From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Errors-To: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 01/30/06 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:03:32 -0500 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Social Observation Good news or bad news depending upon your point of view. The family went shopping at JC Penny's over the weekend and as anyone else who has had a 4 year old and a very pregnant wife tagging along, trips to the restroom are frequent and can be extended. While standing outside yet another restroom I glanced down at the table in front of the men's room door and a saw a sign labelled "Final Clearance-75% off"; on it were all the Orange County Chopper sweatshirts, now down to $5.99 each. Just in case anyone wants to stock up. Cedric Bernescut Network Administrator Inspirational Thought for the Day: http://tinyurl.com/zbgs _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:06:03 -0500 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Review of Two Wheel Tuesday Great post from the Superbike blog: 2 Wheel Tuesday: The ongoing tragedy >From James Walker on Usenet: "2 wheel tuesday is a 30 minunte show minus 12 minutes for commercials. [That equals an] 18 minute show. So, out of [18 minutes], 10 minutes were devoted to how to make a [motorcycle] commercial. For pete's sake Speed Channel, can't ya find enough mc news to even fill [an] 18 minute show?" Amen to that. I desperately want to like this show, but it repeatedly insists on sucking. First of all, they need to get rid of all the enduro and trials crap once and for all. Nobody gives a flying rat's ass about that stuff. If I never see another trials bike in my life, it'll be too soon. Where I come from, we have a similar device to a trials bike; it's called a Pogo Stick, and it's almost as boring. Secondly, anything that doesn't have to do with streetriding or roadracing should be kept to a minimum. Dirtbike racing highlights should be shown, but should be collectively no longer than about 90 seconds in length. Thirdly, I don't want to see another "custom" chopper or S&S-powered piece of butt jewelry on 2WT ever again. Ride On, American Thunder, V-Twin TV, American Chooper, Build or Bust, and a gaggle of other shows on cable have that subject matter covered ad nauseum. Oh, and scooters suck, too. Every time I see something scooter-related on that show, it's like taking NyQuil. The old Motorcyclist TV show had it right. They reviewed bikes, gave performance and suspension tips, touched on streetriding issues, and otherwise kept their focus. 2 Wheel Tuesday could learn a lot by digging into those archives and doing something interesting with their 22 weekly minutes. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Social Observation Content-ID: <7653.1138634577.1@XXXXXX> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:22:57 -0500 From: Harry Mantakos >... on it were all the Orange County Chopper sweatshirts, now down >to $5.99 each. That's a good sign, I think. I recall the following conversation: dude: "My dream is to be able to buy a chopper some day." me: "Oh, you want to get into riding? You can get a good, used bike for pretty cheap." dude: "No, I've just always wanted to own a chopper." I had a heart-warming experience on Saturday. I was on the VFR on 95 and was passed by a dude standing in the saddle in a wheelie, going about 90. At least he was wearing pants. -harry _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:24:37 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] There is nothing quite like a.................... A good morning kiss from a beautiful woman followed by stepping outside to set your eyes upon your motorcycle! Romance aside, I spent an evening in Oakton,VA. Despite no mention of rain, I awoke to damp streets and a bike covered in water and condensation. I did a fair amount of riding this weekend and used up one of my remaining three or four lives. It was my fault and I regret my choice of action. I was cruising West down Canal Road at a leisurely pace. I was coming up on a silver car that had stopped. I did not see any turn signals. I did not know why they had stopped. On the left side of Canal Road, just West of the Chain Bridge there is a parking lot. I _chose to put my left turn signal on, accelerate and pass the car. As I went left, the car suddenly turned in towards the parking lot and me. I went hard left and gassed it, fully expecting to be rammed. I made it and had shaky knee syndrome or a few minutes after. I should not have tried to go around the car. Segue back to this morning. I became a guest commuter from Oakton to Ballston on the 66. Lots of HOV violators, no bikes except for a Fairfax county LEO and lots of congestion. I was much happier being on two than in four. Lessons learned from from this weekend: don't get complacent and stray from the fact that you need to be at alert X 5 all the time. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:34:31 -0500 From: Michael Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Social Observation > the Orange County Chopper sweatshirts, now down to $5.99 each. I see that they're approaching fair market value -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:39:11 -0500 To: "Cedric Bernescut" , From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Review of Two Wheel Tuesday At 1/30/2006 10:06 AM, Cedric Bernescut wrote: >Great post from the Superbike blog: > >2 Wheel Tuesday: The ongoing tragedy > >First of all, they need to get rid of all the enduro and trials crap >once and for all. Nobody gives a flying rat's ass about that stuff. If I >never see another trials bike in my life, it'll be too soon. Where I >come from, we have a similar device to a trials bike; it's called a Pogo >Stick, and it's almost as boring. > >Secondly, anything that doesn't have to do with streetriding or >roadracing should be kept to a minimum. Dirtbike racing highlights >should be shown, but should be collectively no longer than about 90 >seconds in length. I don't watch the show anymore, but that's because too much time was spent watching boring road racing clips. They lean right, they lean left, they lean right...yawn...Oh, look! Someone sliding into hay bales! They lean right, they lean left, they lean right...snore.... Actually, the trials bike stuff was some of the more interesting time they spent. The control needed to do the sort of riding they were showing is amazing, even allowing for the specially-designed bikes (trials riding was once done on regular trail bikes...be interesting to see a class for that if there isn't one). I do agree about the scooters though. The stunt they pulled a while back where they were going to ride cross-country on scooters was interesting only because it was so stupid. Sort of like watching someone belly-flop into a pool full of Jello, or teasing a moose. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:56:21 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: =?ISO646-US?Q?Re:_[dc-cycles]_=3FReview_of_Two_Wheel_Tuesday?= To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'd just be happy if they had a weekly show where they take a cruiser or sportbike and do a teardown and rebuild. Or some indepth maintenance on bikes. It doesn't even have to be performance upgrades,just how to do routine stuff like valve adjustments, brake pad replacements, tire removal, (and how different types of tire tread affects handling) etc. hell, they could even go through an owners manual and show how to go through the scheduled maintenace checks. Have a tech show shortcuts and tips on doing work on your bike..stuff like that. I know how to do 90% of my own maintenance anyway, but at least it would be educational. Personally, I'm pretty sick of dirt bike shows, brainless chopper builts and hour long infomercials for Corbin. -aki _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 10:58:06 -0500 From: "De Boeser, Tom" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Review of Two Wheel Tuesday Cedric Bernescut wrote: > > >From James Walker on Usenet: > > "2 wheel tuesday is a 30 minunte show minus 12 minutes for commercials. > [That equals an] 18 minute show. So, out of [18 minutes], 10 minutes > were devoted to how to make a [motorcycle] commercial. For pete's sake > Speed Channel, can't ya find enough mc news to even fill [an] 18 minute > show?" > > I hate that host. UGH. > Thirdly, I don't want to see another "custom" chopper or S&S-powered > piece of butt jewelry on 2WT ever again. Ride On, American Thunder, > V-Twin TV, American Chooper, Build or Bust, and a gaggle of other shows > on cable have that subject matter covered ad nauseum. > Too much of the "Chooper/American" stuff. Bikes are bikes, more of every kind of bike would be nice. A motorcycle type show like PBS's _MotorWeek_ would be cool. > The old Motorcyclist TV show had it right. They reviewed bikes, gave > performance and suspension tips, touched on streetriding issues, and > otherwise kept their focus. 2 Wheel Tuesday could learn a lot by digging > into those archives and doing something interesting with their 22 weekly > minutes. > Again, the current host SUX. Tom de _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:57:55 -0500 To: , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: =?ISO646-US?Q?Re:_[dc-cycles]_=3FReview_of_Two_Wheel_Tuesday?= At 1/30/2006 10:56 AM, adamme@XXXXXX wrote: > > >I'd just be happy if they had a weekly show where they take >a cruiser or sportbike and do a teardown and rebuild. Or >some indepth maintenance on bikes. The show is "Classic Rides", and they spend a whole series tearing down and rebuilding a '65 Electra Glide. The host (Kevin Tetz, who's a good painter in his own right and has some tapes on the subject) and his expert, William "Dunk" Dunkelberger, who's been a Harley wrench for decades show the whole procedure. They strip it down, repaint things, replace anything worn, put it all back together and adjust it. Engine, fork tubes, brakes, steering bearings, cables, chain, tires, electrics, everything. Very educational. They even do some mods, like using the engine guard ("Crash Bars") for extra oil cooling by running lines to make it part of the oil loop. It looks like they are running that series at the moment. The frame and tires show is on this coming Friday. Info on the show here: http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/shows_dclr/0,2044,DIY_19137,00.html >hell, they could even go through an owners manual and show how to >go through the scheduled maintenace checks. Have a tech show shortcuts and >tips on doing work on your bike..stuff like that. Would you be interested in a DVD that shows that sort of thing? >Personally, I'm pretty sick of dirt bike shows, brainless chopper builts >and hour long infomercials for Corbin. Well, at least Michele Smith is easy on the eyes... ;-) -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 11:07:55 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: =?ISO646-US?Q?Re:_Re:_=3FRe:_[dc-cycles]_=3FReview_of_Two_Wheel_Tuesday?= To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >From: "Mike B." >Date: Mon Jan 30 10:57:55 CST 2006 >To: adamme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Re: [dc-cycles] ?Review of Two Wheel Tuesday >At 1/30/2006 10:56 AM, adamme@XXXXXX wrote: >> >> >>I'd just be happy if they had a weekly show where they take >>a cruiser or sportbike and do a teardown and rebuild. Or >>some indepth maintenance on bikes. > >The show is "Classic Rides", and they spend a whole series tearing down and >rebuilding a '65 Electra Glide. The host ..that's great! I'll have to look into that show. Now, if they would do the same thing for a recent model bike.....at least something newer than a 40yo bike would be nice. >>hell, they could even go through an owners manual and show how to >>go through the scheduled maintenace checks. Have a tech show shortcuts and >>tips on doing work on your bike..stuff like that. > >Would you be interested in a DVD that shows that sort of thing? ..sure.. > >>Personally, I'm pretty sick of dirt bike shows, brainless chopper builts >>and hour long infomercials for Corbin. > >Well, at least Michele Smith is easy on the eyes... ;-) ..you've got a point there. Now if we could get Jessica Alba back in a tight leather body suit on a radical sport bike.... ;-) -aki > >-- >-- Mike B. > >'04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) > >Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes >is better.