From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 1 07:05:28 2001 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 07:05:19 EDT Subject: Re: Panache To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 8/31/2001 several folks wrote something to the effect: > I think the problem with sintered pads is that they > get too hot, Ah but you miss the point. X momentum converts to Y heat to come to a stop. So the faster you generate heat in the brakes the faster you stop. To stop from X speed you will generate Y heat. Sintered pads cannot change that formula. As I said there are many things that may be happening, but not _more_ heat. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 1 09:01:00 2001 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 06:00:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: What to buy. Was: Group garage progress To: Todd Peer , AA DC Cycles --- Todd Peer wrote: > thanks, chuck....but unless it is equipped with that > aftermarket 6 gallon gas tank, i'll pass. stopping every > 110 miles blows, especially when gas stations can be 130 > miles apart! > > =----------------------------- > > Now to Toms current quandry. I don't get the mileage > argument at all. > Unless you plan to do some extensive Long Distance > riding, you don't need a > super-duper range. I consistantly get 110 miles before I > start to worry. > Which is to say, while riding for 110 miles I am > completely not bothered by > gasoline mileage. It's all grins. And besides, the > rides we take average > only around 300 miles, so you you are talking about two > (2!!) fuel stops. > Combine one with lunch and it's really a non-issue. dude. i remember making stops after 60, 70, 80 miles in very rural areas so that the fueltank-challenged can reload. that's less than half of an average leg of a 996 (~170 mile range) or rr (same). the superhawk gets the WORST gas mileage and has the smallest tank. honda had its head up its ass when it designed this one. it may be all grins for YOU, but some of us would like to keep moving! ;) if i buy a superhawk, there is literally zero chance that i won't put the larger tank on it. now if only someone would make one out of a more cost-friendly material! -- tg (venting because todd got to finish the distillery tour without me--->prick!) p.s. dan kenney: what's the range on that TL of yours and what about it makes it worth $1500 more than bluebook? give us an idea of the vehicle history, i.e., other than scheduled service, what has been undertaken by any factory-authorized facility or shop? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 1 10:29:03 2001 From: "DAN KENNEY" To: t_gimer@XXXXXX, toddbpeer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: What to buy. Was: Group garage progress Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 14:28:56








>p.s. dan kenney: what's the range on that TL of yours and
>what about it makes it worth $1500 more than bluebook?
>give us an idea of the vehicle history, i.e., other than
>scheduled service, what has been undertaken by any
>factory-authorized facility or shop?
 
My TL has a range of  130 miles not counting running at all on reserve.   As for the "asking" price : low mileage, race stands, cover and excellent condition account for the "asking" price. Go to Kelly Blue Book : Retail:http://www.kellybluebook.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.mr?kbb;244592&;rc;r&154&1997;Suzuki;TL1000SV;421000;16205
 
 
As for the maintenance: I  perform all routine maintenance ( as I have done for over 20 years) 2 recalls were done when 1 month old , 1 at Coleman Powersports, 1 at Atlantic Cycle. I am convinced that my 12 year old daughter is a better mechanic than anyone at either of those shops.  Only other thing done was to replace tires at 5300 miles. I removed the rims and had the new ones mounted and balanced at Clinton Cycles,
 
 
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From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 1 10:50:51 2001 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Tom Gimer" , "AA DC Cycles" Subject: Re: What to buy. Was: Group garage progress Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 10:47:36 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" > > =----------------------------- > > > > Now to Toms current quandry. I don't get the mileage > > argument at all. > > Unless you plan to do some extensive Long Distance > > riding, you don't need a > > super-duper range. I consistantly get 110 miles before I > > start to worry. > > Which is to say, while riding for 110 miles I am > > completely not bothered by > > gasoline mileage. It's all grins. And besides, the > > rides we take average > > only around 300 miles, so you you are talking about two > > (2!!) fuel stops. > > Combine one with lunch and it's really a non-issue. > > dude. i remember making stops after 60, 70, 80 miles in > very rural areas so that the fueltank-challenged can > reload. that's less than half of an average leg of a 996 > (~170 mile range) or rr (same). the superhawk gets the > WORST gas mileage and has the smallest tank. honda had its > head up its ass when it designed this one. > > it may be all grins for YOU, but some of us would like to > keep moving! ;) if i buy a superhawk, there is literally > zero chance that i won't put the larger tank on it. now if > only someone would make one out of a more cost-friendly > material! > > > -- > tg (venting because todd got to finish the distillery tour > without me--->prick!) I knew you were going to say something like this. In areas I'm not familiar with, I do want to stop and make sure I have enough gas. I can understand how that affects other riders because I've been on that side too (ST1100 out ranges your piddly ~170 mile range), but honestly it never bothers me. I just look at the stop as an opportunity to rest a little and reflect on the last segment.. So, get yourself a $5000 SH and spend the extra $1800 for the tank and paint work and keep your range up. Do they even make a tank for the TL? Todd (Springfield, VA) From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 1 13:54:17 2001 Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 14:03:10 -0400 Subject: free gear classifieds From: David Cross To: http://www.motorcyclegearreview.com/classifieds Its empty now but hopefully it will fill up. dave From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 1 15:00:45 2001 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:00:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: What to buy. Was: Group garage progress To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Todd Peer wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Gimer" > > dude. i remember making stops after 60, 70, 80 miles > > in very rural areas so that the fueltank-challenged can > > reload. that's less than half of an average leg of a > > 996 (~170 mile range) or rr (same). the superhawk gets > > the WORST gas mileage and has the smallest tank. honda > > had its head up its ass when it designed this one. > > > > it may be all grins for YOU, but some of us would like > > to keep moving! > > > I knew you were going to say something like this. In > areas I'm not familiar with, I do want to stop and make > sure I have enough gas. I can understand how that affects > other riders because I've been on that side too (ST1100 > out ranges your piddly ~170 mile range), but honestly it > never bothers me. I just look at the stop as an > opportunity to rest a little and reflect on the last > segment.. piddly? PIDDLY? ;) that's just about as far as i care to go in one stretch on the torture rack! you're right though (and i clearly was just kidding after all), and i also don't care if we stop. every 50 miles is really just about perfect....but often we are trying to meet a schedule and that's just not possible. > So, get yourself a $5000 SH and spend the extra $1800 for > the tank and paint > work and keep your range up. Do they even make a tank > for the TL? well, i'm sure you'll be giggling at me, but i just ordered the parts i believe i'll need to be back up to speed. i imagine they'll be here friday, so i may get out next weekend. there is really no chance of selling this thing until its running right..... it's still under warranty until may '02 though, and that should help in finding somebody to take it off my hands. then, i'll look to steal a superhawk or tl during the winter months for $4000-4500. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 2 11:03:29 2001 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 08:03:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Corbett B Subject: Any racing local to DC today? (Sunday) To: DC Cycles I rode with Fast Lanes for their Poker Run yesterday and had a good time... Good turnout..maybe 70 bikes? The original plan was to split the group into 3 groups...but they all bunched up into one l-o-n-g string of bikes snaking their way through Sperryville, Haymarket, and over Thornton Gap.. It was a squidfest on I-66 as were routed to Hooters in Fairfax...plenty of weaving,wheelies, and squids riding with their legs over their handlebars...and a few of us in the back of the pack just backing off and shaking our heads. anyway....The weather is too nice today and there MUST be some motorcycle racing going out there SOMEWHERE (local to DC) Buehler? Anyone? Anyone? ===== -Corbett '99 BMW K1200RS AMA Member BMW Motorcycle Owners Association Member __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 2 15:18:13 2001 From: Dougoates@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 15:18:00 EDT Subject: FS: 2000 Ducati Monster 750 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Excellent. Only 1000 miles. Yellow. Factory service at 600 miles. $5,500 obo. Thousands below Kelly Blue Book. Photo at the following URL: http:\\www.geocities.com\zone3velo\ducati.JPG Contact Doug at 202-261-9308. Thanks! From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 2 22:07:47 2001 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 19:07:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Any racing local to DC today? (Sunday) To: Corbett B , DC Cycles --- Corbett B wrote: > I rode with Fast Lanes for their Poker Run yesterday > and had a good time... Good turnout..maybe 70 bikes? > The original plan was to split the group into 3 > groups...but they all bunched up into one l-o-n-g > string of bikes snaking their way through Sperryville, > Haymarket, and over Thornton Gap.. It was a squidfest > on I-66 as were routed to Hooters in Fairfax...plenty > of weaving,wheelies, and squids riding with their legs > over their handlebars...and a few of us in the back of > the pack just backing off and shaking our heads. This is why I bailed out at the first gas stop (the Mobil Gas station right after people left Fast Lanes). I saw several examples of squidly behavior, and everyone all bunched up, plus the lack of directions. Not that I'm trying to criticize the people who were on the ride, but I could tell I would not be comfortable at all riding with the group. Glad you didn't say that there were any accidents. When they mentioned Flint Hill Rd and 211, I was thinking of last weekend when I saw two different accidents on those roads. Sorry I couldn't reply about any rides today, was helping a friend to move. Tomorrow looks to be another great day, hope people get to do more riding! Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 2 22:50:22 2001 From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: Labor Day Ride? Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2001 22:50:17 -0400 Anyone feel like stepping up to lead a group ride tomorrow? I think I'll be heading down to Joplin Road or something (if anyone has any better rides -speak up) in the mid morning. Meet at the the Holiday Inn Express, Springfield (bear hard right off the Old Keene Mill Road exit from 95S) at 10am. If nobody expresses any interest on list, then screw ya I'll be leaving right from home. Rob Curtis Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ Never be afraid to try something new; remember, amateurs built the Ark, and professionals built the Titanic. __________________ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 3 00:07:28 2001 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 00:07:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Any racing local to DC today? (Sunday) At 10:07 PM 9/2/2001, Louis F. Caplan wrote: > I saw several examples of squidly behavior, and >everyone all bunched up, plus the lack of directions. I planned to go at least see the dc-cycles folks I know - but when I got outside for my pre-flight inspection, I saw that the chain was pretty slack. That combined with a recent tendency to hit neutral prompted a maintenance day. Oil change, chain cleaning & tightening and general close inspection. Wrapped up the day with a short ride through Fauquier. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 N38.84810 W77.44614 From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 3 07:55:18 2001 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 04:55:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Re: Any racing local to DC today? (Sunday) To: DC Cycles For the most part, the ride was not that squidly. The group was too bunched up for people to try any heroic manuevers. Once we got to the mountain, people spread out and ran the mountain at their own pace. We were warned that a cop was waiting at the top to catch any speeders, so speeds were kept down a little bit. There was one minor accident at the beginning of the ride, at the traffic light where 15 and 55 meet. When the traffic light turned red, one of the riders in the back had trouble stopping in time and dropped their bike. He was okay and it looked like the bike was okay except for a bent rear brake. I was near the back, riding behind Rick when we hit 95 on the way home. I missed the antics described by the other lister. All and all, it was a fun ride and I would do it again. Keith > This is why I bailed out at the first gas stop (the > Mobil Gas station right > after people left Fast Lanes). I saw several > examples of squidly behavior, and > everyone all bunched up, plus the lack of > directions. Not that I'm trying to > criticize the people who were on the ride, but I > could tell I would not be > comfortable at all riding with the group. Glad you > didn't say that there were > any accidents. When they mentioned Flint Hill Rd > and 211, I was thinking of > last weekend when I saw two different accidents on > those roads. > > Sorry I couldn't reply about any rides today, was > helping a friend to move. > Tomorrow looks to be another great day, hope people > get to do more riding! > > Louis > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 3 08:47:58 2001 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 08:48:24 -0400 From: Jim Shoemaker CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Any racing local to DC today? (Sunday) OK, I'll 'fess up. That was me (dammit!) And I was hanging out at the back so as to stay away from trouble, too :-( We're all sitting at the intersection waiting for the light. When it turns green people start taking off at a fairly quick pace, so I take off too not want to hold up the (few) people behind me. The light turns yellow, but it's a long one so I figure we have plenty of time to make it, but the guy in front of the guy in front of me decides we don't. Yikes! Hard on the brakes, and I move off the right to avoid bouncing of the rear tire of the bike in front of me. Well, being a typical intersection, lots of sand and gravel off the travel lines. I did however manage to sand-surf on a locked up front wheel for about 12 feet before gravity took over. Almost pulled it out, but still too inexperienced. The result was a mangled but still useable rear brake lever, a dent in the tank from the handlebars, and a bruised ego. Totally my fault. I failed to predict (SIPDE) that event. And I was following too closely. Thanks to the folks who picked the bike up off me and to Michael Jordan who stayed back for a while to make sure I was OK. I went back yesterday and ran the route again with just me and one other. Rubber side stayed down the whole time. Ran 211 about 6 times before heading back home. Think I stick to smaller groups for a while. --Jim Keith Lamond wrote: > > There was one minor accident at the beginning of the > ride, at the traffic light where 15 and 55 meet. From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 3 09:10:19 2001 From: "Tom Faigle" To: Subject: Harley for Sale Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 08:58:31 -0400 Is anyone here intrested or know of anyone looking for a Harley? My new Harley Low Rider is coming in this week and I haven't made any real effort to sell my '99 Sportster. (I guess I just like the bike too much, and really don't want to get rid of it until I break in and get used to the Low Rider). Anyway, I thought I'd mention it here, as I've seen a few posts on first bikes, and the Sportster is a great first bike. I'd like to sell it to someone who I "know" and will take care of it, and folks on this list seem to have a serious intrest in their bikes. Anyway, if you know somone who is intrested, e-mail me and I'll send the details (I'm also offering a small finders fee). Tom From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 3 12:56:01 2001 From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 12:55:58 EDT Subject: Paging Niv! Paging Niv! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --part1_113.41bed6f.28c5101e_boundary Hey Niv, Sean Jordan here. Please contact me off list or give me a call at (703)-450-1892. --part1_113.41bed6f.28c5101e_boundary Hey Niv, Sean Jordan here. Please contact me off list or give me a call at
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--part1_113.41bed6f.28c5101e_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 3 17:46:34 2001 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:46:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Re: Any racing local to DC today? (Sunday) To: Jim Shoemaker Cc: DC Cycles Glad to hear you are okay! I was second in line behind the guy who stopped, and I am very thankful that my SV has good brakes. I was so suprised by the quick stop that it took me a couple of seconds to realize something happenned behind me. By that time several riders were helping you up and everything appeared okay. I hope you enjoyed your trips up and down the mountain on 211 yesterday. While the group ride was fun, it would have been more fun doing it with just a couple of friends. You got to experience it the best way. Also, don't feel bad about dropping the bike. It happens to basically everyone starting to ride, and it usually happens in a parking lot or trying to stop. Learn from the experience, try to not to repeat the mistake (can be hard), and keep riding. Keith Lil Red SV 01 --- Jim Shoemaker wrote: > OK, I'll 'fess up. That was me (dammit!) And I was > hanging out at the back so > as to stay away from trouble, too :-( We're all > sitting at the intersection > waiting for the light. When it turns green people > start taking off at a fairly > quick pace, so I take off too not want to hold up > the (few) people behind me. > The light turns yellow, but it's a long one so I > figure we have plenty of time > to make it, but the guy in front of the guy in front > of me decides we don't. > Yikes! Hard on the brakes, and I move off the right > to avoid bouncing of the > rear tire of the bike in front of me. Well, being a > typical intersection, lots > of sand and gravel off the travel lines. I did > however manage to sand-surf on a > locked up front wheel for about 12 feet before > gravity took over. Almost pulled > it out, but still too inexperienced. The result > was a mangled but still > useable rear brake lever, a dent in the tank from > the handlebars, and a bruised > ego. Totally my fault. I failed to predict (SIPDE) > that event. And I was > following too closely. Thanks to the folks who > picked the bike up off me and to > Michael Jordan who stayed back for a while to make > sure I was OK. > > I went back yesterday and ran the route again with > just me and one other. > Rubber side stayed down the whole time. Ran 211 > about 6 times before heading > back home. Think I stick to smaller groups for a > while. > > --Jim > > Keith Lamond wrote: > > > > > There was one minor accident at the beginning of > the > > ride, at the traffic light where 15 and 55 meet. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 09:33:02 2001 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 06:32:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David Subject: Cruisers? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --0-1817712933-999610365=:40793 Are there any members with cruisers who might be doing rides anytime soon? I am new to DC Cycles so don't know what the makeup of the group is. David Lusk Honda Shadow Aero 1100 --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1817712933-999610365=:40793

Are there any members with cruisers who might be doing rides anytime soon?  I am new to DC Cycles so don't know what the makeup of the group is.

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Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-1817712933-999610365=:40793-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 14:08:37 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "dc-cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: Garage space in Silver Spring Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:08:10 -0400 Since some of you have been looking for garage space I thought I'd make the following offer: Location: Silver Spring off East-West HWY, close to Rock Creek Park, Georgia Ave., 16th St., 5 min. from 495 Facility: I live in an apt. building and I rent an indoor parking spot. The parking is enclosed and entrance is with a magnetic card or on foot through the building. I have a locking metal cabinet in my parking spot but no "shop tools". Basically this could be a good storage place for a bike for however long you need it. You could store a few small items with it as well. The place has been very safe for me for the last few years. Price: Cheap - I pay $35 per month, so we split that on a per-bike basis. There easily room there for 4 bikes. Contact me offlist (rydin@XXXXXX). Niv BMW F650ST _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 14:24:34 2001 Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 14:18:17 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: David CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cruisers? --------------2378FD650C6ACD4DBFAE3E9C Well, I reckon my Harley FLHS qualifies as a cruiser, not enough bags and geegaws to run with the heavy touring bikes. I'll be doing a ride around Sept 20 - off to Rochester MI for stop #1, then probably wander south down the banks of the Ol'Miss, hook a left into 'Bama, visit a pal, continue on to TN to visit my darlin' daughter, ride the twisties into Ashville NC and sorta wend my way down to Salisbury NC, more relitives, and then blast east to the Outer Banks (OBX) for a week of sun & bikini babes. I might come home, might not :-) Bill David wrote: > Are there any members with cruisers who might be doing rides anytime > soon? I am new to DC Cycles so don't know what the makeup of the > group is. > > David Lusk > > Honda Shadow Aero 1100 > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger. --------------2378FD650C6ACD4DBFAE3E9C Well, I reckon my Harley FLHS qualifies as a cruiser, not enough bags and geegaws to run with the heavy touring bikes.  I'll be doing a ride around Sept 20 - off to Rochester MI for stop #1, then probably wander south down the banks of the Ol'Miss, hook a left into 'Bama, visit a pal, continue on to TN to visit my darlin' daughter, ride the twisties into Ashville NC and sorta wend my way down to Salisbury NC, more relitives, and then blast east to the Outer Banks (OBX) for a week of sun & bikini babes.  I might come home, might not :-)

Bill

David wrote:

Are there any members with cruisers who might be doing rides anytime soon?  I am new to DC Cycles so don't know what the makeup of the group is.

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--------------2378FD650C6ACD4DBFAE3E9C-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 14:54:04 2001 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: 1989 YSR50 Race Bike For Sale To: eara@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Well, everyone, I've decided that I just don't have enough time to devote to YSR racing in order to get the kind of results I want. Therefore, I'm placing my YSR for sale. Almost every modification that is EARA-legal for the stock class has been made. The bike is running great right now and is very competitive. I possess all of the street parts and these will be included in the deal, however there is no title with the bike. I am asking $1400 firm. Given all the add-ons, I think this is more than a fair price. I will also throw in a couple of gas canisters, a Ratio-Rite mixing cup, an extra rear sprocket, some 2-stroke oil, a 10'x10' paddock canopy and whatever other YSR stuff I have on hand. I am also selling a single-rail trailer that is the perfect size for hauling the YSR. This trailer has only been used to haul the YSR to Monrovia from Arlington, VA two times. It is virtually brand new. Price for this item is $200 firm. For those beginners who have expressed interest in buying a bike, but haven't had much luck, this is the perfect one for you. Everything you need to go racing is on the bike and included in the deal. 1989 Yamaha YSR50: ------------------ Pro-Flo clip-ons Footpeg Risers Cut off footpegs Calamari Front fork brace Four custom frame sliders (+ one or two spares) Speedo drive replacer Calamari top triple clamp Dunlop TT91 rear tire New chain New crankshaft seal Calamari shock bushing Calamari swingarm bushings New rear sprocket - Monrovia gearing (38 I think) Bitchin' blue paint job Safety-wired everything necessary (Probably a lot of little stuff I forgot) I have Airtech bodywork for it, but the lowers rub on the fork brace. If you take a dremel to the bodywork, that would solve the problem. It's running well and ready to race. Chris Weaver #24 cell (703)786-3286 home (703)527-5535 email chris_vtr@XXXXXX ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 15:32:25 2001 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:30:34 -0400 To: dshaub@XXXXXX, Jennifer Addie , "Jordan, Michael" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Weather control....cool! http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991101 Sean From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 15:39:48 2001 From: "Aaron Ward" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: How do fork seals work? Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:28:02 -0400 Hi all, I have a question about the forks on my '87 CBR600F. The fork seals started leaking, so I had them replaced. Upon replacement, I was told by the mechanic that the [insert various complicated official names of fork internals] were wearing out, and it wasn't guaranteed that the fork seals would last very long. I wasn't sure what this meant, i.e., will normal use (no wheelieing, no bottoming out, just putting around like a puss) still lead to eventual fork seal leakage? Or, did the mechanic mean that my bike can't take regular-use bottoming out anymore like it could 15 years ago (when he said that the fork seals wouldn't last very long)? I never took apart my forks before. The springs apparently have lost a lot of their, er, spring, and I end up bottoming out the forks on hard cornering or if I don't take utmost care when entering driveways or coming to the bottom of a hill. I haven't checked static sag, but I'm betting it's way low. Bottoming out is bad and will blow the seals, or that's what I understand. There is no preload adjustment, so I can't do anything (besides putting in spacers, which seems ludicrous since the springs are toast) to increase the preload. Also, I already went up from 10w to 15w fork oil, but this is not compensation enough for the soggy springs (I'm around 230 lbs). So here is the meat of my question: will replacing the fork springs with new springs from say, progressive or [insert suggestion of a good brand replacement fork spring] along with moving up to 20w fork oil protect my seals from blowing again? Or, will the hefty springs and heavier fork oil overburden the fork seals (in view of the already worn out fork internal parts) and still blow them out regardless? I checked http://www.mawonline.com and saw they have replacement Progressive springs, but I don't know if I can use those or if I will need a "heavy-duty" spring in view of my weight (how would I buy a "heavy-duty" spring if they don't sell one? How do I specify the guage/size etc?). Can anyone suggest whether I should invest in upgraded springs/oil potentially resulting in freedom to ride "spiritedly", or just forget it and ride like a puss all the time? This is my scondary bike, so I don't really care too much. It just sucks having the potential of leaky forks. But I don't want to upgrade if I'll just blow the seals anyway regardless of whether I bottom out (if other factors cause blown seals besides bottoming out). Thanks for your time, Aaron 97 CBR900RR 87 CBR600F _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 16:13:06 2001 From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles" , "Aaron Ward" Subject: RE: How do fork seals work? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:12:06 -0400 X-SLUIDL: A2767CC7-A13111D5-8E1D0060-08C770E5 You'll hear lots of info on this, but here's my 2 centavos: Fork seals should last a long time unless the fork tubes are dinged up. If they are (and it can be a pretty small ding, but visible to naked eye), the ding scratches the seals and they leak. Other internals shouldn't really matter. Oil weight and spring rate definitely don't matter. Bottoming out shouldn't affect the seals. OK, maybe it could, but unless you are doing eXtreme Air on ESPN2, forget it. Springs don't prevent bottoming out for all practical cases. I've never wore out fork springs, BTW. The thumb rule is that if you can set the sag correctly with reasonable preload, you're ok on your springs. OK, maybe that rule doesn't apply to the race track types, but it'll work for today. Bottoming out is prevented with correct viscosity fork oil and oil level, and, of course, dampening settings (and valving). Sometimes aftermarket valving is necessary to get right amount of plushness without harshness or bottoming. >From your description, I'd bet your problems are some combination of: -too little compression dampening (adjust the adjuster before paying for aftermarket revalving) -too low fork oil level -too low fork oil viscosity --jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Ward [mailto:aaronspencerward@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:28 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: How do fork seals work? > > > > Hi all, > > I have a question about the forks on my '87 CBR600F. The fork > seals started > leaking, so I had them replaced. Upon replacement, I was told by the > mechanic that the [insert various complicated official names of fork > internals] were wearing out, and it wasn't guaranteed that the fork seals > would last very long. > > I wasn't sure what this meant, i.e., will normal use (no wheelieing, no > bottoming out, just putting around like a puss) still lead to > eventual fork > seal leakage? Or, did the mechanic mean that my bike can't take > regular-use > bottoming out anymore like it could 15 years ago (when he said > that the fork > seals wouldn't last very long)? I never took apart my forks before. > > The springs apparently have lost a lot of their, er, spring, and I end up > bottoming out the forks on hard cornering or if I don't take utmost care > when entering driveways or coming to the bottom of a hill. I haven't > checked static sag, but I'm betting it's way low. Bottoming out > is bad and > will blow the seals, or that's what I understand. There is no preload > adjustment, so I can't do anything (besides putting in spacers, > which seems > ludicrous since the springs are toast) to increase the preload. Also, I > already went up from 10w to 15w fork oil, but this is not compensation > enough for the soggy springs (I'm around 230 lbs). > > So here is the meat of my question: will replacing the fork > springs with new > springs from say, progressive or [insert suggestion of a good brand > replacement fork spring] along with moving up to 20w fork oil protect my > seals from blowing again? Or, will the hefty springs and heavier > fork oil > overburden the fork seals (in view of the already worn out fork internal > parts) and still blow them out regardless? > > I checked http://www.mawonline.com and saw they have replacement > Progressive > springs, but I don't know if I can use those or if I will need a > "heavy-duty" spring in view of my weight (how would I buy a "heavy-duty" > spring if they don't sell one? How do I specify the guage/size > etc?). Can > anyone suggest whether I should invest in upgraded springs/oil > potentially > resulting in freedom to ride "spiritedly", or just forget it and > ride like a > puss all the time? This is my scondary bike, so I don't really care too > much. It just sucks having the potential of leaky forks. But I > don't want > to upgrade if I'll just blow the seals anyway regardless of > whether I bottom > out (if other factors cause blown seals besides bottoming out). > > Thanks for your time, > Aaron > 97 CBR900RR > 87 CBR600F > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 18:54:23 2001 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 18:54:01 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: FOR SALE: Original 84 VF500F... To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "'vfr-digest@XXXXXX'" FOR SALE: Original 84 VF500F Running with all original parts, and paint scheme. Titled in VA. Has a little over 22,000 miles. Good condition. Both manuals (Honda and Clymers) Great project bike! Already in good condition - I bought it with the intention of building it into a trackday bike, but I am to busy. $1000 obo Also for sale for $450 (willing to accept offers) BRAND NEW IN BOX Full Hindle VF500F 4 into 1 exhaust system. These are no long longer available to my knowledge. I purchased one of the last 4 known of, and this is what I paid. Please email me directly at cledford@XXXXXX if interested - I'm a digest mode guy and don't always review the updates. From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 19:11:59 2001 From: "Michael Jordan" To: Subject: Re: How do fork seals work? Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:15:57 -0400 Heavier oil and stiffer springs will definitely help the ride. Progressive and Works Performance are the two most popular aftermarket springs out there, and will cost very little to replace. All the seals do is to wipe the fork oil from the inner leg as it exits the slider (and thereby keep the oil in the leg) - there is almost no pressure on the seal under compression (all of the pressure is at the bottom of the leg) and rebound is limited by the spring and damping rates (thus limiting the pressure on the seal) - wheelying won't hurt your fork seals - steering head bearings, however, are another matter. A microscopic ding in the fork tube can eat a seal quicker than an Orca and is the major cause of seal failure. The best preventative is something that protects the fork leg from dings. I have a pair of UGLY neoprene wrap-around guards on my bike after two rounds of seals and one new set of fork legs - haven't had a problem since. Bikes seem to be set up for people in the 175lb range, and us larger types can definitely benefit from suspension modification - my GSX 1100 is SO much better after attention at both ends that it's hard to believe it's the same bike. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 19:29:47 2001 From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: Subject: Items for sale Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:28:52 -0400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." I have a chrome plated LP USA Race Swingarm stand for sale. It is like new. Will work on swing arms that have buttons installed. I paid $100.00 for it. I will let it go for $50.00. By the way, I have some GSXR 750 parts (end can, right and left foot peg assemblies) and a 96-99 GSXR Cylmer repair manual for sale on Ebay. I am trading in my 98 GSXR for a 2001 Yahama Fazer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 19:35:04 2001 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:34:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Conlin To: Subject: Smaller bike for sale? My girlfriend is looking for a smaller sport/standard bike to start riding with. We do some long weekends, and I think a 500cc wouldn't be a bad bike to start on provided it's a good fit for her, though we haven't ruled out something along the lines of an EX250. If anyone has, or has a good lead on, an EX250/500, GS500, or some other relatively modern bike in *trustworthy* shape, under $2k, please let me know. Thanks! -- Jeff Conlin Beltsville, MD '91 CB750 - 20k '84.5 VF500C (gone) dreaming of Geepers... From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 20:00:01 2001 From: "Tom Faigle" To: Cc: Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/04/01 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 19:59:42 -0400 David, I won't hold the Honda against you, as I ride a Harley! ;-) Seriously, most of the folks here (I think its like 75 or 80%) are sport bike riders. The rest of us ride various other types of bikes. BTW, I normally either ride with a small group of friends or with my HOG chapter. But I'm always open to riding with anyone who rides safe, sane, and sober. Tom Fairfax, VA '99 Harley 883 XL (for sale) '02 Harley FXDL ----- Original Message ----- From: "The dc-cycles list administrator" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:01 PM Subject: dc-cycles digest for 09/04/01 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list > (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. > =( \___/ )= > \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: > | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ > \ || || / > \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: > \| |/ dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX > |_| > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 06:32:45 -0700 (PDT) > From: David > Subject: Cruisers? > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > --0-1817712933-999610365=:40793 > > > Are there any members with cruisers who might be doing rides anytime soon? I am new to DC Cycles so don't know what the makeup of the group is. > > David Lusk > > Honda Shadow Aero 1100 > > > > --------------------------------- > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. > --0-1817712933-999610365=:40793 > >

Are there any members with cruisers who might be doing rides anytime soon?  I am new to DC Cycles so don't know what the makeup of the group is.

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> Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with href="http://rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/tag/?http://im.yahoo.com/">Yahoo! Messenger. > --0-1817712933-999610365=:40793-- > > _ _ _ _ > .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > > X-Apparently-From: > From: "rdrdr" > To: "dc-cycles \(E-mail\)" > Subject: Garage space in Silver Spring > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 14:08:10 -0400 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 > > Since some of you have been looking for garage space I thought I'd make the > following offer: > > Location: Silver Spring off East-West HWY, close to Rock Creek Park, Georgia > Ave., 16th St., 5 min. from 495 > > Facility: I live in an apt. building and I rent an indoor parking spot. The > parking is enclosed and entrance is with a magnetic card or on foot through > the building. > I have a locking metal cabinet in my parking spot but no "shop tools". > Basically this could be a good storage place for a bike for however long you > need it. You could store a few small items with it as well. > The place has been very safe for me for the last few years. > > Price: Cheap - I pay $35 per month, so we split that on a per-bike basis. > There easily room there for 4 bikes. > > > Contact me offlist (rydin@XXXXXX). > > Niv > BMW F650ST > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > _ _ _ _ > .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > > Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 14:18:17 -0400 > From: "William J. Huson" > To: David > CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Cruisers? > > > --------------2378FD650C6ACD4DBFAE3E9C > > Well, I reckon my Harley FLHS qualifies as a cruiser, not enough bags > and geegaws to run with the heavy touring bikes. I'll be doing a ride > around Sept 20 - off to Rochester MI for stop #1, then probably wander > south down the banks of the Ol'Miss, hook a left into 'Bama, visit a > pal, continue on to TN to visit my darlin' daughter, ride the twisties > into Ashville NC and sorta wend my way down to Salisbury NC, more > relitives, and then blast east to the Outer Banks (OBX) for a week of > sun & bikini babes. I might come home, might not :-) > > Bill > > David wrote: > > > Are there any members with cruisers who might be doing rides anytime > > soon? I am new to DC Cycles so don't know what the makeup of the > > group is. > > > > David Lusk > > > > Honda Shadow Aero 1100 > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > > Messenger. > > --------------2378FD650C6ACD4DBFAE3E9C > > > > Well, I reckon my Harley FLHS qualifies as a cruiser, not enough bags and > geegaws to run with the heavy touring bikes.  I'll be doing a ride > around Sept 20 - off to Rochester MI for stop #1, then probably wander > south down the banks of the Ol'Miss, hook a left into 'Bama, visit a pal, > continue on to TN to visit my darlin' daughter, ride the twisties into > Ashville NC and sorta wend my way down to Salisbury NC, more relitives, > and then blast east to the Outer Banks (OBX) for a week of sun & bikini > babes.  I might come home, might not :-) >

Bill >

David wrote: >

Are there any members with cruisers who might be > doing rides anytime soon?  I am new to DC Cycles so don't know what > the makeup of the group is. >

