From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 10:34:05 1998 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15374 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:34:04 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3FCAa04134 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:33:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2a6a6e9.363c7f32@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:33:06 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 I don't think so! My bike is even shaking because it's so cold. Unless you've got a heated Gold Wing with an empty backseat, I don't think I'll be playing this game much longer. The ABATE Halloween party was great! I went as Elvira's sister... The Italian version... I had pasta and garlic bread under my cape. Great to finally meet HARLEYZMYN (Barbara) and all the ABATE members from the Montgomery and Washington Chapters! Ride Safely and Warmly Lee Andrese 98 V-Star Classic From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 15:55:04 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19172 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA19023 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14962 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:54:58 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WHWSa02538; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:54:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:54:24 EST To: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Im up for the party if given enough notice.. and whats with this "end of season" talk? its never the end of the season =) Im gonna rough if in the cold all winter long. From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 22:19:44 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23889 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc1-s10.wizard.net (tc1-s10.wizard.net [206.161.15.40]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11511 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:19:53 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Great Save! [not the Redskins] Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 22:25:54 -0500 Message-ID: <363e1d28.8166374@smtp.wizard.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I nominate myself for best "save" of the weekend!=20 I went on the Skyline Ride today and was having a fine time. We were coming down off of Skyline Drive and waiting to make the left turn onto 211. Lots of traffic to contend with [leaf peeping cages]. =20 Bike in front of me goes, I go. Bike in front of me gets halfway across and decides to stop! Ooops! I think "oh shit" I'm going to hit her and swerve to the left. Then I think "oh shit" I'm going to hit that sign post and swerve slightly to the right. Next thing I notice (after hitting my left hand *hard* on the sign post) is that my rear tire is spinning out in some gravel. Hit the kill switch and proceed to assess the situation while seated on my still upright bike. =46irst and foremost, I am quite happy that I didn't drop the bike. Second, I am also quite happy that nothing was broken, scratched or otherwise damaged. Third, I notice that my front wheel is *on* the raised grass-covered median, between a sign post and another pole. The rear wheel is still on the pavement, surrounded by gravel/dirt. =20 I apparently managed to miss the bike that stopped in front of me, hop a 4" curb, spin my rear tire creating an impressive dust cloud, and then stop the bike without hitting the sign post or the pole (which were maybe 2 feet apart). And, I didn't drop the bike (all 530+ lbs of it!)! I *know* I couldn't pull that off again! Obligatory "Lesson Learned": While the lady who stopped suddenly in front of me apologized profusely, it was my fault for following too closely and assuming that she would go all the way across. I'm just glad it turned out okay! Anita '96 GPZ1100 (the abuse I put up with!!) From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:28:39 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24752 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23056 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.154]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20100 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:28:32 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr41-dialup33.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.77.33]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33509) with SMTP id <0F1S00G5M1QJFN@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 04:28:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 23:30:11 -0500 Subject: Re: WOW, There is a god!! To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002101be0619$7e5066a0$214d37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Woohoo, congradulations Sean, it's about time you got back on the road! Hope your foot is "fixed" too. I guess you'll be riding with one eye glued to the rear view mirror from now on. 8^P Let me know if you feel like "causing some trouble" sometime. Maybe you'll let me compare the before and after performance upgrades. hehe Jon >Just got my TLR back today.... new m4 pipes and dynojet pc... hmm.. definately >worth the wait. Its incredible how much more this bike pulls and wheelies now. >Also got a new helmet, the Shoei rf-800 with the Picotte design on it. anyone >who has seen this helmet, knows its a love it or hate it looking thing. >Hunter orange with a joker on either side. very nicely done by troy lee >designs and much more comfortable than my last shoei. Anyway... talk to you >all later. see ya on the road (finally!) > >Sean... >98 TLR From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:36:59 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24872 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:36:53 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr41-dialup33.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.77.33]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33507) with SMTP id <0F1S005M724420@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 04:36:10 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 23:38:20 -0500 Subject: Speeding ticket fix To: DC Cycle Club , Fizzer Squad Message-id: <002e01be061a$a17b95e0$214d37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I know this came around a little while ago, but has anyone really tried this and has it worked successfully? This came across the 400 race list and was wondering if this is just bullshit or real. I have a couple speeding tickets that I would like to go away. Don't know if it's worth the risk in putting out the money and waiting to see if it works, or just going to court and getting the fines/points reduced. Lemme know if you all know anything about this....... Jon dawn.jon@XXXXXX >>Useful Info for Speeding Tickets >> >>If you ever get in this situation, you have an out. This procedure works >>in any state. Read it and try it, you have nothing to lose but the points >>in your license. >> >>If you get a speeding ticket or went through a red light or whatever the >>case may be, and you are going to get points on your license, then there >>is a method to ensure that you DO NOT get any points. When you get your >>fine, send in the check to pay for it and if the fine is say $79, then >>make the check out for $82 or some small amount above the fine. The system >>will then have to send you back a check for the difference, but here is >>the trick! ---DO NOT CASH THE CHECK!! Throw it away! Points are not >>assessed to your license until all the financial transactions are >>complete. If you do not cash the check, then the transactions are not >>complete. However the system has gotten its money so it is happy and will >>not bother you any more. >> >>SOURCE: Thoonen Production Administrator RACV Touring >>Publications. From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:38:00 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24882 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.36]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Sun, 01 Nov 1998 23:34:59 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:39:56 -0500 Message-ID: <004201be061a$d76fd760$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <2a6a6e9.363c7f32@aol.com> Like I've said, it's just now getting comfy to wear full riding gear. $30 heated grips, and you'll be ready to go. BTW, the new K12LT has a heated seat as standard on the upper trim levels (optional on lower levels). Or, you can get a heated seat from Corbin for the K11 and the GLs. I got a mad idea for selling the idea of a sidecar to Angie: get a heater core from the local junkyard (and probably a rat cage as well) and put it in the hack. Now I just gotta get her to buy a hack, and figure out how to plumb it into the Wing (thinking a t-valve into the radiator hoses) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > -----Original Message----- > From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX [mailto:LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX] > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 1998 10:33 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** > > > I don't think so! > My bike is even shaking because it's so cold. Unless you've got > a heated Gold > Wing with an empty backseat, I don't think I'll be playing this game much > longer. > > The ABATE Halloween party was great! I went as Elvira's > sister... The Italian > version... I had pasta and garlic bread under my cape. Great to > finally meet > HARLEYZMYN (Barbara) and all the ABATE members from the Montgomery and > Washington Chapters! > > Ride Safely and Warmly > Lee Andrese > 98 V-Star Classic > From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:47:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24991 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23241 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20368 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:47:21 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WEGUa02082 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:46:43 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <428768e1.363d3933@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:46:43 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 What's this talk of heated grips and heated seats? Bah... I prefer to bundle up like the Michelin Man. :) Robert "Just kidding!!" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:48:17 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA25001 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23256 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (known pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20384 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA18562; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:44:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:43:25 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Weekday Rides - chain To: LungHD@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <4d9248d0.363a6e30@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > Chain?..... Chain? What's a chain? ?:^| It's what you gotta convert to,to get one of those 200 width tires on the back of the Hog(tm). ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 00:00:34 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA25180 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA18667; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:56:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:51:34 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Its Back; Well Sort of . . . To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN wrote: > And be sure that every little thing that is wrong with (even if you did it) > gets blamed on the thief and have the insurance company pay for it. Agreed.A friend of mine had his bike stolen and was lucky enough to get it back(especially since it was still financed and he had no insurance!).He took the bike to a dealership and had them go over it with a fine tooth comb.He gave the results to the prosecutor and had the bad guy pay for everything(actually garnished his wages). The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 00:04:11 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA25213 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA18845; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:00:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:59:56 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Update #2 To: "Burger, Donald " cc: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <038DA3639DCD600A*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Oct 1998, Burger, Donald wrote: > Now for the bad part, the perp is a juvenile so most likely he's going to > get off fairly easily. SH*T! Maybe you can sue the parents? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 00:13:15 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA25378 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA18898; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:09:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:06:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Morris Berman wrote: > 120mm is nice for direct fire. > But I'll put my 155mm indirect fire, artillary support against your 120mm > any day. And it'll blow you away :-) > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Kirk Roy wrote: > > Thanks but I'll stick to my 120mm gun... :) I'd rather not think of the > > puny 76mm jobbies at all... Ah, the sheer boredom that is friday! Ewww...slugthrowers.I'll take a nice satellite-based laser. Er,not that we have any of those. ;-} The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 02:37:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28234 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA26126 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (known pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA22361 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA20236; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:33:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:28:39 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Weekday Rides To: LungHD@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5b73be76.363a656a@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > Hmmm. That might explain the coal shovel that came with my bike. > *Stoking 'er up for the morning ride.* On that subject;boy do I love the jetted carb on my Dyna.I didn't bother playing with the Buells' carbs,cause it was too much of a pain.If I'd a known how much quicker they would've warmed up with proper jetting,I would've gone to the trouble.The Buells took about 5 min each to warm up and then would spit and backfire.The Dyna is ready in about 1.5-2 min and runs with no probs. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 02:45:39 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28353 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA20273; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:42:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:37:24 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 10/31/98 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <523a463c.363bd163@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 HiCapMag@XXXXXX wrote: > The design, you mean? The helmet itself is dapper as a silk suit, and cozy as > a bear den as far as I'm concerned. I saw it in matte black with the smoked > silver-iridium plate and had to have it. Shudder.Too much like the Buell helmets for me. > And no more Miami Vice- > flashback graphics, or gloss of any kind for that matter, maligning my skull > about town. Loud(colored) helmets save lives. ;-) > But there's always gotta be a gripe: Those "quick change" sideplate gears > defy manipulation -- though I must confess to having hams for fingers. Are you raising the shield all the way before removing/installing them? I think they've got the best system around;just slide the levers down and pop the shield on/off.Way easier than the take-it-apart-with-a-bunch-of -little-pieces system my old Kiwi K16 had. 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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE061A.A7444C60-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 07:52:29 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA03936 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AB08A7500BC; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 07:52:24 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102075430.00fafa20@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 07:55:11 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Remembering a disk lock In-Reply-To: References: <363948C2.8AE38686@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:02 PM 10/29/98 , Gil M. Nissley wrote: > Got a better idea,use the dick lock in conjunction with a >Barb Wire Cable. Souonds like you've been watching too much Pamela Lee Anderson lately. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 07:57:15 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA04024 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:57:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102125829.22516.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 04:58:29 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 04:58:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Intro - long To: Dale Horstman Cc: Todd Peer , sheri bierman , DC-Cycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You got it, sort of. We're either Way Up North or in Hell, not that there's a difference... North of I-10 is Up North, north of I-20 is Way Up North. And to clear up any other confusion, I'm the worlds leading expert on eating barbecue,not cooking it. ---Dale Horstman wrote: > > Professor Ray wrote: > > > > Okay, so far we have several "geographically challenged" persons here > > (PC for you can't read a map). Snake thinks this is the East (If you > > can't see the Atlantic, or at least the ICW, you ain't east) and Sheri > > thinks this is the South! (If you can't get good barbeque, and I am > > the world's leading expert on Barbeque, it ain't the South). > > So if we're not the East, and we're not the South, where are we? > Hell? (That's actually a pretty fair guess... :) > > -- > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:09:45 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04398 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:09:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102131101.20838.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:11:01 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:11:01 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Quiz OTD To: Mark Petty , "'cycles'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm glad to see that this Volvo thing is a world-wide problem, not just in the US. ---Mark Petty wrote: > > If you've got the Friday blahs, go figure out what kinda biker you > are... > > http://www.motorcycleworld.co.uk/advertorial/lloydsquiz/index.htm > > (of course, it brings to mind the old quote "England and America are two > great countries divided by a common language."*) > > -Mark > '83 V65 Magna > > *or somesuch. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:14:46 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04488 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:14:38 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 02 Nov 1998 08:14:35 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 02 Nov 1998 08:14:35 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 01D61363DB03B00E-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 01D61363DB03B00E Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <01D61363DB03B00E*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 02 Nov 1998 08:14:35 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: DC Cycles Subject: Stolen Bike Update #3 Message-Id: <01D61363DB03B00E*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> On Saturday, Glenn and I (kudos to Glenn) went to the lot to pick up the bike, it cost $125 to get the bike out of the lot, what a rip off. What was even worse was they didn't even check my ID, registration or anything. I could have just been driving by saw the bike and came back with a trailer to pick it up. All these guys cared about was getting the $125 and getting me out of the office so they could go back to drinking and sleeping. Then we took it over to Coleman's for them to estimate the damage. They think it will be fixable, bummer! I told them make sure they go over it with a fine tooth comb and include EVERYTHING that is scratched. One of the good things about having the bike dusted for prints is it makes even the small scratches show up very easily. The estimate should be ready on Wednesday afternoon so I'll keep everyone posted when I get it. Playing the price is right, my guess is $4,000 but I'll find out soon enough. Anyone out there want to buy an nice F3? Its only been stolen AND crashed one time. I didn't think so. Don B. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:19:28 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04529 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA29258 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:19:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known [199.122.55.11] [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26606 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:19:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by animal.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4Y7ZYB1K>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Morris Berman'" , "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:18:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain True. Got me there. -----Original Message----- From: Morris Berman [mailto:mberman@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 5:20 PM To: Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO Cc: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain But how many of the good West VA roads are within firing distance of the New Jersey? :P On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO wrote: > Ah, yes, but aim the 16-inch guns (3 barrels X 3 turrets=9 total barrels) of > the USS New Jersey at a shoreline and see who blinks. Beautiful ships -- > too bad they're no more. > > Mitch > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Morris Berman [mailto:mberman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 11:28 AM > To: Kirk Roy > Cc: DC-Cycles Mailing List > Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain > > > 120mm is nice for direct fire. > But I'll put my 155mm indirect fire, artillary support against your 120mm > any day. And it'll blow you away :-) > > Note: for the sarcasm impaired...figure it out. > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Kirk Roy wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Ray wrote: > > > 30mm is closer to 1.2 inches than to .5 inch > > > 40mm is closer to 1.5 inches than to .5 inch > > > 25.4mm = one inch, > > > or if it's easier,think of a 76mm gun as a 3 incher and a 9mm as a .38 > > > calibre. > > > > Thanks but I'll stick to my 120mm gun... :) I'd rather not think of the > > puny 76mm jobbies at all... Ah, the sheer boredom that is friday! > > > > Kirk > > > > -Mb > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX > '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) > #446884 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. > -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted > <=-=-=-=-=- > > Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying > to > cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams > -Mb ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:21:36 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04606 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:21:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102132258.498.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:22:58 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:22:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Intro - long To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Exactly what part of the South is Utah? Last time I looked at a map, Utah was north of I-20. The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic. The West Coast is Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples etc. and Californy is "that other coast". ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > Ray wrote: > > > > Okay, so far we have several "geographically challenged" > > persons here (PC for you can't read a map). Snake thinks > > this is the East (If you can't see the Atlantic, or at least > > the ICW, you ain't east) > > If it's east of Denver, it IS the east coast. :) > > > and Sheri thinks this is the South! (If you can't get good > > barbeque, and I am the world's leading expert on Barbeque, > > it ain't the South). > > I am an honorary Southerner. I lived in Utah. :) > > As for BBQ, I spent the last 4 years outside of Kansas City. There is > this little BBQ place right there in Leavenworth that is the best I have > ever had. He catered all the getogethers (ie ABATE, fundraisers, etc) > at all the bars. He even sponsored our stock car (we ran at I-70 and > Lakeside Speedways, bith NASCAR tracks). > > So, I am the poster child for the "geographically challenged". > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:31:18 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04794 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:31:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102133234.28268.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:32:34 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:32:34 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Weekday Rides - chain To: Boiade@XXXXXX, kirk@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just know about two guns on two ships that both had problems. ---Boiade@XXXXXX wrote: > > In a message dated 10/30/98 11:59:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, > raymondlucas@XXXXXX writes: > > << Those Italian > 76mm's on the other hand can fire once before they fall apart. Don't > think I'm anti-Italians, >> > BS, I happen to work for the company that now owns the former Oto-Melara and > Breda companies, now our Oto-Breda Division. > > Our 76mm and 127 mm 3 1/2 and 5 inch guns are the most used worldwide. Infact > our old 127mm (5 inch) is licensed to United Defense (formerly FMC) and is > used on most U.S. Navy ships. The United Defense built gun under our license > is now (for us) obsolete and our current gun is a 25 round per minute gun > while the old gun built under license by United Defense is still an 18 round > per minute gun. Do you know anything about artillery? > > Ciao, > > Fred > > Ciao, > > Fred > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:51:01 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05112 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:51:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102135217.11499.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:52:17 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Its Back; Well Sort of . . . To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't forget that Picasso you had bungeed to the pillion. ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN wrote: > > And be sure that every little thing that is wrong with (even if you did it) > > gets blamed on the thief and have the insurance company pay for it. > > Agreed.A friend of mine had his bike stolen and was lucky enough to > get it back(especially since it was still financed and he had no > insurance!).He took the bike to a dealership and had them go over it > with a fine tooth comb.He gave the results to the prosecutor and had > the bad guy pay for everything(actually garnished his wages). > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:52:32 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05122 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:52:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102135348.6284.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:53:48 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:53:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain To: "Gil M. Nissley" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a friend who was stationed on a carrier. They bought a junker car and launched it from the catapult, he had some really cool pictures. ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Morris Berman wrote: > > 120mm is nice for direct fire. > > But I'll put my 155mm indirect fire, artillary support against your 120mm > > any day. And it'll blow you away :-) > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Kirk Roy wrote: > > > Thanks but I'll stick to my 120mm gun... :) I'd rather not think of the > > > puny 76mm jobbies at all... Ah, the sheer boredom that is friday! > > Ewww...slugthrowers.I'll take a nice satellite-based laser. > > Er,not that we have any of those. ;-} > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:01:05 1998 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05282 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:01:04 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id 3MIAa09167 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:00:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:00:20 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Intro - long Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >Exactly what part of the South is Utah? It's the southwest, and it's one of my favorite places to ride motorcycles. Too bad I can't get to it in one day anymore. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:02:59 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05292 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:02:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA19362; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:02:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811021402.JAA19362@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Ray" , Subject: Re: Intro - long Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:02:22 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE063F.80765EA0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE063F.80765EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Ray > To: Marvin Heilesen ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Intro - long > Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 8:22 AM > > Exactly what part of the South is Utah? Last time I looked at a map, > Utah was north of I-20. I-80 runs right through Utah, so it qualifies as the "South". Haven't you ever heard of 'Southern Utah'? > The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal > (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic. The West Coast is > Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples etc. and Californy is "that > other coast". California is the 'Left Coast'. "God's Country" consists of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Everything else is designated by which direction it is from there..... Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE063F.80765EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



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> From: Ray <raymondlucas@XXXXXX>
> To: Marvin Heilesen <snake69@XXXXXX>; = dc-cycles@XXXXXX
> Subject: Re: Intro - long
> Date: = Monday, November 02, 1998 8:22 AM
>
> Exactly what part of = the South is Utah?  Last time I looked at a map,
> Utah was = north of I-20.  

I-80 runs right = through Utah, so it qualifies as the "South".  Haven't = you ever heard of 'Southern Utah'?

> = The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal =
> (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic. =  The West Coast is
> Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples = etc. and Californy is "that
> other coast".

California is = the 'Left Coast'.  "God's Country" consists of Idaho, = Montana, and Wyoming.  Everything else is designated by which = direction it is from there.....

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE063F.80765EA0-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:03:56 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05312 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13732 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:05:21 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0B7@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: leathers FS Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:05:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain This came across the race list...any smaller folks looking for leathers..... email him, not me.... 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We can accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover, and good old American Greenbacks. _________________________________________________________________ Bob Laszko Aramel Racing rml@XXXXXX PO Box 2828 WSMC/CCS/FUSA #107 Fallbrook, CA 92088 AMA #117 www.aramel.com AFM #537 (760) 728-4397 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:16:31 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05521 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaKmB-0004xo-01; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:16:11 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:14:08 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD36@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'2xracers@XXXXXX'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Great Save! [not the Redskins] Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:14:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain YOU GO, GIRL! : ) Great save! - Jeannette > First and foremost, I am quite happy that I didn't drop the bike. > Second, I am also quite happy that nothing was broken, scratched or > otherwise damaged. Third, I notice that my front wheel is *on* the > raised grass-covered median, between a sign post and another pole. > The rear wheel is still on the pavement, surrounded by gravel/dirt. > > I apparently managed to miss the bike that stopped in front of me, hop > a 4" curb, spin my rear tire creating an impressive dust cloud, and > then stop the bike without hitting the sign post or the pole (which > were maybe 2 feet apart). And, I didn't drop the bike (all 530+ lbs > of it!)! I *know* I couldn't pull that off again! > > Obligatory "Lesson Learned": While the lady who stopped suddenly in > front of me apologized profusely, it was my fault for following too > closely and assuming that she would go all the way across. I'm just > glad it turned out okay! > > Anita > '96 GPZ1100 (the abuse I put up with!!) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:18:09 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05539 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaKo0-0005An-01; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:18:04 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:16:01 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD37@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'George Howell'" , LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:16:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain GREAT riding weather has just come! hee hee Well, when it gets really cold, I use my Gerbing electric jacket liner to keep my toasty. While the peds are shivering on the sidewalks looking at me like I'm outta my mind, I'm toasty warm akin to being wrapped in an electric blanket. : ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: George Howell [SMTP:ghowell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 1998 11:40 PM > To: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** > > Like I've said, it's just now getting comfy to wear full riding gear. > $30 > heated grips, and you'll be ready to go. BTW, the new K12LT has a > heated > seat as standard on the upper trim levels (optional on lower levels). > Or, > you can get a heated seat from Corbin for the K11 and the GLs. > > ---------------------------------------- > -George Howell > ghowell@XXXXXX > georgehowell@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:24:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05635 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00090 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (known send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27739 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102142539.24964.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 06:25:39 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:25:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The only "end of season" I have ever celebrated is the end of Hurricane Season, but I just moved up here and I'm not used to the local customs or language. Ray ---CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX wrote: > > Im up for the party if given enough notice.. and whats with this "end of > season" talk? its never the end of the season =) Im gonna rough if in the cold > all winter long. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:41:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05837 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00325 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28095 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:40:58 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WSEBa02538 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:40:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <95058a44.363dc44d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:40:13 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Stolen Bike Update #3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/2/98 8:20:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, Donald.Burger@XXXXXX writes: << Anyone out there want to buy an nice F3? Its only been stolen AND crashed one time. I didn't think so. >> Offer it at salvage value and its SOLD. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:44:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05934 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00389 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28200 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:44:01 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WEBCa02301 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:43:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:43:23 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: WOW, There is a god!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Great to have you back out there Sean! Have you tinkered with your DJPC yet? Mine will be here on Wednesday (got it secondhand for $275!) and I was curious if you have played with it yet. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:51:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06045 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00459 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28395 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA03493; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:50:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102145051.RELB20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:50:51 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: More Thievery Was: Just Back from the Storage Lot . . . by Metro Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:49:13 -0500 Message-ID: <000901be066f$f5291780$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Well, I was working from the naive perspective that everyone (100%) of the people on this list are good and would be on their best behaviour in someone elses home. I too had a party one time, my roommate at the time invited an s-load of people and unfortunately for us both, he didn't know some of the people they invited. Long story short, 12 cds missing, half his and half mine. Doesn't mean I won't have parties in the future, but I think I'll limit the guests to people I know and trust. Oh well. T > > Sorry to hear about your liner Todd. Thats the shitty thing > about holding a > party. I had a party at my place once. Ended up about $75 > poorer and 10 CDs > short. > I NEVER hold parties again. > > Jack > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:53:20 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06055 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:53:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102145424.8784.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 06:54:24 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Intro - long To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a friend who thinks anything to the right of the Pathetic Coast Highway is the East Coast. I have another friend who got out of the military and never went north of the Seven Mile Bridge again (40 miles up the overseas highway from Key West FL). I have another friend that drove to Key West and said "That Seven Mile Bridge must be ten miles long!" Yes, he really said that. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > > > ---------- > > From: Ray > > To: Marvin Heilesen ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Intro - long > > Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 8:22 AM > > > > Exactly what part of the South is Utah? Last time I looked at a map, > > Utah was north of I-20. > > I-80 runs right through Utah, so it qualifies as the "South". Haven't you > ever heard of 'Southern Utah'? > > > The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal > > (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic. The West Coast is > > Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples etc. and Californy is "that > > other coast". > > California is the 'Left Coast'. "God's Country" consists of Idaho, > Montana, and Wyoming. Everything else is designated by which direction it > is from there..... > > Snake



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> From: Ray <raymondlucas@XXXXXX>
> To: Marvin Heilesen <snake69@XXXXXX>; dc-cycles@XXXXXX
> Subject: Re: Intro - long
> Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 8:22 AM
>
> Exactly what part of the South is Utah?  Last time I looked at a map,
> Utah was north of I-20.  

I-80 runs right through Utah, so it qualifies as the "South".  Haven't you ever heard of 'Southern Utah'?

> The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal
> (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic.  The West Coast is
> Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples etc. and Californy is "that
> other coast".

California is the 'Left Coast'.  "God's Country" consists of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming.  Everything else is designated by which direction it is from there.....

Snake

_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:00:29 1998 Return-Path: tgimer@XXXXXX Received: from cusrva.cua.edu ([136.242.10.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06218 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smart.net ([136.242.149.159]) by cua.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29119) with ESMTP id <01J3OZYZ4LY490MWMP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:59:50 EST Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:04:45 -0500 From: Tom Gimer Subject: Post classifieds To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <363DCA0D.A14FEDC@smart.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit To anyone with some spare cash who is looking for a great bike at an excellent price: there is a black '95 Suzuki RF900 in today's post for $4900/obo. Just a heads up to potential buyers. -- Tom Gimer From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:16:56 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06436 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:16:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811021516.KAA06436@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:16:47 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Intro - long Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:14:10 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) AMEN to that.. of course, little bits of Utah, Colorado and Canada (hehe.. how'd Canada get named?  2 of em were sitting round thinkin.. one said C eh, N eh, D eh?)  are included in "God's Country" too..  Man I miss those roads..   Brian ('nother proper westerner) -----Original Message----- California is the 'Left Coast'.  "God's Country" consists of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming.  Everything else is designated by which direction it is from there..... Snake From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:29:50 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06633 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:29:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19730 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:31:16 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0B9@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:31:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Some of this will be a repeat of the message I sent out last week when the dc-cycles list server was going haywire.... Well, I recently was selected by the Coast Guard to attend post-graduate school as my next duty rotation. Today, I sent in the acceptance letter, effectively commiting myself to another 8 years in the CG... This decision is going to make it very difficult for me to advance my racing career much farther than the club level, but I'll still try hard for it. Besides, this will ensure the bills stayed paid and maybe help keep enough $$ around to do more racing. I'll be attending the University of Michigan (up there in the frozen tundra land) starting next summer. Basically, that means Pen and I will be moving sometime around mid April to early May depending on how much leave I have to burn off...I fully intend to make every Summit Point race next season, so I'll still be in the area on occsasion. Ans since the inlaws live in Woodbridge now, I'm sure we'll be down this way on long holidays and school breaks, etc., so you'll know I'll be bringing a bike to run out and hide in the back roads with :) The one good thing about going to umich next year is that I may get to move up my initiation to AMA racing by a season. If I can get to a club level race or to at Road America or Brainerd to familiarize myself with the track, I am planning on attempting the AMA 750 Supersport races at each of those tracks!! Woohoo..getting blown away by the big boys... Collin From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:32:24 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06674 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA06434; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:31:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102153140.RSZE20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:31:40 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "George Howell" , , Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:30:02 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01be0675$a8dc4220$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <004201be061a$d76fd760$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Importance: Normal > Like I've said, it's just now getting comfy to wear full riding gear. $30 > heated grips, and you'll be ready to go. BTW, the new K12LT has a heated > seat as standard on the upper trim levels (optional on lower levels). Or, > you can get a heated seat from Corbin for the K11 and the GLs. > > I got a mad idea for selling the idea of a sidecar to Angie: get a heater > core from the local junkyard (and probably a rat cage as well) > and put it in > the hack. Now I just gotta get her to buy a hack, and figure out how to > plumb it into the Wing (thinking a t-valve into the radiator hoses) > > ---------------------------------------- > -George Howell Why don't you just get a nice car and quit trying to torture the poor girl :) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:35:21 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06762 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:35:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20113 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0BA@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: luggage bags Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain With a trip to the hardware store tonight for some onger bolts, the Nonfango hard bags I bought from Colleen will be mounted on the Maxim. Pretty sad when I have more invested in the luggage than the bike though :) Now all I need to do is find a good cheap windshield for the bike and it's ready to be a full fledged baby tourer!! For those of you at the party that thought I looked really weird on the Maxim (opposed to those that just think I look really weird anyhow), just imagine me with a windshield, saddlebags and a trunk!!! he he he... no more backpack for me!! Thanks again to Colleen for having cool stuff at great prices...Check out her stuff at www.leatherexchange.com Looked like she had some really nice pants and jackets when we were there the other night! Collin From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:37:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06774 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA01166 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from newfrontiers.nfis.com (known [206.151.91.4] [206.151.91.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29735 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from nfis.com (pub61.hunt2.nfis.com [206.151.91.161]) by newfrontiers.nfis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA28995; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:42:04 -0500 Message-ID: <363DD173.9D811C73@nfis.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:36:19 -0500 From: Louis Tweed X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "balt-cycles@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Kawasaki part Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I friend from work handed me a Kawasaki part the other day. Somehow he ended up with a turn signal for a Kawasaki. Kawasaki Part Number 23040-1157. If anyone has a use for this part please email me at ltweed@XXXXXX Pay for the shipping and it is yours. Louis From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:43:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06871 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA01271 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:43:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from msexchange.calibresys.com (known calibresys.com [208.206.170.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29978 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by calibresys.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:45:49 -0500 Message-ID: <282883058DC6D11194D300609709600BBC3247@calibresys.com> From: Stan Hopkins To: Louis Tweed , balt-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Kawasaki part Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:45:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Please take me off your mailing list. I'm on by mistake. -----Original Message----- From: Louis Tweed [mailto:ltweed@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 10:36 AM To: balt-cycles@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Kawasaki part I friend from work handed me a Kawasaki part the other day. Somehow he ended up with a turn signal for a Kawasaki. Kawasaki Part Number 23040-1157. If anyone has a use for this part please email me at ltweed@XXXXXX Pay for the shipping and it is yours. Louis From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:52:14 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06998 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA06536 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:52:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811021552.KAA06536@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:51:33 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE064E.C1BA9980" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE064E.C1BA9980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > GREAT riding weather has just come! hee hee > Well, when it gets really cold, I use my Gerbing electric jacket liner > to keep my toasty. While the peds are shivering on the sidewalks > looking at me like I'm outta my mind, I'm toasty warm akin to being > wrapped in an electric blanket. : ) I don't mind riding in the cold, but I found out this weekend I need some new gloves. The "Wal-Mart Specials" do not keep out the cold at 80. Now to worry about my 12,000 mile maintenance. Not bad for a 7 month old bike..... :) ------=_NextPart_000_01BE064E.C1BA9980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> GREAT riding weather has just = come!  hee hee
> Well, when it gets really cold, I use my = Gerbing electric jacket liner
> to keep my toasty.  While the = peds are shivering on the sidewalks
> looking at me like I'm outta = my mind, I'm toasty warm akin to being
> wrapped in an electric = blanket.  : )

I don't mind riding in = the cold, but I found out this weekend I need some new gloves.  The = "Wal-Mart Specials" do not keep out the cold at 80.

Now = to worry about my 12,000 mile maintenance.  Not bad for a 7 month = old bike.....  :)

------=_NextPart_000_01BE064E.C1BA9980-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:06:57 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07219 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11693 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:06:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981102110513.00acfcc0@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:07:04 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0B9@MSCEX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Collin -- Lots of luck! Grad school will be the best & worst time of your life. It certainly was for me. The hardest work I ever did, education-wise, but also the most rewarding. I'm planning on spending some quality time next season @ Summit Point. A friend of mine is moving from 500's to 600's and trying to convince me I need to start racing 500's. We'll see... --w Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB-750 "Extra Sled" I've never been to good with names But I remember faces... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:13:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07316 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01763 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01140 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-03.dial.nova.org (ra1-03.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.163]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA18837 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:13:41 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:19:30 GMT Message-ID: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want that) but simply a just thing to do. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:14:19 1998 Return-Path: mdpetty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07327 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <46K8TLT7>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:10:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: "'cycles'" Subject: For holloween Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:10:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Most memorable costume of the night... JP, the 10 year old from next door, who's dad crashed his Harley a few months back (while wearing a t-shirt and beanie, but is doing much better now), went as a dead biker. I really can't imagine how he got his mother to let him do it. -Mark '83 V65 Magna From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:19:30 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07388 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AB8BBA027E; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:19:23 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102112004.01f042d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:20:56 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** In-Reply-To: <000d01be0675$a8dc4220$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> References: <004201be061a$d76fd760$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:30 AM 11/2/98 , Todd Peer wrote: >Why don't you just get a nice car and quit trying to torture the poor girl >:) Heathen! Philistine! Off with his head! :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:19:40 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07391 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AB80BA027E; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:19:12 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102111844.01f035e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:19:39 -0500 To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0B9@MSCEX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:31 AM 11/2/98 , Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: >Well, I recently was selected by the Coast Guard to attend post-graduate >school as my next duty rotation. wow! congratulations. >The one good thing about going to umich next year is that I may get to move >up my initiation to AMA racing by a season. What I want to hear about is the ICE racing! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:22:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07493 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01891 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (known imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01449 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:22:35 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id FFDUa02328; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:21:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:21:30 EST To: gnissley@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Weekday Rides Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 >On that subject;boy do I love the jetted carb on my Dyna.I didn't bother >playing with the Buells' carbs,cause it was too much of a pain.If I'd a >known how much quicker they would've warmed up with proper jetting,I >would've gone to the trouble.The Buells took about 5 min each to warm up >and then would spit and backfire.The Dyna is ready in about 1.5-2 min >and runs with no probs. Yeah, rejetting the CV does wonders. I installed a S.E. aircleaner kit & DynoJet ThunderSlide in the CV & got major improvements all around. Warm up is faster than stock CV w/stock airbox and has more power from the basement on up. With the V&H pipes the engine oil temp runs about 10 degrees cooler too. Lung -Buying cheap beer to pay for that wide tire kit..... anyone have the antidote for Pabst Blue Ribbon?- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:26:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07516 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01929 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com (known piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01560 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AD41152028E; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:26:41 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102113041.01f09020@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:31:02 -0500 To: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy), dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:19 AM 11/2/98 , Kirk Roy wrote: >Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party >I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to >make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was >confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd >have to foot the whole bill. ... This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want >that) but simply a just thing to do. I'm in. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:27:13 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07589 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:27:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102162720.941.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:27:20 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:27:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Intro - long To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ever hear the Canadian alphabet? A B, eh C, eh ... ---"McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > > AMEN to that.. of course, little bits of Utah, Colorado and Canada (hehe.. > how'd Canada get named?  2 of em were sitting round thinkin.. one said C eh, > N eh, D eh?)  are included in "God's Country" too..  Man I miss those > roads.. >   > Brian ('nother proper westerner) > > -----Original Message----- > > California is the 'Left Coast'.  "God's Country" consists of Idaho, Montana, > and Wyoming.  Everything else is designated by which direction it is from > there..... > > Snake > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:31:21 1998 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07641 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:31:19 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3ZPWa02538 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:30:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:30:44 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: ice racing (was Big Plans...some moto) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >What I want to hear about is the ICE racing! Once I saw a promotion poster for this that said "you go down, you come up ground-round" How do you think Vanson perforates their leathers? Colleen From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:32:53 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07661 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA02069 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01783 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:32:46 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WLHHa07909 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:31:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:31:47 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 You can count me in! I'm suprised someone would steal that, but I'll chip in to replace it. Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:35:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07751 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:35:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA02130 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01877 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:35:25 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B0.005AA0C2 ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:29:53 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B0.00595632.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:29:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want that) but simply a just thing to do. Sounds like a great idea. You can count me in for this. Steve From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:07:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08215 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02606 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03164 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:07:31 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WTRHa10441 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:06:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41898f7a.363de6b3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:06:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Im in too. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:25:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08454 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02832 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net (known mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03649 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from brat.knowhere.net (port26.annex1.radix.net [209.48.225.26]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA01242; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:24:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363DEB45.D6D@radix.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:26:29 -0500 From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Reply-To: dreamer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Roy CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kirk Roy wrote: > > Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party > I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to > make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was > confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd > have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party > and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace > Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this > thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for > our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want > that) but simply a just thing to do. I agree 100%!! Count me in for my share. Stealing Todd's liner was a really shabby thing to do, especially to a party host! Dawn '96 Virago 1100 Special, Knowmad From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:29:25 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08544 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02894 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (known usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03827 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:28:52 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 02 Nov 1998 12:28:51 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 02 Nov 1998 12:28:51 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 018A8363DEBD3007-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 018A8363DEBD3007 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <018A8363DEBD3007*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 02 Nov 1998 12:28:51 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: "(Kirk Roy)" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Message-Id: <018A8363DEBD3007*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> What address should I mail a check to? Don B -----Original Message----- From: (Kirk Roy) [SMTP:kirk@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:32 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Todd's jacket liner Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want that) but simply a just thing to do. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:34:37 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08593 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:34:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102173558.8466.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:35:58 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:35:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: My Bikes and I Are Looking For A Home To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My seven bikes and I want to move sometime between Dec 15 98 and Feb 15 99 (giving my current home 30 days notice). If you have room for an extra person and bikes and need rent money, or if you want to search out a place together, let me know. My hobbies are AHRMA and WERA roadracing and I am the world's leading expert on barbecue. If you know of anyone interested please pass this on. Contact me off-list at rlucas@XXXXXX or 410 762 6710 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:40:00 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08686 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA28839 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:39:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981102123826.00ad3400@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:40:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: HTML E-mail Messages (no M/C) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gang-- For those of us who are using e-mail programs that do not process HTML code, please do not send messages to the list with text formatting (bold/italics, font size or color changes). These messages are difficult to read with some e-mail clients. Thanks. wes Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB-750 "Extra Sled" I've never been to good with names But I remember faces... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:41:43 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08699 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29841 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:41:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981102124120.00accde0@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:41:53 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" me 2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:46:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08859 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03193 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil (known Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA04263 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by pentagon-dadc012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:42:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'kirk@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:42:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Kirk, great idea! Count me in as well. Glenn > Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party > I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to > make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was > confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd > have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party > and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace > Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this > thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for > our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want > that) but simply a just thing to do. > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:52:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08967 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:52:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03288 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from netgate.anent.com (known netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA04420 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from bruce ([208.195.115.37] (may be forged)) by netgate.anent.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00550; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:55:05 -0500 Message-ID: <01c001be0689$89e7ab20$2573c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "Kirk Roy" , Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:52:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 I'm with ya! Just let me know! >Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party >I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to >make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was >confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd >have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party >and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace >Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this >thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for >our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want >that) but simply a just thing to do. > >Kirk > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 13:02:46 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09099 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:02:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA18528; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:02:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102180200.TTMP20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:02:00 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , "DCCycles List" Subject: RE: My Bikes and I Are Looking For A Home Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:00:21 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01be068a$a8a08c20$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981102173558.8466.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal Ray, you sound like quite a character. I actually do have room in my home for a roomie, but my garage is suffering from NFSS (No Floor Space Syndrome). As soon as I can sell off a couple....well damn. I don't even think I could comfortably fit six bikes in there! Todd > > > My seven bikes and I want to move sometime between Dec 15 98 and Feb > 15 99 (giving my current home 30 days notice). If you have room for > an extra person and bikes and need rent money, or if you want to > search out a place together, let me know. My hobbies are AHRMA and > WERA roadracing and I am the world's leading expert on barbecue. If > you know of anyone interested please pass this on. > > Contact me off-list at rlucas@XXXXXX or 410 762 6710 > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 13:08:23 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09195 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:08:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102180939.26416.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:09:39 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: My Bikes and I Are Looking For A Home To: Todd Peer , DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How big is your backyard? I'm willing to build a garage as part of the rent. I thought you lived in Richmond or something? ---Todd Peer wrote: > > Ray, you sound like quite a character. I actually do have room in my home > for a roomie, but my garage is suffering from NFSS (No Floor Space > Syndrome). As soon as I can sell off a couple....well damn. I don't even > think I could comfortably fit six bikes in there! > > Todd > > > > > > > My seven bikes and I want to move sometime between Dec 15 98 and Feb > > 15 99 (giving my current home 30 days notice). If you have room for > > an extra person and bikes and need rent money, or if you want to > > search out a place together, let me know. My hobbies are AHRMA and > > WERA roadracing and I am the world's leading expert on barbecue. If > > you know of anyone interested please pass this on. > > > > Contact me off-list at rlucas@XXXXXX or 410 762 6710 > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > DO YOU YAHOO!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 13:51:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09929 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04273 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (known imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06096 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:50:51 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id WLZFa09167 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:49:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6e063c54.363dfecc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:49:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: ERC Class Attendees - range Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 I still think we should just use the pentagon parking lot. Its public property so there is no way in hell that they can tell us to go away. As long as we try to seclude ourselves a bit from the other people and show a good example we should be just fine. I used to work at the pentagon and REGULARLY saw things of this type being done on the weekends (mostly to the tune of street hockey games where they took up the WHOLE parking lot at times). I really dont think anyone would mind. And if they do the worst thing that can happen is the range will be no more. Better than not having it in the first place! Just IMHO.... Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:03:19 1998 Return-Path: tgimer@XXXXXX Received: from torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10169 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from cusrva.cua.edu ([136.242.10.11]) by torrentnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12666 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from 136.242.148.14 ([136.242.148.14]) by cua.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29119) with SMTP id <01J3P8GW6V9I90MWL4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:02:34 EST Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:07:05 -0500 From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <363E02D4.DFB@smart.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN wrote: > > Kirk, great idea! Count me in as well. > I was hoping that the prick who stole Todd's liner would just drop it off on his doorstep while Todd was at work, but that seems unlikely at this point. So, now not only has someone who enjoyed the food/beer/company at Todd's party pissed off Todd, you've now made it necessary for the other guests to chip in for a new liner for him. I will be happy to help buy the new liner for Todd, but even happier when the thief is exposed.......and you know the truth will eventually come out. -- Tom Gimer From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:05:43 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10255 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-122-22.s276.tnt14.brd.erols.com [207.172.122.22]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13506; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:05:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006801be069c$1b218900$167aaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "'dc'" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:05:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Congrats on the appointment to UM.....8 more years huh...I have 3yrs left in the Navy myself...you should be at retirement elig. about that time huh...good deal for you in IMHO.....good luck with the racing bit too...I enjoyed watching you at Summit....and hope to see you there next year..if you keep your web page up..maybe you can keep us posted with details on there......I have exactly 30 days left of riding before my insurance winters over...not covered for collison from NOV 31 to Feb 29, Leap year, i think, so i'l be putting the Katana in the storage shed..only to ride it around the hood to keep the battery up.......hope to do atleast one cold ride before everyone puts up their horses for the winter......cya....Les Katana 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:21:04 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10567 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06072; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:19:36 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0C9@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Wes Fleming'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:19:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain You mean you need convincing!!!???!?!!?! If you have even one tiny little competitive bone in your body, you will love it and become addicted. Even if you don't have any competitive bones, but you love to ride a bike to its full potential, you will love it and become addicted. Even if you jsut want to be able to ride a bike fast without any worries of gravel, dogs, cges, etc. you will love it and become addicted!! There's nothing quite like the rush of scraping the ground at 130 mph (and not be crashing), or coming around a corner with your helmet a mere inch or so from touching another guys exhaust pipe (till you get a tailpipe backfire right in the face..owweee that was loud!), Or the first time that knee slider taps into the pavement and has that wonderful rumble sound/feel as you come all the way through the corner without lifting it off the ground, Or coming out of a corner with the rear wheel sliding and the front tire in the air (not as common on a 500, but it is possible)...And above all, there's nothing quite like dicing hard with someone and beating them to the checkered flag (and that goes for the podium all the way down to the battle between last place and next to last place!! Ok, so I guess I'm convinced :) Are you yet?? Check out the photo gallery at: http://www.seapup.com for some great racing pics...then head to our site: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350 for some mroe racing action and race reports, then follow our links to "So you want to become a RoadRacer.." for some more awesome reading... Racing is fairly cheap on a 500, so i highly recommend at least getting out and trying it once...if nothing else, borrow a bike and go out for one of cycle sports track days... it's not quite the same as racing, but it will definitely give you a feel for what it's like to be on the track... Brian/Joe/Jay, your turn to chime in...tell us how boring and uneventful your first race weekend was :) Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: Wes Fleming [SMTP:sled@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:19 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto > > > > I'm planning on spending some quality time next season @ Summit Point. A > friend of mine is moving from 500's to 600's and trying to convince me I > need to start racing 500's. We'll see... > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:28:49 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10702 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by pentagon-dadc012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:25:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'Leslie N. Forewright'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:25:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the block which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole winter. Glenn > there......I have exactly 30 days left of riding before my insurance > winters > over...not covered for collison from NOV 31 to Feb 29, Leap year, i think, > so i'l be putting the Katana in the storage shed..only to ride it around > the > hood to keep the battery up.......hope to do atleast one cold ride before > everyone puts up their horses for the winter......cya....Les Katana 750 > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:45:29 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10966 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA12714; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102194342.UXJN20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:43:42 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Tom Gimer" , Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:42:02 -0500 Message-ID: <002101be0698$dd3e5d00$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <363E02D4.DFB@smart.net> Importance: Normal Well Tom (and everyone else), I'm still hoping (of best scenarios) that the liner was borrowed, the borrower has been off-list for a while and simply hasn't had the opportunity to return it. I'd believe it! Remember how naive I can be ;) I'll look again tonight, but I've looked and looked all over my house and car, in cabinets, and drawers hoping some joker just hid it. Honestly, at one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =:0 Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud gun :) BTW, No one should feel like it is necessary to buy me a new liner. I won't say no, but I don't want anyone to feel obliged. Thanks to everyone who has pledged so far, and special thanks to Kirk for thinking of it. What a guy! I've been wrapping up the past few days to keep warm with an old fleecy and a windbreaker. Works, but it feels like I'm wearing four neckties all tied too tight =8-Q Todd Tom Gimer wrote: > Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN wrote: > > > > Kirk, great idea! Count me in as well. > > > > I was hoping that the prick who stole Todd's liner would just drop it > off on his doorstep while Todd was at work, but that seems unlikely at > this point. > > So, now not only has someone who enjoyed the food/beer/company at Todd's > party pissed off Todd, you've now made it necessary for the other guests > to chip in for a new liner for him. > > I will be happy to help buy the new liner for Todd, but even happier > when the thief is exposed.......and you know the truth will eventually > come out. > > -- > Tom Gimer > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:56:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11097 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05493 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08223 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:56:38 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B0.006D0CD6 ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:51:07 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: "Todd Peer" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B0.006CEB0D.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:51:02 -0500 Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hey Todd. Thanks for the cool idea! ;-) Steve Honestly, at one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =:0 Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud gun :) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:57:05 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11162 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08816; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:58:13 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0CB@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:58:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:56 PM > To: Tom Gimer; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Honestly, at > one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan > blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =:0 > Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud gun > :) > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:01:26 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11308 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:01:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811022001.PAA11308@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:00:59 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:58:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > Brian/Joe/Jay, your turn to chime in...tell us how boring and > uneventful > your first race weekend was :) Man, I hated it - was the worst.. I didn't sleep at all the night before, got up way early.. wandered around looking for the leathers I'd borrowed (granted, I found out I was going to take the race school at like 6pm Friday night).. they weren't there.. got the bike prepped.. got myself ready.. hurry up and wait.. 10am.. leathers get there.. opps, missed all the skid-pad exercise (I hear its dull and borring) - anyway.. afternoon.. learned 'stuff' and finally got on the borrowed bike to get on-course.. borring for the 'parade laps' to figure out where the corners were (but I also have something like 30 days worth of corner-working at Summit under my belt too). Mock-race.. borrowed bike, borrowed leathers.. umm.. I'm gonna take it easy.. went from starting lap of 1:41 (sloooowww..) and took off about 1.5 seconds each lap there after.. getting down to almost respectable levels of 1:35 - nothing compaired to Collins 1:24's or whatever his school laps were - but it wasn't my bike, and it was a 600 compaired to a 750.. I can't begin to describe the feeling of actually racing someone.. setting your sights on them and watching them get reeled in.. braking just a little bit later, and a little bit harder.. getting on the gas a little sooner.. feeling the speed go up a little at a time.. seeing the tail of their bike get closer and closer.. looking for them to make some mistake, drift wide, cut an entry to tight.. anything.. so you can show them a wheel.. or a while bike.. Knowing that someone's bihind you and wanting with every bone in their body to pass you back.. and doing everything in your power to keep that from happening....... yea, it's pretty dull.. Noone'd really be interested in it.. serious.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:07:50 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11411 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-43-2.s2.tnt22.brd.erols.com [207.172.43.2]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA14552; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:07:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:07:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the block which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole winter. Glenn I thought about that too......Cycle Sport has them for around $39.00....why would it hurt it more to ride it...just curious....other than carbon build up and maybe moisture in the carbs..i'm not sure.....I have always lived where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:10:01 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11421 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-10.dial.nova.org (ra1-10.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.170]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA23432 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:09:54 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:15:46 GMT Message-ID: <364312a7.76339042@beta.nova.org> References: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0C9@MSCEX> In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0C9@MSCEX> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:19:34 -0500 , "Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: >You mean you need convincing!!!???!?!!?! If you have even one tiny = little >competitive bone in your body, you will love it and become addicted. It's that whole addicted part that keeps me from giving it a try. Maybe when my kids are a little older and I can afford the likely addiction... I don't doubt it'd be pure thrills much of the time. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:13:14 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11502 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaQLd-0007BZ-00; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:13:09 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:11:04 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:11:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [SMTP:cfagan@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:58 PM > To: 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:18:21 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11544 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:19:41 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:19:02 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Great minds think alike. I was just getting ready to reply when yours = beat me to it. Oh well. Just have to come up with something else. :-D = Like Collin said, when's the next party? :-) Although, I've hung my dogs toys from the ceiling fan before and let 'em = fly. That's always fun and keeps her occupied for a while. hehe No = offense all you dog lovers out there. Scooter >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/02/98 02:58PM >>> Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:56 PM > To: Tom Gimer; dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Honestly, at > one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan > blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =3D:0 > Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud = gun > :) >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:22:39 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11649 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10702; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:23:59 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0CD@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Kirk Roy'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:23:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain It depends on the type bike you run and how many races you enter. Racing a stock EX500, Hawk, GS500, etc. you can race pretty cheap. A good set of race comp tires will most likely last you an entire season. One to two sets of brake pads, and pump gas... Racing four races per weekend will run you about $150 in entry fees....If you really want a lot of track time race the GT3 which you would be competitive in, and also race GT2 (you wouldn't be all that competitive in this class, but it's twice the track time as a sprint race for about the same cost). > -----Original Message----- > From: Kirk Roy [SMTP:kirk@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:19 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto > > > It's that whole addicted part that keeps me from giving it a try. > Maybe when my kids are a little older and I can afford the likely > addiction... I don't doubt it'd be pure thrills much of the time. > > Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:24:02 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11667 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10797; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:25:20 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0CE@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:25:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Not much into football, but a party with bikers is a party with bikers!!! In my best taco bell dog voice: "I am there"... > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:24 PM > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG; 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:24:10 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11676 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by pentagon-dadc012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:21:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'Leslie N. Forewright'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:21:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) For starters just a quick run around the block probably isn't going to do your battery any good (it might even make it weaker). Secondly a quick run isn't going to burn off any condensation buildup. Glenn > I thought about that too......Cycle Sport has them for around > $39.00....why > would it hurt it more to ride it...just curious....other than carbon build > up and maybe moisture in the carbs..i'm not sure.....I have always lived > where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:24:44 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11692 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-43-2.s2.tnt22.brd.erols.com [207.172.43.2]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23742 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: honda question Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Now don't get me wrong Honda owners...my first bike was a 78 Honda XR80..loved it and now I own an 88 Honda NX250 dual sport for the off road...but I have asked a few Honda owners what the difference is between the F models...i've seen F1's and now the new F4 is in "American Road Racing Mag"....is this simply a year model code or is there an actual dif. in the setup and performance of the bikes...oddly enough I never think of this question when I am around people on rides....on the F series bikes...but I have today off, so I'm sitting at home doing laundry and putting my lil bikes carb back together.....fun huh...I don't do Mondays...I work 4 : 10 hour days the rest of the week....just wondering what scoop on the Hondas where..not that I would own anything but a Suzuki....hehehehehehehe.....the Kat is my fourth Suzuk and my favorite so far...although I miss my old RM250 everyday.......Thanxx Les 750 Kat... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:27:22 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11798 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A57199023C; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:26:25 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102153008.01efbdf0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:32:11 -0500 To: "Leslie N. Forewright" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Cc: "'DC Cycles'" In-Reply-To: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:07 PM 11/2/98 , Leslie N. Forewright wrote: >Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the block >which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole winter. >Glenn > >I thought about that too......Cycle Sport has them for around $39.00....why >would it hurt it more to ride it...just curious....other than carbon build >up and maybe moisture in the carbs..i'm not sure.....I have always lived >where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? The concern here, I'd say, is that the ride is just "around the block". 20 miles or so would be better, to warm everything up, and particularly to boil off the water that has likely condensed in your engine, transmission, rear drive (and whatever other parts you have). Very short rides are bad for motor vehicles - that's why stop & go driving and deliveries are so hard on vehicles. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:27:22 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11797 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A57099023C; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:26:24 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102152924.01f1e740@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:29:55 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sounds good. Steve Beck and I will bring the potatoes. :-) Chris Norloff At 03:11 PM 11/2/98 , O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... >Any yeas? > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [SMTP:cfagan@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:58 PM >> To: 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner >> >> Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) >> >> From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:28:47 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11826 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:28:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA25623 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:28:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981102152825.00abd5d0@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:28:54 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: Re: ERC Class Attendees - range In-Reply-To: <6e063c54.363dfecc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yeah -- the worst they can do is chase us off, right? --w At 13:49 02-11-98 , WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: >I still think we should just use the pentagon parking lot. Its public >property so there is no way in hell that they can tell us to go away. As long >as we try to seclude ourselves a bit from the other people and show a good >example we should be just fine. I used to work at the pentagon and REGULARLY >saw things of this type being done on the weekends (mostly to the tune of >street hockey games where they took up the WHOLE parking lot at times). I >really dont think anyone would mind. And if they do the worst thing that can >happen is the range will be no more. Better than not having it in the first >place! >Just IMHO.... > >Jack Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB-750 "Extra Sled" I've never been to good with names But I remember faces... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:36:42 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11960 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:36:39 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA28306; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:37:56 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma027943; Mon, 2 Nov 98 15:37:09 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1T00IXKAJX8E@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B0.0070D2B0 ; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:32:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:32:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: "Leslie N. Forewright" Cc: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" , "'DC Cycles'" Message-id: <852566B0.0070B69E.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Les, If you are in the Wash area, you still do ... --chris From: "Leslie N. Forewright" Date: 11/02/98 09:07:16 PM GMT Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto --snip-- .....I have always lived where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:37:06 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11969 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA17309; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:25:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102202425.VLQV20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:24:25 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:22:46 -0500 Message-ID: <002801be069e$8d811900$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Importance: Normal Yea! > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [mailto:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:11 PM > To: 'Fagan, Collin LTJG'; 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [SMTP:cfagan@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:58 PM > > To: 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > > > Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:39:38 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11989 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:41:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:40:47 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible = Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 03:11PM >>> Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [SMTP:cfagan@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:58 PM > To: 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:40:21 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12012 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:40:18 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA29000; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:39:20 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma028607; Mon, 2 Nov 98 15:37:59 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1T00K0BAKQQX@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B0.0070DE65 ; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:32:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:33:44 -0500 Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" Cc: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B0.0070CB95.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL That depends ... who's playing? --chris To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , 'Todd Peer' , dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" Date: 11/02/98 08:11:05 PM GMT Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:42:38 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12106 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaQo0-00042e-00; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:28 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:40:21 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD63@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:40:20 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Ok, cool, sounds like there's enough interest. I'll give you all more details when planning is more underway. BTW, I don't care about the superbowl myself, just using it as an excuse to party! ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [SMTP:SRUSH@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:41 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; todd.b.peer@XXXXXX; > cfagan@XXXXXX; jlobrien@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible > Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. > > Scooter > > >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 03:11PM > >>> > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? > > - Jeannette > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:43:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12116 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06297 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09903 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:55 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WTTJa13872 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54a3802c.363e1921@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:09 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: honda question F1-F4 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 I recently found out the difference after receiving a nifty little fold out poster/brochure on the new F4. (This can be obtained by going to the Honda website...it's pretty and free! ) The Hurricane started the line in 1987, and the CBR600F came out in 1990. The F2 came out in 1991, the F3 in '95, and the F4 just came in for '99. The new F4 seems like a fun bike....110 Hp on the dyno, and that doesn't include ram-air power boost. Yikes. Each succesive F denotes changes more radical than the usual year to year changes; better handling, power, etc....Answer your questions? -Sean Jordan '83 Interceptor From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:46:40 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12175 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:46:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA08608; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:47:01 -0500 Message-ID: <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:43:43 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Leslie N. Forewright" CC: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leslie N. Forewright wrote: >.....I have always lived > where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? In the 15 years since I've started riding, so have I. :-) -- Leon From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:46:50 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12183 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:48:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:47:41 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I knew you had an alterior motive. ;-) BTW I don't care too much for it = either. Unless the Steelers are playing. :-D Scooter >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 03:40PM >>> Ok, cool, sounds like there's enough interest. I'll give you all more details when planning is more underway. BTW, I don't care about the superbowl myself, just using it as an excuse to party! ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [SMTP:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:41 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; todd.b.peer@XXXXXX; > cfagan@XXXXXX; jlobrien@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible > Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. >=20 > Scooter >=20 > >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 03:11PM > >>> > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? >=20 > - Jeannette >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:47:08 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12194 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:48:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:48:31 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Yo quero Taco Bell? Scooter >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/02/98 03:25PM >>> Not much into football, but a party with bikers is a party with bikers!!! = In my best taco bell dog voice: "I am there"... > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:24 PM > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG; 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:47:31 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12204 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:47:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaQso-00051f-00; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:47:26 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:45:22 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD64@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Chris Norloff'" , "Leslie N. Forewright" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:45:21 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'd definitely go with a battery tender. Glenn suggested the same to me last year & it was a godsend. I never had a problem starting her up after she'd been on the tender. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:32 PM > To: Leslie N. Forewright > Cc: 'DC Cycles' > Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto > > At 04:07 PM 11/2/98 , Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > >Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the > block > >which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole > winter. > >Glenn > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:50:50 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12326 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 380; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:49:29 -0500 Message-ID: <363E1B1B.23092448@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:50:35 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" CC: "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0CB@MSCEX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: > > Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > Well, *NOW* it's certainly not gonna be at our house! Horkster, carefully eyeing (pun?) his THREE ceiling fans at home for potatoes from now on... especially the one over my bed! (That wouldn't be pleasant!) :) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:51:01 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12329 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:50:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-10.dial.nova.org (ra1-10.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.170]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA24321 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:50:47 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: honda question Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:56:40 GMT Message-ID: <36451a59.78309571@beta.nova.org> References: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> In-Reply-To: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:16 -0600, "Leslie N. Forewright"=20 >but I have asked a few Honda owners what the difference is between >the F models...i've seen F1's and now the new F4 is in "American Road >Racing Mag"....is this simply a year model code or is there an actual = dif. >in the setup and performance of the bikes...oddly enough I never think = of >this question when I am around people on rides....on the F series >bikes... =46 is a common suffix for Honda bikes (e.g., VFR750F). However, the models you're referring to are variations of the CBR600. The original Hurricane, CBR600F, was considered a revolutionary model in the world of sporting bikes (my brother had one of these - what a change from the CB650 he'd had previously). The F2 was an evolutionary step up from the F, the F3 was again an evolutionary step up from the F2, and the F4 will be released for 1999 and is yet another evolutionary step in the CBR600 line-up (although from my perspective it represents a greater leap than the previous models did). If I get off my lazy butt and get my truck ready to sell I'll likely be buying a CBR600F4 next year... It's the first of the seriously sporting production bikes (actually, the R6 as well) to actually weigh less than my Hawk GT and it's a Honda. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:51:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12346 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06490 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10309 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:51:19 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B0.00721060 ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:45:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: Chris Norloff cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B0.0071D215.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:45:51 -0500 Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Or we could be real mischievous and use eggs instead of potato's. ;-) Steve Sounds good. Steve Beck and I will bring the potatoes. :-) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:54:53 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12366 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 310; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:53:42 -0500 Message-ID: <363E1C18.EEB8FE66@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:54:48 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? Hmm, a party on my birthday? Does that mean I have to make lasagna again? :) Count me in! Horkster, 3 years younger than the SuperBowl From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:03:04 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12570 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:04:22 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:03:51 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of = flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. :-) Scooter >>> 11/02/98 03:33PM >>> That depends ... who's playing? --chris To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , 'Todd Peer' , dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 cc: From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" Date: 11/02/98 08:11:05 PM GMT Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you = received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:05:12 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12676 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-59-219.s282.tnt12.brd.erols.com [207.172.59.219]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA27445 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:05:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002601be06ac$cbd30b60$db3baccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: insurance... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:04:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 According to Progressive....cheapest I could find, at the time...found out different later that State Farm is much cheaper...anyhow because I live in Arlington...i fall under the D.C. theft rates.....neat huh......if I parked my bike on a military base... nearest one being Fort Meyer..it would be a couple hundred less...however...that would be quite inconveinent for me... besides according to the Provost Marshall(army thing) my MSF certificate which is about 4 years old is not current enough to ride the bike on base....Les Kat 750.. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:05:16 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12679 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 217 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:04:01 -0500 Message-ID: <363E1E83.62FDE5E1@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:05:07 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: honda question References: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking fo the F4's, I got a nice glossy full color ad thingy mailed to me hyping the new Honda 600 F4's, also shows all the other GooF's :) If anyone wants it, just holler. Dale (the Horkster) Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > ...i've seen F1's and now the new F4 is in "American Road > Racing Mag"....is this simply a year model code or is there an actual dif. > in the setup and performance of the bikes... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:08:04 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12698 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 369; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:06:53 -0500 Message-ID: <363E1F2F.8F95EB15@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:07:59 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCOTT Rush CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SCOTT Rush wrote: > > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers! PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:12:28 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12787 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 231; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:11:14 -0500 Message-ID: <363E2034.3AEB74BA@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:12:20 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCOTT Rush CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heeeeere Leeezard, Leeezard, Leeezard! Horkster SCOTT Rush wrote: > > Yo quero Taco Bell? > > Scooter > > >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/02/98 03:25PM >>> > Not much into football, but a party with bikers is a party with bikers!!! In > my best taco bell dog voice: "I am there"... > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:19:11 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12857 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 95; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:17:56 -0500 Message-ID: <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:19:02 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > ..I have always lived where it was warm enough to ride year > round.....? And Leon Begeman responded: > In the 15 years since I've started riding, so have I. :-) Yeah, but Leon, you cheat, you Electro-Heat-Widder-Boy! :) Dale (the Horkster) PS: I guess the same argument can be said of me, the Lard-Boy! :) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:22:28 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12942 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaRQd-0002kN-01; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:22:23 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:20:18 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD65@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" , christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:20:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Well, it's big but it'll have 2 pitbulls in it! LOL Also, it's sloping so it would be easy to get injured! heh heh - by the slope, of course. > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [SMTP:SRUSH@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:04 PM > To: jlobrien@XXXXXX; christopher.meier@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; todd.b.peer@XXXXXX; > cfagan@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of > flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. > :-) > > Scooter > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:24:07 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12962 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:25:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:24:52 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm also a Steelers fan since birth. Born and raised in Pennsyltucky. I = think "Slash" can do it though. You got to have faith. :-) Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:07PM >>> SCOTT Rush wrote: >=20 > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible = Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got=20 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers!=20 PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:24:34 1998 Return-Path: mberman@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (mberman@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12973 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id QAA19568; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:25 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: SCOTT Rush Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why flag football, why not M/C polo? On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, SCOTT Rush wrote: > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. :-) > > Scooter > > >>> 11/02/98 03:33PM >>> -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:24:58 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12982 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:26:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:26:04 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I think I'm going to need a bigger box. Scooter (TV? What's that? hehe) >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:12PM >>> Heeeeere Leeezard, Leeezard, Leeezard! Horkster SCOTT Rush wrote: >=20 > Yo quero Taco Bell? >=20 > Scooter >=20 > >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/02/98 03:25PM >>> > Not much into football, but a party with bikers is a party with = bikers!!! In > my best taco bell dog voice: "I am there"... > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:26:37 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13003 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:27:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:27:34 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline One pitbull on each team. I think that's fair. Scooter >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 04:20PM >>> Well, it's big but it'll have 2 pitbulls in it! LOL Also, it's sloping so it would be easy to get injured! heh heh - by the slope, of course. > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [SMTP:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:04 PM > To: jlobrien@XXXXXX; christopher.meier@XXXXXX=20 > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; todd.b.peer@XXXXXX; > cfagan@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of > flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. > :-) >=20 > Scooter >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:29:29 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13087 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:29:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:29:15 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: mberman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I don't think her backyard is THAT big. Besides, it's football season not = Polo season. Scooter >>> Morris Berman 11/02/98 04:24PM >>> Why flag football, why not M/C polo? On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, SCOTT Rush wrote: > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of = flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. :-) >=20 > Scooter >=20 > >>> 11/02/98 03:33PM >>> -Mb ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX=20 '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) = #446884 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages = Accepted <=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging = trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:35:39 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13198 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07149 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA11596 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA01092; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:35:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E285B.7E7E@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:47:07 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NJitzul@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Quiz OTD References: <8b75d316.363a9587@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > > Hmmm... they say I'm an Adrenalin Junkie! :) Who me? Noooo. > Maybe if I had bought that CBR instead of the Shadow.... > > Robert "I know I'd kill myself on a crotch-rocket cause I'd > want to see how fast it goes... " VanSlyke > > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" (enough speed to keep me happy) Same reason I don't even look at the crotch-rockets. I would not trust myself. But, I di spend most of my time with a passenger. I will not say how much she weighs, but I am well over 200. With me, her, and the full T-Bag, I need the 1100... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:38:20 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13218 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA10124; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:38:46 -0500 Message-ID: <363E25A8.F2FFEB62@illuminet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 21:35:36 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeannette invited us to a party Chris Meier asks That depends ... who's playing? Dale Horstman wrote: > > Yeah, but Leon, you cheat, you Electro-Heat-Widder-Boy! :) OK. here's my part. Let's go ride some twisty roads. I know of a road with some really tight switchbacks. It's Ridge Road in western Prince William County; about a half dozen first gear switchbacks going up the side of Bull Run Mountain. Using one of Chris Norloff's winter riding rules, "you know you're a winter rider when gravel in the turns looks good because you know it isn't as slippery as ice" This road is never slippery in the summer, and most of the time it's just as good in the winter. I'll watch the weather report and plan a route that is close to Jeannette and Tom yet is sure to include some relatively rough unpaved roads. Better weather will insure more miles. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:41:07 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13239 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by animal.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4Y7ZYCKJ>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:40:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: SB XXXIII/Biker Party Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:40:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Not if they keep playing like yesterday. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:25 PM To: Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party I'm also a Steelers fan since birth. Born and raised in Pennsyltucky. I think "Slash" can do it though. You got to have faith. :-) Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:07PM >>> SCOTT Rush wrote: > > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers! PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:44:18 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13353 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS33LDY3; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:30 EST To: l4rite@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: honda question Message-ID: <19981030.184631.8255.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3,5-6,13-15 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:30 EST On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:16 -0600 "Leslie N. Forewright" writes: ...but I have asked a few Honda owners what the difference is >between the F models...i've seen F1's and now the new F4 is in "American Road >Racing Mag"....is this simply a year model code or is there an actual dif< I'm sure lots of folks will jump to answer this, especially Honda owners and any former Honda mechanics, but I believe each "F number" represents significant changes to the model. In Honda's case in particular, the changes usually amount to a total redesign and not just minor updates. That's why the F3's have been out for a few years and why, after 12 years of production (including 1999), they've only made it up to F4 and not to F12. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:44:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13356 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07250 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA11928 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS33LD7S; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:31 EST To: sbeck@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Message-ID: <19981030.184631.8255.3.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <852566B0.006CEB0D.00@goliath.intelsol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3-4,12-14 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:31 EST >Honestly, at one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling >fan blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week ... This happened at a party at my house once, too, but not with potatoes. The morning after, having cleaned the kitchen all the way down to scrubbing the floor on my hands and knees (murderous with a hangover) to get the sticky spots up. Shakily, I stood up, pleased with my work. But the Pine Sol smell was getting to me, so I opened the window and turned on the fan to clear the air. Someone had left a plastic cup half full of beer and a few cigarette butts up there. It fell on my shoulder and splashed its unsavory contents all down my side. Bleah!! JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:44:24 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13359 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS33LDTW; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:30 EST To: Dysart@XXXXXX Cc: l4rite@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Batteries was Big Plans...some moto Message-ID: <19981030.184630.8255.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3-4,9-10,13-15 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:30 EST On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:21:00 -0500 Dysart@XXXXXX> writes: >For starters just a quick run around the block probably isn't going to do your battery >any good (it might even make it weaker). Secondly a quick run isn't going to burn off >any condensation buildup. Also, you run the risk of fouling the spark plugs from not letting the engine get good and warm unless you run around the block a whole bunch of times in a row (and then you run the risk of potentially unwanted attention from your neighbors). But if you have a friend stand in your driveway with a stopwatch... ;-) A motorcycle's charging system isn't strong enough to recharge its battery the way a car's system will. I, too, recommend you stick to a battery tender. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:49:41 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13451 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-113-136.s136.tnt5.ann.erols.com [207.172.113.136]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24420; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:50:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E9F64.6AB7EC1@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 01:15:00 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: SCOTT Rush , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <363E2034.3AEB74BA@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ROTFLMAO... Half the living creatures in my house perked their ears up when this post came through!! Dale Horstman wrote: > > Heeeeere Leeezard, Leeezard, Leeezard! > > Horkster > -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:51:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13538 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07450 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA12144 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11603 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:51:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E2C3F.B7A@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:03:43 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > > What's this talk of heated grips and heated seats? Bah... I > prefer to bundle up like the Michelin Man. :) I tend to agree with you. As long as my bundled clothing allows me the movement to twist the throttle, I'll ride. I am real good at "layering" my clothes. Growing up poor in a cold climate, I could never afford the real warm (expensive) clothing. I just bought clothes big enough to wear many layers.... It was still cheaper than the expensive clothes. -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:55:08 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13551 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 95; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:53:58 -0500 Message-ID: <363E2A38.FF705FBB@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:55:04 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> <363E25A8.F2FFEB62@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leon Begeman wrote: > > OK. here's my part. Let's go ride some twisty roads. I know of a road > with some really tight switchbacks. It's Ridge Road in western Prince > William County; about a half dozen first gear switchbacks going up the > side of Bull Run Mountain. Paved? Not that I'm a wuss or anything, but first gear switchbacks on a cold day on my birthday on the way to a party with a lasagna strapped to the bike chasing a John Deere billygoat up a frozen gravel cowpath with my top heavy streetbike just might be pushing the envelope a little too much... ;) I guess I could always ditch the lasagna. After all, it will by my birthday... :) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:55:46 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13561 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:56:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:56:23 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, exup@XXXXXX Subject: M/C Clothing question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website that sells all = kinds of leather goods, including pants and jackets. They had a nice = zip-up leather shirt for $129 that they said is good for when you want to = ride but don't want to wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any = comments? The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under Shirts - = Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice pants too. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:59:35 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13667 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16333; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:59:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E2DFC.6375@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:11:08 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD63@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > Ok, cool, sounds like there's enough interest. I'll give > you all more details when planning is more underway. > BTW, I don't care about the superbowl myself, just using > it as an excuse to party! ; ) I love to party, but I think I will be skiing that weekend. If not, count me in. I have to meet all of you who don't ride year-round some way. :) -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:59:48 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13676 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:00:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:00:37 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: HolmesM@XXXXXX, Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: SB XXXIII/Biker Party Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I know. I know. A guy can dream though, can't he? Scooter >>> "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" 11/02/98 04:40PM = >>> Not if they keep playing like yesterday. =20 Mitch -----Original Message----- From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:25 PM To: Horkster@XXXXXX=20 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party I'm also a Steelers fan since birth. Born and raised in Pennsyltucky. I think "Slash" can do it though. You got to have faith. :-) Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:07PM >>> SCOTT Rush wrote: >=20 > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got=20 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers!=20 PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:06:26 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13790 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20923 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:06:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E2FB2.9CE@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:18:26 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD64@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > I'd definitely go with a battery tender. Glenn suggested > the same to me last year & it was a godsend. I never had a > problem starting her up after she'd been on the tender. Thanks for the advice. My biggest problem is that I think the battery in my '78 Suzuki is the original. I have to kick start it. Only if it has been running and the weather is warm, will the thing start with the starter. Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen '78 GS400/'97 ACE 1100 Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:15:23 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13911 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaSFq-0006Wl-00; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:15:18 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:13:13 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD67@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dale Horstman'" , Leon Begeman , DC Cycles List Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:13:13 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain NOOOOOOOO! I love you lasagna!! Blasphemy, I say!! > Paved? Not that I'm a wuss or anything, but first gear switchbacks > on a cold day on my birthday on the way to a party with a lasagna > strapped to the bike chasing a John Deere billygoat up a frozen gravel > > cowpath with my top heavy streetbike just might be pushing the > envelope > a little too much... ;) > > I guess I could always ditch the lasagna. After all, it will by > my birthday... :) > > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:17:43 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13921 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28148 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:17:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E3259.5EF9@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:29:45 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SCOTT Rush wrote: > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see > why a game of flag football can't be arranged. Then you > could say WE were playing. :-) I'm up for a game of touch co-ed football..... :) Too much hassle getting the flags, etc. But I love a friendly game. Never could stand to watch football; I just like playing football. -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:19:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13931 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA07799 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (known imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13048 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:18:50 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WWLa002316 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:16:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1f5bff31.363e2f4c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:16:44 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-02 14:55:36 EST, you write: << Honestly, at one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =:0 Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud gun :) >> Man! Why didn't I think of this before? *said in the voice of Wile E. Coyote* "Genius! That's what it is! Pure genius!" (Of course, then I'd have to fall off the chair ripping the ceiling fan from the ceiling whilst being bombarded with 'taters.) Lung From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:28:04 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14083 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03886; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:27:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E34C2.1038@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:40:02 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCOTT Rush CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SCOTT Rush wrote: > > One pitbull on each team. I think that's fair. > After working as a veterinary technician for the last 13 years, I think that pitbulls are great dogs. The love to play, and if raised right are the sweetest dogs. I love it when they come into the clinic because I can rough house with them without any fear. Try wrestling with a chihuahua.... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:28:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14093 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08026 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (known imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13351 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:28:42 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id UAAHa09168; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:26:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:26:20 EST To: l4rite@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-02 15:14:29 EST, you write: << I thought about that too......Cycle Sport has them for around $39.00....why would it hurt it more to ride it...just curious....other than carbon build up and maybe moisture in the carbs..i'm not sure.....I have always lived where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? >> If ya just ride it without getting it af FULL op temp, then yeah, moisture is gonna be a problem. Spring for the insurance or the Bat. Tender (which is well worth the money). On the other hand, why not get some of those nifty ice-racing studded tires and redecorate the local landscape all winter instead? A Katana 750 ice bike would be gonzo. Show those cheesy lil' 250's what -real- fun is! =<8^O Lung From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:33:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14154 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08071 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13472 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:33:32 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WGZBa02302 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:32:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:32:11 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: Todd's jacket liner Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_910045932_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_910045932_boundary Content-ID: <0_910045932@XXXXXX> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_910045932_boundary Content-ID: <0_910045932@XXXXXX> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: LungHD@XXXXXX Return-path: To: jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:31:32 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-11-02 15:21:58 EST, you write: << Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette >> Hmmmm. Any prizes for long distance rider? Fan-mashed potatoes, perhaps? Lung (Thinking of putting the dog on the ceiling fan and leaving the toys on the floor.) --part0_910045932_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:55:35 1998 Return-Path: SQUAM69@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14464 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:55:32 -0500 (EST) From: SQUAM69@XXXXXX Received: from SQUAM69@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 5SGWa17681; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:54:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <92e59b1a.363e383b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:54:51 EST To: SRUSH@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, exup@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [EXUP] M/C Clothing question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/2/98 1:55:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, SRUSH@XXXXXX writes: << Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website that sells all kinds of leather goods, including pants and jackets. They had a nice zip-up leather shirt for $129 that they said is good for when you want to ride but don't want to wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under Shirts - Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice pants too. Scooter >> Screw it--Just ride without a shirt! Actually, if your concerned about protection during the hot weather, I'd try to find a heavily ventilated jacket that has somebody armor. A thin leather shirt will create a lot of heat when your back is sliding down the road--It may save your skin, but the heat blisters that it produces will be a mess. Ask Rick about crashing, he's done it twice in 18 years and is the list expert. Oh, I forgot-Rick doesn't wear any protection--3 words--Vegas, Honda, Crash. Sam ZX-9 Guy From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:56:11 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14484 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:56:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08384 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (known smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA14282 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-113-136.s136.tnt5.ann.erols.com [207.172.113.136]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29133; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:56:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363EAFBD.F7C72115@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 02:24:45 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LungHD@XXXXXX CC: l4rite@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to come up north and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two that had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like crazy.... Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > On the other hand, why not get some of those nifty ice-racing studded tires > and redecorate the local landscape all winter instead? A Katana 750 ice bike > would be gonzo. Show those cheesy lil' 250's what -real- fun is! -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 18:40:20 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.151]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15108 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:40:16 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr49-dialup49.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.79.49]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F1T00OTJJ1YAQ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:39:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:41:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Stolen Bike Update #3 To: "Burger, Donald " , DC Cycles Message-id: <017401be06ba$5fc85200$314f37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Anyone out there want to buy an nice F3? Its only been stolen AND >crashed one time. I didn't think so. > >Don B. Don, $500 I'll take it as is.......... 8^) Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 18:46:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15226 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:46:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA09082 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.152]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA15599 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:46:32 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr49-dialup49.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.79.49]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33507) with SMTP id <0F1T001VQJCICP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:45:58 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:48:09 -0500 Subject: Re: WOW, There is a god!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <017c01be06bb$40f4f940$314f37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Great to have you back out there Sean! >Have you tinkered with your DJPC yet? Mine will be here on Wednesday (got it >secondhand for $275!) and I was curious if you have played with it yet. > >Jack Hope it comes with a working sidestand........... yikes.... I guess hp is more important. Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 19:05:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15550 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA09304 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA15916 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:05:23 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr49-dialup49.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.79.49]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33510) with SMTP id <0F1T00H6NK7KCV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:04:36 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:06:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <019b01be06bd$db80f5c0$314f37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I think someone "borrowed" my R1 at Todd's party. If everyone can chip in and help me replace it, I'd be very grateful............ seriously, great idea Kirk, count me in. That's the least some of us could do. I mean, all I did was drink some, ok, a lot of Todd's home brew and nibbled on some yummy food. Hmmm, beer munchies....... BTW, who started on Mark's quiche? I thought that was gonna go untouched(eh-hem...Urselina...cough, cough). Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 19:39:53 1998 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from stmpy.cais.net (stmpy.cais.net [199.0.216.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16055 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (dynamic97.cais.com [207.226.56.97]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA08635 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:55:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981102193638.006b0b8c@mail.dc.net> X-Sender: wowbager@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:36:38 -0800 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I find it hard to believe that whoever "borrowed it", hasn't returned it by now. Thats pretty low, considering that Todd would be right there to help you if you needed it. Kirk Excellent idea, let me know were to send the Check. Mike B. 98 ZX900R At 04:19 PM 11/2/98 GMT, you wrote: >Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party >I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to >make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was >confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd >have to foot the whole bill. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 20:28:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16833 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10170 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA18417 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([208.220.25.220]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 356; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: <363E5CEE.9A13C1BE@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:31:26 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LungHD@XXXXXX CC: LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Leon Begemen Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > > A Katana 750 ice bike would be gonzo. Show those cheesy lil' 250's > what -real- fun is! =<8^O Hey Leon! Ya hear what this guy is saying about your bike? :) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 21:01:25 1998 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17335 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA00323; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:01:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E8E25.43DF@mnsinc.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 21:01:25 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Roy CC: dc-cycles Subject: Todd's jacket liner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:19:30 GMT Kirk Roy suggested: > Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party > I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to > make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was > confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd > have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party > and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace > Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this > thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for > our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want > that) but simply a just thing to do. Count me in Kirk. I agree with you that it is the just thing to do. JK From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 21:02:00 1998 Return-Path: true@XXXXXX Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17353 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mydesktop (client196-127-194.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.194]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id UAA20000; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:11:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811030111.UAA20000@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:57:45 -0500 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Owww... Okay, okay, twist my arm. :) MET At 03:11 PM 11/2/98 , O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... >Any yeas? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 21:40:21 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17872 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA10839 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (known imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA20006 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:40:14 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id WQRAa09167 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:39:30 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <1cd709d.363e6ce2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:39:30 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: WOW, There is a god!! - sidestand/PC Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/2/98 7:53:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dawn.jon@XXXXXX writes: << Hope it comes with a working sidestand........... yikes.... I guess hp is more important. >> FYI, my sidestand is in transit as we speak from NY...$23 secondhand. Nice deal I think. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 22:29:31 1998 Return-Path: true@XXXXXX Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18542 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mydesktop (client196-127-194.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.194]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id UAA19976; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:11:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811030111.UAA19976@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:54:50 -0500 To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <363E02D4.DFB@smart.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There's still the possibility that one of the _non-list-reading_ guests picked it up inadvertently or out of need, and just hasn't thought about it since. No need for tempers to flare. However, chipping in seems like a great idea anyway. :) MET At 02:07 PM 11/2/98 , Tom Gimer wrote: >I was hoping that the prick who stole Todd's liner would just drop it >off on his doorstep while Todd was at work, but that seems unlikely at >this point. > >... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 22:30:32 1998 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18583 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-3.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.44]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA06661 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: <018a01be06da$15dd1480$3510b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:28:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Top idea, Kirk. One thought -- if the timing issue can be handled (cool weather *is* upon us), perhaps a door collection at a next get-together would save a lot of checks, envelopes and stamps. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 Will clothing lojacks be next? Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Roy Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want that) but simply a just thing to do. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 22:55:45 1998 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18876 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-3.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.44]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA07171 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:55:43 -0500 Message-ID: <01b901be06dd$9c410b00$3510b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:49:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Congratulations, Collin. I got help toward my Masters from the GI Bill. Soak up as much bookstuff as possible -- Time is so hard to find for that post-school. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 O.M. (Owners Manual), going for its S.M. (Service Manual) Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Fagan, Collin LTJG ...snip >Well, I recently was selected by the Coast Guard to attend post-graduate >school ...snip From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:02:12 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19824 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12673 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (known pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22753 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:01:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA24888; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:58:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:57:43 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner To: Kirk Roy cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm in.Are you going to be the POC Kirk? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:17:14 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20045 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25168; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:13:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:11:17 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <006801be069c$1b218900$167aaccf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've got big plans this spring myself,but they're completley non-moto.From mid March to mid July I'll be in the United Arab Emerites for Desert Storm. And Sodamn Insane is getting uppitdy again.Lovely. :-P The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:24:21 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20132 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.20]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:19:28 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Leslie N. Forewright" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: honda question Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:24:42 -0500 Message-ID: <007d01be06ea$429dbbe0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> Hurricane and F are essentially the same bike. F2 is new bike. F3 is update on F2 F4 is totally new bike. New engine new (aluminum) frame. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:24:23 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20134 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:24:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.20]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:11:17 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Burger, Donald " , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: Stolen Bike Update #3 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:16:31 -0500 Message-ID: <007a01be06e9$1e19b360$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01D61363DB03B00E*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Sounds like the beginnings of a NICE streetfighter to me. How is the frame? Forks? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Anyone out there want to buy an nice F3? Its only been stolen AND > crashed one time. I didn't think so. > > Don B. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:24:24 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20136 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:24:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.20]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:13:17 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Todd Peer" , , Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:18:30 -0500 Message-ID: <007b01be06e9$6524a6c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000d01be0675$a8dc4220$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Hey, she got her ring today. And that ring cost (will be costing) a heck of a lot more than a decent sidecar. (Where the hell are my priorities?) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Why don't you just get a nice car and quit trying to torture the poor girl > :) > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:27:39 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20237 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.20]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:24:37 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Gil M. Nissley" , Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:29:51 -0500 Message-ID: <007f01be06ea$fb100e80$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Need anybody to keep an eye on the Hog? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > I've got big plans this spring myself,but they're completley > non-moto.From mid March to mid July I'll be in the United Arab > Emerites for Desert Storm. > And Sodamn Insane is getting uppitdy again.Lovely. :-P > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:37:27 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20421 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:37:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25275; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:33:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:31:31 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <363EAFBD.F7C72115@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to come up north > and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two that > had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like > crazy.... > Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! _CW_ rode in a race called the Numb Bumm a couple years ago.The track is pure ice with banking and everything.I think they ran an old GS1100 if memory serves. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:42:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20510 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA13578 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23539 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:35 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3UINa02301; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:38:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9b2caaa6.363e96c3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:38:11 EST To: snake69@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 I also have gotten good at layering clothes. I was born and raised around DC and nice clothing usually got stolen where I lived. So I have lots of really inexpensive stuff!! :) Also, my short time in the USAFA in Colorado Springs helped me to become very tolerant of extreme temps (100+ degree days and 30 degree nites is common). I'm thinking of getting a larger touring type bike to supplement the Shadow. Crotch-Rockets are tempting, but I won't try it til I can ride on a track. Racing sounds inticing, but lack of money and semi-uncertain future prevent those kinds of commitments. I know I want something that is more stretched out and has more storage space for riding distances once I'm done with school. Til then, I'll keep dreaming. :) Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:44:08 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20521 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25304; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:40:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:35:09 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto To: George Howell cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <007f01be06ea$fb100e80$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, George Howell wrote: > Need anybody to keep an eye on the Hog? Gee,think someone here would ride it around for me?Jack? :-P It's going to spend the winter in Dad's garage.I'm going to see if I can get him to ride it in Rolling Thunder for me.It would be priceless(Dad's big-time Honda dude). The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:46:04 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20566 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25319; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:41:04 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** To: George Howell cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <007b01be06e9$6524a6c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, George Howell wrote: > Hey, she got her ring today. And that ring cost (will be costing) a heck of > a lot more than a decent sidecar. (Where the hell are my priorities?) Why didn't you give her a bike for an engagment present?You coulda put the keyring on her finger. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:47:28 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20576 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25325; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:43:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:47 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Remembering a disk lock To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981102075430.00fafa20@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Chris Norloff wrote: > Souonds like you've been watching too much Pamela Lee Anderson lately. Are you saying I'm the only person on the list who watches VIP? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 01:47:37 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21334 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA25732; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:43:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:41:49 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: insurance... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <002601be06ac$cbd30b60$db3baccf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > besides according to the Provost Marshall(army thing) my MSF certificate > which is about 4 years old is not current enough to ride the bike on > base....Les Kat 750.. Sounds goofy to me.My card is from '90 and I've never been hassled. Why not just take the course again? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 01:49:49 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21344 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA25747; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:46:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:45:35 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: Marvin Heilesen cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <363E2FB2.9CE@iname.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Marvin Heilesen wrote: > Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, > too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost > dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? I'd say park it and give the electrical system a good going over. Check everything out and replace anything questionable. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 01:56:48 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21432 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA25772; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:53:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:49:08 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: ERC Class Attendees - range To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <6e063c54.363dfecc@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > I still think we should just use the pentagon parking lot. Its public > property so there is no way in hell that they can tell us to go away. Actually,it's a military reservation,which makes it govt property. There's actually small(pentagon-shaped) plates on the curbs of nearby streets that give the actual bondaries. But as long as you do it out on the edge of Noth Parking,and nowhere near the building,there shouldn't be any probs. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:05:25 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26758 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:05:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031205.HAA26758@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:05:21 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: M/C Clothing question Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:02:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) hrmm.. this'd be best answered with a 'opinions may vary' answer. We already know (or should know) that even a fashon leather jacket (heavier than the leather shirts.. I've seen them before) more or less melt when they touch terra firma at any kind of speed. I imagine that with the shirt, you'd be doing just about as much as wearing a denim jacket.. not much in other words. Plus you don't have any armor to keep you from hurting yourself on impact.. I bet for $150 or so Colleen could set you up with a nice jacket (if money's a concern) - otherwise buy a cable lock and lock your gear to your bike. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:56 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; exup@XXXXXX > Subject: M/C Clothing question > > > Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website > that sells all kinds of leather goods, including pants and > jackets. They had a nice zip-up leather shirt for $129 that > they said is good for when you want to ride but don't want to > wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? > > The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under > Shirts - Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice > pants too. > > Scooter > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:12:12 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26858 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA17183 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (known mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA28454 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:12:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031212.HAA28454@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:11:53 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:09:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) must be the REAL reason Collin's headed north... got that racing gig he always wanted.. ;) Can I see the studded tires on your GSXR befor you leave though Collin!!??!! puhleeease.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) [mailto:gixer@XXXXXX] > > > On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to > come up north > and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two that > had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like > crazy.... > Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:15:40 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA26908 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:15:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103121652.3782.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:16:52 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:16:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: "Gil M. Nissley" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It sounds goofy by MSF standards (certificate never expires but they recommend retaking ERC every 1-3 yrs), but goofy is normal by military standards. Each service or major command has a limit. USCG used to require the course every three years. I got stopped at the gate at Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, so I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. Ray ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > > besides according to the Provost Marshall(army thing) my MSF certificate > > which is about 4 years old is not current enough to ride the bike on > > base....Les Kat 750.. > > Sounds goofy to me.My card is from '90 and I've never been hassled. > Why not just take the course again? > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:30:51 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA27134 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:30:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103123204.7744.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:32:04 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:32:04 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" , "'Leslie N. Forewright'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have the issue of Motorcycle Consumer News where they compared smart battery tenders/chargers (Jun or Jul I think)? The magazine is so popular mine took a walk. ---"Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" wrote: > > Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the block > which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole winter. > > Glenn > > > > > there......I have exactly 30 days left of riding before my insurance > > winters > > over...not covered for collison from NOV 31 to Feb 29, Leap year, i think, > > so i'l be putting the Katana in the storage shed..only to ride it around > > the > > hood to keep the battery up.......hope to do atleast one cold ride before > > everyone puts up their horses for the winter......cya....Les Katana 750 > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:40:54 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA27255 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:40:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103124214.26261.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:42:14 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX, "O'Brien, Jeannette" Cc: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll do my famous Evel Kneivel imitation,the one where I attempt to jump 50 Gold Wings with a steamroller. ---christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > > That depends ... who's playing? > > --chris > > To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , 'Todd Peer' > , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > cc: > From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" > Date: 11/02/98 08:11:05 PM GMT > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > > > > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? > > - Jeannette > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:41:50 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27265 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by animal.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4Y7ZYDB7>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" , Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: SB XXXIII/Biker Party Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:41:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand the dreaming. I'm a Carolina boy -- my dreams have turned = into nightmares. =3D8^=DE=20 Go Vikings! Mitch -----Original Message----- From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 5:01 PM To: HolmesM@XXXXXX; Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: SB XXXIII/Biker Party I know. I know. A guy can dream though, can't he? Scooter >>> "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" 11/02/98 = 04:40PM >>> Not if they keep playing like yesterday. =20 Mitch -----Original Message----- From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:25 PM To: Horkster@XXXXXX=20 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party I'm also a Steelers fan since birth. Born and raised in Pennsyltucky. = I think "Slash" can do it though. You got to have faith. :-) Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:07PM >>> SCOTT Rush wrote: >=20 > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got=20 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers!=20 PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:56:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27459 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA17516 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (known send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA29034 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:56:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103125804.6228.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:58:04 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:58:04 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Quiz OTD To: Marvin Heilesen , NJitzul@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I got Angry Biker. Wow, what a surprise. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > Hmmm... they say I'm an Adrenalin Junkie! :) Who me? Noooo. > > Maybe if I had bought that CBR instead of the Shadow.... > > > > Robert "I know I'd kill myself on a crotch-rocket cause I'd > > want to see how fast it goes... " VanSlyke > > > > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" (enough speed to keep me happy) > > Same reason I don't even look at the crotch-rockets. I would not trust > myself. But, I di spend most of my time with a passenger. I will not > say how much she weighs, but I am well over 200. With me, her, and the > full T-Bag, I need the 1100... > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:59:05 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27535 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.65.242]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981103125831.XYRE9725@wotan> for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:58:31 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: "MC DC Cycles Submit" Subject: Sun Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:58:52 -0500 Message-ID: <002401be0729$b4f8a440$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? Rob Moody From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:59:07 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27537 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.65.242]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981103125824.XYQK9725@wotan> for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:58:24 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: "MC DC Cycles Submit" Subject: Law Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:58:44 -0500 Message-ID: <002301be0729$b07b8090$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane splitting" wherein a motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los Angeles and they gave tips on how to do it "safely" . I spoke with an officer in Northern Virginia and he said he would write a ticket for wreckless driving. I also ask him about going between cars that are stopped at a signal light to get to the front of the line. He called that illegal passing. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:00:32 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA27688 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:00:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103130158.26728.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:01:58 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:01:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could be weak spark. My duckling had this problem with the disadvantage of no kicker. Replace coils, wires, and caps, better than new. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > > > I'd definitely go with a battery tender. Glenn suggested > > the same to me last year & it was a godsend. I never had a > > problem starting her up after she'd been on the tender. > > Thanks for the advice. My biggest problem is that I think > the battery in my '78 Suzuki is the original. I have to > kick start it. Only if it has been running and the weather > is warm, will the thing start with the starter. > > Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, > too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost > dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > '78 GS400/'97 ACE 1100 > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:13:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27879 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA17686 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA29267 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-03.dial.nova.org (ra1-03.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.163]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA05548 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:13:35 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:19:21 GMT Message-ID: <36400149.45112348@beta.nova.org> References: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy Goldfine (owner of the RiderWearhouse/Aerostich) has offered us a 20% discount on the purchase of a replacement liner for Todd. Woo hoo! This is a company that makes great gear, has incredible customer service, and they even have a heart... I will give everyone another couple of days to get on the list to help split the cost of replacing Todd's stolen liner. After that point we'll make the order. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:15:43 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27921 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:15:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031315.IAA27921@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:15:13 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Law Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:12:32 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) That may be the case.. but if you think about things logically.. if traffic is backed up to the point where you feel like lane splitting.. the cops probably have something better to be doing with their time than attempting to weed you out of traffic to give you a ticket.. I lane split only when my bike starts overheating from sitting there.. which means I do it about 5 times a year.. I've never 'filtered' (getting to the front of a stoplight through stopped cars) - but I don't ever ride in the city either, so I have no place or need to.. It's probably more a moral issue than anything.. but if you do it, and you get a ticket.. just pay the damn thing and get on with it.. consider it 'paying your dues' Brian McCoy > -----Original Message----- > > > I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane > splitting" wherein > a motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los > Angeles and they > gave tips on how to do it "safely" . > > I spoke with an officer in Northern Virginia and he said he > would write a > ticket for wreckless driving. > > I also ask him about going between cars that are stopped at a > signal light > to get to the front of the line. He called that illegal passing. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:27:25 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28107 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A4B8A00250; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:27:20 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981103082840.00f1e520@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:29:16 -0500 To: "Robert L Moody" , "MC DC Cycles Submit" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Sun In-Reply-To: <002401be0729$b4f8a440$01010101@wotan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:58 AM 11/3/98 , Robert L Moody wrote: >When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I >put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not >an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the >shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? I put black plastic electrical tape over the add-on tint strip. Looks okay, and doesn't mar the visor. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:32:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28592 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA17834 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA29520 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA31641; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:32:58 -0500 Message-ID: <363F0546.E46F6FF4@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:29:42 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman , dc-cycles Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> <363E25A8.F2FFEB62@illuminet.net> <363E2A38.FF705FBB@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > > Paved? No! The goal on this ride is to find frozen gravel cowpaths. > Leon Begeman wrote: > > > > OK. here's my part. Let's go ride some twisty roads. I know of a road > > with some really tight switchbacks. It's Ridge Road in western Prince > > William County; about a half dozen first gear switchbacks going up the > > side of Bull Run Mountain. Dale again: > Not that I'm a wuss or anything, but first gear switchbacks > on a cold day on my birthday on the way to a party with a lasagna > strapped to the bike chasing a John Deere billygoat up a frozen gravel > cowpath with my top heavy streetbike just might be pushing the envelope > a little too much... ;) > > I guess I could always ditch the lasagna. After all, it will by > my birthday... :) -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:36:20 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28689 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:36:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103133748.20806.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:37:48 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:37:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Sun To: Robert L Moody , MC DC Cycles Submit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii An aviation-type tinted plastic sheet you can buy at an aviation type store (check the local FBO at your local small airport). It sticks by friction contact so the pilot can move it around to where it's needed. Easy to cut to the shape you need, whole shield or part, and you might be able to get two shields worth. I don't do this myself because I have to wear shades due to low eye pressure (don't ask, there's only two ways to get it and only one is legal). ---Robert L Moody wrote: > > When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I > put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not > an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the > shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? > > Rob Moody > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:46:21 1998 Return-Path: elkouss@XXXXXX Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28818 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT root)@rac6.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.146]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id IAA17411 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT sendmail)@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id IAA06747 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id IAA06742 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:15 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac6.wam.umd.edu: elkouss owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul F. Elkouss" cc: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: Re: Sun In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981103082840.00f1e520@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Troy lee makes a visor for this purpose, I think race car drivers use it on their helmets. Paul Elkouss University of Maryland 1990 Yamaha yx600 Radian From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:00:40 1998 Return-Path: tgimer@XXXXXX Received: from gemini.smart.net (gemini.smart.net [206.27.242.109]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29179 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from gimerhome (max2p206.smart.net [206.97.127.206]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA00098; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:00:31 -0500 Message-ID: <02e601be0732$f406d400$c77f61ce@gimerhome> From: "Thomas H. Gimer" To: , "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:04:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 -----Original Message----- From: Mark E. Truelove To: Tom Gimer ; Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner >There's still the possibility that one of the _non-list-reading_ guests >picked it up inadvertently or out of need, and just hasn't thought about it >since. No need for tempers to flare. Tell that to Todd. Inadvertantly taking a $170 liner? Come on. >However, chipping in seems like a great idea anyway. :) Looks like about $10 each (those who have voluteered) will do it. >MET > >At 02:07 PM 11/2/98 , Tom Gimer wrote: >>I was hoping that the prick who stole Todd's liner would just drop it >>off on his doorstep while Todd was at work, but that seems unlikely at >>this point. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:06:11 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29277 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:07:34 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:07:20 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: ERC Class Attendees - range Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline My bro-in-law agrees. He worked on a contract there for three weeks and = said that they don't bother with people that far away from the actual = building. It should be safe. Scooter >>> "Gil M. Nissley" 10/31/98 10:37PM >>> But as long as you do it out on the edge of Noth Parking,and nowhere near the building,there shouldn't be any probs.=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:13:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29420 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:13:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18276 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00822 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:13:36 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id FIBCa02301; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:12:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <187ac695.363f0f48@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:12:24 EST To: gnissley@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-03 00:44:14 EST, you write: << _CW_ rode in a race called the Numb Bumm a couple years ago.The track is pure ice with banking and everything.I think they ran an old GS1100 if memory serves. >> Sounds like a scene from 'Mad Maxx' that was cut for being too violent!!! Geez! (GS1100 + Ice / Studded Tires) * Adrenalin = Carnage on a Grand Scale! I like it. Sounds like a pay-per-view event to me. Where's SpeedVision when ya need em? Lung From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:32:26 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29751 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:32:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103143334.12884.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 06:33:33 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:33:33 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: TODD PEER CALL ME IMMEDIATELY! To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I can't find your phone number or email address. Ray Lucas 410 762 6710 I got some good news _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:46:11 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29952 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:46:25 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:46:14 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: M/C Clothing question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Money's not the problem. Just was looking for something a little lighter. = Thanks for the input though. Scooter >>> "McCoy, Brian NAB02" 11/03/98 = 07:02AM >>> hrmm.. this'd be best answered with a 'opinions may vary' answer. We already know (or should know) that even a fashon leather jacket (heavier than the leather shirts.. I've seen them before) more or less melt when = they touch terra firma at any kind of speed. I imagine that with the shirt, you'd be doing just about as much as wearing a denim jacket.. not much in other words. Plus you don't have any armor to keep you from hurting yourself on impact.. I bet for $150 or so Colleen could set you up with a nice jacket (if = money's a concern) - otherwise buy a cable lock and lock your gear to your bike. Brian=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:56 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; exup@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: M/C Clothing question >=20 >=20 > Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website=20 > that sells all kinds of leather goods, including pants and=20 > jackets. They had a nice zip-up leather shirt for $129 that=20 > they said is good for when you want to ride but don't want to=20 > wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? >=20 > The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under=20 > Shirts - Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice=20 > pants too. >=20 > Scooter >=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:56:34 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00165 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:56:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103145800.26921.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 06:58:00 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:58:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: TODD PEER CALL ME IMMEDIATELY! (Not about the liner) To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX, DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry, it's not about the liner. It's about something else that was being discussed on the list. Not potatos either, but with seven ceiling fans in my house and two in my garage I'll have to be careful! Unfortunately my house and garage are in Mobile. ---WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > In a message dated 11/3/98 9:40:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > raymondlucas@XXXXXX writes: > > << I can't find your phone number or email address. > Ray Lucas > 410 762 6710 > I got some good news >> > > Sounds like someone found the liner. > > Jack > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:01:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00283 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18851 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA02075 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA02205; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:00:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981103150043.YTLY649@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:00:43 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: The quiche Was: Todd's jacket liner Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:59:04 -0500 Message-ID: <000801be073a$7fa3ee60$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <019b01be06bd$db80f5c0$314f37a6@default> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > I think someone "borrowed" my R1 at Todd's party. If > everyone can chip > in and help me replace it, I'd be very grateful............ seriously, > great idea Kirk, count me in. That's the least some of us could do. I > mean, all I did was drink some, ok, a lot of Todd's home brew and > nibbled on > some yummy food. Hmmm, beer munchies....... BTW, who started on Mark's > quiche? I thought that was gonna go untouched(eh-hem...Urselina...cough, > cough). > > Jon I think Ursulina admitted to it before. I admit it though, I had some later as well. Damn good too, for being eggs and ham. Made a tasty part of breakfast too :) Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:09:51 1998 Return-Path: cna00039@XXXXXX Received: from gold.wvnet.edu (gold.wvnet.edu [129.71.2.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00415 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from bill (129.71.51.35) by gold.wvnet.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.AE14FF50@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:14:02 -0500 Message-ID: <004b01be073b$fe82c340$23334781@bill> Reply-To: "Bill Sowers" From: "Bill Sowers" To: Subject: Party Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:08:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE0711.ECFB8E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE0711.ECFB8E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd: Invite me to your next party. I need to "pick up a few things". Hope you get the jacket back, buddy. That's a real bummer...... = =20 Bill Sowers =20 HSTA * FJ Owners Club * HRC * SWVA Retreads * AMA '91 Yamaha FJ1200 '88 Honda Hawk GT650 =20 http://www.localweb.com/mtrspts/ (Including 380 MC Links) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE0711.ECFB8E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Invite me to your next party. I need = to=20 "pick up a few things".
 
