From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Errors-To: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 11/22/05 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:17:29 -0500 From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Slicker 'n -- DCC'er down To: At 04:45 PM 11/21/2005, W.S. wrote: >"......A carful of black guys moved the bike to the side and offered lots of >whatever help." ..am I the only one that finds that statement a little racist? I mean, was it really important what color the people were that offered help? -aki -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005 _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:55:09 -0500 To: Aki Damme , From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Slicker 'n -- DCC'er down At 09:17 PM 11/21/2005 -0500, Aki Damme wrote: >At 04:45 PM 11/21/2005, W.S. wrote: >>"......A carful of black guys moved the bike to the side and offered lots of >>whatever help." > > >..am I the only one that finds that statement a little racist? I mean, was it >really important what color the people were that offered help? I didn't see it as racist, but it also wasn't important. Isn't it also sexist? I mean, does it matter whether it was guys or gals? Why not just "people"? Of course, that would be specist...is it really important that it was humans? And did it really matter that it was a car they were in? If they'd been in a truck, an SUV or a canoe...ok, maybe it would have made some difference if it was a canoe. Probably would have explained the crash at least... -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:19:33 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Aki Damme Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Slicker 'n -- DCC'er down Cc: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX A little racist? you got a problem with little people? you got a problem wth little racists? what about big racists? ok sorry for the joke. no, in this context, I think he was acknowledging help from a group of people who often get stereo typed for negative things... so in my book, he was giving credit and acknowledgement for their help.. and helping fight prejudicial stereo types. If had said something like "I changed lanes because i saw a car full of black guys" that would be different. I acknowledge the term "car full of black guys" often gets used in a prejudice manner, but IMO definitely not this instance. I also don't think it would be uncommon for black people to speak similarly if the roles were reversed. When I read it, the "catch phrase" caught my attention, but I thought to myself "oh that was nice" of "them" (jk) to help, and I also thought it was nice of him to acknowledge it. Of course you could always ask the author any specific questions if you wondered... - Danny dreaming of a utopia :) On 11/21/05, Aki Damme wrote: > At 04:45 PM 11/21/2005, W.S. wrote: > >"......A carful of black guys moved the bike to the side and offered lots of > >whatever help." > > > > ..am I the only one that finds that statement a little racist? I mean, was it > really important > what color the people were that offered help? > > -aki > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - Release Date: 11/21/2005 > > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:22:19 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Slicker 'n -- DCC'er down To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Yes, lighten up. Glenn --- Aki Damme wrote: > > ..am I the only one that finds that statement a > little racist? I mean, was it > really important > what color the people were that offered help? > > -aki > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/177 - > Release Date: 11/21/2005 > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:52:11 -0500 From: Thomas Jordan To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Slicker 'n -- DCC'er down What color was the car? > --- Aki Damme wrote: > > > > > ..am I the only one that finds that statement a > > little racist? I mean, was it > > really important > > what color the people were that offered help? _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Slicker 'n -- DCC'er down Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:56:55 -0500 From: "Silver, Arthur \(NIH/NIGMS\)" To: "DCCycles" I can't believe I read this thread nice and short report but damn just went off the deep end. My opinion is I want my five minutes back! Lol Art -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Jordan [mailto:thomas.jordan@XXXXXX] To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Slicker 'n -- DCC'er down What color was the car? > --- Aki Damme wrote: > > > > > ..am I the only one that finds that statement a > > little racist? I mean, was it > > really important > > what color the people were that offered help? _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:22:41 -0500 From: Michael Jordan To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Slicker 'n -- DCC'er down > ..am I the only one that finds that statement a little racist? > > -aki Pretty much so - but then you do tend to see a bit of racism in just about everything. -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:45:14 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Tuesday Morning Entertainment http://media.kladblog.com/media/200511/trial.wmv _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:11:06 -0500 From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tuesday Morning Entertainment To: At 10:45 AM 11/22/2005, Julian Halton wrote: > > >http://media.kladblog.com/media/200511/trial.wmv > ...am I the only one that noticed that Julian deliberately picked a site that was using .wmv format instead of .mov? 8-P -aki -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/178 - Release Date: 11/22/2005 _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 16:52:17 -0500 From: Thomas Jordan To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tuesday Morning Entertainment Does anyone else see this statement as being a bit biased? On 11/22/05, Aki Damme wrote: > ...am I the only one that noticed that Julian deliberately picked a site that > was > using .wmv format instead of .mov? _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:13:41 -0500 From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tuesday Morning Entertainment To: DCCycles At 04:52 PM 11/22/2005, Thomas Jordan wrote: >Does anyone else see this statement as being a bit biased? ..am I the only one seeing the above statement as a bit racial? Possibly bordering on discriminatory? Or worse yet, communistic? bleh.. -aki >On 11/22/05, Aki Damme wrote: > > ...am I the only one that noticed that Julian deliberately picked a site > that > > was > > using .wmv format instead of .mov? > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/178 - Release Date: 11/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.5/178 - Release Date: 11/22/2005