From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 10:34:05 1998 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15374 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:34:04 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3FCAa04134 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:33:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <2a6a6e9.363c7f32@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 10:33:06 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 I don't think so! My bike is even shaking because it's so cold. Unless you've got a heated Gold Wing with an empty backseat, I don't think I'll be playing this game much longer. The ABATE Halloween party was great! I went as Elvira's sister... The Italian version... I had pasta and garlic bread under my cape. Great to finally meet HARLEYZMYN (Barbara) and all the ABATE members from the Montgomery and Washington Chapters! Ride Safely and Warmly Lee Andrese 98 V-Star Classic From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 15:55:04 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19172 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:55:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA19023 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:55:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14962 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:54:58 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WHWSa02538; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:54:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 15:54:24 EST To: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Im up for the party if given enough notice.. and whats with this "end of season" talk? its never the end of the season =) Im gonna rough if in the cold all winter long. From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 22:19:44 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23889 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc1-s10.wizard.net (tc1-s10.wizard.net [206.161.15.40]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA11511 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 22:19:53 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Great Save! [not the Redskins] Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 22:25:54 -0500 Message-ID: <363e1d28.8166374@smtp.wizard.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I nominate myself for best "save" of the weekend!=20 I went on the Skyline Ride today and was having a fine time. We were coming down off of Skyline Drive and waiting to make the left turn onto 211. Lots of traffic to contend with [leaf peeping cages]. =20 Bike in front of me goes, I go. Bike in front of me gets halfway across and decides to stop! Ooops! I think "oh shit" I'm going to hit her and swerve to the left. Then I think "oh shit" I'm going to hit that sign post and swerve slightly to the right. Next thing I notice (after hitting my left hand *hard* on the sign post) is that my rear tire is spinning out in some gravel. Hit the kill switch and proceed to assess the situation while seated on my still upright bike. =46irst and foremost, I am quite happy that I didn't drop the bike. Second, I am also quite happy that nothing was broken, scratched or otherwise damaged. Third, I notice that my front wheel is *on* the raised grass-covered median, between a sign post and another pole. The rear wheel is still on the pavement, surrounded by gravel/dirt. =20 I apparently managed to miss the bike that stopped in front of me, hop a 4" curb, spin my rear tire creating an impressive dust cloud, and then stop the bike without hitting the sign post or the pole (which were maybe 2 feet apart). And, I didn't drop the bike (all 530+ lbs of it!)! I *know* I couldn't pull that off again! Obligatory "Lesson Learned": While the lady who stopped suddenly in front of me apologized profusely, it was my fault for following too closely and assuming that she would go all the way across. I'm just glad it turned out okay! Anita '96 GPZ1100 (the abuse I put up with!!) From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:28:39 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24752 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:28:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23056 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:28:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.154]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20100 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:28:32 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr41-dialup33.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.77.33]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33509) with SMTP id <0F1S00G5M1QJFN@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 04:28:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 23:30:11 -0500 Subject: Re: WOW, There is a god!! To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002101be0619$7e5066a0$214d37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Woohoo, congradulations Sean, it's about time you got back on the road! Hope your foot is "fixed" too. I guess you'll be riding with one eye glued to the rear view mirror from now on. 8^P Let me know if you feel like "causing some trouble" sometime. Maybe you'll let me compare the before and after performance upgrades. hehe Jon >Just got my TLR back today.... new m4 pipes and dynojet pc... hmm.. definately >worth the wait. Its incredible how much more this bike pulls and wheelies now. >Also got a new helmet, the Shoei rf-800 with the Picotte design on it. anyone >who has seen this helmet, knows its a love it or hate it looking thing. >Hunter orange with a joker on either side. very nicely done by troy lee >designs and much more comfortable than my last shoei. Anyway... talk to you >all later. see ya on the road (finally!) > >Sean... >98 TLR From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:36:59 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24872 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:36:53 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr41-dialup33.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.77.33]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33507) with SMTP id <0F1S005M724420@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 04:36:10 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 23:38:20 -0500 Subject: Speeding ticket fix To: DC Cycle Club , Fizzer Squad Message-id: <002e01be061a$a17b95e0$214d37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I know this came around a little while ago, but has anyone really tried this and has it worked successfully? This came across the 400 race list and was wondering if this is just bullshit or real. I have a couple speeding tickets that I would like to go away. Don't know if it's worth the risk in putting out the money and waiting to see if it works, or just going to court and getting the fines/points reduced. Lemme know if you all know anything about this....... Jon dawn.jon@XXXXXX >>Useful Info for Speeding Tickets >> >>If you ever get in this situation, you have an out. This procedure works >>in any state. Read it and try it, you have nothing to lose but the points >>in your license. >> >>If you get a speeding ticket or went through a red light or whatever the >>case may be, and you are going to get points on your license, then there >>is a method to ensure that you DO NOT get any points. When you get your >>fine, send in the check to pay for it and if the fine is say $79, then >>make the check out for $82 or some small amount above the fine. The system >>will then have to send you back a check for the difference, but here is >>the trick! ---DO NOT CASH THE CHECK!! Throw it away! Points are not >>assessed to your license until all the financial transactions are >>complete. If you do not cash the check, then the transactions are not >>complete. However the system has gotten its money so it is happy and will >>not bother you any more. >> >>SOURCE: Thoonen Production Administrator RACV Touring >>Publications. From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:38:00 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24882 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.36]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Sun, 01 Nov 1998 23:34:59 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:39:56 -0500 Message-ID: <004201be061a$d76fd760$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <2a6a6e9.363c7f32@aol.com> Like I've said, it's just now getting comfy to wear full riding gear. $30 heated grips, and you'll be ready to go. BTW, the new K12LT has a heated seat as standard on the upper trim levels (optional on lower levels). Or, you can get a heated seat from Corbin for the K11 and the GLs. I got a mad idea for selling the idea of a sidecar to Angie: get a heater core from the local junkyard (and probably a rat cage as well) and put it in the hack. Now I just gotta get her to buy a hack, and figure out how to plumb it into the Wing (thinking a t-valve into the radiator hoses) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > -----Original Message----- > From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX [mailto:LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX] > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 1998 10:33 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** > > > I don't think so! > My bike is even shaking because it's so cold. Unless you've got > a heated Gold > Wing with an empty backseat, I don't think I'll be playing this game much > longer. > > The ABATE Halloween party was great! I went as Elvira's > sister... The Italian > version... I had pasta and garlic bread under my cape. Great to > finally meet > HARLEYZMYN (Barbara) and all the ABATE members from the Montgomery and > Washington Chapters! > > Ride Safely and Warmly > Lee Andrese > 98 V-Star Classic > From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:47:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA24991 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23241 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20368 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:47:21 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WEGUa02082 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:46:43 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <428768e1.363d3933@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:46:43 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 What's this talk of heated grips and heated seats? Bah... I prefer to bundle up like the Michelin Man. :) Robert "Just kidding!!" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Sun Nov 1 23:48:17 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA25001 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:48:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA23256 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:48:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (known pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA20384 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:48:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA18562; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:44:34 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:43:25 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Weekday Rides - chain To: LungHD@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <4d9248d0.363a6e30@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > Chain?..... Chain? What's a chain? ?:^| It's what you gotta convert to,to get one of those 200 width tires on the back of the Hog(tm). ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 00:00:34 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA25180 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:00:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA18667; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:56:58 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:51:34 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Its Back; Well Sort of . . . To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN wrote: > And be sure that every little thing that is wrong with (even if you did it) > gets blamed on the thief and have the insurance company pay for it. Agreed.A friend of mine had his bike stolen and was lucky enough to get it back(especially since it was still financed and he had no insurance!).He took the bike to a dealership and had them go over it with a fine tooth comb.He gave the results to the prosecutor and had the bad guy pay for everything(actually garnished his wages). The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 00:04:11 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA25213 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:04:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA18845; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:00:36 -0500 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:59:56 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Update #2 To: "Burger, Donald " cc: DC Cycles In-Reply-To: <038DA3639DCD600A*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Oct 1998, Burger, Donald wrote: > Now for the bad part, the perp is a juvenile so most likely he's going to > get off fairly easily. SH*T! Maybe you can sue the parents? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 00:13:15 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA25378 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:13:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA18898; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:09:41 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:06:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Morris Berman wrote: > 120mm is nice for direct fire. > But I'll put my 155mm indirect fire, artillary support against your 120mm > any day. And it'll blow you away :-) > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Kirk Roy wrote: > > Thanks but I'll stick to my 120mm gun... :) I'd rather not think of the > > puny 76mm jobbies at all... Ah, the sheer boredom that is friday! Ewww...slugthrowers.I'll take a nice satellite-based laser. Er,not that we have any of those. ;-} The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 02:37:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA28234 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:37:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA26126 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (known pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA22361 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:36:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA20236; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:33:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:28:39 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Weekday Rides To: LungHD@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <5b73be76.363a656a@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 30 Oct 1998 LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > Hmmm. That might explain the coal shovel that came with my bike. > *Stoking 'er up for the morning ride.* On that subject;boy do I love the jetted carb on my Dyna.I didn't bother playing with the Buells' carbs,cause it was too much of a pain.If I'd a known how much quicker they would've warmed up with proper jetting,I would've gone to the trouble.The Buells took about 5 min each to warm up and then would spit and backfire.The Dyna is ready in about 1.5-2 min and runs with no probs. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 02:45:39 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA28353 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA20273; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:42:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:37:24 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 10/31/98 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <523a463c.363bd163@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 HiCapMag@XXXXXX wrote: > The design, you mean? The helmet itself is dapper as a silk suit, and cozy as > a bear den as far as I'm concerned. I saw it in matte black with the smoked > silver-iridium plate and had to have it. Shudder.Too much like the Buell helmets for me. > And no more Miami Vice- > flashback graphics, or gloss of any kind for that matter, maligning my skull > about town. Loud(colored) helmets save lives. ;-) > But there's always gotta be a gripe: Those "quick change" sideplate gears > defy manipulation -- though I must confess to having hams for fingers. Are you raising the shield all the way before removing/installing them? I think they've got the best system around;just slide the levers down and pop the shield on/off.Way easier than the take-it-apart-with-a-bunch-of -little-pieces system my old Kiwi K16 had. 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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BE061A.A7444C60-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 07:52:29 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA03936 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:52:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AB08A7500BC; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 07:52:24 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102075430.00fafa20@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 07:55:11 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Remembering a disk lock In-Reply-To: References: <363948C2.8AE38686@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:02 PM 10/29/98 , Gil M. Nissley wrote: > Got a better idea,use the dick lock in conjunction with a >Barb Wire Cable. Souonds like you've been watching too much Pamela Lee Anderson lately. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 07:57:15 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA04024 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:57:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102125829.22516.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 04:58:29 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 04:58:29 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Intro - long To: Dale Horstman Cc: Todd Peer , sheri bierman , DC-Cycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You got it, sort of. We're either Way Up North or in Hell, not that there's a difference... North of I-10 is Up North, north of I-20 is Way Up North. And to clear up any other confusion, I'm the worlds leading expert on eating barbecue,not cooking it. ---Dale Horstman wrote: > > Professor Ray wrote: > > > > Okay, so far we have several "geographically challenged" persons here > > (PC for you can't read a map). Snake thinks this is the East (If you > > can't see the Atlantic, or at least the ICW, you ain't east) and Sheri > > thinks this is the South! (If you can't get good barbeque, and I am > > the world's leading expert on Barbeque, it ain't the South). > > So if we're not the East, and we're not the South, where are we? > Hell? (That's actually a pretty fair guess... :) > > -- > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:09:45 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04398 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:09:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102131101.20838.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:11:01 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:11:01 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Quiz OTD To: Mark Petty , "'cycles'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm glad to see that this Volvo thing is a world-wide problem, not just in the US. ---Mark Petty wrote: > > If you've got the Friday blahs, go figure out what kinda biker you > are... > > http://www.motorcycleworld.co.uk/advertorial/lloydsquiz/index.htm > > (of course, it brings to mind the old quote "England and America are two > great countries divided by a common language."*) > > -Mark > '83 V65 Magna > > *or somesuch. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:14:46 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04488 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:14:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:14:38 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 02 Nov 1998 08:14:35 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 02 Nov 1998 08:14:35 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 01D61363DB03B00E-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 01D61363DB03B00E Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <01D61363DB03B00E*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 02 Nov 1998 08:14:35 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: DC Cycles Subject: Stolen Bike Update #3 Message-Id: <01D61363DB03B00E*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> On Saturday, Glenn and I (kudos to Glenn) went to the lot to pick up the bike, it cost $125 to get the bike out of the lot, what a rip off. What was even worse was they didn't even check my ID, registration or anything. I could have just been driving by saw the bike and came back with a trailer to pick it up. All these guys cared about was getting the $125 and getting me out of the office so they could go back to drinking and sleeping. Then we took it over to Coleman's for them to estimate the damage. They think it will be fixable, bummer! I told them make sure they go over it with a fine tooth comb and include EVERYTHING that is scratched. One of the good things about having the bike dusted for prints is it makes even the small scratches show up very easily. The estimate should be ready on Wednesday afternoon so I'll keep everyone posted when I get it. Playing the price is right, my guess is $4,000 but I'll find out soon enough. Anyone out there want to buy an nice F3? Its only been stolen AND crashed one time. I didn't think so. Don B. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:19:28 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04529 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA29258 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:19:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known [199.122.55.11] [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA26606 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:19:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by animal.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4Y7ZYB1K>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Morris Berman'" , "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:18:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain True. Got me there. -----Original Message----- From: Morris Berman [mailto:mberman@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 5:20 PM To: Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO Cc: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain But how many of the good West VA roads are within firing distance of the New Jersey? :P On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO wrote: > Ah, yes, but aim the 16-inch guns (3 barrels X 3 turrets=9 total barrels) of > the USS New Jersey at a shoreline and see who blinks. Beautiful ships -- > too bad they're no more. > > Mitch > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Morris Berman [mailto:mberman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 11:28 AM > To: Kirk Roy > Cc: DC-Cycles Mailing List > Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain > > > 120mm is nice for direct fire. > But I'll put my 155mm indirect fire, artillary support against your 120mm > any day. And it'll blow you away :-) > > Note: for the sarcasm impaired...figure it out. > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Kirk Roy wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Ray wrote: > > > 30mm is closer to 1.2 inches than to .5 inch > > > 40mm is closer to 1.5 inches than to .5 inch > > > 25.4mm = one inch, > > > or if it's easier,think of a 76mm gun as a 3 incher and a 9mm as a .38 > > > calibre. > > > > Thanks but I'll stick to my 120mm gun... :) I'd rather not think of the > > puny 76mm jobbies at all... Ah, the sheer boredom that is friday! > > > > Kirk > > > > -Mb > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX > '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) > #446884 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. > -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted > <=-=-=-=-=- > > Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying > to > cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams > -Mb ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:21:36 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04606 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:21:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102132258.498.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:22:58 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:22:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Intro - long To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Exactly what part of the South is Utah? Last time I looked at a map, Utah was north of I-20. The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic. The West Coast is Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples etc. and Californy is "that other coast". ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > Ray wrote: > > > > Okay, so far we have several "geographically challenged" > > persons here (PC for you can't read a map). Snake thinks > > this is the East (If you can't see the Atlantic, or at least > > the ICW, you ain't east) > > If it's east of Denver, it IS the east coast. :) > > > and Sheri thinks this is the South! (If you can't get good > > barbeque, and I am the world's leading expert on Barbeque, > > it ain't the South). > > I am an honorary Southerner. I lived in Utah. :) > > As for BBQ, I spent the last 4 years outside of Kansas City. There is > this little BBQ place right there in Leavenworth that is the best I have > ever had. He catered all the getogethers (ie ABATE, fundraisers, etc) > at all the bars. He even sponsored our stock car (we ran at I-70 and > Lakeside Speedways, bith NASCAR tracks). > > So, I am the poster child for the "geographically challenged". > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:31:18 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA04794 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:31:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102133234.28268.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:32:34 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:32:34 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Weekday Rides - chain To: Boiade@XXXXXX, kirk@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just know about two guns on two ships that both had problems. ---Boiade@XXXXXX wrote: > > In a message dated 10/30/98 11:59:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, > raymondlucas@XXXXXX writes: > > << Those Italian > 76mm's on the other hand can fire once before they fall apart. Don't > think I'm anti-Italians, >> > BS, I happen to work for the company that now owns the former Oto-Melara and > Breda companies, now our Oto-Breda Division. > > Our 76mm and 127 mm 3 1/2 and 5 inch guns are the most used worldwide. Infact > our old 127mm (5 inch) is licensed to United Defense (formerly FMC) and is > used on most U.S. Navy ships. The United Defense built gun under our license > is now (for us) obsolete and our current gun is a 25 round per minute gun > while the old gun built under license by United Defense is still an 18 round > per minute gun. Do you know anything about artillery? > > Ciao, > > Fred > > Ciao, > > Fred > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:51:01 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05112 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:51:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102135217.11499.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:52:17 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:52:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Its Back; Well Sort of . . . To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't forget that Picasso you had bungeed to the pillion. ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN wrote: > > And be sure that every little thing that is wrong with (even if you did it) > > gets blamed on the thief and have the insurance company pay for it. > > Agreed.A friend of mine had his bike stolen and was lucky enough to > get it back(especially since it was still financed and he had no > insurance!).He took the bike to a dealership and had them go over it > with a fine tooth comb.He gave the results to the prosecutor and had > the bad guy pay for everything(actually garnished his wages). > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 08:52:32 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05122 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:52:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102135348.6284.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 05:53:48 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 05:53:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Weekday Rides - chain To: "Gil M. Nissley" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a friend who was stationed on a carrier. They bought a junker car and launched it from the catapult, he had some really cool pictures. ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Morris Berman wrote: > > 120mm is nice for direct fire. > > But I'll put my 155mm indirect fire, artillary support against your 120mm > > any day. And it'll blow you away :-) > > On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Kirk Roy wrote: > > > Thanks but I'll stick to my 120mm gun... :) I'd rather not think of the > > > puny 76mm jobbies at all... Ah, the sheer boredom that is friday! > > Ewww...slugthrowers.I'll take a nice satellite-based laser. > > Er,not that we have any of those. ;-} > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:01:05 1998 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05282 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:01:04 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id 3MIAa09167 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:00:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:00:20 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re: Intro - long Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >Exactly what part of the South is Utah? It's the southwest, and it's one of my favorite places to ride motorcycles. Too bad I can't get to it in one day anymore. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:02:59 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05292 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:02:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id JAA19362; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:02:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811021402.JAA19362@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Ray" , Subject: Re: Intro - long Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:02:22 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE063F.80765EA0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE063F.80765EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Ray > To: Marvin Heilesen ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Intro - long > Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 8:22 AM > > Exactly what part of the South is Utah? Last time I looked at a map, > Utah was north of I-20. I-80 runs right through Utah, so it qualifies as the "South". Haven't you ever heard of 'Southern Utah'? > The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal > (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic. The West Coast is > Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples etc. and Californy is "that > other coast". California is the 'Left Coast'. "God's Country" consists of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming. Everything else is designated by which direction it is from there..... Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE063F.80765EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



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> From: Ray <raymondlucas@XXXXXX>
> To: Marvin Heilesen <snake69@XXXXXX>; = dc-cycles@XXXXXX
> Subject: Re: Intro - long
> Date: = Monday, November 02, 1998 8:22 AM
>
> Exactly what part of = the South is Utah?  Last time I looked at a map,
> Utah was = north of I-20.  

I-80 runs right = through Utah, so it qualifies as the "South".  Haven't = you ever heard of 'Southern Utah'?

> = The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal =
> (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic. =  The West Coast is
> Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples = etc. and Californy is "that
> other coast".

California is = the 'Left Coast'.  "God's Country" consists of Idaho, = Montana, and Wyoming.  Everything else is designated by which = direction it is from there.....

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE063F.80765EA0-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:03:56 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05312 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:03:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13732 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:53:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:05:21 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0B7@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: leathers FS Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:05:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain This came across the race list...any smaller folks looking for leathers..... email him, not me.... 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We can accept Visa, Mastercard, American Express, Discover, and good old American Greenbacks. _________________________________________________________________ Bob Laszko Aramel Racing rml@XXXXXX PO Box 2828 WSMC/CCS/FUSA #107 Fallbrook, CA 92088 AMA #117 www.aramel.com AFM #537 (760) 728-4397 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:16:31 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05521 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaKmB-0004xo-01; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:16:11 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:14:08 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD36@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'2xracers@XXXXXX'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Great Save! [not the Redskins] Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:14:08 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain YOU GO, GIRL! : ) Great save! - Jeannette > First and foremost, I am quite happy that I didn't drop the bike. > Second, I am also quite happy that nothing was broken, scratched or > otherwise damaged. Third, I notice that my front wheel is *on* the > raised grass-covered median, between a sign post and another pole. > The rear wheel is still on the pavement, surrounded by gravel/dirt. > > I apparently managed to miss the bike that stopped in front of me, hop > a 4" curb, spin my rear tire creating an impressive dust cloud, and > then stop the bike without hitting the sign post or the pole (which > were maybe 2 feet apart). And, I didn't drop the bike (all 530+ lbs > of it!)! I *know* I couldn't pull that off again! > > Obligatory "Lesson Learned": While the lady who stopped suddenly in > front of me apologized profusely, it was my fault for following too > closely and assuming that she would go all the way across. I'm just > glad it turned out okay! > > Anita > '96 GPZ1100 (the abuse I put up with!!) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:18:09 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05539 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaKo0-0005An-01; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:18:04 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:16:01 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD37@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'George Howell'" , LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:16:00 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain GREAT riding weather has just come! hee hee Well, when it gets really cold, I use my Gerbing electric jacket liner to keep my toasty. While the peds are shivering on the sidewalks looking at me like I'm outta my mind, I'm toasty warm akin to being wrapped in an electric blanket. : ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: George Howell [SMTP:ghowell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 1998 11:40 PM > To: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** > > Like I've said, it's just now getting comfy to wear full riding gear. > $30 > heated grips, and you'll be ready to go. BTW, the new K12LT has a > heated > seat as standard on the upper trim levels (optional on lower levels). > Or, > you can get a heated seat from Corbin for the K11 and the GLs. > > ---------------------------------------- > -George Howell > ghowell@XXXXXX > georgehowell@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:24:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05635 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00090 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (known send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA27739 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102142539.24964.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 06:25:39 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:25:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The only "end of season" I have ever celebrated is the end of Hurricane Season, but I just moved up here and I'm not used to the local customs or language. Ray ---CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX wrote: > > Im up for the party if given enough notice.. and whats with this "end of > season" talk? its never the end of the season =) Im gonna rough if in the cold > all winter long. > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:41:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05837 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:41:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00325 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:41:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28095 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:40:58 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WSEBa02538 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:40:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <95058a44.363dc44d@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:40:13 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Stolen Bike Update #3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/2/98 8:20:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, Donald.Burger@XXXXXX writes: << Anyone out there want to buy an nice F3? Its only been stolen AND crashed one time. I didn't think so. >> Offer it at salvage value and its SOLD. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:44:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05934 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00389 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:44:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28200 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:44:01 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WEBCa02301 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:43:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:43:23 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: WOW, There is a god!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Great to have you back out there Sean! Have you tinkered with your DJPC yet? Mine will be here on Wednesday (got it secondhand for $275!) and I was curious if you have played with it yet. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:51:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA06045 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:51:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00459 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:51:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28395 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:51:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA03493; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:50:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102145051.RELB20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:50:51 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: More Thievery Was: Just Back from the Storage Lot . . . by Metro Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:49:13 -0500 Message-ID: <000901be066f$f5291780$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Well, I was working from the naive perspective that everyone (100%) of the people on this list are good and would be on their best behaviour in someone elses home. I too had a party one time, my roommate at the time invited an s-load of people and unfortunately for us both, he didn't know some of the people they invited. Long story short, 12 cds missing, half his and half mine. Doesn't mean I won't have parties in the future, but I think I'll limit the guests to people I know and trust. Oh well. T > > Sorry to hear about your liner Todd. Thats the shitty thing > about holding a > party. I had a party at my place once. Ended up about $75 > poorer and 10 CDs > short. > I NEVER hold parties again. > > Jack > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 09:53:20 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06055 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:53:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102145424.8784.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 06:54:24 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:54:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Intro - long To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a friend who thinks anything to the right of the Pathetic Coast Highway is the East Coast. I have another friend who got out of the military and never went north of the Seven Mile Bridge again (40 miles up the overseas highway from Key West FL). I have another friend that drove to Key West and said "That Seven Mile Bridge must be ten miles long!" Yes, he really said that. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > > > ---------- > > From: Ray > > To: Marvin Heilesen ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Intro - long > > Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 8:22 AM > > > > Exactly what part of the South is Utah? Last time I looked at a map, > > Utah was north of I-20. > > I-80 runs right through Utah, so it qualifies as the "South". Haven't you > ever heard of 'Southern Utah'? > > > The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal > > (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic. The West Coast is > > Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples etc. and Californy is "that > > other coast". > > California is the 'Left Coast'. "God's Country" consists of Idaho, > Montana, and Wyoming. Everything else is designated by which direction it > is from there..... > > Snake



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> From: Ray <raymondlucas@XXXXXX>
> To: Marvin Heilesen <snake69@XXXXXX>; dc-cycles@XXXXXX
> Subject: Re: Intro - long
> Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 8:22 AM
>
> Exactly what part of the South is Utah?  Last time I looked at a map,
> Utah was north of I-20.  

I-80 runs right through Utah, so it qualifies as the "South".  Haven't you ever heard of 'Southern Utah'?

> The East Coast is that thin stretch of land between the Intracoastal
> (not in"ter"coastal) Waterway and the Atlantic.  The West Coast is
> Tampa, Sarasota, Clearwater, Naples etc. and Californy is "that
> other coast".

California is the 'Left Coast'.  "God's Country" consists of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming.  Everything else is designated by which direction it is from there.....

Snake

_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:00:29 1998 Return-Path: tgimer@XXXXXX Received: from cusrva.cua.edu ([136.242.10.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06218 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:00:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smart.net ([136.242.149.159]) by cua.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29119) with ESMTP id <01J3OZYZ4LY490MWMP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:59:50 EST Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:04:45 -0500 From: Tom Gimer Subject: Post classifieds To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <363DCA0D.A14FEDC@smart.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit To anyone with some spare cash who is looking for a great bike at an excellent price: there is a black '95 Suzuki RF900 in today's post for $4900/obo. Just a heads up to potential buyers. -- Tom Gimer From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:16:56 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06436 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:16:55 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811021516.KAA06436@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:16:47 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Intro - long Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:14:10 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) AMEN to that.. of course, little bits of Utah, Colorado and Canada (hehe.. how'd Canada get named?  2 of em were sitting round thinkin.. one said C eh, N eh, D eh?)  are included in "God's Country" too..  Man I miss those roads..   Brian ('nother proper westerner) -----Original Message----- California is the 'Left Coast'.  "God's Country" consists of Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming.  Everything else is designated by which direction it is from there..... Snake From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:29:50 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06633 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:29:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19730 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:19:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:31:16 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0B9@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:31:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Some of this will be a repeat of the message I sent out last week when the dc-cycles list server was going haywire.... Well, I recently was selected by the Coast Guard to attend post-graduate school as my next duty rotation. Today, I sent in the acceptance letter, effectively commiting myself to another 8 years in the CG... This decision is going to make it very difficult for me to advance my racing career much farther than the club level, but I'll still try hard for it. Besides, this will ensure the bills stayed paid and maybe help keep enough $$ around to do more racing. I'll be attending the University of Michigan (up there in the frozen tundra land) starting next summer. Basically, that means Pen and I will be moving sometime around mid April to early May depending on how much leave I have to burn off...I fully intend to make every Summit Point race next season, so I'll still be in the area on occsasion. Ans since the inlaws live in Woodbridge now, I'm sure we'll be down this way on long holidays and school breaks, etc., so you'll know I'll be bringing a bike to run out and hide in the back roads with :) The one good thing about going to umich next year is that I may get to move up my initiation to AMA racing by a season. If I can get to a club level race or to at Road America or Brainerd to familiarize myself with the track, I am planning on attempting the AMA 750 Supersport races at each of those tracks!! Woohoo..getting blown away by the big boys... Collin From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:32:24 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06674 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA06434; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:31:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102153140.RSZE20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:31:40 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "George Howell" , , Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:30:02 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01be0675$a8dc4220$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <004201be061a$d76fd760$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Importance: Normal > Like I've said, it's just now getting comfy to wear full riding gear. $30 > heated grips, and you'll be ready to go. BTW, the new K12LT has a heated > seat as standard on the upper trim levels (optional on lower levels). Or, > you can get a heated seat from Corbin for the K11 and the GLs. > > I got a mad idea for selling the idea of a sidecar to Angie: get a heater > core from the local junkyard (and probably a rat cage as well) > and put it in > the hack. Now I just gotta get her to buy a hack, and figure out how to > plumb it into the Wing (thinking a t-valve into the radiator hoses) > > ---------------------------------------- > -George Howell Why don't you just get a nice car and quit trying to torture the poor girl :) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:35:21 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06762 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:35:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20113 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:24:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0BA@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: luggage bags Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain With a trip to the hardware store tonight for some onger bolts, the Nonfango hard bags I bought from Colleen will be mounted on the Maxim. Pretty sad when I have more invested in the luggage than the bike though :) Now all I need to do is find a good cheap windshield for the bike and it's ready to be a full fledged baby tourer!! For those of you at the party that thought I looked really weird on the Maxim (opposed to those that just think I look really weird anyhow), just imagine me with a windshield, saddlebags and a trunk!!! he he he... no more backpack for me!! Thanks again to Colleen for having cool stuff at great prices...Check out her stuff at www.leatherexchange.com Looked like she had some really nice pants and jackets when we were there the other night! Collin From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:37:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06774 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA01166 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from newfrontiers.nfis.com (known [206.151.91.4] [206.151.91.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29735 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:36:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from nfis.com (pub61.hunt2.nfis.com [206.151.91.161]) by newfrontiers.nfis.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA28995; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:42:04 -0500 Message-ID: <363DD173.9D811C73@nfis.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:36:19 -0500 From: Louis Tweed X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "balt-cycles@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Kawasaki part Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I friend from work handed me a Kawasaki part the other day. Somehow he ended up with a turn signal for a Kawasaki. Kawasaki Part Number 23040-1157. If anyone has a use for this part please email me at ltweed@XXXXXX Pay for the shipping and it is yours. Louis From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:43:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06871 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:43:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA01271 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:43:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from msexchange.calibresys.com (known calibresys.com [208.206.170.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29978 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:43:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by calibresys.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:45:49 -0500 Message-ID: <282883058DC6D11194D300609709600BBC3247@calibresys.com> From: Stan Hopkins To: Louis Tweed , balt-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Kawasaki part Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:45:48 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Please take me off your mailing list. I'm on by mistake. -----Original Message----- From: Louis Tweed [mailto:ltweed@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 10:36 AM To: balt-cycles@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Kawasaki part I friend from work handed me a Kawasaki part the other day. Somehow he ended up with a turn signal for a Kawasaki. Kawasaki Part Number 23040-1157. If anyone has a use for this part please email me at ltweed@XXXXXX Pay for the shipping and it is yours. Louis From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 10:52:14 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06998 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:52:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id KAA06536 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:52:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811021552.KAA06536@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:51:33 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE064E.C1BA9980" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE064E.C1BA9980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > GREAT riding weather has just come! hee hee > Well, when it gets really cold, I use my Gerbing electric jacket liner > to keep my toasty. While the peds are shivering on the sidewalks > looking at me like I'm outta my mind, I'm toasty warm akin to being > wrapped in an electric blanket. : ) I don't mind riding in the cold, but I found out this weekend I need some new gloves. The "Wal-Mart Specials" do not keep out the cold at 80. Now to worry about my 12,000 mile maintenance. Not bad for a 7 month old bike..... :) ------=_NextPart_000_01BE064E.C1BA9980 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> GREAT riding weather has just = come!  hee hee
> Well, when it gets really cold, I use my = Gerbing electric jacket liner
> to keep my toasty.  While the = peds are shivering on the sidewalks
> looking at me like I'm outta = my mind, I'm toasty warm akin to being
> wrapped in an electric = blanket.  : )

I don't mind riding in = the cold, but I found out this weekend I need some new gloves.  The = "Wal-Mart Specials" do not keep out the cold at 80.

