From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Errors-To: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 11/09/05 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:00:08 EST Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Spam-Flag: NO In a message dated 11/7/2005 1:52:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, perrycoleman@XXXXXX writes: > Whenever you find yourself thinking (or saying): "The government ought > to..." stop for a moment and remember to be careful what you wish for. You > might not be too happy when you get it... Many years ago (what other kind do I tell?) just after the federal helmet coercion that forced the states to implement helmet laws I started saying something like "Let them try to pass a seatbelt law and see what happens" Well I guess I saw... Anyhow after the seatbelt law was passed in my then home state the local news interviewed several people about it, one woman said something like "I am glad they passed it because seatbelts are a good thing but I never wore mine but now that it is a law I guess I will." I hope she has a seat in the center fires of hell. Moron. Still makes me want to puke. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:15:51 EST Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Spam-Flag: NO In a message dated 11/8/2005 11:12:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, dcmcrider@XXXXXX writes: > If I had had Custer's "big honkin' tooters" Dyslexia made that a lot more fun to read. OH _TOOTers!_ John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:02:56 -0500 From: Mike Troutman To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] This is why you need to be careful at intersections *** Caution - non-moto content *** http://www.troutman.org/ftp/pub/motorcycle/car-intersection.mpeg If you look carefully, I think you can see the driver's cell phone in his ear *** End non-moto content *** VDOT has confirmed motorcycles will remain a part of the HOV and HOT lane allowed vehicles. Getting them to put it in print makes me feel a little bit better. I still don't think HOT lanes are a good idea; but that subject has just about played out. I am about ready for a new tank bag, and thanks to recent threads I should be able to find a decent one that works well for me. Mine is magnetic and the sharp edged magnets have started pushing through the canvas, causing a nasty new scratch on the new SV. I pulled the magnes out and wrapped them with electrical tape to cushion any future blows, but that isn't much of a final solution. I may just wait until Santa visits. Have to have something moto on my wish list, and a third motorcycle won't fit down my chimney. -- ___________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:36:56 -0500 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post Training is a good idea. Wheelies in traffic is an attitude. Training is unlikely to change the attitude of young bucks trying to engage in the latest "X-treme" activities. Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Robert Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:08:54 -0500 >The government doesn't regulate racing, at least not to the extent of >transportation-related legislation. The whole point of the article is >that government should mandate more safety training as part of the >licensing process, as it might curb some of the described behaviour. > >And I think we can all describe incidents of stand-up wheelies, >stoppies, and other stunts on the public highways around DC, already >the worst traffic in the nation, bar none. These loons are stunting >like this in traffic, endangering themselves and others. > >Robert > > >On 11/7/05, Perry Coleman wrote: >> While I agree with the sentiment that motorcycle safety training is a good >> thing - and heaven knows I have recommended it to a lot of people, old and >> young, who have expressed interest in motorcycling - I can't help but ask if >> we need ANOTHER example of the government telling us what to do or how to do >> it. I don't want a nanny government. Or any MORE of a nanny government than >> we already have. >> > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:10:23 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wanted: welder Cc: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hmm that reminds me.. there is.. or was.. a welder on the list. He welded his own trailer(s) I believe.. you might want to do an archive search. probably on the words weld and trailer.. if that doesn't work, just "weld". _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Sasl-Enc: 4vmBkPL9nx5GOYwySEHgTzHdmwWsn3UvwvI5qIVwMCXB 1131546431 From: "Louis F. Caplan" To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 09:27:11 -0500 Subject: [dc-cycles] Commercial on WTOP I heard a new commercial on WTOP yesterday (at least new to me). It was a woman's voice. She was talking about how brave her brother is, he's a firefighter, mountain climber, stuff like that. Then she said that he also rides motorcycles. She said the only thing her brother is afraid of is soccer moms, because someone not paying attention can hit him and cost him his leg or worse. Then something like "Please be careful, my brother is out there." The ad was sponsored by the Maryland Vechicle Department (or something like that) and WTOP. (Note: as some of you know, I'm hard-of-hearing, so I may be misquoting some things, but you get the general idea) Louis ======= "Admiral" Louis Caplan Fairfax, VA The Tribe MC, Vice President 1998 Kawasaki Concours (called GTR1000 outside the USA) Ask me about my girls: http://www.the-caplans.us _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:29:06 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Commercial on WTOP Cc: DC-Cycles It's been around for probably at least a few months. There are similiar ones played as well. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:35:15 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ray Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wanted: welder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX That was me. While I did build my trailer, I wouldn't go so far to say I was a good welder. There's still a couple of problems - one, it wasn't my equipment, and I'm now living in Portland, OR. If you can't find anyone local, I'll see about hooking you up with my friend who had the equipment. He's out towards Purcellville, and likes bikes and funky projects. Brian --- Danny Motorcycle wrote: > Hmm that reminds me.. there is.. or was.. a welder > on the list. He > welded his own trailer(s) I believe.. you might > want to do an archive > search. probably on the words weld and trailer.. if > that doesn't work, > just "weld". > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:24:10 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Ray To: DC Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Welder Matt - If you're still looking for a welder, and don't mind a hike to Loudoun Co., let me know. I mentioned it to my friend, and he's happy to help you out. BTW, he likes german beer, generally the lighter stuff. Brian _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:25:56 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: "DCCycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch So how many good lunches does the Ballston area really have to offer? With the exception of the exquisite Café Tirolo, the majority of places are your high carb, low nutrient serving chains. The answer is to hop on the bike. 66 E down to Independence. Catch that woefully short light to hang a right on 15th. Keep your eyes open for comatose limo drivers, angst-ridden tourists and your pedestrians run amok that think they are above the law and impervious to bikes. Hang another right on F and cross 14th. Pull a U in front of FineMundo and park your bike directly beside the bus stop. Note that from the bar area you will have eyes on bike the whole time you enjoy a stellar meal. $16.95 gets you Caesar salad, your choice of simple yet delicious Italian entrée and a beverage. The servers are ultra-courteous and friendly. Again your bike is right out front so woe to the chance taking meter maid or oblivious SUV owner that might tamper with your ride. This is a rare thing so splurge on the hazelnut cake with vanilla sauce. Relax, enjoy life, have a wonderful meal and hop back onto the bike for a smooth ride back into Ballston. My favorite ride to lunch. Thought I would share. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:36:52 -0500 From: skip To: Julian Halton CC: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch how can you possibly malign Mario's like that??!? :~) --skip Julian Halton wrote: > > > > So how many good lunches does the Ballston area really have to offer? With the exception of the exquisite Café Tirolo, the majority of places are your high carb, low nutrient serving chains. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:39:34 -0500 From: Michael Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch > My favorite ride to lunch. Thought I would share. I kinda like the ride to "The Front Porch" at Seneca Rocks. Much rather do that than screw with in-town traffic. If that's a bit far, try the Irish Inn at Glen Echo. I don't like it quite as well as I liked "The Inn at Glen Echo", but it's still very nice. Plus, you can take the Clara Barton out, hop onto the beltway briefly and take the GW parkway back in. -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:44:00 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: "Michael Jordan" , I used to be a big fan of The Irish Inn and even had a rider's lunch there in Feb\Mar. Jonathan, Rich and Paul made it. Great little place, also pricy but a fun ride as well. It rained that day. Julian Halton Group Logic julian@XXXXXX 703.527.7979 x 2338 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Jordan [mailto:mjordan812@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch > My favorite ride to lunch. Thought I would share. I kinda like the ride to "The Front Porch" at Seneca Rocks. Much rather do that than screw with in-town traffic. If that's a bit far, try the Irish Inn at Glen Echo. I don't like it quite as well as I liked "The Inn at Glen Echo", but it's still very nice. Plus, you can take the Clara Barton out, hop onto the beltway briefly and take the GW parkway back in. -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:55:06 -0500 Julian, I think you meant to catch a LEFT on 15th. If you go