 
Hope you get the jacket back, buddy. = That's a=20 real=20 bummer......          &= nbsp;       
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE0711.ECFB8E60-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:25:36 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00676 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24833 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:25:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981103102024.00ae3c50@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:25:47 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: RE: Law In-Reply-To: <199811031315.IAA27921@meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" i think i'd pay the ticket. for hating to drive/ride in traffic as much as i do, i think i'm pretty patient about it. i figure that by the time *I* get frustrated enough to go between cars, traffic's been sitting for a while and my only thought is to get off the highway. but i won't do it on my shadow (tried it once, had to replace a mirror). i haven't had the opportunity on my CB750 yet, but i'm looking forward to it. --w Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB-750 "Extra Sled" I've never been to good with names But I remember faces... From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:38:56 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00920 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA02374; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:39:22 -0500 Message-ID: <363F22E5.693772E5@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 15:36:05 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert L Moody CC: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: Re: Law X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <002301be0729$b07b8090$01010101@wotan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is one of the reasons I'm building a moped this winter. On a moped, both of those activities are legal in Virginia. Leon. Robert L Moody wrote: > > I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane splitting" wherein > a motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los Angeles and they > gave tips on how to do it "safely" . > > I spoke with an officer in Northern Virginia and he said he would write a > ticket for wreckless driving. > > I also ask him about going between cars that are stopped at a signal light > to get to the front of the line. He called that illegal passing. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:54:19 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01184 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:54:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031554.KAA01184@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:53:55 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: tis the season.. Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:51:19 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) to be buying bikes if you've got the cash.. I've seen tons of things hovering around the $2000 barier.. 2 87 VFRs.. 3~4 90~92 YZF600s, cb-1, secas... lots.. Look around if you don't believe me.. :) Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:55:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01202 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19621 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04530 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 307; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:53:45 -0500 Message-ID: <363F274C.A58BB139@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:54:52 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> <363E25A8.F2FFEB62@illuminet.net> <363E2A38.FF705FBB@tidalwave.net> <363F0546.E46F6FF4@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I asked: > > > Paved? And Leon answered: > No! The goal on this ride is to find frozen gravel cowpaths. Why am I not surprised? :) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:07:39 1998 Return-Path: louis@XXXXXX Received: from postal.clark.net (postal.clark.net [168.143.0.17]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01530 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:07:38 -0500 (EST) From: louis@XXXXXX Received: from shell.clark.net (clark.net [168.143.0.8]) by postal.clark.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16582; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21186; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:07:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031607.LAA21186@shell.clark.net> Subject: Those read and blue lights flashing... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List), cog@XXXXXX (COG Email) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:07:33 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text It's election day, and being a perfect American (ha!) I decided to go and vote. As I pulled up to the fire house where the vote was taking place, I searched for a parking spot. I noticed a police car behind me. Yikes, I'll be very carefull not to park in a bad spot. I saw one open space, but there was a fire hydrant near by, no no. Finally I did a U-turn and parked under some trees, being very carefull of the wet leaves. As I dismounted, the police car pulled up and turned it's lights on. Oh Crap!!! What did I do??? I asked if it was alright to park here, and he nodded. Then he said something I couldn't understand. I told him I did not have my hearing aids on. He came closer where I could speech read him better. He said he has a Concours too! (at least that is what I think he said) He was admiring my Givi bags and my Russell Saddle. Whew! I told him where I got the Givi, and who made the Russell. Too bad I had my hearing aids packed away, otherwise it could have been a nice conversation. (with the rain, I wanted them in a very water proof spot!) Stay dry (thanks Aerostich!) and Vote! Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/~louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | 7th Place, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:38:55 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01992 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA18936; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981103163602.BAS649@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:36:02 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: Law Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: <001201be0747$cf956720$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <199811031315.IAA27921@meretrix.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal I agree, if you get caught...... But think about it for a minute. Unless it's a motorcop, chances are you won't get caught. That said, I RARELY split lanes in VA. The cage drivers tend to get a little ape-like and direct their aggressive tendencies my way. DC on the otherhand.....I do it all the time. Funny thing though, when I worked in DC, most of the traffic was from VA! Never got the same reactions I did from the same drivers while in DC. The cops in DC also seem to have higher priorities, or just don't perceive lane splitting/filtering as a crime against the state, and therefore the 'morals' of the body. Ha ha ha. VA is SOoooo tight-assed! Todd Brian McCoy wrote: > That may be the case.. but if you think about things logically.. > if traffic > is backed up to the point where you feel like lane splitting.. the cops > probably have something better to be doing with their time than attempting > to weed you out of traffic to give you a ticket.. > > I lane split only when my bike starts overheating from sitting > there.. which > means I do it about 5 times a year.. I've never 'filtered' (getting to the > front of a stoplight through stopped cars) - but I don't ever ride in the > city either, so I have no place or need to.. > > It's probably more a moral issue than anything.. but if you do it, and you > get a ticket.. just pay the damn thing and get on with it.. consider it > 'paying your dues' > > Brian McCoy > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane > > splitting" wherein > > a motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los > > Angeles and they > > gave tips on how to do it "safely" . > > > > I spoke with an officer in Northern Virginia and he said he > > would write a > > ticket for wreckless driving. > > > > I also ask him about going between cars that are stopped at a > > signal light > > to get to the front of the line. He called that illegal passing. > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:44:23 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02116 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:44:20 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA23637; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:45:55 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma023488; Tue, 3 Nov 98 11:45:01 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1U00048UH7OV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B1.005B9423 ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:40:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:41:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Those read and blue lights flashing... To: louis@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Message-id: <852566B1.005B9192.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL NO WAY. I saw the police car pulling away. You voted at the firehouse on N. Paxton I presume, shortly after 8am? I also saw the Connie parked there. Louis we must live only a few blocks from each other. Strange ... -chris Red RF900r To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) , cog@XXXXXX (COG Email) cc: From: louis@XXXXXX Date: 11/03/98 04:07:33 PM GMT Subject: Those read and blue lights flashing... It's election day, and being a perfect American (ha!) I decided to go and vote. As I pulled up to the fire house where the vote was taking place, I searched for a parking spot. I noticed a police car behind me. Yikes, I'll be very carefull not to park in a bad spot. I saw one open space, but there was a fire hydrant near by, no no. Finally I did a U-turn and parked under some trees, being very carefull of the wet leaves. As I dismounted, the police car pulled up and turned it's lights on. Oh Crap!!! What did I do??? I asked if it was alright to park here, and he nodded. Then he said something I couldn't understand. I told him I did not have my hearing aids on. He came closer where I could speech read him better. He said he has a Concours too! (at least that is what I think he said) He was admiring my Givi bags and my Russell Saddle. Whew! I told him where I got the Givi, and who made the Russell. Too bad I had my hearing aids packed away, otherwise it could have been a nice conversation. (with the rain, I wanted them in a very water proof spot!) Stay dry (thanks Aerostich!) and Vote! Louis --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/~louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | 7th Place, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:46:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02157 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:46:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20354 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:46:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06084 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:46:28 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WNWPa13873 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:44:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:44:56 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Wow, this place must be OUT THERE. Hope its not TOO far. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:48:13 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02168 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by animal.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4Y7ZYDV3>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:47:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'louis@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cog@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Those read and blue lights flashing... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:47:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Well, this is one of the little irritating things about police. When I was 16 and had my 1956 Chevy (big tires, baby moon hubcaps, glaspaks, rolled-and-pleated interior), I was always getting pulled over. They'd check my driver's license, walk around my car, hand me back my license and say, "Nice car." Of course, my friends would see me being pulled over and would rag me the next day about what happened. Never got a ticket, thank goodness, but it was like they had nothing better to do and would stop me just to look at my car. In fact, some were even known to stop attractive female drivers just to get a better look. In the military, we call that misuse of authority. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: louis@XXXXXX [mailto:louis@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 11:08 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; cog@XXXXXX Subject: Those read and blue lights flashing... It's election day, and being a perfect American (ha!) I decided to go and vote. As I pulled up to the fire house where the vote was taking place, I searched for a parking spot. I noticed a police car behind me. Yikes, I'll be very carefull not to park in a bad spot. I saw one open space, but there was a fire hydrant near by, no no. Finally I did a U-turn and parked under some trees, being very carefull of the wet leaves. As I dismounted, the police car pulled up and turned it's lights on. Oh Crap!!! What did I do??? I asked if it was alright to park here, and he nodded. Then he said something I couldn't understand. I told him I did not have my hearing aids on. He came closer where I could speech read him better. He said he has a Concours too! (at least that is what I think he said) He was admiring my Givi bags and my Russell Saddle. Whew! I told him where I got the Givi, and who made the Russell. Too bad I had my hearing aids packed away, otherwise it could have been a nice conversation. (with the rain, I wanted them in a very water proof spot!) Stay dry (thanks Aerostich!) and Vote! Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/~louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | 7th Place, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:50:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02261 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20398 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (known imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06175 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:50:42 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WMZRa19214 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:49:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6759300e.363f3435@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:49:57 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/3/98 11:36:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, RLucas@XXXXXX writes: << 707 Ordnance Road, Glen Burnie, MD >> I really hate to sound like a complainer but thats a LONG ASS ride in the morning for most of us coming from northern VA and to be there at 9? Yikes, its way out there. Anybody know about how long it takes? Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:53:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02287 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20423 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (known imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06270 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WOMSa19215 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:52:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <84cc3899.363f34e6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:52:54 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandria Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/3/98 11:51:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, christopher.meier@XXXXXX writes: << I saw the police car pulling away. You voted at the firehouse on N. Paxton I presume, shortly after 8am? I also saw the Connie parked there. Louis we must live only a few blocks from each other. Strange ... >> Yeah even stranger, I live in the Alex area too and work on King St down by the Temple. Funny, I never really thought any of us lived near each other. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 12:02:55 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02455 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20582 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (known send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06582 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:02:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103170402.21154.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:04:02 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:04:02 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Glen Burnie is south of Balto. It's about 25 miles from the DC beltway if you take 295. (that's 40 km to you COllin) ---WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > Wow, this place must be OUT THERE. Hope its not TOO far. > > Jack > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 12:06:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02542 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20644 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06713 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16689; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:07:41 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0E3@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'WantAZX6@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: locations: RE: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandri a Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:07:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Speaking of this, Todd, do you have the map that we all stuck pins in with our home locations?? I'm guessing the idea was to compile some of the data digitally?? Maybe not home phone numbers and actual addresses (privacy info), but a digital map with red stars iindicating peoples locations would be really neat.... > -----Original Message----- > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX [SMTP:WantAZX6@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:05 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandria > > Funny, I never really thought any of us lived near each other. > > Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 12:13:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02661 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20763 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.us.pw.com (known pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06892 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA06581; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:14:30 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma006339; Tue, 3 Nov 98 12:13:53 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1U002KEVS22N@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B1.005E23C4 ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:08:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:08:57 -0500 Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B1.005E128B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Yeah, it must similar to what all those folks in MD feel everytime we plan a ride in NoVa, or a party at Todd's ... lots of them seem to make it though. Hmmm, --chris Alex, VA. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Date: 11/03/98 04:49:57 PM GMT Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. In a message dated 11/3/98 11:36:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, RLucas@XXXXXX writes: << 707 Ordnance Road, Glen Burnie, MD >> I really hate to sound like a complainer but thats a LONG ASS ride in the morning for most of us coming from northern VA and to be there at 9? Yikes, its way out there. Anybody know about how long it takes? Jack ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 12:37:52 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02997 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:37:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031737.MAA02997@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:37:33 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: ERC Class: The When and Where. Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:34:50 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) I thought it was normal to expect to ride 60~100 miles to get to the meeting place of where a ride starts.. well, till I started making rides by myself in MD.. and found my round trip mileage was cut usualy in half.. with the same amount of fun.. :P >From the top of the beltway (97/295/95 north) it'll take you about 30 minutes - how long it takes you to get to the top of the beltway is for you to figure out. Brian > -----Original Message----- > > Yeah, it must similar to what all those folks in MD feel > everytime we plan > a ride in NoVa, or a party at Todd's ... lots of them seem to make it > though. > > Hmmm, > In a message dated 11/3/98 11:36:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, > RLucas@XXXXXX writes: > > << 707 Ordnance Road, Glen Burnie, MD >> > > I really hate to sound like a complainer but thats a LONG ASS > ride in the > morning for most of us coming from northern VA and to be there at 9? > Yikes, > its way out there. > Anybody know about how long it takes? > > Jack > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other > use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any > computer. > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 13:29:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03673 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21772 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09513 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22472; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:30:54 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0E5@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Ray'" , WantAZX6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: ERC Class: The When and Where. Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:30:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Man, I'm never gonna live that one down am I :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:12 PM > To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. > > > (that's 40 km to you COllin) > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 13:43:54 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03962 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21983 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (known send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09916 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:43:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103184352.19989.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:43:52 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:43:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: ERC Class: The When and Where. To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , WantAZX6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm sure you can find a refresher course in metric conversion in grad school. The only celius/farenheit you'll need to know up there: 0C = 32F I prefer the Kelvin scale: "Hey, Kelvin, go outside and see how cold it is!" ---"Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: > > Man, I'm never gonna live that one down am I :) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:12 PM > > To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. > > > > > > (that's 40 km to you COllin) > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 14:14:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04397 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22455 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11393 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:13:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA20670; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981103190253.BSHI649@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:02:53 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , , Subject: RE: locations: RE: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandria Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:01:12 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01be075c$52cffa60$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0E3@MSCEX> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Yep, that was the idea! I've been pretty busy lately, but I'm going to use Street Atlas 5. to get people listed. I'll post something with info limited to name/email to the web, and offer the SA5 file to those who have SA5. Don't ask when this will happen, I don't know. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [mailto:cfagan@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:08 PM > To: 'WantAZX6@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: locations: RE: Those read and blue lights flashing... - > alexandria > > > Speaking of this, Todd, do you have the map that we all stuck pins in with > our home locations?? I'm guessing the idea was to compile some > of the data > digitally?? Maybe not home phone numbers and actual addresses (privacy > info), but a digital map with red stars iindicating peoples > locations would > be really neat.... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX [SMTP:WantAZX6@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:05 PM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandria > > > > Funny, I never really thought any of us lived near each other. > > > > Jack > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 15:13:11 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05412 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23415 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net (known mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA13320 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [209.48.224.40]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA29348 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:12:09 -0500 (EST) From: Dawn Gibson To: DC Cycles Subject: Hardbags, they're HERE! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My hardbags came in from Champion Sidecar in California. This is a brand new product for the Virago and they really look sharp! If anyone is interested in seeing what they look like, Champion finally put them on its web page at http://www.championsidecars.com/hardbags/viragoliberty.cfm or you can email me and I'll reply with a pic or two of mine. I didn't want to take up bandwidth sending them to the whole list. Dawn '96 Virago 1100 Special, Knowmad (ain't I purdy now!) *====================================================================* from the mist and shadows, like a memory of things to come.... to wander the paths of moonlight on water, in search of honesty, empathy, beaches at sunrise, mountains under stars and eyes to laugh back at mine... *====================================================================* Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX *====================================================================* From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 15:31:50 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05716 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.64.42]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981103203116.ECJE9083@wotan> for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:31:16 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: "MC DC Cycles Submit" Subject: Rain Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:31:38 -0500 Message-ID: <001101be0768$f51945e0$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Any one know where I can get a wax called "Crystal Clear"? It's put on the outside of the face shield. By turning the head sideways while moving, rain drops are cleared from the shield by the wind. Thanks, Rob From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 16:30:52 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06666 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:30:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:30:38 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 03 Nov 1998 16:27:46 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 03 Nov 1998 16:27:46 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 032A8363F7552016-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 032A8363F7552016 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <032A8363F7552016*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 03 Nov 1998 16:27:46 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: RE: Rain Message-Id: <032A8363F7552016*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Sounds like Rain-X, which can be picked up virtually anywhere. I've never heard of Crystal Clear, but I have used Rain-X on my clear shield and it does work. Don B -----Original Message----- From: Robert L Moody [SMTP:robmoody@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 3:55 PM To: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: Rain Any one know where I can get a wax called "Crystal Clear"? It's put on the outside of the face shield. By turning the head sideways while moving, rain drops are cleared from the shield by the wind. Thanks, Rob From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 16:43:55 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06891 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA13173; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:44:36 -0500 Message-ID: <363F787B.540E77F4@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 21:41:15 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert L Moody CC: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: Re: Rain X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <001101be0768$f51945e0$01010101@wotan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert L Moody wrote: > > Any one know where I can get a wax called "Crystal Clear"? It's put on the > outside of the face shield. By turning the head sideways while moving, rain > drops are cleared from the shield by the wind. On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. It's also always available, there's always a can of it in the house somewhere. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:02:37 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07226 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 257; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:01:22 -0500 Message-ID: <363F7D74.C804F6EA@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:02:28 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Rain References: <001101be0768$f51945e0$01010101@wotan> <363F787B.540E77F4@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leon Begeman wrote: > > On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. Does it help resist fogging? Just curious. Now if I could past that darned "Lemon Fresh" smell... :( Horkster, tired of using the Rain-X anti fog stuff every couple of days... -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:06:47 1998 Return-Path: ramsr@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.microsoft.com (mail1.microsoft.com [131.107.3.125]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07340 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by INET-IMC-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:06:12 -0800 Message-ID: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> From: "Ram K. Srinivasan" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: hi - need help :) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:06:04 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Greetings All! I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. :) Just finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. Need some advice on a few topics: 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is taught in the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with a plain learners permit, right?) 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does anyone else here have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't have a manual? Could some kind soul, possibly xerox his/hers for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying charges etc? 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money on it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice on much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good helmets? (brandnames etc?) Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? Please do a direct reply to me too! many thanx & look forward to hanging out with you guys. -Ram :) ---------------------------------------- Rám Srinivasan Microsoft Corp. W: 202-895-2109 ramsr@XXXXXX ---------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:11:50 1998 Return-Path: mdpetty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07419 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <46K8T3R4>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:07:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: "'cycles'" Subject: RE: Rain Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:07:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] > > Robert L Moody wrote: > > > > Any one know where I can get a wax called "Crystal Clear"? It's put > on the > > outside of the face shield. By turning the head sideways while > moving, rain > > drops are cleared from the shield by the wind. > > On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. It's > also > always available, there's always a can of it in the house somewhere. > If you believe that, you've never lived like a bachelor like I lived as a bachelor. I won't go into the unpleasant details, but for a while it seemed that we had decided that it was easier to move than to clean. -mark '83 V65 Magna From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:18:15 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07545 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA25638 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18680 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA16598; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981103221716.DZRB649@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:17:16 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Dawn Gibson" , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: Hardbags, they're HERE! Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:15:35 -0500 Message-ID: <002b01be0777$7af48360$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Very cool! I never had saddlebags on my Shadow, but I've had 'em on my NiteHawk. Not very sturdy after all (soft sidebags). The ST comes with them integrated and removeable like luggage. I've gotten so used to them and love them Todd Dawn Gibson Wrote: > > > My hardbags came in from Champion Sidecar in California. This is a brand > new product for the Virago and they really look sharp! If anyone is > interested in seeing what they look like, Champion finally put them on its > web page at > > http://www.championsidecars.com/hardbags/viragoliberty.cfm > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:36:07 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07882 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:37:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:36:43 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, ramsr@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline >>> "Ram K. Srinivasan" 11/03/98 05:06PM=20 > > >Greetings All! Hello. >I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. :) Just >finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. Need some advice on = a >few topics: You came to the right place for that. >1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA = (due >to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go = get >a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not >being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is = taught >n the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would >rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a = problem >on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with = a >plain learners permit, right?)=20 When I took it, the instructor said that the MD MVA will usually take it. = Don't know though. You can ride anywhere on a learner's permit. You just = can't ride after dark. >3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money = on >it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice = on >much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good >helmets? (brandnames etc?) I like Shoei but it's all a matter of personal comfort. Arai's are good = too. Both will run you in the $200-$500 range but well worth it. >Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? There's usually a ride every weekend hosted by someone different each = time. Usually Anita though, she's got some pretty good rides put = together. >Please do a direct reply to me too! =20 OK >many thanx & look forward to hanging out with you guys. > >-Ram :) No Problemo Batman. Hey guys, Look! He works for Microsoft. Tell Bill I said Hi. :-) >---------------------------------------- >R=DFm Srinivasan >Microsoft Corp. >W: 202-895-2109 >ramsr@XXXXXX=20 >---------------------------------------- Scooter From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:38:31 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07912 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:39:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:39:22 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: mrider@XXXXXX, Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline That's an interesting little trick. I've never heard of that. Does it = smear or distort the view? Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/03/98 05:02PM >>> Leon Begeman wrote: >=20 > On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. Does it help resist fogging? Just curious. Now if I could past that darned "Lemon Fresh" smell... :( Horkster, tired of using the Rain-X anti fog stuff every couple of days... --=20 Dale Horstman (the Horkster) =20 horkster@XXXXXX =20 Dale City, Virginia =20 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" =20 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:46:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08049 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA26074 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (known imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA20261 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:46:21 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WAGa017824 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:45:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:45:23 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: hi - need help :) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Welcome Ram! I started riding on a GS500 as well. Great learner bike! Unfortunately I sold mine along with the manual quite awhile ago. We get together quite often for rides usually during the summer tho. Glad to have you aboard! Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:49:33 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08067 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-40-44.s44.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.44]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25688; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:49:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363F8B47.517C@iname.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:01:27 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) References: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: > Greetings All! Hello. = > I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. = > :) Just finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. = > Need some advice on a few topics: > = > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took = > was in VA (due to lack of availability this year in MD). = > Now I'm qualified in VA to go get a license. How much = > headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not being in = > VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is = > taught in the both states. I'm basically trying to = > expediate things, and would rather not have to take the = > skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem on its own, = > 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself = > with a plain learners permit, right?) Here I cannot help you. I have an Idaho DL and have no ideas abou the requirements here. = > 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does = > anyone else here have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't = > have a manual? Could some kind soul, possibly xerox his/hers = > for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying charges etc? I have a GS400, but not only am I sure that they are not even close to the same, but I don't have the book for it either. But, I might be able to help. LilBkrBabe has a URL that she gave me (and I lost) that has all sorts of motorcycle mailing list, including this one. But, there was one for Suzuki's that the guy had a web page with all sorts of information. I didn't save the info, either. HEY LEE, CAN YOU HELP ME HERE!!!! > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend = > gobs of money on it....but at the same time don't want to = > compromise safety? Any advice on much I could spend (so I = > don't get ripped off) and any particulary good helmets? = > (brandnames etc?) I better not get started here on my views on helmets except that any helmet will just about guarantee a neck injury... = > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners = > here? I am new on the list, but from what I have seen, the people do get together. I know two of us (so far) are getting together on Veterans Day to ride over to DE. As for being a beginner, we all were at one time or another. Now, I think my ass has become the same shape as my bike's seat.... = > Please do a direct reply to me too! Done > R=E1m Srinivasan > Microsoft Corp. Microsoft, eh? I'm sorry.... -- = Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:57:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08255 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA26311 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (known imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA20913 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:57:51 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WDZAa04680 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:56:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <89667524.363f8a34@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:56:52 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: hi - need help :) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_910133813_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_910133813_boundary Content-ID: <0_910133813@XXXXXX> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_910133813_boundary Content-ID: <0_910133813@XXXXXX> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: LungHD@XXXXXX Return-path: To: ramsr@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:54:51 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Welcome! - Helmets are a matter of personal preference for your riding style, talk to your local shop dealer & make sure it's DOT and preferably also SNELL approved. I'm sure the guys here will have plenty of advice on brand names & prices. Somebody'll probably have a line on your manual too. RE the Moto Safety Course, if ya took it in VA & are moving to VA just go to DMV in VA. No worries that way & no need to bring a bike for DMV crash & burn. (Which I did, er, did NOT do years ago. Not that I'd admit it. Ever. Thank god that this did not happen after I did not go in for the test. Nor did I skulk outta the lot before not going in since I was not now missing signal lenses before I did not dump the bike in the DMV lot that was not wet when I was not there. Also, not one of you have read this, nor did you believe it when you didn't read it.) not Lung --part0_910133813_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:29:38 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08718 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:29:20 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr32-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.74.251]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33507) with SMTP id <0F1V00NOUD7G0X@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:28:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:30:42 -0500 Subject: Re: tis the season.. To: "'dc'" Message-id: <008d01be0781$fafcce00$fb4a37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >to be buying bikes if you've got the cash.. I've seen tons of things >hovering around the $2000 barier.. 2 87 VFRs.. 3~4 90~92 YZF600s, cb-1, >secas... lots.. > >Look around if you don't believe me.. :) > >Brian McCoy Yup, saw a 85' V45 Magna with 11k for $700 in the Baltimore Sun. Wonder what it looks like........ Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:31:18 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA08777 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:31:14 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id SAA04025; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:33:01 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma003936; Tue, 3 Nov 98 18:32:34 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1V00DOYDCKTT@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B1.0080E4C9 ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:27:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:27:39 -0500 Subject: New Rider To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B1.0080E420.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi all! Like Ram, I am also a new rider. I took the MSF course a few months ago and have been riding since then on my '92 Yamaha Seca II. I'm also interested in going on some group rides as long as they're ones in which I'll be free to ride my own pace. From reading some of the archives, this doesn't sound like it should be too much of a problem. I live in the Manassas area, so if you see a bright red Seca rider with a black Shoei around there, give a wave. Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:39:03 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08919 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:38:59 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3SOKa29185 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:38:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:38:07 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: New Guy - GS500/New guy VTR1000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 1. I know nothing about the resiprocity (sp?)between states on RSF courses. Sorry! 2. If no one has a manual for you a shop can order one for you for cheap. Get the service manual anyway. Thats where all the real useful info is. 3. The only helmet I'll buy is Arai. It's the most comfortable and feels the most secure for my head. They generally are the most expensive, but as some say, "if you have a $100 head, buy a $100 helmet." The helmet, jacket, and gloves are not the place to go cheap. Another good quote is "Dress for the crash, not for the ride" Arai's quality is impeccable, plus for me Arai has the best fit, and that will become more important the more you ride. Lastly, I'm new to the list too and would like to go on some group rides if there are any. I live in Loudoun County and ride a VTR1000. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:44:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09034 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:44:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA26995 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.151]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA22278 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:44:28 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr32-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.74.251]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F1V00O8PDWQT8@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:43:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:45:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Hardbags, they're HERE! To: Todd Peer , DC Cycles Message-id: <011001be0784$1af69e00$fb4a37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Very cool! I never had saddlebags on my Shadow, but I've had 'em on my >NiteHawk. >Todd What the heck is a "NiteHawk"???? 8^P Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:50:51 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.151]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09180 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:50:48 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr32-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.74.251]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F1V007GVE7K7C@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:50:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:52:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Sun To: Robert L Moody , MC DC Cycles Submit Message-id: <013601be0785$0334f680$fb4a37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I >put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not >an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the >shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? > >Rob Moody www.troyleedesigns.com they have sun visors for your shield. I saw Todd Peer with electrical tape on his...... Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:02:40 1998 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09394 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:02:31 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3WIUa03785 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:00:59 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:00:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 Hello, I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when three new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak up. I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at http://www.leatherexcahnge.com thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:03:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09409 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA27239 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA22717 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:02:48 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr32-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.74.251]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33510) with SMTP id <0F1V00CKIER7IY@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:02:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 19:04:08 -0500 Subject: Re: The quiche Was: Todd's jacket liner To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <014401be0786$a8736720$fb4a37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >I think Ursulina admitted to it before. I admit it though, I had some later >as well. Damn good too, for being eggs and ham. Made a tasty part of >breakfast too :) > >Todd Breakfast? I thought you'd be having something that would cure your hangover. 8^) Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:17:11 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09642 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA27436 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (known imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA23073 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:16:57 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WCYUa29185 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:15:54 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <62e1b96a.363f9cba@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:15:54 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: New Guy - GS500/New guy VTR1000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 << Lastly, I'm new to the list too and would like to go on some group rides if there are any. I live in Loudoun County and ride a VTR1000. >> Uh ohhh......my ears start to ring when I hear that name. Mine: It is thou, my arch enemy, the VTR1000 His: I see you havent changed a bit since our last confrontation Mine: As neither have you, PREPARE TO DUEL! (as only big bore VTwins can). HAHA Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:38:19 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09996 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14014; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:38:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36402B45.9EF84DB9@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 05:24:05 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Heilesen CC: "Ram K. Srinivasan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) References: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> <363F8B47.517C@iname.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend > > gobs of money on it....but at the same time don't want to > > compromise safety? Any advice on much I could spend (so I > > don't get ripped off) and any particulary good helmets? > > (brandnames etc?) > > I better not get started here on my views on helmets except that any > helmet will just about guarantee a neck injury... Without starting the flame battle on helmets again, nor scaring the poor newbie to death with unsubtantiatable facts, let's just leave it at the fact that in MD, VA, and DC the current law is that you have to wear a helmet. If you don't like it join groups such as ABATE,etc. that lobby against it as well as write your politicians. -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:53:41 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA10216 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29874; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:53:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36402F08.F986B2B7@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 05:40:08 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) References: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: > > Greetings All! Howdy back at ya... > > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due > to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get > a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not > being in VA? I too cannot help on this one... Oregon residency just has too many perks for me to switch over (I'm military and it's my legal state of residency) > > 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does anyone else here > have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't have a manual? Could some kind > soul, possibly xerox his/hers for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying > charges etc? The GS500 has been around long enough that there should be Clymer and Hanes manuals available for them which will be pretty cheap and nearly as good as a factory manual (sometimes better). I'd also highly recommend getting a parts microfische for it as the pics on those are better than any in the manuals (then print out hard copies of each frame) (The dreaded Colemans had em for $4) > > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money on > it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice on > much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good > helmets? (brandnames etc?) Arai is generally considered top of the line(extremely light). AGV and Shoei are generally mid line models, but just as good on safety. HJC and Bieffe make excellent low end helmets, but you pay for it a bit in comfort... HJC's are great and only cost about $130 for solid colors, but they are very heavy. Definitely try one on before buying... Some folks have Shoei shaped head (I ain't one of em) and others have an Arai shaped head... For Solid colors ( and my numbers are rough and for full face helmets) you're looking at around $350+ for Arai, $150 to $250 for Shoei, and less than $150 for Shoei/Bieffe/Bell (Bell and Bieffe made in the same factory these days) Coleman Powersports in Falss Church wil have a great selection to look at, but their prices are way overboard. If you've got the time, youmight head out to Valley Cycles in Winchester. They are waaaaaay cheaper, and generally have lots in stock. You might also get lucky and catch them with a sale on a discontinued style (they had some awesome Bell M2's last summer for $105...too bad I was broke) > > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? > plenty of folks at all ranges of the spectrum. Iv'e been riding around 16 years, but I always am learning something new (specially when driving anywhere in the metro area). Also, a couple of us on the list are racers as well....so if ya like that sort of thing, ya better come out to the track to cheer us on next summer :) There's generally a group ride or three going on all the time... In the summer time, there tends to be many ides available every weekend, so the size of the groups tends to be smaller... As the colder months approach, I've noticed that the group size gets bigger due to less rides (ie dc-cycles are the only nuts out riding in groups..all the dealers just sponser em in summer..) Welcome aboard.... Collin -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:08:14 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10431 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-142-142.s142.tnt21.brd.erols.com [207.172.142.142]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00613; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:08:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004901be0797$e700d480$8e8eaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Gil M. Nissley" , Subject: Re: insurance... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:07:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 They only offer the course up at Fort Meade and Fort Belvoir....the Belvoir class is supposedly full until after Christmas....The reason I want to take the course on base for those who are wondering is that it is free, because it is mandatory....or atleast it used to be???? the Navy Yard and Bolling also told me that my course cert. was outdated.....I took the course in Sep. of 90 when I was stationed in VA. Beach...the insurance company...(Progressive) also said for their purposes the cert. needs to be done every 3 years..doesn't sound right to me..maybe they have someone who offers the course and they split the profits......Les Kat 750 besides according to the Provost Marshall(army thing) my MSF certificate which is about 4 years old is not current enough to ride the bike on base....Les Kat 750.. Sounds goofy to me.My card is from '90 and I've never been hassled. Why not just take the course again? The official BuellBoy Genes model. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:13:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10538 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA28308 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA24425 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:41 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WHFNa07909 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:09 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:09 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: hi - need help :) -helmet Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/3/98 8:47:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gixer@XXXXXX writes: << Without starting the flame battle on helmets again, nor scaring the poor newbie to death with unsubtantiatable facts, let's just leave it at the fact that in MD, VA, and DC the current law is that you have to wear a helmet. If you don't like it join groups such as ABATE,etc. that lobby against it as well as write your politicians. >> Good suggestion Collin. The emphasis should definitely be on the fact that in this area you are REQUIRED by law to wear one. If you dont like it, good for you, bitch and moan and complain and mumble...but you still have to wear it. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:15:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10580 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA28317 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:15:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA24449 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-142-142.s142.tnt21.brd.erols.com [207.172.142.142]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04413; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:14:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006a01be0798$dd195180$8e8eaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Kirk Roy" , Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:14:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Good Idea Kirk....tell us when and where to send the cash...Thanx Les Kat 750 Andy Goldfine (owner of the RiderWearhouse/Aerostich) has offered us a 20% discount on the purchase of a replacement liner for Todd. Woo hoo! This is a company that makes great gear, has incredible customer service, and they even have a heart... I will give everyone another couple of days to get on the list to help split the cost of replacing Todd's stolen liner. After that point we'll make the order. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:26:36 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10708 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:26:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-142-142.s142.tnt21.brd.erols.com [207.172.142.142]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10767 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:26:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006f01be079a$7c1595e0$8e8eaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "'dc'" Subject: Re: Law Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:26:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Lane Splitting.... I ride to work just about everyday and have seen guys...usually on Harleys or Wings get on the shoulder lane and pass everyone.....I don't do it myself..and my bike is air cooled and does get hot sometimes...IMHO its bad etiquette... besides after people in the cages see the bikes go by and get pissed they tend to inch a little closer to my back tire.....doesn't bother me, if they hit my tire and knock me over in bumper to bumper traffic they better run over me or I will probably kill them with my helmet or boots..I can take just about any lil D.C. nerd...especially the ones in the volvo's that have no mirrors or turn signals.....just a thought.....Les Kat 750 Even when I lived in San Diego, Kalifornia..I didn't lane split or creep at lights....however I have cut across the medium and over side walks on my dual sport...sounds hypocritical doesn't it...that was when I was young and stupid.... From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:44:54 1998 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11084 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:44:53 -0500 (EST) From: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from default (207-172-32-2.s2.as9.rkv.erols.com [207.172.32.2]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA21386 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:44:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363FD55B.70E2@erols.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:17:31 -0800 Reply-To: rdrdr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 11/02/98 References: <199811030000.TAA15450@meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey - sounds good for my DR650 !!! Just waiting on my new clutch. >OK. here's my part. Let's go ride some twisty roads. I know of a road >with some really tight switchbacks. It's Ridge Road in western Prince >William County; about a half dozen first gear switchbacks going up the >side of Bull Run Mountain. Using one of Chris Norloff's winter riding >rules, "you know you're a winter rider when gravel in the turns looks >good because you know it isn't as slippery as ice" This road is never >slippery in the summer, and most of the time it's just as good in the >winter.> > >I'll watch the weather report and plan a route that is close to >Jeannette and Tom yet is sure to include some relatively rough unpaved >roads. Better weather will insure more miles. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 21:17:46 1998 Return-Path: wes@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11593 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mary-ann (207-172-223-204.s204.tnt5.man.erols.com [207.172.223.204]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA13172 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:17:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811040217.VAA13172@smtp3.erols.com> X-Sender: wes@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 21:11:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: wes Subject: Re: hi - need help :) In-Reply-To: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My advice would be to go with a Shoei. Great helmet. You can sometimes find really good helmets for a lower price because they're on clearance -- last year's model or an unpopular color or just plain overstock. More advice would be to remember that it's your *head* you're protecting. Get the best helmet you can afford. If you have to spend an few dozen extra $$$, somewhere down the road it could save you $$$ in hospital bills. DOT & Snell ratings are a must. Do some research and get a helmet you *trust*. I use a Shoei RF-800 for that reason. --wes >3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money on >it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice on >much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good >helmets? (brandnames etc?) wes@XXXXXX '96 Shadow / '78 CB750K "oh, i can't change what i am right now but i'll be fine in the next life" -- i mother earth From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 21:49:53 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11998 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:49:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA29687 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (known camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA26477 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hgg (user-37kbm48.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.216.136]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28114 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:49:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981103215038.007eb300@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 21:50:38 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:11 PM 11/3/98 -0500, wes wrote: >My advice would be to go with a Shoei. The only caveat to that is that people seem to have either a Shoei head or an Arai head. Shoei fits better on rounder heads (viewed from above), while Arai does better on a more oval head. All my previous helmets were from Shoei. They fit very snugly against my forehead, though relativley loose around my cheeks. I used to get a red dot in the middle of my forehead after a hour or so. I tried on an Arai and it fit so much better. I'll never wear anything else (unless my head shape changes!). Others I know have had the reverse experience. Conclusion: try a bunch of brands to find one that fits well all over. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 23:29:33 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13467 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:29:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00977 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA28416 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:29:24 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WNBRa07909 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:28:48 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:28:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: tis the season.. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Hey everyone, maybe you can help me out..... I'm looking to buy a new bike, (well, new to me anyways....not necessarily showroom new...) and would be more appreciative if you can let me know of any interesting bikes that you might happen to hear about. I'm trying to stay under 3 grand, and not really interested in cruisers. The Grandpa-Ceptor I ride now, ('83), is around 550 lbs. and 60 hp....I'd like a little less of the former and a little more of the latter. Thanks for any and all possible assistance! Dress warm kids! -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 23:33:40 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13508 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00780; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:29:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:25:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: M/C Clothing question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, SCOTT Rush wrote: > Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website that sells all kinds of leather goods, including pants and jackets. They had a nice zip-up leather shirt for $129 that they said is good for when you want to ride but don't want to wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? > The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under Shirts - Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice pants too. JMHO,but I think I'd rather buy my protective gear from a place that sells to racers;not one that makes leather roses and g-strings. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 23:38:29 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13624 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00810; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:34:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:30:36 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: Ray cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19981103121652.3782.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > I got stopped at the gate at > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, so > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 23:44:18 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13712 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00845; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:40:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:37:09 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Sun To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <002401be0729$b4f8a440$01010101@wotan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Robert L Moody wrote: > When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I > put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not > an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the > shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? Two ideas.One,put some tape on the inside of the visor so it won't be too visible(black would look best).Two,get one of those strip decals that are made for this.I saw them a couple years ago in a Lockhart catalog.They're decals that go across the top of the shield and usually mave manufacturers' logos or summat.Check the decal pages in a Dennis Kirk catalog and you might find them. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 00:08:49 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14054 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA02536 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA29247 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.43]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 00:05:43 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: ERC Class: The When and Where. Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:11:11 -0500 Message-ID: <006101be07b1$898d57a0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6759300e.363f3435@aol.com> Bitch, moan, whine. Takes about 35 minutes, if there's no radar traps. From Waldorf, that is. :) And this is a free service. Can't complain but so much. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Anybody know about how long it takes? > > Jack > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 01:01:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA14782 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA03183 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00171 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:01:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 00:58:33 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: SilverWing Page Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:04:02 -0500 Message-ID: <007701be07b8$eb8e48e0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Found this. Don't know if it is for the CX and GL, or just the GL. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/7297/ ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 01:17:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA14979 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA03346 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00416 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 01:14:40 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Anybody ride Hampton Roads area? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <007a01be07bb$2b5ac3c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal http://sony.inergy.com/vger1200/ ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 01:19:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA14989 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA03362 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00453 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 01:16:39 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Anybody buy a bike from them? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:22:07 -0500 Message-ID: <007b01be07bb$7265b720$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal http://www.toad.net/~usedbike/ ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 02:03:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA15708 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA03810 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA00997 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 02:00:22 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: a net mag for all of us Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:05:41 -0500 Message-ID: <007c01be07c1$88812480$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal http://www.squidlys.com/ ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 05:34:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA19848 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA05974 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:34:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA03359 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-19.dial.nova.org (pm1-19.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.147]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA18435 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:33:24 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:39:29 GMT Message-ID: <36442e2a.122148887@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Woo hoo! After considering the different satellite options in order to get Speedvision it's finally coming to Jones Cable in PG County. December 1st is supposed to be the first day... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 07:19:31 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA21290 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:19:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811041219.HAA21290@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:19:22 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, ramsr@XXXXXX Subject: RE: hi - need help :) (specific to helmets) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:15:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Ram - Basically, you're going to want to stick with 2 or 3 different brands. Those would be AGV, Arai, and Shoie. AGV might turn out to be the type of helmet that's still pretty affordable with some features (like venting) - but my experiences with them have shown that they don't last well with extended use, and the fit and finish is low. Between Shoie and Arai - I think they're about equal in fit and finish, and close on price. They both make several 'levels' of helmet to fit different price ranges - with the main difference being the removal of some venting. These 2 makers form the inside of the helmet for different shaped heads - and the only way you'll know what kind of head you have is to try them on. Personally, I'm an Arai head (Cro-Magnon - flat forehead, rather than sloped). Arai has a model NR2 that's a great first lid - runs about $170 (that's what my shop has it for at least) in solid colors. Shoie has an equivalent in the RFR - I paid $130 for my solid white one - I'm unhappy with the fit, the 'ratchet' mechanism (for the shield) and the shield optics.. but it's a race-only (well, does passenger duty sometimes) lid.. so I live with it.. plus it's cheap to replace if I crash. Arai then has the Signet and Shoie the RF-800 - these are probably the most popular of the brands helmets just because they combine price and features.. I know nothing about either helmet. Then you get up to the Arai Quantum and the Shoie x-9, top of the line STREET lids - top dollar price (Arai is about $400 for a solid color, Shoie's are $50 less). VERY comfortable helmets, durable, good venting, long lasting, impeccable fit and finish (Lets put it this way, I've been wearing my Arai for 4 years - umm.. almost EVERY DAY for 4 years and it's still quite, comfortable and works very well). Then you've got the Arai RX-RR3 (or somesuch) that's a pure-bread race lid.. the vents are designed to work best at speeds of over 80mph.. pricey, looks cool as hell though. Your best bet right now is to make your way to a shop and try on the helmets.. both Shoie and Arai.. you'll find one you like.. Do some price checks with moto-rags and either buy mail-order or local (my shop can keep it within 10-15% of mail-order most times.. so I buy from them a lot.. they ARE my local shop.. always there for me when I need them). If I were you though, I'd focus on the Arai NR2 or the Shoie RFR/RF-800 (might even be able to find some closeout RF-700/RF-200s which are discontinued models). As for Snake and his neck injuries.. well, come out to Summit Point next year and cornerwork one day. Watch team DC-Cycles Racing, pick up some fallen riders and have a conversation about the deep gouges they just put in their new helmets. Same goes for anyone who thinks helmets are dangerous. (Yes, I believe in the freedom of choice and therefore hate the laws - bah). Brian McCoy >>> "Ram K. Srinivasan" 11/03/98 05:06PM > >3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend > gobs of money on > >it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? > Any advice on > >much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any > particulary good > >helmets? (brandnames etc?) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 08:04:18 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21934 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:04:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0CC7A20250; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:04:12 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981104080935.00fc4dd0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:09:42 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Fwd: Fw: Practical joke for this weekend... (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> ------- Forwarded Message >> [ headers removed...] >> >> >> > When John Glenn returns from space, everybody dress in Ape Suits. >> > >> > Pass it on. >> >> >> ------- End of Forwarded Message From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 08:04:16 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21932 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0C97A20250; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:04:09 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981104074724.00fa1180@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 07:52:35 -0500 To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: hi - need help :) In-Reply-To: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:06 PM 11/3/98 , Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: >1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due >to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get >a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not >being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is taught >in the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would >rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem >on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with a >plain learners permit, right?) The MD test is given on the student bikes right after the course (at least a couple years ago when I last taught there). This test is conducted by an examiner, who is probably also one of the instructors, and is open only to the students who just completed the course. To take that test, you have to take the student course (and pass it and have a learner's permit). To take the MD test yourself requires you provide the motorcycle, and prove you got it to the MVA legally - in a truck, on a trailer, or you're with someone over age 21 holding a valid motorcycle license. Go ahead and take the test on your 500 - you've got little to lose, and you'll probably do fine. (Go practice the test on weekends when the MVA is closed). If for some reason you don't make it, then take the course again. Or use your new VA address and just show them your MSF completion card - I believe that's all they require after the learner's permit to get your license. 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I knew it was too good to be true! :( :( :( Well, at least I won't have to worry about learning new sections of the home track next season.... > -----Original Message----- > From: BSR, Inc. [SMTP:bsr@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 4:38 PM > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG > Cc: 'office@XXXXXX' > Subject: Re: Summit Point repaving > > At 08:49 AM 10/28/98 -0500, Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: > >First off, I would like to extend a huge thank you to those responsible > for > >all the upgrades made over the past two seasons and the upgrades underway > >this winter. The new pavement in turns 3 through 5 was incredible. It > was > >comforting coming through that section knowing you could count on > traction. > > > >For the new pavement being added, it would be wonderful if you could > >continue on through turn 10. There are some very nasty grooves through > turn > >9, and about halfway up the hill to 10 there is a terrible > bump/disruption > >that greatly upsets the chassis on most of the big bore motorcycles. > > > >I understand that budget constraints may prevent you from continuing the > new > >pavement through turn 10; however, please make sure that they don't end > the > >pavement right at a transition point where motorcycles will still be > leaned > >over. The resulting bump would prove very dangerous to the two wheeled > >racers. > > > >Thank you for your time > >Collin T. Fagan > >CCS#210 - WERA#305 > > > > > >THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! > > > > > Collin: > > Thanks for the supportive e-mail. Unhappily, the paving, scheduled for > this > past week, was canceled due to problems at the asphalt plant. We'll be > able > to get back on some of it, such as curbing, before next season, but the > major repaving will have to wait until next September. This wait is > required because the asphalt must cure over winter to keep it from > ravelling > in sports car events in the summer's heat. > > Yours is not the only comment suggesting the advisability of paving > through > turn 10. Thus, the plan will be to repave from turn 5 past the side load > exit of turn 10. > > Our commitment is to the amateur and our focus is to making more and > better > events for the motorsports enthusiast who comes to Summit Point for his > pleasure. The tone of your e-mail is supportive which I greatly > appreciate. > > Sincerely, > > William H. Scott > President > BSR, Inc. > PO Box 190 > Summit Point, WV 25446 > 304-725-6512 > 304-728-7124 FAX > E-Mail = office@XXXXXX > URL = www.bsr-inc.com > www.bsrfirearms-training.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:20:33 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23061 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08021 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06357 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:20:29 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WVVKa02538 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:19:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <896970cb.3640628c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:19:56 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Free Subscription to Motorcyclist Magazine Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 8:34:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, jckozyn@XXXXXX writes: << http://www.sungift.com/erebunimotorcyclist >> Im sure its legitimate but there is a catch. You have to enter personal information and of course you know what that means! SPAM! JUNK MAIL! But hey its a free Motorcyclist so why not put up with Ed McMahon a little longer? Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:27:32 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23172 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:02:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:25:49 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: M/C Clothing question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline But on the right person, a g-string could be considered protective = clothing. :-D Scooter >>> "Gil M. Nissley" 11/01/98 08:13PM >>> On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, SCOTT Rush wrote: > Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website that sells = all kinds of leather goods, including pants and jackets. They had a nice = zip-up leather shirt for $129 that they said is good for when you want to = ride but don't want to wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? > The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under Shirts - = Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice pants too. JMHO,but I think I'd rather buy my protective gear from a place that=20 sells to racers;not one that makes leather roses and g-strings. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> =20 '98 FXDS-Conv =20 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:42:10 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23445 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:03:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:37:15 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: MotorLE@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline That's quite alright. I enjoy seeing those shameless promotions. :-) I = like your site BTW. Too bad everything I might be interested in is on = hold or not my size. :-( Scooter >>> 11/03/98 07:00PM >>> Hello, I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when = three new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak = up. I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at http://www.leatherexcahnge.com=20 thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:42:11 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23446 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:03:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:32:58 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Rider Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Actually, I think I have seen you. My sister lives in Manassas and when I = went out to her place a couple weeks ago, I was beside a red Seca and the = rider had on a black Shoei. I yelled out the window, yeah I was caging it = (green Subaru), and said nice bike. Later, Scooter >>> 11/03/98 06:27PM >>> Hi all! I live in the Manassas area, so if you see a bright red Seca rider with a black Shoei around there, give a wave. Chris Weaver From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:47:06 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23502 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:47:04 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA11124; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:48:46 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma010643; Wed, 4 Nov 98 09:47:37 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1W009MEJPLCR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B2.0050D2AA ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:42:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:42:36 -0500 Subject: Re: hi - need help :) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B2.0050D179.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Chris Norloff wrote: > Or use your new VA address and just show them your MSF completion card - I > believe that's all they require after the learner's permit to get your license. I just went through getting my license a couple of months ago, so I'm fresh from the experience. If you take the MSF course (and pass), they'll give you a completion card. Take this card to the VA DMV and they will waive the riding portion of the test. You will still need to take the "written" portion of the test, but that was REALLY easy. The DMV I went to (Fair Oaks Mall) had touch-screen "written" tests, which I thought was a very good idea. Taking this test is pretty quick too. (Did I just say that about the DMV?!) I did the whole license thing on my lunch hour from work. Keep in mind that if you need for some reason to take a riding test, some DMV offices, such as Fair Oaks Mall, do not offer this portion of the testing. Take a comb with you and dress nicely for the picture. ;^) Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:52:22 1998 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23605 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [470] ([192.168.13.117]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA14137 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:51:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199811041551.KAA14137@bmdo.mcri.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Newman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:50:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: I want to buy a helmet... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Fellow listers, Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? Cheers, John From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:54:10 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23615 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA04559; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <364069DA.C217E18C@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:51:06 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Rain X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <001101be0768$f51945e0$01010101@wotan> <363F787B.540E77F4@illuminet.net> <363F7D74.C804F6EA@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > > Leon Begeman wrote: > > > > On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. > > Does it help resist fogging? Just curious. Now if I could > past that darned "Lemon Fresh" smell... :( I think you can get it without the scent, in any case, you're only supposed to use it on the outside of the face shield. No, it doesn't help with anti-fogging. I use an anti-fog cloth of some kind that I bought a few years ago. It doesn't work very well. The best anti-fog thing I've found it the Fog City Fog shield, but it doesn't help with keeping glasses clear. I don't use Rain-X for making the rain shed off the helmet, it dries out the plastic and exagerates the little cracks in the faceshield. Pledge fills them in and reduces hazing. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:57:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23702 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08695 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:57:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.us.pw.com (known pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07330 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:57:41 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA16343; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:59:29 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma016127; Wed, 4 Nov 98 09:58:57 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1W00B8GK87E7@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B2.0051D850 ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:53:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:54:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County To: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B2.0051D16D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Yeah, I think it must be a Jones thing. Jones Alexandria (VA) is getting it Dec 1 also ... Channel 39. --chris To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Date: 11/04/98 10:39:29 AM GMT Subject: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Woo hoo! After considering the different satellite options in order to get Speedvision it's finally coming to Jones Cable in PG County. December 1st is supposed to be the first day... Kirk ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:58:07 1998 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23718 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA10033; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:57:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv12-46.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.174) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010012; Wed Nov 4 08:56:53 1998 Message-ID: <005001be0803$361013e0$ae5e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "Lucas, Raymond CPO" Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:55:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01BE07D9.4AA3D0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BE07D9.4AA3D0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope this is early enough to let someone take my place. I am not able = to get Saturday or Sunday off this weekend. Got the word last night, = and with as long a day as it will be, I wont be able to work, make the = class and then get back to work again. Shift work can be a bitch = sometimes. Anyway, Good luck to everyone. Ken ( A bit po'd and = dissapointed). Damm jobs, All this just to pay the bills and save up = for another bike ;).=20 HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BE07D9.4AA3D0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ERC Class: The When and = Where.
I hope this is early enough to let = someone take=20 my place.  I am not able to get Saturday or Sunday off this = weekend. =20 Got the word last night, and with as long a day as it will be, I wont be = able to=20 work, make the class and then get back to work again.  Shift work = can be a=20 bitch sometimes.  Anyway, Good luck to everyone.  Ken ( A bit = po'd and=20 dissapointed).  Damm jobs, All this just to pay the bills and save = up for=20 another bike ;). 
 
HDKnight
1996 XLH 1200
Ride=20 Safe
Inwood, WV 

     

------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BE07D9.4AA3D0A0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:00:03 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23796 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA04789; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:00:18 -0500 Message-ID: <36406B34.E8615319@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:56:52 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: > > Greetings All! > > I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. :) Just > finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. Need some advice on a > few topics: > > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due > to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get > a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not > being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is taught > in the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would > rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem > on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with a > plain learners permit, right?) > You will not be able to get a Maryland Class M endorsement without taking the skills test. Maryland doesn't recognize the completion card from the MSF course as sufficient to get out of the skills test, you must have the certificate from a Maryland MSF course to do that (and it's only valid for 6 months). > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? > Everyone was a beginner once. Just keep practicing, before you know it, someone will tell you that you're not allowed to call yourself a beginner anymore. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:06:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23964 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08805 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07588 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:04:27 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:54:25 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tis the season.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Wellllll. Let's see. My bro-in-laws father owns a Harlye shop and = someone traded in a '94 FZR 600 that he's been trying to sell. It's deep = metallic blue with a purple and yellow stripe. Vance & Hines exhaust. LP = purple windscreen. Spartan tank bag. Gorilla alarm system. AGV matching = helmet. 7000 miles. Asking $3950 or best offer. It's at my sisters house = in Manassas and in GREAT shape. Looks showroom new. I'm pretty sure = he'll let you take it out for a test ride and, since he's had it 4+ months = with only a couple people interested, I'm sure he'll negotiate. Let me = know if you're interested and I'll get you his number. Scooter >>> 11/03/98 11:28PM >>> Hey everyone, maybe you can help me out..... I'm looking to buy a new = bike, (well, new to me anyways....not necessarily showroom new...) and would be = more appreciative if you can let me know of any interesting bikes that you = might happen to hear about. I'm trying to stay under 3 grand, and not really interested in cruisers. The Grandpa-Ceptor I ride now, ('83), is around = 550 lbs. and 60 hp....I'd like a little less of the former and a little more = of the latter. Thanks for any and all possible assistance! Dress warm kids! -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:07:34 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23982 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27574; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:07:51 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0FA@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'John Newman'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:07:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Coleman Powersports in Falls Church probably has the biggest selection of various brands in stock; however, they also have the highest prices around. One of my quasi-sponsors, Fast Lane Cycles in Chantilly (703-818-8890), also carries a variety of helmets, but I've never looked to see how his prices are on helmets though...If you do go out there, please mention that I referred you, so he knows he's getting something out of helping me... The Dirt Shop (somewher in MD around the top of the beltway..help Brian) has been real good to Brian McCoy and from his earlier posts, sound like they have great prices. A good portion of my business (what little time I have left in this area) is going to start going to them... Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: John Newman [SMTP:jnewman@XXXXXX] > Subject: I want to buy a helmet... > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:21:35 1998 Return-Path: tgimer@XXXXXX Received: from cusrva.cua.edu (cusrva.cua.edu [136.242.10.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24205 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from 136.242.148.15 ([136.242.148.15]) by cua.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29119) with SMTP id <01J3RTB7LS3G90MYQB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:16 EST Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:34:16 +0000 From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: I want to buy a helmet... To: John Newman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-to: tgimer@XXXXXX Message-id: <364073F7.1D0@smart.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <199811041551.KAA14137@bmdo.mcri.com> John Newman wrote: > > Fellow listers, > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > Cheers, > > John For what it is worth: Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg, MD) has Shoei RF-800 helmets on sale for about $220. Excellent helmet, excellent price. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:21:56 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24215 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09102 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08218 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28514; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:22:43 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0FC@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: tis the season.. Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:22:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Brian McCoy came across a 90 FZR600 for $1300 yesterday.. he can give you the details... also said he saw some 86-87 VFR's for around $2k. The guy I bought my race bike from always has tons of stuff, and other than on F3's, he's usually below market value (he doesn't make a big margin) You can reach him (pager) at (703) 705-3820 best usually after 4 or so..(he has a day job ya know...) His name is Mike Orapello. If ya like something of his and get it, please tell him I sent ya...(want to make sure I get a decent deal on my next bike as well :)) He's a stright forward guy that will treat you right... Collin > >>> 11/03/98 11:28PM >>> > Hey everyone, maybe you can help me out..... I'm looking to buy a new > bike, > (well, new to me anyways....not necessarily showroom new...) and would be > more > appreciative if you can let me know of any interesting bikes that you > might > happen to hear about. > > -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:23:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24225 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09118 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from p-pms404.navsea.navy.mil (known pms404bdc.navsea.navy.mil [140.195.162.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08271 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccMail by p-pms404.navsea.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Workgroup) id 0000D98D; Wed, 4 Nov 98 10:24:25 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:20:56 -0800 Message-ID: <0000D98D.10047@p-pms404.navsea.navy.mil> From: Patton_Jim@XXXXXX (Patton_Jim) Subject: Address Change To: mdblom@XXXXXX, bmwmoa@XXXXXX, slomoe641@XXXXXX, junior@XXXXXX, louis@XXXXXX, benchri@XXXXXX, scramp@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, marinoni@XXXXXX, dewolfe@XXXXXX, mdietrich98@XXXXXX, Cindy1010@XXXXXX, shawn.downing@XXXXXX, lxddle@XXXXXX, peterod@XXXXXX, mdysart@XXXXXX, eje1@XXXXXX, keith_sherry@XXXXXX, SFarrell@XXXXXX, mfitzs1@XXXXXX, jgf1@XXXXXX, GAST@XXXXXX, kgenus@XXXXXX, gibbons@XXXXXX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Effective November 5, 1998, my work e-mail will change to PattonJW@XXXXXX If you have my old address loaded, please change it to this new version. My home e-mail remains PattonJ@XXXXXX Thanks, Jim Patton From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:25:28 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24247 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:25:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21724 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:25:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:25:18 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: I want to buy a helmet... In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0FA@MSCEX> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: > The Dirt Shop (somewher in MD around the top of the beltway..help Brian) has > been real good to Brian McCoy and from his earlier posts, sound like they > have great prices. A good portion of my business (what little time I have > left in this area) is going to start going to them... I can also vouch for the Dirt Shop. They're about a mile south of the beltway on route 1 in College Park. Look for them on the right shortly after a big hotel (there's also a custom auto wheel shop next door). They're just an accessories/service place and they don't sell bikes at all. Even if they weren't so close that I could walk there I'd still go there. Cycle Accessories Discounters in Gaithersburg is very similar and Dave will seriously discount left over inventory (e.g., he had some Shoei helmets with the flip up chin bar for $150). Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:28:37 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24365 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA13046 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:27:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981104152732.HFBY649@XXXXXX> for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:27:32 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: FW: Do you have an aftermarket exhaust system? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:25:51 -0500 Message-ID: <001401be0807$67bebfa0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Dale Wilson (Warchild) wrote: _________original_________ All- I've been ask to post this serious question to this group, as many of you have installed (or had installed for you) aftermarket exhaust systems. As many states follow the lead of California's rather stringent emissions standards, it might might a difference to you at some point in the future if you take the time now to provide a little feedback now, before legislation decides for you. Tom Austin is a Technical Advisor for the Iron Butt Association, and a member of the Motorcycle Industry Council. Responses to Tom only, please ==> > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Austin Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 10:07 AM > To: > Subject: Do you have an aftermarket exhaust system? > > As some of you know, I have been assisting the Motorcycle Industry Council > (MIC) in its negotiations with the California Air Resources Board (CARB) > regarding the future of motorcycle emissions regulations. The standards > adopted by CARB may end up affecting most bikes sold in other states as > well. A key issue in these negotiations is whether more stringent > standards will be effective if they force use of catalytic converters on > most bikes. The extent to which the catalyst-equipped exhaust systems > will be replaced with aftermarket systems is a matter of debate. CARB's > ability to prevent this practice depends on whether the replacement is > done by dealers or by individual owners. > > To give us a sense of what's happening in this regard, I would like to > hear privately from any list members who have purchased aftermarket > exhausts, regardless of whether the system was used to replace a catalytic > converter. (I'm not interested in hearing from anyone who didn't actually > purchase a new aftermarket exhaust system.) Question 1: Did a dealer who > sells new motorcycles do the installation, yes or no? Question 2: If a > new motorcycle dealer did the installation, would you still have purchased > the system and installed it yourself (or had someone else install it) if > the dealer refused to do the installation for you, yes or no? > > I will not disclose or use the names or e-mail addresses of anyone who > responds. There is no commercial purpose associated with collecting this > information, other than how it might affect CARB's decision on future > motorcycle exhaust emissions standards. I will only use the information > to prepare overall statistics on how the questions were answered, which I > will report back to the list and to MIC. > > Regards, > Tom Austin (austin@XXXXXX) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:29:54 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24475 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09260 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08523 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:29:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.21]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:26:44 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , "Kirk Roy" Cc: Subject: RE: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:32:18 -0500 Message-ID: <000601be0808$4ec75740$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <852566B2.0051D16D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal I'm crossing my fingers for Jones in Chas. Co. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Yeah, I think it must be a Jones thing. > > Jones Alexandria (VA) is getting it Dec 1 also ... Channel 39. > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:47:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24833 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09637 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09189 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:01 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WZUBa02302 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:45:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:45:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 10:37:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, ghowell@XXXXXX writes: << I'm crossing my fingers for Jones in Chas. Co. >> heheheh.......Media General has had it for awhile now. Channel 45 I believe? Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:56:13 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24941 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:56:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:28:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:28:35 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: jnewman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I want to buy a helmet... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Coleman Power Sport or Spingfield Cycle Sport. Cycle Sport usually has = better deals. Scooter >>> "John Newman" 11/04/98 04:50AM >>> Fellow listers, Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this=20 area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? Cheers, John From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:59:49 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25078 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09829 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09643 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:59:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01496; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:00:43 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA100@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'WantAZX6@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:00:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Yeah, but that is only part time right?? Shared with outdoor life channel and some other bore ass station... I think Jones has had a similar setup, but now they're going full time... > -----Original Message----- > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX [SMTP:WantAZX6@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 10:59 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County > > > heheheh.......Media General has had it for awhile now. Channel 45 I > believe? > > Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:06:18 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25217 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:06:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104160732.19910.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:07:32 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:07:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: "Gil M. Nissley" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a "reflective vest". He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. I ain't too proud to scream for help). The guard told me his regulations said "vest", not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right reflective material it wasn't a "vest". And I was on the base to teach a rider course! ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > I got stopped at the gate at > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, so > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. > > ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) > > My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:16:19 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25336 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA16602; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981104161336.HXIC649@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:13:36 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , "John Newman" Cc: Subject: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:11:55 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01be080d$d774b6a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <364073F7.1D0@smart.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > John Newman wrote: > > > > Fellow listers, > > > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > For what it is worth: Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg, MD) > has Shoei RF-800 helmets on sale for about $220. Excellent helmet, > excellent price. > You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! ;) Todd (stirring the doo-doo) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:21:24 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25451 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:21:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104162247.12992.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:22:47 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:22:47 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: hi - need help :) To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you took the course in VA, and you're moving to VA, why not just get a VA license and skip the MD license? If you get the MD license you'll just have to get a VA license when you move, why go through two sets of government BS? ---"Ram K. Srinivasan" wrote: > > > Greetings All! > > I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. :) Just > finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. Need some advice on a > few topics: > > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due > to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get > a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not > being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is taught > in the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would > rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem > on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with a > plain learners permit, right?) > > 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does anyone else here > have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't have a manual? Could some kind > soul, possibly xerox his/hers for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying > charges etc? > > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money on > it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice on > much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good > helmets? (brandnames etc?) > > > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? > > Please do a direct reply to me too! > > many thanx & look forward to hanging out with you guys. > > -Ram :) > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > Rám Srinivasan > Microsoft Corp. > W: 202-895-2109 > ramsr@XXXXXX > ---------------------------------------- > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:24:39 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25502 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:22:10 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:22:00 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:21:14 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sun -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline 3M makes plastic tape, similar in texture to black electrical, in many colors. You could probably even find it the same color as your helmet. I use black, but I also used white to put a stripe on my lid. I buy it at Pleasant's Hardware, but Lowe's or HQ, etc. probably has it too. Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:31:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25651 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:30:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10279 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10581 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 405 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:30:20 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19981104112901.00deaee0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:30:18 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: local elections Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Post has a nice site with the results from all of the elections: http://elections98.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/vaelect/ results/allva.htm but to read their front page headlines, you would think that the Democrats crushed the GOP in every election. Click on any story on the front page and it is obvious that they play up the dem wins and GOP losses, even though the GOP came out very strong! No - this isnt MC related, but that doesnt matter. MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) Putting it away for winter.... From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:34:02 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25681 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104163532.3678.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:35:32 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:35:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: hi - need help :) To: Marvin Heilesen , "Ram K. Srinivasan" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Depending on the year the GS400, 450 and 500 are a lot closer than you would think. Suzuki nailed the engine design the first time out and saw no reason to change what was damn near perfect for its intended purpose. The body styling changed from time to time but the frame, electrical system, brakes, and engine stayed pretty much the same. I have a GS400/450 book (it was printed before the 500 I think) that you can borrow, make copies of whatever you want, and return. There's not a lot that needs maintenance on that engine, it will last a lot longer than most. Ray ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: > > > Greetings All! > > Hello. > > > I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. > > :) Just finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. > > Need some advice on a few topics: > > > > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took > > was in VA (due to lack of availability this year in MD). > > Now I'm qualified in VA to go get a license. How much > > headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not being in > > VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is > > taught in the both states. I'm basically trying to > > expediate things, and would rather not have to take the > > skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem on its own, > > 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself > > with a plain learners permit, right?) > > Here I cannot help you. I have an Idaho DL and have no ideas abou the > requirements here. > > > 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does > > anyone else here have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't > > have a manual? Could some kind soul, possibly xerox his/hers > > for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying charges etc? > > I have a GS400, but not only am I sure that they are not even close to > the same, but I don't have the book for it either. But, I might be able > to help. LilBkrBabe has a URL that she gave me (and I lost) that has > all sorts of motorcycle mailing list, including this one. But, there > was one for Suzuki's that the guy had a web page with all sorts of > information. I didn't save the info, either. HEY LEE, CAN YOU HELP ME > HERE!!!! > > > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend > > gobs of money on it....but at the same time don't want to > > compromise safety? Any advice on much I could spend (so I > > don't get ripped off) and any particulary good helmets? > > (brandnames etc?) > > I better not get started here on my views on helmets except that any > helmet will just about guarantee a neck injury... > > > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners > > here? > > I am new on the list, but from what I have seen, the people do get > together. I know two of us (so far) are getting together on Veterans > Day to ride over to DE. As for being a beginner, we all were at one > time or another. Now, I think my ass has become the same shape as my > bike's seat.... > > > Please do a direct reply to me too! > > Done > > > Rám Srinivasan > > Microsoft Corp. > > Microsoft, eh? I'm sorry.... > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:34:22 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25691 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10311 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (known imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10772 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:15 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WAFYa10656 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:41 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Anyone riding? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Just curious. Are there any plans for a group ride this weekend? Or are the temps to low? ;p Robert "I don't mind riding numb" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:34:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25701 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10314 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (known imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10780 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:29 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WMZWa18748 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8c107cc8.364081ec@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 11:22:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: << You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> LOL Todd! Good one. He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:35:20 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25779 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Ray'" , "Gil M. Nissley" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I've discovered this depends on the guard at the gate. Back in 1991, I had been riding on Norfolk Naval Base in a riding suit with plenty of sewn-in reflective material. MSF Course instructor said my suit technically met regulations and I should be fine. After about six months of traversing the main gate, one guard whom I did not recognize stopped me and told me my suit didn't meet regulations because it was not orange nor was it a vest. No amount of explanation mattered. So I went out and bought an orange vest just to ride through the gate and while on base (didn't know if that guard could be patrolling as a cager). Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:08 AM To: Gil M. Nissley Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a "reflective vest". He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. I ain't too proud to scream for help). The guard told me his regulations said "vest", not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right reflective material it wasn't a "vest". And I was on the base to teach a rider course! ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > I got stopped at the gate at > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, so > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. > > ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) > > My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:35:44 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25791 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Todd Peer'" , tgimer@XXXXXX, John Newman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Where's my block delete button? Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Todd Peer [mailto:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:12 AM To: tgimer@XXXXXX; John Newman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... > John Newman wrote: > > > > Fellow listers, > > > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > For what it is worth: Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg, MD) > has Shoei RF-800 helmets on sale for about $220. Excellent helmet, > excellent price. > You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! ;) Todd (stirring the doo-doo) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:38:35 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25809 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10397 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10906 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:28 -0500 (EST) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B2.005AE76A ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:32:54 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B2.005A7622.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:32:47 -0500 Subject: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline >>There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! ;)<< That's "Head Bobbin Weenie boys" Todd. Get it right if you want to keep Squeakers spirit alive. ;-) Steve "helping Todd stir the doo doo" Beck From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:38:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25820 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10402 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (known send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10922 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104163858.13913.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:38:58 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:38:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Hardbags, they're HERE! To: dawn.jon@XXXXXX, Todd Peer , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---dawn.jon@XXXXXX wrote: > > > >Very cool! I never had saddlebags on my Shadow, but I've had 'em on my > >NiteHawk. > >Todd > > > What the heck is a "NiteHawk"???? 8^P It's a Nighthawk with a sixth-grade education, like Jethro. > > Jon > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:43:17 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25962 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:43:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104164444.22903.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:44:44 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:44:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion To: MotorLE@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My server won't open this site. Got any short and wide Aerostitch type suits? Ray ---MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when three > new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak up. > > I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay > cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at > http://www.leatherexcahnge.com > > thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. > > Colleen > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:44:53 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25973 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:44:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104164619.10572.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:46:19 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:46:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion To: MotorLE@XXXXXX, DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Forgot to ask, I've got a brand new USN leather flight jacket, size 44 or 46, that I want to trade for a brand new USAF leathter flight jacket, same size. Any ideas? ---MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when three > new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak up. > > I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay > cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at > http://www.leatherexcahnge.com > > thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. > > Colleen > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:47:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26024 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10609 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11329 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04817; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:47:56 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA103@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'WantAZX6@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:47:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Uhhh, actually, I'm pretty sure that Todd has one of those, don't ya Todd? > -----Original Message----- > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX [SMTP:WantAZX6@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:45 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... > > LOL Todd! Good one. > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > > Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:52:38 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26136 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05236; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:53:20 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA104@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Ray'" , MotorLE@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotio n Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:53:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain that's cause she has dislexic fingers just like me :) should be http://www.leatherexchange.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:52 AM > To: MotorLE@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self > promotion > > > My server won't open this site. Got any short and wide Aerostitch > type suits? > Ray > > > > ---MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: > > > http://www.leatherexcahnge.com > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:54:39 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26149 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10696 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (known relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11586 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zb6CT-00056J-00; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:54:29 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:52:01 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD95@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'NJitzul@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:52:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Temps too low!!?? No WAY!! Now, if Tom could just get over his pneumonia... ; ) It is funny to see how motorcycle parking has become much more available this week... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [SMTP:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:34 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Anyone riding? > > Just curious. Are there any plans for a group ride this weekend? Or > are the > temps to low? ;p > > Robert "I don't mind riding numb" VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:03:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26375 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA10936 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (known send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11989 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:03:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104170505.11313.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:05:05 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:05:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: test To: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Steve_Beck@XXXXXX wrote: > > test message > > I give it a C- > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:07:23 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26476 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11056 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12178 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA04602; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:06:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981104170557.IRMD649@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:05:57 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:04:15 -0500 Message-ID: <002101be0815$26f6da80$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <8c107cc8.364081ec@aol.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Hey now, Wait a minute! I have one of those! > > << You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! > Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> > > LOL Todd! Good one. > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > > Jack > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:25:41 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26829 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:25:19 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:25:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:24:26 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, sled@XXXXXX Subject: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Collin wrote: Brian/Joe/Jay, your turn to chime in...tell us how boring and uneventful your first race weekend was :) Collin Even though I didn't get to do any "real" racing since my bike crapped out at the end of school, my first impression regarding that weekend is . . . HOT DAMN! Having been on the oldest, smallest-engined and smokiest (two-strokiest) bike in the new racer's school, there was no bigger thrill in my 25-years on two-wheels than catching and passing two guys on faster bikes in turns five through eight. I wasn't dragging a knee (heeding the advice about not changing your riding style) but I was braking much later than a lot of the others and dragging pegs and boots through the corners. It's an unbelievable feeling to really start "getting it" and smoking through the section of tight turns in the back, then carrying that speed up the hill onto the back straight. Second impression on the track: "Ooh, this is gonna be an expensive habit . . ." You can look for me at Summit next season. I'll be the one in the old school (all-black) leathers, riding some vintage heap ('79 RD, old Ducati 860GT if she lets me), grinning like an idiot. In closing, DO IT. Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:28:17 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26913 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11465 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12992 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:28:10 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6VSa002539; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:03 EST To: tl1000s@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TLR sites Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Anyone know of any TLR sites that has a classifieds section where users can sell and buy stuff from eachother? A guy Iwork with has bought numerous amounts of stuff for his car this way, and Im trying to do the same with my bike. Ive already been on Chris's TLR page, and it just doesnt have what Im looking for. Any input is appreciated. Sean... 98 TLR From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:35:00 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27013 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:35:02 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 04 Nov 1998 12:34:53 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 04 Nov 1998 12:34:53 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 0002D3640903D018-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 0002D3640903D018 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <0002D3640903D018*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 04 Nov 1998 12:34:53 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: Ray , "MotorLE@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion Message-Id: <0002D3640903D018*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Try http://www.leatherexchange.com there was a typo in the URL -----Original Message----- From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 12:03 PM To: MotorLE@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion My server won't open this site. Got any short and wide Aerostitch type suits? Ray ---MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when three > new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak up. > > I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay > cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at > http://www.leatherexcahnge.com > > thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. > > Colleen > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:46:14 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27238 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A2DFE30288; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:46:07 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981104124206.00fcc3e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:42:42 -0500 To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA104@MSCEX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:53 AM 11/4/98 , Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: >that's cause she has dislexic fingers just like me :) should be >http://www.leatherexchange.com Dyslexics of the World Untie! From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:04:00 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA27563 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:02:40 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:02:39 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:01:46 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? Yeah, donate that battery to The Museum of the Improbable and buy a new one! Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:15:10 1998 Return-Path: hdknight@XXXXXX Received: from bc.mountain.net (root@XXXXXX [198.77.1.35]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27769 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer (AM4-33.Martinsburg-WV.Mountain.Net [198.77.15.182]) by bc.mountain.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA03303 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:14:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001101be081e$d89c0fe0$b60f4dc6@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Valley Cycles in Winchester has moved to new digs...... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:13:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE07F4.EAE5DCA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE07F4.EAE5DCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyway, I took advantage of the absolutely beautiful although chilly day = to ride around Winchester and up to Berkeley Springs. Anita knows my = favorite route, I like to stop at all the Bike dealers as I ride around. = Anyway for anyone who has ever been there Valley Cycles, which sells = Kawasaki,Ducati, Suzuki and Yamaha has moved from downtown Winchester = where they were located for years to a real nice modern dealership = located three miles East of Intersate 81 on Rt. 50. Heading from the DC = area( thats westbound for the geographically challenged) it is located = on a Hill on your left side ( or the South side of the highway). They = were just moving in, and the place is not set up yet, but it looks like = it will be real nice. A super improvement from the old place. One = should actually be able to walk around the bikes now. If you had ever = ben at the old place, you will know what I mean. Anyway it was nice = riding today, although its still not 40 yet out here. But it was low = 20's last night so its an improvement. Did not see anyone else today = though. On another not Winch. Indian does not have their Triumphs in = yet, although they are expecting around 10 any day now. Not sure where = they are going to put them either? =20 HDKnight Ken 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE07F4.EAE5DCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyway, I took advantage of the = absolutely=20 beautiful although chilly day to ride around Winchester and up to = Berkeley=20 Springs.  Anita knows my favorite route, I like to stop at all the = Bike=20 dealers as I ride around.  Anyway for anyone who has ever been = there Valley=20 Cycles, which sells Kawasaki,Ducati, Suzuki and Yamaha has moved from = downtown=20 Winchester where they were located for years to a real nice modern = dealership=20 located three miles East of Intersate 81 on Rt. 50.  Heading from = the DC=20 area( thats westbound for the geographically challenged) it is located = on a Hill=20 on your left side  ( or the South side of the highway).  They = were=20 just moving in, and the place is not set up yet, but it looks like it = will be=20 real nice.  A super improvement from the old place.  One = should=20 actually be able to walk around the bikes now.  If you had ever ben = at the=20 old place, you will know what I mean.  Anyway it was nice riding = today,=20 although its still not 40 yet out here.  But it was low 20's last = night so=20 its an improvement.  Did not see anyone else today though.  On = another=20 not Winch. Indian does not have their Triumphs in yet, although they are = expecting around 10 any day now.  Not sure where they are going to = put them=20 either?
 