Now = to worry about my 12,000 mile maintenance.  Not bad for a 7 month = old bike.....  :)

------=_NextPart_000_01BE064E.C1BA9980-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:06:57 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07219 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA11693 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:06:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981102110513.00acfcc0@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:07:04 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0B9@MSCEX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Collin -- Lots of luck! Grad school will be the best & worst time of your life. It certainly was for me. The hardest work I ever did, education-wise, but also the most rewarding. I'm planning on spending some quality time next season @ Summit Point. A friend of mine is moving from 500's to 600's and trying to convince me I need to start racing 500's. We'll see... --w Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB-750 "Extra Sled" I've never been to good with names But I remember faces... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:13:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07316 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:13:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01763 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:13:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01140 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:13:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-03.dial.nova.org (ra1-03.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.163]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA18837 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:13:41 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:19:30 GMT Message-ID: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want that) but simply a just thing to do. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:14:19 1998 Return-Path: mdpetty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07327 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <46K8TLT7>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:10:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: "'cycles'" Subject: For holloween Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:10:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Most memorable costume of the night... JP, the 10 year old from next door, who's dad crashed his Harley a few months back (while wearing a t-shirt and beanie, but is doing much better now), went as a dead biker. I really can't imagine how he got his mother to let him do it. -Mark '83 V65 Magna From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:19:30 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07388 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:19:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AB8BBA027E; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:19:23 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102112004.01f042d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:20:56 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** In-Reply-To: <000d01be0675$a8dc4220$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> References: <004201be061a$d76fd760$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:30 AM 11/2/98 , Todd Peer wrote: >Why don't you just get a nice car and quit trying to torture the poor girl >:) Heathen! Philistine! Off with his head! :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:19:40 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07391 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:19:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AB80BA027E; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:19:12 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102111844.01f035e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:19:39 -0500 To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0B9@MSCEX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:31 AM 11/2/98 , Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: >Well, I recently was selected by the Coast Guard to attend post-graduate >school as my next duty rotation. wow! congratulations. >The one good thing about going to umich next year is that I may get to move >up my initiation to AMA racing by a season. What I want to hear about is the ICE racing! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:22:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07493 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:22:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01891 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (known imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01449 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:22:35 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id FFDUa02328; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:21:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:21:30 EST To: gnissley@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Weekday Rides Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 >On that subject;boy do I love the jetted carb on my Dyna.I didn't bother >playing with the Buells' carbs,cause it was too much of a pain.If I'd a >known how much quicker they would've warmed up with proper jetting,I >would've gone to the trouble.The Buells took about 5 min each to warm up >and then would spit and backfire.The Dyna is ready in about 1.5-2 min >and runs with no probs. Yeah, rejetting the CV does wonders. I installed a S.E. aircleaner kit & DynoJet ThunderSlide in the CV & got major improvements all around. Warm up is faster than stock CV w/stock airbox and has more power from the basement on up. With the V&H pipes the engine oil temp runs about 10 degrees cooler too. Lung -Buying cheap beer to pay for that wide tire kit..... anyone have the antidote for Pabst Blue Ribbon?- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:26:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07516 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:26:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01929 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com (known piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01560 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:26:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id AD41152028E; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:26:41 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102113041.01f09020@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:31:02 -0500 To: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy), dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:19 AM 11/2/98 , Kirk Roy wrote: >Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party >I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to >make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was >confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd >have to foot the whole bill. ... This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want >that) but simply a just thing to do. I'm in. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:27:13 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07589 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:27:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102162720.941.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:27:20 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:27:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Intro - long To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ever hear the Canadian alphabet? A B, eh C, eh ... ---"McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > > AMEN to that.. of course, little bits of Utah, Colorado and Canada (hehe.. > how'd Canada get named?  2 of em were sitting round thinkin.. one said C eh, > N eh, D eh?)  are included in "God's Country" too..  Man I miss those > roads.. >   > Brian ('nother proper westerner) > > -----Original Message----- > > California is the 'Left Coast'.  "God's Country" consists of Idaho, Montana, > and Wyoming.  Everything else is designated by which direction it is from > there..... > > Snake > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:31:21 1998 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07641 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:31:19 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3ZPWa02538 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:30:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:30:44 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: ice racing (was Big Plans...some moto) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >What I want to hear about is the ICE racing! Once I saw a promotion poster for this that said "you go down, you come up ground-round" How do you think Vanson perforates their leathers? Colleen From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:32:53 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07661 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA02069 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:32:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01783 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:32:46 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WLHHa07909 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:31:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:31:47 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 You can count me in! I'm suprised someone would steal that, but I'll chip in to replace it. Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 11:35:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07751 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:35:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA02130 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:35:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA01877 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:35:25 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B0.005AA0C2 ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:29:53 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B0.00595632.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:29:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want that) but simply a just thing to do. Sounds like a great idea. You can count me in for this. Steve From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:07:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08215 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:07:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02606 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:07:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03164 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:07:31 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WTRHa10441 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:06:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <41898f7a.363de6b3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:06:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Im in too. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:25:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08454 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:25:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02832 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net (known mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03649 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:25:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from brat.knowhere.net (port26.annex1.radix.net [209.48.225.26]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA01242; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:24:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363DEB45.D6D@radix.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:26:29 -0500 From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Reply-To: dreamer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Roy CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kirk Roy wrote: > > Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party > I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to > make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was > confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd > have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party > and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace > Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this > thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for > our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want > that) but simply a just thing to do. I agree 100%!! Count me in for my share. Stealing Todd's liner was a really shabby thing to do, especially to a party host! Dawn '96 Virago 1100 Special, Knowmad From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:29:25 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08544 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:29:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA02894 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (known usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03827 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:29:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:28:52 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 02 Nov 1998 12:28:51 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 02 Nov 1998 12:28:51 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 018A8363DEBD3007-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 018A8363DEBD3007 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <018A8363DEBD3007*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 02 Nov 1998 12:28:51 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: "(Kirk Roy)" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Message-Id: <018A8363DEBD3007*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> What address should I mail a check to? Don B -----Original Message----- From: (Kirk Roy) [SMTP:kirk@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:32 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Todd's jacket liner Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want that) but simply a just thing to do. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:34:37 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA08593 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:34:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102173558.8466.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:35:58 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:35:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: My Bikes and I Are Looking For A Home To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My seven bikes and I want to move sometime between Dec 15 98 and Feb 15 99 (giving my current home 30 days notice). If you have room for an extra person and bikes and need rent money, or if you want to search out a place together, let me know. My hobbies are AHRMA and WERA roadracing and I am the world's leading expert on barbecue. If you know of anyone interested please pass this on. Contact me off-list at rlucas@XXXXXX or 410 762 6710 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:40:00 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08686 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:39:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA28839 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:39:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981102123826.00ad3400@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:40:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: HTML E-mail Messages (no M/C) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gang-- For those of us who are using e-mail programs that do not process HTML code, please do not send messages to the list with text formatting (bold/italics, font size or color changes). These messages are difficult to read with some e-mail clients. Thanks. wes Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB-750 "Extra Sled" I've never been to good with names But I remember faces... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:41:43 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08699 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:41:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA29841 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:41:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981102124120.00accde0@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:41:53 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" me 2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:46:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08859 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03193 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from dadc012.army.mil (known Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA04263 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:45:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by pentagon-dadc012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:42:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'kirk@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:42:51 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Kirk, great idea! Count me in as well. Glenn > Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party > I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to > make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was > confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd > have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party > and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace > Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this > thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for > our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want > that) but simply a just thing to do. > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 12:52:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA08967 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:52:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA03288 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:52:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from netgate.anent.com (known netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA04420 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:52:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from bruce ([208.195.115.37] (may be forged)) by netgate.anent.com (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00550; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 12:55:05 -0500 Message-ID: <01c001be0689$89e7ab20$2573c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "Kirk Roy" , Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:52:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 I'm with ya! Just let me know! >Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party >I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to >make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was >confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd >have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party >and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace >Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this >thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for >our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want >that) but simply a just thing to do. > >Kirk > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 13:02:46 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09099 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:02:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA18528; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:02:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102180200.TTMP20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:02:00 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , "DCCycles List" Subject: RE: My Bikes and I Are Looking For A Home Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:00:21 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01be068a$a8a08c20$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981102173558.8466.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal Ray, you sound like quite a character. I actually do have room in my home for a roomie, but my garage is suffering from NFSS (No Floor Space Syndrome). As soon as I can sell off a couple....well damn. I don't even think I could comfortably fit six bikes in there! Todd > > > My seven bikes and I want to move sometime between Dec 15 98 and Feb > 15 99 (giving my current home 30 days notice). If you have room for > an extra person and bikes and need rent money, or if you want to > search out a place together, let me know. My hobbies are AHRMA and > WERA roadracing and I am the world's leading expert on barbecue. If > you know of anyone interested please pass this on. > > Contact me off-list at rlucas@XXXXXX or 410 762 6710 > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 13:08:23 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09195 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:08:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981102180939.26416.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:09:39 PST Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: My Bikes and I Are Looking For A Home To: Todd Peer , DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How big is your backyard? I'm willing to build a garage as part of the rent. I thought you lived in Richmond or something? ---Todd Peer wrote: > > Ray, you sound like quite a character. I actually do have room in my home > for a roomie, but my garage is suffering from NFSS (No Floor Space > Syndrome). As soon as I can sell off a couple....well damn. I don't even > think I could comfortably fit six bikes in there! > > Todd > > > > > > > My seven bikes and I want to move sometime between Dec 15 98 and Feb > > 15 99 (giving my current home 30 days notice). If you have room for > > an extra person and bikes and need rent money, or if you want to > > search out a place together, let me know. My hobbies are AHRMA and > > WERA roadracing and I am the world's leading expert on barbecue. If > > you know of anyone interested please pass this on. > > > > Contact me off-list at rlucas@XXXXXX or 410 762 6710 > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > DO YOU YAHOO!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 13:51:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09929 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:51:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA04273 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:50:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (known imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA06096 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:50:51 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id WLZFa09167 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:49:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6e063c54.363dfecc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:49:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: ERC Class Attendees - range Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 I still think we should just use the pentagon parking lot. Its public property so there is no way in hell that they can tell us to go away. As long as we try to seclude ourselves a bit from the other people and show a good example we should be just fine. I used to work at the pentagon and REGULARLY saw things of this type being done on the weekends (mostly to the tune of street hockey games where they took up the WHOLE parking lot at times). I really dont think anyone would mind. And if they do the worst thing that can happen is the range will be no more. Better than not having it in the first place! Just IMHO.... Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:03:19 1998 Return-Path: tgimer@XXXXXX Received: from torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10169 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from cusrva.cua.edu ([136.242.10.11]) by torrentnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12666 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:03:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from 136.242.148.14 ([136.242.148.14]) by cua.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29119) with SMTP id <01J3P8GW6V9I90MWL4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:02:34 EST Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:07:05 -0500 From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <363E02D4.DFB@smart.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN wrote: > > Kirk, great idea! Count me in as well. > I was hoping that the prick who stole Todd's liner would just drop it off on his doorstep while Todd was at work, but that seems unlikely at this point. So, now not only has someone who enjoyed the food/beer/company at Todd's party pissed off Todd, you've now made it necessary for the other guests to chip in for a new liner for him. I will be happy to help buy the new liner for Todd, but even happier when the thief is exposed.......and you know the truth will eventually come out. -- Tom Gimer From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:05:43 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10255 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:05:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-122-22.s276.tnt14.brd.erols.com [207.172.122.22]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA13506; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:05:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006801be069c$1b218900$167aaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , "'dc'" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:05:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Congrats on the appointment to UM.....8 more years huh...I have 3yrs left in the Navy myself...you should be at retirement elig. about that time huh...good deal for you in IMHO.....good luck with the racing bit too...I enjoyed watching you at Summit....and hope to see you there next year..if you keep your web page up..maybe you can keep us posted with details on there......I have exactly 30 days left of riding before my insurance winters over...not covered for collison from NOV 31 to Feb 29, Leap year, i think, so i'l be putting the Katana in the storage shed..only to ride it around the hood to keep the battery up.......hope to do atleast one cold ride before everyone puts up their horses for the winter......cya....Les Katana 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:21:04 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10567 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:21:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06072; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:19:36 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0C9@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Wes Fleming'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:19:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain You mean you need convincing!!!???!?!!?! If you have even one tiny little competitive bone in your body, you will love it and become addicted. Even if you don't have any competitive bones, but you love to ride a bike to its full potential, you will love it and become addicted. Even if you jsut want to be able to ride a bike fast without any worries of gravel, dogs, cges, etc. you will love it and become addicted!! There's nothing quite like the rush of scraping the ground at 130 mph (and not be crashing), or coming around a corner with your helmet a mere inch or so from touching another guys exhaust pipe (till you get a tailpipe backfire right in the face..owweee that was loud!), Or the first time that knee slider taps into the pavement and has that wonderful rumble sound/feel as you come all the way through the corner without lifting it off the ground, Or coming out of a corner with the rear wheel sliding and the front tire in the air (not as common on a 500, but it is possible)...And above all, there's nothing quite like dicing hard with someone and beating them to the checkered flag (and that goes for the podium all the way down to the battle between last place and next to last place!! Ok, so I guess I'm convinced :) Are you yet?? Check out the photo gallery at: http://www.seapup.com for some great racing pics...then head to our site: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350 for some mroe racing action and race reports, then follow our links to "So you want to become a RoadRacer.." for some more awesome reading... Racing is fairly cheap on a 500, so i highly recommend at least getting out and trying it once...if nothing else, borrow a bike and go out for one of cycle sports track days... it's not quite the same as racing, but it will definitely give you a feel for what it's like to be on the track... Brian/Joe/Jay, your turn to chime in...tell us how boring and uneventful your first race weekend was :) Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: Wes Fleming [SMTP:sled@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:19 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto > > > > I'm planning on spending some quality time next season @ Summit Point. A > friend of mine is moving from 500's to 600's and trying to convince me I > need to start racing 500's. We'll see... > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:28:49 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10702 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:28:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by pentagon-dadc012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:25:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'Leslie N. Forewright'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:25:16 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the block which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole winter. Glenn > there......I have exactly 30 days left of riding before my insurance > winters > over...not covered for collison from NOV 31 to Feb 29, Leap year, i think, > so i'l be putting the Katana in the storage shed..only to ride it around > the > hood to keep the battery up.......hope to do atleast one cold ride before > everyone puts up their horses for the winter......cya....Les Katana 750 > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:45:29 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA10966 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:44:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA12714; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:43:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102194342.UXJN20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:43:42 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Tom Gimer" , Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:42:02 -0500 Message-ID: <002101be0698$dd3e5d00$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <363E02D4.DFB@smart.net> Importance: Normal Well Tom (and everyone else), I'm still hoping (of best scenarios) that the liner was borrowed, the borrower has been off-list for a while and simply hasn't had the opportunity to return it. I'd believe it! Remember how naive I can be ;) I'll look again tonight, but I've looked and looked all over my house and car, in cabinets, and drawers hoping some joker just hid it. Honestly, at one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =:0 Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud gun :) BTW, No one should feel like it is necessary to buy me a new liner. I won't say no, but I don't want anyone to feel obliged. Thanks to everyone who has pledged so far, and special thanks to Kirk for thinking of it. What a guy! I've been wrapping up the past few days to keep warm with an old fleecy and a windbreaker. Works, but it feels like I'm wearing four neckties all tied too tight =8-Q Todd Tom Gimer wrote: > Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN wrote: > > > > Kirk, great idea! Count me in as well. > > > > I was hoping that the prick who stole Todd's liner would just drop it > off on his doorstep while Todd was at work, but that seems unlikely at > this point. > > So, now not only has someone who enjoyed the food/beer/company at Todd's > party pissed off Todd, you've now made it necessary for the other guests > to chip in for a new liner for him. > > I will be happy to help buy the new liner for Todd, but even happier > when the thief is exposed.......and you know the truth will eventually > come out. > > -- > Tom Gimer > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:56:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11097 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:56:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA05493 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:56:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA08223 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:56:38 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B0.006D0CD6 ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:51:07 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: "Todd Peer" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B0.006CEB0D.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:51:02 -0500 Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hey Todd. Thanks for the cool idea! ;-) Steve Honestly, at one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =:0 Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud gun :) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 14:57:05 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11162 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:57:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08816; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:58:13 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0CB@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:58:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:56 PM > To: Tom Gimer; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Honestly, at > one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan > blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =:0 > Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud gun > :) > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:01:26 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11308 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:01:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811022001.PAA11308@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:00:59 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:58:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) > Brian/Joe/Jay, your turn to chime in...tell us how boring and > uneventful > your first race weekend was :) Man, I hated it - was the worst.. I didn't sleep at all the night before, got up way early.. wandered around looking for the leathers I'd borrowed (granted, I found out I was going to take the race school at like 6pm Friday night).. they weren't there.. got the bike prepped.. got myself ready.. hurry up and wait.. 10am.. leathers get there.. opps, missed all the skid-pad exercise (I hear its dull and borring) - anyway.. afternoon.. learned 'stuff' and finally got on the borrowed bike to get on-course.. borring for the 'parade laps' to figure out where the corners were (but I also have something like 30 days worth of corner-working at Summit under my belt too). Mock-race.. borrowed bike, borrowed leathers.. umm.. I'm gonna take it easy.. went from starting lap of 1:41 (sloooowww..) and took off about 1.5 seconds each lap there after.. getting down to almost respectable levels of 1:35 - nothing compaired to Collins 1:24's or whatever his school laps were - but it wasn't my bike, and it was a 600 compaired to a 750.. I can't begin to describe the feeling of actually racing someone.. setting your sights on them and watching them get reeled in.. braking just a little bit later, and a little bit harder.. getting on the gas a little sooner.. feeling the speed go up a little at a time.. seeing the tail of their bike get closer and closer.. looking for them to make some mistake, drift wide, cut an entry to tight.. anything.. so you can show them a wheel.. or a while bike.. Knowing that someone's bihind you and wanting with every bone in their body to pass you back.. and doing everything in your power to keep that from happening....... yea, it's pretty dull.. Noone'd really be interested in it.. serious.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:07:50 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11411 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-43-2.s2.tnt22.brd.erols.com [207.172.43.2]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA14552; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:07:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:07:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the block which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole winter. Glenn I thought about that too......Cycle Sport has them for around $39.00....why would it hurt it more to ride it...just curious....other than carbon build up and maybe moisture in the carbs..i'm not sure.....I have always lived where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:10:01 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11421 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:09:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-10.dial.nova.org (ra1-10.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.170]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA23432 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:09:54 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:15:46 GMT Message-ID: <364312a7.76339042@beta.nova.org> References: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0C9@MSCEX> In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0C9@MSCEX> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:19:34 -0500 , "Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: >You mean you need convincing!!!???!?!!?! If you have even one tiny = little >competitive bone in your body, you will love it and become addicted. It's that whole addicted part that keeps me from giving it a try. Maybe when my kids are a little older and I can afford the likely addiction... I don't doubt it'd be pure thrills much of the time. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:13:14 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11502 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:13:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaQLd-0007BZ-00; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:13:09 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:11:04 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:11:05 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [SMTP:cfagan@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:58 PM > To: 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:18:21 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11544 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:19:41 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:19:02 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Great minds think alike. I was just getting ready to reply when yours = beat me to it. Oh well. Just have to come up with something else. :-D = Like Collin said, when's the next party? :-) Although, I've hung my dogs toys from the ceiling fan before and let 'em = fly. That's always fun and keeps her occupied for a while. hehe No = offense all you dog lovers out there. Scooter >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/02/98 02:58PM >>> Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:56 PM > To: Tom Gimer; dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Honestly, at > one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan > blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =3D:0 > Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud = gun > :) >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:22:39 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11649 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:22:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10702; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:23:59 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0CD@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Kirk Roy'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:23:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain It depends on the type bike you run and how many races you enter. Racing a stock EX500, Hawk, GS500, etc. you can race pretty cheap. A good set of race comp tires will most likely last you an entire season. One to two sets of brake pads, and pump gas... Racing four races per weekend will run you about $150 in entry fees....If you really want a lot of track time race the GT3 which you would be competitive in, and also race GT2 (you wouldn't be all that competitive in this class, but it's twice the track time as a sprint race for about the same cost). > -----Original Message----- > From: Kirk Roy [SMTP:kirk@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:19 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto > > > It's that whole addicted part that keeps me from giving it a try. > Maybe when my kids are a little older and I can afford the likely > addiction... I don't doubt it'd be pure thrills much of the time. > > Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:24:02 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11667 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10797; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:25:20 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0CE@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'O'Brien, Jeannette'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:25:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Not much into football, but a party with bikers is a party with bikers!!! In my best taco bell dog voice: "I am there"... > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:24 PM > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG; 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:24:10 1998 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11676 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by pentagon-dadc012.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:21:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: "'Leslie N. Forewright'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:21:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) For starters just a quick run around the block probably isn't going to do your battery any good (it might even make it weaker). Secondly a quick run isn't going to burn off any condensation buildup. Glenn > I thought about that too......Cycle Sport has them for around > $39.00....why > would it hurt it more to ride it...just curious....other than carbon build > up and maybe moisture in the carbs..i'm not sure.....I have always lived > where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:24:44 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11692 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-43-2.s2.tnt22.brd.erols.com [207.172.43.2]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23742 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: honda question Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Now don't get me wrong Honda owners...my first bike was a 78 Honda XR80..loved it and now I own an 88 Honda NX250 dual sport for the off road...but I have asked a few Honda owners what the difference is between the F models...i've seen F1's and now the new F4 is in "American Road Racing Mag"....is this simply a year model code or is there an actual dif. in the setup and performance of the bikes...oddly enough I never think of this question when I am around people on rides....on the F series bikes...but I have today off, so I'm sitting at home doing laundry and putting my lil bikes carb back together.....fun huh...I don't do Mondays...I work 4 : 10 hour days the rest of the week....just wondering what scoop on the Hondas where..not that I would own anything but a Suzuki....hehehehehehehe.....the Kat is my fourth Suzuk and my favorite so far...although I miss my old RM250 everyday.......Thanxx Les 750 Kat... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:27:22 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11798 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A57199023C; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:26:25 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102153008.01efbdf0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:32:11 -0500 To: "Leslie N. Forewright" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Cc: "'DC Cycles'" In-Reply-To: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:07 PM 11/2/98 , Leslie N. Forewright wrote: >Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the block >which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole winter. >Glenn > >I thought about that too......Cycle Sport has them for around $39.00....why >would it hurt it more to ride it...just curious....other than carbon build >up and maybe moisture in the carbs..i'm not sure.....I have always lived >where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? The concern here, I'd say, is that the ride is just "around the block". 20 miles or so would be better, to warm everything up, and particularly to boil off the water that has likely condensed in your engine, transmission, rear drive (and whatever other parts you have). Very short rides are bad for motor vehicles - that's why stop & go driving and deliveries are so hard on vehicles. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:27:22 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11797 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A57099023C; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:26:24 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981102152924.01f1e740@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:29:55 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sounds good. Steve Beck and I will bring the potatoes. :-) Chris Norloff At 03:11 PM 11/2/98 , O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... >Any yeas? > >- Jeannette > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [SMTP:cfagan@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:58 PM >> To: 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX >> Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner >> >> Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) >> >> From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:28:47 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11826 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:28:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA25623 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:28:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981102152825.00abd5d0@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:28:54 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: Re: ERC Class Attendees - range In-Reply-To: <6e063c54.363dfecc@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yeah -- the worst they can do is chase us off, right? --w At 13:49 02-11-98 , WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: >I still think we should just use the pentagon parking lot. Its public >property so there is no way in hell that they can tell us to go away. As long >as we try to seclude ourselves a bit from the other people and show a good >example we should be just fine. I used to work at the pentagon and REGULARLY >saw things of this type being done on the weekends (mostly to the tune of >street hockey games where they took up the WHOLE parking lot at times). I >really dont think anyone would mind. And if they do the worst thing that can >happen is the range will be no more. Better than not having it in the first >place! >Just IMHO.... > >Jack Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB-750 "Extra Sled" I've never been to good with names But I remember faces... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:36:42 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11960 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:36:39 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA28306; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:37:56 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma027943; Mon, 2 Nov 98 15:37:09 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1T00IXKAJX8E@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:35:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B0.0070D2B0 ; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:32:19 -0500 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:32:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: "Leslie N. Forewright" Cc: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" , "'DC Cycles'" Message-id: <852566B0.0070B69E.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Les, If you are in the Wash area, you still do ... --chris From: "Leslie N. Forewright" Date: 11/02/98 09:07:16 PM GMT Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto --snip-- .....I have always lived where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:37:06 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA11969 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:36:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA17309; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:25:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981102202425.VLQV20084@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:24:25 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:22:46 -0500 Message-ID: <002801be069e$8d811900$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Importance: Normal Yea! > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [mailto:jlobrien@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:11 PM > To: 'Fagan, Collin LTJG'; 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? > > - Jeannette > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [SMTP:cfagan@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:58 PM > > To: 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > > > Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:39:38 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA11989 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:41:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:40:47 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible = Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 03:11PM >>> Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [SMTP:cfagan@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 2:58 PM > To: 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:40:21 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12012 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:40:18 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA29000; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:39:20 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma028607; Mon, 2 Nov 98 15:37:59 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1T00K0BAKQQX@XXXXXX>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:36:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B0.0070DE65 ; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:32:49 -0500 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:33:44 -0500 Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" Cc: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B0.0070CB95.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL That depends ... who's playing? --chris To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , 'Todd Peer' , dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" Date: 11/02/98 08:11:05 PM GMT Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:42:38 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12106 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaQo0-00042e-00; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:28 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:40:21 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD63@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, "O'Brien, Jeannette" Subject: RE: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:40:20 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Ok, cool, sounds like there's enough interest. I'll give you all more details when planning is more underway. BTW, I don't care about the superbowl myself, just using it as an excuse to party! ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [SMTP:SRUSH@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:41 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; todd.b.peer@XXXXXX; > cfagan@XXXXXX; jlobrien@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible > Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. > > Scooter > > >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 03:11PM > >>> > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? > > - Jeannette > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:43:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12116 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:43:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06297 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA09903 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:55 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WTTJa13872 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54a3802c.363e1921@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:42:09 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: honda question F1-F4 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 I recently found out the difference after receiving a nifty little fold out poster/brochure on the new F4. (This can be obtained by going to the Honda website...it's pretty and free! ) The Hurricane started the line in 1987, and the CBR600F came out in 1990. The F2 came out in 1991, the F3 in '95, and the F4 just came in for '99. The new F4 seems like a fun bike....110 Hp on the dyno, and that doesn't include ram-air power boost. Yikes. Each succesive F denotes changes more radical than the usual year to year changes; better handling, power, etc....Answer your questions? -Sean Jordan '83 Interceptor From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:46:40 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12175 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:46:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA08608; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:47:01 -0500 Message-ID: <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:43:43 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Leslie N. Forewright" CC: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leslie N. Forewright wrote: >.....I have always lived > where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? In the 15 years since I've started riding, so have I. :-) -- Leon From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:46:50 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12183 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:46:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:48:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:47:41 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I knew you had an alterior motive. ;-) BTW I don't care too much for it = either. Unless the Steelers are playing. :-D Scooter >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 03:40PM >>> Ok, cool, sounds like there's enough interest. I'll give you all more details when planning is more underway. BTW, I don't care about the superbowl myself, just using it as an excuse to party! ; ) - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [SMTP:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:41 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; todd.b.peer@XXXXXX; > cfagan@XXXXXX; jlobrien@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible > Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. >=20 > Scooter >=20 > >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 03:11PM > >>> > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? >=20 > - Jeannette >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:47:08 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA12194 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:47:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:48:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:48:31 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Yo quero Taco Bell? Scooter >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/02/98 03:25PM >>> Not much into football, but a party with bikers is a party with bikers!!! = In my best taco bell dog voice: "I am there"... > -----Original Message----- > From: O'Brien, Jeannette [SMTP:jlobrien@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:24 PM > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG; 'Todd Peer'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:47:31 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12204 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:47:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaQso-00051f-00; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:47:26 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:45:22 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD64@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Chris Norloff'" , "Leslie N. Forewright" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:45:21 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I'd definitely go with a battery tender. Glenn suggested the same to me last year & it was a godsend. I never had a problem starting her up after she'd been on the tender. - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Norloff [SMTP:cnorloff@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 3:32 PM > To: Leslie N. Forewright > Cc: 'DC Cycles' > Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto > > At 04:07 PM 11/2/98 , Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > >Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the > block > >which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole > winter. > >Glenn > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:50:50 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12326 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:50:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 380; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:49:29 -0500 Message-ID: <363E1B1B.23092448@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:50:35 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" CC: "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0CB@MSCEX> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: > > Hmmm.. thanks for the idear..When was the next party going to be??? :) > Well, *NOW* it's certainly not gonna be at our house! Horkster, carefully eyeing (pun?) his THREE ceiling fans at home for potatoes from now on... especially the one over my bed! (That wouldn't be pleasant!) :) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:51:01 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12329 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:50:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-10.dial.nova.org (ra1-10.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.170]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA24321 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:50:47 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: honda question Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:56:40 GMT Message-ID: <36451a59.78309571@beta.nova.org> References: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> In-Reply-To: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:16 -0600, "Leslie N. Forewright"=20 >but I have asked a few Honda owners what the difference is between >the F models...i've seen F1's and now the new F4 is in "American Road >Racing Mag"....is this simply a year model code or is there an actual = dif. >in the setup and performance of the bikes...oddly enough I never think = of >this question when I am around people on rides....on the F series >bikes... =46 is a common suffix for Honda bikes (e.g., VFR750F). However, the models you're referring to are variations of the CBR600. The original Hurricane, CBR600F, was considered a revolutionary model in the world of sporting bikes (my brother had one of these - what a change from the CB650 he'd had previously). The F2 was an evolutionary step up from the F, the F3 was again an evolutionary step up from the F2, and the F4 will be released for 1999 and is yet another evolutionary step in the CBR600 line-up (although from my perspective it represents a greater leap than the previous models did). If I get off my lazy butt and get my truck ready to sell I'll likely be buying a CBR600F4 next year... It's the first of the seriously sporting production bikes (actually, the R6 as well) to actually weigh less than my Hawk GT and it's a Honda. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:51:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12346 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA06490 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:51:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA10309 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:51:19 -0500 (EST) From: sbeck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B0.00721060 ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:45:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: Chris Norloff cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B0.0071D215.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:45:51 -0500 Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Or we could be real mischievous and use eggs instead of potato's. ;-) Steve Sounds good. Steve Beck and I will bring the potatoes. :-) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 15:54:53 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12366 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 310; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:53:42 -0500 Message-ID: <363E1C18.EEB8FE66@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:54:48 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? Hmm, a party on my birthday? Does that mean I have to make lasagna again? :) Count me in! Horkster, 3 years younger than the SuperBowl From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:03:04 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12570 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:04:22 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:03:51 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of = flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. :-) Scooter >>> 11/02/98 03:33PM >>> That depends ... who's playing? --chris To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , 'Todd Peer' , dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 cc: From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" Date: 11/02/98 08:11:05 PM GMT Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you = received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:05:12 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12676 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:05:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-59-219.s282.tnt12.brd.erols.com [207.172.59.219]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA27445 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:05:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002601be06ac$cbd30b60$db3baccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: insurance... Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:04:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 According to Progressive....cheapest I could find, at the time...found out different later that State Farm is much cheaper...anyhow because I live in Arlington...i fall under the D.C. theft rates.....neat huh......if I parked my bike on a military base... nearest one being Fort Meyer..it would be a couple hundred less...however...that would be quite inconveinent for me... besides according to the Provost Marshall(army thing) my MSF certificate which is about 4 years old is not current enough to ride the bike on base....Les Kat 750.. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:05:16 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12679 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:05:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 217 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:04:01 -0500 Message-ID: <363E1E83.62FDE5E1@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:05:07 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: honda question References: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking fo the F4's, I got a nice glossy full color ad thingy mailed to me hyping the new Honda 600 F4's, also shows all the other GooF's :) If anyone wants it, just holler. Dale (the Horkster) Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > ...i've seen F1's and now the new F4 is in "American Road > Racing Mag"....is this simply a year model code or is there an actual dif. > in the setup and performance of the bikes... From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:08:04 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12698 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 369; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:06:53 -0500 Message-ID: <363E1F2F.8F95EB15@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:07:59 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCOTT Rush CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SCOTT Rush wrote: > > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers! PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:12:28 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12787 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:12:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 231; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:11:14 -0500 Message-ID: <363E2034.3AEB74BA@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:12:20 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCOTT Rush CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heeeeere Leeezard, Leeezard, Leeezard! Horkster SCOTT Rush wrote: > > Yo quero Taco Bell? > > Scooter > > >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/02/98 03:25PM >>> > Not much into football, but a party with bikers is a party with bikers!!! In > my best taco bell dog voice: "I am there"... > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:19:11 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12857 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:19:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 95; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:17:56 -0500 Message-ID: <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:19:02 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > ..I have always lived where it was warm enough to ride year > round.....? And Leon Begeman responded: > In the 15 years since I've started riding, so have I. :-) Yeah, but Leon, you cheat, you Electro-Heat-Widder-Boy! :) Dale (the Horkster) PS: I guess the same argument can be said of me, the Lard-Boy! :) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:22:28 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA12942 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaRQd-0002kN-01; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:22:23 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:20:18 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD65@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , "O'Brien, Jeannette" , christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:20:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Well, it's big but it'll have 2 pitbulls in it! LOL Also, it's sloping so it would be easy to get injured! heh heh - by the slope, of course. > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [SMTP:SRUSH@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:04 PM > To: jlobrien@XXXXXX; christopher.meier@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; todd.b.peer@XXXXXX; > cfagan@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of > flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. > :-) > > Scooter > > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:24:07 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12962 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:25:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:24:52 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm also a Steelers fan since birth. Born and raised in Pennsyltucky. I = think "Slash" can do it though. You got to have faith. :-) Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:07PM >>> SCOTT Rush wrote: >=20 > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible = Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got=20 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers!=20 PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:24:34 1998 Return-Path: mberman@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (mberman@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12973 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:33 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mberman@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id QAA19568; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:26 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:25 -0500 (EST) From: Morris Berman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: SCOTT Rush Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why flag football, why not M/C polo? On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, SCOTT Rush wrote: > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. :-) > > Scooter > > >>> 11/02/98 03:33PM >>> -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=-=-=-=-=> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages Accepted <=-=-=-=-=- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:24:58 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA12982 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:24:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:26:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:26:04 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I think I'm going to need a bigger box. Scooter (TV? What's that? hehe) >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:12PM >>> Heeeeere Leeezard, Leeezard, Leeezard! Horkster SCOTT Rush wrote: >=20 > Yo quero Taco Bell? >=20 > Scooter >=20 > >>> "Fagan, Collin LTJG" 11/02/98 03:25PM >>> > Not much into football, but a party with bikers is a party with = bikers!!! In > my best taco bell dog voice: "I am there"... > From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:26:37 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13003 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:26:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:27:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:27:34 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: jlobrien@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline One pitbull on each team. I think that's fair. Scooter >>> "O'Brien, Jeannette" 11/02/98 04:20PM >>> Well, it's big but it'll have 2 pitbulls in it! LOL Also, it's sloping so it would be easy to get injured! heh heh - by the slope, of course. > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [SMTP:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:04 PM > To: jlobrien@XXXXXX; christopher.meier@XXXXXX=20 > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; todd.b.peer@XXXXXX; > cfagan@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner >=20 > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of > flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. > :-) >=20 > Scooter >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:29:29 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13087 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:29:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:29:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:29:15 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: mberman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Todd's jacket liner Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I don't think her backyard is THAT big. Besides, it's football season not = Polo season. Scooter >>> Morris Berman 11/02/98 04:24PM >>> Why flag football, why not M/C polo? On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, SCOTT Rush wrote: > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see why a game of = flag football can't be arranged. Then you could say WE were playing. :-) >=20 > Scooter >=20 > >>> 11/02/98 03:33PM >>> -Mb ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- Morris Berman, mberman@XXXXXX=20 '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) = #446884 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= ---- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D> PGP Key Available Upon Request, MIME Messages = Accepted <=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging = trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:35:39 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13198 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07149 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA11596 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:35:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA01092; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:35:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E285B.7E7E@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:47:07 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: NJitzul@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Quiz OTD References: <8b75d316.363a9587@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > > Hmmm... they say I'm an Adrenalin Junkie! :) Who me? Noooo. > Maybe if I had bought that CBR instead of the Shadow.... > > Robert "I know I'd kill myself on a crotch-rocket cause I'd > want to see how fast it goes... " VanSlyke > > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" (enough speed to keep me happy) Same reason I don't even look at the crotch-rockets. I would not trust myself. But, I di spend most of my time with a passenger. I will not say how much she weighs, but I am well over 200. With me, her, and the full T-Bag, I need the 1100... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:38:20 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13218 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA10124; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:38:46 -0500 Message-ID: <363E25A8.F2FFEB62@illuminet.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 21:35:36 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeannette invited us to a party Chris Meier asks That depends ... who's playing? Dale Horstman wrote: > > Yeah, but Leon, you cheat, you Electro-Heat-Widder-Boy! :) OK. here's my part. Let's go ride some twisty roads. I know of a road with some really tight switchbacks. It's Ridge Road in western Prince William County; about a half dozen first gear switchbacks going up the side of Bull Run Mountain. Using one of Chris Norloff's winter riding rules, "you know you're a winter rider when gravel in the turns looks good because you know it isn't as slippery as ice" This road is never slippery in the summer, and most of the time it's just as good in the winter. I'll watch the weather report and plan a route that is close to Jeannette and Tom yet is sure to include some relatively rough unpaved roads. Better weather will insure more miles. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:41:07 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13239 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:41:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by animal.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4Y7ZYCKJ>; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:40:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: SB XXXIII/Biker Party Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:40:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Not if they keep playing like yesterday. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:25 PM To: Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party I'm also a Steelers fan since birth. Born and raised in Pennsyltucky. I think "Slash" can do it though. You got to have faith. :-) Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:07PM >>> SCOTT Rush wrote: > > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers! PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:44:18 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13353 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS33LDY3; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:30 EST To: l4rite@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: honda question Message-ID: <19981030.184631.8255.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3,5-6,13-15 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:30 EST On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:24:16 -0600 "Leslie N. Forewright" writes: ...but I have asked a few Honda owners what the difference is >between the F models...i've seen F1's and now the new F4 is in "American Road >Racing Mag"....is this simply a year model code or is there an actual dif< I'm sure lots of folks will jump to answer this, especially Honda owners and any former Honda mechanics, but I believe each "F number" represents significant changes to the model. In Honda's case in particular, the changes usually amount to a total redesign and not just minor updates. That's why the F3's have been out for a few years and why, after 12 years of production (including 1999), they've only made it up to F4 and not to F12. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:44:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13356 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07250 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA11928 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS33LD7S; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:31 EST To: sbeck@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Message-ID: <19981030.184631.8255.3.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <852566B0.006CEB0D.00@goliath.intelsol.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,3-4,12-14 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:31 EST >Honestly, at one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling >fan blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week ... This happened at a party at my house once, too, but not with potatoes. The morning after, having cleaned the kitchen all the way down to scrubbing the floor on my hands and knees (murderous with a hangover) to get the sticky spots up. Shakily, I stood up, pleased with my work. But the Pine Sol smell was getting to me, so I opened the window and turned on the fan to clear the air. Someone had left a plastic cup half full of beer and a few cigarette butts up there. It fell on my shoulder and splashed its unsavory contents all down my side. Bleah!! JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:44:24 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13359 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS33LDTW; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:30 EST To: Dysart@XXXXXX Cc: l4rite@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Batteries was Big Plans...some moto Message-ID: <19981030.184630.8255.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3-4,9-10,13-15 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:41:30 EST On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:21:00 -0500 Dysart@XXXXXX> writes: >For starters just a quick run around the block probably isn't going to do your battery >any good (it might even make it weaker). Secondly a quick run isn't going to burn off >any condensation buildup. Also, you run the risk of fouling the spark plugs from not letting the engine get good and warm unless you run around the block a whole bunch of times in a row (and then you run the risk of potentially unwanted attention from your neighbors). But if you have a friend stand in your driveway with a stopwatch... ;-) A motorcycle's charging system isn't strong enough to recharge its battery the way a car's system will. I, too, recommend you stick to a battery tender. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:49:41 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13451 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:49:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-113-136.s136.tnt5.ann.erols.com [207.172.113.136]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24420; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:50:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E9F64.6AB7EC1@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 01:15:00 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: SCOTT Rush , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <363E2034.3AEB74BA@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ROTFLMAO... Half the living creatures in my house perked their ears up when this post came through!! Dale Horstman wrote: > > Heeeeere Leeezard, Leeezard, Leeezard! > > Horkster > -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:51:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13538 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:51:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07450 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:51:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA12144 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:51:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11603 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:51:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E2C3F.B7A@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:03:43 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > > What's this talk of heated grips and heated seats? Bah... I > prefer to bundle up like the Michelin Man. :) I tend to agree with you. As long as my bundled clothing allows me the movement to twist the throttle, I'll ride. I am real good at "layering" my clothes. Growing up poor in a cold climate, I could never afford the real warm (expensive) clothing. I just bought clothes big enough to wear many layers.... It was still cheaper than the expensive clothes. -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:55:08 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13551 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:55:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 95; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:53:58 -0500 Message-ID: <363E2A38.FF705FBB@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:55:04 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman , DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> <363E25A8.F2FFEB62@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leon Begeman wrote: > > OK. here's my part. Let's go ride some twisty roads. I know of a road > with some really tight switchbacks. It's Ridge Road in western Prince > William County; about a half dozen first gear switchbacks going up the > side of Bull Run Mountain. Paved? Not that I'm a wuss or anything, but first gear switchbacks on a cold day on my birthday on the way to a party with a lasagna strapped to the bike chasing a John Deere billygoat up a frozen gravel cowpath with my top heavy streetbike just might be pushing the envelope a little too much... ;) I guess I could always ditch the lasagna. After all, it will by my birthday... :) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:55:46 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13561 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:55:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:56:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:56:23 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, exup@XXXXXX Subject: M/C Clothing question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website that sells all = kinds of leather goods, including pants and jackets. They had a nice = zip-up leather shirt for $129 that they said is good for when you want to = ride but don't want to wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any = comments? The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under Shirts - = Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice pants too. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:59:35 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13667 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:59:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA16333; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:59:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E2DFC.6375@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:11:08 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD63@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > Ok, cool, sounds like there's enough interest. I'll give > you all more details when planning is more underway. > BTW, I don't care about the superbowl myself, just using > it as an excuse to party! ; ) I love to party, but I think I will be skiing that weekend. If not, count me in. I have to meet all of you who don't ride year-round some way. :) -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 16:59:48 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA13676 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:00:52 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:00:37 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: HolmesM@XXXXXX, Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: SB XXXIII/Biker Party Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I know. I know. A guy can dream though, can't he? Scooter >>> "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" 11/02/98 04:40PM = >>> Not if they keep playing like yesterday. =20 Mitch -----Original Message----- From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:25 PM To: Horkster@XXXXXX=20 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party I'm also a Steelers fan since birth. Born and raised in Pennsyltucky. I think "Slash" can do it though. You got to have faith. :-) Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:07PM >>> SCOTT Rush wrote: >=20 > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got=20 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers!=20 PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:06:26 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13790 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20923 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:06:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E2FB2.9CE@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:18:26 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD64@badge.tuckerflyer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > I'd definitely go with a battery tender. Glenn suggested > the same to me last year & it was a godsend. I never had a > problem starting her up after she'd been on the tender. Thanks for the advice. My biggest problem is that I think the battery in my '78 Suzuki is the original. I have to kick start it. Only if it has been running and the weather is warm, will the thing start with the starter. Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen '78 GS400/'97 ACE 1100 Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:15:23 1998 Return-Path: jlobrien@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13911 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:15:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zaSFq-0006Wl-00; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:15:18 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:13:13 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD67@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'Dale Horstman'" , Leon Begeman , DC Cycles List Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:13:13 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain NOOOOOOOO! I love you lasagna!! Blasphemy, I say!! > Paved? Not that I'm a wuss or anything, but first gear switchbacks > on a cold day on my birthday on the way to a party with a lasagna > strapped to the bike chasing a John Deere billygoat up a frozen gravel > > cowpath with my top heavy streetbike just might be pushing the > envelope > a little too much... ;) > > I guess I could always ditch the lasagna. After all, it will by > my birthday... :) > > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:17:43 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13921 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28148 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:17:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E3259.5EF9@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:29:45 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SCOTT Rush wrote: > Well, if Jeannette's backyard is big enough, I don't see > why a game of flag football can't be arranged. Then you > could say WE were playing. :-) I'm up for a game of touch co-ed football..... :) Too much hassle getting the flags, etc. But I love a friendly game. Never could stand to watch football; I just like playing football. -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:19:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA13931 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:18:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA07799 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (known imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13048 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:18:50 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WWLa002316 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:16:44 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1f5bff31.363e2f4c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:16:44 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-02 14:55:36 EST, you write: << Honestly, at one other party I had someone placed potatoes on the kitchen ceiling fan blades. Guess what happened when I turned it on later in the week =:0 Actually, this was pretty funny. Not like they were shot from a spud gun :) >> Man! Why didn't I think of this before? *said in the voice of Wile E. Coyote* "Genius! That's what it is! Pure genius!" (Of course, then I'd have to fall off the chair ripping the ceiling fan from the ceiling whilst being bombarded with 'taters.) Lung From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:28:04 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14083 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-56-21.s21.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.56.21]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA03886; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:27:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E34C2.1038@iname.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:40:02 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SCOTT Rush CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SCOTT Rush wrote: > > One pitbull on each team. I think that's fair. > After working as a veterinary technician for the last 13 years, I think that pitbulls are great dogs. The love to play, and if raised right are the sweetest dogs. I love it when they come into the clinic because I can rough house with them without any fear. Try wrestling with a chihuahua.... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:28:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14093 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:28:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08026 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (known imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13351 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:28:42 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id UAAHa09168; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:26:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:26:20 EST To: l4rite@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-02 15:14:29 EST, you write: << I thought about that too......Cycle Sport has them for around $39.00....why would it hurt it more to ride it...just curious....other than carbon build up and maybe moisture in the carbs..i'm not sure.....I have always lived where it was warm enough to ride year round.....? >> If ya just ride it without getting it af FULL op temp, then yeah, moisture is gonna be a problem. Spring for the insurance or the Bat. Tender (which is well worth the money). On the other hand, why not get some of those nifty ice-racing studded tires and redecorate the local landscape all winter instead? A Katana 750 ice bike would be gonzo. Show those cheesy lil' 250's what -real- fun is! =<8^O Lung From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:33:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14154 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08071 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:33:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA13472 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:33:32 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WGZBa02302 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:32:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:32:11 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: Todd's jacket liner Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_910045932_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_910045932_boundary Content-ID: <0_910045932@XXXXXX> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_910045932_boundary Content-ID: <0_910045932@XXXXXX> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: LungHD@XXXXXX Return-path: To: jlobrien@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:31:32 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-11-02 15:21:58 EST, you write: << Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... Any yeas? - Jeannette >> Hmmmm. Any prizes for long distance rider? Fan-mashed potatoes, perhaps? Lung (Thinking of putting the dog on the ceiling fan and leaving the toys on the floor.) --part0_910045932_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:55:35 1998 Return-Path: SQUAM69@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14464 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:55:32 -0500 (EST) From: SQUAM69@XXXXXX Received: from SQUAM69@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 5SGWa17681; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:54:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <92e59b1a.363e383b@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:54:51 EST To: SRUSH@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, exup@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [EXUP] M/C Clothing question Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/2/98 1:55:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, SRUSH@XXXXXX writes: << Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website that sells all kinds of leather goods, including pants and jackets. They had a nice zip-up leather shirt for $129 that they said is good for when you want to ride but don't want to wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under Shirts - Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice pants too. Scooter >> Screw it--Just ride without a shirt! Actually, if your concerned about protection during the hot weather, I'd try to find a heavily ventilated jacket that has somebody armor. A thin leather shirt will create a lot of heat when your back is sliding down the road--It may save your skin, but the heat blisters that it produces will be a mess. Ask Rick about crashing, he's done it twice in 18 years and is the list expert. Oh, I forgot-Rick doesn't wear any protection--3 words--Vegas, Honda, Crash. Sam ZX-9 Guy From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 17:56:11 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA14484 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:56:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08384 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:56:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (known smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA14282 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:56:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-113-136.s136.tnt5.ann.erols.com [207.172.113.136]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29133; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:56:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363EAFBD.F7C72115@geocities.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 02:24:45 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LungHD@XXXXXX CC: l4rite@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to come up north and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two that had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like crazy.... Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > On the other hand, why not get some of those nifty ice-racing studded tires > and redecorate the local landscape all winter instead? A Katana 750 ice bike > would be gonzo. Show those cheesy lil' 250's what -real- fun is! -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 18:40:20 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.151]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15108 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:40:16 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr49-dialup49.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.79.49]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F1T00OTJJ1YAQ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:39:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:41:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Stolen Bike Update #3 To: "Burger, Donald " , DC Cycles Message-id: <017401be06ba$5fc85200$314f37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Anyone out there want to buy an nice F3? Its only been stolen AND >crashed one time. I didn't think so. > >Don B. Don, $500 I'll take it as is.......... 8^) Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 18:46:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15226 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:46:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA09082 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:46:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.152]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA15599 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:46:32 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr49-dialup49.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.79.49]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33507) with SMTP id <0F1T001VQJCICP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:45:58 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:48:09 -0500 Subject: Re: WOW, There is a god!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <017c01be06bb$40f4f940$314f37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Great to have you back out there Sean! >Have you tinkered with your DJPC yet? Mine will be here on Wednesday (got it >secondhand for $275!) and I was curious if you have played with it yet. > >Jack Hope it comes with a working sidestand........... yikes.... I guess hp is more important. Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 19:05:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15550 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:05:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA09304 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:05:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA15916 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:05:23 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr49-dialup49.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.79.49]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33510) with SMTP id <0F1T00H6NK7KCV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:04:36 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:06:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <019b01be06bd$db80f5c0$314f37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal I think someone "borrowed" my R1 at Todd's party. If everyone can chip in and help me replace it, I'd be very grateful............ seriously, great idea Kirk, count me in. That's the least some of us could do. I mean, all I did was drink some, ok, a lot of Todd's home brew and nibbled on some yummy food. Hmmm, beer munchies....... BTW, who started on Mark's quiche? I thought that was gonna go untouched(eh-hem...Urselina...cough, cough). Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 19:39:53 1998 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from stmpy.cais.net (stmpy.cais.net [199.0.216.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16055 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:39:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (dynamic97.cais.com [207.226.56.97]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA08635 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:55:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981102193638.006b0b8c@mail.dc.net> X-Sender: wowbager@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:36:38 -0800 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I find it hard to believe that whoever "borrowed it", hasn't returned it by now. Thats pretty low, considering that Todd would be right there to help you if you needed it. Kirk Excellent idea, let me know were to send the Check. Mike B. 98 ZX900R At 04:19 PM 11/2/98 GMT, you wrote: >Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party >I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to >make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was >confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd >have to foot the whole bill. From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 20:28:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA16833 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:28:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA10170 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:28:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA18417 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:28:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([208.220.25.220]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 356; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: <363E5CEE.9A13C1BE@tidalwave.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:31:26 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LungHD@XXXXXX CC: LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Leon Begemen Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LungHD@XXXXXX wrote: > > A Katana 750 ice bike would be gonzo. Show those cheesy lil' 250's > what -real- fun is! =<8^O Hey Leon! Ya hear what this guy is saying about your bike? :) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 21:01:25 1998 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay1.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17335 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from LOCALNAME (kozyn.mnsinc.com [206.55.25.101]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA00323; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:01:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363E8E25.43DF@mnsinc.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 21:01:25 -0800 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kirk Roy CC: dc-cycles Subject: Todd's jacket liner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 02 Nov 1998 16:19:30 GMT Kirk Roy suggested: > Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party > I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to > make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was > confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd > have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party > and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace > Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this > thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for > our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want > that) but simply a just thing to do. Count me in Kirk. I agree with you that it is the just thing to do. JK From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 21:02:00 1998 Return-Path: true@XXXXXX Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17353 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:01:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mydesktop (client196-127-194.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.194]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id UAA20000; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:11:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811030111.UAA20000@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:57:45 -0500 To: "O'Brien, Jeannette" , "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD62@badge.tuckerflyer.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Owww... Okay, okay, twist my arm. :) MET At 03:11 PM 11/2/98 , O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: >Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... >Any yeas? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 21:40:21 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA17872 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:40:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA10839 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (known imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA20006 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:40:14 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id WQRAa09167 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:39:30 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <1cd709d.363e6ce2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:39:30 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: WOW, There is a god!! - sidestand/PC Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/2/98 7:53:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dawn.jon@XXXXXX writes: << Hope it comes with a working sidestand........... yikes.... I guess hp is more important. >> FYI, my sidestand is in transit as we speak from NY...$23 secondhand. Nice deal I think. Jack From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 22:29:31 1998 Return-Path: true@XXXXXX Received: from iconmail.bellatlantic.net (iconmail.bellatlantic.net [199.173.162.30]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18542 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mydesktop (client196-127-194.bellatlantic.net [151.196.127.194]) by iconmail.bellatlantic.net (IConNet Sendmail) with SMTP id UAA19976; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:11:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811030111.UAA19976@iconmail.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:54:50 -0500 To: Tom Gimer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner In-Reply-To: <363E02D4.DFB@smart.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There's still the possibility that one of the _non-list-reading_ guests picked it up inadvertently or out of need, and just hasn't thought about it since. No need for tempers to flare. However, chipping in seems like a great idea anyway. :) MET At 02:07 PM 11/2/98 , Tom Gimer wrote: >I was hoping that the prick who stole Todd's liner would just drop it >off on his doorstep while Todd was at work, but that seems unlikely at >this point. > >... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX) http://www.clark.net/pub/pooh/ ======================================================================= From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 22:30:32 1998 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18583 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:30:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-3.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.44]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA06661 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: <018a01be06da$15dd1480$3510b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:28:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Top idea, Kirk. One thought -- if the timing issue can be handled (cool weather *is* upon us), perhaps a door collection at a next get-together would save a lot of checks, envelopes and stamps. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 Will clothing lojacks be next? Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Roy Being a bit disturbed by Todd's jacket liner being stolen at the party I've been thinking about what we, the other party goers, might do to make it right. I was sure that liner was a pricey item which was confirmed by checking the catalog ($167) and would hate to see Todd have to foot the whole bill. There were lots of people at the party and if each of us just contributed a couple dollars we could replace Todd's liner easy and painlessly. What do y'all say? Todd set this thing up and took some risks and now, in a sense, he's suffering for our benefit. This isn't charity (I'm sure Todd wouldn't need or want that) but simply a just thing to do. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon Nov 2 22:55:45 1998 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA18876 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:55:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-3.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.44]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA07171 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:55:43 -0500 Message-ID: <01b901be06dd$9c410b00$3510b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 22:49:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Congratulations, Collin. I got help toward my Masters from the GI Bill. Soak up as much bookstuff as possible -- Time is so hard to find for that post-school. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 O.M. (Owners Manual), going for its S.M. (Service Manual) Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Fagan, Collin LTJG ...snip >Well, I recently was selected by the Coast Guard to attend post-graduate >school ...snip From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:02:12 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19824 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:02:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12673 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (known pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22753 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:01:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA24888; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:58:06 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:57:43 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner To: Kirk Roy cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm in.Are you going to be the POC Kirk? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:17:14 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20045 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25168; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:13:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:11:17 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <006801be069c$1b218900$167aaccf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've got big plans this spring myself,but they're completley non-moto.From mid March to mid July I'll be in the United Arab Emerites for Desert Storm. And Sodamn Insane is getting uppitdy again.Lovely. :-P The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:24:21 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20132 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:24:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.20]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:19:28 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Leslie N. Forewright" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: honda question Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:24:42 -0500 Message-ID: <007d01be06ea$429dbbe0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <022401be06a7$260ace20$167aaccf@default> Hurricane and F are essentially the same bike. F2 is new bike. F3 is update on F2 F4 is totally new bike. New engine new (aluminum) frame. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:24:23 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20134 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:24:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.20]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:11:17 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Burger, Donald " , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: Stolen Bike Update #3 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:16:31 -0500 Message-ID: <007a01be06e9$1e19b360$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01D61363DB03B00E*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Sounds like the beginnings of a NICE streetfighter to me. How is the frame? Forks? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Anyone out there want to buy an nice F3? Its only been stolen AND > crashed one time. I didn't think so. > > Don B. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:24:24 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20136 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:24:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.20]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:13:17 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Todd Peer" , , Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:18:30 -0500 Message-ID: <007b01be06e9$6524a6c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000d01be0675$a8dc4220$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Hey, she got her ring today. And that ring cost (will be costing) a heck of a lot more than a decent sidecar. (Where the hell are my priorities?) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Why don't you just get a nice car and quit trying to torture the poor girl > :) > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:27:39 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20237 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.20]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:24:37 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Gil M. Nissley" , Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:29:51 -0500 Message-ID: <007f01be06ea$fb100e80$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Need anybody to keep an eye on the Hog? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > I've got big plans this spring myself,but they're completley > non-moto.From mid March to mid July I'll be in the United Arab > Emerites for Desert Storm. > And Sodamn Insane is getting uppitdy again.Lovely. :-P > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:37:27 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20421 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:37:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25275; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:33:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:31:31 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <363EAFBD.F7C72115@geocities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) wrote: > On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to come up north > and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two that > had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like > crazy.... > Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! _CW_ rode in a race called the Numb Bumm a couple years ago.The track is pure ice with banking and everything.I think they ran an old GS1100 if memory serves. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:42:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20510 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA13578 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23539 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:35 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3UINa02301; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:38:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <9b2caaa6.363e96c3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:38:11 EST To: snake69@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 I also have gotten good at layering clothes. I was born and raised around DC and nice clothing usually got stolen where I lived. So I have lots of really inexpensive stuff!! :) Also, my short time in the USAFA in Colorado Springs helped me to become very tolerant of extreme temps (100+ degree days and 30 degree nites is common). I'm thinking of getting a larger touring type bike to supplement the Shadow. Crotch-Rockets are tempting, but I won't try it til I can ride on a track. Racing sounds inticing, but lack of money and semi-uncertain future prevent those kinds of commitments. I know I want something that is more stretched out and has more storage space for riding distances once I'm done with school. Til then, I'll keep dreaming. :) Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:44:08 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20521 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:44:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25304; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:40:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:35:09 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto To: George Howell cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <007f01be06ea$fb100e80$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, George Howell wrote: > Need anybody to keep an eye on the Hog? Gee,think someone here would ride it around for me?Jack? :-P It's going to spend the winter in Dad's garage.I'm going to see if I can get him to ride it in Rolling Thunder for me.It would be priceless(Dad's big-time Honda dude). The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:46:04 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20566 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:46:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25319; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:41:04 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: RE: **RIDING UNTIL THE SNOW HITS THE GROUND** To: George Howell cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <007b01be06e9$6524a6c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, George Howell wrote: > Hey, she got her ring today. And that ring cost (will be costing) a heck of > a lot more than a decent sidecar. (Where the hell are my priorities?) Why didn't you give her a bike for an engagment present?You coulda put the keyring on her finger. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 00:47:28 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA20576 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA25325; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:43:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:42:47 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Remembering a disk lock To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981102075430.00fafa20@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Chris Norloff wrote: > Souonds like you've been watching too much Pamela Lee Anderson lately. Are you saying I'm the only person on the list who watches VIP? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 01:47:37 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21334 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA25732; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:43:57 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:41:49 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: insurance... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <002601be06ac$cbd30b60$db3baccf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > besides according to the Provost Marshall(army thing) my MSF certificate > which is about 4 years old is not current enough to ride the bike on > base....Les Kat 750.. Sounds goofy to me.My card is from '90 and I've never been hassled. Why not just take the course again? The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 01:49:49 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21344 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:49:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA25747; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:46:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:45:35 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: Marvin Heilesen cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <363E2FB2.9CE@iname.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Marvin Heilesen wrote: > Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, > too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost > dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? I'd say park it and give the electrical system a good going over. Check everything out and replace anything questionable. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 01:56:48 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA21432 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:56:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA25772; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:53:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:49:08 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: ERC Class Attendees - range To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <6e063c54.363dfecc@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > I still think we should just use the pentagon parking lot. Its public > property so there is no way in hell that they can tell us to go away. Actually,it's a military reservation,which makes it govt property. There's actually small(pentagon-shaped) plates on the curbs of nearby streets that give the actual bondaries. But as long as you do it out on the edge of Noth Parking,and nowhere near the building,there shouldn't be any probs. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:05:25 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26758 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:05:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031205.HAA26758@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:05:21 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: M/C Clothing question Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:02:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) hrmm.. this'd be best answered with a 'opinions may vary' answer. We already know (or should know) that even a fashon leather jacket (heavier than the leather shirts.. I've seen them before) more or less melt when they touch terra firma at any kind of speed. I imagine that with the shirt, you'd be doing just about as much as wearing a denim jacket.. not much in other words. Plus you don't have any armor to keep you from hurting yourself on impact.. I bet for $150 or so Colleen could set you up with a nice jacket (if money's a concern) - otherwise buy a cable lock and lock your gear to your bike. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:56 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; exup@XXXXXX > Subject: M/C Clothing question > > > Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website > that sells all kinds of leather goods, including pants and > jackets. They had a nice zip-up leather shirt for $129 that > they said is good for when you want to ride but don't want to > wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? > > The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under > Shirts - Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice > pants too. > > Scooter > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:12:12 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA26858 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA17183 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:12:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (known mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA28454 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:12:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031212.HAA28454@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:11:53 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:09:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) must be the REAL reason Collin's headed north... got that racing gig he always wanted.. ;) Can I see the studded tires on your GSXR befor you leave though Collin!!??!! puhleeease.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX) [mailto:gixer@XXXXXX] > > > On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to > come up north > and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two that > had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like > crazy.... > Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:15:40 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA26908 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:15:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103121652.3782.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:16:52 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:16:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: "Gil M. Nissley" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It sounds goofy by MSF standards (certificate never expires but they recommend retaking ERC every 1-3 yrs), but goofy is normal by military standards. Each service or major command has a limit. USCG used to require the course every three years. I got stopped at the gate at Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, so I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. Ray ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > > besides according to the Provost Marshall(army thing) my MSF certificate > > which is about 4 years old is not current enough to ride the bike on > > base....Les Kat 750.. > > Sounds goofy to me.My card is from '90 and I've never been hassled. > Why not just take the course again? > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:30:51 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA27134 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:30:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103123204.7744.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:32:04 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:32:04 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Big Plans...some moto To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" , "'Leslie N. Forewright'" Cc: "'DC Cycles'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone have the issue of Motorcycle Consumer News where they compared smart battery tenders/chargers (Jun or Jul I think)? The magazine is so popular mine took a walk. ---"Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" wrote: > > Leslie, buy yourself a Battery Tender and forgot riding it around the block > which could actually be worse then leaving it sit for the whole winter. > > Glenn > > > > > there......I have exactly 30 days left of riding before my insurance > > winters > > over...not covered for collison from NOV 31 to Feb 29, Leap year, i think, > > so i'l be putting the Katana in the storage shed..only to ride it around > > the > > hood to keep the battery up.......hope to do atleast one cold ride before > > everyone puts up their horses for the winter......cya....Les Katana 750 > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:40:54 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA27255 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:40:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103124214.26261.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:42:14 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:42:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX, "O'Brien, Jeannette" Cc: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Todd Peer'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'll do my famous Evel Kneivel imitation,the one where I attempt to jump 50 Gold Wings with a steamroller. ---christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > > That depends ... who's playing? > > --chris > > To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , 'Todd Peer' > , dc-cycles@XXXXXX > cc: > From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" > Date: 11/02/98 08:11:05 PM GMT > Subject: RE: Todd's jacket liner > > > > > Next party...how about at our house for the superbowl? (Jan. 31)... > Any yeas? > > - Jeannette > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:41:50 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27265 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:41:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by animal.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4Y7ZYDB7>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:41:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" , Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: RE: SB XXXIII/Biker Party Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:41:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I understand the dreaming. I'm a Carolina boy -- my dreams have turned = into nightmares. =3D8^=DE=20 Go Vikings! Mitch -----Original Message----- From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 5:01 PM To: HolmesM@XXXXXX; Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: SB XXXIII/Biker Party I know. I know. A guy can dream though, can't he? Scooter >>> "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" 11/02/98 = 04:40PM >>> Not if they keep playing like yesterday. =20 Mitch -----Original Message----- From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:25 PM To: Horkster@XXXXXX=20 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 Subject: Re: SB XXXIII/Biker Party I'm also a Steelers fan since birth. Born and raised in Pennsyltucky. = I think "Slash" can do it though. You got to have faith. :-) Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/02/98 04:07PM >>> SCOTT Rush wrote: >=20 > Only if the Steelers are playing in it. ;-) I'll bring the Terrible Towel. J/k Sounds great to me since I missed Todd's party. Scooter, there just might be hope for you yet! I've got=20 3 or 4 Terrible Towels at home, too! Horkster, Steeler fan since birth. Go 'Stillers!=20 PS: I don't think it's their year, though...:( From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:56:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27459 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:56:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA17516 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:56:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (known send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA29034 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:56:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103125804.6228.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:58:04 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 04:58:04 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Quiz OTD To: Marvin Heilesen , NJitzul@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I got Angry Biker. Wow, what a surprise. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > Hmmm... they say I'm an Adrenalin Junkie! :) Who me? Noooo. > > Maybe if I had bought that CBR instead of the Shadow.... > > > > Robert "I know I'd kill myself on a crotch-rocket cause I'd > > want to see how fast it goes... " VanSlyke > > > > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" (enough speed to keep me happy) > > Same reason I don't even look at the crotch-rockets. I would not trust > myself. But, I di spend most of my time with a passenger. I will not > say how much she weighs, but I am well over 200. With me, her, and the > full T-Bag, I need the 1100... > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:59:05 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27535 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:59:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.65.242]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981103125831.XYRE9725@wotan> for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:58:31 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: "MC DC Cycles Submit" Subject: Sun Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:58:52 -0500 Message-ID: <002401be0729$b4f8a440$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? Rob Moody From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 07:59:07 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.37]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27537 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:59:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.65.242]) by mtiwmhc02.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981103125824.XYQK9725@wotan> for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:58:24 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: "MC DC Cycles Submit" Subject: Law Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:58:44 -0500 Message-ID: <002301be0729$b07b8090$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane splitting" wherein a motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los Angeles and they gave tips on how to do it "safely" . I spoke with an officer in Northern Virginia and he said he would write a ticket for wreckless driving. I also ask him about going between cars that are stopped at a signal light to get to the front of the line. He called that illegal passing. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:00:32 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA27688 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:00:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103130158.26728.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:01:58 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:01:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Could be weak spark. My duckling had this problem with the disadvantage of no kicker. Replace coils, wires, and caps, better than new. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > O'Brien, Jeannette wrote: > > > > I'd definitely go with a battery tender. Glenn suggested > > the same to me last year & it was a godsend. I never had a > > problem starting her up after she'd been on the tender. > > Thanks for the advice. My biggest problem is that I think > the battery in my '78 Suzuki is the original. I have to > kick start it. Only if it has been running and the weather > is warm, will the thing start with the starter. > > Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, > too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost > dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > '78 GS400/'97 ACE 1100 > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:13:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27879 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:13:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA17686 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:13:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA29267 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-03.dial.nova.org (ra1-03.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.163]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA05548 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:13:35 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:19:21 GMT Message-ID: <36400149.45112348@beta.nova.org> References: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> In-Reply-To: <3640da87.61969148@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy Goldfine (owner of the RiderWearhouse/Aerostich) has offered us a 20% discount on the purchase of a replacement liner for Todd. Woo hoo! This is a company that makes great gear, has incredible customer service, and they even have a heart... I will give everyone another couple of days to get on the list to help split the cost of replacing Todd's stolen liner. After that point we'll make the order. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:15:43 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27921 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:15:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031315.IAA27921@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:15:13 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Law Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:12:32 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) That may be the case.. but if you think about things logically.. if traffic is backed up to the point where you feel like lane splitting.. the cops probably have something better to be doing with their time than attempting to weed you out of traffic to give you a ticket.. I lane split only when my bike starts overheating from sitting there.. which means I do it about 5 times a year.. I've never 'filtered' (getting to the front of a stoplight through stopped cars) - but I don't ever ride in the city either, so I have no place or need to.. It's probably more a moral issue than anything.. but if you do it, and you get a ticket.. just pay the damn thing and get on with it.. consider it 'paying your dues' Brian McCoy > -----Original Message----- > > > I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane > splitting" wherein > a motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los > Angeles and they > gave tips on how to do it "safely" . > > I spoke with an officer in Northern Virginia and he said he > would write a > ticket for wreckless driving. > > I also ask him about going between cars that are stopped at a > signal light > to get to the front of the line. He called that illegal passing. > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:27:25 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28107 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:27:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A4B8A00250; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:27:20 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981103082840.00f1e520@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:29:16 -0500 To: "Robert L Moody" , "MC DC Cycles Submit" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Sun In-Reply-To: <002401be0729$b4f8a440$01010101@wotan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:58 AM 11/3/98 , Robert L Moody wrote: >When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I >put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not >an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the >shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? I put black plastic electrical tape over the add-on tint strip. Looks okay, and doesn't mar the visor. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:32:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28592 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA17834 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:32:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA29520 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:32:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA31641; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:32:58 -0500 Message-ID: <363F0546.E46F6FF4@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:29:42 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman , dc-cycles Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> <363E25A8.F2FFEB62@illuminet.net> <363E2A38.FF705FBB@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > > Paved? No! The goal on this ride is to find frozen gravel cowpaths. > Leon Begeman wrote: > > > > OK. here's my part. Let's go ride some twisty roads. I know of a road > > with some really tight switchbacks. It's Ridge Road in western Prince > > William County; about a half dozen first gear switchbacks going up the > > side of Bull Run Mountain. Dale again: > Not that I'm a wuss or anything, but first gear switchbacks > on a cold day on my birthday on the way to a party with a lasagna > strapped to the bike chasing a John Deere billygoat up a frozen gravel > cowpath with my top heavy streetbike just might be pushing the envelope > a little too much... ;) > > I guess I could always ditch the lasagna. After all, it will by > my birthday... :) -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:36:20 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA28689 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:36:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103133748.20806.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:37:48 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 05:37:48 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Sun To: Robert L Moody , MC DC Cycles Submit MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii An aviation-type tinted plastic sheet you can buy at an aviation type store (check the local FBO at your local small airport). It sticks by friction contact so the pilot can move it around to where it's needed. Easy to cut to the shape you need, whole shield or part, and you might be able to get two shields worth. I don't do this myself because I have to wear shades due to low eye pressure (don't ask, there's only two ways to get it and only one is legal). ---Robert L Moody wrote: > > When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I > put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not > an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the > shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? > > Rob Moody > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 08:46:21 1998 Return-Path: elkouss@XXXXXX Received: from po4.wam.umd.edu (po4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.166]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28818 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT root)@rac6.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.146]) by po4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id IAA17411 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu ((IDENT sendmail)@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id IAA06747 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.0.Beta6/8.9.0.Beta6) with SMTP id IAA06742 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:15 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac6.wam.umd.edu: elkouss owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:46:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul F. Elkouss" cc: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: Re: Sun In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981103082840.00f1e520@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Troy lee makes a visor for this purpose, I think race car drivers use it on their helmets. Paul Elkouss University of Maryland 1990 Yamaha yx600 Radian From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:00:40 1998 Return-Path: tgimer@XXXXXX Received: from gemini.smart.net (gemini.smart.net [206.27.242.109]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29179 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:00:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from gimerhome (max2p206.smart.net [206.97.127.206]) by gemini.smart.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA00098; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:00:31 -0500 Message-ID: <02e601be0732$f406d400$c77f61ce@gimerhome> From: "Thomas H. Gimer" To: , "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:04:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 -----Original Message----- From: Mark E. Truelove To: Tom Gimer ; Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner >There's still the possibility that one of the _non-list-reading_ guests >picked it up inadvertently or out of need, and just hasn't thought about it >since. No need for tempers to flare. Tell that to Todd. Inadvertantly taking a $170 liner? Come on. >However, chipping in seems like a great idea anyway. :) Looks like about $10 each (those who have voluteered) will do it. >MET > >At 02:07 PM 11/2/98 , Tom Gimer wrote: >>I was hoping that the prick who stole Todd's liner would just drop it >>off on his doorstep while Todd was at work, but that seems unlikely at >>this point. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:06:11 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29277 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:07:34 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:07:20 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: ERC Class Attendees - range Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline My bro-in-law agrees. He worked on a contract there for three weeks and = said that they don't bother with people that far away from the actual = building. It should be safe. Scooter >>> "Gil M. Nissley" 10/31/98 10:37PM >>> But as long as you do it out on the edge of Noth Parking,and nowhere near the building,there shouldn't be any probs.=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:13:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29420 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:13:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18276 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:13:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA00822 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:13:36 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id FIBCa02301; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:12:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <187ac695.363f0f48@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:12:24 EST To: gnissley@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-03 00:44:14 EST, you write: << _CW_ rode in a race called the Numb Bumm a couple years ago.The track is pure ice with banking and everything.I think they ran an old GS1100 if memory serves. >> Sounds like a scene from 'Mad Maxx' that was cut for being too violent!!! Geez! (GS1100 + Ice / Studded Tires) * Adrenalin = Carnage on a Grand Scale! I like it. Sounds like a pay-per-view event to me. Where's SpeedVision when ya need em? Lung From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:32:26 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29751 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:32:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103143334.12884.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 06:33:33 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:33:33 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: TODD PEER CALL ME IMMEDIATELY! To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I can't find your phone number or email address. Ray Lucas 410 762 6710 I got some good news _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:46:11 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29952 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:46:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:46:25 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:46:14 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: M/C Clothing question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Money's not the problem. Just was looking for something a little lighter. = Thanks for the input though. Scooter >>> "McCoy, Brian NAB02" 11/03/98 = 07:02AM >>> hrmm.. this'd be best answered with a 'opinions may vary' answer. We already know (or should know) that even a fashon leather jacket (heavier than the leather shirts.. I've seen them before) more or less melt when = they touch terra firma at any kind of speed. I imagine that with the shirt, you'd be doing just about as much as wearing a denim jacket.. not much in other words. Plus you don't have any armor to keep you from hurting yourself on impact.. I bet for $150 or so Colleen could set you up with a nice jacket (if = money's a concern) - otherwise buy a cable lock and lock your gear to your bike. Brian=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: SCOTT Rush [mailto:SRUSH@XXXXXX]=20 > Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 4:56 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; exup@XXXXXX=20 > Subject: M/C Clothing question >=20 >=20 > Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website=20 > that sells all kinds of leather goods, including pants and=20 > jackets. They had a nice zip-up leather shirt for $129 that=20 > they said is good for when you want to ride but don't want to=20 > wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? >=20 > The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under=20 > Shirts - Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice=20 > pants too. >=20 > Scooter >=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 09:56:34 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00165 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:56:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103145800.26921.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 06:58:00 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 06:58:00 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: TODD PEER CALL ME IMMEDIATELY! (Not about the liner) To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX, DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry, it's not about the liner. It's about something else that was being discussed on the list. Not potatos either, but with seven ceiling fans in my house and two in my garage I'll have to be careful! Unfortunately my house and garage are in Mobile. ---WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > In a message dated 11/3/98 9:40:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > raymondlucas@XXXXXX writes: > > << I can't find your phone number or email address. > Ray Lucas > 410 762 6710 > I got some good news >> > > Sounds like someone found the liner. > > Jack > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:01:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00283 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:01:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18851 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA02075 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:01:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA02205; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:00:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981103150043.YTLY649@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:00:43 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: The quiche Was: Todd's jacket liner Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:59:04 -0500 Message-ID: <000801be073a$7fa3ee60$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <019b01be06bd$db80f5c0$314f37a6@default> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > I think someone "borrowed" my R1 at Todd's party. If > everyone can chip > in and help me replace it, I'd be very grateful............ seriously, > great idea Kirk, count me in. That's the least some of us could do. I > mean, all I did was drink some, ok, a lot of Todd's home brew and > nibbled on > some yummy food. Hmmm, beer munchies....... BTW, who started on Mark's > quiche? I thought that was gonna go untouched(eh-hem...Urselina...cough, > cough). > > Jon I think Ursulina admitted to it before. I admit it though, I had some later as well. Damn good too, for being eggs and ham. Made a tasty part of breakfast too :) Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:09:51 1998 Return-Path: cna00039@XXXXXX Received: from gold.wvnet.edu (gold.wvnet.edu [129.71.2.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00415 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from bill (129.71.51.35) by gold.wvnet.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.AE14FF50@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:14:02 -0500 Message-ID: <004b01be073b$fe82c340$23334781@bill> Reply-To: "Bill Sowers" From: "Bill Sowers" To: Subject: Party Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:08:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE0711.ECFB8E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE0711.ECFB8E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd: Invite me to your next party. I need to "pick up a few things". Hope you get the jacket back, buddy. That's a real bummer...... = =20 Bill Sowers =20 HSTA * FJ Owners Club * HRC * SWVA Retreads * AMA '91 Yamaha FJ1200 '88 Honda Hawk GT650 =20 http://www.localweb.com/mtrspts/ (Including 380 MC Links) =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE0711.ECFB8E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Invite me to your next party. I need = to=20 "pick up a few things".
 