right, you'll head down to Maine Ave. Not that there aren't some interesting places down along the SW waterfront, but it won't get you to a restaurant on F St NW. Perry >From: "Julian Halton" >To: "DCCycles" >Subject: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:25:56 -0500 > > > >So how many good lunches does the Ballston area really have to offer? With >the exception of the exquisite Café Tirolo, the majority of places are your >high carb, low nutrient serving chains. The answer is to hop on the bike. >66 E down to Independence. Catch that woefully short light to hang a right >on 15th. Keep your eyes open for comatose limo drivers, angst-ridden >tourists and your pedestrians run amok that think they are above the law >and impervious to bikes. Hang another right on F and cross 14th. Pull a U >in front of FineMundo and park your bike directly beside the bus stop. >Note that from the bar area you will have eyes on bike the whole time you >enjoy a stellar meal. > >$16.95 gets you Caesar salad, your choice of simple yet delicious Italian >entrée and a beverage. The servers are ultra-courteous and friendly. Again >your bike is right out front so woe to the chance taking meter maid or >oblivious SUV owner that might tamper with your ride. This is a rare thing >so splurge on the hazelnut cake with vanilla sauce. Relax, enjoy life, >have a wonderful meal and hop back onto the bike for a smooth ride back >into Ballston. >My favorite ride to lunch. Thought I would share. > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:01:53 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: "Perry Coleman" , Perry, you are absolutely correct! Hang a right on 15th. Julian Halton Group Logic julian@XXXXXX 703.527.7979 x 2338 -----Original Message----- From: Perry Coleman [mailto:perrycoleman@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch Julian, I think you meant to catch a LEFT on 15th. If you go right, you'll head down to Maine Ave. Not that there aren't some interesting places down along the SW waterfront, but it won't get you to a restaurant on F St NW. Perry >From: "Julian Halton" >To: "DCCycles" >Subject: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:25:56 -0500 > > > >So how many good lunches does the Ballston area really have to offer? >With the exception of the exquisite Café Tirolo, the majority of places >are your high carb, low nutrient serving chains. The answer is to hop on the bike. >66 E down to Independence. Catch that woefully short light to hang a >right on 15th. Keep your eyes open for comatose limo drivers, >angst-ridden tourists and your pedestrians run amok that think they are >above the law and impervious to bikes. Hang another right on F and >cross 14th. Pull a U in front of FineMundo and park your bike directly beside the bus stop. >Note that from the bar area you will have eyes on bike the whole time >you enjoy a stellar meal. > >$16.95 gets you Caesar salad, your choice of simple yet delicious >Italian entrée and a beverage. The servers are ultra-courteous and >friendly. Again your bike is right out front so woe to the chance >taking meter maid or oblivious SUV owner that might tamper with your >ride. This is a rare thing so splurge on the hazelnut cake with >vanilla sauce. Relax, enjoy life, have a wonderful meal and hop back >onto the bike for a smooth ride back into Ballston. >My favorite ride to lunch. Thought I would share. > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:03:12 -0500 Julian, I think you meant to catch a LEFT on 15th. If you go right, you'll head down to Maine Ave. Not that there aren't some interesting places down along the SW waterfront, but it won't get you to a restaurant on F St NW. Perry >From: "Julian Halton" >To: "DCCycles" >Subject: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:25:56 -0500 > > > >So how many good lunches does the Ballston area really have to offer? With >the exception of the exquisite Café Tirolo, the majority of places are your >high carb, low nutrient serving chains. The answer is to hop on the bike. >66 E down to Independence. Catch that woefully short light to hang a right >on 15th. Keep your eyes open for comatose limo drivers, angst-ridden >tourists and your pedestrians run amok that think they are above the law >and impervious to bikes. Hang another right on F and cross 14th. Pull a U >in front of FineMundo and park your bike directly beside the bus stop. >Note that from the bar area you will have eyes on bike the whole time you >enjoy a stellar meal. > >$16.95 gets you Caesar salad, your choice of simple yet delicious Italian >entrée and a beverage. The servers are ultra-courteous and friendly. Again >your bike is right out front so woe to the chance taking meter maid or >oblivious SUV owner that might tamper with your ride. This is a rare thing >so splurge on the hazelnut cake with vanilla sauce. Relax, enjoy life, >have a wonderful meal and hop back onto the bike for a smooth ride back >into Ballston. >My favorite ride to lunch. Thought I would share. > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:04:12 -0500 Eh? >From: "Julian Halton" >To: "Perry Coleman" , >Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:01:53 -0500 > >Perry, you are absolutely correct! Hang a right