Last night (Fri.) on the way home from work I had the closest call I can ever remember having on a bike, and the only thing that saved me was pure dumb luck. I mean there was no time for sphincter clamping, adrenalin pumping, or even an OH! SH&*. No swerve, no braking, hell not even rolling off the throttle, nothing but dumb luck saved my behind. I was riding down the highway near home, (MD 210,) a 6 lane highway, 11:30pm., traveling at speed (not to be confused with careful observation of the speed limit) on a slight downhill, all by myself. I did see a vehicle on the side of the road with its flashers on and someone behind it with a reflective vest so I slowed, just a bit. Then shortly after I went by, in front of me. There was a tire/wheel. Rolling down the road. All by itself. By the time I saw something in the road and made out what it was I was past it. Had it been directly in front of me I _would_ have hit it. Heck, had I been in a car, I would have hit it. I _just_ missed it by inches. Pure dumb luck. No skill at all. I do not know whether to run out and buy a lottery ticket while I am lucky. Or not take a chance of using up any of the luck I clearly need. I hate relying on luck, but it can be a darn handy thing to have around. Good luck all John W. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 01:53:50 -0500 To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Sometimes it is just dumb luck. At 3/5/2006 12:16 AM, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >I hate relying on luck, but it can be a darn handy thing to have around. Whew! I hope you can get the stain out of the seat without too much trouble...and I'm glad it turned out so well for you. Yes, that sort of thing can happen, and on a bike it could be very bad. If you'd been in a car you'd have hit it, and it might have damaged the car, but it wouldn't have been likely to hurt you. Many years ago I was driving a VW Beetle on I-64 through Norfolk, VA. It was a really windy night, with the wind at 90 degrees to the road. Without any warning at all, out of the shadows at the right side of the road flew a *washtub*. One of those 3' or so diameter galvanized steel things some folks wash dogs in. I *did* hit it...it wedged under the front bumper for a few seconds as I was getting off the gas and onto the brake and clutch, then there was a bang and it was gone. Stopping to look for it would have been a bad idea (lots of traffic), so I have no idea what happened to it. Maybe flattened, maybe bounced off the road, maybe someone else got to meet it too, somewhere behind me...no idea. I'm just glad it was scooting along at road height, rather than flying by at windshield altitude... There are some things you expect to happen, like potholes, gravel, sand, deer squirrels, even wet leaves...but the universe isn't limited by our expectations and in those cases really good luck is handy to have. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:24:30 -0500 From: skip To: Wayne Edelen CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Beginner bikes - anyone selling? how about an 84 V65 Sabre? $1,200 / obo --skip Wayne Edelen wrote: > > A buddy of mine is looking to get into biking. Figured I'd post up here > to see if anyone was selling a good starter bike. He's looking for cheap, > but mechanically sound. Looks not really important. > > Any leads appreciated. Thanks. > > -- Wayne _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:29:17 -0500 From: skip To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, DC Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Sometimes it is just dumb luck. damn! nice one. I had "something" come out from the back of a truck (semi) that I was rolling on the power to pass. I don't know what it was. I saw that it existed and then it was gone. I did, however, hit it. just a little bit. dented the exhaust and hti my foot. I took -no- action. it happened too fast... so I understand completely. --skip luck beats good PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > Last night (Fri.) on the way home from work I had the closest call I can > ever remember having on a bike, and the only thing that saved me was pure dumb > luck. I mean there was no time for sphincter clamping, adrenalin pumping, or > even an OH! SH&*. > No swerve, no braking, hell not even rolling off the throttle, nothing but > dumb luck saved my behind. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:10:44 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Wayne Edelen CC: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Beginner bikes - anyone selling? How about a 2001 Suzuki VZ800 Marauder? (cruiser style, cherry condition, one-owner, very low miles). Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: skip Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:24:30 -0500 >how about an 84 V65 Sabre? > >$1,200 / obo > >--skip > >Wayne Edelen wrote: >> >> A buddy of mine is looking to get into biking. Figured I'd post up here >> to see if anyone was selling a good starter bike. He's looking for cheap, >> but mechanically sound. Looks not really important. >> >> Any leads appreciated. Thanks. >> >> -- Wayne > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 15:46:33 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Beginner bikes - anyone selling? On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, skip wrote: > how about an 84 V65 Sabre? > > $1,200 / obo > > --skip Did you miss the part where I said he was my friend? :-) -- Wayne _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2006 15:37:52 -0500 From: skip To: Wayne Edelen CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Beginner bikes - anyone selling? heh :~) yeah, probably not a good starter bike. but a good bike, none the less... my roommate's got a GSXR600 if he's interested... :~) --skip Wayne Edelen wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, skip wrote: > > > how about an 84 V65 Sabre? > > > > $1,200 / obo > > > > --skip > > Did you miss the part where I said he was my friend? :-) > > -- Wayne _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 15:55:54 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Beginner bikes - anyone selling? On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, skip wrote: > heh :~) > > yeah, probably not a good starter bike. > > but a good bike, none the less... > > > my roommate's got a GSXR600 if he's interested... :~) > > --skip What's the year/mileage/condition/price on the 600? Not really a great beginner ride if it's been made in the last several years, but always good to keep an eye out. -- Wayne