From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 08:13:29 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 05:13:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: nail in tire To: ulrich@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: uboser@XXXXXX Where is it in downtown DC? I can bring my plug gun with mushroom plugs and plug it for you. I've had good luck with these, but of course, there's no guarantees. Let me know. Leon. --- Ulrich Boser wrote: > hello, > > i got a nail in my tire - its not bad. i drove from > sperryville to downtown dc and only went down from > abt > 260 to 240. i tried to patch it from the outside but > it is in a tread and didnt really work. the tire has > only abt 3,000 miles on it. any thoughts abt what to > do. > > i am guessing that all i am doing is complaning and > will have to get a new tire.... yes? > > thanks. > > ulrich > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 09:05:05 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 06:05:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: TSR to donate to the NY Times 9/11 Neediest Fund To: TSR Injury Fund *For Immediate Release* Due to the recent attacks on the World Trade Center Towers and the Pentagon, the TSR Injury Fund is going to donate all the proceeds from our 2001 contribution drive to the New York Times 9/11 Neediest Fund. More information about the fund can be found at http://prodpub.wavesys.com/cw/donations.asp?charity=neediest911 TSR understands that this drastic measure is not what we have advertised throughout the course of our contribution drive, and are willing to offer refunds to anyone, provided they return their original ticket stub. We feel that at this time and magnitude of need, that this is the correct course of action to take. Please note that the items that have been donated to the Injury Fund will still be given away as the Raffle prizes, and the drawing date has not changed. It will still be held on Oct 28th, during the WERA GNF, at Road Atlanta in Braselton, GA, and winning ticket holders do not need to be present. A listing of these prizes is available on the TSR website at http://www.tightsqueezeracing.org/raffle.htm. In addition to those listed on the website, we would also like to recognize the following pledges that we received at the WERA VIR National event: Thermosman Suspensions (http://www.thermosman.com/) -One Penske 8900 Rear shock, $1300 Team INA -One Poulan 2375LE, 18-inch, Gas Chain Saw, $150 TSR will continue accepting donations for the 9/11 Fund until the end of the 2001, then we will resume our normal operations for 2002. Sincerely, Tight Squeeze Racing __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 09:12:48 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: HD Brand Rain suit FS To: DCC The BSA has been sold, and my friend Tim now needs someone to buy a Harley Rain Suit (Large), worn twice. Contact Tim at geigerc@XXXXXX Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 10:45:06 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 10:44:50 -0400 From: wormjtn@XXXXXX (Worm) To: Robert.Verde@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, c-Robert.Verde@XXXXXX Subject: I am interested in the Laser 4-1 exhaust for the 83 Interceptor. There was a post on the SABMAG list that someone was selling a 4to1 Laser exhaust. If someone could please email me some info about it. Price, shipping, apperance, etc.. Thank you Jeremy -- `82 V45 Sabre "candy" `83 V45 Ceptor Nothing is certain until it happens! Ride safe. __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 10:47:10 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 10:45:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" To: dccycles Subject: VIR this weekend. Jay and I headed down to VIR this past weekend. We were signed up for the South Course with Nesba. I really enjoyed the course. A little more hilly than Summit and a whole lot smoother. The drive down took about 5.5 hours, the traffic on 495 and 95 did not help. The drive home clocked in at about 5 hours. I rode the FZR 600 in the morning and managed to kill the clutch by the afternoon. I switched over the the FZR 750 and managed to still have a good time. I went over to the North Course on Sunday to look for DC Cycles folks. Didn't see anyone but still had a good time looking around and checking out the pits. I would love to go back and run the North course this weekend with Nesba but I've got a wedding to go to. Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 10:57:46 2001 From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Subject: Congrats to Keener Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:58:57 -0400 Congratulations are in order for "minied(a little) -sasquatch" after his 5th place finish in Pro Thunder at VIR! Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 11:32:04 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 11:31:43 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener To: Cc: Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) Scooter In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:05:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Danny Thompson" writes: > Congratulations are in order for "minied(a little) -sasquatch" after his 5th > place finish in Pro Thunder at VIR! > Danny Thompson > Liberty High School Technology Education > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 9/18/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 11:42:35 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:42:21 EDT Subject: Fwd: Congrats to Keener To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --part1_41.11a47261.28e9e8dd_boundary --part1_41.11a47261.28e9e8dd_boundary From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Full-name: SKeener2 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:42:06 EDT Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/1/01 11:40:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ScooterFZR@XXXXXX writes: > Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what > your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) Thanks. (Think big fat guy on itty bitty SV) :-) Keener --part1_41.11a47261.28e9e8dd_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:02:44 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 12:02:18 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Fwd: Congrats to Keener To: Cc: Not a big help there Keener. Leathers make everyone look thin. LOL Or should that be fat. Just think how big cows look. ;-) In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:46:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SKeener2@XXXXXX writes: > > Forwarded Message:-------------------- > Subj: Re: Congrats to Keener > Date Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:42:06 EDT > From: SKeener2@XXXXXX > To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > > > In a message dated 10/1/01 11:40:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > ScooterFZR@XXXXXX writes: > > > Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what > > your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) > > Thanks. (Think big fat guy on itty bitty SV) :-) > > Keener From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:08:43 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:08:32 EDT Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/1/01 12:02:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ScooterFZR writes: > Not a big help there Keener. Leathers make everyone look thin. LOL Or > should that be fat. Just think how big cows look. ;-) Mooooooooooooooooooooooooo :-)) From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:40:59 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 12:40:45 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: VIR Weekend To: Well folks, Had a nice time at VIR this weekend. Rode down with Pual Wilson and Bruce Brownlee. Could have lived without all the 15-20mph winds at the track though. Can you say "windburn." Checked out the races from a few different vantage points. I won't tell who won any of the races, mainly because I don't know. ;-) I don't follow them that closely to tell you who they are by their number. Anyway, spotted Todd Peer, Hugh Caldwell, Sean Jordan, Brian Roach & Laura Granato (yes, they were there contrary to popular belief. ;-) ) Didn't hang around them too long because of that "big dick" they were hanging out with. You shouldn't do that to the racers. I'll let them explain that one for those of you who didn't find them. hehe I believe Linda Tanner was also spotted. I'm sure there were more of the DC Cyclists in attendance but, that's all I found/remember. Took a roll of pics and I'll see about posting the good ones after I get them developed. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:52:21 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 09:52:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: What's with PowerRide? To: DC-Cycles Over the weekend I finally got a chance to catch up on the shows I videotaped over last week. While watching the new "Star Trek: Enterprise" on UPN (Wed, 8-10 pm) there was a commercial for PowerRide (formerly, and probably forever known as Colemans). They were advertising a special sale from last April. Are they too cheap to even update their own commercials? Sheesh. Glad to hear folks had a good time at the races. Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Alexandria, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: (NBCi folded... relocating web page soon!!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 12:59:01 2001 From: "Kevin Bechtel" To: Subject: Races at VIR Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:55:58 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C14A78.6A557180 For those who didn't get to go, the 600 supersport and formula extreme = races will be shown on speedvision on Tuesday night at 9:00 and 10:00 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C14A78.6A557180
For those who didn't get to go, the 600 = supersport=20 and formula extreme races will be shown on speedvision on Tuesday night = at 9:00=20 and 10:00
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C14A78.6A557180-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 13:08:21 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:08:00 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: What's with PowerRide? To: Cc: Yeah, I noticed that too. They've been running that same commecial since May. Scooter In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 1:00:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Louis F. Caplan" writes: > Over the weekend I finally got a chance to catch up on the shows I videotaped > over last week. While watching the new "Star Trek: Enterprise" on UPN (Wed, > 8-10 pm) there was a commercial for PowerRide (formerly, and probably forever > known as Colemans). They were advertising a special sale from last April. Are > they too cheap to even update their own commercials? Sheesh. > > Glad to hear folks had a good time at the races. > > Louis > > > ===== > "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours > Alexandria, VA > Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ > > Home Page: (NBCi folded... relocating web page soon!!) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 13:09:55 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:09:31 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: What's with PowerRide? To: Cc: Oops....sorry. I meant "since MARCH." It's Monday. Need I say more. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 1:08:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ScooterFZR writes: > Yeah, I noticed that too. They've been running that same commecial since May. > > Scooter > > In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 1:00:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Louis F. Caplan" writes: > > > Over the weekend I finally got a chance to catch up on the shows I videotaped > > over last week. While watching the new "Star Trek: Enterprise" on UPN (Wed, > > 8-10 pm) there was a commercial for PowerRide (formerly, and probably forever > > known as Colemans). They were advertising a special sale from last April. Are > > they too cheap to even update their own commercials? Sheesh. > > > > Glad to hear folks had a good time at the races. > > > > Louis > > > > > > ===== > > "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours > > Alexandria, VA > > Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ > > > > Home Page: (NBCi folded... relocating web page soon!!) > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > > http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 13:16:38 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 13:16:26 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: VIR Weekend To: Forgot to mention, three bikes were stolen from the hotel parking lot Saturday night. Luckily, mine wasn't one of them. The only one I know of for sure was a tricked out R6. The guy had done a LOT of work to it. I guess that's why it got taken. Too pretty of an eye candy to pass up. Don't know what the other two were. At least they had someone with them in a truck hauling all their stuff so, they had a ride home. The funny thing is, they had all locked their bikes together Friday night but, didn't on Saturday. I guess they thought that nothing would happen. Anyway, lock those bikes up folks when you travel. Thieves prefer the easiest pickings. Scooter In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:47:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ScooterFZR@XXXXXX writes: > Well folks, > > Had a nice time at VIR this weekend. Rode down with Pual Wilson and Bruce Brownlee. Could have lived without all the 15-20mph winds at the track though. Can you say "windburn." Checked out the races from a few different vantage points. I won't tell who won any of the races, mainly because I don't know. ;-) I don't follow them that closely to tell you who they are by their number. > > Anyway, spotted Todd Peer, Hugh Caldwell, Sean Jordan, Brian Roach & Laura Granato (yes, they were there contrary to popular belief. ;-) ) Didn't hang around them too long because of that "big dick" they were hanging out with. You shouldn't do that to the racers. I'll let them explain that one for those of you who didn't find them. hehe I believe Linda Tanner was also spotted. I'm sure there were more of the DC Cyclists in attendance but, that's all I found/remember. > > Took a roll of pics and I'll see about posting the good ones after I get them developed. > > Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 14:03:04 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:03:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: VIR Weekend (warning: spoiler) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I was there this weekend too. Didn't see Scooter or the Goddards, but I did run into Brian & Laura and Hugh Caldwell. Had a great time watching at the Roller Coaster (corkscrew, spiral, whatever) with B&L and wandering around the pits. After the superbike race, I went down and watched the trophy presentation. Nicky Hayden had a smile on his face a mile wide and was being mobbed by the fans. Kurtis Roberts, as usual, was scowling and looked like he'd rather be anywhere but there. The fans clearly agreed - he seems highly disliked. It was nice to see all the various gestures of support for the terrorist victims. Mladin wore an all-black helmet (hey, I now have a racer-rep design!). Other riders wore arm bands and put US flags on their helmets, leathers and fairings. One racer (750SS GSXR) put a one-off US flag paint scheme on his bike - VERY cool looking and I might try to do that with my VTR. Lots of folks got autographs on various things. One guy brought an RC51 into the pits that had been painted (not just decaled) exactly like the Castrol Honda WSB bike of Colin Edwards, including everything down to the "Texas Tornado" insignia next to the windshield. He got DuHamel and Hayden to sign the tank. (I guess it's hard to get a hold of Edwards here in the US.) I had a great time and would do it again in a heartbeat. I'll ride down rather than drive next time, even though the riding temperatures must have been pretty chilly at night and in the mornings. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000 YSR50 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! 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Melanie --part1_15d.1d17e5b.28ea13fd_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 15:05:39 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 15:03:26 -0400 To: DC-Cycles From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: What's with PowerRide? At 09:52 AM 10/1/2001 -0700, Louis F. Caplan wrote: >Over the weekend I finally got a chance to catch up on the shows I videotaped >over last week. While watching the new "Star Trek: Enterprise" on UPN (Wed, >8-10 pm) there was a commercial for PowerRide (formerly, and probably forever >known as Colemans). I guess I lost focus on the commercials after the nude Vulcan oil massage scene. :-) /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 15:06:41 2001 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 12:06:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Burrow Subject: Re: What's with PowerRide? To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, nighthawk700@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I saw that too. I thought that there might be some event coming up and the idiots over there forgot to change the date. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 16:00:33 2001 From: Han Park To: DC-Cycles Subject: VIR Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 15:55:20 -0400 I corner worked at VIR this past weekend and it was a blast. The only real drawback is that you don't have much time during the day to wander around because you're basically at one corner the whole day; however, you are definitely part of the race. I got to pick up Jamie Hacking's bike, clean up Mat Mladin's burn out (if you're lucky you get to put out Mat's burning bike right Sean?), watch Keener get 5th in Pro Thunder, "guide" racers back onto the track, snap some great pictures of turn 7 and 3, and watch the race from a really unique vantage point. I'm definitely going back next year! han From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 17:24:38 2001 From: "Paul Wilson" To: Cc: "dc-cycles list" Subject: VIR comments was Re: Congrats to Keener Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 17:25:42 -0400 Yes, unless my eyesight is failing me, the list of Buell Pro Thunder entrants was not in the program, so I was clueless as to who was who. I had a blast at VIR. Highly recommended. Aside from Scooter and Bruce I didn't run into any other DC folk. I overnighted in Raleigh and rode up for the day with some NC riding buddies. We roved around a lot of Saturday during the practice and qualifying heats to get a sense of the track layout and the good spots to watch and checked out the paddock area. We tended to stay put on Sunday and we got there too late to stake out a good viewing spot for turn 14, so we went to turn 4 for the 600 Supersport and staked out a good spot on the fence at turn 17 for the Superbikes. You can probably see as much of the track there as from any single vantage point, with the long downhill and then the final turn before they pour in on into the straightaway. Turn 4 is nice too since you can see the riders zoom down the straightaway in the distance, hear them slow for turn 1 and then watch them set up for 4 and 5, a left hand, right hand in quick succession. I watched the last race of the day from the deck of the concessions area. Having ridden a track school on the north course, I had some clue what the track looks like from the riders perspective, albeit at slightly lower speeds. ;) Gorgeous weather too and nice rides down and back. It was a little nippy coming back on 360 and 95; had to break out the electric gear for the first time this season last night. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: > Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) > > Scooter > > In a message dated Mon, 1 Oct 2001 11:05:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "Danny Thompson" writes: > > > Congratulations are in order for "minied(a little) -sasquatch" after his 5th > > place finish in Pro Thunder at VIR! > > Danny Thompson From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 20:09:19 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 19:49:26 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bruce Brownlee Subject: Re: Races at VIR misc notes.... replays on Speedvision according to my satellite guide: Superbikes - 12:00PM noon (Tues) Supersport - 9:00 PM(Tues) Formula Extreme - 10:00PM (Tues) the 3 bikes stolen were 2 R6's and a Blackbird. these guys knew what they were going for, but they left a harley worth more than any of em... let the chips fall where they may on that one... most likely a bunch of pussies who couldnt lift, let alone ride, a harley.... :-) it was cold... VIR is a nice place. long ways to go before it becomes 'spectator' friendly, but traffic was nothing to worry about, we were on 58 headed north in 20 minutes. IMO, needs better grandstands for viewing, but for pure asthetics, it was typical southern VA.....the most beautiful place on earth.... it was cold coming home (as well as at the track, but at least i didnt need the electrics.....).... great trophys, but someone needs to point out the race was run in Halifax county.... still a bit of a trip from Franklin county, which everyone knows is the moonshine capital of the US.... it was cold.... add to the list of 'spotted people' (if they are on this list) Dillon Dickson and Doug Teague.... From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 21:16:56 2001 From: LakeSueE@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:16:42 EDT Subject: Re: Insurance Question -- THEFT To: peter.wimer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Try it when the motorcycle is your only "car" and you have nothing else to insure and you live in DC and you think Geico is charging you too much....it sucks....basically Geico is the only one who will insure me. From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 21:19:54 2001 From: laura granato To: Bruce Brownlee , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Races at VIR Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 21:19:40 -0400 O > > VIR is a nice place. long ways to go before it becomes 'spectator' > friendly, what do you mean? I'm curious.... >IMO, needs better grandstands for viewing, the reason they don't have grandstands is just because of what you said...to keep it beautiful. they wanted beautiful rolling hills and grass where spectators can come throw out a blanket and enjoy racing. a great idea IMHO. LAG From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 21:59:40 2001 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 22:04:27 -0400 From: Paul Wilson To: laura granato CC: Bruce Brownlee , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Races at VIR laura granato wrote: > > O > > > > VIR is a nice place. long ways to go before it becomes 'spectator' > > friendly, > > what do you mean? I'm curious.... > > >IMO, needs better grandstands for viewing, > > the reason they don't have grandstands is just because of what you said...to > keep it beautiful. they wanted beautiful rolling hills and grass where > spectators can come throw out a blanket and enjoy racing. a great idea IMHO. > > LAG I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. After all this is the first time they've had a big draw motorcycle event there and I expect the next one will be better, with more vendors and manufacturers displays, etc. VIR was just resurrected as a venue in the past few years and they've come a long way. I imagine some vendors stayed away because they didn't know what kind of crowds VIR would draw. I found it well organized, especially traffic control. Event staff was everywhere. The food, while nothing to write home about, was on a par with similar events with a captive audience. It could be better, though in terms of variety and quality. It really is in the middle of nowhere and running out during the day is not a viable option. Bring your own is definitely preferred. I wouldn't even hazard a head count, but the grounds are so huge it can easily handle large crowds without it seeming crowded. The motorcycle parking was first rate, near the paddock and paved in asphalt! I was prepared to park in a field somewhere. After seeing the setup I'm much less reticent about camping the next time. Paul in DC 95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 1 22:53:48 2001 From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: VIR weekend.... Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2001 22:54:22 -0400 Hey, I too attended VIR as a worker, it was great. I saw a load of my old friends from my Yahoo! list (Superbikes Chat), but few DC-Cycles peeps 'cept for those of us working. Thursday was absolutely fantastic riding down via the BRP. But a tad cold. I left my house here in MD at about 6 a.m., made it to Front Royal by 7:50 and it had warmed up to 52. Brrr. Down 340 to Waynesboro and the temps were just great for the 180 mile ride down to Meadows of Dan (the intersection of the BRP and Rt. 58). About 1.5 hours later I was at my hotel in Danville (The Innkeeper North). Got my creds at the track that evening, went back to the hotel parking lot and began cleaning all the oil that my carb managed to barf all over the side of my 'Glide coming out of Peaks of Otter. Don't know what caused that, but it seems to be just that one-time deal, so 'Oh Well'. Friday I got hosed by Tom who was taking corner working assignments. He signed all the decrepit "AMA (ir)regulars" up first, so they got the cool corners and I had to work 5. Crappy view, not a lot to do but hey, it beat working at my real job. Saturday was better. I got a better assignment (turn 3) and got to see Hacking smack the Armco (How the **** did the AMA not have air fence there, but had it everywhere the **** else for the weekend? Unreal), but otherwise it was a quiet day. Oops, oh yeah, I helped Chandler push his broken down ZX-7RR to the pits when he peter'd out just before the entrance to 4. Sunday was both the best and worst day. I got assigned to Capt. 16 (dun-dun-DUHHHHH!! Captain Koontz!) because I followed Tom around like a puppy until he whipped out the sign up sheet ('scuse me while I whip this out) and I made him sign me up for 16. Great place to watch and work. Lessee - Mladin catches fire in morning practice after what I felt was a relatively uneventful low-side (if there is such a thing). The money bet is that had he not shut the bike down, there would have been no spark to start his bike afire, but who knows for real, all the evidence went up in really stinky carbon fiber smoke. So anyway, I dispatched my bee-yotch Sean Jordan from the station to go and put the flames out with those dog s**t worthless fire extinguishers they gave us. Job well done, young buck. Look for the goofy pale guy striking a pose on camera when SV shows the race again. Funniest line from that experience was the SV camera man calling back to the pits on his radio "It's really not that bad, I'd say with a new tank and sub section he could get it back up and running." Bwahh-ha ha ha! Sean wondered if he had fallen too, like maybe out of the cherry picker, because that bike is now a $250,000 paper weight. Going out trackside for the parade laps all afternoon was hilarious. We're standing - no lie - maybe 5 feet from the apex/curbing as these guys roll by us at about anywhere from 40-65 MPH. Sean was trying to convince himself the whole time as to whether or not he should hang his hand out for a high five. 'Til Mladin (I think) almost ripped is arm off as he went by at about 60 MPH headed into 17 on his celebratory lap. That was a riot. Also, Terry Reese (MARRC corner worker and bad ass Ninja in general) told Sean to "drop the yellow", meaning stop waving the flag. Sean dropped it at his feet immediately. Who the hell's gonna argue with Terry, he's about 6'6"/290. I almost filled my drawers laughing at him. Yeah, the day was great. But me in my infinite stupidity neglected to factor in to my trip the ride home from the track. See, it was cold. Real cold. Friggin' cold. And I was on two wheels. Bad move, genius. I took Rt. 58 west to Martinsville, then 220 North (got stuck in NASCAR or whatever traffic as they all exited the track there, that took forever) to Roanoke, then 81 north to Winchester to Fredneck to home. It was 52 degrees at 7:50 as I rolled past the bank sign along 581 there (and that's in the city, where I'll say it was a good 3-5 degrees warmer from all the concrete "city heat"!), and the temps were dropping fast. By the time I got to JMU, I was in tears. It was brutal. Must have been low- to mid-40s along 81 'til Winchester. I wasn't prepared at all. I was wearing leathers top to bottom, but still stopped often to add more clothes. Eventually my saddle bags were nearly empty because I was wearing almost everything I brought down with me. Anyway, I left the track at about 5:45, made Roanoke before 8:00 (coulda done better without the NASCRAP traffic), Winchester by 11:15 or so, Frederick by about 12:30 and home here by 1:10. So cold I was completely out of my mind. I woke up and my skin was still cold to the touch. Aside from the last 7.5 hours of the weekend, I had a blast. Can't wait to do it again. Next time I'd like 1) More time to wander about and explore 2) To see more people I know and just hang out 3) Better food for the corner workers! God! Crappy sandwiches and a coke? C'mon! I'd work a MARRC event for free just for the better food (and more food and more meals). More later when the spirit moves me. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard (~ 7,800 miles and counting) 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project (For Sale? I don't know. I guess) Will (corner) work for food From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 08:30:51 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Races at VIR Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 08:28:11 -0400 Well, I did camp (under the big tree - where was everyone?) and I have a coupla complaints about VIR. First and foremost - why don't they tell you they don't have a PA systems except in the paddock area and you need a frickin' FM radio to know what's going on?????? That reeeeeaaaaalllly annoyed me. Secondly - nice shower facilities, if you like cold showers. I'll go again, but I'll be better prepared. LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 08:59:28 2001 From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Subject: Re: Races at VIR Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:00:44 -0400 Waaaaaaa! VIR is about as nice as they come. If you get to the showers before others they will be hot (just like at home), if you find the PA, you will be able to hear (just like any other track), the broadcast on the radio is a big plus that you DON'T find most places. Sorry Linda, I'm in a grumpy mood this morning and tired of so much whining. We (in general) have it so good. Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:28 AM Subject: RE: Races at VIR > Well, I did camp (under the big tree - where was everyone?) and I have a > coupla complaints about VIR. > > First and foremost - why don't they tell you they don't have a PA systems > except in the paddock area and you need a frickin' FM radio to know what's > going on?????? That reeeeeaaaaalllly annoyed me. > > Secondly - nice shower facilities, if you like cold showers. > > I'll go again, but I'll be better prepared. > > LindaT. > Custom TankBags > Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) > 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy > 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) > 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing > http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/01 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 10:06:34 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 07:06:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: More VIR Impressions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I thought the facilities at VIR were really good. (I didn't camp though) The shower facilities could stand to be better from what I've seen, but as far as the professionalism of the facility and its staff I couldn't have been happier. They clearly put in a huge effort to get ready for the event and be seen as a high-class racing venue. The track was in great shape (as it should be for its age), the event staff were efficient and organized, and the weekend seemed to run very smoothly from one event to the next without troublesome delays or other snafus. I'd be suprised if VIR doesn't get another date from the AMA on the schedule for 2002. They deserve it. I'd even go so far as to say that if they improve the meal services, shower facilities and add buildings, that they could bag a date from WSB or GP at some time in the future. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 10:33:05 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:28:23 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Races at VIR On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, laura granato wrote: > O > > > > VIR is a nice place. long ways to go before it becomes 'spectator' > > friendly, > > what do you mean? I'm curious.... > In my opinion they should cut down a lot of the trees to allow better sight lines for the spectators. Hugh From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 11:00:58 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:00:30 EDT Subject: Re: Races at VIR To: ljtanner@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > Well, I did camp (under the big tree - where was everyone?) and I have a > coupla complaints about VIR. String her up....heretic!!! > First and foremost - why don't they tell you they don't have a PA systems > except in the paddock area and you need a frickin' FM radio to know what's > going on?????? That reeeeeaaaaalllly annoyed me. It's on a sign on the way into the paddock. It even tells you the station number to turn to. > Secondly - nice shower facilities, if you like cold showers. Normal at a track. Take it at odd times and you will be fine. > I'll go again, but I'll be better prepared. Hotels work MUCH better. From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 11:18:25 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:16:07 EDT Subject: Re: Races at VIR To: hcaldwell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/2/01 10:33:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hcaldwell@XXXXXX writes: > In my opinion they should cut down a lot of the trees > to allow better sight lines for the spectators. They already have. Each time I go back the track has improved significantly. Keener From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 11:34:29 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Races at VIR Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:31:06 -0400 Having the notification on a sign to the paddock does me no good if I've ridden in on a bike not so equipped. It should be on the ticket and the website. Give is first-timers a chance to enjoy the races. Hotels work better but they are MUCH more expensive. Us unemployed folks have to go the cheapest route. And congrats on your finish. My friend Paul was also in that race and finished 9th. LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner SKeener2@XXXXXX said about the lack of PA: It's on a sign on the way into the paddock. It even tells you the station number to turn to. > Secondly - nice shower facilities, if you like cold showers. Normal at a track. Take it at odd times and you will be fine. > I'll go again, but I'll be better prepared. Hotels work MUCH better. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 11:45:25 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:45:08 EDT Subject: Re: Races at VIR To: ljtanner@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > Having the notification on a sign to the paddock does me no good if I've > ridden in on a bike not so equipped. It should be on the ticket and the > website. Give is first-timers a chance to enjoy the races. You mean you didn't see me hawking $2 radios for $20??? :-)) > Hotels work better but they are MUCH more expensive. Us unemployed folks > have to go the cheapest route. True. I learned a long time ago at racetracks....it's better to sleep away. More expensive....but you actually get to sleep. > And congrats on your finish. My friend Paul was also in that race and > finished 9th. Thanks. I'll take it and run like a bandito!! :) Keener From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 12:23:39 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 09:23:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric M. Winslow" Subject: Re: Insurance Question -- THEFT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Markel does bikes in DC. www.bike-line.com They've been good to me. --- LakeSueE@XXXXXX wrote: > Try it when the motorcycle is your only "car" and you have nothing > else to > insure and you live in DC and you think Geico is charging you too > much....it > sucks....basically Geico is the only one who will insure me. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 13:14:19 2001 From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: VIR Weekend Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 13:14:13 -0400 Hey DC guys and gals, I was at VIR cornerworking also, and I happened to be ideally placed to take some pics of Mat Mladin's get-off at turn 17 during the practice session. Here's the URL of the page I set up: http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2qpt3 John Kozyn 95 VFR D-mode _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 13:16:17 2001 From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 13:04:40 -0400 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX >Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what >your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) It was pretty easy to pick him out in a field of 12 or 13. He was wearing black leathers with the name "Keener" on the back. Kinda hard to miss. JK _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 13:33:07 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Mat Mladin's crash To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX a very recent dc-cycles post had a narritive and photos by one of the corner workers. In the commentary it made mention that Mat had braked hard (2 skid marks) after the rear had already started to slide. Was the hard braking a deliberate attempt to low-side the bike instead of entertaining a chance of a high-side? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:04:49 2001 From: SBave@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:04:38 EDT Subject: VIR cornerworking To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --part1_c9.165ed261.28eb5bb6_boundary jckozyn@XXXXXX writes: > I was at VIR cornerworking also, and I happened to be ideally placed to ta= ke=20 > some pics of Mat Mladin's get-off at turn 17 during the practice session.=20 >=20 =A0=A0I'm sure this is a stupid question but... If you were cornerworking weren't you supposed to be doing something else=20 besides taking pictures? But cool pictures they were... =A0:) Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_c9.165ed261.28eb5bb6_boundary jckozyn@XXXXXX write= s:


I was at VIR cornerworking=20= also, and I happened to be ideally placed to take=20
some pics of Mat Mladin's get-off at turn 17 during the practice session= .=20


=A0=A0I'm sure this is a stupid question but...
If you were cornerworking weren't you supposed to be doing something els= e besides taking pictures? But cool pictures they were... =A0:)

Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R --part1_c9.165ed261.28eb5bb6_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:05:55 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 11:05:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Garmin eMap To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I would like to thank the listmembers for their help with my choice of GPS. I purchased a Garmin eMap "deluxe" with 8mb card & MapSource MetroGuide CD. I played around with it on the trip to VIR and found it very useful. I'll probably spring for the 16mb card (or more?) eventually though as the 8mb card will only load one detailed MetroGuide area at any one time. If anyone has suggestions on how to best mount the unit, good internet resources or other helpful advice, I'd love to hear them. I've already visited Mike Troutman's site extensively, btw. Chris ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:26:35 2001 Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 14:27:17 -0700 To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Insurance Question -- THEFT **** At 10:05 AM 9/28/01 -0400, ROBERSON, Brian wrote: >>>> Insurance Question -- THEFT Recently a buddy of mine had his 98-99 F4 stolen. **** Sorry to hear this. **** He carried comprehensive with Allstate but not collision. He was rudely awakened when the insurance agent informed him that they would not cover the loss because 'theft' was a separate rider and he had not purchased it.. **** This does not sound right. The term "Comprehensive" normally includes theft. I've not worked for Allstate, so I cannot shed personal light on their practices, but the four insurance companies that I have worked for have rightly placed theft loss under comprehensive coverage, not under a separate endorsement or rider. Also, be weary of what an agent tell you. Agents really only sell and service the policy on the underwriting side, for a commission. Specifically agents do not decide what is covered or what is not covered. In fact 99% of the time the agent has nothing to do with the claim process. Some older muli-line captive agents use to have claim authority, but that is pretty rare these days. ***** Can someone shed some light on this.. Do most insurance companies make you pay for a separate 'theft' policy or rider? ***** Most do not. Sounds like you buddy needs to talk to the adjuster to get to the bottom of the issue. Harris Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:28:28 2001 From: "Wimer, Peter" To: "'Chris Weaver'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Garmin eMap Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:27:00 -0400 I mount mine using the Garmin Handlebar Mount. It works great and is pretty cheap, $5.98 + shipping. http://shop.garmin.com/accessory.jsp?sku=010%2D10204%2D00 Pete Wimer peter.wimer@XXXXXX what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail? -----Original Message----- From: Chris Weaver [mailto:chris_vtr@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:06 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Garmin eMap I would like to thank the listmembers for their help with my choice of GPS. I purchased a Garmin eMap "deluxe" with 8mb card & MapSource MetroGuide CD. I played around with it on the trip to VIR and found it very useful. I'll probably spring for the 16mb card (or more?) eventually though as the 8mb card will only load one detailed MetroGuide area at any one time. If anyone has suggestions on how to best mount the unit, good internet resources or other helpful advice, I'd love to hear them. I've already visited Mike Troutman's site extensively, btw. Chris ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 14:54:57 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 14:54:14 EDT Subject: Re: Congrats to Keener To: jckozyn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/2/01 1:17:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jckozyn@XXXXXX writes: > >Yes. Congratulations. We stuck around for the race but, didn't know what > >your number was so we didn't know who to root for. :-) > > It was pretty easy to pick him out in a field of 12 or 13. He was wearing > black leathers with the name "Keener" on the back. I didn't want to have to point it out. Not like I wore black leathers with my name in big white letters on it....really. :) > Kinda hard to miss. OK....next time I'll pick something more distinctive....really!!! From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 15:09:02 2001 Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 14:13:14 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: Rust proofing a gas tank? Hey all, Is there a local shop that carries some sort of rust treatment stuff for gas tanks? The archives mentioned a product called Kreme? Who has this stuff? I just picked up a tank from a junk yard and it's a little rusty on the inside. George Cole From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 15:46:36 2001 From: "Genna Melamed" To: Subject: Salvage?? Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 15:46:34 -0400 Does anyone know any salvage places where I can find Ducati parts? Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 18:19:14 2001 Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 15:19:12 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: racer sponsorship? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'm a newbie but I wondered do any of the 'local' bike shops sponsor new guys? Or does one have to be a up-and-coming star to garner any deals? I'm interested in price breaks on race specific items like timers, tire warmers, rear-sets, tuning services, tires, fairings, and odds and ends that tend to get whacked from time to time. With several people already having headed down there this past weekend, are there any going again this weekend for CCS? It'll be my first time to lay eyes on VIR. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 18:52:19 2001 From: laura granato To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: racer sponsorship? Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 18:52:02 -0400 > > With several people already having headed down there > this past weekend, are there any going again this > weekend for CCS? It'll be my first time to lay eyes on VIR. > Matthew: CCS cancelled their VIR races this weekend. It is now going to be nesba track days. Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 20:46:04 2001 From: "Patrick Caulfield" To: "DCCycles" Subject: VIR Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 20:41:09 -0400 ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C14B82.90E5DE60 Just wanted to add my 2 cents to my experience at VIR. Showed up at Will Call to pick up my tickets (they messed up and didn't m= ail them to me) and found out they only had one of my two tickets. But t= hey lady at the gate was so friendly they refunded me the price of two ti= ckets. I never asked for a refund, just wanted my tickets, which she gav= e me right away and in we went. Not a bad deal. Camping was nice. Cleanest portables I've ever been in. Only bad thing,= those damn camping stickers are a bitch to get off your windshield. Wha= t were they thinking? Other than the typical not spectator friendly, no big screen tv's (hey, n= o Laguna Seca) and no PA speakers around I really enjoyed the place. I'l= l be back next year for some track days for sure. The vendor displays could have been better but they still managed to take= $900 of my money in some new Kobe leather and gloves. -Chayne =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C14B82.90E5DE60
Just wanted to= add my 2 cents to my experience at VIR.
 
Sho= wed up at Will Call to pick up my tickets (they messed up and didn't mail= them to me) and found out they only had one of my two tickets.  But= they lady at the gate was so friendly they refunded me the price of two = tickets.  I never asked for a refund, just wanted my tickets, which = she gave me right away and in we went.  Not a bad deal.
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Camping was nice.  Cleanest portables I've ever bee= n in.  Only bad thing, those damn camping stickers are a bitch to ge= t off your windshield.  What were they thinking?
 
Other than the typical not spectator friendly, no big screen tv= 's (hey, no Laguna Seca) and no PA speakers around I really enjoyed the p= lace.  I'll be back next year for some track days for sure.
 
The vendor displays could have been better but they = still managed to take $900 of my money in some new Kobe leather and glove= s.
 
-Chayne

------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C14B82.90E5DE60-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 20:55:58 2001 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, race@XXXXXX, SV650@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 20:50:53 -0400 Subject: Summit Point Tune and Test Tomorrow @ 9:00 am X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-9,11,13,15 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Still plenty of spots left for tomorrows tune and test day, hosted by Roger Lyle. Great day for licensed racers to practice and tune their race prepped bikes. At this point, its probably best to just show up at the track. Day begins at 9:00. Roger can be reached at (301) 933-2599 or rogerlyle@XXXXXX Should be a great day! Tom Fitzpatrick CCS#80'6 (www.celticracing.com) Sponsors: *Fast Lane Cycles - fastlanecycles@XXXXXX (703)818-8890 (www.fastlanecycles.com)* *Barnacle Bill's Racing Leathers - barnacle@XXXXXX (www.racingleather.com)* *Nuts and Bolts Racing Racer Web Sites - rchapin@XXXXXX (www.nbracesites.com)* *Janet Bell TAX Preparation, Accounting and Consulting (belljan@XXXXXX)* From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 22:26:06 2001 From: ThomasAJordan@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 22:25:51 EDT Subject: Re: Salvage?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Italy? From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 22:31:46 2001 From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: More on VIR Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 22:31:37 -0400
Hey DC guys and gals,
 
I just got through reading peoples' remarks about this past weekend and wanted to acknowledge some people and disagree with others :)
 
It was nice to meet Howard, Terry and to see several other MARRC denizens too. I did not get a chance to walk the pits hardly at all, but several of my riding buds were in attendance (note to Bruce Roundtree: Dillon did Levels 3 and 4 with CSS there yesterday and today).
 
And to Steve Broadstreet's question : "If you were cornerworking weren't you supposed to be doing something else besides taking pictures? But cool pictures they were..."  Thanks, but I wanted to set the record straight that I did so during times when the station had full coverage :)
 
Mattew Patton asked: "a very recent dc-cycles post had a narritive and photos by one of the corner workers. In the commentary it made mention that Mat had braked hard (2 skid marks) after the rear had already started to slide. Was the hard braking a deliberate attempt to low-side the bike instead of entertaining a chance of a high-side?"
 
This is a very interesting question and I'm not sure I am the person to answer it, but I will try. The evidence as I described it was there plain as day. First a long curved skid mark, then a few feet later two skid marks more or less side by side, separated by about a foot maybe, not exactly straight, but not curving as much as the first one. I would hazard to guess that he may well have deliberately low-sided it. Others may have different ideas, but I like Patton's hypothesis, which did not occur to me. Thanks.
 
Anyway, that was the most dramatic spill I have ever seen corner working!
 
I loved VIR. I camped with a bunch of people from "Pennsyl-tucky" who follow Pro-AMA like some used to follow Jerry :) Hardly any of them rode, but they had gas BBQ's, food, and all kinds of creature comforts.
 
Yeah, the hot water ran out, but it was still warmer than the air temperature at night. The kiosks for the corner workers was pretty cool. I agree with Howard that MARRC feeds you better though,  but they don't offer you $50/day either. And I agree that the ride home was c-o-l-d! Especially after being in the hot sun all day. Happily I had my electric jacket liner :)
 
I also talked with several people who did NESBA and they concurred with other's favorable remarks . I'd like to try that school this spring - at VIR of course!
 
John  Kozyn
95 VFR
D-mode
 

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From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 2 23:09:42 2001 Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2001 23:08:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Rust proofing a gas tank? To: George.Cole@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" George.Cole@XXXXXX writes: >Hey all, > >Is there a local shop that carries some sort of rust treatment stuff for >gas tanks? > >The archives mentioned a product called Kreme? Who has this stuff? > >I just picked up a tank from a junk yard and it's a little rusty on the >inside. > I have a kit or two. Consists of acid wash/etch, drier (acetone), and coating polymer. Bit of a nuisance to use (have to remove and seal off petcock), but works pretty well if you follow mfg. directions. $20 - $25 (don't remember exact $). --garcia From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 00:12:49 2001 From: "Genna Melamed" To: Subject: Re: Salvage?? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 00:12:41 -0400 All of it???? :) Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX www.erols.com/genna ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: Re: Salvage?? > Italy? > From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 06:07:19 2001 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 06:02:56 -0400 Subject: Prince William County Leadership Institute X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-14,16-21,23-25,27-28,30,32-36,38,40,42,44-52,54-55,57-59,61 From: Tom Fitzpatrick I wrote about this before. If you live in Prince William County, Virginia, and want to learn how your County Government operates, this is a terrific opportunity. See content below, which was clipped from an announcement of my County Supervisor's office. Tom --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "McGhee, Pamela J." Cc: "Griggs Ruth T." Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 13:12:54 -0400 Subject: OCCOQUAN DISTRICT NEWSLETTER - OCTOBER The Occoquan District Newsletter Provided by Ruth Griggs, Occoquan District Supervisor, rgriggs@XXXXXX (703) 792-4643. Visit www.occoquandistrict.org October 2001 Community Leadership Institute <<...>> What is the Community Leadership Institute? We want you! Prince William County Government wants you sitting front and center in the next session of the Community Leadership Institute. The 12-week citizens' academy meets one evening a week from 7 to 9 p.m. Citizens hear about the budgeting and strategic planning process, tour the police and fire department's training facility, and learn about the different functions of various County agencies. Each week the group meets at a different County facility, and light refreshments are served before the class begins. Why should I attend the Community Leadership Institute? There are as many reasons to attend the Institute, as there are people who attend. Some people want to learn more about their local government. Some have recently moved to the area and want to find a way to get involved and make a difference in their community. Some class members would like to use their valuable skills by volunteering for County agencies or departments. How can I apply to attend the Community Leadership Institute? Applications are continually accepted for both the fall and spring class sessions. If your application is not selected for a session, it will be kept on file. You will be automatically considered for the next class. Applications can be faxed to you at any fax machine in the 703 area code by calling PWC-INFO (at 792-4636) and requesting message number 210. Applications can be mailed to you by calling the County Executive's Office at 792-6600 and requesting an application packet. For more information please call Citizen Participation Coordinator Desiree Wolfe at 792-6635. From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 07:53:47 2001 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 07:53:39 EDT Subject: Re: Insurance Question -- THEFT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/2/2001 2:28:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, harris@XXXXXX writes: > Sounds like you buddy needs to talk to the adjuster to get > to the bottom of the issue. Or... Lord help him, a lawyer. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 08:16:10 2001 From: Phil Simerly To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Pentagon victims relief ride Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:08:45 -0400 Pentagon victims relief fund ride. Check it out here. http://www.hdwash.com/hog/ride-info/pvrr.jpg HillJack ICQ - 2014076 YahooIM - CouchRyder 2001 FLHTC (The Couch) From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 08:30:26 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 05:30:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Salvage?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Isn't any Ducati really just a parts bike waiting to happen? ;^) --- Genna Melamed wrote: > All of it???? > > :) > From: > > Italy? ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 08:30:51 2001 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:30:41 EDT Subject: Re: Rust proofing a gas tank? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Let me add this to the Kreme thread. I have used this stuff and like it BUT. First: Do it outside or in an area where the (nasty) fumes will not be a problem. Second: Buy yourself a cheap fish tank air pump a little air hose from same. after applying the coating put the air hose in through the petcock hole and plug the pump in. That little air flow through the tank will dramatically speed up the drying process. I still have one of those pumps in my tool box. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 08:46:47 2001 From: "ROBERSON, Brian" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Salvage?? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 08:46:34 -0400 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C09.6F469D80 Chris, That's SOME expensive parts bike...!!! -----Original Message----- From: Chris Weaver [mailto:chris_vtr@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:30 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Salvage?? Isn't any Ducati really just a parts bike waiting to happen? ;^) --- Genna Melamed wrote: > All of it???? > > :) > From: > > Italy? ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C09.6F469D80 RE: Salvage??

Chris,

That's SOME expensive parts bike...!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Weaver [mailto:chris_vtr@XXXXXX] =
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:30 AM
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Salvage??


Isn't any Ducati really just a parts bike waiting = to
happen? ;^)


--- Genna Melamed <genna@XXXXXX> = wrote:
> All of it????
>
> :)

> From: <ThomasAJordan@XXXXXX>
> > Italy?


=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Chris Weaver
VTR1000f

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C09.6F469D80-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 09:11:20 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 06:11:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Zigmond Subject: numbered spaces To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I noticed something new when I parked today. What is with the numbered spaces at McPhereson Square (15th and Eye NW)? I would like to think it's an effort to maximize the number of bikes that can fit by organizing it in such a fashion. However, I am suspicious that it may be a ploy for the meter maids to keep tabs on which bikes are in which spaces and for how long. Has the "4 hour parking" ever been enforced before? Cliff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 09:13:02 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:12:53 EDT Subject: Re: racer sponsorship? To: pattonme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX > I'm a newbie but I wondered do any of the 'local' bike > shops sponsor new guys? Or does one have to be a > up-and-coming star to garner any deals? I'm interested > in price breaks on race specific items like timers, > tire warmers, rear-sets, tuning services, tires, > fairings, and odds and ends that tend to get whacked > from time to time. Sponserships at the club level are basically discounts for racers. Fast Lane in Chantilly does this for racers. You can also try SpeedWerks in Dover DE. (That's the shop I use.) > With several people already having headed down there > this past weekend, are there any going again this > weekend for CCS? It'll be my first time to lay eyes on VIR. The races for CCS this weekend were cancelled. CCS members got a mailer about it....and it's on their website somewhere. Keener From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 09:27:22 2001 From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Pentagon victims relief ride Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:24:54 -0400 Also going on the same day is the ride from Rockville Harley to Mount Vernon. Meet at Rockville Harley at 8:30, take off at 9. There was a post a while back about the same ride, and one of the dc-cycles "regulars" is helping to plan the Rockville Harley one. I have all the details if anyone needs them, and if anyone wants to meet in NW DC for the ride to Rockville Harley let me know. I'll have coffee and bagels or something ready for the cold morning! -patti -----Original Message----- From: Phil Simerly [mailto:Phil_Simerly@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:09 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Pentagon victims relief ride Pentagon victims relief fund ride. Check it out here. http://www.hdwash.com/hog/ride-info/pvrr.jpg HillJack ICQ - 2014076 YahooIM - CouchRyder 2001 FLHTC (The Couch) From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 09:38:34 2001 From: Michael.Brocchi@XXXXXX Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 09:32:48 -0400 Subject: DC parking To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C14C0F.E43B5A80 I am currently parking at 15th and G streets next to Old Ebbitt Grill, and my office is moving to 1750 Pennsylvania. I have noticed parking at the corners of 18th and G, if anyone parks there, can you please let me know what time I would need to be there by in the morning to get a spot. 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To: pattonme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- SKeener2@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'm a newbie but I wondered do any of the 'local' bike > > shops sponsor new guys? Or does one have to be a > > up-and-coming star to garner any deals? I'm interested > > in price breaks on race specific items like timers, > > tire warmers, rear-sets, tuning services, tires, > > fairings, and odds and ends that tend to get whacked > > from time to time. > > Sponserships at the club level are basically discounts > for racers. Fast Lane > in Chantilly does this for racers. You can also try > SpeedWerks in Dover DE. > (That's the shop I use.) also cycle accessory discounters in gaithersburg, md -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 10:08:53 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 07:08:49 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Relief ride this weekend To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Has anyone heard about the "Attack on America Relief Ride" this weekend? It supposedly takes off at 9am from Fair Oaks mall, that's all I know. I am interested in attending, does anyone have any info they could share? Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 10:49:31 2001 From: Brian Roach To: "Patrick Caulfield" , "DCCycles" Subject: Re: VIR Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:48:38 -0400 On Tuesday 02 October 2001 20:41, Patrick Caulfield wrote: > Other than the typical not spectator friendly, no big screen tv's (hey, no > Laguna Seca) and no PA speakers around I really enjoyed the place. I'll be > back next year for some track days for sure. Talk to the AMA Pro Racing about that one. They'd rather spend millions in an attempt to rip off Roger Edmundson (See Edmundson vs. AMA) than buy things like Air Fence and Big Screen TVs to make the sport better. The screens at Laguna are owned by the FIM (SBK), who IMHO actually know what they're doing 99% of the time (Ok... the treaded tire thing for superbikes in 2004 is a little weird, but if FIA F1 can do it...). 90k spectators at Laguna, 10k at any given AMA event.... Just my $.02, as always. - Roach From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 11:31:41 2001 From: "Genna Melamed" To: Subject: Re: Salvage?? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 11:31:29 -0400 Well, it's not that bad.... :) My need is a result of a high-speed spill. But I got the part now, so all is good.... Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Weaver" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 8:30 AM Subject: Re: Salvage?? > Isn't any Ducati really just a parts bike waiting to > happen? ;^) > > > --- Genna Melamed wrote: > > All of it???? > > > > :) > > > From: > > > Italy? > > > ===== > Chris Weaver > VTR1000f > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:18:00 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:17:57 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Group ride this weekend in Washington, DC area To: CBR List , DC Cycles M-^SAttack on AmericaM-^T Relief Ride October 6, 2001 Date: October 6, 2001 Starting Location: Fair Oaks Mall Parking Lot (in front of Sears) Departure Time: 9:00 AM SHARP! Destination: Fallen Firefighters Memorial in Emmitsburg, MD We will be collecting your donations at the Fair Oaks Parking Lot before departing for the American Red Cross September 11 Disaster Relief Fund. (Checks are the preferred method M-^V make checks payable to American Red Cross and in the memo portion write September 11 Disaster Relief). We will be joining the 3rd annual M-^SRed Helmets RideM-^T at Francis Scott Key Mall in Frederick, MD (Address: Rt. 270 and Market St.) with a police escort to the Fallen Firefighters Memorial in Emmitsburg, MD. There will be a Wreath Laying Service, refreshments and socializing time at the final destination of the Memorial. If you would like to show your support and participate, contact Gary Pancione @ 703-403-2138 (cell) or at PANCIONE_GL@XXXXXX (email) or at GPANCIONE@XXXXXX (email). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:19:50 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 11:26:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks Lori ---- '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:24:03 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: Lori Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Here we go again!! --- Lori Wilson wrote: > Hey > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > have a question . A friend > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > good/bad/indifferent?? > Thanks > Lori > > ---- > '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" > '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" > '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" > '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:27:54 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:20:32 -0400 Prepare yourself for the onslaught. I'll give it to you in a nutshell. Powerride sucks!!! They are bandits and thieves and I would not buy anything from them unless I was desperate. Other than that, they're fine ;-) LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner Lori Wilson innocently asked: Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:30:41 2001 From: "ROBERSON, Brian" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:30:35 -0400 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C31.1C2D64D0 This topic has been hashed and rehashed many times.. The archives probably have a ton of info on it... Truly your mileage may vary when dealing with Coleman.. They have repackaged their name, but in my opinion their service hasn't changed much. Most people here will tell you the experience they have had is very sub par. Of course there are probably people who will say the opposite... My friend bought a 99 F4 sometime ago and had a good experience... They even bought the bike back from him when he was ready to sell it... Brian -----Original Message----- From: Lori Wilson [mailto:wilsonl@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:27 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks Lori ---- '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C31.1C2D64D0 RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide

This topic has been hashed and rehashed many times.. = The archives probably have a ton of info on it... Truly your mileage = may vary when dealing with Coleman.. They have repackaged their name, = but in my opinion their service hasn't changed much.  Most people = here will tell you the experience they have had is very sub par.  = Of course there are probably people who will say the = opposite...

My friend bought a 99 F4 sometime ago and had a good = experience... They even bought the bike back from him when he was ready = to sell it...

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Lori Wilson [mailto:wilsonl@XXXXXX] =
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:27 AM
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide


Hey
I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but = have a question . A friend
of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from = Coleman PowerRide in Falls
Church. Has anyone had experience with them- = good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks Lori

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'82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug"
'85 Honda VF500F "Victoria"
'95 Yam XV750 "Athena"
'98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon"

------_=_NextPart_001_01C14C31.1C2D64D0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:36:05 2001 From: Cedric Bernescut To: DC-CYCLES Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:35:55 -0400 Linda was pretty succinct in her analysis but as a former and recovering salesperson from Coleman's, I have to add that the entire operation (save possibly the repair shop) is infused with the philosophy of extracting the maximum return from their customers and honesty, decency and appreciation for motorcycling are all casualties in their quest. Basically, their sphincter stretchers. Cedric Prepare yourself for the onslaught. I'll give it to you in a nutshell. Powerride sucks!!! They are bandits and thieves and I would not buy anything from them unless I was desperate. Other than that, they're fine ;-) LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner Lori Wilson innocently asked: Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:37:17 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Uh oh... Here we go. As virtually everyone will tell you on this list, STAY FAR FAR AWAY FROM POWERRIDE. They are well known among pretty much anyone who's dealt with them as a rip-off joint. The bikes are overpriced, the salespeople are liars, the management wants their staff to screw you, the parts department puts a HUUUGE markup on parts, and the accessories department is staffed with clueless morons. Please please please do not let your friend buy from them. Contact Loudoun Motorsports, Manassas Honda/Kawasaki, or pretty much any other Honda dealer for a better experience. No shop around here is that great, but they're ALL better than Powerride/Coleman. Chris --- Lori Wilson wrote: > Hey > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > have a question . A friend > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > good/bad/indifferent?? > Thanks > Lori __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:38:36 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:38:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Really needs to be a DC-Cycles "FAQ" - Q. Coleman/Powe-ride Suck or no suck? A. Depends if you like poor service, surely staff, and high prices. - Q. SUVs Hate them or Love them? A. Depends if you're in one or under one. - Q. Do you shoot with your left or right hand? A. Depends on if you're wearing a helmet. - Q. Speed/Redlight Cameras Cool or not? A. Depends -- do you like to lane split? - Q. Oil - Dino or Mobile-1 A. Depends -- do you use slick 50? - Q. Chain or Shafty? A. Depends -- Can you Wheelie? etc... On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Trey Herb wrote: > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) > From: Trey Herb > To: Lori Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide > > Here we go again!! > > --- Lori Wilson wrote: > > Hey > > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > > have a question . A friend > > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > > good/bad/indifferent?? > > Thanks > > Lori > > > > ---- > > '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" > > '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" > > '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" > > '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > http://phone.yahoo.com > -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:44:32 2001 From: "Guiseppi Milano" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:43:15 -0400 I second that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide > Prepare yourself for the onslaught. I'll give it to you in a nutshell. > > Powerride sucks!!! They are bandits and thieves and I would not buy > anything from them unless I was desperate. > > Other than that, they're fine ;-) > > LindaT. > Custom TankBags > Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) > 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy > 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) > 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing > http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner > > Lori Wilson innocently asked: > > Hey > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? > Thanks > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:46:18 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:46:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Cargo Van & Trailer For Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I'm getting rid of the cargo van I originally bought from another list member for carting my YSR around. I sold the YSR, so now the van has to go. The van doesn't seem to want to start, but it's a little finicky. It also needs an emissions check. It's great for hauling a bike (or two) around in and has a lot of power and a strengthened chassis for towing. I paid $500, but since it doesn't want to start right now, I'll take the best offer I get (and I mean that literally). I also have a single-rail trailer that I used to use to haul the YSR around before I got the van. It's almost brand new and you can see it at the website of the folks I bought it from at http://www.scandipacific.com/pages/trailers/motorcycle02.html (it's the one at the top of the page). I'm asking $150 or best offer for this item. I'll give more details on either of these items to whoever might be interested. No need to buy both together. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:49:37 2001 From: Han Park To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: FYI: Red Light Camera on 50 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:44:39 -0400 I noticed this the other day. There is a red light camera on 50 going west a light or two before you hit the 7 corners area. I forget the name of the road at the intersection. I remember seeing them put it up and then while heading east toward DC yesterday I saw it flash as it caught some cage running the light. FYI, I'm just waiting for the speed cameras. han From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:51:26 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:51:07 EDT Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: chris_vtr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/3/01 1:40:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chris_vtr@XXXXXX writes: > Please please please do not let your friend buy from > them. Contact Loudoun Motorsports, Manassas > Honda/Kawasaki, or pretty much any other Honda dealer > for a better experience. No shop around here is that > great, but they're ALL better than Powerride/Coleman. Gee...and here I would warn you away from Loudoun due to unprofessional behavior. DOH! From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:52:34 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:51:11 -0400 Subject: NESBA track days and Coleman Powersport. From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Regarding Coleman....STAY AWAY! 'Nuff said there, next subject. Anybody doing the NESBA track days at VIR this weekend? Thinking about joining and heading down there for the weekend. Thanks! "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 13:55:03 2001 From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 13:43:17 -0400 You forgot: Q: Boxers or Briefs? A: Depends. ;^) >From: "Daniel H. Brown" >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide >Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:38:30 -0400 (EDT) > > > >Really needs to be a DC-Cycles "FAQ" > >- Q. Coleman/Powe-ride Suck or no suck? > A. Depends if you like poor service, surely staff, and high prices. > >- Q. SUVs Hate them or Love them? > A. Depends if you're in one or under one. > >- Q. Do you shoot with your left or right hand? > A. Depends on if you're wearing a helmet. > >- Q. Speed/Redlight Cameras Cool or not? > A. Depends -- do you like to lane split? > >- Q. Oil - Dino or Mobile-1 > A. Depends -- do you use slick 50? > >- Q. Chain or Shafty? > A. Depends -- Can you Wheelie? > >etc... > > > >On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Trey Herb wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:24:01 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Trey Herb > > To: Lori Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide > > > > Here we go again!! > > > > --- Lori Wilson wrote: > > > Hey > > > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > > > have a question . A friend > > > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > > > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > > > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > > > good/bad/indifferent?? > > > Thanks > > > Lori > > > > > > ---- > > > '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" > > > '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" > > > '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" > > > '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > > http://phone.yahoo.com > > > >-- >Dan Brown >brown@XXXXXX > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 14:03:33 2001 From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:01:04 -0400 I have had very good experiences with Heyser Cycle in Laurel. Yes I know it is a haul but they are nice, knowledgable, reliable and reasonably priced. I've never dealt with Coleman because I have been satisfied with Heyser--- no need to go anywhere else. But I've heard they are evil there at Coleman. -p --- Lori Wilson wrote: > Hey > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > have a question . A friend > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > good/bad/indifferent?? > Thanks > Lori __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. http://phone.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 14:12:12 2001 From: "Natasha Louis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 14:00:23 -0400 I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went in there last year to buy an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was stupid. The idiot had the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a Ninja 250 instead. This dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling skills. They will never get a penny from me. Natasha >From: Chris Weaver >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide >Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) > >Uh oh... Here we go. > >As virtually everyone will tell you on this list, STAY >FAR FAR AWAY FROM POWERRIDE. They are well known among >pretty much anyone who's dealt with them as a rip-off >joint. The bikes are overpriced, the salespeople are >liars, the management wants their staff to screw you, >the parts department puts a HUUUGE markup on parts, >and the accessories department is staffed with >clueless morons. > >Please please please do not let your friend buy from >them. Contact Loudoun Motorsports, Manassas >Honda/Kawasaki, or pretty much any other Honda dealer >for a better experience. No shop around here is that >great, but they're ALL better than Powerride/Coleman. > >Chris > >--- Lori Wilson wrote: > > Hey > > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > > have a question . A friend > > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > > good/bad/indifferent?? > > Thanks > > Lori > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. >http://phone.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 14:52:32 2001 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Natasha Louis" Cc: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:52:14 -0400 Geez, usually I'd expect them to do the opposite, try to move you up to a more expensive and powerful bike. It is insulting if the salesperson assumed you were a newbie without asking a few questions first, though. Actually, if your were a newbie, I'd commend them for trying to steer you toward the Ninja 250 instead of the F4. Personally, I wouldn't let them put air in my tires. And their parts markup, holy cow. I needed a valve cover bolt and a fairing bolt for my VFR (neither of which they had in stock, BTW.) The only reason I considered them was proximity, the assumption that they'd have a well stocked parts inventory (wrong!) and the desire to get the job done ASAP. Their price was about 40% higher than Motorcycle Factory for the same OEM parts, plus waiting five days. Forget that. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Natasha Louis > I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went in there last year to buy > an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was stupid. The idiot had > the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a Ninja 250 instead. This > dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling skills. They will never > get a penny from me. > > Natasha From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 15:19:00 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:10:36 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide While I can understand why you would be insulted it seems the salesman might of been concerned for your safety. I believe the usual line at coleman's would be to walk in looking for 250 and have the salesman sell you an R1. Hugh On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Natasha Louis wrote: > I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went in there last year to buy > an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was stupid. The idiot had > the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a Ninja 250 instead. This > dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling skills. They will never > get a penny from me. > > Natasha From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 15:35:33 2001 From: "Forbes, Trey" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:28:31 -0400 if your friend is looking for the best price check out motorcycle factory in woodbrigde. when i was looking at the f4i powerride couldn't come close. a friend of mine swears by the service dept. there too. hope this helps.. -T -----Original Message----- From: hcaldwell [mailto:hcaldwell@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 3:11 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide While I can understand why you would be insulted it seems the salesman might of been concerned for your safety. I believe the usual line at coleman's would be to walk in looking for 250 and have the salesman sell you an R1. Hugh On Wed, 3 Oct 2001, Natasha Louis wrote: > I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went in there last year to buy > an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was stupid. The idiot had > the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a Ninja 250 instead. This > dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling skills. They will never > get a penny from me. > > Natasha From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 15:50:28 2001 From: Cedric Bernescut To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:50:25 -0400 The other day I was in there looking for a part and my visit went as follows: The part was out of stock. The Phoenix jacket I bought at FastLane for $129.00 I saw posted at $199.00. The synthetic oil I wanted was $9.16 a quart. A customer was sitting on a CBR929RR while the salesman explained the paperwork procedure on how to get a motorcycle license at the DMV. I heard no mention of MSF, or rider training of any kind. Cedric While I can understand why you would be insulted it seems the salesman might of been concerned for your safety. I believe the usual line at coleman's would be to walk in looking for 250 and have the salesman sell you an R1. Hugh From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 15:58:20 2001 From: "Dexter Medley" To: Subject: Keener result? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 15:41:47 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C14C21.E979F440 I thought Keener said he finished fifth in his VIR race this=20 weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results with=20 him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it? -- Larry ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C14C21.E979F440
I thought Keener said he finished = fifth in his=20 VIR race this
weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results = with=20
him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it?

