From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 11:40:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04639 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA04088 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NIH2WAAE (known smtp5.site1.csi.com [149.174.183.74]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17263 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:40:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by csi.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:40:01 -0400 Sender: hgg@XXXXXX Received: from HGREENS.adventisthealthcare.com (user-38lc44n.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.16.151]) by hil-img-ims-2.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/IMS-1.4) with SMTP id LAA25945 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980903114212.006a0bdc@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 11:42:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Virago Owner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On my way to the bookstore, I passed by a lovely young woman parking a Virago next to the Georgetown University Medical School building. Does anyone know her? Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 11:41:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA04650 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA04215 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (known gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17285 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) with SMTP; 3 Sep 1998 15:40:53 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA14895 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:40:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:40:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: R1 or GSXR750 - neither In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 Boiade@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 98-09-02 21:25:32 EDT, WantAZX6@XXXXXX writes: > > << Really learn to shred then consider a R1 or Gixxer. No > offense intended here Sean, just stating the facts. > >> > He said he wanted something more comfortable for longer trips and fast. R-1 > and GSXR are probably less suited to long trips than the TLR. With both a VFR > and Zx-9R i can tell you the 9 is more comfortable believe it or not. Whether > he should ride a bike with the performance of a 9 (or GSXR or R-1) is another > question. > > Ciao, > > fred The ZX-9 is *more* comfortable than a VFR? err.. hmm. I think I need to go test ride one of those then.. problem really being, not many kawi dealers are like "Oh yeah, here ya go!" for their pride and joy. Perhaps somewhere down the road I can fenagle a lister into a 20 mile swap or something like that! Still, interesting. What do you find more comfortable about it? What model vfr? Alex. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 12:03:12 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05650 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA05618 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (known dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18159 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:02:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA00830; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:01:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv1-24.ix.netcom.com(205.184.22.56) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma000678; Thu Sep 3 10:59:38 1998 Message-ID: <35EEA65F.1947@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 07:23:27 -0700 From: Ken Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: anything on Sunday or Monday ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know I cant make the poker run saturday, anybody know of anything going on or planning any rides on Sunday or Monday, It will be my last chance for a while probably, I start working night shift over the weekends starting next week... UGH... -- Ken S. HDKnight 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 12:08:52 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA05746 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA05774 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (known cap1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18556 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA22750; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:07:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:07:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Virago Owner In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980903114212.006a0bdc@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Was it _her_ bike? Sorry...the question begged to be asked! :-) On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > On my way to the bookstore, I passed by a lovely young woman parking a > Virago next to the Georgetown University Medical School building. Does > anyone know her? > > Harry > Bethesda, MD > '97 BMW R1100RT > http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm > "The more you live, the less you die." > > -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 12:21:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06656 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA05951 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:21:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA18997 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:22:24 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:21:59 -0400 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Subject: Re: D'oh.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I think you're right. Scooter >>> "McCoy, Brian P HQ02" 09/03/98 = 09:06AM >>> Someone told me there was a GAP in the bikes so I could clear some debris from the track.. I think they lied, what do you think? <>=20 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 12:31:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07188 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06232 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19529 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DM8ZXZ4F; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:30:37 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <19980901.230648.8199.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:30:37 EDT Anyone object to a Virginia motorcycle dealer listening (and occasionally chiming) in on your discussions? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 12:31:25 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07199 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06239 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:31:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (known usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19543 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:31:16 -0400 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 03 Sep 1998 12:31:10 -0400 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 03 Sep 1998 12:31:10 -0400 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 0587435EEC44E04A-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 0587435EEC44E04A Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <0587435EEC44E04A*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 03 Sep 1998 12:31:10 -0400 From: "Burger, Donald " To: DC Cycles (IPM Return requested), "Thomas H. Gimer" (IPM Return requested) Subject: RE: Cycles USA courtesies & other shops Message-Id: <0587435EEC44E04A*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> I've got to agree with both of you. When I need to pick something up in a hurry I generally run over to Cycles USA and have had little, if any trouble getting what I need. Their service department does suck for timeliness though. On Monday I wanted to get something checked out on my bike and they told me to bring it in next Friday (9/18). I told them I'll go elsewhere, thank you very much! I got my last tire from CAD, I brought the back wheel in, picked a tire, went and got lunch and by the time I got back it was ready. Service the way it should be. Don B---------- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 12:46:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07765 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06479 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20136 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA24300; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:45:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19980903164530.OYTY611@localHost>; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 11:45:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Peer To: "McCoy, Brian P HQ02" CC: "'dc'" Subject: Re: D'oh.. X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980903164530.OYTY611@localHost> Aa-yup! Aa-yup! Aa-yup! Nice forward lean angle though Brian :) T Message-ID: <070CAC6CBDDAD111A80E0008C7F4504229B8EC@XXXXXX> From: "McCoy, Brian P HQ02" To: "'dc'" Subject: D'oh.. Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:06:56 -0400 Someone told me there was a GAP in the bikes so I could clear some debris from the track.. I think they lied, what do you think? <> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 12:50:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07875 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:50:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06639 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqmail01.hq.usace.army.mil (known hqmail01.hq.usace.army.mil [155.75.10.223]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20325 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hqmail01.hq.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:51:15 -0400 Message-ID: <070CAC6CBDDAD111A80E0008C7F4504229B904@hqmail04.hecsa.usace.army.mil> From: "McCoy, Brian P HQ02" To: "'bike.dealer@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc'" Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:48:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" No problems here so long as you don't advertise... -----Original Message----- From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 12:31 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Anyone object to a Virginia motorcycle dealer listening (and occasionally chiming) in on your discussions? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 12:56:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08227 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:56:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06770 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20639 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:56:30 -0400 (EDT) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id WAORa02819 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <785795e2.35eeca14@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:55:48 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: dealer snooping (just kiddin) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 I have no objections. Jack From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 12:57:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08302 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:57:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06788 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20679 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 535; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:56:50 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980903125647.0131ccb0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:56:50 -0400 To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us), dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We hope you are with Coleman. At 12:30 PM 9/3/98 EDT, Bikes R Us wrote: >Anyone object to a Virginia motorcycle dealer listening (and occasionally >chiming) in on your discussions? > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org The main reason Santa is so jolly is because he knows where all the bad girls live. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 13:01:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA08602 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06876 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (known gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA20798 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:01:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) with SMTP; 3 Sep 1998 17:01:19 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19614 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:01:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:01:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <19980901.230648.8199.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Bikes R Us wrote: > Anyone object to a Virginia motorcycle dealer listening (and occasionally > chiming) in on your discussions? > I dont mind. It may provide you some valuable insight into what customers like/dont like - and if you end up improving your service because of it, then the list is doing its job! Where in virginia, if I may ask? Perhaps if you guys are a reasonable dealer, we can send some business your way, and you guys can throw us some frills (like tire mounting when you buy a tire!). But either way, I dont see a problem. Alex. '94 VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 13:15:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09333 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07161 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21296 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 170; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:13:25 -0400 Message-ID: <35EECE4F.27410CFA@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 13:13:51 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "McCoy, Brian P HQ02" CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: D'oh.. References: <070CAC6CBDDAD111A80E0008C7F4504229B8EC@hqmail04.hecsa.usace.army.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Run Brian Run! :) McCoy, Brian P HQ02 wrote: > > Someone told me there was a GAP in the bikes so I could clear some > debris from the track.. I think they lied, what do you think? > > <> > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 13:19:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09386 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07249 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redmailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (known redmailwall.attws.com [206.213.111.115]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21502 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viruswall.entp.attws.com by redmailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. V8 version 2) id KAA23487; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by viruswall.entp.attws.com (8.8.8/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. V8 version 2) id KAA23707; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id KAA21233; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:18:41 -0700 Received: from hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id KAA21105; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:18:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199809031718.KAA21105@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> Received: by hq-msg01.nwest.mccaw.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:16:54 -0700 From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Virago Owner Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:11:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Hee, hee, hee, could that be me?! :-) No, it's not, but I do now own an old Virago. Took possession of it yesterday. It's a 1982 Virago 750. Needs a little work but I think it was a good deal. Eventually I'll pass it along to my brother who wants to use it for long weekend commutes from TN to GA. Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC direct 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * Main 202-223-9222 > -----Original Message----- > From: Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. [SMTP:hgg@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 8:42 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Virago Owner > > On my way to the bookstore, I passed by a lovely young woman parking a > Virago next to the Georgetown University Medical School building. Does > anyone know her? > > Harry > Bethesda, MD > '97 BMW R1100RT > http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm > "The more you live, the less you die." > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 13:19:49 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09390 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07253 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (known piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21505 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809031719.NAA21505@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AF3B224029E; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 13:17:47 EDT X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 13:21:59 -0400 To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us), dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: VA motorcycle dealer participation In-Reply-To: <19980901.230648.8199.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Glad to have you here. It'd be nice to get another point of view. Probably shouldn't advertise, though off-list responses to people shouldn't incur any wrath. Personally, I'd like to hear more from dealers, but as soon as some people find out they're in business to earn a living they get shouted down. Chris Norloff At 12:30 PM 9/3/98 -0400, Bikes R Us wrote: >Anyone object to a Virginia motorcycle dealer listening (and occasionally >chiming) in on your discussions? > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 13:20:13 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09477 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07262 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21542 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 295; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:17:55 -0400 Message-ID: <35EECF62.899BFC21@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 13:18:26 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: louis@XXXXXX, Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> CC: DC-Cycles List , Tracy Horstman Subject: Re: Blue Knights Poker Run References: <199809031419.KAA20933@shell.clark.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Louis: Sounds great. Tracy and I have a rare opportunity to do a poker run together this weekend (kids in PA with grandparents - woo hoo!) Anita: Want company for breakfast? We'll be there around 8:00 am. :-) Regards, Dale (the Horkster) louis@XXXXXX wrote: > > This Saturday, 5 September, a few of us have discussed > going on the Blue Knights Poker Run, starting/ending in > Culpeper, VA. > > We will be meeting at the Old Country Buffet in Manassas, VA. > For those who would like to eat breakfast there, Anita will be > arriving 8:00 - 8:15ish. For those who just want to ride down, > we will be meeting about 8:45 for a 9:00 departure time. > > The run starts and ends at the Culpeper Holiday Inn (Tom Mersch > is in the process of finding better directions, as those given > are quite vague). For the most part we'll just be running down > Rt. 29. > > Registration is from 9:00 - 11:00 am. > > $8 for a poker hand (discount on 2nd hand). Prizes are a portion > of the entry money (15%, 10%, 5%). Profits support local charities. > > If there are a lot of people, we may find it better to split groups. > > That is all the information I know so far. I don't know how long, or > how far the run will be. > > Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 13:22:13 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09508 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07286 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redmailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (known redmailwall.attws.com [206.213.111.115]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21653 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viruswall.entp.attws.com by redmailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. V8 version 2) id KAA24373; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by viruswall.entp.attws.com (8.8.8/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. V8 version 2) id KAA25122; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id KAA22565; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:21:10 -0700 Received: from hq-msg04.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id KAA22556; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:21:08 -0700 Received: by hq-msg04.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BDD724.8FF0F650@XXXXXX>; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:21:06 -0700 Message-ID: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: CAMS Ride Sunday, Sept 6 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:15:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Encoding: 20 TEXT, 59 UUENCODE X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Anita and I will be going. 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M5%0[;#U(445.1U]-4T`#T``0````$`````````"P`I```` M```+`",```````(!?P`!````40```#QC/553)6$]051434%)3"5P/4%45"5L M/4A114Y'7TU31S R+3DX,#DP,S$W,34Q-EHM,3(P-T!H<2UM > > > X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 13:46:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10923 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09063 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rbhub101.chamb.disa.mil (known rbhub101.chamb.disa.mil [209.22.120.24]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA23670 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rbhub101.chamb.disa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:46:14 -0400 Message-ID: <5731E91FCE0ED211B05B0020484016A326CCB2@RBMAIL103> From: "Mersch, Tom" To: "'dc-cycles'" Subject: RE: anything on Sunday or Monday ? Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:48:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Ken, The CAMS are having a ride on Sunday. Stands for Capital Area Motorhead Society -- every bit as well organized as dc-cycles, variety of bikes (extremely few Harley), moderate to ocassionally fast riding pace. Forwarded from John Weinstein's notice: i know it's been a while so let's do it. don't ask me for details since i haven't any. what i do know is that the ride will be ~100-125 mi. some time ago, a few folks asked if we could do shorter rides so new riders, wives, girl friends, small farm animals, etc could attend. o meet at the fairfax silver diner (west ox road off rt 50, near fair oaks mall) at 0830 for breakfast. (Rt 50 East, West Ox Rd South, look for Silver Diner on left at a traffic light before I-66) o ride departs 1000 sharp (ha ha ha ha) (but they usually do leave by 1030) o i expect we'll be done by 1500. please arrive with a full tank of gas (or at least 75 mi.) if i remember, i'll bring the cams t-shirts. i still owe shirts to 4 people and even have a few left to sell. i'll be out of town thru fri night so if you have any qs, pse take them up with the cams executive committee. john Tom M. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [SMTP:shephar1@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 10:23 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: anything on Sunday or Monday ? > > I know I cant make the poker run saturday, anybody know of anything > going on or planning any rides on Sunday or Monday, It will be my last > chance for a while probably, I start working night shift over the > weekends starting next week... UGH... > -- > Ken S. > HDKnight > 1996 XLH1200 > Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 13:57:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA11463 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09201 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA24068 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 13:58:39 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 13:58:10 -0400 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX, bike.dealer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Agreed. >>> "McCoy, Brian P HQ02" 09/03/98 = 12:48PM >>> No problems here so long as you don't advertise... -----Original Message----- From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX=20 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 12:31 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 Subject:=09 Anyone object to a Virginia motorcycle dealer listening (and occasionally chiming) in on your discussions? =09 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com=20 Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 14:07:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12126 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA09460 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:07:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net (known relay4.smtp.psi.net [38.9.52.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA24495 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay4.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zEdn6-0004gq-00; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:07:28 -0400 Received: by SUBSPACE with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:06:44 -0400 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84D9D92F9@BADGE> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'aki.damme@XXXXXX'" , hgg@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Virago Owner Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:04:49 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain LOL > -----Original Message----- > From: aki.damme@XXXXXX [SMTP:aki.damme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 1:41 PM > To: hgg@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Virago Owner > > ..you just saw her *parking* it right? Her boyfriend probably asked > her to put the kickstand down and stand by it while he runs inside.. > ;-) > > -aki > > > On my way to the bookstore, I passed by a lovely young woman > parking a > > Virago next to the Georgetown University Medical School building. > Does > > anyone know her? > > > > Harry > > Bethesda, MD > > '97 BMW R1100RT > > http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm > > "The more you live, the less you die." > > > > > > > > X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 14:16:08 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12668 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:16:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10464 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psasolar.psa.pencom.com (known psasolar.colltech.com [208.229.236.14]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25257 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ps300test ([165.117.240.15]) by psasolar.psa.pencom.com (VER/What/1.0) with SMTP id NAA03908 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:15:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001d01bdd767$00e9af40$0ff075a5@ps300test.wsmg> From: "Joshua F. Canary" To: "cycles" Subject: rookie help Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:16:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I'm extremely anxious to get my first bike but I have some logistical questions that I'd like some help with. 1) How have people dealt with the akward period when they don't yet own a bike but would like to learn to ride to see if it is something they would be willing to pour money into. I don't know anyone with a bike and a checkbook that would be kind/foolish enough to let me learn on it. Is there anything other than the MSF classes which seem to be booked until Y2K? 2) Can anyone reccomend a resource for me to learn more about bikes so I can make an intelligent decision when I purchase my first. 3) Reccomended types of 'trainee' bikes. I'm looking for something that will wet my pallete for something more without tearing my head off. I'm about 6'1,220 if that helps to figure out a make/model. 4) Any trusted resources where a fella can buy his first used/new bike. Thanks for the help. jfc From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 14:18:35 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12694 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10666 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25463 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DM874N96; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:18:02 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <19980902.003623.9839.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-4,7-9 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:18:02 EDT At this point, I'd rather remain anonymous regarding which dealership this is. Not trying to be evasive, just trying to keep a low profile both on the list and here at work (the owner has Email too -- and people talk...) Certainly those of you who are at work right now can understand. However, if you have a question or discussion that needs a dealer's perspective, throw it out there and I'll try to give you the inside track. --Bikes R Us-- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 14:20:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12784 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10704 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25529 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tstraining3 (techsup-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.13]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01601 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809031820.OAA01601@smtp1.erols.com> X-Sender: sled@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.44 (Beta) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:27:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: Re: VA motorcycle dealer participation In-Reply-To: <199809031719.NAA21505@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <19980901.230648.8199.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've never minded paying a slightly higher price at a local dealer for a few reasons... stimulates the local economy (MY economy!) helps develop a relationship with the local dealership pretty much guarantees you have somebody to complain to in person (if needed) everybody's gotta make a living Besides, after a while you become known as a regular (and good, and happy, and ...) customer and they are more willing to cut you a deal. Sure, you might only be buying a jacket or a helmet now, but imagine in 3 years when you want that hot new bike and the dealer remembers that you've been buying your stuff there for years... I think having a dealer reading the list would only help him/her/them. My advice would be to lurk, however, and not chime in on much -- thereby reducing the risk of getting flamed. Contact on the dealer's part would probably be better off-list...that would also keep our little flame-fests down to a manageable size, don't you think? A dealer reading the list would know what kinds of things we look for in a dealer -- and what kinds of things we hate! Anyway, my $.02 w At 13:21 03-09-98 -0400, you wrote: >Glad to have you here. It'd be nice to get another point of view. > >Probably shouldn't advertise, though off-list responses to people shouldn't >incur any wrath. Personally, I'd like to hear more from dealers, but as >soon as some people find out they're in business to earn a living they get >shouted down. > >Chris Norloff > > >At 12:30 PM 9/3/98 -0400, Bikes R Us wrote: >>Anyone object to a Virginia motorcycle dealer listening (and occasionally >>chiming) in on your discussions? >> >>_____________________________________________________________________ >>You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >>Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >>Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> > Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" Yes, the helmet matches on purpose. No, my wife did NOT pick it out for me. http://shadow.newspeak.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 14:31:16 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13388 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:31:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA10885 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (known radagast.wizard.net [206.161.15.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25861 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tc1-s11.wizard.net (tc1-s11.wizard.net [206.161.15.41]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA27370; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:30:45 -0400 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: Dale Horstman Cc: DC-Cycles List Subject: Re: Blue Knights Poker Run Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:35:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3607e07c.228788922@smtp.wizard.net> References: <199809031419.KAA20933@shell.clark.net> <35EECF62.899BFC21@tidalwave.net> In-Reply-To: <35EECF62.899BFC21@tidalwave.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 13:18:26 -0400, Dale Horstman wrote: >Want company for breakfast? We'll be there around >8:00 am. :-) Dale,=20 That'd be great! Now I'll be sure to get up early enough! :-) I guess I'll be leaving Sterling by 7:15 am at the latest (ack!, that is early!!) The Old Country Buffet has a great breakfast, well worth the extra effort! :-) I noticed that you had my email address as "2xracers@XXXXXX" -- I've changed Internet providers so that address will no longer work... my new address is "2xracers@XXXXXX". Just an FYI! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 14:40:09 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13797 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:40:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11019 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:39:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA26207 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA06090; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localHost ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19980903183917.QBOB611@localHost>; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 13:39:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Peer To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Dealers on the list?? X-Mailer: MailRoom v2.1e Message-Id: <19980903183917.QBOB611@localHost> I don't mind, if you don't mind identifying yourself explicitely. And if you don't use this list to spam us. Be forwarned though that this list of people are fairly negatively opinionated towards certain dealers in the area, and some of the practices by dealers in general. Todd To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <19980901.230648.8199.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:30:37 EDT Anyone object to a Virginia motorcycle dealer listening (and occasionally chiming) in on your discussions? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 14:40:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13839 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11046 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:40:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (known radagast.wizard.net [206.161.15.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA26219 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:40:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tc1-s11.wizard.net (tc1-s11.wizard.net [206.161.15.41]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA28365; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:40:13 -0400 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: "Joshua F. Canary" Cc: "cycles" Subject: Re: rookie help Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 14:44:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3608e256.229262960@smtp.wizard.net> References: <001d01bdd767$00e9af40$0ff075a5@ps300test.wsmg> In-Reply-To: <001d01bdd767$00e9af40$0ff075a5@ps300test.wsmg> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:16:05 -0400, "Joshua F. Canary" wrote: > Is there anything >other than the MSF classes which seem to be booked until Y2K? The MSF class *is* very popular, with good reason. I've heard that you can just show up on Friday night, and if there are any no-shows you can take the class. Can't remember where I heard this, might not be true! But, if you live somewhat near the NVCC Loudoun campus, it might be worth a shot. >2) Can anyone reccomend a resource for me to learn more about bikes so I= can >make an intelligent decision when I purchase my first. You can probably find out more than you ever wanted to know about motorcycles by cruising the Internet. There is almost too much info out there! :-) >3) Reccomended types of 'trainee' bikes. I'm looking for something that = will >wet my pallete for something more without tearing my head off. I'm about >6'1,220 if that helps to figure out a make/model. I'm sure you'll get lots of suggestions... but I'll throw in mine.. a Honda Nighthawk 750 (1991 and up), or an older one if you are handy. Good solid bike, low maintenance, will probably run forever. Since it is a "standard" insurance rates will be reasonable. They seem to hold their value very well.... I bought a '95 last November and sold it six months later for $100 less than I paid for it. Anyhow, that's my two cents! :-) Anita '96 GPZ1100 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 14:58:25 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA14918 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11926 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from postal.clark.net (known postal.clark.net [168.143.0.17]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA26785 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:58:15 -0400 (EDT) From: louis@XXXXXX Received: from shell.clark.net (louis@XXXXXX [168.143.0.8]) by postal.clark.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA05220 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24091 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:58:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199809031858.OAA24091@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: rookie help To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:58:14 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <3608e256.229262960@smtp.wizard.net> from "2xracers@wizard.net" at Sep 3, 98 02:44:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > Is there anything > >other than the MSF classes which seem to be booked until Y2K? > > The MSF class *is* very popular, with good reason. I've heard that > you can just show up on Friday night, and if there are any no-shows > you can take the class. Can't remember where I heard this, might not > be true! But, if you live somewhat near the NVCC Loudoun campus, it > might be worth a shot. You can come as stand-by at Alexandria, but I believe Loudoun does NOT allow stand-byes. At least that was the policy when I was being trained as an instructor there. Louis From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:00:22 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15101 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12267 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqmail01.hq.usace.army.mil (known hqmail01.hq.usace.army.mil [155.75.10.223]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26858 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hqmail01.hq.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:01:03 -0400 Message-ID: <070CAC6CBDDAD111A80E0008C7F4504229B90E@hqmail04.hecsa.usace.army.mil> From: "McCoy, Brian P HQ02" To: "'Joshua F. Canary'" Cc: "'dc'" Subject: RE: rookie help Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:57:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I've got an XT250 that you're free to use and abuse to see if you want to ride.. Located in Maryland (College Park area).. It's so beat up you couldn't possibly make it uglier.. This is probably the best resource for learning there is.. we've probably got hundreds of years and millions of miles of experiences between the whole group. You'll pretty much be able to buy/ride anything.. I'm 6'4", 220lbs and rode an old honday VF500f comfortably for over a year.. suspension was shot, but I rode it.. Depending on your budget and tastes, we can probably suggest a bike that will fit exactly the nitch you're looking to fill -----Original Message----- I'm extremely anxious to get my first bike but I have some logistical questions that I'd like some help with. 1) How have people dealt with the akward period when they don't yet own a bike but would like to learn to ride to see if it is something they would be willing to pour money into. I don't know anyone with a bike and a checkbook that would be kind/foolish enough to let me learn on it. Is there anything other than the MSF classes which seem to be booked until Y2K? 2) Can anyone reccomend a resource for me to learn more about bikes so I can make an intelligent decision when I purchase my first. 3) Reccomended types of 'trainee' bikes. I'm looking for something that will wet my pallete for something more without tearing my head off. I'm about 6'1,220 if that helps to figure out a make/model. 4) Any trusted resources where a fella can buy his first used/new bike. Thanks for the help. jfc From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:00:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15108 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12271 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA26866 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA20363; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:00:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: Alex Milenkovic cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: rookie help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I think this part is usually done by suckering a friend who rides to teach > you how. I also believe one of the listers has an old, beat up ninja (Leon > was it?) with a big fuel cell on the back (which he can remove).. and > which he keeps around for this sole purpose - teaching new folks how to > ride. That, and showing off that the mutant camel can still run! Er, Leon's ninja250 is his daily driver and a cool bike to boot. I don't think it's necessary to offend Leon simply because you haven't paid enough attention to pick this info up. Leon puts more mileage on that thing than 99.999% of riders. Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:13:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15613 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12464 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gemini.smart.net (known gemini.smart.net [206.27.242.109]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27263 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:13:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from richard (max2p196.smart.net [206.97.127.196]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA05738; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:13:05 -0400 Message-ID: <01d501bdd76e$f3b2d600$c27f61ce@richard> From: "Thomas H. Gimer" To: "Alex Milenkovic" , Subject: Re: rookie help Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:13:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 -----Original Message----- From: Alex Milenkovic To: Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 3:05 PM Subject: Re: rookie help >> 1) How have people dealt with the akward period when they don't yet own a >> bike but would like to learn to ride to see if it is something they would be >> willing to pour money into. I don't know anyone with a bike and a checkbook >> that would be kind/foolish enough to let me learn on it. Is there anything >> other than the MSF classes which seem to be booked until Y2K? > >I think this part is usually done by suckering a friend who rides to teach >you how. I also believe one of the listers has an old, beat up ninja (Leon >was it?) with a big fuel cell on the back (which he can remove).. and >which he keeps around for this sole purpose - teaching new folks how to >ride. That, and showing off that the mutant camel can still run! Umm.....you should make sure you know what you're talking about before you speak. That "beat-up" Ninja is Leon's daily transportation as well as what he rides on the endurance runs he takes part in. Perhaps your beat up VFR should serve as the DC Cycles learner bike. >Alex. >'94 VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:19:21 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15987 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12553 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (known gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27388 