From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 1 16:44:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g81KiwSi031019; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:44:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g81KitdM031012; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:44:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 16:44:37 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Asleep at the bars To: "Bruhl, George LT" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Message-id: <3D727C35.C437DE4E@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: "Bruhl, George LT" wrote: > > I actually fell asleep while riding out in the pan handle of Oklahoma one. > I think I went about 100 yds or so, WOKE UP, pulled over and found a soft > patch of ground for 4 or 5 hours. I wouldn't have believed it possible... > but I would imagine the Iron butts go thru that a lot. We don't fall asleep while riding if that's what you meant. That is pretty much a self-correcting problem...and very bad news. You did the right thing by getting off the road and sleeping right then. That's called the Iron Butt Hotel. Nice rates, but some of the amenities can be a little lacking. Horkster -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 1 16:52:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g81KqBSi031085; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:52:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g81KqBeH031077; Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:52:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020901205150.68689.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 13:51:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom De Subject: Re: Helmet purchase - best pricing? To: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020831065250.R45002-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Give www.helmetharbor.com, a try I've had good experiance with them. Tom de' 98 VTR --- Wayne Edelen wrote: > After months of searching, I think I'm finally ready > to replace my current > helmet :-) Does anyone know where to get the best > price on Arai? Most of > the online places have stopped selling them, so I'm > stuck looking locally. > > I checked Battley, they want $430 for a plain-jane > solid color (!). I'm > going to check out Cycles USA pricing this weekend. > > Any others? > > -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 2 01:27:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g825RoSi000996; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 01:27:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g825RmFq000989; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 01:27:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: Helmet purchase - best pricing? Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 01:30:43 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c25241$e28f28e0$1b06030a@5Q39911> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020831065250.R45002-100000@magoo.noid.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I've gotten my last two helmets from: http://catalog.kiernanracing.com Never had a problem. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Wayne Edelen [mailto:wayne@XXXXXX] Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 10:18 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Helmet purchase - best pricing? After months of searching, I think I'm finally ready to replace my current helmet :-) Does anyone know where to get the best price on Arai? Most of the online places have stopped selling them, so I'm stuck looking locally. I checked Battley, they want $430 for a plain-jane solid color (!). I'm going to check out Cycles USA pricing this weekend. Any others? -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 2 10:28:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g82ES0Si003729; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 10:28:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g82ERwPb003719; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 10:27:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.98.146.78] From: "Ken L" To: wayne@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Helmet purchase - best pricing? Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 10:26:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2002 14:26:51.0260 (UTC) FILETIME=[C74FF3C0:01C2528C] Arai no lonnger allows dealers to sell models within a certain age limit on the web. You can however find 1 year old and older models on eBay. I recently bought a 1 year old RX7 from a reputable dealer in Seatlle, WA---$400 including shipping...cherry condition! KML >From: Wayne Edelen >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Helmet purchase - best pricing? >Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 07:17:38 -0700 (PDT) > >After months of searching, I think I'm finally ready to replace my current >helmet :-) Does anyone know where to get the best price on Arai? Most of >the online places have stopped selling them, so I'm stuck looking locally. > >I checked Battley, they want $430 for a plain-jane solid color (!). I'm >going to check out Cycles USA pricing this weekend. > >Any others? > >-- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 2 21:24:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g831OISi006897; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 21:24:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g831OFWk006890; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 21:24:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 21:26:15 -0400 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: "R6 Group Ride Part II" Message-ID: <657C3EE3.06E895C8.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all we are in the process of putting another group ride. The tentative date is Saturday 9/7. The invite is open to everyone. We all had a blast the last time out. So, we are to putting together another ride before it gets too cold. The Route; we plan on riding out to 211 and rt 33. It should be a lot of fun. I know there have been a lot of talk of people buying R6's over the summer and it would be nice to see ya come out. So, let me know who is interested. -Mark From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 2 23:15:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g833FwSi007425; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:15:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g833Fvg6007415; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:15:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <072801c252f8$2244daa0$fb745b0c@dz7wc01> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: Subject: Crossed my path Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2002 23:15:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 o For the m'cross inclined, interesting numbers among the fingerwagging -- A Motor Sport Takes Off, Leaving a Trail of Broken Bones http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/02/national/02MOTO.html (requires free signin) o And if she wins, licensed/MSF'd or not there'll be huge expectations for MC support -- Dole urges students to get involved http://www.heraldsun.com/nationworld/elections/16-262156.html Bill S./DC 99 VN750 > Have masqueraded as a Harley Join the AMA. Help support my riding fun From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 06:05:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83A50Si009591; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 06:05:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83A4x7k009574; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 06:04:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: STmaven@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: "R6 Group Ride Part II" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 06:02:44 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <657C3EE3.06E895C8.001912B6@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <657C3EE3.06E895C8.001912B6@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209030602440W.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Too cold? Oh, you mean like when it's snowing or sleeting. Sorry, no R6. It's Tuesday morning, nice and cool, it's time to get a windshield and backrest. These old bones can't handle no windshield :-) Carl On Monday 02 September 2002 21:26, STmaven@XXXXXX wrote: > Hi all we are in the process of putting another group ride. The tentative > date is Saturday 9/7. The invite is open to everyone. We all had a blast > the last time out. So, we are to putting together another ride before it > gets too cold. The Route; we plan on riding out to 211 and rt 33. It > should be a lot of fun. I know there have been a lot of talk of people > buying R6's over the summer and it would be nice to see ya come out. So, > let me know who is interested. > > -Mark -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 08:10:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83CAaSi010294; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:10:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83CAZ39010284; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:10:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'jmstrang@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: HD as Fashion accessories Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:10:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" "Distressed" HD's used to be called rats, well any "distressed" bike was called a rat. Triumphs, Norton's, The Big4... and you tended to see more out on the West Coast or the Southwest, as the weather allowed riders to ride year round, or at worst 10 months out of the year. Those bikes weren't really distressed, they were weathered. Some folks like that look. And you could probably guarantee those rat bikes weren't stalked and ripped off too often. It's like beater trucks or junker cars, they run, they're cheap (used to be) and the owners can get their knees in the breeze without all the cosmetic fuss. I believe there are even web sites dedicated to rat bikes. It's a sub-culture. As for HD, couldn't care less, I've been on Triumphs and Beemer's since the mid 70's. I don't ride British anymore, just good old German engineering, the ring of the Ruhr and all of that. As for M/C's in general as fashion accessories -- all makes could come under that caveat, hey I bought my first bike in 72 (a Yamaha 360 enduro) to be "cool", Dad wasn't too impressed when at 16 I came ring-dinging up to the house on that... but I was working at Fennell Brothers Mobile at 7-Corners and making BIG money for a high schooler, there wasn't a whole lot he could say... but he did anyway! Seeing how he and Grand pappy were both HD Dresser riders (Shriners) maybe he laid off of me a little, but only a little. Oh, and anyone who doesn't think the Shriner's precision MC drill teams aren't posers.... but they can ride andthey are unbelievably adept at imbibement too! I've let too much information out of the bag on this one. >Now that you can pay big money for "distressed" Harleys (just like jeans and >furniture)....it's stopped being funny and started being sad. gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 08:54:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83CsuSi010535; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:54:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83Cstav010527; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:54:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <40.234058b8.2aa60b16@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:54:46 EDT Subject: Re: Asleep at the bars To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/30/2002 8:29:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, GBruhl@XXXXXX writes: > I actually fell asleep while riding out in the pan handle of Oklahoma > I wouldn't have believed it possible... Been there done that, scares the crap out of ya dont it? The one I remember is suddenly finding myself on the far side of a town, without any memory of going through it. Pulled my ass off and rested a bit. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 09:00:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83D0iSi010729; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:00:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83D0h4e010721; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:00:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <24.2ae9b078.2aa60c73@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:00:35 EDT Subject: Re:It is a testosterone thang To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/30/2002 9:21:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > Okay, but have you ever made a *babe* with Honda/Kawasaki/Suzuki/Yamaha > tattooed > on their ass? Not that I can think of, but worth checking out. And that job is easy if the babe is on a sportbike. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 09:13:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83DDUSi010831; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:13:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83DDT8j010821; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:13:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <6c.21ba4044.2aa60f6c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:13:16 EDT Subject: Re: Asleep at the bars To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/30/2002 2:24:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, motorcycle@XXXXXX writes: > yea one time I was leaving a young lady's house at 7 am Leaving the apartment of a young woman who no one knew I was involved with (Not gonna explain, but long before I was married) at about 2 or 3am, bike parked in an enclosed "courtyard" sort of area surrounded by other apartments, due to an electrical fault the bikes alarm went off and there was no way to turn it off. Now that will wake your ass up! John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 09:15:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83DFwSi010870; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:15:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83DFvjB010861; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:15:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <105.1b40f811.2aa60ffc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:15:40 EDT Subject: Re: Asleep at the bars To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 8/30/2002 3:29:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: > I'm back on the hunt for D220s. casporttouring can't seem to get my front > 220 for me, and chapparal doesn't carry them. Neither does AZ > Motorsports. Still looking. Tread pretty low. I am beginning to float in the same boat (rear) Let me know where you find it. Thanks John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 09:49:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83DnrSi011067; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:49:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83DnqkN011060; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:49:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:53:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: mmmm... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Weather today is almost perfect. Had a good ride in, trafic was fairly well behaved. Rode yesterday too - was overcast, but dry. Did the Arlington, Northwest up the MD side of the Potomac, Cross at White's Ferry, and back on the Virginia side ride again. Had my wife with me on the back. We're discovering that, for her anyhow, pillion on the VFR isn't very comfortable. We stopped at the ferry and grabbed some food. There seemed to be plenty of other bikers making short stops there. Talked to a couple of them and then watched a whole crew of HD riders, flying their colors, ride by. This ride isn't /that/ exciting -- way too much "big" road to cover before getting to more "fun" road, but I guess that goes with living in this area. No idea on milage -- am still waiting on AZ motorsports to send me the speedo cable link part to repair that. Am finding that not having a working speedo means one less distraction to have to look at however. Yesterday was the first trial of the new Autocom intercom system. Didn't get it bike mounted, just, for now, stuck it into the tank bag. It was good to have, good to be able to know when it was time for a break, and such. The microphone audio seems a bit low -- need to futz around a bit and see if I can improve it. Tried it with a radio (2m ham) on the way to work this morning - got a similar "low audio" report from another station. Anyone else ride today? -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 09:56:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83DuGSi011126; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:56:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83DuGqw011118; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:56:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 06:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: mmmm... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020903065030.D75165-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Daniel H. Brown wrote: > Rode yesterday too - was overcast, but dry. Did the Arlington, Northwest > up the MD side of the Potomac, Cross at White's Ferry, and back on the > Virginia side ride again. Had my wife with me on the back. We're > discovering that, for her anyhow, pillion on the VFR isn't very > comfortable. We stopped at the ferry and grabbed some food. There seemed > to be plenty of other bikers making short stops there. Talked to a couple Nice to meet you, Dan. I'm the dude in the black leathers with the blue/black Busa :-) I was riding with 2 of my HD riding friends ('02 Road King and '02 Dyna Sport). > of them and then watched a whole crew of HD riders, flying their colors, Oh man, that was funny. Those guys thought they were the baddest mofo's on the road :-) > ride by. This ride isn't /that/ exciting -- way too much "big" road to > cover before getting to more "fun" road, but I guess that goes with living > in this area. No idea on milage -- am still waiting on AZ motorsports to Yeah, not my idea of great riding in that area. All of the roads are like washboards and way too straight :-) (at least the route my friend wanted to take) > Anyone else ride today? No, but the day is still young. Sitting here at home, well, working :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 10:01:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83E1mSi011203; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:01:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83E1m0V011193; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:01:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020903140141.79374.qmail@web40210.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 07:01:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: mmmm... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Daniel H. Brown" wrote: > > Weather today is almost perfect. Had a good ride in, trafic was fairly > well behaved. It was nice and cool riding in this morning (about 6 am). Supposed to go up to about 87 today if I recall right, but the highs will head down as the week progresses. Once I'm sure the real hot days are definitely over, I can do my annual Aerostich wash. > Anyone else ride today? I did, and I saw about 3 bikes going the other way. Usually I only see one. (a Motorcycle police officer) Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 10:02:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83E2sSi011233; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:02:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83E2sxZ011227; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:02:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:06:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: mmmm... In-Reply-To: <20020903065030.D75165-100000@magoo.noid.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Wayne Edelen wrote: > Nice to meet you, Dan. I'm the dude in the black leathers with the > blue/black Busa :-) I was riding with 2 of my HD riding friends ('02 > Road King and '02 Dyna Sport). I was a-wondering. Nice to meet you too! We should come up with a secret handshake or a patch we all could wear or something ;-) I do, actually, have a Denizens of Doom "Geeky" sticker on the back fender, but that is a remnant from the previous owner. > > of them and then watched a whole crew of HD riders, flying their colors, > > Oh man, that was funny. Those guys thought they were the baddest mofo's > on the road :-) I was especially impressed by the trike that was tailing the rest of the crew, none the less, I decided not to join them at the front of the ferry on the ride over. They headed north on VA 15, I headed south. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 10:06:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83E6YSi011282; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:06:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83E6Ya8011277; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:06:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020903100440.022d42b0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 10:06:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: mmmm... In-Reply-To: <20020903140141.79374.qmail@web40210.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:01 AM 9/3/2002, Louis F. Caplan wrote: > > Anyone else ride today? > >I did, and I saw about 3 bikes going the other way. Usually I only see one. >(a Motorcycle police officer) I am screwed for another week. On Friday's ride home, I noticed that my VA inspection expired in May! With everything going on in May (wedding / honeymoon) it slipped my mind. Have to wait for my new tires to arrive before I venture out to an inspection station....Doh! ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 10:15:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83EFYSi011369; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:15:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83EFX4J011359; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:15:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "Daniel H. Brown" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: mmmm... Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:13:16 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090310131615.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 03 September 2002 09:53, Daniel H. Brown wrote: > Anyone else ride today? > The wife and I rode around the neighborhood (Dale City). She's still learning. This is the second time she's been on the road so help and directions were required. After riding around our area (Evansdale), we headed over to Cloverdale and wandered up and down that area. I have to keep reminding her that her turn signals aren't automatic. After the 6th or 7th stop, wave her next to me, "turn signals", she figured it out. We crossed Dale Blvd up at Barksdale and wandered around in there. She found out where her boss lives when we turned at a cul-de-sac. She found it amusing that when she waved, he waved back but with the blank look. Lots of little kids running around; "Hey Harley man" and various waving. We went by lots of bikes sitting on the street or in driveways and only a couple riding. She practiced up hill stop signs (throttle, clutch, foot brake). At one point, I pulled into the street so she could concentrate on the coordination instead of traffic. She got it at the other stops. She enjoyed the ride and I enjoyed the weather. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 10:18:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83EIOSi011441; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:18:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83EIOYc011432; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:18:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY+s74CpNF99F2me0/L6KEHHHpKU1T3+iZ+OGLq3wqM9p7Gbk++EeYWitdejfm/Ob8= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: gory accident picture Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 10:18:20 -0400 Message-ID: <012801c25354$c2141710$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Ten or so years ago, this or a similar accident happened in Orlando, FL. A junior enlisted Navy f#cknut on a sportbike had installed an off-switch for his headlights & taillights so that the cops would have a harder time catching him at night. He was running from said cops, w/ all lights off...at well over 100mph on a major urban road (the road is kinda like Columbia Pike is in Arlington); he t-boned a car with a couple of honor students who were just leaving a study session. He killed himself and the occupants. A major black eye for the Navy and m/c-ists. --jon -----Original Message----- From: Motor PsychoL Danny [mailto:motorcycle@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:53 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: gory accident picture http://www.sportbikes.dhs.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=displayit&Picture_ID=3314 5 weak stomach people shoudln't look at this.. but any conclusions that this is real or a phoney? i would think so much speed to impact liek t his would be the same speed to throw the rider far away from the accident. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 11:11:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83FBWSi011921; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:11:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83FBV8R011913; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:11:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: "'Daniel H. Brown'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: mmmm... Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:11:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Yep, I rode yesterday down river road out toward Poolesville. Had two people dump there bikes there ok just some cosmetic damage. You know some people get bugs on there fairings after a ride well we stopped and I discovered a bird wedged in my fairing. Eeeewwwww! I tried to kick it off and only the body came out the head is still in there. I got pictures. Have to scan them though so I'll be posting them soon. LOL. Anyone ever hear of that before I haven't. See ya -----Original Message----- From: Daniel H. Brown [mailto:brown@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 9:54 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: mmmm... Weather today is almost perfect. Had a good ride in, trafic was fairly well behaved. Rode yesterday too - was overcast, but dry. Did the Arlington, Northwest up the MD side of the Potomac, Cross at White's Ferry, and back on the Virginia side ride again. Had my wife with me on the back. We're discovering that, for her anyhow, pillion on the VFR isn't very comfortable. We stopped at the ferry and grabbed some food. There seemed to be plenty of other bikers making short stops there. Talked to a couple of them and then watched a whole crew of HD riders, flying their colors, ride by. This ride isn't /that/ exciting -- way too much "big" road to cover before getting to more "fun" road, but I guess that goes with living in this area. No idea on milage -- am still waiting on AZ motorsports to send me the speedo cable link part to repair that. Am finding that not having a working speedo means one less distraction to have to look at however. Yesterday was the first trial of the new Autocom intercom system. Didn't get it bike mounted, just, for now, stuck it into the tank bag. It was good to have, good to be able to know when it was time for a break, and such. The microphone audio seems a bit low -- need to futz around a bit and see if I can improve it. Tried it with a radio (2m ham) on the way to work this morning - got a similar "low audio" report from another station. Anyone else ride today? -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 11:20:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83FKhSi012013; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:20:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83FKgZL012006; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:20:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020903111428.01d67ab8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:20:31 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: RE: mmmm... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:11 AM 9/3/2002 -0400, Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS) wrote: >Yep, I rode yesterday down river road out toward Poolesville. Had two people >dump there bikes there ok just some cosmetic damage. You know some people >get bugs on there fairings after a ride well we stopped and I discovered a >bird wedged in my fairing. Eeeewwwww! I tried to kick it off and only the >body came out the head is still in there. I got pictures. Have to scan them >though so I'll be posting them soon. LOL. Anyone ever hear of that before I >haven't. See ya No, but at the risk of *completely* throwing this discussion to a different topic, I had a sparrow nosedive into my leg and imbed it's beak while I was riding down in Va. Beach. I was going about 60mph and didn't realize what happened until I felt this *serious* burning sensation just above my left knee. I looked down and this bird was flapping around and apparently got it's beak wrapped up in the fiber of my jeans after putting a 1/2" deep hole into my leg. I stopped and it fell off but it didn't look too good. I bled like a stuck pig until I got home, then had to go to the emergency room where they gave me some shots and taped the hole shut. Hurt like hell for about 2 weeks. Swelled up like a third eyeball..all purple and green. Yeech. Bird beak puncture wounds majorly suck. I don't recommend them. -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 11:25:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83FPpSi012059; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:25:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83FPpfC012052; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:25:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: mmmm... Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:24:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2002 15:24:44.0363 (UTC) FILETIME=[07DB29B0:01C2535E] Aki, Your eyeballs are purple and green? Man! I've got to party with you, sometime... Perry >From: Aki Damme >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: mmmm... >Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:20:31 -0400 > [snip] >Swelled up like a third eyeball..all purple and green. Yeech. > >Bird beak puncture wounds majorly suck. I don't recommend them. > >-aki > > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 11:27:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83FRjSi012095; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:27:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83FRjaW012088; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:27:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020903152743.27712.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:27:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: (non-moto) My band is auditioning at Zigs tonight! To: dccyles , John Collier MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My band Chaotika is auditioning tonight at Zigs in Alexandria to get a gig during one of their regular music nights. Tonight is their open mike, so we essentially have 20 minutes to show the ownership what we can do. If anyone is in the area please stop by and listen. Having a few people show up to hear us will help us in getting booked. The open mike starts at 8:00. I don't know when we will go on, as they figure out the schedule at 7:00pm. Directions to Zigs can be found on their website: http://www.zigsbar.com/ Keith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 11:29:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83FTASi012139; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:29:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83FTA67012132; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:29:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020903112748.01d7c350@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 11:28:42 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: RE: mmmm... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:24 AM 9/3/2002 -0400, Perry Coleman wrote: >Aki, > >Your eyeballs are purple and green? Man! I've got to party with you, >sometime... > >Perry > LOL! Hey wait a minute...you mean yours aren't? NOW I know why that LASIK surgery was so cheap.... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 11:48:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83FmkSi012295; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:48:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83FmkPI012287; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:48:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020903154841.11127.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:48:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: mmmm... To: "Daniel H. Brown" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Daniel H. Brown" wrote: > > > Rode yesterday too - was overcast, but dry. Did the > Arlington, Northwest > up the MD side of the Potomac, Cross at White's Ferry, > and back on the > Virginia side ride again. Had my wife with me on the > back. We're > discovering that, for her anyhow, pillion on the VFR > isn't very > comfortable. We stopped at the ferry and grabbed some > food. There seemed > to be plenty of other bikers making short stops there. > Talked to a couple > of them and then watched a whole crew of HD riders, > flying their colors, > ride by. we were snubbed on saturday by 3 rubs. multiple waves to 3 separate hd idiots within the same group. no response. i take solace in the hope that their machines may have rattled apart before they got home. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 12:04:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83G44Si012464; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:04:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83G43i6012454; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:04:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020903160356.9304.qmail@web40411.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 09:03:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: FS: Redskins vs. Cardinals Tix To: DC Cycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll be racing at Summit this weekend, so anyone that would like to go to this Sunday's opener, please let me know. 1pm Sect 454, Row 9, Seats 1 & 2 Face Value is $69 per ticket. Make offer. I have the tickets with me in Tysons Corner. Live in Sterling. Can deliver in the DC area. Thanks, Steve Clark TightSqueezeRacing.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 12:13:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83GDKSi012539; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:13:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83GDK6J012530; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:13:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: mmmm...sparrows Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 11:12:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623042EB82A@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE: mmmm...sparrows Thread-Index: AcJTZMgLHmJQTHIoS62z3FJgq9/fag== From: To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g83GDISi012513 Hmm, another reason to wear a full face I had a sparrow hit me in the windshield on Saturday at speed, Splat...I had to stop and clean the guts off....yuck George >>> Aki Damme 09/03/02 11:20AM >>> wrote: > I had a sparrow nosedive into my leg and imbed it's beak while I was riding down From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 12:16:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83GGJSi012583; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:16:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83GGJnd012579; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:16:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020903121458.01d6b568@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 12:16:02 -0400 To: , From: Aki Damme Subject: RE: mmmm...sparrows In-Reply-To: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623042EB82A@nt-hqexbh1.boiseo ffice.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:12 AM 9/3/2002 -0500, George.Cole@XXXXXX wrote: >Hmm, another reason to wear a full face > >I had a sparrow hit me in the windshield on Saturday at speed, Splat...I >had >to stop and clean the guts off....yuck > >George although the merits of wearing a full face helmet are well known, (I was wearing one btw), I think it would of been overkill to wear one on each knee. ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 14:45:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83IjbSi013529; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:45:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83IjaZt013519; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:45:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:45:28 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640912D@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: mmmm... Thread-Index: AcJTYXqB5gxlqWwCT5GqYdEXoYzGUwAELfeg From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g83IjZSi013507 I thought it would be only proper that I mention my first and last Coleman shopping experience (that is, if I can help it). As some of you may remember, I am the guy who had the bike and all the gear except the helmet, and wanted to start riding ASAP. I ended up going to Coleman in Falls Church to get a cheap helmet to carry me through the parking lots as I shop around on the net for a quality helmet. In the end, however, I bought a Shoei TZ-1 Venom helmet they were blowing out for a reasonable $255 OTD. Now getting to the good part. As I was trying on other helmets for size, another customer right next to me completely dropped a Shoei helmet as he was taking it off. It hit the ground hard and tumbled quite a bit. None of the Coleman salespeople seemed to be the least bothered by this. That's when I made a mental note to never buy a helmet if it was used for display purposes :) Similarly, customer service rivaled that of socialist France. When I asked if the helmet is Snell95 or Snell2000, the salesguy thought about it, then said he's not sure and just walked away. When I asked another sales guy if they had R6 frame sliders, he said they would have to order them, at which point he turned around and resumed a very heated conversation with a coworker behind the counter regarding which merchandise they should pitch and sell to customers, because they get different commission on different things. There also seems to be some friction between this location and another Coleman location or some other shop... I'm finally riding my R6 That said, even despite all the rain and other obligations, I started to ride around this past 3-day weekend. I started by playing with the friction zone, then proceeded to walk the bike, ride in a straight line, break hard, start taking some turns, etc. Top speed never exceeded 35mph. I want to get my slow maneuvers down before going faster. My first impression is that the R6 is easy to balance, even for me. I can flatfoot the bike with one leg, or tiptoe with both legs. As funny as this may sound, the motorcycle kinda feels like my road bicycle: nimble, responsive, and precise. I also found the R6 to be very comfortable. I guess that's what happens if you've been riding a road bicycle for the last couple of years! hehehe... That said, there are some areas that I need to work on :) Sometimes I forgot to turn my head enough to make nicer 90-degree turns. Also, on few occasions, I slipped it into neutral, (from 2nd) inadvertently. This is the only source of discomfort on the bike: keeping my ankle pointing up... Since I got it into neutral, I suspect that I ride the back brake sometimes as well. BTW, this mostly happened when I was braking... Other than that, I will need to spend some time on riding smoother. The bike is pretty twitchy in 1st, but things get much smoother in 2nd. Overall, it's not as hard as I thought it would be, but there's definately areas that I need to work on. I though I would let you guys know. Witold PS. I'm still planning to put frame sliders on the bike, but I'm having a heck of a time taking off the fairing. One screw in particular feels like it's been superglued in! All I managed to do is mess it up with the screwdriver... I might just hand it off to a dealer to do the work. If they can unscrew that fairing, they will have earned their money :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 15:02:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83J2gSi013696; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:02:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83J2gXF013688; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:02:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:00:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623042B9FC1@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding Thread-Index: AcJTfGjax/Qo6yzHRVmVvx9WU6g5pQ== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g83J2eSi013676 I would suggest going to Sears and purchase a Impact screwdriver and a Rubber mallet, to get that screw off, Unless the dealer is wiling to do it for free...you might as well order some new fairing screws. You are welcome to ride over to my garage and I will gladly loosen the screws for you. But maybe you need to practice some more before hitting the Beltway. George >>> Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services 09/03/02 02:45PM >>> wrote PS. I'm still planning to put frame sliders on the bike, but I'm having a heck of a time taking off the fairing. One screw in particular feels like it's been superglued in! All I managed to do is mess it up with the screwdriver... I might just hand it off to a dealer to do the work. If they can unscrew that fairing, they will have earned their money :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 15:07:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83J7iSi013770; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:07:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83J7haW013762; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:07:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVadBQjK6LXQtxxUAASHRG2kNGYe0iQzOgVpbg4cTo4rnfHhS1F03CMbGEfghO6MLB4= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:07:40 -0400 Message-ID: <013401c2537d$2d5185d0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Impact driver. It's like a big fat black metal screw driver thingy that you whack with a hammer. Much fun and a very essential tool for any m/c-ist. $20? at your nearest tool source (e.g. Sears). (When you whack it, it turns the screw driver bit about 1/32 of a turn. Combined with the force of impact, which drives the bit in harder and knocks and maybe even relaxes the torque on the screw, it can get just about any philips screw out.) A google search led me to this description: www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/LIS-29200.html If you don't want to wait, come to my house and I'll get it out in 10 seconds (assuming phillips head). --jon -----Witold wrote: > One screw in particular feels like it's been superglued in! All I managed to do is mess it up with the screwdriver... I might just hand it off to a dealer to do the work. If they can unscrew that fairing, they will have earned their money :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 15:29:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83JTYSi013919; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:29:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83JTYDY013914; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:29:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2.4011 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 15:29:27 -0400 Subject: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding From: Rob Curtis To: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services CC: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640912D@rnc1.rnchq.org> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit If you are going to do any work on your bike at all, spend some cash on good tools. At the very least get a decent socket set and some good screwdrivers. I have had tons of screwdrivers made by craftsman and grizzly and all the home depot brands and used them to strip the heads of countless screw. Then one day I happened to be at a dealership when the Snap-On dude was there. I bought 2 phillips/posi drivers for $25. I cannot stress enough that, for me, those screwdrivers have been worth every penny. They fit the screwheads better, allow me to put more force on the screw when twisting and even have a hex collar that allows the use of a wrench for a really tight screw. I've mangled a couple of screws using these screwdrivers, but that's because I shoulda been using an impact driver from the get go (right George?). A bet you can get any fairing screw off with the right tool! Rob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 15:33:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83JXjSi013972; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:33:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83JXiO7013966; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:33:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:37:35 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding In-Reply-To: <013401c2537d$2d5185d0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > -----Witold wrote: > > One screw in particular feels like it's been superglued in! All I managed > to do is mess it up with the screwdriver... I might just hand it off to a > dealer to do the work. If they can unscrew that fairing, they will have > earned their money :) > I've got an impact driver, I'd be glad to help you out, I have some screw extractors too, well about 1/2 a set, I hate when they break...GRRR. Also have a die griner if you need to cut new grooves in the head. Can you tell I've had some stuck screws before? Just mention where you are and I'm sure there is a list member close enough to help you out. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 15:53:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83JrSSi014172; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:53:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83JrRt0014162; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:53:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020903195325.22438.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 12:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Can someone post this on Sportbikes.net To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is anyone a member at http://www.sportbikes.net? If so, can you please post an message promoting this week's bikenight? I cannot register for some reason. Message could read: BikeNight is this Sunday, September 8th at CarPool in Arlington, VA from 6PM to 10PM. Please join us for the last BikeNight of the year. Website is http://www.sportbikes.net thanks and let me know if you do this. Also, ANY other lists. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 15:55:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83JtwSi014219; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:55:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83Jtw6c014215; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:55:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:59:52 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: helmets with integrated sunshields? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've got an HJC CL-12, while I like the helmet, I am tired of swapping shields, and REALLY tired of the damn mirrored ones getting scratched by just wearing them. It seems like I get 6 months of usage before the mirrored one is toast. The original clear one is still like new. To clean them I set a wet rag on it and let it soak for a bit, then wipe it off, I only use water or window tint safe glass cleaner. I still get scratches all over the place (in the mirror finish, not the actual plastic), and at $35 a pop, its expensive. Also I've been stuck out late at night with the mirrored because a short ride turned out to be a long ride. So any ideas/opinions on helmets with an integrated sun visor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg? Dan -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 15:59:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83JxISi014265; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:59:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83JxIoC014257; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:59:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <018901c25385$283ae7a0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dan" , References: Subject: Re: helmets with integrated sunshields? Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:04:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I've been considering a flip-front and lots of people recommend the Schuberth Concept helmet. It has an integrated tinted visor. http://www.schuberth-usa.com/ Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 ----- Original Message ----- From: "dan" > I've got an HJC CL-12, while I like the helmet, I am tired of swapping > shields, and REALLY tired of the damn mirrored ones getting scratched by > just wearing them. It seems like I get 6 months of usage before the > mirrored one is toast. The original clear one is still like new. To > clean them I set a wet rag on it and let it soak for a bit, then wipe it > off, I only use water or window tint safe glass cleaner. I still get > scratches all over the place (in the mirror finish, not the actual > plastic), and at $35 a pop, its expensive. Also I've been stuck out late > at night with the mirrored because a short ride turned out to be a long > ride. So any ideas/opinions on helmets with an integrated sun visor that > doesn't cost an arm and a leg? > > Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 16:11:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83KB3Si014364; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:11:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83KB2Nr014358; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:11:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020903201100.8560.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:11:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: helmets with integrated sunshields? To: dan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Here's a ten-cent solution you may like. Use your regular clear visor and put one or two strips of black electrical tape (NOT duct tape) along the top edge. If you do it carefully enough it looks clean and will usually block the setting/rising sun from blinding you. I get the same problem with my tinted shield by the way - scratches too easily. (Suomy) Chris Weaver --- dan wrote: > I've got an HJC CL-12, while I like the helmet, I am > tired of swapping > shields, and REALLY tired of the damn mirrored ones > getting scratched by > just wearing them. It seems like I get 6 months of > usage before the > mirrored one is toast. The original clear one is > still like new. To > clean them I set a wet rag on it and let it soak for > a bit, then wipe it > off, I only use water or window tint safe glass > cleaner. I still get > scratches all over the place (in the mirror finish, > not the actual > plastic), and at $35 a pop, its expensive. Also > I've been stuck out late > at night with the mirrored because a short ride > turned out to be a long > ride. So any ideas/opinions on helmets with an > integrated sun visor that > doesn't cost an arm and a leg? > > Dan > > -- > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 16:14:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83KETSi014415; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:14:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83KET05014408; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:14:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020903201427.73355.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:14:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Can someone post this on Sportbikes.net To: Mark Kitchell , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20020903195325.22438.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Done. Chris Weaver --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > Is anyone a member at http://www.sportbikes.net? > > If so, can you please post an message promoting this > week's bikenight? I cannot register for some > reason. > > Message could read: > > BikeNight is this Sunday, September 8th at CarPool > in > Arlington, VA from 6PM to 10PM. Please join us for > the last BikeNight of the year. > > Website is > > http://www.sportbikes.net > > thanks and let me know if you do this. > > Also, ANY other lists. > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 16:29:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83KTDSi014514; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:29:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83KTCeh014504; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:29:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D751CE0.3C1C9140@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:34:40 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jmstrang@XXXXXX CC: "DC Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding References: <013401c2537d$2d5185d0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, impact driver, an absolute must have tool if you own a Japanese bike. Must have for Harleys - Loc-Tite :-) Oh yeah, replace those pesky phillips heads with allen bolts, no more problems. Bill Jon Strang wrote: > Impact driver. > > It's like a big fat black metal screw driver thingy that you whack with a > hammer. Much fun and a very essential tool for any m/c-ist. $20? at your > nearest tool source (e.g. Sears). > > (When you whack it, it turns the screw driver bit about 1/32 of a turn. > Combined with the force of impact, which drives the bit in harder and knocks > and maybe even relaxes the torque on the screw, it can get just about any > philips screw out.) > > A google search led me to this description: > www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/LIS-29200.html > > If you don't want to wait, come to my house and I'll get it out in 10 > seconds (assuming phillips head). > > --jon > > -----Witold wrote: > > One screw in particular feels like it's been superglued in! All I managed > to do is mess it up with the screwdriver... I might just hand it off to a > dealer to do the work. If they can unscrew that fairing, they will have > earned their money :) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 16:33:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83KXxSi014562; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:33:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83KXwgP014551; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:33:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020903203356.12040.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:33:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding To: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640912D@rnc1.rnchq.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: > > I'm finally riding my R6 > > That said, even despite all the rain and other > obligations, I started to ride around this past 3-day > weekend. I started by playing with the friction zone, > then proceeded to walk the bike, ride in a straight line, > break hard, start taking some turns, etc. Top speed > never exceeded 35mph. I want to get my slow maneuvers > down before going faster. fyi: a neighbor newbie with a similar strategy to yours recently had problems with his new scoot because he failed to keep the rpms up high enough to charge the battery. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 16:35:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83KZXSi014611; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:35:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83KZXbE014601; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:35:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYjQPlIzyBB9bgxVb4cmDx59jL+2+gEvEfMFOSCWi9kSzfMao/3C9wASZ+NQI9qVc4= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:35:29 -0400 Message-ID: <014101c25389$72113330$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: <3D751CE0.3C1C9140@patriot.net> Importance: Normal especially on float bowls. I don't think Mikuni designs for the impact it takes to get the POS philips out of the bottom the the carbs. -----Bill wrote: > Oh yeah, replace those pesky phillips heads with allen bolts, no more problems. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 16:56:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83KuHSi014746; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:56:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83KuGVU014739; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:56:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020903205609.17907.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:56:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Can someone post this on Sportbikes.net To: Chris Weaver , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20020903201427.73355.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thanks! --- Chris Weaver wrote: > Done. > > Chris Weaver > > --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > > Is anyone a member at http://www.sportbikes.net? > > > > If so, can you please post an message promoting > this > > week's bikenight? I cannot register for some > > reason. > > > > Message could read: > > > > BikeNight is this Sunday, September 8th at CarPool > > in > > Arlington, VA from 6PM to 10PM. Please join us > for > > the last BikeNight of the year. > > > > Website is > > > > http://www.sportbikes.net > > > > thanks and let me know if you do this. > > > > Also, ANY other lists. > > > > ===== > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > > http://finance.yahoo.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 17:19:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83LJxSi014887; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:19:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83LJxte014877; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:19:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:17:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640912D@rnc1.rnchq.org> Message-ID: <20020903141556.A80895-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Sep 2002, Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: > That said, there are some areas that I need to work on :) Sometimes I forgot to turn my head enough to make nicer 90-degree turns. Also, on few occasions, I slipped it into neutral, (from 2nd) inadvertently. This is the only source of discomfort on the bike: keeping my ankle pointing up... Since I got it into neutral, I suspect that I ride the back brake sometimes as well. BTW, this mostly happened when I was braking... > > Other than that, I will need to spend some time on riding smoother. The bike is pretty twitchy in 1st, but things get much smoother in 2nd. Overall, it's not as hard as I thought it would be, but there's definately areas that I need to work on. > > I though I would let you guys know. > > Witold You should be riding with the balls of your feet on the pegs, not with your foot under the shift lever or riding on top of the rear brake (unless you're covering it for some other reason, like riding in gravel, anticipating a quick stop, etc). -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 17:42:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83Lg1Si015051; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:42:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83Lg01Z015043; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:42:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <115.16c353bb.2aa6869d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:41:49 EDT Subject: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding and a question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 witold --- you should feel privileged you offer a problem removing your fairing and many guys offer to come over or have you come to their place to help you out. ive been asking these same guys to go for rides for the past 2 months! so let me try out your tactic. i have a slight leak on my new purple monster. i will try to explain it but i warn you -- im not a mechanic by any means! it started showing shortly after my 600 mile service (which was at about 1000 miles). it might just be an overflow of something that the service guy did. imagine a cruiser (cuz my first bike wasn't an R6 however witold --- i caught the same flack that you that about getting a brand new bike as my first one!). the clutch cable comes down from the left across the front towards my right leg. the black casing ends at a bolt where its just bare cable for about 6 inches. it then attaches to a lever which moves back and forth when i pull the clutch. it appears to be leaking from where the bolt attaches to the cable. i don't believe that its oil and that its just (i made this term up) clutch lubricant. so who wants me to bring my bike over? (it worked for witold!) but for real... i don't think its a big deal. i need to get it serviced again soon. so when i go to Europe in a month ill let the shop people take care of the service and fix whatever problem its experiencing --- it should be covered under warrantee ive had it 2.5 months with 3400 miles and i haven't been riding in 2.5 weeks! ARGH! see you on sunday! jenn 2002 purple monster (aka honda shadow vlx 600 deluxe) http://profiles.yahoo.com/jennburkett From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 17:49:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83LndSi015107; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:49:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83Lndiq015100; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:49:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYfjK0p82OU8dzDYjsT7H3clHnie1uk2baASvMW5qUeUTgax7QfJFl0sOr1VfKJXpg= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: JTB's leaky clutch (cable?) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:49:36 -0400 Message-ID: <014601c25393$cc5781a0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: <115.16c353bb.2aa6869d@aol.com> Importance: Normal The difference is that witold's bike has never been called "cute". --jon -----jtb whined: witold --- you should feel privileged .... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 18:02:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83M2ASi015231; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:02:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83M29u3015221; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:02:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" To: Subject: RE: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding and a question Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:03:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c25395$bd0eee20$2f84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <115.16c353bb.2aa6869d@aol.com> Importance: Normal JTB pounded out on the keyboard in a huff witold --- you should feel privileged you offer a problem removing your fairing and many guys offer to come over or have you come to their place to help you out. ive been asking these same guys to go for rides for the past 2 months! so let me try out your tactic. [Dave] That's because YOU didn't ask anyone here to...well... come over and take your fairing off ;-) ... so who wants me to bring my bike over? (it worked for witold!) [Dave] Is it going to involve a 'fairing' removal ? Good luck with the leak... Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 19:02:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83N2GSi015742; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:02:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83N2FIh015732; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:02:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7540C2.6A3E76A3@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:07:47 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding and a question References: <115.16c353bb.2aa6869d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > witold --- > > you should feel privileged you offer a problem removing your fairing and many > > guys offer to come over or have you come to their place to help you out. ive > > been asking these same guys to go for rides for the past 2 months! so let me > > try out your tactic. > > i have a slight leak on my new purple monster. i will try to explain it but > i warn you -- im not a mechanic by any means! it started showing shortly > after my 600 mile service (which was at about 1000 miles). it might just be > an overflow of something that the service guy did. imagine a cruiser (cuz my > > first bike wasn't an R6 however witold --- i caught the same flack that you > that about getting a brand new bike as my first one!). the clutch cable > comes down from the left across the front towards my right leg. the black > casing ends at a bolt where its just bare cable for about 6 inches. it then > attaches to a lever which moves back and forth when i pull the clutch. it > appears to be leaking from where the bolt attaches to the cable. i don't > believe that its oil and that its just (i made this term up) clutch > lubricant. > > so who wants me to bring my bike over? (it worked for witold!) but for > real... i don't think its a big deal. i need to get it serviced again soon. > > so when i go to Europe in a month ill let the shop people take care of the > service and fix whatever problem its experiencing --- it should be covered > under warrantee ive had it 2.5 months with 3400 miles and i haven't been > riding in 2.5 weeks! ARGH! > > see you on sunday! > jenn > 2002 purple monster > (aka honda shadow vlx 600 deluxe) > http://profiles.yahoo.com/jennburkett Actually, the clutch is *lubricated*. Almost all bikes run *wet* ctutchs (Yates, see if you work with that straight line) and any gasket that fails will cause a leak. Of course, it could be leaking an excess of clutch cable lubricant. Service personal can be overzealous with the squirt cans at times. Bottom line: Bike runs, why worry? But you're welcoem to drop by my dangerously cluttered garage in Annandale and I'll take a peek at it. I won't even scream if it pisses oil on the floor. The two Harleys and one Norton aren't litter box trained. I look at oil as concrete preservation! Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 19:20:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83NKoSi015843; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:20:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83NKo0F015833; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:20:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.1.20020903191425.00a8e270@k-kdom.nishanet.com> X-Sender: brownlee_b@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:21:27 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bruce Brownlee Subject: Re: mmmm... In-Reply-To: <200209032300.g83N01Sr015519@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed damn mike! i can understand waiting on the tires, thats kinda important. but i've gone as much as 4 years without an inspection! the county sticker on my car expired in '98 (current ones in the glove compartment) and i've NEVER had a county sticker on my bike. :-) last time i got my bike inspected was for the MD20/20 in '00 cuz i thought they'd check. wont happen again, i assure you. :-) i pay the taxes and do the inspection, just call it my little 'civil disobedience' to not display the proof..... ride it anyway, a cop friend once told me there isnt but about 1% of the cops out there that know cycle requirements anyway. but maybe i get a little better nod on my ultra. even had one of loudoun county's finest stick his hand out the window and wave to me passing the opposite direction on foxhall road going into middleburg yesterday. by the way, foxhall is a great road, but 90% blind corners/hills, and was still mostly wet with various leaves, etc yesterday afternoon. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 19:35:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83NZjSi016046; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:35:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83NZip9016036; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:35:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:35:21 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: mmmm... To: Carl Schelin Cc: "Daniel H. Brown" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3D754739.3A803775@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <02090310131615.11374@XXXXXX> Carl Schelin wrote: > The wife and I rode around the neighborhood (Dale City). She's still > learning. This is the second time she's been on the road so help and > directions were required. > > After riding around our area (Evansdale), we headed over to Cloverdale > and... Barksdale That's it, start out low in the Dale City alphabet, and work your way up. Let me know when you get to the "K"'s, and I'll join ya. :) Horkster (on Kerrydale) -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 19:51:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83NpQSi016143; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:51:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g83NpPim016133; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:51:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020903195048.01db7ee0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 19:51:17 -0400 To: From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: JTB's leaky clutch (cable?) In-Reply-To: <014601c25393$cc5781a0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> References: <115.16c353bb.2aa6869d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:49 PM 9/3/2002 -0400, Jon Strang wrote: >The difference is that witold's bike has never been called "cute". > >--jon > >-----jtb whined: > > >witold --- > >you should feel privileged .... ..and no guy in his right mind would even *touch* a purple bike. ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 20:24:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g840OaSi016434; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:24:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g840OZl0016424; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:24:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <43.10f99cc7.2aa6acbc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:24:28 EDT Subject: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/3/2002 3:02:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, George.Cole@XXXXXX writes: > I would suggest going to Sears and purchase a Impact screwdriver and a > Rubber > mallet, to get that screw off, Not unless there is something _real_ solid behind that screw, not just a flimsy tubular bracket. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 20:35:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g840ZLSi016518; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:35:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g840ZLF0016510; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:35:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:35:10 EDT Subject: Re: A Coleman PS experience/R6 riding and a question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/3/2002 5:41:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX writes: > it > appears to be leaking from where the bolt attaches to the cable. _If_ I read your post correctly it is just cable lubricant. Did the shop lube your cables when they serviced your bike? Anyhow, it should stop by itself. FYI I expect your owners manual states that no lube should be used on your cables (it could degrade the Teflon coating on the inner cable) I would not worry about it, but that is what Honda has been saying about lubing cables for some time. Again _IF_ I read your post correctly. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 21:21:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g841LUSi016767; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:21:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g841LUDN016757; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:21:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020903211810.0326cec0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:21:23 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: mmmm... In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.1.20020903191425.00a8e270@k-kdom.nishanet.com> References: <200209032300.g83N01Sr015519@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:21 PM 9/3/2002, Bruce Brownlee wrote: >damn mike! i can understand waiting on the tires, thats kinda important. >but i've gone as much as 4 years without an inspection! the county >sticker on my car expired in '98 You should see my tires. Last afternoon rain I thought I was riding on black ice. These gravel roads are tearing them up. My D220 rear is on the way, but I just learned that the front is on backorder for two weeks. Dunlop is behind on shipments of the new line. I have a D207 front in the garage, but I am a bit worried about mixing them up. It has 4k on it and looks pretty new. The rear was shot in 4k on the 207s. Thoughts? Suggestions? PS - In Clifton they have had cops at the tracks and stop sign a couple times lately. Pulling for inspections and county stickers. With my luck, I'd get nailed. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 N38.84810 W77.44614 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 3 21:43:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g841hiSi016887; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:43:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g841hgnB016877; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:43:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D756640.E1EE9334@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 21:47:44 -0400 From: "Steven C. Di Pietro" Organization: The Suzuki Owners Club - U.S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.8 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Sunshields Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH PLAIN at pop015.verizon.net from [141.157.122.244] using ID at Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:43:32 -0500 dan wrote: > I've got an HJC CL-12, while I like the helmet, I am tired of swapping > shields, and REALLY tired of the damn mirrored ones getting scratched by > just wearing them. SNIP > So any ideas/opinions on helmets with an integrated sun visor that > doesn't cost an arm and a leg? > > Dan Dan, Get one of these, http://www.helmetsunblocker.com/ I've got them on my helmets and they work great. Not quite as cheap as electrical tape though. LOL Steven C. Di Pietro Assistant National Director National Marketing Coordinator Suzuki Owners Club USA 142 Circle Road Pasadena Md. 21122-6036 http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 06:06:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84A6bSi019562; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 06:06:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84A6aEL019552; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 06:06:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: mmmm... Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 06:04:22 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX References: <02090310131615.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> <3D754739.3A803775@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <3D754739.3A803775@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209040604221A.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 03 September 2002 19:35, Dale Horstman wrote: > Carl Schelin wrote: > > The wife and I rode around the neighborhood (Dale City). She's still > > learning. This is the second time she's been on the road so help and > > directions were required. > > > > After riding around our area (Evansdale), we headed over to Cloverdale > > and... Barksdale > > That's it, start out low in the Dale City alphabet, and work your way > up. Let me know when you get to the "K"'s, and I'll join ya. :) > > Horkster (on Kerrydale) The problem is the main roads (minnieville and dale blvd). She doesn't want to get on those and I can't blame her. I'll drag her out again this weekend. Maybe with an early start, we can get farther out in the alphabet. We're both curious as to what's happening at the water treatment plant/rec center. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 07:40:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84Be9Si019997; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 07:40:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84Be81c019987; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 07:40:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020904114006.8790.qmail@web9703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 04:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: helmets with integrated sunshields? To: DCC , dan@XXXXXX, pawilson@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul wrote: >...lots of people recommend the Schuberth Concept > helmet. When these came out, I really wanted one. I thought they were the coolest thing since Social Distortion. Well, maybe not that cool... But anyway... I know of at least one person who bought one and hated it. Very noisy. > It has an integrated tinted visor. I asked my friend about this, and he said its curved shape lets too much sun in from the sides. Since they don't cost $400, they can't be as Kewl as the Schuberth Helmes ;), but the Nolan N100s seem to be good value for the $ in flip fronts. They have a model with a removable, washable liner too. HTH, Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 08:12:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84CCDSi020216; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:12:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84CCDma020208; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:12:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.0.1.4.2.20020904080858.00a677a8@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> X-Sender: brown@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.1 Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 08:10:37 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Dan Brown Subject: Re: mmmm... In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020903211810.0326cec0@mail.troutman.org> References: <5.1.1.6.1.20020903191425.00a8e270@k-kdom.nishanet.com> <200209032300.g83N01Sr015519@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:21 PM 9/3/2002 -0400, you wrote: >At 07:21 PM 9/3/2002, Bruce Brownlee wrote: >>damn mike! i can understand waiting on the tires, thats kinda important. >>but i've gone as much as 4 years without an inspection! the county >>sticker on my car expired in '98 > >You should see my tires. Last afternoon rain I thought I was riding on >black ... >behind on shipments of the new line. I have a D207 front in the garage, >but I am a bit worried about mixing them up. It has 4k on it and looks >pretty new. The rear was shot in 4k on the 207s. > >Thoughts? Suggestions? To get it inspected? Who cares what rubber you have on there as long as you have enough tread to pass. -- Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 08:22:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84CMUSi020288; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:22:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84CMTVD020279; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:22:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020904122222.67024.qmail@web12306.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 05:22:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: Summit Point This weekend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone heading up to Summit this weekend for the races? Nick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 08:38:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84CcwSi020401; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:38:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84CcwUC020391; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:38:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: From: "Scott, Wellesley E." To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Summit Point This weekend Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:35:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I'll be heading to the races this weekend. A bunch of my friends are racing 2-stroke scooters this year. There's no word as to whether they'll be on the big track as they have been for their last three races or whether they'll be on the Jefferson Circuit. If anyone is up for a good laugh you should watch the stock and highly tuned Vintage Scooters tear up the track. Some of the racers are former Vintage Motorcycle/Superbike/Supercross racers and are quite good. One of the guys has a super-tuned small-frame Vespa that runs times that are competitive with the GP series bikes. I haven't decided if I'll be riding the RD or one of my Vespas out to the track, but I'll be there regardless. - Wellesley '73 RD350 + 5 Vintage Vespas -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Thompson [mailto:sfdaytona@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:22 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Summit Point This weekend Anyone heading up to Summit this weekend for the races? Nick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 08:53:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84CrsSi020526; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:53:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84Crr8W020516; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:53:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <166.13414317.2aa75c51@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:53:37 EDT Subject: Re: Summit Point This weekend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Language: en X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g84CrqSi020504 In a message dated 9/4/2002 8:39:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wscott@XXXXXX writes: > If anyone is up for a good laugh you should watch the stock and highly tuned > Vintage Scooters tear up the track. That sounds like a real hoot to me, proof that it aint the bike that makes the race, its the competition. (One of the best (most fun) races I was ever involved in was two Honda ATC 70s (three wheels and 70cc.*) around and around the local Yamaha shop. Talk about a BTW no holds barred no surrender RACE! Damn that was fun. Unfortunately I will not be able to come (non-moto company,) maybe next time. *Note: I am 6)B’4" and was probably around 200# at the time. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 09:03:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84D3dSi020627; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:03:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84D3cE7020617; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:03:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Brad Faas" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Nicholas Thompson Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:57:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Summit Point This weekend Message-ID: <3D75CAEB.18217.18A00993@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20020904122222.67024.qmail@web12306.mail.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body I'll be there.... Brad On 4 Sep 2002 at 5:22, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Anyone heading up to Summit this weekend for the > races? > > > Nick > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 09:21:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84DLLSi020912; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:21:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84DLKhQ020905; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:21:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD51925F9@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: DC Cycles List Subject: Spam: Room for Rent in McLean Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:22:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Room For Rent (703) 917-0334 $455 + 1/4 utilities / month Start Oct 6th 4 bedroom 3.5 bathroom 3 level large Townhouse Intersection of 123 & Dulles Toll Road in McLean Live with professional males mid 20s Unlimited Parking (motorcycles have to be in front of spot covered) Large Patio in back W/D DW AC Fireplace Cable modem No Pets Short drive to Metro From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 09:31:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84DVpSi021074; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:31:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84DVolh021064; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:31:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00e001c25416$e29e3cf0$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: References: <20020904122222.67024.qmail@web12306.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Summit Point This weekend Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 09:27:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 I'll be there...but more importantly, my camera will be there :-) http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/photos_main.htm Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Thompson" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Summit Point This weekend > Anyone heading up to Summit this weekend for the > races? > > > Nick > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 10:24:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84EOYSi021566; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:24:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84EOXxD021559; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:24:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004f01c2541f$99f53ae0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Scratch" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <20020904114006.8790.qmail@web9703.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: helmets with integrated sunshields? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:29:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I like the Nolan, but it doesn't seem to conform to the shape of my melon very well. I got a good fit from the HJC Symax, but a MCN review spanked them for having a plastic chinbar locking mechanism while the Nolan has metal. The Nolan was rated MCN's Best Buy (July '01) in modular lids. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scratch" > > Since they don't cost $400, they can't be as Kewl as > the Schuberth Helmes ;), but the Nolan N100s seem to > be good value for the $ in flip fronts. They have a > model with a removable, washable liner too. > > HTH, > > Rich From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 11:09:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84F98Si022032; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:09:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84F97Xo022025; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:09:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: From: "Patti Rodgers" Subject: Partisans MC Flag Run to the Pentagon (memorial ride) Sept. 14 Message-Id: <040902247.29448@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: 4 Sep 2002 08:10:47 -0700 http://www.virginiawind.com/events/02_sep_14.asp Hosted by the Partisans Motorcycle Club of NoVa. Saturday, Sept. 14, leaving from Warrenton VA at 10 AM and going to the Pentagon for a wreath-laying in honor of those killed in the Sept. 11 attacks. All riders should bring a flag to fly. You can register before by downloading a form and sending it in, or register at the event the day of. It's $5 if you register before, $8 if you register the day of. Your registration fee gets you lunch and if you register in advance you get a patch for your jacket too. I didn't do this ride last year but heard it was a nice time. Anyone want to join me for this? I can get some coffee and danish together for anyone wishing to meet up at my house in DC for the ride out to Warrenton. Cheers, Patti From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 13:16:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84HGKSi023075; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:16:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84HGJ1g023065; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:16:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:13:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Iron Works? Message-ID: <20020904101150.V92903-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A couple friends and I were thinking of stopping by Iron Works tonight to hang out and BS. Anyone else? -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 13:26:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84HQNSi023150; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:26:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84HQNAo023142; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:26:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Iron Works? Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:26:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2002 17:26:16.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CA0C270:01C25438] Iron Works? More information, please? Perry >From: Wayne Edelen >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Iron Works? >Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:13:54 -0700 (PDT) > >A couple friends and I were thinking of stopping by Iron Works tonight to >hang out and BS. Anyone else? > >-- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 13:30:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84HUcSi023211; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:30:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84HUc8d023204; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 13:30:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Iron Works? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020904102517.U92903-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Perry Coleman wrote: > Iron Works? > > More information, please? > > Perry Another list member told me that Iron Works (a custom bike shop) in G'burg had a Weds evening hangout behind their shop. They grilled dogs/burgers and occasionally had some of the Hooters chippies out there. I stopped by a few weeks ago and it was a friendly, casual hangout. Lots of Harleys, a few custom hardtails, Bimmers, Japanese cruisers and 3 sportbikes :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 14:47:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84IlJSi023760; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:47:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84IlIYH023750; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:47:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Iron Works? Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 14:47:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2002 18:47:11.0970 (UTC) FILETIME=[7ACEA420:01C25443] Oh! They're over by the airpark, right? On the way to Rockville H-D/Battley cycle? I've seen them, but never stopped in. I did talk to a guy that does custom paint in that area a few years ago, though... Perry >From: Wayne Edelen >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Iron Works? >Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:28:13 -0700 (PDT) > >On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Perry Coleman wrote: > > > Iron Works? > > > > More information, please? > > > > Perry > >Another list member told me that Iron Works (a custom bike shop) in G'burg >had a Weds evening hangout behind their shop. They grilled dogs/burgers >and occasionally had some of the Hooters chippies out there. I stopped by >a few weeks ago and it was a friendly, casual hangout. Lots of Harleys, a >few custom hardtails, Bimmers, Japanese cruisers and 3 sportbikes :-) > >-- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 14:51:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g84IpcSi023805; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:51:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g84IpcJ8023799; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:51:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 11:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Iron Works? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020904114743.R5859-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, Perry Coleman wrote: > Oh! They're over by the airpark, right? On the way to Rockville H-D/Battley > cycle? > > I've seen them, but never stopped in. I did talk to a guy that does custom > paint in that area a few years ago, though... > > Perry Yep, that's the place. -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 22:36:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g852aZSi026550; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:36:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g852aV5G026543; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 22:36:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020904223518.009f0390@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 22:36:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jennifer_addie@XXXXXX, benbean23@XXXXXX, bilslatt@XXXXXX, thomasajordan@XXXXXX, whiskeycreek@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Today's Humor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed A real product listed on Amazon.com Read the reviews!!!! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/toys/B00005NEBW/custome/102-1422555-5345705 -s- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 4 23:01:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8531NSi026722; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 23:01:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8531M7Y026712; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 23:01:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020904225903.02aaf4d0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rmeyer9@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 22:59:46 -0400 To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jennifer_addie@XXXXXX, benbean23@XXXXXX, bilslatt@XXXXXX, thomasajordan@XXXXXX, whiskeycreek@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Today's Humor In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020904223518.009f0390@mail.mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:36 PM 9/4/02 -0400, Sean Jordan wrote: >A real product listed on Amazon.com > >Read the reviews!!!! > >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/toys/B00005NEBW/custome/102-1422555-5345705 > >-s- Those reviews are hilarious! I bet my 13 year old son would like to meet those 12 year old Harry Potter fans . Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 06:36:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85Aa2Si029203; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:36:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85Aa1MF029193; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:36:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:35:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler X-X-Sender: ph@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: This should improve people's driving... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop-Detect: 1 Hmm... I wonder if they have this for motorcycles too... "The Steering Wheel Table" http://www.egadgets.com/cgi-bin/sgin0101.exe?T1=TO+203 =) -ph From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 08:13:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85CDKSi029717; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:13:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85CDJfR029710; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:13:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaxjauv14uR+Oxq8PFyeV/gDbsyZ2eHDj+4D2ob/pfSMN82WEGwe1fMVFYZRR4CWCA= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Today's Humor Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:13:15 -0400 Message-ID: <004301c254d5$9dd42b10$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020904225903.02aaf4d0@pop.east.cox.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Yeah, but he don't make the right noise. --jon (with apologies to Mojo Nixon) -----Bob wrote: At 10:36 PM 9/4/02 -0400, Sean Jordan wrote: >A real product listed on Amazon.com > >Read the reviews!!!! Those reviews are hilarious! I bet my 13 year old son would like to meet those 12 year old Harry Potter fans . From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:19:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DJISi030210; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:19:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DJH8U030203; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:19:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: pete@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: This should improve people's driving... Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:19:10 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 13:19:10.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[D254C940:01C254DE] Ohmygawd! Please tell me that's a joke. Please! Perry >From: Peter Hartzler >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: This should improve people's driving... >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:35:51 -0400 (EDT) > >Hmm... > >I wonder if they have this for motorcycles too... > >"The Steering Wheel Table" > >http://www.egadgets.com/cgi-bin/sgin0101.exe?T1=TO+203 > >=) > >-ph > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:22:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DMLSi030256; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:22:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DMLKB030248; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:22:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 06:21:54 -0700 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Subject: Bike Night reminder Sender: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 65.36.86.136 Just reminder that this Sunday Sept 8th is the last Bike Night of 2002 (and probably the last one that Mark and I do). CarPool in Arlington, VA. 6-10pm. Reserved motorcycle parking. Details and more info on the website http://www.geocities.com/bikenight. Hope to have a big crowd. Chuck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:25:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DPtSi030305; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:25:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DPtDr030295; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:25:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Sep 2002 13:25:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Unfortunate X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) >From the UnFairtax Journal - Wheelie responsible for cyclist's death A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while doing a wheelie was responsible for a crash that took his life, Fairfax County police said. Michael John Orapello, 37, was driving his 2001 Suzuki GSXR 1000 on New Braddock Road in the Centreville area about 8:30 p.m. Saturday when he crashed into a Ford pickup truck, which caused him to be thrown onto the roadway, police said. As Joseph Allen Siler Jr., 45, of Clifton, attempted to make a left turn on Singletons Way in his truck, Orapello hit him, police said. Upon further investigation, Orapello was speeding and was at fault for the accident, police said Tuesday. Siler was slightly injured. - CLARISSA SPASYK [Dave] Something in this doesn't quite add up... Sad to hear... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:30:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DUMSi030411; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:30:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DUMK9030403; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:30:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905133019.68186.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:30:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Unfortunate To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i've actually heard of a number of incidents in the past few years where a wheel-stand turned really ugly.... reaction time and ability to change course suffers when the front wheel is six feet in the air. hmmmm, i feel like i recognize that name..... --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > From the UnFairtax Journal - > > Wheelie responsible for cyclist's death > A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while doing a > wheelie was responsible for a crash that took his life, > Fairfax County police said. > Michael John Orapello, 37, was driving his 2001 > Suzuki GSXR 1000 on New Braddock Road in the Centreville > area about 8:30 p.m. Saturday when he crashed into a Ford > pickup truck, which caused him to be thrown onto the > roadway, police said. > As Joseph Allen Siler Jr., 45, of Clifton, attempted > to make a left turn on Singletons Way in his truck, > Orapello hit him, police said. Upon further > investigation, Orapello was speeding and was at fault for > the accident, police said Tuesday. > Siler was slightly injured. > - CLARISSA SPASYK > > [Dave] Something in this doesn't quite add up... Sad to > hear... > > Dave __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:30:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DUNSi030433; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:30:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DUNaI030424; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:30:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: Re: This should improve people's driving... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:28:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A64196230428CD29@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: This should improve people's driving... Thread-Index: AcJU4FjJCPr5HyfqQAuvFXcCOXQNsQ== From: To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85DULSi030389 Actually, that could be handy for anyone who has to visit several clients during a workday and ends up eating and working in the car. Now if I saw someone using it while driving, I would have a problem with it. George >>> Perry Coleman 09/05/02 09:19AM >>> Ohmygawd! Please tell me that's a joke. Please! Perry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:36:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DaiSi030508; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:36:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85Daix4030500; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:36:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:35:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> In-Reply-To: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85DahSi030488 yea almost a failure to yeild to oncoming... but if your headlight is in the air...... can't blame the guy... especially at 8:30 at night is it dark or dusk or daylight? not to mention the law says yeild to oncoming no matter how far away but in practical terms.. if you're excessively speeding through an intersection, and you hit any vehicle in the roadway or entering the road way, for all practical and intensive purposes, ti's really your fault. I can't blame the truck driver. I might do "squidly" things but there is a time and place for everything, and the only thing an intersection is a time and place for, is to slow down and look for traffic... (with the occassional exception of a 1/4 mile race if no traffic is around). I think the police did the right thing in their investigation. Truck driver needs not to feel guilty cuz someone did something dangerous and was subject to the reprocussions. I'm not saying it is deserved or it isnt' sad. It's a shame is family has to feel the pain. Danny On 5 Sep 2002 13:25:52 -0000, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >From the UnFairtax Journal - > >Wheelie responsible for cyclist's death > A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while doing a wheelie was responsible for a crash that took his life, Fairfax County police said. > Michael John Orapello, 37, was driving his 2001 Suzuki GSXR 1000 on New Braddock Road in the Centreville area about 8:30 p.m. Saturday when he crashed into a Ford pickup truck, which caused him to be thrown onto the roadway, police said. > As Joseph Allen Siler Jr., 45, of Clifton, attempted to make a left turn on Singletons Way in his truck, Orapello hit him, police said. Upon further investigation, Orapello was speeding and was at fault for the accident, police said Tuesday. > Siler was slightly injured. > - CLARISSA SPASYK > >[Dave] Something in this doesn't quite add up... Sad to hear... > >Dave > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Powered by Wild On Web: >Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! >http://www.wildonweb.com >|Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| >|Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:36:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DarSi030542; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:36:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DarDO030537; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:36:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Danny Thompson" To: Subject: RE: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:36:42 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I hope this is not true. Mike was a friend and a good guy. He supported racers, had a nice salvaged bike business (I bought a couple of SV's from him along the way) and was a good rider (former racer). It doesn't seem like him to do this type of thing. My prayers go out to his family and friends. Danny -----Original Message----- From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:26 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Unfortunate >From the UnFairtax Journal - Wheelie responsible for cyclist's death A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while doing a wheelie was responsible for a crash that took his life, Fairfax County police said. Michael John Orapello, 37, was driving his 2001 Suzuki GSXR 1000 on New Braddock Road in the Centreville area about 8:30 p.m. Saturday when he crashed into a Ford pickup truck, which caused him to be thrown onto the roadway, police said. As Joseph Allen Siler Jr., 45, of Clifton, attempted to make a left turn on Singletons Way in his truck, Orapello hit him, police said. Upon further investigation, Orapello was speeding and was at fault for the accident, police said Tuesday. Siler was slightly injured. - CLARISSA SPASYK [Dave] Something in this doesn't quite add up... Sad to hear... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/2002 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:37:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DbBSi030584; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:37:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DbAcB030571; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:37:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6800@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: bernescut@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:37:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This sucks, but I hesitate to make judgements about the rider's actions knowing the bias most print media has in covering motorcycle issues. There was a similar post on the CBR list some time ago about a rider doing an extended wheelie but since it was at night, his headlight was pointed skyward and the left turning car driver never saw him. It was also ruled the cyclist's fault in that incident. Cedric 2000 CBR600F4 Washington, DC If Milli Vanilli fell in the woods, would someone else make a sound ? >From the UnFairtax Journal - Wheelie responsible for cyclist's death A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while doing a wheelie was responsible for a crash that took his life, Fairfax County police said. Michael John Orapello, 37, was driving his 2001 Suzuki GSXR 1000 on New Braddock Road in the Centreville area about 8:30 p.m. Saturday when he crashed into a Ford pickup truck, which caused him to be thrown onto the roadway, police said. As Joseph Allen Siler Jr., 45, of Clifton, attempted to make a left turn on Singletons Way in his truck, Orapello hit him, police said. Upon further investigation, Orapello was speeding and was at fault for the accident, police said Tuesday. Siler was slightly injured. - CLARISSA SPASYK [Dave] Something in this doesn't quite add up... Sad to hear... Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:38:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DcHSi030620; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:38:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DcGxJ030612; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:38:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:37:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> <20020905133019.68186.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020905133019.68186.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85DcFSi030594 I think the hurt report stated 1/3 of all bike accidents were wheelie related. Yep wheelies go wrong and have a good potential to put a seroius hurting on people. On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:30:19 -0700 (PDT), Tom Gimer wrote: >i've actually heard of a number of incidents in the past >few years where a wheel-stand turned really ugly.... >reaction time and ability to change course suffers when the >front wheel is six feet in the air. > >hmmmm, i feel like i recognize that name..... > > >--- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >> From the UnFairtax Journal - >> >> Wheelie responsible for cyclist's death >> A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while doing a >> wheelie was responsible for a crash that took his life, >> Fairfax County police said. >> Michael John Orapello, 37, was driving his 2001 >> Suzuki GSXR 1000 on New Braddock Road in the Centreville >> area about 8:30 p.m. Saturday when he crashed into a Ford >> pickup truck, which caused him to be thrown onto the >> roadway, police said. >> As Joseph Allen Siler Jr., 45, of Clifton, attempted >> to make a left turn on Singletons Way in his truck, >> Orapello hit him, police said. Upon further >> investigation, Orapello was speeding and was at fault for >> the accident, police said Tuesday. >> Siler was slightly injured. >> - CLARISSA SPASYK >> >> [Dave] Something in this doesn't quite add up... Sad to >> hear... >> >> Dave > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:40:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DekSi030677; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:40:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85Dekx5030669; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:40:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Sean Jordan Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jennifer_addie@XXXXXX, benbean23@XXXXXX, bilslatt@XXXXXX, thomasajordan@XXXXXX, whiskeycreek@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Today's Humor Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:39:58 -0400 Message-ID: <6lnenuoeh7h3mb790f8iugmv9a2boqao39@4ax.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020904223518.009f0390@mail.mac.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020904223518.009f0390@mail.mac.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85DejSi030657 ROTFL From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:44:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DiJSi030775; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:44:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DiIvv030765; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:44:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905134415.83943.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:44:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Unfortunate To: danthompson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii that's exactly where i remember the name. collin fagan used to recommend him as a great source of racebikes and re-titled streetbikes. shit. --- Danny Thompson wrote: > I hope this is not true. Mike was a friend and a good > guy. He supported > racers, had a nice salvaged bike business (I bought a > couple of SV's from > him along the way) and was a good rider (former racer). > It doesn't seem like > him to do this type of thing. My prayers go out to his > family and friends. > Danny > > -----Original Message----- > From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:26 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Unfortunate > > > >From the UnFairtax Journal - > > Wheelie responsible for cyclist's death > A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while doing a > wheelie was > responsible for a crash that took his life, Fairfax > County police said. > Michael John Orapello, 37, was driving his 2001 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:44:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DihSi030803; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:44:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DihB1030797; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:44:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: bernescut@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:43:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6800@NCEAEXCHANGE> In-Reply-To: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6800@NCEAEXCHANGE> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85DigSi030785 Cedric, You don't think in the case you metioned, that it wsa the cyclists fault? We have to yeidl to oncoming, I find that okay, but we have to yeild to invisible traffic too? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:46:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DklSi030938; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:46:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DklWn030928; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:46:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZJKykYqxNWgcbGlW/Kmpbm58tIX8EoFbt+woE8BOG4/h1XLsQbhodX4EtzCHeBFlQ= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: FW: Advice from a Bandit list (stolen from a Hayabusa site) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:46:44 -0400 Message-ID: <005c01c254e2$ac7e84f0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Entertaining at the least.... -----Original Message----- From: Tom Welch Ladies and Gentlemen...wear Leather. If I could offer you only one tip for improving your life, leather would be it. The long term benefits of leather have been proved by serious bikers over many highways and many years, whereas wearing something unreliable like shorts and flipflops means you will experience a trip to the emergency room. There, uncaring nurses will scrub gravel out of your wounds, and doctors will dispense ineffective painkillers and meaningless advice... like telling you to trade that 'murdercycle' in for a Camry. Bull****. I will dispense some real advice right now. Enjoy the power and beauty of your ride; If you don't already; you can fully enjoy it by doing block-long smokey burnouts in the parking lot at the local drive-in. Trust me, in 20 years you'll look back at the photos of you and your pals on your bikes and recall in a way you can't grasp now how much fun you had and how fabulous you really looked hauling ass down the highway dressed in leather. Leather is as sexy as you imagine. Don't worry about what your Mom thinks; or worry, but know that worrying about what other people think is as effective as trying to scratch your nose in a blinding hailstorm at 80 m.p.h. with a full- face helmet and winter gloves on. The real troubles in your life are apt to be Volvo stationwagons, driven by some dipstick talking into his cell phone or doing her makeup; the kind that blindside you at 4 PM on some urban roadway and then claim you crashed into THEM. Do one thing everyday that scares other drivers... Lanesplit. Sing into your helmet. Use mouthwash first. Don't be reckless with other people's bikes, especially if you don't have insurance. Don't put up with people who mess with yours.... in fact, beat them with a chain. Ride Fast. Don't waste your money on chrome, or fancy paintjobs; spend it on racing or partying. Sometimes you're fast, sometimes you're slow. Sometimes you're hungover. The ride is long, and in the end, a cold beer tastes pretty damn good. Remember the good rides you've had, forget the cuts and bruises; try to wear out the sides of your tires before the middle.... if you succeed in doing this, tell me how. Keep your oil changed, throw away old traffic citations. Take chances. Don't feel guilty if you ride faster than the posted limit ...the most interesting people I know didn't know at 22 how to ride conservatively, all he most interesting 40 year olds I know still don't. Get plenty of saddle time. Be kind to your passengers, you'll miss them if they fall off. Maybe you'll crash, maybe you won't, maybe you'll have surgery, maybe you won't, maybe you'll ride a cruiser off a cliff doing 40, maybe you'll get a new motocrosser for your 75th birthday ...whatever you ride, don't congratulate yourself too much - your choices are 90% foreign,10% domestic, so are everyone else's. Enjoy your bike, use it every way you can...don't be afraid of it, or what other people think of it, it's the greatest instrument of pleasure you'll ever own, not counting porn sites and a fast modem. Wrench... even if you have nowhere to do it but in your hotel room. Read the owner's manual, even tho' you won't remember any of it. Do not read American motorcycle magazines, they will only make you wish you'd bought a British one instead. Get to know your brake pads, you never know when they'll be gone for good. Be nice to your tires; they are your link to the pavement and the things most likely to save your butt from a nasty highside. Understand that mechanics comes and mechanics go, but for a precious talented few you should pay them well and buy them sixpacks. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle because the older your bike gets, the more you'll need the mechanic who worked on it when it was young and still not paid off. Ride in New York City once, but leave before you get killed; ride in Northern California whenever possible, but leave a plausible excuse when calling in sick for work. Do lurid wheelies. Accept certain inalienable truths prices will rise, traffic will get worse, you too will get old, and when you do you'll fantasize that when you were young, gasoline was cheap, the highway patrol couldn't catch you, and Harley owners weren't all yuppies. Respect your rev-limiter. Don't expect anyone else to see your bike unless it has really loud pipes. Maybe your bike has a big gas tank, maybe a smaller one; but remember, either way you'll have to make bathroom stops. Don't mess too much with your carburetors, or by the time your done, you'll be walking home. Be careful whose advice you buy, and save your receipts. Don't take advice from those who supply it for free, especially if they own a Britbike. Motorcycle restoration is a form of self-torture. Doing it is a way of pulling the past from the dustbin, degreasing it, painting over the rusty parts and dumping way more money into it than it's worth. But trust me on the leather... Stolen from Nick on www.suzukihayabusa.org ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:47:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DlnSi030969; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:47:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DlmZm030962; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:47:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905134746.10510.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:47:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: This should improve people's driving... To: George.Cole@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A64196230428CD29@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii it looked to me like access to and mobility of the steering wheel is inhibited by the design.... --- George.Cole@XXXXXX wrote: > Actually, that could be handy for anyone who has to visit > several > clients > during a workday and ends up eating and working in the > car. > > Now if I saw someone using it while driving, I would have > a problem with > it. > > George > > >>> Perry Coleman 09/05/02 09:19AM >>> > Ohmygawd! Please tell me that's a joke. Please! > > Perry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:48:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DmFSi031003; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:48:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DmEYt030997; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:48:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Helmet report Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:47:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Here's an article on the MC News website concerning modular helmets... http://www.mcnews.com/mcnews/articles/ModularHelmets1.pdf gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:49:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DnXSi031063; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:49:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DnXd5031054; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:49:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <200209051349.g85DnVRK031036@dirty.meretrix.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:37:03 EDT." <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F9F6800@NCEAEXCHANGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <31034.1031233771.1@XXXXXX> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:49:31 -0400 From: harry@XXXXXX >This sucks, but I hesitate to make judgements about the rider's actions >knowing the bias most print media has in covering motorcycle issues. There >was a similar post on the CBR list some time ago about a rider doing an >extended wheelie but since it was at night, his headlight was pointed >skyward and the left turning car driver never saw him. It was also ruled >the cyclist's fault in that incident. Maybe I'm being a bit cynical here, but when a motorcyclist is killed in a collision with a car/truck, and then declared to be at fault, it seems to me that the witness testimony leading to that conclusion is likely to have come from the car driver, who is highly motivated to deflect blame. The motorcyclist isn't in much of a position to refute any account given by the car driver. -harry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:49:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DneSi031094; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:49:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DneWR031090; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:49:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [206.11.149.33] From: "Jeannette Zell" To: danthompson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:48:33 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 13:48:33.0479 (UTC) FILETIME=[ECF7A570:01C254E2] I guess when there's only one witness left to give the account, he could say anything he wants to. So sad. Rest in peace. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 >From: "Danny Thompson" >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: RE: Unfortunate >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:36:42 -0700 > >I hope this is not true. Mike was a friend and a good guy. He supported >racers, had a nice salvaged bike business (I bought a couple of SV's from >him along the way) and was a good rider (former racer). It doesn't seem >like >him to do this type of thing. My prayers go out to his family and friends. >Danny > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:55:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DtRSi031206; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:55:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DtQdW031198; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:55:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZMONaN9g6CWCecV0lq13wou7PNXj0bXqe/ByN/RnaUSW+bpZZjmjqquAV8tNuyYnQ= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:55:22 -0400 Message-ID: <006001c254e3$e23811f0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal It is truly sad to hear this; but it is pathetic that the m/c-ist (quite experienced, apparently) gets blamed...and isn't around to defend himself. --jon -----sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >From the UnFairtax Journal - Wheelie responsible for cyclist's death A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while doing a wheelie was responsible for a crash that took his life, Fairfax County police said. Michael John Orapello, 37, was driving his 2001 Suzuki GSXR 1000 on New Braddock Road in the Centreville area about 8:30 p.m. Saturday when he crashed into a Ford pickup truck, which caused him to be thrown onto the roadway, police said. As Joseph Allen Siler Jr., 45, of Clifton, attempted to make a left turn on Singletons Way in his truck, Orapello hit him, police said. Upon further investigation, Orapello was speeding and was at fault for the accident, police said Tuesday. Siler was slightly injured. - CLARISSA SPASYK [Dave] Something in this doesn't quite add up... Sad to hear... Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 09:58:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85DweSi031256; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:58:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85DweiV031246; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:58:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: Subject: RE: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:58:33 -0400 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <014801c254e4$55a86090$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85DwdSi031234 I don't think that is a fair thing to say. The police aren't so na)Bïve. When a death or serious accident has occurred the accident reconstruction unit gets involved and they are very impressive (IMHO) about being able to determine what happened as far as speeds and events occurred. I doubt they would of put blame w/o good physical evidence or a 3rd party witness. -Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette Zell [mailto:gingerdc9@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:49 AM > To: danthompson@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Unfortunate > > > I guess when there's only one witness left to give the > account, he could say > anything he wants to. > So sad. > Rest in peace. > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > >From: "Danny Thompson" > >Reply-To: > >To: > >Subject: RE: Unfortunate > >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:36:42 -0700 > > > >I hope this is not true. Mike was a friend and a good guy. > He supported > >racers, had a nice salvaged bike business (I bought a couple > of SV's from > >him along the way) and was a good rider (former racer). It > doesn't seem > >like > >him to do this type of thing. My prayers go out to his > family and friends. > >Danny > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:01:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85E1hSi031332; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:01:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85E1hbB031321; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:01:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 07:01:32 -0700 From: " Michael Jordan" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: mjordan812@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Sender: mjordan812@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 198.241.217.3 >A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while >doing a wheelie was responsible for a crash that >took his life, Fairfax County police said. Bummer I wheelied into a car once. Dented the passenger door and did something creative to my forks. Low speed, though... Bottom line - never trust a car and do your wheelies where there is no chance of cross traffic - there isn't a whole hell of a lot of control while one's front wheel is waving in the air. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:03:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85E3LSi031375; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:03:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85E3Kgf031368; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:03:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:02:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623042A202D@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Unfortunate Thread-Index: AcJU5PQnUCejDRa6TVSdmBZJaJ252w== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85E3JSi031350 Can some one post this in Non HTML format (ie text) It seems my company is filtering out HTML messages. Some are actually work related. George >>> sdave@XXXXXX 09/05/02 09:25AM >>> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:03:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85E3MSi031403; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:03:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85E3M0f031399; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:03:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Cc: Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:02:35 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85E3LSi031372 Dag.. I was afraid to hear that he was a cool person... unfortunately too often it is the cool people. Someone ring the man upstairs and tell him to stop whoarding all the cool people. it's when the good peple go makes me think i should be sinful so i can keep on keeping on... On the other hand, i'm pretty sure it's uncomparibly (ok that's not a word is it) better to be up there than down here. Danny From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:05:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85E5gSi031461; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:05:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85E5gpW031451; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:05:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020905100405.0232e728@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:05:39 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Unfortunate In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:01 AM 9/5/2002, Michael Jordan wrote: >Bottom line - never trust a car and do your wheelies where there is no chance >of cross traffic - there isn't a whole hell of a lot of control while one's >front wheel is waving in the air. New Braddock between Union Mill and 28 only has one cross street - the one where the accident occured. But the road is heavily trafficked. Bad idea (if he really was on one wheel). ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:08:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85E8XSi031508; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:08:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85E8Xi4031496; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:08:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:07:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <014801c254e4$55a86090$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> In-Reply-To: <014801c254e4$55a86090$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85E8VSi031484 yes, and i have yet to see where it was said there was only one witness On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:58:33 -0400, "Jim McGonigle" wrote: > >I don't think that is a fair thing to say. The police aren't so naïve. >When a death or serious accident has occurred the accident >reconstruction unit gets involved and they are very impressive (IMHO) >about being able to determine what happened as far as speeds and events >occurred. I doubt they would of put blame w/o good physical evidence or >a 3rd party witness. > >-Jim > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jeannette Zell [mailto:gingerdc9@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:49 AM >> To: danthompson@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: RE: Unfortunate >> >> >> I guess when there's only one witness left to give the >> account, he could say >> anything he wants to. >> So sad. >> Rest in peace. >> >> - Jeannette >> '86 VFR 700F2 >> http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 >> >> >From: "Danny Thompson" >> >Reply-To: >> >To: >> >Subject: RE: Unfortunate >> >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:36:42 -0700 >> > >> >I hope this is not true. Mike was a friend and a good guy. >> He supported >> >racers, had a nice salvaged bike business (I bought a couple >> of SV's from >> >him along the way) and was a good rider (former racer). It >> doesn't seem >> >like >> >him to do this type of thing. My prayers go out to his >> family and friends. >> >Danny >> > >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >> http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx >> >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:15:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85EF3Si031594; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:15:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85EF3dM031584; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:15:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:14:16 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> <006001c254e3$e23811f0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> In-Reply-To: <006001c254e3$e23811f0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85EF2Si031572 One could argue that an experienced cyclist would never allow himself to be in such a situation... but no ones perfect, and people slip up, people have accidents... I'm not here trying to make any judgements on who was at fault, but I personally believe in the tenent of.. if you have an accdient, it's your fault, for not riding in a matter to prevent it. I mean a car turned right from the middle lane and jammed on it's brakes just as i was going to pass it... and yes legally it was her fault, but to my own high standards, I allowed my self to be in a position to be hit, and that is my fault. I also am working on this theory... of life and after life and the big man upstairs says "when we call you home to heaven, how do you want to come? You want to go out in glory gone wrong, or do you want to die in some type of boring way? when it's your time, it's your time, now how do you want to go?" and we give our answers.... and there ya go. How you get to heaven doesn't really matter as long as it isnt' slow and painful... long as we get there is what counts in my book. Frankly, the sooner the better... not that there aren't some wonderful joys in this world, such as motorcycling.. but i'm sure there are even more up there, plus all the people we miss... So sorry, that's my perspective... I'm a squid, i try not to endanger myself and others, but i try to have fun too.. I'll have my accidents, and when ti's my time it's my time... but I'll have fun and more importantly, do like everyone does, try to be safe as a first priority. danny From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:17:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85EHdSi031750; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:17:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85EHcLY031735; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:17:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:16:51 -0400 Message-ID: <2npenuoketvisg4gudr65qh1a15l32j4es@4ax.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020905100405.0232e728@mail.troutman.org> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020905100405.0232e728@mail.troutman.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85EHbSi031723 yep any road with a lot of traffic, especially undivided on coming traffic is just as bad as an intersection. A man in montgomery county died when a stunt went wrong and he went into an oncoming car.. So for those of us who love the stunts, I remind you to be mindful to make sure there is no traffic around when you do it. I mean SURE. run off room would be nice too.. cuz hitting a tree and dying is dying all the same. Be safe out there while enjoying and living. Danny From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:19:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85EJrSi031798; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:19:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85EJqGD031783; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:19:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Tom Gimer Cc: danthompson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:19:05 -0400 Message-ID: <4rpenugsu48nur3k47qfbfppvpclv6r50n@4ax.com> References: <20020905134415.83943.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020905134415.83943.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85EJpSi031766 Collin was an invaluable education to the list.. I look forward to him posting more some day... it's too bad the bad part of life is that death is a part of life and that we have to lose the blessings of the presence of good people. THat's the bad thing about extending how long we live or eternal life.. if your body lives forever on it's own, then the only way ot die is from accidents. that's not exactly and upside. On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:44:15 -0700 (PDT), Tom Gimer wrote: >that's exactly where i remember the name. collin fagan >used to recommend him as a great source of racebikes and >re-titled streetbikes. > >shit. > > >--- Danny Thompson wrote: >> I hope this is not true. Mike was a friend and a good >> guy. He supported >> racers, had a nice salvaged bike business (I bought a >> couple of SV's from >> him along the way) and was a good rider (former racer). >> It doesn't seem like >> him to do this type of thing. My prayers go out to his >> family and friends. >> Danny >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 6:26 AM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: Unfortunate >> >> >> >From the UnFairtax Journal - >> >> Wheelie responsible for cyclist's death >> A Vienna man speeding on his motorcycle while doing a >> wheelie was >> responsible for a crash that took his life, Fairfax >> County police said. >> Michael John Orapello, 37, was driving his 2001 > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:34:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85EY1Si031930; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:34:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85EY1R3031920; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:34:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Sep 2002 14:33:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20020905143359.21684.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Unfortunate X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) "New Braddock Road in the Centreville area about 8:30 p.m. Saturday" [Dave] Wasn't it raining then ? It was at least dusk, and even the low beam - no matter where it was pointed - should've been visible. "Upon further investigation, Orapello was speeding and was at fault for the accident, police said Tuesday" [Dave] Probably went something like - "damn bubba, look how far that bike slid"... "definitely his fault"... just seems that something is amiss... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 10:34:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85EYaSi031958; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:34:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85EYZuM031952; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:34:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: This should improve people's driving... Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 10:34:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 14:34:28.0468 (UTC) FILETIME=[57119B40:01C254E9] Tom, If only I could believe that it would not be used when the vehicle is being operated. However, I'm inclined to think that it won't be long before some idiot-savant figures out how to use it while driving. I can see it now - Laptop with wireless NIC, streaming stock quotes, squirming porn and a Big Mac and Coke - all while weaving in and out of rush hour traffic on the Beltway at 80mph. Perry >From: Tom Gimer >To: George.Cole@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: This should improve people's driving... >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 06:47:46 -0700 (PDT) > >it looked to me like access to and mobility of the steering >wheel is inhibited by the design.... > > >--- George.Cole@XXXXXX wrote: > > Actually, that could be handy for anyone who has to visit > > several > > clients > > during a workday and ends up eating and working in the > > car. > > > > Now if I saw someone using it while driving, I would have > > a problem with > > it. > > > > George > > > > >>> Perry Coleman 09/05/02 09:19AM >>> > > Ohmygawd! Please tell me that's a joke. Please! > > > > Perry > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >http://finance.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 11:22:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85FMsSi032281; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:22:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85FMrVu032273; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:22:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Motor PsychoL Danny , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:20:37 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20020905132552.8119.qmail@server445.gisol.com> <006001c254e3$e23811f0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209051120371U.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 05 September 2002 10:14, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > One could argue that an experienced cyclist would never allow himself > to be in such a situation... but no ones perfect, and people slip up, > people have accidents... > On my way out this morning, I passed someone on a metric cruiser and he had what looked like slippers on; no socks, low cut, no laces. I waved and hit it. The curve just after the Gideon light on Dale Blvd heading to northbound is just too hard to avoid. One SUV in front, no one on the right, signal, pass, roll. Down curve to the left, up curve to the right, onramp to 95N. Not a sportbike twisty but exhilarating. In otherwords, in case it was missed. He wasn't dressed the best (IMHO) but my run down Dale Blvd wasn't all that much better even though I had gloves, vest and boots. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 11:27:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85FRqSi032331; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:27:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85FRpRa032324; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:27:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192764@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:28:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Vest? No pants? I'd be thinking the same thing you were thinking as I passed you, in my boots, pants, jacket, gloves, & full face. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Schelin [mailto:cschelin@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:21 AM To: Motor PsychoL Danny; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate On Thursday 05 September 2002 10:14, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > One could argue that an experienced cyclist would never allow himself > to be in such a situation... but no ones perfect, and people slip up, > people have accidents... > On my way out this morning, I passed someone on a metric cruiser and he had what looked like slippers on; no socks, low cut, no laces. He wasn't dressed the best (IMHO) but my run down Dale Blvd wasn't all that much better even though I had gloves, vest and boots. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 11:37:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85Fb6Si032407; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:37:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85Fb6C7032401; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:37:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 08:36:58 -0700 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Subject: Paging Rob Curtis Sender: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 65.36.86.136 Rob, Please contact me off list at my work email cpena@XXXXXX. Thanx! Chuck From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 11:39:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85FdFSi032470; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:39:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85FdFdr032461; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:39:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905153833.82104.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:38:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: RE: Unfortunate To: Rich Hall , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192764@SERVER1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've actually seen guys on sportbikes wearing sandals, shorts, no shirt, no gloves, and a helmet. But not a full face helmet. More like the ones you see the Harley guys wearing, a.k.a. halfie/beanie cap or whatever else they're known as. Sounds like a recipe for www.rotten.com Nick --- Rich Hall wrote: > Vest? No pants? I'd be thinking the same thing you > were thinking as I > passed you, in my boots, pants, jacket, gloves, & > full face. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Schelin [mailto:cschelin@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:21 AM > To: Motor PsychoL Danny; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Unfortunate > > On Thursday 05 September 2002 10:14, Motor PsychoL > Danny wrote: > > One could argue that an experienced cyclist would > never allow himself > > to be in such a situation... but no ones perfect, > and people slip up, > > people have accidents... > > > > On my way out this morning, I passed someone on a > metric cruiser and he had > what looked like slippers on; no socks, low cut, no > laces. > > He wasn't dressed the best (IMHO) but > my run down Dale Blvd wasn't all that much better > even though I had gloves, > vest and boots. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 11:42:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85FgpSi032650; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:42:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85FgpZ4032635; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:42:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Rich Hall , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:40:39 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192764@SERVER1> In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192764@SERVER1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209051140391V.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 05 September 2002 11:28, Rich Hall wrote: > Vest? No pants? I'd be thinking the same thing you were thinking as I > passed you, in my boots, pants, jacket, gloves, & full face. > I have to lose a couple of pounds first But I do have jeans on :/ and a full face. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 11:44:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85FitSi000332; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:44:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85FisgL000322; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:44:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD519276E@SERVER1> From: Damon Josue To: Nicholas Thompson , Rich Hall , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:45:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain The worst I saw was when driving back from Maine last year when two guys on sportsbikes, wearing Vans, no socks, shorts, no shirt, no helment while doing wheelies on a fairly heavily populated interstate. I was riding in the ole cage and looked over to my left and saw the wheelie go flying right by. Not much room for error if you ask me. -----Original Message----- From: Nicholas Thompson [mailto:sfdaytona@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:39 AM To: Rich Hall; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Unfortunate I've actually seen guys on sportbikes wearing sandals, shorts, no shirt, no gloves, and a helmet. But not a full face helmet. More like the ones you see the Harley guys wearing, a.k.a. halfie/beanie cap or whatever else they're known as. Sounds like a recipe for www.rotten.com Nick --- Rich Hall wrote: > Vest? No pants? I'd be thinking the same thing you > were thinking as I > passed you, in my boots, pants, jacket, gloves, & > full face. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Schelin [mailto:cschelin@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:21 AM > To: Motor PsychoL Danny; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Unfortunate > > On Thursday 05 September 2002 10:14, Motor PsychoL > Danny wrote: > > One could argue that an experienced cyclist would > never allow himself > > to be in such a situation... but no ones perfect, > and people slip up, > > people have accidents... > > > > On my way out this morning, I passed someone on a > metric cruiser and he had > what looked like slippers on; no socks, low cut, no > laces. > > He wasn't dressed the best (IMHO) but > my run down Dale Blvd wasn't all that much better > even though I had gloves, > vest and boots. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 11:56:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85FuRSi000549; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:56:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85FuRuL000539; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 11:56:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D777FDD.732430ED@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 12:01:33 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Perry Coleman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: This should improve people's driving... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perry Coleman wrote: > Tom, > > If only I could believe that it would not be used when the vehicle is being > operated. However, I'm inclined to think that it won't be long before some > idiot-savant figures out how to use it while driving. > > I can see it now - Laptop with wireless NIC, streaming stock quotes, > squirming porn and a Big Mac and Coke - all while weaving in and out of rush > hour traffic on the Beltway at 80mph. Handheld sat systems that gave streaming stock qoutes were available in the `80s. One of my retired friends had one. While driving he'd be checking the LCD readout and gasp, "Oh shit, better call my broker and dump that loser!" I'd be digging my fingernails into the dash and going "RED LIGHT!" Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 12:03:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85G3TSi000753; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:03:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85G3T9I000745; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:03:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <008c01c254f5$a54309f0$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD519276E@SERVER1> Subject: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:02:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 I'm coming in on Rt. 7 past Purceville in my truck, and I get behind a little red cage that won't get out of the left lane. I hate passing on the right. He then starts drifting further and further back from traffic. I see he is doing something. Then I see him turn the page on his newspaper. I was so pissed...I don't know why, but it really set me off. I passed on the right, and got back in the left lane as soon as I had a car length...then I tapped the brakes. I didn't slow down, just the lights were enough so I saw the newspaper go flying. Next time I'll take a deep breath and let it go. Ban cell phones? Hell, let me start a list. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 12:08:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85G8pSi000914; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:08:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85G8pkG000904; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:08:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020905120819.009ec7d0@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 12:09:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Unfortunate In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Mike J. wrote: >I wheelied into a car once. Dented the passenger door and did something >creative to my forks. I don't recall having heard this story before.... Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 12:10:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85GAeSi000974; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:10:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85GAdUL000963; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:10:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905161036.19202.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:10:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Today's Humor To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jennifer_addie@XXXXXX, benbean23@XXXXXX, bilslatt@XXXXXX, thomasajordan@XXXXXX, whiskeycreek@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020904223518.009f0390@mail.mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii sean: it's clear you were searching for something in particular. which did you eventually purchase for your throbbing sphincter? vibrator or broomstick? --- Sean Jordan wrote: > A real product listed on Amazon.com > > Read the reviews!!!! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/toys/B00005NEBW/custome/102-1422555-5345705 > > -s- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 12:23:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85GN7Si001320; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:23:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85GN7n8001310; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:23:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Sep 2002 16:23:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20020905162305.7060.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) >I'm coming in on Rt. 7 past Purceville in my truck, and I get behind a >little red cage that won't get out of the left lane. I hate passing on the >right. He then starts drifting further and further back from traffic. I >see he is doing something. Then I see him turn the page on his newspaper. [Dave] Mucking Foron. >I was so pissed...I don't know why, but it really set me off. I passed on >the right, and got back in the left lane as soon as I had a car >length...then I tapped the brakes. I didn't slow down, just the lights were >enough so I saw the newspaper go flying. [Dave] G*d damn right you were bad, why didn't you at least put that idiot in the ditch ? You *were* in a truck... >Next time I'll take a deep breath and let it go. [Dave] Let what go... A few rounds through his windows I hope... >Ban cell phones? Hell, let me start a list. [Dave] It would be a big list... I've tried to be a good citizen (no really!), I've tried that silly #77 BS, ...It's worthless. Cops around here only want speeders, because that's where the money is. Dare I ask - what MAKE of cage it was ? Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 12:33:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85GXeSi001524; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:33:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85GXeQW001508; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:33:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 12:33:27 -0400 Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... From: Stephen Miller To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20020905162305.7060.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > > Dare I ask - what MAKE of cage it was ? > My guess right now is a Volvo, even though I rarely see red Volvos. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 12:34:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85GY9Si001554; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:34:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85GY8lk001549; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:34:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905163406.34655.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 09:34:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020905162305.7060.qmail@server445.gisol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Speaking of stupid drivers, I was heading out to Centerville one night at 2 am and saw something funny as hell. I was in my cage and noticed a guy in a brand new Nissan Altima (had paper tags) driving in the left lane without his lights on. He wouldn't move, so i hopped over 2 lanes and passed him. I was only going about 65 or so and the next thing I know this bastard is right next to me (literally inches from my car) I swerve as he passes. Now for the best part... I see him drift off into the right shoulder (right passed the exit for route 50) and slam into the jersey wall. The kicker was, he didn't stop!! This dumb ass kept going. I then dialed that #77 BS and nothing ever happened. If I had been on my bike I wouldn't be here telling that story right now. People often try to take chances (stupid ones) and drive drunk, read while driving, or whatever. This is the culprit of the majority of accidents. Nick --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > > >I'm coming in on Rt. 7 past Purceville in my truck, > and I get behind a > >little red cage that won't get out of the left > lane. I hate passing on the > >right. He then starts drifting further and further > back from traffic. I > >see he is doing something. Then I see him turn the > page on his newspaper. > > [Dave] Mucking Foron. > > > >I was so pissed...I don't know why, but it really > set me off. I passed on > >the right, and got back in the left lane as soon as > I had a car > >length...then I tapped the brakes. I didn't slow > down, just the lights were > >enough so I saw the newspaper go flying. > > [Dave] G*d damn right you were bad, why didn't you > at least put that idiot in the ditch ? You *were* > in a truck... > > > >Next time I'll take a deep breath and let it go. > > [Dave] Let what go... A few rounds through his > windows I hope... > > >Ban cell phones? Hell, let me start a list. > > [Dave] It would be a big list... > > I've tried to be a good citizen (no really!), I've > tried that silly #77 BS, ...It's worthless. Cops > around here only want speeders, because that's where > the money is. > > Dare I ask - what MAKE of cage it was ? > > Dave > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Powered by Wild On Web: > Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from > Anywhere in the World! > http://www.wildonweb.com > |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| > |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 12:34:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85GYTSi001607; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:34:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85GYT4x001601; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:34:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:38:19 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Gary Foreman cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... In-Reply-To: <008c01c254f5$a54309f0$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Gary Foreman wrote: > see he is doing something. Then I see him turn the page on his newspaper. > I was so pissed...I don't know why, but it really set me off. I passed on > the right, and got back in the left lane as soon as I had a car > length...then I tapped the brakes. I didn't slow down, just the lights were > enough so I saw the newspaper go flying. > That reminds me of a little fun a friend and I would have back in high school. We'd take his moms car out, I'd duck down in the passenger seat, enough to not be seen, but I could still see the road. He'd break out a map hold it up, blocking his view, with no hands on the wheel, I'd drive from the passenger side (I could reach the brake and gas and steer without any problems. People would honk, yell, etc. Priceless memories of stupidity! Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 12:47:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85GlSSi002036; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:47:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85GlSwF002029; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:47:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Jim McGonigle" To: "'Stephen Miller'" , Subject: RE: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:47:19 -0400 Organization: BroadSoft Message-ID: <01c701c254fb$e9459090$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: I thought the same but Volvo drivers are usually just very bad drivers and don't usually do as much of the cell phone/newspaper thing IMO. My guess would be a SUV or Mercedes. One of those types that think the highway was built for them... -Jim PS Is there a prize for winning? > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Miller [mailto:freecat@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:33 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... > > > > > > > Dare I ask - what MAKE of cage it was ? > > > > My guess right now is a Volvo, even though I rarely see red Volvos. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:08:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85H81Si002272; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:08:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85H814C002262; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:08:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020905130729.009f93b0@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:08:11 -0400 To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Today's Humor In-Reply-To: <20020905161036.19202.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.6.0.20020904223518.009f0390@mail.mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Gimer wrote: >sean: it's clear you were searching for something in >particular. which did you eventually purchase for your >throbbing sphincter? vibrator or broomstick? Hardy har har! This link was posted on the WERA BBS. (The poster on said BBS claims to have found it on yet another BBS.) Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:16:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85HGoSi002473; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:16:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85HGnph002463; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:16:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Damon Josue Cc: Nicholas Thompson , Rich Hall , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:16:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD519276E@SERVER1> In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD519276E@SERVER1> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85HGmSi002451 you know i ws going to say, technichally if you dont' fall off you dont need any gear... but who's to predict when you will and won't need it.. but shoot if you're going to add wheelies on the interstate to the equation, let's just say... pain and suffering waiting to happen. >sportsbikes, wearing Vans, no socks, shorts, no shirt, no helment while >doing wheelies on a fairly heavily populated interstate. I was riding in >the ole cage and looked over to my left and saw the wheelie go flying right >by. Not much room for error if you ask me. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:18:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85HIjSi002628; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:18:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85HIjWZ002618; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:18:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Gary Foreman" Cc: Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:18:00 -0400 Message-ID: <3c4fnu4m8b18111d0viodpnldk2llcm7eb@4ax.com> References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD519276E@SERVER1> <008c01c254f5$a54309f0$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> In-Reply-To: <008c01c254f5$a54309f0$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85HIhSi002601 Oh i thought you were going to say you assulted the car or driver.. hehe that was pretty good if you ask me... of course if you ask me what was warranted, shoulda followed him ot a light, and asked him fi he's going ot read or drive, don't do both. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:30:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85HUuSi002879; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:30:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85HUtXW002869; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:30:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905173051.84925.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:30:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Today's Humor To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020905130729.009f93b0@mail.mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Sean Jordan wrote: > Gimer wrote: > > >sean: it's clear you were searching for something in > >particular. which did you eventually purchase for your > >throbbing sphincter? vibrator or broomstick? > > > Hardy har har! > > This link was posted on the WERA BBS. (The poster on said > BBS claims to have found it on yet another BBS.) finger pointing?!?! oh how the mighty have fallen.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:31:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85HV1Si002918; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:31:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85HV1FZ002903; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:31:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: sdave@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:30:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20020905162305.7060.qmail@server445.gisol.com> In-Reply-To: <20020905162305.7060.qmail@server445.gisol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85HUxSi002889 Oh it was a truck? Shoot, i'd say do a traffic check, no one around.. yea.. jam on brakes and let that idiot rear end the truck... Oh by the way I was riding my 95 zx6r friday night... with some of my friends.. (in dc, around 14th and q headed downtown) we go to a red light.. the light turns green.. we pull off.. my bike stalls out.. I hit the start button, and am about to pull off again when there is a blaring horn behind me... for about 4 to 6 seconds and some woman yelling at me... so what do I do? I do what i always do when someone wants to be a jerk behind me, I slow down and make them wait even more... so I tap my brake just enough for the brake light to come on, and intend to turn around and play stupid putting my arm in the air and say " what? " but you know what happens.. 2 seconds later after this dumb bitch gets off her horn, and midway as i'm starting to turn around, the dumb bitch rear ends me at like 5 mph.. so the bumber like crams the back wheel makin the bike halt and fall over.. The pipe goes up into her grill and I just step off the bike as it falls. I can't tell you how good that actually made me feel cuz i know SHE HIT ME, her rates will go up, and her insurance company will be paying me money that goes to my pocket (and i already got spare parts). So the bitch pulls over.. acts like it's my fault. what a stupid bitch. So I was like yea, you want to fuss and honk, you caused this accdient, write your insurance info down, YOUR RATES are gonna go up. so she calls the police "can i get some help" and as soon as she said that an undercover car pulled up with two female officers. The dumb bitch never even asked if i was okay, and was whining about her car. The cops told her to get back in her car and gave her ass four tickets and were hanging out with us discussing how repulsive the driver was. Any accident where i'm not hurt, cuased by someone else, i'm happy cuz that means more thousands to my bank account (since my bikes are paid for). Score one for my pockets, score -1 for dumb ass impatient sorry ass driver! Oh yea it looked like she was holding her temple like she had a headache. heh heh heh. Danny From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:32:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85HWtSi003162; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:32:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85HWtgN003154; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:32:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: sdave@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:32:10 -0400 Message-ID: <685fnug15srcm7jj9d156thhbisoj3js9m@4ax.com> References: <20020905162305.7060.qmail@server445.gisol.com> In-Reply-To: <20020905162305.7060.qmail@server445.gisol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85HWsSi003142 Oh yea.. one more thing, the bitch was on her way to a club.. so she ruined her own night. what a dumb ass. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:36:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85HalSi003354; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:36:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85HalPn003344; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:36:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905173645.27657.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:36:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... To: Motor PsychoL Danny , sdave@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <685fnug15srcm7jj9d156thhbisoj3js9m@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It could have been worse, at least you weren't hurt!! Dude, you should so file a suit against her. Nick --- Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > Oh yea.. one more thing, the bitch was on her way to > a club.. > > so she ruined her own night. what a dumb ass. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:46:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85HkeSi003480; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:46:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85HkeC5003470; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:46:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905174638.26843.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:46:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... To: Nicholas Thompson , Motor PsychoL Danny , sdave@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020905173645.27657.qmail@web12303.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Nicholas Thompson wrote: > It could have been worse, at least you weren't hurt!! > > Dude, you should so file a suit against her. for what? he just told 300+ people that he wasn't injured. > --- Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > > Oh yea.. one more thing, the bitch was on her way to > > a club.. > > > > so she ruined her own night. what a dumb ass. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:54:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85HsvSi003592; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:54:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85Hsu2P003581; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:54:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:54:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 17:54:49.0464 (UTC) FILETIME=[54240780:01C25505] Danny, Sounds like a lot of new, factory, tupperware and a replacement, titanium hi-mount. Oh, and I'll bet your rear wheel got tweaked - and you know you can't really repair them - you'll need a new one. Of course, if she tweaked your rear wheel, you'll need new bearings, probably a new sprocket (which means a new chain and front sprocket, also.) I'm sure there are other billet brackets, etc. that are ruined as well. Sounds like payday, to me. Perry >From: Motor PsychoL Danny >To: sdave@XXXXXX >CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... >Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:30:15 -0400 > > >Oh it was a truck? Shoot, i'd say do a traffic check, no one around.. >yea.. jam on brakes and let that idiot rear end the truck... > > >Oh by the way I was riding my 95 zx6r friday night... with some of my >friends.. (in dc, around 14th and q headed downtown) we go to a red >light.. the light turns green.. we pull off.. my bike stalls out.. I >hit the start button, and am about to pull off again when there is a >blaring horn behind me... for about 4 to 6 seconds and some woman >yelling at me... > >so what do I do? I do what i always do when someone wants to be a >jerk behind me, I slow down and make them wait even more... so I >tap my brake just enough for the brake light to come on, and intend to >turn around and play stupid putting my arm in the air and say " what? >" > >but you know what happens.. 2 seconds later after this dumb bitch >gets off her horn, and midway as i'm starting to turn around, the dumb >bitch rear ends me at like 5 mph.. so the bumber like crams the back >wheel makin the bike halt and fall over.. The pipe goes up into her >grill and I just step off the bike as it falls. > >I can't tell you how good that actually made me feel cuz i know SHE >HIT ME, her rates will go up, and her insurance company will be paying >me money that goes to my pocket (and i already got spare parts). > >So the bitch pulls over.. acts like it's my fault. what a stupid >bitch. So I was like yea, you want to fuss and honk, you caused this >accdient, write your insurance info down, YOUR RATES are gonna go up. > >so she calls the police "can i get some help" and as soon as she said >that an undercover car pulled up with two female officers. The dumb >bitch never even asked if i was okay, and was whining about her car. >The cops told her to get back in her car and gave her ass four tickets >and were hanging out with us discussing how repulsive the driver was. > >Any accident where i'm not hurt, cuased by someone else, i'm happy >cuz that means more thousands to my bank account (since my bikes are >paid for). Score one for my pockets, score -1 for dumb ass impatient >sorry ass driver! > >Oh yea it looked like she was holding her temple like she had a >headache. heh heh heh. > > > >Danny _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 13:59:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85HxdSi003675; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:59:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85Hxcu5003666; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 13:59:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905175936.13554.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:59:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: '98 VTR for Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My baby is going up for sale. I've decided to get a standard SV650 and "trick it out." I don't really need the VTR's power for street riding and I would also like something more comfortable - hopefully someone here will feel differently! :^) 1998 VTR1000f Red 30k miles (approx.) Race-Tech fork springs Race-Tech gold valves Sargent World Sport seat (stock seat also) Stock pipes w/ bafflectomy (sound great) Tinted windscreen - dark smoke New brake pads front and rear (installed last night) Oil changes every 3k miles w/ Mobil 1 synthetic GenMar Bar Risers Gel grips Tank bra Condition is very good but with occasional small scratches normal for a bike of this age/mileage. Never wrecked. Clean title currently in the mail from paid-off finance company. I am the original owner. Bike was purchased in Spring of '99 at Loudoun Motorsports in Leesburg. I'm asking for $5400 or best offer. Cheers, Chris Weaver dccycles.com webmaster __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 14:06:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85I6xSi003812; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:06:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85I6wD9003803; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:06:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Perry Coleman" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 14:06:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85I6vSi003791 yea it wobbles at 90 and there are scratches on my frame! chaching! :) On Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:54:49 -0400, "Perry Coleman" wrote: >Danny, > >Sounds like a lot of new, factory, tupperware and a replacement, titanium >hi-mount. Oh, and I'll bet your rear wheel got tweaked - and you know you >can't really repair them - you'll need a new one. Of course, if she tweaked >your rear wheel, you'll need new bearings, probably a new sprocket (which >means a new chain and front sprocket, also.) I'm sure there are other billet >brackets, etc. that are ruined as well. > >Sounds like payday, to me. > >Perry > >>From: Motor PsychoL Danny >>To: sdave@XXXXXX >>CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >>Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... >>Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:30:15 -0400 >> >> >>Oh it was a truck? Shoot, i'd say do a traffic check, no one around.. >>yea.. jam on brakes and let that idiot rear end the truck... >> >> >>Oh by the way I was riding my 95 zx6r friday night... with some of my >>friends.. (in dc, around 14th and q headed downtown) we go to a red >>light.. the light turns green.. we pull off.. my bike stalls out.. I >>hit the start button, and am about to pull off again when there is a >>blaring horn behind me... for about 4 to 6 seconds and some woman >>yelling at me... >> >>so what do I do? I do what i always do when someone wants to be a >>jerk behind me, I slow down and make them wait even more... so I >>tap my brake just enough for the brake light to come on, and intend to >>turn around and play stupid putting my arm in the air and say " what? >>" >> >>but you know what happens.. 2 seconds later after this dumb bitch >>gets off her horn, and midway as i'm starting to turn around, the dumb >>bitch rear ends me at like 5 mph.. so the bumber like crams the back >>wheel makin the bike halt and fall over.. The pipe goes up into her >>grill and I just step off the bike as it falls. >> >>I can't tell you how good that actually made me feel cuz i know SHE >>HIT ME, her rates will go up, and her insurance company will be paying >>me money that goes to my pocket (and i already got spare parts). >> >>So the bitch pulls over.. acts like it's my fault. what a stupid >>bitch. So I was like yea, you want to fuss and honk, you caused this >>accdient, write your insurance info down, YOUR RATES are gonna go up. >> >>so she calls the police "can i get some help" and as soon as she said >>that an undercover car pulled up with two female officers. The dumb >>bitch never even asked if i was okay, and was whining about her car. >>The cops told her to get back in her car and gave her ass four tickets >>and were hanging out with us discussing how repulsive the driver was. >> >>Any accident where i'm not hurt, cuased by someone else, i'm happy >>cuz that means more thousands to my bank account (since my bikes are >>paid for). Score one for my pockets, score -1 for dumb ass impatient >>sorry ass driver! >> >>Oh yea it looked like she was holding her temple like she had a >>headache. heh heh heh. >> >> >> >>Danny > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 14:21:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85ILKSi003961; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:21:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85ILKYo003953; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:21:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C308@wash58.acs.org> From: Jason Picton To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:19:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am with you - take the deep breath... I used to similiar stuff in the past, but I am trying not to give in to the urge anymore... It's getting f*cking dangerous out there... A week or so back, I saw what I considered a REAALLLY bad case or road rage... I am tooling along on a 4 lane divided highway (with traffic lights every mile to 1 1/2 miles), when this dude in a beater ford probe passes me on the left hand shoulder (I was going with the flow of traffic - no possible way to go any faster). When he runs out of shoulder he delibrately swerves left into the grassy median (ass end almost breaks loose and could have gone into on coming traffic) and he delibrately rams a guy in a toyota tercel. I was stunned - it was definately delibrate... By the time I turned around (about a mile till I could turn around) a cop was already pulling up to the scene. Apparently, the guy in the tercel threw and hit the driver of the probe with a coke can though an open window. The probe driver (young looking dude) thought he was perfectly justified in running the other guy down and crashing into him. I don't know what started it or who started it or who is right, but I don't want to be on the road with people who let their frustrations get the better of them and take it to that kind of extreme.. I am definately not a prince and have been faaaar from perfect in my behaivor on the road, but jeeeez people are taking it kind of far when they start throwing crap out windows and ramming into people.. I am definately going to try and take a deep breathe and let it go in the future... Jason -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sent: 9/5/02 12:02 PM Subject: I was bad this morning... I'm coming in on Rt. 7 past Purceville in my truck, and I get behind a little red cage that won't get out of the left lane. I hate passing on the right. He then starts drifting further and further back from traffic. I see he is doing something. Then I see him turn the page on his newspaper. I was so pissed...I don't know why, but it really set me off. I passed on the right, and got back in the left lane as soon as I had a car length...then I tapped the brakes. I didn't slow down, just the lights were enough so I saw the newspaper go flying. Next time I'll take a deep breath and let it go. Ban cell phones? Hell, let me start a list. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 14:23:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85INsSi004037; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:23:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85INr0u004026; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:23:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD51927B1@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:24:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Where was this? -----Original Message----- From: Jason Picton [mailto:j_picton@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:19 PM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX ' Subject: RE: I was bad this morning... I am with you - take the deep breath... I used to similiar stuff in the past, but I am trying not to give in to the urge anymore... It's getting f*cking dangerous out there... A week or so back, I saw what I considered a REAALLLY bad case or road rage... I am tooling along on a 4 lane divided highway (with traffic lights every mile to 1 1/2 miles), when this dude in a beater ford probe passes me on the left hand shoulder (I was going with the flow of traffic - no possible way to go any faster). When he runs out of shoulder he delibrately swerves left into the grassy median (ass end almost breaks loose and could have gone into on coming traffic) and he delibrately rams a guy in a toyota tercel. I was stunned - it was definately delibrate... By the time I turned around (about a mile till I could turn around) a cop was already pulling up to the scene. Apparently, the guy in the tercel threw and hit the driver of the probe with a coke can though an open window. The probe driver (young looking dude) thought he was perfectly justified in running the other guy down and crashing into him. I don't know what started it or who started it or who is right, but I don't want to be on the road with people who let their frustrations get the better of them and take it to that kind of extreme.. I am definately not a prince and have been faaaar from perfect in my behaivor on the road, but jeeeez people are taking it kind of far when they start throwing crap out windows and ramming into people.. I am definately going to try and take a deep breathe and let it go in the future... Jason -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sent: 9/5/02 12:02 PM Subject: I was bad this morning... I'm coming in on Rt. 7 past Purceville in my truck, and I get behind a little red cage that won't get out of the left lane. I hate passing on the right. He then starts drifting further and further back from traffic. I see he is doing something. Then I see him turn the page on his newspaper. I was so pissed...I don't know why, but it really set me off. I passed on the right, and got back in the left lane as soon as I had a car length...then I tapped the brakes. I didn't slow down, just the lights were enough so I saw the newspaper go flying. Next time I'll take a deep breath and let it go. Ban cell phones? Hell, let me start a list. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 14:46:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85IkiSi004260; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:46:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85IkhMu004250; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:46:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Jason Picton , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:44:26 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C308@wash58.acs.org> In-Reply-To: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C308@wash58.acs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090514442621.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Someone threw two beer bottles at me about, geeze, 15 years ago. It's a class four felony in VA. Since I had my "Car Wars: Autodueling" bumper sticker on my car, they tried to say I started it. I had to bring my Car Wars game in to the prosecuter and explain the _board_game_ to him. The best part was in court. They brought some Alexandria high priced lawyer down to Stafford. When he popped up in court at something the prosecuter said, the judge told him to shut up and sit down. The guy who admitted to throwing the bottles got 45 days in the county slammer. At the time, I was driving home with my (ex-)wife, her brother, and my two kids in a blue fairmont. We had just got on 95N from Rt 3 in F'burg. I merged over into the left lane and settled down for a ride to Stafford, two exits away. An old lady was blocking the left lane so the car in front of me moved over and passed on the right. I moved over and passed and moved back to the left lane. About a minute later, I noticed a brown car towing a boat in the center lane swaying badly and slowing gaining. I said to my wife, "if you want to see someone crazy, check out the guys coming up on the center lane." As they moved next to us, we noticed they were cursing and yelling at us. We were totally puzzled as they slowed down. Next a white car moved from the right lane to in front of us. The passenger opened the door, leaned out, and threw a green bigmouthed beer bottle at the car. At the same time, the driver slammed on the brakes. Beer all over the windshield, us ducking, and the guy hitting the brakes and we tapped the rear of his car. I moved over to the center lane, they slowed down. As I yelled over to them "What are you doing?!", the guy threw another bottle at us hitting the center post of the window raining beer and glass into the car. I ducked, swerved and hit his right side. We moved over to the left to exchange information (automatic reaction). Before I had a chance to do anything but put it into park, the driver hopped out yelling that I'd hit his car. He reached in and grabbed my shirt. I leaned to the right to get away and moved the car into drive slowly moving out. I found out later that my brother in law had stepped out of the car when we stopped. As I'm moving forward, the brown car with the boat had pulled up ahead of the white car. The two guys hopped out and were coming back. I slowed down enough to let Chad in and then accelerated. They moved out of the way. Good thing as I wasn't stopping. I pulled into the sherrif's station and let them know what was going on. Later I found that a state cop was driving south at the time. He turned around and came back up to the scene. The driver had driven off to catch me (him in a newish looking white car, me with 4 other people in a Fairmont). the guy in the white car drove down the last exit and stopped then walked to the accident scene. The cop said that they were all so drunk he was going to arrest them all for public drunkeness but didn't. Afterwards, we found out they thought we were someone else they were having a freeway feud with from the Thorton exit (they had spent the day on Lake Anna). I explained that we were coming from my mom's house after helping her all day because my dad had just died a few days prior and that we got on at Rt 3. Whew, I didn't think I was going to write that much. Sorry about that folks. Carl, who normally just moves over and lets them by. On Thursday 05 September 2002 14:19, Jason Picton wrote: > I am with you - take the deep breath... I used to similiar stuff in the > past, but I am trying not to give in to the urge anymore... It's getting > f*cking dangerous out there... > > A week or so back, I saw what I considered a REAALLLY bad case or road > rage... I am tooling along on a 4 lane divided highway (with traffic lights > every mile to 1 1/2 miles), when this dude in a beater ford probe passes me > on the left hand shoulder (I was going with the flow of traffic - no > possible way to go any faster). When he runs out of shoulder he delibrately > swerves left into the grassy median (ass end almost breaks loose and could > have gone into on coming traffic) and he delibrately rams a guy in a toyota > tercel. > > I was stunned - it was definately delibrate... By the time I turned around > (about a mile till I could turn around) a cop was already pulling up to the > scene. > > Apparently, the guy in the tercel threw and hit the driver of the probe > with a coke can though an open window. The probe driver (young looking > dude) thought he was perfectly justified in running the other guy down and > crashing into him. I don't know what started it or who started it or who is > right, but I don't want to be on the road with people who let their > frustrations get the better of them and take it to that kind of extreme.. > > I am definately not a prince and have been faaaar from perfect in my > behaivor on the road, but jeeeez people are taking it kind of far when they > start throwing crap out windows and ramming into people.. > > I am definately going to try and take a deep breathe and let it go in the > future... > > Jason > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Foreman > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Sent: 9/5/02 12:02 PM > Subject: I was bad this morning... > > I'm coming in on Rt. 7 past Purceville in my truck, and I get behind a > little red cage that won't get out of the left lane. I hate passing on > the > right. He then starts drifting further and further back from traffic. > I > see he is doing something. Then I see him turn the page on his > newspaper. > I was so pissed...I don't know why, but it really set me off. I passed > on > the right, and got back in the left lane as soon as I had a car > length...then I tapped the brakes. I didn't slow down, just the lights > were > enough so I saw the newspaper go flying. > > Next time I'll take a deep breath and let it go. > > Ban cell phones? Hell, let me start a list. -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 14:54:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85IsrSi004358; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:54:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85IsqKc004348; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:54:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Sep 2002 18:54:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20020905185451.30533.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: I was bad this morning... X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) >I am with you - take the deep breath... ... I am tooling along on a 4 lane divided highway (with traffic lights >every mile to 1 1/2 miles), when this dude in a beater ford probe passes me >on the left hand shoulder (I was going with the flow of traffic - no >possible way to go any faster). When he runs out of shoulder he delibrately >swerves left into the grassy median (ass end almost breaks loose and could >have gone into on coming traffic) and he delibrately rams a guy in a toyota >tercel. >I was stunned - it was definately delibrate... By the time I turned around >(about a mile till I could turn around) a cop was already pulling up to the >scene. >Apparently, the guy in the tercel threw and hit the driver of the probe with >a coke can though an open window. [Dave] In VA, we have - )B§ 18.2-154. Shooting at or throwing missiles, etc., at train, car, vessel, etc.; penalty. Any person who maliciously shoots at, or maliciously throws any missile at or against, any train or cars on any railroad or other transportation company or any vessel or other watercraft, or any motor vehicle or other vehicles when occupied by one or more persons, whereby the life of any person on such train, car, vessel, or other watercraft, or in such motor vehicle or other vehicle, may be put in peril, shall be guilty of a Class 4 felony. In the event of the death of any such person, resulting from such malicious shooting or throwing, the person so offending shall be deemed guilty of murder, the degree to be determined by the jury or the court trying the case without a jury.... With good freakin' reason too, as said coke can could easily result in the death of you, your passengers, and possibly innocent bystanders. The probe driver (young looking dude) >thought he was perfectly justified in running the other guy down and >crashing into him. [Dave] Here's the rub, I'll bet the cops (wrongly) said something to the effect of 'if we didn't see it, we can't arrest them for it', hauled off Mr. Probe driver & let Mr. Tercel driver go... I don't know what started it or who started it or who is >right, but I don't want to be on the road with people who let their >frustrations get the better of them and take it to that kind of extreme.. [Dave] Glad you didn't get tangled up in it.. The 'Me 1st' driving attitude around here is ridiculous. I've been to a few major cities in my day, including, but not limited to NY, Philly, Pittsburgh, Boston, Seattle, Charlotte, and all of them put together don't equal the rudeness of the typical DC Metro driver. Seattle was laughable - yes I'm talking about their alleged rush hour (if you can call it that). I almost didn't know how to drive there, everyone was actually polite. They could even - get this - drive in the rain ! Even their taxicab drivers. >I am definately not a prince and have been faaaar from perfect in my >behaivor on the road, but jeeeez people are taking it kind of far when they >start throwing crap out windows and ramming into people.. [Dave] We've all had our moments. I distinctly remember the infamous DCC 'cage kicking' thread a few years back (anyone remember who that was?) >I am definately going to try and take a deep breathe and let it go in the >future... [Dave] a few laps at AllsportGP, or double tapping a b27 until there's nothing but a giant hole in the center works great at relieving tension... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:02:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85J2pSi004479; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:02:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85J2oQS004469; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:02:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [206.11.149.33] From: "Jeannette Zell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:02:42 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 19:02:43.0032 (UTC) FILETIME=[D02D2D80:01C2550E] Looks like there was more to the story. >From another list: This was my good friend - and some here may have known Mike or knew of him. He sold used bikes out of Clifton, VA - specializing in sportbikes and track bikes. He was an independent auto dealer as well, dealing in mainly Mercedes and BMWs. He was killed on a GSXR1000, as his girlfriend followed on her VFR and another rider followed. They had just finished riding for the night and on their way home. I had elected to skip the ride and we were going to meet up down town when they finished. Mike had been riding for over a decade and never had a street accident until this one. He came over a small hill, to an intersection that had set the lights to "blinking" and the truck made the left in front of him. He was killed instantly, albeit perhaps one of the most violent accidents imaginable. His funeral will be in upstate NY at the end of the week, but there are plans to have a local memorial here in the area. If you knew Mike and would like more information about local services, please email me - kierball@y... and I will pass them along to you when they are set. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:07:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85J7RSi004557; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:07:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85J7Qpp004544; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:07:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:07:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... In-Reply-To: <02090514442621.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Carl Schelin wrote: > Since I had my "Car Wars: Autodueling" bumper sticker on my car, they > tried to say I started it. I had to bring my Car Wars game in to the > prosecuter and explain the _board_game_ to him. Heh. That'd be easier these days: they've just released a new (and much simpler) edition. Even lawyers could probably understand it. Fish. drive offensively, brother From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:17:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85JHBSi004648; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:17:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85JHBNL004638; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:17:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020905151625.0228c138@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:17:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: RE: I was bad this morning... In-Reply-To: <20020905185451.30533.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:54 PM 9/5/2002, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >[Dave] We've all had our moments. I distinctly remember the infamous DCC >'cage kicking' thread a few years back (anyone remember who that was?) I scanned the archives but 'cage' and 'boot' were not productive. I did find this tasty morsel though. http://www.dccycles.com/arch/01/07/jul00671 ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:17:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85JHcSi004679; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:17:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85JHcD8004675; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:17:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Jason Picton Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:16:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C308@wash58.acs.org> In-Reply-To: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C308@wash58.acs.