--=20 Larry
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C14C21.E979F440-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:10:38 2001 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:10:05 EDT Subject: Re: Keener result? To: pltrgyst@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 10/3/01 4:04:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pltrgyst@XXXXXX writes: > I thought Keener said he finished fifth in his VIR race this > weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results with > him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it? The guy in 3rd place was incorrectly DQ'd. When John Ulrich of RoadRacing World and Team Valvoline Emgo Suzuki spoke to the AMA officials and pointed out their oversight they went ahead and corrected it. I finished 5th....the DQ moved me to 4th...and now I'm back to 5th again. No problem...the guy rode very well. Keener From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:15:00 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 13:14:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: FYI: Red Light Camera on 50 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX also spotted one in md. on old georgetown road at edson road as you head n/e toward 355 --- Han Park wrote: > I noticed this the other day. There is a red light > camera on 50 > going west a light or two before you hit the 7 corners > area. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:15:52 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:14:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: Thanks! Thanks to everyone for the info on PowerRide. I think I've pretty much steered her totally clear of them! She's calling around to other places to see what kind of deals she can get- Thanks again, and sorry to ask an apparently repetitive question! (back to lurk mode) Lori ---- '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:16:39 2001 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'George.Cole@XXXXXX'" Subject: Rust proofing a gas tank? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:18:00 -0400 George Cole questioned, "Is there a local shop that carries some sort of rust treatment stuff for gas tanks? The archives mentioned a product called Kreme? Who has this stuff? I just picked up a tank from a junk yard and it's a little rusty on the inside." Kreme is just that "Kreme" Some swear by it, more swear at it. Try POR-15 http://www.por-15.com/ Kit is $50 and can't be beat. Just be sure the cleaned tank is dry. Strosniders has the rubber stoppers If you're looking for something cheaper -- with a caveat: I've not tried it but from SabMag: Subject: Tank-derust Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:09:29 -0800 From: "W. Jason Grennell" Subject: Re: Por15 or alternative...Rusteco If you feel brave, the solution is simple. Mosey down to the hardware store, pool/spa section, $5 should net you a container of sodium carbonate, its a pH increaser, mild alkali. Mix a little with water, couple tablespoons per gallon. Air out your gas tank, plug all the holes but for the filler neck. fill the tank with the solution, take your battery charger or even a battery, (-) lead to the tank and the (+) lead to an electrode suspended in the solution. I used a 5/16 x 2 inch bolt as the electrode. This process has no effect on steel, only rust, it converts Fe2O3 to Fe3O4, orange rust to black oxide, loose rust and crud will collect on the electrode, wash it off now and again, every few hours worked for me. When you're done, rinse and dry the tank out, the orange rust will be hard black deposits that are tight to the steel. I did this twice, 15 hours each time as the tank was really rusty. The remaining deposits will inhibit further rust and if you keep the tank full, it should be just fine as is. I also collected several tablespoons worth of crud off of the electrode cleanings. As this process does not harm steel, you can't let it run too long. -Jason Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:19:35 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:17:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Keener result? From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --Apple-Mail-1-210752775 On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 03:41 , Dexter Medley wrote: > I thought Keener said he finished fifth in his VIR race this > weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results with > him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it? The rider who finished 3rd place on another SV was disqualified for not=20= making weight. (Tech said that minimum weight was 380 lbs.)=20 Unfortunately, the tech inspectors were not using an updated rulebook=20 that said SV's were exempt. So that rider's finish was re-instated. "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the=20 skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-210752775 On Wednesday, October 3, 2001, at 03:41 , Dexter Medley wrote: I thought Keener said he finished fifth in his VIR race this weekend, but Speedvision last night showed results with him placed fourth. Great either way, but which was it? The rider who finished 3rd place on another SV was disqualified for not making weight. (Tech said that minimum weight was 380 lbs.) Unfortunately, the tech inspectors were not using an updated rulebook that said SV's were exempt. So that rider's finish was re-instated. "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-210752775-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:22:07 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 16:20:18 -0400 Subject: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX http://slim.achieversusa.com/ryan/bostrom_turn4.jpg http://slim.achieversusa.com/ryan/xIMG_7060.jpg These are big, but well worth the load time. This photographer was shooting from between corners 4 and 5 at VIR. Real nice guy too. (This is from a NICE digital camera, with an even NICER lens!) "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 16:23:32 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 15:28:46 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: Rust proofing a gas tank? Thanks Carl, I discovered the POR-15 website late yesterday and ordered their Motorcycle cleaning and sealing kit for $ 30.00 shipped. I should be tank sealing by the weekend. Cheers, George (also in Bethesda) George M Cole Technology Consultant Boise Technology 301-523-4161 FAX 1-888-240-3154 >>> "Custer, Carl" 10/03/01 04:18PM >>> George Cole questioned, "Is there a local shop that carries some sort of rust treatment stuff for gas tanks? The archives mentioned a product called Kreme? Who has this stuff? I just picked up a tank from a junk yard and it's a little rusty on the inside." Kreme is just that "Kreme" Some swear by it, more swear at it. Try POR-15 http://www.por-15.com/ Kit is $50 and can't be beat. Just be sure the cleaned tank is dry. Strosniders has the rubber stoppers If you're looking for something cheaper -- with a caveat: I've not tried it but from SabMag: Subject: Tank-derust Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 10:09:29 -0800 From: "W. Jason Grennell" Subject: Re: Por15 or alternative...Rusteco If you feel brave, the solution is simple. Mosey down to the hardware store, pool/spa section, $5 should net you a container of sodium carbonate, its a pH increaser, mild alkali. Mix a little with water, couple tablespoons per gallon. Air out your gas tank, plug all the holes but for the filler neck. fill the tank with the solution, take your battery charger or even a battery, (-) lead to the tank and the (+) lead to an electrode suspended in the solution. I used a 5/16 x 2 inch bolt as the electrode. This process has no effect on steel, only rust, it converts Fe2O3 to Fe3O4, orange rust to black oxide, loose rust and crud will collect on the electrode, wash it off now and again, every few hours worked for me. When you're done, rinse and dry the tank out, the orange rust will be hard black deposits that are tight to the steel. I did this twice, 15 hours each time as the tank was really rusty. The remaining deposits will inhibit further rust and if you keep the tank full, it should be just fine as is. I also collected several tablespoons worth of crud off of the electrode cleanings. As this process does not harm steel, you can't let it run too long. -Jason Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 18:53:35 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 18:53:38 -0400 To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR At 04:20 PM 10/3/01, Sean Jordan wrote: >http://slim.achieversusa.com/ryan/bostrom_turn4.jpg > >http://slim.achieversusa.com/ryan/xIMG_7060.jpg > >These are big, but well worth the load time. This photographer was >shooting from between corners 4 and 5 at VIR. Real nice guy too. (This is >from a NICE digital camera, with an even NICER lens!) Now come on, don't tease -- what was he using? And how did he get that high angle on the Duhamel shot? 8;) Thanks -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 19:00:20 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 19:00:25 -0400 To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Fwd: Re: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR >>.... (This is from a NICE digital camera, with an even NICER lens!) > >Now come on, don't tease -- what was he using? And how did he get that >high angle on the Duhamel shot? 8;) From his Web site, I'm guessing the Olympus E-10? -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 19:50:19 2001 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 19:49:41 -0400 Cedric wrote: I have to add that the entire operation (save possibly the repair shop) is infused with the philosophy of extracting the maximum return from their customers and honesty, decency and appreciation for motorcycling are all casualties in their quest. People - "save the repair shop" should be the moto ! The only reason they don't take part in the above philosophy is that they're too lost figuring which parts go where...or on which bike... Niv _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 3 20:55:55 2001 Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 20:55:41 -0400 To: "DCCycles" From: Jeff Steele Subject: Heyser Cycle Center I'd like to publicly commend Heyser Cycle Center in Laurel for the service they provided me this evening. After work, I stopped at an Amoco to put air in my front tire which was a little low. The compressor was broken and instead of filling my tire with air, it just let what air was in the tire escape. I didn't realize how much air I had lost and decided to ride to the nearest station. As soon as I got started I saw how flat my tire was and pulled into Heyser to see if I could use their compressor. Ted, the Assistant Service Manager was happy to assist, but found that my inner tube had slipped below the rim. The only way to fix it was to remove the front wheel and given that it was after 6, all the technicians were finished for the day. However, Bobby -- one of the techs who had stopped to see what was going on -- volunteered to stay and repair it for me. Here was a guy who was headed out the door for the day and without anyone asking, offered to stay and help me out! I should say here that I ride a Harley-Davidson, not one of the Hondas, Kawasakis, or Yamahas that Heyser sells. They had no particular reason to do me any favors, so I was really impressed by their willingness to go beyond the call of duty to help. If this is how they treat total strangers, I can only imagine the level of service they provide their loyal customers. I would guess that most of you on this list probably know that Heyser provides great service, but for those of you who don't, I highly recommend them. -- Jeff -- From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 08:57:32 2001 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:03:21 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda To: Sean Jordan CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: NESBA track days and Coleman Powersport. I might go to NESBA track day at VIR for just Saturday if there's a spot still available (little too late maybe) and if I can rent a pick-up truck by then.... -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda3@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Hawk GT Sean Jordan wrote: > > Regarding Coleman....STAY AWAY! 'Nuff said there, next subject. > > Anybody doing the NESBA track days at VIR this weekend? Thinking about > joining and heading down there for the weekend. Thanks! > > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 09:18:47 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 06:18:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: Natasha Louis , dc-cycles@XXXXXX I see that they have not changed in ten years. My wife went in there ten years ago. She had been riding an EX500 and went in looking at 600's. The salesman immediately told her that the ZX6 was too big for her, she needed the 250. I went in there 2 years ago looking for either a VTR or TLS. I spent 20 minutes sitting on the two of them. No salesman bothered to get off his seat to offer assistance. Conversely, Shenandoah Honda has sold my last two bikes to me at a good price. They tossed in free accessories, give me 20% off everything else I buy from them. I went in there the other day to look at ATV's. The salesman saw me and asked how my SuperHawk was working out. I like a guy who remembers who you are. --- Natasha Louis wrote: > I refuse to set foot in Coleman/Powerride. I went > in there last year to buy > an F4, the a$$hole salesman looked at me like I was > stupid. The idiot had > the nerve to ask me if I'd rather want to look at a > Ninja 250 instead. This > dumba$$ had no knowledge of me or my motorcycling > skills. They will never > get a penny from me. > > Natasha > > > >From: Chris Weaver > >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide > >Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2001 10:37:15 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Uh oh... Here we go. > > > >As virtually everyone will tell you on this list, > STAY > >FAR FAR AWAY FROM POWERRIDE. They are well known > among > >pretty much anyone who's dealt with them as a > rip-off > >joint. The bikes are overpriced, the salespeople > are > >liars, the management wants their staff to screw > you, > >the parts department puts a HUUUGE markup on parts, > >and the accessories department is staffed with > >clueless morons. > > > >Please please please do not let your friend buy > from > >them. Contact Loudoun Motorsports, Manassas > >Honda/Kawasaki, or pretty much any other Honda > dealer > >for a better experience. No shop around here is > that > >great, but they're ALL better than > Powerride/Coleman. > > > >Chris > > > >--- Lori Wilson wrote: > > > Hey > > > I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but > > > have a question . A friend > > > of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from > > > Coleman PowerRide in Falls > > > Church. Has anyone had experience with them- > > > good/bad/indifferent?? > > > Thanks > > > Lori > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Listen to your Yahoo! Mail messages from any phone. > >http://phone.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 09:37:25 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 06:37:16 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: NESBA track days at VIR To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX After having been treated to 8 sessions of 20 minutes each at Summit yesturday curtecy of Rodger Lyle, I dare say other options pale. But I might do a Nesba event just to get a look at the track. If it's track time you want, it might make a bit of sense to do a normal track day or two then sign up and take the MARRC school and get your racing license and take up opportunities like this. $150 per day (he does 3 a year and attendance can be VERY light like yesturday) and a CCS license is $100 a year. You figure out NESBA's costs and you'll be bleeding money and you don't get to have near as much fun. But the pos side of NESBA is that you get to visit other nearby tracks. I don't know if I improved my lap times by a whole lot (no timer) but I got a lot more comfortable on the GS and worked on my braking, cornering speed, and general confidence. I still have to learn to relax and put the weight down in the seat when cornering. If nothing else I improved remarkably thru turns 6 (still weak) and 10 which I can take in 5th gear with very small throttle roll-off prior. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 09:51:26 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 06:51:14 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX anyone here tape the pieces? I missed them all. *sob* __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 09:53:07 2001 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:50:27 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide This thread is especially frustrating for me because Coleman is so close to my house. It'd be so easy to get service there (I could walk home), if only. They did a carb clean-up and tracked down a small fuel leak for me on a Virago 750 about 5 years ago; no real problems. They've expanded *a lot* since then; the huge storage building on the back of the place used to be a mud back lot. Either their business model is working, or there's a whole lot more money to be made in personal watercraft than I thought. My last contact there was to get my near-new FLH inspected. The guy in receiving insisted that my HD-installed display plate with the existing inspection sticker was illegal, and they had to put the sticker on the fork. So, I went to the gas station, got my inspection, and got the sticker where I wanted it. /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:05:15 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:05:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Track bike advice To: dccyles After seeing me drop my SV at the Battletrax competition, Elizabeth has given her blessing to me getting an inexpensive track bike. Now for the big question what should I get? I'd like to keep the cost under $1500, especially since I've got a YSR project bike that will have several hundred poured into it over the winter. So far what I have seen that fits in this range are: * An RZ350 for $900 that needs suspension and brake work, engine was just rebuilt. * A race prepped GS500 for $1000 that has a works racing shock installed. * A running EX500 for $400 (need to go to Atlanta to pick up) If I expand my price range a little, I could probably pick up an FZR400. Of course the other expensive option is to get a new street bike and turn my SV650 into a track bike. However I still owe money on the bike, so I am reluctant to put it too much in harms way. Plus it is such a great street bike. ===== Keith Doing my best to be Buckeroo Banzai (Rock musician, motorcycle racer, high-tech professional) Lil Red SV01 YSR 50 (The new addition) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:07:10 2001 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 10:13:34 -0400 From: Thomas Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Inspection sticker plates (was: another coleman thread) I know this has come up on the list before.... But it is illegal... And any inspector who puts a sticker on one of those plates can be fined by the state, and lose his license. > receiving insisted that my HD-installed display plate with the existing > inspection sticker was illegal, and they had to put the stickerM-* From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:16:51 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:16:50 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: finding a dealer and bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I won't rehash Coleman or Poserride. But my overwhelming vote goes to Shenandoah Honda in Winchester. I'll have to price compare MFI vs them on parts I guess but I'm fairly certain MFI will loose handily. Manassas Honda sure does. Not only is their book price lower than anybody else around here but they'll give you a 15% discount just for asking. Pity they don't carry Suzuki or else I'd be happy with 1-stop shopping for most of my bike needs. I've been using Valley Cycle (also Winchester) till now but I'll probably switch to Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg) for that after I discuss race sponsorship terms with them. Or a contact in Philly who will give me 20% over cost for anything and everything I want. heh. Why an F4i? How much experience does this person have? Other list favorites are Romney Cycle (in Romney WV) and it's sister store that carries Honda's. Can't remember it's name at the moment. Bit of a hike for service, however. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:29:28 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:29:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Rob Winters wrote: > Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:50:27 -0400 > From: Rob Winters > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide > > This thread is especially frustrating for me because Coleman is so close to > my house. It'd be so easy to get service there (I could walk home), if only. It might not be quite as close, but, Crossroads cycle isn't /that/ far, if you're near Coleman. They have my business. The place looks a bit crusty, but they're good people who know what they're doing. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:47:07 2001 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 09:51:58 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: Track bike advice Keith, I am not sure you have seen this, but roadacing world always has race/track bike for sale. There will probably be some great deals later into the Fall. http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/monthlyupdates/classifieds.html >From your choices below the GS500 seems like the best bike. Regards, George Cole 01 FZ1 99 R6 92 Zeyphr (rusty fuel tank) >>> Keith Lamond 10/04/01 10:05AM >>> After seeing me drop my SV at the Battletrax competition, Elizabeth has given her blessing to me getting an inexpensive track bike. Now for the big question what should I get? I'd like to keep the cost under $1500, especially since I've got a YSR project bike that will have several hundred poured into it over the winter. So far what I have seen that fits in this range are: * An RZ350 for $900 that needs suspension and brake work, engine was just rebuilt. * A race prepped GS500 for $1000 that has a works racing shock installed. * A running EX500 for $400 (need to go to Atlanta to pick up) If I expand my price range a little, I could probably pick up an FZR400. Of course the other expensive option is to get a new street bike and turn my SV650 into a track bike. However I still owe money on the bike, so I am reluctant to put it too much in harms way. Plus it is such a great street bike. ===== Keith Doing my best to be Buckeroo Banzai (Rock musician, motorcycle racer, high-tech professional) Lil Red SV01 YSR 50 (The new addition) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:56:11 2001 From: "Wood, Sally" To: "'wilsonl@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:49:57 -0400 Lori, Friends don't let friends buy from Coleman. Sally '01 YZF600R Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 11:26:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: Question on Coleman PowerRide Hey I've been lurking on the list for a bit now, but have a question . A friend of mine is thinking about getting an F4i from Coleman PowerRide in Falls Church. Has anyone had experience with them- good/bad/indifferent?? Thanks Lori ---- '82 Kaw 305 CSR "Bug" '85 Honda VF500F "Victoria" '95 Yam XV750 "Athena" '98 Honda VFR800 "Poseidon" From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 10:59:00 2001 From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Subject: Re: Track bike advice Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 10:58:09 -0400 Keith, If you want to spend a little more, I have an SV that is already track ready that I am selling. It has a Penske shock, jetting, TBR pipe, clip-ons, rearsets, etc. It only has a bellypan as far as bodywork is concerned, but like I said it is track ready and legal. It has the equivalent of 1 race season on it (8 weekends last year and 2 this year). Tyhe gas tank is a bit dented, but it all works well and it is a great racebike. I will race it this weekend if it is not sold. I am asking $3900 for it. Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Lamond" To: "dccyles" Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: Track bike advice > After seeing me drop my SV at the Battletrax > competition, Elizabeth has given her blessing to me > getting an inexpensive track bike. Now for the big > question what should I get? > > I'd like to keep the cost under $1500, especially > since I've got a YSR project bike that will have > several hundred poured into it over the winter. So > far what I have seen that fits in this range are: > > * An RZ350 for $900 that needs suspension and brake > work, engine was just rebuilt. > > * A race prepped GS500 for $1000 that has a works > racing shock installed. > > * A running EX500 for $400 (need to go to Atlanta to > pick up) > > If I expand my price range a little, I could probably > pick up an FZR400. > > Of course the other expensive option is to get a new > street bike and turn my SV650 into a track bike. > However I still owe money on the bike, so I am > reluctant to put it too much in harms way. Plus it is > such a great street bike. > > > > ===== > Keith > Doing my best to be Buckeroo Banzai > (Rock musician, motorcycle racer, high-tech professional) > Lil Red SV01 > YSR 50 (The new addition) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/01 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 11:02:14 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Inspection sticker plates (was: another coleman thread) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Simply put a nice patch of clear contact paper on your fork first so the sticker comes off real easy like. then you can yourself move the sticker if you want. At the least, you protect your fork. I have a whole roll of the stuff if anyone wants some. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 11:05:08 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:01:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --Apple-Mail-1-278186278 > > Now come on, don't tease -- what was he using? And how did he get that=20= > high angle on the Duhamel shot? 8;) > > Thanks -- Larry When I asked him, he replied: "I use a Canon D-30 SLR and Canon 100-400L f1:4.5-5.6 IS USM zoom lens.=20= I'm one of those guys with the white lenses on the black camera=20 bodies...the mark of a Canon photo nut." "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the=20 skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-278186278 Now come on, don't tease -- what was he using? And how did he get that high angle on the Duhamel shot? 8;) Thanks -- Larry When I asked him, he replied: Verdana"I use a Canon D-30 SLR and Canon 100-400L f1:4.5-5.6 IS USM zoom lens. I'm one of those guys with the white lenses on the black camera bodies...the mark of a Canon photo nut." "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-278186278-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 11:16:07 2001 From: GOINGRIDING@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:16:01 EDT Subject: Cheap (but running) bike wanted.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Looking for a cheap, but running bike to tool around on. Preferably something sporty like an old EX500, GS500, ZX, etc. Thanks From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 11:23:48 2001 From: Han Park To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Clear Contact Paper was (RE: Inspection sticker plates (was: anot her coleman thread)) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:18:41 -0400 On that note anyone know where I can get clear contact paper to protect my tank and my car? han -----Original Message----- From: matthew patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:02 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Inspection sticker plates (was: another coleman thread) Simply put a nice patch of clear contact paper on your fork first so the sticker comes off real easy like. then you can yourself move the sticker if you want. At the least, you protect your fork. I have a whole roll of the stuff if anyone wants some. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 11:24:19 2001 Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 08:24:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Cheap (but running) bike wanted.... To: GOINGRIDING@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX I have an online friend selling an '86 VFR 700... Let me know if you're interested & I'll get his info. for you. He's asking $1500, it's stock, and looks pretty damn good! :-) Pic of it here: http://profiles.yahoo.com/bigspeedy66 If we had the $$$, we'd buy it! LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- GOINGRIDING@XXXXXX wrote: > Looking for a cheap, but running bike to tool around > on. Preferably > something sporty like an old EX500, GS500, ZX, etc. > Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 11:55:56 2001 From: Brian Roach To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: NESBA track days at VIR Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 11:54:27 -0400 On Thursday 04 October 2001 09:37, matthew patton wrote: > $150 per day (he does 3 a > year and attendance can be VERY light like yesturday) > and a CCS license is $100 a year. You figure out > NESBA's costs and you'll be bleeding money and you > don't get to have near as much fun. But the pos side > of NESBA is that you get to visit other nearby tracks. Buying a NESBA Membership and pre-registering for their days comes out to about the same. I've found track time to be comparable, but Roger's days this year have been really light on the turnout because of the days he got from the track (middle of the week). The fact that he limits the number of people to 60 is really nice though. > I don't know if I improved my lap times by a whole lot > (no timer) but I got a lot more comfortable on the GS > and worked on my braking, cornering speed, and general > confidence. I still have to learn to relax and put the > weight down in the seat when cornering. If nothing > else I improved remarkably thru turns 6 (still weak) > and 10 which I can take in 5th gear with very small > throttle roll-off prior. Time for a new rear sprocket :) T10 is a 4th gear turn. If you're going through there in 5th you've got to be running out of 6th gear WAY before you get to T1. If not... downshift to 4th for T10, you need a better drive out of the corner and should be red-lining 6th just before you hit the brakes for T1. - Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 12:30:30 2001 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Lock it or lose it Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 12:29:42 -0400 I almost became bikeless last night. About 0100 I'm awakened to the shrill sound of a bike alarm. I wipe the sleep from my eyes and peer outside to find my bike moved about 5', but still upright, on its sidestand. Luckily it was warm last night and we had the windows open. No sign of perps. Obviously someone had made an attempt to a ten-fingered discount on a VFR. Fortunately the disk lock stopped the roll away attempt and alarm scared him/them? off. It's ear-splitting and probably scared the shit out of them when it went off. Lock it or lose it, folks. I guess a heavy-duty chain and a nearby tree are my next security appliances. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 15:43:51 2001 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 15:42:22 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Most excellent carb cleaning website To: Concours Owners Group , Chatty Morons , DC Cycles List Wow! Incredible detail. Connie carbs are similar, lots of good ideas here. I love the "special cleaning tool". :) http://www.gsresources.com/gs_carbrebuild.htm Well worth a look even if you have a slow connection. GS Resources is a great site. Horkster -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 89 of 99 done! Still need US5,8,19,US25,44,69,78,US80,82,US90 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 15:57:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f94Jvgf11848 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Oct 2001 19:57:24 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: RE: Price of tire mounting Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:40:36 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <035e01c14ceb$f746ea90$0200a8c0@PORKER> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Ah, that's it. I don't balance my tires, so I don't need a special adapter. LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner -----Original Message----- From: John R Pierce [mailto:pierce@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:48 AM To: LindaT.; BMW Subject: Re: RE: Price of tire mounting > What special tool? I mounted my last set myself and don't remember any > special tools. I belong to a 'tire co-op' here in DC. We bought a tire > mounting gizmo and I'm fortunate in that it's current home is close by. a special hub adapter is required to spin-balance the rear wheel. thats all. its just an aluminum disk thing that fits the tire balance machine. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 16:04:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10906.mail.yahoo.com (web10906.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f94K4rf11922 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011004200452.22529.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.80.171.28] by web10906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Oct 2001 13:04:52 PDT Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 13:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: John Germuga Subject: Coleman's To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now that most everyone has slammed Coleman's (again!), I have a question. A friend of mine found a 2000 Vulcan 500 at said dealer and since it's a hold over from last year, they were willing to work a bit on price. She really likes the bike and would prefer to get something that is not 'pre-enjoyed'. I am thinking that even though she bought it there, she may be able to have to warranty work done elsewhere and, since were already into the 2002 model year, the price might be right enough to put some reservations about their business practices aside. So my question(s): What would be considered a good price in terms of a percentage discount off MSRP? I am pretty sure there is no reason this can't be done, but can she take it to another dealer for warrenty work, as long as it's a certified Kawasaki dealer? Thanks, John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 17:34:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f94LYHf13278 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id r.ac.1bce731b (15766); Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web40.aolmail.aol.com (web40.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.1]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v81.9) with ESMTP id MAILINID56-1004173352; Thu, 04 Oct 2001 17:33:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 17:33:51 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Coleman's To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Couldn't tell you anything about a good price but, I can answer the second question. Yes. As long as it's a certified dealer, you can take it anywhere to get worked on. Hope this very little bit helps. Someone else will answer your other question I'm sure. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Thu, 4 Oct 2001 4:05:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, John Germuga writes: > Now that most everyone has slammed Coleman's (again!), > I have a question. > > A friend of mine found a 2000 Vulcan 500 at said > dealer and since it's a hold over from last year, they > were willing to work a bit on price. She really likes > the bike and would prefer to get something that is not > 'pre-enjoyed'. > > I am thinking that even though she bought it there, > she may be able to have to warranty work done > elsewhere and, since were already into the 2002 model > year, the price might be right enough to put some > reservations about their business practices aside. > > So my question(s): > > What would be considered a good price in terms of a > percentage discount off MSRP? > > I am pretty sure there is no reason this can't be > done, but can she take it to another dealer for > warrenty work, as long as it's a certified Kawasaki > dealer? > > Thanks, > John > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 18:33:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13304.mail.yahoo.com (web13304.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f94MX0f14154 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 18:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011004223258.28633.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.91.136.250] by web13304.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Oct 2001 15:32:58 PDT Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 15:32:58 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Fwd: Re: AMA Superbike races at Virginia International Raceway To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cbr@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I emailed Speedvision asking when they were going to replay the VIR Superbike race. They are not, but they might IF they get enough responses. That's where you come in!! I emailed . As you can read in my email, I couldn't watch the races since I was at the races, but it sure would be nice to watch every turn. --- Speedvision.CNS@XXXXXX wrote: > From: Speedvision.CNS@XXXXXX > To: stephen cutchins > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:18:44 -0400 > Subject: Re: AMA Superbike races at Virginia > International Raceway > > > > > From: Speedvision@CNS on 10/04/2001 04:18 PM > > Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately, this > episode is not scheduled > to re-air. > I will notify our programming department of your > desire to see this episode > again on the network. They are very interested to > know what our viewers > like, dislike and what they would like to see more > of. > > Thanks for taking the time to write us and for > watching Speedvision! > > Sincerely, > Program Services, > Speedvision Network. > > > |--------+----------------------------> > | | stephen cutchins | > | | | | yahoo.com> | > | | | > | | 10/04/01 03:58 PM | > | | | > |--------+----------------------------> > > >--------------------------------------------------------| > | > | > | To: listings@XXXXXX > | > | cc: (bcc: Speedvision/TRESSER/CNS) > | > | Subject: AMA Superbike races at > Virginia | > | International Raceway > | > > >--------------------------------------------------------| > > > > > > > Hello, > > I missed the broadcast of the AMA Superbike races > from > VIR on Sunday, September 30 (since I was at the > races!) When will these races be re-broadcasted? > > Thank you! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > NEW from Yahoo! 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GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 19:57:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f94Nvaf15429 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cox.rr.com ([24.168.221.109]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:57:24 -0400 Message-ID: <3BBCF80E.898B05FD@cox.rr.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 20:00:14 -0400 From: Do Yin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Coleman's References: <200110042301.f94N1Lu14563@dirty.meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Certified dealer? I thought as long as the work was done, and could be proven, you were OK. > Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 17:33:51 EDT > From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Coleman's > To: > Cc: > > Couldn't tell you anything about a good price but, I can answer the second question. Yes. As long as it's a certified dealer, you can take it anywhere to get worked on. Hope this very little bit helps. Someone else will answer your other question I'm sure. ;-) > > Scooter From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 19:58:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f94Nwaf15441 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:58:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-186-225.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.186.225]) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08649; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 16:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011004195635.00aa9d20@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 19:58:34 -0400 To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011003185240.00a9f4e0@mail.9netave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:01 AM 10/4/01, Sean Jordan wrote: >>Now come on, don't tease -- what was he using? And how did he get that >>high angle on the Duhamel shot? 8;) >> >>Thanks -- Larry > >When I asked him, he replied: > >"I use a Canon D-30 SLR and Canon 100-400L f1:4.5-5.6 IS USM zoom lens. >I'm one of those guys with the white lenses on the black camera >bodies...the mark of a Canon photo nut." Thanks. He's one of "them". (In case anyone doesn't get that, the serious camera world is divided into two camps, a la Ford and Chevy: Canon and Nikon. Like I said, he's one of "them". 8;) ) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 20:03:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95034f15514 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-186-225.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.186.225]) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29686; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 17:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011004200113.00aab100@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 20:02:59 -0400 To: John Germuga , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Coleman's In-Reply-To: <20011004200452.22529.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:04 PM 10/4/01, John Germuga wrote: >A friend of mine found a 2000 Vulcan 500 at said >dealer and since it's a hold over from last year, they >were willing to work a bit on price. She really likes >the bike and would prefer to get something that is not >'pre-enjoyed'. There is something to be said for pre-enjoyed", though. Having put three bikes through their break-in periods in the past 18 months (two of them from Coleman's, I'm sad to say), I'm sick of it. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 21:34:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f951Ybf16758 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO (1Cust189.tnt38.tco2.da.uu.net [63.48.137.189]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f951YYD01480 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 18:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001101c14d3e$0d9eb320$bd89303f@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: O/T - F/S: Toyota Mini Van Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:35:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hey, My company has its own leasing company, and they recently bought a Toyota van so our employees could get to and from work. Now, nearing the end of the agricultural season, they want to sell it. If interested, here is the original text from our Fleet Manager: > -----Original Message----- > From: Preston Leyshon > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:50 AM > To: All Employees > Subject: Van for sale.. > > > CV Leasing Corp, has for sale, a 1995 Toyota Previa mini > van.. All - Trac AWD. > > Kelley Blue book, if you were to purchase, at a dealer $11,980. > Kelley Blue book, if you were to purchase from a private party $9,280 > Chapel Valley Leasing will sell this van for $7,500. > > If sold to VA, it has good state inspection until May 2002. > If sold in MD, we will secure the MD State Inspection > certificate, after a deposit, is made. > > This van can be seen up near the shop, before and after our > Co meeting. > I have the key, if the unit needs to be test driven,,, it > has no tags, so it can't go out on the road. > > Please pass the word, and translate as needed. If interested, please contact Preston directly at pleyshon@XXXXXX. Tell him I told you about this. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 21:58:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14602.mail.yahoo.com (web14602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.82]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f951wWf17163 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 21:58:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011005015827.56183.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.41.24] by web14602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Oct 2001 18:58:27 PDT Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 18:58:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Coleman's To: Do Yin , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3BBCF80E.898B05FD@cox.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the place to look for the answer to these questions is in the warranty that accompanied the bike at issue --- Do Yin wrote: > Certified dealer? I thought as long as the work was > done, and could be > proven, you were OK. > > > > > Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 17:33:51 EDT > > From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Coleman's > > To: > > Cc: > > > > Couldn't tell you anything about a good price but, I > can answer the second question. Yes. As long as it's a > certified dealer, you can take it anywhere to get worked > on. Hope this very little bit helps. Someone else will > answer your other question I'm sure. ;-) -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 22:36:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f952aZf17751 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO (1Cust189.tnt38.tco2.da.uu.net [63.48.137.189]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f952aXD03044 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 19:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000501c14d46$b6529740$bd89303f@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: Wanted to Buy Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 22:37:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hey, With all these people and all these eyes on the list, has anyone in their travels found a dealer with a good selection of new/used four-wheelers (ATVs)? I'd like to get either a new, low-priced entry-level kinda ATV like the Honda Recon, Suzuki LT- or F-250, Yamaha Blaster, Polaris Trail Balzer or Kawasaki Bayou. I'm willing to buy new if I can finance, or used is OK too, maybe it'll afford me a break in price. I know a lot of the selection in the Baltimore-ish areas, but howz 'bout the NOVA/West by-god Virginia areas? Last check showed Ellicott City Motorsports with a few, but mostly land-whale sized hunting/farm utility types. A lot of dealers have those types. I figure end-of-year specials may be going into effect, so now ay be the time. TIA, guys and gals. Howard J. Koontz, in D-mode 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 4 23:30:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.65]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f953Uaf18547 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 23:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-186-225.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.186.225]) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f953UK908183 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2001 20:30:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011004232811.00a9e540@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 23:29:44 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: VIR 600 Supersport race shown Tuesday Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed For whomever asked, the VIR 600 Supersport race is scheduled to be shown on Speedvision at 2pm Tuesday. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 08:01:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95C1Gf26154 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:01:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id IAA17782 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:01:16 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <001d01c14d95$54cc5e30$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" References: <000501c14d46$b6529740$bd89303f@apnHOFOJOKO> Subject: Re: Wanted to Buy Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:00:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Those of you looking for some good deals on new and used motorcycles and / or ATV's check out Blalock Cycle here in Warrenton. They sponsor me in my racing and are good to deal with. Talk to Rick and tell him I sent you. They are a little laid back and don't ever get in a hurry, so patients is good. There service department is excellent! They have hired a whole new service staff that is top notch. The sales person (singular) is Paul and he is pretty good about finding something if they don't have it in stock. Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Wanted to Buy > Hey, > With all these people and all these eyes on the list, has anyone in > their travels found a dealer with a good selection of new/used four-wheelers > (ATVs)? I'd like to get either a new, low-priced entry-level kinda ATV like > the Honda Recon, Suzuki LT- or F-250, Yamaha Blaster, Polaris Trail Balzer > or Kawasaki Bayou. I'm willing to buy new if I can finance, or used is OK > too, maybe it'll afford me a break in price. I know a lot of the selection > in the Baltimore-ish areas, but howz 'bout the NOVA/West by-god Virginia > areas? Last check showed Ellicott City Motorsports with a few, but mostly > land-whale sized hunting/farm utility types. A lot of dealers have those > types. I figure end-of-year specials may be going into effect, so now ay be > the time. TIA, guys and gals. > > Howard J. Koontz, in D-mode > 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard > 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 9/25/01 From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 08:34:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20104.mail.yahoo.com (web20104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f95CY5f26605 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 08:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011005123403.2679.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Oct 2001 05:34:03 PDT Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 05:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: OT: lister who is also Car mechanic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Unfortunately I don't remember his name but he works in Sterling at a Shell gas station if memory serves. I have a truck question. The question is: '90 ford Ranger XLT has *very* audible rocker-like noise. Should I be concerned about it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 09:01:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95D1Bf27075 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:01:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.39]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GKQ00FIGHH9CB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:00:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GKQ00001HH9ZN@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 05 Oct 2001 13:00:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chan3544t ([166.36.153.47]) by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GKQ00036HGUF9@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 05 Oct 2001 13:00:30 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:00:11 -0400 From: Robert Verde Subject: WTB: Forks? Anyone? To: "DC Cycles (E-mail)" Reply-to: c-Robert.Verde@XXXXXX Message-id: <008e01c14d9d$aba0a240$2f9924a6@wcomnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal I have been thinking (again) about doing a front-end swap on my old Interceptor, I'm tired of getting sneered at when I ask for front tires in 16" sizes... 8-] Anyone have a front end from a wrecked/spare bike they're willing to part with? Judging from other projects I've read about, the preferred donor bikes are other Hondas; Hurricane, F2, F3, (F4, RC-51...), but I've also seen good things about the Yamaha FZR1000 forks. Since it's a project, I'm willing to work with what I can get, and any leads on junkyards or other sources would be great. I'm looking for the whole shebang; forks, calipers, wheel, triples, stem, and rotors; a tire I can supply. If you've got just some bits, I'm still interested, but I would prefere the forks and triples/stem together. Not for racing, just to get a 17" front wheel. Figured I'd spam the local list now that winter is coming, someone may be motivated to sell that project bike that's still in pieces from last year... Robert Verde '83 Honda VF750FD (RC-15) "BUDOKA" From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 09:35:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95DZKf27609 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-186-225.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.186.225]) by harrier.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA14119; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 06:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011005093314.00aa4ce0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 09:35:23 -0400 To: stephen cutchins , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Pa Great pictures from the AMA race at VIR In-Reply-To: <20011005125832.55344.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011004195635.00aa9d20@mail.9netave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:58 AM 10/5/01, stephen cutchins wrote: >Canon and Nikon, Ford and Chevy? > >Don't you mean ... Ford and Mercedes?! Shouldn't that dualism more properly be Cosworth and Ilmor? -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 12:37:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95Gbgf00451 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <42J4BF3Q>; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:37:26 -0400 Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666AC54@DCHQCLEXHQ> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'ljtanner@XXXXXX'" Subject: Price of tire mounting Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:39:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain LindaT, the Bionic Bag Biker blurted, "I don't balance my tires, so I don't need a special adapter. When John R Pierce proclaimed, "a special hub adapter is required to spin-balance the rear wheel. thats all. its just an aluminum disk thing that fits the tire balance machine." If static balancing is good enough for racers, it's good enough for me. Fully realizing this is a pearl cast before unbalanced swine :^), it is nevertheless entertaining. Pat Coffee rides an interesting 'Ceptor with a bucket seat around Deal's Gap. For myself, I'll continue to either use two picnic benches or Cycle Accessories Discount in Gaithersburg. From: "p.coffee" Subject: Vibration-Static-Precision Balancing Machine Hear Ye, Hear Ye!! Want a low cost, absolutely guaranteed, no other like it!!! Conceived and developed by OCG No shite!! You want to positively balance with precision your front and rear tires. Then have a look!! And if you act now, The Idea is FREE!!!! http://www.fifedrum.org/tellico/SabMag Carl in Bethesda DEALING WITH OSAMA What to do about Osama bin Laden? The problem is, what do you do with him once he's found? Execute him and he becomes a martyr... Solution: Capture him alive, convict him of his crimes, sentence him to his punishment. What punishment, you ask? Why, a full blown sex change of course! And then send him back to his home in Afghanistan to live out the rest of his life as a woman under the Taliban government.... From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 12:57:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95GvBf00816 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 1.8b.d332278 (15874); Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web34.aolmail.aol.com (web34.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.10]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v81.9) with ESMTP id MAILINID71-1005125704; Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:57:04 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:57:04 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Coleman's To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <8b.d332278.28ef4060@aol.com> Sorry. More like they have to be certified to do warranty work on that particular bike. I guess that would make them a cedrtified mechanic, not a certified dealer. If they aren't certified to do warranty work, then YOU have to pay. Scooter In a message dated Thu, 4 Oct 2001 8:07:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Do Yin writes: > Certified dealer? I thought as long as the work was done, and could be > proven, you were OK. > > > > > Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2001 17:33:51 EDT > > From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Coleman's > > To: > > Cc: > > > > Couldn't tell you anything about a good price but, I can answer the second question. Yes. As long as it's a certified dealer, you can take it anywhere to get worked on. Hope this very little bit helps. Someone else will answer your other question I'm sure. ;-) > > > > Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 13:38:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95Hcsf01415 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:36:20 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF476@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Liberty Ride --- upcoming event Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 13:36:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" http://www.libertyride.com This should be a VERY large ride and it's kinda long from here--- Delaware Memorial Bridge to just outside of NYC. But sounds like fun anyway! Anyone interested in going up there? It's Oct. 21st at noon so leaving DC at maybe 9:30 or 10? I haven't decided 100% if I am going to do this, but if I can find someone to ride up with I'll say OK. -patti From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 14:38:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20110.mail.yahoo.com (web20110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.47]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f95Icjf02423 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 14:38:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011005183844.70830.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 05 Oct 2001 11:38:44 PDT Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 11:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: what happened to Adventure Motorcycle Gear? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii They used to be in Springfield. Nobody has a number for them. They used to carry Givi and Powerbronze fairings and what not. Somewhere I saw a mention of a US company that now imported all UK/EU motorcyle stuff. Anyone got a bookmark? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 15:38:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.macconnect.com ([204.68.168.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f95Jcef03317 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 60833 invoked by uid 0); 5 Oct 2001 19:40:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.136.67.72?) (216.168.226.195) by mail.macconnect.com with SMTP; 5 Oct 2001 19:40:19 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: johnw@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20011005183844.70830.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20011005183844.70830.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:37:49 -0400 To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: John West Subject: Re:what happened to Adventure Motorcycle Gear? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" 800-217-3526 http://www.adventuremotogear.com/ -john At 11:38 AM -0700 10/5/01, matthew patton wrote: >They used to be in Springfield. Nobody has a number >for them. They used to carry Givi and Powerbronze >fairings and what not. Somewhere I saw a mention of a >US company that now imported all UK/EU motorcyle >stuff. Anyone got a bookmark? > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. >http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 15:49:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95Jngf03469 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:49:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:49:00 -0400 Message-Id: <200110051549.AA219414982@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re:what happened to Adventure Motorcycle Gear? X-Mailer: David Cork sells PowerBronze, too. http://www.davidcork.com/ Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: John West Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:37:49 -0400 > >800-217-3526 >http://www.adventuremotogear.com/ > >-john > > >At 11:38 AM -0700 10/5/01, matthew patton wrote: >>They used to be in Springfield. Nobody has a number >>for them. They used to carry Givi and Powerbronze >>fairings and what not. Somewhere I saw a mention of a >>US company that now imported all UK/EU motorcyle >>stuff. Anyone got a bookmark? >> >>__________________________________________________ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. >>http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 18:09:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.140]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95M9jf05587 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:09:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vaio ([24.6.106.133]) by femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011005220938.HNTZ18139.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vaio> for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:09:38 -0700 Message-ID: <003f01c14dea$d3f02020$6401a8c0@Home> From: "James Reazor" To: References: <20011005183844.70830.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: what happened to Adventure Motorcycle Gear? Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:12:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "matthew patton" To: Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: what happened to Adventure Motorcycle Gear? > They used to be in Springfield. Nobody has a number > for them. They used to carry Givi and Powerbronze > fairings and what not. Somewhere I saw a mention of a > US company that now imported all UK/EU motorcyle > stuff. Anyone got a bookmark? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 I just bought the second half of my Bagster from them about a month ago. As always they were very accommodating. AMG's stated purpose is to carry lots of Euro stuff that's tough to get in the States. I'm seriously considering a pair of IXS boots from them. Don't have the phone number but try http://www.adventuremotogear.com/ BTW: Riders of the fairer sex may want to check out http://ladyriderswear.com/ as it's owned by the same folks. -James '00 SV650 From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 18:42:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95Mg6f06082 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-186-225.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.186.225]) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17427; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 15:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011005184044.00aa5260@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 18:42:10 -0400 To: "Custer, Carl" , "'DCCycles'" From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Price of tire mounting Cc: "'ljtanner@XXXXXX'" In-Reply-To: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666AC54@DCHQCLEXHQ> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:39 PM 10/5/01, Custer, Carl wrote: >If static balancing is good enough for racers, it's good enough for me. Car racers *always* dynamic balance. I'm not a bike racer, but I can't imagine being less demanding about a bike than a racecar. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 19:04:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com [207.46.181.84]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95N4Xf06393 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.22.25.54]) by cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Fri, 5 Oct 2001 16:03:45 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:04:15 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862104E2@CWDEXCH0> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Oct 2001 23:03:49.0148 (UTC) FILETIME=[FE450DC0:01C14DF1] Why is it that so many bikers hate Poweride and they are still in business? Ricardo From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 19:49:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f95Nnrf07094 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 2.d7.d09dcd2 (3999) for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:49:40 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:49:40 EDT Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/5/2001 7:05:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ricardopontes@XXXXXX writes: > Why is it that so many bikers hate Poweride and they are still in business? So few bikers. So many posers. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 21:26:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f961QNf08488 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-186-225.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.186.225]) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23973; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011005211539.00aa1a20@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 21:26:24 -0400 To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:49 PM 10/5/01, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: >In a message dated 10/5/2001 7:05:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >ricardopontes@XXXXXX writes: > > > Why is it that so many bikers hate Poweride and they are still in business? > >So few bikers. So many posers. Aaah, I see. What kind of rider you are is determined not by how, where, or when you ride, but by where you bought your bike. Now I get it. 8;) Not. Powerride has some redeeming features: they're relatively near Metro, not out in Bumphuc, Egypt; they've done an alright job in setting up every bike I've bought and heard of delivered from them; and they've sold me my bikes for prices that were acceptable to me. Balanced against that, they take forever to get parts, they don't do any more than you pay them to do, their sales staff doesn't know squat, and their parts and accessories prices are absolutely ridiculous. Based on all that, I'm still not going to buy machines in West-by-god-Virginia to save $200, simply because I'm not going out there for service either, and the cost of getting there and back negates the price advantage. I just hope that by the time I'm ready for my next rice burner all you folks are singing the praises of the Motorcycle Factory. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 21:55:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f961t3f08938 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:55:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.42.223.187]) by cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:54:19 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: helmet question Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2001 21:54:54 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Oct 2001 01:54:20.0778 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0CBE4A0:01C14E09] Im considering buying another helmet. My current helmet, a shoei rf800 does not have any ventilation. It has 2 ports that let air in, but it really gets hot. I am considering buying another that lets more air in to make it a bit cooler. Anyone have any suggestions. I like how arai's look, but they a bit expensive. Ricardo From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 5 22:33:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.49]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f962Xef09523 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 22:33:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-186-225.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.186.225]) by scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14006; Fri, 5 Oct 2001 19:33:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011005223029.00a956b0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 22:33:30 -0400 To: "Ricardo Pontes" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: helmet question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:54 PM 10/5/01, Ricardo wrote: >I am considering buying another that lets more air in to make it a bit >cooler. Anyone have any suggestions. I like how arai's look, but they a bit >expensive. For warm weather, I love my Nolan 100. The venting works great, in addition to having the raisable chinbar for stops, etc. It's as comfortable as my Arai Quantum F, but a bit noisier, for half the price. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 6 11:50:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20110.mail.yahoo.com (web20110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.47]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f96Foaf23232 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 11:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011006155035.84041.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.252.8.97] by web20110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 06 Oct 2001 08:50:35 PDT Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 08:50:35 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: need help on 1/4 throttle bobble To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii can anyone shed some light on why my GS utterly sputters and coughs and about rolls over and dies at 1/4 throttle to 1/2 throttle when I open the throttle from 0 to any position between those 2 marks? the full throttle and < 1/4 operation seem to be just fine. are my needles too high? too low? I have 125 mains (1 size up) and a K&N pod filter on it at the moment. but it'll do the same thing with the stock air-box. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 6 13:54:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f96Hs8f24923 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 13:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f96Hrjn03295; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 13:53:45 -0400 From: Brian Roach Reply-To: roach@XXXXXX To: Larry Larson , PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 13:53:22 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011005211539.00aa1a20@mail.9netave.com> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011005211539.00aa1a20@mail.9netave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01100613532200.07225@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit They operate using the same model that most "SuperStores" do. You can pretty much go to any web site, or any small DC area computer retailer and get better prices, service, and support than CompUsa (Or "CompUseless" as most geeks refer to them). So how do they stay in business? *marketing and appearance*. They're BIG. Americans like big ... it's a social phenom here in the US. They market as though they have the best prices... and against other people who send out mailers in the Sunday paper, they do. And the biggest one... the uninformed don't know any better. In other words, ignorance is bliss. And for most of the consumer sheep in America, that's good enough. Which is really sad, IMHO. As an IT professional, I can't STAND going to CompUSA - if I have any questions, I'm hosed - I aready know more than the sales drone - and god forbid I want to look at the manual for a piece of hardware if the drone can't answer the question - they won't get one for you. I've had similar experiences with BestBuy - I was buying an under-cabinet microwave and just wanted to know if everything was in the box for mounting it, or if I had to buy a mounting kit. In short, the answer was "We don't know, and no you can't open the box to find out." After trying to get SOMEONE to answer the question for 20 minutes, finally I ended up opening a box myself when no one was looking... because I didn't want to drive somewhere else. If my principles were turned on that day, I should have gone somewhere else... but I didn't, and that seems to be what these places are betting on - once you're there, even if they suck, you won't go somewhere else if they have the product you're looking to buy. Coleman (powerride, whatever) seems to operate in the same way... they keep the customers who come in, buy things, and don't ask questions. They even keep some customers who aren't completely satisfied. They also get new buyers because of their location and selection. I bought a jug of two-stroke oil there last year... because I needed some on a Sunday, and they were the only place open. I still feel dirty about it :) - Roach On Friday 05 October 2001 21:26, Larry Larson wrote: > At 07:49 PM 10/5/01, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > >In a message dated 10/5/2001 7:05:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > > >ricardopontes@XXXXXX writes: > > > Why is it that so many bikers hate Poweride and they are still in > > > business? > Not. Powerride has some redeeming features: they're relatively near Metro, > not out in Bumphuc, Egypt; they've done an alright job in setting up every > bike I've bought and heard of delivered from them; and they've sold me my > bikes for prices that were acceptable to me. From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 6 14:35:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f96IZ9f25554 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUcTUxlPICnesHW3TBMlxR7Q=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GG4BTF4R; Sat, 06 Oct 2001 14:35:07 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:30:58 -0400 Subject: Looking for Rob Curtis Message-ID: <20011006.143058.-355159.3.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-5 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Rob, Please contact me. If anyone has his email or phone #, please contact me. Thanks, Tom (703) 670-5525 From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 6 14:45:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f96Ijsf25698 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id 2.11a.5171c52 (18405) for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:45:42 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <11a.5171c52.28f0ab56@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 14:45:42 EDT Subject: Re: Question on Coleman PowerRide To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/5/2001 9:26:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pltrgyst@XXXXXX writes: > >So few bikers. So many posers. > > Aaah, I see. What kind of rider you are is determined not by how, where, > or when you ride, but by where you bought your bike. Not what I said. READ, Understand, Then respond. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 6 17:47:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([63.218.228.98]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f96LlKf28290 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 17:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iguana.wheatintl.com (iguana [63.218.228.106]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f96LlLm07783 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 17:47:21 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011006174502.02985c70@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 17:47:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: OT - TH Sale Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sorry for the OT post, but I need to get this thing sold so I can move into a house we have found. If anyone is looking for a nice, convenient TH, please have a look: http://www.troutman.org/sales/ Thanks! Moto : Have to move my bike and associated stuff to a friend's house for a couple weeks while the house is on the market. Opens up the parking spots and clears out a lot of closet space. Too bad - this is the best time of year to ride. ______________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org It's lonely at the top, but you eat better From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 6 18:10:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f96MArf28568 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 18:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f96MAmn03556; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 18:10:48 -0400 From: laura granato To: Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: OT - TH Sale Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 18:10:25 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011006174502.02985c70@mail.troutman.org> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011006174502.02985c70@mail.troutman.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01100618102507.05124@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Saturday 06 October 2001 17:47, Troutman wrote: > Sorry for the OT post, but I need to get this thing sold so I can move into > a house we have found. If anyone is looking for a nice, convenient TH, > please have a look: > > http://www.troutman.org/sales/ > > Thanks! > > Moto : Have to move my bike and associated stuff to a friend's house for a > couple weeks while the house is on the market. Opens up the parking spots > and clears out a lot of closet space. Too bad - this is the best time of > year to ride. My house is next to troutman's and I've been in it. It's a *great* house (not as good as mine, of course. LOL! just kidding) It's a great neighborhood and Troutman's house is very well kept. Nice floorplan, too. Check it out if you're thinking about buying. Laura From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 6 20:38:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f970ccf00869 for ; Sat, 6 Oct 2001 20:38:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cox.rr.com ([24.168.221.109]) by mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 6 Oct 2001 20:22:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3BBFA0EB.FC7562B7@cox.rr.com> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 20:25:15 -0400 From: Do Yin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: OT - TH Sale References: <200110062300.f96N0CG29283@dirty.meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Too bad it doesn't have a garage, otherwise I'd be signing the papers today. :) Anybody know what the market is now for TH/homes in NoVA? buyer's market? seller's market? > X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX > Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 17:47:17 -0400 > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > From: Troutman > Subject: OT - TH Sale > > Sorry for the OT post, but I need to get this thing sold so I can move into > a house we have found. If anyone is looking for a nice, convenient TH, > please have a look: > > http://www.troutman.org/sales/ > > Thanks! > > Moto : Have to move my bike and associated stuff to a friend's house for a > couple weeks while the house is on the market. Opens up the parking spots > and clears out a lot of closet space. Too bad - this is the best time of > year to ride. > > ______________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > It's lonely at the top, but you eat better > From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 7 23:42:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f983gEf24997 for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server ([66.61.183.98]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:42:13 -0400 Message-ID: <002501c14fab$0c0f0f40$62b73d42@cox.rr.com> From: "Guiseppi Milano" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: The Pentagon ride Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:40:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C14F89.83D0D620" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C14F89.83D0D620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does any one know why we were diverted from going around the pentagon to = going up through DC also dose anyone know how many bikes were involved = it looked to be over a thousand to me.? 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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C14F89.83D0D620-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 08:08:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13005.mail.yahoo.com (web13005.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f98C8Mf02869 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011008120821.15648.qmail@web13005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.148.72.114] by web13005.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 05:08:21 PDT Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 05:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: The Pentagon ride To: Guiseppi Milano , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <002501c14fab$0c0f0f40$62b73d42@cox.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Guiseppi Milano wrote: > Does any one know why we were diverted from going around the pentagon to > going up through DC also dose anyone know how many bikes were involved it > looked to be over a thousand to me.? > > Z Which Pentagon ride? There were apparently a few of them. I was in the one that left from Ft. Washington. The flyer said that we would "exit onto 395 and parade past the Pentagon." That's exactly what we did, passing the Pentagon while on 395, then entering DC. With all the security and the fact that it's still a crime scene and all, I doubt they'd want hundreds or thousands of motorcycles going into the parking lot where they can't keep an eye on every single person. My group split out from the ride after passing the Pentagon, so I don't know if they made any announcement about numbers (of riders or funds raised). We probably didn't make a lot of car drivers too happy though. We circled the beltway from Indian Head Highway, all the way around 495 (the long way) to 395, the whole time we were in the second lane from the left. That left two lanes on the right for all the traffic. When people would cut over to the left, the police would either pull them over and make them wait, or send them back over to the right. A lot of drivers were supportived, but several were extremely pissed. My only guess as to why the police kept the left most lane clear is in case they needed an emergency vehicle (i.e. ambulance) to get through. As for how many people, I'm not good at guessing. When I did the Ride 4 Kids, I thought about 1,500 bikes, but there were actually only 750 or so. This ride looked like it was maybe a little bit bigger. Anyway, the ride definitely felt good to do. Any of you folks do the ride from Battery/Rockville? How was that? Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 09:23:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f106.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.106]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f98DNxf04073 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 06:12:11 -0700 Received: from 209.244.80.199 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:12:10 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.80.199] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: The Pentagon ride Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:12:10 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2001 13:12:11.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6FDCC60:01C14FFA] I joined the crew at Battley's on the chilly morning. (37 on the VFR dash) Mental note: when in doubt....plug in! LOL But it was all good with layers. With all the other rides going on, we had a much smaller group (guess around 40 total). Thanks to Jimmy and Kenny (I think) for not letting me be the only sport bike in the crowd! :) The dealership was open when we got there to warm up, have some coffee, meet and greet. We lined up, hit the road on a nice,slow paced ride down GWP to Mt. Vernon. (Excellent job on the police escort through Old Towne) That'll spoil any biker very quickly! We hung out for a while, took a bunch of pictures, and then grouped back up for the ride North. When we exited GWP onto the Inner Loop, we saw your parade of bikes coming across the American Legion on the Outer Loop. What a cool site that was! It looked like you had quite the crowd. All in all, I had a great time. Nice to meet so many other riders in the area, and to raise money for a good cause. Thanks to David for organizing it. Hopefully the pics will be developed soon. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Louis F. Caplan" To: Guiseppi Milano , DC Cycles Subject: Re: The Pentagon ride Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 05:08:21 -0700 (PDT) --- Guiseppi Milano wrote: > Does any one know why we were diverted from going around the pentagon to > going up through DC also dose anyone know how many bikes were involved it > looked to be over a thousand to me.? > > Z Which Pentagon ride? There were apparently a few of them. I was in the one that left from Ft. Washington. The flyer said that we would "exit onto 395 and parade past the Pentagon." That's exactly what we did, passing the Pentagon while on 395, then entering DC. With all the security and the fact that it's still a crime scene and all, I doubt they'd want hundreds or thousands of motorcycles going into the parking lot where they can't keep an eye on every single person. My group split out from the ride after passing the Pentagon, so I don't know if they made any announcement about numbers (of riders or funds raised). We probably didn't make a lot of car drivers too happy though. We circled the beltway from Indian Head Highway, all the way around 495 (the long way) to 395, the whole time we were in the second lane from the left. That left two lanes on the right for all the traffic. When people would cut over to the left, the police would either pull them over and make them wait, or send them back over to the right. A lot of drivers were supportived, but several were extremely pissed. My only guess as to why the police kept the left most lane clear is in case they needed an emergency vehicle (i.e. ambulance) to get through. As for how many people, I'm not good at guessing. When I did the Ride 4 Kids, I thought about 1,500 bikes, but there were actually only 750 or so. This ride looked like it was maybe a little bit bigger. Anyway, the ride definitely felt good to do. Any of you folks do the ride from Battery/Rockville? How was that? Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 09:48:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe73.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.57]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f98Dmof04464 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 06:37:35 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.101.141.139] From: "Greg Thompson" To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: wind chill Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:37:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2001 13:37:35.0342 (UTC) FILETIME=[638AE8E0:01C14FFE] the ride in this morning reminded me that i haven't really addressed the whole cold weather riding gear thing. if i could ride with both of my hands wedged between the engine and airbox i'd be fine, but i don't trust throttle locks enough to free up my right hand. so anyway, any recommendations for cold weather gloves, or perhaps really thin but affective liners to wear under normal gloves? how about thin balaclava type things for me cold head? i tried on a fleece one a few months ago, but there was no chance i could pull my helmet on overtop of it. thanks. -- -greg From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 10:10:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f98EA2f04819 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-120-102.s610.tnt9.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.120.102] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15qb6W-0002to-00; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:10:00 -0400 Message-ID: <002201c15003$2c5868c0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Greg Thompson" , "D.C.Cycles-L" References: Subject: Re: wind chill Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:11:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I just completed a three-day romp through the highlands of Virginia and West Virginia. Friday was great with temps in the 70s and 80s, but I don't think it cracked 50 Saturday or Sunday. Saturday began with a cold drizzle and we awoke Sunday to heavy frost. In answer to your question, at certain point insulation is only going to do so much for you, especially if you don't have a full-fledged touring rig with a huge fairing and windshield. On a bike like the VFR, with its moderate wind protection, you have to generate heat with electricity. I really like my heated gloves and jacket liner from Gerbings. I rode with those most of the weekend and stayed very warm, while my riding companions shivered under every piece of clothing they had. I've ridden for hours in the 20s and 30s with the heated clothing. I like them so much I'm probably going to spring for heated socks this year. The Gerbing setup is not cheap, but worth it in my book. Widder makes comparable products. I can ride year round without worries and within having umpty-ump layers under my Aerostich or leathers. I find my helmet to be very warm, as long as I keep the wind from blowing in under my chin. I have a large fleece neck warmer that does the job. Other folks really like the NOJ Quiet Rider to block the wind. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Thompson > the ride in this morning reminded me that i haven't really addressed the > whole cold weather riding gear thing. if i could ride with both of my hands > wedged between the engine and airbox i'd be fine, but i don't trust throttle > locks enough to free up my right hand. > > so anyway, any recommendations for cold weather gloves, or perhaps really > thin but affective liners to wear under normal gloves? > > how about thin balaclava type things for me cold head? i tried on a fleece > one a few months ago, but there was no chance i could pull my helmet on > overtop of it. > > thanks. > -- > -greg From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 10:16:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9601.mail.yahoo.com (web9601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.180]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f98EGmf04953 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:16:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011008141647.63201.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 07:16:47 PDT Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 07:16:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: wind chill To: Paul Wilson , Greg Thompson , "D.C.Cycles-L" In-Reply-To: <002201c15003$2c5868c0$bb82fea9@palladio1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I agree, Gerbing is amazing. I rode all winter my first year riding using them. People would look at me like I was INSANE while they trudged along in their heavy winter coats. Little did they know that I was much warmer than they were. You feel like you're under a mobile electric blanket! mmmmmmmmm - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Paul Wilson wrote: On a bike > like the VFR, with its moderate wind protection, you > have to generate heat > with electricity. I really like my heated gloves > and jacket liner from > Gerbings. I rode with those most of the weekend and > stayed very warm, while > my riding companions shivered under every piece of > clothing they had. I've > ridden for hours in the 20s and 30s with the heated > clothing. I like them > so much I'm probably going to spring for heated > socks this year. > > The Gerbing setup is not cheap, but worth it in my > book. Widder makes > comparable products. I can ride year round without > worries and within > having umpty-ump layers under my Aerostich or > leathers. I find my helmet to > be very warm, as long as I keep the wind from > blowing in under my chin. I > have a large fleece neck warmer that does the job. > Other folks really like > the NOJ Quiet Rider to block the wind. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750F > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 10:24:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f98EO2f05055 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:22:33 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:29:52 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: FS 2001 FZ1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f98EO4f05056 Hey Everyone, I have a 2001 Yamaha FZ1 for sale. $ 7400 or Best offer. 1800 miles. Perfect cond Yamaha GYTR aluminun Slip-on Yamaha GYTR lower bar mounts Ermax painted rear Hugger Shop manual (still on order, but paid for you can have it when it comes in) Interested parties can call me @ 301-523-4161 or email Regards, George Cole George M Cole Technology Consultant Boise Technology 301-523-4161 FAX 1-888-240-3154 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 11:13:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f98FDQf05845 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:13:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp02.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.37]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GKW004DY7LQWY@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:13:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp02.wcomnet.com by pmismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42259) with SMTP id <0GKW005017LFZK@XXXXXX>; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:13:02 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42259) with ESMTP id <0GKW005867LEC8@XXXXXX>; Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:12:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:12:37 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: wind chill To: Jeannette Cc: Paul Wilson , Greg Thompson , "D.C.Cycles-L" Message-id: <3BC1C265.FF01F24F@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20011008141647.63201.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com> Jeannette wrote: > > I agree, Gerbing is amazing. I rode all winter my > first year riding using them. People would look at me > like I was INSANE while they trudged along in their > heavy winter coats. Little did they know that I was > much warmer than they were. I had a similar discussion with a coworker last winter. Told him my jacket heated up much quicker than the heater in his car did. He walked away muttering. Bet the next time he started up his car and sat there shivering waiting for the warmth he was hating me big time. :) Horkster -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 89 of 99 done! Still need US5,8,19,US25,44,69,78,US80,82,US90 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 14:29:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.kivex.com (smtp-out.kivex.com [204.177.32.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f98ITwf08870 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:29:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kawgirl (kawgirl.kivex.com [208.213.150.18]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id OAA29242 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:29:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl To: dccycles Subject: go karts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII www.allsportsgp.com Hey, I went to the go kart place near Dulles yesterday, loved it! I want to get a group together to go there next Saturday night. Does anyone know how busy or crowded it will be around 5 or 6 pm on a Saturday? Lisa '95 VFR, drove the cage today, no traffic and free parking. From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 18:18:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com [207.46.181.84]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f98MIif12517 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.22.11.187]) by cpimssmtpu09.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:17:59 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" , "Greg Thompson" Subject: RE: wind chill Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:18:34 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2001 22:18:00.0436 (UTC) FILETIME=[17262340:01C15047] Greg, Go to Bobs bmw, they will hook you up with heated clothing. Why wear multiple bulky layers when you can have a thin super hot vest that will heat your whole body. Today i rode with my heat vest and heat arm chaps and tshirt and jacket. If you get the vest from widder, you can then attack electric gloves from it. Much better than heated grips. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Thompson [mailto:johnnyteardrop@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 9:38 AM To: D.C.Cycles-L Subject: wind chill the ride in this morning reminded me that i haven't really addressed the whole cold weather riding gear thing. if i could ride with both of my hands wedged between the engine and airbox i'd be fine, but i don't trust throttle locks enough to free up my right hand. so anyway, any recommendations for cold weather gloves, or perhaps really thin but affective liners to wear under normal gloves? how about thin balaclava type things for me cold head? i tried on a fleece one a few months ago, but there was no chance i could pull my helmet on overtop of it. Go to performance bike (www.performancebike.com) and order a balaclava, they have very thin warm ones you can wear. That is what i use, and it works fine. Even thou my helmet is pretty tight it fits fine. Ricardo From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 20:42:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f990gtf14839 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 20:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2001 00:42:43 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: RE: wind chill Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 20:41:55 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal I purchased hand-grip warmers from Aerostich last year and they have served me very well since. I've had them on the "low" heat position over the last few days and it works great with my semi-cold-weather gloves. The BMW ones cost around $200. The ones from Aerostich are now $37 + shipping etc. I figured its a good deal. Not too difficult to install either. I also have their Unobtanium electric vest. Real nice. http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store Niv BMW F650ST with warm hands _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 8 21:01:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f139.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.139]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9911Rf15127 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 21:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:01:20 -0700 Received: from 24.4.252.26 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 01:01:20 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.252.26] From: "Jay Block" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 10/08/01 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 21:01:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2001 01:01:20.0744 (UTC) FILETIME=[E8967680:01C1505D] I am all for Gerbing too. I have a full set of Widder that I started out with, now it is for passengers. The great thing about the Gerbing is that it is full-sleeved and you can zip the neck up high enough that there is little exposure to the wind. I like the thin vest so I can wear my leather over it. Also the thin chaps fit under my Motor Corps pants so, in a parade, I can keep warm and still look cool. Also Gerbing has a dual controller so your passenger can crank it up while you keep comfortably warm. (This is an unpaid endorsement though I do know the local guy who sells the suits at events. Why pay retail or for the Harley logo when you can get them properly sized.) Jay From: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) Reply-To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 10/08/01 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 19:01:21 -0400 (EDT) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Guiseppi Milano" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: The Pentagon ride Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 23:40:58 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C14F89.83D0D620 Does any one know why we were diverted from going around the pentagon to = going up through DC also dose anyone know how many bikes were involved = it looked to be over a thousand to me.? 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Does any one know why we were diverted = from going=20 around the pentagon to going up through DC also dose anyone know how = many bikes=20 were involved it looked to be over a thousand to me.?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C14F89.83D0D620-- _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 05:08:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: The Pentagon ride To: Guiseppi Milano , DC Cycles --- Guiseppi Milano wrote: > Does any one know why we were diverted from going around the pentagon to > going up through DC also dose anyone know how many bikes were involved it > looked to be over a thousand to me.? > > Z Which Pentagon ride? There were apparently a few of them. I was in the one that left from Ft. Washington. The flyer said that we would "exit onto 395 and parade past the Pentagon." That's exactly what we did, passing the Pentagon while on 395, then entering DC. With all the security and the fact that it's still a crime scene and all, I doubt they'd want hundreds or thousands of motorcycles going into the parking lot where they can't keep an eye on every single person. My group split out from the ride after passing the Pentagon, so I don't know if they made any announcement about numbers (of riders or funds raised). We probably didn't make a lot of car drivers too happy though. We circled the beltway from Indian Head Highway, all the way around 495 (the long way) to 395, the whole time we were in the second lane from the left. That left two lanes on the right for all the traffic. When people would cut over to the left, the police would either pull them over and make them wait, or send them back over to the right. A lot of drivers were supportived, but several were extremely pissed. My only guess as to why the police kept the left most lane clear is in case they needed an emergency vehicle (i.e. ambulance) to get through. As for how many people, I'm not good at guessing. When I did the Ride 4 Kids, I thought about 1,500 bikes, but there were actually only 750 or so. This ride looked like it was maybe a little bit bigger. Anyway, the ride definitely felt good to do. Any of you folks do the ride from Battery/Rockville? How was that? Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Originating-IP: [209.244.80.199] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: The Pentagon ride Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:12:10 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2001 13:12:11.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6FDCC60:01C14FFA] I joined the crew at Battley's on the chilly morning. (37 on the VFR dash) Mental note: when in doubt....plug in! LOL But it was all good with layers. With all the other rides going on, we had a much smaller group (guess around 40 total). Thanks to Jimmy and Kenny (I think) for not letting me be the only sport bike in the crowd! :) The dealership was open when we got there to warm up, have some coffee, meet and greet. We lined up, hit the road on a nice,slow paced ride down GWP to Mt. Vernon. (Excellent job on the police escort through Old Towne) That'll spoil any biker very quickly! We hung out for a while, took a bunch of pictures, and then grouped back up for the ride North. When we exited GWP onto the Inner Loop, we saw your parade of bikes coming across the American Legion on the Outer Loop. What a cool site that was! It looked like you had quite the crowd. All in all, I had a great time. Nice to meet so many other riders in the area, and to raise money for a good cause. Thanks to David for organizing it. Hopefully the pics will be developed soon. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Louis F. Caplan" To: Guiseppi Milano , DC Cycles Subject: Re: The Pentagon ride Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 05:08:21 -0700 (PDT) --- Guiseppi Milano wrote: > Does any one know why we were diverted from going around the pentagon to > going up through DC also dose anyone know how many bikes were involved it > looked to be over a thousand to me.? > > Z Which Pentagon ride? There were apparently a few of them. I was in the one that left from Ft. Washington. The flyer said that we would "exit onto 395 and parade past the Pentagon." That's exactly what we did, passing the Pentagon while on 395, then entering DC. With all the security and the fact that it's still a crime scene and all, I doubt they'd want hundreds or thousands of motorcycles going into the parking lot where they can't keep an eye on every single person. My group split out from the ride after passing the Pentagon, so I don't know if they made any announcement about numbers (of riders or funds raised). We probably didn't make a lot of car drivers too happy though. We circled the beltway from Indian Head Highway, all the way around 495 (the long way) to 395, the whole time we were in the second lane from the left. That left two lanes on the right for all the traffic. When people would cut over to the left, the police would either pull them over and make them wait, or send them back over to the right. A lot of drivers were supportived, but several were extremely pissed. My only guess as to why the police kept the left most lane clear is in case they needed an emergency vehicle (i.e. ambulance) to get through. As for how many people, I'm not good at guessing. When I did the Ride 4 Kids, I thought about 1,500 bikes, but there were actually only 750 or so. This ride looked like it was maybe a little bit bigger. Anyway, the ride definitely felt good to do. Any of you folks do the ride from Battery/Rockville? How was that? Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) X-Originating-IP: [209.101.141.139] From: "Greg Thompson" To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: wind chill Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:37:34 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2001 13:37:35.0342 (UTC) FILETIME=[638AE8E0:01C14FFE] the ride in this morning reminded me that i haven't really addressed the whole cold weather riding gear thing. if i could ride with both of my hands wedged between the engine and airbox i'd be fine, but i don't trust throttle locks enough to free up my right hand. so anyway, any recommendations for cold weather gloves, or perhaps really thin but affective liners to wear under normal gloves? how about thin balaclava type things for me cold head? i tried on a fleece one a few months ago, but there was no chance i could pull my helmet on overtop of it. thanks. -- -greg _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Greg Thompson" , "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: Re: wind chill Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:11:45 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I just completed a three-day romp through the highlands of Virginia and West Virginia. Friday was great with temps in the 70s and 80s, but I don't think it cracked 50 Saturday or Sunday. Saturday began with a cold drizzle and we awoke Sunday to heavy frost. In answer to your question, at certain point insulation is only going to do so much for you, especially if you don't have a full-fledged touring rig with a huge fairing and windshield. On a bike like the VFR, with its moderate wind protection, you have to generate heat with electricity. I really like my heated gloves and jacket liner from Gerbings. I rode with those most of the weekend and stayed very warm, while my riding companions shivered under every piece of clothing they had. I've ridden for hours in the 20s and 30s with the heated clothing. I like them so much I'm probably going to spring for heated socks this year. The Gerbing setup is not cheap, but worth it in my book. Widder makes comparable products. I can ride year round without worries and within having umpty-ump layers under my Aerostich or leathers. I find my helmet to be very warm, as long as I keep the wind from blowing in under my chin. I have a large fleece neck warmer that does the job. Other folks really like the NOJ Quiet Rider to block the wind. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Thompson > the ride in this morning reminded me that i haven't really addressed the > whole cold weather riding gear thing. if i could ride with both of my hands > wedged between the engine and airbox i'd be fine, but i don't trust throttle > locks enough to free up my right hand. > > so anyway, any recommendations for cold weather gloves, or perhaps really > thin but affective liners to wear under normal gloves? > > how about thin balaclava type things for me cold head? i tried on a fleece > one a few months ago, but there was no chance i could pull my helmet on > overtop of it. > > thanks. > -- > -greg _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 07:16:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: wind chill To: Paul Wilson , Greg Thompson , "D.C.Cycles-L" I agree, Gerbing is amazing. I rode all winter my first year riding using them. People would look at me like I was INSANE while they trudged along in their heavy winter coats. Little did they know that I was much warmer than they were. You feel like you're under a mobile electric blanket! mmmmmmmmm - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Paul Wilson wrote: On a bike > like the VFR, with its moderate wind protection, you > have to generate heat > with electricity. I really like my heated gloves > and jacket liner from > Gerbings. I rode with those most of the weekend and > stayed very warm, while > my riding companions shivered under every piece of > clothing they had. I've > ridden for hours in the 20s and 30s with the heated > clothing. I like them > so much I'm probably going to spring for heated > socks this year. > > The Gerbing setup is not cheap, but worth it in my > book. Widder makes > comparable products. I can ride year round without > worries and within > having umpty-ump layers under my Aerostich or > leathers. I find my helmet to > be very warm, as long as I keep the wind from > blowing in under my chin. I > have a large fleece neck warmer that does the job. > Other folks really like > the NOJ Quiet Rider to block the wind. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750F > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:29:52 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: FS 2001 FZ1 Content-Disposition: inline X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f98EO4f05056 Hey Everyone, I have a 2001 Yamaha FZ1 for sale. $ 7400 or Best offer. 1800 miles. Perfect cond Yamaha GYTR aluminun Slip-on Yamaha GYTR lower bar mounts Ermax painted rear Hugger Shop manual (still on order, but paid for you can have it when it comes in) Interested parties can call me @ 301-523-4161 or email Regards, George Cole George M Cole Technology Consultant Boise Technology 301-523-4161 FAX 1-888-240-3154 _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:12:37 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: wind chill To: Jeannette Cc: Paul Wilson , Greg Thompson , "D.C.Cycles-L" X-Accept-Language: en Jeannette wrote: > > I agree, Gerbing is amazing. I rode all winter my > first year riding using them. People would look at me > like I was INSANE while they trudged along in their > heavy winter coats. Little did they know that I was > much warmer than they were. I had a similar discussion with a coworker last winter. Told him my jacket heated up much quicker than the heater in his car did. He walked away muttering. Bet the next time he started up his car and sat there shivering waiting for the warmth he was hating me big time. :) Horkster -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 89 of 99 done! Still need US5,8,19,US25,44,69,78,US80,82,US90 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:29:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl To: dccycles Subject: go karts www.allsportsgp.com Hey, I went to the go kart place near Dulles yesterday, loved it! I want to get a group together to go there next Saturday night. Does anyone know how busy or crowded it will be around 5 or 6 pm on a Saturday? Lisa '95 VFR, drove the cage today, no traffic and free parking. _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" , "Greg Thompson" Subject: RE: wind chill Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 18:18:34 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2001 22:18:00.0436 (UTC) FILETIME=[17262340:01C15047] Greg, Go to Bobs bmw, they will hook you up with heated clothing. Why wear multiple bulky layers when you can have a thin super hot vest that will heat your whole body. Today i rode with my heat vest and heat arm chaps and tshirt and jacket. If you get the vest from widder, you can then attack electric gloves from it. Much better than heated grips. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Thompson [mailto:johnnyteardrop@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 9:38 AM To: D.C.Cycles-L Subject: wind chill the ride in this morning reminded me that i haven't really addressed the whole cold weather riding gear thing. if i could ride with both of my hands wedged between the engine and airbox i'd be fine, but i don't trust throttle locks enough to free up my right hand. so anyway, any recommendations for cold weather gloves, or perhaps really thin but affective liners to wear under normal gloves? how about thin balaclava type things for me cold head? i tried on a fleece one a few months ago, but there was no chance i could pull my helmet on overtop of it. Go to performance bike (www.performancebike.com) and order a balaclava, they have very thin warm ones you can wear. That is what i use, and it works fine. Even thou my helmet is pretty tight it fits fine. Ricardo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 06:28:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail28.sdc1.sfba.home.com (imail@XXXXXX [24.254.60.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99ASYf23479 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:28:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj33046b ([24.13.248.105]) by femail28.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011009102832.EYTP17980.femail28.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj33046b>; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 03:28:32 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c150ad$3314f3e0$69f80d18@cj33046b> Reply-To: "Richard L. Casale" From: "Richard L. Casale" To: "rdrdr" , "D.C.Cycles-L" References: Subject: Re: wind chill Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:28:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Does the back of your hands get cold at all or does the heat actually permeate your whole hand. I was told by another lister that his heated grips tend to only warm the inside of his hand, but his knuckles and top of his hand were still VERY cold. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rdrdr" To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 8:41 PM Subject: RE: wind chill > I purchased hand-grip warmers from Aerostich last year and they have served > me very well since. I've had them on the "low" heat position over the last > few days and it works great with my semi-cold-weather gloves. The BMW ones > cost around $200. The ones from Aerostich are now $37 + shipping etc. I > figured its a good deal. Not too difficult to install either. > I also have their Unobtanium electric vest. Real nice. > > http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store > > > Niv > BMW F650ST > with warm hands > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 08:27:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9602.mail.yahoo.com (web9602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.181]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99CRef25254 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009122739.34193.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 05:27:39 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 05:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: wind chill To: "Richard L. Casale" , rdrdr , "D.C.Cycles-L" In-Reply-To: <000a01c150ad$3314f3e0$69f80d18@cj33046b> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gerbing's heated gloves will fix that! :-) They run the electrics through each finger, instead of just the palm, like some gloves... :-) mmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMM warm. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- "Richard L. Casale" wrote: > Does the back of your hands get cold at all or does > the heat actually > permeate your whole hand. I was told by another > lister that his heated > grips tend to only warm the inside of his hand, but > his knuckles and top of > his hand were still VERY cold. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 08:46:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99CkRf25571 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id IAA14517; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:43:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xma012815; Tue, 9 Oct 01 08:42:29 -0400 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GKX00I9CVDI0T@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 08:45:32 -0400 Subject: RE: wind chill To: ricardopontes@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, johnnyteardrop@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/09/2001 08:45:39 AM Or ... go online and order it and avoid the Bob's markups. Just throwing out another option, --chris Ricardo Pontes on 10/08/2001 06:18:34 PM To: Dccycles Greg Thompson cc: Subject: RE: wind chill Greg, Go to Bobs bmw, they will hook you up with heated clothing. Why wear multiple bulky layers when you can have a thin super hot vest that will heat your whole body. Today i rode with my heat vest and heat arm chaps and tshirt and jacket. If you get the vest from widder, you can then attack electric gloves from it. Much better than heated grips. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Thompson [mailto:johnnyteardrop@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 9:38 AM To: D.C.Cycles-L Subject: wind chill the ride in this morning reminded me that i haven't really addressed the whole cold weather riding gear thing. if i could ride with both of my hands wedged between the engine and airbox i'd be fine, but i don't trust throttle locks enough to free up my right hand. so anyway, any recommendations for cold weather gloves, or perhaps really thin but affective liners to wear under normal gloves? how about thin balaclava type things for me cold head? i tried on a fleece one a few months ago, but there was no chance i could pull my helmet on overtop of it. Go to performance bike (www.performancebike.com) and order a balaclava, they have very thin warm ones you can wear. That is what i use, and it works fine. Even thou my helmet is pretty tight it fits fine. 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From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 08:51:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99CpSf25659 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id IAA21887; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:48:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xma020092; Tue, 9 Oct 01 08:46:51 -0400 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GKX006IHVKT9I@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 08:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 08:49:42 -0400 Subject: RE: wind chill To: rydin@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/09/2001 08:50:00 AM Niv, I would attribute your hand warmth as much to the vest as the hand warmers. FWIW, I have a Widder heated vest and gloves, and I find I am using the gloves less and less (only on long rides). Why? Well, there is something to be said for keeping your core warm ... if my torso stays warm, it tends to keep the appendages (hands/fingers & feet/toes) MUCH warmer. YMMV, --chris rdrdr on 10/08/2001 08:41:55 PM To: "D.C.Cycles-L" cc: Subject: RE: wind chill I purchased hand-grip warmers from Aerostich last year and they have served me very well since. I've had them on the "low" heat position over the last few days and it works great with my semi-cold-weather gloves. The BMW ones cost around $200. The ones from Aerostich are now $37 + shipping etc. I figured its a good deal. Not too difficult to install either. I also have their Unobtanium electric vest. Real nice. http://www.aerostich.com/riderwearhouse.store Niv BMW F650ST with warm hands _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 09:33:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11104.mail.yahoo.com (web11104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99DXXf26289 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:33:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009133332.34817.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 06:33:32 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:33:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: OEM Honda Parts Source? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I need to get a few parts for my Superhawk and I was wondering if anyone has a good online source for OEM Honda parts. Thanks. Chris Weaver __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 09:33:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.kivex.com (smtp-out.kivex.com [204.177.32.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99DXtf26299 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:33:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kawgirl (kawgirl.kivex.com [208.213.150.18]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id JAA10605 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:33:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl To: dccycles Subject: paging Chris Weaver Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, you out there? Give me a shout. lisa@XXXXXX Lisa '95 VFR <- nice brisk ride in to work today! From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 09:38:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99Dclf26377 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kirk@localhost) by beta.nova.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f99DckW41131 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:38:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kirk@XXXXXX) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:38:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: OEM Honda Parts Source? In-Reply-To: <20011009133332.34817.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > I need to get a few parts for my Superhawk and I was wondering if > anyone has a good online source for OEM Honda parts. Thanks. Get parts numbers here: www.partsfish.com and then price/buy here www.ronayersmotorsports.com. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 09:44:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99DiTf26463 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 08:42:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 08:50:16 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: OEM Honda Parts Source? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f99DiUf26464 Chris, check out http://www.powersportspro.com/ They have online parts diagrams and good prices. George Cole 01 FZ1 FOR SALE >>> Chris Weaver 10/09/01 09:33AM >>> I need to get a few parts for my Superhawk and I was wondering if anyone has a good online source for OEM Honda parts. Thanks. Chris Weaver __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 09:54:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe42.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.37]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99DsBf26609 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:54:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:42:27 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [209.101.141.139] From: "Greg Thompson" To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: wind chill Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:42:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2001 13:42:27.0276 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BF640C0:01C150C8] well, all of the suggestions for heated apparel sound pretty good, but i'm not sure that my bike's electrical system is up to the task. what's the typical load for a vest and gloves? i ride a cb-1 (fairings are for weenies), and fellow owners have told me all sorts of stories about voltage regulators and such going on the fritz. has anyone given these gloves a test: http://www.adventuremotogear.com/118.htm. are they actually that warm? so far i haven't had much trouble keeping my torso warm. the liner in my scout II jacket does a nice job, even in the 40s. i'm not looking for all-day comfort, just enough to get me to and from work each day (20mi each way, mostly on rt 7). -- -greg From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 10:06:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99E6If26837 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id KAA20456 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:06:18 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <003301c150cb$789972b0$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" References: Subject: Re: wind chill Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:05:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Greg, I use heated grips with the cold weather gloves that Olympia makes. Together they cost about $60 and I don't think your CB-1 would have a problem handling the grips. I don't know if I would try the heated vest with that bike. Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Thompson" To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:42 AM Subject: wind chill > well, all of the suggestions for heated apparel sound pretty good, but i'm > not sure that my bike's electrical system is up to the task. what's the > typical load for a vest and gloves? i ride a cb-1 (fairings are for > weenies), and fellow owners have told me all sorts of stories about voltage > regulators and such going on the fritz. > > has anyone given these gloves a test: > http://www.adventuremotogear.com/118.htm. are they actually that warm? so > far i haven't had much trouble keeping my torso warm. the liner in my scout > II jacket does a nice job, even in the 40s. i'm not looking for all-day > comfort, just enough to get me to and from work each day (20mi each way, > mostly on rt 7). > -- > -greg From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 10:10:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99EAaf26858 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:10:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2001 14:10:34 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: wind chill Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:09:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <000a01c150ad$3314f3e0$69f80d18@cj33046b> Importance: Normal Well thats true - the back of the hands does get cold - but as the palm heats the blood does flow through the whole hand and its not half as bad as without the heated grips. I agree with Chris that having the body core heated with an electric vest helps keep the extremeties warm, but my experience tells me that its not enough. Besides, I'll often leave the electric vest off but turn on the grip warmers, depending on how cold it actually is out there. Jeannette does have the "full" solution with the heated gloves. Its more expensive and requires extra wiring. I might do that one day, but I'm OK for now. Niv -----Original Message----- From: Richard L. Casale [mailto:RichCasale@XXXXXX] Sent: Tue, October 09, 2001 6:29 AM To: rdrdr; D.C.Cycles-L Subject: Re: wind chill Does the back of your hands get cold at all or does the heat actually permeate your whole hand. I was told by another lister that his heated grips tend to only warm the inside of his hand, but his knuckles and top of his hand were still VERY cold. > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 10:12:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds1.osc.uscg.mil (cgds1.osc.uscg.mil [152.121.49.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99ECmf26940 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex.comdt.uscg.mil by CGDS1.osc.uscg.mil with ESMTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:12:43 -0400 Received: by hqex.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:15:06 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'wilsonl@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'tashalouis@XXXXXX'" Subject: Colemans Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:12:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There are two Coleman Powersports... the one in Falls Church and the other around Potomac Mills. They are both full of shyster (sp) sales personnel. If you go to most New or Used car palaces and even a good percentage of bike shops you will find that the sales people really are there to sell financing... not product. Another buyer beware... never pay anything down on anything. That's a crock. When the sales person asks for say $1000 down.... all you're doing is writing a check for their golf outing the coming Friday afternoon. There are a ton of banks who do not require ANYTHING down. Why would the financing desk at a dealing want any??? There's plenty of stuff out there. Figure out what you want. Research the price and go in to a showroom of a reputable shop with that information. Secure you're own loan thru your own bank and come back with your own check for the machine of your choice. my 2cents L8tr From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 10:12:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99ECnf26943 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-43-95.s349.tnt2.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.43.95] helo=palladio1) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15qxcl-0001UB-00; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 10:12:48 -0400 Message-ID: <001401c150cc$bb9f1500$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Greg Thompson" , "D.C.Cycles-L" References: Subject: Re: wind chill Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:10:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Greg, the Gerbing jacket liner and gloves I have are rated at 100 watts at full tilt and I rarely have them turned up that high. I have the electronic controller that "tapers" the current draw rather than the cheaper bimetallic switch that merely cycles the current on and off. Look in your owner's manual and total up your lighting load and then look up your alternator's rated output. Most bikes have enough juice to run the lights, ignition, charge the battery and service some accessory load, as long as you keep your revs up. At idle you could be draining your battery, but then again in stop and go traffic your heat loss is minimal anyway and you can turn down the heat. I ran the Gerbings all winter long last year, on a CB750 Nighthawk which has a very wimpy charging system. I had no problems with the electrical system. BTW, I bought my setup direct from the local Gerbing rep. He's in Mt. Airy, MD and his contact info is on the Gerbing web site. www.gerbing.com Nice guy and he can usually work a deal with you. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Thompson To: D.C.Cycles-L Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:42 AM Subject: wind chill > well, all of the suggestions for heated apparel sound pretty good, but i'm > not sure that my bike's electrical system is up to the task. what's the > typical load for a vest and gloves? i ride a cb-1 (fairings are for > weenies), and fellow owners have told me all sorts of stories about voltage > regulators and such going on the fritz. > > has anyone given these gloves a test: > http://www.adventuremotogear.com/118.htm. are they actually that warm? so > far i haven't had much trouble keeping my torso warm. the liner in my scout > II jacket does a nice job, even in the 40s. i'm not looking for all-day > comfort, just enough to get me to and from work each day (20mi each way, > mostly on rt 7). > -- > -greg From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 10:17:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99EHZf27030 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4KXHLF2Z>; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:14:50 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF481@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: re: wind chill Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:14:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" check out: www.sportsmansguide.com kind of a strange place actually! they have a constantly changing inventory of dusters, jackets, gloves, etc to keep you warm. i have not seen the heated gear here but for chaps, rain gear, etc the prices are really hard to beat and the quality is top-notch. i have one of their dusters, it's super-soft and flexible and W-A-R-M... and if I remember correctly it was about $150. Practically free! You can also email them and ask for what you are looking for; they will notify you when it is in stock or if they have stock not listed on the site. You do have to hunt around the site a little because most of the warm stuff is not on the motorcycle category; it's in men's wear or ladie's wear. -patti From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 10:20:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99EKLf27127 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:20:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2001 14:20:19 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "Greg Thompson" , "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: RE: wind chill Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:19:28 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal The heated grips from Aerostich take 4 Watts and .5 Amps. You should be fine with that. The Unobtanium electric vest has been replaced by the Kanetsu electric vest, but they both draw 45 Watts. The full length liner draws 70 Watts. Keeping warm in a blizzard: Priceless. Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: Greg Thompson [mailto:johnnyteardrop@XXXXXX] Sent: Tue, October 09, 2001 9:42 AM To: D.C.Cycles-L Subject: wind chill well, all of the suggestions for heated apparel sound pretty good, but i'm not sure that my bike's electrical system is up to the task. what's the typical load for a vest and gloves? i ride a cb-1 (fairings are for weenies), and fellow owners have told me all sorts of stories about voltage regulators and such going on the fritz. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 10:51:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com [24.37.122.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99EpFf27596 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:51:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (prometheus.brauhausdc.org [192.168.64.1]) by gillian.brauhausdc.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f99Ep8920804 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:51:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:51:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: RE: wind chill -- incorrect math In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, rdrdr wrote: > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:19:28 -0400 > From: rdrdr > Subject: RE: wind chill > > The heated grips from Aerostich take 4 Watts and .5 Amps. You should be fine > with that. This is a bit of a nit-pick, but one of the two numbers above is incorrect. At 12v, a simple Ohm's law P=IE (power equals current*voltage) does't work out. If you're drawing .5 amps of current, then you're going use 6 watts of power /or/ if you're using 4 watts of power, you're only drawing 1/3 amp of current. Not that big of a deal here -- but might be something to check with the higher rated vests, etc. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 10:58:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99EwBf27693 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-114-54.s54.tnt9.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.114.54] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15qyKf-00011v-00; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 10:58:10 -0400 Message-ID: <008a01c150d3$12527580$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "rdrdr" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: wind chill Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:44:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Niv, there's no extra wiring required with the jacket liner or vest. Wires come down the sleeves to power the gloves. One caveat with the Gerbing gloves is I find I need to adjust the brake lever to account for the thickness of the gloves. The only danger of the heated setup is you find yourself yearning for the world's longest extension cord to keep you warm off the bike. :) Paul in DC 95 VFR750F ----- Original Message ----- From: rdrdr > Well thats true - the back of the hands does get cold - but as the palm > heats the blood does flow through the whole hand and its not half as bad as > without the heated grips. I agree with Chris that having the body core > heated with an electric vest helps keep the extremeties warm, but my > experience tells me that its not enough. Besides, I'll often leave the > electric vest off but turn on the grip warmers, depending on how cold it > actually is out there. > Jeannette does have the "full" solution with the heated gloves. Its more > expensive and requires extra wiring. I might do that one day, but I'm OK for > now. > > Niv From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 13:38:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpoa01.msn.com (cpimssmtpb06.msn.com [207.46.181.46]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99HcGf00547 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cpimssmtpu04.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.80]) by cpimssmtpoa01.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:49:03 -0700 Received: from computer ([63.59.16.192]) by cpimssmtpu04.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:48:37 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: yamaha r1 question Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:49:11 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2001 16:48:38.0484 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E855140:01C150E2] I am changing my rear tire on my yamaha r1. And i noticed that the inside of the frame on the right side has a large dent/ indentation and well as the rear inside on the back on the right. I am wondering if this is normal for all yamaha r1 frames. Its a bit odd i think. But the bike is in perfect condition and i doubt i could have done that. Anyone know? Ricardo Pontes From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 13:42:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14602.mail.yahoo.com (web14602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.82]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99HgKf00651 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009174215.86541.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.163.173] by web14602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 10:42:15 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:42:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: yamaha r1 question To: Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii could be where your caliper rests....but from your cryptic description i really can't tell --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > I am changing my rear tire on my yamaha r1. And i noticed > that the inside of > the frame on the right side has a large dent/ indentation > and well as the > rear inside on the back on the right. I am wondering if > this is normal for > all yamaha r1 frames. Its a bit odd i think. But the bike > is in perfect > condition and i doubt i could have done that. Anyone > know? > > Ricardo Pontes > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 13:51:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99Hpaf00799 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:51:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (smtp-relay02-qfe3 [10.13.10.225]) by smtp-out.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f99HgBa09354 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com ([10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GKY9LF00.BVY for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:51:15 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-162.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.162]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GKY9LE00.2JO for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:51:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:50:52 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Subject: Carleton Penn III From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: <2E477000-BCDE-11D5-B676-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f99Hpbf00800 Anyone have his office numver kicking around? Thanks. "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 13:56:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99Humf00841 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (smtp-relay02-qfe3 [10.13.10.225]) by smtp-out.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f99HlYa11997 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com ([10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GKY9UD00.KFP for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:56:37 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-162.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.162]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GKY9UC00.GJU for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:56:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:56:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Carleton Penn III Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <2E477000-BCDE-11D5-B676-003065B452D2@mac.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) On Tuesday, October 9, 2001, at 01:50 , Sean Jordan wrote: > Anyone have his office numver kicking around? Thanks. Er...."number". From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:05:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99I5If01064 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:05:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA20497 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:00:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:00:45 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Carleton Penn III In-Reply-To: <2E477000-BCDE-11D5-B676-003065B452D2@mac.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII So what did you do this time? On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Sean Jordan wrote: > Anyone have his office numver kicking around? Thanks. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:05:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99I5Xf01074 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:05:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2001 18:05:31 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: wind chill -- incorrect math Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:04:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal You're right - i wasn't paying attention, but those were the numbers on the web site. Niv -----Original Message----- From: Daniel H. Brown [mailto:brown@XXXXXX] Sent: Tue, October 09, 2001 10:51 AM To: D.C.Cycles-L Subject: RE: wind chill -- incorrect math On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, rdrdr wrote: > Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:19:28 -0400 > From: rdrdr > Subject: RE: wind chill > > The heated grips from Aerostich take 4 Watts and .5 Amps. You should be fine > with that. This is a bit of a nit-pick, but one of the two numbers above is incorrect. At 12v, a simple Ohm's law P=IE (power equals current*voltage) does't work out. If you're drawing .5 amps of current, then you're going use 6 watts of power /or/ if you're using 4 watts of power, you're only drawing 1/3 amp of current. Not that big of a deal here -- but might be something to check with the higher rated vests, etc. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:14:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11105.mail.yahoo.com (web11105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.152]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99IEZf01174 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:14:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009181434.6737.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:14:34 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:14:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: yamaha r1 question To: Dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 2002 R1: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/products.asp?lid=2&lc=mcy&rdir=1 1998 R1: http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcyam/r1/chassis/r1_frame.html Check 'em and compare. ===== Chris Weaver VTR1000f __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:15:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14604.mail.yahoo.com (web14604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.84]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99IFJf01242 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:15:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009181518.70036.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.163.173] by web14604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:15:18 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:15:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Carleton Penn III To: Sean Jordan Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <2E477000-BCDE-11D5-B676-003065B452D2@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 703 591-4900 --- Sean Jordan wrote: > Anyone have his office numver kicking around? Thanks. ===== Thomas H. Gimer MURPHY & GIMER, LLC 4905 Del Ray Ave., Ste 504 Bethesda, MD 20814 (301)913-0060 (301)913-5415 (fax) tgimer@XXXXXX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:17:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99IH8f01252 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:17:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SKeener2@XXXXXX by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.7.) id e.15a.229cb32 (30960); Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:12:00 -0400 (EDT) From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Message-ID: <15a.229cb32.28f497ef@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:11:59 EDT Subject: Re: Carleton Penn III To: hcaldwell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 123 In a message dated 10/9/01 2:08:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hcaldwell@XXXXXX writes: > So what did you do this time? > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Sean Jordan wrote: > > > Anyone have his office numver kicking around? Thanks. Oh how well they know you Jordan. DOH! :-)) From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:21:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11108.mail.yahoo.com (web11108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.155]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99ILDf01342 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009182112.95089.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:21:12 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:21:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: yamaha r1 question To: Dccycles In-Reply-To: <20011009181434.6737.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oops. That first link should be: http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/UnitImage.asp?lid=2&lc=mcy&cid=5&mid=6&uid=169&year=2002&model=YZF%2DR1&iid=1386 You'll probably need to cut & paste. Chris --- Chris Weaver wrote: > 2002 R1: > http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/products.asp?lid=2&lc=mcy&rdir=1 > > 1998 R1: > http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcyam/r1/chassis/r1_frame.html > > Check 'em and compare. > > ===== > Chris Weaver > VTR1000f > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site > hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:31:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10504.mail.yahoo.com (web10504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.154]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99IV9f01506 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:31:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009183107.43142.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.247.112.158] by web10504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:31:07 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: OEM Honda Parts Source? To: Kirk Roy , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cool, the plastic I need for my SuperHawk is only $175. I thought it would be more. They only have plastic though. I need an engine case cover also (and turn signals, brake lever, right boot, new knee....) the Dragon had a light snack. Todd W. --- Kirk Roy wrote: > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > > I need to get a few parts for my Superhawk and I > was wondering if > > anyone has a good online source for OEM Honda > parts. Thanks. > > Get parts numbers here: www.partsfish.com and then > price/buy here > www.ronayersmotorsports.com. > > Kirk > ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:37:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f116.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.116]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99Ibvf01641 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:37:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:25:58 -0700 Received: from 151.200.109.76 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:25:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.200.109.76] From: "Todd Peer" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: wind chill Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:25:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Oct 2001 18:25:58.0713 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7918A90:01C150EF] From: "Ricardo Pontes" Greg, Go to Bobs bmw, they will hook you up with heated clothing. Why wear multiple bulky layers when you can have a thin super hot vest that will heat your whole body. Today i rode with my heat vest and heat arm chaps and tshirt and jacket. If you get the vest from widder, you can then attack electric gloves from it. Much better than heated grips. ------------------------------------------------- I purchased NEW Gerbing jacket liner, gloves and a duel thermostat control to vary the electricity draw and therefore the temps between gloves and jacket. Whole package for $395 and Mike gave me an extra battery cord, so now I can conveniently switch from bike to bike. Hey you mofos without electrics that are interested in them, Mike Vlahos (NE Distributor) gave me the club discount (listed under some Police Department) for these items, which saved me $30. I didn't really need the duel control thermostat, but it was only $30 more. If you contact him, you should mention the discount and that you heard about it on DC-Cycles (I told him I'd let y'all know). You can get the jacket liner (arms, collar, chest/torso, and back), gloves and single thermostat for $365. Mike is a very cool dude. He offered to buy me breakfast if I'm ever up his way and just struck me as a genuine motorcyclist. He does make his living selling Gerbing product, but he really isn't about that. Contact him directly: Mike Vlahos mgvlahos@XXXXXX P.O. Box 271 Mt. Airy, MD 21771 Phone: 301.831.0791 Fax: 301.829.0452 http://www.gerbing.com/ Todd (Springfield, VA) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:38:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99Ic1f01651 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:38:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Oct 2001 18:38:00 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: wind chill -- incorrect math Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:37:09 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal What ? Incorrect info on the Web ??? ;) Actually Aerostich/Riderwearhouse are usually pretty good about these things. Think they'll send us a free Darien jacket if we correct their mistake? Niv -----Original Message----- From: Daniel H. Brown [mailto:brown@XXXXXX] Sent: Tue, October 09, 2001 2:22 PM To: rdrdr Subject: RE: wind chill -- incorrect math Ya, I figured that was the case -- was more of a "buyer beware" kinda thing -- I'm not at all surprised that they have things listed incorrectly on the web. brown@XXXXXX _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:44:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99Iiuf01770 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.141]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GKY00JE9C0HJ6@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:43:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GKY00D01C0BPX@XXXXXX>; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:43:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with ESMTP id <0GKY00D32C0279@XXXXXX>; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:43:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:43:00 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: yamaha r1 question To: Chris Weaver Cc: Dccycles Message-id: <3BC34534.A5E0A2A@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20011009182112.95089.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Chris Weaver wrote: > > Oops. That first link should be: > http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/UnitImage.asp?lid=2&lc=mcy&cid=5&mid=6&uid=169&year=2002&model=YZF%2DR1&iid=1386 Amazing how minimal the frames are on those things nowadays. Cool pic. Horkster -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 89 of 99 done! Still need US5,8,19,US25,44,69,78,US80,82,US90 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:52:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11102.mail.yahoo.com (web11102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.149]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99Iq0f01955 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009185158.12338.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:51:58 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:51:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Brake Discs (was OEM Honda Parts) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011009183107.43142.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I guess I'm lucky - all I need are new brake discs. The stock ones seem to be warped all to hell. Anyone have recommendations for aftermarket disc suppliers? I may go this way if they're not too much more expensive and they perform better. PFM has cast iron rotors for the same price as the stock ones (~$185). EBC also seems to make replacement rotors. Who else? (I think the kits with rotors, 6-piston calipers & adapters is a bit too rich for my blood at ~$1300.) Chris --- Todd Withrow wrote: > Cool, the plastic I need for my SuperHawk is only > $175. I thought it would be more. They only have > plastic though. I need an engine case cover also > (and > turn signals, brake lever, right boot, new knee....) > the Dragon had a light snack. > > Todd W. > > --- Kirk Roy wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > > > I need to get a few parts for my Superhawk and I > > was wondering if > > > anyone has a good online source for OEM Honda > > parts. Thanks. > > > > Get parts numbers here: www.partsfish.com and then > > price/buy here > > www.ronayersmotorsports.com. > > > > Kirk > > > > > ===== > AIM: Inf DS > > http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now > society wants to childproof the world. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site > hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 14:54:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99IsDf01966 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kirk@localhost) by beta.nova.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f99IsCv15523 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:54:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kirk@XXXXXX) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:54:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: OEM Honda Parts Source? In-Reply-To: <20011009183107.43142.qmail@web10504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Oh, ye of little clicking - how long will I be with thee? First go to the partsfish site and get your part number. Then, go to ronayers, click on "Part # search" from their main page, and... They do, in fact, sell all the parts to build your superhawk from scratch. Kirk On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Todd Withrow wrote: > Cool, the plastic I need for my SuperHawk is only > $175. I thought it would be more. They only have > plastic though. I need an engine case cover also (and > turn signals, brake lever, right boot, new knee....) > the Dragon had a light snack. > > Todd W. > > --- Kirk Roy wrote: > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > > > I need to get a few parts for my Superhawk and I > > was wondering if > > > anyone has a good online source for OEM Honda > > parts. Thanks. > > > > Get parts numbers here: www.partsfish.com and then > > price/buy here > > www.ronayersmotorsports.com. > > > > Kirk > > > > > ===== > AIM: Inf DS > > http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 15:00:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99J03f02124 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-122-212-43.s297.apx1k.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.212.43] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15r26j-0007BT-00; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:00:02 -0400 Message-ID: <00d301c150f4$da09c440$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Todd Peer" , References: Subject: Re: wind chill Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:01:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I'll second what Todd says. Mike will do right by you. He even installed the battery pig-tail on my bike in his garage while I waited. Get thee to Mt. Airy; have a cold ride up there and a warm ride back. :) Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Peer > ------------------------------------------------- > I purchased NEW Gerbing jacket liner, gloves and a duel thermostat control > to vary the electricity draw and therefore the temps between gloves and > jacket. Whole package for $395 and Mike gave me an extra battery cord, so > now I can conveniently switch from bike to bike. > > Hey you mofos without electrics that are interested in them, Mike > Vlahos (NE Distributor) gave me the club discount (listed under some > Police Department) for these items, which saved me $30. I didn't > really need the duel control thermostat, but it was only $30 more. > If you contact him, you should mention the discount and that you heard about > it on DC-Cycles (I told him I'd let y'all know). You can get the jacket > liner (arms, collar, chest/torso, and back), gloves and single thermostat > for $365. > > Mike is a very cool dude. He offered to buy me breakfast if I'm ever > up his way and just struck me as a genuine motorcyclist. He does > make his living selling Gerbing product, but he really isn't about > that. > > Contact him directly: > Mike Vlahos mgvlahos@XXXXXX > P.O. Box 271 > Mt. Airy, MD 21771 > Phone: 301.831.0791 > Fax: 301.829.0452 > http://www.gerbing.com/ > > Todd (Springfield, VA) From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 15:07:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14603.mail.yahoo.com (web14603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99J7Af02232 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009190709.48293.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.163.173] by web14603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 12:07:09 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 12:07:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Brake Discs (was OEM Honda Parts) To: Chris Weaver , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011009185158.12338.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii aftermarket will likely be cheaper than stock....and if you find the right pad combination you'll be much happier i found the best price at jenspeed (www.jenspeed.com?) when i last shopped aftermarket rotors --- Chris Weaver wrote: > I guess I'm lucky - all I need are new brake discs. > The stock ones seem to be warped all to hell. Anyone > have recommendations for aftermarket disc suppliers? I > may go this way if they're not too much more expensive > and they perform better. PFM has cast iron rotors for > the same price as the stock ones (~$185). EBC also > seems to make replacement rotors. Who else? > > (I think the kits with rotors, 6-piston calipers & > adapters is a bit too rich for my blood at ~$1300.) > > Chris > > > --- Todd Withrow wrote: > > Cool, the plastic I need for my SuperHawk is only > > $175. I thought it would be more. They only have > > plastic though. I need an engine case cover also > > (and > > turn signals, brake lever, right boot, new knee....) > > the Dragon had a light snack. > > > > Todd W. > > > > --- Kirk Roy wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > > > > I need to get a few parts for my Superhawk and I > > > was wondering if > > > > anyone has a good online source for OEM Honda > > > parts. Thanks. > > > > > > Get parts numbers here: www.partsfish.com and then > > > price/buy here > > > www.ronayersmotorsports.com. > > > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > > > ===== > > AIM: Inf DS > > > > http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now > > society wants to childproof the world. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site > > hosting, just $8.95/month. > > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 16:10:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99KAtf03279 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:09:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:17:02 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: yamaha r1 question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f99KB3f03280 Ricardo, Yes, that is normal, I noticed the same on my R6 and went to the dealer and checked out new bikes. George Cole >>> "Ricardo Pontes" 10/09/01 12:49PM >>> I am changing my rear tire on my yamaha r1. And i noticed that the inside of the frame on the right side has a large dent/ indentation and well as the rear inside on the back on the right. I am wondering if this is normal for all yamaha r1 frames. Its a bit odd i think. But the bike is in perfect condition and i doubt i could have done that. Anyone know? Ricardo Pontes From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 17:19:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99LJ3f04368 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 16:17:32 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 16:25:06 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: Question about traffic Ct in VA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f99LJIf04369 Hey Everyone, I attended traffic Court in Rappahannock County today, I was able to work a deal where if I take a driving class they will drop the charges. I would have rather paid a bigger fine but this was the deal they were offering Since I live in MD I will have to take the class/test there. Anyone in MD have experience with this? Can I do this on-line? All I want to do is take the test and get a certificate, I don't need to take a stinkin class. Thanks, George Cole 01 FZ1 FOR SALE From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 17:27:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11505.mail.yahoo.com (web11505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.37]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99LRnf04511 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:27:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009212739.43391.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.52.58.5] by web11505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:27:39 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:27:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Question about traffic Ct in VA To: George Cole , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://onlinetrafficschool.com or http://www.iwillnotspeed.com/driving-school.htm --- George Cole wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > I attended traffic Court in Rappahannock County > today, I was able to work a deal where if I take a > driving class they will drop the charges. I would > have rather paid a bigger fine but this was the deal > they were offering > > Since I live in MD I will have to take the > class/test there. > Anyone in MD have experience with this? Can I do > this on-line? > > All I want to do is take the test and get a > certificate, I don't need to take a stinkin class. > > Thanks, > > George Cole > 01 FZ1 FOR SALE > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 18:11:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99MBCf05159 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p54.a4.du.radix.net [207.192.130.182]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA22429; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:11:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Chris Weaver'" , Subject: RE: Brake Discs (was OEM Honda Parts) Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:16:27 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c15110$2c692760$b682c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20011009185158.12338.qmail@web11102.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Chris W wondered aloud - I guess I'm lucky - all I need are new brake discs. The stock ones seem to be warped all to hell. Anyone have recommendations for aftermarket disc suppliers? ... (I think the kits with rotors, 6-piston calipers & adapters is a bit too rich for my blood at ~$1300.) I put Brembo 310mm iron rotors on my ZX11 for $420.00 with pads. I like them. I could've done the 6 piston 330mm conversion from (PFM?) for 800... HTH... Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 18:58:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f99Mwof05905 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA11463 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02018 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:58:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [209.67.207.13]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA16617 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (max2h-134.his.com [216.32.85.134]) by mail.his.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA16406 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:58:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.20011009185931.014b1e70@his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:59:33 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Team Charm Soiree' @ The Races Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Come "ho-down" with Team Charm for the last race weekend of 2001 at Summit Point. Keg'er Saturday night 10/13/01 in the pits. Regional championship title deciding race on Sunday, Sunday, Sunday around 16:00. Free Beer!!! Loud Motor Noises!!! Obnoxious Dogs!!! Racing Action!!! Stone Cold Camping!!! "Friends" welcome!!! Details at http://63.140.32.89/lastrace.html If you do not have web access, please reply and I'll send you a *.pdf Hope to c'jah there!!!!!!!!! S From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 19:07:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10508.mail.yahoo.com (web10508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.158]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f99N7Sf06102 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 19:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011009230727.41461.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.94.90.148] by web10508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 16:07:27 PDT Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:07:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: OEM Honda Parts Source? To: Kirk Roy , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, don't doubt my clicking ability. It came up with no match found. No biggie. The JB Weld seems to be holding just fine. :) --- Kirk Roy wrote: > Oh, ye of little clicking - how long will I be with > thee? First go to the > partsfish site and get your part number. Then, go to > ronayers, click on > "Part # search" from their main page, and... They > do, in fact, sell all > the parts to build your superhawk from scratch. > > Kirk > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Todd Withrow wrote: > > > Cool, the plastic I need for my SuperHawk is only > > $175. I thought it would be more. They only have > > plastic though. I need an engine case cover also > (and > > turn signals, brake lever, right boot, new > knee....) > > the Dragon had a light snack. > > > > Todd W. > > > > --- Kirk Roy wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > > > > I need to get a few parts for my Superhawk and > I > > > was wondering if > > > > anyone has a good online source for OEM Honda > > > parts. Thanks. > > > > > > Get parts numbers here: www.partsfish.com and > then > > > price/buy here > > > www.ronayersmotorsports.com. > > > > > > Kirk > > > > > > > > > ===== > > AIM: Inf DS > > > > http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. > Now society wants to childproof the world. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > NEW from Yahoo! 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Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 21:56:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9A1umf08574 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 21:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-64-149.s149.tnt6.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.64.149] helo=camaro) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15r8c2-00079i-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 09 Oct 2001 21:56:46 -0400 Message-ID: <00ff01c1512f$580acc60$b600a8c0@imsofired.local> From: "Adam Brookman" To: "dccycles" References: Subject: Re: go karts Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:00:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 That would depend on the weather. It gets real busy when they reopen the track after it rains. For the most part its not too bad. Anyone here have experience with aftermarket ignitions on kawasakis? Adam > > www.allsportsgp.com > > Hey, I went to the go kart place near Dulles yesterday, loved it! I want > to get a group together to go there next Saturday night. Does anyone know > how busy or crowded it will be around 5 or 6 pm on a Saturday? > > Lisa > '95 VFR, drove the cage today, no traffic and free parking. > > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 22:15:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9A2F3f08955 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9A2Exn12498; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:14:59 -0400 From: Brian Roach Reply-To: roach@XXXXXX To: "Adam Brookman" , "dccycles" Subject: Re: go karts Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:14:28 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <00ff01c1512f$580acc60$b600a8c0@imsofired.local> In-Reply-To: <00ff01c1512f$580acc60$b600a8c0@imsofired.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01100922142801.13055@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 09 October 2001 22:00, Adam Brookman wrote: > That would depend on the weather. It gets real busy when they reopen the > track after it rains. For the most part its not too bad. I think you're thinking of the "beach" style go-carts at that water-park place near Dulles. The ones she's talking about are the indoor racing carts located near the cascades... much different. - Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 9 22:47:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [207.192.128.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9A2luf09416 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p34.a3.du.radix.net [207.192.130.34]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA00729; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:47:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Adam Brookman'" , "'dccycles'" Subject: RE: go karts Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:52:58 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c15136$d6eb1920$2282c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <00ff01c1512f$580acc60$b600a8c0@imsofired.local> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Adam asks - Anyone here have experience with aftermarket ignitions on kawasakis? I have a V&H Powerpak & Dyna coils on my ZX 11. The powerpak is nice because of the adjustable rev limiter. It has 4 ignition advance curves. the level 1 (stock) setting netted the most hp, an eye abuser stomping +1.1 rwhp over stock. The coils improved the start up & idle, but I registered no gain in power with them. I also run a + 5 degree ignition advancer, which did nothing until about 8k rpms (just after peak torque) it was worth 15 hp at 11k (yes, + 15 hp) over the stock piece. It was worth zip everwhere else, except from 8k to redline (11.5k) . No other setting (I used an adjustable advancer) made any significant difference, +4 degrees was like + 4 hp or something weird. of course, I only got about 4 total hp out of the advancer at stock displacement... As with anything, YMMV. HTH Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' LTT customized M96G EII 'Little Friend' http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 06:27:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9AAR5f16484 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 06:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-51-232.s486.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.51.232]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15rGZo-0006IT-00; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 06:27:01 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Jeff Steele Cc: "DCCycles" Subject: Re: Heyser Cycle Center Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 06:28:41 -0700 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9AARKf16485 Heyser has been known to be really shitty. I am one of thier victims. btw they prey on new bike owners. Danny From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 06:36:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9AAaof16646 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 06:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-51-232.s486.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.51.232]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15rGjJ-0006qS-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 06:36:49 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: I'm looking for used parts / race take offs? Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 06:38:30 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9AAauf16647 00-01 gsxr 600/750/1000 fairing stay, left mirror 00 zx6r red upper any racers know anyone with race take off stuff? i'm always interested in cheap package deals. thanks 5 Danny From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 07:51:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.35]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9ABp6f17780 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 07:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj33046b ([24.13.248.105]) by femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011010115100.QFLW21240.femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj33046b>; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 04:51:00 -0700 Message-ID: <007901c15181$e3449c00$69f80d18@cj33046b> Reply-To: "Richard L. Casale" From: "Richard L. Casale" To: , "VFR List" Subject: Double-whammy of Bad Luck Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 07:51:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 You want to talk about the worse night I've had in the last couple of years--last night was the night. Early that morning I noticed my gas light started to blink, but I only had 100 miles or so on my tripometer so I figured cool, I can make it to work and back--some 10 miles each way--so I'll fill up on the way home at my favorite Texaco. Get to work just fine (I live in Virginia and work in DC), did my daily duties then headed for home. My trusty yellow VFR and I were heading down main street about to loop through the mint to get on HOV when my front tire started to get all weird--what the ??? I finish my loop and am out on 14th street with the bike starts bucking and kicking. Almost thrown off twice I hold on and pull her over--the front end feeling like I'm riding on marshmallows. As luck would have it I road over a nice nail right in my front tire and to make matters worse I ran out of gas. I'm a creature of habit and I ride the same route every day so I know not to worry about my gas until I see 150 on the meter--today was obviously different. So with the hand of fate securely around me I pull off of the road and make it to the divider between the HOV lane and the local traffic lanes on 395. Pulled over I call my girlfriend and walk her through how to find me and were my spare fuel bottle--honey bring the portable air pump. :-) An hour goes by and my girlfriend (who lives in Maryland and knows nothing about DC) is totally local on 395 way past the Main street exit. I'm trying to tell her how to find me, but she is so frustrated that I might a well start walking home now. Finally I get here to pull over and park while I walk to find here. I get to her car order her to move over so I can get us back to the bike. Fill her up, put a quick patch in the tire and load it up with air. I only have 5 miles to go--no problem. Half way home in the HOV lane I ran out of gas again--apparently I need a MUCH BIGGER fuel bottle. I was so pissed you have no idea. Refuel again and when I get back my tire is half out of air again--not enough time for the patch to set---$#$%@@ &^$%#@@ !~!@#. So now I'm on my second refuel and I have a mile to go on a half flat tire--DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME. Worse ride of my life. Just as I'm pulling into my parking lot I (yes you guessed it) ran out of gas for a third time. I'm ready to get a bicycle by this time, but with only a few feet to push my otherwise trusty stead (up hill of course) I get her into my parking space, get in my place and pound down a fosters oilcan just for good measure. A night I will not forget--period. PS - I will say that while I was waiting for my girlfriend to find me about several fellow motorcyclists of all shapes and sizes pulled over to see if I needed any assistance. No one #$@! cage driver even gave me a second glance, and if they did it was to laugh. Thanks guys for being more human then the rest of those bastards out there. From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 08:08:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9606.mail.yahoo.com (web9606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.185]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9AC87f18047 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 08:08:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011010120805.50362.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 05:08:05 PDT Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 05:08:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Double-whammy of Bad Luck To: "Richard L. Casale" , DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX, VFR List In-Reply-To: <007901c15181$e3449c00$69f80d18@cj33046b> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Man, sorry you had a bad night. I had one of those that was totally not motorcycle related with my husband years ago. I have a very strange sense of humor, I guess, because as things got worse and worse, it became funnier & funnier to me - sorta a "Murphy's Law" irony type thing that struck me as hysterical. Well, Tom sure didn't think so! I think he got madder & madder the more I laughed about it all. So, just be happy I'm not your girlfriend, you probably would have wanted to slap me by the third time you ran out of gas! ;-) Oh, and law of the roads - People Suck. :-( - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- "Richard L. Casale" wrote: > You want to talk about the worse night I've had in > the last couple of > years--last night was the night. > > Early that morning I noticed my gas light started to > blink, but I only had > 100 miles or so on my tripometer so I figured cool, > I can make it to work > and back--some 10 miles each way--so I'll fill up on > the way home at my > favorite Texaco. Get to work just fine (I live in > Virginia and work in DC), > did my daily duties then headed for home. > > My trusty yellow VFR and I were heading down main > street about to loop > through the mint to get on HOV when my front tire > started to get all > weird--what the ??? I finish my loop and am out on > 14th street with the > bike starts bucking and kicking. Almost thrown off > twice I hold on and pull > her over--the front end feeling like I'm riding on > marshmallows. As luck > would have it I road over a nice nail right in my > front tire and to make > matters worse I ran out of gas. I'm a creature of > habit and I ride the same > route every day so I know not to worry about my gas > until I see 150 on the > meter--today was obviously different. > > So with the hand of fate securely around me I pull > off of the road and make > it to the divider between the HOV lane and the local > traffic lanes on 395. > Pulled over I call my girlfriend and walk her > through how to find me and > were my spare fuel bottle--honey bring the portable > air pump. :-) > > An hour goes by and my girlfriend (who lives in > Maryland and knows nothing > about DC) is totally local on 395 way past the Main > street exit. I'm trying > to tell her how to find me, but she is so frustrated > that I might a well > start walking home now. Finally I get here to pull > over and park while I > walk to find here. I get to her car order her to > move over so I can get us > back to the bike. Fill her up, put a quick patch in > the tire and load it up > with air. I only have 5 miles to go--no problem. > Half way home in the HOV > lane I ran out of gas again--apparently I need a > MUCH BIGGER fuel bottle. I > was so pissed you have no idea. Refuel again and > when I get back my tire is > half out of air again--not enough time for the patch > to set---$#$%@@ &^$%#@@ > !~!@#. So now I'm on my second refuel and I have a > mile to go on a half > flat tire--DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME. Worse ride of > my life. > > Just as I'm pulling into my parking lot I (yes you > guessed it) ran out of > gas for a third time. I'm ready to get a bicycle by > this time, but with > only a few feet to push my otherwise trusty stead > (up hill of course) I get > her into my parking space, get in my place and pound > down a fosters oilcan > just for good measure. > > A night I will not forget--period. > > PS - I will say that while I was waiting for my > girlfriend to find me about > several fellow motorcyclists of all shapes and sizes > pulled over to see if I > needed any assistance. No one #$@! cage driver even > gave me a second > glance, and if they did it was to laugh. Thanks > guys for being more human > then the rest of those bastards out there. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 09:21:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay2.softcomca.com (relay.softcomca.com [168.144.1.68] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9ADLuf19122 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:21:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w048 ([168.144.108.48]) by relay2.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:24:56 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 128.221.131.121 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck Sender: "sdave@XXXXXX" From: "sdave@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 09:21:44 -0400 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2001 13:24:56.0671 (UTC) FILETIME=[F42A66F0:01C1518E] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9ADM0f19123 Rich looks back on a dark commuting day... Original Message: ----------------- You want to talk about the worse night I've had in the last couple of years--last night was the night. Early that morning I noticed my gas light started to blink, but I only had 100 miles or so on my tripometer so I figured I finish my loop and am out on 14th street with the bike starts bucking and kicking. Almost thrown off twice I hold on and pull her over--the front end feeling like I'm riding on marshmallows. As luck would have it I road over a nice nail right in my front tire and to make matters worse I ran out of gas. I'm a creature of habit and I ride the same route every day so I know not to worry about my gas until I see 150 on the meter--today was obviously different. I've had an out of gas ride & a nail in front tire ride. But not together. That's an impressive tale of woe. So with the hand of fate securely around me around your neck ??? I pull off ...I call my girlfriend and walk her through how to find me ... An hour goes by and my girlfriend (who lives in Maryland and knows nothing about DC) is totally local on 395 way past the Main street exit. I'm trying to tell her how to find me, but she is so frustrated that I might a well start walking home now. Finally I get here to pull over and park while I walk to find here. ... Just as I'm pulling into my parking lot I (yes you guessed it) ran out of gas for a third time. ...get in my place and pound down a fosters oilcan just for good measure. Last spring, I ran out of gas for the 1st time in about 10 years. I should've been tipped off when I hit the ignition key and the tell tale fuel lights didn't light off / click. hmm... that's strange... oh what the he!!, there's only 120 on the clock, I got an easy 100 miles left... What did not occur to me was the fuel light connector was loose AND, the bike had been sitting for about a week & a half... So, I set off on what was a pretty entertaining ride, with the final leg of my journey - less than 10 miles from home, down Bumpy Oak Road. It was a good ride, right up 'til the time I powered out of the last good turn. As soon as I straightened up, I got the tell tale 'bucking & coughing', and made it over the railroad tracks and halfway up the 3/4 mile long hill, rolling to a stop. cell phone out, no signal. Walk a few hundred feet, get signal, call wife - OF COURSE - she's out shopping. leave message with instructions & directions. 1 biker stops, 1 passes (BMW). minutes tick by. then an hour.... finally, she pulls up, madder than hell because she went the wrong way on 224. I told her go left, she went right and it was MY FAULT she got lost, and I had better not forget it... gas up, go home, replay message... sure sounded to me like I said left... Much silence ensues as I watch the History channel for a few hours while sampling some finer micro brews.... Glad you got home safe! Dave -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 10:55:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9AEtjf20562 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:55:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Oct 2001 14:55:44 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: For sale Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:52:12 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Alas, my continued state of unemployment has rendered it necessary that I sell off some of the stable. For sale: my beloved 2000 Kawasaki Super Sherpa KLR250. All stock about 2k miles (the speedo/odo has never worked - but I have the part). Great bike with electric start. Fairly low seat height (easy for me to flatfoot). Looking for $3200 obo. LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 14:19:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.mac.com ([204.179.120.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9AIJff23817 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-qfe3 [10.13.10.224]) by smtp-out.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9AI85n01026 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GL05KL00.JVG for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:19:33 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-162.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.162]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GL05KL00.EGF for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:19:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:19:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Subject: Funny picture From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: <4C79DC72-BDAB-11D5-98F6-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9AIJrf23818 http://www.tctubantia.nl/CDA/regioportal/1,2078,1654__772741_,00.html Look to the right of Bin Laden's neck..... "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 14:25:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.5]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9AIPXf23903 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:25:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp.ddlomni.com from localhost (router,SLMail V5.0); Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:27:26 -0400 for Received: from jstrang [204.245.128.170] by smtp.ddlomni.com [204.245.128.5] (SLmail 5.0.0.4342) with SMTP id FA05CFF8BD9C11D58E21006008C770E5 for plus 1 more; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:27:25 -0400 From: "Jon Strang" To: "Sean Jordan" , Subject: RE: Funny picture (way, way OT) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:24:07 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4C79DC72-BDAB-11D5-98F6-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-SLUIDL: 07A28293-BD2D11D5-8E210060-08C770E5 For more proof that Bert is Evil: http://www.fractalcow.com/bert/bert.htm > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Jordan [mailto:eternity23@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 2:19 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Funny picture > > > http://www.tctubantia.nl/CDA/regioportal/1,2078,1654__772741_,00.html > > Look to the right of Bin Laden's neck..... > > > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > ^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html > From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 14:35:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9AIZJf24137 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-42-91.s91.tnt2.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.42.91]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15rOC8-0001VP-00; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:35:04 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Larry Larson Cc: "Custer, Carl" , "'DCCycles'" , "'ljtanner@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Price of tire mounting Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:36:39 -0700 Message-ID: <0nf9stso6ji3tsvgfhij5gh7eun0tkoo9d@4ax.com> References: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666AC54@DCHQCLEXHQ> <4.3.2.7.2.20011005184044.00aa5260@mail.9netave.com> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011005184044.00aa5260@mail.9netave.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9AIZYf24138 My understanding is that bike tires are very into spec. I have changed both front and rear wheel without balancing the tire. Put the circle near the valve stem and go! however I know how to manually balance the tires like the racers do. Had i ever had any indication that the tires needed balancign after i mounted them and test road them, I would have taken them back off and balanced them, however they were just fine. Wheelies, endo's, and 172 mph indicated. I will balance a tire when I get any indication it needs to be done... i've never had anything less than smoothness and proper tire wear. Front and rear. Am I just lucky? doubt it. Danny From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 14:50:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20108.mail.yahoo.com (web20108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9AIoGf24394 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011010185015.59746.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:50:15 PDT Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:50:15 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Dennis Kirk outlet To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii www.denniskirkoutlet.com. lots of exhuast systems on the site but probably older bikes. Might find a decent deal. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 15:07:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from kafka.net.nih.gov (kafka.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9AJ7Mf24665 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.231.204.136] ([128.231.204.136]) by kafka.net.nih.gov (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9AJ7HK14372 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:04:39 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Erick Singley Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" As a brand new rider, I've been learning more than I meant to about maintenance. I, too, had thought I should have had another 100 miles, and due to several problems, I ran out again on rt 270 going north in the afternoon. After getting the last 10 second gasp out of a cell phone battery as well, I sat back to watch the traffic and await a rescue from home, grateful of the earplugs I had just bought. While waiting, I was asked if I need help by two police officers (one who tagged the bike with a red 'move it or get towed' tag), one cabbie, one tow truck, and two motorcyclists. The next day, installing a freshly charged battery, tank of gas, and quart of oil, I asked by two more motorcyclists if I needed help. That's 8 people who wanted to help me in some fashion when sitting by a motorcycle. When I've had car trouble, I'm lucky to get a single person who will stop. It was a nice refreshing change. Many other riders passed by, but three lanes away in the HOV they couldn't have seen me until it was too late. [I need to check the charging system, plugs, wires and remember to turn the stopcock *off* after riding] 74' CB750 Erick From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 15:43:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com [207.46.181.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9AJhJf25273 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.44.250.249]) by cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:43:11 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" , Subject: RE: Heyser Cycle Center Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:43:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2001 19:43:12.0131 (UTC) FILETIME=[CBB6C530:01C151C3] Danny, I have had good luck with heysers and really recommend them. What problems have you had with them in the past? Ricardo -----Original Message----- From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX [mailto:daniel_ex250@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 9:29 AM To: Jeff Steele Cc: DCCycles Subject: Re: Heyser Cycle Center Heyser has been known to be really shitty. I am one of thier victims. btw they prey on new bike owners. Danny From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 18:06:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9AM6Hf27650 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:06:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.11]) id QQlkeq18245; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:06:09 GMT Received: from dhcppool127-162.corp.us.uu.net by imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: dhcppool127-162.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.127.162]) id QQlkeq13538; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:06:02 GMT Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:05:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Subject: Excellent AMA VIR pics! From: Sean Jordan To: FZR400@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9AM6Rf27651 http://slim.achieversusa.com/ryan/AMA_Finals/ Shot by the same guy as those other pics I posted. These pictures ROCK! "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 19:18:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.106]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9ANIcf28815 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:18:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.c9.16c9644e (4586) for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:18:30 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:18:30 EDT Subject: Re: Excellent AMA VIR pics! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c9.16c9644e.28f63146_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 --part1_c9.16c9644e.28f63146_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sjordan@XXXXXX writes: > These pictures ROCK! > You got that right! Interesting to see the different riding styles and how they hang off the bike... Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_c9.16c9644e.28f63146_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit sjordan@XXXXXX writes:


These pictures ROCK!