HDKnight
Ken
1996 XLH 1200
Ride = Safe
Inwood,=20 WV
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE07F4.EAE5DCA0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:21:11 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27885 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12192 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA15535 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS8UWCB5; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST To: cfagan@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. Message-ID: <19981102.124515.8111.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0E5@mscex> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-12 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST Probably not. People won't give up. Give then a meter and they'll take a kilometer... ;-) JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:30:54 -0500 "Fagan, Collin LTJG" writes: >Man, I'm never gonna live that one down am I :) Regarding: >> (that's 40 km to you COllin) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:21:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27892 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12195 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA15538 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS8UWCDH; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST To: gixer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Message-ID: <19981102.124515.8111.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <363EAFBD.F7C72115@XXXXXX> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3,5-10 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 02:24:45 -0500 "Collin T. Fagan writes: >On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to come up >north and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two that >had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like crazy.... >Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! =8^O Yoweee!!!!!! JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:21:22 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27898 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS8UWB99; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST To: robmoody@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Law Message-ID: <19981102.124514.8111.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <002301be0729$b07b8090$01010101@wotan> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3-5,11-12,14-16 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:58:44 -0500 "Robert L Moody" writes: >I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane splitting" wherein a >motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los Angeles and they >gave tips on how to do it "safely" . Last I heard, lane splitting was only legal in California and D.C., which struck me as odd, since those are the two places I'd be least inclined to try it. I see its advantages in city traffic, especially the part about creeping up to the front of the line at a stoplight for a clean getaway, but D.C. driving is so erratic, I'm convinced I'd be annihilated trying to lane split. I'd probably get hit by a cab, dragged for three blocks, and then charged $8.50 for transportation through two zones... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:24:15 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27936 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA12926; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:24:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811041824.NAA12926@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Ray" , "Gil M. Nissley" Cc: Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:23:30 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE07F6.50B15220" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE07F6.50B15220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is funny how sporadically they enforce this requirement. I know that this requirement is under revision, and I added my comments concerning it. Here, all I had to do was show that I had a vest (during an inspection of my bike), and after that, I have never needed it. I would rather wear my leathers and be protected than to worry about a stupid orange vest. I do have reflective (Scotch brite) tape on my helmet (yes, I do have a helmet, and it is even DOT approved). It shows up better in the dark than do their orange vests. (IMHO) ---------- > Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was > we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a > "reflective vest". He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in > reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very > bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall > overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. I ain't too proud > to scream for help). The guard told me his regulations said "vest", > not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right > reflective material it wasn't a "vest". And I was on the base to > teach a rider course! > > > > > ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > > I got stopped at the gate at > > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, > so > > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. > > > > ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) > > > > My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base > > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and > > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They > > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P > > > > > > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_01BE07F6.50B15220 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It is funny how sporadically they = enforce this requirement.  I know that this requirement is under = revision, and I added my comments concerning it.

Here, all I had = to do was show that I had a vest (during an inspection of my bike), and = after that, I have never needed it.  I would rather wear my = leathers and be protected than to worry about a stupid orange vest. =  I do have reflective (Scotch brite) tape on my helmet (yes, I do = have a helmet, and it is even DOT approved).  It shows up better in = the dark than do their orange vests. (IMHO)

----------
> Something that happened to a friend = in Californy and me in Florida was
> we were stopped by USAF gate = guards because we were not wearing a
> "reflective = vest".  He was wearing a leather riding suit with built = in
> reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a = very
> bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material = (If I fall
> overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. =  I ain't too proud
> to scream for help).  The guard = told me his regulations said "vest",
> not coat, and = even though it was the right color and had the right
> reflective = material it wasn't a "vest".  And I was on the base = to
> teach a rider course!
>
>
>
> =
> ---"Gil M. Nissley" <gnissley@XXXXXX> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Nov = 1998, Ray wrote:
> > > I got stopped at the gate at
> = > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card.  I = didn't have a
> > > completion card and the guard would not = accept my instructor card,
> so
> > > I went back to = the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that
> > > = day, signed it, and went back to the same guard.
> >
> = >   ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! = ;-)
> >
> >   My fav is the one my Dad told = me.He works at Pax River Navy base
> > and they have Muh-rines = on the gates.They actually stopped him and
> > *measured* the = amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They
> > made = him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. =  :-P
> >
> >
> >
> > =
> > The official BuellBoy Genes model.
> >
> = > gnissley@XXXXXX   GATB#1121   HSB#38D =   <*>    
> >
> > '98 = FXDS-Conv
> >  
> >
> >
> > =
> >
> >
> >
>
> = _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU = YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

------=_NextPart_000_01BE07F6.50B15220-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:24:27 1998 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27956 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:24:26 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3CSVa03785 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:23:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20b9e238.36409ba1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:23:29 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >that's cause she has dislexic fingers just like me :) should be >http://www.leatherexchange.com oops. I'm too lazy to use spell check too! Colleen From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:38:57 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28267 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:38:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104183910.18412.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:39:10 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:39:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: Marvin Heilesen , "Gil M. Nissley" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Back in 1984 I was investigating a m/c accident in South Carolina for my employer. At that time the regulation was simple and made sense (so of course they had to change it), wear a helmet on base and comply with local laws off base. I found the helmets floating in the river, basically the road curved and he went strait. The Captain of the ship told me that he wanted the report to say the accident and his injuries were caused or at least contributed by the operator not wearing a helmet. I told him that the helmet had nothing to do with it, the accident was probably 1% slippery road, 1% dark because streetlights were out, and 98% because he was too drunk to ride - over twice the limit a couple hours later at the hospital, and that wearing a helmet very rarely prevents hand injuries. He ended up losing his hand plus had to pay half his medical bills and a general discharge with no disability. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > It is funny how sporadically they enforce this requirement. I know that > this requirement is under revision, and I added my comments concerning it. > > Here, all I had to do was show that I had a vest (during an inspection of > my bike), and after that, I have never needed it. I would rather wear my > leathers and be protected than to worry about a stupid orange vest. I do > have reflective (Scotch brite) tape on my helmet (yes, I do have a helmet, > and it is even DOT approved). It shows up better in the dark than do their > orange vests. (IMHO) > > ---------- > > Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was > > we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a > > "reflective vest". He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in > > reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very > > bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall > > overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. I ain't too proud > > to scream for help). The guard told me his regulations said "vest", > > not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right > > reflective material it wasn't a "vest". And I was on the base to > > teach a rider course! > > > > > > > > > > ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > > > I got stopped at the gate at > > > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > > > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, > > so > > > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > > > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. > > > > > > ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) > > > > > > My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base > > > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and > > > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They > > > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > > > > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > > > > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > DO YOU YAHOO!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

It is funny how sporadically they enforce this requirement.  I know that this requirement is under revision, and I added my comments concerning it.

Here, all I had to do was show that I had a vest (during an inspection of my bike), and after that, I have never needed it.  I would rather wear my leathers and be protected than to worry about a stupid orange vest.  I do have reflective (Scotch brite) tape on my helmet (yes, I do have a helmet, and it is even DOT approved).  It shows up better in the dark than do their orange vests. (IMHO)

----------
> Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was
> we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a
> "reflective vest".  He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in
> reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very
> bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall
> overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me.  I ain't too proud
> to scream for help).  The guard told me his regulations said "vest",
> not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right
> reflective material it wasn't a "vest".  And I was on the base to
> teach a rider course!
>
>
>
>
> ---"Gil M. Nissley" <gnissley@XXXXXX> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote:
> > > I got stopped at the gate at
> > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card.  I didn't have a
> > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card,
> so
> > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that
> > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard.
> >
> >   ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-)
> >
> >   My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base
> > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and
> > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They
> > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum.  :-P
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The official BuellBoy Genes model.
> >
> > gnissley@XXXXXX   GATB#1121   HSB#38D   <*>    
> >
> > '98 FXDS-Conv
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:40:21 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28280 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id KAA14537 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:40:07 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:40:07 -0800 Message-Id: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532B7@sw730x023.visa.com> From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:40:12 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was stopped at the gate of Henderson Hall as I didn't have the = requisite "Roadguard Vest" as required by the station commander. Otherwise, I was = clad in armored ballistic nylon, jeans, boots and gloves - not racing = quality, but pretty good. =A0 I parked my bike close to the gurad shack and was walking to the = Exchange when a young (I assume) marine rode through the gate wearing the = required vest, tennies, shorts, tank top and helmet. =A0 The guard agreed that the situation was asinine, but orders are orders. =A0 I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his actions in promoting safety, but pointing out the shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never received a response (didn't expect one, either). =A0 Michael J. =A0 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:46:05 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28424 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:46:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104184728.18747.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:47:28 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:28 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto -Reply To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How can signalling to turn cause it to die? You're supposed to use your left hand to signal, not your right. Or do like me, use both hands and keep watching the mirrors. Ray (rammed three times in a truck, twice in a car, but never on a bike and I intend to stay that way). ---JOE NAGY wrote: > > > > Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, > too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost > dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? > > Yeah, donate that battery to The Museum of the Improbable and buy a new > one! > > Joe > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:51:48 1998 Return-Path: hdknight@XXXXXX Received: from bc.mountain.net (root@XXXXXX [198.77.1.35]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28542 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer (AM4-33.Martinsburg-WV.Mountain.Net [198.77.15.182]) by bc.mountain.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA04575 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:51:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007301be0823$fcc06f60$b60f4dc6@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: RE Military bases Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:50:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01BE07FA.129314C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BE07FA.129314C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When did all this BS with getting on base with a bike start, I dont = remember ever having trouble back 17, 18 years ago? All this talk = reminds me of why I got the hell out ;) HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BE07FA.129314C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When did all this BS with getting on base with a = bike start, I=20 dont remember ever having trouble back 17, 18 years ago? All this talk = reminds=20 me of why I got the hell out ;)
HDKnight
1996 XLH 1200
Ride=20 Safe
Inwood, WV
------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BE07FA.129314C0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:52:23 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28557 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 294; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:51:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3640A25C.8DD7D79B@tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:52:12 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: tgimer@XXXXXX, John Newman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... References: <001a01be080d$d774b6a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! > > ;) > > Todd (stirring the doo-doo) Now this is the best bait that I've seen (smelled?) in a LONGGGGG time on this list. ;) Todd threw in a little bit of Squeakers, a little bit of Snake, and a little bit of John-Pierre, stirred gently, and set on simmer. This is gonna be a fun thread! :) Horkster (I think my neck breaker is broken, my neck feels fine) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:53:23 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28567 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12765 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (known send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA17105 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104185444.2905.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:54:44 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:54:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: Bikes R Us , gixer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I attempted to ride on ice once. Being from Florida, I had never heard of "black ice", and even if I have I wouldn't have believed it could happen in Mississippi. The short version of the story is I slid about a half mile (that's .8 km to you Collin), the bike slid a half mile plus one foot. I was bundled up so much crashing and sliding didn't hurt. But when that bike went that extra .308 meter, and when I grabbed the exhaust pipe on that two-stroke, now THAT hurt! The long version, with sound effects and demonstration, is very entertaining but it takes about five beers for me to be able to tell it right. ---Bikes R Us wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 02:24:45 -0500 "Collin T. Fagan writes: > >On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to come up > >north and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two > that > >had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like > crazy.... > >Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! > > =8^O Yoweee!!!!!! > > JohnDavid@Bikes R Us > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:54:36 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28577 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:54:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104185609.20220.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:56:09 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:56:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Law To: Bikes R Us , robmoody@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had training material that said it was only legal in Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. Ray ---Bikes R Us wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:58:44 -0500 "Robert L Moody" writes: > >I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane splitting" > wherein a >motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los > Angeles and they > >gave tips on how to do it "safely" . > > Last I heard, lane splitting was only legal in California and D.C., which > struck me as odd, since those are the two places I'd be least inclined to > try it. I see its advantages in city traffic, especially the part about > creeping up to the front of the line at a stoplight for a clean getaway, > but D.C. driving is so erratic, I'm convinced I'd be annihilated trying > to lane split. > > I'd probably get hit by a cab, dragged for three blocks, and then charged > $8.50 for transportation through two zones... > > JohnDavid@Bikes R Us > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:59:45 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28696 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12811 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA17357 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B2.0067CF36 ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B2.006725D4.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:50 -0500 Subject: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline >>I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his actions in promoting safety, but pointing out the shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never received a response<< Of course not. That would be an admittance of his ignorance to a subordinate. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:59:47 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28699 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:59:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104190057.9994.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:00:57 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:00:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: "Jordan, Michael" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I now carry a vest in the bottom of my tank bag (unfortunately it doesn't help when I don't have my tankbag), and now when I get told to put on a vest I stop right there, get off the bike, root through the bag like I can't find it, take off the helmet (helmet too big or hole too small), put on the vest, put on the helmet, restart the bike, check mirrors, and go. (Before I get screaming complaints I only do this in light to no traffic and only to guards who are jerks; which is almost all of them). On Navy bases in uniform I find growling menacingly at the guard almost always works. ---"Jordan, Michael" wrote: > > I was stopped at the gate of Henderson Hall as I didn't have the requisite > "Roadguard Vest" as required by the station commander. Otherwise, I was clad > in armored ballistic nylon, jeans, boots and gloves - not racing quality, > but pretty good. >   > I parked my bike close to the gurad shack and was walking to the Exchange > when a young (I assume) marine rode through the gate wearing the required > vest, tennies, shorts, tank top and helmet. >   > The guard agreed that the situation was asinine, but orders are orders. >   > I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his actions in promoting > safety, but pointing out the shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never > received a response (didn't expect one, either). >   > Michael J. >   > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:04:02 1998 Return-Path: MINEREG@XXXXXX Received: from PASHA.COM (pasha.com [207.32.107.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28776 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:00:01 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:59:48 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Law Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline RE: Law Land splitting is not legal in D.C. City police have a reputation for letting violations go, and you can certainly get away with it for a while, but a D.C. motorcycle policeman told me that splitting lanes would earn a reckless driving ticket with the accompanying hefty fines and points. I guess that leaves L.A. Sean Sullivan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last I heard, lane splitting was only legal in California and D.C., which struck me as odd, since those are the two places I'd be least inclined to try it. I see its advantages in city traffic, especially the part about creeping up to the front of the line at a stoplight for a clean getaway, but D.C. driving is so erratic, I'm convinced I'd be annihilated trying to lane split. I'd probably get hit by a cab, dragged for three blocks, and then charged $8.50 for transportation through two zones... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:07:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28857 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA12951 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA17660 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:07:42 -0500 (EST) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B2.006891DD ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:02:10 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B2.00683F8B.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:02:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Law Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had training material that said it was only legal in Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. Ray I'm pretty sure that it is illegal in DC. But the cops in DC let you get away with a lot of stuff that surounding areas will not. So you can usually do it without getting stopped. Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:10:44 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28887 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A6A8A5028E; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:10:32 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981104141201.00fe3f10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:14:12 -0500 To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Law Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19981102.124514.8111.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <002301be0729$b07b8090$01010101@wotan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:20 PM 11/4/98 , Bikes R Us wrote: >Last I heard, lane splitting was only legal in California and D.C., which >struck me as odd, since those are the two places I'd be least inclined to >try it. I see its advantages in city traffic, especially the part about >creeping up to the front of the line at a stoplight for a clean getaway, >but D.C. driving is so erratic, I'm convinced I'd be annihilated trying >to lane split. I'm not sure it's legal in DC, but then there is no law in DC. Most everyone on the roads in DC does a lot more give & take than you'll find in the surrounding areas. The streets are narrow enough that I limit my splitting to when traffic is backed up, and then I just move to the front of the line at lights, and use the "motorcycle lane" beside the parked cars in the right lane. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:13:38 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28991 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id LAA20793 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:13:24 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:13:24 -0800 Message-Id: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532C2@sw730x023.visa.com> From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles Subject: RE: RE Military bases Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:13:30 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >When did all this BS with getting on base with a bike start, I dont remember ever having trouble back 17, 18 years ago? All this talk = >reminds me of why I got the hell out ;) =A0 Lessee now... =A0 Keesler AFB, MS (back in '64) would not allow anything larger than 50cc = on base Tan Son Nhut AB, RVN didn't care - more important things happening to = keep the brass busy (1966-7) Tinker AFB, OK actively discouraged (but didn't prohibit) bikes in the = late 60s Aviano AB, Italy didn't even have provisions for licensing a motorcycle = as late as '77 (my desmos wore Italian registry) =A0 Michael J. =A0 =A0 =A0 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:18:10 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29059 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:18:08 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 04 Nov 1998 14:17:32 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 04 Nov 1998 14:17:32 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 0042B3640A84C010-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 0042B3640A84C010 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <0042B3640A84C010*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 04 Nov 1998 14:17:32 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Message-Id: <0042B3640A84C010*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> When I worked for the Navy up in NJ the rules on base were: Helmet Reflective vest Long pants Long sleeve shirt Boots Gloves MSF Card If you were missing any you had to park the bike and walk. -----Original Message----- From: Jordan, Michael [SMTP:mike@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 1:56 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military I was stopped at the gate of Henderson Hall as I didn't have the requisite "Roadguard Vest" as required by the station commander. Otherwise, I was clad in armored ballistic nylon, jeans, boots and gloves - not racing quality, but pretty good. I parked my bike close to the gurad shack and was walking to the Exchange when a young (I assume) marine rode through the gate wearing the required vest, tennies, shorts, tank top and helmet. The guard agreed that the situation was asinine, but orders are orders. I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his actions in promoting safety, but pointing out the shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never received a response (didn't expect one, either). Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:53:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29690 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:53:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14120 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19938 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:52:44 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:52:39 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:51:41 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I agree with Harry but with one exception. After years of being able to wear nothing but Arai helmets on my bean-shaped (viewed from above) noggin, I tried a Shoei RF700 and it fits perfectly. Apparently made for "Arai heads", because no other Shoei made in the last 20 years has fit. Don't know if the new RF800 fits the same as the 700. Joe Shoei RF700 Arai Signet, Supervent, etc. >>> "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." - 11/3/98 9:50 PM >>> At 09:11 PM 11/3/98 -0500, wes wrote: >My advice would be to go with a Shoei. The only caveat to that is that people seem to have either a Shoei head or an Arai head. Shoei fits better on rounder heads (viewed from above), while Arai does better on a more oval head. All my previous helmets were from Shoei. They fit very snugly against my forehead, though relativley loose around my cheeks. I used to get a red dot in the middle of my forehead after a hour or so. I tried on an Arai and it fit so much better. I'll never wear anything else (unless my head shape changes!). Others I know have had the reverse experience. Conclusion: try a bunch of brands to find one that fits well all over. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:07:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00155 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14581 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21096 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19098; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:36 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA109@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'JOE NAGY'" , hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Need help/ Helmets -Reply Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hmmm.... I'm definitely an Arai head as well, but for racing I acquired an RF-700. For me it fits like typical Shoei...if I wear it too long, my forhead gets a super dent in it... Maybe they aren't quite as round as older Shoeis but not quite as football shaped as my noodle.. > -----Original Message----- > From: JOE NAGY [SMTP:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 3:05 PM > To: hgg@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets -Reply > > I tried a Shoei RF700 and it fits perfectly. Apparently made > for "Arai heads", because no other Shoei made in the last 20 years has > fit. Don't know if the new RF800 fits the same as the 700. > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:14:28 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00406 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14812 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21761 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 122; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:13:49 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19981104151239.00d8e400@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:13:46 -0500 To: JOE NAGY , hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I didnt think my head was very big, but I had to get an XL in the Shoei RF800. Arai was comfortable, so was the AGV, but Shoei seemed the best quality for the money. At 03:51 PM 11/4/98 , JOE NAGY wrote: >I agree with Harry but with one exception. After years of being able to >wear nothing but Arai helmets on my bean-shaped (viewed from above) >noggin, I tried a Shoei RF700 and it fits perfectly. Apparently made >for "Arai heads", because no other Shoei made in the last 20 years has >fit. Don't know if the new RF800 fits the same as the 700. > >Joe >Shoei RF700 >Arai Signet, Supervent, etc. > >>>> "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." - 11/3/98 9:50 PM >>> >At 09:11 PM 11/3/98 -0500, wes wrote: >>My advice would be to go with a Shoei. > > The only caveat to that is that people seem to have either a Shoei >head >or an Arai head. Shoei fits better on rounder heads (viewed from >above), >while Arai does better on a more oval head. All my previous helmets >were >from Shoei. They fit very snugly against my forehead, though relativley >loose around my cheeks. I used to get a red dot in the middle of my >forehead after a hour or so. I tried on an Arai and it fit so much >better. > I'll never wear anything else (unless my head shape changes!). Others >I >know have had the reverse experience. > Conclusion: try a bunch of brands to find one that fits well all over. > >Harry >Bethesda, MD >'97 BMW R1100RT >http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >"The more you live, the less you die." ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) Putting it away for winter.... From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:17:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00483 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14909 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (known imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21945 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:17:32 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WYKSa04680 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:16:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1943c6d8.3640b62e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:16:46 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 12:06:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: << Hey now, Wait a minute! I have one of those! >> I rest my case. Isnt Todd the sexiest thing you have ever seen? LOL ;) Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:19:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00503 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14935 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21988 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA03704; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3640B5F9.B7C42388@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 20:15:53 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <8c107cc8.364081ec@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got one of those on order. The sales guy at Coleman tried to talk me out of buying it. . . . He was concerned about it not having Snell certification. WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > In a message dated 11/4/98 11:22:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, > todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: > > << You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> > > LOL Todd! Good one. > > Jack -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:20:20 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00596 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042020.PAA00596@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:22:58 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:15:15 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Colemans probably has the best selection in the NoVA area.. possibly even the entire Metro area.. As for purchase.. shop arround.. call several of the companies that advertise in the moto-rags.. get prices, then shop localy.. depending on your needs (price over convinience) buy local or buy mail-order.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: John Newman [mailto:jnewman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 4:51 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: I want to buy a helmet... > > > Fellow listers, > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > Cheers, > > John > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:20:27 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00598 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042020.PAA00598@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:23:54 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: The Dirt Shop Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:45:33 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) The shop I frequent is in College Park, MD. On Rt1 about .5 miles south of the beltway on the right hand side. It's a small accessory shop that's been there forever. The current owner is the origonal owner as well.. he's been in the business for something like 15 years now. Obviously he must be doing something right to keep in business for that long... Anyway, I've found that with my constant patronage, they've come to give me a discount on just about everything. From tire changes ($5~10 depending on the day), to the tires themselves.. But their marked prices are quite reasonable as well. If you go in and know what you can get the product for elsewhere, they will haggle with you to a point (as long as you're pleasent about the whole thing) but remember they're not going to be able to match the big mailorder places on price. I typically allow for 10~15% markup in price just for the convience and to support the locals. After all, when I'm changing my oil on some saturday, and need a new alumunimum crushwasher for the drainplug, I can't exactly call the mailorder place and expect to finish anytime that week.. but that's only my philosphy... everyone's will vary.. I do believe Kirk has had positive experiences with them as well... Everyone working there is great.. some racers, both road and dirt, all motorcyclists and most for dozens of years.. Worth a stop if you're in the area... and, of course.. it never hurts (me) if you happen to mention my name.. :) (Especially to Carol.. she's like a mom or something..) Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:20:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00616 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15024 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (known imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22056 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WDSIa02316 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:19:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:19:54 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Need help/ Helmets -Colemans helmets Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 3:00:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, NAGYJ@XXXXXX writes: Just came back from a lunch hour jaunt to Colemans FC. They have some decent AGV R3s on sale for 160-170. Nice helmets, made me wish I had an extra 160 to throw down. Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:20:46 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00607 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042020.PAA00607@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:29:08 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:54:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) temps are never to low.. though I think I might opt to stay in bed snuggled up to a warm, cute female.. I suppose it all depends though. Something Saturday would work best were I to ride (hrm.. 2 MDers starting a ride..) You know any good roads up there Robert? I know some ok ones from the beltway to like Urbania.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [mailto:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:34 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Anyone riding? > > > Just curious. Are there any plans for a group ride this > weekend? Or are the > temps to low? ;p > > Robert "I don't mind riding numb" VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:24:40 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00682 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:35 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA14194; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:26:16 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa13736; Wed, 4 Nov 98 15:25:07 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1W0011UZC456@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B2.006FB84A ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:20:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:22:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Law To: Ray Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B2.006FBB50.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Ray, I don't mean to split hairs, but since you are looking for accurate info .... It is not legal in California. Rather it is not illegal. The issue is that CA does not have a statute that prevents two vehicles from occupying the same lane. You can be ticketed for splitting in CA if you don't follow the "unwritten rules", such as not above certain speeds, in commuter lanes, etc. Later, chris To: Bikes R Us , robmoody@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ray Date: 11/04/98 06:56:09 PM GMT Subject: Re: Law Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had training material that said it was only legal in Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:25:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00692 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15081 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams.amsinc.com (known ams.amsinc.com [162.70.244.20]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22384 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:51 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com (ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com [162.70.34.52]) by ams.amsinc.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id PAA29316 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 852566B2.007447B1 ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:23:44 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B2.006F9251.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:46 -0500 Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I agree with everyone here...I've got an RF 700 and it always leaves a huge red spot on my forehead after like an hour or so (rather painful after 3 or 4 hours)...the bad thing about trying on helmets is that you don't have the wind pushing the thing against your forehead (like when you're riding) if you just try one on in a store...maybe go with a friend - try on the helmet, lean forward, and let your friend hold you up by applying force against the front of the helmet, or just lean against a wall... whoa, just joking here :-) BTW, my Enfield arrives this Friday (knock on wood) -Doug douglas_brashear@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:50:49 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01180 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA20305 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:50:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042050.PAA20305@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: hi - need help :) (specific to helmets) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:49:59 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE080A.C6FE43C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE080A.C6FE43C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As for Snake and his neck injuries.. well, come out to Summit Point next > year and cornerwork one day. Watch team DC-Cycles Racing, pick up some > fallen riders and have a conversation about the deep gouges they just put in > their new helmets. Same goes for anyone who thinks helmets are dangerous. > (Yes, I believe in the freedom of choice and therefore hate the laws - bah). Wow, I am getting known on the list!!!! I do like your last statement. I could not have said it any better. All my riding I did in New Hampshire, I saw about half the riders with a helmet. That was their choice. I respect their choice. But the best thing about it was that they were allowed to choose. I waved evenly at topless and helmeted bikers, as we are all the same. As a side note, most of the bikes were "out-of-state". People from MA and VT rode to NH to have the choice of how to ride. As for my neck injuries statement, I am not saying that helmets are dangerous. They have their risks that people should be made aware of. Just as like .1% of people involved in car accidents are injured more severely due to the seat belts, there is a percentage where helmets cause more damage than if one was not wearing one. I have one recommendation for people who choose helmets (other than like my half helmet). I have seen a sticker that notifies responders that if you're involved in an accident, "DO NOT TRY AND REMOVE MY HELMET". The damage occurs when someone aggravates an injury by taking off the helmet. Let the people at the hospital do the removal. Besides, there is no better way to immobilize the c-spine than to duct tape the helmet to the backboard and strap down the individual. Everything else is just the next best thing. Oh yeah, I am an EMT also..... :) Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE080A.C6FE43C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> As for Snake and his neck = injuries.. well, come out to Summit Point next
> year and = cornerwork one day.  Watch team DC-Cycles Racing, pick up = some
> fallen riders and have a conversation about the deep gouges = they just put in
> their new helmets.  Same goes for anyone = who thinks helmets are dangerous.
> (Yes, I believe in the freedom = of choice and therefore hate the laws - bah).

Wow, I am getting known on the list!!!!

I do = like your last statement.  I could not have said it any better. =  All my riding I did in New Hampshire, I saw about half the riders = with a helmet.  That was their choice.  I respect their = choice.  But the best thing about it was that they were allowed to = choose.  I waved evenly at topless and helmeted bikers, as we are = all the same.

As a side note, most of the bikes were = "out-of-state".  People from MA and VT rode to NH to have = the choice of how to ride.

As for my neck injuries statement, I = am not saying that helmets are dangerous.  They have their risks = that people should be made aware of.  Just as like .1% of people = involved in car accidents are injured more severely due to the seat = belts, there is a percentage where helmets cause more damage than if one = was not wearing one.

I have one recommendation for people who = choose helmets (other than like my half helmet).  I have seen a = sticker that notifies responders that if you're involved in an accident, = "DO NOT TRY AND REMOVE MY HELMET".  The damage occurs = when someone aggravates an injury by taking off the helmet.  Let = the people at the hospital do the removal.  Besides, there is no = better way to immobilize the c-spine than to duct tape the helmet to the = backboard and strap down the individual.  Everything else is just = the next best thing.

Oh yeah, I am an EMT also..... =    :)

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE080A.C6FE43C0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:03:15 1998 Return-Path: ewinslow@XXXXXX Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01353 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.his.com (ewinslow@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26601 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:02:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:02:58 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Winslow To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: The Dirt Shop In-Reply-To: <199811042020.PAA00598@meretrix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > Worth a stop if you're in the area... and, of course.. it never hurts (me) > if you happen to mention my name.. :) (Especially to Carol.. she's like a > mom or something..) > > Brian I'll second that. I've bought my last 2 helmets from them (great markdowns on older models) and had them do my rear tire and brake pads. Service was speedy and they noticed some things that I didn't (always nice when you're paying somebody to work on your bike). I'll continue to try to give them my business. Eric From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:06:12 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01433 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15806 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (known pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23993 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id QAA26138 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:06:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042106.QAA26138@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:04:20 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE080C.C85388A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE080C.C85388A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My bike is parked outside my office right now. It was invigorating riding to work this morning. Then again, I like cold weather. It means that ski season is right around the corner. Now if I could only get a ski rack for my bike (and a guarantee that there won't be any ice on the hiways......). I am up for a ride Saturday. My wife has Saturdays off so she can ride with me!! ---------- > Temps too low!!?? No WAY!! > Now, if Tom could just get over his pneumonia... ; ) > It is funny to see how motorcycle parking has become much more available > this week... > > - Jeannette ------=_NextPart_000_01BE080C.C85388A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My bike is parked outside my office = right now.  It was invigorating riding to work this morning. =  Then again, I like cold weather.  It means that ski season is = right around the corner.  Now if I could only get a ski rack for my = bike (and a guarantee that there won't be any ice on the = hiways......).

I am up for a ride Saturday.  My wife has = Saturdays off so she can ride with me!!

----------

> Temps too low!!??  No = WAY!!
> Now, if Tom could just get over his pneumonia...  ; = )
> It is funny to see how motorcycle parking has become much more = available
> this week...
>
> - Jeannette

------=_NextPart_000_01BE080C.C85388A0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:30:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01863 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16159 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA24997 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:45 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WQJLa07909; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4692049d.3640c75e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:06 EST To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: TLR sites Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Here's a couple to get ya started: http://www.traderonline.com/cycle/index.shtml http://www.motorcycleshopper.com/ Lung - Going to the HOG meeting, not for the beer, but rather to see if my gum is still under the stool. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:31:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01873 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16175 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA25191 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA05992 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3640C715.A9CF0647@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 21:28:53 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: MSF cards and the military X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been working on and AirForce contract for the past year, and have had an opportunity to try to get on several bases. This week was the first time I've been asked for my MSF card. It was about 40 and raining Monday morning when I entered the base. I was able to convince them that my instructor card was close enough, even though it was expired. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:50:34 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02267 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:50:32 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA22767; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:52:16 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma022345; Wed, 4 Nov 98 16:51:14 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1X00AMP3BOSY@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B2.00779ADD ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:46:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:46:16 -0500 Subject: Seneca Rocks To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B2.00779B6B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I've been looking through the archives and noticed that there are a lot of postings about Seneca Rocks rides. I just wanted to let everyone know that as a rock climber for the last five or so years, I've had a lot of occasions to hang around there. I spent almost every summer weekend there last year, so I'm pretty familiar with the drive/ride there and the amenities in town. If anyone needs information about this little 'burg or is interested in taking a ride down there, I'd be psyched to do it. Especially since I'm now riding a motorcycle. (I wasn't last year) Chris Weaver '92 Yamaha Seca II ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:05:29 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02514 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26878; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:04:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D241.193@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:16:33 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" CC: "'dc'" Subject: Re: Anyone riding? References: <199811042020.PAA00607@meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > Something Saturday would work best were I to ride (hrm.. 2 > MDers starting a ride..) > > You know any good roads up there Robert? I know some ok > ones from the beltway to like Urbania.. Keep me informed! -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:06:15 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02524 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28291 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:06:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D2AD.7DB4@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:18:21 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion References: <4.1.19981104124206.00fcc3e0@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Norloff wrote: > > Dyslexics of the World Untie! My Favorite Support Group: D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:16:06 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02707 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA06736 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:15:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D4F6.2C59@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:28:06 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military References: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532B7@sw730x023.visa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jordan, Michael wrote: > > I parked my bike close to the gurad shack and was walking Jordan: > to the Exchange when a young (I assume) marine rode through > the gate wearing the required vest, tennies, shorts, tank > top and helmet. You have to remember that I tried to join the marines, but my GT score was too high. And, I bet you couldn't find the orange vest at the Exchange, either. I have been looking for one for years, at BX's, PX's and NEX's and never found even one. I want to have one in my truck's toolbox in case I have a flat tire, etc, at night. I want to be seen in the dark as I work to correct the problem. On the bike I have lights, etc. I have never ridden in tennis shoes, and I haven't worn shorts in public in the last 25 years..... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:17:49 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02717 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:17:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08656; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:17:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D55A.3667@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:29:46 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto -Reply References: <19981104184728.18747.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > > How can signalling to turn cause it to die? You're > supposed to use your left hand to signal, not your > right. Or do like me, use both hands and keep watching > the mirrors. Cute.... Real cute...... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:21:39 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02832 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:21:04 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:20:58 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:20:11 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline How about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who used to lie awake at night and wonder if Dog really exists? >>> Marvin Heilesen - 11/4/98 5:18 PM >>> Chris Norloff wrote: > > Dyslexics of the World Untie! My Favorite Support Group: D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:23:19 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02848 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA15356 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:23:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D6AA.59B6@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:35:22 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE Military bases References: <007301be0823$fcc06f60$b60f4dc6@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken wrote: > When did all this BS with getting on base with a bike > start, I dont remember ever having trouble back 17, 18 > years ago? All this talk reminds me of why I got the > hell out ;) I have been in for 13.5 now, and it has been full of all this BS the whole time. But, I choose to ignore most of the S. Maybe that is why I am a SSG with almost 9 years in grade.... (If you need to know how to personally piss off )-5's and above, just ask. I could teach a whole full semester college course on the subject.... I have a real "funny" story concerning an AF BG....) -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:27:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02957 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA17362 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01407 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20265; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:27:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D7A8.4BC9@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:39:36 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military References: <852566B2.006725D4.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve_Beck@XXXXXX wrote: > > >>I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his > >>actions in promoting safety, but pointing out the > >>shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never received > >>a response > Of course not. That would be an admittance of his > ignorance to a subordinate. When I wrote my letter to that AF BG, I did get a response....and a transfer. I was in the right, but he was too good for an SSG (E-6) to give direction. Actually, he termed it that I was telling him where to go.... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:31:43 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03037 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24985 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:31:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D8A3.7AD0@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:43:47 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Law References: <19981104185609.20220.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > > Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had > training material that said it was only legal in > Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to > know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. There are a lot of things that are legal in Calif. But, you don't want to smoke dope there, you might get a ticket! I think a bumper sticker I saw while visiting my uncle in Portland sums it up nicely: "Don't Californicate Oregon" But, it would be nice to know the laws in DC. Not that I would ever have any reason to ride there.... (I HATE cities) -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:39:13 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03167 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA02925; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:39:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640DA62.672D@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:51:14 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military References: <19981104190057.9994.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > > I now carry a vest in the bottom of my tank bag > (unfortunately it doesn't help when I don't have > my tankbag), and now when I get told to put on a > vest I stop right there, get off the bike, root > through the bag like I can't find it, take off > the helmet (helmet too big or hole too small), > put on the vest, put on the helmet, restart the > bike, check mirrors, and go. (Before I get > screaming complaints I only do this in light to > no traffic and only to guards who are jerks; > which is almost all of them). Screaming complaints??? I LOVE IT!!! > On Navy bases in uniform I find growling menacingly > at the guard almost always works. The problem is that Navy bases either have "rent-a-cops" (only cause a problem when they are the gifted ones and can actually read), or they are "Auxillery Security Force", which means they are given two weeks training and handed a gun. I got a call one night because these "Nazi Storm Troopers" had a wild dog that they caught on a catch pole and then maced. When I got there, I was warned to "be careful". I walked up, dropped to one knee, and called to the dog. The poor girl walked up to me, layed down, and let me pet and console her. I loved making those idiots look like idiots..... But you can see the problem if you question them....you'll probably end up shot and bleeding... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:53:20 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03435 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA18241; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:53:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640DDB2.2D25@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:05:22 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Seneca Rocks References: <852566B2.00779B6B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > > I've been looking through the archives and noticed that > there are a lot of postings about Seneca Rocks rides. I'm > pretty familiar with the drive/ride there and the amenities > in town. If anyone needs information about this little 'burg > or is interested in taking a ride down there, I'd be psyched > to do it. I have no idea where or what they are, but I'm game. How's about Saturday? You feel like leading a ride? -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 18:40:06 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04316 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:40:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS9E6GXG; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:39:50 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Joke Message-ID: <19981102.153005.5271.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 9,13,23-24,34,44,46-49,51 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:39:50 EST So. This loser, broke and really down on his luck, shuffles into a bar for a beer to drown his sorrows. There's a big sign over the bar that says, "World's Toughest Man Contest - $3000 Prize." Seeing this, the loser perks up a little and as the bartender sets a cold one on a napkin in front of him, he leans forward on his bar stool and asks about the contest, "What do I have to do to win the prize money?" The bartender eyes him for a minute while he wipes the bar down, then he answers, "Well, it's a three step process to win the money. First off, see that big fellow down at the end of the bar?" The two look in the direction the bartender nods his head toward a huge construction worker, about 6'6" and near 300 lbs of rippling muscle. "That's Big Jim," the bartender continues, "Step One is you have to kick his ass." The loser glances at Big Jim once more and says, "That looks like a pretty tall order. What's Step Two?" "For Step Two, you have to go upstairs and pull an abscessed tooth from an 800 lb gorilla we got up there," says the bartender, pointing toward the ceiling. "Damn," says the loser, "I'm almost afraid to ask, but what's Step Three?" The bartender hooks his thumb toward the back of the bar and says, "Well, if you survive Big Jim and the gorilla, you have to go out back and have intercourse with a nymphomaniac named Wanda until she's satisfied." The loser slumps back on his bar stool, somewhat dejected, and says, "That seems like an awful lot of work for three grand. I guess I'll pass." He quickly drains his beer glass and leaves even more sullen than when he came in. A few weeks go by and now the loser is desperate for any way out of his financial troubles. Remembering the $3000 prize money, he rushes into the bar and shouts to the bartender, "Hey, is that contest still going on?" When the bartender nods, he asks, "What was Step One again?" The bartender points to the end of the bar. The loser nods and walks down that way, rolling up his sleeves, and taps Big Jim on the shoulder. "I'm here to kick your ass." The two of them step outside and shortly a noisy skirmish ensues. After about ten minutes, the loser staggers back into the bar. His clothing is ripped and he's bruised and bleeding in several places, but he's got Big Jim's hardhat in his hand. He tosses it to the floor and says to the bartender between ragged breaths, "What's Step Two again?" The surprised bartender says nothing, but he points upstairs. Nodding once more, the loser heads up the stairs. The sounds of near mortal combat echo throughout the bar. Several thudding impacts on the floor upstairs cause pictures to fall from the walls below and a crack forms and widens in the ceiling itself. After about twenty minutes of this, the loser stumbles down the stairs. He is even more covered with bruises and scrapes. His clothes are torn to ribbons. Both his eyes are purple and swollen. He's missing hair in a few places on his scalp. He spits out a tooth and says to the bartender through his mashed lips, "Okay. Where's that woman with the abscessed tooth?" JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ps. Sorry. I was saving this for a rainy day, but it rained yesterday and I was off... ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:20:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05216 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA18689 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA05197 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09750 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050020.TAA09750@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:17:36 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: hi - need help :) -helmet On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:09 EST, WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: >Good suggestion Collin. The emphasis should definitely be on the fact that in >this area you are REQUIRED by law to wear one. If you dont like it, good for >you, bitch and moan and complain and mumble...but you still have to wear it. You're right. I'll bitch and moan and complain and mumble. However, I vote absentee Idaho, and we don't have a helmet law (if you're over 18). :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:20:40 1998 Return-Path: snake01@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05215 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09770; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050020.TAA09770@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "Gil M. Nissley" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:21:13 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sun On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:37:09 +45722824 (EDT), Gil M. Nissley wrote: >Check the decal pages in a Dennis >Kirk catalog and you might find them. I've heard of this catalog. Do you have a source you can send me? Thanks in advance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:20:38 1998 Return-Path: snake01@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05214 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09714 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050020.TAA09714@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:14:56 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <004901be0797$e700d480$8e8eaccf@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: insurance... On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:07:28 -0600, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: >They only offer the course up at Fort Meade and Fort Belvoir....the Belvoir >class is supposedly full until after Christmas....The reason I want to take >the course on base for those who are wondering is that it is free, because >it is mandatory....or atleast it used to be???? I need the course. I need to use it to exempt me from the riding portion of the license test whenever I get back home. For all of you who wonder, Idaho was the 50th state to have a motorcycle license. My "current" license was issued in Feb 89 and was to drive truck. As military, I keep getting extensions. As soon as another one of my or my wife's relatives die, I will stop by and get a new license. Until that, my "current" one is valid. This is one of the biggest pains being military. I was never offered a motorcycle license..... BTW, I am trying out a new email program here at home. Any feedback concerning this and the next couple messages would be appreciated. I now even have a spell check! (PMMail for OS/2) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:26:50 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05289 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA13266 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:26:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <009001be085b$49103e40$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: gloves for winter Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:26:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I got a great deal on some thick winter riding gloves down at Cycle Sport the other day...... 40% off on some gloves...ONLY catch is you have to have big hands..like me...all the gloves where xl or xxl....I got a pair for $15 that where originaly priced at 40 some bucks....if your unlucky like me and have really thick mutton hands then you should be alright...... Les Katana 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:49:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05617 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA18981 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA05996 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ursulina (207-172-120-156.s156.tnt14.brd.erols.com [207.172.120.156]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23962 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00bf01be086f$60932280$9c78accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Yep, it's channel 45 with Media General. Tuesday nights are Motorcycle night from about 6 pm to 11 pm, give or take a 30 minutes time slot here or there. During the summer I recorded lots of motorcycle racing but things have quieted down now and it's mostly vintage racing shows. But do note that channel 45 airs more than just Speedvision. Also sharing that bandwidth is Outdoor Life Magazine, a live vet show, and infomercials so you have to check your local listings, as they say. - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County >In a message dated 11/4/98 10:37:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, ghowell@XXXXXX >writes: > ><< I'm crossing my fingers for Jones in Chas. Co. >> > >heheheh.......Media General has had it for awhile now. Channel 45 I believe? > >Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:59:41 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05802 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17239; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:59:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364192EA.1F8D417D@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:58:34 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Heilesen CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line References: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532B7@sw730x023.visa.com> <3640D4F6.2C59@iname.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try stopping and talking to a construction crew... Since the CG doesn't require the orange vests on our bases, I didn't have one, so I needed something to get onto Bolling for a pick-i-nick. Talked to the foreman of the crew working in DC across the street from my building and asked if they had a spare one I could buy... walked over to the truck and gave me two (one for me and the other for my office mate). Said his son was in the army, etc. etc. Not the fanciest vests in the world, but good enough to get you on a military base and to be seen better.... I generally wear mine out and about (till recently..My son's gone and hidden it somehwere and I haven't found it yet) Collin Marvin Heilesen wrote: > I want > to have one in my truck's toolbox in case I have a flat > tire, etc, at night. I want to be seen in the dark as I > work to correct the problem. On the bike I have lights, > etc. > -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 20:12:31 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06026 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06110 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:12:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <012301be0861$ae54de40$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:11:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military I saw some orange vests at the Ft. Meyer and Ft. Belvoir BX's just last week..they have them in the fishing/hiking/gym/bicycle/softball etc...sections......I have a couple myself...I was required to wear one while riding my "bicycle" on base when I was stationed in Korea..... Also when I took the MSF course back in 90' down in Va. Beach...the base legal office informed us that we were required to wear the vest and all the other mandated safety gear OFF BASE in case we have a wreck..he said that the military can forfiet our medical benefits and make us pay the bill in full...plus whatever the punishment would be for disobeying an order. Now that i've done my bit for recruitment...the gloves that I got from Cycle Sport (ref. earlier post) actually made my hands sweat on the ride home today.....anybody else want to push that person off the Wilson bridge today..... Enjoy....Les Kat 750 And, I bet you couldn't find the orange vest at the Exchange, either. I have been looking for one for years, at BX's, PX's and NEX's and never found even one. I want to have one in my truck's toolbox in case I have a flat tire, etc, at night. I want to be seen in the dark as I work to correct the problem. On the bike I have lights, etc. Snake From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 20:26:46 1998 Return-Path: snake01@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06170 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13712; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:26:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050126.UAA13712@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles" , "Leslie N. Forewright" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 20:38:51 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <009001be085b$49103e40$d1bbaccf@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: gloves for winter On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:26:14 -0600, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: >I got a great deal on some thick winter riding gloves down at Cycle Sport >the other day...... 40% off on some gloves...ONLY catch is you have to have >big hands..like me...all the gloves where xl or xxl....I got a pair for $15 >that where originaly priced at 40 some bucks....if your unlucky like me and >have really thick mutton hands then you should be alright...... Les Katana >750 > I have "fat fingers" where I need an extra large. I am also ignorant in that I haven't saved any addresses of cycle shops that have been posted here. Please let me know where they are located. And, how close are they to Wheaton or Bethesda? So far I am "stuck" with wearing mittens. I have frost bitten my fingers so many times, they get too cold even if the weather is in the 50's. Luckily it never gets cold here in the DC area. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 20:39:49 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06460 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA19525 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA07124 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ursulina (207-172-120-156.s156.tnt14.brd.erols.com [207.172.120.156]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA21360 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:39:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <010e01be0876$6a419a80$9c78accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:40:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 No, no, the coolest are the with the microphones attached! Now that's S*E*X*Y! Rrroww! ;-D - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... >In a message dated 11/4/98 11:22:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, >todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: > ><< You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> > >LOL Todd! Good one. >He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > >Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 20:45:33 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06608 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA25093; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:45:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <017201be0866$4c02f060$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Marvin Heilesen" , "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: gloves for winter Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:45:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Subject: Re: gloves for winter Cylce Sport is located in Springfield, Va. 6603 Backlick Rd. (703)451-9330...quite a drive from Bethesda..but that is what bikes are for....just hit the belt way and and go to I-95 south...not sure what exit it is...stupid yeah...i've ridden down there so many times that I dont' even pay attention to the signs anymore.....I could show you with my eyes closed, just by the feel of the bumps in the road....not recommended though.. Les Kat 750..... I have "fat fingers" where I need an extra large. I am also ignorant in that I haven't saved any addresses of cycle shops that have been posted here. Please let me know where they are located. And, how close are they to Wheaton or Bethesda? Snake From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:18:40 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07094 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA19869 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA07992 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:18:35 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WLEHa10440 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:17:08 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <7ee2bce2.36410aa4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:17:08 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: hi - need help :) -helmet Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/4/98 8:29:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, snake01@XXXXXX writes: << You're right. I'll bitch and moan and complain and mumble. However, I vote absentee Idaho, and we don't have a helmet law (if you're over 18). :) >> Too bad you dont live in Idaho, huh? Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:42:59 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07430 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA20063 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:42:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA08321 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:42:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA16936; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:42:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050242.VAA16936@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "WantAZX6@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 21:54:59 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <7ee2bce2.36410aa4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: hi - need help :) -helmet On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:17:08 EST, WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: >In a message dated 11/4/98 8:29:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, snake01@XXXXXX >writes: > ><< You're right. I'll bitch and moan and complain and mumble. ><<Too bad you dont live in Idaho, huh? In many ways. Have you ever seen pictures of the Grand Tetons? 45 miles from home. Have you ever thought of visiting Yellowstone National Park? About an hour and a half from home. Some of the most beautiful riding/fishing you could ever imagine. And you wonder why I am trying so hard to get thrown out of the Army..... We could all only be so lucky as to live in Idaho (but then it would be too crowded, and I would be complaining about all of you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:44:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07441 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA20078 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (known imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA08344 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:44:46 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3PGUa29193; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:40:19 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <2a7427e6.36411013@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:40:19 EST To: snake69@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 I'm riding up to Hagerstown Saturday. If the weather isn't too cold, I'll be on my bike... Yes, if it doesn't at least hit 60 degrees, I'll be in my Tracker! la Lee Andrese From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:48:45 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07510 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00283 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01a601be086f$1f5f8ba0$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Department of Motor Vehicles (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if you want to check out the road rules here are the places to do it....these are kinda helpful.... http://www.dmv.state.va.us/ http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ Thanx and enjoy, Les Kat 750 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Department of Motor Vehicles.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Department of Motor Vehicles.url" [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ Modified=C07B55C96E08BE018E ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:48:48 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07513 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00294 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901be086f$22515460$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Department of Motor Vehicles (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if you want to check out the road rules here are the places to do it....these are kinda helpful.... http://www.dmv.state.va.us/ http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ Thanx and enjoy, Les Kat 750 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Department of Motor Vehicles.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Department of Motor Vehicles.url" [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ Modified=C07B55C96E08BE018E ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:50:55 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07626 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA20127 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:50:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA08428 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:50:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA24757 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:50:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050250.VAA24757@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:02:57 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981104112901.00deaee0@mail.wheatintl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: local elections On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:30:18 -0500, Michael Troutman wrote: >The Post has a nice site with the results from all of the elections: > >http://elections98.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/vaelect/ >results/allva.htm > >but to read their front page headlines, you would think that the Democrats >crushed the GOP in every election. Click on any story on the front page >and it is obvious that they play up the dem wins and GOP losses, even >though the GOP came out very strong! > >No - this isnt MC related, but that doesnt matter. I have found (being a conservative), that if the liberal press endorses a candidate, it is a good reason to vote for the opposition. The newspapers tend to support those candidates who want to take away all the rights of the individual, dictate how we think, do and feel, and generally try to live life for us, assuming all responsibility. Needless to say, I vote republican (and am for freedom of choice). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 22:05:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07913 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20359 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA08716 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10203; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:05:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050305.WAA10203@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX" , "snake69@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:17:37 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <2a7427e6.36411013@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anyone riding? On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:40:19 EST, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX wrote: >I'm riding up to Hagerstown Saturday. If the weather isn't too cold, I'll be >on my bike... Yes, if it doesn't at least hit 60 degrees, I'll be in my >Tracker! la Lee, why are you riding up there? So far I have heard nothing from the rest of the group concerning riding this weekend. I am in the mood to ride. I ride to work in the morning, and with the right equipment (and my law mandated half helmet), I am fine. If there is nothing else, I would love to ride to Frederick with you. Kay is off so she'll be with me. You know where I live. So, if no one else organizes a ride on Saturday, I expect you to meet me at my house and ride together all over hell's half acre on our way to Frederick. I'll even lead. :) Let me know. Maybe someone else on the list wants to ride to Frederick, so we might get some company. Let me know..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 22:27:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08206 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20690 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA09145 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([208.220.24.174]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 195; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:26:21 -0500 Message-ID: <36411BCA.6286075D@tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:30:18 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Heilesen CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone riding? References: <199811042106.QAA26138@pop02.globecomm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > My bike is parked outside my office right now. It was invigorating > riding to work this morning. Yep, it's almost getting cold enough to remove the sportbike fairing I've got on BugSlayer and put the tall one back on. Gotta play with the tall one some more, I'm still getting loads of helmet buffeting with it. Not fun. I still love the looks I get when I carry my helmet into the office on some of the colder mornings we've been having. Folks think I'm crazy, and they leave me alone. Cool. :) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:05:19 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09683 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA07384; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:01:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:56:34 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <012301be0861$ae54de40$d1bbaccf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > I saw some orange vests at the Ft. Meyer and Ft. Belvoir BX's just last > week.. For Army types,you should also be able to get one issued by your unit supply officer._Motorcyclist_ printed a letter in their Streewise(think that's the name) section from an Army guy that also gave the NSN. > when I took the MSF course back in 90' down in Va. Beach...the base legal > office informed us that we were required to wear the vest and all the other > mandated safety gear OFF BASE in case we have a wreck..he said that the > military can forfiet our medical benefits and make us pay the bill in > full...plus whatever the punishment would be for disobeying an order. Now As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the Navy.The Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:23:37 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09894 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA07504; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:20:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:19:11 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Sun To: Marvin Heilesen cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" In-Reply-To: <199811050020.TAA09770@smtp1.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Marvin Heilesen wrote: > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:37:09 +45722824 (EDT), Gil M. Nissley > wrote: > >Check the decal pages in a Dennis > >Kirk catalog and you might find them. > I've heard of this catalog. Do you have a source you can > send me? Go to http://www.denniskirk.com/catalogmain.html and you can get a free one. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:26:50 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09908 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA07515; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:23:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:21:55 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <001a01be080d$d774b6a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Todd Peer wrote: > You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! Moot point for you Todd,you ride Rice. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:27:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA09983 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22926 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (known imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA11362 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:27:13 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WURMa10656 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:26:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <81411c3.36413707@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:26:31 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Saturday ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Well then, there seems to be an interest in a ride the Saturday. The one ride sheet in my area I have is the "Arch Run" from a couple months ago that starts in Hagerstown. It's a scenic ride with some twisties, but I'm likely to take it at a slow pace (compared to the WSDYMFG!!) because it will only be my second time on that specific route. If interested, let me know! Where's everyone coming from? We can either arrange to meet somewhere near Frederick/Urbana or, if there enough VA riders that don't know the Frederick area, I can meet them in Leesburg and rendesvous with the other Marylanders. Or whatever. I'm flexible, but I only get to check my e-mail 1 1/2 times a day, so planning is kinda hard for me to do. BTW, I'm willing to lead! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:36:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10152 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22994 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA11510 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:36:00 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WOKCa02539 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:35:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:35:21 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Everybody gave me grief at school for riding my bike on Monday. Tuesday a few people made comments. Wednesday everyone was quiet. :) Of course, I only ride for 3 miles to get to school/work, so that changes things! Riding home for lunch helps to put more than just 6 miles on the bike a day though. So far the only other bikes I've seen at school/work is an old BMW 100 something at school and a beautiful old Triumph Bonneville 750 at work, so I'm certainly not the only crazy one! =8^) Robert "What? I can't hear you through all the layers of clothing!" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black [grr... it's cold] Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:39:36 1998 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10163 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-23.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.64]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA17260 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:39:23 -0500 Message-ID: <050401be087e$6ccf9ec0$3510b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:37:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This from the Vulcan list -- upcoming International Motorcycle Shows -- ->Dec. 4-6: Long Beach Convention Center,Long Beach, CA >Dec. 11-13: San Mateo County Expo Center, San Mateo, CA >Jan. 1-3: Washington State Trade Center, Seattle, WA >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY >Jan. 29-31: IX Center, Cleveland, OH >Feb. 5-7: Rosemont Convention Center, Chicago, IL >Feb. 12-14: Minneapolis Convention Center, Minneapolis, MN >Feb. 19-21: Georgia International Convention Center, College Park, GA >Mar. 3-7: Daytona International Speedway, Daytona Beach, FL >Mar. 12-14: America's Center, St. Louis, MO > Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:53:01 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10366 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23194 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (known suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com [149.52.55.130]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA11724 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:52:56 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id AAA04591; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:55:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050555.AAA04591@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Need help/ Helmets To: hgg@XXXXXX (Harry G. Greenspun, M.D.) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:55:48 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981103215038.007eb300@pop.mindspring.com> from "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." at Nov 3, 98 09:50:38 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > At 09:11 PM 11/3/98 -0500, wes wrote: > >My advice would be to go with a Shoei. > > The only caveat to that is that people seem to have either a Shoei head > or an Arai head. Shoei fits better on rounder heads (viewed from above), > while Arai does better on a more oval head. All my previous helmets were > from Shoei. They fit very snugly against my forehead, though relativley > loose around my cheeks. I used to get a red dot in the middle of my > forehead after a hour or so. I tried on an Arai and it fit so much better. > I'll never wear anything else (unless my head shape changes!). Others I > know have had the reverse experience. > Conclusion: try a bunch of brands to find one that fits well all over. Arai has 2 types of helmets: Signet ( classis Arai ) Quantum ( roounder, Shoei like ). I used Bell, Shoei, and A- Quantum. Arai is lightest and quietest. Well, most expensive as well... > > Harry > Bethesda, MD > '97 BMW R1100RT > http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm > "The more you live, the less you die." > _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 01:39:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA11062 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA23601 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA12350 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:36:34 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:42:17 -0500 Message-ID: <005101be0887$6e0ff7e0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: Hopefully, there's something planned for Sunday. Saturday, I'm going to Bob's Open House (if I'm not stuck going to Ohio:( ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Just curious. Are there any plans for a group ride this weekend? > Or are the > temps to low? ;p From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 01:43:10 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA11152 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA23652 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA12363 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:39:56 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Marvin Heilesen" , Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:45:39 -0500 Message-ID: <005201be0887$e6583460$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01BE085D.FD822C60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <199811042106.QAA26138@pop02.globecomm.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01BE085D.FD822C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Went to Killington in May about 18 mos. ago. Dude was carrying a snowboard on some older UJM. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX My bike is parked outside my office right now. It was invigorating riding to work this morning. Then again, I like cold weather. It means that ski season is right around the corner. 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------=_NextPart_000_0053_01BE085D.FD822C60-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 01:57:25 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA11380 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:44:19 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "mobacc" , "Dc Cycles" Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: <005701be0888$834a1f40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <050401be087e$6ccf9ec0$3510b1cd@newmicronpc> Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > -----Original Message----- > From: mobacc [mailto:mobacc@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 12:38 AM > To: Dc Cycles > Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule > > > This from the Vulcan list -- upcoming International Motorcycle Shows -- > > > ->Dec. 4-6: Long Beach Convention Center,Long Beach, CA > >Dec. 11-13: San Mateo County Expo Center, San Mateo, CA > >Jan. 1-3: Washington State Trade Center, Seattle, WA > >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > >Jan. 29-31: IX Center, Cleveland, OH > >Feb. 5-7: Rosemont Convention Center, Chicago, IL > >Feb. 12-14: Minneapolis Convention Center, Minneapolis, MN > >Feb. 19-21: Georgia International Convention Center, College Park, GA > >Mar. 3-7: Daytona International Speedway, Daytona Beach, FL > >Mar. 12-14: America's Center, St. Louis, MO > > > > Bill S. / DC > 99 VN750 > Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 02:21:58 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA12467 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 02:21:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11098; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 02:21:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3641F102.1BE1DA74@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:40:02 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Howell CC: Dc Cycles Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule References: <005701be0888$834a1f40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No can do.... That's the first race weekend of the 99 race season... and after a winter without my fix, you can bet I'll be there!!! Collin George Howell wrote: > > Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 04:57:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA15334 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA25735 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA14639 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com (207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com [207.172.57.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA26123 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:57:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050957.EAA26123@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:09:21 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <36411BCA.6286075D@tidalwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anyone riding? On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:30:18 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: >I still love the looks I get when I carry my helmet into the office >on some of the colder mornings we've been having. Folks think >I'm crazy, and they leave me alone. Cool. :) I work in a small office. Everyone there knows that I am crazy. They don't think twice when i ride in on a cold morning. It's especially nice when all the young kids, who's first impression is that I am just another old fart, get to know me and see my wild side. My only question is how'd I get this damn old? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 05:23:24 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15667 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com (207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com [207.172.57.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA28540 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:23:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051023.FAA28540@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:35:30 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:56:34 +45722824 (EDT), Gil M. Nissley wrote: > For Army types,you should also be able to get one issued by your >unit supply officer._Motorcyclist_ printed a letter in their >Streewise(think that's the name) section from an Army guy that also >gave the NSN. I guess that would be me. Since I am NCOIC, US Army Element, I wear a lot of hats. Too bad we (I) don't have a unit supply. > As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the Navy.The >Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. It's a DoD policy. The only difference is the enforcement. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 05:25:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15680 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA26048 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA14974 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com (207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com [207.172.57.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA28808; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:25:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051025.FAA28808@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "NJitzul@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:37:53 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <81411c3.36413707@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Saturday ride On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:26:31 EST, NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: >Well then, there seems to be an interest in a ride the Saturday. The one ride >sheet in my area I have is the "Arch Run" from a couple months ago that starts >in Hagerstown. It's a scenic ride with some twisties, but I'm likely to take >it at a slow pace (compared to the WSDYMFG!!) because it will only be my >second time on that specific route. If interested, let me know! Where's >everyone coming from? We can either arrange to meet somewhere near >Frederick/Urbana or, if there enough VA riders that don't know the Frederick >area, I can meet them in Leesburg and rendesvous with the other Marylanders. >Or whatever. I'm flexible, but I only get to check my e-mail 1 1/2 times a >day, so planning is kinda hard for me to do. BTW, I'm willing to lead! Urbana area works for me, then we can pick up others elsewhere. What's a good meeting time? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 06:07:52 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA16246 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA26415 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (known imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA15422 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:07:47 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3OKHa29193; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:03:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:03:15 EST To: snake69@XXXXXX, "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Saturday ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 Starting in Hagerstown... Snake, are you doing that for my benefit? Where do you want to hook up and what time... I just may join you on that one! Sounds great actually!!! Yes, I'll even introduce you to the new one! Let us know! From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 07:03:37 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16891 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:03:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051203.HAA16891@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:03:19 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Ski Rack? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:00:36 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) I can help you with the ski rack.. well, I had a KZ440 with studed tires (hrm, a couple dozen 1/2" wood screws and some duct tape) and a basket to hold boots, skis and poles welded to the bike.. I used to go on 30 miles 'jaunts' up the mountain from my home in Montana on the thing to go skiing.. or to work, as the case may have been at the time.  And, yea.. at that time I did own a cage.. umm, 86 Jeep Wagoneer.   Anything can be done if you have some patience and creativity..   Brian -----Original Message----- My bike is parked outside my office right now.  It was invigorating riding to work this morning.  Then again, I like cold weather.  It means that ski season is right around the corner.  Now if I could only get a ski rack for my bike (and a guarantee that there won't be any ice on the hiways......). From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 07:14:30 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17070 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:14:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051214.HAA17070@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:14:26 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Idaho.. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:11:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) He's not kidding in any way.. Actually making me more homesick than I already was... enough to start some more on-line job searching in the Idaho/Montana/Wyoming area.. Damn, what's wrong with computer geeks living in the mountains? grrrrr Brian > -----Original Message----- > > In many ways. Have you ever seen pictures of the Grand > Tetons? 45 miles from home. > > Have you ever thought of visiting Yellowstone National > Park? About an hour and a half from home. > > Some of the most beautiful riding/fishing you could ever > imagine. And you wonder why I am trying so hard to get > thrown out of the Army..... > > > > > We could all only be so lucky as to live in Idaho (but then > it would be too crowded, and I would be complaining about > all of you. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 07:23:30 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17203 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:23:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051223.HAA17203@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:23:26 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Sat. Ride... Meeting? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:20:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Ok.. Looks like we'll be meeting somewhere up in Hagerstown... If anyone that's planning on attending happens to ride by College Park, MD.. let me know, we can hook up for the ride up there. I know some good roads to warm up the bike/tires on. Fun at 65 with a little challange, but nothing difficult to keep that speed with (my routes for when I want to just go cruise). Otherewise.. when and where in Hagerstown? Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 08:26:02 1998 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18068 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:26:01 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id VMGQa09168; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:25:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:25:09 EST To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: "'dc'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Sat. Ride... Meeting? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 I live in Annapolis... but I'm not sure if I'll ride chase that day and ride behind my friend when we get to Hagerstown or not. Anyone want to meet on 32 at the Park & Ride around 9:00 a.m. then ride to Hagerstown with another hook up there Rob said he'd be willing to lead. Rob, if you pick a place and time to meet in Hagerstown, you've got yourself a following to the "Arch Run!" I'll even send out a confirmation for everyone! Lee From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 08:45:45 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18395 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:44:42 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 05 Nov 1998 08:44:41 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 05 Nov 1998 08:44:41 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 01CF63641ABC9018-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 01CF63641ABC9018 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <01CF63641ABC9018*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 05 Nov 1998 08:44:41 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: DC Cycles Subject: The estimate is in . . . part one Message-Id: <01CF63641ABC9018*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Yesterday afternoon I call Coleman's to ask if the estimate will be ready if I come by after work and they tell me yes it will. So when I'm done in the office, I get on the metro, ride to Falls Church and walk to Colemans. When I get there at 5:15, what do I see. Them just getting started on the estimate. Then they tell me, "It probably won't be ready today, the parts guy goes home soon so he won't be able to look up the prices". I tell them it had better be ready, since the only reason I came out here was that they told me the estimate would be ready and I could come pick it up. So they say we will do our best. I pointed out some of the less obvious damage and told them I would come back at about 6:30. I went down the street for dinner and when I came back the estimate was ready. The total was only $3,500. I was totally shocked. Then I looked at the estimate. They missed more things than I could imagine. Some examples: Both upper fairing (or maybe its one piece) are damaged around the turn signal stalks...they didn't see it. The side stand is bent... they didn't see it. The gas cap is mangled... they didn't see it The left pillion foot peg assy is bent and scratched... they didn't see it The black plastic thing below the radiator in front of the headers is cracked... they didn't see it. Needless to say, I'm not at all happy with the job they did. This isn't exactly hidden damage and they should have spotted it. So, I need to call them back and get the estimate updated. In my estimation it will add another $1,000 or $1,200 the price bringing the grand total to $4,500 to $4,700. More in line with what I originally thought, but I think it is still fixable. I'll keep you folks updated. Don B. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:00:35 1998 Return-Path: cna00039@XXXXXX Received: from gold.wvnet.edu (gold.wvnet.edu [129.71.2.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18583 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from bill (129.71.51.41) by gold.wvnet.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.4C455D80@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 9:04:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be08c4$a6ab29c0$29334781@bill> Reply-To: "Bill Sowers" From: "Bill Sowers" To: Subject: Digest mode Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:59:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE089A.A5713C40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE089A.A5713C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would you please change my subscription to a "digest" mode. 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE089A.A5713C40-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:03:46 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18601 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:03:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051403.JAA18601@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:03:37 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: DC Cycles Subject: RE: The estimate is in . . . part one Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:00:51 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Damn, even the one thing we all said they could do.. they F'd up.. can't those guys get ANYTHING right? Tell me Don, did it look like everyone's mommy dressed them for work that day? Did you happen to see a grade-school style coat rack with a bunch of Barney and Rugrats lunch boxes laying around? Seesh, I'm glad I have a shop that's competent, quick and friendly.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > The total was only $3,500. I was totally shocked. > Then I looked > at the estimate. They missed more things than I could imagine. > > Some examples: > Both upper fairing (or maybe its one piece) are damaged > around the turn > signal stalks...they didn't see it. > The side stand is bent... they didn't see it. > The gas cap is mangled... they didn't see it > The left pillion foot peg assy is bent and scratched... they > didn't see > it > The black plastic thing below the radiator in front of the > headers is > cracked... they didn't see it. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:12:20 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18753 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:12:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105141352.7243.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:13:52 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:13:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: "Gil M. Nissley" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The NSN for the vest is 8415-00-177-4974. In case you feel lucky, the NSN for a Chevy Blazer is 2320-01-123-6827 or 2320-01-123-2671 (I think its different NSN for 2 or 4 WD). While you're at it, the NSN for a very good Armor-All clone is 8030-01-087-3589 for the gallon. For Todd I have 4 NSNs for Hunter cieling fans. Sorry, I don't have the NSN for potatos but they have them. Hurlburt Field and Eglin AFB are practically next door to each other but part of different commands. One CO requires vests and shoes (you could be naked except for vest and shoes) on or off base. The other requires long sleeves on or off base but no vest. USCG has prosecuted some people for being in an accident without all required safety equipment, but as far as I know most people beat it unless the injury was related to the gear. I have also seen people go to Captains Mast (Article 15) for not wearing the required gear. There does not seem to be a clear policy on enforcement. ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > > I saw some orange vests at the Ft. Meyer and Ft. Belvoir BX's just last > > week.. > > For Army types,you should also be able to get one issued by your > unit supply officer._Motorcyclist_ printed a letter in their > Streewise(think that's the name) section from an Army guy that also > gave the NSN. > > > when I took the MSF course back in 90' down in Va. Beach...the base legal > > office informed us that we were required to wear the vest and all the other > > mandated safety gear OFF BASE in case we have a wreck..he said that the > > military can forfiet our medical benefits and make us pay the bill in > > full...plus whatever the punishment would be for disobeying an order. Now > > As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the Navy.The > Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:14:19 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18765 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc1-s18.wizard.net (tc1-s18.wizard.net [206.161.15.48]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16839; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:14:01 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: "George Howell" Cc: "mobacc" , "Dc Cycles" Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <364db20b.308470441@smtp.wizard.net> References: <005701be0888$834a1f40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> In-Reply-To: <005701be0888$834a1f40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" wrote: >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I assume would be the 16th: >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) Drop me a line if you're interested! Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:24:42 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18909 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:24:20 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:24:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:23:08 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake01@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sun -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Call D. Kirk at 800-328-9280 and they'll send you any/all of their catalogs: street, dirt, Harley, snowmo. Get the snow catalog if you ride in what passes for "cold" weather here. Joe ex of the Land of 10,000 (soon to be frozen) Lakes and one former pro wrasslin Governor-elect. >>> "Marvin Heilesen" - 11/4/98 7:21 PM >>> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:37:09 +45722824 (EDT), Gil M. Nissley wrote: >Check the decal pages in a Dennis >Kirk catalog and you might find them. I've heard of this catalog. Do you have a source you can send me? Thanks in advance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:25:05 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18922 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:25:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105142632.13613.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:26:32 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:26:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Law To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Leave it to those Californyans to invent a new category. While "legal" and "not legal" are good enough for the rest of us, they have to add "not illegal". ---christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > > Ray, I don't mean to split hairs, but since you are looking for accurate > info .... > > It is not legal in California. Rather it is not illegal. The issue is > that CA does not have a statute that prevents two vehicles from occupying > the same lane. > > You can be ticketed for splitting in CA if you don't follow the "unwritten > rules", such as not above certain speeds, in commuter lanes, etc. > > Later, > chris > > To: Bikes R Us , robmoody@XXXXXX > cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > From: Ray > Date: 11/04/98 06:56:09 PM GMT > Subject: Re: Law > > > > > Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had training material > that said it was only legal in Californy. If it's legal in DC it > would be nice to know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. > Ray > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:28:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18997 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28307 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18157 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA01541; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:27:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105142710.PQOR649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:27:10 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Leon Begeman" , Cc: Subject: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:25:27 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3640B5F9.B7C42388@illuminet.net> Importance: Normal Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet with a flip up chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a chin bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for different style helmets? Todd Leon Begeman wrote: > I got one of those on order. The sales guy at Coleman tried to talk me > out of buying it. . . . He was concerned about it not having Snell > certification. > > WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now > THATS sexy) > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:31:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19038 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28361 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (known relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18313 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zbQR8-0007SA-00; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:30:58 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADDAE@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'NJitzul@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:25:16 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I know what you mean. I showed up to class last night and the first ten minutes of class were devoted to discussing why/how I ride in when it's cold. LOL - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [SMTP:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 12:35 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Anyone riding? > > Everybody gave me grief at school for riding my bike on Monday. > Tuesday a few > people made comments. Wednesday everyone was quiet. :) Of course, I > only ride > for 3 miles to get to school/work, so that changes things! Riding home > for > lunch helps to put more than just 6 miles on the bike a day though. So > far the > only other bikes I've seen at school/work is an old BMW 100 something > at > school and a beautiful old Triumph Bonneville 750 at work, so I'm > certainly > not the only crazy one! =8^) > > Robert "What? I can't hear you through all the layers of clothing!" > VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black [grr... it's cold] Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:36:42 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19146 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11936; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:33:58 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA111@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Marvin Heilesen'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:33:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Ahhhhh, and people make fun of the CG for being Department of Transportation!!!! he he he.... There are a few commands that try to get you to wear a vest, but they are few and far between... You do have to have an MSF card to get a sticker on the bike though. However, all you have to do is flash a mil id and they'll let you on withou the sticker!! I just had Pen go in and get the sticker for the gsxr (which never got mounted...) cause she had an MSF card...I've never taken it (oops, I wasn't supposed to tell that)... The other good thing about being DOT, was when the budget stuff was all in a turmoil and DOD folks weren't sure if they were going to be getting paychecks or not...Our budget was already approved..no worries about if the checks would come.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marvin Heilesen [SMTP:snake69@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 8:39 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military > > > As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the Navy.The > >Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. > > It's a DoD policy. The only difference is the > enforcement. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:40:25 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19160 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:40:19 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA00098; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:04 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma029862; Thu, 5 Nov 98 09:41:04 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00GO6E2MXI@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.00503626 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:36:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:35:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Seneca Rocks To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.00503735.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Who, me? I just started riding a couple of weeks ago and have not even gone on a single group trip yet. Um... I think I'll pass for the time being. I would, however, be interested if someone else is leading. BTW, Seneca Rocks is a small town (intersection, really) in the panhandle of West Virginia. There's a large, impressive rock formation that towers over the little town. It's somewhat of a Mecca for rock climbers from the DC, VA, MD and PA areas, and you can watch people climb the 400-600 fin of rock. It's a scenic ride/drive to get there, also. The way to get there is to travel I-66 west to I-81 (or other alternate smaller roads). Take I-81 south, then take your second (?) exit onto route 55. Route 55 winds through three large ridgelines and several small towns on the way to Seneca Rocks. >From DC it takes about two and a half hours to get there (plus stops). A good round trip would go south from Seneca Rocks through Franklin, WV, then east to meet back up with I-81 further south. From there, you could take any number of small roads through Virginia to get back, I suppose, or take I-81 to I-66 east. Marvin Heilesen wrote: > I have no idea where or what they are, but I'm game. How's > about Saturday? You feel like leading a ride? Regards, Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:41:56 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19170 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:41:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105144330.23077.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:43:30 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:43:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Law To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used to hate all cities until I went to Tokyo for a week. Now I hate all cities except for one. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > Ray wrote: > > > > Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had > > training material that said it was only legal in > > Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to > > know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. > > There are a lot of things that are legal in Calif. But, > you don't want to smoke dope there, you might get a ticket! > > I think a bumper sticker I saw while visiting my uncle in Portland sums > it up nicely: > > "Don't Californicate Oregon" > > But, it would be nice to know the laws in DC. Not that > I would ever have any reason to ride there.... (I HATE > cities) > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:42:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19246 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28547 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18593 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:42:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:42:26 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX, snake01%erols@XXXXXX, snake01@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Remember guys, quite a few people are taking the ERC class this weekend. = That's why there aren't too many rides going on. Scooter >>> "Marvin Heilesen" 11/04/98 10:17PM >>> On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:40:19 EST, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX wrote: >I'm riding up to Hagerstown Saturday. If the weather isn't too cold, = I'll be >on my bike... Yes, if it doesn't at least hit 60 degrees, I'll be in my >Tracker! la Lee, why are you riding up there? So far I have heard nothing from the rest of the group concerning riding this weekend. I am in the mood to ride. I ride to work in the morning, and with the right equipment (and my law mandated half helmet), I am fine. If there is nothing else, I would love to ride to Frederick with you. Kay is off so she'll be with me. You know where I live. So, if no one else organizes a ride on Saturday, I expect you to meet me at my house and ride together all over hell's half acre on our way to Frederick. I'll even lead.=20 :) Let me know. Maybe someone else on the list wants to ride to Frederick, so we might get some company. Let me know..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:47:01 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19325 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:46:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105144827.25102.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:48:27 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:48:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You mean on those acid trips where I thought I was talking to God I was talking to his dog? (won't you Yankees be surprised when you find out Heaven looks like Graceland!) ---JOE NAGY wrote: > > How about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who used to lie awake at night > and wonder if Dog really exists? > > >>> Marvin Heilesen - 11/4/98 5:18 PM >>> > Chris Norloff wrote: > > > > Dyslexics of the World Untie! > > My Favorite Support Group: > > D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:51:44 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19402 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:51:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051451.JAA19402@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:51:34 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Snell ratings.. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:48:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) My understanding of the Snell rateing is that Snell rates helmets for 'race use'. I.E. - they don't look at low speed impacts, but the other end.. high speed crashes and the effects they'll have on the helmet. Typically Snell helmets have a 'harder' feel as they have more firm foam for impact absorbtion. Where-as DOT has a softer material. The physics people will better be able to describe why something that's a bit denser can aid in more protection at higher impacts (something with your head moving less overall distance within the helmet there-by reducing the possibilty of concussion). I believe that all SNELL lids automatically are DOT rated as well.. (as in DOT doesn't test something that Snell already tested.) But I may be wrong about that.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:57:28 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19490 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id ACD31B90520; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:57:23 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105094523.00fc44e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:45:51 -0500 To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Law In-Reply-To: <3640D8A3.7AD0@iname.com> References: <19981104185609.20220.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:43 PM 11/4/98 , Marvin Heilesen wrote: >But, it would be nice to know the laws in DC. Not that >I would ever have any reason to ride there.... (I HATE >cities) Cities are just another kind of wilderness. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:57:40 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19499 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id ACD41B90520; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:57:24 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105094819.00fc65e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:48:39 -0500 To: "Marvin Heilesen" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Sun In-Reply-To: <199811050020.TAA09770@smtp1.erols.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:21 PM 11/4/98 , Marvin Heilesen wrote: > >>Check the decal pages in a Dennis >>Kirk catalog and you might find them. > >I've heard of this catalog. Do you have a source you can >send me? http://www.denniskirk.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:59:03 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19509 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13581; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:59:59 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA114@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Seneca Rocks Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:59:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Oh my goodness Chris....Do you think you could have given them a more boring route down to the rocks!!???!! he he he How bout 647 out of Marshal to Flint Hill, Left at the end of the road, Right turn at first light (can't remember the raod name, but it's only about a block after you turned off of 647) at the Y, follow road to the right (pavement is reddish), all the way into Washington, VA, left at 4 way intersection, right onto 211 west over both mountain ranges, then for speed sake, jump on 81 south for about 15-20 miles and hit 33 west through the forest and over the mountains!! much more motorcycle friendly route...very chilly this time of year though... CT From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:00:04 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19542 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28750 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (known send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19245 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:59:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105150137.28903.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:01:37 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:01:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... To: Ursulina Viteri , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Ursulina Viteri wrote: > > No, no, the coolest are the with the microphones attached! Now that's > S*E*X*Y! Rrroww! ;-D > > - - Ursulina You're a very sick girl. > > -----Original Message----- > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 8:49 AM > Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... > > > >In a message dated 11/4/98 11:22:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: > > > ><< You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how > are > > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> > > > >LOL Todd! Good one. > >He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > > > >Jack > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:02:48 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19589 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:02:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105150414.4500.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:04:14 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:04:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: George Howell , mobacc , Dc Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Trying to get a group together? I might be interested if it doesn't cost too much. ---George Howell wrote: > > Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? > > ---------------------------------------- > -George Howell > ghowell@XXXXXX > georgehowell@XXXXXX > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mobacc [mailto:mobacc@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 12:38 AM > > To: Dc Cycles > > Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule > > > > > > This from the Vulcan list -- upcoming International Motorcycle Shows -- > > > > > > ->Dec. 4-6: Long Beach Convention Center,Long Beach, CA > > >Dec. 11-13: San Mateo County Expo Center, San Mateo, CA > > >Jan. 1-3: Washington State Trade Center, Seattle, WA > > >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > >Jan. 29-31: IX Center, Cleveland, OH > > >Feb. 5-7: Rosemont Convention Center, Chicago, IL > > >Feb. 12-14: Minneapolis Convention Center, Minneapolis, MN > > >Feb. 19-21: Georgia International Convention Center, College Park, GA > > >Mar. 3-7: Daytona International Speedway, Daytona Beach, FL > > >Mar. 12-14: America's Center, St. Louis, MO > > > > > > > Bill S. / DC > > 99 VN750 > > Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:05:31 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19679 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:05:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105150706.6503.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:07:06 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Ski Rack? To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I saw some boogie board and surf board racks on bikes that might work. ---"McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > > I can help you with the ski rack.. well, I had a KZ440 with studed tires > (hrm, a couple dozen 1/2" wood screws and some duct tape) and a basket to > hold boots, skis and poles welded to the bike.. I used to go on 30 miles > 'jaunts' up the mountain from my home in Montana on the thing to go skiing.. > or to work, as the case may have been at the time.  And, yea.. at that time > I did own a cage.. umm, 86 Jeep Wagoneer. >   > Anything can be done if you have some patience and creativity.. >   > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > > > > My bike is parked outside my office right now.  It was invigorating riding > to work this morning.  Then again, I like cold weather.  It means that ski > season is right around the corner.  Now if I could only get a ski rack for > my bike (and a guarantee that there won't be any ice on the hiways......). > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:11:59 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19701 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:11:59 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:11:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:08:35 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Yup. And as you learned on the "Homer's Chili Trip" episode of the Simpson's, the Dog sounds just like Johhny Cash. Which only makes sense, since I know that The Man In Black is a deity of some sort. FYI, I don't consider myself a Yankee. I'm just a simple, scruffy, backasswards northwoods jackpine savage. Actually hoping heaven looks like Jay Leno's garage, Joe >>> Ray - 11/5/98 9:48 AM >>> You mean on those acid trips where I thought I was talking to God I was talking to his dog? (won't you Yankees be surprised when you find out Heaven looks like Graceland!) ---JOE NAGY wrote: > > How about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who used to lie awake at night > and wonder if Dog really exists? > > >>> Marvin Heilesen - 11/4/98 5:18 PM >>> > Chris Norloff wrote: > > > > Dyslexics of the World Untie! > > My Favorite Support Group: > > D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:12:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19777 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29007 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19649 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-06.dial.nova.org (ra1-06.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.166]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA10981 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:12:29 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:18:47 GMT Message-ID: <3642c171.100027664@beta.nova.org> References: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> In-Reply-To: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:25:27 -0500, "Todd Peer" wrote: >Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a >Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet with a = flip up >chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a = chin >bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for = different >style helmets? How about checking out www.smf.org and see what Snell says. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:13:43 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19787 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0A21F80520; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:13:38 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105101536.00fd4c40@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:17:37 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Law In-Reply-To: <19981105142632.13613.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:26 AM 11/5/98 , Ray wrote: >Leave it to those Californyans to invent a new category. While >"legal" and "not legal" are good enough for the rest of us, they have >to add "not illegal". It depends a lot on whether the law tells you what you can do or what you can't do. In the US, it's generally allowable to do anything that isn't illegal. That's good. In Germany, I hear, many things are expressly not allowed unless a law allows them. No thanks. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:14:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19811 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29016 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19677 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:13:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA31902; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:13:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3641C004.BF2A5F56@illuminet.net> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:11:00 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: WantAZX6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They don't have Snell ratings because the manufacturers haven't submitted them for testing. The reason I saw (I think it was on the LDRIders list) was that they can sell all of them they can make without the test, so why spend the money to get the testing done. Leonn. Todd Peer wrote: > > Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a > Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet with a flip up > chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a chin > bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for different > style helmets? > > Todd > > Leon Begeman wrote: > > I got one of those on order. The sales guy at Coleman tried to talk me > > out of buying it. . . . He was concerned about it not having Snell > > certification. > > > > WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now > > THATS sexy) > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:17:02 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19887 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:16:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105151819.14563.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:18:19 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, George Howell Cc: mobacc , Dc Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" > wrote: > > >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? > > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > assume would be the 16th: > > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) > > Drop me a line if you're interested! > Anita > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:18:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19897 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29058 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (known uhura.concentric.net [206.173.119.93]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19833 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mariner.cris.com (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/08/04 5.11)) id KAA17077; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:26 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from localhost by mariner.cris.com (8.8.5) id KAA13785; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:25 -0500 (EST) From: TURNIP To: NJitzul@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saturday ride In-Reply-To: <81411c3.36413707@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would be very interested in going on a ride this Saturday particularly if we can meet in Leesburg. What does WSDYMFG stand for? I figure it has something to do with "double yellow mo fo" but I haven't figured out the rest. Thanks Hugh A. Caldwell From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:18:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19900 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29065 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19837 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 393 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:08 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19981105101041.01be3e00@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:18:05 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: ISO : Accountant motorcyclist for Telecom Company (and 3 Jokes) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm going to shamelessly try to fill a (soon to be) open position here at my company through this email forum. I did manage to relate it to motorcycles - the accountant that is leaving was a motorcyclist and a good friend of mine. The position is officially 'Director of Finance' and is basically the comptroller of our mid-sized telecommunications company. Dont let that threaten you though, she was 25 and didnt have her CPA yet, so anyone can apply. The company is Wheat International ( http://www.wheatintl.com ) for which I am the webmaster. You will not find a job description on the site, since she just put the resignation in today. Pay and bennies are great, so please pass the offer along. Office is 3 story building in Reston just off the toll road and Sunrise Valley. If interested, email gcitizen@XXXXXX or fax your amazing resume to 703-262-9130. Thanks :-) BTW - If you made it this far into the email, you deserve a reward.: 3 Jokes ======= A man is driving down a deserted stretch of highway, when he notices a sign out of the corner of his eye. It reads: SISTERS OF MERCY HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION - 10 MILES. He thinks it was just a figment of his imagination and drives on without a second thought. Soon, he sees another sign which says: SISTERS OF MERCY HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION - 5 MILES and realises that these signs are for real. When he drives past a third sign saying: SISTERS OF MERCY HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION NEXT RIGHT his curiosity gets the best of him and he pulls into the drive. On the far side of the parking lot is a sombre stone building with a small sign next to the door reading: SISTERS OF MERCY. He climbs the steps and rings the bell. The door is answered by a nun in a long black habit who asks, "What may we do for you, my son?" He answers, "I saw your signs along the highway, and was interested in possibly doing business." "Very well, my son. Please follow me." He is led through many winding passages and is soon quite disoriented. The nun stops at a closed door, and tells the man, "Please knock on this door". He does as he is told and this door is answered by another nun in a long habit and holding a tin cup. This nun instructs, "Please place $50 in the cup, then go through the large wooden door at the end of this hallway." He gets $50 out of his wallet and places it in the second nun's cup. He trots eagerly down the hall and slips through the door, pulling it shut behind him. As the door locks behind him, he finds himself back in the parking lot, facing another small sign: GO IN PEACE, YOU HAVE JUST BEEN SCREWED BY THE SISTERS OF MERCY. ===================================== If you throw a cat out a car window, does it become kitty litter? If corn oil comes from corn, where does baby oil come from? When a cow laughs, does milk come out its nose? Why do they put Braille on the number pads of drive-through ATM's? How did a fool and his money get together in the first place? If nothing sticks to Teflon, how do they stick Teflon on the pan? If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them? What's another word for thesaurus? Why do they sterilize the needles for lethal injections? What do they use to ship Styrofoam? Why is abbreviation such a long word? Why is there an expiration date on my sour cream container? How do you know when it's time to tune your bagpipes? Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny? When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? Does fuzzy logic tickle? Do they have reserved parking for non-handicapped people at the Special Olympics? Why do they call it a TV set when you have only one? What was the best thing before sliced bread? Why do you need a driver's license to buy liquor when you can't drink and drive? Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii? Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes, why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance? Why is it that when men are driving and looking for an address, they turn down the volume on the radio? If a book about failures doesn't sell, is it a success? What do you do if an endangered animal eats an endangered plant? Is it possible to be totally partial? Can you be a closet claustrophobic? If a turtle doesn't have a shell, is he homeless or naked? Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds? Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes? Why are cigarettes sold in gas stations when smoking is prohibited there? Do you need a silencer if you are going to shoot a mime? How does the guy who drives the snowplow get to work in the mornings? If 7-11 is open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, why are there locks on the ors? If you're in a vehicle going the speed of light, what happens when you turn on the headlights? You know how most packages say "Open here". What is the protocol if the package says, "Open somewhere else"? Why is it that when you transport something by car, it's called a shipment, but when you transport something by ship, it's called cargo? =============================================== Stutter Solution A guy who has a stuttering problem goes in to his doctor. . ."Ex-ex-ex-cu-cu-se m-m-me d-doc. but but I I have th-th-this st-st-stuttering problem and I I I was wo-wondering if you c-c-c-could help m-m-m-me." "Well take off your clothes and get into this gown and let me check you over." The guy get into the gown and the doctor begins his check-up. The doctor, quite suprised, says, "I see what your problem is, you penis is so large that it's pulling your vocal chords. "W-w-w-well, c-c-can you h-h-hlp m-m-me?" "Sure I can, but we'll need to cut off about eight inches." "I-I-I-I can't t-t-t-take this an-any more, do it" Six months later the guy goes back to the doctor. "Well doc, I must say that the operation was a great success, but my sex life really sucks and I would like my operation reversed. Please put back on what you took off." The doctor replies, "F-f-f-f-fuck Off!" ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) Putting it away for winter.... From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:21:34 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20000 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:21:32 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA20127; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:23:10 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa19927; Thu, 5 Nov 98 10:22:56 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00MGIG0JYH@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.00540DE0 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:18:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:17:55 -0500 Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.00540F97.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last Jan/Feb. Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:23:21 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20018 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23990; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:23:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051523.KAA23990@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Ray Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:22:38 -0500 Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19981105151819.14563.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 7:18, Ray wrote: > How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? Last time I checked, the train was over $100 round trip (per person). Bus is cheaper - but I have only ridden the DC-NY bus ONE time, and that was 15-16 years ago... one time was definitely enough!!! :-) I figure a group in a van has got to be cheaper than the train, and it's not a bad way to travel! I've driven a 15 passenger van before, and other than being loooong, it's okay. Or, with a smaller group a minivan or regular size van. I'll check some prices. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:26:01 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20039 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:25:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105152724.18558.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:27:24 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:27:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Van seems like the way to go. ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > On 5 Nov 98, at 7:18, Ray wrote: > > > How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? > > Last time I checked, the train was over $100 round trip (per > person). Bus is cheaper - but I have only ridden the DC-NY bus > ONE time, and that was 15-16 years ago... one time was definitely > enough!!! :-) > > I figure a group in a van has got to be cheaper than the train, and > it's not a bad way to travel! I've driven a 15 passenger van before, > and other than being loooong, it's okay. Or, with a smaller group a > minivan or regular size van. I'll check some prices. > > Anita > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:26:45 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20061 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:26:41 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA22477; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:28:25 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa22239; Thu, 5 Nov 98 10:27:53 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00NLTG8R08@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.00548191 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:23:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:23:39 -0500 Subject: Re: local elections To: Marvin Heilesen Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.00546979.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL and I told myself I was gonna stay out of this one ... damn! Snake aka Marvin Heilesen wrote: >I have found (being a conservative), that if the liberal >press endorses a candidate, it is a good reason to vote for t>he opposition. So you are saying you don't make up your own mind? >The newspapers tend to support those candidates who want to >take away all the rights of the individual, dictate how we >think, do and feel, and generally try to live life for us, >assuming all responsibility. I do not believe the media can be that organized. You are giving them waaay too much credit. Also aAre you aware that there is "right-winged" media out there? Ever heard of the American Spectator, a fat guy named Limbaugh, the Christian Science Monitor, Washington Times ... etc. etc. etc. >Needless to say, I vote republican (and am for freedom of >choice). No, you stated that your "choice" is the opposite of the media's. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Snake >aka Marvin Heilesen >Team OS/2 --chris ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:28:54 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20143 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 327; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:27:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3641C42E.3CBD95FC@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:28:46 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray CC: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply References: <19981105144827.25102.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > (won't you Yankees be surprised when you find out Heaven looks like > Graceland!) Uhhm, sign me up for Hell, please! :) Thank you, thankyouverymuch... Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:30:34 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20184 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:30:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105153210.17212.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:32:10 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:32:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply To: Dale Horstman Cc: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't you remember, DC IS hell. ---Dale Horstman wrote: > > Ray wrote: > > > (won't you Yankees be surprised when you find out Heaven looks like > > Graceland!) > > Uhhm, sign me up for Hell, please! :) > Thank you, thankyouverymuch... > > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:35:28 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20265 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:36:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:36:45 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: ghowell@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mobacc@XXXXXX Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm up for a trip to NY. Van or train is fine with me. Scooter >>> Ray 11/05/98 10:18AM >>> How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? =20 ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" > wrote: >=20 > >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? >=20 > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > assume would be the 16th: >=20 > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY >=20 > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) >=20 > Drop me a line if you're interested! > Anita >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com=20 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:37:25 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20283 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:37:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:38:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:38:27 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, NAGYJ@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shamelessselfpromotion -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hey! I resemble that remark. :-) Scooter (Also hoping heaven looks like Jay Leno's garage.) >>> JOE NAGY 11/05/98 11:08AM >>> FYI, I don't consider myself a Yankee. I'm just a simple, scruffy, backasswards northwoods jackpine savage.=20 Actually hoping heaven looks like Jay Leno's garage, Joe From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:37:50 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20303 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:37:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25513; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:37:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051537.KAA25513@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:37:07 -0500 Subject: RE: Seneca Rocks CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA114@MSCEX> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 9:59, Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: > > > Oh my goodness Chris....Do you think you could have given them a more > boring route down to the rocks!!???!! he he he How bout 647 out of Marshal > to Flint Hill, Left at the end of the road, Right turn at first light > (can't remember the raod name, but it's only about a block after you > turned off of 647) at the Y, follow road to the right (pavement is > reddish), all the way into Washington, VA... >From 647 it's a left turn on 522 for about 1 block, then a right turn on 606 which becomes 628. There isn't a traffic light in Flint Hill, it's too small! :-) I did a nice ride out to Seneca Rocks in early August... took 55 out, and came back via 33. Nearly got hit by a house on 33, but a good trip otherwise! :-) If I remember correctly it was about 300 miles round trip from Sterling. I would definitely do that route again next year. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:38:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20313 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29360 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from postal.clark.net (known postal2.clark.net [168.143.0.18]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20949 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net (loas.clark.net [168.143.0.13]) by postal.clark.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15103 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from manitou.bdanet.com (bdanet.com [209.70.174.3]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02474 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdanet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:41:47 -0500 Message-ID: <21C53F566655D111845600A0C90D6A260365F7@bdanet.com> From: David Cross To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Snell ratings.. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:41:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > My understanding of the Snell rateing is that Snell rates helmets for > 'race > use'. No, that is not true. Snell has different standards but did not create them with racing in mind. > I.E. - they don't look at low speed impacts, but the other end.. high > speed crashes and the effects they'll have on the helmet. > Helmets are only designed to protect your head from an impact of about 13mph, which is the typical speed your head reaches when you fall from the seat of the motorcycle onto the pavement. If you slide head first into a wall at 20mph, the helmet is NOT designed for that extreme an impact. > Typically Snell > helmets have a 'harder' feel as they have more firm foam for impact > absorbtion. Where-as DOT has a softer material. > Um . . . this is not true. If I handed you a two unmarked helmets you would have a pretty hard time telling which was DOT and which was Snell. > I believe that all SNELL lids automatically are DOT rated as well.. > Again, not necessarily true. There have been Snell rated helmets that did not meet DOT standards. To learn more about Snell standards go to their website at: http://www.smf.org/ Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:40:32 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20329 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25843; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:40:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051540.KAA25843@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:39:45 -0500 Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Priority: normal In-reply-to: <852566B3.00540F97.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > Jan/Feb. I've been to the Baltimore show... while I did find it interesting to look at all the decked out custom bikes, it was VERY light on new bikes, and riding apparel and accessories. I probably wouldn't bother going again. I understand that the NY show is much better. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:42:43 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20421 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16642; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:43:33 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA11F@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'christopher.meier@XXXXXX'" , Marvin Heilesen Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:43:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Yipee....it's not me stirring up the pot this time!!! he he he > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX > [SMTP:christopher.meier@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 10:36 AM > To: Marvin Heilesen > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: local elections > > and I told myself I was gonna stay out of this one ... damn! > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:51:12 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20539 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17227; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:52:07 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA120@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Anita Lauro'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:52:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain It's two differnt shows... The one in Cleveland, NY, etc. is the good one. The one in Baltimore is primarily set up by area dealers that carry many of the "international" brands. While you will see some nice stuff, you won't see near the content as the big show in NYC. > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [SMTP:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 10:50 AM > To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule > > On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > > Jan/Feb. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:54:46 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20560 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:54:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105155557.6705.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:55:57 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:55:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: SCOTT Rush , ghowell@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mobacc@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Somebody else will have to be the designated driver. I'll be the designated drinker. ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > I'm up for a trip to NY. Van or train is fine with me. > > Scooter > > >>> Ray 11/05/98 10:18AM >>> > > How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? > > > > ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" > > wrote: > > > > >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? > > > > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > > assume would be the 16th: > > > > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > > > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) > > > > Drop me a line if you're interested! > > Anita > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:55:07 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20573 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:55:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105155523.5161.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:55:23 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:55:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: SCOTT Rush , ghowell@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mobacc@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If we're going to New York City, I'll bring the rope. ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > I'm up for a trip to NY. Van or train is fine with me. > > Scooter > > >>> Ray 11/05/98 10:18AM >>> > > How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? > > > > ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" > > wrote: > > > > >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? > > > > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > > assume would be the 16th: > > > > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > > > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) > > > > Drop me a line if you're interested! > > Anita > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:57:24 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20657 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:57:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105155842.8320.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:58:42 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:58:42 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >From what I understand the balto show and the traveling show are different series, different types of shows, and appealing toward a different demographic. I hope to do both shows. ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > > Jan/Feb. > > I've been to the Baltimore show... while I did find it interesting to > look at all the decked out custom bikes, it was VERY light on new > bikes, and riding apparel and accessories. I probably wouldn't > bother going again. I understand that the NY show is much better. > > Anita > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:08:33 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20834 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18580; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:07:24 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA124@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Ray'" , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:07:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain A rope??? Kinda reminds me of the saying "Never bring a knife to a gunfight" I'll be sure to have my MAK-90 handy :) (although for a non-firing weapon, i really do love those ASP batons :)) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:07:43 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20831 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:07:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105160917.13773.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:09:17 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:09:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: DC Traffic blocked by jumper To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Was I the only person that got stuck by the jumper on the Wilson bridge? The first day in five months I have to get from one side of DC to the other and the beltway is closed, I had to drive through DC. Next time someone wanting to commit suicide blocks traffic for five hours, I vote we get a sniper out there to shoot him off the bridge. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:09:10 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20837 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29924 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22246 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:06:00 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Todd Peer" Cc: Subject: RE: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:10:02 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be08d6$be43f1e0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> AFAIK, there's only one type of Snell certification for MC helmets. Snell only tests at the request of the manufacturer. The Nolan and BMW System helmets are a better helmet than the Duotec (quieter and a little tougher. Not sure if the latter matters in the real world) Then there's the debate raised in one MC mag over the importance of the Snell vs. DOT ratings... ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a > Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet > with a flip up > chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a chin > bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for different > style helmets? From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:10:31 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20865 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:10:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105161207.15439.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:12:07 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:12:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You know, as in "NEW YORK CITY! Get a rope!" What's a MAK-90? Sounds like a copy of an Ingram. I have four guns, which should I bring? ---"Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: > > A rope??? Kinda reminds me of the saying "Never bring a knife to a > gunfight" > > I'll be sure to have my MAK-90 handy :) > (although for a non-firing weapon, i really do love those ASP batons :)) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:16:09 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20975 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:16:05 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA15690; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:16:44 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma015511; Thu, 5 Nov 98 11:15:59 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y006L3IGTUA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.0058E61D ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:11:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:12:46 -0500 Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.0058E60D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL YES! The NY show (Cycle World Show) is a Manufacturers show. The Balmer show is a dealer/individual show. Big difference. Although I was hoping for more in the way of accessories at NYC. I ended up buying more at Balmer. Go figure. --chris To: Christopher A. Weaver/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US@C&L US, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Date: 11/05/98 03:39:45 PM GMT Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > Jan/Feb. I've been to the Baltimore show... while I did find it interesting to look at all the decked out custom bikes, it was VERY light on new bikes, and riding apparel and accessories. I probably wouldn't bother going again. I understand that the NY show is much better. 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From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:18:19 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21003 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:18:16 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA17157; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:20:06 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma016961; Thu, 5 Nov 98 11:19:09 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y0082QIM6QT@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.0059331B ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:14:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:16:07 -0500 Subject: Re: The estimate is in . . . part one To: "Burger, Donald " Cc: DC Cycles Message-id: <852566B3.00593496.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Never fails huh? Go in there looking for a low bill and it costs you in body parts, go in there hoping the stick it to ya, and it is low and won't make the totaling value. Sorry to hear about that Don, chris From: "Burger, Donald " Date: 11/05/98 01:44:41 PM GMT Subject: The estimate is in . . . part one Yesterday afternoon I call Coleman's to ask if the estimate will be ready if I come by after work and they tell me yes it will. So when I'm done --snip-- ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:28:17 1998 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from stmpy.cais.net (stmpy.cais.net [199.0.216.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21173 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from wowbager (dynamic82.cais.com [207.226.56.82]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28891 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:43:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981105112608.006d4684@mail.dc.net> X-Sender: wowbager@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:26:08 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike Subject: Re: Intl Moto Show NYC via Amtrak In-Reply-To: <199811051523.KAA23990@radagast.wizard.net> References: <19981105151819.14563.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:22 AM 11/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >On 5 Nov 98, at 7:18, Ray wrote: > >> How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? > >Last time I checked, the train was over $100 round trip (per >person). Bus is cheaper - but I have only ridden the DC-NY bus >ONE time, and that was 15-16 years ago... one time was definitely >enough!!! :-) > Amtrak has discounts for 20 or more being about $130.00 per person round trip must travel as a group on unreserved coach and the 21st person goes free. the regular rate is about $150.00 >I figure a group in a van has got to be cheaper than the train, and >it's not a bad way to travel! I've driven a 15 passenger van before, >and other than being loooong, it's okay. Or, with a smaller group a >minivan or regular size van. I'll check some prices. Probably the better way to go. Mike B. > >Anita > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:42:08 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21414 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00479 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (known imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23246 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WEAAa02341 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:05 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Sat. Ride... Meeting? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Lee, about how long will it take to get from exit 32 to Hagerstown? If you leave there at 9, whould you be there by 11? I was thinking that we could all meet at Twigg Cycles off Rt 40. I can swing down to Leesburg to meet Hugh around 9, ride to Urbana to meet Marvin around 10 and take 40 W ALT to Hagerstown with plenty of time for refueling and such. Hugh, where's a good place to meet off of Rt 7 or 15 in Leesburg? Marvin, how about we meet at the Firestation in Urbana? Brian, where do you want to meet? Whew, coordination like this is a challenge! :) Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:41:51 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21347 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA32022; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051641.LAA32022@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Mike , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Intl Moto Show NYC via Amtrak Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19981105112608.006d4684@mail.dc.net> References: <199811051523.KAA23990@radagast.wizard.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 11:26, Mike wrote: > Amtrak has discounts for 20 or more being about $130.00 per person round > trip must travel as a group on unreserved coach and the 21st person goes > free. the regular rate is about $150.00 Ack! We could each have our own rental car for that much! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:44:07 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21453 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA28384; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:43:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105164326.SFYV649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:43:26 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: The estimate is in . . . part one Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:44 -0500 Message-ID: <001301be08db$2c478fe0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199811051403.JAA18601@meretrix.com> Importance: Normal You might want to suggest to the SVC Manager you are interested in totalling the bike. Todd > Damn, even the one thing we all said they could do.. they F'd up.. can't > those guys get ANYTHING right? > > Tell me Don, did it look like everyone's mommy dressed them for work that > day? Did you happen to see a grade-school style coat rack with a bunch of > Barney and Rugrats lunch boxes laying around? > > Seesh, I'm glad I have a shop that's competent, quick and friendly.. > > Brian > > > -----Original Message----- > > The total was only $3,500. I was totally shocked. > > Then I looked > > at the estimate. They missed more things than I could imagine. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:48:15 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21553 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTA9V2QK; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:46:19 EST To: gixer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line Message-ID: <19981102.172635.4935.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532B7@sw730x023.visa.com> <3640D4F6.2C59@iname.com> <364192EA.1F8D417D@XXXXXX> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-7 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:46:19 EST As a former Hechinger employee (Tools and Hardware) I can tell you that they carry reflective vests, usually way in the back of their "tool corrals" (yee-ha...) next to the orange road cones and the "CAUTION" tape. In case you need to know. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:51:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21641 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00662 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (known mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23643 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:51:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051651.LAA23643@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:32:31 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Snell ratings.. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:29:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) opps.. time to shut-up and read.. :P > -----Original Message----- http://www.smf.org/ Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:52:22 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21651 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:52:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051652.LAA21651@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:35:46 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule - LAST YEARS IMPRESSIO NS Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:33:01 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Kirk, Colleen and I went last year.. I must say, it was - well.. it was ok. Something worth doing maybe once every 4~5 years. Mostly, it was something to do with one day of a weekend. Yea, it was nice walking around and seeing the new bikes, but it wasn't any kind of a big deal. I really hope people enjoy the show.. but it just wasn't interesting enough to warrent a trip into that city (or any city) to see again.. (yea, I got to see the new R1 last year.. and the Polaris.. but, again.. whoopee). Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:56:03 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21686 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA26276; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105165439.SLFL649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:54:39 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, "George Howell" Cc: "mobacc" , "Dc Cycles" Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001901be08dc$bd95efe0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <364db20b.308470441@smtp.wizard.net> Importance: Normal Now this actually has potential! How Early Saturday? I personally wouldn't mind riding up, but if we've got a volunteer "designated Driver"..... ;) Todd > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > assume would be the 16th: > > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) > > Drop me a line if you're interested! > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:03:03 1998 Return-Path: mdpetty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21810 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <46K8TS6T>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:57:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Intl Moto Show NYC via Amtrak Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:57:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > On 5 Nov 98, at 11:26, Mike wrote: > > > Amtrak has discounts for 20 or more being about $130.00 per person > round > > trip must travel as a group on unreserved coach and the 21st person > goes > > free. the regular rate is about $150.00 > Hey, for that much (and about 40 people), we could rent a tour bus and a driver. Now THAT would be the way to go. -Mark From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:05:09 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21831 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00989 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (known dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA24208 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:04:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA07777; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:59:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv13-63.ix.netcom.com(204.32.189.63) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma007677; Thu Nov 5 10:59:20 1998 Message-ID: <000801be08dd$7a515de0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:58:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sorry LBB. Dont expect anything near 60 on Saturday. Weather willbe much like today, its currently 37 degrees, and the high on saturday is the same as todays at 45 degrees with a low of 26. Same again for Sunday, then a bit warmer with rain forecast for Monday. HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV -----Original Message----- From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX To: snake69@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Anyone riding? >I'm riding up to Hagerstown Saturday. If the weather isn't too cold, I'll be >on my bike... Yes, if it doesn't at least hit 60 degrees, I'll be in my >Tracker! la >Lee Andrese > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:05:42 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21911 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:04:47 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:04:37 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:03:40 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline The International show is sponsored by Cycle World--I've been to it in various cities, including last year in NYC. The big draw is new bikes from all the manufacturers. You'll also find Dunlop, Bates, Storz, etc. It's not a black-leather-and-Harley kind of deal--Though H-D is usually there with their "showroom" display. All in all, it's a pretty cool thing. Joe From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:05:52 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21909 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:05:21 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA08593; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:06:56 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma008410; Thu, 5 Nov 98 12:06:12 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00DLBKSI8W@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.005D8016 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:01:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:03:01 -0500 Subject: Re: DC Traffic blocked by jumper To: Ray Cc: DCCycles List Message-id: <852566B3.005D81C5.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL FYI, I live in the Landmark/Old Town Alexandria area and my SO lives in Balmer. Everytime I go to Maryland (anywhere north of Andrews AFB) I always go through the city. Believe it or not, it is *much* faster. Esp. by bike. --chris From: Ray Date: 11/05/98 04:09:17 PM GMT Subject: DC Traffic blocked by jumper Was I the only person that got stuck by the jumper on the Wilson bridge? The first day in five months I have to get from one side of DC to the other and the beltway is closed, I had to drive through DC. Next time someone wanting to commit suicide blocks traffic for five hours, I vote we get a sniper out there to shoot him off the bridge. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:08:42 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21932 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:08:33 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA10303; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:10:11 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma010130; Thu, 5 Nov 98 12:09:50 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00CZVKXZDW@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:08:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.005DCC9E ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:04:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:05:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Cc: gixer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.005DC592.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Also ... Kmart, Target, Sunny's Surplus, most hunting and fishing stores, Modells, Sports Authority, probably REI, etc. You all aren't having a tough time finding these are you? The original post stated that they we not able to be found at PX/BXs, not that they couldn't be found. Later, chris From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: 11/05/98 04:46:19 PM GMT Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line As a former Hechinger employee (Tools and Hardware) I can tell you that they carry reflective vests, usually way in the back of their "tool corrals" (yee-ha...) next to the orange road cones and the "CAUTION" tape. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:09:59 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21942 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:09:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA04665; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105170505.SQIY649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:05:05 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , "DCCycles List" Subject: RE: DC Traffic blocked by jumper Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:03:20 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01be08de$317585a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981105160917.13773.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal The police attempted to distract him by shooting a bean bag at him. Shortly thereafter the dumb ass jumped...65 feet (that's 19.825 meters to you Collin..Ha, ha). But they didn't shoot until way after rush hour. My vote is the next time this happens (and this is the second time in two years), the police line up like a firing squad and pummel the dumb-bastard with bean bags. He'll either run away or be knocked over the edge. And does anyone else feel this guy should've gone to the tower? He was just at the Alexandria riverbank. What a wuss! Todd > Was I the only person that got stuck by the jumper on the Wilson > bridge? The first day in five months I have to get from one side of > DC to the other and the beltway is closed, I had to drive through DC. > Next time someone wanting to commit suicide blocks traffic for five > hours, I vote we get a sniper out there to shoot him off the bridge. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:10:42 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21957 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:10:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105171154.24587.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:11:54 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:11:54 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: DC Traffic blocked by jumper To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's probably faster by bike, but not by Ford supercab longbed pickup, especially when the street sign I was looking for was missing. ---christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > > FYI, I live in the Landmark/Old Town Alexandria area and my SO lives in > Balmer. Everytime I go to Maryland (anywhere north of Andrews AFB) I > always go through the city. Believe it or not, it is *much* faster. Esp. > by bike. > > --chris > > > From: Ray > Date: 11/05/98 04:09:17 PM GMT > Subject: DC Traffic blocked by jumper > > > Was I the only person that got stuck by the jumper on the Wilson > bridge? The first day in five months I have to get from one side of > DC to the other and the beltway is closed, I had to drive through DC. > Next time someone wanting to commit suicide blocks traffic for five > hours, I vote we get a sniper out there to shoot him off the bridge. > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:11:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21974 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01093 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA24458 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:33 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WNTKa10441 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <78ed3e7b.3641dc24@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:00 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Inter Moto Show NY -heheh Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Ill go up there! Its a success as long as I get to see the Suz GSX1300R. Oh man, Id kill for one of them things. Colemans has already sold 4 of em and they arent even available until April! Jack From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:22:35 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22200 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03316 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:22:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051722.MAA03316@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:21:57 -0500 Subject: Proposed Trip to NYC Int'l Moto Show Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Okay, I made some calls to rental agencies and so far I have not located any "full size" vans for rent in the DC area. The 15 passenger vans do not come with unlimited mileage, so the rental rate is pretty high. That currently leaves us with minivans (the Dodge Caravan size). The trick is also to only rent for 1 day, so I need a rental location open 24 hours. My proposal would be for me to pick up the van at Dulles Airport in the wee hours of the morning (6-7 am?). Then I could pick up people in one or two locations, depending on where people are coming from. One idea might be Tysons and a spot right off of Rte 95 in MD. I wouldn't want to pick up from more than 2 locations. So far, Avis has the best deal, $58.99 per day for unlimited mileage (including taxes). Adding in $80.00 for gas/parking/tolls, that brings the cost to $140.00. If we get six people (including driver), that would make the cost approximately $24 per person. That seems pretty reasonable, especially compared to the train! If we get enough interest, we could get a second van (or a tour bus!). Anyhow, that's where it's at right now. There seems to be quite a bit of interest, so at this point I'd say I'm in for at least 1 minivan full. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:23:18 1998 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22210 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA11187 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:22:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from san-tx14-63.ix.netcom.com(204.32.189.63) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011011; Thu Nov 5 11:21:46 1998 Message-ID: <005b01be08e0$9c4de640$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:20:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01BE08B6.B2421D60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BE08B6.B2421D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For What its worth, I have always still enjoyed the Baltimore show, plus = ther are some really GREAT!! restauraunts downtown in Baltimore. In = years past it has been held around Valentines day. Anyone know if its = scheduled this year yet. =20 As for the New York show, where exactly is it? Is it near or = accesible from Grand Central station? I have traveled frequently by = train to Philadelphia. Its not cheap, but then again, it is a fun time = so long as its not too much of a hike from the station to wherever the = show is at. Its also safe in a group ;). And if its close to Mama = Leones, you could get a chance to experience one of the best Italian = restauraunts in the country. Just a suggestion. Im hoping by then I = hav partial weekends again ;). And if not, might have a bad case of the = flue...hehe;) HDKnight Ken 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BE08B6.B2421D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For What its worth, I have always = still enjoyed=20 the Baltimore show, plus ther are some really GREAT!! restauraunts = downtown in=20 Baltimore.  In years past it has been held around Valentines = day. =20 Anyone know if its scheduled this year yet.
 