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> > > --------------2378FD650C6ACD4DBFAE3E9C-- > > > _ _ _ _ > .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:54:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chris Weaver > Subject: 1989 YSR50 Race Bike For Sale > To: eara@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Well, everyone, I've decided that I just don't have > enough time to devote to YSR racing in order to get > the kind of results I want. Therefore, I'm placing my > YSR for sale. > > Almost every modification that is EARA-legal for the > stock class has been made. The bike is running great > right now and is very competitive. I possess all of > the street parts and these will be included in the > deal, however there is no title with the bike. I am > asking $1400 firm. Given all the add-ons, I think this > is more than a fair price. I will also throw in a > couple of gas canisters, a Ratio-Rite mixing cup, an > extra rear sprocket, some 2-stroke oil, a 10'x10' > paddock canopy and whatever other YSR stuff I have on > hand. > > I am also selling a single-rail trailer that is the > perfect size for hauling the YSR. This trailer has > only been used to haul the YSR to Monrovia from > Arlington, VA two times. It is virtually brand new. > Price for this item is $200 firm. > > For those beginners who have expressed interest in > buying a bike, but haven't had much luck, this is the > perfect one for you. Everything you need to go racing > is on the bike and included in the deal. > > 1989 Yamaha YSR50: > ------------------ > Pro-Flo clip-ons > Footpeg Risers > Cut off footpegs > Calamari Front fork brace > Four custom frame sliders (+ one or two spares) > Speedo drive replacer > Calamari top triple clamp > Dunlop TT91 rear tire > New chain > New crankshaft seal > Calamari shock bushing > Calamari swingarm bushings > New rear sprocket - Monrovia gearing (38 I think) > Bitchin' blue paint job > Safety-wired everything necessary > (Probably a lot of little stuff I forgot) > > I have Airtech bodywork for it, but the lowers rub on > the fork brace. If you take a dremel to the bodywork, > that would solve the problem. It's running well and > ready to race. > > Chris Weaver #24 > cell (703)786-3286 > home (703)527-5535 > email chris_vtr@XXXXXX > > > ===== > Chris Weaver > VTR1000 YSR50 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > > _ _ _ _ > .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > > X-Sender: sjordan@XXXXXX > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 15:30:34 -0400 > To: dshaub@XXXXXX, Jennifer Addie , > "Jordan, Michael" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > From: Sean Jordan > Subject: Weather control....cool! > > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991101 > > Sean > > _ _ _ _ > .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > > X-Originating-IP: [204.227.241.8] > From: "Aaron Ward" > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: How do fork seals work? > Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 15:28:02 -0400 > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2001 19:28:02.0665 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6C24590:01C13577] > > > Hi all, > > I have a question about the forks on my '87 CBR600F. The fork seals started > leaking, so I had them replaced. Upon replacement, I was told by the > mechanic that the [insert various complicated official names of fork > internals] were wearing out, and it wasn't guaranteed that the fork seals > would last very long. > > I wasn't sure what this meant, i.e., will normal use (no wheelieing, no > bottoming out, just putting around like a puss) still lead to eventual fork > seal leakage? Or, did the mechanic mean that my bike can't take regular-use > bottoming out anymore like it could 15 years ago (when he said that the fork > seals wouldn't last very long)? I never took apart my forks before. > > The springs apparently have lost a lot of their, er, spring, and I end up > bottoming out the forks on hard cornering or if I don't take utmost care > when entering driveways or coming to the bottom of a hill. I haven't > checked static sag, but I'm betting it's way low. Bottoming out is bad and > will blow the seals, or that's what I understand. There is no preload > adjustment, so I can't do anything (besides putting in spacers, which seems > ludicrous since the springs are toast) to increase the preload. Also, I > already went up from 10w to 15w fork oil, but this is not compensation > enough for the soggy springs (I'm around 230 lbs). > > So here is the meat of my question: will replacing the fork springs with new > springs from say, progressive or [insert suggestion of a good brand > replacement fork spring] along with moving up to 20w fork oil protect my > seals from blowing again? Or, will the hefty springs and heavier fork oil > overburden the fork seals (in view of the already worn out fork internal > parts) and still blow them out regardless? > > I checked http://www.mawonline.com and saw they have replacement Progressive > springs, but I don't know if I can use those or if I will need a > "heavy-duty" spring in view of my weight (how would I buy a "heavy-duty" > spring if they don't sell one? How do I specify the guage/size etc?). Can > anyone suggest whether I should invest in upgraded springs/oil potentially > resulting in freedom to ride "spiritedly", or just forget it and ride like a > puss all the time? This is my scondary bike, so I don't really care too > much. It just sucks having the potential of leaky forks. But I don't want > to upgrade if I'll just blow the seals anyway regardless of whether I bottom > out (if other factors cause blown seals besides bottoming out). > > Thanks for your time, > Aaron > 97 CBR900RR > 87 CBR600F > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > _ _ _ _ > .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > > From: "Jon Strang" > To: "DC Cycles" , > "Aaron Ward" > Subject: RE: How do fork seals work? > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 16:12:06 -0400 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > X-SLUIDL: A2767CC7-A13111D5-8E1D0060-08C770E5 > > You'll hear lots of info on this, but here's my 2 centavos: > > Fork seals should last a long time unless the fork tubes are dinged up. If > they are (and it can be a pretty small ding, but visible to naked eye), the > ding scratches the seals and they leak. Other internals shouldn't really > matter. Oil weight and spring rate definitely don't matter. > > Bottoming out shouldn't affect the seals. OK, maybe it could, but unless > you are doing eXtreme Air on ESPN2, forget it. > > Springs don't prevent bottoming out for all practical cases. I've never > wore out fork springs, BTW. The thumb rule is that if you can set the sag > correctly with reasonable preload, you're ok on your springs. OK, maybe > that rule doesn't apply to the race track types, but it'll work for today. > Bottoming out is prevented with correct viscosity fork oil and oil level, > and, of course, dampening settings (and valving). Sometimes aftermarket > valving is necessary to get right amount of plushness without harshness or > bottoming. > > >From your description, I'd bet your problems are some combination of: > -too little compression dampening (adjust the adjuster before paying for > aftermarket revalving) > -too low fork oil level > -too low fork oil viscosity > > --jon > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Aaron Ward [mailto:aaronspencerward@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:28 PM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: How do fork seals work? > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have a question about the forks on my '87 CBR600F. The fork > > seals started > > leaking, so I had them replaced. Upon replacement, I was told by the > > mechanic that the [insert various complicated official names of fork > > internals] were wearing out, and it wasn't guaranteed that the fork seals > > would last very long. > > > > I wasn't sure what this meant, i.e., will normal use (no wheelieing, no > > bottoming out, just putting around like a puss) still lead to > > eventual fork > > seal leakage? Or, did the mechanic mean that my bike can't take > > regular-use > > bottoming out anymore like it could 15 years ago (when he said > > that the fork > > seals wouldn't last very long)? I never took apart my forks before. > > > > The springs apparently have lost a lot of their, er, spring, and I end up > > bottoming out the forks on hard cornering or if I don't take utmost care > > when entering driveways or coming to the bottom of a hill. I haven't > > checked static sag, but I'm betting it's way low. Bottoming out > > is bad and > > will blow the seals, or that's what I understand. There is no preload > > adjustment, so I can't do anything (besides putting in spacers, > > which seems > > ludicrous since the springs are toast) to increase the preload. Also, I > > already went up from 10w to 15w fork oil, but this is not compensation > > enough for the soggy springs (I'm around 230 lbs). > > > > So here is the meat of my question: will replacing the fork > > springs with new > > springs from say, progressive or [insert suggestion of a good brand > > replacement fork spring] along with moving up to 20w fork oil protect my > > seals from blowing again? Or, will the hefty springs and heavier > > fork oil > > overburden the fork seals (in view of the already worn out fork internal > > parts) and still blow them out regardless? > > > > I checked http://www.mawonline.com and saw they have replacement > > Progressive > > springs, but I don't know if I can use those or if I will need a > > "heavy-duty" spring in view of my weight (how would I buy a "heavy-duty" > > spring if they don't sell one? How do I specify the guage/size > > etc?). Can > > anyone suggest whether I should invest in upgraded springs/oil > > potentially > > resulting in freedom to ride "spiritedly", or just forget it and > > ride like a > > puss all the time? This is my scondary bike, so I don't really care too > > much. It just sucks having the potential of leaky forks. But I > > don't want > > to upgrade if I'll just blow the seals anyway regardless of > > whether I bottom > > out (if other factors cause blown seals besides bottoming out). > > > > Thanks for your time, > > Aaron > > 97 CBR900RR > > 87 CBR600F > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > _ _ _ _ > .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > > Content-return: allowed > Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 18:54:01 -0400 > From: "Ledford, Calvin" > Subject: FOR SALE: Original 84 VF500F... > To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , > "'vfr-digest@XXXXXX'" > > FOR SALE: Original 84 VF500F > > Running with all original parts, and paint scheme. > > Titled in VA. > > Has a little over 22,000 miles. > > Good condition. > > Both manuals (Honda and Clymers) > > Great project bike! Already in good condition - I bought it with the > intention of building it into a trackday bike, but I am to busy. > > $1000 obo > > Also for sale for $450 (willing to accept offers) BRAND NEW IN BOX Full > Hindle VF500F 4 into 1 exhaust system. These are no long longer available > to my knowledge. I purchased one of the last 4 known of, and this is what I > paid. > > Please email me directly at cledford@XXXXXX if interested - I'm a digest > mode guy and don't always review the updates. > > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 20:01:42 2001 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 17:01:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Hahaha Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story! ----VEVODEB0PUJ8DQZ4TUVG9UJW5YFSH Today, Snowhite was turning 18. The 7 Dwarfs always where very educated and polite with Snowhite. When they go out work at mornign, they promissed a *huge* surprise. Snowhite was anxious. 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ----VEXUNSDQ7G9QZKX-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 4 23:36:46 2001 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 20:36:45 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: dc-cycles Garage space To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I got on the official realator's database today and I dare say, no dice. $12/ft was about as low as it got and nothing under 2000 sqft unless it was office space. I think this project is not going to work out to well. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 02:24:50 2001 From: "Danny Thompson" To: Subject: Speaking of Fazer... Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 02:23:45 -0400 Just for anyone's info., Blalock cycles has 1 black Fazer in stock as well as a couple of 929's (I think 1 is an Erion edition), F4i's, an R1, a VTX (along with others)in case anyone is interested. This is a good time to buy with the new models coming out. Roy, Why did you decide to switch from the Gixxer to the Fazer if you don't mind my nosiness? Danny '98 VTR '01 Shadow Tourer '99 SV (race bike) battered for now... Novice #903 www.onewayracing.org Sponsored by: Shen Valley Trailers: www.shenvalleywarrenton.com, toll free @ 888-743-6825 Blalock Cycle: www.blalockcycle.com, 540-347-4591 ----- Original Message ----- From: Roy D. Turner, Esq. To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:28 PM Subject: Items for sale > I have a chrome plated LP USA Race Swingarm stand for sale. It is like new. > Will work on swing arms that have buttons installed. I paid $100.00 for it. > I will let it go for $50.00. > > By the way, I have some GSXR 750 parts (end can, right and left foot peg > assemblies) and a 96-99 GSXR Cylmer repair manual for sale on Ebay. I am > trading in my 98 GSXR for a 2001 Yahama Fazer. > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/01 From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 06:34:10 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 03:34:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: dc-cycles Garage space To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- matthew patton wrote: > I got on the official realator's database today and I > dare say, no dice. $12/ft was about as low as it got > and nothing under 2000 sqft unless it was office > space. > > I think this project is not going to work out to well. nothing like having a pessimist around. what i have learned is that nobody (around here anyway) advertises small space like we're looking for....it doesn't make economic sense. however, it certainly exists and i WILL find suitable space for us at a suitable price. ===== tg For quality legal services at reasonable rates, check out http://www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 07:17:22 2001 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 07:11:06 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Tom Gimer CC: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles Garage space Tom Gimer wrote: > --- matthew patton wrote: > > I got on the official realator's database today and I > > dare say, no dice. $12/ft was about as low as it got > > and nothing under 2000 sqft unless it was office > > space. > > > > I think this project is not going to work out to well. > > nothing like having a pessimist around. > > what i have learned is that nobody (around here anyway) > advertises small space like we're looking for....it doesn't > make economic sense. however, it certainly exists and i > WILL find suitable space for us at a suitable price. And don't forget to obtain all the neccessary permits for storing vehicles containing fuel and working on aforementioned vehicles. Bill From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 07:44:09 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 04:44:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? To: dccyles My stupid question for the week. I need to get both my bikes inspected in Virginia. Where do I take them to get inspected? Do I go to the same gas stations I use for my car? Keith Lil Red SV 01 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 08:02:56 2001 From: "Jon Strang" To: "dccyles" Subject: RE: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:01:55 -0400 X-SLUIDL: F9FAAA3E-A1F411D5-8E1D0060-08C770E5 Also, do you need both safety and emissions? > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Lamond [mailto:keithlva@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 7:44 AM > To: dccyles > Subject: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? > > > My stupid question for the week. > > I need to get both my bikes inspected in Virginia. > Where do I take them to get inspected? Do I go to the > same gas stations I use for my car? > > Keith > Lil Red SV 01 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 08:11:54 2001 From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "Danny Thompson" , Subject: Re: Speaking of Fazer... Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:11:12 -0400 Disposition-Notification-To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." I have finally reached the age (45) where a relaxed riding position and torque (as opposed to raw horsepower) are my priorities. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Thompson" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 2:23 AM Subject: Speaking of Fazer... > Just for anyone's info., Blalock cycles has 1 black Fazer in stock as well > as a couple of 929's (I think 1 is an Erion edition), F4i's, an R1, a VTX > (along with others)in case anyone is interested. This is a good time to buy > with the new models coming out. > Roy, Why did you decide to switch from the Gixxer to the Fazer if you don't > mind my nosiness? > Danny > '98 VTR > '01 Shadow Tourer > '99 SV (race bike) battered for now... > Novice #903 > www.onewayracing.org > > Sponsored by: > Shen Valley Trailers: www.shenvalleywarrenton.com, toll free @ 888-743-6825 > Blalock Cycle: www.blalockcycle.com, 540-347-4591 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roy D. Turner, Esq. > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:28 PM > Subject: Items for sale > > > > I have a chrome plated LP USA Race Swingarm stand for sale. It is like > new. > > Will work on swing arms that have buttons installed. I paid $100.00 for > it. > > I will let it go for $50.00. > > > > By the way, I have some GSXR 750 parts (end can, right and left foot peg > > assemblies) and a 96-99 GSXR Cylmer repair manual for sale on Ebay. I am > > trading in my 98 GSXR for a 2001 Yahama Fazer. > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.268 / Virus Database: 140 - Release Date: 8/7/01 > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 08:15:40 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 05:15:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: dc-cycles Garage space To: "William J. Huson" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > > > Tom Gimer wrote: > > > --- matthew patton wrote: > > > I got on the official realator's database today and I > > > dare say, no dice. $12/ft was about as low as it got > > > and nothing under 2000 sqft unless it was office > > > space. > > > > > > I think this project is not going to work out to > well. > > > > nothing like having a pessimist around. > > > > what i have learned is that nobody (around here anyway) > > advertises small space like we're looking for....it > doesn't > > make economic sense. however, it certainly exists and > i > > WILL find suitable space for us at a suitable price. > > And don't forget to obtain all the neccessary permits for > storing vehicles > containing fuel and working on aforementioned vehicles. actually, the ideal spot would be in somebody's large residential garage. no permits required. ===== tg For quality legal services at reasonable rates, check out http://www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 08:25:52 2001 From: Phil Simerly To: "'keithl1349@XXXXXX'" , dccyles Subject: RE: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:18:49 -0400 Take it to any VA inspection station. No Emission required. (If it were you would get a notice with your tag renewal) HillJack YahooIM - CouchRyder 2001 FLHTC (The Couch) > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Lamond [mailto:keithlva@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 7:44 AM > To: dccyles > Subject: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? > > > My stupid question for the week. > > I need to get both my bikes inspected in Virginia. > Where do I take them to get inspected? Do I go to the > same gas stations I use for my car? > > Keith > Lil Red SV 01 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with > Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 08:41:25 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" , "Dccycles2" Subject: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:40:18 -0400 So who is going to CSD Monday? Gary Foreman (TL Owners Club) mailto:gary@XXXXXX http://www.tl1000.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 08:43:13 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:41:32 -0400 From: "Scott Luttrell" To: "DC Cycle mailing list" Subject: 1999 f4 for sale $5000 obo yellow less then 5800 miles email me if interested to scott@XXXXXX Scott Luttrell Fast & Wily Racing www.fastandwily.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 08:47:23 2001 From: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 08:42:49 -0400 Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C13608.455A0410 Gary, I am unsure what exactly this is, can you provide some information or even easier would be a link to a web site? Thanks, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:40 AM To: DC-Cycles Mailing List; Dccycles2 Subject: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? So who is going to CSD Monday? 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To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX You could have a happy medium between the two bikes if you make the modifications that motorcycle online did. Check out their modified FZ1000 at www.motorcycle.com. Chris --- "Roy D. Turner, Esq." wrote: > I have finally reached the age (45) where a relaxed > riding position and > torque (as opposed to raw horsepower) are my > priorities. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 09:01:36 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:00:54 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "dccyles" , "Jon Strang" Subject: RE: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? No, motorcycles don't need emissions inspection in VA. You can get it inspected at most motorcycle dealers or any inspection station that does motorcycles as well as cars (in my experience, they all do bikes, but they don't all have the correct bike stickers). I'd recommend NOT taking it to someone who has a vested interest in finding something wrong with it so they can fix it. Personally, I prefer the ones who give it a quick once-over ... I hate people messing with my bike. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Jon Strang" Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:01:55 -0400 >Also, do you need both safety and emissions? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Keith Lamond [mailto:keithlva@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 7:44 AM >> To: dccyles >> Subject: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? >> >> >> My stupid question for the week. >> >> I need to get both my bikes inspected in Virginia. >> Where do I take them to get inspected? Do I go to the >> same gas stations I use for my car? >> >> Keith >> Lil Red SV 01 >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! >> Messenger >> http://im.yahoo.com >> > From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 09:05:21 2001 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:05:11 EDT Subject: And you thought it was bad here? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cross posted from another list >Yes, I still ride, even though the "safe" roads have become rather clogged >with heavy truck traffic, since these slow moving behemoths are literally >sitting ducks on the outlying secondary roads. >It's hard to say anything about anything here without digressing into the >"larger picture". I can only tell you that the mortar rounds lobbed into my >neighborhood did no damage to my Kawasaki. Thats right he said MORTAR rounds! This guy is not kidding, where he rides people get shot. Sometimes the traffic around here just does not seem so bad. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 09:24:17 2001 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Tom Gimer" , "matthew patton" , Subject: Re: dc-cycles Garage space Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:24:36 -0400 Tom's right. It doesn't pay to put small spaces in the multiple listing service. More of a word of mouth, friend of a friend of a friend situation. There's a residential garage available near Lincoln Park in DC for $200 a month. No idea how big it is, condition, security, what utilities are provided, etc. If I have time, I'll give the owner a call. It's more than I want to spend for myself, but if three or four people could split it. Trying to do maintenance (like engine testing at midnight) could be a sticky wicket in a residential area like Capitol Hill though. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Gimer > --- matthew patton wrote: > > I got on the official realator's database today and I > > dare say, no dice. $12/ft was about as low as it got > > and nothing under 2000 sqft unless it was office > > space. > > > > I think this project is not going to work out to well. > > nothing like having a pessimist around. > > what i have learned is that nobody (around here anyway) > advertises small space like we're looking for....it doesn't > make economic sense. however, it certainly exists and i > WILL find suitable space for us at a suitable price. > ===== > tg From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 09:25:48 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:24:16 -0400 From: To: keithl1349@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? > My stupid question for the week. > > I need to get both my bikes inspected in Virginia. > Where do I take them to get inspected? Do I go to the > same gas stations I use for my car? questionable (at best) answer of the week - Yes, the same place. I did, and didn't have a problem... HTH Dave Yates -- Guess The View and Win A Vacation http://by.advertising.com/1/c/61936/27709/90139/90139 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 09:38:33 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:37:42 -0400 It's an open track day at Summit Point where you can run your bike on the track. You have to pay a fee, attend a class. Fun day for sure. -----Original Message----- From: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX [mailto:Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:43 AM To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? Gary, I am unsure what exactly this is, can you provide some information or even easier would be a link to a web site? Thanks, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:40 AM To: DC-Cycles Mailing List; Dccycles2 Subject: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? So who is going to CSD Monday? Gary Foreman (TL Owners Club) mailto:gary@XXXXXX http://www.tl1000.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 09:39:36 2001 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:39:19 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Snow White Virus again To: OK, someone on the list has it again. I got three copies of it this morning. People, get yourself some antivirus software and quit passing this crap on. Geessshhhhh!!!!!! Scooter From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 09:46:43 2001 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 09:46:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: And you thought it was bad here? At 09:05 AM 9/5/01, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >Thats right he said MORTAR rounds! This guy is not kidding, where he rides >people get shot. >Sometimes the traffic around here just does not seem so bad. Sometimes people get shot in traffic around here. I'm not sure which is better - being shot in a traffic dispute or over political beliefs. I'd have to go with political. BTW - where is that guy living? Jerusalem? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org Everything under the sun is in tune, and the sun is eclipsed by the moon. From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 09:48:23 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 06:48:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Rider down on Fairfax county parkway To: dccyles On my way in to work this morning, I saw a downed bike in the median strip of Fairfax county parkway near the intersection at Franklin Farm. A SUV was pulled of to the side of the road and a cop car was present. As I passed by, I saw a green cruiser laying on the grass. A few minutes before reaching that spot, and ambulance passed going the other direction, probably carring the bike rider. Does anyone have anymore information about the accident? Was the person a fellow lister? At the least, it looks like a local biker needs to be in our thoughts. Keith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 09:50:37 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:50:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Paper To: dccyles Subject: RE: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Chris Norloff wrote: > I'd recommend NOT taking it to someone who has a vested interest in finding something wrong with it so they can fix it. Personally, I prefer the ones who give it a quick once-over ... I hate people messing with my bike. Agreed. Any suggestions, specifically, of places you like to go? I'd love to find a place that _only_ does inspections and doesn't have a garage associated with it. I need to get my bike inspected in September as well :) -dave -- Dave Paper AOL Network Operations cerberus@XXXXXX MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced --Jay It's no coincidence that people who blindly rely on computers and drugs are both called "users". --Unknown From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 10:00:24 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 07:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Floats To: DC Cycles , SOC USA I'm still having trouble with my cold and hot idle. My GS500 stalls when the revs come down until I've ridden 20-30 miles. I went to Cycle Accessory Discounters to order new jets per several peoples recommendations. The mechanic there suggested it may be a float adjustment, so I didn't buy the jets yet. Was he yanking my noodle in order to get the bike in, or could an idle problem be the float? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 10:07:47 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 07:07:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: RE: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? To: dccyles Well, tell us where you are. There must be hundreds of inspection stations in the area. I personally take mine to an Exxon near the corner of George Mason Dr. and Wilson Blvd. in Arlington. Never had a problem, usually takes five minutes. Chris --- Dave Paper wrote: > Agreed. Any suggestions, specifically, of places you > like to go? I'd love > to find a place that _only_ does inspections and > doesn't have a garage > associated with it. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 10:14:11 2001 From: Phil Simerly To: "'ScooterFZR@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Snow White Virus again Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:07:03 -0400 I also got 3 copies of it. > -----Original Message----- > From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX [mailto:ScooterFZR@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:39 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Snow White Virus again > > > OK, someone on the list has it again. I got three copies of > it this morning. People, get yourself some antivirus > software and quit passing this crap on. Geessshhhhh!!!!!! > > Scooter > From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 11:22:42 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:22:32 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Rmax http://206.40.48.186/uploads/VMAXR1.JPG -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 11:29:37 2001 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 11:29:21 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rmax To: Cc: What the HELL was that? Pretty cool looking though. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Wed, 5 Sep 2001 11:26:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Sean Jordan writes: > http://206.40.48.186/uploads/VMAXR1.JPG > > -- > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 12:08:19 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: , "DC-Cycles Mailing List" , "Dccycles2" Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:07:20 -0400 Cycle Sport Day cost for 9/10/2001 $140 Safety Wire Required. Water in Radiator preferred. Full details can be had by contacting Cycle Sport at: Herndon (703) 471-6990 Springfield (703) 451-9330 Gary -----Original Message----- From: Rob Curtis [mailto:rmcurtis@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:29 AM To: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? I might be interested, depending on the cost and whether you need safety wire. Where do you sign up? Is there a URL or phone number? Thanks- Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:38 AM > To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? > > > It's an open track day at Summit Point where you can run your bike on the > track. You have to pay a fee, attend a class. Fun day for sure. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX [mailto:Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:43 AM > To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? > > > Gary, > I am unsure what exactly this is, can you provide some information or even > easier would be a link to a web site? > Thanks, > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:40 AM > To: DC-Cycles Mailing List; Dccycles2 > Subject: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? > > > So who is going to CSD Monday? > > > Gary Foreman (TL Owners Club) > mailto:gary@XXXXXX > http://www.tl1000.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 13:01:22 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:01:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Paper To: dccyles Subject: RE: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > Well, tell us where you are. There must be hundreds of > inspection stations in the area. I personally take > mine to an Exxon near the corner of George Mason Dr. > and Wilson Blvd. in Arlington. Never had a problem, > usually takes five minutes. Northern Va. I'm willing to take a little bit of a ride to find a place that won't nit pick like mad. Thanks! -dave > --- Dave Paper wrote: > > Agreed. Any suggestions, specifically, of places you > > like to go? I'd love > > to find a place that _only_ does inspections and > > doesn't have a garage > > associated with it. > > > ===== > Chris Weaver > VTR1000 YSR50 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > -- Dave Paper AOL Network Operations cerberus@XXXXXX MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced --Jay It's no coincidence that people who blindly rely on computers and drugs are both called "users". --Unknown From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 13:11:25 2001 From: Brian Roach To: Matthew Rosenstock , DC Cycles Subject: Re: Floats Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:10:56 -0400 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 10:00, Matthew Rosenstock wrote: > Was he yanking my noodle in order to get the bike in, > or could an idle problem be the float? Improper float adjustment can cause the bike to stall at idle, yes. - Roach From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 14:31:13 2001 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:36:13 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda To: dccyles Subject: Re: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? I'd take it to Cossroad Cycle, they're quick and easy. Keith Lamond wrote: > > My stupid question for the week. > > I need to get both my bikes inspected in Virginia. > Where do I take them to get inspected? Do I go to the > same gas stations I use for my car? > > Keith > Lil Red SV 01 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda3@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 15:59:09 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Almost moto -- Speed Vision - Comcast Arlington FWIW, Comcast has a submission form on their web page where you can make suggestions about channels for them to carry. I put in a request this afternoon and got back a reply saying it had been forwarded to their marketing department. Anyone else in the area who appreciates things that go fast, go to http://www.comcast.com, put in your zip code, select your town (I'm in Arlington) and then go to the contacts page. You can find a link there which will have a form you can fill out and submit to them to request they add Speedvision (and whatever else your interested in, such as the food network) to your lineup! -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 16:00:34 2001 Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dccyles Subject: Re: Stupid question, where do I go to get a bike inspected? On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Keith Lamond wrote: > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 04:44:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: Keith Lamond > > My stupid question for the week. > > I need to get both my bikes inspected in Virginia. > Where do I take them to get inspected? Do I go to the > same gas stations I use for my car? I've had good service at Crossroads cycles. I believe they do inspections. Very casual and easy to deal with. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 16:26:19 2001 From: "Shigeru Honda" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Re: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 16:28:39 -0400 Hi, thanks for the info. I just signed up today. Since this will be my very first time to ride on the track I'll be taking a seminar at Cycle Sports tomorrow... I guess I'll be riding my HawkGT to the Summit Point, anyone else riding there? Shigeru Honda Honda HawkGT Kawasaki GPz1100 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Foreman" To: ; "DC-Cycles Mailing List" ; "Dccycles2" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 12:07 PM Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? > Cycle Sport Day cost for 9/10/2001 $140 > Safety Wire Required. > Water in Radiator preferred. > Full details can be had by contacting Cycle Sport at: > Herndon (703) 471-6990 > Springfield (703) 451-9330 > > > > Gary > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Curtis [mailto:rmcurtis@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 11:29 AM > To: Gary Foreman > Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? > > > I might be interested, depending on the cost and whether you need safety > wire. Where do you sign up? Is there a URL or phone number? > Thanks- > Rob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 9:38 AM > > To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? > > > > > > It's an open track day at Summit Point where you can run your bike on the > > track. You have to pay a fee, attend a class. Fun day for sure. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX [mailto:Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:43 AM > > To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? > > > > > > Gary, > > I am unsure what exactly this is, can you provide some information or even > > easier would be a link to a web site? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 8:40 AM > > To: DC-Cycles Mailing List; Dccycles2 > > Subject: Cycle Sport Day - Who's going? > > > > > > So who is going to CSD Monday? > > > > > > Gary Foreman (TL Owners Club) > > mailto:gary@XXXXXX > > http://www.tl1000.com > > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 17:50:58 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: Subject: RE: Snow White Virus again Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:50:31 -0400 Its not me ! Anyway, remember that Outlook and such can send the file (by sender name, etc.) straight to a "kill file" that you create. I'm on Yahoo and use Outlook to read my mail. I found that Yahoo has a "block address" feature. Just block the "Hahaha" and I suppose it should be fine. Niv _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 22:05:51 2001 From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: F/S - Race tickets Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 22:06:58 -0400 Hey, Yes, it's a long story, but I'm one of the MTV generation with no attention span what so ever to speak of, so here's the "Reader's Digest"/"Washington Post Headlines" or "whatever you want to call this type of story" version: Friend calls me two months ago, suggests we go to VIR this year for AMA. I agree, order tix via web/mail on MY goddamned CC. Tix still have yet to arrive. 2nd friend calls and says "Don't order tix, I can get you in with 100% access (pits, press, photo, etc) for free. Meanwhile1st friend calls back and cancels anyway. Now I have (two) 3-day passes to VIR for the AMA weekend (Sept. 28, 29 and 30) coming via USPS and no use for them. They are advanced tix, so only $45 each. Or $90 for the pair if you're scoring at home. Which I am not. Can you sense my tension? I would desperately like to unload these (I, as a youngster, cannot afford to eat $90 worth of credit blunder). So please e-mail me if you would like to buy them. First e-mail (HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX), call (Work cell 301-674-5366) or carrier pidgeon to arrive gets them. I will more than likely hand deliver them the weekend of the 15th (going to Syracuse for the dirt tracks this weekend), or maybe earlier if you actually live/work anywhere near MD. Please do not post to this list. I get the digest version to avoid the morons who keep infecting us with the Snow White virus. TIA. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 22:09:13 2001 From: "Jay Block" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/05/01 Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 21:57:39 -0400 Okay, someone allowed the Snow White thing to get into the email. Fortunately my Hotmail blocks it. You all gotta watch this stuff. Jay Block _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 5 23:56:31 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Brian Roach - You out there? Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 23:55:48 -0400 I haven't heard from Brian and he hasn't answered any of my emails. Anyone heard from Brian lately? Dude, you racing this weekend? Riding Monday? Gary Foreman, TL Owners Club mailto:gary@XXXXXX TL Owners Club: http://www.tl1000.com TL Owners Board: http://server5.ezboard.com/btlownersboard TL Message Board: http://www.voy.com/14718/ Yahoo TL Pit: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tl1000pit From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 02:56:47 2001 From: "L4rite" To: , Subject: going to VIR.......?! Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 02:52:34 -0400 Hello folks.....i'm heading down to VIR for the AMA Superbike races at the end of the month and of course as many of you know the hotel rooms are scarce....been looking for a while, but wasn't sure if I could get the weekend off of work........ So far I can get a room ($65/night) in Oxford, NC...45 miles south on US158 or a room ($58/night) in La Crosse, VA....58 miles east on US58, for a 2 queen bed....i've already put reservation hold on both....so that is taken care of..just gotta pick the best..... Can anybody recommend which would be better so far as getting to the track....I don't really mind driving.....just the traffic aspects involved around the track...i'm in no rush to leave Sunday, but I don't want to have to leave at 5 am to see the first morning races either.... By the way.....the other bed is now going to be empty......my girlfriend has a wedding to go to, so if anyone wants to come along...it will be available....i'm driving my truck down...bike will probably still be in the shop.....so I can carry a bike or just about anything else..... thanx Les 96Kat750, 89KLR650... From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 07:41:20 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 04:41:09 -0700 (PDT) From: David Subject: Winter Storage To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Saw the message someone sent about having winter storage space in MD. I live in Arlington (near Pentagon City Mall) and have the same scenario - spot in my building's garage, requires electronic key access, we have 24 hour security at our building at the front desk and patroling the lot. I pay $75/month and am happy to do $20 or $25 per month to help defray the cost. Can easily fit two other bikes, maybe a third (if I had 3 others, would only ask $15 each). Contact me directly if interested. David Lusk 98 Honda Aero 1100 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 08:46:11 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 05:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: F/S - Race tickets To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX If you can't find a buyer, just sell them at the gate. If you sell them for $45 when people would otherwise have to pay $55, I'm sure you'd unload them in no time. The buzz at VIR this past weekend was that the turnout is going to be HUGE. They're going to have some real traffic problems, ahtellyawut. Chris --- "Howard J. Koontz" wrote: > I would desperately like to unload these (I, as a [snip] ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 09:52:18 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:51:32 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: There is justice Rockford officer charged with vehicular homicide 2001-08-30 by Anna C. Irwin of The Daily Times Staff A Rockford police officer has been charged with vehicular homicide in the death of a Knoxville man killed in a motorcycle crash on March 10. The charge against Sgt. James Ray ``JR'' Johnson, 33, Highway 72, Maryville, came in an indictment returned Wednesday by a Blount County Grand Jury meeting in special session. Johnson is accused of using his police cruiser to force Phillip Mickey Laton's motorcycle into a guard rail on the Stock Creek Bridge at the Blount/Knox County line on Old Knoxville Highway. Laton, 27, apparently died as a result of the impact with the guard rail. Johnson was notified of the indictment and warrant for his arrest. He came to the Blount County Jail at 1:55 p.m. Wednesday escorted by fellow Rockford Officer Bill Allen, entering through the sally port where those in custody are turned over to corrections officers. Johnson was photographed during the booking procedure in his street clothes, not wearing the top portion of the black and white striped jail uniform others being booked are told to put on before the photo is taken. He was fingerprinted and provided booking information to corrections officers before he was released on a $25,000 surety bond pending a 9 a.m. Sept. 10 appearance in Blount County Circuit Court. A private surety bond is a document signed by another party, usually a responsible relative or friend, guaranteeing the person released on the bond will appear in court as scheduled and comply with any other terms of release. It does not require financial consideration. Johnson has been on administrative leave with pay since two days after the fatal collision when Trooper Ron McDonald of the Tennessee Highway Patrol amended his original report. The original report McDonald said the original report, based in part on a statement from Johnson, indicated Laton lost control of his 1997 Honda CR900 as he tried to pass Johnson's cruiser, hit the guard rail, then slid into Johnson's patrol car. The trooper said witnesses came forward two days after the accident and said it looked like Johnson's cruiser swerved into the motorcycle and sent it careening into the guard rail. McDonald said the videotape from Johnson's car appeared to confirm what the witnesses said happened. The Tennessee Highway Patrol investigation continued, and information gathered was presented to the grand jury to decide if a criminal charge was merited. The videotape from Johnson's car was reviewed, as was other information including the fact that Laton's blood analysis indicated an alcohol content below the 0.10 percent, then the legal definition of intoxication. Laton, a corrections officer at the Knoxville Juvenile Detention Center, had attended a social gathering in Blount County and was on his way back to Knoxville. A Blount County deputy reported sighting a motorcycle speeding on Old Knoxville Highway minutes before the crash and Johnson was attempting to assist the deputy by stopping the motorcycle. Former Blount deputy Rockford Police Chief Robert Simerly said Johnson left a job in the security department at the University of Tennessee to join his department on June 1, 2000. Prior to that, Johnson worked as a Blount County Sheriff's deputy two different times -- from August 1992 until May 1995 and from June 1996 until May 1998. He resigned both times. His record there included specialized training through several law enforcement courses, two letters of commendation and two disciplinary suspensions. In addition to the criminal charge against Johnson, he is also named as one of the defendants in a $3 million lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court by Laton's ex-wife on behalf of his three children ages 7, 8 and 9. Also named in the suit are the Rockford police chief, the city of Rockford, Blount County Sheriff James L. Berrong and Blount County. *** Article copyright (c) IBMWR and the author(s). All rights reserved. Unsubscribe directions at http://www.ibmwr.org/faq-files/mail.html#SUB *** *** Article copyright (c) IBMWR and the author(s). All rights reserved. Unsubscribe directions at http://www.ibmwr.org/faq-files/mail.html#SUB *** From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 10:10:00 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 07:09:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: There is justice To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Chris Norloff wrote: > > > The original report > > McDonald said the original report, based in part on a > statement from > Johnson, > indicated Laton lost control of his 1997 Honda CR900 as > he tried to pass > Johnson's cruiser, hit the guard rail, then slid into > Johnson's patrol car. cr900? of course it's a misprint (as usual with the media and motorcycles), but that sure would make a hell of a stump puller. glad to see this prick is getting what he deserves.... ===== tg For quality legal services at reasonable rates, check out http://www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 10:24:18 2001 From: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 10:20:28 -0400 Subject: Alcohol + Moto To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C136DF.13DA8720 First off, I am fully aware of the dangers of drinking and riding... and for those of you who are not... DO NOT DRINK AND RIDE OR DRIVE Ok here's the set-up, I am aware that there are laws against carrying an open container of alcohol in a car/truck. But my dilemma lies in that I have an opened bottle of alcohol (Cap'n Morgan's) in my fridge, and wish to take it, on the bike, to a friend's place for a social evening. I will likely have it in a backpack either wearing it, or cargo netted down, will there be any complications that anyone would know of if for some reason I were to be pulled over for speeding (as if I speed)??? 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Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 10:39:23 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:38:25 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Alcohol + Moto >...my dilemma lies in that I have an opened bottle of alcohol (Cap'n >Morgan's) in my fridge, and wish to take it, on the bike, to a friend's >place for a social evening. I will likely have it in a backpack either >wearing it, or cargo netted down, will there be any complications that >anyone would know of if for some reason I were to be pulled over for >speeding (as if I speed)??? I would think not, as long as you don't transport the stuff across state lines and you're 18 years of age. (At least, in Va. 18 to transport/posses & 21 to purchase/consume.) You're best bet is to stow it in a backpack. As long as the bottle is securely closed and stored where you can't get to it easily, I imagine you'd be safe. -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 10:45:13 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 07:45:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Alcohol + Moto To: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX --- Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX wrote: > First off, I am fully aware of the dangers of > drinking and riding... and for > those of you who are not... > > DO NOT DRINK AND RIDE OR DRIVE > > I'm glad you said this cause you know someone would have had to chime in with something... ;-) > Ok here's the set-up, I am aware that there are laws > against carrying an > open container of alcohol in a car/truck. That depends on what state you are in! In Virginia passengers can drink! Gotta love them good old boys in Richmond! How civilized! > But my dilemma lies in that I have an opened bottle > of alcohol (Cap'n > Morgan's) in my fridge, and wish to take it, on the > bike, to a friend's > place for a social evening. I will likely have it > in a backpack either > wearing it, or cargo netted down, will there be any > complications that > anyone would know of if for some reason I were to be > pulled over for > speeding (as if I speed)??? > I would think as long as you are sober there shouldn't be an issue. Even states with open container laws usually allow you to have a re-sealer bottle of booze in the trunk. Since you don't have a trunk the bad should suffice. Glenn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 10:59:06 2001 Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 10:59:21 -0400 To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Alcohol + Moto At 10:45 AM 9/6/01, Glenn Dysart wrote: > > Ok here's the set-up, I am aware that there are laws > > against carrying an > > open container of alcohol in a car/truck. > >That depends on what state you are in! In Virginia >passengers can drink! Gotta love them good old boys >in Richmond! How civilized! ,,,and in VA, it has been legal for the past two+ years to carry an unfinished bottle of wine from a restaurant to your home, including transport in a vehicle. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 11:04:42 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 08:04:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Alcohol + Moto To: Larry Larson , DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Not finish a bottle of wine at dinner!? BLASPHEMY! ;-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Larry Larson wrote: > ,,,and in VA, it has been legal for the past two+ > years to > carry an unfinished bottle of wine from a restaurant > to your > home, including transport in a vehicle. > > -- Larry > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 11:27:01 2001 From: Cedric Bernescut To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Alcohol + Moto Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 11:26:57 -0400 Not finish a bottle of wine at dinner!? BLASPHEMY! ;-) - Jeannette True! =:O to carry an unfinished bottle of wine from a restaurant to your home, including transport in a vehicle. -- Larry Probably wouldn't recommend the Camelback for this, though :) Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 Annandale, VA From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 11:29:30 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 08:29:28 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: For Sale: rather urgent To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX My neighbor Armondo needs to sell his green TL1000S ('97) and his black '92 Mazda Miata as soon as possible. Both are in beautiful condition. He highschool daughter got run over by a car while riding her motorscooter yesturday and broke both legs. He said something about her being on the highway which I'm guessing means I-395 but I hope not. I don't know his medical insurance particulars but apparently he needs to sell the vehicles to raise money to pay said expenses. She's at Washington Hospital on Irving St. NW. You can reach him on his cell: 630-248-7167 Mine is 703-980-6716 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 11:39:12 2001 Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 11:39:20 -0400 To: Jeannette , DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Alcohol + Moto No one said it had to be the *first* bottle, did they? 8;) -- Larry At 11:04 AM 9/6/01, Jeannette wrote: >Not finish a bottle of wine at dinner!? >BLASPHEMY! ;-) > >- Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > >--- Larry Larson wrote: > > ,,,and in VA, it has been legal for the past two+ > > years to > > carry an unfinished bottle of wine from a restaurant > > to your > > home, including transport in a vehicle. > > > > -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 11:53:26 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 08:53:24 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: looking for 'small' cruisers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I have a friend who is looking for a first bike in a middle-displacement cruiser. Anyone here want to sell theirs? (yes we're looking at all of the usuall classifieds...) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 12:07:22 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:07:18 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Extremely good prices on Honda's To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX OPEN HOUSE SHENANDOAH HONDA ALL NEW HONDA STREET BIKES, DIRT BIKES & ATV WILL BE SOLD AT DEALER COST! SAT SEPT 8, 9AM-3PM 800-276-2036 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 12:22:21 2001 Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 12:22:10 EDT From: LakeSueE@XXXXXX Subject: NH and M To: I may be the only one parking at this curbside motorcycle parking area that is on this list (I think Cedric might park at NH & M) but a law firm at 1200 NH Ave got a bomb threat around 10:30 this morning and despite police and firetrucks barricading our bikes in...there was no damage and no bomb. This is an interesting place to park! sue From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 12:30:28 2001 From: Cedric Bernescut To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: RE: NH and M Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:30:29 -0400 Glad to hear that everyone was OK. I actually have access to free parking under my building on 29th St. near K my boss has a short car and he lets me park at the end of his spot). Security is better, but if the Potomac's level rises too high it floods the basement and my bike's in trouble (several cars here got flooded one winter). Still, it's a reminder of what's out there. Another list I'm on has a member who lives in the Middle East., his last post indicated that the mortar rounds that landed on his street missed his Kawasaki; I guess stupid SUV drivers aren't the worst thing out there. Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 Annandale, VA I may be the only one parking at this curbside motorcycle parking area that is on this list (I think Cedric might park at NH & M) but a law firm at 1200 NH Ave got a bomb threat around 10:30 this morning and despite police and firetrucks barricading our bikes in...there was no damage and no bomb. This is an interesting place to park! sue From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 12:47:52 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:47:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Ride For Kids, DC area To: DC-Cycles This came off the Trophy list. I am not going but it seems like a good cause. > The annual "Ride for Kids" is a major event in the > DC/Baltimore area > and will be held September 16, starting from the > Colombia Mall. > The "ride" is well-organized and promoted by Honda, > also taking place > in other cities and the schedule for the events (& > overall web-site) > may be found at: > http://www.ride4kids.org/media/schedule/event_schedule.html > > I'm going to try to be there and was wondering > whether anybody else > on the list would be? Even if you are in another > town, check the web- > site and see if there is a ride in your area. It's > a great cause & > should be a great ride with fun people! > > Bob > '95 BRG Sprint Exec > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 12:54:56 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 09:54:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric M. Winslow" Subject: For Sale-1999 Ninja 500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Excellent condition, 1,800 miles, red. For those that don't know this bike, it has a very smooth (compared to my KLR) 2 cyl. water-cooled engine, good power (especially for us lighter folk), great brakes, and is just an excellent all-round motorcycle with a sporty demeanor. My wife and I are selling it because she just has not been riding it much at all. It has had 2 parking lot incidents (one with the previous owner who had it for all of 147 miles), one which took a small chip out of the fairing, but no functional damage at all. $4,000 or best offer of course. Eric '94 KLR650 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 13:13:47 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:13:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Reston To: DCC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 13:15:00 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Oops... Reston Observer - Loudoun MSF Article To: DCC Anyone see it? A guy at work told me about it. He's going to try and dig it up. Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 13:20:14 2001 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 10:20:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: Ride For Kids, DC area To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'll be there with my Suzuki Owners Club of Maryland. I'm going to find a place for us to meet beforehand. I'll be glad to send the location to this list in case anyone wants to ride with us. If you raise $300 or more, you get a shot to win a 250 Honda Rebel. Matt --- Trey Herb wrote: > > The annual "Ride for Kids" is a major event in the > > DC/Baltimore area > > and will be held September 16, starting from the > > Colombia Mall. > > The "ride" is well-organized and promoted by > Honda, > > also taking place > > in other cities and the schedule for the events (& > > overall web-site) > > may be found at: __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 13:44:27 2001 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 13:37:18 -0400 Subject: Free Admission and Corner Worker Training @ Summit this Saturday X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6,8,10 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Read all about it at: http://www.marrc.org/html_docs/crew.res.html Tom Fitzpatrick CCS#80'6 (www.celticracing.com) Sponsors: *Fast Lane Cycles - fastlanecycles@XXXXXX (703)818-8890 (www.fastlanecycles.com)* *Barnacle Bill's Racing Leathers - barnacle@XXXXXX (www.racingleather.com)* *Nuts and Bolts Racing Racer Web Sites - rchapin@XXXXXX (www.nbracesites.com)* *Janet Bell TAX Preparation, Accounting and Consulting (belljan@XXXXXX)* From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 16:45:54 2001 From: "Danny Thompson" To: Subject: Mike T e-mail me please Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 16:44:47 -0400 Danny '98 VTR '01 Shadow Tourer '99 SV (race bike) battered for now... Novice #903 www.onewayracing.org Sponsored by: Shen Valley Trailers: www.shenvalleywarrenton.com, toll free @ 888-743-6825 Blalock Cycle: www.blalockcycle.com, 540-347-4591 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.276 / Virus Database: 145 - Release Date: 9/3/01 From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 19:19:15 2001 From: laura granato To: "Gary Foreman" , "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Re: Brian Roach - You out there? Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 19:19:30 -0400 On Wednesday 05 September 2001 23:55, Gary Foreman wrote: > I haven't heard from Brian and he hasn't answered any of my emails. Anyone > heard from Brian lately? > > Dude, you racing this weekend? Riding Monday? > > Both Brian and I are racing at summit this weekend, but we're not going to be there on Monday. It looks like a beautiful weekend, so hope to see a bunch of you out there. We'll have the speedwerks trailer, so stop by and say hi. Laura From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 21:54:36 2001 From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: Thanks a pant load... Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 21:55:43 -0400 Hey, Thank you to whomever personally sent me the Snow White Virus to my computer here at home. You are truly half a man, if that. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 23:19:54 2001 Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:19:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Smaller bike for sale? To: jconli1@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" We've got a 93 EX250 in what I consider very good shape. A bit over 7k miles, not used very often, handles real well, has an LP tank bra and a MMS lowering kit that raises or lowers the height up to about 2". The bike is my fiance's, and we're not sure if we're looking to sell it yet. It hasn't turned out to be a great bike for her, and we're thinking of looking into a standard rather than a sportsbike. If you're still looking at the end of the month, let me know, or if we decide to sell by the end of the month, I'll drop you another line. Thanks, Kevin DiBartolo Washington, DC '79 GS850G '80 GS750L '93 EX250 '99 CBR600F4 (traded for a ring) '93 XJ600S (gone) '81 CM400E (gone) kdibar72@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 6 23:36:34 2001 Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 23:36:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Airborn VFR / Cam Caught some air tonight on the way home. Going a little fast to make the light Southbound on Centreville Rd across 50 (think Fast Lanes Cycles) and actually got about a foot of air front and back. Must have hit the ridge just right. Wasn't expecting it and slammed home the boys, but otherwise no major difficulty. My chain was a bit slack last weekend so I tightened it up to spec - now I'm back to pulling mini wheelies coming out of hard corners. Unusual for me and the VFR. My second ram mount came today for piggyback camcorder mounting, and I made a little test video. Came out great. I'll probably run up 211 Sunday and see what footage I can get. Anyone is welcome to borrow it as long as they share the video. The mounts are bike transportable fairly easily. (see site below for pics). I do request that you use your own camcorder though - or place a small $500 deposit with me ;-o _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 N38.84810 W77.44614 From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 09:00:28 2001 From: "Todd Peer" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: There is Justice! Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 08:48:20 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" Subject: There is justice Rockford officer charged with vehicular homicide 2001-08-30 by Anna C. Irwin of The Daily Times Staff A Rockford police officer has been charged with vehicular homicide in the death of a Knoxville man killed in a motorcycle crash on March 10. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Excellent! Thanks for this post Chris! I was watching one of those "police Videos" shows the other evening and watched, horrified, as some down-home southern piggy forced a motorbike carrying a passenger off the road and crash. Passenger suffered a broken leg. Fucker! Todd (Springfield, VA) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 09:34:36 2001 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Todd Peer" Cc: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Re: There is Justice! Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:29:52 -0400 I remember seeing that too. You know, I'm amazed police departments agree to release some of this footage, since it doesn't present the officers in a very favorable light. I think you may be referring to Police Action Video (or some such) a British production that airs on The Learning Channel. It's mostly UK cop video, but sometimes they include footage from the states for an often none too flattering contrast to American LEO tactics. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Peer > > I was watching one of those "police Videos" shows the other evening and > watched, horrified, as some down-home southern piggy forced a motorbike > carrying a passenger off the road and crash. Passenger suffered a broken > leg. Fucker! > > Todd (Springfield, VA) From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 09:44:36 2001 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Subject: pocket bike video Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:46:00 -0400 Anyone on the list? Watch until the end to see the get-out-of-the-ditch technique. Carl in Bethesda (easily amused) Steve Subject: pocket bike video This is a funny clip for some entertainment It was shot by a lipstick camera on a normal road bike as the rider follows 2 guys on pocket bikes riding along deal gap in NC in the USA http://www.spatulahead.com/clayfbusa/Killboy/Pocketbikes-Gap-Nitro.mpg cheers Steve From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 09:51:53 2001 From: laura granato To: "garcia oliver" , jconli1@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Smaller bike for sale? Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 09:52:09 -0400 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (traded for a > ring) now that's a good man! ;-) LAG From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 10:12:27 2001 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 07:12:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: There is Justice! To: Paul Wilson , Todd Peer Cc: dc-cycles list They probably have to release it, as its in the public domain. We (tax payers) own the video equipment. --- Paul Wilson wrote: > I remember seeing that too. You know, I'm amazed > police departments agree > to release some of this footage, since it doesn't > present the officers in a > very favorable light. I think you may be referring > to Police Action Video > (or some such) a British production that airs on The > Learning Channel. It's > mostly UK cop video, but sometimes they include > footage from the states for > an often none too flattering contrast to American > LEO tactics. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750F > http://users.erols.com/pawilson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Todd Peer > > > > I was watching one of those "police Videos" shows > the other evening and > > watched, horrified, as some down-home southern > piggy forced a motorbike > > carrying a passenger off the road and crash. > Passenger suffered a broken > > leg. Fucker! > > > > Todd (Springfield, VA) > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 11:03:15 2001 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:03:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Smaller bike for sale? To: laura granato , garcia oliver , jconli1@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX i took the settlement check for my stolen 900rr and bought a ring for my wife. do i qualify?!? :) --- laura granato wrote: > (traded for a > > ring) > > now that's a good man! ;-) > > LAG ===== tg For quality legal services at reasonable rates, check out http://www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 12:42:57 2001 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 12:41:38 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Smaller bike for sale? At 11:03 AM 9/7/01, Tom Gimer wrote: >i took the settlement check for my stolen 900rr and bought >a ring for my wife. do i qualify?!? :) > > > (traded for a ring) > > > > now that's a good man! ;-) You *can* get counseling for that sort of behavior, or prescription drugs in extreme cases. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 13:07:21 2001 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 13:00:56 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Smaller bike for sale? On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Tom Gimer wrote: > i took the settlement check for my stolen 900rr and bought > a ring for my wife. do i qualify?!? :) > Well, it's got to be a better investment then an Italian motorcycle. ;) Hugh From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 13:25:40 2001 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 13:21:09 -0400 From: "mcfocusgroup" To: Subject: Motorcycle Research Hi, My name is Scott McKnight. I got this email address from Lisa Goddard, who suggested I post this information here. The quick verson of this message is that motorcyclists can make $50 by participating in our research study. Here's more information: We are the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation (PIRE). We have a history of motorcycle safety research going back to our founding 25 years ago. Currently we are conducting a project for the US Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to hold a series of Focus Groups with motorcyclists to discuss issues related to motorcycle riding and alcohol. We are hoping to involve male riders of all backgrounds, ages and ethnic groups. Participants in this study will receive $50, plus a meal, to meet with us in our offices in Calverton MD (just north of the intersection of the DC Beltway and Rt. 95) for approximately 90 minutes. Anyone who is interested in participating, or would like more information, is invited to contact us by phone at 301 755-2785. We are beginning to schedule people for focus groups that will take place in late September so we'd appreciate hearing from potential participants as soon as possible. Thank you, Scott McKnight Senior Program Manager Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation Motorcycle Focus Group Project 301 755-2785 From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 13:45:47 2001 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:45:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Smaller bike for sale? To: hcaldwell , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- hcaldwell wrote: > On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Tom Gimer wrote: > > > i took the settlement check for my stolen 900rr and > bought > > a ring for my wife. do i qualify?!? :) > > > Well, it's got to be a better investment then > an Italian motorcycle. ;) only time will tell on that one! ;) ===== tg For quality legal services at reasonable rates, check out http://www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 14:49:33 2001 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 14:45:17 -0400 From: "mcfocusgroup" To: Subject: More on the Research Post Hi, Scott McKnight again. Some folks have asked me about dates and times when we'll be doing this. Currently our plan is to have an afternoon and an evening group each for Monday September 24th and Tuesday September 25th. We don't have firm times but I imagine it would be something like 3pm-5pm and 7pm - 9pm on those days. Participants would only attend one of these four time slots. If it turns out we can't get enough people at these times we might add more weekday evenings or weekend groups. Also - I've tried subscribing to this list but apparently I'm not on it yet (I'm not receiving any posts) so if you have questions please email me back at mcfocusgroup@XXXXXX. Thanks, Scott McKnight Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation Motorcycle Focus Group Project 301 755-2785 From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 15:26:03 2001 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:26:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: mcfocusgroup cc: Subject: Re: More on the Research Post I would be interested in participating. Either, the Monday 7-9 time slot, possibly a Tues time slot. I need to check on my schedule. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, morris@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL(DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C)#446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, mcfocusgroup wrote: > > Hi, > > Scott McKnight again. > > Some folks have asked me about dates and times when we'll be doing this. Currently our plan is to have an afternoon and an evening group each for Monday September 24th and Tuesday September 25th. We don't have firm times but I imagine it would be something like 3pm-5pm and 7pm - 9pm on those days. Participants would only attend one of these four time slots. If it turns out we can't get enough people at these times we might add more weekday evenings or weekend groups. > > Also - I've tried subscribing to this list but apparently I'm not on it yet (I'm not receiving any posts) so if you have questions please email me back at mcfocusgroup@XXXXXX. > > Thanks, > Scott McKnight > > > Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation > Motorcycle Focus Group Project > 301 755-2785 > From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 16:04:48 2001 Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 16:03:08 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Smaller bike for sale? At 01:00 PM 9/7/01, hcaldwell wrote: >On Fri, 7 Sep 2001, Tom Gimer wrote: > > > i took the settlement check for my stolen 900rr and bought > > a ring for my wife. do i qualify?!? :) > > > Well, it's got to be a better investment then >an Italian motorcycle. ;) Not necessarily. My Aprilia is in the garage; my ex-wife is in Massachussetts. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 17:19:30 2001 Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: looking for Suz valve tools To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'm going to order my own set but does anyone have tools that would work on a GS500? My race bike's exhaust valves are rather loose (1.0 and 1.2 vs max 0.08). How concerned should I be about that considering I'll be running at Summit this weekend? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Sep 7 21:57:16 2001 From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: Winter Storage Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 21:40:01 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C137E5.A651C620 The usual wet blanket that pops up -- Apartment house storage for multiple non-resident bikes that has been = mentioned on the list should be approached with caution. While IANAL, I = do have a basement space contract in DC and there are all sorts of = considerations re liability (floods, fire, etc.), subletting, repairing = on premises, non-resident access, etc. etc.. =20 So, if your bike is worth more than pocket change, suggest = nitty-grittying the ownership chain requirements. =20 Bill S. / DC [Between mid-cruisers] Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C137E5.A651C620
The usual wet blanket that pops up --
 
Apartment house storage for multiple non-resident = bikes that=20 has been mentioned on the list should be approached with caution.  = While=20 IANAL, I do have a basement space contract in DC and there are all sorts = of=20 considerations re liability (floods, fire, etc.), subletting, repairing = on=20 premises, non-resident access, etc. etc.. 
 
So, if your bike is worth more than pocket change, = suggest=20 nitty-grittying the ownership chain requirements. 
 
Bill S. / DC
[Between mid-cruisers]
Join the = AMA. =20 Help protect my riding fun.
------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01C137E5.A651C620-- From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 8 10:47:47 2001 Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 10:47:02 -0400 From: Chuck Pena To: DC Cycles , DC Cycles2 Subject: Stuff FOR SALE The process of going through stuff in anticipation of moving from our condo to our house has uncovered a few items that I don't need and are, therefore, for sale... - GP armor for suit or jacket and pants combo. Shoulders, elbows, and knees. Foam with hard plastic covering. This is very similar to the Teknic GP armor being sold by New Enough http://www.newenough.com/armor.htm and they want $54 (plus shipping) for the whole set. Your's for only $30, cash on the barrelhead. - Olympia kevlar sport gloves. Blue/white/black. Hardly ever used. Selling for $50 in the Chapparal catalog. Your's for only $25, cash on the barrelhead. - Fog City anti-fog shield -- standard, i.e., not designed to work with Arai shields, but will fit all others. Amber (for high viz in low light/contrast conditions). New in the box. Selling for $14 in the Chapparal catalog. Your's for only $10, cash on the barrelhead. You have to be willing to come to my place in Arlington (Rosslyn) to look at/buy the above items. First come-first served basis. Cash only -- no checks or credit cards! Chuck DCCRSC #2 -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 8 13:11:46 2001 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Mark Kitchell Cc: Paul Wilson , Todd Peer , dc-cycles list Subject: Re: There is Justice! Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 13:12:20 -0700 |>They probably have to release it, as its in the public |>domain. We (tax payers) own the video equipment. As well as free press... From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 8 13:45:56 2001 Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 13:45:26 -0400 Subject: Heading up to 211 From: Randy or Julie Moran To: Anyone else wanna go? I'm leaving from the Chantilly area. Email within the next 20 mins and we'll hook. RPM From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 8 13:47:00 2001 Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 13:46:53 -0400 Subject: Wanna Ride? From: Randy or Julie Moran To: Anyone else wanna go? I'm leaving from the Chantilly area. Email within the next 20 mins and we'll hook. It's 1:45 now, Saturday afternoon. RPM From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 8 18:51:07 2001 Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 18:50:29 -0400 From: Chuck Pena To: DC Cycles , DC Cycles2 Subject: Olympia gloves FOR SALE I forgot to mention that the Olypmia kevlar sport gloves I have for sale are size small. Chuck -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 8 18:59:44 2001 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: Motorcycle parking downtown Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 18:59:34 -0400 Anyone know a good place to park a motorcycle downtown near the Hirshorn museum? Ricardo Pontes From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 8 20:08:48 2001 Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 20:07:58 -0400 From: Hand Ed To: Ricardo Pontes CC: Dccycles Subject: Re: Motorcycle parking downtown Richard, You can park motorcycles behind the FAA building, which is across Independence Ave. Ed Ricardo Pontes wrote: > Anyone know a good place to park a motorcycle downtown near the Hirshorn > museum? > > Ricardo Pontes From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 8 23:20:57 2001 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 20:20:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Nomad Subject: Beware in DC: Operation Speed Blitz To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hi all- The evening news reported that this weekend's MPD Operation Speed Blitz located at the 3rd street tunnel clocked a motorcycle on lazer at 132 MPH and promptly arrested the squid. The trailing motos were clocked at 90 MPH and stopped as well. The cops interviewed stated that they were stopping vehicles running 30 over the speed limit. Beware. Herb '99 VFR (Back from Canada were I reached 137 indicated/129 on the GPS with full luggage on a scenic straightaway). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 00:48:36 2001 Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 00:48:09 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Beware in DC: Operation Speed Blitz At 11:20 PM 9/8/2001, Nomad wrote: >The evening news reported that this weekend's MPD Operation Speed >Blitz located at the 3rd street tunnel clocked a motorcycle on lazer >at 132 MPH and promptly arrested the squid. The trailing motos were >clocked at 90 MPH and stopped as well. The cops interviewed stated >that they were stopping vehicles running 30 over the speed limit. >Beware. 3rd street tunnel is a mad speed zone. I used to commute into NE (cage) and traffic would generally run 80 through the tunnel inbound. Afternoons were always 40-50 thanks to standard rush hour. 90 sounds excessive, unless you have been in the flow. 132 is a bit ridiculous though. Hey - Do Yin was going to hit 211 with me tomorrow, but backed out. Anyone else want to run out West early afternoon? Video rig will be operational :-o _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 N38.84810 W77.44614 From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 09:29:24 2001 Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 09:29:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Beware in DC: Operation Speed Blitz From: Randy or Julie Moran To: Troutman , on 9.9.2001 12:48 AM, Troutman at mike@XXXXXX wrote: > At 11:20 PM 9/8/2001, Nomad wrote: >> The evening news reported that this weekend's MPD Operation Speed >> Blitz located at the 3rd street tunnel clocked a motorcycle on lazer >> at 132 MPH and promptly arrested the squid. The trailing motos were >> clocked at 90 MPH and stopped as well. The cops interviewed stated >> that they were stopping vehicles running 30 over the speed limit. >> Beware. > > 3rd street tunnel is a mad speed zone. I used to commute into NE (cage) > and traffic would generally run 80 through the tunnel inbound. Afternoons > were always 40-50 thanks to standard rush hour. 90 sounds excessive, > unless you have been in the flow. 132 is a bit ridiculous though. > > Hey - Do Yin was going to hit 211 with me tomorrow, but backed out. Anyone > else want to run out West early afternoon? Video rig will be operational :-o > > > > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > N38.84810 W77.44614 > > When are you going, Mike? I might be able to make it. Randy From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 09:40:34 2001 Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 09:42:53 -0400 From: Paul Wilson To: Nomad CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Beware in DC: Operation Speed Blitz Nomad wrote: > > Hi all- > > The evening news reported that this weekend's MPD Operation Speed > Blitz located at the 3rd street tunnel clocked a motorcycle on lazer > at 132 MPH and promptly arrested the squid. The trailing motos were > clocked at 90 MPH and stopped as well. The cops interviewed stated > that they were stopping vehicles running 30 over the speed limit. > Beware. > > Herb I live near enough to the SE Fwy. to hear the nightly running of the squids and it was especially bad last night. Sounds like they got a bit more excitement than they bargained for in the tunnel. 30 over in the tunnel is at least 70 or 80 mph. 30 over in DC also gets you a complimentary ride in a patrol car. Having listened to and witnessed excessive speeds on the freeway all summer (through a work zone no less) I figured a crackdown was in the offing. I guessed right. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 10:20:56 2001 From: "Guiseppi Milano" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: WV ride anyone Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:20:13 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C13919.03A20540 Any crusier type riders interested in taking a ride taking a ride today = around the Harpers Ferry, Sheperdstown, Martinsburg area drop me a line. = I'll be leaving the Falls Church area about noon. Joe VT1100 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C13919.03A20540
Any crusier type riders interested in = taking a ride=20 taking a ride today around the Harpers Ferry, Sheperdstown, Martinsburg = area=20 drop me a line. I'll be leaving the Falls Church area about = noon.
 
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C13919.03A20540-- From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 11:23:57 2001 Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 11:23:30 -0400 From: Chuck Pena To: DC Cycles , DC Cycles2 CC: Corbett Buford , mtwithrow@XXXXXX Subject: GP armor is SOLD My GP armor has been sold. Thanks to all who expressed interest. But the first person who actually showed up with $$$ took it away. Chuck -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 17:13:38 2001 Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 17:13:12 -0400 From: Chuck Pena To: DC Cycles , DC Cycles2 Subject: Fog City shield is SOLD Subject line says it all. Chuck -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 18:38:33 2001 From: Lodicojoe@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 18:38:21 EDT Subject: Unsubscribe To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Please unsubscribe me. From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 19:22:12 2001 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:21:16 EDT Subject: Free rides To: cb-750@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Saultwood@XXXXXX, C.D.Mullendore@XXXXXX, DWR233@XXXXXX, steve@XXXXXX, wef@XXXXXX, evilcotgrevil@XXXXXX, Kevrep96@XXXXXX This coming Tuesday Moto Guzzi NA will have a trailer full for demo bikes at Winchester Motorsports from about noon till five Bob McKeithen www.WVbiker.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 20:55:21 2001 From: Patti Rodgers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: parking in crystal city Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:55:19 EDT hi everyone- i'm hoping someone can refer me to a decently-priced parking garage in Crystal City (North 15th Street area). I'm going to a work-related training session there all this week and the parking lot at the trainer's site is insane--- $17 a day for the bike. Any leads would be really great! Just not too far from the area as I will be dragging around my laptop and about 100 books. Thanks in advance, Patti From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 21:31:20 2001 Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 21:24:50 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Patti Rodgers CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: parking in crystal city corner of 20th and Crystal Drive is host to a several bikes that park fer free. If it was after Sept 20 I could loan my underground garage parking sticker for a week or so, won't need it in North Cakalaki, parking's free on the Outer Banks. Bill Patti Rodgers wrote: > hi everyone- > > i'm hoping someone can refer me to a decently-priced parking garage in Crystal City (North 15th Street area). I'm going to a work-related training session there all this week and the parking lot at the trainer's site is insane--- $17 a day for the bike. Any leads would be really great! Just not too far from the area as I will be dragging around my laptop and about 100 books. > > Thanks in advance, > > Patti From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 9 23:44:37 2001 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 20:44:32 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: OT: looking for National Geographics To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I unfortunately lost some old email when my provider went out to lunch. I think it was somebody on this list that offered to unload a couple cases worth of old National Geographics in case I ever wanted them. Could that person contact me please? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 10 08:32:10 2001 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:33:52 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Dan Brown Subject: Bearings? I seem to remember someone having found a place to get replacement bearings and having a good enough experience with it that they posted on this list, fairly recently. I've, however, searched the archives and can't find the reference. Can someone send me the name of the place? Thanks. Dan. -- Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 10 08:32:13 2001 From: GOINGRIDING@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:32:05 EDT Subject: Re: pocket bike video To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Gotta love the "just pick it up and keep going" technique. Very cool video though....made me want to get one of those things. From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 10 09:08:02 2001 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:07:21 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: Patti Rodgers , "William J. Huson" CC: Subject: Re: parking in crystal city I forget the street names, so I may be echoing Bill's post - but at the north end of Crystal City there's find-your-own parking on the street that's perpendicular to Crystal Drive. I used to park on a section of unconnected sidewalk on a corner next to a tall chain link fence. There'd often be three bikes there and we never had a problem. best, Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "William J. Huson" Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 21:24:50 -0400 >corner of 20th and Crystal Drive is host to a several bikes that park fer free. If it was after Sept 20 I could loan my underground garage parking sticker for a week or so, won't need it in North Cakalaki, parking's free on the Outer Banks. > >Bill > > >Patti Rodgers wrote: > >> hi everyone- >> >> i'm hoping someone can refer me to a decently-priced parking garage in Crystal City (North 15th Street area). I'm going to a work-related training session there all this week and the parking lot at the trainer's site is insane--- $17 a day for the bike. Any leads would be really great! Just not too far from the area as I will be dragging around my laptop and about 100 books. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Patti > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 10 09:14:29 2001 From: Gaske David G DLVA To: "'Dan Brown'" , "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Bearings? Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:13:00 -0400 Motion Industries Inc, 6634 Fleet Dr 703-719-6803 -----Original Message----- From: Dan Brown [mailto:brown@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:34 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Bearings? I seem to remember someone having found a place to get replacement bearings and having a good enough experience with it that they posted on this list, fairly recently. I've, however, searched the archives and can't find the reference. Can someone send me the name of the place? Thanks. Dan. -- Resist or Serve From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 10 14:30:10 2001 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:35:24 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: 99 R6 For Sale For Sale 99 Yamaha R6, Blue and White App. 5500 miles, Recent full service, excellent cond, always garaged, adult owned. Bridgestone BT56SS tires, M4 Full Exhaust system, Jet Kit, Euro Tail section, LP Euro windshield, Speed Bleeders, Shop manual. $ 6000.00 or best offer Serious Inquiries only The bike is located in Bethesda George Cole 301-523-4161 From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 10 15:08:27 2001 Subject: Bike Night reminder From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:08:15 -0400 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Just a reminder that tomorrow night is Bike Night at Grevey's in Falls Church, VA, 5-9pm. All the details are on the website http://www.geocities.com/bikenight. Weather forecast is for a nice day tomorrow so hope a lot of you will be there! Our last Bike Night for this year will be at CarPool in Arlington, VA on Sunday, September 23rd, 5-9pm. Chuck DCCRCS #2 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 10 16:52:45 2001 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:51:20 EDT Subject: New e-mail address To: Shellnevada@XXXXXX, vavet1963@XXXXXX, ALANRIBNER@XXXXXX, abolt06@XXXXXX, kall@XXXXXX, AReed@XXXXXX, edscca@XXXXXX, GBarber433@XXXXXX, mb@XXXXXX, DCCALD@XXXXXX, carte@XXXXXX, TOODYBEAR@XXXXXX, cb-750@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, desaip@XXXXXX, sdewey@XXXXXX, dfritsch@XXXXXX, Dunlap_WH@XXXXXX, JimEpting@XXXXXX, John.J.Fisher@XXXXXX, SwanpondWV@XXXXXX, Gmars@XXXXXX, hpinc@XXXXXX, hahart@XXXXXX, danhaube@XXXXXX, mphcycles@XXXXXX, suesocold@XXXXXX, dh46245@XXXXXX, JayLFrye@XXXXXX, Saultwood@XXXXXX, JohnsoAn@XXXXXX, blasalle@XXXXXX, RacerStev@XXXXXX, gslorenz@XXXXXX, Lordorange@XXXXXX, rmaund@XXXXXX, E3mck@XXXXXX, gmckeithen@XXXXXX, shellga@XXXXXX, Gwenm@XXXXXX, charles.mclemore@XXXXXX, smcpeak@XXXXXX, MGCL@XXXXXX, msfcurriculumlist@XXXXXX, C.D.Mullendore@XXXXXX, nistsj@XXXXXX, jjcabin@XXXXXX, kenhpayson@XXXXXX, jphilips@XXXXXX, jrpoliti@XXXXXX, ppommer@XXXXXX, conchfritter@XXXXXX, IMALRT2@XXXXXX, steve@XXXXXX, tbw@XXXXXX, ghsimmons@XXXXXX, pjsimpson@XXXXXX, daisys@XXXXXX, TTEWS@XXXXXX, wef@XXXXXX, evilcotgrevil@XXXXXX, FFCRACE@XXXXXX, NJitzul@XXXXXX, Kevrep96@XXXXXX My new e mail address is bmckeithen@XXXXXX. The old one will be operable til the end of September. Bob McKeithen www.WVbiker.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 10 20:22:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8B0Mq609736 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:22:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA29388 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA21313 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [209.67.207.13]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA50584 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (max2h-189.his.com [216.32.85.189]) by mail.his.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA05125 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.20010910202314.010b2f40@his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:23:17 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Team Charm @ Summit Point 9/8-9/01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Read about it at: http://www.his.com/~harris/news.htm Enjoy! Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 07:52:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BBq5620126 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:51:23 -0400 Message-Id: <200109110751.AA59769456@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: RE: Bearings? X-Mailer: I'll second that. Motion Industries are GREAT folks. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Gaske David G DLVA Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:13:00 -0400 >Motion Industries Inc, 6634 Fleet Dr 703-719-6803 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dan Brown [mailto:brown@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 8:34 AM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Bearings? > > > > >I seem to remember someone having found a place to get replacement >bearings and having a good enough experience with it that they posted >on this list, fairly recently. I've, however, searched the archives and >can't find the reference. > >Can someone send me the name of the place? > >Thanks. >Dan. > > > >-- >Resist or Serve > From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 10:25:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.kivex.com (smtp-out.kivex.com [204.177.32.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BEPC622781 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kawgirl (kawgirl.kivex.com [208.213.150.18]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id KAA17209 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:24:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl To: dccycles Subject: anybody out there? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII who is still at work? Are the roads turning in to chaos? Can anybody see this stuff??? Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 10:31:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fulcrum ([204.70.128.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BEVu623008 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) id <0GJI004015OSSF@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.ie.cw.net ([204.70.128.53]) by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) with ESMTP id <0GJI0041N5OSPQ@XXXXXX>; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-gw.ie.cw.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:31:52 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:31:34 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: RE: anybody out there? To: "'lisa@XXXXXX'" , dccycles Message-id: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC6806809A5@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Supposedly DC is grid-locked, and a car bomb just exploded outside the State department. Both of the world trade center buildings have also just collapsed. -Calvin -----Original Message----- From: lisa@XXXXXX [mailto:lgoddard@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:25 AM To: dccycles Subject: anybody out there? who is still at work? Are the roads turning in to chaos? Can anybody see this stuff??? Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 10:32:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from atlanta.pop3now.com (pop3now.com [209.195.15.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BEWO623026 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:32:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by atlanta.pop3now.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f8BEVqG32033; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:31:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:31:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200109111431.f8BEVqG32033@atlanta.pop3now.com> From: To: lgoddard@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: anybody out there? > > who is still at work? Are the roads turning in to chaos? Can anybody see > this stuff??? Yes, I'm at Rt 1 & Fort Hunt. WW bridge is a crawl, Rt 1 is smooth. I saw, felt & heard the Pentagon blast, quite scary indeed. I knew that was an explosive (ex Army). Everyone please be safe and careful. Ride safe. Dave Yates -- Get Blue from American Express What's in it for you? Receive a $10 amazon.com gift certificate when you become a Cardmember, no Annual Fee, 0% introductory APR for purchases (6 months) Built in Online Security, Online shopping guarantee Get Blue. http://by.advertising.com/1/c/61936/29512/92680/92680 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 10:39:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14602.mail.yahoo.com (web14602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.82]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8BEdb623187 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010911143930.2762.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.42.208.148] by web14602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:39:30 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:39:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Knapik Subject: Re: anybody out there? To: "lisa@XXXXXX" , dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm still at work in Bethesda. The roads are a mess right now. --- "lisa@XXXXXX" wrote: > > who is still at work? Are the roads turning in to > chaos? Can anybody see > this stuff??? > > Lisa > '95 VFR > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 10:40:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BEeQ623208 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-20.patriot.net [209.249.181.20]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8BEeNX10678; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:40:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3B9E20E1.746D429E@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:34:09 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "lisa@XXXXXX" CC: dccycles Subject: Re: anybody out there? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did a u-turn halfway to work, only one missing in my domicile - our house guest went downtown to turn in a job app - hope she's okay... Bill lisa@XXXXXX wrote: > who is still at work? Are the roads turning in to chaos? Can anybody see > this stuff??? > > Lisa > '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 10:41:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9601.mail.yahoo.com (web9601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.180]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8BEfP623235 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010911144124.90025.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [151.200.16.190] by web9601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:41:24 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: anybody out there? To: "lisa@XXXXXX" , dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeah, I heard the Pentagon get hit. I'm right down the street from it. I'm home now. I hope everyone is safe. Time to go HARD. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- "lisa@XXXXXX" wrote: > > who is still at work? Are the roads turning in to > chaos? Can anybody see > this stuff??? > > Lisa > '95 VFR > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 10:57:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11107.mail.yahoo.com (web11107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.154]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8BEv7623675 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010911145706.98830.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.180.149] by web11107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:57:06 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 07:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Anyone Need Moto Assistance? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If anyone needs motorcycle assistance (evacuation, messenger, etc.) to aid in this disaster, please post ASAP. Call my cell number at 703-786-3286 if you can get through or land line to my home at 703-527-5535. I will assist in any way possible. If anyone on this list needs help, let me know immediately. Chris Weaver ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 11:29:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14601.mail.yahoo.com (web14601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.79]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8BFTu624301 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010911152955.20948.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.42.208.148] by web14601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:29:55 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:29:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Knapik Subject: Re: Anyone Need Moto Assistance? To: Chris Weaver , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010911145706.98830.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd second that, I think if anyone posts to the group, we'll be able to respond --- Chris Weaver wrote: > If anyone needs motorcycle assistance (evacuation, > messenger, etc.) to aid in this disaster, please > post > ASAP. Call my cell number at 703-786-3286 if you can > get through or land line to my home at 703-527-5535. > I > will assist in any way possible. > > If anyone on this list needs help, let me know > immediately. > > Chris Weaver > > ===== > Chris Weaver > VTR1000 YSR50 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 12:12:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14601.mail.yahoo.com (web14601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.79]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8BGCM625255 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010911161221.32756.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.42.208.148] by web14601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:12:21 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:12:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Knapik Subject: Call for blood doners To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The radio is calling for blood donations for victims coming out of the pentagon. It sounds like Virginia hospitals are in need. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 12:21:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com [24.37.122.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BGLA625464 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com (cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com [24.37.122.86]) by gillian.brauhausdc.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8BGL6G14953; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:21:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:21:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: Tom Knapik cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Call for blood doners In-Reply-To: <20010911161221.32756.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tom Knapik wrote: > The radio is calling for blood donations for victims > coming out of the pentagon. It sounds like Virginia > hospitals are in need. > Do they say specific places to go? -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 12:26:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BGQQ625536 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:26:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-115-7.s261.tnt9.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.115.7] helo=palladio1) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15gqMi-0005hR-00; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:26:25 -0400 Message-ID: <003501c13ade$a2ca4440$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Daniel H. Brown" , "Tom Knapik" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Call for blood doners Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:27:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Call 800-GIVELIFE to donate blood. Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel H. Brown To: Tom Knapik Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Call for blood doners > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tom Knapik wrote: > > > The radio is calling for blood donations for victims > > coming out of the pentagon. It sounds like Virginia > > hospitals are in need. > > > > Do they say specific places to go? > > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 12:36:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13402.mail.yahoo.com (web13402.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8BGaU625811 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010911163628.97762.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.14.174.34] by web13402.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:36:28 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:36:28 -0700 (PDT) From: rdrdr Reply-To: rdrdr@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone Need Moto Assistance? To: Tom Knapik , Chris Weaver , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010911152955.20948.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-167352946-1000226188=:97004" --0-167352946-1000226188=:97004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Post to the list - the closest to the need can respond better. Niv Tom Knapik wrote: I'd second that, I think if anyone posts to the group, we'll be able to respond --- Chris Weaver wrote: > If anyone needs motorcycle assistance (evacuation, > messenger, etc.) to aid in this disaster, please > post > ASAP. Call my cell number at 703-786-3286 if you can > get through or land line to my home at 703-527-5535. > I > will assist in any way possible. > > If anyone on this list needs help, let me know > immediately. > > Chris Weaver > > ===== > Chris Weaver > VTR1000 YSR50 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-167352946-1000226188=:97004 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Post to the list - the closest to the need can respond better.