You got that right! Interesting to see the different riding styles and how they hang off the bike...

Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R --part1_c9.16c9644e.28f63146_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 20:03:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9B03uf29565 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUdayUvC1+o+SxjmmgCHM4XQ=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GHE76U9D; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:03:06 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:40:28 -0400 Subject: Red Cross Rally THIS WEEKEND @ Summit Point Message-ID: <20011010.195846.-507891.6.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,4-5,9-10,15-16,19-22,25-26,29-31 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Yep, the time is almost upon us. The grass roots driven Rally in the Valley ( http://www.levelfive.tv/RALLY/) to benefit the American Red Cross is this weekend (October 13-14). The Red Cross will be on hand to accept cash or check donations. This is the local, Jefferson County, VA chapter, which is great for the Red Cross and our public relations efforts with the local community. Please be as generous as you can. This will take place during the last CCS race weekend of the year at Summit Point. Although the track is not (yet ;-P) participating, CCS is allowing us to run PARADE LAPS on both Saturday and Sunday. $15 for three laps in car, truck or on bike. All proceeds go to the American Red Cross. MARRC is having its regularly scheduled last weekend of the year pumpkin carving contest for the kiddies, and color should be at peak - both the foliage and the Red, White and Blue. Regional championships to be decided. I've stocked up on patriotic music (tell me which version of the National Anthem you like best!). Be prepared to join in - bring the words if you need them! Bring a flag and show it proudly! I will be announcing. If you are there as part of a group, be sure to let me know. I'll be glad to send out a big howdy to all the Rally Riders! Ride Safe, Tom From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 10 22:47:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11508.mail.yahoo.com (web11508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9B2l1f02092 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011024700.32062.qmail@web11508.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.52.58.5] by web11508.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:47:00 PDT Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:47:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Looking for the guy who bought the KZ400 from me... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry for the post but I'm terrible with names and can't remember the name of the guy who bought the KZ400 from me a couple months ago. Anyhow, whoever you are, are you finished with the charger I loaned you? Thanks Glenn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 03:21:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9B7LVf06371 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 03:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VIRGINIA.meyerweb.net ([24.168.215.73]) by mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:37:35 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011010222234.00a70c10@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:24:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Painting bike? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'm sure this has been asked before. Nonetheless: Can anyone recommend any local, DC area paint shops? I'm aware of Speed-Werks, but would prefer someplace closer, if at all possible. The bike's a Honda ST1100, so there's lots of tupperware. Thanks, Bob Meyer From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 07:37:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9701.mail.yahoo.com (web9701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.137]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BBbCf10025 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011113711.93764.qmail@web9701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.128.134.68] by web9701.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 04:37:11 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 04:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Way OT: Bonds card value? To: DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I seem to remember someone from this list was into such things... Anyone know what a Barry Bonds rookie card is worth these days? Thanks, Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 07:40:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9707.mail.yahoo.com (web9707.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.165]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BBeRf10039 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011114027.74310.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.128.134.68] by web9707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 04:40:27 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 04:40:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: RE: Anthem version To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tom wrote... > I've stocked up on patriotic music (tell me which > version of the National Anthem you like best!). Hendrix! Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 09:45:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BDjhf11942 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:45:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH7844>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:44:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Meters Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:44:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9BDl6f11943 I'm new to the list sorry if this has already been discussed. Is there a plan to put meters at every motorcycle parking area in DC? The area I usually park in had a pick up truck taking up M-= it's spots this morning. I went to my back up at 15th and I in NW and was very surprised to find digital meters there this morning. I'm not upset at the thought of spending a few dollars a day, but with 4 hour limits I will have to feed it before lunch and one again in the afternoon before I leave. Does anyone know if the 4 hour limit is just for paying the meter or if you have to move it after 4 hours? From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 10:02:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13001.mail.yahoo.com (web13001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BE2Rf12202 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011140226.29185.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.101.175.2] by web13001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:02:26 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:02:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Purdy Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am actually surprised by all the tales of running out of gas. Don't sport bikes have reserve tanks? When my bike starts bucking, I just reach down, flip to the reserve tank, and I've got another 50 miles or so to get to a gas station. Of course, I don't have a low fuel light, so maybe bikes with fuel lights don't have reserve tanks... -- Jeremy Purdy '00 Yamaha V-Star Classic - Jeade'en From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 10:05:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BE5cf12291 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from M2W018 ([168.144.108.18]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:09:07 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Painting bike? Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:08:29 -0400 To: "bob@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2001 14:09:08.0047 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AEC05F0:01C1525E] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9BE6wf12292 Bob, Noah at Better Off Bodyworks down in Dumfries/Triange. I don't have his number handy, but he should be in directory assistance. If not, call Denny or Joey at Crossroads Cycles in Falls Church (703) 820-3711. They can give you his number as he is their primary (only?) painter for repair/custom work. Chuck P.S. Noah did my RIP GSXR-750 which you can take a look at at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas/chux_gsxr.htm. Original Message: ----------------- From: Bob Meyer bob@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:24:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Painting bike? I'm sure this has been asked before. Nonetheless: Can anyone recommend any local, DC area paint shops? I'm aware of Speed-Werks, but would prefer someplace closer, if at all possible. The bike's a Honda ST1100, so there's lots of tupperware. Thanks, Bob Meyer -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 10:11:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9009.mail.yahoo.com (web9009.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.171]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BEBEf12337 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011140959.4269.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.8.43.134] by web9009.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:09:59 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:09:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: NOMC: Moving Spam To: List SV650 , MARRC List , DC Cycles List , MicaPeak Race List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I hate asking friends to move, so instead I'll ask... Who'd like to make $50 the hard way? We close on the house on Nov 21, leaving the entire Thanksgiving weekend to move. Starting location: Arlington, VA Destination location: Dominion Station in Sterling, VA So, if you: -Live in the DC or Sterling area, (You don't have to do both locations, maybe help on one end or the other.) -Can offer any of the following -Pickup/SUV -Trailer -Physical Talents -Couple hours of your time I'd rather pay to rent your truck/trailer/body than U-haul or Jack Moving Company. Please contact me off list, and we'll work something out. Thanks, Steve Clark Tight Squeeze Racing __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 10:19:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BEJnf12473 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4KXHLFLP>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:16:57 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF49A@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'RichH@XXXXXX'" , "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Meters Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:16:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9BELAf12474 Technically they say you have to move the bike (any vehicle at any meter) after the time limit, but my experience is that they don't really keep track of who's at what meter until you get that first ticket. I can't guarantee it, though! But they generally leave you alone unless you're expired. By the way, if you're expired they can ticket you as often as they want so watch out for that. I used to work in DuPont Circle and did the meter thing for 3 years... and those were 2-hour spots! By the way, if anyone is red-line accessible to work and does not want to fight with parking, there is a quarter-block stretch here near upper Connecticut Ave NW that is free motorcycle parking, no time limits, park between 7am- 7pm. It's about a 2 minute walk to the VanNess-UDC Metro and the most bikes I have seen there at any one time is 3 (one being mine when I don't park underground). Sure beats whatever they charge downtown! Email me and I'll let you know where it is. -patti -----Original Message----- From: RichH@XXXXXX [mailto:RichH@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:45 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Meters I'm new to the list sorry if this has already been discussed. Is there a plan to put meters at every motorcycle parking area in DC? The area I usually park in had a pick up truck taking up M-= it's spots this morning. I went to my back up at 15th and I in NW and was very surprised to find digital meters there this morning. I'm not upset at the thought of spending a few dollars a day, but with 4 hour limits I will have to feed it before lunch and one again in the afternoon before I leave. Does anyone know if the 4 hour limit is just for paying the meter or if you have to move it after 4 hours? From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 10:36:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14610.mail.yahoo.com (web14610.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.242]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BEaaf12786 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011141412.50542.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.163.173] by web14610.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:14:12 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:14:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck To: Jeremy Purdy , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: <20011011140226.29185.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jeremy Purdy wrote: > I am actually surprised by all the tales of running > out of gas. Don't sport bikes have reserve tanks? > > When my bike starts bucking, I just reach down, flip > to the reserve tank, and I've got another 50 miles or > so to get to a gas station. > > Of course, I don't have a low fuel light, so maybe > bikes with fuel lights don't have reserve tanks... you are correct, sir.... if you've got a light, it is unlikely that you have reserve. most (all?) fuel injected bikes fit into this category.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 10:41:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BEf5f12799 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-117-42.s296.tnt10.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.117.42] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15rh1E-0005GN-00; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:41:04 -0400 Message-ID: <008e01c15263$056f3a60$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Jeremy Purdy" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <20011011140226.29185.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Double-whammy of Bad Luck Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:42:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 No reserve on mine, just a gauge, low fuel idiot light and a trip odometer. The idiot light comes on pretty reliably at about a half gallon to go. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeremy Purdy > I am actually surprised by all the tales of running > out of gas. Don't sport bikes have reserve tanks? > > When my bike starts bucking, I just reach down, flip > to the reserve tank, and I've got another 50 miles or > so to get to a gas station. > > Of course, I don't have a low fuel light, so maybe > bikes with fuel lights don't have reserve tanks... > > -- > Jeremy Purdy > '00 Yamaha V-Star Classic - Jeade'en > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 11:00:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BF0Lf13215 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id KAA17163; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:56:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xma015935; Thu, 11 Oct 01 10:55:52 -0400 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GL1007BWQVRE9@XXXXXX>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:58:51 -0400 Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck To: t_gimer@XXXXXX Cc: purdyjeremy@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/11/2001 10:59:01 AM I'll play the exception ... I have a light and a reserve. No fuel injection, though. FWIW, I track my fuel consumption by relying on my mileage (Odometer) more than the light, but why is it so hard for bikes to include a fuel gauge? Even my entry level ex-Katana had one. Sheesh! --chris RF900rr Tom Gimer on 10/11/2001 10:14:12 AM To: Jeremy Purdy DC-Cycles cc: Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck --- Jeremy Purdy wrote: > I am actually surprised by all the tales of running > out of gas. Don't sport bikes have reserve tanks? > > When my bike starts bucking, I just reach down, flip > to the reserve tank, and I've got another 50 miles or > so to get to a gas station. > > Of course, I don't have a low fuel light, so maybe > bikes with fuel lights don't have reserve tanks... you are correct, sir.... if you've got a light, it is unlikely that you have reserve. most (all?) fuel injected bikes fit into this category.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 11:07:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lmimailg.lmi.org ([198.3.128.185]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BF7Yf13314 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:07:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by lmimailg.lmi.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4JCTZS04>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:07:29 -0400 Message-ID: <69FF9744D75D8E44BB30C01515D2D5DD6E7A4C@lmimaila.lmi.org> From: "ROBERSON, Brian" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:07:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C15266.71E3C960" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C15266.71E3C960 Content-Type: text/plain Jeremy, The 98-01 VFR -- sports a .9 gallon reserve.. This is good for almost 40 miles.. The digital LED starts blinking when you've hit this magical reserve... Unfortunately for us, its not a BIG wake-up call like when you start sputtering and have to physically turn your tank to reserve. This leads to complacency!!! I found out one morning how low I was... Sput, Sput, OFF... (no reserve toggle!!) -- nice brisk walk back home.. Fortunately I was only 1/8 of a mile from the house!! Brian 99 VFR 81 CB750F - with fuel reserve switch -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Purdy [mailto:purdyjeremy@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:02 AM To: DC-Cycles Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck I am actually surprised by all the tales of running out of gas. Don't sport bikes have reserve tanks? When my bike starts bucking, I just reach down, flip to the reserve tank, and I've got another 50 miles or so to get to a gas station. Of course, I don't have a low fuel light, so maybe bikes with fuel lights don't have reserve tanks... -- Jeremy Purdy '00 Yamaha V-Star Classic - Jeade'en ------_=_NextPart_001_01C15266.71E3C960 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck

Jeremy,

The 98-01 VFR -- sports a .9 gallon reserve.. This is = good for almost 40 miles.. The digital LED starts blinking when you've = hit this magical reserve... Unfortunately for us, its not a BIG wake-up = call like when you start sputtering and have to physically turn your = tank to reserve.  This leads to complacency!!!  I found out = one morning how low I was... Sput, Sput, OFF... (no reserve toggle!!) = -- nice brisk walk back home.. Fortunately I was only 1/8 of a mile = from the house!!

Brian
99 VFR
81 CB750F - with fuel reserve switch

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Purdy [mailto:purdyjeremy@XXXXXX] =
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 10:02 AM
To: DC-Cycles
Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck


I am actually surprised by all the tales of = running
out of gas.  Don't sport bikes have reserve = tanks?

When my bike starts bucking, I just reach down, = flip
to the reserve tank, and I've got another 50 miles = or
so to get to a gas station.

Of course, I don't have a low fuel light, so = maybe
bikes with fuel lights don't have reserve = tanks...

--
Jeremy Purdy
'00 Yamaha V-Star Classic - Jeade'en

------_=_NextPart_001_01C15266.71E3C960-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 11:21:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h007.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BFLGf13578 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 4177 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2001 08:21:09 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO truck.lemrow.com) (170.252.3.2) by smtp.lemrow.com (209.228.32.121) with SMTP; 11 Oct 2001 08:21:09 -0700 X-Sent: 11 Oct 2001 15:21:09 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011011111508.01fd9450@mail.lemrow.com> X-Sender: firblt@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:15:49 -0400 To: "George Cole" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Justin Lemrow Subject: Re: Question about traffic Ct in VA In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Geroge, et all, my understanding of the online system is you can take the CLASS online but you still have to go somewhere for the TEST. Justin 1999 VFR 800 Northern VA/Washington DC From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 11:31:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20101.mail.yahoo.com (web20101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BFVcf13734 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:31:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011153137.66869.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:31:37 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:31:37 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: FS: brand spanking new BMW 1200c To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii An acquiantenance of mine just, and I mean just, last week took delivery of a 1200c BMW and now needs to get completely out of MC's even as he took his first baby step because of domestic issues. (MSF student of mine a few weeks ago) He has a brand spanking new Arai helmet in Yam R1 blue. It's the top of the line model. Size M I think. The bike has custom wheels and a lot of other doodads. It should be at Morton's. Less than 50 miles I reckon. He has a size 40 Aerostich Darian stuit in day-glow Yellow with blue trim and blue (BMW color) pants. Anyone want to take a stab at it? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 11:32:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20101.mail.yahoo.com (web20101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BFWZf13737 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011153234.67055.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:32:34 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:32:34 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: FS: brand spanking new BMW 1200c To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Correction: the suit is a 2 piece Roadcrafter. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 11:45:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h001.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.115]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BFjIf13993 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:45:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 2601 invoked from network); 11 Oct 2001 08:45:12 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO truck.lemrow.com) (170.252.3.2) by smtp.lemrow.com (209.228.32.115) with SMTP; 11 Oct 2001 08:45:12 -0700 X-Sent: 11 Oct 2001 15:45:12 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011011114125.02019458@mail.lemrow.com> X-Sender: firblt@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:44:51 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Justin Lemrow Subject: pull off thanks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed last Friday I had to stop on the toll road (near where it hits 66) for a quick roadside repair. A guy in a pick-up truck was the only one who stopped or yelled anything from their window (traffic at an ultra slow crawl)in the form of help. If it was anyone on the list, thanks. luckily, it was an easy fix, but otherwise, i would have been there for a long time. Cheers, Justin PS i did get a few enthusiastic cheers from the Pontiac Sunfire loaded with like 5 girls... not helpful, but an unexpected bonus for standing on the side of the road taking your bike apart ;) 1999 VFR 800 Northern VA/Washington DC From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 11:50:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13003.mail.yahoo.com (web13003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.13]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BFoGf14070 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:50:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011152952.65785.qmail@web13003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.26.132.101] by web13003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:29:52 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:29:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Question about traffic Ct in VA To: Justin Lemrow , George Cole , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011011111508.01fd9450@mail.lemrow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Right, it's a proctored test. One of the on line classes lets you test at Comp-USA. You can schedule a day/time that's convient for you (during open hrs of course). Louis --- Justin Lemrow wrote: > Geroge, et all, > > my understanding of the online system is you can take the CLASS online but > you still have to go somewhere for the TEST. > > Justin > > 1999 VFR 800 > Northern VA/Washington DC > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 12:11:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BGBdf14323 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Oct 2001 14:49:58 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:48:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20011011140226.29185.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal I don't know anything about a V-star, but if you think you really have 50 miles to go after going to reserve - try it. Most bikes have a gallon or so of reserve (so they say), but from my experience, it's not all usable. The one time I ran out on my F3, I though I had about 40 miles on reserve. I had 22. YMMV LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner Jeremy Purdy said: I am actually surprised by all the tales of running out of gas. Don't sport bikes have reserve tanks? When my bike starts bucking, I just reach down, flip to the reserve tank, and I've got another 50 miles or so to get to a gas station. Of course, I don't have a low fuel light, so maybe bikes with fuel lights don't have reserve tanks... -- Jeremy Purdy '00 Yamaha V-Star Classic - Jeade'en _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 13:35:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BHZcf15694 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.144]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GL1006LIRWF6A@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:19:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp04.wcomnet.com by dgismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GL100J01RVFZT@XXXXXX>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:19:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by dgismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with ESMTP id <0GL100J23RVCWN@XXXXXX>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:18:48 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:18:43 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Double-whammy of Bad Luck To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: t_gimer@XXXXXX, purdyjeremy@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3BC5B853.F65A2026@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > FWIW, I track my fuel consumption by relying on my mileage (Odometer) more > than the light, but why is it so hard for bikes to include a fuel gauge? > Even my entry level ex-Katana had one. Sheesh! Same question I have about 4-way flashers. Not as useful as a reserve tank when you run out of gas, but it makes me feel better knowing the bike is more visible to BDCs if I have to start walking. Ditto using the trip-meter to track mileage on the tank. It's usually more accurate than the fuel gauge that way. I've got two trip-meters on the Connie. One is always devoted to the tank. Hork -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 13:40:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BHeff15719 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp02.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.37]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GL1002QQYDURP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:39:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp02.wcomnet.com by pmismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42259) with SMTP id <0GL100B01YDQ3C@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:39:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42259) with ESMTP id <0GL1006LPYDDDU@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:39:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:38:59 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: I-95 Exit Information To: DC Cycles List Message-id: <3BC5D933.ACD60089@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Hey all, I'm taking a little run down I-95 to Jacksonville, FL after work today, and stumbled across this neato website. Nice info source for anyone planning a southern run someday (Daytona, maybe?). http://www.usastar.com/i95/homepage.htm Now if they only had them for I-40, I-77, I-80, I-81... :) Catch y'all on the flip side. Horkster -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 14:12:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from azog.public.hq.nasa.gov (azog.public.hq.nasa.gov [198.116.65.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BICWf16359 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from woc-rwintersw2k.annapurna.com ([131.182.119.81]) by azog.public.hq.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12995 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011011140334.00b28bc8@mail.nova.org> X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:10:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: FS: brand spanking new BMW 1200c In-Reply-To: <20011011153137.66869.qmail@web20101.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:31 AM 10/11/2001 -0700, matthew patton wrote: >An acquiantenance of mine just, and I mean just, last >week took delivery of a 1200c BMW and now needs to get >completely out of MC's even as he took his first baby >step because of domestic issues. (MSF student of mine >a few weeks ago) A brand new R1200c is NOT a baby step! ;-) Hmmm... "domestic issues"... I think I'm hearing that oh-so-familiar line: "I'd *love* to ride, but my wife would *never* let me." :-) /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 14:17:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BIHRf16468 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA04905 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:13:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:13:06 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Anthem version In-Reply-To: <20011011114027.74310.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Tom wrote... > > I've stocked up on patriotic music (tell me which > > version of the National Anthem you like best!). > I'm partial to Roseanne Barr's interpretation. Hugh From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 14:27:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.89]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BIRmf16658 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:27:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-qfe3 [10.13.10.224]) by smtp-out.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9BIRQH09207 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com ([10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GL20LT00.KWC for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:27:29 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-162.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.162]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GL20LS00.5B4; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:27:28 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:27:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-895302745 Subject: Tough question. (non-moto) From: Sean Jordan To: mike@XXXXXX ( Michael Jordan), jennifer_addie@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: <90E42EA4-BE75-11D5-805B-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) --Apple-Mail-1-895302745 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Apparently, this has been going around to newspaper editors,=20 photographers, and reporters around the country:Below is a moral=20 question for you. This is an imaginary situation, but I think you will=20= find it beneficial to think through this exercise. The situation: You are in the Middle East, and there is a huge flood in=20= progress. Many homes have been lost, water supplies compromised and=20 structures destroyed. You're a freelance photographer for a news service, you're traveling=20 alone, looking for particularly poignant scenes that you can shoot. You=20= come across Osama Bin Laden who has been swept away by the floodwaters.=20= He is barely hanging on to a tree limb and is about to go under. You have to make a choice: You can either put down your camera and save=20= him, or take a Pulitzer Prize winning photograph of him as he loses his grip on the limb. So, here's the question . . . and think carefully before you answer it: Which lens would you use? "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the=20 skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-895302745 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 VerdanaApparently, this has been going around to newspaper editors, photographers, and reporters around the country:Below is a moral question for you. This is an imaginary situation, but I think you will find it beneficial to think through this exercise. The situation: You are in the Middle East, and there is a huge flood in progress. Many homes have been lost, water supplies compromised and structures destroyed. You're a freelance photographer for a news service, you're traveling alone, looking for particularly poignant scenes that you can shoot. You come across Osama Bin Laden who has been swept away by the floodwaters. He is barely hanging on to a tree limb and is about to go under. You have to make a choice: You can either put down your camera and save him, or take a Pulitzer Prize winning photograph of him as he loses his grip on the limb. So, here's the question . . . and think carefully before you answer it: Which lens would you use?=20 "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-895302745-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 14:34:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BIYbf16768 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SKeener2@XXXXXX by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id q.109.6ec7442 (16784); Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:34:24 -0400 (EDT) From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Message-ID: <109.6ec7442.28f74030@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:34:24 EDT Subject: Re: Tough question. (non-moto) To: eternity23@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/11/01 2:30:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eternity23@XXXXXX writes: > So, here's the question . . . and think carefully before you answer it: > > Which lens would you use? The one on the sniper rifle. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 14:46:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from azog.public.hq.nasa.gov (azog.public.hq.nasa.gov [198.116.65.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BIkAf17032 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from woc-rwintersw2k.annapurna.com ([131.182.119.81]) by azog.public.hq.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29942 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011011144114.00b224e8@mail.nova.org> X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:43:14 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: Tough question. (non-moto) In-Reply-To: <90E42EA4-BE75-11D5-805B-003065B452D2@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:27 PM 10/11/2001 -0400, Sean Jordan wrote: >Which lens would you use? Proper lens selection is important. Get the picture with the wide-angle, then beat on his hand with the big telephoto. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 15:14:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11002.mail.yahoo.com (web11002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.52]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BJEef17425 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011191439.10630.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.160.3.131] by web11002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:14:39 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:14:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: priceless To: cycles2 , DC-Cycles , donna , Limor , Kim Sluss MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-1459401014-1002827679=:7430" --0-1459401014-1002827679=:7430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! 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question. (non-moto) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:22:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I think the proper question is "which scope do you use?" Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: > In a message dated 10/11/01 2:30:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > eternity23@XXXXXX writes: > > > So, here's the question . . . and think carefully before you answer it: > > > > Which lens would you use? > > The one on the sniper rifle. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 15:41:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BJfEf17909 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4KXHLFM4>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:38:17 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF4A8@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: FW: Terrorism Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:38:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > [lantech] I'm forwarding this; it's the funny of the day here in my > office in DC Government. > -patti > -----Original Message----- > From: Errol Arthur > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 11:47 AM > To: CWD Staff List > Subject: Terrorism > > Latest news reports advise that a cell of 4 terrorists have been operating > in the District Government. Police Chief Ramsey reported earlier today > that 3 of the 4 have been detained. Security stated that the terrorists > Bin Sleepin, Bin Drinkin and Bin Fightin have been arrested. However, > police have not been able to locate anyone fitting the description of the > fourth cell member, Bin Workin. Police are confident that anyone who looks > like Bin Workin will be very easy to spot. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 16:10:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14606.mail.yahoo.com (web14606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BKAtf18455 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011201049.86459.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.163.173] by web14606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:10:49 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:10:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: saturday ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF4A8@CWDEXCH0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the members of my regular riding group seem to all have prior commitments this weekend, so i'm looking for some company on a 350-450 mile saturday ride. it will be a spiritied loop through the mountains of va/wva, likely departing from marshall, va at ~ 0900. this will be a "slow in the straights, faster in the twisties" type of a ride. anybody interested? -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 16:25:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BKPwf18721 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SKeener2@XXXXXX by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id m.b8.1cadd631 (3966); Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:25:44 -0400 (EDT) From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:25:43 EDT Subject: Re: Tough question. (non-moto) To: pawilson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 123 In a message dated 10/11/01 3:23:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > I think the proper question is "which scope do you use?" If the result is similar to spagetti sauce...who cares. Remember...quality is job #1. Hehehe From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 17:12:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14002.mail.yahoo.com (web14002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.93]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BLCff19573 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011211239.90417.qmail@web14002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.229.31.24] by web14002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:12:39 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:12:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: saturday ride To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011011201049.86459.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://automated-design.com/feast You're welcome ride with me. I could use someone to urge me to ride a little faster. Leon. 703-470-1167 --- Tom Gimer wrote: > the members of my regular riding group seem to all > have > prior commitments this weekend, so i'm looking for > some > company on a 350-450 mile saturday ride. it will be > a > spiritied loop through the mountains of va/wva, > likely > departing from marshall, va at ~ 0900. > > this will be a "slow in the straights, faster in the > twisties" type of a ride. > > anybody interested? > > > -- > tg > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 17:26:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.ncifcrf.gov (mail.NCIFCRF.GOV [129.43.100.100]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BLQ0f19743 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from S040091 (mitko1.NCIFCRF.GOV [129.43.47.173]) by mail.ncifcrf.gov (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9BLPwJ22329 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011011165710.00cceab0@mail.ncifcrf.gov> X-Sender: wilsonl@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:57:39 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: I'll be at the Feast too! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I'll be at FITE too- so I'll see you there! From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 17:45:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BLjVf20141 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.20.1d4b4e0c (16933) for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:45:24 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <20.1d4b4e0c.28f76cf3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:45:23 EDT Subject: Re: Double-whammy of Bad Luck To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/11/2001 12:15:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ljtanner@XXXXXX writes: > Most bikes have a gallon or so > of reserve I once made the reserve on one of my bikes larger... (Easy to do if you know how.) Anyhow I have never run any bike or anything else for that matter out of fuel as often as I ran that damn bike out of gas. "Hell I have PLENTY of gas, I have a big reserve!" John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 17:53:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BLrDf20260 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vaio ([24.6.106.133]) by femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011011215301.VBKF4209.femail27.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vaio> for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:53:01 -0700 Message-ID: <00a001c1529f$890701a0$6401a8c0@Home> From: "James Reazor" To: References: <90E42EA4-BE75-11D5-805B-003065B452D2@mac.com> Subject: Re: Tough question. (non-moto) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:56:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >Which lens would you use? I usually try not to contribute to the OT stuff but I can't resist... Well, depending on distance to subject, probably a 135mm (my favorite portrait lens). I'd shoot at f4 or 4.5 which should give a perfectly sharp image of the abject terror on that bastich's face while pleasantly softening the background. Hopefully he'd hang on long enough to crack a few shots with different setting (gotta cover the bases) and maybe even casually change film while he screams for help. -James '00 SV650 Canon A2 & AE1 From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 17:53:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20107.mail.yahoo.com (web20107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.44]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BLrnf20270 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011215346.58672.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:53:46 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:53:46 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: FS: Arai helmet (new) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii the helmet that I posted about in the BMW ad: > The Arai helmet is a RX-7RR4 in is Sport Blue > and medium size. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 17:57:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BLvYf20355 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.ff.d6db1df (16933) for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:57:21 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:57:20 EDT Subject: Re: (Not so) Tough question. (Is moto) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/11/2001 2:30:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eternity23@XXXXXX writes: > You can either put down your camera and save > him, or take a Pulitzer Prize > winning photograph I know it is not the same thing... I was once in the position of warning a young woman I was teaching to dirt ride that she was approaching a water filled ditch too fast, or getting a good photo. The photo is titled "Captain Nemos Bike" because it looks a lot like the Nautilus from Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea attacking. A light shining through a wall of water. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 19:02:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14606.mail.yahoo.com (web14606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9BN2uf21413 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011011230250.22786.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.163.173] by web14606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:02:50 PDT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:02:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: saturday ride To: Leon Begeman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011011211239.90417.qmail@web14002.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Leon Begeman wrote: > http://automated-design.com/feast > > You're welcome ride with me. I could use someone to > urge me to ride a little faster. > Leon. > 703-470-1167 damn.... now i remember why todd p. is unavailable this weekend! good luck to you, leon.... enjoy the 11 hour ride and, of course, the feast! i'd take you up on your offer and join you, but i've only got saturday to ride. > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > the members of my regular riding group seem to all > > have prior commitments this weekend, so i'm looking for > > some company on a 350-450 mile saturday ride. it will > > be a spiritied loop through the mountains of va/wva, > > likely departing from marshall, va at ~ 0900. > > > > this will be a "slow in the straights, faster in the > > twisties" type of a ride. > > > > anybody interested? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 19:57:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9BNvbf22301 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cox.rr.com ([24.168.221.109]) by mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:57:35 -0400 Message-ID: <3BC632A8.1372345B@cox.rr.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:00:40 -0400 From: Do Yin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Tom Gimer - this weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm on digest and it didn't show your email address.... A few of us will be meeting at the cineplex off 28 this saturday. from 66 it's about 1/2 mile south on route 28, cineplex on the right. we were planning on hitting 33, into W.VA. how many are showing up at marshall? if you want to leave marshall at 9am maybe we can hook at marshall up for the ride down there. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 20:09:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp8.quixnet.net ([63.65.123.58]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9C091f22460 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from boatdr (1Cust230.tnt4.lorton.va.da.uu.net [63.24.102.230]) by smtp8.quixnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA11810 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 00:08:59 GMT Message-ID: <00a001c152b1$d2404180$e666183f@quixnet.net> Reply-To: "Kevin Bechtel" From: "Kevin Bechtel" To: Subject: bike paint Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:07:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009D_01C15290.49BEE4E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C15290.49BEE4E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Noah at Better Off Bodyworks down in Dumfries/Triange. I don't have his = number handy, but he should be in directory assistance. If not, call = Denny or Joey at Crossroads Cycles in Falls Church (703) 820-3711. They = can give you his number as he is their primary (only?) painter for = repair/custom work. =20 Noah is currently working at a fiberglass repair shop. He may still = be painting on an individual basis for extra$$$$. His number is 703-441-1625 ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C15290.49BEE4E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Noah at Better Off Bodyworks down in=20 Dumfries/Triange.  I don't have his number handy, but he should be = in=20 directory assistance.  If not, call Denny or Joey at Crossroads = Cycles in=20 Falls Church (703) 820-3711.  They can give you his number as he is = their=20 primary (only?) painter for repair/custom work.
 
    Noah is currently = working at a=20 fiberglass repair shop. He may still be painting on an individual basis = for=20 extra$$$$.
          His = number is=20 703-441-1625
------=_NextPart_000_009D_01C15290.49BEE4E0-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 22:09:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9C29mf24181 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:09:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUU4duWw3+Zh2BjlNkgasnHUg=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GHHZS5LN; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:09:33 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:58:30 -0400 Subject: National Anthem Message-ID: <20011011.220520.-411811.2.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-6,8,10,12 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Jimi Hendrix? Rosanne Barr? Well, thanks for the input ;-) but I'll be going with my wife on Saturday (she really can sing) and a recorded, traditional version on Sunday. LeAnn Rhimes, Whitney Houston, Ray Charles, Lee Greenwood. Haven't made up my mind. Got a bunch of other good stuff, too. Tom Fitzpatrick CCS#80'6 (www.celticracing.com) Sponsors: *Fast Lane Cycles - fastlanecycles@XXXXXX (703)818-8890 (www.fastlanecycles.com)* *Barnacle Bill's Racing Leathers - barnacle@XXXXXX (www.racingleather.com)* *Nuts and Bolts Racing Racer Web Sites - rchapin@XXXXXX (www.nbracesites.com)* *Janet Bell TAX Preparation, Accounting and Consulting (belljan@XXXXXX)* From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 11 22:41:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from stmpy-1.cais.net (stmpy-1.cais.net [205.252.14.71]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9C2fXf24634 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from micron (dynamic10.cl6.cais.net [205.177.20.10]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f9C2fV753438 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:41:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001301c152c7$40695920$0a14b1cd@micron> From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Notes on my Down and Up Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 22:40:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Some notes on events since my May out-of-towner downer -- Back in the saddle again since being shoved off by that uncouth (uninsured, unlicensed) lady driver in New Jersey. RIP 99 Vulcan 750 at 24K (totalled), no moving violations, never down prior, no major malfunctions. (details at bottom) And, as if a Phoenix, I'm back on a 99 Vulcan 750 at 1.5K! Plug and play, as M'soft says, into all the comfort goodies stripped in May and the many other benefits of jumping from ride to ride, Pony Express-wise. I had actually been thinking of other rides, toying with a V-rod, maybe a Magna, maybe a new vn750 when the 02s came in. Didn't know. Not in a rush. Then three things happened. o--Sept. 11; o--two of my frequent paths were repaved (21st St N-P and MemBr entrance to 27 (leads to 395)). o--I was dawdling over the web (not a usual thing) when I thought, "I'll just punch V..750 into Google and see what turns up." And what turned up was the next-to-(some say better than) brandnew buy choice -- immaculate, garaged, 1500 mi most-favored-bike. For a great price. Owned by a police officer (lessening the risks, I felt). And just south of Richmond, only three hours away. Well, after burning up phone lines I jumped on a bus a few days later, checked that it seemed as vouched for and rode well, traded crisp 50s, cleared the DMV and rode it home. So far it's a fine ride. Mmmmmmmm, good. Well, there is some wrapping up to do about the downer. Firstly. To Stephen Harris -- great big gratitudes for help with the uncommon insurance situation. The combination of NJ event and estimating dealer, and uninsured driver made it trepidating for me and, initially, the insurance contact. Stephen, you added direction. Thanks. Also thanks to the dealer, Motion Enterprises of Egg Harbor, NJ for many courtesies. And to Markel Insurance which people worked through this with me to a currently comfortable conclusion. A caution: The ER experience (checkout only) the next day with Atlantic City Medical Center (downtown) says try another in the area. Their admin made at least two sleepy mistakes on (midday) checkin, the doctor's bill arrived over a month later, records were not easy to acquire, and I'd want to compare total costs (close to $600 for 10 minutes and a tetanus shot). Of course, I have to advise uninsured coverage as a must. And in this low speed "didn't see him", hindsight says probably the only thing I could have done is sound the horn as a matter of course in a congested situation (had orange helmet, red 'Stich, mod hdlite). Other advises/comments are probably better offlist to any interested. Also, the legal (criminal -- she got three tickets) process is apparently just starting four months later. (I was just subpoened as a witness.) Something to keep in mind when one thinks it's all wrapped up. Bill S./DC 99 VN750 --> Hi, listers. Twin to the demised, but I am my own bike. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. NJ event recap -- Briefly, it was a <20mph shoveoff by an at-fault no-seer from the right, in suburbia, just outside Atlantic City. Three pm on a bright day. As the '98 Nissan crossed my path I caught the left front headlight and fender, went down on my left side, and slid a few feet (bent forks, left side gear): Minor injury to me, bike finally totalled. It happened at a busy school crossing (though little traffic), so there were plenty witnesses. Instantly I was sure I'd missed something with all the reds and yellows, shadows, and poles around (stop sign, crossing guard, whatever) but the other's culpability emerged quickly . Police were called; they called tow ("done this strap thing many times"), wrote report; I signed ambulance release, then off to dealer I knew. Probably one hour down-to-dealer. I was sore but moving well. Amazingly there was no damage to boots, gloves, Aerostich suit, helmet (visor only) or full set of luggage and windsurfing gear. I did hit hard on my elbow (and hip) and the 'Stich inner liner stitching burned through the windshell to my left elbow as 'Stichrash', though the 'Stich outside armor held. And my vacation got battered. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 10:18:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9CEIif05977 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4KXHLFNB>; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:15:49 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF4AA@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Crow Bar t-shirts Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:15:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi everyone--- not sure if anyone is interested, but Bill who used to run the Crow Bar (remember that place?!) has literally boxes of T-shirts. They had them printed before the bar closed and were planning on re-opening it... which of course never happened! Now he wants to get all those t-shirts out of his apartment. If anyone on the list used to frequent the Crow Bar and wants a t-shirt, let me know; he really wants to get rid of them, and I believe as long as you cover postage and maybe a dollar for his time he'll mail them to you. Last chance to own a DC Biker Bar souvenir, right?!?! -patti From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 10:36:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9CEaCf06541 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-122-199-142.s142.apx1k.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.199.142] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15s3Q3-00043g-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:36:11 -0400 Message-ID: <00d501c1532b$8290a060$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: <20011011.220520.-411811.2.CelticRacing@juno.com> Subject: Re: National Anthem Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:37:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Fitzpatrick To: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:58 PM Subject: National Anthem > Jimi Hendrix? Rosanne Barr? Well, thanks for the input ;-) but I'll be > going with my wife on Saturday (she really can sing) and a recorded, > traditional version on Sunday. LeAnn Rhimes, Whitney Houston, Ray > Charles, Lee Greenwood. Haven't made up my mind. Got a bunch of other > good stuff, too. > Here's my 2% of a dollar. I find myself a little put off by most public "performances" of the anthem. I prefer a setting that allows public participation, rather than a performance when the audience just stands there in glum silence. It should be about honoring the nation and not about a musician attracting attention to him/herself. I'm a trained classical musician and like to sing along with gusto but it's impossible at most sporting events to try to follow some hyper-amplified crooner putting his or her "interpretation" on the tune . Ever thought about inviting a military band or chorus? Or, don't laugh, a barbershop quartet. Point being, they can lead the audience by playing or singing the tune in a straightforward style. The singers they had at VIR were abysmal, btw. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 10:39:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13002.mail.yahoo.com (web13002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.12]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9CEdof06611 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011012143948.10865.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.101.4.236] by web13002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:39:48 PDT Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:39:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Purdy Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Point taken. I have noticed that the usable range is less than what I compute it should be. For instance, I'll be going down the road, the bike starts sputtering, I switch to reserve, find a station and the bike will only take about 3.6 gallons (4.1 gallon + .9 gallon reserve tank) So, allegedly I have about 50 miles left on the reserve, but I have never trusted that calculation and thus always find a station as soon as possible. -- Jeremy Purdy '00 Yamaha V-Star Classic - Jeade'en X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Double-whammy of Bad Luck Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:48:33 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I don't know anything about a V-star, but if you think you really have 50 miles to go after going to reserve - try it. Most bikes have a gallon or so of reserve (so they say), but from my experience, it's not all usable. The one time I ran out on my F3, I though I had about 40 miles on reserve. I had 22. YMMV LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 10:47:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.mac.com ([204.179.120.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9CElJf06887 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:47:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (smtp-relay02-qfe3 [10.13.10.225]) by smtp-out.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9CEjx628701 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:45:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com ([10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GL3L2O00.FJP for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:47:12 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-162.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.162]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GL3L2N00.AAU for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:47:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:47:10 -0400 Subject: Re: National Anthem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <00d501c1532b$8290a060$bb82fea9@palladio1> Message-Id: <04323CC5-BF20-11D5-B394-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9CElKf06888 I concur with Paul. "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 12:00:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9CG0If08538 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:00:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH79WK>; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:59:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: SecaIITalkList@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: pads Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:59:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a pair of the Draggin Jeans and noticed in the new AMA mag that they our now offering knee/shin pads to be used with them. I was wondering if any you have tried these with the jeans? They are only $20 plus shipping, so they're not expensive. I've included a link if you'd like to take a look at them for yourselves. http://www.dragginjeans.com.au/products/index.htm From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 12:18:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14604.mail.yahoo.com (web14604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.84]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9CGIVf08792 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:18:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011012161829.49170.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.163.173] by web14604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:18:29 PDT Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:18:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Saturday ride To: Do Yin , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3BC632A8.1372345B@cox.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii do: i will be alone, i think. what is your intended route after 33W? if i join you guys i'll meet you at the cineplex, so please provide me some more details.... thanks --- Do Yin wrote: > i'm on digest and it didn't show your email address.... > > A few of us will be meeting at the cineplex off 28 this > saturday. from > 66 it's about 1/2 mile south on route 28, cineplex on the > right. we > were planning on hitting 33, into W.VA. > > how many are showing up at marshall? if you want to > leave marshall at > 9am maybe we can hook at marshall up for the ride down there. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 12:41:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13803.mail.yahoo.com (web13803.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.13]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9CGfIf09176 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:41:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011012164116.94803.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13803.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:41:16 PDT Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:41:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Back from Spain Trip To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just wanted to let you know that I am back safe and sound from my moto tour of Spain. WHAT A TRIP. I have to say, this was one of my best vacations every. The perfect combination of natural beauty, great motorcycle riding, good (cheap) food and drink, plus amazing sights. We rode through all of southern Spain (mostly the state of Andalusia): the cities Granada, Sevilla, Gilbraltar, etc. The mountains there are very rocky and sandy, much like the west of the US (Utah). Some really amazing riding in those moutain. Roads ranged from average (narrow roads probably built in the 50s, with neat Moorish-style guardrails) to very modern PERFECT 3 lane (2 up, 1 down). We were riding Honda TranAlp 600s. 90% of the time these were perfect bikes for navigating narrow streets, hopping curbs, etc. But on those mountains, I was dying for the power and stability of my VFR. I had one crash, which could have been a disaster. The weather was perfect until Day 8. It had not rained in southern Spain for at least 1 month. The roads were full of oil. On Day 8 (last Friday) it really rained hard for a few hours. We were on a mountain road going from Jerez to Gilbraltar. I rounded a bend (not to sharp) to see the Civil Guard attending to an accident about 100 meters away. My speed was very low already, so a I gently applied the brakes. I may have touched the rear brake, which was my downfall. Within a nanosecond, the rear wheel lost all traction. I watched the bike bounce along in front of me. We both slid about 10 feet. A tiny bit of pain in my ankle quickly went away. The bike sustained minor (busted fairing-$250) damage. Only when getting the bike off the road did we realize how dangerous the area was. Off to the side was a demolished Yamaha sportbike with the rider long gone in an ambulance. Down the road a small car was totalled (not sure if the drivers lived) and another crashed. As we were sitting there, cars rounded the bend. One locked his brakes, spinning out into the guardrail and puncturing his radiator. Car after car came around the corner to spin out (finally the police moved up there to slow people down). I turned out to be fine. As we road the next 5 miles, we saw a total of 10 accidents. So, while my breaking did cause my fall, I realized that we were essentially riding on ice so I did not feel so bad. The good thing about renting low cost bikes was that the repair bill was not $2000+, which it would have been for a BMW. The accident was a minor scare, despite the number of words devoted to it here. Lots of bikes in Spain, but not too many sportbikes. Tons of scooters of course. European attitude to 2 wheelers...which means park anywhere and do just about anything (-: Spain's nightlife did not dissapoint! Things don't get started until 11PM++ and go all night. Most days we did not start riding until noon. Since this was a ride AND tour trip, that was fine. I will be doing a website complete with pictures soon! Mark ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 14:44:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9CIiAf11182 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <42J4DH7N>; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:44:03 -0400 Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666ACAA@DCHQCLEXHQ> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'RichH@XXXXXX'" Subject: Meters Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:46:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Rich wondered, "Is there a plan to put meters at every motorcycle parking area in DC?" Dunno, some have em, some don't . . . and haven't for many years. "Does anyone know if the 4 hour limit is just for paying the meter or if you have to move it after 4 hours?" Dunno, They used to be 12 hour limits until Lockheed got the contract. However, I used to park on K next to 14th all day -- just went out 3 times a day to keep it filled with quarters. Only tickets I got were: 1. Out of time (engrossed in a task, ignored my timer) 2. Tag out of date (whoops, forgot to put on the new sticker) Kewl bugs: http://www.levelfive.tv http://www.levelfive.tv/911bugs/index.html From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 14:53:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9CIr1f11344 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <42J4DH96>; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:52:56 -0400 Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666ACAC@DCHQCLEXHQ> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Subject: Good Advice Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:54:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Most of you all know this stuff but there seem to be a few newbies for whom this would be useful. Snipped from SabMag in response to a guy who complained he had been run off the road onto the shoulder. (Tho I think he was guilty of riding in BDCs' blind spots) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:37:47 -0400 From: Robert Davis Subject: riding the shoulder twice in a week Ahoy 1) "Am I doing something wrong?" It ain't you. It's them. Most people simply cannot compute. They look in your direction, they do not see what they are looking for (a car or truck) and therefore they do not see you at all. You can tell by the blank expressions on their faces. They are not looking. They are looking for what they expect to see. 2) "Twice this week I have been cut off" It can easily happen twice in a commute. Twice a week is nothing. 3) "and I had to merge onto the shoulder to avoid a collision, ." (sic) Now, THIS part you can easily avoid. I have been riding over forty years. I have had half a dozen wrecks. Each and every freaking one of them was a car driver's fault. I got the road rash. They got the ticket. They paid a couple bucks. I replaced handlebars, brake pedals, even whole favorite bikes. But the last wreck I had was thirty years ago. What changed after six wrecks? a) I now assume all cage drivers are proven idiots guiding lethal machines. b) I consequently stay out of their way. Helmets and visors, leather and kevlar, boots and gloves are all fine and dandy. But it is space that does the work. Leather and kevlar can only help you live through a wreck which space would have avoided. Consider: If you were the only wheels on the road, what worry would you have? Ze-freaking-ro. You could ride like the wind. So if you can't have the whole road to yourself, try to be, at least, the only wheels on your piece of road. Find an open space and ride there. Never ride beside someone. Never. If there are two lanes, be in the left one. If there are three lanes, stay out of the second one. Watch every driveway like a hawk. Always have a place to escape to. When you pass someone, wait for room to clear in front of them, then pass in a rush. Get out of the pack. get away. Don't get boxed behind dawdlers. Dawdlers create a confused knot of maneuvering vehicles. Stay a good distance from rear bumpers. Get away. Stay away. Know what? This is not only safer, it is more fun, too. Because the handiest open space is usually several swooping accelerations in front of you. When I see one of these head down knuckleheads on a cafe racer crowding four feet from the bumper in front of him, with traffic on both sides, I am glad that there goes another idiot trying to soak up all the statistics bike wreck for me. As soon as the guy in front of him slams on his brakes or the guy beside him swerves over or some oblivious old lady backs out of the driveway, he is going into them head first, and his fine color-coordinated Shoei will get shoved right down his throat. All because he assumed these people around him knew he was there. They don't. They don't know you are there. You are invisible. Drive like the invisible man. You can't make them see you. But you can hang out where it won't matter. Rubber side down, brothers. Aloha Davis V65 Magna From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 19:21:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9CNLsf15643 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 19:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUudmVAMIn1/y6bgrtwKA4zg=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GHLAK5JV; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 19:21:30 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 19:17:14 -0400 Subject: RE: National Anthem & Summit this weekend Message-ID: <20011012.191714.-531009.4.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6-7,10-11,18-19 From: Tom Fitzpatrick I agree, and am impressed with, the comments about the dignity of the National Anthem. I agree it is not, or should not be, a self promoting performance. I've tried to find the best CD's I could on short notice in a high demand period. If Paul or someone wants to talk about a classical group, band, quartet or some other alternative, I'd be glad to consider it for next year. Realistically, a CD works best. They always show up on time, and are a known quantity. So, I'll keep them as a backup. I am scheduled to be the CCS announcer for the Mid-Atlantic next year, and want to work on an effective program over the winter. Keep the suggestions coming, on this or any other area of the job. Speaking of coming. Is anybody coming tomorrow or Sunday? Sure hope to raise some cash. Let me know who is there from DC Cycles (someone come to the tower), and I'll shout out a big hello. Parade laps both days, pumpkin carving Saturday. Donations accepted all weekend. Story made page A2 of today's Potomac News, and I got fliers out last Monday to most shops in the area. Especially the Harley shops, since those guys have all the money ;-) Tom From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 12 20:58:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9D0wkf17370 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 20:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO (1Cust48.tnt38.tco2.da.uu.net [63.48.137.48]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9D0wXD09024 for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 17:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000d01c15382$5cb4ef20$3089303f@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: O/T: Position to fill Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 20:59:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hey, We're up Poo-Poo Creek w/out a paddle here, people. My company needs a mechanic badly. If you or someone you know can help, then by all means... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Preston Leyshon > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 9:05 AM > > To: All Employees > > Subject: Dear CV friends. > > > > > > > > > > > > My name is Preston Leyshon, Equipment Manager here at Chapel > > Valley Landscape Co. > > > > Due to our continuing strong landscape market, and growing > > client demands, the equipment department is currently seeking > > to employ an additional employee for our VA Shop operations. > > ( Sterling/Dulles VA) > > > > This person needs to have strong people skills, as well as > > mechanical understanding. > > Our open position of Shop Supervisor needs to be filled immediately. > > > > If needed, we will grow the right individual into this > > position, who may start employment as a Large Engine > > Mechanic, or Assistant Shop Supervisor. > > > > This person will perform many duties, with our equipment > > trucks, cars, tractors). > > > > If you could, please pass this information along to your > > friends, family, and associates you come into contact with, I > > would appreciate it. > > > > Please have any interested parties, contact me at > > 301-924-5400 ext. 141. > > or send resume or questions to my e-mail address ; > > prestonl@XXXXXX > > > > Thank you for your assistance, Preston Tell 'em I sent ya. Howard From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 14 18:52:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pimout2-int.prodigy.net (pimout2-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.101]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9EMqXP21682 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:52:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CJ144294A (A040-0726.MLE2.splitrock.net [64.198.132.218]) by pimout2-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f9EMq4n137290 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:52:09 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: Subject: Pics from Sunday's CCS Races 15 & 16 Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:51:59 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20011012.191714.-531009.4.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Went up to Summit Point Sunday afternoon and caught the last few races of the season. I shot some pics for the helluvit. So if any of you guys were racing the last few heats of the day, check out the link for some free pics... http://www.robcurtis.com/CCS Rob C. Rob Curtis 1992 Seca II VA "H8CARZ" Staff Photographer Army Times Publishing Co. Springfield, VA http://www.robcurtis.com __________________ "To be persuasive, we must be believable. To be believable, we must be credible. To be credible, we must be truthful." From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 14 20:57:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9F0vPP23468 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:57:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d478406837 ([216.174.23.103]) by smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GL82NC00.B5O for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:57:12 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: My Summit Point pics from Sunday Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:56:36 -0400 Message-ID: <00a601c15514$415b3d90$1606030a@d478406837> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Here are some more photos from Sunday. Hard to believe it's over for the season. http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/racephotos/011014/011014.htm Gary Foreman, TL Owners Club mailto:gary@XXXXXX TL Owners Club: http://www.tl1000.com TL Owners Board: http://server5.ezboard.com/btlownersboard TL Message Board: http://www.voy.com/14718/ Yahoo TL Pit: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tl1000pit From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 08:34:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FCYAP03916 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-30.patriot.net [209.249.181.30]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9FCY8N30136 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:34:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3BCAD645.933C63E3@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:27:49 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Hello all... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Me'n most of the Harley survived a short lazy 2600 mile putt. The rear tire, kinda shaky when I left, had to be changed in Chattooga TN and the rear brake pads as well. The mechanic, a frisky young thang named Tammy, took it for a test ride and declared my scoot a "fine runnin' bike". Yeah, yeah, I bet you tell all the guys that. 7 long ride days - 3 of them in the rain. The IBM laptop survived the Harley vibes and contains a journal of my trip, maybe I'll post it and bore the hell out of y`all. Oh yeah, what we (M/C riders) need. I have an average temp/rainfall chart for the nation, and a list of wierd M/C laws for the states, but NO BOOZE LAWS! Imagine this - after a hard day on the road you settle in and your paw reachs for a well deserved brew - but, DRY COUNTY! I rode an extra 50 miles to get to a wet county, only to discover the damn bible thimpers made them go dry on Sunday. Crappers... Bill From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 09:46:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f136.hotmail.com [216.32.181.136]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FDkKP05109 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 06:35:00 -0700 Received: from 63.23.214.210 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 13:35:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.23.214.210] From: "Kenneth Shephard" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hello all... Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:35:00 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2001 13:35:00.0620 (UTC) FILETIME=[303674C0:01C1557E] Bill, How do you carry the laptop on the bike, I've been using a Backpack from Compaq to carry mine on the Sportster and the Buell, but thats a real PIA. Are you running something with hard bags you can pack it in, or some other way that works. Anbody else with suggestions? Ken S........ Ride Safe and Forever Free Inwood WV HDKnight@XXXXXX AIM HDKnight1 ICQ #32289311 >From: "William J. Huson" >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" >7 long ride days - 3 of them in the rain. The IBM laptop survived the >Harley vibes and contains a journal of my trip, maybe I'll post it and >bore the hell out of y`all. thimpers made them go dry on Sunday. Crappers... > >Bill > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 10:28:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FESaP05717 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.38]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GL90027M45VWW@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:27:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GL900J0145QHG@XXXXXX>; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:27:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GL900GFE44UIR@XXXXXX>; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:26:54 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:26:37 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Hello all... To: "William J. Huson" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Message-id: <3BCAF21D.D27870FD@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <3BCAD645.933C63E3@patriot.net> "William J. Huson" wrote: > > and a list of wierd M/C laws for the states That might be worth posting here, seeing as how so many of us like to head South on two wheels for little getaways. Hork -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 10:31:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FEVhP05795 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SKeener2@XXXXXX by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id e.121.592ed24 (3976); Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Message-ID: <121.592ed24.28fc4d42@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 10:31:30 EDT Subject: Re: Pics from Sunday's CCS Races 15 & 16 To: rmcurtis@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 123 In a message dated 10/14/01 6:54:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rmcurtis@XXXXXX writes: > Went up to Summit Point Sunday afternoon and caught the last few races of > the season. I shot some pics for the helluvit. So if any of you guys were > racing the last few heats of the day, check out the link for some free > pics... http://www.robcurtis.com/CCS Hey Rob....very nice pictures!!! (I'm the last one on the page...rider #3) Keener From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 11:14:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11107.mail.yahoo.com (web11107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.154]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9FFE4P06420 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:14:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011015151403.80501.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:14:03 PDT Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:14:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Pics from Sunday's CCS Races 15 & 16 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <121.592ed24.28fc4d42@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So? How'd you do? I heard you were involved in a tight race for the championship. Chris Weaver --- SKeener2@XXXXXX wrote: > Hey Rob....very nice pictures!!! (I'm the last one > on the page...rider #3) > > Keener __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 11:47:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20106.mail.yahoo.com (web20106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.43]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9FFlZP07073 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011015154733.81518.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:47:33 PDT Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 08:47:33 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: my Summit experience To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This season unfortunately finished on a very traumatic note. Race #1, lap 1 a rider coming out of turn 10 experienced a horrible tank-slapper and tried unsuccessfully to reign it in. According to a couple of eye-witnesses I talked to he positioned himself far forward on-top of the front wheel and may have rolled off the throttle to some extent. In any event when the bike finally pitched for the last time he was hurtled head-first into the concrete wall abreast of the pits and was instantly killed. I'm very sorry that I don't have his CCS number nor his name. I expect there will be some kind of announcement from MARRC or CCS for donations and funeral details. I am sure his friends and family will be mourning for some time. I was in that race and way toward the back and only came upon the bike in the middle of the track after rounding turn 10 mere seconds behind him I guess. The red flags weren't even out yet. The highway patrol showed up and all activities ceased for 2 hours after which time the days events were restarted with the exception that all races were converted to 7-lap sprints. I had missed both practices that morning due to my arrival time and getting dinged by tech for not having quite enough yellow on my tail section. (it had passed tech the 3 previous times). So I was not exactly comfortable with the bike nor track as I was on virgin rubber. Even so, I was doing remarkably better than my previous outing in September - turning consistent 1:36's instead of 1:44's. That's what a Rodger Lyle practice day will do for you I guess. I had a decent start and while I started at the very last row I managed to power up onto a couple of folks and pass them. Lap 5, turn 5 I got lapped by a HW and it rattled my concentration. I got some of it back by turn 6 but going into 7 I was for some stupid reason watching him and the guy I'd been dicing with the last couple laps instead of sighting my line. I ran wide on 7, hugging the extreme edge and then faced a problem with 8. That damn survival instinct. I am sure I could have made the turn if I'd just have given a good shove but I didn't. I made it most of the way and then off into the lunar scape of grass/dirt. I don't recall what transpired exactly but I do remember bouncing off the tire wall after a couple of tumbles. My shoulder dislocated which was to be expected and after the ambulance crew arrived they helped me get out of my leathers and within about a minute it popped back into place on it's own. My left fore-arm (the site of a big scar from my July accident) hurt a bit and I had a few bruises but I essentially walked away from it. Thank God. The bike wasn't quite so lucky. It looked like it had plowed into the tires front first (and probably still upright) destroying all fiberglass, and bending the front mounting bracket all the way back. Fork tubs are bent, hole in brake line and a control or two snapped clean off. And I don't know what else is lurking. Still it's not destroyed. Next year I think I'm going for the naked look anyway... So, it was not exactly a successful conclusion to my first foray into racing. But I expect to be back next year and this time with both the GS500 and a SRX based single in a GS frame. I'm looking forward to it. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 11:52:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FFqIP07161 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SKeener2@XXXXXX by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.122.5db6240 (3976); Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:52:00 -0400 (EDT) From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Message-ID: <122.5db6240.28fc601f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:51:59 EDT Subject: Re: Pics from Sunday's CCS Races 15 & 16 To: chris_vtr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 123 > So? How'd you do? I heard you were involved in a tight > race for the championship. I ended up winning GT Lights Lightweight Superbike Lightweight GP I lost Heavyweight Sportsman & Supertwins. I kinda expected this...but Iost them to good friends and great racers. Keener From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 11:56:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FFubP07175 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SKeener2@XXXXXX by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.85.1174ffab (3976); Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:54:51 -0400 (EDT) From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85.1174ffab.28fc60cb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:54:51 EDT Subject: Re: my Summit experience To: pattonme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 123 In a message dated 10/15/01 11:50:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pattonme@XXXXXX writes: > I'm very sorry that I don't have his CCS number nor > his name. I expect there will be some kind of > announcement from MARRC or CCS for donations and > funeral details. I am sure his friends and family will > be mourning for some time. Scott Gowland CCS #148 WERA #48 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 12:00:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13905.mail.yahoo.com (web13905.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.68]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9FG0NP07312 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011015160022.75262.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [4.21.76.2] by web13905.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:00:22 PDT Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 09:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Re: my Summit experience To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011015154733.81518.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Glad to hear you survived your crash with minimal damage. Sounds like you were doing good up till that point. The WERA BBS has some information about the rider who crashed at the beginning of the race. I was sorry to read about, but relieved that it was no one I new from the list. Keith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 12:04:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FG4BP07330 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9FG46k28450; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:04:07 -0400 From: Brian Roach Reply-To: roach@XXXXXX To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: my Summit experience Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:03:21 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20011015154733.81518.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20011015154733.81518.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01101512032100.15880@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 15 October 2001 11:47, matthew patton wrote: > I'm very sorry that I don't have his CCS number nor > his name. I expect there will be some kind of > announcement from MARRC or CCS for donations and > funeral details. I am sure his friends and family will > be mourning for some time. The rider killed at Summit Point this weekend was Scott Gowland. Scott was team owner and captain of the SpeedWerks "B" team in the WERA National Endurance series, and a friend. If you've ever looked at the racing photos on the www.dccycles.com web site, that's Scott's team Laura and I were part of last year in the VIR endurance race. In the team photographs he's the guy in the blue polo shirt and white shorts. He will be missed. Godspeed Scott. - Brian Roach From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 16:04:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FK4ZP11285 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUhuZ71cHb+dHk+HOSV7xu3Q=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GHTNGW5Y; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:04:09 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:56:27 -0400 Subject: Scott Gowland Passed On Message-ID: <20011015.160033.-411929.6.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,4-5,7-10 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Scott Gowland, CCS Expert #148 and WERA #886, passed away this last Saturday, October 13th. I did not know Scott personally, but by all accounts, he was a great friend and racing colleague. He is sorely missed. Information on services in memory of Scott are on the MARRC web site, in the News section, at http://marrc.org/html_docs/news01/1014.gowland.html Godspeed, Scott. Tom From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 17:59:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14610.mail.yahoo.com (web14610.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.242]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9FLxFP13125 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011015215914.19276.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.163.173] by web14610.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:59:13 PDT Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:59:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: saturday ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011011230250.22786.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii follow-up.... i met listers steve beck and judy lafollette in marshall, va on saturday to enjoy a day in the hills. two duc superbikes in the same group was a first for me (and both yellow too!) we headed south and west and met up with steve broadstreet and john strang near franklin, wva. unfortunately, steve broadstreet had a prior commitment and had to head for the slab almost immediately. what a perfect day for riding though! -- great weather, very little traffic and no police presence at all. our route from marshall was 647 - 635 - 211W - 81S - 33W - 220N - 55E....i think i ended up with approx. 300 miles for the day. just about the perfect distance for a day on the torture-rack.... steve, judy, steve, and john: thanks for keeping me company and getting my mind off of the war/terrorist shit. let's do it again soon. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 18:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe157.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.150]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FM5vP13266 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:53:54 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [63.15.231.184] From: "Patrick Caulfield" To: "DCCycles" Subject: Need some mechanical tips. Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:00:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 6.10.0016.1624 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0000_01C155A3.46C17BC0" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2001 21:53:54.0286 (UTC) FILETIME=[E21168E0:01C155C3] ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C155A3.46C17BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, if anyone can point me the right direction on getting my bike ('9= 8 CBR600F3) started I'd be grateful! What happened: I pulled the spark plugs out to check them and make sure = they aren't worn. They were fine, I carefully threaded them back in, set= them, and made sure the spark plug caps snapped on all they way. (I qua= druple checked this, even did it again and again). Symptoms: Bike turns over, nothings catches. (The bike ran perfect befo= re I messed with it). Gave it full choke, no throttle, still nothing. G= ave it a little throttle, still nothing. The next day (after recharging the battery) I gave it a try and it starte= d to fire, but only a few pops. The second day (after recharging the battery) it pops a little more. =20 My guess is the engine is flooded. I've turned the fuel and the choke of= f when I fire it up I smell gas, so that must mean it's flooded? How lon= g would I have fire the ignition to burn up all that extra gas? =20 I made sure all the spark plugs were working. I tested it as my Haynes m= anual said and they provide a nice spark. Can anyone recommend the best way to trouble shoot this problem? =20 Thanks, Chayne Caulfield ------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C155A3.46C17BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All, if any= one can point me the right direction on getting my bike ('98 CBR600F3) st= arted I'd be grateful!
 
What happened:  = I pulled the spark plugs out to check them and make sure they aren't worn= .  They were fine, I carefully threaded them back in, set them, and = made sure the spark plug caps snapped on all they way.  (I quadruple= checked this, even did it again and again).
 
Symptoms:  Bike turns over, nothings catches.  (The bike ran p= erfect before I messed with it).  Gave it full choke, no throttle, s= till nothing.  Gave it a little throttle, still nothing.
=  
The next day (after recharging the battery) I gave it a= try and it started to fire, but only a few pops.
 
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The second day (after recharging the battery) it pops a little more= . 
 
My guess is the engine is flooded.&n= bsp; I've turned the fuel and the choke off when I fire it up I smell gas= , so that must mean it's flooded?  How long would I have fire the ig= nition to burn up all that extra gas? 
 
I made sure all the spark plugs were working.  I tested it as my Ha= ynes manual said and they provide a nice spark.
 
Can anyone recommend the best way to trouble shoot this problem?=  
 
Thanks,
Chayne Caulfield<= BR>
------=_NextPart_001_0000_01C155A3.46C17BC0-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 18:36:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ashd1-1.relay.mail.uu.net (ashd1-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.245]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FMaeP13813 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rci14.RACALCOMM.COM by mr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: [63.90.249.34]) id QQlkxe05534; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:36:38 GMT From: Jay.StPeter@XXXXXX Received: by RCI14 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4S6807QC>; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:36:27 -0400 Message-ID: <15AB66EB3709D4118C0900508BC74D9FDF6F51@RCI14> To: Patrick_Caulfield@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re:Need some mechanical tips. Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:36:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Chayne, My F2 would eat a few plugs every so often. I'd replace them if you are going to hassle with removing them. They are a little expensive, but not too bad. What was the problem that caused you to even check the plugs? The F2 also needed carb cleaning if it sat for a while (not necessarily a long while ... couple of months). Seems like the act of trying to start with gunky carbs would foul the plugs as well. Then I'd usually get some backfiring while trying to start. Did you do anything else? Are you sure you hooked the vaccum petcock back up correctly if you removed the tank? Something that bit me in the ass a few times. The little skinny tube goes from the carb to the petcock (where the on/off/res switch is) not to the little tube on the bottom of the tank. Also make sure it didn't pull loose from the carb. If you got the tank right, I'd start with the plugs. You might of cracked one when playing with them. Jay St. Peter This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This communication represents the originator's personal views and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of Thales Communications, Inc. If you are not the original recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error, and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please immediately notify Administrator@XXXXXX. From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 19:36:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FNasP14989 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9FNaok29302; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:36:50 -0400 From: laura granato To: Brian Roach , matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: my Summit experience Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:36:04 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20011015154733.81518.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> <01101512032100.15880@firewall.dcc-racing.org> In-Reply-To: <01101512032100.15880@firewall.dcc-racing.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01101519360416.11765@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > The rider killed at Summit Point this weekend was Scott Gowland. > > Scott was team owner and captain of the SpeedWerks "B" team in the WERA > National Endurance series, and a friend. If you've ever looked at the > racing photos on the www.dccycles.com web site, that's Scott's team Laura > and I were part of last year in the VIR endurance race. In the team > photographs he's the guy in the blue polo shirt and white shorts. > > He will be missed. > > Godspeed Scott. > I have to add to Brian's comments, he will be missed. Scott was a friendly guy who really enjoyed racing, and died doing something he loved to do. He was a good racer and a friend to all of us. My heart especially goes out to his fiance, (as well as his family and friends) as I couldn't imagine going through that. Godspeed, Scott. I hope you're riding some beautiful track in heaven!!!! Laura From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 19:45:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe8.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.55]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FNjFP15177 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cox.rr.com ([24.168.221.109]) by mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:44:48 -0400 Message-ID: <3BCB75B1.4BFF434@cox.rr.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:48:01 -0400 From: Do Yin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 10/15/01 References: <200110152300.f9FN02514198@dirty.meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom We saw you on 33. just after the crazy, twisty section there's that old fashion gas station/market at the bottom of the mountain. I think one of the ducatis almost nailed the rider in front of her as they were pulling away. We rode in exactly when you guys were leaving. if the weather holds we're thinking about doing it again next weekend. let me know if you're in. > _ _ _ _ > .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. > (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) > > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:59:13 -0700 (PDT) > From: Tom Gimer > Subject: Re: saturday ride > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > follow-up.... > > i met listers steve beck and judy lafollette in marshall, > va on saturday to enjoy a day in the hills. two duc > superbikes in the same group was a first for me (and both > yellow too!) we headed south and west and met up with > steve broadstreet and john strang near franklin, wva. > unfortunately, steve broadstreet had a prior commitment and > had to head for the slab almost immediately. what a > perfect day for riding though! -- great weather, very > little traffic and no police presence at all. > > our route from marshall was 647 - 635 - 211W - 81S - 33W - > 220N - 55E....i think i ended up with approx. 300 miles for > the day. just about the perfect distance for a day on the > torture-rack.... > > steve, judy, steve, and john: thanks for keeping me company > and getting my mind off of the war/terrorist shit. let's > do it again soon. > > -- > tg From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 19:50:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FNolP15301 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-29.patriot.net [209.249.181.29]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9FNohN31206; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:50:43 -0400 Message-ID: <3BCB74D7.B4DF22C6@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:44:23 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kenneth Shephard CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Hello all... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stuff laptop in the free nylon case that came with it, stuff that in the HD (tm) bagliner, stuff a few leftover clothes in the empty spots, stuff the whole mess in the hard bag, slam and lock lid - happy motoring. Bill Kenneth Shephard wrote: > Bill, > > How do you carry the laptop on the bike, I've been using a Backpack from > Compaq to carry mine on the Sportster and the Buell, but thats a real PIA. > Are you running something with hard bags you can pack it in, or some other > way that works. Anbody else with suggestions? > > Ken S........ > Ride Safe and Forever Free > Inwood WV > HDKnight@XXXXXX > AIM HDKnight1 > ICQ #32289311 > > >From: "William J. Huson" > >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" > >7 long ride days - 3 of them in the rain. The IBM laptop survived the > >Harley vibes and contains a journal of my trip, maybe I'll post it and > >bore the hell out of y`all. > thimpers made them go dry on Sunday. Crappers... > > > >Bill > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 19:57:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9FNvVP15402 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-29.patriot.net [209.249.181.29]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9FNvDN32319; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:57:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3BCB765D.7B21E25@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:50:53 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: Hello all... References: <3BCAD645.933C63E3@patriot.net> <3BCAF21D.D27870FD@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I headed north to MI and then south. Methinks M/C laws are on the web somewhere - AMA site? My Rand McNally map book had them but they're kinda old now - too cheap to buy a new one after I discovered states give maps away fer free at their welcome centers. I seem to recall in Alabama the passenger has to be at least 7 years old, unless she's your wife... Bill Dale Horstman wrote: > That might be worth posting here, seeing as how > so many of us like to head South on two wheels > for little getaways. > > Hork > -- > MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! > Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 20:27:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r10.mx.aol.com (imo-r10.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.106]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9G0RqP15899 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:27:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.2d.128b22a1 (4068) for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:27:50 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <2d.128b22a1.28fcd906@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:27:50 EDT Subject: Re: Need some mechanical tips. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2d.128b22a1.28fcd906_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 --part1_2d.128b22a1.28fcd906_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patrick_Caulfield@XXXXXX writes: > Can anyone recommend the best way to trouble shoot this problem? Sounds like you might have put the wires on the wrong cylinders. I've done that before and it had the same symptoms you describe. HTH, Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_2d.128b22a1.28fcd906_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patrick_Caulfield@XXXXXX writes:


Can anyone recommend the best way to trouble shoot this problem?  


Sounds like you might have put the wires on the wrong cylinders. I've done that before and it had the same symptoms you describe.
HTH,
Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R --part1_2d.128b22a1.28fcd906_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 15 22:38:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9G2cwP17819 for ; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.com ([24.15.187.164]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011016023852.ELHU17918.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX>; Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:38:52 -0700 Message-ID: <3BCB9C37.AB8C5AC6@home.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 22:32:23 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick_Caulfield@XXXXXX CC: SBave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need some mechanical tips. References: <2d.128b22a1.28fcd906@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve suggested: >> Can anyone recommend the best way to trouble shoot this problem? > > Sounds like you might have put the wires on the wrong cylinders. I've > done that before and it had the same symptoms you describe. That could be a likely cause. But if the plug wires are ok and on the correct plugs, and the bike is actually flooded, open the throttle the whole way when cranking the bike over. This usually lets it fire right up. Good luck, Horkster -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 01:08:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay2.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9G58XP19956 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d478406837 ([216.174.23.205]) by smtprelay2.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GLA8Y200.IP8 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:08:26 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: Scott Gowland, RIP Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 01:07:56 -0400 Message-ID: <003b01c15600$84fdaa50$1606030a@d478406837> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01101512032100.15880@firewall.dcc-racing.org> http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/racephotos/010610/0610-65.jpg Gary From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 07:50:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds1.osc.uscg.mil (cgds1.osc.uscg.mil [152.121.49.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9GBo9P26473 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:50:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil by CGDS1.osc.uscg.mil with ESMTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:50:07 -0400 Received: by hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WHM1XFC>; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:50:25 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'Patrick_Caulfield@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Trouble shooting Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:49:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" * Fuel pump? Pumping fuel? fuel pump or fuel pump reset button? Clogged Fuel Filter? Tainted fuel? Fuel tank corrosion? Fuel take inline mesh clogged? Carbs or EFI? If carbs, check the bowls, unscrew the jets clean them in solvent and replace. Might as well put some new carb bowl gaskets on while you're at it. * Got fuel, got spark. Got batt. Hmmmm. Are all your vacuum hoses hooked back up? Are your hoses leaking? * Timing? Timing belt/chain? Timing belt cutoff switch (if you have one) I can't wait to see this thread develop. my 2cents. gb From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 09:46:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from xng-smtpca2.intra.cbrichardellis.com (smtp5.cbre.com [205.254.2.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9GDktP28386 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by xng-smtpca2.intra.cbcommercial.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WV6RKQB>; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:41:27 -0700 Message-ID: <811965C3FC58D211885D00805F655B4802A67E11@xng-tyson.intra.cbcommercial.com> From: "Fennell, Bill @ Tysons Corner" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Harley For Sale Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 06:32:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C15646.EFBD3AE0" This message is in MIME format. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C15646.EFBD3AE0-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 10:11:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9703.mail.yahoo.com (web9703.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.139]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9GEBCP28738 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011016141111.38850.qmail@web9703.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.45] by web9703.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:11:11 PDT Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: laptop sleeve To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If anyone else is interested.. "Kenneth Shephard" wrote... >>> How do you carry the laptop on the bike? I was pretty excited about getting hard luggage on my Triumph, anticipating riding without the cumbersome backpack or non-secure tankbag. But when I tried to put the laptop in my new hard bag, the dern laptop case was too big. I then bought one of these: http://www.ebags.com/products/index.cfm?fuseaction=image&ModelID=4488&bb_id=s26&Sku=4488&view=xlrg&sub_site_ID=26 Jansport Laptop Sleeve (40937) ...and put that in the saddlebag. It fits an IBM thinkpad perfectly. HTH, Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 10:17:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13804.mail.yahoo.com (web13804.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.14]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9GEHeP28882 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011016141740.28542.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:17:40 PDT Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:17:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Scott Gowland, RIP To: Gary Foreman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <003b01c15600$84fdaa50$1606030a@d478406837> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii He looked fast. That is the best compliment I can give him (not knowing him). It always hurts to lose one of the family...... Mark --- Gary Foreman wrote: > > http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/racephotos/010610/0610-65.jpg > > Gary > ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 10:39:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9707.mail.yahoo.com (web9707.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.165]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9GEdnP29197 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:39:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011016143949.34312.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.45] by web9707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:39:49 PDT Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:39:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Hello all... To: bhuson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bill is... "too cheap to buy a new one after I discovered states give maps away fer free at their welcome centers." FYI, These state-provided maps are the only ones Kinkos will copy for you. Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 15:32:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from usn-dc5.usnews.com ([209.116.158.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9GJWjP04028 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:32:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.150.101.26] by usn-dc5.usnews.com (NTMail 6.04.0010/NU7436.01.51b8aca2) with ESMTP id iwpfdaaa for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:30:58 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011016153026.00bae720@ntpop.usnews.com> X-Sender: editboser@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:32:32 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ulrich Boser Subject: lap top Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed hello, i am on digest version and so i am delayed in saying: no difficulties carrying my lap top in my backpack. i dont quite trust putting it into soft saddle bags, however, heat and vibration are my concerns. any other persons have problems? ub From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 15:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from azog.public.hq.nasa.gov (azog.public.hq.nasa.gov [198.116.65.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9GJxKP04427 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from odinseat.annapurna.com (dhcp-2.it.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.119.242]) by azog.public.hq.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29602 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011016154219.00a9a648@mail.nova.org> X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:52:39 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: lap top In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20011016153026.00bae720@ntpop.usnews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:32 PM 10/16/2001, Ulrich Boser wrote: >i am on digest version and so i am delayed in saying: no difficulties >carrying my lap top in my backpack. i dont quite trust putting it into >soft saddle bags, however, heat and vibration are my concerns. any other >persons have problems? I carried a variety of laptops in the hard saddlebags of a Harley FLH (and what vibrates more, I ask you?) for a couple of years, and never had a problem. I used a Targus NotePac Lite case, which was the smallest case that would fit the laptop alone, and it had an external pocket for the power supply and cable. [Not to start a religious war, but Dells fall apart regardless of how gently they are handled, and IBM ThinkPads are really well-built, ... IMO.] I might not have been so brave if the laptops belonged to me, but I was successful nonetheless. :-) If you want to skip the saddlebags, Case Logic makes a nice "Nylon Computer Sling" pack "NLS1". It has a single wide strap, courier bag style. It has a cell phone case on the strap, so you can position the phone up on your shoulder where you can hear it. Works well for short commutes. Case Logic has a variety of neoprene computer sleeves and whatnot, too. www.caselogic.com /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 16:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ashd1-1.relay.mail.uu.net (ashd1-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.245]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9GKNMP04862 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rci14.RACALCOMM.COM by mr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: [63.90.249.34]) id QQllan10267 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:23:31 GMT From: Jay.StPeter@XXXXXX Received: by RCI14 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4S6808XS>; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:23:20 -0400 Message-ID: <15AB66EB3709D4118C0900508BC74D9FDF6F55@RCI14> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: lap top Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:23:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" If you're gonna use a backpack to carry your laptop, go here: http://www.spireusa.com/ There's no comparison to anything else out there. I bought one of these as my 4th laptop backpack because they were wearing out from commuting. Anything they sell at the computer stores are junk as far as I'm concerned. The shoulder pads of my jackets/stitch seemed to just tear 'em up. Worth the extra 25% cost IMHO. Very comfortable and feels lighter than any others because of the way it fits on the back. Plus, it's still going and I've had it 3x as long as any of the others, looks brand new as a matter of fact. I've got the original Zoom BTW. I've also strapped it onto the seat of my ZX9R and never had any related laptop problems (and I have a Dell, which I agree are very fragile, they are just the only ones to offer a really good graphics engine in a laptop) Jay St. Peter This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 16:40:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9GKePP05106 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-3.patriot.net [209.249.181.3]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9GKeK631220; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:40:21 -0400 Message-ID: <3BCC99BB.5C64DE4E@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:34:03 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Winters CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: lap top References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011016154219.00a9a648@mail.nova.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob Winters wrote: > At 03:32 PM 10/16/2001, Ulrich Boser wrote: > >i am on digest version and so i am delayed in saying: no difficulties > >carrying my lap top in my backpack. i dont quite trust putting it into > >soft saddle bags, however, heat and vibration are my concerns. any other > >persons have problems? > > I carried a variety of laptops in the hard saddlebags of a Harley FLH (and > what vibrates more, I ask you?) for a couple of years, and never had a > problem. I used a Targus NotePac Lite case, which was the smallest case > that would fit the laptop alone, and it had an external pocket for the > power supply and cable. > > [Not to start a religious war, but Dells fall apart regardless of how > gently they are handled, and IBM ThinkPads are really well-built, ... IMO.] Mine is a ThinkPad - still going strong after many Harley vibe miles... > > > I might not have been so brave if the laptops belonged to me, but I was > successful nonetheless. :-) > > If you want to skip the saddlebags, Case Logic makes a nice "Nylon Computer > Sling" pack "NLS1". It has a single wide strap, courier bag style. It has a > cell phone case on the strap, so you can position the phone up on your > shoulder where you can hear it. Works well for short commutes. WHOA! Cell phoning on a motorcycle - way cool! From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 17:02:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9GL2SP05471 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:02:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9GL2Pk31096; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:02:25 -0400 From: laura granato To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: my Summit experience Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:01:37 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20011015154733.81518.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20011015154733.81518.qmail@web20106.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01101617013717.11765@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 15 October 2001 11:47, matthew patton wrote: > > > II got some of it back by > turn 6 but going into 7 I was for some stupid reason > watching him and the guy I'd been dicing with the last > couple laps instead of sighting my line. I ran wide on > 7, hugging the extreme edge and then faced a problem > with 8. At some point we all target fixate on the track. It's hard not to, especially as a beginner when we're trying to figure so many things out. Call this a learning experience...it's tough when we get passed by the faster guys, because it definitely does rattle our concentration, but more time on the track will get you used to that, so don't worry... That damn survival instinct. I am sure I could > have made the turn if I'd just have given a good shove > but I didn't. A. I guarantee next time you will give it a good shove, because you don't want to crash again...how do I know this? because I've been there. Every time I think I'm going into a turn too hot, or I"m not going to make...I try, because I'd rather try, where chances are I *will* make it rather than won't...and if I don't, I'll more than likely just low side...better odds... B. You should applaud yourself because you are doing something many racers don't do, but should be...and that's evaluating your mistakes...if you can always do that while you are on the track...it will make you a better racer, and a better rider...so many people crash and "don't know why." there almost always is a why and how it could change next time. by evaluating this, you are one step ahead of a lot of people...good job! Crashing sucks...but we all learn from it. and I'd rather crash on the track on the street...wouldn't you agree? > So, it was not exactly a successful conclusion to my > first foray into racing. But I expect to be back next > year and this time with both the GS500 and a SRX based > single in a GS frame. I'm looking forward to it. Look forward to seeing you out there next year. Congrats for getting out there. sorry you experienced your first crash. sucks, don't it? ;-) Well, we're off to Daytona for some racing then some relaxing...talk to you guys next week. Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 18:32:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9GMWJP06831 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-185-116.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.185.116]) by hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02204 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 15:32:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011016183025.00aa9ee0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:32:10 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: lap top In-Reply-To: <15AB66EB3709D4118C0900508BC74D9FDF6F55@RCI14> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Kenneth Cole, of all places, actually sells a black ballistic nylon backpack specifically designed to carry a laptop and accessories. Dunno yet about how long it'll last, but it's nice -- well-padded and comfy. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 20:49:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9H0nWP09477 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO (1Cust73.tnt10.tco2.da.uu.net [65.230.243.73]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9H0nLD06789 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000d01c156a5$b41433e0$49f3e641@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: Georgia on my mind... Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:50:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hey, Me and a bud are probably Hotlanta-bound next May for the AMA Kahuna Grande Nationals, and I was wondering if any of you had been there before (Braselton, that is) and would be willing to share advice as to the best places to stay, spectate from, eat, etc. Best places to stay first and foremost, the eatin' and watchin' will take care of itself I suppose. But all "heads ups" would be appreciated. Hit me off list if you wish. TIA. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project (For Sale) From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 16 21:06:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9H16rP09784 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:06:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA19683 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA25306 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [209.67.207.13]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA30998 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (max1h-110.his.com [216.32.85.110]) by mail.his.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA05736 for ; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.20011016210743.014ae5cc@his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:07:46 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Team Charm @ Summit Point 10/13-14/01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Read all about it at; http://www.his.com/~harris/news.htm Enjoy! Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 17 00:01:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe144.pav0.hotmail.com [64.4.33.137]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9H41oP12300 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 00:01:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:49:55 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [63.20.245.173] From: "Patrick Caulfield" To: "Bruhl, George LT" , "DCCycles" Subject: Re: Trouble shooting Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:56:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN Explorer 6.10.0016.1624 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1569E.33E8C980" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2001 03:49:55.0266 (UTC) FILETIME=[C89E0A20:01C156BE] ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1569E.33E8C980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the tips. Spark was good, fuel was good (I could smell it), h= ose connected, electrics checked out...What ended up working was I pulled= the airbox off, drained all the fuel in the carbs via the carb float dra= in, then used compressed air to blow out extra fuel. Looked like some co= ndensation in there too. After that I started up with fuel off, then swi= tched to on, full choke, and she woke right up. I think I must have just= flooded the hell out of the engine. At RPMs over 11k the bike would kin= d of gasp, I guess there's still a little gunk left in, but it got better= after a few miles...but at least enough to get it to the garage for wint= er storage. Thanks again! =20 =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bruhl, George LT Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:50 AM To: 'Patrick_Caulfield@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: Trouble shooting =20 * Fuel pump? Pumping fuel? fuel pump or fuel pump reset button? Clogged Fuel Filter? Tainted fuel? Fuel tank corrosion? Fuel take inlin= e mesh clogged? Carbs or EFI? If carbs, check the bowls, unscrew the jets clean them in solvent and replace. Might as well put some new carb bowl gaskets on while you're at it. * Got fuel, got spark. Got batt. Hmmmm. Are all your vacuum hoses hooked back up? Are your hoses leaking? * Timing? Timing belt/chain? Timing belt cutoff switch (if you have one) I can't wait to see this thread develop. my 2cents. gb ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1569E.33E8C980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the= tips.  Spark was good, fuel was good (I could smell it), hose conne= cted, electrics checked out...What ended up working was I pulled the airb= ox off, drained all the fuel in the carbs via the carb float&nb= sp;drain, then used compressed air to blow out extra fuel.  Loo= ked like some condensation in there too.  After that I started&= nbsp;up with fuel off, then switched to on, full choke, and she= woke right up.  I think I must have just flooded the hell out of th= e engine.  At RPMs over 11k the bike would kind of gasp, I guess the= re's still a little gunk left in, but it got better after a few mile= s...but at least enough to get it to the garage for winter storage. = Thanks again! 
 