on 15th. > > >Julian Halton >Group Logic >julian@XXXXXX >703.527.7979 x 2338 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Perry Coleman [mailto:perrycoleman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 2:55 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch > >Julian, > >I think you meant to catch a LEFT on 15th. If you go right, you'll head >down to Maine Ave. Not that there aren't some interesting places down along >the SW waterfront, but it won't get you to a restaurant on F St NW. > >Perry > > >From: "Julian Halton" > >To: "DCCycles" > >Subject: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch > >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:25:56 -0500 > > > > > > > >So how many good lunches does the Ballston area really have to offer? > >With the exception of the exquisite Café Tirolo, the majority of places > >are your high carb, low nutrient serving chains. The answer is to hop on >the bike. > >66 E down to Independence. Catch that woefully short light to hang a > >right on 15th. Keep your eyes open for comatose limo drivers, > >angst-ridden tourists and your pedestrians run amok that think they are > >above the law and impervious to bikes. Hang another right on F and > >cross 14th. Pull a U in front of FineMundo and park your bike directly >beside the bus stop. > >Note that from the bar area you will have eyes on bike the whole time > >you enjoy a stellar meal. > > > >$16.95 gets you Caesar salad, your choice of simple yet delicious > >Italian entrée and a beverage. The servers are ultra-courteous and > >friendly. Again your bike is right out front so woe to the chance > >taking meter maid or oblivious SUV owner that might tamper with your > >ride. This is a rare thing so splurge on the hazelnut cake with > >vanilla sauce. Relax, enjoy life, have a wonderful meal and hop back > >onto the bike for a smooth ride back into Ballston. > >My favorite ride to lunch. Thought I would share. > > > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:11:35 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: "Perry Coleman" , Hang a left, I am directionally challenged today. Thoughts of this idiot in a for hire vehicle that attempted to drift me into a jersey wall have interrupted my directional capabilities. Julian Halton Group Logic julian@XXXXXX 703.527.7979 x 2338 -----Original Message----- From: Perry Coleman [mailto:perrycoleman@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch Eh? >From: "Julian Halton" >To: "Perry Coleman" >, >Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:01:53 -0500 > >Perry, you are absolutely correct! Hang a right on 15th. > > >Julian Halton >Group Logic >julian@XXXXXX >703.527.7979 x 2338 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Perry Coleman [mailto:perrycoleman@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 2:55 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch > >Julian, > >I think you meant to catch a LEFT on 15th. If you go right, you'll head >down to Maine Ave. Not that there aren't some interesting places down >along the SW waterfront, but it won't get you to a restaurant on F St NW. > >Perry > > >From: "Julian Halton" > >To: "DCCycles" > >Subject: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch > >Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:25:56 -0500 > > > > > > > >So how many good lunches does the Ballston area really have to offer? > >With the exception of the exquisite Café Tirolo, the majority of > >places are your high carb, low nutrient serving chains. The answer > >is to hop on >the bike. > >66 E down to Independence. Catch that woefully short light to hang a > >right on 15th. Keep your eyes open for comatose limo drivers, > >angst-ridden tourists and your pedestrians run amok that think they > >are above the law and impervious to bikes. Hang another right on F > >and cross 14th. Pull a U in front of FineMundo and park your bike > >directly >beside the bus stop. > >Note that from the bar area you will have eyes on bike the whole time > >you enjoy a stellar meal. > > > >$16.95 gets you Caesar salad, your choice of simple yet delicious > >Italian entrée and a beverage. The servers are ultra-courteous and > >friendly. Again your bike is right out front so woe to the chance > >taking meter maid or oblivious SUV owner that might tamper with your > >ride. This is a rare thing so splurge on the hazelnut cake with > >vanilla sauce. Relax, enjoy life, have a wonderful meal and hop back > >onto the bike for a smooth ride back into Ballston. > >My favorite ride to lunch. Thought I would share. > > > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post Content-ID: <1027.1131568556.1@XXXXXX> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:35:56 -0500 From: Harry Mantakos >... one woman said something like "I am glad they passed it because >seatbelts are a good thing but I never wore mine but now that it is >a law I guess I will." When I was a kid (1970s), nobody used seat belts. In case of accident, the front seat passenger was protected by his Dad's "superhero right arm" which deployed reflexively upon any sudden stop. Some cars had an annoying buzzer/beeper that went off if the seatbelts weren't fastened, so you'd always fasten them to shut up the