    As for the New = York show,=20 where exactly is it?   Is it near or accesible from Grand = Central=20 station?   I have traveled frequently by train to = Philadelphia. =20 Its not cheap, but then again, it is a fun time so long as its not too = much of a=20 hike from the station to wherever the show is at. Its also safe in a = group=20 ;).  And if its close to Mama Leones, you could get a chance to = experience=20 one of the best Italian restauraunts in the country.  Just a=20 suggestion.  Im hoping by then I hav partial weekends again = ;).  And=20 if not, might have a bad case of the flue...hehe;)
HDKnight
Ken
1996 XLH 1200
Ride = Safe
Inwood,=20 WV
------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BE08B6.B2421D60-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:26:24 1998 Return-Path: louis@XXXXXX Received: from postal.clark.net (postal.clark.net [168.143.0.17]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22223 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:26:22 -0500 (EST) From: louis@XXXXXX Received: from shell.clark.net (clark.net [168.143.0.8]) by postal.clark.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20093 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08498 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:26:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051726.MAA08498@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Intl Moto Show NYC via Amtrak To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:26:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199811051641.LAA32022@radagast.wizard.net> from "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@wizard.net>" at Nov 5, 98 11:41:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text When my friend got married 2 weeks ago, he asked me to be a driver. They rented a 15 person van for about $180 I think, and I drove it with no problems. We had a cooler with soft (and other) drinks, food, etc. Was a blast. Would sure beat $130 per person. We got the van at Mongumary Wards, at Springfield Mall. Just another idea for the pot. Louis > On 5 Nov 98, at 11:26, Mike wrote: > > > Amtrak has discounts for 20 or more being about $130.00 per person round > > trip must travel as a group on unreserved coach and the 21st person goes > > free. the regular rate is about $150.00 > > Ack! We could each have our own rental car for that much! :-) > > Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:32:34 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22336 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13520 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:32:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:32:19 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Inter Moto Show NY -heheh In-Reply-To: <78ed3e7b.3641dc24@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > Ill go up there! Its a success as long as I get to see the Suz GSX1300R. Oh > man, Id kill for one of them things. Colemans has already sold 4 of em and > they arent even available until April! ...pan to Kirk jumping to safety (flamesuit at the cleaners)... From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:50:13 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22680 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:50:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051750.MAA22680@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:58 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Sat. Ride... Meeting? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:40:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Where's the firestation in Urbana? I can probably get there with ease (so long as I have the right town.. like 2 exits south of Fredrick, Rt80 runs through town.. Thurston Rd's on the west side of the 270 type Urbana?) If not.. give me directions somewhere up there, I'll find the place.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > > Marvin, how about we meet at the Firestation in Urbana? > > Brian, where do you want to meet? > > Whew, coordination like this is a challenge! :) > > Robert VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:14:55 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23055 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02072 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA26599 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:46 -0500 (EST) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WVMWa02538 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <877d3965.3641eaf4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:12 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: Anyone riding? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 temps don't get too low until there's ice on the road! C'MON guys! ;D -Marcy From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:18:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23111 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:18:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02101 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (known send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA26868 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:18:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105181935.12741.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.171.245.167] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:19:35 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:19:35 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Wakefield Subject: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Folks, Just changed jobs recently (lost/regained e-mail in process), so I haven't kept up with the list- sponsored ERC training. (Dave Jr speaking here) I'm writing to say that I got ERC instructor- certified through MD's motorcycle safety program last weekend in Glen Burnie, and I'd like to drop by Saturday to help or simply watch the veteran instructors teach the course. Let me know if I can be of assistance to you. Thanks, -Dave _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:20:53 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23188 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02132 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27431 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:48 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WUPBa10440 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <718a68aa.3641ec54@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:04 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: local elections Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-05 10:48:08 EST, you write: << Subj: RE: local elections Date: 98-11-05 10:48:08 EST From: cfagan@XXXXXX (Fagan, Collin LTJG) To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX ('christopher.meier@XXXXXX'), snake01@XXXXXX (Marvin Heilesen) CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Yipee....it's not me stirring up the pot this time!!! he he he >> Jessie "The Body" Ventura for President! From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:27:43 1998 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23281 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA20553 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:27:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from san-tx14-63.ix.netcom.com(204.32.189.63) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020428; Thu Nov 5 12:26:10 1998 Message-ID: <013b01be08e9$9ba904a0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:25:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Personaly I am glad the Yamaha clones are out there, as well as all the others. I really hope Polaris and Triumpg, and Guzzi starrt taking bites out of the market. Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. The place has always treated me more than fair for parts and service, but at this point I doubt I would ever even consider buying another bike from them. Right now on the floor they have 3 XLH1200 Sport models all for almost $10,000. I would love one to supplement my current 1200 Standard which is set up like a Dyna Convertible, but but not a bloody chance. I will buy from somewher else or a different bike altogether before I pay another premium like that for a bike. so let Yanaha sell all the clones they can, and start putting a dent into a place like that. Its time these dealers started acting like salespeople attempting to provide a service. The closest I have come to a Harley dealer that actuallywas trying to sell bikes was a Buell dealer and I am at the point that if I decide to trade my bike in eventually, it will definitely be for a Buell, noy a HD. They at least act like they are interested in trying to sell you a bike. Fo now unless things improve though, I expect to buy a Kawasaki to supplement the Sportster, instead of a second Sportster, before going and trading the Sportster in for a Buell. And the main factor in this decision is the lousy salesmanship at the local HD dealers. HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:31:32 1998 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23323 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA21064; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:30:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from san-tx14-63.ix.netcom.com(204.32.189.63) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021044; Thu Nov 5 12:30:22 1998 Message-ID: <014001be08ea$31bb98e0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:29:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Yeah that would be good, Very good in fact.... Would be fun. I guess I = would be willing to share in the driving also.... HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV -----Original Message----- From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Ken Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows.=20 >I sent a message to the list, but maybe it hasn't got to you yet. It's = >$960.00 for a 47 passenger bus. If we can get 32 people, it'd be=20 >$30 a head. Pretty good, I think. > >Anita > >On 5 Nov 98, at 13:03, Ken wrote: > >> Hey Anita, that does not sound like a bad idea, Do you know how much = a >> charter bus runs?, I can look up Train rates and schedules also. = HDKnight >> 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV - >>=20 >> >Ken, >> > >> >What do you think of my bus idea? Might be worth a case of the >> >flu! :-) >> > >> >Anita >>=20 > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:37:29 1998 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov ([199.128.203.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23420 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:37:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by DCHQEXS1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:36:17 -0500 Message-ID: <43CE126D7B6AD111A5910000F80154B5011D36AA@DCHQEXS1> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Rain & Helmets Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:36:10 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain I'm a newbie to this list and had planned to lurk for a week or so before posting but the Lemon Pledge post nooged me to this. 1) Rain-X is supposed to be a no-no for some plastics but I haven't noticed any problem on my Shoei shields. I read once that you can tell Rain-X ed fairing shields form untreated ones by hitting them with a sledge hammer. Treated shield shattered, untreated one bounced the hammer back YMMV. 2) However, I found that Novus plastic polish does an equally great job. The rain sheets off the face shield same as Rain-X. Read Plastics (Rockville) sells it, IRRC $1.85 for handy 2 oz bottle. $3.95 for bigger bottle with spray thingy. 3) Fog-X works for me but you have to replenish it weekly. RE: buying a helmet: Do be willing to pay more for comfort because you'll save money in the long run. You'll likely be wearing that helmet for hours at a time in the near future and the bucks you saved will be a pittance after you dump the noisy, heavy, uncomfortable, cheap bucket for a decent helmet. The Dirt Shop (On west side of Route 1, about 1/2 mile south of the beltway) is good. Jerry, publisher of the great freebie mag, used to own it. Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg, MD) let me test ride helmets. (Another excellent reason to buy locally) Also, many local shops will consider the posted price "a starting place" if you offer less. Cash in hand helps but isn't always necessary. "It is funny to see how motorcycle parking has become much more available this week..." - Jeannette Yep, there's 4 on K street this morning where there used to be 10. Carl S. Custer Bethesda, MD carl.custer@XXXXXX (simpler than the mess above and they let me play during lunch - munch, munch) '85 VF700S '80 GS450E AMA 676120 Commuting into your nation's capitol since 1981 through rain, sun, and snow, but no ice! "Loud shirts save lives." From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:42:43 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23509 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:42:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105184420.25357.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:44:20 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:44:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. To: Ken , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does this price for the bus include fuel, driver, tolls, and parking? ---Ken wrote: > > Yeah that would be good, Very good in fact.... Would be fun. I guess I would be willing to share in the driving also.... > HDKnight > 1996 XLH 1200 > Ride Safe > Inwood, WV > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> > To: Ken > Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 1:11 PM > Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. > > > >I sent a message to the list, but maybe it hasn't got to you yet. It's > >$960.00 for a 47 passenger bus. If we can get 32 people, it'd be > >$30 a head. Pretty good, I think. > > > >Anita > > > >On 5 Nov 98, at 13:03, Ken wrote: > > > >> Hey Anita, that does not sound like a bad idea, Do you know how much a > >> charter bus runs?, I can look up Train rates and schedules also. HDKnight > >> 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV - > >> > >> >Ken, > >> > > >> >What do you think of my bus idea? Might be worth a case of the > >> >flu! :-) > >> > > >> >Anita > >> > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:46:42 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23571 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A28D2060204; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:46:37 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105135117.00fa45e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:52:24 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers In-Reply-To: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> References: <3640B5F9.B7C42388@illuminet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:25 AM 11/5/98 , Todd Peer wrote: >Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a >Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet with a flip up >chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a chin >bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for different >style helmets? One of the guys on a BMW list posted a response from Snell that said no one had submitted a flip-front helmet to them to test. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:47:58 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23581 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:47:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105184936.28862.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:49:36 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Any BSA streetbike riders on the list? Especially any version of the A65. My friend with the A65T is looking for parts and opinions. I'm looking for other Triumph (Meridean) riders out there (nothing against the Hinckleys) to get together for rides, talk, etc. Bonus: I have a complete set of Whitworth sockets and spanners. Ray _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:49:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23595 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02672 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29257 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA05746; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:48:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3641F267.9831ECFB@illuminet.net> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:45:59 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone riding? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <877d3965.3641eaf4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > > temps don't get too low until there's ice on the road! C'MON guys! ;D > > -Marcy I nominate Marcy for governor. Here's why. If Marcy were governor, she'd have more snow and ice removal equipment out on the roads. If the ice is kept off the road, then the temps will stay up. If the temperature stays up, we can still ride. -- Leon - I'll be riding in snow sometime in the next week. Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:54:29 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23692 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12344; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:54:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051854.NAA12344@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Ray , dc-cycles Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:53:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19981105184420.25357.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 10:44, Ray wrote: > Does this price for the bus include fuel, driver, tolls, and parking? I was told that the $960.00 includes everything bus related (i.e. not admission to the show itself). I was also told that picking up as early as 7 am and returning after midnight would not be a problem. I would, of course, get a contract, references, etc. before collecting $$ and chartering a bus. I did not ask about the "in season" rate, but I got the distinct impression that charter buses are not in high demand in January. I guess if the buses are just sitting there, some $$ is better than no $$. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:59:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23824 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02907 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (known usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29655 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:22 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 05 Nov 1998 13:59:19 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 05 Nov 1998 13:59:19 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 06E9D3641F587010-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 06E9D3641F587010 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <06E9D3641F587010*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 05 Nov 1998 13:59:19 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: "LungHD@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: local elections Message-Id: <06E9D3641F587010*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Why not? He couldn't be any worse than Ronnie Ray Gun. >Jessie "The Body" Ventura for President! From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:59:53 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23826 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12881; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051859.NAA12881@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Custer, Carl" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:58:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Rain & Helmets Priority: normal In-reply-to: <43CE126D7B6AD111A5910000F80154B5011D36AA@DCHQEXS1> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 13:36, Custer, Carl wrote: > RE: buying a helmet: Do be willing to pay more for comfort because > you'll save money in the long run. You'll likely be wearing that helmet > for hours at a time in the near future and the bucks you saved will be a > pittance after you dump the noisy, heavy, uncomfortable, cheap bucket for > a decent helmet. I agree. I am *extremely* satisfied with my RF800 that I paid ~$280 for back in August. It is much lighter and quieter than my old RF200 (which was not a "cheap" helmet), and that really makes a difference on those all day rides! Anita (not getting much work done today!) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:16:39 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24098 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14522 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:16:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051916.OAA14522@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:15:35 -0500 Subject: (Fwd) Re: Proposed Trip to NYC Int'l Moto Show Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) I'm having one of those days... helps if I actually POST the message to dc-cycles, and not just reply to myself. Ugh! Don't worry, I can organize a bus trip, honest! :-) Anita ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> Date sent: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:46:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Proposed Trip to NYC Int'l Moto Show Priority: normal Interesting bit of information... I called a bus company and found out that chartering a bus might not be a bad idea! January is not a busy month, so they discount the rates. For a 47-passenger bus, it is $960.00 inclusive from Washington DC to NYC and back. If we had 24 people, it'd be $40/person. It'd drop to $32 for 30 people, and $21 for a full bus. Now, I don't know how many people would actually be interested in doing this, but we could publish it outside of the dc-cycles as well. I wouldn't mind being the organizer, but I'd like to get an idea of how many people would be "seriously" interested. Obviously, this would be one occasion where a lot of "no shows" would be a bad thing! If you are interested, drop me a line and let me know what the maximum you'd pay for the trip (between $21 and $40). And, if we go the bus route, wives, SO's, neighbors, etc. would be welcome. This might actually be fun! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:20:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24195 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03330 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (known send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA00913 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:20:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105192149.18895.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:21:49 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:21:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Everybody sing along: "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... he's the head of the ku klux klan When summer comes rolling around we'll be lucky to get out of town." The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of history. Ray (seven years old in August '69) ---"Burger, Donald " wrote: > > > > >Jessie "The Body" Ventura for President! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:21:49 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24215 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA14270; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105191929.UUDK649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:19:29 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, , Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:17:47 -0500 Message-ID: <002201be08f0$f937a7a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199811051540.KAA25843@radagast.wizard.net> Importance: Normal I think they are completely different shows. > > On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > > Jan/Feb. > > I've been to the Baltimore show... while I did find it interesting to > look at all the decked out custom bikes, it was VERY light on new > bikes, and riding apparel and accessories. I probably wouldn't > bother going again. I understand that the NY show is much better. > > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:36:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24437 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03579 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (known oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02593 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak (oak [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25083; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:35:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:35:37 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler X-Sender: ph@oak To: Ray cc: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections In-Reply-To: <19981105192149.18895.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Heh heh. I remember that song. http://olga.skynet.be/olga/main/b/baez_joan/drug_store_truck_drivin_man.crd -ph On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > he's the head of the ku klux klan > When summer comes rolling around > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > history. > Ray (seven years old in August '69) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:39:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24469 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03604 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02709 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02793; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:40:29 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA132@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Ray'" , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:40:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain tweren't even a glimmer in me momma's eye.... he he he... I guess "old fart" is a requirement to be a chief :) just kiddin Ray... > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:31 PM > To: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: local elections > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > that's from, > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:40:13 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24482 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:40:08 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id OAA15360; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:41:48 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma014879; Thu, 5 Nov 98 14:40:28 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00DG8RXGE2@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.006B9CA3 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:35:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:36:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. To: Ken Cc: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles Message-id: <852566B3.006B94F7.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Two things ... 1) does the $960/32 = $30 include gas? 2) do you need a CDL (or other variant) to drive a 47 passenger bus? Interested, --chris To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> cc: dc-cycles From: Ken Date: 11/05/98 06:29:14 PM GMT Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Yeah that would be good, Very good in fact.... Would be fun. I guess I would be willing to share in the driving also.... HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV -----Original Message----- From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Ken Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. >I sent a message to the list, but maybe it hasn't got to you yet. It's >$960.00 for a 47 passenger bus. If we can get 32 people, it'd be >$30 a head. Pretty good, I think. > >Anita > >On 5 Nov 98, at 13:03, Ken wrote: > >> Hey Anita, that does not sound like a bad idea, Do you know how much a >> charter bus runs?, I can look up Train rates and schedules also. HDKnight >> 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV - >> >> >Ken, >> > >> >What do you think of my bus idea? Might be worth a case of the >> >flu! :-) >> > >> >Anita >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:47:52 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24619 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03709 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (known send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02890 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:47:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105194908.7276.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:49:08 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:49:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: Peter Hartzler Cc: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dedicated at Woodstock to Ronald Ray-Gun, then governor of Californy. And who was the other President sung about there? ---Peter Hartzler wrote: > > Heh heh. I remember that song. > > http://olga.skynet.be/olga/main/b/baez_joan/drug_store_truck_drivin_man.crd > > -ph > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > When summer comes rolling around > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > > history. > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:48:32 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24630 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03715 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com (known piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02913 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0FF1880212; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:48:15 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105145255.00faa690@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:54:07 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: local elections In-Reply-To: <19981105192149.18895.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:21 PM 11/5/98 , Ray wrote: >The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what >that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of >history. >Ray (seven years old in August '69) "we're goin' down to Yasgur's farm, gonna plaaaaaay in a rock 'n' roll baaaaaand." Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:49:36 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24649 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03747 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (known send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02958 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:49:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105195049.8687.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:50:49 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's Chief with a capital C. Hopefully soon to be Retired with a capital R. ---"Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: > > tweren't even a glimmer in me momma's eye.... he he he... > I guess "old fart" is a requirement to be a chief :) just kiddin Ray... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:31 PM > > To: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: local elections > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:51:17 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24731 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03773 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03262 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA21134; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:49:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105194945.VIDL649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:49:45 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Leon Begeman" , Cc: Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:03 -0500 Message-ID: <002301be08f5$333e8e60$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3641F267.9831ECFB@illuminet.net> Importance: Normal JinnSinn "the Body" Marcy....WoooHooo! You got my vote baby ;) Leon Begeman wrote: > JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > temps don't get too low until there's ice on the road! C'MON guys! ;D > > > > -Marcy > > I nominate Marcy for governor. > > Here's why. > If Marcy were governor, she'd have more snow and ice removal equipment > out on the roads. > If the ice is kept off the road, then the temps will stay up. > If the temperature stays up, we can still ride. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:54:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24744 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:54:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03802 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (known send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03490 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:54:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105195542.11467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:55:42 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:55:42 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---"Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: > > tweren't even a glimmer in me momma's eye.... he he he... Too bad, you missed out on most of the good music. > I guess "old fart" is a requirement to be a chief :) just kiddin Ray... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:31 PM > > To: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: local elections > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:58:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24831 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ringding.cs.umd.edu (known ringding.cs.umd.edu [128.8.126.2]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03827 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by ringding.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14663 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA12814; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:57:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105195659.VLHT649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:56:59 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , , , Subject: RE: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:55:17 -0500 Message-ID: <002401be08f6$361b7a20$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981105192149.18895.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. Must be a southern Thang! Todd Ray L. wrote: > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > he's the head of the ku klux klan > When summer comes rolling around > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > history. > Ray (seven years old in August '69) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:58:58 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24841 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:58:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105200030.13758.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:00:30 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:00:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Looking for Dutch translator! To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone read and write Dutch, or have contact with any Netherlands embassy or consulate employees? I need some translating done. Ray _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:01:41 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24885 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id MAA25355 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:01:21 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:01:21 -0800 Message-Id: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF553455@sw730x023.visa.com> From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DCCycles List Subject: RE: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:01:32 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Any BSA streetbike riders on the list? Especially any version of the > A65. My friend with the A65T is looking for parts and opinions. I used to have a '66 Lightning back in '68 - no parts left, but still have plenty of opinions... > I'm looking for other Triumph (Meridean) riders out there (nothing > against the Hinckleys) to get together for rides, talk, etc. Ran with a fellow on a late model Triumph (license plate: MERIDN) Monday night going home on Route 28 in Sterling - anybody know who this is?? > I have a complete set of Whitworth sockets and spanners. I'm not sure if this is an asset or not ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:03:23 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24895 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:03:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03915 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (known send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03726 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:02:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105200416.17616.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:04:16 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:04:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: Todd Peer , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Joan Baez dedicated the song "Drug Store Truck Drivin Man" to Ronald Ray-Gun (her pronunciation) at Woodstock in August 1969 which was held on Max Yasgurs farm in upstate New York miles and miles from Woodstock. Are you some kind of pinko commie that doesn't know about Woodstock? Everybody knows about Woodstock! Ray ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. Must > be a southern Thang! > > Todd > > Ray L. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > When summer comes rolling around > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > > history. > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:05:36 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24973 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc2-s21.wizard.net (tc2-s21.wizard.net [206.161.15.97]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA19294; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:05:26 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:11:31 -0500 Message-ID: <36500594.329859530@smtp.wizard.net> References: <852566B3.006B94F7.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> In-Reply-To: <852566B3.006B94F7.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:36:04 -0500, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >1) does the $960/32 =3D $30 include gas? >2) do you need a CDL (or other variant) to drive a 47 passenger bus? The $960.00 includes *everything* -- bus, DRIVER, tolls, gas, parking, etc. Sorry to be so confusing about this... it's been one of those days. The bus would be a "motor coach" with bathroom, VCR and TV, card tables, a/c (need that in January!), etc. Anita (15 passenger van maybe, 47 passenger bus? No way!) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:10:46 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25015 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16521 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:10:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:08:56 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: local elections In-Reply-To: <19981105195542.11467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > tweren't even a glimmer in me momma's eye.... he he he... > > Too bad, you missed out on most of the good music. Hmmm, so did you (Coltrane was at his best, IMHO, in the late 50s). It seems that the latest subscribers to dc-cycles are quite prolific with the messages. Not a real complaint for me but I do anticipate the complaints/unsubscribes for so many off topic posts... Kirk, born in 69 but that's what CDs are for From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:11:30 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25035 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc2-s21.wizard.net (tc2-s21.wizard.net [206.161.15.97]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA19949 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:11:37 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: NYC Moto Show 1/15-1/17/99 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:17:41 -0500 Message-ID: <36510797.330374195@smtp.wizard.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a website for the Cycle World International Motorcycle Shows, including the NYC one: www.motorcycleshows.com Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:17:41 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25171 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05493; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:18:39 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA139@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Anita Lauro'" <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:18:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Driving something like that would be fun.... Besidess, you have the law of gross tonnages on your side!! I'm sure it would require a CDL to drive it though. Whenever you take pax for hire, you need a CDL I believe (least you did where I grew up) > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [SMTP:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:15 PM > To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles > Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. > > Anita > (15 passenger van maybe, 47 passenger bus? No way!) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:23:04 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25248 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04147 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04394 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:22:57 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id OTUJa13873; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:21:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6c1331f8.364208d7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:21:43 EST To: shephar1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-05 13:33:36 EST, you write: snip << Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. >> unsnip Geez! Sorry to hear that your local HD dealer hasn't been arrested for robbery. I'd definitely take my business to another HD dealer! (AND let dealer #1 know about it after you pick up your new bike.) I picked up my FLSTF (after a 3 yr. wait) with no premium for the -"priviledge"- of waiting! :-( Seems our local dealer knows that a happy customer is also one who will return to buy all those accessories & for service. Why screw people & lose customers?! I guess they figure if they get 5,000 people one time that's an extra $100,000 profit. Sounds like he used to be a used car salesman. Hang in there & go elsewhere. Lung From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:41:40 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25647 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA02145; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:40:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052040.PAA02145@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: , "Marvin Heilesen" Cc: Subject: Re: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:39:55 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE08D2.89497680" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE08D2.89497680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I do not believe the media can be that organized. You are giving them waaay > too much credit. Also aAre you aware that there is "right-winged" media > out there? Ever heard of the American Spectator, a fat guy named Limbaugh, > the Christian Science Monitor, Washington Times ... etc. etc. etc. Back in the days of BBS's, I ran a WWIV board (I still do, sort of...). The one sub I hosted over the networks was "A Million Ways To Kill Rush Limbaugh". Yes, just as the name implies, the discussion was ways of killing old lard ass. So, I do not just follow strait party lines. But in this, as with any discussion, someone will twist my words around to mean whatever they want. What I know is that all the democrats I have seen have royally screwed things up (although I did make a shit load of money when Jimmy brought the interest rate up to 22%). The republican have done a better job. The biggest problem is that most of the politicians are lawyers. In other words, our government is run by crooks. If any of you out there are Lawyers, I am sorry, but you are guilty until proven otherwise (sort of like bikers). My father is a lawyer, so I do not have a high opinion of lawyers. Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE08D2.89497680 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I do not believe the media can be = that organized. You are giving them waaay
> too much credit. =  Also aAre you aware that there is "right-winged" = media
> out there?  Ever heard of the American Spectator, a = fat guy named Limbaugh,
> the Christian Science Monitor, = Washington Times ... etc. etc. etc.

Back = in the days of BBS's, I ran a WWIV board (I still do, sort of...). =  The one
sub I hosted over the networks was "A Million = Ways To Kill Rush Limbaugh".
Yes, just as the name implies, the = discussion was ways of killing old lard ass.
So, I do not just follow = strait party lines.

But in this, as with any discussion, someone = will twist my words around to
mean whatever they want.

What I = know is that all the democrats I have seen have royally screwed =
things up (although I did make a shit load of money when Jimmy = brought
the interest rate up to 22%).  The republican have done = a better job.  The
biggest problem is that most of the = politicians are lawyers.  In other words,
our government is run = by crooks.

If any of you out there are Lawyers, I am sorry, but = you are guilty until
proven otherwise (sort of like bikers). =  My father is a lawyer, so I do not
have a high opinion of = lawyers.