----- Origin= al Message -----
From: Bruhl, George LT
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 7:50 AM
To: 'Patrick_Caulfield@XXXXXX'; 'dc-cycle= s@XXXXXX'
Subject: Tr= ouble shooting
 
* Fuel pump?  Pumping fuel?&nb= sp; fuel pump or fuel pump reset button?
Clogged Fuel Filter?  Ta= inted fuel? Fuel tank corrosion?  Fuel take inline
mesh clogged? = Carbs or EFI?  If carbs, check the bowls, unscrew the jets
clean = them in solvent and replace.  Might as well put some new carb bowlgaskets on while you're at it.
* Got fuel, got spark.  Got batt= .  Hmmmm.  Are all your vacuum hoses
hooked back up?  A= re your hoses leaking?
* Timing?  Timing belt/chain?  Timing= belt cutoff switch (if you have
one)

     = I can't wait to see this thread develop.

my 2cents.
gb

<= /BLOCKQUOTE> ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C1569E.33E8C980-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 17 06:01:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-oe42.hotmail.com [216.32.180.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9HA1lP18126 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 06:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 02:50:10 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [63.21.243.246] From: "Ken" To: "Scratch" , "dc-cycles" References: <20011016140943.18910.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Laptops Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 05:49:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Oct 2001 09:50:10.0161 (UTC) FILETIME=[1C194610:01C156F1] Yea, I have soft saddlebags on both bikes, and neither of my Compaq Notebooks, would fit in either one of them. It seems like the back pack/courier style bag is still the way to go. Or its just an excuse to buy one of those new tiny Apple I-books ;). or alike. Kenneth R. Shephard HDKnight@XXXXXX Ride Safe! Inwood WV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scratch" > I was pretty excited about getting hard luggage on my > Triumph, anticipating riding without the cumbersome > backpack or non-secure tankbag. But when I tried to > put the laptop in my new hard bag, the dern laptop > case was too big. > > I then bought one of these: > http://www.ebags.com/products/index.cfm?fuseaction=image&ModelID=4488&bb_id= s26&Sku=4488&view=xlrg&sub_site_ID=26 > > Jansport Laptop Sleeve (40937) > > ...and put that in the saddlebag. It fits an IBM > thinkpad perfectly. > > HTH, > > Rich From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 17 09:12:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9HDCuP20911 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr3.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr3.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.47]) id QQlldc02298 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:12:47 GMT Received: from usashexims04.corp.us.uu.net by imr3.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: corpsmtpin.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.84.15]) id QQlldc12375 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 13:10:33 GMT Received: by corpsmtpin.corp.us.uu.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:03:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Wood, Sally" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Scott Gowland Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:03:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Scott Gowland was a great guy. Always upbeat, happy and an excellent rider. He clearly loved what he was doing and, like most of the guys at the track, would do anything to help out a fellow racer, regardless of whether or not that fellow racer was his competitor. Scott will be dearly missed. From: laura granato To: Brian Roach , matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: my Summit experience Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:36:04 -0400 > The rider killed at Summit Point this weekend was Scott Gowland. > > Scott was team owner and captain of the SpeedWerks "B" team in the WERA > National Endurance series, and a friend. If you've ever looked at the > racing photos on the www.dccycles.com web site, that's Scott's team Laura > and I were part of last year in the VIR endurance race. In the team > photographs he's the guy in the blue polo shirt and white shorts. > > He will be missed. > > Godspeed Scott. > I have to add to Brian's comments, he will be missed. Scott was a friendly guy who really enjoyed racing, and died doing something he loved to do. He was a good racer and a friend to all of us. My heart especially goes out to his fiance, (as well as his family and friends) as I couldn't imagine going through that. Godspeed, Scott. I hope you're riding some beautiful track in heaven!!!! Laura Sally Wood Network & Facilities Legal Team WorldCom, Inc. Phone: 703-886-4075 VNET: 806-4075 Fax: 703-886-4399 From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 17 09:20:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9HDKSP21074 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-112-124.s124.tnt8.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.112.124] helo=palladio1) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15tqcT-00071w-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:20:27 -0400 Message-ID: <006c01c1570e$c6d9b680$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles" References: <20011016140943.18910.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Laptops Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 09:22:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I have a "Musette Bag" from REI that has a padded internal pocket designed for a laptops. It fits nicely in my Givi E460 topbox. It carries all my essentials for the office that I ferry home every night. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken > Yea, I have soft saddlebags on both bikes, and neither of my Compaq > Notebooks, would fit in either one of them. It seems like the back > pack/courier style bag is still the way to go. Or its just an excuse to buy > one of those new tiny Apple I-books ;). or alike. > Kenneth R. Shephard > HDKnight@XXXXXX > Ride Safe! > Inwood WV > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scratch" > > I was pretty excited about getting hard luggage on my > > Triumph, anticipating riding without the cumbersome > > backpack or non-secure tankbag. But when I tried to > > put the laptop in my new hard bag, the dern laptop > > case was too big. > > > > I then bought one of these: > > > http://www.ebags.com/products/index.cfm?fuseaction=image&ModelID=4488&bb_id= > s26&Sku=4488&view=xlrg&sub_site_ID=26 > > > > Jansport Laptop Sleeve (40937) > > > > ...and put that in the saddlebag. It fits an IBM > > thinkpad perfectly. > > > > HTH, > > > > Rich From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 17 11:11:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11001.mail.yahoo.com (web11001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.51]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9HFBVP22653 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 11:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011017151130.63956.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.160.3.131] by web11001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:11:30 PDT Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 08:11:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: OT - Soon to be unemployed To: cycles2 , DC-Cycles Cc: Kim Sluss MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I found out today that I will soon be unemployed (unless I do something about it quick). So I am looking for a job. I have a Bachelors in Radio/Television and many years of experience in all areas of video production. I also have most of a Masters in Workforce Education and Development and several years of experience in instructional design, web based training, computer based training, classroom training, web development and design, graphic arts, etc. If anyone is looking or know of anyone looking for such a person have them contact me off list for a resume. Many Thanks Thomas (Trey) Herb III __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 17 12:51:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9HGpLP24323 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4GV0V1KX>; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:51:17 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E18F@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: FW: texmoto.com Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 12:51:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Worth cross-posting. Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 Annandale, VA Nice tame story on stereotypes of women in motorcycling. Sweet and too the point without getting too annoyed. http://www.texmoto.com/ViewArticle.asp?URL=712 From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 17 19:07:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14603.mail.yahoo.com (web14603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9HN7rP21417 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 19:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011017230752.65568.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.40.80] by web14603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:07:52 PDT Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 16:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Congrats.... To: dc-cycles In-Reply-To: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E18F@NCEAEXCHANGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ....to listers leon begeman (2nd) and todd peer (5th) for their podium finishes at this year's feast in the east (vii, i believe)!!! what makes these results more impressive is that leon did this on his trusty little 250 and todd rode his ill-suited-for-rallies vtr well done, freaks ;) -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 17 21:58:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9608.mail.yahoo.com (web9608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.187]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9I1w9P23975 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011018015808.43799.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [134.173.180.10] by web9608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:58:08 PDT Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:58:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Reinhardt Subject: AGV vs. Fieldsheer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm in need for relatively inexpensive leather pants. I can get either AGV sport rider leather pants or Fieldsheer Sport RLX leather pants for about the same price ($160-200). Preferences? Quality differences? Thanks, Adam Reinhardt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 00:29:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9I4T5P26190 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-50-40.s40.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.50.40]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15u4no-0002Ny-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:29:04 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: pads Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 00:30:51 -0700 Message-ID: <481tststdqk6daqgclp5lobkvb25q8j1cr@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9I4TAP26191 I think dirtbike knee/shin pads seem pretty effective. I've seen them at the dirtshop and local dealerships for around 20 bucks. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 08:32:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11103.mail.yahoo.com (web11103.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.150]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9ICWfP03896 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:32:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011018123239.75410.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11103.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 05:32:39 PDT Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 05:32:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: AGV vs. Fieldsheer To: Adam Reinhardt , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011018015808.43799.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii AGV Sport Rider: http://www.motorcyclegearreview.com/reviews.php?prodID=508 Fieldsheer Sport II: (Not RLX, but relevant) http://www.motorcyclegearreview.com/reviews.php?prodID=512 It doesn't sound to me from the Fieldsheer review that they would be a good choice. Keep in mind that the review was for a different model of pants, but the information about the warranty return was troubling. Chris Weaver --- Adam Reinhardt wrote: > I'm in need for relatively inexpensive leather > pants. I can get either AGV sport rider leather > pants > or Fieldsheer Sport RLX leather pants for about the > same price ($160-200). Preferences? Quality > differences? > > > Thanks, > > Adam Reinhardt > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 09:16:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay3.softcomca.com ([168.144.1.70]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9IDG3P04620 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w031 ([168.144.108.31]) by relay3.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:15:54 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: AGV vs. Fieldsheer Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 09:15:53 -0400 To: "ajreinhardt@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2001 13:15:54.0495 (UTC) FILETIME=[044EE8F0:01C157D7] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9IDG4P04621 Adam, Can't comment on the specific models, but here's what I can tell you about my personal experiences with both AGV and Fieldsheer. I used to have an AGV Rage 2-piece suit. And I used to have a pair of Fieldsheer pants (don't remember which model, but they were "sporty" because they had full padding and velcro for knee pucks). I survived a lowside (at maybe 50-60 mph) on the track (VIR) in my AGV suit with only some minor scuffing on the pants. I was wearing my Fieldsheer pants with the AGV jacket when I had my "deerhunter" accident early this spring. I totalled both the jacket and the pants, but they did their job and protected me from injury (or worse). FWIW, I currently have a Fieldsheer Splinter 1-piece racing suit. For about the same price, I think the quality of my Fieldsheer suit is better than my AGV suit. But I certainly wasn't unhappy with my AGV stuff either. Chuck Original Message: ----------------- From: Adam Reinhardt ajreinhardt@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 18:58:08 -0700 (PDT) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: AGV vs. Fieldsheer I'm in need for relatively inexpensive leather pants. I can get either AGV sport rider leather pants or Fieldsheer Sport RLX leather pants for about the same price ($160-200). Preferences? Quality differences? Thanks, Adam Reinhardt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 10:50:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14007.mail.yahoo.com (web14007.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.123]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9IEo5P06199 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011018145000.52951.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.229.31.25] by web14007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 07:50:00 PDT Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 07:50:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Congrats.... To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles In-Reply-To: <20011017230752.65568.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This was only an 11 hour rally. My route was less than 550 miles. The only difference between this rally and the one MOFO ride I was on is that the corners were slower and the stops were faster. You really ought to try a 12 hour rally sometime Tom. Leon. PS. If you don't believe me, ask Craig about this kind of riding. --- Tom Gimer wrote: > ....to listers leon begeman (2nd) and todd peer > (5th) for > their podium finishes at this year's feast in the > east > (vii, i believe)!!! > > what makes these results more impressive is that > leon did > this on his trusty little 250 and todd rode his > ill-suited-for-rallies vtr > > well done, freaks ;) > > > -- > tg > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 10:58:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.5]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9IEwTP06296 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp.ddlomni.com from localhost (router,SLMail V5.0); Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:01:31 -0400 for Received: from jstrang [204.245.128.170] by smtp.ddlomni.com [204.245.128.5] (SLmail 5.0.0.4342) with SMTP id C7DA6046C3BE11D58E22006008C770E5 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:01:31 -0400 From: "Jon Strang" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: Congrats.... Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:57:00 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20011018145000.52951.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-SLUIDL: C6BB1966-C3BE11D5-8E220060-08C770E5 Leon must hate Tom. He wants him to spend 12 hours on a Ducati. In a row. --jon 01 'zuki Bandit 1200 (Black and Nekkid) > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [mailto:mriderleon@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:50 AM > To: Tom Gimer; dc-cycles > Subject: Re: Congrats.... > > > This was only an 11 hour rally. My route was less > than 550 miles. The only difference between this > rally and the one MOFO ride I was on is that the > corners were slower and the stops were faster. You > really ought to try a 12 hour rally sometime Tom. > > Leon. > > PS. If you don't believe me, ask Craig about this > kind of riding. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 11:51:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9IFp2P07122 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:51:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-50-40.s40.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.50.40]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15uFRl-0007jQ-00; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:51:01 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Chris Weaver Cc: Adam Reinhardt , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: AGV vs. Fieldsheer Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:52:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <20011018015808.43799.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> <20011018123239.75410.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20011018123239.75410.qmail@web11103.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9IFpHP07123 I've fell in an agv jacket and in a fieldsheer jacket... two totally different incidents... however I came out better in the fieldsheer.. it seems more cushoiney too, while the agv seems more stiff and hard.. Try them both on at colemans then buy them elsewhere! problem solved! Danny I prefer fieldshier From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 11:53:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9IFrDP07132 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-50-40.s40.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.50.40]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15uFTt-0000R9-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:53:13 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: focus group Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:55:04 -0700 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9IFrEP07133 anyone have directions to the focus group? plus i know of a lady sport bike riding friend who would like to come, I think she's is going to call them a second time. Danny From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 17:10:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9ILAqP12207 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA21655 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:06:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:05:56 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: bike site (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nice multimedia site. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Heres a great bike site - a bit different - and interesting http://www.guggenheim.com/lowb/visarts/exhibitions/motorcycle/index.html From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 17:26:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9ILQUP12483 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2001 21:26:28 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "hcaldwell" , Subject: RE: bike site (fwd) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:25:45 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Very nice site. I've been to the original exhibit in NYC and have the book. Thanks for pointing this out. Niv -----Original Message----- From: hcaldwell [mailto:hcaldwell@XXXXXX] Sent: Thu, October 18, 2001 5:06 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: bike site (fwd) Nice multimedia site. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Heres a great bike site - a bit different - and interesting http://www.guggenheim.com/lowb/visarts/exhibitions/motorcycle/index.html _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 17:31:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14606.mail.yahoo.com (web14606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9ILVgP12623 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011018213141.33254.qmail@web14606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.163.173] by web14606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:31:41 PDT Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:31:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Congrats.... To: Leon Begeman , dc-cycles In-Reply-To: <20011018145000.52951.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Leon Begeman wrote: > This was only an 11 hour rally. My route was less > than 550 miles. The only difference between this > rally and the one MOFO ride I was on is that the > corners were slower and the stops were faster. You > really ought to try a 12 hour rally sometime Tom. > > Leon. > > PS. If you don't believe me, ask Craig about this > kind of riding. leon: i'm a horrible trip planner; i don't own a gps; and on long trips i leave the mapping to others.... what's more, i'm quite competitive by nature, would certainly NOT be winning, and hence would be absolutely miserable. throw in some inclimate weather and i'm a whining, sniveling, waste! spending 11+ hours on the duc (or any sportbike for that matter) is not the problem.... rather, as you can see i'm just not a good candidate for this type of thing. however, the odds are good that todd or craig will eventually convince me to participate in one. we'll all have a good laugh when that happens! again, congrats on your finish > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > ....to listers leon begeman (2nd) and todd peer > > (5th) for > > their podium finishes at this year's feast in the > > east (vii, i believe)!!! > > > > what makes these results more impressive is that > > leon did > > this on his trusty little 250 and todd rode his > > ill-suited-for-rallies vtr > > > > well done, freaks ;) -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 17:47:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.143]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9ILlQP12935 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:47:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vaio ([24.6.106.133]) by femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011018214714.MTOX22743.femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vaio> for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 14:47:14 -0700 Message-ID: <005b01c1581e$e97e0d60$6401a8c0@Home> From: "James Reazor" To: References: Subject: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 17:50:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Read it and weep. http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 22:05:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9J25WP17166 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ix.netcom.com (dialup-63.215.156.15.Dial1.Washington1.Level3.net [63.215.156.15]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA25573; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3BCF8A8D.6C246FBB@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:06:05 -0400 From: Chuck Pena Reply-To: the_penas@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Reazor CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch References: <005b01c1581e$e97e0d60$6401a8c0@Home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for everything except NASCAR (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) Once again, the American consumer will be screwed out of being able to watch anything that isn't an American sport. No more WSB, GP, and F1 racing. And it sounds like there probably won't be much AMA racing either since the eventual plan is for it to be a 24-hour NASCAR channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but I'll bet all the "good stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess that's what my VCR and my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks for making my day, James! Chuck James Reazor wrote: > > Read it and weep. > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 18 22:42:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay3.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9J2glP17741 for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:42:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d478406837 ([216.174.23.169]) by smtprelay3.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GLFM6W01.PEW for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:42:32 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" Cc: Subject: RE: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:42:01 -0400 Message-ID: <005f01c15847$a215e230$1606030a@d478406837> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3BCF8A8D.6C246FBB@ix.netcom.com> I just called DirecTV to make sure there won't be a fee for disconnecting me before a year is up. No problem. Pisses me off too. I purchased DTV for one reason, SpeedVision and MC races. I still have Cable TV in the rest of the house. The NASCAR crap is already taking over. So long DTV! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Pena [mailto:cvkgpena@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:06 PM To: James Reazor Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for everything except NASCAR (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) Once again, the American consumer will be screwed out of being able to watch anything that isn't an American sport. No more WSB, GP, and F1 racing. And it sounds like there probably won't be much AMA racing either since the eventual plan is for it to be a 24-hour NASCAR channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but I'll bet all the "good stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess that's what my VCR and my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks for making my day, James! Chuck James Reazor wrote: > > Read it and weep. > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 00:17:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10108.mail.yahoo.com (web10108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.58]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9J4HtP19169 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011019041753.22818.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.211.182.70] by web10108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:17:53 PDT Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 21:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian McCoy Subject: Anyone seen... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Squeekers? I miss her. :) heh. Brian McCoy - Former DCCer, MMI grad (what a waste), current dot com worker in Atlanta (my roads are better than your roads.. so neyaahh :P ) Oh, I'm not subbed - if you want me to see your replies, include my email.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 00:50:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9J4otP19679 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 04:50:53 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "Brian Roach" , Subject: RE: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 00:50:07 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3BCF8A8D.6C246FBB@ix.netcom.com> The reason I chose DTV over Comcast is the same - for Speedvision. I sure hope that its not ALL lost. Now where was that web letter we all signed and forwarded to FOX when the news of the purchase first surfaced? Maybe another one is due. Might not help, but it sounds like it can't get much worse. Niv -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Pena [mailto:cvkgpena@XXXXXX] Sent: Thu, October 18, 2001 10:06 PM To: James Reazor Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for everything except NASCAR (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) Once again, the American consumer will be screwed out of being able to watch anything that isn't an American sport. No more WSB, GP, and F1 racing. And it sounds like there probably won't be much AMA racing either since the eventual plan is for it to be a 24-hour NASCAR channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but I'll bet all the "good stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess that's what my VCR and my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks for making my day, James! Chuck James Reazor wrote: > > Read it and weep. > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 01:44:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9J5i3P20389 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:44:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vaio ([24.6.106.133]) by femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011019054357.UKNX13109.femail47.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vaio> for ; Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:43:57 -0700 Message-ID: <001301c15861$815cd020$6401a8c0@Home> From: "James Reazor" To: References: <005b01c1581e$e97e0d60$6401a8c0@Home> <3BCF8A8D.6C246FBB@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 01:47:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 My sentiments exactly Chuck. On the up side... I'll get a lot more stuff done around the house with all the extra time that I won't be spending watching Speedvision. Screw Fox. -James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Pena" To: "James Reazor" Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch > Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for everything except NASCAR > (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) > Once again, the American consumer will be screwed out of being able to > watch anything that isn't an American sport. No more WSB, GP, and F1 > racing. And it sounds like there probably won't be much AMA racing > either since the eventual plan is for it to be a 24-hour NASCAR > channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but I'll bet all the "good > stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess that's what my VCR and > my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks for making my day, > James! > > Chuck > > James Reazor wrote: > > > > Read it and weep. > > > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html > > -- > "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." > -- Buckaroo Banzai > visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 08:25:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13807.mail.yahoo.com (web13807.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9JCPuP26640 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:25:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011019122555.47078.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13807.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 05:25:55 PDT Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 05:25:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch To: James Reazor , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <001301c15861$815cd020$6401a8c0@Home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am not sure I would say 'Screw Fox', but screw all the rednecks who have made the Nascar racing/soap opera circuit such big business. All those who pony up to the TV weekend after weekend to watch GMs and Fords run around in circles. This is why the world sometimes laugh at us, we are all form and no substance. Put a few handsome country boys behind the wheel and we will watch it, but put something that is real and requires a little bit of brains behind it, like F1, rally cars, or Moto racing, and most people turn it off. Lowest common denominator rules in the USA and Fox is just following their cash. I almost got DTV for the same reason. Mark --- James Reazor wrote: > My sentiments exactly Chuck. On the up side... I'll > get a lot more stuff > done around the house with all the extra time that I > won't be spending > watching Speedvision. Screw Fox. > > -James > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Pena" > To: "James Reazor" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:06 PM > Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch > > > > Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for > everything except NASCAR > > (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in > circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) > > Once again, the American consumer will be screwed > out of being able to > > watch anything that isn't an American sport. No > more WSB, GP, and F1 > > racing. And it sounds like there probably won't > be much AMA racing > > either since the eventual plan is for it to be a > 24-hour NASCAR > > channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but > I'll bet all the "good > > stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess > that's what my VCR and > > my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks > for making my day, > > James! > > > > Chuck > > > > James Reazor wrote: > > > > > > Read it and weep. > > > > > > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html > > > > -- > > "The only reason for time is so that everything > doesn't happen at once." > > -- Buckaroo Banzai > > visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas > ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 08:30:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JCUjP26792 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VIRGINIA.meyerweb.net ([24.168.215.73]) by mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:03:33 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011018230324.00ab0e40@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 23:04:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch In-Reply-To: <005b01c1581e$e97e0d60$6401a8c0@Home> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:50 PM 10/18/01 -0400, James Reazor wrote: >Read it and weep. > >http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html Send your complaints to: info@XXXXXX and advertising@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 09:27:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9JDRsP27670 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:27:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:26:07 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:25:45 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , , Cc: Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JDSDP27671 Gee Chuck, Where's you're American Spirit? :o) Those Terrorist Mfers are lucky they didn't bomb a NASCAR race or a WWF event. That would incur the wraith of Americas good ol boys. Load of them pickumup trucks with shotguns and a good supply of chewing tobacco and look out. Seriously now, I have been thinking about getting a DISH for a few years now just to get Speedvision, now I guess I will stick with my crappy cable. Nothing against NASCAR, but I just like the road-racing series better. George Cole >>> cvkgpena@XXXXXX 10/18/01 10:06PM >>> Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for everything except NASCAR (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 09:34:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rasmus.futurequest.net (IDENT:qmailr@XXXXXX [63.151.112.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9JDYAP27752 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:34:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 30148 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2001 13:34:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dcpiii1000) (64.3.32.57) by motorcyclegearreview.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 13:34:27 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01c158a2$b949eae0$39200340@blairdubilier.com> From: "Dave Cross" To: Subject: SPAM: Race bike 4 Sale Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 09:34:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Are you looking to get into racing or want a great track day bike . . .? I'm selling my 1990 FZR400 race bike for $1900. Details and photos can be found at http://www.davecross.com/fzr400 The motor is stock so it makes only 55bhp, but before the SV650s entered the class I did manage to sneak it into a 4th place finish at Summit Point in a field of 35 bikes once. A rider with real skill and who weighed less than my 220lbs probably could have done better. dave From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 10:37:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JEbSP28837 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:37:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-51-17.s271.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.51.17] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15uam6-0005jD-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:37:27 -0400 Message-ID: <003501c158aa$fbd046e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:33:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Perhaps not all is lost. Look on the bright side, when the next generation of digital cable comes out, with ten bazillion channels, perhaps there will be an all-MC racing channel. :) The bigger problem is probably the production costs of covering MC road-racing which are pretty high, given the number of camera positions I saw set up at VIR. Covering an oval track requires fewer camera crews, etc., and the ratings are much higher. Crappy Comcast, nee District Cable, still has not added Speedvision to its digital line-up. Speedvision seems to be following the money, which is in NASCAR. I have nothing against NASCAR or its fans, but I'm not going to pay money to have it come into my home on a 24/7 basis since I have zero interest. Doesn't NASCAR already get plenty of coverage elsewhere? Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: George Cole Gee Chuck, Where's you're American Spirit? :o) Those Terrorist Mfers are lucky they didn't bomb a NASCAR race or a WWF event. That would incur the wraith of Americas good ol boys. Load of them pickumup trucks with shotguns and a good supply of chewing tobacco and look out. Seriously now, I have been thinking about getting a DISH for a few years now just to get Speedvision, now I guess I will stick with my crappy cable. Nothing against NASCAR, but I just like the road-racing series better. George Cole From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 10:55:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JEt9P29116 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:55:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-185-015.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.185.15]) by gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA10649; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 07:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011019104736.00aadbb0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:55:21 -0400 To: Mark Kitchell , James Reazor , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch In-Reply-To: <20011019122555.47078.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> References: <001301c15861$815cd020$6401a8c0@Home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:25 AM 10/19/01, Mark Kitchell wrote: >I am not sure I would say 'Screw Fox', but screw all >the rednecks who have made the Nascar racing/soap >opera circuit such big business. All those who pony >up to the TV weekend after weekend to watch GMs and >Fords run around in circles. > >This is why the world sometimes laugh at us, we are >all form and no substance. Put a few handsome country >boys behind the wheel and we will watch it, but put >something that is real and requires a little bit of >brains behind it, like F1, rally cars, or Moto racing, >and most people turn it off. Lowest common >denominator rules in the USA and Fox is just following >their cash. > >I almost got DTV for the same reason. Geez, dead on the money, and I thought my friend and I were the only ones left who felt that way. Even the USGP is almost as boring as the Hungaroring (if only it was at Road America...sigh.) The only NASCAR races I can stand to watch are the road courses. Although when we had an out-of-region SCCA race at Charlotte a number of years ago, running the high banking was fun (especially seeing right rear tires burn entirely through the bodywork of some cars due to the downforce!) Only difference: I got DTV several years ago to watch Wimbledon, and haven't been able to give up on the picture quality and the music channels, especially when combined with Replay TV. It's addicting to watch things with no commercials at all. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 11:10:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.89]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JFAcP29365 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:10:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (smtp-relay02-qfe3 [10.13.10.225]) by smtp-out.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9JF6rI07798 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com ([10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLGKTI00.9RE for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:10:30 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-157.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.157]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLGKTI00.L2A; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:10:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:10:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Subject: Miata engine swallows BB's, doesn't like them. From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX, thomasajordan@XXXXXX Message-Id: <67491C67-C4A3-11D5-BC82-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JFAeP29366 http://www.miataforum.com/cgi- bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=013878 Look at the pictures. "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 11:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay2.softcomca.com (relay.softcomca.com [168.144.1.68] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JFHVP29508 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w037 ([168.144.108.37]) by relay2.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:17:34 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: RE: Speedvision Relaunch Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:17:29 -0400 To: "fj1100@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2001 15:17:35.0110 (UTC) FILETIME=[2E3A1A60:01C158B1] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JFHZP29509 Gary, I actually LIKE satellite TV, which is why this whole Speedvision thing is frustrating. I'm NOT going back to cable! In fact, just moved to a new house and am having the DishNetwork installed (I get 2 room capability and a digital recording receiver as part of the deal) on Monday. Speedvision is certainly one of the reasons I switched from cable to satellite, but not enough of a reason for me to switch back to cable. Just pisses me off though! Chuck Original Message: ----------------- From: Gary Foreman fj1100@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:42:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Speedvision Relaunch I just called DirecTV to make sure there won't be a fee for disconnecting me before a year is up. No problem. Pisses me off too. I purchased DTV for one reason, SpeedVision and MC races. I still have Cable TV in the rest of the house. The NASCAR crap is already taking over. So long DTV! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Pena [mailto:cvkgpena@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:06 PM To: James Reazor Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for everything except NASCAR (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) Once again, the American consumer will be screwed out of being able to watch anything that isn't an American sport. No more WSB, GP, and F1 racing. And it sounds like there probably won't be much AMA racing either since the eventual plan is for it to be a 24-hour NASCAR channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but I'll bet all the "good stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess that's what my VCR and my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks for making my day, James! Chuck James Reazor wrote: > > Read it and weep. > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 11:21:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JFLxP29606 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w077 ([168.144.108.77]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:22:03 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:21:40 -0400 To: "markkitchell@XXXXXX" , "jreazor@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2001 15:22:03.0472 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE2EE500:01C158B1] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JFM0P29607 It's not so much that I'm "anti-NASCAR", but that I'd like to watch moto stuff other than just NASCAR (which BTW gets shown a lot on network TV as it is). I have no problem with NASCAR being a big business and having a big audience. And no problem with all their fans (redneck or otherwise!) -- everyone likes what they like. I just have a problem with it squeezing out all the other stuff I enjoy watching so much. I guess that means I won't be able to watch the 24 heures du Le Mans either! I might have to look into international programming on the DishNetwork to see if I can pick up any Euro stations such as SkyTV. Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark Kitchell markkitchell@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 05:25:55 -0700 (PDT) To: JReazor@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch I am not sure I would say 'Screw Fox', but screw all the rednecks who have made the Nascar racing/soap opera circuit such big business. All those who pony up to the TV weekend after weekend to watch GMs and Fords run around in circles. This is why the world sometimes laugh at us, we are all form and no substance. Put a few handsome country boys behind the wheel and we will watch it, but put something that is real and requires a little bit of brains behind it, like F1, rally cars, or Moto racing, and most people turn it off. Lowest common denominator rules in the USA and Fox is just following their cash. I almost got DTV for the same reason. Mark --- James Reazor wrote: > My sentiments exactly Chuck. On the up side... I'll > get a lot more stuff > done around the house with all the extra time that I > won't be spending > watching Speedvision. Screw Fox. > > -James > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Pena" > To: "James Reazor" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:06 PM > Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch > > > > Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for > everything except NASCAR > > (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in > circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) > > Once again, the American consumer will be screwed > out of being able to > > watch anything that isn't an American sport. No > more WSB, GP, and F1 > > racing. And it sounds like there probably won't > be much AMA racing > > either since the eventual plan is for it to be a > 24-hour NASCAR > > channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but > I'll bet all the "good > > stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess > that's what my VCR and > > my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks > for making my day, > > James! > > > > Chuck > > > > James Reazor wrote: > > > > > > Read it and weep. > > > > > > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html > > > > -- > > "The only reason for time is so that everything > doesn't happen at once." > > -- Buckaroo Banzai > > visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas > ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 11:27:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay3.softcomca.com ([168.144.1.70]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JFRiP29701 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w044 ([168.144.108.44]) by relay3.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:27:47 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:27:43 -0400 To: "info@XXXXXX" CC: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2001 15:27:47.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B5338B0:01C158B2] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JFRkP29702 I read in a news article that Speedvision may become NASCARvision. While I know there are a lot of NASCAR fans out there, I hope the powers that be also understand that that's not the ONLY reason a lot of us watch Speedvision. I watch Speedvision because it's a MOTORSPORTS ENTHUSIASTS station. That means ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF MOTORSPORTS other than just NASCAR, to include (but not limited to): Formula 1, 24 Hours of Le Mans and other endurance races, World Superbike motorcycles, GP motorcycles, AMA motorcycles, etc. Please, please, please DON'T turn Speedvision into a 24-hour NASCAR station. And please don't relegate all the non-NASCAR programming to 2 or 3 in the morning. The networks already tend to show NASCAR racing almost exlcusively. As viewers/consumers we absolutely need Speedvision to give us programming choices that are not being made available by the networks. Sincerely, Chuck Pena Arlington, VA -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 11:32:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay3.softcomca.com ([168.144.1.70]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JFWFP29803 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w049 ([168.144.108.49]) by relay3.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:32:18 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:32:27 -0400 To: "pawilson@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2001 15:32:18.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[3CB5C420:01C158B3] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JFWGP29804 Paul, At least with stuff like F1, WSB, and MotoGP, most of the production costs are actually picked up by others. Speedvision simply pays for the rights to broadcast. This is not the case for the AMA races, however. I certainly understand the $$$ factor and the need to follow the money (after all, it's a capitalistic, free-market, profit-driven venture). But we already get lots of NASCAR via the networks and I just hate the idea of a 24-hour NASCAR station at the expense of not being able to see other motorsports. Chuck Original Message: ----------------- From: Paul Wilson pawilson@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:33:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Perhaps not all is lost. Look on the bright side, when the next generation of digital cable comes out, with ten bazillion channels, perhaps there will be an all-MC racing channel. :) The bigger problem is probably the production costs of covering MC road-racing which are pretty high, given the number of camera positions I saw set up at VIR. Covering an oval track requires fewer camera crews, etc., and the ratings are much higher. Crappy Comcast, nee District Cable, still has not added Speedvision to its digital line-up. Speedvision seems to be following the money, which is in NASCAR. I have nothing against NASCAR or its fans, but I'm not going to pay money to have it come into my home on a 24/7 basis since I have zero interest. Doesn't NASCAR already get plenty of coverage elsewhere? -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 11:36:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp013.mail.yahoo.com (smtp013.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.57]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9JFa4P29890 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 15:36:03 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: FW: Speedvision/NASCAR revisited Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:35:24 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Here's more on the subject from another list. LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner On Behalf Of Warchild Well now.... This is the first positive thing I've read that suggests that Speedvision will *not* become a NASCAR-only channel. Sure hope Dave Despain is right about this article: http://www.amasuperbike.com/010913b_de.htm Warchild STOC#0098 Keeper of the STOC webs http://www.ST-riders.com ______________________________________ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 11:45:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JFjeP00147 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w033 ([168.144.108.33]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:45:44 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: FW: Speedvision/NASCAR revisited Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:45:42 -0400 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2001 15:45:44.0745 (UTC) FILETIME=[1D53F190:01C158B5] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JFk1P00148 I sure hope the article is right and that enough execs see a bigger picture than just NASCAR. Also that the 50% that isn't NASCAR isn't all non-prime time. Original Message: ----------------- From: LindaT. ljtanner@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:35:24 -0400 To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: FW: Speedvision/NASCAR revisited Here's more on the subject from another list. LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner On Behalf Of Warchild Well now.... This is the first positive thing I've read that suggests that Speedvision will *not* become a NASCAR-only channel. Sure hope Dave Despain is right about this article: http://www.amasuperbike.com/010913b_de.htm Warchild STOC#0098 Keeper of the STOC webs http://www.ST-riders.com ______________________________________ _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 11:53:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JFrpP00250 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:53:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-45-46.s300.tnt3.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.45.46] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15uby1-00015S-00; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:53:50 -0400 Message-ID: <00d001c158b5$7a1361e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:47:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Chuck, I'm wondering, how much of an audience there is for AMA racing overseas? Zilch. Or in this country for that matter? Not much I would say, but whose fault is that? Could it be part of the problem is the ongoing soap opera that is the AMA racing program?? Just a thought. FOX was the kiss of death, although it's certainly within their rights to do whatever they want, but I won't be tuning it. I'm not much of a TV watcher anyway. If it weren't for HBO and CSPAN they're wouldn't even be a TV in our house. Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: RE: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Paul, At least with stuff like F1, WSB, and MotoGP, most of the production costs are actually picked up by others. Speedvision simply pays for the rights to broadcast. This is not the case for the AMA races, however. I certainly understand the $$$ factor and the need to follow the money (after all, it's a capitalistic, free-market, profit-driven venture). But we already get lots of NASCAR via the networks and I just hate the idea of a 24-hour NASCAR station at the expense of not being able to see other motorsports. Chuck Original Message: ----------------- From: Paul Wilson pawilson@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:33:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Perhaps not all is lost. Look on the bright side, when the next generation of digital cable comes out, with ten bazillion channels, perhaps there will be an all-MC racing channel. :) The bigger problem is probably the production costs of covering MC road-racing which are pretty high, given the number of camera positions I saw set up at VIR. Covering an oval track requires fewer camera crews, etc., and the ratings are much higher. Crappy Comcast, nee District Cable, still has not added Speedvision to its digital line-up. Speedvision seems to be following the money, which is in NASCAR. I have nothing against NASCAR or its fans, but I'm not going to pay money to have it come into my home on a 24/7 basis since I have zero interest. Doesn't NASCAR already get plenty of coverage elsewhere? -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 12:06:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f91.hotmail.com [216.32.181.91]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JG63P00487 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 08:54:44 -0700 Received: from 64.221.81.2 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:54:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.221.81.2] From: "Natasha Louis" To: pltrgyst@XXXXXX, markkitchell@XXXXXX, JReazor@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:54:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2001 15:54:44.0391 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EFB6370:01C158B6] Larry said: >The only NASCAR races I can stand to watch are the road >courses. The only reason these races are fun to watch is because those guys don't know how to make right turns and it just turns into one big crashfest. Natasha >From: Larry Larson >To: Mark Kitchell , James Reazor >, dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch >Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:55:21 -0400 > >At 08:25 AM 10/19/01, Mark Kitchell wrote: >>I am not sure I would say 'Screw Fox', but screw all >>the rednecks who have made the Nascar racing/soap >>opera circuit such big business. All those who pony >>up to the TV weekend after weekend to watch GMs and >>Fords run around in circles. >> >>This is why the world sometimes laugh at us, we are >>all form and no substance. Put a few handsome country >>boys behind the wheel and we will watch it, but put >>something that is real and requires a little bit of >>brains behind it, like F1, rally cars, or Moto racing, >>and most people turn it off. Lowest common >>denominator rules in the USA and Fox is just following >>their cash. >> >>I almost got DTV for the same reason. > >Geez, dead on the money, and I thought my friend and I >were the only ones left who felt that way. Even the USGP >is almost as boring as the Hungaroring (if only it was at >Road America...sigh.) > >The only NASCAR races I can stand to watch are the road >courses. Although when we had an out-of-region SCCA race >at Charlotte a number of years ago, running the high banking >was fun (especially seeing right rear tires burn entirely through >the bodywork of some cars due to the downforce!) > >Only difference: I got DTV several years ago to watch Wimbledon, >and haven't been able to give up on the picture quality and >the music channels, especially when combined with Replay >TV. It's addicting to watch things with no commercials at all. > >-- Larry > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 12:43:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JGhRP01051 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:43:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id u.94.1b9ad235 (15902); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web45.aolmail.aol.com (web45.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.6]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID95-1019124316; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:43:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:43:15 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: RE: FW: Speedvision/NASCAR revisited To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <94.1b9ad235.2901b224@aol.com> That article is over a month old. A lot can happen in a months time to make execs change their tune. Scooter In a message dated Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:49:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" writes: > I sure hope the article is right and that enough execs see a bigger picture than just NASCAR. Also that the 50% that isn't NASCAR isn't all non-prime time. > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: LindaT. ljtanner@XXXXXX > Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:35:24 -0400 > To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX > Subject: FW: Speedvision/NASCAR revisited > > > Here's more on the subject from another list. > > LindaT. > Custom TankBags > Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) > 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy > 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) > 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing > http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner > > > On Behalf Of Warchild > Well now.... > > This is the first positive thing I've read that suggests that Speedvision > will *not* become a NASCAR-only channel. > > Sure hope Dave Despain is right about this article: > > http://www.amasuperbike.com/010913b_de.htm > > > Warchild STOC#0098 > > Keeper of the STOC webs > http://www.ST-riders.com > ______________________________________ > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 12:58:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JGw8P01274 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:58:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.88.e033c8e (2613) for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:57:54 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <88.e033c8e.2901b591@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:57:53 EDT Subject: Re: FW: Speedvision/NASCAR revisited To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_88.e033c8e.2901b591_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 --part1_88.e033c8e.2901b591_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cvkgpena@XXXXXX writes: > Also that the 50% that isn't NASCAR isn't all non-prime time. > I also wish they would stop all of the "Automotive Product Showcase" infomercials! I really miss Planes of Fame... Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_88.e033c8e.2901b591_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cvkgpena@XXXXXX writes:


Also that the 50% that isn't NASCAR isn't all non-prime time.

I also wish they would stop all of the "Automotive Product Showcase" infomercials!
I really miss Planes of Fame...

Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R --part1_88.e033c8e.2901b591_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 13:05:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JH5eP01440 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:05:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:04:53 -0400 Message-Id: <200110191304.AA1042939952@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: Miata engine swallows BB's, doesn't like them. X-Mailer: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JH76P01441 !!! I can't figure out if the guy's question about "Am I SOL?" is rhetorical or if he really wants opinions. I bet he will pay more attention to keeping parts clean the next time he services a vehicle! Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Sean Jordan Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:10:16 -0400 >http://www.miataforum.com/cgi- >bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=013878 > >Look at the pictures. > > >"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the >skillful defiance of it." > >M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) > >Sean Jordan >Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing >'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) >'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) >WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 >http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 13:31:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f130.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JHV1P01866 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 10:19:37 -0700 Received: from 151.200.109.76 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:19:36 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.200.109.76] From: "Todd Peer" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Congrats.... Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 13:19:36 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2001 17:19:37.0243 (UTC) FILETIME=[3A8EEEB0:01C158C2] Actually, Tom has spent over 19 hours on a CBR900RR from Springfield, VA to Miami, FL. AND it was an average 26 degrees F. all the way to the Georgia border. =:0 Another placed finish in this years FiteVII was Andrew Culpeper on his EX500. He finished in the top 10 at #8. Go little bikes! Todd (Springfield, VA) For more information about what the hell we're talking about.... http://www.automated-design.com/feast/index.html ------------------------------------ From: "Jon Strang" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: Congrats.... Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:57:00 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-SLUIDL: C6BB1966-C3BE11D5-8E220060-08C770E5 Leon must hate Tom. He wants him to spend 12 hours on a Ducati. In a row. --jon 01 'zuki Bandit 1200 (Black and Nekkid) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 14:07:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JI7BP02533 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from M2W058 ([168.144.108.58]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:07:13 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Re: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:07:06 -0400 To: "pawilson@XXXXXX" CC: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Oct 2001 18:07:13.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[E0FDD6C0:01C158C8] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JI8uP02534 Motorcycle racing in general and the AMA in particular is a "niche" market here in the US. IMHO, I think there's a big parallel with bicycle racing. There's a huge market for international-level bicycle racing around the world (except in the US, of course!), just as there seems to be for motorcycle racing. But not much of a market (even domestically) for the domestic racing for both. I find it somewhat ironic that a lot of "foreign" countries seem to have no problem watching and enjoying what are primarily American sports, but not vice-versa. I think the market for watching AMA racing is the more "hard core" motorcycle racing enthusiasts/fans. If there's any overseas market, it's probably in Australia and only because the Aussies want to watch Mladin. Like you, I don't watch TV just for Speedvision. And it's not the only reason I decided to switch from cable to satellite (but certainly a factor). I just think it's too bad that NASCAR will be dominating the only channel dedicated to motor racing enthusiasts. Original Message: ----------------- From: Paul Wilson pawilson@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:47:59 -0400 To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Chuck, I'm wondering, how much of an audience there is for AMA racing overseas? Zilch. Or in this country for that matter? Not much I would say, but whose fault is that? Could it be part of the problem is the ongoing soap opera that is the AMA racing program?? Just a thought. FOX was the kiss of death, although it's certainly within their rights to do whatever they want, but I won't be tuning it. I'm not much of a TV watcher anyway. If it weren't for HBO and CSPAN they're wouldn't even be a TV in our house. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 14:19:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from angelfire.com (xyzzyz.whowhere.com [209.1.236.99]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9JIJbP02720 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:19:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Fri Oct 19 11:19:13 2001 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:19:13 -0400 From: "BR VMI-1996" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: vmi-1996@XXXXXX X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: Scott Gowland X-Sender-Ip: 64.157.187.219 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Man 'o Man. I went to college with Scott, but had been out of contact with him for about three years. We were roomates one summer since we both need a little 'extra' help. I guess he picked up racing during those three years. It is really sad to hear about this. It was bugging me the last couple weeks to go see him, but I just never got around to doing that. I guess that will eat at me for a long time. Godspeed my friend. -Matt '01 Suzuki Bandit '91/93 Suzuki DR 350 (Hybrid) Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 14:20:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13406.mail.yahoo.com (web13406.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.64]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9JIKXP02790 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:20:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011019182023.51808.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.44.89.171] by web13406.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:20:23 PDT Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Beck Subject: Re: Anyone seen... To: Brian McCoy , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011019041753.22818.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii LOL!!! I wouldn't be surprised to find out she impaled herself on her helmet with horns. --- Brian McCoy wrote: > Squeekers? I miss her. :) > > heh. > > Brian McCoy - Former DCCer, MMI grad (what a waste), > current dot com worker in Atlanta (my roads are > better > than your roads.. so neyaahh :P ) > > Oh, I'm not subbed - if you want me to see your > replies, include my email.... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 15:06:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JJ6pP03526 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:06:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA24003 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:02:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:02:22 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Power boost?? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII New engine design. Hope it works. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/detail?sectionID=50677&documentID=96070& pageNum=1 From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 15:34:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JJY2P03966 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-112-171.s171.tnt8.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.112.171] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15ufOw-0006mG-00; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:33:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c158d5$4848e660$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: Re: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:15:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Maybe, instead of punishing Mladin, the AMA should encourage more controversial comments and brickbats. It'd get people to tune in. :) Seriously though, things can turn around, but it takes a while. Soccer has gained in popularity, which has slowly trickled down to the pro level. When I was in high school (more years ago than I care to admit) we didn't even have a soccer club. Now the HS has a full-blown varsity and junior varsity program and tryouts are very competitive. It is odd that of all the people you see piloting bicycles on the average Sunday, only some infinitesimally small portion of them would watch a bicycle race on TV, much less attend an event. Even the Lemonds and Armstrongs of American cycling can't seem to lift the popularity of the sport to even a fraction of what you find in Europe. It's odd because TV has the power to show you the whole race and is much more satisfying than the spectator experience, IMHO, unless you're a hard-core groupie and into the whole scene. Same goes for MC racing. For whatever reason, amateur and recreational participation in a sport doesn't automatically translate into support for the sport at the pro level. It does for me, though. I have some clue how much ability it takes to pilot a motorcycle around a track at high speed (or a bicycle up a mountain pass), therefore, I enjoy watching people who know how to do it *really* well at a highly competitive level. Others don't seem to have the same kind of interest. As for NASCAR's popularity, I blame it on the "Dukes of Hazzard." Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: Motorcycle racing in general and the AMA in particular is a "niche" market here in the US. IMHO, I think there's a big parallel with bicycle racing. There's a huge market for international-level bicycle racing around the world (except in the US, of course!), just as there seems to be for motorcycle racing. But not much of a market (even domestically) for the domestic racing for both. I find it somewhat ironic that a lot of "foreign" countries seem to have no problem watching and enjoying what are primarily American sports, but not vice-versa. I think the market for watching AMA racing is the more "hard core" motorcycle racing enthusiasts/fans. If there's any overseas market, it's probably in Australia and only because the Aussies want to watch Mladin. Like you, I don't watch TV just for Speedvision. And it's not the only reason I decided to switch from cable to satellite (but certainly a factor). I just think it's too bad that NASCAR will be dominating the only channel dedicated to motor racing enthusiasts. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 15:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JJxOP04410 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-185-015.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.185.15]) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00976; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 12:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011019155826.00ab9220@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:59:35 -0400 To: "Natasha Louis" , markkitchell@XXXXXX, JReazor@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:54 AM 10/19/01, Natasha Louis wrote: >Larry said: >The only NASCAR races I can stand to watch are the road >>courses. > >The only reason these races are fun to watch is because those guys don't >know how to make right turns and it just turns into one big crashfest. Who watches the backmarkers? The guys at the front on the road courses -- e.g., Jeff Gordon, Rusty Wallace, etc. definitely are *drivers*. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 16:15:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JKF6P04770 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:15:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-251.patriot.net [209.249.180.251]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9JKF4j22227 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:15:04 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD0884C.A715E662@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:08:44 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: rusty tank... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, what is the best interior tank coating to prevent rust. And any tricks to removing rust from a tank built around 1966? I have phospheric acid, the usual rust remover for sheet metal body panels, and I'm going to give that a go. "Kreem" is one substance I recall for coating the tank after cleaning but I've seen that go south (fugup) rather quickly. Anyone tried converter? Leaves bare steel black and supposedly rust free. Bill From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 16:24:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9JKOuP04905 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:23:09 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:23:05 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: rusty tank... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9JKQHP04906 Bill, Take a look at this product called POR15, they sell a motorcycle kit. I just did this on a tank and the process went well, I hope to try the tank out this weekend and see how the sealer holds up. The POR15 stuff is a heavy silver paint like coating, it did coat the tank well http://www.easycarts.net/ecarts/PermanentRestorationProducts/POR15.html George Cole >>> "William J. Huson" 10/19/01 04:08PM >>> Okay, what is the best interior tank coating to prevent rust. And any tricks to removing rust from a tank built around 1966? I have phospheric acid, the usual rust remover for sheet metal body panels, and I'm going to give that a go. "Kreem" is one substance I recall for coating the tank after cleaning but I've seen that go south (fugup) rather quickly. Anyone tried converter? Leaves bare steel black and supposedly rust free. Bill From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 16:36:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9JKa9P05146 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:36:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (65.14.174.34) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2001 20:36:06 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: , , , Subject: RE: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 16:35:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: See if you can get Eurosport and let us know ! Niv -----Original Message----- From: cvkgpena@XXXXXX [mailto:cvkgpena@XXXXXX] Sent: Fri, October 19, 2001 11:22 AM To: markkitchell@XXXXXX; jreazor@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Re: Speedvision Relaunch It's not so much that I'm "anti-NASCAR", but that I'd like to watch moto stuff other than just NASCAR (which BTW gets shown a lot on network TV as it is). I have no problem with NASCAR being a big business and having a big audience. And no problem with all their fans (redneck or otherwise!) -- everyone likes what they like. I just have a problem with it squeezing out all the other stuff I enjoy watching so much. I guess that means I won't be able to watch the 24 heures du Le Mans either! I might have to look into international programming on the DishNetwork to see if I can pick up any Euro stations such as SkyTV. Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark Kitchell markkitchell@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 05:25:55 -0700 (PDT) To: JReazor@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch I am not sure I would say 'Screw Fox', but screw all the rednecks who have made the Nascar racing/soap opera circuit such big business. All those who pony up to the TV weekend after weekend to watch GMs and Fords run around in circles. This is why the world sometimes laugh at us, we are all form and no substance. Put a few handsome country boys behind the wheel and we will watch it, but put something that is real and requires a little bit of brains behind it, like F1, rally cars, or Moto racing, and most people turn it off. Lowest common denominator rules in the USA and Fox is just following their cash. I almost got DTV for the same reason. Mark --- James Reazor wrote: > My sentiments exactly Chuck. On the up side... I'll > get a lot more stuff > done around the house with all the extra time that I > won't be spending > watching Speedvision. Screw Fox. > > -James > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck Pena" > To: "James Reazor" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:06 PM > Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch > > > > Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for > everything except NASCAR > > (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in > circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) > > Once again, the American consumer will be screwed > out of being able to > > watch anything that isn't an American sport. No > more WSB, GP, and F1 > > racing. And it sounds like there probably won't > be much AMA racing > > either since the eventual plan is for it to be a > 24-hour NASCAR > > channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but > I'll bet all the "good > > stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess > that's what my VCR and > > my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks > for making my day, > > James! > > > > Chuck > > > > James Reazor wrote: > > > > > > Read it and weep. > > > > > > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html > > > > -- > > "The only reason for time is so that everything > doesn't happen at once." > > -- Buckaroo Banzai > > visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas > ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 17:35:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20102.mail.yahoo.com (web20102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9JLZDP06116 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 17:35:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011019213512.38887.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:35:12 PDT Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 14:35:12 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Ultimate Tire test To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I really don't know if this site will stay up considering copyright issues but in the meantime if you want to read all about what the Brits think of tires: www.tl1000.com/pb_tires/sport_rider_sep_2001.htm The guy who runs tl1000.com is a lister I think. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 18:27:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JMRWP07017 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:27:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.com ([24.37.104.4]) by femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011019222725.TURJ2497.femail46.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX> for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:27:25 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD0A8C2.7500AEE3@home.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:27:14 -0400 From: "Steven C. Di Pietro" Organization: Suzuki Owners Club USA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch References: <005b01c1581e$e97e0d60$6401a8c0@Home> <3BCF8A8D.6C246FBB@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chuck Pena wrote: > Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for everything except NASCAR > (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) > Once again, the American consumer will be screwed out of being able to > watch anything that isn't an American sport. No more WSB, GP, and F1 > racing. And it sounds like there probably won't be much AMA racing > either since the eventual plan is for it to be a 24-hour NASCAR > channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but I'll bet all the "good > stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess that's what my VCR and > my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks for making my day, > James! > > Chuck > Well, I just hope, that if the go to 24 hour NASCAR, they come up another network for the rest of us. Steven C. Di Pietro Assistant National Director National Marketing Coordinator Suzuki Owners Club USA 142 Circle Road Pasadena Md. 21122-6036 http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 18:37:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9JMbMP07185 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [209.244.209.154] (dialup-209.244.209.154.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net [209.244.209.154]) by snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f9JMbFg26790 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 15:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 18:43:46 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: Thomas Jordan Subject: All looking for bike storage/work space. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I have about 700 sq.ft. of space available in a secure garage I'm renting in Sterling, VA. It is in a pretty small, quiet neighborhood, and someone is almost always home. I have tools (and an air compressor etc.) on site. If anyone would like details on storing a bike over the winter, or a space to work on a bike out of the rain, help working on a bike, etc. reply off list. Thomas Jordan -- From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 20:04:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9K04eP08663 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VIRGINIA.meyerweb.net ([24.168.215.73]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:04:38 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011019200341.00abca20@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:04:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Speedvision Petition In-Reply-To: <005f01c15847$a215e230$1606030a@d478406837> References: <3BCF8A8D.6C246FBB@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Please go to the following site and sign this petition. That is if you don't want Speedvision taken over by NASCAR. When you sign the petition make an appropriate comment. http://www.petitiononline.com/svsn/petition.html From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 23:44:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9K3i6P12089 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d478406837 ([216.174.23.236]) by smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GLHJPC02.KBO for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:44:00 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: Ultimate Tire test Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:43:25 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c15919$60fa10a0$1606030a@d478406837> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20011019213512.38887.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal So sue me. But enjoy. Gary Foreman, TL Owners Club mailto:gary@XXXXXX TL Owners Club: http://www.tl1000.com TL Owners Board: http://server5.ezboard.com/btlownersboard TL Message Board: http://www.voy.com/14718/ Yahoo TL Pit: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tl1000pit -----Original Message----- From: matthew patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:35 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ultimate Tire test I really don't know if this site will stay up considering copyright issues but in the meantime if you want to read all about what the Brits think of tires: www.tl1000.com/pb_tires/sport_rider_sep_2001.htm The guy who runs tl1000.com is a lister I think. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 19 23:46:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9K3kdP12175 for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d478406837 ([216.174.23.236]) by smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GLHJTM03.FBE for ; Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:46:34 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: RE: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:45:59 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01c15919$bc5228c0$1606030a@d478406837> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal I have to keep cable. I have 6 TV's in my house! -----Original Message----- From: cvkgpena@XXXXXX [mailto:cvkgpena@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:17 AM To: fj1100@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: Speedvision Relaunch Gary, I actually LIKE satellite TV, which is why this whole Speedvision thing is frustrating. I'm NOT going back to cable! In fact, just moved to a new house and am having the DishNetwork installed (I get 2 room capability and a digital recording receiver as part of the deal) on Monday. Speedvision is certainly one of the reasons I switched from cable to satellite, but not enough of a reason for me to switch back to cable. Just pisses me off though! Chuck Original Message: ----------------- From: Gary Foreman fj1100@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:42:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Speedvision Relaunch I just called DirecTV to make sure there won't be a fee for disconnecting me before a year is up. No problem. Pisses me off too. 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To: Steve Beck , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011019182023.51808.qmail@web13406.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Steve Beck wrote: > LOL!!! > > I wouldn't be surprised to find out she impaled > herself on her helmet with horns. While attempting to shoot a BDC.... or her hubby. :P lol __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 20 08:23:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9KCNAP22222 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:23:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.e.1452e3b2 (16930) for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:23:01 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:23:00 EDT Subject: Miata engine swallows BB's, doesn't like them. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Subj: Re: Miata engine swallows BB's, doesn't like them. Date: 10/20/2001 8:03:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: PenguinBiker To: cnorloff@XXXXXX I worked on an old VFR once that some fool had "fixed" himself, the thing _literally_ had grass inside of it. The guy was working on it under a shade tree, (Yea, a "shade tree" mechanic.) and he had to stop to mow the lawn. True story. 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From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 21 10:09:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f298.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.173]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9LE9lP13879 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:09:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 06:58:12 -0700 Received: from 24.4.252.26 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 21 Oct 2001 13:58:12 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.252.26] From: "Jay Block" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 10/20/01 Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:58:12 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2001 13:58:12.0701 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C6FA8D0:01C15A38] I got cable at my new house for the internet access. Otherwise I liked satellite tv much better. The ability to access a greater range of stations and over a longer period of future time-scanning, especially with the tie-in to my vcr that automatically turned it on and off when a show needed to be recorded has not been matched by digital cable. To get the satellite throughout the house I got a converter that put the feed onto a selected channel and a remote converter that could read the signal anywhere through the house. The only downside was that everyone had to watch the same channel, but if you live alone it is not a problem. I eventually got a splitter and had one feed for the whole house and a second feed for my bedroom. This way I could record two different programs at the same time and, if I had company, they could watch one channel while I could watch my own in the bedroom. When I move again, I think I will get dsl for the internet and go back to satellite for tv. Jay From: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX (The dc-cycles list administrator) Reply-To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: dc-cycles digest for 10/20/01 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 19:00:01 -0400 (EDT) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ /-----\ __ 'dc-cycles' is an unmoderated email discussion list (__\/ _____ \/__) about motorcycling in the Washington D.C. area. =( \___/ )= \ ___ / An archive of the dc-cycles list is available at: | / _ \ | http://www.dc-cycles.org/ \ || || / \|| ||/ Subscribe/unsubscribe requests should be sent to: \| |/ dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX |_| ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 20:04:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Speedvision Petition Please go to the following site and sign this petition. That is if you don't want Speedvision taken over by NASCAR. When you sign the petition make an appropriate comment. http://www.petitiononline.com/svsn/petition.html _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: Ultimate Tire test Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:43:25 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 So sue me. But enjoy. 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(_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: RE: Speedvision Relaunch Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2001 23:45:59 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 I have to keep cable. I have 6 TV's in my house! -----Original Message----- From: cvkgpena@XXXXXX [mailto:cvkgpena@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:17 AM To: fj1100@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: Speedvision Relaunch Gary, I actually LIKE satellite TV, which is why this whole Speedvision thing is frustrating. I'm NOT going back to cable! In fact, just moved to a new house and am having the DishNetwork installed (I get 2 room capability and a digital recording receiver as part of the deal) on Monday. Speedvision is certainly one of the reasons I switched from cable to satellite, but not enough of a reason for me to switch back to cable. Just pisses me off though! Chuck Original Message: ----------------- From: Gary Foreman fj1100@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 22:42:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Speedvision Relaunch I just called DirecTV to make sure there won't be a fee for disconnecting me before a year is up. No problem. Pisses me off too. I purchased DTV for one reason, SpeedVision and MC races. I still have Cable TV in the rest of the house. The NASCAR crap is already taking over. So long DTV! Gary -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Pena [mailto:cvkgpena@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:06 PM To: James Reazor Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Speedvision Relaunch Just f***ing great! I watch Speedvision for everything except NASCAR (sorry NASCAR fans, but I find racing around in circles b-o-r-i-n-g!) Once again, the American consumer will be screwed out of being able to watch anything that isn't an American sport. No more WSB, GP, and F1 racing. And it sounds like there probably won't be much AMA racing either since the eventual plan is for it to be a 24-hour NASCAR channel. I guess it won't be immediately, but I'll bet all the "good stuff" will be at 2 or 3 in the morning (I guess that's what my VCR and my new digital recorder will be for, huh?) Thanks for making my day, James! Chuck James Reazor wrote: > > Read it and weep. > > http://charlotte.bcentral.com/charlotte/stories/2001/10/15/story6.html -- "The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 04:37:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian McCoy Subject: Re: Anyone seen... To: Steve Beck , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Steve Beck wrote: > LOL!!! > > I wouldn't be surprised to find out she impaled > herself on her helmet with horns. While attempting to shoot a BDC.... or her hubby. :P lol __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com _ _ _ _ .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) (_)=='(_) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:23:00 EDT Subject: Miata engine swallows BB's, doesn't like them. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subj: Re: Miata engine swallows BB's, doesn't like them. Date: 10/20/2001 8:03:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: PenguinBiker To: cnorloff@XXXXXX I worked on an old VFR once that some fool had "fixed" himself, the thing _literally_ had grass inside of it. The guy was working on it under a shade tree, (Yea, a "shade tree" mechanic.) and he had to stop to mow the lawn. True story. 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Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 09:29:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MDTtP04520 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-115-54.s308.tnt9.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.115.54] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15vf9I-0002yc-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:29:48 -0400 Message-ID: <005101c15afd$ef961260$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:27:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I find I'm spending more time travelling the Dulles corridor so I'm getting a Smart-Tag for the bike. Has anybody tried mounting the Smart-Tag transponder inside a Givi (or other hard luggage) top box? Say inside the lid. I'm wondering if one's body will interfere with the transmissions. Does the thing work in an Aerostich Roadcrafter chest pocket? Tank bag? I'd rather not mount it to the windscreen because it's ugly and not secure. Apparently Smart-Tag does not offer a motorcycle specific model, by looking at their web site. Is this true? And if so, how waterproof is it? I'd rather find a semi-permanent place for it on the bike somewhere. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 10:17:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MEHLP05315 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:17:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH8DL5>; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:15:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: pawilson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:15:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I used to take the toll road every day to work. They actually say the smart tag is not for use with a motorcycle. I mounted mine on the windscreen and removed it when I got to work or to home. I once forgot to put it on and it was in my pants pocket and did not register. I never had problems with it coming off even at the speeds the police watch you do on the toll road during rush hour. It will register at those speeds too. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:27 AM To: dc-cycles list Subject: Smart-Tag questions I find I'm spending more time travelling the Dulles corridor so I'm getting a Smart-Tag for the bike. Has anybody tried mounting the Smart-Tag transponder inside a Givi (or other hard luggage) top box? Say inside the lid. I'm wondering if one's body will interfere with the transmissions. Does the thing work in an Aerostich Roadcrafter chest pocket? Tank bag? I'd rather not mount it to the windscreen because it's ugly and not secure. Apparently Smart-Tag does not offer a motorcycle specific model, by looking at their web site. Is this true? And if so, how waterproof is it? I'd rather find a semi-permanent place for it on the bike somewhere. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 10:22:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11207.mail.yahoo.com (web11207.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.189]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MEMGP05394 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022142215.78854.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.251.87.214] by web11207.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:22:15 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:22:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Where's the Web site? To: DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Where is the DC Cycles website these days? www.dc-cycles.org is now some firm called Meretrix. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 10:27:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ddlexchange.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MER7P05485 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jstrang ([204.245.128.170]) by ddlexchange.ddlomni.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:16:21 -0400 From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles" , "Matthew Rosenstock" Subject: RE: Where's the Web site? Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:25:34 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <20011022142215.78854.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2001 14:16:21.0562 (UTC) FILETIME=[1FDC69A0:01C15B04] since the first quote is from Heywood Jablomie, I'd call this a hack. --jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:22 AM > To: DC Cycles > Subject: Where's the Web site? > > > Where is the DC Cycles website these days? > www.dc-cycles.org is now some firm called Meretrix. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 10:34:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MEYYP05602 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user196.anent.com [208.195.115.196]) by netgate.anent.com (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA19784 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:27:25 -0400 Message-ID: <004001c15b07$00fc06a0$0f49dad0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" References: <20011022142215.78854.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Where's the Web site? Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:36:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 I thought it was www.dccycles.com ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Rosenstock" > Where is the DC Cycles website these days? > www.dc-cycles.org is now some firm called Meretrix. From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 10:35:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20104.mail.yahoo.com (web20104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MEZiP05672 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022143542.81672.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:35:42 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:35:42 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: updating the archives? - where to straighten fork tubes? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I looked in back posts for advice on straightening tubes. Anyone got a shop that does this? Crossroads? (I plowed into the tires 2 weeks ago at Summit) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 10:42:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MEgdP05785 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:42:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH8DM4>; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:41:34 -0400 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: m_rosenstock@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Where's the Web site? Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:41:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" .com, not org -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:22 AM To: DC Cycles Subject: Where's the Web site? Where is the DC Cycles website these days? www.dc-cycles.org is now some firm called Meretrix. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 10:50:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([209.120.170.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MEonP05949 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:50:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture [209.120.170.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9MEoE810505 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:50:14 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011022104814.02904ad0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:50:36 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: Troutman Subject: Re: Where's the Web site? In-Reply-To: <20011022142215.78854.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed www.dccycles.com resides on one of my servers. We recently migrated to a new upstream ISP. Some people may have difficulty getting to the site until DNS migrates throughout the land. This should have happened everywhere by now. dc-cycles.org is Harry's site. Only Harry can explain what he was smoking when he came up with that. At 10:22 AM 10/22/01, Matthew Rosenstock wrote: >Where is the DC Cycles website these days? >www.dc-cycles.org is now some firm called Meretrix. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. >http://personals.yahoo.com ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:09:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13305.mail.yahoo.com (web13305.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MF9HP06343 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022150916.83975.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [159.40.33.240] by web13305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:09:16 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:09:16 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: RE: Where's the Web site? To: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I read through the site, it was pretty much cliche after cliche, so I thought it was a hack. Then I hit this quote: "And as part of the Meretrix Vision, as seen by our founder, respected technologist, humanitarian, and bon-vivant Harry Mantakos, we believe that anyone who takes this web page seriously is a complete idiot. Hell, I wasn't even wearing pants when I wrote it." Yup, it's a hack! --- Jon Strang wrote: > since the first quote is from Heywood Jablomie, I'd > call this a hack. > > --jon > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Rosenstock > [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:22 AM > > To: DC Cycles > > Subject: Where's the Web site? > > > > > > Where is the DC Cycles website these days? > > www.dc-cycles.org is now some firm called > Meretrix. > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > http://personals.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:17:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MFHrP06498 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-11-212.s466.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.11.212] helo=electraglide) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15vgpj-0003bI-00; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:17:48 -0400 Message-ID: <007801c15b0c$b2c86fe0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: "Paul Wilson" , "dc-cycles list" References: <005101c15afd$ef961260$bb82fea9@palladio1> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:17:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In Maryland, ABATE of Maryland worked with the MTA to come up with solutions to problems using electronic toll collection lanes (MTAG) with motorcycles. One task that is in the final evaluation phase was to have MTA offer a transponder mounting device for motorcycles that is suitable for most (if not all) models of motorcycles. The device mounts to the handlebars of a motorcycle. It has a swivel for positioning and a pad for the transponder that holds the transponder in place with velcro. The transponder can be easily removed to avoid theft when the motorcycle is unattended. The MTA worked with its contractor Mark IV to manufacture a transponder mounting device. The mounts are now being distributed to MTAG customers who have a motorcycle registered with their account. We have been told by MTA that other states will probably evaluate the MTAG solution and perhaps make it available to their customers. I would contact some one in the VA Department of Transportation and ask them if VA is aware of the MD effort and if they intend to come up with a solution to this problem for VA motorcycle riders. There is a thing called the Inter Agency Group (IAG) that is responsible for coordinating reciprocity agreements (among other things) between states and their electronic toll collection systems. In an early meeting with MTA we were told that the MTAG motorcycle transponder mount would be submitted to the IAG for evaluation and approval. I don't know if this has happened yet, but I suspect that it will occur soon. Kathleen Loerich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:27 AM Subject: Smart-Tag questions > I find I'm spending more time travelling the Dulles corridor so I'm getting > a Smart-Tag for the bike. Has anybody tried mounting the Smart-Tag > transponder inside a Givi (or other hard luggage) top box? Say inside the > lid. I'm wondering if one's body will interfere with the transmissions. > Does the thing work in an Aerostich Roadcrafter chest pocket? Tank bag? > I'd rather not mount it to the windscreen because it's ugly and not secure. > > Apparently Smart-Tag does not offer a motorcycle specific model, by looking > at their web site. Is this true? And if so, how waterproof is it? I'd > rather find a semi-permanent place for it on the bike somewhere. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750F > www.wilsonline.org > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:20:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20110.mail.yahoo.com (web20110.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.47]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MFKFP06619 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022152015.55233.qmail@web20110.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20110.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:20:15 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: It's NOT a hack!! RE: Where's the Web site? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011022150916.83975.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I didn't think listers had such short memories... Somebody kicked the power cord for the server sitting under what's his name's kitchen table. Once the box is back up, the site will be too. geez. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:24:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MFOgP06689 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:24:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-11-212.s466.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.11.212] helo=electraglide) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15vgwK-00059o-00; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:24:37 -0400 Message-ID: <008701c15b0d$a6957640$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: , , References: Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:23:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 If VA tells you that Smart Tag lanes are not for motorcycle use, remind them that there is a federal law, ISTEA-21, that stipulates that all Intelligent Transportation System (ITS) will accommodate motorcycle traffic. Electronic Toll Collection facilities are part of ITS technologies. In Maryland, ABATE of Maryland mentioned this federal legislation to MTA officials and filed a Maryland bill that would require MTA to accommodate motorcycle traffic in MTAG lanes. The Maryland bill was later withdrawn because MTA was extremely cooperative and worked to solve difficulties encountered by motorcycle traffic. ABATE of Maryland, MTA, and Maryland legislators worked cooperatively to solve this problem. In one legislators office we had an intern who was assigned to just this project. His primary job during one session was to work with us and the MTA to resolve this issue. Kathleen Loerich ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: RE: Smart-Tag questions > I used to take the toll road every day to work. They actually say the smart > tag is not for use with a motorcycle. I mounted mine on the windscreen and > removed it when I got to work or to home. I once forgot to put it on and it > was in my pants pocket and did not register. I never had problems with it > coming off even at the speeds the police watch you do on the toll road > during rush hour. It will register at those speeds too. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 9:27 AM > To: dc-cycles list > Subject: Smart-Tag questions > > I find I'm spending more time travelling the Dulles corridor so I'm getting > a Smart-Tag for the bike. Has anybody tried mounting the Smart-Tag > transponder inside a Givi (or other hard luggage) top box? Say inside the > lid. I'm wondering if one's body will interfere with the transmissions. > Does the thing work in an Aerostich Roadcrafter chest pocket? Tank bag? > I'd rather not mount it to the windscreen because it's ugly and not secure. > > Apparently Smart-Tag does not offer a motorcycle specific model, by looking > at their web site. Is this true? And if so, how waterproof is it? I'd > rather find a semi-permanent place for it on the bike somewhere. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750F > www.wilsonline.org > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:33:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d10.mx.aol.com (imo-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MFXWP06992 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.4d.13108cff (15857); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web28.aolmail.aol.com (web28.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.4]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v81.9) with ESMTP id MAILINID58-1022113301; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:33:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:33:00 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Where's the Web site? To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <4d.13108cff.2905962d@aol.com> No clue what you're sniffing (share with the rest of the class. ;-) ) but, www.dc-cycles.org got me to the mailing list and www.dccycles.com is the website. I think it's just you. hehe Scooter In a message dated Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:24:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Matthew Rosenstock writes: > Where is the DC Cycles website these days? > www.dc-cycles.org is now some firm called Meretrix. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:36:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14605.mail.yahoo.com (web14605.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MFaXP07091 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022153612.29096.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.160.240] by web14605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:36:12 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:36:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Where's the Web site? To: stephen cutchins , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <20011022150916.83975.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii harry mantakos is the creator of this email list and that website. only because of the generosity of chris weaver, laura granato, and mike troutman do we now have a better looking website for the group.... --- stephen cutchins wrote: > I read through the site, it was pretty much cliche > after cliche, so I thought it was a hack. Then I hit > this quote: > > "And as part of the Meretrix Vision, as seen by our > founder, respected technologist, humanitarian, and > bon-vivant Harry Mantakos, we believe that anyone who > takes this web page seriously is a complete idiot. > Hell, I wasn't even wearing pants when I wrote it." > > Yup, it's a hack! > > --- Jon Strang wrote: > > since the first quote is from Heywood Jablomie, I'd > > call this a hack. > > > > --jon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Matthew Rosenstock > > [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:22 AM > > > To: DC Cycles > > > Subject: Where's the Web site? > > > > > > > > > Where is the DC Cycles website these days? > > > www.dc-cycles.org is now some firm called > > Meretrix. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:39:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MFdHP07135 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-114-98.s98.tnt9.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.114.98] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15vhAa-0000nx-00; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:39:16 -0400 Message-ID: <016c01c15b10$057bfa60$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Kathleen Loerich" , "dc-cycles list" References: <005101c15afd$ef961260$bb82fea9@palladio1> <007801c15b0c$b2c86fe0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:41:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Thanks for the update. When you say "handlebars" have you accounted for bikes with clip-ons? There's not a lot of room for mounting anything on the clip-ons. Now if VA would get reciprocity with EZ-Pass and M-Tag. Anyway, I thought EZ-Pass had a MC-specific unit (partially because there's a lower rate for MCs on some of the facilities that use EZ-Pass.) Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Loerich > In Maryland, ABATE of Maryland worked with the MTA to come up with solutions > to problems using electronic toll collection lanes (MTAG) with motorcycles. > One task that is in the final evaluation phase was to have MTA offer a > transponder mounting device for motorcycles that is suitable for most (if > not all) models of motorcycles. The device mounts to the handlebars of a > motorcycle. It has a swivel for positioning and a pad for the transponder > that holds the transponder in place with velcro. The transponder can be > easily removed to avoid theft when the motorcycle is unattended. > > The MTA worked with its contractor Mark IV to manufacture a transponder > mounting device. The mounts are now being distributed to MTAG customers who > have a motorcycle registered with their account. > > We have been told by MTA that other states will probably evaluate the MTAG > solution and perhaps make it available to their customers. I would contact > some one in the VA Department of Transportation and ask them if VA is aware > of the MD effort and if they intend to come up with a solution to this > problem for VA motorcycle riders. > > There is a thing called the Inter Agency Group (IAG) that is responsible for > coordinating reciprocity agreements (among other things) between states and > their electronic toll collection systems. In an early meeting with MTA we > were told that the MTAG motorcycle transponder mount would be submitted to > the IAG for evaluation and approval. I don't know if this has happened yet, > but I suspect that it will occur soon. > > Kathleen Loerich From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:47:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11104.mail.yahoo.com (web11104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MFlBP07407 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:47:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022154710.2224.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:47:10 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:47:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: updating the archives? - where to straighten fork tubes? To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011022143542.81672.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you're talking about a bent tube, I'm pretty sure it's bent for good. If you're talking about twisting the fork tubes in the triple clamp to straighten them, you can probably do that yourself. I watched a mechanic do this once by loosening the clamps slightly and bumping the side of the tire against a curb. You get it pretty accurate this way if you take your time and sight down the tubes each time you bump the tire. I'm sure Denny at Crossroads could do this for you if you're squeamish though. Chris Weaver --- matthew patton wrote: > I looked in back posts for advice on straightening > tubes. Anyone got a shop that does this? Crossroads? > > (I plowed into the tires 2 weeks ago at Summit) > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:47:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MFlOP07410 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-114-98.s98.tnt9.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.114.98] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15vhIQ-0002Ye-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:47:23 -0400 Message-ID: <01a601c15b11$27051260$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: References: <008701c15b0d$a6957640$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:49:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I don't know why VA and MD insisted on developing their own kludgy stand-alone systems in lieu of joining the EZ-Pass consortium that covers the whole East Coast, including the WV Turnpike of all things. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Loerich > If VA tells you that Smart Tag lanes are not for motorcycle use, remind them > that there is a federal law, ISTEA-21, that stipulates that all Intelligent > Transportation System (ITS) will accommodate motorcycle traffic. Electronic > Toll Collection facilities are part of ITS technologies. > > In Maryland, ABATE of Maryland mentioned this federal legislation to MTA > officials and filed a Maryland bill that would require MTA to accommodate > motorcycle traffic in MTAG lanes. The Maryland bill was later withdrawn > because MTA was extremely cooperative and worked to solve difficulties > encountered by motorcycle traffic. > > ABATE of Maryland, MTA, and Maryland legislators worked cooperatively to > solve this problem. In one legislators office we had an intern who was > assigned to just this project. His primary job during one session was to > work with us and the MTA to resolve this issue. > > Kathleen Loerich From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:50:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11004.mail.yahoo.com (web11004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.54]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MFoBP07521 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022155010.37445.qmail@web11004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.160.3.131] by web11004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:50:10 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:50:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Calling Niv To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Niv, I lost your mail. I have found the resourses you were looking for before. Write me of list. Trey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:50:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11104.mail.yahoo.com (web11104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MFoKP07524 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022155020.2766.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:50:20 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: RE: Where's the Web site? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011022153612.29096.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks. Let's remember also that a lot of other people have contributed to the site. Most of the photos, stories, etc. are from various list members. Chris --- Tom Gimer wrote: > harry mantakos is the creator of this email list and > that > website. only because of the generosity of chris > weaver, > laura granato, and mike troutman do we now have a > better > looking website for the group.... > > > > --- stephen cutchins > wrote: > > I read through the site, it was pretty much cliche > > after cliche, so I thought it was a hack. Then I > hit > > this quote: > > > > "And as part of the Meretrix Vision, as seen by > our > > founder, respected technologist, humanitarian, and > > bon-vivant Harry Mantakos, we believe that anyone > who > > takes this web page seriously is a complete idiot. > > Hell, I wasn't even wearing pants when I wrote > it." > > > > Yup, it's a hack! > > > > --- Jon Strang wrote: > > > since the first quote is from Heywood Jablomie, > I'd > > > call this a hack. > > > > > > --jon > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Matthew Rosenstock > > > [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] > > > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 10:22 AM > > > > To: DC Cycles > > > > Subject: Where's the Web site? > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the DC Cycles website these days? > > > > www.dc-cycles.org is now some firm called > > > Meretrix. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 11:50:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11003.mail.yahoo.com (web11003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MFoiP07535 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022155043.84793.qmail@web11003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.160.3.131] by web11003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:50:43 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:50:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Calling Niv To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey Niv, I lost your mail. I have found the resourses you were looking for before. Write me of list. Trey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 12:11:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11002.mail.yahoo.com (web11002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.52]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MGBcP07926 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022161137.6787.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.59.120.202] by web11002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:11:37 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:11:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Davison, Scott" Subject: Re: updating the archives? - where to straighten fork tubes? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011022154710.2224.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all! This is my first post after a month of lurking, but I thought I could be of a little help. After crashing my F3 numerous times racing out in Colorado, I got kind of good at straightening twisted forks. Here's how I do it, YMMV! 1)support the front of the bike either by hanging it by some rafters (by the frame) or use your rear stand and jack the front up, on the exhaust or whatever. You can do it without damaging anything if you're careful. Anyway, lift it just enough to take the weight off the front tire. 2) Loosen both the triple clamps - not all the way, but enough so they'll let the forks twist! 3) Here's the interesting part. Buy or find some STRAIGHT (this is of the utmost importance, for reals) rods, roughly 3 feet long. Place one through your disk brakes against your forks, and place the other on top of your top triple clamps against your forks. The exact placement isn't important, as long as they are both against the forks, top and bottom. 4) Have a friend hold the wheel straight, straddle the bike, sight down the rods and make the appropriate adjustments, and tighten everything down. Wheee! Straight as an arrow! If it doesn't want to go straight (too twisted) try loosening the front wheel as well, sometimes that helps. Also sticking a breaker bar in the front hub for leverage can help. If they still won't go, it may be time for new triple clamps- it's happened to me on really easy low-sides. Sometimes they will go off even if you have NOT crashed, so this is a good thing for everyone to check. Hmm, trying to figure out what I've forgotten. I dunno, use your common sense, it's really not that hard. Try finding aluminum rods, check straightness on glass. Don't spit into the wind. Bring a battery charger to the races. Make sure no hornets have made nests in your airbox. Bye. Scott. P.S. There's some random pics on my website in the Temp directory if you're interested. ===== www.throttlegrip.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 12:21:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11002.mail.yahoo.com (web11002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.52]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MGLCP08165 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022162110.8678.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.59.120.202] by web11002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:21:10 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "Davison, Scott" Subject: Re: updating the archives? - where to straighten fork tubes? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011022161137.6787.qmail@web11002.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry for another post, but I saw something that could be misunderstood: > > 1)support the front of the bike either by hanging it > by some rafters (by the frame) or use your rear > stand > and jack the front up, on the exhaust or whatever. > You can do it without damaging anything if you're > careful. Anyway, lift it just enough to take the > weight off the front tire. What I meant was to use the stand as it's meant to be used, on the swingarm to support the bike. Then use a jack under the front of the bike to take the weight off the forks. This isn't totally necessary, but I liked to do it. Thanks, Scott ===== www.throttlegrip.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 12:23:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([209.120.170.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MGNNP08175 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:23:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture [209.120.170.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9MGMm810775 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:22:48 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011022122101.028fd360@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:23:10 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: updating the archives? - where to straighten fork tubes? In-Reply-To: <20011022143542.81672.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:35 AM 10/22/01, matthew patton wrote: >I looked in back posts for advice on straightening >tubes. Anyone got a shop that does this? Crossroads? > >(I plowed into the tires 2 weeks ago at Summit) I never automated the archives. I haven't updated them in a while now. I'll try and put some time into it next month after I finish moving. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 12:39:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MGdPP08454 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-11-212.s466.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.11.212] helo=electraglide) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15vi6k-00056u-00; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: <068801c15b18$180359a0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: "Paul Wilson" , "dc-cycles list" References: <005101c15afd$ef961260$bb82fea9@palladio1> <007801c15b0c$b2c86fe0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> <016c01c15b10$057bfa60$bb82fea9@palladio1> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:39:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 The actual clamp that goes on the handlebar is very small. The device has a swivel for positioning. Since I'm not familiar with 'clip-ons', I can't say for sure that it will work, but I believe that it will. EZ-Pass (NY and others) MTAG (MD), Smart-Tag (VA) should all eventually have reciprocity. My understanding is that the toll charged will be location specific to the toll facility that you are using, not specific to the location where your vehicle is registered. It seems to me (I don't know for sure), that the toll facility should be able to determine vehicle type to correctly assess the toll where there are differences in rates for MC and non-MC. A long time ago, I saw documentation on how the toll facility equipment could determine vehicle configuration. Whether this 'intelligence' has been incorporated yet, is unknown. EZ-Pass and others may distribute a different transponder for each account (MC/non-MC). I'm not sure. In either case the transponder design (size/shape) is the same, but the account characteristics recorded for each transponder may differ. k.loerich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Kathleen Loerich" ; "dc-cycles list" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:41 AM Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > Thanks for the update. When you say "handlebars" have you accounted for > bikes with clip-ons? There's not a lot of room for mounting anything on the > clip-ons. Now if VA would get reciprocity with EZ-Pass and M-Tag. Anyway, > I thought EZ-Pass had a MC-specific unit (partially because there's a lower > rate for MCs on some of the facilities that use EZ-Pass.) > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750F > www.wilsonline.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kathleen Loerich > > > In Maryland, ABATE of Maryland worked with the MTA to come up with > solutions > > to problems using electronic toll collection lanes (MTAG) with > motorcycles. > > One task that is in the final evaluation phase was to have MTA offer a > > transponder mounting device for motorcycles that is suitable for most (if > > not all) models of motorcycles. The device mounts to the handlebars of a > > motorcycle. It has a swivel for positioning and a pad for the transponder > > that holds the transponder in place with velcro. The transponder can be > > easily removed to avoid theft when the motorcycle is unattended. > > > > The MTA worked with its contractor Mark IV to manufacture a transponder > > mounting device. The mounts are now being distributed to MTAG customers > who > > have a motorcycle registered with their account. > > > > We have been told by MTA that other states will probably evaluate the MTAG > > solution and perhaps make it available to their customers. I would > contact > > some one in the VA Department of Transportation and ask them if VA is > aware > > of the MD effort and if they intend to come up with a solution to this > > problem for VA motorcycle riders. > > > > There is a thing called the Inter Agency Group (IAG) that is responsible > for > > coordinating reciprocity agreements (among other things) between states > and > > their electronic toll collection systems. In an early meeting with MTA we > > were told that the MTAG motorcycle transponder mount would be submitted to > > the IAG for evaluation and approval. I don't know if this has happened > yet, > > but I suspect that it will occur soon. > > > > Kathleen Loerich > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 12:40:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MGefP08482 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-11-212.s466.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.11.212] helo=electraglide) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15vi80-0005Ku-00; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:40:40 -0400 Message-ID: <069701c15b18$46242080$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: "Paul Wilson" , References: <008701c15b0d$a6957640$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> <01a601c15b11$27051260$bb82fea9@palladio1> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:40:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Reciprocity is coming for most of the I95 corridor. k.loerich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Wilson" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > I don't know why VA and MD insisted on developing their own kludgy > stand-alone systems in lieu of joining the EZ-Pass consortium that covers > the whole East Coast, including the WV Turnpike of all things. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750F > www.wilsonline.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kathleen Loerich > > > If VA tells you that Smart Tag lanes are not for motorcycle use, remind > them > > that there is a federal law, ISTEA-21, that stipulates that all > Intelligent > > Transportation System (ITS) will accommodate motorcycle traffic. > Electronic > > Toll Collection facilities are part of ITS technologies. > > > > In Maryland, ABATE of Maryland mentioned this federal legislation to MTA > > officials and filed a Maryland bill that would require MTA to accommodate > > motorcycle traffic in MTAG lanes. The Maryland bill was later withdrawn > > because MTA was extremely cooperative and worked to solve difficulties > > encountered by motorcycle traffic. > > > > ABATE of Maryland, MTA, and Maryland legislators worked cooperatively to > > solve this problem. In one legislators office we had an intern who was > > assigned to just this project. His primary job during one session was to > > work with us and the MTA to resolve this issue. > > > > Kathleen Loerich > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 12:48:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MGmYP08681 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id JAA17690 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:47:16 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:47:16 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thomasajordan@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Oh God, I NEED THIS MOTORCYCLE. Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:47:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9MGnuP08682 I'm in... -----Original Message----- From: Sean Jordan [mailto:eternity23@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:33 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; thomasajordan@XXXXXX; Jordan, Michael Subject: Oh God, I NEED THIS MOTORCYCLE. I'm assembling a crack-team of mercenaries to go with me to Japan to secure possesion of this bike. Anyone wanna help? http://www.motorcycledaily.com/19october01suzukiboostking.html "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 13:00:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f77.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.77]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MH0BP08936 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:00:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:00:04 -0700 Received: from 209.244.210.227 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:00:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.244.210.227] From: "Rob Keiser" To: pawilson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:00:04 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2001 17:00:04.0667 (UTC) FILETIME=[FEE348B0:01C15B1A] Paul, I tried many different ways before breaking down and mounting it to the stock windshield of the VFR. Chest pocket of my 'stich, map pocket of the tankbag, holding it up with my left hand, strapped to the top of my seatpack bag, etc. All with varying degrees of success. Yes, the mount on the windshield was ugly, but proved to be the most successful in registering, although I did find I had to go slower through the toll than I do in my cage. Not quite sure why that is, but so be it. If you have an aftermarket screen, however, you might not be able to mount it there. My ZG Double Bubble has too great of a curve. I haven't tried the Givi Topcase mount, but that could be interesting. Since I'm no longer making that commute from hell, though, I'll let someone else try it first. Good luck. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 09:27:06 -0400 I find I'm spending more time travelling the Dulles corridor so I'm getting a Smart-Tag for the bike. Has anybody tried mounting the Smart-Tag transponder inside a Givi (or other hard luggage) top box? Say inside the lid. I'm wondering if one's body will interfere with the transmissions. Does the thing work in an Aerostich Roadcrafter chest pocket? Tank bag? I'd rather not mount it to the windscreen because it's ugly and not secure. Apparently Smart-Tag does not offer a motorcycle specific model, by looking at their web site. Is this true? And if so, how waterproof is it? I'd rather find a semi-permanent place for it on the bike somewhere. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 13:01:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.89]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MH1pP08976 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:01:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (smtp-relay02-qfe3 [10.13.10.225]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9MH14R05458 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLM6M700.A2O for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:49:21 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-157.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.157]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLM5VV00.LCV; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 08:33:31 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:33:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Subject: Oh God, I NEED THIS MOTORCYCLE. From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thomasajordan@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Message-Id: <1A139E38-C702-11D5-AE0D-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9MH3DP08977 I'm assembling a crack-team of mercenaries to go with me to Japan to secure possesion of this bike. Anyone wanna help? http://www.motorcycledaily.com/19october01suzukiboostking.html "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 13:14:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f161.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.161]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MHEHP09214 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:14:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:02:12 -0700 Received: from 204.193.255.42 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:02:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Oh God, I NEED THIS MOTORCYCLE. Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:02:04 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2001 17:02:12.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AE9DE90:01C15B1B] Now THAT is one ugly bike! But I still would like to ride it. At least once. Doug Allis DHAllis@XXXXXX w: 202-482-5985 h: 703-912-9576 >I'm assembling a crack-team of mercenaries to go with me to Japan to >secure possesion of this bike. Anyone wanna help? > >http://www.motorcycledaily.com/19october01suzukiboostking.html > > >"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the >skillful defiance of it." > >M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) > >Sean Jordan >Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing >'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) >'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) >WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 >http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 13:15:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13803.mail.yahoo.com (web13803.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.13]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MHF4P09275 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022171500.33332.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13803.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:15:00 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Dr. Gridlock speaks up for us..... To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii About the NASTY habit of throwing your cig butts out the window. I hate that. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31321-2001Oct21.html My solution to that one is to drive next to the offender and politely ask them..."Does this model come with an ashtray?" When they say yes, then I say....."well f**cking use it!" ===== http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 13:22:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MHMPP09411 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:20:35 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:20:24 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: Carb questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9MHNmP09412 Hey Everyone, 92 Zephyr resto project. After getting a new/used fuel tank and a battery I fired the bike yesterday. Gas was leaking out of one of the carbs, I am pretty sure that the gaskets were in good shape and tight when I dismantled cleaned out the carbs. I think one of the carbs had a slightly sticky slide. If that was stuck open would the carb leak out fuel like that? Is there anyway to address that w/o taking the carbs out? Thanks, George Cole From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 13:30:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10003.mail.yahoo.com (web10003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MHUnP09666 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022173048.16292.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [158.59.128.101] by web10003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:30:48 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:30:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Burrow Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions To: Kathleen Loerich , Paul Wilson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <069701c15b18$46242080$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have talked with EZ-Pass in the recent past. They have no objections to motorcycles using the lane. They just don't have any mounting devices as yet. They told me that I could try it if I wanted too and if it didn't work put it in my cage or turn it in to them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 13:40:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.147]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MHecP09756 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:40:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.com ([24.15.187.164]) by femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011022174008.RDPC661.femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX>; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:40:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD4580C.4FE6E796@home.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:31:56 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kathleen Loerich CC: Paul Wilson , dc-cycles list Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions References: <005101c15afd$ef961260$bb82fea9@palladio1> <007801c15b0c$b2c86fe0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathleen Loerich wrote: > > One task that is in the final evaluation phase was to have MTA offer a > transponder mounting device for motorcycles that is suitable for most (if > not all) models of motorcycles. The device mounts to the handlebars Oops, I suppose one has to have actual honest to gawd handlebars for such a thing to work, huh? Yet another reason why clipons suck. Horkster -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 13:42:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r05.mx.aol.com (imo-r05.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.101]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MHg8P09828 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:42:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-r05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.119.674683b (4468) for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:42:05 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <119.674683b.2905b46c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:42:04 EDT Subject: Re: Carb questions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_119.674683b.2905b46c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10535 --part1_119.674683b.2905b46c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George.Cole@XXXXXX writes: > I think one of the carbs had a slightly sticky slide. If that was stuck open > would the carb leak out fuel like that? Is there anyway to address that w/o > The slide sticking won't make it leak fuel. But that could cause the engine to stay revving when you don't want it to...bad scenario. Is it coming out from the bottom? If it is it sounds like the float valve is stuck. You can try to tap it with a screwdriver handle to see if stops but the best way is to pull off the float bowl and fix it permanently. You don't want the bike to start leaking fuel in a garage or while riding for that matter. All kinds of bad scenarios come to mind... :) On some bikes you can drop the offending float bowl without removing the carbs. If that doesn't work come out to Winchester and I'll help you fix it. HTH, Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_119.674683b.2905b46c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George.Cole@XXXXXX writes:


I think one of the carbs had a slightly sticky slide. If that was stuck open would the carb leak out fuel like that? Is there anyway to address that w/o taking the carbs out?


