From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 08:13:29 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 05:13:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: nail in tire To: ulrich@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: uboser@XXXXXX Where is it in downtown DC? I can bring my plug gun with mushroom plugs and plug it for you. I've had good luck with these, but of course, there's no guarantees. Let me know. Leon. --- Ulrich Boser wrote: > hello, > > i got a nail in my tire - its not bad. i drove from > sperryville to downtown dc and only went down from > abt > 260 to 240. i tried to patch it from the outside but > it is in a tread and didnt really work. the tire has > only abt 3,000 miles on it. any thoughts abt what to > do. > > i am guessing that all i am doing is complaning and > will have to get a new tire.... yes? > > thanks. > > ulrich > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 09:05:05 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 06:05:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: TSR to donate to the NY Times 9/11 Neediest Fund To: TSR Injury Fund *For Immediate Release* Due to the recent attacks on the World Trade Center Towers and the Pentagon, the TSR Injury Fund is going to donate all the proceeds from our 2001 contribution drive to the New York Times 9/11 Neediest Fund. More information about the fund can be found at http://prodpub.wavesys.com/cw/donations.asp?charity=neediest911 TSR understands that this drastic measure is not what we have advertised throughout the course of our contribution drive, and are willing to offer refunds to anyone, provided they return their original ticket stub. We feel that at this time and magnitude of need, that this is the correct course of action to take. Please note that the items that have been donated to the Injury Fund will still be given away as the Raffle prizes, and the drawing date has not changed. It will still be held on Oct 28th, during the WERA GNF, at Road Atlanta in Braselton, GA, and winning ticket holders do not need to be present. A listing of these prizes is available on the TSR website at http://www.tightsqueezeracing.org/raffle.htm. In addition to those listed on the website, we would also like to recognize the following pledges that we received at the WERA VIR National event: Thermosman Suspensions (http://www.thermosman.com/) -One Penske 8900 Rear shock, $1300 Team INA -One Poulan 2375LE, 18-inch, Gas Chain Saw, $150 TSR will continue accepting donations for the 9/11 Fund until the end of the 2001, then we will resume our normal operations for 2002. Sincerely, Tight Squeeze Racing __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 09:12:48 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: HD Brand Rain suit FS To: DCC The BSA has been sold, and my friend Tim now needs someone to buy a Harley Rain Suit (Large), worn twice. Contact Tim at geigerc@XXXXXX Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 10:45:06 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 10:44:50 -0400 From: wormjtn@XXXXXX (Worm) To: Robert.Verde@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, c-Robert.Verde@XXXXXX Subject: I am interested in the Laser 4-1 exhaust for the 83 Interceptor. There was a post on the SABMAG list that someone was selling a 4to1 Laser exhaust. If someone could please email me some info about it. Price, shipping, apperance, etc.. Thank you Jeremy -- `82 V45 Sabre "candy" `83 V45 Ceptor Nothing is certain until it happens! Ride safe. __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 10:47:10 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:45:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" To: dccycles Subject: VIR this weekend. Jay and I headed down to VIR this past weekend. We were signed up for the South Course with Nesba. I really enjoyed the course. A little more hilly than Summit and a whole lot smoother. The drive down took about 5.5 hours, the traffic on 495 and 95 did not help. The drive home clocked in at about 5 hours. I rode the FZR 600 in the morning and managed to kill the clutch by the afternoon. I switched over the the FZR 750 and managed to still have a good time. I went over to the North Course on Sunday to look for DC Cycles folks. Didn't see anyone but still had a good time looking around and checking out the pits. I would love to go back and run the North course this weekend with Nesba but I've got a wedding to go to. Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 10:57:46 2001 From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Subject: Congrats to Keener Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:58:57 -0400 Congratulations are in order for "minied(a little) -sasquatch" after his 5th place finish in Pro Thunder at VIR! Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 11:32:04 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 11:31:43 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener To: Cc: Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) Scooter In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:05:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Danny Thompson" writes: > Congratulations are in order for "minied(a little) -sasquatch" after his 5th > place finish in Pro Thunder at VIR! > Danny Thompson > Liberty High School Technology Education > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 11:42:35 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:42:21 EDT Subject: Fwd: Congrats to Keener To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --part1_41.11a47261.28e9e8dd_boundary --part1_41.11a47261.28e9e8dd_boundary From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Full-name: SKeener2 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:42:06 EDT Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/1/01 11:40:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ScooterFZR@XXXXXX writes: > Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what > your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) Thanks. (Think big fat guy on itty bitty SV) :-) Keener --part1_41.11a47261.28e9e8dd_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:02:44 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 12:02:18 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Fwd: Congrats to Keener To: Cc: Not a big help there Keener. Leathers make everyone look thin. LOL Or should that be fat. Just think how big cows look. ;-) In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:46:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SKeener2@XXXXXX writes: > > Forwarded Message:-------------------- > Subj: Re: Congrats to Keener > Date Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:42:06 EDT > From: SKeener2@XXXXXX > To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > > > In a message dated 10/1/01 11:40:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > ScooterFZR@XXXXXX writes: > > > Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what > > your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) > > Thanks. (Think big fat guy on itty bitty SV) :-) > > Keener From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:08:43 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:08:32 EDT Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/1/01 12:02:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ScooterFZR writes: > Not a big help there Keener. Leathers make everyone look thin. LOL Or > should that be fat. Just think how big cows look. ;-) Mooooooooooooooooooooooooo :-)) From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:40:59 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 12:40:45 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: VIR Weekend To: Well folks, Had a nice time at VIR this weekend. Rode down with Pual Wilson and Bruce Brownlee. Could have lived without all the 15-20mph winds at the track though. Can you say "windburn." Checked out the races from a few different vantage points. I won't tell who won any of the races, mainly because I don't know. ;-) I don't follow them that closely to tell you who they are by their number. Anyway, spotted Todd Peer, Hugh Caldwell, Sean Jordan, Brian Roach & Laura Granato (yes, they were there contrary to popular belief. ;-) ) Didn't hang around them too long because of that "big dick" they were hanging out with. You shouldn't do that to the racers. I'll let them explain that one for those of you who didn't find them. hehe I believe Linda Tanner was also spotted. I'm sure there were more of the DC Cyclists in attendance but, that's all I found/remember. Took a roll of pics and I'll see about posting the good ones after I get them developed. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:52:21 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 09:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: What's with PowerRide? To: DC-Cycles Over the weekend I finally got a chance to catch up on the shows I videotaped over last week. While watching the new "Star Trek: Enterprise" on UPN (Wed, 8-10 pm) there was a commercial for PowerRide (formerly, and probably forever known as Colemans). They were advertising a special sale from last April. Are they too cheap to even update their own commercials? Sheesh. Glad to hear folks had a good time at the races. Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Alexandria, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: (NBCi folded... relocating web page soon!!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:59:01 2001 From: "Kevin Bechtel" To: Subject: Races at VIR Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:55:58 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C14A78.6A557180 For those who didn't get to go, the 600 supersport and formula extreme = races will be shown on speedvision on Tuesday night at 9:00 and 10:00 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C14A78.6A557180
For those who didn't get to go, the 600 = supersport=20 and formula extreme races will be shown on speedvision on Tuesday night = at 9:00=20 and 10:00
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C14A78.6A557180-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 13:08:21 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:08:00 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: What's with PowerRide? To: Cc: Yeah, I noticed that too. They've been running that same commecial since May. Scooter In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 1:00:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Louis F. Caplan" writes: > Over the weekend I finally got a chance to catch up on the shows I videotaped > over last week. While watching the new "Star Trek: Enterprise" on UPN (Wed, > 8-10 pm) there was a commercial for PowerRide (formerly, and probably forever > known as Colemans). They were advertising a special sale from last April. Are > they too cheap to even update their own commercials? Sheesh. > > Glad to hear folks had a good time at the races. > > Louis > > > ===== > "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours > Alexandria, VA > Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ > > Home Page: (NBCi folded... relocating web page soon!!) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 13:09:55 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:09:31 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: What's with PowerRide? To: Cc: Oops....sorry. I meant "since MARCH." It's Monday. Need I say more. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 1:08:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ScooterFZR writes: > Yeah, I noticed that too. They've been running that same commecial since May. > > Scooter > > In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 1:00:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Louis F. Caplan" writes: > > > Over the weekend I finally got a chance to catch up on the shows I videotaped > > over last week. While watching the new "Star Trek: Enterprise" on UPN (Wed, > > 8-10 pm) there was a commercial for PowerRide (formerly, and probably forever > > known as Colemans). They were advertising a special sale from last April. Are > > they too cheap to even update their own commercials? Sheesh. > > > > Glad to hear folks had a good time at the races. > > > > Louis > > > > > > ===== > > "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours > > Alexandria, VA > > Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ > > > > Home Page: (NBCi folded... relocating web page soon!!) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > > http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 13:16:38 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:16:26 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: VIR Weekend To: Forgot to mention, three bikes were stolen from the hotel parking lot Saturday night. Luckily, mine wasn't one of them. The only one I know of for sure was a tricked out R6. The guy had done a LOT of work to it. I guess that's why it got taken. Too pretty of an eye candy to pass up. Don't know what the other two were. At least they had someone with them in a truck hauling all their stuff so, they had a ride home. The funny thing is, they had all locked their bikes together Friday night but, didn't on Saturday. I guess they thought that nothing would happen. Anyway, lock those bikes up folks when you travel. Thieves prefer the easiest pickings. Scooter In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:47:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ScooterFZR@XXXXXX writes: > Well folks, > > Had a nice time at VIR this weekend. Rode down with Pual Wilson and Bruce Brownlee. Could have lived without all the 15-20mph winds at the track though. Can you say "windburn." Checked out the races from a few different vantage points. I won't tell who won any of the races, mainly because I don't know. ;-) I don't follow them that closely to tell you who they are by their number. > > Anyway, spotted Todd Peer, Hugh Caldwell, Sean Jordan, Brian Roach & Laura Granato (yes, they were there contrary to popular belief. ;-) ) Didn't hang around them too long because of that "big dick" they were hanging out with. You shouldn't do that to the racers. I'll let them explain that one for those of you who didn't find them. hehe I believe Linda Tanner was also spotted. I'm sure there were more of the DC Cyclists in attendance but, that's all I found/remember. > > Took a roll of pics and I'll see about posting the good ones after I get them developed. > > Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 14:03:04 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: VIR Weekend (warning: spoiler) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I was there this weekend too. Didn't see Scooter or the Goddards, but I did run into Brian & Laura and Hugh Caldwell. Had a great time watching at the Roller Coaster (corkscrew, spiral, whatever) with B&L and wandering around the pits. After the superbike race, I went down and watched the trophy presentation. Nicky Hayden had a smile on his face a mile wide and was being mobbed by the fans. Kurtis Roberts, as usual, was scowling and looked like he'd rather be anywhere but there. The fans clearly agreed - he seems highly disliked. It was nice to see all the various gestures of support for the terrorist victims. Mladin wore an all-black helmet (hey, I now have a racer-rep design!). Other riders wore arm bands and put US flags on their helmets, leathers and fairings. One racer (750SS GSXR) put a one-off US flag paint scheme on his bike - VERY cool looking and I might try to do that with my VTR. Lots of folks got autographs on various things. One guy brought an RC51 into the pits that had been painted (not just decaled) exactly like the Castrol Honda WSB bike of Colin Edwards, including everything down to the "Texas Tornado" insignia next to the windshield. He got DuHamel and Hayden to sign the tank. (I guess it's hard to get a hold of Edwards here in the US.) I had a great time and would do it again in a heartbeat. I'll ride down rather than drive next time, even though the riding temperatures must have been pretty chilly at night and in the mornings. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! 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Melanie --part1_15d.1d17e5b.28ea13fd_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 15:05:39 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 15:03:26 -0400 To: DC-Cycles From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: What's with PowerRide? At 09:52 AM 10/1/2001 -0700, Louis F. Caplan wrote: >Over the weekend I finally got a chance to catch up on the shows I videotaped >over last week. While watching the new "Star Trek: Enterprise" on UPN (Wed, >8-10 pm) there was a commercial for PowerRide (formerly, and probably forever >known as Colemans). I guess I lost focus on the commercials after the nude Vulcan oil massage scene. :-) /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 15:06:41 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:06:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Burrow Subject: Re: What's with PowerRide? To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, nighthawk700@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I saw that too. I thought that there might be some event coming up and the idiots over there forgot to change the date. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 16:00:33 2001 From: Han Park To: DC-Cycles Subject: VIR Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 15:55:20 -0400 I corner worked at VIR this past weekend and it was a blast. The only real drawback is that you don't have much time during the day to wander around because you're basically at one corner the whole day; however, you are definitely part of the race. I got to pick up Jamie Hacking's bike, clean up Mat Mladin's burn out (if you're lucky you get to put out Mat's burning bike right Sean?), watch Keener get 5th in Pro Thunder, "guide" racers back onto the track, snap some great pictures of turn 7 and 3, and watch the race from a really unique vantage point. I'm definitely going back next year! han From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 17:24:38 2001 From: "Paul Wilson" To: Cc: "dc-cycles list" Subject: VIR comments was Re: Congrats to Keener Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 17:25:42 -0400 Yes, unless my eyesight is failing me, the list of Buell Pro Thunder entrants was not in the program, so I was clueless as to who was who. I had a blast at VIR. Highly recommended. Aside from Scooter and Bruce I didn't run into any other DC folk. I overnighted in Raleigh and rode up for the day with some NC riding buddies. We roved around a lot of Saturday during the practice and qualifying heats to get a sense of the track layout and the good spots to watch and checked out the paddock area. We tended to stay put on Sunday and we got there too late to stake out a good viewing spot for turn 14, so we went to turn 4 for the 600 Supersport and staked out a good spot on the fence at turn 17 for the Superbikes. You can probably see as much of the track there as from any single vantage point, with the long downhill and then the final turn before they pour in on into the straightaway. Turn 4 is nice too since you can see the riders zoom down the straightaway in the distance, hear them slow for turn 1 and then watch them set up for 4 and 5, a left hand, right hand in quick succession. I watched the last race of the day from the deck of the concessions area. Having ridden a track school on the north course, I had some clue what the track looks like from the riders perspective, albeit at slightly lower speeds. ;) Gorgeous weather too and nice rides down and back. It was a little nippy coming back on 360 and 95; had to break out the electric gear for the first time this season last night. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: > Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) > > Scooter > > In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:05:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Danny Thompson" writes: > > > Congratulations are in order for "minied(a little) -sasquatch" after his 5th > > place finish in Pro Thunder at VIR! > > Danny Thompson From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 20:09:19 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 19:49:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bruce Brownlee Subject: Re: Races at VIR misc notes.... replays on Speedvision according to my satellite guide: Superbikes - 12:00PM noon (Tues) Supersport - 9:00 PM(Tues) Formula Extreme - 10:00PM (Tues) the 3 bikes stolen were 2 R6's and a Blackbird. these guys knew what they were going for, but they left a harley worth more than any of em... let the chips fall where they may on that one... most likely a bunch of pussies who couldnt lift, let alone ride, a harley.... :-) it was cold... VIR is a nice place. long ways to go before it becomes 'spectator' friendly, but traffic was nothing to worry about, we were on 58 headed north in 20 minutes. IMO, needs better grandstands for viewing, but for pure asthetics, it was typical southern VA.....the most beautiful place on earth.... it was cold coming home (as well as at the track, but at least i didnt need the electrics.....).... great trophys, but someone needs to point out the race was run in Halifax county.... still a bit of a trip from Franklin county, which everyone knows is the moonshine capital of the US.... it was cold.... add to the list of 'spotted people' (if they are on this list) Dillon Dickson and Doug Teague.... From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 21:16:56 2001 From: LakeSueE@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:16:42 EDT Subject: Re: Insurance Question -- THEFT To: peter.wimer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Try it when the motorcycle is your only "car" and you have nothing else to insure and you live in DC and you think Geico is charging you too much....it sucks....basically Geico is the only one who will insure me. From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 21:19:54 2001 From: laura granato To: Bruce Brownlee , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Races at VIR Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:19:40 -0400 O > > VIR is a nice place. long ways to go before it becomes 'spectator' > friendly, what do you mean? I'm curious.... >IMO, needs better grandstands for viewing, the reason they don't have grandstands is just because of what you said...to keep it beautiful. they wanted beautiful rolling hills and grass where spectators can come throw out a blanket and enjoy racing. a great idea IMHO. LAG From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 21:59:40 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 22:04:27 -0400 From: Paul Wilson To: laura granato CC: Bruce Brownlee , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Races at VIR laura granato wrote: > > O > > > > VIR is a nice place. long ways to go before it becomes 'spectator' > > friendly, > > what do you mean? I'm curious.... > > >IMO, needs better grandstands for viewing, > > the reason they don't have grandstands is just because of what you said...to > keep it beautiful. they wanted beautiful rolling hills and grass where > spectators can come throw out a blanket and enjoy racing. a great idea IMHO. > > LAG I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. After all this is the first time they've had a big draw motorcycle event there and I expect the next one will be better, with more vendors and manufacturers displays, etc. VIR was just resurrected as a venue in the past few years and they've come a long way. I imagine some vendors stayed away because they didn't know what kind of crowds VIR would draw. I found it well organized, especially traffic control. Event staff was everywhere. The food, while nothing to write home about, was on a par with similar events with a captive audience. It could be better, though in terms of variety and quality. It really is in the middle of nowhere and running out during the day is not a viable option. Bring your own is definitely preferred. I wouldn't even hazard a head count, but the grounds are so huge it can easily handle large crowds without it seeming crowded. The motorcycle parking was first rate, near the paddock and paved in asphalt! I was prepared to park in a field somewhere. After seeing the setup I'm much less reticent about camping the next time. Paul in DC 95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 22:53:48 2001 From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: VIR weekend.... Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 22:54:22 -0400 Hey, I too attended VIR as a worker, it was great. I saw a load of my old friends from my Yahoo! list (Superbikes Chat), but few DC-Cycles peeps 'cept for those of us working. Thursday was absolutely fantastic riding down via the BRP. But a tad cold. I left my house here in MD at about 6 a.m., made it to Front Royal by 7:50 and it had warmed up to 52. Brrr. Down 340 to Waynesboro and the temps were just great for the 180 mile ride down to Meadows of Dan (the intersection of the BRP and Rt. 58). About 1.5 hours later I was at my hotel in Danville (The Innkeeper North). Got my creds at the track that evening, went back to the hotel parking lot and began cleaning all the oil that my carb managed to barf all over the side of my 'Glide coming out of Peaks of Otter. Don't know what caused that, but it seems to be just that one-time deal, so 'Oh Well'. Friday I got hosed by Tom who was taking corner working assignments. He signed all the decrepit "AMA (ir)regulars" up first, so they got the cool corners and I had to work 5. Crappy view, not a lot to do but hey, it beat working at my real job. Saturday was better. I got a better assignment (turn 3) and got to see Hacking smack the Armco (How the **** did the AMA not have air fence there, but had it everywhere the **** else for the weekend? Unreal), but otherwise it was a quiet day. Oops, oh yeah, I helped Chandler push his broken down ZX-7RR to the pits when he peter'd out just before the entrance to 4. Sunday was both the best and worst day. I got assigned to Capt. 16 (dun-dun-DUHHHHH!! Captain Koontz!) because I followed Tom around like a puppy until he whipped out the sign up sheet ('scuse me while I whip this out) and I made him sign me up for 16. Great place to watch and work. Lessee - Mladin catches fire in morning practice after what I felt was a relatively uneventful low-side (if there is such a thing). The money bet is that had he not shut the bike down, there would have been no spark to start his bike afire, but who knows for real, all the evidence went up in really stinky carbon fiber smoke. So anyway, I dispatched my bee-yotch Sean Jordan from the station to go and put the flames out with those dog s**t worthless fire extinguishers they gave us. Job well done, young buck. Look for the goofy pale guy striking a pose on camera when SV shows the race again. Funniest line from that experience was the SV camera man calling back to the pits on his radio "It's really not that bad, I'd say with a new tank and sub section he could get it back up and running." Bwahh-ha ha ha! Sean wondered if he had fallen too, like maybe out of the cherry picker, because that bike is now a $250,000 paper weight. Going out trackside for the parade laps all afternoon was hilarious. We're standing - no lie - maybe 5 feet from the apex/curbing as these guys roll by us at about anywhere from 40-65 MPH. Sean was trying to convince himself the whole time as to whether or not he should hang his hand out for a high five. 