From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Errors-To: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 11/08/05 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:08:07 -0800 (PST) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] OT: need house/rental lawyer a friend of mine (a motorcyclist) is getting sued for obscene amounts of money that the landlord claims they incurred to replace carpet and repaint some interior walls. Naturally they are holding the deposit hostage as well. The unit was rented by my friend. The owners sold it out from under her with basically no notice and then claim they incurred all these thousands of dollars of expenses. What it smells like is the owner is trying to make the last renter (my friend) pay for the buyer's purchase demands of new carpeting and paint. The carpet/paint was quite a few years old before my friend moved in in the first place. I moved my friend out of this house and like any rental that's been neglected by the owners (vs tenants) for some time it wan't spic and span, but it was not even remotely trashed either and I've seen quite a few houses in my day. any recommendations? _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:22:36 -0800 (PST) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] wanted: welder anyone here a welder? Or can recommend somebody who can do some really simple work? I need 2 brackets moved on a tubular subframe-like structure. the structure only supports 20lb or less so it doesn't have to be fancy. Anyone know of a HS or community college shop/welding class that would want to do this as practice? _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 04:09:35 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Your post reminded me of Jack's (wantazx6@XXXXXX) POS TL1000 we were all laughing at during the last lister hosted party at Todd Peer's house back in 98. That bike was such a POS with wire to hold the kickstand up and the array of colors from replaced plastic that had not been painted. Glenn --- smthng else wrote: > On the way back to my mom's from Daytona Beach > today, I was passed by a POS > SV650 that had clearly been dropped repeatedly (both > rear signals were > "dangling". Idiot was in shorts and t-shirt, no __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 07:25:35 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post I thnk we have bigger problems to worry about than stunters and new riders killing themselves. Drunk drivers, sleep drivers, tail gaiting or swerving drivers, and oblivious drivers. I think there should be a public awareness campaign of "if you get caught driving swerving out of your lane for any reason other than accident avoidance, such as drunk driving, drowsey driving, innattentive driving; these are deadly events and the state will punish you severely" Also should be this question on the test: "you're riding in the slow lane on a 4 lane highway, you see a car will be merging in that lane soon, you should A. speed up to clear the way for him B. switch to the next left lane C. slow down and give him the right away D. continue driving as normal and another about impeding traffic but i think they already have that _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 07:32:42 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post also like the idea of the graduated licensing of you need to be able to ride a motorcycle before you are allowed to car. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Dave Yates" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 12:47:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] OT: need house/rental lawyer Matt: a friend of mine (a motorcyclist) is getting sued for obscene amounts of money that the landlord claims they incurred to replace carpet and repaint some interior walls. ... any recommendations? [Dave] Hopefully, this is the 4th or 5th thing on your list after the first 3 which should be: 1: contact a lawyer. 2: contact another lawyer. 3: contact still another lawyer. Like types of plague, there are plenty of lawyers out there. Hope you got pictures or video like I did when I knew there would be such a situation. Secure a good schm^^ err... lawyer for this _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:14:37 -0500 From: Michael Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post > Also should be this question on the test: "you're riding in the slow > lane on a 4 lane highway, you see a car will be merging in that lane > soon, you should > A. speed up to clear the way for him > B. switch to the next left lane > C. slow down and give him the right away > D. continue driving as normal Answers in order: D - He (or she)'s merging with you and you should provide a constant reference so that they can plan their merge accordingly. B - If traffic permits, and you can do it far enough in advance, this is polite. A - Depends - if the merger plans to speed up a bit to merge ahead of you, this can get interesting. C - You just got run over by the person on a cell phone in the SUV behind you and/or the merger just slowed down - see "A" above. -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 USAF (Ret) NRA etc. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:58:44 -0500 To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] wanted: welder At 09:22 PM 11/7/2005 -0800, matthew patton wrote: >anyone here a welder? Or can recommend somebody who can do some really >simple work? I need 2 brackets moved on a tubular subframe-like >structure. the structure only supports 20lb or less so it doesn't have >to be fancy. I'm not a welder, but I've been learning to be on my own for a while now. I wouldn't trust my skills on your project yet, but there are a few questions that will come up to determine who might. First is, what is the metal? Tubular subframe-like structures could be anything from mild steel, to aluminum, to chrome-molly to stainless. The mild steel one wouldn't be too hard with just about any equipment, but the others would be best with a TIG welder and someone who knows what they are doing. I've tried chrome-molly with a torch for instance (in a class) and got swiss cheese (it was my first day with a torch in my hand though...the instructor had no problem with this). Another might be what the structure is part of, if anything. Another might be what finish is on it (paint? Powder coat? Nothing?). Another is whether the tubing is open at some point, or completely sealed up (heat makes air expand, and a closed container is hard to weld on for that reason). Good luck! -- Mike B. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:51:10 -0500 To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] OT: need house/rental lawyer At 09:08 PM 11/7/2005 -0800, matthew patton wrote: >a friend of mine (a motorcyclist) is getting sued for obscene amounts >of money that the landlord claims they incurred to replace carpet and >repaint some interior walls. Naturally they are holding the deposit >hostage as well. >any recommendations? If there's a housing authority in the area, contact them and see what the laws say about this. Most places don't allow retention of damage deposits unless there is actual damage. "Normal wear and tear" are generally not considered "damage". Landlords are generally expected to re-paint on their own dime between renters. Renters should leave a place intact, other than normal wear and tear, and "broom clean" (i.e. no piles of trash, no dust bunnies, bath room scrubbed enough to use, etc.). If you are getting sued, it might be best to talk to a lawyer. It sucks, but that's the way the system the lawyers set up works. -- Mike B. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:13:52 -0500 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Michael Jordan Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I was thinking B.. make it legal to be polite :) for those who have no concept of blending in, or anticipating clearly visible traffic problems ahead. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 10:30:49 -0500 From: skip To: DC Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] V-Strom 650 I'm thinking that the V-Strom 650 may be my next bike. Does anyone on her have one? I've read a number of reviews, but would like to chat with an owner, and would love to get a test ride if possible. --skip _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:58:08 -0500 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "DCCycles" > Also should be this question on the test: "you're riding in the slow > lane on a 4 lane highway, you see a car will be merging in that lane > soon, you should A. speed up to clear the way for him > B. switch to the next left lane > C. slow down and give him the right away > D. continue driving as normal Answers in order: D - He (or she)'s merging with you and you should provide a constant reference so that they can plan their merge accordingly. B - If traffic permits, and you can do it far enough in advance, this is polite. A - Depends - if the merger plans to speed up a bit to merge ahead of you, this can get interesting. C - You just got run over by the person on a cell phone in the SUV behind you and/or the merger just slowed down - see "A" above. E. Call them on their cell phone and discuss which option is optimal for both parties. Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:12:31 -0500 From: Paul Wilson To: DCCycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post On 11/8/05, Cedric Bernescut wrote: > > Also should be this question on the test: "you're riding in the slow > > lane on a 4 lane highway, you see a car will be merging in that lane > > soon, you should A. speed up to clear the way for him > > B. switch to the next left lane > > C. slow down and give him the right away > > D. continue driving as normal > ..... > > > E. Call them on their cell phone and discuss which option is optimal for > both parties. > That wouldn't work. She'd have to put down her mascara first to answer the phone, as witnessed by yours truly, GW Pkwy, yesterday. We were stopped, side-by-side at a light at the north end of Old Town. If I had had Custer's "big honkin' tooters" I might have given her a black streak up the forehead. As it was, the little roadrunner "meep-meep" of the KLR horn prolly wasn't audible over the radio, and discretion being the better part of pusillanimity, I didn't toot. -- Paul in DC - www.wilsonline.org 95 VFR - 90 KLR _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:25:20 -0500 From: "Julian Halton" To: "DCCycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Ride and Camp Any suggestions on a ride and camp trip within about 3-4 hours driving distance. - something with spectacular views - hiking trail running, water nearby - bed and breakfast if needed I have been to OhioPyle and Gauley river and camped ..these were mostly whitewater rafting trips. Anyone have a preferred spot in the Shenandoah National Park. Thanks. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-ID: <715.1131475812.1@XXXXXX> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:50:12 -0500 From: harry@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] off-topic postings (lawyers, etc.) It's been a while since I've whined administratively, so please be reminded that postings to dc-cycles need to be at least remotely about motorcycling (ummm, except for this one). When off-topic postings are made, the poster generally gets a "gentle reminder" from me in private email. I ask that listers who choose to respond to off-topic postings also do so in private email rather than CC'ing the list. I've attached a list of "Da Rules" as seen on www.dc-cycles.org. There are only 4 of them. -harry Da Rules 1. No off-topic postings. dc-cycles is about motorcycling in the DC area, but anything relevant to motorcycling is "close enough". If it's not about motorcycling, you'll need to find a more appropriate forum for your question or comment. 2. No bitch-slapping on the list. When it gets "personal", it ceases to be about motorcycling (see Rule 1 above). Take it to private email. 3. Buy/sell postings are perfectly acceptable if the item is motorcycling-related and is personal property (not part of a continuing business). 4. There is no rule 4. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Ride and Camp Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:11:01 -0500 How about Blackwater Falls, in Davis(?) WV? It's near Canaan Valley. Very nice, and you can do all sorts of nice scenic rides to get there. They've got camping and a lodge and there are plenty of motels around. There are probably some B&B's but I've never checked. The lodge is actually pretty cool if you don't want to camp. Perry >From: "Julian Halton" >To: "DCCycles" >Subject: [dc-cycles] Ride and Camp >Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:25:20 -0500 > > >Any suggestions on a ride and camp trip within about 3-4 hours driving >distance. > >- something with spectacular views >- hiking trail running, water nearby >- bed and breakfast if needed > >I have been to OhioPyle and Gauley river and camped ..these were mostly >whitewater rafting trips. Anyone have a preferred spot in the Shenandoah >National Park. > >Thanks. > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Ride and Camp Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:12:33 -0500 How about Blackwater Falls, in Davis(?) WV? It's near Canaan Valley. Very nice, and you can do all sorts of nice scenic rides to get there. They've got camping and a lodge and there are plenty of motels around. There are probably some B&B's but I've never checked. The lodge is actually pretty cool if you don't want to camp. Perry >From: "Julian Halton" >To: "DCCycles" >Subject: [dc-cycles] Ride and Camp >Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:25:20 -0500 > > >Any suggestions on a ride and camp trip within about 3-4 hours driving >distance. > >- something with spectacular views >- hiking trail running, water nearby >- bed and breakfast if needed > >I have been to OhioPyle and Gauley river and camped ..these were mostly >whitewater rafting trips. Anyone have a preferred spot in the Shenandoah >National Park. > >Thanks. > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Ride and Camp Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:20:10 -0500 Oh! Another thought: Sherando Lake. It's just south of Waynesboro, VA near the north end of the Blue Ridge Parkway. Plenty of camping and I think there are some B&B's in the area. That's probably on the short end of 3 hours. If you want to go a little further, I also recommend Peaks of Otter on the BRP. It's down near Roanoke. It's probably closer to 5-6 hours. They have camping and a lodge. There's also motels in the area, but you might have to detour off the BRP a few miles into a town. All of these have hiking trails, historical sites, etc. nearby. Perry >From: "Julian Halton" >To: "DCCycles" >Subject: [dc-cycles] Ride and Camp >Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:25:20 -0500 > > >Any suggestions on a ride and camp trip within about 3-4 hours driving >distance. > >- something with spectacular views >- hiking trail running, water nearby >- bed and breakfast if needed > >I have been to OhioPyle and Gauley river and camped ..these were mostly >whitewater rafting trips. Anyone have a preferred spot in the Shenandoah >National Park. > >Thanks. > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:34:47 -0800 (PST) From: MOFO_Load Subject: From Digest: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post To: DC Cycles Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:54:49 -0500 From: Michael Jordan > ..well, for *me*, I think this is an area that *needs* goverment intervention. > -aki Perhaps we should embrace the German model and apply it to all drivers - automobile as well as motorcycle. You'll spend 3 to 6 months and a few thousand dollars doing it. But, at the end, you will have an education. [Hmmmm...I've often thought that was a good idea too. If you also trow in that the money earned by the state is ported to public transportation, I'd be for it.] As far as general stupidity goes, Robert Heinlein (through one of his characters) summed it up nicely: "Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime, the sentence is death, there is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity." The only think we can hope is that sentence is carried out prior to the ceremonial passing on of genes. [LOL, you and R.H. be funny] __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:36:23 -0800 (PST) From: MOFO_Load Subject: From Digest: [dc-cycles] Article in Sunday's Post To: DC Cycles From: You're probably right. I wouldn't be so concerned if it were not for the idiots doing wheelies wiping out innocents. If they just killed themselves, I'd be all for a tax just to build roads where they could go all out, wipe out and then just scoop them up and flip them into the back of a dump truck to be turned into soylent green. ;-) -aki [Hmmmmm, "idiots doing wheelies wiping out innocents.". Don't make me start a gun-laws thread ;)] __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com