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) with SMTP; 3 Sep 1998 19:18:43 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA00655 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:18:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:18:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Quick Insta-Apology In-Reply-To: <01d501bdd76e$f3b2d600$c27f61ce@richard> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, wrote: > Umm.....you should make sure you know what you're talking about before you > speak. That "beat-up" Ninja is Leon's daily transportation as well as what > he rides on the endurance runs he takes part in. > > Perhaps your beat up VFR should serve as the DC Cycles learner bike. Okay. I have apparently made quite a snafu as in the span of 5 minutes I have gotten two flames. I'm sure leon's bike is wonderful, but some post I read a while back described it as this. Apparently, it was wrong, I was wrong, and I will never slander Leon's daily commute bike. I really meant no offense, and was under the impression this was an old junker that got dragged out every now and then. Now, with foot firmly in mouth, I'll go into the corner and cry. Leon, forgive me for insulting your noble steed, and I'll buy you a beer sometime. Please also note how I phrased it: > I also believe one of the listers has an old, beat up ninja (Leon > was it?) with a big fuel cell on the back (which he can remove) I attempted to make it clear that I was not sure about this. Boy, did I ever get bitten in the ass by what I thought was an innocent comment. And I dont know about the VFR as a learner bike. Too heavy and all that (grin). So. Alex. '94 VFR 750 (thoroughly toasty) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:21:25 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16067 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12584 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redmailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (known redmailwall.attws.com [206.213.111.115]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27453 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viruswall.entp.attws.com by redmailwall.nwest.mccaw.com (8.8.8/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. V8 version 2) id MAA01468; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by viruswall.entp.attws.com (8.8.8/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. V8 version 2) id MAA21397; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA12213; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:20:38 -0700 Received: from hq-msg04.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id MAA12201; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:20:36 -0700 Received: by hq-msg04.nwest.mccaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BDD735.402BE920@XXXXXX>; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:20:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: rookie help Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 12:14:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Encoding: 26 TEXT Leon's Ninja is NOT beat up and old! It has character and a snazzy paint scheme. Plus it's a blast to ride. :-) Ursulina Viteri, AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. - Washington, DC direct 202-416-6534 * Fax 202-223-9095 * Main 202-223-9222 >-----Original Message----- >From: Kirk Roy [SMTP:kirk@XXXXXX] >Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 12:00 PM >To: Alex Milenkovic >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: rookie help > >> I think this part is usually done by suckering a friend who rides to teach >> you how. I also believe one of the listers has an old, beat up ninja (Leon >> was it?) with a big fuel cell on the back (which he can remove).. and >> which he keeps around for this sole purpose - teaching new folks how to >> ride. That, and showing off that the mutant camel can still run! > >Er, Leon's ninja250 is his daily driver and a cool bike to boot. I don't >think it's necessary to offend Leon simply because you haven't paid enough >attention to pick this info up. Leon puts more mileage on that thing than >99.999% of riders. > >Kirk > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:23:57 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16096 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:23:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA12632 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27517 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:25:19 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:25:08 -0400 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: canary@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: rookie help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline The NOVA campus toward Springfield, I think on Duke Street, usually isn't = that bad. Your best bet to get in is to call in March or April. They = usually don't fill up for the rest of the year until June. It's a nice = weekend class and you learn a lot. As for what bike, I don't really know = since I'm kinda new at this also, but Coleman PowerSport was real good to = me and Springfield Cycle Sport has been good to me also. Hope that helps. Scooter >>> "Joshua F. Canary" 09/03/98 02:16PM >>> I'm extremely anxious to get my first bike but I have some logistical questions that I'd like some help with. 1) How have people dealt with the akward period when they don't yet own a bike but would like to learn to ride to see if it is something they would = be willing to pour money into. I don't know anyone with a bike and a = checkbook that would be kind/foolish enough to let me learn on it. Is there anything other than the MSF classes which seem to be booked until Y2K? 2) Can anyone reccomend a resource for me to learn more about bikes so I = can make an intelligent decision when I purchase my first. 3) Reccomended types of 'trainee' bikes. I'm looking for something that = will wet my pallete for something more without tearing my head off. I'm about 6'1,220 if that helps to figure out a make/model. 4) Any trusted resources where a fella can buy his first used/new bike. Thanks for the help. jfc From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:27:56 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16484 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA13087 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:27:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27606 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 277; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:26:54 -0400 Message-ID: <35EEEDA1.81C8DC89@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:27:29 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Milenkovic CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: rookie help References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alex Milenkovic wrote: > > I also believe one of the listers has an old, beat up ninja (Leon > was it?) with a big fuel cell on the back (which he can remove).. and > which he keeps around for this sole purpose - teaching new folks how to > ride. That, and showing off that the mutant camel can still run! Well, I doubt that's the *sole* reason he keeps the Ninja 250 around. He says it's great to ride long distances on, or something. Sent me an email yesterday about riding it to Nebraska this week. What a nut. I envy him. :) Horkster Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:29:57 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16604 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA13652 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27660 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:29:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:30:53 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:30:15 -0400 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: canary@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: rookie help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline You're right Anita. As long as your are registered for a class on a LATER = date, you can show up on Friday night and wait. They put your name on a = list as first come first serve and then if someone doesn't show, they let = the people on the list participate. But, you have to have registered for = a future class. If you get in earlier, they cancel your later registration= . Scooter >>> Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> 09/03/98 02:44PM >>> On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 14:16:05 -0400, "Joshua F. Canary" wrote: > Is there anything >other than the MSF classes which seem to be booked until Y2K? The MSF class *is* very popular, with good reason. I've heard that you can just show up on Friday night, and if there are any no-shows you can take the class. Can't remember where I heard this, might not be true! But, if you live somewhat near the NVCC Loudoun campus, it might be worth a shot. Anita '96 GPZ1100 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:38:40 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17091 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:38:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14217 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from meretrix.com (known dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA28117 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16954 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:37:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by PENTAGON-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:36:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'Wes Fleming'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: VA motorcycle dealer participation Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:35:52 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Wes, you haven't been on the list very long have you? Some of the dealers around here are NEVER going to give you a better price no matter how much stuff you have bought from them. YMMV. Glenn > I've never minded paying a slightly higher price at a local dealer for a > few reasons... > stimulates the local economy (MY economy!) > helps develop a relationship with the local dealership > pretty much guarantees you have somebody to complain to in person > (if needed) > everybody's gotta make a living > > Besides, after a while you become known as a regular (and good, and happy, > and ...) customer and they are more willing to cut you a deal. Sure, you > might only be buying a jacket or a helmet now, but imagine in 3 years when > you want that hot new bike and the dealer remembers that you've been > buying > your stuff there for years... > > I think having a dealer reading the list would only help him/her/them. My > advice would be to lurk, however, and not chime in on much -- thereby > reducing the risk of getting flamed. Contact on the dealer's part would > probably be better off-list...that would also keep our little flame-fests > down to a manageable size, don't you think? A dealer reading the list > would know what kinds of things we look for in a dealer -- and what kinds > of things we hate! > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:45:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17335 