'Til Mladin (I think) almost ripped is arm off as he went by at about 60 MPH headed into 17 on his celebratory lap. That was a riot. Also, Terry Reese (MARRC corner worker and bad ass Ninja in general) told Sean to "drop the yellow", meaning stop waving the flag. Sean dropped it at his feet immediately. Who the hell's gonna argue with Terry, he's about 6'6"/290. I almost filled my drawers laughing at him. Yeah, the day was great. But me in my infinite stupidity neglected to factor in to my trip the ride home from the track. See, it was cold. Real cold. Friggin' cold. And I was on two wheels. Bad move, genius. I took Rt. 58 west to Martinsville, then 220 North (got stuck in NASCAR or whatever traffic as they all exited the track there, that took forever) to Roanoke, then 81 north to Winchester to Fredneck to home. It was 52 degrees at 7:50 as I rolled past the bank sign along 581 there (and that's in the city, where I'll say it was a good 3-5 degrees warmer from all the concrete "city heat"!), and the temps were dropping fast. By the time I got to JMU, I was in tears. It was brutal. Must have been low- to mid-40s along 81 'til Winchester. I wasn't prepared at all. I was wearing leathers top to bottom, but still stopped often to add more clothes. Eventually my saddle bags were nearly empty because I was wearing almost everything I brought down with me. Anyway, I left the track at about 5:45, made Roanoke before 8:00 (coulda done better without the NASCRAP traffic), Winchester by 11:15 or so, Frederick by about 12:30 and home here by 1:10. So cold I was completely out of my mind. I woke up and my skin was still cold to the touch. Aside from the last 7.5 hours of the weekend, I had a blast. Can't wait to do it again. Next time I'd like 1) More time to wander about and explore 2) To see more people I know and just hang out 3) Better food for the corner workers! God! Crappy sandwiches and a coke? C'mon! I'd work a MARRC event for free just for the better food (and more food and more meals). More later when the spirit moves me. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard (~ 7,800 miles and counting) 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project (For Sale? I don't know. I guess) Will (corner) work for food From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 08:30:51 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Races at VIR Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 08:28:11 -0400 Well, I did camp (under the big tree - where was everyone?) and I have a coupla complaints about VIR. First and foremost - why don't they tell you they don't have a PA systems except in the paddock area and you need a frickin' FM radio to know what's going on?????? That reeeeeaaaaalllly annoyed me. Secondly - nice shower facilities, if you like cold showers. I'll go again, but I'll be better prepared. LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 08:59:28 2001 From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Subject: Re: Races at VIR Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:00:44 -0400 Waaaaaaa! VIR is about as nice as they come. If you get to the showers before others they will be hot (just like at home), if you find the PA, you will be able to hear (just like any other track), the broadcast on the radio is a big plus that you DON'T find most places. Sorry Linda, I'm in a grumpy mood this morning and tired of so much whining. We (in general) have it so good. Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:28 AM Subject: RE: Races at VIR > Well, I did camp (under the big tree - where was everyone?) and I have a > coupla complaints about VIR. > > First and foremost - why don't they tell you they don't have a PA systems > except in the paddock area and you need a frickin' FM radio to know what's > going on?????? That reeeeeaaaaalllly annoyed me. > > Secondly - nice shower facilities, if you like cold showers. > > I'll go again, but I'll be better prepared. > > LindaT. > Custom TankBags > Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) > 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy > 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) > 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing > http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/01 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 10:06:34 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 07:06:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: More VIR Impressions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I thought the facilities at VIR were really good. (I didn't camp though) The shower facilities could stand to be better from what I've seen, but as far as the professionalism of the facility and its staff I couldn't have been happier. They clearly put in a huge effort to get ready for the event and be seen as a high-class racing venue. The track was in great shape (as it should be for its age), the event staff were efficient and organized, and the weekend seemed to run very smoothly from one event to the next without troublesome delays or other snafus. I'd be suprised if VIR doesn't get another date from the AMA on the schedule for 2002. They deserve it. I'd even go so far as to say that if they improve the meal services, shower facilities and add buildings, that they could bag a date from WSB or GP at some time in the future. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 10:33:05 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:28:23 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Races at VIR On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, laura granato wrote: > O > > > > VIR is a nice place. long ways to go before it becomes 'spectator' > > friendly, > > what do you mean? I'm curious.... > In my opinion they should cut down a lot of the trees to allow better sight lines for the spectators. Hugh From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 11:00:58 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:00:30 EDT Subject: Re: Races at VIR To: ljtanner@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > Well, I did camp (under the big tree - where was everyone?) and I have a > coupla complaints about VIR. String her up....heretic!!! > First and foremost - why don't they tell you they don't have a PA systems > except in the paddock area and you need a frickin' FM radio to know what's > going on?????? That reeeeeaaaaalllly annoyed me. It's on a sign on the way into the paddock. It even tells you the station number to turn to. > Secondly - nice shower facilities, if you like cold showers. Normal at a track. Take it at odd times and you will be fine. > I'll go again, but I'll be better prepared. Hotels work MUCH better. From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 11:18:25 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:16:07 EDT Subject: Re: Races at VIR To: hcaldwell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/2/01 10:33:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hcaldwell@XXXXXX writes: > In my opinion they should cut down a lot of the trees > to allow better sight lines for the spectators. They already have. Each time I go back the track has improved significantly. Keener From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 11:34:29 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Races at VIR Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:31:06 -0400 Having the notification on a sign to the paddock does me no good if I've ridden in on a bike not so equipped. It should be on the ticket and the website. Give is first-timers a chance to enjoy the races. Hotels work better but they are MUCH more expensive. Us unemployed folks have to go the cheapest route. And congrats on your finish. My friend Paul was also in that race and finished 9th. LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner SKeener2@XXXXXX said about the lack of PA: It's on a sign on the way into the paddock. It even tells you the station number to turn to. > Secondly - nice shower facilities, if you like cold showers. Normal at a track. Take it at odd times and you will be fine. > I'll go again, but I'll be better prepared. Hotels work MUCH better. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 11:45:25 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:45:08 EDT Subject: Re: Races at VIR To: ljtanner@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > Having the notification on a sign to the paddock does me no good if I've > ridden in on a bike not so equipped. It should be on the ticket and the > website. Give is first-timers a chance to enjoy the races. You mean you didn't see me hawking $2 radios for $20??? :-)) > Hotels work better but they are MUCH more expensive. Us unemployed folks > have to go the cheapest route. True. I learned a long time ago at racetracks....it's better to sleep away. More expensive....but you actually get to sleep. > And congrats on your finish. My friend Paul was also in that race and > finished 9th. Thanks. I'll take it and run like a bandito!! :) Keener From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 12:23:39 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric M. Winslow" Subject: Re: Insurance Question -- THEFT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Markel does bikes in DC. www.bike-line.com They've been good to me. --- LakeSueE@XXXXXX wrote: > Try it when the motorcycle is your only "car" and you have nothing > else to > insure and you live in DC and you think Geico is charging you too > much....it > sucks....basically Geico is the only one who will insure me. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 13:14:19 2001 From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: VIR Weekend Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 13:14:13 -0400 Hey DC guys and gals, I was at VIR cornerworking also, and I happened to be ideally placed to take some pics of Mat Mladin's get-off at turn 17 during the practice session. Here's the URL of the page I set up: http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2qpt3 John Kozyn 95 VFR D-mode _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 13:16:17 2001 From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 13:04:40 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX >Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what >your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) It was pretty easy to pick him out in a field of 12 or 13. He was wearing black leathers with the name "Keener" on the back. Kinda hard to miss. JK _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 13:33:07 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Mat Mladin's crash To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX a very recent dc-cycles post had a narritive and photos by one of the corner workers. In the commentary it made mention that Mat had braked hard (2 skid marks) after the rear had already started to slide. Was the hard braking a deliberate attempt to low-side the bike instead of entertaining a chance of a high-side? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:04:49 2001 From: SBave@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:04:38 EDT Subject: VIR cornerworking To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --part1_c9.165ed261.28eb5bb6_boundary jckozyn@XXXXXX writes: > I was at VIR cornerworking also, and I happened to be ideally placed to ta= ke=20 > some pics of Mat Mladin's get-off at turn 17 during the practice session.=20 >=20 =A0=A0I'm sure this is a stupid question but... If you were cornerworking weren't you supposed to be doing something else=20 besides taking pictures? But cool pictures they were... =A0:) Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_c9.165ed261.28eb5bb6_boundary jckozyn@XXXXXX write= s:


I was at VIR cornerworking=20= also, and I happened to be ideally placed to take=20
some pics of Mat Mladin's get-off at turn 17 during the practice session= .=20


=A0=A0I'm sure this is a stupid question but...
If you were cornerworking weren't you supposed to be doing something els= e besides taking pictures? But cool pictures they were... =A0:)

Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R --part1_c9.165ed261.28eb5bb6_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:05:55 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Garmin eMap To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I would like to thank the listmembers for their help with my choice of GPS. I purchased a Garmin eMap "deluxe" with 8mb card & MapSource MetroGuide CD. I played around with it on the trip to VIR and found it very useful. I'll probably spring for the 16mb card (or more?) eventually though as the 8mb card will only load one detailed MetroGuide area at any one time. If anyone has suggestions on how to best mount the unit, good internet resources or other helpful advice, I'd love to hear them. I've already visited Mike Troutman's site extensively, btw. Chris ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:26:35 2001 Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 14:27:17 -0700 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Insurance Question -- THEFT **** At 10:05 AM 9/28/01 -0400, ROBERSON, Brian wrote: >>>> Insurance Question -- THEFT Recently a buddy of mine had his 98-99 F4 stolen. **** Sorry to hear this. **** He carried comprehensive with Allstate but not collision. He was rudely awakened when the insurance agent informed him that they would not cover the loss because 'theft' was a separate rider and he had not purchased it.. **** This does not sound right. The term "Comprehensive" normally includes theft. I've not worked for Allstate, so I cannot shed personal light on their practices, but the four insurance companies that I have worked for have rightly placed theft loss under comprehensive coverage, not under a separate endorsement or rider. Also, be weary of what an agent tell you. Agents really only sell and service the policy on the underwriting side, for a commission. Specifically agents do not decide what is covered or what is not covered. In fact 99% of the time the agent has nothing to do with the claim process. Some older muli-line captive agents use to have claim authority, but that is pretty rare these days. ***** Can someone shed some light on this.. Do most insurance companies make you pay for a separate 'theft' policy or rider? ***** Most do not. Sounds like you buddy needs to talk to the adjuster to get to the bottom of the issue. Harris Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:28:28 2001 From: "Wimer, Peter" To: "'Chris Weaver'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Garmin eMap Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:27:00 -0400 I mount mine using the Garmin Handlebar Mount. It works great and is pretty cheap, $5.98 + shipping. http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp?sku=010%2D10204%2D00 Pete Wimer peter.wimer@XXXXXX what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail? -----Original Message----- From: Chris Weaver [mailto:chris_vtr@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:06 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Garmin eMap I would like to thank the listmembers for their help with my choice of GPS. I purchased a Garmin eMap "deluxe" with 8mb card & MapSource MetroGuide CD. I played around with it on the trip to VIR and found it very useful. I'll probably spring for the 16mb card (or more?) eventually though as the 8mb card will only load one detailed MetroGuide area at any one time. If anyone has suggestions on how to best mount the unit, good internet resources or other helpful advice, I'd love to hear them. I've already visited Mike Troutman's site extensively, btw. Chris ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:54:57 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:54:14 EDT Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener To: jckozyn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/2/01 1:17:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jckozyn@XXXXXX writes: > >Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what > >your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) > > It was pretty easy to pick him out in a field of 12 or 13. He was wearing > black leathers with the name "Keener" on the back. I didn't want to have to point it out. Not like I wore black leathers with my name in big white letters on it....really. :) > Kinda hard to miss. OK....next time I'll pick something more distinctive....really!!! From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 15:09:02 2001 Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 14:13:14 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: Rust proofing a gas tank? Hey all, Is there a local shop that carries some sort of rust treatment stuff for gas tanks? The archives mentioned a product called Kreme? Who has this stuff? I just picked up a tank from a junk yard and it's a little rusty on the inside. George Cole From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 15:46:36 2001 From: "Genna Melamed" To: Subject: Salvage?? Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 15:46:34 -0400 Does anyone know any salvage places where I can find Ducati parts? Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 18:19:14 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 15:19:12 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: racer sponsorship? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'm a newbie but I wondered do any of the 'local' bike shops sponsor new guys? Or does one have to be a up-and-coming star to garner any deals? I'm interested in price breaks on race specific items like timers, tire warmers, rear-sets, tuning services, tires, fairings, and odds and ends that tend to get whacked from time to time. With several people already having headed down there this past weekend, are there any going again this weekend for CCS? It'll be my first time to lay eyes on VIR. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 18:52:19 2001 From: laura granato To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: racer sponsorship? Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 18:52:02 -0400 > > With several people already having headed down there > this past weekend, are there any going again this > weekend for CCS? It'll be my first time to lay eyes on VIR. > Matthew: CCS cancelled their VIR races this weekend. It is now going to be nesba track days. Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 20:46:04 2001 From: "Patrick Caulfield" To: "DCCycles" Subject: VIR Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 20:41:09 -0400 ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C14B82.90E5DE60 Just wanted to add my 2 cents to my experience at VIR. Showed up at Will Call to pick up my tickets (they messed up and didn't m= ail them to me) and found out they only had one of my two tickets. But t= hey lady at the gate was so friendly they refunded me the price of two ti= ckets. I never asked for a refund, just wanted my tickets, which she gav= e me right away and in we went. Not a bad deal. Camping was nice. Cleanest portables I've ever been in. Only bad thing,= those damn camping stickers are a bitch to get off your windshield. Wha= t were they thinking? Other than the typical not spectator friendly, no big screen tv's (hey, n= o Laguna Seca) and no PA speakers around I really enjoyed the place. I'l= l be back next year for some track days for sure. The vendor displays could have been better but they still managed to take= $900 of my money in some new Kobe leather and gloves. -Chayne =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C14B82.90E5DE60
Just wanted to= add my 2 cents to my experience at VIR.
 
Sho= wed up at Will Call to pick up my tickets (they messed up and didn't mail= them to me) and found out they only had one of my two tickets.  But= they lady at the gate was so friendly they refunded me the price of two = tickets.  I never asked for a refund, just wanted my tickets, which = she gave me right away and in we went.  Not a bad deal.
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Camping was nice.  Cleanest portables I've ever bee= n in.  Only bad thing, those damn camping stickers are a bitch to ge= t off your windshield.  What were they thinking?
 
Other than the typical not spectator friendly, no big screen tv= 's (hey, no Laguna Seca) and no PA speakers around I really enjoyed the p= lace.  I'll be back next year for some track days for sure.
 
The vendor displays could have been better but they = still managed to take $900 of my money in some new Kobe leather and glove= s.
 
-Chayne

------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C14B82.90E5DE60-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 20:55:58 2001 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, race@XXXXXX, SV650@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 20:50:53 -0400 Subject: Summit Point Tune and Test Tomorrow @ 9:00 am X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-9,11,13,15 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Still plenty of spots left for tomorrows tune and test day, hosted by Roger Lyle. Great day for licensed racers to practice and tune their race prepped bikes. At this point, its probably best to just show up at the track. Day begins at 9:00. Roger can be reached at (301) 933-2599 or rogerlyle@XXXXXX Should be a great day! Tom Fitzpatrick CCS#80'6 (www.celticracing.com) Sponsors: *Fast Lane Cycles - fastlanecycles@XXXXXX (703)818-8890 (www.fastlanecycles.com)* *Barnacle Bill's Racing Leathers - barnacle@XXXXXX (www.racingleather.com)* *Nuts and Bolts Racing Racer Web Sites - rchapin@XXXXXX (www.nbracesites.com)* *Janet Bell TAX Preparation, Accounting and Consulting (belljan@XXXXXX)* From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 22:26:06 2001 From: ThomasAJordan@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 22:25:51 EDT Subject: Re: Salvage?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Italy? From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 22:31:46 2001 From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: More on VIR Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 22:31:37 -0400
Hey DC guys and gals,
 
I just got through reading peoples' remarks about this past weekend and wanted to acknowledge some people and disagree with others :)
 
It was nice to meet Howard, Terry and to see several other MARRC denizens too. I did not get a chance to walk the pits hardly at all, but several of my riding buds were in attendance (note to Bruce Roundtree: Dillon did Levels 3 and 4 with CSS there yesterday and today).
 
And to Steve Broadstreet's question : "If you were cornerworking weren't you supposed to be doing something else besides taking pictures? But cool pictures they were..."  Thanks, but I wanted to set the record straight that I did so during times when the station had full coverage :)
 
Mattew Patton asked: "a very recent dc-cycles post had a narritive and photos by one of the corner workers. In the commentary it made mention that Mat had braked hard (2 skid marks) after the rear had already started to slide. Was the hard braking a deliberate attempt to low-side the bike instead of entertaining a chance of a high-side?"
 
This is a very interesting question and I'm not sure I am the person to answer it, but I will try. The evidence as I described it was there plain as day. First a long curved skid mark, then a few feet later two skid marks more or less side by side, separated by about a foot maybe, not exactly straight, but not curving as much as the first one. I would hazard to guess that he may well have deliberately low-sided it. Others may have different ideas, but I like Patton's hypothesis, which did not occur to me. Thanks.
 
Anyway, that was the most dramatic spill I have ever seen corner working!
 
I loved VIR. I camped with a bunch of people from "Pennsyl-tucky" who follow Pro-AMA like some used to follow Jerry :) Hardly any of them rode, but they had gas BBQ's, food, and all kinds of creature comforts.
 
Yeah, the hot water ran out, but it was still warmer than the air temperature at night. The kiosks for the corner workers was pretty cool. I agree with Howard that MARRC feeds you better though,  but they don't offer you $50/day either. And I agree that the ride home was c-o-l-d! Especially after being in the hot sun all day. Happily I had my electric jacket liner :)
 
I also talked with several people who did NESBA and they concurred with other's favorable remarks . I'd like to try that school this spring - at VIR of course!
 
