From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 00:07:57 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01759 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA18910 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (known imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA14788 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:07:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WGCZa02343 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:07:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <650671d5.3612ffe9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:07:05 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Paging Art Crow....paging Art Crow... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Art, are you still lurking out there? If so, would you be so kind as to let me know where you're hiding in this vast electronic landscape? Had a few questions for you on some Givi stuff..... much obliged, -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 00:25:46 1998 Return-Path: harry@XXXXXX Received: from dirtydog.meretrix.com (dirtydog.meretrix.com [209.116.254.23]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA02508 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dirtydog.meretrix.com (localhost.meretrix.com [127.0.0.1]) by dirtydog.meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA16994 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:25:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from harry@XXXXXX) Message-Id: <199810010425.AAA16994@dirtydog.meretrix.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ruminations on Harley Davidsons and such Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 00:25:49 -0400 From: Harry Mantakos I've never ridden a Harley. I'd like to, though. Harleys are motorcycles, and I like motorcycles. Harleys are very shiny, and I like the way they sound. My bike is a Kawasaki. It's nice, it's a motorcycle too. It's kind of heavy, and the fairing is sort of bent to one side from when the bike tipped over into a Volvo in the next parking space. Volvo's are okay too, I suppose, they don't tip over, but I prefer motorcycles anyway. I've never had a tattoo'ed halter-top wearing woman on the back of my bike. I wouldn't mind trying that some time, though, I bet she'd actually be very nice once I got to know her, and we'd both like motorcycles. Sometimes when I'm riding, I ride faster than other people and I have to go around them. Sometimes other people ride faster than me, and they have to go around me. I like to wave to them. Sometimes when it looks like it's going to rain, I drive my car to work. I like motorcycles, but my car has a roof. I ride my motorcycle again after it stops raining. If I had a lot of money, I'd buy one of every kind of motorcycle, and I'd ride a different one every day. When the day rolled around when it was time to ride the Pacific Coast, I think I'd say "why'd I have to buy so many damn motorcycles, any way". Thank you, -harry From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 00:30:02 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA02595 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomspc.mindspring.com (user-38lcmik.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.90.84]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA27518; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981001002834.006a4780@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: zellto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 00:28:34 -0400 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Thomas W. Zell" Subject: Re: Shifter Problem In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA848E3@BADGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To all those people who replied to this question...here is the answer... First of all the VFR has a very smooth transmission and is designed with good 'ole Honda engineering. No WD40 is going to fix the problem. Two things are causing this(as I sat and thought about for a bit). First... the oil has been changed to a heavier viscosity than what was in there. I did this because of the extreme summer heat and all that good stuff. Since the mornings have been chillier the oil remains a little thicker than what we were used to. Second... the clutch lever has been replaced do to a slight incident in the driveway. It most likely needs an adjustment(as I noticed a couple of days ago that it didn't engage until way out). The new handle has just broken itself in compounding the problem(VFRs use hydraulic clutches). Needless to say I'll be taking care of it tomorrow evening. :-) -Tom '86 VFR750 At 12:21 PM 9/30/98 -0400, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >Has anyone had this problem before: can't get bike to shift into >neutral when you first start riding it down the road, then, after it's >warmed up, it's fine. This problem just started in the last week or so. >What do I need to do? WD-40 on the lever or something? ; ) > >- Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 00:50:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03438 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA19540 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (known cap1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA15547 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:50:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id AAA25851; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:49:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:49:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycle Subject: Re: Call me a feminist... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "I have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat." --Rebecca West, 1913 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 03:04:31 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA09399 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomspc.mindspring.com (user-38lciun.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.75.215]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA13678 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 03:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981001030249.006a395c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: zellto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 03:02:49 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Thomas W. Zell" Subject: Re: Shifter Problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981001002834.006a4780@pop.mindspring.com> References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA848E3@BADGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Actually, the clutch lever has to be in just about at the clipon for the clutch to disengage... sorry.. i was half asleep when i wrote it. Tom At 12:28 AM 10/1/98 -0400, Thomas W. Zell wrote: >To all those people who replied to this question...here is the answer... > >First of all the VFR has a very smooth transmission and is designed with >good 'ole Honda engineering. No WD40 is going to fix the problem. Two >things are causing this(as I sat and thought about for a bit). First... >the oil has been changed to a heavier viscosity than what was in there. I >did this because of the extreme summer heat and all that good stuff. Since >the mornings have been chillier the oil remains a little thicker than what >we were used to. Second... the clutch lever has been replaced do to a >slight incident in the driveway. It most likely needs an adjustment(as I >noticed a couple of days ago that it didn't engage until way out). The new >handle has just broken itself in compounding the problem(VFRs use hydraulic >clutches). Needless to say I'll be taking care of it tomorrow evening. :-) > >-Tom >'86 VFR750 > >At 12:21 PM 9/30/98 -0400, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >>Has anyone had this problem before: can't get bike to shift into >>neutral when you first start riding it down the road, then, after it's >>warmed up, it's fine. This problem just started in the last week or so. >>What do I need to do? WD-40 on the lever or something? ; ) >> >>- Jeannette >> '86 VFR 700 F2 >> >> >> > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 05:44:55 1998 Return-Path: louis@XXXXXX Received: from postal.clark.net (postal.clark.net [168.143.0.17]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA16262 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:44:53 -0400 (EDT) From: louis@XXXXXX Received: from shell.clark.net (clark.net [168.143.0.8]) by postal.clark.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA19195 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01608 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810010944.FAA01608@shell.clark.net> Subject: E-mail list atonement To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:44:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement, where we ask G-d and our fellow men and women for forgiveness for our sins. The following was posted on the Jewish Humor list, and while Jewish people may recognize the structure more immediately (it is modeled after a set of prayers that are recited on Yom Kippur) it is still fun, and true for all e-mail lists. Maybe I should add something about overzealous brand loyalty.... nah. Louis --------------------------------------------------------------------- T H E J E W I S H H U M O R L I S T --------------------------------------------------------------------- For the sin which we have committed by responding too often, And for the sin which we have committed by not posting at all when we have something valuable to say; For the sin which we have committed by responding angrily in haste, And for the sin which we have committed by posting private email in a public forum; For the sin which we have committed by misinterpreting others' words, And for the sin which we have committed by not expressing ourselves clearly; For the sin which we have committed by being sarcastic to other list members, And for the sin which we have committed by not being tolerant of their positions; For the sin which we have committed by not explaining technical terms, And for the sin which we have committed by assuming others know as much as we do; For the sin which we have committed by posting announcements directly, And for the sin which we have committed by posting subscription commands to the list; For the sin which we have committed by forwarding messages without introduction And for the sin which we have committed by cross-posting our own messages to many other lists; For the sin which we have committed by not using an appropriate subject line, And for the sin which we have committed by having a long .signature file; For the sin which we have committed by quoting others' posts in their entirety, And for the sin which we have committed by not providing context to our replies; For all of these, Forgiving One, Forgive Us, Pardon Us, and Grant Us Atonement. copyright © 1995, 1998, Mark Frydenberg ---------- From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 05:56:03 1998 Return-Path: leerider@XXXXXX Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [209.30.0.40]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA16652 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:56:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laser (p57.sas1.dialup.bwi1.flash.net [208.194.198.57]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA21002 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 04:54:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <36135003.5E4C@flash.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 05:48:51 -0400 From: Lee Powell Reply-To: leerider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Ruminations on Harley Davidsons and such References: <199810010425.AAA16994@dirtydog.meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harry Mantakos wrote: > I've never ridden a Harley. I'd like to, though. Harry, if you ever get the opportunity to ride one, leave yourself plenty of stopping distance; at LEAST twice as much as you're used to. > I've never had a > tattoo'ed halter-top wearing woman on the back of my bike. > I wouldn't mind trying that some time, though, I bet she'd actually > be very nice once I got to know her, and we'd both like motorcycles. Severely overrated activity. > Sometimes when I'm riding, I ride faster than other people and I have > to go around them. You won't ever have to worry about this on a Harley. > I like to wave to them. Don't ever wave when you're on a Harley. I think it must void the warranty or something. > If I had a lot of money, I'd buy one of every kind of motorcycle, > and I'd ride a different one every day. Kudos. But you could buy 2 of almost anything else for what you would pay for one Harley. Oh, one more thing, if you do ride a Harley, take along plenty of quarters to call towing services. Lee From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 06:22:59 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA17890 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA22911 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:22:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (known imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA19381 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:22:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 7RMMa18748; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6f17eefe.361357d3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:22:11 EDT To: ghowell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Another newbie Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 9/30/98 11:42:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ghowell@XXXXXX writes: << Disagree about the Buell's. Too much torque, and too grippy stoppers for a ham-fisted newbie. >> Well, i have never ridden one so you are probably right. It's the way they look, if you drop one how can you tell its been dropped? Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 06:32:21 1998 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA18024 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id RRLAa02301; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <670da080.361356f1@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:18:25 EDT To: dankenney@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Fun Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 9/30/98 9:57:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dankenney@XXXXXX writes: << Whom ever wrote this obviously didnt see the big smiles on me,Jon and Fred's faces during our ride last sunday. >> Dan, The guy came and went between the time of your last post and this post. LOLOLOL Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 06:36:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA18375 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:36:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA23018 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:36:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (known imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA19484 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WTEMa19215 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1b0d5308.36135ace@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:34:54 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Weekend Ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Haven't seen any ride proposals, anyone thinking of going for a ride Saturday or Sunday. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 06:46:37 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA18772 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:46:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by PENTAGON-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:44:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Another newbie Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:44:55 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) However, at 250 lbs. I'd get an XX or ZX-11 for the heavy racer feel. And I'd take off the lower plastic for the first year. Buy a TL1000.....great starter bike. Snipped from other e-mails. Sorry guys I really disagree with you guys on this. All of the above mentioned bikes are NOT good beginner bikes. The only one I haven't ridden is the ZX-11 and I assume its not much different then the XX. All of these bikes are beasts and have WAY TO MUCH POWER FOR A BEGINNER. I think the Nighthawk is an excellent choice as is the other smaller bikes mentioned. Glenn From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 07:46:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20919 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23592 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:46:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rbhub100.chamb.disa.mil (known rbhub100.chamb.disa.mil [209.22.120.23]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA20310 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rbhub100.chamb.disa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:46:02 -0400 Message-ID: <5F21F6A15446D211B0730020484016A33C4F49@RBMAIL103> From: "Mersch, Tom" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Weekend Ride Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:51:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain > -----Original Message----- > From: Boiade@XXXXXX [SMTP:Boiade@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 6:35 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Weekend Ride > > Haven't seen any ride proposals, anyone thinking of going for a ride > Saturday > or Sunday. > > > Ciao, > > Fred > > [Mersch, Tom] Here's a possibility from the NOVAMGR list. If the Harley, Harley, Uber Alles guy is still on the list, ignore this as it involves a ride designed by a FEMINIST (Anita) AIIIEEEEEE!!! :-) >INVITATION TO COUNTRY ROADS RIDE SUNDAY, 10/4/98 You are invited to ride on the newest route in the NOVA MGR collection. It's called COUNTRY ROADS and it was designed by Anita Lauro, one of our fellow NOVA MGR riders. She took me up on a long-standing offer, open to anyone, to design a ride. The ride leaves from Manassas. It goes through or near Culpepper, and Front Royal. The ride ends in Middleburg. The weather is expected to be excellent with a high temperature of around 60 degrees, so dress accordingly. The morning is sure to be cooler. Even if you don't have a motorcycle, you are welcome join us for breakfast anyway! There is always a nice display of bikes in the parking lot. >>LOCATION - Old Country Buffet in Manassas off route 234 >>TIME - 8:00am to 8:45am for breakfast. Ride starts by 9am. >>DIRECTIONS - >>Head to Manassas via I-66 >>From I-66, take exit 47A (Route 234/Sudley Rd south) >>Proceed for about one mile >>Turn left into Westgate shopping center >>Old Country Buffet is behind Long John Silvers restaurant >>DETAILS - Meet for a huge all-you-can-eat breakfast buffet, >>which will cost about $6.50. OCB's legendary buffet is so >>good, you'll want to meet up with us on Sunday even if you >>don't ride a motorcycle. If you are not interested in having >>breakfast with the group, we plan to leave at 9am. I hope to see a lot of you there! I know Anita wants to see how much folks like her ride. Please arrive with enough fuel to ride up to 100 miles. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 08:18:28 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22142 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23957 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (known radagast.wizard.net [206.161.15.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21001 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tc2-s4.wizard.net (tc2-s4.wizard.net [206.161.15.80]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA29555; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:18:41 -0400 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita) To: Garcia Oliver Cc: dc-cycle Subject: Re: Call me a feminist... Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:23:12 -0400 Message-ID: <361f73e4.1190618261@smtp.wizard.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:49:49 -0400 (EDT), Garcia Oliver wrote: >"I have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I only=20 >know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that=20 >differentiate me from a doormat." > >--Rebecca West, 1913 That quote is PERFECT! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 08:19:37 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22399 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810011219.IAA22399@meretrix.com> Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A353125022E; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:19:31 EDT X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:09:45 -0400 To: dc-cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: duct tape In-Reply-To: <3612675B.DA81DB0D@tidalwave.net> References: <001c01bdec87$56f6d900$8df229a6@todd.arl.mcit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:16 PM 9/30/98 -0400, Dale Horstman wrote: >Yep, good ol' duct tape. If the ancient Pharaohs knew about >duct tape, I swear the Sphinx would still have a nose. :) Did you see the recent results from a test by heating/ventilating/air conditioning guys? Duct tape is not good for sealing ducts! but it's good for everything else, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 08:19:37 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22401 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810011219.IAA22401@meretrix.com> Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A34F125022E; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:19:30 EDT X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:19:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Hi! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I'm new to this area and just wanted to introduce myself - I've been riding since before I could walk, and I always ride - cars are only for weak people, like girls. I ride only the best, an Amazona. The bike is an icon, worshipped by many. If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer. They're so popular, there's a waiting list - which proves that they're the best bikes in the world. Anything less is for pussies, the pussy-whipped, and girls. Women really love my Amazona - many times, complete strangers walk up and offer to perform kinky sex acts on me and my dog. What a bike! I like loud pipes 'cause I want people to hear me and notice me. Heck, I even installed a WWII air raid siren and keep it running all the time - I definitely get noticed, and it has saved me from many accidents. I also want to be seen - can't be too safe! I've installed wide-beam headlights 360 degrees around my bike, so brain dead cagers approaching from ANY angle can see me. To provide the electricity necessary, I mounted a car's alternator to my bike. Even so, when I switch on the lights I have to always keep the engine above 3,000 rpm or it stalls from the electrical load. I wear only the best - leather from bulls. I don't want anything from cows or castrated steers, that's for wimps. And girls. Helmets can kill, so I never wear a helmet. I wear the scars on my face as a badge of pride. But I'm still a member of the MSF to support motorcycle rights, the AMA to get good safety instruction, and ABATE to fight against the killer power lines over my house. So that's the way it is, if anyone disagrees with me then they're wimps, or girls. signed, Falk Yew From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 08:19:36 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22400 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810011219.IAA22400@meretrix.com> Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A354125022E; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:19:32 EDT X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:21:59 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Two Questions... In-Reply-To: <36127360.43C74557@tidalwave.net> References: <199809301752.NAA31069@radagast.wizard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:07 PM 9/30/98 -0400, Dale Horstman wrote: >Well, I guess I better stand up and apologize. This guy was looking >for folks to do long distance rides with from Alan Wheat's NOVA ride >list. I told him about this DC cycles list and (shudder) the long distance >riders list. I didn't realize he had an inferiority complex >the size of Texas about his bike and was gonna come in here and slam >everyone's ride but his own. I can't wait to see him try that s**t on LDrider! He'll get eaten alive. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 08:33:39 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA22940 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810011233.IAA22940@meretrix.com> Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A6A014A022E; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:33:36 EDT X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:34:05 -0400 To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Hi In-Reply-To: <004401bdecc4$6a9162e0$3080e2cf@demon> References: <002a01bdec8f$c5bfc600$8df229a6@todd.arl.mcit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:48 PM 9/30/98 -0400, George Howell wrote: >Sadly, the only pair of gloves Angie could find that fit her have the HD >logo on them (yep, it was the last of about 20 stores we went to. And I >would have considered mail order, but it's too much of a hassle for >clothing) The best winter gloves I've ever owned are Harley gloves. I bought them from a Harley dealer, they say "Harley-Davidson" on them (with the little Registered mark). And they're made in Taiwan. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 08:38:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA23029 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA24138 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (known radagast.wizard.net [206.161.15.