 
Hope you get the jacket back, buddy. = That's a=20 real=20 bummer......          &= nbsp;       
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE0711.ECFB8E60-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:25:36 1998 Return-Path: sled@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00676 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:25:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA24833 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:25:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981103102024.00ae3c50@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:25:47 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wes Fleming Subject: RE: Law In-Reply-To: <199811031315.IAA27921@meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" i think i'd pay the ticket. for hating to drive/ride in traffic as much as i do, i think i'm pretty patient about it. i figure that by the time *I* get frustrated enough to go between cars, traffic's been sitting for a while and my only thought is to get off the highway. but i won't do it on my shadow (tried it once, had to replace a mirror). i haven't had the opportunity on my CB750 yet, but i'm looking forward to it. --w Wes Fleming, MA sled@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB-750 "Extra Sled" I've never been to good with names But I remember faces... From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:38:56 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00920 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:38:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA02374; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:39:22 -0500 Message-ID: <363F22E5.693772E5@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 15:36:05 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert L Moody CC: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: Re: Law X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <002301be0729$b07b8090$01010101@wotan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is one of the reasons I'm building a moped this winter. On a moped, both of those activities are legal in Virginia. Leon. Robert L Moody wrote: > > I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane splitting" wherein > a motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los Angeles and they > gave tips on how to do it "safely" . > > I spoke with an officer in Northern Virginia and he said he would write a > ticket for wreckless driving. > > I also ask him about going between cars that are stopped at a signal light > to get to the front of the line. He called that illegal passing. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:54:19 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01184 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:54:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031554.KAA01184@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:53:55 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: tis the season.. Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:51:19 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) to be buying bikes if you've got the cash.. I've seen tons of things hovering around the $2000 barier.. 2 87 VFRs.. 3~4 90~92 YZF600s, cb-1, secas... lots.. Look around if you don't believe me.. :) Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 10:55:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01202 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:54:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19621 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:54:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA04530 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 307; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:53:45 -0500 Message-ID: <363F274C.A58BB139@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:54:52 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman CC: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto References: <020101be06a4$c998f380$167aaccf@default> <363E197F.77C87A7F@illuminet.net> <363E21C6.7EEA006D@tidalwave.net> <363E25A8.F2FFEB62@illuminet.net> <363E2A38.FF705FBB@tidalwave.net> <363F0546.E46F6FF4@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I asked: > > > Paved? And Leon answered: > No! The goal on this ride is to find frozen gravel cowpaths. Why am I not surprised? :) Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:07:39 1998 Return-Path: louis@XXXXXX Received: from postal.clark.net (postal.clark.net [168.143.0.17]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01530 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:07:38 -0500 (EST) From: louis@XXXXXX Received: from shell.clark.net (clark.net [168.143.0.8]) by postal.clark.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16582; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21186; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:07:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031607.LAA21186@shell.clark.net> Subject: Those read and blue lights flashing... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List), cog@XXXXXX (COG Email) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:07:33 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text It's election day, and being a perfect American (ha!) I decided to go and vote. As I pulled up to the fire house where the vote was taking place, I searched for a parking spot. I noticed a police car behind me. Yikes, I'll be very carefull not to park in a bad spot. I saw one open space, but there was a fire hydrant near by, no no. Finally I did a U-turn and parked under some trees, being very carefull of the wet leaves. As I dismounted, the police car pulled up and turned it's lights on. Oh Crap!!! What did I do??? I asked if it was alright to park here, and he nodded. Then he said something I couldn't understand. I told him I did not have my hearing aids on. He came closer where I could speech read him better. He said he has a Concours too! (at least that is what I think he said) He was admiring my Givi bags and my Russell Saddle. Whew! I told him where I got the Givi, and who made the Russell. Too bad I had my hearing aids packed away, otherwise it could have been a nice conversation. (with the rain, I wanted them in a very water proof spot!) Stay dry (thanks Aerostich!) and Vote! Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/~louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | 7th Place, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:38:55 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA01992 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:36:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA18936; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981103163602.BAS649@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:36:02 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: Law Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: <001201be0747$cf956720$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <199811031315.IAA27921@meretrix.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal I agree, if you get caught...... But think about it for a minute. Unless it's a motorcop, chances are you won't get caught. That said, I RARELY split lanes in VA. The cage drivers tend to get a little ape-like and direct their aggressive tendencies my way. DC on the otherhand.....I do it all the time. Funny thing though, when I worked in DC, most of the traffic was from VA! Never got the same reactions I did from the same drivers while in DC. The cops in DC also seem to have higher priorities, or just don't perceive lane splitting/filtering as a crime against the state, and therefore the 'morals' of the body. Ha ha ha. VA is SOoooo tight-assed! Todd Brian McCoy wrote: > That may be the case.. but if you think about things logically.. > if traffic > is backed up to the point where you feel like lane splitting.. the cops > probably have something better to be doing with their time than attempting > to weed you out of traffic to give you a ticket.. > > I lane split only when my bike starts overheating from sitting > there.. which > means I do it about 5 times a year.. I've never 'filtered' (getting to the > front of a stoplight through stopped cars) - but I don't ever ride in the > city either, so I have no place or need to.. > > It's probably more a moral issue than anything.. but if you do it, and you > get a ticket.. just pay the damn thing and get on with it.. consider it > 'paying your dues' > > Brian McCoy > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane > > splitting" wherein > > a motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los > > Angeles and they > > gave tips on how to do it "safely" . > > > > I spoke with an officer in Northern Virginia and he said he > > would write a > > ticket for wreckless driving. > > > > I also ask him about going between cars that are stopped at a > > signal light > > to get to the front of the line. He called that illegal passing. > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:44:23 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA02116 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:44:20 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA23637; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:45:55 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma023488; Tue, 3 Nov 98 11:45:01 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1U00048UH7OV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:43:56 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B1.005B9423 ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:40:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:41:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Those read and blue lights flashing... To: louis@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Message-id: <852566B1.005B9192.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL NO WAY. I saw the police car pulling away. You voted at the firehouse on N. Paxton I presume, shortly after 8am? I also saw the Connie parked there. Louis we must live only a few blocks from each other. Strange ... -chris Red RF900r To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) , cog@XXXXXX (COG Email) cc: From: louis@XXXXXX Date: 11/03/98 04:07:33 PM GMT Subject: Those read and blue lights flashing... It's election day, and being a perfect American (ha!) I decided to go and vote. As I pulled up to the fire house where the vote was taking place, I searched for a parking spot. I noticed a police car behind me. Yikes, I'll be very carefull not to park in a bad spot. I saw one open space, but there was a fire hydrant near by, no no. Finally I did a U-turn and parked under some trees, being very carefull of the wet leaves. As I dismounted, the police car pulled up and turned it's lights on. Oh Crap!!! What did I do??? I asked if it was alright to park here, and he nodded. Then he said something I couldn't understand. I told him I did not have my hearing aids on. He came closer where I could speech read him better. He said he has a Concours too! (at least that is what I think he said) He was admiring my Givi bags and my Russell Saddle. Whew! I told him where I got the Givi, and who made the Russell. Too bad I had my hearing aids packed away, otherwise it could have been a nice conversation. (with the rain, I wanted them in a very water proof spot!) Stay dry (thanks Aerostich!) and Vote! Louis --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/~louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | 7th Place, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:46:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02157 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:46:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20354 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:46:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06084 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:46:28 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WNWPa13873 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:44:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:44:56 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Wow, this place must be OUT THERE. Hope its not TOO far. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:48:13 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02168 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:48:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by animal.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <4Y7ZYDV3>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:47:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'louis@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cog@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Those read and blue lights flashing... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:47:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Well, this is one of the little irritating things about police. When I was 16 and had my 1956 Chevy (big tires, baby moon hubcaps, glaspaks, rolled-and-pleated interior), I was always getting pulled over. They'd check my driver's license, walk around my car, hand me back my license and say, "Nice car." Of course, my friends would see me being pulled over and would rag me the next day about what happened. Never got a ticket, thank goodness, but it was like they had nothing better to do and would stop me just to look at my car. In fact, some were even known to stop attractive female drivers just to get a better look. In the military, we call that misuse of authority. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: louis@XXXXXX [mailto:louis@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 11:08 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; cog@XXXXXX Subject: Those read and blue lights flashing... It's election day, and being a perfect American (ha!) I decided to go and vote. As I pulled up to the fire house where the vote was taking place, I searched for a parking spot. I noticed a police car behind me. Yikes, I'll be very carefull not to park in a bad spot. I saw one open space, but there was a fire hydrant near by, no no. Finally I did a U-turn and parked under some trees, being very carefull of the wet leaves. As I dismounted, the police car pulled up and turned it's lights on. Oh Crap!!! What did I do??? I asked if it was alright to park here, and he nodded. Then he said something I couldn't understand. I told him I did not have my hearing aids on. He came closer where I could speech read him better. He said he has a Concours too! (at least that is what I think he said) He was admiring my Givi bags and my Russell Saddle. Whew! I told him where I got the Givi, and who made the Russell. Too bad I had my hearing aids packed away, otherwise it could have been a nice conversation. (with the rain, I wanted them in a very water proof spot!) Stay dry (thanks Aerostich!) and Vote! Louis ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Louis Caplan | DoD #1754 AMA #269779 | www.clark.net/~louis/cycle.htm Alexandria, VA | COG #2894 VCOM | 7th Place, Capitol 1000 louis@XXXXXX | '98 Kawasaki Concours | Mean Green Scream Machine From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:50:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02261 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20398 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:50:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (known imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06175 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:50:42 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WMZRa19214 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:49:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6759300e.363f3435@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:49:57 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/3/98 11:36:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, RLucas@XXXXXX writes: << 707 Ordnance Road, Glen Burnie, MD >> I really hate to sound like a complainer but thats a LONG ASS ride in the morning for most of us coming from northern VA and to be there at 9? Yikes, its way out there. Anybody know about how long it takes? Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 11:53:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA02287 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA20423 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:53:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (known imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA06270 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:53:31 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WOMSa19215 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:52:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <84cc3899.363f34e6@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:52:54 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandria Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/3/98 11:51:12 AM Eastern Standard Time, christopher.meier@XXXXXX writes: << I saw the police car pulling away. You voted at the firehouse on N. Paxton I presume, shortly after 8am? I also saw the Connie parked there. Louis we must live only a few blocks from each other. Strange ... >> Yeah even stranger, I live in the Alex area too and work on King St down by the Temple. Funny, I never really thought any of us lived near each other. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 12:02:55 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02455 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:02:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20582 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (known send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06582 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:02:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103170402.21154.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:04:02 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:04:02 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Glen Burnie is south of Balto. It's about 25 miles from the DC beltway if you take 295. (that's 40 km to you COllin) ---WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > Wow, this place must be OUT THERE. Hope its not TOO far. > > Jack > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 12:06:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02542 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20644 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:06:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06713 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:06:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16689; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:07:41 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0E3@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'WantAZX6@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: locations: RE: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandri a Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:07:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Speaking of this, Todd, do you have the map that we all stuck pins in with our home locations?? I'm guessing the idea was to compile some of the data digitally?? Maybe not home phone numbers and actual addresses (privacy info), but a digital map with red stars iindicating peoples locations would be really neat.... > -----Original Message----- > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX [SMTP:WantAZX6@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:05 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandria > > Funny, I never really thought any of us lived near each other. > > Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 12:13:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02661 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:13:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20763 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:13:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.us.pw.com (known pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA06892 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA06581; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:14:30 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma006339; Tue, 3 Nov 98 12:13:53 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1U002KEVS22N@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:12:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B1.005E23C4 ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:08:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:08:57 -0500 Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B1.005E128B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Yeah, it must similar to what all those folks in MD feel everytime we plan a ride in NoVa, or a party at Todd's ... lots of them seem to make it though. Hmmm, --chris Alex, VA. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Date: 11/03/98 04:49:57 PM GMT Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. In a message dated 11/3/98 11:36:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, RLucas@XXXXXX writes: << 707 Ordnance Road, Glen Burnie, MD >> I really hate to sound like a complainer but thats a LONG ASS ride in the morning for most of us coming from northern VA and to be there at 9? Yikes, its way out there. Anybody know about how long it takes? Jack ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 12:37:52 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02997 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:37:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811031737.MAA02997@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:37:33 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: ERC Class: The When and Where. Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:34:50 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) I thought it was normal to expect to ride 60~100 miles to get to the meeting place of where a ride starts.. well, till I started making rides by myself in MD.. and found my round trip mileage was cut usualy in half.. with the same amount of fun.. :P >From the top of the beltway (97/295/95 north) it'll take you about 30 minutes - how long it takes you to get to the top of the beltway is for you to figure out. Brian > -----Original Message----- > > Yeah, it must similar to what all those folks in MD feel > everytime we plan > a ride in NoVa, or a party at Todd's ... lots of them seem to make it > though. > > Hmmm, > In a message dated 11/3/98 11:36:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, > RLucas@XXXXXX writes: > > << 707 Ordnance Road, Glen Burnie, MD >> > > I really hate to sound like a complainer but thats a LONG ASS > ride in the > morning for most of us coming from northern VA and to be there at 9? > Yikes, > its way out there. > Anybody know about how long it takes? > > Jack > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other > use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any > computer. > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 13:29:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03673 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:29:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21772 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:29:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09513 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:29:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA22472; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:30:54 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0E5@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Ray'" , WantAZX6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: ERC Class: The When and Where. Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:30:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Man, I'm never gonna live that one down am I :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:12 PM > To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. > > > (that's 40 km to you COllin) > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 13:43:54 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03962 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:43:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21983 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:43:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (known send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA09916 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:43:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981103184352.19989.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:43:52 PST Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:43:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: ERC Class: The When and Where. To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , WantAZX6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm sure you can find a refresher course in metric conversion in grad school. The only celius/farenheit you'll need to know up there: 0C = 32F I prefer the Kelvin scale: "Hey, Kelvin, go outside and see how cold it is!" ---"Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: > > Man, I'm never gonna live that one down am I :) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:12 PM > > To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. > > > > > > (that's 40 km to you COllin) > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 14:14:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04397 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:14:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA22455 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:14:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA11393 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:13:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA20670; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981103190253.BSHI649@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:02:53 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , , Subject: RE: locations: RE: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandria Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:01:12 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01be075c$52cffa60$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0E3@MSCEX> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Yep, that was the idea! I've been pretty busy lately, but I'm going to use Street Atlas 5. to get people listed. I'll post something with info limited to name/email to the web, and offer the SA5 file to those who have SA5. Don't ask when this will happen, I don't know. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [mailto:cfagan@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:08 PM > To: 'WantAZX6@XXXXXX'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: locations: RE: Those read and blue lights flashing... - > alexandria > > > Speaking of this, Todd, do you have the map that we all stuck pins in with > our home locations?? I'm guessing the idea was to compile some > of the data > digitally?? Maybe not home phone numbers and actual addresses (privacy > info), but a digital map with red stars iindicating peoples > locations would > be really neat.... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX [SMTP:WantAZX6@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:05 PM > > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: Those read and blue lights flashing... - alexandria > > > > Funny, I never really thought any of us lived near each other. > > > > Jack > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 15:13:11 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05412 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA23415 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:13:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.radix.net (known mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA13320 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:13:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [209.48.224.40]) by mail1.radix.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA29348 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:13:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:12:09 -0500 (EST) From: Dawn Gibson To: DC Cycles Subject: Hardbags, they're HERE! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My hardbags came in from Champion Sidecar in California. This is a brand new product for the Virago and they really look sharp! If anyone is interested in seeing what they look like, Champion finally put them on its web page at http://www.championsidecars.com/hardbags/viragoliberty.cfm or you can email me and I'll reply with a pic or two of mine. I didn't want to take up bandwidth sending them to the whole list. Dawn '96 Virago 1100 Special, Knowmad (ain't I purdy now!) *====================================================================* from the mist and shadows, like a memory of things to come.... to wander the paths of moonlight on water, in search of honesty, empathy, beaches at sunrise, mountains under stars and eyes to laugh back at mine... *====================================================================* Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX *====================================================================* From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 15:31:50 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05716 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.64.42]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981103203116.ECJE9083@wotan> for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:31:16 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: "MC DC Cycles Submit" Subject: Rain Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:31:38 -0500 Message-ID: <001101be0768$f51945e0$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Any one know where I can get a wax called "Crystal Clear"? It's put on the outside of the face shield. By turning the head sideways while moving, rain drops are cleared from the shield by the wind. Thanks, Rob From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 16:30:52 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06666 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:30:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:30:38 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 03 Nov 1998 16:27:46 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 03 Nov 1998 16:27:46 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 032A8363F7552016-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 032A8363F7552016 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <032A8363F7552016*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 03 Nov 1998 16:27:46 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: RE: Rain Message-Id: <032A8363F7552016*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Sounds like Rain-X, which can be picked up virtually anywhere. I've never heard of Crystal Clear, but I have used Rain-X on my clear shield and it does work. Don B -----Original Message----- From: Robert L Moody [SMTP:robmoody@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 3:55 PM To: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: Rain Any one know where I can get a wax called "Crystal Clear"? It's put on the outside of the face shield. By turning the head sideways while moving, rain drops are cleared from the shield by the wind. Thanks, Rob From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 16:43:55 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06891 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA13173; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:44:36 -0500 Message-ID: <363F787B.540E77F4@illuminet.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 21:41:15 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert L Moody CC: MC DC Cycles Submit Subject: Re: Rain X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <001101be0768$f51945e0$01010101@wotan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert L Moody wrote: > > Any one know where I can get a wax called "Crystal Clear"? It's put on the > outside of the face shield. By turning the head sideways while moving, rain > drops are cleared from the shield by the wind. On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. It's also always available, there's always a can of it in the house somewhere. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:02:37 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07226 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:02:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 257; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:01:22 -0500 Message-ID: <363F7D74.C804F6EA@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:02:28 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leon Begeman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Rain References: <001101be0768$f51945e0$01010101@wotan> <363F787B.540E77F4@illuminet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leon Begeman wrote: > > On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. Does it help resist fogging? Just curious. Now if I could past that darned "Lemon Fresh" smell... :( Horkster, tired of using the Rain-X anti fog stuff every couple of days... -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:06:47 1998 Return-Path: ramsr@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.microsoft.com (mail1.microsoft.com [131.107.3.125]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07340 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:06:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by INET-IMC-01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:06:12 -0800 Message-ID: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> From: "Ram K. Srinivasan" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: hi - need help :) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:06:04 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Greetings All! I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. :) Just finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. Need some advice on a few topics: 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is taught in the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with a plain learners permit, right?) 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does anyone else here have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't have a manual? Could some kind soul, possibly xerox his/hers for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying charges etc? 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money on it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice on much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good helmets? (brandnames etc?) Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? Please do a direct reply to me too! many thanx & look forward to hanging out with you guys. -Ram :) ---------------------------------------- Rám Srinivasan Microsoft Corp. W: 202-895-2109 ramsr@XXXXXX ---------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:11:50 1998 Return-Path: mdpetty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07419 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:11:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <46K8T3R4>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:07:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: "'cycles'" Subject: RE: Rain Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:07:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > From: Leon Begeman [SMTP:mrider@XXXXXX] > > Robert L Moody wrote: > > > > Any one know where I can get a wax called "Crystal Clear"? It's put > on the > > outside of the face shield. By turning the head sideways while > moving, rain > > drops are cleared from the shield by the wind. > > On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. It's > also > always available, there's always a can of it in the house somewhere. > If you believe that, you've never lived like a bachelor like I lived as a bachelor. I won't go into the unpleasant details, but for a while it seemed that we had decided that it was easier to move than to clean. -mark '83 V65 Magna From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:18:15 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07545 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:18:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA25638 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:18:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA18680 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA16598; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:17:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981103221716.DZRB649@XXXXXX>; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:17:16 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Dawn Gibson" , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: Hardbags, they're HERE! Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:15:35 -0500 Message-ID: <002b01be0777$7af48360$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Very cool! I never had saddlebags on my Shadow, but I've had 'em on my NiteHawk. Not very sturdy after all (soft sidebags). The ST comes with them integrated and removeable like luggage. I've gotten so used to them and love them Todd Dawn Gibson Wrote: > > > My hardbags came in from Champion Sidecar in California. This is a brand > new product for the Virago and they really look sharp! If anyone is > interested in seeing what they look like, Champion finally put them on its > web page at > > http://www.championsidecars.com/hardbags/viragoliberty.cfm > From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:36:07 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07882 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:36:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:37:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:36:43 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, ramsr@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline >>> "Ram K. Srinivasan" 11/03/98 05:06PM=20 > > >Greetings All! Hello. >I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. :) Just >finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. Need some advice on = a >few topics: You came to the right place for that. >1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA = (due >to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go = get >a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not >being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is = taught >n the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would >rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a = problem >on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with = a >plain learners permit, right?)=20 When I took it, the instructor said that the MD MVA will usually take it. = Don't know though. You can ride anywhere on a learner's permit. You just = can't ride after dark. >3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money = on >it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice = on >much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good >helmets? (brandnames etc?) I like Shoei but it's all a matter of personal comfort. Arai's are good = too. Both will run you in the $200-$500 range but well worth it. >Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? There's usually a ride every weekend hosted by someone different each = time. Usually Anita though, she's got some pretty good rides put = together. >Please do a direct reply to me too! =20 OK >many thanx & look forward to hanging out with you guys. > >-Ram :) No Problemo Batman. Hey guys, Look! He works for Microsoft. Tell Bill I said Hi. :-) >---------------------------------------- >R=DFm Srinivasan >Microsoft Corp. >W: 202-895-2109 >ramsr@XXXXXX=20 >---------------------------------------- Scooter From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:38:31 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07912 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:39:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:39:22 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: mrider@XXXXXX, Horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline That's an interesting little trick. I've never heard of that. Does it = smear or distort the view? Scooter >>> Dale Horstman 11/03/98 05:02PM >>> Leon Begeman wrote: >=20 > On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. Does it help resist fogging? Just curious. Now if I could past that darned "Lemon Fresh" smell... :( Horkster, tired of using the Rain-X anti fog stuff every couple of days... --=20 Dale Horstman (the Horkster) =20 horkster@XXXXXX =20 Dale City, Virginia =20 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" =20 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:46:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08049 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA26074 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:46:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (known imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA20261 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:46:21 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WAGa017824 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:45:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:45:23 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: hi - need help :) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Welcome Ram! I started riding on a GS500 as well. Great learner bike! Unfortunately I sold mine along with the manual quite awhile ago. We get together quite often for rides usually during the summer tho. Glad to have you aboard! Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:49:33 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08067 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:49:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-40-44.s44.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.44]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25688; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:49:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363F8B47.517C@iname.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:01:27 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) References: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: > Greetings All! Hello. = > I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. = > :) Just finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. = > Need some advice on a few topics: > = > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took = > was in VA (due to lack of availability this year in MD). = > Now I'm qualified in VA to go get a license. How much = > headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not being in = > VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is = > taught in the both states. I'm basically trying to = > expediate things, and would rather not have to take the = > skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem on its own, = > 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself = > with a plain learners permit, right?) Here I cannot help you. I have an Idaho DL and have no ideas abou the requirements here. = > 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does = > anyone else here have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't = > have a manual? Could some kind soul, possibly xerox his/hers = > for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying charges etc? I have a GS400, but not only am I sure that they are not even close to the same, but I don't have the book for it either. But, I might be able to help. LilBkrBabe has a URL that she gave me (and I lost) that has all sorts of motorcycle mailing list, including this one. But, there was one for Suzuki's that the guy had a web page with all sorts of information. I didn't save the info, either. HEY LEE, CAN YOU HELP ME HERE!!!! > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend = > gobs of money on it....but at the same time don't want to = > compromise safety? Any advice on much I could spend (so I = > don't get ripped off) and any particulary good helmets? = > (brandnames etc?) I better not get started here on my views on helmets except that any helmet will just about guarantee a neck injury... = > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners = > here? I am new on the list, but from what I have seen, the people do get together. I know two of us (so far) are getting together on Veterans Day to ride over to DE. As for being a beginner, we all were at one time or another. Now, I think my ass has become the same shape as my bike's seat.... = > Please do a direct reply to me too! Done > R=E1m Srinivasan > Microsoft Corp. Microsoft, eh? I'm sorry.... -- = Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 17:57:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA08255 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:57:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA26311 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:57:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (known imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA20913 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:57:51 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WDZAa04680 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:56:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <89667524.363f8a34@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:56:52 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Fwd: hi - need help :) Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part0_910133813_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_910133813_boundary Content-ID: <0_910133813@XXXXXX> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_910133813_boundary Content-ID: <0_910133813@XXXXXX> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: LungHD@XXXXXX Return-path: To: ramsr@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:54:51 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Welcome! - Helmets are a matter of personal preference for your riding style, talk to your local shop dealer & make sure it's DOT and preferably also SNELL approved. I'm sure the guys here will have plenty of advice on brand names & prices. Somebody'll probably have a line on your manual too. RE the Moto Safety Course, if ya took it in VA & are moving to VA just go to DMV in VA. No worries that way & no need to bring a bike for DMV crash & burn. (Which I did, er, did NOT do years ago. Not that I'd admit it. Ever. Thank god that this did not happen after I did not go in for the test. Nor did I skulk outta the lot before not going in since I was not now missing signal lenses before I did not dump the bike in the DMV lot that was not wet when I was not there. Also, not one of you have read this, nor did you believe it when you didn't read it.) not Lung --part0_910133813_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:29:38 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08718 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:29:20 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr32-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.74.251]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33507) with SMTP id <0F1V00NOUD7G0X@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:28:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:30:42 -0500 Subject: Re: tis the season.. To: "'dc'" Message-id: <008d01be0781$fafcce00$fb4a37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >to be buying bikes if you've got the cash.. I've seen tons of things >hovering around the $2000 barier.. 2 87 VFRs.. 3~4 90~92 YZF600s, cb-1, >secas... lots.. > >Look around if you don't believe me.. :) > >Brian McCoy Yup, saw a 85' V45 Magna with 11k for $700 in the Baltimore Sun. Wonder what it looks like........ Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:31:18 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA08777 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:31:14 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id SAA04025; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:33:01 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma003936; Tue, 3 Nov 98 18:32:34 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1V00DOYDCKTT@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:31:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B1.0080E4C9 ; Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:27:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:27:39 -0500 Subject: New Rider To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B1.0080E420.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi all! Like Ram, I am also a new rider. I took the MSF course a few months ago and have been riding since then on my '92 Yamaha Seca II. I'm also interested in going on some group rides as long as they're ones in which I'll be free to ride my own pace. From reading some of the archives, this doesn't sound like it should be too much of a problem. I live in the Manassas area, so if you see a bright red Seca rider with a black Shoei around there, give a wave. Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:39:03 1998 Return-Path: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08919 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:38:59 -0500 (EST) From: JKBroga@XXXXXX Received: from JKBroga@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3SOKa29185 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:38:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:38:07 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: New Guy - GS500/New guy VTR1000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 1. I know nothing about the resiprocity (sp?)between states on RSF courses. Sorry! 2. If no one has a manual for you a shop can order one for you for cheap. Get the service manual anyway. Thats where all the real useful info is. 3. The only helmet I'll buy is Arai. It's the most comfortable and feels the most secure for my head. They generally are the most expensive, but as some say, "if you have a $100 head, buy a $100 helmet." The helmet, jacket, and gloves are not the place to go cheap. Another good quote is "Dress for the crash, not for the ride" Arai's quality is impeccable, plus for me Arai has the best fit, and that will become more important the more you ride. Lastly, I'm new to the list too and would like to go on some group rides if there are any. I live in Loudoun County and ride a VTR1000. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:44:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09034 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:44:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA26995 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:44:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.151]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA22278 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:44:28 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr32-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.74.251]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F1V00O8PDWQT8@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:43:44 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:45:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Hardbags, they're HERE! To: Todd Peer , DC Cycles Message-id: <011001be0784$1af69e00$fb4a37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Very cool! I never had saddlebags on my Shadow, but I've had 'em on my >NiteHawk. >Todd What the heck is a "NiteHawk"???? 8^P Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 18:50:51 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.151]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA09180 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:50:48 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr32-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.74.251]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F1V007GVE7K7C@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:50:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:52:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Sun To: Robert L Moody , MC DC Cycles Submit Message-id: <013601be0785$0334f680$fb4a37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I >put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not >an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the >shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? > >Rob Moody www.troyleedesigns.com they have sun visors for your shield. I saw Todd Peer with electrical tape on his...... Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:02:40 1998 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09394 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:02:31 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3WIUa03785 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:00:59 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:00:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 Hello, I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when three new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak up. I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at http://www.leatherexcahnge.com thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:03:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09409 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA27239 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:02:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (known pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA22717 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:02:48 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr32-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.74.251]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33510) with SMTP id <0F1V00CKIER7IY@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:02:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 19:04:08 -0500 Subject: Re: The quiche Was: Todd's jacket liner To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <014401be0786$a8736720$fb4a37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >I think Ursulina admitted to it before. I admit it though, I had some later >as well. Damn good too, for being eggs and ham. Made a tasty part of >breakfast too :) > >Todd Breakfast? I thought you'd be having something that would cure your hangover. 8^) Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:17:11 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09642 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:17:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA27436 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:17:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (known imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA23073 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:16:57 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WCYUa29185 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:15:54 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <62e1b96a.363f9cba@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:15:54 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: New Guy - GS500/New guy VTR1000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 << Lastly, I'm new to the list too and would like to go on some group rides if there are any. I live in Loudoun County and ride a VTR1000. >> Uh ohhh......my ears start to ring when I hear that name. Mine: It is thou, my arch enemy, the VTR1000 His: I see you havent changed a bit since our last confrontation Mine: As neither have you, PREPARE TO DUEL! (as only big bore VTwins can). HAHA Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:38:19 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA09996 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:38:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14014; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:38:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36402B45.9EF84DB9@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 05:24:05 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Heilesen CC: "Ram K. Srinivasan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) References: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> <363F8B47.517C@iname.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend > > gobs of money on it....but at the same time don't want to > > compromise safety? Any advice on much I could spend (so I > > don't get ripped off) and any particulary good helmets? > > (brandnames etc?) > > I better not get started here on my views on helmets except that any > helmet will just about guarantee a neck injury... Without starting the flame battle on helmets again, nor scaring the poor newbie to death with unsubtantiatable facts, let's just leave it at the fact that in MD, VA, and DC the current law is that you have to wear a helmet. If you don't like it join groups such as ABATE,etc. that lobby against it as well as write your politicians. -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 19:53:41 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA10216 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:53:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29874; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:53:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36402F08.F986B2B7@geocities.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 05:40:08 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) References: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: > > Greetings All! Howdy back at ya... > > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due > to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get > a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not > being in VA? I too cannot help on this one... Oregon residency just has too many perks for me to switch over (I'm military and it's my legal state of residency) > > 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does anyone else here > have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't have a manual? Could some kind > soul, possibly xerox his/hers for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying > charges etc? The GS500 has been around long enough that there should be Clymer and Hanes manuals available for them which will be pretty cheap and nearly as good as a factory manual (sometimes better). I'd also highly recommend getting a parts microfische for it as the pics on those are better than any in the manuals (then print out hard copies of each frame) (The dreaded Colemans had em for $4) > > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money on > it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice on > much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good > helmets? (brandnames etc?) Arai is generally considered top of the line(extremely light). AGV and Shoei are generally mid line models, but just as good on safety. HJC and Bieffe make excellent low end helmets, but you pay for it a bit in comfort... HJC's are great and only cost about $130 for solid colors, but they are very heavy. Definitely try one on before buying... Some folks have Shoei shaped head (I ain't one of em) and others have an Arai shaped head... For Solid colors ( and my numbers are rough and for full face helmets) you're looking at around $350+ for Arai, $150 to $250 for Shoei, and less than $150 for Shoei/Bieffe/Bell (Bell and Bieffe made in the same factory these days) Coleman Powersports in Falss Church wil have a great selection to look at, but their prices are way overboard. If you've got the time, youmight head out to Valley Cycles in Winchester. They are waaaaaay cheaper, and generally have lots in stock. You might also get lucky and catch them with a sale on a discontinued style (they had some awesome Bell M2's last summer for $105...too bad I was broke) > > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? > plenty of folks at all ranges of the spectrum. Iv'e been riding around 16 years, but I always am learning something new (specially when driving anywhere in the metro area). Also, a couple of us on the list are racers as well....so if ya like that sort of thing, ya better come out to the track to cheer us on next summer :) There's generally a group ride or three going on all the time... In the summer time, there tends to be many ides available every weekend, so the size of the groups tends to be smaller... As the colder months approach, I've noticed that the group size gets bigger due to less rides (ie dc-cycles are the only nuts out riding in groups..all the dealers just sponser em in summer..) Welcome aboard.... Collin -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:08:14 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10431 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:08:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-142-142.s142.tnt21.brd.erols.com [207.172.142.142]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00613; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:08:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <004901be0797$e700d480$8e8eaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Gil M. Nissley" , Subject: Re: insurance... Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:07:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 They only offer the course up at Fort Meade and Fort Belvoir....the Belvoir class is supposedly full until after Christmas....The reason I want to take the course on base for those who are wondering is that it is free, because it is mandatory....or atleast it used to be???? the Navy Yard and Bolling also told me that my course cert. was outdated.....I took the course in Sep. of 90 when I was stationed in VA. Beach...the insurance company...(Progressive) also said for their purposes the cert. needs to be done every 3 years..doesn't sound right to me..maybe they have someone who offers the course and they split the profits......Les Kat 750 besides according to the Provost Marshall(army thing) my MSF certificate which is about 4 years old is not current enough to ride the bike on base....Les Kat 750.. Sounds goofy to me.My card is from '90 and I've never been hassled. Why not just take the course again? The official BuellBoy Genes model. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:13:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10538 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA28308 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA24425 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:41 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WHFNa07909 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:09 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:09 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: hi - need help :) -helmet Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/3/98 8:47:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gixer@XXXXXX writes: << Without starting the flame battle on helmets again, nor scaring the poor newbie to death with unsubtantiatable facts, let's just leave it at the fact that in MD, VA, and DC the current law is that you have to wear a helmet. If you don't like it join groups such as ABATE,etc. that lobby against it as well as write your politicians. >> Good suggestion Collin. The emphasis should definitely be on the fact that in this area you are REQUIRED by law to wear one. If you dont like it, good for you, bitch and moan and complain and mumble...but you still have to wear it. Jack From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:15:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10580 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA28317 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:15:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA24449 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:15:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-142-142.s142.tnt21.brd.erols.com [207.172.142.142]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA04413; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:14:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006a01be0798$dd195180$8e8eaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Kirk Roy" , Subject: Re: Todd's jacket liner Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:14:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Good Idea Kirk....tell us when and where to send the cash...Thanx Les Kat 750 Andy Goldfine (owner of the RiderWearhouse/Aerostich) has offered us a 20% discount on the purchase of a replacement liner for Todd. Woo hoo! This is a company that makes great gear, has incredible customer service, and they even have a heart... I will give everyone another couple of days to get on the list to help split the cost of replacing Todd's stolen liner. After that point we'll make the order. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:26:36 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10708 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:26:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-142-142.s142.tnt21.brd.erols.com [207.172.142.142]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA10767 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:26:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006f01be079a$7c1595e0$8e8eaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "'dc'" Subject: Re: Law Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:26:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Lane Splitting.... I ride to work just about everyday and have seen guys...usually on Harleys or Wings get on the shoulder lane and pass everyone.....I don't do it myself..and my bike is air cooled and does get hot sometimes...IMHO its bad etiquette... besides after people in the cages see the bikes go by and get pissed they tend to inch a little closer to my back tire.....doesn't bother me, if they hit my tire and knock me over in bumper to bumper traffic they better run over me or I will probably kill them with my helmet or boots..I can take just about any lil D.C. nerd...especially the ones in the volvo's that have no mirrors or turn signals.....just a thought.....Les Kat 750 Even when I lived in San Diego, Kalifornia..I didn't lane split or creep at lights....however I have cut across the medium and over side walks on my dual sport...sounds hypocritical doesn't it...that was when I was young and stupid.... From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 20:44:54 1998 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11084 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:44:53 -0500 (EST) From: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from default (207-172-32-2.s2.as9.rkv.erols.com [207.172.32.2]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA21386 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:44:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <363FD55B.70E2@erols.com> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 20:17:31 -0800 Reply-To: rdrdr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 11/02/98 References: <199811030000.TAA15450@meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey - sounds good for my DR650 !!! Just waiting on my new clutch. >OK. here's my part. Let's go ride some twisty roads. I know of a road >with some really tight switchbacks. It's Ridge Road in western Prince >William County; about a half dozen first gear switchbacks going up the >side of Bull Run Mountain. Using one of Chris Norloff's winter riding >rules, "you know you're a winter rider when gravel in the turns looks >good because you know it isn't as slippery as ice" This road is never >slippery in the summer, and most of the time it's just as good in the >winter.> > >I'll watch the weather report and plan a route that is close to >Jeannette and Tom yet is sure to include some relatively rough unpaved >roads. Better weather will insure more miles. From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 21:17:46 1998 Return-Path: wes@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11593 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:17:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mary-ann (207-172-223-204.s204.tnt5.man.erols.com [207.172.223.204]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA13172 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:17:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811040217.VAA13172@smtp3.erols.com> X-Sender: wes@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 21:11:10 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: wes Subject: Re: hi - need help :) In-Reply-To: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My advice would be to go with a Shoei. Great helmet. You can sometimes find really good helmets for a lower price because they're on clearance -- last year's model or an unpopular color or just plain overstock. More advice would be to remember that it's your *head* you're protecting. Get the best helmet you can afford. If you have to spend an few dozen extra $$$, somewhere down the road it could save you $$$ in hospital bills. DOT & Snell ratings are a must. Do some research and get a helmet you *trust*. I use a Shoei RF-800 for that reason. --wes >3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money on >it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice on >much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good >helmets? (brandnames etc?) wes@XXXXXX '96 Shadow / '78 CB750K "oh, i can't change what i am right now but i'll be fine in the next life" -- i mother earth From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 21:49:53 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA11998 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:49:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA29687 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:49:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from camel7.mindspring.com (known camel7.mindspring.com [207.69.200.57]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA26477 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:49:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from hgg (user-37kbm48.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.216.136]) by camel7.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA28114 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:49:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981103215038.007eb300@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 21:50:38 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:11 PM 11/3/98 -0500, wes wrote: >My advice would be to go with a Shoei. The only caveat to that is that people seem to have either a Shoei head or an Arai head. Shoei fits better on rounder heads (viewed from above), while Arai does better on a more oval head. All my previous helmets were from Shoei. They fit very snugly against my forehead, though relativley loose around my cheeks. I used to get a red dot in the middle of my forehead after a hour or so. I tried on an Arai and it fit so much better. I'll never wear anything else (unless my head shape changes!). Others I know have had the reverse experience. Conclusion: try a bunch of brands to find one that fits well all over. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 23:29:33 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13467 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:29:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA00977 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id XAA28416 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:29:24 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WNBRa07909 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:28:48 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:28:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: tis the season.. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Hey everyone, maybe you can help me out..... I'm looking to buy a new bike, (well, new to me anyways....not necessarily showroom new...) and would be more appreciative if you can let me know of any interesting bikes that you might happen to hear about. I'm trying to stay under 3 grand, and not really interested in cruisers. The Grandpa-Ceptor I ride now, ('83), is around 550 lbs. and 60 hp....I'd like a little less of the former and a little more of the latter. Thanks for any and all possible assistance! Dress warm kids! -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 23:33:40 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13508 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:33:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00780; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:29:56 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:25:54 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: M/C Clothing question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, SCOTT Rush wrote: > Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website that sells all kinds of leather goods, including pants and jackets. They had a nice zip-up leather shirt for $129 that they said is good for when you want to ride but don't want to wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? > The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under Shirts - Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice pants too. JMHO,but I think I'd rather buy my protective gear from a place that sells to racers;not one that makes leather roses and g-strings. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 23:38:29 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13624 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:38:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00810; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:34:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:30:36 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: Ray cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19981103121652.3782.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > I got stopped at the gate at > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, so > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Tue Nov 3 23:44:18 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA13712 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:44:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA00845; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:40:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:37:09 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Sun To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <002401be0729$b4f8a440$01010101@wotan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Robert L Moody wrote: > When I ride into the sun I get blinded. I don't want a cop-style visor so I > put some duct tape across my shield and that works fine. However, it is not > an elegant, fashionable solution. I tried a plastic sheet that clings to the > shield but it was not dark enough. Any ideas? Two ideas.One,put some tape on the inside of the visor so it won't be too visible(black would look best).Two,get one of those strip decals that are made for this.I saw them a couple years ago in a Lockhart catalog.They're decals that go across the top of the shield and usually mave manufacturers' logos or summat.Check the decal pages in a Dennis Kirk catalog and you might find them. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 00:08:49 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA14054 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:08:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA02536 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:08:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA29247 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:08:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.43]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 00:05:43 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: ERC Class: The When and Where. Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 00:11:11 -0500 Message-ID: <006101be07b1$898d57a0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6759300e.363f3435@aol.com> Bitch, moan, whine. Takes about 35 minutes, if there's no radar traps. From Waldorf, that is. :) And this is a free service. Can't complain but so much. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Anybody know about how long it takes? > > Jack > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 01:01:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA14782 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA03183 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00171 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:01:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 00:58:33 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: SilverWing Page Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:04:02 -0500 Message-ID: <007701be07b8$eb8e48e0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Found this. Don't know if it is for the CX and GL, or just the GL. http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/7297/ ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 01:17:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA14979 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:17:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA03346 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00416 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:17:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 01:14:40 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Anybody ride Hampton Roads area? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <007a01be07bb$2b5ac3c0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal http://sony.inergy.com/vger1200/ ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 01:19:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA14989 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:19:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA03362 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:19:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA00453 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:19:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 01:16:39 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Anybody buy a bike from them? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 01:22:07 -0500 Message-ID: <007b01be07bb$7265b720$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal http://www.toad.net/~usedbike/ ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 02:03:31 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA15708 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:03:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA03810 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:03:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id CAA00997 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:03:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id for ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 02:00:22 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "DC Cycles Mailing List" Subject: a net mag for all of us Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 02:05:41 -0500 Message-ID: <007c01be07c1$88812480$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal http://www.squidlys.com/ ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 05:34:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA19848 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:34:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA05974 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:34:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA03359 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:34:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from pm1-19.dial.nova.org (pm1-19.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.147]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id FAA18435 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 05:33:24 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:39:29 GMT Message-ID: <36442e2a.122148887@beta.nova.org> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Woo hoo! After considering the different satellite options in order to get Speedvision it's finally coming to Jones Cable in PG County. December 1st is supposed to be the first day... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 07:19:31 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA21290 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:19:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811041219.HAA21290@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:19:22 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, ramsr@XXXXXX Subject: RE: hi - need help :) (specific to helmets) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 04:15:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Ram - Basically, you're going to want to stick with 2 or 3 different brands. Those would be AGV, Arai, and Shoie. AGV might turn out to be the type of helmet that's still pretty affordable with some features (like venting) - but my experiences with them have shown that they don't last well with extended use, and the fit and finish is low. Between Shoie and Arai - I think they're about equal in fit and finish, and close on price. They both make several 'levels' of helmet to fit different price ranges - with the main difference being the removal of some venting. These 2 makers form the inside of the helmet for different shaped heads - and the only way you'll know what kind of head you have is to try them on. Personally, I'm an Arai head (Cro-Magnon - flat forehead, rather than sloped). Arai has a model NR2 that's a great first lid - runs about $170 (that's what my shop has it for at least) in solid colors. Shoie has an equivalent in the RFR - I paid $130 for my solid white one - I'm unhappy with the fit, the 'ratchet' mechanism (for the shield) and the shield optics.. but it's a race-only (well, does passenger duty sometimes) lid.. so I live with it.. plus it's cheap to replace if I crash. Arai then has the Signet and Shoie the RF-800 - these are probably the most popular of the brands helmets just because they combine price and features.. I know nothing about either helmet. Then you get up to the Arai Quantum and the Shoie x-9, top of the line STREET lids - top dollar price (Arai is about $400 for a solid color, Shoie's are $50 less). VERY comfortable helmets, durable, good venting, long lasting, impeccable fit and finish (Lets put it this way, I've been wearing my Arai for 4 years - umm.. almost EVERY DAY for 4 years and it's still quite, comfortable and works very well). Then you've got the Arai RX-RR3 (or somesuch) that's a pure-bread race lid.. the vents are designed to work best at speeds of over 80mph.. pricey, looks cool as hell though. Your best bet right now is to make your way to a shop and try on the helmets.. both Shoie and Arai.. you'll find one you like.. Do some price checks with moto-rags and either buy mail-order or local (my shop can keep it within 10-15% of mail-order most times.. so I buy from them a lot.. they ARE my local shop.. always there for me when I need them). If I were you though, I'd focus on the Arai NR2 or the Shoie RFR/RF-800 (might even be able to find some closeout RF-700/RF-200s which are discontinued models). As for Snake and his neck injuries.. well, come out to Summit Point next year and cornerwork one day. Watch team DC-Cycles Racing, pick up some fallen riders and have a conversation about the deep gouges they just put in their new helmets. Same goes for anyone who thinks helmets are dangerous. (Yes, I believe in the freedom of choice and therefore hate the laws - bah). Brian McCoy >>> "Ram K. Srinivasan" 11/03/98 05:06PM > >3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend > gobs of money on > >it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? > Any advice on > >much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any > particulary good > >helmets? (brandnames etc?) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 08:04:18 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21934 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:04:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0CC7A20250; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:04:12 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981104080935.00fc4dd0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:09:42 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Fwd: Fw: Practical joke for this weekend... (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> ------- Forwarded Message >> [ headers removed...] >> >> >> > When John Glenn returns from space, everybody dress in Ape Suits. >> > >> > Pass it on. >> >> >> ------- End of Forwarded Message From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 08:04:16 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA21932 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:04:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0C97A20250; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:04:09 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981104074724.00fa1180@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 07:52:35 -0500 To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: hi - need help :) In-Reply-To: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:06 PM 11/3/98 , Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: >1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due >to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get >a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not >being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is taught >in the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would >rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem >on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with a >plain learners permit, right?) The MD test is given on the student bikes right after the course (at least a couple years ago when I last taught there). This test is conducted by an examiner, who is probably also one of the instructors, and is open only to the students who just completed the course. To take that test, you have to take the student course (and pass it and have a learner's permit). To take the MD test yourself requires you provide the motorcycle, and prove you got it to the MVA legally - in a truck, on a trailer, or you're with someone over age 21 holding a valid motorcycle license. Go ahead and take the test on your 500 - you've got little to lose, and you'll probably do fine. (Go practice the test on weekends when the MVA is closed). If for some reason you don't make it, then take the course again. Or use your new VA address and just show them your MSF completion card - I believe that's all they require after the learner's permit to get your license. 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I knew it was too good to be true! :( :( :( Well, at least I won't have to worry about learning new sections of the home track next season.... > -----Original Message----- > From: BSR, Inc. [SMTP:bsr@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 4:38 PM > To: Fagan, Collin LTJG > Cc: 'office@XXXXXX' > Subject: Re: Summit Point repaving > > At 08:49 AM 10/28/98 -0500, Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: > >First off, I would like to extend a huge thank you to those responsible > for > >all the upgrades made over the past two seasons and the upgrades underway > >this winter. The new pavement in turns 3 through 5 was incredible. It > was > >comforting coming through that section knowing you could count on > traction. > > > >For the new pavement being added, it would be wonderful if you could > >continue on through turn 10. There are some very nasty grooves through > turn > >9, and about halfway up the hill to 10 there is a terrible > bump/disruption > >that greatly upsets the chassis on most of the big bore motorcycles. > > > >I understand that budget constraints may prevent you from continuing the > new > >pavement through turn 10; however, please make sure that they don't end > the > >pavement right at a transition point where motorcycles will still be > leaned > >over. The resulting bump would prove very dangerous to the two wheeled > >racers. > > > >Thank you for your time > >Collin T. Fagan > >CCS#210 - WERA#305 > > > > > >THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! > > > > > Collin: > > Thanks for the supportive e-mail. Unhappily, the paving, scheduled for > this > past week, was canceled due to problems at the asphalt plant. We'll be > able > to get back on some of it, such as curbing, before next season, but the > major repaving will have to wait until next September. This wait is > required because the asphalt must cure over winter to keep it from > ravelling > in sports car events in the summer's heat. > > Yours is not the only comment suggesting the advisability of paving > through > turn 10. Thus, the plan will be to repave from turn 5 past the side load > exit of turn 10. > > Our commitment is to the amateur and our focus is to making more and > better > events for the motorsports enthusiast who comes to Summit Point for his > pleasure. The tone of your e-mail is supportive which I greatly > appreciate. > > Sincerely, > > William H. Scott > President > BSR, Inc. > PO Box 190 > Summit Point, WV 25446 > 304-725-6512 > 304-728-7124 FAX > E-Mail = office@XXXXXX > URL = www.bsr-inc.com > www.bsrfirearms-training.com > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:20:33 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23061 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08021 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:20:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA06357 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:20:29 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WVVKa02538 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:19:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <896970cb.3640628c@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:19:56 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Free Subscription to Motorcyclist Magazine Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 8:34:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, jckozyn@XXXXXX writes: << http://www.sungift.com/erebunimotorcyclist >> Im sure its legitimate but there is a catch. You have to enter personal information and of course you know what that means! SPAM! JUNK MAIL! But hey its a free Motorcyclist so why not put up with Ed McMahon a little longer? Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:27:32 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23172 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:02:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:25:49 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: M/C Clothing question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline But on the right person, a g-string could be considered protective = clothing. :-D Scooter >>> "Gil M. Nissley" 11/01/98 08:13PM >>> On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, SCOTT Rush wrote: > Has anyone ever bought a leather shirt? I found a website that sells = all kinds of leather goods, including pants and jackets. They had a nice = zip-up leather shirt for $129 that they said is good for when you want to = ride but don't want to wear, and lug around, your heavy jacket. Any comments? > The site is www.leathercat.com and the shirt is listed under Shirts - = Leather. It's near the bottom. They have some nice pants too. JMHO,but I think I'd rather buy my protective gear from a place that=20 sells to racers;not one that makes leather roses and g-strings. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> =20 '98 FXDS-Conv =20 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:42:10 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23445 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:03:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:37:15 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: MotorLE@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline That's quite alright. I enjoy seeing those shameless promotions. :-) I = like your site BTW. Too bad everything I might be interested in is on = hold or not my size. :-( Scooter >>> 11/03/98 07:00PM >>> Hello, I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when = three new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak = up. I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at http://www.leatherexcahnge.com=20 thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:42:11 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23446 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:42:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:03:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:32:58 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Rider Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Actually, I think I have seen you. My sister lives in Manassas and when I = went out to her place a couple weeks ago, I was beside a red Seca and the = rider had on a black Shoei. I yelled out the window, yeah I was caging it = (green Subaru), and said nice bike. Later, Scooter >>> 11/03/98 06:27PM >>> Hi all! I live in the Manassas area, so if you see a bright red Seca rider with a black Shoei around there, give a wave. Chris Weaver From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:47:06 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23502 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:47:04 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA11124; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:48:46 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma010643; Wed, 4 Nov 98 09:47:37 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1W009MEJPLCR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:46:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B2.0050D2AA ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:42:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:42:36 -0500 Subject: Re: hi - need help :) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B2.0050D179.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Chris Norloff wrote: > Or use your new VA address and just show them your MSF completion card - I > believe that's all they require after the learner's permit to get your license. I just went through getting my license a couple of months ago, so I'm fresh from the experience. If you take the MSF course (and pass), they'll give you a completion card. Take this card to the VA DMV and they will waive the riding portion of the test. You will still need to take the "written" portion of the test, but that was REALLY easy. The DMV I went to (Fair Oaks Mall) had touch-screen "written" tests, which I thought was a very good idea. Taking this test is pretty quick too. (Did I just say that about the DMV?!) I did the whole license thing on my lunch hour from work. Keep in mind that if you need for some reason to take a riding test, some DMV offices, such as Fair Oaks Mall, do not offer this portion of the testing. Take a comb with you and dress nicely for the picture. ;^) Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:52:22 1998 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23605 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from [470] ([192.168.13.117]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA14137 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:51:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199811041551.KAA14137@bmdo.mcri.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "John Newman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:50:36 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: I want to buy a helmet... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Fellow listers, Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? Cheers, John From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:54:10 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23615 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:54:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA04559; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <364069DA.C217E18C@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:51:06 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Rain X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <001101be0768$f51945e0$01010101@wotan> <363F787B.540E77F4@illuminet.net> <363F7D74.C804F6EA@tidalwave.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > > Leon Begeman wrote: > > > > On plastic faceshields, Pledge furniture polish will do that. > > Does it help resist fogging? Just curious. Now if I could > past that darned "Lemon Fresh" smell... :( I think you can get it without the scent, in any case, you're only supposed to use it on the outside of the face shield. No, it doesn't help with anti-fogging. I use an anti-fog cloth of some kind that I bought a few years ago. It doesn't work very well. The best anti-fog thing I've found it the Fog City Fog shield, but it doesn't help with keeping glasses clear. I don't use Rain-X for making the rain shed off the helmet, it dries out the plastic and exagerates the little cracks in the faceshield. Pledge fills them in and reduces hazing. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:57:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23702 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA08695 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:57:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.us.pw.com (known pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA07330 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:57:41 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA16343; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:59:29 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma016127; Wed, 4 Nov 98 09:58:57 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1W00B8GK87E7@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:57:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B2.0051D850 ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:53:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:54:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County To: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B2.0051D16D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Yeah, I think it must be a Jones thing. Jones Alexandria (VA) is getting it Dec 1 also ... Channel 39. --chris To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Date: 11/04/98 10:39:29 AM GMT Subject: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Woo hoo! After considering the different satellite options in order to get Speedvision it's finally coming to Jones Cable in PG County. December 1st is supposed to be the first day... Kirk ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 09:58:07 1998 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23718 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:58:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA10033; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:57:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv12-46.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.174) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010012; Wed Nov 4 08:56:53 1998 Message-ID: <005001be0803$361013e0$ae5e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "Lucas, Raymond CPO" Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:55:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01BE07D9.4AA3D0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BE07D9.4AA3D0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hope this is early enough to let someone take my place. I am not able = to get Saturday or Sunday off this weekend. Got the word last night, = and with as long a day as it will be, I wont be able to work, make the = class and then get back to work again. Shift work can be a bitch = sometimes. Anyway, Good luck to everyone. Ken ( A bit po'd and = dissapointed). Damm jobs, All this just to pay the bills and save up = for another bike ;).=20 HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BE07D9.4AA3D0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ERC Class: The When and = Where.
I hope this is early enough to let = someone take=20 my place.  I am not able to get Saturday or Sunday off this = weekend. =20 Got the word last night, and with as long a day as it will be, I wont be = able to=20 work, make the class and then get back to work again.  Shift work = can be a=20 bitch sometimes.  Anyway, Good luck to everyone.  Ken ( A bit = po'd and=20 dissapointed).  Damm jobs, All this just to pay the bills and save = up for=20 another bike ;). 
 