 

Niv

  Tom Knapik <t_knapik@XXXXXX> wrote:

I'd second that, I think if anyone posts to the group,
we'll be able to respond
--- Chris Weaver wrote:
> If anyone needs motorcycle assistance (evacuation,
> messenger, etc.) to aid in this disaster, please
> post
> ASAP. Call my cell number at 703-786-3286 if you can
> get through or land line to my home at 703-527-5535.
> I
> will assist in any way possible.
>
> If anyone on this list needs help, let me know
> immediately.
>
> Chris Weaver
>
> =====
> Chris Weaver
> VTR1000 YSR50
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant
> messaging with Yahoo! Messenger
> http://im.yahoo.com


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Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-167352946-1000226188=:97004-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 13:27:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13002.mail.yahoo.com (web13002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.12]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8BHRG626859 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010911172715.25936.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.157.56.91] by web13002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:27:15 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:27:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Call for blood doners To: "Daniel H. Brown" , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There are two Inova places, Alexandria Hospital and near the Fairfax hospital, on Woodburn Road. I donated last month, so I don't think they will take me again so soon. --- "Daniel H. Brown" wrote: > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tom Knapik wrote: > > > The radio is calling for blood donations for victims > > coming out of the pentagon. It sounds like Virginia > > hospitals are in need. > > > > Do they say specific places to go? > > > -- > Dan Brown > brown@XXXXXX > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 13:31:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BHVO626975 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:31:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.212]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id NAA19260 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:31:23 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <00d501c13bb0$dd0bb760$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" References: <20010911172715.25936.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Call for blood doners Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:32:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 They are checking into waiving the duration since last donation due to need. I'll let you know if I get any news. Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education ----- Original Message ----- From: Louis F. Caplan To: Daniel H. Brown ; DC-Cycles Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Call for blood doners > There are two Inova places, Alexandria Hospital and near the Fairfax hospital, > on Woodburn Road. I donated last month, so I don't think they will take me > again so soon. > > --- "Daniel H. Brown" wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tom Knapik wrote: > > > > > The radio is calling for blood donations for victims > > > coming out of the pentagon. It sounds like Virginia > > > hospitals are in need. > > > > > > > Do they say specific places to go? > > > > > > -- > > Dan Brown > > brown@XXXXXX > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/01 From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 13:35:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com [24.37.122.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BHZl627114 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com (cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com [24.37.122.86]) by gillian.brauhausdc.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8BHZlG15110 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:35:47 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:35:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Call for blood doners In-Reply-To: <20010911172715.25936.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII here's a list I just picked up at the Arlington Red Cross -- they do not have a blood donor van there: 1800 GIVE LIFE 1800-448-3543 Inova Alexandria Blood Center 703-504-3500 Inova Fair Oaks Blood Center 703-391-3859 Inova Fairfax hospital 703- 698 1110 Northern VA Community Hospital Arlington <- this may be closed. 601 Carlin Springs Rd. 703-671-1200 On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Louis F. Caplan wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:27:15 -0700 (PDT) > From: Louis F. Caplan > To: Daniel H. Brown , > DC-Cycles > Subject: Re: Call for blood doners > > There are two Inova places, Alexandria Hospital and near the Fairfax hospital, > on Woodburn Road. I donated last month, so I don't think they will take me > again so soon. > > --- "Daniel H. Brown" wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tom Knapik wrote: > > > > > The radio is calling for blood donations for victims > > > coming out of the pentagon. It sounds like Virginia > > > hospitals are in need. > > > > > > > Do they say specific places to go? > > > > > > -- > > Dan Brown > > brown@XXXXXX > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > http://im.yahoo.com > -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 14:03:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13501.mail.yahoo.com (web13501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.80]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8BI3X627605 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010911180329.68216.qmail@web13501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.156.39.165] by web13501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:03:29 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:03:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric M. Winslow" Subject: Re: Call for blood doners To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <00d501c13bb0$dd0bb760$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anybody know where to donate in NW DC? I can't get through on the phone or the web to the Red Cross. eric --- Danny Thompson wrote: > They are checking into waiving the duration since last donation due > to need. > I'll let you know if I get any news. > Danny Thompson > Liberty High School Technology Education > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Louis F. Caplan > To: Daniel H. Brown ; DC-Cycles > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:27 PM > Subject: Re: Call for blood doners > > > > There are two Inova places, Alexandria Hospital and near the > Fairfax > hospital, > > on Woodburn Road. I donated last month, so I don't think they > will take > me > > again so soon. > > > > --- "Daniel H. Brown" wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Tom Knapik wrote: > > > > > > > The radio is calling for blood donations for victims > > > > coming out of the pentagon. It sounds like Virginia > > > > hospitals are in need. > > > > > > > > > > Do they say specific places to go? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Dan Brown > > > brown@XXXXXX > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! > Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/5/01 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 14:34:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20102.mail.yahoo.com (web20102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8BIY2628153 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010911183400.19946.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.252.8.97] by web20102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:34:00 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: insurance valuations are weird To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I crashed my '96 trident back in late July and put in a claim to Geico to see what they'd do about it. They figured a 2000 salvage value (which I would agree with) but they are calculating fair market at 8 grand. I paid 4k for it in Feb this year. Does this happen with other people? If it goes thru I'll *make* money on this bike and still have posession. 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Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 15:42:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BJg7629675 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:42:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04768 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20029 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CJ144294A (A040-0320.MLE2.splitrock.net [64.198.131.66]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f8BJg44233996 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:42:04 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: Pentagon Attack Photos Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:42:03 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Please don't save these or distibute the photos. I'll get fired. Please- Listers only. http://www.robcurtis.com/pentattack/index.htm Rob Curtis Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ Never be afraid to try something new; remember, amateurs built the Ark, and professionals built the Titanic. __________________ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 15:47:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BJlX629787 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-88-81.s589.tnt5.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.88.81] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15gtVL-00048u-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:47:31 -0400 Message-ID: <00db01c13afa$b8be5180$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Blood donor information Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:48:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 >From the Washinton Post web site. Apparently the Red Cross is NOT making an emergency appeal for blood in the DC area at this time. Potential Blood Donors Urged to Schedule Appointments By Avram Goldstein Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, September 11, 2001; 3:27 PM Hundreds of area residents volunteered to donate blood at American Red Cross and hospital facilities today, but thousands more who wanted to were confused about how to help. The Red Cross so far has not issued an emergency appeal for donations, according to spokeswoman Carrie Martin. That could change, however, and in the meantime the blood agency asks that donors call 800-GIVELIFE, or 800-448-3543, to make an appointment. "I know a lot of people are trying to get through to the GIVELIFE number because it's being inundated with calls," said Carrie A. Martin, a spokeswoman for the national capital chapter of the American Red Cross. "We're encouraging people to remain patient and keep calling and schedule an appointment at your nearest blood donation center." In Northern Virginia, Inova Health Systems will keep its Woodburn Donor Center open around the clock through tomorrow and perhaps longer, said company spokeswoman Lisa Wolfington. This morning 300 people were lined up to donate, she said. The center is at 3289 Woodburn Rd., Suite 10, adjacent to Inova Fairfax Hospital. "We have a traffic jam outside the center," she said. "At least 200 people are here now." People may make an appointment to donate at the facility with a toll-free call to 866-BLOODSAVES, or 866-256-6372. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 15:55:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cj30520-a.manss1.va.home.com (cj30520-a.manss1.va.home.com [24.7.169.75]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BJtI629959 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 26526 invoked by uid 48381); 11 Sep 2001 19:55:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:55:04 -0400 From: Matthew Harrell To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Blood donor information Message-ID: <20010911155504.A26381@bittwiddlers.com> References: <9nlpus$pm5$1@alecto.bittwiddlers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9nlpus$pm5$1@alecto.bittwiddlers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i > In Northern Virginia, Inova Health Systems will keep its Woodburn Donor > Center open around the clock through tomorrow and perhaps longer, said > company spokeswoman Lisa Wolfington. This morning 300 people were lined up > to donate, she said. The center is at 3289 Woodburn Rd., Suite 10, adjacent > to Inova Fairfax Hospital. This is pretty much what I heard from the cop over at the PW Hospital. He said they had about a four hour line there at Inova but they have a schedule in place to take blood over the next week or so. I've got listings for times and days if anyone is interested. -- Matthew Harrell I have the power to channel my Bit Twiddlers, Inc. imagination into ever-soaring mharrell@XXXXXX levels of suspicion and paranoia. From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 16:52:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BKqN601272 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 311homebase ([24.163.97.64]) by mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:52:12 -0400 Message-ID: <007d01c13b03$a1903dd0$6601a8c0@311homebase> From: "DC Anderson III" To: "Matthew Harrell" , "DC Cycles List" References: <9nlpus$pm5$1@alecto.bittwiddlers.com> <20010911155504.A26381@bittwiddlers.com> Subject: Re: Blood donor information Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:52:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 can you post or send me the list for times and days? thx DC Anderson III 2000 YZF-R6 Fairfax, VA USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Harrell" To: "DC Cycles List" Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 15:55 Subject: Re: Blood donor information > > > > In Northern Virginia, Inova Health Systems will keep its Woodburn Donor > > Center open around the clock through tomorrow and perhaps longer, said > > company spokeswoman Lisa Wolfington. This morning 300 people were lined up > > to donate, she said. The center is at 3289 Woodburn Rd., Suite 10, adjacent > > to Inova Fairfax Hospital. > > This is pretty much what I heard from the cop over at the PW Hospital. He > said they had about a four hour line there at Inova but they have a schedule > in place to take blood over the next week or so. I've got listings for times > and days if anyone is interested. > > -- > Matthew Harrell I have the power to channel my > Bit Twiddlers, Inc. imagination into ever-soaring > mharrell@XXXXXX levels of suspicion and paranoia. From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 17:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cj30520-a.manss1.va.home.com (cj30520-a.manss1.va.home.com [24.7.169.75]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8BL3c601499 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 28487 invoked by uid 48381); 11 Sep 2001 21:03:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:03:32 -0400 From: Matthew Harrell To: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Blood donor information Message-ID: <20010911170332.A28342@bittwiddlers.com> References: <9nlpus$pm5$1@alecto.bittwiddlers.com> <20010911155504.A26381@bittwiddlers.com> <9nlthv$rjc$1@alecto.bittwiddlers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9nlthv$rjc$1@alecto.bittwiddlers.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.21i > can you post or send me the list for times and days? Sure but unfortunately I just realized the list is primarily for PW blood drives so there might be easier ones for you to get to if you can get a hold of anyone at American Red Cross 800-272-0310 800-272-0024 Fairfax Hospital Blood Donor Center 703-698-3892 The PW page is at http://www.pwcweb.com/redcross The list I've got shows the next blood drives will be on the 15th in Woodbridge at St Paul's United Methodist Church 8:30 am to 12:30 pm USO 9 am to 3 pm Potomac Hospital 2 pm to 8 pm PW County Government Center 8 am to 5 pm There are more this month but these are the first ones. They also say you can call 800-Give-Life and schedule an appointment so that might be the easiest thing to do if you can get through. Like I mentioned before the Inova center in Centreville (across from the Multiplex on 28) is doing blood donations but they're supposedly really backed up right now -- Matthew Harrell Never raise your hand to your Bit Twiddlers, Inc. children - it leaves your mharrell@XXXXXX midsection unprotected. From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 20:47:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com (imo-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8C0lY606001 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id 2.30.1a959098 (16488) for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:47:07 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Message-ID: <30.1a959098.28d00a8b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:47:07 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/11/01 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Matt, That sounds about like what happened on the Night Hawk vs Bambi Bob McKeithen www.WVbiker.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 21:09:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8C192606411 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO (1Cust86.tnt39.tco2.da.uu.net [63.48.140.86]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f8C18q097527 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:08:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002301c13b27$939d2fc0$568c303f@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: Fw: ONE DAY SALE! THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2001 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:09:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C13B06.0B882980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C13B06.0B882980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, Here we go again. To anyone who may be interested: ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Motorcycle Accessory Warehouse=20 To: mailto:Undisclosed-Recipient:@pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net=20 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 6:04 PM Subject: ONE DAY SALE! THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2001=20 ONE DAY SALE! 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------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C13B06.0B882980-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 21:11:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f258.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.133]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8C1Bb606455 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:59:47 -0700 Received: from 24.4.252.26 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 00:59:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.252.26] From: "Jay Block" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Today Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:59:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 00:59:47.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[37B79A20:01C13B26] Hey guys, I hope everyone is okay. I am in Baltimore and our reaction speaks nothing of what must be happening in DC. I have extra bedrooms in Owings Mills if anyone needs a place. My home number is 410-356-1517. Rob, all I can say is "Wow!" Jay Block _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 21:29:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8C1TB606840 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO (1Cust86.tnt39.tco2.da.uu.net [63.48.140.86]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f8C1T4098792 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:29:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002f01c13b2a$663e2ae0$568c303f@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: O/T - Newspaper extras... Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:29:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hey, To any of you DC residents or even those of you who work in DC, I need your help. I very much want a few copies (about 2 of each if I can) of each newspaper extra concerning today's attacks. Both the Post and The Times printed late-day extras about the events. If it's not too late or too much trouble, could somebody snag me a few of them? New would be preferred, but I guess I can handle previously read if that's all I can get. I'll make arrangements to pick it/them up from you as soon as I can. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help! Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 21:33:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13805.mail.yahoo.com (web13805.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8C1Xb606930 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:33:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010912013307.36366.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.35] by web13805.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:33:07 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:33:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Today To: Jay Block , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i just rode the vfr all around dc and near the pentagon. surreal. sun setting over the smoke and helicopters. in dc, police and national guard everywhere. --- Jay Block wrote: > Hey guys, I hope everyone is okay. I am in > Baltimore and our reaction > speaks nothing of what must be happening in DC. I > have extra bedrooms in > Owings Mills if anyone needs a place. My home > number is 410-356-1517. > > Rob, all I can say is "Wow!" > > Jay Block > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 22:02:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13004.mail.yahoo.com (web13004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.14]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8C22A607526 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010912020153.67136.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.44.57.213] by web13004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:01:53 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:01:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Ehlert Subject: Re: Today To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii freaking crazy.... I was in the pentagon corridor 2. The plane smashed into corridor 4. I just got back into my office telling everybody that two planes flew into the trade centers in nyc when i felt the building tremor. We ran out through the thick smoke with floating debris. Just horrible day. matt http:www.erols.com/matt-ehlert --- Jay Block wrote: > Hey guys, I hope everyone is okay. I am in > Baltimore and our reaction > speaks nothing of what must be happening in DC. I > have extra bedrooms in > Owings Mills if anyone needs a place. My home > number is 410-356-1517. > > Rob, all I can say is "Wow!" > > Jay Block > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 22:44:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8C2i7608263 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ix.netcom.com (dialup-209.244.226.247.Dial1.Washington1.Level3.net [209.244.226.247]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00433; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:43:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B9ECBCC.2852EEF5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:43:24 -0400 From: Chuck Pena Reply-To: the_penas@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Ehlert CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Today References: <20010912020153.67136.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt, Glad to hear you are OK. I was at a meeting/briefing yesterday in the E-ring and just couldn't believe what happened today. Prayers go out to all those and their families who were the innocent victims of today's terrorist acts at the WTC and Pentagon. Chuck Matthew Ehlert wrote: > > freaking crazy.... I was in the pentagon > corridor 2. The plane smashed into corridor 4. I > just got back into my office telling everybody that > two planes flew into the trade centers in nyc when i > felt the building tremor. We ran out through the > thick smoke with floating debris. Just horrible day. -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 11 23:05:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp7vepub.verizon.net (smtp7vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.28]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8C35Y608816 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:05:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net ([151.200.19.35]) by smtp7vepub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id WAA17988630 Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:05:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010911225533.00aec880@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:06:03 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Today In-Reply-To: <20010912020153.67136.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:01 PM 9/11/01, Matt wrote: >freaking crazy.... I was in the pentagon >corridor 2. The plane smashed into corridor 4. I >just got back into my office telling everybody that >two planes flew into the trade centers in nyc when i >felt the building tremor. We ran out through the >thick smoke with floating debris. Just horrible day. My brother-in-law's office is in D ring, just off corridor 4. He has cable tv in his office, and was watching the NY story on CNN, so when he felt the shock he pretty much guessed right away what it was. He only had a few of the new blast-proof glass panes blow in, but the general next door was trapped in his office because of minor structure shifting, and they had to break his door down to get him out. When the evac was over, he walked down to our house in Alexandria and spent the afternoon until he could get home -- his car was trapped in Pentagon south parking. Since there was so little damage to D ring right off 4, let's all hope the death estimates come in at the very lowest end of the 100-800 range they're quoting on tv right tonight. All those years of working in the Pentagon and joking about "ground zero" seem sort of remote right now... -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 07:59:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8CBxC618525 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-47-111.s365.tnt4.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.47.111]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15h8fZ-0006zW-00; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:59:05 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Smaller bike for sale? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:59:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <01090709520908.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> <20010907150312.94091.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010907150312.94091.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8CC0t618526 On Fri, 7 Sep 2001 08:03:12 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: |>i took the settlement check for my stolen 900rr and bought |>a ring for my wife. do i qualify?!? :) |> it sounds like love is an evil thing! From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 08:18:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8CCIM618836 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-47-111.s365.tnt4.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.47.111]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15h8y9-0003eV-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:18:18 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 2000 zx6r for sale $5400 OBO Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:19:09 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8CCIW618837 I just got a new bike, so i'm willing to let my old one go. It's a 2000 red kawasaki zx6r. It's got 17k miles on it (what can I say I love to ride) it was involved in a minor accident when a lost and confused young lady concerned about her muffler dragging decided to make a right hand turn (into me) from the middle lane on NY ave. I have yet to fix it up completely because someone on ebay was supposed to sendme a front upper, and has me waiting 3 weeks. I have 2 new side fairings.. the extent of work it needs is as follows: buy and attatch new front fairing and front turn signals (have the old one which can be fixed and re-painted) extract 2 broken off small bolts that hold the upper fairing (one on each side) attatch both new side fairings front rim has a ding but the tire holds air fine and the chain and sprocket seem fine, but it's getting about that milage point to change it.. 15 to 20k and it's at 17 k (recently tightened it) That's about it.. oh yea the left handle bar is slightly bent but i have a replacement already.. I may change that myself in the mean time. I'd like to get $5400 OBO ( have to put that towards paying off the new bike) This would be great for racers. email me if youre interested. this is a light, comfortable, flickable, quick bike. I actually wish I could afford to keep it. Danny From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 08:44:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11101.mail.yahoo.com (web11101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.148]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8CCis619218 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010912124446.44404.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 05:44:46 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 05:44:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Fwd: FW: National Emergency - Help us to reach out To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A member of my extended family is a therapist. She sent me the following email in the hope that it might help people affected by the tragedy. Please feel free to forward this to anyone you know who needs counseling. Chris Weaver > Subject: National Emergency - Help us to reach out > Date: Tue, Sep 11, 2001, 4:19 PM > > > FROM: Dr. Gary C. Goldman > Director of Professional Services > MyTherapyNetwork > TO: All MTN Providers > SUBJECT: Help us get out the word > DATE: 10 September 2001 > > The number for the clients to call to reach our FREE > service for this > National Emergency is 800/873-7100. All they have > to do is call that > number and press the M-^S#M-^T sign to get put through to > an available therapist > to get help. > > Please pass this information on to all your local > radio stations, TV > stations, and newspapers in your community, as well > as anyone else you can > reach. The more you each reach out, the more people > will hear about us > and can get help. > > If anyone needs more information (regarding our > service, not help with > their grief) they can reach me at 888/789-6780. > > Thanks again for all your help. > > GARY > ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 10:16:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe54.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.54]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8CEGG620809 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:04:18 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.119.26.40] From: "Dexter Medley" To: Subject: the best and worst in America... Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:06:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C13B72.88A4D960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 14:04:18.0257 (UTC) FILETIME=[D036D410:01C13B93] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C13B72.88A4D960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yesterday's tragic events brought out the best in America in many ways = -- the long lines to donate blood, the horde of hospital volunteers, = etc. But they also bring out the very worst at the same time. My brother and his wife are right now in the midst of riding their = Valkyrie and Magna from Spokane, Washington, to their home near Atlanta. = They've swung through Yellowstone, the Grand Tetons, Mt. Rushmore, etc. = so far, including two days of snow and sleet with weather in the 20's. = No interstate's, just country roads, and they said the twisties in the = Black Hills far exceeded their usual north Georgia routes! But yesterday, as they rode 450 miles from SD through Nebraska, they = encountered not one, not a few, but *all* gas stations gouging around $5 = per gallon for gas, with panic-driven lines at least 15 cars long for = every pump. I'd heard a mention of $5/gal at one station in Kansas on TV = yesterday, but confirmation of this widespread "capitalistic" activity = in the "heartland" of the USA is pretty sickening. -- Larry ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C13B72.88A4D960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yesterday's tragic events brought out the best in = America in=20 many ways -- the long lines to donate blood, the horde of hospital = volunteers,=20 etc. But they also bring out the very worst at the same = time.
 
My brother and his wife are right now in the midst = of riding=20 their Valkyrie and Magna from Spokane, Washington, to their home near = Atlanta.=20 They've swung through Yellowstone, the Grand Tetons, Mt. Rushmore, etc. = so far,=20 including two days of snow and sleet with weather in the 20's. No = interstate's,=20 just country roads, and they said the twisties in the Black Hills far = exceeded=20 their usual north Georgia routes!
 
But yesterday, as they rode 450 miles from SD = through=20 Nebraska, they encountered not one, not a few, but *all* gas stations = gouging=20 around $5 per gallon for gas, with panic-driven lines at least 15 cars = long for=20 every pump. I'd heard a mention of $5/gal at one station in Kansas on TV = yesterday, but confirmation of this widespread "capitalistic" activity = in the=20 "heartland" of the USA is pretty sickening.
 
-- Larry
 
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C13B72.88A4D960-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 11:05:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11004.mail.yahoo.com (web11004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.54]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8CF5b621844 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010912150512.58826.qmail@web11004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.160.3.131] by web11004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:05:12 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:05:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: OT - Looking for web guru type To: cycles2 , DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Our project is looking for a web designer/developer. It is a long term contract position for an interesting and challenging government project. Those interested send resume and cover letter to gene.russell@XXXXXX Trey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 15:10:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f16.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8CJAd625530 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:25:33 -0700 Received: from 166.32.192.143 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 18:25:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [166.32.192.143] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Bike Night... Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:25:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 18:25:33.0116 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F287FC0:01C13BB8] While it certainly wasn't a night to celebrate, a few of us did manage to pull ourselves away from our home televisions to chat, reflect, and sympathize for all those affected by the tragedies. The time away from the press coverage was limited to our rides there however, since all the tv's at Grevey's were on different news channels, but the fresh air did me a world of good. As did seeing the American Flags flying on the Falls Road overpass on the beltway. I think we had 10 total show up throughout the night. (4 VFR's ;), a Kat 750, SV650, Duc Monster, Nighthawk, R6, and an R1100S. Forgive me if I forgot anyone. I think George took a couple digital pics as proof. There was also a decent crowd of non-bikers there, too. Let's make our next Bike Night one to remember, and perhaps all share a moment of silence, as the healing process will still be in full swing then. Take care all and God Speed. Rob '98 VFR800 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 15:27:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14602.mail.yahoo.com (web14602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.82]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8CJRC626057 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:27:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010912182707.71502.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.102.109.98] by web14602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:27:07 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:27:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David Subject: The Change To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2030552817-1000319227=:71201" --0-2030552817-1000319227=:71201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry to some of you if this isn't an appropriate forum, but I thought some people might be able to use these words. (which, aren't mine but were written by Garth Brooks after the Oklahoma City Bombing) David Lusk Honda Aero 1100 The Change One hand, reaches out and pulls a lost soul from harm. While a thousand more go unspoken for, and they say what good have you done By saving just this one. It's like whispering a prayer in the fury of a storm . And I hear them saying you'll never change things, and no matter what you do it's still the same thing. But it's not the world that I am changing. I do this so this world will know that it will not change me. This heart still believes that love and mercy still exist. While all the hatred rage and so many say that love is all but pointless in madness such as this. It's like trying to stop a fire with the moisture from a kiss. As long as one heart still holds on then hope is never really gone. What I do is so This world will know That it will not change me --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-2030552817-1000319227=:71201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Sorry to some of you if this isn't an appropriate forum, but I thought some people might be able to use these words.  (which, aren't mine but were written by Garth Brooks after the Oklahoma City Bombing)

David Lusk

Honda Aero 1100

 

The Change

One hand, reaches out and pulls a lost soul from harm.
While a thousand more go unspoken for, and they say what good have you done
By saving just this one.
It's like whispering a prayer in the fury of a storm .

And I hear them saying you'll never change things, and no matter what you do it's still the same thing.
But it's not the world that I am changing. I do this so this world will know that it will not change me.

This heart still believes that love and mercy still exist.
While all the hatred rage and so many say that love is all but pointless in madness such as this.
It's like trying to stop a fire with the moisture from a kiss.

As long as one heart still holds on then hope is never really gone.

What I do is so
This world will know
That it will not change me
 



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Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. --0-2030552817-1000319227=:71201-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 15:28:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8CJSI626106 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:37:12 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B795009027626986210457@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 09/11/01 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:37:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks to everyone who suggested parking areas in Crystal City... it certainly was an adventure there this week. Yesterday we actually watched the Pentagon explosion, total chaos on the streets... and today a fire in the parking garage of Crystal Park 5, where I was taking my class. So that's the end of the class for now! But thanks for the tips... Please keep all the rescue workers, firefighters, cops, etc close in your thoughts this week. My brother is one, shock trauma doctor from Chicago, flown into New York by the military early this morning. These folks are the real heroes and could use all the good karma we can spare! From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 15:45:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20101.mail.yahoo.com (web20101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8CJjQ626842 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:45:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010912154521.75142.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.252.8.97] by web20101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:45:20 PDT Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:45:20 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: liquidation sale 10/14 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii at bob's BMW in Jessup MD. they bought out cycleshark.com's warehouse and are getting rid of said contents. 10630 Riggs Hill road is the location. from 10 to 3. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 16:49:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8CKn4628468 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:49:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w078 ([168.144.108.78]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:51:26 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Bike Night... Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:48:47 -0400 To: "robkeiser@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Sep 2001 20:51:26.0635 (UTC) FILETIME=[B0A97FB0:01C13BCC] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8CKnq628469 Rob, I agree. Let's make our next Bike Night the biggest one ever. It will be good for the soul and spirit in the aftermath of yesterday. Chuck Original Message : ----------------- From: Rob Keiser robkeiser@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:25:32 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Bike Night... Let's make our next Bike Night one to remember, and perhaps all share a moment of silence, as the healing process will still be in full swing then. Take care all and God Speed. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 17:28:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2 (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8CLSr629455 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p57.a4.du.radix.net [207.192.130.185]) by pop2 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA07199 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:28:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Dave Yates'" , "DC Cycles List \(E-mail\)" Subject: OT Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:23:59 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c13bd2$b19cd1a0$b982c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 EMC in Alexandria is looking for Developer / programmer types proficient in "C, C++, or Java" If you know of anyone, please email me off list Thanks ! Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 17:33:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8CLXc629574 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-47-111.s365.tnt4.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.47.111]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15hHdY-00078w-00; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:33:36 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 2000 zx6r for sale $5400 OBO Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:34:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8CLXd629576 Also, a freind of mine is going to give me a front upper tomorrow. So the bike may be in pretty good shape soon. I might do all the fixing up on it to sell it. Danny On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:19:09 -0700, you wrote: |>I just got a new bike, so i'm willing to let my old one go. |> |>It's a 2000 red kawasaki zx6r. |>It's got 17k miles on it (what can I say I love to ride) |>it was involved in a minor accident when a lost and confused young |>lady concerned about her muffler dragging decided to make a right hand |>turn (into me) from the middle lane on NY ave. |> |>I have yet to fix it up completely because someone on ebay was |>supposed to sendme a front upper, and has me waiting 3 weeks. |>I have 2 new side fairings.. the extent of work it needs is as |>follows: |> |>buy and attatch new front fairing and front turn signals |>(have the old one which can be fixed and re-painted) |>extract 2 broken off small bolts that hold the upper fairing |>(one on each side) |>attatch both new side fairings |>front rim has a ding but the tire holds air fine |>and the chain and sprocket seem fine, but it's getting about that |>milage point to change it.. 15 to 20k and it's at 17 k |>(recently tightened it) |> |>That's about it.. oh yea the left handle bar is slightly bent but i |>have a replacement already.. I may change that myself in the mean |>time. |> |>I'd like to get $5400 OBO |>( have to put that towards paying off the new bike) |> |>This would be great for racers. email me if youre interested. |>this is a light, comfortable, flickable, quick bike. I actually wish I |>could afford to keep it. |> |>Danny From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 20:30:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8D0UH603350 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id 2.122.484bcc6 (4466) for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:30:07 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <122.484bcc6.28d1580e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:30:06 EDT Subject: Irony sucks To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 The following is a message I am cross posting from another list. It is from the fellow I mentioned the other day who had to worry about his bike being damaged by mortar fire. I said something like "at least we do not have to worry about it here... yea right... We have (unfortunately) become all too accustomed to this kind of murder / outrage. Over here you can't walk into any public facility, or even a supermarket, without being searched. It is both demeaning and ridiculous. I will only add that I hope the U.S.A. takes positive action to hurt those who perpetrated this, and that certainly includes the so-called innocents who provide moral and material support. Support from someone who knows. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 12 21:21:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8D1LN604391 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA12763 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA03390 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CJ144294A (A040-0818.MLE2.splitrock.net [64.198.133.56]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f8D1L0493414 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:01 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 How many folks would show up for a group ride through DC and past the Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? Say one evening this week? If there are enough of us, it would be a tremendous show of support and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our bikes or have passengers carry them. How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the Sears side of the Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at 6:30, Flags ready. If folks need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme Know. I would suggest that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten the impact of our gesture. Rob Curtis Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ Never be afraid to try something new; remember, amateurs built the Ark, and professionals built the Titanic. __________________ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 04:55:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.145]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8D8tb613125 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj618467a ([24.23.166.212]) by femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010913085525.ULSF21343.femail18.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj618467a> for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 01:55:25 -0700 Message-ID: <001601c13c32$205bc100$d4a61718@alex1.va.home.com> From: "John Luc" To: "DC-Cycles" References: <20010627193609.31401.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:57:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sorry, and I hope I don't offend anyone, but I am looking for a female riding companion. Going through a divorce - I promised myself the next woman in my life WOULD understand the addictive nature of motorcycling. So if you're a beautiful :) (single) motorcycle riding woman, who happens to like homely black motorcycle riding guys (smile) - I am up for adoption (smile). Just send me a wink. Thanks>>>Jean-Luc ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeannette To: Dale Horstman ; Trey Herb Cc: DC-Cycles Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: Re: ride to work day > I'd be up for Grevey's, but Sterling is a bit of a > hike for me on lunch break... > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > --- Dale Horstman wrote: > > > > > > Anyone up for a DC-Cycles "Ride to Lunch" event on > > that day? I'm thinking the Burger King on Route 7 > > in Sterling, (or maybe even Grevey's) would be a > > good central gathering spot. Other easy-access > > location suggestions welcomed. Fast food would > > probably > > be better, since we'll probably all end up in the > > parking lot BSing anyway. :) > > > > Horkster > > > > -- > > Mandatory second line (CM tm) > > > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 > > - 40 of 99 done. > > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 07:01:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13001.mail.yahoo.com (web13001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DB11614974 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913110100.46477.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.26.119.84] by web13001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:01:00 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Ride 4 Kides will go on To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry if I sent out a blank post a minute ago, Yahoo gets sensative if you hit return in the wrong field. (Bad pinky finger!!) Anyway, I just checked the Ride For Kids page (http://www.ride4kids.org) and they have the following message: "The Ride for Kids event scheduled for this Sunday, September 16, 2001, in Columbia, MD will take place as planned. Our program will include a special memorial to those who died in the terrorist acts on the US this week. Please come and help us remember those who lost their lives this week as we continue the battle against childhood brain tumors." I have wanted to attend a Ride For Kids for a while, but was always teaching or out of town the weekend of the ride. So I'm glad they have decided to continue. Hopefully it will help things to start feeling on track again. Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Alexandria, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://members.nbci.com/Nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 07:01:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DB1G614984 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-33.patriot.net [209.249.181.33]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8DB1EX11537 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:01:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3BA09085.7C440304@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:55:01 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: NON Moto - for computer techies... Redux... References: <3B8CD9FB.A18E5A64@patriot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry about laptop computers. I purchased a used/refurbished IBM ThinkPad 600 which has more stuff then I need for mere word processing. Got a free carry case, and - funneee - free speakers which wiegh more than the dang computer. They'll stay home in the box. Only one prob, the screen driver is an VGA and I couldn't find a better one onboard the computer. Looks like a tech-help call to IBM is in order. It is usable with a VGA but I would like better screen resolution - the dodgey VGA is rough on my ol' peepers. Now for the real world computer test! On Sep 20 I'll be blasting off for a much needed get-away-from-this-crazy-world motorcycle trip. The laptop will be in the Harley bag, shakin' and vibin'. Bill From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 07:39:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DBdp615636 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:39:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.4.) id e.123.4808b4b (16093); Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:39:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web27.aolmail.aol.com (web27.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.3]) by air-id10.mx.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID109-0913073939; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:39:39 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:39:39 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <123.4808b4b.28d1f4fb@aol.com> If it weren't for the fact that my bike is in the shop with an electrical problem, I would. As it is, I hope you pull this off and I'll be there in spirit. Scooter In a message dated Wed, 12 Sep 2001 9:25:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Rob Curtis" writes: > How many folks would show up for a group ride through DC and past the > Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? Say one evening this > week? If there are enough of us, it would be a tremendous show of support > and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. > We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our bikes or have > passengers carry them. > How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the Sears side of the > Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at 6:30, Flags ready. If folks > need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme Know. I would suggest > that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten the impact of our > gesture. > > Rob Curtis > Staff Photographer > Army Times Publishing Co. > Springfield, VA > > http://www.robcurtis.com > __________________ > Never be afraid to try something new; > remember, amateurs built the Ark, and > professionals built the Titanic. > __________________ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 08:10:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14604.mail.yahoo.com (web14604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.84]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DCAJ616061 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913121017.85253.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.42.208.143] by web14604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:10:17 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Knapik Subject: Areostitch Combat Touring Boots To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anybody have a pair of Areostitch Combat Touring Boots? I'm looking for opinions on how well made they are and how they stack up as a pair of all round MC boots. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 08:31:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.5]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DCVP616461 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp.ddlomni.com from localhost (router,SLMail V5.0); Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:31:51 -0400 for Received: from jstrang [204.245.128.170] by smtp.ddlomni.com [204.245.128.5] (SLmail 5.0.0.4342) with SMTP id 35CADE8EA7F711D58E1E006008C770E5 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:31:51 -0400 From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:30:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001601c13c32$205bc100$d4a61718@alex1.va.home.com> X-SLUIDL: D5BFDB1E-A77F11D5-8E1E0060-08C770E5 heh. I always wondered where a guy could find a single m/c riding woman. They're rare and very desirable, so every one I've met already had a S.O. I can't decide whether to applaud Jean Luc's initiative or pity him. The "D" is not fun. Jean, if this works, let me know. If my current (non-moto) gf doesn't work out, maybe I'll try this route ;-) --jon 34yo, SWPM, 6', athletic build, br hair, haz eyes; Enjoys bikes (pedal and motor), cooking (I have an herb garden), red wine, music from Kennedy Center to Wolf Trap to 9:30 Club, watch indie and foreign films along with the occasional Hollywood Blockbuster. 01 Suz Bandit 1200 > -----Original Message----- > From: John Luc [mailto:Harold269@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:58 AM > To: DC-Cycles > Subject: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > > > Sorry, and I hope I don't offend anyone, but I am looking for a female > riding companion. Going through a divorce - I promised myself the next > woman in my life WOULD understand the addictive nature of motorcycling. > > So if you're a beautiful :) (single) motorcycle riding woman, who > happens to > like homely black motorcycle riding guys (smile) - I am up for adoption > (smile). Just send me a wink. Thanks>>>Jean-Luc From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 08:37:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DCbX616557 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:37:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15027 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f284.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.159]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA17079 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:37:25 -0700 Received: from 166.32.192.143 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:37:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [166.32.192.143] From: "Rob Keiser" To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:37:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 12:37:25.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7D8E290:01C13C50] I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty helpless just watching the news. But, with all of the activity still going on downtown and with the street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to the congestion. Perhaps we all could join the Ride for Kids Sunday and partake in their remembrance of all the victims of Tuesday's tragedies while at the same time helping a great cause. Just a thought. Does anyone know where the ride from Columbia ends? Also, where is a good place to get some flags to mount to the bike? Thanks. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Rob Curtis" Reply-To: To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:00 -0400 How many folks would show up for a group ride through DC and past the Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? Say one evening this week? If there are enough of us, it would be a tremendous show of support and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our bikes or have passengers carry them. How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the Sears side of the Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at 6:30, Flags ready. If folks need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme Know. I would suggest that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten the impact of our gesture. Rob Curtis Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ Never be afraid to try something new; remember, amateurs built the Ark, and professionals built the Titanic. __________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 08:45:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11207.mail.yahoo.com (web11207.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.189]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DCjC616722 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913124511.76326.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web11207.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:45:11 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? To: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You can probably find a flag at any Sunny Surplus or others such as Kmart or Target. Just to let everyone know, some listers are planning to meet at the gas station (Mobil?) across the street from the Columbia Mall on Patuxent Rd. at 8:30. So far, as I understand, we have 5 or 6 riders meeting there. If you would like to join us, come on out!!! Matt Black GS500e --- Rob Keiser wrote: > I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty > helpless just watching the > news. But, with all of the activity still going on > downtown and with the > street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to > the congestion. > > Perhaps we all could join the Ride for Kids Sunday > and partake in their > remembrance of all the victims of Tuesday's > tragedies while at the same time > helping a great cause. Just a thought. > > Does anyone know where the ride from Columbia ends? > Also, where is a good > place to get some flags to mount to the bike? > > Thanks. > > Rob > '98 VFR800 > > > > From: "Rob Curtis" > Reply-To: > To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" > Subject: Pentagon Flag Ride? > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:00 -0400 > > How many folks would show up for a group ride > through DC and past the > Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? > Say one evening this > week? If there are enough of us, it would be a > tremendous show of support > and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. > We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our > bikes or have > passengers carry them. > How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the > Sears side of the > Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at > 6:30, Flags ready. If folks > need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme > Know. I would suggest > that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten > the impact of our > gesture. > > Rob Curtis > Staff Photographer > Army Times Publishing Co. > Springfield, VA > > http://www.robcurtis.com > __________________ > Never be afraid to try something new; > remember, amateurs built the Ark, and > professionals built the Titanic. > __________________ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 08:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DCxO616934 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15095 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from eos.dns-solutions.net (eos.dns-solutions.net [209.66.124.18]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA17505 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 949 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2001 12:59:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO R1100S) (209.124.21.254) by illuminedesigns.com - 209.124.21.254 with SMTP; 13 Sep 2001 12:59:21 -0000 From: "Wesleyan Hsu" To: Subject: RE: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:58:53 -0400 Message-ID: <000701c13c53$e70a2b40$3745080a@R1100S> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal I'd have to agree with Rob regarding the congestion and chaos happening down there. A coworker of mine is a volunteer firefighter and he has been working down at the Pentagon for the past 2 days. It's not pretty. As far as the Ride for Kids...I was already planning on participating (my donor list is slowly growing) so I am happy that the event is still on with a special remembrance for this tragedy. I hope you all will join me on Sunday for this worthy cause. I would love to carry a flag on this ride. If anyone knows where I can find a moderate sized flag as well as suggestions on how I can mount it, please contact me. Wes Hsu R1100S > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Keiser [mailto:robkeiser@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:37 AM > To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? > > > I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty helpless just > watching the > news. But, with all of the activity still going on downtown > and with the > street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to the congestion. > > Perhaps we all could join the Ride for Kids Sunday and > partake in their > remembrance of all the victims of Tuesday's tragedies while > at the same time > helping a great cause. Just a thought. > > Does anyone know where the ride from Columbia ends? Also, > where is a good > place to get some flags to mount to the bike? From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 09:12:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9703.mail.yahoo.com (web9703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.139]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DDCS617178 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913131228.61721.qmail@web9703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.42] by web9703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:12:28 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:12:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: flag mounting To: DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I believe I saw really cool flags and mounting hardware at Winchester Motosports. Drag Specialties brand, I think. Seems like most HD shops would have them. HTH, Rich __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 09:16:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f154.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.154]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DDG8617299 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:16:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:04:13 -0700 Received: from 204.71.174.14 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:04:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.71.174.14] From: "Perry Coleman" To: jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:04:13 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 13:04:13.0442 (UTC) FILETIME=[95FD7620:01C13C54] Jon/Jean: A thought... Make sure that your bike (and riding style) are setup to accomodate a passenger. If you want to create/maintain a mutual riding arrangement, you must make the passenger comfortable. My wife (of almost 14 years) had never been on a motorcycle before we met. Our first date was a ride on my bike and dinner at Pizza Hut. I took her on a moderately fast ride through the more rural areas of Anne Arundel county, but did not get too radical. She loved the ride, but didn't feel too comfortable on the pillion of my KZ1100. I went out and found a backrest that would fit. Unfortunately, from an appearance perspective, the only one I could find that would work with my model included a luggage rack. I didn't particularly care for the look, but she loved the support. The luggage rack did prove it's worth, however, as we could carry gear on it, as well as in my tank bag when we did longer rides. Eventually, she decided she wanted to see the view from the front seat, so she took the MSF course and got her own bike. She's been riding for about 8-9 years now. Now, we do lots of day trips and a couple of weekend trips every year. We just did a trip to Youngstown, OH over the Labor Day weekend. She rode the ZX-6 and I rode the Concours. So, if you want to have a partner to ride with you, make sure that you don't screw up the early impression with too aggressive of a ride, and be prepared to modify (or change) your bike to increase their comfort and confidence. Perry >From: "Jon Strang" >To: "DC-Cycles" >Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:30:23 -0400 > >heh. I always wondered where a guy could find a single m/c riding woman. >They're rare and very desirable, so every one I've met already had a S.O. > >I can't decide whether to applaud Jean Luc's initiative or pity him. The >"D" is not fun. > >Jean, if this works, let me know. If my current (non-moto) gf doesn't work >out, maybe I'll try this route ;-) > >--jon >34yo, SWPM, 6', athletic build, br hair, haz eyes; >Enjoys bikes (pedal and motor), cooking (I have an herb garden), red wine, >music from Kennedy Center to Wolf Trap to 9:30 Club, >watch indie and foreign films along with the occasional Hollywood >Blockbuster. >01 Suz Bandit 1200 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Luc [mailto:Harold269@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:58 AM > > To: DC-Cycles > > Subject: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > > > > > > Sorry, and I hope I don't offend anyone, but I am looking for a female > > riding companion. Going through a divorce - I promised myself the next > > woman in my life WOULD understand the addictive nature of motorcycling. > > > > So if you're a beautiful :) (single) motorcycle riding woman, who > > happens to > > like homely black motorcycle riding guys (smile) - I am up for adoption > > (smile). Just send me a wink. Thanks>>>Jean-Luc > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 09:16:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.5]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DDGF617301 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp.ddlomni.com from localhost (router,SLMail V5.0); Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:16:43 -0400 for Received: from jstrang [204.245.128.170] by smtp.ddlomni.com [204.245.128.5] (SLmail 5.0.0.4342) with SMTP id 35CADEDDA7F711D58E1E006008C770E5 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:16:42 -0400 From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:15:14 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-SLUIDL: D5BFDB85-A77F11D5-8E1E0060-08C770E5 Perry, I was being facetious. I'm not looking and am not considering looking. --jon p.s. Besides, anyone can find some fender fluff. I'd want a woman who rides her own bike. > -----Original Message----- > From: Perry Coleman [mailto:perrycoleman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:04 AM > To: jmstrang@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > > > Jon/Jean: > > A thought... > > Make sure that your bike (and riding style) are setup to accomodate a > passenger. If you want to create/maintain a mutual riding > arrangement, you > must make the passenger comfortable. > > My wife (of almost 14 years) had never been on a motorcycle > before we met. > Our first date was a ride on my bike and dinner at Pizza Hut. I > took her on > a moderately fast ride through the more rural areas of Anne > Arundel county, > but did not get too radical. She loved the ride, but didn't feel too > comfortable on the pillion of my KZ1100. I went out and found a backrest > that would fit. Unfortunately, from an appearance perspective, > the only one > I could find that would work with my model included a luggage > rack. I didn't > particularly care for the look, but she loved the support. The > luggage rack > did prove it's worth, however, as we could carry gear on it, as > well as in > my tank bag when we did longer rides. Eventually, she decided she > wanted to > see the view from the front seat, so she took the MSF course and > got her own > bike. She's been riding for about 8-9 years now. Now, we do lots of day > trips and a couple of weekend trips every year. We just did a trip to > Youngstown, OH over the Labor Day weekend. She rode the ZX-6 and > I rode the > Concours. > > So, if you want to have a partner to ride with you, make sure > that you don't > screw up the early impression with too aggressive of a ride, and > be prepared > to modify (or change) your bike to increase their comfort and confidence. > > Perry > > >From: "Jon Strang" > >To: "DC-Cycles" > >Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:30:23 -0400 > > > >heh. I always wondered where a guy could find a single m/c riding woman. > >They're rare and very desirable, so every one I've met already had a S.O. > > > >I can't decide whether to applaud Jean Luc's initiative or pity him. The > >"D" is not fun. > > > >Jean, if this works, let me know. If my current (non-moto) gf > doesn't work > >out, maybe I'll try this route ;-) > > > >--jon > >34yo, SWPM, 6', athletic build, br hair, haz eyes; > >Enjoys bikes (pedal and motor), cooking (I have an herb garden), > red wine, > >music from Kennedy Center to Wolf Trap to 9:30 Club, > >watch indie and foreign films along with the occasional Hollywood > >Blockbuster. > >01 Suz Bandit 1200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John Luc [mailto:Harold269@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:58 AM > > > To: DC-Cycles > > > Subject: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > > > > > > > > > Sorry, and I hope I don't offend anyone, but I am looking for a female > > > riding companion. Going through a divorce - I promised > myself the next > > > woman in my life WOULD understand the addictive nature of > motorcycling. > > > > > > So if you're a beautiful :) (single) motorcycle riding woman, who > > > happens to > > > like homely black motorcycle riding guys (smile) - I am up > for adoption > > > (smile). Just send me a wink. Thanks>>>Jean-Luc > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 09:19:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f138.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.138]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DDJd617329 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:19:32 -0700 Received: from 166.32.192.143 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:19:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [166.32.192.143] From: "Rob Keiser" To: m_rosenstock@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:19:32 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 13:19:32.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9DDCF20:01C13C56] Sounds great, Matt. I'll see you there! Rob '98 VFR800 (about to be flagged) Another use for the Wingrack. From: Matthew Rosenstock To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) You can probably find a flag at any Sunny Surplus or others such as Kmart or Target. Just to let everyone know, some listers are planning to meet at the gas station (Mobil?) across the street from the Columbia Mall on Patuxent Rd. at 8:30. So far, as I understand, we have 5 or 6 riders meeting there. If you would like to join us, come on out!!! Matt Black GS500e --- Rob Keiser wrote: > I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty > helpless just watching the > news. But, with all of the activity still going on > downtown and with the > street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to > the congestion. > > Perhaps we all could join the Ride for Kids Sunday > and partake in their > remembrance of all the victims of Tuesday's > tragedies while at the same time > helping a great cause. Just a thought. > > Does anyone know where the ride from Columbia ends? > Also, where is a good > place to get some flags to mount to the bike? > > Thanks. > > Rob > '98 VFR800 > > > > From: "Rob Curtis" > Reply-To: > To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" > Subject: Pentagon Flag Ride? > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:00 -0400 > > How many folks would show up for a group ride > through DC and past the > Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? > Say one evening this > week? If there are enough of us, it would be a > tremendous show of support > and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. > We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our > bikes or have > passengers carry them. > How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the > Sears side of the > Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at > 6:30, Flags ready. If folks > need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme > Know. I would suggest > that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten > the impact of our > gesture. > > Rob Curtis > Staff Photographer > Army Times Publishing Co. > Springfield, VA > > http://www.robcurtis.com > __________________ > Never be afraid to try something new; > remember, amateurs built the Ark, and > professionals built the Titanic. > __________________ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 09:22:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DDMH617458 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:22:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA15202 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:22:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX Received: from mx-relay1.treas.gov (mx-relay1.treas.gov [199.196.144.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18146 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tias4.treas.gov (tias-gw4.treas.gov [199.196.144.14]) by mx-relay1.treas.gov (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA19533 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:22:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.7.14.10] by tias4.treas.gov via smtpd (for mx-relay.treas.gov [199.196.144.5]) with SMTP; 13 Sep 2001 13:22:14 UT Received: from fw2.do.treas.gov. (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailhub-1.net.treas.gov (8.9.2/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA28825 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.20.75.25] by fw2.do.treas.gov. via smtpd (for [10.7.14.10]) with SMTP; 13 Sep 2001 13:22:13 UT Received: from msbr02.do.treas.gov ([10.75.192.146]) by do.treas.gov (PMDF V6.0-24 #36958) with ESMTP id <01K8A7FR1R1890MV73@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:20:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by msbr02.do.treas.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:18:24 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:18:21 -0400 Subject: RE: Pentagon Flag Ride? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I tend to agree that the Ride for Kids will have a nice memorial, I think that something in this area could still be done. I remember hearing of a ride around the beltway in cages in memorial to Dale Earnhart (sp?). I am all in favor of doing something around DC, whether inside/through the city or around on the beltway, also it may not be a bad idea to alert other lists of our plans (once finalized) to make this event as big as possible. If the idea catches on the way i think it will, we may even have to alert police and other authorities so we don't cause any inconveniences for them. My suggestion for when to do this is either Saturday (to avoid traffic) or on Monday giving people a chance to adjust their schedules. From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 09:26:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11003.mail.yahoo.com (web11003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DDQ2617488 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913132601.27624.qmail@web11003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.160.3.131] by web11003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:26:01 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:26:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Flags Across America To: cycles2 , DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This came accross the work email. And is being passed around very quickly. I will not make the ride tonight but I will shop for a flag to mount for tommorrow. I think everyone who rides to work should put a flag on Friday. Trey ---------- To show these terrorists that the people of the United States stick together, Friday September 14th, is going to be designated as "Flags Across America." All Americans are asked to display the American flag either in their homes, cars, on their bodies, at work or whatever. Let's keep the meaning of UNITED in "United States". Pass this onto as many people as you know. THANK YOU. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 09:50:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DDoG617990 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:48:48 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B79500902762698621045E@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: 9/11 victims memorial service Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:48:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hello all--- i don't have a date posted yet but it seems that DCGovernment, Federal Government and the military are attempting to coordinate a memorial service for the victims of the terrorist attacks. i'm under the impression that it will not be until the end of the month or the first week of october (it will probably actually be some time later) and that it will involve a funeral procession of some sort from the capitol to arlington cemetary. details spotty right now. i'll be going on my bike. i will pass details as i get them but i think it would be trememdous if we could get just about every bike in the DC area there... sort of rolling thunder style but definitely more somber. -patti From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 09:59:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DDxa618121 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA15499 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:59:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19252 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:59:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:59:33 -0400 Message-Id: <200109130959.AA210698744@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Rob Keiser" >I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty helpless just watching the >news. But, with all of the activity still going on downtown and with the >street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to the congestion. Good point. I feel much the same. What I've done: 1. Fly our flag at our house, all day and all night (illuminated at night, of course). 2. Gone to church and prayed. 3. Donated money to Red Cross (I can't donate blood) 4. Spend time with my family. 5. Get back to work, and show those ******** what we're made of. God Bless America Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 10:14:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DEEF618428 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15588 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f89.hotmail.com [216.32.181.89]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19737 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:14:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:14:03 -0700 Received: from 63.21.243.198 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:14:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.21.243.198] From: "Kenneth Shephard" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:14:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 14:14:03.0114 (UTC) FILETIME=[573AACA0:01C13C5E] I've been too busy to follow this whole thread, Are their plans for a flag ride in the weeks/weekends ahead? I think its a great idea, once the recovery efforts have concluded. Thanks,,, Ken S........ Ride Safe and Forever Free Inwood WV _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 10:47:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DElw619106 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:47:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15779 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from aba.com (mail.aba.com [198.242.42.47]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21018 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ABAOF40-MTA by aba.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:47:35 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:47:24 -0400 From: "Robert Beatty" To: Subject: Nothing more need be said. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:25:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Crabtree To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Prediction Reply-To: Dustin@XXXXXX X-Originating-Ip: [66.44.69.84] Message-Id: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> I found this online... Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous astrologer, thinker... In the city of God there will be a great thunder, two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb. "The third big war will begin when the big city is burning." On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal birds would crash into two tall statues in the New City, and the world will end soon after. Nostradamus 1654' _____________________________________________________________ Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest rocketry-oriented Internet information. "Your global rocketry resource..." From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 11:32:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11204.mail.yahoo.com (web11204.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.186]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DFWL620009 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913152123.64462.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web11204.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:21:23 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:21:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: New Muffler To: SOC USA , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How difficult is it to install a new muffler if I'm a decent garage mechanic? Is it worth doing myself? Matt GS500e __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 11:35:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9607.mail.yahoo.com (web9607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.186]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DFZG620096 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913153359.23077.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:33:59 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:33:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Prediction To: Dustin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is a hoax and has been refuted all across the internet. Beware what you read on the 'net. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Dustin Crabtree wrote: > I found this online... > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous > astrologer, thinker... > > > In the city of God there will be a great thunder, > two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress > endures, the great leader will succumb. "The third > big war will begin when the big city is burning." > On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal > birds would crash into two tall statues in the New > City, and the world will end soon after. > > Nostradamus 1654' > > _____________________________________________________________ > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > "Your global rocketry resource..." __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 11:44:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web12202.mail.yahoo.com (web12202.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DFi5620266 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913154332.63293.qmail@web12202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.77.20.197] by web12202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:43:32 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:43:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Corbett B Subject: Re: Prediction To: Jeannette , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20010913153359.23077.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Agreed...I've seen numerous versions and one of the original translations.... Most of these "predictions" are so vague that they could mean ANYTHING. This particular version is a rediculously altred interpretation. -Corbett --- Jeannette wrote: > This is a hoax and has been refuted all across the > internet. > Beware what you read on the 'net. > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > --- Dustin Crabtree > wrote: > > I found this online... > > > > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous > > astrologer, thinker... > > > > > > In the city of God there will be a great > thunder, > > two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the > fortress > > endures, the great leader will succumb. "The > third > > big war will begin when the big city is burning." > > On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal > > birds would crash into two tall statues in the New > > City, and the world will end soon after. > > > > Nostradamus 1654' > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > > > "Your global rocketry resource..." > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ===== -Corbett '99 BMW K1200RS AMA Member BMW Motorcycle Owners Association Member __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 11:57:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DFvm620534 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:57:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVapgV20jFHA1fEpd+kt02QSMJPk9X5XFNXB+vG/MPdOsMtHpRus+cMa Received: from [63.123.104.125] (helo=ducman) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15hYrV-0000Z7-00; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:57:09 -0400 Message-ID: <00dd01c13c6c$bc6a1d50$7d687b3f@ducman> From: "Genna Melamed" To: Subject: Fw: U.S. CRISIS- YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED! Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:57:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I got this message from a friend in Brazil.....and forwarding to everyone in my contact list It's very comforting to see that people care Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Usuario Universo Online" To: "CM-mcero Pestana" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: U.S. CRISIS- YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED! > > > > WE CAN HELP! > > > > PLEASE READ: As networkers we all know the power of "word-of-mouth" and > the power of the internet. We can use this power to help stop terrorism > dead in it's tracks and bring the responsible parties to justice NOW! We > can also use this power to gather the resources (money, blood, food, > support) that are needed to aid the victims and their families. Fact is, > that everyone knows someone that could help. Fact is, that someone out > there knows some important information that could help authorities solve > these crimes and prevent further crimes. Even if you feel that you > personally can not help... you know people that know people. Take action > now. Let's show the world the power of networking!!! > > > > PLAN OF ACTION: 1. Forward this email out to your entire contact list. > (Please use the "bcc" section of Outlook as to not compromise your email > list....go to "view" and then check "all headers" in your email program) 2. > Urge all of them to take immediate similar action. 3. Read all of the > following information and determine how you can personally help. 4. Act > on it immediately! > > > > Good can and will overcome evil if we are each pro-active! > > > > I know that this simple action can and will make a difference. I'd like > to thank you all in advance for taking action, and showing the world that > each and every one of us can and will make a difference! Together we > STAND!!! > > > > Sincerely, > > Mark Ewing > > > > Emergency Contact Information: > > > > FBI Tip Website: > > - http://www.ifccfbi.gov > > > > American Red Cross, cash donations: > > - (800) HELP-NOW > > > > > > Army Personnel: > > - Army personnel assigned to the Pentagon asked to call 800-984-8523. > > > > > > Airlines: > > - Friends and family who wish to check on passengers and flights may > call: > > American Airlines, 1-800-245-0999. > > United Airlines, 1-800-932-8555. > > > > > > World Trade Center businesses: > > - Emergency number for Morgan Stanley: 1-888-883-4391. > > - Emergency number for Carr Futures: 1-800-755-7620. > > - Emergency number for Cantor Fitzgerald: 1-866-326-3188. > > Pentagon personnel: > > - Pentagon employees only are asked to check in by calling 1-877-663-6772. > > > > > > Justice Department > > - The Justice Department's Office of Victims of Crime has set up a phone > line to provide information to families about victims and about services for > survivors and their rights: 1-800-331-0075. > > > > > > Emergency response/relief Efforts: > > - The American Red Cross is in need of blood to replenish the nation's > supply. Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE to schedule an appointment near where you live. > > - The New York Blood Center has also announced a blood emergency for the > greater New York/New Jersey metropolitan area. Visit www.nybloodcenter.org > for more information on how to help. > > - For more information on helping victims of the U.S. attacks, visit > Helping.org > > - The United Way of New York and the New York Community Trust have > established a fund to help the victims of the attacks and their families. > The September Eleventh Fund will provide immediate support to established > emergency assistance agencies. Anyone wishing to contribute may send their > donations in care of United Way, 2 Park Ave, New York, New York, 10016 or > call: 212-251-4035. > > > > > > Donations are also being accepted on United Way of New York City's Web > site: http://www.uwnyc.org . > > - Donations are being accepted at Feed The Children. > > - Japanese language assistance for relatives is available at jhelp.com or > 1-800-527-2611. > > Salvation Army, cash donations: > > - (800) SAL-ARMY > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 12:01:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11206.mail.yahoo.com (web11206.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.188]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DG1T620628 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913154521.271.qmail@web11206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web11206.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:45:21 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:45:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: Prediction To: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20010913153359.23077.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Amen- this is the fourth or fifth variation I've seen. Don't people have better things to do in their lives? --- Jeannette wrote: > This is a hoax and has been refuted all across the > internet. > Beware what you read on the 'net. > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > --- Dustin Crabtree > wrote: > > I found this online... > > > > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous > > astrologer, thinker... > > > > > > In the city of God there will be a great > thunder, > > two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the > fortress > > endures, the great leader will succumb. "The > third > > big war will begin when the big city is burning." > > On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal > > birds would crash into two tall statues in the New > > City, and the world will end soon after. > > > > Nostradamus 1654' > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > > > "Your global rocketry resource..." > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 12:10:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe13.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.117]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DGAU620773 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:58:56 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [134.113.230.75] From: "Paul Hutchins" To: Cc: "DC Cycles" References: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> Subject: Re: Prediction Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:58:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 15:58:56.0972 (UTC) FILETIME=[FEA930C0:01C13C6C] Dustin, This "prophecy" has been kicked around for more than two days. It's total crap. Every hour it morphs - the early versions did not have the "11th. day of the 9th. month" in them. Nostradamus died ~ 100 years before this prophecy. Again, total crap. Stop sending it around. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dustin Crabtree" To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: Prediction > I found this online... > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous astrologer, thinker... > > > In the city of God there will be a great thunder, two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb. "The third big war will begin when the big city is burning." On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal birds would crash into two tall statues in the New City, and the world will end soon after. > > Nostradamus 1654' > > _____________________________________________________________ > Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > "Your global rocketry resource..." > From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 12:10:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lmimailg.lmi.org ([198.3.128.185]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DGAq620783 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmimailg.lmi.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:10:30 -0400 Message-ID: <69FF9744D75D8E44BB30C01515D2D5DD6E78B0@lmimaila.lmi.org> From: "ROBERSON, Brian" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Check your facts before you post Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:10:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C13C6E.9B6AEE70" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13C6E.9B6AEE70 Content-Type: text/plain Check out: http://www.urbanlegends.com/ This should go far to dispell a lot of crap that goes around. Brian ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13C6E.9B6AEE70 Content-Type: text/html Check your facts before you post