 The slide sticking won't make it leak fuel. But that could cause the engine to stay revving when you don't want it to...bad scenario. Is it coming out from the bottom? If it is it sounds like the float valve is stuck. You can try to tap it with a screwdriver handle to see if stops but the best way is to pull off the float bowl and fix it permanently. You don't want the bike to start leaking fuel in a garage or while riding for that matter. All kinds of bad scenarios come to mind...  :)
On some bikes you can drop the offending float bowl without removing the carbs. If that doesn't work come out to Winchester and I'll help you fix it.
HTH,
Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R --part1_119.674683b.2905b46c_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 13:59:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MHxhP10141 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:59:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUU/XALZRV1SkFrtMKPidykzQ=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GJDF5CEM; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:59:17 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:54:43 -0400 Subject: Shriner Unit Dinner Message-ID: <20011022.135444.-516143.6.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-63 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Here is a string of emails (sorry, but it is the best way to get the whole story in one place - start at the bottom, message from Bill, then, me, then Steve Clark) on a dinner/dance for the Kena Motor Corps. Bill is a great guy, and the Shriners do a lot of great things in the community. For more information, contact Bill. Tom --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tight Squeeze Racing Actually, the Kena Motor Corps are the full dresser Harley Hogs, so it is motorcycle based. They do the drill shows, and iron butt rides. Here's info about their latest excursion of over 13,000 miles... http://www.nvmsinc.com/SHR/index.html JLG and I will be present at the dinner, so you know there'll be bench racing, and endless lies about the GNF. Hope to see you there, Steve Clark Tight Squeeze Racing --- Tom Fitzpatrick wrote: > Bill Siewert responded immediately when inquiries were made about > using the Kena Temple for MARRC events, such as video night. > Although this is not a motorcycle or MARRC event, it is for a good > cause. Plus, they've got those neat little cars, and may need some > corner worker help ;-). > > So, please consider, it's for a good cause. > > Tom > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: "Bill Siewert" > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 07:16:24 -0400 > Subject: Prime Rib Dinner > > On December 1, 2001my Shriner unit, the Kena Motor Corps, will be > having > their annual dinner & dance. This year we decided to go with an all > you > can eat slow cooked prime rib dinner. We will have all the > trimmings, > deserts, beer & soft drinks. Dinner will be served from 6-8:30 and > the > dancing is from 8-11p.m. We will have door prizes & 50/50 drawings. > The > proceeds of the night help our unit support Shriner's Hospital for > Children. If you can attend let me know before 11/26. We have to > place > our order for the food that day. Tickets are $20.00 per person, kids > under 10 eat free. > > Thanks, > > Bill Siewert > > (703)583-6860 > > Directions : From 495 : take route 50 west. Go about 7 stop lights > turn > left onto Barkley Drive (entrance to the Mantua Neighborhood) Make an > Immediate right onto the acess road. Main building is on your left. From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 14:05:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MI5vP10292 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id i.f9.1162d652 (15891); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web42.aolmail.aol.com (web42.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.3]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID86-1022140532; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:05:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:05:31 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Oh God, I NEED THIS MOTORCYCLE. To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Once is probably all you would get. After it throws the rider off and keeps going. :-) Scooter In a message dated Mon, 22 Oct 2001 1:20:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Doug Allis" writes: > Now THAT is one ugly bike! > But I still would like to ride it. At least once. > > > Doug Allis > DHAllis@XXXXXX > w: 202-482-5985 > h: 703-912-9576 > > > > > >I'm assembling a crack-team of mercenaries to go with me to Japan to > >secure possesion of this bike. Anyone wanna help? > > > >http://www.motorcycledaily.com/19october01suzukiboostking.html > > > > > >"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > >skillful defiance of it." > > > >—Ernest Becker (1924-1974) > > > >Sean Jordan > >Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > >'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > >'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > >WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > >http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 14:06:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.108]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MI6AP10294 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:06:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.com ([24.15.187.164]) by femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011022180553.QIYR1132.femail12.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX>; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 11:05:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD45E14.EDC76404@home.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 13:57:40 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Cole CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Carb questions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Cole wrote: > > Hey Everyone, > > 92 Zephyr resto project. > > After getting a new/used fuel tank and a battery I fired the bike yesterday. > Gas was leaking out of one of the carbs, I am pretty sure that the gaskets were in good shape and tight when I dismantled cleaned out the carbs. Being as it's a Kawasaki, your vacuuum-operated petcock may have gone T.U. Pull off the gas line at the petcock and see if it is leaking fuel. Happens with the Connie petcocks all too frequently. Evidently there are petcock repair kits for sale out there at semi-reasonable ($20 or so) prices. Good luck, Hork -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 14:54:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MIs3P11054 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:54:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-11-212.s466.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.11.212] helo=electraglide) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15vkD3-0001sj-00; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:54:02 -0400 Message-ID: <002f01c15b2a$e7669ba0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: "Dale Horstman" Cc: "Paul Wilson" , "dc-cycles list" References: <005101c15afd$ef961260$bb82fea9@palladio1> <007801c15b0c$b2c86fe0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> <3BD4580C.4FE6E796@home.com> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:53:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 ok. I'm uninformed. What the hell do 'clip-ons' look like. k.loerich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Horstman" To: "Kathleen Loerich" Cc: "Paul Wilson" ; "dc-cycles list" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > Kathleen Loerich wrote: > > > > One task that is in the final evaluation phase was to have MTA offer a > > transponder mounting device for motorcycles that is suitable for most (if > > not all) models of motorcycles. The device mounts to the handlebars > > Oops, I suppose one has to have actual honest to gawd handlebars > for such a thing to work, huh? > > Yet another reason why clipons suck. > > Horkster > > -- > MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! > Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 15:00:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11108.mail.yahoo.com (web11108.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.155]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MJ0jP11215 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022190043.33025.qmail@web11108.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11108.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:00:43 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 12:00:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <002f01c15b2a$e7669ba0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Clip-ons are individual bars for each fork tube. Instead of a single bar going across the top clamp and bolting to it, each clip-on bolts directly to the fork tubes (either above or below the top clamp). Most sport bikes have clip-ons rather than a traditional handlebar, probably because it gives more direct feedback from the front tire. Chris Weaver --- Kathleen Loerich wrote: > ok. I'm uninformed. What the hell do 'clip-ons' > look like. > > k.loerich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Horstman" > To: "Kathleen Loerich" > Cc: "Paul Wilson" ; > "dc-cycles list" > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:31 PM > Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > > > > Kathleen Loerich wrote: > > > > > > One task that is in the final evaluation phase > was to have MTA offer a > > > transponder mounting device for motorcycles that > is suitable for most > (if > > > not all) models of motorcycles. The device > mounts to the handlebars > > > > > Oops, I suppose one has to have actual honest to > gawd handlebars > > for such a thing to work, huh? > > > > Yet another reason why clipons suck. > > > > Horkster > > > > -- > > MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) > > > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX > > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > > > AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! > > Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 > > > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 15:08:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MJ8PP11312 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs724762 ([63.220.27.130]) by smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GLMFTV02.J06; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:08:19 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "'Kathleen Loerich'" , "'Dale Horstman'" Cc: "'Paul Wilson'" , "'dc-cycles list'" Subject: RE: Smart-Tag questions- Clip Ons Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:05:38 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c15b2c$8b01e390$1700a8c0@cs724762> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 In-Reply-To: <002f01c15b2a$e7669ba0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> Importance: Normal My TLR Clip Ons http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=107565&a=12402902&p=45098679&Sequence= 0&res=high -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Loerich [mailto:KathleenLoerich@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 2:54 PM To: Dale Horstman Cc: Paul Wilson; dc-cycles list Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions ok. I'm uninformed. What the hell do 'clip-ons' look like. k.loerich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Horstman" To: "Kathleen Loerich" Cc: "Paul Wilson" ; "dc-cycles list" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > Kathleen Loerich wrote: > > > > One task that is in the final evaluation phase was to have MTA offer a > > transponder mounting device for motorcycles that is suitable for most (if > > not all) models of motorcycles. The device mounts to the handlebars > > Oops, I suppose one has to have actual honest to gawd handlebars > for such a thing to work, huh? > > Yet another reason why clipons suck. > > Horkster > > -- > MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! > Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 15:10:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MJASP11336 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-105-92.s346.tnt12.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.105.92] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15vkSx-0006g1-00; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:10:27 -0400 Message-ID: <014501c15b2d$85af5200$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Kathleen Loerich" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <005101c15afd$ef961260$bb82fea9@palladio1> <007801c15b0c$b2c86fe0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> <3BD4580C.4FE6E796@home.com> <002f01c15b2a$e7669ba0$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:11:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 http://users.erols.com/pawilson/throttle.jpg They clip on to the exposed end of the fork tubes, hence the name. This is the throttle side clip on of my VFR. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Loerich To: Dale Horstman Cc: Paul Wilson ; dc-cycles list Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > ok. I'm uninformed. What the hell do 'clip-ons' look like. > > k.loerich > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dale Horstman" > To: "Kathleen Loerich" > Cc: "Paul Wilson" ; "dc-cycles list" > > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 1:31 PM > Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > > > > Kathleen Loerich wrote: > > > > > > One task that is in the final evaluation phase was to have MTA offer a > > > transponder mounting device for motorcycles that is suitable for most > (if > > > not all) models of motorcycles. The device mounts to the handlebars > > > > > Oops, I suppose one has to have actual honest to gawd handlebars > > for such a thing to work, huh? > > > > Yet another reason why clipons suck. > > > > Horkster > > > > -- > > MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) > > > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX > > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > > > AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! > > Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 > > > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress > > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 15:59:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MJxCP12067 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.170.2b48962 (3960) for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:59:03 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <170.2b48962.2905d487@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:59:03 EDT Subject: OT-computer question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 Sorry for the bandwidth... I just downloaded the new version of AOL and was wondering if my mail still contains the dreaded HTML??? Thanks, Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 16:54:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fc2.capaccess.org (fc2.capaccess.org.199.200.151.IN-ADDR.ARPA [151.200.199.52] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MKsFP12947 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-id: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 16:54:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Carb questions To: the.horkster@XXXXXX Cc: george.cole@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" References: <3BD45E14.EDC76404@XXXXXX> In-Reply-To: <3BD45E14.EDC76404@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If it's leaking out of "one of the carbs", it seems unlikely to be a vacuum problem at the petcock. More likely: (1) stuck float (tap the carb to dislodge it); (2) untightened drain screw (No, *I* never forget stuff like this...well, hardly ever.); (3) float bowl gasket (remove; replace or reseal). --garcia "It seemed like a good idea...at the time." the.horkster@XXXXXX writes: >George Cole wrote: >> >> Hey Everyone, >> >> 92 Zephyr resto project. >> >> After getting a new/used fuel tank and a battery I fired the bike >yesterday. >> Gas was leaking out of one of the carbs, I am pretty sure that the >gaskets were in good shape and tight when I dismantled cleaned out the >carbs. > >Being as it's a Kawasaki, your vacuuum-operated petcock may have >gone T.U. Pull off the gas line at the petcock and see if it is >leaking fuel. Happens with the Connie petcocks all too frequently. > >Evidently there are petcock repair kits for sale out there at >semi-reasonable ($20 or so) prices. > >Good luck, >Hork > >-- >MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) > >Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX >Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > >AWSHIDT #322 - 92 of 99 done! >Still need US19,US25,78,US80,82,US90,96 > >'98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer >'99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi >'82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 17:25:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14601.mail.yahoo.com (web14601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.79]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MLPGP13483 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022212515.40686.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.160.240] by web14601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:25:15 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:25:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Congrats.... To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Todd Peer wrote: > > Actually, Tom has spent over 19 hours on a CBR900RR from > Springfield, VA to > Miami, FL. AND it was an average 26 degrees F. all the > way to the Georgia border. =:0 yes, but i had an electric vest.... the fact that it (un-noticed at the time) burned a hole through the skin, fat, and muscle of my stomach does make me feel slightly less guilty about wearing it though! > ------------------------------------ > From: "Jon Strang" > To: "dc-cycles" > Subject: RE: Congrats.... > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:57:00 -0400 > > Leon must hate Tom. He wants him to spend 12 hours on a > Ducati. In a row. > -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 17:33:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (albatross.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.120]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MLXaP13666 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-4-3-185-229.elnk.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.185.229]) by albatross.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28455 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011022173222.00aa6c10@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:33:52 -0400 To: "dc-cycles list" From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions In-Reply-To: <014501c15b2d$85af5200$bb82fea9@palladio1> References: <005101c15afd$ef961260$bb82fea9@palladio1> <007801c15b0c$b2c86fe0$1d00a8c0@XXXXXX> <3BD4580C.4FE6E796@XXXXXX> <002f01c15b2a$e7669ba0$1d00a8c0@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:11 PM 10/22/01, Paul Wilson wrote: >http://users.erols.com/pawilson/throttle.jpg Yes! Throttle Rockers rule! Gotta be the best under-$10 bike accessory of all time... -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 17:42:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MLgJP13829 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vaio ([24.6.106.133]) by femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011022214203.FBMV26359.femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com@vaio> for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:42:03 -0700 Message-ID: <006001c15b42$da912900$6401a8c0@Home> From: "James Reazor" To: References: Subject: Re: Oh God, I NEED THIS MOTORCYCLE. Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:45:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I kinda like the look but I don't know why you'd want to turbocharge the 'Busa engine. I don't know is any thing short of wheelie bars would keep the front end down. Come to think of it... I guess that IS why you'd want to turbocharge the 'Busa engine. -James '00 SV650 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Allis" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: RE: Oh God, I NEED THIS MOTORCYCLE. > Now THAT is one ugly bike! > But I still would like to ride it. At least once. > > > Doug Allis > DHAllis@XXXXXX > w: 202-482-5985 > h: 703-912-9576 > > > > > >I'm assembling a crack-team of mercenaries to go with me to Japan to > >secure possesion of this bike. Anyone wanna help? > > > >http://www.motorcycledaily.com/19october01suzukiboostking.html > > > > > >"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > >skillful defiance of it." > > > >-Ernest Becker (1924-1974) > > > >Sean Jordan > >Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > >'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > >'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > >WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > >http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 17:45:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MLjbP13913 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:45:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4GV0VHXA>; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:45:32 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19D@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: Family rider Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:45:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Well, it's official, I'm a Dad! My riding and posting has been cut back lately due to the arrival of my daughter, Gabrielle. She was born 10/10 and came in at 6 lbs, 3 oz. My world hasn't been this rocked since I discovered what happens when you turn the CBR's throttle all the way. I can attest that her intake and exhaust systems are fully functional. It's so cool, she lays in her crib and makes putt-putt noises like an old Bultaco. Now comes the "you can't ride, you're a parent!" routines from my coworkers, that's a decision I haven't faced yet. Looking forward to getting her one of those electric motorcycles as soon as she's old enough to walk. Cycle World this month has a great spread on kid's motocross and leagues start at age 5! Time to catch up on old posts, thanks for the responses to my camcorder quest (still looking). Congratulations on the racing successes amongst DC-Cycles folks. Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 Annandale, VA From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 18:01:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20104.mail.yahoo.com (web20104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MM1iP14170 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022220143.54733.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:01:43 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:01:43 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: Family rider To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19D@NCEAEXCHANGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii next bike night I expect to see all the new little ones in attendance!! at my imperfect count there are at least 2 now. I'm sure we can all make the approprate zoom/zoom sounds with our vocal cords lest the howling exhausts of the real thing traumatize (er, hook) them for life. Plus, no parent appreciates a peacefully slumbering baby being rudely awakened. Sometimes I wish my childhood was a little different. Screw Napalm (or coffee) in the morning, I want to wake to the smell of burning hydrocarbons!! Congratulations all around to the new moms and dads. I don't know how wives/new moms would handle it but at the very least I make sure my life insurance is well paid up. Then again one can have a life-altering event just by riding the Red line metro... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 18:47:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ex-ny-1.digisle.com (ex-ny-1.digisle.com [167.216.152.172]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9MMlIP14865 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:47:18 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4712.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Subject: Y2k RSV Mille For Sale Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:47:32 -0400 Message-ID: <05B0BFE5A436384897ADE5A857B1BE280508CA@ex-ny-1.digisle.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Y2k RSV Mille For Sale Thread-Index: AcEpq4Nd5pEFbk9MTsuigUCu5lzmjAxn5sbw From: "Grant Conroy" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9MMmgP14866 Hi everyone, Sorry for the second post, but I'm moving next week and still have this bike. I love it, but don't have room in NYC for two. I'll take any good offer at this point, so here are the details. It's still under warranty for the next two years. 2000 RSV Mille in Arlington, VA. Will deliver to New York City as well. 1250 miles. (I am the first owner.) Blue and red original paint scheme. Carefully broken in- I had no idea I would be selling it. The bike has the Aprilia Racing Ti Chip and Pipe. It's located in Arlington, VA, but I can deliver within reason, or work something out for shipping. I've never had a problem with the bike- it was derestricted by the dealer I purchased it from, and had it's 600 mile service and all other work done by Fast Lane Cycles. I'm asking $8500 OBO. For more info, you can reach me via grant@XXXXXX or at (703) 338-1516 (cell). Thanks, --grant A. Grant Conroy Senior Systems Architect Digital Island, a Cable & Wireless Company rm -rf /bin/laden From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 18:52:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14607.mail.yahoo.com (web14607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.87]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9MMqRP14954 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:52:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011022225226.95536.qmail@web14607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.40.80] by web14607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:52:26 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:52:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Family rider To: Cedric Bernescut , "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org \(E-mail\)" In-Reply-To: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19D@NCEAEXCHANGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii that's great, cedric. good luck over the next year getting rest and remaining sane! and don't let the co-workers into your brain either....there are plenty of happy motorcycling families --- Cedric Bernescut wrote: > Well, it's official, I'm a Dad! > My riding and posting has been cut back lately due to the > arrival of my > daughter, Gabrielle. > She was born 10/10 and came in at 6 lbs, 3 oz. My world > hasn't been this > rocked since I discovered what happens when you turn the > CBR's throttle all > the way. I can attest that her intake and exhaust > systems are fully > functional. It's so cool, she lays in her crib and makes > putt-putt noises > like an old Bultaco. Now comes the "you can't ride, > you're a parent!" > routines from my coworkers, that's a decision I haven't > faced yet. Looking > forward to getting her one of those electric motorcycles > as soon as she's > old enough to walk. Cycle World this month has a great > spread on kid's > motocross and leagues start at age 5! > Time to catch up on old posts, thanks for the responses > to my camcorder > quest (still looking). > Congratulations on the racing successes amongst DC-Cycles > folks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 20:34:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f40.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9N0YkP16434 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 17:22:41 -0700 Received: from 24.4.252.20 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 00:22:40 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.4.252.20] From: "Blake S" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Joe Rocket ballistic mesh jacket. Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:22:40 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2001 00:22:41.0057 (UTC) FILETIME=[D3BAD110:01C15B58] hey everyone, i just got back from a visit at powerride in woodbridge and noticed the joe rocket ballistic mesh jackets are on sale for 129. (wow! finally down to msrp!). i got thinking that now would be a good time to buy one of these for next summer. my question to you is if any of you have seen a good deal/discount on these jackets at any of the local stores (NOVA)? Also i was having a question about the actual amount of protection these jackets would provide in a spill (not that im planning on one). any of you have any opinions on this? just a thought that was in my mind. thanks, Blake _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 20:57:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9N0vtP16792 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-247.patriot.net [209.249.180.247]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9N0vr121981; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:57:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD4BF15.93151F20@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:51:33 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cedric Bernescut CC: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Family rider References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19D@NCEAEXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Congrats! Welcome to the world of steenky diapers, car seats, the terrible twos, and later on the agony of puberty, follwed by the agony of college tuition. It's a ride, trust me :-) You're coworkers are anal. I got my first M/C after two kids. Before the safticrat age I'd pick up my 5 year old from school, plop him on he gas tank and hi-yo rice burner! He'd hang on to the crossbar of the handbars - learned press right, go right years before he had his first two-wheeler. Have fun! Bill Cedric Bernescut wrote: > Well, it's official, I'm a Dad! > My riding and posting has been cut back lately due to the arrival of my > daughter, Gabrielle. > She was born 10/10 and came in at 6 lbs, 3 oz. My world hasn't been this > rocked since I discovered what happens when you turn the CBR's throttle all > the way. I can attest that her intake and exhaust systems are fully > functional. It's so cool, she lays in her crib and makes putt-putt noises > like an old Bultaco. Now comes the "you can't ride, you're a parent!" > routines from my coworkers, that's a decision I haven't faced yet. Looking > forward to getting her one of those electric motorcycles as soon as she's > old enough to walk. Cycle World this month has a great spread on kid's > motocross and leagues start at age 5! > Time to catch up on old posts, thanks for the responses to my camcorder > quest (still looking). > Congratulations on the racing successes amongst DC-Cycles folks. > Cedric > 1996 CBR600F3 > Annandale, VA From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 21:19:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9608.mail.yahoo.com (web9608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.187]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9N1JlP17075 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011023011946.76130.qmail@web9608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [151.200.16.190] by web9608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:19:46 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:19:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: RE: Congrats.... To: Tom Gimer , Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011022212515.40686.qmail@web14601.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OMG!!! I hope you're alright! :-( - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > yes, but i had an electric vest.... > > the fact that it (un-noticed at the time) burned a > hole > through the skin, fat, and muscle of my stomach does > make > me feel slightly less guilty about wearing it > though! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 21:21:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9606.mail.yahoo.com (web9606.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.185]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9N1LqP17152 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 21:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011023012151.43659.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [151.200.16.190] by web9606.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:21:51 PDT Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:21:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Family rider To: Cedric Bernescut , "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org \(E-mail\)" In-Reply-To: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19D@NCEAEXCHANGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Congrats! I don't plan to stop riding if I have a child! Now I just have to convince the husband of that fact! ;-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Cedric Bernescut wrote: > Well, it's official, I'm a Dad! > My riding and posting has been cut back lately due > to the arrival of my > daughter, Gabrielle. > She was born 10/10 and came in at 6 lbs, 3 oz. My > world hasn't been this > rocked since I discovered what happens when you turn > the CBR's throttle all > the way. I can attest that her intake and exhaust > systems are fully > functional. It's so cool, she lays in her crib and > makes putt-putt noises > like an old Bultaco. Now comes the "you can't ride, > you're a parent!" > routines from my coworkers, that's a decision I > haven't faced yet. Looking > forward to getting her one of those electric > motorcycles as soon as she's > old enough to walk. Cycle World this month has a > great spread on kid's > motocross and leagues start at age 5! > Time to catch up on old posts, thanks for the > responses to my camcorder > quest (still looking). > Congratulations on the racing successes amongst > DC-Cycles folks. > Cedric > 1996 CBR600F3 > Annandale, VA > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 22:36:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail7.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9N2ahP18239 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [66.61.42.108] ([66.61.42.108]) by mail7.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:36:32 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:39:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Joe Rocket ballistic mesh jacket. From: David Cross To: Blake S , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > my question to you is if any of you have seen a good > deal/discount on these jackets at any of the local stores (NOVA)? If you are meaning the Joe Rocket Phoenix Jacket then check out Fast Lane Cycles in Chantilly. Rick had about 50+ in stock last time I checked in different colors. He lists them for $125 on the web site but might do better since its getting towards the end of the "riding season". http://www.fastlanecycles.com >Also i was having a question about the actual amount of protection these >jackets would provide in a spill (not that im planning on one). any of you >have any opinions on this? just a thought that was in my mind. Check out http://www.motorcyclegearreview.com/reviews.php?prodID=404 for reviews of the jacket. Dave SPAM: FZR400 Race bike for sale. http://www.davecross.com/fzr400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 22:51:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail7.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9N2pkP18484 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VIRGINIA.meyerweb.net ([24.168.215.73]) by mail7.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:51:43 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011022224855.00a7f9d0@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:51:49 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions In-Reply-To: <008701c15b0d$a6957640$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:23 AM 10/22/01 -0400, you wrote: >If VA tells you that Smart Tag lanes are not for motorcycle use, remind them >that there is a federal law, ISTEA-21, that stipulates that all Intelligent >Transportation System (ITS) will accommodate motorcycle traffic. Electronic >Toll Collection facilities are part of ITS technologies. Virigina has no problem. I registerd my Smart Tag to my ST1100. The only thing VA gets uptight about is if you move it from a vehicle in one toll class to a different one. But I use the same one on my bike and car with no problem. As for mounting, the former owner of my bike put a strip of velcro on the pod above the gauges, so I mounted a mating strip to the back of the smart tag and mount it there. It saved my from havingn to put the ugly semi-clear velcro stuff on the windshield. Mine's gotten moderately wet once, with no ill effects. It appears to be well sealed. HTH, Bob From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 22:55:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.143]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9N2tAP18507 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:55:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.com ([24.37.104.4]) by femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011023025458.DPCO22743.femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX>; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 19:54:58 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD4DBFD.D5C36132@home.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:54:53 -0400 From: "Steven C. Di Pietro" Organization: Suzuki Owners Club USA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Blake S CC: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: Joe Rocket ballistic mesh jacket. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blake S wrote: > hey everyone, > > i just got back from a visit at powerride in woodbridge and noticed the joe > rocket ballistic mesh jackets are on sale for 129. (wow! finally down to > msrp!). i got thinking that now would be a good time to buy one of these > for next summer. my question to you is if any of you have seen a good > deal/discount on these jackets at any of the local stores (NOVA)? Also i > was having a question about the actual amount of protection these jackets > would provide in a spill (not that im planning on one). any of you have any > opinions on this? just a thought that was in my mind. > > thanks, > > Blake > Blake, Riding with the Joe Rocket Phoenix jacket, with it's armor, is better than riding in a T-shirt. Sure leather's better, but when it's 90 + out there, the Phoenix is better than nothing. Steven C. Di Pietro Assistant National Director National Marketing Coordinator Suzuki Owners Club USA 142 Circle Road Pasadena Md. 21122-6036 http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 22 23:15:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.93.67.55]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9N3FNP18886 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 23:15:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VIRGINIA.meyerweb.net ([24.168.215.73]) by mail8.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 22 Oct 2001 23:14:00 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011022231241.00accc20@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 23:14:35 -0400 To: "Blake S" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Joe Rocket ballistic mesh jacket. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:22 PM 10/22/01 -0600, Blake S wrote: >hey everyone, >Also i was having a question about the actual amount of protection these >jackets would provide in a spill (not that im planning on one). any of >you have any opinions on this? just a thought that was in my mind. This discussion just happened on the ST1100 list. One member said he'd seen a couple that were "used." He said the jackets were pretty well destroyed, but had protected the riders. I don't think in a high speed slide they'd do very well, but in a moderate speed accident it'll probably help quite a bit. Bob From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 01:21:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9N5LRP20708 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from attglobal.net ([24.10.231.79]) by femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011023052121.TUAD26359.femail32.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX> for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:21:21 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD4FFD7.56C7C55C@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:27:51 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [ja] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Joe Rocket ballistic mesh jacket. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think they were selling it for $199 during the season... looks like they figured out nobody bought it. I have a red one but don't know or ever heard of how much protection it actually has. Blake S wrote: > > hey everyone, > > i just got back from a visit at powerride in woodbridge and noticed the joe > rocket ballistic mesh jackets are on sale for 129. (wow! finally down to > msrp!). i got thinking that now would be a good time to buy one of these > for next summer. my question to you is if any of you have seen a good > deal/discount on these jackets at any of the local stores (NOVA)? Also i > was having a question about the actual amount of protection these jackets > would provide in a spill (not that im planning on one). any of you have any > opinions on this? just a thought that was in my mind. > > thanks, > > Blake > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda3@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 01:29:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail29.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail29.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9N5TAP20787 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:29:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from attglobal.net ([24.10.231.79]) by femail29.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011023052901.NWXX21044.femail29.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX> for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2001 22:29:01 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD501A3.D6CC6A00@attglobal.net> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:35:31 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [ja] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: NESBA track day on Nov. 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Is anyone going to NESBA track day on Nov. 3 (sat)? I got an email saying they will also have the track for Sunday Nov 4. -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda3@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Honda on Honda... Hawk GT Super Hawk From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 01:29:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from wbln0014.worldbank.org (wbln0014.worldbank.org [138.220.29.7]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9N5TGP20790 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WBLN0014.worldbank.org (unverified) by wbln0014.worldbank.org (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:05:10 -0400 Subject: Mark Walker is Out of the Office From: Mwalker3@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:03:21 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 10/23/2001 01:05:10 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I will be out of the office starting 10/19/2001 and will not return until 10/29/2001. I will reply to messages following my return to the office. During my absence: => for guarantee operations, please contact Tom Duvall at (1)(202) 458-1513; => for matters related to the Russian Federation financial sector, please contact Jonathan Pavluk at (1)(202) 458-1781; => for other matters that require immediate attention, please contact either Richard Mance ((1)(202) 458-1525), or Judith Ramsay-Williams ((1)(202) 458-5979), who will assist you. Thank you. From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 07:39:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13901.mail.yahoo.com (web13901.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.27]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9NBdqP26472 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 07:39:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011023113951.26322.qmail@web13901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.15.184.123] by web13901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 04:39:51 PDT Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 04:39:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Re: NESBA track day on Nov. 3 To: DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: <3BD501A3.D6CC6A00@attglobal.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll be there. Keith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 08:33:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NCXdP27329 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:33:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:32:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200110230832.AA766312504@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: rent/borrow leathers? X-Mailer: I'm trying to get a set of leathers for this weekend - a big set of leathers, like about a size 54 I've tried the Leather Exchange and New Enough, no luck. Anybody know where I can rent or borrow a set of big leathers for this weekend? For Land Speed racing, by the way. http://www.ecta-lsr.com/index.htm thanks, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 08:38:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NCcUP27428 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id IAA11104 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:38:29 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <00bf01c15bbf$92781930$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19D@NCEAEXCHANGE> Subject: Re: Family rider Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:38:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Congrats Cedric! Enjoy now, for before you know it she will reach middle school and every scumdog boy you could ever hate will be oggling and drooling for her. That is when you will realize you should have been a nicer boy and it must be payback time. (My daughter is 12 going on 21) :) Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:45 PM Subject: Family rider > Well, it's official, I'm a Dad! > My riding and posting has been cut back lately due to the arrival of my > daughter, Gabrielle. > She was born 10/10 and came in at 6 lbs, 3 oz. My world hasn't been this > rocked since I discovered what happens when you turn the CBR's throttle all > the way. I can attest that her intake and exhaust systems are fully > functional. It's so cool, she lays in her crib and makes putt-putt noises > like an old Bultaco. Now comes the "you can't ride, you're a parent!" > routines from my coworkers, that's a decision I haven't faced yet. Looking > forward to getting her one of those electric motorcycles as soon as she's > old enough to walk. Cycle World this month has a great spread on kid's > motocross and leagues start at age 5! > Time to catch up on old posts, thanks for the responses to my camcorder > quest (still looking). > Congratulations on the racing successes amongst DC-Cycles folks. > Cedric > 1996 CBR600F3 > Annandale, VA > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/01 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 08:54:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from FW2.dt.navy.mil (FW2.dt.navy.mil [192.5.27.136]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NCrxP27669 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:53:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by FW2.dt.navy.mil; id IAA08900; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(130.46.225.16) by FW2.dt.navy.mil via smap (V5.5) id xma008744; Tue, 23 Oct 01 08:56:47 -0400 Received: from navgate.dt.navy.mil (navgate.dt.navy.mil [130.46.225.15]) by smtprelay.dt.navy.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA20375 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:53:25 -0400 Received: (from silbergejw2k [130.46.162.39]) by navgate.dt.navy.mil (NAVGW 2.5.1.12) with SMTP id M2001102308532407419 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:53:24 -0400 Message-ID: <019001c15bc1$fddf4c50$27a22e82@silbergejw2k> Reply-To: "Eric Silberg" From: "Eric Silberg" To: References: <3BD4FFD7.56C7C55C@attglobal.net> Subject: Re: Joe Rocket ballistic mesh jacket. Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 08:55:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Don't bother buying at powerride...go there...try it on...take a few dives on the floor with it...then order it online (or go somewhere else and buy it). No reason to pay list, especially this time of year. As far as protection goes, I've seen pictures of one post-lowside (about 70 mph I think), and while the jacket was pretty well mangled, I believe the rider was fine. It's a "single use" product, of sorts, but if it protects you, then it's served it's purpose. And it's not like you'll be throwing out a $1000 suit. FWIW, I love my Kush Hamamatsu...more expensive than the JR, but it is better made. They swear it withstands lowsides as well as leather, but I am skeptical about that to say the least. As always, YMMV, IMHO, MBIYT Eric From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 10:04:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NE42P28783 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4GV0V21T>; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:04:03 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19F@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Joe Rocket ballistic mesh jacket. Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 10:04:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ditto from me. I bought mine at Fastlanes and they were great. When I went to PoserRide and asked the attractive young lady how much it cost there I almost fell over. I tell you the last time an attractive young lady quoted me a price like that I ended up needing a round of penicillin shots, but that's for another list. My plan is to keep wearing the Phoenix under my First Gear Scout when it gets cold again. At least I would if the folks at Bedo's finish cleaning it. It's 2 weeks overdue, I think they lost it :) Or I'm just impatient. I also caught FastLanes when they had a sale and got my Phoenix for about $105. Cedric "Who needs loud pipes when you have a newborn?" -- > my question to you is if any of you have seen a good > deal/discount on these jackets at any of the local stores (NOVA)? If you are meaning the Joe Rocket Phoenix Jacket then check out Fast Lane Cycles in Chantilly. Rick had about 50+ in stock last time I checked in different colors. He lists them for $125 on the web site but might do better since its getting towards the end of the "riding season". http://www.fastlanecycles.com >Also i was having a question about the actual amount of protection these >jackets would provide in a spill (not that im planning on one). any of you >have any opinions on this? just a thought that was in my mind. Check out http://www.motorcyclegearreview.com/reviews.php?prodID=404 for reviews of the jacket. Dave SPAM: FZR400 Race bike for sale. http://www.davecross.com/fzr400 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 12:00:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.88]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NG08P00925 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-qfe3 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9NG05d04580 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com ([10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLO1S100.D2U for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:00:01 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-157.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.157]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLO1S000.P7Y; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:00:00 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 11:59:38 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Subject: Another bike that would be cool to have.... From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9NG1fP00926 http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/detail?sectionID=50677&documentID=97032 "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 12:16:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f152.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.152]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NGGjP01225 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 09:04:44 -0700 Received: from 151.200.109.76 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:04:44 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.200.109.76] From: "Todd Peer" To: gingerdc9@XXXXXX, t_gimer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Congrats.... Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:04:44 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2001 16:04:44.0557 (UTC) FILETIME=[6E5C73D0:01C15BDC] LOL! Just the type of sympathy he was trolling for ;-) It looked like little grill marks for sure though....hehehe. T >From: Jeannette >To: Tom Gimer , Todd Peer , >dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Congrats.... >Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 18:19:46 -0700 (PDT) > >OMG!!! I hope you're alright! :-( > >- Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > >--- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > > yes, but i had an electric vest.... > > > > the fact that it (un-noticed at the time) burned a > > hole > > through the skin, fat, and muscle of my stomach does > > make > > me feel slightly less guilty about wearing it > > though! > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. >http://personals.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 14:49:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NIn4P03630 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA01723 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:42:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:42:16 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Must have item for sale on ebay Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Something no self respecting dc-cyclist should be without... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=597016156 Hugh From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 14:52:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay3.softcomca.com ([168.144.1.70]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NIqbP03738 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:52:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w046 ([168.144.108.46]) by relay3.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:52:39 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Dr. Gridlock speaks up for us..... Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:52:35 -0400 To: "markkitchell@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2001 18:52:40.0060 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3D433C0:01C15BF3] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9NIs0P03739 No, no, no! The correct thing to do is pick up all the cigaretts butts and when the driver is stopped at a sign/light empty them back into his/her car and politely let them know that you're simply reciprocating their behavior/actions. Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark Kitchell markkitchell@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Dr. Gridlock speaks up for us..... About the NASTY habit of throwing your cig butts out the window. I hate that. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31321-2001Oct21.html My solution to that one is to drive next to the offender and politely ask them..."Does this model come with an ashtray?" When they say yes, then I say....."well f**cking use it!" -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 14:53:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay3.softcomca.com ([168.144.1.70]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NIrcP03751 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w025.softcomca.com ([168.144.108.25]) by relay3.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:53:40 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Dr. Gridlock speaks up for us..... Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:53:35 -0400 To: "markkitchell@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2001 18:53:40.0447 (UTC) FILETIME=[07D286F0:01C15BF4] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9NIsxP03752 No, no, no! The correct thing to do is pick up all the cigaretts butts and when the driver is stopped at a sign/light empty them back into his/her car and politely let them know that you're simply reciprocating their behavior/actions. Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark Kitchell markkitchell@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Dr. Gridlock speaks up for us..... About the NASTY habit of throwing your cig butts out the window. I hate that. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31321-2001Oct21.html My solution to that one is to drive next to the offender and politely ask them..."Does this model come with an ashtray?" When they say yes, then I say....."well f**cking use it!" -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 14:54:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay3.softcomca.com ([168.144.1.70]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NIsMP03761 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w071 ([168.144.108.71]) by relay3.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:54:26 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Dr. Gridlock speaks up for us..... Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:55:33 -0400 To: "markkitchell@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2001 18:54:26.0323 (UTC) FILETIME=[232AA630:01C15BF4] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9NItiP03762 No, no, no! The correct thing to do is pick up all the cigaretts butts and when the driver is stopped at a sign/light empty them back into his/her car and politely let them know that you're simply reciprocating their behavior/actions. Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark Kitchell markkitchell@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Dr. Gridlock speaks up for us..... About the NASTY habit of throwing your cig butts out the window. I hate that. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31321-2001Oct21.html My solution to that one is to drive next to the offender and politely ask them..."Does this model come with an ashtray?" When they say yes, then I say....."well f**cking use it!" -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 14:55:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay1.softcomca.com (relay.softcomca.com [168.144.1.67] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NItiP03774 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2w029 ([168.144.108.29]) by relay1.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:55:49 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Dr. Gridlock speaks up for us..... Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:56:06 -0400 To: "markkitchell@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2001 18:55:49.0381 (UTC) FILETIME=[54AC4B50:01C15BF4] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9NIv5P03776 No, no, no! The correct thing to do is pick up all the cigaretts butts and when the driver is stopped at a sign/light empty them back into his/her car and politely let them know that you're simply reciprocating their behavior/actions. Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark Kitchell markkitchell@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 10:15:00 -0700 (PDT) To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Dr. Gridlock speaks up for us..... About the NASTY habit of throwing your cig butts out the window. I hate that. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31321-2001Oct21.html My solution to that one is to drive next to the offender and politely ask them..."Does this model come with an ashtray?" When they say yes, then I say....."well f**cking use it!" -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 15:09:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NJ96P04045 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-qfe3 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9NJ8ot12018 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLOAIZ00.BDH for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:08:59 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-157.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.157]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLOAIY00.H84 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:08:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:08:36 -0400 Subject: Re: Must have item for sale on ebay Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <5C39D93C-C7E9-11D5-B2C8-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9NJATP04046 On Tuesday, October 23, 2001, at 02:42 , hcaldwell wrote: > Something no self respecting dc-cyclist should be without... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw- > cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=597016156 I'm the high bidder.... heheheheh "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 15:35:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d09.mx.aol.com (imo-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NJZSP04453 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:35:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SKeener2@XXXXXX by imo-d09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id q.133.3718ed1 (3964); Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:35:18 -0400 (EDT) From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Message-ID: <133.3718ed1.29072075@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:35:17 EDT Subject: Re: Must have item for sale on ebay To: eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 123 In a message dated 10/23/01 3:11:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eternity23@XXXXXX writes: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw- > > cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=597016156 > > I'm the high bidder.... And here I thought you only had enough cash in your allowance to cover the 'annoying personality'. :-)) From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 15:56:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f113.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.113]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NJuhP04700 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 12:45:25 -0700 Received: from 63.251.87.214 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 19:45:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.251.87.214] From: "Perry Coleman" To: SKeener2@XXXXXX, eternity23@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Must have item for sale on ebay Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:45:25 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2001 19:45:25.0768 (UTC) FILETIME=[42BCE880:01C15BFB] Maybe he took out a loan from Tom G? ;^) >From: SKeener2@XXXXXX >To: eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Must have item for sale on ebay >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:35:17 EDT > >In a message dated 10/23/01 3:11:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >eternity23@XXXXXX writes: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw- > > > cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=597016156 > > > > I'm the high bidder.... > >And here I thought you only had enough cash in your allowance to cover the >'annoying personality'. :-)) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 16:25:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14603.mail.yahoo.com (web14603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9NKPKP05152 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011023202519.62002.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.160.240] by web14603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:25:19 PDT Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:25:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Must have item for sale on ebay To: Perry Coleman , SKeener2@XXXXXX, eternity23@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i would gladly loan sean j. $1.28 if it would help to have him removed from the dcc subscriber list i would also be more than happy to make the same loan to you, perry ;) --- Perry Coleman wrote: > Maybe he took out a loan from Tom G? ;^) > > >From: SKeener2@XXXXXX > >To: eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX > >Subject: Re: Must have item for sale on ebay > >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:35:17 EDT > > > >In a message dated 10/23/01 3:11:43 PM Eastern Daylight > Time, > >eternity23@XXXXXX writes: > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw- > > > > cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=597016156 > > > > > > I'm the high bidder.... > > > >And here I thought you only had enough cash in your > allowance to cover the > >'annoying personality'. :-)) -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 16:29:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f59.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NKTCP05239 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:29:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:29:06 -0700 Received: from 63.251.87.214 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:29:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.251.87.214] From: "Perry Coleman" To: t_gimer@XXXXXX, SKeener2@XXXXXX, eternity23@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Must have item for sale on ebay Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:29:05 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2001 20:29:06.0099 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C93B030:01C15C01] Thanks Tom! You're OK. I don't care what everyone else says... ;^) >From: Tom Gimer >To: Perry Coleman , SKeener2@XXXXXX, >eternity23@XXXXXX >CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Must have item for sale on ebay >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 13:25:19 -0700 (PDT) > >i would gladly loan sean j. $1.28 if it would help to have >him removed from the dcc subscriber list > >i would also be more than happy to make the same loan to >you, perry ;) > > > >--- Perry Coleman wrote: > > Maybe he took out a loan from Tom G? ;^) > > > > >From: SKeener2@XXXXXX > > >To: eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > >Subject: Re: Must have item for sale on ebay > > >Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 15:35:17 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 10/23/01 3:11:43 PM Eastern Daylight > > Time, > > >eternity23@XXXXXX writes: > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw- > > > > > cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=597016156 > > > > > > > > I'm the high bidder.... > > > > > >And here I thought you only had enough cash in your > > allowance to cover the > > >'annoying personality'. :-)) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 16:44:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NKiMP05476 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.77.1cf7c1f9 (4116) for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:44:12 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <77.1cf7c1f9.2907309b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 16:44:11 EDT Subject: Re: Family rider To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/22/2001 6:04:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pattonme@XXXXXX writes: > I want to > wake to the smell of burning hydrocarbons!! Add a little castor pre-mix and it makes a lovely "breakfast" John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 17:11:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9NLB7P05912 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jreazor ([24.6.106.133]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011023211100.CGMM21507.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@jreazor> for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 14:11:00 -0700 Message-ID: <001d01c15c07$afb6be00$6401a8c0@Home> From: "James Reazor" To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org \(E-mail\)" References: <20011023012151.43659.qmail@web9606.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Family rider Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 17:14:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > Congrats! I don't plan to stop riding if I have a > child! Now I just have to convince the husband of > that fact! ;-) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Maternity leathers? -James '00 SV650 From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 23 22:00:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9O20JP10397 for ; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-86-113.s621.tnt1.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.86.113]) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15wDL4-0007I1-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:00:15 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Joe Rocket ballistic mesh jacket. Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 22:02:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1pictts15lrj35db9j95e00p8otj16c9bi@4ax.com> References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19F@NCEAEXCHANGE> In-Reply-To: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19F@NCEAEXCHANGE> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9O21jP10398 I believe i saw the jackets for like 100 bux in maryland too, it was either at heyser or the dirt shop. Anyway yea, i would imagine they are single use, but a lot of the time insurance companies cover replacement, so save your receipt! Danny From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 04:36:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.143]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9O8a7P16440 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:36:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from win2000j ([24.10.231.79]) by femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011024083601.CFJY22743.femail16.sdc1.sfba.home.com@win2000j> for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 01:36:01 -0700 Message-ID: <006d01c15c67$60416590$6601a8c0@win2000j> From: "Shigeru Honda" To: References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E19F@NCEAEXCHANGE> <1pictts15lrj35db9j95e00p8otj16c9bi@4ax.com> Subject: GSX-R with 4 wheels! Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 04:39:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Wow, a car with Hayabusa's engine... looks like a toy but sure looks fun! too bad its only a concept car. they should make it! http://www.autoweek.com/specials/2001_tokyo/index2.mv http://www.autoweek.com/specials/2001_tokyo/suzuki/gsx/1.htm From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 08:08:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OC86P19527 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:08:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.202]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id IAA29097; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:08:05 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <002801c15c84$7e24bd60$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> Reply-To: "Danny Thompson" From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Cc: "Kirk Roy" Subject: Saturday Dirt Ride Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:07:46 -0400 Organization: LHS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Anyone interested in getting together for a little fun in the dirt? I am planning on going to Tasker's Gap (near Front Royal) all day Saturday to do some dirt riding. Anyone interested in joining me let me know and we can work out a meeting place. Thanks, Danny Thompson Liberty High School Technology Education --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.286 / Virus Database: 152 - Release Date: 10/9/01 From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 08:37:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11107.mail.yahoo.com (web11107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.154]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OCbUP20006 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:37:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011024123729.90759.qmail@web11107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 05:37:28 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 05:37:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: GSX-R with 4 wheels! To: Shigeru Honda , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <006d01c15c67$60416590$6601a8c0@win2000j> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There is a company already making kit cars with Hayabusa engines. The manufacturer is Westfield and their car is called the Megabusa. I believe Westfield also makes kits with CBR1100xx engines as well. Caterham also makes cars with motorcycle engines, but I'm not sure which ones. I agree - they're very cool. However, most of the kits so far look very bare-bones. This is to keep the weight down so that the power to weight ratio is still really good. They're looked at as among the best handling cars on the road. Chris Weaver --- Shigeru Honda wrote: > Wow, a car with Hayabusa's engine... looks like a > toy but sure looks fun! > too bad its only a concept car. they should make it! > > http://www.autoweek.com/specials/2001_tokyo/index2.mv > http://www.autoweek.com/specials/2001_tokyo/suzuki/gsx/1.htm > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 08:44:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from laundry.annapurna.com (rob-0.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.145.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OCiLP20085 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:44:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from odinseat.annapurna.com ([131.182.40.166]) by laundry.annapurna.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9OCiAc23386 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:44:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rob@XXXXXX) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011024083556.039300e8@mail.annapurna.com> X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:39:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: Laptops In-Reply-To: <006c01c1570e$c6d9b680$bb82fea9@palladio1> References: <20011016140943.18910.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed FYI, a free computer backpack with any $150 purchase from Staples.com: Thought it might be useful to someone. /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 10:33:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20107.mail.yahoo.com (web20107.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.44]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OEXfP21938 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011024143340.43892.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 07:33:40 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 07:33:40 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Warning! masquerade site To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have no idea how I got to it: www.2wf.com or www.motorcycle.com or something but if you click to go to www.cyclemall.net and end up here: http://24.177.240.80:81/www/cyclemall/ you are NOT visiting an official site. It looks like somebody's private Macintosh that has snarffed the entire cyclemall site and is pretending to be it. I don't know if it's collecting orders and credit cards or not but it could very well be doing so. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 10:53:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.burtons.com (mail.burtons.com [38.211.127.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OEr9P22244 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cx210417-h.ldra1.occa.home.com [24.177.240.80] by mail.burtons.com; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:52:52 -0400 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 07:52:50 -0700 Subject: Re: Warning! masquerade site From: "Cyclemall.Net" To: matthew patton , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20011024143340.43892.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Totally false!! We have had to make a temporary redirection due to our ISP blocking port 80. This will be resolved in the next 24 hours. There is not now, or has there been a unofficial site, or version of Cyclemall.Net. Thank you for voicing your concerns, but they are not valid. Thank you, Frank Steeves Cyclemall.Net 949 453 1199 on 10/24/01 7:33 AM, matthew patton at pattonme@XXXXXX wrote: > I have no idea how I got to it: www.2wf.com or > www.motorcycle.com or something but if you click to go > to www.cyclemall.net and end up here: > > http://24.177.240.80:81/www/cyclemall/ > > you are NOT visiting an official site. It looks like > somebody's private Macintosh that has snarffed the > entire cyclemall site and is pretending to be it. I > don't know if it's collecting orders and credit cards > or not but it could very well be doing so. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 10:54:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OEsVP22263 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:54:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (washdc3-ar2-184-211.washdc3.dsl.gtei.net [4.3.184.211]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f9OEsDQ05261; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 07:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011024105248.00aaf830@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:54:33 -0400 To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Warning! masquerade site In-Reply-To: <20011024143340.43892.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_131979519==_.ALT" --=====================_131979519==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:33 AM 10/24/01, matthew patton wrote: >I have no idea how I got to it: www.2wf.com or >www.motorcycle.com or something but if you click to go >to www.cyclemall.net and end up here: > >http://24.177.240.80:81/www/cyclemall/ > >you are NOT visiting an official site. It looks like >somebody's private Macintosh that has snarffed the >entire cyclemall site and is pretending to be it. I >don't know if it's collecting orders and credit cards >or not but it could very well be doing so. Cyclemall.net resolves to 216.40.33.115, which is presently displaying an Apach "under construction page". Could be they're just renovating the site, or in the midst of changing hosts. -- Larry --=====================_131979519==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 10:33 AM 10/24/01, matthew patton wrote:
I have no idea how I got to it: www.2wf.com or
www.motorcycle.com or something but if you click to go
to www.cyclemall.net and end up here:

http://24.177.240.80:81/www/cyclemall/

you are NOT visiting an official site. It looks like
somebody's private Macintosh that has snarffed the
entire cyclemall site and is pretending to be it. I
don't know if it's collecting orders and credit cards
or not but it could very well be doing so.

Cyclemall.net resolves to 216.40.33.115, which is presently displaying
an Apach "under construction page". Could be they're just renovating the site,
or in the midst of changing hosts.

-- Larry

--=====================_131979519==_.ALT-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 11:38:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h001.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.115]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OFcpP23009 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 18223 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2001 08:38:44 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO truck.lemrow.com) (170.252.3.2) by smtp.lemrow.com (209.228.32.115) with SMTP; 24 Oct 2001 08:38:44 -0700 X-Sent: 24 Oct 2001 15:38:44 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011024113209.01f97738@mail.lemrow.com> X-Sender: firblt@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:38:25 -0400 To: "Paul Wilson" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Justin Lemrow Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions In-Reply-To: <005101c15afd$ef961260$bb82fea9@palladio1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Paul, my experience is as follows: the windshield on the VFR works very well for picking it up, but you have to drive right under the sensor (no matter where you end up placing it). this sucks b/c of the oil slick when it's wet, but it will keep you awake in the morning. also, if it's under the windscreen, it will stay pretty dry if you get caught in the rain. that being said, i lost a smart tag when a car piece of rubber (scrap tire) that hit my windscreen, then my helmet, then flew over me. sucked, but i (and the bike were ok). The smart tag got dislodged from it's velcro fasteners and hit the toll road at >70... it didn't survive. VDOT was not so nice, citing, as some people mentioned that smart tags are not for MC. i had a few words with the guy behind the smart tag counter, and got a new one, though i had to pay the $35 fee for a lost one w/o police report. However, what i found to works the best, is i got some more vecro strips, plastered the back of the smart tag with them, and then stuck it to my Saeng (www.saeng.com) GPS mount. I have their steering stem mount that offsets it to the right of the spedo and has a big velcro pad. it works great, is easy on/off and since i'm not usually commuting with my GPS ;) never have to worry about trying to get both to work. (when i do, i just revert back to holding the smart tag in my hand). Plus, it's out of harms way from flying objects. Good Luck :) Justin PS it is my understanding that the dulles toll road does not give discounts to MC's... did you (or anyone else find something differect... besides the second lane from the left trick at the main plaza?) ;) oh, if you try that Paul, your smart tag wil register even though you won't, so you may want to decide ahead of time ;) At 09:27 AM 10/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: >I find I'm spending more time travelling the Dulles corridor so I'm getting >a Smart-Tag for the bike. Has anybody tried mounting the Smart-Tag >transponder inside a Givi (or other hard luggage) top box? Say inside the >lid. I'm wondering if one's body will interfere with the transmissions. >Does the thing work in an Aerostich Roadcrafter chest pocket? Tank bag? >I'd rather not mount it to the windscreen because it's ugly and not secure. > >Apparently Smart-Tag does not offer a motorcycle specific model, by looking >at their web site. Is this true? And if so, how waterproof is it? I'd >rather find a semi-permanent place for it on the bike somewhere. > >Paul in DC >95 VFR750F >www.wilsonline.org 1999 VFR 800 Northern VA/Washington DC From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 11:52:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OFqYP23271 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH8FAG>; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:51:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: firblt@XXXXXX, pawilson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Smart-Tag questions Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:51:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You referring to how that lane never seems to pick it up? I'm scared to use that one out of they'll say I was going too fast for it to register and get a speeding ticket for a high speed in a 35 or whatever they lower it to there. -----Original Message----- From: Justin Lemrow [mailto:firblt@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:38 AM To: Paul Wilson; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Paul, my experience is as follows: the windshield on the VFR works very well for picking it up, but you have to drive right under the sensor (no matter where you end up placing it). this sucks b/c of the oil slick when it's wet, but it will keep you awake in the morning. also, if it's under the windscreen, it will stay pretty dry if you get caught in the rain. that being said, i lost a smart tag when a car piece of rubber (scrap tire) that hit my windscreen, then my helmet, then flew over me. sucked, but i (and the bike were ok). The smart tag got dislodged from it's velcro fasteners and hit the toll road at >70... it didn't survive. VDOT was not so nice, citing, as some people mentioned that smart tags are not for MC. i had a few words with the guy behind the smart tag counter, and got a new one, though i had to pay the $35 fee for a lost one w/o police report. However, what i found to works the best, is i got some more vecro strips, plastered the back of the smart tag with them, and then stuck it to my Saeng (www.saeng.com) GPS mount. I have their steering stem mount that offsets it to the right of the spedo and has a big velcro pad. it works great, is easy on/off and since i'm not usually commuting with my GPS ;) never have to worry about trying to get both to work. (when i do, i just revert back to holding the smart tag in my hand). Plus, it's out of harms way from flying objects. Good Luck :) Justin PS it is my understanding that the dulles toll road does not give discounts to MC's... did you (or anyone else find something differect... besides the second lane from the left trick at the main plaza?) ;) oh, if you try that Paul, your smart tag wil register even though you won't, so you may want to decide ahead of time ;) At 09:27 AM 10/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: >I find I'm spending more time travelling the Dulles corridor so I'm getting >a Smart-Tag for the bike. Has anybody tried mounting the Smart-Tag >transponder inside a Givi (or other hard luggage) top box? Say inside the >lid. I'm wondering if one's body will interfere with the transmissions. >Does the thing work in an Aerostich Roadcrafter chest pocket? Tank bag? >I'd rather not mount it to the windscreen because it's ugly and not secure. > >Apparently Smart-Tag does not offer a motorcycle specific model, by looking >at their web site. Is this true? And if so, how waterproof is it? I'd >rather find a semi-permanent place for it on the bike somewhere. > >Paul in DC >95 VFR750F >www.wilsonline.org 1999 VFR 800 Northern VA/Washington DC From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 12:00:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.88]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OG0CP23450 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:00:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay02.mac.com (smtp-relay02-qfe3 [10.13.10.225]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9OG05b15303 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLPWG400.1CM for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:00:04 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-157.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.157]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLPWG400.OHL for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:00:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 11:59:39 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Subject: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: <21752FEB-C898-11D5-BE24-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9OG1YP23451 A few weeks back I had my CBR1000 street-bike torn apart, trying to figure out why it was eating regulator-rectifiers. I had removed the rear cowling, and put the seat back on....since the seat-lock mechanism was located on the cowling, I had to disassemble the latching mechanism to remove the seat. Sometime between then and now, I lost the little bracket that bolts to the bottom of the seat, requiring me to use the stock seat. (Ewwwww!) I called Corbin today to order the replacement hardware. After a very brief wait, I spoke to one of their customer representatives, and he took my ordering information. When I inquired as to the cost of the replacement hardware, the rep told me not to worry about it. Granted, the parts can't be very expensive, but this was a nice gesture and a very positive experience overall. My next bike will have a Corbin seat! (It would have anyways, but now I'm even more inclined to buy from them.) "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 12:22:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11001.mail.yahoo.com (web11001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.51]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OGMNP23834 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011024162212.1986.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.160.3.131] by web11001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:22:12 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:22:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <21752FEB-C898-11D5-BE24-003065B452D2@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Pesonnaly I would like to kick Mike Corbin in the Teeth. He does make a nice saddle though (once they figure out how they screwed you over and spend two months avoiding correcting their mistakes). Trey --- Sean Jordan wrote: > A few weeks back I had my CBR1000 street-bike torn > apart, trying to > figure out why it was eating regulator-rectifiers. I > had removed the > rear cowling, and put the seat back on....since the > seat-lock mechanism > was located on the cowling, I had to disassemble the > latching mechanism > to remove the seat. Sometime between then and now, I > lost the little > bracket that bolts to the bottom of the seat, > requiring me to use the > stock seat. (Ewwwww!) I called Corbin today to order > the replacement > hardware. After a very brief wait, I spoke to one of > their customer > representatives, and he took my ordering > information. When I inquired as > to the cost of the replacement hardware, the rep > told me not to worry > about it. Granted, the parts can't be very > expensive, but this was a > nice gesture and a very positive experience overall. > My next bike will > have a Corbin seat! (It would have anyways, but now > I'm even more > inclined to buy from them.) > > > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of > death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 12:26:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14602.mail.yahoo.com (web14602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.82]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OGQvP23859 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011024162654.56072.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.160.240] by web14602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:26:54 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:26:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <21752FEB-C898-11D5-BE24-003065B452D2@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Sean Jordan wrote: > A few weeks back I had my CBR1000 street-bike torn apart, > trying to figure out why it was eating regulator- > rectifiers. I had removed the rear cowling, and put the > seat back on....since the seat-lock mechanism was located > on the cowling, I had to disassemble the latching > mechanism to remove the seat. Sometime between then and > now, I lost the little bracket that bolts to the bottom > of the seat, requiring me to use the stock seat. > (Ewwwww!) I called Corbin today to order the replacement > hardware. After a very brief wait, I spoke to one of > their customer representatives, and he took my ordering > information. When I inquired as to the cost of the > replacement hardware, the rep told me not to worry about > it. Granted, the parts can't be very expensive, but this > was a nice gesture and a very positive experience > overall. My next bike will have a Corbin seat! (It would > have anyways, but now I'm even more inclined to buy from > them.) glad to hear it!!! BEND OVER AND SQUEAL, BOY!! yes, that's mike corbin behind ya! -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 12:38:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20102.mail.yahoo.com (web20102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OGcHP24136 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011024163816.52910.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:38:16 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Update: Re: Warning! masquerade site To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Having chatted with their webmaster on the phone it does seem I jumped the gun a bit. Yes that is a personal mac but the redirect is ligitimate even though it looks like a classic hijack. His web store is in the throws of getting moved to another domain/machine and this was a temporary measure taken since his ISP decided that they'd block all port 80 traffic due to CodeRed etc. Still, he wanted to know all about how it all was possible to steal sites and such so I gave him a quick rundown for future reference. and he is even going to use SSL for his shopping cart and order taking in the future. (But I have to wonder about the security of transport between web server and his email box which is how he gets orders...anyone see the problem?) So I appologize to the list (and to him) and eat humble pie. Sometimes it pays to dig a little deeper... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 12:57:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OGvgP24507 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:57:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-qfe3 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9OGvRV17451 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:57:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLPZ3P00.BHZ for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:57:25 -0700 Received: from dhcppool127-157.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.157]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GLPZ3P00.S1A for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 09:57:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 12:57:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--134382678 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011024162212.1986.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <248D1068-C8A0-11D5-A9C3-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) --Apple-Mail-1--134382678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 12:22 , Trey Herb wrote: > Pesonnaly I would like to kick Mike Corbin in the > Teeth. On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 12:26 , Tom Gimer wrote: glad to hear it!!! BEND OVER AND SQUEAL, BOY!! yes, that's mike corbin behind ya! Sounds like you guys have had some bad experiences with Corbin....care=20= to share? "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the=20 skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1--134382678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 12:22 , Trey Herb wrote: Pesonnaly I would like to kick Mike Corbin in the Teeth. On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 12:26 , Tom Gimer wrote: 0000,0000,DEDEglad to hear it!!! BEND OVER AND SQUEAL, BOY!! yes, that's mike corbin behind ya! Sounds like you guys have had some bad experiences with Corbin....care to share? "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1--134382678-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 13:06:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11001.mail.yahoo.com (web11001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.51]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OH61P24677 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011024170600.10980.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.160.3.131] by web11001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:06:00 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:06:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <248D1068-C8A0-11D5-A9C3-003065B452D2@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii short story They sent a seat that did not fit the bike it took two months, many phone calls, and threats to get the money back. I think they assumed I would go away eventually. BTW - Sargent makes a nice seat for SV650. And they are nice to deal with. Trey --- Sean Jordan wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 12:22 , Trey Herb > wrote: > > > Pesonnaly I would like to kick Mike Corbin in the > > Teeth. > > > On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 12:26 , Tom Gimer > wrote: > > glad to hear it!!! BEND OVER AND SQUEAL, BOY!! > yes, > that's mike corbin behind ya! > > Sounds like you guys have had some bad experiences > with Corbin....care > to share? > > > > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of > death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 13:27:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13304.mail.yahoo.com (web13304.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OHR8P25075 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011024172702.15909.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [159.40.33.240] by web13304.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:27:02 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:27:02 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Disc replacement surgery question To: CBR List , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As some of you may recall, about a year and a half ago I crashed my RSV Mille at Summit Point. In the process I herniated my C5/C6 disc. Six months of pain, pills and acupuncture followed. The pain went away, but the doctor said that I would eventually have to get the disc removed. Well, I have a bad feeling that the time has come. My neck is starting to hurt and knot up and I am having difficulty moving my head to the right. The doctor said that they go in by my throat, go around to the spine, remove the disc, and slap in some JB Weld or something like that. Yummy. He said that the surgery is "fairly serious" (gee, imagine that) in that a mistake could paralyze you from that point down. That would be full paralysis, thankyouverymuch. I'm sure he was just giving me a worst-case but it still made me a little nervous. My question is, has anyone out there had this surgery done? What can I expect? Should I run from the doctor screaming and yelling, or should I go ahead and get the surgery? I am definitely not thrilled with letting a guy put a knife anywhere NEAR by spinal column, but then again I don't want to put up with another 6-month span of pain. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 13:30:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h000.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.114]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OHUlP25155 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:30:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 29804 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2001 10:30:40 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO truck.lemrow.com) (170.252.3.2) by smtp.lemrow.com (209.228.32.114) with SMTP; 24 Oct 2001 10:30:40 -0700 X-Sent: 24 Oct 2001 17:30:40 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011024131842.020617a8@mail.lemrow.com> X-Sender: firblt@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:20:27 -0400 To: RichH@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Justin Lemrow Subject: RE: Smart-Tag questions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed no, i'm referring to the part of the lane that avoids the sensors that pic you up... like you never went through. it is a bit close to the concrete divider, but oh well. true, that no matter where you go through, depending on how fast, you run the risk of getting a speeding ticket... though i'd imagine unless the cop is infront/behind you almost directly, he'd have trouble getting a clean shot during rush hour ;) Justin At 11:51 AM 10/24/2001 -0400, you wrote: >You referring to how that lane never seems to pick it up? I'm scared to use >that one out of they'll say I was going too fast for it to register and get >a speeding ticket for a high speed in a 35 or whatever they lower it to >there. 1999 VFR 800 Northern VA/Washington DC From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 13:40:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from test.kens.com (qmailr@XXXXXX [161.58.160.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OHejP25284 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 31624 invoked by uid 1005); 24 Oct 2001 17:40:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@XXXXXX) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Oct 2001 17:40:39 -0000 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:40:39 -0400 (EDT) From: X-Sender: To: "cbr@XXXXXX" cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: [cbr] Disc replacement surgery question In-Reply-To: <20011024172702.15909.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, stephen cutchins wrote: > > The doctor said that they go in by my throat, go > around to the spine, remove the disc, and slap in some > JB Weld or something like that. Yummy. He said that > the surgery is "fairly serious" (gee, imagine that) in > that a mistake could paralyze you from that point > down. That would be full paralysis, thankyouverymuch. > I'm sure he was just giving me a worst-case but it > still made me a little nervous. > > My question is, has anyone out there had this surgery > done? What can I expect? Should I run from the > doctor screaming and yelling, or should I go ahead and > get the surgery? I am definitely not thrilled with > letting a guy put a knife anywhere NEAR by spinal > column, but then again I don't want to put up with > another 6-month span of pain. I think a friend of mine just underwent something like this. She broke her back in a fall, and crushed a disc, a few weeks ago. The surgery went fine, and she's home, and probably on a better mend than she could otherwise have hoped for. YMMV..... -- Kate http://www.katewerk.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 14:02:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OI2vP25700 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.36]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GLQ00AJ323RJC@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:02:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp01.wcomnet.com by pmismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GLQ00E0123Q6Q@XXXXXX>; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:02:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GLQ00CAH23B2T@XXXXXX>; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:01:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 14:01:55 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! To: Sean Jordan Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3BD70213.F0FE0313@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <248D1068-C8A0-11D5-A9C3-003065B452D2@mac.com> Sean Jordan wrote: > > Sounds like you guys have had some bad experiences with Corbin....care to share? I have yet to see a used Corbin that DOESN'T have a tear in the fabric somewhere. Evidently the covers he uses have very little give to them, torn seems are way common. Just from what I've seen on other people's bikes, haven't had a Corbin on any of mine. Rock hard foam in most of them, too. OK if it is shaped right, and if your butt likes it, evidently. Hork -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 16:01:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14605.mail.yahoo.com (web14605.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OK1BP27682 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:01:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011024200110.24898.qmail@web14605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.160.240] by web14605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:01:10 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 13:01:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! To: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <248D1068-C8A0-11D5-A9C3-003065B452D2@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Sean Jordan wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 12:22 , Trey Herb > wrote: > > > Pesonnaly I would like to kick Mike Corbin in the > > Teeth. > > > On Wednesday, October 24, 2001, at 12:26 , Tom Gimer > wrote: > > > > glad to hear it!!! BEND OVER AND SQUEAL, BOY!! yes, > > that's mike corbin behind ya! > > Sounds like you guys have had some bad experiences with > Corbin....care to share? have you seen corbin's prices recently? apparently they recently DROPPED the price on a seat for my 996 to ~$200. for the love of God! its a plastic pan, plus a little bit of foam, leather and staples! i've actually been pleased with my 2 corbins, but i won't be paying their new-seat prices..... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 16:07:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OK7NP27772 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA04877 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:01:58 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:01:52 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Where to get maps Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could someone recommend a good place to get maps? I'm looking for a large (wall sized) map of Central and South America. Thanks, Hugh From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 16:41:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h000.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.114]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OKftP28258 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:41:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 6486 invoked from network); 24 Oct 2001 13:41:48 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO truck.lemrow.com) (170.252.3.2) by smtp.lemrow.com (209.228.32.114) with SMTP; 24 Oct 2001 13:41:48 -0700 X-Sent: 24 Oct 2001 20:41:48 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011024162600.02020cf8@mail.lemrow.com> X-Sender: firblt@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:41:31 -0400 To: hcaldwell , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Justin Lemrow Subject: Re: Where to get maps In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hugh, i like maps, and threw the following links together after reviewing a few sites. National Geographic (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/maps/) has a good map search engine www.wall-maps.com does have some good ones http://www.wall-maps.com/wallmaps/SAMPLES/southamerica.htm for south america Rand McNally has wall maps too (and this could be a good bet for selection) general (www.rnadmcnally.com) wall maps (http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/store/strProductCategory.jsp?OID=-8681&BV_SessionID=@@@@0356654573.1003955443@@@@&BV_EngineID=fadccfhjeijjbfdncfhjchhdjh.0) south america http://www.randmcnally.com/rmc/store/strProductDetail.jsp?OID=1073833789&POID=-8686&SeqNo=6&BV_SessionID=@@@@0356654573.1003955443@@@@&BV_EngineID=fadccfhjeijjbfdncfhjchhdjh.0 A Map Solution has a good site as well http://www.amapsolution.com/ has some maps http://www.aworldofmaps.com/ a lot of choices here http://www.galaxymaps.com/wallhome.htm plenty to choose from hope that helps you get started, Justin > Could someone recommend a good place to get maps? >I'm looking for a large (wall sized) map of Central and >South America. 1999 VFR 800 Northern VA/Washington DC From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 16:55:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OKtdP28480 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cfoatty3 (1Cust165.tnt1.fredericksburg2.va.da.uu.net [63.36.6.165]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA19040; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000b01c15cce$df369840$a506243f@cfoatty3> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "stephen cutchins" , References: <20011024172702.15909.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Disc replacement surgery question Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:00:09 -0400 Organization: CF&O MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Numerous personal injury clients of mine have had this procedure. Sometimes the doctor will take bone from the hip and use it to fuse the cervical bones together. The C5-C6 level is the most common level requiring surgery. Results, according to my observations, can range from complete elimination of pain to no improvement. I believe most of the clients I have represented who have had the procedure were satisfied with the results. Of course, range of motion is affected. Additionally, you must be careful with post surgery activities, as you are more prone to serious injury if the neck is subject to trauma. Be sure your ortho and neuro (if used) surgeons are board certrified. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Roy D. Turner, Esq. www.cfolaw.com ----- Original Message ----- From: stephen cutchins To: CBR List ; DC Cycles Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 1:27 PM Subject: Disc replacement surgery question > As some of you may recall, about a year and a half ago > I crashed my RSV Mille at Summit Point. In the > process I herniated my C5/C6 disc. Six months of > pain, pills and acupuncture followed. The pain went > away, but the doctor said that I would eventually have > to get the disc removed. Well, I have a bad feeling > that the time has come. My neck is starting to hurt > and knot up and I am having difficulty moving my head > to the right. > > The doctor said that they go in by my throat, go > around to the spine, remove the disc, and slap in some > JB Weld or something like that. Yummy. He said that > the surgery is "fairly serious" (gee, imagine that) in > that a mistake could paralyze you from that point > down. That would be full paralysis, thankyouverymuch. > I'm sure he was just giving me a worst-case but it > still made me a little nervous. > > My question is, has anyone out there had this surgery > done? What can I expect? Should I run from the > doctor screaming and yelling, or should I go ahead and > get the surgery? I am definitely not thrilled with > letting a guy put a knife anywhere NEAR by spinal > column, but then again I don't want to put up with > another 6-month span of pain. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 18:06:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp02.wcom.com (pmesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.20.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OM6oP29574 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.144]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #42257) with ESMTP id <0GLQ00CARDF5AI@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:06:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp04.wcomnet.com by dgismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GLQ00401DE16P@XXXXXX>; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:06:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by dgismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with ESMTP id <0GLQ001CZDDQQJ@XXXXXX>; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:05:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:05:46 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Where to get maps To: hcaldwell Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3BD73B3A.BADD38B7@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: hcaldwell wrote: > > Could someone recommend a good place to get maps? > I'm looking for a large (wall sized) map of Central and > South America. > > Thanks, > Hugh Does Rand McNally still have a store in Tysons Corner? It was there a couple of years ago. Maps, they've got maps. :) Hork -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 18:48:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9OMm6P00434 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-18.patriot.net [209.249.180.18]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9OMm1108363; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:48:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD743A4.BB2AC53D@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:41:40 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Trey Herb CC: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! References: <20011024170600.10980.qmail@web11001.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trey Herb wrote: > short story > > They sent a seat that did not fit the bike it took two > months, many phone calls, and threats to get the money > back. I think they assumed I would go away eventually. `nother short story - y`all must be ordering via mail. I bought my Corbin from R&R in Springfield VA - cart it outside to make sure it's the right (?) seat - pay the man - minus a hefty cash discount for supporting my local M/C dealer. Bill - happy butt! From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 18:54:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11504.mail.yahoo.com (web11504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9OMsTP00553 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 18:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011024225428.80941.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.52.58.4] by web11504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:54:28 PDT Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 15:54:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! To: "William J. Huson" , Trey Herb Cc: Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3BD743A4.BB2AC53D@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A discount from a local dealer??? I've never seen such a thing! Glenn --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > `nother short story - y`all must be ordering via > mail. I bought my > Corbin from R&R in Springfield VA - cart it outside > to make sure it's > the right (?) seat - pay the man - minus a hefty > cash discount for > supporting my local M/C dealer. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 19:15:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9ONFZP00950 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-18.patriot.net [209.249.180.18]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9ONFS114088; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:15:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD74A13.B89C0C@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:09:08 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glenn Dysart CC: Trey Herb , Sean Jordan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! References: <20011024225428.80941.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Ron" at R&R and "Mike" at Springfield cycle use to give me discounts, but recently I've lost those connections - dernitt... Bill Glenn Dysart wrote: > A discount from a local dealer??? I've never seen > such a thing! > > Glenn > > --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > > `nother short story - y`all must be ordering via > > mail. I bought my > > Corbin from R&R in Springfield VA - cart it outside > > to make sure it's > > the right (?) seat - pay the man - minus a hefty > > cash discount for > > supporting my local M/C dealer. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 19:59:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-oe38.hotmail.com [216.32.180.35]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9ONxpP01639 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:59:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 16:48:43 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [63.21.243.253] From: "Ken" To: Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 19:48:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C15CC4.D2703940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2001 23:48:43.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[69FB39B0:01C15CE6] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C15CC4.D2703940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen, I had a C5-C6-C7 cervical diskotomy and disk fusion in July of 2000, = following a series of accidents. I dealt with the pain, but during a = work op, I lost all feeling in both arms and hands and had paralysis in = the left arm and hand. The surgery was easy in one day and out the = next. they were going to keep me a third but I would not sit still. = The paralysis was corrected, and 80% of the numbness. I did lose some = mobility in the neck as would be expected, the bone graft came from my = right hip. I also had the choice of using a bone donor, but that = freaked me out. Yuck..;) Anyway, there is still pain, and the = spasticity in the shoulders and upper back, but it was a hell of a lot = better than before. Not as good as pre-injury, but live-able. I find a = TENS unit to be the most helpful with the spasticity. Anyway, now that = I bored the list, feel free to email me, and I'll answer any questions I = can. Oh and bike related, all though the Neurosurgeon who performed the = surgery disapproves, I was back riding about 10 weeks after the surgery. = ;) Fortunately my physiatrist was agreeable, using it as a physical = therapy and rehab goal. =20 Ken Shephard HDKnight@XXXXXX Ride Safe! Inwood WV ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C15CC4.D2703940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stephen,
 
 I had a C5-C6-C7 cervical = diskotomy  and=20 disk fusion in July of 2000, following a series of accidents.  I = dealt with=20 the pain, but during a work op, I lost all feeling in both arms and = hands and=20 had paralysis in the left arm and hand.  The surgery was easy in = one day=20 and out the next.  they were going to keep me a third but I would = not sit=20 still.  The paralysis was corrected, and 80% of the numbness.  = I did=20 lose some mobility in the neck  as would be expected, the bone = graft came=20 from my right hip.  I also had the choice of using a bone donor, = but that=20 freaked me out.  Yuck..;)  Anyway, there is still pain, and = the=20 spasticity in the shoulders and upper back, but it was a hell of a lot = better=20 than before.  Not as good as pre-injury, but live-able.  I = find a TENS=20 unit to be the most helpful with the spasticity.  Anyway, now that = I bored=20 the list, feel free to email me, and I'll answer any questions I = can.  Oh=20 and bike related, all though the Neurosurgeon who performed the = surgery=20 disapproves, I was back riding about 10 weeks after the surgery.  = ;) =20 Fortunately my physiatrist was agreeable, using it as a physical therapy = and=20 rehab goal. 
 