HDKnight
1996 XLH 1200
Ride=20 Safe
Inwood, WV 

     

------=_NextPart_000_004D_01BE07D9.4AA3D0A0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:00:03 1998 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA23796 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:59:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA04789; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:00:18 -0500 Message-ID: <36406B34.E8615319@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:56:52 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: hi - need help :) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A0126C2AE@WAS-MSG-01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: > > Greetings All! > > I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. :) Just > finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. Need some advice on a > few topics: > > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due > to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get > a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not > being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is taught > in the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would > rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem > on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with a > plain learners permit, right?) > You will not be able to get a Maryland Class M endorsement without taking the skills test. Maryland doesn't recognize the completion card from the MSF course as sufficient to get out of the skills test, you must have the certificate from a Maryland MSF course to do that (and it's only valid for 6 months). > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? > Everyone was a beginner once. Just keep practicing, before you know it, someone will tell you that you're not allowed to call yourself a beginner anymore. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:06:58 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23964 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08805 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA07588 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:04:27 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:54:25 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: tis the season.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Wellllll. Let's see. My bro-in-laws father owns a Harlye shop and = someone traded in a '94 FZR 600 that he's been trying to sell. It's deep = metallic blue with a purple and yellow stripe. Vance & Hines exhaust. LP = purple windscreen. Spartan tank bag. Gorilla alarm system. AGV matching = helmet. 7000 miles. Asking $3950 or best offer. It's at my sisters house = in Manassas and in GREAT shape. Looks showroom new. I'm pretty sure = he'll let you take it out for a test ride and, since he's had it 4+ months = with only a couple people interested, I'm sure he'll negotiate. Let me = know if you're interested and I'll get you his number. Scooter >>> 11/03/98 11:28PM >>> Hey everyone, maybe you can help me out..... I'm looking to buy a new = bike, (well, new to me anyways....not necessarily showroom new...) and would be = more appreciative if you can let me know of any interesting bikes that you = might happen to hear about. I'm trying to stay under 3 grand, and not really interested in cruisers. The Grandpa-Ceptor I ride now, ('83), is around = 550 lbs. and 60 hp....I'd like a little less of the former and a little more = of the latter. Thanks for any and all possible assistance! Dress warm kids! -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:07:34 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA23982 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:07:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27574; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:55:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:07:51 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0FA@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'John Newman'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:07:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Coleman Powersports in Falls Church probably has the biggest selection of various brands in stock; however, they also have the highest prices around. One of my quasi-sponsors, Fast Lane Cycles in Chantilly (703-818-8890), also carries a variety of helmets, but I've never looked to see how his prices are on helmets though...If you do go out there, please mention that I referred you, so he knows he's getting something out of helping me... The Dirt Shop (somewher in MD around the top of the beltway..help Brian) has been real good to Brian McCoy and from his earlier posts, sound like they have great prices. A good portion of my business (what little time I have left in this area) is going to start going to them... Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: John Newman [SMTP:jnewman@XXXXXX] > Subject: I want to buy a helmet... > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:21:35 1998 Return-Path: tgimer@XXXXXX Received: from cusrva.cua.edu (cusrva.cua.edu [136.242.10.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24205 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from 136.242.148.15 ([136.242.148.15]) by cua.edu (PMDF V5.1-10 #29119) with SMTP id <01J3RTB7LS3G90MYQB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:16 EST Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:34:16 +0000 From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: I want to buy a helmet... To: John Newman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-to: tgimer@XXXXXX Message-id: <364073F7.1D0@smart.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <199811041551.KAA14137@bmdo.mcri.com> John Newman wrote: > > Fellow listers, > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > Cheers, > > John For what it is worth: Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg, MD) has Shoei RF-800 helmets on sale for about $220. Excellent helmet, excellent price. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:21:56 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24215 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09102 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08218 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:21:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28514; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:22:43 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0FC@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'SCOTT Rush'" , Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: tis the season.. Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:22:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Brian McCoy came across a 90 FZR600 for $1300 yesterday.. he can give you the details... also said he saw some 86-87 VFR's for around $2k. The guy I bought my race bike from always has tons of stuff, and other than on F3's, he's usually below market value (he doesn't make a big margin) You can reach him (pager) at (703) 705-3820 best usually after 4 or so..(he has a day job ya know...) His name is Mike Orapello. If ya like something of his and get it, please tell him I sent ya...(want to make sure I get a decent deal on my next bike as well :)) He's a stright forward guy that will treat you right... Collin > >>> 11/03/98 11:28PM >>> > Hey everyone, maybe you can help me out..... I'm looking to buy a new > bike, > (well, new to me anyways....not necessarily showroom new...) and would be > more > appreciative if you can let me know of any interesting bikes that you > might > happen to hear about. > > -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:23:29 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24225 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:23:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09118 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:23:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from p-pms404.navsea.navy.mil (known pms404bdc.navsea.navy.mil [140.195.162.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08271 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from ccMail by p-pms404.navsea.navy.mil (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Workgroup) id 0000D98D; Wed, 4 Nov 98 10:24:25 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:20:56 -0800 Message-ID: <0000D98D.10047@p-pms404.navsea.navy.mil> From: Patton_Jim@XXXXXX (Patton_Jim) Subject: Address Change To: mdblom@XXXXXX, bmwmoa@XXXXXX, slomoe641@XXXXXX, junior@XXXXXX, louis@XXXXXX, benchri@XXXXXX, scramp@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, marinoni@XXXXXX, dewolfe@XXXXXX, mdietrich98@XXXXXX, Cindy1010@XXXXXX, shawn.downing@XXXXXX, lxddle@XXXXXX, peterod@XXXXXX, mdysart@XXXXXX, eje1@XXXXXX, keith_sherry@XXXXXX, SFarrell@XXXXXX, mfitzs1@XXXXXX, jgf1@XXXXXX, GAST@XXXXXX, kgenus@XXXXXX, gibbons@XXXXXX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Effective November 5, 1998, my work e-mail will change to PattonJW@XXXXXX If you have my old address loaded, please change it to this new version. My home e-mail remains PattonJ@XXXXXX Thanks, Jim Patton From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:25:28 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24247 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:25:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21724 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:25:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:25:18 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: I want to buy a helmet... In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0FA@MSCEX> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: > The Dirt Shop (somewher in MD around the top of the beltway..help Brian) has > been real good to Brian McCoy and from his earlier posts, sound like they > have great prices. A good portion of my business (what little time I have > left in this area) is going to start going to them... I can also vouch for the Dirt Shop. They're about a mile south of the beltway on route 1 in College Park. Look for them on the right shortly after a big hotel (there's also a custom auto wheel shop next door). They're just an accessories/service place and they don't sell bikes at all. Even if they weren't so close that I could walk there I'd still go there. Cycle Accessories Discounters in Gaithersburg is very similar and Dave will seriously discount left over inventory (e.g., he had some Shoei helmets with the flip up chin bar for $150). Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:28:37 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24365 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:28:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id JAA13046 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:27:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981104152732.HFBY649@XXXXXX> for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:27:32 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: FW: Do you have an aftermarket exhaust system? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:25:51 -0500 Message-ID: <001401be0807$67bebfa0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Dale Wilson (Warchild) wrote: _________original_________ All- I've been ask to post this serious question to this group, as many of you have installed (or had installed for you) aftermarket exhaust systems. As many states follow the lead of California's rather stringent emissions standards, it might might a difference to you at some point in the future if you take the time now to provide a little feedback now, before legislation decides for you. Tom Austin is a Technical Advisor for the Iron Butt Association, and a member of the Motorcycle Industry Council. Responses to Tom only, please ==> > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Austin Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 10:07 AM > To: > Subject: Do you have an aftermarket exhaust system? > > As some of you know, I have been assisting the Motorcycle Industry Council > (MIC) in its negotiations with the California Air Resources Board (CARB) > regarding the future of motorcycle emissions regulations. The standards > adopted by CARB may end up affecting most bikes sold in other states as > well. A key issue in these negotiations is whether more stringent > standards will be effective if they force use of catalytic converters on > most bikes. The extent to which the catalyst-equipped exhaust systems > will be replaced with aftermarket systems is a matter of debate. CARB's > ability to prevent this practice depends on whether the replacement is > done by dealers or by individual owners. > > To give us a sense of what's happening in this regard, I would like to > hear privately from any list members who have purchased aftermarket > exhausts, regardless of whether the system was used to replace a catalytic > converter. (I'm not interested in hearing from anyone who didn't actually > purchase a new aftermarket exhaust system.) Question 1: Did a dealer who > sells new motorcycles do the installation, yes or no? Question 2: If a > new motorcycle dealer did the installation, would you still have purchased > the system and installed it yourself (or had someone else install it) if > the dealer refused to do the installation for you, yes or no? > > I will not disclose or use the names or e-mail addresses of anyone who > responds. There is no commercial purpose associated with collecting this > information, other than how it might affect CARB's decision on future > motorcycle exhaust emissions standards. I will only use the information > to prepare overall statistics on how the questions were answered, which I > will report back to the list and to MIC. > > Regards, > Tom Austin (austin@XXXXXX) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:29:54 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24475 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:29:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09260 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:29:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA08523 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:29:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.21]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:26:44 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , "Kirk Roy" Cc: Subject: RE: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:32:18 -0500 Message-ID: <000601be0808$4ec75740$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <852566B2.0051D16D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal I'm crossing my fingers for Jones in Chas. Co. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Yeah, I think it must be a Jones thing. > > Jones Alexandria (VA) is getting it Dec 1 also ... Channel 39. > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:47:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA24833 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09637 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (known imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09189 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:01 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WZUBa02302 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:45:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:45:59 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 10:37:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, ghowell@XXXXXX writes: << I'm crossing my fingers for Jones in Chas. Co. >> heheheh.......Media General has had it for awhile now. Channel 45 I believe? Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:56:13 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24941 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:56:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:28:59 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:28:35 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: jnewman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I want to buy a helmet... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Coleman Power Sport or Spingfield Cycle Sport. Cycle Sport usually has = better deals. Scooter >>> "John Newman" 11/04/98 04:50AM >>> Fellow listers, Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this=20 area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? Cheers, John From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 10:59:49 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25078 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09829 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA09643 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:59:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01496; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:48:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:00:43 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA100@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'WantAZX6@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:00:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Yeah, but that is only part time right?? Shared with outdoor life channel and some other bore ass station... I think Jones has had a similar setup, but now they're going full time... > -----Original Message----- > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX [SMTP:WantAZX6@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 10:59 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County > > > heheheh.......Media General has had it for awhile now. Channel 45 I > believe? > > Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:06:18 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25217 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:06:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104160732.19910.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:07:32 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:07:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: "Gil M. Nissley" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a "reflective vest". He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. I ain't too proud to scream for help). The guard told me his regulations said "vest", not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right reflective material it wasn't a "vest". And I was on the base to teach a rider course! ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > I got stopped at the gate at > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, so > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. > > ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) > > My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:16:19 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25336 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:15:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA16602; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:13:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981104161336.HXIC649@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:13:36 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , "John Newman" Cc: Subject: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:11:55 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01be080d$d774b6a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <364073F7.1D0@smart.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > John Newman wrote: > > > > Fellow listers, > > > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > For what it is worth: Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg, MD) > has Shoei RF-800 helmets on sale for about $220. Excellent helmet, > excellent price. > You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! ;) Todd (stirring the doo-doo) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:21:24 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25451 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:21:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104162247.12992.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:22:47 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:22:47 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: hi - need help :) To: "Ram K. Srinivasan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If you took the course in VA, and you're moving to VA, why not just get a VA license and skip the MD license? If you get the MD license you'll just have to get a VA license when you move, why go through two sets of government BS? ---"Ram K. Srinivasan" wrote: > > > Greetings All! > > I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. :) Just > finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. Need some advice on a > few topics: > > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took was in VA (due > to lack of availability this year in MD). Now I'm qualified in VA to go get > a license. How much headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not > being in VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is taught > in the both states. I'm basically trying to expediate things, and would > rather not have to take the skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem > on its own, 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself with a > plain learners permit, right?) > > 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does anyone else here > have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't have a manual? Could some kind > soul, possibly xerox his/hers for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying > charges etc? > > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend gobs of money on > it....but at the same time don't want to compromise safety? Any advice on > much I could spend (so I don't get ripped off) and any particulary good > helmets? (brandnames etc?) > > > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners here? > > Please do a direct reply to me too! > > many thanx & look forward to hanging out with you guys. > > -Ram :) > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > Rám Srinivasan > Microsoft Corp. > W: 202-895-2109 > ramsr@XXXXXX > ---------------------------------------- > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:24:39 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25502 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:24:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:22:10 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:22:00 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:21:14 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sun -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline 3M makes plastic tape, similar in texture to black electrical, in many colors. You could probably even find it the same color as your helmet. I use black, but I also used white to put a stripe on my lid. I buy it at Pleasant's Hardware, but Lowe's or HQ, etc. probably has it too. Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:31:00 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25651 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:30:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10279 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:30:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10581 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:30:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 405 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:30:20 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19981104112901.00deaee0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:30:18 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: local elections Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Post has a nice site with the results from all of the elections: http://elections98.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/vaelect/ results/allva.htm but to read their front page headlines, you would think that the Democrats crushed the GOP in every election. Click on any story on the front page and it is obvious that they play up the dem wins and GOP losses, even though the GOP came out very strong! No - this isnt MC related, but that doesnt matter. MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) Putting it away for winter.... From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:34:02 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25681 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104163532.3678.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:35:32 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:35:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: hi - need help :) To: Marvin Heilesen , "Ram K. Srinivasan" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Depending on the year the GS400, 450 and 500 are a lot closer than you would think. Suzuki nailed the engine design the first time out and saw no reason to change what was damn near perfect for its intended purpose. The body styling changed from time to time but the frame, electrical system, brakes, and engine stayed pretty much the same. I have a GS400/450 book (it was printed before the 500 I think) that you can borrow, make copies of whatever you want, and return. There's not a lot that needs maintenance on that engine, it will last a lot longer than most. Ray ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > Ram K. Srinivasan wrote: > > > Greetings All! > > Hello. > > > I'm a new rider! First time post on this discussion group. > > :) Just finished the MSF beginner course and got certified. > > Need some advice on a few topics: > > > > 1) I live in MD (but moving to VA soon). The course I took > > was in VA (due to lack of availability this year in MD). > > Now I'm qualified in VA to go get a license. How much > > headache will the MD MVA give me for the course not being in > > VA? The instructors said it was 99% the same stuff that is > > taught in the both states. I'm basically trying to > > expediate things, and would rather not have to take the > > skills test on my GS500E. (which is a problem on its own, > > 'cause you can't ride the bike up to the MVA by yourself > > with a plain learners permit, right?) > > Here I cannot help you. I have an Idaho DL and have no ideas abou the > requirements here. > > > 2) Which brings me to another topic: My GS500E. Does > > anyone else here have one? The guy I bought it from, didn't > > have a manual? Could some kind soul, possibly xerox his/hers > > for me? :) I'd be happy to pay for copying charges etc? > > I have a GS400, but not only am I sure that they are not even close to > the same, but I don't have the book for it either. But, I might be able > to help. LilBkrBabe has a URL that she gave me (and I lost) that has > all sorts of motorcycle mailing list, including this one. But, there > was one for Suzuki's that the guy had a web page with all sorts of > information. I didn't save the info, either. HEY LEE, CAN YOU HELP ME > HERE!!!! > > > 3) Need to buy a helmet....and would prefer not to spend > > gobs of money on it....but at the same time don't want to > > compromise safety? Any advice on much I could spend (so I > > don't get ripped off) and any particulary good helmets? > > (brandnames etc?) > > I better not get started here on my views on helmets except that any > helmet will just about guarantee a neck injury... > > > Also, do you guys meet to ride anytime? Any other beginners > > here? > > I am new on the list, but from what I have seen, the people do get > together. I know two of us (so far) are getting together on Veterans > Day to ride over to DE. As for being a beginner, we all were at one > time or another. Now, I think my ass has become the same shape as my > bike's seat.... > > > Please do a direct reply to me too! > > Done > > > Rám Srinivasan > > Microsoft Corp. > > Microsoft, eh? I'm sorry.... > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:34:22 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25691 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10311 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (known imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10772 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:15 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WAFYa10656 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:41 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Anyone riding? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Just curious. Are there any plans for a group ride this weekend? Or are the temps to low? ;p Robert "I don't mind riding numb" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:34:34 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25701 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10314 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (known imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10780 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:29 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WMZWa18748 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8c107cc8.364081ec@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:33:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 11:22:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: << You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> LOL Todd! Good one. He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:35:20 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25779 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Ray'" , "Gil M. Nissley" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:34:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I've discovered this depends on the guard at the gate. Back in 1991, I had been riding on Norfolk Naval Base in a riding suit with plenty of sewn-in reflective material. MSF Course instructor said my suit technically met regulations and I should be fine. After about six months of traversing the main gate, one guard whom I did not recognize stopped me and told me my suit didn't meet regulations because it was not orange nor was it a vest. No amount of explanation mattered. So I went out and bought an orange vest just to ride through the gate and while on base (didn't know if that guard could be patrolling as a cager). Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:08 AM To: Gil M. Nissley Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a "reflective vest". He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. I ain't too proud to scream for help). The guard told me his regulations said "vest", not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right reflective material it wasn't a "vest". And I was on the base to teach a rider course! ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > I got stopped at the gate at > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, so > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. > > ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) > > My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:35:44 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25791 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Todd Peer'" , tgimer@XXXXXX, John Newman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Where's my block delete button? Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Todd Peer [mailto:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:12 AM To: tgimer@XXXXXX; John Newman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... > John Newman wrote: > > > > Fellow listers, > > > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > > > Cheers, > > > > John > > For what it is worth: Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg, MD) > has Shoei RF-800 helmets on sale for about $220. Excellent helmet, > excellent price. > You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! ;) Todd (stirring the doo-doo) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:38:35 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25809 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10397 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10906 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:28 -0500 (EST) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B2.005AE76A ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:32:54 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B2.005A7622.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:32:47 -0500 Subject: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline >>There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! ;)<< That's "Head Bobbin Weenie boys" Todd. Get it right if you want to keep Squeakers spirit alive. ;-) Steve "helping Todd stir the doo doo" Beck From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:38:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA25820 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10402 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (known send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10922 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:38:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104163858.13913.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:38:58 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:38:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Hardbags, they're HERE! To: dawn.jon@XXXXXX, Todd Peer , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---dawn.jon@XXXXXX wrote: > > > >Very cool! I never had saddlebags on my Shadow, but I've had 'em on my > >NiteHawk. > >Todd > > > What the heck is a "NiteHawk"???? 8^P It's a Nighthawk with a sixth-grade education, like Jethro. > > Jon > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:43:17 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25962 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:43:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104164444.22903.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:44:44 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:44:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion To: MotorLE@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My server won't open this site. Got any short and wide Aerostitch type suits? Ray ---MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when three > new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak up. > > I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay > cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at > http://www.leatherexcahnge.com > > thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. > > Colleen > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:44:53 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA25973 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:44:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104164619.10572.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 08:46:19 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:46:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion To: MotorLE@XXXXXX, DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Forgot to ask, I've got a brand new USN leather flight jacket, size 44 or 46, that I want to trade for a brand new USAF leathter flight jacket, same size. Any ideas? ---MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when three > new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak up. > > I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay > cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at > http://www.leatherexcahnge.com > > thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. > > Colleen > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:47:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26024 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:46:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10609 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11329 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04817; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:35:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:47:56 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA103@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'WantAZX6@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:47:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Uhhh, actually, I'm pretty sure that Todd has one of those, don't ya Todd? > -----Original Message----- > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX [SMTP:WantAZX6@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:45 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... > > LOL Todd! Good one. > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > > Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:52:38 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26136 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:52:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05236; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:40:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:53:20 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA104@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Ray'" , MotorLE@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotio n Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:53:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain that's cause she has dislexic fingers just like me :) should be http://www.leatherexchange.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:52 AM > To: MotorLE@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self > promotion > > > My server won't open this site. Got any short and wide Aerostitch > type suits? > Ray > > > > ---MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: > > > http://www.leatherexcahnge.com > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 11:54:39 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26149 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:54:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA10696 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (known relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA11586 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:54:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zb6CT-00056J-00; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:54:29 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:52:01 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADD95@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'NJitzul@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:52:09 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Temps too low!!?? No WAY!! Now, if Tom could just get over his pneumonia... ; ) It is funny to see how motorcycle parking has become much more available this week... - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [SMTP:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:34 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Anyone riding? > > Just curious. Are there any plans for a group ride this weekend? Or > are the > temps to low? ;p > > Robert "I don't mind riding numb" VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:03:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26375 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:03:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA10936 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:03:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (known send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11989 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:03:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104170505.11313.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:05:05 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:05:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: test To: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Steve_Beck@XXXXXX wrote: > > test message > > I give it a C- > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:07:23 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26476 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11056 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:07:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12178 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA04602; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:06:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981104170557.IRMD649@XXXXXX>; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:05:57 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: , Subject: RE: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:04:15 -0500 Message-ID: <002101be0815$26f6da80$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <8c107cc8.364081ec@aol.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Hey now, Wait a minute! I have one of those! > > << You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! > Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> > > LOL Todd! Good one. > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > > Jack > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:25:41 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA26829 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:25:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:25:19 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:25:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:24:26 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX, sled@XXXXXX Subject: Racing was RE: Big Plans...some moto -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Collin wrote: Brian/Joe/Jay, your turn to chime in...tell us how boring and uneventful your first race weekend was :) Collin Even though I didn't get to do any "real" racing since my bike crapped out at the end of school, my first impression regarding that weekend is . . . HOT DAMN! Having been on the oldest, smallest-engined and smokiest (two-strokiest) bike in the new racer's school, there was no bigger thrill in my 25-years on two-wheels than catching and passing two guys on faster bikes in turns five through eight. I wasn't dragging a knee (heeding the advice about not changing your riding style) but I was braking much later than a lot of the others and dragging pegs and boots through the corners. It's an unbelievable feeling to really start "getting it" and smoking through the section of tight turns in the back, then carrying that speed up the hill onto the back straight. Second impression on the track: "Ooh, this is gonna be an expensive habit . . ." You can look for me at Summit next season. I'll be the one in the old school (all-black) leathers, riding some vintage heap ('79 RD, old Ducati 860GT if she lets me), grinning like an idiot. In closing, DO IT. Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:28:17 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26913 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA11465 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:28:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA12992 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:28:10 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6VSa002539; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:03 EST To: tl1000s@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TLR sites Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Anyone know of any TLR sites that has a classifieds section where users can sell and buy stuff from eachother? A guy Iwork with has bought numerous amounts of stuff for his car this way, and Im trying to do the same with my bike. Ive already been on Chris's TLR page, and it just doesnt have what Im looking for. Any input is appreciated. Sean... 98 TLR From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:35:00 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27013 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:35:02 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 04 Nov 1998 12:34:53 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 04 Nov 1998 12:34:53 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 0002D3640903D018-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 0002D3640903D018 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <0002D3640903D018*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 04 Nov 1998 12:34:53 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: Ray , "MotorLE@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion Message-Id: <0002D3640903D018*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Try http://www.leatherexchange.com there was a typo in the URL -----Original Message----- From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 12:03 PM To: MotorLE@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion My server won't open this site. Got any short and wide Aerostitch type suits? Ray ---MotorLE@XXXXXX wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm sure all the long terms listers are thinking "not again", but when three > new people in an hour send notes about getting bike gear, I have to speak up. > > I have used motorcycle gear, all cheaper than new, some of it waaaaaaay > cheaper than new. Anyone who cares can check out my biz at > http://www.leatherexcahnge.com > > thanks, and back to semi-lurk mode. > > Colleen > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 12:46:14 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA27238 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:46:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A2DFE30288; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:46:07 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981104124206.00fcc3e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 12:42:42 -0500 To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion In-Reply-To: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA104@MSCEX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:53 AM 11/4/98 , Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: >that's cause she has dislexic fingers just like me :) should be >http://www.leatherexchange.com Dyslexics of the World Untie! From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:04:00 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA27563 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:03:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:02:40 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:02:39 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:01:46 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? Yeah, donate that battery to The Museum of the Improbable and buy a new one! Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:15:10 1998 Return-Path: hdknight@XXXXXX Received: from bc.mountain.net (root@XXXXXX [198.77.1.35]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27769 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:15:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer (AM4-33.Martinsburg-WV.Mountain.Net [198.77.15.182]) by bc.mountain.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA03303 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:14:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001101be081e$d89c0fe0$b60f4dc6@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Valley Cycles in Winchester has moved to new digs...... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:13:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE07F4.EAE5DCA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE07F4.EAE5DCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyway, I took advantage of the absolutely beautiful although chilly day = to ride around Winchester and up to Berkeley Springs. Anita knows my = favorite route, I like to stop at all the Bike dealers as I ride around. = Anyway for anyone who has ever been there Valley Cycles, which sells = Kawasaki,Ducati, Suzuki and Yamaha has moved from downtown Winchester = where they were located for years to a real nice modern dealership = located three miles East of Intersate 81 on Rt. 50. Heading from the DC = area( thats westbound for the geographically challenged) it is located = on a Hill on your left side ( or the South side of the highway). They = were just moving in, and the place is not set up yet, but it looks like = it will be real nice. A super improvement from the old place. One = should actually be able to walk around the bikes now. If you had ever = ben at the old place, you will know what I mean. Anyway it was nice = riding today, although its still not 40 yet out here. But it was low = 20's last night so its an improvement. Did not see anyone else today = though. On another not Winch. Indian does not have their Triumphs in = yet, although they are expecting around 10 any day now. Not sure where = they are going to put them either? =20 HDKnight Ken 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE07F4.EAE5DCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyway, I took advantage of the = absolutely=20 beautiful although chilly day to ride around Winchester and up to = Berkeley=20 Springs.  Anita knows my favorite route, I like to stop at all the = Bike=20 dealers as I ride around.  Anyway for anyone who has ever been = there Valley=20 Cycles, which sells Kawasaki,Ducati, Suzuki and Yamaha has moved from = downtown=20 Winchester where they were located for years to a real nice modern = dealership=20 located three miles East of Intersate 81 on Rt. 50.  Heading from = the DC=20 area( thats westbound for the geographically challenged) it is located = on a Hill=20 on your left side  ( or the South side of the highway).  They = were=20 just moving in, and the place is not set up yet, but it looks like it = will be=20 real nice.  A super improvement from the old place.  One = should=20 actually be able to walk around the bikes now.  If you had ever ben = at the=20 old place, you will know what I mean.  Anyway it was nice riding = today,=20 although its still not 40 yet out here.  But it was low 20's last = night so=20 its an improvement.  Did not see anyone else today though.  On = another=20 not Winch. Indian does not have their Triumphs in yet, although they are = expecting around 10 any day now.  Not sure where they are going to = put them=20 either?
 