John  Kozyn
95 VFR
D-mode
 

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From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 23:09:42 2001 Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 23:08:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Rust proofing a gas tank? To: George.Cole@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" George.Cole@XXXXXX writes: >Hey all, > >Is there a local shop that carries some sort of rust treatment stuff for >gas tanks? > >The archives mentioned a product called Kreme? Who has this stuff? > >I just picked up a tank from a junk yard and it's a little rusty on the >inside. > I have a kit or two. Consists of acid wash/etch, drier (acetone), and coating polymer. Bit of a nuisance to use (have to remove and seal off petcock), but works pretty well if you follow mfg. directions. $20 - $25 (don't remember exact $). --garcia From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 00:12:49 2001 From: "Genna Melamed" To: Subject: Re: Salvage?? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 00:12:41 -0400 All of it???? :) Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX www.erols.com/genna ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: Salvage?? > Italy? > From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 06:07:19 2001 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 06:02:56 -0400 Subject: Prince William County Leadership Institute X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-14,16-21,23-25,27-28,30,32-36,38,40,42,44-52,54-55,57-59,61 From: Tom Fitzpatrick I wrote about this before. If you live in Prince William County, Virginia, and want to learn how your County Government operates, this is a terrific opportunity. See content below, which was clipped from an announcement of my County Supervisor's office. Tom --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "McGhee, Pamela J." Cc: "Griggs Ruth T." Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 13:12:54 -0400 Subject: OCCOQUAN DISTRICT NEWSLETTER - OCTOBER The Occoquan District Newsletter Provided by Ruth Griggs, Occoquan District Supervisor, rgriggs@XXXXXX (703) 792-4643. Visit www.occoquandistrict.org October 2001 Community Leadership Institute <<...>> What is the Community Leadership Institute? We want you! Prince William County Government wants you sitting front and center in the next session of the Community Leadership Institute. The 12-week citizens' academy meets one evening a week from 7 to 9 p.m. Citizens hear about the budgeting and strategic planning process, tour the police and fire department's training facility, and learn about the different functions of various County agencies. Each week the group meets at a different County facility, and light refreshments are served before the class begins. Why should I attend the Community Leadership Institute? There are as many reasons to attend the Institute, as there are people who attend. Some people want to learn more about their local government. Some have recently moved to the area and want to find a way to get involved and make a difference in their community. Some class members would like to use their valuable skills by volunteering for County agencies or departments. How can I apply to attend the Community Leadership Institute? Applications are continually accepted for both the fall and spring class sessions. If your application is not selected for a session, it will be kept on file. You will be automatically considered for the next class. Applications can be faxed to you at any fax machine in the 703 area code by calling PWC-INFO (at 792-4636) and requesting message number 210. Applications can be mailed to you by calling the County Executive's Office at 792-6600 and requesting an application packet. For more information please call Citizen Participation Coordinator Desiree Wolfe at 792-6635. From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 07:53:47 2001 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 07:53:39 EDT Subject: Re: Insurance Question -- THEFT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/2/2001 2:28:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, harris@XXXXXX writes: > Sounds like you buddy needs to talk to the adjuster to get > to the bottom of the issue. Or... Lord help him, a lawyer. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 08:16:10 2001 From: Phil Simerly To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Pentagon victims relief ride Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:08:45 -0400 Pentagon victims relief fund ride. Check it out here. http://www.hdwash.com/hog/ride-info/pvrr.jpg HillJack ICQ - 2014076 YahooIM - CouchRyder 2001 FLHTC (The Couch) From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 08:30:26 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 05:30:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Salvage?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Isn't any Ducati really just a parts bike waiting to happen? ;^) --- Genna Melamed wrote: > All of it???? > > :) > From: > > Italy? ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 08:30:51 2001 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:30:41 EDT Subject: Re: Rust proofing a gas tank? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Let me add this to the Kreme thread. I have used this stuff and like it BUT. First: Do it outside or in an area where the (nasty) fumes will not be a problem. Second: Buy yourself a cheap fish tank air pump a little air hose from same. after applying the coating put the air hose in through the petcock hole and plug the pump in. That little air flow through the tank will dramatically speed up the drying process. I still have one of those pumps in my tool box. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 08:46:47 2001 From: "ROBERSON, Brian" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Salvage?? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:46:34 -0400 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C09.6F469D80 Chris, That's SOME expensive parts bike...!!! -----Original Message----- From: Chris Weaver [mailto:chris_vtr@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:30 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Salvage?? Isn't any Ducati really just a parts bike waiting to happen? ;^) --- Genna Melamed wrote: > All of it???? > > :) > From: > > Italy? ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C09.6F469D80 RE: Salvage??

Chris,

That's SOME expensive parts bike...!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Weaver [mailto:chris_vtr@XXXXXX] =
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:30 AM
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Salvage??


Isn't any Ducati really just a parts bike waiting = to
happen? ;^)


--- Genna Melamed <genna@XXXXXX> = wrote:
> All of it????
>
> :)

> From: <ThomasAJordan@XXXXXX>
> > Italy?


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Chris Weaver
VTR1000f

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C09.6F469D80-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 09:11:20 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 06:11:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Zigmond Subject: numbered spaces To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I noticed something new when I parked today. What is with the numbered spaces at McPhereson Square (15th and Eye NW)? I would like to think it's an effort to maximize the number of bikes that can fit by organizing it in such a fashion. However, I am suspicious that it may be a ploy for the meter maids to keep tabs on which bikes are in which spaces and for how long. Has the "4 hour parking" ever been enforced before? Cliff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 09:13:02 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:12:53 EDT Subject: Re: racer sponsorship? To: pattonme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX > I'm a newbie but I wondered do any of the 'local' bike > shops sponsor new guys? Or does one have to be a > up-and-coming star to garner any deals? I'm interested > in price breaks on race specific items like timers, > tire warmers, rear-sets, tuning services, tires, > fairings, and odds and ends that tend to get whacked > from time to time. Sponserships at the club level are basically discounts for racers. Fast Lane in Chantilly does this for racers. You can also try SpeedWerks in Dover DE. (That's the shop I use.) > With several people already having headed down there > this past weekend, are there any going again this > weekend for CCS? It'll be my first time to lay eyes on VIR. The races for CCS this weekend were cancelled. CCS members got a mailer about it....and it's on their website somewhere. Keener From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 09:27:22 2001 From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Pentagon victims relief ride Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:24:54 -0400 Also going on the same day is the ride from Rockville Harley to Mount Vernon. Meet at Rockville Harley at 8:30, take off at 9. There was a post a while back about the same ride, and one of the dc-cycles "regulars" is helping to plan the Rockville Harley one. I have all the details if anyone needs them, and if anyone wants to meet in NW DC for the ride to Rockville Harley let me know. I'll have coffee and bagels or something ready for the cold morning! -patti -----Original Message----- From: Phil Simerly [mailto:Phil_Simerly@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:09 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Pentagon victims relief ride Pentagon victims relief fund ride. Check it out here. http://www.hdwash.com/hog/ride-info/pvrr.jpg HillJack ICQ - 2014076 YahooIM - CouchRyder 2001 FLHTC (The Couch) From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 09:38:34 2001 From: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 09:32:48 -0400 Subject: DC parking To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C14C0F.E43B5A80 I am currently parking at 15th and G streets next to Old Ebbitt Grill, and my office is moving to 1750 Pennsylvania. I have noticed parking at the corners of 18th and G, if anyone parks there, can you please let me know what time I would need to be there by in the morning to get a spot. 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To: pattonme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- SKeener2@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'm a newbie but I wondered do any of the 'local' bike > > shops sponsor new guys? Or does one have to be a > > up-and-coming star to garner any deals? I'm interested > > in price breaks on race specific items like timers, > > tire warmers, rear-sets, tuning services, tires, > > fairings, and odds and ends that tend to get whacked > > from time to time. > > Sponserships at the club level are basically discounts > for racers. Fast Lane > in Chantilly does this for racers. You can also try > SpeedWerks in Dover DE. > (That's the shop I use.) also cycle accessory discounters in gaithersburg, md -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 10:08:53 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 07:08:49 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Relief ride this weekend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Has anyone heard about the "Attack on America Relief Ride" this weekend? It supposedly takes off at 9am from Fair Oaks mall, that's all I know. I am interested in attending, does anyone have any info they could share? Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 10:49:31 2001 From: Brian Roach To: "Patrick Caulfield" , "DCCycles" Subject: Re: VIR Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:48:38 -0400 On Tuesday 02 October 2001 20:41, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > Other than the typical not spectator friendly, no big screen tv's (hey, no > Laguna Seca) and no PA speakers around I really enjoyed the place. I'll be > back next year for some track days for sure. Talk to the AMA Pro Racing about that one. They'd rather spend millions in an attempt to rip off Roger Edmundson (See Edmundson vs. AMA) than buy things like Air Fence and Big Screen TVs to make the sport better. The screens at Laguna are owned by the FIM (SBK), who IMHO actually know what they're doing 99% of the time (Ok... the treaded tire thing for superbikes in 2004 is a little weird, but if FIA F1 can do it...). 90k spectators at Laguna, 10k at any given AMA event.... Just my $.02, as always. - Roach From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 11:31:41 2001 From: "Genna Melamed" To: Subject: Re: Salvage?? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 11:31:29 -0400 Well, it's not that bad.... :) My need is a result of a high-speed spill. But I got the part now, so all is good.... Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Weaver" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Salvage?? > Isn't any Ducati really just a parts bike waiting to > happen? ;^) > > > --- Genna Melamed wrote: > > All of it???? > > > > :) > > > From: > > > Italy? > > > ===== > Chris Weaver > VTR1000f > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:18:00 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:17:57 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Group ride this weekend in Washington, DC area To: CBR List , DC Cycles M-^SAttack on AmericaM-^T Relief Ride October 6, 2001 Date: October 6, 2001 Starting Location: Fair Oaks Mall Parking Lot (in front of Sears) Departure Time: 9:00 AM SHARP! Destination: Fallen Firefighters Memorial in Emmitsburg, MD We will be collecting your donations at the Fair Oaks Parking Lot before departing for the American Red Cross September 11 Disaster Relief Fund. (Checks are the preferred method M-^V make checks payable to American Red Cross and in the memo portion write September 11 Disaster Relief). We will be joining the 3rd annual M-^SRed Helmets RideM-^T at Francis Scott Key Mall in Frederick, MD (Address: Rt. 270 and Market St.) with a police escort to the Fallen Firefighters Memorial in Emmitsburg, MD. There will be a Wreath Laying Service, refreshments and socializing time at the final destination of the Memorial. If you would like to show your support and participate, contact Gary Pancione @ 703-403-2138 (cell) or at PANCIONE_GL@XXXXXX (email) or at GPANCIONE@XXXXXX (email). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:19:50 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 11:26:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks Lori ---- '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:24:03 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: Lori Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Here we go again!! --- Lori Wilson wrote: > Hey > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > have a question . A friend > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > good/bad/indifferent?? > Thanks > Lori > > ---- > '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" > '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" > '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" > '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:27:54 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:20:32 -0400 Prepare yourself for the onslaught. I'll give it to you in a nutshell. Powerride sucks!!! They are bandits and thieves and I would not buy anything from them unless I was desperate. Other than that, they're fine ;-) LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner Lori Wilson innocently asked: Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:30:41 2001 From: "ROBERSON, Brian" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:30:35 -0400 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C31.1C2D64D0 This topic has been hashed and rehashed many times.. The archives probably have a ton of info on it... Truly your mileage may vary when dealing with Coleman.. They have repackaged their name, but in my opinion their service hasn't changed much. Most people here will tell you the experience they have had is very sub par. Of course there are probably people who will say the opposite... My friend bought a 99 F4 sometime ago and had a good experience... They even bought the bike back from him when he was ready to sell it... Brian -----Original Message----- From: Lori Wilson [mailto:wilsonl@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:27 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks Lori ---- '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C31.1C2D64D0 RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide

This topic has been hashed and rehashed many times.. = The archives probably have a ton of info on it... Truly your mileage = may vary when dealing with Coleman.. They have repackaged their name, = but in my opinion their service hasn't changed much.  Most people = here will tell you the experience they have had is very sub par.  = Of course there are probably people who will say the = opposite...

My friend bought a 99 F4 sometime ago and had a good = experience... They even bought the bike back from him when he was ready = to sell it...

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Lori Wilson [mailto:wilsonl@XXXXXX] =
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:27 AM
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide


Hey
I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but = have a question . A friend
of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from = Coleman PowerRide in Falls
Church. Has anyone had experience with them- = good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks Lori

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'82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug"
'85 Honda VF500F "Victoria"
'95 Yam XV750 "Athena"
'98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon"

------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C31.1C2D64D0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:36:05 2001 From: Cedric Bernescut To: DC-CYCLES Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:35:55 -0400 Linda was pretty succinct in her analysis but as a former and recovering salesperson from Coleman's, I have to add that the entire operation (save possibly the repair shop) is infused with the philosophy of extracting the maximum return from their customers and honesty, decency and appreciation for motorcycling are all casualties in their quest. Basically, their sphincter stretchers. Cedric Prepare yourself for the onslaught. I'll give it to you in a nutshell. Powerride sucks!!! They are bandits and thieves and I would not buy anything from them unless I was desperate. Other than that, they're fine ;-) LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner Lori Wilson innocently asked: Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:37:17 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Uh oh... Here we go. As virtually everyone will tell you on this list, STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM POWERRIDE. They are well known among pretty much anyone who's dealt with them as a rip-off joint. The bikes are overpriced, the salespeople are liars, the management wants their staff to screw you, the parts department puts a HUUUGE markup on parts, and the accessories department is staffed with clueless morons. Please please please do not let your friend buy from them. Contact Loudoun Motorsports, Manassas Honda/Kawasaki, or pretty much any other Honda dealer for a better experience. No shop around here is that great, but they're ALL better than Powerride/Coleman. Chris --- Lori Wilson wrote: > Hey > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > have a question . A friend > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > good/bad/indifferent?? > Thanks > Lori __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:38:36 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:38:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Really needs to be a DC-Cycles "FAQ" - Q. Coleman/Powe-ride Suck or no suck? A. Depends if you like poor service, surely staff, and high prices. - Q. SUVs Hate them or Love them? A. Depends if you're in one or under one. - Q. Do you shoot with your left or right hand? A. Depends on if you're wearing a helmet. - Q. Speed/Redlight Cameras Cool or not? A. Depends -- do you like to lane split? - Q. Oil - Dino or Mobile-1 A. Depends -- do you use slick 50? - Q. Chain or Shafty? A. Depends -- Can you Wheelie? etc... On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Trey Herb wrote: > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: Trey Herb > To: Lori Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide > > Here we go again!! > > --- Lori Wilson wrote: > > Hey > > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > > have a question . A friend > > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > > good/bad/indifferent?? > > Thanks > > Lori > > > > ---- > > '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" > > '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" > > '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" > > '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com > -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:44:32 2001 From: "Guiseppi Milano" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:43:15 -0400 I second that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide > Prepare yourself for the onslaught. I'll give it to you in a nutshell. > > Powerride sucks!!! They are bandits and thieves and I would not buy > anything from them unless I was desperate. > > Other than that, they're fine ;-) > > LindaT. > Custom TankBags > Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) > 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy > 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) > 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing > http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner > > Lori Wilson innocently asked: > > Hey > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? > Thanks > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:46:18 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:46:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Cargo Van & Trailer For Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'm getting rid of the cargo van I originally bought from another list member for carting my YSR around. I sold the YSR, so now the van has to go. The van doesn't seem to want to start, but it's a little finicky. It also needs an emissions check. It's great for hauling a bike (or two) around in and has a lot of power and a strengthened chassis for towing. I paid $500, but since it doesn't want to start right now, I'll take the best offer I get (and I mean that literally). I also have a single-rail trailer that I used to use to haul the YSR around before I got the van. It's almost brand new and you can see it at the website of the folks I bought it from at http://www.scandipacific.com/pages/trailers/motorcycle02.html (it's the one at the top of the page). I'm asking $150 or best offer for this item. I'll give more details on either of these items to whoever might be interested. No need to buy both together. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:49:37 2001 From: Han Park To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: FYI: Red Light Camera on 50 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:44:39 -0400 I noticed this the other day. There is a red light camera on 50 going west a light or two before you hit the 7 corners area. I forget the name of the road at the intersection. I remember seeing them put it up and then while heading east toward DC yesterday I saw it flash as it caught some cage running the light. FYI, I'm just waiting for the speed cameras. han From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:51:26 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:51:07 EDT Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: chris_vtr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/3/01 1:40:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chris_vtr@XXXXXX writes: > Please please please do not let your friend buy from > them. Contact Loudoun Motorsports, Manassas > Honda/Kawasaki, or pretty much any other Honda dealer > for a better experience. No shop around here is that > great, but they're ALL better than Powerride/Coleman. Gee...and here I would warn you away from Loudoun due to unprofessional behavior. DOH! From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:52:34 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:51:11 -0400 Subject: NESBA track days and Coleman Powersport. From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Regarding Coleman....STAY AWAY! 'Nuff said there, next subject. Anybody doing the NESBA track days at VIR this weekend? Thinking about joining and heading down there for the weekend. Thanks! "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:55:03 2001 From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 13:43:17 -0400 You forgot: Q: Boxers or Briefs? A: Depends. ;^) >From: "Daniel H. Brown" >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide >Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:38:30 -0400 (EDT) > > > >Really needs to be a DC-Cycles "FAQ" > >- Q. Coleman/Powe-ride Suck or no suck? > A. Depends if you like poor service, surely staff, and high prices. > >- Q. SUVs Hate them or Love them? > A. Depends if you're in one or under one. > >- Q. Do you shoot with your left or right hand? > A. Depends on if you're wearing a helmet. > >- Q. Speed/Redlight Cameras Cool or not? > A. Depends -- do you like to lane split? > >- Q. Oil - Dino or Mobile-1 > A. Depends -- do you use slick 50? > >- Q. Chain or Shafty? > A. Depends -- Can you Wheelie? > >etc... > > > >On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Trey Herb wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Trey Herb > > To: Lori Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide > > > > Here we go again!! > > > > --- Lori Wilson wrote: > > > Hey > > > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > > > have a question . A friend > > > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > > > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > > > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > > > good/bad/indifferent?? > > > Thanks > > > Lori > > > > > > ---- > > > '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" > > > '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" > > > '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" > > > '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > > http://phone.yahoo.com > > > >-- >Dan Brown >brown@XXXXXX > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 14:03:33 2001 From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:01:04 -0400 I have had very good experiences with Heyser Cycle in Laurel. Yes I know it is a haul but they are nice, knowledgable, reliable and reasonably priced. I've never dealt with Coleman because I have been satisfied with Heyser--- no need to go anywhere else. But I've heard they are evil there at Coleman. -p --- Lori Wilson wrote: > Hey > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > have a question . A friend > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > good/bad/indifferent?? > Thanks > Lori __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 14:12:12 2001 From: "Natasha Louis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 14:00:23 -0400 I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went in there last year to buy an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was stupid. The idiot had the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a Ninja 250 instead. This dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling skills. They will never get a penny from me. Natasha >From: Chris Weaver >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide >Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) > >Uh oh... Here we go. > >As virtually everyone will tell you on this list, STAY >FAR FAR AWAY FROM POWERRIDE. They are well known among >pretty much anyone who's dealt with them as a rip-off >joint. The bikes are overpriced, the salespeople are >liars, the management wants their staff to screw you, >the parts department puts a HUUUGE markup on parts, >and the accessories department is staffed with >clueless morons. > >Please please please do not let your friend buy from >them. Contact Loudoun Motorsports, Manassas >Honda/Kawasaki, or pretty much any other Honda dealer >for a better experience. No shop around here is that >great, but they're ALL better than Powerride/Coleman. > >Chris > >--- Lori Wilson wrote: > > Hey > > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > > have a question . A friend > > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > > good/bad/indifferent?? > > Thanks > > Lori > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. >http://phone.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 14:52:32 2001 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Natasha Louis" Cc: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:52:14 -0400 Geez, usually I'd expect them to do the opposite, try to move you up to a more expensive and powerful bike. It is insulting if the salesperson assumed you were a newbie without asking a few questions first, though. Actually, if your were a newbie, I'd commend them for trying to steer you toward the Ninja 250 instead of the F4. Personally, I wouldn't let them put air in my tires. And their parts markup, holy cow. I needed a valve cover bolt and a fairing bolt for my VFR (neither of which they had in stock, BTW.) The only reason I considered them was proximity, the assumption that they'd have a well stocked parts inventory (wrong!) and the desire to get the job done ASAP. Their price was about 40% higher than Motorcycle Factory for the same OEM parts, plus waiting five days. Forget that. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Natasha Louis > I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went in there last year to buy > an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was stupid. The idiot had > the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a Ninja 250 instead. This > dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling skills. They will never > get a penny from me. > > Natasha From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 15:19:00 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:10:36 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide While I can understand why you would be insulted it seems the salesman might of been concerned for your safety. I believe the usual line at coleman's would be to walk in looking for 250 and have the salesman sell you an R1. Hugh On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Natasha Louis wrote: > I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went in there last year to buy > an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was stupid. The idiot had > the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a Ninja 250 instead. This > dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling skills. They will never > get a penny from me. > > Natasha From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 15:35:33 2001 From: "Forbes, Trey" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:28:31 -0400 if your friend is looking for the best price check out motorcycle factory in woodbrigde. when i was looking at the f4i powerride couldn't come close. a friend of mine swears by the service dept. there too. hope this helps.. -T -----Original Message----- From: hcaldwell [mailto:hcaldwell@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:11 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide While I can understand why you would be insulted it seems the salesman might of been concerned for your safety. I believe the usual line at coleman's would be to walk in looking for 250 and have the salesman sell you an R1. Hugh On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Natasha Louis wrote: > I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went in there last year to buy > an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was stupid. The idiot had > the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a Ninja 250 instead. This > dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling skills. They will never > get a penny from me. > > Natasha From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 15:50:28 2001 From: Cedric Bernescut To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:50:25 -0400 The other day I was in there looking for a part and my visit went as follows: The part was out of stock. The Phoenix jacket I bought at FastLane for $129.00 I saw posted at $199.00. The synthetic oil I wanted was $9.16 a quart. A customer was sitting on a CBR929RR while the salesman explained the paperwork procedure on how to get a motorcycle license at the DMV. I heard no mention of MSF, or rider training of any kind. Cedric While I can understand why you would be insulted it seems the salesman might of been concerned for your safety. I believe the usual line at coleman's would be to walk in looking for 250 and have the salesman sell you an R1. Hugh From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 15:58:20 2001 From: "Dexter Medley" To: Subject: Keener result? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:41:47 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C14C21.E979F440 I thought Keener said he finished fifth in his VIR race this=20 weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results with=20 him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it? -- Larry ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C14C21.E979F440
I thought Keener said he finished = fifth in his=20 VIR race this
weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results = with=20
him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it?

