From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Errors-To: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 11/18/05 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? What's the best recommendation for a heated jacket and gloves? Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Rob Keiser" To: bernescut@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:59:40 -0500 Gerbings thin jacket liner, gloves, and their dual-heat troller. Have never tried their pant liners or socks. Not sure if he's still does this, but the local distributor was Mike Vlahos up in Mt. Airy, MD. http://www.gerbing.com/ Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500 What's the best recommendation for a heated jacket and gloves? Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:09:28 -0500 From: Paul Wilson To: Rob Keiser Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? Cc: bernescut@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX On 11/18/05, Rob Keiser wrote: > Gerbings thin jacket liner, gloves, and their dual-heat troller. Have never > tried their pant liners or socks. > > Not sure if he's still does this, but the local distributor was Mike Vlahos > up in Mt. Airy, MD. > > http://www.gerbing.com/ > > Rob > '98 VFR800 > > > From: "Cedric Bernescut" > To: "DC Cycles" > Subject: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? > Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500 > > What's the best recommendation for a heated jacket and gloves? > > Cedric Bernescut I was fine with just heated grips this morning. But I go have the Gerbings jacket liner (the thin one) Gerbings heated gloves and heated socks when the weather gets rough. I'm not sure I'd spend the money on the socks again. I've only worn 'em three or four times, on really long rides. Jacket liner + gloves should keep you toasty enough on a commute. I gotta remember to take the seat off the KLR and fish out the pigtail for my 'lectrics. :) Gerbings usually has a booth at the MC show in January, if you can wait that long. I visited Mike Vlahos five years ago (w/e before Turkey Day) and he set me up. Even installed the pigtail on my bike while I waited. -- Paul in DC - www.wilsonline.org 95 VFR - 90 KLR _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 07:20:36 -0800 (PST) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX and here I sit in sunny southern FL with the low of 70 deg. If anyone wants a set of new gerbings glove liners, I got a pair. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 10:23:31 -0500 I like my Widder vest with the electronic controller, under my First Gear Kilimanjaro jacket. If it drops much below freezing, I can even zip the fleece lining into the jacket. Otherwise, the vest is enough. Others swear by the Gerbing gear. I have been thinking about heated grips, of some sort. I hate wearing heavy gloves, but my fingers do get cold sometimes. So I wear liners and medium-weight gloves down to around freezing. Heavier gauntlets if it is really cold. Perry >From: "Cedric Bernescut" >To: "DC Cycles" >Subject: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? >Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500 > >What's the best recommendation for a heated jacket and gloves? > >Cedric Bernescut >2000 CBR600F4 >Annandale, VA > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. 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(_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:13:30 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Schmidt Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? To: Perry Coleman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX I bought Gerbing's gloves this fall. They're plenty warm even without the electric, I'd say down to 40 degrees or so. Once it dips below that I use plug them in without a heat controller (that costs about another $60), and they don't get too hot for me. They were perfect this morning. I have firstgear overpants, and they kept my lower body plenty warm over a pair of jeans. Add a underarmour cold gear mock turtleneck under my sweater and leather jacket. The only part of me that was cold today was my neck and chin. I'm going to look into a silk balaclava, then I should be good for the winter. Jeff Black 2003 Triumph Speed Four --- Perry Coleman wrote: > I like my Widder vest with the electronic > controller, under my First Gear > Kilimanjaro jacket. If it drops much below freezing, > I can even zip the > fleece lining into the jacket. Otherwise, the vest > is enough. > > Others swear by the Gerbing gear. > > I have been thinking about heated grips, of some > sort. I hate wearing heavy > gloves, but my fingers do get cold sometimes. So I > wear liners and > medium-weight gloves down to around freezing. > Heavier gauntlets if it is > really cold. > > Perry > > >From: "Cedric Bernescut" > >To: "DC Cycles" > >Subject: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister > off today? > >Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 09:56:52 -0500 > > > >What's the best recommendation for a heated jacket > and gloves? > > > >Cedric Bernescut > >2000 CBR600F4 > >Annandale, VA > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 08:16:40 -0800 (PST) From: matthew patton Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Jeff Schmidt wrote: > and chin. I'm going to look into a silk balaclava, > then I should be good for the winter. go to Performance Bicycles (or any other bike shop) and get a fleece neck tube. I've had mine for 10 years. wonderfully effective. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:22:42 -0500 From: "Silver, Arthur \(NIH/NIGMS\)" To: Or you could go to an outdoor store like an REI or Hudson Trail Outfitter and get a Balaclava that is thin on top and windproof fleese on the bottom around the neck to keep the wind off. I might try and go to a fabric store and make my own. I think that a couple of folks have made a neck thing them selves. Just my .02 Art Silver go to Performance Bicycles (or any other bike shop) and get a fleece neck tube. I've had mine for 10 years. wonderfully effective. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:22:51 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: "matthew patton" , The R1 engine....drinks in this icy air. The RAM air intake loves it. Operating temps are at about 20 degrees cooler than normal. As for the bike being backed into, turns out after a super careful examination, I have a slightly bent side stand, a small scratch on a crank case cover and nothing else. Very Happy today!!!! Julian Halton Group Logic julian@XXXXXX 703.527.7979 x 2338 -----Original Message----- From: matthew patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? and here I sit in sunny southern FL with the low of 70 deg. If anyone wants a set of new gerbings glove liners, I got a pair. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 11:46:25 -0500 From: Paul Wilson To: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX On 11/18/05, Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS) wrote: > Or you could go to an outdoor store like an REI or Hudson Trail > Outfitter and get a Balaclava that is thin on top and windproof fleese > on the bottom around the neck to keep the wind off. I might try and go > to a fabric store and make my own. I think that a couple of folks have > made a neck thing them selves. Just my .02 > > Art Silver > Make your own? Carl Custer, call your office. Search the archives. Custer has a recipe for one. I got one of those dual-density balaclava (called "Shellaclava"?) from the Aero$tich catalog. Truthfully, the high collar on the fleece vest I have works just as well. -- Paul in DC - www.wilsonline.org 95 VFR - 90 KLR _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 12:28:29 -0500 To: "Rob Keiser" , bernescut@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? At 09:59 AM 11/18/2005 -0500, Rob Keiser wrote: >Gerbings thin jacket liner, gloves, and their dual-heat troller. Have never >tried their pant liners or socks. I know several people with the pant liners and they like them. I've heard some complaints about the socks...the wire runs under the foot, and some people are annoyed by this. >Not sure if he's still does this, but the local distributor was Mike Vlahos >up in Mt. Airy, MD. He still does. He was at the MC-HOG meeting in October showing off his stuff. His card is around here somewhere... -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:42:16 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Red light cameras That's a PR release from a company that sells license plate spray for defeating the cameras. Their quoted news source is a newspaper named the Colorado Avalanche, but that appears to be only the name of Denver's Hockey team. I checked the NMA at www.motorists.org but they don't mention it. Anybody have a link to the original source on this? thanks, Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Cedric Bernescut" Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:32:59 -0500 >Another city finds red-light cameras increase accidents: >http://www.clickpress.com/releases/Detailed/5762005cp.shtml > > >Cedric Bernescut >2000 CBR600F4 >Annandale, VA > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:05:20 -0500 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Speed camera problem Some people haven't figured them out yet: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91059-13464706,00.html Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Red light cameras Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:07:23 -0500 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "DC Cycles" Fox news dis a test and there is a video clip of the demonstration, but I couldn't find it at the moment. This article from the Times covers the issue: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030703-120901-3612r.htm Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA -----Original Message----- From: Chris Norloff [mailto:chris01@XXXXXX] To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Red light cameras That's a PR release from a company that sells license plate spray for defeating the cameras. Their quoted news source is a newspaper named the Colorado Avalanche, but that appears to be only the name of Denver's Hockey team. I checked the NMA at www.motorists.org but they don't mention it. Anybody have a link to the original source on this? thanks, Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Cedric Bernescut" Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:32:59 -0500 >Another city finds red-light cameras increase accidents: >http://www.clickpress.com/releases/Detailed/5762005cp.shtml > > >Cedric Bernescut >2000 CBR600F4 >Annandale, VA > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:12:32 -0500 From: Mike Troutman To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Who else froze their keister off today? I love my gerbing heated full jacket as recommended on list. Gerbing heated gauntlet gloves are warm, but the wires irritate my hands. I still freeze the little spot under my chin, no matter what muff or balaclava I wear. Cedric Bernescut wrote: >What's the best recommendation for a heated jacket and gloves? > -- ___________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:23:16 -0500 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Incredible luck Motorcyclist flips over guardrail, falls 3 stories and lands in lake. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002630159_webcycle17.ht ml Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:46:28 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Red light cameras Thanks. What I was curious about was the claim that another city had increased wrecks at red-light-camera intersections. Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Cedric Bernescut" Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:07:23 -0500 >Fox news dis a test and there is a video clip of the demonstration, but >I couldn't find it at the moment. This article from the Times covers >the issue: >http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030703-120901-3612r.htm >Cedric Bernescut >2000 CBR600F4 >Annandale, VA > >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Norloff [mailto:chris01@XXXXXX] >Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:42 PM >To: DC Cycles >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Red light cameras > > >That's a PR release from a company that sells license plate spray for >defeating the cameras. Their quoted news source is a newspaper named the >Colorado Avalanche, but that appears to be only the name of Denver's >Hockey team. > >I checked the NMA at www.motorists.org but they don't mention it. > >Anybody have a link to the original source on this? > >thanks, >Chris > >---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >From: "Cedric Bernescut" >Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 14:32:59 -0500 > >>Another city finds red-light cameras increase accidents: >>http://www.clickpress.com/releases/Detailed/5762005cp.shtml >> >> >>Cedric Bernescut >>2000 CBR600F4 >>Annandale, VA >> >> > > > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 15:48:45 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Incredible luck Wow. The rider fell the height of 3 stories, into water, then swam 25 yards with broken bones to get to a little island! She's tough. Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Cedric Bernescut" Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 14:23:16 -0500 >Motorcyclist flips over guardrail, falls 3 stories and lands in lake. > >http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002630159_webcycle17.ht >ml > >Cedric Bernescut >2000 CBR600F4 >Annandale, VA > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:17:02 -0500 From: Tealkat6@XXXXXX (Steven C. Di Pietro) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, GS_Bikes@XXXXXX, SOC-USA@XXXXXX, suzuki-l@XXXXXX X-AOL-Language: english X-Spam-Flag: NO Subject: [dc-cycles] metric bike-customizing tv show http://www.metrictv.com/ Steven C. Di Pietro A Private Process Server covering Anne Arundel County, Md. and the Greater Baltimore region. ................................. 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