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14875 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:44:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known [199.122.55.11] [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA28358 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:44:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:45:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'bike.dealer@XXXXXX'" , "'McCoy, Brian P HQ02'" Cc: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:45:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain ditto. > ---------- > From: McCoy, Brian P HQ02[SMTP:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 12:48 PM > To: 'bike.dealer@XXXXXX' > Cc: 'dc' > > No problems here so long as you don't advertise... > > -----Original Message----- > From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 12:31 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: > > Anyone object to a Virginia motorcycle dealer listening (and > occasionally > chiming) in on your discussions? > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet > e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:55:55 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17824 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15027 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (known imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA28868 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:55:36 -0400 (EDT) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id WSSCa11275 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:54:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:54:59 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Nebraska (was Re: rookie help) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >Sent me an email yesterday about riding it (ninja 250) to Nebraska this week. Ooh, Nebraska! The panhandle part of that state has some great riding. The roads are scenic and almost completely empty. Don't forget to detour to Alliance to see Carhenge. Colleen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 15:58:14 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18188 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15065 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:58:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA28979 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:58:03 -0400 (EDT) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id WVEAa25247 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:57:28 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: MSF standby (Re: rookie help) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 At the PG training center you can get in if you are there Thursday evening and there are some no-shows. Call the MSF people, who should be able to tell you how many people are enrolled in each class. That can give you a good idea which class to try to crash. Colleen >> you can take the class. Can't remember where I heard this, might not >> be true! But, if you live somewhat near the NVCC Loudoun campus, it >> might be worth a shot. > >You can come as stand-by at Alexandria, but I believe Loudoun does NOT >allow stand-byes. At least that was the policy when I was being >trained as an instructor there. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 17:06:22 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21310 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA22846 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netgate.anent.com (known netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01715 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from craig ([208.195.115.46] (may be forged)) by netgate.anent.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA00805 for ; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 17:06:20 -0400 Received: by craig with Microsoft Mail id <01BDD75C.6AE1FC00@craig>; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:00:56 -0400 Message-ID: <01BDD75C.6AE1FC00@craig> From: Craig Johnston To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Accident. Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:11:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well it appears another of the brethren has gone down ;~( Tonight on Rt. 621 outside Arcola a Red Honda sport bike evidently ran = through the stop sign at the intersection of Rt. 621 & Brambleton park = Rd.... The rider hit a van broadside knocking it over and into the ditch on the = other side of the road...... Was reported to have said to the paramedic "don't scratch my bike"...... Sounds as though he was in shock.....Let's say a prayer for the guy and = hope he is going to be O.K. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 17:15:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21790 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA23208 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from x5.boston.juno.com (known x5.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.23]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02199 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jeep.guy@XXXXXX) by x5.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DM9H97KA; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 17:15:48 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Funny (to me, anyway) Message-ID: <19980902.030529.7119.0.jeep.guy@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5 From: jeep.guy@XXXXXX (Erik von Darkmoor) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 17:15:48 EDT I rode for a few miles today alongside a Vienna (motorcycle) police officer. His license plate frame read: "Smile, I could be behind you!" He told me at a stoplight that a lot of the motor guys have those frames. He also complimented me on the Vulcan Classic I was riding. He said he wished the city would buy them for the squad. ;-) I said, "Nah, if you rode one of these you'd never be able to catch me on my ZX... ;-) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 17:41:52 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA22948 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24214 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02987 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:41:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id PIRUa16074; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <76673b3c.35ef0c8d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:39:25 EDT To: alexm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: R1 or GSXR750 - neither Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 In a message dated 98-09-03 11:53:05 EDT, alexm@XXXXXX writes: << Still, interesting. What do you find more comfortable about it? What model vfr? >> 86-VFR-750 Seat is more comfortable (fatter), bars are at a more comfortable angle (for me), and pegs require less leg straightening on long trips. Ciao, fred From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 17:45:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23224 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:45:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24756 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA03076 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:45:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 17:47:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 17:46:59 -0400 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jeep.guy@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Funny (to me, anyway) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I would list that one in the funny category. Especially the comment about = the ZX. :-) Scooter >>> Erik von Darkmoor 09/03/98 05:15PM >>> I rode for a few miles today alongside a Vienna (motorcycle) police officer. His license plate frame read: "Smile, I could be behind you!" He told me at a stoplight that a lot of the motor guys have those frames. He also complimented me on the Vulcan Classic I was riding. He said he wished the city would buy them for the squad. ;-) I said, "Nah, if you rode one of these you'd never be able to catch me on my ZX... ;-) =20 _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com=20 Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 17:50:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23341 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:50:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24876 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (known imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA03184 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:50:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id RKWWa08191; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <88825bd6.35ef0e28@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:46:16 EDT To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 <> Not me. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 18:11:45 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA24219 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA28916 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pm06sm.pmm.mci.net (known pm06sm.pmm.mci.net [208.159.126.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA03979 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (usr8-dialup17.mix2.Boston.mci.net) by PM06SM.PMM.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-10 #U2935) with SMTP id <0EYQ00EA8AYBX3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:11:00 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 18:07:59 -0700 From: "Jon S." Subject: Re: Cycles USA courtesies & other shops To: DC Cycles Message-id: <00d201bdd7a0$763d25e0$214737a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Priority: 3 Thomas wrote: >My only complaint with Cycles USA has been with the service department, who >told me I had to make an appointment to have a tire (to be purchased from >them) mounted and the earliest opportunity for that was 3 days later. >Granted they must have been pretty busy, but hey, it's just a tire mount (.5 >hour). Yeah, I grew up 5 min. from Cycles USA and their service dept. has been slow(understatement) for as long as I can remember. CAD has been very good to me and they always give me a good price. True, they don't have a big inventory, but I always make sure to give them a call when I'm looking for something specific. I personally like Ellicott City Motorsports. Everyone I've delt with there has been more than willing to help me with whatever I wanted and will match/beat anyone's price. It's a small shop, but very friendly. They also seem to carry a lot of parts for Yamaha's, which is a plus for me, that and they're 10 min. from my house. Jon From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 18:41:36 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25612 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:41:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA00605 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (known dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA06072 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA21726; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:40:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv3-17.