--=20 Larry
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C14C21.E979F440-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:10:38 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:10:05 EDT Subject: Re: Keener result? To: pltrgyst@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/3/01 4:04:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pltrgyst@XXXXXX writes: > I thought Keener said he finished fifth in his VIR race this > weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results with > him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it? The guy in 3rd place was incorrectly DQ'd. When John Ulrich of RoadRacing World and Team Valvoline Emgo Suzuki spoke to the AMA officials and pointed out their oversight they went ahead and corrected it. I finished 5th....the DQ moved me to 4th...and now I'm back to 5th again. No problem...the guy rode very well. Keener From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:15:00 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: FYI: Red Light Camera on 50 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX also spotted one in md. on old georgetown road at edson road as you head n/e toward 355 --- Han Park wrote: > I noticed this the other day. There is a red light > camera on 50 > going west a light or two before you hit the 7 corners > area. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:15:52 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:14:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: Thanks! Thanks to everyone for the info on PowerRide. I think I've pretty much steered her totally clear of them! She's calling around to other places to see what kind of deals she can get- Thanks again, and sorry to ask an apparently repetitive question! (back to lurk mode) Lori ---- '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:16:39 2001 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'George.Cole@XXXXXX'" Subject: Rust proofing a gas tank? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:18:00 -0400 George Cole questioned, "Is there a local shop that carries some sort of rust treatment stuff for gas tanks? The archives mentioned a product called Kreme? Who has this stuff? I just picked up a tank from a junk yard and it's a little rusty on the inside." Kreme is just that "Kreme" Some swear by it, more swear at it. Try POR-15 http://www.por-15.com/ Kit is $50 and can't be beat. Just be sure the cleaned tank is dry. Strosniders has the rubber stoppers If you're looking for something cheaper -- with a caveat: I've not tried it but from SabMag: Subject: Tank-derust Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:09:29 -0800 From: "W. Jason Grennell" Subject: Re: Por15 or alternative...Rusteco If you feel brave, the solution is simple. Mosey down to the hardware store, pool/spa section, $5 should net you a container of sodium carbonate, its a pH increaser, mild alkali. Mix a little with water, couple tablespoons per gallon. Air out your gas tank, plug all the holes but for the filler neck. fill the tank with the solution, take your battery charger or even a battery, (-) lead to the tank and the (+) lead to an electrode suspended in the solution. I used a 5/16 x 2 inch bolt as the electrode. This process has no effect on steel, only rust, it converts Fe2O3 to Fe3O4, orange rust to black oxide, loose rust and crud will collect on the electrode, wash it off now and again, every few hours worked for me. When you're done, rinse and dry the tank out, the orange rust will be hard black deposits that are tight to the steel. I did this twice, 15 hours each time as the tank was really rusty. The remaining deposits will inhibit further rust and if you keep the tank full, it should be just fine as is. I also collected several tablespoons worth of crud off of the electrode cleanings. As this process does not harm steel, you can't let it run too long. -Jason Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:19:35 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:17:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Keener result? From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --Apple-Mail-1-210752775 On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 03:41 , Dexter Medley wrote: > I thought Keener said he finished fifth in his VIR race this > weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results with > him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it? The rider who finished 3rd place on another SV was disqualified for not=20= making weight. (Tech said that minimum weight was 380 lbs.)=20 Unfortunately, the tech inspectors were not using an updated rulebook=20 that said SV's were exempt. So that rider's finish was re-instated. "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the=20 skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-210752775 On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 03:41 , Dexter Medley wrote: I thought Keener said he finished fifth in his VIR race this weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results with him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it? The rider who finished 3rd place on another SV was disqualified for not making weight. (Tech said that minimum weight was 380 lbs.) Unfortunately, the tech inspectors were not using an updated rulebook that said SV's were exempt. So that rider's finish was re-instated. "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-210752775-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:22:07 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:20:18 -0400 Subject: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX http://slim.achieversusa.com/ryan/bostrom_turn4.jpg http://slim.achieversusa.com/ryan/xIMG_7060.jpg These are big, but well worth the load time. This photographer was shooting from between corners 4 and 5 at VIR. Real nice guy too. (This is from a NICE digital camera, with an even NICER lens!) "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:23:32 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 15:28:46 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: Rust proofing a gas tank? Thanks Carl, I discovered the POR-15 website late yesterday and ordered their Motorcycle cleaning and sealing kit for $ 30.00 shipped. I should be tank sealing by the weekend. Cheers, George (also in Bethesda) George M Cole Technology Consultant Boise Technology 301-523-4161 FAX 1-888-240-3154 >>> "Custer, Carl" 10/03/01 04:18PM >>> George Cole questioned, "Is there a local shop that carries some sort of rust treatment stuff for gas tanks? The archives mentioned a product called Kreme? Who has this stuff? I just picked up a tank from a junk yard and it's a little rusty on the inside." Kreme is just that "Kreme" Some swear by it, more swear at it. Try POR-15 http://www.por-15.com/ Kit is $50 and can't be beat. Just be sure the cleaned tank is dry. Strosniders has the rubber stoppers If you're looking for something cheaper -- with a caveat: I've not tried it but from SabMag: Subject: Tank-derust Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:09:29 -0800 From: "W. Jason Grennell" Subject: Re: Por15 or alternative...Rusteco If you feel brave, the solution is simple. Mosey down to the hardware store, pool/spa section, $5 should net you a container of sodium carbonate, its a pH increaser, mild alkali. Mix a little with water, couple tablespoons per gallon. Air out your gas tank, plug all the holes but for the filler neck. fill the tank with the solution, take your battery charger or even a battery, (-) lead to the tank and the (+) lead to an electrode suspended in the solution. I used a 5/16 x 2 inch bolt as the electrode. This process has no effect on steel, only rust, it converts Fe2O3 to Fe3O4, orange rust to black oxide, loose rust and crud will collect on the electrode, wash it off now and again, every few hours worked for me. When you're done, rinse and dry the tank out, the orange rust will be hard black deposits that are tight to the steel. I did this twice, 15 hours each time as the tank was really rusty. The remaining deposits will inhibit further rust and if you keep the tank full, it should be just fine as is. I also collected several tablespoons worth of crud off of the electrode cleanings. As this process does not harm steel, you can't let it run too long. -Jason Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 18:53:35 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 18:53:38 -0400 To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR At 04:20 PM 10/3/01, Sean Jordan wrote: >http://slim.achieversusa.com/ryan/bostrom_turn4.jpg > >http://slim.achieversusa.com/ryan/xIMG_7060.jpg > >These are big, but well worth the load time. This photographer was >shooting from between corners 4 and 5 at VIR. Real nice guy too. (This is >from a NICE digital camera, with an even NICER lens!) Now come on, don't tease -- what was he using? And how did he get that high angle on the Duhamel shot? 8;) Thanks -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 19:00:20 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 19:00:25 -0400 To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Fwd: Re: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR >>.... (This is from a NICE digital camera, with an even NICER lens!) > >Now come on, don't tease -- what was he using? And how did he get that >high angle on the Duhamel shot? 8;) From his Web site, I'm guessing the Olympus E-10? -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 19:50:19 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:49:41 -0400 Cedric wrote: I have to add that the entire operation (save possibly the repair shop) is infused with the philosophy of extracting the maximum return from their customers and honesty, decency and appreciation for motorcycling are all casualties in their quest. People - "save the repair shop" should be the moto ! The only reason they don't take part in the above philosophy is that they're too lost figuring which parts go where...or on which bike... Niv _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 20:55:55 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:55:41 -0400 To: "DCCycles" From: Jeff Steele Subject: Heyser Cycle Center I'd like to publicly commend Heyser Cycle Center in Laurel for the service they provided me this evening. After work, I stopped at an Amoco to put air in my front tire which was a little low. The compressor was broken and instead of filling my tire with air, it just let what air was in the tire escape. I didn't realize how much air I had lost and decided to ride to the nearest station. As soon as I got started I saw how flat my tire was and pulled into Heyser to see if I could use their compressor. Ted, the Assistant Service Manager was happy to assist, but found that my inner tube had slipped below the rim. The only way to fix it was to remove the front wheel and given that it was after 6, all the technicians were finished for the day. However, Bobby -- one of the techs who had stopped to see what was going on -- volunteered to stay and repair it for me. Here was a guy who was headed out the door for the day and without anyone asking, offered to stay and help me out! I should say here that I ride a Harley-Davidson, not one of the Hondas, Kawasakis, or Yamahas that Heyser sells. They had no particular reason to do me any favors, so I was really impressed by their willingness to go beyond the call of duty to help. If this is how they treat total strangers, I can only imagine the level of service they provide their loyal customers. I would guess that most of you on this list probably know that Heyser provides great service, but for those of you who don't, I highly recommend them. -- Jeff -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 08:57:32 2001 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:03:21 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda To: Sean Jordan CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: NESBA track days and Coleman Powersport. I might go to NESBA track day at VIR for just Saturday if there's a spot still available (little too late maybe) and if I can rent a pick-up truck by then.... -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda3@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Hawk GT Sean Jordan wrote: > > Regarding Coleman....STAY AWAY! 