HDKnight
Ken
1996 XLH 1200
Ride = Safe
Inwood,=20 WV
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BE07F4.EAE5DCA0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:21:11 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27885 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12192 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA15535 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS8UWCB5; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST To: cfagan@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: ERC Class: The When and Where. Message-ID: <19981102.124515.8111.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA0E5@mscex> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-12 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST Probably not. People won't give up. Give then a meter and they'll take a kilometer... ;-) JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:30:54 -0500 "Fagan, Collin LTJG" writes: >Man, I'm never gonna live that one down am I :) Regarding: >> (that's 40 km to you COllin) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:21:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27892 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12195 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA15538 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS8UWCDH; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST To: gixer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto Message-ID: <19981102.124515.8111.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <363EAFBD.F7C72115@XXXXXX> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3,5-10 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 02:24:45 -0500 "Collin T. Fagan writes: >On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to come up >north and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two that >had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like crazy.... >Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! =8^O Yoweee!!!!!! JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:21:22 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27898 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:21:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS8UWB99; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST To: robmoody@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Law Message-ID: <19981102.124514.8111.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <002301be0729$b07b8090$01010101@wotan> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,3-5,11-12,14-16 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:20:49 EST On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:58:44 -0500 "Robert L Moody" writes: >I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane splitting" wherein a >motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los Angeles and they >gave tips on how to do it "safely" . Last I heard, lane splitting was only legal in California and D.C., which struck me as odd, since those are the two places I'd be least inclined to try it. I see its advantages in city traffic, especially the part about creeping up to the front of the line at a stoplight for a clean getaway, but D.C. driving is so erratic, I'm convinced I'd be annihilated trying to lane split. I'd probably get hit by a cab, dragged for three blocks, and then charged $8.50 for transportation through two zones... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:24:15 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27936 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:24:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA12926; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:24:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811041824.NAA12926@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Ray" , "Gil M. Nissley" Cc: Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:23:30 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE07F6.50B15220" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE07F6.50B15220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It is funny how sporadically they enforce this requirement. I know that this requirement is under revision, and I added my comments concerning it. Here, all I had to do was show that I had a vest (during an inspection of my bike), and after that, I have never needed it. I would rather wear my leathers and be protected than to worry about a stupid orange vest. I do have reflective (Scotch brite) tape on my helmet (yes, I do have a helmet, and it is even DOT approved). It shows up better in the dark than do their orange vests. (IMHO) ---------- > Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was > we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a > "reflective vest". He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in > reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very > bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall > overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. I ain't too proud > to scream for help). The guard told me his regulations said "vest", > not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right > reflective material it wasn't a "vest". And I was on the base to > teach a rider course! > > > > > ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > > I got stopped at the gate at > > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, > so > > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. > > > > ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) > > > > My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base > > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and > > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They > > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P > > > > > > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_01BE07F6.50B15220 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It is funny how sporadically they = enforce this requirement.  I know that this requirement is under = revision, and I added my comments concerning it.

Here, all I had = to do was show that I had a vest (during an inspection of my bike), and = after that, I have never needed it.  I would rather wear my = leathers and be protected than to worry about a stupid orange vest. =  I do have reflective (Scotch brite) tape on my helmet (yes, I do = have a helmet, and it is even DOT approved).  It shows up better in = the dark than do their orange vests. (IMHO)

----------
> Something that happened to a friend = in Californy and me in Florida was
> we were stopped by USAF gate = guards because we were not wearing a
> "reflective = vest".  He was wearing a leather riding suit with built = in
> reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a = very
> bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material = (If I fall
> overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. =  I ain't too proud
> to scream for help).  The guard = told me his regulations said "vest",
> not coat, and = even though it was the right color and had the right
> reflective = material it wasn't a "vest".  And I was on the base = to
> teach a rider course!
>
>
>
> =
> ---"Gil M. Nissley" <gnissley@XXXXXX> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Nov = 1998, Ray wrote:
> > > I got stopped at the gate at
> = > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card.  I = didn't have a
> > > completion card and the guard would not = accept my instructor card,
> so
> > > I went back to = the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that
> > > = day, signed it, and went back to the same guard.
> >
> = >   ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! = ;-)
> >
> >   My fav is the one my Dad told = me.He works at Pax River Navy base
> > and they have Muh-rines = on the gates.They actually stopped him and
> > *measured* the = amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They
> > made = him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. =  :-P
> >
> >
> >
> > =
> > The official BuellBoy Genes model.
> >
> = > gnissley@XXXXXX   GATB#1121   HSB#38D =   <*>    
> >
> > '98 = FXDS-Conv
> >  
> >
> >
> > =
> >
> >
> >
>
> = _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU = YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

------=_NextPart_000_01BE07F6.50B15220-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:24:27 1998 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA27956 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:24:26 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3CSVa03785 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:23:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <20b9e238.36409ba1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:23:29 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 79 >that's cause she has dislexic fingers just like me :) should be >http://www.leatherexchange.com oops. I'm too lazy to use spell check too! Colleen From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:38:57 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28267 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:38:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104183910.18412.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:39:10 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:39:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: Marvin Heilesen , "Gil M. Nissley" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Back in 1984 I was investigating a m/c accident in South Carolina for my employer. At that time the regulation was simple and made sense (so of course they had to change it), wear a helmet on base and comply with local laws off base. I found the helmets floating in the river, basically the road curved and he went strait. The Captain of the ship told me that he wanted the report to say the accident and his injuries were caused or at least contributed by the operator not wearing a helmet. I told him that the helmet had nothing to do with it, the accident was probably 1% slippery road, 1% dark because streetlights were out, and 98% because he was too drunk to ride - over twice the limit a couple hours later at the hospital, and that wearing a helmet very rarely prevents hand injuries. He ended up losing his hand plus had to pay half his medical bills and a general discharge with no disability. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > It is funny how sporadically they enforce this requirement. I know that > this requirement is under revision, and I added my comments concerning it. > > Here, all I had to do was show that I had a vest (during an inspection of > my bike), and after that, I have never needed it. I would rather wear my > leathers and be protected than to worry about a stupid orange vest. I do > have reflective (Scotch brite) tape on my helmet (yes, I do have a helmet, > and it is even DOT approved). It shows up better in the dark than do their > orange vests. (IMHO) > > ---------- > > Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was > > we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a > > "reflective vest". He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in > > reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very > > bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall > > overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me. I ain't too proud > > to scream for help). The guard told me his regulations said "vest", > > not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right > > reflective material it wasn't a "vest". And I was on the base to > > teach a rider course! > > > > > > > > > > ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > > > I got stopped at the gate at > > > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card. I didn't have a > > > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card, > > so > > > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that > > > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard. > > > > > > ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-) > > > > > > My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base > > > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and > > > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They > > > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum. :-P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > > > > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > > > > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > DO YOU YAHOO!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

It is funny how sporadically they enforce this requirement.  I know that this requirement is under revision, and I added my comments concerning it.

Here, all I had to do was show that I had a vest (during an inspection of my bike), and after that, I have never needed it.  I would rather wear my leathers and be protected than to worry about a stupid orange vest.  I do have reflective (Scotch brite) tape on my helmet (yes, I do have a helmet, and it is even DOT approved).  It shows up better in the dark than do their orange vests. (IMHO)

----------
> Something that happened to a friend in Californy and me in Florida was
> we were stopped by USAF gate guards because we were not wearing a
> "reflective vest".  He was wearing a leather riding suit with built in
> reflective material, more than required, and I was wearing a very
> bright orange float-coat with a lot of reflective material (If I fall
> overboard from a boat, I want everyone to see me.  I ain't too proud
> to scream for help).  The guard told me his regulations said "vest",
> not coat, and even though it was the right color and had the right
> reflective material it wasn't a "vest".  And I was on the base to
> teach a rider course!
>
>
>
>
> ---"Gil M. Nissley" <gnissley@XXXXXX> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Ray wrote:
> > > I got stopped at the gate at
> > > Hunter Army Air Field once to check my MSF card.  I didn't have a
> > > completion card and the guard would not accept my instructor card,
> so
> > > I went back to the shipyard, typed out a card to me, dated it that
> > > day, signed it, and went back to the same guard.
> >
> >   ...with a big shite-eating grin on your face! ;-)
> >
> >   My fav is the one my Dad told me.He works at Pax River Navy base
> > and they have Muh-rines on the gates.They actually stopped him and
> > *measured* the amount of reflective material on his disco vest.They
> > made him walk because he was 2 square" short of the minimum.  :-P
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The official BuellBoy Genes model.
> >
> > gnissley@XXXXXX   GATB#1121   HSB#38D   <*>    
> >
> > '98 FXDS-Conv
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

_________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:40:21 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28280 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:40:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id KAA14537 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:40:07 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:40:07 -0800 Message-Id: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532B7@sw730x023.visa.com> From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:40:12 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was stopped at the gate of Henderson Hall as I didn't have the = requisite "Roadguard Vest" as required by the station commander. Otherwise, I was = clad in armored ballistic nylon, jeans, boots and gloves - not racing = quality, but pretty good. =A0 I parked my bike close to the gurad shack and was walking to the = Exchange when a young (I assume) marine rode through the gate wearing the = required vest, tennies, shorts, tank top and helmet. =A0 The guard agreed that the situation was asinine, but orders are orders. =A0 I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his actions in promoting safety, but pointing out the shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never received a response (didn't expect one, either). =A0 Michael J. =A0 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:46:05 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28424 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:46:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104184728.18747.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:47:28 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:47:28 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto -Reply To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How can signalling to turn cause it to die? You're supposed to use your left hand to signal, not your right. Or do like me, use both hands and keep watching the mirrors. Ray (rammed three times in a truck, twice in a car, but never on a bike and I intend to stay that way). ---JOE NAGY wrote: > > > > Some days, I think that the generator on it is giving out, > too. It will run, but then if you signal to turn, it almost > dies. Spooky to ride like that. Any ideas? > > Yeah, donate that battery to The Museum of the Improbable and buy a new > one! > > Joe > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:51:48 1998 Return-Path: hdknight@XXXXXX Received: from bc.mountain.net (root@XXXXXX [198.77.1.35]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28542 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:51:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer (AM4-33.Martinsburg-WV.Mountain.Net [198.77.15.182]) by bc.mountain.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA04575 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:51:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <007301be0823$fcc06f60$b60f4dc6@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: RE Military bases Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:50:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01BE07FA.129314C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BE07FA.129314C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When did all this BS with getting on base with a bike start, I dont = remember ever having trouble back 17, 18 years ago? All this talk = reminds me of why I got the hell out ;) HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BE07FA.129314C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When did all this BS with getting on base with a = bike start, I=20 dont remember ever having trouble back 17, 18 years ago? All this talk = reminds=20 me of why I got the hell out ;)
HDKnight
1996 XLH 1200
Ride=20 Safe
Inwood, WV
------=_NextPart_000_006E_01BE07FA.129314C0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:52:23 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28557 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:52:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 294; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:51:05 -0500 Message-ID: <3640A25C.8DD7D79B@tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:52:12 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: tgimer@XXXXXX, John Newman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... References: <001a01be080d$d774b6a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Todd Peer wrote: > You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! > > ;) > > Todd (stirring the doo-doo) Now this is the best bait that I've seen (smelled?) in a LONGGGGG time on this list. ;) Todd threw in a little bit of Squeakers, a little bit of Snake, and a little bit of John-Pierre, stirred gently, and set on simmer. This is gonna be a fun thread! :) Horkster (I think my neck breaker is broken, my neck feels fine) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:53:23 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28567 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12765 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (known send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA17105 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104185444.2905.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:54:44 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:54:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto To: Bikes R Us , gixer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I attempted to ride on ice once. Being from Florida, I had never heard of "black ice", and even if I have I wouldn't have believed it could happen in Mississippi. The short version of the story is I slid about a half mile (that's .8 km to you Collin), the bike slid a half mile plus one foot. I was bundled up so much crashing and sliding didn't hurt. But when that bike went that extra .308 meter, and when I grabbed the exhaust pipe on that two-stroke, now THAT hurt! The long version, with sound effects and demonstration, is very entertaining but it takes about five beers for me to be able to tell it right. ---Bikes R Us wrote: > > On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 02:24:45 -0500 "Collin T. Fagan writes: > >On the race list, some folks were recruiting for racers to come up > >north and ice race... I distinctly recall them mentioning a team or two > that > >had CBR's and GSXR750s out there with stud tires and all racing like > crazy.... > >Talk about big stainless steel cahoneys!!! > > =8^O Yoweee!!!!!! > > JohnDavid@Bikes R Us > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:54:36 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28577 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:54:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104185609.20220.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:56:09 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:56:09 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Law To: Bikes R Us , robmoody@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had training material that said it was only legal in Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. Ray ---Bikes R Us wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 07:58:44 -0500 "Robert L Moody" writes: > >I just viewed a safety video and they talked about "lane splitting" > wherein a >motorcycle rides between two cars. This is legal in Los > Angeles and they > >gave tips on how to do it "safely" . > > Last I heard, lane splitting was only legal in California and D.C., which > struck me as odd, since those are the two places I'd be least inclined to > try it. I see its advantages in city traffic, especially the part about > creeping up to the front of the line at a stoplight for a clean getaway, > but D.C. driving is so erratic, I'm convinced I'd be annihilated trying > to lane split. > > I'd probably get hit by a cab, dragged for three blocks, and then charged > $8.50 for transportation through two zones... > > JohnDavid@Bikes R Us > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:59:45 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28696 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:59:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA12811 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:59:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA17357 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:59:21 -0500 (EST) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B2.0067CF36 ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B2.006725D4.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:53:50 -0500 Subject: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline >>I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his actions in promoting safety, but pointing out the shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never received a response<< Of course not. That would be an admittance of his ignorance to a subordinate. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 13:59:47 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA28699 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:59:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981104190057.9994.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:00:57 PST Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:00:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: "Jordan, Michael" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I now carry a vest in the bottom of my tank bag (unfortunately it doesn't help when I don't have my tankbag), and now when I get told to put on a vest I stop right there, get off the bike, root through the bag like I can't find it, take off the helmet (helmet too big or hole too small), put on the vest, put on the helmet, restart the bike, check mirrors, and go. (Before I get screaming complaints I only do this in light to no traffic and only to guards who are jerks; which is almost all of them). On Navy bases in uniform I find growling menacingly at the guard almost always works. ---"Jordan, Michael" wrote: > > I was stopped at the gate of Henderson Hall as I didn't have the requisite > "Roadguard Vest" as required by the station commander. Otherwise, I was clad > in armored ballistic nylon, jeans, boots and gloves - not racing quality, > but pretty good. >   > I parked my bike close to the gurad shack and was walking to the Exchange > when a young (I assume) marine rode through the gate wearing the required > vest, tennies, shorts, tank top and helmet. >   > The guard agreed that the situation was asinine, but orders are orders. >   > I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his actions in promoting > safety, but pointing out the shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never > received a response (didn't expect one, either). >   > Michael J. >   > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:04:02 1998 Return-Path: MINEREG@XXXXXX Received: from PASHA.COM (pasha.com [207.32.107.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28776 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from PASHA-Message_Server by PASHA.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:00:01 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:59:48 -0500 From: Sean Sullivan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Law Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline RE: Law Land splitting is not legal in D.C. City police have a reputation for letting violations go, and you can certainly get away with it for a while, but a D.C. motorcycle policeman told me that splitting lanes would earn a reckless driving ticket with the accompanying hefty fines and points. I guess that leaves L.A. Sean Sullivan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Last I heard, lane splitting was only legal in California and D.C., which struck me as odd, since those are the two places I'd be least inclined to try it. I see its advantages in city traffic, especially the part about creeping up to the front of the line at a stoplight for a clean getaway, but D.C. driving is so erratic, I'm convinced I'd be annihilated trying to lane split. I'd probably get hit by a cab, dragged for three blocks, and then charged $8.50 for transportation through two zones... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:07:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA28857 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:07:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA12951 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:07:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA17660 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:07:42 -0500 (EST) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 852566B2.006891DD ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:02:10 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B2.00683F8B.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:02:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Law Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had training material that said it was only legal in Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. Ray I'm pretty sure that it is illegal in DC. But the cops in DC let you get away with a lot of stuff that surounding areas will not. So you can usually do it without getting stopped. Steve Beck From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:10:44 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28887 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A6A8A5028E; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:10:32 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981104141201.00fe3f10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:14:12 -0500 To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Law Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19981102.124514.8111.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <002301be0729$b07b8090$01010101@wotan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:20 PM 11/4/98 , Bikes R Us wrote: >Last I heard, lane splitting was only legal in California and D.C., which >struck me as odd, since those are the two places I'd be least inclined to >try it. I see its advantages in city traffic, especially the part about >creeping up to the front of the line at a stoplight for a clean getaway, >but D.C. driving is so erratic, I'm convinced I'd be annihilated trying >to lane split. I'm not sure it's legal in DC, but then there is no law in DC. Most everyone on the roads in DC does a lot more give & take than you'll find in the surrounding areas. The streets are narrow enough that I limit my splitting to when traffic is backed up, and then I just move to the front of the line at lights, and use the "motorcycle lane" beside the parked cars in the right lane. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:13:38 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA28991 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:13:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id LAA20793 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:13:24 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:13:24 -0800 Message-Id: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532C2@sw730x023.visa.com> From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles Subject: RE: RE Military bases Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:13:30 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >When did all this BS with getting on base with a bike start, I dont remember ever having trouble back 17, 18 years ago? All this talk = >reminds me of why I got the hell out ;) =A0 Lessee now... =A0 Keesler AFB, MS (back in '64) would not allow anything larger than 50cc = on base Tan Son Nhut AB, RVN didn't care - more important things happening to = keep the brass busy (1966-7) Tinker AFB, OK actively discouraged (but didn't prohibit) bikes in the = late 60s Aviano AB, Italy didn't even have provisions for licensing a motorcycle = as late as '77 (my desmos wore Italian registry) =A0 Michael J. =A0 =A0 =A0 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:18:10 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29059 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:18:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:18:08 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 04 Nov 1998 14:17:32 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 04 Nov 1998 14:17:32 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 0042B3640A84C010-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 0042B3640A84C010 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <0042B3640A84C010*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 04 Nov 1998 14:17:32 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Message-Id: <0042B3640A84C010*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> When I worked for the Navy up in NJ the rules on base were: Helmet Reflective vest Long pants Long sleeve shirt Boots Gloves MSF Card If you were missing any you had to park the bike and walk. -----Original Message----- From: Jordan, Michael [SMTP:mike@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 1:56 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military I was stopped at the gate of Henderson Hall as I didn't have the requisite "Roadguard Vest" as required by the station commander. Otherwise, I was clad in armored ballistic nylon, jeans, boots and gloves - not racing quality, but pretty good. I parked my bike close to the gurad shack and was walking to the Exchange when a young (I assume) marine rode through the gate wearing the required vest, tennies, shorts, tank top and helmet. The guard agreed that the situation was asinine, but orders are orders. I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his actions in promoting safety, but pointing out the shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never received a response (didn't expect one, either). Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 14:53:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29690 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:53:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14120 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA19938 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:52:44 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:52:39 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:51:41 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I agree with Harry but with one exception. After years of being able to wear nothing but Arai helmets on my bean-shaped (viewed from above) noggin, I tried a Shoei RF700 and it fits perfectly. Apparently made for "Arai heads", because no other Shoei made in the last 20 years has fit. Don't know if the new RF800 fits the same as the 700. Joe Shoei RF700 Arai Signet, Supervent, etc. >>> "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." - 11/3/98 9:50 PM >>> At 09:11 PM 11/3/98 -0500, wes wrote: >My advice would be to go with a Shoei. The only caveat to that is that people seem to have either a Shoei head or an Arai head. Shoei fits better on rounder heads (viewed from above), while Arai does better on a more oval head. All my previous helmets were from Shoei. They fit very snugly against my forehead, though relativley loose around my cheeks. I used to get a red dot in the middle of my forehead after a hour or so. I tried on an Arai and it fit so much better. I'll never wear anything else (unless my head shape changes!). Others I know have had the reverse experience. Conclusion: try a bunch of brands to find one that fits well all over. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm "The more you live, the less you die." From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:07:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00155 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14581 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21096 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA19098; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:55:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:36 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA109@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'JOE NAGY'" , hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Need help/ Helmets -Reply Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:07:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hmmm.... I'm definitely an Arai head as well, but for racing I acquired an RF-700. For me it fits like typical Shoei...if I wear it too long, my forhead gets a super dent in it... Maybe they aren't quite as round as older Shoeis but not quite as football shaped as my noodle.. > -----Original Message----- > From: JOE NAGY [SMTP:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 3:05 PM > To: hgg@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets -Reply > > I tried a Shoei RF700 and it fits perfectly. Apparently made > for "Arai heads", because no other Shoei made in the last 20 years has > fit. Don't know if the new RF800 fits the same as the 700. > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:14:28 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00406 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14812 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:14:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21761 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:14:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 122; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:13:49 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19981104151239.00d8e400@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:13:46 -0500 To: JOE NAGY , hgg@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I didnt think my head was very big, but I had to get an XL in the Shoei RF800. Arai was comfortable, so was the AGV, but Shoei seemed the best quality for the money. At 03:51 PM 11/4/98 , JOE NAGY wrote: >I agree with Harry but with one exception. After years of being able to >wear nothing but Arai helmets on my bean-shaped (viewed from above) >noggin, I tried a Shoei RF700 and it fits perfectly. Apparently made >for "Arai heads", because no other Shoei made in the last 20 years has >fit. Don't know if the new RF800 fits the same as the 700. > >Joe >Shoei RF700 >Arai Signet, Supervent, etc. > >>>> "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." - 11/3/98 9:50 PM >>> >At 09:11 PM 11/3/98 -0500, wes wrote: >>My advice would be to go with a Shoei. > > The only caveat to that is that people seem to have either a Shoei >head >or an Arai head. Shoei fits better on rounder heads (viewed from >above), >while Arai does better on a more oval head. All my previous helmets >were >from Shoei. They fit very snugly against my forehead, though relativley >loose around my cheeks. I used to get a red dot in the middle of my >forehead after a hour or so. I tried on an Arai and it fit so much >better. > I'll never wear anything else (unless my head shape changes!). Others >I >know have had the reverse experience. > Conclusion: try a bunch of brands to find one that fits well all over. > >Harry >Bethesda, MD >'97 BMW R1100RT >http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm >"The more you live, the less you die." ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) Putting it away for winter.... From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:17:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00483 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14909 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:17:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (known imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21945 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:17:32 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WYKSa04680 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:16:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1943c6d8.3640b62e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:16:46 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 12:06:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: << Hey now, Wait a minute! I have one of those! >> I rest my case. Isnt Todd the sexiest thing you have ever seen? LOL ;) Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:19:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00503 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA14935 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA21988 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA03704; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3640B5F9.B7C42388@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 20:15:53 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <8c107cc8.364081ec@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got one of those on order. The sales guy at Coleman tried to talk me out of buying it. . . . He was concerned about it not having Snell certification. WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > In a message dated 11/4/98 11:22:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, > todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: > > << You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> > > LOL Todd! Good one. > > Jack -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:20:20 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00596 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042020.PAA00596@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:22:58 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:15:15 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Colemans probably has the best selection in the NoVA area.. possibly even the entire Metro area.. As for purchase.. shop arround.. call several of the companies that advertise in the moto-rags.. get prices, then shop localy.. depending on your needs (price over convinience) buy local or buy mail-order.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: John Newman [mailto:jnewman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 4:51 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: I want to buy a helmet... > > > Fellow listers, > > Speaking of which helmets to buy, where is the best place in this > area to buy/ try on a wide selection of helmets? > > Cheers, > > John > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:20:27 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00598 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042020.PAA00598@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:23:54 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: The Dirt Shop Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:45:33 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) The shop I frequent is in College Park, MD. On Rt1 about .5 miles south of the beltway on the right hand side. It's a small accessory shop that's been there forever. The current owner is the origonal owner as well.. he's been in the business for something like 15 years now. Obviously he must be doing something right to keep in business for that long... Anyway, I've found that with my constant patronage, they've come to give me a discount on just about everything. From tire changes ($5~10 depending on the day), to the tires themselves.. But their marked prices are quite reasonable as well. If you go in and know what you can get the product for elsewhere, they will haggle with you to a point (as long as you're pleasent about the whole thing) but remember they're not going to be able to match the big mailorder places on price. I typically allow for 10~15% markup in price just for the convience and to support the locals. After all, when I'm changing my oil on some saturday, and need a new alumunimum crushwasher for the drainplug, I can't exactly call the mailorder place and expect to finish anytime that week.. but that's only my philosphy... everyone's will vary.. I do believe Kirk has had positive experiences with them as well... Everyone working there is great.. some racers, both road and dirt, all motorcyclists and most for dozens of years.. Worth a stop if you're in the area... and, of course.. it never hurts (me) if you happen to mention my name.. :) (Especially to Carol.. she's like a mom or something..) Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:20:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00616 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15024 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (known imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22056 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WDSIa02316 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:19:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:19:54 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Need help/ Helmets -Colemans helmets Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/4/98 3:00:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, NAGYJ@XXXXXX writes: Just came back from a lunch hour jaunt to Colemans FC. They have some decent AGV R3s on sale for 160-170. Nice helmets, made me wish I had an extra 160 to throw down. Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:20:46 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00607 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:20:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042020.PAA00607@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:29:08 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:54:42 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) temps are never to low.. though I think I might opt to stay in bed snuggled up to a warm, cute female.. I suppose it all depends though. Something Saturday would work best were I to ride (hrm.. 2 MDers starting a ride..) You know any good roads up there Robert? I know some ok ones from the beltway to like Urbania.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [mailto:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 11:34 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Anyone riding? > > > Just curious. Are there any plans for a group ride this > weekend? Or are the > temps to low? ;p > > Robert "I don't mind riding numb" VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" > From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:24:40 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00682 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:35 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA14194; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:26:16 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa13736; Wed, 4 Nov 98 15:25:07 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1W0011UZC456@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B2.006FB84A ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:20:16 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:22:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Law To: Ray Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B2.006FBB50.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Ray, I don't mean to split hairs, but since you are looking for accurate info .... It is not legal in California. Rather it is not illegal. The issue is that CA does not have a statute that prevents two vehicles from occupying the same lane. You can be ticketed for splitting in CA if you don't follow the "unwritten rules", such as not above certain speeds, in commuter lanes, etc. Later, chris To: Bikes R Us , robmoody@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ray Date: 11/04/98 06:56:09 PM GMT Subject: Re: Law Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had training material that said it was only legal in Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. Ray ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:25:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00692 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA15081 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from ams.amsinc.com (known ams.amsinc.com [162.70.244.20]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA22384 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:51 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com (ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com [162.70.34.52]) by ams.amsinc.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id PAA29316 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:24:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 852566B2.007447B1 ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:23:44 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B2.006F9251.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:18:46 -0500 Subject: re: Need help/ Helmets -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I agree with everyone here...I've got an RF 700 and it always leaves a huge red spot on my forehead after like an hour or so (rather painful after 3 or 4 hours)...the bad thing about trying on helmets is that you don't have the wind pushing the thing against your forehead (like when you're riding) if you just try one on in a store...maybe go with a friend - try on the helmet, lean forward, and let your friend hold you up by applying force against the front of the helmet, or just lean against a wall... whoa, just joking here :-) BTW, my Enfield arrives this Friday (knock on wood) -Doug douglas_brashear@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 15:50:49 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop01.globecomm.net (pop01.globecomm.net [206.253.129.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01180 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop01.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA20305 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:50:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042050.PAA20305@pop01.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: hi - need help :) (specific to helmets) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:49:59 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE080A.C6FE43C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE080A.C6FE43C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > As for Snake and his neck injuries.. well, come out to Summit Point next > year and cornerwork one day. Watch team DC-Cycles Racing, pick up some > fallen riders and have a conversation about the deep gouges they just put in > their new helmets. Same goes for anyone who thinks helmets are dangerous. > (Yes, I believe in the freedom of choice and therefore hate the laws - bah). Wow, I am getting known on the list!!!! I do like your last statement. I could not have said it any better. All my riding I did in New Hampshire, I saw about half the riders with a helmet. That was their choice. I respect their choice. But the best thing about it was that they were allowed to choose. I waved evenly at topless and helmeted bikers, as we are all the same. As a side note, most of the bikes were "out-of-state". People from MA and VT rode to NH to have the choice of how to ride. As for my neck injuries statement, I am not saying that helmets are dangerous. They have their risks that people should be made aware of. Just as like .1% of people involved in car accidents are injured more severely due to the seat belts, there is a percentage where helmets cause more damage than if one was not wearing one. I have one recommendation for people who choose helmets (other than like my half helmet). I have seen a sticker that notifies responders that if you're involved in an accident, "DO NOT TRY AND REMOVE MY HELMET". The damage occurs when someone aggravates an injury by taking off the helmet. Let the people at the hospital do the removal. Besides, there is no better way to immobilize the c-spine than to duct tape the helmet to the backboard and strap down the individual. Everything else is just the next best thing. Oh yeah, I am an EMT also..... :) Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE080A.C6FE43C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> As for Snake and his neck = injuries.. well, come out to Summit Point next
> year and = cornerwork one day.  Watch team DC-Cycles Racing, pick up = some
> fallen riders and have a conversation about the deep gouges = they just put in
> their new helmets.  Same goes for anyone = who thinks helmets are dangerous.
> (Yes, I believe in the freedom = of choice and therefore hate the laws - bah).