buzzer, then you'd sit on them. As I recall, people started using seat belts when seat belt use became mandatory. Should we be so stupid that we need the government to tell us to do common-sense things? No. Are we that stupid? Yes, unfortunately. -harry _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post Content-ID: <1089.1131569836.1@XXXXXX> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:57:16 -0500 From: Harry Mantakos >Training is unlikely to change the attitude of young bucks trying to >engage in the latest "X-treme" activities. Speaking of which, I think we need a badass catch-phrase like these guys have: http://www.dcsportbikeriders.com/ Their phrase is "Keep it on ONE WHEEL!!!" What should ours be? Any way, I don't think the dumbasses who die in an incompetent performance of a wheelie (either with or without pants) are necessarily hopeless cases. The problem here, I think, is a rider who has an inaccurate assessment of his own abilities. If you remember to use your turn signals, and don't run over any of the traffic cones, then you've achieved the highest pinnacle of training, you've earned the highest title we have to bestow, that of "guy with extra letter on drivers license". You're not riding around with a "beginners" license to remind you of your humble status, nor have you just returned from "intermediate lesson number 6" where the experienced instructor patiently worked with you on some advanced maneuver until, after much work and about 15 incompetent attempts, you finally did one that was "pretty good". Training that pushes against the limits of your abilities both humbles you and also reminds you of where those limits are. And, in a worst case scenario, a training regime that takes several months and requires extensive study can serve as a filtering mechanism to weed out the less "serious". -harry _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:03:50 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Brian Ray Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wanted: welder Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX not sure.. but seems to me.. there was someone else too.. someone who had his own equiptment? (doing a quick archive search) _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:11:37 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Brian Ray Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wanted: welder Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Don't see it. Seemed to be an older gentleman.. and I want to say for some reason, that he may have welded something excentric? (or cool?).. got this feeling he had an older truck or van and some property.. maybe he made a trailer out of a truck bed or boat trailer... or maybe it came up during a discussion of a boat trailer being converted.. it's probably been a year or two or three.. I used to enjoy his posts.. I was hoping to see the name and say "yea him!" but dont' see anything. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:19:08 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Brian Ray Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Welder Cc: DC Cycles Or.. there is a bike shop in beltsville I believe.. that the guy welds.. unfortunately I can't remmber the name.. champion motorsports? or ???? I believe they are asian. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] wanted: welder Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:32:41 -0500 From: "lister lynch" To: "Danny Motorcycle" , "Brian Ray" Cc: OK, so I haven't un-subbed yet, but the welder subject caught my attention. Not older (I don't think), but I do have a whole fricken mess of welding equipment, and I'm not afraid to use it. Welded something eccentric - check. Older truck and van - check. Had some land - check. Made a boat trailer - check. Made a moto trailer out of a jetski trailer - check. Maybe not me you're talking about, but it must be my evil twin then. Just couldn't help noticing the similarities to your mystery man. Mike Just moved to VT, sorry. -----Original Message----- From: Danny Motorcycle [mailto:motorpsychol@XXXXXX] To: Brian Ray Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wanted: welder Don't see it. Seemed to be an older gentleman.. and I want to say for some reason, that he may have welded something excentric? (or cool?).. got this feeling he had an older truck or van and some property.. maybe he made a trailer out of a truck bed or boat trailer... or maybe it came up during a discussion of a boat trailer being converted.. it's probably been a year or two or three.. I used to enjoy his posts.. I was hoping to see the name and say "yea him!" but dont' see anything. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:51:18 -0800 (PST) From: Leon Begeman To: DCCycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Moto lunch Julian said: > $16.95 --- Michael Jordan wrote: > I kinda like the ride to "The Front Porch" at Seneca > Rocks. Julian's $16.95 includes fuel to Seneca Rocks and back as well as a generous tip for the server. Mike might not be able to buy fuel both ways, but that's because he fills all bikes that are operated by anyone named Jordan. Leon Begeman - hasn't been to "The Front Porch" since that last trip with Mike and Sean.