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21344 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tc2-s4.wizard.net (tc2-s4.wizard.net [206.161.15.80]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA30706; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:38:43 -0400 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita) To: "Mersch, Tom" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Weekend Ride Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 08:43:14 -0400 Message-ID: <362175a8.1191071176@smtp.wizard.net> References: <5F21F6A15446D211B0730020484016A33C4F49@RBMAIL103> In-Reply-To: <5F21F6A15446D211B0730020484016A33C4F49@RBMAIL103> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:51:34 -0400 , "Mersch, Tom" wrote: > Here's a possibility from the NOVAMGR list. If the Harley, Harley, >Uber Alles guy is still on the list, ignore this as it involves a ride >designed by a FEMINIST (Anita) AIIIEEEEEE!!! :-)=20 Actually, the highlight of this ride is a feminist rally on the Mall.... JUST KIDDING! :-) =46or anyone who's curious... the ride is going to be about 200 miles, starting in Manassas and ending in Middleburg (by a very roundabout route!). I've managed to string together quite a few fun motorcycling roads... ones I picked up from other group rides or poker runs. This will be a moderate pace ride, and new riders are very welcome to join us.=20 If anyone has any questions, please feel free to email me! Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:06:25 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net (relay4.smtp.psi.net [38.9.52.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24222 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay4.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zOiR0-0003YE-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:06:18 -0400 Received: by SUBSPACE with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:05:35 -0400 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA84904@BADGE> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'leerider@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles Subject: RE: JPB cliches Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:03:32 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Oh, and you missed one, sent to me privately: "If you were a REAL woman...." Hmm, I thought I was real. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Lee Powell [SMTP:leerider@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 5:06 PM > To: dc-cycles > Subject: JPB cliches > > In honor of the "Cream line forms to the right, ladies" Vietnam vet > who > was with us just long enough to make a memorable impression, I present > the "JPB cliches," cut and pasted as I read them. I probably missed a > bunch, and purposely left out all references to "feminists." > > louder pipes do save lives > > It may be trite, but nevertheless tru: If I have to explain it, ya > wouldna > understand. > > H-D is an American icon > > nothing feels, handles, looks, or sounds like a real motorcycle except > a > Harley > > punches aren't being pulled > > so if the shoe fits, wear it > > > To which I'd like to add: AMF > > Lee From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:15:59 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24621 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18009; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:17:04 -0400 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11BC5E3@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'leerider@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles Subject: RE: JPB cliches Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:17:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain w/o trying to offend Tom..... Last time I looked, you definitely appeared to be a real woman to me... Then again, you weren't dressed in cutoff shorts, a fringed leather halter top, and a ratty bandana covering your hair... maybe you're not a real woman, J :) What were you thinking.. real women don't ride their own bike... they're always on the back of their ole man's bike as a status symbol he he he > Oh, and you missed one, sent to me privately: > > "If you were a REAL woman...." > > Hmm, I thought I was real. > > - Jeannette > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:18:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24649 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:18:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA24685 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net (known relay4.smtp.psi.net [38.9.52.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22318 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay4.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zOicc-0004Qj-01; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:18:19 -0400 Received: by SUBSPACE with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:17:40 -0400 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA84908@BADGE> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Garcia Oliver'" , dc-cycle Subject: RE: Call me a feminist... Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:15:37 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I LOVE THAT!! > -----Original Message----- > From: Garcia Oliver [SMTP:garicao@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 12:50 AM > To: dc-cycle > Subject: Re: Call me a feminist... > > "I have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is; I only > > know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that > > differentiate me from a doormat." > > --Rebecca West, 1913 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:18:38 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal.visa.com (portal.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA24659 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:18:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal.visa.com id GAA26829 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:18:34 -0700 Received: by portal.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:18:34 -0700 Message-Id: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF2AAD58@sw730x023.visa.com> From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Hi! Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:18:34 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Heck, I even installed a WWII air raid siren > and keep it running all the time Chris - This part isn't totally deviod of merit...:-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:21:00 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net (relay4.smtp.psi.net [38.9.52.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24738 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:20:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay4.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zOif7-0004ca-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:20:53 -0400 Received: by SUBSPACE with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:20:12 -0400 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA84909@BADGE> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Another newbie Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:18:08 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I personally thought my VF 500 was a great starter bike, and it got recommended highly through people on this list, as well. However, I weigh about 120, so I don't know how your great football-player he-man weight might fare on the bike. ; ) - Jeannette > Snipped from other e-mails. Sorry guys I really disagree with you > guys on > this. All of the above mentioned bikes are NOT good beginner bikes. > The > only one I haven't ridden is the ZX-11 and I assume its not much > different > then the XX. All of these bikes are beasts and have WAY TO MUCH POWER > FOR A > BEGINNER. I think the Nighthawk is an excellent choice as is the > other > smaller bikes mentioned. > > Glenn > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:26:34 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from vulture.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA25052 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 385; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:25:58 -0400 X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:25:54 -0400 To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: Re: Hi! In-Reply-To: <199810011219.IAA22401@meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <19981001132557896.AAC238.385@vulture> At 08:19 AM 10/1/98 , Chris Norloff wrote: >Women really love my Amazona - many times, complete strangers walk up and >offer to perform kinky sex acts on me and my dog. What a bike! you too? i thought it was just MY Amazona. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Amazona 750 (Cherry Red) "I'm not arrogant, I'm just better that you." From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:28:47 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA25136 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18794 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:29:58 -0400 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11BC5E6@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Another newbie Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:29:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Don't forget that Brian McCoy (all 6'3" 230 lbs of him) also had a VF500 and really loved it. He said it was a little low on power on other midsized bikes, but it really taught him how to be smooth through the corners. > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 9:28 AM > To: 'Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN'; 'DC Cycles' > Subject: RE: Another newbie > > I personally thought my VF 500 was a great starter bike, > I don't know how your great > football-player he-man weight might fare on the bike. ; ) > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:37:56 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA25569 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:37:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 335; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:37:02 -0400 Message-ID: <361385B1.8EECFE17@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:37:53 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harry Mantakos , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Ruminations on Harley Davidsons and such References: <199810010425.AAA16994@dirtydog.meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit :-) :-) :-) Our esteemed and benevolent ListMaster wrote: > > When the day rolled around > when it was time to ride the Pacific Coast, I think I'd say "why'd > I have to buy so many damn motorcycles, any way". > So Harry, Comin' out to the Par-tay this time? Want to meet some of your frightening List Subjects face to face? ;-) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:39:01 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net (relay4.smtp.psi.net [38.9.52.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA25585 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay4.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zOiwb-0006AG-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:38:57 -0400 Received: by SUBSPACE with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:38:19 -0400 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA8490D@BADGE> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Ok, I Like Cops Now.... Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:36:15 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Last night I was headed home from school around 10PM speeding, like I usually do (no flames, please!! ; ) ) when I thought, "...you know I should slow down." Of course, after thinking that, I blow by a cop, he turns his lights headlights on & oh well... Lucky for me, though, he let me off with a WARNING!! I'm so thrilled!! That didn't happen last time!! ...and this was a Fairfax City cop, usually they're the worst. I guess the motorcycle gods were with me - I was going 46 in a 30...ugh...slowed down from 55. - Jeannette From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:44:40 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA25718 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA25115 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netgate.anent.com (known netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA22997 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:44:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bnorton ([208.195.115.133] (may be forged)) by netgate.anent.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA02337; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:47:21 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01bded41$deca50e0$8573c3d0@bnorton> From: "Bruce Norton" To: , Subject: Re: Paging Art Crow....paging Art Crow... Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:46:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Call him at his store, Riders Accessory Warehouse 703-241-0733 >Art, are you still lurking out there? If so, would you be so kind as to let me >know where you're hiding in this vast electronic landscape? Had a few >questions for you on some Givi stuff..... > >much obliged, > >-Sean Jordan > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:45:48 1998 Return-Path: merscht@XXXXXX Received: from rbhub101.chamb.disa.mil (rbhub101.chamb.disa.mil [209.22.120.24]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26030 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rbhub101.chamb.disa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <4BW057BF>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:45:29 -0400 Message-ID: <5F21F6A15446D211B0730020484016A33C4F4C@RBMAIL103> From: "Mersch, Tom" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Hi! Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:49:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain HAHAHAHAHAHA :-) Please turn to page four in the Neanderthal handbook and everybody sing! : Oh Lord!, it's hard, to be humble, When you're perfect in eeevery way! > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 8:19 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Hi! > > Hi, I'm new to this area and just wanted to introduce myself - > > I've been riding since before I could walk, and I always ride - cars are > only for weak people, like girls. I ride only the best, an Amazona. The > bike is an icon, worshipped by many. If you have to ask, you wouldn't > understand the answer. They're so popular, there's a waiting list - which > proves that they're the best bikes in the world. Anything less is for > pussies, the pussy-whipped, and girls. > > Women really love my Amazona - many times, complete strangers walk up and > offer to perform kinky sex acts on me and my dog. What a bike! > > I like loud pipes 'cause I want people to hear me and notice me. Heck, I > even installed a WWII air raid siren and keep it running all the time - I > definitely get noticed, and it has saved me from many accidents. > > I also want to be seen - can't be too safe! I've installed wide-beam > headlights 360 degrees around my bike, so brain dead cagers approaching > from ANY angle can see me. To provide the electricity necessary, I > mounted > a car's alternator to my bike. Even so, when I switch on the lights I > have > to always keep the engine above 3,000 rpm or it stalls from the electrical > load. > > I wear only the best - leather from bulls. I don't want anything from > cows > or castrated steers, that's for wimps. And girls. > > Helmets can kill, so I never wear a helmet. I wear the scars on my face > as > a badge of pride. > > But I'm still a member of the MSF to support motorcycle rights, the AMA to > get good safety instruction, and ABATE to fight against the killer power > lines over my house. > > So that's the way it is, if anyone disagrees with me then they're wimps, > or > girls. > > signed, > Falk Yew > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 09:54:44 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (test4.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA26114 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:54:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:53:10 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:51:01 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:53:29 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: jpierre-benoist@XXXXXX, ghowell@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Call me a feminist... -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >>> "George Howell" - 9/30/98 6:36 PM >>> > So--I'm a squid for riding a sportbike, I'm a poseur for riding a > Harley, Yes! Finally, someone who understands! > Joe '85 zx900, '72 Aermacchi/H-D 350 Sprint, '68 FLH How many of the faithful (such as the one so recently departed from the list) have ever heard of the paper boy bike? How many of them have less contempt for you than 'those AMF bastards'? Actually, the hard-core tattooed guys usually get a real kick out of the little beastie and the fact that I'd ride it to a biker haunt. It's the FLSTC Evo-with-200-miles-riding RUB johnnies-come-lately that get shit-all bent outta shape. Mr. Sprint seems to turn their neat little world upside down. --Joe ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:04:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26541 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:04:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25394 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:04:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov (known dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov [137.187.220.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23762 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:04:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov ([137.187.221.31]) by dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov (8.8.5/8.7.2) with ESMTP id KAA00585; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:05:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36138BCF.81ACF143@dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:03:59 -0400 From: jay goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , bgsbny@XXXXXX Subject: Our Pets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Through one way or another I have learned that I am not the only one on this list with reptiles. Most of the motorcyclists I know also have been into reptiles at one time or another. I guess it is cause we like things a little different than others. So if you got a reptile let us know. Jay Goddard 89 Hawk snow corn snake (Jackie Daniels) albino corn snake ( Jim Beam) Green Iguana (Jose' Cuervo) Boxer dog (Jagermiester) No I am not a Alcoholic the name thing started as a joke and went too far From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:11:20 1998 Return-Path: dbiser@XXXXXX Received: from wxserver.aws.com (aws.com [204.156.11.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26947 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jonjon.aws.com ([204.156.11.16]) by wxserver.aws.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA249 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:11:16 -0400 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:11:09 -0400 Message-ID: <01BDED23.CF2FDA60.dbiser@aws.com> From: dbiser@XXXXXX (Don Biser) Reply-To: "dbiser@XXXXXX" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:11:08 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 13 TEXT Thanks to everybody for all of the info, boy, I guess I didn't realize there were so many different types/brands etc. I would like to respond to each of the e-mails individually but unfortunately I'd probably be fired, since I'm at work:-) But, I did get to read them all, and It looks like a lot of good choices! Also last night I went and looked at a Virago 750. It's an 82 with 12k miles. It seems as though it's in pretty good shape, although I'm not sure exactly what to look for. The guy want's $800 dollars. Is that a bad price? It also has RUMBLER pipes. ? (It just seemed a little louder to me) I was thinking maybe a bike like this might be better to start off with, rather than a more expensive/faster sport bike. Thanks again! From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:13:47 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (test4.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27023 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:12:09 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:09:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:12:18 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Hi! -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline No, Falk Yew, you Amazonas rub creditcardbiker wannabee! You betray your newbieness with by saying that you installed a car alternator. Bull (or steer)! Any Amazonas rider worth beans knows that it already has a car alternator, courtesy of 1800cc of Brazilian Volkswagen thunder! Guys like Yew make me wanna puke, Pat Magroyn '81 Amazonas DeForestrator (the only REAL bike) From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:15:16 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27075 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25575 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:15:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (known smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24160 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-37-51.s51.tnt7.ann.erols.com [207.172.37.51]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA10197; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36138BE5.255E@erols.com> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:04:21 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eternity23@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Paging Art Crow....paging Art Crow... References: <650671d5.3612ffe9@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: > > Art, are you still lurking out there? If so, would you be so kind as to let me > know where you're hiding in this vast electronic landscape? Had a few > questions for you on some Givi stuff..... > > much obliged, > > -Sean Jordan riders@XXXXXX or 703-241-0733 RE GIVI: Does anyone out there have any kind of WRITTEN warranty from GIVI? Does anyone out there know (or think they know) what the GIVI warranty is? -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:15:20 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from vulture.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27077 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:15:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 350; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:14:42 -0400 X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:14:35 -0400 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'DC Cycles'" From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: Re: Ok, I Like Cops Now.... In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA8490D@BADGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <19981001141442014.AAA238.350@vulture> Its just 'cause you are a pretty lady. You surprised the officer when you took off your helmet, shook out your hair, batted your eyes and said 'Yes officer? Was i doing something wrong? This is my boyfriend's bike.....' note the sarcasm. :-) All the cops around here are on operation shark something or other. Attacking agressive drivers for speeding, blowing stop signs, etc. You are pretty lucky that the nice officer didnt ticket you considering this A.D. campaign. At 09:36 AM 10/1/98 , O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >Last night I was headed home from school around 10PM speeding, like I >usually do (no flames, please!! ; ) ) >when I thought, "...you know I should slow down." Of course, after >thinking that, I blow by a cop, he turns his lights headlights on & oh >well... Lucky for me, though, he let me off with a WARNING!! I'm so >thrilled!! That didn't happen last time!! >...and this was a Fairfax City cop, usually they're the worst. I guess >the motorcycle gods were with me - I was going 46 in a 30...ugh...slowed >down from 55. > >- Jeannette > ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "When you come to a fork in the road - take it" - The Great Yogi Bera From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:16:33 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27094 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:16:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25593 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from news1.radix.net (known news1.radix.net [209.48.224.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24188 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:16:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brat.knowhere.net (port57.annex7.radix.net [207.226.55.57]) by news1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA08380 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36138CB9.62CB@radix.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:07:53 -0400 From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Reply-To: dreamer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Our Pets References: <36138BCF.81ACF143@dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jay goddard wrote: > > Through one way or another I have learned that I am not the > only one on this list with reptiles. So if you got a reptile let > us know. Me too.. I have a couple of diamond/carpet cross pythons named Moki and Bagera. I've had them since they were baby wigglers. They're going on 5 foot now. I'm actually looking for a good home for them. They come with a furniture quality enclosure. Anyone interested? Dawn -- *=====================================================================* from the mist and shadows, like a memory of things to come.... to wander the paths of moonlight on water, in search of honesty, empathy, beaches at sunrise, mountains under stars and eyes to laugh back at mine... *=====================================================================* Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX *=====================================================================* From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:17:39 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27366 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:49:50 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:49:13 -0400 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hi! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline >snip >>> Chris Norloff 10/01/98 08:19AM >>> Hi, I'm new to this area and just wanted to introduce myself -=20 signed, Falk Yew >snip Personally I prefer, "Yuck Fou". Saw it on a license plate once. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:18:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27388 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:18:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25640 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:18:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24309 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:51:51 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:51:31 -0400 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: merscht@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Weekend Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'd love to join you this weekend but, unfortunately I will be in Vegas = with the Exup-Brotherhood tearing up the town. Maybe next time. Scooter >>> Anita <2xracers@XXXXXX> 10/01/98 08:43AM >>> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:51:34 -0400 , "Mersch, Tom" wrote: > Here's a possibility from the NOVAMGR list. If the Harley, = Harley, >Uber Alles guy is still on the list, ignore this as it involves a ride >designed by a FEMINIST (Anita) AIIIEEEEEE!!! :-)=20 Actually, the highlight of this ride is a feminist rally on the Mall.... JUST KIDDING! :-) For anyone who's curious... the ride is going to be about 200 miles, starting in Manassas and ending in Middleburg (by a very roundabout route!). I've managed to string together quite a few fun motorcycling roads... ones I picked up from other group rides or poker runs. This will be a moderate pace ride, and new riders are very welcome to join us.=20 If anyone has any questions, please feel free to email me! Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:18:11 1998 Return-Path: cgee1@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f145.hotmail.com [207.82.251.24]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27395 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8490 invoked by uid 0); 1 Oct 1998 14:17:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19981001141735.8489.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 164.114.156.164 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 07:17:35 PDT X-Originating-IP: [164.114.156.164] From: "Christopher Gee" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Excelsior-Henderson Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 07:17:35 PDT Good morning, gang. I don't know how many finance types there are out there, but last night on the "Business Center" program on CNBC there was a report about Excelsior-Henderson. The report began by talking about the resurrection of the traditional name, etc. It stated that aging baby- boomers are driving the cruiser market, which has grown by 12% per year for the last 6 years, and Harley-Davidson has 50% of this market. The report talked about the illustrious history of the E-H name earlier this century -- how it was the first bike to break 100mph, first bike to be ridden around the world, and Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford owned E-H's. But then, in the early 30's, the company's owner (Schwinn, the bicycle manufacturer) shut down because of the Depression. Two brothers, Dan and Dave Hanlon, scooped up the name recently after the trademark protection ran out. The Hanlons raised $15 million from "CEO bike enthusiasts with deep pockets," according to the report, and designed and built a prototype. Then they raised $30 million in an IPO in summer of 1997 and built a factory in Minnesota. They are expecting to generate small revenues this year, hopefully shipping in the fall, and project revenues of $60-70 million in 1999, aiming to capture 4-5% market share - not necessarily taking on Harley head-to-head, but trying to scalp a small piece of what they see as a growing pie. The Super-X is the model they are producing, and it is slated to retail around $18,000. Interest has been growing since the IPO, and the company started a waiting list which the report stated now contains 20,000 names. Excelsior-Henderson trades on the Nasdaq exchange, under the symbol BIGX. Flamer Disclaimer: I don't care what kind of bike you ride, I don't condone or condemn cruisers, I just thought it would be interesting to relay a motorcylcing report from the business press. I did not research the story, I am just repeating what they reported. If you have a problem with the content, call CNBC, don't bug me or the list. cheers, Christopher red F3 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:20:01 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27431 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:19:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25700 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24388 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:19:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22097; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:21:05 -0400 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11BC5E9@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'jay goddard'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, bgsbny@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Our Pets Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:21:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Well, we've had quite a few, but now we're down to not that many .... :) Animal Name Nile Monitor TAG! (your it..named for vicious tail whipping ..and the bruises it left...as a juvenile) Black&White Tegu Spike (cause it has none) Golden Tegu Chomp (cuase it is the meanest damn animal I've ever seen, with razor sharp teeth that cut my pinky to the bone when it was a baby) 3 Leaopard Geckos Un-named recent additions 2 Ball Pythons Un-named, cause we're lazy Chesapeake Bay Retriever Peaches During our vacation this summer, our inlaws were taking care of the pets and didn't get one of the cage lids back on properly... We lost our favorite snake, and adult albino corn snake named Hoppy...i still haven't searched all the nooks and crannies yet, so he may still be in the house, but I doubt it.. Collin& Penny (they were her idea...i used to be terrified) > -----Original Message----- > From: jay goddard [SMTP:goddardj@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 10:12 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; bgsbny@XXXXXX > Subject: Our Pets > > So if you got a reptile let us > know. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:23:14 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27513 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:23:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25731 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay4.smtp.psi.net (known relay4.smtp.psi.net [38.9.52.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24479 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:22:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay4.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zOjd1-0002Se-00; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:22:47 -0400 Received: by SUBSPACE with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:22:07 -0400 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA8490E@BADGE> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'jay goddard'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, bgsbny@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Our Pets Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:20:04 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Collin!!?? : ) > -----Original Message----- > From: jay goddard [SMTP:goddardj@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 10:04 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; bgsbny@XXXXXX > Subject: Our Pets > > Through one way or another I have learned that I am not the only one > on > this list with reptiles. Most of the motorcyclists I know also have > been into reptiles at one time or another. I guess it is cause we > like > things a little different than others. So if you got a reptile let us > know. > > Jay Goddard > 89 Hawk > snow corn snake (Jackie Daniels) > albino corn snake ( Jim Beam) > Green Iguana (Jose' Cuervo) > Boxer dog (Jagermiester) > > No I am not a Alcoholic the name thing started as a joke and went too > far From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:26:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27526 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25800 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24590 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 369; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:26:12 -0400 X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:26:09 -0400 To: jay goddard , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , bgsbny@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: Re: Our Pets In-Reply-To: <36138BCF.81ACF143@dirsun1.nichd.nih.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <19981001142612787.AAA238.369@vulture> Wow. I have a green iguana named Nietzsche. I just set up a news group for Iguanas yesterday (we are ISP) at rec.iguanas. Nietz is 7 years old, 3.5 feet long and just had an operation to remove a mass from his abdomin. If there are any other reptile owners out there, I'd like to know. At 10:03 AM 10/1/98 , jay goddard wrote: >Through one way or another I have learned that I am not the only one on >this list with reptiles. Most of the motorcyclists I know also have >been into reptiles at one time or another. I guess it is cause we like >things a little different than others. So if you got a reptile let us >know. > >Jay Goddard >89 Hawk >snow corn snake (Jackie Daniels) >albino corn snake ( Jim Beam) >Green Iguana (Jose' Cuervo) >Boxer dog (Jagermiester) > >No I am not a Alcoholic the name thing started as a joke and went too >far > ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "When you come to a fork in the road - take it" - The Great Yogi Bera From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:28:59 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27876 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25827 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24656 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:28:53 -0400 (EDT) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 85256690.004F56DB ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:26:35 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256690.004F3913.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:26:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Hi! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline And then there is the one that I saw directed at Newt Gingrich, which was "Nuck Fewt". From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:29:40 1998 Return-Path: linda.tanner@XXXXXX Received: from beta.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.143]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27901 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by beta.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id JAA15966 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:27:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA18188 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:27:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from LJTanner.arl.mci.com ([166.44.166.149]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981001142742.BKKO18768@XXXXXX> for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:27:42 -0500 From: "Linda Tanner" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: RE: Hi! Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:27:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000401bded47$a1f08f80$95a62ca6@LJTanner.arl.mci.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199810011219.IAA22401@meretrix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal This is priceless. Too bad our Johnny-come-lately-and-gone can't see it. My hat's (helmet) is off to you, Chris. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (50K and counting) Q: Why do the Hell's Angels wear leather? PAUL LYNDE: Because chiffon wrinkles so easily. Chris Norloff Said: Hi, I'm new to this area and just wanted to introduce myself - From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:30:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27952 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:30:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25865 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24742 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:30:36 -0400 (EDT) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WFFRa13872 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <56d6a595.361391eb@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:30:03 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Our Pets Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 10/1/98 10:10:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, goddardj@XXXXXX writes: << Jay Goddard 89 Hawk snow corn snake (Jackie Daniels) albino corn snake ( Jim Beam) Green Iguana (Jose' Cuervo) Boxer dog (Jagermiester) >> Im the owner of a 4 ft baby albino Burmese python named Princess. Jack From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:32:17 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27970 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:32:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25880 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redmailwall.attws.com (known redmailwall.attws.com [206.213.111.115]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24771 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viruswall.entp.attws.com by redmailwall.attws.com (8.8.8/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. V8 version 2) id HAA05346; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com by viruswall.entp.attws.com (8.8.8/AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. V8 version 2) id HAA06891; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA23484; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:31:33 -0700 Received: from hq-msg04.nwest.mccaw.com by nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com (8.6.12/McCaw V8 version 1) id HAA23471; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:31:31 -0700 Received: by HQ-MSG04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:31:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Viteri, Ursulina" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:31:28 -0700 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Donnie, I just bought the same bike for my brother: a gray 1982 Virago 750 with 11K miles for $600. It needs new brakes and the battery keeps dying. Plus someone knocked the poor thing over in the parking lot so now it needs a new brake lever. Thank goodness my brother is good at fixing things. This bike should keep him busy. :-) Before the brake level broke off I rode it and thought, "Hmm, I thought this would have more power since it's a 750 and I'm use to riding a 450." Maybe it's not zippy since it's an older, heavier bike. Or maybe it's a crappy bike. Not sure yet. Dale, care to chime in since you've had lots of experience with the Virago? - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD > -----Original Message----- > From: dbiser@XXXXXX [SMTP:dbiser@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 7:11 AM > To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: > > Thanks to everybody for all of the info, boy, I guess I didn't realize > there > were so many different types/brands etc. > I would like to respond to each of the e-mails individually but > unfortunately > I'd probably be fired, since I'm at work:-) > But, I did get to read them all, and It looks like a lot of good choices! > Also last night I went and looked at a Virago 750. It's an 82 with 12k > miles. > It seems as though it's in pretty good shape, although I'm not sure > exactly > what to look for. The guy want's $800 dollars. 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M``````````(!<0`!````&P````&][4`!T.`0````$`````````'@`U$`$```!`````/$(Y,30T M-#E"04$T1$0R,3$X-$8U,#`X,#5&14$S.#0Y-SE".$!H<2UM.$!H<2UM; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26108 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:45:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25317 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from demon (unverified [207.226.128.32]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.5) with SMTP id ; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:42:53 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Another newbie Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:45:23 -0400 Message-ID: <002501bded4a$1ee48ee0$2080e2cf@demon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <6f17eefe.361357d3@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal >From that perspective, they are PERFECT. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > -----Original Message----- > From: Boiade@XXXXXX [mailto:Boiade@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 6:22 AM > To: ghowell@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Another newbie > > > In a message dated 9/30/98 11:42:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > ghowell@XXXXXX > writes: > > << Disagree about the Buell's. Too much torque, and too grippy > stoppers for a > ham-fisted newbie. > >> > Well, i have never ridden one so you are probably right. It's the way they > look, if you drop one how can you tell its been dropped? > > Ciao, > > Fred > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:53:38 1998 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28924 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:53:37 -0400 (EDT) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6TXTa13873; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <11b6d228.36139738@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:52:40 EDT To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Ok, I Like Cops Now.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 Once I got pulled over by a motorcycle riding CHP who said later (when I met him in a totally different context and he remembered me) that he pulled me over because I was a girl. I was going 68 in a 55. It really made me mad when he told me that. The ticket cost be a hundred bucks or so, plus a point on my license. Of course, I was speeding, but heck, I wasn't the fastest vehicle in sight on that road at that moment. I wasn't even going fast enough to be in the left lane. On the other hand, I got pulled over this summer after I sped through a sleepy Minnesota town at about 15mph over the posted speed. I gave the cop my MSF instructor card and told him that if he wrote me the ticket, I might have a hard time keeping my job. He had to think about it for a long time (he was very young and likely had never let an out of state speeder off the hook before), but he didn't write a ticket. hee hee. Gosh, I guess I better teach a couple of classes next year so I can get that card renewed... Colleen >Its just 'cause you are a pretty lady. You surprised the officer when you >took off your helmet, shook out your hair, batted your eyes and said 'Yes >officer? >Was i doing something wrong? This is my boyfriend's bike.....' > >note the sarcasm. :-) From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 10:54:55 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA28934 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199810011454.KAA28934@meretrix.com> Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A7BA73029E; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:54:50 EDT X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:56:32 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Ok, I Like Cops Now.... In-Reply-To: <19981001141442014.AAA238.350@vulture> References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA8490D@BADGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:14 AM 10/1/98 -0400, Michael Troutman wrote: >All the cops around here are on operation shark something or other. >Attacking agressive >drivers for speeding, blowing stop signs, etc. I think the newspaper reported Fairfax county issued 1800 citation last month for Aggressive Driving. About half were for speeding and the next highest category (about 11%) were for disobeying traffic signs. With all the tailgating, weaving, and cutting people off around here, I find it hard to believe that their biggest category after speeding was disobeying traffic signs, and that was only 1 out 10 people they caught. I suppose a lot of it has to do with getting charges that will stick through court, but it sure seems they're missing a large component of what constitutes dangerous aggressive driving. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 11:01:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29336 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:01:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26385 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:01:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26459 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:01:40 -0400 (EDT) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WNZWa13872 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:00:59 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Header welder needed!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 One of the header joints on my TL broke clean off and Suzuki won't replace it under warranty because it _may_ have been caused by crash damage. That's bullshit but oh well. Anyway, Im looking for a local steel welder to redo the joint. I am looking to pay no more than $50 since it is a rather small job. I tried the phone book but found out that most local welders are welders on the side and got a lot of answering machines. My biggest priority is that I want someone who I can schedule an appointment with and bring the bike in and have it done in an hour or so all while waiting. Most places were telling me the leave the bike and all. I dont trust a welder moving my baby around so no dice there. This is a priority since my Yosh exhaust cans are coming on Monday! If you know of anyone who welds (and does a good job) or any suggestions, let me know ASAP! Thanks Jack From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 11:22:29 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00330 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:22:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DQGY6XVG; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:22:15 EDT To: leerider@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ruminations on Harley Davidsons and such Message-ID: <19981001.031552.8135.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <199810010425.AAA16994@dirtydog.meretrix.com> <36135003.5E4C@XXXXXX> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-15 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:22:15 EDT Now that I know what LOL means, I can use it. The following made me LOL: On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 05:48:51 -0400 Lee Powell writes: >Harry Mantakos wrote: >> I like to wave to them. > >Don't ever wave when you're on a Harley. I think it must void the >warranty or something. That's my 2 pennies worth... --Bikes R Us-- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 11:34:01 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00731 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA26850 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.mcit.com (known alpha.mcit.com [199.249.18.143]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA27944 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:33:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by alpha.mcit.com (8.8.8/) with ESMTP id LAA14815; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:28:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA16416; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:26:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from todd.arl.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981001152600.CBWJ18768@XXXXXX>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:26:00 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "George Howell" , , Subject: RE: Newbie bike, or something for the commuter Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:25:07 -0400 Message-ID: <001001bded4f$ab7f7c20$8df229a6@todd.arl.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <004f01bdeced$72c417e0$1980e2cf@demon> Importance: Normal Yeah, but George, it was an Eliminator, a Kawasaki. If you want a 'real motorcycle', buy a Honda. (ducking, covering....;) Todd George Howell wrote: > That's still a crap price. For a two year old bike, $400 off ain't much. > Even on my Eliminator that was only a one year unsold bike, I got > $1000 off. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 11:45:40 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01234 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DQG2G2SK; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:45:14 EDT To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hi! -Reply Message-ID: <19981001.033844.8135.3.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-4,6-12 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:45:14 EDT >Guys like Yew make me wanna puke, > >Pat Magroyn >'81 Amazonas DeForestrator (the only REAL bike) Pat? Is that you?! It's me, our long-lost brother, Holden! I've been travelling the country with our east indian friend Mahatma Kote! That's my 2 pennies worth... --Bikes R Us-- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 11:46:58 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01244 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA11585; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from todd.arl.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981001154617.CHPC18768@XXXXXX>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:46:17 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Ok, I Like Cops Now.... Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:45:24 -0400 Message-ID: <001301bded52$811b67c0$8df229a6@todd.arl.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA8490D@BADGE> Importance: Normal Naw, he proly let you go 'cause you didn't lay any of that feminist shit on him! ...as Collin Fagen is want to say, he he he he! ;P Todd > Last night I was headed home from school around 10PM speeding, like I > usually do (no flames, please!! ; ) ) > when I thought, "...you know I should slow down." Of course, after > thinking that, I blow by a cop, he turns his lights headlights on & oh > well... Lucky for me, though, he let me off with a WARNING!! I'm so > thrilled!! That didn't happen last time!! > ...and this was a Fairfax City cop, usually they're the worst. I guess > the motorcycle gods were with me - I was going 46 in a 30...ugh...slowed > down from 55. > > - Jeannette > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 11:55:04 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (test4.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA01627 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:55:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:53:37 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:51:25 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:54:28 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hi! -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Holden, Sorry I've been out of touch for so long. Last september I hooked up with Harry Balszak (you remember what a freak he was) and next thing I knew I woke up in some fleabag in Matamoros with a huge Amazonas tattoo on my ass. Had to ride standing up for the next four days--thank god for the floorboards and cruise control. Keep in touch, Pat >>> Bikes R Us - 10/1/98 11:45 AM >>> >Guys like Yew make me wanna puke, > >Pat Magroyn >'81 Amazonas DeForestrator (the only REAL bike) Pat? Is that you?! It's me, our long-lost brother, Holden! I've been travelling the country with our east indian friend Mahatma Kote! That's my 2 pennies worth... --Bikes R Us-- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 12:17:32 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02600 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA20504; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:25:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from todd.arl.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981001152558.CBWD18768@XXXXXX>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:25:58 -0500 From: "Todd Peer" To: , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: Another Newbie Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01bded4f$aabdb2c0$8df229a6@todd.arl.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <3612D6D9.F6A826F3@bellatlantic.net> Importance: Normal Indeed, and aside from Brians yellow Nighthawk, you can take a gander at my black one. I'll even point you to where the pegs get touched down quite often, sons the grinder protrusions :) Todd Brian wrote: > I would have to recommend the Honda Nighthawk 750. Biased opinion - I > picked up my 1996 for $4500 with 170 miles on the odo from Atlantic > Cycle and I creak the scale at 240 lbs. Here's looking forward to meeting some more of the listers at > Todd's on the 24th! > Brian > Yellow Nighthawk 750 > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 12:29:21 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03065 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomspc.mindspring.com (user-38lc40g.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.16.16]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA11698 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981001122810.006bdc8c@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: zellto@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:28:10 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Thomas W. Zell" Subject: Re: Ok, I Like Cops Now.... In-Reply-To: <199810011454.KAA28934@meretrix.com> References: <19981001141442014.AAA238.350@vulture> <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DA8490D@BADGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Last week with Operation Road Shark Fairfax County Police wrote 2900 tickets of which 895 were for speeding. Most of the tickets were written on the beltway. On the way out to my mom's to close the deal on her house I saw that VA State had used a Jeep Cherokee(not the big one like they used to use) to nab a guy. Also saw FFX Co with a very unassuming Crown Vic... complete with hub caps, white walls, no antenae, and baseball caps concealing the lights. Looked like a grand parents car. Gotta be careful out there folks! -Tom At 10:56 AM 10/1/98 -0400, Chris Norloff wrote: >At 10:14 AM 10/1/98 -0400, Michael Troutman wrote: >>All the cops around here are on operation shark something or other. >>Attacking agressive >>drivers for speeding, blowing stop signs, etc. > >I think the newspaper reported Fairfax county issued 1800 citation last >month for Aggressive Driving. About half were for speeding and the next >highest category (about 11%) were for disobeying traffic signs. > >With all the tailgating, weaving, and cutting people off around here, I >find it hard to believe that their biggest category after speeding was >disobeying traffic signs, and that was only 1 out 10 people they caught. > >I suppose a lot of it has to do with getting charges that will stick >through court, but it sure seems they're missing a large component of what >constitutes dangerous aggressive driving. > >Chris Norloff > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 12:35:50 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03216 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DQG5C364; Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:35:30 EDT To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hi! -Reply -Reply-reply Message-ID: <19981001.042903.7823.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-11,13-36 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:35:30 EDT I'll bet that tattoo looks great when you wear your leather chaps with no pants underneath. DId you know that a couple of our old friends from back home have written books? "Strange Marks in the Sand" by Peter Dragon "Cat Obedience Training for Nudists" by Claude Bahls That's my 2 pennies worth... --Bikes R Us-- On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:54:28 -0400 JOE NAGY writes: >Holden, >Sorry I've been out of touch for so long. Last september I hooked up >with Harry Balszak (you remember what a freak he was) and next thing I >knew I woke up in some fleabag in Matamoros with a huge Amazonas >tattoo >on my ass. Had to ride standing up for the next four days--thank god >for the floorboards and cruise control. >Keep in touch, >Pat > >>>> Bikes R Us - 10/1/98 11:45 AM >>> >>Guys like Yew make me wanna puke, >> >>Pat Magroyn >>'81 Amazonas DeForestrator (the only REAL bike) > >Pat? Is that you?! It's me, our long-lost brother, Holden! I've been >travelling the country with our east indian friend Mahatma Kote! > > >That's my 2 pennies worth... > >--Bikes R Us-- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 12:39:53 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03516 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01449 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:41:05 -0400 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11BC5EF@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: fw: for sale Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:41:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain This found on the classifieds at roadracers.com (streetbike section) The GS500 is a really good starter bike with a lot of potential... I don't know anything about it other than what the ad says..ask them questions, not me Collin [ ] 94 Suzuki GS500 From: david_sims@XXXXXX Date: 9/30/98 Time: 8:47:51 AM Remote Name: 206.2.177.5 Comments 8000 mi. nice beginner bike or excellent for the female spouse. Purple paint. $2000.00 neg. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 13:04:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04491 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA28429 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:04:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02142 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 279; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:03:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3613B620.59E91BCB@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:04:32 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Viteri, Ursulina" , Don Biser CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Viteri, Ursulina wrote: > Dale, care to chime in since you've had lots of experience with the > Virago? Well, I still get the cold shivers thinking about the last one. :( Donnie, In my opinion, taken for what it's worth, there are LOTS and LOTS of great old UJM's out there for sale cheap, that are reliable, and are bargains for the money. However, I don't think an 82 Virago 750 is one of 'em. It was the first model year, and it took them a few years to get everything sorted out. Had one, bought it for the wife, hated it, had way too many problems, sold it to another lister, and now he (Garcia) doesn't talk to me anymore (or maybe he's just the quiet type). :( Weak starter motor, crappy awful sounding starter gears, useless rear monoshock can't hold air and knocks bike off sidestand when it sags too low (Ursulina, your bike might have fallen over all by itself, mine used to). The buckhorn handlebars are a joke, too. For what it's worth, when it started (which wasn't often) and held air in the rear shock, the ride was nice, the engine was fairly strong, but you hit redline awfully quickly, shaft drive was a plus, but their were way too many minuses. I'd say keep looking. Better bikes are out there. Horkster > Donnie, > > I just bought the same bike for my brother: a gray 1982 Virago 750 with 11K > miles for $600. It needs new brakes and the battery keeps dying. Plus > someone knocked the poor thing over in the parking lot so now it needs a new > brake lever. -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 13:04:59 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04501 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:04:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by PENTAGON-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:03:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'Chris Norloff'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Ok, I Like Cops Now.... Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:03:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) You hit it on the head. All the cops consider to be "aggressive" is speeding that's why I consider this aggressive driving thing a joke. The cops don't even know what it is. Glenn > I suppose a lot of it has to do with getting charges that will stick > through court, but it sure seems they're missing a large component of what > constitutes dangerous aggressive driving. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 13:16:48 1998 Return-Path: merscht@XXXXXX Received: from rbhub100.chamb.disa.mil (rbhub100.chamb.disa.mil [209.22.120.23]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05049 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rbhub100.chamb.disa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <4BW703D5>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:15:56 -0400 Message-ID: <5F21F6A15446D211B0730020484016A33C4F4F@RBMAIL103> From: "Mersch, Tom" To: "'bike.dealer@XXXXXX'" , NAGYJ@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Hi! -Reply -Reply-reply Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:21:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Honestly, this should have been left "Along the Purple River" by I. P. Peculiar > -----Original Message----- > From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX [SMTP:bike.dealer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 12:36 PM > To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Hi! -Reply -Reply-reply > > I'll bet that tattoo looks great when you wear your leather chaps with no > pants underneath. DId you know that a couple of our old friends from back > home have written books? > > "Strange Marks in the Sand" by Peter Dragon > "Cat Obedience Training for Nudists" by Claude Bahls > > > That's my 2 pennies worth... > > --Bikes R Us-- > > On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:54:28 -0400 JOE NAGY > writes: > >Holden, > >Sorry I've been out of touch for so long. Last september I hooked up > >with Harry Balszak (you remember what a freak he was) and next thing I > >knew I woke up in some fleabag in Matamoros with a huge Amazonas > >tattoo > >on my ass. Had to ride standing up for the next four days--thank god > >for the floorboards and cruise control. > >Keep in touch, > >Pat > > > >>>> Bikes R Us - 10/1/98 11:45 AM >>> > >>Guys like Yew make me wanna puke, > >> > >>Pat Magroyn > >>'81 Amazonas DeForestrator (the only REAL bike) > > > >Pat? Is that you?! It's me, our long-lost brother, Holden! I've been > >travelling the country with our east indian friend Mahatma Kote! > > > > > >That's my 2 pennies worth... > > > >--Bikes R Us-- > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 13:27:37 1998 Return-Path: merscht@XXXXXX Received: from rbhub100.chamb.disa.mil (rbhub100.chamb.disa.mil [209.22.120.23]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA05544 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rbhub100.chamb.disa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <4BW703HT>; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:26:40 -0400 Message-ID: <5F21F6A15446D211B0730020484016A33C4F51@RBMAIL103> From: "Mersch, Tom" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Ok, I Like Cops Now.... Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:32:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Don't know, and don't care -- there's a media hype circus (probably some commie conspiracy ;) going on about "aggressive driving" and "road rage" as though it is the way we drive in Washington, so the local LEAs will divert too many resources to supposedly combat aggressive driving, and all that will be accomplished is more tickets written for what is not really aggressive driving. Think we ought to drop the "aggressive" part and just stick with "dangerous" -- who gives a cheese if someone is being aggressive as long as it is not dangerous? I was almost run into the center median on 16th St NW yesterday by a guy in a couldn't-get-out-of-it's-own-way small pickup truck, who very non-aggressively just kept right on moseying into my lane with me almost right next to him. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN [SMTP:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 1:03 PM > To: 'Chris Norloff'; 'DC Cycles' > Subject: RE: Ok, I Like Cops Now.... > > You hit it on the head. All the cops consider to be "aggressive" is > speeding that's why I consider this aggressive driving thing a joke. The > cops don't even know what it is. > > Glenn > > > > > I suppose a lot of it has to do with getting charges that will stick > > through court, but it sure seems they're missing a large component of > what > > constitutes dangerous aggressive driving. > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 14:01:36 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07007 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by PENTAGON-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:59:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: FW: European bike shootout Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:59:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Forwarded to me from someone else on the list. Thought it might be of interest to others. Glenn > From the VFR List: > > Given the recent talk comparing the VFR-800 to other bikes, I thought it > might be interesting to post the results of a multi bike endurance > shoot-out > in which the VFR-800 was a participant. The information presented here is > taken from the Dutch magazine "Moto 73", September 1998. > > The tests were conducted over a three day period on the Misano race track > in > Italy. Participants were as follows: > > Yamaha YZF-R1, Yamaha YZF-600R, Ducati 916SPS, Suzuki GSXR-600, Suzuki > GSXR-750, Kawasaki ZX-9R, Kawasaki ZX-6R, Bimota SB6R, Honda VTR-1000, > Honda > VFR-800, Honda CB-500S, Triumph Speed Triple. > > The article is quite lengthy, and for that reason I'll only reprint what I > consider to be the most interesting statistics, as well as how each bike > was > rated at the end of the race. > > Best lap times: > > YZF-R1 1.4542 > 916SPS 1.4563 > GSXR-600 1.4641 > ZX-9R 1.4712 > ZX-6R 1.4747 > SB6R 1.4750 > GSXR-750 1.4757 > VTR-1000 1.4782 > YZF-600R 1.4824 > VFR-800 1.4908 > Speed Triple 1.4923 > CB-500S 1.5865 > > Top speeds achieved on track: > > SB6R 251.77 KM/hour > YZF-R1 249.45 KM/hour > 916SPS 248.96 KM/hour > ZX-9R 247.73 KM/hour > GSXR-750 242.87 KM/hour > ZX-6R 231.09 KM/hour > VTR-1000 228.34 KM/hour > GSXR-600 226.64 KM/hour > YZF-600R 226.64 KM/hour > Speed Triple 214.55 KM/hour > VFR-800 210.43 KM/hour > CB-500S 177.09 KM/hour > > Riders impressions: > > GSXR-600 motor: 8.8, stability: 9.1, handling: 9.4, brakes: 9.1 > GSXR-750 motor: 9.4, stability: 8.8, handling: 8.8, brakes: 9.2 > VTR-1000 motor: 7.8, stability: 7.9, handling: 8.5, brakes: 8.0 > SB6R motor: 9.1, stability: 8.0, handling: 6.9, brakes: 7.1 > YZF-600R motor: 8.2, stability: 8.3, handling: 8.3, brakes: 7.4 > YZF-R1 motor: 10.0, stability: 8.6, handling: 9.3, brakes: 8.9 > Speed Triple motor: 8.5, stability: 8.1, handling: 9.0, brakes: 9.3 > ZX-6R motor: 9.5, stability: 8.8, handling: 8.7, brakes: 8.5 > VFR-800 motor: 7.8, stability: 6.6, handling: 7.3, brakes: 7.3 > CB-500S motor: 6.7, stability: 7.1, handling: 8.0, brakes: 7.2 > 916SPS motor: 9.5, stability: 9.7, handling: 9.0, brakes: 9.3 > ZX-9R motor: 10.0, stability: 8.1, handling: 7.6, brakes: 8.2 > > The winner of the three day marathon, somewhat surprisingly, was the > Suzuki > GSXR-600, with the VFR-800 coming in 9th. Though the GSXR-600 didn't have > the most formidable engine, many factors such as gasoline consumption, > number of tire replacements, brake pad replacements, etc., robbed the > bigger > bikes of their expected top place finishes. The monster motor of the > YZF-R1, > for instance, caused so much wear on the rear tire that it required 5 tire > changes to the GSXR-600's two. > > The inclusion of the CB-500S seems to have been someone's idea of a joke. > I > don't believe they were ever imported into the U.S., but for those > interested, the CB-500S is a 499 cc liquid cooled parallel twin with a > bikini fairing. It should come as no surprise that a bike so hopelessly > outmatched should come in last. Similarly, the VFR-800 "sport tourer" was > not in the same league with the other bikes in this event, and placed near > the bottom in almost every comparison. Sorry guys.... > > Andrew Ward > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > The VF/VFR mailing list--see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr-list/ > for subscribe/unsubscribe, policy and archive information. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 14:02:09 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07188 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by PENTAGON-DADC012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:00:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: European bike shootout Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:00:26 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) And another's view, not mine. Glenn > I did a lot of snipping then added my own comments... > > > > > >From the VFR List: > > Best lap times: > > > > YZF-R1 1.4542 > > CB-500S 1.5865 > > > Interesting to note that the worst bike was still within two tenths > of a second of the fastest bike on this particular track (must have been a > tight one). And there are still some out there who claim it's the bike > not > the rider.. harumph > > > > Top speeds achieved on track: > > > > SB6R 251.77 KM/hour > > CB-500S 177.09 KM/hour > > > Quite a bit of a difference.... it definitley must have been a tight > track with very short straights. > > > Riders impressions: > > > > GSXR-600 motor: 8.8, stability: 9.1, handling: 9.4, brakes: 9.1 > > GSXR-750 motor: 9.4, stability: 8.8, handling: 8.8, brakes: 9.2 > > VFR-800 motor: 7.8, stability: 6.6, handling: 7.3, brakes: 7.3 > > 916SPS motor: 9.5, stability: 9.7, handling: 9.0, brakes: 9.3 > > ZX-9R motor: 10.0, stability: 8.1, handling: 7.6, brakes: 8.2 > > > Interesting stability ratings... I've never been on the VFR 800, > but I'm guessing it's not too far off from the 94-97 models.. The 94 I > rode > was very stable.... and comparing that to my 97 GSXR... how in the world > does the bone jarring, neck breaking, head shaking 750 get an 8.8 in this > category compared to the VFR getting a 6.6!!! I don't think so...unless > it's a reverse scale :) > > No surprise that the Kow and the R1 got 10's on motor... Kawi has > always had super strong motors. > > Surprising to see sucha difference between the handling on the > GSXR600 and 750... The only difference in the two bikes is motor and very > slightly different forks on the 600... > > Gotta love those numbers on the 916!! Actually, why don't they just > call it what it is... an SPS model is a factory 996 with a lot of trick > parts to boot. And people bitch that the duc hasn't been changed in > several > years....WHY!! it looks like they've found a great thing and don't want > to > F*&$k it up... > > > The winner of the three day marathon, somewhat surprisingly, was the > > Suzuki > > GSXR-600, > > > Not too surprising here... For the things that it appears this test > looked at, the 600 is a great machine. It's nearly identical to the 750, > jsut a bit less power, but it has better front forks...probably eats fewer > tires than the 750 as well.... > > > > The inclusion of the CB-500S seems to have been someone's idea of a > joke. > > > In the overall category, it looks out of it's league, but I still > like the track times section that show it right there with all the big > boys... From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 14:03:56 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07268 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA29531 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak.eainet.com (known oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05120 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak (oak [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA01404; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:00:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:00:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler X-Sender: ph@oak Reply-To: Peter Hartzler To: Art Crow cc: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: GIVI [was: Paging Art Crow] In-Reply-To: <36138BE5.255E@erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Art -- Good talking with you yesterday... BTW, I checked out GIVI's www site -- http://www.givi.it/ -- and it has *even less* information than those catalogs. Lame. -ph On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Art Crow wrote: > Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > Art, are you still lurking out there? If so, would you be so kind as to let me > > know where you're hiding in this vast electronic landscape? Had a few > > questions for you on some Givi stuff..... > > > > much obliged, > > > > -Sean Jordan > > > riders@XXXXXX or 703-241-0733 > > > RE GIVI: Does anyone out there have any kind of WRITTEN warranty from > GIVI? Does anyone out there know (or think they know) what the GIVI > warranty is? > -- > Art Crow > 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" > 1996 JRT, "Higgins" > "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is > better." > --- Peter Hartzler Systems Analysis Ellsworth Associates, Inc. ph@XXXXXX (703) 821-3090 x 252 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 14:14:36 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA07769 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07418 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:15:43 -0400 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11BC5FB@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: non-moto: Pets still Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:15:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Well, it seems that we just keep proving more and more that everyone on DC_Cycles has far too much in common... We're all computer geeks (or pretend to be one) We all love bikes A good number love guns and now it appears that a ton of us have reptiles as well!! cool! A question to all the herp owners out there: Where have you been getting your pet food at?? We lost our last supplier,a nd I've grown real bored of raising rats in the house... Anyone got suggestions? Someone mentioned a guy over on 123 in VA, but I lost the message and never got ahold of him... I've got some hungry pets and the local pet shops are very lacking in feeder mice/rats of a reasonable size... TIA Collin From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 1 14:49:45 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from vulture.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09119 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:49:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 405; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:49:10 -0400 Message-Id: X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 14:48:58 -0400 To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "'dc'" From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: Re: non-moto: Pets still In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11BC5FB@MSCEX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I didnt know we were all gun nuts too. Wow. I fit into all the categories. Like a square peg..... There is a good feeder store on Braddock Road near GMU. I forget the name of it, I think i