Check out: http://www.urbanlegends.com/

This should go far to dispell a lot of crap that goes around.

Brian

------_=_NextPart_001_01C13C6E.9B6AEE70-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 12:20:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from worldbank.org (wbln0014.worldbank.org [138.220.29.7]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DGK8621046 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WBLN0014.worldbank.org (unverified) by worldbank.org (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:23:36 -0400 Subject: Fundraiser RIDE! X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:22:11 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 09/13/2001 11:23:36 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bcc: James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX ----- Forwarded by James Itabashi/Person/World Bank on 09/13/2001 11:20 AM ----- "David Greene" , "Tom Gilmore" , ogies.net> "Skip Meszaros" , "Robert Mcclung" , "Patrick Chapman" , "Pam Toczylowski" , "Nancy Beams" 09/13/2001 11:04 AM , "Monty Ruckman" , "Mark Railey" Please respond to , "Mark D. Walker" , "Laura Aitken" dgreene , "Kris Mcdonough" , "Kenneth Stuckey" , "John Heinzelmann" , "Joe Boggs" , "Jimmy Itabashi" , "Jim Petreas" , "Jeff Boogaard" , "Jeb Boone" , "James Vitalos" , "Irving Greenberg" , "Hans Mumm" , "Ginger Mathenia" , "Felix Dowuona" , "Fawn Garrett" , "Edward Snyder" , "Edward Lewis Woodings" , "E. Tracy Lewis" , "Dennis Cail" , "Dawn Thomas" , "David Haskell" , "Dave Hall" , "Danny Vasquez" , "Dan Sturdivant" , "Bill Snider" , "Bill Leahy" cc: Subject: Fundraiser RIDE! Good morning to all and I hope all are well! Over the past 2 days I have been talking with several riders alike regarding a fund raiser ride to support those families immediately effected by the recent tragedies. I had a conversation with NOD from Rockville HD and he is willing to assist me in getting the word out. I will be speaking with Bernie Keller and the rest of the boys at Rockville HD this afternoon about speaking to all the other shops in the area. If we can get enough people (which I truly believe won't be a problem) I will set up a fund through my firm and accountant for the donations. If you are interested please email a reply and I will keep you posted on the development. Please pass the word along to EVERYONE no matter what state they live in. Thank you for your support and my best wishes and prayers go out to EVERYONE! Thanks & God Bless, David Greene Eureka Technologies, LLC 301-258-8823-office 301-258-8902-fax dgreene@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 12:22:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13803.mail.yahoo.com (web13803.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.13]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DGMr621066 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913154008.2692.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13803.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:40:08 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Prediction To: Dustin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Please stop spreading that shit. What is the need for such pointless rumors. Do you have any proof that he really wrote that, or are you just blindly spreading it hundreds of people you don't know? --- Dustin Crabtree wrote: > I found this online... > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous > astrologer, thinker... > > > In the city of God there will be a great thunder, > two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress > endures, the great leader will succumb. "The third > big war will begin when the big city is burning." > On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal > birds would crash into two tall statues in the New > City, and the world will end soon after. > > Nostradamus 1654' > > _____________________________________________________________ > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > "Your global rocketry resource..." ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 12:35:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DGZ4621414 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:35:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaS9AvQqRpqgYeU23XKYxhI+q/t1l74uo+laKFtXF1pHQZkSbwfMpSXqtdfTCWfs/0= Received: from 24-163-104-245.sp.cox.rr.com ([24.163.104.245] helo=psuhell.mad.scientist.com) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15hZS7-0003uj-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:34:59 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010913123351.00c3f110@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: ltrainpsu@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:34:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Subject: Re: Prediction In-Reply-To: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yes, this has been floating around the internet. Maybe someone should mention nostradamus died in the 1500's. At 08:25 AM 09/13/2001 -0700, you wrote: >I found this online... > > >Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous astrologer, thinker... > > > In the city of God there will be a great thunder, two brothers torn > apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will > succumb. "The third big war will begin when the big city is > burning." On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal birds would > crash into two tall statues in the New City, and the world will end soon after. > >Nostradamus 1654' > >_____________________________________________________________ >Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest >rocketry-oriented Internet information. > >"Your global rocketry resource..." From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 12:46:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from azog.public.hq.nasa.gov (azog.public.hq.nasa.gov [198.116.65.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DGjg621668 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:46:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from woc-rwintersw2k.annapurna.com ([131.182.119.81]) by azog.public.hq.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25660 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010913122737.03020798@mail.nova.org> X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:45:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: Prediction In-Reply-To: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:25 AM 9/13/2001 -0700, Dustin Crabtree wrote: >On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal birds would crash into >two tall statues in the New City, "And on the eleventh day of the ninth month, two metal birds will depart the town of beans bound for the city of angels, but will instead crash into two great towers in the New City, oh around nine'ish, I should think..." >and the world will end soon after. Since it's all over anyway, can I have your motorcycle? People certainly seem to have a tremendous need to believe that someone has or had all the answers. I know that the terrorists knew they had it all figured out, or they couldn't have done this. There ain't no answer. There ain't going to be any answer. There never has been an answer. That's the answer. --Gertrude Stein /// Rob (amused, depressed, angry, all at once) From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 12:51:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([63.218.228.98]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DGpY621797 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture.wheatintl.com [209.249.185.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8DGpPp00429 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:51:27 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010913124402.0265cec0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:49:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Prediction In-Reply-To: References: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:58 AM 9/13/01, Paul Hutchins wrote: >Again, total crap. Stop sending it around. On this Nostradomaus thing - I used to have a video of an old Orson Wells / HBO special on his predictions. I recently tossed the tape. Near the end was a section on WW3, etc, and I do recall a quatraine that was similar in nature to the one being passed around. Yes - these things can be altered to say a lot of stuff, but it can be interesting just the same. Also - stop mailing out the flag and candle vigils. I am getting 5-6 copies an hour now. Oh - and the "Canadian Newspaper Editorial" was a speech given in 1973 by a man that died in 1984. Well intentioned mass mailings can be just as bad as spam. I will be rafting the Gauley this weekend and unable to go on any formal rides in support of the victims. I do hope many people show. Not sure how it would act as a fundraiser on such short notice, but any money raised will be used. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "I keep it in a quart jar in my desk." --Sen. Phil Gramm when asked if he had a heart. From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 13:02:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([63.218.228.98]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DH0l622031 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture.wheatintl.com [209.249.185.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8DH0Hp00464 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:00:18 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010913125817.0265bb30@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:00:09 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Prediction In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010913122737.03020798@mail.nova.org> References: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:45 PM 9/13/01, Rob Winters wrote: >There ain't no answer. >There ain't going to be any answer. >There never has been an answer. >That's the answer. >--Gertrude Stein In high school my 12th grade English teacher had us carry around a picture of Stein all year. She would do random checks. If we still had it at the end of the year, she gave us extra credit. She said that 'anyone that can carry around a picture of a woman that was very talented, and most likely one of the ugliest women alive, deserved extra credit.' Bizarre, but I never forgot it. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "I keep it in a quart jar in my desk." --Sen. Phil Gramm when asked if he had a heart. From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 13:22:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DHMg622440 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:22:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:21:13 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B795009027626986210461@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FW: Candlelighting in US 7pm Friday Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:21:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" -----Original Message----- From: CHARMELLE.SKIPPINGS@XXXXXX [mailto:CHARMELLE.SKIPPINGS@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:48 PM To: (email addresses deleted) Candle Lighting-Please participate Friday Night at 7:00 p.m. step out your door, stop your car, or step out of your establishment and light a candle. We will show the world that Americans are strong and united together against terrorism. Please pass this to everyone on your e-mail list. We need to reach everyone across the United States quickly. The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE TERRORISM. We need press to cover this-- we need the world to see. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 13:36:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DHaf622772 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:36:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-47-111.s365.tnt4.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.47.111]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15haPh-0007OH-00; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:36:34 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Larry , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Prediction Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:37:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> <4.3.2.7.2.20010913123351.00c3f110@pop.erols.com> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010913123351.00c3f110@pop.erols.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8DHao622773 On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:34:35 -0400, you wrote: |> Yes, this has been floating around the internet. Maybe |>someone should mention nostradamus died in the 1500's. |> that is soo funny morons make up the lie, and go ahead and time stamp it, but dont' bother to check his life span and just make up a year to when it is attributed to him. hilarious! rotfl From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 13:47:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DHlh623078 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA17080 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA27966 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.36]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GJM00938419T2@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:46:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp01.wcomnet.com by pmismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GJM00201418RW@XXXXXX>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:46:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GJM000JL40N7R@XXXXXX>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:45:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:45:12 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Nothing more need be said. To: Robert Beatty Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3BA0F0A8.C257CC26@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Accept-Language: en References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8DHmX623079 Robert Beatty wrote: > > Name: september11.jpg > september11.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 Eagles don't cry. Horkster -- Mandatory second line (Chatty Moron M-^Y) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 81 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 14:16:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11203.mail.yahoo.com (web11203.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.185]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DIGj623686 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913181644.11348.qmail@web11203.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web11203.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:16:44 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:16:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Motoport Canyon II To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks- I've been looking at purchasing a Motoport Canyon II jacket over the winter. Every place I see has it for $269. I looked at MAW and Dennis Kirk but neither carry it. The plaes that do carry it, all have the same price. I like this jacket due to it's all season versatility and pocket space. Is there another that's close in style and functionality, but cheaper? Any suggestions? __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 14:39:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web12202.mail.yahoo.com (web12202.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DIdW624041 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913183928.98036.qmail@web12202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.77.20.170] by web12202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:39:28 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:39:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Corbett B Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? To: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I wouldn't mind participating, but I feel your efforts might be a little premature and add to the current congestion and confusion around the Pentagon. If you wanted a large show of support, it would probably take another week to get it organized. Best Wishes, whatever you decide to do. -Corbett --- Rob Curtis wrote: > How many folks would show up for a group ride > through DC and past the > Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? > Say one evening this > week? If there are enough of us, it would be a > tremendous show of support > and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. > We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our > bikes or have > passengers carry them. > How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the > Sears side of the > Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at > 6:30, Flags ready. If folks > need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme > Know. I would suggest > that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten > the impact of our > gesture. > > Rob Curtis > Staff Photographer > Army Times Publishing Co. > Springfield, VA > > http://www.robcurtis.com > __________________ > Never be afraid to try something new; > remember, amateurs built the Ark, and > professionals built the Titanic. > __________________ > > ===== -Corbett '99 BMW K1200RS AMA Member BMW Motorcycle Owners Association Member __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 16:06:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DK6i625517 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:05:07 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B795009027626986210465@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: new york firefighters memorial fund Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:05:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" hi everyone--- please send this link to all of your friends/coworkers. if you follow the link you can donate online to the new york firefighters memorial fund. we should support our rescuers at a time like this. http://www.firedonations.com/ regards, patti From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 16:11:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DKBM625547 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA18134 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp6vepub.verizon.net (smtp6vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.27]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA03989 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net (pool-151-200-19-35.res.east.verizon.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp6vepub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id PAA71157933 Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:11:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010913160859.00af2920@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:11:33 -0400 To: "Robert Beatty" , From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Nothing more need be said. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:47 AM 9/13/01, Robert Beatty wrote: > Nothing more need be said. > > sept11.jpg I don't know about anyone else, but the tear's not enough for me -- I want to see that eagle with talons extended, striking. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 16:39:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13804.mail.yahoo.com (web13804.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.14]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8DKd5626048 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:39:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010913201323.3221.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:13:23 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:13:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: new york firefighters memorial fund To: lantech , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" In-Reply-To: <2344588A203AD311B795009027626986210465@CWDEXCH0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii DO you know this is legit? There are many fake sites out there. --- lantech wrote: > hi everyone--- > > please send this link to all of your > friends/coworkers. if you follow the > link you can donate online to the new york > firefighters memorial fund. we > should support our rescuers at a time like this. > > http://www.firedonations.com/ > > > regards, > > patti ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 16:46:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DKkR626230 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-121-125.s633.tnt11.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.121.125] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15hdNL-0006Xm-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:46:20 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c13c95$38186100$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: List of memorial services in the area Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:46:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 >From the Post web site. Memorial services for victims of the terrorist attacks include: Thursday, Sept. 13 District . National City Christian Church, 5 Thomas Circle, 6 p.m. 202-232-0323 . Union Temple Baptist Church, 1225 W St. SE, 7 p.m. 202-678-8822 . Nineteenth Street Baptist Church, 4606 16th St. NW, 7:30 p.m. 202-829-2773 Maryland . Potomac Village Shopping Center, interfaith vigil, 6:30 p.m. Virginia . Fairfax County Government Center, interfaith service, 6:30 p.m. . Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk to hold a memorial service for the victims of the terrorist attacks. 5 p.m. Lewis Hall, main auditorium. . Temple Rodef Shalom, 2100 Westmoreland St., Falls Church, 7:30 p.m. 703-532-2217 Friday, Sept. 14 District . National City Christian Church, 5 Thomas Circle NW, noon. 202-232-0323 . Israel Metropolitan CME Church, 557 Randolph St. NW, 7 to 8:30 p.m. 301-838-7428 . Christ Church of Georgetown, 31st and O Streets NW, noon. 202-333-6677 . Metropolitan Memorial United Methodist Church, 3401 Nebraska Ave. NW, 7 p.m. 202-363-4900 . Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, 400 Michigan Ave. NE, noon. 202-526-8300 . Riverside Baptist Church and Word of God Faith Assembly Church, 680 I St. SW, 7 p.m. 202-554-4331 Maryland . War Memorial Plaza, 101 North Gay St., Baltimore, noon. Rev. Karen Brau, 410-276-5674 . Rockville Christina Church, 301 Adclaire Rd., Rockville, 12:15 to 12:45 p.m. 301-762-7744 Virginia . Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church, Military Road and Lorcom Lane, Arlington, noon. 703-522-1600 . Bull Run Unitarian Universalists Congregation, 9350 Main St., Manassas, 7:30 p.m. 703-361-6269 or 703-368-8076 Saturday, Sept. 15 Maryland . New Life Seventh-Day Adventist Church, 7412 Muncaster Mill Rd., Gaithersburg, 11 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. 301-854-0278 Sunday, Sept. 16 District . Washington National Cathedral, 3001 Wisconsin Ave. NW, 11 a.m. 202-537-6200 . Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, 1400 Michigan Ave. NE, 12 noon to 1 p.m. 202-526-8300 . Washington Ethical Society, 7750 16th St. NW, 11 a.m. 202-882-6650 Virginia . Cathedral of St. More, 3901 Cathedral Ln., Arlington (corner of N. Glebe Rd. and Rte. 50), 9:30 a.m. 703-606-5617 Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 16:49:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8DKni626264 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SKeener2@XXXXXX by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 2.154.e9cdf3 (4240) for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:49:16 -0400 (EDT) From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Message-ID: <154.e9cdf3.28d275cc@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:49:16 EDT Subject: Re: new york firefighters memorial fund To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 123 In a message dated 9/13/01 4:16:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lantech@XXXXXX writes: > please send this link to all of your friends/coworkers. if you follow the > link you can donate online to the new york firefighters memorial fund. we > should support our rescuers at a time like this. AOL is doing the same thing on the service and web sites I believe. Keener From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 21:40:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8E1em600697 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 2.14d.f5138d (4553) for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:14:46 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Message-ID: <14d.f5138d.28d297e6@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:14:46 EDT Subject: Fitting replacement for the WTC Towers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14d.f5138d.28d297e6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10536 --part1_14d.f5138d.28d297e6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 've seen a few articles talking about what they're going to do on the WTC site after it's cleared off. Some have suggested building a memorial, others suggested another building. My suggestion, get the original plans for the WTC towers, upgrade them for the 21st century and rebuild the both of them right where they were. What better way to show the resolve of the American people than to show that what they can take down, we can rebuild. If they need a memorial, turn the first floor into a memorial and let the rest take up the duties of the previous building. Just my .02. Scooter (2000 r/w/b YZF R6) --part1_14d.f5138d.28d297e6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 've seen a few articles talking about what they're going to do on the WTC site after it's cleared off.  Some have suggested building a memorial, others suggested another building.  

My suggestion, get the original plans for the WTC towers, upgrade them for the 21st century and rebuild the both of them right where they were.  What better way to show the resolve of the American people than to show that what they can take down, we can rebuild.  If they need a memorial, turn the first floor into a memorial and let the rest take up the duties of the previous building.

Just my .02.

Scooter (2000 r/w/b YZF R6)
--part1_14d.f5138d.28d297e6_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 21:41:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f312.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.187]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8E1fc600705 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:41:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:23:11 -0700 Received: from 24.4.252.26 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:23:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.252.26] From: "Jay Block" To: AIMLawyers@XXXXXX, aimncom@XXXXXX, altamres@XXXXXX, bmogol@XXXXXX, bpickels@XXXXXX, bussep@XXXXXX, carolwalsh@XXXXXX, ccurtis@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX, DANDMBLOCK@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, djake@XXXXXX, dukeclu@XXXXXX, frankmazz1@XXXXXX, Gawthrop@XXXXXX, johntoni@XXXXXX, KathleenLoerich@XXXXXX, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX, md.abate@XXXXXX, m-riders@XXXXXX, NCOMBish@XXXXXX, Phil_Novicki@XXXXXX, pjnlinda@XXXXXX, prez95ocmd@XXXXXX, psause@XXXXXX, psycoward@XXXXXX, thealohatwins@XXXXXX, TUNAFOX44@XXXXXX, twoswans@XXXXXX Subject: Fwd: FW: Tear in his eye... Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:23:10 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1907_3c54_3004" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2001 01:23:11.0608 (UTC) FILETIME=[D198AF80:01C13CBB] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1907_3c54_3004 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I don't normally forward stuff, but this stood out. Jay From: "Jay Block" To: jayblockllc@XXXXXX Subject: Fwd: FW: Tear in his eye... Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:18:45 -0400 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------=_NextPart_000_1907_3c54_3004 Content-Type: text/html X-Stn-Info:





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[64.12.136.163]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8E1f4600699 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:41:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 2.97.1b25307c (30952) for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:52:50 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <97.1b25307c.28d2a0d1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:52:49 EDT Subject: Re: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Always make the first date a ride. That separates the wheat from the chaff damn quickly. It is a rule I always followed and wound up taking the bike on our honeymoon. Did I "loose" a few? None that were worth while. From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 13 21:41:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8E1fT600704 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:41:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8DN6rn16999; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:06:54 -0400 From: laura granato To: Dustin Crabtree , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Prediction Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:07:23 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> In-Reply-To: <20010913152538.8C17136FA@sitemail.everyone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0109131907230F.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 13 September 2001 11:25, Dustin Crabtree wrote: > I found this online... > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous astrologer, thinker... > > Ok, fellow listers...time to chill out. ok, so it's a hoax or whatever, but no need to bash this poor guy repeatedly. he thought it was interesting and was trying to share...that's all. I know everyone is stressed, but good lord, calm down. the first reply about it being a hoax was fine, but the crap after that was too much... Laura From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:07:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds1.osc.uscg.mil (cgds1.osc.uscg.mil [152.121.49.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJ7r618099 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil by CGDS1.osc.uscg.mil with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:17:24 -0400 Received: by hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:17:39 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 09/13/01 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:17:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Security is freedom. We have ignored security and now must pay the price for that folly in the form of blood. The money which was "saved" will now be extracted exponentially. STARBUCKS takes a week to train a new employee in the preparation of latte's espresso's etc... The airlines take 1.5 days to train their security check point personnel. I was in Italy a couple of years ago and the Caribanari (sp) don't fool around at airports. In fact I'm wondering why the 3 or 4 middle eastern men who purchased one way tickets in cash Tuesday a.m., didn't register with the ticket agent at Boston. In Europe the police would have been over at that counter (silent alarm system) in a second, guns drawn, no B.S. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! I wonder if the ticket agent completely neglected their duties or were afraid of repercussions from management over racially profiling that group? George M. 78 R80/7 (131k) 79 GS1000EC (sold) From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:08:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJ8T618112 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:08:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA22610 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:20:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimout3-int.prodigy.net (pimout3-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.102]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00743 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:20:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CJ144294A (A040-0601.MLE2.splitrock.net [64.198.132.93]) by pimout3-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f8EFKBc193064; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:20:11 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" , , , , , "Tom Faigle" Subject: Pentagon Flag Ride: Postponed Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 11:20:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Ah, well, rain has put the kybosh on the ride tonight. As well, I took a swing by the Pentagon and found that Columbia Pike, which was open one way earlier, was closed late last night. Thanks to those expressed interest, perhaps we can find another day next week to pull it off. Rob Curtis Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ Never be afraid to try something new; remember, amateurs built the Ark, and professionals built the Titanic. __________________ From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:08:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJ8W618117 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:08:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA18832 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:42:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08792 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CJ144294A (A040-0511.MLE2.splitrock.net [64.198.132.3]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f8DMgaa75012 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:42:36 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: USA Today- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 18:42:36 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 If anyone has a spare copy of Yesterday's (9/12) USA Today, I would be grateful to get a whole copy (I apparently have a photo on Page 3). I don't have even one copy... I'd like to have one for my (Very) soon to be daughter. Thanks! Rob Curtis Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ Never be afraid to try something new; remember, amateurs built the Ark, and professionals built the Titanic. __________________ From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:08:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJ8V618115 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA19079 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:04:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web9608.mail.yahoo.com (web9608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.187]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA10587 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010914000431.44071.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [151.200.16.190] by web9608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:04:31 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:04:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Nothing more need be said. To: Larry Larson , Robert Beatty , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010913160859.00af2920@mail.9netave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii YES!!! Time for ACTION!!! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Larry Larson wrote: > At 10:47 AM 9/13/01, Robert Beatty wrote: > > > Nothing more need be said. > > > sept11.jpg > > I don't know about anyone else, but the tear's not > enough for > me -- I want to see that eagle with talons extended, > striking. > > -- Larry > > > > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:07:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJ7V618087 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA25252 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from drat.cs.umd.edu (drat.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.23]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA13531 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from carterr ([198.28.60.57]) by drat.cs.umd.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f8ELDLT04270 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200109142113.f8ELDLT04270@drat.cs.umd.edu> From: Hahaha Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story! 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAA= ----VEYR852JOXUJKPQF4X6N4PYN-- From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:08:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJ8R618110 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA23845 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:18:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06804 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.39]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GJN008F5YILZX@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:42:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GJN00I01YIGXP@XXXXXX>; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:42:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GJN00I17YI2PV@XXXXXX>; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:42:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:41:15 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Nothing more need be said. To: Robert Beatty Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3BA2413B.4EE5E58E@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Accept-Language: en References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8FJ8e618111 Robert Beatty wrote: > > Name: september11.jpg > september11.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 I like this picture a whole lot better. http://www.sampson-sporttouring.com/images/wtcrb.jpg Hork -- Mandatory second line (Chatty Moron M-^Y) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 81 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:09:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f218.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.218]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJ9P618162 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:09:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:03:53 -0700 Received: from 64.111.16.107 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 00:03:52 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.111.16.107] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dccycles2@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dccycles2] Flags Across America Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 20:03:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Sep 2001 00:03:53.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDA803A0:01C13CB0] So far I stopped at my local Walmart, Target, Home Depot, Pep Boys and called the nearest Sunny's and nobody has any flags left. (Way to go people!!!!) But, damn! Now I can't find one for the VFR :( Anyone have a secret source near them and can help me out??? Thanks. Rob '98 VFR800 (w/ no flag) :( From: Trey Herb Reply-To: dccycles2@XXXXXX To: cycles2 , DC-Cycles Subject: [dccycles2] Flags Across America Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:26:01 -0700 (PDT) This came accross the work email. And is being passed around very quickly. I will not make the ride tonight but I will shop for a flag to mount for tommorrow. I think everyone who rides to work should put a flag on Friday. Trey ---------- To show these terrorists that the people of the United States stick together, Friday September 14th, is going to be designated as "Flags Across America." All Americans are asked to display the American flag either in their homes, cars, on their bodies, at work or whatever. Let's keep the meaning of UNITED in "United States". Pass this onto as many people as you know. THANK YOU. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:10:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([63.218.228.98]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJAF618191 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iguana.wheatintl.com (iguana [63.218.228.106]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8EDv2p03041 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:57:02 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010914095551.0343aec0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:56:59 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: No files on list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Everyone stop sending files to the dc-cycles list. It is forbidden and the digests look like crap with no file. Post the pic somewhere and send a link. ______________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org Try a little kindness. As little as possible. From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:10:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([63.218.228.98]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJAK618200 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iguana.wheatintl.com (iguana [63.218.228.106]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8E5b6p02208 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:37:06 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010914013627.032c8550@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 01:37:03 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: WAY OT (New Nostradamus) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed In my searching for the original texts (debunking spam), I found some other interesting Nostradamus predictions within century X. I've always been somewhat interested in what he wrote - not putting any faith in it, but interested just the same. #82 could easily fit the hijacking situation. I do find it fascinating that America is mentioned when it did not exist at the time of the writings. Obviously anything could be read into these writings. The site below has the original French if interested. http://www.astrologer.ru:8003/Nostradamiana/centuries-eng.html 66 The chief of London through the realm of America, The Isle of Scotland will be tried by frost: King and 'Reb' will face an Antichrist so false, That he will place them in the conflict all together. 72 The year 1999, seventh month, From the sky will come a great King of Terror: To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols, Before and after Mars to reign by good luck. 74 The year of the great seventh number accomplished, It will appear at the time of the games of slaughter: Not far from the great millennial age, When the buried will go out from their tombs. 75 Long awaited he will never return In Europe, he will appear in Asia: One of the league issued from the great Hermes, And he will grow over all the Kings of the East. 82 Cries, weeping, tears will come with knives, Seeming to flee, they will deliver a final attack, Parks around to set up high platforms, The living pushed back and murdered instantly. 93 The new bark will take trips, There and near by they will transfer the Empire: Beaucaire, Arles will retain the hostages, Near by, two columns of Porphyry found. ______________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org Try a little kindness. As little as possible. From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:11:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f144.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.144]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJBX618211 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:15:41 -0700 Received: from 24.4.252.27 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 03:15:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.252.27] From: "Jay Block" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: darn Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:15:41 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2001 03:15:41.0578 (UTC) FILETIME=[B34E1EA0:01C13D94] I am so sorry the attachment came across as gobbledygook. As I have now received it over twenty times since then from others, it is no longer as impressive. It was a picture of an American Eagle looking over the Twin Towers with a tear in its eye. It was the only picture I felt related to the feelings I had over the whole problem. I feel at a loss to express myself correctly and that picture was the thousand words for me. Anyway, to all of us, thank you for all of the other emails. I know I am not alone in my emotional roller coaster and I am grateful for those of you who have included my in their emails. I hope for a wonderful day for those who can ride on Saturday. My spirit rides with you. Jay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:19:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from es05.hosts.jhmi.edu (es05.hosts.jhmi.edu [162.129.224.75]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJJS618415 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.jhu.edu (stevendipietro.peabody1.jhmi.edu [10.224.65.91]) by es05.hosts.jhmi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00512 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:20:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3BA20487.9FCA419A@peabody.jhu.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:22:16 -0400 From: "Steven C. Di Pietro" Organization: Peabody Institute of The Johns Hopkins University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: [Fwd: **US MILITARY VETS MC FREEDOM RIDE 9/15**] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FDAAC30AA47BA800CCD0E7F0" --------------FDAAC30AA47BA800CCD0E7F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX wrote: > Deadeye has sent out this notice on behalf of the USMVMCs. > > Folks, I truly wish I join in this ride, but I cannot (bike still not > ready and About 12 MC has their big campout that day). I SINCERELY > ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU WHO CAN ATTEND THIS EVENT, PLEASE DO SO. > > Ride Safe. Ride Free. Speak As One. > babe > > > > > Flags For Freedom Ride > Saturday, 9/15 > > > > The U.S. Military Vets Motorcycle Club is organizing a Flags for > Freedom ride this Saturday, Sept. 15, 2001. We are contacting as many > riding clubs, motorcycle clubs and individual riders as we can for > this show of patriotism and support for the victims of Tuesday's > attack. The meeting spot is at the Target Dept. store parking lot in > Bowie, MD, right off the exit at Rt. 50/301 and Rt. 3. Plan to get > there fueled at 0900 for departure at 0930. The route will be to the > beltway via Rt. 50, counter-clockwise around the beltway to > Springfield VA where we ride North on I-395 past the Pentagon. We > will then pass through DC to RFK stadium, before returning to Bowie. > This is probably a 70 mile total route to show our support and to wave > the flags. I know flags are tough to come by this week (which is a > good thing), so if you don't have one, come and show your support > anyway. Contact# 410-923-0396 > Deadeye > --------------FDAAC30AA47BA800CCD0E7F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  

LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX wrote:

Deadeye has sent out this notice on behalf of the USMVMCs.

Folks, I truly wish I join in this ride, but I cannot (bike still not ready and About 12 MC has their big campout that day). I SINCERELY ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU WHO CAN ATTEND THIS EVENT, PLEASE DO SO.

Ride Safe. Ride Free. Speak As One.
babe


 


Flags For Freedom Ride
Saturday, 9/15



The U.S. Military Vets Motorcycle Club is organizing a Flags for Freedom ride this Saturday, Sept. 15, 2001. We are contacting as many riding clubs, motorcycle clubs and individual riders as we can for this show of patriotism and support for the victims of Tuesday's attack. The meeting spot is at the Target Dept. store parking lot in Bowie, MD, right off the exit at Rt. 50/301 and Rt. 3.  Plan to get there fueled at 0900 for departure at 0930. The route  will be to the beltway via Rt. 50, counter-clockwise around the beltway to Springfield VA where we ride North on I-395 past the Pentagon.  We will then pass through DC to RFK stadium, before returning to Bowie.  This is probably a 70 mile total route to show our support and to wave the flags. I know flags are tough to come by this week (which is a good thing), so if you don't have one, come and show your support anyway. Contact# 410-923-0396
Deadeye
 