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE08D2.89497680-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:43:08 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25723 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id ADD2790250; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:42:58 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105154716.00fabd20@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:47:46 -0500 To: Ray , DCCycles List From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Looking for Dutch translator! In-Reply-To: <19981105200030.13758.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:00 PM 11/5/98 , Ray wrote: >Anyone read and write Dutch, or have contact with any Netherlands >embassy or consulate employees? I need some translating done. >Ray you might try babelfish.altavista.digital.com Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 16:23:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26424 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:23:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05184 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06616 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA02149; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105212203.WWNJ649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:22:03 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , , , Subject: RE: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:20:20 -0500 Message-ID: <002b01be0902$17cdcb20$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981105200416.17616.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal Sure, I've heard of Woodstock, but I was a little young to understand or care about it. Isn't that where a bunch of drug adled hippies decided to stand around in mud and cow shit and play at a 'luv in'? Saw some film footage of it. Bunch of grinning, dirty, hairy hippies pretending they were making some sort of impact on American culture. Now they're ambulance chasers and businessmen/women. ;) Todd (pass the bong, and the LSD, and the daisies....whooooaa, ooooo the colors) > > Joan Baez dedicated the song "Drug Store Truck Drivin Man" to Ronald > Ray-Gun (her pronunciation) at Woodstock in August 1969 which was held > on Max Yasgurs farm in upstate New York miles and miles from > Woodstock. Are you some kind of pinko commie that doesn't know about > Woodstock? Everybody knows about Woodstock! > Ray > > > > > ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > > > > Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. > Must > > be a southern Thang! > > > > Todd > > > > Ray L. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > > When summer comes rolling around > > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece > of > > > history. > > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 16:43:16 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26795 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05499 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.us.pw.com (known pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07347 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:43:06 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA09752; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:44:20 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma009513; Thu, 5 Nov 98 16:43:33 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y008GSXMWH3@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.0076E66E ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:38:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:40:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... To: LungHD@XXXXXX Cc: shephar1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.0076E95C.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that means that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't sell to you. Is that just a myth? --chris To: shephar1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: LungHD@XXXXXX Date: 11/05/98 08:21:43 PM GMT Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... In a message dated 98-11-05 13:33:36 EST, you write: snip << Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. >> unsnip Geez! Sorry to hear that your local HD dealer hasn't been arrested for robbery. I'd definitely take my business to another HD dealer! (AND let dealer #1 know about it after you pick up your new bike.) I picked up my FLSTF (after a 3 yr. wait) with no premium for the -"priviledge"- of waiting! :-( Seems our local dealer knows that a happy customer is also one who will return to buy all those accessories & for service. Why screw people & lose customers?! I guess they figure if they get 5,000 people one time that's an extra $100,000 profit. Sounds like he used to be a used car salesman. Hang in there & go elsewhere. Lung ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:06:10 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27207 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06136 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08307 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA22871; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052206.RAA22871@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:16:11 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <000801be08dd$7a515de0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anyone riding? On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:58:11 -0500, Ken wrote: >Sorry LBB. Dont expect anything near 60 on Saturday. Weather willbe much >like today, its currently 37 degrees, and the high on saturday is the same >as todays at 45 degrees with a low of 26. Same again for Sunday, then a bit >warmer with rain forecast for Monday. Wah. Wah. Wah. I like the Heyser's motto: "Shut Up and Ride" Lee, you need to toughen up a little. :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:07:18 1998 Return-Path: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: from ams.amsinc.com (ams.amsinc.com [162.70.244.20]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27227 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:07:17 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com (ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com [162.70.34.52]) by ams.amsinc.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id RAA22234 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 852566B3.00796723 ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:02 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B3.0078A0FC.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:57:31 -0500 Subject: FYA: We all knew it was coming... (non-m/c) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Just a little something FYA, since we're so political on this newsgroup, heh heh heh ;-) ---------------------- Forwarded by Douglas Brashear/AMS/AMSINC on 11/05/98 04:48 PM --------------------------- -----Original Message----- We all knew this was coming. For those that don't understand, Jesse "The Body" Ventura was elected as Governor of the state of Minnesota. The Top 13 Changes Under a Government Run by Pro Wrestlers 13. Driving your fellow Congressman into the turnbuckle now considered acceptable method of ending a filibuster. 12. President now shouts entire State of the Union address with his face 18 inches from TV camera. 11. IRS audit replaced by more efficient reverse body slam onto enema. 10. Government becomes a charade of meaningless noises and lots of posturing by a bunch of inarticulate losers with no class or manners-Hey, wait a minute... 9. Free school lunches destined for the needy instead go to the biggest, meanest, stupidest kid in each school. 8. Sex scandals now involve even skankier women. 7. January 20: Inauguration ceremonies - January 21: FDA approves over-the-counter sale of steroids 6. Newt Gingrich is finally able to wear his mask and cape out of the house. 5. During House debate, it is acceptable to yield to the gentleman wielding a folding chair. 4. Difficult finding interns willing to accommodate an entire pouch of Skoal. 3. Strom Thurmond *finally* removed by The Undertaker. 2. Line to bodyslam Ken Starr winds around Lincoln Memorial. 1. Before: Mr. Vice President After: Stone Cold Al Gore From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:19:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27380 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:19:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06357 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08973 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:18:59 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:18:49 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:17:36 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: LungHD@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, shephar1@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline That's a myth. A lot of the bigger dealers advertise in the back of Easyriders to sell bikes to anyone from anywhere. Joe >>> - 11/5/98 4:40 PM >>> Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that means that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't sell to you. Is that just a myth? --chris To: shephar1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: LungHD@XXXXXX Date: 11/05/98 08:21:43 PM GMT Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... In a message dated 98-11-05 13:33:36 EST, you write: snip << Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. >> unsnip Geez! Sorry to hear that your local HD dealer hasn't been arrested for robbery. I'd definitely take my business to another HD dealer! (AND let dealer #1 know about it after you pick up your new bike.) I picked up my FLSTF (after a 3 yr. wait) with no premium for the -"priviledge"- of waiting! :-( Seems our local dealer knows that a happy customer is also one who will return to buy all those accessories & for service. Why screw people & lose customers?! I guess they figure if they get 5,000 people one time that's an extra $100,000 profit. Sounds like he used to be a used car salesman. Hang in there & go elsewhere. Lung ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:35:52 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27702 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA09639; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:35:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052235.RAA09639@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Bikes R Us" , "christopher.meier@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "gixer@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:45:51 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <852566B3.005DC592.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:05:50 -0500, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >Also ... Kmart, Target, Sunny's Surplus, most hunting and fishing stores, >Modells, Sports Authority, probably REI, etc. >You all aren't having a tough time finding these are you? The original >post stated that they we not able to be found at PX/BXs, not that they >couldn't be found. When I was trying to get my old Suzuki inspected, I could not find my orange vest. My wife has a blue reflective vest (with more reflective stuff than my orange one), but the DoD reg states that it must be orange. I also applied reflective strips to my backpack. The old suzuki does not have saddlebags, etc, and I wear my backpack with it (right over the reflective vest). The backpack alone was not enough, but it was ok to cover up the vest..... I can never figure out military intelligence.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:47:13 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27823 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06695 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA09740 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16532; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052247.RAA16532@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "NJitzul@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:36:11 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sat. Ride... Meeting? On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:05 EST, NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: >Lee, about how long will it take to get from exit 32 to Hagerstown? If you >leave there at 9, whould you be there by 11? I was thinking that we could all >meet at Twigg Cycles off Rt 40. I can swing down to Leesburg to meet Hugh >around 9, ride to Urbana to meet Marvin around 10 and take 40 W ALT to >Hagerstown with plenty of time for refueling and such. > >Hugh, where's a good place to meet off of Rt 7 or 15 in Leesburg? > >Marvin, how about we meet at the Firestation in Urbana? So tenish. That means I can sleep in, and then leave at about 0930. I'm in Wheaton, and it should take me about 20 or so minutes to ride out to Urbana, and 5 or so minutes to find the fire station. Is it on 355? I'll be riding in by way of 80 (unless you know a more convenient place for you). Snake ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:47:18 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27826 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16579; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052247.RAA16579@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "christopher.meier@XXXXXX" , "Ray" Cc: "DCCycles List" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:55:32 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19981105171154.24587.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DC Traffic blocked by jumper On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:11:54 -0800 (PST), Ray wrote: >It's probably faster by bike, but not by Ford supercab longbed pickup, >especially when the street sign I was looking for was missing. You should try it in a F-350 crew cab 4x4. That's why I tend to only take the bikes into the city. Besides, have you ever tried to parallel park a truck with a 168 inch (Collin that's 4.27 meters; and the rest of you, that's 14 feet) wheelbase. Not to mention the fact that a 1-ton 4x4 will beat the hell out of you on a rough city road. I'll stick to the bikes in town. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:54:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27950 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06826 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA09924 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20126; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:54:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052254.RAA20126@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Dave Wakefield" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:04:25 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19981105181935.12741.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:19:35 -0800 (PST), Dave Wakefield wrote: >I'm writing to say that I got ERC instructor- >certified through MD's motorcycle safety program >last weekend in Glen Burnie, and I'd like to drop >by Saturday to help or simply watch the veteran >instructors teach the course. Ok, I'll show my ignorance (I am from Idaho, it is allowed). What is ERC???? My guess it is an "Experienced Rider's Course". Am I right? Do I need to take a basic course first? Idaho kind of treats these things like the cages.... If you have the balls to try and drive it, all you need is a driver's license (actually, Idaho has become the 50th state to have a motorcycle license this year). I love the sign "Welcome to Idaho: Set Your Clocks Back 30 Years" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 18:02:50 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA28089 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:02:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA24310; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:02:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052302.SAA24310@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles" , "Ken" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:12:52 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <013b01be08e9$9ba904a0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:25:01 -0500, Ken wrote: > Personaly I am glad the Yamaha clones are out there, as well as all the >others. I really hope Polaris and Triumpg, and Guzzi starrt taking bites >out of the market. Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there >production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on >Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. But, with the new motor HD has finally entered the 20th century! I'll stick with my ACE. When I was in HS the harleys were the biggest pieces of shit (can you say AMF) on the road. I am still biased against them. What I would like is a '40's Indian Scout or Chief. I know, I am dreaming. The new KZ is styled after the Indian with its full fenders. Some of the prototypes have been BEAUTIFUL (the Cobra one gives me a hard on). The one in my latest Motorcyclist mag has an ugly seat, but to their credit, it states that there will be changes, especially in the seat. I love the looks of the ACE, but now I have a regret that I should have waited. Now, if I could only convince my wife that I need three motorcycles......... Maybe I could give the ACE to her..... :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 18:20:40 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA28427 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA07279 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (known imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA10575 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 0Ba0002328; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:18:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <14257570.3642325f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:18:55 EST To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 << Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that means that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't sell to you. Is that just a myth?>> Don't know for sure about that. Heard that story about someone else who wanted to make a cash buy of a Road King. What I do know is that the world's largest HD dealership in Texas offers a Fly & Ride program & will sell to anyone & finances as well. Barnet?/Bartell? HD I think. I'll check & get back to ya on the name. I know they do have a website. Lung From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 18:46:04 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA28759 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-118-58.s58.tnt13.brd.erols.com [207.172.118.58]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07212 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:45:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002a01be091e$c25e9580$3a76accf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: poss missing bike... Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:45:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Hey folks, I just left the DMV....and passed a black sport (poss VFR or FZR) going other direction......the reason I think it might be stolen is the guy was flying and wearing a t-shirt and jeans....oh yeah black helmet too.....Hopefully its just some guy from Wisconsin or somewhere really cold and he is really tough.....He was headed west on Columbia Pike a lil after 5 o'clock.....Les Kat 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 20:30:26 1998 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00467 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:30:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from LJTanner (207-172-70-118.s118.tnt11.brd.erols.com [207.172.70.118]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13226 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:30:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Linda Tanner" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Law Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: <002501be0925$093598e0$b634accf@LJTanner.arl.mci.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981105101536.00fd4c40@mail.toward.com> Importance: Normal In England, everything is permitted except that which is expressly forbidden. In Germany, everything is forbidden except that which is expressly permitted. In Russia, everything is forbidden including that which is expressly permitted. In France, everything is permitted including that which is expressly forbidden. In the US, everything is permitted except that which endangers national security. Keep smiling. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (52K miles and counting) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 21:07:55 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm01sm.pmm.cw.net (pm01sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00966 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:07:53 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr42-dialup56.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.77.120]) by PM01SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33505) with SMTP id <0F1Z00HGV9VS02@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 02:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:09:15 -0500 Subject: Re: The estimate is in . . . part one To: DC Cycles Message-id: <020b01be092a$76c745c0$444c37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Seesh, I'm glad I have a shop that's competent, quick and friendly.. > >Brian Exactly why I like to do all my own wrenching, well, being a mechanic kinda makes it easier............. Jon From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 21:22:26 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01187 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.37]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:09:19 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule - LAST YEARS IMPRESSIONS Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:13:27 -0500 Message-ID: <004a01be092b$0a220d00$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <199811051652.LAA21651@meretrix.com> Angie says we have to visit family. There's nothing to do at their house. Kill two birds with one stone:) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Kirk, Colleen and I went last year.. I must say, it was - well.. > it was ok. > Something worth doing maybe once every 4~5 years. Mostly, it was > something > to do with one day of a weekend. Yea, it was nice walking around > and seeing > the new bikes, but it wasn't any kind of a big deal. > > I really hope people enjoy the show.. but it just wasn't > interesting enough > to warrent a trip into that city (or any city) to see again.. > (yea, I got to > see the new R1 last year.. and the Polaris.. but, again.. whoopee). > > Brian > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 21:58:08 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.151]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01687 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:58:06 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr25-dialup50.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.73.50]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F1Z00KPGC7PAR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 02:57:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:59:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Inter Moto Show NY -heheh To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <026301be0931$80fc04c0$444c37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: >> Ill go up there! Its a success as long as I get to see the Suz GSX1300R. Oh >> man, Id kill for one of them things. Colemans has already sold 4 of em and >> they arent even available until April! > >...pan to Kirk jumping to safety (flamesuit at the cleaners)... > Your jumping..........I'm running and I don't use a flamesuit, I just stop, drop and roll...hehe Jon"some people scare me" From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 00:28:33 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03651 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:28:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12033 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA17642 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:28:28 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6XOVa03290; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:27:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3ba9c509.364288bc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:27:24 EST To: tl1000s@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TRADE OF THE CENTURY... cant beat this deal. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Willing to Trade - 1993 Honda Nighthawk 750 for a Dunlop D207 190/50zr17 or a 180/55zr17 (mounting and balancing would be nice ;). Anyway, before anyone asks what am I thinking, or whats wrong with the bike... not a whole lot. i just got a flat for the third time on my bike after its been in the shop for a month., on the way home from work, tire goes down, bike feels incredibly loose while on a bridge, pull over, goes flat, push for 2 miles, get ride....etc...etc... Now I dont have much loot to buy and wait for a tire, and this nighthawk has been sitting outback of my moms house under a cover for almost a year. so, if anyone needs abike and has this tire.. lemme know. PLEASE!!!! Sean "Going a little nutz after all these years".... 98 Suzuki TLmoneypitR From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 00:29:27 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA03654 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA13948; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:25:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:03:35 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <013b01be08e9$9ba904a0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ken wrote: > that. Its time these dealers started acting like salespeople attempting to > provide a service. The closest I have come to a Harley dealer that > actuallywas trying to sell bikes was a Buell dealer and I am at the point > that if I decide to trade my bike in eventually, it will definitely be for a > Buell, noy a HD. They at least act like they are interested in trying to > sell you a bike. Buell dealers have to kiss ass to sell bikes.Name another brand where you can find their flagship sportbike sitting on the floor for $2.5k under MSRP...the Fall before the model year? Personally,I have no regrets paying a $1.4k premium on my Dyna.At least now I own a motorcycle and not a joke. > Fo now unless things improve though, I expect to buy a > Kawasaki to supplement the Sportster, instead of a second Sportster, before > going and trading the Sportster in for a Buell. Ken,Ken,Ken.Stay off the Buells man!You and everyone else looking at those clockwork horrors.If you want to blow a bunch of money on self- abuse,hook up with a dominatrix. > And the main factor in this > decision is the lousy salesmanship at the local HD dealers. Harley dealers aren't the only ones.A certain place in Falls Church comes to mind.After the experiences my Dad had with the dealer in Waldorf,he gives all his business to his old dealer back in PA(Dad lives in St Mary's County). The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 00:34:36 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03713 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12087 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (known imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA17714 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:34:31 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6SSBa19214; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:33:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8175255.36428a17@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:33:11 EST To: tl1000s@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TRADE DEAL..... Location Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Its in Arnold MD, USA. Just outside of annapolis off of Ritchie Hwy(Rt.2north). My number is 410-757-5984, or 410-216-8428. Sean... From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 04:48:48 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA08319 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA15613; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:45:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:40:21 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > >>> - 11/5/98 4:40 PM >>> > Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that > means > that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't > sell > to you. > Is that just a myth? On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, JOE NAGY wrote: > That's a myth. A lot of the bigger dealers advertise in the back of > Easyriders to sell bikes to anyone from anywhere. It's real.I looked into trading the Fat Boy in on a Dyna at the dealer that presented it to me.They wouldn't go for it because I wasn't in their area(but they accepted $1k from Visa to present me with it).They said that every time they sell outside their area,they get one less bike alotted to them the next year. Some dealers will sell outside their area,but they charge extra to make up for it.They lose bikes,but because orders and production go up,they can afford it.I've also heard of dealers that have you set up a mailbox at the local Post Office so you'll qualify. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 05:20:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA08774 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA15002 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA20565 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-111-233.s233.tnt1.ann.erols.com (207-172-111-233.s233.tnt1.ann.erols.com [207.172.111.233]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA22269; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:20:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061020.FAA22269@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "Ray" Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 05:30:41 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: local elections > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > history. > Ray (seven years old in August '69) You're Old!!!!!! :) I was only six years old in August '69. Snake ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 06:43:39 1998 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA09790 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:43:37 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3DYQa04134 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:42:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8c17799f.3642e0b8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:42:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: **SATURDAY RIDE** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 If you're an AOL subscriber, this will look OK, if not, you may have lots of code. The "Arch Run" out of Hagerstown, MD Hookup: 10:00 a.m. Firehouse off 355 (Urbana) (for directions contact NJITZUL, Rob) Hookup: 11:00 a.m. Twigg's Cycle, Rt. 40 (Hagerstown) Captain Rob (NJITZUL) will be leading. Please confirm your arrival with NJITZUL so he knows to wait for you! It's going to be nippy, so dress warmly!! Look forward to meeting you all! Ride Safely, Lee From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 07:36:18 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10487 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:36:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061236.HAA10487@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:36:13 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: **SATURDAY RIDE** Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:33:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) I need to be HOME by 5pm.. so hopefully this ride is on a shorter order.. or perhaps we can bump back the times a little bit (I 'sleep in' till 7am on weekends.. what happens when you get up at 5am every weekday). Any clue/idea? Oh, and Snake.. I'm sure we'll be seeing each other in Urbana.. I'm on a blue 87 VFR sportbike.. black full tankbra and upper fairing cover (also black). Oh.. Black Vanson jacket and Arai lid.. yea, I know..I'll look for the guy with the red face and 1/2 lid.. :P Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX [mailto:LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 6:43 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: **SATURDAY RIDE** > > > If you're an AOL subscriber, this will look OK, if not, you > may have lots of > code. > The "Arch Run" out of Hagerstown, MD > Hookup: 10:00 a.m. Firehouse off 355 (Urbana) > (for directions contact NJITZUL, Rob) > Hookup: 11:00 a.m. Twigg's Cycle, Rt. 40 (Hagerstown) > > Captain Rob (NJITZUL) will be leading. > Please confirm your arrival with NJITZUL so he knows to wait for you! > It's going to be nippy, so dress warmly!! > Look forward to meeting you all! > Ride Safely, Lee > From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 08:48:23 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11428 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.66.214]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981106134629.OFSJ16188@wotan> for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:29 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: "MC DC Cycles Submit" Subject: Cold weather Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:46:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000501be098b$e90b7960$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I wore an electric vest on a recent cold (40F) day and was fine. However, the vest has direct current flowing through it which creates a magnetic field which causes part of me to point north. From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 08:51:08 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11505 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:51:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Marvin Heilesen'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:50:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't rub it in ... (:=DE Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [mailto:cfagan@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 9:34 AM To: 'Marvin Heilesen'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Ahhhhh, and people make fun of the CG for being Department of Transportation!!!! he he he.... There are a few commands that try to = get you to wear a vest, but they are few and far between... You do have to have = an MSF card to get a sticker on the bike though. However, all you have to = do is flash a mil id and they'll let you on withou the sticker!! I just = had Pen go in and get the sticker for the gsxr (which never got mounted...) cause she had an MSF card...I've never taken it (oops, I wasn't = supposed to tell that)... The other good thing about being DOT, was when the budget stuff was all = in a turmoil and DOD folks weren't sure if they were going to be getting paychecks or not...Our budget was already approved..no worries about if = the checks would come.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marvin Heilesen [SMTP:snake69@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 8:39 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military >=20 > > As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the = Navy.The > >Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. >=20 > It's a DoD policy. The only difference is the > enforcement. >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 08:52:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11517 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA16808 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23234 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:52:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA03140; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:51:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3642FE33.56D34835@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:48:35 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Heilesen CC: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199811052254.RAA20126@smtp1.erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you need the course for insurance purposes, check with your insurance company. As a beginner course instructor, I'd prefer that you go to the experienced rider course. People that already know how to ride intimidate some of the real beginners. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:19:35 -0800 (PST), Dave Wakefield > wrote: > > >I'm writing to say that I got ERC instructor- > >certified through MD's motorcycle safety program > >last weekend in Glen Burnie, and I'd like to drop > >by Saturday to help or simply watch the veteran > >instructors teach the course. > > Ok, I'll show my ignorance (I am from Idaho, it is > allowed). What is ERC???? My guess it is an "Experienced > Rider's Course". Am I right? Do I need to take a basic > course first? > > Idaho kind of treats these things like the cages.... If you > have the balls to try and drive it, all you need is a > driver's license (actually, Idaho has become the 50th state > to have a motorcycle license this year). > > I love the sign "Welcome to Idaho: Set Your Clocks Back 30 > Years" > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 08:53:49 1998 Return-Path: jstpeter@XXXXXX Received: from server.va.chesapeake-systems.com (machine01.intelx.com [209.117.191.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11527 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by machine01.intelx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:51:58 -0500 Received: from th-2-4.patriot.net by server.va.chesapeake-systems.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id WJR0PMC0; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:26:10 -0500 Message-ID: <364249FC.B00AE460@intelx.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 19:59:40 -0500 From: "Jay St. Peter" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Music Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some of you obviously didn't grow up with real music ... That's right, long hair and spandex the '80s rule From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:04:33 1998 Return-Path: wes@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11643 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA26548 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:05:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981106085820.00aa6470@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:04:49 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: wes Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... -Reply In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is another reason why I'm not interested in HD bikes. They attach so much garbage to the purchase process (premiums, waiting, "turf") that it's only worth it if you're a die-hard and you just gotta have an HD. The whole way Gil got his is pretty cool (the only thing I ever won was a t-shirt), with the trading-it-in for the bike he really wanted...I suppose if I had been in the same situation I'd have done the same thing... I'm not trying to start another "HDs suck because" or "HDs rule because" flame-fest. I've ridden 2 HDs and found them both to be competent bikes. Of course, it was kind of like other people's kids...maybe I liked them OK because I got to give them back... --w >They said that every time they sell outside their area,they >get one less bike alotted to them the next year. ...in accordance with prophecy... http://shadow.newspeak.org/ wes@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB750 "Extra Sled" What do you want? A political statement? From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:06:02 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11641 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:04:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061404.JAA11641@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:03:57 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Cold weather Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:56:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) I'm afraid to ask which part... > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert L Moody [mailto:robmoody@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 8:47 AM > To: MC DC Cycles Submit > Subject: Cold weather > > > I wore an electric vest on a recent cold (40F) day and was > fine. However, > the vest has direct current flowing through it which creates > a magnetic > field which causes part of me to point north. > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:07:01 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11731 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16983 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23501 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: accident Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Bob Hill and his new wife, Betty, were vacationing in Europe, as = it > > >happens in Transylvania. They were driving a rental car along a > > >rather deserted highway. It was late, and raining very hard. Bob > > >could barely see 10 feet in front of the car. Suddenly the car = skids > > >out of control! Bob attempts to control the car, but to no avail! = > > >The car swerves and smashes into a tree. > > > > > > Moments later, Bob shakes his head to clear the fog. Dazed, he > > >looks over at the passenger seat and sees his new wife = unconscious, > > >with her head bleeding! Despite the rain and unfamiliar = countryside, > > >Bob knows he has to carry her to the nearest phone. Bob carefully > > >picks his wife up and begins trudging down the road. After a = short > > >while, he sees a light. He heads towards the light, which is = coming > > >from an old, large house. He approaches the door and knocks. A = minute > > >passes. A small, hunched man opens the door. Bob immediately = blurts, > > >"Hello, my name is Bob Hill, and this is my wife, Betty. We've = been > > >in a terrible accident, and my wife has been seriously hurt. Can = I > > >please use your phone??" "I'm sorry," replies the hunchback, "but = we > > >don't have a phone. My master is a doctor. Come in and I will get > > >him." Bob brings his wife in. An elegant man comes down the = stairs. > > >"I'm afraid my assistant may have misled you. I am not a medical > > >doctor. I am a scientist. However, it is many miles to the = nearest > > >clinic, and I have had basic medical training. I will see what I = can > > >do. Igor, bring them down to the laboratory." > > > > > > With that, Igor picks up Betty and carries her downstairs, with = Bob > > >following closely. Igor places Betty on a table in the lab. Bob > > >collapses from exhaustion and his own injuries; so Igor places Bob = on > > >an adjoining table. After a brief examination, Igor's master looks > > >worried. > > > > > > "Things are serious, Igor. Prepare a transfusion." Igor and = his > > >master work feverishly, but to no avail. Bob and Betty Hill are = no > > >more. The Hills' deaths upsets Igor's master greatly. Wearily, = he > > >climbs the steps to his conservatory, which houses his pipe organ. = > > >For it is here that he has always found solace. He begins to = play, > > >and a stirring, almost haunting melody fills the house. > > > > > > Meanwhile, Igor is still in the lab tidying up. As the music = fills > > >the lab, his eyes catch movement, and he notices the fingers on = Betty > > >Hill's hand twitch. Stunned, he watches as Bob's arm begins to = rise!=20 > > >He is further amazed as Betty sits straight up! Unable to contain > > >himself, > > >he dashes up the stairs to the conservatory. He bursts in and = shouts > > >to his master, > > >>=20 > > >> (Don't page down unless you have a strong stomach...) > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> You sure you want to know? > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> You really, really want to know? > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> OK, you asked for it!!!!!!!!! > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> keep going............... > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> "Master, Master!......The Hills are alive with the sound of = music!" Gotcha! :^=DE Mitch >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:22:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11929 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17152 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23846 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:21:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I don't write them..... > 1 . Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, but when they lit a fire > in the craft it sank-proving once and for all that you can't have your > kayak and heat it, too. > > 2. Two boll weevils grew up in South Carolina. One went to Hollywood and > became a famous actor. The other stayed behind in the cotton fields and > never amounted to much. The second one, naturally, became known as the > lesser of two weevils. > > 3. A three-legged dog walks into a saloon in the Old West. He sidles up > to the bar and announces: "I'm looking for the man who shot my paw." > > 4. This guy goes into a restaurant for a Christmas breakfast while in > his home town for the holidays. After looking over the menu he > says,"I'll just have the eggs Benedict." > > His order comes a while later and it's served on a big, shiny hubcap. > He asks the waiter, "What's with the hubcap?" > > The waiter says, "Well, there's no plate like chrome for the > hollandaise." > > 5. When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. > > 6. A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a > beer?" > > The bartender replies, "For you, no charge." > > 7. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused his dentist's Novocaine > during root canal work? He wanted to transcend dental medication. > > 8. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing > in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. > > After about an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them > to disperse. > > "But why?" they asked, as they moved off. > > "Because," he said, "I can't stand chess nuts boasting in an open > foyer." > > 9. A doctor made it his regular habit to stop off at a bar for a > hazelnut daiquiri on his way home. The bartender knew of his habit, and > would always have the drink waiting at precisely 5:03 p.m. One > afternoon, as the end of he work day approached, the bartender was > dismayed to find that he was out of hazelnut extract. Thinking quickly, > he threw together a daiquiri made with hickory nuts and set it on the > bar. The doctor came in at his regular time, took one sip of the drink > and exclaimed, "This isn't a hazelnut daiquiri!" > > "No, I'm sorry," replied the bartender, "it's a hickory daiquiri, doc." > > 10. A hungry lion was roaming through the jungle looking for something > to eat. He came across two men. One was sitting under a tree and reading > a book; the other was typing away on his typewriter. > > The lion quickly pounced on the man reading the book and devoured him. > > Even the king of the jungle knows that readers digest and writers cramp. > > 11. There was a man who entered a local paper's pun contest. He sent in > ten different puns, in the hope that at least one of the puns would win. > Unfortunately, no pun in ten did. > > 12. A guy goes to a psychiatrist. "Doc, I keep having these alternating > recurring dreams. First I'm a tepee; then I'm a wigwam; then I'm a > tepee; then I'm a wigwam. It's driving me crazy. What's wrong with me?" > > The doctor replies: "It's very simple. You're two tents." From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:22:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11939 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17162 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23864 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:22:44 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:22:35 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 10:21:24 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: LungHD@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Barnett in El Paso, Texas. >>> - 11/5/98 6:18 PM >>> << Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that means that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't sell to you. Is that just a myth?>> Don't know for sure about that. Heard that story about someone else who wanted to make a cash buy of a Road King. What I do know is that the world's largest HD dealership in Texas offers a Fly & Ride program & will sell to anyone & finances as well. Barnet?/Bartell? HD I think. I'll check & get back to ya on the name. I know they do have a website. Lung From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:25:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11962 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17194 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23915 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Ray'" , Todd Peer , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Ah, but you're age is really showing now. I was teaching a junior high school class recently, and telling them about watching Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. I just got blank stares; sheesh, they weren't even born by the last moon visit! Going thru my second mid-life crisis ... Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:04 PM To: Todd Peer; Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections Joan Baez dedicated the song "Drug Store Truck Drivin Man" to Ronald Ray-Gun (her pronunciation) at Woodstock in August 1969 which was held on Max Yasgurs farm in upstate New York miles and miles from Woodstock. Are you some kind of pinko commie that doesn't know about Woodstock? Everybody knows about Woodstock! Ray ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. Must > be a southern Thang! > > Todd > > Ray L. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > When summer comes rolling around > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > > history. > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:27:11 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12046 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:26:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'2xracers@XXXXXX'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:26:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Uh, oh. Getting more interesting by the minute. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: 2xracers@XXXXXX [mailto:2xracers@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:12 PM To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:36:04 -0500, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >1) does the $960/32 = $30 include gas? >2) do you need a CDL (or other variant) to drive a 47 passenger bus? The $960.00 includes *everything* -- bus, DRIVER, tolls, gas, parking, etc. Sorry to be so confusing about this... it's been one of those days. The bus would be a "motor coach" with bathroom, VCR and TV, card tables, a/c (need that in January!), etc. Anita (15 passenger van maybe, 47 passenger bus? No way!) From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:46:11 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12278 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:46:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061446.JAA12278@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:42:27 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:39:37 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) GROAN!! From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:47:36 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12298 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:46:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Jay St. Peter'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Music Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:46:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Oh, puhleeze! Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Jay St. Peter [mailto:jstpeter@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 8:00 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Music Some of you obviously didn't grow up with real music ... That's right, long hair and spandex the '80s rule From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:48:43 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12316 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:50:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:49:39 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: snake69@XXXXXX, bike.dealer@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gixer@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline What's to figure out? It's an oxymoron. Military Intelligence? Present = company excluded though. :-) Scooter >>> "Marvin Heilesen" 11/05/98 05:45PM >>> The backpack alone was not enough, but it was ok to cover up the vest..... I can never figure out military intelligence.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:57:45 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12490 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:56:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'McCoy, Brian NAB02'" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:56:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glad I could get your Friday off to such a positive start. :^=DE Mitch=20 -----Original Message----- From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [mailto:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 9:40 AM To: 'dc' Subject: RE: Punsville GROAN!! From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:58:11 1998 Return-Path: dccracing@XXXXXX Received: from geocities.com (mail8.geocities.com [209.1.224.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12500 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway-fincen.uscg.mil [209.48.193.3]) by geocities.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA27955; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:58:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <364300EC.99D95394@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:00:12 -0500 From: DC-Cycles Racing Reply-To: dccracing@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: EX500 list , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Stray electrons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Morning all, I was tinkering with my EX project bike last night now that it's all in more or less one piece (thank you mr. zip tie), but it's not getting any spark! :( Everything is connected properly to the wiring harness with the exception of the headlight and front turn signals. the kickstand switch is shorted across (although it'll crank with the wires open as well ???) The clutch switch is closed (working properly..pulled the clip and it quit cranking)..So what's left? It's baffling me.. There should be no reason it isn't firing away. Is there an internal clutch switch? (I don't have the clutch cable itself on there yet...) I'm at a loss... Thanks in advance Collin -- Collin Fagan CCS#210 - WERA#305 DC-Cycles racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ http://www.dc-cycles.org From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 10:19:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12798 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18037 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from portal1.visa.com (known portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25605 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:18:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id HAA11485 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:18:25 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:18:25 -0800 Message-Id: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF553507@sw730x023.visa.com> From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:18:40 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > 6. A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a > beer?" > > The bartender replies, "For you, no charge." Obviously not Quark's Bar... ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 10:44:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13279 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18466 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26383 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 10:38:45 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 10:38:21 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Punsville Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Another Deep Space Nine watcher comes out of the woodwork. :-) Scooter >>> "Jordan, Michael" 11/06/98 10:18AM >>> > 6. A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a > beer?" >=20 > The bartender replies, "For you, no charge." Obviously not Quark's Bar... ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 11:13:36 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13676 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 11:15:13 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 11:14:38 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: FYI - Helmets at Springfield Cycle Sport Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Went to pick up my new boots last night (Alpinestars GPS, VERY comfy) and = was looking at their helmets. They have some nice helmets on sale that = they only have one left of that particular model. Couple nice Arai's, = Shoei's and HJC'S. They have a NICE Black Shoei XSP, size Large for $415. = It's been there a while and they're trying to get rid of it. Last RF700 = I bought from them, it was the last one they had left AND on sale, they = took an extra $100 off. You might be able to so the same with this one. = If I didn't already have two helmets, and had an extra $400, I'd buy it. = I tried it on and it fit like my RF700 Medium, only lighter and comfier. = Mike said that the new Shoei's run a size smaller than the old ones. = Anyone interested in giving a Shoei a new home? Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 11:40:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14058 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19166 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28445 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:37 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WRQQa03291 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:00 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/6/98 8:58:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, mrider@XXXXXX writes: << If you need the course for insurance purposes, check with your insurance company. As a beginner course instructor, I'd prefer that you go to the experienced rider course. People that already know how to ride intimidate some of the real beginners. >> Hehehee, you dont think they'd be intimidated if I wheelied my way up to the stop line on the braking exercise do ya? Jack From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 11:47:31 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14190 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09590 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:48:30 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA149@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: Stray Electrons take two Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:48:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Grrr.. these silly bike manufacturers and the excuses they make for anti theft devices.... Suzuki uses a resistor in the bottom of the ignition, but a screwdriver will still start it. 94+ EX500's I jsut found out use a diode to limit voltage to the black box...but a screwdriver will still start it.. Why do the bike manufacturers think that someone stealing a bike is going to try and cut wires to hotwire it when all it takes is a hammer and punch/screwdriver... As I mentioned earlier, I was baffled at why the EX wasn't getting any spark. Since the 94 key that came with my box of parts was pretty mangled, I used an 89 model that was on my other one...grrrrr.. Surgery will commence tonight and hopefully that's the solution... CT From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 11:50:23 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14275 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06961 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:50:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199811061650.LAA06961@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:49:22 -0500 Subject: Update on Bus Trip to NYC Motorcycle Show Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) I've already got about sixteen people from dc-cycles interested in the bus trip to NY. That's enough for me to try to make it happen! Here are the details so far: Date: January 16, 1999 Time: Depart DC area at 8:00 am Depart NYC at 9:00 pm (arrive in DC area 1-2 am) Times approximate, will ask for feedback later Destination: Cycle World Int'l Motorcycle Show in NYC Cost: $30.00 for bus, $10.00 for show Who's invited: listmembers, SO's, kids, friends, neighbors, coworkers, anybody with $40! :-) Method of travel: charter bus with reclining seats, bathroom, TV/VCR, etc. I will make sure that carry on food and beverages are allowed. For more info on the show: www.motorcycleshows.com For more info on the charter bus company: www.nationalcoachinc.com My plan is to accumulate names and email addresses of interested parties. I need to have at least 32 people come to meet the $30.00 rate. The bus will hold up to 47. Once I have 40+ names I will send out an email with payment instructions. I have to pay the bus company by the end of December. If we don't get 32 paying passengers (including myself) by then, the trip will be cancelled. I do plan on publicizing this outside of dc-cycles (i.e. maybe CAMS, NOVAMGR, etc.) to make sure we get enough people. If you are interested in the trip and want to be added to my distribution list, please email me. I've already added everyone who has contacted me about the trip. Once I get enough people interested we will firm up pickup point, times, etc., and I will let you know where to send your checks. I will not actually deposit checks until I get 32 in hand. I don't think you'll find a better deal anywhere on a trip to NYC... and you'll get to spend the travel time talking with fellow motorcycle enthusiasts, rather than sweating over traffic on the NJ Turnpike! :-) Anita PS - You don't really need to "cc" the list when you reply... but if you do, please trim out my message! Otherwise, everyone will get real sick of reading about this trip, especially those folks on digest mode! Thanks! From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:10:18 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14521 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19636 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29476 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA08755; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:26 -0500 Message-ID: <36432CCA.FC1D999F@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 17:07:22 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not at all. That would be just enough reason for the instructor to ask you to leave the course. You would, of course, be welcome to observe the other students for the rest of the weekend. - Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > In a message dated 11/6/98 8:58:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mrider@XXXXXX writes: > > << If you need the course for insurance purposes, check with your insurance > company. As a beginner course instructor, I'd prefer that you go to the > experienced rider course. People that already know how to ride > intimidate some of the real beginners. >> > > Hehehee, you dont think they'd be intimidated if I wheelied my way up to the > stop line on the braking exercise do ya? > > Jack From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:20:54 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14665 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:19:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061719.MAA14665@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:15:02 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Sean and his Tire Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:12:14 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Anyone talk with Sean yet about trading the 207 for the Nighthawk? I mailed him, no reply.. called his home.. he's not there... Don't really want to call his work without his last name (anyone got that?) - but I'm not going to bother if someone else has already talked with him... Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:36:21 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15041 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:37:09 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:36:54 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sean and his Tire Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Haven't talked to him....go for it. His last name is Petr. Scooter >>> "McCoy, Brian NAB02" 11/06/98 = 12:12PM >>> Anyone talk with Sean yet about trading the 207 for the Nighthawk? I mailed him, no reply.. called his home.. he's not there... Don't really want to call his work without his last name (anyone got that?) - but I'm = not going to bother if someone else has already talked with him... Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:38:21 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15060 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20446 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01017 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:38 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WOTGa13873; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1722df0c.364333bf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:03 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX, tl1000s@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: HERES THE DEAL.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Ok, gotten more than enough responses, I am making a few phone calls on the people who I recieved messages from first... if they dont come through, Ill make my way through the list. I will keep all updated. please dont send any more mail or call until I can see what they want to do. I already have more mail than i can handle. Sean... From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:52:30 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15340 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:52:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:53:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:53:29 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: ERC Class Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm bringing the Oreo Double-Stuff cookies that our instructor requested. = Someone else will have to bring the Hot Chocolate. :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:10:56 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15576 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA21263; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:10:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061810.NAA21263@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: , Subject: Re: **SATURDAY RIDE** Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:10:11 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0986.C91DE5C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0986.C91DE5C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If you're an AOL subscriber, this will look OK, if not, you may have lots of > code. Looks fine to me. Are you sure that it's not just you??? > The "Arch Run" out of Hagerstown, MD > Hookup: 10:00 a.m. Firehouse off 355 (Urbana) > (for directions contact NJITZUL, Rob) > Hookup: 11:00 a.m. Twigg's Cycle, Rt. 40 (Hagerstown) > > Captain Rob (NJITZUL) will be leading. > Please confirm your arrival with NJITZUL so he knows to wait for you! > It's going to be nippy, so dress warmly!! > Look forward to meeting you all! I am finding it hard to believe that a southerner like you is going to venture out in the cold..... :) All I need to do now is find the Firehouse..... ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0986.C91DE5C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> If you're an AOL subscriber, this = will look OK, if not, you may have lots of
> code.

Looks fine to me.  Are you sure that it's not = just you???

> The "Arch Run" = out of Hagerstown, MD
> Hookup:  10:00 a.m.  Firehouse = off 355 (Urbana)
> (for directions contact NJITZUL, Rob)
> = Hookup:  11:00 a.m.  Twigg's Cycle, Rt. 40 = (Hagerstown)
>
> Captain Rob (NJITZUL) will be leading. =  
> Please confirm your arrival with NJITZUL so he knows to = wait for you!
> It's going to be nippy, so dress warmly!!
> = Look forward to meeting you all!

I am = finding it hard to believe that a southerner like you is
going to = venture out in the cold.....    :)

All I need to = do now is find the Firehouse.....

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0986.C91DE5C0-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:23:29 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15782 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:23:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061823.NAA15782@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:23:00 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: **SATURDAY RIDE** Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:16:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) hrm.. my parents had even met yet in 69...  what's that make me? -----Original Message----- Oh yeah, Ray's the old one.  He was seven in August of '69 while I was only six.   :) Snake From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:36:06 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15982 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by torrentnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20841 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA24173; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:17:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061817.NAA24173@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Subject: Re: **SATURDAY RIDE** Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:16:27 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0987.A8D02200" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0987.A8D02200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I need to be HOME by 5pm.. so hopefully this ride is on a shorter order.. or > perhaps we can bump back the times a little bit (I 'sleep in' till 7am on > weekends.. what happens when you get up at 5am every weekday). Any > clue/idea? I also sleep into almost 5:00am on weekdays. But, I sleep in to the same time of weekends, too. Too many years of feeding the livestock back home.... > Oh, and Snake.. I'm sure we'll be seeing each other in Urbana.. I'm on a > blue 87 VFR sportbike.. black full tankbra and upper fairing cover (also > black). Oh.. Black Vanson jacket and Arai lid.. yea, I know..I'll look for > the guy with the red face and 1/2 lid.. :P I do own a full face neck breaker. My wife wears it. I'll be on the black and white shadow ACE, windshield, saddle bags, and probably with my wife on the back. Just look for the person who looks like the old fart social deviant (that's me!). Oh yeah, Ray's the old one. He was seven in August of '69 while I was only six. :) Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0987.A8D02200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I need to be HOME by 5pm.. so = hopefully this ride is on a shorter order.. or
> perhaps we can = bump back the times a little bit (I 'sleep in' till 7am on
> = weekends.. what happens when you get up at 5am every weekday). =  Any
> clue/idea?

I also sleep = into almost 5:00am on weekdays.  But, I sleep in to
the same = time of weekends, too.  Too many years of feeding
the livestock = back home....

> Oh, and Snake.. =  I'm sure we'll be seeing each other in Urbana.. I'm on a
> = blue 87 VFR sportbike.. black full tankbra and upper fairing cover = (also
> black).  Oh.. Black Vanson jacket and Arai lid.. yea, = I know..I'll look for
> the guy with the red face and 1/2 lid.. = :P

I do own a full face neck breaker. =  My wife wears it.  I'll be on the
black and white shadow = ACE, windshield, saddle bags, and
probably with my wife on the back. =  Just look for the person who
looks like the old fart social = deviant (that's me!).  Oh yeah, Ray's
the old one.  He was = seven in August of '69 while I was only six. =   :)

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0987.A8D02200-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:43:05 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16113 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21275 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03653 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTD2VLEL; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:41:28 EST To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Punsville Message-ID: <19981105.103155.8095.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4-5,8-9,15-17,19,21-22,28-29,31,33-35 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:41:28 EST On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:21:26 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch" writes: >I don't write them..... I'm dying over here. I've heard some bad jokes in my time, but those are REALLY bad. If you've heard those, you must have heard this one: A man walks into a bar with a box under his arm, which he sets on the bar as he orders his beer. After a while, the bartender asks, "What's in the box?" For answer, the man opens the box and pulls out an exquisite miniature piano and a matching bench. Next he reaches into the box and pulls out a little man dressed in a tuxedo with tails. The little man walks across the bar and sits down at the piano and begins to play. He plays Chopin and Beethoven for several minutes while the surrounding customers and the bartender look on, dumbfounded. "Where'd you get that?!" exclaims the bartender. "I got him from a genie down on the corner who's granting wishes," replies the man. "Holy smoke!" says the bartender, and he leaps over the bar and races out into the street, leaving his post unguarded. A few minutes later, the bartender returns with a wide grin on his face. A duck flies through the open door, lands on the bar beside the bartender and quacks at him expectantly. Soon, another duck comes in, then another and another. Pretty soon, the bar is full of ducks, all of them quacking and flapping their wings, trying to get as close to the bartender as they can. The frustrated bartender shouts over the din, "Man, that genie must be deaf! I wished for a million BUCKS, not a million DUCKS!" "I know what you mean," says the man with the box. "You don't think I asked for a 12-inch pianist, do you?" JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:44:50 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop03.globecomm.net (pop03.globecomm.net [206.253.130.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16123 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop03.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA05766; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061843.NAA05766@pop03.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Jay St. Peter" , Subject: Re: Music Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:01 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE098B.5F5D3280" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE098B.5F5D3280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Some of you obviously didn't grow up with real music ... > That's right, long hair and spandex > the '80s rule Obviously. I have good taste in music. There has been very little good music released after 1975. Life as we knew ceased to exist when disco hit. ****** DISCO SUCKS ****** Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE098B.5F5D3280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Some of you obviously didn't grow = up with real music ...
> That's right, long hair and = spandex
> the '80s rule

Obviously. =  I have good taste in music.

There has been very little good = music released after 1975.  Life
as we knew ceased to exist = when disco hit.

=             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;      ****** DISCO SUCKS = ******

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE098B.5F5D3280-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:45:30 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16164 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTD232CC; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:44:59 EST To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: **SATURDAY RIDE** Message-ID: <19981105.103523.8095.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <199811061823.NAA15782@meretrix.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-4 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:44:59 EST On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:16:48 -0800 "McCoy, Brian NAB02" writes: >hrm.. my parents had even met yet in 69...  what's that make me? A baby... ;-) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:46:59 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16174 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21345 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03758 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'bike.dealer@XXXXXX'" , "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hey, wait a minute, I resemble that ... oops, never mind. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX [mailto:bike.dealer@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 1:41 PM To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Punsville On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:21:26 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch" writes: >I don't write them..... I'm dying over here. I've heard some bad jokes in my time, but those are REALLY bad. If you've heard those, you must have heard this one: A man walks into a bar with a box under his arm, which he sets on the bar as he orders his beer. After a while, the bartender asks, "What's in the box?" For answer, the man opens the box and pulls out an exquisite miniature piano and a matching bench. Next he reaches into the box and pulls out a little man dressed in a tuxedo with tails. The little man walks across the bar and sits down at the piano and begins to play. He plays Chopin and Beethoven for several minutes while the surrounding customers and the bartender look on, dumbfounded. "Where'd you get that?!" exclaims the bartender. "I got him from a genie down on the corner who's granting wishes," replies the man. "Holy smoke!" says the bartender, and he leaps over the bar and races out into the street, leaving his post unguarded. A few minutes later, the bartender returns with a wide grin on his face. A duck flies through the open door, lands on the bar beside the bartender and quacks at him expectantly. Soon, another duck comes in, then another and another. Pretty soon, the bar is full of ducks, all of them quacking and flapping their wings, trying to get as close to the bartender as they can. The frustrated bartender shouts over the din, "Man, that genie must be deaf! I wished for a million BUCKS, not a million DUCKS!" "I know what you mean," says the man with the box. "You don't think I asked for a 12-inch pianist, do you?" JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:49:05 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16184 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21366 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (known imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03811; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:48:58 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WQJVa17824; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:31 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX, tl1000s@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Nighthawk---- sold. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Thanks for all the inquries, Im sure my mom will be giddy with joy when she finds out its actually gone. The lucky taker - George Howell. He'll be by tonight. Just so everyone is aware, I responded to the first email I got, he was quick. if for some reason this doesnt go through, I'll let you all know. Sean... From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:01:21 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16382 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21564 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04132 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTD3ZCUL; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:01:00 EST To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: accident Message-ID: <19981105.105136.8151.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4-6 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:01:00 EST On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:08 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch LT writes: > "Master, Master!......The Hills are alive with the sound of music!" It takes a special kind of bad joke to smoothly segue from Frankenstein to The Sound of Music... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:02:52 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16392 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21595 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (known imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04170 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:45 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WQGHa03976 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <405c8f3e.364347b0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:08 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Geeze louise.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 If I woulda known he wanted to get rid of that thing that badly, I would've bought him front AND rears for that thing.....polished his rims too.....shoot. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:04:14 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16402 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21614 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04185 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:03:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'bike.dealer@XXXXXX'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: accident Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:03:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain OK, OK, I can take the hint. That's what happens when you get older -- you've heard all the dirty jokes, so the only thing left are the bad ones. Mitch BTW, I was one month shy of 10 during Woodstock, so based on the mailing list's definition of old, I'm ancient. -----Original Message----- From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX [mailto:bike.dealer@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 2:01 PM To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: accident On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:08 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch LT writes: > "Master, Master!......The Hills are alive with the sound of music!" It takes a special kind of bad joke to smoothly segue from Frankenstein to The Sound of Music... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:13:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16562 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21782 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04506 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:12:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: One more Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:12:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail 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//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////UgBv AG8AdAAgAEUAbgB0AHIAeQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAABYABQH//////////wMAAAAQjYFkm0/PEYbqAKoAuSnoAAAAAAEACQBAAxQAsGv8zGDSvQEV AQAAQAAAABkAI0NQAGkAYwB0AHUAcgBlAHMAAAAAEe4AAAAIAAcAAQEIAHBT0HeoU9B3uFPQdwAA AABAXLcBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEgACAf////8CAAAA/////wAAAAAAAAAABwAPAAEACQDwABQAOEK2 Aeo6aRCi2AgAKzAwnQAAAADa1wAAAAAAAEMAdQByAHIAZQBuAHQAIABVAHMAZQByAAAAHwDgT9Ag 6jppEKLYCAArMDCdGQAjQzpcAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAIA////////////////VhCAV2lubnQA AAAAaMC9AQgAIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACsAAAAAAAAABQBTAHUAbQBtAGEAcgB5AEkA bgBmAG8AcgBtAGEAdABpAG8AbgAAAMABFADAARQACAACAAEBCABwU9B3qFPQdygAAgEBAAAABQAA AP////8AAAAAAAAAAP7///8AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAoACgDjAAAA7FEAAAgBFABQAG8A dwBlAHIAUABvAGkAbgB0ACAARABvAGMAdQBtAGUAbgB0AAAAdCBDbGlwQXJ0IEdhbGxlcnkAEwAA 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-0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Subject: Re: ERC Class Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline For the classroom portion Saturday morning. I think doughnuts might be a = good idea also. Anyone want to bring some? Scooter >>> 11/06/98 01:41PM >>> To which class? --chris To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 cc: From: SCOTT Rush Date: 11/06/98 05:53:29 PM GMT Subject: ERC Class I'm bringing the Oreo Double-Stuff cookies that our instructor requested. Someone else will have to bring the Hot Chocolate. :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:21:31 1998 Return-Path: ehand@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16737 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA05052; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:20:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from enduser.faa.gov(204.108.10.1) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma005028; Fri Nov 6 13:20:41 1998 Message-ID: <36434BD4.8E54C7AC@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:19:48 -0500 From: Ehand X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles , loki@XXXXXX Subject: [Fwd: [Fwd: Sexual driving experience....]] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4BC28E3FAB92784381304A80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4BC28E3FAB92784381304A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is from the FJ list, it may expain sport bikes.... Ed 92 FJ1200 --------------4BC28E3FAB92784381304A80 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from server1.netpath.net (server1.netpath.net [205.139.153.15]) by ixmail4.ix.netcom.com (8.8.7-s-4/8.8.7/(NETCOM v1.01)) with ESMTP id IAA21346; ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:16:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by server1.netpath.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id LAA08290 for yamahafj-outgoing; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:16:33 -0500 Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by server1.netpath.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA08278 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:16:27 -0500 Received: from mediaone.net (jsurette.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.120.13]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA12032; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:13:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3643214C.A1F75054@mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 11:18:55 -0500 From: Jeff Surette X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SportRiders , FJ List Subject: [Fwd: Sexual driving experience....] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-yamahafj@XXXXXX Precedence: bulk Reply-To: yamahafj@XXXXXX I thought you might enjoy this (came from team.net list). Probably applies to motorcycles as well. > >"The passion most clearly linked with the automobile ... is purely >sexual ... As a human body accelerates, nerves and muscles all over >the body react. Signals are sent through the spinal cord, which in >turn increases muscle tone, particularly in areas such as the neck, >that are most affected by acceleration forces. This vastly increases >the body's state of arousal.' > >"The central nervous system translates this arousal into a number of >emotions. For some people it is pure fear. Others perceive this >basic emotional state as intensely pleasurable. The fear and the >state of alertness are still there, but they have been mastered. >Acceleration is under one's control, and the result is a flush of >emotion that some liken to orgasm." > > -Peter Marsh and Peter Collett, psychologists at > Oxford University and authors of the book "Driving > Passion: The Psychology of the Car," in an article > in Psychology Today. -- ---------------------------------------------- Jeff Surette 89 FJ1200 http://people.ne.mediaone.net/jsurette ---------------------------------------------- --------------4BC28E3FAB92784381304A80-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:31:34 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16920 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id OAA01173 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:31:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061931.OAA01173@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: Update on Bus Trip to NYC Motorcycle Show Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:30:38 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0992.0613F900" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0992.0613F900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've already got about sixteen people from dc-cycles interested in > the bus trip to NY. That's enough for me to try to make it happen! > Here are the details so far: > > Date: January 16, 1999 Sorry. I'm scheduled to ski that weekend. Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0992.0613F900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I've already got about sixteen = people from dc-cycles interested in
> the bus trip to NY. =  That's enough for me to try to make it happen!  
> Here = are the details so far:
>
> Date:  January 16, = 1999

Sorry.  I'm scheduled to ski = that weekend.

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0992.0613F900-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:35:46 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA17048 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:35:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981106193725.14449.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.41.154] by send203.yahoomail.com; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 11:37:25 PST Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:37:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? To: "Jordan, Michael" , DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On BSAs I'm looking for a good local parts source for parts in general and a Euro-style tank for an A65 for a friends bike. Anyone know who that MERIDN guy is? My Triumph plate leaves no doubt (TRIUMPH, FL) so if you see me stop and help push! An old saying is never ride a Brit bike further than you're willing to push it back. ---"Jordan, Michael" wrote: > > > Any BSA streetbike riders on the list? Especially any version of the > > A65. My friend with the A65T is looking for parts and opinions. > > I used to have a '66 Lightning back in '68 - no parts left, but still have > plenty of opinions... > > > > I'm looking for other Triumph (Meridean) riders out there (nothing > > against the Hinckleys) to get together for rides, talk, etc. > > Ran with a fellow on a late model Triumph (license plate: MERIDN) Monday > night going home on Route 28 in Sterling - anybody know who this is?? > > > > I have a complete set of Whitworth sockets and spanners. > > I'm not sure if this is an asset or not ;-) > > Michael J. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:36:23 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17058 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by pentagon-dadc012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:33:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Calling Brian McCoy Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:33:03 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Brian, can't seem to get to you via direct e-mail. Please call me at work or at home after 3:30. Glenn From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:43:15 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17212 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA23132; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:43:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199811061943.OAA23132@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "SCOTT Rush" Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:42:33 -0500 Subject: Re: ERC Class CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 6 Nov 98, at 14:20, SCOTT Rush wrote: > For the classroom portion Saturday morning. I think doughnuts might be a > good idea also. Anyone want to bring some? Normally I'd be happy to... but not when I'm leaving the house at 7 am just to get there on time! Maybe a MD'er will volunteer? :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:16:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17783 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22849 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (known send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07143 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:16:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981106201748.19467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.41.154] by send201.yahoomail.com; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:17:48 PST Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:17:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" , Todd Peer , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was at a party, a Paul McCartney song came on. A girl I was with said she just heard that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings! ---"Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" wrote: > > Ah, but you're age is really showing now. I was teaching a junior high > school class recently, and telling them about watching Neil Armstrong walk > on the moon. I just got blank stares; sheesh, they weren't even born by the > last moon visit! > > Going thru my second mid-life crisis ... > > Mitch > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [mailto:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:04 PM > To: Todd Peer; Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: local elections > > > Joan Baez dedicated the song "Drug Store Truck Drivin Man" to Ronald > Ray-Gun (her pronunciation) at Woodstock in August 1969 which was held > on Max Yasgurs farm in upstate New York miles and miles from > Woodstock. Are you some kind of pinko commie that doesn't know about > Woodstock? Everybody knows about Woodstock! > Ray > > > > > ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > > > > Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. > Must > > be a southern Thang! > > > > Todd > > > > Ray L. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > > When summer comes rolling around > > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece > of > > > history. > > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:18:30 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA17813 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:18:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981106201853.1798.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.41.154] by send205.yahoomail.com; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:18:53 PST Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:18:53 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line To: SCOTT Rush , snake69@XXXXXX, bike.dealer@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gixer@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Kind of like "Harley Racing", right? ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > What's to figure out? It's an oxymoron. Military Intelligence? Present company excluded though. :-) > > Scooter > > >>> "Marvin Heilesen" 11/05/98 05:45PM >>> > > The backpack alone was not enough, but it was ok to cover up > the vest..... I can never figure out military intelligence.... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:22:02 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA17904 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:22:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981106202343.11161.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.41.154] by send203.yahoomail.com; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:23:43 PST Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:23:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Update on Bus Trip to NYC Motorcycle Show To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How about arranging a pickup somewhere between DC and Balto? ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > I've already got about sixteen people from dc-cycles interested in > the bus trip to NY. That's enough for me to try to make it happen! > Here are the details so far: > > Date: January 16, 1999 > > Time: Depart DC area at 8:00 am > Depart NYC at 9:00 pm (arrive in DC area 1-2 am) > Times approximate, will ask for feedback later > > Destination: Cycle World Int'l Motorcycle Show in NYC > > Cost: $30.00 for bus, $10.00 for show > > Who's invited: listmembers, SO's, kids, friends, neighbors, > coworkers, anybody with $40! :-) > > Method of travel: charter bus with reclining seats, bathroom, > TV/VCR, etc. I will make sure that carry on food and beverages are > allowed. > > For more info on the show: > www.motorcycleshows.com > > For more info on the charter bus company: > www.nationalcoachinc.com > > My plan is to accumulate names and email addresses of interested > parties. I need to have at least 32 people come to meet the $30.00 > rate. The bus will hold up to 47. Once I have 40+ names I will > send out an email with payment instructions. I have to pay the bus > company by the end of December. If we don't get 32 paying > passengers (including myself) by then, the trip will be cancelled. I > do plan on publicizing this outside of dc-cycles (i.e. maybe CAMS, > NOVAMGR, etc.) to make sure we get enough people. > > If you are interested in the trip and want to be added to my > distribution list, please email me. I've already added everyone who > has contacted me about the trip. Once I get enough people > interested we will firm up pickup point, times, etc., and I will let you > know where to send your checks. I will not actually deposit > checks until I get 32 in hand. > > I don't think you'll find a better deal anywhere on a trip to NYC... > and you'll get to spend the travel time talking with fellow motorcycle > enthusiasts, rather than sweating over traffic on the NJ Turnpike! :-) > > Anita > > PS - You don't really need to "cc" the list when you reply... but if > you do, please trim out my message! Otherwise, everyone will get > real sick of reading about this trip, especially those folks on digest > mode! Thanks! > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:33:45 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18078 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:33:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23063 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:33:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07782 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTD8986J; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:33:14 EST To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ancient Message-ID: <19981105.121047.5223.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3-7,9-11 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:33:14 EST On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:03:26 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch LT writes: >OK, OK, I can take the hint. That's what happens when you get older --you've heard >all the dirty jokes, so the only thing left are the bad ones. >BTW, I was one month shy of 10 during Woodstock, so based on the >mailing list's definition of old, I'm ancient. Technical advancements with Geritol, Depends and the Miracle Ear are all you have to look forward to now... ;-) JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:33:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18075 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23060 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA07779 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:33:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTD8988K; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:33:14 EST To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Punsville Message-ID: <19981105.121047.5223.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-7 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:33:14 EST You wish! On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:18 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch LT writes: >Hey, wait a minute, I resemble that ... oops, never mind. > >-----Original Message----- >From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX [mailto:bike.dealer@XXXXXX] "You don't think I asked for a 12-inch pianist, do you?" ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:34:05 1998 Return-Path: maxbiaggi2@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18081 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:34:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981106203425.9276.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.171.245.167] by send205.yahoomail.com; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:34:25 PST Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:34:25 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Wakefield Subject: Loose mirror stalk. . . To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You know how most sportbike mirrors have two joints: one near the mirror for fine adjustments and one at the base near the bodywork for major adjustments (like pulling the thing in close to the body for tight parking)? Well, the major adjustment joint on one of my mirror stalks has gotten so loose recently that the entire mirror arm/assembly flaps back and forth in the breeze. What can I do about this? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:48:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18346 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23194 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from portal1.visa.com (known portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA08120 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:47:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id MAA06520 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:47:27 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:47:27 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: One more Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:47:42 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > << File: Att1.pps >> A true Coyote date, if I ever saw one. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:49:59 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18365 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:49:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id MAA06728 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:49:12 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:49:12 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DCCycles List Subject: RE: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:49:26 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >An old saying is >never ride a Brit bike further than you're willing to push it back. I firmly believed that BSA stood for "Bastard Stopped Again" Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:56:32 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18452 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA03757; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:47:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981106204725.HSNZ649@XXXXXX>; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:47:25 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Marvin Heilesen" , "Jay St. Peter" , Subject: RE: Music Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:45:41 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be09c6$6b033720$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <199811061843.NAA05766@pop03.globecomm.net> Snake wrote: >> Some of you obviously didn't grow up with real music ... >> That's right, long hair and spandex >> the '80s rule > >Obviously. I have good taste in music. > >There has been very little good music released after 1975. Life >as we knew ceased to exist when disco hit. > > ****** DISCO SUCKS ****** Agreed that DISCO SUCKS! But! You are WRONG about only very little good music after 1975. I've always held that those who cling to the culture and styles of their youth on their way to feebdom. Are you a fossil? (just kidding). ;) I grew up with Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, Kiss, Nugent, Beck (Jeff Beck, the original Beck), Yes, King Crimson and a whole bunch of others. I used to think that progressive music was the end of any other creativity and style. Wrong, and the first step into feebdom. Though I'll never LIKE Rap Music (but I do like HipHop), and I'll always hate Country, and I'll forever live for serious guitar stylings (Satriani, Morse, Dimiola, etc.), there is no way I'll be convinced there has been very little good music produced after 1975. And hopefully, in another 35 years from now, I'll still have this attitude. ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* But there must be some reason that millions of other people love it....hmmmm. Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 15:57:31 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18526 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTEAHW62; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:54:54 EST To: ehand@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, loki@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [Fwd: [Fwd: Sexual driving experience....]] Message-ID: <19981105.123225.5223.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <36434BD4.8E54C7AC@ix.netcom.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,5-9 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 15:54:54 EST I like motorcycles. I mean, I REALLY like motorcycles, but I have never had an experience on a motorcycle that made me feel sexually aroused. Well, okay, there was one time...when I got flashed repeatedly by a carload of cheerleaders, but I've never had an experience of sexual arousal directly and specifically related to the motorcycle I was riding. That's not right... ;-) JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:00:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18580 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:00:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23359 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08402 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:00:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-90-63.s286.tnt13.ann.erols.com (207-172-90-63.s286.tnt13.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.63]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA13478 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:00:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811062100.QAA13478@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:10:30 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19981106201748.19467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: The BeaTles On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:17:48 -0800 (PST), Ray wrote: >I was at a party, a Paul McCartney song came on. A girl I was with >said she just heard that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings! I think that it was Paul McCartney that made me choose to play the bass. (Or it was John Entwistle, as I got older, my tastes turned from "The Beatles" to "The Who". Or I just changed with the times....) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:03:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18601 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23393 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:03:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (known cap1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08508 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:03:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id QAA23729; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:03:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:03:32 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: Ray cc: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" , Todd Peer , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections In-Reply-To: <19981106201748.19467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wings....wasn't that a TV show. I don't remember any singer/songwriter in it. ...just kidding... On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > I was at a party, a Paul McCartney song came on. A girl I was with > said she just heard that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings! > > > > > > ---"Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" wrote: > > > > Ah, but you're age is really showing now. I was teaching a junior > high > > school class recently, and telling them about watching Neil > Armstrong walk > > on the moon. I just got blank stares; sheesh, they weren't even > born by the > > last moon visit! > > > > Going thru my second mid-life crisis ... > > > > Mitch > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray [mailto:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:04 PM > > To: Todd Peer; Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; > > dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: local elections > > > > > > Joan Baez dedicated the song "Drug Store Truck Drivin Man" to Ronald > > Ray-Gun (her pronunciation) at Woodstock in August 1969 which was held > > on Max Yasgurs farm in upstate New York miles and miles from > > Woodstock. Are you some kind of pinko commie that doesn't know about > > Woodstock? Everybody knows about Woodstock! > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. > > Must > > > be a southern Thang! > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > Ray L. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > > > When summer comes rolling around > > > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know > what > > > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece > > of > > > > history. > > > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > DO YOU YAHOO!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:15:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18807 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23591 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA08816 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:15:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:14:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'bike.dealer@XXXXXX'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Ancient Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:14:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ya Hoo!! :^=DE Mitch -----Original Message----- From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX [mailto:bike.dealer@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 3:33 PM To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Ancient On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:03:26 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch LT writes: >OK, OK, I can take the hint. That's what happens when you get older --you've heard >all the dirty jokes, so the only thing left are the bad ones. >BTW, I was one month shy of 10 during Woodstock, so based on the=20 >mailing list's definition of old, I'm ancient. Technical advancements with Geritol, Depends and the Miracle Ear are = all you have to look forward to now... ;-) JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at = http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:21:02 1998 Return-Path: MINEREG@XXXXXX Received: from PASHA.COM (pasha.com [207.32.107.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA18911 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:16:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:16:47 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, maxbiaggi2@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Loose Mirror Stalk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline RE: Loose Mirror Stalk On my CBR F3, there is an allen bolt near the base plate of the mirror stalk, hidden under the rubber hood that covers the mirror stalks. Tighten the bolt to tighten mirror stalk. Perhaps you have a similar set up. Sean Sullivan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, the major adjustment joint on one of my mirror stalks has gotten so loose recently that the entire mirror arm/assembly flaps back and forth in the breeze. What can I do about this? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:24:17 1998 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18922 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from voyager.cris.com (voyager [206.173.119.82]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/08/04 5.11)) id QAA19458; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:23:06 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from localhost by voyager.cris.com (8.8.5) id QAA25330; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:23:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:23:06 -0500 (EST) From: TURNIP To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music In-Reply-To: <199811061843.NAA05766@pop03.globecomm.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Obviously. I have good taste in music. > >There has been very little good music released after 1975. Life >as we knew ceased to exist when disco hit. > > ****** DISCO SUCKS ****** Congratulations you've become and old fart before your time. Bop, bop, bopping along, Hugh A. Caldwell From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:30:26 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19108 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:30:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:26:20 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:26:02 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: snake69@XXXXXX, bike.dealer@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gixer@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Exactly. :-D Scooter >>> Ray 11/06/98 03:18PM >>> Kind of like "Harley Racing", right? ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > What's to figure out? It's an oxymoron. Military Intelligence?=20 Present company excluded though. :-) >=20 > Scooter >=20 > >>> "Marvin Heilesen" 11/05/98 05:45PM >>> >=20 > The backpack alone was not enough, but it was ok to cover up > the vest..... I can never figure out military intelligence.... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com=20 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:33:49 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19134 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:33:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-90-63.s286.tnt13.ann.erols.com (207-172-90-63.s286.tnt13.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.63]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA09062 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:33:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811062133.QAA09062@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:43:49 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <000b01be09c6$6b033720$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Music On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:45:41 -0500, Todd Peer wrote: >Agreed that DISCO SUCKS! > >But! You are WRONG about only very little good music after 1975. I've >always held that those who cling to the culture and styles of their youth on >their way to feebdom. Are you a fossil? (just kidding). ;) I am a fossil if you take a look at my CD collection. >I grew up with Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, Kiss, Nugent, Beck (Jeff Beck, the >original Beck), Yes, King Crimson and a whole bunch of others. I used to >think that progressive music was the end of any other creativity and style. >Wrong, and the first step into feebdom. I think I have everything by Zeppelin, Hendrix, and Yes, most of Nugent, a couple King Crimson (and ELP, considering Greg Lake was in both) , and one Kiss (Destroyer was their best effort). I don't have any of Jeff Beck's solo work yet, but I always turn up the radio when Beck's Bolero. >Though I'll never LIKE Rap Music (but I do like HipHop), and I'll always >hate Country, and I'll forever live for serious guitar stylings (Satriani, >Morse, Dimiola, etc.), there is no way I'll be convinced there has been very >little good music produced after 1975. And hopefully, in another 35 years >from now, I'll still have this attitude. Rap is just the newest incarnation of Disco. But it's not new. Remember the Sugar Hill Gang back in '78? Rap and Disco Suck! > ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* I grew up with the good country music. I do love all the old stuff, but I have noticed that there has not been too much good county music since 1975... :) Randy Travis is an exception, and Chris LeDoux was a local boy who played in the bars back home.... >But there must be some reason that millions of other people love >it....hmmmm. I still don't know how they can call it country when there is a lead guitar solo. The "Rock" I grew up with was more like country than the trash they are releasing today. The only dancing I know how to do is to the old country. I have not figured out why they brought back disco dancing to country music (can you say "Do The Hustle") I have liked the same music my whole life, and I don't see myself changing soon..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:34:30 1998 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19144 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:34:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <46K8TWDS>; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:30:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Music Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:29:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain I listen to alternative, and really dislike pop. My wife listens to pop, and usually dislikes alternative (and really hates the dj's on whfs). Somehow, we've compromised on country, which neither of us ever listened to before we got together. I still don't know how that happened. -Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > Though I'll never LIKE Rap Music (but I do like HipHop), and I'll > always > hate Country, and I'll forever live for serious guitar stylings > (Satriani, > Morse, Dimiola, etc.), there is no way I'll be convinced there has > been very > little good music produced after 1975. And hopefully, in another 35 > years > from now, I'll still have this attitude. > > ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO > ******* > > But there must be some reason that millions of other people love > it....hmmmm. > > Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:35:56 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19222 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:35:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23896 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA09679 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:35:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-90-63.s286.tnt13.ann.erols.com (207-172-90-63.s286.tnt13.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.63]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA10730 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:35:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811062135.QAA10730@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:45:58 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: One more On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:47:42 -0800, Jordan, Michael wrote: >> << File: Att1.pps >> > >A true Coyote date, if I ever saw one. Since we're telling jokes today, I need to join in.... Did you hear about the Polish Coyote??? He chewed off three of his legs and was still caught in the trap..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:40:43 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19251 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:41:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:41:42 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, jstpeter@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Music Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline It's not the music, it's the women who sing the music. Reba (grrrrr), = Trisha Yearwood, Wynonna, etc. ;-) Scooter >>> "Todd Peer" 11/06/98 03:45PM >>> ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* But there must be some reason that millions of other people love it....hmmmm. Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:48:28 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19415 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:48:00 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:47:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 17:46:37 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, jstpeter@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Music -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >>> "Todd Peer" - 11/6/98 3:45 PM >>> Snake wrote: >> Some of you obviously didn't grow up with real music ... >> That's right, long hair and spandex >> the '80s rule > >Obviously. I have good taste in music. > >There has been very little good music released after 1975. Life >as we knew ceased to exist when disco hit. > > ****** DISCO SUCKS ****** Agreed that DISCO SUCKS! But! You are WRONG about only very little good music after 1975. I've always held that those who cling to the culture and styles of their youth on their way to feebdom. Are you a fossil? (just kidding). ;) I grew up with Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, Kiss, Nugent, Beck (Jeff Beck, the original Beck), Yes, King Crimson and a whole bunch of others. I used to think that progressive music was the end of any other creativity and style. Wrong, and the first step into feebdom. Though I'll never LIKE Rap Music (but I do like HipHop), and I'll always hate Country, and I'll forever live for serious guitar stylings (Satriani, Morse, Dimiola, etc.), there is no way I'll be convinced there has been very little good music produced after 1975. And hopefully, in another 35 years from now, I'll still have this attitude. ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* But there must be some reason that millions of other people love it....hmmmm. Todd No, country doesn't suck, GARTH BROOKS AND ALL THE OTHER CRAP THEY PLAY ON THE RADIO SUCKS. Go get yerself a Johnny Cash prison album. Newer? Lucinda Williams or Whiskeytown. The '80s rule? Sure, but IMO because of The Clash, The Replacements and Elvis Costello. Screw Hip-Hop; gimme Howlin' Wolf and John Lee Hooker. Different strokes, folks, I like both two-and four- =:O Any crap can find a big audience--remember that "Roseanne" was one of the most popular shows in the country. Don't get me started on Hanson, or worse yet, the new-found popularity of The Village People . . . Joe From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:54:35 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19502 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:54:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA05715 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:54:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:54:27 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Music In-Reply-To: <000b01be09c6$6b033720$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Todd Peer wrote: > But! You are WRONG about only very little good music after 1975. Yeah, I didn't even play music until after 75 and I really like my stuff. Of course, very few have heard me play... Considering the fact that I like receiving a pay check every couple of weeks that won't be changing any time soon. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 16:56:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19515 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA24276 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:56:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA10230 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:56:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 394; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:55:43 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19981106164809.01d63dd0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:55:42 -0500 To: Ray , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: RE: local elections In-Reply-To: <19981106201748.19467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thats an OLD joke. =) At 03:17 PM 11/6/98 , Ray wrote: >I was at a party, a Paul McCartney song came on. A girl I was with >said she just heard that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings! ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) Putting it away for winter.... From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 17:25:28 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19952 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24818 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:25:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (known imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA11264 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:25:16 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6PASa19215; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:24:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <329a97c1.36437706@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:24:06 EST To: tl1000s@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: DYNO RESULTS!! (a tad long but interesting) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Well, I went over to Fast Lane Cycles today to do my dyno runs. I was pleasantly surprised by the results (more on that later). Its a great deal for anyone in the Northern VA, MD, DC, WV area at $50 per hour INCLUDING tuning. $25 for just a plain ol dyno run (3 runs total) and the best part is no appointment or anything needed. Just come in and jump on. Anyway, my TL1000S'' only mods are a K&N air filter, Yoshimura Carbon fiber slip on cans and the Dynojet Power Commander with the stock FI map. 18K+ on the odometer and the valves need to be adjusted. So, on with the fun part! We strapped her into the Dynojet150. The first run with the power commander plugged in but stock map ran a respectable 114HP. More than I had hoped! So, I figured lets plug in the Yosh box. The dyno man (Rick? owner) laughed and said dont bother...the PC is WAAAY better for tuning (hear that prospective PC vs Yosh buyers?). After a few adjustments here and there she pumped out an impressive 116 max HP at 9600 RPM and 73.5 ft lbs of torque at 7000 RPM. The key was leaning it out at higher RPMs (-5 at 8K, 9K, and 10K). I can send my map to anyone who wants it. I WILL be making changes to it tho in the low and midrange (too rich there as well). I will also have dyno curves available so if you want em just ask. One interesting thing, to the TL list, when do your rev limiters kick in? Mine would shut her down at 10,200 RPM (indicated 11K on the tach but DJ150 and PC said 10,2). Oh yeah, also the TLs speedo reading was off. At a speedo indicated 140 the real speed was 133. Not too bad tho. For you DC-Cycles people, I am planning on going back in a few weeks for some extensive dyno'ing so if anyone is still interested in heading over there to run your bike let me know. Oh yeah, and Collin, I did drop your name a few times! Jack From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 18:20:04 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA20941 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:20:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA25571 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:20:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA12770 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-04.dial.nova.org (ra1-04.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.164]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA06809 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:19:51 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Last chance re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:26:43 GMT Message-ID: <3643849d.215544960@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will be dividing up the costs for replacing Todd's jacket liner on Monday at 2:00pm. If you want to contribute get a message to me before that time. Initial price for Darien Liner: $167 Liner after 20% goodwill discount: $133.60 Shipping (air) $12 Total $145.60 We've currently got 29 folks willing to help out. That brings us to $5.02 per person. Easy peasy. This will be my last post to the list at large on this topic... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 20:19:51 1998 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA22785 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-6.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.47]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA18710 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:19:47 -0500 Message-ID: <07d901be09ec$7d0712e0$3510b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: A worthy cause Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:17:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Recognizing that worthy causes are best presented before the middle of November, this relayed to the list in hopes of stirring sympathetic action -- Bill S. / DC >THE NBA PLAYER ADOPTION PROGRAM NEEDS YOU! > >With an NBA player's strike against the team owners looming, now is the >time for us to show the world just how much we care. It's just not >right. >Hundreds of basketball players in our very own country are living at or >just below the seven-figure salary level! Atrocious! And, as if that >weren't bad enough, they will be deprived of pay for several >weeks--possibly a whole year--as a result of the strike. But now you can > >help! For about two thousand dollars a day--that's less than the cost >of a >large screen projection TV--you can help a basketball player remain >economically viable during his time of need. > >Two thousand dollars a day may not seem like a lot of money to you, but >to >a basketball player it could mean the difference between a vacation >spent >golfing in Florida or a Mediterranean cruise. For you, two thousand >dollars is nothing more than three months rent or mortgage payments. But >to >a basketball player, two thousand dollars a day will almost replace his >salary. > >Your commitment of two thousand dollars a day will enable a player to >buy >that home entertainment center, trade in the year-old Lexus for a new >Ferrari, or enjoy a weekend in Rio. > >"HOW WILL I KNOW I'M HELPING?" > >Each month, you will receive a complete financial report on the player >you >sponsor. Detailed information about his stocks, bonds, 401(k), real >estate, and other investment holdings will be mailed to your home. >You'll >also get information on how he plans to invest the $5 million lump sum >he >will receive upon retirement. Plus upon signing up for this program, you > >will receive a photo of the player (unsigned). Put the photo on your >refrigerator to remind you of other peoples' suffering. > >"HOW WILL HE KNOW I'M HELPING" > >Your basketball player will be told that he has a SPECIAL FRIEND who >just >wants to help in a time of need. Although the player won't know your >name, he will be able to make collect calls to your home via a special >operator just in case additional funds are needed for unexpected >expenses. > >Simply fill out the form below. > >___YES, I want to help! > >I would like to sponsor a striking NBA basketball player. My preference >is >checked below: > > [ ] Starter > [ ] Reserve > [ ] Star* > [ ] Superstar** > [ ] Entire team*** > [ ] I'll sponsor a player most in need. Please select one for >me. > > * Higher cost > ** Much higher cost > *** Please call our 900 number to ask for the cost of a >specific >team (Sorry, does not include cheerleaders). > >Please charge the account listed below $2,054.79 per day for a reserve >player or starter for the duration of the strike. Please send me a >picture >of the player I have sponsored, along with a team logo and my very own >NBA >Players Association badge to wear proudly on my lapel. > > [ ] MasterCard [ ] Visa [ ] American Express > [ ] DiscoverCard [ ] Diner's Club > > Your Name: __________________________ > Telephone Number: __________________________ > Account Number: __________________________ Exp.Date:_________ > Signature: __________________________ > >Mail completed form to NBA Players Association or call 1-888-TOOMUCH now >to >enroll by phone. (Children under 18 must have parental approval.) > >Note: Sponsors are not permitted to contact the player they have >sponsored, either in person or by other means including, but not limited > >to, telephone calls, letters, e-mail, or third parties. Keep in mind >that >the basketball player you have sponsored will be much too busy enjoying >his >free time, thanks to your generous donations. Oh yes, contributions are > >not tax-deductible. > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 20:41:04 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23111 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:41:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA27122 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA15695 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.29]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 20:37:53 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: Subject: RE: Nighthawk---- sold. Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:42:14 -0500 Message-ID: <004301be09ef$d8917e40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Gil, I hope there's been enough ribbing about my staying up late. I most assuredly would have missed this, had I not been awake at 12:33 last night:) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > Thanks for all the inquries, Im sure my mom will be giddy with > joy when she > finds out its actually gone. The lucky taker - George Howell. He'll be by > tonight. Just so everyone is aware, I responded to the first > email I got, he > was quick. if for some reason this doesnt go through, I'll let > you all know. > > Sean... > From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 20:41:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA23121 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:41:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA27128 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA15706 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:41:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.29]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 20:38:23 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , , "Sean Pter" Subject: RE: Geeze louise.... Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:42:44 -0500 Message-ID: <004401be09ef$ea4867c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <405c8f3e.364347b0@aol.com> I offered him lunch (he didn't take me up on it) Sean, the lunch offer still stands (oh, and when I get new speakers for my car, if you'd like to make the money on the side rather than go through work??) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > If I woulda known he wanted to get rid of that thing that badly, > I would've > bought him front AND rears for that thing.....polished his rims > too.....shoot. > > -Sean Jordan > From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 21:16:41 1998 Return-Path: wes@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA23657 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mary-ann (207-172-74-197.s197.tnt2.man.erols.com [207.172.74.197]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01369 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:16:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811070216.VAA01369@smtp3.erols.com> X-Sender: wes@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 21:13:56 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: wes Subject: Important -- ERC folks read this Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gang -- My soon-to-be ex-wife's truck has broken down I it looks like I'm going to be spending the majority of tomorrow trying to fix it. Please contact one of the on-calls for the ERC class and let them go in my place. My range slot is Sunday afternoon. Sorry for the late notice. --wes wes@XXXXXX '96 Shadow / '78 CB750K "oh, i can't change what i am right now but i'll be fine in the next life" -- i mother earth From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 21:31:01 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA23857 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA27600 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:30:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA16695 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:30:56 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WPKGa02539 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:30:09 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <563cbf0f.3643b0b1@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:30:09 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Important -- ERC folks read this Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 Id like to switch with someone for the sunday afternoon range course. Anyone interested? Jack From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 22:25:06 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA24554 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:25:00 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id WAA11879; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:24:52 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma011854; Fri, 6 Nov 98 22:24:44 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F2100DMN83K67@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:23:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B5.00124CD6 ; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 22:19:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 22:21:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Loose mirror stalk. . . To: Dave Wakefield Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B5.00125028.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Dave, The same thing happened to my Rf900. Pop the rubber grommet of the bottom of the major joint and there is an allen bolt in there that you can tighten. See you Sunday at the ERC, chris To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: Dave Wakefield Date: 11/06/98 08:34:25 PM GMT Subject: Loose mirror stalk. . . You know how most sportbike mirrors have two joints: one near the mirror for fine adjustments and one at the base near the bodywork for major adjustments (like pulling the thing in close to the body for tight parking)? Well, the major adjustment joint on one of my mirror stalks has gotten so loose recently that the entire mirror arm/assembly flaps back and forth in the breeze. What can I do about this? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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From dc-cycles-request Sat Nov 7 07:57:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA05087 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 07:57:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA04930 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 07:56:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (known iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA23729 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 07:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mydesktop (client196-127-37.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.37]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id HAA14583 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 07:55:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811071255.HAA14583@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 07:46:19 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: RE: local elections In-Reply-To: <19981105195542.11467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just gimme Pat Paulson, and let the rest be damned. MET ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request Sat Nov 7 11:09:25 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07399 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTGCJ24P; Sat, 07 Nov 1998 11:08:57 EST To: maxbiaggi2@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Loose mirror stalk. . . Message-ID: <19981106.074628.8191.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <19981106203425.9276.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,5-8,10-11,13-15 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 11:08:57 EST On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:34:25 -0800 (PST) maxbiaggi2@XXXXXX> writes: > >You know how most sportbike mirrors have two joints: >Well, the major adjustment joint on one of my mirror stalks has gotten so loose >recently that the entire mirror arm/assembly flaps back and forth in the breeze. > >What can I do about this? Just rip the whole thing off and throw it away. What's behind you no longer matters...;-) Okay, just kidding. Tell me what you ride and I'll ask the service department here how it can be tightened. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Sat Nov 7 20:06:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA15033 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by torrentnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01153 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 18:27:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA10202 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 18:24:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (known camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA01117 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 18:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from hgg (user-38lcivp.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.75.249]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA10548 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 18:24:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981107182524.007f19f0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 18:25:24 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Nice trip to Annapolis Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I revisited a great road I'd forgotten about. It's Governor's Bridge Road and take you from Rt. 301 just south of Rt. 50 and goes all the way to Riva Road, from which you can make your way into Annapolis. It's a nice alternative to taking 50 all the way. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request Sat Nov 7 20:18:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA15203 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA11212 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (known imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA06578 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:17:57 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id QDBUa03785; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:17:21 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <519fb52b.3644f121@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:17:21 EST To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Nice trip to Annapolis Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 11/7/98 8:13:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, hgg@XXXXXX writes: << It's Governor's Bridge Road and take you from Rt. 301 just south of Rt. 50 >> Know that road very well. Took some folks from DC Cycles on that road in September I think. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sat Nov 7 21:21:55 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16442 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11713 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA11392 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:21:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.25]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Sat, 07 Nov 1998 21:18:43 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: gas tank cleanup Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:23:19 -0500 Message-ID: <000801be0abe$c034c3a0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Came across a great deal on a bike this weekend. The only big thing it seems I have to do is get some rust out of the tank. What's the best way to do this? (Other things done/doing: lube and adjust cables, adjust brake, replace brake fluid, change oil, clean, clean, clean, new spark plugs, maybe new tires (dad thinks they are a bit cracked, I don't see it) fill and charge battery.) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 06:50:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA26338 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 06:50:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA17646 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 06:50:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA29225 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 06:50:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23409; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 06:50:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36465C27.BE098A1C@geocities.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 22:06:15 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Howell CC: DC Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup References: <000801be0abe$c034c3a0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Congrats on getting the bike!... What you need to do, is to get some acid...battery electrolite works well. Pour it in the tank (off the bike of course) and slosh it around for a while. Drain and repeat several times, then flush with copius amounts of water. Then flush with a small amount of gas to help get rid of the water residue. After doing this, you're not going to wat to leave the tank sitting dry for any length of time or the rust will return. You also might want to coat the inside of the tank with "Kreme" when you're done. George Howell wrote: > > Came across a great deal on a bike this weekend. The only big thing it seems > I have to do is get some rust out of the tank. What's the best way to do > this? -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 18:24:22 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07067 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:24:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA23740 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA07642 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:24:08 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr51-dialup53.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.79.181]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33510) with SMTP id <0F2400BUQMB3QS@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:23:35 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 18:25:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Last chance re: Todd's jacket liner To: Kirk Roy , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <008701be0b6f$18ff1c00$b54f37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Kirk, I'm in. Jon Schumer dawn.jon@XXXXXX -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Roy To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Friday, November 06, 1998 6:27 PM Subject: Last chance re: Todd's jacket liner I will be dividing up the costs for replacing Todd's jacket liner on Monday at 2:00pm. If you want to contribute get a message to me before that time. Initial price for Darien Liner: $167 Liner after 20% goodwill discount: $133.60 Shipping (air) $12 Total $145.60 We've currently got 29 folks willing to help out. That brings us to $5.02 per person. Easy peasy. This will be my last post to the list at large on this topic... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 18:36:15 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07287 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:36:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA23827 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm04sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm04sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.153]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA07798 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:36:01 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr51-dialup53.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.79.181]) by PM04SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33508) with SMTP id <0F24007IEMUPL0@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:35:17 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 18:37:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Nice trip to Annapolis To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <00bf01be0b70$bb74f6c0$b54f37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >In a message dated 11/7/98 8:13:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, hgg@XXXXXX >writes: > ><< It's Governor's Bridge > Road and take you from Rt. 301 just south of Rt. 50 >> >Know that road very well. Took some folks from DC Cycles on that road in >September I think. > >Ciao, > >Fred You are right Fred. I remember that name. Same road that the truck with a trailer was hiding in the shadows of that turn. Very nice road. Jon From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 18:48:36 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA07437 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA23908 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (known iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA07904 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mydesktop (client196-127-101.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.101]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id SAA15644 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:47:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811082347.SAA15644@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 18:07:26 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Lessons for Volvo drivers... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I stumbled across this page, titled "How to Drive: A Guide For Those of You Who've Apparently Never Learned". It comes from a guy on the ST list - I'm surprised I haven't seen it posted around before. He also has some stuff on homemade electrics. http://www.infinet.com/~trigger/drive.htm Enjoy. :) MET ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 19:57:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA08555 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:57:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA24506 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (known imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA08577 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:57:29 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id QSSBa18748; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:55:25 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <74e52976.36463d7d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:55:25 EST To: dawn.jon@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Nice trip to Annapolis Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 11/8/98 6:41:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, dawn.jon@XXXXXX writes: << You are right Fred. I remember that name. Same road that the truck with a trailer was hiding in the shadows of that turn. Very nice road. >> Exactly, the road that in the opposite direction had that big guy in the middle of the road. Ciao, fred From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 20:34:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA09079 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:34:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA24843 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:34:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.152]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA09085 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:34:42 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr17-dialup12.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.71.12]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33507) with SMTP id <0F24003G4SCKRM@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 01:34:05 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 20:36:01 -0500 Subject: Re: Nice trip to Annapolis To: Boiade@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <001801be0b81$55185fa0$0c4737a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal ><< You are right Fred. I remember that name. Same road that the truck > with a trailer was hiding in the shadows of that turn. Very nice road. > >> >Exactly, the road that in the opposite direction had that big guy in the >middle of the road. > >Ciao, > >fred Yes, I remember that huge guy that took up the whole road! Right at the same tree covered switchback over the hill. Yikes, that's something you don't expect to see on the road. Jon From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 22:24:04 1998 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10722 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:24:03 -0500 (EST) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3JDZa02329 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:22:53 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <9d1eabe4.3646600d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:22:53 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Polite M*F*s Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 for the SECOND TIME IN SIX MONTHS some jerk backed into my legally parked bike and knocked it over - breaking the left turn signal (for the second time) and scratching the hell out of the side of it, snapping off the metal knob on the bottom of the peg, etc etc .... let's not forget the helmet hanging from the helmet lock which had about 400 pounds of bike land on top of it (time for a new one maybe???) oh, but fortunately I had not yet fixed the snapped-off rearview mirror and nearly-cracked-in-half clutch mount from the last time so it only got a little more warped than it already is ... ARGH no witnesses (and believe me I asked around), no culprit anywhere in sight, no way to tell if it was the car that was there when I arrived and parked, or the car that was there when I came back. GRRRRRRR. oh - but there's good news - the perpetrator (I assume) picked the bike up and put the knob from the peg on top of my gas tank. How sweet. Both times this happened I was parked a good FIVE FEET away from the nearest vehicle and the way the street was, there could only be a car on one side of the bike. Any suggestions on how I can prevent a third installment guys? and does this happen to anyone else or am I all alone????? :( -a rather disgruntled Marcy p.s. well anyway, now I test drive my insurance company .... Ha! From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 22:31:58 1998 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA10878 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:31:57 -0500 (EST) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id PIOAa02343; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:28:25 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:28:25 EST To: maxbiaggi2@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Loose mirror stalk. . . Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 11/6/98 3:48:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, maxbiaggi2@XXXXXX writes: << What can I do about this? >> er....tighten it? heh heh - just kidding, kind of ..... mine was doing the same thing and I, well .... tightened it. End of problem. :D Marcy From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 22:55:38 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from vulture.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA11244 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:55:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from iguana ([207.172.64.46]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 164; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:54:59 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19981108224746.00b0d5f0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 22:53:15 -0500 To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: Re: Polite M*F*s In-Reply-To: <9d1eabe4.3646600d@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 10:22 PM 11/8/98 -0500, JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: >Any suggestions on how I can prevent a third installment guys? and does= this >happen to anyone else or am I all alone????? :( > >-a rather disgruntled Marcy Instead of parking like this: # # #0---0 # | | #0---0 # # 0 # | | # 0 # # maybe try this: # # #0---0 # | | #0---0 # # 0=3D=3D=3D0 # # or if thats the way you always park, try the other way. Not sure which is better, but it seems the second way they would have to hit it pretty hard to knock it off. The first way it has tenuous balance if they hit the front tire. Of course, it doesnt take much of a knock one way or the other..... Just another excuse for ASCII art :-) Sucks about your bike though =3D(=20 _____________________________________=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0 Mike Troutman =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 mike@XXXXXX =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://www.troutman.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 8 23:15:25 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA11584 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:15:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA26271 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:15:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.wch.adelphia.net (known alpha.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA22116 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:15:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from gforeman (surf173.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.173]) by alpha.wch.adelphia.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id XAA22816; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:15:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <003301be0b8f$2043dda0$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> From: "Gary Foreman" To: Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Polite M*F*s Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:13:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 I think I would at least have a motion alarm. At least when it's knocked over, the alarm would alert others. -----Original Message----- From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 10:34 PM Subject: Polite M*F*s >for the SECOND TIME IN SIX MONTHS some jerk backed into my legally parked bike >and knocked it over - breaking the left turn signal (for the second time) and >scratching the hell out of the side of it, snapping off the metal knob on the >bottom of the peg, etc etc .... let's not forget the helmet hanging from the >helmet lock which had about 400 pounds of bike land on top of it (time for a >new one maybe???) > >oh, but fortunately I had not yet fixed the snapped-off rearview mirror and >nearly-cracked-in-half clutch mount from the last time so it only got a little >more warped than it already is ... ARGH > >no witnesses (and believe me I asked around), no culprit anywhere in sight, no >way to tell if it was the car that was there when I arrived and parked, or the >car that was there when I came back. GRRRRRRR. > >oh - but there's good news - the perpetrator (I assume) picked the bike up and >put the knob from the peg on top of my gas tank. How sweet. > >Both times this happened I was parked a good FIVE FEET away from the nearest >vehicle and the way the street was, there could only be a car on one side of >the bike. > >Any suggestions on how I can prevent a third installment guys? and does this >happen to anyone else or am I all alone????? :( > >-a rather disgruntled Marcy > >p.s. well anyway, now I test drive my insurance company .... Ha! From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 00:33:25 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12775 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:33:24 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA28680; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:29:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:26:52 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? To: Ray cc: DCCycles List In-Reply-To: <19981106193725.14449.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > On BSAs I'm looking for a good local parts source for parts in general > and a Euro-style tank for an A65 for a friends bike. Don't know any local sources,but have you tried the Brit moto mags?_Classic Bikes_ has tons of adds for old brit bike parts. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 00:39:07 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12863 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:39:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA28711; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:35:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:29:55 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: local elections To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19981106201748.19467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > I was at a party, a Paul McCartney song came on. A girl I was with > said she just heard that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings! When I was stationed over in England,I heard a kid come in to the bowling ally once and announce to his friends that Ozzy had once played with Black Sabbith. Along the same lines...last week I asked a kid at my part-time job if he had ever seen a wheat penny.He had no idea what I was talking about.And just today the girls were talking and one of them made mention about Top Gun comming out when she was in 4th grade. Damn kids.Now I feel old(and I'm still a year off of 30). The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 00:43:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA12965 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:43:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA28198 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (known pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23834 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA28727; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:39:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:36:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Nighthawk---- sold. To: George Howell cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <004301be09ef$d8917e40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, George Howell wrote: > Gil, > I hope there's been enough ribbing about my staying up late. I most > assuredly would have missed this, had I not been awake at 12:33 last night:) I saw it the same time you did.I thought he was either joking,or would wise up and change his mind.Did he really trade you the bike for a tire? BTW,Kreme makes a complete kit for redoing your gastank.Lots of Harley folks use 'em for restorations. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:08:09 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19380 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:08:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109120949.18916.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:09:49 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:09:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? To: "Jordan, Michael" , DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---"Jordan, Michael" wrote: > > I firmly believed that BSA stood for "Bastard Stopped Again" > > It also means "Bastard Shook Apart" I was working with some British Marines in the Carribbean that had, you guessed it, BSA automatic rifles. At risk to my own life, I pointed out that most of them appeared to be leaking oil. Ray _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:10:27 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA19399 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:10:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811091210.HAA19399@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:10:22 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Polite M*F*s Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:07:14 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Umm.. well, don't know about the rest of you, but if I'm parking alone, I tend to do it a bit illeagley usually. In Baltimore I put it on a sidewalk, or between some concrete pillars (that protect a streetlight.. which makes for a handy place to lock a bike). If I don't have that option, I just trust the gods that the people around me will be kind - haven't had a problem yet (knocking on wood). Sorry to hear about it though Marcy.. Brian McCoy > -----Original Message----- > > Any suggestions on how I can prevent a third installment > guys? and does this > happen to anyone else or am I all alone????? :( > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:12:24 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19479 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:12:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109121356.3559.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:13:56 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:13:56 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Music To: TURNIP , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I still think music suffered a tragic loss the day Thelonius Monk died. Ray (Maynarg G. Krebs is my hero, and Thelonius Monk was his hero) ---TURNIP wrote: > > > >Obviously. I have good taste in music. > > > >There has been very little good music released after 1975. Life > >as we knew ceased to exist when disco hit. > > > > ****** DISCO SUCKS ****** > > Congratulations you've become and old fart before your time. > > Bop, bop, bopping along, > Hugh A. Caldwell > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:12:51 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19482 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:12:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109121323.25409.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:13:23 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:13:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Music To: TURNIP , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I meant Maynard, not Magnard! Arthritis sucks! ---TURNIP wrote: > > > >Obviously. I have good taste in music. > > > >There has been very little good music released after 1975. Life > >as we knew ceased to exist when disco hit. > > > > ****** DISCO SUCKS ****** > > Congratulations you've become and old fart before your time. > > Bop, bop, bopping along, > Hugh A. Caldwell > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:17:44 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19540 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:17:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109121815.26649.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:18:15 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:18:15 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Music To: Mark Petty , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sneak some Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen in the country, that will either convert her back to rock or turn her into a total hillbilly. Yee-Haw! Ray Still in mourning: August 9, 1995 ---Mark Petty wrote: > > I listen to alternative, and really dislike pop. My wife listens to pop, > and usually dislikes alternative (and really hates the dj's on whfs). > Somehow, we've compromised on country, which neither of us ever listened > to before we got together. > > I still don't know how that happened. > > -Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > > Though I'll never LIKE Rap Music (but I do like HipHop), and I'll > > always > > hate Country, and I'll forever live for serious guitar stylings > > (Satriani, > > Morse, Dimiola, etc.), there is no way I'll be convinced there has > > been very > > little good music produced after 1975. And hopefully, in another 35 > > years > > from now, I'll still have this attitude. > > > > ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO > > ******* > > > > But there must be some reason that millions of other people love > > it....hmmmm. > > > > Todd > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:18:35 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19545 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:18:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109122025.12988.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:20:25 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:20:25 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: RE: Music To: SCOTT Rush , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, jstpeter@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I suggest STTV (Shania Twain Television). All Shania, all the time! ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > It's not the music, it's the women who sing the music. Reba (grrrrr), Trisha Yearwood, Wynonna, etc. ;-) > > Scooter > > >>> "Todd Peer" 11/06/98 03:45PM >>> > ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* > > But there must be some reason that millions of other people love > it....hmmmm. > > Todd > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:20:38 1998 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA19641 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:20:36 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id FUQYa02244; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:19:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9b427272.3646ddc2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:19:14 EST To: gnissley@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 11/9/98 12:38:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, gnissley@XXXXXX writes: << On BSAs I'm looking for a good local parts source for parts in general > and a Euro-style tank for an A65 for a friends bike. >> Call Heyser Cycles in Laurel and ask for Frank Diehl. He is the local BSA expert. He also owns Heyser's now. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:22:28 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA19655 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01668 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:22:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (known send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA27906 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:22:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109122356.6204.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:23:56 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:23:56 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: Michael Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It may be an old joke, but it happened to me in Greenville, Mississippi in 1982 when I was twenty years old. And she was too dumb to be joking. ---Michael Troutman wrote: > > Thats an OLD joke. =) > > At 03:17 PM 11/6/98 , Ray wrote: > >I was at a party, a Paul McCartney song came on. A girl I was with > >said she just heard that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings! > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) > Putting it away for winter.... > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:39:09 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA19892 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:39:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109124059.18516.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:40:59 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:40:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup To: George Howell Cc: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The best cheap way is to get some muriatic acid (swimming pool acid) from Wal-Mart. You can get the same stuff labelled as tank cleaner/deruster for three times the price. Remove petcock, drain tank, cover petcock hole & vent, fill, slosh around, don't get any on you. If you have loose rust use a few dozen different size ball bearings (we used gravel too) to move around, after it's clean rinse the hell out of it to get every drop of acid out then blow all the water out. Kreem brand is the best but you have to follow the directions. Almost all of the complaints you see about Kreem are idiots not following directions. ---George Howell wrote: > > Came across a great deal on a bike this weekend. The only big thing it seems > I have to do is get some rust out of the tank. What's the best way to do > this? > > (Other things done/doing: lube and adjust cables, adjust brake, replace > brake fluid, change oil, clean, clean, clean, new spark plugs, maybe new > tires (dad thinks they are a bit cracked, I don't see it) fill and charge > battery.) > > ---------------------------------------- > -George Howell > ghowell@XXXXXX > georgehowell@XXXXXX > "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 07:46:57 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA20026 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:46:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01890 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (known send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA28179 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:46:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109124843.20654.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 04:48:43 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:48:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup To: George Howell Cc: DC Cycles Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii No, don't use battery acid! It will eat right through the tank. And the frame, and your hands and clothes... Use the muriatic acid instead. ---"Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" wrote: > > Congrats on getting the bike!... > > What you need to do, is to get some acid...battery electrolite works > well. Pour it in the tank (off the bike of course) and slosh it around > for a while. Drain and repeat several times, then flush with copius > amounts of water. Then flush with a small amount of gas to help get rid > of the water residue. > > After doing this, you're not going to wat to leave the tank sitting dry > for any length of time or the rust will return. You also might want to > coat the inside of the tank with "Kreme" when you're done. > > George Howell wrote: > > > > Came across a great deal on a bike this weekend. The only big thing it seems > > I have to do is get some rust out of the tank. What's the best way to do > > this? > > -- > _________________________________________ > Collin and Penny Fagan > LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard > (202) 366-0067 (work) > (703) 356-4279 (home) > ICQ UIN: 435732 > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ > (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 08:14:36 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA20441 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:14:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AAB12F501FA; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:14:25 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981109080351.00fa97f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:08:29 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: FYA: We all knew it was coming... (non-m/c) In-Reply-To: <852566B3.0078A0FC.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:57 PM 11/5/98 , Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX wrote: >-----Original Message----- >We all knew this was coming. For those that don't understand, Jesse >"The Body" Ventura was elected as Governor of the state of Minnesota. > >The Top 13 Changes Under a Government Run by Pro Wrestlers One very informative way of looking at all this is that since elections offer only a few people for each office (usually 2 or 3), then people choose the best of the possibilities. Often this is seen as merely choosing the least worst. Look at the Republican and the Democrat contenders who were voted against. Now THAT'S saying a lot. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 09:38:54 1998 Return-Path: true@XXXXXX Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21687 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mydesktop (client196-127-22.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.22]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id JAA03358 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:36:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811091436.JAA03358@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:32:52 -0500 To: DCCycles List From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup In-Reply-To: <19981109124059.18516.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Where do you normally get Kreme? MET At 07:40 AM 11/9/98 , Ray wrote: >The best cheap way is to get some muriatic acid (swimming pool acid) >from Wal-Mart. You can get the same stuff labelled as tank >cleaner/deruster for three times the price. Remove petcock, drain >tank, cover petcock hole & vent, fill, slosh around, don't get any on >you. If you have loose rust use a few dozen different size ball >bearings (we used gravel too) to move around, after it's clean rinse >the hell out of it to get every drop of acid out then blow all the >water out. Kreem brand is the best but you have to follow the >directions. Almost all of the complaints you see about Kreem are >idiots not following directions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 09:41:29 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21712 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:41:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA32426; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981109144050.NFZO649@XXXXXX>; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:40:50 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: Polite M*F*s Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:39:03 -0500 Message-ID: <000101be0bee$b2878360$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9d1eabe4.3646600d@aol.com> Importance: Normal Marcy, Where are you parking downtown? Is it a motorcycle spot? When I go downtown and know I'm only popping in and out of wherever, I just park up on the sidewalk trying to stay inconspicous. The only thing I worry about then is the police....HA! Easy enough since DC has those little flower bed/tree bed thingys on the sidewalk. Just park next to there. It really sucks all the same. Barring being able to park on the sidewalk, try parking as conspicuously as possible and in a place where lots of people can see. Todd Marcy wrote: > for the SECOND TIME IN SIX MONTHS some jerk backed into my > legally parked bike > and knocked it over - > > Any suggestions on how I can prevent a third installment guys? > and does this > happen to anyone else or am I all alone????? :( > > -a rather disgruntled Marcy > > p.s. well anyway, now I test drive my insurance company .... Ha! > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 09:49:47 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA21878 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:49:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:50:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:50:37 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, jstpeter@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Music Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hmmmmm......A Shania fan, huh? She's got some good stuff, but some of it = I can't stand. I'm going to see Reba (grrrr) this weekend. RTV (Reba = Television) sounds good to me. :-) Scooter >>> Ray 11/09/98 07:20AM >>> I suggest STTV (Shania Twain Television). All Shania, all the time! =20 ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > It's not the music, it's the women who sing the music. Reba (grrrrr), Trisha Yearwood, Wynonna, etc. ;-) >=20 > Scooter >=20 > >>> "Todd Peer" 11/06/98 03:45PM >>> > ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* >=20 > But there must be some reason that millions of other people love > it....hmmmm. >=20 > Todd >=20 >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 09:50:57 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21969 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:50:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA12921; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981109145013.NIYF649@XXXXXX>; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:50:13 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , "SCOTT Rush" , , , Subject: RE: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:48:26 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be0bf0$01ee3ec0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981109122025.12988.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal (said in my best Homer Simpson voice)....mmmMmmm, country bimbos. > > I suggest STTV (Shania Twain Television). All Shania, all the time! > ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > > > It's not the music, it's the women who sing the music. Reba > (grrrrr), Trisha Yearwood, Wynonna, etc. ;-) > > > > Scooter > > > > >>> "Todd Peer" 11/06/98 03:45PM >>> > > ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* > > > > But there must be some reason that millions of other people love > > it....hmmmm. > > > > Todd From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 09:58:53 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22062 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:58:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.21]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:45:33 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Ray" , "SCOTT Rush" , , , , Subject: RE: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:50:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be0bf0$4ba7d760$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <19981109122025.12988.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Not to offend the ladies, but why does Alanis Morisette appear naked in a video, and Shania Twain doesn't? Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with this world. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > I suggest STTV (Shania Twain Television). All Shania, all the time! From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 10:01:32 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22110 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:01:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:03:00 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:02:19 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Losing my happy home. :-( Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Well everyone, I was just informed by my sister and bro-in-law (yes! I = live with my sister) that they will not be renewing the lease when it = expires in May. :-( They have this crazy idea about buying a house and = just the two of them living together. So, that leaves little ole me on my = own. I now have a couple options 1.) find a new roommate to take over = half the rent 2.) move into an efficiency (bachelor pad) apartment 3.) = find a roommate and move somewhere else. If I find a roommate to take = over their half of the rent now, they could possibly move out sooner. If = I find someone to move in with, we can possibly cancel our current lease. = Was it Ray looking for a happy home for him and his 6 bikes? You probably = wouldn't want to move into my building, $50 a month per bike parking, but = we might be able to find something else. Other than that, anyone have = room for 1 SWM (27 yrs old), 1 motorcycle, 1 car and 1 room of furniture? Scooter (I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 10:03:37 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22142 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:03:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11268; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:51:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:04:04 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA15C@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Todd Peer'" , Ray , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:04:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Awww..now you're going and ruining things... Just like up in the pacific northwest...As much as we keep trying to tell everyone that it rains all the time and is absolutely miserable, some damn fool goes and tells a Californian how wonderful it is....next thing you know they're all moving up there to buy summer homes and drive up the real estate prices, crowd the highways, etc. etc. etc. So, i'll set the record straight right off the bat... Country Wominz ain't no good...they can't cook, can't clean, and don't know how to give their men any goo luvins!!! :) I also have this bridge I'd like to show you..... > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:00 AM > To: Ray; SCOTT Rush; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; snake69@XXXXXX; > jstpeter@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: RE: Music > > (said in my best Homer Simpson voice)....mmmMmmm, country bimbos. > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 10:06:57 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22249 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:06:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomspc (user-37kbm2a.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.216.74]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA15791 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:06:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001001be0bf2$6b9a0640$03000004@tomspc.mindspring.com> From: "Tom Zell" To: Subject: Re: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:05:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 When did DC-Cycles become DC-Music?? Thanks for tying up my bandwidth with non-moto related crap. Thank you, thank you very much, Tom '86 VFR750 -----Original Message----- From: SCOTT Rush To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX ; snake69@XXXXXX ; jstpeter@XXXXXX ; todd.b.peer@XXXXXX ; raymondlucas@XXXXXX Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:02 AM Subject: Re: RE: Music Hmmmmm......A Shania fan, huh? She's got some good stuff, but some of it I can't stand. I'm going to see Reba (grrrr) this weekend. RTV (Reba Television) sounds good to me. :-) Scooter >>> Ray 11/09/98 07:20AM >>> I suggest STTV (Shania Twain Television). All Shania, all the time! ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > It's not the music, it's the women who sing the music. Reba (grrrrr), Trisha Yearwood, Wynonna, etc. ;-) > > Scooter > > >>> "Todd Peer" 11/06/98 03:45PM >>> > ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* > > But there must be some reason that millions of other people love > it....hmmmm. > > Todd > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 10:07:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22252 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:07:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04450 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:07:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA03456 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:06:57 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WAYWa03291 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:06:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:06:25 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Music Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/9/98 10:04:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, ghowell@XXXXXX writes: << Not to offend the ladies, but why does Alanis Morisette appear naked in a video, and Shania Twain doesn't? Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with this world. >> I think Im gonna be sick...... Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 10:13:44 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22379 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:13:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:14:03 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:13:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:12:50 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, true@XXXXXX Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >>> "Mark E. Truelove" - 11/9/98 9:32 AM >>> Where do you normally get Kreme? Dennis Kirk has it; most cycle shop sell it too, especially ones that deal with older bikes (Moto Europa here). Oh, and I've used a handful of old nuts & bolts to shake in the tank to loosen heavy rust. Joe Richmond. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 10:16:42 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA22426 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:16:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A7552D5020E; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:16:37 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981109101527.00fe7190@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:16:25 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup In-Reply-To: <199811091436.JAA03358@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> References: <19981109124059.18516.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:32 AM 11/9/98 , Mark E. Truelove wrote: > >Where do you normally get Kreme? Buy a Harley. Oops ... wrong thread. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 10:56:25 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23010 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:56:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA22611; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:46:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981109154612.OCYH649@XXXXXX>; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:46:12 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "Ray" , Subject: RE: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:44:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000801be0bf7$d429f620$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA15C@MSCEX> Importance: Normal Relax Collin, I won't be moving to country anytime soon, driving up the price of the perty bim-crooners or crowding any of the ten-gallon hat, snake-skin boot, western shirt, tight jean wearin' honky tonks out there. Can I have a YeeHAW! YEEEEEHAAAW! I knew you could. Todd (giddy-up pardna') Collin Fagan wrote: > -----Original Message----- > Awww..now you're going and ruining things... > Just like up in the pacific northwest...As much as we keep trying to tell > everyone that it rains all the time and is absolutely miserable, some damn > fool goes and tells a Californian how wonderful it is....next > thing you know > they're all moving up there to buy summer homes and drive up the > real estate > prices, crowd the highways, etc. etc. etc. > > So, i'll set the record straight right off the bat... Country Wominz ain't > no good...they can't cook, can't clean, and don't know how to > give their men > any goo luvins!!! :) > I also have this bridge I'd like to show you..... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:00 AM > > To: Ray; SCOTT Rush; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; snake69@XXXXXX; > > jstpeter@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: RE: Music > > > > (said in my best Homer Simpson voice)....mmmMmmm, country bimbos. > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 11:03:47 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23150 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:03:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16273; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:50:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:03:23 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA162@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Todd Peer'" , Ray , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:03:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain YEEEHHAAAW... :) What's wrong with Cowboy hats???? And hey...I wear boots.... (not snakeskin though...my critters would probably mutiny).. Ok, so I guess I'm guilty of the western shirt, semi-tight jeans,a nd honky tonkin stuff too :) he he he... But my musioc collection is pretty diverse... For some strange reason, I love Black Sabbath and some newer Ozzy stuff...as well as Zeppelin, Nugent (gawd he has some funny ones), Joe Walsh, etc. Throw in some Metallica, and various Classical, and then add lots of country CD's to the mix... and oh yeah, I have all but one or two RUSH albums...now there's a band... > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:44 AM > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG; Ray; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: RE: Music > > Relax Collin, > > I won't be moving to country anytime soon, driving up the price of the > perty bim-crooners or crowding any of the ten-gallon hat, snake-skin boot, > western shirt, tight jean wearin' honky tonks out there. > > Can I have a YeeHAW! YEEEEEHAAAW! > > I knew you could. > > Todd (giddy-up pardna') > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 11:22:02 1998 Return-Path: mberman@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (mberman@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23473 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id LAA14774; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:21:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:21:55 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles , GPz Mailing List Subject: Disintegrated Clutch Update Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I decided that I"d better drop the oil pan. And I am VERY glad I did. It was full of metal shards and pieces up to .5" in diamter. I had to drop the exhaust to get to the oil pan though. Although I did not drain the cooland and remove the radiator as the service manual suggested. While I've got the exhaust off, is there anything I should do to it? IT's got a lot of surface rust on it, should it be cleaned and painted or anything? Unfortunatley I can't afford to replace it, although it is awfully heavy. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 11:33:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA23638 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05955 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:33:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA08000 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:33:22 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WCSOa10440 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:32:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6d428a58.3647192f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:32:47 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: ERC survivors? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Quiet list today... anyone survive the ERC? Hopefully everyone's just thawing out! ;p BTW, anyone know when the ERC sign-up begins in the Spring? Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 11:47:12 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA23946 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:48:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:47:57 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Losing my happy home. :-( Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Tracy. Todd, where do you live again? Still need a roommate? Do = you cook? :-) Scooter >>> "Horstman, Tracy L" 11/09/98 10:23AM >>> Todd Peer's been looking for a roomate. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 12:04:52 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24205 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:03:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811091703.MAA24205@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:55:38 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:52:28 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Thanks for the ride Robert.. it was fun... Even if the pace was a tad on the slow side, I enjoyed just getting out for the ride.. And I got all the speed I wanted going back home (made it 80-some miles in just under an hour. Home at 5:04pm). Sorry again for running up on you in the corners.. Brian McCoy > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [mailto:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 11:33 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: ERC survivors? > > > Quiet list today... anyone survive the ERC? Hopefully > everyone's just thawing > out! ;p BTW, anyone know when the ERC sign-up begins in the Spring? > > Robert VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 12:04:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24211 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:04:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06571 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA09756 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:04:41 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WQHCa07909 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:03:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:03:47 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Music - Thelonius Monk Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 President Clinton once told Tabitha Soren of MTV news that he had always wanted to jam with Thelonius Monk....And Ms. Soren responded "Who's the lonliest monk?" True story. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 12:05:04 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24214 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:04:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811091704.MAA24214@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:56:59 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: What's this bike? Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:53:46 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Cagive Alazzurra Super Sport Someone offered to trade it to me for my RS125.. only I don't know the bike at all.. Thanks for any information.. Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 12:21:06 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA24513 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23146; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:08:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:21:18 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA16B@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'McCoy, Brian NAB02'" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:21:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain You Hooligan... You're starting to sound a lot like me!! Scary thought ain't it... > -----Original Message----- > From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [SMTP:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:19 PM > To: 'dc' > Subject: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? > And I got all the > speed I wanted going back home (made it 80-some miles in just under an > hour. > Home at 5:04pm). > > Sorry again for running up on you in the corners.. > > Brian McCoy > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:16:22 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25493 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:16:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109181803.8558.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:18:03 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:18:03 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup To: "Mark E. Truelove" , DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Any bike shop should have it, if you can't find it contact me off-list at raymondlucas@XXXXXX and I'll give you a good mail/phone order source, where I get all my stuff (I hate to sound like a corporate shill but if anyone else wants to know contact me) Ray ---"Mark E. Truelove" wrote: > > > Where do you normally get Kreme? > > MET > > At 07:40 AM 11/9/98 , Ray wrote: > >The best cheap way is to get some muriatic acid (swimming pool acid) > >from Wal-Mart. You can get the same stuff labelled as tank > >cleaner/deruster for three times the price. Remove petcock, drain > >tank, cover petcock hole & vent, fill, slosh around, don't get any on > >you. If you have loose rust use a few dozen different size ball > >bearings (we used gravel too) to move around, after it's clean rinse > >the hell out of it to get every drop of acid out then blow all the > >water out. Kreem brand is the best but you have to follow the > >directions. Almost all of the complaints you see about Kreem are > >idiots not following directions. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ > ======================================================================= > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:18:18 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25519 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:18:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA07820 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:17:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA.COM (known pasha.com [207.32.107.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12478 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:13:51 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:13:19 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: NJitzul@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: ERC Survivors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline RE: ERC Survivors? Everybody survived the ERC. Ray Lucas put on a great course in the classroom and out on the range, sessions which together lasted most of Saturday. Dave Wakefield and Scooter assisted Ray deal with 12 riders in the parking lot. They switched the range exercises quickly, kept the crowd moving and gave everyone tips on improving their riding. I think everyone passed except Leslie Forthwright, who made no attempt to hide that he was an Auburn fan. Sean Sullivan From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:19:40 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25548 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:19:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109182112.10555.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:21:12 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:21:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: DC MC Parking To: Todd Peer , JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Where are these metered MC parking spots downtown DC near the touristy-type stuff, like Smithsonian, Washington Monument, Etc? BTW, I visited the what I thought was the monument to our first president, but the Jefferson Memorial had nothing to do with Jefferson Davis. Ray ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > Marcy, > > Where are you parking downtown? Is it a motorcycle spot? When I go > downtown and know I'm only popping in and out of wherever, I just park up on > the sidewalk trying to stay inconspicous. The only thing I worry about then > is the police....HA! Easy enough since DC has those little flower bed/tree > bed thingys on the sidewalk. Just park next to there. > > It really sucks all the same. Barring being able to park on the sidewalk, > try parking as conspicuously as possible and in a place where lots of people > can see. > > Todd > > > > Marcy wrote: > > for the SECOND TIME IN SIX MONTHS some jerk backed into my > > legally parked bike > > and knocked it over - > > > > Any suggestions on how I can prevent a third installment guys? > > and does this > > happen to anyone else or am I all alone????? :( > > > > -a rather disgruntled Marcy > > > > p.s. well anyway, now I test drive my insurance company .... Ha! > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:21:00 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25652 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:20:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109182232.18373.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:22:32 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:22:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: RE: Music To: George Howell , SCOTT Rush , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, jstpeter@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I propose a referendum on the next ballet to have Shania appear naked. ---George Howell wrote: > > Not to offend the ladies, but why does Alanis Morisette appear naked in a > video, and Shania Twain doesn't? Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with this > world. > > ---------------------------------------- > -George Howell > ghowell@XXXXXX > georgehowell@XXXXXX > "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > > > I suggest STTV (Shania Twain Television). All Shania, all the time! > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:22:00 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25672 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:21:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109182327.18909.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:23:27 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:23:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: RE: Music To: SCOTT Rush , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, jstpeter@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I never said I listened to Shania, I look at Shania. She might even replace Kathy Ireland as my Ultimate Fantasy Babe. ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > Hmmmmm......A Shania fan, huh? She's got some good stuff, but some of it I can't stand. I'm going to see Reba (grrrr) this weekend. RTV (Reba Television) sounds good to me. :-) > Scooter > > >>> Ray 11/09/98 07:20AM >>> > I suggest STTV (Shania Twain Television). All Shania, all the time! > > > > > ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > > > It's not the music, it's the women who sing the music. Reba > (grrrrr), Trisha Yearwood, Wynonna, etc. ;-) > > > > Scooter > > > > >>> "Todd Peer" 11/06/98 03:45PM >>> > > ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* > > > > But there must be some reason that millions of other people love > > it....hmmmm. > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:27:18 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25788 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:27:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109182911.11633.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:29:10 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:29:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Losing my happy home. :-( To: SCOTT Rush , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii He's still signing his email Scooter. Obviously he forgot his new name is Coneboy. Ray ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > > Scooter (I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:28:48 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25810 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:28:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109183041.12769.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:30:41 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:30:41 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: RE: Music To: Tom Zell , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You're welcome. It's the least we could do to brighten your dark, dreary day. ---Tom Zell wrote: > > When did DC-Cycles become DC-Music?? Thanks for tying up my bandwidth with > non-moto related crap. > > Thank you, thank you very much, > > Tom > '86 VFR750 > > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX ; snake69@XXXXXX > ; jstpeter@XXXXXX ; > todd.b.peer@XXXXXX ; raymondlucas@XXXXXX > > Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:02 AM > Subject: Re: RE: Music > > > Hmmmmm......A Shania fan, huh? She's got some good stuff, but some of it I > can't stand. I'm going to see Reba (grrrr) this weekend. RTV (Reba > Television) sounds good to me. :-) > Scooter > > >>> Ray 11/09/98 07:20AM >>> > I suggest STTV (Shania Twain Television). All Shania, all the time! > > > > > ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > > > It's not the music, it's the women who sing the music. Reba > (grrrrr), Trisha Yearwood, Wynonna, etc. ;-) > > > > Scooter > > > > >>> "Todd Peer" 11/06/98 03:45PM >>> > > ******* COUNTRY SUCKS TOO ******* > > > > But there must be some reason that millions of other people love > > it....hmmmm. > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:33:28 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25893 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:33:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109183345.18362.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:33:45 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:33:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: RE: Music To: Todd Peer , "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How about you take up a collection to move me into the country? That will take care of my needing to find a place to live and quit my bitching about the city in one move. ---Todd Peer wrote: > > Relax Collin, > > I won't be moving to country anytime soon, driving up the price of the > perty bim-crooners or crowding any of the ten-gallon hat, snake-skin boot, > western shirt, tight jean wearin' honky tonks out there. > > Can I have a YeeHAW! YEEEEEHAAAW! > > I knew you could. > > Todd (giddy-up pardna') > > Collin Fagan wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > Awww..now you're going and ruining things... > > Just like up in the pacific northwest...As much as we keep trying to tell > > everyone that it rains all the time and is absolutely miserable, some damn > > fool goes and tells a Californian how wonderful it is....next > > thing you know > > they're all moving up there to buy summer homes and drive up the > > real estate > > prices, crowd the highways, etc. etc. etc. > > > > So, i'll set the record straight right off the bat... Country Wominz ain't > > no good...they can't cook, can't clean, and don't know how to > > give their men > > any goo luvins!!! :) > > I also have this bridge I'd like to show you..... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:00 AM > > > To: Ray; SCOTT Rush; dc-cycles@XXXXXX; snake69@XXXXXX; > > > jstpeter@XXXXXX > > > Subject: RE: RE: Music > > > > > > (said in my best Homer Simpson voice)....mmmMmmm, country bimbos. > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:35:11 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA25927 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:34:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29532; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:22:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:35:54 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEA3@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Ray'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: DC MC Parking Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:35:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Ray, If you need to come downtown afterhours or on weekends, park in the DOT building. All you'll need to do is flash em your id card and sign in as parking on the ground floor.. If you need a room number to put in the log sheet, just use mine (on the global address list). We're 1 block from the Aerospace museum and the rest of the mall... > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 1:30 PM > To: Todd Peer; JinnSinn@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: DC MC Parking > > Where are these metered MC parking spots downtown DC near the > touristy-type stuff, like Smithsonian, Washington Monument, Etc? > BTW, I visited the what I thought was the monument to our first > president, but the Jefferson Memorial had nothing to do with Jefferson > Davis. > Ray > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:35:35 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26006 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:35:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109183708.3790.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:37:08 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:37:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As far as I'm concerned there's only two types of music: Grateful Dead and everything else. ---"Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: > > YEEEHHAAAW... :) > > What's wrong with Cowboy hats???? And hey...I wear boots.... (not snakeskin > though...my critters would probably mutiny).. > Ok, so I guess I'm guilty of the western shirt, semi-tight jeans,a nd honky > tonkin stuff too :) > > he he he... > But my musioc collection is pretty diverse... For some strange reason, I > love Black Sabbath and some newer Ozzy stuff...as well as Zeppelin, Nugent > (gawd he has some funny ones), Joe Walsh, etc. Throw in some Metallica, and > various Classical, and then add lots of country CD's to the mix... > and oh yeah, I have all but one or two RUSH albums...now there's a band... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 10:44 AM > > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG; Ray; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: RE: Music > > > > Relax Collin, > > > > I won't be moving to country anytime soon, driving up the price of the > > perty bim-crooners or crowding any of the ten-gallon hat, snake-skin boot, > > western shirt, tight jean wearin' honky tonks out there. > > > > Can I have a YeeHAW! YEEEEEHAAAW! > > > > I knew you could. > > > > Todd (giddy-up pardna') > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:36:50 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26019 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA18830 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:36:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811091836.NAA18830@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:35:57 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE5.E1CD5860" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE5.E1CD5860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I suggest STTV (Shania Twain Television). All Shania, all the time! > Shania Twain is proof that all you need is looks and money. Talent is optional. If it wasn't for her husband's money, Shania would be a nobody. Her videos are good, as long as I turn off the music. Otherwise, my poor dog starts howling..... Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE5.E1CD5860 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I suggest STTV (Shania Twain = Television).  All Shania, all the time!  
>
Shania Twain is proof that all you need is looks and = money.  Talent
is optional.  If it wasn't for her = husband's money, Shania would be a
nobody.  Her videos are = good, as long as I turn off the music.  