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.81) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021624; Thu Sep 3 17:40:11 1998 Message-ID: <35EF52F2.7AFC@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:39:46 -0700 From: Ken Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: anything on Sunday or Monday ? References: <35EEA65F.1947@ix.netcom.com> <35EEFB8A.9E9DE013@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > > Ken, > > I might be able to make the Sunday CAMS ride, it'll be my first > ride with those guys. Still interested in a ride on the Concours? > I'll even put the stock shield back on, I've got it around here > somewhere... :) > I wouldn't turn down the chance to check out a Sportster... :) > Dale, guys, Yeah, the CAMS ride sounds great, I am plannning on making it, will probably leave here by 7am to het to the Silver Diner on time, especially since I am not sure where it is. I'll just run East on 50 from Rt 28 and hopefully find it from there. Looking forward to seeing everybody again. Especially since the lates forecast is predicting absolutely gorgeous riding weather. Ride Safe, See ya on Sunday. -- Ken S. HDKnight 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 18:42:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA25689 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:42:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA00619 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (known dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA06087 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA21930; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:42:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv3-17.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.81) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021833; Thu Sep 3 17:42:05 1998 Message-ID: <35EF536C.2A1E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:41:48 -0700 From: Ken Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: CAMS Ride Sunday, Sept 6 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > > Anita and I will be going. Hope to see some of you folks there!!! :-) > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > From: "Weinstein, John, Dr, NSS" > Subject: CAMS ride 9/6 (sunday) > Date sent: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 16:42:00 -0400 > > The ride will be ~100-125 mi. some time ago, a few folks asked if we > could do shorter rides so new riders, wives, girl friends, small farm > animals, etc could attend. > ** meet at the fairfax silver diner (west ox road off rt 50, near > fair oaks mall) at 0830 for breakfast. > ** ride departs 1000 sharp (ha ha ha ha) Looking forward to it, weather should be great, New rear tire on the bike ;), Ready to Roll!! Hope to see everyone there....All I have to do is find the place hehe;) -- Ken S. HDKnight 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 18:48:45 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26072 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA01293 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:48:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (known dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA06253 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA22429; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:48:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv3-17.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.81) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma022374; Thu Sep 3 17:46:50 1998 Message-ID: <35EF5480.72A2@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 19:46:24 -0700 From: Ken Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: CAMS Ride Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys, Is the Silver Diner North or South off Rt 50 on W. Old Ox Rd? -- Ken S. HDKnight 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 19:23:16 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27652 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA01920 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (known dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA06973 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 19:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA26761; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 18:22:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv3-17.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.81) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma026653; Thu Sep 3 18:22:03 1998 Message-ID: <35EF5CC5.2AD0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:21:41 -0700 From: Ken Reply-To: shephar1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04C-NC320 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: anything on Sunday or Monday ? References: <35EEA65F.1947@ix.netcom.com> <35EEFB8A.9E9DE013@tidalwave.net> <35EF52F2.7AFC@ix.netcom.com> <360d2085.245185186@smtp.wizard.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anita Lauro wrote: > Ken - > > What direction will you be coming from? If you are doing 15S to 7E to > 28S you can hook up with me and Robert (Vanslyke?). We were going to > meet up at the Burger King in Sterling (I think you were there before) > around 8 am. I know where the Silver Diner is, so I should be able to > lead the way! :-) > > Let me know if you are interested! See you on Sunday either way. :-) > > Anita Hi Anita, That sounds great, I can easily meet you guys there at 8am. Was that the Burger King on the North side of Rt 7 just East of Rt 28. Ive been using the Greenway/Toll Road to go to work so much , I have lost all sense of Rt 7 anymore. -- Ken S. HDKnight 1996 XLH1200 Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 20:21:14 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00393 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02747 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (known saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08263 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:21:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (known radagast.wizard.net [206.161.15.5]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA29066 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tc2-s18.wizard.net (tc2-s18.wizard.net [206.161.15.94]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA21649; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:20:51 -0400 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: shephar1@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: anything on Sunday or Monday ? Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:25:14 -0400 Message-ID: <360e3246.249729995@smtp.wizard.net> References: <35EEA65F.1947@ix.netcom.com> <35EEFB8A.9E9DE013@tidalwave.net> <35EF52F2.7AFC@ix.netcom.com> <360d2085.245185186@smtp.wizard.net> <35EF5CC5.2AD0@ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <35EF5CC5.2AD0@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:21:41 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Anita, That sounds great, I can easily meet you guys there at 8am.=20 >Was that the Burger King on the North side of Rt 7 just East of Rt 28.=20 >Ive been using the Greenway/Toll Road to go to work so much , I have >lost all sense of Rt 7 anymore. Yep, that would be the correct Burger King. Once you go past Route 28 (heading east on 7) you will wind up doing a u-turn at the second traffic light in order to get to the Burger King. It is on the north side of Rte 7. Anyone else heading in from the west, or the Sterling area, is welcome to meet up there. I'd like to leave around 8 am or so. Anita From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 20:39:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01198 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02901 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:38:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08798 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-112-43.s43.tnt4.ann.erols.com [207.172.112.43]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23224; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:38:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <35EF369B.3150A886@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:38:51 -0400 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shephar1@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: CAMS Ride References: <35EF5480.72A2@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit South..about three or four stop lights down on the left... Ken wrote: > > Hey guys, > > Is the Silver Diner North or South off Rt 50 on W. Old Ox Rd? > -- > Ken S. > HDKnight > 1996 XLH1200 > Inwood, WV -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 20:41:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01212 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02929 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08872 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from demon (unverified [207.226.128.48]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.5) with SMTP id ; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:38:27 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Joshua F. Canary" , "cycles" Subject: RE: rookie help Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:37:59 -0400 Message-ID: <004701bdd79c$447db140$010000c0@demon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <001d01bdd767$00e9af40$0ff075a5@ps300test.wsmg> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > I'm extremely anxious to get my first bike but I have some logistical > questions that I'd like some help with. > > 1) How have people dealt with the akward period when they don't yet own a > bike but would like to learn to ride to see if it is something > they would be > willing to pour money into. I don't know anyone with a bike and a > checkbook > that would be kind/foolish enough to let me learn on it. Is there anything > other than the MSF classes which seem to be booked until Y2K? That's about it. If you are in Md, try Va, and vice versa. Other state might have more openings. The other possibility is to buy a cheap dirt bike, and ride off road until taking the MSF course. > 2) Can anyone reccomend a resource for me to learn more about > bikes so I can > make an intelligent decision when I purchase my first. Right here. You'll get better answers here than at a dealer or in most moto-mags. You might have some luck with Motorcycle Consumer News, but that's about it. And forget about the british bike mags. Most of the starter bikes they recommend aren't available in the US. > 3) Reccomended types of 'trainee' bikes. I'm looking for > something that will > wet my pallete for something more without tearing my head off. I'm about > 6'1,220 if that helps to figure out a make/model. To be honest, anything (almost:) can be used as a trainee bike. I know one fella who bought a CBR900RR for his first bike. Kinda stupid, but he hasn't killed himself in the past four months. I learned on a Kawasaki Eliminator (for sale if you want it) that eventually got to feel too small for using 200 miles per week (plus about 300+ on the weekends) for all 6'1" 270 lbs of me. But you do learn to tap the shifter. The standard response is: just about any UJM (universal japanese motorcycle). There's probably even some listers with good starter bikes for sale. Just don't buy new. Within six months (or 12, depending on your mileage) I almost guarantee you'll get tired of the bike. > 4) Any trusted resources where a fella can buy his first used/new bike. Right here off the list is your best bet. Washington Post ads on Sat. and Sun. are full of ads (mostly overpriced, BTW). Steer clear of dealers. They need really high profit margins. And since you just want some cheap wreck anyway, you can get by fine with a $1000 bike (the dealer would likely charge you $2000) Keep an eye on the paper over the next two weeks or so. With labor day coming up, there should be tons of ads. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 20:41:39 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01223 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02934 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08877 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from demon (unverified [207.226.128.48]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.5) with SMTP id ; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:38:29 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Wes Fleming" , Subject: RE: VA motorcycle dealer participation Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:38:13 -0400 Message-ID: <004801bdd79c$4c72bda0$010000c0@demon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <199809031820.OAA01601@smtp1.erols.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > I've never minded paying a slightly higher price at a local dealer for a > few reasons... > stimulates the local economy (MY economy!) > helps develop a relationship with the local dealership > pretty much guarantees you have somebody to complain to in > person (if needed) > everybody's gotta make a living I'm staying out of it this time... ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 20:41:40 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01221 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02935 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08879 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from demon (unverified [207.226.128.48]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.5) with SMTP id ; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:38:31 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, "Joshua F. Canary" Cc: "cycles" Subject: RE: rookie help Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:38:14 -0400 Message-ID: <004901bdd79c$4d330060$010000c0@demon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <3608e256.229262960@smtp.wizard.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > The MSF class *is* very popular, with good reason. I've heard that > you can just show up on Friday night, and if there are any no-shows > you can take the class. Can't remember where I heard this, might not > be true! But, if you live somewhat near the NVCC Loudoun campus, it > might be worth a shot. Hell, in Waldorf, MD, I think you can show up Friday night and TEACH:) > >2) Can anyone reccomend a resource for me to learn more about > bikes so I can > >make an intelligent decision when I purchase my first. > > You can probably find out more than you ever wanted to know about > motorcycles by cruising the Internet. There is almost too much info > out there! :-) Be warned though: many of the sources are as biased as the moto-mags. Witness: www.motorcycle.com. Owned by Bartel's HD, isn't it? Then there is wreck.moto, one of the worst newsgroups out there. Lots of trash talk by poseur bikers of various sorts. Nobody who rides seriously has as much time to post as some of those people. > I'm sure you'll get lots of suggestions... but I'll throw in mine.. a > Honda Nighthawk 750 (1991 and up), or an older one if you are handy. > Good solid bike, low maintenance, will probably run forever. Since it > is a "standard" insurance rates will be reasonable. They seem to hold > their value very well.... I bought a '95 last November and sold it six > months later for $100 less than I paid for it. Anyhow, that's my two > cents! :-) I'll agree here. And I'll even say that if someone is a neophyte mechanic, the Nighthawk 650 S might be even better (no chain to lube/adjust). > Anita > '96 GPZ1100 A beginner bike if ever there was one ;) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 20:41:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01227 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA02941 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA08884 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from demon (unverified [207.226.128.48]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.5) with SMTP id ; Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:38:32 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Alex Milenkovic" , Subject: RE: rookie help Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:38:16 -0400 Message-ID: <004a01bdd79c$4e7b10c0$010000c0@demon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > Check out www.motorcycle.com, www.bikenet.com, www.mcnews.com, and > TAKE THE MSF course. mcnews is okay, but only a bare handful of articles. The used bike value guide is a good resource however. Gotta check out bikenet. motorcycle.com is as bad as Cycle World/Motorcyclist/Sport Rider. At least it's free. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 20:51:08 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA01784 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:51:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA03040 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:51:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (known radagast.wizard.net [206.161.15.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA09076 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:51:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tc2-s18.wizard.net (tc2-s18.wizard.net [206.161.15.94]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA23320; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:51:12 -0400 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: "George Howell" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: rookie help Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 20:55:34 -0400 Message-ID: <36103940.251517009@smtp.wizard.net> References: <004901bdd79c$4d330060$010000c0@demon> In-Reply-To: <004901bdd79c$4d330060$010000c0@demon> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:38:14 -0400, "George Howell" wrote: >> '96 GPZ1100 > >A beginner bike if ever there was one ;) Hey... it's my 3rd bike! And, as much as I like it, I probably should have stuck to my Nighthawk for a while longer. It was just too good of a deal to pass up! How's that for honesty? :-) Anita (7,200+ miles since 11/97 and still a beginner!) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 22:24:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05841 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA04168 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns2.wheatintl.com (known [38.218.78.34] [38.218.78.34]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA10893 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by ns2.wheatintl.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) id WAA12775; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-70-89.s89.tnt11.brd.erols.com(207.172.70.89) by ns2 via smap (V2.0) id xmaa12770; Thu, 3 Sep 98 22:23:40 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980903221555.0073c5f4@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:24:10 -0400 To: Craig Johnston , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Mike T Subject: Re: Accident. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:11 PM 8/31/98 -0400, Craig Johnston wrote: >The rider hit a van broadside knocking it over and into the ditch on the other side of the road...... He knocked the Van into the ditch, or his bike? Hope he's ok. Was he wearing shorts and a t-shirt? Just curious..... ______________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org SYMPTOM: Floor blurred. FAULT: You are looking through bottom of empty glass. ACTION: Get someone to buy you another beer. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 22:24:54 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05847 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA04165 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns2.wheatintl.com (known [38.218.78.34] [38.218.78.34]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA10892 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by ns2.wheatintl.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) id WAA12773; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-70-89.s89.tnt11.brd.erols.com(207.172.70.89) by ns2 via smap (V2.0) id xma012770; Thu, 3 Sep 98 22:23:39 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980903221343.0073c5f4@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:24:09 -0400 To: "George Howell" , "Joshua F. Canary" , "cycles" From: Mike T Subject: RE: rookie help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I like all of your advice George, except the part about buying a cheap wreck. If you go on stats, MSF instructs that the first 5 months of riding any bike are the most dangerous for you, whether you have 20 years under your belt or no years. I would sit on a bunch of different styles of bikes to find one thats comfortable and in my price range, and go ahead and buy what you think you want. Of course, if you dont know if you will even like motorcycling, then by all means by a cheap used UJM. Thats actually what I did, but its also the bike I wanted :-) Cheers. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 3 22:24:54 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05848 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA04169 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns2.wheatintl.com (known [38.218.78.34] [38.218.78.34]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA10894 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by ns2.wheatintl.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) id WAA12781; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 22:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-70-89.s89.tnt11.brd.erols.com(207.172.70.89) by ns2 via smap (V2.0) id xmad12770; Thu, 3 Sep 98 22:23:43 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980903222402.00e5abbc@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 22:24:13 -0400 To: shephar1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: RE: CAMS Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" South. At the intersection of Fair Lakes and West Ox. If you get lost, take 50 to Fair Lakes Parkway (towards Springfield) then hang a left at the big intersection. At 07:46 PM 9/3/98 -0700, Ken wrote: >Hey guys, > >Is the Silver Diner North or South off Rt 50 on W. Old Ox Rd? >-- > Ken S. > HDKnight > 1996 XLH1200 > Inwood, WV > ______________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org SYMPTOM: Floor blurred. FAULT: You are looking through bottom of empty glass. ACTION: Get someone to buy you another beer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 3 23:52:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA09661 for ; Thu,