--------------FDAAC30AA47BA800CCD0E7F0-- From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:20:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from min.net (min.net [208.222.210.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJJl618416 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:19:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8EEdxb13246 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:39:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: Ride 4 Kids Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I deleted the message, are some listers meeting at the Mobil across from Columbia Mall at 8:30? -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, morris@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL(DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C)#446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:31:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from omta02.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJVBi00434 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:31:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta02.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6149B1C388E for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 3B52B36F9; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:22:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:22:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Crabtree To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Prediction Reply-To: Dustin@XXXXXX X-Originating-Ip: [66.44.60.200] Message-Id: <20010915032210.3B52B36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> To all, Sorry it took so long to reply to the post I had sent, my email has been down. I found this "prediction" to be very disturbing and was unsure of the facts behind such a paragraph and thought nothing of posting it to share with others since it was posted on a "major" news BBS. I will go through my browser and find the correct link and forward it in my next email. Now to address the problem I have with the overwhelming feedback from some members on the list. If you think I started spreading this rumor/hoax/shit/or whatever else was said about this, "BITE ME!!!!!" Some people had seen this earlier in the week, I had not! The first reply I got telling me this was a hoax was only 1-2 minutes after I had sent it. So go grab a beer and chill. I know everyone is upset, and by all rights should be, WE HAVE BEEN ATTACKED!!!!!! WE ARE ALL IN PAIN. I am just as sick of this as many of you are. What makes me more sick of this is that my post got more replies than the person who wanted to do a ride of support around the Beltway or for that matter the "Ride 4 Kids!!!" Thats Fn' sad! In closing, My prayers are with the families and friends of all who passed this week. God help the Rescuers in their efforts to find any and all survivors. To the person who wanted to ride around 495, Let me know when and where. Dustin _____________________________________________________________ Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest rocketry-oriented Internet information. "Your global rocketry resource..." From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:33:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds1.osc.uscg.mil (cgds1.osc.uscg.mil [152.121.49.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJXMi00461 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex.comdt.uscg.mil by CGDS1.osc.uscg.mil with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:13:41 -0400 Received: by hqex.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:15:33 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 09/13/01 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:13:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Security is freedom. We have ignored security and now must pay the price for that folly in the form of blood. The money which was "saved" will now be extracted exponentially. STARBUCKS takes a week to train a new employee in the preparation of latte's espresso's etc... The airlines take 1.5 days to train their security check point personnel. I was in Italy a couple of years ago and the Caribanari (sp) don't fool around at airports. In fact I'm wondering why the 3 or 4 middle eastern men who purchased one way tickets in cash Tuesday a.m., didn't register with the ticket agent at Boston. In Europe the police would have been over at that counter (silent alarm system) in a second, guns drawn, no B.S. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! I wonder if the ticket agent completely neglected their duties or were afraid of repercussions from management over racially profiling that group? George M. Bruhl Project Officer, G-AND National Distress and Response Modernization Project Phone: 202.267.2020 Fax: 202.493.7002 Page: 866.259.6029 http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-a/ndrsmp/ -----Original Message----- From: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX [mailto:dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:01 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 09/13/01 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX |_| ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 20:30:06 EDT Subject: Irony sucks To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX The following is a message I am cross posting from another list. It is from the fellow I mentioned the other day who had to worry about his bike being damaged by mortar fire. I said something like "at least we do not have to worry about it here... yea right... We have (unfortunately) become all too accustomed to this kind of murder / outrage. Over here you can't walk into any public facility, or even a supermarket, without being searched. It is both demeaning and ridiculous. I will only add that I hope the U.S.A. takes positive action to hurt those who perpetrated this, and that certainly includes the so-called innocents who provide moral and material support. Support from someone who knows. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:00 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 How many folks would show up for a group ride through DC and past the Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? Say one evening this week? If there are enough of us, it would be a tremendous show of support and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our bikes or have passengers carry them. How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the Sears side of the Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at 6:30, Flags ready. If folks need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme Know. I would suggest that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten the impact of our gesture. Rob Curtis Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ Never be afraid to try something new; remember, amateurs built the Ark, and professionals built the Titanic. __________________ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "John Luc" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:57:32 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sorry, and I hope I don't offend anyone, but I am looking for a female riding companion. Going through a divorce - I promised myself the next woman in my life WOULD understand the addictive nature of motorcycling. So if you're a beautiful :) (single) motorcycle riding woman, who happens to like homely black motorcycle riding guys (smile) - I am up for adoption (smile). Just send me a wink. Thanks>>>Jean-Luc ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeannette To: Dale Horstman ; Trey Herb Cc: DC-Cycles Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: Re: ride to work day > I'd be up for Grevey's, but Sterling is a bit of a > hike for me on lunch break... > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > --- Dale Horstman wrote: > > > > > > Anyone up for a DC-Cycles "Ride to Lunch" event on > > that day? I'm thinking the Burger King on Route 7 > > in Sterling, (or maybe even Grevey's) would be a > > good central gathering spot. Other easy-access > > location suggestions welcomed. Fast food would > > probably > > be better, since we'll probably all end up in the > > parking lot BSing anyway. :) > > > > Horkster > > > > -- > > Mandatory second line (CM tm) > > > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 > > - 40 of 99 done. > > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 04:01:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Ride 4 Kides will go on To: DC-Cycles Sorry if I sent out a blank post a minute ago, Yahoo gets sensative if you hit return in the wrong field. (Bad pinky finger!!) Anyway, I just checked the Ride For Kids page (http://www.ride4kids.org) and they have the following message: "The Ride for Kids event scheduled for this Sunday, September 16, 2001, in Columbia, MD will take place as planned. Our program will include a special memorial to those who died in the terrorist acts on the US this week. Please come and help us remember those who lost their lives this week as we continue the battle against childhood brain tumors." I have wanted to attend a Ride For Kids for a while, but was always teaching or out of town the weekend of the ride. So I'm glad they have decided to continue. Hopefully it will help things to start feeling on track again. Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Alexandria, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://members.nbci.com/Nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:55:01 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: NON Moto - for computer techies... Redux... Thanks to all who replied to my inquiry about laptop computers. I purchased a used/refurbished IBM ThinkPad 600 which has more stuff then I need for mere word processing. Got a free carry case, and - funneee - free speakers which wiegh more than the dang computer. They'll stay home in the box. Only one prob, the screen driver is an VGA and I couldn't find a better one onboard the computer. Looks like a tech-help call to IBM is in order. It is usable with a VGA but I would like better screen resolution - the dodgey VGA is rough on my ol' peepers. Now for the real world computer test! On Sep 20 I'll be blasting off for a much needed get-away-from-this-crazy-world motorcycle trip. The laptop will be in the Harley bag, shakin' and vibin'. Bill _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:39:39 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? To: Cc: If it weren't for the fact that my bike is in the shop with an electrical problem, I would. As it is, I hope you pull this off and I'll be there in spirit. Scooter In a message dated Wed, 12 Sep 2001 9:25:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Rob Curtis" writes: > How many folks would show up for a group ride through DC and past the > Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? Say one evening this > week? If there are enough of us, it would be a tremendous show of support > and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. > We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our bikes or have > passengers carry them. > How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the Sears side of the > Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at 6:30, Flags ready. If folks > need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme Know. I would suggest > that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten the impact of our > gesture. > > Rob Curtis > Staff Photographer > Army Times Publishing Co. > Springfield, VA > > http://www.robcurtis.com > __________________ > Never be afraid to try something new; > remember, amateurs built the Ark, and > professionals built the Titanic. > __________________ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Knapik Subject: Areostitch Combat Touring Boots To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anybody have a pair of Areostitch Combat Touring Boots? I'm looking for opinions on how well made they are and how they stack up as a pair of all round MC boots. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:30:23 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-SLUIDL: D5BFDB1E-A77F11D5-8E1E0060-08C770E5 heh. I always wondered where a guy could find a single m/c riding woman. They're rare and very desirable, so every one I've met already had a S.O. I can't decide whether to applaud Jean Luc's initiative or pity him. The "D" is not fun. Jean, if this works, let me know. If my current (non-moto) gf doesn't work out, maybe I'll try this route ;-) --jon 34yo, SWPM, 6', athletic build, br hair, haz eyes; Enjoys bikes (pedal and motor), cooking (I have an herb garden), red wine, music from Kennedy Center to Wolf Trap to 9:30 Club, watch indie and foreign films along with the occasional Hollywood Blockbuster. 01 Suz Bandit 1200 > -----Original Message----- > From: John Luc [mailto:Harold269@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:58 AM > To: DC-Cycles > Subject: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > > > Sorry, and I hope I don't offend anyone, but I am looking for a female > riding companion. Going through a divorce - I promised myself the next > woman in my life WOULD understand the addictive nature of motorcycling. > > So if you're a beautiful :) (single) motorcycle riding woman, who > happens to > like homely black motorcycle riding guys (smile) - I am up for adoption > (smile). Just send me a wink. Thanks>>>Jean-Luc _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Originating-IP: [166.32.192.143] From: "Rob Keiser" To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:37:25 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 12:37:25.0945 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7D8E290:01C13C50] I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty helpless just watching the news. But, with all of the activity still going on downtown and with the street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to the congestion. Perhaps we all could join the Ride for Kids Sunday and partake in their remembrance of all the victims of Tuesday's tragedies while at the same time helping a great cause. Just a thought. Does anyone know where the ride from Columbia ends? Also, where is a good place to get some flags to mount to the bike? Thanks. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Rob Curtis" Reply-To: To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:00 -0400 How many folks would show up for a group ride through DC and past the Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? Say one evening this week? If there are enough of us, it would be a tremendous show of support and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our bikes or have passengers carry them. How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the Sears side of the Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at 6:30, Flags ready. If folks need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme Know. I would suggest that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten the impact of our gesture. Rob Curtis Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ Never be afraid to try something new; remember, amateurs built the Ark, and professionals built the Titanic. __________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? To: DC Cycles You can probably find a flag at any Sunny Surplus or others such as Kmart or Target. Just to let everyone know, some listers are planning to meet at the gas station (Mobil?) across the street from the Columbia Mall on Patuxent Rd. at 8:30. So far, as I understand, we have 5 or 6 riders meeting there. If you would like to join us, come on out!!! Matt Black GS500e --- Rob Keiser wrote: > I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty > helpless just watching the > news. But, with all of the activity still going on > downtown and with the > street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to > the congestion. > > Perhaps we all could join the Ride for Kids Sunday > and partake in their > remembrance of all the victims of Tuesday's > tragedies while at the same time > helping a great cause. Just a thought. > > Does anyone know where the ride from Columbia ends? > Also, where is a good > place to get some flags to mount to the bike? > > Thanks. > > Rob > '98 VFR800 > > > > From: "Rob Curtis" > Reply-To: > To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" > Subject: Pentagon Flag Ride? > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:00 -0400 > > How many folks would show up for a group ride > through DC and past the > Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? > Say one evening this > week? If there are enough of us, it would be a > tremendous show of support > and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. > We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our > bikes or have > passengers carry them. > How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the > Sears side of the > Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at > 6:30, Flags ready. If folks > need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme > Know. I would suggest > that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten > the impact of our > gesture. > > Rob Curtis > Staff Photographer > Army Times Publishing Co. > Springfield, VA > > http://www.robcurtis.com > __________________ > Never be afraid to try something new; > remember, amateurs built the Ark, and > professionals built the Titanic. > __________________ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Wesleyan Hsu" To: Subject: RE: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:58:53 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 I'd have to agree with Rob regarding the congestion and chaos happening down there. A coworker of mine is a volunteer firefighter and he has been working down at the Pentagon for the past 2 days. It's not pretty. As far as the Ride for Kids...I was already planning on participating (my donor list is slowly growing) so I am happy that the event is still on with a special remembrance for this tragedy. I hope you all will join me on Sunday for this worthy cause. I would love to carry a flag on this ride. If anyone knows where I can find a moderate sized flag as well as suggestions on how I can mount it, please contact me. Wes Hsu R1100S > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Keiser [mailto:robkeiser@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:37 AM > To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? > > > I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty helpless just > watching the > news. But, with all of the activity still going on downtown > and with the > street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to the congestion. > > Perhaps we all could join the Ride for Kids Sunday and > partake in their > remembrance of all the victims of Tuesday's tragedies while > at the same time > helping a great cause. Just a thought. > > Does anyone know where the ride from Columbia ends? Also, > where is a good > place to get some flags to mount to the bike? _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:12:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: flag mounting To: DCC I believe I saw really cool flags and mounting hardware at Winchester Motosports. Drag Specialties brand, I think. Seems like most HD shops would have them. HTH, Rich __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Originating-IP: [204.71.174.14] From: "Perry Coleman" To: jmstrang@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:04:13 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 13:04:13.0442 (UTC) FILETIME=[95FD7620:01C13C54] Jon/Jean: A thought... Make sure that your bike (and riding style) are setup to accomodate a passenger. If you want to create/maintain a mutual riding arrangement, you must make the passenger comfortable. My wife (of almost 14 years) had never been on a motorcycle before we met. Our first date was a ride on my bike and dinner at Pizza Hut. I took her on a moderately fast ride through the more rural areas of Anne Arundel county, but did not get too radical. She loved the ride, but didn't feel too comfortable on the pillion of my KZ1100. I went out and found a backrest that would fit. Unfortunately, from an appearance perspective, the only one I could find that would work with my model included a luggage rack. I didn't particularly care for the look, but she loved the support. The luggage rack did prove it's worth, however, as we could carry gear on it, as well as in my tank bag when we did longer rides. Eventually, she decided she wanted to see the view from the front seat, so she took the MSF course and got her own bike. She's been riding for about 8-9 years now. Now, we do lots of day trips and a couple of weekend trips every year. We just did a trip to Youngstown, OH over the Labor Day weekend. She rode the ZX-6 and I rode the Concours. So, if you want to have a partner to ride with you, make sure that you don't screw up the early impression with too aggressive of a ride, and be prepared to modify (or change) your bike to increase their comfort and confidence. Perry >From: "Jon Strang" >To: "DC-Cycles" >Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:30:23 -0400 > >heh. I always wondered where a guy could find a single m/c riding woman. >They're rare and very desirable, so every one I've met already had a S.O. > >I can't decide whether to applaud Jean Luc's initiative or pity him. The >"D" is not fun. > >Jean, if this works, let me know. If my current (non-moto) gf doesn't work >out, maybe I'll try this route ;-) > >--jon >34yo, SWPM, 6', athletic build, br hair, haz eyes; >Enjoys bikes (pedal and motor), cooking (I have an herb garden), red wine, >music from Kennedy Center to Wolf Trap to 9:30 Club, >watch indie and foreign films along with the occasional Hollywood >Blockbuster. >01 Suz Bandit 1200 > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Luc [mailto:Harold269@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:58 AM > > To: DC-Cycles > > Subject: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > > > > > > Sorry, and I hope I don't offend anyone, but I am looking for a female > > riding companion. Going through a divorce - I promised myself the next > > woman in my life WOULD understand the addictive nature of motorcycling. > > > > So if you're a beautiful :) (single) motorcycle riding woman, who > > happens to > > like homely black motorcycle riding guys (smile) - I am up for adoption > > (smile). Just send me a wink. Thanks>>>Jean-Luc > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:15:14 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-SLUIDL: D5BFDB85-A77F11D5-8E1E0060-08C770E5 Perry, I was being facetious. I'm not looking and am not considering looking. --jon p.s. Besides, anyone can find some fender fluff. I'd want a woman who rides her own bike. > -----Original Message----- > From: Perry Coleman [mailto:perrycoleman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:04 AM > To: jmstrang@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > > > Jon/Jean: > > A thought... > > Make sure that your bike (and riding style) are setup to accomodate a > passenger. If you want to create/maintain a mutual riding > arrangement, you > must make the passenger comfortable. > > My wife (of almost 14 years) had never been on a motorcycle > before we met. > Our first date was a ride on my bike and dinner at Pizza Hut. I > took her on > a moderately fast ride through the more rural areas of Anne > Arundel county, > but did not get too radical. She loved the ride, but didn't feel too > comfortable on the pillion of my KZ1100. I went out and found a backrest > that would fit. Unfortunately, from an appearance perspective, > the only one > I could find that would work with my model included a luggage > rack. I didn't > particularly care for the look, but she loved the support. The > luggage rack > did prove it's worth, however, as we could carry gear on it, as > well as in > my tank bag when we did longer rides. Eventually, she decided she > wanted to > see the view from the front seat, so she took the MSF course and > got her own > bike. She's been riding for about 8-9 years now. Now, we do lots of day > trips and a couple of weekend trips every year. We just did a trip to > Youngstown, OH over the Labor Day weekend. She rode the ZX-6 and > I rode the > Concours. > > So, if you want to have a partner to ride with you, make sure > that you don't > screw up the early impression with too aggressive of a ride, and > be prepared > to modify (or change) your bike to increase their comfort and confidence. > > Perry > > >From: "Jon Strang" > >To: "DC-Cycles" > >Subject: RE: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > >Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:30:23 -0400 > > > >heh. I always wondered where a guy could find a single m/c riding woman. > >They're rare and very desirable, so every one I've met already had a S.O. > > > >I can't decide whether to applaud Jean Luc's initiative or pity him. The > >"D" is not fun. > > > >Jean, if this works, let me know. If my current (non-moto) gf > doesn't work > >out, maybe I'll try this route ;-) > > > >--jon > >34yo, SWPM, 6', athletic build, br hair, haz eyes; > >Enjoys bikes (pedal and motor), cooking (I have an herb garden), > red wine, > >music from Kennedy Center to Wolf Trap to 9:30 Club, > >watch indie and foreign films along with the occasional Hollywood > >Blockbuster. > >01 Suz Bandit 1200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John Luc [mailto:Harold269@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:58 AM > > > To: DC-Cycles > > > Subject: Hum... looking for a female riding partner/off topic > > > > > > > > > Sorry, and I hope I don't offend anyone, but I am looking for a female > > > riding companion. Going through a divorce - I promised > myself the next > > > woman in my life WOULD understand the addictive nature of > motorcycling. > > > > > > So if you're a beautiful :) (single) motorcycle riding woman, who > > > happens to > > > like homely black motorcycle riding guys (smile) - I am up > for adoption > > > (smile). Just send me a wink. Thanks>>>Jean-Luc > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Originating-IP: [166.32.192.143] From: "Rob Keiser" To: m_rosenstock@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:19:32 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 13:19:32.0626 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9DDCF20:01C13C56] Sounds great, Matt. I'll see you there! Rob '98 VFR800 (about to be flagged) Another use for the Wingrack. From: Matthew Rosenstock To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) You can probably find a flag at any Sunny Surplus or others such as Kmart or Target. Just to let everyone know, some listers are planning to meet at the gas station (Mobil?) across the street from the Columbia Mall on Patuxent Rd. at 8:30. So far, as I understand, we have 5 or 6 riders meeting there. If you would like to join us, come on out!!! Matt Black GS500e --- Rob Keiser wrote: > I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty > helpless just watching the > news. But, with all of the activity still going on > downtown and with the > street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to > the congestion. > > Perhaps we all could join the Ride for Kids Sunday > and partake in their > remembrance of all the victims of Tuesday's > tragedies while at the same time > helping a great cause. Just a thought. > > Does anyone know where the ride from Columbia ends? > Also, where is a good > place to get some flags to mount to the bike? > > Thanks. > > Rob > '98 VFR800 > > > > From: "Rob Curtis" > Reply-To: > To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" > Subject: Pentagon Flag Ride? > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:21:00 -0400 > > How many folks would show up for a group ride > through DC and past the > Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? > Say one evening this > week? If there are enough of us, it would be a > tremendous show of support > and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. > We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our > bikes or have > passengers carry them. > How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the > Sears side of the > Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at > 6:30, Flags ready. If folks > need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme > Know. I would suggest > that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten > the impact of our > gesture. > > Rob Curtis > Staff Photographer > Army Times Publishing Co. > Springfield, VA > > http://www.robcurtis.com > __________________ > Never be afraid to try something new; > remember, amateurs built the Ark, and > professionals built the Titanic. > __________________ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:18:21 -0400 Subject: RE: Pentagon Flag Ride? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I tend to agree that the Ride for Kids will have a nice memorial, I think that something in this area could still be done. I remember hearing of a ride around the beltway in cages in memorial to Dale Earnhart (sp?). I am all in favor of doing something around DC, whether inside/through the city or around on the beltway, also it may not be a bad idea to alert other lists of our plans (once finalized) to make this event as big as possible. If the idea catches on the way i think it will, we may even have to alert police and other authorities so we don't cause any inconveniences for them. My suggestion for when to do this is either Saturday (to avoid traffic) or on Monday giving people a chance to adjust their schedules. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:26:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Flags Across America To: cycles2 , DC-Cycles This came accross the work email. And is being passed around very quickly. I will not make the ride tonight but I will shop for a flag to mount for tommorrow. I think everyone who rides to work should put a flag on Friday. Trey ---------- To show these terrorists that the people of the United States stick together, Friday September 14th, is going to be designated as "Flags Across America." All Americans are asked to display the American flag either in their homes, cars, on their bodies, at work or whatever. Let's keep the meaning of UNITED in "United States". Pass this onto as many people as you know. THANK YOU. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? 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(_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: lantech To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: 9/11 victims memorial service Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:48:47 -0400 hello all--- i don't have a date posted yet but it seems that DCGovernment, Federal Government and the military are attempting to coordinate a memorial service for the victims of the terrorist attacks. i'm under the impression that it will not be until the end of the month or the first week of october (it will probably actually be some time later) and that it will involve a funeral procession of some sort from the capitol to arlington cemetary. details spotty right now. i'll be going on my bike. i will pass details as i get them but i think it would be trememdous if we could get just about every bike in the DC area there... sort of rolling thunder style but definitely more somber. -patti _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:59:33 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Rob Keiser" >I'm all for a show of support. I feel pretty helpless just watching the >news. But, with all of the activity still going on downtown and with the >street closures, I'm thinking we shouldn't add to the congestion. Good point. I feel much the same. What I've done: 1. Fly our flag at our house, all day and all night (illuminated at night, of course). 2. Gone to church and prayed. 3. Donated money to Red Cross (I can't donate blood) 4. Spend time with my family. 5. Get back to work, and show those ******** what we're made of. God Bless America Chris Norloff _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Originating-IP: [63.21.243.198] From: "Kenneth Shephard" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:14:02 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 14:14:03.0114 (UTC) FILETIME=[573AACA0:01C13C5E] I've been too busy to follow this whole thread, Are their plans for a flag ride in the weeks/weekends ahead? I think its a great idea, once the recovery efforts have concluded. Thanks,,, Ken S........ Ride Safe and Forever Free Inwood WV _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:47:24 -0400 From: "Robert Beatty" To: Subject: Nothing more need be said. This is a MIME message. 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(_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:25:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Crabtree To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Prediction Reply-To: Dustin@XXXXXX X-Originating-Ip: [66.44.69.84] I found this online... Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous astrologer, thinker... In the city of God there will be a great thunder, two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb. "The third big war will begin when the big city is burning." On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal birds would crash into two tall statues in the New City, and the world will end soon after. Nostradamus 1654' _____________________________________________________________ Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest rocketry-oriented Internet information. "Your global rocketry resource..." _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:21:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: New Muffler To: SOC USA , DC Cycles How difficult is it to install a new muffler if I'm a decent garage mechanic? Is it worth doing myself? Matt GS500e __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:33:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Prediction To: Dustin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX This is a hoax and has been refuted all across the internet. Beware what you read on the 'net. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Dustin Crabtree wrote: > I found this online... > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous > astrologer, thinker... > > > In the city of God there will be a great thunder, > two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress > endures, the great leader will succumb. "The third > big war will begin when the big city is burning." > On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal > birds would crash into two tall statues in the New > City, and the world will end soon after. > > Nostradamus 1654' > > _____________________________________________________________ > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > "Your global rocketry resource..." __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:43:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Corbett B Subject: Re: Prediction To: Jeannette , DC Cycles Agreed...I've seen numerous versions and one of the original translations.... Most of these "predictions" are so vague that they could mean ANYTHING. This particular version is a rediculously altred interpretation. -Corbett --- Jeannette wrote: > This is a hoax and has been refuted all across the > internet. > Beware what you read on the 'net. > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > --- Dustin Crabtree > wrote: > > I found this online... > > > > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous > > astrologer, thinker... > > > > > > In the city of God there will be a great > thunder, > > two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the > fortress > > endures, the great leader will succumb. "The > third > > big war will begin when the big city is burning." > > On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal > > birds would crash into two tall statues in the New > > City, and the world will end soon after. > > > > Nostradamus 1654' > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > > > "Your global rocketry resource..." > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ===== -Corbett '99 BMW K1200RS AMA Member BMW Motorcycle Owners Association Member __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVapgV20jFHA1fEpd+kt02QSMJPk9X5XFNXB+vG/MPdOsMtHpRus+cMa From: "Genna Melamed" To: Subject: Fw: U.S. CRISIS- YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED! Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:57:02 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I got this message from a friend in Brazil.....and forwarding to everyone in my contact list It's very comforting to see that people care Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Usuario Universo Online" To: "CM-mcero Pestana" Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: U.S. CRISIS- YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED! > > > > WE CAN HELP! > > > > PLEASE READ: As networkers we all know the power of "word-of-mouth" and > the power of the internet. We can use this power to help stop terrorism > dead in it's tracks and bring the responsible parties to justice NOW! We > can also use this power to gather the resources (money, blood, food, > support) that are needed to aid the victims and their families. Fact is, > that everyone knows someone that could help. Fact is, that someone out > there knows some important information that could help authorities solve > these crimes and prevent further crimes. Even if you feel that you > personally can not help... you know people that know people. Take action > now. Let's show the world the power of networking!!! > > > > PLAN OF ACTION: 1. Forward this email out to your entire contact list. > (Please use the "bcc" section of Outlook as to not compromise your email > list....go to "view" and then check "all headers" in your email program) 2. > Urge all of them to take immediate similar action. 3. Read all of the > following information and determine how you can personally help. 4. Act > on it immediately! > > > > Good can and will overcome evil if we are each pro-active! > > > > I know that this simple action can and will make a difference. I'd like > to thank you all in advance for taking action, and showing the world that > each and every one of us can and will make a difference! Together we > STAND!!! > > > > Sincerely, > > Mark Ewing > > > > Emergency Contact Information: > > > > FBI Tip Website: > > - http://www.ifccfbi.gov > > > > American Red Cross, cash donations: > > - (800) HELP-NOW > > > > > > Army Personnel: > > - Army personnel assigned to the Pentagon asked to call 800-984-8523. > > > > > > Airlines: > > - Friends and family who wish to check on passengers and flights may > call: > > American Airlines, 1-800-245-0999. > > United Airlines, 1-800-932-8555. > > > > > > World Trade Center businesses: > > - Emergency number for Morgan Stanley: 1-888-883-4391. > > - Emergency number for Carr Futures: 1-800-755-7620. > > - Emergency number for Cantor Fitzgerald: 1-866-326-3188. > > Pentagon personnel: > > - Pentagon employees only are asked to check in by calling 1-877-663-6772. > > > > > > Justice Department > > - The Justice Department's Office of Victims of Crime has set up a phone > line to provide information to families about victims and about services for > survivors and their rights: 1-800-331-0075. > > > > > > Emergency response/relief Efforts: > > - The American Red Cross is in need of blood to replenish the nation's > supply. Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE to schedule an appointment near where you live. > > - The New York Blood Center has also announced a blood emergency for the > greater New York/New Jersey metropolitan area. Visit www.nybloodcenter.org > for more information on how to help. > > - For more information on helping victims of the U.S. attacks, visit > Helping.org > > - The United Way of New York and the New York Community Trust have > established a fund to help the victims of the attacks and their families. > The September Eleventh Fund will provide immediate support to established > emergency assistance agencies. Anyone wishing to contribute may send their > donations in care of United Way, 2 Park Ave, New York, New York, 10016 or > call: 212-251-4035. > > > > > > Donations are also being accepted on United Way of New York City's Web > site: http://www.uwnyc.org . > > - Donations are being accepted at Feed The Children. > > - Japanese language assistance for relatives is available at jhelp.com or > 1-800-527-2611. > > Salvation Army, cash donations: > > - (800) SAL-ARMY > > > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:45:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: Prediction To: DC Cycles Amen- this is the fourth or fifth variation I've seen. Don't people have better things to do in their lives? --- Jeannette wrote: > This is a hoax and has been refuted all across the > internet. > Beware what you read on the 'net. > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > --- Dustin Crabtree > wrote: > > I found this online... > > > > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous > > astrologer, thinker... > > > > > > In the city of God there will be a great > thunder, > > two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the > fortress > > endures, the great leader will succumb. "The > third > > big war will begin when the big city is burning." > > On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal > > birds would crash into two tall statues in the New > > City, and the world will end soon after. > > > > Nostradamus 1654' > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > > > "Your global rocketry resource..." > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Originating-IP: [134.113.230.75] From: "Paul Hutchins" To: Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Prediction Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:58:56 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Sep 2001 15:58:56.0972 (UTC) FILETIME=[FEA930C0:01C13C6C] Dustin, This "prophecy" has been kicked around for more than two days. It's total crap. Every hour it morphs - the early versions did not have the "11th. day of the 9th. month" in them. Nostradamus died ~ 100 years before this prophecy. Again, total crap. Stop sending it around. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dustin Crabtree" To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:25 AM Subject: Prediction > I found this online... > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous astrologer, thinker... > > > In the city of God there will be a great thunder, two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb. "The third big war will begin when the big city is burning." On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal birds would crash into two tall statues in the New City, and the world will end soon after. > > Nostradamus 1654' > > _____________________________________________________________ > Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > "Your global rocketry resource..." > _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "ROBERSON, Brian" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Check your facts before you post Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:10:29 -0400 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13C6E.9B6AEE70 Check out: http://www.urbanlegends.com/ This should go far to dispell a lot of crap that goes around. Brian ------_=_NextPart_001_01C13C6E.9B6AEE70 Check your facts before you post

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Brian

------_=_NextPart_001_01C13C6E.9B6AEE70-- _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Subject: Fundraiser RIDE! From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:22:11 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 09/13/2001 11:23:36 AM Bcc: James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX ----- Forwarded by James Itabashi/Person/World Bank on 09/13/2001 11:20 AM ----- "David Greene" , "Tom Gilmore" , ogies.net> "Skip Meszaros" , "Robert Mcclung" , "Patrick Chapman" , "Pam Toczylowski" , "Nancy Beams" 09/13/2001 11:04 AM , "Monty Ruckman" , "Mark Railey" Please respond to , "Mark D. Walker" , "Laura Aitken" dgreene , "Kris Mcdonough" , "Kenneth Stuckey" , "John Heinzelmann" , "Joe Boggs" , "Jimmy Itabashi" , "Jim Petreas" , "Jeff Boogaard" , "Jeb Boone" , "James Vitalos" , "Irving Greenberg" , "Hans Mumm" , "Ginger Mathenia" , "Felix Dowuona" , "Fawn Garrett" , "Edward Snyder" , "Edward Lewis Woodings" , "E. Tracy Lewis" , "Dennis Cail" , "Dawn Thomas" , "David Haskell" , "Dave Hall" , "Danny Vasquez" , "Dan Sturdivant" , "Bill Snider" , "Bill Leahy" cc: Subject: Fundraiser RIDE! Good morning to all and I hope all are well! Over the past 2 days I have been talking with several riders alike regarding a fund raiser ride to support those families immediately effected by the recent tragedies. I had a conversation with NOD from Rockville HD and he is willing to assist me in getting the word out. I will be speaking with Bernie Keller and the rest of the boys at Rockville HD this afternoon about speaking to all the other shops in the area. If we can get enough people (which I truly believe won't be a problem) I will set up a fund through my firm and accountant for the donations. If you are interested please email a reply and I will keep you posted on the development. Please pass the word along to EVERYONE no matter what state they live in. Thank you for your support and my best wishes and prayers go out to EVERYONE! Thanks & God Bless, David Greene Eureka Technologies, LLC 301-258-8823-office 301-258-8902-fax dgreene@XXXXXX _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Prediction To: Dustin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Please stop spreading that shit. What is the need for such pointless rumors. Do you have any proof that he really wrote that, or are you just blindly spreading it hundreds of people you don't know? --- Dustin Crabtree wrote: > I found this online... > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous > astrologer, thinker... > > > In the city of God there will be a great thunder, > two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress > endures, the great leader will succumb. "The third > big war will begin when the big city is burning." > On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal > birds would crash into two tall statues in the New > City, and the world will end soon after. > > Nostradamus 1654' > > _____________________________________________________________ > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > "Your global rocketry resource..." ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaS9AvQqRpqgYeU23XKYxhI+q/t1l74uo+laKFtXF1pHQZkSbwfMpSXqtdfTCWfs/0= X-Sender: ltrainpsu@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:34:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Subject: Re: Prediction Yes, this has been floating around the internet. Maybe someone should mention nostradamus died in the 1500's. At 08:25 AM 09/13/2001 -0700, you wrote: >I found this online... > > >Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous astrologer, thinker... > > > In the city of God there will be a great thunder, two brothers torn > apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will > succumb. "The third big war will begin when the big city is > burning." On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal birds would > crash into two tall statues in the New City, and the world will end soon after. > >Nostradamus 1654' > >_____________________________________________________________ >Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest >rocketry-oriented Internet information. > >"Your global rocketry resource..." _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:45:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: Prediction At 08:25 AM 9/13/2001 -0700, Dustin Crabtree wrote: >On the 11th. day of the 9th. month that two metal birds would crash into >two tall statues in the New City, "And on the eleventh day of the ninth month, two metal birds will depart the town of beans bound for the city of angels, but will instead crash into two great towers in the New City, oh around nine'ish, I should think..." >and the world will end soon after. Since it's all over anyway, can I have your motorcycle? People certainly seem to have a tremendous need to believe that someone has or had all the answers. I know that the terrorists knew they had it all figured out, or they couldn't have done this. There ain't no answer. There ain't going to be any answer. There never has been an answer. That's the answer. --Gertrude Stein /// Rob (amused, depressed, angry, all at once) _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:49:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Prediction At 11:58 AM 9/13/01, Paul Hutchins wrote: >Again, total crap. Stop sending it around. On this Nostradomaus thing - I used to have a video of an old Orson Wells / HBO special on his predictions. I recently tossed the tape. Near the end was a section on WW3, etc, and I do recall a quatraine that was similar in nature to the one being passed around. Yes - these things can be altered to say a lot of stuff, but it can be interesting just the same. Also - stop mailing out the flag and candle vigils. I am getting 5-6 copies an hour now. Oh - and the "Canadian Newspaper Editorial" was a speech given in 1973 by a man that died in 1984. Well intentioned mass mailings can be just as bad as spam. I will be rafting the Gauley this weekend and unable to go on any formal rides in support of the victims. I do hope many people show. Not sure how it would act as a fundraiser on such short notice, but any money raised will be used. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "I keep it in a quart jar in my desk." --Sen. Phil Gramm when asked if he had a heart. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:00:09 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Prediction At 12:45 PM 9/13/01, Rob Winters wrote: >There ain't no answer. >There ain't going to be any answer. >There never has been an answer. >That's the answer. >--Gertrude Stein In high school my 12th grade English teacher had us carry around a picture of Stein all year. She would do random checks. If we still had it at the end of the year, she gave us extra credit. She said that 'anyone that can carry around a picture of a woman that was very talented, and most likely one of the ugliest women alive, deserved extra credit.' Bizarre, but I never forgot it. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "I keep it in a quart jar in my desk." --Sen. Phil Gramm when asked if he had a heart. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: lantech To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FW: Candlelighting in US 7pm Friday Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:21:12 -0400 -----Original Message----- From: CHARMELLE.SKIPPINGS@XXXXXX [mailto:CHARMELLE.SKIPPINGS@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 12:48 PM To: (email addresses deleted) Candle Lighting-Please participate Friday Night at 7:00 p.m. step out your door, stop your car, or step out of your establishment and light a candle. We will show the world that Americans are strong and united together against terrorism. Please pass this to everyone on your e-mail list. We need to reach everyone across the United States quickly. The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE TERRORISM. We need press to cover this-- we need the world to see. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Larry , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Prediction Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:37:40 -0700 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8DHao622773 On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:34:35 -0400, you wrote: |> Yes, this has been floating around the internet. Maybe |>someone should mention nostradamus died in the 1500's. |> that is soo funny morons make up the lie, and go ahead and time stamp it, but dont' bother to check his life span and just make up a year to when it is attributed to him. hilarious! rotfl _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:45:12 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Nothing more need be said. To: Robert Beatty Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Accept-Language: en X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8DHmX623079 Robert Beatty wrote: > > Name: september11.jpg > september11.jpg Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg) > Encoding: base64 Eagles don't cry. Horkster -- Mandatory second line (Chatty Moron (tm)) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 81 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:16:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Motoport Canyon II To: DC Cycles Hi folks- I've been looking at purchasing a Motoport Canyon II jacket over the winter. Every place I see has it for $269. I looked at MAW and Dennis Kirk but neither carry it. The plaes that do carry it, all have the same price. I like this jacket due to it's all season versatility and pocket space. Is there another that's close in style and functionality, but cheaper? Any suggestions? __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 11:39:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Corbett B Subject: Re: Pentagon Flag Ride? To: DC Cycles I wouldn't mind participating, but I feel your efforts might be a little premature and add to the current congestion and confusion around the Pentagon. If you wanted a large show of support, it would probably take another week to get it organized. Best Wishes, whatever you decide to do. -Corbett --- Rob Curtis wrote: > How many folks would show up for a group ride > through DC and past the > Pentagon with American Flags waving from our bikes? > Say one evening this > week? If there are enough of us, it would be a > tremendous show of support > and heartening to the workers at the Pentagon. > We'd need to get flags and either secure them to our > bikes or have > passengers carry them. > How does this sound: anyone interested meet at the > Sears side of the > Landmark Mall, near the auto center Thursday at > 6:30, Flags ready. If folks > need more time, we could do it Friday night. Lemme > Know. I would suggest > that passing the Pentagon near sunset might heighten > the impact of our > gesture. > > Rob Curtis > Staff Photographer > Army Times Publishing Co. > Springfield, VA > > http://www.robcurtis.com > __________________ > Never be afraid to try something new; > remember, amateurs built the Ark, and > professionals built the Titanic. > __________________ > > ===== -Corbett '99 BMW K1200RS AMA Member BMW Motorcycle Owners Association Member __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: lantech To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: new york firefighters memorial fund Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:05:06 -0400 hi everyone--- please send this link to all of your friends/coworkers. if you follow the link you can donate online to the new york firefighters memorial fund. we should support our rescuers at a time like this. http://www.firedonations.com/ regards, patti _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:11:33 -0400 To: "Robert Beatty" , From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Nothing more need be said. At 10:47 AM 9/13/01, Robert Beatty wrote: > Nothing more need be said. > > sept11.jpg I don't know about anyone else, but the tear's not enough for me -- I want to see that eagle with talons extended, striking. -- Larry _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:13:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: new york firefighters memorial fund To: lantech , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" DO you know this is legit? There are many fake sites out there. --- lantech wrote: > hi everyone--- > > please send this link to all of your > friends/coworkers. if you follow the > link you can donate online to the new york > firefighters memorial fund. we > should support our rescuers at a time like this. > > http://www.firedonations.com/ > > > regards, > > patti ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: List of memorial services in the area Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:46:42 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 >From the Post web site. Memorial services for victims of the terrorist attacks include: Thursday, Sept. 13 District . National City Christian Church, 5 Thomas Circle, 6 p.m. 202-232-0323 . Union Temple Baptist Church, 1225 W St. SE, 7 p.m. 202-678-8822 . Nineteenth Street Baptist Church, 4606 16th St. NW, 7:30 p.m. 202-829-2773 Maryland . Potomac Village Shopping Center, interfaith vigil, 6:30 p.m. Virginia . Fairfax County Government Center, interfaith service, 6:30 p.m. . Eastern Virginia Medical School in Norfolk to hold a memorial service for the victims of the terrorist attacks. 5 p.m. Lewis Hall, main auditorium. . Temple Rodef Shalom, 2100 Westmoreland St., Falls Church, 7:30 p.m. 703-532-2217 Friday, Sept. 14 District . National City Christian Church, 5 Thomas Circle NW, noon. 202-232-0323 . Israel Metropolitan CME Church, 557 Randolph St. NW, 7 to 8:30 p.m. 301-838-7428 . Christ Church of Georgetown, 31st and O Streets NW, noon. 202-333-6677 . Metropolitan Memorial United Methodist Church, 3401 Nebraska Ave. NW, 7 p.m. 202-363-4900 . Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, 400 Michigan Ave. NE, noon. 202-526-8300 . Riverside Baptist Church and Word of God Faith Assembly Church, 680 I St. SW, 7 p.m. 202-554-4331 Maryland . War Memorial Plaza, 101 North Gay St., Baltimore, noon. Rev. Karen Brau, 410-276-5674 . Rockville Christina Church, 301 Adclaire Rd., Rockville, 12:15 to 12:45 p.m. 301-762-7744 Virginia . Saint Andrew's Episcopal Church, Military Road and Lorcom Lane, Arlington, noon. 703-522-1600 . Bull Run Unitarian Universalists Congregation, 9350 Main St., Manassas, 7:30 p.m. 703-361-6269 or 703-368-8076 Saturday, Sept. 15 Maryland . New Life Seventh-Day Adventist Church, 7412 Muncaster Mill Rd., Gaithersburg, 11 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. 301-854-0278 Sunday, Sept. 16 District . Washington National Cathedral, 3001 Wisconsin Ave. NW, 11 a.m. 202-537-6200 . Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception, 1400 Michigan Ave. NE, 12 noon to 1 p.m. 202-526-8300 . Washington Ethical Society, 7750 16th St. NW, 11 a.m. 202-882-6650 Virginia . Cathedral of St. More, 3901 Cathedral Ln., Arlington (corner of N. Glebe Rd. and Rte. 50), 9:30 a.m. 703-606-5617 Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:49:16 EDT Subject: Re: new york firefighters memorial fund To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 9/13/01 4:16:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lantech@XXXXXX writes: > please send this link to all of your friends/coworkers. if you follow the > link you can donate online to the new york firefighters memorial fund. we > should support our rescuers at a time like this. AOL is doing the same thing on the service and web sites I believe. Keener From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:33:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds1.osc.uscg.mil (cgds1.osc.uscg.mil [152.121.49.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJXOi00463 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex.comdt.uscg.mil by CGDS1.osc.uscg.mil with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:15:32 -0400 Received: by hqex.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:17:24 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Recall: dc-cycles digest for 09/13/01 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:15:45 -0400 Expiry-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:16:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Bruhl, George LT would like to recall the message, "dc-cycles digest for 09/13/01". From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:45:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJjQi00821 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:45:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s0023375282 ([12.78.122.147]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20010915001157.MDHX6924.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@s0023375282> for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:11:57 +0000 Message-ID: <001a01c13d7b$1a9db760$937a4e0c@s0023375282> Reply-To: "Jeremy Purdy" From: "Jeremy Purdy" To: Subject: RE: Fitting replacement for the WTC Towers Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 20:12:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C13D59.92A8BC40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C13D59.92A8BC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree. Only bigger, so they are the tallest buildings in the world = again... --- Jeremy Purdy '00 Yamaha V-Star - Jeade'en From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:14:46 EDT Subject: Fitting replacement for the WTC Towers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --part1_14d.f5138d.28d297e6_boundary 've seen a few articles talking about what they're going to do on the = WTC site after it's cleared off. Some have suggested building a memorial, = others suggested another building. My suggestion, get the original plans for the WTC towers, upgrade them = for the 21st century and rebuild the both of them right where they were. = What better way to show the resolve of the American people than to show that = what they can take down, we can rebuild. If they need a memorial, turn the = first floor into a memorial and let the rest take up the duties of the = previous building. 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I agree.  Only bigger, so they are = the tallest=20 buildings in the world again...
 
---
Jeremy Purdy
'00 Yamaha V-Star - = Jeade'en
 
From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:14:46 EDT
Subject: Fitting = replacement for=20 the WTC Towers
To:
dc-cycles@XXXXXX



--part1_14d.f5138d.28d297e6_boundary

've=20 seen a few articles talking about what they're going to do on the = WTC
site=20 after it's cleared off.  Some have suggested building a memorial,=20 others
suggested another building.

My suggestion, get the = original=20 plans for the WTC towers, upgrade them for
the 21st century and = rebuild the=20 both of them right where they were.  What
better way to show the = resolve=20 of the American people than to show that what
they can take down, we = can=20 rebuild.  If they need a memorial, turn the first
floor into a = memorial=20 and let the rest take up the duties of the = previous
building.

Just my=20 .02.

------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C13D59.92A8BC40-- From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 15:50:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FJoNi00961 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8EECXb11180 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:12:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:12:33 -0400 (EDT) From: X-X-Sender: Reply-To: To: DC Cycles Subject: Ride 4 Kids Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I deleted the msg, some listers are meeting at the Mobil across from Columbia mall at 8:30 prior to R4K? -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, morris@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL(DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C)#446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 16:00:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fulcrum ([204.70.128.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FK0Ii01157 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) id <0GJN00H01XA89H@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.ie.cw.net ([204.70.128.53]) by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) with ESMTP id <0GJN00EKWXA8ZV@XXXXXX>; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-gw.ie.cw.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:15:59 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:15:39 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: RE: Prediction To: "'laura granato'" , Dustin Crabtree , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC6806809CA@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Amen Laura! The guy was just trying to contribute something. A lot of us are in the IT field and see these things like this all of the time so are aware that hoaxes exist - but not everyone else in the world is. BTW, whether a person chooses to ascribe any legitimacy to Nostadamus or not (I don't) - it should be noted that there are enough believers/resources(books, videos)/information out there to make it a murky choice at best when deciding whether the guy was legit or not. Therefore a lot of people think this is serious and legit - enough people that they should be treated with a little respect for their opinions - whether you personally find them misguided or not. Also, for those who debunked the post - cite your sources, I don't have the time to dig through the Urban Legends site, so why not post a URL? Those who post crap without citations, are no more guilty then those who call it crap with no supporting documentation. I've seen the post on at least 4 different lists I belong to, that doesn't make it any less or more accurate then the "5 firefighters rescued from the collapse who were trapped inside a SUV from the day of the wreck" I heard about on 5 major media networks yesterday, to only find out later it was 2 firefighters who fell in a hole that same day and not the day of the crash. Let's see some data and sources either supporting or disproving things like this, not just insults. -Calvin Ledford -----Original Message----- From: laura granato [mailto:lgranato@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 7:07 PM To: Dustin Crabtree; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Prediction On Thursday 13 September 2001 11:25, Dustin Crabtree wrote: > I found this online... > > > Prediction by Nostradamus, the world famous astrologer, thinker... > > Ok, fellow listers...time to chill out. ok, so it's a hoax or whatever, but no need to bash this poor guy repeatedly. he thought it was interesting and was trying to share...that's all. I know everyone is stressed, but good lord, calm down. the first reply about it being a hoax was fine, but the crap after that was too much... Laura From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 16:09:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8FK9ji01356 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Sep 2001 23:43:04 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: NON Moto - for computer techies... Redux... Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:42:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3BA09085.7C440304@patriot.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Not to worry, Bill. I crashed my CBR a few years ago with a Thinkpad in my Tankbag. It got beaten around a bit and I was worried about it. I got it home, turned it on and it came right up. The Timex of the laptop world. LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner William J. Huson said: Now for the real world computer test! On Sep 20 I'll be blasting off for a much needed get-away-from-this-crazy-world motorcycle trip. The laptop will be in the Harley bag, shakin' and vibin'. Bill _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 16:12:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from omta03.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FKC7i01469 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:12:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta03.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07BF48F34 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 956DF36F9; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:32:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Crabtree To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Prediction Reply-To: Dustin@XXXXXX X-Originating-Ip: [66.44.62.9] Message-Id: <20010915123210.956DF36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> To all, Sorry it took so long to reply to the post I had sent, my email has been down. I found this "prediction" to be very disturbing and was unsure of the facts behind such a paragraph and thought nothing of posting it to share with others since it was posted on a "major" news BBS. I will go through my browser and find the correct link and forward it in my next email. Now to address the problem I have with the overwhelming feedback from some members on the list. If you think I started spreading this rumor/hoax/shit/or whatever else was said about this, "BITE ME!!!!!" Some people had seen this earlier in the week, I had not! The first reply I got telling me this was a hoax was only 1-2 minutes after I had sent it. So go grab a beer and chill. I know everyone is upset, and by all rights should be, WE HAVE BEEN ATTACKED!!!!!! WE ARE ALL IN PAIN. I am just as sick of this as many of you are. What makes me more sick of this is that my post got more replies than the person who wanted to do a ride of support around the Beltway or for that matter the "Ride 4 Kids!!!" Thats Fn' sad! In closing, My prayers are with the families and friends of all who passed this week. God help the Rescuers in their efforts to find any and all survivors. To the person who wanted to ride around 495, Let me know when and where. Dustin _____________________________________________________________ Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest rocketry-oriented Internet information. "Your global rocketry resource..." From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 16:21:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f127.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.127]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FKLmi01695 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:21:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 13:20:42 -0700 Received: from 64.111.16.2 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:20:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.111.16.2] From: "Rob Keiser" To: morris@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ride 4 Kids Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:20:41 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2001 20:20:42.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[E475AFE0:01C13E23] Yes, that is correct. From the original post, ..."the gas station (Mobil?) across the street from the Columbia Mall on Patuxent Rd. at 8:30." See everyone there! Rob '98 VFR800 (now with some Red/White/Blue) From: Reply-To: To: DC Cycles Subject: Ride 4 Kids Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:12:33 -0400 (EDT) I deleted the msg, some listers are meeting at the Mobil across from Columbia mall at 8:30 prior to R4K? -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, morris@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL(DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C)#446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 17:20:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.kivex.com ([204.177.32.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FLKJi02749 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 17:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kawgirl (kawgirl.kivex.com [208.213.150.18]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id OAA05392 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 14:08:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl Reply-To: "lisa@XXXXXX" To: dccycles Subject: Stolen Bike Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Stolen Bike! On Wed. night my friends' bike was stolen from her apartment complex lot parking in the Bethesda/Grosvenor area. Here's the details. Anyone with info can call her office voice mail at (301) 588-2130 Honda CBR 600 F2 Black with pink and purple on the fairings White rims new Mez 3 tires Yosh pipe. Safety wire stitching holding the front and right fairings together, aka "Frankenbike" She doesn't want a new bike, she just wants her dear Frankenbike back. Any help would be appreciated. Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 18:06:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from r2.boston.juno.com (r2.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.46]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FM62i03434 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by r2.boston.juno.com (8.8.6.Beta0/8.8.7/juno-1.2) with ESMTP id OAAAA09335 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUWOu1ENDYofbklQh7Sgv4lw=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GFD83Z5S; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:28:23 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 14:22:14 -0400 Subject: Information on Blood Donation Opportunities in Prince William County, VA Message-ID: <20010915.142432.-425689.9.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-6,8,10,12,14-19,21-24,26-28,30-35,37,39-47 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Forwarded from my County Supervisor's office. Tom Fitzpatrick --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "McGhee, Pamela J." Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 14:04:28 -0400 Subject: OCCOQUAN DISTRICT UPDATE We have received a number of requests for information on Blood Drives in our area. The Red Cross said there are huge waits at hospitals in Fairfax and Washington and they would suggest we give blood in our local area. Please keep in mind that the need will be just as great next week as it is today. Listed below is the information gathered on local drives. Saturday, Sept 15, 8:30 am to 12:00 pm, walk-in - St Paul's United Methodist, 14 G St, Woodbridge 703-643-0683 Saturday, Sept 15, USO, 1400 Eisenhower Circle - I have not been able to get any information on this drive or location but the Red Cross has it scheduled but no details Tuesday, Sept 18, 2:00pm to 8:00pm - Potomac Hospital - walk-in - do not call Friday, Sept 21, 8:00am to 5:00pm appointment only - McCoart Bldg, 1 County Complex Ct 703-792-6610 Saturday, Sept 22 7:30 am to 12:30 pm 1st United Presbyterian 14391 Minnieville, Woodbridge 703-670-7834 call or walk-in Saturday, Sept 22 7:30am to 11:30pm Grace United Methodist. Hendley Rd, Manassas (behind Wellington Giant) call Richard Eskelund 703-335-5190 for an appointment Monday, Sept 24 3:30pm to 7:30pm Bethel Lutheran, Plantation Lane, Manassas - walk-in 703-368-3973 Pam McGhee Assistant to Occoquan District Supervisor 703 792-4644 pmcghee@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 18:50:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FMo3i04223 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server ([66.61.183.98]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:03:28 -0400 Message-ID: <007801c13e32$315c3d20$62b73d42@cox.rr.com> From: "Guiseppi Milano" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 18:03:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C13E10.A9DCC020" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C13E10.A9DCC020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES This, from a Canadian newspaper, no less, is worth sharing. America: The Good Neighbor. Widespread but only partial news coverage was given recently to a remarkable editorial broadcast from Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian television commentator. What follows is the full text of his trenchant remarks as printed in the Congressional Record: "This Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least appreciated people on all the earth. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of these countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States. When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up, and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it. When earthquakes hit distant cities, it is the United States that hurries in to help. This spring, 59 American communities were flattened by tornadoes. Nobody helped. The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy pumped billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent, warmongering Americans. I'd like to see just one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplane. Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tri-Star, or the Douglas DC10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all the International lines except Russia fly American Planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or woman on the moon? You talk about Japanese technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy, and you find men on the moon - not once, but several times and safely home again. You talk about scandals, and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even their draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, and most of them, unless they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting American dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here. When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble. Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake. Our neighbors have faced it alone, and I'm one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them get kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one of those." Stand proud, America! ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C13E10.A9DCC020 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
TRIBUTE TO THE UNITED STATES

This, from a Canadian = newspaper, no=20 less, is worth sharing.


America: The Good = Neighbor.

Widespread=20 but only partial news coverage was given
recently to a remarkable = editorial=20 broadcast from
Toronto by Gordon Sinclair, a Canadian=20 television
commentator. What follows is the full text of = his
trenchant=20 remarks as printed in the Congressional
Record:

"This Canadian = thinks=20 it is time to speak up for the
 Americans as the most generous = and=20 possibly the least
 appreciated people on all the = earth.

Germany,=20 Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and
Italy were lifted out of = the=20 debris of war by the
Americans who poured in billions of dollars=20 and
forgave other billions in debts. None of these
countries is = today=20 paying even the interest on its
remaining debts to the United=20 States.

When France was in danger of collapsing in 1956, = it
was the=20 Americans who propped it up, and their reward
was to be insulted and = swindled=20 on the streets of
Paris. I was there. I saw it.

When = earthquakes hit=20 distant cities, it is the United
States that hurries in to help. This = spring,=20 59
American communities were flattened by tornadoes.
Nobody=20 helped.

The Marshall Plan and the Truman Policy = pumped
billions of=20 dollars into discouraged countries. Now
newspapers in those countries = are=20 writing about the
decadent, warmongering Americans.

I'd like = to see=20 just one of those countries that is
gloating over the erosion of the = United=20 States dollar
build its own airplane. Does any other country in = the
world=20 have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the
Lockheed Tri-Star, or = the=20 Douglas DC10? If so, why
don't they fly them? Why do all the=20 International
lines except Russia fly American Planes?

Why = does no=20 other land on earth even consider putting
a man or woman on the moon? = You=20 talk about Japanese
technocracy, and you get radios. You talk about=20 German
technocracy, and you get automobiles. You talk = about
American=20 technocracy, and you find men on the moon -
not once, but several = times and=20 safely home again.

You talk about scandals, and the Americans put = theirs
right in the store window for everybody to look at.
Even = their=20 draft-dodgers are not pursued and hounded.
They are here on our = streets, and=20 most of them, unless
they are breaking Canadian laws, are getting=20 American
dollars from ma and pa at home to spend here.

When = the=20 railways of France, Germany and India were
breaking down through age, = it was=20 the Americans who
rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and = the
New=20 York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an
old caboose. Both are = still=20 broke.

I can name you 5000 times when the Americans raced = to
the help=20 of other people in trouble. Can you name me
even one time when = someone else=20 raced to the Americans
in trouble? I don't think there was outside = help=20 even
during the San Francisco earthquake.

Our neighbors have = faced it=20 alone, and I'm one
Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them = get
kicked=20 around. They will come out of this thing with
their flag high. And = when they=20 do, they are entitled
to thumb their nose at the lands that are=20 gloating
over their present troubles. I hope Canada is not one
of=20 those."