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85JHbSi004658 Yea he shoulda followed him to a destination and proceded to do a tire iron brain check. ok ok ok he shoulda called the police and followed him and had him arrested for road rage. option #1 sounds like more fun tho >Apparently, the guy in the tercel threw and hit the driver of the probe with >a coke can though an open window. The probe driver (young looking dude) >thought he was perfectly justified in running the other guy down and From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:23:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85JN9Si004923; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:23:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85JN9tN004914; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:23:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Carl Schelin , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:22:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C308@wash58.acs.org> <02090514442621.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> In-Reply-To: <02090514442621.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85JN8Si004902 45 days for something which could have killed several people and children and group drunk driving... yea VA needed to get tougher... On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:44:26 -0400, Carl Schelin wrote: >Someone threw two beer bottles at me about, geeze, 15 years ago. It's a class >four felony in VA. Since I had my "Car Wars: Autodueling" bumper sticker on >my car, they tried to say I started it. I had to bring my Car Wars game in to >the prosecuter and explain the _board_game_ to him. > >The best part was in court. They brought some Alexandria high priced lawyer >down to Stafford. When he popped up in court at something the prosecuter >said, the judge told him to shut up and sit down. > >The guy who admitted to throwing the bottles got 45 days in the county >slammer. > >At the time, I was driving home with my (ex-)wife, her brother, and my two >kids in a blue fairmont. We had just got on 95N from Rt 3 in F'burg. I merged >over into the left lane and settled down for a ride to Stafford, two exits >away. An old lady was blocking the left lane so the car in front of me moved >over and passed on the right. I moved over and passed and moved back to the >left lane. About a minute later, I noticed a brown car towing a boat in the >center lane swaying badly and slowing gaining. I said to my wife, "if you >want to see someone crazy, check out the guys coming up on the center lane." > >As they moved next to us, we noticed they were cursing and yelling at us. We >were totally puzzled as they slowed down. Next a white car moved from the >right lane to in front of us. The passenger opened the door, leaned out, and >threw a green bigmouthed beer bottle at the car. At the same time, the driver >slammed on the brakes. Beer all over the windshield, us ducking, and the guy >hitting the brakes and we tapped the rear of his car. > >I moved over to the center lane, they slowed down. As I yelled over to them >"What are you doing?!", the guy threw another bottle at us hitting the center >post of the window raining beer and glass into the car. I ducked, swerved and >hit his right side. > >We moved over to the left to exchange information (automatic reaction). >Before I had a chance to do anything but put it into park, the driver hopped >out yelling that I'd hit his car. He reached in and grabbed my shirt. I >leaned to the right to get away and moved the car into drive slowly moving >out. > >I found out later that my brother in law had stepped out of the car when we >stopped. As I'm moving forward, the brown car with the boat had pulled up >ahead of the white car. The two guys hopped out and were coming back. I >slowed down enough to let Chad in and then accelerated. They moved out of the >way. Good thing as I wasn't stopping. > >I pulled into the sherrif's station and let them know what was going on. > >Later I found that a state cop was driving south at the time. He turned >around and came back up to the scene. The driver had driven off to catch me >(him in a newish looking white car, me with 4 other people in a Fairmont). >the guy in the white car drove down the last exit and stopped then walked to >the accident scene. > >The cop said that they were all so drunk he was going to arrest them all for >public drunkeness but didn't. > >Afterwards, we found out they thought we were someone else they were having a >freeway feud with from the Thorton exit (they had spent the day on Lake >Anna). I explained that we were coming from my mom's house after helping her >all day because my dad had just died a few days prior and that we got on at >Rt 3. > >Whew, I didn't think I was going to write that much. Sorry about that folks. > >Carl, who normally just moves over and lets them by. > >On Thursday 05 September 2002 14:19, Jason Picton wrote: >> I am with you - take the deep breath... I used to similiar stuff in the >> past, but I am trying not to give in to the urge anymore... It's getting >> f*cking dangerous out there... >> >> A week or so back, I saw what I considered a REAALLLY bad case or road >> rage... I am tooling along on a 4 lane divided highway (with traffic lights >> every mile to 1 1/2 miles), when this dude in a beater ford probe passes me >> on the left hand shoulder (I was going with the flow of traffic - no >> possible way to go any faster). When he runs out of shoulder he delibrately >> swerves left into the grassy median (ass end almost breaks loose and could >> have gone into on coming traffic) and he delibrately rams a guy in a toyota >> tercel. >> >> I was stunned - it was definately delibrate... By the time I turned around >> (about a mile till I could turn around) a cop was already pulling up to the >> scene. >> >> Apparently, the guy in the tercel threw and hit the driver of the probe >> with a coke can though an open window. The probe driver (young looking >> dude) thought he was perfectly justified in running the other guy down and >> crashing into him. I don't know what started it or who started it or who is >> right, but I don't want to be on the road with people who let their >> frustrations get the better of them and take it to that kind of extreme.. >> >> I am definately not a prince and have been faaaar from perfect in my >> behaivor on the road, but jeeeez people are taking it kind of far when they >> start throwing crap out windows and ramming into people.. >> >> I am definately going to try and take a deep breathe and let it go in the >> future... >> >> Jason >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gary Foreman >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Sent: 9/5/02 12:02 PM >> Subject: I was bad this morning... >> >> I'm coming in on Rt. 7 past Purceville in my truck, and I get behind a >> little red cage that won't get out of the left lane. I hate passing on >> the >> right. He then starts drifting further and further back from traffic. >> I >> see he is doing something. Then I see him turn the page on his >> newspaper. >> I was so pissed...I don't know why, but it really set me off. I passed >> on >> the right, and got back in the left lane as soon as I had a car >> length...then I tapped the brakes. I didn't slow down, just the lights >> were >> enough so I saw the newspaper go flying. >> >> Next time I'll take a deep breath and let it go. >> >> Ban cell phones? Hell, let me start a list. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:27:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85JRESi004987; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:27:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85JREsX004980; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:27:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:26:30 -0400 Message-ID: <1ubfnu0qc24e2a7rtmh1rfimhfmq1r6ejf@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g85JRCSi004968 wasn't that on this list? I remember reading it somewhere. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:31:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85JV7Si005080; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:31:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85JV7mh005070; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:31:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Sep 2002 19:31:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20020905193107.27473.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: RE: I was bad this morning... X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) A HA ! It was McCOY ! http://www.dccycles.com/arch/98/09/sep01059 Dave --------Original Message-------- From: mike@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sent: Sep)B 05 2002 15:17 Subject: Re: RE: I was bad this morning... >At 02:54 PM 9/5/2002, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >>[Dave] We've all had our moments. I distinctly remember the infamous DCC >>'cage kicking' thread a few years back (anyone remember who that was?) >I scanned the archives but 'cage' and 'boot' were not productive. I did >find this tasty morsel though. >http://www.dccycles.com/arch/01/07/jul00671 >___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > 1997 Honda VFR 750 > AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ > NMA http://www.motorists.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:32:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85JWqSi005125; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:32:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85JWquR005117; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:32:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <002701c25513$01f9e890$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: References: Subject: Re: Bike Night reminder Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:32:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Is there a meeting tonight in Rockville? I have forgotten when and where. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:21 AM Subject: Bike Night reminder > Just reminder that this Sunday Sept 8th is the last Bike Night of 2002 (and > probably the last one that Mark and I do). CarPool in Arlington, VA. 6-10pm. > Reserved motorcycle parking. Details and more info on the website > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight. Hope to have a big crowd. > > Chuck > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:35:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85JZRSi005172; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:35:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85JZRqX005165; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:35:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [206.11.149.33] From: "Jeannette Zell" To: motorcycle@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:35:19 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 19:35:19.0974 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E9AD460:01C25513] If so, I missed it. I saw it on DC Sportbike. There were a few people arguing that the cops couldn't have gotten it wrong, so I was offering another view. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 >From: Motor PsychoL Danny >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Unfortunate >Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:26:30 -0400 > >wasn't that on this list? I remember reading it somewhere. > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:38:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85JcrSi005470; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:38:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85JcrTG005460; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:38:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020905153751.022a0bd0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:38:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Re: RE: I was bad this morning... In-Reply-To: <20020905193107.27473.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:31 PM 9/5/2002, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >A HA ! It was McCOY ! >http://www.dccycles.com/arch/98/09/sep01059 God my memory is bad. I read that archive through to the end before realizing I wrote the post. I don't even remember doing that. Guess that is why we have archives. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 15:40:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85Je1Si005531; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:40:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85Je1Bw005523; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:40:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905193959.34877.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 12:39:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: RE: I was bad this morning... To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020905151625.0228c138@mail.troutman.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii brain mccoy 364 "cars suck" t-shirts hanging in the closet --- Troutman wrote: > At 02:54 PM 9/5/2002, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > >[Dave] We've all had our moments. I distinctly > remember the infamous DCC > >'cage kicking' thread a few years back (anyone remember > who that was?) > > I scanned the archives but 'cage' and 'boot' were not > productive. I did > find this tasty morsel though. > > http://www.dccycles.com/arch/01/07/jul00671 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 16:10:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85KAPSi005788; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:10:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85KANIa005778; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:10:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <010f01c25518$21dbe370$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: References: <20020905162305.7060.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:06:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 It was either a newer Chevy Cavalier or a body style closely resembling that. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:23 PM Subject: Re: I was bad this morning... > > >I'm coming in on Rt. 7 past Purceville in my truck, and I get behind a > >little red cage that won't get out of the left lane. I hate passing on the > >right. He then starts drifting further and further back from traffic. I > >see he is doing something. Then I see him turn the page on his newspaper. > > [Dave] Mucking Foron. > > > >I was so pissed...I don't know why, but it really set me off. I passed on > >the right, and got back in the left lane as soon as I had a car > >length...then I tapped the brakes. I didn't slow down, just the lights were > >enough so I saw the newspaper go flying. > > [Dave] G*d damn right you were bad, why didn't you at least put that idiot in the ditch ? You *were* in a truck... > > > >Next time I'll take a deep breath and let it go. > > [Dave] Let what go... A few rounds through his windows I hope... > > >Ban cell phones? Hell, let me start a list. > > [Dave] It would be a big list... > > I've tried to be a good citizen (no really!), I've tried that silly #77 BS, ...It's worthless. Cops around here only want speeders, because that's where the money is. > > Dare I ask - what MAKE of cage it was ? > > Dave > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Powered by Wild On Web: > Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! > http://www.wildonweb.com > |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| > |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 16:13:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85KDlSi005843; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:13:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85KDklT005828; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:13:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Sep 2002 20:13:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20020905201345.28255.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: RE: I was bad this morning... X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Gimer fondly remembers - >brain mccoy >364 "cars suck" t-shirts hanging in the closet [Dave] You mean McCoy goes to the trouble of HANGING them ? ! That's just anal... ;-) Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 16:15:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85KF9Si005903; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:15:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85KF8kH005888; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:15:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [164.62.7.20] From: "Sanath S" To: macda@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Night reminder Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 16:14:00 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Sep 2002 20:14:01.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[C61A65B0:01C25518] Barnes and Noble on Rockville Pike.. around 8 >From: "S. Russell" >To: >Subject: Re: Bike Night reminder >Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:32:43 -0400 > >Is there a meeting tonight in Rockville? I have forgotten when and where. > >Scott > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:21 AM >Subject: Bike Night reminder > > > > Just reminder that this Sunday Sept 8th is the last Bike Night of 2002 >(and > > probably the last one that Mark and I do). CarPool in Arlington, VA. >6-10pm. > > Reserved motorcycle parking. Details and more info on the website > > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight. Hope to have a big crowd. > > > > Chuck > > _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 16:24:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85KOVSi005962; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:24:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85KOVEQ005952; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:24:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 5 Sep 2002 20:24:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20020905202430.4230.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: DCC history - was RE: I was bad this morning... X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Troutman lamented: >At 03:31 PM 9/5/2002, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >>A HA ! It was McCOY ! >>http://www.dccycles.com/arch/98/09/sep01059 >God my memory is bad. I read that archive through to the end before >realizing I wrote the post. I don't even remember doing that. [Dave] Dude. It was 4 years ago... I'll wager that's not the only cage discipline event at the hands - or feet - of a DCC member... the good ol' days... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 16:51:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85KpOSi006203; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:51:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85KpOYn006193; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 16:51:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:51:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: [OT] WV Campgrounds? Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SWMBO and I are thinking of going camping this coming weekend in West Virginia. Anyone have a link to a website listing good campgrounds in WV? Thanks, Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 17:14:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85LEwSi006398; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:14:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85LEvxp006388; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:14:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905211238.58056.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:12:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: [OT] WV Campgrounds? To: Fish Flowers , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.rvpark.com/wva.htm --- Fish Flowers wrote: > SWMBO and I are thinking of going camping this coming > weekend in West > Virginia. Anyone have a link to a website listing good > campgrounds in > WV? > > Thanks, > > Fish. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 17:16:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85LGoSi006442; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:16:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85LGntr006433; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:16:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:14:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Unfortunate In-Reply-To: <20020905153833.82104.qmail@web12304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020905141305.N35841-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > I've actually seen guys on sportbikes wearing sandals, > shorts, no shirt, no gloves, and a helmet. But not a > full face helmet. More like the ones you see the > Harley guys wearing, a.k.a. halfie/beanie cap or > whatever else they're known as. Sounds like a recipe > for www.rotten.com A dude on a Gixxer1k at Iron Works last night rode in with one of those little 1/2 helmets on. I was one of 2 people wearing full gear and the other person came in with me. :-\ -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 17:21:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85LLhSi006507; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:21:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85LLgMJ006496; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:21:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:19:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I was bad this morning... In-Reply-To: <01c701c254fb$e9459090$4b01a8c0@jmcgonigle> Message-ID: <20020905141703.Y35841-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Jim McGonigle wrote: > I thought the same but Volvo drivers are usually just very bad drivers > and don't usually do as much of the cell phone/newspaper thing IMO. > > My guess would be a SUV or Mercedes. One of those types that think the > highway was built for them... > > -Jim Riddle me this, Batman... how does the make of a vehicle determine how someone drives? My wife drives all of our cars and she's an awful driver :-) -- Wayne 'Mercedes, Audi, Pontiac, GMC...' :-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 17:44:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85LiHSi006689; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:44:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85LiHrk006679; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:44:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020905214248.65411.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:42:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: I was bad this morning... To: Wayne Edelen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020905141703.Y35841-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Wayne Edelen wrote: > On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Jim McGonigle wrote: > > > I thought the same but Volvo drivers are usually just > very bad drivers > > and don't usually do as much of the cell > phone/newspaper thing IMO. > > > > My guess would be a SUV or Mercedes. One of those > types that think the > > highway was built for them... > > > > -Jim > > Riddle me this, Batman... how does the make of a vehicle > determine how > someone drives? My wife drives all of our cars and she's > an awful driver > :-) > > -- Wayne 'Mercedes, Audi, Pontiac, GMC...' :-) jesus...it's called stereotyping. get with the program already, mr. trustafarian! -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 17:48:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85LmZSi006738; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:48:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85LmYjd006729; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 17:48:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 14:46:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I was bad this morning... In-Reply-To: <20020905214248.65411.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020905144455.B35841-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > > Riddle me this, Batman... how does the make of a vehicle > > determine how > > someone drives? My wife drives all of our cars and she's > > an awful driver > > :-) > > > > -- Wayne 'Mercedes, Audi, Pontiac, GMC...' :-) > > jesus...it's called stereotyping. get with the program > already, mr. trustafarian! Trustafarian? Hardly. Don't you have an ambulance to chase? :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 18:14:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85MEOSi006976; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:14:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85MEOqR006966; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:14:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" To: Subject: RE: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 18:15:52 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c25529$cf50e300$2784c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020905141703.Y35841-100000@magoo.noid.org> Importance: Normal Wayne Wondered Riddle me this, Batman... how does the make of a vehicle determine how someone drives? [Dave] Just when we think you've become part of the family... You ask a question like that... ... What are we going to do with you? ;-) Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 19:49:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g85NnvSi007777; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:49:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g85NnumJ007770; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 19:49:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 13:09:59 -0700 From: " Michael Jordan" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: mjordan812@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Unfortunate Sender: mjordan812@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 198.241.217.3 >>I wheelied into a car once. Dented the >>passenger door and did something >>creative to my forks. >I don't recall having heard this story before.... >Sean Jordan Do you think that I tell you everything? 'Twas the summer of '67 in Midwest City, OK - I was on my '66 BSA Lightning. Whilst attempting to leave a drive-in restaurant in style, I popped the front wheel up. About that time, a girl in a car decided that she was going to leave also... We intersected. I fell down The BSA handled funny after that From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 20:26:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g860PxSi008014; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:25:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g860PxNH008006; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:25:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <002b01c2553b$75ad0560$c93f2c42@c9rnf01> From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC Cycles _DCC" Subject: The real McCoy was:Re: RE: I was bad this morning... Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 20:22:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Date: 5 Sep 2002 19:31:07 -0000 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: RE: I was bad this morning... A HA ! It was McCOY ! http://www.dccycles.com/arch/98/09/sep01059 Dave ------------------------------------ LOFL!! Whew! T From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 5 22:09:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8629wSi008716; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:09:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8629vbA008706; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:09:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020905220849.02b5aa30@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rmeyer9@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:09:17 -0400 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Helmet report In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:47 AM 9/5/02 -0400, Bruhl, George LT wrote: >Here's an article on the MC News website concerning modular helmets... >http://www.mcnews.com/mcnews/articles/ModularHelmets1.pdf > > >gb To see the second page, with the actual ratings, look here: http://www.mcnews.com/mcnews/articles/ModularHelmets2.pdf From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 00:16:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g864GISi009414; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:16:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g864GFIT009402; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 00:16:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00db01c25554$52f384e0$3b7d4e0c@micron> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Rearviews again to the fore Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 23:20:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Tacking onto the other unfortunate current crash news -- How about the BDDTD (brain dead -- asleep) dump truck driver) who caused two deaths after rearending a cage at a Fair Oaks intersection in midafternoon? Sweating more at stops than at speed now. Rearviews are cratering from burning looks of mine. Bill S. / DC '99 VN750 > Please train me to leap high if necessary Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 02:00:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8660pSi009881; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 02:00:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8660oq8009871; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 02:00:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <196.cab2d36.2aa99e85@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 02:00:37 EDT Subject: guitars and motorcycles.. etc. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 hi everyone i moseyed on down to barnes and noble last night. it was a beautiful night for a ride! yet another dc-cycle guy can give validity to my girl status :) poor planning on my part brings me to a dilemma. somehow, i need to transport my acoustic/electric guitar in a softcase on my m/c to church on sunday morning. i considered wearing the case like a backpack but then the neck of the guitar will stand up real high and im afraid the wind might be too much for it. i also considered lying it flat across the backseat so that it would be perpendicular to the bike. OR i could fasten the belly of the guitar to the backseat and have the neck extend over the back. any suggestions? my other option is to just have someone else take his extra guitar to church for me to use. its kinda like riding someone else's bike tho -- doesn't feel quite right! also, im considering riding to western pa on saturday morning to hang out with my stepdad who just had surgery and wont be able to ride for at least 2 months! we'll be going to a poker run. im going to ride. he's just going to sit around and eat. anyone else headed towards western pa on saturday morning? despite an impromptu western pa trip and hauling my guitar to church, i still plan on being at bike night on sunday. jenn :) coke vs pepsi coke wins unless pepsi is on sale! 2002 purple monster. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 06:38:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86AcrSi011728; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 06:38:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Acqta011718; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 06:38:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7886FF.57A8BC72@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 06:44:15 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: guitars and motorcycles.. etc. References: <196.cab2d36.2aa99e85@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm... the softcase presents a problem. If you have a hard case I'd strap it (bungee) on the pillion seat, neck facing aft. I wouldn't want to have straps/bungees crunching the guitar body thru the softcase, so if you go that way figure out how to secure it without placing stress of the guitar. Had a similar prob with my bow. I thought it looked kinda cool strapped on my back, sorta like Tonto on the warpath - Take this, BDC! *twang -ffwwupp* But it was annoying, so I tied it down on the pillion seat. Bill Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > hi everyone > > i moseyed on down to barnes and noble last night. it was a beautiful night > for a ride! yet another dc-cycle guy can give validity to my girl status :) > > poor planning on my part brings me to a dilemma. somehow, i need to > transport my acoustic/electric guitar in a softcase on my m/c to church on > sunday morning. i considered wearing the case like a backpack but then the > neck of the guitar will stand up real high and im afraid the wind might be > too much for it. i also considered lying it flat across the backseat so that > it would be perpendicular to the bike. OR i could fasten the belly of the > guitar to the backseat and have the neck extend over the back. > > any suggestions? my other option is to just have someone else take his extra > guitar to church for me to use. its kinda like riding someone else's bike > tho -- doesn't feel quite right! > > also, im considering riding to western pa on saturday morning to hang out > with my stepdad who just had surgery and wont be able to ride for at least 2 > months! we'll be going to a poker run. im going to ride. he's just going > to sit around and eat. anyone else headed towards western pa on saturday > morning? > > despite an impromptu western pa trip and hauling my guitar to church, i still > plan on being at bike night on sunday. > > jenn :) > coke vs pepsi > coke wins unless pepsi is on sale! > 2002 purple monster. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 07:23:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86BNVSi012050; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:23:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86BNUXq012042; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:23:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 04:20:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: guitars and motorcycles.. etc. In-Reply-To: <196.cab2d36.2aa99e85@aol.com> Message-ID: <20020906041405.H44110-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > hi everyone > > i moseyed on down to barnes and noble last night. it was a beautiful night > for a ride! yet another dc-cycle guy can give validity to my girl status :) Jenn... how's the oil leak? Did you clean up the area around and behind the leak? Did it continue to leak? I don't know why they would have pulled that cover off, but it appears the leak is coming from that seal. > poor planning on my part brings me to a dilemma. somehow, i need to > transport my acoustic/electric guitar in a softcase on my m/c to church on > sunday morning. I don't have any suggestions, other than to be careful :-) > also, im considering riding to western pa on saturday morning to hang out > with my stepdad who just had surgery and wont be able to ride for at least 2 > months! we'll be going to a poker run. im going to ride. he's just going > to sit around and eat. anyone else headed towards western pa on saturday > morning? Let us know the route you take, Jenn. I cruise to Cranberry, PA pretty regularly (on car and bike) and wouldn't mind a route other than the turnpike. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 07:26:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86BQPSi012195; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:26:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86BQPcm012188; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:26:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D78922B.BA2FBE01@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 07:31:55 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Fairings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh well, my salvage/junkyard search for a Harley Road Glide fairing has turned up zip. A sweet southern gal who kept calling me "honey" did the computer thang, an online request, and came up with zero. Two options left: An aftermarket frame mount fairing, but I haven't found a manufacturor that makes one. Design and build one myself. Yes, I have the knowledge, equipment, and talent to do this, but geeze louise, it's a lotta work! Frame mount fairings rule. Screw clip-on windscreens and batwing wind-buffet your ass until your arms fall off, frame mounts are the only way to cruise the highways. The search goes on, the sketchs for a custom handbuilt accumulate. Maybe an old Windjammer conversion? Any thoughts on this? Oh, Harley purists, sorry about knotting your undies, but it's MY bike! Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 07:27:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86BROSi012333; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:27:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86BROga012326; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:27:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906112706.30646.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Gerald Hubbard" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 06:27:06 -0500 Subject: For Pork Lovers! X-Originating-Ip: 141.156.177.210 X-Originating-Server: ws3-4.us4.outblaze.com "White-collar biking has vroomed off in directions undreamt of by Malcolm Forbes." http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/0916/171.html -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 07:35:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86BZcSi012512; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:35:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86BZb5n012502; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:35:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906113530.94903.qmail@web40207.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 04:35:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: guitars and motorcycles.. etc. To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: <196.cab2d36.2aa99e85@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > poor planning on my part brings me to a dilemma. somehow, i need to > transport my acoustic/electric guitar in a softcase on my m/c to church on > sunday morning. Can you drop it off Saturday and leave it locked in someone's office until Sunday? Do you have any local friends who attend the same church who can drive by and pick up / drop off the guitar for you? > coke vs pepsi > coke wins unless pepsi is on sale! It'd have to be a pretty good sale to get me to switch. :-) Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 07:36:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Ba7Si012540; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:36:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Ba7Rp012536; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:36:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "William J. Huson" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: Fairings Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:33:55 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <3D78922B.BA2FBE01@patriot.net> In-Reply-To: <3D78922B.BA2FBE01@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090607335529.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 06 September 2002 07:31, William J. Huson wrote: > > Oh, Harley purists, sorry about knotting your undies, but it's MY bike! > Much as I love my hawg, I'm not a purist. I imagine the only "purist" would be someone who _doesn't_ mod their Harley and that would be counter to the Harley code. I've added Arlen Ness extenders and am waiting on a Corbin seat. A rack and windshield is next. Saddlebags probably coming up although so far I haven't needed them. The Oxford Sport Luggage seems to be holding everything I need so far. > Bill Good luck on the search. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 07:53:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86BrtSi012862; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:53:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Brsm9012852; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:53:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 04:53:51 -0700 From: " Michael Jordan" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: mjordan812@XXXXXX Subject: Re: guitars and motorcycles.. etc. Sender: mjordan812@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 199.174.233.138 >i considered wearing the case like a backpack Works like a champ - wear it diagonally across your back with the neck down. I've done many miles like this. Needless to say, resist impulses to race other bikes. But then, you aren't subject to testosterone poisoning... ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 08:01:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86C1TSi013041; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:01:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86C1Ta2013033; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:01:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <009501c2559c$fff216f0$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: References: <20020906041405.H44110-100000@magoo.noid.org> Subject: Track Day at Summit Point Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:00:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 In case you haven't heard, the LMS Track day for the 23rd of Sep. has been rescheduled until Monday, Oct. 14th. Mark your calendar! Gary Foreman TL Owners Club http://www.tl1000.com gary@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 08:06:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86C6oSi013297; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:06:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86C6nF7013289; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:06:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906120647.43195.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 05:06:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: For Pork Lovers! To: Gerald Hubbard , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020906112706.30646.qmail@email.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gerald, can you post the article here as it requires a password. thanks --- Gerald Hubbard wrote: > "White-collar biking has vroomed off in directions > undreamt of by Malcolm Forbes." > > http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/0916/171.html > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at > Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 08:07:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86C7GSi013329; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:07:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86C7Gaa013323; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:07:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D789BBE.90DA627D@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 08:12:46 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carl Schelin CC: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: Fairings References: <3D78922B.BA2FBE01@patriot.net> <02090607335529.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carl Schelin wrote: > Much as I love my hawg, I'm not a purist. I imagine the only "purist" would > be someone who _doesn't_ mod their Harley and that would be counter to the > Harley code. > > I've added Arlen Ness extenders and am waiting on a Corbin seat. A rack and > windshield is next. Saddlebags probably coming up although so far I haven't > needed them. The Oxford Sport Luggage seems to be holding everything I need > so far. Have Corbin seat, added after my first lass-burning long run to Baton Rouge LA and back. The soft, cushy Harley seat blows. I also have a Rack Factory tail trunk circa 1980s that I keep plopping on back and visualizing a mounting/modification system. The tailtrunk is kinda old and ugly, but it would be a welcome easy to use addition for those long hauls. Milady, the mistress of Harley decor, groans in disgust when she sees various crap bungeed and cargo netted to the bike. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 08:14:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86CECSi013600; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:14:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86CECNC013592; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:14:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906121356.2454.qmail@email.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) From: "Gerald Hubbard" To: "DC Cycles" Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 07:13:56 -0500 Subject: For Pork Lover's - Repost X-Originating-Ip: 141.156.177.210 X-Originating-Server: ws3-5.us4.outblaze.com The link required a password. The following is the article in the most recent issue of Forbes magazine. I did not read anything about knee dragging, so this might restart the asleep at the helm thread. Hogs, Executive Style Mary Crane, 09.16.02 White-collar biking has vroomed off in directions undreamt of by Malcolm Forbes. Hard to imagine, but 20 years ago a middle-aged executive tooling down the road on a Harley was considered peculiar. Maybe that's because few besides this magazine's late editor-in-chief dared to do so. Last month, in recognition of his contribution to the sport of motorcycling, Malcolm Forbes was inducted posthumously into the Sturgis Motorcycle Museum and Hall of Fame in Sturgis, S.D., thus joining such biker luminaries as Glenn Curtiss, the motorcycle builder and aviation pioneer, and hog-hugging film icon Steve McQueen. The single fastest-growing sector of two-wheeled tourists is RUBs--rich urban bikers--who use their bikes for respite from high-pressure jobs. After all, it's impossible to take a conference call while maneuvering an 800-pound bike around a hairpin curve. Though most white-collar riders prefer to create their own itineraries, a growing minority now hire companies to plan their routes and handle all logistics. Ride America, owned and operated by brothers Rick and Wyatt Perkins, targets corporate execs. "The average executive Harley enthusiast is between the ages of 45 and 65 and is a corporate professional or entrepreneur who rarely has the opportunity to ride," says Rick Perkins. "They need to be within four hours of their office or family." For such customers, the Perkinses have created itineraries through the canyon lands of the Southwest, the shaded Natchez Trace Trail, which dates to the antebellum South, and five others, all of which allow executives to focus on the riding experience itself. The Brenham, Tex.-based company takes care of airport transfers, motorcycle rentals, hotel accommodations and national park passes or other entrance fees. On some tours it provides a chase vehicle to transport riders' luggage and necessities between locations. My husband and I signed up with Ride America earlier this year for a group tour through Nevada, Arizona and Utah. While I toted a laptop and cell phone, somewhere between the stark vistas of Arizona's deserts and the majestic heights of Utah's Zion National Park I lost any interest in checking in with my office. And this from someone who considered herself a reluctant participant. My husband, the family's real gearhead, had eagerly anticipated this trip. I, on the other hand--a neophyte passenger--had felt only trepidation. I questioned whether I would enjoy following an itinerary that someone else had prepared, and I worried about spending the better part of a week with six strangers. (Most tours are limited to eight riders.) To my surprise, I quickly became enamored of touring--which is so much more raw and refreshing an experience than seeing the world from a car. I choked on desert dust, inhaled the rich scent of Arizona cedars and connected eye-to-eye with a small herd of antelope climbing a mountain. By the time our tour ended, I understood well why dogs ride with their heads hanging out the window. I especially appreciated the fact that at the end of each day we knew we'd be checking into prearranged lodgings, where we could shower and change clothes before dinner. Hardier road warriors who like to camp outdoors can ride with Chrome Caballeros. "I don't think you'll find another company that combines motorcycling with a camping experience like ours," boasts owner David Waddell. Chrome Caballeros' "luxury" accommodations include tents tall enough for riders to stand in--a nice touch for middle-aged bikers, who must pull jeans and other riding accessories on and off daily. Each tent contains a cot, sleeping bag, full-size pillow, clean towels, bedside table, lamp and rug. While riders ride, the Caballeros team is busy breaking camp at one location and pitching it at the next. They also rustle up each day's breakfast and dinner. This allows riders to stay on the road from 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., knowing that when they arrive at camp a hot dinner prepared over an open fire awaits them. The night's meal might be ribs, Cornish game hen, or chateaubriand, followed by Dutch-oven-baked apple pie and hand-churned ice cream. Ray Mathews, a retired life insurance brokerage owner from Henderson, Nev., joined Waddell on Chrome Caballeros' second tour in 2000 and has toured with him at least twice each year since. "They take care of everything," he says. "It gives me the freedom to ride and see the sights without having to worry about where I'll be sleeping." Mathews, who describes Waddell as "the master of the Dutch oven," adds, "I don't think there's anything neater than to have a cowboy cookout dinner. I'd rather end a day sitting around the campfire and talking motorcycles with friends than rush out to a restaurant or sit around a motel room." If you like roughing it even rougher, contact Mike Ferris of Thirroul (south of Sydney), Australia-based Ferris Wheels, which specializes in international motorcycle adventures. When we spoke with Ferris in late July, he was leading a tour through the Himalayas. Other "safaris," as he calls them, take riders on routes though India, Nepal, Turkey and the Andes. Ferris estimates that over half his riders are business owners, professionals, senior managers and corporate executives. His Himalayas trips (next one set for July 2003) let capitalists tool down the highest motorable road in the world, at an altitude of 18,380 feet. For contact information and rates, go to www.forbes.com/hogs. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 08:17:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86CH5Si013749; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:17:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86CH533013738; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:17:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: guitars and motorcycles.. etc. Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:14:54 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209060814542E.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 06 September 2002 07:53, you wrote: > >i considered wearing the case like a backpack > > Works like a champ - wear it diagonally across your back with the neck > down. I've done many miles like this. > > Needless to say, resist impulses to race other bikes. But then, you aren't > subject to testosterone poisoning... ;-) > Hey, women do have some testosterone. Maybe not enough to get poisoned but it's there. > Michael J. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 08:27:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86CR5Si014079; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:27:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86CR43X014071; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:27:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906122702.68890.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 05:27:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: For Pork Lover's - Repost To: Gerald Hubbard , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20020906121356.2454.qmail@email.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My first response is that people are such pussies! You need to pay someone to set up your tent and make your dinner. Real motorcycle camping means arriving at 10PM, in the rain, to try and eat some coldcuts and get some sleep before the 500 miles tomorrow! --- Gerald Hubbard wrote: > The link required a password. The following is the > article in the most recent issue of Forbes magazine. > > I did not read anything about knee dragging, so this > might restart the asleep at the helm thread. > > > Hogs, Executive Style > Mary Crane, 09.16.02 > > White-collar biking has vroomed off in directions > undreamt of by Malcolm Forbes. > Hard to imagine, but 20 years ago a middle-aged > executive tooling down the road on a Harley was > considered peculiar. Maybe that's because few > besides this magazine's late editor-in-chief dared > to do so. Last month, in recognition of his > contribution to the sport of motorcycling, Malcolm > Forbes was inducted posthumously into the Sturgis > Motorcycle Museum and Hall of Fame in Sturgis, S.D., > thus joining such biker luminaries as Glenn Curtiss, > the motorcycle builder and aviation pioneer, and > hog-hugging film icon Steve McQueen. > > The single fastest-growing sector of two-wheeled > tourists is RUBs--rich urban bikers--who use their > bikes for respite from high-pressure jobs. After > all, it's impossible to take a conference call while > maneuvering an 800-pound bike around a hairpin > curve. Though most white-collar riders prefer to > create their own itineraries, a growing minority now > hire companies to plan their routes and handle all > logistics. > > Ride America, owned and operated by brothers Rick > and Wyatt Perkins, targets corporate execs. "The > average executive Harley enthusiast is between the > ages of 45 and 65 and is a corporate professional or > entrepreneur who rarely has the opportunity to > ride," says Rick Perkins. "They need to be within > four hours of their office or family." > > For such customers, the Perkinses have created > itineraries through the canyon lands of the > Southwest, the shaded Natchez Trace Trail, which > dates to the antebellum South, and five others, all > of which allow executives to focus on the riding > experience itself. The Brenham, Tex.-based company > takes care of airport transfers, motorcycle rentals, > hotel accommodations and national park passes or > other entrance fees. On some tours it provides a > chase vehicle to transport riders' luggage and > necessities between locations. > > My husband and I signed up with Ride America earlier > this year for a group tour through Nevada, Arizona > and Utah. While I toted a laptop and cell phone, > somewhere between the stark vistas of Arizona's > deserts and the majestic heights of Utah's Zion > National Park I lost any interest in checking in > with my office. > > And this from someone who considered herself a > reluctant participant. My husband, the family's real > gearhead, had eagerly anticipated this trip. I, on > the other hand--a neophyte passenger--had felt only > trepidation. I questioned whether I would enjoy > following an itinerary that someone else had > prepared, and I worried about spending the better > part of a week with six strangers. (Most tours are > limited to eight riders.) > > To my surprise, I quickly became enamored of > touring--which is so much more raw and refreshing an > experience than seeing the world from a car. I > choked on desert dust, inhaled the rich scent of > Arizona cedars and connected eye-to-eye with a small > herd of antelope climbing a mountain. By the time > our tour ended, I understood well why dogs ride with > their heads hanging out the window. > > I especially appreciated the fact that at the end of > each day we knew we'd be checking into prearranged > lodgings, where we could shower and change clothes > before dinner. > > Hardier road warriors who like to camp outdoors can > ride with Chrome Caballeros. "I don't think you'll > find another company that combines motorcycling with > a camping experience like ours," boasts owner David > Waddell. Chrome Caballeros' "luxury" accommodations > include tents tall enough for riders to stand in--a > nice touch for middle-aged bikers, who must pull > jeans and other riding accessories on and off daily. > Each tent contains a cot, sleeping bag, full-size > pillow, clean towels, bedside table, lamp and rug. > > While riders ride, the Caballeros team is busy > breaking camp at one location and pitching it at the > next. They also rustle up each day's breakfast and > dinner. This allows riders to stay on the road from > 8:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., knowing that when they > arrive at camp a hot dinner prepared over an open > fire awaits them. The night's meal might be ribs, > Cornish game hen, or chateaubriand, followed by > Dutch-oven-baked apple pie and hand-churned ice > cream. > > Ray Mathews, a retired life insurance brokerage > owner from Henderson, Nev., joined Waddell on Chrome > Caballeros' second tour in 2000 and has toured with > him at least twice each year since. "They take care > of everything," he says. "It gives me the freedom to > ride and see the sights without having to worry > about where I'll be sleeping." Mathews, who > describes Waddell as "the master of the Dutch oven," > adds, "I don't think there's anything neater than to > have a cowboy cookout dinner. I'd rather end a day > sitting around the campfire and talking motorcycles > with friends than rush out to a restaurant or sit > around a motel room." > > If you like roughing it even rougher, contact Mike > Ferris of Thirroul (south of Sydney), > Australia-based Ferris Wheels, which specializes in > international motorcycle adventures. When we spoke > with Ferris in late July, he was leading a tour > through the Himalayas. Other "safaris," as he calls > them, take riders on routes though India, Nepal, > Turkey and the Andes. > > Ferris estimates that over half his riders are > business owners, professionals, senior managers and > corporate executives. His Himalayas trips (next one > set for July 2003) let capitalists tool down the > highest motorable road in the world, at an altitude > of 18,380 feet. > > For contact information and rates, go to > www.forbes.com/hogs. > > -- > __________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at > Mail.com > http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 08:39:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86CdmSi014304; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:39:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86CdmwU014294; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 08:39:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Fairings Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 08:39:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2002 12:39:40.0970 (UTC) FILETIME=[783690A0:01C255A2] Bill, You should be able to find Windjammers around. A little work to clean up, patch, etc. but shouldn't be a problem. I "adapted" an early Goldwing Windjammer mount to my old KZ1100 and mounted a V model (I think - it's been a while) with no problems. The fairing cost me $50, and he threw in the mount. Kind of ugly, but it worked well. Served as a good intro for the Concours. I eventually sold it to my buddy to install on a Moto Guzzi. I charged him $50 and threw in the mount... Perry p.s. A Windjammer on a Harley?!?!? What's the world coming to? ;^) >From: "William J. Huson" >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" >Subject: Fairings >Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 07:31:55 -0400 > >Oh well, my salvage/junkyard search for a Harley Road Glide fairing has >turned up zip. A sweet southern gal who kept calling me "honey" did the >computer thang, an online request, and came up with zero. > >Two options left: An aftermarket frame mount fairing, but I haven't >found a manufacturor that makes one. Design and build one myself. Yes, >I have the knowledge, equipment, and talent to do this, but geeze >louise, it's a lotta work! > >Frame mount fairings rule. Screw clip-on windscreens and batwing >wind-buffet your ass until your arms fall off, frame mounts are the only >way to cruise the highways. The search goes on, the sketchs for a >custom handbuilt accumulate. Maybe an old Windjammer conversion? Any >thoughts on this? > >Oh, Harley purists, sorry about knotting your undies, but it's MY bike! > >Bill _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 09:06:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86D6YSi014601; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:06:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86D6WBU014586; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:06:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C318@wash58.acs.org> From: Jason Picton To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:04:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" and you thought cell phones while driving was bad - check this out.. http://www.egadgets.com/cgi-bin/sgin0101.exe?T1=TO+203 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 09:07:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86D7GSi014625; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:07:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86D7GfG014620; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:07:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 6 Sep 2002 13:07:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20020906130714.2927.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) ...How about the BDDTD (brain dead -- asleep) dump truck driver) >who caused two deaths after rearending a cage at a Fair Oaks >intersection in midafternoon? [Dave] AND - only charged with reckless driving, carrying a maximum 1 year in prison... >Sweating more at stops than at speed now. Rearviews are cratering from >burning looks of mine. >Bill S. / DC [Dave] And the thing with the barrelling big trucks is that they could strike a cage several cages behind you & still cause you trouble. The latest AAA hack job said that most truck accidents are caused by cagers. Horseshit. ALL tractor trailers, dumps, and similar large vehicles follow too close for conditions. 2 cage lengths won't do it. The cops need to start enforcing something ridiculous like a 10 cage lenth minimum interval between any large truck and any OTHER type of vehicle. Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 09:17:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86DHASi014948; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:17:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86DHAU2014940; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:17:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 6 Sep 2002 13:17:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20020906131708.9517.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) JP added - >and you thought cell phones while driving was bad - check this out.. > http://www.egadgets.com/cgi-bin/sgin0101.exe?T1=TO+203 [Dave] Weren't we just lamenting this yesterday under a different header? On a related note, it is most unfortunate to note that I got a series of 'weird looks' when in a staff meeting I reiterated that under no circumstances would I answer a cell while driving a vehicle... People looked at me like I had 2 heads. "But if you're on call" - I didn't even let them finish that sentence, interrupting with something like ...'nobody's ever called us with a life threatening software problem, so it isn't worth risking a fatal accident over'... Pagers, cells, PDAs, laptops - all are wonderful inventions properly used, but JFC, when I'm driving, or riding, I want nothing to do with any of them. There's a setting on my (~!@#$%^&*) company issued pager called 'Quiet Time'. Work intrudes on too many facets of my life now, absolutely no freakin'way I'm totin' around one of those silly trays ... Besides, it won't fit my clip ons... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 09:25:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86DPGSi015232; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:25:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86DPGI5015224; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:25:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C319@wash58.acs.org> From: Jason Picton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Rearviews again to the fore Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:22:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I agree.... I am all for what I saw in Ohio Last Month - 2 different speed limits... 55 for trucks and 65+ MPH for Cars... It really seemed to keep alot truckers from going too fast on the highway and breathing down you neck.... Now if only they would do it on I-81 S Jason Horseshit. ALL tractor trailers, dumps, and similar large vehicles follow too close for conditions. 2 cage lengths won't do it. The cops need to start enforcing something ridiculous like a 10 cage lenth minimum interval between any large truck and any OTHER type of vehicle. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 09:36:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86DajSi015452; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:36:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86DajTP015444; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:36:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:36:30 EDT Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 12:16:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mobacc@XXXXXX writes: > Sweating more at stops than at speed now. Rearviews are cratering from > burning looks of mine. I know what you mean, my mirrors only last about a year before they wear out #:-) > Nothing scares the crap out of me worse then being the only one at a stop light that is about to turn green late at night with a car coming up on me. I know the driver is not looking at me but at that damn light. Gives me the creeps just thinking about it. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 09:45:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86DjNSi015544; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:45:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86DjNnV015534; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:45:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <57.111decab.2aaa0b6a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:45:14 EDT Subject: Re: Fairings To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 7:26:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > Design and build one myself. Yes, > I have the knowledge, equipment, and talent to do this, Cool! There are a lot of people out there who would like to have one. Set it up like the old Windjammer where the main part was standard and the only change was the mounting hardware and you should be able to sell em as fast as you make em. May or may not be worthwhile, but the idea is free and worth every penny. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 09:58:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Dw3Si015945; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:58:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Dw2Nu015935; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:58:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <103.1afacc47.2aaa0e59@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:57:45 EDT Subject: Re: For Pork Lover's - Repost To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 8:27:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, markkitchell@XXXXXX writes: > Real motorcycle camping means arriving at 10PM, in the > rain, to try and eat some coldcuts and get some sleep > before the 500 miles tomorrow! Do not forget how cold it is and that you set your tent over a depression that looks flat in the dark but is full of water that leaks up through the seam in your tent and wets your sleeping bag so you can only lay in one position all night without getting wet and.... You just cannot beat experience, or is that nothing beats you like experience? Damn that was a cold night. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:03:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86E3RSi016130; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:03:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86E3Rch016120; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:03:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <16.24e519be.2aaa0fa1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:03:13 EDT Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 9:07:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sdave@XXXXXX writes: > The cops need to start enforcing something ridiculous like a 10 cage lenth > minimum interval between any large truck and any OTHER type of vehicle. So what is ridiculous about that? I used to trust truckers, they were the salt of the earth and knew how to drive those things. But that was a long time ago. Damn CDL. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:06:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86E6eSi016289; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:06:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86E6eDc016277; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:06:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <120.15a4f244.2aaa1064@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:06:28 EDT Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 9:17:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sdave@XXXXXX writes: > Pagers, cells, PDAs, laptops - all are wonderful inventions properly used, > but JFC, when I'm driving, or riding, I want nothing to do with any of them. Good for you! My BMW had an aftermarket radio/cassette stereo installed on it when it was sitting on the showroom floor. I had them take if off before delivery. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:08:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86E8SSi016443; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:08:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86E8RkU016435; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:08:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:08:40 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Erick Singley Subject: Re: guitars and motorcycles.. etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hmmm, let's try this again, but to the whole list instead (sorry William) >Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > > hi everyone > > > poor planning on my part brings me to a dilemma. somehow, i need to >> transport my acoustic/electric guitar in a softcase on my m/c to church on >> sunday morning. i considered wearing the case like a backpack but then the >> neck of the guitar will stand up real high and im afraid the wind might be >> too much for it. i also considered lying it flat across the >>backseat so that >> it would be perpendicular to the bike. OR i could fasten the belly of the >> guitar to the backseat and have the neck extend over the back. >> >> any suggestions? my other option is to just have someone else >>take his extra >> guitar to church for me to use. its kinda like riding someone else's bike > > tho -- doesn't feel quite right! > > > > > jenn :) > > coke vs pepsi > > coke wins unless pepsi is on sale! > > 2002 purple monster. I had bookmarked this link some time ago from this list I think. Although it shows hauling a bicycle, primarily, scroll further down and you can see him hauling a golf-club bag on a 'side trac' mount. That side stage looks wide enough to take a guitar case as well? http://hometown.aol.com/mschue5938/mschuette.html Best of luck, Erick (hoping to finally ride soon after drilling out old, rusting, frozen brake bleed valve from 74' CB750. Being able to stop seems like a good thing...) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:17:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86EH4Si016652; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:17:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86EH37R016644; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:17:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <198.c9ee992.2aaa12d7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:16:55 EDT Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 9:25:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, j_picton@XXXXXX writes: > I agree.... I am all for what I saw in Ohio Last Month - 2 different speed > limits... 55 for trucks and 65+ MPH for Cars... It really seemed to keep > alot truckers from going too fast on the highway and breathing down you > neck.... Now if only they would do it on I-81 S > That reminds me. Back when the speed limit was 70 most places It was NOT 70 for trucks _it never was_. Signs were: 70 cars 65 trucks 55 _trucks with trailers_ That was the way it was. When the 55mph. speed limit was imposed on the states they "compensated" truckers by increasing the load limits and allowing double bottoms (two trailers) in all 50 states. The trucks never followed the 55 limit. When the federal 55 limit was removed they did not remove the load limits or double bottoms. Turned out to be nothing more then a hell of a windfall for the trucking companies. I am old, I was there, I remember. P.S. The signs had some neat reflective paint, when the light came from above (the sun) they read 70, when it came from below (headlights) it read 65. Not important, just interesting. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:28:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86ESWSi016860; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:28:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86ESVU3016850; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:28:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 6 Sep 2002 14:28:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20020906142829.24088.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: Rearviews again to the fore X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Nick replied off list - >Dave, I could agree with you on the half of this >statement. I have a close family member (Mom) that is >a Tractor/Trailer driver. [Dave] I found Nick's comments topical & insightful... So I replied to DCC ... Nick - hope you don't mind, no argument, disrespect intended... > She's the type that gets >pissed off when other TT drivers tailgate. According >to the CDL class that she took, you had to maintain >far more than 2 carlenghts behind a cage(not certain >the exact nuber). [Dave] Whatever it is, rest assured it's vastly inadequate. And in practice, the vast majority of TT drivers are just plain ignorant of physics. I hope VA throws the book at that dump driver with at least manslaughter charges... The dumps carry 20 tons & up, I haven't a clue how much a fully loaded TT can / does carry... Regardless, it's a lot of weight, and they don't stop on a dime. One major difference between piloting a car & a tractor trailer is that in a tractor trailer accident with anything else, a fatality is LIKELY to occur... > I think that study that AAA >released is referring to accidents where cagers cut >off tractor trailer (I've seen it a few times). [Dave] Yup, that does happen, but, if the TT driver maintains sufficient following distance, then cutting off becomes a non issue... >Anyway, my mom was involved in an accident in Texas >where there were 2 left turn lanes(she was in the >right lane) and this kid in a cage ran up under her >trailer b/c he was talking on his cellphone, yet she >was given the fine b/c the police said she should have >seen him. [Dave] That's ridiculous ! Whatever, I'm just trying to give a little >bit of both stories. I've been taligated in my car by >TT's and have dialed that "How's my driving number" on >the back of their trailer and reported their asses!! [Dave] FTS, a tailgating tractor trailer is a 9 1 1 event. call the cops & let them deal with these nutjobs. >It's kind of like saying that "all" sportbike riders >split lanes?ride wheelies at 100mph, just b/c you see >a few people do it on 495. Just my .02. [Dave] True, there *ARE* decent truck drivers out there that are good drivers, but it seems we don't get many of those around here... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:30:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86EUfSi017023; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:30:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86EUfvQ017010; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:30:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D78BD5B.38280B1E@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:36:11 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore References: <198.c9ee992.2aaa12d7@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > When the 55mph. speed limit was imposed on the states they "compensated" > truckers by increasing the load limits and allowing double bottoms (two > trailers) in all 50 states. > The trucks never followed the 55 limit. > When the federal 55 limit was removed they did not remove the load limits or > double bottoms. > Turned out to be nothing more then a hell of a windfall for the trucking > companies. > I am old, I was there, I remember. Double bottoms? You think they're freaky? Try triple bottoms, seen by my frightened eyes on midwest interstates. Tis like a fucking frieght train blasting down the slab at 70+, light breeze enough to set the whole rig into the wigglys. Jesus aitch, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING! Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:32:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86EWuSi017164; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:32:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86EWt2I017157; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:32:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 6 Sep 2002 14:32:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20020906143254.27340.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: Rearviews again to the fore X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) LongJohn asks - >In a message dated 9/6/2002 9:07:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sdave@XXXXXX >writes: >> The cops need to start enforcing something ridiculous like a 10 cage lenth >> minimum interval between any large truck and any OTHER type of vehicle. >So what is ridiculous about that? [Dave] Absolutely nothing. I meant ridiculous as a reference or comaparison to the bike / cage intervals. In retrospect, the phrase 'Much greater' would have served better.... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:40:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86EeZSi017370; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:40:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86EeYtk017363; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:40:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906103806.022bfd48@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 10:40:20 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time In-Reply-To: <120.15a4f244.2aaa1064@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I would love to have music when I ride. I ran with helmet speakers for a while. Finally found a CD player that wouldn't skip (can you believe they sell them for $20 in bubble plastic now?!?!) but the cords would always whip around and get in the way. Some outdoor speakers and a head unit would be sweet. For commuting anyway. My D220 rear tire showed up yesterday. Still waiting on the front. Sigh. At 10:06 AM 9/6/2002, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >My BMW had an aftermarket radio/cassette stereo installed on it when it was >sitting on the showroom floor. >I had them take if off before delivery. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:46:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86EklSi017798; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:46:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Eklpd017790; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:46:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:46:45 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061046.AA92078674@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX >Nothing scares the crap out of me worse then being the only one at a stop >light that is about to turn green late at night with a car coming up on me. I >know the driver is not looking at me but at that damn light. >Gives me the creeps just thinking about it. Agreed. It makes my right fingers keep squeezing and releasing the brake lever - FLASH those lights. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 10:50:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Eo2Si017969; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:50:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Eo1Go017960; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:50:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906144958.13286.qmail@web12305.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 07:49:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore To: "William J. Huson" , PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3D78BD5B.38280B1E@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Alot of truckers refer to the Double Trailers as "wiggle wagons." A suitable name if you ask me. I worked for UPS a while back and they always use those things. All the drivers I ever talked to hated pulling those things. Nick --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > > When the 55mph. speed limit was imposed on the > states they "compensated" > > truckers by increasing the load limits and > allowing double bottoms (two > > trailers) in all 50 states. > > The trucks never followed the 55 limit. > > When the federal 55 limit was removed they did not > remove the load limits or > > double bottoms. > > Turned out to be nothing more then a hell of a > windfall for the trucking > > companies. > > I am old, I was there, I remember. > > Double bottoms? You think they're freaky? Try > triple bottoms, seen by my > frightened eyes on midwest interstates. Tis like a > fucking frieght train > blasting down the slab at 70+, light breeze enough > to set the whole rig into the > wigglys. Jesus aitch, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING! > > Bill > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 12:10:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86GADSi018842; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:10:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86GAB6V018827; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:10:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906160959.19238.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:09:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906103806.022bfd48@mail.troutman.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii shit, dude.... join the 21st century and get an mp3 player (route the damn cord correctly too!) i have a 128meg sanyo yepp player. it's tiny; it NEVER skips (it can't); and it holds a little over 3 hours of my favorite satanic music. gooooooo satan! they also make jukeboxes of ~20gigs or so. these have more of a potential to skip (hard drive based), but i've still heard good things about 'em for m/c use. --- Troutman wrote: > I would love to have music when I ride. I ran with > helmet speakers for a > while. Finally found a CD player that wouldn't skip (can > you believe they > sell them for $20 in bubble plastic now?!?!) but the > cords would always > whip around and get in the way. Some outdoor speakers > and a head unit > would be sweet. For commuting anyway. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 12:17:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86GHLSi019003; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:17:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86GHLqw018993; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:17:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:21:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: onboard music In-Reply-To: <20020906160959.19238.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:09:59 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tom Gimer > To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time > > shit, dude.... join the 21st century and get an mp3 player > (route the damn cord correctly too!) ... > they also make jukeboxes of ~20gigs or so. these have more > of a potential to skip (hard drive based), but i've still > heard good things about 'em for m/c use. I have a 6g Archos -- been debating replacing it with an iPod. Haven't used it on the bike yet, something about putting it into a magnetic tank bag doesn't seem like a good idea. Has anyone tried this? -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 12:18:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86GIeSi019036; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:18:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86GIeZW019027; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:18:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Tom Gimer , Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:16:20 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20020906160959.19238.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020906160959.19238.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209061216202P.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm waiting on the Ogg Vobis hardware before I invest in an "mp3" player. But an FM radio works well with the Aircom stuff. And on a side note, the new rider in my family (my wife, for those not following along at home), is spouting VA laws at me. "You must have a passenger seat in VA so you can't have the Corbin solo seat.". "Dear, read it again, _to carry passengers_ you must have a seat." Carl On Friday 06 September 2002 12:09, Tom Gimer wrote: > shit, dude.... join the 21st century and get an mp3 player > (route the damn cord correctly too!) > > i have a 128meg sanyo yepp player. it's tiny; it NEVER > skips (it can't); and it holds a little over 3 hours of my > favorite satanic music. gooooooo satan! > > they also make jukeboxes of ~20gigs or so. these have more > of a potential to skip (hard drive based), but i've still > heard good things about 'em for m/c use. > > --- Troutman wrote: > > I would love to have music when I ride. I ran with > > helmet speakers for a > > while. Finally found a CD player that wouldn't skip (can > > you believe they > > sell them for $20 in bubble plastic now?!?!) but the > > cords would always > > whip around and get in the way. Some outdoor speakers > > and a head unit > > would be sweet. For commuting anyway. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 12:20:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86GK4Si019100; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:20:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86GK3rc019089; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:20:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "Daniel H. Brown" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: onboard music Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:17:48 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209061217482Q.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 06 September 2002 12:21, Daniel H. Brown wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:09:59 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Tom Gimer > > To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time > > > > shit, dude.... join the 21st century and get an mp3 player > > (route the damn cord correctly too!) > > .... > > > they also make jukeboxes of ~20gigs or so. these have more > > of a potential to skip (hard drive based), but i've still > > heard good things about 'em for m/c use. > > I have a 6g Archos -- been debating replacing it with an iPod. > Haven't used it on the bike yet, something about putting it into > a magnetic tank bag doesn't seem like a good idea. Has anyone tried > this? > I don't like the idea of magnetic tank bags anyway. I run my single cable from the front of my tail bag under my left armpit and plugged into the helmet. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 12:41:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86GfTSi019592; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:41:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86GfSV4019582; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:41:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <008b01c255c4$3a5dc510$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: References: Subject: About last night Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:41:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Well, I finally was able to get my butt outside and went to meet all that travel to Thursday B&N. Too bad the only one I found was Jenn the biker. Went to Hooters, heard that everyone was there, 100 bikes, mostly sport, 2 cruisers and my training wheels. It was fun but sorry I missed everyone that showed. Would have liked to meet the faces. Will plan to be out next week, hope that I may hook up with some, if not after work I will head to Bike night from Annapolis. Scott From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 12:47:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86GltSi019762; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:47:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86GltO9019755; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:47:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:51:41 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: "Daniel H. Brown" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: onboard music In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I have a 6g Archos -- been debating replacing it with an iPod. > Haven't used it on the bike yet, something about putting it into > a magnetic tank bag doesn't seem like a good idea. Has anyone tried > this? > I had the Archos, it crapped out on me, swapped for an Ipod. Do it, you won't look back. The sound quality is MUCH better, but the best part is you can operate the ipod without having to look at the display. I can change tracks, pause and adjust volume without unzipping my pocket. Only problem is battery life, after 9-10 hours you are screwed, you have to plug it in, can't swap packs. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 12:51:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Gp1Si019824; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:51:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Gp0DP019817; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:51:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906164358.85734.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:43:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: onboard music To: "Daniel H. Brown" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <0209061217482Q.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Carl Schelin wrote: > On Friday 06 September 2002 12:21, Daniel H. Brown wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:09:59 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: Tom Gimer > > > To: Troutman , > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > > Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at > the same time > > > > > > shit, dude.... join the 21st century and get an mp3 > player > > > (route the damn cord correctly too!) > > > > .... > > > > > they also make jukeboxes of ~20gigs or so. these > have more > > > of a potential to skip (hard drive based), but i've > still > > > heard good things about 'em for m/c use. > > > > I have a 6g Archos -- been debating replacing it with > an iPod. > > Haven't used it on the bike yet, something about > putting it into > > a magnetic tank bag doesn't seem like a good idea. Has > anyone tried > > this? because my player is all RAM, i don't know how magnetics could potentially affect it. regardless, it sits directly on the magnets in my tankbag.... with no ill effects to date. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 12:57:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86GvgSi019897; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:57:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86GvgF3019887; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:57:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:55:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Music In-Reply-To: <20020906160959.19238.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020906095418.C47314-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > shit, dude.... join the 21st century and get an mp3 player > (route the damn cord correctly too!) Yep, MP3 player here and it works great. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:10:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HA3Si020253; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:10:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86HA2JA020243; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:10:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906171000.896.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK PEOPLE I just got confirmation that parking is a GO. So get your asses to Bike Night this Sunday, 6PM, CarPool. The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. Mark ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:13:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HDkSi020406; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:13:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86HDjTD020396; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:13:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:13:44 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061313.AA108855682@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: onboard music X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Daniel H. Brown" >I have a 6g Archos -- been debating replacing it with an iPod. >Haven't used it on the bike yet, something about putting it into >a magnetic tank bag doesn't seem like a good idea. Has anyone tried >this? Magnetic tank bag - no. Tank bag - yes. Worked great! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:18:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HIWSi020774; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:18:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86HIWbP020763; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:18:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:22:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT In-Reply-To: <20020906171000.896.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Mark Kitchell wrote: > OK PEOPLE > > I just got confirmation that parking is a GO. So get > your asses to Bike Night this Sunday, 6PM, CarPool. > > The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. > Not to start an AOL style cascade of "me 2's" but I'm planning on riding there. Black VFR, "DEV VFR" plates. Anyone else? -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:21:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HLvSi020832; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:21:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86HLudh020822; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:21:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906172149.83541.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 10:21:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT To: "Daniel H. Brown" , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll be there!! I have a purple 93 Gixxer 750. I'd be surprised to see anyone else there with a similar bike. You'll notice me b/c I'll be wearing a red/black/white Teknic jacket that doesn't remotely match my bike ;) See you there!!! Nick --- "Daniel H. Brown" wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Mark Kitchell wrote: > > OK PEOPLE > > > > I just got confirmation that parking is a GO. So > get > > your asses to Bike Night this Sunday, 6PM, > CarPool. > > > > The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. > > > > Not to start an AOL style cascade of "me 2's" but > I'm planning on riding > there. Black VFR, "DEV VFR" plates. Anyone else? > > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:24:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HOSSi021102; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:24:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86HOSmP021092; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:24:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C31E@wash58.acs.org> From: Jason Picton To: "'Nicholas Thompson'" , "Daniel H. Brown" , DC Cycles Subject: RE: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:21:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I am going to show.... Red Hawk GT... Jason I Picton jip98@XXXXXX 1998 Honda VTR1000 Superhawk 1991 Suzuki GSF400 Bandit 1989 Honda NT650 Hawk GT 1988 Honda NX650 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:31:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HVbSi021322; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:31:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86HVbEa021311; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:31:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906132938.0227c1c0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 13:31:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time In-Reply-To: <20020906160959.19238.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906103806.022bfd48@mail.troutman.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:09 PM 9/6/2002, Tom Gimer wrote: >shit, dude.... join the 21st century and get an mp3 player >(route the damn cord correctly too!) Another problem was volume. I took my Johnny Cash collection on a long Skyline/BRP solo trip last year and could barely hear the man in black at speed. Think I need an amp or something. Not looking for suggestions - I'd only use the headphones while touring, and I won't be doing any of that for a while. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:43:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HhPSi021525; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:43:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86HhOwS021515; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:43:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <16e.134f969a.2aaa4335@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:43:17 EDT Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 10:30:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > You think they're freaky? Try triple bottoms, seen by my > frightened eyes on midwest interstates Been There Done That, Lived in Nevada for 3 years it is legal there, just did not want to muddy the waters. In the outback of Australia I understand they run 5 or 6 or whatever number their engines can handle, _That_ would be scary. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:46:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HkYSi021576; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:46:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86HkYXe021568; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:46:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <11f.161582de.2aaa43ec@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:46:20 EDT Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 10:46:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: > keep squeezing and releasing the brake lever - FLASH those lights. Damn straight! And remember you have two brake light switches, if you hold one you cannot flash with the other. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:50:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HoqSi021846; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:50:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Hopwd021835; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:50:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:50:54 -0400 Subject: Re: onboard music Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX To: "Daniel H. Brown" From: John West In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <30FB3071-C1C1-11D6-ABE0-00039355E006@macconnect.