Otherwise, my poor = dog starts howling.....

Snake


------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE5.E1CD5860-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:38:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26039 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:38:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08153 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:38:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (known relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13219 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:38:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zcwCS-0003Ga-00; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:38:04 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:36:24 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF6435@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: New Helmet Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:35:39 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Well, I finally got myself a new helmet, one that FITS this time! I had been riding wearing an HJC helmet, size small, which was too big for me, too heavy and LOUD. I purchased a Shoei RF800 this weekend and the difference is amazing! The helmet is much lighter and the noise reduction is unbelievable. I had originally wanted an Arai Quantum, but the price was so high AND they didn't have my size, so I went with the Shoei instead. Since someone had been asking about helmets last week, I thought I'd put my vote in for the Shoei RF 800. - Jeannette '85 VFR 700 F2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:45:45 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26225 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:45:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA21894 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:45:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811091845.NAA21894@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:44:59 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE7.24B2C880" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE7.24B2C880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > YEEEHHAAAW... :) > > What's wrong with Cowboy hats???? And hey...I wear boots.... (not snakeskin > though...my critters would probably mutiny).. > Ok, so I guess I'm guilty of the western shirt, semi-tight jeans,a nd honky > tonkin stuff too :) You won't find me not in cowboy boots. I have been wearing them since I got my first pair of shoes. When I joined the army, I had to go and buy a pair of sneakers because didn't even own a pair. The only music I know how to dance to is western music (I like western and tolerate country). I also have only western clothes. Of course, when I am back home, I dress like everyone else. Only here is it considered dressing funny. > he he he... > But my musioc collection is pretty diverse... For some strange reason, I > love Black Sabbath and some newer Ozzy stuff...as well as Zeppelin, Nugent > (gawd he has some funny ones), Joe Walsh, etc. Throw in some Metallica, and > various Classical, and then add lots of country CD's to the mix... > and oh yeah, I have all but one or two RUSH albums...now there's a band... Rush...... You and my wife will get along. I tend to like the bands with talent....Like The Who.... :) ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE7.24B2C880 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> YEEEHHAAAW... :)
>
> = What's wrong with Cowboy hats????  And hey...I wear boots.... (not = snakeskin
> though...my critters would probably mutiny)..
> = Ok, so I guess I'm guilty of the western shirt, semi-tight jeans,a nd = honky
> tonkin stuff too :)

You = won't find me not in cowboy boots.  I have been wearing them =
since I got my first pair of shoes.  When I joined the army, I = had to
go and buy a pair of sneakers because  didn't even own a = pair.  
The only music I know how to dance to is western music = (I like
western and tolerate country).

I also have only = western clothes.  Of course, when I am back home,
I dress like = everyone else.  Only here is it considered dressing = funny.

> he he he...
> But my = musioc collection is pretty diverse... For some strange reason, = I
> love Black Sabbath and some newer Ozzy stuff...as well as = Zeppelin, Nugent
> (gawd he has some funny ones), Joe Walsh, etc. =  Throw in some Metallica, and
> various Classical, and then = add lots of country CD's to the mix...
> and oh yeah, I have all = but one or two RUSH albums...now there's a band...

Rush......  You and my wife will get along. =  I tend to like the bands
with talent....Like The Who.... =  :)

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE7.24B2C880-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:48:21 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26293 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:48:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109184953.6084.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:49:53 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:49:53 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: What's this bike? To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I must have missed the original email. I have a Cagiva Alazzurra (not SS). Do you want to know something about them? Ray ---"McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > > Cagive Alazzurra Super Sport > > Someone offered to trade it to me for my RS125.. only I don't know the bike > at all.. > > Thanks for any information.. > > Brian McCoy > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:49:23 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26318 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:49:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA23018; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:49:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811091849.NAA23018@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Subject: Re: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:48:25 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE7.9F774FA0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE7.9F774FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Thanks for the ride Robert.. it was fun... Even if the pace was a tad on > the slow side, I enjoyed just getting out for the ride.. And I got all the > speed I wanted going back home (made it 80-some miles in just under an hour. > Home at 5:04pm). > > Sorry again for running up on you in the corners.. The pace was good for me, but remember, I was on a much heavier sled with my wife on the back. Not exactly the same set up you have. I also tend to drive very sanely with my wife. If I kill myself, oh well. But I would not want to take her out. As for killing myself, I have no intentions of making any woman $200,000 richer (SGLI for those military types that know what I am talking about). Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE7.9F774FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Thanks for the ride Robert.. it = was fun...  Even if the pace was a tad on
> the slow side, I = enjoyed just getting out for the ride..  And I got all the
> = speed I wanted going back home (made it 80-some miles in just under an = hour.
> Home at 5:04pm).
>
> Sorry again for running = up on you in the corners..

The pace was = good for me, but remember, I was on a much heavier
sled with my wife = on the back.  Not exactly the same set up you have.  
I = also tend to drive very sanely with my wife.  If I kill myself, oh = well.  
But I would not want to take her out.

As for = killing myself, I have no intentions of making any woman
$200,000 = richer (SGLI for those military types that know what I am
talking = about).

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE7.9F774FA0-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:52:54 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA26447 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:52:52 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA05088; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:54:28 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma004802; Mon, 9 Nov 98 13:52:51 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F2600CY94E9O1@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:51:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B7.006741F8 ; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:47:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:48:29 -0500 Subject: RE: RE: Music To: Ray Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B7.00673BBA.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I thought she was a country western singer, not a patron of the fine arts. :-) In any event can you cast ballots at the ballet, like you can at the Baseball All-star game or something? :-) --chris To: George Howell , SCOTT Rush , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, jstpeter@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX cc: From: Ray Date: 11/09/98 06:22:32 PM GMT Subject: RE: RE: Music I propose a referendum on the next ballet to have Shania appear naked. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:53:26 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26467 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA22152 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:53:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811091853.NAA22152@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:52:41 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE8.3841B0E0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE8.3841B0E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > When did DC-Cycles become DC-Music?? Thanks for tying up my bandwidth with > non-moto related crap. And your point is? > Thank you, thank you very much, You're welcome. What's wrong with any discussion between motorcyclists? It would get pretty boring f the only discussion here was about bikes. It is just refreshing to read the opinions of my brothers and sisters who also ride. Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE8.3841B0E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> When did DC-Cycles become = DC-Music??  Thanks for tying up my bandwidth with
> non-moto = related crap.

And your point = is?

> Thank you, thank you very = much,

You're welcome.  What's wrong = with any discussion between
motorcyclists?  It would get pretty = boring f the only discussion
here was about bikes.  It is just = refreshing to read the opinions
of my brothers and sisters who also = ride.

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0BE8.3841B0E0-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:55:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26521 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:55:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08514 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (known send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA13878 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:55:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109185612.3257.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:56:12 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:56:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: ERC Survivors? To: Sean Sullivan , NJitzul@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Back when I was in the biker club in the Florida Keys we used to have a Survivors Party after Bike Week. Everyone who did not get killed or wrecked in Daytona went and had a great time and another opportunity to get killed or wrecked. Why not have an ERC Survivors Party? I would have it at my place, but it's a hovel and I'm embarrassed to have anyone see it. Ray ---Sean Sullivan wrote: > > RE: ERC Survivors? > > Everybody survived the ERC. Ray Lucas put on a great course in the classroom and out on the range, sessions > which together lasted most of Saturday. Dave Wakefield and Scooter assisted Ray deal with 12 riders in the > parking lot. They switched the range exercises quickly, kept the crowd moving and gave everyone tips on > improving their riding. > I think everyone passed except Leslie Forthwright, who made no attempt to hide that he was an Auburn fan. > Sean Sullivan > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 13:58:34 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA26618 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by torrentnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08774 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA12536; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:57:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981109185725.QTTB649@XXXXXX>; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:57:25 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , , Subject: RE: DC MC Parking Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:55:17 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01be0c12$7e31f360$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981109182112.10555.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal I think Chris Norloff has a list of all the MC parking spaces downtown. Chris? Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [mailto:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 1:21 PM > To: Todd Peer; JinnSinn@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: DC MC Parking > > > Where are these metered MC parking spots downtown DC near the > touristy-type stuff, like Smithsonian, Washington Monument, Etc? > BTW, I visited the what I thought was the monument to our first > president, but the Jefferson Memorial had nothing to do with Jefferson > Davis. > Ray > > > > > ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > > > > Marcy, > > > > Where are you parking downtown? Is it a motorcycle spot? When I go > > downtown and know I'm only popping in and out of wherever, I just > park up on > > the sidewalk trying to stay inconspicous. The only thing I worry > about then > > is the police....HA! Easy enough since DC has those little flower > bed/tree > > bed thingys on the sidewalk. Just park next to there. > > > > It really sucks all the same. Barring being able to park on the > sidewalk, > > try parking as conspicuously as possible and in a place where lots > of people > > can see. > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > Marcy wrote: > > > for the SECOND TIME IN SIX MONTHS some jerk backed into my > > > legally parked bike > > > and knocked it over - > > > > > > Any suggestions on how I can prevent a third installment guys? > > > and does this > > > happen to anyone else or am I all alone????? :( > > > > > > -a rather disgruntled Marcy > > > > > > p.s. well anyway, now I test drive my insurance company .... Ha! > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 14:02:09 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26694 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:02:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08728 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:02:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (known mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14057 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:02:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17889 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:02:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.187.136.56]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #20544) with ESMTP id <0F26003WO4UZZM@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:01:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 14:03:18 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:59:02 -0500 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: Bye again To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5ABE76B1@EMSS09M05> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-type: text/plain Sorry, gang, traffic just too high on the list for me to keep up and work too. Since Dale won't get a job where it'll pay for me to stay home and not work, I guess I better get to work. Gonna miss you all. Dale will keep me in the loop on the exciting stuff - he knows me well enough. If anyone has anything that they think I'd might especially like, please feel free to e-mail me directly - tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX -or- horstman@XXXXXX Take Care - Tracy Tracy L. Horstman UNIX System Administrator Lockheed Martin Mission Sysrems 9255 Wellington Rd. Manassas, VA 20110 Voice: (703) 367-2981 Fax: (703) 367-1389 E-mail: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 14:07:32 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26794 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:07:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109190904.25647.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:09:04 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:09:04 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used to listen to tapes on prisoner watch, to mix it up I'd play (for example) Alice Cooper, then Benny Goodman, then Black Sabbath, then Charlie Ryan. When they acted up I'd play Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen and tell them I'll keep playing it until they settled down. Never had to hit or threaten anyone, unless you count playing Commander Cody as assault. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > > YEEEHHAAAW... :) > > > > What's wrong with Cowboy hats???? And hey...I wear boots.... (not > snakeskin > > though...my critters would probably mutiny).. > > Ok, so I guess I'm guilty of the western shirt, semi-tight jeans,a nd > honky > > tonkin stuff too :) > > You won't find me not in cowboy boots. I have been wearing them > since I got my first pair of shoes. When I joined the army, I had to > go and buy a pair of sneakers because didn't even own a pair. > The only music I know how to dance to is western music (I like > western and tolerate country). > > I also have only western clothes. Of course, when I am back home, > I dress like everyone else. Only here is it considered dressing funny. > > > he he he... > > But my musioc collection is pretty diverse... For some strange reason, I > > love Black Sabbath and some newer Ozzy stuff...as well as Zeppelin, > Nugent > > (gawd he has some funny ones), Joe Walsh, etc. Throw in some Metallica, > and > > various Classical, and then add lots of country CD's to the mix... > > and oh yeah, I have all but one or two RUSH albums...now there's a > band... > > Rush...... You and my wife will get along. I tend to like the bands > with talent....Like The Who.... :)

> YEEEHHAAAW... :)
>
> What's wrong with Cowboy hats????  And hey...I wear boots.... (not snakeskin
> though...my critters would probably mutiny)..
> Ok, so I guess I'm guilty of the western shirt, semi-tight jeans,a nd honky
> tonkin stuff too :)

You won't find me not in cowboy boots.  I have been wearing them
since I got my first pair of shoes.  When I joined the army, I had to
go and buy a pair of sneakers because  didn't even own a pair.  
The only music I know how to dance to is western music (I like
western and tolerate country).

I also have only western clothes.  Of course, when I am back home,
I dress like everyone else.  Only here is it considered dressing funny.

> he he he...
> But my musioc collection is pretty diverse... For some strange reason, I
> love Black Sabbath and some newer Ozzy stuff...as well as Zeppelin, Nugent
> (gawd he has some funny ones), Joe Walsh, etc.  Throw in some Metallica, and
> various Classical, and then add lots of country CD's to the mix...
> and oh yeah, I have all but one or two RUSH albums...now there's a band...

Rush......  You and my wife will get along.  I tend to like the bands
with talent....Like The Who....  :)

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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 14:14:37 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA26908 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AF174C0444; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 14:14:31 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981109140043.01b43970@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 14:01:37 -0500 To: Ray , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: DC MC Parking In-Reply-To: <19981109182112.10555.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:21 PM 11/9/98 , Ray wrote: >Where are these metered MC parking spots downtown DC near the >touristy-type stuff, like Smithsonian, Washington Monument, Etc? I got this faxed to me from the DC Dept. of Public Works, Transportation Systems Administration, 14 January 1997. Not sure how current they all are. Chris Norloff ********************************************************************** Parking Tips: 1. When parked in spaces designed for their exclusive use, motorcycles must park in designated areas with rear wheel to the curb. 2. Metered parking is in effect during the hours posted. 3. No motorized vehicle without pedals shall park on islands or sidewalks. 4. Park one motorcycle per stall. 5. Most parking is metered for 12 hours, at 25 cents per hour. 6. Motorcycles may park in metered zones for automobiles providing the parking meter is paid. When parked in spaces designed for automobiles, motorcycles should park parallel to the curb. 800 block Vermont Ave, NW -- 23 spaces 800 block C St. SW -- 10 600 block Indiana Ave. NW -- 6 600 block G St. NW --6 200 block Independence Ave SE -- 9 600 block 2nd St. NW -- 10 spaces 2000 block T St NW -- 10 1300 block New York Ave NW -- 10 1700 block M St. NW -- 31 1400 block G St. NW -- 14 2100 block Eye St. NW -- 10 spaces 1800 block H St NW -- 16 2200 block E St NW -- 9 Unit block G St NW -- 8 1100 block Vermont Ave NW -- 10 1200 block New Hampshire Ave NW -- 20 spaces 1500 block 19th St NW -- 7 1700 block G St NW -- 11 2200 block F St NW -- 6 1400 block M St NW -- 6 300 block Eye St NW -- 14 spaces 600 block E St NW -- 6 900 block 15th St NW -- 12 1800 block Eye St NW -- 9 1300 block K St NW -- 9 1800 block Pennsylvania Ave NW -- 9 spaces 2000 block Florida Ave NW -- 10 300 block Virginia Ave SW -- 10 1800 block M St NW -- 24 1100 block Thomas Jefferson St NW -- 5 3000 block VanNess St NW -- 13 spaces 2500 block 6th St NW -- 10 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 14:18:55 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA26967 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:18:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 250; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:17:25 -0500 Message-ID: <36474009.9B6A7781@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 14:18:33 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray CC: Todd Peer , "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music References: <19981109183345.18362.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > > How about you take up a collection to move me into the country? That > will take care of my needing to find a place to live and quit my > bitching about the city in one move. Doubt it. The south lost the war over 130 years ago, and you are still bitching about that, too. :) Some people just live to complain! :) (Notice the smileys!) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 14:21:32 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27049 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:21:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 244; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:19:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3647408F.5CF51AEA@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 14:20:47 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray CC: Todd Peer , JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC MC Parking References: <19981109182112.10555.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > > BTW, I visited the what I thought was the monument to our first > president, but the Jefferson Memorial had nothing to do with > Jefferson Davis. I was disappointed, too. It had nothing to do with George and "Weezie", either. ;( Guess I'll just stick to watching 'em on re-runs... Horkster -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 15:43:37 1998 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov ([199.128.203.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA28747 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:43:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by DCHQEXS1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:42:10 -0500 Message-ID: <43CE126D7B6AD111A5910000F80154B5011D36C7@DCHQEXS1> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Subject: gas tank cleanup Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:42:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "George Howell" I have to do is get some rust out of the tank. Collin T. Fagan replied, "What you need to do, is to get some acid...battery electrolite works well." =20 Phosphoric acid, from home centers etc., should work better for rust while minimizing tank etching. Step 4- To knock off major rust, first add sand & water. Shake & slosh to scour off big rust. Then go to the acid treatment. Oxalic, or = citric acid would be even better for removing rust but they're hard to find in the quantities needed. =20 Step 2 - after removing tank & emptying gasoline - before anything = else, remove the gas cock. It likely has a small filter/screen attached that needs cleaning. =20 Step 3 - Get an appropriately sized neoprene stoppers (hardware store) for the gas cock hole & the filler hole.=20 "Drain and repeat several times, then flush with copius amounts of water." Double " boy howdy" to that. having two open holes will facilitate flushing.=20 "After doing this, you're not going to wat to leave the tank sitting = dry for any length of time or the rust will return. You also might want to coat the inside of the tank with "Kreme" when you're done." The acid in the "Kreme" kit is phosphoric acid. It's often too little but prescouring with sand & water will help. Here's where the neoprene stoppers will help; I've read of folks Kreming their fuel screens ;^(. After fixing the tank, you should consider: 1) cleaning the carbs (they may have both shellac and rusty bits) 2) installing an in-line fuel filter - not just a fine screen. Wally Mart has Fram G-2 for ~$2.50; NAPA has clear ones for maybe 2 bits = more. In any case, they're big, cheap fuel filters.=20 3) replace ALL fluids including fork fluid. If it's liquid cooled, it's a great time to switch to non silicate coolant; the cheap stuff at Wally's or Trak, not the prediluted $tuff at MC shops.=20 =BFBTW, What kind of bike?=20 (Other things done/doing: lube and adjust cables, adjust brake, replace brake fluid, change oil, clean, clean, clean, new spark plugs, maybe = new tires (dad thinks they are a bit cracked, I don't see it) fill and charge battery.) George Howell "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" Carl S. Custer Bethesda, MD=20 '85 VF700S "Rocin-ahorito" '80 GS450E "Caballoante"; FOM #3, AMA = 676120 Commuting into your nation's capitol since 1981 through rain, sun, and snow, but no ice!=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 16:00:10 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA29113 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:00:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981109210152.461.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 13:01:52 PST Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:01:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup To: "Custer, Carl" , "'DCCy'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used phosphoric acid on a tank once, now I'm a convert to muratic acid. Phosphoric works great, but a little too great sometimes, and is harder to get rid of. You can also get Phosporic acid in a relatively-safe cleaner by the brand name Phoz in an industrial or boating store. ---"Custer, Carl" wrote: > > From: "George Howell" > I have to do is get some rust out of the tank. > Collin T. Fagan replied, > "What you need to do, is to get some acid...battery electrolite works > well." > Phosphoric acid, from home centers etc., should work better for rust > while minimizing tank etching. > Step 4- To knock off major rust, first add sand & water. Shake & slosh > to scour off big rust. Then go to the acid treatment. Oxalic, or citric > acid would be even better for removing rust but they're hard to find in > the quantities needed. > Step 2 - after removing tank & emptying gasoline - before anything else, > remove the gas cock. It likely has a small filter/screen attached that > needs cleaning. > Step 3 - Get an appropriately sized neoprene stoppers (hardware store) > for the gas cock hole & the filler hole. > > "Drain and repeat several times, then flush with copius amounts of > water." > Double " boy howdy" to that. having two open holes will facilitate > flushing. > > "After doing this, you're not going to wat to leave the tank sitting dry > for any length of time or the rust will return. You also might want to > coat the inside of the tank with "Kreme" when you're done." > The acid in the "Kreme" kit is phosphoric acid. It's often too little > but prescouring with sand & water will help. Here's where the neoprene > stoppers will help; I've read of folks Kreming their fuel screens ;^(. > > After fixing the tank, you should consider: > 1) cleaning the carbs (they may have both shellac and rusty bits) > 2) installing an in-line fuel filter - not just a fine screen. Wally > Mart has Fram G-2 for ~$2.50; NAPA has clear ones for maybe 2 bits more. > In any case, they're big, cheap fuel filters. > 3) replace ALL fluids including fork fluid. If it's liquid cooled, it's > a great time to switch to non silicate coolant; the cheap stuff at > Wally's or Trak, not the prediluted $tuff at MC shops. > > ¿BTW, What kind of bike? > > (Other things done/doing: lube and adjust cables, adjust brake, replace > brake fluid, change oil, clean, clean, clean, new spark plugs, maybe new > tires (dad thinks they are a bit cracked, I don't see it) fill and > charge battery.) > > George Howell "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car > windows" > > Carl S. Custer Bethesda, MD > '85 VF700S "Rocin-ahorito" '80 GS450E "Caballoante"; FOM #3, AMA 676120 > Commuting into your nation's capitol since 1981 through rain, sun, and > snow, but no ice! > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 16:19:22 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA29452 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:19:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTM2RS42; Mon, 09 Nov 1998 16:13:19 EST To: cfagan@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music, Country, the Wimmen of Message-ID: <19981108.104905.5271.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA15C@mscex> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,16-20 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 16:13:19 EST All right. Let's get a few things straight about the wimmen of country music before it gets too far out of hand! :-) First, Shania Twain is the most overrated self-absorbed no-talent pretender in the business. If you saw that show about divas that she managed to weasel on to, you also saw how hopelessly outclassed she was on stage with some real competition. Her videos are as narcissistic as they can be. She's her own favorite artist. Now, Reba McIntyre can really sing, but there's something wrong with her looks. Maybe it's the fact that she can look through a keyhole with both eyes at the same time. She should never have cut her hair. And neither should Faith Hill have cut hers. Without her long, curly hair, it is noticeable that her nose is wide and that her mouth is so big that Julia Roberts, Mick Jagger, AND Steven Tyler are laughing at her. Plus, now her ears show, and she looks like a taxi cab with the doors open. I know no one mentioned Faith Hill, but I had to say something... I have more opinions on the wimmen of country, but I'll keep them to myself unless someone asks.... ;-) JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ps. My apologies to Tom Zell for tying up his bandwidth... ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 16:54:28 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA00239 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-99-39.s39.tnt13.ann.erols.com (207-172-99-39.s39.tnt13.ann.erols.com [207.172.99.39]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA07937 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:54:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811092154.QAA07937@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:04:23 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19981109190904.25647.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:09:04 -0800 (PST), Ray wrote: >I used to listen to tapes on prisoner watch, to mix it up I'd play >(for example) Alice Cooper, then Benny Goodman, then Black Sabbath, >then Charlie Ryan. When they acted up I'd play Commander Cody and His >Lost Planet Airmen and tell them I'll keep playing it until they >settled down. Never had to hit or threaten anyone, unless you count >playing Commander Cody as assault. I happen to like "Hot Rod Lincoln", etc. So that would not be assault. All you would have to do is put on some of that cRap music, and that would be cruel and inhumane treatment. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 17:16:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA00727 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:15:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA12505 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (known imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA22546 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:15:43 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WUTAa03786 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:14:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:14:56 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music - rap Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/9/98 5:00:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, snake69@XXXXXX writes: << I happen to like "Hot Rod Lincoln", etc. So that would not be assault. All you would have to do is put on some of that cRap music, and that would be cruel and inhumane treatment. >> OK OK, now I gotta step in. It takes ALOT more skill than you seem to think to create successful rap music. Its no less an art than rock, classical, etc. I always say when people suggest its junk or no skill involved, "hey sit down and write 14 songs, each 5 mins in length, where the verses rhyme and sound good. Then sit down and create a beat to go with them. Its a LOT harder than you think. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 17:38:18 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01114 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA12840 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:38:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA23518 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-99-39.s39.tnt13.ann.erols.com (207-172-99-39.s39.tnt13.ann.erols.com [207.172.99.39]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA02398; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:38:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811092238.RAA02398@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "WantAZX6@XXXXXX" Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:48:24 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music - rap On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:14:56 EST, WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: >OK OK, now I gotta step in. It takes ALOT more skill than you seem to think >to create successful rap music. Its no less an art than rock, classical, etc. >I always say when people suggest its junk or no skill involved, "hey sit down >and write 14 songs, each 5 mins in length, where the verses rhyme and sound >good. Then sit down and create a beat to go with them. Its a LOT harder than >you think. Maybe, but it is pure HELL to listen to it. I think I'll stick to music that has a melody. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 17:42:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01215 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:42:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA12882 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net (known mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA23629 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:42:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from brat.knowhere.net (port29.annex1.radix.net [209.48.225.29]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA03522 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:42:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36476FD5.208B@radix.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:42:29 -0500 From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Reply-To: dreamer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: SeeYa inna week Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm unsubscribing for a week or so. I'm off to California. SeeYa again on the 19th with major jet lag! Dawn From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 17:58:40 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA01491 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13155 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:58:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA24018 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:58:33 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WKDCa02301 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:57:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <29b2a237.36477341@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:57:05 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Rap vs. Rock Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Granted, it does take some inherent talent to create rap, but not as much as others. (Settling onto my soapbox...ahhhh...) I've worked in music production and studio engineering off and on for about the last 4 years.....rap music rarely sees any real musicians or instrumentalists. Anyone with a drum machine and a rhyming dictionary can produce feasible, credible rap. Most rap "artists" nowadays are involved very little in the actual production process. They have the image, and that's what sells. The entire rap, hip-hop industry is supported by a few succesful produces, (granted, for the most part they are legitimate musicians and producers.) Rock music takes a somewhat greater understanding of music and it's more technical aspects to produce competently. You also must, (usually), be proficient in the use of some sort of instrument. Live rap show and live rock shows are where the difference are most pronounced. A rock band could still perform if the power went out. They'd bust outn their guitars and whatnot. A rap act would be totally crippled without their various samplers, synths, and drum machines. Rap does take skill, but not as much as most other forms of music. You want to really talk about skill when it comes to music? Classical and jazz. That's some heavy shit. I've been studying music for a goodly chunk of my life, (almost half), and recently started studying jazz theory. Sometimes it's easier to understand Stephen J. Hawking. -Sean Jordan P.S. And as for country......can somebody pass the rap CD's?!?? From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 18:02:21 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01543 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:02:18 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr38-dialup50.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.76.114]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33509) with SMTP id <0F2600KEGFYPSZ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:01:45 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 18:03:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Disintegrated Clutch Update To: Morris Berman , DC Cycles Message-id: <004d01be0c35$362d6fe0$724c37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >I decided that I"d better drop the oil pan. And I am VERY glad I did. >It was full of metal shards and pieces up to .5" in diamter. > >I had to drop the exhaust to get to the oil pan though. Although I did >not drain the cooland and remove the radiator as the service manual >suggested. > >While I've got the exhaust off, is there anything I should do to it? >IT's got a lot of surface rust on it, should it be cleaned and painted or >anything? Unfortunatley I can't afford to replace it, although it is >awfully heavy. > >-Mb Holy crap, you haven't gotten that bike fixed yet? As far as those exhaust pipes, you can sand them down(lots of work) and paint them with hi-temp paint. Trak Auto has some ceramic coating hi-temp exhaust spray paint. I did this in the spring and the sanding was the worst part. If you want to get it perfect, get them sand blasted and then spray them. Keep coating them(thinly) and use the whole can. Good luck. Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 18:04:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA01582 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:04:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13250 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA24212 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:04:40 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WFNDa02539 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:03:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:03:51 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music - rap Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/9/98 5:38:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, snake69@XXXXXX writes: << I think I'll stick to music that has a melody. >> Melody is all relative isnt it? What is you idea of a melody, Snake Mozart? In fact, rap has an 100% melody. It has bass beat, supporting beats, mixing, etc. I love good rap music. Dont get me wrong, there is some pure trash out there on the rap scene but some guys (and girls) can do a damn good job. Besides, rap and r&b is about making you want to dance. Most non rap songs cant do that because they change tempo too often. Oh yeah, whoever that was, I also apologize for using up your bandwidth. Get a T1. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 18:37:32 1998 Return-Path: ursulina@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02136 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:37:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from ursulina (207-172-70-85.s85.tnt11.brd.erols.com [207.172.70.85]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA27343 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:37:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005e01be0c53$273116e0$5546accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "'dc'" Subject: Re: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:38:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hey, don't forget who was on your tail for most the ride home. Go little 454, go! :-D - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: Fagan, Collin LTJG To: 'McCoy, Brian NAB02' ; 'dc' Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 9:29 AM Subject: RE: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? >You Hooligan... You're starting to sound a lot like me!! Scary thought >ain't it... > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [SMTP:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 12:19 PM >> To: 'dc' >> Subject: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? >> And I got all the >> speed I wanted going back home (made it 80-some miles in just under an >> hour. >> Home at 5:04pm). >> >> Sorry again for running up on you in the corners.. >> >> Brian McCoy >> From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 18:58:15 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02457 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:58:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13762 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:58:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.rochester.rr.com (known mail2-1.twcny.rr.com [24.92.226.140]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA25430 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:58:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from bierman ([24.93.23.175]) by mail2.rochester.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:58:34 -0500 Message-ID: <006c01be0c3c$aae10fc0$af175d18@bierman.rochester.rr.com> From: "sheri bierman" To: Subject: Re: New Helmet Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:57:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Jeannette, What model HJC did you have before?? Also, did you try any other model Shoei? My girlfriend is curious - she has gone through 3 helmets in a year and a half and can't seem to find one that fits her properly.. she has a really small head ;o) and currently has a HJC CL-11 size XXS. She says it lifts off her head a lot - definitely doesn't fit her correctly. thanks, sheri ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ sheri bierman '94 Ninja 500 sbierman@XXXXXX sbierman@XXXXXX Come visit Broccoli Bikers Adventure Pages! http://members.xoom.com/ninja500 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ -----Original Message----- From: O'Brien, Jeannette To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Monday, November 09, 1998 2:00 PM Subject: New Helmet >Well, I finally got myself a new helmet, one that FITS this time! >I had been riding wearing an HJC helmet, size small, which was too big >for me, too heavy and LOUD. >I purchased a Shoei RF800 this weekend and the difference is amazing! >The helmet is much lighter and the noise reduction is unbelievable. I >had originally wanted an Arai Quantum, but the price was so high AND >they didn't have my size, so I went with the Shoei instead. >Since someone had been asking about helmets last week, I thought I'd put >my vote in for the Shoei RF 800. > >- Jeannette > '85 VFR 700 F2 > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 18:58:18 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA02461 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:58:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-183-98.s98.tnt20.brd.erols.com [207.172.183.98]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA15236 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:58:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000601be0c45$253bb7e0$62b7accf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: tools....needed... Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:57:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Does anyone have a "fork seal driver" ??????? I left mine back in Tennessee. I am in the process of rebuilding my front forks and didn't "think" to find my driver until after I had finished with the fork rebuild..a lil late to be looking for the much needed tool...genious huh.....anyway if anyone has one I am willing to rent it from you....I can buy another one but it will take longer to get here than it will for me to get mine in Tennessee when I go home for Turkey day...well thanxx... Les Kat 750... NX250 "the resurrection" From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 19:02:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02560 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA13842 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (known smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA25513 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:02:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA21169; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:03:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36487311.3A6840C0@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:08:33 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music - rap References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't exactly listen to a lot of Rap, but the biggest portion of it that I've heard 1) doesn't ryme 2) and they don't match the beat that they have with the words, and 3) usually they don't even create new beats..they just pull rythyms out of older rock songs... There are the exceptions that do sound OK even pleasant, but compared to other forms of music, they seem to have the biggest percentage that can't sing worth a damn.... My only real bitch with country music is that the songs are all too damn short... just as you're really getting into it, the songs ending :( WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > OK OK, now I gotta step in. It takes ALOT more skill than you seem to think > to create successful rap music. Its no less an art than rock, classical, etc. > I always say when people suggest its junk or no skill involved, "hey sit down > and write 14 songs, each 5 mins in length, where the verses rhyme and sound > good. Then sit down and create a beat to go with them. Its a LOT harder than > you think. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 19:10:58 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02695 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:10:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26024; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:12:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3648752A.1D62600D@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:17:30 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Leslie N. Forewright" CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: tools....needed... References: <000601be0c45$253bb7e0$62b7accf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Go to home depot and buy a piece of PVC pipe...total cost about $2.50. Works great, but you'll have a lot of pipe left over :) Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > > Does anyone have a "fork seal driver" ??????? -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 19:24:04 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA02907 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:24:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-183-98.s98.tnt20.brd.erols.com [207.172.183.98]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28995; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:24:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007701be0c48$bf668c20$62b7accf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" , "Ray" Subject: Re: RE: Music Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:23:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 N one could ever replace Kathy Ireland..... And yes, I wish that I would have worn my my Auburn "Tigers/War Eagles" hat and sweater.....Bama fans would have loved that huh.......Les Kat 750 I never said I listened to Shania, I look at Shania. She might even replace Kathy Ireland as my Ultimate Fantasy Babe. SCOTT Rush From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 19:43:53 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA03236 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-183-98.s98.tnt20.brd.erols.com [207.172.183.98]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA10884; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:43:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00e301be0c4b$82715ae0$62b7accf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: tools....needed... Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:43:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Subject: Re: tools....needed... Go to home depot and buy a piece of PVC pipe...total cost about $2.50. Works great, but you'll have a lot of pipe left over :) Sounds like a good idea.....what OEM serial number is it under???? heheehehehe ;D Les Kat 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 21:08:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA04501 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA15201 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:07:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA27922 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-02.dial.nova.org (ra1-02.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.162]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA13889 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:07:43 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Opinions wanted on weld/solder material Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:15:33 GMT Message-ID: <3650a146.485066686@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's one of those "miracle" products that I'm very tempted to check out. I'm no welder though, so I don't know if this stuff is reasonable or not. http://www.pagebiz.com/durafix/ Any real opinions would be appreciated. Thanks, Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 21:09:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA04513 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA15210 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA27936 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:08:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-02.dial.nova.org (ra1-02.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.162]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA13914 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:08:50 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: fighting a speeding ticket public records request form, etc Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:16:40 GMT Message-ID: <3651a1d6.485210648@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.norman-law.com/page40.html From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 22:31:35 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05800 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA15969 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:31:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (known imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA28973 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:31:29 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3OUEa02316; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:26:16 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <8a2ccdab.3647b258@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:26:16 EST To: snake69@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music - rap Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-09 17:44:35 EST, you write: << Maybe, but it is pure HELL to listen to it. >> Can I have an AMEN! *g* Lung *....and yes, that's my lowrider with 'IH8RAP' on the license plates!... not that I have an opinion or anything....* From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 22:40:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA05912 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:40:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA16025 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (known imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA29070 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:39:57 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id TYNPa09167; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:38:40 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:38:40 EST To: gixer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: No-Mot..RE: RE: Music - rap Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-09 19:11:51 EST, you write: << My only real bitch with country music is that the songs are all too damn short... just as you're really getting into it, the songs ending :( >> I once read a thesis that demonstrated that country music listening has a direct correlation with suicide rates... maybe when you're getting into it, the band just gets really depressed and off's themselves? X^O Lung *Thinking moto irrelevant and musically wide bandwidth thoughts but also wondering if anyone can actually recommend a decent winter glove manufacturer (gauntlet, if possible) My little pinkies r gettin chilly. *whine* * From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 22:53:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06130 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:53:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from ringding.cs.umd.edu (known ringding.cs.umd.edu [128.8.126.2]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA16123 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:53:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by ringding.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA02895 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA03714; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:52:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3648ABAD.DF36E536@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:10:05 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LungHD@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Gloves was Re: I hate rap References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Olympia makes several darn good models of winter gloves that are very warm AND offer great protection as well. Try http://www.sbaccess.com They seem to have some pretty good prices and a good selection of the entire line. Tell em I referred you from the EX500 list... (I don't get anything out of it, but they are also racers and it's good for them to know where people found their info from) Collin (who needs to find cool stuff to sell to support his racing as well....) LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > *Thinking moto irrelevant and musically wide bandwidth thoughts but also > wondering if anyone can actually recommend a decent winter glove manufacturer > (gauntlet, if possible) My little pinkies r gettin chilly. *whine* * -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 9 23:18:43 1998 Return-Path: true@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net ([199.45.39.61]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA06477 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mydesktop (client196-127-110.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.110]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA11580 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:19:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811100419.XAA11580@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:07:56 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Spring ERC In-Reply-To: <199811091703.MAA24205@meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In MD, they start taking reservations in March for classes starting in April. We had fun, BTW -- like Leon's circles all over again! :) MET >> -----Original Message----- >> From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [mailto:NJitzul@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 11:33 AM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: ERC survivors? >> >> >> Quiet list today... anyone survive the ERC? Hopefully >> everyone's just thawing >> out! ;p BTW, anyone know when the ERC sign-up begins in the Spring? >> >> Robert VanSlyke >> 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 00:08:35 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07225 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:08:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA04432; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:59:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:46:21 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: What's this bike? To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" cc: "'dc'" In-Reply-To: <199811091704.MAA24214@meretrix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > Cagive Alazzurra Super Sport > Someone offered to trade it to me for my RS125.. only I don't know the bike > at all.. Basically,it's a rebadged Ducati.Most were 650's,but there may have been a 750.Shared it's motor with the Elephant(DP/Paris Dakar bike).Never saw an article on them in any of the moto mags,but I saw one in the flesh once. If memory serves,it had a full cradle frame w/monoshock rear,half fairing (I'm sure there was also a full fairing version),Marzochi(sp?) suspenders, triple Brembo disks,18" wheels.Styled close to the 80's Ducks. Check out the Duck websites,they should have some info. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 00:13:15 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07310 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA04693; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:09:31 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:07:48 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: RE: Music To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000001be0bf0$4ba7d760$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, George Howell wrote: > Not to offend the ladies, but why does Alanis Morisette appear naked in a > video, and Shania Twain doesn't? Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with this > world. Yeah,Shania could do a sex book like Madonna.She could call it "A Roll in the Hay". ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 00:16:01 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07357 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:15:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA04719; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:12:26 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:10:12 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981109101527.00fe7190@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Chris Norloff wrote: > At 09:32 AM 11/9/98 , Mark E. Truelove wrote: > >Where do you normally get Kreme? > Buy a Harley. > Oops ... wrong thread. Eh?Couldn't hear you over the all the country music. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 00:35:45 1998 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA07679 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA27757 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:35:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3647FAF3.2052@mnsinc.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:36:03 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: What's BSA ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Ray Subject: RE: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? > To: "Jordan, Michael" , DCCycles List > ---"Jordan, Michael" wrote: > > I firmly believed that BSA stood for "Bastard Stopped Again" > It also means "Bastard Shook Apart" > I was working with some British Marines in the Carribbean that had, > you guessed it, BSA automatic rifles. At risk to my own life, I > pointed out that most of them appeared to be leaking oil. > Ray I gotta chime in, 'cuz it seems like none a y'all actually know what BSA stands for. Hey, hold on wise guy, it's not Boy Scouts of America ;) Give up? "Birmingham Small Arms". Yep, they made guns _and_ bikes. I think I still might have an old T-shirt around the crib that says "BSA - The World's Fastest Motorcycle" OK, It was a re-print when I got it... =:^P JK From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 01:17:01 1998 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08255 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id BAA28228 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:16:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364804A0.2C59@mnsinc.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:17:20 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Reality Check Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey DC Guys and Gals, What a frustrating last few days it's been! I could not believe how much crap on the list I had to wade through. Those of you who know me know I am not humorless, but please, enough already! I don't mind telling anyone here that I'm tired of reading about footwear, music likes/dislikes and other mundane B.S. When the hell did all this crap start anyway? Hey, allusions or references to non-moto content are no problem AFAIC, but when 75% of the posts have absolutely nothing to do with motos, then something's rotten in Denmark. JK (Praying that no one seizes on the last phrase and starts a friggin' Shakespeare thread) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 01:32:53 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA08478 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:32:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomspc (user-38lciv8.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.75.232]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA03284; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:30:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01fb01be0c73$83aedcc0$e84b56d1@tomspc.mindspring.com> From: "Tom Zell" To: "John C. Kozyn" , "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Reality Check Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:29:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Amen!!!!!!! Let's kill the crap folks and get back to the cool stuff... motorcycles!!! -Tom '86 VFR750 (that will soon be supercharged!) -----Original Message----- From: John C. Kozyn To: dc-cycles Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 1:22 AM Subject: Reality Check >Hey DC Guys and Gals, > >What a frustrating last few days it's been! I could not believe how much >crap on the list I had to wade through. Those of you who know me know I >am not humorless, but please, enough already! > >I don't mind telling anyone here that I'm tired of reading about >footwear, music likes/dislikes and other mundane B.S. When the hell did >all this crap start anyway? > >Hey, allusions or references to non-moto content are no problem AFAIC, >but when 75% of the posts have absolutely nothing to do with motos, then >something's rotten in Denmark. > >JK > >(Praying that no one seizes on the last phrase and starts a friggin' >Shakespeare thread) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 01:37:34 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA08566 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:37:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA05234; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:33:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:31:33 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: DC MC Parking To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981109140043.01b43970@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Chris Norloff wrote: > 3. No motorized vehicle without pedals shall park on > islands or sidewalks. So all we need to do is replace our footpegs with pedals and we get free parking? ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 01:43:34 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA08686 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:43:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA05254; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:39:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:35:56 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: New Helmet To: sheri bierman cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <006c01be0c3c$aae10fc0$af175d18@bierman.rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, sheri bierman wrote: > What model HJC did you have before?? Also, did you try any other model > Shoei? My girlfriend is curious - she has gone through 3 helmets in a year > and a half and can't seem to find one that fits her properly.. she has a > really small head ;o) and currently has a HJC CL-11 size XXS. She says it > lifts off her head a lot - definitely doesn't fit her correctly. Doesn't Shoei make helmets is children's sizes? ;-) Just kidding.Shoei does make kids' lids;has your friend tried to find a Shoei that will fit her?Have you checked out any of the short or female biker web sites to see if they have any recommendations for smaller helmets? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:07:13 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA12923 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:07:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA00389 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:07:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (known smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA03602 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:07:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-111-114.s114.tnt1.ann.erols.com (207-172-111-114.s114.tnt1.ann.erols.com [207.172.111.114]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA10527; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:08:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101008.FAA10527@smtp2.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "NJitzul@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:17:02 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3fb9ecbc.3647d11f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:37:35 EST, NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: >Well, I lead with the understamding that I'll wait for everyone at >intersections. Sorry if I didn't make that clear! Never feel pressured to >match my pace (unless you're following me and want to go faster ). Well, >I will hand it to Brian.. kept himself from passing me! Anyway, I understand >the mentality difference between solo riding and two-up riding. I'm very >careful with a passenger! And the only person to get rich off of my death >right now is my mom! :( The pace was fine. I just widened the following distance so I didn't feel like I was crowding anyone. No one crowded me. Very comfortable pace. Beautiful route. All I did was say is that I ride slower with a passenger. Never a complaint from me.... :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:14:39 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13033 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:14:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA00475 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:14:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00652 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:33:09 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id VWBVa13872; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:31:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:31:04 EST To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Well, I tried to keep the pace "interesting" for you, but I didn't want to push the old Shadow too much on roads I don't know very well. My bike just wasn't meant for racing, but that doesn't mean I won't try. :) I'm glad to hear that you enjoyed it!! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:18:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13081 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA00538 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00542 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:23:56 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id SZDUa07908; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:22:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:22:27 EST To: kirk@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Opinions wanted on weld/solder material Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Though I'm a novice in aircraft welding, I am skeptical of this product. It sounds like regulard Brazing Rod to me. Their claims sound reasonable about strength, but be warned: you don't want to try any type of welding for the first time on the part you need welded! You are almost GUARANTEED to screw up at least once ( or many times in my case). Also keep in mind that a mere 732 degrees F is still pretty darn hot!! What is it that you need welded? My school will let me do SOME welding/brazing, but I'd recommend a professional shop. Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:18:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13082 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA00540 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:17:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00640 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:31:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 (KELLY3-P16.NIPR.MIL [33.34.250.53]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA26615; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:54:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3647C638.5693BE0C@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:51:04 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" CC: LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Gloves was Re: I hate rap X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3648ABAD.DF36E536@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > *Thinking moto irrelevant and musically wide bandwidth thoughts but also > wondering if anyone can actually recommend a decent winter glove manufacturer > (gauntlet, if possible) My little pinkies r gettin chilly. *whine* * Widder. http://www.widder.com or 1-800-WYB-COLD Some guys like grip heaters instead of gloves. I've never tried those. Electric clothes are like sex. It's possible to go one's entire life without it, but why would anyone want to? -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:20:21 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13173 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA00573 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:20:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA01426 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:45:22 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id RCMYa03291; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:39:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9f3670a6.3647dfb4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:39:48 EST To: jckozyn@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Reality Check Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Did someone mention Shakespeare? Just Kidding!! I do agree with John though. I have deleted alot of non-moto messages lately. I like alot of the non-moto stuff, but it's gotten a bit extreme. No flames please! :) Robert "I'm not instigating anything!" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:20:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13176 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA00581 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:20:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (known imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA01199 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:22:39 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WPKBa04682; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:21:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <429a8bab.3647db82@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 01:21:54 EST To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: No-Mot.. RE: Music - rap Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Webster's defines melody as " a sweet or agreeable succession or arrangement of sounds; a rhythmic succession of single tones organized as an aesthetic whole ". Another source describes it as "An arrangement of single tones in a meaningful sequence." Most rap employs the use of rythmically spoken word, (in fact, the word 'rap' is a synonym for "discussion; verbalization") but more often than not, lacking any sort of melody in the classical sense. Think; when was the last time you could hum or whistle your favorite rap song? There might be a catchy hook or riff, but no real 'tune' per se. And in response to your arguments...." It has bass beat, supporting beats, mixing, etc."...."bass beat" and "supporting beats" are not any sort of quantifiable terms I've ever encountered. Care to elaborate as to what these are? And as for "Most non rap songs cant do that because they change tempo too often." That's about the most unsubstantial argument I've ever heard in the defense of rap. There are more styles of music that are centered around dance, with a much greater presence than rap will ever have. Most "non-rap", (wonderful way to classify other genre's by the way), does not have dance-alienating tempo changes. I'll bet $10 that if we sit down and listen to a "non-rap" radio station, that there will be 5 songs in a row that have dance-viable, static tempos. But still, rap has its uses, take for instance....ah...well, just the other day......um.....yeah. See you all later! -Sean "Eyeing-the-Smoke-Detector-Nervously" Jordan From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:27:14 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13284 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:27:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA00656 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:27:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (known imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00736 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:41:11 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3SLZa17681; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:37:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3fb9ecbc.3647d11f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:37:35 EST To: snake69@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Well, I lead with the understamding that I'll wait for everyone at intersections. Sorry if I didn't make that clear! Never feel pressured to match my pace (unless you're following me and want to go faster ). Well, I will hand it to Brian.. kept himself from passing me! Anyway, I understand the mentality difference between solo riding and two-up riding. I'm very careful with a passenger! And the only person to get rich off of my death right now is my mom! :( Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:34:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13367 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:34:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA00773 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (known imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00453 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:37:36 -0500 (EST) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WEDJa04680 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:36:57 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <7359535d.3647c2e9@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:36:57 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Polite M*F*s Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 thanks everybody for some good ideas ..... I've considered carrying those tall orange flags that kids put on their bicycles and attaching them whenever I park........... :D and thanks for the well-wishes...... Marcy From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:57:13 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13787 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.67.58]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981110105639.KAZ3001@wotan> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:56:39 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: Subject: Polite M*F*s Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:06 -0500 Message-ID: <000601be0c98$db7ac110$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811100000.TAA02515@meretrix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 If the bike has a cover consider Orange day-glo tape all around. If it doesn't find a way to make it more visible. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:57:19 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13792 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.67.58]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981110105646.KBF3001@wotan> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:56:46 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: Subject: Losing my happy home Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:13 -0500 Message-ID: <000701be0c98$df40a2b0$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811100000.TAA02515@meretrix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 For me it's a no-brainer: no roomates. I'd do the efficiency in a heartbeat to avoid a roomate. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:57:26 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13801 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.67.58]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981110105653.KBL3001@wotan> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:56:53 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: Subject: Music Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000801be0c98$e3682c50$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811100000.TAA02515@meretrix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Enough about music. I liked it better when you guys were talking about your reptile collections. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:57:32 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13810 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.67.58]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981110105700.KBU3001@wotan> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:57:00 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: Subject: ERC survivors Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:27 -0500 Message-ID: <000901be0c98$e79ef830$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811100000.TAA02515@meretrix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I will know when the ERC(experienced rider course) will be held very soon. I will post it. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:57:39 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13818 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.67.58]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981110105706.KBY3001@wotan> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:57:06 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: Subject: Music - rap Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:33 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01be0c98$eb3b58d0$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811100000.TAA02515@meretrix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 It takes no talent to write a rap song; If the lyrics rhyme you can do no wrong. This list's about 'cycles not about music; I think the moderator should simply refuse it. Get back to bikes please do it real soon; Let the sound of the highway be your tune. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 05:57:45 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA13827 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.67.58]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981110105713.KCG3001@wotan> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:57:13 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: Subject: New Helmet Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:57:40 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be0c98$ef583410$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811100000.TAA02515@meretrix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Arai helmets have chang-able liners that can possible be modified for a better fit. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 06:14:45 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA14171 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA01194 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:14:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (known iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA00501 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mydesktop (client196-127-16.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.16]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id AAA18207; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:18:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811100518.AAA18207@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:40:40 -0500 To: Ray , Sean Sullivan , NJitzul@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: RE: ERC Survivors? In-Reply-To: <19981109185612.3257.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey, nobody needs to twist my arm for an excuse to get together. :) MET At 01:56 PM 11/9/98 , Ray wrote: >Back when I was in the biker club in the Florida Keys we used to have >a Survivors Party after Bike Week. Everyone who did not get killed or >wrecked in Daytona went and had a great time and another opportunity >to get killed or wrecked. Why not have an ERC Survivors Party? I >would have it at my place, but it's a hovel and I'm embarrassed to >have anyone see it. >Ray ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 06:28:06 1998 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA14403 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:28:04 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3SPQa13873; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:27:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <811af9bb.3648231a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:27:22 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: SJordan185@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: **Dear Diary... The Arch Run** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 Dear Diary, I knew I was in for a good ride when Rob "titled" the ride. The ride was no less than outstanding! One of the best of the year. I'd follow Rob anywhere.... on a route that is. The pace was perfect so that we could actually enjoy the scenery, and the ride so comfortable on the back of Stan's Full Dresser, I nearly dozed off . I confess--I rode behind this time. The weather's just a little too nippy for me to playing this game on my own bike. I would caution women around Rob though. He tends not to understand female needs and their sense of urgency on certain matters No matter how much I begged and pleaded, he wouldn't accommodate me. In fact, he laughed me off! Then, after at least 30 miles or so, we finally stopped. He got off his bike and feared looking at me, but our eyes finally locked. His glare was burning with anticipation as he knew my words would be colder than the frigid air. Yet, after such an intense ride, all I could muster up was, "Thank God," and dashed for the ladies room. Men just don't get it. When we say it's time--it's time. As always, Marvin (Snake) behaved like a brother should, an annoyance. But you gotta love him--I understand it's the law. And if he wasn't around, I'd sure miss him. And I finally met Brian McCoy! Brian was aching to open her up around some of the turns, but Cpt. Rob kept everyone in tow and Brian followed his lead expertly. Meanwhile Kay and I sat back and enjoyed being chauffered. Stan now has a permanent backseat rider for the winter. Very nice hearing tunes while cruisin' down the road on a LazyBoy recliner... Full Dresser. The ride, the company and the food was great... Life is good. Until next ride, Lee From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 07:14:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA15139 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01630 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (known mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA04839 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:14:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101214.HAA04839@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:14:34 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'Marvin Heilesen'" , NJitzul@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:11:24 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Err.. well, that was a hard one at times when it looked like the road was going to be fun.. but I hadn't let you know beforehand what would happen if I ran and streched my legs a little.. that and I didn't have a ride-sheet OR a map on me at the time.. :P Kinda hindered my passing anyone. As for 2-up riding.. I think it's more to do with the bike and mentality (style of riding) than the fact that you're 2-up.. even in 2-up mode on my bike, I'm fast.. I slow it down a touch, leave an extra 1/10th (and if you're confused about my tenths termonoligy.. it's from reading racing books and such..) for the real emergencies. That is UNLESS I have a newbie on back.. If someone's new to riding.. or to riding with me I take things VERY calm and smooth. I want them to enjoy the experience and feel safe with me.. it's a building of the trust. I guess that when you have a bike that was the base for 2 (or was it 3) AMA championships.. you tend to have a higher mean speed.. maybe not. Brian > -----Original Message----- Well, > >I will hand it to Brian.. kept himself from passing me! > Anyway, I understand > >the mentality difference between solo riding and two-up > riding. I'm very > >careful with a passenger! And the only person to get rich > off of my death > >right now is my mom! :( > > The pace was fine. I just widened the following distance > so I didn't feel like I was crowding anyone. No one > crowded me. Very comfortable pace. Beautiful route. > > All I did was say is that I ride slower with a passenger. > Never a complaint from me.... :) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 07:26:32 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA15282 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:26:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101226.HAA15282@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:26:24 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: SJordan185@XXXXXX Subject: RE: **Dear Diary... The Arch Run** Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:20:38 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) You mean those things don't come with a john?!? Hrmmm.. maybe you should see if Harley offers one as an accessory.. but watch out for the chrome seat, I bet it'd get cold.. ;) <--- SMILIE.. don't hurt me.. please One thing I can say for Lee.. is.. uhh.. she's... SHORT. *chuckle* I can't wait to see you on your own bike Lee.. just to watch you at stops and in parking lots. I'm sure it'll be humurous to see you getting settled on that big new bike you're thinking of getting.. what were you looking at.. a 1500!!?? like, more than twice the displacement of my very comphy, long distance runner (yes, there's a reason I have 40,235 miles on my bike.. up from 29,211 back on July 4th of this year). Take care all.. and Lee, go ahead and add me to your list as well... Brian > -----Original Message----- > Yet, after such an intense ride, all I could muster up was, > "Thank God," and > dashed for the ladies room. Men just don't get it. When we say it's > time--it's time. > Very > nice hearing tunes while cruisin' down the road on a LazyBoy > recliner... Full > Dresser. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 07:31:43 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA15512 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id EAA21691 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:30:49 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:30:49 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "John C. Kozyn" , dc-cycles Subject: RE: What's BSA ? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:31:26 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I was working with some British Marines in the Carribbean that had, > you guessed it, BSA automatic rifles. At risk to my own life, I > pointed out that most of them appeared to be leaking oil. > Ray Wonder if they had Lucas electrics?? :-( > "Birmingham Small Arms" Check out the logo - three tented rifles Yamaha's three tuning forks are another interesting motorcycle logo Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 07:47:05 1998 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from att.com (cagw1.att.com [192.128.52.89]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA15780 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from caig1.fw.att.com by cagw1.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/UPAS-1.0) for dc-cycles.org!dc-cycles sender dcn.att.com!rcrishock (dcn.att.com!rcrishock); Tue Nov 10 07:37 EST 1998 Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com (dcn73.nova.att.com [135.44.68.33]) by caig1.fw.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/GW-1.0) with SMTP id HAA11617 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:46:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52) id <01BE0C7E.3C220E30@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:46:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'raymondlucas@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:46:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote... > On BSAs I'm looking for a good local parts source for parts in general > and a Euro-style tank for an A65 for a friends bike. Ray, I ride a '78 Bonneville (pretty much every day that it doesn't rain), and live in Sterling, VA. Sorry if you've already received this info, but I get the digest, and so I may be a day or so behind. Try Meyers Cycle Engineering, 10529 Summit Ave, Kennsington MD (301) 897-0050 for Brit parts locally. They came through for me with a clutch cable late on a Saturday. Excellent reputation for repair work too. Free State Cycle (somewhere in MD) may have some stuff too. For mail order, I use British Cycle Supply (http://canadianbiker.com/britcycle1.html) out of Nova Scotia, or British Only (http://www.british-only.com/) in Garden City, MI. And if you're craving the company of people who are used to oil leaks and dim headlights, there is an informal gathering of Brit bike enthusiasts every other Thursday (this Thursday, Nov 12) in Purcelville, VA (10 miles west of Leesburg) at the White Palace Restaurant. Write me if you want more info. And there is also Brit-Iron-L (http://php.indiana.edu/~cstringe/brit-iron-l.html), a very cool email list for (you guessed it) Brit bikes. You may want to post your tank question there. Rich '78 T140E Scowling Street Terrors # 78 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 07:53:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA15894 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:53:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA01934 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:53:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (known pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA05165 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id HAA10347; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:53:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101253.HAA10347@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles" , Subject: Re: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:53:02 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0C7F.24785B80" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0C7F.24785B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I would caution women around Rob though. He tends not to understand female > needs and their sense of urgency on certain matters No matter how much I > begged and pleaded, he wouldn't accommodate me. In fact, he laughed me off! > Then, after at least 30 miles or so, we finally stopped. And here is where the harassment began. Women just don't get it. Men aren't insensitive, we just have different priorities. When we get in that same position, we go out and communicate with nature. No need for fancy facilities, or even priorities. Just pull off the road, park the bike, and take a little hike. No problem, no big production number. > As always, Marvin (Snake) behaved like a brother should, an annoyance. But > you gotta love him--I understand it's the law. And if he wasn't around, I'd > sure miss him. I thought I was being exceptionally nice. I never told the whole group that you spent the whole time complaining that you had to piss..... :) (and that I was directing Rob to lead us over every bump and pothole in the three county area......) > Meanwhile Kay and I sat back and enjoyed being chauffered. Stan now > has a permanent backseat rider for the winter. Very nice hearing tunes > while cruisin' down the road on a LazyBoy recliner... It's bad when the sport bike is louder than the Harley (actually, this is a good thing). > The ride, the company and the food was great... Life is good. > Until next ride, Lee Speaking of which, what are the plans for this weekend? Anyone have a ride set yet? (Sorry if there are spelling problems, my "i" key here on my computer at work only works about half the time.) ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0C7F.24785B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I would caution women around Rob = though.  He tends not to understand female
> needs and their = sense of urgency on certain matters  No matter how much I
> = begged and pleaded, he wouldn't accommodate me.  In fact, he = laughed me off!
> Then, after at least 30 miles or so, we finally = stopped.

And here is where the = harassment began.  Women just don't get it.  Men
aren't = insensitive, we just have different priorities.  When we get in = that
same position, we go out and communicate with nature.  No = need for
fancy facilities, or even priorities.  Just pull off = the road, park the bike, and
take a little hike.  No problem, = no big production number.

> As always, = Marvin (Snake) behaved like a brother should, an annoyance. =  But
> you gotta love him--I understand it's the law. =  And if he wasn't around, I'd
> sure miss him. =  

I thought I was being = exceptionally nice.  I never told the whole group that
you = spent the whole time complaining that you had to piss.....  :) =   (and that
I was directing Rob to lead us over every bump = and pothole in the three
county area......)

> Meanwhile Kay and I sat back and enjoyed being = chauffered.  Stan now
> has a permanent backseat rider for = the winter.  Very nice hearing tunes
> while cruisin' down = the road on a LazyBoy recliner...

It's = bad when the sport bike is louder than the Harley (actually, this is a =
good thing).

> The ride, the = company and the food was great...  Life is good.
> Until next = ride, Lee

Speaking of which, what are the = plans for this weekend?  
Anyone have a ride set = yet?

(Sorry if there are spelling problems, my "i" key = here on my computer
at work only works about half the time.)

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0C7F.24785B80-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 07:56:57 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA15913 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:56:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id HAA23140 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:56:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101256.HAA23140@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: ERC survivors Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:56:16 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0C7F.981A6880" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0C7F.981A6880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great. I am looking forwards to taking it some day, and the sooner the better. BTW, a good way to get the topic back to MC's is to post about MC's. ---------- > Subject: ERC survivors > > I will know when the ERC(experienced rider course) will be held very soon. I > will post it. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0C7F.981A6880 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Great.  I am looking forwards to = taking it some day,
and the sooner the better.

BTW, a good = way to get the topic back to MC's is
to post about = MC's.

----------
> Subject: ERC = survivors
>
> I will know when the ERC(experienced rider = course) will be held very soon. I
> will post it.