Stand proud, America!
------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C13E10.A9DCC020-- From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 19:48:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FNmMi05126 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:48:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA00094 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:48:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp010.mail.yahoo.com (smtp010.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.30]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA10768 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj892909-c.alex1.va.home.com (HELO cliffzig) (65.9.63.233) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2001 23:48:19 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <004201c13e49$797303c0$0201a8c0@HOME> From: "Cliff Zigmond" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" References: Subject: Looking for computer parts warehouse (non moto) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:49:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I am searching for a good computer parts store in the Northern VA area, preferably near Alexandria. A big place with everything from motherboards to modems and everything in between. Maybe some telecommunications stuff too. Anyone know of a place like that? cliff '93 CB750 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 19:53:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8FNrFi05213 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:53:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.com ([24.37.104.4]) by femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010915235258.XLMH21340.femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX> for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:52:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3BA3E9E5.B1EC6F6C@home.com> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:53:10 -0400 From: "Steven C. Di Pietro" Organization: Suzuki Owners Club USA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: U.S.A., U.S.A., U.S.A.,U.S.A.! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Miami Herald > Leonard J Pitts, "Living Section" columnist > Published Wednesday, September 12, 2001 > > "We'll go forward from this moment" > > It's my job to have something to say. > > They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which troubles > the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting > disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that > seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this suffering. > > You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard. > > What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our World > Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would learn? > Whatever it was, please know that you failed. > > Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause. > > Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve. > > Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together. > > Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family, a > family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family > nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous > emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a > ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the > ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of > that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We > are fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We > struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming > majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God. > > Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us weak. > You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot > be measured by arsenals. > > IN PAIN > > Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're still > grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to > make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some > Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy novel. > Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final > death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of > terrorism in the history of the United States and, probably, the history of > the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before. > > But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us > fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last > time anyone hit us this hard, the last time anyone brought us such abrupt > and monumental pain. When roused, we are righteous in our outrage, terrible > in our force. When provoked by this level of barbarism, we will bear any > suffering, pay any cost, go to any length, in the pursuit of justice. > > I tell you this without fear of contradiction. I know my people, as you, I > think, do not. What I know reassures me. It also causes me to tremble with > dread of the future. > > In the days to come, there will be recrimination and accusation, fingers > pointing to determine whose failure allowed this to happen and what can be > done to prevent it from happening again. There will be heightened security, > misguided talk of revoking basic freedoms. We'll go forward from this > moment sobered, chastened, sad. But determined, too. Unimaginably > determined. > > THE STEEL IN US > > You see, the steel in us is not always readily apparent. That aspect of our > character is seldom understood by people who don't know us well. On this > day, the family's bickering is put on hold. > > As Americans we will weep, as Americans we will mourn, and as Americans, we > will rise in defense of all that we cherish. > > So I ask again: What was it you hoped to teach us? It occurs to me that > maybe you just wanted us to know the depths of your hatred. If that's the > case, consider the message received. And take this message in exchange: You > don't know my people. You don't know what we're capable of. You don't know > what you just started. > > But you're about to learn. > > http://www.miami.com/herald/content/features/columnists/pitts/digdocs/000565.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Steven C. Di Pietro Assistant National Director National Marketing Coordinator Suzuki Owners Club USA 142 Circle Road Pasadena Md. 21122-6036 http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 20:12:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8G0CP000484 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server ([66.61.183.98]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:12:24 -0400 Message-ID: <00bf01c13e44$3444b1e0$62b73d42@cox.rr.com> From: "Guiseppi Milano" To: "DC Cycles" References: <004201c13e49$797303c0$0201a8c0@HOME> Subject: Re: Looking for computer parts warehouse (non moto) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:11:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2479.0006 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2479.0006 Pratical Computers on Port Royal Road in Springfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Zigmond" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: Looking for computer parts warehouse (non moto) > I am searching for a good computer parts store in the Northern VA area, > preferably near Alexandria. A big place with everything from motherboards > to modems and everything in between. Maybe some telecommunications stuff > too. Anyone know of a place like that? > > cliff > '93 CB750 > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 21:35:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8G1Zf001832 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:35:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 17:28:55 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: It makes my blood boil Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:27:26 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 21:41:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8G1Zf001832 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:35:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Sep 2001 17:28:55 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: It makes my blood boil Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 13:27:26 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 22:58:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8G2wTf01528 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA00632 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f100.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA13183 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:58:11 -0700 Received: from 64.111.16.83 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 02:58:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.111.16.83] From: "Rob Keiser" To: cliffzig@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Looking for computer parts warehouse (non moto) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 22:58:10 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2001 02:58:11.0093 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B949450:01C13E5B] Cliff, My current computer was built from parts here: Advanced2000 822 South Pickett Street Alexandria, VA 22304 Phone: 703-370-7520 Fax: 703-370-6285 http://www.advanced2000.com/ Hope this helps. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Cliff Zigmond" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: Looking for computer parts warehouse (non moto) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 19:49:39 -0500 I am searching for a good computer parts store in the Northern VA area, preferably near Alexandria. A big place with everything from motherboards to modems and everything in between. Maybe some telecommunications stuff too. Anyone know of a place like that? cliff '93 CB750 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 23:01:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8G31Ff01601 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA00648 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA13243 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:01:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8G30un20555; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:00:56 -0400 From: Brian Roach Reply-To: roach@XXXXXX To: "Cliff Zigmond" , "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: Re: Looking for computer parts warehouse (non moto) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:01:26 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <004201c13e49$797303c0$0201a8c0@HOME> In-Reply-To: <004201c13e49$797303c0$0201a8c0@HOME> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091523012600.14258@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Saturday 15 September 2001 20:49, Cliff Zigmond wrote: > I am searching for a good computer parts store in the Northern VA area, > preferably near Alexandria. A big place with everything from motherboards > to modems and everything in between. Maybe some telecommunications stuff > too. Anyone know of a place like that? Advanced 2000 on Pickett St in Alexandria (west end, off Van Dorn St)... I've been going there for years and they've always been great. Check their website at www.advanced2000.com - Roach From dc-cycles-request Sat Sep 15 23:40:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8G3dsf02166 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-180-66.s66.tnt3.war.va.dialup.rcn.com ([207.172.180.66] helo=dtscomputer) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15iSmV-0001w5-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:39:43 -0400 Message-ID: <012201c13e61$178c3920$42b4accf@dtscomputer> From: "Danny Thompson" To: References: Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:38:45 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I am sad to say that this type of rhetoric is difficult for me (and many) as a Christian. I am so thankful for Christ and a believer in His salvation and God's wonderful, amazing grace. Please do not bunch all Christians in with these two, or the religious right for that matter. Just a thought... Danny '98 VTR '01 Shadow Tourer '99 SV (race bike) battered for now... Novice #903 www.onewayracing.org Sponsored by: Shen Valley Trailers: www.shenvalleywarrenton.com, toll free @ 888-743-6825 Blalock Cycle: www.blalockcycle.com, 540-347-4591 ----- Original Message ----- From: LindaT. To: DC-CYCLES Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: It makes my blood boil > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html > > LindaT. snip... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/6/01 From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 03:58:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8G7wwf06235 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-180-66.s66.tnt3.war.va.dialup.rcn.com ([207.172.180.66] helo=dtscomputer) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15iWoo-0003ih-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:58:22 -0400 Message-ID: <013c01c13e85$39423fa0$42b4accf@dtscomputer> From: "Danny Thompson" To: References: <20010916051208.23047.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:57:24 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I have no doubt that God is in control and has His hand on all that happens or that He allows to happen. I do believe that our country / society as a whole has lost its way, but God loves all of us equally. Singling (sp?) out certain sinners over the rest of us sinners is not really very helpful. It would have made more sense to me for them to have simply said that OUR turning away from God and OUR sin brings God's wrath, destruction, anger, etc. Of course it is also the whole wonderful point of God's grace and love! :) Kind of seems like the ole "moat -vs- splinter" or "Judge not that ye not be judged" thing to me. I'm not arguing with you or preaching, just sharing some thoughts. What do you think? Danny '98 VTR '01 Shadow Tourer '99 SV (race bike) battered for now... Novice #903 www.onewayracing.org Sponsored by: Shen Valley Trailers: www.shenvalleywarrenton.com, toll free @ 888-743-6825 Blalock Cycle: www.blalockcycle.com, 540-347-4591 > I agree it was a bit of a far-reaching swipe at > political opponents but God does use seemingly > unrelated events and catastrophies to bring His people > back to him. Their statements aren't all that > far-fetched, really. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.277 / Virus Database: 146 - Release Date: 9/7/01 From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 09:04:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GD4Rf10385 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:04:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-24.patriot.net [209.249.181.24]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8GD4P216903; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:04:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3BA4A1E3.DBAF56B7@patriot.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 08:58:11 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Danny Thompson CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil References: <20010916051208.23047.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> <013c01c13e85$39423fa0$42b4accf@dtscomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What do I think? well... Danny Thompson wrote: > I have no doubt that God is in control and has His hand on all that happens > or that He allows to happen. If this was true, then *god* needs a serious attitude adjustment. > I do believe that our country / society as a whole has lost its way, but God > loves all of us equally. Partly true. Our country/society was well on the way to becoming a safe, secular society where folks from all demographic groups could enjoy real freedom and be protected equally under the law. Then along came the fundies... > Singling (sp?) out certain sinners over the rest of us sinners is not really > very helpful. But this is EXACTLY what Falwell, Pobertson, and all other god-soaked fundies are doing - singling out demographic groups and preaching HATE. > It would have made more sense to me for them to have simply said that OUR > turning away from God and OUR sin brings God's wrath, destruction, anger, > etc. Of course it is also the whole wonderful point of God's grace and love! You lost me here - god's grace and love is wrath, destruction, anger...??? And folks wonder why I refuse to claim allegience to an organized religion. Bill - peace and love, brother From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 09:26:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9606.mail.yahoo.com (web9606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.185]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8GDQZf10660 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010916132629.68211.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [151.200.16.190] by web9606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:26:29 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 06:26:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil To: "William J. Huson" , Danny Thompson Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3BA4A1E3.DBAF56B7@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > You lost me here - god's grace and love is wrath, > destruction, anger...??? And > folks wonder why I refuse to claim allegience to an > organized religion. > > Bill - peace and love, brother And unfortunately, allegiance to certain "religions" is what leads to this type of destruction. :-( All done in the name of "God." Give me paganism any day! Harm none, its main tenet. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 09:52:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GDqlf11094 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUpoHdwNbczjm/oIkt2mxh/g=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GFGBNWDH; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:52:08 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:33:33 -0400 Subject: Flag Sources Message-ID: <20010916.094822.-402197.0.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,4-5 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Paper representation of a flag on page A52 of today's Washington Post. For motorcycle use, if someone could scan a flag to letter size and post it to a web site, it could be printed out in color and then laminated with plastic sheets available at Staples or other office supply stores. Tom From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 09:52:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GDqtf11103 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:52:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUpoHdwNbczjl+CcbFCFRf6g=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GFGBNWGT; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:52:08 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:45:58 -0400 Subject: Gathering, Red Cross Support at Final Summit MC Race Message-ID: <20010916.094822.-402197.1.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,5-6,12-13,19-20,22-25 From: Tom Fitzpatrick The final motorcycle race at Summit Point this year is on the weekend of October 13-14. A "Rally in the Valley" in support of the Red Cross at this time would allow enough time to spread the word, find sponsors, schedule rides to Summit, and work with charities. My thinking is that we flood every e-mail list, all our friends, all the dealerships, all of the manufacturers, all the clubs (BMWBMW, HOG Chapters) with information on this "informal" event. We let the Red Cross know what we are planning, and invite representatives to accept donations. Ask Senator Ben Nighthorse Campbell to participate. And so on. I say informal, because I would not want this to be strangled or limited by one point of view, and, frankly, I do not know of a single organization that could orchestrate and take responsibility (insurance, etc.) for an organized event. So, it must be a gathering of friends, old and new, in a common bond. It should be respectful, law abiding and as quiet as possible (i.e., no hooligan riding). So, I'll be there. I'll be announcing that weekend, and Celtic Racing will donate its announcing fee to the Red Cross. Ideas please. Tom Fitzpatrick From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 10:25:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GEPdf11568 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA02437 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA23188 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj892909-c.alex1.va.home.com (HELO cliffzig) (65.9.63.233) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Sep 2001 14:25:35 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <003301c13ec4$0626c200$0201a8c0@HOME> From: "Cliff Zigmond" To: , "DC-Cycles Mailing" References: <004201c13e49$797303c0$0201a8c0@HOME> <01091523012600.14258@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Subject: Re: Looking for computer parts warehouse (non moto) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:26:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I have had overwhelming recommendations for Advanced 2000. Thanks for the suggestions. Any ideas of their operating hours? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Roach" To: "Cliff Zigmond" ; "DC-Cycles Mailing" Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:01 PM Subject: Re: Looking for computer parts warehouse (non moto) > On Saturday 15 September 2001 20:49, Cliff Zigmond wrote: > > I am searching for a good computer parts store in the Northern VA area, > > preferably near Alexandria. A big place with everything from motherboards > > to modems and everything in between. Maybe some telecommunications stuff > > too. Anyone know of a place like that? > > Advanced 2000 on Pickett St in Alexandria (west end, off Van Dorn St)... I've > been going there for years and they've always been great. Check their website > at www.advanced2000.com > > - Roach _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 10:31:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp010pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.189]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GEVRf11709 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net (pool-151-200-19-35.res.east.verizon.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp010pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id f8GEWRr03994 Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:32:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010916102130.00b33320@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:32:31 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil In-Reply-To: <013c01c13e85$39423fa0$42b4accf@dtscomputer> References: <20010916051208.23047.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:57 AM 9/16/01, you wrote: >I have no doubt that God is in control and has His hand on all that happens >or that He allows to happen. If you ever take courses in philosophy and comparative religion, you'll find that one of the main arguments for the seemingly contradictory existence of an omnipresent, omnipotent god and evil is the principle of benign neglect -- that such a god does not, in fact, control any factors of earthly life. >I do believe that our country / society as a >whole has lost its way, but God loves all of us equally. If we've lost our way, I would say that the main mistake we've made is allowing the existence of corporations and allowing them influence beyond that held by their constituents (stockholders). They kind of give the lie to "one man, one vote." >Singling (sp?) out >certain sinners over the rest of us sinners is not really very helpful. Then how do we know where to aim? >I'm not arguing with you or preaching, just sharing some thoughts. What do >you think? I'm an atheist, but my SO is a devout Episcopalian (def.: Catholic lite -- all the dogma, but only half the guilt). Fortunately for me, she practices the principles of tolerance that so many religious affiliants only preach, which helps moderate my views. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 10:33:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp010pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.189]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GEXRf11727 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net (pool-151-200-19-35.res.east.verizon.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp010pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id f8GEYPr04695 Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:34:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010916103316.00ae5490@mailbox.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 10:34:29 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_173545656==_.ALT" --=====================_173545656==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:57 AM 9/16/01, someone wrote: If you ever take courses in philosophy and comparative religion, .... Except at Bob Jones University, of course. -- Larry --=====================_173545656==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
At 03:57 AM 9/16/01, someone wrote:
If you ever take courses in philosophy and comparative religion, ....

Except at Bob Jones University, of course.