'Nuff said there, next subject. > > Anybody doing the NESBA track days at VIR this weekend? Thinking about > joining and heading down there for the weekend. Thanks! > > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 09:18:47 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: Natasha Louis , dc-cycles@XXXXXX I see that they have not changed in ten years. My wife went in there ten years ago. She had been riding an EX500 and went in looking at 600's. The salesman immediately told her that the ZX6 was too big for her, she needed the 250. I went in there 2 years ago looking for either a VTR or TLS. I spent 20 minutes sitting on the two of them. No salesman bothered to get off his seat to offer assistance. Conversely, Shenandoah Honda has sold my last two bikes to me at a good price. They tossed in free accessories, give me 20% off everything else I buy from them. I went in there the other day to look at ATV's. The salesman saw me and asked how my SuperHawk was working out. I like a guy who remembers who you are. --- Natasha Louis wrote: > I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went > in there last year to buy > an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was > stupid. The idiot had > the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a > Ninja 250 instead. This > dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling > skills. They will never > get a penny from me. > > Natasha > > > >From: Chris Weaver > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide > >Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Uh oh... Here we go. > > > >As virtually everyone will tell you on this list, > STAY > >FAR FAR AWAY FROM POWERRIDE. They are well known > among > >pretty much anyone who's dealt with them as a > rip-off > >joint. The bikes are overpriced, the salespeople > are > >liars, the management wants their staff to screw > you, > >the parts department puts a HUUUGE markup on parts, > >and the accessories department is staffed with > >clueless morons. > > > >Please please please do not let your friend buy > from > >them. Contact Loudoun Motorsports, Manassas > >Honda/Kawasaki, or pretty much any other Honda > dealer > >for a better experience. No shop around here is > that > >great, but they're ALL better than > Powerride/Coleman. > > > >Chris > > > >--- Lori Wilson wrote: > > > Hey > > > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > > > have a question . A friend > > > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > > > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > > > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > > > good/bad/indifferent?? > > > Thanks > > > Lori > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > >http://phone.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 09:37:25 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 06:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: NESBA track days at VIR To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX After having been treated to 8 sessions of 20 minutes each at Summit yesturday curtecy of Rodger Lyle, I dare say other options pale. But I might do a Nesba event just to get a look at the track. If it's track time you want, it might make a bit of sense to do a normal track day or two then sign up and take the MARRC school and get your racing license and take up opportunities like this. $150 per day (he does 3 a year and attendance can be VERY light like yesturday) and a CCS license is $100 a year. You figure out NESBA's costs and you'll be bleeding money and you don't get to have near as much fun. But the pos side of NESBA is that you get to visit other nearby tracks. I don't know if I improved my lap times by a whole lot (no timer) but I got a lot more comfortable on the GS and worked on my braking, cornering speed, and general confidence. I still have to learn to relax and put the weight down in the seat when cornering. If nothing else I improved remarkably thru turns 6 (still weak) and 10 which I can take in 5th gear with very small throttle roll-off prior. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 09:51:26 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 06:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX anyone here tape the pieces? I missed them all. *sob* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 09:53:07 2001 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:50:27 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide This thread is especially frustrating for me because Coleman is so close to my house. It'd be so easy to get service there (I could walk home), if only. They did a carb clean-up and tracked down a small fuel leak for me on a Virago 750 about 5 years ago; no real problems. They've expanded *a lot* since then; the huge storage building on the back of the place used to be a mud back lot. Either their business model is working, or there's a whole lot more money to be made in personal watercraft than I thought. My last contact there was to get my near-new FLH inspected. The guy in receiving insisted that my HD-installed display plate with the existing inspection sticker was illegal, and they had to put the sticker on the fork. So, I went to the gas station, got my inspection, and got the sticker where I wanted it. /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:05:15 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:05:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Track bike advice To: dccyles After seeing me drop my SV at the Battletrax competition, Elizabeth has given her blessing to me getting an inexpensive track bike. Now for the big question what should I get? I'd like to keep the cost under $1500, especially since I've got a YSR project bike that will have several hundred poured into it over the winter. So far what I have seen that fits in this range are: * An RZ350 for $900 that needs suspension and brake work, engine was just rebuilt. * A race prepped GS500 for $1000 that has a works racing shock installed. * A running EX500 for $400 (need to go to Atlanta to pick up) If I expand my price range a little, I could probably pick up an FZR400. Of course the other expensive option is to get a new street bike and turn my SV650 into a track bike. However I still owe money on the bike, so I am reluctant to put it too much in harms way. Plus it is such a great street bike. ===== Keith Doing my best to be Buckeroo Banzai (Rock musician, motorcycle racer, high-tech professional) Lil Red SV01 YSR 50 (The new addition) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:07:10 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 10:13:34 -0400 From: Thomas Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Inspection sticker plates (was: another coleman thread) I know this has come up on the list before.... But it is illegal... And any inspector who puts a sticker on one of those plates can be fined by the state, and lose his license. > receiving insisted that my HD-installed display plate with the existing > inspection sticker was illegal, and they had to put the stickerM-* From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:16:51 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:16:50 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: finding a dealer and bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I won't rehash Coleman or Poserride. But my overwhelming vote goes to Shenandoah Honda in Winchester. I'll have to price compare MFI vs them on parts I guess but I'm fairly certain MFI will loose handily. Manassas Honda sure does. Not only is their book price lower than anybody else around here but they'll give you a 15% discount just for asking. Pity they don't carry Suzuki or else I'd be happy with 1-stop shopping for most of my bike needs. I've been using Valley Cycle (also Winchester) till now but I'll probably switch to Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg) for that after I discuss race sponsorship terms with them. Or a contact in Philly who will give me 20% over cost for anything and everything I want. heh. Why an F4i? How much experience does this person have? Other list favorites are Romney Cycle (in Romney WV) and it's sister store that carries Honda's. Can't remember it's name at the moment. Bit of a hike for service, however. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:29:28 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:29:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Rob Winters wrote: > Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:50:27 -0400 > From: Rob Winters > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide > > This thread is especially frustrating for me because Coleman is so close to > my house. It'd be so easy to get service there (I could walk home), if only. It might not be quite as close, but, Crossroads cycle isn't /that/ far, if you're near Coleman. They have my business. The place looks a bit crusty, but they're good people who know what they're doing. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:47:07 2001 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:51:58 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: Track bike advice Keith, I am not sure you have seen this, but roadacing world always has race/track bike for sale. There will probably be some great deals later into the Fall. http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/monthlyupdates/classifieds.html >From your choices below the GS500 seems like the best bike. Regards, George Cole 01 FZ1 99 R6 92 Zeyphr (rusty fuel tank) >>> Keith Lamond 10/04/01 10:05AM >>> After seeing me drop my SV at the Battletrax competition, Elizabeth has given her blessing to me getting an inexpensive track bike. Now for the big question what should I get? I'd like to keep the cost under $1500, especially since I've got a YSR project bike that will have several hundred poured into it over the winter. So far what I have seen that fits in this range are: * An RZ350 for $900 that needs suspension and brake work, engine was just rebuilt. * A race prepped GS500 for $1000 that has a works racing shock installed. * A running EX500 for $400 (need to go to Atlanta to pick up) If I expand my price range a little, I could probably pick up an FZR400. Of course the other expensive option is to get a new street bike and turn my SV650 into a track bike. However I still owe money on the bike, so I am reluctant to put it too much in harms way. Plus it is such a great street bike. ===== Keith Doing my best to be Buckeroo Banzai (Rock musician, motorcycle racer, high-tech professional) Lil Red SV01 YSR 50 (The new addition) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:56:11 2001 From: "Wood, Sally" To: "'wilsonl@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:49:57 -0400 Lori, Friends don't let friends buy from Coleman. Sally '01 YZF600R Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 11:26:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks Lor