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) I have a 5GB iPod and a magnetic tank bag. Haven't had any problems yet. -john On Friday, September 6, 2002, at 12:21 PM, Daniel H. Brown wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: >> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:09:59 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Tom Gimer >> To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time >> >> shit, dude.... join the 21st century and get an mp3 player >> (route the damn cord correctly too!) > ... >> they also make jukeboxes of ~20gigs or so. these have more >> of a potential to skip (hard drive based), but i've still >> heard good things about 'em for m/c use. > > I have a 6g Archos -- been debating replacing it with an iPod. > Haven't used it on the bike yet, something about putting it into > a magnetic tank bag doesn't seem like a good idea. Has anyone tried > this? > > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 13:56:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86HucSi022003; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:56:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Hubnr021993; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:56:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:54:26 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209061354262R.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 06 September 2002 13:22, Daniel H. Brown wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Mark Kitchell wrote: > > OK PEOPLE > > > > I just got confirmation that parking is a GO. So get > > your asses to Bike Night this Sunday, 6PM, CarPool. > > > > The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. > > Not to start an AOL style cascade of "me 2's" but I'm planning on riding > there. Black VFR, "DEV VFR" plates. Anyone else? I've told myself that I'm going. Assuming I don't forget, I'll be there. "cranberry" FXSTI, "FOAD" plates. Evil Overlord Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 14:12:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86ICkSi022233; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:12:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86ICkAq022223; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:12:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.228.142.5] From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: onboard music Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 14:12:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2002 18:12:38.0995 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC0B4230:01C255D0] Hmmm... How about something like a Fujitsu Pen Tablet (like the Stylistic 2300, or newer 3x00 series?) Mount it on your tank (some closed cell foam, Cordura and Velcro) and you can hookup your GPS and have the moving map while listening to the MP3's you've stored on the hard drive, and you could even add a wireless NIC and do a little wardriving (or would that be warsquidding?) while you're at it... Get the model with the outdoor-viewable screen, use the stylus while you're on the go. You can hookup the keyboard, floppy, cd, etc. at home as needed. One power hookup, one headphone connection and the serial or USB for the GPS, should make for a pretty neat package. Actually, you could probably just use a GPS PCMCIA card and avoid the extra connection. Perry _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 14:20:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86IKUSi022542; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:20:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86IKSjd022532; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:20:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: Proper lock placement Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:20:19 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640913A@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: onboard music Thread-Index: AcJVzgvdjVzzDK6fS3mkbY6nVptJ7AAAGSZQ From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g86IKRSi022515 Hi guys, I have been riding my R6 for a little while, and I even ran some errands on real streets... with car traffic and everything! hehehe... I'm mostly practicing on parking lots, however. Right now, my strategy is to be as smooth as possible in 1st gear, which I have to admit is pretty hard for me to do. I am definately shaky/not confident when it comes to making 90 degree turns from a stop. Slow turns are much easier in second, but it seems logical to think that the twitchy first gear only magnifies my shortcomings whereas second gear covers them up. That's my reasoning for sticking to first gear: I know immediately if I'm messing up. That said, I have a lock question. Right now, I don't have anything to lock the bike to and I'm exploring different options to solve that. After hearing all the stories of bike thefts, I have to admit, my heart beats a little faster every time I look out the window to check if the bike is still there. Comprehensive insurance just isn't making me feel much better. But so far, the bike has stayed put :) I do have a cover for the bike, and today I recieved my 5 foot long "Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit" lock. I wanted to know what the best way of using this chain is, aside from chaining it to something unmovable. I know that with bicycles, you should always chain the frame, not the wheels, since wheels are easy to take off. Does the same hold true for motorcycles? How do you guys chain your bike? Witold www.witold.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 14:38:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Ic9Si022788; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:38:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Ic8t6022778; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:38:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:42:06 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Troutman cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906132938.0227c1c0@mail.troutman.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Another problem was volume. I took my Johnny Cash collection on a long > Skyline/BRP solo trip last year and could barely hear the man in black at > speed. Think I need an amp or something. AMP??? You wanna go deaf? If not get some of the in-ear style headphones. They cut out the wind/road noise so you can enjoy your music at a reasonable volume. IMO, cant beat these for the price: http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/02ProductDetailCall?ReadForm&Portable+Stereophones^THEPLUG Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 14:41:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86IfISi022852; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:41:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86IfIKZ022845; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:41:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906143933.0244e418@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 14:41:15 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906132938.0227c1c0@mail.troutman.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:42 PM 9/6/2002, dan wrote: >AMP??? You wanna go deaf? If not get some of the in-ear style headphones. >They cut out the wind/road noise so you can enjoy your music at a >reasonable volume. IMO, cant beat these for the price: I wasn't looking for suggestions. I have tried in the ear - they don't stay very well. I carved out styro from the helmet and placed high end compact speakers in the shell. Worked very well around town - just not at speed. An in-line amp probably would have cured it. Music has to make it through my earplugs as well (old Shoei 800 had a lot of wind noise - probably due to my cutting job with the styro!) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 14:45:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86IjFSi022911; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:45:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86IjE3b022901; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:45:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D78F900.728CF4C5@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 14:50:40 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Perry Coleman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: onboard music References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Screw all those ee-lek-tron-ick dee-vices! I sing to meself, vintage rock & rock. Get some cool reverbs inside a full face! Not to mention me singing definately keeps me awake... Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 14:47:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86IlXSi023164; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:47:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86IlWFB023152; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:47:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D78F98E.2460208C@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 14:53:02 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Proper lock placement References: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640913A@rnc1.rnchq.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: > Hi guys, I have been riding my R6 for a little while, and I even ran some errands on real streets... with car traffic and everything! hehehe... I'm mostly practicing on parking lots, however. > > Right now, my strategy is to be as smooth as possible in 1st gear, which I have to admit is pretty hard for me to do. I am definately shaky/not confident when it comes to making 90 degree turns from a stop. Slow turns are much easier in second, but it seems logical to think that the twitchy first gear only magnifies my shortcomings whereas second gear covers them up. That's my reasoning for sticking to first gear: I know immediately if I'm messing up. > > That said, I have a lock question. Right now, I don't have anything to lock the bike to and I'm exploring different options to solve that. After hearing all the stories of bike thefts, I have to admit, my heart beats a little faster every time I look out the window to check if the bike is still there. Comprehensive insurance just isn't making me feel much better. But so far, the bike has stayed put :) > > I do have a cover for the bike, and today I recieved my 5 foot long "Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit" lock. I wanted to know what the best way of using this chain is, aside from chaining it to something unmovable. I know that with bicycles, you should always chain the frame, not the wheels, since wheels are easy to take off. Does the same hold true for motorcycles? > > How do you guys chain your bike? How about chaining it to the trip wire of a Claymore mine! hardy har har, just kidding, I think... Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 14:47:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86IlZSi023188; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:47:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86IlZfo023184; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:47:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192922@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Koss the Plug earphones Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:48:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I can second Dan on this one. I commute daily on 66 and have no problem hearing w/ these. These aren't just ear buds they are ear buds w/ ear plugs attached. They combine your ear plugs, cutting the wind noise and put the music in your ears at a "reasonable" level. I'd assume an amp is going to make the music louder, you don't have to w/ these. -----Original Message----- From: Troutman [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:41 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time At 02:42 PM 9/6/2002, dan wrote: >AMP??? You wanna go deaf? If not get some of the in-ear style headphones. >They cut out the wind/road noise so you can enjoy your music at a >reasonable volume. IMO, cant beat these for the price: I wasn't looking for suggestions. I have tried in the ear - they don't stay very well. I carved out styro from the helmet and placed high end compact speakers in the shell. Worked very well around town - just not at speed. An in-line amp probably would have cured it. Music has to make it through my earplugs as well (old Shoei 800 had a lot of wind noise - probably due to my cutting job with the styro!) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 14:50:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86IobSi023460; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:50:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86IobWS023450; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:50:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906185034.60506.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:50:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Proper lock placement To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640913A@rnc1.rnchq.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii First things first - --- Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services > I am definately shaky/not > confident when it comes to making 90 degree turns > from a stop. There are a few tips and tricks that might make slow-speed maneouvering easier for you. 1) LOOK where you want to go. Very important. While turning, consciously STARE around the corner at the place you want to end up. Don't look right in front of you. 2) U-Turns and other slow-speed stuff: Lean to the outside of the turn while you lean the bike to the inside of the turn. This keeps your center of gravity more toward the vertical making it seem easier and more comfortable to turn at slow speed. 3) When you need to move slowly, hold a steady throttle and adjust your speed by feathering the clutch in and out. I find that it's much easier to adjust speed in tiny increments this way than by using the throttle alone. 4) Have confidence. This is the most important factor. Practice and it will come to you. > How do you guys chain your bike? Whatever you do, make sure you will remember the chain is there before you start to ride off. There are aftermarket things you can buy like ignition plugs that say "lock attached!" that will help you remember. This is very important with disc locks but probably useful with the bulkier chains too. Locking to a solid immovable object is the only real defense. It's very easy for two or three guys to lift a bike into a van and deal with your chain at their own convenience. I see a lot of folks chaining their front wheel to things, and while it's harder to remove a front wheel from a motorcycle than a bicycle, it's still too easy IMO. Run the chain through the frame of your bike (or some other highly integral part of the bike) if you can. Chris Weaver __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:08:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86J88Si023938; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:08:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86J87QM023928; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:08:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906190802.56671.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:08:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time To: dan , Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- dan wrote: > > Another problem was volume. I took my Johnny Cash > collection on a long > > Skyline/BRP solo trip last year and could barely hear > the man in black at > > speed. > Think I need an amp or something. > > AMP??? You wanna go deaf? If not get some of the in-ear > style headphones. > They cut out the wind/road noise so you can enjoy your > music at a > reasonable volume. IMO, cant beat these for the price: > > http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/02ProductDetailCall?ReadForm&Portable+Stereophones^THEPLUG koss' the PLUG would be better used as a BUTT PLUG. obviously, we're talking about a young or seldom-abused balloon knot here. (thanks, glenn!!) can you guess whether koss' products have worked well for me? -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:11:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JBDSi024102; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:11:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JBCv8024090; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:11:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906191110.10824.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:11:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Proper lock placement To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020906185034.60506.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii supplement to mr. weaver's helpful advice: learn to use the rear brake proficiently for slow speed maneuvers (sp). --- Chris Weaver wrote: > First things first - > > --- Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services > > I am definately shaky/not > > confident when it comes to making 90 degree turns > > from a stop. > > There are a few tips and tricks that might make > slow-speed maneouvering easier for you. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:11:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JBFSi024127; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:11:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JBFkD024122; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:11:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192928@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:12:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The PLUG itself maybe, I wouldn't know, as members of the list have said, take that thing off and put on real ear plugs and they work great. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Gimer [mailto:t_gimer@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:08 PM To: dan; Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time --- dan wrote: > > Another problem was volume. I took my Johnny Cash > collection on a long > > Skyline/BRP solo trip last year and could barely hear > the man in black at > > speed. > Think I need an amp or something. > > AMP??? You wanna go deaf? If not get some of the in-ear > style headphones. > They cut out the wind/road noise so you can enjoy your > music at a > reasonable volume. IMO, cant beat these for the price: > > http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/02ProductDetailCall?ReadForm&Portable+S tereophones^THEPLUG koss' the PLUG would be better used as a BUTT PLUG. obviously, we're talking about a young or seldom-abused balloon knot here. (thanks, glenn!!) can you guess whether koss' products have worked well for me? -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:20:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JJxSi024430; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:19:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JJx9D024420; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:19:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 6 Sep 2002 19:19:58 -0000 Message-ID: <20020906191958.22312.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: butt plugs was something about driving... X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time ...^THEPLUG >koss' the PLUG would be better used as a BUTT PLUG. [Dave] Weren't you and Sean comparing notes about these things yesterday ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:20:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JKESi024467; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:20:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JKEY6024461; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:20:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:22:15 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time Message-ID: <5FC88C5B.219F61E0.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've got a slick little MP3 player that holds 6 hours of music and a set of Koss in the ear headphones. Can't think of what they are called but, they are comprised of a earpiece with a tube that goes directly into your ear. The tube is covered by a set of earplugs with a hole through them. I run the cord up through my jacket before I zip it up and have had no problems. Because of the way they are made, the sound quality is incredible. I'm sure they're not as good as the custom molded earplugs but, for ~$15, they work for me. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Fri, 6 Sep 2002 9:40:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: > > > I would love to have music when I ride. I ran with helmet speakers for a > while. Finally found a CD player that wouldn't skip (can you believe they > sell them for $20 in bubble plastic now?!?!) but the cords would always > whip around and get in the way. Some outdoor speakers and a head unit > would be sweet. For commuting anyway. > > My D220 rear tire showed up yesterday. Still waiting on the front. Sigh. > > At 10:06 AM 9/6/2002, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > >My BMW had an aftermarket radio/cassette stereo installed > on it when it was > >sitting on the showroom floor. > >I had them take if off before delivery. > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > 1997 Honda VFR 750 > AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ > NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:23:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JNLSi024724; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:23:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JNKnX024714; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:23:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906151804.0244b420@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:23:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time In-Reply-To: <20020906190802.56671.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:08 PM 9/6/2002, you wrote: >koss' the PLUG would be better used as a BUTT PLUG. >obviously, we're talking about a young or seldom-abused >balloon knot here. (thanks, glenn!!) > >can you guess whether koss' products have worked well for >me? Was it the Koss vibrating dildo / butt plug combo? http://www.troutman.org/Images/t418.jpeg I heard you had a thing for the t418, so I kept this picture around. PS - I love this list. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:28:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JSOSi024880; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:28:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JSNf6024870; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:28:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:28:11 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: brown@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: onboard music Message-ID: <6080C425.0C669EE2.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You shouldn't have too much problems. The magnets are usually pointed down toward the bike and there is usually something shielding them from the topside. I had the same worries with my GPS and my magnetic map pocket that I've got rigged up. Haven't tried it yet but, it should be ok. I actually strap my mp3 player around my leg so when I get off the bike, I don't have to unhook stuff. Works great and puts all the controls in easy reach. Scooter In a message dated Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:21:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, brown@XXXXXX writes: > > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 09:09:59 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Tom Gimer > > To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time > > > > shit, dude.... join the 21st century and get an mp3 player > > (route the damn cord correctly too!) > ... > > they also make jukeboxes of ~20gigs or so. these have more > > of a potential to skip (hard drive based), but i've still > > heard good things about 'em for m/c use. > > I have a 6g Archos -- been debating replacing it with an iPod. > Haven't used it on the bike yet, something about putting it into > a magnetic tank bag doesn't seem like a good idea. Has > anyone tried > this? > > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:29:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JTRSi024929; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:29:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JTQZS024917; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:29:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:27:14 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <5FC88C5B.219F61E0.0C9D3659@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <5FC88C5B.219F61E0.0C9D3659@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209061527142X.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 06 September 2002 15:22, ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > I've got a slick little MP3 player that holds 6 hours of music and a set of > Koss in the ear headphones. Can't think of what they are called but, they > are comprised of a earpiece with a tube that goes directly into your ear. > The tube is covered by a set of earplugs with a hole through them. I run > the cord up through my jacket before I zip it up and have had no problems. > Because of the way they are made, the sound quality is incredible. I'm > sure they're not as good as the custom molded earplugs but, for ~$15, they > work for me. ;-) > I have those earplugs as well and like them except that after a week of using them, my ear canal is sore and I can use them for a couple of days. That's why I got the "stick in the helmet" phones. They're loud enough to hear the music but the voices are fairly muted. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:33:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JXuSi025084; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:33:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JXtY1025074; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:33:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192934@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the sam e time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:34:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I don't have that problem, I usually listen to talk radio w/ them, so hearing voices isn't a problem either. The ear plugs look beat up after a little bit of use, the yellow seems to show dirt. It seems at higher speeds it's harder for me to get good radio reception though. At the beginning of my ride and once I'm in the city it isn't bad, but on the highway I get some static. I bought a couple of digital radios hoping to fix that problem, but they were worse than the little FM walkman I use. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Schelin [mailto:cschelin@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:27 PM To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX; mike@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time On Friday 06 September 2002 15:22, ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > I've got a slick little MP3 player that holds 6 hours of music and a set of > Koss in the ear headphones. Can't think of what they are called but, they > are comprised of a earpiece with a tube that goes directly into your ear. > The tube is covered by a set of earplugs with a hole through them. I run > the cord up through my jacket before I zip it up and have had no problems. > Because of the way they are made, the sound quality is incredible. I'm > sure they're not as good as the custom molded earplugs but, for ~$15, they > work for me. ;-) > I have those earplugs as well and like them except that after a week of using them, my ear canal is sore and I can use them for a couple of days. That's why I got the "stick in the helmet" phones. They're loud enough to hear the music but the voices are fairly muted. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:35:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JZQSi025337; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:35:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JZPx9025327; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:35:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:28:36 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: dan@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time Message-ID: <43120478.5B172102.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Agreed. Those are exactly what I've got. Just didn't look them up before I posted earlier. :-) They work great. Used them on my trip out to Cali and back. No problem with hearing at all. Scooter In a message dated Fri, 6 Sep 2002 1:42:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, dan@XXXXXX writes: > > > > Another problem was volume. I took my Johnny Cash collection on a long > > Skyline/BRP solo trip last year and could barely hear the man in black at > > speed. > Think I need an amp or something. > > AMP??? You wanna go deaf? If not get some of the in-ear style headphones. > They cut out the wind/road noise so you can enjoy your music at a > reasonable volume. IMO, cant beat these for the price: > > http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/02ProductDetailCall?Rea > dForm&Portable+Stereophones^THEPLUG > > Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:41:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Jf2Si025522; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:41:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Jf2Yn025512; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:41:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the sam e time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:38:51 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192934@SERVER1> In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192934@SERVER1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209061538512Y.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 06 September 2002 15:34, Rich Hall wrote: > I don't have that problem, I usually listen to talk radio w/ them, so > hearing voices isn't a problem either. The ear plugs look beat up after a > little bit of use, the yellow seems to show dirt. It seems at higher > speeds it's harder for me to get good radio reception though. At the > beginning of my ride and once I'm in the city it isn't bad, but on the > highway I get some static. I bought a couple of digital radios hoping to > fix that problem, but they were worse than the little FM walkman I use. > The only place I get any reception problems is at 95 as I pass The Pentagon. Which way do you come in and what stations do you listen to? I have a Sony jogger radio; straps to your arm. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:45:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JjZSi025590; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:45:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JjZ5i025580; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:45:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD519293B@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the sam e time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:46:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" McLean to DC (soon Ballston to DC) on 66, listening to WJFK, 106.7. It's a cheap Sony FM Walkman, I got it off my little brother. I keep it in the pocket of my jacket. -----Original Message----- From: Carl Schelin [mailto:cschelin@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:39 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the sam e time On Friday 06 September 2002 15:34, Rich Hall wrote: > I don't have that problem, I usually listen to talk radio w/ them, so > hearing voices isn't a problem either. It seems at higher > speeds it's harder for me to get good radio reception though. At the > beginning of my ride and once I'm in the city it isn't bad, but on the > highway I get some static. I bought a couple of digital radios hoping to > fix that problem, but they were worse than the little FM walkman I use. > The only place I get any reception problems is at 95 as I pass The Pentagon. Which way do you come in and what stations do you listen to? I have a Sony jogger radio; straps to your arm. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:47:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Jl7Si025627; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:47:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Jl7bT025616; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:47:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:41:19 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: cschelin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the sam e time Message-ID: <791B67E7.2836A47C.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've got the same radio. My first attempt at music on the bike actually. I put the strap at it's max width and strap it around my upper leg/thigh. Works good for reaching the controls and seeing the display. Took the same strap and used it with my mp3 player. Works the same. Scooter In a message dated Fri, 6 Sep 2002 2:38:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, cschelin@XXXXXX writes: > > > On Friday 06 September 2002 15:34, Rich Hall wrote: > > I don't have that problem, I usually listen to talk radio w/ them, so > > hearing voices isn't a problem either. The ear plugs look beat up after a > > little bit of use, the yellow seems to show dirt. It seems at higher > > speeds it's harder for me to get good radio reception though. At the > > beginning of my ride and once I'm in the city it isn't bad, but on the > > highway I get some static. I bought a couple of digital radios hoping to > > fix that problem, but they were worse than the little FM walkman I use. > > > > The only place I get any reception problems is at 95 as I pass The Pentagon. > Which way do you come in and what stations do you listen to? I have a Sony > jogger radio; straps to your arm. > > Carl > -- > Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) > finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and > address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:55:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JtXSi026044; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:55:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JtW54026037; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:55:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the sam e time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:53:21 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <791B67E7.2836A47C.0C9D3659@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <791B67E7.2836A47C.0C9D3659@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209061553212Z.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 06 September 2002 15:41, ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > I've got the same radio. My first attempt at music on the bike actually. > I put the strap at it's max width and strap it around my upper leg/thigh. > Works good for reaching the controls and seeing the display. Took the same > strap and used it with my mp3 player. Works the same. > > Scooter > I hook mine on my tail bag, run the radio lead from the Aircom to the input and the helmet connection to my helmet. I originally had it on my upper arm. I can reach back behind my right rear pocket and hit one of the buttons to change the station or volume pretty easily. Gotta watch the volume though *ow* Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:57:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86JvFSi026188; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:57:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86JvF6D026183; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:57:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the sam e time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:55:03 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD519293B@SERVER1> In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD519293B@SERVER1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090615550330.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 06 September 2002 15:46, Rich Hall wrote: > McLean to DC (soon Ballston to DC) on 66, listening to WJFK, 106.7. It's a > cheap Sony FM Walkman, I got it off my little brother. I keep it in the > pocket of my jacket. > I'm listening to 104.1 whatever the heck that station is. No talking at 5am or 3pm on the way home (or 5pm if I'm running late). Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 15:59:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Jx1Si026236; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:59:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Jx1Jq026225; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:59:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music was Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the sam e time Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:56:50 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <791B67E7.2836A47C.0C9D3659@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <791B67E7.2836A47C.0C9D3659@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090615565031.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 06 September 2002 15:41, ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > I've got the same radio. My first attempt at music on the bike actually. > I put the strap at it's max width and strap it around my upper leg/thigh. > Works good for reaching the controls and seeing the display. Took the same > strap and used it with my mp3 player. Works the same. > > Scooter > Around your *thigh*? I would need an extender strap to fit it around my thigh. 29" I think at last measurement (for the chaps which fit as of last night when I checked). That's why I ride a cruiser ;-) Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 16:06:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86K6OSi026539; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:06:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86K6OrR026529; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:06:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "dccycles" Subject: RE: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:07:09 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C31E@wash58.acs.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2002 20:05:15.0107 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7002330:01C255E0] I might go. Really muddy klr650 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 16:12:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86KCSSi026709; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:12:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86KCSil026699; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:12:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906201225.21026.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:12:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906151804.0244b420@mail.troutman.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Troutman wrote: > At 03:08 PM 9/6/2002, you wrote: > >koss' the PLUG would be better used as a BUTT PLUG. > >obviously, we're talking about a young or seldom-abused > >balloon knot here. (thanks, glenn!!) > > > >can you guess whether koss' products have worked well > for > >me? > > Was it the Koss vibrating dildo / butt plug combo? > > http://www.troutman.org/Images/t418.jpeg actually, no.... i was referring to their cheapio in-ear loudspeakers. quite frankly, i wouldn't trust my asshole to any product that koss makes. shit. i think i've finally made myself sick.... confirmed upon a re-reading. anyone who has ridden a ducati superbike knows that you don't need a koss product of any type to put a real nice hurtin' and heatin' on your backside.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 16:19:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86KJtSi026884; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:19:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86KJsou026871; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:19:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906194921.30642.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:49:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: butt plugs was something about driving... To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020906191958.22312.qmail@server445.gisol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the > same time > ...^THEPLUG > >koss' the PLUG would be better used as a BUTT PLUG. > > [Dave] Weren't you and Sean comparing notes about these > things yesterday ? that yanker was apparently far too busy with his vibrating broomstick to compare anything with me.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 16:39:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86KdDSi027118; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:39:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86KdCJY027108; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:39:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906203910.51753.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:39:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Isaac Blanck Subject: RE: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT To: Ricardo Pontes , dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i'm planning on going; maroon suzuki marauder 800 --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > I might go. > > Really muddy klr650 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 17:37:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Lb1Si027580; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:37:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Lb1D0027570; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:37:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:37:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209061737.AA190775772@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore X-Mailer: Yeah. I've been tempted to disconnect my rear brake's brake-light switch so I can control what drivers behind me see with just the front brake lever. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 13:46:20 EDT >In a message dated 9/6/2002 10:46:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: >> keep squeezing and releasing the brake lever - FLASH those lights. > >Damn straight! > >And remember you have two brake light switches, if you hold one you cannot >flash with the other. > > >John. >PenguinBiker@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 17:41:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86Lf7Si027659; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:41:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86Lf4we027644; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:41:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020906214102.17694.qmail@web11303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:41:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Subject: DC Inspection To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm leaving the comfy confines of Virginia for the city -- just closed on the new condo on Wednesday. Thus, I've started the first step of the DMV dance . . . the motorcycle inspection. Observation 1: People in queue are like cattle. We just sort of line up where we're herded without thought, question, or any semblance of individuality. There were three lines of cars. Line 1 - 7 cars. Line 2 - 5 cars. Line 3 - 1 car. Why? Because that's the general direction in which the lady at the gate pointed. But -- and here's the secret -- she doesn't care what line you go to. She's just gesturing in the right direction (as if the cones, lined pavement, and chainlink fence don't make it obvious enough). Anyway, I was generally directed into Line 2. Moo. I got into Line 3. Observation 2: Why do the supervisors at the inspection station need a badge on their belt? Do they make sneak undercover inspections and need to prove their identity? But, even in that case, doesn't the little nametag thing do it? Observation 3: Motorcycles get screwed. There are special lines for: 4x4s, old people, heavy duty vehicles, and oversized vehicles. All of these vehicles go through the same battery of tests as any other family sedan driven by someone under 55 -- safety check, exhaust gas inspection, etc. Motorcycles go through the safety check only -- blinkers, horn, highbeams. Is there a special line for this special class of vehicle? No. I get to the inspection line. I wait in line. I get to the inspection lane. I wait in line. I get to the front of the line. The inspection guy hops up on my bike(!), starts it, stalls it (!!), tries to start it with the throttle twisted and fails (it's fuel-injected), rides it forward three feet or so (!!!), slams on the brakes, and then shuts it off. What's up with that? In Virginia, all inspections were done with ME on the bike. I wouldn't place money on the fact that DC has a "drop it and I bought it" policy. I pass the inspection (apparently). I'm told to drive around to the front of the building and wait there. I do. And wait. And wait. The cars that were in front of me are busy doing their exhaust gas analysis, etc. I'm waiting. The cars initially in front of me make their way through the line. I'm waiting. The car that was directly in front of me leaves. I'm waiting. Finally, out comes someone with a sticker. Ooops. Not the kind that works too well on a bike (unless you have a desire to read the back of it. I'm waiting. Finally, the right sticker comes out, I put it on, and get ready to go. Why did I have to wait for the cars to come and go? Moo, I guess. Oh, and the sticker's only good for one year. "But the car in front of me got a sticker for two years," I protest. Stony silence. Then the explanation "Motorcycles must get inspected every year." Why??? No one knows. Moo-ooo. Anyway . . . Time arrived at inspection station: 4:10 pm. Time left the inspection station: 5:09 pm. Under an hour -- woohoo! (So, not so bad with the waiting. Except, I could've been out of there in twenty minutes.) -Aaron __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 18:01:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86M12Si028246; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:01:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86M127a028236; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:01:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1a7.7f9fa02.2aaa7f8f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:00:47 EDT Subject: RE: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 count me in for the bike night festivities! all of you should know what i drive by now --- the purple monster :) honda shadow (please note: i left off the word 'cute' even tho someone at work today told me that my m/c is cute!) see ya there! jenn From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 18:01:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86M1OSi028307; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:01:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86M1OQE028302; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:01:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [4.65.179.4] From: "Adam Wah" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Wheelie marks Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 22:01:16 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2002 22:01:16.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC945010:01C255F0] >From everything I've everseen (former tow truck owner and operator) by looking at the bike and the impact forensics on both the truck and the bike... one could accurately determine if the MC had his nose in the sky or not. This is not a conspiracy theory... it's science and it's routine on-scene observations. Pretty simple really. I have to give cops credit, they usually check everything...if there is a death involved, they REALLY ensure the facts and forensics corroberate. From: "Jeannette Zell" To: danthompson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Unfortunate Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 09:48:33 -0400 I guess when there's only one witness left to give the account, he could say anything he wants to. So sad. Rest in peace. Never mettle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and go well with Catsup. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 18:08:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86M8rSi028602; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:08:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86M8qHf028594; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:08:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <80.211f53f0.2aaa816a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:08:42 EDT Subject: Re: guitars and motorcycles.. etc. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 thanks for all of your suggestions! i usually store my bike about 15 miles northwest of me. since i have my bike with me, my car is where i usually store my bike. this is why i cant take my guitar to church 20 miles east of me in the car. (like i said in the last email -- poor planning.) i can have someone bring his spare. i can ride with it on my back with the neck facing down. that seems to be the best way. or i can strap it down as long as the guitar is completely protected from the bungee straps -- needs to be tight yet not harmful. now about that attachment to carry a bicycle or golf clubs. the whole bicycle thing looks like it rocks!! im not too interested in the golf club carrier for a few reasons. i dont golf and what's stopping the clubs from flying out and becoming a projectile!? (wasnt this just posted about yesterday with bottles/cans/etc?) ill let you know how it works out! id just stay home in western pa and go to church but we have some missionaries from africa visiting my church here this sunday -- cant miss that!? (plus i wanna try this whole guitar on the bike thing!) see ya sunday! jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 18:11:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86MBpSi028760; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:11:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86MBp8n028750; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:11:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [4.65.179.4] From: "Adam Wah" To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 22:10:44 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2002 22:10:45.0052 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F328FC0:01C255F2] I was up in the hills a few weeks ago and I was riding through a series whoopie dips that ended in a sharp left, skirting a rock face... any way there was a "roadside shrine" set up on this huge oak tree and the oak tree's bark was definately hacked and burned... must have been ugly. Also out on the Leed's Manor Road there is a series of whoopie dips (or whatever they're called) and last year there was a "roadside shrine" set up on this single track which went over a hill and through a cow fence.... it looked like the victim was riding bitch and died as a result.... >So for those of us who love the stunts, I remind you to be mindful to make sure there is no traffic around when you do it. I mean SURE. run off room would be nice too.. cuz hitting a tree and dying is dying all the same. Never mettle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and go well with Catsup. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 18:12:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86MCZSi028794; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:12:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86MCZ2X028784; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:12:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [4.65.179.4] From: "Adam Wah" To: sdave@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Dumb cops Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 22:12:28 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2002 22:12:28.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CBC3170:01C255F2] Cops aren't that stupid...FFC cops have Bachelors degrees in criminal justice Never mettle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and go well with Catsup. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 18:24:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86MOSSi029103; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:24:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86MORJB029093; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:24:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020906181949.01dd5b88@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 18:24:05 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906143933.0244e418@mail.troutman.org> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020906132938.0227c1c0@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:41 PM 9/6/2002 -0400, Troutman wrote: >At 02:42 PM 9/6/2002, dan wrote: >>AMP??? You wanna go deaf? If not get some of the in-ear style headphones. >>They cut out the wind/road noise so you can enjoy your music at a >>reasonable volume. IMO, cant beat these for the price: > >I wasn't looking for suggestions. I have tried in the ear - they don't >stay very well. I carved out styro from the helmet and placed high end >compact speakers in the shell. Worked very well around town - just not at >speed. An in-line amp probably would have cured it. Music has to make it >through my earplugs as well (old Shoei 800 had a lot of wind noise - >probably due to my cutting job with the styro!) Mike, I KNOW you didn't ask for suggestions but for anyone else who may be looking for an earplug that works *really* well and is CHEAP, check out the Koss "The Plug". It's like ear plugs that forms to your ear canal and has the added benefit of cutting out wind noise but you can still hear cars, sirens etc. But it makes a HUGE difference in sound quality. Nice deep bass. It comes with extra foam as well as extra foam inserts to accommodate different types of ear canals. I had the same problem you had with wind noise and low sound quality until I got turned on to these. Now I don't even have to turn up the volume more than 3/4. Here's a site that stocks them: http://www.headphones.com/headphones/html/koss/portable/koss_alternative.html?mySimon cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 18:25:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g86MPpSi029245; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:25:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g86MPpCw029235; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:25:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [4.65.179.4] From: "Adam Wah" To: j_picton@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 22:25:43 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Sep 2002 22:25:44.0129 (UTC) FILETIME=[5716D310:01C255F4] >I am with you - take the deep breath... I used to similiar stuff in the >past, but I am trying not to give in to the urge anymore... It's >getting >f*cking dangerous out there... And crowded and the little buzzbomb cars are quicker, people are HAVE watched the "Fast and the Furious" and the chase scene from RONIN & quite frankly... the odds of sliding HAVE increased. Superbikes are owned and operated by total idiots. Recipe for disaster...A man (or woman) has to know their limitations... I mean come on...we ALL popped wheelies and sped down the backroads and neighborhoods... but do you know what...putting a wheel in the air is so much easier with the right equipment that with a Honda CB350, or an old piece of crap HD or some old technology. Now with the HP and Torque available right out of the shop... bam. Hurt said 1/3 of MC accidents happen during wheelies... here is some other Hurt report stats... 90% of ALL MC accidents happen to riders who have been riding LESS than 1 year. What's the percentage of riders who are not licensed to ride... it's up there but I can't put my hand on it right. Anyway... everybody have a great weekend riding. I have to work the next 2 THEN I can hit the road on the 21st. Sad but true. seeya! "HONK IF YOU NEVER SEEN A WEAPON FIRED FROM A MOTORCYCLE" Never mettle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and go well with Catsup. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world)B’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 20:03:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8703mSi030279; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:03:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8703lJm030272; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:03:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <001901c25602$0542c360$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: "DC Cycles" References: Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:03:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Count me in, but I will be leaving from Annapolis around 7:30pm. Save me a space in the line, Black/blue Nighthawk, no specialty plates but new helmet yeah Scott 84 Honda Nighthawk CB700SC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: "DC Cycles" Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:22 PM Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Mark Kitchell wrote: > > OK PEOPLE > > > > I just got confirmation that parking is a GO. So get > > your asses to Bike Night this Sunday, 6PM, CarPool. > > > > The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. > > > > Not to start an AOL style cascade of "me 2's" but I'm planning on riding > there. Black VFR, "DEV VFR" plates. Anyone else? > > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 20:07:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8707WSi030539; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:07:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8707VUO030526; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:07:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <007601c25602$8dabe010$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: , References: <1a7.7f9fa02.2aaa7f8f@aol.com> Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:07:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Cagers, what do they know. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: RE: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT > count me in for the bike night festivities! all of you should know what i > drive by now --- the purple monster :) honda shadow (please note: i left > off the word 'cute' even tho someone at work today told me that my m/c is > cute!) > > see ya there! > > jenn > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 20:36:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g870aGSi030789; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:36:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g870aGL1030778; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:36:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <47.22b478c6.2aaaa3f6@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:36:06 EDT Subject: Re: Rearviews again to the fore To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 5:37:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: > Yeah. I've been tempted to disconnect my rear brake's brake-light switch so > I can control what drivers behind me see with just the front brake lever. On my last few bikes I have disconnected my front brake light with no problems. On one of them I was able to connect the wires to an unused button on the handlebars so I had a button I could push to wink my brake light. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 20:48:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g870mTSi030973; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:48:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g870mSWt030963; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:48:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <94.2c0dfb73.2aaaa6d1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:48:17 EDT Subject: collin To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 hello again :) i kinda chatted with collin today. he used to post here before moving away. for some reason he's unable to post to the list. *shrug* he says 'hello' to all and that he will be up for a visit mid-november. happy trails... jenn From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 20:49:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g870nOSi031008; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:49:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g870nNmB031004; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:49:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1a4.7fb02ec.2aaaa70a@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:49:14 EDT Subject: Re: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/6/2002 6:26:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hotrivet@XXXXXX writes: > Hurt said 1/3 of > MC accidents happen during wheelies... Nope. See http://www.magpie.com/nycmoto/hurt.html John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 21:04:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8714vSi031344; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 21:04:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8714tbx031334; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 21:04:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 18:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Squids 'r' Us :-) Message-ID: <20020906180122.N52359-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://home.attbi.com/~tdekeyserx/083002_redlinecrashbrokenpromowmvsm.wmv "Stupid hurts" -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 22:53:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g872rfSi031965; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:53:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g872rdbN031955; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:53:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:53:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: DC Inspection From: Jeff Steele To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <018D4EC7-C20D-11D6-BBBA-00306541B6AC@steele.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) > Observation 1: People in queue are like cattle. We > just sort of line up where we're herded without > thought, question, or any semblance of individuality. Aaron: Next time, just go to directly to the front of the line where the person directing cars through the gates is. They will let you go in. Then, if there is an empty lane, use that to get to the very front. That's what I did about a week ago. > > Observation 3: Motorcycles get screwed. There are > special lines for: 4x4s, old people, heavy duty > vehicles, and oversized vehicles. All of these > vehicles go through the same battery of tests as any > other family sedan driven by someone under 55 -- > safety check, exhaust gas inspection, etc. > Motorcycles go through the safety check only -- > blinkers, horn, highbeams. Is there a special line > for this special class of vehicle? No. > This is correct, but both I and other listers have been given preferential treatment and either allowed to (or explicitly directed to) cut to the head of the line. > The inspection guy hops up on my bike(!), starts it, > stalls it (!!), tries to start it with the throttle > twisted and fails (it's fuel-injected), rides it > forward three feet or so (!!!), slams on the brakes, > and then shuts it off. What's up with that? In > Virginia, all inspections were done with ME on the > bike. I wouldn't place money on the fact that DC has > a "drop it and I bought it" policy. > This is insane and never happened on any of my inspections. I wouldn't have allowed it. > I pass the inspection (apparently). I'm told to drive > around to the front of the building and wait there. I > do. And wait. And wait. The cars that were in front > of me are busy doing their exhaust gas analysis, etc. > I'm waiting. The cars initially in front of me make > their way through the line. I'm waiting. The car > that was directly in front of me leaves. I'm waiting. > Finally, out comes someone with a sticker. Ooops. > Not the kind that works too well on a bike (unless you > have a desire to read the back of it. I'm waiting. > Finally, the right sticker comes out, I put it on, and > get ready to go. Why did I have to wait for the cars > to come and go? Moo, I guess. > The guy who inspected your bike entered all the info into a hand held computer. That info gets uploaded to their main system and is used to print a sticker. However, the stickers are printed in the order that the data is entered (first in, first out). You just had to wait for the cars ahead of you to get their stickers before yours was printed. The guy who inspected my bike explained all of this to me. Welcome to DC Jeff Steele '99 XLH Sportster 883 Hugger From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 23:14:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g873EDSi032292; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:14:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g873EDxX032285; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:14:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020906230742.00a03510@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 23:14:21 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT In-Reply-To: <20020906171000.896.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Mark Kitchell posted: >The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. Pshaw......Rank amateurs. If I get out of Summit early enough, I'll ride out and officiate. Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 6 23:56:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g873uDSi032615; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:56:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g873uBOU032605; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:56:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" Cc: Subject: Re: Proper lock placement Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 23:54:52 -0400 Message-ID: <0ltinusg68hmvsvingpvaj885q7h2a3biu@4ax.com> References: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640913A@rnc1.rnchq.org> In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640913A@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g873uASi032588 Yes, use your clutch in and out smoothly, for the low speed turns, and practice brings confince. So i second all that stuff. About the lock, yes through the fame (and not sub frame!) and if your car has an alarm, even better lock it to that. Comprehensive insurance? Are you crazy? If someone steals your bike you'll be paying for years on something you can't see can't touch can't ride... somethign youll just cry about. Literally cry. over and over. You need to plot and plan and figure out a way to get full coverage. Discuss here, we'll help you out. there are a number of options. 1. register it in a trusted family member's name. 2. register it in a business name. 3. sell it and buy a bike that won't get stolen but is fun to ride. dude it really does happen all the time, people with no insurance get their bikes stolen or crashed up.. do you really want to be one of them? in the mean time, since you dont' have full coverage, I *HIGHLY* recommend you rent a storage unit for the bike and not leave it outside at night. If you can afford all the gear, the bike and what have you, you can afford the storage unit. probably 75 bux a month..but that's not bad as insurance on your 8,000 uninsured bike dude. Do it. Just imagine right now really think about it, what you would go th rough if your bike was gone! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 00:23:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g874NZSi000393; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 00:23:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g874NX96000386; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 00:23:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: Proper lock placement Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 00:23:26 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640913C@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Proper lock placement Thread-Index: AcJWIoCUHc+IadftRuKvoFeDJF0cTAAA6FLC From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: "Motor PsychoL Danny" Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g874NWSi000374 Yes, use your clutch in and out smoothly, for the low speed turns, and practice brings confince. So i second all that stuff. About the lock, yes through the fame (and not sub frame!) and if your car has an alarm, even better lock it to that. Comprehensive insurance? Are you crazy? If someone steals your bike you'll be paying for years on something you can't see can't touch can't ride... somethign youll just cry about. Literally cry. over and over. You need to plot and plan and figure out a way to get full coverage. Discuss here, we'll help you out. there are a number of options. 1. register it in a trusted family member's name. 2. register it in a business name. 3. sell it and buy a bike that won't get stolen but is fun to ride. dude it really does happen all the time, people with no insurance get their bikes stolen or crashed up.. do you really want to be one of them? in the mean time, since you dont' have full coverage, I *HIGHLY* recommend you rent a storage unit for the bike and not leave it outside at night. If you can afford all the gear, the bike and what have you, you can afford the storage unit. probably 75 bux a month..but that's not bad as insurance on your 8,000 uninsured bike dude. Do it. Just imagine right now really think about it, what you would go th rough if your bike was gone! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 01:01:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8751HSi000701; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 01:01:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8751GcL000691; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 01:01:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: Proper lock placement Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 01:01:09 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640913E@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Proper lock placement Thread-Index: AcJWIoCUHc+IadftRuKvoFeDJF0cTAAA9dUC From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" Cc: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8751ESi000674 >About the lock, yes through the fame (and not sub frame!) >and if your car has an alarm, even better lock it to that. What's the difference between a frame and a sub frame? Tonight, I just threw the chain around the back wheel, the bike chain, and the metal part that holds the wheel (swing arm?)... It seems to be tight and sturdy. >Comprehensive insurance? Are you crazy? If someone steals your bike >you'll be paying for years on something you can't see can't touch >can't ride... somethign youll just cry about. Literally cry. over and >over. You need to plot and plan and figure out a way to get full >coverage. Discuss here, we'll help you out. there are a number of >options. >1. register it in a trusted family member's name. >2. register it in a business name. >3. sell it and buy a bike that won't get stolen but is fun to ride. >dude it really does happen all the time, people with no insurance get >their bikes stolen or crashed up.. do you really want to be one of >them? >in the mean time, since you dont' have full coverage, I *HIGHLY* >recommend you rent a storage unit for the bike and not leave it >outside at night. If you can afford all the gear, the bike and what >have you, you can afford the storage unit. probably 75 bux a >month..but that's not bad as insurance on your 8,000 uninsured bike >dude. Do it. Just imagine right now really think about it, what you >would go th rough if your bike was gone! Actually, I do have full coverage. I have "collision" ($1000 deductible) and "comprehensive" ($500 deductible) from Progressive. According to Progressive: "Comprehensive Coverage: Pays for loss or damage to your covered vehicle caused by any event other than collision. This includes damages due to events such as fire, theft, windstorm, flood, and vandalism. We will also pay transportation and loss of use expenses under this coverage if your motor vehicle is stolen." So it looks like I'm set. I still worry though :) I'm thinking about taking the bike onto the grass in front of the apartments and chaining it to a tree :) I'll look into it tomorrow to see if that would work or if it would be too risky to leave it around on the grass like that. I can just imagine what the management will say if they see that though... They are... shall we say... "stringent" :) when it comes to anything and everything. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 04:35:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g878ZRSi002155; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:35:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g878ZNDH002145; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:35:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Jeff Steele Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC Inspection Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 04:34:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <018D4EC7-C20D-11D6-BBBA-00306541B6AC@steele.com> In-Reply-To: <018D4EC7-C20D-11D6-BBBA-00306541B6AC@steele.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g878ZMSi002133 What did the guy look like who hopped on your bike? tall ball headed? (reggie) short and jamacian? (seepoe) FYI other listers go to the employees only lane.. . they do give bikes preferential treatment as a few of them ride and more *like* bikes... so they normally wave bikes in to the front. I doubt anyone would give you a problem but say that you were directed to this lane the last time you were there... or you could say your looking for reggie or seepoe and say I (danny) told me to ask for them to inspect your bike or something. Reggie acts like a dick sometimes.. he mentions how he burns out peoples tires for kicks to scare them. He's lucky he doesn't get fired if you ask me... but he's okay.. could be worse. Danny From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 04:38:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g878chSi002510; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:38:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g878ch69002502; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 04:38:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Adam Wah" Cc: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 04:38:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g878cgSi002490 hmm road side shrines as markers of "someone crashed on t his spot" " you could too... be careful" is nto exactly a bad idea... say put a blade from a picket fence everywhere someone crashes... and you could see how serious some spots are. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 05:28:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g879ShSi003094; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 05:28:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g879Sg0B003084; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 05:28:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 05:28:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1a4.7fb02ec.2aaaa70a@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <1a4.7fb02ec.2aaaa70a@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g879SfSi003072 I recall reading on usenet the hurt report stated that 1/3 of all accidents were from wheelies... the link below is a summery. Maybe that statement is true and left out of that summery? On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:49:14 EDT, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >In a message dated 9/6/2002 6:26:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >hotrivet@XXXXXX writes: > >> Hurt said 1/3 of >> MC accidents happen during wheelies... > >Nope. > >See > http://www.magpie.com/nycmoto/hurt.html > > >John. >PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 06:44:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87AifSi003563; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 06:44:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87Aid8w003553; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 06:44:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D79D9DC.7192C96B@patriot.net> Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 06:50:04 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Motor PsychoL Danny CC: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: References: <1a4.7fb02ec.2aaaa70a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aha, usenet, an unimpeachable soure of absolutely correct information. ( I laugh hysterically). I don't recall "wheelies" coming into play in the Hurt report, and the 3 things from Hurt that stuck in my tiny brain are: The large percenatge of crashes caused by an alcohol impaired rider, running wide in turns, and overuse of rear brake. Bill Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > I recall reading on usenet the hurt report stated that 1/3 of all > accidents were from wheelies... the link below is a summery. Maybe > that statement is true and left out of that summery? > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 20:49:14 EDT, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > >In a message dated 9/6/2002 6:26:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >hotrivet@XXXXXX writes: > > > >> Hurt said 1/3 of > >> MC accidents happen during wheelies... > > > >Nope. > > > >See > > http://www.magpie.com/nycmoto/hurt.html > > > > > >John. > >PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 07:13:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87BDmSi003823; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 07:13:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87BDm9g003813; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 07:13:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [4.65.179.4] From: "Adam Wah" To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Real bike camping Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 11:13:41 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2002 11:13:41.0317 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F3BBF50:01C2565F] Cold cuts? What ever happened to a cold can of pork and beans and a warm can of suds? Oh and I suppose you use a "sleepy time bag" too. The only way to go is a 100% wool army (or navy aka squid) blanket which smells of mothballs. I went camping once up in tahoo with a case of MD 20/20 and 1 army blanket per (there were 4 or 5 of us), made a big fire (we were above the timberline) and FROOOOZE our a$$e$ off. We used to camp in Hatteras (B4 the invasion) and the mosquitoes were so big *how big were they* the could F a turkey flatfoot. I did learn to take a mosquito net tent. Repellent? Wear leather. During the day on beach was okay. >Real motorcycle camping means arriving at 10PM, in the >rain, to try and eat some coldcuts and get some sleep >before the 500 miles tomorrow! Never mettle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and go well with Catsup. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 07:26:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87BQeSi004010; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 07:26:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87BQbME003995; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 07:26:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D79E3B7.B3E4F3A7@patriot.net> Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 07:32:07 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Wah CC: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Real bike camping References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Back in the good ol' days (`80s), my on the road camping was rest stops. Flake out the bedroll on a picnic table and *snoozzee*. Now the LEOs don't take kindly to that. Except in the south where the border Welcome rest stops have actual campsites! Advice: Do not tour Canada after Labor Day. They close the campgrounds, you have to wheel the bike around the gate and tuck it behind bushes while you snooze. Not to mention, it's winky-shrivaling cold! Woke up more'n one morning with breath frost on the inside of the tent. Bill Adam Wah wrote: > Cold cuts? What ever happened to a cold can of pork and beans and a warm > can of suds? Oh and I suppose you use a "sleepy time bag" too. The only > way to go is a 100% wool army (or navy aka squid) blanket which smells of > mothballs. > > I went camping once up in tahoo with a case of MD 20/20 and 1 army blanket > per (there were 4 or 5 of us), made a big fire (we were above the > timberline) and FROOOOZE our a$$e$ off. > > We used to camp in Hatteras (B4 the invasion) and the mosquitoes were so big > *how big were they* > the could F a turkey flatfoot. > > I did learn to take a mosquito net tent. Repellent? Wear leather. > During the day on beach was okay. > > >Real motorcycle camping means arriving at 10PM, in the > >rain, to try and eat some coldcuts and get some sleep > >before the 500 miles tomorrow! > > Never mettle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and go well with > Catsup. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 08:16:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87CGqSi004449; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 08:16:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87CGmjD004434; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 08:16:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020907121646.44444.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 05:16:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: RE: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <1a7.7f9fa02.2aaa7f8f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well we can finally see if all your self promotion has any merit. --- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > count me in for the bike night festivities! all of > you should know what i > drive by now --- the purple monster :) honda shadow > (please note: i left > off the word 'cute' even tho someone at work today > told me that my m/c is > cute!) > > see ya there! > > jenn > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 08:31:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87CVCSi004751; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 08:31:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87CVCXs004741; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 08:31:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 08:30:42 -0400 Subject: Italianmotofest Sept.21-22 From: Bob McKeithen To: DC Cycles Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Folks The Italianmotofest is scheduled for two days this year. All makes welcome, but bike is open only to Italian makes. Full info a www.italianmotofest.com Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 09:15:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87DFmSi005072; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 09:15:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87DFluE005062; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 09:15:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.49.179.96] From: "Tim Spong" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: guitars and motorcycles Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 13:14:37 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2002 13:14:38.0176 (UTC) FILETIME=[84A88E00:01C25670] I regularly carry a guitar or bass on my bike. I use the softcase that has the backpack style shoulder straps. I don't have much hassle with the wind at all. If you find it pulling too much, just slow down. You should adjust the shoulder strap length so that the bottom of the guitar rests on the seat behind you. This way you will minimise the amount sticking up over your head. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 10:53:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87ErRSi005594; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:53:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87ErQ8n005584; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:53:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020907103832.039e1740@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 10:39:09 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Discuss Amongst Yourselves ;-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: September 6, 2002 >CONTACT: Eric Skrum, Communications Director >608-849-6000 or nma@XXXXXX > >Fix The Problem, Not Your Budget (National Stop on Red Week) > >National Stop On Red Week should be renamed "get a ticket camera and make >money." This is a public relations device used to promote the use of red >light cameras and raise revenue for unethical cities, while ignoring proven >solutions that reduce accidents. > >Actual experience has shown that the most likely solution to intersections >with high rates of violations is a simple increase in the yellow light >duration. Yet, ticket camera merchants and revenue-strapped cities refuse >to apply this inexpensive engineering solution. They prefer to apply >cameras that reward the city for poor engineering practices. > >Every study that supports red light cameras has been discredited. It has >been shown in each instance where red light cameras were credited to have >decreased accidents, that the real cause was an engineering improvement to >the intersection. Even the AAA has stated that engineering solutions should >be the preferred method of decreasing violations. > >But something as simple as increasing the yellow light duration has >continually been rebuffed in favor of profit. > >Ticket cameras greatest practical harm is that they reward and perpetuate >improper installation, maintenance and operation of traffic lights. >Motorists should not be penalized and cities rewarded because cities have >failed their responsibility to provide safe, properly engineered >intersections. Ticket cameras cannot correct traffic signal flaws and they >do not eliminate intersection accidents. > >If you would like to find more detailed information on ticket cameras versus >real solutions to intersection violations and accidents, please visit >http://www.motorists.org/pressreleases/cameras/index.html > >The National Motorists Association (NMA) was established in 1982 to >represent the interests and rights of North American motorists. It operates >at the national level and through a system of state chapters. The NMA is >supported through the contributions of individuals, families and small >businesses. For more information about the NMA, call 608-849-6000, Email us >at nma@XXXXXX, or visit the NMA web site at http://www.motorists.org. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 N38.84810 W77.44614 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 11:52:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87FqKSi005961; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:52:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87FqJ6G005953; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:52:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Progressive and Track Day Wreck Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:52:17 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c25686$8b210a80$6401a8c0@cypher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at pop016.verizon.net from [141.156.170.76] using ID at Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:52:09 -0500 Any Progressive customers ever made a claim for a track day wreck? Rob C. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 12:36:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87GajSi006267; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:36:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87Gai90006257; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:36:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" To: "'DC-CYCLES'" Subject: RE: Progressive and Track Day Wreck Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:28:16 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01c2568b$bfd5d4e0$3a81c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000001c25686$8b210a80$6401a8c0@cypher> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Nope. But don't they exclude track events from coverage? Dave Yates -----Original Message----- From: Rob Curtis [mailto:rm.curtis@XXXXXX] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 11:52 AM To: DC-CYCLES Subject: Progressive and Track Day Wreck Any Progressive customers ever made a claim for a track day wreck? Rob C. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 14:17:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87IHISi006854; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:17:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87IHHPD006847; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:17:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926C6@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: "'DC-CYCLES '" Subject: Insurance (was Proper lock placement) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 14:18:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Witold said he has 1000 for collision and 500 for comprehensive. I have 250 for coll and 500 for comp. My '94 Seca II is cheaper to insure than an R6 and less likely to be stolen. Do most have a higher deductable on collision or comprehensive? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 16:29:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87KTnSi007635; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:29:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87KThbQ007620; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:29:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020907162022.009f54f0@mail.hq.nasa.gov> X-Sender: cschelin@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:21:43 -0400 To: Motor PsychoL Danny , "Adam Wah" From: Carl Schelin Subject: Re: Cc: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Out in Montana they have these little crosses where people have died put up by some group. It's very strange and at some places there are a half-dozen or so. Most of the time there are only one or two. Carl At 04:38 AM 9/7/02 -0400, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: >hmm road side shrines as markers of "someone crashed on t his spot" >" you could too... be careful" is nto exactly a bad idea... say put >a blade from a picket fence everywhere someone crashes... and you >could see how serious some spots are. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 16:31:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87KV7Si007672; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:31:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87KV7k2007663; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:31:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020907162258.009e4370@mail.hq.nasa.gov> X-Sender: cschelin@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:24:19 -0400 To: "DC Cycles" From: Carl Schelin Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT In-Reply-To: <001901c25602$0542c360$9865fea9@Godzilla> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'm bringing a guest tomorrow. A couple of months ago a couple moved on across the street. He has a 550 Ninja? Well, 550 something. While outside raking, weeding, and mowing, I stopped by and asked if he was interested. See you all tomorrow. Carl At 08:03 PM 9/6/02 -0400, S. Russell wrote: >Count me in, but I will be leaving from Annapolis around 7:30pm. Save me a >space in the line, Black/blue Nighthawk, no specialty plates but new helmet >yeah > >Scott >84 Honda Nighthawk CB700SC > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Daniel H. Brown" >To: "DC Cycles" >Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:22 PM >Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT > > > > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Mark Kitchell wrote: > > > OK PEOPLE > > > > > > I just got confirmation that parking is a GO. So get > > > your asses to Bike Night this Sunday, 6PM, CarPool. > > > > > > The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. > > > > > > > Not to start an AOL style cascade of "me 2's" but I'm planning on riding > > there. Black VFR, "DEV VFR" plates. Anyone else? > > > > > > -- > > Dan Brown > > brown@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 16:44:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87Ki7Si007956; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:44:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87Ki6Kn007946; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:44:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" To: "'DC-CYCLES '" Subject: RE: Insurance (was Proper lock placement) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:45:24 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c256af$866dbf00$1b82c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926C6@SERVER1> Witold said he has 1000 for collision and 500 for comprehensive. I have 250 for coll and 500 for comp. [Dave] If you can afford to take that much of a hit financially, and need to save on rates, then the high deductibles are ok. OTOH, if you're involved in an accident which costs $2500 to repair & you carry a 1k deductible.. that's a lot out of pocket. Back before they were becoming anti bike, I had $100 deductibles on both... Then I had to change, and SF has a 250 minimum on (at least one of the 2) coverages... Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 16:53:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87Kr2Si008146; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:53:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87Kr1M9008136; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 16:53:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: Re: Progressive and Track Day Wreck Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 15:50:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A64196230432B48B@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Progressive and Track Day Wreck Thread-Index: AcJWsIddCB48Ec5wQOeUhmpoUU05xw== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g87Kr0Si008122 Since you were taking a riding class on a private closed course, I don't see why not. Check the NESBA message board George >>> Rob Curtis 09/07/02 11:52AM >>> Any Progressive customers ever made a claim for a track day wreck? Rob C. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 17:05:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87L5lSi008346; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 17:05:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87L5lrA008336; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 17:05:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 Subject: RE: Insurance (was Proper lock placement) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 17:05:40 -0400 Message-ID: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A666409143@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Insurance (was Proper lock placement) Thread-Index: AcJWr2TIympMoLgKTWqGUwYrTxsOhwAAVwgw From: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" To: "DC-CYCLES " Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g87L5jSi008319 I plan to shop around for better rates after 2-3 months. I don't remember if lower deductibles were considerably more expensive, but my reasoning behind my choices is that if the bike gets stolen, I'll be out only $500. If I crash it, I may be out $1000, but I'll have more important things on my mind. On a sidenote, today was my first longer ride. I took the bike from Vienna to Capitol Hill. I took Lee Highway->Gtown->down PA ave... It took me forever because there's stuff going on near the White House, I didn't want to lane split, and I can't just go through the blocked off areas like I do on my bicycle. Overall, it was a smooth ride. My parking lot hours really went a long way in building some confidence and improving my smoothness. As for other cars, yes, a lot of them didn't seem to see me, but a lot more of them see me on my motorcycle than on my bike. (I take the same route on my bicycle quite often) Now I need to find a nice big EMPTY parking lot so I can practice smooth turns/leans, braking from higher speeds, swerving. (All of the harder MSF excercises.) Maybe I'll even make it to bike nite. I'll be the really really slow blue R6 that pressed the horn button instead of the turn signal when pulling into the parking lot... hehehe... Witold www.witold.org -----Original Message----- From: Dave Yates [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 4:45 PM To: 'DC-CYCLES ' Subject: RE: Insurance (was Proper lock placement) Witold said he has 1000 for collision and 500 for comprehensive. I have 250 for coll and 500 for comp. [Dave] If you can afford to take that much of a hit financially, and need to save on rates, then the high deductibles are ok. OTOH, if you're involved in an accident which costs $2500 to repair & you carry a 1k deductible.. that's a lot out of pocket. Back before they were becoming anti bike, I had $100 deductibles on both... Then I had to change, and SF has a 250 minimum on (at least one of the 2) coverages... Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 19:36:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g87NakSi009396; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 19:36:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g87Najoc009386; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 19:36:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020907193416.009fda00@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 19:36:53 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: guitars and motorcycles In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed While we're on the subjecy of guitars and motorcycles..... (This is on-topic, I swear!) I took a sales position with Guitar Center in Fairfax recently, after being laid off from Worldcom. Sometime in the next week, we'll be getting an Indian Chief (the 2002 model) as a display for a contest we're promoting. (You can actually win a 2002 Indian Chief, as well as lots of Gibson stuff.) I'm actually in the Pro Audio dept., (PA's, studio recording, etc.), but stop by and check it out, and say hi while you're at it. (Here's my guitar collection for any of you stringophiles out there.) http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/guitar.html Ride safe! Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 20:03:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8803aSi009762; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:03:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8803ZRk009752; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:03:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Gary Foreman" To: "'Sean Jordan'" , Subject: Did someone say Guitars ??? Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:06:27 -0400 Message-ID: <004d01c256cb$94c95ed0$1b06030a@5Q39911> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020907193416.009fda00@mail.mac.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Okay, here's my collection. http://www.gwfweb.com/guitars Do we get a DC-Cycles discount :-) Gary Foreman TL Owners Club http://www.tl1000.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 23:24:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g883OtSi010916; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:24:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g883Orvl010906; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:24:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:25:47 -0400 From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: onboard music Message-ID: <6465C27D.3A89FA5A.222F748D@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit bill states: > Screw all those ee-lek-tron-ick dee-vices! I sing to > meself, vintage rock & > rock. Get some cool reverbs inside a full face! > > Not to mention me singing definately keeps me awake... im with bill on this one! no fancyschmancy gadgets for me either. (mainly cuz i cant afford them!) if you're ever following behind me and you wonder why it looks like i have a 'bobble-head' --- its cuz im singing and really getting into it! no reverb of the fullface helmet; however, on a chilly morning, it can fog up the face shield!! jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Sep 7 23:37:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g883bfSi011122; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:37:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g883bfLK011112; Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:37:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7AC750.B1D5BB20@patriot.net> Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:43:12 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: onboard music References: <6465C27D.3A89FA5A.222F748D@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > bill states: > > Screw all those ee-lek-tron-ick dee-vices! I sing to > > meself, vintage rock & > > rock. Get some cool reverbs inside a full face! > > > > Not to mention me singing definately keeps me awake... > > im with bill on this one! no fancyschmancy gadgets for me either. (mainly cuz i cant afford them!) if you're ever following behind me and you wonder why it looks like i have a 'bobble-head' --- its cuz im singing and really getting into it! no reverb of the fullface helmet; however, on a chilly morning, it can fog up the face shield!! > > jtb Trick - crack the visor open a scooch. Keeps it from fogging. Sometimes I get more than a bobble-head, hey, gotta dance! Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 00:00:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8840rSi011364; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 00:00:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8840qAu011354; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 00:00:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020908040049.32702.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:00:49 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Drive your cage and Surf the net all at the same time To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20020906181949.01dd5b88@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Aki Damme wrote: > *really* well and is CHEAP, check out the Koss "The Plug". It's like > ear > plugs that forms to your ear canal > and has the added benefit of cutting out wind noise but you can still > hear > cars, sirens etc. I believe I have a set of these. BO and they're yours. I went with over-the-ear types. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 00:19:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g884JoSi011717; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 00:19:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g884JodW011707; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 00:19:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:28:11 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda Subject: old leathers To: DC-Cycles Reply-to: shonda@XXXXXX Message-id: <3D7AD1DB.55AE60D7@attglobal.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [ja] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: ja I was doing some house cleaning and found some old leathers... it doesn't fit me anymore. If any one is interested I can bring it on the bike night. (yes these are free $0.00) 1) One Leather Jacket, size is kind of between Small to Medium... may be 38-40? 2) One Leather pants, size is some what close to 32x30 or 30x30... -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 08:36:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88CaOSi026643; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 08:36:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88CaLlZ026636; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 08:36:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7B443E.9070302@atlantech.net> Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 08:36:14 -0400 From: Jim Shoemaker User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-CYCLES Subject: Re: Progressive and Track Day Wreck References: <000001c25686$8b210a80$6401a8c0@cypher> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep. I just fininshed up a claim with them for my little incident at Pridmore's CLASS school in July. They called the school and confirmed that it wasn't a race. They listed the type of loss as "collision--failure to maintain control," which I wasn't too happy about. I didn't hit anybody or anything but the ground. I should have just told them I dropped my bike...at 35 mph. (I lowsided in T14 at VIR when I touched a foot peg down too hard and levered the back tire off the ground.) --Jim Rob Curtis wrote: >Any Progressive customers ever made a claim for a track day wreck? > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 09:51:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88DpfSi027102; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:51:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88Dpc6G027087; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:51:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <9b.2d1fcf43.2aacafde@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 09:51:26 EDT Subject: Re: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/7/2002 5:28:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, motorcycle@XXXXXX writes: > the link below is a summery. Maybe > that statement is true and left out of that summery? Do you seriously propose that what at over thirty three percent would be the single largest cause of motorcycle accidents was left out of the official summary? The fact is that Hurt makes either no mention of wheelies or they are so insignificant a cause of motorcycle accidents there was no need to mention them in any summary. Do you propose that MSF an organization that bases its training in large part on the Hurt report somehow missed this? There is no mention of wheelies in their curriculum. It would be nice to think that one could reduce ones chances of being in a motorcycle accident by 33% by simply keeping ones front wheel on the ground, but it just aint so. If you are going to quote a source you need to at least read the source you are quoting, saying the Hurt report says is not the same as saying so and so says the Hurt report says. Good lord use your own experience! You know damn good and well that even among the hotshots you no doubt hang around with wheelies do not cause one out of every three crashes. When you factor in all the bikes out there that could not wheelie with a rocket tied to the front forks the idea becomes ridiculous. The Hurt report with its recommendations totals as I recall 800 pages of thrilling page turning statistics and accident analysis, I doubt anyone here has, or will, ever read it cover to cover, but those who have clearly found no statistically valid danger associated with wheelies. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 10:08:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88E8ASi027302; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:08:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88E8AvK027297; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:08:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7B5B14.D802B3CB@patriot.net> Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 10:13:40 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Kitchell CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT References: <20020906171000.896.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hot dang! I have negotiated a release with The Boss and will be able to make Bike Night. Probably around 7ish. Black Harley bagger with an OBX sticker on the rear fender. Dusty and rusty. Yep, rode hard and put away wet :-) Bill Mark Kitchell wrote: > OK PEOPLE > > I just got confirmation that parking is a GO. So get > your asses to Bike Night this Sunday, 6PM, CarPool. > > The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. > > Mark > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 10:34:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88EYGSi027627; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:34:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88EYGgv027617; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 10:34:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7B6131.ECD786D1@patriot.net> Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 10:39:45 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: References: <9b.2d1fcf43.2aacafde@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > Good lord use your own experience! You know damn good and well that even > among the hotshots you no doubt hang around with wheelies do not cause one > out of every three crashes. When you factor in all the bikes out there that > could not wheelie with a rocket tied to the front forks the idea becomes > ridiculous. That would be me! A wheelie on a Harley bagger? I don't think so, not enough power and way too much tonnage. I did see a picture of an FLH Harley in a full wheelie. Riding pillion to move the CG waaay back was an *wide-load* woman who could only be wieghed accurately on truck scales. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 11:10:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88FAXSi027914; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 11:10:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88FAWhl027904; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 11:10:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7B6780.9030203@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 11:06:40 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rm.curtis@XXXXXX CC: DC-CYCLES Subject: Re: Progressive and Track Day Wreck References: <000001c25686$8b210a80$6401a8c0@cypher> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob, Track riding = no insurance coverage with (virtually) all insurance companies that insure your m/c for street use. If you make a claim (and track riding is specifically excluded; check your insurance coverage), then it's technically fraud. Chuck Rob Curtis wrote: > Any Progressive customers ever made a claim for a track day wreck? > > Rob C. > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 13:10:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88HAXSi028600; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 13:10:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88HAWrp028592; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 13:10:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Discuss Amongst Yourselves ;-) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 13:10:18 -0400 Message-ID: <9r0nnuk490i1nl9ub00t6ik53mi18gujis@4ax.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020907103832.039e1740@mail.troutman.org> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020907103832.039e1740@mail.troutman.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g88HAVSi028575 On the flip side of the argument it's like the lottery... it's a tax on people who should know better.. tax and punishment on people who drive too fast through intersections and run red lights. That sounds pretty good vs gov'ts raising taxes on everyone. Now if they are shortening the yellow light time, then that's rotten. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 13:21:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88HLUSi028810; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 13:21:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88HLUu8028802; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 13:21:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" Cc: "DC-CYCLES " Subject: Re: Insurance (was Proper lock placement) Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 13:21:22 -0400 Message-ID: References: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A666409143@rnc1.rnchq.org> In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A666409143@rnc1.rnchq.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g88HLTSi028790 Oh I was thinking you had collision only, from the way I read that post. I tell new riders they should work on swerving over 2 lanes. Sometimes A car will stop, and he car behind it will swerve over one lane and stop...and your'e following that car, so what is it you probably need to do? swerve over 2 lanes. Remember bikes swerve and lean faster by steering than by leaning. Push left go left, push right, go right. by the way I meant to say, if your car has an alarm, try chaining the bike to that or using a second lock to go from the wheel to the undercarriage of the car, maybe if a theif tries to steal it, the theives might set off the car alarm, saving your bike. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 14:24:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88IOMSi029289; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:24:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88IOL90029279; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:24:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" Cc: Subject: RE: Discuss Amongst Yourselves ;-) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:24:18 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c25765$01f2d4c0$2582c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <9r0nnuk490i1nl9ub00t6ik53mi18gujis@4ax.com> Importance: Normal RE cameras for traffic enforcement: On the flip side of the argument it's like the lottery... it's a tax on people who should know better.. [Dave] Simply throwing up a camera to snap pictures of red light runners is no guarantee that the light is correctly timed and has a sufficient interval to begin with. If the light is only allowing 5 cars to get through / green light on the primary road, it *SHOULD* be run. Ok, that's extreme, but the problem with the premise of 'they should know better' is that a pretty high percentage of lights are put up around this region with no standing to do so other than 'quality of life' issues. Huntington Avenue near the metro is a good example. The speed limit is 30, with a 'special enforcement zone'. This is because pedestrians cross wherever they damn well please, regardless of safety, sometimes daring cages to stop. sometimes, to the detriment of the pedestrian. And the local 'neighborhood associations' give you the impression it's the Indy 500 front straight, when in reality traffic is largely going 40 - 48 ... I travel that road much less frequently now due to volume of traffic during rush hour. My work commute is fraught with mistimed, short interval lights & lights which force extended idling. Just like toll booths, they make people queue up needlessly idling, waiting for little or no reason. After about 5 or 6 of these, you've lost 10 - 18 minutes... The alleged 'short yellow' phenomenon *DOES* exist, Duke street is a good example, with sometimes sub 3 second yellows, not supporting the speed limits (35 mostly). When there's WW bridge trouble in the PM, traffic will backup on Duke for just over a mile to get to Telegraph & the Beltway. At Least Alexandria puts cops at the Duke to Telegraph exit to send the 'me first' drivers on their not so merry way when they try the last second cut in line trick ;-) I wish Alexandria would put cops at Duke & Quaker Lane to prevent people from entering, without clearing the intersection... People know they shouldn't run red lights. They also know they shouldn't speed but they do both anyway. There are several reasons for this. 1: Monkey see, Monkey do. - Who here *HASN'T* seen a cop come to a red, hit the bubble gums, clear the intersection, turn them off ? 2: Ridiculous waits - waiting for minutes on end while there's nobody else around. 3 'Feel good' lights, put up for no legitimate traffic need, only for 'traffic calming' (more appropriately called, motorist enraging). 4 - Most importantly, If it's not only about the money, then WHY are there no penalties other than monetary ? If it's TRULY about safety, then remove the money from the equation, and upon conviction, make the penalty 1 day in jail or 1 day of community service, or more. IF after all, it's really only about safety, as our esteemed region's politicos assert, then they would be pushing for serious criminal penalties for these SERIOUS offenses. They don't, because that would take away their incentive. tax and punishment on people who drive too fast through intersections and run red lights. That sounds pretty good vs. gov'ts raising taxes on everyone. [Dave] How about instead, a referendum on a 50% across the board pay and benefit cut for all elected officials, no more free travel on the taxpayer's back, and eliminating redundant, duplicated & useless government agencies first ... Just like former Gubner Wilder suggested Virginia do a few weeks ago (not the pay cut) . If it's really about safety, then put some jail time with the 'serious crime'. Stop trying to soak out of staters & tourists, as well as residents with covering up the financial mismanagement of the government, it's dishonorable. Dave Now if they are shortening the yellow light time, then that's rotten. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 14:49:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88InUSi029607; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:49:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88InTnJ029599; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 14:49:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 14:48:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <9b.2d1fcf43.2aacafde@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <9b.2d1fcf43.2aacafde@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g88InSSi029587 I think i figured out this misquote. I remember someone stating 30% of all motorcycle accidents were wheelies , and thought i read it too to back it up, years ago on usenet. (maybe it was sportibkes? which could be true?) OR maybe someone saw that 30% of motorcycle accidents involved no other vehicle therefore that someone thought that meant wheelies, and of course wrong. I coulda swore I read it, but obviously I'm wrong. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 19:30:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g88NUBSi031328; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 19:30:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g88NUAYC031318; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 19:30:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020908232957.32703.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 16:29:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: VTR For Sale (new low price!) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've decided to lower the price of the VTR to $4995 (yeah it's another one of those dirty Madison Avenue pricing tricks). I have also put together a quick and dirty web page with photos of the bike and a list of modifications: http://www.dccycles.com/vtrforsale.htm Please feel free to forward this URL to anyone you know you may be interested. As Bartles and James would say, thank you for your support. Chris Weaver __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 21:44:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g891iqSi032164; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:44:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g891inHq032149; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:44:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.0.1.4.2.20020908214100.00a67810@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> X-Sender: brown@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.1 Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:43:29 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Dan Brown Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT In-Reply-To: <20020906171000.896.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Mark, Chuck -- outstanding job! Bike night was great. Really amazing turn out. Nice to meet people and put faces to the email addresses. I think we surprised the CarPool people though. I believe I heard someone say there were only 2 wait staff working. Great to see all the bikes though! -- Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 21:55:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g891ttSi032375; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:55:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g891ttSf032368; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:55:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:51:28 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX To: brown@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Message-ID: <1DE5467E.65E3A190.1056E6D9@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Agreed. I had a great time looking at all the bikes and putting some more names to faces. Can't wait til the next one. April? Chck? Mark? ;-) Met Jenn the Biker and yes, she is a she. ;-) And her purple bike is "cute" too. LOL I was also happy to see that Witold (pronounced Vito) managed to attend. Showed up in all the appropriate gear, no scuffs on the bike and a real nice person to talk to. Witold, like I said, if you want to get together for a relaxed, one-on-one ride, or just to hang out, let me know. I think you're right. I don't think the staff at Carpool was expecting such a big turnout. :-) Scooter In a message dated Sun, 8 Sep 2002 8:43:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, brown@XXXXXX writes: > Mark, Chuck -- outstanding job! Bike night was great. > > Really amazing turn out. Nice to meet people and put faces to the > email addresses. I think we surprised the CarPool people though. I > believe I heard someone say there were only 2 wait staff > working. > > Great to see all the bikes though! > -- > Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 21:59:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g891xnSi032456; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:59:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g891xnLK032448; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 21:59:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7BFF08.3090806@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:53:12 -0400 From: Chuck and Karen Pena Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-CYCLES Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT References: <5.0.1.4.2.20020908214100.00a67810@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A very big THANK YOU to everyone who came to Bike Night at CarPool. We counted 90+ bikes tonight! That's a record. I suppose with some arm twisting, Mark and I might be talked into doing at least one more Bike Night. But not until next year. And this last one will be hard to top. I'd rather "retire" on a high note. %^) If you have digital pics of tonight's Bike Night, please get them to me so I can post them on the website. Thanx! Chuck Dan Brown wrote: > > Mark, Chuck -- outstanding job! Bike night was great. > > Really amazing turn out. Nice to meet people and put faces to the > email addresses. I think we surprised the CarPool people though. I > believe I heard someone say there were only 2 wait staff working. > > Great to see all the bikes though! > > > > -- > Resist or Serve > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Sep 8 22:01:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8921iSi032623; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:01:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8921iPV032615; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:01:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:01:29 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX To: scooterfzr@XXXXXX, brown@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Message-ID: <4AF9C170.209FD9D1.1056E6D9@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That should have been "Can't wait til the next one IN April?" ;-) Scooter In a message dated Sun, 8 Sep 2002 8:51:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, scooterfzr writes: > > > Agreed. I had a great time looking at all the bikes and putting some more names to faces. Can't wait til the next one. April? Chck? Mark? ;-) Met Jenn the Biker and yes, she is a she. ;-) And her purple bike is "cute" too. LOL I was also happy to see that Witold (pronounced Vito) managed to attend. Showed up in all the appropriate gear, no scuffs on the bike and a real nice person to talk to. Witold, like I said, if you want to get together for a relaxed, one-on-one ride, or just to hang out, let me know. > > I think you're right. I don't think the staff at Carpool was expecting such a big turnout. :-) > > Scooter > > In a message dated Sun, 8 Sep 2002 8:43:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, brown@XXXXXX writes: > > > Mark, Chuck -- outstanding job! Bike night was great. > > > > Really amazing turn out. Nice to meet people and put faces to the > > email addresses. I think we surprised the CarPool people > though. I > > believe I heard someone say there were only 2 wait staff > > working. > > > > Great to see all the bikes though! > > -- > > Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 06:07:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89A7OSi002990; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:07:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89A7NWR002980; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:07:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "William J. Huson" , Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Subject: Re: onboard music Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:04:58 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX References: <6465C27D.3A89FA5A.222F748D@aol.com> <3D7AC750.B1D5BB20@patriot.net> In-Reply-To: <3D7AC750.B1D5BB20@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090906045833.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Saturday 07 September 2002 23:43, William J. Huson wrote: > Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > bill states: > > > Screw all those ee-lek-tron-ick dee-vices! I sing to > > > meself, vintage rock & > > > rock. Get some cool reverbs inside a full face! > > > > > > Not to mention me singing definately keeps me awake... > > > > im with bill on this one! no fancyschmancy gadgets for me either. > > (mainly cuz i cant afford them!) if you're ever following behind me and > > you wonder why it looks like i have a 'bobble-head' --- its cuz im > > singing and really getting into it! no reverb of the fullface helmet; > > however, on a chilly morning, it can fog up the face shield!! > > > > jtb > > Trick - crack the visor open a scooch. Keeps it from fogging. Sometimes I > get more than a bobble-head, hey, gotta dance! > Last winter I used a couple of the binder clips (small ones) to hold the visor out just a smidge. Enough to get air but not enough be cold. > Bill Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 06:24:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89AOASi003218; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:24:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89AOAjA003210; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:24:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 06:21:59 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <5.0.1.4.2.20020908214100.00a67810@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> In-Reply-To: <5.0.1.4.2.20020908214100.00a67810@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02090906215934.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sunday 08 September 2002 21:43, Dan Brown wrote: > Mark, Chuck -- outstanding job! Bike night was great. > > Really amazing turn out. Nice to meet people and put faces to the > email addresses. I second that. I didn't meet everyone but I did get to match some faces with addresses. > I think we surprised the CarPool people though. I > believe I heard someone say there were only 2 wait staff working. > I heard the waitress say it. I never saw anyone other than the waitress and the folks delivering the food. > Great to see all the bikes though! > There was a metric buttload of bikes out there (only a few standards though :-) Sorry I didn't get to say goodbye to everyone. Since I was behind another bike, I figured on walking around searching and saying goodbye but Keith was leaving and nice enough to move his bike for me. Thanks. > > The ride home was cool though. Glad I had my chaps. A couple of minor incidents though. 1. Coming down Glebe road in the right lane, I was approaching the road where Glebe turned into two lanes and I was in the wrong one. As I moved up, I expected to have to make a loop to get in the correct lane but the light turned green just as I got there so I squided into the front waving my apologies. (Jennthebiker; maybe that's another squid reference source.) 2. When traffic slowed at Lorton because of road construction, I took Lorton road to Rt 123. Lovely ride. Cool and no other cars up to the light at 123. Apparently that's a low magnetic or weight light. I saw no lines in the asphalt and the light wouldn't change for me. After about 2 minutes, an SUV came up behind me but stayed three car lengths back. I waved him/her forward but no movement. I waited until there was no traffic coming from either direction and walked the light (moved forward with my feet down). As the SUV moved forward and began to run the light, it changed and the other 10 cars behind the SUV got a green light. > -- > Resist or Serve Submit or die! -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 07:28:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89BSCSi003637; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:28:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89BS9aT003622; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 07:28:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7C86FE.F8296587@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 07:33:18 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dan Brown CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT References: <5.0.1.4.2.20020908214100.00a67810@bonaire.brauhausdc.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dan Brown wrote: > Mark, Chuck -- outstanding job! Bike night was great. ditto ditto! Good job, Mark & Chuck. Lots of bikes and folks and a lotta smiles. Ran into a couple former MSF students, good to see that they're out and riding in the real world. And I must concede that Jennthebiker is definately female. I'm not sure if I'd call her bike "cute", but it sure was clean, unlike my dusty beast. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 11:03:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89F3pSi005045; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:03:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89F3n6n005038; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:03:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020909150347.10048.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 08:03:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT To: Mark Kitchell , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20020906171000.896.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > OK PEOPLE > > I just got confirmation that parking is a GO. So get > your asses to Bike Night this Sunday, 6PM, CarPool. > > The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. shit.... sorry i missed this. i'm getting warm, fuzzy feelings thinking of that scene from "the cable guy" as i type.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 11:07:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89F7hSi005210; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:07:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89F7hn5005204; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:07:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005201c25812$99754410$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: "Chris Weaver" , References: <20020908232957.32703.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: VTR For Sale (new low price!) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:44:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Damn, wish I had the money, would love to move up to something like that. Scott 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Weaver" To: Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 7:29 PM Subject: VTR For Sale (new low price!) > I've decided to lower the price of the VTR to $4995 > (yeah it's another one of those dirty Madison Avenue > pricing tricks). I have also put together a quick and > dirty web page with photos of the bike and a list of > modifications: > > http://www.dccycles.com/vtrforsale.htm > > Please feel free to forward this URL to anyone you > know you may be interested. > > As Bartles and James would say, thank you for your > support. > > Chris Weaver > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 11:07:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89F7kSi005245; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:07:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89F7jUG005241; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:07:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005301c25812$99d71320$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: , , "DC Cycles" , References: <1DE5467E.65E3A190.1056E6D9@aol.com> Subject: Re: Bike Night Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:52:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Hello to all, sorry that I missed last night, but got stuck at the renaissance festival for too long. Will be out for Barnes and Noble night on Thursday if someone will tell me how to find the DC Cycles crew. Plan September 28 for the next Bike day at the Maryland Renaissance Festival. The Festival is located in Crownsville, MD just a bit away from Annapolis Mall. Should be a good time there with plenty of food, ale and shows. Also the Medieveal Baebes will be in town which promises things also. I am an actor there and can join the festivities for some time, have shows in others. If someone can get with me as to posting it on the web page would be appreciated. Scott 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 11:27:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89FRJSi005697; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:27:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89FRJr5005689; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:27:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Brad Faas" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:23:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Summit Point Message-ID: <3D7C84CE.17362.AA9199@localhost> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body A big congratulations is in order for Mr. Sean Jordan, who kicked my butt this weekend at Summit. And what a beautiful weekend it was.... Dammit Sean, next year when I'm back to full health...ah, whatever. Sean ran better than I ever have before, so I can't really blame his winning on my less-than-perfect physical condition. He would have beat me well anyway. I think Sean would've had a very good finish in Lightweight GP (maybe top 5??), but it turns out that bikes don't run well without fuel. :-) Anyone grab some photos? (Gary??) Brad From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 11:31:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89FVYSi005860; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:31:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89FVY4N005854; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:31:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020909153132.15243.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 08:31:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Bike Night To: "S. Russell" , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <005301c25812$99d71320$9865fea9@Godzilla> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "S. Russell" wrote: > Hello to all, sorry that I missed last night, but got > stuck at the > renaissance festival for too long. Will be out for > Barnes and Noble night > on Thursday if someone will tell me how to find the DC > Cycles crew. > > Plan September 28 for the next Bike day at the Maryland > Renaissance > Festival. The Festival is located in Crownsville, MD > just a bit away from > Annapolis Mall. Should be a good time there with plenty > of food, ale and > shows. Also the Medieveal Baebes will be in town which > promises things > also. > > I am an actor there and can join the festivities for some > time, have shows > in others. and my "the cable guy" nightmare continues!!.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 12:01:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89G1gSi006141; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:01:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89G1gnl006133; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:01:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <012e01c2581a$0a5b6130$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: "Brad Faas" , References: <3D7C84CE.17362.AA9199@localhost> Subject: Re: Summit Point Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:00:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 I have over 400 photos to process, and not only did I get a great shot of Sean racing, I got another of him after he ran out of fuel :-) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Faas" To: Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:23 AM Subject: Summit Point > A big congratulations is in order for Mr. Sean Jordan, who kicked > my butt this weekend at Summit. And what a beautiful weekend it > was.... > > Dammit Sean, next year when I'm back to full health...ah, > whatever. Sean ran better than I ever have before, so I can't really > blame his winning on my less-than-perfect physical condition. He > would have beat me well anyway. > > I think Sean would've had a very good finish in Lightweight GP > (maybe top 5??), but it turns out that bikes don't run well without > fuel. :-) > > Anyone grab some photos? (Gary??) > > Brad > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 12:08:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89G8DSi006326; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:08:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89G8Cgi006311; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:08:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <023401c2581b$5c9f24d0$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Subject: Super Superhawk for sale Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:10:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I am selling my Honda 996 VTR Superhawk. Modifications, upgrades, info. listed below: -1998 model -5900 miles -Traxxion Dynamics completely reworked front forks: upgraded springs, new Traxxion Dynamics "Action" valve. Finger adjustable pre-load "knobs". -New Penske 8900 series "Sport" shock, from Traxxion Dynamics. No external resevior, but it can be added later, otherwise completely adjustable. -New set (~500 miles) BT56SS tires -Sargant's "World" Seat with color matched passenger seat. -Two Brother's Carbon Fiber full exhaust system, stage 1 jet kitted to match. -Heli-bars -Two Brother's lower cowl. -Oil changed at 300 miles, 600 miles, 1200 miles, 3000 miles and 5000 miles. -Case of oil filters included (minus 1 or 2 that I recently put on) Needs to have the brake and clutch fluid replaced; I am willing to do this if it will help the sale. The bike has been ridden, but taken care of. It has never been down. Asking $5600 Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 12:34:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89GYFSi006604; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:34:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89GYEQh006598; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:34:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <015f01c2581f$8ee1fa40$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: <200209062300.g86N01ZT029638@dirty.meretrix.com> Subject: Trucks, bikes, cages Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:40:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 How is a trucker supposed to maintain adequate spacing on the highway when cages (and bikes) won't give adequate room when changing lanes. Yes, there are knucklehead truck drivers, but also plenty knucklehead cagers and bikers who cut in too close when overtaking trucks on the highway. Cages and bikes cutting in front of trucks are their own worst enemy. Here I'm speaking of mixing with long-haul truckers on the highway. There's no excuse for the idiot who ran over those teenagers. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 > > [Dave] And the thing with the barrelling big trucks is that they could strike a cage several cages behind you & still cause you trouble. The latest AAA hack job said that most truck accidents are caused by cagers. Horseshit. ALL tractor trailers, dumps, and similar large vehicles follow too close for conditions. 2 cage lengths won't do it. The cops need to start enforcing something ridiculous like a 10 cage lenth minimum interval between any large truck and any OTHER type of vehicle. > > Dave > > Dave > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 12:42:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89GghSi006794; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:42:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89GggTv006786; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:42:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020909122926.009fe150@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 12:42:56 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Bike Night & Summit Point In-Reply-To: <3D7C84CE.17362.AA9199@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hey Brad, don't forget that it took me two years to beat you back! Waking up Sunday morning, my wildest hope was that I would break a 1:30 (mid-pack pace in Novice lightweight classes at Summit). By the end of the day, I ended up running a 1:27.9 in the LW GP race! I wasn't even pushing myself, and could have gone faster, had I not run out of gas..... (I had two back-to-back races, on a borrowed bike. Wasn't sure how much fuel to put in....live and learn!) Special thanks to Steve Cark for letting me use his perfectly prepared SV650 and for lettming me crash in his palatial RV; I wouldn't have had such a great day without his help! Sorry I missed the Bike Night, but I was so worn out when I got home last night, I didn't have the energy left to ride out to Carpool. Kind of bummed, Chuck and Mark always always put together a great event, and it's nice to catch up with the old listers and meet the new ones. I hope to make the next one, though! Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 12:45:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89Gj3Si006837; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:45:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89Gj3dr006828; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:45:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C32B@wash58.acs.org> From: Jason Picton To: dc-cycles list Subject: RE: Trucks, bikes, cages Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:42:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That's why I like two different speed limits - one for trucks, and one for everything else - cars, bikes, etc. Ohio has this.. 55 MPH for trucks and either 65/70 MPH for cars.... It kept most of the trucks in the right lane, they were going about 65, but most cars were doing about 70-75, fast enough that everyone could get by em without any problem. Jason -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:40 PM To: dc-cycles list Subject: Trucks, bikes, cages How is a trucker supposed to maintain adequate spacing on the highway when cages (and bikes) won't give adequate room when changing lanes. Yes, there are knucklehead truck drivers, but also plenty knucklehead cagers and bikers who cut in too close when overtaking trucks on the highway. Cages and bikes cutting in front of trucks are their own worst enemy. Here I'm speaking of mixing with long-haul truckers on the highway. There's no excuse for the idiot who ran over those teenagers. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 > > [Dave] And the thing with the barrelling big trucks is that they could strike a cage several cages behind you & still cause you trouble. The latest AAA hack job said that most truck accidents are caused by cagers. Horseshit. ALL tractor trailers, dumps, and similar large vehicles follow too close for conditions. 2 cage lengths won't do it. The cops need to start enforcing something ridiculous like a 10 cage lenth minimum interval between any large truck and any OTHER type of vehicle. > > Dave > > Dave > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 12:51:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89GpnSi007111; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:51:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89Gpn3G007101; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:51:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <017701c25821$09e20e50$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: "Brad Faas" , References: <3D7C84CE.17362.AA9199@localhost> Subject: Re: Summit Point Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:50:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean1.jpg http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean2.jpg And be sure to get your official Sean Jordon paraphernalia! http://www.cafeshops.com/sjordon :-) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Faas" To: Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:23 AM Subject: Summit Point > A big congratulations is in order for Mr. Sean Jordan, who kicked > my butt this weekend at Summit. And what a beautiful weekend it > was.... > > Dammit Sean, next year when I'm back to full health...ah, > whatever. Sean ran better than I ever have before, so I can't really > blame his winning on my less-than-perfect physical condition. He > would have beat me well anyway. > > I think Sean would've had a very good finish in Lightweight GP > (maybe top 5??), but it turns out that bikes don't run well without > fuel. :-) > > Anyone grab some photos? (Gary??) > > Brad > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 12:57:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89GvESi007169; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:57:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89GvDEb007161; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:57:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <01fe01c25822$c31bb320$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Jason Picton" , "dc-cycles list" References: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C32B@wash58.acs.org> Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:02:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 This probably works on a flat highway, but when it gets to be rolling terrain the trucks are doing 45 up the hills and 75 down, like I-81, ugh. I guess my point is to see the road from the other road user's perspective. Too few cagers (and riders) do this. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Picton" To: "dc-cycles list" Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:42 PM Subject: RE: Trucks, bikes, cages > That's why I like two different speed limits - one for trucks, and one for > everything else - cars, bikes, etc. Ohio has this.. 55 MPH for trucks and > either 65/70 MPH for cars.... It kept most of the trucks in the right lane, > they were going about 65, but most cars were doing about 70-75, fast enough > that everyone could get by em without any problem. > > Jason > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:40 PM > To: dc-cycles list > Subject: Trucks, bikes, cages > > > How is a trucker supposed to maintain adequate spacing on the highway when > cages (and bikes) won't give adequate room when changing lanes. Yes, there > are knucklehead truck drivers, but also plenty knucklehead cagers > and bikers who cut in too close when overtaking trucks on the highway. > Cages and bikes cutting in front of trucks are their own worst enemy. Here > I'm speaking of mixing with long-haul truckers on the highway. There's no > excuse for the idiot who ran over those teenagers. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 > > > > [Dave] And the thing with the barrelling big trucks is that they could > strike a cage several cages behind you & still cause you trouble. The > latest AAA hack job said that most truck accidents are caused by cagers. > Horseshit. ALL tractor trailers, dumps, and similar large vehicles follow > too close for conditions. 2 cage lengths won't do it. The cops need to > start enforcing something ridiculous like a 10 cage lenth minimum interval > between any large truck and any OTHER type of vehicle. > > > > Dave > > > > Dave > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 12:59:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89GxnSi007316; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:59:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89Gxnr4007308; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:59:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 09:59:44 -0700 From: To: Danny Thompson Cc: "D.C. Cycles" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Super Superhawk for sale Sender: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 65.36.86.136 Ooooh ... Superhawk VTR wars between Chris and Danny. There'e gotta be a bargain in there somewhere. Let the carnage begin! %^) On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:10:06 -0400 Danny Thompson wrote: I am selling my Honda 996 VTR Superhawk. Modifications, upgrades, info. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 13:01:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89H19Si007370; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:01:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89H19aB007364; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:01:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 9 Sep 2002 17:01:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20020909170107.6345.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Paul asks: >How is a trucker supposed to maintain adequate spacing on the highway when >cages (and bikes) won't give adequate room when changing lanes. [Dave] uh... the same way we do it? yeah, they need more distance to stop, but c'mon, every trip I take on the beltway I either see a TT tailgating ( I mean crawling up some cages trunk ), or I'm a victim of it - and I am *NOT* by any stretch of the imagination a slow driver. We all get impatient around here, but maintaining control of the vehicle is the operator's responsibility, in cages, trucks & on bikes. If a truck rear ends someone, whether they were cut off or not, you have to investigate and find out if they were following too closely, as is often the case. >Yes, there >are knucklehead truck drivers, but also plenty knucklehead cagers >and bikers who cut in too close when overtaking trucks on the highway. [Dave] Oh yeah. no argument there. 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From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 13:08:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89H8OSi007758; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:08:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89H8Ks7007748; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:08:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 09:57:22 -0700 From: To: Tom Gimer Cc: Mark Kitchell , DC Cycles Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Sender: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 65.36.86.136 TG, Sorry you missed it too. No main event at last night's Bike Night. Lots of people showed up just to see/hear the two of us go at it. Once they found out there was no deathmatch, there were cries of "Refund!" and people leaving in droves. CP On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 08:03:47 -0700 (PDT) Tom Gimer wrote: --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > OK PEOPLE > > I just got confirmation that parking is a GO. So get > your asses to Bike Night this Sunday, 6PM, CarPool. > > The main event is a Chuck vs. Gimer deathmatch. shit.... sorry i missed this. i'm getting warm, fuzzy feelings thinking of that scene from "the cable guy" as i type.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 13:22:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89HMjSi008068; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:22:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89HMiWV008060; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:22:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Paul Wilson" Cc: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 13:22:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200209062300.g86N01ZT029638@dirty.meretrix.com> <015f01c2581f$8ee1fa40$bb82fea9@palladio1> In-Reply-To: <015f01c2581f$8ee1fa40$bb82fea9@palladio1> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g89HMhSi008048 If you have enough following distance from the vehicle in front of you, they usually pass way infront of such vehicle... ti's only when space is limited is when people "cut" in front... if a vehicle does cut, simple... maintain or reduce speed to allow the space cushion to get wider. Space cushion is a good thing, the more the better, and the whole "we can't have too much space cushion because someone will cut in front of us" thinking is very flawed. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 13:23:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89HNRSi008108; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:23:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89HNRov008104; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:23:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Jason Picton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 13:23:33 -0400 Message-ID: <88mpnucasms18dc0vibo2li9aegnqqaej5@4ax.com> References: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C32B@wash58.acs.org> In-Reply-To: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C32B@wash58.acs.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g89HNQSi008087 I would like for the fast lane to have a higher speed limit or for passing only. On Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:42:44 -0400 , Jason Picton wrote: >That's why I like two different speed limits - one for trucks, and one for >everything else - cars, bikes, etc. Ohio has this.. 55 MPH for trucks and >either 65/70 MPH for cars.... It kept most of the trucks in the right lane, >they were going about 65, but most cars were doing about 70-75, fast enough >that everyone could get by em without any problem. > >Jason > >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:40 PM >To: dc-cycles list >Subject: Trucks, bikes, cages > > >How is a trucker supposed to maintain adequate spacing on the highway when >cages (and bikes) won't give adequate room when changing lanes. Yes, there >are knucklehead truck drivers, but also plenty knucklehead cagers >and bikers who cut in too close when overtaking trucks on the highway. >Cages and bikes cutting in front of trucks are their own worst enemy. Here >I'm speaking of mixing with long-haul truckers on the highway. There's no >excuse for the idiot who ran over those teenagers. > >Paul in DC >95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 >> >> [Dave] And the thing with the barrelling big trucks is that they could >strike a cage several cages behind you & still cause you trouble. The >latest AAA hack job said that most truck accidents are caused by cagers. >Horseshit. ALL tractor trailers, dumps, and similar large vehicles follow >too close for conditions. 2 cage lengths won't do it. The cops need to >start enforcing something ridiculous like a 10 cage lenth minimum interval >between any large truck and any OTHER type of vehicle. >> >> Dave >> >> Dave >> From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 13:26:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89HQrSi008265; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:26:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89HQrWh008256; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:26:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Night BIKE NIGHT BIke NIGHT Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:24:41 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209091324413L.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 09 September 2002 12:57, cvkgpena@XXXXXX wrote: > TG, > > Sorry you missed it too. No main event at last night's Bike Night. Lots > of people showed up just to see/hear the two of us go at it. Once they > found out there was no deathmatch, there were cries of "Refund!" and people > leaving in droves. > Is that what they were? I was told they were Suzuki's but I've never heard of a Suzuki "Drove". Or is that "Drone" :-) > CP > Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 13:45:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89HjASi008630; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:45:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89HjAmn008622; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:45:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020909174508.29765.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:45:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages To: Motor PsychoL Danny , Paul Wilson Cc: dc-cycles list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Has anyone ever thought about this since the topic of space cushion's/following distances has come up; Since motorcycles can stop in a much shorter distance than any car or truck, do you think that there should be a law implemented for cars/truck to put a very large following distance to a bike? The only reason I ask is that if you're on 495 going 65/70 mph (or the posted 55) and there is a car that's one car lenght behind you and you hit the brakes in a panic stop, what are the chances of that car not hitting you? I'm just curious, I never really thought about this until I started reading all of these posts. rgds, Nick --- Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > If you have enough following distance from the > vehicle in front of > you, they usually pass way infront of such > vehicle... ti's only > when space is limited is when people "cut" in > front... > > if a vehicle does cut, simple... maintain or > reduce speed to allow > the space cushion to get wider. > > Space cushion is a good thing, the more the better, > and the whole "we > can't have too much space cushion because someone > will cut in front of > us" thinking is very flawed. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 13:53:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89Hr5Si008817; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:53:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89Hr5RB008807; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 13:53:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020909135108.0238ead0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 13:53:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages In-Reply-To: <20020909174508.29765.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:45 PM 9/9/2002, Nicholas Thompson wrote: >Has anyone ever thought about this since the topic of >space cushion's/following distances has come up; >Since motorcycles can stop in a much shorter distance >than any car or truck I'll defer to Gimer, but it really isn't time for the car vs. bike stopping distance thread. I suggest that instead - you should head over to http://www.fark.com/ and peruse some of the many fine Photoshop examples of good time wasters. AZ Moto came through for me and expressed my from D220. They kick ass. Should be sitting on my porch when I get home. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 14:00:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89I0uSi008999; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:00:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89I0uHg008991; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:00:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020909140004.023be3c8@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:00:53 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020909135108.0238ead0@mail.troutman.org> References: <20020909174508.29765.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:53 PM 9/9/2002, Troutman wrote: >expressed my from D220 express shipped my front D220 Damn spell checker ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 14:04:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89I4TSi009062; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:04:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89I4TWr009057; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:04:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:01:26 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: fj1100@XXXXXX, mcracer980@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Summit Point Message-ID: <17D94E4D.46A2EEB3.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OK. Now I have seen everything. Sean has his own racing crap for sale? Geesssshhhhhh....what's this world coming too? ;-) Scooter In a message dated Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:50:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, fj1100@XXXXXX writes: > > > http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean1.jpg > http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean2.jpg > > And be sure to get your official Sean Jordon paraphernalia! > > http://www.cafeshops.com/sjordon > > :-) > > > Gary > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Faas" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:23 AM > Subject: Summit Point > > > > A big congratulations is in order for Mr. Sean Jordan, who kicked > > my butt this weekend at Summit. And what a beautiful weekend it > > was.... > > > > Dammit Sean, next year when I'm back to full health...ah, > > whatever. Sean ran better than I ever have before, so I can't really > > blame his winning on my less-than-perfect physical condition. He > > would have beat me well anyway. > > > > I think Sean would've had a very good finish in Lightweight GP > > (maybe top 5??), but it turns out that bikes don't run > well without > > fuel. :-) > > > > Anyone grab some photos? (Gary??) > > > > Brad > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 14:18:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89IIvSi009391; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:18:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89IIvv9009381; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:18:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7CE759.7C6481C6@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:24:26 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicholas Thompson CC: Motor PsychoL Danny , Paul Wilson , dc-cycles list Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages References: <20020909174508.29765.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Has anyone ever thought about this since the topic of > space cushion's/following distances has come up; > Since motorcycles can stop in a much shorter distance > than any car or truck, do you think that there should > be a law implemented for cars/truck to put a very > large following distance to a bike? The only reason I > ask is that if you're on 495 going 65/70 mph (or the > posted 55) and there is a car that's one car lenght > behind you and you hit the brakes in a panic stop, > what are the chances of that car not hitting you? I'm > just curious, I never really thought about this until > I started reading all of these posts. > Motorcycles can stop in less distance than *any* car or truck? Well, maybe a heavily laden TT rig, but do not delude yourself into thinking an M/C can stop faster than a car. It isn't true. Ideal stop distance is about the same, and all it takes in a car is a heavy foot to reach ideal. To get 99% effective stop on a bike takes training, practice, and skill. And that's on an *idel* rpoad surface. Make it wet and cars will stop way faster and upright. As for part two of your paragraph. One car lentgh isn't enough for any style vehicle. Vehicle in front jumps the brakes and tailgating vehicle will be sodomizing vehicle one before the driver even applys the brakes. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 14:23:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89INVSi009652; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:23:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89INVFN009644; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:23:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'Carl Schelin'" , "'Motor PsychoL Danny'" Cc: "'DC-Cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Shrines Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:23:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Didn't Ohio used to paint X's on the highway marking the spots were accidents occurred and people died? Do they still do that? gb "Adam Wah" From: Subject: Re: Cc: Out in Montana they have these little crosses where people have died put up by some group. It's very strange and at some places there are a half-dozen or so. Most of the time there are only one or two. Carl At 04:38 AM 9/7/02 -0400, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: >hmm road side shrines as markers of "someone crashed on t his spot" >" you could too... be careful" is nto exactly a bad idea... say put >a blade from a picket fence everywhere someone crashes... and you >could see how serious some spots are. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 14:32:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89IWgSi009887; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:32:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89IWfC0009879; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:32:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <37.2d15c03b.2aae4343@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:32:35 EDT Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/9/2002 1:45:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sfdaytona@XXXXXX writes: > Since motorcycles can stop in a much shorter distance > than any car or truck, Once unquestionably true, unfortunately it is no longer quite so clear. When motorcycles had disk brakes and cars just had drums it was true. Now with cars having 4 wheel disks and very good antilock brakes it may not be true at all. One magazine (No I do not remember which or when) did a rather un-scientific test using one rider who rode (as I recall) several bikes including a sport bike and one with antilocks and an antilock equipped car. The car stopped faster in every case _including_ against an antilock bike. One thing is absolutely clear, granny old fart in her rolling luxury liner can by the simple expedient of stomping on the brakes, out stop any beginner and _may_ be able to out stop any of us. Damn scary. As in all other things, WATCH YOUR ASS! John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 14:35:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89IZFSi009933; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:35:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89IZFRt009927; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:35:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7CEB21.C5E38ED@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:40:34 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bruhl, George LT" CC: "'Carl Schelin'" , "'Motor PsychoL Danny'" , "'DC-Cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Shrines References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Bruhl, George LT" wrote: > Didn't Ohio used to paint X's on the highway marking the spots were > accidents occurred and people died? > Do they still do that? > > gb Yep, Ohio (Oh Hell It's Ohio) used X's because most of the citizens are illiterate. Bill (ducking) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 14:41:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89IfJSi010230; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:41:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89IfJVZ010221; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:41:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters Subject: Re: Shrines Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:39:08 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <3D7CEB21.C5E38ED@patriot.net> In-Reply-To: <3D7CEB21.C5E38ED@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209091438573S.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX On Monday 09 September 2002 14:40, William J. Huson wrote: > "Bruhl, George LT" wrote: > > Didn't Ohio used to paint X's on the highway marking the spots were > > accidents occurred and people died? > > Do they still do that? > > > > gb > > Yep, Ohio (Oh Hell It's Ohio) used X's because most of the citizens are > illiterate. > I thought that was South Carolina where I saw a billboard using "their" incorrectly. Aren't they the lowest in the nation? > Bill (ducking) Carl (and running) -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 14:43:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89IhHSi010396; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:43:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89IhHeo010388; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:43:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <01f001c25830$9c2ca040$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: , "Brad Faas" , References: <17D94E4D.46A2EEB3.0C9D3659@aol.com> Subject: Re: Summit Point Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:42:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 That was a little ditty on my part. He had no idea :-) Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Summit Point > OK. Now I have seen everything. Sean has his own racing crap for sale? Geesssshhhhhh....what's this world coming too? ;-) > > Scooter > > In a message dated Mon, 9 Sep 2002 11:50:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, fj1100@XXXXXX writes: > > > > > > > http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean1.jpg > > http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean2.jpg > > > > And be sure to get your official Sean Jordon paraphernalia! > > > > http://www.cafeshops.com/sjordon > > > > :-) > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brad Faas" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 11:23 AM > > Subject: Summit Point > > > > > > > A big congratulations is in order for Mr. Sean Jordan, who kicked > > > my butt this weekend at Summit. And what a beautiful weekend it > > > was.... > > > > > > Dammit Sean, next year when I'm back to full health...ah, > > > whatever. Sean ran better than I ever have before, so I can't really > > > blame his winning on my less-than-perfect physical condition. He > > > would have beat me well anyway. > > > > > > I think Sean would've had a very good finish in Lightweight GP > > > (maybe top 5??), but it turns out that bikes don't run > > well without > > > fuel. :-) > > > > > > Anyone grab some photos? (Gary??) > > > > > > Brad > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 14:51:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89IpESi010707; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:51:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89IpEY0010697; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:51:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:51:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20020909174508.29765.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020909135108.0238ead0@mail.troutman.org> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020909135108.0238ead0@mail.troutman.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g89IpDSi010680 So is it true they stop about the same distance? you've got what 4 times the weight, but 4 tires how does that work out? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 15:24:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89JOASi011043; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:24:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89JO11u011019; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:24:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020909192358.92700.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:23:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Summit Point To: Gary Foreman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <017701c25821$09e20e50$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Gary Foreman wrote: > http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean1.jpg > http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean2.jpg > > And be sure to get your official Sean Jordon > paraphernalia! > > http://www.cafeshops.com/sjordon damn.... i was really hoping to find some sean jordan disposable undergarments. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 15:28:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89JSWSi011410; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:28:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89JSWZ8011402; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:28:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <009101c25837$d86a83e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Tom Gimer" , References: <20020909192358.92700.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Summit Point Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:33:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 What's next: a full line of Dick E. Anker, Esq. products? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" > > > > And be sure to get your official Sean Jordon > > paraphernalia! > > > > http://www.cafeshops.com/sjordon > > damn.... i was really hoping to find some sean jordan > disposable undergarments. > -- > tg From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 15:28:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89JStSi011450; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:28:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89JStDd011443; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:28:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <024101c25836$e527bc20$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> From: "Gary Foreman" To: "Tom Gimer" , References: <20020909192358.92700.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Summit Point Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:26:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 I'm sure he had some underwear to toss out when he ran out of fuel :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" To: "Gary Foreman" ; Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Summit Point > --- Gary Foreman wrote: > > http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean1.jpg > > http://www.gwfweb.com/cycles/sean2.jpg > > > > And be sure to get your official Sean Jordon > > paraphernalia! > > > > http://www.cafeshops.com/sjordon > > damn.... i was really hoping to find some sean jordan > disposable undergarments. > > > > > -- > tg > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 15:52:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89JqBSi011849; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:52:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89JqBbh011840; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:52:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020909195209.98907.qmail@web20709.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 12:52:09 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Summit Point To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020909192358.92700.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii you mean there isn't a reserve switch underneath the tank? When mine runs out of gas you have a few seconds to realize it. Just keep leaning left and I can limp home normally. Or you can be like Keener and have his gas cap come flying off and about hit me in the face shield. *grin* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 15:52:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89JqpSi011878; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:52:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89Jqp5t011873; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:52:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 12:52:48 -0700 From: " Jeff Kopchik" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: jkop@XXXXXX Subject: [No Subject] Sender: jkop@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 167.176.6.8 Everyone, I'm a new rider. Passed the MSF course in May and bought a used '92 Honda Nighthawk 750. I've been monitoring this discussion group since then. I'm married with a 5 year old son, so I generally can't do really long rides. But, I am looking for people who may be interested in shorter (2-3 hour RT) rides in MD beginning and ending around Bethesda. I usually ride on Saturday or Sunday mornings. Patti showed me the way to Sugarloaf a couple of weeks ago and I really enjoyed the ride. Let me know if you are interested. Jeff From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 16:22:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89KMsSi012337; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:22:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89KMmY3012322; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:22:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <018701c2583e$49e5d190$776c52a4@rclibB2YKR01> From: "Patti Rodgers" To: Subject: rechroming? Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:20:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Hi everyone, What kind of shop would re-chrome things like wheels and fenders? I tried a couple of local bike shops but could not find the right place. Now that the innards of my BSA are *almost* complete, I have to start figuring out how to make the outside real pretty. I have a lot of chrome that needs to be re-chromed: the tank, wheels, fenders, pipes, etc. Thanks! -patti From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 17:31:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89LVYSi012871; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:31:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89LVDMZ012856; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 17:31:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.6.0.20020909173041.009f8ec0@mail.mac.com> X-Sender: eternity23@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 17:31:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Summit Point In-Reply-To: <20020909192358.92700.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> References: <017701c25821$09e20e50$c000a8c0@C4ZJ911> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Gimer wrote: >damn.... i was really hoping to find some sean jordan >disposable undergarments. Let me guess....with my picture strategically located on the INSIDE of the garment, right? Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 18:07:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89M70Si013186; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:07:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89M7038013179; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:07:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:11:03 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: State Farm and Sportbikes??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is a rumor going on the SBN site that State Farm will no longer issue sportbike policies. Anyone heard anything? Dan -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 18:15:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89MFESi013373; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:15:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89MF9eY013363; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:15:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020909221507.28392.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 15:15:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Summit Point To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.6.0.20020909173041.009f8ec0@mail.mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Sean Jordan wrote: > Gimer wrote: > > >damn.... i was really hoping to find some sean jordan > >disposable undergarments. > > Let me guess....with my picture strategically located on > the INSIDE of the garment, right? why YES.... provided they're available. if not, would you be so kind as to provide me with a few laminated, wallet-sized self-portraits and some scotch tape? tia -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 18:33:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89MXGSi013562; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:33:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89MXGsB013552; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:33:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" To: "DC Cycles List \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: State Farm and Sportbikes??? Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:33:49 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c25851$0f193260$b382c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Dan interrupted the Gimer-Jordan fun fest with: There is a rumor going on the SBN site that State Farm will no longer issue sportbike policies. Anyone heard anything? [Dave] Dude. Don't even suggest it. It's already bad enough getting sport bike insurance, without State Farm, it will be outrageous. I got a new, standalone M/C policy as recent as March w/ SF... that's as much as I know on the matter... I hope it's not true. Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 18:52:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89MqYSi013875; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:52:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89MqY32013869; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:52:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Brad Faas" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, dan Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 18:29:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: State Farm and Sportbikes??? Message-ID: <3D7CE89E.24705.23077A2@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Hmmm. Never knew State Farm even classified bikes as such. 'Least, they never asked me. Just asked for manufacturer and engine size. I paid MORE for my SV650 (~64hp) than I did for my CBR600 F4 (~90hp, and way more "sporty"). Go figure. Brad On 9 Sep 2002 at 18:11, dan wrote: > There is a rumor going on the SBN site that State Farm will no longer > issue sportbike policies. Anyone heard anything? > > Dan > > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 19:27:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89NRDSi014424; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:27:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89NRCoT014417; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:27:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:40:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler X-X-Sender: ph@XXXXXX To: Motor PsychoL Danny cc: Troutman , Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop-Detect: 1 Vehicle weight, contact patch area, etc. tend to be canceled out in the equations. To the first order the maximum possible (friction braking) deceleration is only proportional to the coeffecient of friction, e.g. rubber on road. Lots of real-world things complicate this, not the least of which include gunk on the road, the complexity of the transition between static (non skidding) and dynamic (skidding) friction, operator skill, and so on. Sorry if this is TMI. ;-) -ph On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > So is it true they stop about the same distance? > > you've got what 4 times the weight, but 4 tires > > how does that work out? > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 19:47:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89NlMSi014644; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:47:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89NlMlf014634; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:47:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7D3454.690CDAB7@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:52:52 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Motor PsychoL Danny CC: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Trucks, bikes, cages References: <20020909174508.29765.qmail@web12301.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020909135108.0238ead0@mail.troutman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > So is it true they stop about the same distance? > > you've got what 4 times the weight, but 4 tires > > how does that work out? Simple physics, dude. Measure the tire contact patch on your scoot and then do a car tire. Mucho bigger, yes? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 19:53:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89NrCSi014710; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:53:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89NrBxg014704; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:53:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7D35B1.EEC29EAD@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:58:42 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patti Rodgers CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: rechroming? References: <018701c2583e$49e5d190$776c52a4@rclibB2YKR01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patti Rodgers wrote: > Hi everyone, > > What kind of shop would re-chrome things like wheels and fenders? I tried a > couple of local bike shops but could not find the right place. Now that the > innards of my BSA are *almost* complete, I have to start figuring out how to > make the outside real pretty. I have a lot of chrome that needs to be > re-chromed: the tank, wheels, fenders, pipes, etc. > > Thanks! > > -patti Ready to cash in all your CDs? Chroming is expensive if done right. Use to a place in Baltimore, probably shut down by the EPA (chroming is a dirty business). I believe Pennsylvania has a couple shops, and a neighbor who does vintage hot rods sent some stuff to Tennessee. I'd check the Brit bike bulletin boards and chats to get a line on a good shop. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 19:53:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g89NrWSi014741; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:53:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g89NrWj0014736; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 19:53:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: R6 owners group? Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:53:41 -0400 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g89NrUSi014724 can someone provide the link tothe R6 owners message club/group/list. A friend of mine has the 2001 r6 with the LED brake lights, and wants to know if there is a cheap way to integrate the brake and turn signals. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 20:00:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A00ASi015119; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:00:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A00AXo015114; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:00:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7D3753.C40493B0@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 20:05:39 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brad Faas CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, dan Subject: Re: State Farm and Sportbikes??? References: <3D7CE89E.24705.23077A2@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, State farm did discriminate back in the late `80s. My son got a Yamahonker FZ sumpin and our agent said he had to SEE it. Son rode it up there and Agent man scans a sheet in his paw - pics of various style bikes. He sez "uh-oh" realizing the bike was a crotch rocket, but then he sez it's a go! At the time SF wouldn't insure any crotch rocket with more'n 750cc, and the kid's was a 700cc. Hmmm... ??? Dang thing would bust 150 without even breathing hard. Don't know what the SF policy is now, they insured my dog-slow Harley. Bill Brad Faas wrote: > Hmmm. Never knew State Farm even classified bikes as such. > 'Least, they never asked me. Just asked for manufacturer and > engine size. I paid MORE for my SV650 (~64hp) than I did for my > CBR600 F4 (~90hp, and way more "sporty"). > > Go figure. > > Brad > > On 9 Sep 2002 at 18:11, dan wrote: > > > There is a rumor going on the SBN site that State Farm will no longer > > issue sportbike policies. Anyone heard anything? > > > > Dan > > > > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 20:02:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A02cSi015282; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:02:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A02aYZ015267; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:02:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 16:59:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: "DC Cycles List (E-mail)" Subject: RE: State Farm and Sportbikes??? In-Reply-To: <000401c25851$0f193260$b382c0cf@nih.gov> Message-ID: <20020909165712.V83023-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Dave Yates wrote: > Dan interrupted the Gimer-Jordan fun fest with: > > There is a rumor going on the SBN site that State Farm will no longer > issue sportbike policies. Anyone heard anything? > > [Dave] Dude. Don't even suggest it. It's already bad enough getting > sport bike insurance, without State Farm, it will be outrageous. I > got a new, standalone M/C policy as recent as March w/ SF... that's as > much as I know on the matter... I hope it's not true. When shopping for Boosa insurance in Feb I could not get a reasonable quote from SF for a stand alone policy. I ended up temporarily going with Allstate, which had my all my cars, house and car trailer ($1200/year for liability and comp :-\). My Allstate agent ended up finding a place called Motorcycle Services that hooked me for $796/year for liability, comp and coll as a stand alone policy. Married, 30, multi vehicle discount ;-), 1 ticket, no accidents. Places like Progressive wanted 3,000+yr :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 20:35:09 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A0Z9Si015702; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:35:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A0Z9Am015698; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:35:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <009501c25893$c1cefd80$f056f7a5@de3bw> Reply-To: "cplvfr" From: "cplvfr" To: Subject: '01 YZF600R carb synchronizing Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:31:53 -1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Anybody know how? My sister's fiance and I have his bike apart and have found there are no apparent places to connect a vacuum gauge. WTF? Thanks Travis '01 SV650S '95 RC36 '91 GS500E '85 VF500F http://www.angelfire.com/extreme3/svbadguy From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 21:06:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A16nSi016141; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:06:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A16moG016131; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:06:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7D46F1.A57C9B4E@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 21:12:17 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cplvfr CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: '01 YZF600R carb synchronizing References: <009501c25893$c1cefd80$f056f7a5@de3bw> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cplvfr wrote: > Anybody know how? My sister's fiance and I have his bike apart and have > found there are no apparent places to connect a vacuum gauge. WTF? > > Thanks Good grief! You took an `01 bike apart? Hint, motor run, why screw with it. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 21:45:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A1jvSi016455; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:45:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A1jtOx016440; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:45:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Lisa Goddard" To: "dccycles" Subject: trucks hitting bikers Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:44:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 12:40 PM To: dc-cycles list Subject: Trucks, bikes, cages How is a trucker supposed to maintain adequate spacing on the highway when cages (and bikes) won't give adequate room when changing lanes. (snip) Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 > > [Dave] And the thing with the barrelling big trucks is that they could strike a cage several cages behind you & still cause you trouble. (snip) > > Dave There's a woman in my riding group who was sitting at a stop light. After the Honda Accord behind her came to a complete stop she then shifted to neutral for the rest of the light cycle. A dump truck slammed in the the Accord, he had made no attempt to stop. Sent her and her Seca II in to the intersection. Luckily she was wearing a good jacket that helped her when she hit pavement. She was also lucky that the cross traffic didn't run her over. I don't know the current status of the case but I think it is going to drag on for quite a while. Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 22:03:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A23PSi016801; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:03:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A23P21016795; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:03:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" To: "'dccycles'" Subject: RE: trucks hitting bikers Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 21:57:59 -0400 Message-ID: <001301c2586d$800843a0$b382c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Lisa Lamented: There's a woman in my riding group who was sitting at a stop light. After the Honda Accord behind her came to a complete stop she then shifted to neutral for the rest of the light cycle. A dump truck slammed in the the Accord, he had made no attempt to stop. Sent her and her Seca II in to the intersection. Luckily she was wearing a good jacket that helped her when she hit pavement. She was also lucky that the cross traffic didn't run her over. I don't know the current status of the case but I think it is going to drag on for quite a while. [Dave] There's a perfectly good case for: a) The return of the Vigilance Committees b) Justifiable assault on said truck driver to effect detainment c) Upon request of at least 3 witnesses, officers should be able to dispense 'wood shampoos' d) "honest officer, the driver sustained the broken jaw, eye socket & missing teeth falling out of the cab. I was just helping him up" e) All of the above. Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 22:17:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A2HGSi017012; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:17:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A2HFll017002; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:17:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00f801c2586f$fbe7c5c0$7d692c42@D7XFG711> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Dave Yates" , "'dccycles'" References: <001301c2586d$800843a0$b382c0cf@nih.gov> Subject: Re: trucks hitting bikers Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:15:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 State laws are generally pretty weak when it comes to those who kill or maim people in traffic accidents. Unless the state can prove drunkenness or other factors that amount to "depraved indifference" (I believe that's the standard for manslaughter in many states) these cases usually get written off as "schuss happens" and driver gets a slap on the wrist. Paul in DC 95 VFR - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Yates" To: "'dccycles'" Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:57 PM Subject: RE: trucks hitting bikers > Lisa Lamented: > > There's a woman in my riding group who was sitting at a stop light. > After > the Honda Accord behind her came to a complete stop she then shifted to > neutral for the rest of the light cycle. A dump truck slammed ... > > [Dave] There's a perfectly good case for: > a) The return of the Vigilance Committees > b) Justifiable assault on said truck driver to effect detainment > c) Upon request of at least 3 witnesses, officers should be able to > dispense 'wood shampoos' > d) "honest officer, the driver sustained the broken jaw, eye socket & > missing teeth falling out of the cab. I was just helping him up" > e) All of the above. > > Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 22:21:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A2LVSi017171; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:21:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A2LV2Q017161; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:21:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "William J. Huson" Cc: cplvfr , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: '01 YZF600R carb synchronizing Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 22:21:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <009501c25893$c1cefd80$f056f7a5@de3bw> <3D7D46F1.A57C9B4E@patriot.net> In-Reply-To: <3D7D46F1.A57C9B4E@patriot.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8A2LUSi017149 No kidding. If it stops running right, return for warranty service. On Mon, 09 Sep 2002 21:12:17 -0400, "William J. Huson" wrote: >cplvfr wrote: > >> Anybody know how? My sister's fiance and I have his bike apart and have >> found there are no apparent places to connect a vacuum gauge. WTF? >> >> Thanks > >Good grief! You took an `01 bike apart? Hint, motor run, why screw with >it. > >Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 22:31:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A2V6Si017345; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:31:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A2V66d017335; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:31:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Dave Yates" Cc: "'dccycles'" Subject: Re: trucks hitting bikers Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 22:31:17 -0400 Message-ID: References: <001301c2586d$800843a0$b382c0cf@nih.gov> In-Reply-To: <001301c2586d$800843a0$b382c0cf@nih.gov> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8A2V5Si017318 What if something went wrong with the truck? you beat the SH&T out of the guy who's trying to feed his family just because his luck is as bad as everyone elses and it makes you feel better? atleast wait for him to say something stupid like "I spilled my coffee and wasn't paying attention" or "sorry I just been driving so long i got drousy and" Now if the accident is a result of him being drunk or stupid, I'm all for cleaning the gene pool by 1> mousalini hanging 2> free way over pass bounce testing 3> cinderblock floatation tester 4> fireworks display of why kids shouldn't play with fireworks (you know stuff where he doesn't die at your hands, but dies as a result.. kind of like.. if he was meant to live, a miracle woulda happened) or use him to test drugs, instead of animals. Why test drugs on animals when we can test it on the lower life form we call SCUM and it's got closer genetical makeup. Danny From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Sep 9 23:41:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A3fYSi017784; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:41:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A3fYkv017774; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:41:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020910034132.55338.qmail@web20703.