 
Ken Shephard
HDKnight@XXXXXX
Ride=20 Safe!
Inwood WV
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C15CC4.D2703940-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 20:30:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9P0UWP02135 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:30:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from washdc3-ar2-184-211.washdc3.dsl.gtei.net ([4.3.184.211] helo=pltrgyst.xhost.org) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15wYPm-0006aQ-00; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:30:30 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011024202900.00aae270@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:30:13 -0400 To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Update: Re: Warning! masquerade site In-Reply-To: <20011024163816.52910.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 12:38 PM 10/24/01, matthew patton wrote: > (But I >have to wonder about the security of transport between >web server and his email box which is how he gets >orders...anyone see the problem?) Easily encrypted from either a pop or imap server running on the http box -- what's the problem? -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 20:50:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9P0oJP02445 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from washdc3-ar2-136-104.elnk.dsl.gtei.net ([4.43.136.104] helo=pltrgyst.xhost.org) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15wYiv-0005HO-00; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:50:17 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011024203356.00aad780@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:50:14 -0400 To: stephen cutchins , CBR List , DC Cycles From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Disc replacement surgery question In-Reply-To: <20011024172702.15909.qmail@web13304.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Stephen, A little background: my dad had two such surgeries, one up high as you describe, and one very low in the back. These were full removal and fusion -- I'll never forget his pain, and the bowed hospital bed side rails. I myself have been living with a herniated disk (the lowest in the back, forgot the number) for about 15 years. Was told then that my athletic days were over -- free throw shooting only, no biking, no tennis. I just turned 55, still playing football, volleyball, basketball, tennis -- just sensibly, not going hard two days in a row. Eat lots of ibuprofen, three or four times a year consume my share of muscle relaxers (flexeril). Three years ago, my fiancee and I were out walking around Boulder, CO with her 80-year old mom when her mom fell down five steps in an art gallery, did a full-face plant, and fractures her C1/C2 (the famous hangman's fracture). She wore a halo for a couple months, and finally had to have a screw put in place. She's 84 and doing fine still. My observations: surgical procedures have advanced tremendously in the past twenty years. The single most important factor is getting a surgeon in a top orthopedic hospital who deals with such injuries and performs these surgeries all the time. (Denver was perfect for that, with all the skiing injuries.) Assuming you can find someone like that -- possibly a surgeon who has dealt with injuries to pro athletes -- my advice would be to have the surgery with confidence and live a normal life thereafter. Get second (maybe third) opinion, get a top doc. Best of luck -- Larry At 01:27 PM 10/24/01, stephen cutchins wrote: >As some of you may recall, about a year and a half ago >I crashed my RSV Mille at Summit Point. In the >process I herniated my C5/C6 disc. Six months of >pain, pills and acupuncture followed. The pain went >away, but the doctor said that I would eventually have >to get the disc removed. Well, I have a bad feeling >that the time has come. My neck is starting to hurt >and knot up and I am having difficulty moving my head >to the right. > >The doctor said that they go in by my throat, go >around to the spine, remove the disc, and slap in some >JB Weld or something like that. Yummy. He said that >the surgery is "fairly serious" (gee, imagine that) in >that a mistake could paralyze you from that point >down. That would be full paralysis, thankyouverymuch. > I'm sure he was just giving me a worst-case but it >still made me a little nervous. > >My question is, has anyone out there had this surgery >done? What can I expect? Should I run from the >doctor screaming and yelling, or should I go ahead and >get the surgery? I am definitely not thrilled with >letting a guy put a knife anywhere NEAR by spinal >column, but then again I don't want to put up with >another 6-month span of pain. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. >http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 20:58:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9P0wIP02522 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:58:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from washdc3-ar2-136-104.elnk.dsl.gtei.net ([4.43.136.104] helo=pltrgyst.xhost.org) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15wYpj-00059e-00; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:57:20 -0700 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011024205355.00aa06a0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 20:57:17 -0400 To: Dale Horstman , hcaldwell From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Where to get maps Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3BD73B3A.BADD38B7@home.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 06:05 PM 10/24/01, Dale Horstman wrote: >hcaldwell wrote: > > > > Could someone recommend a good place to get maps? > > I'm looking for a large (wall sized) map of Central and > > South America. > > > > Thanks, > > Hugh > >Does Rand McNally still have a store in Tysons Corner? >It was there a couple of years ago. Maps, they've got maps. :) Yeah, but most of their maps suck. I was there this past Sunday. Try The Map Store, on Eye Street (the south border of Farragut Square) in the district, right next to the Farragut Metro stop. Best map store I've ever been in, and I'm a map freak. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 22:18:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9P2IEP03681 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUJVTan99hAO6s3iF3QoS38Q=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GJKHFRJ9; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:17:54 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:10:23 -0400 Subject: Corbin Experience Message-ID: <20011024.221314.-704109.8.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-5,7,9,11 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Frustrating to deal with, but make some nice saddles. I have a pair of boots that has held up extremely well, although I have been told that they use a different supplier/manufacturer now. I would explore the Sargent saddle company's offerings. Tom Fitzpatrick CCS#80'6 (www.celticracing.com) Sponsors: *Fast Lane Cycles - fastlanecycles@XXXXXX (703)818-8890 (www.fastlanecycles.com)* *Barnacle Bill's Racing Leathers - barnacle@XXXXXX (www.racingleather.com)* *Nuts and Bolts Racing Racer Web Sites - rchapin@XXXXXX (www.nbracesites.com)* *Janet Bell TAX Preparation, Accounting and Consulting (belljan@XXXXXX)* From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 22:18:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9P2IMP03683 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUJVTan99hAO6cnmkcYBg+tw=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GJKHFRK3; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:17:54 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:13:14 -0400 Subject: Surgery Message-ID: <20011024.221314.-704109.9.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-9,11,13,15 From: Tom Fitzpatrick I herniated my C-7 in a car accident. Classic case, numbness down the arm to the fingers, burning sensation, etc. Had the option of getting it fused (Kaiser offered this through Georgetown, no less). Opted to wait and see. Now it only bothers me occasionally. Of course, my physical activity is much less, too. If I were to actually lift weights again, other than 12 ounces at a time, I don't know what would happen. Get the best medical advice you can. Tom Fitzpatrick CCS#80'6 (www.celticracing.com) Sponsors: *Fast Lane Cycles - fastlanecycles@XXXXXX (703)818-8890 (www.fastlanecycles.com)* *Barnacle Bill's Racing Leathers - barnacle@XXXXXX (www.racingleather.com)* *Nuts and Bolts Racing Racer Web Sites - rchapin@XXXXXX (www.nbracesites.com)* *Janet Bell TAX Preparation, Accounting and Consulting (belljan@XXXXXX)* From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 24 22:26:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9P2Q7P03799 for ; Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:26:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:25:26 -0400 Message-Id: <200110242225.AA1008271416@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: OT: good CD-Extractor? X-Mailer: Just got an Archos 6000 Jukebox MP3 player - way cool! 100 minutes of music on a 6GB hard drive - and it'll fit in the palm of your hand. Anyway, having a hard time finding a reasonable CD-Extractor/Ripper. Nothing fancy, just an ordinary, robust, name-brand program to pull the .cda files off the CD and convert them to .MP3 What are folks using? thanks, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 07:08:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9708.mail.yahoo.com (web9708.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.166]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9PB8QP11531 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:08:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011025110825.91071.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.42] by web9708.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 04:08:25 PDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 04:08:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Stranger than Fiction To: DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Let's say you're obsessed with motorcycles, and you already have bikes made out of every metal and most of the noble gases. What's left to do? http://www.erie.net/~mrpink/images/wickerbike.jpg My mom took this picture. I think it's in Boston. She sez, "You can see how big it is by the man walking past outside the window. It sure was an eyecatcher!" Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 07:48:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fastandwily.com (003.066.021.004.virginia.com [4.21.66.3] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PBmYP12157 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:46:34 -0400 Message-Id: <200110250746.AA841417044@fastandwily.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Scott Luttrell" Reply-To: To: DC.Cycle.mailing.list" " Subject: Re: Disc replacement surgery question X-Mailer: I'm facing the same type of surgery myself sooner or later on my c5-6-7 discs do to an air bag. Thanks to the pre-existing condition cluse with my insurance I have to wait awhile longer. The surgen I spoke with a couple years ago mentioned disc fusen not replacment or removal, he also gave me the same "worse case" which also made me very nervous. I've been dealing with this problem for 5 years now and eat ibuprofen like most people eat cereal (Ibuprofen O's) I plan of having surgery asap but everyone I've asked says the pain is still there in most cases. Let me know how it turns out for you. Scott Luttrell Fast & Wily Racing www.fastandwily.com ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: stephen cutchins Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:27:02 -0700 (PDT) >As some of you may recall, about a year and a half ago >I crashed my RSV Mille at Summit Point. In the >process I herniated my C5/C6 disc. Six months of >pain, pills and acupuncture followed. The pain went >away, but the doctor said that I would eventually have >to get the disc removed. Well, I have a bad feeling >that the time has come. My neck is starting to hurt >and knot up and I am having difficulty moving my head >to the right. > >The doctor said that they go in by my throat, go >around to the spine, remove the disc, and slap in some >JB Weld or something like that. Yummy. He said that >the surgery is "fairly serious" (gee, imagine that) in >that a mistake could paralyze you from that point >down. That would be full paralysis, thankyouverymuch. > I'm sure he was just giving me a worst-case but it >still made me a little nervous. > >My question is, has anyone out there had this surgery >done? What can I expect? Should I run from the >doctor screaming and yelling, or should I go ahead and >get the surgery? I am definitely not thrilled with >letting a guy put a knife anywhere NEAR by spinal >column, but then again I don't want to put up with >another 6-month span of pain. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. >http://personals.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 07:54:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds1.osc.uscg.mil (cgds1.osc.uscg.mil [152.121.49.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PBs2P12245 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil by CGDS1.osc.uscg.mil with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:53:56 -0400 Received: by hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WHMFTWX>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:54:15 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'stephen_cutchins@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Post Op and recovery Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:53:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The good esquire is correct about the post op and recovery. I had a friend who after a year of recovery had a minor slider during a toys for tots run, and was killed instantly from the resulting trauma. In essence, a broken neck. Not to put a damper on your spirits.... but ortho surgery often helps alleviate some problems, but the result may be the same 70% range of motion (as an example) with less pain and a whole lot of therapy. In your case, because of the vertebrae being involved, don't fret too much. The technology and procedure is mature and shouldn't be a problem. Remember and it's important to remember that you will never regain that 100% you experienced prior to your condition. If anything is restored it would be an improvement to the quality of life that you are presently not enjoying. gb From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "stephen cutchins" , Subject: Re: Disc replacement surgery question Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 17:00:09 -0400 Organization: CF&O X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Numerous personal injury clients of mine have had this procedure. 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From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:00:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds1.osc.uscg.mil (cgds1.osc.uscg.mil [152.121.49.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PC01P12415 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex.comdt.uscg.mil by CGDS1.osc.uscg.mil with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:00:00 -0400 Received: by hqex.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4WHLQWDP>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:02:44 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Corbin Saddles Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:59:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OUCH!!! I've had two bikes with them and presently have another with one (I don't buy them, the bikes come equipped that way). They're just not that comfortable to me. After about 200 miles I can't sit any longer and have to take an extended stop. I also have a couple of riding buddies that have expressed similar opinions. Any one have any experience with other after market pads or skins or whatever to help? gb From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:08:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PC8WP12516 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:08:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA06736 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.149]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA25380 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj33046b ([24.13.248.105]) by femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011025120816.ROFK17681.femail24.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj33046b>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:08:16 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c15d4d$cdca3290$69f80d18@cj33046b> Reply-To: "Richard L. Casale" From: "Richard L. Casale" To: "VFR List" Cc: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Either Clogged Fueld Injectors or Fuel Filer ??? Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:08:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Recently, like an moron, I ran my 2000 Honda VFR800 out of gas twice in one night (long story). Ever since she is no where near as responsive and every once in a while the FI sputters and spurts. What I'm thinking is a) something from the bottom of the gas tank has partially clogged the fuel filter or line, or b) the same gung in the bottom of the gas tank has clogged up the fuel injectors. Not really having any clue (I can admit that) I'm curious if a) I can inspect the gas line and filter myself and b) if I can run some injector cleaner through my system that is safe for motorcycles. I don't have access to a shop manual and I don't want to spend the $$$ right now to have a dealer check it out--unless I have to. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!! From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:11:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9607.mail.yahoo.com (web9607.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.186]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9PCBCP12529 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011025121111.13698.qmail@web9607.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9607.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:11:11 PDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Disc replacement surgery question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <200110250746.AA841417044@fastandwily.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just wanted to say good luck to all of you having this type of surgery. It cannot be anything you look forward to, but I'm sure the trade off of not being in constant pain is worth the pain and recovery of the surgery. Good luck! Positive vibes your way for a safe & successful recovery! :-) Update us after it's over. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 (riding Tom's 750 now though) http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Scott Luttrell wrote: > I'm facing the same type of surgery myself sooner or > later on my c5-6-7 discs do to an air bag. Thanks to > the pre-existing condition cluse with my insurance I > have to wait awhile longer. The surgen I spoke with > a couple years ago mentioned disc fusen not > replacment or removal, he also gave me the same > "worse case" which also made me very nervous. I've > been dealing with this problem for 5 years now and > eat ibuprofen like most people eat cereal (Ibuprofen > O's) I plan of having surgery asap but everyone I've > asked says the pain is still there in most cases. > Let me know how it turns out for you. > > Scott Luttrell > Fast & Wily Racing > www.fastandwily.com > > > ---------- Original Message > ---------------------------------- > From: stephen cutchins > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:27:02 -0700 (PDT) > > >As some of you may recall, about a year and a half > ago > >I crashed my RSV Mille at Summit Point. In the > >process I herniated my C5/C6 disc. Six months of > >pain, pills and acupuncture followed. The pain > went > >away, but the doctor said that I would eventually > have > >to get the disc removed. Well, I have a bad > feeling > >that the time has come. My neck is starting to > hurt > >and knot up and I am having difficulty moving my > head > >to the right. > > > >The doctor said that they go in by my throat, go > >around to the spine, remove the disc, and slap in > some > >JB Weld or something like that. Yummy. He said > that > >the surgery is "fairly serious" (gee, imagine that) > in > >that a mistake could paralyze you from that point > >down. That would be full paralysis, > thankyouverymuch. > > I'm sure he was just giving me a worst-case but it > >still made me a little nervous. > > > >My question is, has anyone out there had this > surgery > >done? What can I expect? Should I run from the > >doctor screaming and yelling, or should I go ahead > and > >get the surgery? I am definitely not thrilled with > >letting a guy put a knife anywhere NEAR by spinal > >column, but then again I don't want to put up with > >another 6-month span of pain. > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > >http://personals.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:12:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9605.mail.yahoo.com (web9605.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.184]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9PCC6P12594 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011025121205.19138.qmail@web9605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9605.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:12:05 PDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:12:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: Stranger than Fiction To: Scratch , DCC In-Reply-To: <20011025110825.91071.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I guess knitting one would be next? ;-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 (riding Tom's 750 now) http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- Scratch wrote: > Let's say you're obsessed with motorcycles, and you > already have bikes made out of every metal and most > of > the noble gases. What's left to do? > > http://www.erie.net/~mrpink/images/wickerbike.jpg > > My mom took this picture. I think it's in Boston. > She > sez, "You can see how big it is by the man walking > past outside the window. It sure was an eyecatcher!" > > Rich > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ----VE4LQZG967GP6VOPAFG1AZ0XEB0HE3WL-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:22:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hermal005i0.teligent.com (hermal005i0.teligent.net [64.64.159.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PCMXP12828 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermal004i0.teligent.net (hermal004i0.teligent.net [10.0.37.2]) by hermal005i0.teligent.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26035 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hermal004i0.teligent.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4HXRBNK7>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:20:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Wimer, Peter" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Winter Prep for a bike Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:20:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This will be the first winter with my Bike and while I plan to continue riding as much as weather allows throughout the winter, is there anything I should do to prepare the bike for the colder weather? Thanks Pete Wimer '00 Suzuki Savage '95 Jeep YJ peter.wimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:25:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14609.mail.yahoo.com (web14609.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.241]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9PCPFP12850 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011025122514.98446.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [129.42.208.144] by web14609.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:25:14 PDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:25:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Knapik Subject: Re: Corbin Saddles To: "Bruhl, George LT" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just put a Mustang Extra wide Regal Duke on my Nightrain. Did a 6 hour ride Saturday with no pain. --- "Bruhl, George LT" wrote: > OUCH!!! After about 200 miles I can't > sit any longer and have > to take an extended stop. > Any one have any experience with other after market > pads or skins or > whatever to help? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:33:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PCXAP13001 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-177.patriot.net [209.249.180.177]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9PCX7125456; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:33:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD80507.CE684518@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:26:47 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Wimer, Peter" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Winter Prep for a bike References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, add fuel stabilizer to the gas. Bill Wimer, Peter wrote: > This will be the first winter with my Bike and while I plan to continue > riding as much as weather allows throughout the winter, is there anything I > should do to prepare the bike for the colder weather? > Thanks > > Pete Wimer > '00 Suzuki Savage > '95 Jeep YJ > peter.wimer@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:34:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ddlexchange.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PCYdP13011 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jstrang ([204.245.128.170]) by ddlexchange.ddlomni.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:23:46 -0400 From: "Jon Strang" To: "Sean Jordan" , Subject: RE: Another bike that would be cool to have.... Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:33:05 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2001 12:23:46.0421 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4B8F250:01C15D4F] Ah, but I want one with the CR450R motor. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Jordan [mailto:eternity23@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:00 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; mike@XXXXXX > Subject: Another bike that would be cool to have.... > > > http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/detail?sectionID=50677&documentID=97032 > > > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:47:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from spaw1.hq.af.mil (spaw1.hq.af.mil [134.205.190.73]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PClIP13240 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:47:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cais.com (wlafpca-oax108.comm.hq.af.mil [134.205.80.60]) by spaw1.hq.af.mil (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA48762; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:47:37 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD809D5.17811988@cais.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:47:17 -0400 From: Jim Shoemaker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "William J. Huson" CC: "Wimer, Peter" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Winter Prep for a bike References: <3BD80507.CE684518@patriot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought that was only if you were *not* going to ride through the winter. I averaged a ride about once every 2 weeks throughout the winter while the roads were clear. The only thing I did was put the bike on a Battery Tender and buy electric socks, gloves, and jacket liner (Gerbing) for me. --Jim -- '00 Duc M750 "William J. Huson" wrote: > Yes, add fuel stabilizer to the gas. > > Bill > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:47:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13002.mail.yahoo.com (web13002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.12]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9PCloP13243 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011025124749.81118.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.26.132.101] by web13002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:47:49 PDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 05:47:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Stranger than Fiction To: DCC In-Reply-To: <20011025110825.91071.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Scratch wrote: > Let's say you're obsessed with motorcycles, Not a stretch of the imagination here. > you already have bikes made out of every metal and > most of the noble gases. What's left to do? I was bored one day and was looking around on Ebay. Tried throwing in some random words of interest, and I found this: http://www.judaicaforkids.com/images/menorah/Motorcycle_Menorah.JPG Something new for Hanukkah! (For those not familiar, during the Jewish holiday of Hanukkah, we light candles during the 8 days, and the candles are held by the menorah) I won the bid on ebay (cheaper than the place above is offering the menorah for) and it looks even better in person. Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 08:57:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PCvJP13421 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-177.patriot.net [209.249.180.177]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9PCvG130352; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:57:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD80AB0.1AC280D1@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:50:56 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Shoemaker CC: "Wimer, Peter" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Winter Prep for a bike References: <3BD80507.CE684518@patriot.net> <3BD809D5.17811988@cais.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gas stab is a good precaution just in case we get one of our long frosty spells. I can recall a couple months of nothing but snow and ice down here in the sunny south (?). I have a battery tender, use it off and on all year. Bill Jim Shoemaker wrote: > I thought that was only if you were *not* going to ride through the winter. I > averaged a ride about once every 2 weeks throughout the winter while the roads > were clear. The only thing I did was put the bike on a Battery Tender and buy > electric socks, gloves, and jacket liner (Gerbing) for me. > > --Jim > -- '00 Duc M750 > > "William J. Huson" wrote: > > > Yes, add fuel stabilizer to the gas. > > > > Bill > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 09:02:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PD2jP13505 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:02:03 -0400 Message-Id: <200110250902.AA1526333494@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , "Wimer, Peter" Subject: Re: Winter Prep for a bike X-Mailer: Check that the oil is the recommended viscosity for the temperatures. Wash & wax the bike (wax to protect it). Check connections for electric vest, etc. Put on big windshield. Check battery connections & electrolyte level (if applicable). Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Wimer, Peter" Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:20:51 -0400 >This will be the first winter with my Bike and while I plan to continue >riding as much as weather allows throughout the winter, is there anything I >should do to prepare the bike for the colder weather? >Thanks > >Pete Wimer >'00 Suzuki Savage >'95 Jeep YJ >peter.wimer@XXXXXX > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 09:15:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PDFcP13754 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:14:57 -0400 Message-Id: <200110250914.AA1068761144@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: 100 hr. of music, not 100 min. X-Mailer: Oops. In case anyone was wondering why having only 100 min. of music was great, I wrote that wrong. The Archos 6000 MP3 Jukebox holds 100 HOURS of music. (6 GB disk, 1 min. of music per 1 MB of storage at 128 Kbps MP3). Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 09:19:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PDJ6P13765 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4KXHLGL7>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:15:29 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF538@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:15:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Everyone- I'm hoping someone can help a friend of mine out. In DC, to avoid parking getting tickets you have to get a neighborhood sticker; otherwise they will hit you about every day if your parking lady is evil. For a motorcycle, they give you the same type sticker that goes on a car--- sticky side on the same side as the printing--- and want you to mount it on the windscreen. Which works fine if you have a windscreen. If you don't, well, that's where the question comes from! Say you want to put it on the forks like they recommend--- you end up with the sticky and the printing both facing in, and you can't read the sticker, so you still get tickets. (This is only slightly more amusing as DC giving me a rash of greif for only returning one tag from a motorcycle) So any suggestions? I have always had off-street parking for my bike so I don't know how to work this. It's for a friend of mine who is up to I believe $200 in parking tickets since getting the bike in September. Thanks! patti From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 09:29:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from itxf2aln09.vfc.com (itxf2aln09.vfc.com [167.64.48.46]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PDTmP13959 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers To: lantech@XXXXXX Cc: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: Kevin_Hawkins@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:25:04 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on ITXF2ALN09/InternetMail(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 10/25/2001 09:29:39 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Apply the sticky side of the sticker to the sticky side of some clear shipping tape so that it shows through. Then simply cut the shipping tape to the appropriate size and apply sticky side down. The sticker will be showing through the shipping tape. VIOLA! :^) Kevin Hawkins kevin_hawkins@XXXXXX http://www.freecfm.com/r/raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 //'93 Yamaha GTS1000 //'85 FZ750 Hi Everyone- I'm hoping someone can help a friend of mine out. In DC, to avoid parking getting tickets you have to get a neighborhood sticker; otherwise they will hit you about every day if your parking lady is evil. For a motorcycle, they give you the same type sticker that goes on a car--- sticky side on the same side as the printing--- and want you to mount it on the windscreen. Which works fine if you have a windscreen. If you don't, well, that's where the question comes from! Say you want to put it on the forks like they recommend--- you end up with the sticky and the printing both facing in, and you can't read the sticker, so you still get tickets. (This is only slightly more amusing as DC giving me a rash of greif for only returning one tag from a motorcycle) So any suggestions? I have always had off-street parking for my bike so I don't know how to work this. It's for a friend of mine who is up to I believe $200 in parking tickets since getting the bike in September. Thanks! patti From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 09:31:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11101.mail.yahoo.com (web11101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.148]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9PDVhP14049 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:31:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011025133142.69781.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 06:31:42 PDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 06:31:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Corbin Saddles To: "Bruhl, George LT" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a Sargent "World Sport" full replacement seat for my VTR. It made a HUGE difference over the stock seat. It's flatter and wider where it meets the tank and it's firmer than stock. The stock seat kept pushing me into the tank - the Sargent doesn't do this. It's good for approximately 400 miles or more (depending on type of ride) before I get a sore bum. The quality of the seat and the customer service from Sargent were top notch. I can't recommend them highly enough. They are also somewhat cheaper than Corbin. Chris Weaver --- "Bruhl, George LT" wrote: [snip] > Any one have any experience with other after market > pads or skins or > whatever to help? > > gb > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 09:48:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PDmrP14283 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:48:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-122-216-4.s512.apx1k.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.216.4] helo=palladio1) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15wksN-0003dt-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:48:52 -0400 Message-ID: <00fe01c15d5c$1ba5a720$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "lantech" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF538@CWDEXCH0> Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:50:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Here's what I do. Get a piece of acetate (those clear report covers will do) at an office supply place, mount the sticker on the acetate and then secure it to the fork with clear packaging tape. If that doesn't work, (inverted forks, for example) buy a small piece of Plexiglas and mount it on the bike somewhere. On my Nighthawk I had a piece of Plexiglas that hung down below the license plate. The VFR uses the fork method. Both seem to keep the parking drones at bay. Or, how 'bout a cover? I've had covered bikes parked for days on the street (our neighborhood has residential zone parking) and the parking drones never bothered my bike even though a sticker wasn't visible. Your friend must be in an area where they're falling behind in their monthly ticket quota. ;) Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: lantech > Hi Everyone- > > I'm hoping someone can help a friend of mine out. > > In DC, to avoid parking getting tickets you have to get a neighborhood > sticker; otherwise they will hit you about every day if your parking lady is > evil. For a motorcycle, they give you the same type sticker that goes on a > car--- sticky side on the same side as the printing--- and want you to mount > it on the windscreen. ..... From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 09:51:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PDpLP14362 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA06746 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:45:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:45:18 -0400 (EDT) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! In-Reply-To: <3BD743A4.BB2AC53D@patriot.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, William J. Huson wrote: > `nother short story - y`all must be ordering via mail. I bought my > Corbin from R&R in Springfield VA - cart it outside to make sure it's > the right (?) seat - pay the man - minus a hefty cash discount for > supporting my local M/C dealer. > I bought my Corbin at Mid-Ohio and got to put it on the bike and go for a test ride so I knew it fit and am very happy with it. Corbin saddles are great but according to the VFR list there customer service is absolutely horrible. Hugh From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 09:54:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PDsXP14380 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (kirk@localhost) by beta.nova.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9PDsWo23695 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:54:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from kirk@XXXXXX) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:54:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy To: dc-cycles list Subject: Parking at Humphrey Building, SW DC In-Reply-To: <00fe01c15d5c$1ba5a720$bb82fea9@palladio1> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know if sidewalk parking still available at the Humphrey Building? I'm wondering if it's been shutdown since Sept 11... I've got to head down that way today. Thanks! Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 10:08:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PE8lP14608 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:08:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-177.patriot.net [209.249.180.177]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9PE88116030; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:08:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD81B4B.BB094288@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:01:47 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hcaldwell CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hcaldwell wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, William J. Huson wrote: > > > `nother short story - y`all must be ordering via mail. I bought my > > Corbin from R&R in Springfield VA - cart it outside to make sure it's > > the right (?) seat - pay the man - minus a hefty cash discount for > > supporting my local M/C dealer. > > > > I bought my Corbin at Mid-Ohio and got to put > it on the bike and go for a test ride so I knew it fit > and am very happy with it. Corbin saddles are great but > according to the VFR list there customer service is > absolutely horrible. Don't know about customer service, but I do have one Corbin gripe. The damn thang was supposed to fit my particular bike, an H-D FLHS. The grab rail interfered. Call Corbin - well, yes, but we have a grab rail that fits with our seat! $169. Like f**k-a-you. I took the grab rail off and *tweaked* it in the vise to make the seat fit. My butt luvs the Corbin. Milady sez the pillion feels hard, which causes me to scratch my head in wonder. I have a skinny butt, take them no-ass-at-all pills, and the dense foam feels just right to me. Whereas Milady has a nice, cushy, well padded butt, why would she need a soft foam seat? Female mystery # 5,286,597. Bill From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 10:15:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PEF8P14753 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.38]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GLR0054CM7TAV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:14:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GLR00101M7FFZ@XXXXXX>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:14:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GLR0009UM7B1N@XXXXXX>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:13:59 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:13:54 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Stranger than Fiction To: Scratch Cc: DCC Message-id: <3BD81E22.29E88397@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20011025110825.91071.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> Scratch wrote: > http://www.erie.net/~mrpink/images/wickerbike.jpg Springer forks - bet it handles like crap. I wonder if it's a shaft drive? :) Hork -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 10:36:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from laundry.annapurna.com (rob-0.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.145.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PEaFP15044 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from woc-rwintersw2k.annapurna.com ([131.182.119.81]) by laundry.annapurna.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9PEa6c25992 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:36:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rob@XXXXXX) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011025102749.033670d0@mail.annapurna.com> X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:36:18 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers In-Reply-To: <00fe01c15d5c$1ba5a720$bb82fea9@palladio1> References: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF538@CWDEXCH0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed A slightly more involved solution: Move to Northern Virginia! :-) It solves all those parking zone problems, unresponsive DMV problems, vehicle inspection problems, emissions problems, reduces the crime problem, lowers taxes, improves government services, gets you representation in Congress, and many other fine benefits. Oh, and the sticky stuff is *on the correct side* of Virginia motorcycle stickers! Food for thought. Don't answer right away. Take your time with it. Let it sink in. ;-) /// Rob P.S. joking P.P.S. mostly From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 10:47:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PElYP15224 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.38]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GLR00FDPNNHHS@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:45:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GLR00J01NMWRC@XXXXXX>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:45:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GLR00HELNM4M9@XXXXXX>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:44:28 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:44:23 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers To: Rob Winters Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3BD82547.4BE7BBAA@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF538@CWDEXCH0> <4.3.2.7.2.20011025102749.033670d0@XXXXXX> Rob Winters wrote: > > Oh, and the sticky stuff is *on the correct side* of Virginia motorcycle > stickers! For what it's worth, my VA sticker lasted about a week before most of it fell off the fork tube. Screw it, I've got the receipt on the bike, I figure it is not my problem. :) -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 10:48:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com [24.37.122.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PEm5P15227 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:48:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (prometheus.brauhausdc.org [192.168.64.1]) by gillian.brauhausdc.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f9PElx926082 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:47:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:47:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: List-dc cycles Subject: Re: 100 hr. of music, not 100 min. In-Reply-To: <200110250914.AA1068761144@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Chris Norloff wrote: > The Archos 6000 MP3 Jukebox holds 100 HOURS of music. (6 GB disk, 1 min. >of music per 1 MB of storage at 128 Kbps MP3). Just bought one of these and, so far, I really love it. Apple just came out with an "iPod" which is similar, but has firewire, etc. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 10:54:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PEssP15329 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH8FW4>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:53:50 -0400 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: living in DC Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:53:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was thinking about doing the opposite. Would like to move from northern VA into DC. How bad are insurance rates in the city? Is theft a problem? I'm riding a '94 Seca II, so insurance is pretty low, I live in a townhouse, not an apartment, it's older and considered a "standard". I also get a multiple vehicle discount now and if I were to move I might try to ditch the car, so I wouldn't get that. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Winters [mailto:rob@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:36 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers A slightly more involved solution: Move to Northern Virginia! :-) It solves all those parking zone problems, unresponsive DMV problems, vehicle inspection problems, emissions problems, reduces the crime problem, lowers taxes, improves government services, gets you representation in Congress, and many other fine benefits. Oh, and the sticky stuff is *on the correct side* of Virginia motorcycle stickers! Food for thought. Don't answer right away. Take your time with it. Let it sink in. ;-) /// Rob P.S. joking P.P.S. mostly From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 10:56:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PEuIP15344 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH8FWW>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:55:15 -0400 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: crazy VA tax stickers Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:55:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Has anyone figured out how to get the vertical sides of the VA tax sticker to stay down? -----Original Message----- From: Dale Horstman [mailto:the.horkster@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:44 AM To: Rob Winters Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers Rob Winters wrote: > > Oh, and the sticky stuff is *on the correct side* of Virginia motorcycle > stickers! For what it's worth, my VA sticker lasted about a week before most of it fell off the fork tube. Screw it, I've got the receipt on the bike, I figure it is not my problem. :) -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 11:09:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PF9CP15614 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-43-130.s384.tnt2.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.43.130] helo=palladio1) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15wm86-0002TW-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:09:10 -0400 Message-ID: <01d701c15d67$5427e580$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: , "Rob Winters" References: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF538@CWDEXCH0> <4.3.2.7.2.20011025102749.033670d0@mail.annapurna.com> Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:11:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Lessee: State government held hostage by downstate troglodyte politicians that don't give a crap about urban traffic congestion or transit, Rep. Jim Moron (er, Moran), car tax (YRMV: your rebates may vary when the economy slumps), yearly vehicle inspection.... Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org P.S. Just kidding.... mostly. ;) DC doesn't test MCs for emissions, BTW. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Winters To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:36 AM Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers > A slightly more involved solution: Move to Northern Virginia! > :-) > > It solves all those parking zone problems, unresponsive DMV problems, > vehicle inspection problems, emissions problems, reduces the crime problem, > lowers taxes, improves government services, gets you representation in > Congress, and many other fine benefits. > > Oh, and the sticky stuff is *on the correct side* of Virginia motorcycle > stickers! > > Food for thought. Don't answer right away. Take your time with it. Let it > sink in. ;-) > > /// Rob > > P.S. joking > > P.P.S. mostly > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 11:09:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f119.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.119]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PF9EP15616 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 07:57:50 -0700 Received: from 151.200.109.76 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:57:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.200.109.76] From: "Todd Peer" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Disc replacement surgery question Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:57:50 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2001 14:57:50.0513 (UTC) FILETIME=[6AA17210:01C15D65] Second and third opinions from other doctors. Good luck. Todd ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:27:02 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Disc replacement surgery question To: CBR List , DC Cycles As some of you may recall, about a year and a half ago I crashed my RSV Mille at Summit Point. In the process I herniated my C5/C6 disc. Six months of pain, pills and acupuncture followed. The pain went away, but the doctor said that I would eventually have to get the disc removed. Well, I have a bad feeling that the time has come. My neck is starting to hurt and knot up and I am having difficulty moving my head to the right. The doctor said that they go in by my throat, go around to the spine, remove the disc, and slap in some JB Weld or something like that. Yummy. He said that the surgery is "fairly serious" (gee, imagine that) in that a mistake could paralyze you from that point down. That would be full paralysis, thankyouverymuch. I'm sure he was just giving me a worst-case but it still made me a little nervous. My question is, has anyone out there had this surgery done? What can I expect? Should I run from the doctor screaming and yelling, or should I go ahead and get the surgery? I am definitely not thrilled with letting a guy put a knife anywhere NEAR by spinal column, but then again I don't want to put up with another 6-month span of pain. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 11:11:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from spaw1.hq.af.mil (spaw1.hq.af.mil [134.205.190.73]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PFBvP15636 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cais.com (wlafpca-oax108.comm.hq.af.mil [134.205.80.60]) by spaw1.hq.af.mil (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA53864 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:12:22 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD82BC2.4D9DDF0A@cais.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:12:02 -0400 From: Jim Shoemaker X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: crazy VA tax stickers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mount it to a flat surface? :-) I ended up wrapping a couple of pieces of electrical tape around it last year, making sure the serial# & year were still visible. Looked like crap, but it held the sticker on. This year I cleaned the fork tube with naphtha (the only good solvent I had handy) before putting the new sticker on. It's holding so far, but it's only been a couple of weeks. --Jim RichH@XXXXXX wrote: > Has anyone figured out how to get the vertical sides of the VA tax sticker > to stay down? > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 11:23:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hermal005i0.teligent.com (hermal005i0.teligent.net [64.64.159.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PFNHP15880 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermal004i0.teligent.net (hermal004i0.teligent.net [10.0.37.2]) by hermal005i0.teligent.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07841; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hermal004i0.teligent.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4HXRBQ14>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:21:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Wimer, Peter" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'William J. Huson'" , Jim Shoemaker , "'cnorloff@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Winter Prep for a bike Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:21:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for all the info. Can I use the same gas stabilizer as you would for a car? Pete Wimer '01 Suzuki Savage '95 Jeep YJ peter.wimer@XXXXXX what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail? -----Original Message----- From: William J. Huson [mailto:bhuson@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:51 AM To: Jim Shoemaker Cc: Wimer, Peter; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: Re: Winter Prep for a bike Gas stab is a good precaution just in case we get one of our long frosty spells. I can recall a couple months of nothing but snow and ice down here in the sunny south (?). I have a battery tender, use it off and on all year. Bill Jim Shoemaker wrote: > I thought that was only if you were *not* going to ride through the winter. I > averaged a ride about once every 2 weeks throughout the winter while the roads > were clear. The only thing I did was put the bike on a Battery Tender and buy > electric socks, gloves, and jacket liner (Gerbing) for me. > > --Jim > -- '00 Duc M750 > > "William J. Huson" wrote: > > > Yes, add fuel stabilizer to the gas. > > > > Bill > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 11:31:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PFVFP16041 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4KXHLGN2>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:27:39 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF53B@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'Rob Winters'" , "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:27:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Har har har! I'm sorry, but I am kind of addicted to my 12-minute commute through Rock Creek (it's very pretty too!) Like adding another 20 minutes each way, just to go over some silly bridge, would be fun! As far as vehicle inspectons--- your car or bike has gotta be on fire before DC will fail it. With my '93 Blazer at 145,000 miles, this is truly in my favor! The DC bike inspection is even more of a joke--- do the signals work? Then you win! I figure the best way I can improve DC Government services is to keep working here! And as far as the crime problem goes, well, I figure my two dogs (one is a doberman-rottweiler mix) are helping lower the crime rate, at least for my side of the street. Anyone crazy enough to break into my house can then contend with me and my Tazer... And let's not forget the $5000 first-time home buyer tax CREDIT (translation: free money!) and no property taxes for 5 years... Doesn't sound like a fair trade for the sticky sticker, does it?! (keep in mind, please, I'm laughing all the way through this email!) -patti -----Original Message----- From: Rob Winters [mailto:rob@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:36 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers A slightly more involved solution: Move to Northern Virginia! :-) It solves all those parking zone problems, unresponsive DMV problems, vehicle inspection problems, emissions problems, reduces the crime problem, lowers taxes, improves government services, gets you representation in Congress, and many other fine benefits. Oh, and the sticky stuff is *on the correct side* of Virginia motorcycle stickers! Food for thought. Don't answer right away. Take your time with it. Let it sink in. ;-) /// Rob P.S. joking P.P.S. mostly From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 11:36:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com ([24.0.95.140]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PFaPP16137 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:36:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from attglobal.net ([24.10.231.79]) by femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011025153454.LTNQ7396.femail13.sdc1.sfba.home.com@XXXXXX> for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 08:34:54 -0700 Message-ID: <3BD832AA.F13C5904@attglobal.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:41:30 -0400 From: Shigeru Honda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [ja] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kudos to Corbin Saddles! References: <3BD81B4B.BB094288@patriot.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I ordered a seat online at Corbin, I got a email saying "You must register as a distributor before placing any order" I guess they thought I was a dealer looking at my last name.... -- __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Shigeru Honda shonda3@XXXXXX __/__/__/__/__/__/__/ Hawk GT Super Hawk Kawasaki '95 GPZ 1100 still on sale! From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 11:39:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PFdkP16147 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.cc.aab49d (4012) for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:39:35 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 11:39:35 EDT Subject: Re: Winter Prep for a bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc.aab49d.29098c37_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 --part1_cc.aab49d.29098c37_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit peter.wimer@XXXXXX writes: > Can I use the same gas stabilizer as you would for a car? > Yep. And it wouldn't hurt if you were going to leave it sit for a while to pull the sparkplug and spray some fogging oil in the cylinder to keep it from rusting. And change the oil before parking it for the winter. That gets rid of the corrosive acids in the old oil. HTH, Steve Broadstreet Who hopes to get some more riding in before winter! :) 01 ZX-9R --part1_cc.aab49d.29098c37_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit peter.wimer@XXXXXX writes:


Can I use the same gas stabilizer as you would for a car?

Yep. And it wouldn't hurt if you were going to leave it sit for a while to pull the sparkplug and spray some fogging oil in the cylinder to keep it from rusting. And change the oil before parking it for the winter. That gets rid of the corrosive acids in the old oil.
HTH,
Steve Broadstreet  Who hopes to get some more riding in before winter!  :)
01 ZX-9R    
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I live in an apartment building with an underground parking garage so, I couldn't tell you about the theft problem. Don't have my bike insured at my DC address but, when I checked into it five years ago, a 91 FZR600 ridden by a 25yo was gonna cost over $1000 a year. I currently pay a little over $350 a year for my R6. That's down from the $500 a year I was paying before I turned 30. I guess that's one good thing about getting old. LOL You can probably get a quote online just to see. Scooter In a message dated Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:57:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RichH@XXXXXX writes: > I was thinking about doing the opposite. Would like to move from northern > VA into DC. How bad are insurance rates in the city? Is theft a problem? > I'm riding a '94 Seca II, so insurance is pretty low, I live in a townhouse, > not an apartment, it's older and considered a "standard". I also get a > multiple vehicle discount now and if I were to move I might try to ditch the > car, so I wouldn't get that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Winters [mailto:rob@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:36 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers > > A slightly more involved solution: Move to Northern Virginia! > :-) > > It solves all those parking zone problems, unresponsive DMV problems, > vehicle inspection problems, emissions problems, reduces the crime problem, > lowers taxes, improves government services, gets you representation in > Congress, and many other fine benefits. > > Oh, and the sticky stuff is *on the correct side* of Virginia motorcycle > stickers! > > Food for thought. Don't answer right away. Take your time with it. Let it > sink in. ;-) > > /// Rob > > P.S. joking > > P.P.S. mostly From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 14:12:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PICWP18579 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailserver1.crosslink.net (yeti.crosslink.net [206.246.124.17]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with ESMTP id OAA13634 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:12:31 -0400 X-Really-To: Received: from [128.38.1.9] (account ) by mailserver1.crosslink.net (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 3.1) with HTTP id 53452874 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:12:31 -0400 From: biga@XXXXXX (Andrew Culpepper) Subject: Re: OT: good CD-Extractor? To: X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.3.1 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:12:31 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200110242225.AA1008271416@mail.toward.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is what I use: http://www.xingtech.com/mp3/audiocatalyst/ Andrew '90 EX500 On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 22:25:26 -0400 "Chris Norloff" wrote: > Just got an Archos 6000 Jukebox MP3 player - way cool! 100 minutes > of music on a 6GB hard drive - and it'll fit in the palm of your > hand. keeps skipping> > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 14:41:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PIfGP19017 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:41:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-11-212.s466.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.11.212] helo=electraglide) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15wpRI-0001Gm-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:41:13 -0400 Message-ID: <005501c15d84$9be92a60$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: , , , References: Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:41:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > You referring to how that lane never seems to pick it up? I'm scared to use > that one out of they'll say I was going too fast for it to register and get > a speeding ticket for a high speed in a 35 or whatever they lower it to > there. The bill that we submitted in MD addressed technical issues regarding the inability of the MTAG equipment to accurately detect motorcycle traffic. The burden was put on the MTA to correct technical problems rather than penalize riders for the system's deficiencies. We withdrew the bill because MTA addressed the technical issues. So far, I have not heard of additional problems with riders incorrectly being sent violation notices because the equipment failed to accurately detect a motorcycle. The same pressure could be applied in VA. k.loerich ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:51 AM Subject: RE: Smart-Tag questions > You referring to how that lane never seems to pick it up? I'm scared to use > that one out of they'll say I was going too fast for it to register and get > a speeding ticket for a high speed in a 35 or whatever they lower it to > there. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Lemrow [mailto:firblt@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:38 AM > To: Paul Wilson; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > > Paul, > > my experience is as follows: the windshield on the VFR works very well for > picking it up, but you have to drive right under the sensor (no matter > where you end up placing it). this sucks b/c of the oil slick when it's > wet, but it will keep you awake in the morning. also, if it's under the > windscreen, it will stay pretty dry if you get caught in the rain. that > being said, i lost a smart tag when a car piece of rubber (scrap tire) that > hit my windscreen, then my helmet, then flew over me. sucked, but i (and > the bike were ok). The smart tag got dislodged from it's velcro fasteners > and hit the toll road at >70... it didn't survive. VDOT was not so nice, > citing, as some people mentioned that smart tags are not for MC. i had a > few words with the guy behind the smart tag counter, and got a new one, > though i had to pay the $35 fee for a lost one w/o police report. > > However, what i found to works the best, is i got some more vecro strips, > plastered the back of the smart tag with them, and then stuck it to my > Saeng (www.saeng.com) GPS mount. I have their steering stem mount that > offsets it to the right of the spedo and has a big velcro pad. it works > great, is easy on/off and since i'm not usually commuting with my GPS ;) > never have to worry about trying to get both to work. (when i do, i just > revert back to holding the smart tag in my hand). Plus, it's out of harms > way from flying objects. > > Good Luck :) > > Justin > > PS it is my understanding that the dulles toll road does not give > discounts to MC's... did you (or anyone else find something differect... > besides the second lane from the left trick at the main plaza?) ;) oh, if > you try that Paul, your smart tag wil register even though you won't, so > you may want to decide ahead of time ;) > > > > At 09:27 AM 10/22/2001 -0400, you wrote: > >I find I'm spending more time travelling the Dulles corridor so I'm getting > >a Smart-Tag for the bike. Has anybody tried mounting the Smart-Tag > >transponder inside a Givi (or other hard luggage) top box? Say inside the > >lid. I'm wondering if one's body will interfere with the transmissions. > >Does the thing work in an Aerostich Roadcrafter chest pocket? Tank bag? > >I'd rather not mount it to the windscreen because it's ugly and not secure. > > > >Apparently Smart-Tag does not offer a motorcycle specific model, by looking > >at their web site. Is this true? And if so, how waterproof is it? I'd > >rather find a semi-permanent place for it on the bike somewhere. > > > >Paul in DC > >95 VFR750F > >www.wilsonline.org > > > 1999 VFR 800 > Northern VA/Washington DC > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 15:15:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PJFhP19730 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-116-70.s70.tnt10.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.116.70] helo=palladio1) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15wpyf-0007ce-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:15:41 -0400 Message-ID: <008f01c15d89$beb63740$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: , "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: living in DC Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:16:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 You should have no problem finding affordable insurance with a Seca II, especially if you "self-insure" (carry liability only) or have a large deductible on collision and comprehensive. My old 91 Nighthawk was dirt cheap to insure with full coverage, even as a newbie rider. My rates are not bad at all for full coverage on the VFR which has lots of Tupperware. The 'burbs are hardly immune from bike theft and other property crimes. Lock it up and keep it out of sight and you should be fine. That's good advice anywhere. As for ditching the cage, I probably drive a car about twice a month, since we live in a walking environment where most of life's necessities are nearby and you don't have to drive to perform basic errands like bank, post office, coffee joints, dry cleaning, groceries, hardware store, etc. If I weren't married I'd probably be cageless. For the amount we sink into that albatross we could pay for a lot of rental cars and cab fares. The biggest plus is probably the neighborhood itself. My wife and I prefer to live in an urban and historic environment, close to restaurants, clubs, live theatre, museums, etc. Come on in, the water's fine. :) Buy a home and get $5,000 lopped off your taxes courtesy of Uncle Sam. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: > I was thinking about doing the opposite. Would like to move from northern > VA into DC. How bad are insurance rates in the city? Is theft a problem? > I'm riding a '94 Seca II, so insurance is pretty low, I live in a townhouse, > not an apartment, it's older and considered a "standard". I also get a > multiple vehicle discount now and if I were to move I might try to ditch the > car, so I wouldn't get that. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 15:27:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PJRIP19876 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-231.patriot.net [209.249.180.231]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9PJRD107951; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:27:13 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD86614.6D5D156E@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:20:52 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: RichH@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: crazy VA tax stickers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yeah, tape the bastard down with clear packing tape. I neglected to do that last year and my tax sticker is now litering the highway somewhere in KY or TN (?). Bill RichH@XXXXXX wrote: > Has anyone figured out how to get the vertical sides of the VA tax sticker > to stay down? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Horstman [mailto:the.horkster@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:44 AM > To: Rob Winters > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers > > Rob Winters wrote: > > > > Oh, and the sticky stuff is *on the correct side* of Virginia motorcycle > > stickers! > > For what it's worth, my VA sticker lasted about a week before most of it > fell off the fork tube. Screw it, I've got the receipt on the bike, I > figure it is not my problem. :) > > -- > MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 15:28:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PJSMP19881 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:28:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-231.patriot.net [209.249.180.231]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9PJSJ108201; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:28:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD86657.29E008F7@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:21:59 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Wimer, Peter" CC: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" , Jim Shoemaker , "'cnorloff@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Winter Prep for a bike References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wimer, Peter wrote: > Thanks for all the info. > Can I use the same gas stabilizer as you would for a car? > Do you use the same gas in the car? Good fer boats too... > > Pete Wimer > '01 Suzuki Savage > '95 Jeep YJ > peter.wimer@XXXXXX > > what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail? > > -----Original Message----- > From: William J. Huson [mailto:bhuson@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:51 AM > To: Jim Shoemaker > Cc: Wimer, Peter; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: Re: Winter Prep for a bike > > Gas stab is a good precaution just in case we get one of our long frosty > spells. > I can recall a couple months of nothing but snow and ice down here in the > sunny > south (?). I have a battery tender, use it off and on all year. > > Bill > > Jim Shoemaker wrote: > > > I thought that was only if you were *not* going to ride through the > winter. I > > averaged a ride about once every 2 weeks throughout the winter while the > roads > > were clear. The only thing I did was put the bike on a Battery Tender and > buy > > electric socks, gloves, and jacket liner (Gerbing) for me. > > > > --Jim > > -- '00 Duc M750 > > > > "William J. Huson" wrote: > > > > > Yes, add fuel stabilizer to the gas. > > > > > > Bill > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 15:32:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PJWJP19975 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-231.patriot.net [209.249.180.231]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9PJWE109308; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:32:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3BD86742.92472025@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:25:54 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kathleen Loerich CC: RichH@XXXXXX, firblt@XXXXXX, pawilson@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions References: <005501c15d84$9be92a60$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathleen Loerich wrote: > The bill that we submitted in MD addressed technical issues regarding the > inability of the MTAG equipment to accurately detect motorcycle traffic. > The burden was put on the MTA to correct technical problems rather than > penalize riders for the system's deficiencies. We withdrew the bill because > MTA addressed the technical issues. So far, I have not heard of additional > problems with riders incorrectly being sent violation notices because the > equipment failed to accurately detect a motorcycle. > > The same pressure could be applied in VA. Ha ha - hee hee - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... (pauses to gasp for air) Yeah, apply pressure to the VA legislature HOHOHOHOHO. Might help if we could ply them with bananas, a primates fav food. Bill From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 15:42:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PJgCP20149 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH8GBS>; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:41:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: replying Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:41:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" When you reply to the group and an individual in the group that person gets 2 emails, please just send email to the group. From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 15:59:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PJx0P20435 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-40-16.s16.tnt1.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.40.16] helo=palladio1) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15wqeZ-0002KK-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:58:59 -0400 Message-ID: <00b701c15d8f$ca140260$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Kathleen Loerich" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <005501c15d84$9be92a60$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:56:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathleen Loerich > > The bill that we submitted in MD addressed technical issues regarding the > inability of the MTAG equipment to accurately detect motorcycle traffic. > The burden was put on the MTA to correct technical problems rather than > penalize riders for the system's deficiencies. We withdrew the bill because > MTA addressed the technical issues. So far, I have not heard of additional > problems with riders incorrectly being sent violation notices because the > equipment failed to accurately detect a motorcycle. > > The same pressure could be applied in VA. > > k.loerich > Now there's a concept I can support. Put the burden on state DOTs to make their equipment compatible, or else make bikes exempt from the tolls, or exempt from penalties due to poorly designed equipment. It would be a nice incentive for public agencies to fix all the unresponsive red lights and gates we encounter. If not, we get to blow through the red lights that don't change, ride free on the toll roads that can't automatically collect our tolls, park free in the garages where we have to ride around unresponsive gates, etc. It doesn't seem like it's too much to ask for these devices to be compatible with all duly licensed motor vehicles. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 16:04:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f23.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.23]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PK4WP20520 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 16:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 12:52:34 -0700 Received: from 63.251.87.214 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 19:52:34 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.251.87.214] From: "Perry Coleman" To: RichH@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: replying Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:52:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2001 19:52:34.0309 (UTC) FILETIME=[96FE9350:01C15D8E] Unless the individual is on digest, in which case they generally appreciate receiving the specific reply. >From: RichH@XXXXXX >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: replying >Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:41:08 -0400 > >When you reply to the group and an individual in the group that person gets >2 emails, please just send email to the group. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 17:02:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13506.mail.yahoo.com (web13506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9PL28P21669 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 17:02:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011025210207.96592.qmail@web13506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [146.142.50.224] by web13506.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:02:07 PDT Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 14:02:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eric M. Winslow" Subject: Re: living in DC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll second the opinion that the insurance rates are not bad in the city. I've used GEICO and now Markel and their rates are good. I recently received a quote for a new HD 883 Sportser and the quote was so surprisingly low I felt that I almost *had* to get the bike. Theft is probably the same as in the burbs. Keep a disk lock on it (I don't think you'll get the bike picker-uppers going after your Seca II) or better yet chain it to something fixed. If they can roll it though, watch out. As for those parking stickers from the message that you responded to; when I lived in Mt. Pleasant and did park my bike on the street I just ignored them, never paid for one, and never was ticketed. Heck, the sticker is obviously not for a motorcycle, I have a motorcycle, so I just assumed I didn't need one. Your mileage may vary, as they say, but the other motorcyclists in our 'gang' never had a problem either. And Mt. Pleasant definitely was not a place where small parking infractions went unnoticed. Eric '94 KLR650 (chained to a fence post) --- RichH@XXXXXX wrote: > I was thinking about doing the opposite. Would like to move from > northern > VA into DC. How bad are insurance rates in the city? Is theft a > problem? > I'm riding a '94 Seca II, so insurance is pretty low, I live in a > townhouse, > not an apartment, it's older and considered a "standard". I also get > a > multiple vehicle discount now and if I were to move I might try to > ditch the > car, so I wouldn't get that. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob Winters [mailto:rob@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 10:36 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: crazy DC Neighborhood parking stickers > > A slightly more involved solution: Move to Northern Virginia! > :-) > > It solves all those parking zone problems, unresponsive DMV problems, > > vehicle inspection problems, emissions problems, reduces the crime > problem, > lowers taxes, improves government services, gets you representation > in > Congress, and many other fine benefits. > > Oh, and the sticky stuff is *on the correct side* of Virginia > motorcycle > stickers! > > Food for thought. Don't answer right away. Take your time with it. > Let it > sink in. ;-) > > /// Rob > > P.S. joking > > P.P.S. mostly __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 18:41:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PMfKP23181 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:41:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-11-212.s466.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.11.212] helo=electraglide) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15wtBe-0005kx-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:41:19 -0400 Message-ID: <001b01c15da6$2729f520$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: "William J. Huson" Cc: , , , References: <005501c15d84$9be92a60$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> <3BD86742.92472025@patriot.net> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:41:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I'll bet if you mentioned that you were having problems to your local representatives, you might actually get an audience. Also, the VA equivalent of MTA is a place to start. If it can be done in MD, it can be done in VA. k.loerich ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Huson" To: "Kathleen Loerich" Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > > > Kathleen Loerich wrote: > > > The bill that we submitted in MD addressed technical issues regarding the > > inability of the MTAG equipment to accurately detect motorcycle traffic. > > The burden was put on the MTA to correct technical problems rather than > > penalize riders for the system's deficiencies. We withdrew the bill because > > MTA addressed the technical issues. So far, I have not heard of additional > > problems with riders incorrectly being sent violation notices because the > > equipment failed to accurately detect a motorcycle. > > > > The same pressure could be applied in VA. > > Ha ha - hee hee - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... (pauses to gasp for air) Yeah, apply > pressure to the VA legislature HOHOHOHOHO. Might help if we could ply them with > bananas, a primates fav food. > > Bill > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 18:43:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9PMhOP23256 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-11-212.s466.apx2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.11.212] helo=electraglide) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15wtDZ-00068w-00; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:43:21 -0400 Message-ID: <002901c15da6$6fe02780$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> From: "Kathleen Loerich" To: "William J. Huson" Cc: , , , References: <005501c15d84$9be92a60$1d00a8c0@cycles.local> <3BD86742.92472025@patriot.net> Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 18:43:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > > Ha ha - hee hee - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... (pauses to gasp for air) Yeah, apply > pressure to the VA legislature HOHOHOHOHO. Might help if we could ply them with > bananas, a primates fav food. > Actually, I didn't mean that you should apply pressure to VA legislators. I meant that you should ask them for assistance in dealing with the VA equivalent of MTA. The pressure you are referring to I like to consider voting. k.loerich ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Huson" To: "Kathleen Loerich" Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions > > > Kathleen Loerich wrote: > > > The bill that we submitted in MD addressed technical issues regarding the > > inability of the MTAG equipment to accurately detect motorcycle traffic. > > The burden was put on the MTA to correct technical problems rather than > > penalize riders for the system's deficiencies. We withdrew the bill because > > MTA addressed the technical issues. So far, I have not heard of additional > > problems with riders incorrectly being sent violation notices because the > > equipment failed to accurately detect a motorcycle. > > > > The same pressure could be applied in VA. > > Ha ha - hee hee - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA... (pauses to gasp for air) Yeah, apply > pressure to the VA legislature HOHOHOHOHO. Might help if we could ply them with > bananas, a primates fav food. > > Bill > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 20:17:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9Q0HXP24975 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:17:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA10082 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprelay3.abs.adelphia.net (smtprelay.abs.adelphia.net [64.8.20.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA17627 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:17:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d478406837 ([216.174.23.233]) by smtprelay3.abs.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GLSE4X03.4DL; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:17:21 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "'Richard L. Casale'" Cc: "'DC-Cycles Mailing List'" Subject: RE: Either Clogged Fueld Injectors or Fuel Filer ??? Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 20:16:38 -0400 Message-ID: <005401c15db3$7be55200$1606030a@d478406837> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <000601c15d4d$cdca3290$69f80d18@cj33046b> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Importance: Normal Get the cleaner from Chevron. Best stuff I have used. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Richard L. Casale [mailto:RichCasale@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:09 AM To: VFR List Cc: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Either Clogged Fueld Injectors or Fuel Filer ??? Recently, like an moron, I ran my 2000 Honda VFR800 out of gas twice in one night (long story). Ever since she is no where near as responsive and every once in a while the FI sputters and spurts. What I'm thinking is a) something from the bottom of the gas tank has partially clogged the fuel filter or line, or b) the same gung in the bottom of the gas tank has clogged up the fuel injectors. Not really having any clue (I can admit that) I'm curious if a) I can inspect the gas line and filter myself and b) if I can run some injector cleaner through my system that is safe for motorcycles. I don't have access to a shop manual and I don't want to spend the $$$ right now to have a dealer check it out--unless I have to. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!! From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 22:19:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe5.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.52]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9Q2JXP26969 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:19:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VIRGINIA.meyerweb.net ([24.168.215.73]) by mail5.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:19:22 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025221800.03412ec0@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:19:52 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: RE: Smart-Tag questions In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011024131842.020617a8@mail.lemrow.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Just ot see what happened, I put my smart tag in the top of my Givi top box yesterday. (Inside the flip down panel inside the lid). It worked just fine through three toll lanes (Reston Pkwy onto the toll rd eastbound, and the main toll plaza in both direciton. It failed to read getting off the toll road westbound, at Reston Pkwy. Bob Meyer From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 23:02:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail7.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9Q32lP27697 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VIRGINIA.meyerweb.net ([24.168.215.73]) by mail7.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:02:43 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025223649.034148e0@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:38:38 -0400 To: RichH@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: living in DC In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:53 AM 10/25/01 -0400, RichH@XXXXXX wrote: >I was thinking about doing the opposite. Would like to move from northern >VA into DC. How bad are insurance rates in the city? Is theft a problem? My ST1100 was the victim of an attempted theft yesterday. In broad daylight, parked on a busy street. If I hadn't had a disk lock on it, it would be gone. The perps broke the fork lock and ignition switch. I've parked bikes in the suburbs for near 30 years, and had some parts stolen once. I've been riding into the city for three weeks, and someone tries to steal the bike. Draw your own conclusions. Bob Meyer From dc-cycles-request Thu Oct 25 23:02:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail7.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe7.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.54]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9Q32mP27700 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VIRGINIA.meyerweb.net ([24.168.215.73]) by mail7.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Thu, 25 Oct 2001 23:02:46 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025224009.03416550@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 22:42:04 -0400 To: "dc-cycles list" From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: Smart-Tag questions In-Reply-To: <00b701c15d8f$ca140260$bb82fea9@palladio1> References: <005501c15d84$9be92a60$1d00a8c0@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:56 PM 10/25/01 -0400, Paul Wilson wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kathleen Loerich > > > > The bill that we submitted in MD addressed technical issues regarding the > > inability of the MTAG equipment to accurately detect motorcycle traffic. > > The burden was put on the MTA to correct technical problems rather than > > penalize riders for the system's deficiencies. We withdrew the bill >because > > MTA addressed the technical issues. So far, I have not heard of >additional > > problems with riders incorrectly being sent violation notices because the > > equipment failed to accurately detect a motorcycle. > > > > The same pressure could be applied in VA. > > > > k.loerich > > >Now there's a concept I can support. Put the burden on state DOTs to make >their equipment compatible, or else make bikes exempt from the tolls, or >exempt from penalties due to poorly designed equipment. It would be a nice >incentive for public agencies to fix all the unresponsive red lights and >gates we encounter. If not, we get to blow through the red lights that >don't change, ride free on the toll roads that can't automatically collect >our tolls, park free in the garages where we have to ride around >unresponsive gates, etc. It doesn't seem like it's too much to ask for >these devices to be compatible with all duly licensed motor vehicles. Actually, the VA legislature, last year, passed the Motorcycle nono-discrimitation bill, which basically says that VDOT can take no actions which discrimiate against MCs. The catalyst was VDOTS insistance on treating sidehacks as 3 axle vechiles and charging the truck rate at toll booths. I THINK the governor signed the bill into law, but I'm not positive. Bob Meyer From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 08:17:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11104.mail.yahoo.com (web11104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QCHKP06658 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:17:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026121719.50550.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 05:17:19 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 05:17:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: living in DC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025223649.034148e0@pop-server.cox.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii About three weeks ago, a friend of mine had his CBR929 stolen from the bike parking at 21st & I streets downtown. It was in broad daylight during a busy workday. He had a cover over it, but no disc lock. I never thought those things really deterred theives, but maybe I've been wrong about that. Sorry about your bike damage. I'm glad to hear that at least it was still there. Chris Weaver --- Bob Meyer wrote: > I've parked bikes in the suburbs for near 30 years, > and had some parts > stolen once. I've been riding into the city for > three weeks, and someone > tries to steal the bike. Draw your own conclusions. > > Bob Meyer > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 09:00:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QD07P07319 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:59:02 -0400 Message-Id: <200110260859.AA136970688@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: List-dc cycles Subject: Re: 100 hr. of music, not 100 min. X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Daniel H. Brown" >> The Archos 6000 MP3 Jukebox holds 100 HOURS of music. (6 GB disk, 1 min. >>of music per 1 MB of storage at 128 Kbps MP3). > >Just bought one of these and, so far, I really love it. > >Apple just came out with an "iPod" which is similar, but has firewire, >etc. Yes, neat! But I already want the 20GB version of the Archos. It's just a hard drive connected by USB, so you access it and load it like any disk. With your player you (somewhat clumsily) button-push your way through only the mp3 stuff. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 09:12:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe45.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.213]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QDCIP07493 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 06:12:12 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [65.205.26.143] From: "Cliff Zigmond" To: References: <20011026121719.50550.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: OT: dial-up internet Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:05:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2001 13:12:12.0497 (UTC) FILETIME=[D34AB410:01C15E1F] I have an off topic question about internet access. I haven't used dial-up in so long, so I thought I might ask. What are a few good choices for basic dial-up access for $10-$15 a month? Forget about the AOLs and MSNs, they charge way high prices. I am setting up a computer for someone who will be doing light surfing and emailing. Cliff From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 09:21:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.kivex.com (smtp-out.kivex.com [204.177.32.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QDLdP07671 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kawgirl (kawgirl.kivex.com [208.213.150.18]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id JAA02543 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:20:56 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl To: dccycles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: "Paul Wilson" To: , "dc-cycles list" Subject: Re: living in DC Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:16:39 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal coffee joints, dry cleaning, groceries, hardware store, etc. If I weren't married I'd probably be cageless. For the amount we sink into that albatross we could pay for a lot of rental cars and cab fares. The biggest plus is probably the neighborhood itself. My wife and I prefer to live in an urban and historic environment, close to restaurants, clubs, live theatre, museums, etc. I have been hearing that XCar (?) or something like that is going to set up shop at Shady Grove Metro. They will specialize in car rentals by the hour, specifically geared at cageless city dwellers who ocasionally need a cage to run suburban errands. They have been successful in California and have the go ahead from WMATA to pilot this here. I think you pay an annual fee and join them, kind of like a club. Go ahead and ditch the car and rent one for a few hours one Saturday a month to run suburban errands. I just don't know how you will haul home all of the goodies from Costco on the Metro.... Has anyone heard more about this? Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 09:23:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe62.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.63]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QDNSP07691 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 06:12:02 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [65.205.26.146] From: "Cliff Zigmond" To: "List-dc cycles" References: <200110242225.AA1008271416@mail.toward.com> Subject: Re: good CD-Extractor? Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:05:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2001 13:12:02.0767 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD7E05F0:01C15E1F] I normally use MusicMatch Jukebox. I think it's bundled with the Archos Jukebox 6000? Anyway, it does a good job. cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-dc cycles" Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 10:25 PM Subject: OT: good CD-Extractor? > Just got an Archos 6000 Jukebox MP3 player - way cool! 100 minutes of music on a 6GB hard drive - and it'll fit in the palm of your hand. > > Anyway, having a hard time finding a reasonable CD-Extractor/Ripper. Nothing fancy, just an ordinary, robust, name-brand program to pull the .cda files off the CD and convert them to .MP3 > > What are folks using? > > thanks, > Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 09:32:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c000.snv.cp.net (c000-h000.c000.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.64]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QDWLP07875 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 4308 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2001 06:32:12 -0700 Received: from 204.254.216.14 (HELO 300BMeyers.cox.rr.com) by smtp.meyer.net (209.228.32.64) with SMTP; 26 Oct 2001 06:32:12 -0700 X-Sent: 26 Oct 2001 13:32:12 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026083222.0585d890@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: RMEYER@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:35:20 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: living in DC In-Reply-To: <20011026121719.50550.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011025223649.034148e0@pop-server.cox.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:17 AM 10/26/2001 -0700, Chris Weaver wrote: >About three weeks ago, a friend of mine had his CBR929 >stolen from the bike parking at 21st & I streets >downtown. It was in broad daylight during a busy >workday. He had a cover over it, but no disc lock. I >never thought those things really deterred theives, >but maybe I've been wrong about that. > >Sorry about your bike damage. I'm glad to hear that at >least it was still there. > > Thanks. I think the disc lock is probably useful for a heavy bike. It would take a number of very determined men to pick up an ST1100, and the disk lock keeps them from simply rolling it away, or hot wiring it and riding away. I don't know that a disk lock would be as useful for, say, a CSXR600, which would be a lot easier to lift into the back of a van or pickup. I think, in the future, my lock regimin will include a very visible cable lock, connecting the bike to a post of some sort. Maybe if the perps had seen ahead of time they couldn't get the bike away, they would have left it alone. Bob Meyer ITW, Bob Meyer '92 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ===================================================== People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:00:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20002.mail.yahoo.com (web20002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.225.47]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QE0fP08363 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026140020.9933.qmail@web20002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.223.173.66] by web20002.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:00:20 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:00:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Shai Peer Subject: Re: OT: dial-up internet To: Cliff Zigmond , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't know about $10 - $15 a month, but the lowest price I know of is EarthLink that charges $22 for unlimited access and you get a free digital camera. Shai Peer ZX6-R --- Cliff Zigmond wrote: > I have an off topic question about internet access. > I haven't used dial-up > in so long, so I thought I might ask. > > What are a few good choices for basic dial-up access > for $10-$15 a month? > Forget about the AOLs and MSNs, they charge way high > prices. I am setting > up a computer for someone who will be doing light > surfing and emailing. > > Cliff > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:02:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com [24.37.122.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QE2HP08384 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:02:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (prometheus.brauhausdc.org [192.168.64.1]) by gillian.brauhausdc.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f9QE2B929838 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:02:11 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:02:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: List-dc cycles Subject: Re: good CD-Extractor? and Achos mp3 player review. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Cliff Zigmond wrote: > > I normally use MusicMatch Jukebox. I think it's bundled with the Archos > Jukebox 6000? > Anyway, it does a good job. > Music Match does come with the Archos -- there's a newer version on the MusicMatch site, and it will take the Key thats included with the Archos. I personally don't like the way MusicMatch deals with play lists - like, I'd like to build a list, but without neccesarily having it start to play each song as I put it into the list. I'm sure there's a way to fix that, but, I haven't found it yet. I've also had this recommended to me as a good way to get clean mp3's: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/index.html On the Archo itself, quick review, from 5 days of use: Plusses: - Plenty of space! - Decent battery life, plus a 2nd set of AA sized NiMH's. - Doubles as a harddrive. - Managable with Windows Explorer or Mac Finder! - Linux drivers available. - Nice front panel display. Shows song playing, etc. Minuses: - Controls difficult to use unless you're sitting still. (the "software" volume control is cool, but a pain to use when you're running on a treadmill at the gym, etc. Nearly impossible with motorcycle gloves. ) - Doesn't know about window's "shortcuts" - Lack of a built in belt clip or some such. There's one on soft case. - First Battery charge took overnight, not the 1hr they noted. - Battery covers require a screw driver to open -- screw driver easily mars soft plastic covers on the FRONT of the device. - Manual is obviously, and somewhat poorly translated to english. Would I buy it again? Yes. -- "Find the Cost of Freedom, Buried in the Ground, Mother Earth will Swallow you, Lay Your Body Down." -- CSN and sometimes Y From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:17:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QEHdP08625 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:17:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4GV0VLLF>; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:17:39 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E1C0@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: dial-up internet Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:17:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We've had decent luck with Erols around here and it's still $19.95 a month, less if you buy several months at once. https://selfcare.starpower.net/signupnow/ AT&T still has limited accounts for less than $17 http://download.att.net/partners/ List of ISP's in Virginia: http://www.findanisp.com/city/VA/Braddock/20229 Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 Annandale, VA "Chaos, panic, & disorder - my work here is done." -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Zigmond [mailto:cliffzig@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:05 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: OT: dial-up internet I have an off topic question about internet access. I haven't used dial-up in so long, so I thought I might ask. What are a few good choices for basic dial-up access for $10-$15 a month? Forget about the AOLs and MSNs, they charge way high prices. I am setting up a computer for someone who will be doing light surfing and emailing. Cliff From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:38:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QEc0P08938 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-116-226.s226.tnt10.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.116.226] helo=palladio1) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15x87R-0004K8-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:37:58 -0400 Message-ID: <011f01c15e2c$234ff860$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dccycles" References: Subject: Re: Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:28:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ----- Original Message ----- From: lisa@XXXXXX To: dccycles Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:20 AM > > From: "Paul Wilson" > To: , "dc-cycles list" > Subject: Re: living in DC > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:16:39 -0400 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > coffee joints, dry cleaning, groceries, hardware store, etc. If I weren't > married I'd probably be cageless. For the amount we sink into that > albatross we could pay for a lot of rental cars and cab fares. The > biggest plus is probably the neighborhood itself. My wife and I prefer to > live in an urban and historic environment, close to restaurants, clubs, > live theatre, museums, etc. > > I have been hearing that XCar (?) or something like that is going to set > up shop at Shady Grove Metro. They will specialize in car rentals by the > hour, specifically geared at cageless city dwellers who ocasionally need a > cage to run suburban errands. They have been successful in California and > have the go ahead from WMATA to pilot this here. I think you pay an > annual fee and join them, kind of like a club. Go ahead and ditch the car > and rent one for a few hours one Saturday a month to run suburban errands. > I just don't know how you will haul home all of the goodies from Costco on > the Metro.... > > Has anyone heard more about this? > > Lisa > '95 VFR Yep, that's one solution. Or you can patronize smaller, locally-owned businesses that don't require the customer to be the final link in the distribution chain. Sure, you'll pay a little more, but what is your time worth, especially if you have to spend 45 minutes in the car just to get there? Not to mention the costs of vehicle ownership. Big-box retail is predicated on this concept: the customer provides the delivery vehicle and schleppage services over a considerable distance. Our local Mom and Pop hardware delivers anything at no extra charge. You usually tip the driver. Call 'em up, tell 'em you want 15 bags of mulch, a couple of garbage cans, whatever, and it's delivered later in the day and the amount is charged to your account with the store. Most of your better department stores deliver. When in lived in the Windy City I'd have everything sent to my apartment. Better than trying to lug purchases onto the "L" for the ride home. Unfortunately Home Runs went belly up, but Peapod (associated with Giant) is still around for grocery delivery. All the chain supermarkets in Chicago delivered for a small fee. You could either give them a list over the phone, or do your shopping in person and have everything sent when you checked out. I rarely availed myself of that, but it was perfect for my elderly neighbors who didn't have cars (many of them, especially the women, didn't know how to drive.) Even going once a week, I never bought more than I could carry. To make a long story short: there are ways to live without personal vehicles for hauling around a lot of stuff, even in car-crazy USA. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:48:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([209.120.170.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QEm1P09143 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture [209.120.170.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9QEkp824904 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:46:51 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011026104321.0507bca0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:45:58 -0400 To: "dccycles" From: Troutman Subject: Re: living without cars In-Reply-To: <011f01c15e2c$234ff860$bb82fea9@palladio1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The signal to noise ratio is unusually high this week. ISPs, Tax Stickers, Living without cars. Where is the thread about selling shares in the tire changer, or how WD-40 rusted a chain? Anyway - Paul - it is much easier to live in the city and go without a car than it would be in the suburbs/country. And I for one really hate the city. At 10:28 AM 10/26/01, Paul Wilson wrote: >To make a long story short: there are ways to live without personal >vehicles for hauling around a lot of stuff, even in car-crazy USA. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:50:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13007.mail.yahoo.com (web13007.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QEoIP09221 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026145017.58421.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.101.4.236] by web13007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:50:17 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:50:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeremy Purdy Subject: Valve adjustments To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <200110252300.f9PN02b23570@dirty.meretrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What's the general consensus on how often to have valve adjustments done? I think my owner's manual says every 6000 (I'll have to check). I've heard of people who do it every year. My brother (don't ask me why I actually listen to his opinion) said he used to do it "when it needed it", he never did tell me how he figured out when it needed it though. What is the expected cost of a valve adjustment? Jeremy From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:52:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11105.mail.yahoo.com (web11105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.152]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QEq0P09271 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:52:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026145159.41411.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.116.158.40] by web11105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:51:59 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:51:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Ulrich Boser Reply-To: ulrich@XXXXXX Subject: parking To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <200110252300.f9PN02b23570@dirty.meretrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hello, i have MD plates on the biek and have never gotten a ticket for the neigbhood parking in the adams morgan area. i have used a cover sometimes too, that helps, i think. i know of some cases of bikes getting stolen in my area. one, a very nice BMW. and the other a lift and load, 50 cc scooter. ub __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:55:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QEtgP09294 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:55:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id KAA14736; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:52:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from unknown(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xma014287; Fri, 26 Oct 01 10:52:06 -0400 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GLT00EQYIPK4D@XXXXXX>; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:55:10 -0400 Subject: Re: living without cars To: mike@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/26/2001 10:55:17 AM Why do you hate the city? Without the city, living in NoVa would be akin to living in Blacksburg. --chris Troutman on 10/26/2001 10:45:58 AM To: dccycles cc: Subject: Re: living without cars The signal to noise ratio is unusually high this week. ISPs, Tax Stickers, Living without cars. Where is the thread about selling shares in the tire changer, or how WD-40 rusted a chain? Anyway - Paul - it is much easier to live in the city and go without a car than it would be in the suburbs/country. And I for one really hate the city. At 10:28 AM 10/26/01, Paul Wilson wrote: >To make a long story short: there are ways to live without personal >vehicles for hauling around a lot of stuff, even in car-crazy USA. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:57:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13305.mail.yahoo.com (web13305.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QEv1P09369 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:57:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026145700.43264.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [159.40.33.240] by web13305.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:57:00 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 07:57:00 -0700 (PDT) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Re: OT: dial-up internet To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011026140020.9933.qmail@web20002.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I went with AT&T Worldnet, they have a deal for $7/month for internet access and $0.07/minute long distance. I use my cell phone for LD, so the $7/month for internet access is a deal! They have one of those annoying ad bars, but it is small and since I'm not online at work much anyway I could care less. --- Shai Peer wrote: > I don't know about $10 - $15 a month, but the lowest > price I know of is EarthLink that charges $22 for > unlimited access and you get a free digital camera. > > Shai Peer > ZX6-R > > --- Cliff Zigmond wrote: > > I have an off topic question about internet > access. > > I haven't used dial-up > > in so long, so I thought I might ask. > > > > What are a few good choices for basic dial-up > access > > for $10-$15 a month? > > Forget about the AOLs and MSNs, they charge way > high > > prices. I am setting > > up a computer for someone who will be doing light > > surfing and emailing. > > > > Cliff > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 10:57:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QEvlP09379 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:57:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (dialup46.megapipe.net [208.218.73.46]) by netgate.anent.com (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA00989 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:50:30 -0400 Message-ID: <009301c15e2e$f6ba5e00$2e49dad0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: References: <20011026145017.58421.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Valve adjustments Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:00:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 What kind of bike? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Purdy" > What's the general consensus on how often to have > valve adjustments done? > > I think my owner's manual says every 6000 (I'll have > to check). I've heard of people who do it every year. > My brother (don't ask me why I actually listen to his > opinion) said he used to do it "when it needed it", he > never did tell me how he figured out when it needed it > though. > > What is the expected cost of a valve adjustment? > > Jeremy From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:02:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11105.mail.yahoo.com (web11105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.152]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QF2BP09476 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026150210.42962.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:02:10 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:02:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: living without cars To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You mean besides the awful government, rats, street people, occasional garbage collection strikes, terrible winter snow removal, lack of real representation in congress, dilapidated schools, crime, crappy cable service, and exploding manhole covers? Oh, it's not too bad. Chris --- christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > > Why do you hate the city? Without the city, living > in NoVa would be akin > to living in Blacksburg. > > --chris > > > > > > Troutman on 10/26/2001 10:45:58 > AM > > > > > > To: dccycles > cc: > Subject: Re: living without cars > > > The signal to noise ratio is unusually high this > week. ISPs, Tax Stickers, > Living without cars. Where is the thread about > selling shares in the tire > changer, or how WD-40 rusted a chain? Anyway - Paul > - it is much easier to > live in the city and go without a car than it would > be in the > suburbs/country. And I for one really hate the > city. > > At 10:28 AM 10/26/01, Paul Wilson wrote: > >To make a long story short: there are ways to live > without personal > >vehicles for hauling around a lot of stuff, even in > car-crazy USA. > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > > 1997 Honda VFR 750 > AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the > person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential > and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination > or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this > information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is > prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete > the material from any > computer. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:03:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([209.120.170.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QF3eP09486 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture [209.120.170.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9QF2c824972 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:02:38 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011026105719.0506cec0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:01:43 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: living without cars In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:55 AM 10/26/01, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >Why do you hate the city? Without the city, living in NoVa would be akin >to living in Blacksburg. How do you figure that? Maybe your section of NoVa. I live in Centreville and work in Reston. Soon to be living in Manassas. I have clients in the city. My parents own a business in NE that I worked in for 6 years. I drove trucks in the city for a year. I went to college in this area, and spent many weekend nights in the city. I gradually started to dislike it. The traffic, the noise, the crowds. Not for me. Personal preference. I stay out of DC whenever possible. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Anyone at your job ever ask you if you have a case of the Mondays?" "No. Hell no man, I believe you'd get your ass kicked for saying a thing like that." From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:07:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QF78P09563 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH8GS2>; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:06:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: living without cars Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:06:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Watch the Blacksburg comments! -----Original Message----- From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX [mailto:christopher.meier@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:55 AM To: mike@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: living without cars Why do you hate the city? Without the city, living in NoVa would be akin to living in Blacksburg. --chris Troutman on 10/26/2001 10:45:58 AM To: dccycles cc: Subject: Re: living without cars The signal to noise ratio is unusually high this week. ISPs, Tax Stickers, Living without cars. Where is the thread about selling shares in the tire changer, or how WD-40 rusted a chain? Anyway - Paul - it is much easier to live in the city and go without a car than it would be in the suburbs/country. And I for one really hate the city. At 10:28 AM 10/26/01, Paul Wilson wrote: >To make a long story short: there are ways to live without personal >vehicles for hauling around a lot of stuff, even in car-crazy USA. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:14:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13806.mail.yahoo.com (web13806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QFEiP09661 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026151441.82703.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13806.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:14:41 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:14:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: living without cars To: dccycles In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011026104321.0507bca0@mail.troutman.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Different strokes for different folks! I for one hate the suburbs. Too bland, too white, too much of the same. I am 100% willing to give up some of my tax money, safety and convenience for the ability to live near: good restaurants, diverse people, nightclubs, music stores, city architecture, non-Starbucks coffee shops, hustle/bustle, etc. We all make our choices. What bothers me is the choice of people to continually spread out in suburban sub-divisions means that we are losing much-need open/green spaces. Just 10 years ago, anything beyond the Manassas exit on 66 was farms, forests, etc. Now, you have to fight past the Kohls, Borders, etc. If people choose, or were incented, to live in more dense urban areas, our long-term enviornmental outlook in this area would be better off. My $.02 Mark --- Troutman wrote: > And I for one really hate the > city. > > At 10:28 AM 10/26/01, Paul Wilson wrote: > >To make a long story short: there are ways to live > without personal > >vehicles for hauling around a lot of stuff, even in > car-crazy USA. > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > > 1997 Honda VFR 750 > AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:20:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFK1P09798 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:20:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id LAA00886; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:16:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from unknown(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xmaa00464; Fri, 26 Oct 01 11:16:36 -0400 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GLT00IFIJUDTI@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:18:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:19:38 -0400 Subject: Re: living without cars To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/26/2001 11:19:46 AM I figure it quite simply. The buildup of northern VA would never have happened without being co-located to DC. Urban flight has created NoVa, and generally with much success (for NoVa). To be fair, I am not knocking NoVA, there are some great aspects ... I am simply defending the city. Again, without the city, the NoVa area would be a pinpoint. Maybe it's time I put together another DC ride. Ask Horkster about the last one! :-) --chris Troutman on 10/26/2001 11:01:43 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Subject: Re: living without cars At 10:55 AM 10/26/01, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >Why do you hate the city? Without the city, living in NoVa would be akin >to living in Blacksburg. How do you figure that? Maybe your section of NoVa. I live in Centreville and work in Reston. Soon to be living in Manassas. I have clients in the city. My parents own a business in NE that I worked in for 6 years. I drove trucks in the city for a year. I went to college in this area, and spent many weekend nights in the city. I gradually started to dislike it. The traffic, the noise, the crowds. Not for me. Personal preference. I stay out of DC whenever possible. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Anyone at your job ever ask you if you have a case of the Mondays?" "No. Hell no man, I believe you'd get your ass kicked for saying a thing like that." ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:22:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFMGP09818 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id LAA20428; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:11:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from unknown(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xma019947; Fri, 26 Oct 01 11:10:56 -0400 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GLT004KJJKXIV@XXXXXX>; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:13:59 -0400 Subject: Re: living without cars To: chris_vtr@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/26/2001 11:14:06 AM Ahh, were dealing with "the glass is half empty" folks here ... now I understand. BTW, you forgot high taxes and increased cost of living. How about monuments, museums, art, architecture, restaurants, fantastic park land, excellent colleges, and diversity (both in its people and the fact that every block doesn't have strip malls, a hooters and a bennigans) ... Think DC is bad now? You should have lived there 10-15 years ago. It's downright pleasant now! :-) --chris Chris Weaver on 10/26/2001 11:02:10 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Subject: Re: living without cars You mean besides the awful government, rats, street people, occasional garbage collection strikes, terrible winter snow removal, lack of real representation in congress, dilapidated schools, crime, crappy cable service, and exploding manhole covers? Oh, it's not too bad. Chris --- christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > > Why do you hate the city? Without the city, living > in NoVa would be akin > to living in Blacksburg. > > --chris > > > > > > Troutman on 10/26/2001 10:45:58 > AM > > > > > > To: dccycles > cc: > Subject: Re: living without cars > > > The signal to noise ratio is unusually high this > week. ISPs, Tax Stickers, > Living without cars. Where is the thread about > selling shares in the tire > changer, or how WD-40 rusted a chain? Anyway - Paul > - it is much easier to > live in the city and go without a car than it would > be in the > suburbs/country. And I for one really hate the > city. > > At 10:28 AM 10/26/01, Paul Wilson wrote: > >To make a long story short: there are ways to live > without personal > >vehicles for hauling around a lot of stuff, even in > car-crazy USA. > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org/vfr > > 1997 Honda VFR 750 > AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the > person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential > and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination > or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this > information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is > prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete > the material from any > computer. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:28:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([209.120.170.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFSaP09907 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:28:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture [209.120.170.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9QFRZ825090 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:27:35 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011026112310.04fd4ba0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:26:40 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: living without cars In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed DC being responsible for NoVA's growth is a testament to how much many people dislike cities. They will endure long commutes just to not have to live in DC. In my case, I live in the country and work in the suburbs. For me - it is the best of both worlds. http://www.troutman.org/suheil/suheilfront-pond00819.jpg Plan that DC ride - I'll go. As long as I don't have to move there at the end. ;-) At 11:19 AM 10/26/01, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >I figure it quite simply. The buildup of northern VA would never have >happened without being co-located to DC. Urban flight has created NoVa, >and generally with much success (for NoVa). To be fair, I am not knocking >NoVA, there are some great aspects ... I am simply defending the city. > >Again, without the city, the NoVa area would be a pinpoint. Maybe it's >time I put together another DC ride. Ask Horkster about the last one! :-) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Anyone at your job ever ask you if you have a case of the Mondays?" "No. Hell no man, I believe you'd get your ass kicked for saying a thing like that." From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:34:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds2.fincen.uscg.mil (cgds2.fincen.uscg.mil [152.121.36.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFY5P09995 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil by cgds2.fincen.uscg.mil with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:33:36 -0400 Received: by hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:33:55 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Winter Prep for a bike Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:34:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Winter suggestions: If you need a tune up -- get it now. Unless you have a way to haul or tow your ride over to the shop. There is nothing more painful than riding on a REALLY cold day. Change out the fluids (acid build up). Windscreens are definitely nice. Keep your gas tank completely full when storing for a week or two (I practice this year round). This helps prevent corrosion unless you have a tank coating. Beemer's usually have a factory coating, [I think HD does as well but the vibration may cause hairline cracks in the epoxy and you have to recoat. After a period of time HD tanks tend to hold less and less fuel as more and more coats are applied --No hate mail..... I'm just crackin' on HD. After market tank coating products aren't pricey, they're easy to use and they really are a bonus if your tank has some corrosion. Drain your carb bowls. Gas turns to a varnish like substance if it sits too long. I think the last two winters around here I was riding into December and even a time or two in January. February I usually reserve for ramp up and break out in March/April (depending on the conditions). You will be cold! Look out for frostbite (no kidding). Move to Arizona. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:36:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe49.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.217]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFabP10083 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:36:21 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [65.205.26.235] From: "Cliff Zigmond" To: "List-dc cycles" References: Subject: Re: good CD-Extractor? and Achos mp3 player review. Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:29:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2001 15:36:21.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[F63E0FD0:01C15E33] > (the "software" volume control is cool, but a pain to use when you're > running on a treadmill at the gym, etc. Nearly impossible with motorcycle > gloves. ) There is a quicker way to change the volume. Hold down the ON button while pressing + or -. It works much better than scrolling thru the menus. cliff From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:38:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe16.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.240.120]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFcsP10103 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:38:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 08:38:45 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [65.205.26.206] From: "Cliff Zigmond" To: References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E1C0@NCEAEXCHANGE> Subject: Re: dial-up internet Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:31:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2001 15:38:45.0020 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C0B3DC0:01C15E34] I thought I might try Netzero's pay service. It runs at $9.95/month and should serve for the person I am setting it up for. Any comments on Netzero? (not the free service with advertisements out the wazoo, the pay plan!) Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 10:17 AM Subject: RE: dial-up internet > We've had decent luck with Erols around here and it's still $19.95 a month, > less if you buy several months at once. > https://selfcare.starpower.net/signupnow/ > AT&T still has limited accounts for less than $17 > http://download.att.net/partners/ > List of ISP's in Virginia: > http://www.findanisp.com/city/VA/Braddock/20229 > > Cedric > 1996 CBR600F3 > Annandale, VA > > "Chaos, panic, & disorder - my work here is done." > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cliff Zigmond [mailto:cliffzig@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 9:05 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: OT: dial-up internet > > > I have an off topic question about internet access. I haven't used dial-up > in so long, so I thought I might ask. > > What are a few good choices for basic dial-up access for $10-$15 a month? > Forget about the AOLs and MSNs, they charge way high prices. I am setting > up a computer for someone who will be doing light surfing and emailing. > > Cliff From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:46:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFkjP10259 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4KXHLGQ4>; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:43:05 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF549@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: living without cars Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:43:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Getting to work in 12 minutes, getting home in 12 minutes, side streets for easy escape from traffic jams, Ethiopian restaurants (HA! When's the last time you saw one of those in Springfield?!), a cab ride home for $8 or less (no more choosing between drinking and driving!), Rock Creek Parkway for a morning ride,the 9:30 club, tin ceilings, funky old Victorians, falling crime rates, the Mayor's command center where you call one number to have the city fix anything (and yes, they actually respond!), Salvadorean markets, and don't forget the $5000 first time home buyer tax credit and no property tax for the first 5 years... ...and the suburbs have: major gridlock, soccer moms in SUVs and mini vans who can't drive worth a darn, houses that all look the same, mean people, bridges to cross that get jammed up any time the sun is out or whenever that first drop of rain hits, property tax every stinkin' year on your car (!!!), no effective transport in or out of the city without a vehicle, overinflated property values, toll roads, and no reason for me to leave my urban happiness! -patti -----Original Message----- From: Chris Weaver [mailto:chris_vtr@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:02 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: living without cars You mean besides the awful government, rats, street people, occasional garbage collection strikes, terrible winter snow removal, lack of real representation in congress, dilapidated schools, crime, crappy cable service, and exploding manhole covers? Oh, it's not too bad. Chris From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:48:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m10.mx.aol.com (imo-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.165]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFmGP10295 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LakeSueE@XXXXXX by imo-m10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.50.af42e1 (15889) for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web30.aolmail.aol.com (web30.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.6]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v80.17) with ESMTP id MAILINID84-1026114808; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:48:08 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:48:08 EDT From: LakeSueE@XXXXXX Subject: new mechanic on the rise! To: "dccycles" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <50.af42e1.290adfb9@aol.com> Hi everyone! Congrats are in order for me on doing my very first maintenance on my motorcycle yesterday! When I got back from my 2 week vacation and finally got to see her, she was pretty low on juice and wouldn't start. With a lot of coaching from my friend Dave, I got out to Kmart to buy a battery, filled it and charged it and then (the best part) actually replaced the battery and hooked up the wires by myself! I got her running and we went out for a ride last night. It was beautiful! Next learning step for me is to perform an oil change and do the spark plugs...big question is, isn't there any way to work on a motorcycle without getting dirty???? Just kidding. Very happy to be back out on the road even I missed the best week and a half to ride! Sue 86 Eli From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:50:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds2.fincen.uscg.mil (cgds2.fincen.uscg.mil [152.121.36.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFosP10382 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil by cgds2.fincen.uscg.mil with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:50:08 -0400 Received: by hqex6.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:50:27 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Gas Stabilizer Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:50:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" One thing about Gas Stabilizer.... it's great for 55 gal drums of gas but it runs about $1.00 per ounce. Gas is what, $1 and some change per gallon? What's the expiration time on gasoline? Is a month or 2 or 3 okay for gas to sit around? Does anyone know? I think around here it's a non-issue... Any lengthy timeline would probably dictate pouring your M/C gas into your 4 wheeler. Coat your tank if your worried about corrosion. If your not riding this winter... put your bike up on a jack and dis-assemble it for something to do until spring. > From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 11:52:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hermal005i0.teligent.com (hermal005i0.teligent.net [64.64.159.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QFqkP10412 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:52:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hermal004i0.teligent.net (hermal004i0.teligent.net [10.0.37.2]) by hermal005i0.teligent.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26492 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by hermal004i0.teligent.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4HXRB003>; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:44:57 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Wimer, Peter" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: living without cars Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:44:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I never really considered Centreville (or Manassas) the "Country"! Maybe I just never realized the "Country" had so many strip malls. :-) Pete Wimer '01 Suzuki Savage '95 Jeep YJ peter.wimer@XXXXXX what would you attempt to do if you knew you could not fail? -----Original Message----- From: Troutman [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 11:27 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: living without cars DC being responsible for NoVA's growth is a testament to how much many people dislike cities. They will endure long commutes just to not have to live in DC. In my case, I live in the country and work in the suburbs. For me - it is the best of both worlds. http://www.troutman.org/suheil/suheilfront-pond00819.jpg Plan that DC ride - I'll go. As long as I don't have to move there at the end. ;-) At 11:19 AM 10/26/01, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >I figure it quite simply. The buildup of northern VA would never have >happened without being co-located to DC. Urban flight has created NoVa, >and generally with much success (for NoVa). To be fair, I am not knocking >NoVA, there are some great aspects ... I am simply defending the city. > >Again, without the city, the NoVa area would be a pinpoint. Maybe it's >time I put together another DC ride. Ask Horkster about the last one! :-) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Anyone at your job ever ask you if you have a case of the Mondays?" "No. Hell no man, I believe you'd get your ass kicked for saying a thing like that." From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 12:05:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (cj463119-a.alngtn1.va.home.com [24.37.122.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QG50P10575 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:05:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gillian.brauhausdc.org (prometheus.brauhausdc.org [192.168.64.1]) by gillian.brauhausdc.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f9QG4r930323 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:04:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Gas Stabilizer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, Bruhl, George LT wrote: > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:50:40 -0400 > From: "Bruhl, George LT" > To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" > Subject: Gas Stabilizer > > One thing about Gas Stabilizer.... it's great for 55 gal drums of gas but > it runs about $1.00 per ounce. Gas is what, $1 and some change per gallon? Ya, but how expensive is a carb dissassemble, clean and rebuild? Gas stabilizer is supposed to help prevent buildup of varnish on the insides of the carbs and what not, as I understand it anyhow. > What's the expiration time on gasoline? Is a month or 2 or 3 okay for gas > to sit around? Its not the gas you need to worry about, its the machine! Gas is basically the most disposable element of the vehicle, no? Followed quickly by the oil and the filters. > Coat your tank if your worried about corrosion. If your not riding this > winter... put your bike up on a jack and dis-assemble it for something to do > until spring. One of the best ways I can think of to keep corrosion off of the inside of a gas tank, is to have it full of gas! Better for long term storage, of course, would be to have it well coated with machine oil and sealed in a plastic bag. -- "Find the Cost of Freedom, Buried in the Ground, Mother Earth will Swallow you, Lay Your Body Down." -- CSN and sometimes Y From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 12:17:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org ([209.120.170.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QGHQP10818 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:17:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture [209.120.170.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f9QGGP825291 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:16:26 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011026121348.0506e9b0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:14:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: RE: living without cars In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Swing by the house sometime and decide for yourself. Pockets of country all over. My new house is surrounded by about 20 large farms. I call that country. At 11:44 AM 10/26/01, you wrote: >I never really considered Centreville (or Manassas) the "Country"! Maybe I >just never realized the "Country" had so many strip malls. :-) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Anyone at your job ever ask you if you have a case of the Mondays?" "No. Hell no man, I believe you'd get your ass kicked for saying a thing like that." From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 12:25:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from laundry.annapurna.com (rob-0.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.145.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QGPaP10919 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:25:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from odinseat.annapurna.com (rob-0.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.145.59]) by laundry.annapurna.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9QGPUc28831 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:25:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rob@XXXXXX) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011026115333.048eef70@mail.annapurna.com> X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:20:31 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: RE: living without cars In-Reply-To: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF549@CWDEXCH0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Look what my proselytizing hath wrought! Mea culpa. My one-and-only real point (if any) was that NoVA governments are, on par, more end-user-friendly than DC government. I'm not anti-urban or anything, and I'm not sucking around for a long commute. I live in Arlington, therefore inside the original diamond, and yes I *could* live without a car if I didn't enjoy having a car! Maquest sez I'm: 10.0 miles to 401 3rd St SW (Federal Center SW Metro, my workplace) 8.8 miles to Wisconsin Ave & M St 9.5 miles to 1800 Diagonal Rd, Alexandria (King St Metro) 6.7 miles 1961 Chain Bridge Rd, McLean (Tysons Corner Mall) 0.9 miles to nearest MetroRail station (East Falls Church) 1 block to nearest bus (the 3 line) 3 blocks to at least two inspection and emissions test stations (sorry, couldn't resist :-) 4 blocks to nearest shopping (Safeway, 2 drug stores, 2 video stores, Trak Auto, pet store, bagel place, etc, etc) 1 block to nearest ethnic food (Pho) There's no gridlock here. Rush hour blows right by and leaves us alone. Unlike my sister in Sterling, I go to the grocery store any old time; no crowd-avoidance tactics are necessary. It's absolutely true that NoVA wouldn't be NoVA without the Nation's Capital. Well, duh. I just don't live there, is all; I like it better "out" here. /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 12:30:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11003.mail.yahoo.com (web11003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QGUdP11083 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026163038.72452.qmail@web11003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.59.120.202] by web11003.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:30:38 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Davison, Scott" Subject: Re: Gas Stabilizer To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii One word: Bean-O! ===== www.throttlegrip.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 12:33:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11004.mail.yahoo.com (web11004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.54]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QGX7P11103 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026163306.13806.qmail@web11004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.59.120.202] by web11004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:33:06 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:33:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Davison, Scott" Subject: Re: new mechanic on the rise! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <50.af42e1.290adfb9@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ...big question is, isn't there > any way to work on a motorcycle without getting > dirty???? > > Just kidding. > Actually, a really clean bike goes a long way toward acheiving that! Plus, bikes are 10 times cleaner than cars. I don't like cars anymore :) -scott ===== www.throttlegrip.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 12:36:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cgds2.fincen.uscg.mil (cgds2.fincen.uscg.mil [152.121.36.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QGaVP11191 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hqex.comdt.uscg.mil by cgds2.fincen.uscg.mil with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:36:01 -0400 Received: by hqex.comdt.uscg.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:36:53 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'Davison, Scott'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Gas Stabilizer Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:36:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Oxymoron.... This is a no-Sh1tter.... I was in Wally Mart one day and saw an advertisement for a Bean-O windbreaker.... I probably should have mailed that one to Letterman or Leno. -----Original Message----- From: Davison, Scott [mailto:mra510@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:30 PM To: Bruhl, George LT Subject: Re: Gas Stabilizer One word: Bean-O! ===== www.throttlegrip.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 12:49:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QGnJP11397 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:49:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:47:17 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 11:45:48 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: new mechanic on the rise! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9QGohP11398 Good Job Sue, you will be adjusting valves in no time. Working on you own bikes can be rewarding when things go right, very frustrating when they don't. I would recommend a battery tender if you are going to leave the bike unattended for any time. Also just buy some latex gloves, like all the mail carriers are using for working on you bike. ( if you can find any) Cheers, George Cole George M Cole Technology Consultant Boise Technology 301-523-4161 FAX 1-888-240-3154 >>> 10/26/01 11:48AM >>> Hi everyone! Congrats are in order for me on doing my very first maintenance on my motorcycle yesterday! When I got back from my 2 week vacation and finally got to see her, she was pretty low on juice and wouldn't start. With a lot of coaching from my friend Dave, I got out to Kmart to buy a battery, filled it and charged it and then (the best part) actually replaced the battery and hooked up the wires by myself! I got her running and we went out for a ride last night. It was beautiful! Next learning step for me is to perform an oil change and do the spark plugs...big question is, isn't there any way to work on a motorcycle without getting dirty???? Just kidding. Very happy to be back out on the road even I missed the best week and a half to ride! Sue 86 Eli From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 13:13:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ddlexchange.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QHD7P11896 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jstrang ([204.245.128.170]) by ddlexchange.ddlomni.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:02:11 -0400 From: "Jon Strang" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: living without cars Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:11:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011026121348.0506e9b0@mail.troutman.org> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2001 17:02:11.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[F41C4AD0:01C15E3F] That is *not* country. That's pretty well populated, with many of the disadvantages and few of the advantages of living in a truly rural area. I was raised in Bagdad, Arizona. The nearest stoplight was ~60 miles away. The area is so sparsely populated, that even jeep trails and fire roads show up on state maps (and probably mapquest, too). So when I say that the town had 2,500 people, realize that was the only people for miles. It's not like here, where "the sticks" means a porch light within walking distance, and a gas station every 5 or 10 miles. Although that's pretty extreme, you need to get way out in the boonies to get the real advantages I grew up with: -dirt biking right out of my driveway. Burn a gas tank without crossing same trail twice. -Miles of uninhabited, very twisty 2-lane blacktop with nary a car for tens of minutes at a time. -hunting, camping, whatever... just about anywhere starting 5 minutes from my house -zero crime. never locked house, never locked car. hell, most people's keys stayed in cars 24/7. Disadvantages of the sticks: -You know everyone and they know you all too well -My first tastes of non mainstream food had to wait until I graduated high school -cultural activities? -limited employment options (copper miner or school teacher) -limited, ahem, social options -etc. BTW, I live near the center of the metro area, on the Arlington side of the river. I love my 5 minute commute to Crystal City and my access to all that the inside-the-beltway urban area has to offer. I'm never going back to the sticks. Except to ride. --jon 01 Suz Bandit 1200 ----------------------- Troutman wrote: > Swing by the house sometime and decide for yourself. Pockets of country > all over. My new house is surrounded by about 20 large farms. I > call that > country. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 13:38:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from kafka.net.nih.gov (kafka.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QHc5P12347 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.231.204.136] ([128.231.204.136]) by kafka.net.nih.gov (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9QHc4K04320 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20011026140020.9933.qmail@web20002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20011026140020.9933.qmail@web20002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:30:56 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Erick Singley Subject: Re: OT: dial-up internet Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I'm with xecu.net (which the following doesn't mention) [which bought fred.net] however I noticed this local DC ISP list in the Washington Post site http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/washtech/ffwd/ISP/ispdirectory_2001_local.htm From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 13:40:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14608.mail.yahoo.com (web14608.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.88]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QHehP12369 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026174041.16645.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.160.240] by web14608.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:40:41 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 10:40:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Valve adjustments To: Jeremy Purdy , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011026145017.58421.qmail@web13007.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii to answer these questions we need to know what kind of motorcycle you own if your manual says every 6k, you must own a pre-2000 ducati superbike??? --- Jeremy Purdy wrote: > What's the general consensus on how often to have > valve adjustments done? > > I think my owner's manual says every 6000 (I'll have > to check). I've heard of people who do it every year. > My brother (don't ask me why I actually listen to his > opinion) said he used to do it "when it needed it", he > never did tell me how he figured out when it needed it > though. > > What is the expected cost of a valve adjustment? > > Jeremy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 13:49:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QHnRP12571 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-122-212-10.s264.apx1k.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.212.10] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15xB6j-0003hx-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:49:26 -0400 Message-ID: <009701c15e46$e27dc720$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: living without cars Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:50:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Heck, where I grew up in the country, all the members of the township board had the same last name (and gene pool no doubt) and the nearest neighbor was a half-mile away and he owned a 60-head dairy farm. True country life loses a little of its appeal when you're downwind from a sludge pond (for you slickers, that's an open-air disposal facility for "meadow muffins".) Anyway, for a more serious discussion of these issues city/suburb issues and the ill effects of fragmented metropolitan governance (metro DC is perhaps the most flagrant example of this due to the peculiarities of the federal enclave) see http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/99dec/9912katz.htm Now back to our regularly scheduled gun thread. Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Strang" > That is *not* country. That's pretty well populated, with many of the > disadvantages and few of the advantages of living in a truly rural area. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 13:58:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c000.snv.cp.net (c000-h000.c000.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.64]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QHw5P12770 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:58:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 6773 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2001 10:57:57 -0700 Received: from 204.254.216.14 (HELO 300BMeyers.cox.rr.com) by smtp.meyer.net (209.228.32.64) with SMTP; 26 Oct 2001 10:57:57 -0700 X-Sent: 26 Oct 2001 17:57:57 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026135632.05244a80@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: RMEYER@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 13:57:39 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: living in DC In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011026083222.0585d890@pop-server.cox.rr.com> References: <20011026121719.50550.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> <5.1.0.14.0.20011025223649.034148e0@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:35 AM 10/26/2001 -0400, I wrote: >I don't know that a disk lock would be as useful for, say, a CSXR600, >which would be a lot easier to lift into the back of a van or pickup. CSXR? Don't know what my fingers were thinking . Of course, I meant to type GSXR. ITW, Bob Meyer '92 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ===================================================== People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 14:02:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QI2rP12876 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.10c.78073c9 (4050) for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:02:40 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <10c.78073c9.290aff3f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:02:39 EDT Subject: Re: living without cars To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10c.78073c9.290aff3f_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 --part1_10c.78073c9.290aff3f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit christopher.meier@XXXXXX writes: > How about monuments, museums, art, architecture, restaurants, fantastic > park land, excellent colleges, and diversity (both in its people and the > fact that every block doesn't have strip malls, a hooters and a bennigans) > But no good places to ride a MOTORCYCLE in the city! One of the many reasons I live in Winchester... :) Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_10c.78073c9.290aff3f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit christopher.meier@XXXXXX writes:


How about monuments, museums, art, architecture, restaurants, fantastic
park land, excellent colleges, and diversity (both in its people and the
fact that every block doesn't have strip malls, a hooters and a bennigans)


But no good places to ride a MOTORCYCLE in the city! One of the many reasons I live in Winchester...  :)

Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R --part1_10c.78073c9.290aff3f_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 14:52:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QIqcP13764 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:52:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp02.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.142]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GLT00JE0TR4G7@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:52:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp02.wcomnet.com by dgismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42263) with SMTP id <0GLT00L01TQX9O@XXXXXX>; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:52:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by dgismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42263) with ESMTP id <0GLT00CHOTQTCY@XXXXXX>; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:52:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:51:42 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: living without cars To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3BD9B0BE.AC21B8EC@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > Again, without the city, the NoVa area would be a pinpoint. Maybe it's > time I put together another DC ride. Ask Horkster about the last one! :-) I missed the last one, but would jump at the chance for a nice guided tour around the city by someone who knows what they are doing. It's kind of overwhelming for this ex-country boy to ride in the 'hood on his own. -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 15:10:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11104.mail.yahoo.com (web11104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QJAYP14048 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026191033.9542.qmail@web11104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:10:33 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:10:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: living without cars To: SBave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <10c.78073c9.290aff3f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Depends what sort of motorcycle you own I think. I can imagine that owning a supermotard could be pretty entertaining in D.C. :^) Lots of curbs to jump. Chris --- SBave@XXXXXX wrote: > But no good places to ride a MOTORCYCLE in the city! > One of the many reasons > I live in Winchester... :) > > Steve Broadstreet > 01 ZX-9R > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 15:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QJHTP14200 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:17:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4KXHLGQ0>; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:13:48 -0400 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF551@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: living without cars--- great DC rides Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:13:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain >I missed the last one, but would jump at the chance for a nice guided >tour around the city by someone who knows what they are doing. There's a lot of cool roads to go on here in DC. Most of them are not speed-zones but that's ok. Like through Spring Valley (Rockwood Parkway area) while the leaves are falling. Rock Creek Parkway and all the cool places it goes. Beach Drive, Military Road. Mac Arthur Blvd (and if allowed to leave the city it's a fun ride out till it ends), Canal Road (Ditto) And of course the monument ares--- especially at night! I'd be glad to give a tour around DC! From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 15:46:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QJkEP14677 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:46:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:44:15 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:44:08 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: Kart Racing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9QJleP14678 Hey Everyone, A few of us are going up to the Kart place in Sterling Sat around 7:00 http://www.allsportsgp.com/ If anyone feels like banging wheels with us come on by. Cheers, George Cole From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 15:57:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11006.mail.yahoo.com (web11006.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.56]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9QJvoP14840 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:57:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011026195749.32863.qmail@web11006.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.59.120.202] by web11006.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:57:49 PDT Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:57:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Davison, Scott" Subject: Re: Kart Racing To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmmm, that sounds mighty fun, I may have to show up. -Scott --- George Cole wrote: > Hey Everyone, > > A few of us are going up to the Kart place in > Sterling Sat around 7:00 > > http://www.allsportsgp.com/ > > If anyone feels like banging wheels with us come on > by. > > Cheers, > > George Cole > > ===== www.throttlegrip.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 16:20:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9QKKtP15266 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-113-237.s491.tnt8.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.113.237] helo=palladio1) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15xDTJ-0005FM-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:20:54 -0400 Message-ID: <005f01c15e5c$0bd69920$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "lantech" , "'Dc-Cycles \(E-mail\)" References: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF551@CWDEXCH0> Subject: great DC rides Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:21:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 How about "DC Underground Tour"? Hit all four highway tunnels: 12th St., 9th St., 3rd St. and Beach Drive. For good measure hit the four long "Circle" underpasses too. Washington, Dupont, Scott and Thomas. The back roads off Beach Drive near the stables have some interesting twisties. We could do a "fort tour" too. Ride the circle of Civil War era forts that ringed the city starting with Battery Kemble above Georgetown, Fort Reno and Fort Stevens in NW and then the string in SE, ending up near St. Elizabeth's. A lot of it is a continuous parkway in SE. Yes, there are nice parts of SE. There are lots of interesting out of the way historic sites to visit, like the Frederick Douglass home in Anacostia. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F ----- Original Message ----- From: "lantech" To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 3:13 PM Subject: RE: living without cars--- great DC rides > > > > > >I missed the last one, but would jump at the chance for a nice guided > >tour around the city by someone who knows what they are doing. > > > There's a lot of cool roads to go on here in DC. Most of them are not > speed-zones but that's ok. > > Like through Spring Valley (Rockwood Parkway area) while the leaves are > falling. Rock Creek Parkway and all the cool places it goes. Beach Drive, > Military Road. Mac Arthur Blvd (and if allowed to leave the city it's a fun > ride out till it ends), Canal Road (Ditto) And of course the monument > ares--- especially at night! I'd be glad to give a tour around DC! > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 20:44:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com [207.46.181.79]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9R0i7P19470 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.42.222.3]) by cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Fri, 26 Oct 2001 17:43:16 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: Any upcoming rides? Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:44:30 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: <50.af42e1.290adfb9@aol.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2001 00:43:17.0667 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E758730:01C15E80] Its getting a bit colder and motorcyclists are disappearing from the streets. I am wondering if there are some experience riders in this list that would like to ride with me. I would be intersted in going for a ride in route 33 to elkins then on 219 north, and 50 east. Any experienced riders would like to ride? Im not a very good rider but i would like to learn from someone who knows how to ride properly. I usually do most of my riding alone and i dont really know if im doing it correctly or not. I think in the last 2 years since i started biking i have over 70k on motrocycles. I have several books on biking that i have read and have done as they say in cornering and stuff, but i would really appreciate the expertise of a good rider. Im thinking of signing up for track days whenever possible, not so i can be a racer, so i can just learn to control my machine a bit better. Thanx Ricardo Pontes 01 yamaha r1 98 triumph tiger From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 20:55:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r09.mx.aol.com (imo-r09.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.105]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9R0tbP19609 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id r.76.11e8d592 (4554); Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:55:25 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <76.11e8d592.290b5ffc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:55:24 EDT Subject: Re: living without cars To: chris_vtr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_76.11e8d592.290b5ffc_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 --part1_76.11e8d592.290b5ffc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chris_vtr@XXXXXX writes: > Depends what sort of motorcycle you own I think. I can > imagine that owning a supermotard could be pretty > entertaining in D.C. :^) Lots of curbs to jump. Damn...sounds fun! Now who's gonna get rid of all the cages... :) Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_76.11e8d592.290b5ffc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chris_vtr@XXXXXX writes:


Depends what sort of motorcycle you own I think. I can
imagine that owning a supermotard could be pretty
entertaining in D.C. :^) Lots of curbs to jump.



