From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Errors-To: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 11/21/05 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:19:55 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Fwd: making a trailbike street legal? anyone know how much the dmv will hassle a person, if they add a baja kit to a dirtbike and try to make it a dual sport.. I think I heard that some say "off road only" on the title. I'm thinking about getting a 250 for non highway use, and trail riding, and it'd be nice to just be able to ride to the trail and do some around town stuff. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:18:32 -0500 From: Thomas Jordan To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Fwd: making a trailbike street legal? Are you looking at brand new bikes? Two or four-stroke? My recommendation would be to find a Honda Reflex which was a 200cc four-stroke. Already street-legal and excellent for trail riding. Oh, cheap too. -T On 11/21/05, Danny Motorcycle wrote: > anyone know how much the dmv will hassle a person, if they add a baja > kit to a dirtbike and try to make it a dual sport.. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 14:58:01 -0500 To: Danny Motorcycle , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Fwd: making a trailbike street legal? At 09:19 AM 11/21/2005 -0500, Danny Motorcycle wrote: >anyone know how much the dmv will hassle a person, if they add a baja >kit to a dirtbike and try to make it a dual sport.. Find out what the requirements are in your state for an on-road bike. If your bike meets them, it should be legal and the motor vehicle folks should have some way of so designating it, probably after an inspection. The major areas for a dirt bike are going to be lights and gas tank...those were the major differences between a dirt-only bike and an enduro that's street legal back when I got my Yamaha XT-550 in the 80s. Dirt bikes didn't generally have a full set of lights and usually had plastic gas tanks...which weren't legal for street use because they rip too easily in a crash on pavement and spill gas all over the place. The XT-550 was street legal, but it wasn't much fun on the highway. A thumper engine, knobby tires, high CG, vertical seating position, and only 315 lbs full of gas and oil are not good characteristics for high speed pavement running. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "LindaT." To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Fwd: making a trailbike street legal? Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:10:53 -0500 I thought a Reflex was a scooter. No? LindaT. www.CustomTankBags.com Hollywood, FL IBA,BMWBMW,AMA '99 R1100RT Mr Buzzy '95 F3 Purple Haze '00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Jordan [mailto:thomas.jordan@XXXXXX] To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Fwd: making a trailbike street legal? Are you looking at brand new bikes? Two or four-stroke? My recommendation would be to find a Honda Reflex which was a 200cc four-stroke. Already street-legal and excellent for trail riding. Oh, cheap too. -T On 11/21/05, Danny Motorcycle wrote: > anyone know how much the dmv will hassle a person, if they add a baja > kit to a dirtbike and try to make it a dual sport.. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:20:56 -0500 From: Thomas Jordan To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Fwd: making a trailbike street legal? Honda likes to keep vehicle names and reuse them... The reflex was a dual-purpose motorcycle back in the mid-eighties. Now it is a scooter. Remember the overgrown go karts they used to sell by the names of Pilot and Odyssey? Those are now minivans. On 11/21/05, LindaT. wrote: > I thought a Reflex was a scooter. No? _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:45:15 -0500 Subject: [dc-cycles] Slicker 'n -- DCC'er down Careful out there. Story of a no-warning skid. Having made plans to take care of a holiday chore, would I let a little forecast change to early rain keep me away from my appointed noontime round today? Of course not. So I found myself inbound on Colesville Road (about half a mile out from the Exxon Station) and wanting to change lanes. Some rain, everyone going pretty slowly. On the downhill, coming up to an intersection, and decided to (conservatively, obviously) change lanes to the right. Everything went but the contact patches, and I ended up sliding a good 20 yards on right side. I checked, a black pavement skid, most likely due to oil/etc. at the intersection. And I am indebted to higher powers. Teeny damage, given potential. No other vehicular contact, but there were plenty around seen as I skidded, including a couple of big trucks. My life was about to pass, after an "Aw Sh%&" and a very speedy dread of paperwork. Traffic stopped, including the massive trucks. A carful of black guys moved the bike to the side and offered lots of whatever help. My only hurts were hip and shoulder dings (now on ice). It took me a few minutes to realize my fortunate state, during which a policeman checked in (there had been other traffic problems in the area). An ambulance and EMT unit checked in later. After going through a gear and site check I took a ride up the rural street. All OK. From then it was just a slow, thankful ride home. One never knows. Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 > You think *your* hip hurts, boss? Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:06:10 -0500 From: Mike Troutman To: DCCycles Subject: [dc-cycles] What is behind you? Can YOUR helmet see behind you? This one can. http://www.rubbermag.com/news/0510/051031_04n.html Pretty cool idea, if it works clearly. -- ___________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801