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: OT: jobs for IT security people To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Granted I haven't landed my fish as yet but I've got a recruiter who has a goodly number of leads and has slots that need filling. If you have a clearance (even a Secret) he would love to talk to you. Contact me off-list. (and no I don't get a commission but hmm, maybe I'll ask him about that. heh!) __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 00:48:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A4mOSi018201; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:48:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A4mNWD018191; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:48:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <3f.114b4726.2aaed38d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:48:13 EDT Subject: bike night To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 hi :) lots to say -- surprise surprise! ill just send different emails so they aren't so long! lets start with bike night. chuck and mark -- please do reconsider organizing another one! if you let people know you need help im sure you'd get some volunteers? i tried to introduce myself to as many people as possible. did i miss anyone? (i even tried to introduce myself to non-dc-cycle people! -- of course they were attractive young men w/o wedding rings but no one slipped me their email address! -- they must not of realized that i was the one driving the purple honda.) since im relatively new to the list (although most are completely aware of my existence!), im wondering if we have cager nights in the winter? oh wait --- you guys ride your bikes year round!? how about a bike/cager night? the non-street/racer only bikers could join us too and not feel left out because they're driving in a cage rather than on a bike. to be continued :) jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 00:50:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A4oYSi018248; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:50:34 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A4oXrf018241; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:50:33 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <169.137ba9b4.2aaed40c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:50:20 EDT Subject: trip to pa To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 greetings :) wayne wondered about alternate routes to western pa. no time to figure it out on this trip! i woke up late saturday but still made it to the poker run from my apartment in 3 hours and 45 minutes. i planned it well enough that i only had to stop once to get gas! i made a suggestion to my stepdad about the poker run. how about instead of going from bar to bar to bar --- make it a progressive dinner run. do you guys know what a progressive dinner is? my stepdads response was something to the effect of 'go ahead. get all of you girl bikers together and have a progressive dinner. maybe you can even knit at each stop?' smartbutt! i thought it was a great idea! there were about 140 bikes. i didn't do so well at the poker part but many were impressed that i drove 240 miles to ride in the 100 mile poker run! the trip back to baltimore was a bit chilly! i left at 5am to return for church in baltimore. after 30 miles i put on all of the clothes that i could from in my overnight bag and i was still froze! after another 30 miles, i fueled my body up with some hot chocolate. someone mentioned that it was in the 40s!! i finally hit breezewood about 7:15am or so. thats when i decided to give up on the idea of making it to church in time. i learned that if you pick a back table of a mcdonalds, you can nap for at least an hour before someone slams their tray on the top of the nearest trash can! after that, i had a beautiful morning ride back. definitely time to get some warm riding clothes! ill figure out an alternate way next time :) jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 00:52:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A4q3Si018401; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:52:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A4q3Qw018393; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:52:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:51:51 EDT Subject: guitar transporting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 now for guitar transporting ---- even tho i didn't make it back to church in time, i still took my guitar over sunday so i wouldn't have to try riding with it in rather heavy traffic when i went over today for practice. i strapped the guitar over my shoulder and head. i only have one strap compared to the backpack style bags. i started to feel the resistance on it about 45-50 mph. brought it home with me tonight on the bike again without any problems. many thanks to all of your suggestions! :) many of you even play the guitar. i have an extremely old one (however i don't think itd be considered 'vintage'!) and a 6 string acoustic/electric ibanez. how about a bike night / guitar jammin session? :) we'd have to leave a little early to meet up since we can only go about 45-55 mph! more to come... jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 00:58:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8A4w9Si018894; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:58:09 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8A4w98G018883; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:58:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1ad.82839ce.2aaed5d6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 00:57:58 EDT Subject: the leak... etc. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 now for the leak: i washed my bike very thoroughly on sunday afternoon. the leak was already showing after going about 70 miles or so to run some errands and then to drive to carpool. going with the opinion of those who have looked at the bike, i agree that its probably not the clutch cable leaking. on thursday, im going to go up to a honda dealer in hanover (not the dealer i bought the bike from) and have a mechanic give me his/her professional opinion. that has been the recommendation of most -- its covered under warrantee. if they need it for multiple days, they can keep it when im in europe for two weeks in october! exactly 3 more weeks -- im sure ill be missed! i feel like ive posted like danny now --- pages and pages of stuff that no one really wants to read but we get sucked in just to see what's being said! danny --- i don't believe i met you at bike night? tg --- you were definitely missed! aki -- were you there? maybe next time! john aka penguinbiker? paul in dc? it might be my fault -- i might have experienced technical difficulties associating real names and faces with email addresses. who all is planning on going to the Ren Festival on the 28th? even though im techinically still a newbie since i just started riding this summer and purchased by bike at the end of june, i should turn over 4400 miles tomorrow. woohoo! i think next summer id love to take a camping ride through the new england states. *gets all dreamy* thats all for a now.. jtb 2002 purple monster new balance sneakers brown sketcher sandals From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 08:41:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8ACfrSi021625; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:41:53 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8ACforS021615; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:41:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7DE9CF.359A68E9@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:47:11 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: The Great Trailer Project... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The steel has been delivared, the first cuts made, and I'm on my way to building an M/C trailer. Yeah, yeah, you can buy a Kendall for mega-bucks, or convert a garden trailer, but I've built several custom trailers before to carry multiple outboard race boats and one a dude used to haul a pile of canoes/kayays, and sculls. Besides, I like to abuse myself by trying out ideas. This trailer will haul one bike centered, or two bikes, or maybe even three naked bikes! My main ride is a heavy beast, so loading it was a consideration. A squat trailer (designs exist) involves to many moving mechanical things, more parts to jam or fail. A ramp, yes, but those flip-up garden trailer ramps are butt-ugly. So my plan is a slide-out ramp! A long slide out ramp so my ol' bod doesn't strain a nut pushing The Beast on the trailer. The usage plan is family trips. The usual destinations are the Outer Banks and Chatanooga TN. Now we can travel in one vehicle. And if the weather turns to crap I don't have to freeze my skinny ass off on the trip there or home, like I have two years running on the way back from NC in Oct. Hey, I'm older than dirt, I'm entitled to wimp out on occasion! Figure a few weeks and y`all can add my name to the rescue your bike list. One trailer w/tie-downs. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 08:48:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8ACmcSi021899; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:48:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8ACmcq2021891; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 08:48:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 10 Sep 2002 12:48:36 -0000 Message-ID: <20020910124836.7016.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: trucks hitting bikers X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) Danny naively asks: >What if something went wrong with the truck? you beat the SH&T out of >the guy who's trying to feed his family just because his luck is as >bad as everyone elses and it makes you feel better? [Dave] Yup. >atleast wait for him to say something stupid like "I spilled my coffee >and wasn't paying attention" or "sorry I just been driving so long i >got drousy and" [Dave] Those excuses play if he plows down my fence, or mailbox, but when he plows into the back of my moms car, or my Wife's SUV, I'd empty my savings to pay a cop to issue an up close & personal intro to a PR-24. >Now if the accident is a result of him being drunk or stupid, I'm all >for cleaning the gene pool by >1> mousalini hanging >2> free way over pass bounce testing >3> cinderblock floatation tester >4> fireworks display of why kids shouldn't play with fireworks >(you know stuff where he doesn't die at your hands, but dies as a >result.. kind of like.. if he was meant to live, a miracle woulda >happened) [Dave] Yup, I saw them, they were trying to help him up, but he kept falling down... >or use him to test drugs, instead of animals. Why test drugs on >animals when we can test it on the lower life form we call SCUM and >it's got closer genetical makeup. [Dave] In all seriousness, don't drive the vehicle if it's not in good working order. often forgotten fact: more people are killed by automobiles (including motorcycles) than are killed by firearms here in America... Anyway, School has started, and I've noticed my 10 mile commute takes at least 10 minutes longer each way. NoVa traffic is pretty heavy, but I didn't realize school had that much effect until this last week. Longer lines at every light. Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 09:03:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AD3NSi022136; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:03:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AD3NAO022129; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:03:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020910130320.45328.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 06:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: the leak... etc. To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <1ad.82839ce.2aaed5d6@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > danny --- i don't believe i met you at bike night? tg > --- you were definitely missed! jtb, you've uncovered my secret. i've found that i have the best odds of being missed when i fail to show up. -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 09:15:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8ADFMSi022338; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:15:22 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8ADFKCg022328; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:15:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020910131518.47857.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 06:15:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: more cage help: tires To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii anybody have an opinion as to the best tire choice of the following bunch?..... -bridgestone potenza re92 -pirelli p7000 supersport -goodyear eagle rs-a thanks -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 09:22:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8ADMTSi022519; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:22:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8ADMTjq022511; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:22:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 10 Sep 2002 13:22:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20020910132227.15475.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: more cage help: tires X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) Tom polluted the list with yet more cage drivel >anybody have an opinion as to the best tire choice of the >following bunch?..... >-bridgestone potenza re92 >-pirelli p7000 supersport >-goodyear eagle rs-a [Dave] If you want something done, do it yourself... To that end, check out www.tirerack.com . They have a mondo selection of tires, reviews, customer feedback, sizing, ratings - you name it, they have it if it relates to tires... Last time I ordered, NTB price matched the shipped tire rack price (and ordered from them)... HTH Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 09:41:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8ADfcSi022788; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:41:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8ADfcAc022780; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:41:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020910134135.61365.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 06:41:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: '01 YZF600R carb synchronizing To: Motor PsychoL Danny , "William J. Huson" Cc: cplvfr , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Guys, I think he's probably just trying to sync the carbs after rejetting for a new pipe or something. You guys who never do any modifications to your bikes can just keep quiet over there! :^P Chris Weaver --- Motor PsychoL Danny wrote: > No kidding. If it stops running right, return for > warranty service. > > On Mon, 09 Sep 2002 21:12:17 -0400, "William J. > Huson" > wrote: > > >cplvfr wrote: > > > >> Anybody know how? My sister's fiance and I have > his bike apart and have > >> found there are no apparent places to connect a > vacuum gauge. WTF? > >> > >> Thanks > > > >Good grief! You took an `01 bike apart? Hint, > motor run, why screw with > >it. > > > >Bill > > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 09:52:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8ADqRSi023019; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:52:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8ADqRl7023009; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:52:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020910135224.53896.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 06:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: more cage help: tires To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020910132227.15475.qmail@server445.gisol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > Tom polluted the list with yet more cage drivel > > >anybody have an opinion as to the best tire choice of > the > >following bunch?..... > >-bridgestone potenza re92 > >-pirelli p7000 supersport > >-goodyear eagle rs-a > > [Dave] If you want something done, do it yourself... To > that end, check out www.tirerack.com . They have a mondo > selection of tires, reviews, customer feedback, sizing, > ratings - you name it, they have it if it relates to > tires... > > Last time I ordered, NTB price matched the shipped tire > rack price (and ordered from them)... > > HTH dave: thanks. funny, i was actually in the middle of an order from tirerack.com! new wheels and tires for wifey's car (which is about to become mine because she likes my new one better) :( ah, the joys of marriage.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 10:13:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AEDCSi023370; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:13:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AEDCex023363; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:13:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7DFF40.FDA511F7@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:18:40 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Weaver CC: Motor PsychoL Danny , cplvfr , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: '01 YZF600R carb synchronizing References: <20020910134135.61365.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Weaver wrote: > Guys, I think he's probably just trying to sync the > carbs after rejetting for a new pipe or something. You > guys who never do any modifications to your bikes can > just keep quiet over there! :^P > > Chris Weaver I did mods, and rejetted. However, it seems like American ingenuity figured out how to feed more'n one cylinder with only one carburetor! No synching required. :-) Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 10:18:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AEIaSi023535; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:18:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AEIaCQ023529; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:18:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7E0085.CE9A0098@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:24:06 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Gimer CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: more cage help: tires References: <20020910131518.47857.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Gimer wrote: > anybody have an opinion as to the best tire choice of the > following bunch?..... > > -bridgestone potenza re92 > -pirelli p7000 supersport > -goodyear eagle rs-a > > thanks > > -- > tg > Hmm... Well, I've used Pirelli on my my van and was very happy with them. At the moment both my trucks are running Bridgestone, save for the two cheapies my son put on the van when he had it for a year or so. I like the Bridgestone too, quiet on the road, and like the Pirellis, they stuck to the pavement in heavy rain. Only Goodyear Eagles I had were on my Z-28. Worked great for the first 15K or so and then they'd hydroplane at the first sign of rain. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 10:25:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AEPaSi023838; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:25:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AEPaQn023830; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:25:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <012f01c258d6$c4ba8940$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: , References: <1ad.82839ce.2aaed5d6@aol.com> Subject: Re: the leak... etc. Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:30:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Paul in DC was tired, hungry, in desperate need of alcoholic refreshment, and at the end of a ride back from New Hampshire, so he made a bee line for the old homestead and skipped Bike Night. Didn't make a single Bike Night this year. :( I keep waiting for one of Chuck P's informal Bike Nights at Java Shack. We're all technically newbies with lots to learn, BTW. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 ----- Original Message ----- From: > danny --- i don't believe i met you at bike night? tg --- you were > definitely missed! aki -- were you there? maybe next time! john aka > penguinbiker? paul in dc? it might be my fault -- i might have experienced > technical difficulties associating real names and faces with email addresses. > > even though im techinically still a newbie since i just started riding this > summer and purchased by bike at the end of june... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 10:31:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AEVOSi024072; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:31:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AEVOvU024064; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:31:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVauZMkoO5Oq9l2LehbXdGbStV6sm4y3ekqOYhYQxWmmgHtRU0hxvc9jlDmWlZMRVEo= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "'William J. Huson'" Cc: Subject: RE: '01 YZF600R carb synchronizing Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:31:16 -0400 Message-ID: <005e01c258d6$b98a00f0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal ...and get less'n than 60 HP out of 1380 cm^3. -----William J. Huson wrote Chris Weaver wrote: > Guys, I think he's probably just trying to sync the > carbs after rejetting for a new pipe or something. You > guys who never do any modifications to your bikes can > just keep quiet over there! :^P > > Chris Weaver I did mods, and rejetted. However, it seems like American ingenuity figured out how to feed more'n one cylinder with only one carburetor! No synching required. :-) Bill ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 10:35:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AEZVSi024230; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:35:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AEZUBI024224; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:35:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7E047C.AA749FA7@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:41:00 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Center of Gravity Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Before I go thru the aggravation of cobblng together a rocker board - large plank on top of a pipe - I figure I'd ask for a clue from the dc-cycles brain trust. Does anyone know what the CG is on a Harley bagger? A distance related to wheelbase would work. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 10:40:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AEe6Si024313; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:40:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AEe6gq024305; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:40:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7E0590.90F51C5F@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:45:36 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jon Strang CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: '01 YZF600R carb synchronizing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jon Strang wrote: > ...and get less'n than 60 HP out of 1380 cm^3. The standard carb with a bit of tweaking will support more'n 80 horsepower. Mine is a shade over 60 now, and in my opinion, that's enough for a bagger. The FLH Harleys aren't suited for Warp 3 speeds. Not to mention that at my advanced age (older than dirt) my reaction time is measured in seconds, not milliseconds. Slow an' chuggy suits me just fine :-) Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 11:01:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AF12Si024693; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:01:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AF119u024668; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:01:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:00:58 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Hah! It works! Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Many thanks to all the listers who responded to my brake-light questions. Props go out to all of you, especially the inimitable Matt Patton who dragged hisself out to my place to give me a hand. After much head-scratching, we decided the switches were passing enough electrons to register as 12V, but the amperage was really low (high resistance?), ergo no lights. New switches went on last night (again courtesy of Matt), and voila! The dern thing works. Fan-freakin'-tastic. So. Miles ridden thus far: Dunno. Five? Ten? Drops thus far: one, trying to turn around in the width of my driveway. Need to work on that low-speed maneuvering some, obviously. Gas stations visited for inspection: Two. Inspections performed: Zero. Frustrated Fish: One. It was all I could do not to ride in this morning. Good idea not to, though, as the crazy-ass BDC quotient was higher than usual today on the inner loop between 50 and the WW. Plus there was a four-mile backup, which I dodged by taking 210-295-395. People who sit in traffic jams because they can't be arsed to find an alternate route are suckers and deserve what they get. Anyway, riding is tons of fun even when you're as clueless as I am. I wouldn't exactly call it better than sex, but let's just say it's about as much fun as I've had with my clothes (LOTS of clothes) on. Fish. non cogito ergo non sum From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 11:19:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AFJlSi025019; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:19:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AFJk2d025012; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:19:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:18:45 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: Bike night Photos Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8AFJjSi024995 Here are a few photos from Sunday night. (Ok a few are from a ride on Sat) George Cole http://home1.nikonnet.com/servlet/com.arcsoft.LoginNew?com=arcsoftBanner&awp=index3.html&DIRECT=&USERNAME=gcole@XXXXXX&PASSWORD=nikoneditor_-1196372647&WHO=memberguest From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 11:51:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AFpwSi025362; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:51:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AFpw2E025358; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:51:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8b.1d9c10b3.2aaf6f0e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:51:42 EDT Subject: Re: bike night To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/10/2002 12:48:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX writes: > (i even tried to introduce myself to > non-dc-cycle people! --) You would be a lot safer... > of course they were attractive young men w/o > wedding > rings Lets see Attractive? No. Young? No. w/o ring? No. DAMN! #:-) > John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 11:57:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AFvdSi025540; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:57:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AFvdqT025532; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:57:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <121.169308b4.2aaf706e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:57:34 EDT Subject: Re: trucks hitting bikers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/10/2002 8:49:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sdave@XXXXXX writes: > >or use him to test drugs, instead of animals. Why test drugs on > >animals when we can test it on the lower life form we call SCUM and > >it's got closer genetical makeup. > Hells bells, half of the truckers out there are already "testing" drugs. And I do not want to think about the close genetics, makes me ill. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 12:02:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AG2BSi025736; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:02:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AG2A7P025726; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:02:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <14a.13cd2e2a.2aaf7178@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:02:00 EDT Subject: Re: '01 YZF600R carb synchronizing To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/10/2002 9:41:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, chris_vtr@XXXXXX writes: > Guys, I think he's probably just trying to sync the > carbs after rejetting for a new pipe or something. Clearly what he is doing is working on a damn expensive chunk of complex machinery without the proper instructions, or he would not be having the problem. Say "Shop Manuel" it can save you one hell of a lot of grief and money. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 12:05:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AG5oSi025901; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:05:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AG5o6r025890; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:05:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <007501c258e3$e2a79850$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: References: <8b.1d9c10b3.2aaf6f0e@aol.com> Subject: Re: bike night Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 12:05:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In a message dated 9/10/2002 12:48:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX writes: (i even tried to introduce myself to non-dc-cycle people! --) How do you do that, Hi, are you a non DC Cycle person. I'm not. of course they were attractive young men w/o wedding rings Lets see Attractive? Everyone has their own opinion, of course they all have (deleted) too http://guild.cydewaze.org/cast/cast3.php (I am the bottom right pic) Young? Age is just years of experience, the rest are just details w/o ring? I have a nice Celtic Cross ring. Oh that one, it means nothing Whatever #:-) > Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 13:06:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AH6pSi026565; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:06:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AH6n4d026550; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:06:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020910095417.022b30f0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:06:46 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: TiVo - Riding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I started this email at 9:15am then all Hell broke loose around here. It is after 1pm now. I have to say that I love, and highly recommend TiVo integrated with a DirecTV receiver. I picked up a Sony / TiVo combo that has blown my mind. I have it recording the few shows we watch routinely (Law and Order, Many HGTV DIY shows, Simpsons, plus all of the HBO series) plus anything with the keyword Motorcycle in the name. Besides standard Speedvision off-hour races from overseas, I am getting odd reality shows that have motorcycle themes, movies about motorcycles, Bike Week and more. The really cool part is that I watch them when I want, while it is recording some other show at the same time. I haven't connected the dual tuner cable yet, but when I do I get recordings of one channel while watching LiveTV on another (or a recording of something else). I went though a list of the next month of movies showing on my subscribed channels, and picked out a few at 2 and 3am to watch later. If I like them enough, I can save them off to videotape. TiVo is worth every penny when integrated into the DirecTV programming guide. Not sure how good it is with cable systems or as a separate unit. Of course the other features - pausing live TV, rewinding up to 30 minutes, skipping commercials .... they all rock as well. MC Content - I haven't been riding much because of the expired sticker and tire I'm still waiting on. But also - I have a bit of a back problem. Two bulging discs are making it hard to walk, let alone ride anymore. Kaiser is taking it's sweet time seeing me. I meet the surgeon next week to go over options, and my PCP seems to think surgery is the only option for my case - besides the countless drugs he has prescribed (no real help). So - I won't be riding through my favorite part of the year ... and with fresh shoes to boot! Anyone on list that is interested in riding a '97 VFR 750 around is welcome to stop by and take it for a spin once I get the sticker up to date. I won't be selling it - but I want to make sure it gets put through the paces routinely until I get this worked out. Destined to be my lowest mileage year yet - right around 4k right now. I think it's about to flip 35k. I can't wait to get back out there..... Sigh.... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 13:35:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AHZsSi026874; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:35:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AHZsC7026866; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:35:54 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666BB6D@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'jkop@XXXXXX'" Subject: rides in MD Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:40:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Jeff Kopchik Just Konfessed, "I'm a new rider. Passed the MSF course in May and bought a used '92 Honda Nighthawk 750. I've been monitoring this discussion group since then." [Congratulations, a sane way to start.] "I'm married with a 5 year old son, so I generally can't do really long rides." [You'd be surprised how long they can hang on :^)] "But, I am looking for people who may be interested in shorter (2-3 hour RT) rides in MD beginning and ending around Bethesda. I usually ride on Saturday or Sunday mornings." [Again, a sane time. By noon the cagers are clogging the roads. My youngest daughter passed the MSF course last month and as soon as I finish the forks on Bike #2 *, we'll be taking some easy rubber-nekking rides. ] "Patti showed me the way to Sugarloaf a couple of weeks ago and I really enjoyed the ride. Let me know if you are interested. Jeff" [Carl in Bethesda (just west of NIH. 301-530-3753 --- listed if you lose it] * @#$%ing Honda snap rings. Got the rusty ones out, but looking for Kawasaki springclips to replace them. Carl in Bethesda Commuting into your nation's capital since 1981 through sun, rain, over snow, and around road ragers. '85 VF700S (Rocin-ahorito); '83 VF700F (666); '97 Aerostich Roadcrafter (Fred the Red); '02 JR Phoenix: (Amarillo Joe) Don't need no loud pipes; I got big honking tooters: http://members.tripod.com/~v65_magna/sos_99/sat_lunch2.jpg http://www.crosswinds.net/~denbrook/Motorcycles/Events/mmc-2-17-01/Carls_Sab re.jpg http://www.crashmancomics.com/sabmag/rogues/carlcuster.jpg From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 14:17:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AIHISi027272; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:17:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AIHHCt027264; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:17:17 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020910181710.73599.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: rides in MD To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666BB6D@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > "Patti showed me the way to Sugarloaf a couple of weeks ago and I really > enjoyed the ride. Let me know if you are interested. Has Sugarloaf been opened to motorcycles, or do you still have to ride in looking to the right of the road so you fail to see the "No Motorcycles" sign on the left? One of these days we ought to have another "coast" ride down the mountain. Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Fairfax, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 14:27:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AIRESi027480; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:27:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AIREsq027472; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:27:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:27:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200209101427.AA12845720@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: OT: Parking ticket humor X-Mailer: Parking Tickets I went to the store the other day, I was only in there for about 5 minutes and when I came out there was a damn motorcycle cop writing a parking ticket. So I went up to him and said, 'Come on buddy, how about giving a guy a break?' He ignored me and continued writing the ticket. So I called him a pencil necked nazi. He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having bald tires!! So I called him a son of a mutant pig. He finished the second ticket and put it on the car with the first. Then he started writing a third ticket!! This went on for about 20 minutes, the more I abused him, the more tickets he wrote. I didn't really care!! My car was parked around the corner... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 15:15:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AJFOSi027974; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:15:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AJFO2L027966; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:15:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: "Louis F. Caplan" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: rides in MD Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:15:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666BB6D@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> <20020910181710.73599.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020910181710.73599.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8AJFMSi027954 no motorcycles.. Someone should borrow that sign. move it to a safer place... like the bottom of a lake On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:17:10 -0700 (PDT), "Louis F. Caplan" wrote: >> "Patti showed me the way to Sugarloaf a couple of weeks ago and I really >> enjoyed the ride. Let me know if you are interested. > >Has Sugarloaf been opened to motorcycles, or do you still have to ride in >looking to the right of the road so you fail to see the "No Motorcycles" sign >on the left? > >One of these days we ought to have another "coast" ride down the mountain. > >Louis > > >===== >"Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours >Fairfax, VA >Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ > >Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/nighthawk700/cycle.htm > >__________________________________________________ >Yahoo! - We Remember >9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost >http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 15:42:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AJgGSi028304; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:42:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AJgDV0028294; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:42:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <01a201c25901$c9d45390$776c52a4@rclibB2YKR01> From: "Patti Rodgers" To: "Louis F. Caplan" , References: <20020910181710.73599.qmail@web40201.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: rides in MD Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:39:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 >>Has Sugarloaf been opened to motorcycles, or do you still have to ride in >>looking to the right of the road so you fail to see the "No Motorcycles" sign >>on the left? I've honestly never seen a No Motorcycles sign, and although I am the first one to admit I am a little, uh, "flighty" I did work right off the Mountain for a couple years. I would've thought after all that time I'd have seen a sign... at any rate, I ride over the top of the mountain every now and then. Riding on gravel sucks as a rule of thumb, but it's so pretty out there I'll deal with the gravel. It seems like the roads are being rebuilt; last time I was there, the entry road turned to gravel after about a mile, but turned back into regular road near the center of the mountain. Then it turned back into gravel again. I guess it also depends on which one of the mountain roads you take. But I'd be happy to go back there any time anyone wants to go, and am OK with riding over the gravel to the top of the mountain and equally OK with turning back and staying on pavement. There's a lot of really pretty roads out there. Beware Rock Creek Park these days... the Bambi population is really high and they will wander out of the woods closer to daylight, just keep an eye out all the time. What's worse than hitting Bambi is getting rear-ended by the tailgater as you try to avoid Bambi. cheers, patti From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 15:50:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AJogSi028481; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:50:42 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AJofUK028473; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:50:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <003a01c25903$1e9d6280$94805b0c@micron> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Bike Night Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:49:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Was finally able to squeeze in an early, first, CarPool visit (had to leave at 6:45). Sorry and darn, didn't recognize anybody (caught the later parts of Sampras/Agassi in between crowd scans). One quick beverage and out. But glad to hear it went well and hope further BikeNights are up for resurrection. Bill S. / DC '99 VN750 > Parked on the street for easy departure. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 15:54:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AJs1Si028623; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:54:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AJs1Nk028618; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:54:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666BB70@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'singley@XXXXXX'" Subject: tools Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:58:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Erick expressed "(hoping to finally ride soon after drilling out old, rusting, frozen brake bleed valve from 74' CB750. Being able to stop seems like a good thing...)" Sniffing around Sears-Monkey-Mall, I saw a 6 point 8mm combination wrench. It was beneath their usual 12 point selection. Just the thing for brake bleeding. Also, most of you already know Trak is going out of business. The Super Trak in Laurel (198 just west of the BWP) has a nice selection left and it's already 50% off. 27mm and 1 1/6" sockets for those fork caps ~ $3.50 each. Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 16:00:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AK0SSi028790; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:00:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AK0SX0028782; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:00:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020910200022.76797.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: rides in MD To: Patti Rodgers , "Louis F. Caplan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <01a201c25901$c9d45390$776c52a4@rclibB2YKR01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the "no motorcycles" sign is still there (green text on a little white sign).... but i have never seen or had to deal with enforcement of that "rule." --- Patti Rodgers wrote: > >>Has Sugarloaf been opened to motorcycles, or do you > still have to ride in > >>looking to the right of the road so you fail to see the > "No Motorcycles" > sign > >>on the left? > > I've honestly never seen a No Motorcycles sign, and > although I am the first > one to admit I am a little, uh, "flighty" I did work > right off the Mountain > for a couple years. I would've thought after all that > time I'd have seen a > sign... __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 16:45:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8AKjiSi029183; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:45:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8AKjhx7029173; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:45:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666BB71@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Subject: music & Mirrors Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:50:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Troutman trolled "Another problem was volume. . . Think I need an amp or something. Not looking for suggestions - Dan bit first, "AMP??? You wanna go deaf? If not get some of the in-ear style headphones. They cut out the wind/road noise so you can enjoy your music at a reasonable volume. IMO, cant beat these for the price: " Some love The Plug some hate it (tho the distracters left a lingering question about what orifice they used :^) Replacing the Koss poly with a quality plug, e.g. Sparkplug or Max is a major improvement, I'm told. FWIW, I don't use the Koss Plug but run my source thru an amp pulled from a computer-speaker (CVS $10). Does just fine through the Howard Leight Max's. Local radio: Sony SRF-M35. Digital, Local/Distance switch, hangs around my neck on an ID strap. $30 at Wally Mart. Mirrors: Re: Rearviews again to the fore Chris Norloff noted, "Yeah. I've been tempted to disconnect my rear brake's brake-light switch so I can control what drivers behind me see with just the front brake lever." Disconnect the front switch. Then use the rear pedal to flash your brake light as you brake with the front. You can even tap to the music. Might kill next year's rear brake thread. =8^O Napoleon mirrors. A bit more but what a difference. Olde Weird Carl From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 17:49:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8ALnsSi029887; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:49:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8ALnrqv029877; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:49:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Sent: 10 Sep 2002 21:49:49 GMT Message-ID: <024401c25916$068dbce0$6401a8c0@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: Subject: Paging corbett Buford--good news! Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:04:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Hey Corbett: I need a small favor from you. I won the court case against the tenants and need to get something from you. Can you email me if you get this? Thanks!!!! Laura From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 20:23:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8B0NESi031140; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:23:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8B0N92q031125; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:23:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <94.2c408436.2aafe6e4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:23:00 EDT Subject: Re: rides in MD To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/10/2002 1:35:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Carl.Custer@XXXXXX writes: > * @#$%ing Honda snap rings. > Got the rusty ones out, but looking for Kawasaki springclips to replace > them. They are not hard to work with if you have experience, of course getting it sucks. Make DAMN sure that the clips are the same diameter and wire size, having a piece of spring steel sliding up and down your cylinder will destroy it damn fast. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 20:28:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8B0S0Si031281; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:28:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8B0S0cX031274; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:28:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <176.e479456.2aafe804@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:27:48 EDT Subject: Re: OT: Parking ticket humor To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/10/2002 2:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: > I didn't really care!! My car was parked around the corner... Reminds me of a story of a biker who got into it with a cage driver in a restaurant, cage driver goes out, stands next to the bike glaring through the window at the Harley in the lot, kicks the bike over and flips the biker off. The owner of the bike, standing behind, him did not take it too well. True? damnifIknow John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 23:00:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8B30LSi032258; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8B30Ixt032243; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910225942.009f8eb0@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:59:45 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: llarson@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:00 PM 9/10/02, TG wrote: >anybody have an opinion as to the best tire choice of the >following bunch?..... > >-bridgestone potenza re92 >-pirelli p7000 supersport >-goodyear eagle rs-a For what cage? What are your criteria? If they are pure performance (a guess, given your two wheel ride), for a real performance vehicle (i.e., < 2500 lbs),I see no Yoks, Kumhos, Hoosiers, Goodriches, or even Pirelli 9000s. If you really mean to limit the choice to those three: - the Pirellis if you prioritize wet weather performance, - the RE92's for the dry, - and the Goodies for longevity. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 23:00:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8B30dSi032281; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8B30cLZ032275; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910230006.009fbbc0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: llarson@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >I have to say that I love, and highly recommend TiVo integrated with a >DirecTV receiver. I picked up a Sony / TiVo combo that has blown my >mind. I have it recording the few shows we watch routinely (Law and Order, >Many HGTV DIY shows, Simpsons, plus all of the HBO series) plus anything >with the keyword Motorcycle in the name. Besides standard Speedvision >off-hour races from overseas, I am getting odd reality shows that have >motorcycle themes, movies about motorcycles, Bike Week and more. The >really cool part is that I watch them when I want, while it is recording >some other show at the same time. I haven't connected the dual tuner cable >yet, but when I do I get recordings of one channel while watching LiveTV on >another (or a recording of something else). I went though a list of the >next month of movies showing on my subscribed channels, and picked out a >few at 2 and 3am to watch later. If I like them enough, I can save them >off to videotape. TiVo is worth every penny when integrated into the >DirecTV programming guide. Not sure how good it is with cable systems or >as a separate unit. Of course the other features - pausing live TV, >rewinding up to 30 minutes, skipping commercials .... they all rock as well. Of course, ReplayTV with DirectTV is even better, 'cuz you don't hit Tivo's bullshit "Lifetime" subscription fee, which is good only for the lifetime of the Tivo unit, not the owner. In any event, both are Linux or SCO derivatives which are eminently hackable to provide even greater storage and even swappable hard drives to avoid the quality loss in transferring to videotape. The best buy of all is used ReplayTV units purchased on eBay. Regards, Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 23:00:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8B30oSi032317; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8B30nt7032312; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910223927.009f1370@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:59:40 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: llarson@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 In-Reply-To: <200209102300.g8AN01mX030575@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:00 PM 9/10/02, TG wrote: >anybody have an opinion as to the best tire choice of the >following bunch?..... > >-bridgestone potenza re92 >-pirelli p7000 supersport >-goodyear eagle rs-a For what cage? What are your criteria? If they are pure performance (a guess, given your two wheel ride), for a real performance vehicle (i.e., < 2500 lbs),I see no Yoks, Kumhos, Hoosiers, Goodriches, or even Pirelli 9000s. If you really mean to limit the choice to those three: - the Pirellis if you prioritize wet weather performance, - the RE92's for the dry, - and the Goodies for longevity. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 23:00:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8B30uSi032349; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8B30ujM032344; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910224853.009f5900@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:00:19 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: llarson@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 In-Reply-To: <200209102300.g8AN01mX030575@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >I have to say that I love, and highly recommend TiVo integrated with a >DirecTV receiver. I picked up a Sony / TiVo combo that has blown my >mind. I have it recording the few shows we watch routinely (Law and Order, >Many HGTV DIY shows, Simpsons, plus all of the HBO series) plus anything >with the keyword Motorcycle in the name. Besides standard Speedvision >off-hour races from overseas, I am getting odd reality shows that have >motorcycle themes, movies about motorcycles, Bike Week and more. The >really cool part is that I watch them when I want, while it is recording >some other show at the same time. I haven't connected the dual tuner cable >yet, but when I do I get recordings of one channel while watching LiveTV on >another (or a recording of something else). I went though a list of the >next month of movies showing on my subscribed channels, and picked out a >few at 2 and 3am to watch later. If I like them enough, I can save them >off to videotape. TiVo is worth every penny when integrated into the >DirecTV programming guide. Not sure how good it is with cable systems or >as a separate unit. Of course the other features - pausing live TV, >rewinding up to 30 minutes, skipping commercials .... they all rock as well. Of course, ReplayTV with DirectTV is even better, 'cuz you don't hit Tivo's bullshit "Lifetime" subscription fee, which is good only for the lifetime of the Tivo unit, not the owner. In any event, both are Linux or SCO derivatives which are eminently hackable to provide even greater storage and even swappable hard drives to avoid the quality loss in transferring to videotape. The best buy of all is used ReplayTV units purchased on eBay. Regards, Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue Sep 10 23:07:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8B37SSi000552; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:07:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8B37Scd000541; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:07:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910225924.02bae9a0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: rmeyer9@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 23:01:43 -0400 To: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" , From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Proper lock placement In-Reply-To: <92EE52C13F8034478B4B9F85DA67A66640913A@rnc1.rnchq.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:20 PM 9/6/02 -0400, Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: >I do have a cover for the bike, and today I recieved my 5 foot long >"Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit" lock. I wanted to know what the best >way of using this chain is, aside from chaining it to something >unmovable. I know that with bicycles, you should always chain the frame, >not the wheels, since wheels are easy to take off. Does the same hold >true for motorcycles? > >How do you guys chain your bike? Check out: http://www.lockitt.com/advise.htm I don't know where you live, so I don't know if you can install one of these, but take a look at: http://www.lockitt.com/lockdown.htm Lockitt.com has both a wealth of great security products, and a wealth of information. Bob Meyer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 00:19:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8B4JjSi001016; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:19:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8B4Ji08001005; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:19:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Lisa Goddard" To: "dccycles" Subject: Sugarloaf Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:17:38 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: rides in MD To: Patti Rodgers , "Louis F. Caplan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX the "no motorcycles" sign is still there (green text on a little white sign).... but i have never seen or had to deal with enforcement of that "rule." I second or third for fourth that rule too. I have gone there, asked the guy if I could use the facilities. He gave me directions to ride to them and used the "no motorcycles" sign as a point of reference in his directions for me to ride to the facilities. Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 07:34:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BBYTSi003512; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:34:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BBYSim003502; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:34:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Exhaust Repairs Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:32:09 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209110732094H.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While I'm searching the 'net and groups, I thought I'd post the question here as well. Rita's bike, the Yamaha 250 Exciter, has a rusted out exhaust mainly on a 2" wide 6" long section on the bottom of the pipe. I ordered a replacement from CPS in Woodbridge but it's on back order. I'm going to hunt the 'net to look for ideas. Other suggestions are a bike junk yard like the one over by NVCC in Woodbridge. Any other suggestions? Are there replacements I can use from other years/bikes? Can it be repaired instead of replaced and where could I get it done? Currently looks aren't that important. If I thought it'd pass inspection, I'd use a couple of hose clamps and put a piece of metal over the hole. Thanks, Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 07:46:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BBkSSi003690; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:46:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BBkSJb003682; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:46:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Exhaust Repairs Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:44:18 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <0209110732094H.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> In-Reply-To: <0209110732094H.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209110744184I.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit An old message on usenet: "...Chucked the boat anchor muffler and bolted on (actually used hose clamps) a super-trapp (a la the dirt-bike kind) exhaust which ran about $25 for the canister and core. Bigger main jet and geared it wayyyyyy taller and I was set..." --Jenner Carl On Wednesday 11 September 2002 07:32, Carl Schelin wrote: > While I'm searching the 'net and groups, I thought I'd post the question > here as well. > > Rita's bike, the Yamaha 250 Exciter, has a rusted out exhaust mainly on a > 2" wide 6" long section on the bottom of the pipe. > > I ordered a replacement from CPS in Woodbridge but it's on back order. > > I'm going to hunt the 'net to look for ideas. Other suggestions are a bike > junk yard like the one over by NVCC in Woodbridge. > > Any other suggestions? Are there replacements I can use from other > years/bikes? Can it be repaired instead of replaced and where could I get > it done? Currently looks aren't that important. If I thought it'd pass > inspection, I'd use a couple of hose clamps and put a piece of metal over > the hole. > > Thanks, > > Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 08:01:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BC1USi003994; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:01:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BC1U4L003984; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:01:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <200209111201.g8BC1Qv06398@kiri.meretrix.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: kam3997@XXXXXX Subject: forward: New bike maintenance MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <6396.1031745686.1@XXXXXX> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:01:26 -0400 From: harry@XXXXXX Forwarding message from non-subscriber (posting attempt was rejected by software). Reply directly back to original sender, as they're not on the dc-cycles list. -harry ------- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 04:54:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: New bike maintenance Hi everyone.... An acquantince got me onto your web-site and I was wondering if anyone can give me maintenance lessons on my 2002 Yahama VSC650. Specifically, oil changes and other general maintenance I can do myself. And, I bought a 3/4 windshield I want to install, but am having a bit of trouble with that as well! Karen ------- End of Forwarded Message From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 08:04:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BC4pSi004140; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:04:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BC4pZk004134; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:04:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'William J. Huson'" , "'Patti Rodgers'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Chrome Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:04:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There is a company in Paducah KY called Brown's Custom Chrome...from what I understand they are HUGE. HD shops or custom shops (Car or Bike) which may be able to help. gb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 08:10:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BCAVSi004336; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:10:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BCAU7R004326; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:10:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911121023.99640.qmail@web40204.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 05:10:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Sugarloaf To: DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > the "no motorcycles" sign is still there (green text on a > little white sign).... but i have never seen or had to deal > with enforcement of that "rule." > > I second or third for fourth that rule too. I have gone there, asked the > guy if I could use the facilities. He gave me directions to ride to them > and used the "no motorcycles" sign as a point of reference in his directions > for me to ride to the facilities. One time when I was there, a woman who worked there stopped me before I went up, but said that because no one was using the private hall (near the exit road) it would be okay for me to ride up. Apparently some of the "life-saving" loud pipes annoyed the owners (Sugarloaf Mountain and the road is privately owned) enough to motivate them to go for the easy fix of putting up a "No Motorcycles" sign. Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Fairfax, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 09:10:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BDAvSi004758; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:10:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BDAu0L004748; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:10:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926D0@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: "'DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX '" Subject: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:11:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" A few weeks ago when we had the heavy rain, I rode my '94 Seca II into work. On my ride home my bike was stuttering. I filled up w/ gas as I was near empty, it was still stuttering but running smoother, when I got to reserve it was rough again. Next time I filled up I put some gas dryer in w/ it. It was running fine. When I reached reserve on that tank Monday morning on 66 I couldn't get over 55mph (I know I shouldn't). I then sputtered into DC to where I park. I planned to get gas at lunch, but when I tried to move the bike it would stall. After work I tried to drain the carbs. I couldn't open the inner 2 as the screws were stripping (someone mentioned a tool to fix this a week ago). It now would start, but not move. I emptied the outer 2 carbs about 4 times. I added a gallon of gas, hoping that would help. I added 2 bottles about (12 ounces) of gas dryer. It now was having trouble starting. Tuesday night I went back, removed the spark plugs, they were black, cleaned them off w/ sandpaper. I sprayed brake/contact cleaner in the cylinders to make them more combustable. Now I can hear the battery cranking but it seems the bike is having trouble firing. I'm thinking I need to get all the gas out. Is there a tube at the bottom of the tank I could use to do this? Do I need to take the tank off? Is there anyway to empty the two inner carbs? I won't be able to respond until later today, due to a family matter I have to attend to today. I'd really like to get it running tonight though. Otherwise I'll probably have it towed or beg here for a ride to a shop tomorrow. Thanks for any help. Rich '94 Seca II From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 09:46:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BDkSSi005193; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:46:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BDkSaG005185; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:46:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911134625.84845.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 06:46:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 To: llarson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910223927.009f1370@mail.9netave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- llarson@XXXXXX wrote: > At 07:00 PM 9/10/02, TG wrote: > > >anybody have an opinion as to the best tire choice of > the > >following bunch?..... > > > >-bridgestone potenza re92 > >-pirelli p7000 supersport > >-goodyear eagle rs-a > > For what cage? What are your criteria? If they are > pure performance (a guess, given your two wheel ride), > for a real performance vehicle (i.e., < 2500 lbs),I see > no Yoks, Kumhos, Hoosiers, Goodriches, or even Pirelli > 9000s. > > If you really mean to limit the choice to those three: > - the Pirellis if you prioritize wet weather performance, > - the RE92's for the dry, > - and the Goodies for longevity. these were the only tires available from tirerack.com which would have fit the wheels i ordered. i read a number of reviews for each tire on the site, and decided against all of 'em. instead, i'll be following dave yates' example and attempting to get a price match at a local tire store. -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 09:48:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BDmiSi005336; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:48:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BDmhDV005327; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:48:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7F4B02.563272A@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:54:10 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Hall CC: "'DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX '" Subject: Re: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926D0@SERVER1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The main fuel line will be attached on the fuel on/off/res valve. Disconnect, hook a temporary tube to it, insert in catch bucket and turn the valve to reserve. Fuel should drain out of the tank. You may want to add gas to rinse the tank, or add pint of methanol which absorbs water to rinse it out. Getting the carbs bowls empty won't be fun, might want to try to run it clean with gas/drygas mix after cleaning the tank and filters (if any). I carry a tank drain tube with me, also known as "Georgia Gas Credit Card" :-) Bill Rich Hall wrote: > A few weeks ago when we had the heavy rain, I rode my '94 Seca II into work. > On my ride home my bike was stuttering. I filled up w/ gas as I was near > empty, it was still stuttering but running smoother, when I got to reserve > it was rough again. Next time I filled up I put some gas dryer in w/ it. > It was running fine. When I reached reserve on that tank Monday morning on > 66 I couldn't get over 55mph (I know I shouldn't). I then sputtered into DC > to where I park. I planned to get gas at lunch, but when I tried to move > the bike it would stall. > After work I tried to drain the carbs. I couldn't open the inner 2 as the > screws were stripping (someone mentioned a tool to fix this a week ago). It > now would start, but not move. > I emptied the outer 2 carbs about 4 times. I added a gallon of gas, hoping > that would help. I added 2 bottles about (12 ounces) of gas dryer. It now > was having trouble starting. > Tuesday night I went back, removed the spark plugs, they were black, cleaned > them off w/ sandpaper. I sprayed brake/contact cleaner in the cylinders to > make them more combustable. Now I can hear the battery cranking but it > seems the bike is having trouble firing. > I'm thinking I need to get all the gas out. Is there a tube at the bottom > of the tank I could use to do this? Do I need to take the tank off? Is > there anyway to empty the two inner carbs? > I won't be able to respond until later today, due to a family matter I have > to attend to today. I'd really like to get it running tonight though. > Otherwise I'll probably have it towed or beg here for a ride to a shop > tomorrow. > Thanks for any help. > Rich > '94 Seca II From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 09:51:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BDp7Si005606; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:51:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BDp7Xm005599; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:51:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7F4B94.E3654020@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:56:36 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Gimer CC: llarson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 References: <20020911134625.84845.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Gimer wrote: > these were the only tires available from tirerack.com which > would have fit the wheels i ordered. i read a number of > reviews for each tire on the site, and decided against all > of 'em. instead, i'll be following dave yates' example and > attempting to get a price match at a local tire store. > > -- > tg > Your car didn't come with wheels? Lawsy, am I in for a shock when I go car shopping again. (newest truck 1990) Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 09:54:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BDsPSi005755; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:54:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BDsOI0005744; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:54:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:54:11 EDT Subject: Re: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/11/2002 9:11:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RichH@XXXXXX writes: > I added 2 bottles about (12 ounces) of gas dryer. It now > was having trouble starting. You can only put just so much of that stuff in the gas, too much and it will not burn anymore. Frankly I am not so sure you have water in your gas, I mean How did it get there? There is no way rain should be able to get into your tank or carbs (Unless you are riding an old Limey with ticklers.) You do need to drain your tank and carbs, if for not other reason then to remove all the shituff you put into it. There are several ways to drain the tank: do you have a prime position on your fuel valve (do you have a fuel valve?) if so pull a fuel hose and simply put the valve in prime and let it drain (Into a safe container) if you have no prime you will need to put a vacuum pump on the vacuum line to get it to drain. Or you could siphon it out, this has the advantage of allowing you to "vacuum" crap out of the bottom of the tank. I have a vacuum "Pump" design that you could build for yourself to pump the fuel out. I have said this before "whenever you have a problem that involves not running correctly the first thing to do is replace your plugs. If that is not the problem it is no big deal you now have a spare set of plugs you will eventually use anyhow. If it is the problem you have just cured it easily and cheaply." I am inclined to believe your problem was electrical, a bad/wet plug wire or a water filled connection, both more likely then rain getting into your fuel. Now you need to drain the tank and carbs to get the stuff you added out of them, and you may still have the original problem. The bike will be dry by the time you drain the tank and try to start it, if it starts I would not assume you have cured the problem. Take it out and hose it down while running to see if the problem returns. If not YAY! If it does you have saved yourself another roadside breakdown and will have time to find the real culprit. Good luck. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 09:56:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BDuLSi005922; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:56:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BDuLfU005913; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:56:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911135618.91327.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 06:56:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 To: "William J. Huson" Cc: llarson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3D7F4B94.E3654020@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > Tom Gimer wrote: > > > these were the only tires available from tirerack.com > which > > would have fit the wheels i ordered. i read a number > of > > reviews for each tire on the site, and decided against > all > > of 'em. instead, i'll be following dave yates' example > and > > attempting to get a price match at a local tire store. > > > > -- > > tg > > > > Your car didn't come with wheels? Lawsy, am I in for a > shock when I go > car shopping again. (newest truck 1990) my "fancy truck" came with wheels. my wife took it from me. :( her car is a convertible saab... and it will continue to look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very pretty in it) until some aftermarket wheels and low profile tires are installed. even then there may be questions about my sexuality. ;) -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 09:59:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BDxFSi006070; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:59:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BDxEUe006061; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:59:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:03:24 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike In-Reply-To: <3D7F4B02.563272A@patriot.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Personally, I'd get a bottle of carb cleaner or starting fluid and spray it in the intake and try to start it. Unless you rode the thing under water, it shouldn't have THAT much water in it. If it doesn't start with the carb cleaner/starting fluid, its not fuel. Maybe its ignition related, have you checked for a spark? Dan On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, William J. Huson wrote: > The main fuel line will be attached on the fuel on/off/res valve. Disconnect, > hook a temporary tube to it, insert in catch bucket and turn the valve to > reserve. Fuel should drain out of the tank. You may want to add gas to rinse > the tank, or add pint of methanol which absorbs water to rinse it out. Getting > the carbs bowls empty won't be fun, might want to try to run it clean with > gas/drygas mix after cleaning the tank and filters (if any). > > I carry a tank drain tube with me, also known as "Georgia Gas Credit Card" :-) > > Bill > > > Rich Hall wrote: > > > A few weeks ago when we had the heavy rain, I rode my '94 Seca II into work. > > On my ride home my bike was stuttering. I filled up w/ gas as I was near > > empty, it was still stuttering but running smoother, when I got to reserve > > it was rough again. Next time I filled up I put some gas dryer in w/ it. > > It was running fine. When I reached reserve on that tank Monday morning on > > 66 I couldn't get over 55mph (I know I shouldn't). I then sputtered into DC > > to where I park. I planned to get gas at lunch, but when I tried to move > > the bike it would stall. > > After work I tried to drain the carbs. I couldn't open the inner 2 as the > > screws were stripping (someone mentioned a tool to fix this a week ago). It > > now would start, but not move. > > I emptied the outer 2 carbs about 4 times. I added a gallon of gas, hoping > > that would help. I added 2 bottles about (12 ounces) of gas dryer. It now > > was having trouble starting. > > Tuesday night I went back, removed the spark plugs, they were black, cleaned > > them off w/ sandpaper. I sprayed brake/contact cleaner in the cylinders to > > make them more combustable. Now I can hear the battery cranking but it > > seems the bike is having trouble firing. > > I'm thinking I need to get all the gas out. Is there a tube at the bottom > > of the tank I could use to do this? Do I need to take the tank off? Is > > there anyway to empty the two inner carbs? > > I won't be able to respond until later today, due to a family matter I have > > to attend to today. I'd really like to get it running tonight though. > > Otherwise I'll probably have it towed or beg here for a ride to a shop > > tomorrow. > > Thanks for any help. > > Rich > > '94 Seca II > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:01:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BE1VSi006245; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:01:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BE1VfL006234; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:01:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <44.25c6a55f.2ab0a6b3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:01:23 EDT Subject: Re: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 I also remember a problem on some Kawasaki bikes that could be a problem for others. The spark plug wells are really deep and the caps do not seal them against water. they do put small drain holes at the bottom of the wells but those can get plugged up (there are bugs that like to build mud nests in holes just that size.) The plug well fills with water and grounds out the plug caps. Pull your plug caps and see if they are wet, if they are look for the drain holes and see if one or more are plugged. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:03:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BE3aSi006388; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:03:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BE3av6006382; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:03:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <198.ce8272d.2ab0a72b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:03:23 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/11/2002 9:55:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, t_gimer@XXXXXX writes: > even then there may be questions about my > sexuality. ;) > Always drive with several bimbos in the car with you. At least untill your wife gives you back your truck. Or kills you. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:06:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BE6fSi006547; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:06:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BE6fOv006537; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:06:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911140633.57970.qmail@web40509.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:06:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Ray Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 To: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <198.ce8272d.2ab0a72b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii t_gimer@XXXXXX writes: > even then there may be questions about my > sexuality. ;) Tom, I'm not sure the *car* is the reason for the questions. Changing to bling-bling rims and fancy rubber won't change that much.... Brian Ray __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:08:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BE8CSi006583; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:08:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BE8CN6006574; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:08:12 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:08:07 EDT Subject: Re: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/11/2002 9:59:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dan@XXXXXX writes: > Personally, I'd get a bottle of carb cleaner [or starting fluid} and spray > it in the intake and try to start it. NOOOOOOooooooo! Carb cleaner can destroy the rubber components in your carbs, especially your diaphragms, you probably do not want to know how much it would cost to replace them. Carb cleaner sprayed into the intakes cannot reach anything that needs to be cleaned anyhow. Just say no! John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:11:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BEBfSi006856; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:11:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BEBfmt006849; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:11:41 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911141138.93606.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:11:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 To: Brian Ray , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20020911140633.57970.qmail@web40509.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Brian Ray wrote: > > t_gimer@XXXXXX writes: > > > even then there may be questions about my > > sexuality. ;) > > Tom, I'm not sure the *car* is the reason for the > questions. Changing to bling-bling rims and fancy > rubber won't change that much.... > > Brian Ray if you're making a pass at me, i'd prefer you just come right out and tell me that you like my ass.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:17:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BEH2Si007009; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:17:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BEH2pK007003; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:17:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 11 Sep 2002 14:17:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20020911141700.24866.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Gimer's Saab story X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) >my "fancy truck" came with wheels. my wife took it from >me. :( [Dave] It's clear who wears the pants in the Gimer household... >her car is a convertible saab... and it will continue to >look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very pretty >in it) until some aftermarket wheels and low profile tires >are installed. [Dave] Then, you will look like 'Mid-life-crisis' man or maybe we can take to calling you 'Pimper'... even then there may be questions about my >sexuality. ;) [Dave] Dude. After this, there will be NO question... Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:21:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BELWSi007166; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:21:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BELWKP007158; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:21:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:25:34 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > NOOOOOOooooooo! > > Carb cleaner can destroy the rubber components in your carbs, especially your > diaphragms, you probably do not want to know how much it would cost to > replace them. Haven't had a problem with it yet. An how would it get into the diaphrams if you sprayed it into the intake? > Carb cleaner sprayed into the intakes cannot reach anything that needs to be > cleaned anyhow. Who said anything about cleaning? Its just good for getting something started when it can't get fuel. I use it to start my Jet Skis after being winterized so I don't have to crank them over for minutes on a weak battery. Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:22:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BEMaSi007200; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:22:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BEMZ83007192; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:22:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911142233.99071.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:22:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 To: Tom Gimer , "William J. Huson" Cc: llarson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020911135618.91327.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tom, It can't possibly get worse than the ribbing I got when I purchased a Mazda Miata. The only way I was able to quell peoples' suspicions once I did that was to put a big honkin' roll bar on it and propose marriage to Sally. Even now there may be a few doubters, and I'm not even very pretty! :^) Chris --- Tom Gimer wrote: > her car is a convertible saab... and it will > continue to > look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very > pretty > in it) until some aftermarket wheels and low profile > tires > are installed. even then there may be questions > about my > sexuality. ;) __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:26:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BEQvSi007473; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:26:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BEQvtQ007465; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:26:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 11 Sep 2002 14:26:56 -0000 Message-ID: <20020911142656.27320.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Chris commented: >Tom, >It can't possibly get worse than the ribbing I got >when I purchased a Mazda Miata. [Dave] Nah. The Miata has redeeming qualities ( it goes like stink with but tires, a v8 & a roll bar). The only way I was >able to quell peoples' suspicions once I did that was >to put a big honkin' roll bar on it and propose >marriage to Sally. [Dave] Nowhere close to the certainty of Gimer's double life... It's a SAAB ! Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:29:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BET8Si007625; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:29:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BET8kh007617; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:29:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020911102708.00a03730@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:28:44 -0400 To: Tom Gimer , "William J. Huson" From: llarson@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020911135618.91327.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> References: <3D7F4B94.E3654020@patriot.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:56 AM 9/11/02, Tom Gimer wrote: >her car is a convertible saab... and it will continue to >look a bit on the feminine side.... even then there may >be questions about my sexuality. ;) Just be careful while bending over to stick the key in the floor. Chuck could be hiding anywhere. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:29:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BETNSi007661; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:29:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BETNxM007654; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:29:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911142921.99347.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 07:29:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Gimer's Saab story To: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020911141700.24866.qmail@server445.gisol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > > > >my "fancy truck" came with wheels. my wife took it from > >me. :( > > [Dave] It's clear who wears the pants in the Gimer > household... i do have some tighty whiteys that my wife sometime refers to as "monkey pants".... it would be a crime to allow my wife's butt to be covered up with pants. as for losing the truck to my baby.... whatever! i have a 996 in the garage. 8-D > >her car is a convertible saab... and it will continue to > >look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very > pretty > >in it) until some aftermarket wheels and low profile > tires > >are installed. > > [Dave] Then, you will look like 'Mid-life-crisis' man or > maybe we can take to calling you 'Pimper'... i'm actually only 31 years old. mid-life crisis will likely involve a v12 mercedes convertible. "pimper" does have a nice right to it, though.... so feel free to use it > even then there may be questions about my > >sexuality. ;) > > [Dave] Dude. After this, there will be NO question... so be it. hmmm.... [dreaming of a hot italian sausage] -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:38:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BEctSi007997; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:38:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BEctsp007991; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:38:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: Rich Hall Cc: "'DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX '" Subject: Re: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:39:22 -0400 Message-ID: <70lunuo7s3kuji8imdk5ahfao9b5iu6vk4@4ax.com> References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926D0@SERVER1> In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926D0@SERVER1> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8BEcrSi007979 I have to agree with the thought that you put too much gunk into your gas. Anywho, when I had water in my gas tank, I drained the tank fileld it with new gas, put some juice on the battery ( a heavy duty charger) and kept cranking it intil the carbs pumped in new fresh gas. at first it would catch and idle.. give it a little bit of gas it might run sputtering.. give it too much it woudl shut off.. but after time, the old gas ran out of the carbs, the RPM would go higher and higher, until finally it would run correctly. You had to be patient with it. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:40:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BEeESi008042; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:40:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BEeDxr008036; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:40:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <000a01c259a1$fb373060$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:45:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Contrary what I've been told here on the list, DC DMV is apparently now insisting that bikes *do* carry these bletcherous "all in one" stickers, not the month/year plate stickers. Apparently I'm supposed to go to the inspection place and get what is described as a "pouch" for the all-in-one. Are other folks hearing this too? Or is this the latest example of the old runaround, right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing DC gov't charlie foxtrot. Paul in DC < Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BElwSi008429; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:47:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BElwkd008421; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:47:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020911104650.009f0c00@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:47:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: llarson@XXXXXX Subject: Cage Tires Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed BTW, I know it wasn't asked for, but to many local SCCA racers and autocrossers, the best DC area tire shop -- by far -- is Radial Tire, in Silver Spring. Very knowledgeable people, great service, accurate dynamic balancing, excellent prices. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 10:59:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BExOSi008675; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:59:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BExOwP008665; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:59:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7F5B96.9E4130E9@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:04:54 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Wilson CC: dc-cycles list Subject: Re: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga References: <000a01c259a1$fb373060$bb82fea9@palladio1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And this was a surprise? From a government with a plethora of administrative FUs? With a mayor so lame he couldn't even do a 2K signature petition correctly. And he's running against a field that is great fodder for Saturday Night Live. Before DC can extricate themselves from an ongoing disaster, they'll have to clean house and demand that new hires are literate. But then, what would we do for amusement? Bill Paul Wilson wrote: > Contrary what I've been told here on the list, DC DMV is apparently now > insisting that bikes *do* carry these bletcherous "all in one" stickers, not > the month/year plate stickers. Apparently I'm supposed to go to the > inspection place and get what is described as a "pouch" for the all-in-one. > Are other folks hearing this too? Or is this the latest example of the old > runaround, right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing DC gov't > charlie foxtrot. > > Paul in DC < somewhere. Maybe I'll put it on the swingarm so it'll get all dirty and > nasty. Or maybe my bro in Va. won't mind having a couple of bikes come > "move in" with him. Hmmmm.... Just say no? > > 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 11:03:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BF3PSi008923; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:03:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BF3PS1008913; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:03:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <009a01c259a5$382dd980$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" , References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910225924.02bae9a0@pop.east.cox.net> Subject: Re: Proper lock placement Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:06:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 The VFR has a nifty whole in the frame for a U-lock, although it's kind of small for a chain. Most bikes I've seen chained are chained to the wheel. Sure, they could remove a wheel, but unless it's a "lift and load" theft, you've greatly increased the thief's PITA factor, thereby encouraging them to move on other targets. Course they could just cut the chain or cable or defeat the device on the ground the chain is attached to. There's a guy in my 'hood who chains his bike to a tree. Perhaps the best deterent in my book is big and gray and keeps the rain and dirt off too. A cover, which you already have. Out of sight, out of mind. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Meyer" To: "Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: Re: Proper lock placement > At 02:20 PM 9/6/02 -0400, Witold Chrabaszcz - Network & Online Services wrote: > > >I do have a cover for the bike, and today I recieved my 5 foot long > >"Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit" lock. I wanted to know what the best > >way of using this chain is, aside from chaining it to something > >unmovable. I know that with bicycles, you should always chain the frame, > >not the wheels, since wheels are easy to take off. Does the same hold > >true for motorcycles? > > > >How do you guys chain your bike? > > > Check out: > > http://www.lockitt.com/advise.htm > > I don't know where you live, so I don't know if you can install one of > these, but take a look at: > > http://www.lockitt.com/lockdown.htm > > Lockitt.com has both a wealth of great security products, and a wealth of > information. > > Bob Meyer > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 11:21:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BFLGSi009185; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:21:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BFLDnf009175; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:21:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911152109.63510.qmail@web14003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 08:21:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Exhaust Repairs To: Carl Schelin , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <0209110732094H.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Get the size of the pipe and order one from JCWhitney. They've got replacement generic pipes that will probably work for cheap. What experience I have here is limited to a sample size of smaller than 5, but in general it seems that the smaller lengths cost less and make more noise. Leon. --- Carl Schelin wrote: > While I'm searching the 'net and groups, I thought > I'd post the question here > as well. > > Rita's bike, the Yamaha 250 Exciter, has a rusted > out exhaust mainly on a 2" > wide 6" long section on the bottom of the pipe. > > I ordered a replacement from CPS in Woodbridge but > it's on back order. > > I'm going to hunt the 'net to look for ideas. Other > suggestions are a bike > junk yard like the one over by NVCC in Woodbridge. > > Any other suggestions? Are there replacements I can > use from other > years/bikes? Can it be repaired instead of replaced > and where could I get it > done? Currently looks aren't that important. If I > thought it'd pass > inspection, I'd use a couple of hose clamps and put > a piece of metal over the > hole. > > Thanks, > > Carl > -- > Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, > Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) > finger cschelin@XXXXXX for > phone and address > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 11:42:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BFgxSi009733; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:42:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BFgwMV009725; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:42:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Leon Begeman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Exhaust Repairs Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:40:46 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20020911152109.63510.qmail@web14003.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20020911152109.63510.qmail@web14003.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209111140464Q.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'll look into that, thanks. I also sent an e-mail over to another exhaust company. The problem is that it looks like more than just a straight pipe with an exhaust. There's a chrome looking box just behind the engine that looks like it's attached to the exhaust. I bought the service manual ($60 for about 80 pages!) but it's not clear as to what that is. Carl On Wednesday 11 September 2002 11:21, Leon Begeman wrote: > Get the size of the pipe and order one from JCWhitney. > They've got replacement generic pipes that will > probably work for cheap. What experience I have here > is limited to a sample size of smaller than 5, but in > general it seems that the smaller lengths cost less > and make more noise. > > Leon. > -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 12:35:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BGZwSi010352; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:35:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BGZv2k010342; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:35:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7F705C.14727F28@carlparker.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:33:32 -0400 From: Carl Parker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DCCycles Subject: New member intro... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gang, Mah' name is Carl Parker in Northern VA area. Thought I'd drop a quick note to introduce myself and ask a question. I ride a 1982 Honda Magna v45 and have been riding for a little over a year. I got about 5500 miles (I was down and out for a few months) under my belt and loved every hot/cold/rain/sun day of it. I also attended the meeting at Carpool this past Sunday and met Jen and Jason. Looked like a nice turn out and enjoyed seeing all the sport bikes. I think I had the oldest bike there by 10 years. Anywho, ya'll have fun and ride safe. Pax, Carl Parker (not to be confused with the Carl "The Sage" Custer) P.S. What is that rattling sound that Ducatis make when they start up? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 12:39:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BGdTSi010389; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:39:29 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BGdSKZ010384; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:39:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7F712F.275AE4D4@carlparker.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:37:03 -0400 From: Carl Parker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DCCycles Subject: Route to Richmond from DC?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know any good routes from DC yo Richmond? As little slab as possible preferred. Thanks, Carl From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 12:48:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BGmjSi010687; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:48:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BGmjtC010674; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:48:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Carl Parker , DCCycles Subject: Re: New member intro... Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:46:14 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <3D7F705C.14727F28@carlparker.com> In-Reply-To: <3D7F705C.14727F28@carlparker.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209111246144S.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 11 September 2002 12:33, Carl Parker wrote: > Pax, > Carl Parker (not to be confused with the Carl "The Sage" Custer) > Hey, let's not forget "Evil Overlord Carl" also in NOVA. Where are you located? Evil Overlord Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 12:48:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BGmjSi010690; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:48:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BGmj5c010680; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:48:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 11 Sep 2002 16:48:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20020911164844.6789.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New member intro... X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) >Hey Gang, >Mah' name is Carl Parker in Northern VA area. [Dave] Nope. No way. NO MORE CARLS ! NONE ! somebody quick come up with another name to call this latest newbie ! Thought I'd drop a >quick note to introduce myself and ask a question. >I ride a 1982 Honda Magna v45 and have been riding for a little over a >year. I got about 5500 miles (I was down and out for a few months) [Dave] That was my 1st model bike ... I liked it & so did the wife... >Carl Parker (not to be confused with the Carl "The Sage" Custer) [Dave] Welcome to the list. Don't worry about confusion, we won't be calling you Carl... ;-) Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 13:03:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BH3uSi010941; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:03:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BH3uU1010933; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:03:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911170353.96171.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:03:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: New member intro... To: Carl Parker , DCCycles In-Reply-To: <3D7F705C.14727F28@carlparker.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Carl Parker wrote: > Hey Gang, > > Mah' name is Carl Parker in Northern VA area. Thought > I'd drop a > quick note to introduce myself and ask a question. > > I ride a 1982 Honda Magna v45 and have been riding for a > little over a > year. I got about 5500 miles (I was down and out for a > few months) > under my belt and loved every hot/cold/rain/sun day of > it. > > I also attended the meeting at Carpool this past Sunday > and met Jen > and Jason. Looked like a nice turn out and enjoyed > seeing all the > sport bikes. I think I had the oldest bike there by 10 > years. > > Anywho, ya'll have fun and ride safe. > > Pax, > Carl Parker (not to be confused with the Carl "The Sage" > Custer) > > P.S. > What is that rattling sound that Ducatis make when they > start up? that's the dry clutch. carl, you sound really cute. call me. ;) -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 13:07:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BH7vSi011100; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:07:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BH7ve3011094; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:07:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [208.224.173.2] From: "Sanath S" To: carl@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New member intro... Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:06:50 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2002 17:06:51.0001 (UTC) FILETIME=[9EEBEE90:01C259B5] Welcome to the list. >P.S. >What is that rattling sound that Ducatis make when they start up? Its the dry clutch. Some people have vented clutch covers just because they love the sound so much *shrug*... Sanath _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 13:13:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BHDoSi011297; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:13:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BHDnda011287; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:13:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666BB70@XXXXXX> References: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666BB70@XXXXXX> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:13:53 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Erick Singley Subject: Re: tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Carl told me: >Erick expressed "(hoping to finally ride soon after drilling out old, >rusting, frozen brake bleed valve from 74' CB750. Being able to stop seems >like a good thing...)" > >Sniffing around Sears-Monkey-Mall, I saw a 6 point 8mm combination wrench. >It was beneath their usual 12 point selection. >Just the thing for brake bleeding. *sigh* yeah - I suppose I should get a new set after 20 years :) Thanks for reminding me about Trak having sales... I'll have to check that out tonight. Bits of old valve are stuck in the brake block threads - I'm working on it. I'm looking forward to owning a new bike next year, expenses willing. Wrenching is one thing, *always* wrenching is another... > >Carl in Bethesda Not a Carl, Waiting to ride, frustrated Erick From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 13:16:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BHGtSi011597; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:16:55 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BHGtit011584; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:16:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911131428.01c99c80@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:16:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:08 AM 9/11/2002 -0400, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >In a message dated 9/11/2002 9:59:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dan@XXXXXX >writes: > > > Personally, I'd get a bottle of carb cleaner [or starting fluid} and spray > > it in the intake and try to start it. > >NOOOOOOooooooo! > >Carb cleaner can destroy the rubber components in your carbs, especially your >diaphragms, you probably do not want to know how much it would cost to >replace them. >Carb cleaner sprayed into the intakes cannot reach anything that needs to be >cleaned anyhow. >Just say no! > > >John. >PenguinBiker@XXXXXX on another note, I'd suggest you check your fuel filter. If the bike would start, then die/lug under acceleration, it sounds to me like the filter could be clogged just enough to not deliver enough fuel. You mentioned that the bike was run when the tank was nearly empty. It's possible you had crud at the bottom of the tank that got sucked into the filter. The gas dryer could of just loosed up even more sludge and now the filter is so clogged it can't get enough fuel to the carbs. -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 13:17:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BHH4Si011624; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:17:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BHH4S5011618; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:17:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7F79FF.64175FEE@carlparker.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:14:39 -0400 From: Carl Parker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DCCycles Subject: Re: New member intro... References: <20020911170353.96171.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh boy....looks like it going to be one of THOSE lists. ?:^I Carl Carl P.S. Nice to have a few Carl's around. > > > P.S. > > What is that rattling sound that Ducatis make when they > > start up? > > that's the dry clutch. > > carl, you sound really cute. call me. ;) > > -- > tg > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! - We Remember > 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost > http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 13:23:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BHNXSi011916; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:23:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BHNWd3011908; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:23:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911172330.129.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:23:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: New member intro... To: Carl Parker Cc: DCCycles In-Reply-To: <3D7F7971.B763F646@carlparker.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Carl Parker wrote: > Oh boy....looks like it going to be one of THOSE lists. > ?:^I i'm sorry if i offended you. i'm new at this stuff. in all seriousness, welcome. i think you'll find plenty of friendly and helpful folks on this list. > > > P.S. > > > What is that rattling sound that Ducatis make when > they > > > start up? > > > > that's the dry clutch. > > > > carl, you sound really cute. call me. ;) > > > > -- > > tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 13:42:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BHgCSi012262; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:42:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BHgBlW012254; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:42:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:39:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 In-Reply-To: <20020911135618.91327.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020911103438.S13071-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Tom Gimer wrote: > her car is a convertible saab... and it will continue to > look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very pretty > in it) until some aftermarket wheels and low profile tires > are installed. even then there may be questions about my > sexuality. ;) We used to have a '98 Saab 900 Turbo. It had some 16" wheels from the factory. I replaced the stock Michelin Pilots with Dunlop SP9000s. Killer tires for the money. Good wet/dry and reasonable life. Replaced the Saab with an Audi S4. Recently replaced the factory Pirellis with Bridgestone S-03s in the factory 225/45 17 size. VERY happy with the tire. Incredible dry, good wet and it will move in the snow (it's AWD). When the tires on my Benzo wear out (Michelin Pilot Sports - crappy tires on this car, IMO), I'll replace them with the S-03s. If you're shopping for 3 season tires, check out the S-03. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 13:55:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BHt8Si012501; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:55:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BHt8Yw012494; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:55:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7F82EA.D0271EDD@carlparker.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:52:42 -0400 From: Carl Parker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Gimer , DCCycles Subject: Re: New member intro... References: <20020911172330.129.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dude...no offense taken at all. I'm a little bit tougher than that! Coming from my other V4 list one gets a thick skin from tough-love. I was also joking in return but sarcasm is hard to convey over e-mail cuz' most of it is denoted tonally. While I do enjoy and thank people for the warm welcome, I do think this thread has generated enough public posts to warrant it's end so as to not innundate people's busy day with lots of hellos. There's plenty of time to get to know people! My view on sarcasm, even the biting kind: what goes around comes around. :) No worries people, just ride safe. In Anima Pax, Carl Tom Gimer wrote: > --- Carl Parker wrote: > > Oh boy....looks like it going to be one of THOSE lists. > > ?:^I > > i'm sorry if i offended you. i'm new at this stuff. > > in all seriousness, welcome. i think you'll find plenty of > friendly and helpful folks on this list. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 13:58:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BHw2Si012652; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:58:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BHw2Qm012644; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:58:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8a.1e2699b5.2ab0de20@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:57:52 EDT Subject: Re: Gimer's Saab story To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10512 tg proudly states: her car is a convertible saab... and it will continue to look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very pretty in it) let me just state for the record ---- if tom can look 'pretty' in his feminine car --- then i can be cute on my cute purple motorcycle (which i have recently renamed as my purple monster to calm down that anti-cute m/c flock!) :) jtb grilled cheese on the lunch menu From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:04:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BI4KSi012942; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:04:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BI4Kca012934; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:04:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911180418.67737.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:04:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Gimer's Saab story To: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <8a.1e2699b5.2ab0de20@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii jenn: thanks to the helpful suggestion of an anonymous lister, because of my newfound status, my duc may now be considered and referred to as "cute." another bonus for me, now that i'm gay, is that it is perfectly safe for us to ride together. --- Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: > tg proudly states: > her car is a convertible saab... and it will continue to > look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very pretty > in it) > > let me just state for the record ---- if tom can look > 'pretty' in his > feminine car --- then i can be cute on my cute purple > motorcycle (which i > have recently renamed as my purple monster to calm down > that anti-cute m/c > flock!) > > :) > > jtb > grilled cheese on the lunch menu __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:08:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BI8ASi013246; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:08:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BI883h013231; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:08:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 11 Sep 2002 18:08:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20020911180807.1504.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: Gimer X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) JTB asserted: >tg proudly states: >her car is a convertible saab... and it will continue to >look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very pretty >in it) >let me just state for the record ---- if tom can look 'pretty' in his >feminine car [Dave] You misunderstood. Tom can look feminine in his pretty car. Pimper's protestations to the contrary, nobody here has yet called him 'pretty'... --- then i can be cute on my cute purple motorcycle (which i >have recently renamed as my purple monster to calm down that anti-cute m/c [Dave] You're compensating. What's wrong with... Grape Ape ? Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:18:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BIIuSi013464; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:18:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BIIuHN013456; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:18:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C345@wash58.acs.org> From: Jason Picton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:16:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" So far we have.... Purple Monster. Grape Ape. how about purple haze... c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... jason From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:20:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BIKNSi013524; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:20:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BIKN9G013518; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:20:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911182014.11927.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:20:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... To: Jason Picton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C345@wash58.acs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii purple haze is the name of linda tanner's cbr how about purple nurple? --- Jason Picton wrote: > So far we have.... > Purple Monster. > Grape Ape. > > how about > purple haze... > > c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... > > jason __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:24:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BIOPSi013798; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:24:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BIOPNr013788; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:24:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaF2qUMEJTACoubh7Wj56zYtbQ4YSJehfDkq1etbzrWVscKRzpEDcbI3hbmq5YmeG4= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Gimer's Saab story Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:24:21 -0400 Message-ID: <003101c259c0$73a9b590$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <8a.1e2699b5.2ab0de20@aol.com> Importance: Normal jtb wrote: > to calm down that anti-cute m/c flock!) I think the term is "herd", not "flock". Unless they ride Moto Guzzi, then it's a "gaggle". Of course, the noisy dry-clutchers (ducs) *are* a "flock". And, although I know and respect tg (and his dry clutch), I can't ever say I've thought of him as pretty. Although there was that one particular rainy night, a bottle of bourbon, a campsite, and a very small tent.... --jon From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:24:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BIOeSi013824; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:24:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BIOeXW013820; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:24:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911142335.01ceec90@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:24:25 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:16 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: >So far we have.... >Purple Monster. >Grape Ape. >how about >purple haze... >c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... >jason it's a two cylinder right? How about "Two throbbing purple heads" From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:25:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BIPISi013864; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:25:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BIPImc013858; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:25:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 11 Sep 2002 18:25:17 -0000 Message-ID: <20020911182517.7991.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's bike X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: 168.159.1.90 (168.159.1.90) JP prompted: >So far we have.... >Purple Monster. >Grape Ape. >how about >purple haze... >c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... [Dave] Grape Ape is the best, you're just jealous you didn't think of it 1st ;-) Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:29:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BITdSi014247; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:29:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BITdZL014237; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:29:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbOIU36fajuZRcXkMqmV9cm55N0Op8UgE594QHJJWG4nzfPN7FMI7OC8Z7LaNyw/s8= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:29:36 -0400 Message-ID: <003201c259c1$2f1e72c0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020911182014.11927.qmail@web14612.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Violent Violet? Muave Monster? Heliotropic Honda? --jon (into alliteration more than rhyming) -----Tom Gimer wrote: purple haze is the name of linda tanner's cbr how about purple nurple? --- Jason Picton wrote: > So far we have.... > Purple Monster. > Grape Ape. > > how about > purple haze... > > c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... > > jason __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:33:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BIXlSi014296; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:33:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BIXl25014291; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:33:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911183345.51085.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:33:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020911142233.99071.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It could be worse. It could be a VW Cabriolet. That car instantly removes any traces of masculinity from the driver. Keith --- Chris Weaver wrote: > Tom, > > It can't possibly get worse than the ribbing I got > when I purchased a Mazda Miata. The only way I was > able to quell peoples' suspicions once I did that > was > to put a big honkin' roll bar on it and propose > marriage to Sally. Even now there may be a few > doubters, and I'm not even very pretty! :^) > > Chris > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > her car is a convertible saab... and it will > > continue to > > look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very > > pretty > > in it) until some aftermarket wheels and low > profile > > tires > > are installed. even then there may be questions > > about my > > sexuality. ;) > > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! - We Remember > 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost > http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:46:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BIkHSi014848; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:46:17 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BIkD08014838; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:46:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZawosQInMW5bQPnRdDigW+JxlvvZFHx0+YIl7FcTURbBNeO5G58yWUXBmQ4SYcIUY= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: VW hates straight males (was dc-cycles digest) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:46:09 -0400 Message-ID: <003701c259c3$7f3e0160$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020911183345.51085.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal It's not just the Cabriolet, it's the new Beetle, the old Rabbit convertible, and so on. Even the advertising: remember the goofy commercial where the two guys get the stinky couch? I think Dieter ("touch my monkey") is behind this. --jon -----Keith Lamond noted: It could be worse. It could be a VW Cabriolet. That car instantly removes any traces of masculinity from the driver. Keith --- Chris Weaver wrote: > Tom, > > It can't possibly get worse than the ribbing I got > when I purchased a Mazda Miata. The only way I was > able to quell peoples' suspicions once I did that > was > to put a big honkin' roll bar on it and propose > marriage to Sally. Even now there may be a few > doubters, and I'm not even very pretty! :^) > > Chris > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > her car is a convertible saab... and it will > > continue to > > look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very > > pretty > > in it) until some aftermarket wheels and low > profile > > tires > > are installed. even then there may be questions > > about my > > sexuality. ;) > > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! - We Remember > 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost > http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:49:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BInASi014996; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BIn9pX014990; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ00tXVWkkcC0NkcXDk89H9RGj/V+dsftEkeqtM8ivksIK8TMuwlPPW+Iy4Li+wObg= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: VW hates straight males (was dc-cycles digest) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:06 -0400 Message-ID: <003801c259c3$e8bc3b20$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal and I forgot to add: http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/volkswagenrant.html -----Original Message----- From: Jon Strang [mailto:jmstrang@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:46 PM To: DC Cycles (E-mail) Subject: VW hates straight males (was dc-cycles digest) It's not just the Cabriolet, it's the new Beetle, the old Rabbit convertible, and so on. Even the advertising: remember the goofy commercial where the two guys get the stinky couch? I think Dieter ("touch my monkey") is behind this. --jon From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 14:49:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BInKSi015028; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BInKqB015022; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911144840.01cf1bf8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/10/02 In-Reply-To: <20020911183345.51085.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20020911142233.99071.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:33 AM 9/11/2002 -0700, Keith Lamond wrote: >It could be worse. It could be a VW Cabriolet. That >car instantly removes any traces of masculinity from >the driver. to really add the pink frillies, it's got to be a Cab with a rag top. -aki >Keith >--- Chris Weaver wrote: > > Tom, > > > > It can't possibly get worse than the ribbing I got > > when I purchased a Mazda Miata. The only way I was > > able to quell peoples' suspicions once I did that > > was > > to put a big honkin' roll bar on it and propose > > marriage to Sally. Even now there may be a few > > doubters, and I'm not even very pretty! :^) > > > > Chris > > > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > > > her car is a convertible saab... and it will > > > continue to > > > look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very > > > pretty > > > in it) until some aftermarket wheels and low > > profile > > > tires > > > are installed. even then there may be questions > > > about my > > > sexuality. ;) > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Yahoo! - We Remember > > 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost > > http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Yahoo! - We Remember >9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost >http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:05:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJ5FSi015434; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:05:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJ5Evb015426; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:05:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <188.dc9975d.2ab0ede1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:05:05 EDT Subject: Re: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/11/2002 10:21:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dan@XXXXXX writes: John (I) said > > Carb cleaner can destroy the rubber components in your carbs, especially > your > > diaphragms, > how would it get into the diaphrams > if you sprayed it into the intake? If you look at the bottom of your carburetor slides you will see holes (usually two.) This location puts them inside the venturi at the point of greatest vacuum. It is these ports that transfer vacuum up through the slide over the diaphragm "pulling" the slides up. These are open holes through which air/fuel and anything else in the airflow can enter and contaminate the diaphragms. I said: > > Carb cleaner sprayed into the intakes cannot reach anything that needs to > > be cleaned anyhow. You said: > Who said anything about cleaning? Its just good for getting something > started when it can't get fuel Are we talking carburetor cleaner or starter fluid (Ether) I have and no doubt will again use starter fluid to check for a fuel problem, in that you were correct but carburetor cleaner is far nastier stuff, if it has not eaten your diaphragms yet you have been lucky. I have seen many diaphragms utterly melted by people spraying carburetor cleaner into their intakes. "did you use carb cleaner?" is the first question I ask when I see a holed diaphragm. Up to you. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:09:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJ97Si015547; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:09:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJ97sF015541; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:09:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911190859.79138.qmail@web20701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:08:59 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C345@wash58.acs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Barney. 'nough said. __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:13:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJDpSi015830; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:13:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJDobf015819; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:13:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.79.176.65] From: "Marc Washington" To: jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: VW hates straight males (was dc-cycles digest) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:12:43 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Sep 2002 19:12:44.0182 (UTC) FILETIME=[34F7E360:01C259C7] The Mercury Capri convertible is my all time "sensitive" guy fav' Marc Washington 88' Honda Hawk _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:16:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJGBSi016021; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:16:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJGBAo016014; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:16:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911191609.38799.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:16:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Gimer's Saab story To: jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <003101c259c0$73a9b590$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jon Strang wrote: > > And, although I know and respect tg (and his dry clutch), > I can't ever say > I've thought of him as pretty. Although there was that > one particular rainy > night, a bottle of bourbon, a campsite, and a very small > tent.... let's not forget the very small orifice! [note to file: avoid evan williams single barrel bourbon] -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:18:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJIQSi016164; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:18:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJIQad016156; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:18:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:18:22 -0700 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New member intro... Sender: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 65.36.86.136 Further evidence that Gimer is just a cheap hoe. I'm surprised you didn't invite him over for a photo shoot with the tire changer. On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Tom Gimer wrote: > carl, you sound really cute. call me. ;) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:18:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJIqSi016199; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:18:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJIpuk016193; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:18:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:18:43 -0700 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: t_gimer@XXXXXX Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New member intro... Sender: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 65.36.86.136 Further evidence that Gimer is just a cheap hoe. I'm surprised you didn't invite him over for a photo shoot with the tire changer. On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Tom Gimer wrote: > carl, you sound really cute. call me. ;) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:21:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJL1Si016268; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:21:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJL1ZT016254; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:21:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004f01c259c8$508e27a0$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: , References: <20020911182517.7991.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's bike Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:17:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Wait a minute, besides Mongo, in the Air Force I was known as Grape Ape. hmmmm Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's bike > JP prompted: > >So far we have.... > >Purple Monster. > >Grape Ape. > >how about > >purple haze... > >c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... > > [Dave] Grape Ape is the best, you're just jealous you didn't think of it 1st ;-) > > Dave > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Powered by Wild On Web: > Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! > http://www.wildonweb.com > |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| > |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:21:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJL2Si016277; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:21:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJL1vJ016262; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:21:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004e01c259c8$5044c290$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: "Jason Picton" , References: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C345@wash58.acs.org> Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:15:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Somewhere there has to be something about purple people eater. A one headlight, one horn riding purple two seat creature Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Picton" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... > So far we have.... > Purple Monster. > Grape Ape. > > how about > purple haze... > > c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... > > jason > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:27:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJROSi016765; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:27:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJRNLE016755; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:27:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911152633.01c9cc58@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:27:16 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: New member intro... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:46 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: On Wednesday 11 September 2002 12:33, Carl Parker wrote: > Pax, > Carl Parker (not to be confused with the Carl "The Sage" Custer) > >Hey, let's not forget "Evil Overlord Carl" also in NOVA. >Where are you located? >Evil Overlord Carl -- who should not be confused with Aki "Overlord in Training" Damme -aki (not to be confused with Mike or Tom or Bob) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:29:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJT3Si016799; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:29:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJT3Sc016791; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:29:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911152734.01cf6ec8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:28:55 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: New member intro... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:33 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Hey Gang, >Mah' name is Carl Parker in Northern VA area. Thought I'd drop a >quick note to introduce myself and ask a question. >I ride a 1982 Honda Magna v45 and have been riding for a little over a >year. I got about 5500 miles (I was down and out for a few months) >under my belt and loved every hot/cold/rain/sun day of it. ah! Welcome (SAB)MAGgot! I had an 85 700 and an 85 V65 Magna, sold both to make room for my 01 Wide Glide. Nice bikes. >I also attended the meeting at Carpool this past Sunday and met Jen >and Jason. Looked like a nice turn out and enjoyed seeing all the >sport bikes. I think I had the oldest bike there by 10 years. yeah, but look at the age of some of those faces...8-P Anywho, ya'll have fun and ride safe. >we can do both? When did this happen? Did I get the memo? >P.S. >What is that rattling sound that Ducatis make when they start up? Never you mind that sound. Deep down inside, they're just wishing they were a harley. -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:30:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJULSi017052; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:30:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJULaS017046; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:30:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911152921.01cf6ec8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:30:13 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: Aki Damme Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:08 PM 9/11/2002 +0000, you wrote: JTB asserted: >tg proudly states: >her car is a convertible saab... and it will continue to >look a bit on the feminine side (read: i look very pretty >in it) >let me just state for the record ---- if tom can look 'pretty' in his >feminine car >[Dave] You misunderstood. Tom can look feminine in his pretty car. Pimper's protestations to the contrary, nobody here has yet called him 'pretty'... > --- then i can be cute on my cute purple motorcycle (which i >have recently renamed as my purple monster to calm down that anti-cute m/c >[Dave] You're compensating. What's wrong with... Grape Ape ? >Dave ack! That's what my personalized plates are on my "Deep Amethyst Pearl" Durango! GR8P A8P From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:36:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJavSi017215; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:36:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJauA4017205; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:36:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911193654.56317.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:36:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: To: Aki Damme , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911152921.01cf6ec8@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Aki Damme wrote: > >[Dave] You're compensating. What's wrong with... > Grape Ape ? > > >Dave > > ack! That's what my personalized plates are on my "Deep > Amethyst Pearl" > Durango! > > GR8P A8P you may want to re-think that one in your mind's ear the next time the tags are due to be renewed. -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:39:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJdoSi017253; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:39:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJdoXl017245; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:39:50 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911153906.01c9cc58@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:39:42 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <20020911193654.56317.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911152921.01cf6ec8@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:36 PM 9/11/2002 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >--- Aki Damme wrote: > > >[Dave] You're compensating. What's wrong with... > > Grape Ape ? > > > > >Dave > > > > ack! That's what my personalized plates are on my "Deep > > Amethyst Pearl" > > Durango! > > > > GR8P A8P > >you may want to re-think that one in your mind's ear the >next time the tags are due to be renewed. huh? Why? It's been on the truck since '99. I think people think I'm witty. They're always waving at me. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:41:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJfWSi017635; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:41:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJfVW6017629; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:41:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911194129.8094.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:41:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: To: Aki Damme , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911153906.01c9cc58@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii greatp eightp? they're not laughing WITH you, bro. btw, how many fingers were they "waving" with? ;) --- Aki Damme wrote: > At 12:36 PM 9/11/2002 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: > >--- Aki Damme wrote: > > > >[Dave] You're compensating. What's wrong with... > > > Grape Ape ? > > > > > > >Dave > > > > > > ack! That's what my personalized plates are on my > "Deep > > > Amethyst Pearl" > > > Durango! > > > > > > GR8P A8P > > > >you may want to re-think that one in your mind's ear the > >next time the tags are due to be renewed. > > huh? Why? It's been on the truck since '99. I think > people think > I'm witty. They're always waving at me. __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:44:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJiCSi017789; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:44:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJiBnx017779; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:44:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911154252.01cf1bf8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:44:04 -0400 To: Tom Gimer , DC Cycles From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <20020911194129.8094.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911153906.01c9cc58@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:41 PM 9/11/2002 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >greatp eightp? they're not laughing WITH you, bro. > >btw, how many fingers were they "waving" with? ;) every other combination was taken and everyone else had no problem figuring out it was grape ape. But then again, we *do* have a high public school completion ratio in Herndon. ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 15:50:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BJohSi018080; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:50:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BJog3Z018070; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:50:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911195040.87339.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:50:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: To: Aki Damme , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911154252.01cf1bf8@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Aki Damme wrote: > At 12:41 PM 9/11/2002 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: > >greatp eightp? they're not laughing WITH you, bro. > > > >btw, how many fingers were they "waving" with? ;) > > every other combination was taken and everyone else > had no problem figuring out it was grape ape. But then > again, we *do* have a high public school completion > ratio in Herndon. ;-) attarently it is 0/8. ;) -- tg __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 16:00:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BK0pSi018273; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:00:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BK0pL1018265; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:00:51 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 11 Sep 2002 20:00:50 -0000 Message-ID: <20020911200050.9760.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Aki explained his pl8 - >every other combination was taken [Dave] HOLY JEEBUS ! They're ALL gone ? You mean we can no longer get specialized plates because every conceivable combination has been taken... Yowza. So much for my 'DBL TAP' plates, and 'H8 DC' >and everyone else >had no problem figuring out it was grape ape. But then >again, we *do* have a high public school completion >ratio in Herndon. ;-) [Dave] Lotta sex offenders according to VSP website too... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 16:16:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BKGwSi018526; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:16:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BKGwXR018518; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:16:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:16:38 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: t_gimer@XXXXXX, j_picton@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... Message-ID: <6304D0C5.36014BCB.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit How bout Grape Knee-high? ;-) Scooter In a message dated Wed, 11 Sep 2002 1:20:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, t_gimer@XXXXXX writes: > > > purple haze is the name of linda tanner's cbr > > how about purple nurple? > > > --- Jason Picton wrote: > > So far we have.... > > Purple Monster. > > Grape Ape. > > > > how about > > purple haze... > > > > c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... > > > > jason > > > > __________________________________________________ > Yahoo! - We Remember > 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost > http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 16:20:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BKK4Si018681; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:20:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BKK4J5018673; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:20:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:19:42 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: macda@XXXXXX, j_picton@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... Message-ID: <00279FF1.08850987.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Oh....now that is good. ROTFLMAO Scooter In a message dated Wed, 11 Sep 2002 2:15:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, macda@XXXXXX writes: > > > Somewhere there has to be something about purple people > eater. > > A one headlight, one horn riding purple two seat creature > > Scott > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jason Picton" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:16 PM > Subject: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... > > > > So far we have.... > > Purple Monster. > > Grape Ape. > > > > how about > > purple haze... > > > > c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... > > > > jason > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 17:03:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BL3uSi019106; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:03:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BL3rxu019091; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:03:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911170213.01d02468@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:03:45 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Re: In-Reply-To: <20020911200050.9760.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:00 PM 9/11/2002 +0000, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >Aki explained his pl8 - > > >every other combination was taken > >[Dave] HOLY JEEBUS ! They're ALL gone ? You mean we can no longer get >specialized plates because every conceivable combination has been >taken... Yowza. So much for my 'DBL TAP' plates, and 'H8 DC' amazing isn't it? Check out the Va DMV site. You can put in whatever combination you want and reserve it there. My brain aches now. > > > >and everyone else > >had no problem figuring out it was grape ape. But then > >again, we *do* have a high public school completion > >ratio in Herndon. ;-) > >[Dave] Lotta sex offenders according to VSP website too... now *that's* scary..being a parent and all. -aki >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Powered by Wild On Web: >Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! >http://www.wildonweb.com >|Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| >|Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 17:07:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BL7nSi019277; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:07:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BL7nif019271; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:07:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911170512.01cfeec8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:07:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: OT: Interview today! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Well folks, as a lot of you know, I've been hardly working after my company died earlier this year. Today, ironically on 9/11, I had an interview! It looks very promising. It's a Directors position for Computer Associates in Herndon. I guess they were impressed, at least they asked me to come back and meet more people next week. Crossing my fingers and toes...wish me luck. -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 17:29:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BLTVSi019552; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:29:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BLTV2O019542; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 17:29:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020911212928.41056.qmail@web14003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:29:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <6304D0C5.36014BCB.0C9D3659@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's Tracy Horstman's bike. Leon. --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > How bout Grape Knee-high? ;-) __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 18:47:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BMlkSi020224; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:47:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BMlNZ8020209; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:47:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D7FC946.9D5B4463@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 18:52:54 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "S. Russell" CC: Jason Picton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... References: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C345@wash58.acs.org> <004e01c259c8$5044c290$9865fea9@Godzilla> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yipes! You recall a song from 1956? Or was it `55 - `57? Dang, you must be an ol' fart too. Bill "S. Russell" wrote: > Somewhere there has to be something about purple people eater. > > A one headlight, one horn riding purple two seat creature > > Scott > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 19:17:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BNHmSi020730; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:17:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BNHmsW020723; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:17:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:17:38 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... To: Jason Picton Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3D7FCF12.ED6AE345@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C345@wash58.acs.org> Jason Picton wrote: > > So far we have.... > Purple Monster. > Grape Ape. > > how about > purple haze... > > c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... > > jason Just so y'all know beforehand, my wife's lowered purple Concours - Grape Nehi (get it?) - is taken. Horkster -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 19:24:12 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8BNOCSi020893; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:24:12 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8BNOBZp020886; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:24:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00dd01c259ea$48e63160$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: "William J. Huson" Cc: "Jason Picton" , References: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9606C2C345@wash58.acs.org> <004e01c259c8$5044c290$9865fea9@Godzilla> <3D7FC946.9D5B4463@patriot.net> Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:23:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Thanks I think! I am not that old. In December I will be celebrating the 16th anniversary of my 21st birthday. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Huson" To: "S. Russell" Cc: "Jason Picton" ; Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:52 PM Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... > Yipes! You recall a song from 1956? Or was it `55 - `57? Dang, you > must be an ol' fart too. > > Bill > > "S. Russell" wrote: > > > Somewhere there has to be something about purple people eater. > > > > A one headlight, one horn riding purple two seat creature > > > > Scott > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 20:09:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8C09fSi021331; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:09:41 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8C09aoq021312; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:09:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:09:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga From: Jeff Steele To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) Paul: A month or so back, my council member (Adrian Fenty) forwarded me an email from the Director of the DMV saying that motorcycles would still use the small stickers. I suggest sending an email about this issue to your council member. The DMV has two (maybe even more) Liaison Officers to the City Council. I ordered a personalized license plate for my bike back in May. It was supposed to arrive in 6-8 weeks. When it hadn't showed up after 10 weeks, I tried contacting the DMV by phone and email trying to find out where it was. I was completely ignored (multiple calls and emails over a month). However, when I contacted Adrian Fenty, he forwarded my email to the liaison guy who got in touch with me with the status of the plate within 24 hours. I don't think my plate had even been ordered from the supplier until the liaison officer looked into it. At any rate, it is supposed to be here in two weeks. I bet the liaison officer will have better luck getting a straight answer to the sticker question than a mere citizen will. Jeff Steele '99 XLH Sportster 883 Hugger > Contrary what I've been told here on the list, DC DMV is apparently now > insisting that bikes *do* carry these bletcherous "all in one" > stickers, not > the month/year plate stickers. Apparently I'm supposed to go to the > inspection place and get what is described as a "pouch" for the > all-in-one. > Are other folks hearing this too? Or is this the latest example of > the old > runaround, right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing DC gov't > charlie foxtrot. > > Paul in DC < somewhere. Maybe I'll put it on the swingarm so it'll get all dirty > and > nasty. Or maybe my bro in Va. won't mind having a couple of bikes come > "move in" with him. Hmmmm.... Just say no? > > 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 21:16:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8C1GkSi021787; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:16:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8C1GhrH021768; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:16:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:16:34 -0400 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: oil change gone bad Message-ID: <5DAFEBF3.1DAF3261.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i was changing my oil this afternoon. it was a bitch to get the drain plug off. after draining all the oil, i went on to replace the drain plug. i tightened the plug with my hand for the first few turns and started to tighten the drain plug with the wrench. but for some reason the darn thing wouldn't tighten, it kept turning. i take drain bolt off and i see all this metal around the drain bolt. i guess i stripped the drain hole. there aren't any cracks in the oil pan. thank goodness for a new crush washer. i was wondering how do i fix my problem and what are my options? would you use a helicoil? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Sep 11 22:05:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8C25QSi022132; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:05:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8C25Pc1022124; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:05:25 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Dave Yates" To: Subject: RE: Interview today! Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:05:36 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c25a00$f8b7f360$2b84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911170512.01cfeec8@pop.east.cox.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Aki, showing signs of desperation, bragged - Well folks, as a lot of you know, I've been hardly working after my company died earlier this year. Today, ironically on 9/11, I had an interview! It looks very promising. It's a Directors position for Computer Associates in Herndon. I guess they were impressed, at least they asked me to come back and meet more people next week. [Dave] If I wished you good luck, and it were to come true, you would NOT get the position. I have NEVER met a happy CA former employee, and I know over a dozen. CA is one of the, if not the slimiest, dirtiest, underhanded, employee abusive companies in existence, you would literally do your family better working a 3rd world coal mine. That said, I've used, & supported some of their products (on mainframes). Only 1 or 2 sucked, the rest were top notch. If you land the job, understand, it's only temporary... Good luck if you want it... Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 06:17:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CAHPSi024791; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 06:17:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CAHLhc024772; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 06:17:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Aki Damme , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: OT: Interview today! Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 06:15:09 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911170512.01cfeec8@pop.east.cox.net> In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911170512.01cfeec8@pop.east.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209120615094V.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 11 September 2002 17:07, Aki Damme wrote: > Well folks, as a lot of you know, I've been hardly working after my company > died earlier this year. Today, ironically on 9/11, I had an interview! > > It looks very promising. It's a Directors position for Computer Associates > in Herndon. I guess they were impressed, at least they asked me to come > back and meet more people next week. > > Crossing my fingers and toes...wish me luck. > Good luck. When I looked at Matthew Patton's resume, I noted CA at the top. You might want to touch base. It'd be interesting to have MP leaving and you coming in :-) > -aki Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 06:51:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CApJSi025068; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 06:51:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CApJ7s025063; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 06:51:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200209121102.g8CB2lR37458@XXXXXX> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 06:51:15 -0400 From: "Docs@Shore" X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60c) Personal Reply-To: "Docs@Shore" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <86239297453.20020912065115@shore.net> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... Resent-from: "Docs@Shore" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wednesday, September 11, 2002, 2:16:26 PM, Jason wrote: JP> So far we have.... JP> Purple Monster. JP> Grape Ape. JP> how about JP> purple haze... JP> c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... Plum Crazy ;-) Doc <1984 FXR, 1973 XLCH in basket> -- State Officer for Virginia Loudoun County, VA Chapter 156, Southern Cruisers Riding Club #156148 http://www.southerncruisers.net Southern Cruisers, National http://www.geocities.com/scruisers_loudoun/ Chapter 156, VA Website http://www.docsharleypages.com Doc's Harley Pages From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 07:42:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CBgdSi025324; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:42:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CBgI27025305; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:42:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912073634.01e1a1a0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:42:11 -0400 To: From: Aki Damme Subject: RE: Interview today! In-Reply-To: <000501c25a00$f8b7f360$2b84c0cf@nih.gov> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020911170512.01cfeec8@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:05 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, Dave Yates wrote: >Aki, showing signs of desperation, bragged - > >Well folks, as a lot of you know, I've been hardly working after my >company >died earlier this year. Today, ironically on 9/11, I had an interview! > >It looks very promising. It's a Directors position for Computer >Associates in >Herndon. I guess they were impressed, at least they asked me to come >back and meet more people next week. > >[Dave] If I wished you good luck, and it were to come true, you would >NOT get the position. I have NEVER met a happy CA former employee, and >I know over a dozen. CA is one of the, if not the slimiest, dirtiest, >underhanded, employee abusive companies in existence, you would >literally do your family better working a 3rd world coal mine. That >said, I've used, & supported some of their products (on mainframes). >Only 1 or 2 sucked, the rest were top notch. If you land the job, >understand, it's only temporary... interesting....then again, speaking to *former* employees is rarely a good source for an objective opinion. ;-) I know several employees that work at CA and they seem to like the company. Maybe it has to do with the department they work for. I certainly don't want anything to do with sales since that is *really* high pressure and it just doesn't fit my personality. This position is fairly new, and deals directly with existing clients, a CRM so to speak however, I'm a level removed as the CRM's would report to me. That is, if I get hired. Needless to say, it certainly doesn't have to be a career decision and I'm continuing to look at other opportunities as well. Whatever jells first will be what I'll go for and if it doesn't work out, I'll continue to look. But at least I'll have a paycheck coming in and looking for a job in THAT situation is *much* more preferred than my current. -aki >Good luck if you want it... > > > >Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 08:00:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CC0oSi025444; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:00:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CC0T4V025425; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:00:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912075521.01e2ca08@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:00:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: oil change gone bad In-Reply-To: <5DAFEBF3.1DAF3261.001912B6@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:16 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, STmaven@XXXXXX wrote: >i was changing my oil this afternoon. it was a bitch to get the drain plug >off. after draining all the oil, i went on to replace the drain plug. i >tightened the plug with my hand for the first few turns and started to >tighten the drain plug with the wrench. but for some reason the darn thing >wouldn't tighten, it kept turning. i take drain bolt off and i see all >this metal around the drain bolt. i guess i stripped the drain hole. there >aren't any cracks in the oil pan. thank goodness for a new crush washer. i >was wondering how do i fix my problem and what are my options? would you >use a helicoil? sounds like the drain plug was originally cross threaded. I don't remember what bike you said you had. New? Used? A lot of auto parts stores stock self tapping oil drain plugs for cars. The difference is minor (at least for Harleys they aren't). Find one that is slightly larger than the existing plug and buy it. Take it home and follow the directions. Basically, screw it in a quarter inch or so and back it out, then repeat until it has recut new threads. I usually use teflon tape around the threads before reinserting the drain plug for good measure. Pretty straight forward. I wouldn't use a helicoil since this method is much more straight forward and less messy. cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 08:10:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CCAqSi025533; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:10:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CCAeaU025514; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:10:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912080854.01e582f0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:10:32 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:09 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, Jeff Steele wrote: >Paul: > >A month or so back, my council member (Adrian Fenty) forwarded me an email >from the Director of the DMV saying that motorcycles would still use the >small stickers. I suggest sending an email about this issue to your >council member. The DMV has two (maybe even more) Liaison Officers to the >City Council. I ordered a personalized license plate for my bike back in >May. It was supposed to arrive in 6-8 weeks. When it hadn't showed up >after 10 weeks, I tried contacting the DMV by phone and email trying to >find out where it was. I was completely ignored (multiple calls and emails >over a month). However, when I contacted Adrian Fenty, he forwarded my >email to the liaison guy who got in touch with me with the status of the >plate within 24 hours. I don't think my plate had even been ordered from >the supplier until the liaison officer looked into it. At any rate, it is >supposed to be here in two weeks. I bet the liaison officer will have >better luck getting a straight answer to the sticker question than a mere >citizen will. > >Jeff Steele >'99 XLH Sportster 883 Hugger ye gad Jeff, how long is it *supposed* to take for a personalized plate in DC? Typically in Va. a week, two at the most. -aki (who's now seriously looking at OTHER plates for his Durango after being severely ridiculed on this list) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 08:14:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CCE5Si025563; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:14:05 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CCE5bs025558; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:14:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D808655.6E27CA1B@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:19:33 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aki Damme CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912080854.01e582f0@pop.east.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aki Damme wrote: > At 08:09 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, Jeff Steele wrote: > >Paul: > > > >A month or so back, my council member (Adrian Fenty) forwarded me an email > >from the Director of the DMV saying that motorcycles would still use the > >small stickers. I suggest sending an email about this issue to your > >council member. The DMV has two (maybe even more) Liaison Officers to the > >City Council. I ordered a personalized license plate for my bike back in > >May. It was supposed to arrive in 6-8 weeks. When it hadn't showed up > >after 10 weeks, I tried contacting the DMV by phone and email trying to > >find out where it was. I was completely ignored (multiple calls and emails > >over a month). However, when I contacted Adrian Fenty, he forwarded my > >email to the liaison guy who got in touch with me with the status of the > >plate within 24 hours. I don't think my plate had even been ordered from > >the supplier until the liaison officer looked into it. At any rate, it is > >supposed to be here in two weeks. I bet the liaison officer will have > >better luck getting a straight answer to the sticker question than a mere > >citizen will. > > > >Jeff Steele > >'99 XLH Sportster 883 Hugger > > ye gad Jeff, how long is it *supposed* to take for a personalized plate in > DC? Typically in Va. a week, two at the most. > > -aki (who's now seriously looking at OTHER plates for his Durango after > being severely ridiculed on this list) Or you could take the easy, cheap way out. Keep the extra $10 and hang a generic tag on your cage/scoot. I won't even kick in for "decorator" tags. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 08:17:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CCHBSi025613; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:17:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CCHAug025604; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:17:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D80870E.FC6B20AC@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:22:39 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aki Damme CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: oil change gone bad References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912075521.01e2ca08@pop.east.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aki Damme wrote: > At 09:16 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, STmaven@XXXXXX wrote: > >i was changing my oil this afternoon. it was a bitch to get the drain plug > >off. after draining all the oil, i went on to replace the drain plug. i > >tightened the plug with my hand for the first few turns and started to > >tighten the drain plug with the wrench. but for some reason the darn thing > >wouldn't tighten, it kept turning. i take drain bolt off and i see all > >this metal around the drain bolt. i guess i stripped the drain hole. there > >aren't any cracks in the oil pan. thank goodness for a new crush washer. i > >was wondering how do i fix my problem and what are my options? would you > >use a helicoil? > > sounds like the drain plug was originally cross threaded. I don't remember > what bike you said you had. New? Used? > > A lot of auto parts stores stock self tapping oil drain plugs for > cars. The difference is minor (at least for Harleys they aren't). > Find one that is slightly larger than the existing plug and buy it. Take it > home and follow the directions. Basically, screw > it in a quarter inch or so and back it out, then repeat until it has recut > new threads. I usually use teflon tape around the threads > before reinserting the drain plug for good measure. > > Pretty straight forward. I wouldn't use a helicoil since this method is > much more straight forward and less messy. > > cheers, > -aki aki is right, a self-tapper would be easier than a helicoil. But being a masochist, I'd go for the helicoil. Another quick & dirty fix is a plug. Hey, no joke, one of those marine style screw down to expand plugs works great! Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 08:17:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CCHnSi025651; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:17:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CCHnbE025645; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:17:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912081708.01e7d280@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:17:41 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:19 AM 9/12/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Or you could take the easy, cheap way out. Keep the extra $10 and hang a >generic tag on your cage/scoot. I won't even kick in for "decorator" tags. >Bill bah...I gotta have personalized tags...have had one on my cages/scoots as far back as I can remember. It's kinda like me marking my ride without all the messy cleanup. ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 08:18:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CCIISi025689; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:18:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CCIIhv025683; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:18:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <35.2cbcf897.2ab1dfff@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:18:07 EDT Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 jtb> Purple Monster. dave> Grape Ape. JP> purple haze... (already taken -- linda tanner) aki>"Two throbbing purple heads" (i cant believe i actually included this!!) scott>purple people eater. mp>Barney jon>Violent Violet? jon>Muave Monster? jon>Heliotropic Honda? tg>purple nurple scooter>Grape Knee-high (already taken -- tracy horstman) doc>Plum Crazy so this is what happens when im at work during the day? :) am i the one who gets to pick or do you have more suggestions? "pickmepickmepickme" (quoting donkey from shrek right there) ill come back home at lunch --- if you have more suggestions, post 'em then ill pick! i already have one in mind tho! (sorry aki --its not yours!) cya jenn From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 08:22:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CCMSSi025757; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:22:28 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CCMRin025748; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:22:27 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912082132.01e7c820@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:22:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: oil change gone bad In-Reply-To: <3D80870E.FC6B20AC@patriot.net> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912075521.01e2ca08@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:22 AM 9/12/2002 -0400, William J. Huson wrote: >aki is right, a self-tapper would be easier than a helicoil. But being a >masochist, I'd go for the helicoil. Another quick & dirty fix is a >plug. Hey, >no joke, one of those marine style screw down to expand plugs works great! > >Bill yeah! those rubber plugs with the little snap down handle thingy that you find in the drain holes on row boats! Or, one of those rubber wine cork bottle plugs would work too. Just don't catch the release handle on anything. ;-) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 08:23:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CCNZSi025794; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:23:35 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CCNZqv025786; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:23:35 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912082250.00b68078@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:23:27 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... In-Reply-To: <35.2cbcf897.2ab1dfff@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:18 AM 9/12/2002 -0400, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX wrote: >jtb> Purple Monster. >dave> Grape Ape. >JP> purple haze... (already taken -- linda tanner) >aki>"Two throbbing purple heads" (i cant believe i actually included this!!) >scott>purple people eater. >mp>Barney >jon>Violent Violet? >jon>Muave Monster? >jon>Heliotropic Honda? >tg>purple nurple >scooter>Grape Knee-high (already taken -- tracy horstman) >doc>Plum Crazy > >so this is what happens when im at work during the day? :) am i the one who >gets to pick or do you have more suggestions? "pickmepickmepickme" (quoting >donkey from shrek right there) > >ill come back home at lunch --- if you have more suggestions, post 'em then >ill pick! i already have one in mind tho! (sorry aki --its not yours!) > >cya >jenn DAMN! And I was so sure you would! 8-P From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 09:20:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CDKPSi026212; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:20:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CDKOQv026199; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:20:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYcVoe61FeNPq08qeAmDam247DdB45ySkvDDaI8hbJro1zZpa6cwNS3r3ZKYbIIIO8= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: the sky is falling ( was RE: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:20:21 -0400 Message-ID: <002d01c25a5f$25ccffe0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912080854.01e582f0@pop.east.cox.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal aki wrote: > -aki (who's now seriously looking at OTHER plates for his Durango after > being severely ridiculed on this list) Ahhh, sheesh, aki, if we all quit doing things because of the ridicule we get on this list, the world would be upside down: -chuck would be without tg, tg would be without chuck. They'd both drink themselves to solitary deaths in nearly identical dark, smoky barrooms on the opposite sides of the metro area, never realizing the depth of their interconnection. -jtb would quit trolling for desperate guys (who would all commit suicide when they stopped getting her attention). One of them, who she would have later met at Bike Night, would now never marry her. Neither would have a chance to live happily ever after. -Bill Huson would get a hooligan-ed out nekkid GSXR1000, forsake all that is MSF, and make a "Hooligan Huson" stunt video. It'd sell a gazillion copies, and he'd retire on his own Caribbean island. Where he would perform strange genetic experiments on unsuspecting people and beasts. -the Carls would change their names, all to "Darryl". The'd work for a kindly ex-psychologist turned inn keeper in New Hampshire (or was it Vermont), and perform minor fix-it tasks and provide easy laughs. -I'd quit riding motorcycles and perhaps just stop breathing, too. I'd also learn that no one appreciates these long rambling posts, stop posting, get more work done, and become president of the company. -Patti would be a brunette on the outside, and would be tolerant of 18 yo pissants who think they discovered pink/green hair and invented punk rock. -Horkster would have chain drive *and would like it.* -We'd all agree that the 2nd amendment does allow for the unrestricted ownership of any armament, and we'd agree that a constitutional amendment is the only correct way to restrict that right. Then we'd pass one that we all agree on, and it would be reasonable given the current technology. -Wayne would trade in the Eye Abuser for a Segway, and only drive white cars. -John (penguin) would use carb cleaner on diaphragms (but not CV carb diaphragms) and have 23 kids. All would live in abject poverty. -Sean J. would be a physicist and would discover the origins of the universe, causing every major religion to COMEX JIHADEX, thus beginning the Armageddon as prophesized in some Holy Book or other out there. -Witold would have a 1972 Honda CB350 and, due to overconfidence, would wad it up on 211 while passing an R6 on the inside, taking out a certain individual who would have later become the Second Savior, who now won't Savior us from above mentioned Armageddon. -"Motopsychol" Danny would take Prozac and become Calm, Cool, and Collected Danny. The only thing he'd ride would be a porch swing, and only at responsible swing angles. He'll write a book demonstrating how humanity can live in harmony, putting an eventual end to WWIII (see above)...and saving man- (and womyn-) kind at the last instant. -Matt would not have the pleasure of his butt plug and would have to resort to other modes of stimulation . -We'd all agree that rear brakes are useful in slickery situations and cruisers, but pointless on excellent (racetrack) pavement under hard, near-stoppy situations. So, aki, keep your plates so that all stays right with the universe. --jon From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 09:25:37 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CDPbSi026255; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:25:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CDPanT026249; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:25:36 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912092331.01ed02d0@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:25:28 -0400 To: From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: the sky is falling ( was RE: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga) In-Reply-To: <002d01c25a5f$25ccffe0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912080854.01e582f0@pop.east.cox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:20 AM 9/12/2002 -0400, Jon Strang wrote: >aki wrote: > > -aki (who's now seriously looking at OTHER plates for his Durango after > > being severely ridiculed on this list) > >Ahhh, sheesh, aki, if we all quit doing things because of the ridicule we >get on this list, the world would be upside down: > -chuck would be without tg, tg would be without chuck. They'd > both drink >themselves to solitary deaths in nearly identical dark, smoky barrooms on >the opposite sides of the metro area, never realizing the depth of their >interconnection. > -jtb would quit trolling for desperate guys (who would all commit > suicide >when they stopped getting her attention). One of them, who she would have >later met at Bike Night, would now never marry her. Neither would have a >chance to live happily ever after. > -Bill Huson would get a hooligan-ed out nekkid GSXR1000, forsake > all that >is MSF, and make a "Hooligan Huson" stunt video. It'd sell a gazillion >copies, and he'd retire on his own Caribbean island. Where he would perform >strange genetic experiments on unsuspecting people and beasts. > -the Carls would change their names, all to "Darryl". The'd work > for a >kindly ex-psychologist turned inn keeper in New Hampshire (or was it >Vermont), and perform minor fix-it tasks and provide easy laughs. > -I'd quit riding motorcycles and perhaps just stop breathing, > too. I'd >also learn that no one appreciates these long rambling posts, stop posting, >get more work done, and become president of the company. > -Patti would be a brunette on the outside, and would be tolerant > of 18 yo >pissants who think they discovered pink/green hair and invented punk rock. > -Horkster would have chain drive *and would like it.* > -We'd all agree that the 2nd amendment does allow for the > unrestricted >ownership of any armament, and we'd agree that a constitutional amendment is >the only correct way to restrict that right. Then we'd pass one that we all >agree on, and it would be reasonable given the current technology. > -Wayne would trade in the Eye Abuser for a Segway, and only drive > white >cars. > -John (penguin) would use carb cleaner on diaphragms (but not CV carb >diaphragms) and have 23 kids. All would live in abject poverty. > -Sean J. would be a physicist and would discover the origins of the >universe, causing every major religion to COMEX JIHADEX, thus beginning the >Armageddon as prophesized in some Holy Book or other out there. > -Witold would have a 1972 Honda CB350 and, due to overconfidence, > would wad >it up on 211 while passing an R6 on the inside, taking out a certain >individual who would have later become the Second Savior, who now won't >Savior us from above mentioned Armageddon. > -"Motopsychol" Danny would take Prozac and become Calm, Cool, and > Collected >Danny. The only thing he'd ride would be a porch swing, and only at >responsible swing angles. He'll write a book demonstrating how humanity can >live in harmony, putting an eventual end to WWIII (see above)...and saving >man- (and womyn-) kind at the last instant. > -Matt would not have the pleasure of his butt plug and would have > to resort >to other modes of stimulation . > -We'd all agree that rear brakes are useful in slickery > situations and >cruisers, but pointless on excellent (racetrack) pavement under hard, >near-stoppy situations. > >So, aki, keep your plates so that all stays right with the universe. > >--jon damn, Jon, you've made it all so clear to me now! Does this mean I should continue to use synthetic oil? The universe is *so* confusing and I feel like such an insignificant speck in the grand scheme of things.... 8-P From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 09:33:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CDXPSi026349; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:33:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CDXOqf026340; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:33:24 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVYOaAmzbysu0hUhWzSrqag0lqXrWYZz3OAZQkZUrVb5dOWlvzQyE9YYVQwU7OphgOk= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: the sky is falling ( was RE: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:33:21 -0400 Message-ID: <003401c25a60$f71453e0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912092331.01ed02d0@pop.east.cox.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal No, it makes your clutch slip. F- anyone who says different. -----Aki queried: damn, Jon, you've made it all so clear to me now! Does this mean I should continue to use synthetic oil? The universe is *so* confusing and I feel like such an insignificant speck in the grand scheme of things.... 8-P From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 09:37:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CDbDSi026412; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:37:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CDbD2S026406; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:37:13 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00c901c25a62$59146980$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: , "Aki Damme" References: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912080854.01e582f0@pop.east.cox.net> Subject: Re: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:42:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aki Damme" > At 08:09 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, Jeff Steele lamented: > >A month or so back, my council member (Adrian Fenty) forwarded me an email > >from the Director of the DMV saying that motorcycles would still use the > >small stickers. I suggest sending an email about this issue to your > >council member. The DMV has two (maybe even more) Liaison Officers to the > >City Council. I ordered a personalized license plate for my bike back in > >May. It was supposed to arrive in 6-8 weeks. When it hadn't showed up > >after 10 weeks... > > > >Jeff Steele > >'99 XLH Sportster 883 Hugger > > > ye gad Jeff, how long is it *supposed* to take for a personalized plate in > DC? Typically in Va. a week, two at the most. > > Yeah, you should see the fees involved for such "service." I think it's $60 at first, then an extra $20 a year. Vanity has a high price. Good news is there's not a lot of competition for your favorite letter/number combos. It's all contracted out now that the Lorton License Plate Academy is closed. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 09:42:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CDglSi026474; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:42:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CDglMo026467; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:42:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912094150.023737c0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:42:43 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: MC Humor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed A friend passed this on to me and I couldn't resist. ftp://ftp.troutman.org/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg I'm glad I don't live next door to Laura anymore. She can't go throw a brick through my window to get back at me ;-) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 09:44:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CDiISi026518; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:44:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CDiIhO026513; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:44:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Michael H. Moore" To: Subject: new to area Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:54:09 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal X-Apparently-From: MWalkerHound@XXXXXX Hey all! I just moved to MD a few weeks ago, and I don't know what the good routes are. I was wondering if anyone could take me out and show me around on some fun rides. Thanks, Mike From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 09:52:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CDqhSi026640; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:52:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CDqh7U026635; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:52:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: MC Humor Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:50:31 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912094150.023737c0@mail.wheatintl.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912094150.023737c0@mail.wheatintl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02091209503155.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 12 September 2002 09:42, Troutman wrote: > A friend passed this on to me and I couldn't resist. > > ftp://ftp.troutman.org/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg > > I'm glad I don't live next door to Laura anymore. She can't go throw a > brick through my window to get back at me ;-) > bofh: ftp ftp.troutman.org Connected to www.troutman.org 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection ftp> quit bofh: -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 09:56:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CDuuSi026702; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:56:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CDuuT4026696; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:56:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 12 Sep 2002 13:56:54 -0000 Message-ID: <20020912135654.5586.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: new to area X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) > Hey all! I just moved to MD a few weeks ago, and I don't know what the >good routes are [Dave] WHERE in MD ? Welcome to the area & list. Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 09:58:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CDwASi026750; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:58:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CDw9PR026741; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:58:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: MC Humor Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:55:51 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912094150.023737c0@mail.wheatintl.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912094150.023737c0@mail.wheatintl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02091209555156.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 12 September 2002 09:42, Troutman wrote: > A friend passed this on to me and I couldn't resist. > > ftp://ftp.troutman.org/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg > > I'm glad I don't live next door to Laura anymore. She can't go throw a > brick through my window to get back at me ;-) > Cool! And http://www.troutman.org/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg jumps me to http://www.stopanimaltests.com Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 10:04:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CE4WSi026824; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:04:32 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CE4Wrb026817; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:04:32 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912100204.0234a878@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:04:28 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: MC Humor In-Reply-To: <02091209555156.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912094150.023737c0@mail.wheatintl.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020912094150.023737c0@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sorry guys. An Italian group got ahold of my VFR PDFs and sucked all of my bandwidth. All they had was my ftp address, so I turned off certain ftp a few weeks ago. Last night this one got hit over 500 times : http://www.troutman.org/ftp/pub/motorcycle/videos/T2-owLG.mpeg A constant 600Kb stream for 4 hours. Yeesh. The URL should have been : http://www.troutman.org/ftp/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg At 09:55 AM 9/12/2002, Carl Schelin wrote: >Cool! And http://www.troutman.org/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg jumps me >to http://www.stopanimaltests.com ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 10:14:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CEENSi026917; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:14:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CEENFI026908; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:14:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Michael H. Moore" To: Subject: RE: new to area Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:24:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20020912135654.5586.qmail@server445.gisol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal X-Apparently-From: MWalkerHound@XXXXXX I live in Potomac (just a few min from rockville and bethesda) mike -----Original Message----- From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:57 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: new to area > Hey all! I just moved to MD a few weeks ago, and I don't know what the >good routes are [Dave] WHERE in MD ? Welcome to the area & list. Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 10:16:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CEGLSi026961; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:16:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CEGLY4026953; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:16:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: MC Humor Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:14:10 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912094150.023737c0@mail.wheatintl.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20020912100204.0234a878@mail.troutman.org> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912100204.0234a878@mail.troutman.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02091210141059.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 12 September 2002 10:04, Troutman wrote: > Sorry guys. An Italian group got ahold of my VFR PDFs and sucked all of my > bandwidth. All they had was my ftp address, so I turned off certain ftp a > few weeks ago. > > Last night this one got hit over 500 times : > > http://www.troutman.org/ftp/pub/motorcycle/videos/T2-owLG.mpeg > > A constant 600Kb stream for 4 hours. Yeesh. > > The URL should have been : > > http://www.troutman.org/ftp/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg > Hmm, something wacky then. This goes to the same stopanimaltests site. > At 09:55 AM 9/12/2002, Carl Schelin wrote: > >Cool! And http://www.troutman.org/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg jumps > > me to http://www.stopanimaltests.com > -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 10:24:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CEOhSi027087; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:24:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CEOMTS027068; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:24:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:24:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: MC Humor In-Reply-To: <02091210141059.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Carl Schelin wrote: > Hmm, something wacky then. This goes to the same stopanimaltests site. I've put a copy up at: http://home.uchicago.edu/~fish/images/harley-for-her.jpg I'll delete it in a day or two, though. Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 10:35:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CEZaSi027294; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:35:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CEZFfv027167; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:35:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020912143513.43782.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 07:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: new to area To: mhmoore@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1. head west to the mountains of west virginia.... perhaps some of the best riding in the country within 2-3 hours from your home. 2. for local stints, try the following montgomery county roads: ijamsville rd (and that whole area); thurston rd; clarksburg rd.; mcarthur blvd. frederick, montgomery and howard county have some decent roads.... looks for large hills/mountains and cross 'em... --- "Michael H. Moore" wrote: > > I live in Potomac (just a few min from rockville and > bethesda) > > mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 9:57 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: new to area > > > > Hey all! I just moved to MD a few weeks ago, and I > don't know what the > >good routes are > > [Dave] WHERE in MD ? Welcome to the area & list. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 10:47:24 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CElOSi027443; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:47:24 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CEl4Sd027424; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:47:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:44:11 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: docs@XXXXXX|, docs@XXXXXX ("Docs@Shore"), dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hmm name JTB's Bike.... Message-ID: <198602FD.493870DA.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit OK. Since Grape Nehi was already taken, even though I spelled my submission "Knee-high", let's try these: The Grape Escape Grape Crush Purple Power Mighty Morphin Purple Power Ranger Grape Nut Pre-Wine Scooter In a message dated Thu, 12 Sep 2002 5:51:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, docs@XXXXXX writes: > > > Wednesday, September 11, 2002, 2:16:26 PM, Jason wrote: > > JP> So far we have.... > JP> Purple Monster. > JP> Grape Ape. > > JP> how about > JP> purple haze... > > JP> c'mon I am sure we can come up with more names......... > > Plum Crazy ;-) > > Doc <1984 FXR, 1973 XLCH in basket> > -- > State Officer for Virginia > Loudoun County, VA Chapter 156, Southern Cruisers Riding Club #156148 > http://www.southerncruisers.net Southern Cruisers, National > http://www.geocities.com/scruisers_loudoun/ Chapter 156, VA Website > http://www.docsharleypages.com > Doc's Harley Pages From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 10:48:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CEmNSi027481; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:48:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CEm2oN027462; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:48:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 12 Sep 2002 14:48:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20020912144801.19402.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: new to area X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Mike asked for ride info - >I live in Potomac (just a few min from rockville and bethesda) >mike [Dave] http://www.dccycles.com/ click on 'ride sheets' ... Harpers Ferry isn't a bad trip... HTH Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 10:57:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CEvhSi027574; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:57:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CEvNRf027555; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:57:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:57:52 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: jmstrang@XXXXXX|, jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: the sky is falling ( was RE: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga) Message-ID: <106580C6.05392238.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Hi. I'm Larry. This is my brother Daryl. This is my other brother Daryl." ;-) And, it was Vermont. :-) Scooter In a message dated Thu, 12 Sep 2002 8:20:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, jmstrang@XXXXXX writes: > > > > aki wrote: > > -aki (who's now seriously looking at OTHER plates for his Durango after > > being severely ridiculed on this list) > > Ahhh, sheesh, aki, if we all quit doing things because of the ridicule we > get on this list, the world would be upside down: > -chuck would be without tg, tg would be without chuck. They'd both drink > themselves to solitary deaths in nearly identical dark, smoky barrooms on > the opposite sides of the metro area, never realizing the depth of their > interconnection. > -jtb would quit trolling for desperate guys (who would all commit suicide > when they stopped getting her attention). One of them, who she would have > later met at Bike Night, would now never marry her. Neither would have a > chance to live happily ever after. > -Bill Huson would get a hooligan-ed out nekkid GSXR1000, forsake all that > is MSF, and make a "Hooligan Huson" stunt video. It'd sell a gazillion > copies, and he'd retire on his own Caribbean island. Where he would perform > strange genetic experiments on unsuspecting people and beasts. > -the Carls would change their names, all to "Darryl". The'd work for a > kindly ex-psychologist turned inn keeper in New Hampshire (or was it > Vermont), and perform minor fix-it tasks and provide easy laughs. > -I'd quit riding motorcycles and perhaps just stop breathing, too. I'd > also learn that no one appreciates these long rambling posts, stop posting, > get more work done, and become president of the company. > -Patti would be a brunette on the outside, and would be tolerant of 18 yo > pissants who think they discovered pink/green hair and invented punk rock. > -Horkster would have chain drive *and would like it.* > -We'd all agree that the 2nd amendment does allow for the unrestricted > ownership of any armament, and we'd agree that a constitutional amendment is > the only correct way to restrict that right. Then we'd pass one that we all > agree on, and it would be reasonable given the current technology. > -Wayne would trade in the Eye Abuser for a Segway, and only drive white > cars. > -John (penguin) would use carb cleaner on diaphragms (but not CV carb > diaphragms) and have 23 kids. All would live in abject poverty. > -Sean J. would be a physicist and would discover the origins of the > universe, causing every major religion to COMEX JIHADEX, thus beginning the > Armageddon as prophesized in some Holy Book or other out there. > -Witold would have a 1972 Honda CB350 and, due to overconfidence, would wad > it up on 211 while passing an R6 on the inside, taking out a certain > individual who would have later become the Second Savior, who now won't > Savior us from above mentioned Armageddon. > -"Motopsychol" Danny would take Prozac and become Calm, Cool, and Collected > Danny. The only thing he'd ride would be a porch swing, and only at > responsible swing angles. He'll write a book demonstrating how humanity can > live in harmony, putting an eventual end to WWIII (see above)...and saving > man- (and womyn-) kind at the last instant. > -Matt would not have the pleasure of his butt plug and would have to resort > to other modes of stimulation . > -We'd all agree that rear brakes are useful in slickery situations and > cruisers, but pointless on excellent (racetrack) pavement under hard, > near-stoppy situations. > > So, aki, keep your plates so that all stays right with the > universe. > > --jon From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 11:02:14 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CF2ESi027635; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:02:14 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CF2EUl027629; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:02:14 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:04:06 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: MC Humor Message-ID: <6771D265.4760BCEB.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just because Laura doesn't live next to you anymore doesn't mean she still can't come over and throw a brick through your window. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Thu, 12 Sep 2002 9:04:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: > > > Sorry guys. An Italian group got ahold of my VFR PDFs and sucked all of my > bandwidth. All they had was my ftp address, so I turned off certain ftp a > few weeks ago. > > Last night this one got hit over 500 times : > > http://www.troutman.org/ftp/pub/motorcycle/videos/T2-owLG.mpeg > > A constant 600Kb stream for 4 hours. Yeesh. > > The URL should have been : > > http://www.troutman.org/ftp/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg > > At 09:55 AM 9/12/2002, Carl Schelin wrote: > >Cool! And > http://www.troutman.org/pub/cool/pics/girlmotocyc99le.jpg jumps me > >to http://www.stopanimaltests.com > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > 1997 Honda VFR 750 > AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ > NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 11:20:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CFKdSi027795; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:20:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CFKdTW027788; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:20:39 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <10e.172de6bf.2ab20abe@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:20:30 EDT Subject: Re: the sky is falling ( was RE: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/12/2002 9:26:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, adamme1@XXXXXX writes: > I feel like such an insignificant speck in the grand scheme > of things.... There is a reason for that. Sorry, I just cannot let an easy one get away. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 11:40:13 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CFeDSi027973; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:40:13 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CFe9bY027957; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:40:09 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:44:21 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: ebay humor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1855723656 Check out the item desc. Dan -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 11:51:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CFpLSi028059; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:51:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CFpL62028051; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:51:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912115021.02392280@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:51:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: ebay humor In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:44 AM 9/12/2002, dan wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1855723656 > >Check out the item desc. For the browser impaired (some can't get to eBay through work proxy) - it is a bike sale with this at the end of a long bike description : ...This bike will wheelie immediately. If you aren't an experienced rider this probably isn't the bike for you. Good Luck and happy bidding Rob....Sorry I had to sell your bike man Laurie....I am running this auction for 7 days so please do me a favor and look at it everyday. I hope when you do you realize if you would have kept your big mouth shut Rob and I would have worked it out and he could have kept his bike. I look forward to the day he calls me and says your a gonner..outta there. It will happen sweetheart. He's a smart good looking guy and as you know from this bike...he likes things perfect. Get a mirror honey....your not even close. Some sweet thing will come along some day and show him how a man should be treated...not ran. When that happens he will have a room at my house. I'll do everything I can to see his kids are the same place Cody is....with DAD. Just like the pets...always shippin them off when you get bored with em. How's the internet for the last word BIIIITCH. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 11:57:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CFvkSi028152; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:57:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CFvkuc028147; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:57:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020912155744.26151.qmail@web20708.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:57:44 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: ebay humor To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020912115021.02392280@mail.troutman.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii er, no Mike. That's not the humor at all!! if you haven't heard a TLR with D&D your missing out. It sounds like a harley. This is the humor. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 12:09:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CG9pSi028298; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:09:51 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CG9V5a028273; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:09:31 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926D6@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:10:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Many thanks to Matthew Patton who took the time to help me get my bike running last night. It was water in the gas tank. There was probably 3/4" on the bottom of a gallom milk jug. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 12:11:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CGB1Si028351; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:11:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CGAioB028330; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:10:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVbUY/SYHCR62tzNQ54cUgE9NB/KOPZ0/ttFS4CqkFK0N6j4PZ/GNTREyw8Ffi1PwWg= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: ebay humor Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:10:41 -0400 Message-ID: <003d01c25a76$f187e110$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20020912155744.26151.qmail@web20708.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal I thought the whole thing was hilarious...and I know there's at least one mullet involved. -----matthew patton wrote: er, no Mike. That's not the humor at all!! if you haven't heard a TLR with D&D your missing out. It sounds like a harley. This is the humor. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 12:35:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CGZqSi028526; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:35:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CGZqKo028518; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:35:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020912163549.47361.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:35:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: RE: ebay humor To: jmstrang@XXXXXX, "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" In-Reply-To: <003d01c25a76$f187e110$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Maybe the guy selling that bike is on the following link somewhere:-) http://www.mulletsgalore.com/ Nick --- Jon Strang wrote: > I thought the whole thing was hilarious...and I know > there's at least one > mullet involved. > > -----matthew patton wrote: > > > er, no Mike. That's not the humor at all!! > > if you haven't heard a TLR with D&D your > missing out. It sounds > like a harley. > > This is the humor. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 13:10:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CHA3Si028803; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:10:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CHA2eT028789; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:10:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:13:55 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: Rich Hall cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926D6@SERVER1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 3/4"???? Geez Rich, its not a Jet Ski, keep it out of the lake. Speaking of Jet Skis they have water separators before the fuel filter. Maybe you could get one of those for next time. Dan On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Rich Hall wrote: > Many thanks to Matthew Patton who took the time to help me get my bike > running last night. > It was water in the gas tank. There was probably 3/4" on the bottom of a > gallom milk jug. > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 13:46:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CHksSi029028; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:46:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CHkYGd029009; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:46:34 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020912174631.45053.qmail@web20701.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:46:31 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: RE: Water in Gas Tank/Stranded Bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926D6@SERVER1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii nothing like wrenching by the side of 14th and G watching the 'night crawlers' going about their business. Had a few in the audience from time to time taking stock of the tools and bits strewn about. I gotta say the Seca-II airbox (or at least this example) was a huge, hunking pain in the ass. Apparently the dealer who did the last service didn't like the struggle either so they just plopped it on top without connecting any of the rubber bits and passed the work off as finished. Explains why the air filter looked brand new despite supposedly being used for 3 months. I don't know what it is with engineers. They should be tortured into using their own stupid designs. The airbox issue would have been so totally trivial even a 2yr old could do it if the bloody screws holding the 2 halves together were on the top instead of underneath where nobthing can get at them. Do we not teach 'logical thought' to engineers in school? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 14:09:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CI9eSi029187; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:09:40 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CI9KPW029162; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:09:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:09:00 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: ebay humor Message-ID: <3E96AE34.24624E0E.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Did anybody else check out the re-list? All of that has been removed. Ebay not like them using their site for a bitch session? ;-) Scooter In a message dated Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:51:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: > > > At 11:44 AM 9/12/2002, dan wrote: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1855723656 > > > >Check out the item desc. > > For the browser impaired (some can't get to eBay through work proxy) - it > is a bike sale with this at the end of a long bike description : > > ...This bike will wheelie immediately. If you aren't an experienced rider > this probably isn't the bike for you. Good Luck and happy bidding > Rob....Sorry I had to sell your bike man Laurie....I am running this > auction for 7 days so please do me a favor and look at it everyday. I hope > when you do you realize if you would have kept your big mouth shut Rob and > I would have worked it out and he could have kept his bike. I look forward > to the day he calls me and says your a gonner..outta there. It will happen > sweetheart. He's a smart good looking guy and as you know from this > bike...he likes things perfect. Get a mirror honey....your not even close. > Some sweet thing will come along some day and show him how a man should be > treated...not ran. When that happens he will have a room at my house. I'll > do everything I can to see his kids are the same place Cody is....with DAD. > Just like the pets...always shippin them off when you get > bored with em. > How's the internet for the last word BIIIITCH. > > > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > 1997 Honda VFR 750 > AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ > NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 14:35:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CIZRSi029371; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:35:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CIZ61E029352; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:35:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <01bd01c25a8b$11bce020$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: "dan" , References: Subject: Re: ebay humor Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:30:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I like the vehicle description, sounds like a love affair gone bad. But can't tell if he is selling just the paint of the whole bike. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "dan" To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: ebay humor > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1855723656 > > Check out the item desc. > > Dan > > -- > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 14:56:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CIukSi029517; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:56:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CIuQRJ029498; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:56:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514CC9@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'carl@XXXXXX'" Subject: New member intro... Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:01:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Carl Parker, Philosopher Cadet, Correctly Posted: "Mah' name is Carl Parker in Northern VA area. Thought I'd drop a quick note to introduce myself and ask a question. I ride a 1982 Honda Magna v45 and have been riding for a little over a year. I got about 5500 miles (I was down and out for a few months) under my belt and loved every hot/cold/rain/sun day of it." And he's already driven (not trailered) it to TWO in Suches. You did do the Dragon? "Pax, Carl Parker (not to be confused with the Carl "The Sage" Custer)" Wha--at, there's a fourth Carl? Evil Overlord Carl, calmly overlooking earlier " . . . in Northern VA area." asked, "Where are you located?" Rocket scientists :^D CPPC offered, "What is that rattling sound that Ducatis make when they start up?" After they purchase the bike they have no money left to oil the clutch. So, the clutches run dry (Tho they pretend it's supposed to be like that). Plus, they sound as if they're only hitting on two cylinders. That leaves the riders a little wacky so, women can steal their pickups and leave 'em driving girlie cages. Go figger. <|%^\ "" Ya mean "godliness" with an i. Yew nevah got thet speal Czecker fixed didja? 8^) " . . . sarcasm is hard to convey over e-mail cuz' most of it is denoted tonally." Wow, you have some musical e-mail? All of mine comes in A-tonally. Cheep gummimint 'puter. >:^> "While I do enjoy and thank people for the warm welcome, I do think this thread has generated enough public posts to warrant it's end so as to not innundate people's busy day with lots of hellos. " Inundate? Not at all. Welcome Carl. On DCCycles, you'll learn the nuances of " . . . unmoderated email discussion list . . . " =8^O But, there's good stuff here too. Olde Weird Carl (in Bethesda) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 15:18:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CJIoSi029736; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:18:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CJIUnr029717; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:18:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926DF@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: for the old DC Cycles guys Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:19:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Brian McCoy To: SecaIITalkList@XXXXXX Damn - I miss DC-Cycles... wish there were something even similar down this direction. ===== Cheers, Brian McCoy 86/87 VFR750 F2 - 'Mongrel' 90 YSR 80 - 'Pinky' 95 Seca II From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 15:27:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CJRRSi029842; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:27:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CJR7sX029823; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:27:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <022d01c25a92$546d75e0$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: "'DCCycles'" References: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514CC9@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> Subject: B & N Night Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:26:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Okay, who is going to Barnes and Noble night tonight? Since I attempted to find people last week and couldn't (except for Purkle people eater) want to know where to look this time. I will be the one on the 84 Nighthawk Black/Blue with the HJC Creviar helmet. Scott From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 15:34:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CJYaSi029918; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:34:36 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CJYGhk029899; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:34:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:33:17 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: New 600's Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8CJYFSi029882 The 03 600's look pretty sweet. Here is a photo of the 03 Honda 600RR with a undertail exhaust http://68.97.34.241:8080/Uploads/600rrtail.jpg The new R6 (old news to most) http://www.motorcycledaily.com/10september02yamaha2003yzfr6.html George Cole From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 15:38:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CJcdSi029994; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:38:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CJcJUe029975; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:38:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: B & N Night Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:37:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A641962304957FE0@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: B & N Night Thread-Index: AcJak+sYhFVvJt8hTsmv9RnRuZBfig== From: To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8CJcHSi029963 I may come out, I need to get the latest copy of "Bike" anyway. George 02 Red VFR (red helmet) somewhat loud exhaust. >>> S. Russell 09/12/02 03:26PM >>> Okay, who is going to Barnes and Noble night tonight? Sin Scott From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 15:55:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CJtLSi030137; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:55:21 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CJtL2A030129; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:55:21 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020912195519.66465.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:55:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: B & N Night To: George.Cole@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A641962304957FE0@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii did you buy pierre's bike? i thought you had an fz1 and an r6. --- George.Cole@XXXXXX wrote: > I may come out, I need to get the latest copy of "Bike" > anyway. > > George > 02 Red VFR (red helmet) somewhat loud exhaust. > > > >>> S. Russell 09/12/02 03:26PM >>> > Okay, who is going to Barnes and Noble night tonight? > Sin > > Scott __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 15:57:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CJvvSi030187; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:57:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CJvuZl030181; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:57:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 0, 8 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) From: "Kirk Roy" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: for the old DC Cycles guys Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:57:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8CJvtSi030169 Rich Hall wrote: > From: Brian McCoy > To: SecaIITalkList@XXXXXX > > Damn - I miss DC-Cycles... wish there were something > even similar down this direction. > > ===== > Cheers, > > Brian McCoy > 86/87 VFR750 F2 - 'Mongrel' > 90 YSR 80 - 'Pinky' > 95 Seca II Shoot, *I* miss dc-cycles and I'm on the list... :) It's changed quite a bit through the years. Kirk From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 15:58:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CJwISi030232; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:58:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CJwI6F030224; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:58:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020912195729.21278.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:57:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: New member intro... To: "Custer, Carl" , "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'carl@XXXXXX'" In-Reply-To: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514CC9@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Custer, Carl" wrote: > > CPPC offered, > "What is that rattling sound that Ducatis make when they > start up?" > After they purchase the bike they have no money left to > oil the clutch. So, > the clutches run dry (Tho they pretend it's supposed to > be like that). > Plus, they sound as if they're only hitting on two > cylinders. That leaves > the riders a little wacky so, women can steal their > pickups and leave 'em > driving girlie cages. > Go figger. <|%^\ as a bonus, when i got to work today and undertook the daily inspection, i noticed that my genetalia had actually shrunk. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 16:00:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CK01Si030280; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:00:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CK01GC030273; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:00:01 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: B & N Night Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:58:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623049A238F@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: B & N Night Thread-Index: AcJalvWLAqJfU+PgTeKPBGh9t/l6xw== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8CK00Si030252 Nope, traded the FZ1 for the VFR, still have the R6 (now track only) Pierre's bike?....chuckle... George >>> Tom Gimer 09/12/02 03:55PM >>> did you buy pierre's bike? i thought you had an fz1 and an r6. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 16:12:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CKCvSi030420; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:12:57 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CKCvBB030409; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:12:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514CCE@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'Tom Gimer'" , "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'carl@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: New member intro... Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:17:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain > as a bonus, when i got to work today and undertook the > daily inspection, i noticed that my genetalia had actually > shrunk. [Custer, Carl] You check the temperature? Was 14 C in my back yard this morning. That'll shrink 'em. or try Piper Pond in Maine: Page 4; ZimBob's septic tank is too small for 40 Maggots so he put Tom's of Maine soap and shampoo on the end of the dock. The naughty bits got microscopic and needed little soap. The "Stephanie" is my 21-year-old, just-passed-the-MSF, wants-a-baby-'Ceptor, young-un. It'll be time to dig out the fuzzies in a month. OW-Carl From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 16:30:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CKUsSi030535; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:30:54 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CKUr6s030527; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:30:53 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:30:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Braking (NOT rear braking) Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Newbie question... How do y'all brake when you're approaching a known slow bit? Like, an upcoming traffic light, stopped cars, a turn... stuff like that. Say you're in fifth doing 50, the turn is ten seconds ahead of you, and you want to take it at ~20. I obviously do it the WRONG way... yesterday, I was approaching a cloverleaf, so I pulled in the clutch, downshifted a few times, slowed down, then let go the clutch. Oops -- too low a gear (I think), as the engine surged, the bike wobbled madly, and I had to grab the clutch, regain control, then upshift... and all was well. Hm. Need to work on that. Fish. flashes his brake lights, much good it'll do him if he dumps it anyway From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 16:56:04 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CKu4Si030865; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:56:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CKtham030844; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:55:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2.4011 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:55:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) From: Rob Curtis To: Fish Flowers , DC-CYCLES Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit 1)Front Brake, 2) clutch, 3) drop one gear, 4) release clutch, 5) repeat from step one until you're slowed. Works for me. Dropping a gear at a time ensures I can accelerate if I need to. It's also easier than trying guesstimate which gear you're supposed to be in when dumping several gears at once. Rob C on 9/12/02 16:30, Fish Flowers at fish@XXXXXX noted: > Newbie question... > > How do y'all brake when you're approaching a known slow bit? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 16:56:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CKuUSi030901; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:56:30 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CKuAo6030882; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:56:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 12 Sep 2002 20:56:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20020912205610.15671.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Fish fed us: ... >I obviously do it the WRONG way... yesterday, I was approaching a >cloverleaf, so I pulled in the clutch, downshifted a few times, slowed >down, then let go the clutch. Oops -- too low a gear (I think), as the >engine surged, the bike wobbled madly, and I had to grab the clutch, >regain control, then upshift... and all was well. Hm. Need to work on >that. [Dave] Ask and answer yourself this question - Of these parts, which will I mind replacing the least - my brake pads / rotors OR hard parts in my transmission ? If you answer the latter, we will collectively smite thee with braking components... Your brake pads & rotors are 'expendable' wear items, use them as such. That means - use them to stop, not your drive train. Try down shifting a gear at a time to match the rpm's to your speed as you slow. This should prove beneficial to your riding & longevity of you and your bike's drive train... HTH Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 16:56:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CKuqSi030932; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:56:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CKuqGV030923; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:56:52 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:01:04 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Harley FL Speed wobbles? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://www.wral.com/news/1664229/detail.html Wonder if this was another case of the tank slappers on the FL series. I think the frames were updated for the 2k2 models because of the wobbles. I know my 02 FLHR front end can get a little squirly at speeds >85. Anyone else notice they feel a little light up front at speed? I never noticed till I got a sportbike, but man what a diff. Dan -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 17:02:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CL2xSi031001; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:02:59 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CL2x63030996; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:02:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:02:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) In-Reply-To: <20020912205610.15671.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Sep 2002 sdave@XXXXXX sdanswered: > Ask and answer yourself this question - Of these parts, which will I > mind replacing the least - my brake pads / rotors OR hard parts in my > transmission ? Heh. Just a quick clarification: I was braking the entire time. I just misjudged the proper gear for my new (slower) speed. Thanks for the responses, though. Actually, another question: I was puttering along MD-32 West yesterday afternoon, doing about 55-60, and it was (or felt like it was) really windy... a pretty uncomfortable feeling when a crossdraft smacks you and your bike wants to shimmy across half a lane. Any tips on dealing with this sort of thing? Fish. GS500e "Red Sonja" the shimmyer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 17:18:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CLIbSi031129; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:18:37 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CLIbZx031121; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:18:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005001c25aa2$ceade5a0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Fish Flowers" , "DC-Cycles" References: Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:23:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ----- Original Message ----- Fish fished for a response: > How do y'all brake when you're approaching a known slow bit? Like, an > upcoming traffic light, stopped cars, a turn... stuff like that. Say > you're in fifth doing 50, the turn is ten seconds ahead of you, and you > want to take it at ~20. > > I obviously do it the WRONG way... yesterday, I was approaching a > cloverleaf, so I pulled in the clutch, downshifted a few times, slowed > down, then let go the clutch. Oops -- too low a gear (I think), as the > engine surged, the bike wobbled madly, and I had to grab the clutch, > regain control, then upshift... and all was well. Hm. Need to work on > that. Shuddering at the thought of wading in on a brake thread. :) But, wait a minute we're not talking braking here, it's shifting. Next time (for a controlled slowing, setting up for a turn, i.e., not a quick stop) try blipping (rolling on) the throttle as you brake and downshift simultaneously. That means two fingers on the lever (index and middle) and two around the throttle (ring and pinky). As you ease out the clutch goose the throttle so the rear tire doesn't skip. [What you do with the rear brake I'll leave up to you, as long as you're light on the pedal.] Match engine revs to your speed. That's not so much to use the engine to slow the bike, but rather to be in a good gear, in or just below the bike's power band, so when you need to get on the gas again you won't lug, hesitate, sputter, etc., because you're in too high a gear. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 17:26:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CLQcSi031231; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:26:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CLQbrb031222; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:26:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 14:23:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020912141934.Y27272-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Fish Flowers wrote: > On 12 Sep 2002 sdave@XXXXXX sdanswered: > > > Ask and answer yourself this question - Of these parts, which will I > > mind replacing the least - my brake pads / rotors OR hard parts in my > > transmission ? > > Heh. Just a quick clarification: I was braking the entire time. I just > misjudged the proper gear for my new (slower) speed. As someone else mentioned, just downshift one gear at a time, releasing the clutch between gears. This, along with applying the brake, will help to avoid locking the rear wheel. As a side note, many bikes have back torque limiting clutches which will prevent rear wheel lockup while downshifting. > Thanks for the responses, though. Actually, another question: I was > puttering along MD-32 West yesterday afternoon, doing about 55-60, and it > was (or felt like it was) really windy... a pretty uncomfortable feeling > when a crossdraft smacks you and your bike wants to shimmy across half a > lane. Any tips on dealing with this sort of thing? A firm, yet relaxed, grip on the bars and lean into the wind. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 17:33:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CLXiSi031310; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:33:44 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CLXibR031303; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:33:44 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <001601c25aa4$04866c50$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: "DC Cycles" Cc: "Stanford, Bob/Karen" , "Russell, Celenda A." , "Walsh, Kathleen" References: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623049A238F@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> Subject: Jobs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:33:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Well I guess the luck rubbed off on me today. In the last couple of days of posts people were talking about interviews. I myself had one this week, and will start the job on Monday. I start as an apprentice mechanic at Cycles USA in Rockville. This will give me a chance to learn more and ride more. Hurray for me. Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 17:41:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CLfuSi031380; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:41:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CLftNg031374; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:41:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020912174120.01ed5430@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:41:43 -0400 To: "S. Russell" , "DC Cycles" From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Jobs Cc: "Stanford, Bob/Karen" , "Russell, Celenda A." , "Walsh, Kathleen" In-Reply-To: <001601c25aa4$04866c50$9865fea9@Godzilla> References: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623049A238F@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:33 PM 9/12/2002 -0400, S. Russell wrote: >Well I guess the luck rubbed off on me today. In the last couple of days of >posts people were talking about interviews. I myself had one this week, and >will start the job on Monday. > >I start as an apprentice mechanic at Cycles USA in Rockville. This will >give me a chance to learn more and ride more. Hurray for me. > >Scott Russell >1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S a big congrats Scott! This *is* good news! -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 17:50:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CLoJSi031466; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:50:19 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CLoJf8031458; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:50:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Sent: 12 Sep 2002 21:50:15 GMT Message-ID: <084d01c25aa8$5bf84cc0$6401a8c0@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: "Rich Hall" , References: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD50926DF@SERVER1> Subject: Re: for the old DC Cycles guys Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:01:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 > > Damn - I miss DC-Cycles... wish there were something > even similar down this direction. > I'm going to have to email him and bust his ass for that one! LOL LAG From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 17:58:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CLwcSi031533; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:58:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CLwcdW031520; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:58:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Lisa Goddard" To: "dccycles" Subject: two-up GSXR 1000 Wheelie Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:57:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 There's a nice pic of me on the track at VIR on Jay's RC30, if you click on the picture you will then notice that I am being passed by a GSXR 1000 two-up!!!! http://www.mad-ducati.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 18:00:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CM0GSi031576; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:00:16 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CM0G8a031569; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:00:16 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:00:07 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: New 600's To: George Cole Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Message-id: <3D810E67.3C9EB34F@comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: George Cole wrote: > > The 03 600's look pretty sweet. > > Here is a photo of the 03 Honda 600RR with a undertail exhaust > > http://68.97.34.241:8080/Uploads/600rrtail.jpg Now THAT looks cool! I always thought the recent trend in having one HUGE exhaust can on only one side of a sportbike looked kinda silly, unbalanced, uneven, whacko, if you catch my drift. This looks much cleaner, even though it might be a butt roaster. Damn shame it's a chain drive, though. :) Horkster -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 19:12:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CNCdSi032251; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:12:39 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CNCcOB032243; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:12:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020912230652.2355.qmail@mta532.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:06:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Subject: Yahoo! Auto Response To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text We will be attending the Texas World Speedway for the WERA National Endurance Series 6-Hour race from Sept 12 - 16. We'll respond as soon as we can. Thanks, TightSqueezeRacing.org -------------------- Original Message: >From dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 23:06:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Track: 0: 100 Return-Path: Received: from 66.93.53.251 (EHLO dirty.meretrix.com) (66.93.53.251) by mta532.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Sep 2002 16:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8CN04Si031921; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:00:04 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8CN02QM031916; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:00:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:00:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200209122300.g8CN00di031893@dirty.meretrix.com> From: dc-cycles-digest-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 20:21:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D0L0Si032686; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:21:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D0KxD9032670; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:20:59 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3D8130AF.E1BFB59@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:26:23 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dan CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley FL Speed wobbles? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dan wrote: > http://www.wral.com/news/1664229/detail.html > > Wonder if this was another case of the tank slappers on the FL series. I > think the frames were updated for the 2k2 models because of the wobbles. > I know my 02 FLHR front end can get a little squirly at speeds >85. > Anyone else notice they feel a little light up front at speed? I never > noticed till I got a sportbike, but man what a diff. > > Dan The FLH series aren't race bikes. Yes, 85 is about the limit on factory stock FLHs, but he *inherent* wobbles can be tuned out. A) do the alignment check and adjustment to make sure the rear and front wheel track true. Yes, they can be as much as 3/4" out of adjustment. If you don't have a factory manual, I do -- photocopys of that part? B) FLHs ride on air suspension, the equivalent of using Whoopie cushions for shocks. In short, OEM air shocks blow stink. I bagged my air bags and installed your basic Progressive Suspension shocks and swapped out the front fork springs. A rather impressive improvement in overall handling resulted. It still ain't a sportbike, and will never be a sportbike. It wasn't designed to be one. But after messing with mine I feel comfy at ... er .. legal speed :-) Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:03:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D136Si000444; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:03:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D136DM000437; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:03:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020913010304.88250.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:03:04 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Jobs To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <001601c25aa4$04866c50$9865fea9@Godzilla> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > I start as an apprentice mechanic at Cycles USA in Rockville. This > will give me a chance to learn more and ride more. Hurray for me. and here I've been trying to convince Manassas Honda, MFI, or Cyclesport (Alex) to do the same thing. "Sorry, too late in the season to bother training you. Come back in Feb" Is it something I said???!?!!???? __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:07:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D17JSi000495; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:07:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D17Jc3000486; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:07:19 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020913010717.88640.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:07:17 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20020912141934.Y27272-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Wayne Edelen wrote: ... > to avoid locking the rear wheel. As a side note, many bikes have > back > torque limiting clutches which will prevent rear wheel lockup while > downshifting. Maybe in your little world of super-high performance (and super high priced) bikes they have them. I know some of the fancy Duc's, the Mille family from Aprilia and purhaps the unlimited class sportbikes do but a GS sure as heck doesn't. Nor does any sized Bandit, ZRX, or other vastly more pedestrian motorcycles. I'll bet not a single HD has such a gizmo. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:13:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1DwSi000548; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:13:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1DwLS000543; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:13:58 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020913011356.76059.qmail@web20702.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: re: Harley FL Speed wobbles? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > http://www.wral.com/news/1664229/detail.html Wait a sec. A moto-cop in PURSUIT of a speeding vehicle is overtaken and passed by a semi? Semi turbulance is sometimes horrendous and I can understand it easily upseting a bike with a big-ass fairing on it, especially if fork mounted. Utter crap (worse then pillows) suspensions doesn't help things either. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:14:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1EmSi000590; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:14:48 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1Emw8000586; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:14:48 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <26.2dab8c56.2ab295fe@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:14:38 EDT Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/12/2002 4:30:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fish@XXXXXX writes: > I had to grab the clutch, _Never_ grab. Motorcycles do not like to be grabbed. Grabbing is what you do when you panic. Panic bad. Smooooth good. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:15:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1FhSi000637; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:15:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1Fgh2000628; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:15:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:15:39 -0700 From: " Jeff Kopchik" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: jkop@XXXXXX Subject: [No Subject] Sender: jkop@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 4.64.223.228 Scott, Congrats on the new job! I take my '92 Nighthawk there for service. Jeff K. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:16:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1GkSi000677; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:16:46 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1Gkse000672; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:16:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: magoo.noid.org: wayne owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:13:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Wayne Edelen X-X-Sender: wayne@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) In-Reply-To: <20020913010717.88640.qmail@web20707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20020912180718.P27272-100000@magoo.noid.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, matthew patton wrote: > Maybe in your little world of super-high performance (and super high > priced) bikes they have them. I know some of the fancy Duc's, the Mille > family from Aprilia and purhaps the unlimited class sportbikes do but a > GS sure as heck doesn't. Nor does any sized Bandit, ZRX, or other > vastly more pedestrian motorcycles. I'll bet not a single HD has such a gizmo. I said, "... many bikes have back torque limiting clutches ...". Thanks for clarifying that the less expensive, non sporting models don't have them. My old VF1000F Interceptor had one and my 'Busa has one (which I may be welding together, depending on how bad it is at the dragstrip tomorrow). :-) I don't consider an '84 Interceptor to be in my "... little world of super-high performance (and super high priced) bikes ...". Bought and sold it for $2500 :-) I suppose if you're living on Ramen and counting pennies to gas up your moped, it is super high priced. I hope you find a better job soon. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:19:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1JASi000721; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:19:10 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1JAgg000716; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:19:10 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:23:17 -0400 (EDT) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: "William J. Huson" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley FL Speed wobbles? In-Reply-To: <3D8130AF.E1BFB59@patriot.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > The FLH series aren't race bikes. Yes, 85 is about the limit on factory > stock FLHs, but he *inherent* wobbles can be tuned out. I keep telling myself that, but its so fun to ride it like I stole it. Makes all the typical Harley folk scratch their head as someone in full gear blows by them thinkin he's on one of them there crotch rockets. > > A) do the alignment check and adjustment to make sure the rear and front > wheel track true. Yes, they can be as much as 3/4" out of adjustment. If you > don't have a factory manual, I do -- photocopys of that part? > Ordered mine the day I picked the bike up. Its probably a good idea to check the alignment. I rode down to the keys and got to enjoy about 400 miles of fine florida pavement and the FLHR trying to follow every grove. Do the old folks foget to pull up their boat anchors and just drag them on the pavement??? > B) FLHs ride on air suspension, the equivalent of using Whoopie cushions for > shocks. In short, OEM air shocks blow stink. I bagged my air bags and > installed your basic Progressive Suspension shocks and swapped out the front > fork springs. A rather impressive improvement in overall handling resulted. > I think the >02's dumped the airshocks in favor of a regular shocks. Though the rear is still air. > It still ain't a sportbike, and will never be a sportbike. It wasn't > designed to be one. But after messing with mine I feel comfy at ... er .. > legal speed :-) Not trying to make it a sportbike! Thats what the VFR is for. In fact I'm happy with it in the turns, it does quite well compared to my V-star. Just a little squidly at squidly speeds :-D Dan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:24:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1ORSi000788; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:24:27 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1OQsj000769; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:24:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 20:24:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) In-Reply-To: <26.2dab8c56.2ab295fe@aol.com> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > _Never_ grab. > Motorcycles do not like to be grabbed. > Grabbing is what you do when you panic. > Panic bad. > Smooooth good. Me? Panic? You bet. ISTR, though, my MSF instructor tellin' us "Iffin' ya gets inta trouble, just grab that thar clutch." No? Grab clutch bad? I guess I could see that grabbing the clutch in a turn might be... uhh, sub-optimal, but what would the better response be when you've just downshifted way too much? More throttle? Fish. other than not f@#!ing up in the first place, that is From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:30:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1UhSi000837; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:30:43 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1Ugwr000830; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:30:42 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:30:29 EDT Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/12/2002 9:08:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pattonme@XXXXXX writes: > Maybe in your little world of super-high performance (and super high > priced) bikes they have them. A number of Japanese big twins have them, not expensive bikes, just big bore engines with lots of compression. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:38:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1c2Si000913; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:38:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1c2BX000899; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:38:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <189.ddf6d43.2ab29b70@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:37:52 EDT Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/12/2002 9:24:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fish@XXXXXX writes: > my MSF instructor tellin' us "Iffin' ya gets inta trouble, > just grab that thar clutch Bad instructor, no riding for one week #:-) > The term is _squeeze_! As in "Iffin ya gets inta trouble _squeeze_ that thar clutch lever. MSF is _very_ particular about terms, and G-R-A-B is one of the biggest no-no s That is why I responded to the original post, gave me the hebe-jebes. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:47:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1l8Si001167; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:47:08 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1l8pv001160; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:47:08 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Lisa Goddard" To: "dccycles" , Subject: vanity tags Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:46:16 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 From: "Paul Wilson" To: , "Aki Damme" Subject: Re: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:42:59 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aki Damme" > At 08:09 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, Jeff Steele lamented: > >A month or so back, my council member (Adrian Fenty) forwarded me an email > >from the Director of the DMV saying that motorcycles would still use the > >small stickers. (snip) > > ye gad Jeff, how long is it *supposed* to take for a personalized plate in > DC? Typically in Va. a week, two at the most. > > Yeah, you should see the fees involved for such "service." I think it's $60 at first, then an extra $20 a year. Vanity has a high price. Good news is there's not a lot of competition for your favorite letter/number combos. It's all contracted out now that the Lorton License Plate Academy is closed. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 My father is a CPA in MD and CO as a second career, he mentioned to me that the IRS gets lists of all vanity plates from each state and that they are more likely to audit those with vanity tags. Lisa '95 VFR MD Plate: kawgrl From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:47:11 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1lBSi001205; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:47:11 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1lBBr001197; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:47:11 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "Lisa Goddard" To: "dccycles" Subject: It's contagious! Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:46:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 From: "S. Russell" Subject: Jobs Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:33:15 -0400 Well I guess the luck rubbed off on me today. In the last couple of days of posts people were talking about interviews. I myself had one this week, and will start the job on Monday. I start as an apprentice mechanic at Cycles USA in Rockville. This will give me a chance to learn more and ride more. Hurray for me. Scott Russell 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S I start a new gig on the 23rd of this month. Unfortunately my gig has nothing to do with motorcycles and I don't think I will even be able to commute much on mine due to the monkey-suit requirement. Lisa Goddard From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:51:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1p2Si001264; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:51:02 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1p2Iw001257; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:51:02 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:51:01 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: DC plate stickers, the ongoing saga From: Jeff Steele To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <41825BD7-C6BB-11D6-A787-00306541B6AC@steele.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) > ye gad Jeff, how long is it *supposed* to take for a personalized > plate in > DC? Typically in Va. a week, two at the most. > > -aki (who's now seriously looking at OTHER plates for his Durango after > being severely ridiculed on this list) > Delayed response due to reading in digest mode: Officially, it should take 6-8 weeks to get a personalized plate in DC. So far, I have been waiting 16 weeks and will probably have to wait about 2 more at least. The main reason I want a personalized plate is so that I can remember the f'ing number. With all the passwords, pin numbers, and everything else rattling around in my head, I will be glad to have one less obscure string of random letters/numbers to deal with. Jeff Steele '99 XLH Sportster 883 Hugger From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 21:51:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D1p7Si001310; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:51:07 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D1p7UF001306; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:51:07 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020913015105.84960.qmail@web20710.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:51:05 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: this "single undertail exhuast" trend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii well, purhaps 3 examples don't make a trend but while I think the stylistic points are difinately a plus, to what extent is this an oblique effort by the factories to make the job of aftermarket exhuast suppliers more difficult? EPA/CARB have for quite some time now been pushing for manufacturers to deliberately make modding a vehicle counterproductive (eg. the bloody thing won't run) or at least cost (money/time) prohibitive. I shudder to think what insurance rates are going to do... Maybe soon MCists will have to carry the same insurance GA pilots have to. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu Sep 12 22:06:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D26cSi001602; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:06:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8D26bcI001592; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:06:37 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 22:06:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler X-X-Sender: ph@XXXXXX To: Fish Flowers cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop-Detect: 1 In the same way that you don't want to grab the clutch, you don't (didn't) want to suddenly release it. Easing off the clutch would tell you that you're down a gear too low before the clutch is fully engaged, and you can either feather or upshift from there. Getting your transitions as smooth as possible helps with control all around, and conserves traction to boot. -ph On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Fish Flowers wrote: > I guess I could see that grabbing the clutch in a turn might be... uhh, > sub-optimal, but what would the better response be when you've just > downshifted way too much? More throttle? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 06:17:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DAHoSi004278; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 06:17:50 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DAHn8L004266; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 06:17:49 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "Custer, Carl" , "'DCCycles'" Subject: Re: New member intro... Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 06:15:37 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Cc: "'carl@XXXXXX'" References: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514CC9@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> In-Reply-To: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514CC9@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0209130615375Q.11374@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 12 September 2002 15:01, Custer, Carl wrote: > Carl Parker, Philosopher Cadet, Correctly Posted: > "Mah' name is Carl Parker in Northern VA area. Thought I'd drop a quick > Carl Parker (not to be confused with the Carl "The Sage" Custer)" > Wha--at, there's a fourth Carl? bwahahahah. "The Sage". How about "The geezer" :-) > > Evil Overlord Carl, calmly overlooking earlier " . . . in Northern VA > area." > asked, "Where are you located?" > Rocket scientists :^D Harumph. There are no "rocket scientists" here at Headquarters. I'm a computer geek. I bite the heads off of NT admins. He said "Northern Virginia". I case you didn't know, NOVA is fairly large. Specifically "_where_ in Northern Virginia". If he's in the Woodbridge area, maybe we can comiserate about the strip mining of Dale Blvd. Since he's in Arlington, he won't know about Dale Blvd unless I mention it. > Olde Weird Carl (in Bethesda) Olde is right. He has to be older than dirt :-) Evil Overlord Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 08:03:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DC3nSi004817; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:03:49 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DC3hvO004798; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:03:43 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jennthebiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <55.2d45385b.2ab32e12@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:03:30 EDT Subject: yesterdays work commute To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 10637 hello everyone. i never have been blessed with the opportunity to share of my morning commute. truthfully, i never thought i would be able to since my total commute is about 2/10 of a mile. (that doesnt include the parking lot at work.) for the most part i walk but for the last week ive had my bike with me so i like to take it to work where there are guards and people i work with rather than just random people where i live. at any rate... i was actually wearing a leather jacket that i had borrowed from a coworker. (most of you know my gear usually consist of street clothes, boots, gloves, and a helmet.) i usually have to let my bike run for a few minutes. i guess i cut it a bit short because as i was turning around in my parking lot i had to give him lots of throttle and lots of clutch to keep from stalling. i go to exit my parking lot on to my first 1/10 of a mile stretch. i waited for traffic to pass (people cut through my apartment development to get access to a light rather than trying to pull out onto a busy street without a light). i pulled out, still giving him lots of throttle and clutch. i wasnt going very fast --- its a development and only 1/10 mile to the stop sign. as i approach the stop sign i see a car behind me. i make my stop. no traffic. i prepare to turn. still giving the whole throttle/clutch thing. during the next 1/10 of a mile stretch approaching a red light. the lady behind me tries to pass me on the left. its a pretty wide section of road; however, i was in the left part of our lane. there were two groups of kids waiting for the bus -- one on each side of the road. i notice her trying to get around me. i turn around and yell 'what are YOU doing??' and then it hit me that she was actually trying to pass me to get to the the red light. so i yelled 'what ARE you doing??' cuz i couldnt believe what she was trying to do. within seconds im at the red light (which stays red for at least 3 minutes). i shut off the bike and get off. i walk back to her and politely put my hand over my heart area and say 'did i do something wrong?' in my most innocent voice. (yet loud enough for her to hear me since she had her window up and her hand up as if she wasnt interested in hearing me.) so i looked around her hand and said 'DID i do something wrong?' she says 'YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DRIVE' *woah* (im thinking 1. im driving in my development, what are you doing here? 2. i was going 10-15 mph in a 1/10 mile section of road, how fast do you want me to go approaching the clear red light?) so i said while pointing at the light 'the light is red, where WERE you going?' she kinda just sneared and tried not to look at me. so i said 'WHERE were you going??' she put up her hand again to not listen to me. (it didnt make me stop talking the first time not sure why she thought it would work again!) so i walked back to the bike and got on. i still had to wait another minute for the light to turn green. i go straight into my work parking lot and she makes her left. to make the story better --- her kid was in the car and she was driving a volvo. wasnt there talk before about volvo drivers? *boggle* i will meet up with her again someday whether im walking or driving the car to work (cuz im lazy). maybe ill ask her if she wants to race or something ;) i waited until this morning to write this so i was all calmed down. thats my story... jtb From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 08:19:56 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DCJuSi004893; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:19:56 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DCJtVv004885; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:19:55 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020913121953.5751.qmail@web12308.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 05:19:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicholas Thompson Subject: Re: B & N Night To: George.Cole@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A641962304957FE0@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Scott, George, It was good to meet you guys lastnight. Finally get to put some faces with the names. There was a pretty large turnout of bikes there. Perhaps next Thursday we can do it again... rgds, Nick --- George.Cole@XXXXXX wrote: > I may come out, I need to get the latest copy of > "Bike" anyway. > > George > 02 Red VFR (red helmet) somewhat loud exhaust. > > > >>> S. Russell 09/12/02 03:26PM >>> > Okay, who is going to Barnes and Noble night > tonight? Sin > > Scott > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 08:38:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DCcQSi005091; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:38:26 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DCcQuR005079; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:38:26 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 13 Sep 2002 12:38:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20020913123823.5668.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: yesterdays work commute X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) JTB lamented here tale of commuting woe: >hello everyone. >i never have been blessed with the opportunity to share of my morning >commute. ... >(most of you know my gear usually consist of street clothes, boots, gloves, >and a helmet.) [Dave] FIX this. get a real motorcycle jacket & pants at the minimum... Check out the Aerostich, minimal interference with office attire, very good protection. Street clothes won't help you in a get off. If you can afford the Purple machine, you can afford good gear... Or, would you rather spend the money on skin grafts ?... ... > i approach the stop sign i see a car behind me. i make my stop. no traffic. >i prepare to turn. still giving the whole throttle/clutch thing. during the >next 1/10 of a mile stretch approaching a red light. the lady behind me >tries to pass me on the left. its a pretty wide section of road; however, i >was in the left part of our lane. there were two groups of kids waiting for >the bus -- one on each side of the road. i notice her trying to get around >me. i turn around and yell 'what are YOU doing??' [Dave] tough to hear you yell through the helmet... so I've heard. and then it hit me that >she was actually trying to pass me to get to the the red light. so i yelled >'what ARE you doing??' cuz i couldnt believe what she was trying to do. >within seconds im at the red light (which stays red for at least 3 minutes). >i shut off the bike and get off. i walk back to her and politely put my hand >over my heart area and say 'did i do something wrong?' in my most innocent >voice. [Dave] Why? did you think that you would somehow change this person's ways? Did you think that you could possibly impart some great life wisdom upon them ? (yet loud enough for her to hear me since she had her window up and >her hand up as if she wasnt interested in hearing me.) so i looked around >her hand and said 'DID i do something wrong?' she says 'YOU NEED TO LEARN >HOW TO DRIVE' *woah* (im thinking 1. im driving in my development, what >are you doing here? 2. i was going 10-15 mph in a 1/10 mile section of >road, how fast do you want me to go approaching the clear red light?) so i >said while pointing at the light 'the light is red, where WERE you going?' >she kinda just sneared and tried not to look at me. so i said 'WHERE were you >going??' she put up her hand again to not listen to me. (it didnt make me >stop talking the first time not sure why she thought it would work again!) >so i walked back to the bike and got on. i still had to wait another minute >for the light to turn green. [Dave] J, it sounds like you're (or were) suffering from T.M.E (too much estrogen). A confrontation with the offender was not in order here. Further, it was unwise and dangerous. This person was in a bigger hurry than you, way bigger. What possible impact would it have been to let the yenta in front of you & roll on your merry way to the work parking lot ? While I don't want to point the finger at you, I am going to do some finger wagging... collectively, here at DCC, we *HATE* left lane turtles, and their ilk. Don't hold up a driver that is intent on passing you, even if you can't see around it. If their insisting on being a blocker for you, let them. These kinds of disciplinary actions can result in physical confrontations, because people tend to act differently behind the wheel / bars (passive aggressive), taking our their frustrations from feelings of powerlessness on those who would 'wrong' them on the road. A lot of traffic cops have passive aggressive behavior patterns. Anyway, my point is, next time, shake your helmet, move right & wave them in front of you. That way, on the off chance that there's a cop up the road, the cop will pay attention to THEM, not you.... i go straight into my work parking lot and she >makes her left. >to make the story better --- her kid was in the car and she was driving a >volvo. [Dave] Hmmph... Usually I see this behavior in Lexii operators... Ride safe. Dave ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 09:11:58 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DDBwSi005290; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:11:58 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DDBv9O005277; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:11:57 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: B & N Night Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:11:00 -0500 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623049525BD@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: B & N Night Thread-Index: AcJbJx0tkUxx16OaQm652roMVFVOUQ== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id g8DDBuSi005260 Hey Nick, Scott. Likewise, and a nice cool night for a ride too. George Cole >>> Nicholas Thompson 09/13/02 08:19AM >>> Scott, George, It was good to meet you guys lastnight. Finally get to put some faces with the names. There was a pretty large turnout of bikes there. Perhaps next Thursday we can do it again... rgds, Nick From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 09:21:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DDLXSi005383; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:21:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DDLUlQ005364; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:21:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004a01c25b29$525cdec0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" , References: <20020913123823.5668.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Subject: Re: yesterdays work commute Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:26:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ----- Original Message ----- From: > JTB lamented here tale of commuting woe: > > >hello everyone. > >i never have been blessed with the opportunity to share of my morning > >commute. ... > >(most of you know my gear usually consist of street clothes, boots, gloves, > >and a helmet.) > > [Dave] FIX this. get a real motorcycle jacket & pants at the minimum... Check out the Aerostich, minimal interference with office attire, very good protection. Street clothes won't help you in a get off. If you can afford the Purple machine, you can afford good gear... Or, would you rather spend the money on skin grafts ?... > Not just yes, but hell yes, upgrade the protective gear. I would point out that Aerostich is a "premium" brand, not available in shops, etc., etc., and the price of admission is quite steep, although they do come up on eBay from time to time. Off the rack most of them are sized for the males of the species too. To get a good fit, you'll probably have to have it custom made up in Duluth. There are lots of other options in gear offering comparable protection. Motoport (www.motoport.com) and Joe Rocket are a couple that come to mind. The Joe Rocket stuff has taken a few steps up in quality in the last few years. Check out www.motorcyclegearreviews.com for the range of apparel that's available. I commuted in Joe Rocket jacket and overpants from about a year, then got a used 'Stich, then sold it this Spring on eBay for more than I paid and bought new an Ultra II Motoport jacket and pants combo. Motoport also has the Canyon line, which is lighter weight than the Ultra II. I can get in and out of any of this (JR, 'Stich, Motoport) in less than a minute, with office attire underneath. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 09:32:31 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DDWVSi005590; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:32:31 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DDWUrj005583; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:32:30 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <008201c25b29$ffb2f460$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "S. Russell" To: , , Cc: "Thompson, Nicholas" References: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A6419623049525BD@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> Subject: Re: B & N Night Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:31:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Was a good night to be out there, good and brisk on the way home. Wish we could get more out there but I am sure they do live far away. Good to meet you all, and look, its another purple motorcycle, but not cute lol Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: Re: B & N Night > Hey Nick, Scott. > > Likewise, and a nice cool night for a ride too. > > George Cole > > >>> Nicholas Thompson 09/13/02 08:19AM >>> > Scott, George, > > It was good to meet you guys lastnight. Finally get > to put some faces with the names. There was a pretty > large turnout of bikes there. Perhaps next Thursday > we can do it again... > > > rgds, > > Nick > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 09:36:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DDalSi005674; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:36:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DDal8D005666; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:36:47 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020913133644.53991.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 06:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: It's contagious! To: dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Congrats, Lisa (and Scott and Aki)! Hopefully that luck will rub off on me. I'm awaiting word on whether I'll get a contracting gig over at AOL right now. A previous opportunity like this didn't pan out for me, but I have my fingers crossed this time. :^) Chris Weaver --- Lisa Goddard wrote: > From: "S. Russell" > Subject: Jobs > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:33:15 -0400 > > Well I guess the luck rubbed off on me today. In > the last couple of days of > posts people were talking about interviews. I > myself had one this week, and > will start the job on Monday. > > I start as an apprentice mechanic at Cycles USA in > Rockville. This will > give me a chance to learn more and ride more. > Hurray for me. > > Scott Russell > 1984 Honda CB700SC Nighthawk S > > > > I start a new gig on the 23rd of this month. > Unfortunately my gig has > nothing to do with motorcycles and I don't think I > will even be able to > commute much on mine due to the monkey-suit > requirement. > > Lisa Goddard > > > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 09:45:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DDj6Si005771; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:45:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DDj5Wx005766; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:45:05 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 06:45:02 -0700 From: To: Fish Flowers Cc: DC-Cycles Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) Sender: cvkgpena@XXXXXX Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: 65.36.86.136 Try this: - Approach corner at high speed with eyes bulging - Downshift (one gear at a time) and blip throttle at the same time - Grab a handful of front brake, enough to fully compress the front forks and bring the rear wheel off the ground - Trail the front brake as late and as deep into the corner as possible as you're tipping it in and leaning it over - After your sphincter muscles have relaxed, roll the throttle back on %^) Chuck On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:30:49 -0500 (CDT) Fish Flowers wrote: Newbie question... How do y'all brake when you're approaching a known slow bit? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 09:59:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DDxNSi005881; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:59:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DDxNju005869; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 09:59:23 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514CD4@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'Carl Schelin'" , "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'carl@XXXXXX'" Subject: The geezer Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:04:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain > > Wha--at, there's a fourth Carl? > bwahahahah. "The Sage". How about "The geezer" :-) [Custer, Carl] Might be truer than we know. Anyone here born before November 1940? > > Rocket scientists :^D > Harumph. There are no "rocket scientists" here at Headquarters. I'm a > computer geek. I bite the heads off of NT admins. [Custer, Carl] Yeah, it was a stretch. > He said "Northern Virginia". I case you didn't know, NOVA is fairly large. > > Specifically "_where_ in Northern Virginia". If he's in the Woodbridge > area, > maybe we can comiserate about the strip mining of Dale Blvd. Since he's in > > Arlington, he won't know about Dale Blvd unless I mention it. [Custer, Carl] Yeah, it was a stretch. (Note to self: Do not poke the bear nor the Evil Overlord. 8^) > > > Olde Weird Carl (in Bethesda) > Olde is right. He has to be older than dirt :-) [Custer, Carl] Slightly younger. But, among the gray beards here, I was the oldest: http://www.martnet.com/~mosborne/NOE50/index.htm From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:02:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DE23Si005944; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:02:03 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DE224N005936; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:02:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 13 Sep 2002 14:02:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20020913140201.23842.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: The geezer X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) Codger Carl asked : > Might be truer than we know. > Anyone here born before November 1940? [Dave] Dude. Even my parents aren't that old... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:02:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DE2FSi005977; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:02:15 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DE2F1D005972; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:02:15 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <5E6C9A26CC7FD611B50500508B8B4BD5192E09@SERVER1> From: Rich Hall To: dc-cycles list Subject: RE: yesterdays work commute Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:03:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does this mean Lisa could commute on the bike in her monkey suit w/ that over top? -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 9:27 AM To: dc-cycles list; sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: yesterdays work commute I can get in and out of any of this (JR, 'Stich, Motoport) in less than a minute, with office attire underneath. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:02:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DE2cSi006015; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:02:38 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DE2cj6006010; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:02:38 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:04:28 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: pattonme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Jobs Message-ID: <32CFE46C.1314B3E6.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In a message dated Thu, 12 Sep 2002 8:03:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, pattonme@XXXXXX writes: > > > > I start as an apprentice mechanic at Cycles USA in Rockville. This > > will give me a chance to learn more and ride more. Hurray for me. > > and here I've been trying to convince Manassas Honda, MFI, or > Cyclesport (Alex) to do the same thing. "Sorry, too late in the season > to bother training you. Come back in Feb" Is it something > I said???!?!!???? > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > http://news.yahoo.com Hey Matt, keep working on CycleSport. They're one mechanic down again. He was killed in an auto accident last month. :-( And Pete is all by himself again. Scooter From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:05:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DE5KSi006099; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:05:20 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DE5K23006088; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:05:20 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20020913140518.54849.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 07:05:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: New SV650, SV1000, GSXR1000 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Check it out!!! http://www.moto-station.com/article.php?sid=544 It's in french, but you can always plug the address into babelfish.altavista.com and get a translation. Chris Weaver __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:07:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DE71Si006146; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:07:01 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DE70sX006133; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:07:00 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:07:10 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX To: lisagoddard@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: It's contagious! Message-ID: <3BC4CCE9.2577FF1F.0C9D3659@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It's called, "take in clothes and leave at the office" or "Aerostitch". ;-) Congrats though. Scooter In a message dated Thu, 12 Sep 2002 8:46:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, lisagoddard@XXXXXX writes: > I start a new gig on the 23rd of this month. Unfortunately my gig has > nothing to do with motorcycles and I don't think I will > even be able to > commute much on mine due to the monkey-suit requirement. > > Lisa Goddard From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:36:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DEaOSi006365; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:36:25 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DEa4NG006345; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:36:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <002301c25b33$bbce14a0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Check those mirrors when slowing/stopping Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:40:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 This morning I was nearly torpedoed by a BMW on 395. I guess he wasn't paying attention to the sudden slow down. Glancing in my mirrors I realized the following car is not going to make it, so I swerved up beside the car in front of me. The BMW stopped in the space where I would have been. A good reason to have your mirrors adjusted to see directly behind you and less off to the sides, which you can survey with a head check. Another dividend-paying lesson of the MSF: check those mirrors when slowing or stopping. Paul in DC From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:36:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DEaXSi006401; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:36:33 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DEaSNZ006382; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:36:28 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1ac.85ed5f1.2ab351e7@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:36:23 EDT Subject: Re: Braking (NOT rear braking) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/12/2002 9:44:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pattonme@XXXXXX writes: > you mean like cruisers? yep. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:43:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DEhNSi006461; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:43:23 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DEhMa2006453; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:43:22 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <30.2cd9b276.2ab35380@aol.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:43:12 EDT Subject: Re: yesterdays work commute To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/13/2002 8:03:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jennthebiker@XXXXXX writes: > however, i > was in the left part of our lane. No, you were in the left part of YOUR lane! Other then that, good for you! John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:45:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DEjISi006511; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:45:18 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DEjI1J006503; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:45:18 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Jim Shoemaker Subject: Re: yesterdays work commute To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.5.7 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:45:11 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 13 Sep 2002 12:38:23 -0000 sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > JTB lamented here tale of commuting woe: > > [Dave] J, it sounds like you're (or were) suffering from T.M.E (too much > estrogen). A confrontation with the offender was not in order here. > Further, it was unwise and dangerous. This person was in a bigger hurry > than you, way bigger. What possible impact would it have been to let the > yenta in front of you & roll on your merry way to the work parking lot ? > While I don't want to point the finger at you, I am going to do some > finger wagging... collectively, here at DCC, we *HATE* left lane turtles, > and their ilk. Don't hold up a driver that is intent on passing you, even > if you can't see around it. If their insisting on being a blocker for you, > let them. > It sounds like from jtb's original description of the road that there was *only one lane* for travel in that direction, so she wasn't being a left lane turtle. Sounds like Ms. ovloV was doing a bit of lane sharing of her own and without the permission of jtb. I think she (jtb) was justified in her actions as long as she *fully* understands the risk (and you're right, it's very risky) of such a confrontation. --Jim From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:47:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DEllSi006554; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:47:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DElkMW006548; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:47:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 13 Sep 2002 14:47:45 -0000 Message-ID: <20020913144745.3610.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Check those mirrors when slowing/stopping X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) An observant Paul warned - >This morning I was nearly torpedoed by a BMW on 395. I guess he wasn't >paying attention to the sudden slow down. [Dave] glad you're ok. Glancing in my mirrors I realized >the following car is not going to make it, so I swerved up beside the car in >front of me. The BMW stopped in the space where I would have been. A good >reason to have your mirrors adjusted to see directly behind you and less off >to the sides, which you can survey with a head check. >Another dividend-paying lesson of the MSF: check those mirrors when slowing >or stopping. [Dave] The same thing happened to me last year on Kingstowne Blvd. MF was doing at least 60, I did the same thing you did, as the moron came to a 4 wheel lockup stop 3 feet from the rear bumper of the cage in front. We had a heart to heart talk in which he assured me he would not drive in close proximity to me again. And yes, thank you MSF instructors for drilling home lots of very important life saving skills. Dave >Paul in DC ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Powered by Wild On Web: Free POP Mail Access - Access your E-mail from Anywhere in the World! http://www.wildonweb.com |Awards|Money|Bank|Credit|Dating|Games|Jokes|Vitamins|Magazines|Diet| |Bookstore|News|Babies|Cards|Homepages|Hobbies|... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:55:06 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DEt6Si006631; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:55:06 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DEt6n0006624; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:55:06 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:58:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Huh... 90-93 VFR, only $77.25! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Great deal on a 90-93 VFR (not sure which year...) http://shop.store.yahoo.com/azmotorsports/9093vfr750.html -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 10:57:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DEvjSi006684; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:57:45 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DEvjoi006676; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:57:45 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20020913105512.01feeeb8@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 10:57:37 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Check those mirrors when slowing/stopping In-Reply-To: <20020913144745.3610.qmail@server445.gisol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:47 PM 9/13/2002 +0000, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >And yes, thank you MSF instructors for drilling home lots of very >important life saving skills. > >Dave yup same thing happened to me. I *always* check my six while stopped at a light and allow myself enough room to move alongside the car in front of me should the BDC coming up behind me suffer a brain fart. I *always* keep the bike in first at stop lights just for that very reason. When things happen, they happen *fast*. There may be no time to pull in the clutch and shift into first. -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Sep 13 11:06:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8DF6lSi006948; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:06:47 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g8DF6k38006940; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:06:46 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: 13 Sep 2002 15:06:44 -0000 Message-ID: <20020913150644.9375.qmail@server445.gisol.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: sdave@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: yesterdays work commute X-Mailer: WildOnWeb WebMail X-Originating-IP: xn90.emc.com (168.159.1.90) ... >> While I don't want to point the finger at you, I am going to do some >> finger wagging... ... >It sounds like from jtb's original description of the ro