Damn...sounds fun! Now who's gonna get rid of all the cages...  :)
Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R
 --part1_76.11e8d592.290b5ffc_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 20:56:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9R0ugP19612 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:56:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id n.14e.318c892 (4554); Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:56:30 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <14e.318c892.290b603e@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:56:30 EDT Subject: Re: living without cars--- great DC rides To: lantech@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_14e.318c892.290b603e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 --part1_14e.318c892.290b603e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lantech@XXXXXX writes: > I'd be glad to give a tour around DC! > Schedule one! :) Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_14e.318c892.290b603e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lantech@XXXXXX writes:


I'd be glad to give a tour around DC!

Schedule one!  :)
Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R
 --part1_14e.318c892.290b603e_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Oct 26 23:05:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9R35aP21501 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 23:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO (1Cust116.tnt15.tco2.da.uu.net [63.22.130.116]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9R35ND08268 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000d01c15e94$5fe99980$7482163f@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: Re: living without cars Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 23:06:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > Again, without the city, the NoVa area would be a pinpoint. Maybe it's > time I put together another DC ride. Ask Horkster about the last one! :-) To which the Horkster replied: I missed the last one, but would jump at the chance for a nice guided tour around the city by someone who knows what they are doing. It's kind of overwhelming for this ex-country boy to ride in the 'hood on his own. How about it!! Today I got an "emergency" call from my sis in Houston, said she had a good friend/co-worker flying into BWI at 6:30 p.m. who needed a pick-up and delivery service from yours truly to The Monarch Hotel, 24th and M NW. Now, I know the interstate system of suburban DC-Balto. very well, but once inside 495 down Conn. Ave., man, I was just lost. I played it cool, I had directions and advice from others on how to get where I was going, but damn. I'm a real red neck, hick, blue collar wannabe, whatever you wanna call me (just never late for dinner). I got to thinking, I'm missing a lot. I have no idea about Jack inside the beltway, but I would like to. Crimony, I've lived less than 40 minutes from The Mall for 23 years now, and couldn't find the White House with both hands and a road map. If someone who knows the D.C. area well enough would want to lead a crew of us (or just me), who are... uh-hum... more comfy in the saddle of a J-D 4010 turning the back 40 with a 10 turn harrow than trying to figure out which lane to be in when I have to turn right onto M from Conn. Ave, around the sights and scenes... then by all means, LEAD ON!! I'll go in a heart beat. Maybe we can end the evening knocking back some cold ones at one of those bars along M. Holler at me if I'm not crazy. It would help if you're female, in your mid-20s, single and can stop traffic in your leather riding pants (Hey, I can dream, right?). Maybe then I would be out on a Friday night at 11:00 instead of here in front of my 'puter alone. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 06:49:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RAnRP00649 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:49:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id GAA25239; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:46:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from unknown(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xma024830; Sat, 27 Oct 01 06:45:43 -0400 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GLV003JQ1YXAJ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:48:46 -0400 Subject: Re: living without cars To: SBave@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/27/2001 06:48:52 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9RAoqP00650 Depends on how you view good. It's not twisties, but given the choice, I would much rather skirt through traffic with, and park a motorcycle (rather than a cage) in DC! Riding in DC is great ... but for different reasons. --chris SBave@XXXXXX on 10/26/2001 02:02:39 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Subject: Re: living without cars christopher.meier@XXXXXX writes: How about monuments, museums, art, architecture, restaurants, fantastic park land, excellent colleges, and diversity (both in its people and the fact that every block doesn't have strip malls, a hooters and a bennigans) But no good places to ride a MOTORCYCLE in the city! One of the many reasons I live in Winchester...M- :) Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 06:51:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RApUP00726 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:51:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id GAA27213; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:48:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from unknown(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xma026944; Sat, 27 Oct 01 06:47:54 -0400 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GLV003K622KAJ@XXXXXX>; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:50:56 -0400 Subject: Re: living without cars To: the.horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/27/2001 06:51:04 AM Dale, The last one was the first one. :-) Didn't you attend on that "easy" KZ1k? --chris Dale Horstman on 10/26/2001 02:51:42 PM To: Christopher Meier/US/ABAS/PwC@AMERICAS-US cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: living without cars christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > Again, without the city, the NoVa area would be a pinpoint. Maybe it's > time I put together another DC ride. Ask Horkster about the last one! : -) I missed the last one, but would jump at the chance for a nice guided tour around the city by someone who knows what they are doing. It's kind of overwhelming for this ex-country boy to ride in the 'hood on his own. -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 08:47:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RClZP02290 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VIRGINIA.meyerweb.net ([24.168.215.73]) by Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:47:32 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011027084652.02b9a5f0@pop-server.cox.rr.com> X-Sender: rmeyer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:48:05 -0400 To: From: Bob Meyer Subject: Bike Alarms In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Given that someone tried to steal my bike this week, I'm considering adding an alarm. I recall putting a Cobra alarm on one of my bikes years ago, and finding it pretty unreliable. Does anyone have any fairly recent experience with motorcycle alarms? Good or bad? Preferably one with a paging system/ Thanks, Bob Meyer From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 08:52:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com (imo-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.37]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RCq3P02368 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:52:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id h.105.b63c64b (17380); Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:48:08 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <105.b63c64b.290c0708@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:48:08 EDT Subject: Re: living without cars To: HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_105.b63c64b.290c0708_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 --part1_105.b63c64b.290c0708_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX writes: > If someone who knows the D.C. area well enough would want to lead a crew of > us (or just me), I'm with Howard. Someone who knows their way around please step up and lead a DC ride! I'd be glad to lead one in the VA-WVA twisties in return... Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_105.b63c64b.290c0708_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HOFOJOKO@XXXXXX writes:


If someone who knows the D.C. area well enough would want to lead a crew of
us (or just me),


I'm with Howard. Someone who knows their way around please step up and lead a DC ride! I'd be glad to lead one in the VA-WVA twisties in return...
Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R --part1_105.b63c64b.290c0708_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 09:10:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14603.mail.yahoo.com (web14603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9RDAKP02580 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011027131019.11615.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.40.80] by web14603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:10:19 PDT Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 06:10:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Any upcoming rides? To: Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > I think in the last 2 years since i started biking i have > over 70k on motrocycles. ricardo....if you had ridden an average of 100 miles per day for 700 straight days, you would flat out KNOW it. be honest with us. some of the most ambitious riders on this list have ridden less in this same time frame (including myself, with MAYBE 40k). the next weekend day that the temp hits 65 degrees, i'll be happy to do this 33-[]-219-50 loop with you. fellow lister glenn dysart and i attempted a similar loop this summer, but we ran out of time and had to cut it short. have you calculated the mileage on street atlas??? -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 09:56:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from itxf2aln09.vfc.com (itxf2aln09.vfc.com [167.64.48.46]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RDu5P03314 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:56:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Bike Alarms To: bob@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: Kevin_Hawkins@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 09:51:19 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on ITXF2ALN09/InternetMail(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 10/27/2001 09:55:53 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.aritronix.com/ Scorpio Alarm! I've had one on my GTS1000 for about 8 years now and it's performed flawlessly. Kevin Hawkins kevin_hawkins@XXXXXX http://www.freecfm.com/r/raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 //'93 Yamaha GTS1000 //'85 FZ750 Given that someone tried to steal my bike this week, I'm considering adding an alarm. I recall putting a Cobra alarm on one of my bikes years ago, and finding it pretty unreliable. Does anyone have any fairly recent experience with motorcycle alarms? Good or bad? Preferably one with a paging system/ Thanks, Bob Meyer From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 11:08:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.147]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RF8YP04564 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RichardSperry ([24.23.45.126]) by femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20011027150823.JBDO661.femail22.sdc1.sfba.home.com@RichardSperry> for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:08:23 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01c15ef9$682976a0$7e2d1718@hwrd1.md.home.com> From: "Richard Sperry" To: Subject: Times square, fresh air.... green acres Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:09:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 It's not just D.C. It's all cities. I noticed some interesting behavior while riding across the country last year. In the boonies, away from "cities" people were friendly, helpful and downright courteous.. They would let you merge, give directions, just sit and take... As I got closer to civilization, they got mean, nasty, and belligerent. ( Just like home...)I asked a psychologist friend about this and gave me the old too many rats in a maze theory. Rich no matter where you go... there you are! From: Troutman Subject: Re: living without cars DC being responsible for NoVA's growth is a testament to how much many people dislike cities. They will endure long commutes just to not have to live in DC. In my case, I live in the country and work in the suburbs. For me - it is the best of both worlds From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 12:41:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RGfEP05881 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-60-168.s168.tnt4.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.60.168] helo=c9rnf01) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15xWWG-0003hm-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:41:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c15f05$9ad1cb00$a83c2c42@c9rnf01> From: "Todd Peer" To: "AA DC Cycles" Subject: great DC rides Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:37:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Hey Paul, this sounds like an interesting ride. Would you be willing to set it up? I'm pretty familiar with DC streets having learned most of what I know from riding my bicycle around town. But not very savvy about the forts you are mentioning. Throw in a cool restaurant for lunch and you may have a winner here. Todd (Springfield, VA) ST1100 VTR996 From: "Paul Wilson" ..... We could do a "fort tour" too. Ride the circle of Civil War era forts that ringed the city starting with Battery Kemble above Georgetown, Fort Reno and Fort Stevens in NW and then the string in SE, ending up near St. Elizabeth's. A lot of it is a continuous parkway in SE. Yes, there are nice parts of SE. There are lots of interesting out of the way historic sites to visit, like the Frederick Douglass home in Anacostia. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 12:54:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RGs0P06114 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norc (dial096.king-george.246.crosslink.net [207.199.164.115]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with ESMTP id MAA18319 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:53:59 -0400 X-Really-To: Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011027124721.00cdc810@biga.pop.crosslink.net> X-Sender: biga@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 12:51:05 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Andrew Culpepper Subject: ZR-7S for sale? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9RGs2P06115 Hi, Anyone on the list thinking about selling one? If so, please contact me. Thanks, Andrew M-$M-:M-0`M-0M-:M-$M-x,M-8M-8,M-xM-$M-:M-0`M-0M-:M-$M-xM-$M-:M-0`M-0M-:M-$M-x,M-8M-8,M-xM-$M-:M-0`M-0M-:M-$M-xM-$M-:M-0`M-0M-:M-$M-x,M-8M-8,M-xM-$M-:M-0`M-0M-:M-$M-x J. Andrew Culpepper ..... King George, VA ..... (540) 775-3984 '90 EX500 ..... MGNOC 15488 ..... GTOC 81115821 ..... AMA 304533 From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 14:31:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11005.mail.yahoo.com (web11005.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.55]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9RIVWP07578 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 14:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20011027183131.72268.qmail@web11005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.59.120.202] by web11005.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:31:31 PDT Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:31:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Davison, Scott" Subject: karting tonight To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all. I think I'm gonna go karting tonight with whoever shows up. Since I dont know any of you though, just look for the dork in the S&M bikes hat. Seeya there. Well, actually karts don't have mirrors, so I may NOT see you. hehe scott ===== www.throttlegrip.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 16:35:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RKZIP09356 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXPxK/ec5LQUUCY27oQprdBADOWyLqcKXJg=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GJSLX9X8; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:34:02 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:20:14 -0400 Subject: MARRC Events This Month - Vote for Awards - Video Night - Work Day - Turkey Bowl Message-ID: <20011027.162926.-220501.2.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-4,10-11,19-20,23-24,26-27,29-30,32-35 From: Tom Fitzpatrick MARRC Events This Month - Vote for Awards - Video Night - Work Day - Turkey Bowl All information available on http://www.marrc.org *Voting* is underway for the awards bestowed by MARRC members upon MARRC members at the annual awards banquet. You can vote on-line at the MARRC web site, http://www.marrc.org, or by mail, or at the November 10 video night. These are YOUR awards, so be sure to vote. You can join MARRC up to and including at Video Night and therefore be eligible to vote for and receive awards. *Video Night* is an annual favorite, where the accomplishments and memories of the season just concluded begin to take on dimensions only possible through the creative and wishful thinking of the off-season. Lying - no, just fond memories. It's Saturday, November 10th, at Latella's in the Jessup, MD, area. 7-11pm, and then retreat to the bar next door. Pizza soft drinks and beer. MARRC members get in free or $10 for non-members, or join at the door ($20) and get in free. Info at, you guessed it, http://www.marrc.org *MARRC work day*, to put up the MARRC equipment for a long winters sleep next Saturday, November 3rd, 10:00am at Summit Point. Check with Howard Weiss popdocpop@XXXXXX, information at http://www.marrc.org One final item, the *Turkey Bowl* (4 wheel event for those who are interested) will take place on Nov. 23-24-25 (Thanksgiving weekend). If you are interested is seeing some incredible cars from the 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's and more current machines, contact Howard Weiss (popdocpop@XXXXXX) or Chris Ford (christopher.ford@XXXXXX) for more information. Thanks, Tom From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 18:33:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com [207.46.181.78]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RMXfP10935 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:33:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.44.250.119]) by cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:32:48 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" , "Tom Gimer" Subject: RE: Any upcoming rides? Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:34:13 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20011027131019.11615.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2001 22:32:48.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E65D0E0:01C15F37] --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > I think in the last 2 years since i started biking i have > over 70k on motrocycles. ricardo....if you had ridden an average of 100 miles per day for 700 straight days, you would flat out KNOW it. be honest with us. some of the most ambitious riders on this list have ridden less in this same time frame (including myself, with MAYBE 40k). Tom, maybe im exagerating, 42k mi on my tiger, 10k miles on my r1, 6k mi on my ke100. Oh well, the milage is not really important. But i do have some experience on motorcycles, but i would like to learn from somsone, since im completly self taught i dont have anyone that can show me if im doing it the right way. the next weekend day that the temp hits 65 degrees, i'll be happy to do this 33-[]-219-50 loop with you. fellow lister glenn dysart and i attempted a similar loop this summer, but we ran out of time and had to cut it short. have you calculated the mileage on street atlas??? Tom, i just came back from seneca rocks(Saturday). I was going to go to ElkinsWV and then come back, but it started snowing, i managed to get the r1 to seneca rocks and that was it, it was freezing and my widder electric vest and arm chaps was not really helping. I did this loop on my tiger a little while when i actually bought it, around November, and it took quite a bit of time. Its always cold in the mountains so bring some warm clothes, im thinking of selling my electric vest and buying some gerbing electric clothing(they are better). Front front royal, south on 340, 33 west, north on 219, west on 50 until 81 is 295 miles( a bit more). Since its pretty twisty it takes a while. Tom, what bike are you riding? I have also done a loop to the new river gorge, that was pretty nice(the area where it is), but it was mostly highway miles which i am trying to avoid. Ricardo Pontes From dc-cycles-request Sat Oct 27 18:38:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com [207.46.181.87]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9RMc0P11013 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from computer ([63.44.250.119]) by cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Sat, 27 Oct 2001 15:37:10 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" , "matthew patton" Subject: RE: Any upcoming rides? Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 18:38:36 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20011027133144.66731.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2001 22:37:11.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB01AC80:01C15F37] Why isnt your trident ready? Something wrong with it? I bought my r1 about 3 months ago, today i have 10k on it. I think its quite a bit. But i really like riding, the triumph is much nicer to ride as far as comfort goes. There are turns around here labeled 25mph, and on my tiger i can take them faster than on my r1, shouldnt that be the opposite? I mean the r1 is a sportbike capapble of going faster through turns right? How many miles do you have on your trident? Im hoping to do this ride next weekend, Tom Gimer(dc list member) will ride if it gets to 65 degrees which it should next weekend. Are you up to it? If so, from front royal south on 340, until 33 west, north on 219, east on 50 to 81 is around 265 miles. For me it would be an additional 180 miles roundtrip home (i think). Whats VIR? Ricardo -----Original Message----- From: matthew patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 9:32 AM To: Ricardo Pontes Subject: Re: Any upcoming rides? and when were you planning to do this? pity my Trident isn't ready for the road or we could have a Triumph fest. you have that many miles? wow. I did 27k in my first year but now my commute is a lot shorter... track time and schools are a good thing. highly recommend CLASS. I'm taking the VIR session next spring. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 28 09:11:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13004.mail.yahoo.com (web13004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.14]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9SEB0P24146 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:11:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011028141058.58183.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.78.130.111] by web13004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 06:10:58 PST Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 06:10:58 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Purdy Subject: Re: Valve adjustments To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011026174041.16645.qmail@web14608.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I own a 2000 Yamaha V-Star Classic. BTW: I checked the manual and it says to check and adjust the valve clearance every time you change the oil (which it lists at 4000 mile intervals) Jeremy --- Tom Gimer wrote: > to answer these questions we need to know what kind > of > motorcycle you own > > if your manual says every 6k, you must own a > pre-2000 > ducati superbike??? > > > > --- Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > What's the general consensus on how often to have > > valve adjustments done? > > > > I think my owner's manual says every 6000 (I'll > have > > to check). I've heard of people who do it every > year. > > My brother (don't ask me why I actually listen to > his > > opinion) said he used to do it "when it needed > it", he > > never did tell me how he figured out when it > needed it > > though. > > > > What is the expected cost of a valve adjustment? > > > > Jeremy > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 28 09:24:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9SEOQP24356 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-114.patriot.net [209.249.180.114]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9SEOMi05488; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:24:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDC1397.8AC5B26@patriot.net> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:17:59 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Purdy CC: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Valve adjustments References: <20011028141058.58183.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit EVERY 4,000 MILES!!! Good grief, it's times like these when riding an archaic machine with hydraulic tappets feels oh-so-good. Bill Jeremy Purdy wrote: > I own a 2000 Yamaha V-Star Classic. > > BTW: I checked the manual and it says to check and > adjust the valve clearance every time you change the > oil (which it lists at 4000 mile intervals) > > Jeremy > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > to answer these questions we need to know what kind > > of > > motorcycle you own > > > > if your manual says every 6k, you must own a > > pre-2000 > > ducati superbike??? > > > > > > > > --- Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > > What's the general consensus on how often to have > > > valve adjustments done? > > > > > > I think my owner's manual says every 6000 (I'll > > have > > > to check). I've heard of people who do it every > > year. > > > My brother (don't ask me why I actually listen to > > his > > > opinion) said he used to do it "when it needed > > it", he > > > never did tell me how he figured out when it > > needed it > > > though. > > > > > > What is the expected cost of a valve adjustment? > > > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > > http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 28 11:13:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14603.mail.yahoo.com (web14603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9SGD7P25823 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:13:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011028161306.83521.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.40.80] by web14603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:13:06 PST Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:13:06 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Valve adjustments To: Jeremy Purdy , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011028141058.58183.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii wow. 4000 mile intervals. i imagine the bike is designed so that this is a simple task (and for your sake i hope it is). --- Jeremy Purdy wrote: > I own a 2000 Yamaha V-Star Classic. > > BTW: I checked the manual and it says to check and > adjust the valve clearance every time you change the > oil (which it lists at 4000 mile intervals) > > Jeremy > > --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > to answer these questions we need to know what kind > > of > > motorcycle you own > > > > if your manual says every 6k, you must own a > > pre-2000 > > ducati superbike??? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 28 11:21:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14610.mail.yahoo.com (web14610.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.242]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9SGLQP25986 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 11:21:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011028162125.33400.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.40.80] by web14610.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:21:25 PST Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:21:25 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Any upcoming rides? To: Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > ----tg wrote: > > > >the next weekend day that the temp hits 65 degrees, i'll > >be happy to do this 33-[]-219-50 loop with you. fellow > >lister glenn dysart and i attempted a similar loop this > >summer, but we ran out of time and had to cut it short. > >have you calculated the mileage on street atlas??? > > > Tom, i just came back from seneca rocks(Saturday). I was > going to go to ElkinsWV and then come back, but it > started snowing, i managed to get the r1 to seneca rocks > and that was it, it was freezing and my widder electric > vest and arm chaps was not really helping. I did this > loop on my tiger a little while when i actually bought > it, around November, and it took quite a bit of > time. Its always cold in the mountains so bring some warm > clothes, im thinking of selling my electric vest and > buying some gerbing electric clothing(they are better). > Front front royal, south on 340, 33 west, north > on 219, west on 50 until 81 is 295 miles( a bit more). > Since its pretty twisty it takes a while. i ride out in wva all the time, so i'll be ready. this loop will be 400+, as we'll start from marshall, va (rt. 17, exit 28 off of 66w) and head southwest through washington, va and across the first hills on 211. we'll do this on the first saturday with a good forecast....leaving marshall at approx. 9am > Tom, what bike are you riding? ducati 996 > I have also done a loop to the new river gorge, that was > pretty nice(the area where it is), but it was mostly > highway miles which i am trying to avoid. i've got plenty of loops planned.... but we'll do yours next -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 28 12:23:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11004.mail.yahoo.com (web11004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.54]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9SHN7P26828 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 12:23:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011028172301.74807.qmail@web11004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [207.172.11.150] by web11004.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:23:01 PST Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 09:23:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Davison, Scott" Subject: OT: karting 10/28 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey, nice meeting you guys. Karting was really fun, I like that track. Actually, I can't wait to go back. Hopefully more people from the list will show up! I put up a pic in my temp file called karters.jpg, just follow the url in my sig. Or if you're impatient go to http://users.starpower.net/scott.d/temp/karters.jpg Anyway, seeya soon! Scott ===== www.throttlegrip.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 28 14:44:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9SJiUP28759 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 14:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from 66-44-50-12.s12.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.50.12] helo=66.44.117.173) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15xvrA-0003mP-00; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 14:44:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDC4E07.3885@starpower.net> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:27:19 -0400 From: Paul Wilson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-SP32599 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: AA DC Cycles Subject: Re: great DC rides References: <000901c15f05$9ad1cb00$a83c2c42@c9rnf01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > > Hey Paul, this sounds like an interesting ride. Would you be willing to set > it up? I'm pretty familiar with DC streets having learned most of what I > know from riding my bicycle around town. But not very savvy about the forts > you are mentioning. Throw in a cool restaurant for lunch and you may have a > winner here. > > Todd (Springfield, VA) > ST1100 > VTR996 > OK, you've got yourself a deal. I rode part of the route I have in mind yesterday. I can't do it next weekend (I'm teaching the MSF course) but I can do it either Sat. 11/10 or the afternoon of 11/11. We could find a nice lunch spot somewhere in the city. I'm thinking about starting in Georgetown, a big circle through NW, NE and SE and ending up in downtown, Dupont Circle or Adams Morgan for lunch. I doubt we'll travel at more than 40 mph during the whole ride, so low temps will not be a big consideration. YMMV getting to the launching point. Hot spots include Rock Creek Park, Ft. Stevens (site of a Civil War skirmish inside the D of C), Ft. Dupont in SE, Anacostia waterfront and buzzing the Mall. Paul in DC 95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Sun Oct 28 20:16:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9T1G9P25843 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 20:16:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id m.108.79b4ed7 (4534); Sun, 28 Oct 2001 20:15:55 -0500 (EST) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <108.79b4ed7.290e07cb@aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 20:15:55 EST Subject: Re: great DC rides To: pawilson@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_108.79b4ed7.290e07cb_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 --part1_108.79b4ed7.290e07cb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > OK, you've got yourself a deal. I rode part of the route I have in mind > yesterday. I can't do it next weekend (I'm teaching the MSF course) but > I can do it either Sat. 11/10 or the afternoon of 11/11. We could find > a nice lunch spot somewhere in the city. Excellent Paul! My vote is for Sunday the 11th...can't make it on the 10th. Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_108.79b4ed7.290e07cb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pawilson@XXXXXX writes:


OK, you've got yourself a deal.  I rode part of the route I have in mind
yesterday.  I can't do it next weekend (I'm teaching the MSF course) but
I can do it either Sat. 11/10 or the afternoon of 11/11.  We could find
a nice lunch spot somewhere in the city. 


Excellent Paul! My vote is for Sunday the 11th...can't make it on the 10th.

Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R --part1_108.79b4ed7.290e07cb_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 08:09:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from atlantic.va.grci.com (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [199.89.132.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TD8wP06718 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:08:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from kkightlylt (dtd118.va.grci.com [198.22.152.118]) by atlantic.va.grci.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f9TD8qp30238 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:08:52 -0500 From: "kkightly" To: Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 10/28/01 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:04:53 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c1607a$4d50c4a0$769816c6@va.grci.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <200110290000.f9T00CQ24731@dirty.meretrix.com> ALL, The inside the beltway run-around sounds great. Let's show them folks there are other bikes out there other than Harley's!! Adams Morgan for lunch, should e a HOOT! K2 95 Kawi Concours From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 08:10:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TDA5P06731 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:10:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id IAA15459; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:10:04 -0500 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <000b01c1607a$fcb23aa0$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> Reply-To: "Danny Thompson" From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" , Subject: Massaponax Trails Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:09:48 -0500 Organization: LHS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Does anyone know anything about this place? Is it a legal riding area? How many miles, etc. Thanks, Danny '02 XR 250R '00 SV (racebike) '98 Superhawk '00 Shadow Ace Tourer PS. Anyone up for an afternoon ride here Tues and/or Wed. 12:00 till 2:00 or 3:00? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 10/26/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 08:26:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ddlexchange.ddlomni.com ([204.245.128.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TDQvP06946 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from jstrang ([204.245.128.170]) by ddlexchange.ddlomni.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:15:53 -0500 From: "Jon Strang" To: , Subject: RE: living without cars--- great DC rides Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:25:23 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C16053.412A0730" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-reply-to: <14e.318c892.290b603e@aol.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2001 13:15:53.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[D6150430:01C1607B] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C16053.412A0730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am very interested. --jon 01 Suz Bandit 1200 -----Original Message----- From: SBave@XXXXXX [mailto:SBave@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:57 PM To: lantech@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: living without cars--- great DC rides lantech@XXXXXX writes: I'd be glad to give a tour around DC! Schedule one! :) Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C16053.412A0730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am=20 very interested.
 
--jon
 
01 Suz=20 Bandit 1200
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From: SBave@XXXXXX=20 [mailto:SBave@XXXXXX]
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lantech@XXXXXX=20 writes:


I'd be glad to give a tour around = DC!

Schedule=20 one!  :)
Steve Broadstreet
01=20 ZX-9R
 ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C16053.412A0730-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 08:36:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TDaQP07163 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:36:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:35:04 -0500 Message-Id: <200110290835.AA1272709176@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: Re: good CD-Extractor? and Achos mp3 player review. X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Cliff Zigmond" >There is a quicker way to change the volume. Hold down the ON button while >pressing + or -. It works much better than scrolling thru the menus. The thing is, that takes two hands - or two coordinated fingers. I found changing the Archos' volume, even with gloves on, to be do-able with three button pushes: 1. Menu button 2. Play/Go Forward button 3. + or - to increase or decrease the volume Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 08:43:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TDh2P07303 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id IAA04492 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:43:01 -0500 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <004001c1607f$97753ac0$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> Reply-To: "Danny Thompson" From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Subject: Congrats! Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:42:45 -0500 Organization: LHS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Congratulations are in order for the following local racers who competed in Daytona last week: Steve Keener - Expert GT Lights 1st Place Bernie Huntt - Expert GT Lights 3rd Place Grady Anderson - Amateur GT Lights 4th Place Danny '02 XR 250R '00 SV (racebike) '98 Superhawk '00 Shadow Ace Tourer --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 10/26/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 08:54:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13001.mail.yahoo.com (web13001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9TDsEP07487 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:54:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011029135412.85671.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.101.4.236] by web13001.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 05:54:12 PST Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 05:54:12 -0800 (PST) From: Jeremy Purdy Subject: Re: Valve adjustments To: "William J. Huson" Cc: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3BDC1397.8AC5B26@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I completely agree. I wanted a bike with hydraulic valves. Unfortunately, I also wanted a mid-size cruiser with a shaft. I have not found any bike which meets all of those criteria, so I compromised. The original question was, however, do I really need to adjust the valves as often as the manual says or is there some way that I can tell when the bike actually needs an adjustment? This is my first bike and I am trying to learn how to do the maintenance myself, so I was looking for some advice from more experienced riders. Jeremy --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > EVERY 4,000 MILES!!! Good grief, it's times like > these when riding an > archaic machine with hydraulic tappets feels > oh-so-good. > > Bill > > Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > > I own a 2000 Yamaha V-Star Classic. > > > > BTW: I checked the manual and it says to check and > > adjust the valve clearance every time you change > the > > oil (which it lists at 4000 mile intervals) > > > > Jeremy > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 09:06:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TE6oP07749 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:06:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA03147 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:02:13 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:02:08 -0500 (EST) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Good news from Speedvision Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII http://speedvision01.e-media.com/pub/articles/racing/08inews/011027b.html Hugh From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 09:14:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay3.softcomca.com ([168.144.1.70]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TEE6P07846 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from M2W056 ([168.144.108.56]) by relay3.softcomca.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:13:58 -0500 X-Originating-IP: 206.20.132.104 X-URL: http://www.mail2web.com/ Subject: RE: Good news from Speedvision Sender: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:13:29 -0500 To: "hcaldwell@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailer: JMail 3.7.0 by Dimac (www.dimac.net) Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2001 14:13:58.0501 (UTC) FILETIME=[F37B4950:01C16083] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from Quoted-Printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9TEEDP07847 Good news indeed! Now let's hope that their scheduling in 2002 will at least resemble 2001. Hopefully all the "good stuff" won't be at 2am! Original Message: ----------------- From: hcaldwell hcaldwell@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:02:08 -0500 (EST) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Good news from Speedvision http://speedvision01.e-media.com/pub/articles/racing/08inews/011027b.html Hugh -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 09:17:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp02.wcom.com (pmesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.20.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TEHPP07934 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgismtp03.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.143]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #42257) with ESMTP id <0GLZ00FMN0ZWGJ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:16:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp03.wcomnet.com by dgismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GLZ000010ZVS0@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:16:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chan3544t ([166.36.153.47]) by dgismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GLZ00LKG0ZE0H@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:16:26 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:15:51 -0500 From: Robert Verde Subject: [Non-moto} Question about domain hosting To: "DC Cycles (E-mail)" Reply-to: c-Robert.Verde@XXXXXX Message-id: <002701c16084$3704b710$2f9924a6@wcomnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal The recent posts on dial-up access reminded me; are there any list recommendations for a good no-frills domain hosting service? I currently pay about $75 per month to have three domains hosted with one e-mail account (and some web space, not used) per domain. Since these are vanity/personal addresses, I'd appreciate any leads on a decent, cheap hosting service, ideally one that allows me to set up and manage my own e-mail accounts. Thanks for all replies, Robert Verde 83 Honda Interceptor "BUDOKA" From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 09:27:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TER0P08045 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:27:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-127.patriot.net [209.249.180.127]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9TEQui05242; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:26:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDD65B1.9167B916@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:20:34 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeremy Purdy CC: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Valve adjustments References: <20011029135412.85671.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So you got the shaft! har har har. I prefer belt drive, no oil to mess with. Solid lifter valves sould make a ticcing sound. I recall all of my `Murica V-8 engines with solid lifters going ticca-ticca-ticca even when in adjustment, and TICCA-TICCA-TICCA when a bit loose. A judgement call. Really sloppy valves would show up in a slight loss of power. Best to do ythe feeler guage thang for the first couple checks. My ol' Suzuki with OHC and shims inna bucket recommended 4K checks. I did one at 6K, took a peek 6K later (no adjustment needed) and never touched them again. Bill Jeremy Purdy wrote: > I completely agree. I wanted a bike with hydraulic > valves. Unfortunately, I also wanted a mid-size > cruiser with a shaft. I have not found any bike which > meets all of those criteria, so I compromised. > > The original question was, however, do I really need > to adjust the valves as often as the manual says or is > there some way that I can tell when the bike actually > needs an adjustment? > > This is my first bike and I am trying to learn how to > do the maintenance myself, so I was looking for some > advice from more experienced riders. > > Jeremy > > --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > > EVERY 4,000 MILES!!! Good grief, it's times like > > these when riding an > > archaic machine with hydraulic tappets feels > > oh-so-good. > > > > Bill > > > > Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > > > > I own a 2000 Yamaha V-Star Classic. > > > > > > BTW: I checked the manual and it says to check and > > > adjust the valve clearance every time you change > > the > > > oil (which it lists at 4000 mile intervals) > > > > > > Jeremy > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 09:28:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11106.mail.yahoo.com (web11106.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.153]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9TESsP08119 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:28:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011029142847.59782.qmail@web11106.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11106.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 06:28:47 PST Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 06:28:47 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: [Non-moto} Question about domain hosting To: c-Robert.Verde@XXXXXX, "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" In-Reply-To: <002701c16084$3704b710$2f9924a6@wcomnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You could try Yahoo. They have a service called YahooDomains (I think) that's reasonable and has all the web-based tools you need to manage the domain. It's what I used to build dccycles.com before it was migrated over to Mike Troutman's server. Chris Weaver --- Robert Verde wrote: > The recent posts on dial-up access reminded me; are > there any list > recommendations for a good no-frills domain hosting > service? I currently pay > about $75 per month to have three domains hosted > with one e-mail account (and > some web space, not used) per domain. > > Since these are vanity/personal addresses, I'd > appreciate any leads on a decent, > cheap hosting service, ideally one that allows me to > set up and manage my own > e-mail accounts. > > Thanks for all replies, > > Robert Verde > > > 83 Honda Interceptor "BUDOKA" > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 09:44:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TEi7P08373 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from 66-44-116-250.s250.tnt10.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.116.250] helo=palladio1) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15yDe1-0004AF-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:44:06 -0500 Message-ID: <013301c16088$7fe7c900$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: References: <20011029135412.85671.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> <3BDD65B1.9167B916@patriot.net> Subject: Re: Valve adjustments Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:40:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I can't imagine it's that hard on a twin cruiser. I did the VFR's valves a month ago. 16 of those critters, not to mention Tupperware, gas tank and radiator removal. The VFR's shim under bucket makes it even more fun; you need to remove the cams and pull off the buckets just to find out what shims you need. Luckily mine were all in spec. The VFR is only scheduled to receive clearance check every 16k miles, thank goodness. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Huson" > So you got the shaft! har har har. I prefer belt drive, no oil to mess > with. > > Solid lifter valves sould make a ticcing sound. I recall all of my > `Murica V-8 engines with solid lifters going ticca-ticca-ticca even when > in adjustment, and TICCA-TICCA-TICCA when a bit loose. A judgement > call. Really sloppy valves would show up in a slight loss of power. > Best to do ythe feeler guage thang for the first couple checks. > > My ol' Suzuki with OHC and shims inna bucket recommended 4K checks. I > did one at 6K, took a peek 6K later (no adjustment needed) and never > touched them again. > > Bill > > Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > > I completely agree. I wanted a bike with hydraulic > > valves. Unfortunately, I also wanted a mid-size > > cruiser with a shaft. I have not found any bike which > > meets all of those criteria, so I compromised. > > > > The original question was, however, do I really need > > to adjust the valves as often as the manual says or is > > there some way that I can tell when the bike actually > > needs an adjustment? > > > > This is my first bike and I am trying to learn how to > > do the maintenance myself, so I was looking for some > > advice from more experienced riders. > > > > Jeremy > > > > --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > > > EVERY 4,000 MILES!!! Good grief, it's times like > > > these when riding an > > > archaic machine with hydraulic tappets feels > > > oh-so-good. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > > > > > > I own a 2000 Yamaha V-Star Classic. > > > > > > > > BTW: I checked the manual and it says to check and > > > > adjust the valve clearance every time you change > > > the > > > > oil (which it lists at 4000 mile intervals) > > > > > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 09:58:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h000.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.114]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9TEwbP08616 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (cpmta 6847 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2001 06:58:27 -0800 Received: from 170.252.3.2 (HELO truck.lemrow.com) by smtp.lemrow.com (209.228.32.114) with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 06:58:27 -0800 X-Sent: 29 Oct 2001 14:58:27 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011029094718.01fd9418@mail.lemrow.com> X-Sender: firblt@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:49:35 -0500 To: c-Robert.Verde@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Justin Lemrow Subject: Re: [Non-moto} Question about domain hosting In-Reply-To: <002701c16084$3704b710$2f9924a6@wcomnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Robert, www.featureprice.com has the best rates i've seen anywhere and a great service. Their customer svs dept is also really good. the only "catch" (and if you read the desc they tell you) is they bill annually, which isn't the greatest, but oh well. FYI, their most expensive plan (unlimited) is 1/3 what you're paying now and you can manage up to six domains. Cheers, Justin, not affiliated with, blah blah blah, just like good deals At 09:15 AM 10/29/2001 -0500, you wrote: >The recent posts on dial-up access reminded me; are there any list >recommendations for a good no-frills domain hosting service? I currently pay >about $75 per month to have three domains hosted with one e-mail account (and >some web space, not used) per domain. 1999 VFR 800 Northern VA/Washington DC From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 10:41:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TFfMP09219 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:41:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id KAA11773 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:41:18 -0500 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <00d001c16090$1daf9d50$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> Reply-To: "Danny Thompson" From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Subject: More Congrats! Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:41:02 -0500 Organization: LHS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Congrats also go out to: RANDY NUSBAUM - 6th Middleweight Sportsman, 7th Amateur Lightweight Superbike (on an old Harley 1200 no less!) STEVE KEENER- 3rd Expert Lightweight Superbike, 6th Expert Lightweight Grand Prix BERNIE HUNTT- 6th Expert Lightweight Superbike, 3rd Heavyweight Sportsman GRADY ANDERSON- 4th Amateur GT Lights --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 10/26/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 10:53:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TFrTP09432 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:53:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4GV0VMVT>; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:53:19 -0500 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E1C5@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: oil question Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:53:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I know this one is going to cause a tizzy, but I have what I hope to be a legitimate issue. I'm looking to try synthetic oil in my F3. I am trying to find a source for synthetic motorcycle specific oil. I would be willing to try automotive grade, but I can't find any that isn't marked as "energy saving" with the unwanted additives for motorcycle transmissions. I tried Kmart, Pep Boys, Trak Auto and even Patriot HD; so far the only source has been Powerride but they want almost $9.50 a quart. Any ideas as to where to go? I can't believe Powerride is a the price leader in any product category so I'm assuming that this stuff can be found cheaper elsewhere. Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 Annandale, VA From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 10:54:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp02.wcom.com (dgesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.16.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TFsIP09443 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.38]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42261) with ESMTP id <0GLZ00K9R5I9Q4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:54:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp03.wcomnet.com by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GLZ000015FXXM@XXXXXX>; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:54:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GLZ00N8J5FS4Q@XXXXXX>; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 15:52:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:52:15 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Valve adjustments To: Jeremy Purdy Cc: "William J. Huson" , Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3BDD7B2F.5167F90E@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20011029135412.85671.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > I completely agree. I wanted a bike with hydraulic > valves. Unfortunately, I also wanted a mid-size > cruiser with a shaft. I have not found any bike which > meets all of those criteria, so I compromised. Kawi 750 Vulcan? -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 10:59:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TFxiP09532 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id KAA24882 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:59:43 -0500 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <00e401c16092$aff0cc50$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E1C5@NCEAEXCHANGE> Subject: Re: oil question Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 10:59:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Cedric, The local Walmart here in Warrenton sells 15-50 Mobil 1 for $18 in the 5 quart jug. I bought 10 to stock up. Try Walmart. Danny ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 10:53 AM Subject: oil question > I know this one is going to cause a tizzy, but I have what I hope to be a > legitimate issue. I'm looking to try synthetic oil in my F3. I am trying > to find a source for synthetic motorcycle specific oil. I would be willing > to try automotive grade, but I can't find any that isn't marked as "energy > saving" with the unwanted additives for motorcycle transmissions. I tried > Kmart, Pep Boys, Trak Auto and even Patriot HD; so far the only source has > been Powerride but they want almost $9.50 a quart. Any ideas as to where to > go? I can't believe Powerride is a the price leader in any product category > so I'm assuming that this stuff can be found cheaper elsewhere. > Cedric > 1996 CBR600F3 > Annandale, VA > > > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 10/26/01 From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 11:02:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13303.mail.yahoo.com (web13303.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9TG2rP09604 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:02:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011029160248.40735.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [159.40.33.240] by web13303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:02:48 PST Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:02:48 -0800 (PST) From: stephen cutchins Subject: Re: oil question To: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E1C5@NCEAEXCHANGE> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Manassas Honda wants $6.50/quart for Honda HP4 synthetic. 703-361-2233 if you want to call them. BTW I bought my F4i from them, my old Hawk GT also, pretty good place. --- Cedric Bernescut wrote: > I know this one is going to cause a tizzy, but I > have what I hope to be a > legitimate issue. I'm looking to try synthetic oil > in my F3. I am trying > to find a source for synthetic motorcycle specific > oil. I would be willing > to try automotive grade, but I can't find any that > isn't marked as "energy > saving" with the unwanted additives for motorcycle > transmissions. I tried > Kmart, Pep Boys, Trak Auto and even Patriot HD; so > far the only source has > been Powerride but they want almost $9.50 a quart. > Any ideas as to where to > go? I can't believe Powerride is a the price leader > in any product category > so I'm assuming that this stuff can be found cheaper > elsewhere. > Cedric > 1996 CBR600F3 > Annandale, VA > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 11:10:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TGAYP09693 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:10:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id LAA21413; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:07:11 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from unknown(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xma020460; Mon, 29 Oct 01 11:06:39 -0500 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GLZ00N1Z65S02@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:08:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:09:33 -0500 Subject: Re: great DC rides To: pawilson@XXXXXX Cc: toddbpeer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/29/2001 11:09:49 AM Paul, I'm in. Let me know if you need any help with the planning. I think the 11th (Veteran's Day) would be a great day to enjoy the Nation's Capital. --chris Paul Wilson on 10/28/2001 02:27:19 PM To: Todd Peer cc: AA DC Cycles Subject: Re: great DC rides Todd Peer wrote: > > Hey Paul, this sounds like an interesting ride. Would you be willing to set > it up? I'm pretty familiar with DC streets having learned most of what I > know from riding my bicycle around town. But not very savvy about the forts > you are mentioning. Throw in a cool restaurant for lunch and you may have a > winner here. > > Todd (Springfield, VA) > ST1100 > VTR996 > OK, you've got yourself a deal. I rode part of the route I have in mind yesterday. I can't do it next weekend (I'm teaching the MSF course) but I can do it either Sat. 11/10 or the afternoon of 11/11. We could find a nice lunch spot somewhere in the city. I'm thinking about starting in Georgetown, a big circle through NW, NE and SE and ending up in downtown, Dupont Circle or Adams Morgan for lunch. I doubt we'll travel at more than 40 mph during the whole ride, so low temps will not be a big consideration. YMMV getting to the launching point. Hot spots include Rock Creek Park, Ft. Stevens (site of a Civil War skirmish inside the D of C), Ft. Dupont in SE, Anacostia waterfront and buzzing the Mall. Paul in DC 95 VFR ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 11:29:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web20104.mail.yahoo.com (web20104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9TGTrP10040 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:29:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011029162952.94306.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.70.107.68] by web20104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:29:52 PST Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 08:29:52 -0800 (PST) From: matthew patton Subject: Engine question. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii what happens to an engine when it spins a rod bearing? Does this mean the crank is hozed? Does it have any collateral damage to say the tranny, cylinders, etc.? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 11:38:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from x.thetouchstonegroup.com ([207.199.140.143]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TGcVP10189 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:38:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns1 ([138.238.141.74]) by x.thetouchstonegroup.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:38:26 -0500 Message-ID: <003901c16098$97419e40$4a8dee8a@winternett.com> From: "mbrodie" To: References: <200110262300.f9QN0CW17912@dirty.meretrix.com> Subject: God cd extractor..... Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 11:41:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2001 16:38:26.0913 (UTC) FILETIME=[2241FD10:01C16098] You can use any of the CD burner programs that make CDs from Mp3s to rip Mp3s off of CDs. I personally like Tunespark [http://www.tunespark.com]. It works fast and efficiently. And hey!, you can put my music [http://www.mp3.com/winterman] on your CDs! Peace Out! Winterman 2000 Yellow VFR [355/Rockville Starbucks] http://www.mp3.com/winterman From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 12:01:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from x.thetouchstonegroup.com ([207.199.140.143]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TH1WP10609 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:01:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from dns1 ([138.238.141.74]) by x.thetouchstonegroup.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.2966); Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:01:31 -0500 Message-ID: <003d01c1609b$cd489d10$4a8dee8a@winternett.com> From: "mbrodie" To: References: <200110262300.f9QN0CW17912@dirty.meretrix.com> Subject: Living in DC Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:04:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2001 17:01:31.0143 (UTC) FILETIME=[5B52B970:01C1609B] I dig living in DC, Its close to everything, I have a beautiful ride through Rock Creek park to get to Rockville, I can stumble a few blocks home after raucus club nights. I live in Petworth NW DC right next to a metro stop but I have plenty of parking for my more than large SUV right in front of my house. The mayor has turned the city around quite well, the city's action line does work very well. We do not get tornadoes, flooding, and colder temps like the suburbs do. But I have a quick hop to either VA or MD cuz i'm right in the middle. I do prefer [Rockville] MD though for restaraunts because the water is supposedly better than VA and DC. I own a 100 year old rowhouse in NW DC which feels a lot more substantial than the plywood variety homes I would have had to buy in MD or VA [based on my budget]. My property value doubled in 1&1/2 years, DC has the best property value growth in the region. I rent out 2 apartments in my house for more than enough money to pay the mortgage, SUV note, and my Bike note. Cable sux, [50$ per month] its true, unless you have a good under the table hookup [I do not]. If you live off of the main roads, you do not get bothered by ambulances & fire trucks. I park my VFR inside of my house, its the best way. The burbs are nice, for when I plan on retiring at about 40, but for now, theres nothing like livin in the city. TM2c..........................................>Winterman 2000VFR Yellow 800 2001 Toyota Sequoia Dog Yellow boxer shorts Dell PC Can of mountain dew Bootleg Busta Rhymes CD http://www.mp3.com/winterman From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 12:02:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TH22P10619 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:02:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from 66-44-112-79.s79.tnt8.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.112.79] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15yFnU-000503-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:02:01 -0500 Message-ID: <022f01c1609b$c067a5a0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F45E1C5@NCEAEXCHANGE> <00e401c16092$aff0cc50$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> Subject: Re: oil question Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:02:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Yep, I buy my Mobil 1 15W50 at Wally World, in the 5-qt. jumbo size. (Just got some at the Rt. 1/Richmond Hwy. Wal-Mart.) Unlike the Mobil 1 10W it does not carry the dreaded EC "Starburst" often credited with clutch slippage. The label says it flows down to -40 degrees F/C so it's fine for wintertime use in these parts. If it's below zero F it's "goodbye MC, hello Metro" for me. I don't think it's dipped that low in the ten years I've lived in this region. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Thompson" > Cedric, > The local Walmart here in Warrenton sells 15-50 Mobil 1 for $18 in the 5 > quart jug. I bought 10 to stock up. Try Walmart. > Danny From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 12:02:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TH24P10629 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 66-44-112-79.s79.tnt8.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.112.79] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15yFnW-000503-00; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:02:03 -0500 Message-ID: <023001c1609b$c18375e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: great DC rides Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:02:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Based on emails I've received, consensus seems to be building for a Sunday ride, instead of Sat. There are three caveats, however: 1) Saturday mornings work better for me, since I am not available to ride until noon on Sundays 2) There could be street closings for Veteran's Day events. This is one of the few holidays that has events scheduled on the actual day, rather than the "official observance" the next day. I expect this year's Veteran's Day events will have special poignancy. 3) The food portion of the ride might be better placed at the beginning of the ride rather than the end if we do it on Sunday due to a late start. I'm going to need a virtual show of hands in order to pick the day. As far as planning goes, I've got the route pretty much nailed and I rode the whole thing yesterday. About 40 miles (about 2-2.5 hours with some stops), totally inside the District, with some twisties and points of interest. We need to find a launching point (the Canal Rd. Exxon at the end of the Whitehurst Fwy. works if the group's not too large) and a lunch/brunch/snack spot, preferable with off-street parking. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:09 AM Subject: Re: great DC rides > > Paul, > > I'm in. Let me know if you need any help with the planning. I think the > 11th (Veteran's Day) would be a great day to enjoy the Nation's Capital. > > --chris From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 12:03:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13804.mail.yahoo.com (web13804.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.14]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9TH3NP10642 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:03:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011029170315.51911.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13804.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:03:15 PST Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 09:03:15 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Non-Moto: House music was God cd extractor..... To: mbrodie , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <003901c16098$97419e40$4a8dee8a@winternett.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Winterman: Amazing. Someone else who shares my two passions! VFRs and HOUSE MUSIC. I checked out your stuff and especially liked the essential house remix. Shoot me an email off-line. I am pretty far into the deep/soulful house scene here in DC. Mark --- mbrodie wrote: > You can use any of the CD burner programs that make > CDs from Mp3s to rip > Mp3s off of CDs. I personally like Tunespark > [http://www.tunespark.com]. It > works fast and efficiently. And hey!, you can put my > music > [http://www.mp3.com/winterman] on your CDs! Peace > Out! > > Winterman > 2000 Yellow VFR > [355/Rockville Starbucks] > http://www.mp3.com/winterman > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 13:17:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9TIHOP11875 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (67.161.33.71) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Oct 2001 18:17:23 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: Valve adjustments Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:16:35 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <3BDD65B1.9167B916@patriot.net> Importance: Normal My dad always thought that the less you open the engine, the better. Basically, everytime you open the head, or any other cover, you're also risking some reliability. His trick was never to check valve clearances but to rather wait to hear them knocking when out-of-spec. I must say all the cars help up really really well under this system. On the other hand, I do sometimes open the head cover to check the BMW's valve clearances. Here's a suggestion I'm not too sure about but... buy that stethoscope type device (JC Whitney has them) which instead of the little cup-piece at the end has a thin metal rod that you just prod the engine with. Check (and adjust if necessary) your valves once, close it up and listen. This will be the sound you'll grow to recognize and love. If you do this on a regular basis (once a month?) you'll be familiar with the sound and you'll notice the change when they come out of spec. Adjust immediately and you'll probably get away without damaging the valves. Now I want expert opinions on this suggestion. Thanks Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: William J. Huson [mailto:bhuson@XXXXXX] Sent: Mon, October 29, 2001 9:21 AM To: Jeremy Purdy Cc: Tom Gimer; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Valve adjustments So you got the shaft! har har har. I prefer belt drive, no oil to mess with. Solid lifter valves sould make a ticcing sound. I recall all of my `Murica V-8 engines with solid lifters going ticca-ticca-ticca even when in adjustment, and TICCA-TICCA-TICCA when a bit loose. A judgement call. Really sloppy valves would show up in a slight loss of power. Best to do ythe feeler guage thang for the first couple checks. My ol' Suzuki with OHC and shims inna bucket recommended 4K checks. I did one at 6K, took a peek 6K later (no adjustment needed) and never touched them again. Bill Jeremy Purdy wrote: > I completely agree. I wanted a bike with hydraulic > valves. Unfortunately, I also wanted a mid-size > cruiser with a shaft. I have not found any bike which > meets all of those criteria, so I compromised. > > The original question was, however, do I really need > to adjust the valves as often as the manual says or is > there some way that I can tell when the bike actually > needs an adjustment? > > This is my first bike and I am trying to learn how to > do the maintenance myself, so I was looking for some > advice from more experienced riders. > > Jeremy > > --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > > EVERY 4,000 MILES!!! Good grief, it's times like > > these when riding an > > archaic machine with hydraulic tappets feels > > oh-so-good. > > > > Bill > > > > Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > > > > I own a 2000 Yamaha V-Star Classic. > > > > > > BTW: I checked the manual and it says to check and > > > adjust the valve clearance every time you change > > the > > > oil (which it lists at 4000 mile intervals) > > > > > > Jeremy > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 13:37:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TIbNP12211 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:37:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:37:07 -0500 Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666AD96@DCHQCLEXHQ> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'peter.wimer@XXXXXX'" Subject: Winter Prep for a bike Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:39:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Peter Wimer posted wondering, " . . is there anything I should do to prepare the bike for the colder weather?" '00 Suzuki Savage After a snow, you'll be jonesing for a ride and there'll be a dusting of salt on the roads. Thus, protecting the nooks and crannies from corrosion is a Good Thing. Wash, wax as others advised, then: Squirt Boeing T (8? 9?) onto the nether regions; if you can't find the Boeing stuff, chain lube will work (No one will be peeking into the nether regions any how). Lube all cables. Lube pivot points. Don't forget, lube all cables: throttle, speedo, clutch if you have 'em.) Look at your tires. Still have $10-12 worth of tread? Is that bit of tread really worth a slip? You'll encounter some marginal traction -- even on nice days so, think about it. Mail order the tires (usually cheaper than the local stores can buy them) and mount them yourself or take a trip to Cycle Accessory Disc in Gaithersburg ($15 /wheel off the bike) Prepare yourself: Polartec fleece is a great liner. But electrics can't be beat. Search for local Gerbing dealer in Mt. Airy A neck gaiter (~$5 at REI) is great OR Overmitts (~$30 at REI) are good for drizzly days. Electric glove$ (~$120) or for the dollar-challenged, grip heaters can be had for ~$20 (pity Beemer owners) http://www.theatvstore.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=60&CATID=240&ObjectGroup_ID =1138&OBS=1&Move=Prev&count=1&Pcount=6 Windshield: Sooo n-n-nice when the temperature drops below 40F. A local (Bethesda) guy had some National's (dealer overstocks) on Ebay going for <$100 (a deal!) I have a Memphis Shades "Blade Runner" or "Santa Fe" red gradient for round head lights that I'll part with for half price ($67) Don't try this in winter: Gary McCoy riding the ragged edge. http://212.9.74.136/raceh/rh_full.jsp?IDEdition=8641&IDLanguage=4 Whoo-ah, he finished the two wheel slide with a wheelie. =8^O Carl in Bethesda Commuting into your nation's capital since 1981 through sun, rain, over snow, and around road ragers. '80 GS450E (RIP); '85 VF700S (Rocin-ahorito); '83 VF700F (666) '97 Aerostich Roadcrafter (Fred the Red) Don't need no loud pipes; I got big honking tooters: http://members.tripod.com/~v65_magna/sos_99/sat_lunch2.jpg http://www.crosswinds.net/~denbrook/Motorcycles/Events/mmc-2-17-01/Carls_Sab re.jpg From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 13:54:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from itxf2aln09.vfc.com (itxf2aln09.vfc.com [167.64.48.46]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TIsKP12479 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:54:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: Valve adjustments To: rydin@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: Kevin_Hawkins@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:49:37 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on ITXF2ALN09/InternetMail(Release 5.0.8 |June 18, 2001) at 10/29/2001 01:54:05 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ooo, bad idea. Your father assumed that all valves simply get looser when they go out of spec. Many motorcycle valves, including my ZRX1100 exhaust valves, have a tendency to get TIGHTER! In that case the knocking will only indicator a MAJOR failure! Kevin Hawkins kevin_hawkins@XXXXXX http://www.freecfm.com/r/raddboy Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 //'93 Yamaha GTS1000 //'85 FZ750 ################################### My dad always thought that the less you open the engine, the better. Basically, everytime you open the head, or any other cover, you're also risking some reliability. His trick was never to check valve clearances but to rather wait to hear them knocking when out-of-spec. I must say all the cars help up really really well under this system. On the other hand, I do sometimes open the head cover to check the BMW's valve clearances. Here's a suggestion I'm not too sure about but... buy that stethoscope type device (JC Whitney has them) which instead of the little cup-piece at the end has a thin metal rod that you just prod the engine with. Check (and adjust if necessary) your valves once, close it up and listen. This will be the sound you'll grow to recognize and love. If you do this on a regular basis (once a month?) you'll be familiar with the sound and you'll notice the change when they come out of spec. Adjust immediately and you'll probably get away without damaging the valves. Now I want expert opinions on this suggestion. Thanks Niv BMW F650ST From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 13:56:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp02.wcom.com (dgesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.16.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TIu6P12510 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmismtp02.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.37]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42261) with ESMTP id <0GLZ00L2JDXA4O@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:55:59 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp02.wcomnet.com by pmismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42259) with SMTP id <0GLZ00801DXAVY@XXXXXX>; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:55:58 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42259) with ESMTP id <0GLZ005JVDWTYR@XXXXXX>; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:55:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:55:17 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Valve adjustments To: rdrdr Cc: dc-cycles Message-id: <3BDDA615.7BFB7D2D@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: rdrdr wrote: > > My dad always thought that the less you open the engine, the better. > Basically, everytime you open the head, or any other cover, you're also > risking some reliability. His trick was never to check valve clearances but > to rather wait to hear them knocking when out-of-spec. I imagine this would be ok if the valves tend to get loose over time. But the valves on my Connie generally tend to see their clearances close up (which makes it run quieter). > I must say all the cars help up really really well under this system. On the > other hand, I do sometimes open the head cover to check the BMW's valve > clearances. This is probably the wiser way to do things. Especially on a Beemer where valve access is fairly straightforward. Hork -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 14:22:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp02.wcom.com (pmesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.20.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TJMZP12977 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmismtp02.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.37]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #42257) with ESMTP id <0GLZ00GGKF55YJ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:22:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp02.wcomnet.com by pmismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42259) with SMTP id <0GLZ00001F50AT@XXXXXX>; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:22:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42259) with ESMTP id <0GLZ0000UF4Q42@XXXXXX>; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:22:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:21:37 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: great DC rides To: Paul Wilson Cc: christopher.meier@XXXXXX, dc-cycles list Message-id: <3BDDAC41.4D062C0C@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <023001c1609b$c18375e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> Paul Wilson wrote: > > I'm going to need a virtual show of hands in order to pick the day. Now that hunting season has started, Sundays work much better for me. I have absolutely no problem meeting for lunch first and then going riding. Sounds like fun. :) Hork -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 14:24:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TJOjP13005 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.39]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GLZ000K7F92V4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:24:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GLZ00M01F8WN5@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:24:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GLZ00JJ7F8K7D@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:24:21 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:23:56 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Connie on a hunting trip To: DC Cycles List Message-id: <3BDDACCC.FC6687CB@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Hey all, Made a little discovery this weekend. Found out that the Concours performs admirably on hunting trips! :) Car in the shop, wife needed the van, so I had to manage by dismantling my shotgun, strapping it to the rear seat, and loading up all my ammo in the saddlebag. Luckily, the Connie hasenough carrying capacity for a day's worth of ammo. As an added bonus, the roads to the wildlife management area were GREAT! Fired up the electrics as it was a wee bit nippy early in the morning, but still arrived at the hunting area nice and toasty warm. Got a few odd looks from the other hunters in there 4x4s (the parking lot is down a long gravel road) but little did they know I was already having way more fun than they were. :) As for the actual hunting, well, it was a bust. Saw nothing that was moving and in season. Apparently my fat, wheezing, size 13 boot tromping woodland stalking skills need a little work. Ah, well, another challenge. Anyway, I'm just tickled that I found a safe, legal way to combine guns, bikes, and ammo in one day (and in one thread!) Ride on! Bambi season starts Nov 19th! Horkster -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 17:00:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.washcp.com (mail.washcp.com [206.239.195.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TM0tP15436 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from yiwah.washcp.com (wproc01.washcp.com [206.239.195.79]) by mail.washcp.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA26521 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:03:04 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011029170732.022b03f8@mail.washcp.com> X-Sender: yroberts@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:08:50 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Yi Wah Subject: living in the big city - car share company In-Reply-To: <200110292156.QAA26315@mail.washcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > >At 10:45 AM 10/26/2001 -0400, you wrote: >>The signal to noise ratio is unusually high this week. ISPs, Tax >>Stickers, Living without cars. Where is the thread about selling shares >>in the tire changer, or how WD-40 rusted a chain? Anyway - Paul - it is >>much easier to live in the city and go without a car than it would be in >>the suburbs/country. And I for one really hate the city. >> >>At 10:28 AM 10/26/01, Paul Wilson wrote: >>>To make a long story short: there are ways to live without personal >>>vehicles for hauling around a lot of stuff, even in car-crazy USA. >> >> >>___________________________________________ >> Mike Troutman >> http://www.troutman.org/vfr >> >> 1997 Honda VFR 750 >> AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA > From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 17:17:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.ncifcrf.gov (mail.NCIFCRF.GOV [129.43.100.100]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TMHwP15688 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:17:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from S040091 (mitko1.NCIFCRF.GOV [129.43.47.173]) by mail.ncifcrf.gov (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f9TMHvJ02441 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:17:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20011029170450.00bcab40@mail.ncifcrf.gov> X-Sender: wilsonl@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:07:46 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lori Wilson Subject: ? possible spam but worth a read Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_27487896==_.ALT" --=====================_27487896==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi All, Not sure if this is legit or not, but figured I'd pass it along in the chance that it is. ********** On the weekend of October 20th at Daytona Florida's annual Biketoberfest a very close friend of mine, his wife and 3 year old daughter witnessed a horrific bike accident. The Motorcyclist was traveling at approximately 50 miles per hour when he laid the bike down. The bike and rider tumbled sideways for quite a distance. Eventually the rider separated from the bike and was crumbled in a bloody heap. This occurred in front of a crowd of onlookers. My friend who is a highly decorated ex marine, including a purple heart recipient, in his mid 50's. Is a former member of Montauk, NY. Ambulance squad. Did not think twice of racing to render aid to the accident victim. With total disregard for himself he tried to revive the victim who had no pulse and was not breathing. After a few moments he detected a weak pulse and rattling breathing. He drew upon his knowledge both as a combat veteran and ambulance person to save the fragile life before him. He was relieved to see two officers approach him. Immediately noticing the patches on their uniforms identifying them as EMT's (Emergency Medical Technicians) . When my friend was asked "What Happened ?" he immediately gave the two individuals the status of the victim. The whole time he was reassuring the person that he would be fine. He tried to express to the officers/EMT's without alarming the victim that it was very urgent that the cyclist get medical attention or he would not make it. He asked the officers if they had a neck brace. They stated they did, but refused to get it until they found out what happened! They walked around and asked other people what had happened. Ignoring the fact that this person was extremely close to death and his fate was in their hands. The victim began to regain consciousness, gurgling blood, he tried to bring himself to a crawling position. My friend suspecting he may have a serious neck injury held him down and reassured him that help was there and he would be alright. He pleaded with the Officer /EMT's to help stabilize the victim with a collar and to get him to a Hospital. The officers became arrogant and told him to leave the victim. He questioned if they were going to help him. He was told not until we find out what happened. My friend explained he was a former Ambulance squad member and stressed the urgency of the situation. The officer turned to the other r officer and said get him out of here. At that point to the amazement and dismay of his wife and 3 year old daughter, the other police officer forcibly handcuffed and screamed for help from other officers. He was taken to jail where he was detained for Six hours and charged with several Felonies. (Resisting arrest, interfering with a police scene, assaulting an officer, etc.) None of which is true. In writing this I ask that you forward this to anyone you know. I am looking for witnesses that can help shed light on this story. Even if you don't ride Motorcycles someone you know may know someone. People travel from all over the United States to attend this event. If anyone witnessed this Please contact me: Casey Cass C/O : Montauk Boat Works P.O. Box 1222 Montauk , NY 11954 or call Toll free 877-668-BOAT Fax: 631-668-3996 Email : MontaukBoatWorks@XXXXXX Please take a moment and forward this to everyone you know! If you know a bike shop send it to them! My friend did not know the cyclist he was only trying to be a good Samaritan. Don't let this person be punished for doing a good deed. Please take the time and forward this, you could be the one that reaches the person who can help him. Thank You, Casey Cass --=====================_27487896==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi All,
Not sure if this is legit or not, but figured I'd pass it along in the chance that it is.
**********
On the weekend of October 20th at Daytona Florida's annual Biketoberfest a very close friend of mine, his wife and 3 year old daughter witnessed a horrific bike accident. The Motorcyclist was traveling at approximately 50 miles per hour when he laid the bike down. The bike and rider tumbled sideways for quite a distance. Eventually the rider separated from the bike and was crumbled in a bloody heap. This occurred in front of a crowd of onlookers.


My friend who is a highly decorated ex marine, including a purple heart recipient, in his mid 50's. Is a former member of Montauk, NY. Ambulance squad. Did not think twice of racing to render aid to the accident victim. With total disregard for himself he tried to revive the victim who had no pulse and was not breathing. After a few moments he detected a weak pulse and rattling breathing. He drew upon his knowledge both as a combat veteran and ambulance person to save the fragile life before him.

He was relieved to see two officers approach him. Immediately noticing the patches on their uniforms identifying them as EMT's (Emergency Medical Technicians) . When my friend was asked "What Happened ?" he immediately gave the two individuals the status of the victim. The whole time he was reassuring the person that he would be fine. He tried to express to the officers/EMT's without alarming the victim that it was very urgent that the cyclist get medical attention or he would not make it.
He asked the officers if they had a neck brace. They stated they did, but refused to get it until they found out what happened! They walked around and asked other people what had happened. Ignoring the fact that this person was extremely close to death and his fate was in their hands.

The victim began to regain consciousness, gurgling blood, he tried to bring himself to a crawling position. My friend suspecting he may have a serious neck injury held him down and reassured him that help was there and he would be alright. He pleaded with the Officer /EMT's to help stabilize the victim with a collar and to get him to a Hospital. The officers became arrogant and told him to leave the victim. He questioned if they were going to help him. He was told not until we find out what happened. My friend explained he was a former Ambulance squad member and stressed the urgency of the situation. The officer turned to the other r officer and said get him out of here.

At that point to the amazement and dismay of his wife and 3 year old daughter, the other police officer forcibly handcuffed and screamed for help from other officers. He was taken to jail where he was detained for Six hours and charged with several Felonies. (Resisting arrest, interfering with a police scene, assaulting an officer, etc.)
None of which is true.

In writing this I ask that you forward this to anyone you know. I am looking for witnesses that can help shed light on this story. Even if you don't ride Motorcycles someone you know may know someone. People travel from all over the United States to attend this event. If anyone witnessed this Please contact me:

Casey Cass
C/O : Montauk Boat Works
P.O. Box 1222
Montauk , NY 11954
or call Toll free 877-668-BOAT
Fax: 631-668-3996
Email : MontaukBoatWorks@XXXXXX

Please take a moment and forward this to everyone you know! If you know a bike shop send it to them! My friend did not know the cyclist he was only trying to be a good Samaritan. Don't let this person be punished for doing a good deed. Please take the time and forward this, you could be the one that reaches the person who can help him.

Thank You,

Casey Cass


--=====================_27487896==_.ALT-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 17:21:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fc.Capaccess.org (fc.capaccess.org [151.200.199.53]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TMKxP15774 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:20:59 -0500 (EST) Message-id: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:21:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Winter Prep for a bike---handgrip warmers fs To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" References: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666AD96@DCHQCLEXHQ> In-Reply-To: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666AD96@DCHQCLEXHQ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a couple for sale (Mt Pleasant, DC). These fit inside tubular handlebars. They require 1 or 2 small holes be drilled for wire exit. Time-to-install is about an hour. Mine has been reliable (other than a plastic toggle switch that broke after 2 years), but takes around 10 minutes to warm up. Not as good as electric gloves, but not bad for $20. --garcia "If your eye falls on a bargain, pick it up." From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 17:23:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com [207.46.181.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TMNbP15792 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:23:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from computer ([63.22.11.206]) by cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:23:36 -0800 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: FORSALE: Joe Rocket Tahoe Jacket Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:24:22 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2001 22:23:36.0797 (UTC) FILETIME=[5A4F80D0:01C160C8] Im selling my Joe Rocket tahoe jacket. XL, it is black and grey. Very comfortable jacket, it has back armor, elbow armor andshoulder armor. It has the most pockets i have seen in a motorcycle jacket. It is cordura. Its in good shape, there are a few buttons that fell off, 2 i think, but they can be stitched on.It has 2 air vents in the front and 1 larger zipper in the back as an exhaust. Its got a liner got reenforced kevlar shoulders and elbows. Im asking 170$ for it. I bought it for 330$ i think Ricardo Pontes From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 17:37:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com [207.46.181.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TMbHP16017 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:37:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from computer ([63.44.251.9]) by cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:36:26 -0800 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: Forsale: Joe Rocket Sonic jacket for sale Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:38:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2001 22:36:27.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[25B713E0:01C160CA] Im selling my leather 1.4mm joe rocket jacket. It is all black and looks great. It has 2 zipper in the arm for air, and 2 in the back for exhaust. Its a great jacket, but i want to upgrade to the speedmaster cause i want a full circumference zipper. The sonic jacket has a 8 inch zipper to attach to pants.It has armor inserts for additional armor. I bought it about 2 months ago. Sonic Jacket Men's Sport Leather Jacket 1.4mm Cowhide High Density Padding in Shoulders, Elbows/Forearms and Spine Removable Insulated Full Sleeve Liner Sure-FitM-^Y Adjustable Waistband Variable-FlowM-^YVentilation System 8" Rear Zipper for Pant Attachment Pockets for Optional Body Armor Available in Perforated *Black/Perforated version not available with zipper controlled "variable flow" vent system Im asking 220$ for it. Ricardo From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 18:23:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TNNXP16668 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:23:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-86.patriot.net [209.249.180.86]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9TNNUt25039; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:23:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDDE372.6B87B478@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:17:06 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matthew patton CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Engine question. References: <20011029162952.94306.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Probably no collateral damage unless it was spitting off piecey-parts before grinding to a halt. Figure the rod and crank journal are toast. Some bike cranks are pressed and the journal can be replaced. Plan B: if the damage is light and bearings are available in under/oversize the crank can be ground, rod as well. Bill matthew patton wrote: > what happens to an engine when it spins a rod bearing? > Does this mean the crank is hozed? Does it have any > collateral damage to say the tranny, cylinders, etc.? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 18:24:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TNOXP16678 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-86.patriot.net [209.249.180.86]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9TNOUt25224; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:24:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDDE3AE.4EDD5560@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:18:06 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: matthew patton CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Engine question. References: <20011029162952.94306.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On second thought, if the spun bearing cut off oil to other journals, the whole dern crank could be junk. Bill matthew patton wrote: > what happens to an engine when it spins a rod bearing? > Does this mean the crank is hozed? Does it have any > collateral damage to say the tranny, cylinders, etc.? > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 18:36:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9TNaIP16927 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-86.patriot.net [209.249.180.86]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9TNaFt27619; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:36:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDDE66F.166CEB5@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:29:51 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rdrdr CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Valve adjustments References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An old trick - I use a rod of almost any description to *listen* to the engine inards - big wood dowel, breaker bar, etc etc. But as someone pointed out, listening for a louder tapping before bothering to adjust valves may not work. Works real good with OHV pushrod/rocker valve systems. Bad idea for OHC shim inna bucket systems because those clearances get tighter, not looser. The valves sink into the aluminum head, very noticably over the first 500 or 600 miles, thusly closing down the clearance and resulting in less noise, or no noise and eventually burning the poopy out of the valves and head. Bill rdrdr wrote: > My dad always thought that the less you open the engine, the better. > Basically, everytime you open the head, or any other cover, you're also > risking some reliability. His trick was never to check valve clearances but > to rather wait to hear them knocking when out-of-spec. > I must say all the cars help up really really well under this system. On the > other hand, I do sometimes open the head cover to check the BMW's valve > clearances. > > Here's a suggestion I'm not too sure about but... buy that stethoscope type > device (JC Whitney has them) which instead of the little cup-piece at the > end has a thin metal rod that you just prod the engine with. Check (and > adjust if necessary) your valves once, close it up and listen. This will be > the sound you'll grow to recognize and love. If you do this on a regular > basis (once a month?) you'll be familiar with the sound and you'll notice > the change when they come out of spec. Adjust immediately and you'll > probably get away without damaging the valves. > > Now I want expert opinions on this suggestion. > > Thanks > Niv > BMW F650ST > > -----Original Message----- > From: William J. Huson [mailto:bhuson@XXXXXX] > Sent: Mon, October 29, 2001 9:21 AM > To: Jeremy Purdy > Cc: Tom Gimer; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Valve adjustments > > So you got the shaft! har har har. I prefer belt drive, no oil to mess > with. > > Solid lifter valves sould make a ticcing sound. I recall all of my > `Murica V-8 engines with solid lifters going ticca-ticca-ticca even when > in adjustment, and TICCA-TICCA-TICCA when a bit loose. A judgement > call. Really sloppy valves would show up in a slight loss of power. > Best to do ythe feeler guage thang for the first couple checks. > > My ol' Suzuki with OHC and shims inna bucket recommended 4K checks. I > did one at 6K, took a peek 6K later (no adjustment needed) and never > touched them again. > > Bill > > Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > > I completely agree. I wanted a bike with hydraulic > > valves. Unfortunately, I also wanted a mid-size > > cruiser with a shaft. I have not found any bike which > > meets all of those criteria, so I compromised. > > > > The original question was, however, do I really need > > to adjust the valves as often as the manual says or is > > there some way that I can tell when the bike actually > > needs an adjustment? > > > > This is my first bike and I am trying to learn how to > > do the maintenance myself, so I was looking for some > > advice from more experienced riders. > > > > Jeremy > > > > --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > > > EVERY 4,000 MILES!!! Good grief, it's times like > > > these when riding an > > > archaic machine with hydraulic tappets feels > > > oh-so-good. > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > Jeremy Purdy wrote: > > > > > > > I own a 2000 Yamaha V-Star Classic. > > > > > > > > BTW: I checked the manual and it says to check and > > > > adjust the valve clearance every time you change > > > the > > > > oil (which it lists at 4000 mile intervals) > > > > > > > > Jeremy > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 19:33:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com (imo-r07.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.103]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9U0X2P17798 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:33:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.130.3c0ad30 (2612) for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:32:51 -0500 (EST) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <130.3c0ad30.290f4f32@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:32:50 EST Subject: Re: Valve adjustments To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_130.3c0ad30.290f4f32_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 --part1_130.3c0ad30.290f4f32_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit purdyjeremy@XXXXXX writes: > The original question was, however, do I really need > to adjust the valves as often as the manual says or is > there some way that I can tell when the bike actually > needs an adjustment? My vote says you should check them at manual suggested intervals until they stabilize. The valve adjustment being too tight is much worse than too loose because if they are too tight they aren't seating fully on the valve seat and you run the risk of burning the valves. And while you might hear a valve that has too much clearance there is no way to know it's not too tight except to measure it. If you check them 3 or 4 times and none are getting tight then you can probably safely extend the interval a bit. If you need any help adjusting them buy the service manual and then come over to my house and I'll help you. Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_130.3c0ad30.290f4f32_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit purdyjeremy@XXXXXX writes:


The original question was, however, do I really need
to adjust the valves as often as the manual says or is
there some way that I can tell when the bike actually
needs an adjustment?


My vote says you should check them at manual suggested intervals until they stabilize. The valve adjustment being too tight is much worse than too loose because if they are too tight they aren't seating fully on the valve seat and you run the risk of burning the valves. And while you might hear a valve that has too much clearance there is no way to know it's not too tight except to measure it. If you check them 3 or 4 times and none are getting tight then you can probably safely extend the interval a bit. If you need any help adjusting them buy the service manual and then come over to my house and I'll help you.

Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R

 --part1_130.3c0ad30.290f4f32_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 19:43:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9U0h8P17952 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:43:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id m.12f.6b60bcd (2612); Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:42:58 -0500 (EST) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <12f.6b60bcd.290f5192@aol.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:42:58 EST Subject: Re: great DC rides To: pawilson@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12f.6b60bcd.290f5192_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 --part1_12f.6b60bcd.290f5192_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > I'm going to need a virtual show of hands in order to pick the day. > Sunday for me! Steve Broadstreet 01 ZX-9R --part1_12f.6b60bcd.290f5192_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pawilson@XXXXXX writes:


I'm going to need a virtual show of hands in order to pick the day.