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0C7F.981A6880-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:12:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16244 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:12:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02100 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:12:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA05499 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26031; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:56:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:09:42 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEAF@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Marvin Heilesen'" , DC Cycles , LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Subject: RE: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:09:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Snake, You gotta turn off that html option :) Well all, I was thinking of leading a jaunt out on Sunday. One of our newer listers wanted some cornering lessons (at a reasonable pace) and I have a great route that can be trimmed to any number of miles since it zig zags between VA50 and the MD line by way of backroads...In general, we are always within 10/15 of a major town, passing through Purcelville and Middleburgh a few times. I'm riding the Maxim, with worn out suspension and bald tires, so the pace won't be too bad. IF need be, we can make two groups of it. I've led enough listers down some of these roads that we'll have no problem finding two group leaders... or more if for some strange reason we have another of those winter turnouts of 20+ bikes... I propose meeting at the Burger Scream in Sterling (just off route 7 in the cascades shopping center) departing around 9 am?? Sound good? Or maybe even leaving at 0830?? Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: Marvin Heilesen [SMTP:snake69@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:00 AM > To: DC Cycles; LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** > > > Speaking of which, what are the plans for this weekend? > Anyone have a ride set yet? > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:17:35 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA16324 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id ACE72F10596; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:17:27 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981110075406.00fac510@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:58:01 -0500 To: sheri bierman From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: New Helmet Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: References: <006c01be0c3c$aae10fc0$af175d18@bierman.rochester.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, sheri bierman wrote: >> What model HJC did you have before?? Also, did you try any other model >> Shoei? My girlfriend is curious - she has gone through 3 helmets in a year >> and a half and can't seem to find one that fits her properly.. she has a >> really small head ;o) and currently has a HJC CL-11 size XXS. She says it >> lifts off her head a lot - definitely doesn't fit her correctly. > > Doesn't Shoei make helmets is children's sizes? ;-) My youngest daughter (age 11) uses a XXXS (3X small) by Shoei, model RF700 I think. Anyway, it's a nice full face helmet with brow, chin, and back-of-the-head vents. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:18:01 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16336 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:18:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02152 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:17:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com (known piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA05606 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id ACE92F10596; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:17:29 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981110075908.00fb0470@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:00:17 -0500 To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Polite M*F*s In-Reply-To: <7359535d.3647c2e9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:36 PM 11/9/98 , JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: >thanks everybody for some good ideas ..... I've considered carrying those tall >orange flags that kids put on their bicycles and attaching them whenever I >park........... :D I wonder if anyone makes collapsible tall orange traffic cones. You know how whenever telephone company vehicle park they put orange cones around the vehicle? Perhaps surrounding the bike with yellow "Crime Scene" tape? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:19:18 1998 Return-Path: louis@XXXXXX Received: from postal.clark.net (postal2.clark.net [168.143.0.18]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16348 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:19:06 -0500 (EST) From: louis@XXXXXX Received: from shell.clark.net (clark.net [168.143.0.8]) by postal.clark.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA18956 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:08:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29322 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:18:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101318.IAA29322@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:18:41 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199811101253.HAA10347@pop02.globecomm.net> from "Marvin Heilesen" " at Nov 10, 98 07:53:02 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > I would caution women around Rob though. He tends not to understand > female > > needs and their sense of urgency on certain matters No matter how much I > > begged and pleaded, he wouldn't accommodate me. In fact, he laughed me > off! > > Then, after at least 30 miles or so, we finally stopped. > > And here is where the harassment began. Women just don't get it. Men > aren't insensitive, we just have different priorities. When we get in that > same position, we go out and communicate with nature. No need for > fancy facilities, or even priorities. Just pull off the road, park the > bike, and take a little hike. No problem, no big production number. Last summer I was escorting a bicycle ride that had rest stops about every 15 - 30 miles. If there was a long strech of woods with no gas stations or other facilities availible, the ladies were just as willing to take a walk into the woods. Of course they tended to walk a little farther, and you'd only see the top of their heads peaking out of the bush, where as the guys would go in maybe one layer of trees and stand there proudly. :-) Before anyone thinks I'm a pervert for looking, my job was to be a safety escort. If I saw a bicycle on the side of the road, I wanted to make sure the person was all right before going on. They usually lay their bicycles down, and for all I know they could be in a ditch. Motorcycle content: The escort duty was done by about 20 people on motorcycles for 4 days. A lot of fun. Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/~louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | 7th Place, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:22:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16451 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02188 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA05698 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26734; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:06:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:20:03 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEB0@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'McCoy, Brian NAB02'" , "'Marvin Heilesen'" , NJitzul@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 2Up Riding was--->RE: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:20:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I'd have to agree a bit with Brian. If I have a new person on back, sedate doesn't even begin to describe the pace. However, if it's my wife on the back, I can go pretty much whatever pace I feel like. She's an awesom passenger and after getting adjusted to some added weight, I almost forget she's back there...(ask her about our last trip out to 211....after a few turns the gixer's pegs started dragging through every corner...got to the top and pulled off under the overpass there and went "oops...got a little carried away" she was like 'no problem..it was fun, but maybe a touch too fast" :) ) Now that we have a little one, our rare chances to go two up are/will be more towards sedate simply because if something catastrophic were to occur, Connor would be without any parents, and that would be unacceptable. So we'll simply minimize the risk by taking things a bit slower... Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [SMTP:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 7:55 AM > To: 'Marvin Heilesen'; NJitzul@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? > > As for 2-up riding.. I think it's more to do with the bike and mentality > (style of riding) than the fact that you're 2-up.. even in 2-up mode on my > bike, I'm fast.. I slow it down a touch, leave an extra 1/10th (and if > you're confused about my tenths termonoligy.. it's from reading racing > books > and such..) for the real emergencies. That is UNLESS I have a newbie on > back.. If someone's new to riding.. or to riding with me I take things > VERY > calm and smooth. I want them to enjoy the experience and feel safe with > me.. it's a building of the trust. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:26:21 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16482 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:26:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27166; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:26:48 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEB1@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'louis@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc'" Subject: RE: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:26:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Yes, if you're heading west on Rte. 7, you'll see the college on your right. Proceed another mile or so, through the traffic light then right turn into the shopping center. BK and 7-11 are both right out near the road. If you've come to Hwy 28, you've gone too far. > -----Original Message----- > From: louis@XXXXXX [SMTP:louis@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:22 AM > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG > Subject: Re: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** > > > I propose meeting at the Burger Scream in Sterling (just off route 7 in > the > > cascades shopping center) departing around 9 am?? Sound good? Or maybe > > > even leaving at 0830?? > > If I'm heading West on Rt. 7 (from the beltway) is that the one about > a mile past the Community College on the right? (I know of the BK, but > not the name of the shopping center) > > Thanks, > > Louis > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:30:35 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16628 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:30:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101330.IAA16628@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:30:01 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: barco-Road Kings.. ok, kinda off topic.. :P Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:25:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Hey now.. I can be quiet too.. I just let the revs drop below 6k and get Behind you.. It's bad when I can hear the Tunes while cruising down the road.. are you people deaf or what?!? *grin*  I feel like I was surrounded by thunder all day.. Rob's baffleless twin infront of me, the shadow and hog behind me.. eesh.. good thing I wasn't on an in-line 4.. it mighta had a fit.   Oh Tomm... Tom Zell.. yea, you... this guy thinks my pipe/bike is loud.. wanna come do a fly-by for him?  120 would be a nice sound (though you get to hear it longer if you're close to that same speed..)   Brian M.   Oh yea.. I heard rain was in our future for the weekend.. now, I don't mind rain.. and I don't mind cold.. but together, they'll keep me inside with a pretty girl and a fire everytime.  Otherwise I could do another ride.. I suppose.. -----Original Message----- > Meanwhile Kay and I sat back and enjoyed being chauffered.  Stan now > has a permanent backseat rider for the winter.  Very nice hearing tunes > while cruisin' down the road on a LazyBoy recliner... It's bad when the sport bike is louder than the Harley (actually, this is a good thing). From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:33:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16659 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:33:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02303 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:33:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (known radagast.wizard.net [206.161.15.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA05907 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:33:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc2-s27.wizard.net (tc2-s27.wizard.net [206.161.15.103]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA01912; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:33:46 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" Cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Sunday Ride (was **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?**) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:39:30 -0500 Message-ID: <366d414e.738426452@smtp.wizard.net> References: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEAF@MSCEX> In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEAF@MSCEX> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:09:40 -0500, "Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: >I propose meeting at the Burger Scream in Sterling (just off route 7 in = the >cascades shopping center) departing around 9 am?? Sound good? Or maybe >even leaving at 0830?? Collin, Since you were kind enough to start the ride about 1 mile from my house, I'll be there! :-) I wouldn't start the ride any earlier than 9 am though... it can get a bit frosty out here in the "western suburbs"! :-) Anita '96 GPZ1100 (all fixed now!) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:39:02 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16773 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:39:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101339.IAA16773@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:38:37 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Collins Sunday plans Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:35:29 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) oh dear Lord.. please let me survive this Sunday If I should happen to appear for this ride... Oh yea, he's on a Maxim now.. and me on a VFR700.. not the GXSR750/VF500 combo we used to have.. ok, I'll bite. It's been a long time since I've done those roads with you.. but I think I remember them pretty well... just warn me before we get that that tight right just outside of Leesburg.. like, flash the brakes at me a LOT.. ok? I don't need any more agricultural riding.. Actually, to anyone that's interested, this is a pretty fun ride.. I've done it several times.. even losing parts along the way (whoa.. what's that exhaust can doing flipping and tumbling down the highway!!?).. Er, my new bike holds together a bit better.. it's safe for people to follow me now.. :P (Really, it was a James Bond bike.. it was designed to lose those parts to hinder those chasing me and increase my performance.. :P) Brian > -----Original Message----- > > Well all, I was thinking of leading a jaunt out on Sunday. > One of our newer > listers wanted some cornering lessons (at a reasonable pace) > and I have a > great route that can be trimmed to any number of miles since > it zig zags > between VA50 and the MD line by way of backroads...In > general, we are always > within 10/15 of a major town, passing through Purcelville and > Middleburgh a > few times. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:48:30 1998 Return-Path: brad.faas@XXXXXX Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (viper.bcbsblue.com [208.146.143.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16929 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:48:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (root@localhost) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id IAA27000 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com ([199.97.109.162]) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id IAA26986 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:48:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com (root@localhost) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with ESMTP id IAA25057 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:48:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from NCAIMAIL1 ([192.168.79.211]) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with SMTP id IAA25047 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:48:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101348.IAA25047@nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com> Priority: urgent Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:46:00 -0500 From: "FAAS, BRAD" Subject: RE: Sunday Ride To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME This sounds like I could make it -- although probably not before 9am. Forgive my ignorance of Virginia, but I have NO clue as to how to get to the meeting place... Got any quick directions coming from the Beltway? --Brad -----Original Message----- From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [mailto:cfagan@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:10 AM To: 'Marvin Heilesen'; DC Cycles; LilBkrBabe Subject: RE: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** ---------------------------------------------------- Snake, You gotta turn off that html option :) Well all, I was thinking of leading a jaunt out on Sunday. One of our newer listers wanted some cornering lessons (at a reasonable pace) and I have a great route that can be trimmed to any number of miles since it zig zags between VA50 and the MD line by way of backroads...In general, we are always within 10/15 of a major town, passing through Purcelville and Middleburgh a few times. I'm riding the Maxim, with worn out suspension and bald tires, so the pace won't be too bad. IF need be, we can make two groups of it. I've led enough listers down some of these roads that we'll have no problem finding two group leaders... or more if for some strange reason we have another of those winter turnouts of 20+ bikes... I propose meeting at the Burger Scream in Sterling (just off route 7 in the cascades shopping center) departing around 9 am?? Sound good? Or maybe even leaving at 0830?? Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: Marvin Heilesen [SMTP:snake69@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:00 AM > To: DC Cycles; LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** > > > Speaking of which, what are the plans for this weekend? > Anyone have a ride set yet? > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 08:57:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17115 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:57:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA02533 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:57:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (known relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA06325 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:57:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zdEIB-0007Tz-00; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:57:12 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:44:53 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Leon Begeman'" , "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" Cc: LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gloves Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:44:10 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I have Gerbing electric gloves, which I really recommend, because the electrics go down the entire length of your fingers rather than just the palm of the gloves. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 11:51 PM > To: Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) > Cc: LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Gloves was Re: I hate rap > > Widder. http://www.widder.com or 1-800-WYB-COLD Some guys like grip > heaters instead of gloves. I've never tried those. > > Electric clothes are like sex. It's possible to go one's entire life > without it, but why would anyone want to? > > -- > Leon > Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 > Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:00:01 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17152 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:59:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29460; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:01:01 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEB2@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'FAAS, BRAD'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday Ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:00:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain It's extremely easy to get to. Just come around the beltway to the Leesburgh Pike/Route 7 exit and head west. For those coming from the north, head west on VA 193 down to rte 7 to cut some of the distance off. The Dulles Toll Road, then Reston Parkway to route 7 is also a quick option. It's roughly 20 miles (I think...been a while) to the BK from the beltway. Anyone going through the Tyson's corner area is welcome to head out with me... I'll leave the house at around 8:15 to get there early enough for a very quick snak at BK. Or, if we'd like to push the departure to 0930 or so, I could sleep in an extra 1/2 hour and would be leaving my place around 0845 or so. Obviously for those that like to actually taste their breakfast rather than inhale it as I do, getting there earlier would be necessary. I plan on showing up, eating a croisanwich, waiting a few, then heading out... as with all rides, I'm sure we'll leave a fwe minutes after the advertised departure time, but not a lot... All that said, what IS the best time to depart. Too early and it's cold (I don't like cold). Too much after 0930-1000 and we're limited by daylight on how far we can go. My vote would be for 0930 so Brad can come along (since he's the one I promised to lead around in the first place). If anyone wants directions to my place to head out that way, just mail me and I'll send em private (I trust all of you folks, but who knows what info robots the spammers have watching the email lists) Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: FAAS, BRAD [SMTP:brad.faas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 8:46 AM > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG; 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Sunday Ride > > > This sounds like I could make it -- although probably not before 9am. > Forgive my ignorance of Virginia, but I have NO clue as to how to get to > > the meeting place... Got any quick directions coming from the Beltway? > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:03:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17212 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA02649 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (known relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06451 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:02:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zdENd-0000bJ-00; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:02:49 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:01:08 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF6451@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'sheri bierman'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: New Helmet Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:00:24 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not sure what model my old HJC was. Finally someone with a smaller head than me! I had a S HJC which was too big. I usually fit XS in most helmets but the Shoei I bought is a small. Has she tried Shoei yet? The suggestions for kids helmets might be a good idea, too. Good luck! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: sheri bierman [SMTP:sbierman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 6:57 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: New Helmet >=20 > Jeannette, >=20 > What model HJC did you have before?? Also, did you try any other = model > Shoei? My girlfriend is curious - she has gone through 3 helmets in a > year > and a half and can't seem to find one that fits her properly.. she = has > a > really small head ;o) and currently has a HJC CL-11 size XXS. She > says it > lifts off her head a lot - definitely doesn't fit her correctly. >=20 > thanks, > sheri > = =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 > sheri bierman > '94 Ninja 500 > sbierman@XXXXXX > sbierman@XXXXXX > Come visit Broccoli Bikers Adventure Pages! > http://members.xoom.com/ninja500 > = =A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA=B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4=BA= =B0`=B0=BA=A4=F8,=B8=B8,=F8=A4 >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:06:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17298 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA02717 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06503 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-04.dial.nova.org (ra1-04.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.164]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA21521 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:05:35 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Gloves Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:13:31 GMT Message-ID: <364c492d.528056645@beta.nova.org> References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, so you've got these electric gloves. Suppose you've got tiny little hands, chronic tendinitis, and developing arthritis - are there any summer thickness electric gloves? I just plain can't wear real winter gloves for any length of time. I made the mistake of trying to on a weekend trip to the mountains recently (4 weeks ago) and my thumb is still hurting. I usually use polar hands (handlebar muffs) and my regular summer gloves. I wouldn't mind ditching the polar hands if thin electric gloves are available. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:12:25 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17399 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA02906 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:12:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06702 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:12:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-04.dial.nova.org (ra1-04.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.164]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA21642 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:12:16 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Paging Brian McCoy Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:20:12 GMT Message-ID: <364e4b63.528623009@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian, Here's the error I've been getting when mailing you directly: Your message did not reach the following recipient(s): Brian McCoy on Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:09:07 -0800 The recipient name is not recognized MSEXCH:IMS:ORGANIZATION:USACE MCX PORTLAND OR:MCXMAIL01 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:18:25 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.38]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17463 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:18:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.67.130]) by mtiwmhc03.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981110141738.CENP3001@wotan> for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:17:38 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: Subject: gas tank cleanup Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:18:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01be0cb4$ebb7cb10$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811100000.TAA02515@meretrix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Instead of gravel or assorted nuts or ball bearings, you could use plastic beads that sand blasters use. Call the one in Manassas. I considered placing the tank in a clothes dryer (on air fluff temp) and stuffing clothing or other material around it so it could tumble for a long time; I never did it. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:22:47 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17566 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA15990; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:21:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981110142145.HQKV9982@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:21:45 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Leslie N. Forewright" , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: tools....needed... Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:19:36 -0500 Message-ID: <000401be0cb5$25180e60$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000601be0c45$253bb7e0$62b7accf@default> Importance: Normal Hey Les, You don't really need this 'special' tool, you can make your own for about $2. Get some PVC pipe that'll fit around the tubes, but not bigger than the sliders. Cut off about an 8" length and sand the driving end smooth. Almost instant seal driver. Hey, works for me. Todd > > Does anyone have a "fork seal driver" ??????? I left mine back in > Tennessee. I am in the process of rebuilding my front forks and didn't > "think" to find my driver until after I had finished with the fork > rebuild..a lil late to be looking for the much needed tool...genious > huh.....anyway if anyone has one I am willing to rent it from you....I can > buy another one but it will take longer to get here than it will for me to > get mine in Tennessee when I go home for Turkey day...well thanxx... > Les Kat 750... > NX250 "the resurrection" > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:30:24 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17752 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:30:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc2-s22.wizard.net (tc2-s22.wizard.net [206.161.15.98]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA07307; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:29:42 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'FAAS, BRAD'" Subject: Re: Sunday Ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:35:26 -0500 Message-ID: <36704c71.741278148@smtp.wizard.net> References: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEB2@MSCEX> In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEB2@MSCEX> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:00:57 -0500, "Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: >It's extremely easy to get to. Just come around the beltway to the = Leesburgh >Pike/Route 7 exit and head west.... ... It's roughly 20 miles (I = think... >been a while) to the BK from the beltway. =46rom Tysons (and Rte 495) it's about 12-14 miles to Sterling. Route 7 is a good choice on a Sunday morning... while there are a few lights along the way, you should be able to make good time. Once you cross over the Toll Road (267) heading west, you'll pass through maybe 12 miles of residential area. As you get to Sterling there will be car dealerships, shopping centers, fast food restaurants etc. Just keep going... you will eventually pass a shopping center with a Target and Circuit City on the left. Next you will go under an overpass (does that make it an "underpass"?). Go through the next light, and the Burger King will be on the right. It's pretty easy to see from Rte 7. If you get to Rte 28, you've gone too far. >My vote would be for 0930 so Brad can come along (since he's the one I >promised to lead around in the first place). I'll try to be there around 9:00 am, and park my bike in a visible spot. Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:32:40 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17781 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:32:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA03282 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07248 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:32:24 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WDEJa10440 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:31:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:31:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Music - rap Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Im not going to argue with Sean about rap music and all of that "classical" stuff. Clearly today the classical ideas behind music are rather outdated. And that part about bass beat and supporting beats, if you ever listen to good rap music you would know what I mean (Im sorry if I dont know the technical term for it). I think most peoples beef with rap music is they dont like the message in alot of if. Oh well, easy to dislike something that you dont have to deal with. Me, I love to sit back, pop in a Notorius BIG cd and just nod my head with the beat and listen to him flow. Oh yeah, one last thing, yall must be in the minority since over the last 7 years rap music is #1 (yes NUMBER ONE) in genre sales and not just in the US either, all over the world. Hmm......it must have SOMETHING going for it. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:36:51 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA17909 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:36:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc2-s31.wizard.net (tc2-s31.wizard.net [206.161.15.107]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA07943 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:36:39 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Gloves Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:42:24 -0500 Message-ID: <36485090.742333523@smtp.wizard.net> References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:44:10 -0500, "O'Brien, Jeannette" wrote: >I have Gerbing electric gloves, which I really recommend, because the >electrics go down the entire length of your fingers rather than just the >palm of the gloves. Per the Widder website, the electrics in their gloves go around each finger as well (I've been comparison shopping). Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:48:07 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil ([134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18098 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:47:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by DADC012 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:42:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Paging Brian McCoy Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:42:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) And here are the ones I get... Glenn Subject: RE: Good News... Sent: 11/9/98 9:27 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: McCoy, Brian (work) on 11/10/98 9:30 AM The recipient was unavailable to take delivery of the message MSEXCH:IMS:ORGANIZATION:HQDA:DADC012 3499 (000B099C) Host unreachable > -----Original Message----- > From: kirk@XXXXXX [SMTP:kirk@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 9:20 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Paging Brian McCoy > > Brian, > > Here's the error I've been getting when mailing you directly: > > Your message > > did not reach the following recipient(s): > > Brian McCoy on Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:09:07 -0800 > The recipient name is not recognized > MSEXCH:IMS:ORGANIZATION:USACE MCX PORTLAND OR:MCXMAIL01 0 > (000C05A6) > Unknown Recipient From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:53:23 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18229 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:54:48 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:54:15 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jckozyn@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Reality Check Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline To be or not to be, what the F#$k was the question? ;-) Sorry, just had = to do it. hehe Scooter >>> "John C. Kozyn" 11/10/98 04:17AM >>> Hey DC Guys and Gals, What a frustrating last few days it's been! I could not believe how much crap on the list I had to wade through. Those of you who know me know I am not humorless, but please, enough already! I don't mind telling anyone here that I'm tired of reading about footwear, music likes/dislikes and other mundane B.S. When the hell did all this crap start anyway? Hey, allusions or references to non-moto content are no problem AFAIC, but when 75% of the posts have absolutely nothing to do with motos, then something's rotten in Denmark. JK (Praying that no one seizes on the last phrase and starts a friggin' Shakespeare thread) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 09:58:56 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18329 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:58:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:59:49 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:59:24 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: robmoody@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Losing my happy home Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for the advice. Ray and I are talking about maybe getting a place = together. Seven bikes under one roof could be fun. :-) If that doesn't = work, Todd has an available room. If that doesn't work, efficiency. Scooter >>> "Robert L Moody" 11/10/98 05:57AM >>> For me it's a no-brainer: no roomates. I'd do the efficiency in a = heartbeat to avoid a roomate. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 10:14:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18577 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:14:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA03849 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:14:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08528 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:14:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:14:34 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: NJitzul@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 2Up Riding was--->RE: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline You mean you go 2up riding on the Maxim? Bald tires, bad suspension and = all!!!! You're a brave man. :-) Scooter >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/10/98 08:20AM >>> I'd have to agree a bit with Brian. If I have a new person on back, = sedate doesn't even begin to describe the pace. However, if it's my wife on the back, I can go pretty much whatever pace I feel like. She's an awesom passenger and after getting adjusted to some added weight, I almost forget she's back there...(ask her about our last trip out to 211....after a few turns the gixer's pegs started dragging through every corner...got to the top and pulled off under the overpass there and went "oops...got a little carried away" she was like 'no problem..it was fun, but maybe a touch too fast" :) ) Now that we have a little one, our rare chances to go two up are/will be more towards sedate simply because if something catastrophic were to = occur, Connor would be without any parents, and that would be unacceptable. So we'll simply minimize the risk by taking things a bit slower... Collin From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 10:25:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18719 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:25:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04034 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:25:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com (known piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08932 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AAC96E059C; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:24:57 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981110101101.00f96400@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:11:50 -0500 To: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy), dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Gloves In-Reply-To: <364c492d.528056645@beta.nova.org> References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:13 AM 11/10/98 , Kirk Roy wrote: >Ok, so you've got these electric gloves. Suppose you've got tiny >little hands, chronic tendinitis, and developing arthritis - are there >any summer thickness electric gloves? I just plain can't wear real >winter gloves for any length of time. Gerbing will wire anything you send them. Last time I checked, they'd wire my favorite gloves for $50. http://www.gerbing.com Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 10:31:54 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18867 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:31:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101531.KAA18867@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:30:12 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: e-mail problems.. non-moto Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:27:04 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Ok, I know that since I changed jobs, my e-mail's been screwy.. I'm gonna try a redirector.. so please use B_McCoy@XXXXXX for now and we'll see how things work out... Thanks.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 10:34:13 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18931 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:34:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA16869; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:32:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981110153255.IOSG9982@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:32:55 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Tom Zell" , "John C. Kozyn" , "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: Reality Check Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:30:46 -0500 Message-ID: <002701be0cbf$161f7600$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <01fb01be0c73$83aedcc0$e84b56d1@tomspc.mindspring.com> Importance: Normal Tom Zell wrote; > > Amen!!!!!!! > > Let's kill the crap folks and get back to the cool stuff... motorcycles!!! > > -Tom > '86 VFR750 (that will soon be supercharged!) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!!!Excellent!!!!! T From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:02:04 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19523 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:02:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05425 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:02:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11457 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA30743; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981110154350.ITEH9982@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:43:50 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "'Marvin Heilesen'" , "DC Cycles" , Subject: RE: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <002801be0cc0$9c5c4760$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEAF@MSCEX> Importance: Normal Collin Fagen wrote > Snake, You gotta turn off that html option :) > > Well all, I was thinking of leading a jaunt out on Sunday. One > of our newer > listers wanted some cornering lessons (at a reasonable pace) and I have a > great route that can be trimmed to any number of miles since it zig zags > between VA50 and the MD line by way of backroads...In general, we > are always > within 10/15 of a major town, passing through Purcelville and > Middleburgh a > few times. > I'm riding the Maxim, with worn out suspension and bald tires, so the pace > won't be too bad. IF need be, we can make two groups of it. I've led > enough listers down some of these roads that we'll have no problem finding > two group leaders... or more if for some strange reason we have another of > those winter turnouts of 20+ bikes... > > I propose meeting at the Burger Scream in Sterling (just off > route 7 in the > cascades shopping center) departing around 9 am?? Sound good? Or maybe > even leaving at 0830?? > Better make it 9am. 0830 to most of us means on the road by 0730....Brrrrr :| Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:05:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19634 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:05:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05471 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11564 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA08570; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:05:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3648636D.DD76D162@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:01:49 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: Kirk Roy , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Gloves X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@XXXXXX> <4.1.19981110101101.00f96400@XXXXXX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Norloff wrote: > > At 09:13 AM 11/10/98 , Kirk Roy wrote: > >Ok, so you've got these electric gloves. Suppose you've got tiny > >little hands, chronic tendinitis, and developing arthritis - are there > >any summer thickness electric gloves? I just plain can't wear real > >winter gloves for any length of time. > > Gerbing will wire anything you send them. Last time I checked, they'd wire > my favorite gloves for $50. Kirk, You might not be satisfied with this option. There are two aspects to electrically heated clothing. First is getting the heat, but second and just as important is keeping it around long enough to transfer it to your body. I have burned myself a couple of times with my electric vest. That happens when I don't have enough insulation under it to keep from getting burned by the wires and/or not enough insulation over it to stay warm while the heat soaks into my body. The polar hands might be the best solution. If you need more heat, a pair of heated grips would heat your hands, while the polar hands would keep that heat around and keep your entire hands toasty warm. OTOH, $50 is a better price than almost anything else I've seen. I think I paid close to $90 for a pair of Widder gloves that are just a $30 pair of Olympia gloves with Widder's label and wiring. Perhaps my next pair will be a pair of Olympia mittens with Gerbings wiring in them. Of course that will mean yet another wiring harness to keep in working order. Gerbing uses parallel wiring for the gloves, Widder wires gloves in series. Leon. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:07:57 1998 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19652 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:07:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [470] ([192.168.13.117]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA17715 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:09:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199811101709.MAA17715@bmdo.mcri.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Newman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:08:34 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Reality Check Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Here, Here! I thought I was the only one who was wondering where all the riders went..... -John From: "Todd Peer" To: "Tom Zell" , "John C. Kozyn" , "dc-cycles" Subject: RE: Reality Check Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:30:46 -0500 Importance: Normal Tom Zell wrote; > > Amen!!!!!!! > > Let's kill the crap folks and get back to the cool stuff... motorcycles!!! > > -Tom > '86 VFR750 (that will soon be supercharged!) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!!!Excellent!!!!! T From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:08:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19665 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:08:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA05567 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:08:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11709 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:08:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA00894; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981110160731.JCLM9982@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:07:31 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: Music - rap Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:05:21 -0500 Message-ID: <002a01be0cc3$eb43d5c0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Jack wrote: --------------- Im not going to argue with Sean about rap music and all of that "classical" stuff. Clearly today the classical ideas behind music are rather outdated. Oh yeah, one last thing, yall must be in the minority since over the last 7 years rap music is #1 (yes NUMBER ONE) in genre sales and not just in the US either, all over the world. Hmm......it must have SOMETHING going for it. --------------- yeah, like country has something going for IT...Lemmings, pablum eaters with money, and all the wannabe big pants wearing gangsta's....PUH-LEEEEZE! Sean Jordan made some very insightful remarks concerning music. Go back and TRY to understand. Your assertion that classical ideas behind music are rather outdated have no basis in anything but RAP. RAP is CRAP, and to say it is music is delusional. It is RAP and that is all. moto content (so it doesn't appear I'm wasting anyones precious bandwidth): I ride a motorcycle....duh. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:08:32 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19667 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:08:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA08663 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:09:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3648643E.3B886EF1@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:05:18 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Reality Check X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <002701be0cbf$161f7600$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Tom Zell wrote; > > '86 VFR750 (that will soon be supercharged!) Todd added > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > !!!!!Excellent!!!!! > My question is how? Where does all the plumbing fit? -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:23:17 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19929 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zdGZ7-0001Yo-00; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:22:49 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF646D@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Leon Begeman'" , dc-cycles Subject: RE: Reality Check Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:20:21 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Don't start him on the supercharger thread. It's all that's being talked about on the '86-'87 VFR list and at home!! LOL He says he's even dreaming about it now!! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:05 AM > To: dc-cycles > Subject: Re: Reality Check > > > Tom Zell wrote; > > > '86 VFR750 (that will soon be supercharged!) > > > My question is how? Where does all the plumbing fit? > > -- > Leon > Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 > Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:31:22 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20138 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:31:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101631.LAA20138@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:26:36 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Reality Check Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:18:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) we're working on that... you'll see.. *evil grin* (though NOT on my baby!!) > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [mailto:mrider@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:05 AM > To: dc-cycles > Subject: Re: Reality Check > > > > Tom Zell wrote; > > > '86 VFR750 (that will soon be supercharged!) > > Todd added > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > !!!!!Excellent!!!!! > > > > > My question is how? Where does all the plumbing fit? > > -- > Leon > Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 > Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:37:56 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20254 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:37:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06246 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:37:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (known imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA13248 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:37:46 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WBBIa04134 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:37:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3159cd03.36486bb7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:37:11 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Collins Sunday plans Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 You can count me in for Sunday!! :) Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:39:57 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20285 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:39:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06285 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:39:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from netgate.anent.com (known netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA13718 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:39:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from bruce ([208.195.115.155] (may be forged)) by netgate.anent.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00484; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:42:38 -0500 Message-ID: <016001be0cc8$bba07440$9b73c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "Todd Peer" , Subject: Re: Music - country Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:39:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 >yeah, like country has something going for IT... >Todd Yeah, yeah, I know, but I couldn't resist. THE BEST OF THE WORST COUNTRY-WESTERN SONG TITLES Get Your Biscuits In The Oven And Your Buns In The Bed Get Your Tongue Outta My Mouth 'Cause I'm Kissing You Goodbye Her Teeth Were Stained, But Her Heart Was Pure How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away? I Don't Know Whether To Kill Myself Or Go Bowling I Got In At 2 With A 10 And Woke Up At 10 With A 2 I Just Bought A Car From A Guy That Stole My Girl, But The Car Don't Run So I Figure We Got An Even Deal I Keep Forgettin' I Forgot About You I Liked You Better Before I Knew You So Well I Still Miss You, Baby, But My Aim's Gettin' Better I Wouldn't Take Her To A Dog Fight, Cause I'm Afraid She'd Win I'm So Miserable Without You, It's Like Having You Here If I Can't Be Number One In Your Life, Then Number Two On You If I Had Shot You When I Wanted To, I'd Be Out By Now Mama Get A Hammer (There's A Fly On Papa's Head) My Wife Ran Off With My Best Friend, And I Sure Do Miss Him Please Bypass This Heart She Got The Ring And I Got The Finger You Done Tore Out My Heart And Stomped That Sucker Flat You're The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:51:28 1998 Return-Path: MARKSOMM@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20572 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:51:24 -0500 (EST) From: MARKSOMM@XXXXXX Received: from MARKSOMM@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3LUUa03786 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:47:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:47:55 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Collin wrote, >What you need to do, is to get some acid...battery electrolite works >well. Pour it in the tank (off the bike of course) and slosh it around >for a while. Drain and repeat several times, then flush with copius >amounts of water. Then flush with a small amount of gas to help get rid >of the water residue. Ray wrote, >No, don't use battery acid! It will eat right through the tank. And >the frame, and your hands and clothes... Use the muriatic acid ... I have two questions. First, wouldn't it be a good idea to wash the water out with alcohol rather than gasoline? I was under the impression that gasoline wouldn't dissolve water very well. Second, aren't battery acid and muriatic acid both hydrochloric acid solutions? Mark Sommerfield From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 11:53:35 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20613 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06550 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA14904 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:53:29 -0500 (EST) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B8.005C42DB ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:47:44 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B8.00598376.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:47:40 -0500 Subject: RE: Music - rap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Oh yeah, one last thing, yall must be in the minority since over the last 7 years rap music is #1 (yes NUMBER ONE) in genre sales and not just in the US either, all over the world. Hmm......it must have SOMETHING going for it. Fortunately this fad will pass. The same as "Pet rocks, Cabbage Patch Kids, California Raisins, New Wave Music, Words like Awesome, Bad, Bitchin, Bogus, Chillin, Def and Dope, Baby on board signs, Two hundred dollar sneakers, Oakley and Rayband sun glasses, Parallel- horizontal lines shaved into hair on the side of the head, Spiked hair, and hundreds of other stupid ideas that have surfaced and died a welcome death. I live for the day when I can piss on raps grave. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:00:12 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA20756 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:00:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id IAA24199 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:59:17 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:59:17 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: MARKSOMM@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: gas tank cleanup Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:59:53 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > I have two questions. First, wouldn't it be a good idea to > wash the water out > with alcohol rather than gasoline? I was under the > impression that gasoline > wouldn't dissolve water very well. Sounds good to me - alcohol mixes VERY well with water (so well that it's almost impossible to have 100% alcohol) - gasoline won't mix at all. Second, aren't battery > acid and muriatic > acid both hydrochloric acid solutions? Battery acid is Sulphuric acid - one of the nastier corrosives available. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:03:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20789 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06771 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15314 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:03:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA30861; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:02:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981110170231.JVQZ9982@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:02:31 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Bruce Norton" , Subject: RE: Music - country Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:00:21 -0500 Message-ID: <002d01be0ccb$9a1ae1e0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <016001be0cc8$bba07440$9b73c3d0@bruce> Importance: Normal Bruce Norton wrote: > >yeah, like country has something going for IT... > >Todd > > > Yeah, yeah, I know, but I couldn't resist. > My Man! Dude, I am ROTFLMAO!! Very funny! Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:04:13 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20802 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:04:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA12911; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:52:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:05:15 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEB4@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'MARKSOMM@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: gas tank cleanup Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:05:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Yep, alchohol would be better... Using gas does a good job of knocking it out of there as well though even though it doesn't absorb/dissolve the water. Battery acid is sulphuric base (so it's a little harsher..) I should have said dilluted battery acid in my original post...a handful of nuts and bolts and some dilluted electrolite worked great in an old GSXR tank I redid for a friend.. > -----Original Message----- > From: MARKSOMM@XXXXXX [SMTP:MARKSOMM@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:59 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup > > I have two questions. First, wouldn't it be a good idea to wash the water > out > with alcohol rather than gasoline? I was under the impression that > gasoline > wouldn't dissolve water very well. Second, aren't battery acid and > muriatic > acid both hydrochloric acid solutions? > > Mark Sommerfield From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:04:21 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20812 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomspc (user-37kbm2r.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.216.91]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22315 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:03:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005001be0ccb$fb34f9c0$5bd845cf@tomspc.mindspring.com> From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Reality Check Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:02:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 The plumbing is the easy part... it's figuring out how to drive the sucker that's got me at the moment. Gonna shoot for around 5 pounds of boost... should be a cool ride when I'm done! Anyone got any old overhead-cam motors laying around that I can take the timing pulleys off of?? Need them for the drive assembly. -Tom '86 Frankenviffer -----Original Message----- From: Leon Begeman To: dc-cycles Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:17 AM Subject: Re: Reality Check >> Tom Zell wrote; >> > '86 VFR750 (that will soon be supercharged!) > >Todd added >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> !!!!!Excellent!!!!! >> > > >My question is how? Where does all the plumbing fit? > >-- >Leon >Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 >Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:05:06 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel14.mindspring.com (camel14.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20899 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:05:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomspc (user-37kbm2r.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.216.91]) by camel14.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA22280; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:04:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <005501be0ccc$1815dbe0$5bd845cf@tomspc.mindspring.com> From: "Tom Zell" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'Leon Begeman'" , "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Reality Check Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:03:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Ahhh... c'mon... I'm not that bad... well maybe... well possibly... ah darn... it's true... -Tom -----Original Message----- From: O'Brien, Jeannette To: 'Leon Begeman' ; dc-cycles Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:30 AM Subject: RE: Reality Check >Don't start him on the supercharger thread. It's all that's being >talked about on the '86-'87 VFR list and at home!! LOL >He says he's even dreaming about it now!! > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:05 AM >> To: dc-cycles >> Subject: Re: Reality Check >> >> > Tom Zell wrote; >> > > '86 VFR750 (that will soon be supercharged!) >> >> >> My question is how? Where does all the plumbing fit? >> >> -- >> Leon >> Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 >> Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:08:09 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA20955 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:08:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06892 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:08:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (known pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA15624 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA24963; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:08:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101708.MAA24963@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "DC Cycles" , Subject: Re: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:07:20 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Snake, You gotta turn off that html option :) But I am work and am forced to use this poor quality operating system and software (MickeySoft WinDoze 95 and MickeySoft IE). It's such a pain in the ass to use because I cannot configure it to automatically do what want. Whoever convinced the navy to use MS instead of IBM OS/2 needs to be taken out and shot. When I get home and can use a real software and OS, things are a lot better. (stepping down off the soapbox) Let me know how this message turns out as I tried to fix it. > I propose meeting at the Burger Scream in Sterling (just off route 7 in the > cascades shopping center) departing around 9 am?? Sound good? Or maybe > even leaving at 0830?? I'll have to find it on a map, but should be able to find it. What town is it in? Hopefully I can be on time for this one. :) Snake From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:14:36 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21073 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:14:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13705; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:02:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:15:33 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEB6@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Tom Zell'" , dc-cycles Subject: Supercharging was--->RE: Reality Check Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:15:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Wow..that should prove interesting to see...How come a supercharger instead of a turbo though? Just being unique? One would think a turbo would be much easier to install and you can get upwards of 10+ psi boost out of one. (although I suppose you can get whatever boost you wnat to apply to a supercharger as well) Sounds like a cool project. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zellto@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:13 PM > To: dc-cycles > Subject: Re: Reality Check > > The plumbing is the easy part... it's figuring out how to drive the sucker > that's got me at the moment. Gonna shoot for around 5 pounds of boost... > should be a cool ride when I'm done! > > Anyone got any old overhead-cam motors laying around that I can take the > timing pulleys off of?? Need them for the drive assembly. > > -Tom > '86 Frankenviffer > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:17:34 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21129 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:17:30 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA00953; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:18:48 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmab28205; Tue, 10 Nov 98 12:14:20 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F2700580UGR55@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B8.005E2C4B ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:08:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:05:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Sunday Ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B8.0052F49F.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I'd be interested in joining the ride, but I'm not sure what I'd be getting myself into. (For those that don't remember my first post here, I'm the newbie (3 months) with the red Seca II.) I'd love to join, but was wondering a few things: How long is the ride (time and distance) and what kind of riding skill will be required? I like to think that I'm a pretty competent rider, but with as little experience as I've had, I probably have an inflated sense of my abilities. (FWIW, I did Skyline Drive a few weekends ago and had fun) Thanks for any guidance you folks can provide. Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:19:29 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21141 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:19:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA16264 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:19:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101719.MAA16264@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "'dc'" Subject: Re: barco-Road Kings.. ok, kinda off topic.. :P Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:18:45 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Hey now.. I can be quiet too.. I just let the revs drop below 6k and get > Behind you.. It's bad when I can hear the Tunes while cruising down the > road.. are you people deaf or what?!? *grin*  I feel like I was surrounded > by thunder all day.. Rob's baffleless twin infront of me, the shadow and hog > behind me.. eesh.. good thing I wasn't on an in-line 4.. it mighta had a > fit. I am not one to complain (much) about loud motorcycles. Loud pipes do save lives, but there must be moderation. If I spend a day following someone with drag pipes, I feel like killing them personally. On Saturday's ride, it was refreshing when the dresser had nice, quiet pipes. Granted, mine are a little loud, but they are completely stock. I want pipes loud enough to be heard while cruising down the road, but not so loud that the neighbors lie in wait because I wake them up every morning. Some people's pipes forget about the consideration to others. I was just making fun of your pipes. I have ridden behind other sport bikes and the sound was more like the whine of a jet than the sound of a motorcycle.   > Oh yea.. I heard rain was in our future for the weekend.. now, I don't mind > rain.. and I don't mind cold.. but together, they'll keep me inside with a > pretty girl and a fire everytime.  Otherwise I could do another ride.. I > suppose.. I agree. I ride in the rain for transportation but not usually for pleasure. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:21:40 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21235 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:21:36 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA02686; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:21:04 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma000077; Tue, 10 Nov 98 12:17:00 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F27004L1ULX27@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:15:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B8.005E71B3 ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:11:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:12:53 -0500 Subject: Re: Gloves To: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B8.005E7A70.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL This is true per the pair I own as well ... :-) --chris To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) Date: 11/10/98 02:42:24 PM GMT Subject: Re: Gloves On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:44:10 -0500, "O'Brien, Jeannette" wrote: >I have Gerbing electric gloves, which I really recommend, because the >electrics go down the entire length of your fingers rather than just the >palm of the gloves. Per the Widder website, the electrics in their gloves go around each finger as well (I've been comparison shopping). Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:22:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21247 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07090 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:22:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA16409 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14256; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:10:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:23:36 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEB9@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: 2Up Riding Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:23:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain We haven't yet, but we will... Then again, I'm also gonna get around to fixin the freebie up one of these days... Payday is Friday, so I'll probably order a set after that.... The fork seals will also be replaced over the next few months (and I'll probably add a big spacer in with the springs to stiffen the front up) The rear shocks will just have to suck for a while longer..they're a little more of a pain to fix... (not sure if I can redo the seals on them or not..may just have to replace them) Once I get the tires and the forks straightened out, I'll let Pen ride the bike on her own... Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [SMTP:SRUSH@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:15 AM > To: NJitzul@XXXXXX; snake69@XXXXXX; Fagan, Collin LTJG; > Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: 2Up Riding was--->RE: Arch Run survivors...RE: > ERCsurvivors? > > You mean you go 2up riding on the Maxim? Bald tires, bad suspension and > all!!!! You're a brave man. :-) > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:23:43 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21271 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:23:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:20:23 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 10 Nov 1998 11:54:52 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 10 Nov 1998 11:54:52 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 013D036486FDC005-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 013D036486FDC005 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <013D036486FDC005*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 10 Nov 1998 11:54:52 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: DC Cycles Subject: The Insurance Company Message-Id: <013D036486FDC005*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Well fellow listers, I just got off the phone with my insurance company. The newest estimate to fix my bike is $3,200, which is less than the original estimate of $3,500. I can't wait to get the estimate faxed to me to see what the insurance company isn't prepared to fix. Don B. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:28:03 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21388 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:28:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA19295 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:27:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101727.MAA19295@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC-Cycles List" Subject: Re: **THE ARCH RUN--Dear Diary, What's next?** Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:27:22 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Last summer I was escorting a bicycle ride that had rest stops about every > 15 - 30 miles. If there was a long strech of woods with no gas stations or > other facilities availible, the ladies were just as willing to take a walk > into the woods. Of course they tended to walk a little farther, and you'd > only see the top of their heads peaking out of the bush, where as the guys > would go in maybe one layer of trees and stand there proudly. :-) I was pretty much raised in the woods (born in a barn, etc). Out on the farm, we just walked up to a fence post and watered the weeds. Not much modesty if no one is anywhere within a mile or so. And if anyone was looking, it's no big deal..... :( The women on the farm were not quite a bold, but you get the picture. It's all these city people who a problem..... :) As I remember waiting to ride in Rolling Thunder, there were quite a few who ventured off into the woods as we sat there and waited. Snake From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:29:11 1998 Return-Path: harry@XXXXXX Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.meretrix.com [127.0.0.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21410 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:29:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101729.MAA21410@meretrix.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Country Music, Wacky Jokes, etc. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:29:10 -0500 From: Harry Mantakos dc-cycles is a collection of around 185 people who have one thing in common, they share an interest in motorcycling. They're interested enough that they've agreed to receive lots of email every day with talk about motorcycling. There are mailing lists out there for discussing just about anything you can think of, music, movies, jokes, whatever. We should assume that many of the people who are subscribed to this list are not interested enough in these other topics to receive lots of email every day about them. So the bottom line is, the list needs to stay focused on motorcycling, because that's the only thing we've all agreed we're interested in. Discussions occasionally stray far afield from where they began, these discussions need to be squelched or moved to private email. Also the "I heard a funny joke today" postings are fine if you're posting to the funny-joke-today mailing list, but unless it is a "funny motorcycling joke", you have to assume that those of us who are interested in this have already subscribed to a joke mailing list. As another couple of rules of thumb, I've found that for a high percentage of postings that contain the words "I couldn't resist", the poster should have resisted, and if you find yourself putting "non-moto" in the message, then there's a good chance that this message belongs on the "people who are interested in things not pertaining to motorcycling in the DC area" mailing list. -harry p.s. Trying to stem the stream of "unsubscribe" messages arriving in my mailbox... From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:34:44 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21565 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:34:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA25813; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:34:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199811101734.MAA25813@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:33:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Sunday Ride Priority: normal In-reply-to: <852566B8.0052F49F.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 10 Nov 98, at 10:05, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > How long is the ride (time and distance) and what > kind of riding skill will be required? I like to think that I'm a pretty > competent rider, but with as little experience as I've had, I probably > have an inflated sense of my abilities. (FWIW, I did Skyline Drive a few > weekends ago and had fun) Chris, The Skyline Ride is long, and tiring (but very enjoyable)... if you made it through that okay you'll do okay on Sunday. If there is a large turnout we'll probably wind up with a fast group and a "normal" group, so all riding abilities will be accomodated! Right, Collin? Don't mean to speak for you here! :-) I probably know most, if not all, of the roads that we'll be on, so I can ride "sweep" if need be. Or at least make sure that we don't get *too* lost! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:36:24 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21645 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA22178; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:36:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101736.MAA22178@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "'LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX'" , Subject: Re: **Dear Diary... The Arch Run** Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:35:33 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > One thing I can say for Lee.. is.. uhh.. she's... SHORT. *chuckle* I can't > wait to see you on your own bike Lee.. just to watch you at stops and in > parking lots. I'm sure it'll be humurous to see you getting settled on that > big new bike you're thinking of getting.. what were you looking at.. a > 1500!!?? Now wait a minute. Harassing Lee is MY job. :) And, she does much better now that she has those high-heeled boots.... She can even reach the foot pegs..... Snake From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:41:53 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21734 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:41:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07344 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:41:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (known pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17249 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:41:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id MAA24318 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:41:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101741.MAA24318@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Endorsement Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:41:10 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0CA7.64A41820" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0CA7.64A41820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Try Meyers Cycle Engineering, 10529 Summit Ave, Kennsington MD (301) > 897-0050 for Brit parts locally. They came through for me with a clutch > cable late on a Saturday. Excellent reputation for repair work too. I know that they do a lot of Triumph work. Besides that, I have been taking my bike to them for all its maintenance (shadow). I am not allowed to work on the bike at my quarters, and I know nothing about motorcycle mechanics (I can rebuild a chevy 350 in my sleep). I am pleased with the service there. Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0CA7.64A41820 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Try Meyers Cycle Engineering, =  10529 Summit Ave, Kennsington MD (301)
> 897-0050 for Brit = parts locally.  They came through for me with a clutch
> = cable late on a Saturday.  Excellent reputation for repair work = too.

I know that they do a lot of Triumph = work.  Besides that, I have been
taking my bike to them for all = its maintenance (shadow).  I am not
allowed to work on the bike = at my quarters, and I know nothing
about motorcycle mechanics (I can = rebuild a chevy 350 in my sleep).  
I am pleased with the = service there.