-- Larry


--=====================_173545656==_.ALT-- From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 11:22:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GFMuf12591 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-113-169.s423.tnt8.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.113.169] helo=66.44.113.169) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15idkz-0003lT-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:22:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3BA4C4AF.6327@starpower.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:26:39 -0400 From: Paul Wilson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-SP32599 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil References: <012201c13e61$178c3920$42b4accf@dtscomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Danny Thompson wrote: > > I am sad to say that this type of rhetoric is difficult for me (and many) as > a Christian. I am so thankful for Christ and a believer in His salvation and > God's wonderful, amazing grace. Please do not bunch all Christians in with > these two, or the religious right for that matter. For what it's worth, our priest read the riot act from the pulpit today (and on Friday to shouts of "Amen" from the congregation) on their comments. I suggest Falwell and Robertson go back and read their bibles a little more closely. May their followers be moved to repudiate them and withhold monetary support. Deny them the things of this world (i.e. money and power) that they crave so much that they're willing to engage in tawdry scapegoating of the meanest sort. Paul in DC From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 15:10:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (m1.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.64]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GJA6f15888 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"uoyE9tvlmSM0oHP0t1pnQyx0fE50QNHp+h0tpbXF265c8w4hdAIjnQ=="> Received: (from tgroghan@XXXXXX) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GFGVUPAW; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:09:52 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:53:25 -0400 Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: <20010916.150700.-537725.2.tgroghan@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Thad B Groghan unsubscribe ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 16:18:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GKIgf16895 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gt350 ([63.94.223.120]) by smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJRV3001.PI6; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:18:36 -0400 Message-ID: <002301c13eec$a2f5b460$78df5e3f@prestige.net> Reply-To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "William J. Huson" , "Danny Thompson" Cc: References: <20010916051208.23047.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> <013c01c13e85$39423fa0$42b4accf@dtscomputer> <3BA4A1E3.DBAF56B7@patriot.net> Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:17:40 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 As a Christian I believe that God has not been overjoyed with the direction our country has headed in during the past twenty years. Certainly, if we are honest with ourselves, we must admit that the moral compass that originally guided the United States has been disgarded, discounted or depreciated by many. This is especially true for those in many areas of the entertainment industry. Morality seems to have become politcally incorrect and socially unpalatable. The "live and let live" credo adopted by many can have negative ramifications. Our actions and core beliefs really do make a difference. However, I do not agree with the statements made by Mr. Falwell and Mr. Robertson. All of us have sinned and we will continue to sin, and I guess you could argue that we all must accept some responsibility for the current state of the world and the events of the past week. How many of us have really given our best effort to follow the tenets of our beliefs, be they Christian, Islamic, Buddhist, etc., day in and day out? God gave us free will, and if it is not exercised properly pain and suffering may be felt by innocent people. That is the price of free will. Accepting Christ as one's saviour and entering into a direct relationship with God is also an option that free will permits. It is a personal choice and decision. I thank God for the fact that as Americans we have been blessed to live in a country where we can really express our true beliefs. Hopefully we can continue with that noble tradition without fear of retaliation. God bless America. Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 18:04:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f40.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8GM4Xf18481 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:04:20 -0700 Received: from 64.111.16.81 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:04:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.111.16.81] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ride4Kids... Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:04:19 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2001 22:04:20.0100 (UTC) FILETIME=[891A4C40:01C13EFB] It was a beautiful day. To ride. To reflect. To observe. I was proud to be just one bike in a field of 785 bikes today to participate in the 10th Annual Ride4Kids event in Columbia, MD today benefiting the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation. Registration started at 8:00 AM at Columbia Mall and we headed out on a lovely ~45 mile loop around the area at 10:00 AM. Cages stopped in the other lane to honk and wave. People stopped riding their bikes, cutting their lawns to just sit and watch all of us pass with our flags flying proud. As far as the eye could see, there were bikes. Through my windshield. In my mirrors. Nothing but bikes and flags. Aside from hearing some of the child survivors of brain tumors at the closing ceremonies, the most touching moment for me was when an older gentleman stopped his car on the side of the road, got out, stood proud and gave a firm and determined salute to all of us. My eyes still swell with emotion when I think about him. (Thank you, sir) At the end of the ride, there were brown bag lunches, refreshments, and a shade filled tent for us to relax under and hear about our accomplishment. We raised over $173,000 for the cause today! Another proud moment, to say the least. I was happy to meet/see a number of DC Cycle folk there; as well as a former fellow DC Aids Ride 6 Moto-Crew member. The volunteers were so cheerful and appreciative. All the bikes were beautiful. (Especially the rider with the Parrot on his shoulder. What a stunning bird.) And finally, the participants were amazing. No matter what anyone rode, this was a day for the kids, and to show our pride. Congratulations all. Mission Accomplished! Rob '98 VFR800 PS. I'll bring some pictures to the next Bike Night. (9/23 at Carpool) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 19:52:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11205.mail.yahoo.com (web11205.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.187]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8GNqXf20200 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010916235219.21297.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.24.208.142] by web11205.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:52:19 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:52:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: RE: Prediction To: Dustin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010915032210.3B52B36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Alright a-hole, let me tell you about the Ride 4 Kids you think was worth flames. Over 700 bikes met at Columbia Mall in support of the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation of the U.S. I don't know how you can compare that to a stupid Nostradamus hoax. Over $100k was raised including over $37k from Bob's BMW. Every single bike had at least one American flag on it. We snaked through Howard, PG, and Montgomery County on a 45 mile ride. EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE coming in the opposite direction stopped in honor of what they saw. Most honked, waved or both. People stood out on their lawns and waved in support. One gentleman stood there and saluted as 700 bikes rolled by. Flat out amazing. I have never been so impressed by people in my life. About 7-8 DC Cyclers met and rode over together. We were a small bunch of a huge group that I am VERY PROUD to be a part of. Take your Nostradamus and shove it. Matt --- Dustin Crabtree wrote: > To all, > > Sorry it took so long to reply to the post I had > sent, my email has been down. > > I found this "prediction" to be very disturbing > and was unsure of the facts behind such a paragraph > and thought nothing of posting it to share with > others since it was posted on a "major" news BBS. I > will go through my browser and find the correct link > and forward it in my next email. > > Now to address the problem I have with the > overwhelming feedback from some members on the list. > > > If you think I started spreading this > rumor/hoax/shit/or whatever else was said about > this, "BITE ME!!!!!" Some people had seen this > earlier in the week, I had not! The first reply I > got telling me this was a hoax was only 1-2 minutes > after I had sent it. So go grab a beer and chill. > I know everyone is upset, and by all rights should > be, WE HAVE BEEN ATTACKED!!!!!! WE ARE ALL IN PAIN. > I am just as sick of this as many of you are. What > makes me more sick of this is that my post got more > replies than the person who wanted to do a ride of > support around the Beltway or for that matter the > "Ride 4 Kids!!!" Thats Fn' sad! > > In closing, > > My prayers are with the families and friends of > all who passed this week. God help the Rescuers in > their efforts to find any and all survivors. > > To the person who wanted to ride around 495, Let > me know when and where. > > Dustin > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > "Your global rocketry resource..." __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 20:04:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11202.mail.yahoo.com (web11202.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.184]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8H04Mf20358 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010917000412.23929.qmail@web11202.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.24.208.142] by web11202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:04:12 PDT Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:04:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: Ride4Kids... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Rob could not have said it any better. The gentleman that saluted made my year. Matt GS500e --- Rob Keiser wrote: > It was a beautiful day. To ride. To reflect. To > observe. > > I was proud to be just one bike in a field of 785 > bikes today to participate > in the 10th Annual Ride4Kids event in Columbia, MD > today benefiting the > Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation. > > Registration started at 8:00 AM at Columbia Mall and > we headed out on a > lovely ~45 mile loop around the area at 10:00 AM. > > Cages stopped in the other lane to honk and wave. > People stopped riding > their bikes, cutting their lawns to just sit and > watch all of us pass with > our flags flying proud. > > As far as the eye could see, there were bikes. > Through my windshield. In > my mirrors. Nothing but bikes and flags. > > Aside from hearing some of the child survivors of > brain tumors at the > closing ceremonies, the most touching moment for me > was when an older > gentleman stopped his car on the side of the road, > got out, stood proud and > gave a firm and determined salute to all of us. My > eyes still swell with > emotion when I think about him. (Thank you, sir) > > At the end of the ride, there were brown bag > lunches, refreshments, and a > shade filled tent for us to relax under and hear > about our accomplishment. > We raised over $173,000 for the cause today! > Another proud moment, to say > the least. > > I was happy to meet/see a number of DC Cycle folk > there; as well as a former > fellow DC Aids Ride 6 Moto-Crew member. The > volunteers were so cheerful and > appreciative. All the bikes were beautiful. > (Especially the rider with the > Parrot on his shoulder. What a stunning bird.) And > finally, the > participants were amazing. No matter what anyone > rode, this was a day for > the kids, and to show our pride. > > Congratulations all. Mission Accomplished! > > Rob > '98 VFR800 > > PS. I'll bring some pictures to the next Bike > Night. (9/23 at Carpool) > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 20:25:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay3.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8H0Ovf20659 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.100.2] ([216.174.54.139]) by smtprelay3.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GJS6HD03.BH3; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:24:49 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:24:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Prediction From: Randy or Julie Moran To: Matthew Rosenstock , , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010916235219.21297.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 9.16.2001 7:52 PM, Matthew Rosenstock at m_rosenstock@XXXXXX posted: > Alright a-hole, let me tell you about the Ride 4 Kids > you think was worth flames. in reply to something Dustin Crabtree posted: >What makes me more sick of this is that my post got more replies >than the person who wanted to do a ride of support around the Beltway or >for that matter the "Ride 4 Kids!!!" Thats Fn' sad! To which I say there is no reason to be calling Dustin an a-hole. I'm pretty sure he meant that he was surprised/bummed that people seemed to spend more energy bashing him for unknowingly submitting a hoax to the list for discussion, than they spent saying that they would participate in a good cause. He wasn't suggesting that the Ride 4 Kids should be flamed. I could be wrong. RPM From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 22:37:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8H2baf22900 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA04467 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA02843 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CJ144294A (A040-0620.MLE2.splitrock.net [64.198.132.112]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f8H2bCa149194 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:37:12 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing" Subject: Not a cloud in the sky... Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:37:12 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Chris Weaver and I headed out for a ride today, just to get away from our TV's and all the news for a bit. What a beautiful day! We ended up weaving through Arlington, up into Md before we found road closings and construction blocking our path. Undaunted, we headed south, to Clifton, VA, and had to get around the hoards of rubber-neckers gawking (rightfully) at the Pentagon while causing a backup. Once we made it past them, smooth sailing all the way to the winding back roads of lower Fairfax County. We stopped to top of and grab something to drink, and as we sat in the parking lot of a gas station remarking on the near perfect weather and the cloudless sky, a Jumbo jet passed over, slow and ominous. It was an eerie feeling. Point is, that even on a perfect day, at every turn it seemed the attack against our nation usurped our attempt to put it from our minds for just an afternoon. Rob Curtis Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ Never be afraid to try something new; remember, amateurs built the Ark, and professionals built the Titanic. __________________ From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 22:47:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.188]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8H2lCf23103 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net (pool-151-200-19-35.res.east.verizon.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp009pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id f8H2lF209454 Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:47:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010916224342.00ae2e40@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:46:40 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: Prediction In-Reply-To: <20010916235219.21297.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010915032210.3B52B36F9@sitemail.everyone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:52 PM 9/16/01, you wrote: >Alright a-hole, let me tell you about the Ride 4 Kids >you think was worth flames. I think that he was making the same point about relative merit, Matt. He wasn't suggesting the Ride 4 Kids should be flamed, the way I read it. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Sun Sep 16 23:48:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f143.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.143]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8H3m6f23996 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:48:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:36:14 -0700 Received: from 65.196.175.7 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 03:36:14 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.196.175.7] From: "Razz Man" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:36:14 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Sep 2001 03:36:14.0807 (UTC) FILETIME=[E7316E70:01C13F29] Very well said Roy..... Razz '99 ZX9R '89 LTD454 '86 LTD454 www.conflictedinterest.com >From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." Reply-To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "William J. >Huson" , "Danny Thompson" CC: Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil Date: >Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:17:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from >[216.27.137.7] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBD6E57F400694004315AD81B89070B450; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:35:09 -0700 >Received: from smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net >[64.8.20.11])by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id >f8GKIgf16895for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:18:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from >gt350 ([63.94.223.120]) by smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging >Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJRV3001.PI6; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:18:36 -0400 >From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun, 16 Sep 2001 13:35:16 -0700 >Message-ID: <002301c13eec$a2f5b460$78df5e3f@XXXXXX> References: ><20010916051208.23047.qmail@XXXXXX> ><013c01c13e85$39423fa0$42b4accf@dtscomputer> ><3BA4A1E3.DBAF56B7@XXXXXX> Organization: Attorney at Law X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express >6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > >As a Christian I believe that God has not been overjoyed with the direction >our country has headed in during the past twenty years. Certainly, if we >are honest with ourselves, we must admit that the moral compass that >originally guided the United States has been disgarded, discounted or >depreciated by many. This is especially true for those in many areas of the >entertainment industry. Morality seems to have become politcally incorrect >and socially unpalatable. The "live and let live" credo adopted by many can >have negative ramifications. Our actions and core beliefs really do make a >difference. > >However, I do not agree with the statements made by Mr. Falwell and Mr. >Robertson. All of us have sinned and we will continue to sin, and I guess >you could argue that we all must accept some responsibility for the current >state of the world and the events of the past week. How many of us have >really given our best effort to follow the tenets of our beliefs, be they >Christian, Islamic, Buddhist, etc., day in and day out? > >God gave us free will, and if it is not exercised properly pain and >suffering may be felt by innocent people. That is the price of free will. >Accepting Christ as one's saviour and entering into a direct relationship >with God is also an option that free will permits. It is a personal choice >and decision. > >I thank God for the fact that as Americans we have been blessed to live in >a country where we can really express our true beliefs. Hopefully we can >continue with that noble tradition without fear of retaliation. > >God bless America. > >Roy D. Turner, Esq. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 07:14:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10501.mail.yahoo.com (web10501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8HBE1f00804 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010917111400.43368.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.94.49.51] by web10501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 04:14:00 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 04:14:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: RE: Prediction To: Matthew Rosenstock , Dustin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010916235219.21297.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Matt, I think you owe Dustin an apology. Sounds like you mis-read his post. He was stating that it was sad that his Nostradamus thread got more replies than the "Ride 4 Kids" post. He made no disparaging remarks towards the ride. He even offered to ride also I believe. Todd W. ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 08:28:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HCS7f02005 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fuchsia [207.231.76.88] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AC49E5FD0118; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 05:27:53 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: From: lantech.cwd@XXXXXX Subject: for sale Message-Id: <170901260.19674@206.137.174.10> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 05:28:07 -0700 With winter coming and time to think about clearing out the carport, I have a wonderful old "beater" for sale. It is an '82 Yamaha Maxim 400, black, that desparately needs to have its carbs cleaned (I have been trapped in a neverending drywall project at my house and have neglected it). APart from that it runs fine, I suppose the battery wants a charge too... it has a custom seat and a lot of the parts were either replaced or overhauled last summer. Yes I have neglected it but some TLC will bring it back; I rode it for 3 years with no problems. At any rate, it's a great first bike for someone as it's indestructible and it is also nice enough looking to prevent being laughed at but not so nice that someone will want to steal it. Plus I only want $400.00 for it (because you really have to have the carbs cleaned before it will go). If you're interested or know anyone who is please email to lantech.cwd@XXXXXX. I love it but (obviously) haven't had the time to care for it... if you're not too concerned about looks then this is one great little bike! -patti ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 09:02:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HD2Jf02533 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-65-52.s306.tnt6.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.65.52] helo=c9rnf01) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15iy2T-0005ga-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:02:18 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c13f78$7f321aa0$34412c42@c9rnf01> From: "Todd Peer" To: References: <200109162300.f8GN00T19340@dirty.meretrix.com> Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:58:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 When did this become the "GOD" channel? Falwell and Robertson are idiots. Always have been. What's new? One thing that hasn't been pointed out is that people like these two idiots are nearly as guilty as the Islamic leaders that foster hate and intolerance to the point of destruction. For instance, abortion clinics. Go ahead and worship and love your God, but cut the crap about how we as a country need to accept some of the blame for last weeks horrible scenario. Put the blame where it belongs, on the criminals and their supporters who perpetrated this shit. When I hear BS like "God gave us free will, and if it is not exercised properly pain and suffering may be felt by innocent people. That is the price of free will." I just want to scream, "Get a CLUE!" MC Content: I rode down to the Pentagon on Saturday. I smelled it before I saw it. What a terrible scene. Todd (Springfield, VA) From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 09:07:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9608.mail.yahoo.com (web9608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.187]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8HD7Bf02610 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010917130707.94296.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:07:07 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:07:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: I Want My Bike Back! :( To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000401c13f78$7f321aa0$34412c42@c9rnf01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Everyone needs to bother my husband to fix my bike. ;-) No, I don't wrench on my own bike. He keeps saying, "Let's go for a ride" and I look at him like he's crazy 'cause I don't want to ride pillion!!! :p FIX MY DAMN BIKE!!! LOL Just trying to lighten the list up a bit and make it MC related! :-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 09:17:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from adonis.nswc.navy.mil (adonis.nswc.navy.mil [198.91.70.30]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HDHjf02757 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay2.nswc.navy.mil (relay2.nswc.navy.mil [128.38.1.42]) by adonis.nswc.navy.mil (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8HDHUO05431 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay2.nswc.navy.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay2.nswc.navy.mil (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00396 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlvais01.nswc.navy.mil (dlvais01.nswc.navy.mil [128.38.1.20]) by relay2.nswc.navy.mil (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00389 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlvais01.nswc.navy.mil (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dlvais01.nswc.navy.mil with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id S447X0L6; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:17:28 -0400 Received: from 128.38.204.28 by dlvais01.nswc.navy.mil (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:17:28 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: by nswcdlvaex01.nswc.navy.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:17:27 -0400 Message-ID: <7B4C28C84831D211BFA200805F9F345603B3CDBF@nswcdlvaex04.nswc.navy.mil> From: Gaske David G DLVA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I Want My Bike Back! :( -- things to make you smile Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:17:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You'll have to remind us, what is wrong with it? Better yet, what ever it is. Pull the plugs, call yourself and say: Yeah, we got the plugs out, looks like the engine is shot, probably gonna need a new rear tire too. We're thinking about 4 weeks of work to R&R the engine, another week for the tire and my mechanic thinks you'll need new glow plugs. We already started on it, so you gonna have to pay!! Then send everyone on the list 5 bucks. For even more entertainment, call all the area Trak Auto's in the area and ask for NGK spark plugs for a Dodge Cummins Diesels (Diesels don't have spark plugs). It's a hoot. David "Lost Dawg" Gaske '00 Sprint RS (yellow) Fredericksburg, Va. USA www.triumphnet.com/rs/ -----Original Message----- From: Jeannette [mailto:gingerdc9@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:07 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: I Want My Bike Back! :( Everyone needs to bother my husband to fix my bike. ;-) No, I don't wrench on my own bike. He keeps saying, "Let's go for a ride" and I look at him like he's crazy 'cause I don't want to ride pillion!!! :p FIX MY DAMN BIKE!!! LOL Just trying to lighten the list up a bit and make it MC related! :-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 09:25:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HDPYf02866 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id JAA23829 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:25:23 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <000f01c14045$827fa8d0$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" References: <200109162300.f8GN00T19340@dirty.meretrix.com> <000401c13f78$7f321aa0$34412c42@c9rnf01> Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:26:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 It is kind of interesting that this becomes the "God" channel when a couple of messages relating to peoples faith, etc. are written, even at a time of crisis in America, but there is no problem to talk about guns, or political views, or other non-motorcycle items ad nosium (sp?)... hmm? I apologize for responding to the original comment about Falwell and Robertson and getting this thread going, since it is not motorcycle related. MC content: I want to upgrade the suspension on my Superhawk; I know what to do to the front, but am looking for any suggestions about rear, this is for street use and I'm a little fat. :) Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Peer To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:58 AM Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil > When did this become the "GOD" channel? > > Falwell and Robertson are idiots. Always have been. What's new? > > One thing that hasn't been pointed out is that people like these two idiots > are nearly as guilty as the Islamic leaders that foster hate and intolerance > to the point of destruction. For instance, abortion clinics. > > Go ahead and worship and love your God, but cut the crap about how we as a > country need to accept some of the blame for last weeks horrible scenario. > Put the blame where it belongs, on the criminals and their supporters who > perpetrated this shit. > > When I hear BS like "God gave us free will, and if it is not exercised > properly pain and suffering may be felt by innocent people. That is the > price of free will." I just want to scream, "Get a CLUE!" > > MC Content: I rode down to the Pentagon on Saturday. I smelled it before I > saw it. What a terrible scene. > > Todd (Springfield, VA) > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.280 / Virus Database: 147 - Release Date: 9/11/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 09:26:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HDQcf02876 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:26:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AA07891700F2; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:26:31 -0700 To: toddbpeer@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "patti rodgers" Subject: RE: Re: It makes my blood boil Message-Id: <170901260.23191@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:26:38 -0700 Todd wrote: >MC Content: I rode down to the Pentagon on Saturday. I smelled it before I >saw it. What a terrible scene. > > I have a friend who is at the scene with Arlington County Search and Rescue; he says every time he blows his nose he ends up with a tissue full of charcoal... That's gross, I know but it also shows just how terrible it is! -patti From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 09:27:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HDR8f02948 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id JAA25015 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:27:08 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <001501c14045$c0f705e0$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" References: <7B4C28C84831D211BFA200805F9F345603B3CDBF@nswcdlvaex04.nswc.navy.mil> Subject: Re: I Want My Bike Back! :( -- things to make you smile Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:28:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Come on Tom... fix her bike already! Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education ----- Original Message ----- From: Gaske David G DLVA To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:17 AM Subject: RE: I Want My Bike Back! :( -- things to make you smile > You'll have to remind us, what is wrong with it? > > Better yet, what ever it is. Pull the plugs, call yourself and say: > Yeah, we got the plugs out, looks like the engine is shot, probably gonna > need a new rear tire too. We're thinking about 4 weeks of work to R&R the > engine, another week for the tire and my mechanic thinks you'll need new > glow plugs. We already started on it, so you gonna have to pay!! > > Then send everyone on the list 5 bucks. > > For even more entertainment, call all the area Trak Auto's in the area and > ask for NGK spark plugs for a Dodge Cummins Diesels (Diesels don't have > spark plugs). It's a hoot. > > David "Lost Dawg" Gaske > '00 Sprint RS (yellow) > Fredericksburg, Va. USA > www.triumphnet.com/rs/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette [mailto:gingerdc9@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:07 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: I Want My Bike Back! :( > > > Everyone needs to bother my husband to fix my bike. > ;-) > No, I don't wrench on my own bike. > He keeps saying, "Let's go for a ride" and I look at > him like he's crazy 'cause I don't want to ride > pillion!!! :p > > FIX MY DAMN BIKE!!! LOL > > Just trying to lighten the list up a bit and make it > MC related! :-) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.280 / Virus Database: 147 - Release Date: 9/11/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 09:48:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13802.mail.yahoo.com (web13802.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.12]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8HDmbf03324 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010917134826.17488.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13802.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:48:26 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:48:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil To: Danny Thompson , "D.C. Cycles" In-Reply-To: <000f01c14045$827fa8d0$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Danny, Continue to talk about anything you want to. It doesn't bother most of us. Mark --- Danny Thompson wrote: > It is kind of interesting that this becomes the > "God" channel when a couple > of messages relating to peoples faith, etc. are > written, even at a time of > crisis in America, but there is no problem to talk > about guns, or political > views, or other non-motorcycle items ad nosium > (sp?)... hmm? > I apologize for responding to the original comment > about Falwell and > Robertson and getting this thread going, since it is > not motorcycle related. > MC content: I want to upgrade the suspension on my > Superhawk; I know what to > do to the front, but am looking for any suggestions > about rear, this is for > street use and I'm a little fat. :) > Danny Thompson > Liberty High School Technology Education > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Todd Peer > To: > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:58 AM > Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil > > > > When did this become the "GOD" channel? > > > > Falwell and Robertson are idiots. Always have > been. What's new? > > > > One thing that hasn't been pointed out is that > people like these two > idiots > > are nearly as guilty as the Islamic leaders that > foster hate and > intolerance > > to the point of destruction. For instance, > abortion clinics. > > > > Go ahead and worship and love your God, but cut > the crap about how we as a > > country need to accept some of the blame for last > weeks horrible scenario. > > Put the blame where it belongs, on the criminals > and their supporters who > > perpetrated this shit. > > > > When I hear BS like "God gave us free will, and if > it is not exercised > > properly pain and suffering may be felt by > innocent people. That is the > > price of free will." I just want to scream, "Get > a CLUE!" > > > > MC Content: I rode down to the Pentagon on > Saturday. I smelled it before > I > > saw it. What a terrible scene. > > > > Todd (Springfield, VA) > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.280 / Virus Database: 147 - Release > Date: 9/11/01 > ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 09:59:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from kiri.meretrix.com (dsl027-137-008.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.8]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HDxbf03541 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kiri.meretrix.com (harry@localhost) by kiri.meretrix.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8HDxfL01125 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:59:41 -0400 Message-Id: <200109171359.f8HDxfL01125@kiri.meretrix.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:48:26 PDT." <20010917134826.17488.qmail@XXXXXX> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <1123.1000735181.1@XXXXXX> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 09:59:41 -0400 From: harry@XXXXXX >Continue to talk about anything you want to. It >doesn't bother most of us. Lest there be any confusion, this isn't a "talk about anything you want to" mailing list, it is a motorcycling mailing list. The only religious issues that should be discussed on the list pertain to helmet laws and Harleys. -harry From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 10:02:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9603.mail.yahoo.com (web9603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.182]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8HE2mf03616 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010917140237.24551.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:02:37 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:02:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: RE: I Want My Bike Back! :( -- things to make you smile To: Gaske David G DLVA , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <7B4C28C84831D211BFA200805F9F345603B3CDBF@nswcdlvaex04.nswc.navy.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's leaking gas BAD, and Tom said it's something to do with the carbs. So I guess some carb work is in his future... FUN FUN FUN!!! ;-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Gaske David G DLVA wrote: > You'll have to remind us, what is wrong with it? > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 10:05:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HE5If03708 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:05:20 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E74B@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: RE: I Want My Bike Back! :( -- things to make you smile Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:05:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" While standing line at Barnes in Noble with a good friend trying to talk about anything but "the news" I looked down at the rack and saw a dizzying array of "Chicken Soup for the yada-yada" books and I asked the clerk if they had "Chicken Soup for the Vegetarian Soul". He didn't get it. Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 Annandale, VA For even more entertainment, call all the area Trak Auto's in the area and ask for NGK spark plugs for a Dodge Cummins Diesels (Diesels don't have spark plugs). It's a hoot. David "Lost Dawg" Gaske '00 Sprint RS (yellow) Fredericksburg, Va. USA www.triumphnet.com/rs/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 10:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from omta05.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HERwf04078 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta05.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856CE4869F for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id D71BC2756; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:27:46 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.41 (Entity 5.404) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:27:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Dustin Crabtree To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Prediction Reply-To: Dustin@XXXXXX X-Originating-Ip: [66.44.58.142] Message-Id: <20010917142746.D71BC2756@sitemail.everyone.net> Matt, The statement I made is a very simple one. It's sad that people like yourself would rather waste time and effort to reply to what everyone agrees is a hoax. If you want to make this personal I will be happy to take this off-line as to not bother anyone else. So let me know, Dustin --- Matthew Rosenstock > wrote: >Alright a-hole, let me tell you about the Ride 4 Kids >you think was worth flames. > >Over 700 bikes met at Columbia Mall in support of the >Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation of the U.S. I don't >know how you can compare that to a stupid Nostradamus >hoax. > >Over $100k was raised including over $37k from Bob's >BMW. > >Every single bike had at least one American flag on >it. We snaked through Howard, PG, and Montgomery >County on a 45 mile ride. EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE coming >in the opposite direction stopped in honor of what >they saw. Most honked, waved or both. People stood out >on their lawns and waved in support. One gentleman >stood there and saluted as 700 bikes rolled by. Flat >out amazing. I have never been so impressed by people >in my life. > >About 7-8 DC Cyclers met and rode over together. We >were a small bunch of a huge group that I am VERY >PROUD to be a part of. Take your Nostradamus and shove >it. > >Matt > >--- Dustin Crabtree wrote: >> To all, >> >> Sorry it took so long to reply to the post I had >> sent, my email has been down. >> >> I found this "prediction" to be very disturbing >> and was unsure of the facts behind such a paragraph >> and thought nothing of posting it to share with >> others since it was posted on a "major" news BBS. I >> will go through my browser and find the correct link >> and forward it in my next email. >> >> Now to address the problem I have with the >> overwhelming feedback from some members on the list. >> >> >> If you think I started spreading this >> rumor/hoax/shit/or whatever else was said about >> this, "BITE ME!!!!!" Some people had seen this >> earlier in the week, I had not! The first reply I >> got telling me this was a hoax was only 1-2 minutes >> after I had sent it. So go grab a beer and chill. >> I know everyone is upset, and by all rights should >> be, WE HAVE BEEN ATTACKED!!!!!! WE ARE ALL IN PAIN. >> I am just as sick of this as many of you are. What >> makes me more sick of this is that my post got more >> replies than the person who wanted to do a ride of >> support around the Beltway or for that matter the >> "Ride 4 Kids!!!" Thats Fn' sad! >> >> In closing, >> >> My prayers are with the families and friends of >> all who passed this week. God help the Rescuers in >> their efforts to find any and all survivors. >> >> To the person who wanted to ride around 495, Let >> me know when and where. >> >> Dustin >> >> >> >_____________________________________________________________ >> Visit "Rocketry Online" at >> http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest >> rocketry-oriented Internet information. >> >> "Your global rocketry resource..." > > >__________________________________________________ >Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? >Donate cash, emergency relief information >http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _____________________________________________________________ Visit "Rocketry Online" at http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest rocketry-oriented Internet information. "Your global rocketry resource..." From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 10:35:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HEZTf04216 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AA1DAFDA00BA; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:35:09 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: From: "patti rodgers" Subject: harley davidson stock Message-Id: <170901260.27310@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 07:35:29 -0700 hey folks--- harley stock is down now about $4.00/share, which is about 10%...like everything else it is probably going to go lower... could be a good time to make some money! the symbol is HDI. -patti From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 12:30:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HGU8f06183 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:30:02 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E74E@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: FW: Speed Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:30:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm not sure if this was cross-posted already or not, but I found it interesting. Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 Annandale, VA For those of you with broadband, download this speeding bullet. He video taped himself passing a cop at 173 mph and then running away. Copy the URL and paste it into your browser. The movie is 15 Mb. 64.62.54.43/adult_cdn/01048ABAAMgAAAAkDV0Y76hdzgA99yM0e5YwhIFVHw4wP1.vCltKHJ Y2ycQGMjo.pJHBSJ_s5rR3m/cj_5377.wmv From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 13:10:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HHAtf06820 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id o.15d.11dcb3d (15857); Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:10:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web45.aolmail.aol.com (web45.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.6]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID58-0917131042; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:10:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:10:42 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Flag Sources To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <15d.11dcb3d.28d78893@aol.com> Actually, I was up in PA this weekend and the Staples up there was already doing this. I think they were selling them for a buck. Scooter In a message dated Sun, 16 Sep 2001 9:58:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Tom Fitzpatrick writes: > Paper representation of a flag on page A52 of today's Washington Post. > > For motorcycle use, if someone could scan a flag to letter size and post > it to a web site, it could be printed out in color and then laminated > with plastic sheets available at Staples or other office supply stores. > > Tom From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 13:34:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HHYbf07182 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.13c.184e179 (16089); Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web41.aolmail.aol.com (web41.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.2]) by air-id10.mx.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID106-0917133402; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:34:02 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:34:02 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I Want My Bike Back! :( To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <13c.184e179.28d78e0a@aol.com> Hey Tom, FIX HER DAMN BIKE ALREADY. Geessshhhhh!!!!!!! ;-) Jeannette, I wouldn't want to ride pillion with him either. LOL Scooter In a message dated Mon, 17 Sep 2001 9:09:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jeannette writes: > Everyone needs to bother my husband to fix my bike. > ;-) > No, I don't wrench on my own bike. > He keeps saying, "Let's go for a ride" and I look at > him like he's crazy 'cause I don't want to ride > pillion!!! :p > > FIX MY DAMN BIKE!!! LOL > > Just trying to lighten the list up a bit and make it > MC related! :-) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 13:36:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HHaaf07260 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id y.c0.1ace8442 (15702); Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web49.aolmail.aol.com (web49.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.10]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID53-0917133624; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:36:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:36:23 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I Want My Bike Back! :( -- things to make you smile To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: That's just CRUEL!!! I'll have to find a copy and give it to my vegetarian friend. hehe Scooter In a message dated Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:06:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Cedric Bernescut writes: > While standing line at Barnes in Noble with a good friend trying to talk > about anything but "the news" I looked down at the rack and saw a dizzying > array of "Chicken Soup for the yada-yada" books and I asked the clerk if > they had "Chicken Soup for the Vegetarian Soul". > He didn't get it. > Cedric > 1996 CBR600F3 > Annandale, VA > > > > For even more entertainment, call all the area Trak Auto's in the area and > ask for NGK spark plugs for a Dodge Cummins Diesels (Diesels don't have > spark plugs). It's a hoot. > > David "Lost Dawg" Gaske > '00 Sprint RS (yellow) > Fredericksburg, Va. USA > www.triumphnet.com/rs/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 13:40:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HHe7f07291 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:38:28 -0400 Message-Id: <200109171338.AA14025158@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Flag on web X-Mailer: Flag on web: http://www.docflash.com/flag.jpg Also, Conspicuity, Inc., in Elgin, Illinois used to make a reflective USA flag sticker about 3 in x 5 in. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 14:01:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HI1df07719 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:01:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AA78216010C; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:01:28 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: From: "patti rodgers" Subject: RE: Flag on web Message-Id: <170901260.39689@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:01:39 -0700 There is a flag store in Falls Church, rte. 7 near where the Montgomery Ward used to be. I was there Thursday but pickin's were slim; the owner said they were getting a new shipment of everything on Monday. I think the place is called the American Flag Shop? It's in the mini mall there, near the Spanish restaurant and the dollar store. -patti >--- Original Message --- >From: "Chris Norloff" >To: >Date: 9/17/01 1:38:28 PM > > >Flag on web: >http://www.docflash.com/flag.jpg > > >Also, Conspicuity, Inc., in Elgin, Illinois used to make a reflective USA flag sticker about 3 in x 5 in. > >Chris Norloff > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 14:13:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HID9f07891 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.38]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GJT00K94JPE1T@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:08:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GJT00E01JOWXV@XXXXXX>; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:08:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GJT00E7HJOJ0P@XXXXXX>; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:07:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:06:43 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: FW: Speed To: Cedric Bernescut Cc: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Message-id: <3BA63BB3.43EE4E36@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Accept-Language: en References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E74E@NCEAEXCHANGE> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8HIDIf07892 Cedric Bernescut wrote: > > I'm not sure if this was cross-posted already or not, but I found it > interesting. Did that bike sound a little bit "off" to you folks? Maybe it was just problems with his mic or something... Then again, never had a bike that fast, maybe they all do that... Hork -- Mandatory second line (Chatty Moron M-^Y) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 81 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 14:24:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mergelane.i95.net (mergelane.i95.net [205.177.164.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HIOTf08070 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.pire.org ([209.8.96.35]) by mergelane.i95.net (8.9.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA28185 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Gateway-Message_Server by mail.pire.org with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:20:08 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.4 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:19:42 -0400 From: "mcfocusgroup" To: Subject: Motorcycle Research Revisited. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8HIOUf08071 Hi, This is Scott McKnight again. I posted here a couple weeks ago (at the suggestion of Lisa Goddard) about a research study we're doing for the US Department of Transportation. Motorcyclists can make $50 by participating in our research study. So far we have about half the spots filled. The focus groups will take place during the afternoon and evening of September 24th and 25th. Here's more information: We are the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation (PIRE). We have a history of motorcycle safety research going back to our founding 25 years ago. Currently we are conducting a project for the US Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) to hold a series of Focus Groups with motorcyclists to discuss issues related to motorcycle riding and alcohol. We are hoping to involve male riders of all backgrounds, ages and ethnic groups. Participants in this study will receive $50, plus a meal, to meet with us in our offices in Calverton MD (just north of the intersection of the DC Beltway and Rt. 95) for approximately 90 minutes. If you think you might be interested, or know someone who might be, please contact me by phone at 301 755-2785. Thank you, Scott McKnight Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation Motorcycle Focus Group Project 301 755-2785 From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 14:26:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pandora.gtsi.com (gateway.gtsi.com [192.254.22.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HIQ6f08084 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:26:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exch2.corp.gtsi.com (exch2.gtsi.com [192.254.20.203]) by pandora.gtsi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8HILdd19113 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exch2.gtsi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:15:56 -0400 Message-ID: <23607C0BFEAAD211B8B80008C79A0ADA03516624@exchgreen.gtsi.com> From: Phil Simerly To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Flag on web Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:18:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I already had about a half dozen us flags but FYI there is a flag store in Potomac mills shopping center if anyone is interested. Don't know if they have any, sorry. > -----Original Message----- > From: patti rodgers [mailto:lantech.cwd@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:02 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Flag on web > > > > There is a flag store in Falls Church, rte. 7 near where the > Montgomery Ward used to be. I was there Thursday but pickin's > were slim; the owner said they were getting a new shipment of > everything on Monday. I think the place is called the American > Flag Shop? It's in the mini mall there, near the Spanish restaurant > and the dollar store. > > -patti > > > > > >--- Original Message --- > >From: "Chris Norloff" > >To: > >Date: 9/17/01 1:38:28 PM > > > > > > >Flag on web: > >http://www.docflash.com/flag.jpg > > > > > >Also, Conspicuity, Inc., in Elgin, Illinois used to make a reflective > USA flag sticker about 3 in x 5 in. > > > >Chris Norloff > > > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 14:27:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HIRqf08156 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:27:51 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E74F@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Flag on web Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:27:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I called them on Saturday after having no luck with Wal-Mart, four Home Depots, K-Mart, Fischer's Hardware, CVS, Abe Lincoln flags and two banner shops. After about 20 rings I got a volunteer, apparently they were so busy they had a friend on the phone and he couldn't quote prices. I decided to go down there and when I got there I couldn't believe it, line out the door, across the balcony, down the stairs around the building and across the parking lot. Seeing as the wife is 8 months pregnant and can't stand for than a few minutes, waiting was not an option. According to Home Depot they have a shipment for all their Northern Virginia stores coming in on Wednesday, so I'll have to wait until then. Cedric -----Original Message----- From: patti rodgers [mailto:lantech.cwd@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:02 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Flag on web There is a flag store in Falls Church, rte. 7 near where the Montgomery Ward used to be. I was there Thursday but pickin's were slim; the owner said they were getting a new shipment of everything on Monday. I think the place is called the American Flag Shop? It's in the mini mall there, near the Spanish restaurant and the dollar store. -patti >--- Original Message --- >From: "Chris Norloff" >To: >Date: 9/17/01 1:38:28 PM > > >Flag on web: >http://www.docflash.com/flag.jpg > > >Also, Conspicuity, Inc., in Elgin, Illinois used to make a reflective USA flag sticker about 3 in x 5 in. > >Chris Norloff > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 14:30:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fulcrum ([204.70.128.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HIUWf08244 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) id <0GJT00301KQGRN@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.ie.cw.net ([204.70.128.53]) by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) with ESMTP id <0GJT0029JKQGPH@XXXXXX>; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:30:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-gw.ie.cw.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:30:33 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 14:30:09 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: RE: Prediction To: "'Matthew Rosenstock'" , Dustin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC6806809CE@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Matt, It looks a lot like you are the real A-hole - you should seriously consider a public apology for inability to read, seriously jumping the gun, and an unnecessary flame... It's pretty clear to me and several other posters that Dustin was supporting the ride for kids, not bashing it. Everybody's on edge right now - it might be a good idea for us all to read twice before bashing/flaming. -Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 7:52 PM To: Dustin@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Prediction Alright a-hole, let me tell you about the Ride 4 Kids you think was worth flames. Over 700 bikes met at Columbia Mall in support of the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation of the U.S. I don't know how you can compare that to a stupid Nostradamus hoax. Over $100k was raised including over $37k from Bob's BMW. Every single bike had at least one American flag on it. We snaked through Howard, PG, and Montgomery County on a 45 mile ride. EVERY SINGLE VEHICLE coming in the opposite direction stopped in honor of what they saw. Most honked, waved or both. People stood out on their lawns and waved in support. One gentleman stood there and saluted as 700 bikes rolled by. Flat out amazing. I have never been so impressed by people in my life. About 7-8 DC Cyclers met and rode over together. We were a small bunch of a huge group that I am VERY PROUD to be a part of. Take your Nostradamus and shove it. Matt --- Dustin Crabtree wrote: > To all, > > Sorry it took so long to reply to the post I had > sent, my email has been down. > > I found this "prediction" to be very disturbing > and was unsure of the facts behind such a paragraph > and thought nothing of posting it to share with > others since it was posted on a "major" news BBS. I > will go through my browser and find the correct link > and forward it in my next email. > > Now to address the problem I have with the > overwhelming feedback from some members on the list. > > > If you think I started spreading this > rumor/hoax/shit/or whatever else was said about > this, "BITE ME!!!!!" Some people had seen this > earlier in the week, I had not! The first reply I > got telling me this was a hoax was only 1-2 minutes > after I had sent it. So go grab a beer and chill. > I know everyone is upset, and by all rights should > be, WE HAVE BEEN ATTACKED!!!!!! WE ARE ALL IN PAIN. > I am just as sick of this as many of you are. What > makes me more sick of this is that my post got more > replies than the person who wanted to do a ride of > support around the Beltway or for that matter the > "Ride 4 Kids!!!" Thats Fn' sad! > > In closing, > > My prayers are with the families and friends of > all who passed this week. God help the Rescuers in > their efforts to find any and all survivors. > > To the person who wanted to ride around 495, Let > me know when and where. > > Dustin > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Visit "Rocketry Online" at > http://www.RocketryOnline.com for the latest > rocketry-oriented Internet information. > > "Your global rocketry resource..." __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 15:44:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.kivex.com (smtp-out.kivex.com [204.177.32.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HJiDf09366 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:44:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kawgirl (kawgirl.kivex.com [208.213.150.18]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id PAA17137 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:44:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl To: dccycles Subject: bike stolen! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Last Wed. night my friends' bike was stolen from her apartment complex lot parking in the Bethesda/Grosvenor area. Here's the details. Anyone with info can call her office voice mail at (301) 588-2130 Honda CBR 600 F2 Black with pink and purple on the fairings White rims new Mez 3 tires Yosh pipe. Safety wire stitching holding the front and right fairings together, aka "Frankenbike" She doesn't want a new bike, she just wants her dear Frankenbike back. Any help would be appreciated. Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 16:14:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HKE4f09875 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-73.patriot.net [209.249.181.73]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8HKDx215905 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:13:59 -0400 Message-ID: <3BA65810.2897E888@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:07:44 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Spam... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, non-moto fer sure. Actting as executor of an estate has kept me busy - now the grand estate sale is over, just have to get the house fixed up and ready to sell. But... Seems there's a few items left. One large bedroom dresser, I'd call it dark oak, must be six feet long, and it's practically new and pristine. And it's FREE!!! Yeppers, bring a vehical and a couple studly' guys (or gals) to cart it and it's your's. First come, first carry, located in Annandale. Call me fer appointment 703-256-3115. Also have a Howard Miller grandfather clock but that'll cost ya... And a pair of free standing gas stoves (faarplaces), never installed, just sitting there... Bill Huson From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 17:46:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtppop1pub.verizon.net (smtppop1pub.gte.net [206.46.170.20]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HLkUf11524 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net (pool-151-200-19-35.res.east.verizon.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtppop1pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id QAA2498835 Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:46:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010917172932.00a99430@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:46:20 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil In-Reply-To: <200109171359.f8HDxfL01125@kiri.meretrix.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:59 AM 9/17/01, harry wrote: >Lest there be any confusion, this isn't a "talk about anything >you want to" mailing list, it is a motorcycling mailing list. >The only religious issues that should be discussed on the list >pertain to helmet laws and Harleys. Well, then, here's some official MC content: I wish Jerry Falwell, wearing a half-helmet, would ride a Harley head-on into a massive boulder. How's that? Three turds with one stone. 8;p (and, in case anyone hasn't seen this one yet: http://www.xhost.org/images/newdesign.jpg ~80KB) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 18:08:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.ezy.net (smtp.ezy.net [216.231.128.29]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HM8Sf11937 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer (s429.intercom.net [208.236.173.167]) by smtp.ezy.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f8HMBNG03807 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200109172211.f8HMBNG03807@smtp.ezy.net> From: Hahaha Subject: Snowhite and the Seven Dwarfs - The REAL story! 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ----VE5I3CTAVOL-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 19:01:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HN0xf12954 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8HN0rn27720; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:00:53 -0400 From: laura granato To: "Ledford, Calvin" , "'Matthew Rosenstock'" , Dustin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Prediction Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:01:18 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC6806809CE@resie03.ie.cw.net> In-Reply-To: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC6806809CE@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0109171901180M.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 17 September 2001 14:30, Ledford, Calvin wrote: > Matt, > > It looks a lot like you are the real A-hole - In Matt's defense, he is a very nice guy. He may have been acting like an A-hole, but he's not. And neither is Dustin...just a week full of tension. Let's just chalk it up to that. Laura From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 19:19:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2 (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8HNJSf13309 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:19:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p26.a3.du.radix.net [207.192.130.26]) by pop2 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA15245 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:19:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: Subject: RE: Prediction Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:23:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01c13fcf$d854c9a0$1a82c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0109171901180M.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> > It looks a lot like you are the real A-hole - In Matt's defense, he is a very nice guy. He may have been acting like an A-hole, but he's not. And neither is Dustin...just a week full of tension. Let's just chalk it up to that. Group hug ? ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 22:20:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11208.mail.yahoo.com (web11208.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.190]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8I2K6f16355 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 22:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010918021955.39560.qmail@web11208.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.24.208.232] by web11208.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:19:55 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:19:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: RE: Prediction To: Dustin@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010917111400.43368.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My humblest apologies. I mis read what Dustin stated in the e-mail. When I saw the beginning, it got me fired up after a rather emotional day. Matt --- Todd Withrow wrote: > Hey Matt, > > I think you owe Dustin an apology. Sounds like you > mis-read his post. He was stating that it was sad > that > his Nostradamus thread got more replies than the > "Ride > 4 Kids" post. He made no disparaging remarks towards > the ride. He even offered to ride also I believe. > > Todd W. > > > > ===== > AIM: Inf DS > > http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now > society wants to childproof the world. > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Sep 17 23:46:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8I3kBf17602 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA11164 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprelay2.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA10281 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d478406837 ([216.174.23.32]) by smtprelay2.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJUAG200.N1B; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:45:38 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" , "Dccycles2" Subject: To those who attended Cycle Sport Day on September 10 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:45:11 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <001601c13c32$205bc100$d4a61718@alex1.va.home.com> Importance: Normal I have over 250 photos from Cycle Sport Day. I would post them but I don't have the bandwidth nor the server space. What I may do is put them on CD. I will proved it for the cost of shipping and a blank CD, mailer, etc. Probably $2 or so if anyone is interested. Gary Foreman, TL Owners Club mailto:gary@XXXXXX TL Owners Club: http://www.tl1000.com TL Owners Board: http://server5.ezboard.com/btlownersboard TL Message Board: http://www.voy.com/14718/ Yahoo TL Pit: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tl1000pit From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 08:14:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8ICEHf25260 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 2.7f.1a50ef6b (4592) for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:14:09 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <7f.1a50ef6b.28d89490@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:14:08 EDT Subject: Re: Motorcycle Research Revisited. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/17/2001 2:30:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcfocusgroup@XXXXXX writes: > We are hoping to involve male riders of all backgrounds, ages and ethnic > groups. If you want ALL backgrounds, ages and ethnic groups, then an all male group will not cut it. Just what do you want to learn/ "prove" and who are you folks working for? All too often these things are intended to prove something anti bike. Or one of the "Safety fanatic" groups looking for a "problem" to "cure". I am not saying your group is doing this, but I for one want more information then "We want information" John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 08:19:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9607.mail.yahoo.com (web9607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.186]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8ICJYf25346 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010918121933.66834.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 05:19:33 PDT Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 05:19:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Motorcycle Research Revisited. To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <7f.1a50ef6b.28d89490@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I myself was wondering why it was all male. I guess we don't count. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > If you want ALL backgrounds, ages and ethnic groups, > then an all male group > will not cut it. > > Just what do you want to learn/ "prove" and who are > you folks working for? > > All too often these things are intended to prove > something anti bike. Or one > of the "Safety fanatic" groups looking for a > "problem" to "cure". I am not > saying your group is doing this, but I for one want > more information then "We > want information" > > > John Walters (Long John) > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX > Up near DC > > Honda ST1100X Pan European > (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I > like it.) > BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles > Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 09:02:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pandora.gtsi.com (gateway.gtsi.com [192.254.22.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8ID2rf26102 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:02:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exch2.corp.gtsi.com (exch2.gtsi.com [192.254.20.203]) by pandora.gtsi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8ICwcd08048 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exch2.gtsi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:52:53 -0400 Message-ID: <23607C0BFEAAD211B8B80008C79A0ADA03516626@exchgreen.gtsi.com> From: Phil Simerly To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Motorcycle Research Revisited. Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:55:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In their narrow view of men and women, men are lumped into a beer drinking, motorcycle ride'in bunch of fools and woman are nice and pretty and would never ever ride a motorcycle let alone drink and ride. Excuse me while I puke. Raaaalllllph! I shouldn't have drank that six pack on my ride into work this morning. Buurrrp! That feels much better. HillJack EATW #1 MANS YahooIM - CouchRyder 2001 FLHTC (The Couch) > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeannette [mailto:gingerdc9@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 8:20 AM > To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Motorcycle Research Revisited. > > > I myself was wondering why it was all male. > I guess we don't count. > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > --- PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > If you want ALL backgrounds, ages and ethnic groups, > > then an all male group > > will not cut it. > > > > Just what do you want to learn/ "prove" and who are > > you folks working for? > > > > All too often these things are intended to prove > > something anti bike. Or one > > of the "Safety fanatic" groups looking for a > > "problem" to "cure". I am not > > saying your group is doing this, but I for one want > > more information then "We > > want information" > > > > > > John Walters (Long John) > > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX > > Up near DC > > > > Honda ST1100X Pan European > > (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I > > like it.) > > BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles > > Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 09:24:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8IDNff26429 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:23:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Sep 2001 13:23:37 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Motorcycle Research Revisited. Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:22:58 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010918121933.66834.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> I wondered the same thing myself. Harrrrrmmmmmppphhhh LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner Jeannette said: I myself was wondering why it was all male. I guess we don't count. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 09:45:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IDj4f26785 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:45:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.11]) id QQlhac27835 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:44:54 GMT Received: from usashexims03.corp.us.uu.net by imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: corpsmtpin.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.80.15]) id QQlhac13352 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:44:37 GMT Received: by corpsmtpin.corp.us.uu.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:40:00 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Wood, Sally" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: What Harry said... Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:39:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" At 09:59 AM 9/17/01, harry wrote: Lest there be any confusion, this isn't a "talk about anything you want to" mailing list, it is a motorcycling mailing list. The only religious issues that should be discussed on the list pertain to helmet laws and Harleys. -harry AMEN!!! ;) From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 09:49:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.5]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IDnbf26795 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp.ddlomni.com from localhost (router,SLMail V5.0); Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:50:12 -0400 for Received: from jstrang [204.245.128.170] by smtp.ddlomni.com [204.245.128.5] (SLmail 5.0.0.4342) with SMTP id C18BDE59AB6111D58E1F006008C770E5 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:50:12 -0400 From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: PIRE (motorcycle research) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:48:10 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC6806809CE@resie03.ie.cw.net> X-SLUIDL: F30C1495-AB6011D5-8E1F0060-08C770E5 >From a website that I lost the address to: ------------------------ "Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation (PIRE): The Pacific Institute is a nationally recognized resource for research, evaluation and program development in such areas as substance abuse, juvenile and criminal justice, youth development, adolescent health, and impaired driving. A California chartered (1974), not-for-profit corporation, the Institute employs over 200 staff with offices in seven States. Pacific Institute^Rs work includes basic science studies of the causes and origins of risky and anti-social behaviors as well as the evaluation of polices and programs designed to reduce the incidence of these behaviors and mitigate their consequences. Pacific Institute^Rs scientists serve on many national research and policy panels, and are regular contributors to the referenced scientific literature. Sponsors of the Institute^Rs work include Federal agencies, State governments, local governments and agencies, private foundations, and private charities." ------------------------- that "origins of risky and anti-social behavior" and "reduce incidence of these behaviors" part is interesting. Here's a link to their own website: http://www.pire.org/Focus.html Also note that the majority of PIRE research just takes a big bunch o' data, and then lines it up by race, age, sex, etc. If you split the data the right way, you'll always find some correlations, but correlation does not imply causality. If you take those sort data slices and try to draw a conclusion, its kinda like having everybody in a high school gym flip a quarter, then finding out that 58% of the people in the "paint" got heads, and then saying that standing in the "paint" causes heads to turn up. And with traffic or alcohol or whatever real life data, you can't just have everybody flip the quarter again and find out that the 58% that looked pretty important on the first flip turned into 43% on the second, and was actually just the usual random floppiness of data. If these correlations are tinged with gender and racial implications, they are big political "issues." "Issues" mean more funding for more research. You may want to find out who is funding the research and what the agenda is. Hey, this is DC: Follow the money. --jon the cynic 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200 (black and nekkid) Anti-social Hooligan Bike From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 10:08:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IE87f27171 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-41-218.s472.tnt1.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.41.218] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15jLXU-0000sO-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:07:53 -0400 Message-ID: <007b01c1404b$79e721c0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: PIRE (motorcycle research) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:08:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 The original post said the study is funded by NHTSA, if I'm not mistaken. They were quite open about it. Your tax dollars at work. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- ..> > You may want to find out who is funding the research and what the agenda is. > Hey, this is DC: Follow the money. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 10:32:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IEW5f27684 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA01122 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:27:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:27:25 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looks like fun Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://www.motordakar.com/video.htm Hugh From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 10:33:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.106]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IEX6f27704 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:33:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from attglobal.net ([24.10.231.79]) by femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010918143255.XJER2633.femail10.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX> for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:32:55 -0700 Message-ID: <3BA75C59.10D4535A@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:38:17 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [ja] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Cycle Sport Day on Sep 10 + '89 HawkGT for sale? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was at the Cycle Sport Day on a red '89 Honda HawkGT. It was my first time on the track and had a great fun time. I guess my bike was the oldest one on the track that day but good thing I wasn't the slowest guy around (I think...). I guess my riding experience on the twisties paid off. Any way, I got tired of people passing me or not being able to pass others on the straights and catching them up at the turns. well, its not racing but may be I need a little faster bike that's little suitable for track days (well, that's few times a year) to catch up with the rest and conformable on the streets. I'm thinking of getting Super Hawk 996 or VFR... Oh, the 2002 VFR looks really nice! anyone have one for sale? so here it goes, anyone interested in '89 Honda HawkGT for $900 ? its in good running condition but has been abused and has dents and cosmetic damages. also '95 Kawasaki GPz1100 for $3,700 Red, 13k miles, new tires... it looks like this (not the actual one); http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mckaw/gpz11.html -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda3@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Honda HawkGT Kawasaki GPz1100 From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 10:33:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11104.mail.yahoo.com (web11104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8IEXXf27714 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010918143309.99528.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:33:09 PDT Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:33:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Paging Jay Goddard To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Jay, Please drop me an email. Thanks. Chris ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 10:41:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13802.mail.yahoo.com (web13802.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.12]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8IEftf27864 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010918144149.4993.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13802.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:41:49 PDT Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 07:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Moto Trip to Spain/Portugal-Info Needed To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If anyone here has travelled with a motorcycle in Spain and Portugal, I would love to hear details of your trip. I am leaving for Spain next Thursday, and meeting my best friend in Madrid (he lives there). We are taking the train to Malaga, and (with two other guys) picking up 4 Honda TransAlps for 7 days of riding. The route is undetermined. Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks Mark ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 10:50:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pandora.gtsi.com (gateway.gtsi.com [192.254.22.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IEo4f28134 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exch2.corp.gtsi.com (exch2.gtsi.com [192.254.20.203]) by pandora.gtsi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8IEjkd12938 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:45:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exch2.gtsi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:40:02 -0400 Message-ID: <23607C0BFEAAD211B8B80008C79A0ADA03516629@exchgreen.gtsi.com> From: Phil Simerly To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: It makes my blood boil Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:42:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Last night I prayed to the old mighty (Harley god) to forgive me for the my sins. Father lately I have had evil thoughts of ride'in my hog without a helmet. My son you will be forgiven your sins but you must say 2 hail Harley's and donate $20 buck to Abate. HillJack EATW #1 MANS YahooIM - CouchRyder 2001 FLHTC (The Couch) > -----Original Message----- > From: harry@XXXXXX [mailto:harry@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:00 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: It makes my blood boil > > > >Continue to talk about anything you want to. It > >doesn't bother most of us. > > Lest there be any confusion, this isn't a "talk about anything > you want to" mailing list, it is a motorcycling mailing list. > The only religious issues that should be discussed on the list > pertain to helmet laws and Harleys. > -harry > From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 11:58:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mergelane.i95.net (mergelane.i95.net [205.177.164.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IFwff29541 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.pire.org ([209.8.96.35]) by mergelane.i95.net (8.9.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA12097 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:58:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Gateway-Message_Server by mail.pire.org with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:54:16 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.4 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:54:06 -0400 From: "mcfocusgroup" To: Subject: Research Issues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f8IG0Gf29542 Hi, Scott McKnight again. Some people have raised some important questions about the rationale behind this project and who were recruiting. I'll try to address these as quickly as I can. 1. Why women only? We looked at statistics for riders killed in crashes and compared the number of drinking to non-drinking riders for age, ethnicity and gender. Pretty much every group had a significant number of drinking riders except women. This indicates that women don't have a big problem with drinking and riding. In the interest of dedicating recources toward the primary problem, the decision was made to concentrate on talking to guys. It's *not* that women don't count. It's that women apparently have their act together already. For more information see http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/ncsa/Reports/809-271.pdf 2. Why not do an internet survey? The contract calls for using focus groups rather than a survey. There are a number of reasons for this, too many to go into here. A focus group is an open-ended discussion that allows for opinions on issues that might not come up in a more restricted question and answer format. For that reason we need to bring 8-10 actual people at a time into an office and have them give their opinion on the issues. 3. Who are we doing this for and why? I work for a division of the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation (www.pire.org). The group that I'm with (NPSRI) has been doing motorcycle safety research for almost 30 years. We were involved early on in the creation of the MSF beginning rider course, experienced rider course and skill tests. We wrote the motorcycle operator manual that many States use, including (last time I looked) the VA DMV. We're doing this for the motorcycle safety program of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). Many of these people are riders themselves. The work is based on the National Agenda for Motorcycle Safety (http://www.ahainc.com/nams/). This document was created by a large group of motorcyclists and safety experts, including motorcycle safety instructors, AMA staff, law enforcement and riders rights groups. A primary recommendation of this agenda was to try to find ways to reduce drinking and riding. NHTSA has funded this study to address that recommendation. While most riders I talk to believe in separating drinking and riding, the fact remains that fatal motorcycle crashes are increasing and that alcohol plays a role in nearly half those crashes. I'm not certain but I think the percentage is higher for bikes than for cars. So there *is* a drinking and riding problem. What should we do about it? We can't rely on the solutions for car drivers. Motorcycles are different. Designated drivers and other classic solutions aren't going to work. So we're going to riders to get their opinion. We're not anti-bike (bikes were my main or only form of transportation for many years). We're not talking to riders because we believe in any stereotype of bikers as heavy drinkers. This is more a case of the rider community and motorcycle safety community coming to riders for their opinions on how to save riders lives. Thanks for your time. -Scott McKnight Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation Motorcycle Focus Group Project 301 755-2785 From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 12:03:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IG3bf29673 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A050923002E; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:03:28 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: From: "patti rodgers" Subject: flag ride update??? Message-Id: <180901261.32609@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:03:37 -0700 hey all-- last week there was some talk of a flag ride around the pentagon; any update on that? it's perfect weather... keep me posted! -patti From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 12:04:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from worldbank.org (wbln0014.worldbank.org [138.220.29.7]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IG4mf29694 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:04:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WBLN0014.worldbank.org (unverified) by worldbank.org (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:30:51 -0400 Subject: Fwd: worth looking at X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 11:29:22 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 09/18/2001 11:30:50 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Bcc: Please pass this along........ James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX ----- Forwarded by James Itabashi/Person/World Bank on 09/18/2001 11:26 AM ----- Punky Scruggs cc: Subject: Fwd: worth looking at 09/18/2001 02:07 PM This one really made me cry. -P ---------- http://home.earthlink.net/~hankinhsd/thankyou.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 12:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IGNVf00260 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:23:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.218]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id MAA21791 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:23:26 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <003101c14127$8bcb21c0$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" References: <20010918144149.4993.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Moto Trip to Spain/Portugal-Info Needed Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:24:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Why don't you rub it in a little bit... Have a great time! Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Kitchell To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:41 AM Subject: Moto Trip to Spain/Portugal-Info Needed > If anyone here has travelled with a motorcycle in > Spain and Portugal, I would love to hear details of > your trip. > > I am leaving for Spain next Thursday, and meeting my > best friend in Madrid (he lives there). We are taking > the train to Malaga, and (with two other guys) picking > up 4 Honda TransAlps for 7 days of riding. The route > is undetermined. > > Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks > > Mark > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.280 / Virus Database: 147 - Release Date: 9/11/01 From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 12:24:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp02.wcom.com (dgesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.16.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IGORf00270 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:24:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.36]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42261) with ESMTP id <0GJV00FB59I6YB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:22:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp01.wcomnet.com by pmismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GJV006019HMLA@XXXXXX>; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:22:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chan3544t ([166.36.153.47]) by pmismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GJV004BG9HGI9@XXXXXX>; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:22:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:21:33 -0400 From: Robert Verde Subject: RE: I Want My Bike Back! :( In-reply-to: <200109172301.f8HN1LO12892@dirty.meretrix.com> To: gingerdc9@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-to: c-Robert.Verde@XXXXXX Message-id: <001901c1405d$fbe24210$2f9924a6@wcomnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Apologies for late response, as I'm reading in digest mode... If you are having a problem with gas leaking from the carb area on a VFR, it might be similar to a problem I had on my early Interceptor. Problem was likely self-caused, as it occurred after I had taken the carbs off and cleaned them, but it resulted in a real flood of gas coming from the area between the front two carbs. Taking the carbs off again, I discovered that the fuel tee pipe between the front two carbs was badly cracked right near the little o-ring that seals it into the carb body, Problem was a real pita to diagnose, because the cracked area was kind of inside the carb body when the carbs were bolted together. It looked like I had cracked the tube when I applied pressure to the carb set to seat the o-rings on the fuel tubes. The replacement part was aluminum, unlike the resin/plastic original part, so this problem may be a common one with early Interceptors. I have an '83 VF750F, but the part numbers for the fuel feed tubes are the same for both bikes. If it is indeed the same problem, the part numbers are either: 16026-MB0-671 Joint Set A, Fuel or 16026-MB0-771 Joint Set B, Fuel Fiche for your bike lists both part numbers under Set B, so one may be the newer part. (www.powersportspro.com) Hope this helps, and if it's any incentive, replacing the part shouldn't be more than a couple of hour job. Toughest part was finding out which tube had broken, but you may be able to pinpoint the leak by looking from the side of the bike with a small flashlight, checking between the carbs. Use a paper towel to dry the area, especially the fuel tubes, then turn on the ignition to run the fuel pump and see if you can spot the leak. Good luck! Robert Verde _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 06:07:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: I Want My Bike Back! :( To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Everyone needs to bother my husband to fix my bike. ;-) No, I don't wrench on my own bike. He keeps saying, "Let's go for a ride" and I look at him like he's crazy 'cause I don't want to ride pillion!!! :p FIX MY DAMN BIKE!!! LOL Just trying to lighten the list up a bit and make it MC related! :-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 12:41:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13803.mail.yahoo.com (web13803.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.13]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8IGfPf00633 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010918164111.85675.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13803.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:41:11 PDT Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:41:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Moto Trip to Spain/Portugal-Info Needed To: Danny Thompson , "D.C. Cycles" In-Reply-To: <003101c14127$8bcb21c0$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii He he, was it that obvious! Seriously, I did not think very long about cancelling this trip. I feel that if we let the terrorists make us change our lives, they have won. I feel quite secure travelling on a plane right now. Mark --- Danny Thompson wrote: > Why don't you rub it in a little bit... > Have a great time! > Danny Thompson > Liberty High School Technology Education > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Kitchell > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:41 AM > Subject: Moto Trip to Spain/Portugal-Info Needed > > > > If anyone here has travelled with a motorcycle in > > Spain and Portugal, I would love to hear details > of > > your trip. > > > > I am leaving for Spain next Thursday, and meeting > my > > best friend in Madrid (he lives there). We are > taking > > the train to Malaga, and (with two other guys) > picking > > up 4 Honda TransAlps for 7 days of riding. The > route > > is undetermined. > > > > Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks > > > > Mark > > > > ===== > > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.280 / Virus Database: 147 - Release > Date: 9/11/01 > ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 15:36:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.144]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IJaqf04064 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:36:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from attglobal.net ([24.10.231.79]) by femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010918193645.KWEZ7350.femail17.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX> for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:36:45 -0700 Message-ID: <3BA7A38F.12F5F0AF@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:42:07 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [ja] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: HawkGT was on sale... kawa GPz1100 anyone? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Due to unexpected popularity on the HawkGT, it is technically sold at this time... Thanks all for the email ! BTW, '95 Kawasaki GPz1100 anyone? its got same engine as ZX-11 with lots of power from low rev. little heavy though to be honest... but you'll get used to it as I did! (I think I'm going to have a hard time selling this one...) -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda3@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 16:05:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail23.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail23.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.148]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IK5Sf04641 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from attglobal.net ([24.10.231.79]) by femail23.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010918200506.HZSM14471.femail23.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX>; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 13:05:06 -0700 Message-ID: <3BA7AA33.F0E8F321@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:10:27 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [ja] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Kitchell , DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Moto Trip to Spain/Portugal-Info Needed References: <20010918164111.85675.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I went to Spain last summer and people there drive cars like a rally racers! I've rented a NTV650 (UK version of HawkGT) in London few years ago and went up to Isle of Man. It wasn't during the TT race season but a great trip. At least you'll be riding on the right side of the road in Spain and Portugal. Be careful & enjoy! Mark Kitchell wrote: > > He he, was it that obvious! > > Seriously, I did not think very long about cancelling > this trip. I feel that if we let the terrorists make > us change our lives, they have won. I feel quite > secure travelling on a plane right now. > > Mark > > --- Danny Thompson wrote: > > Why don't you rub it in a little bit... > > Have a great time! > > Danny Thompson > > Liberty High School Technology Education > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mark Kitchell > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:41 AM > > Subject: Moto Trip to Spain/Portugal-Info Needed > > > > > > > If anyone here has travelled with a motorcycle in > > > Spain and Portugal, I would love to hear details > > of > > > your trip. > > > > > > I am leaving for Spain next Thursday, and meeting > > my > > > best friend in Madrid (he lives there). We are > > taking > > > the train to Malaga, and (with two other guys) > > picking > > > up 4 Honda TransAlps for 7 days of riding. The > > route > > > is undetermined. > > > > > > Any ideas would be welcome. Thanks > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > ===== > > > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > > (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.280 / Virus Database: 147 - Release > > Date: 9/11/01 > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda3@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 18:06:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IM6af06911 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-10-14.s14.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.10.14] helo=electraglide) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15jT0h-00014Z-00; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:06:31 -0400 Message-ID: <00bf01c1408e$2c59c960$8c00a8c0@cycles.local> Reply-To: "Kathleen Loerich" From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: "mcfocusgroup" , References: Subject: Re: Research Issues Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:06:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 >This indicates that women don't have a big problem with drinking and riding. In the interest of dedicating >recources toward the primary problem, the decision was made to concentrate on talking to guys. It's *not* >that women don't count. It's that women apparently have their act together already. For more information see >http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/ncsa/Reports/809-271.pdf Since this is a research project wouldn't it make sense to examine the differences in behaviour, attitudes, and other factors that make this issue a larger problem for the male riding population? In order to make this comparison, wouldn't you have to include female participants? Kathleen Loerich From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 19:08:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com [207.46.181.87]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IN8Bf08026 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.44.250.206]) by cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:07:25 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: Lane splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:07:55 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3BA7A38F.12F5F0AF@attglobal.net> Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Sep 2001 23:07:26.0309 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEAF7150:01C14096] I know this is an old topic. But today i was confronted by a guy in a large van(large vans and pickup truck drivers seem to be very violent from my past experiences) while i was lane slitting on randolph road near route 29. I lane split most of the time. Perhaps its not even lane splitting, at a stop light, when cars start to pile up, ill move to the front of the line and be off. This guy apparently was a motorcyclist and was very upset that i was lane splitting. I expected his reaction from people who dont ride motorcycles, but from a motorcyclist it took me by suprise. He just shouted a few things at me, nothing violent. But it was suprising. Are there any dc cycle members who think that going in between cars at red lights to the front of the light is wrong? In a way it might be seen as rude to car drivers, but i really dont believe im hurting anyone. Ricardo Pontes 01 yamaha r1 98 triumph tiger From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 19:29:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8INTZf08453 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:29:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8INTHn29535; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:29:18 -0400 From: laura granato To: Jeannette , PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Motorcycle Research Revisited. Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:29:40 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20010918121933.66834.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010918121933.66834.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0109181929400Q.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 18 September 2001 08:19, Jeannette wrote: > I myself was wondering why it was all male. > I guess we don't count. > > - Jeannette > I agree, a large part of the motorcycle community these days are us cute gals!!! Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 19:32:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8INWof08521 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:32:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8INWbn29545; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:32:38 -0400 From: laura granato To: "Kathleen Loerich" , "mcfocusgroup" , Subject: Re: Research Issues Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:33:01 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <00bf01c1408e$2c59c960$8c00a8c0@cycles.local> In-Reply-To: <00bf01c1408e$2c59c960$8c00a8c0@cycles.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0109181933010R.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 18 September 2001 18:06, Kathleen Loerich wrote: > > Since this is a research project wouldn't it make sense to examine the > differences in behaviour, attitudes, and other factors that make this issue > a larger problem for the male riding population? In order to make this > comparison, wouldn't you have to include female participants? > Absolutely. Kathleen is right. Does your organization have a firm grasp as to why women behave better than men? You can't write a story with only one side of it. It would be very important to compare female's responses vs. males. Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 19:35:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8INZSf08608 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8INZFn29552; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:35:20 -0400 From: laura granato To: "Ricardo Pontes" , "Dccycles" Subject: Re: Lane splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:35:33 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0109181935330S.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 18 September 2001 19:07, Ricardo Pontes wrote: > I Are there any dc > cycle members who think that going in between cars at red lights to the > front of the light is wrong? In a way it might be seen as rude to car > drivers, but i really dont believe im hurting anyone. > Now you've done it, Ricardo. This is gonna be a heated one I'm sure. ;-) I ride, as you know, and I don't think it's wrong as long as you're not endangering anyone, but to play devil's advocate....why do you not have to wait your turn like everyone else just because you have a vehicle that can squeeze by? not saying I agree...just throwing out a point of conversation. Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 19:40:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2 (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8INdxf08629 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p61.a8.du.radix.net [207.192.132.189]) by pop2 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA26875; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:39:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Ricardo Pontes'" , "'Dccycles'" Subject: RE: Lane splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:45:31 -0400 Message-ID: <000601c1409c$01b37ae0$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal I know this is an old topic. But today i was confronted by a guy in a large van(large vans and pickup truck drivers seem to be very violent from my past experiences) while i was lane slitting on randolph road near route 29.... Are there any dc cycle members who think that going in between cars at red lights to the front of the light is wrong? I lane split If I'm turning right, behind some codger holding up a line of right turners because the codger is going straight, but only rarely. Rarely because it isn't always feasible. I don't like going between cars left & right in case someone gets jumpy. I also don't do that *unless* it's dead stop or very close, & I'm going for the next exit or the like. I do think it's wrong *around here* to filter for the purposes of convenience at many lights or stop signs. No warnings if you're caught, particularly in VA. Cops think that is their exclusive domain. In a way it might be seen as rude to car drivers, but i really dont believe im hurting anyone. One can make the argument that it builds resentment among cagers. Culture around DC makes it less than acceptable, like in Europe. Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 19:45:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2 (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8INjRf08784 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:45:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p61.a8.du.radix.net [207.192.132.189]) by pop2 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA00459; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:45:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'laura granato'" , "'Kathleen Loerich'" , "'mcfocusgroup'" , Subject: RE: Research Issues Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:50:58 -0400 Message-ID: <000701c1409c$c788ed40$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <0109181933010R.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal LAG opened Pandora's Box - Absolutely. Kathleen is right. Does your organization have a firm grasp as to why women behave better than men? WHOA there Cowgirl! I read an article in some news rag last week (you know, if they print it, it has to be true ...) that forwarded the theory that women actually prefer to work FOR men. Among the reasons were that women in office environments are several times more likely to try to 'advance themselves' by spreading vicious rumors about other office women, etc... It wasn't as biased as I'm painting it, but it was quite enlightening... Behave better. That's a good one. You can't write a story with only one side of it. It would be very important to compare female's responses vs. males. It would ? ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 19:47:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2 (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8INl1f08796 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p61.a8.du.radix.net [207.192.132.189]) by pop2 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA00598; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:46:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'laura granato'" , "'Ricardo Pontes'" , "'Dccycles'" Subject: RE: Lane splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:52:00 -0400 Message-ID: <000801c1409c$ec342240$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <0109181935330S.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Now you've done it, Ricardo. This is gonna be a heated one I'm sure. ;-) Besides which... We only watch lane splitters to see the accidents... Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 19:49:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8INnIf08822 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 2.ae.1aee3bde (3998) for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:49:08 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:49:07 EDT Subject: Re: Research Issues To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 9/18/2001 12:02:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mcfocusgroup@XXXXXX writes: > motorcycle safety program of the National Highway Traffic Safety > Administration (NHTSA). Oh! The ones who built the infamous backwards bike! A trustworthy group indeed! Rider do not drink more then anyone else... They do get hurt worse for obvious reasons. Thems the facts. No study needed. And if Women do not drink and ride, maybe they are the ones you NEED to talk to, I mean they obviously have the answer! John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 19:59:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtppop3pub.verizon.net (smtppop3pub.gte.net [206.46.170.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8INxVf09048 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([141.156.217.92]) by smtppop3pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id SAA7373022 Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:59:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8INnAd10123; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:49:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:49:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler X-X-Sender: To: Ricardo Pontes cc: Dccycles Subject: Re: Lane splitting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On the other hand, if lane splitting gets you out of the way entirely, then it actually makes traffic move better, which doesn't seem rude at all. I think it's considered rude mainly because misery loves company. -ph On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Ricardo Pontes wrote: > In a way [lane splitting] might be seen as rude to car drivers, but i > really dont believe im hurting anyone. > > Ricardo Pontes > 01 yamaha r1 > 98 triumph tiger > From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 20:07:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fulcrum ([204.70.128.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J07Jf09229 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) id <0GJV00501UZIH6@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.ie.cw.net ([204.70.128.53]) by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) with ESMTP id <0GJV003HSUZHL7@XXXXXX>; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-gw.ie.cw.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:06:53 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:06:50 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: RE: Lane splitting To: "'laura granato'" , Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles Message-id: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC680680A03@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" I usually sneak up the right turn lane (assuming there is one) then cut right in front of the first car in line. Since most cages stop a couple of feet behind the line (even if it doesn't look like that to them) I can usually fit all or at least half my bike behind the line. I really pay attention to the other traffics light and as soon as it turns yellow I'm watching mine to turn green. I make a quick check for red-light runners then hit it, and am usually at 50mph before the cager even moves an inch. I frequently get honks, and fingers. I freely admit that this is a potentially dangerous practice (red-light runner, or cager who wasn't paying attention and didn't see you cut in front of him), and have been lucky so far. To be honest I did it much more as a youth and try not to anymore. Never the less, some have accused me of being a bad ambassador for MCs, but I feel the opposite - I of my own free will invested in a very small, highly mobile, extremely quick vehicle, which just about everyone else has the option of buying as well. In reality my cutting in should be of no consequence to the cager because I'm gone before their vehicle is even rolling forward. I'm just demonstrating to the cage world what advantages another choice could have provided. What hurts them is the *unfairness* of it all - it really seems to bother people when someone else gets ahead of them even though the won't be slowed or inconvenienced regardless. People seem to prefer that everyone be in the same miserable situation as they, instead of enjoy advantages that they A) paid a pretty penny for, and B) don't slow them down or affect them in any way. In short, it's wrong, but sometimes I do it anyhow. -Calvin -----Original Message----- From: laura granato [mailto:lgranato@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:36 PM To: Ricardo Pontes; Dccycles Subject: Re: Lane splitting On Tuesday 18 September 2001 19:07, Ricardo Pontes wrote: > I Are there any dc > cycle members who think that going in between cars at red lights to the > front of the light is wrong? In a way it might be seen as rude to car > drivers, but i really dont believe im hurting anyone. > Now you've done it, Ricardo. This is gonna be a heated one I'm sure. ;-) I ride, as you know, and I don't think it's wrong as long as you're not endangering anyone, but to play devil's advocate....why do you not have to wait your turn like everyone else just because you have a vehicle that can squeeze by? not saying I agree...just throwing out a point of conversation. Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 20:45:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9008.mail.yahoo.com (web9008.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.170]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8J0jGf09901 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919004512.60419.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [172.138.75.32] by web9008.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:45:12 PDT Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:45:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: RE: Research Issues To: DC Cycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "mcfocusgroup" >So we're going to riders to get their opinion. Well why didn't you just say so? I'm drinking Johnnie Walker Black Label *Extra Special(12 Year)* and I have 2 SV650's? I typically prefer a nice microbrew, Sierra Nevada Pale Ale always hits the spot, but tonight required something a little stronger. :-) ===== Steve Clark '99 Suz SV 650 - WERA #16, CCS #167, MARRC #2352 Sponsors: http://www.FastLaneCycles.com http://www.RamMC.net <- Carbon Fiber Bodywork *** Win $5000 and help an injured rider *** http://www.tightsqueezeracing.org/Raffle.htm __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 21:06:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J16if10231 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:06:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8J16Tn29764; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:06:30 -0400 From: laura granato To: "Dave Yates" , "'Kathleen Loerich'" , "'mcfocusgroup'" , Subject: Re: Research Issues Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:06:52 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <000701c1409c$c788ed40$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> In-Reply-To: <000701c1409c$c788ed40$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0109182106520U.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 18 September 2001 19:50, Dave Yates wrote: > > > > WHOA there Cowgirl! I read an article in some news rag last week (you > know, if they print it, it has to be true ...) that forwarded the theory > that women actually prefer to work FOR men. Among the reasons were that > women in office environments are several times more likely to try to > 'advance themselves' by spreading vicious rumors about other office > women, etc... It wasn't as biased as I'm painting it, but it was quite > enlightening... Behave better. That's a good one. Laura's witty rebuttal claims: I will admit, there are certain situations what women are crazy. I know for a fact that a lot of women prefer to work for men b/c women are caddy and insecure. but I will also say a lot of men don't like to work for women. why is that oh wise one??? ;-) but in the realm of motorcycles, I would have to agree that women are less likely to submit to the childish behaviors that men submit to when they have that beast between their legs. > > > You can't write a story with only one > side of it. It would be very important to compare female's responses > vs. > males. > > > It would ? ;-) > Why yes, yes it would....because only then would men's rationalizations make sense...when they could be compared to a womans. LOL. LAG From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 21:11:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J1BRf10252 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Gawthrop@XXXXXX by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 2.49.11128e15 (2525) for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:11:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Gawthrop@XXXXXX Message-ID: <49.11128e15.28d94ab6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:11:18 EDT Subject: Lane Splitting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 53 Here's a question: Isn't lane splitting more common to sports bikes? Seems to me that it is and that there might be a close correlation between the "need for speed" and the impatience of waiting in line. The cruiser crowd doesn't seem to be that eager to "get there" and consequently doesn't seem to do that much lane splitting. Anyone notice a significant amount of cruisers doing any lane splitting? end Bill Gawthrop Maryland "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it." Voltaire (1694-1778) From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 21:17:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J1HMf10418 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:17:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d478406837 ([216.174.23.117]) by smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJVY7300.ZI2 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:16:15 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: Lane splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:15:46 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal I know it helps traffic move, but everyone I have ever been in a cage with that sees it, looks at it as butting in line. They wait their turn, and here comes joe-shmoe on a bike and gets in front. I don't split because it does leave a bad image of bikers. I also don't care if someone else does it, just not me. My 2 cents. Gary Foreman, TL Owners Club mailto:gary@XXXXXX TL Owners Club: http://www.tl1000.com TL Owners Board: http://server5.ezboard.com/btlownersboard TL Message Board: http://www.voy.com/14718/ Yahoo TL Pit: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tl1000pit From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 21:26:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2 (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J1Q8f10519 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:26:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p29.a3.du.radix.net [207.192.130.29]) by pop2 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA18706; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:25:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'laura granato'" , "DC Cycles List \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Research Issues Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:31:32 -0400 Message-ID: <001601c140aa$da780040$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <0109182106520U.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal I baited LAG with - > WHOA there Cowgirl! I read an article in some news rag last week (you > know, if they print it, it has to be true ...) that forwarded the theory > that women actually prefer to work FOR men. Among the reasons were that > women in office environments are several times more likely to try to > 'advance themselves' by spreading vicious rumors about other office > women, etc... It wasn't as biased as I'm painting it, but it was quite > enlightening... Behave better. That's a good one. Laura's witty rebuttal claims: I will admit, there are certain situations what women are crazy. I know for a fact that a lot of women prefer to work for men b/c women are caddy and insecure. You guys (gals actually) cook, clean, do windows, get beer, clean bikes and serve as golf caddies ? but I will also say a lot of men don't like to work for women. When I ask my boss to get me coffee, she just squints at me, turns & walks away mumbling... what's that about ? why is that oh wise one??? ;-) Had enough o' that $hite when I was a lad.... can't wait to wash mom's mouth out with soap when she mouths off at me while I'm doing her yard work (again...)... but in the realm of motorcycles, I would have to agree that women are less likely to submit to the childish behaviors that men submit to when they have that beast between their legs. > > It would ? ;-) > Why yes, yes it would....because only then would men's rationalizations make sense...when they could be compared to a womans. LOL. You guys (sorry, again... Gals) NEVER go along with the proposed purchase of a power tool. It's up to us to soundly judge when a new power tool is needed ! OTOH, Gun purchases can be rationally decided by both sexes equally well ! (taught Basic pistol to 25 people Sunday. 10 were women.. pretty good representation) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 21:53:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp012.mail.yahoo.com (smtp012.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.32]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8J1rKf11001 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2001 01:46:35 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: , Subject: RE: Lane Splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:46:07 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <49.11128e15.28d94ab6@aol.com> Importance: Normal After riding the Goddard's Whore, (a 92' FZR600 without a fairing) this weekend I must say that one of the reasons sport riders are more likely to split lanes is that its just much easier on a smaller bike. I come from where lane-splitting is not just the norm, but a necessity which is expected by everyone around you - you better not be caught taking up a whole car space on that two wheeled contraption! With that, I'm quite experienced in the art (Vespa messenger in South Tel-Aviv - let me tell ya!) but still rarely do it here. On the Whore I found myself lane splitting before I even knew what I was doing. Its so compact and easy to maneauver. "But officer, I just had to !". To the original question - I think it lane splitting, intelligently (yeah I know...), should be allowed and accepted. However, its NOT. People here think its rude, unfair, annoying, or whatever. Its hard to explain to the masses that if the motorcycles didn't take up a whole car space in line it would mean that they could get home a bit faster. When the motorcycle community in Israel wanted to make some noise about some unfair insurance legislation they had a "no lane splitting, regular parking day". Basically they took up car parking spots after taking up car-like space in the traffic jams. Drivers took notice ! Niv BMW F650 death, your right to say it." Voltaire (1694-1778) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 21:54:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J1smf11012 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:54:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8J1san29878; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:54:37 -0400 From: laura granato To: "Dave Yates" , "DC Cycles List \(E-mail\)" Subject: Re: Research Issues Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:54:59 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <001601c140aa$da780040$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> In-Reply-To: <001601c140aa$da780040$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0109182154590Z.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > OTOH, Gun purchases can be rationally decided by both sexes equally > well ! > (taught Basic pistol to 25 people Sunday. 10 were women.. pretty good > representation) > > a good representation, yes...and you forgot to mention that women tend to be better shooters than men. ;-) it's an undisputed fact. LAG From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 21:58:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2 (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J1wOf11096 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:58:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p29.a3.du.radix.net [207.192.130.29]) by pop2 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA04972 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:58:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'DC Cycles List \(E-mail\)'" Subject: RE: Research Issues Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:03:26 -0400 Message-ID: <001701c140af$5d4d8360$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <0109182154590Z.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal > a good representation, yes...and you forgot to mention that women tend to be better shooters than men. ;-) it's an undisputed fact. No, it's a misrepresentation of facts. Women have the *potential* to be better shooters... Of course, men have the *potential* to be better stranglers ;-) Advantage - Man ! ;-) From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 22:00:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f220.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.220]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J20jf11195 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:00:32 -0700 Received: from 165.247.87.162 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 02:00:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [165.247.87.162] From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Lane splitting Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 02:00:31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2001 02:00:32.0143 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD1FF1F0:01C140AE] Wrong? You mean morally? Every driver around here thinks its illegal, although my next door neighobor and Fairfax county cop says the law isn't really that clear in VA and DC. Certainly a cop can get you for unsafe lane changes, reckless etc, whatever. What is clear to me is that I am starting to do it -- gently and slowly -- in the last week because sitting in traffic on the HOV lanes is now insane. My office mate said it took him 2 and a half hours to get to work, with lane splitting it took me an hour. Before last week it took him 45 minutes and me 35 minutes to get up 95 and 395. Just be carefull, while road rage seemed to decrease after last week, I think in another week and many any of the frustrated cagers are going to start getting hostile again and will take it out on us bikers sneaking through traffic.... I hope that many of the traffic problems will get better after security gets tightened up and more routine. But I doubt it will. Increased security and traffic problems are only the beginning of this dirty little war. Doug Allis DHAllis@XXXXXX w: 202-482-5985 h: 703-912-9576 >From: "Ricardo Pontes" >To: "Dccycles" >Subject: Lane splitting >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:07:55 -0400 > >I know this is an old topic. But today i was confronted by a guy in a large >van(large vans and pickup truck drivers seem to be very violent from my >past >experiences) while i was lane slitting on randolph road near route 29. I >lane split most of the time. Perhaps its not even lane splitting, at a stop >light, when cars start to pile up, ill move to the front of the line and be >off. This guy apparently was a motorcyclist and was very upset that i was >lane splitting. I expected his reaction from people who dont ride >motorcycles, but from a motorcyclist it took me by suprise. He just shouted >a few things at me, nothing violent. But it was suprising. Are there any dc >cycle members who think that going in between cars at red lights to the >front of the light is wrong? In a way it might be seen as rude to car >drivers, but i really dont believe im hurting anyone. > >Ricardo Pontes >01 yamaha r1 >98 triumph tiger > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 22:07:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2 (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J271f11292 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p29.a3.du.radix.net [207.192.130.29]) by pop2 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA09257; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:06:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Doug Allis'" , Subject: RE: Lane splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:11:54 -0400 Message-ID: <001801c140b0$8a09bbc0$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Wrong? You mean morally? Every driver around here thinks its illegal, although my next door neighobor and Fairfax county cop says the law isn't really that clear in VA and DC. I can only hope that *this* is the cop that notices me do it in VA, because someone posted here a quote from leg1.va.state.us (and I later stumbled across it) 2 vehicles in the same lane is reckless driving unless it's a parade... or you're a cop. Dave From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 22:11:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13307.mail.yahoo.com (web13307.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.43]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8J2BSf11315 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919021116.4878.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.91.137.68] by web13307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:11:16 PDT Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:11:16 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Re: Lane splitting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think it is extremely rude to cut in front of cars at a light, and as a fellow motorcyclist he had every right to be upset as actions such as yours paint motorcyclists in a bad light. --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > I know this is an old topic. But today i was > confronted by a guy in a large > van(large vans and pickup truck drivers seem to be > very violent from my past > experiences) while i was lane slitting on randolph > road near route 29. I > lane split most of the time. Perhaps its not even > lane splitting, at a stop > light, when cars start to pile up, ill move to the > front of the line and be > off. This guy apparently was a motorcyclist and was > very upset that i was > lane splitting. I expected his reaction from people > who dont ride > motorcycles, but from a motorcyclist it took me by > suprise. He just shouted > a few things at me, nothing violent. But it was > suprising. Are there any dc > cycle members who think that going in between cars > at red lights to the > front of the light is wrong? In a way it might be > seen as rude to car > drivers, but i really dont believe im hurting > anyone. > > Ricardo Pontes > 01 yamaha r1 > 98 triumph tiger > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 22:16:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J2Gdf11480 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:16:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-33.patriot.net [209.249.181.33]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8J2GB229463; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:16:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3BA7FE76.B2635627@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:09:58 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gawthrop@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Lane Splitting References: <49.11128e15.28d94ab6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gawthrop@XXXXXX wrote: > Here's a question: > Isn't lane splitting more common to sports bikes? > Seems to me that it is and that there might be a close correlation between > the "need for speed" and the impatience of waiting in line. The cruiser > crowd doesn't seem to be that eager to "get there" and consequently doesn't > seem to do that much lane splitting. Anyone notice a significant amount of > cruisers doing any lane splitting? Perhaps you've never tried lane-splitting in a bagger-wide perfumed pig cruiser? Kinda like parking a limo in a "compact cars only" spot... Bill H From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 22:28:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J2SGf11662 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vaio ([24.6.106.133]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010919022751.DHYR10288.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vaio> for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:27:51 -0700 Message-ID: <003f01c140b3$06ba97a0$6401a8c0@Home> From: "James Reazor" To: References: <49.11128e15.28d94ab6@aol.com> Subject: Re: Lane Splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:30:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > Here's a question: > Isn't lane splitting more common to sports bikes? > Seems to me that it is and that there might be a close correlation between > the "need for speed" and the impatience of waiting in line. The cruiser > crowd doesn't seem to be that eager to "get there" and consequently doesn't > seem to do that much lane splitting. Anyone notice a significant amount of > cruisers doing any lane splitting? I thought that was just because those ape hangers and floor boards don't fit so easily between a pair of mini-vans. But seriously... I don't see the problem with filtering. It's generally accepted in Europe and California. In my experience, drivers in both places are far more courteous about it (and every thing else) than they are here. I honestly believe that the problem is that, as another lister put it, "misery loves company". A non-riding coworker of mine admitted as much. Another issue is safety. If traffic is stopped and there's plenty of space between cars I think it's safer to move forward very cautiously then to sit at the back where some wooden-head can rear-end you into the car in front. I have a friend who didn't filter until that happened to him... twice. -James '00 SV650 From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 22:38:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11503.mail.yahoo.com (web11503.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.35]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8J2cZf11810 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919023834.72528.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.52.58.4] by web11503.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:38:34 PDT Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:38:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Lane splitting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010919021116.4878.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Only in this country... Go to Japan and they actually have a lane "out front" for bikes to move up to. Civilized if you ask me. People need to lighten up because they are stuck in traffic and can't go but a bike can... Glenn --- stephen cutchins wrote: > I think it is extremely rude to cut in front of cars > at a light, and as a fellow motorcyclist he had > every > right to be upset as actions such as yours paint > motorcyclists in a bad light. > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 22:41:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J2fIf11833 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:41:23 -0400 (EDT) X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZ4+BYKc6jhgsGSOD/5963DS03qyExOI7QSSLlcOzJwXQyLs7drchipmBBwUfv0UYg= Received: from 24-163-104-245.sp.cox.rr.com ([24.163.104.245] helo=psuhell.mad.scientist.com) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15jXIT-00057w-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:41:13 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010918223941.00c06830@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: ltrainpsu@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:40:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Subject: RE: Lane Splitting In-Reply-To: References: <49.11128e15.28d94ab6@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:46 PM 09/18/2001 -0400, you wrote: > > >To the original question - I think it lane splitting, intelligently (yeah I >know...), should be allowed and accepted. However, its NOT. > Actually, its legal in California, when traffic is stopped. but some people still get pissed and open doors on bikers. Larry From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 22:43:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J2hTf11918 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:43:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-46-230.s230.tnt4.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.46.230] helo=66.44.46.230) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15jXKK-00079h-00; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:43:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3BA8074B.504E@starpower.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:47:39 -0400 From: Paul Wilson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-SP32599 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stephen cutchins CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Lane splitting References: <20010919021116.4878.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit stephen cutchins wrote: > > I think it is extremely rude to cut in front of cars > at a light, and as a fellow motorcyclist he had every > right to be upset as actions such as yours paint > motorcyclists in a bad light. > > --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > I know this is an old topic. But today i was > > confronted by a guy in a large > > van(large vans and pickup truck drivers seem to be > > very violent from my past > > experiences) while i was lane slitting on randolph > > road near route 29. .. FWIW, I will only filter between the curb and stopped cars only if I'm making a turn and I only do that in DC where such things are accepted and expected. Legalities aside I don't do it where people aren't expecting it, which might lead to a mishap. I *do not* filter between the cages with the purpose of "dusting" them the instant the light turns green. Not only is this a great way to possibly end up being a hood ornament on a mommy van catching the tail end of the yellow but it is extremely rude and is a good way to piss people off and give them a generally unfavorable view of motorcyclists. I think we should be clear that what you're talking about is filtering. Lane splitting is sharing a lane in moving traffic. At least that's how I use the term. Both filtering and lane splitting are explicitely illegal in VA and MD. You can be ticketed for doing so. DC's traffic laws are less clear on the issue. Paul in DC 95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 22:51:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8J2pAf12094 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj892909-c.alex1.va.home.com (HELO cliffzig) (65.9.63.233) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2001 02:51:02 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <003d01c140be$8cc6fea0$0201a8c0@HOME> From: "Cliff Zigmond" To: , "Larry" References: <49.11128e15.28d94ab6@aol.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010918223941.00c06830@pop.erols.com> Subject: Re: Lane Splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:52:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 > Actually, its legal in California, when traffic is stopped. but some people > still get pissed and open doors on bikers. > > Larry Damn, has this actually happened to anyone here? I recently started filtering, due to my mounting frustrations with the street closings in DC last week. The gridlock was downright ridiculous last Thursday! Cliff '93 CB750 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 23:06:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8J36Zf12342 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2001 03:06:33 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Lane splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:06:19 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <001801c140b0$8a09bbc0$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 That's what I remember hearing and why I never split. I can't afford another reckless. SHUDDER LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner Dave Yates said: I can only hope that *this* is the cop that notices me do it in VA, because someone posted here a quote from leg1.va.state.us (and I later stumbled across it) 2 vehicles in the same lane is reckless driving unless it's a parade... or you're a cop. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 23:22:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.188]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J3M7f12568 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:22:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net (pool-151-200-19-35.res.east.verizon.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp009pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id f8J3MR221759 Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:22:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010918232037.00b1fb10@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:21:55 -0400 To: Tight Squeeze Racing , DC Cycles List From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: Research Issues In-Reply-To: <20010919004512.60419.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:45 PM 9/18/01, Tight Squeeze Racing wrote: >I'm drinking Johnnie Walker Black Label *Extra Special(12 Year)* and I >have 2 SV650's? I typically prefer a nice microbrew, Sierra Nevada >Pale Ale always hits the spot, but tonight required something a little >stronger. :-) I'd have thought a discerning SV650 rider would be drinking at least a training-wheel single malt, say one of the UD "Classic Malts"..... 8;) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 23:25:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp003pub.verizon.net (smtp003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.182]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J3P9f12582 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net (pool-151-200-19-35.res.east.verizon.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp003pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id f8J3Ou107130 Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:24:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010918232420.00ae5440@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:24:56 -0400 To: From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Research Issues In-Reply-To: <0109182154590Z.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> References: <001601c140aa$da780040$bd84c0cf@nih.gov> <001601c140aa$da780040$bd84c0cf@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:54 PM 9/18/01, laura granato wrote: >a good representation, yes...and you forgot to mention that women tend to be >better shooters than men. ;-) it's an undisputed fact. Not on combat courses.... 8;) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 23:31:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp009pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.188]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J3TBf12664 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net (pool-151-200-19-35.res.east.verizon.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp009pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id f8J3TH225725 Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:29:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010918232624.00ae6700@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:28:45 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Lane splitting In-Reply-To: <3BA8074B.504E@starpower.net> References: <20010919021116.4878.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I filter every day in Virginia, generally at intersections where left-on-red is legal, because 99% of cagers are a) too dumb to know where left-on-red is legal, and b) the 1% that knows is too damn inconsiderate to keep to the right lane. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Tue Sep 18 23:47:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.140]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J3lvf12965 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vaio ([24.6.106.133]) by femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010919034750.VXUR17121.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vaio> for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:47:50 -0700 Message-ID: <003101c140be$31fb4800$6401a8c0@Home> From: "James Reazor" To: References: <20010919021116.4878.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010918232624.00ae6700@mail.9netave.com> Subject: Re: Lane splitting Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:49:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Me too Larry but my biggest issue is with people who read the "No turn on red" part but don't bother with "When pedestrians are present". -James '00 SV650 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Larson" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 11:28 PM Subject: Re: Lane splitting > I filter every day in Virginia, generally at intersections where > left-on-red is legal, because 99% of cagers are a) too dumb to know where > left-on-red is legal, and b) the 1% that knows is too damn inconsiderate to > keep to the right lane. > > -- Larry > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 00:51:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8J4pqf14023 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8J4pjn30076 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:51:46 -0400 From: Brian Roach Reply-To: roach@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: HawkGT was on sale... kawa GPz1100 anyone? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 00:52:08 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091900520800.20019@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 18 September 2001 15:42, you wrote: >M- Due to unexpected popularity on the HawkGT, it is technically sold at >M- this time... >M- Thanks all for the email ! Why unexpected? It's only been one of the most popular bikes for the racetrack over the last 10 years, especially for beginners. M- If it weren't for the SV coming out and the aging of the race Hawk population, you'd still see flocks of them at the racetracks every weekend! - Roach From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 06:51:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JApBf19856 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUYMn3SapMzS0yXfkJTDwleA=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GFPQGXDV; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:50:45 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:47:34 -0400 Subject: Flag on Web Message-ID: <20010919.064735.-504795.4.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tom Fitzpatrick Here is another site with a pretty good Flag: http://www.allenwayne.com/ Tom From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 08:17:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9603.mail.yahoo.com (web9603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.182]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JCHZf21154 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919121734.69833.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:17:34 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:17:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Lane Splitting To: Cliff Zigmond , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Larry In-Reply-To: <003d01c140be$8cc6fea0$0201a8c0@HOME> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used to lane split and filter when I was commuting in DC every day. Believe it or not, they're more tolerant of it in the city. My theory as to why is that they're used to the bike messengers and various other couriers zooming in & out of lanes all day long. They also are more alert to you, in my opinion, because of this. I do not do it in VA because, like Linda said, I don't want a reckless...although I have been known to drop a gear and gun it past someone once or twice sorta "near" their lane... ;-) This is only when someone is going, let's say, 10mph UNDER the speed limit. Seems to be normal in my neighbhorhood. Gotta love S. Arlington! :p Oh, and I TOTALLY agree about the "misery loves company" comment. I mean, come on now! Someone going by you is NOT hurting you! Why the hell do you care that they're doing it? I don't get people. Although I must say that one thing I don't like is when (this hasn't happened much, but it has happened) a sportbike will go by me at warp speed in my lane on the highway. Not only does it scare the crap out of me, but it is VERY dangerous. Wonder if I decided to change lanes at that second? THAT is a pet peeve of mine. BUT I did have a road rager incident once in DC. Some stupid BIATCH got pissed that my bike could out-run her car (I passed her on the right, open lane even!) and she came up behind me, SLAMMED on her brakes (I guess to scare me), yelled, "HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT!!!???" then started yelling at me about cutting her off or some such stupid shit. I didn't cut her off at ALL so I had no idea what the hell her problem was. Maybe she needed to get laid (?) I shook my head, basically laughed at her, and turned around and called her a dumb blonde c word. neener neener ;-) [I was secretly hoping she'd get out of her car, she would've gotten the worst beating of her life. I don't take kindly to people trying to "scare" me and I certainly don't fight with slaps or fingernails] Sorry, had to vent. That was the "worst" road rage incident I've ever experienced...but then there's the time when a guy tried to run me down (I was walking, he had a stop sign and blew it off) and then jumped me... I'll save that for another time! LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > Damn, has this actually happened to anyone here? > I recently started filtering, due to my mounting > frustrations with the > street closings in DC last week. The gridlock was > downright ridiculous last > Thursday! > > Cliff > '93 CB750 > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 08:30:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JCUwf21377 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id AFE88BF90088; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:30:32 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: From: "patti rodgers" Subject: RE: Re: Lane Splitting Message-Id: <190901262.19832@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:30:59 -0700 > >Damn, has this actually happened to anyone here? > yep, i've had someone try and nudge me off the shoulder by the car straddling the lanes; i've been doored (i hope not intentionally because i still have faith in the human race) and all kinds of stuff. i'm also guilty of giving a particurlarly bad driver a little lesson. one lady in a mini-van missed me and one other bike by scant inches as she merged from I-95 to Rte 1 (Ft Belvoir) without looking, and i *explained* to her why that was a bad thing. she was a little scared of us! but hopefully she learned her lesson. then there was the rich old guy who rode on my arse through a construction zone on MacArthur Blvd... i was actually going just under the speed limit--- posted at i think 20--- because there was a lot of loose gravel and construction debris. down a hill in a turn! so at the light i asked him if he wanted my lawyer's card now, or should we just wait till he runs me over! -patti >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 08:36:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9602.mail.yahoo.com (web9602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.181]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JCabf21463 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919123633.45056.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:36:33 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: RE: Re: Lane Splitting To: patti rodgers , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <190901262.19832@webbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ROTFL!!! GO GIRL!!! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- patti rodgers wrote: so at the light i asked him if he > wanted my > lawyer's card now, or should we just wait till he > runs me over! > > -patti __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 08:38:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14004.mail.yahoo.com (web14004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.120]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JCclf21487 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919123846.44716.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.229.31.25] by web14004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:38:46 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:38:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Lane splitting To: Dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > I know this is an old topic. But today i was > confronted by a guy in a large > van(large vans and pickup truck drivers seem to be > very violent from my past > experiences) while i was lane slitting on randolph > road near route 29. I > lane split most of the time. I also lane split. Almost always in DC, now recently in Virginia as well. First some background. For the past two years, I've been riding at or below the speed limit on the I-95 and I-395 HOV lanes. When I ride in the center of the right lane doing this, I get about one very pissed off car driver a week. When I ride on the right edge of the right lane, about 10 cars per day pass me by lane splitting. 10 cars per day times 5 days per week times 50 weeks per year times 2 years is a lot of cars. None of these cars has ever hit me, none of them have made obscene gestures at me, none of them have honked at me. I've had cars, trucks, busses, motorcycles and both marked and unmarked police cars split lanes to pass me. Often there have been three vehicles abreast in the two lanes while the lane splitting occurs. I have never seen anyone stopped for lane splitting in this manner. If it's OK to split lanes with a car to pass a motorcycle while traveling at more than 50 mph, why is it NOT OK to pass a car with a motorcycle when the faster of the two vehicles is travelling at 20 mph or slower? FWIW, if I get honked at while doing any of these maneuvers, I figure I've done it wrong. I seldom get honked at while lane splitting. I have had people move over to prevent me from splitting, and I don't go past them while splitting lanes - it's their choice. I also had a guy open a door well ahead of me once - I didn't split lanes past him, his choice. Many more people will move away and give me room to get by. Leon. Ninja 250 - good bike for splitting lanes. __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 09:38:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JDcDf22507 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:36:42 -0400 Message-Id: <200109190936.AA2818508@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "Dccycles" Subject: Re: Lane splitting X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Ricardo Pontes" >Are there any dc >cycle members who think that going in between cars at red lights to the >front of the light is wrong? In a way it might be seen as rude to car >drivers, but i really dont believe im hurting anyone. In most of the world, tactics like that are seen as a way to reduce congestion and improve traffic flow. In many parts of America it's seen as "cutting in front". sigh. No, I don't see anything wrong with it. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 09:42:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JDgnf22594 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:42:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:42:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200109190942.AA2621890@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Lane Splitting X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "William J. Huson" >Perhaps you've never tried lane-splitting in a bagger-wide perfumed pig >cruiser? Kinda like parking a limo in a "compact cars only" spot... And mirrors can be a problem. Both my PC800 and ST1100 have fairing-mounted mirrors that are just the height of car mirrors. This reduces the lane-splitting space available ... and car drivers really hate getting their mirrors clicked. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 09:53:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JDrMf22802 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-36.patriot.net [209.249.181.36]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8JDrH230632 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:53:17 -0400 Message-ID: <3BA8A1D6.DBA0FE4B@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:47:02 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: AMF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adios, My Friends... I'm going to unsub for a couple weeks to keep the mailbox from overflowing. Shortly after dawn tomorrow I'll be embarking on a moderately long motorcycle trip. To avoid the dreaded PA and OH turnpikes, which last time I checked were paved with rubble and crowded with freight train trucks called triple bottoms, I'll be traveling thru southern Ohio, then heading north to MI for my high school reunion. The reunion is a good excuse for a putt, I have no sense of loyalty to that crowd. I arrived at RHS my junior year and left within hours of graduation. Being shy (true) I never got into the social whirl for what is was worth. But it should be interesting to see how many of my former classmates have totally geezed out. No former girlfriends to reunite with, I was shy (true). The only girl I dated was a setup blind date arraigned by my best friend who was dating a girl who was required to double-date by her parental units. I couldn't say no to my best friend seeing as how he was after the girl of his dreams - big hooters and rumored loose morals. I *think* I actually kissed my date, but it remains a fuzzy memory. Hey, memory blackouts when suffering from trauma are not uncommon. Yeppers, shy me was nervous as all hell. >From MI I'll be wandering south thru a variety of Midwest states, sort of destination Alabama to visit and old friend. Then on to TN to visit my darling daughter, who will no doubt insist I sit down for a hair style/cut. I can't say no, not when DD owns and operates a beauty salon. I'll be lucky to escape her shop without submitting to a pedicure and manicure. A Harley rider with buffed nails? The mind boggles... Also on my list, a stop at my alma mater. Working on a rather tacky college record, tossed out of a community college twice, my final college stop was the only one that would accept me, which is why this heathen wound up graduating from a Baptist college. Is was a test of my skill at avoiding getting canned again, like these folks were so tight-assed you couldn't drive a needle up their ass with a sledge hammer. The day I received my diploma and left campus the dean of men actually cheered. I think I'll drop by (YIKES! Biker alert!) And see if they still lock up the girls at sundown. That wasn't a problem for me, I had *fixed* the rear door lock to the sophomore girl's dorm - heyeh heyeh. The in-laws are the next stop. Actually, I like my in-laws so this is no problem. And then off to the Outer Banks. By then the rear tire on my scoot will be getting no-pass-inspection thin, maybe I'll drop it off at my fav OBX cycle shop for new shoes. By then the inspection will also be expired. I may have to cross the VA border in the dark of night to make it home. The resident oddsmakers should start a pool: Will the Harley make it more than a thousand miles without puking up some very important part? Will I avoid being arrested for mooning my former classmates? Anyhoo, y`all stay safe. I'll be back - maybe... Bill dusty, bug splattered `93 Harley FHLS From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 09:57:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.5]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JDvkf22959 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp.ddlomni.com from localhost (router,SLMail V5.0); Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:58:46 -0400 for Received: from jstrang [204.245.128.170] by smtp.ddlomni.com [204.245.128.5] (SLmail 5.0.0.4342) with SMTP id C18BE24BAB6111D58E1F006008C770E5 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:58:45 -0400 From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Re: Lane Splitting Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:56:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010919123633.45056.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-SLUIDL: F30C1A6E-AB6011D5-8E1F0060-08C770E5 I very rarely lane split until the past 7 days. I live near the Pentagon and cannot get past/through the tourists without it. I couldn't get my car out of the driveway. All the cars were at a dead stop or very near. I was very aggressive (e.g. passing on the left until closed off by parked car, then in between cars to the right and passing there. Some peeved folks, I'm sure, but I really didn't want to spend an hour to get to and from my house. --jon the hooligan From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 10:48:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13805.mail.yahoo.com (web13805.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JEm3f23731 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919142342.37402.qmail@web13805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13805.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:23:42 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:23:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: AMF To: "William J. Huson" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" In-Reply-To: <3BA8A1D6.DBA0FE4B@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bill, that sounds like a great trip. Know you as I do, I am sure you will 'take it easy' out there on the road. Be sure to wear a good helmet, jacket and all that. Let us know when you get back. You are one of the only Harley riders on this list. Mark --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > Adios, My Friends... > > I'm going to unsub for a couple weeks to keep the > mailbox from > overflowing. > > Shortly after dawn tomorrow I'll be embarking on a > moderately long > motorcycle trip. To avoid the dreaded PA and OH > turnpikes, which last > time I checked were paved with rubble and crowded > with freight train > trucks called triple bottoms, I'll be traveling thru > southern Ohio, then > heading north to MI for my high school reunion. > The reunion is a good excuse for a putt, I have no > sense of loyalty to > that crowd. I arrived at RHS my junior year and > left within hours of > graduation. Being shy (true) I never got into the > social whirl for what > is was worth. But it should be interesting to see > how many of my former > classmates have totally geezed out. No former > girlfriends to reunite > with, I was shy (true). The only girl I dated was a > setup blind date > arraigned by my best friend who was dating a girl > who was required to > double-date by her parental units. I couldn't say > no to my best friend > seeing as how he was after the girl of his dreams - > big hooters and > rumored loose morals. I *think* I actually kissed > my date, but it > remains a fuzzy memory. Hey, memory blackouts when > suffering from > trauma are not uncommon. Yeppers, shy me was > nervous as all hell. > From MI I'll be wandering south thru a variety of > Midwest states, sort > of destination Alabama to visit and old friend. > Then on to TN to visit > my darling daughter, who will no doubt insist I sit > down for a hair > style/cut. I can't say no, not when DD owns and > operates a beauty > salon. I'll be lucky to escape her shop without > submitting to a > pedicure and manicure. A Harley rider with buffed > nails? The mind > boggles... > Also on my list, a stop at my alma mater. Working > on a rather tacky > college record, tossed out of a community college > twice, my final > college stop was the only one that would accept me, > which is why this > heathen wound up graduating from a Baptist college. > Is was a test of my > skill at avoiding getting canned again, like these > folks were so > tight-assed you couldn't drive a needle up their ass > with a sledge > hammer. The day I received my diploma and left > campus the dean of men > actually cheered. I think I'll drop by (YIKES! > Biker alert!) And > see if they still lock up the girls at sundown. > That wasn't a problem > for me, I had *fixed* the rear door lock to the > sophomore girl's dorm - > heyeh heyeh. > The in-laws are the next stop. Actually, I like my > in-laws so this is > no problem. And then off to the Outer Banks. By > then the rear tire on > my scoot will be getting no-pass-inspection thin, > maybe I'll drop it off > at my fav OBX cycle shop for new shoes. By then the > inspection will > also be expired. I may have to cross the VA border > in the dark of night > to make it home. > The resident oddsmakers should start a pool: Will > the Harley make it > more than a thousand miles without puking up some > very important part? > Will I avoid being arrested for mooning my former > classmates? > Anyhoo, y`all stay safe. I'll be back - maybe... > > Bill > dusty, bug splattered `93 Harley FHLS > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 11:11:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JFBpf24074 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:11:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZEaZBNMa5Hj0XQDFn9xIWJUObY65i5p/ozVUuzGtRIfwyciV5J7NHY5MhXYOHsQ2w= Received: from 24-163-104-245.sp.cox.rr.com ([24.163.104.245] helo=psuhell.mad.scientist.com) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with asmtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15jj0s-0002L4-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:11:46 -0400 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010919111003.00c06ca0@pop.erols.com> X-Sender: ltrainpsu@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:11:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Subject: Re: Lane Splitting In-Reply-To: <003d01c140be$8cc6fea0$0201a8c0@HOME> References: <49.11128e15.28d94ab6@aol.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010918223941.00c06830@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Yeah, I'm on www.sportbikes.net a lot, and the topic of lane splitting comes up every once in awhile. They say that you have to watch for it all the time, but it only happens once in awhile. I would definitely get off my bike and beat some ass. Also, in california, attempting to hit a moving motorcycle is attempted murder, which is awesome. I'm not sure if its the same in VA. Larry At 10:52 PM 09/18/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > Actually, its legal in California, when traffic is stopped. but some >people > > still get pissed and open doors on bikers. > > > > Larry > >Damn, has this actually happened to anyone here? >I recently started filtering, due to my mounting frustrations with the >street closings in DC last week. The gridlock was downright ridiculous last >Thursday! > >Cliff >'93 CB750 > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 11:18:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pandora.gtsi.com (gateway.gtsi.com [192.254.22.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JFICf24220 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exch2.corp.gtsi.com (exch2.gtsi.com [192.254.20.203]) by pandora.gtsi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f8JFDjd14702 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:13:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exch2.gtsi.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:08:01 -0400 Message-ID: <23607C0BFEAAD211B8B80008C79A0ADA0351662A@exchgreen.gtsi.com> From: Phil Simerly To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: AMF Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:10:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Kitchell [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] > You are one of the > only Harley riders on this list. Not so HillJack EATW #1 MANS YahooIM - CouchRyder 2001 FLHTC (The Couch) From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 11:21:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp003pub.verizon.net (smtp003pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.182]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JFLWf24308 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.bellatlantic.net (pool-151-200-19-35.res.east.verizon.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp003pub.verizon.net with ESMTP for ; id f8JFLM103703 Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:21:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010919112022.00b19d60@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:21:23 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Chuck on MSNBC In-Reply-To: <21030-3BA63C33-2036@storefull-134.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >FYI, Chuck Pena (in his Cato garb) is being interviewed on the Afghan >situation right now on MSNBC... -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 12:01:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f15.hotmail.com [216.32.181.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JG1Pf24923 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:49:38 -0700 Received: from 63.23.214.145 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 15:49:38 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.23.214.145] From: "Kenneth Shephard" To: lantech.cwd@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: flag ride update??? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:49:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2001 15:49:38.0856 (UTC) FILETIME=[B079F280:01C14122] My wife and I work down there, and as of right now, all the surrounding roads, Boundary Channel from Old JD, South Parking etc. are to be closed indefinitely. I fully support and would like to participate in a Flag Ride, but I think at this point that if our destination is to be the Penatagon, we had best hold up for a while. well unfortunatley I have to get back to work, if anyone comes up with a workable idea let me know. Ken S........ Ride Safe and Forever Free Inwood WV HDKnight@XXXXXX AIM HDKnight1 ICQ #32289311 >From: "patti rodgers" >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: flag ride update??? >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:03:37 -0700 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [216.27.137.7] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBD70BC6700324136E817D81B890705EA0; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:08:25 -0700 >Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67])by >dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8IG3bf29673for >; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 12:03:37 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) >id A050923002E; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:03:28 -0700 >From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:09:29 -0700 >Message-Id: <180901261.32609@XXXXXX> > > >hey all-- > >last week there was some talk of a flag ride around the pentagon; >any update on that? it's perfect weather... keep me posted! > >-patti > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 12:42:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com [207.46.181.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JGgEf25699 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.48.103.224]) by cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:41:32 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: Lane splitting Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:42:02 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2001 16:41:33.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[F101DBE0:01C14129] I have Filtered and lane splitted to the front of lines in Va, Dc, And MD. and in many cases in front of many police cruisers and never had a problem. I usually get reactions when traffic is backed up in College Park near the university of Maryland. Cars pushing me out of my lane etc... If a car hits you while you are filtering to the front intentionaly, who is at fault? Does it depend on witnesses. Lets say someone in a car opened a door and it seemed obvious to what he was up to. Ricardo Pontes From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 12:48:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h007.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JGmZf25808 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 3306 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2001 09:48:18 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO truck.lemrow.com) (65.205.6.30) by smtp.lemrow.com (209.228.32.121) with SMTP; 19 Sep 2001 09:48:18 -0700 X-Sent: 19 Sep 2001 16:48:18 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010919123700.01fd1d48@mail.lemrow.com> X-Sender: firblt@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:37:48 -0400 To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Justin Lemrow Subject: Re: Lane splitting In-Reply-To: <20010919023834.72528.qmail@web11503.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010919021116.4878.qmail@web13307.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed can i get an Amen? ;) >People need to lighten up >because they are stuck in traffic and can't go but a >bike can... > >Glenn 1999 VFR 800 Northern VA/Washington DC From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 12:48:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com [207.46.181.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JGmff25811 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:48:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.48.103.224]) by cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:48:33 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: Lane Splitting Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:48:32 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <49.11128e15.28d94ab6@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2001 16:48:34.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[EBE96D20:01C1412A] I hardly would consider myself impatient. But whenever i ride my sportbike it is much easier to lane split, they are typically narrow and very low to the ground, my mirrors are set below most cars, so i can make it through very easily. My triumph tiger is much harder, it is pretty big, and the handle bars are very wide, making it hard to make my way to the front of the line. You would be suprised to find out that many sportbike riders arent impatient either, i go in between cars because i can, and without harming anyone in the process. It seems useless to wait in lines with cars breathing their exhaust while you can take advantage of the small size of a motorcycle. There should be more understanding about filtering and lane splitting, is there something that can be done?? Ricardo Pontes From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 13:03:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com [207.46.181.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JH35f26088 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.48.103.224]) by cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:02:58 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: Lane splitting Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:02:57 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Sep 2001 17:02:58.0968 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF25C180:01C1412C] http://www.ridetowork.org/thedailyrider/2/html/ Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com This is a great article on bikers :) Ricardo Pontes The theme of this issue is M-^QriskM-^R, probably the single most prohibitive reason more people donM-^Rt use their motorcycles on a daily, ride-to-work basis. Someone once told me that motorcyclists have 2 times as many fatalities as bicyclists and 10 times as many as car drivers. Motorbikes are dangerous but they probably arenM-^Rt that lethal. Another published statistic M-^QprovesM-^R you are 56 times more likely to be killed when walking than when riding in a car...on a per mile traveled basis. All popular statistics are somewhat biased by social bigotry. Antimotorcycle prejudices thrive because bikes are 'non conforming' vehicles. What makes them seem excessively risky is...partly...that they are potentially disruptive to the order of our transportation system. Superior nimbleness causes bikes to be subconsciously seen as mildly threatening and seditious. Our road network is optimized for cars and light trucks so this bias is well rooted and insidious. Motorcycling may statistically chart as being riskier because more riders are young, male, and risk (speed/performance) oriented,...or because social drinking may more often be combined with riding than with overall driving activities. Riders sometimes become cynical, alienated or estranged after theyM-^Rve accepted the apparently increased risks of riding in return for itM-^Rs greater efficiency, enjoyment and fun. There are lotM-^Rs of people in cars who do not understand this. Some just...hate...it. (cops and judges, too.) Riders are culturally and socially marginalized whenever they decide to motorcycle for transportation. Motorcyclists must be more self-confident about their ability (and their luck) than all others on our roads. Riders are the most hyperabled users of our transportation infrastructure... in the same way that athletes surpass general fitness norms. If a rider is killed by some car running a red light, the driver will get a $400 fine...and the available charge of vehicular manslaughter will probably not be applied. After all, everyone drives a car, including the judge. Almost everyone appreciates and accepts bikes as 'toys'...so thatM-^Rs how they are understood. This limited awareness is enormously harmful to all transportation-motorcycling riders. Choosing riding is one of the most serious decisions anyone can make. The consequences of a typical bike accident are far less predetermined than those of an average car accident. A motorcycle accident may produce no injuries...or death,...depending on the specific crash kinesthetic and what (if anything) a fallen rider bumps into. We ride paranoid, maintain good technical riding skills and do not allow daily experiences to make us over-confident. These disciplines distinguish us from everyone else on the road and help explain some of the publicM-^Rs biases. Sometimes biases are...believe it or not...jealousy-generated. The advantages of transportation motorcycling are easy to list: More parking, less road congestion, less energy consumption, less infrastructure wear, shorter travel times, more healthy and alert people, etc... Far too few persons view motorcycles as offering practical solutions to transportation, social and environmental problems. Pervasive mechanisms of social bigotry insure that many of motorcyclingM-^Rs risks will be widely misunderstood for some time. But accommodating both less-abled and hyper-abled road users improves conditions for everyone. Much has already been done for the former. (Ask any traffic engineer or planner...) Now we must begin to recognize the valuable contributions of the latter. Us. Transportation-motorcycling riders. Motorcycling does not exist in a simple paper-covers-rock-breaks-scissors world. Every SUV does not crush every small car which does not crush every motorcycle which does not crush every pedestrian. How we drive, ride and walk makes a huge difference in all of our individual survival chances. Riding for transportation means placing one less car on the road...or in a parking space. Safely splitting a lane or filtering up to a light can reduce everyoneM-^Rs travel times. Other motorcycle-dense cultures already view riders in more socially positive ways. Riding here is not yet seen as both recreation and a powerful social good. This change will happen if we believe it can. Our cause is just now beginning. To borrow THE phrase: M-^Qwe shall overcomeM-^R. ThereM-^Rs no substitute for hard statistics. Current information about ridingM-^R s risks facilitates...and is affected by...cultural biases. Motorcycle commuting may be somewhat more risky than taking a car or riding a bus. On the other hand, it may not actually be as awful as is widely believed. We donM-^Rt yet know all of the answers or even all of the right questions. Advances in computers, software and other technologies should now permit the generation of truer statistics to more clearly and accurately gauge the risks of motorcycle commuting. If you are a statistician, actuary, data miner, quant, nerd or wonk and are looking for a new hobby, you can help. Vast existing databases are awaiting your examination. WeM-^Rll distribute your new metrics. Over the long term everyone may begin to understand and appreciate the benefits of having more motorcyclists sharing our roads. It would be soooo great. M-) 2000 Ride To Work Inc. From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 13:14:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JHEuf26312 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-51-24.s278.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.51.24] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15jkw2-0007RC-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:14:55 -0400 Message-ID: <00ed01c1412e$c6420100$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: Lane Splitting Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:15:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ricardo Pontes It seems useless to wait in lines with cars breathing > their exhaust while you can take advantage of the small size of a > motorcycle. There should be more understanding about filtering and lane > splitting, is there something that can be done?? > > Ricardo Pontes For starters urge the AMA and like minded groups to make it one of their pet issues (instead of head bucket hysteria) and secondly start lobbying your legislators. AFAIK, Andy Goldfine's www.ridetowork.org is the only group actively advocating legalizing lane sharing for bikes. Interesting news item, the authorities in London are going to charge a toll to enter central London, but motorbikes will be exempt. Wouldn't that be wonderful. Of course it would never happen in DC, although making Dulles Toll Road and Greenway free for bikes would be a step in the right direction. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 14:20:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JIKbf27556 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A1F3C6B5010A; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:20:35 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: From: "patti rodgers" Subject: RE: Re: Lane Splitting Message-Id: <190901262.40836@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:20:40 -0700 > although making Dulles >Toll Road and Greenway free for bikes would be a step in the right >direction. I for one am extremely paranoid about riding on the Dulles Toll Road; it's not so much the road but the toll plazas. Here in the Spring Hill Road area (I'm only out here about one week of every 3 months) I have narrowly escaped being hit from behind by some Lexxus-drivin, cell-phone-talkin, Starbucks-drinkin' rush hour me-i'm-so-important ijit three times in the last 6 months. They are so busy eating breakfast, checking their email, putting on makeup (i saw one woman with a freakin' eyelash curler one morning), trying to be the first one to the toll plaza that they just run up right behind you. So making the Toll Road SAFE for bikes is the first step. Apart from that I love riding on the toll road; I just gotta be rally hard-pressed to do it in rush our. As we used to say in High School, Virginia Drivers=no survivors. no offense to all of you in VA! -patti (and i feel better after that! From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 14:30:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11104.mail.yahoo.com (web11104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JIUkf27702 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919171609.3994.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:16:09 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:16:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: RE: Lane splitting To: Dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's still going to be a crime. Hopefully assault w/ a deadly weapon or attempted murder. Seeing a crime in progress doesn't permit the driver to commit another criminal act in response to it (unless there's imminent danger to other citizens which isn't the case here). You're also talking about a possible felony crime in response to a purely civil crime. Chris --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > If a car hits you while you are filtering to the > front intentionaly, who is > at fault? Does it depend on witnesses. Lets say > someone in a car opened a > door and it seemed obvious to what he was up to. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 16:50:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JKoef29993 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CJ144294A (A040-0454.MLE2.splitrock.net [64.198.131.200]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f8JKoLG72014; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:50:25 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-CYCLES" , "patti rodgers" Subject: I'm a Daddy! RE: flag ride update??? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:50:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <180901261.32609@webbox.com> Amid all this mess- Isabella Sarah Curtis came into the world early this morning. 7lbs. 4oz. Ten fingers, ten toes and a head of black hair (like her daddy). Since Helene had a C-Section, I'll be taking care of the missus and my new daughter for a few days. I'll try to rearange the Flag ride for next week with the help of any listers that have an adminastrative nature. Now, back to the hospital! Cheers! Rob C. From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 17:00:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9607.mail.yahoo.com (web9607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.186]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JL0Uf00302 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919210019.66571.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:00:19 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:00:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: I'm a Daddy! RE: flag ride update??? To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES , patti rodgers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CONGRATS!!! :-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Rob Curtis wrote: > Amid all this mess- Isabella Sarah Curtis came into > the world early this > morning. 7lbs. 4oz. Ten fingers, ten toes and a head > of black hair (like her > daddy). > > > Rob C. > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 18:01:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13308.mail.yahoo.com (web13308.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.44]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JM1if01300 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919193835.12996.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [159.40.33.240] by web13308.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:38:35 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:38:35 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: RE: Lane splitting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you are lane splitting (and probably filtering, since filtering is simply lane splitting at a reduced speed in stopped traffic) then you are breaking the law. If someone opens the door or moves their car in front of you, I don't think you would have much of a leg to stand on in court. I'm fairly sure the judge would rule against you. "Your honor, I was simply opening my door to spit and here comes this SPORTBIKE, illegally swerving through traffic, that runs into my door." I am surprised that people think their time is more valuable than anyone elses. So you happen to take off more quickly than the cars behind you, you still delay their trip, even for a few seconds. That one second could be important to the person you cut off, and how can you justify your time being more important than theirs? --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > > I have Filtered and lane splitted to the front of > lines in Va, Dc, And MD. > and in many cases in front of many police cruisers > and never had a problem. > I usually get reactions when traffic is backed up in > College Park near the > university of Maryland. Cars pushing me out of my > lane etc... > > If a car hits you while you are filtering to the > front intentionaly, who is > at fault? Does it depend on witnesses. Lets say > someone in a car opened a > door and it seemed obvious to what he was up to. > > Ricardo Pontes > > __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 18:30:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13904.mail.yahoo.com (web13904.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JMUof01834 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919210925.73431.qmail@web13904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.21.76.2] by web13904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:09:25 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:09:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Re: I'm a Daddy! RE: flag ride update??? To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES , patti rodgers In-Reply-To: <20010919210019.66571.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Great news. It is good to her something wonderful like this after recent events. Keith --- Jeannette wrote: > CONGRATS!!! :-) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > --- Rob Curtis wrote: > > Amid all this mess- Isabella Sarah Curtis came > into > > the world early this > > morning. 7lbs. 4oz. Ten fingers, ten toes and a > head > > of black hair (like her > > daddy). > > > > > > Rob C. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 18:43:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2 (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JMhZf02004 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:43:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p59.a4.du.radix.net [207.192.130.187]) by pop2 (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA05870 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:43:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: Subject: RE: Lane splitting Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 18:48:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c1415d$51449e60$bb82c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010919193835.12996.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal If you are lane splitting (and probably filtering, since filtering is simply lane splitting at a reduced speed in stopped traffic) then you are breaking the law. If someone opens the door or moves their car in front of you, I don't think you would have much of a leg to stand on in court. I'm fairly sure the judge would rule against you. I wouldn't do it. And I suspect that the cop coming to the scene of a wrecked bike, rider and doorless cage would have little sympathy for the cage operator as they were hauled off to jail on felony assault charges. Further, blocking someone no matter what your intentions *can* (not always) amount to the civil infraction of 'illegal imprisonment'. "Your honor, I was simply opening my door to spit and here comes this SPORTBIKE, illegally swerving through traffic, that runs into my door." "Bail set at $10,000.00 cash or bond". "next?!" I am surprised that people think their time is more valuable than anyone elses. So you happen to take off more quickly than the cars behind you, you still delay their trip, even for a few seconds. That one second could be important to the person you cut off, and how can you justify your time being more important than theirs? I'm surprised people get so bent out of shape over filtering or splitting. I don't usually do it myself, but it hardly calls for vengeance... Just in case anyone witnesses such an event in person in the commonwealth - Use of lethal force is ONLY justified in the defense of self or "A KNOWN INNOCENT" and there is an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm. so don't get TOO carried away... Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 19:02:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8JN2of02362 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f8JN2kn31357; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:02:46 -0400 From: laura granato To: "Rob Curtis" , "DC-CYCLES" , "patti rodgers" Subject: Re: I'm a Daddy! RE: flag ride update??? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:03:06 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01091919030612.02841@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 19 September 2001 16:50, Rob Curtis wrote: > Amid all this mess- Isabella Sarah Curtis came into the world early this > morning. 7lbs. 4oz. Ten fingers, ten toes and a head of black hair (like > her daddy). > congratulations! and I'm happy to hear there will be another female motorcyclist in this world. ;-) Laura From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 19:12:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13808.mail.yahoo.com (web13808.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8JNChf02545 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:12:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919205511.34108.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13808.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:55:11 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:55:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Bike Night is this SUNDAY To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just wanted to remind everyone that the final Bikenight of the year is this Sunday. At CarPool in Arlington, 5-9PM Details at the website below: ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 20:24:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13804.mail.yahoo.com (web13804.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.14]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8K0Okf03706 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:24:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010919230109.60318.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.247.85.252] by web13804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:01:09 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: RE: Lane splitting To: stephen cutchins , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010919193835.12996.qmail@web13308.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii bulls**t. just because someone breaks the law, does not allow you to take action. If you see someone stealing a car stereo, then blow his brains out, that is still murder. I lane split all the time. Don't be so damm preachy. Mark --- stephen cutchins wrote: > If you are lane splitting (and probably filtering, > since filtering is simply lane splitting at a > reduced > speed in stopped traffic) then you are breaking the > law. If someone opens the door or moves their car > in > front of you, I don't think you would have much of a > leg to stand on in court. I'm fairly sure the judge > would rule against you. > > "Your honor, I was simply opening my door to spit > and > here comes this SPORTBIKE, illegally swerving > through > traffic, that runs into my door." > > I am surprised that people think their time is more > valuable than anyone elses. So you happen to take > off > more quickly than the cars behind you, you still > delay > their trip, even for a few seconds. That one second > could be important to the person you cut off, and > how > can you justify your time being more important than > theirs? > > --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > > > > > > I have Filtered and lane splitted to the front of > > lines in Va, Dc, And MD. > > and in many cases in front of many police cruisers > > and never had a problem. > > I usually get reactions when traffic is backed up > in > > College Park near the > > university of Maryland. Cars pushing me out of my > > lane etc... > > > > If a car hits you while you are filtering to the > > front intentionaly, who is > > at fault? Does it depend on witnesses. Lets say > > someone in a car opened a > > door and it seemed obvious to what he was up to. > > > > Ricardo Pontes > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 20:25:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8K0Prf03719 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:25:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ix.netcom.com (dialup-166.90.29.147.Dial1.Washington1.Level3.net [166.90.29.147]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA32343; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3BA9377C.190B0C7A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:25:32 -0400 From: Chuck Pena Reply-To: the_penas@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES Subject: Re: I'm a Daddy! RE: flag ride update??? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob, Congrats! It's great to hear some good news. Welcome to the ranks of "motorcycle dad". Chuck Rob Curtis wrote: > > Amid all this mess- Isabella Sarah Curtis came into the world early this > morning. 7lbs. 4oz. Ten fingers, ten toes and a head of black hair (like her > daddy). -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 20:33:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from k-kdom.nishanet.com ([63.168.126.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8K0Xjf03890 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brownleeb.nishanet.com (unverified [204.94.239.173]) by k-kdom.nishanet.com (Vircom SMTPRS 4.6.189) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:21:21 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20010919200209.00a8cbf0@k-kdom.nishanet.com> X-Sender: brownlee_b@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:16:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bruce Brownlee Subject: Re: lane splitting... In-Reply-To: <200109192301.f8JN1Lx02296@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed oh, you guys are rich! i tell you what? lets just all agree among ourselves to suspend all rules for riders... ok? hey, no speed limit in montana! therefore none here either. lane splitting allowed in CA? we'll do it here too! death sentance for first time DWI in middle east? well, we'll be SELECTIVE about the laws we are allowed to break here. hint 1. 2 vehicles side by side in a lane is illegal in VA (as well as MD by reports). hint 2. it doesnt make a DAMN bit of difference how you rationalize it, hint 1 is still the law. and if you get hurt violating a law, i dont think that the fact that YOU thought it was a stupid law will really change things. do us all a favor, try becoming a responsible member of society. this means abiding by laws THAT APPLY TO ALL PEOPLE until they are changed. dont like the laws? book a room in richmond and get them changed! hell, i bet people would give you money to do it! (some call them lobbyists) i was quite happy with a recent change of attitude in VA. now, they have gone a long way toward blaming road rage on the stupid people of the world. in the driver ed classes they teach that you must stay right except to pass, and all kinds of 'civil' driving techniques. a publication i read placed the blame for road rage squarely on the shoulders of people who violated the common decency provisions of living in a society. i NEVER look to my right when exiting (in my car) for someone who might be running the shoulder. sometimes i've been accused of timing my exit just as someone running the shoulder came by.... oh well... theres an intersection out in front of my office that has weekly accidents involving people who thought they were doing a public service by running the light (it keeps the flow running) or speeding (i was just trying to keep from holding up the person behind me). some of em dont look too good as they get hauled off, but hey, in their mind, they were still right..... so, you know, they next time you get cast with a broad brush, as a hoodlum biker, keep in mind that you are still right.... its the whole rest of the world thats screwed up.... From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 20:58:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f292.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.167]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8K0wlf04315 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:58:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:47:28 -0700 Received: from 24.4.252.26 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 00:47:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.252.26] From: "Jay Block" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 09/19/01 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:47:28 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2001 00:47:28.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[D2F707D0:01C1416D] Okay, it IS illegal to lane split, unlike California where it is acceptable. It violates the "one vehicle in a lane at a time" rule. That is one of the reasons why motorcycles ride staggered. Technically there is only one vehicle in the lane at a time. Second reason, and a better one, is the road ragers who are stuck in traffic and pissed off and see someone cutting between cars. They have a tendency to open car doors in front of the motorcycle. Now, think about when you are stuck in traffic and someone drives up the emergency lane. How pissed off are you at them? Don't you just want to nail them with you faser canon? Yet, they haven't hurt you by doing so, only in they block an emergency vehicle is it an issue. But don't you just love it when you see them pulled over by a cop and issued a ticket and pray the judge doesn't give them probation? The theory of civilization is the giving up of some of our freedom of individuality for the good of the whole. Otherwise who cares who stops at stop signs or red lights. Back to you folks... Jay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 21:39:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8K1dnf05072 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 01:39:11 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: I'm a Daddy! RE: flag ride update??? Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:38:42 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Congratulations !!! Now just make sure she doesn't mix up with them Harley riders ;) Niv -----Original Message----- From: Rob Curtis [mailto:rmcurtis@XXXXXX] Sent: Wed, September 19, 2001 4:50 PM To: DC-CYCLES; patti rodgers Subject: I'm a Daddy! RE: flag ride update??? Amid all this mess- Isabella Sarah Curtis came into the world early this morning. 7lbs. 4oz. Ten fingers, ten toes and a head of black hair (like her daddy). Since Helene had a C-Section, I'll be taking care of the missus and my new daughter for a few days. I'll try to rearange the Flag ride for next week with the help of any listers that have an adminastrative nature. Now, back to the hospital! Cheers! Rob C. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 22:02:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8K22Af05516 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO (1Cust147.tnt39.tco2.da.uu.net [63.48.140.147]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f8K21sP51726; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001601c14178$573bc3a0$b089303f@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Cc: , "William J. Huson" Subject: You go boy... Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:02:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 >Let us know when you get back. You are one of the only Harley riders on this list. Hey, We're out here. We may just lurk more often than speak. You metric sport-biker types (that "tongue-in-cheek"-ily encompasses all bikes that aren't Harleys. Please, no flames. It's just a joke. I'm just funning, OK? Easy now...) are way too zealous about all this biker stuff sometimes. Lane Splitting? Not in my lifetime, or should I say, my bikes lifetime. Baggers aren't gymnasts; they can't do the split. Of course, when was the last time I was riding in the city? Last summer I think. Ahh, country living. (But I would rather have the option of lane-splitting/filtering rather than the option of wearing a lid. Hey AMA, where are my friggin' dollars going, anyway?) Nah, I'd rather sit back, kick up the feet on the pegs, set the throttle screw and watch the world go by. I've done it for over 7,000 miles so far this summer on my (once-) new FLHT. I never knew riding could be this good. Anyone want to tag along with me down to VIR next Thursday? General idea: Leave Frederick area about 6:30-6:45, down 340 to Waynesboro, BRP to Meadows of Dan, on east via 58 to the track. Let me know directly, I'm a digested reader. Have a great trip, Bill. Take some pictures from the saddle. Action shots are the coolest. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project (For Sale) BTW - Laura, where are all these cutie Bikers of which you speak? They must be in the city somewhere... From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 22:34:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13301.mail.yahoo.com (web13301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.37]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8K2Ycf06015 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010920023414.57517.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.91.136.232] by web13301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:34:14 PDT Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:34:14 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: RE: Lane splitting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010919230109.60318.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Who is preaching? Read what I'm saying again, pay attention, you might get my point the second try. I'm simply saying that if someone opens a door, and you run into it WHILE BREAKING THE LAW, that I doubt you would have a leg to stand on in court. In fact, I am fairly positive that you wouldn't since you were in fact breaking the law and the driver of the car was not. I'm not saying that drivers SHOULD open doors, but I am saying that if he did (I am assuming he did so for a legal reason, say to spit his wad o'chew) and you hit his door then in fact you would be responsible for damage to his door, and you would most surely receive a ticket to boot. --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > bulls**t. just because someone breaks the law, does > not allow you to take action. If you see someone > stealing a car stereo, then blow his brains out, > that > is still murder. > > I lane split all the time. Don't be so damm > preachy. > > Mark > > --- stephen cutchins > wrote: > > If you are lane splitting (and probably filtering, > > since filtering is simply lane splitting at a > > reduced > > speed in stopped traffic) then you are breaking > the > > law. If someone opens the door or moves their car > > in > > front of you, I don't think you would have much of > a > > leg to stand on in court. I'm fairly sure the > judge > > would rule against you. > > > > "Your honor, I was simply opening my door to spit > > and > > here comes this SPORTBIKE, illegally swerving > > through > > traffic, that runs into my door." > > > > I am surprised that people think their time is > more > > valuable than anyone elses. So you happen to take > > off > > more quickly than the cars behind you, you still > > delay > > their trip, even for a few seconds. That one > second > > could be important to the person you cut off, and > > how > > can you justify your time being more important > than > > theirs? > > > > --- Ricardo Pontes > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Filtered and lane splitted to the front > of > > > lines in Va, Dc, And MD. > > > and in many cases in front of many police > cruisers > > > and never had a problem. > > > I usually get reactions when traffic is backed > up > > in > > > College Park near the > > > university of Maryland. Cars pushing me out of > my > > > lane etc... > > > > > > If a car hits you while you are filtering to the > > > front intentionaly, who is > > > at fault? Does it depend on witnesses. Lets say > > > someone in a car opened a > > > door and it seemed obvious to what he was up > to. > > > > > > Ricardo Pontes > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 22:41:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.146]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8K2fDf06098 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vaio ([24.6.106.133]) by femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010920024052.DCGP14240.femail21.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vaio> for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 19:40:52 -0700 Message-ID: <001901c1417e$004214e0$6401a8c0@Home> From: "James Reazor" To: References: <5.0.2.1.1.20010919200209.00a8cbf0@k-kdom.nishanet.com> Subject: Re: lane splitting... Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:43:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > hint 1. 2 vehicles side by side in a lane is illegal in VA (as well > as MD by reports). > hint 2. it doesnt make a DAMN bit of difference how you rationalize > it, hint 1 is still the law. and if you get hurt violating a law, i dont > think that the fact that YOU thought it was a stupid law will really > change things. Remember that argument next time you're doing 65 in a 55. Of course, if you never speed, you have my heart felt apologies. -James '00 SV650 From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 23:11:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8K3BZf06650 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 311homebase ([24.163.97.64]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:11:20 -0400 Message-ID: <005001c14181$ec8684f0$6401a8c0@311homebase> From: "DC Anderson III" To: References: <20010920023414.57517.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lane splitting Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:11:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I don't say much, but even though CA law allows allows lane splitting or filtering, any accident caused while motorcyclist is moving between traffic (stopped or moving) is the fault of the motorcyclist, end of story. On another more upsetting note, a San Fran DJ became upset at a motorcyclist on his way to the station last spring and told his audience that all car driver open their doors to cause an accident! kinda an extreme cause of jealous car driver syndrome if you ask me... oh, i usually pass on the right side at red lights, thus only the passenger could open their door to stop me. DC Anderson III 2000 YZF-R6 Fairfax, VA USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen cutchins" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 22:34 Subject: RE: Lane splitting > Who is preaching? Read what I'm saying again, pay > attention, you might get my point the second try. > > I'm simply saying that if someone opens a door, and > you run into it WHILE BREAKING THE LAW, that I doubt > you would have a leg to stand on in court. In fact, I > am fairly positive that you wouldn't since you were in > fact breaking the law and the driver of the car was > not. I'm not saying that drivers SHOULD open doors, > but I am saying that if he did (I am assuming he did > so for a legal reason, say to spit his wad o'chew) and > you hit his door then in fact you would be responsible > for damage to his door, and you would most surely > receive a ticket to boot. > > --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > > bulls**t. just because someone breaks the law, does > > not allow you to take action. If you see someone > > stealing a car stereo, then blow his brains out, > > that > > is still murder. > > > > I lane split all the time. Don't be so damm > > preachy. > > > > Mark > > > > --- stephen cutchins > > wrote: > > > If you are lane splitting (and probably filtering, > > > since filtering is simply lane splitting at a > > > reduced > > > speed in stopped traffic) then you are breaking > > the > > > law. If someone opens the door or moves their car > > > in > > > front of you, I don't think you would have much of > > a > > > leg to stand on in court. I'm fairly sure the > > judge > > > would rule against you. > > > > > > "Your honor, I was simply opening my door to spit > > > and > > > here comes this SPORTBIKE, illegally swerving > > > through > > > traffic, that runs into my door." > > > > > > I am surprised that people think their time is > > more > > > valuable than anyone elses. So you happen to take > > > off > > > more quickly than the cars behind you, you still > > > delay > > > their trip, even for a few seconds. That one > > second > > > could be important to the person you cut off, and > > > how > > > can you justify your time being more important > > than > > > theirs? > > > > > > --- Ricardo Pontes > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Filtered and lane splitted to the front > > of > > > > lines in Va, Dc, And MD. > > > > and in many cases in front of many police > > cruisers > > > > and never had a problem. > > > > I usually get reactions when traffic is backed > > up > > > in > > > > College Park near the > > > > university of Maryland. Cars pushing me out of > > my > > > > lane etc... > > > > > > > > If a car hits you while you are filtering to the > > > > front intentionaly, who is > > > > at fault? Does it depend on witnesses. Lets say > > > > someone in a car opened a > > > > door and it seemed obvious to what he was up > > to. > > > > > > > > Ricardo Pontes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Sep 19 23:42:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f8K3guf07175 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Sep 2001 03:42:54 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: Subject: RE: Lane splitting Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:42:22 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <005001c14181$ec8684f0$6401a8c0@311homebase> In DC, I believe, a motorcycle is allowed to share a lane with a parked car. I got stopped once (for alleged speeding) and that seemed to hold. Then again, the officer that stopped me was so clueless I could have told her anything. Niv BMW F650ST Love to play the Britta -----Original Message----- From: DC Anderson III [mailto:dcanderson_iii@XXXXXX] Sent: Wed, September 19, 2001 11:11 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Lane splitting I don't say much, but even though CA law allows allows lane splitting or filtering, any accident caused while motorcyclist is moving between traffic (stopped or moving) is the fault of the motorcyclist, end of story. On another more upsetting note, a San Fran DJ became upset at a motorcyclist on his way to the station last spring and told his audience that all car driver open their doors to cause an accident! kinda an extreme cause of jealous car driver syndrome if you ask me... oh, i usually pass on the right side at red lights, thus only the passenger could open their door to stop me. DC Anderson III 2000 YZF-R6 Fairfax, VA USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "stephen cutchins" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 22:34 Subject: RE: Lane splitting > Who is preaching? Read what I'm saying again, pay > attention, you might get my point the second try. > > I'm simply saying that if someone opens a door, and > you run into it WHILE BREAKING THE LAW, that I doubt > you would have a leg to stand on in court. In fact, I > am fairly positive that you wouldn't since you were in > fact breaking the law and the driver of the car was > not. I'm not saying that drivers SHOULD open doors, > but I am saying that if he did (I am assuming he did > so for a legal reason, say to spit his wad o'chew) and > you hit his door then in fact you would be responsible > for damage to his door, and you would most surely > receive a ticket to boot. > > --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > > bulls**t. just because someone breaks the law, does > > not allow you to take action. If you see someone > > stealing a car stereo, then blow his brains out, > > that > > is still murder. > > > > I lane split all the time. Don't be so damm > > preachy. > > > > Mark > > > > --- stephen cutchins > > wrote: > > > If you are lane splitting (and probably filtering, > > > since filtering is simply lane splitting at a > > > reduced > > > speed in stopped traffic) then you are breaking > > the > > > law. If someone opens the door or moves their car > > > in > > > front of you, I don't think you would have much of > > a > > > leg to stand on in court. I'm fairly sure the > > judge > > > would rule against you. > > > > > > "Your honor, I was simply opening my door to spit > > > and > > > here comes this SPORTBIKE, illegally swerving > > > through > > > traffic, that runs into my door." > > > > > > I am surprised that people think their time is > > more > > > valuable than anyone elses. So you happen to take > > > off > > > more quickly than the cars behind you, you still > > > delay > > > their trip, even for a few seconds. That one > > second > > > could be important to the person you cut off, and > > > how > > > can you justify your time being more important > > than > > > theirs? > > > > > > --- Ricardo Pontes > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have Filtered and lane splitted to the front > > of > > > > lines in Va, Dc, And MD. > > > > and in many cases in front of many police > > cruisers > > > > and never had a problem. > > > > I usually get reactions when traffic is backed > > up > > > in > > > > College Park near the > > > > university of Maryland. Cars pushing me out of > > my > > > > lane etc... > > > > > > > > If a car hits you while you are filtering to the > > > > front intentionaly, who is > > > > at fault? Does it depend on witnesses. Lets say > > > > someone in a car opened a > > > > door and it seemed obvious to what he was up > > to. > > > > > > > > Ricardo Pontes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > > > > ===== > > http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > > Donate cash, emergency relief information > > > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 20 01:33:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f120.hotmail.com [216.32.181.120]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8K5Xsf08808 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:22:39 -0700 Received: from 63.21.243.3 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 05:22:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.21.243.3] From: "Kenneth Shephard" To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX, lantech.cwd@XXXXXX Subject: RE: flag ride update??? Congrats!! Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:22:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2001 05:22:39.0784 (UTC) FILETIME=[442CDA80:01C14194] First Congratulations, now finding the time to ride becomes even more fun ;) Anyway In planning for the Penatagon Flag Ride consider this additional info also, posted from WJLA. Wednesday September 19 07:46 PM EDT No Relief in Sight for Traffic Delays Arlington County officials say traffic congestion stretching back several miles has been a common problem for commuters this week. With the Pentagon (news - web sites) and other military facilities under threat condition "Charlie" and Washington Boulevard still closed, commuters may not see relief forthcoming. Deputy Police Chief John Haas says long delays are possible through the area, particularly along Interstate-395 and Route 50. Haas says motorists should be patient but he's also urging employers to consider flex-time and telecommuting or encourage employees to use public transportation. It is not clear when the stretch of highway around the Pentagon will re-open. Meanwhile, the Metro continues to run its buses in the Pentagon area from alternate locations. Some stops have been moved to Pentagon City, while others have been moved to locations just beyond the expanded Pentagon security zone. It may be a while folks. I'm typing this having just got back from work down there, and its still a mess. Probably will be for a while yet. Maybe some weekend in October, the 6th 0r 7th perhaps would be giving revovery operations enough time to get things opened up where we could actually do it up right, just my .02$ But I'm game whenever you guys are. I had hoped to do it this Saturday, but I no longer feel that would be responsible as things stand now. Ken S........ Ride Safe and Forever Free Inwood WV HDKnight@XXXXXX AIM HDKnight1 ICQ #32289311 >From: "Rob Curtis" >Reply-To: >To: "DC-CYCLES" , "patti rodgers" > >Amid all this mess- Isabella Sarah Curtis came into the world early this >morning. 7lbs. 4oz. Ten fingers, ten toes and a head of black hair (like >her >daddy). > >Since Helene had a C-Section, I'll be taking care of the missus and my new >daughter for a few days. I'll try to rearange the Flag ride for next week >with the help of any listers that have an adminastrative nature. > >Now, back to the hospital! >Cheers! > >Rob C. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Thu Sep 20 01:57:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-oe28.hotmail.com [216.32.180.21]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f8K5umf09123 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:56:28 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [63.21.243.3] From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: BATTLETRAX at Frederick Buell/Harry Grove Stadium on Sunday 9/23 @noon Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:55:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C14177.5946A440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "Ken" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2001 05:56:28.0722 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD843920:01C14198] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C14177.5946A440 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0009_01C14177.5946A440" ------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C14177.5946A440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On a much lighter note, Buell of Frederick is sponsoring a BATTLETRAX at = Frederick Buell /Harry Grove Stadium at boon on 9/23. Battletrax is a = closed cone course against the clock similar to Autocross. It's all = brands etc...No Fee's, just appropriate rider gear. Kenneth R. Shephard HDKnight@XXXXXX Ride Safe! Inwood WV ------=_NextPart_001_0009_01C14177.5946A440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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