Sunday for me! 
Steve Broadstreet
01 ZX-9R
 --part1_12f.6b60bcd.290f5192_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 20:19:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13906.mail.yahoo.com (web13906.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.69]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9U1JsP18492 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:19:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011030011953.45630.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.15.184.123] by web13906.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:19:53 PST Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 17:19:53 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Re: great DC rides To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <12f.6b60bcd.290f5192@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sunday good for me too Keith --- SBave@XXXXXX wrote: > pawilson@XXXXXX writes: > > > > I'm going to need a virtual show of hands in order > to pick the day. > > > Sunday for me! > Steve Broadstreet > 01 ZX-9R > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 21:02:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from stmpy-4.cais.net (stmpy-4.cais.net [205.252.14.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9U22aP19194 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from micron (dynamic52.cl6.cais.net [205.177.20.52]) by stmpy-4.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f9U22Y449454 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:02:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00ea01c160e6$63a09f20$2b14b1cd@micron> From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: Valve adjustments Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:58:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 From: Jeremy Purdy purdyjeremy@XXXXXX I completely agree. I wanted a bike with hydraulic valves. Unfortunately, I also wanted a mid-size cruiser with a shaft. . . . snip Kaw Vulcan 750's meet those specs. Email me and I'll share with you other of the conservative manybennies (65hp, centerstand, etc.). Bill S. / DC '99 VN750 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 21:14:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9U2EQP19368 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:14:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO (1Cust63.tnt10.tco2.da.uu.net [65.230.243.63]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9U2EOD07144 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:14:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000901c160e8$bf490f40$3ff3e641@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 10/28/01 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:15:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 "kkightly" HEY!!! Damn it, I resemble that remark. I plan to BE one of those I.B.R.'ers (Inside the Beltway Run'ers), and I ride a Harley. A big one. Loud, inefficient, occasionally leaky, really devoid of all social graces... a lot like its owner. Oh yeah, boy, you bring the ear plugs, we'll bring the noise (Notice the sinister double entendre there?)! 8^) See ya' Sunday the 11th. Don your colors, too. It'll be Veterans day, after all. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 21:50:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11101.mail.yahoo.com (web11101.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.148]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9U2o5P19944 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:50:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011030025004.94842.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [12.91.115.45] by web11101.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:50:04 PST Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:50:04 -0800 (PST) From: Ulrich Boser Reply-To: ulrich@XXXXXX Subject: webfirst To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <200110300000.f9U001017294@dirty.meretrix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii for web hosting, i would highly recommend webfirst. they have my site and it includes email. they are a small shop out of bethesda. the customer service woman, maria, is great too. email me with more questions. ulrich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Oct 29 23:51:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.65]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9U4pdP21699 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from washdc3-ar2-4-3-184-157.elnk.dsl.gtei.net ([4.3.184.157] helo=pltrgyst.xhost.org) by robin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 15yQsA-0005Hl-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 29 Oct 2001 20:51:34 -0800 Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011029234703.00ad77f0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 23:51:25 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: webfirst In-Reply-To: <20011030025004.94842.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200110300000.f9U001017294@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:50 PM 10/29/01, Ulrich Boser wrote: >for web hosting, i would highly recommend webfirst. >they have my site and it includes email. they are a >small shop out of bethesda. the customer service >woman, maria, is great too. email me with more >questions. Wow, a "Power Plan" that offers a whole 25MB of storage! I get a *lot* more than webfirst offers on their Web site for less money from XO (ex-Concentric, ex-9NetAvenue). You're not profiting from their "Referral Program" -- or dating Maria -- are you? 8;) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 05:30:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10505.mail.yahoo.com (web10505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.155]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9UAUDP26896 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 05:30:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011030103012.15809.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.247.116.168] by web10505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 02:30:12 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 02:30:12 -0800 (PST) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip To: Dale Horstman , DC Cycles List In-Reply-To: <3BDDACCC.FC6687CB@home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you had bagged a deer, would you have strapped it to the front or rear? Todd W. ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 07:36:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UCZxP28739 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:35:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-6.patriot.net [209.249.180.6]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9UCZut32512; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:35:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDE9D2C.CAB7339@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:29:32 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Withrow CC: Dale Horstman , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip References: <20011030103012.15809.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Withrow wrote: > If you had bagged a deer, would you have strapped it > to the front or rear? > Dale wuz hunting in Virginia, land of pixie deer - he'd just stuff mini-Bambi in a saddlebag. Bill From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 07:49:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r01.mx.aol.com (imo-r01.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.97]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UCnvP28919 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:49:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-r01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.14b.3372dcd (3996) for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:49:54 -0500 (EST) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <14b.3372dcd.290ffbf2@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:49:54 EST Subject: Re: oil question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/29/2001 11:10:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, stephen_cutchins@XXXXXX writes: > Manassas Honda wants $6.50/quart for Honda HP4 > synthetic. > Sorry. But it is not synthetic, HP4 is a synthetic _blend_, part dinosaur juice, part techno wonder. That is why it is so much cheaper. Not that it is not a good compromise, it is, it is just not (pure) synthetic. P.S. You have to look at the bottle, the sales people at the dealerships almost always call it synthetic. As for me I use Bel-Ray EXS pure synthetic but it is expensive. (and that comes in two weights, one starts at 0w, I use the "thicker" one.) John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 08:06:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com (imo-r02.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.98]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UD69P29222 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:06:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.112.6d5a6cf (3996) for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:06:02 -0500 (EST) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <112.6d5a6cf.290fffba@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:06:02 EST Subject: Re: Valve adjustments To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/29/2001 7:34:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, SBave@XXXXXX writes: > if they are too tight they aren't seating fully on the valve seat and > you run the risk of burning the valves. It makes the nicest tulip shaped cut tapering from the valve stem out to the edge of the valve. Looks just like it was machined there deliberately. Not that I have ever seen these things.... I just heard... John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 08:25:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11105.mail.yahoo.com (web11105.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.152]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9UDPMP29470 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:25:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011030132521.84450.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.117.237.234] by web11105.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 05:25:21 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 05:25:21 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Weaver Subject: RE: DC Ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000901c160e8$bf490f40$3ff3e641@apnHOFOJOKO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I hate to throw a fly into the ointment, but isn't a ride through D.C. going to be a nightmare for a large group of riders? It seems like you guys are going to spend all day waiting for each other after each traffic light splits up the group. I hope I'm wrong, as it sounds like a great idea except for that. Chris Weaver [snip] > The inside the beltway run-around sounds great. > Let's show them folks there > are other bikes out there other than Harley's!! [snip] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 08:33:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UDXlP29630 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-6.patriot.net [209.249.180.6]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9UDXit09622; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:33:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDEAAB9.F083E299@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:27:21 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: oil question References: <14b.3372dcd.290ffbf2@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Might as well fan the flames ... IMHO, the use of synthetic oils is waste of money, but if it makes one feel good - do it. Using factory rec dino oil is my plan. How many bike engines get even close to their usable life? Maybe 1 in 100,000. But like I said, if synthetics make you feel good - do it. It's only money. My vice - I pay about $12 a gallon for gen-yew-wine H-D oil. But is *is* special. The oil engineers have modified the molecular structure for hi-performance in the Harley engine. Looking at the molecules with an electron microscope, the molecular pattern forms a perfect image of the (tm) Harley Davidson Bar & Shield logo! Bill PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > > Sorry. But it is not synthetic, HP4 is a synthetic _blend_, part dinosaur > juice, part techno wonder. That is why it is so much cheaper. Not that it is > not a good compromise, it is, it is just not (pure) synthetic. > > P.S. You have to look at the bottle, the sales people at the dealerships > almost always call it synthetic. > As for me I use Bel-Ray EXS pure synthetic but it is expensive. (and that > comes in two weights, one starts at 0w, I use the "thicker" one.) > > John Walters (Long John) > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX > Up near DC > > Honda ST1100X Pan European > (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European > is now necessary {and I still like it.}) > BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles > Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 08:35:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UDZpP29723 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:35:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-6.patriot.net [209.249.180.6]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9UDZmt10018; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:35:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDEAB35.907CDAFF@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:29:25 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Weaver CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC Ride References: <20011030132521.84450.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nah, that won't be the problem. Pushing the unlucky rider's bikes out of mega-potholes will be the task of the evening, not to mention everyone practicing swerve to avoid tactics to dodge flying manhole covers. Bill Chris Weaver wrote: > I hate to throw a fly into the ointment, but isn't a > ride through D.C. going to be a nightmare for a large > group of riders? It seems like you guys are going to > spend all day waiting for each other after each > traffic light splits up the group. I hope I'm wrong, > as it sounds like a great idea except for that. > > Chris Weaver > > [snip] > > The inside the beltway run-around sounds great. > > Let's show them folks there > > are other bikes out there other than Harley's!! > [snip] > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. > http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 09:12:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d08.mx.aol.com (imo-d08.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UECsP00431 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:12:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-d08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.c8.1ccaa89c (4596) for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:12:46 -0500 (EST) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:12:46 EST Subject: Re: oil question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/30/2001 8:34:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > How many bike engines get even close to their usable life? Started using synthetic in my BMW when it hit 100,000mi. it now has over 200,000. I think that qualifies. As for my current primary bike I lack the place, the time (or urge) to change oil every couple of months, synthetics allow for longer oil change intervals because they do retain viscosity far longer then standard oils. Do not flame me, just read any reliable test of oils. I do agree that if you are going to change your oil at recommended intervals and ride normally the benefits are arguable. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 09:28:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UERxP00690 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:27:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-6.patriot.net [209.249.180.6]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9UERut20739; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:27:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDEB76D.287687CA@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:21:33 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: oil question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 10/30/2001 8:34:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, > bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > > > How many bike engines get even close to their usable life? > > Started using synthetic in my BMW when it hit 100,000mi. it now has over > 200,000. I think that qualifies. > > As for my current primary bike I lack the place, the time (or urge) to change > oil every couple of months, synthetics allow for longer oil change intervals > because they do retain viscosity far longer then standard oils. Do not flame > me, just read any reliable test of oils. I do agree that if you are going to > change your oil at recommended intervals and ride normally the benefits are > arguable. No flamey from me - oils are a personal choice, sort of like boxers or briefs :-) 200K is indeed above and beyond the normal call of M/C engine duty. RE synthetics, yes, they last longer betwixt changes. My oil change intervals are rather loose - right now the Hawg is about 1K overdue. I use the average run theory - long runs don't muck up oil, it's the short hops that kill it, synthetic or dino. So this time 90% of the milage has been over the road so I'll procrastinate the oil chnage. Heat also kills oil, dino oil being more affected than plastic oil. In the summer I'll swap the oil out when it *looks* bad, as in toasted from a highway haul in 90+ degree weather. Bill From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 10:11:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UFBUP01298 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:11:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from 66-44-117-14.s268.tnt10.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.117.14] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15yaY4-0004Ei-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:11:29 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c16155$7ea15020$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: References: <20011030132521.84450.qmail@web11105.mail.yahoo.com> <3BDEAB35.907CDAFF@patriot.net> Subject: Re: DC Ride Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:36:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I'll plan on splitting up if the group is overly large and I'll got a fairly detailed cue sheet in progress. For the GPS capable there will be waypoints at every place I plan on pausing for a few minutes. So it'll be hard to get lost. I don't plan on waiting at every traffic light for folks to catch up, in other words, that's impractical. On the other hand we won't have some of the usual group dynamics problems of rides in the hinterlands, fast group with people riding beyond their limits, following too close at high speed, etc. Of course if something does go awry I'm sure I'll never hear the end of it from the Monday morning quarterbacks. And you wonder why people don't rush to stick their necks out and host "public" group rides here on DC-Cycles. Riding in the city does take a different "skill set" and putting your feet up and down all the time is good for the abs. You'll also get lots of practice with "Texas rolling stops" at all the four-way stop signs. See how slow you can go without putting your feet down. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "William J. Huson" > Nah, that won't be the problem. Pushing the unlucky rider's bikes out > of mega-potholes will be the task of the evening, not to mention > everyone practicing swerve to avoid tactics to dodge flying manhole > covers. > > Bill > > Chris Weaver wrote: > > > I hate to throw a fly into the ointment, but isn't a > > ride through D.C. going to be a nightmare for a large > > group of riders? It seems like you guys are going to > > spend all day waiting for each other after each > > traffic light splits up the group. I hope I'm wrong, > > as it sounds like a great idea except for that. > > > > Chris Weaver From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 10:51:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UFpcP01986 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.39]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GM100GIX01HWW@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:51:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GM100G01000X4@XXXXXX>; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:51:15 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GM000FAGZZMP8@XXXXXX>; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:50:10 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:49:44 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip To: "William J. Huson" Cc: Todd Withrow , DC Cycles List Message-id: <3BDECC18.2CC28351@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20011030103012.15809.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> <3BDE9D2C.CAB7339@XXXXXX> "William J. Huson" wrote: > > Dale wuz hunting in Virginia, land of pixie deer - he'd just stuff mini-Bambi > in a saddlebag. And if I got a big one, I'd just hack that sucker in half and use both bags. :) Actually, regular deer season doesn't open until Nov. 19th - I was out hunting squirrels. Much easier to carry home. As it was, didn't see a darned thing. -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 11:03:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UG3RP02226 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:03:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id LAA05145; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:00:12 -0500 (EST) From: Received: from unknown(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xma002468; Tue, 30 Oct 01 10:58:58 -0500 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GM100EOQ0GYOD@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:00:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:01:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip To: the.horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 10/30/2001 11:02:07 AM Course not, they're all in the city where you can't shoot 'em. Sneaky little bastards. Perhaps you can bring a fishing net on your Connie for the DC ride in early Nov.? --chris To: "William J. Huson" cc: Todd Withrow DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip "William J. Huson" wrote: > > Dale wuz hunting in Virginia, land of pixie deer - he'd just stuff mini-Bambi > in a saddlebag. And if I got a big one, I'd just hack that sucker in half and use both bags. :) Actually, regular deer season doesn't open until Nov. 19th - I was out hunting squirrels. Much easier to carry home. As it was, didn't see a darned thing. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 11:15:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d01.mx.aol.com (imo-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.33]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UGFaP02453 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:15:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id t.11c.6a41bce (15881); Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from web38.aolmail.aol.com (web38.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.14]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v81.9) with ESMTP id MAILINID78-1030111501; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:15:01 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:15:00 EST From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip To: , Cc: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <11c.6a41bce.29102c05@aol.com> SQUIRRELS???? You want squirrels? Hell...my sister lives in Harpers Ferry and is trying to get RID of her squirrels. They had her trapped in the house one day actually trying to break in. She said there were two at the back door and one at the front beating on the glass. They've taken over all of her bird houses and made the openings squirrel sized so they can get in easier. I think they removed one entire side from one of them. You ever want to go squirrel hunting in West By God Virginia, up on top of a mountain, let me know. I'm sure she won't mind. ;-) I think she asked for a pellet or paintball gun this year for Christmas. LOL Scooter In a message dated Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:53:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, Dale Horstman writes: > "William J. Huson" wrote: > > > > Dale wuz hunting in Virginia, land of pixie deer - he'd just stuff mini-Bambi > > in a saddlebag. > > And if I got a big one, I'd just hack that sucker in half and use both > bags. :) > > Actually, regular deer season doesn't open until Nov. 19th - I was out > hunting squirrels. Much easier to carry home. As it was, didn't see a > darned thing. > > -- > MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 11:40:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f105.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.105]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UGeFP02864 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:28:33 -0800 Received: from 63.251.87.214 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:28:32 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.251.87.214] From: "Perry Coleman" To: the.horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:28:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2001 16:28:33.0230 (UTC) FILETIME=[EACEE6E0:01C1615F] Personally, I gave up hunting squirrels years ago. It's just too much work cleaning them after you shoot them. And since my wife won't eat them, it's hardly worth cooking them. Of course, I'll never forget how much fun it was cleaning them when they took a pellet in the GI tract. Yuck... I'll save my energy for deer... Perry p.s. Of course, it never fails that I'll have several grey and fox squirrels running all around my deer stand making such a racket that a deer could walk right up on me before I'd hear it. Every now and again I wonder what a .30-06 would do to one of those tree rats... >From: Dale Horstman >To: "William J. Huson" >CC: Todd Withrow , DC Cycles List > >Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip >Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:49:44 -0500 > >"William J. Huson" wrote: > > > > Dale wuz hunting in Virginia, land of pixie deer - he'd just stuff >mini-Bambi > > in a saddlebag. > >And if I got a big one, I'd just hack that sucker in half and use both >bags. :) > >Actually, regular deer season doesn't open until Nov. 19th - I was out >hunting squirrels. Much easier to carry home. As it was, didn't see a >darned thing. > >-- >MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) > >Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX >Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > >AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! > >'98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer >'99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi >'82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 12:23:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com ([204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UHN3P03557 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:23:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:22:21 -0500 Message-Id: <200110301222.AA1138163762@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "Paul Wilson" CC: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Re: great DC rides X-Mailer: Sunday the 11th, afternoon, is good my me. 1pm or later would be perfect. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Paul Wilson" Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 12:02:58 -0500 >Based on emails I've received, consensus seems to be building for a Sunday >ride, instead of Sat. There are three caveats, however: >1) Saturday mornings work better for me, since I am not available to ride >until noon on Sundays >2) There could be street closings for Veteran's Day events. This is one >of the few holidays that has events scheduled on the actual day, rather than >the "official observance" the next day. I expect this year's Veteran's Day >events will have special poignancy. >3) The food portion of the ride might be better placed at the beginning >of the ride rather than the end if we do it on Sunday due to a late start. > >I'm going to need a virtual show of hands in order to pick the day. > >As far as planning goes, I've got the route pretty much nailed and I rode >the whole thing yesterday. About 40 miles (about 2-2.5 hours with some >stops), totally inside the District, with some twisties and points of >interest. We need to find a launching point (the Canal Rd. Exxon at the end >of the Whitehurst Fwy. works if the group's not too large) and a >lunch/brunch/snack spot, preferable with off-street parking. > >Paul in DC >95 VFR750F >www.wilsonline.org >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Cc: ; >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:09 AM >Subject: Re: great DC rides > > >> >> Paul, >> >> I'm in. Let me know if you need any help with the planning. I think the >> 11th (Veteran's Day) would be a great day to enjoy the Nation's Capital. >> >> --chris > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 12:37:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp02.wcom.com (dgesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.16.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UHbvP03772 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:37:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.39]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42261) with ESMTP id <0GM10075M4YOA0@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:37:37 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GM1000014Y4O1@XXXXXX>; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:37:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GM100JMV4XYLU@XXXXXX>; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:37:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:36:45 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: AWSHIDT To: Ed & Barb Phelps Cc: Chatty Morons , DC Cycles List , Concours Owners Group Message-id: <3BDEE52D.A6044532@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <014801c14813$02647100$2ddf3ad0@t5b6x1> Ed & Barb Phelps wrote: > > Send your results to: > > AWSHIDT Tour > c/o Ed Phelps > 7447 Old Washington Road > Woodbine Maryland 21797 Hi Ed, First of all, I want to thank you for arranging this wonderful tour. I had an absolute blast this summer plotting, scheming, and planning to get 99 good highway signs. I think I accomplished my goal, although you are the final judge. It took a little bit of effort, a couple of return trips, several duplicate shots, some creative parking skills, some improvised rally flag placements, and lots of film to get good readable pictures. There are still a couple photo's that are a little hard to see, but I hope they are good enough. If not, it doesn't matter, I still had a wonderful time. This was a great year of riding for me. I started out with a few local highways in the Mid Atlantic area, then started combining my travels to some Long Distance Events (MD 2020, Tarbutt) with Route Hunting. The Concours Owners' Group held their annual Rally in Klamath Falls, Oregon in July of this year, and I was able to reap a bonanza of pictures on the long trip out. US 20, 25, 45, 65, 75, 85, and 95 fell to my camera along the way. This was by far the longest trip from home I'd ever attempted on my Kawasaki Concours, and it was a great experience that I'll treasure. Detouring through Minnesota on the way back allowed me to get the elusive US 10. Sheer luck, some traffic detours and fortuitous gas stops allowed me to get several others. I should mention how helpful it was to have the wanton pursuit of pictures help ease the strain of riding nearly the whole way across the continent and back. I treated each stop like a full blown timed endurance rally stop, trying to be as efficient as possible with spotting signs, parking, deploying the flag, placing myself for the photo, recording the location & date, and stashing flag and camera away again, and zooming off. It was an incredibly refreshing break from just munching miles, and kept me very alert and psyched up to get back on the bike. I really enjoyed participating in what became for me a 7 Month Long Rally. August was a quiet month, as I turned to other things after the long trip to Oregon, but September and October saw me getting a little frantic as I continued with wrapping up the remaining highway signs. I started using a polaroid camera to take "back-up shots" in case my regular camera somehow failed to work. A little paranoia goes a long ways, I guess. A quick day trip to Connecticut yielded that sneaky US 5, plus a few others, and a nice unplanned lunch at Marcus Dairy. I had to make a little detour on the way to the Feast in the East Rally in Statesville, NC (by way of Jacksonville, Florida!) to get the required US 25, 80, and 90, and a couple of others. A planned ride to my old hometown in Western PA for US 19 (my parents still live right on US 19) never materialized, so I had to settle for a quick blast to Morgantown, WV to finish off the collection. I was done! I've picked the best, clearest photos to turn in for evaluation. I've got copies of all of these photos, so I will not be needing them returned to me. Thanks again for holding this Tour, Ed! I had an incredible amount of fun, and it certainly was a challenge for me to finish with all the required photos. I plan on arranging my copies of the pictures and my rally flag in a nice photo album, it will be a treasured memento of a wonderful year of riding. Thank you for the adventure, and the wonderful memories. Sincerely, Dale "The Horkster" Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) A Proud, Happy, and Tired Rider #322 of the American Wanderings Sequential Highway ID Tour (AWSHIDT) http://www.4seasonsroadriders.com/ '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 14:49:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UJnrP05733 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:49:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-231.patriot.net [209.249.180.231]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9UJnUt28096; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:49:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDF02CB.7C01EF15@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:43:07 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: Todd Withrow , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip References: <20011030103012.15809.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> <3BDE9D2C.CAB7339@XXXXXX> <3BDECC18.2CC28351@XXXXXX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > "William J. Huson" wrote: > > > > Dale wuz hunting in Virginia, land of pixie deer - he'd just stuff mini-Bambi > > in a saddlebag. > > And if I got a big one, I'd just hack that sucker in half and use both > bags. :) > > Actually, regular deer season doesn't open until Nov. 19th - I was out > hunting squirrels. Much easier to carry home. As it was, didn't see a > darned thing. We need an Urban hunting season!!! Dern squirrels all over my yard, trees, and roof! From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 14:55:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp02.wcom.com (pmesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.20.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UJttP05817 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:55:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.141]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #42257) with ESMTP id <0GM1006M0BD0PF@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:55:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GM100F01BCPVW@XXXXXX>; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:55:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.49]) by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with ESMTP id <0GM100EM5BC2D4@XXXXXX>; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:55:15 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:54:48 -0500 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip To: "William J. Huson" Cc: Todd Withrow , DC Cycles List Message-id: <3BDF0588.DE892117@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20011030103012.15809.qmail@web10505.mail.yahoo.com> <3BDE9D2C.CAB7339@XXXXXX> <3BDECC18.2CC28351@XXXXXX> <3BDF02CB.7C01EF15@XXXXXX> "William J. Huson" wrote: > > We need an Urban hunting season!!! Dern squirrels all over my yard, trees, and > roof! Had one jump out of a tree and land right next to me on Sunday, while I was doing yardwork. These suckers are getting bold. I think he was pissed because I refused to refill the bird feeder for him. :) Damned little terrorist squirrels. :) Hork -- MSL! SMG! (Chatty Moron TM's) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth AWSHIDT #322 - Completed. 99 Highway Signs! '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 15:16:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UKGHP06169 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:16:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-231.patriot.net [209.249.180.231]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9UKGGt05120 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:16:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDF0911.CAAEB2BF@patriot.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:09:53 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: 20th & Crystal Drive - Arlington Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I reckon y`all who park scoots there dodged the tickets today. I came around the bend and swooped into the parking garage, noticing a uniformed officer with tickee book in hand. UH-OH! He was chatting on his handy dandy cell phone. I parked the scoot, locked `er up, grabbed my briefcase and sped (term usely loosely, I ain't that quick anymore) outside, determined to sweet-talk the lawman out of writing a ticket bonanza on the gaggle of scoots. No law in sight.... Slowing to a more regal pace, I ambled over to the bikes. Hmm... No tickets. I reckon the lawman, observing the large collection of bikes, punched in the number for his boss to ask about M/C parking on the corner of 20th & Crystal Drive and got a forget it, no tickets fer them. Or maybe he got writers cramp early on and bagged it. I hope he didn't change up his mind and come back... Bill From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 15:25:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [204.179.120.88]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UKPqP06268 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-qfe3 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9UKPWa24583 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:25:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp02.mac.com ([10.13.10.66]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GM1CQM00.8Z6 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:25:34 -0800 Received: from dhcppool127-157.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.157]) by asmtp02.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp02 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GM1CQL00.I2F for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:25:33 -0800 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:25:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Subject: Paging Jay and/or Lisa Goddard From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-Id: <43FF44DF-CD74-11D5-BF7E-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9UKPsP06269 Shoot me an email if you get the chance. Thanks. "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." M-^WErnest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 15:49:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14603.mail.yahoo.com (web14603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9UKndP06648 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:49:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011030204938.17326.qmail@web14603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.160.240] by web14603.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:49:38 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:49:38 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Any upcoming rides? To: Tom Gimer , Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles Cc: mr_vfr@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20011028162125.33400.qmail@web14610.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > ----tg wrote: > > > > > >the next weekend day that the temp hits 65 degrees, > > >i'll be happy to do this 33-[]-219-50 loop with you. > > >fellow lister glenn dysart and i attempted a similar > > >loop this summer, but we ran out of time and had to > > >cut it short. > > this loop will be 400+, as we'll start from marshall, va > (rt. 17, exit 28 off of 66w) and head southwest through > washington, va and across the first hills on 211. we'll > do this on the first saturday with a good > forecast....leaving marshall at approx. 9am shit. i have to cancel my availability for saturday. it seems that i committed myself a month ago to ride this friday, november 2, with fellow lister john kozyn on his "day of the dead" ride. not that i'm really unhappy about this....as it makes this a short work-week. =8-D jk should be posting an invite to dcc members soon, but for those who may be interested, the route will likely be as follows: 10am, marshall, va starting point - 647 - 641 - 211w - 230s - 231s - 810s - 250w - 220n - 33e - 81n - 211e - 522 - 635 - 647 - 55 i hope that i'll get a chance to do your loop with you at some point this fall, ricardo....and i hope that some dcc-ers are able to join us on friday. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 16:24:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f132.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9ULOmP07207 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:24:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:12:58 -0800 Received: from 63.49.138.123 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:12:57 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.49.138.123] From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Day of the Dead Ride Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:12:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2001 21:12:58.0083 (UTC) FILETIME=[A640D330:01C16187] Greetings DC Guys 'n Gals, Friday, November 2nd is the Day of the Dead (or All Souls Day) in much of the world. Click here for TMI (ty Hugh Caldwell): http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01315b.htm To celebrate - and coinciding with temperatures that promise to hover around 77 degrees - myself, Tom Gimer and a few other die-hards fortunate enough to have the day off, plan to ride around 400 miles or so via the following route: 647 - 641 - 211w - 230s - 231s - 810s - 250w - 220n - 33e - 81n - 211e - 522 - 635 - 647 - 55 This is a very nice loop, which we did once or twice before earlier this year. Long sweepers to very tight twisties abound. LEO traffic should be down since it's a Friday and they expect to see bikes on Saturday and Sunday :) The ride's pace will be brisk: 5 mph over most of the time, and a bit more (!) perhaps in the twisties. We will always wait at intersections where turns are scheduled for those choosing a slower pace for themselves. This should be a lot of fun. It may also be the last nice warm day of the riding season. Please join us at Amoco/McDonalds in Marshall at 0930 or so this Friday, November 2nd, dressed appropriately, with decent tires, tanked up etc. We will leave _promptly_ at 1000 hrs. Be there. Aloha :) JK 95 VFR D-mode _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 17:51:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f221.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.221]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9UMpmP08579 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:51:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:39:47 -0800 Received: from 204.193.255.42 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 22:39:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.193.255.42] From: "Doug Allis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, ipcrc@XXXXXX Subject: SPAM: Hein Gericke size 42 Jacket Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 22:39:47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Oct 2001 22:39:47.0667 (UTC) FILETIME=[C7684230:01C16193] I am selling a jacket on e-bay. Its a gray Hein Gericke size 42, with insulated revovable liner. I want at least $70.00, see http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1655108114&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=1004923731&indexURL=0&rd=1 Doug Allis DHAllis@XXXXXX w: 202-482-5985 h: 703-912-9576 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 20:57:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9V1vqP11494 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:57:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9V1vjs18141; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:57:45 -0500 From: laura granato To: "Danny Thompson" , "D.C. Cycles" Subject: Re: More Congrats! Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 20:56:20 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <00d001c16090$1daf9d50$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> In-Reply-To: <00d001c16090$1daf9d50$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01103020562007.04674@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 29 October 2001 10:41, Danny Thompson wrote: > Congrats also go out to: > RANDY NUSBAUM - 6th Middleweight Sportsman, 7th Amateur Lightweight > Superbike (on an old Harley 1200 no less!) > STEVE KEENER- 3rd Expert Lightweight Superbike, 6th Expert Lightweight > Grand Prix > BERNIE HUNTT- 6th Expert Lightweight Superbike, 3rd Heavyweight Sportsman > GRADY ANDERSON- 4th Amateur GT Lights > I second that! I watched these guys race while I was down there, and every one of them should be commended for a job well done! Mid-Atlantic kicks ass! Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 22:44:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9504.mail.yahoo.com (web9504.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.134]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9V3i2P13122 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 22:44:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [131.118.94.95] by web9504.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:44:01 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:44:01 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: Beginner Bikes (advice please) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii was thinking of maybe along the lines of a kawasaki ex500-r or maybe a suzuki gs-500e. Not riding yet but planning to begin this summer, have only like 6 hours experience, most of that from the safety class to get my liscence. O and im talking about earlier models probably like 95 or so. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Thanks, Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Oct 30 23:12:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9V4CXP13598 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9V4CUs18257; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:12:30 -0500 From: laura granato To: Eric , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:11:06 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01103023110601.05371@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tuesday 30 October 2001 22:44, Eric wrote: > was thinking of maybe along the lines of a kawasaki ex500-r or maybe a > suzuki gs-500e. Hi there Eric! I have a GS500, and I really like it. It's my first street bike, and it's a great beginner bike. If you've been on this list a while, you'll know that your thread will start some ruckus...I'm glad to hear you are thinking about a 500cc bike as a beginner bike...that's smart. the GS is a great little bike, and handles being dropped well (and you will drop it). It's peppy enough that it's fun, but doesn't have so much power that you'll get yourself into trouble. Laura From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 00:19:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fc2.capaccess.org (fc2.capaccess.org.199.200.151.IN-ADDR.ARPA [151.200.199.52] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9V5J5P14537 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 00:19:06 -0500 (EST) Message-id: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 00:18:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) To: krazylax@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" References: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit krazylax@XXXXXX writes: >was thinking of maybe along the lines of a kawasaki ex500-r or maybe a >suzuki gs-500e. Not riding yet but planning to begin this summer, have >only like 6 hours experience, most of that from the safety class to get my >liscence. O and im talking about earlier models probably like 95 or so. >any suggestions would be greatly appreciated That sounds very reasonable if you're about average size and plan to do mostly local (within a couple hundred miles) riding. If you intend to do lots of touring, you might look for more comfortable bikes---but they're generally bigger and/or have more cylinders. --garcia "We're lost, but we're making good time." From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 00:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11505.mail.yahoo.com (web11505.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.37]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9V5eqP14834 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 00:40:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011031054051.91563.qmail@web11505.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.52.58.5] by web11505.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:40:51 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:40:51 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) To: garcia oliver , krazylax@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmm, I did many many 500 mile days on the 500 Magna I used to own. Did me just fine and I'm not the tiniest person in the world. Glenn --- garcia oliver wrote: > That sounds very reasonable if you're about average > size and plan to do > mostly local (within a couple hundred miles) riding. > If you intend to do > lots of touring, you might look for more comfortable > bikes---but they're > generally bigger and/or have more cylinders. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 00:40:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11507.mail.yahoo.com (web11507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9V5eqP14833 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 00:40:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011031054051.20115.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.52.58.5] by web11507.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:40:51 PST Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:40:51 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) To: garcia oliver , krazylax@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmm, I did many many 500 mile days on the 500 Magna I used to own. Did me just fine and I'm not the tiniest person in the world. Glenn --- garcia oliver wrote: > That sounds very reasonable if you're about average > size and plan to do > mostly local (within a couple hundred miles) riding. > If you intend to do > lots of touring, you might look for more comfortable > bikes---but they're > generally bigger and/or have more cylinders. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 07:25:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VCPWP21083 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.5f.1d0b6396 (4255) for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:25:25 -0500 (EST) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <5f.1d0b6396.291147b5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:25:25 EST Subject: Re: oil question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/30/2001 9:28:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > 200K is indeed above and beyond the normal call of M/C engine duty. By the way the engine has never been cracked. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 07:36:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VCaIP21298 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from dgismtp03.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.143]) by firewall.wcom.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GM2007EZLOBIZ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:36:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp03.wcomnet.com by dgismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GM200E01LO4KI@XXXXXX>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:36:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chan3544t ([166.36.153.47]) by dgismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GM200D6CLO2BA@XXXXXX>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:36:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:35:26 -0500 From: Robert Verde Subject: A vote for Sunday... To: pawilson@XXXXXX Cc: "DC Cycles (E-mail)" Reply-to: c-Robert.Verde@XXXXXX Message-id: <009e01c16208$85078ed0$2f9924a6@wcomnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Count me in. Robert Verde '83 Honda VF750FD Interceptor "BUDOKA" From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 07:51:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r03.mx.aol.com (imo-r03.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.99]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VCpcP21560 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-r03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.154.34c7d9b (4255) for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:51:28 -0500 (EST) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <154.34c7d9b.29114dd6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:51:34 EST Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/31/2001 12:41:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, glenn_dysart@XXXXXX writes: > Hmm, I did many many 500 mile days on the 500 Magna I > used to own. Did me just fine and I'm not the tiniest > person in the world. If you have the opportunity to take a trip on a bike DO IT! I once had a friend who drove non stop (except food/fuel) from central Florida to Michigan on a 125 Street trail! He made better time driving up on the bike then he did driving back in a cage. Point being: As far as I can tell there is not one bike on this list that could not be used for any cross country trip, my first long one (10,000mi. in 1976) was on a Triumph Bonneville, I could never ride more then 400mi. in a day because it was so uncomfortable (I have since ridden 1,308mi. in a day.) And I have been thankful ever since that I did it. I hope you all get the opportunity to do something like that some day. I can not because my bike ______ (fill in blank) is just an excuse. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 08:09:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VD9uP21826 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-206.patriot.net [209.249.180.206]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9VD9rt21891; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:09:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3BDFF6A1.BC5DF003@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:03:29 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: garcia oliver CC: krazylax@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) References: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit garcia oliver wrote: > That sounds very reasonable if you're about average size and plan to do > mostly local (within a couple hundred miles) riding. If you intend to do > lots of touring, you might look for more comfortable bikes---but they're > generally bigger and/or have more cylinders. More cylinders? Hmm... I thought the Kawi 500 was a UJM with 4 cyl, but that's a moot point. A 500 anybrand is more than adequate for long trips. PEI Nova Scotia far enough? Daytona & Tampa FL far enough? Well, okay, is was HUGE GS550E Suzuki, but before the Suzuki me'n the bride did a round trip to Charlotte NC, most of it on the BRP, on a beat to crap Honda 350 twin. Now I ride a Harley bagger but I'll bet a Kawi 500 puts out almost as much HP and has a better power-to-wieght ratio. So I say, without res4ervation, that a 500 is plenty bike. Good size to start with, and in Newbie likes it, a good size to stay with. Bagged out with various luggage options, a rider could tour the country on a 500. Bill From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 08:17:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m07.mx.aol.com (imo-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.162]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VDH7P21985 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:17:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.15d.34bbda0 (4255) for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:16:54 -0500 (EST) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <15d.34bbda0.291153c6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:16:54 EST Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 10/30/2001 10:53:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, the.horkster@XXXXXX writes: > I was out > hunting squirrels. Every time you ride my man, every time you ride. Just some are 4 legged, some are 2 legged. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 08:55:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.kivex.com (smtp-out.kivex.com [204.177.32.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VDtDP22530 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from kawgirl (kawgirl.kivex.com [208.213.150.18]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id IAA20149 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:55:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:54:40 -0500 (EST) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl To: dccycles Subject: squirrel hunting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:43:07 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" To: Dale Horstman CC: Todd Withrow , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip We need an Urban hunting season!!! Dern squirrels all over my yard, trees, and roof! No squirrels for me in Rockville. I live close to a large quarry, the birds that make their home in the walls of the quarry have eaten all of the rodentia in the 'hood. If only I could train the hawks to hunt deer... Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 08:57:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VDuxP22540 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:56:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.254]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id IAA13423; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:56:56 -0500 X-Really-To: Message-ID: <00e301c16213$c3cff110$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> Reply-To: "Danny Thompson" From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" , Subject: Dirt ride Saturday Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 08:55:56 -0500 Organization: LHS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Anyone up for a good dirt ride Saturday? I am looking for some people who want to ride who know of a good place to go. Joe?, Julian?, Matt?, Joe?, Mike?, Eben?, Chuck?, anybody??? Danny '02 XR 250R '00 SV (racebike) '98 Superhawk '00 Shadow Ace Tourer --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.292 / Virus Database: 157 - Release Date: 10/26/01 From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 09:02:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9601.mail.yahoo.com (web9601.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.180]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VE2FP22717 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:02:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011031140205.28746.qmail@web9601.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.11.149.33] by web9601.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 06:02:05 PST Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 06:02:05 -0800 (PST) From: Jeannette Subject: Re: squirrel hunting To: dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You need to borrow our dog Red Stripe! He HATES squirrels! Goes CRAZY if he sees them in our yard! Now if he can just catch one! ;-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 --- "lisa@XXXXXX" wrote: > > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:43:07 -0500 > From: "William J. Huson" > To: Dale Horstman > CC: Todd Withrow , > DC Cycles List > Subject: Re: Connie on a hunting trip > > We need an Urban hunting season!!! Dern squirrels > all over my yard, > trees, and > roof! > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 09:34:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f138.hotmail.com [216.32.181.138]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VEYLP23249 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:34:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 06:22:18 -0800 Received: from 64.221.81.2 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:22:18 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.221.81.2] From: "Natasha Louis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: OT: Wood Stoves Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:22:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2001 14:22:18.0289 (UTC) FILETIME=[72346210:01C16217] Sorry about this message guys. A couple of months ago I think somebody posted an ad that they had a wood stove to get rid of, not positive, but vaguely remember this. Can't remember who, just know that it is the guy who's friend passed away and he is handling estate. Do you still have the stove(s)? If so, are they still up for grabs? Please let me know. Thanks, Natasha tashalouis@XXXXXX _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 09:38:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VEcuP23327 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:38:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH8JBV>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:37:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:37:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I have a '94 Yamaha Seca II 600cc I started on. It's been great. Insurance companies consider it a standard so insurance would probably be less than a Ninja 500. They were made from '92-'98 and sold new for mid 5s, most go in the 2s now. Not a lot of plastic to worry about scratching either. -----Original Message----- From: Eric [mailto:krazylax@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:44 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Beginner Bikes (advice please) was thinking of maybe along the lines of a kawasaki ex500-r or maybe a suzuki gs-500e. Not riding yet but planning to begin this summer, have only like 6 hours experience, most of that from the safety class to get my liscence. O and im talking about earlier models probably like 95 or so. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Thanks, Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 09:56:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VEuDP23584 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:56:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.8.) id 2.74.125fee3c (15863); Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from web32.aolmail.aol.com (web32.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.8]) by air-id06.mx.aol.com (v81.9) with ESMTP id MAILINID62-1031095600; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:56:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 09:55:59 EST From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <74.125fee3c.29116b00@aol.com> I've done a couple long trips but, my longest is going to be next summer. I'm planning on taking two weeks off and riding cross country to attend the races at Laguna Seca and checking out this great country of ours. :-) Anyone wanna join me? ;-) Scooter (2000 r/w/b YZF R6) In a message dated Wed, 31 Oct 2001 7:52:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, PenguinBiker@XXXXXX writes: > In a message dated 10/31/2001 12:41:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, > glenn_dysart@XXXXXX writes: > > > Hmm, I did many many 500 mile days on the 500 Magna I > > used to own. Did me just fine and I'm not the tiniest > > person in the world. > > If you have the opportunity to take a trip on a bike DO IT! I once had a > friend who drove non stop (except food/fuel) from central Florida to Michigan > on a 125 Street trail! He made better time driving up on the bike then he did > driving back in a cage. > Point being: As far as I can tell there is not one bike on this list that > could not be used for any cross country trip, my first long one (10,000mi. in > 1976) was on a Triumph Bonneville, I could never ride more then 400mi. in a > day because it was so uncomfortable (I have since ridden 1,308mi. in a day.) > And I have been thankful ever since that I did it. I hope you all get the > opportunity to do something like that some day. I can not because my bike > ______ (fill in blank) is just an excuse. > > > > John Walters (Long John) > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX > Up near DC > > Honda ST1100X Pan European > (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European > is now necessary {and I still like it.}) > BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles > Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 10:16:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VFG2P24011 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-206.patriot.net [209.249.180.206]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9VFFst21833; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:15:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3BE0142A.338BAE72@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:09:30 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Natasha Louis CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: OT: Wood Stoves References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Shoulda been here last week! Sorry, both units have been sold. They were actually ventless gas stoves - fake wood fireplaces. Bill, harried executor Natasha Louis wrote: > Sorry about this message guys. A couple of months ago I think somebody > posted an ad that they had a wood stove to get rid of, not positive, but > vaguely remember this. Can't remember who, just know that it is the guy > who's friend passed away and he is handling estate. > > Do you still have the stove(s)? If so, are they still up for grabs? > > Please let me know. > > Thanks, > > Natasha > tashalouis@XXXXXX > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 10:22:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rhino.spottedcat.com (IDENT:root@[63.91.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VFMKP24114 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:22:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (hcaldwell@localhost) by rhino.spottedcat.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA02637; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:17:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:16:58 -0500 (EST) From: hcaldwell X-Sender: hcaldwell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: dcoffroad@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Dirt ride Saturday In-Reply-To: <00e301c16213$c3cff110$0c07a8c0@lhs149teacher> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm interested. This will be my first dirt ride on the new DR650 so go easy on me. Hugh From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 13:01:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VI1SP26757 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:01:11 -0500 Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666ADD9@DCHQCLEXHQ> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'bhuson@XXXXXX'" Subject: oil question Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:03:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain For an unbalanced Hardly ryder, you make a lotta sense. D'yer compadres make fun a'yew fer that? "No flamey from me - oils are a personal choice, sort of like boxers or briefs :-) RE synthetics, yes, they last longer betwixt changes. My oil change intervals are rather loose - right now the Hawg is about 1K overdue. I use the average run theory - long runs don't muck up oil, it's the short hops that kill it, synthetic or dino. So this time 90% of the milage has been over the road so I'll procrastinate the oil chnage. Heat also kills oil, dino oil being more affected than plastic oil. In the summer I'll swap the oil out when it *looks* bad, as in toasted from a highway haul in 90+ degree weather. Bill" Because most of my miles are commuting (with too few 1-2000 mi. weekenders), I change the dino juice every 2K. If I ever get the time and gumption to do the back to Texas Tour, I'll fill'er up with Mobile 1 (15-50). "Damned little terrorist squirrels. :)" <$30 at Wally-World buys a pellet rifle and a box of lead pellets (BB's don't work) Uh, so I've heard. Carl in (a no hunting zone) Commuting into your nation's capital since 1981 through sun, rain, over snow, and around road ragers. '85 VF700S (Rocin-ahorito); '83 VF700F (666) '97 Aerostich Roadcrafter (Fred the Red) Don't need no loud pipes; I got big honking tooters: http://members.tripod.com/~v65_magna/sos_99/sat_lunch2.jpg From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 13:23:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f218.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.218]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VIN5P27069 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:11:03 -0800 Received: from 38.179.42.119 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:11:03 GMT X-Originating-IP: [38.179.42.119] From: "James Sharifi" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:11:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2001 18:11:03.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[670A34D0:01C16237] Hi everyone! I've been lurking on this listserv for a while since buying my first bike, which just happens to be a GS500E. I can tell you that my experiences with the GS as my first bike have been nothing but positive... if you're interested in picking one up a bit sooner than the summer, I know that crossroads cycles has a 92 GS500 for sale for $1200. Good Luck, Jim Sharifi _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 13:40:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VIeJP27356 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:38:14 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:31:06 -0600 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: Day of the Dead Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9VIeOP27357 Sounds like a good route and I have the day off. If I don't screw my carbs of too much shimming the needles I will be there. Where exactly is the Amoco/McDonalds in Marshall? Regards, George Cole 01 FZ1 >>> "John Kozyn" 10/30/01 04:12PM >>> Greetings DC Guys 'n Gals, Friday, November 2nd is the Day of the Dead (or All Souls Day) in much of the world. Click here for TMI (ty Hugh Caldwell): http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01315b.htm To celebrate - and coinciding with temperatures that promise to hover around 77 degrees - myself, Tom Gimer and a few other die-hards fortunate enough to have the day off, plan to ride around 400 miles or so via the following route: 647 - 641 - 211w - 230s - 231s - 810s - 250w - 220n - 33e - 81n - 211e - 522 - 635 - 647 - 55 This is a very nice loop, which we did once or twice before earlier this year. Long sweepers to very tight twisties abound. LEO traffic should be down since it's a Friday and they expect to see bikes on Saturday and Sunday :) The ride's pace will be brisk: 5 mph over most of the time, and a bit more (!) perhaps in the twisties. We will always wait at intersections where turns are scheduled for those choosing a slower pace for themselves. This should be a lot of fun. It may also be the last nice warm day of the riding season. Please join us at Amoco/McDonalds in Marshall at 0930 or so this Friday, November 2nd, dressed appropriately, with decent tires, tanked up etc. We will leave _promptly_ at 1000 hrs. Be there. Aloha :) JK 95 VFR D-mode _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 13:46:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14602.mail.yahoo.com (web14602.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.82]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VIkEP27490 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:46:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011031184603.35435.qmail@web14602.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.160.240] by web14602.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:46:03 PST Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:46:03 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Day of the Dead Ride To: George Cole , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jckozyn@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii rt. 17, exit 28 of 66w. stay right. amoco/mcdonalds is .1 mile on right. --- George Cole wrote: > Sounds like a good route and I have the day off. > > If I don't screw my carbs of too much shimming the > needles I will be there. > > Where exactly is the Amoco/McDonalds in Marshall? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 14:04:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fc2.capaccess.org (fc2.capaccess.org.199.200.151.in-addr.arpa [151.200.199.52] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VJ4mP27736 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:04:48 -0500 (EST) Message-id: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:01:08 -0500 Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) To: bhuson@XXXXXX Cc: krazylax@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" References: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> <3BDFF6A1.BC5DF003@XXXXXX> In-Reply-To: <3BDFF6A1.BC5DF003@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit bhuson@XXXXXX writes: > > >garcia oliver wrote: > >> That sounds very reasonable if you're about average size and plan to do >> mostly local (within a couple hundred miles) riding. If you intend to >do >> lots of touring, you might look for more comfortable bikes---but they're >> generally bigger and/or have more cylinders. > >More cylinders? Hmm... I thought the Kawi 500 was a UJM with 4 cyl, but >that's >a moot point. EX500 is 2 cylinder. > A 500 anybrand is more than adequate for long trips. Power, yes. Comfort (2 cylinder), generally no. > PEI Nova >Scotia far enough? Daytona & Tampa FL far enough? Well, okay, is was HUGE >GS550E Suzuki, Which is a more comfortable 4-cylinder bike. Please re-read:"... >you might look for more comfortable bikes---but they're >> generally bigger and/or have more cylinders " > but before the Suzuki me'n the bride did a round trip to >Charlotte NC, most of it on the BRP, on a beat to crap Honda 350 twin. And would you choose to do it again on a 350 twin? I did an 1800 km trip on a 200cc bike. It was dumb, but I didn't know any better. > Now I >ride a Harley bagger but I'll bet a Kawi 500 puts out almost as much HP >and has >a better power-to-wieght ratio. So, why do you ride the HD? > >So I say, without res4ervation, that a 500 is plenty bike. Good size to >start >with, Agreed. > and in Newbie likes it, a good size to stay with. Depends on what kind of riding you intend to do. Which was my original point. > Bagged out with >various luggage options, a rider could tour the country on a 500. Could, but mostly don't. garcia "Get the facts first. You can distort them later." -- Mark Twain > >Bill From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 14:41:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13806.mail.yahoo.com (web13806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VJfpP28332 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:41:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011031194150.66980.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13806.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:41:50 PST Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 11:41:50 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Moto in the New Order Video To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just got the new New Order CD. Their new video features an interesting view from a motorcycle: http://music.windowsmedia.msn.com/preview/?preview=604576 ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 14:56:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h008.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.122]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VJudP28628 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:56:39 -0500 (EST) Received: (cpmta 1605 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2001 11:56:32 -0800 Received: from 170.252.3.2 (HELO truck.lemrow.com) by smtp.lemrow.com (209.228.32.122) with SMTP; 31 Oct 2001 11:56:32 -0800 X-Sent: 31 Oct 2001 19:56:32 GMT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011031144831.020ea328@mail.lemrow.com> X-Sender: firblt@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:52:27 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Justin Lemrow Subject: Re: Day of the Dead Ride In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hey guys and gals, that's a good route. For those that don't know: - 647 has had some gravel on it from time to time this year - 211 (the gap that runs up skyline dr in particular has had leos a lot this yr... and antifreeze, eh George?) - 33 gap b/w harrisonburg and brandywine has been partially repaved on VA side... alot of which is in the corners. nothing too dangerous, but a different surface then it used to be. - 81 trucks trucks trucks Have a great ride. :) not sure if i can make it or not, but all those roads are good choices. Ride Safe, Justin >To celebrate - and coinciding with temperatures that promise to hover around >77 degrees - myself, Tom Gimer and a few other die-hards fortunate enough to >have the day off, plan to ride around 400 miles or so via the following >route: > >647 - 641 - 211w - 230s - 231s - 810s - 250w - 220n - 33e - 81n - 211e - 522 >- 635 - 647 - 55 > >This is a very nice loop, which we did once or twice before earlier this >year. Long sweepers to very tight twisties abound. LEO traffic should be >down since it's a Friday and they expect to see bikes on Saturday and Sunday >:) 1999 VFR 800 Northern VA/Washington DC From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 15:01:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com [207.46.181.87]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VK1dP28809 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from computer ([63.48.107.165]) by cpimssmtpu12.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:00:47 -0800 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" , "Eric" Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:02:33 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2001 20:00:48.0609 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC194510:01C16246] Eric, I would suggest getting a used bike. I have seen guys getting 929rr as their starter bikes and its not pretty, they drop them in the first day and then the bike feels like its already used and abused. Most of the guys seem to drop them a low speed in parking lots or gas stations. But it always seem that they drop them. Get yourself some frame sliders just to be sure you will not drop it and cause more damage than not having them. Seems like you are going in the right steps to getting a bike, are you instersted in sportbikes, cruisers, dirt bikes ... I have found that Dual sports are better for people just starting out, a klr650, xr650, dr650 or a 350cc dual sport is great, and they can be had for around 3000$ used in excellent condition. They are forgiving in corners, they handle bad roads really well as opposed to bikes like my r1 which are very planted and you feel every bump on the road. The only disadvantage that they have is that they are tall bikes. They are not the fastest bikes, but with a skill rider they can keep up with most sportbikes in twisty roads. I think dual sports are amongst the most underlooked bikes on the street. Personally im looking for a xr650 or xl600 by honda, i dont want to spend too much :) Another bike you should look at is the sv650, i would rather get a sv650 than a ex500. Not that either bike is bad. A honda hawk gt is great, plus its cheap. 2000$ gets you one. Honda cbr600's are good starter bikes, but they are very powerful. I have seen many cbr f3's really cheap. Personally i find it easy to control any bike, even 929rrs, r1, suzuki gsxr1000. If a beginner has enough self control, he can ride anything safely. Generally for most people, its worth getting a smaller bike to start. Bikes to avoid Suzuki gsxr1000 suzuki gsxr750 Suzuki Hayabusa Suzuki Tl1000r Honda 929rr honda rc51 honda 900rr honda superhawk honda blackbird kawasaki zx-11, zx 12, zx9, zx7 Yamaha r1 triumph daytona triumph speed triple Bikes to look for Honda Hawk gt honda cbr600 yamaha r6 suzuki sv650 kawasaki zx6 kawasaki katana kawasaki klr650 suzuki dr650 honda xr650 Eric, if you ever want to go for a ride lemme know, im always up for some riding. ricardopontes@XXXXXX Ricardo -----Original Message----- From: Eric [mailto:krazylax@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:44 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Beginner Bikes (advice please) was thinking of maybe along the lines of a kawasaki ex500-r or maybe a suzuki gs-500e. Not riding yet but planning to begin this summer, have only like 6 hours experience, most of that from the safety class to get my liscence. O and im talking about earlier models probably like 95 or so. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Thanks, Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 15:09:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com [207.46.181.79]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VK9QP28923 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from computer ([63.48.107.165]) by cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:08:34 -0800 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:10:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2001 20:08:34.0925 (UTC) FILETIME=[D20B71D0:01C16247] Maybe the original poster should get a bmw. That is a boxer twin. Most bmw's are easy to control, very comfortable. Only draw back that i can see is that they weight quite a bit. A nice r1150r might cost around 9k. Or 11k with ABS. Or he could get one of the sportbike Bmws, they look really nice. Bmw is 2 cylinder right? cheers Ricardo Pontes > A 500 anybrand is more than adequate for long trips. Power, yes. Comfort (2 cylinder), generally no. > PEI Nova >Scotia far enough? Daytona & Tampa FL far enough? Well, okay, is was HUGE >GS550E Suzuki, Which is a more comfortable 4-cylinder bike. Please re-read:"... >you might look for more comfortable bikes---but they're >> generally bigger and/or have more cylinders " > but before the Suzuki me'n the bride did a round trip to >Charlotte NC, most of it on the BRP, on a beat to crap Honda 350 twin. And would you choose to do it again on a 350 twin? I did an 1800 km trip on a 200cc bike. It was dumb, but I didn't know any better. From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 15:20:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp015.mail.yahoo.com (smtp015.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VKK8P29192 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:20:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from 24-163-103-196.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.163.103.196) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2001 20:20:06 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:18:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal BMW R bikes are 2 cylinder, while the K bikes are 4 cylinder. I think most beemers are too heavy and expensive to make good beginner bikes. The only possible exception is the F650 - then it's just too expensive. Good bikes, but not beginner material. LindaT. Custom TankBags IBA #9088 <--------------- just got it today!!! Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner Ricardo Pontes said: Maybe the original poster should get a bmw. That is a boxer twin. Most bmw's are easy to control, very comfortable. Only draw back that i can see is that they weight quite a bit. A nice r1150r might cost around 9k. Or 11k with ABS. Or he could get one of the sportbike Bmws, they look really nice. Bmw is 2 cylinder right? cheers Ricardo Pontes _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 15:20:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from server1.mckissack.com (mail.mckissackdc.com [209.8.13.194]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VKKDP29195 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:20:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by SERVER1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <41JH8JNP>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:19:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: RichH@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:18:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Everyone I talked to said to stay away from the latest top of the line 600 sportbikes. I wanted a Honda CBR 600 F4 and the dealer didn't want to sell it to me. I'm not a little guy either, he said he felt it was too powerful to start on. I do agree with getting a used one. I added a couple of bikes to the list too. -----Original Message----- From: Ricardo Pontes [mailto:ricardopontes@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:03 PM To: Dccycles; Eric Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Eric, I would suggest getting a used bike. I have seen guys getting 929rr as their starter bikes and its not pretty, they drop them in the first day and then the bike feels like its already used and abused. Most of the guys seem to drop them a low speed in parking lots or gas stations. But it always seem that they drop them. Get yourself some frame sliders just to be sure you will not drop it and cause more damage than not having them. Seems like you are going in the right steps to getting a bike, are you instersted in sportbikes, cruisers, dirt bikes ... I have found that Dual sports are better for people just starting out, a klr650, xr650, dr650 or a 350cc dual sport is great, and they can be had for around 3000$ used in excellent condition. They are forgiving in corners, they handle bad roads really well as opposed to bikes like my r1 which are very planted and you feel every bump on the road. The only disadvantage that they have is that they are tall bikes. They are not the fastest bikes, but with a skill rider they can keep up with most sportbikes in twisty roads. I think dual sports are amongst the most underlooked bikes on the street. Personally im looking for a xr650 or xl600 by honda, i dont want to spend too much :) Another bike you should look at is the sv650, i would rather get a sv650 than a ex500. Not that either bike is bad. A honda hawk gt is great, plus its cheap. 2000$ gets you one. Honda cbr600's are good starter bikes, but they are very powerful. I have seen many cbr f3's really cheap. Personally i find it easy to control any bike, even 929rrs, r1, suzuki gsxr1000. If a beginner has enough self control, he can ride anything safely. Generally for most people, its worth getting a smaller bike to start. Bikes to avoid Suzuki gsxr1000 suzuki gsxr750 AND 600 Suzuki Hayabusa Suzuki Tl1000r Honda 929rr honda rc51 honda 900rr honda superhawk honda blackbird kawasaki zx-11, zx 12, zx9, zx7 Yamaha r1 triumph daytona triumph speed triple Bikes to look for Honda Hawk gt xhonda cbr600 xyamaha r6 YAMAHA 600R YAMAHA 600FZR YAMAHA SECA II suzuki sv650 xkawasaki zx6 kawasaki katana (Suzuki 600 or 750) kawasaki klr650 suzuki dr650 honda xr650 KAWASAKI 750 THEY PUT OUT LAST YEAR SUZUKI BANDIT 600 Eric, if you ever want to go for a ride lemme know, im always up for some riding. ricardopontes@XXXXXX Ricardo -----Original Message----- From: Eric [mailto:krazylax@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:44 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Beginner Bikes (advice please) was thinking of maybe along the lines of a kawasaki ex500-r or maybe a suzuki gs-500e. Not riding yet but planning to begin this summer, have only like 6 hours experience, most of that from the safety class to get my liscence. O and im talking about earlier models probably like 95 or so. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Thanks, Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 15:32:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f196.law14.hotmail.com [64.4.21.196]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VKWGP29460 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:32:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:32:08 -0800 Received: from 63.75.33.2 by lw14fd.law14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:32:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.75.33.2] From: "Pejman Taei" To: RichH@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:32:08 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2001 20:32:08.0875 (UTC) FILETIME=[1CD317B0:01C1624B]

Yeah I would not get a new 600, that is too much bike.  I just started riding street bikes about 4 months ago.  Before that i had a 100cc dirt bike, which kept me busy for about 2 years.  Recently, 4 months ago I bought a 95 600F3, which I am enjoying very much.  I would suggest that to be a very good bike, but I still think it is too powerful if you have not had any prior riding experience, something like a SV650, or something more forgiving would be better.  Good luck,

Pejman

'95 Honda CBR 600F3

>From: RichH@XXXXXX
>To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
>Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please)
>Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:18:59 -0500
>
>Everyone I talked to said to stay away from the latest top of the line 600
>sportbikes. I wanted a Honda CBR 600 F4 and the dealer didn't want to sell
>it to me. I'm not a little guy either, he said he felt it was too powerful
>to start on.
>I do agree with getting a used one.
>I added a couple of bikes to the list too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: Ricardo Pontes [mailto:ricardopontes@XXXXXX]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:03 PM
>To: Dccycles; Eric
>Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please)
>
>
>Eric,
>
>
>I would suggest getting a used bike. I have seen guys getting 929rr as their
>starter bikes and its not pretty, they drop them in the first day and then
>the bike feels like its already used and abused. Most of the guys seem to
>drop them a low speed in parking lots or gas stations. But it always seem
>that they drop them. Get yourself some frame sliders just to be sure you
>will not drop it and cause more damage than not having them. Seems like you
>are going in the right steps to getting a bike, are you instersted in
>sportbikes, cruisers, dirt bikes ...
>
>I have found that Dual sports are better for people just starting out, a
>klr650, xr650, dr650 or a 350cc dual sport is great, and they can be had for
>around 3000$ used in excellent condition. They are forgiving in corners,
>they handle bad roads really well as opposed to bikes like my r1 which are
>very planted and you feel every bump on the road. The only disadvantage that
>they have is that they are tall bikes. They are not the fastest bikes, but
>with a skill rider they can keep up with most sportbikes in twisty roads. I
>think dual sports are amongst the most underlooked bikes on the street.
>Personally im looking for a xr650 or xl600 by honda, i dont want to spend
>too much :)
>
>Another bike you should look at is the sv650, i would rather get a sv650
>than a ex500. Not that either bike is bad. A honda hawk gt is great, plus
>its cheap. 2000$ gets you one. Honda cbr600's are good starter bikes, but
>they are very powerful. I have seen many cbr f3's really cheap.
>
>Personally i find it easy to control any bike, even 929rrs, r1, suzuki
>gsxr1000. If a beginner has enough self control, he can ride anything
>safely. Generally for most people, its worth getting a smaller bike to
>start.
>
>Bikes to avoid
>Suzuki gsxr1000
>suzuki gsxr750 AND 600
>Suzuki Hayabusa
>Suzuki Tl1000r
>Honda 929rr
>honda rc51
>honda 900rr
>honda superhawk
>honda blackbird
>kawasaki zx-11, zx 12, zx9, zx7
>Yamaha r1
>triumph daytona
>triumph speed triple
>
>
>Bikes to look for
>Honda Hawk gt
>xhonda cbr600
>xyamaha r6
> YAMAHA 600R
> YAMAHA 600FZR
> YAMAHA SECA II
>suzuki sv650
>xkawasaki zx6
>kawasaki katana (Suzuki 600 or 750)
>kawasaki klr650
>suzuki dr650
>honda xr650
> KAWASAKI 750 THEY PUT OUT LAST YEAR
> SUZUKI BANDIT 600
>
>
>
>
>
>Eric, if you ever want to go for a ride lemme know, im always up for some
>riding. ricardopontes@XXXXXX
>
>
>
>Ricardo
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eric [mailto:krazylax@XXXXXX]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 10:44 PM
>To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
>Subject: Beginner Bikes (advice please)
>
>
>was thinking of maybe along the lines of a kawasaki ex500-r or maybe a
>suzuki gs-500e. Not riding yet but planning to begin this summer, have
>only like 6 hours experience, most of that from the safety class to get my
>liscence. O and im talking about earlier models probably like 95 or so.
>any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
>
>Thanks,
>Eric
>
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From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 15:37:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from laundry.annapurna.com (rob-0.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.145.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VKbcP29629 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:37:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from odinseat.annapurna.com (dhcp-2.it.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.119.242]) by laundry.annapurna.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9VKbic43421 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:37:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rob@XXXXXX) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011031151734.00a97630@mail.annapurna.com> X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:36:56 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) In-Reply-To: References: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 03:02 PM 10/31/2001, Ricardo Pontes wrote: >I would suggest getting a used bike. Definitely used! Imagine the disappointment of dropping or mishandling a brand new bike! Multiple times! :-) >The only disadvantage that they have is that they are tall bikes. I think that low seat height and low center of gravity are pretty important. The bike needs to be forgiving of small balance errors. Being able to get both feet flat-footed easily is very confidence-inspiring for new riders, IMO. Small "metric cruisers" are great for this, even if you don't intend to carry on with cruisers for subsequent bikes. When I went for the MSF course, they were using Honda Rebel 250's. There has also been a Rebel 450. Kawasaki KZ440LTD's were great little learner bikes in their day. They're easy to re-sell to the next guy, too. Rebels are at a premium in the used market. By contrast, I had a Honda Ascot VT500. High seat, front end seemed really heavy, not a good choice for a new rider IMO. I think large displacement, high-performance, and other testosterone-laden bikes are a huge mistake for new riders. There are your ugly cycle fatality stats in a nutshell right there; 'nuff said. My two cents. /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 15:49:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cwd.dcgov.org (msexchange.dcgov.org [151.200.101.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VKnVP29818 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CWDEXCH0 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <4KXHLG53>; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:45:34 -0500 Message-ID: <2344588A203AD311B7950090276269862CF56C@CWDEXCH0> From: lantech To: "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:45:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain >>>Definitely used! Imagine the disappointment of dropping or mishandling a brand new bike! Multiple times! :-) I agree completely... and don't forget the abuse on the clutch. You gotta start with something you won't feel bad about killing. There will be enough newness and fun just to be on the bike that you can wait till the second bike to get the sporty/shiny one! -patti From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 16:01:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com [207.46.181.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VL16P00159 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:01:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from computer ([63.42.222.192]) by cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:00:15 -0800 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: List of beginner bikes and experienced rider bikes Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:02:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2001 21:00:15.0705 (UTC) FILETIME=[0A40EC90:01C1624F] Beginner Bikes -Honda Hawk gt -honda cbr600 -yamaha r6 -YAMAHA 600R - YAMAHA 600FZR - YAMAHA SECA II -suzuki sv650 -kawasaki zx6 -kawasaki katana -kawasaki klr650 -suzuki dr650 -honda xr650 KAWASAKI 750 THEY PUT OUT LAST YEAR SUZUKI BANDIT 600 -BMW f650 -Aprilia pegaso -Ktm lc4 adventure -Ktm Duke(loads of fun) -gsx600f katana -gs500e -Triumph Boneville -Honda africa twin -honda transalp -yamaha xt600 -yamaha tenere Experienced Rider bikes -Suzuki gsxr1000 -suzuki gsxr750 AND 600 -Suzuki Hayabusa -Suzuki Tl1000r -Honda 929rr -honda rc51 -honda 900rr -honda superhawk -Honda vfr 800f -honda blackbird -kawasaki zx-11, zx 12, zx9, zx7 -Yamaha r1 -Yamaha Vmax -triumph daytona -triumph speed triple I would consider Bmw's good bikes to start out if they werent so heavy. Im not sure about Harley Davidsons, i never rode one. Ricardo Pontes yamaha r1 From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 16:04:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from FW2.dt.navy.mil (FW2.dt.navy.mil [192.5.27.136]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VL4wP00188 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by FW2.dt.navy.mil; id QAA19656; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:08:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from unknown(130.46.225.16) by FW2.dt.navy.mil via smap (V5.5) id xma019040; Wed, 31 Oct 01 16:07:18 -0500 Received: from navgate.dt.navy.mil (navgate.dt.navy.mil [130.46.225.15]) by smtprelay.dt.navy.mil (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA07802 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:03:47 -0500 Received: (from silbergejw2k [130.46.162.39]) by navgate.dt.navy.mil (NAVGW 2.5.1.12) with SMTP id M2001103116034616431 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:03:46 -0500 Message-ID: <015001c1624f$ddac4e80$27a22e82@silbergejw2k> Reply-To: "Eric Silberg" From: "Eric Silberg" To: References: Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:06:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Wow...the dealer didn't want to sell you a supersport? Good for them! I'm impressed...most will often try and steer you towards one... Most of these bikes are far from beginner bikes, they often have more potential than many experienced riders can exploit. They can have over 100 hp at the wheel and can do in excess of 160 mph. Not exactly a great learning tool... The R6, CBR600F3/4, GSXR600, ZX6R, TT600, etc. are all great bikes, but should be respected, and definitely NOT bought as a learner bike. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: RE: Beginner Bikes (advice please) > Everyone I talked to said to stay away from the latest top of the line 600 > sportbikes. I wanted a Honda CBR 600 F4 and the dealer didn't want to sell > it to me. I'm not a little guy either, he said he felt it was too powerful > to start on. > I do agree with getting a used one. > I added a couple of bikes to the list too. From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 16:12:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14604.mail.yahoo.com (web14604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.84]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VLCTP00370 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:12:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011031211228.19266.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [168.103.160.240] by web14604.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:12:28 PST Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:12:28 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: oil question To: "Custer, Carl" , "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'bhuson@XXXXXX'" In-Reply-To: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666ADD9@DCHQCLEXHQ> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "Custer, Carl" wrote: > "Damned little terrorist squirrels. :)" > <$30 at Wally-World buys a pellet rifle and a box of lead > pellets (BB's > don't work) Uh, so I've heard. careful, carl. i saw an article today about a young man (i forget where) who was recently charged with felony cruelty to animals for shooting 2 squirrels in his neighborhood. while i do feel for the poor squirrels, sniff, sniff, imo the prosecutor should consider having his head examined.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 16:14:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13807.mail.yahoo.com (web13807.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VLEmP00395 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:14:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011031211447.84012.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.178.236.82] by web13807.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:14:47 PST Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:14:47 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: List of beginner bikes and experienced rider bikes To: Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You are insane to put a R6, F4 and zx6 in there. How long have you been riding???? --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > > > Beginner Bikes > > -Honda Hawk gt > -honda cbr600 > -yamaha r6 > -YAMAHA 600R > - YAMAHA 600FZR > - YAMAHA SECA II > -suzuki sv650 > -kawasaki zx6 > -kawasaki katana > -kawasaki klr650 > -suzuki dr650 > -honda xr650 > KAWASAKI 750 THEY PUT OUT LAST YEAR > SUZUKI BANDIT 600 > -BMW f650 > -Aprilia pegaso > -Ktm lc4 adventure > -Ktm Duke(loads of fun) > -gsx600f katana > -gs500e > -Triumph Boneville > -Honda africa twin > -honda transalp > -yamaha xt600 > -yamaha tenere > > > Experienced Rider bikes > > > -Suzuki gsxr1000 > -suzuki gsxr750 AND 600 > -Suzuki Hayabusa > -Suzuki Tl1000r > -Honda 929rr > -honda rc51 > -honda 900rr > -honda superhawk > -Honda vfr 800f > -honda blackbird > -kawasaki zx-11, zx 12, zx9, zx7 > -Yamaha r1 > -Yamaha Vmax > -triumph daytona > -triumph speed triple > > > > > I would consider Bmw's good bikes to start out if > they werent so heavy. Im > not sure about Harley Davidsons, i never rode one. > > > Ricardo Pontes > yamaha r1 > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 16:21:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VLLxP00566 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:21:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:21:52 -0500 Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666ADE8@DCHQCLEXHQ> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'Tom Gimer'" , "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'bhuson(a)patriot.net'" Subject: RE: oil question Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:24:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain > careful, carl. i saw an article today about a young man (i > forget where) who was recently charged with felony cruelty > to animals for shooting 2 squirrels in his neighborhood. > [Custer, Carl] Thanks. If I see the evil one shooting 2 squirrels, I'll call someone. Carl (who sees no reflections in his back yard) Bwahahahaha It's getting dar-rk Bwahahahaha, Bwahahahaha Got chocolate? From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 16:33:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VLX3P00712 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:33:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:30:58 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:30:33 -0600 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: Re: Day of the Dead Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f9VLX5P00713 >>> Justin Lemrow wrote >- 211 (the gap that runs up skyline dr in particular has had leos a lot >this yr... and antifreeze, eh George? I unfortunately, have experienced both within a 30 day period this year. George Cole 01 FZ1 From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 16:43:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtpout.mac.com ([204.179.120.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VLhMP00918 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-relay01.mac.com (smtp-relay01-qfe3 [10.13.10.224]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/1.0) with ESMTP id f9VLgi228978 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from asmtp01.mac.com ([10.13.10.65]) by smtp-relay01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 relay01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GM3B0000.TRH for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:43:12 -0800 Received: from dhcppool127-157.corp.us.uu.net ([153.39.127.157]) by asmtp01.mac.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 asmtp01 Jun 21 2001 23:53:48) with ESMTP id GM3B0000.302 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 13:43:12 -0800 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:43:10 -0500 Subject: Re: List of beginner bikes and experienced rider bikes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-487586848 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v472) From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <47474A6B-CE48-11D5-8EEB-003065B452D2@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.472) --Apple-Mail-1-487586848 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Where did you get this list? I don't think the US ever received the=20 Honda Transalp or the Africa Twin. Ditto for the Yamaha Tenere. And why=20= would you recommend the R6 as a beginner bike, but the GSXR600 is for=20 "experienced" riders. What?!? There are some real gems in the list, though. I agree with the = following: -Honda Hawk gt -honda cbr600 -YAMAHA 600FZR -YAMAHA SECA II -suzuki sv650 -kawasaki zx6 -kawasaki katana SUZUKI BANDIT 600 -Ktm Duke(loads of fun) -gsx600f katana -gs500e The Kawasaki isn't a bad choice if it's the ZX6-E, and not the R model.=20= Totally different animals. The reason I left the Honda CBR600 on there=20= is only if it's the original 1989 era Hurricane. I'm not a big fan of=20= the Dual-purpose bikes as first bike...nothing wrong with them, but I=20 find the setup to be less than optimal if all you're doing is street=20 riding. If you plan on doing the occasional bit of off-road fun, then=20 consider them. Of particular interest from the above list.....Bandits=20 and Katanas can be had cheaply, and are dead-reliable. Easy to work on=20= too. Smooth mid-range tuned motors, and good handling and brakes.=20 Nothing spectacular, but an all around solid package. The Yamaha Seca II=20= is another oldie-but-goody that is cheap, reliable, and is a well built=20= bike. As usual, these are only my opinions, and you should take all advice=20 with a grain of salt. (Including that advice.) "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the=20 skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-487586848 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Where did you get this list? I don't think the US ever received the Honda Transalp or the Africa Twin. Ditto for the Yamaha Tenere. And why would you recommend the R6 as a beginner bike, but the GSXR600 is for "experienced" riders. What?!? There are some real gems in the list, though. I agree with the following: 0000,0000,DEDE-Honda Hawk gt -honda cbr600 -YAMAHA 600FZR -YAMAHA SECA II -suzuki sv650 -kawasaki zx6 -kawasaki katana SUZUKI BANDIT 600 -Ktm Duke(loads of fun) -gsx600f katana -gs500e The Kawasaki isn't a bad choice if it's the ZX6-E, and not the R model. Totally different animals. The reason I left the Honda CBR600 on there is only if it's the original 1989 era Hurricane. I'm not a big fan of the Dual-purpose bikes as first bike...nothing wrong with them, but I find the setup to be less than optimal if all you're doing is street riding. If you plan on doing the occasional bit of off-road fun, then consider them. Of particular interest from the above list.....Bandits and Katanas can be had cheaply, and are dead-reliable. Easy to work on too. Smooth mid-range tuned motors, and good handling and brakes. Nothing spectacular, but an all around solid package. The Yamaha Seca II is another oldie-but-goody that is cheap, reliable, and is a well built bike. As usual, these are only my opinions, and you should take all advice with a grain of salt. (Including that advice.)=20 "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." =97Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #779 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --Apple-Mail-1-487586848-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 16:50:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VLokP01078 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from firewall.dcc-racing.org (cc723123-a.hrngtn1.de.home.com [65.14.253.189]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f9VLojs19496 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:50:45 -0500 From: Brian Roach Reply-To: roach@XXXXXX To: "Dccycles" Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:49:18 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01103116491804.05737@firewall.dcc-racing.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Wednesday 31 October 2001 15:02, Ricardo Pontes wrote: > Personally i find it easy to control any bike, even 929rrs, r1, suzuki > gsxr1000. If a beginner has enough self control, he can ride anything > safely. This is the most propagated incorrect statement in motorcycling. Beginners make mistakes... a lot of them. This is normal. One of the most common results of a beginner making a mistake is grabbing a handfull of throttle. The end result of grabbing a handfull of throttle on an GS500E is radically different than on a R1, or any modern 600 sportbike for that matter. Putting a new rider on a lightweight bike with more than 100hp at the rear wheel (any 600cc or up sportbike these days) is just NOT a good idea. Some people actually do make it through that sort of learning curve without injury and/or without destroying the bike. Many don't. - Brian Roach From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 17:22:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11501.mail.yahoo.com (web11501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.46]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f9VMMQP01607 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:22:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011031222225.8743.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.52.58.5] by web11501.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:22:25 PST Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:22:25 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) To: garicao@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes it is a 4 but I would have no problems doing these long distance rides on my GF's EX500 which is only 2. Glenn --- garcia oliver wrote: > Which is a 4-cylinder bike, if I'm not mistaken. > > > glenn_dysart@XXXXXX writes: > >Hmm, I did many many 500 mile days on the 500 Magna > I > >used to own. Did me just fine and I'm not the > tiniest > >person in the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 17:31:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VMV2P01763 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from computer ([63.48.103.211]) by cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 31 Oct 2001 14:30:07 -0800 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" , "Sean Jordan" Subject: RE: List of beginner bikes and experienced rider bikes Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C16231.ECDB5040" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <47474A6B-CE48-11D5-8EEB-003065B452D2@mac.com> Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2001 22:30:08.0192 (UTC) FILETIME=[986D2400:01C1625B] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C16231.ECDB5040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The transalp and africa twin were sold in the US in the early nineties in limited numbers i believe. They are hard to get, but i have seen a few on the streets. The tdm850 was sold in the us for a while as well, but these bikes dont do very well in the states so they have a short life here. I think the tenere is strictly European model thou, the xt600 is basically the same i think but looks more like a dirt bike. Reason i mention these bikes, is that they are really good bikes for beginners and very reliable. (They are just a bit tall) I think maybe the 600s should be put on the experts list , i would put the gsxr600, r6, zx6r in the same categorie. The supersport 600's arent beginner bikes, i think i should re adjust the list. I think the problem is that some people treat their motorcycles as race vehicles and ride like that on public streets, i really dont blame the power of the bikes, but the rider in those cases. Putting a new rider on a lightweight bike with more than 100hp at the rear wheel (any 600cc or up sportbike these days) is just NOT a good idea. Some people actually do make it through that sort of learning curve without injury and/or without destroying the bike. Many don't. - Brian Roach What is happening is perhaps i have forgotten what it was like to start riding. Anyway, it was a mistake on my part to put the supersport 600's in the beginner category. Where did you get this list? I don't think the US ever received the Honda Transalp or the Africa Twin. Ditto for the Yamaha Tenere. And why would you recommend the R6 as a beginner bike, but the GSXR600 is for "experienced" riders. What?!? There are some real gems in the list, though. I agree with the following: -Honda Hawk gt -honda cbr600 -YAMAHA 600FZR -YAMAHA SECA II -suzuki sv650 -kawasaki zx6 -kawasaki katana SUZUKI BANDIT 600 -Ktm Duke(loads of fun) -gsx600f katana -gs500e The Kawasaki isn't a bad choice if it's the ZX6-E, and not the R model. Totally different animals. The reason I left the Honda CBR600 on there is only if it's the original 1989 era Hurricane. I'm not a big fan of the Dual-purpose bikes as first bike...nothing wrong with them, but I find the setup to be less than optimal if all you're doing is street riding. Actually dual sport bikes are really great for street riding. Im sure you have riden a dual sport, but in case you have not, let me tell you. The dual sports are really hybrids between dirt bikes and street bikes. Some have more road(klr650), others more touring(bmw gs1150), others more dirt(xr650). They come in different packages, some say that the suzuki dr650 is the real medium of the lot. But they are well suited for street riding, a whole lot more practical for everyday use, they can deal with bad terrain like no other. Im not talking about bad terrain as in deserts and mud etc.. But the average pothole infested d.c. area, areas where a sportbike would crash because of the surface, a dual sport bike would be more forgiving to a beginer. They dont have insane amounts of power that one could lose control over, but they are very powerful at low speeds. What i like about some dual sport bikes like the xr650, is that they are powerful, and spetacular, they are one of the most powerful dual sports, but yet they are managable when you compare them to the supersports. Plus they have a really good rider position that makes the rider feel confident, it provides a great view over the road and you can see above most cars, and puts you in the same eye lever of pick ups. So a beginner could actually brag about having one of the most powerful dirt bikes around. :) The original poster didnt really ask about dual sports so that is just my opinion. I like them alot for beginners and experts :) All im saying is for beginners to not overlook dual sports Cheers Ricardo Pontes Beginner Bikes -Honda Hawk gt -YAMAHA 600R - YAMAHA 600FZR - YAMAHA SECA II -suzuki sv650 -kawasaki zx6 e -kawasaki katana -kawasaki klr650 -suzuki dr650 -honda xr650 KAWASAKI 750 THEY PUT OUT LAST YEAR SUZUKI BANDIT 600 -BMW f650 -Aprilia pegaso -Ktm lc4 adventure -Ktm Duke(loads of fun) -gsx600f katana -gs500e -Triumph Boneville -Honda africa twin -honda transalp -yamaha xt600 Experienced Rider bikes -Suzuki gsxr1000 -suzuki gsxr750 AND 600 -Suzuki Hayabusa -Suzuki Tl1000r -Honda 929rr -honda rc51 -honda 900rr -honda superhawk -Honda vfr 800f -honda blackbird -kawasaki zx-11, zx 12, zx9, zx7 -Yamaha r1 -Yamaha Vmax -triumph daytona -triumph speed triple ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C16231.ECDB5040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The transalp and africa twin were sold in the US in the = early=20 nineties in limited numbers  i believe. They are hard to get, = but  i=20 have seen a few on the streets. The tdm850 was sold in the us for a = while as=20 well, but these bikes dont do very well in the states so they have a = short life=20 here.
 
I=20 think the tenere is strictly European model thou, the xt600 is basically = the=20 same i think but looks more like a dirt bike.
 
Reason i mention these bikes, is that they are really good = bikes for=20 beginners and very reliable. (They are just a bit = tall)
 
I=20 think maybe the 600s should be put on the experts list , i would put the = gsxr600, r6, zx6r in the same categorie. The supersport 600's arent = beginner=20 bikes, i think i should re adjust the list.  I think the problem is = that=20 some people treat their motorcycles as race vehicles and ride like that = on=20 public streets, i really dont blame the power of the bikes, but the = rider in=20 those cases.
 
 
 

Putting a new rider on a lightweight bike with more than 100hp at the = rear=20

wheel (any 600cc or up sportbike these days) is just NOT a good idea. = Some=20

people actually do make it through that sort of learning curve = without injury=20

and/or without destroying the bike. Many don't.

- Brian Roach

 
What is happening is perhaps i have forgotten = what it=20 was like to start riding. Anyway, it was a mistake on my part to put the = supersport 600's in the beginner category.
 
 
Where did you get this list? I don't think the US ever received = the Honda=20 Transalp or the Africa Twin. Ditto for the Yamaha Tenere. And why = would you=20 recommend the R6 as a beginner bike, but the GSXR600 is for = "experienced"=20 riders. What?!?

There are some real gems in the list, though. I = agree=20 with the following:

-Honda Hawk=20 gt
-honda cbr600
-YAMAHA 600FZR
-YAMAHA SECA II
-suzuki=20 sv650
-kawasaki zx6
-kawasaki katana
SUZUKI BANDIT = 600
-Ktm=20 Duke(loads of fun)
-gsx600f = katana
-gs500e


The=20 Kawasaki isn't a bad choice if it's the ZX6-E, and not the R model. = Totally=20 different animals. The reason I left the Honda CBR600 on there is only = if it's=20 the original 1989 era Hurricane. I'm not a big fan of the Dual-purpose = bikes=20 as first bike...nothing wrong with them, but I find the setup to be = less than=20 optimal if all you're doing is street riding. 
 
Actually dual=20 sport bikes are really great for street riding. Im sure you have riden = a dual=20 sport, but in case you have not, let me tell you. The dual sports are = really=20 hybrids between dirt bikes and street bikes. Some have more = road(klr650),=20 others more touring(bmw gs1150), others more dirt(xr650). They come in = different packages, some say that the suzuki dr650 is the real medium = of the=20 lot. But they are well suited for street riding, a whole lot more = practical=20 for everyday use, they can deal with bad terrain like no other. Im not = talking=20 about bad terrain as in deserts and mud etc.. But the average pothole = infested=20 d.c. area, areas where a sportbike would crash because of the surface, = a dual=20 sport bike would be more forgiving to a beginer. They dont have insane = amounts=20 of power that one could lose control over, but they are very powerful = at low=20 speeds. What i like about some dual sport bikes like the xr650, is = that they=20 are powerful, and spetacular, they are one of the most powerful dual = sports,=20 but yet they are managable when you compare them to the supersports. = Plus they=20 have a really good rider position that makes the rider feel confident, = it=20 provides a great view over the road and you can see above most cars, = and puts=20 you in the same eye lever of pick ups.
 
 
 
So a beginner could actually brag about having one of the = most powerful=20 dirt bikes around. :)
 
 
The original poster didnt really ask about dual sports so = that is just=20 my opinion. I like them alot for beginners and experts  :) All im = saying=20 is for beginners to not overlook dual sports
 
 

 Cheers 
Ricardo Pontes
 

Beginner Bikes

-Honda Hawk gt

-YAMAHA 600R

- YAMAHA 600FZR

- YAMAHA SECA II

-suzuki sv650

-kawasaki zx6 e 

-kawasaki katana

-kawasaki klr650

-suzuki dr650

-honda xr650

KAWASAKI 750 THEY PUT OUT LAST YEAR

SUZUKI BANDIT 600

-BMW f650

-Aprilia pegaso

-Ktm lc4 adventure

-Ktm Duke(loads of fun)

-gsx600f katana

-gs500e

-Triumph Boneville

-Honda africa twin

-honda transalp

-yamaha xt600

 

 

Experienced Rider bikes

 

-Suzuki gsxr1000

-suzuki gsxr750 AND 600

-Suzuki Hayabusa

-Suzuki Tl1000r

-Honda 929rr

-honda rc51

-honda 900rr

-honda superhawk

-Honda vfr 800f

-honda blackbird

-kawasaki zx-11, zx 12, zx9, zx7

-Yamaha r1

-Yamaha Vmax

-triumph daytona

-triumph speed triple

 

 

 
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C16231.ECDB5040-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 17:39:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VMdpP01901 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from 66-44-48-246.s246.tnt5.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.48.246] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15z41V-0001UZ-00; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:39:50 -0500 Message-ID: <011301c1625d$454f73c0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Cc: "Sean Jordan" References: <47474A6B-CE48-11D5-8EEB-003065B452D2@mac.com> Subject: Re: List of beginner bikes and experienced rider bikes Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:38:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I'd add the Honda CB750 Nighthawk, both the 80s versions (displacements vary) and 91 and up incarnations. The older ones are actually sportier. Despite its weight ~475 lbs. on an empty tank, the bike is pretty easy to handle and set up with the right accessories is comfortable on 1000-mile weekends. They put out about 65 ponies and are easy on the wallet in terms of maintenance and insurance. Hydraulic valve adjusters and air cooling make the engine virtually maintenance free. I had one for a year and a half before buying the VFR. I found the bike's poor brakes and suspension to be the biggest negatives. The Nighthawks are pretty rugged and the make a good newbie drop doggy because there's no expensive bodywork to interrupt the fall. Get a pair of engine guards to protect the cases. Sean, Honda did import the Transalp to the States for a couple of years in the early 90s, I believe. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F www.wilsonline.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Jordan" Where did you get this list? I don't think the US ever received the Honda Transalp or the Africa Twin. Ditto for the Yamaha Tenere. And why would you recommend the R6 as a beginner bike, but the GSXR600 is for "experienced" riders. What?!? There are some real gems in the list, though. I agree with the following: -Honda Hawk gt -honda cbr600 -YAMAHA 600FZR -YAMAHA SECA II -suzuki sv650 -kawasaki zx6 -kawasaki katana SUZUKI BANDIT 600 -Ktm Duke(loads of fun) -gsx600f katana -gs500e From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 17:39:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VMdrP01905 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from 66-44-48-246.s246.tnt5.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.48.246] helo=palladio1) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #10) id 15z41X-0001UZ-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:39:52 -0500 Message-ID: <011401c1625d$46ae6780$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: <20011031211228.19266.qmail@web14604.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Squirrels, OT, was Re: oil question Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:40:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 The little blighters ruined my carving job on our jack-o'-lantern (chewed the face right off) and gnawed the back completely off another pumpkin. Now that the city came and poisoned all the rats, the squirrels have no competition for all the tasty morsels, restaurant cast-off yummies, etc., and they're having a field day. Squirrels are just slightly bigger and cuter versions of rats with bushier tails. Need a few predators around to clear 'em out. Full grown they're too big for the feral cats to deal with. The pesky little buggers are pretty wily. They like to sit out front and taunt our inside cats. Have to go home and prepare to greet all the two-legged little blighters in our neighborhood. Halloween is a big deal. Paul in DC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" > --- "Custer, Carl" wrote: > > "Damned little terrorist squirrels. :)" > > <$30 at Wally-World buys a pellet rifle and a box of lead > > pellets (BB's > > don't work) Uh, so I've heard. > > careful, carl. i saw an article today about a young man (i > forget where) who was recently charged with felony cruelty > to animals for shooting 2 squirrels in his neighborhood. From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 17:49:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from laundry.annapurna.com (rob-0.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.145.59]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VMn7P02087 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:49:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from odinseat.annapurna.com (dhcp-2.it.hq.nasa.gov [131.182.119.242]) by laundry.annapurna.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f9VMn9c43672 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:49:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rob@XXXXXX) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011031173446.03c33578@mail.annapurna.com> X-Sender: rob@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:48:21 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Rob Winters Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) In-Reply-To: <20011031222225.8743.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:22 PM 10/31/2001, Glenn Dysart wrote: >Yes it is a 4 but I would have no problems doing these >long distance rides on my GF's EX500 which is only 2. Gee, my dad went all the way to Key West and back solo on a 70's vintage Honda CB350 Four, complete with milk crate "luggage" holder. :-) The pistons on that thing are hilarious; they look like they're interchangeable with model aircraft. Had a good time, too, or so he claims,... although I'm sure that's impossible, since the bike is *well* under 100hp. ;-) I think I should definitely do a follow-up trip one of these days on my '80 CX500, and leave the 1500 Kaw at home! /// Rob From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 17:53:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VMrrP02178 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:53:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-245.patriot.net [209.249.180.245]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9VMrph21631; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:53:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3BE07F80.9B7C9B51@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 17:47:28 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Custer, Carl" CC: "'DCCycles'" Subject: Re: oil question References: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0666ADD9@DCHQCLEXHQ> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Custer, Carl wrote: > For an unbalanced Hardly ryder, you make a lotta sense. > D'yer compadres make fun a'yew fer that? Not about the oil thang, they're too busy busting my butt for: quiet pipes, no tattoos, and the gawdawful full-face helmet! Bill From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 18:10:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VNAaP02446 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:10:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-245.patriot.net [209.249.180.245]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f9VNAWi25339; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:10:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3BE08368.F9C426C6@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:04:08 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: garcia oliver CC: krazylax@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Beginner Bikes (advice please) References: <20011031034401.32440.qmail@web9504.mail.yahoo.com> <3BDFF6A1.BC5DF003@XXXXXX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit garcia oliver wrote: > > So, why do you ride the HD? > Because I own a Harley and it runs, therefore I ride it. BTW, it's a 2-cyl and shakes like hoochie-coochie dancer. But obviously you're lobbying your own brain for a big bike, like a Gold Wing perhaps. GWs are so comfy it's like cruising the country in a Buick without a roof. Boring. I prefer a bit of a challange. Bill has Harley & tools, will travel From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 18:18:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com [207.46.181.85]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f9VNIXP02675 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:18:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from computer ([63.20.240.142]) by cpimssmtpu10.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3779); Wed, 31 Oct 2001 15:17:42 -0800 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: Ride Sunday! Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:19:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2001 23:17:42.0893 (UTC) FILETIME=[3DF5F1D0:01C16262] Anyone want to do a bit of riding Sunday. Anyone welcome to come. I was thinking of taking a trip to west virginia. Route 340 south, 33 w, 219 n, 50 e 340 n. This is a pretty nice twisty road with nice scenery. This might be the last good weekend of good weather, so im going to take the oppurtunity before the cold starts. The weather forcast is Sun Nov 4 Partly Cloudy 62M-0F 36M-0F So that should be nice :). Its a bit chilly in the mountains, so bring your heat vest or some good warm clothes :) Ricardo Pontes yamaha r1 From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 19:38:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f155.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.155]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id fA10cfP03924 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:27:18 -0800 Received: from 151.196.240.123 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 00:27:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [151.196.240.123] From: "Jay Block" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 10/31/01 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:27:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2001 00:27:18.0260 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6AC6340:01C1626B] Okay, I can help. I have a very good recipe for squirrel. You have to marinate them first though so they don't taste, well, squirrely. Let me know. Jay _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 19:56:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f37.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.241.37]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id fA10uQP04164 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:56:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:44:55 -0800 Received: from 138.88.78.173 by lw6fd.law6.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 00:44:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [138.88.78.173] From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Day of the Dead Ride Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:44:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2001 00:44:55.0761 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CFE3C10:01C1626E] From: Justin Lemrow Subject: Re: Day of the Dead Ride Hey guys and gals, that's a good route. For those that don't know: - 647 has had some gravel on it from time to time this year ====Yeah, this began last April or so, buut there wasn't too much ==== a month ago. - 211 (the gap that runs up skyline dr in particular has had leos a lot this yr... and antifreeze, eh George?) ====Especially on the weekends. Happily, we ride Friday. I think there's only 2-3 State-Boyz between Luray and Gainesville. - 33 gap b/w harrisonburg and brandywine has been partially repaved on VA side... alot of which is in the corners. nothing too dangerous, but a different surface then it used to be. ====Yeah, nice and smooth :) - 81 trucks trucks trucks ====Pass, pass, pass :) Have a great ride. :) not sure if i can make it or not, but all those roads are good choices. ====Yeah they are. 250 is rapidly becoming my favorite also. 810 is ====very interesting too. Kind of narrow, undulating, very rural, with ====lots of variations in pavement. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 22:20:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp017.mail.yahoo.com (smtp017.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.114]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id fA13KsP06564 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:20:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from cp93425-a.mtgmry1.md.home.com (HELO cp93425a) (67.161.33.71) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2001 03:20:51 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "rdrdr" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: List of beginner bikes and experienced rider bikes Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:20:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20011031211447.84012.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Personally I'd take the SV650 off too. I've ridden one in stock form and thought its alot of fun to ride, it's a bit of a hooligan bike. Maybe it's just me... Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: Mark Kitchell [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] Sent: Wed, October 31, 2001 4:15 PM To: Ricardo Pontes; Dccycles Subject: Re: List of beginner bikes and experienced rider bikes You are insane to put a R6, F4 and zx6 in there. How long have you been riding???? --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > > > Beginner Bikes > > -Honda Hawk gt > -honda cbr600 > -yamaha r6 > -YAMAHA 600R > - YAMAHA 600FZR > - YAMAHA SECA II > -suzuki sv650 > -kawasaki zx6 > -kawasaki katana > -kawasaki klr650 > -suzuki dr650 > -honda xr650 > KAWASAKI 750 THEY PUT OUT LAST YEAR > SUZUKI BANDIT 600 > -BMW f650 > -Aprilia pegaso > -Ktm lc4 adventure > -Ktm Duke(loads of fun) > -gsx600f katana > -gs500e > -Triumph Boneville > -Honda africa twin > -honda transalp > -yamaha xt600 > -yamaha tenere > > > Experienced Rider bikes > > > -Suzuki gsxr1000 > -suzuki gsxr750 AND 600 > -Suzuki Hayabusa > -Suzuki Tl1000r > -Honda 929rr > -honda rc51 > -honda 900rr > -honda superhawk > -Honda vfr 800f > -honda blackbird > -kawasaki zx-11, zx 12, zx9, zx7 > -Yamaha r1 > -Yamaha Vmax > -triumph daytona > -triumph speed triple > > > > > I would consider Bmw's good bikes to start out if > they werent so heavy. Im > not sure about Harley Davidsons, i never rode one. > > > Ricardo Pontes > yamaha r1 > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Oct 31 22:29:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9007.mail.yahoo.com (web9007.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.169]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id fA13TFP06646 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 22:29:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20011101032908.64582.qmail@web9007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.157.54.130] by web9007.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:29:08 PST Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:29:08 -0800 (PST) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: TSR E-News: Nov '01 To: info@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now that the 2001 season has drawn to a close, it is with great pleasure to reveal the fruits of the TSR Injury Fund's labor. --- DONATION STATISTICS In 1999, we had 49 donors for a total of $3,300... In 2000, 91 for $8,300... In 2001, 110 for $5100. Overall, 215 individuals have donated to the Injury Fund since it's inception. Next season we're going to emphasize getting a greater number of people involved. The comment we received the most is that $25($50 in '00) was just too much for a raffle ticket. So, we're going to take this suggestion, and heed your call. We have not settled on a final plan for the 2002 season, but if we do continue with a raffle theme, it will be limited to $5-$10 per ticket.(You can still buy multiple tickets, too.) We've listened to you, so please show us that we're making the right call. Using your feedback, our hope is to at least double the number of participants from 2001, so please don't miss the opportunity. ----------------- 2001 DISBURSEMENT With the $5000 that we have received this year, we had previously announced that we would donate it all to one of the New York City relief funds. To our surprise, we received a significant amount of negative reactions and feedback, so we felt that we must recant that decision. We still feel that there is a great need for the many people hurt by the September 11th tradegies, so we are going to still donate $1000 to them. Originally, we had planned to pull a $5000 cash prize winner, but that would have to be from all 500 tickets, sold or not. Considering that we only sold 205 of them, we felt that the odds of giving it away were too low, or that if someone did if fact win it, then we would be left with nothing for the cause. We brainstormed for a happy medium, and decided to pull one ticket, and reward that lucky ticket holder with $1000. Next season, if we collect $10,000 as budgeted, we will be happy to give away more, but this season just was not meant to be. So, at the GNF, we had Chuck the WERA starter randomly select that ticket, and it belonged to Nick Stewart of Charlottesville, VA. Congratulations Nick, the check is on it's way. In addition to the raffle tickets, we had our spare change bottle of donations, minus a few administrative costs, like a PO box, website charges, and state of VA fees, this leaves a balance close to $3000 to go towards easing the financial burden of three to six injured riders from the 2001 season. As of right now, we have a few candidates, but would like to hear from you about anyone you know that was hurt. We don't know of every incident that occurred this year, so please alert us of anyone that comes to mind. We would like to review each case, and make a educated determination before the year's end. -------------- DONATED PRIZES With the remaining tickets purchased in the raffle, we randomly selected tickets for each of the many donated prizes. These prizes came from individuals, race teams, and vendors in the road racing community. The winners of those prizes were: Paige & Michael Roberson, Rick Yerzak Motorsports, George Mood, Robby Card, Abby Tocorzic, Dave Hill, Loren Jury, Bill & Sherri Siewert, Bill Trowbridge, Jeff Rozycki, Mitch Hagge, Gayathri Kamath, Doug Duane, Randy Dalmas, Charles Calvert, Lee Parks, Judy Morse, Pete Friedman, Julia Allen, John Jarvais, Parker McDaniel, Jr., William Swanson, Grady Anderson, and Bill Spano. Please visit http://www.TightSqueezeRacing.org/Raffle.htm to see which prize(s) you and/or they have won! And, if you haven't already, please send us your mailing address, as some of you only gave us a telephone or email address. Also, be sure to visit the sponsor links to thank them for their involvement in our efforts. We know they don't have to, but they choose to because they care about you. Thanks to all of these companies and people for their donations: AIM Sportsystems, Blashfield Sign Companies, DB Motorsports, Fast Lane Cycles, Galfer Brakes, GP Tech, Hi-Side Racing, Jeannie Dalmas, Moto Liberty, Performance Machines, Pit Bull, The Plastic Doctor, Ram Racewares, Road Racing World & Motorcycle Technology, Sharkskinz, Sudco, Trackside Racer Supply, Team Valvoline EMGO Suzuki, Thermosman Suspensions, Team INA, Brian Clark, The Gathering Spot, The Lighthouse Restaurant. ----------------------- INFRACTIONS = DONATIONS At the GNF, WERA pledged that all of the fines collected during the week would go to the TSR Injury Fund. Oddly enought, we would like to thank those riders for their infractions(minor, we hope) turned donations, and wish to thank WERA for this kind gesture. ----------------------------- IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO DONATE So, you're thinking that the season has passed you by, and you've missed the opportunity to send us your donation? Well, please keep in mind, that there's never a bad time to donate. Today, tomorrow, or next Thursday is just as good as yesterday. If you haven't done so this year, take a moment and do so. Credit Cards can be accepted using the following link: https://secure.paypal.com/refer/pal=TightSqueezeRacing@XXXXXX Or by mail: TSR Injury Fund PO Box 40921 Arlington, VA 22204 ----------------------------- THAT'S ALL FOLKS This wraps up our 2001 contribution drive. Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions, concerns, or suggestions for or about the Injury Fund. We appreciate any and all feedback that we receive from you. Take care and see you next season, Tight Squeeze Racing www.tightsqueezeracing.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com