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0CA7.64A41820-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:42:33 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21811 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:42:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomspc (user-38lc47m.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.16.246]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA02235; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:42:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002f01be0cd1$51edf500$f61056d1@tomspc.mindspring.com> From: "Tom Zell" To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Supercharging was--->RE: Reality Check Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:41:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I decided against the turbo and here's why... to turbo charge the VFR (or any m/c for that matter) the cost can be upwards of $4,000! I'm getting away with it for probably less $300 due to the fact that I'm going to use a smog pump... YES... a smog pump to produce the boost. Don't laugh folks... these things can produce enough boost pressure to completely grenade a small engine(such as a m/c's) if you're not careful. I can get a rebuilt pump for around $50. The hardest part is the drive assembly... please feel free to give me any ideas that you may have(you really have to know the VFR's motor though to uderstand it). I was going to use a dual port pump... meaning that there is an intake port and an exhaust port that can be swapped depending on which way you turn the pump. Most pumps actually pull air from right behind the pulley. Using a dual port will make it useable on the left side of the engine(which is where most of the room is). I'm figuring that I would drive it from a shaft that would be part of the alternator rotor. Anyway.. thats it... gotta go to work folks. -Tom -----Original Message----- From: Fagan, Collin LTJG To: 'Tom Zell' ; dc-cycles Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:13 PM Subject: Supercharging was--->RE: Reality Check >Wow..that should prove interesting to see...How come a supercharger instead >of a turbo though? >Just being unique? One would think a turbo would be much easier to install >and you can get upwards of 10+ psi boost out of one. (although I suppose you >can get whatever boost you wnat to apply to a supercharger as well) > >Sounds like a cool project. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tom Zell [SMTP:zellto@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:13 PM >> To: dc-cycles >> Subject: Re: Reality Check >> >> The plumbing is the easy part... it's figuring out how to drive the sucker >> that's got me at the moment. Gonna shoot for around 5 pounds of boost... >> should be a cool ride when I'm done! >> >> Anyone got any old overhead-cam motors laying around that I can take the >> timing pulleys off of?? Need them for the drive assembly. >> >> -Tom >> '86 Frankenviffer >> >> From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:42:48 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21822 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:42:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15711; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:30:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:43:49 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEBA@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Sunday Ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:43:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Well, the beauty of the route I'm thinking of is its flexibility. It can be anywhere from as short as a hundred miles to over 400 miles without really getting any farther west than a few miles past middleburgh.... I figure we can plan on about 150 miles or so then decide at lunch how much more we want to do. Like I said in the earlier post, we can always split into two or more groups. This is preferable if we have a large turnout anyhow. One group can go along a bit zippier, while the other toodles along at a comfy pace. Whenever I take a group out somewhere I want to make sure everyone is comfortable with the situation...makes for a much more fun ride. The only thing I do discriminate against is when someone shows up for a sport ride (i.e. fast) wearing no protective gear (i.e. shorts, tank top, tennies, etc.) I don't want to have to live with the thought of knowing serious injuries could have been avoided should that person meet the pavement. It's their choice and they can ride like that all they want, but I won't take em anywhere... Collin PS: were you in Tyson's corner the other day on your SECA? I think it was Wednesday or Thursday...I say a red seca and rider wearing black helmet... I gave a big wave as I went by on rte 7. > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX > [SMTP:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:28 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Sunday Ride > > I'd be interested in joining the ride, but I'm not sure what I'd be > getting > myself into. (For those that don't remember my first post here, I'm the > newbie (3 months) with the red Seca II.) I'd love to join, but was > wondering a few things: How long is the ride (time and distance) and what > kind of riding skill will be required? I like to think that I'm a pretty > competent rider, but with as little experience as I've had, I probably > have > an inflated sense of my abilities. (FWIW, I did Skyline Drive a few > weekends ago and had fun) > > Thanks for any guidance you folks can provide. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:44:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21868 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:44:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07430 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:44:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (known imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17357 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:44:39 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WGYZa04133 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:42:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <62f38e36.36487b21@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:42:57 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Music - rap - fad?? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/10/98 12:00:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Steve_Beck@acs- desktop.com writes: << Fortunately this fad will pass. The same as "Pet rocks, Cabbage Patch Kids, California Raisins, New Wave Music, Words like Awesome, Bad, Bitchin, Bogus, Chillin, Def and Dope, Baby on board signs, Two hundred dollar sneakers, Oakley and Rayband sun glasses, Parallel- horizontal lines shaved into hair on the side of the head, Spiked hair, and hundreds of other stupid ideas that have surfaced and died a welcome death. I live for the day when I can piss on raps grave. >> 7 Years is quite a long fad...and since rap music is still going strong theres no end to that "fad" in sight. Hey Sean, you wanna look up "fad" for us in that dictionary of yours? I cant say I remember cabbage patch kids, Bitchin, and Baby on Board being popular for 7 years (with no drop in popularity). Im glad there are alternatives to having to listen to Alanis Morrisette bitch and moan about men and Reba talk about loving you. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:50:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22034 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:50:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07631 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (known imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17652 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:50:12 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WVPZa02329 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:49:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4fa7e872.36487cb1@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:49:37 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Music - rap - hate of rap music/ racism Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/10/98 12:10:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: << yeah, like country has something going for IT...Lemmings, pablum eaters with money, and all the wannabe big pants wearing gangsta's....PUH-LEEEEZE! Sean Jordan made some very insightful remarks concerning music. Go back and TRY to understand. Your assertion that classical ideas behind music are rather outdated have no basis in anything but RAP. RAP is CRAP, and to say it is music is delusional. It is RAP and that is all. >> Damn man, chill out. Did Snoop Dogg bang your sister or something? I cant say Ive heard anyone come out that hard on some music no matter what kind it is. Really, its all about personal preference and since we dont ride in the same car or live in the same house, lay off my music. By the way, how many of you "rap haters" have really ever LISTENED to rap music? Prolly VERY few...its just the stereotypical reaction of society. And the really sad part (and Im not speaking of specific people here just society in general) is that alot of people hate it simply because its BLACK PEOPLE BEING SUCCESSFUL! Im not trying to start a racist thread here but I know that not everyone is racially tolerant (Im sure a few of yall arent). Alot of people dislike it because its black people making more money "doing something waaaay easier than their job". Really pathetic how society is nowadays. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:50:49 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA22051 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:50:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id JAA03868 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:45:23 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:45:23 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Sunday Ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:46:05 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > If there is a > large turnout we'll probably wind up with a fast group and a > "normal" group, Funny - I always considered that we broke into a slow group and a normal group... Michael (it's all a matter of perspective) J. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:54:22 1998 Return-Path: brad.faas@XXXXXX Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (viper.bcbsblue.com [208.146.143.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22080 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:54:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (root@localhost) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id MAA22483 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:54:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com ([199.97.109.162]) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id MAA22476 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com (root@localhost) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with ESMTP id MAA09236 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:54:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from NCAIMAIL1 ([192.168.79.211]) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with SMTP id MAA09227 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:54:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101754.MAA09227@nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com> Priority: urgent Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:52:00 -0500 From: "FAAS, BRAD" Subject: RE: Sunday Ride To: "christopher.a.weaver" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME I've been riding about 8 months now. I also thought I handled the bike fairly well. Then I ended up by chance riding back with Fred (another lister) from a day up at Summit Point. I then decided I had MUCH to learn. :-) I have also followed my friend through Sky Line drive. He rides a Honda ST 1100 -- I ride a Kaw. EX500. He could push his bike through the coners MUCH faster than I would dare. So come on out -- that's why I'm going. The more you ride, the better you get. Following experienced riders is one of the best things you can do -- it makes you push your limits, while not going over them. I don't think you'll be disappointed. --Brad -----Original Message----- From: christopher.a.weaver [mailto:christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 10:06 AM To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Sunday Ride ---------------------------------------------------- I'd be interested in joining the ride, but I'm not sure what I'd be getting myself into. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 12:55:32 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22103 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:55:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA07814 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:55:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA17790 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:55:27 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WKVFa03291 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:54:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:54:33 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: sunday ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 count me in . . .I've got a choice between my wife's standard or my sportbike . . .is this ride's personality fairly mellow? (VTR vs 883) Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 13:00:08 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22311 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:00:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17089; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:00:46 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEBB@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Jordan, Michael'" , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Sunday Ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:00:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain This coming from a man on an apparently jet propelled couch ;-) he he he > -----Original Message----- > From: Jordan, Michael [SMTP:mike@XXXXXX] > Subject: RE: Sunday Ride > > Funny - I always considered that we broke into a slow group and a normal > group... > > Michael (it's all a matter of perspective) J. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 13:00:44 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22323 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:00:39 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101800.NAA22323@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:59:28 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'Marvin Heilesen'" , "'LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: **Dear Diary... The Arch Run** Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:56:15 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) reach the footpegs with her feet.. or the new heels? Is she using a cane to stedy herself on the new Stilts? And Lee, how do you shift up if you can't get your toes under the shifter.. oh, wait.. nevermind.. heel shifter... *grin* Running and jumping (she's short remember, don't have to worry about attacks from above) > -----Original Message----- > > And, she does much better now that she has those high-heeled > boots.... > She can even reach the foot pegs..... > > Snake > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 13:06:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22424 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:06:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08254 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (known imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA18203 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:06:00 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WXBOa04680 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:05:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:05:20 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: sunday ride pace/answered! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 cancel my last question! It has been already answered! From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 13:08:54 1998 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22453 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:08:53 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3QIOa04682; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:08:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <45a2ac93.36488101@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:08:01 EST To: DC-Cycles List Cc: SJordan185@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Nature Stops Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 God only knows I love and respect nature... But I do have my limitations. Only in EXTREME emergencies would I consider a non-flushing mechanism. In fact, I haven't encountered one yet. And since I'm too old to change now, (don't touch this one Brian!) I'll just make sure that I don't have any liquids 4 hours before riding. You're going to have to wait to laugh at me on my bike Brian... Mine is in hybernation for the winter. I assure you, my feet do touch the ground. OK, maybe not flat, but I got the toes touching! From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 13:11:52 1998 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22488 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:11:49 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3YAHa04134 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:10:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <23635002.3648819e@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:10:38 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: **Dear Diary... The Arch Run** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 In a message dated 11/10/98 12:36:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, snake69@XXXXXX writes: << > One thing I can say for Lee.. is.. uhh.. she's... SHORT. *chuckle* I can't > wait to see you on your own bike Lee.. just to watch you at stops and in > parking lots. I'm sure it'll be humurous to see you getting settled on that > big new bike you're thinking of getting.. what were you looking at.. a > 1500!!?? Now wait a minute. Harassing Lee is MY job. :) And, she does much better now that she has those high-heeled boots.... She can even reach the foot pegs..... Snake >> Thank God for Heels!!! From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 13:23:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22791 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:23:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08508 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:23:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (known mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA18794 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:22:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101822.NAA18794@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:20:12 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: sunday ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:14:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) bring the VTR if you're willing to trade up a little.. *grin* always wanted to ride one... er, wait.. so long as the VTR isn't a 250.. :P I tried one of those.. Once.. lethargic is an understatement. > -----Original Message----- > From: JKBroga@XXXXXX [mailto:JKBroga@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 12:55 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: sunday ride > > > count me in . . .I've got a choice between my wife's standard > or my sportbike > . . .is this ride's personality fairly mellow? (VTR vs 883) > > Jonathan > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 13:31:16 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22953 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:31:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA31953; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:31:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199811101831.NAA31953@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Jordan, Michael" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:30:32 -0500 Subject: RE: Sunday Ride CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 10 Nov 98, at 9:46, Jordan, Michael wrote: > Funny - I always considered that we broke into a slow group and a normal > group... Actually, I think there are three groups: 1. New riders: Need to ride at their own pace to get used to riding in general, group riding, twisty roads, etc. 2. Experienced riders: Very familiar with the safe operation of their motorcycles, and are comfortable riding in groups. On familiar roads, can leave group one in the dust. I consider myself solidly in this category, with 10K+ miles under my belt in the past year. New riders consider me fast, fast riders wonder where the heck I am (after leaving me in the dust). 3. Fast riders: Can leave group one and two in the dust under most circumstances. Except maybe in the rain, then I can usually keep up! :-) I'm pretty happy in Group 2, and don't really aspire to be in Group 3. Except maybe in a cornering school or at a track day... that way I can concentrate on "fast" without worrying about the pickup truck or tractor stopped in my lane, just around the next blind corner! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 13:44:01 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23196 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:43:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA08867 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA22220 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:45:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:44:33 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: cfagan@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: 2Up Riding Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Don't stiffen 'em up too much. You were doing some nice scraping at the = class Saturday. :-) I heard you clear across the range. Scooter >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/10/98 12:23PM >>> The fork seals will also be replaced over the next few months (and I'll probably add a big spacer in with the springs to stiffen the front up) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 13:57:52 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23481 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:57:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101857.NAA23481@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:55:29 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Group 3 type wanna-bes.. Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:48:06 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Anita, and anyone else interested.. If you're serious about this, I'm sure Collin and I can help you out in a varitey of ways. From just basic information about track days, helping you get the bike ready.. possibly even loaning a bike (Collin, get one of them EX's together already!!) to try it on. Moral and even a bit of physical support is always VERY handy while at the track.. The offer's there should anyone find interest in taking me (us) up on it.. Just think, you could go home and praise about the grace, kindness, and saintly like nature of Team DC-Cycles Racing..... fake halo --> O:) Brian > -----Original Message----- > I'm pretty happy in Group 2, and don't really aspire to be in Group > 3. Except maybe in a cornering school or at a track day... that > way I can concentrate on "fast" without worrying about the pickup > truck or tractor stopped in my lane, just around the next blind > corner! :-) > > Anita > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 14:05:41 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23708 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:05:13 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811101905.OAA23708@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:02:47 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday Ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:20:57 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Brad.. come try to follow the madman on the old cruiser with hardbags that's leaking forkoil (if there's any left in the fork that is!) all over the single front brake rotor.. :P No, not me and my bike this time.. :P heh - Collin, we've kinda traded places with bikes... Watch, now Collin's gonna go get one of the EX500's on the road.. or, heaven forbid, the racebike.. :P (I can see it now, GSXR with number plates still on it, a flashlight duct-taped to the fairing, and a mirror strapped to his glove... no brakelight - just red tape.. :P) Brian > -----Original Message----- > He could push > his bike > through the coners MUCH faster than I would dare. So come on out -- > that's why I'm going. The more you ride, the better you get. > Following > experienced riders is one of the best things you can do -- it > makes you > push your limits, while not going over them. I don't think > you'll be > disappointed. > > --Brad From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 14:23:22 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24049 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:23:18 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id OAA01739; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:24:46 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma001432; Tue, 10 Nov 98 14:24:33 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F2800K7D0J4RK@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:23:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B8.006A2826 ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:19:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:11:09 -0500 Subject: RE: Sunday Ride To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B8.00696D31.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Must have been someone else. I didn't ride during the week last week due to cold temps and overtime at work. :^( Thanks for the wave anyway! ;^) As for Sunday, I'm in. I'm catsitting (!) and housesitting for my sister at her place way up in Maryland (I live in Manassas) this weekend. The only thing that would keep me from being on the ride would be the logistics of when I need to feed the felines and/or pick my sister up at the airport. I think it should work out fine though. If I have to, I can just split at lunch time. Chris "bundled up and ready to ride" Weaver Collin Fagan wrote: PS: were you in Tyson's corner the other day on your SECA? I think it was Wednesday or Thursday...I say a red seca and rider wearing black helmet... I gave a big wave as I went by on rte 7. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 14:40:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24349 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:40:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA09980 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:40:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (known cap1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA25658 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:40:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id OAA24124; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:40:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:40:13 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Elec grip warmers, was Gloves In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBF644E@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I still have 3 or 4 inside-the-handlebar cartridge heaters for sale, @ $20. Used one last winter on 1978 Suzuki 750 with no problems. Comes w on-off switch, (can modify to rheostat, but I rarely wanted less heat than I was getting). Takes about 10 minutes before you notice much warmth. First-time installation will probably take 1.5 - 2 hours and requires drilling 1 or 2 small holes in your handlebars (you can avoid this by running the wires from the handlebar ends, but I haven't tried it this way). --garcia On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > I have Gerbing electric gloves, which I really recommend, because the > electrics go down the entire length of your fingers rather than just the > palm of the gloves. > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 11:51 PM > > To: Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) > > Cc: LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Gloves was Re: I hate rap > > > > Widder. http://www.widder.com or 1-800-WYB-COLD Some guys like grip > > heaters instead of gloves. I've never tried those. > > > > Electric clothes are like sex. It's possible to go one's entire life > > without it, but why would anyone want to? > > > > -- > > Leon > > Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 > > Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 14:41:31 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24371 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:41:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24403; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:27:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:40:56 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B121BEBD@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'McCoy, Brian NAB02'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Sunday Ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:40:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hmmm.. I DO have a tail light that I think would shove up under the seat....and I'm sure I could finagle the EX500 light onto the front somehow.... No dice on an EX by the weekend..First I have to get it running...(haven't had time to play with the keyswitches yet, but I'm off tomorrow). After that, I need to find an 89-93 front wheel and rotor or a set of 94+ fork bottoms so I can mount the 94 front wheel I have... Yep, looks like I'll be on the Maxim luxury edition pogo stick. Minus the hard bags though... since the locking system no longer locks, I don't trust them to stay on for long trips over bumpy roads (another thing that may get fixed tomorrow) Fork oil??? I don't need no stinkin fork oil :) I haven't opened it yet (scared to) but my guess is that the left one is bone dry and the right one is low. After tires, it's top on the priority list. Brakes?? what fer? he he he...I thought that front right lever was just an indicator switch so I can keep you outa the grass! If we do split into a faster and slower group, I'll definitely have some fun throwing spark showers off the maxims incredibly low footpegs...They ARE getting pretty beveled though :) > -----Original Message----- > From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [SMTP:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 2:17 PM > Cc: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' > Subject: RE: Sunday Ride > > Brad.. come try to follow the madman on the old cruiser with hardbags > that's > leaking forkoil (if there's any left in the fork that is!) all over the > single front brake rotor.. :P > > No, not me and my bike this time.. :P heh - Collin, we've kinda traded > places with bikes... > > Watch, now Collin's gonna go get one of the EX500's on the road.. or, > heaven > forbid, the racebike.. :P (I can see it now, GSXR with number plates still > on it, a flashlight duct-taped to the fairing, and a mirror strapped to > his > glove... no brakelight - just red tape.. :P) > > Brian > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 14:46:48 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24508 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:46:46 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3BUOa19214 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:46:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:46:02 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Sunday ride/VTR1000F Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 In a message dated 11/10/98 1:30:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX writes: << bring the VTR if you're willing to trade up a little.. *grin* always wanted to ride one... er, wait.. so long as the VTR isn't a 250.. :P I tried one of those.. Once.. lethargic is an understatement. >> No sir, this is the real deal. Needs re-jetting from the Wolf pipes, but lethargic is not generally used to describe this ride . . . I'm no hot shoe, raced motocross but on the street I'm pretty lame, I ran summit point at a 1:42 during the Sept. track day, so I know I'm pretty slow, but the bike is not my limiting factor. What are you riding? Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 14:52:08 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24615 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:52:06 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3TSPa17824 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:51:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7cf55a42.3648992f@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:51:11 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: K&N Filter Info Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_910727472_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_910727472_boundary Content-ID: <0_910727472@XXXXXX> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Don't know how much this applies to any of you on this list, or even how accurate the info is, but I thought it interesting. Makes me want to change my filter! Jonathan VTR1000F --part0_910727472_boundary Content-ID: <0_910727472@XXXXXX> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (rly-yc05.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.37]) by air-yc02.mail.aol.com (v51.16) with SMTP; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:31:25 -0500 Received: from lists1.best.com (lists1.best.com [206.86.8.15]) by rly-yc05.mail.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id OAA01029; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:31:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by lists1.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.ls) id KAA18361; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:34:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811101834.KAA18361@lists1.best.com> From: Lance_Keigwin@XXXXXX (Lance Keigwin) Subject: Fwd:K&N Filter Info Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:33:52 -0800 BestServHost: lists.best.com Sender: superhawk-errors@XXXXXX Errors-To: superhawk-errors@XXXXXX Reply-To: SuperHawk@XXXXXX To: superhawk@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit There's been a lot of discussion on this list about K&N filters. I thought this post from another list might be interesting. Lance. ____________________Forward Header_____________________ Subject: K&N Filter Info Author: rustie@XXXXXX Date: 11/9/98 9:09 PM Chuck: >Is anyone using the ram air system? I'm very curious as to it's worth >for top >in "stones". Also, what air claener works best with this (K&N?) >Anyone using >the K&N with the stock air box? Here is a reprint that was posted to another cycle list of some verrry suprising "new data" on K&N filters that I think you may all find "interesting" to say the least, I did! Subj: K & N filters John: If I wrote "subjective" I meant "objective"..I was responsible for evaluating re-usable air filters for a major construction/mining company that had hundreds of vehicles ranging from large earthmovers to pick-up trucks and salesmen's cars. This study was embarked upon due to the fact that we were spending upwards of $30,000 a MONTH on paper air filters. Using them one time then throwing them away.. I inititated the study in that I was convinced that a K&N type filter or oiled foam would save us many dollars per year in filter savings, man hour savings, and of course engines as these would filter dirt better than paper. (yes, I had read the K&N ads and was a believer) Representative test units were chosen to give us a broad spectrum from cars right through large front end loaders. With each unit we had a long history of oil analysis records so that changes would be trackable . Unfortunately, for me, every single unit having alternative re-usable air cleaners showed an immediate large jump in silicon (dirt) levels with corresponding major increases in wear metals. In one extreme case, a unit with a primary and secondary air cleaner, the secondary (small paper element) clogged before even one day's test run could be completed. This particular unit had a Cummins V-12 engine that had paper/paper one bank and K&N/paper on the other bank; two completely independent induction systems. The conditions were EXACTLY duplicated for each bank yet the K&N allowed so much dirt to pass through that the small filter became clogged before lunch. The same outcome occurred with oiled foams on this unit. We discontinued the tests on the large pieces almost immediately but continued with service trucks, formen's vehicles, and my own company car. Analysis results continued showing markedly increased wear rates for all the vehicles, mine included. Test concluded, switched back to paper/glass and all vehicles showed reduction back to near original levels of both wear metals and dirt. I continued with the K&N on my company car out of stubbornness and at 85,000 miles the Chevy 305 V-8 wheezed its last breath. The top end was sanded badly; bottom end was just fine. End of test. I must stress that EVERYONE involved in this test was hoping that alternative filters would work as everyone was sick about pulling out a perfectly good $85 air cleaner and throwing 4 of them away each week per machine... So, I strongly suggest that depending upon an individual's long term plan for their vehicles they simply run an oil analysis at least once to see that the K&N or whatever alternative air filter is indeed working IN THAT APPLICATION... It depends on a person's priorities. If you want performance then indeed the K&N is the way to go but at what cost??? --part0_910727472_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 14:52:40 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24626 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:54:09 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:53:32 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Sunday Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'd love to join you guys and gals on the ride Sunday but, the folks are = going to be in town this weekend and I won't be able to make it. :-( I'm = taking them to see Reba for their anniversary. You know, quality time. = :-D Scooter From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:02:05 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24874 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:02:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10399 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:02:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (known pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27042 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA10524 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:01:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811102001.PAA10524@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:01:16 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > LOL... I wasn't saying you were complaining. You don't seem to be the type to > complain. You seemed to be handling the pace quite well and that's the pace > that I normally ride unfamiliar roads. At any rate, it was a fun ride with > lots of great scenery. Hopefully there will be more! Yes, it was great scenery. All the colors were great. I handled the pace just fine except for that one bridge. It was the one with the real tight left turn into it. Right when my wife decided she wanted to shift her weight. That one was a little scary. I keep telling her to shift all she wants at higher speeds when we're traveling in a straight line. Slow speeds are the worst time for unexpected exaggerated passenger movement, especially when navigating a tight turn. But, what can I say. This is my first bike large enough to ride with a passenger. I would have nightmares about trying to come to a stop on my old bike with the added weight of a passenger. Snake From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:03:33 1998 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24896 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id PAA28974; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:03:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:03:25 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: MARKSOMM@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Muriatic is hydrochloric, battery acid is (moderately diluted) sulfuric. Neither dissolves rust, I don't think, but they do dissolve steel tanks. This loosens rust and allows it to be more easily knocked off. I'd go with Carl Custer's suggestion of phosphoric (or oxalic or citric) acid. For removing water, alcohol works ok, but acetone is better and much faster. --garcia On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 MARKSOMM@XXXXXX wrote: > Collin wrote, > >What you need to do, is to get some acid...battery electrolite works > >well. Pour it in the tank (off the bike of course) and slosh it around > >for a while. Drain and repeat several times, then flush with copius > >amounts of water. Then flush with a small amount of gas to help get rid > >of the water residue. > > Ray wrote, > >No, don't use battery acid! It will eat right through the tank. And > >the frame, and your hands and clothes... Use the muriatic acid ... > > > I have two questions. First, wouldn't it be a good idea to wash the water out > with alcohol rather than gasoline? I was under the impression that gasoline > wouldn't dissolve water very well. Second, aren't battery acid and muriatic > acid both hydrochloric acid solutions? > > Mark Sommerfield > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:04:35 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24908 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:04:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981110200623.19399.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.45.126] by send202.yahoomail.com; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:06:23 PST Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:06:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: What's this bike? To: "Gil M. Nissley" , "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Cc: "'dc'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Nope, Allazzurra was a twin-shock 650 Pantah-engined Duck. Not really a rebadged Ducati in that Cagiva was the parent company; it's more like two pickups coming off the assembly line and one being a Chevy and the next being a GMC. There's one in my basement if you want to see one in the flesh (or in the feather, being a Duck) Ray ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > Cagive Alazzurra Super Sport > > Someone offered to trade it to me for my RS125.. only I don't know the bike > > at all.. > > Basically,it's a rebadged Ducati.Most were 650's,but there may have been > a 750.Shared it's motor with the Elephant(DP/Paris Dakar bike).Never saw an > article on them in any of the moto mags,but I saw one in the flesh once. > If memory serves,it had a full cradle frame w/monoshock rear,half fairing > (I'm sure there was also a full fairing version),Marzochi(sp?) suspenders, > triple Brembo disks,18" wheels.Styled close to the 80's Ducks. > Check out the Duck websites,they should have some info. > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:05:59 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24988 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:05:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10467 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:05:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (known imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA27262 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:05:53 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WUXVa03785 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:03:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9a0661ba.36489c0a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:03:22 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: K&N Filter Info Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Thats strange to hear since K&N has been in business for many years and their business only gets better. You would think if they were massly burning out motors someone would stop buying them. Guess not. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:12:12 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25148 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id MAA00272 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:05:16 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:05:16 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Sunday Ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:05:56 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Collin - I'm not sure if I'm insulted or not Will let you know as soon as I figure it out Michael J. > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [mailto:cfagan@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 13:01 > To: Jordan, Michael; Anita Lauro; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Sunday Ride > > > This coming from a man on an apparently jet propelled couch > ;-) he he he > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jordan, Michael [SMTP:mike@XXXXXX] > > Subject: RE: Sunday Ride > > > > Funny - I always considered that we broke into a slow group > and a normal > > group... > > > > Michael (it's all a matter of perspective) J. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:13:01 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25176 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:12:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id MAA01367 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:11:41 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:11:41 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: Ray , "Gil M. Nissley" , "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Cc: "'dc'" Subject: RE: What's this bike? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:12:22 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > see one in the flesh (or in the feather, being a Duck) With (translating from the Italian) light blue wings, yet! Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:14:42 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25210 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id MAA01719 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:13:47 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:13:47 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Sunday Ride Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:14:30 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Actually, I think there are three groups: > 1. New riders: > 2. Experienced riders: > 3. Fast riders: Put me down for 2.5 (+/- 1) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:24:06 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25409 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:23:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811102023.PAA25409@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:57:41 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: wheee.. :) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:54:32 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Nothin like going to work, early in the morning when the ground hasn't seen light or much friction in lots of hours.. the tires are still cold and I'm running late.. This morning I managed to downshift a bit stiffly coming into the corner that is my entrance ramp on 495.. back end broke WAY out.. slid all over the place (and me right infront of some geezer who was attempting to keep up with me :P). Nothing like 1/2 your normal contact patches to add to early morning wakefullness.. :P Yea, I managed to ride the thing out (somehow got on the gas to much which kept it spinning a bit longer than necessary.. er, but that was on purpose.. :) , make the corner and merge onto 495 at a slightly elivated speed (noone has to slow down to let ME on..).. Fun.. but a reminder that cold road and cold tires can equal sudden loss of traction.. Everyone ride safe out there (right now esp. with the slight precip I'm seeing out the window) Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:34:07 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25590 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:34:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981110203542.19114.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.45.126] by send201.yahoomail.com; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:35:42 PST Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:35:42 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: What's BSA ? To: "Jordan, Michael" , "John C. Kozyn" , dc-cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was thinking, and I really can't remember if they had Lee-Enfield or BSA rifles (both motorcycle manufacturers in thier time, so I guess this is m/c related), they were some sort of bull-pup design. They oiled the metal pieces inside and out to prevent rust, when they stacked arms they left little oil puddles. And they DID have Lucas electrics! At least the ones with electronic scopes did. Ray No Relation Lucas ---"Jordan, Michael" wrote: > > > I was working with some British Marines in the Carribbean that had, > > you guessed it, BSA automatic rifles. At risk to my own life, I > > pointed out that most of them appeared to be leaking oil. > > Ray > > Wonder if they had Lucas electrics?? :-( > > > > "Birmingham Small Arms" > > Check out the logo - three tented rifles > > Yamaha's three tuning forks are another interesting motorcycle logo > > Michael J. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 15:41:49 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25734 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:41:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981110204345.14467.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.45.126] by send202.yahoomail.com; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:43:45 PST Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:43:45 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Supercharging To: Leon Begeman , dc-cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Where would the drivebelt for the blower be driven from? In this case, what are the advantages of blower over turbo? ---Leon Begeman wrote: > > > Tom Zell wrote; > > > '86 VFR750 (that will soon be supercharged!) > > Todd added > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > !!!!!Excellent!!!!! > > > > > My question is how? Where does all the plumbing fit? > > -- > Leon > Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 > Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 16:27:49 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA26800 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:27:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id NAA13864 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:26:49 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:26:49 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: Ray , Leon Begeman , dc-cycles Subject: RE: Supercharging Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:27:31 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > In this > case, what are the advantages of blower over turbo? The same as always - instant boost with no lag. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 16:49:00 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA27181 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA08911; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:47:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981110214742.NKGK9982@XXXXXX>; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:47:42 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Garcia Oliver" , Cc: Subject: RE: gas tank cleanup Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:45:31 -0500 Message-ID: <003901be0cf3$70a99220$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal > > Muriatic is hydrochloric, battery acid is (moderately diluted) sulfuric. > Neither dissolves rust, I don't think, but they do dissolve steel tanks. > This loosens rust and allows it to be more easily knocked off. I'd go > with Carl Custer's suggestion of phosphoric (or oxalic or citric) acid. > > For removing water, alcohol works ok, but acetone is better and > much faster. > > --garcia Acetone, as in fingernail polish remover. Garcia has the best info on this so far as I can see. But to keep it simple (though a little costly), get the Kreme Kit. Comes with solvent, acetone and kreme hardner to line the tank after you're done. Works great. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 17:20:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27904 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:20:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA12551 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:20:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA02176 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:20:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:20:47 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:20:44 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:19:19 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: gixer@XXXXXX, mrider@XXXXXX Cc: LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Hot grips are about 50 bucks from Dennis Kirk. Hey, they work on snomos . . . Joe From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 17:41:11 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28278 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:41:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-146-20.s20.tnt3.ann.erols.com (207-172-146-20.s20.tnt3.ann.erols.com [207.172.146.20]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07792 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:41:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811102241.RAA07792@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:51:22 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199811101759.MAA14688@smv05.globecomm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: **Dear Diary... The Arch Run** On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:56:15 -0800, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >reach the footpegs with her feet.. or the new heels? Is she using a cane to >stedy herself on the new Stilts? And Lee, how do you shift up if you can't >get your toes under the shifter.. oh, wait.. nevermind.. heel shifter... > >*grin* Running and jumping (she's short remember, don't have to worry about >attacks from above) You know, this is really too easy. But she brings it upon herself. When she looks for a new bike, all she is concerned with is seat height........ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 17:46:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28416 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:46:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA12926 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.rochester.rr.com (known mail2-0.twcny.rr.com [24.92.226.75]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04709 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:46:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from bierman ([24.93.23.95]) by mail2.rochester.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.2 release 221 ID# 0-53939U80000L80000S0V35) with SMTP id com; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:46:51 -0500 Message-ID: <012801be0cfb$d04a2fc0$5f175d18@bierman.rochester.rr.com> From: "sheri bierman" To: Cc: Subject: Re: New Helmet Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:45:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Thanks for the helmet suggestions everyone! I will forward on to "the tall one." Can't remember if it was a Shoei that she tried on a couple weeks back that seemed to fit... Garcia - we are still in NY until next summer :o( sheri ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ sheri bierman '94 Ninja 500 sbierman@XXXXXX sbierman@XXXXXX Come visit Broccoli Bikers Adventure Pages! http://members.xoom.com/ninja500 ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ -----Original Message----- From: O'Brien, Jeannette To: 'sheri bierman' ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 9:03 AM Subject: RE: New Helmet I'm not sure what model my old HJC was. Finally someone with a smaller head than me! I had a S HJC which was too big. I usually fit XS in most helmets but the Shoei I bought is a small. Has she tried Shoei yet? The suggestions for kids helmets might be a good idea, too. Good luck! - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: sheri bierman [SMTP:sbierman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 6:57 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: New Helmet > > Jeannette, > > What model HJC did you have before?? Also, did you try any other model > Shoei? My girlfriend is curious - she has gone through 3 helmets in a > year > and a half and can't seem to find one that fits her properly.. she has > a > really small head ;o) and currently has a HJC CL-11 size XXS. She > says it > lifts off her head a lot - definitely doesn't fit her correctly. > > thanks, > sheri > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ > sheri bierman > '94 Ninja 500 > sbierman@XXXXXX > sbierman@XXXXXX > Come visit Broccoli Bikers Adventure Pages! > http://members.xoom.com/ninja500 > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤ > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 17:49:01 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28430 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-146-20.s20.tnt3.ann.erols.com (207-172-146-20.s20.tnt3.ann.erols.com [207.172.146.20]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11751 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:48:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811102248.RAA11751@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC-Cycles List" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:59:13 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <45a2ac93.36488101@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Nature Stops On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:08:01 EST, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX wrote: >God only knows I love and respect nature... But I do have my limitations. >Only in EXTREME emergencies would I consider a non-flushing mechanism. By the look on your face (not to mention the yellow eyeballs), I thought that it was an EXTREME emergency. :) >In fact, I haven't encountered one yet. And since I'm too old to change now, >(don't touch this one Brian!) I'll just make sure that I don't have any >liquids 4 hours before riding. You're even older than me!!!!!! >You're going to have to wait to laugh at me on my bike Brian... Mine is in >hybernation for the winter. I assure you, my feet do touch the ground. OK, >maybe not flat, but I got the toes touching! Don't you mean touching toe, with the bike leaned over to the side???? None the less, I think it a shame that a bike would have to hibernate. I can here it sobbing right now. Mutter something about how you no longer love it, and have left it for another. I hear its poor heart breaking. How can you do that to it???? ) ; You're just too mean to the poor thing.... I have a better idea. Bring it over here and we'll let Kay learn how to ride on it...... :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 17:54:39 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA28562 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-146-20.s20.tnt3.ann.erols.com (207-172-146-20.s20.tnt3.ann.erols.com [207.172.146.20]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA15296 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:54:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811102254.RAA15296@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:04:51 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199811101831.NAA31953@radagast.wizard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: Sunday Ride On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:30:32 -0500, Anita Lauro wrote: >2. Experienced riders: Very familiar with the safe operation of their >motorcycles, and are comfortable riding in groups. On familiar >roads, can leave group one in the dust. I consider myself solidly in >this category, with 10K+ miles under my belt in the past year. >New riders consider me fast, fast riders wonder where the heck I >am (after leaving me in the dust). I am definitely a group 2 rider, and like Anita, it is by choice. If I wanted to be in the really fast group, I would have bought a sport bike. I like to comfortably cover the milage, with my wife on back, taking the time to see the scenery.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 18:19:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29029 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:18:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13366 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:18:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA06801 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:18:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:19:15 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:19:07 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:16:35 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: LungHD@XXXXXX, gixer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I second Collin's nomination of Olympia gloves. I've had my current pair for about 7 years, and really like the leather, the padding, the thinsulate and the big big velcro-adjustable gauntlet. They've been good for snowmobiling at 0 degrees F combined with heated grips, and up in the great white north they were an essential part of winter (October) riding. For those who really can't stand cold hands, do this: Electric grips, Oly winter gloves, plastic hand guards (from a dirt bike shop). Only thing that works better is those dorky-lookin Hippo Hands things. Joe Not putting the bike away for winter From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 18:34:17 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29432 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:34:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from ringding.cs.umd.edu (known ringding.cs.umd.edu [128.8.126.2]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA13580 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (known imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by ringding.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA14469 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:34:10 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WDUCa29185 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:31:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <798c5ee0.3648cce4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:31:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 I bought a set of Olympias as well. They are the "trailblazer" series. Kinda thick and a bit bulky but not bad. And they are warm warm warm. If the temps are over 40 my hands sweat in them. Only $30 for a set too and thats Colemans price. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 18:35:36 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29538 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:35:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-120-226.s226.tnt14.brd.erols.com [207.172.120.226]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08098 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:35:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <008701be0d0b$238b84e0$e278accf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: tools....needed... Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:35:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Subject: RE: tools....needed... I picked up some PVC pipe just a few minutes ago from HD.... $2.39 for a 1/2" by 10' piece, had them cut me a 3ft. section...so I got 7ft. left if anyone needs a bit of pipe....i can think of no other use for it right now...a couple of people looked at me rather funny though, while walking down the isles with a big piece of chrome on my shoulder....wanted to have a perfect fit.... thanxx for the suggestions Collin and Todd..I knew this email thingy would pay for itself...... Les Kat 750, Auburn fan..... Hey Les, You don't really need this 'special' tool, you can make your own for about $2. Get some PVC pipe that'll fit around the tubes, but not bigger than the sliders. Cut off about an 8" length and sand the driving end smooth. Almost instant seal driver. Hey, works for me. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 19:17:46 1998 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00999 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:17:45 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id IHRKa03998; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:15:54 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <6c226370.3648d73a@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:15:54 EST To: mike@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: What's this bike? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 11/10/98 3:20:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << With (translating from the Italian) light blue wings, yet! >> Actually it is singular "light blue wing". Ciao, Fred (Alfredo) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 19:19:04 1998 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01013 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:19:01 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id UJBRa19214; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:17:44 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <77813fee.3648d7a8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:17:44 EST To: l4rite@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: tools....needed... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 11/10/98 6:44:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, l4rite@XXXXXX writes: << I picked up some PVC pipe just a few minutes ago from HD.. >> Jeez, harley is into everything. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 19:22:44 1998 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA01136 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:22:31 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id RTUFa02538; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:11:05 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:11:05 EST To: brad.faas@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Sunday Ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 11/10/98 1:02:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, brad.faas@XXXXXX writes: << Then I ended up by chance riding back with Fred (another lister) from a day up at Summit Point. >> Brad, I was riding my Norton Commando that day, it couldn't have been that bad. LOL Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 21:33:53 1998 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA03128 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:33:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA03215 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:33:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364921D4.4C3C@mnsinc.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:34:12 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Team DC-Cycles Racing.....? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Gang, Brian McCoy muttered something about Team DC-Cycles Racing and this is the second time I've heard of it. Did that large banner so ostentatiously draped across Todd's couch during his party have anything to do with this also? Who are the participants? Just wondering, JK From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 23:11:22 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04766 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:11:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA27799; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:11:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364A12D7.CD156D5F@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:42:31 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "John C. Kozyn" CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Team DC-Cycles Racing.....? References: <364921D4.4C3C@mnsinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you been smoking some of that Haitian tobacco again lately, John?? :) Jut kiddin... Check out http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/track/9350/ It's still under a bit of construction, and yes, I know the intro pic is brutally large (I'll fix it one of these days)...but there's some good stuf there, and some cool pics... Collin John C. Kozyn wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > Brian McCoy muttered something about Team DC-Cycles Racing and this is > the second time I've heard of it. Did that large banner so > ostentatiously draped across Todd's couch during his party have anything > to do with this also? > > Who are the participants? > > Just wondering, > > JK From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 23:15:10 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA04889 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA29584; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:15:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364A13CA.71D5CA06@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:46:34 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Leslie N. Forewright" CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: tools....needed... References: <008701be0d0b$238b84e0$e278accf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit he he he... like to do things the hard way, eh? My personal method was just to take one of my seals in with me and match up the proper diameter PVC...doesn't weigh as much either (for us anti-excercise types).. Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > while walking > down the isles with a big piece of chrome on my shoulder....wanted to have a > perfect fit.... -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 23:33:35 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from vulture.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA05163 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from iguana ([207.172.44.163]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 360 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:32:59 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19981111112829.00b1a100@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:31:30 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: HOA Trouble Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I live in Centreville, VA with the Newgate HOA. They have decided that we cant park our bikes more than one to a space, perpindicular to our cars, or on the line between the two assigned spots. I own this damn house and the two measly spots that come with it. Besides writing a letter to the HOA, and offering to run a petition to change the covenants, anyone else out there have any advice? I park mine between the two spots, so it doesnt impose on my neighbors, just my roommate. Pisses me off..... _____________________________________=A0=A0=A0=20 =A0 Mike Troutman =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 mike@XXXXXX =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 http://www.troutman.org =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 10 23:48:53 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA05398 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:48:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA10679; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:45:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:37:51 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: What's this bike? To: Ray cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19981110200623.19399.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > Nope, Allazzurra was a twin-shock 650 Pantah-engined Duck. Hey,it's been like 10 years. I really liked the old Elephants.Saw one in a trip report in the AMA magazine.A DP bike with a V-twin motor,pretty cool(the old ones didn't have the P/D fairings). > Not really > a rebadged Ducati in that Cagiva was the parent company; it's more > like two pickups coming off the assembly line and one being a Chevy > and the next being a GMC. Not too many made it to these shores,did they?I've never seen a review in any of the moto mags. > There's one in my basement if you want to > see one in the flesh (or in the feather, being a Duck) Just bring it to the next ride.Learning experience for us all. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 00:01:39 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05646 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA17621 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:01:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA04900 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:01:32 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id KRKSa13873; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:00:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4faad2b4.364919e7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:00:23 EST To: zellto@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Old motors and Pulleys... was Re: Reality Check Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 I have an old '79 Toyota inline 4 from a car I no longer own. Actually, I think all it needs is a new head gasket (which I have) to run good again. Problem is I don't have a place to work on it nor a vehicle to move it. Interested? Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 00:14:37 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA05864 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:14:35 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA10985; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:11:01 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:07:43 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: 2Up Riding was--->RE: Arch Run survivors...RE: ERC survivors? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, SCOTT Rush wrote: > You mean you go 2up riding on the Maxim? Bald tires, bad > suspension and all!!!! You're a brave man. :-) You should've seen what the front tire looked like on his Gixer that time he showed us the NoVa 'track'.Collin's guardian angel must have grey hair by now. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 00:23:09 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06000 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:23:04 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA11015; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:19:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:12:55 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Reality Check To: Tom Zell cc: dc-cycles In-Reply-To: <005001be0ccb$fb34f9c0$5bd845cf@tomspc.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Tom Zell wrote: > The plumbing is the easy part... it's figuring out how to drive the sucker > that's got me at the moment. Gonna shoot for around 5 pounds of boost... > should be a cool ride when I'm done! Try nosing around the VMax sites.I've seen a couple blown Max's(Egli had one in _CW_) and there's a company that makes a blower setup for the Max and V-Star.They run V4's too,so you should be able to get some ideas. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 00:40:43 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06219 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:40:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA11068; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:35:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:29:03 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Supercharging was--->RE: Reality Check To: Tom Zell cc: dc-cycles In-Reply-To: <002f01be0cd1$51edf500$f61056d1@tomspc.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Tom Zell wrote: > I'm getting > away with it for probably less $300 due to the fact that I'm going to use a > smog pump... YES... a smog pump to produce the boost. Don't laugh folks... > these things can produce enough boost pressure to completely grenade a small > engine(such as a m/c's) if you're not careful. I can get a rebuilt pump for > around $50. Ah,a smog pump.There's a guy on the web who posted a tech report about using smog pumps to supercharge motors.I think I downloaded it.I'll look around and see if I can find the doc or url. You know,I always thought it would've been a cool idea to put one of these on the Buell.I prolly could've hid most of the stuff behind the breadbox and turned it into a sleeper. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 00:54:48 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA06433 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:54:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA11120; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:51:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:46:26 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: wheee.. :) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199811102023.PAA25409@meretrix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > Fun.. but a reminder that cold road and cold tires can equal sudden loss of > traction.. Everyone ride safe out there (right now esp. with the slight > precip I'm seeing out the window) Another reminder to everyone;check your six.While walking to work this afternoon I saw a minivan(w/out ABS) almost climb into the back of a hatchback.Hatchback driver hit his brakes to make a turn he almost missed, and the minivan slid about 2 car lengths(he was following too close).In conditions of reduced traction,what's in your mirrors _does_ still matter. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 06:10:23 1998 Return-Path: sdave@XXXXXX Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA12602 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:10:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from radix.net (dhcp165112138036.cit.nih.gov [165.112.138.36]) by helix.nih.gov (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA22437 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:10:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3649708E.97195519@radix.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:10:06 -0500 From: Dave Yates X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: HOA Trouble References: <4.1.19981111112829.00b1a100@www.troutman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 5 Years ago, when I first got my ZX11, I was parking the bike right against the curb, in front of MY Mustang. One day, someone said something to the HOA president ( Potomac Mews, Indian Head, MD ). He spoke to me - only a discussion about it, not 'move it or else' & he sided with me given our parking shortage. It didn't hurt that I had served on our covenants commitee & wrote most of the parking rules either. Bottom line : go to the hoa or Covenants commitee & explain the situation. Inform them that you will begin parking your cage in a visitor spot ( as is more than likely your RIGHT as a homeowner ) & will park your bike in your regular spot until they make a decision. if the Parking is handled by a covenants commitee, then you will be entitled to an appeal to the HOA within a certain time period. One more thing, I got a copy ( I wrote them ) of the parking bylaws, & if there is nothing EXPLICITLY prohibiting what you are doing, they can't legally enforce it. Good Luck Dave Yates '90 ZX 11 Michael Troutman wrote: > I live in Centreville, VA with the Newgate HOA. They have decided that we > cant park our bikes more than one to a space, perpindicular to our cars, or > on the line between the two assigned spots. I own this damn house and the > two measly spots that come with it. Besides writing a letter to the HOA, > and offering to run a petition to change the covenants, anyone else out > there have any advice? > > I park mine between the two spots, so it doesnt impose on my neighbors, > just my roommate. > > Pisses me off..... > > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 06:12:48 1998 Return-Path: brad.faas@XXXXXX Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (viper.bcbsblue.com [208.146.143.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA12684 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (root@localhost) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id GAA19621 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:13:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com ([199.97.109.162]) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id GAA19612 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:13:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com (root@localhost) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with ESMTP id GAA01630 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from NCAIMAIL1 ([192.168.79.211]) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with SMTP id GAA01622 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:13:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811111113.GAA01622@nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com> Priority: urgent Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:10:00 -0500 From: "FAAS, BRAD" Subject: RE: Sunday Ride To: Boiade Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Yep, making it that much more of a humbling experience. :-) It would be an understament to say I got a little surprise following you into the first corner on that back road. I'm thinking, "Huh, old bike, reserved rider, etc. I can keep up, no problem", and then *wham* we're in a tight 15 mph leaned waaaaay over with oncoming traffic in the other lane... yes, quite the experience. Of course, I'm sure you didn't notice -- you probably leave your driveway like that... ;-) BTW, how's the repair on the "Blue Streak" coming? Did Mr. Nice-New-Red-Suzuki ever cough it up? --Brad -----Original Message----- From: Boiade [mailto:Boiade@XXXXXX] Brad, I was riding my Norton Commando that day, it couldn't have been that bad. LOL Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 06:21:28 1998 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA12808 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:21:26 -0500 (EST) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id RPYOa04134; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:20:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <406a0d69.364972e3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:20:03 EST To: brad.faas@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Sunday Ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 In a message dated 11/11/98 6:12:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, brad.faas@XXXXXX writes: << BTW, how's the repair on the "Blue Streak" coming? Did Mr. Nice-New-Red-Suzuki ever cough it up? >> Still talking to the insurance company but I really haven't had the time to work on it as i have been on travel most of the time. But the bike is rideable with the replacement of the footpeg support alone. I took it on a spirited ride with some of the west side listers and it ran fine. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 08:52:26 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA15007 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:52:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811111352.IAA15007@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 05:52:06 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: wheee.. :) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 05:46:22 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > -----Original Message----- > > Another reminder to everyone;check your six.While walking > to work this > afternoon I saw a minivan(w/out ABS) almost climb into the back of a > hatchback.Hatchback driver hit his brakes to make a turn he > almost missed, > and the minivan slid about 2 car lengths(he was following too > close).In > conditions of reduced traction,what's in your mirrors _does_ > still matter. Rodger, copy, and ditto that... had the same minivan try to mow me over at a stoplight lastnight in Glen Burnie.. thankfully I was in gear and at the front of the line.. we stopped traffic, but noone was hurt... Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 09:49:11 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA15899 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:49:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23448 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:49:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA13796 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:49:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA05975; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:47:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981111144756.EUFO649@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:47:56 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "JOE NAGY" , , Cc: , Subject: RE: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:45:44 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be0d81$f69bcae0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal There's another type of heater made by Kimpex. It's a kit that comes with two thin filiments of wiring set in mylar. You remove your grips, stick the assembly to the handlebar via self adhesive backing, and put your grip back on. Comes with hi'lo'off switch. I've never used them but have heard very good reviews from the ST1100 list. I believe they were also reviewed favorably by Motorcycle Consumer News. Around $25, but don't ask me where to get them. Can't find the info from my files. Todd > > Hot grips are about 50 bucks from Dennis Kirk. Hey, they work on snomos > . . . > > Joe > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 10:21:32 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16501 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:21:27 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA07400; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:23:09 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma006969; Wed, 11 Nov 98 10:22:04 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F2900EVRJYTOA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:21:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B9.0053F147 ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:16:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:25:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Nature Stops To: DC-Cycles List Message-id: <852566B9.004F3E55.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Marvin Heilesen wrote: > I hear its poor heart breaking. That's okay. The Dennis Kirk catalog has replacements for $39.95 when Spring comes. ;^) Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 10:31:30 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16658 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:31:27 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6UAHa13873; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:30:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3d2c3131.3649ad80@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:30:08 EST To: mike@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: HOA Trouble Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 If your in the AMA, or probably even if your not, you might want to contact them and see if there is a precedent in law for the HOA rules you're facing. They help people with this stuff all the time I believe. If your not in the AMA it's probably a good idea to join . . . Jonathan In a message dated 11/10/98 11:37:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > I live in Centreville, VA with the Newgate HOA. They have decided that we > cant park our bikes more than one to a space, perpindicular to our cars, or > on the line between the two assigned spots. I own this damn house and the > two measly spots that come with it. Besides writing a letter to the HOA, > and offering to run a petition to change the covenants, anyone else out > there have any advice? > > I park mine between the two spots, so it doesnt impose on my neighbors, > just my roommate. > > Pisses me off..... From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 10:32:15 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16668 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:32:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981111153354.1197.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.41.155] by send201.yahoomail.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:33:54 PST Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:33:54 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: What's this bike? To: "Gil M. Nissley" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've heard estimates that between 250 and 750 (combined Allazura and 650SS) made it to North America, nothing I could believe or disbelieve. The Allazura is the Rodney Dangerfield of Ducatis. Motorcyclist did a review of both bikes, I looked for it after I got the email but couldn't find it. ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > Nope, Allazzurra was a twin-shock 650 Pantah-engined Duck. > > Hey,it's been like 10 years. > > I really liked the old Elephants.Saw one in a trip report in the AMA > magazine.A DP bike with a V-twin motor,pretty cool(the old ones didn't > have the P/D fairings). > > > Not really > > a rebadged Ducati in that Cagiva was the parent company; it's more > > like two pickups coming off the assembly line and one being a Chevy > > and the next being a GMC. > > Not too many made it to these shores,did they?I've never seen a > review in any of the moto mags. > > > There's one in my basement if you want to > > see one in the flesh (or in the feather, being a Duck) > > Just bring it to the next ride.Learning experience for us all. > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 10:43:22 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA16852 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:43:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981111154359.5287.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.41.155] by send205.yahoomail.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:43:59 PST Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:43:59 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: gas tank cleanup To: Todd Peer , Garcia Oliver , MARKSOMM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To remove the water blow dry with an airhose, then use the kreme kit following the directions carefully. Not many years ago in Motorcycle Consumer News (I think) there was a "Kreme killed my tank" letter followed by a bunch of "me toos"; turned out that they did not follow directions. Ray ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > > > > Muriatic is hydrochloric, battery acid is (moderately diluted) sulfuric. > > Neither dissolves rust, I don't think, but they do dissolve steel tanks. > > This loosens rust and allows it to be more easily knocked off. I'd go > > with Carl Custer's suggestion of phosphoric (or oxalic or citric) acid. > > > > For removing water, alcohol works ok, but acetone is better and > > much faster. > > > > --garcia > > Acetone, as in fingernail polish remover. Garcia has the best info on this > so far as I can see. But to keep it simple (though a little costly), get > the Kreme Kit. Comes with solvent, acetone and kreme hardner to line the > tank after you're done. Works great. > > Todd > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 10:47:50 1998 Return-Path: wes@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16923 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA07698 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:49:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981111104536.00aa0270@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:48:17 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: wes Subject: Re: HOA Trouble In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981111112829.00b1a100@www.troutman.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" the *bastards*. go get 'em mike. i hate it when these self-appointed, self-righteous punks try to impose their standards on us. any us. all us's, for that matter. it's your place, your space, you should be able to do with it as you please, right? --w >I live in Centreville, VA with the Newgate HOA. They have decided that we >cant park our bikes more than one to a space, perpindicular to our cars, or >on the line between the two assigned spots. I own this damn house and the >two measly spots that come with it. Besides writing a letter to the HOA, >and offering to run a petition to change the covenants, anyone else out >there have any advice? > >I park mine between the two spots, so it doesnt impose on my neighbors, >just my roommate. > >Pisses me off..... > >_____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 > http://shadow.newspeak.org/ wes@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB750 "Extra Sled" its software is hardware, its heartbeat is time-share its midwife's a disk drive, its sex life is quantised it's self-perpetuating and parahumanoidarianised -- queen, "machines" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 10:48:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA16945 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:48:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA24309 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:48:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA16027 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:48:52 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:48:50 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:47:02 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: gixer@XXXXXX, mrider@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Cc: LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Kirk sells those things too, in their dirt bike/ATV catalog. Though I'd order a new set of grips too, unless you've got a magical way of removing the old ones that'll take less than ten bucks worth of your time. I just take a knife to mine. Joe >>> "Todd Peer" - 11/11/98 9:45 AM >>> There's another type of heater made by Kimpex. It's a kit that comes with two thin filiments of wiring set in mylar. You remove your grips, stick the assembly to the handlebar via self adhesive backing, and put your grip back on. Comes with hi'lo'off switch. I've never used them but have heard very good reviews from the ST1100 list. I believe they were also reviewed favorably by Motorcycle Consumer News. Around $25, but don't ask me where to get them. Can't find the info from my files. Todd > > Hot grips are about 50 bucks from Dennis Kirk. Hey, they work on snomos > . . . > > Joe > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 11:05:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17191 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24667 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:04:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA16951 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:04:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTSMVZXY; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:04:38 EST To: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Music - rap Message-ID: <19981110.074222.5271.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <852566B8.00598376.00@goliath.intelsol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4-6 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:04:38 EST On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:47:40 -0500 Steve_Beck@XXXXXX writes: > I live for the day when I can piss on raps grave. So, what are you trying to say, exactly? C'mon...don't sugarcoat it. Tell us how you really feel... ;-) JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 11:05:19 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA17261 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:05:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981111160654.20237.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.41.155] by send201.yahoomail.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:06:54 PST Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:06:54 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: wheee.. :) To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I got even for you. I almost took out a minivan with my Ford (it doesn't have a license number, it has a Zip Code) yesterday. The fool tried to block me from passing her even though I wasn't in her way. It's amazing that most drivers in Maryland won't show any courtesy yet will go out of thier way to be block you passing, changing lanes, etc. ---"McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Another reminder to everyone;check your six.While walking > > to work this > > afternoon I saw a minivan(w/out ABS) almost climb into the back of a > > hatchback.Hatchback driver hit his brakes to make a turn he > > almost missed, > > and the minivan slid about 2 car lengths(he was following too > > close).In > > conditions of reduced traction,what's in your mirrors _does_ > > still matter. > > > Rodger, copy, and ditto that... had the same minivan try to mow me over at a > stoplight lastnight in Glen Burnie.. thankfully I was in gear and at the > front of the line.. we stopped traffic, but noone was hurt... > > Brian > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 11:07:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17293 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:07:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24711 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (known send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17028 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:07:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981111160912.443.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.15.41.155] by send204.yahoomail.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:09:12 PST Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:09:12 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply To: Todd Peer , JOE NAGY , gixer@XXXXXX, mrider@XXXXXX Cc: LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have the info and if anyone wants to know where to get them reply off-list. They require you to do some of your own wiring and install an inline fuse & holder (not included). Ray ---Todd Peer wrote: > > There's another type of heater made by Kimpex. It's a kit that comes with > two thin filiments of wiring set in mylar. You remove your grips, stick the > assembly to the handlebar via self adhesive backing, and put your grip back > on. Comes with hi'lo'off switch. I've never used them but have heard very > good reviews from the ST1100 list. I believe they were also reviewed > favorably by Motorcycle Consumer News. Around $25, but don't ask me where > to get them. Can't find the info from my files. > > Todd > > > > Hot grips are about 50 bucks from Dennis Kirk. Hey, they work on snomos > > . . . > > > > Joe > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 11:11:12 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17350 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:11:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA24779 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:11:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (known [198.81.17.69] [198.81.17.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17173 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:11:04 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WCDNa03875 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:10:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <84e437ec.3649b6f6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:10:30 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Music - rap Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/11/98 11:09:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, bike.dealer@XXXXXX writes: << I live for the day when I can piss on raps grave. So, what are you trying to say, exactly? C'mon...don't sugarcoat it. Tell us how you really feel... ;-) >> Dont worry, rap will be around longer than either one of you! Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 11:26:12 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA17655 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:26:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25048 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:26:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known [198.81.17.6] [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA17783 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:26:06 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6Ya0007908; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:25:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <934994a9.3649ba5c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:25:00 EST To: tl1000s@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TLR PC maps Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Does anyone out there know of anyone or any websites that have DJPC maps that you can download? I have it on my bike, and like most people without a dyno, I am looking for some help to get me started. Thanks for the help... Sean... From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 11:43:14 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA18093 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:43:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA25308 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:43:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (known [198.81.17.7] [198.81.17.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA18529 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:43:08 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WYMTa04133 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:41:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1d88d34f.3649be29@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:41:13 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: wheee.. :) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Hey now, let's not start the "Maryland drivers" thread again. Having driven thru numerous states, I've seen lots of idiots nearly every state (including VA ;p ). I agree with the heads-up though. Tis the season when all the mommy- vans will be out for Christmas Shopping. Ride safe! BTW, why is it VA drivers find it necessary to completely stop before making a turn? Robert "Maybe quiet little Frederick ain't soo bad afterall" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 12:01:17 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18425 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:01:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA25647 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:01:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known [198.81.17.3] [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19489 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:01:10 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WANFa13873 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:57:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <798ed1af.3649c1ed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:57:17 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Wheeee... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 In a message dated 11/11/98 11:48:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, NJitzul@XXXXXX writes: << Hey now, let's not start the "Maryland drivers" thread again. Having driven thru numerous states, I've seen lots of idiots nearly every state (including VA ;p ). I agree with the heads-up though. Tis the season when all the mommy- vans will be out for Christmas Shopping. Ride safe! BTW, why is it VA drivers find it necessary to completely stop before making a turn? >> I've driven through every state in the U.S., and believe me, no where are drivers more incompetent than in Delaware. Not only are rules made as they roll along looking at the sites, they have no regard for pedestrians or livestock in the roadways, let alone another car... Yes, DE, my friends, is a place in which to drive a tank and still fear for your life. Lee From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 12:02:41 1998 Return-Path: DBurger152@XXXXXX Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18447 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:02:39 -0500 (EST) From: DBurger152@XXXXXX Received: from DBurger152@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3YYBa03875 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:00:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2ebc95e2.3649c2cb@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:00:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Its Totaled (An F3 bites the dust) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 52 I just got back from Coleman's and meeting with a State Farm claims adjuster. To make a long story short the bike is totaled. After I showed him all the stuff that was missed on the first estimate his comment was: "So basically we need to replace everything on the outside of the bike." His second comment was: "I hope you don't mind if its totaled, because we might be able to fix it for less than the book value if there is no damage under the plastic, but we don't want to take that risk." So now I wait to see what the book value is for a 96 F3 and then what the salvage value will be. If the salvage price is low enough I will most likely buy it back, fix the controls and ignition (less than $300) and ride it ugly. Don B. stolen, recovered, totaled, F3 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 12:24:52 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA18861 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26087 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:24:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20398 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:26:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:25:39 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Wheeee... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline My sister was in Peurto Rico a couple years ago and said that the roads = were there only to give people the general direction to head. Other than = that, they drive wherever they want and how fast they want. She was = scared to death. :-) Ride Safe Scooter (43 more shopping days 'til Christmas) >>> 11/11/98 11:57AM >>> In a message dated 11/11/98 11:48:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, NJitzul@aol.= com=20 writes: << Hey now, let's not start the "Maryland drivers" thread again. Having = driven thru numerous states, I've seen lots of idiots nearly every state = (including VA ;p ). I agree with the heads-up though. Tis the season when all the = mommy- vans will be out for Christmas Shopping. Ride safe! BTW, why is it VA = drivers find it necessary to completely stop before making a turn? >> I've driven through every state in the U.S., and believe me, no where are drivers more incompetent than in Delaware. Not only are rules made as = they roll along looking at the sites, they have no regard for pedestrians or livestock in the roadways, let alone another car... Yes, DE, my friends, = is a place in which to drive a tank and still fear for your life. =20 Lee From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 12:26:15 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA18876 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:26:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:27:41 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:27:09 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: DBurger152@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Its Totaled (An F3 bites the dust) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Congratulations. I knew you could get it totaled. :-) Scooter >>> 11/11/98 12:00PM >>> I just got back from Coleman's and meeting with a State Farm claims = adjuster. To make a long story short the bike is totaled. =20 Don B. stolen, recovered, totaled, F3 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 12:40:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA19242 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA26346 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA21181 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:40:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-36-242.s242.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.242]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22346; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:40:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3649CEC9.CB9F561C@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:52:09 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: TLR PC maps References: <934994a9.3649ba5c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean, If you've got a free saturday and 50 bucks, head down to Fast Lane Cycles in Chantilly. Rick has a dyno and lots of experience with it and the power commanders. It's $25/run just to see what you are putting out, or the better deal is $50/hour for as many runs as you need along with tuning. You can ask Jack, but I'm betting he had his TL all tuned up in less than one hour... Tell him Collin Fagan sent you. Their shop number is: (703) 818-8890 CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX wrote: > > Does anyone out there know of anyone or any websites that have DJPC maps that > you can download? I have it on my bike, and like most people without a dyno, > I am looking for some help to get me started. > > Thanks for the help... > > Sean... -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 13:32:31 1998 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20199 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from viking.cris.com (viking [206.173.119.81]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/08/04 5.11)) id NAA26213; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:32:11 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from localhost by viking.cris.com (8.8.5) id NAA15753; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:32:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:32:09 -0500 (EST) From: TURNIP To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply In-Reply-To: <000201be0d81$f69bcae0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I ordered a set of Kimpex grip heaters thru Loudon Powersports in Leesburg. I haven't gotten them yet but when I do I'll give everyone an update on how the work and any installation bugaboos. Hugh A. Caldwell On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Todd Peer wrote: > There's another type of heater made by Kimpex. It's a kit that comes with > two thin filiments of wiring set in mylar. You remove your grips, stick the > assembly to the handlebar via self adhesive backing, and put your grip back > on. Comes with hi'lo'off switch. I've never used them but have heard very > good reviews from the ST1100 list. I believe they were also reviewed > favorably by Motorcycle Consumer News. Around $25, but don't ask me where > to get them. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 13:38:59 1998 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.184.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20325 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:38:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from viking.cris.com (viking [206.173.119.81]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/08/04 5.11)) id NAA27472; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:38:55 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from localhost by viking.cris.com (8.8.5) id NAA15957; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:38:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:38:54 -0500 (EST) From: TURNIP To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply -Reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you take the bars off the bike you can just soak the grip in hot water and it should slide off quite easily. Hugh A. Caldwell On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, JOE NAGY wrote: > Kirk sells those things too, in their dirt bike/ATV catalog. Though I'd > order a new set of grips too, unless you've got a magical way of > removing the old ones that'll take less than ten bucks worth of your > time. I just take a knife to mine. > > Joe > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 13:52:28 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20649 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27451 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:52:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA25300 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA24487; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:50:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981111185059.HWYT649@XXXXXX>; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:50:59 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "JOE NAGY" , , Cc: , Subject: RE: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply -Reply Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:48:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000901be0da3$ea2869e0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Actually.....I do. Using a small screw driver, or awl, wedge between grip and bar. Push the nozzle/tube you fit to a can of Wd40 up in there and give it a blast. Pull it and the screw driver out and twist the grip. Comes loose and is easy to yank off. Now, how do you get it back on? Clean everything up and put just a little bit of Wd40 on the end of the bar, and in the end of the grip that goes on first. Give it a good push. I've only had one instance where the grip got loose, but for the most part it'll stay. Todd > > > Kirk sells those things too, in their dirt bike/ATV catalog. Though I'd > order a new set of grips too, unless you've got a magical way of > removing the old ones that'll take less than ten bucks worth of your > time. I just take a knife to mine. > > Joe > > >>> "Todd Peer" - 11/11/98 9:45 AM >>> > There's another type of heater made by Kimpex. It's a kit that comes > with > two thin filiments of wiring set in mylar. You remove your grips, stick > the > assembly to the handlebar via self adhesive backing, and put your grip > back > on. Comes with hi'lo'off switch. I've never used them but have heard > very > good reviews from the ST1100 list. I believe they were also reviewed > favorably by Motorcycle Consumer News. Around $25, but don't ask me > where > to get them. Can't find the info from my files. > > Todd > > > > Hot grips are about 50 bucks from Dennis Kirk. Hey, they work on > snomos > > . . . > > > > Joe > > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 13:58:26 1998 Return-Path: hdknight@XXXXXX Received: from bc.mountain.net (root@XXXXXX [198.77.1.35]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA20788 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:58:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer (AM4-26.Martinsburg-WV.Mountain.Net [198.77.15.175]) by bc.mountain.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA23156 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:58:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000701be0da5$0be3dc80$af0f4dc6@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Whats the new address for Twigg Cycles? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:56:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0D7B.21164A40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0D7B.21164A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think, but am not sure that they are off Rt 40, I was at their new = place once, but can not for the life of me remember how I got there. = The phonebooks still have their old Cannon Ave address. Anybody have = the exit number off 70 I believe. thanx in advance. HDKnight Ken 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0D7B.21164A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think, but am not sure that they = are off Rt=20 40, I was at their new place once, but can not for the life of me = remember how I=20 got there.  The phonebooks still have their old Cannon Ave = address. =20 Anybody have the exit number off 70 I believe.  thanx in=20 advance.
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE0D7B.21164A40-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 14:23:49 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA21238 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:23:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA28123 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:23:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA27005 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:23:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:24:08 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:24:08 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:22:44 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: wheee.. :) -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Maybe for the same reason they remain at a complete stop for at least 5 seconds after the light turns green. I think somehow some three-toed sloth blood got mixed in down here. Joe near Richmond -snip- BTW, why is it VA drivers find it necessary to completely stop before making a turn? Robert "Maybe quiet little Frederick ain't soo bad afterall" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 14:30:31 1998 Return-Path: kjareaux@XXXXXX Received: from dcnteml01.dlalaw.com (d65107.dlalaw.com [207.32.65.107]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA21419 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlalaw.com (mail.dlalaw.com [207.32.65.10]) by dcnteml01.dlalaw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2232.9) id WSJR4WGS; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:29:27 -0500 Received: from DLADC01-Message_Server by dlalaw.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:33:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:30:42 -0500 From: Kelli Jareaux To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Two Bikes For Sale 1996 Honda Magna Deluxe plus matching helmet, and bag, Red and Black, 5k miles, Garage kept, $6,100 obo. Call Mike (301) 627-9742. 1996 HD 883 Sportster Deluxe, Green, plenty of extras, 4.5k miles, Garage kept, $7,500 obo. Call (301)627-0904. Please post this on other lists where you think it would be appropriate. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 14:53:21 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA21842 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:53:37 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:53:37 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:52:13 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gloves was Re: I hate rap -Reply -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline That's a cool idea, though it probably violates my ten-dollar's time rule. Plus, I always glue mine on, due to a mishap on an MX track many moons ago. There's nothing quite like having a grip come off in the middle of the whoops! =:-O Joe >>> TURNIP - 11/11/98 1:38 PM >>> If you take the bars off the bike you can just soak the grip in hot water and it should slide off quite easily. Hugh A. Caldwell On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, JOE NAGY wrote: > Kirk sells those things too, in their dirt bike/ATV catalog. Though I'd > order a new set of grips too, unless you've got a magical way of > removing the old ones that'll take less than ten bucks worth of your > time. I just take a knife to mine. > > Joe > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 15:09:53 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA22112 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:09:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:10:27 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:10:17 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:08:53 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Two Bikes For Sale -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Who are these people who slap a little windshield, a "live to ride" sissy bar and a pair of o-ring highway pegs on an 883 and decide it's worth seven grand? I know I'm partially responsible, but damn I can't wait for this Harley crap to die down. Then maybe I can get one for three grand to abuse on the track. Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 15:42:34 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA22835 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:42:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTS5RTSY; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:41:58 EST To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I hate rap -Reply -Reply -Reply Message-ID: <19981110.120911.5271.3.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-3,12-14 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:41:58 EST On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:52:13 -0500 JOE NAGY writes: >There's nothing quite like having a grip come off in the middle of the whoops! =:-O I once had an old Sportster, on which I was turning into my gravel driveway when the left handgrip slipped off. As a result, the bars jerked toward the right when my left hand was taken out of the loop. I attempted to straighten the bars one-handed and in the process managed inadverently to apply significant throttle. The rear wheel broke WAY loose in the gravel and down we went with a roar, a crunch, and a shower of stones. Then (to add injury to insult) I burned my leg on the exhaust pipe as I went to pick it up because I was wearing shorts. Like the saying goes: To Be Old and Wise, You Must First Be Young and Stupid... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 16:18:32 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA23541 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:18:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id NAA09841 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:17:27 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:17:27 -0800 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Two Bikes For Sale -Reply Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:18:20 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Who are these people who slap a little windshield, a "live to ride" > sissy bar and a pair of o-ring highway pegs on an 883 and decide it's > worth seven grand? I know I'm partially responsible, but damn I can't > wait for this Harley crap to die down. Then maybe I can get one for > three grand to abuse on the track. Amen, brother... This is what I want a sportster for: http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcbeware/newpix/fast1.html Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 16:29:23 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA23791 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:29:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11379; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:29:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981111162324.00aaddd0@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:29:35 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, roadhouse@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: a brother down (he's OK, though) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gang(s)-- A guy from one of my other lists (CB750) posted an accident report today -- first day out of bed since 15 October. He was going about 50 mph and was hit by a driver making a u-turn. Parts of the post piqued my interest, and I thought I'd share a bit of his message with you folks. I am *not* trying to start another helmet-wearing thread or a dangers-of-neck-injury thread, so please, resist the urge. I'm just passing on what a downed brother had to say... --wes <------forwarded message starts------> This happened 10-15-98. This is the first time I've been out of bed. I have a broken collar bone and some nerve damage in my leg, joint pain, a few small sections of skin missing, and a lot of sore mussles, but all my limbs are still attached. I only spent 1 day in the hospital. Hopefully I will make a full recovery, just may take some time. Unfortunately... right now I'm in lots of pain. I'm glad I had kevlar lined racing gloves, a heavy leather jacket and my shoei rf-700 helmet. My head hit the pavement really hard and the helmet really did it's job. My jeans did get a few holes in them. Boy, I never realized that denum did such a poor job protecting. Luckily I stopped rolling down the road soon after the jeans wore through so very little road rash. My harley friends always told me that helmets were worthless due to the fact that the test them at 15mph and when do you go that slow. I was going 50mph and hit the ground.. now I wasn't traveling down at 50mph it was a glancing blow, but I thank the lord for helmets that are as good as they are today. If I was wearing one of those brain buckets, I think I would still be in the hospital right now. Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB-750 "Extra Sled" I've never been to good with names But I remember faces... From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 16:39:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24031 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA00356 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA02473 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:39:40 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WFJWa03081 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:37:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <30eef525.364a03b7@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:37:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: a brother down (he's OK, though) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/11/98 4:36:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, sled@XXXXXX writes: << If I was wearing one of those brain buckets, I think I would still be in the hospital right now. >> Or in a hole in the ground. Wear them helmets guys. Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 16:44:20 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA24148 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:45:37 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:45:14 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Two Bikes For Sale -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline >>>> "Jordan, Michael" 11/11/98 04:18PM >>> >> Who are these people who slap a little windshield, a "live to ride" >> sissy bar and a pair of o-ring highway pegs on an 883 and decide it's >> worth seven grand? I know I'm partially responsible, but damn I can't >> wait for this Harley crap to die down. Then maybe I can get one for >> three grand to abuse on the track. >=20 >Amen, brother... > >This is what I want a sportster for: >http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcbeware/newpix/fast1.html=20 > >Michael J. Nice. Very nice. :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 16:49:29 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24238 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:49:28 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3CQDa02539 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:47:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:47:16 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Two Bikes/Nagy Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Joe, Are you irritated with guys who advertise to sell their HD's at high prices or with the guys who want them bad enough to pay those high prices? I can't find fault with either if the market's there. Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 16:50:48 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA24322 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:50:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA05546 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:50:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199811112150.QAA05546@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:50:01 -0500 Subject: Soon to be electrified! :-) Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Well, I just broke down and ordered myself a Widder electric vest and gloves. After that chilly run up to Baltimore this past weekend, I'm know I'm going to be just loving life once I get all hooked up! Anyhow, how much do I have to worry about draining the battery if I'm riding around town? The Widder website says that the vests and gloves together will draw 53 watts. How long does it take to charge up a battery, anyhow? Twigg put in a new battery when I picked up the bike in June, and so far it's been very reliable. BTW, I did feel some benefit from the big engine on my bike (vs. my CB750)... when I was stopped at traffic lights the warmth was quite noticeable. At 70+ mph it did no good, of course! Thanks! Anita PS - Putting Murphy's Law into practice... now that I'm laying out some bucks for electrics and a taller windscreen, we're going to have a very mild winter! :-) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:02:48 1998 Return-Path: hgg@XXXXXX Received: from dewdrop2.mindspring.com (dewdrop2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.82]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24539 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:02:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hgg (user-38lc4dl.dialup.mindspring.com [209.86.17.181]) by dewdrop2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA05138; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:02:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981111170343.007f0e90@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:03:43 -0500 To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <199811112150.QAA05546@radagast.wizard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:50 PM 11/11/98 -0500, Anita Lauro wrote: >Anyhow, how much do I have to worry about draining the battery if >I'm riding around town? Anita, Congrats on the new electrics. You will love them. I routinely run two Widder vests (mine and passenger's) plus heated grips and haven't had any battery trouble even with short trips. I am pretty good about hooking up the Battery Tender if I know I won't be riding for a few days, though. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:04:33 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24559 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00695 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.his.com (known mail.his.com [205.177.25.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA03190 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:04:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from harris.his.com (harris.his.com [205.252.80.17]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA22058 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:04:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981111170303.008c0ce0@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:03:03 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Opinions wanted on weld/solder material In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:22 AM 11/10/98 EST, NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: >Though I'm a novice in aircraft welding, I am skeptical of this product. >degrees F is still pretty darn hot!! What is it that you need welded? My >school will let me do SOME welding/brazing, but I'd recommend a I saw a info-mertial about this stuff one night in a hotel on work travel. (their cable selection was limited, honest) Anywho the stuff, as advertised, seemed great. I done a lone of welding on motorcycle frames and the such, but all mild steel, which basically you have to be an idiot to screw up. This stuff seems like an excellent idea if it worked. I normally test my welds, would be simple to take a piece of AL stock, measure its yeild point, then test a section welded with the stuff Kirk is talking about. Personally being able to weld AL without $400 worth of equip sounds like a party in your pants. Of course I'm the guy who is welding with a $25 15amp 110VAC buzz box, but that new TL1000R is going to get smashed on the race track one of these days, and I'll need to fix it. S Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:13:08 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24822 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07469; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:13:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199811112213.RAA07469@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:12:27 -0500 Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.19981111170343.007f0e90@pop.mindspring.com> References: <199811112150.QAA05546@radagast.wizard.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 11 Nov 98, at 17:03, Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. wrote: > I am pretty good about hooking up the Battery Tender if I know > I won't be riding for a few days, though. I have a charger but unfortunately I don't have a garage, and removing the battery from my bike is quite a project. I guess I'll just have to make sure I don't let it sit for too long! That's gonna be tough! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:15:23 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA24925 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:15:34 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:15:29 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:14:05 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Two Bikes/Nagy -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Jonathan, Not really irritated, more incredulous at the high asking prices for used stuff (especially 883s!), period. But if a guy can get someone to pay over MSRP for his used Sporty with a few bolt-ons, then more power to him, the buyer's a dope, the market has spoken, and tough tittyrings for me. I'm still amazed that people would pay those prices, though. Prolly the same folks who paid 2 grand too much for an Isuzu Rodeo because it had Honda badges on it. {:-) Peace, Joe (remembering when new ones were $3995) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:17:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA24965 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA00985 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (known saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA04142 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.his.com (known mail.his.com [205.177.25.9]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA15554 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from harris.his.com (harris.his.com [205.252.80.17]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA29691 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:17:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981111171614.008bfbf0@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:16:14 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:50 PM 11/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >I'm riding around town? The Widder website says that the vests >and gloves together will draw 53 watts. How long does it take to >charge up a battery, anyhow? Twigg put in a new battery when I >picked up the bike in June, and so far it's been very reliable. "Volts times amps equals watts" Therefore 53 watts divided by 12vdc equals a 4.42 amp drain. This does not included parasitic losses associated with the inherent resistance of the wiring to and from. Figure at least another 15% for same. Less if the buss voltage was higher (DC, despite what Edison thought, is a copper hog). Now all you need to do is check the amp output of your stator. See the manual, but normally most bikes don't break even until 1.5-2k rpm. The average modern 600 only puts out a peak of about 10 amps @ a rectified 12VDC. You can add up all the bulbs that are burning and figure mathematically what you need, or get a multi meter with a plug in shunt. Place it in-line across the positive lead @ the battery and measure specifically at what rpm you break even at eclectically. As long as most of your riding is above that RPM you will be fine. Spend too much time below it and your battery will rapidly drain. Note, you need at least a 50 amp shunt to test starter cranking draw, or else you will blast the muti meter. S Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:25:46 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25139 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-36-242.s242.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.242]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24922; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:25:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364A14F4.F7B89970@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:51:32 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JOE NAGY CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Two Bikes For Sale -Reply References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No offense intended to Kelli, but I thought both prices were way high... For 7k and some time shopping you can find a brand new sportster... As for the other bike, this is the second 94-96 era Honda twin I've seen go for more than they cost brand new!! Back when I bought hte 93GSXR, pen and I seriously considered a cruiser instead. I found three dealers hurting to make a sale (late winter/early spring) and basically had my choice of any of the full size cruisers for 6k (HD excluded). We seriously considered the Honda Shadow 1100..very nice machine...they've gone and made it hoaky looking these days though...Decided I was still a bit too young and had the speed bug so we went with the GSXR...glad I did..got lots of wonderful miles out of it (still wish i hadn't sold it to fund racing), and it gave me my push towards the track... CT JOE NAGY wrote: > > Who are these people who slap a little windshield, a "live to ride" > sissy bar and a pair of o-ring highway pegs on an 883 and decide it's > worth seven grand? -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:28:28 1998 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25247 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:28:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (rave@XXXXXX [206.55.25.101]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA01008 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:28:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364A39C4.6404@mnsinc.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:28:36 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Anyone Else Ride Today? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey DC Guys & Gals, I only saw six bikes out on the road today! If you _didn't_ ride today you missed a beautiful sunny and warm day. A wet, overcast Arlington soon gave way to sunny skies by the time I approached Marshall at 11:30 this morning. I hoppped on 647 and was slowed down several miles later by three cages, who were summarily passed safely in two stages across the double yellow line. The roads were dry for the most part. Several sections in shaded valleys retained that bane of fall riding: wet leaves. Wet leaves also covered the left uphill lane at the gap on 211. The right lanes were perfect though. With the loss of leaves from the trees lining the roads, the sunlight and shadows sometimes have a dappling effect on the roadway, and for me it required extra concentration to focus on reality =:-D Not too many cars overall. Once across the gap I stopped and had my hamburger (to go) from the Appetite Repair Shop in Sperryville. Lots of strong winds, plenty of sun and the absence of humanoids made eating alone near Skyline's entrance a real pleasure. All told I put 229 on the odo, average speed of 61, and 3:45 hrs in the saddle. JK From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:28:54 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25259 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:28:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08984; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:29:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199811112229.RAA08984@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Stephen Harris Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:28:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.19981111171517.008bfbf0@mail.his.com> References: <199811112150.QAA05546@radagast.wizard.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Whew, this electrical stuff is tough! :-) For an accountant, at least! :-) I have an 1100, and my usual cruising RPM is 4,000-4,500.. other than that, I have no idea! Maybe I'll find someone with a multi- meter I can borrow! I've posted a message to the GPZ owners list - someone there has probably already figured this out! Thanks, Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:32:56 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25330 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:33:13 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:33:08 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:31:46 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: gixer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Two Bikes For Sale -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline My point exactly. Ya gotta do a little legwork. On the upside, screw Harley stock--get yerself an 883 in the fall, bolt $300 worth of chrome trinkets to it, and sell it for two grand over list in the spring! Now that's ROI. >>> "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" - 11/11/98 5:51 PM >>> No offense intended to Kelli, but I thought both prices were way high... For 7k and some time shopping you can find a brand new sportster... As for the other bike, this is the second 94-96 era Honda twin I've seen go for more than they cost brand new!! Back when I bought hte 93GSXR, pen and I seriously considered a cruiser instead. I found three dealers hurting to make a sale (late winter/early spring) and basically had my choice of any of the full size cruisers for 6k (HD excluded). We seriously considered the Honda Shadow 1100..very nice machine...they've gone and made it hoaky looking these days though...Decided I was still a bit too young and had the speed bug so we went with the GSXR...glad I did..got lots of wonderful miles out of it (still wish i hadn't sold it to fund racing), and it gave me my push towards the track... CT JOE NAGY wrote: > > Who are these people who slap a little windshield, a "live to ride" > sissy bar and a pair of o-ring highway pegs on an 883 and decide it's > worth seven grand? -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:37:16 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25438 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:37:14 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3JHCa03786 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:34:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <5588efae.364a10e5@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:34:13 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - Long! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 All Disclaimer: This is all just opinion, worth what you paid - I gotta admit this is one subject I have put a lot of thought into over the last two years and can't resist responding to these posts. Mike, IMHO that is patently not what an 883 is for. That FC plastic crap would do nothing but put a rider in the weeds, as the bike would still be a sheep in cheesy wolf's clothing. If someone wants a pushrod V Twin sport bike that can't quite keep up with any other V twin sportbikes currently offered then they should buy a Buell (as I would love to do if I had the $$) The 883, and the rest of the HD line is meant for one thing, and it does that better than any other marque, and that's cruise with poseur/style points. It does it so well that folks are willing to pay the price of a 916 or even an SPS to tottle around the highways and bar hop. My wife has a 97 883 Hugger that does exactly what a HD is supposed to : it's loud as hell, its low, and its black. People dig that. I park her bike next to mine when I'm washing them, a 98 VTR, and my nieghbors ZX-7. People always comment on hers and look right past mine. I've thought about converting her bike to a track bike for Summit, but why try to get water from a stone? The frame's not right, the suspension is light years behind, the brakes are crap, it's a freakin push-rod motor fer chrissakes, and new it costs almost as much as a ZX-6! Do people take a 916 and try to add forward controls, lower it, put on drag pipes and saddle bags? I can accept the fact that most people as John Burns said "don't get it", ( the appeal of the HD's) but it sort of irks me when I here poeple make comments as if they have a grasp on the "real essense" of motorcycling. I don't think that it all needs to be sportbikes, and I think there are other ways to value bikes besides pure performance/technology. To each his own. I guess my only real point in this little rant is that I can't kid myself that my wife's 883 is anything more than a very cool looking, very cool sounding, outdated, underperforming, piece of crap. And thats all its meant to be. Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:37:17 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25440 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:37:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA09661; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:36:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199811112236.RAA09661@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "John C. Kozyn" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:35:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Anyone Else Ride Today? CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <364A39C4.6404@mnsinc.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 11 Nov 98, at 17:28, John C. Kozyn wrote: > I only saw six bikes out on the road today! If you _didn't_ ride today you > missed a beautiful sunny and warm day. Okay, rub it in... I had to work! No Veteran's Day holiday here! It did look nice this afternoon, though... after a very rainy start! Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:52:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA25750 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:52:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01503 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:52:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.his.com (known mail.his.com [205.177.25.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06197 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:52:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from harris.his.com (harris.his.com [205.252.80.17]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20591; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:52:14 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981111175101.00874310@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:51:01 -0500 To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, tl1000s@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: TLR PC maps Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <934994a9.3649ba5c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:25 AM 11/11/98 EST, CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX wrote: >Does anyone out there know of anyone or any websites that have DJPC maps that >you can download? I have it on my bike, and like most people without a dyno, >I am looking for some help to get me started. > >Thanks for the help... > >Sean... No, but if you get a source let me know. I would suggest getting to a dyno in either case. I have found differences for best power output between my stock TLR and two others in stock trim are quite drastic. With the Yoshimura box, settings that made best power were from 15% richer to 15% leaner mid and high range different. The bikes were all measured on Fast Lane Cycles dyno. Overall power output was the about the same, leading me to the sneaking suspicion that this may have more to do with the kug-jie yosh box than the engines themselves, but it makes interesting comparison none the less. Fully map for the power commander is the way to go. Enjoy S Harris Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 17:59:15 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA25882 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:59:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:59:33 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:59:33 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:57:45 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: JKBroga@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - Long! -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Yow! Jonathan--I hope someday you'll get to ride a Sporty with real suspension, real brakes and good tires (all easy mods). It'll still be a "very cool looking, very cool sounding, outdated, underperforming, piece of crap," but a very cool looking, very cool sounding, outdated, underperforming, piece of crap that'll put a HUGE grin on yer mug in the tight stuff. Plus it bugs the beegeezes outta the H-D faithful who can't understand what's goin' on with all that air under the bike. This I know. Joe (who got to ride the Motorcylist/Joe Minton-built 883/1200 a couple years ago) >>> - 11/11/98 5:34 PM >>> From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 18:46:10 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26754 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-183-67.s67.tnt20.brd.erols.com [207.172.183.67]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA25882 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:45:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002101be0dd5$c13dcac0$43b7accf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: parts bike..... Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:45:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/plain"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE0DA3.754A8180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE0DA3.754A8180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Collin or other GSXR owners got this from info beat classifieds..... Les Kat 750 1993, Suzuki GSXR, 11K miles, $500/OBO Type Street Bike Engine Size 750cc Description layed down on left side, parting out everything cracked frame email for parts needed I will sell them for your price, fairings salvagable Seller Info User ID: karmbrar View seller's other ads For sale by Private Party (703) 222-0920 Chantilly, Virginia 20120 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE0DA3.754A8180 Content-Type: image/gif Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <001101be0dd5$bf67d240$43b7accf@default> R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAP///wAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw== ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE0DA3.754A8180 Content-Type: image/gif Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <001201be0dd5$bf910520$43b7accf@default> R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAP///wAAACH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw== ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE0DA3.754A8180-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 18:51:39 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26887 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:51:36 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3IRBa27407 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:50:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:50:32 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - big grins Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Joe - Don't say that! You'll tempt me into pulling out the Screamin Eagle catelogues and refuting myself! Like I said, I been thinkin about this for 2 years, and everytime I get psyched to make a little racer/torque monster out of it I add up the price and then compare it to the facory version (Buell X1, White Lightening and Cyclone) and figure the Buell probably the better for package for similiar price. You wouldn't know it by my fairly common choice of sport bike, but I really do enjoy having something different from others, and I have to "fiddle" with my bike all the time. An R1 would leave me bored with nothing left to do! So in that vein a hot rodded 883 would be more interesting than a Buell, and I really have no problem with that, so long as people don't disdain them for what they are as cruisers and say that a race- rep is it's only worthwhile purpose . . .(I hope this all comes across as peaceful/conciliatory, I'm not trying to be abrasive or anything) Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 18:56:38 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26938 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-36-242.s242.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.242]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03853; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:56:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364A2B48.3E209DEB@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:26:48 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Leslie N. Forewright" CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: parts bike..... References: <002101be0dd5$c13dcac0$43b7accf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, Brian told me about this one yesterday..or was it Monday?? I forget... I really wish I had the money...The bike's worth much mroe than that in parts, and with GMD computrak opening a shop up in MD, you could have the frame fixed for less than $500... And even though they are purely evil machines to work on, I am very partial to the 93-95 GSXRs..especially the 93 :) I hope someone can get it...great deal..... Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > > Hey Collin or other GSXR owners got this from info beat classifieds..... Les > Kat 750 > > 1993, Suzuki GSXR, 11K miles, $500/OBO > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 18:57:20 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27021 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:57:19 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3ZNa019214 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:56:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:56:15 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: New to List - What do you ride? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 I'm very new to list, and enjoy the content, and the fact that its local so we can actually ride together. I was wondering if people would be willing to real quickly introduce themselves by just sending to the list the bikes they ride, so I can put a bike with a name. Our bike choice probably says as much or more about our personalities than most things. It would just help me to picture what kind of crowd is out there . . . Thanks Jonathan 98 VTR, 97 883 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 19:01:05 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27142 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:01:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-36-242.s242.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.242]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06812; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:00:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364A2C53.2F5626B1@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:31:15 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JKBroga@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: HD Racers...Re: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - big grins References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking of HD's converted to race mode... I recall during the first WERA/Vintage weekend last season, a guy had a super sharp looking Sportster (pretty sure it was a 1200 though) out on the track... He was giving some of the more modern bikes hell. I believe he even had a 2nd place finish as well as a couple of other top 5 spots before his motor gave up the ghost... It was by far the nicest looking race bike on the track though...chrome everywhere...nice low clipons, etc. etc. Very sharp! Brianprobably remembers the one I'm talking about...all the corner workers were chatting about it that evening... -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 19:19:00 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27396 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-36-242.s242.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.242]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19146; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:18:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364A30C7.8B8C5D8A@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:50:15 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JKBroga@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New to List - What do you ride? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mmm..I'd love to try one of them VTR's one of these days :) Played around some on a TLS and it was a real hoot, but I think the VTR is a lot better looking (yes Jack, your bike is cool, but i like the VTR looks better :)) Well, daily I ride an old 82 Yamaha XJ650 Maxim. It gets me to work and back and even proved to be quite a fun little bike. ANd with the hard luggage I bought from Colleen, I can load up all kinds of stuff and go wherever. Soon to breath life again (I hope) is an EX500. Gotta do a parts swap between the two machines I have (again...)... This time I hope things will work.. And when race season is upon us I can be found on a 97GSXR750. It's fast, it's mean, and even downright scary sometimes, and I love it. Look for a bright yellow bike with a red fender to be at or near the front of the pack next summer out at Summit Point!! Hopefully within a year or so I'll be able to afford a nice twin of some sort or a V4...On that list is the new Suzuki, Honda hawks, VFR, or a Duc 900ss/sp with cr fairings (or lack thereof). -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 19:27:49 1998 Return-Path: ursulina@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27612 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:27:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from ursulina (207-172-117-77.s77.tnt12.brd.erols.com [207.172.117.77]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA02223 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:27:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006c01be0dec$7fac6500$4d75accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" Cc: Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) Electrical concerns Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:28:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 I'm interested in getting an electric vest and maybe gloves so would battery problems be a concern for me since I have a smaller, older bike and only ride on the weekends? I'm assuming a smaller bike means a smaller batter so couldn't that cause trouble? - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD -----Original Message----- From: Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) >At 04:50 PM 11/11/98 -0500, Anita Lauro wrote: >>Anyhow, how much do I have to worry about draining the battery if >>I'm riding around town? > >Anita, > Congrats on the new electrics. You will love them. I routinely run two >Widder vests (mine and passenger's) plus heated grips and haven't had any >battery trouble even with short trips. I am pretty good about hooking up >the Battery Tender if I know I won't be riding for a few days, though. > >Harry >Bethesda, MD >'97 BMW R1100RT >http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >"The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 19:35:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27774 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:35:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA02809 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:35:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA08491 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:35:39 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WHCUa03081 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:34:45 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <55895421.364a2d25@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:34:45 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: New to List - What do you ride? -vtr/tls Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/11/98 7:24:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, gixer@XXXXXX writes: << mmm..I'd love to try one of them VTR's one of these days :) Played around some on a TLS and it was a real hoot, but I think the VTR is a lot better looking (yes Jack, your bike is cool, but i like the VTR looks better :)) >> No offense taken, some dont like how the TLS looks. Me personally I think the VTR is kinda boring looking. But trust me Collin, as far as power goes there is no comparison...then again you did say you thought the TL was too much for the street. Especially when shes kickin out 116 to the rear wheel. I did like the thinness of the VTR but the TL fits me better. The VTR is typical Honda, sturdy, solid (Im still wondering about the long term viability of mounting the swingarm to the engine case tho), but quite boring to look at and to ride. Just my HO......0.02. Either way, twins kick ass....the most streetable power out there. Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 20:21:57 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28582 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:21:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.45]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:08:42 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Its Totaled (An F3 bites the dust) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:12:42 -0500 Message-ID: <017001be0dd9$8c88ea40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <2ebc95e2.3649c2cb@aol.com> Importance: Normal > If the salvage price is low enough I will most likely buy it back, fix the > controls and ignition (less than $300) and ride it ugly. Streetfighter! Streetfighter!! ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 20:26:21 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28627 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomspc (user-37kbm2g.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.216.80]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12851 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:26:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <008201be0ddb$4257c5c0$50d845cf@tomspc.mindspring.com> From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Anyone Else Ride Today? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:24:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hey! I rode today! My first real trip since getting over pneumonia... I went to work at a clients office in Gaithersburg. Even though I put all highway miles on the VFR it was still great to be out. I knew this was going to be the last warm day of the season so I couldn't let it go to waste. Got super cold on the way home at 7pm... no sun and dropping temperatures. Even with the cold weather stuff on I was cold. It was much better once in Virginia however. -Tom '86 VFR750 -----Original Message----- From: John C. Kozyn To: dc-cycles Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 5:38 PM Subject: Anyone Else Ride Today? >Hey DC Guys & Gals, > >I only saw six bikes out on the road today! If you _didn't_ ride today >you missed a beautiful sunny and warm day. > >A wet, overcast Arlington soon gave way to sunny skies by the time I >approached Marshall at 11:30 this morning. I hoppped on 647 and was >slowed down several miles later by three cages, who were summarily >passed safely in two stages across the double yellow line. The roads >were dry for the most part. Several sections in shaded valleys retained >that bane of fall riding: wet leaves. Wet leaves also covered the left >uphill lane at the gap on 211. The right lanes were perfect though. > >With the loss of leaves from the trees lining the roads, the sunlight >and shadows sometimes have a dappling effect on the roadway, and for me >it required extra concentration to focus on reality =:-D > >Not too many cars overall. Once across the gap I stopped and had my >hamburger (to go) from the Appetite Repair Shop in Sperryville. Lots of >strong winds, plenty of sun and the absence of humanoids made eating >alone near Skyline's entrance a real pleasure. > >All told I put 229 on the odo, average speed of 61, and 3:45 hrs in the >saddle. > >JK From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 20:26:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28630 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:26:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA03292 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:26:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (known imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA09719 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:26:17 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WZKQa03874 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:22:53 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <7b8a16e3.364a386d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:22:53 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: New to List - What do you ride? -vtr/tls Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Colin, Jack et al. I hope this doesn't sound like bragging, but I am really proud of my bike and the way it looks. I hacked off that bogus rear fender, signal mounts and license mount and bought a pair of Wolf Racing carbon fiber slip ons that exit under the tail light. I got em from an American distributor but he tells me there's only a dozen or so in the U.S. and 4 or 5 on east coast. Their from Great Britian, and though they cost a bit, but I think they're worth it in looks and sound. Not quite as tight under there or as pretty as a 916, but a major improvement over stock nonetheless. I have not re-jetted but when I do I'll be over at Fast Lane for that 1 hr deal you guys mentioned. Should get up to about 108/110 bhp, not that I can really tap that. I'll be out at Burger Queen on Sunday and look forward to seeing people's bikes. Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 20:28:32 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28716 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.23]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:25:18 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - Long! Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:29:18 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01be0ddb$ddd9f400$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <5588efae.364a10e5@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > All > Disclaimer: This is all just opinion, worth what you paid - Ditto > Mike, > IMHO that is > patently not what an 883 is for. Wrong! The XL is the decendant of the K series HD's. It was always HD's sportier, better handling, quicker bike. No reason that that should be any different today. Look at the stock seating position on the XLs: no feet forward pegs. No ape hangers. If you wanna turn it into a mini-bagger, that's your choice, but as intended since 1957, it's a 'sportster'. > My wife has a 97 883 Hugger that does exactly what a HD is > supposed to : it's loud as hell, its low, and its black. People > dig that. To a lot of people (myself included) yes, they do dig that. But let's not forget the ban in Chicago that resulted from loud pipes. Lots of people don't like them (much as I don't care for the squid I saw on 210 tonight.) > and new it > costs almost as much as a ZX-6! Yikes! What kinda 883 is it, a hugger? And while at it, which ZX-6? List on an 883 is (last year, anyway) $5395. I believe the list price on the ZX-6R is over $7000. > To each his own. Ditto. > I guess my only real > point in this > little rant is that I can't kid myself that my wife's 883 is anything more > than a very cool looking, very cool sounding, outdated, > underperforming, piece > of crap. And thats all its meant to be. Doesn't have to be an underperformer with that much displacement and the Evo build. Sure, a 1999 Ural is a dog, and always will be. But there is MUCH room for improvement on the XL. Turbos, superchargers, high C.R. pistons, new ignitions, big bore kits, etc, etc, etc. Sure, it won't be cheap, but I'd bet that with enough money spent, you could get an 883 that would be a very nice, classically styled, sportster. Which was HD's original intent. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 20:28:38 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28726 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.23]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:25:19 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - big grins Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:29:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01be0ddb$dedd5a40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 > Don't say that! You'll tempt me into pulling out the Screamin Eagle > catelogues and refuting myself! Do it, do it, do it!!! I'll help you spin wrenches. > but I really do enjoy having something different > from others, > and I have to "fiddle" with my bike all the time. An R1 would > leave me bored > with nothing left to do! So in that vein a hot rodded 883 would be more > interesting than a Buell, Do it!!! That would be totally cool. And, better yet, after the suspension/engine/tranny mods, make it a mini bagger, with the big gas tank, leather saddle bags, etc. Cool!!!! Funny that this comes up, as well as that supercharger thread. Somehow, while in Ohio, I got the idea that a fuellie wing would rock. Or, barring that, a bunch of Weber downdrafts... ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 20:29:02 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28743 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:28:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomspc (user-37kbm2g.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.216.80]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA29550; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:28:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <009101be0ddb$a01237e0$50d845cf@tomspc.mindspring.com> From: "Tom Zell" To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, "Stephen Harris" Cc: Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:27:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Don't even give it another though Anita... Jeannette rode her old VF500 all winter with her Gerbing liner and gloves(full liner... sleaves and all) without any troubles... and those older Hondas were known to have less than perfect charging systems. I think you'll be fine. -Tom '86 VFR750 -----Original Message----- From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Stephen Harris Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) >Whew, this electrical stuff is tough! :-) For an accountant, at least! :-) > >I have an 1100, and my usual cruising RPM is 4,000-4,500.. other >than that, I have no idea! Maybe I'll find someone with a multi- >meter I can borrow! I've posted a message to the GPZ owners list - >someone there has probably already figured this out! > >Thanks, >Anita > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 20:35:25 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28930 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:35:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomspc (user-37kbm2g.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.216.80]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA17023; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:35:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00b301be0ddc$83ed8460$50d845cf@tomspc.mindspring.com> From: "Tom Zell" To: "Ursulina Viteri" Cc: Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) Electrical concerns Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:33:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 yes yes yes! You would definitely need a battery tender to keep it fully charged while you're not riding it. Both the Virago(don't know if you have it running yet) and the 454 have the old weak m/c charging systems that die and the drop of a hat. Make sure that they are up to snuff befoer putting an extra load on the system. -Tom -----Original Message----- From: Ursulina Viteri Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) Electrical concerns >I'm interested in getting an electric vest and maybe gloves so would battery >problems be a concern for me since I have a smaller, older bike and only >ride on the weekends? I'm assuming a smaller bike means a smaller batter so >couldn't that cause trouble? > >- - Ursulina >1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD > >-----Original Message----- >From: Harry G. Greenspun, M.D. >To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> >Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 2:10 PM >Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) > > >>At 04:50 PM 11/11/98 -0500, Anita Lauro wrote: >>>Anyhow, how much do I have to worry about draining the battery if >>>I'm riding around town? >> >>Anita, >> Congrats on the new electrics. You will love them. I routinely run two >>Widder vests (mine and passenger's) plus heated grips and haven't had any >>battery trouble even with short trips. I am pretty good about hooking up >>the Battery Tender if I know I won't be riding for a few days, though. >> >>Harry >>Bethesda, MD >>'97 BMW R1100RT >>http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >>"The more you live, the less you die." > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 20:36:50 1998 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA28954 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:36:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from tomspc (user-37kbm2g.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.216.80]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12687; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:36:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00ba01be0ddc$b3672480$50d845cf@tomspc.mindspring.com> From: "Tom Zell" To: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" , Cc: Subject: Re: New to List - What do you ride? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:35:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 VFR... there is no substitute! -Tom '86 VFR750 -----Original Message----- From: Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) To: JKBroga@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 7:25 PM Subject: Re: New to List - What do you ride? >mmm..I'd love to try one of them VTR's one of these days :) Played >around some on a TLS and it was a real hoot, but I think the VTR is a >lot better looking (yes Jack, your bike is cool, but i like the VTR >looks better :)) > >Well, daily I ride an old 82 Yamaha XJ650 Maxim. It gets me to work and >back and even proved to be quite a fun little bike. ANd with the hard >luggage I bought from Colleen, I can load up all kinds of stuff and go >wherever. > >Soon to breath life again (I hope) is an EX500. Gotta do a parts swap >between the two machines I have (again...)... This time I hope things >will work.. > >And when race season is upon us I can be found on a 97GSXR750. It's >fast, it's mean, and even downright scary sometimes, and I love it. Look >for a bright yellow bike with a red fender to be at or near the front of >the pack next summer out at Summit Point!! > >Hopefully within a year or so I'll be able to afford a nice twin of some >sort or a V4...On that list is the new Suzuki, Honda hawks, VFR, or a >Duc 900ss/sp with cr fairings (or lack thereof). > > > > >-- >_________________________________________ >Collin and Penny Fagan >LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard >(202) 366-0067 (work) >(703) 356-4279 (home) >ICQ UIN: 435732 >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ >(us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 21:12:25 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29579 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:12:23 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3WVVa03080 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:11:30 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <1c608ab1.364a43d2@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:11:30 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: HD Sportsters and thier uses Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 George wrote that the Sportster was/is intended for sporting use. I guess I can't argue what it was built for because I am not the builder/designer. I can say though, that if they built this as a sportbike, or even had any remotely sporty thoughts in mind, they missed the boat, like, by a million miles. Maybe in the K bike heyday, the late 50's it was the machine to beat. Now the name carries on but the performance relative to other available machines does not. The bike is too close to that very XLH of the mid 50's! Reliability is up, top speed just breaks 100 (on a long stretch . . I've sean it but it took awhile) Anyway, yea, for an assload of money I could make it maybe keep up with my stock Honda, but it would not be as streetable or comfortable. One day following a Suzuki Bandit 400 down 606 in Loudoun my front pipe vibrated off. (we were pushing 80/90+ for 10-15 minutes) Then later my clutch assembly worked itself loose and I had to pull over on the side of 66 with out clutch and tighten it back up. Twice my cable terminals on the battery have worked themselves loose and left me on the side of the road (I carry a good tool kit now!) All this I blame on me. It nevers happens to my wife, or to me when I'm riding it as I percieve was intended - slower (less than 70-75). I have slathered stuff with locktite, but as I'm coming down from Shenandoah I don't need to be thinking "Geez, I wonder if my brake calipers are tight . . ." All these experiences led me to sell mine and buy a bike made for that sorta thing. As far as price, we got it at MSRP, but then added drag pipes, air cleaner, mirrors, corbin seat, removable passenger seat, highway pegs, pass. pegs. chrome do-dads here and there and viola, $7800. I haven't even touched the motor except for air-cleaner and free mods to the CV carb (drilla little here, there, a screw turn or two and jet kit oops not free) The Bandit beat me everytime at drags, and I used to race dirt so I can't be totally incompetant. Any way dead horse here - love to chat about it at Burger King - I type too slow for much more of this!! Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 21:16:48 1998 Return-Path: wes@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29628 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:16:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA03118 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:16:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981111211659.00acb430@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:17:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: wes Subject: Re: Anyone Else Ride Today? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hope all the vets had a good day! i had to work (still there @ 9:20 pm) i rode today...and yesterday...and the day before... anybody got a cheap car for sale? i don't have a car, am pretty interested in getting one before the snow flies... --wes From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 21:25:51 1998 Return-Path: harris@XXXXXX Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29753 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from harris.his.com (harris.his.com [205.252.80.17]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28580 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:25:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981111212414.008b9350@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:24:14 -0500 To: From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) In-Reply-To: <009101be0ddb$a01237e0$50d845cf@tomspc.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:27 PM 11/11/98 -0500, Tom Zell wrote: >those older Hondas were known to have less than >perfect charging systems. Indeed. The 79-84 CB790/900/1100 all had field coil generators mounted on the end of the crank. Utilizing feedback to the excitor coil, output voltage was independent of crank rpm for the most part. A slick design that evolved into the early Honda generators, but one that suffered from rapid wear in this particular application. Later GL model based on this were so bad that a factory recall / update was issued. >I think you'll be fine. Probably quite right. But while antidotal evidence is comforting, empirical verification is empowering. S Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 21:27:43 1998 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA29839 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from rdt (207-172-117-79.s79.tnt12.brd.erols.com [207.172.117.79]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06504; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:27:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811120227.VAA06504@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Roy D. Turner" To: , Subject: Re: New to List - What do you ride? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:29:56 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1998 Suzuki GSXR 750 (black, red & silver) Roy D. Turner, Esq. ---------- > From: JKBroga@XXXXXX > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: New to List - What do you ride? > Date: Wednesday, November 11, 1998 6:56 PM > > I'm very new to list, and enjoy the content, and the fact that its local so we > can actually ride together. I was wondering if people would be willing to real > quickly introduce themselves by just sending to the list the bikes they ride, > so I can put a bike with a name. Our bike choice probably says as much or more > about our personalities than most things. It would just help me to picture > what kind of crowd is out there . . . Thanks > > Jonathan > 98 VTR, 97 883 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 21:50:12 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00318 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:50:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc2-s30.wizard.net (tc2-s30.wizard.net [206.161.15.106]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29762; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:50:24 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: JKBroga@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New to List - What do you ride? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:56:54 -0500 Message-ID: <364b4b66.700755@smtp.wizard.net> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1996 Kawasaki GPZ1100 (black) It's a sport-tourer that was only sold in the US in '95 and '96. It was still being sold in Canada and overseas in '98, don't know about '99, One of those bikes that just didn't sell well here... which makes it a bit of a bargain! It has a detuned ZX11 engine, and tons of torque (which I love!). Bought it in June with 297 miles on it - over 7,500 on it now! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 21:58:02 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00419 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([208.220.25.16]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 378; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:56:44 -0500 Message-ID: <364A4F55.524466E4@tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:00:37 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wes CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone Else Ride Today? References: <4.1.19981111211659.00acb430@pop.rcn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wes wrote: > hope all the vets had a good day! i had to work (still there @ 9:20 > pm) Yep, had to work too, but I was still thinking about the vets today. Just got the phone with my dad (Army in the 60's, Korea, France, 'Nam), and figured I should also send out a big Thank You to everyone out there now serving or who has served! You guys and gals put your butts on the line to keep this country strong and great and safe and free. Thanks! Ride Safe! Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 21:58:10 1998 Return-Path: wes@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00427 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:58:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA06474 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:58:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981111212147.00a08f00@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:58:32 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: wes Subject: Re: Soon to be electrified! :-) In-Reply-To: <199811112150.QAA05546@radagast.wizard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" i just got a widder vest from a bud of mine...except for the ride in today (10 am) it's been a necessary addition. i'm glad i shelled out for it. you don't even have to set it all that high to get good & warm. what i was surprised about was that it seems to be helping my hands stay warm...i guess heating up the blood or something. oh, btw anita -- if murphy is indeed paying attention to your electrified new-self, and we do indeed have a mild, think how much everybody will owe you! From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 22:31:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00954 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:31:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA04399 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.wch.adelphia.net (known alpha.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA12065 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:31:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from gforeman (surf161.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.161]) by alpha.wch.adelphia.net (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id WAA09007 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:31:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001801be0dec$f46bc8e0$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> From: "FJ1100 Home" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: New to List - What do you ride? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:30:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 1985 Yamaha FJ1100 (for tearing up the Asphalt!) http://www.fj1100.com/summit/980531-1.jpg 1988 Kawasaki KX 250 (for tearing up the Dirt!) http://www.fj1100.com/summit/0601-3.jpg >so I can put a bike with a name. Our bike choice probably says as much or more >about our personalities than most things. It would just help me to picture >what kind of crowd is out there . . . Thanks > >Jonathan >98 VTR, 97 883 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 22:32:15 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA00963 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:32:14 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3ASBa04821 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:29:29 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <539a3915.364a5619@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:29:29 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: VTR comfort Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 >Delightful post. I loved it. Looking forward to meeting you. >BTW, I sat on a VTR today and I thought it felt a little cramped. I'm >about 5'9", 32" sleeve - what do you think? I do like a twin, although >I'm now riding an old V4 (1985 VF700F Interceptor) >JK I am 5'10 with I think a 34 or 36 sleeve. Not to sure on that one, but I think if you are concerned at all about comfort a VFR800 would be an excellent alternative. From what I've read you absolutely cannot go wrong with that bike. I like the more sporty approach of the VTR, but outside of appearance and a bit more comfort. I think the day to day practical performance differences in these bikes are miniscule. I love mine VTR though. My wrists/hands hurt a bit the first few days, but I either subconciously adapted or my muscles got used it to because now I have zero comfort issues. The bike forces a stop every 120mi or so for gas, so thats a chance to shake the kinks out. Stop by Coleman and see if they'll let you test a VTR and VFR. I rode a VTR there, but I didn't buy there. You can do better somewhere else to actually purchase. (I've bought 2 bikes there and will never buiy another from them) Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 23:05:46 1998 Return-Path: Chev1958@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA01584 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:05:44 -0500 (EST) From: Chev1958@XXXXXX Received: from Chev1958@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3IHDa03081 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:04:11 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <5256499f.364a5e3b@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:04:11 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: New to List - What do you ride? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 170 1986 Honda Magna 700. Stock except for Tracy Roadwarrior windshield and large Willie and Max saddle bags (no studs nor fringe). Those extras are necessary for me, because I ride the bike everywhere. It actually serves as the second "car" in my household. Numerous trips to Atlanta, Ga., Jacksonville, Fla., Philadelphia, Pa., Norfolk, Va. Plus to work every day it doesn't rain or snow. No brag, just fact. Currently stationed at Fort Meade, Md. Plus, it got a cruise aboard the aircraft carrier USS John F. Kennedy from Norfolk to Philadelphia. Riding it on the flight deck was interesting, until the Air Boss caught me. Mitch Holmes LT, U.S. Navy From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 23:32:55 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02090 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA05139 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (known imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA13102 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:48 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id 6BNVa09167; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:10 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <24d3a882.364a64ca@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:10 EST To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: HOA Trouble Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-10 23:37:15 EST, you write: << I live in Centreville, VA with the Newgate HOA. They have decided that we cant park our bikes more than one to a space, perpindicular to our cars, or on the line between the two assigned spots. I own this damn house and the two measly spots that come with it. Besides writing a letter to the HOA, and offering to run a petition to change the covenants, anyone else out there have any advice? I park mine between the two spots, so it doesnt impose on my neighbors, just my roommate. Pisses me off..... >> Here's what some enterprising mc'rs did... grabbed as many riders as possible, as in 100+ and rode into town before businesses opened... and, you guessed it, parked ONE BIKE PER SPOT and blocked parking for the entire main street. City changed the ordinance to allow multiple bikes in one spot again. Lung Mentally double parked. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 23:32:53 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02087 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA05136 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA13099 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:43 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id VIPKa03080; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:09 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:09 EST To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: wheee.. :) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-10 15:36:07 EST, you write: << Fun.. but a reminder that cold road and cold tires can equal sudden loss of traction.. Everyone ride safe out there (right now esp. with the slight precip I'm seeing out the window) Brian McCoy >> To all: Another fun reminder... also be sure to check the air pressure in your tires.. yep, again. Cold weather contracts the ol' atmosphere and, you guessed it, lowers your tire pressure! You can lose 5lb pressure without noticing it and if you're tires were a tad low to begin with you can learn the joys of 'bead/rim separation' during hard accel/decel. Ride safe. Lung From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 23:33:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02093 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:33:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA05145 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (known imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA13114 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:33:21 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id GOOTa02243; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:08 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <7af8844d.364a64c8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:32:08 EST To: garicao@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-10 15:11:10 EST, you write: << For removing water, alcohol works ok, but acetone is better and much faster. --garcia >> Eeeeek! Caution! Acetone is also 'better & much faster' at removing PAINT! Yup. It'll bond with water & help ya there but be carefull of the ol' paint job! Also Acetone is verrrrrrry flamable. No cigarettes or charcoal briquettes! (Work with the stuff daily and we're required to use it under flowhoods with fire control systems.) It'll also eat up any o-rings or other rubber seals it contacts. Be careful! You can trash quite a few items with this, though it will do less damage to your skin than the acids. (Grab the MSDS for details.) Lung From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 11 23:53:13 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02449 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:53:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA05303 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:53:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (known imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA13579 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:53:08 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id WMEAa09167 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:52:26 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <3abd8799.364a698a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:52:26 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: wheee.. :) -Reply Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-11 14:29:28 EST, you write: << I think somehow some three-toed sloth blood got mixed in down here. Joe near Richmond >> It's cuz we're late for the Farm Bureau meetin' that we're even going that dang fast, yuh whippersnappers! (Acutally, I've noticed a badddddd tendencie for locals to burn right thru that yellow/red light and tend to pause a bit at the green myself. ESP on the bike!) On the other hand, I TRIED to get my old P.O.S. Monte Carlo totaled & never suceeded. Seemed to frighten the red-light burners... and small children. My own included. Lung From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 12 00:16:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA02881 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:16:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA06021 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:16:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA14392 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:16:19 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WAIJa07909; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:15:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <7d80dc05.364a6ef3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:15:31 EST To: JKBroga@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - Long! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Geez, put her on a 1200 Sporty without the factory/stock restrictions and compare the two! (Dyna Ign, pipes, S&S or mod CV, the usual home mods) No comparison! Even the 883 can do a bit more if ya trash the factory airbox & put the S.E. filter kit on. (And there is always that intriguing 'smog pump/blower' idea....) An 883 is like that first drink of beer. A tad bitter, not enuf of a buzz and it makes ya shake a bit. But after swearing off, ya still want more and something a little stronger. Heck, get her that Buell and swear you only wanna try it out to see if it she'll like it! *G* Hafta agree that the HD image is 'style' over peg-burnin'. (But what the hell, I'm a stylin' kinda guy! *lmao* 'Side's, it gets the college cuties offa the sidewalk.) Lung *tha-dun-d-dun-d-dun...* From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 12 00:17:00 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA02893 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:16:59 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA17021; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:13:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:06:38 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - Long! -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, JOE NAGY wrote: > Yow! Jonathan--I hope someday you'll get to ride a Sporty with real > suspension, real brakes and good tires (all easy mods). It'll still be XL-S.Demo rode one last year(before they did the engine mods).It wasn't a repli-racer,but the handling/brakes were pretty darn good.Good enough for a street bike.And with the latest models,all you need to hop them up is a K&N filter/rejet,ignition module,and a 2->1 pipe. > Joe (who got to ride the Motorcylist/Joe Minton-built 883/1200 a couple > years ago) I like those street-trackers Bartel's HD has been building.You can see a review under the 'Breakin the Law' section of Moto Online. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 12 00:29:00 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA03089 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA17045; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:19:25 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:15:11 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - big grins To: JKBroga@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 JKBroga@XXXXXX wrote: > Like I said, I been thinkin about this for 2 > years, and everytime I get psyched to make a little racer/torque monster out > of it I add up the price and then compare it to the facory version (Buell X1, > White Lightening and Cyclone) and figure the Buell probably the better for > package for similiar price. Jon,take my advice...*forget*the*Buells*.I had two and will never get another.If you want to know why,drop me a line and I'll send you a copy of my Buell review. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 12 02:46:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA05904 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA07633 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:46:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (known cap1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA17917 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:46:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id CAA09600; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:46:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:46:20 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: LungHD@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: gas tank cleanup In-Reply-To: <7af8844d.364a64c8@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Quite right on all points; thanks. You all should also, then, be aware that Kreem uses acetone as its drying agent. But wait---does this mean I have to use a fume hood, with fire control system ready, when removing my nail polish? --garcia On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 98-11-10 15:11:10 EST, you write: > > << > For removing water, alcohol works ok, but acetone is better and much faster. > > --garcia > >> > > > Eeeeek! Caution! Acetone is also 'better & much faster' at removing PAINT! > Yup. It'll bond with water & help ya there but be carefull of the ol' paint > job! > Also Acetone is verrrrrrry flamable. No cigarettes or charcoal briquettes! > (Work with the stuff daily and we're required to use it under flowhoods with > fire control systems.) > It'll also eat up any o-rings or other rubber seals it contacts. Be careful! > You can trash quite a few items with this, though it will do less damage to > your skin than the acids. (Grab the MSDS for details.) > > Lung > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 12 03:34:21 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA06700 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:34:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA18520; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:30:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:29:17 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Its Totaled (An F3 bites the dust) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <017001be0dd9$8c88ea40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, George Howell wrote: > > If the salvage price is low enough I will most likely buy it back, fix the > > controls and ignition (less than $300) and ride it ugly. > Streetfighter! Streetfighter!! Well,we might as well help him do it right.We'll have a party and everyone can bring a spraycan of their favorite color to paint it. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 12 03:41:06 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA06806 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:41:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA18546; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:37:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:31:12 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Two Bikes/FC Cafe - big grins To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000f01be0ddb$dedd5a40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, George Howell wrote: > Funny that this comes up, as well as that supercharger thread. Somehow, > while in Ohio, I got the idea that a fuellie wing would rock. Or, barring > that, a bunch of Weber downdrafts... Hey George,ever see that article in _Cycle_ back in the '70's featuring the turboed GL1000?Only time I've ever seen a 'Wing doing burnouts. Bet one of the new 1500/6's would go reeeal nice with twin turbos. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 12 03:52:44 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA07652 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:52:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA18590; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:49:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:48:20 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Who Dat? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey all, Saw a red/white/black G00F3 get tagged by a cop on Columbia Pike about a block up from the 395/Wash Blvd turnoff yesterday.Anyone from the list? Don't know what he did,but it seemed what triggered the cop was when he made a quick turnoff onto a side street.The cop swerved over from the lefthand lane to pull off and catch him and cut o