Wow, I am getting known on the list!!!!

I do = like your last statement.  I could not have said it any better. =  All my riding I did in New Hampshire, I saw about half the riders = with a helmet.  That was their choice.  I respect their = choice.  But the best thing about it was that they were allowed to = choose.  I waved evenly at topless and helmeted bikers, as we are = all the same.

As a side note, most of the bikes were = "out-of-state".  People from MA and VT rode to NH to have = the choice of how to ride.

As for my neck injuries statement, I = am not saying that helmets are dangerous.  They have their risks = that people should be made aware of.  Just as like .1% of people = involved in car accidents are injured more severely due to the seat = belts, there is a percentage where helmets cause more damage than if one = was not wearing one.

I have one recommendation for people who = choose helmets (other than like my half helmet).  I have seen a = sticker that notifies responders that if you're involved in an accident, = "DO NOT TRY AND REMOVE MY HELMET".  The damage occurs = when someone aggravates an injury by taking off the helmet.  Let = the people at the hospital do the removal.  Besides, there is no = better way to immobilize the c-spine than to duct tape the helmet to the = backboard and strap down the individual.  Everything else is just = the next best thing.

Oh yeah, I am an EMT also..... =    :)

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE080A.C6FE43C0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:03:15 1998 Return-Path: ewinslow@XXXXXX Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01353 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.his.com (ewinslow@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26601 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:02:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:02:58 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Winslow To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: The Dirt Shop In-Reply-To: <199811042020.PAA00598@meretrix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > Worth a stop if you're in the area... and, of course.. it never hurts (me) > if you happen to mention my name.. :) (Especially to Carol.. she's like a > mom or something..) > > Brian I'll second that. I've bought my last 2 helmets from them (great markdowns on older models) and had them do my rear tire and brake pads. Service was speedy and they noticed some things that I didn't (always nice when you're paying somebody to work on your bike). I'll continue to try to give them my business. Eric From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:06:12 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01433 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:06:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA15806 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (known pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA23993 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id QAA26138 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:06:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811042106.QAA26138@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:04:20 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE080C.C85388A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE080C.C85388A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My bike is parked outside my office right now. It was invigorating riding to work this morning. Then again, I like cold weather. It means that ski season is right around the corner. Now if I could only get a ski rack for my bike (and a guarantee that there won't be any ice on the hiways......). I am up for a ride Saturday. My wife has Saturdays off so she can ride with me!! ---------- > Temps too low!!?? No WAY!! > Now, if Tom could just get over his pneumonia... ; ) > It is funny to see how motorcycle parking has become much more available > this week... > > - Jeannette ------=_NextPart_000_01BE080C.C85388A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

My bike is parked outside my office = right now.  It was invigorating riding to work this morning. =  Then again, I like cold weather.  It means that ski season is = right around the corner.  Now if I could only get a ski rack for my = bike (and a guarantee that there won't be any ice on the = hiways......).

I am up for a ride Saturday.  My wife has = Saturdays off so she can ride with me!!

----------

> Temps too low!!??  No = WAY!!
> Now, if Tom could just get over his pneumonia...  ; = )
> It is funny to see how motorcycle parking has become much more = available
> this week...
>
> - Jeannette

------=_NextPart_000_01BE080C.C85388A0-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:30:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01863 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16159 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (known imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA24997 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:45 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WQJLa07909; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4692049d.3640c75e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:30:06 EST To: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: TLR sites Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Here's a couple to get ya started: http://www.traderonline.com/cycle/index.shtml http://www.motorcycleshopper.com/ Lung - Going to the HOG meeting, not for the beer, but rather to see if my gum is still under the stool. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:31:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01873 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:31:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA16175 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:31:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA25191 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:31:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA05992 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:31:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3640C715.A9CF0647@illuminet.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 21:28:53 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: MSF cards and the military X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been working on and AirForce contract for the past year, and have had an opportunity to try to get on several bases. This week was the first time I've been asked for my MSF card. It was about 40 and raining Monday morning when I entered the base. I was able to convince them that my instructor card was close enough, even though it was expired. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 16:50:34 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02267 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:50:32 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA22767; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:52:16 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma022345; Wed, 4 Nov 98 16:51:14 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1X00AMP3BOSY@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B2.00779ADD ; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:46:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:46:16 -0500 Subject: Seneca Rocks To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B2.00779B6B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I've been looking through the archives and noticed that there are a lot of postings about Seneca Rocks rides. I just wanted to let everyone know that as a rock climber for the last five or so years, I've had a lot of occasions to hang around there. I spent almost every summer weekend there last year, so I'm pretty familiar with the drive/ride there and the amenities in town. If anyone needs information about this little 'burg or is interested in taking a ride down there, I'd be psyched to do it. Especially since I'm now riding a motorcycle. (I wasn't last year) Chris Weaver '92 Yamaha Seca II ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:05:29 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02514 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:05:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA26878; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:04:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D241.193@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:16:33 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" CC: "'dc'" Subject: Re: Anyone riding? References: <199811042020.PAA00607@meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > Something Saturday would work best were I to ride (hrm.. 2 > MDers starting a ride..) > > You know any good roads up there Robert? I know some ok > ones from the beltway to like Urbania.. Keep me informed! -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:06:15 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02524 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:06:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28291 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:06:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D2AD.7DB4@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:18:21 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless self promotion References: <4.1.19981104124206.00fcc3e0@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Norloff wrote: > > Dyslexics of the World Untie! My Favorite Support Group: D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:16:06 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02707 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:16:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA06736 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:15:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D4F6.2C59@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:28:06 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military References: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532B7@sw730x023.visa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jordan, Michael wrote: > > I parked my bike close to the gurad shack and was walking Jordan: > to the Exchange when a young (I assume) marine rode through > the gate wearing the required vest, tennies, shorts, tank > top and helmet. You have to remember that I tried to join the marines, but my GT score was too high. And, I bet you couldn't find the orange vest at the Exchange, either. I have been looking for one for years, at BX's, PX's and NEX's and never found even one. I want to have one in my truck's toolbox in case I have a flat tire, etc, at night. I want to be seen in the dark as I work to correct the problem. On the bike I have lights, etc. I have never ridden in tennis shoes, and I haven't worn shorts in public in the last 25 years..... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:17:49 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02717 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:17:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08656; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:17:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D55A.3667@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:29:46 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Big Plans...some moto -Reply References: <19981104184728.18747.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > > How can signalling to turn cause it to die? You're > supposed to use your left hand to signal, not your > right. Or do like me, use both hands and keep watching > the mirrors. Cute.... Real cute...... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:21:39 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02832 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:21:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:21:04 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:20:58 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:20:11 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline How about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who used to lie awake at night and wonder if Dog really exists? >>> Marvin Heilesen - 11/4/98 5:18 PM >>> Chris Norloff wrote: > > Dyslexics of the World Untie! My Favorite Support Group: D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:23:19 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02848 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:23:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA15356 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:23:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D6AA.59B6@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:35:22 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE Military bases References: <007301be0823$fcc06f60$b60f4dc6@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken wrote: > When did all this BS with getting on base with a bike > start, I dont remember ever having trouble back 17, 18 > years ago? All this talk reminds me of why I got the > hell out ;) I have been in for 13.5 now, and it has been full of all this BS the whole time. But, I choose to ignore most of the S. Maybe that is why I am a SSG with almost 9 years in grade.... (If you need to know how to personally piss off )-5's and above, just ask. I could teach a whole full semester college course on the subject.... I have a real "funny" story concerning an AF BG....) -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:27:44 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA02957 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:27:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA17362 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:27:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01407 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:27:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20265; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:27:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D7A8.4BC9@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:39:36 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military References: <852566B2.006725D4.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve_Beck@XXXXXX wrote: > > >>I wrote a letter to the commander applauding his > >>actions in promoting safety, but pointing out the > >>shortsigntedness of his approach. - Never received > >>a response > Of course not. That would be an admittance of his > ignorance to a subordinate. When I wrote my letter to that AF BG, I did get a response....and a transfer. I was in the right, but he was too good for an SSG (E-6) to give direction. Actually, he termed it that I was telling him where to go.... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:31:43 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03037 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:31:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24985 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:31:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640D8A3.7AD0@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:43:47 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Law References: <19981104185609.20220.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > > Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had > training material that said it was only legal in > Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to > know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. There are a lot of things that are legal in Calif. But, you don't want to smoke dope there, you might get a ticket! I think a bumper sticker I saw while visiting my uncle in Portland sums it up nicely: "Don't Californicate Oregon" But, it would be nice to know the laws in DC. Not that I would ever have any reason to ride there.... (I HATE cities) -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:39:13 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03167 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:39:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA02925; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:39:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640DA62.672D@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:51:14 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military References: <19981104190057.9994.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > > I now carry a vest in the bottom of my tank bag > (unfortunately it doesn't help when I don't have > my tankbag), and now when I get told to put on a > vest I stop right there, get off the bike, root > through the bag like I can't find it, take off > the helmet (helmet too big or hole too small), > put on the vest, put on the helmet, restart the > bike, check mirrors, and go. (Before I get > screaming complaints I only do this in light to > no traffic and only to guards who are jerks; > which is almost all of them). Screaming complaints??? I LOVE IT!!! > On Navy bases in uniform I find growling menacingly > at the guard almost always works. The problem is that Navy bases either have "rent-a-cops" (only cause a problem when they are the gifted ones and can actually read), or they are "Auxillery Security Force", which means they are given two weeks training and handed a gun. I got a call one night because these "Nazi Storm Troopers" had a wild dog that they caught on a catch pole and then maced. When I got there, I was warned to "be careful". I walked up, dropped to one knee, and called to the dog. The poor girl walked up to me, layed down, and let me pet and console her. I loved making those idiots look like idiots..... But you can see the problem if you question them....you'll probably end up shot and bleeding... -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 17:53:20 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA03435 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:53:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from tfs.net (207-172-90-13.s267.tnt12.ann.erols.com [207.172.90.13]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA18241; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:53:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3640DDB2.2D25@iname.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:05:22 -0500 From: Marvin Heilesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Seneca Rocks References: <852566B2.00779B6B.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > > I've been looking through the archives and noticed that > there are a lot of postings about Seneca Rocks rides. I'm > pretty familiar with the drive/ride there and the amenities > in town. If anyone needs information about this little 'burg > or is interested in taking a ride down there, I'd be psyched > to do it. I have no idea where or what they are, but I'm game. How's about Saturday? You feel like leading a ride? -- Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 18:40:06 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04316 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:40:05 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DS9E6GXG; Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:39:50 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Joke Message-ID: <19981102.153005.5271.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 9,13,23-24,34,44,46-49,51 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:39:50 EST So. This loser, broke and really down on his luck, shuffles into a bar for a beer to drown his sorrows. There's a big sign over the bar that says, "World's Toughest Man Contest - $3000 Prize." Seeing this, the loser perks up a little and as the bartender sets a cold one on a napkin in front of him, he leans forward on his bar stool and asks about the contest, "What do I have to do to win the prize money?" The bartender eyes him for a minute while he wipes the bar down, then he answers, "Well, it's a three step process to win the money. First off, see that big fellow down at the end of the bar?" The two look in the direction the bartender nods his head toward a huge construction worker, about 6'6" and near 300 lbs of rippling muscle. "That's Big Jim," the bartender continues, "Step One is you have to kick his ass." The loser glances at Big Jim once more and says, "That looks like a pretty tall order. What's Step Two?" "For Step Two, you have to go upstairs and pull an abscessed tooth from an 800 lb gorilla we got up there," says the bartender, pointing toward the ceiling. "Damn," says the loser, "I'm almost afraid to ask, but what's Step Three?" The bartender hooks his thumb toward the back of the bar and says, "Well, if you survive Big Jim and the gorilla, you have to go out back and have intercourse with a nymphomaniac named Wanda until she's satisfied." The loser slumps back on his bar stool, somewhat dejected, and says, "That seems like an awful lot of work for three grand. I guess I'll pass." He quickly drains his beer glass and leaves even more sullen than when he came in. A few weeks go by and now the loser is desperate for any way out of his financial troubles. Remembering the $3000 prize money, he rushes into the bar and shouts to the bartender, "Hey, is that contest still going on?" When the bartender nods, he asks, "What was Step One again?" The bartender points to the end of the bar. The loser nods and walks down that way, rolling up his sleeves, and taps Big Jim on the shoulder. "I'm here to kick your ass." The two of them step outside and shortly a noisy skirmish ensues. After about ten minutes, the loser staggers back into the bar. His clothing is ripped and he's bruised and bleeding in several places, but he's got Big Jim's hardhat in his hand. He tosses it to the floor and says to the bartender between ragged breaths, "What's Step Two again?" The surprised bartender says nothing, but he points upstairs. Nodding once more, the loser heads up the stairs. The sounds of near mortal combat echo throughout the bar. Several thudding impacts on the floor upstairs cause pictures to fall from the walls below and a crack forms and widens in the ceiling itself. After about twenty minutes of this, the loser stumbles down the stairs. He is even more covered with bruises and scrapes. His clothes are torn to ribbons. Both his eyes are purple and swollen. He's missing hair in a few places on his scalp. He spits out a tooth and says to the bartender through his mashed lips, "Okay. Where's that woman with the abscessed tooth?" JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ps. Sorry. I was saving this for a rainy day, but it rained yesterday and I was off... ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:20:41 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05216 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA18689 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA05197 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09750 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:24 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050020.TAA09750@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:17:36 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: hi - need help :) -helmet On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:13:09 EST, WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: >Good suggestion Collin. The emphasis should definitely be on the fact that in >this area you are REQUIRED by law to wear one. If you dont like it, good for >you, bitch and moan and complain and mumble...but you still have to wear it. You're right. I'll bitch and moan and complain and mumble. However, I vote absentee Idaho, and we don't have a helmet law (if you're over 18). :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:20:40 1998 Return-Path: snake01@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05215 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09770; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050020.TAA09770@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "Gil M. Nissley" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:21:13 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sun On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:37:09 +45722824 (EDT), Gil M. Nissley wrote: >Check the decal pages in a Dennis >Kirk catalog and you might find them. I've heard of this catalog. Do you have a source you can send me? Thanks in advance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:20:38 1998 Return-Path: snake01@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05214 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09714 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:20:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050020.TAA09714@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:14:56 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <004901be0797$e700d480$8e8eaccf@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: insurance... On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:07:28 -0600, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: >They only offer the course up at Fort Meade and Fort Belvoir....the Belvoir >class is supposedly full until after Christmas....The reason I want to take >the course on base for those who are wondering is that it is free, because >it is mandatory....or atleast it used to be???? I need the course. I need to use it to exempt me from the riding portion of the license test whenever I get back home. For all of you who wonder, Idaho was the 50th state to have a motorcycle license. My "current" license was issued in Feb 89 and was to drive truck. As military, I keep getting extensions. As soon as another one of my or my wife's relatives die, I will stop by and get a new license. Until that, my "current" one is valid. This is one of the biggest pains being military. I was never offered a motorcycle license..... BTW, I am trying out a new email program here at home. Any feedback concerning this and the next couple messages would be appreciated. I now even have a spell check! (PMMail for OS/2) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:26:50 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05289 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:26:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA13266 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:26:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <009001be085b$49103e40$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: gloves for winter Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:26:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I got a great deal on some thick winter riding gloves down at Cycle Sport the other day...... 40% off on some gloves...ONLY catch is you have to have big hands..like me...all the gloves where xl or xxl....I got a pair for $15 that where originaly priced at 40 some bucks....if your unlucky like me and have really thick mutton hands then you should be alright...... Les Katana 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:49:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05617 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA18981 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id TAA05996 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from ursulina (207-172-120-156.s156.tnt14.brd.erols.com [207.172.120.156]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23962 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00bf01be086f$60932280$9c78accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:49:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Yep, it's channel 45 with Media General. Tuesday nights are Motorcycle night from about 6 pm to 11 pm, give or take a 30 minutes time slot here or there. During the summer I recorded lots of motorcycle racing but things have quieted down now and it's mostly vintage racing shows. But do note that channel 45 airs more than just Speedvision. Also sharing that bandwidth is Outdoor Life Magazine, a live vet show, and infomercials so you have to check your local listings, as they say. - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 7:57 AM Subject: Re: Speedvision coming to Jones/PG County >In a message dated 11/4/98 10:37:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, ghowell@XXXXXX >writes: > ><< I'm crossing my fingers for Jones in Chas. Co. >> > >heheheh.......Media General has had it for awhile now. Channel 45 I believe? > >Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 19:59:41 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA05802 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:59:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17239; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:59:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <364192EA.1F8D417D@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:58:34 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Heilesen CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line References: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532B7@sw730x023.visa.com> <3640D4F6.2C59@iname.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try stopping and talking to a construction crew... Since the CG doesn't require the orange vests on our bases, I didn't have one, so I needed something to get onto Bolling for a pick-i-nick. Talked to the foreman of the crew working in DC across the street from my building and asked if they had a spare one I could buy... walked over to the truck and gave me two (one for me and the other for my office mate). Said his son was in the army, etc. etc. Not the fanciest vests in the world, but good enough to get you on a military base and to be seen better.... I generally wear mine out and about (till recently..My son's gone and hidden it somehwere and I haven't found it yet) Collin Marvin Heilesen wrote: > I want > to have one in my truck's toolbox in case I have a flat > tire, etc, at night. I want to be seen in the dark as I > work to correct the problem. On the bike I have lights, > etc. > -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 20:12:31 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06026 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:12:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA06110 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:12:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <012301be0861$ae54de40$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:11:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military I saw some orange vests at the Ft. Meyer and Ft. Belvoir BX's just last week..they have them in the fishing/hiking/gym/bicycle/softball etc...sections......I have a couple myself...I was required to wear one while riding my "bicycle" on base when I was stationed in Korea..... Also when I took the MSF course back in 90' down in Va. Beach...the base legal office informed us that we were required to wear the vest and all the other mandated safety gear OFF BASE in case we have a wreck..he said that the military can forfiet our medical benefits and make us pay the bill in full...plus whatever the punishment would be for disobeying an order. Now that i've done my bit for recruitment...the gloves that I got from Cycle Sport (ref. earlier post) actually made my hands sweat on the ride home today.....anybody else want to push that person off the Wilson bridge today..... Enjoy....Les Kat 750 And, I bet you couldn't find the orange vest at the Exchange, either. I have been looking for one for years, at BX's, PX's and NEX's and never found even one. I want to have one in my truck's toolbox in case I have a flat tire, etc, at night. I want to be seen in the dark as I work to correct the problem. On the bike I have lights, etc. Snake From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 20:26:46 1998 Return-Path: snake01@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06170 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:26:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13712; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:26:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050126.UAA13712@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles" , "Leslie N. Forewright" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 20:38:51 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <009001be085b$49103e40$d1bbaccf@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: gloves for winter On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 19:26:14 -0600, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: >I got a great deal on some thick winter riding gloves down at Cycle Sport >the other day...... 40% off on some gloves...ONLY catch is you have to have >big hands..like me...all the gloves where xl or xxl....I got a pair for $15 >that where originaly priced at 40 some bucks....if your unlucky like me and >have really thick mutton hands then you should be alright...... Les Katana >750 > I have "fat fingers" where I need an extra large. I am also ignorant in that I haven't saved any addresses of cycle shops that have been posted here. Please let me know where they are located. And, how close are they to Wheaton or Bethesda? So far I am "stuck" with wearing mittens. I have frost bitten my fingers so many times, they get too cold even if the weather is in the 50's. Luckily it never gets cold here in the DC area. Thanks. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 20:39:49 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06460 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:39:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA19525 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:39:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA07124 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:39:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ursulina (207-172-120-156.s156.tnt14.brd.erols.com [207.172.120.156]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA21360 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:39:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <010e01be0876$6a419a80$9c78accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:40:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 No, no, the coolest are the with the microphones attached! Now that's S*E*X*Y! Rrroww! ;-D - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... >In a message dated 11/4/98 11:22:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, >todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: > ><< You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> > >LOL Todd! Good one. >He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > >Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 20:45:33 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06608 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:45:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA25093; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:45:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <017201be0866$4c02f060$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "Marvin Heilesen" , "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: gloves for winter Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:45:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Subject: Re: gloves for winter Cylce Sport is located in Springfield, Va. 6603 Backlick Rd. (703)451-9330...quite a drive from Bethesda..but that is what bikes are for....just hit the belt way and and go to I-95 south...not sure what exit it is...stupid yeah...i've ridden down there so many times that I dont' even pay attention to the signs anymore.....I could show you with my eyes closed, just by the feel of the bumps in the road....not recommended though.. Les Kat 750..... I have "fat fingers" where I need an extra large. I am also ignorant in that I haven't saved any addresses of cycle shops that have been posted here. Please let me know where they are located. And, how close are they to Wheaton or Bethesda? Snake From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:18:40 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07094 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:18:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA19869 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:18:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA07992 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:18:35 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WLEHa10440 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:17:08 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <7ee2bce2.36410aa4@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:17:08 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: hi - need help :) -helmet Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 In a message dated 11/4/98 8:29:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, snake01@XXXXXX writes: << You're right. I'll bitch and moan and complain and mumble. However, I vote absentee Idaho, and we don't have a helmet law (if you're over 18). :) >> Too bad you dont live in Idaho, huh? Jack From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:42:59 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07430 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:42:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA20063 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:42:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA08321 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:42:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA16936; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:42:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050242.VAA16936@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "WantAZX6@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 21:54:59 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <7ee2bce2.36410aa4@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: hi - need help :) -helmet On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:17:08 EST, WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: >In a message dated 11/4/98 8:29:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, snake01@XXXXXX >writes: > ><< You're right. I'll bitch and moan and complain and mumble. ><<Too bad you dont live in Idaho, huh? In many ways. Have you ever seen pictures of the Grand Tetons? 45 miles from home. Have you ever thought of visiting Yellowstone National Park? About an hour and a half from home. Some of the most beautiful riding/fishing you could ever imagine. And you wonder why I am trying so hard to get thrown out of the Army..... We could all only be so lucky as to live in Idaho (but then it would be too crowded, and I would be complaining about all of you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:44:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07441 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:44:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA20078 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:44:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (known imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA08344 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:44:46 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3PGUa29193; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:40:19 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <2a7427e6.36411013@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:40:19 EST To: snake69@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 I'm riding up to Hagerstown Saturday. If the weather isn't too cold, I'll be on my bike... Yes, if it doesn't at least hit 60 degrees, I'll be in my Tracker! la Lee Andrese From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:48:45 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07510 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00283 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <01a601be086f$1f5f8ba0$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Department of Motor Vehicles (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if you want to check out the road rules here are the places to do it....these are kinda helpful.... http://www.dmv.state.va.us/ http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ Thanx and enjoy, Les Kat 750 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Department of Motor Vehicles.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Department of Motor Vehicles.url" [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ Modified=C07B55C96E08BE018E ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:48:48 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07513 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-187-209.s209.tnt18.brd.erols.com [207.172.187.209]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA00294 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000901be086f$22515460$d1bbaccf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Department of Motor Vehicles (http://www.dmv.ca.gov/) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:48:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if you want to check out the road rules here are the places to do it....these are kinda helpful.... http://www.dmv.state.va.us/ http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ Thanx and enjoy, Les Kat 750 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Department of Motor Vehicles.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Department of Motor Vehicles.url" [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.dmv.ca.gov/ Modified=C07B55C96E08BE018E ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE083C.CF7EB480-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 21:50:55 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA07626 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:50:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA20127 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:50:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id VAA08428 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:50:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA24757 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:50:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050250.VAA24757@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:02:57 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981104112901.00deaee0@mail.wheatintl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: local elections On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:30:18 -0500, Michael Troutman wrote: >The Post has a nice site with the results from all of the elections: > >http://elections98.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/vaelect/ >results/allva.htm > >but to read their front page headlines, you would think that the Democrats >crushed the GOP in every election. Click on any story on the front page >and it is obvious that they play up the dem wins and GOP losses, even >though the GOP came out very strong! > >No - this isnt MC related, but that doesnt matter. I have found (being a conservative), that if the liberal press endorses a candidate, it is a good reason to vote for the opposition. The newspapers tend to support those candidates who want to take away all the rights of the individual, dictate how we think, do and feel, and generally try to live life for us, assuming all responsibility. Needless to say, I vote republican (and am for freedom of choice). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 22:05:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA07913 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:05:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20359 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA08716 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:05:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com (207-172-36-110.s110.tnt6.ann.erols.com [207.172.36.110]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA10203; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:05:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050305.WAA10203@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX" , "snake69@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:17:37 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <2a7427e6.36411013@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anyone riding? On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:40:19 EST, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX wrote: >I'm riding up to Hagerstown Saturday. If the weather isn't too cold, I'll be >on my bike... Yes, if it doesn't at least hit 60 degrees, I'll be in my >Tracker! la Lee, why are you riding up there? So far I have heard nothing from the rest of the group concerning riding this weekend. I am in the mood to ride. I ride to work in the morning, and with the right equipment (and my law mandated half helmet), I am fine. If there is nothing else, I would love to ride to Frederick with you. Kay is off so she'll be with me. You know where I live. So, if no one else organizes a ride on Saturday, I expect you to meet me at my house and ride together all over hell's half acre on our way to Frederick. I'll even lead. :) Let me know. Maybe someone else on the list wants to ride to Frederick, so we might get some company. Let me know..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Wed Nov 4 22:27:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08206 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:27:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA20690 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:27:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (known mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA09145 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:27:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([208.220.24.174]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 195; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:26:21 -0500 Message-ID: <36411BCA.6286075D@tidalwave.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:30:18 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Heilesen CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone riding? References: <199811042106.QAA26138@pop02.globecomm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > My bike is parked outside my office right now. It was invigorating > riding to work this morning. Yep, it's almost getting cold enough to remove the sportbike fairing I've got on BugSlayer and put the tall one back on. Gotta play with the tall one some more, I'm still getting loads of helmet buffeting with it. Not fun. I still love the looks I get when I carry my helmet into the office on some of the colder mornings we've been having. Folks think I'm crazy, and they leave me alone. Cool. :) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) "You know, the scary thing is, there's horkster@XXXXXX a whole bunch of people around here Dale City, Virginia who think I am normal!" - Me 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:05:19 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09683 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:05:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA07384; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:01:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:56:34 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <012301be0861$ae54de40$d1bbaccf@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > I saw some orange vests at the Ft. Meyer and Ft. Belvoir BX's just last > week.. For Army types,you should also be able to get one issued by your unit supply officer._Motorcyclist_ printed a letter in their Streewise(think that's the name) section from an Army guy that also gave the NSN. > when I took the MSF course back in 90' down in Va. Beach...the base legal > office informed us that we were required to wear the vest and all the other > mandated safety gear OFF BASE in case we have a wreck..he said that the > military can forfiet our medical benefits and make us pay the bill in > full...plus whatever the punishment would be for disobeying an order. Now As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the Navy.The Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:23:37 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09894 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:23:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA07504; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:20:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:19:11 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Sun To: Marvin Heilesen cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" In-Reply-To: <199811050020.TAA09770@smtp1.erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Marvin Heilesen wrote: > On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:37:09 +45722824 (EDT), Gil M. Nissley > wrote: > >Check the decal pages in a Dennis > >Kirk catalog and you might find them. > I've heard of this catalog. Do you have a source you can > send me? Go to http://www.denniskirk.com/catalogmain.html and you can get a free one. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:26:50 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA09908 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA07515; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:23:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:21:55 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <001a01be080d$d774b6a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Todd Peer wrote: > You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how are > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! Moot point for you Todd,you ride Rice. ;-) The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:27:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA09983 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22926 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:27:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (known imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA11362 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:27:13 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WURMa10656 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:26:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <81411c3.36413707@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:26:31 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Saturday ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Well then, there seems to be an interest in a ride the Saturday. The one ride sheet in my area I have is the "Arch Run" from a couple months ago that starts in Hagerstown. It's a scenic ride with some twisties, but I'm likely to take it at a slow pace (compared to the WSDYMFG!!) because it will only be my second time on that specific route. If interested, let me know! Where's everyone coming from? We can either arrange to meet somewhere near Frederick/Urbana or, if there enough VA riders that don't know the Frederick area, I can meet them in Leesburg and rendesvous with the other Marylanders. Or whatever. I'm flexible, but I only get to check my e-mail 1 1/2 times a day, so planning is kinda hard for me to do. BTW, I'm willing to lead! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:36:07 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10152 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA22994 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:36:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA11510 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:36:00 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WOKCa02539 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:35:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:35:21 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Everybody gave me grief at school for riding my bike on Monday. Tuesday a few people made comments. Wednesday everyone was quiet. :) Of course, I only ride for 3 miles to get to school/work, so that changes things! Riding home for lunch helps to put more than just 6 miles on the bike a day though. So far the only other bikes I've seen at school/work is an old BMW 100 something at school and a beautiful old Triumph Bonneville 750 at work, so I'm certainly not the only crazy one! =8^) Robert "What? I can't hear you through all the layers of clothing!" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black [grr... it's cold] Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:39:36 1998 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10163 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from newmicronpc (dialpm6-23.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.64]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA17260 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:39:23 -0500 Message-ID: <050401be087e$6ccf9ec0$3510b1cd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:37:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This from the Vulcan list -- upcoming International Motorcycle Shows -- ->Dec. 4-6: Long Beach Convention Center,Long Beach, CA >Dec. 11-13: San Mateo County Expo Center, San Mateo, CA >Jan. 1-3: Washington State Trade Center, Seattle, WA >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY >Jan. 29-31: IX Center, Cleveland, OH >Feb. 5-7: Rosemont Convention Center, Chicago, IL >Feb. 12-14: Minneapolis Convention Center, Minneapolis, MN >Feb. 19-21: Georgia International Convention Center, College Park, GA >Mar. 3-7: Daytona International Speedway, Daytona Beach, FL >Mar. 12-14: America's Center, St. Louis, MO > Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 00:53:01 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10366 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA23194 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (known suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com [149.52.55.130]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA11724 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:52:56 -0500 (EST) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id AAA04591; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:55:49 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050555.AAA04591@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Need help/ Helmets To: hgg@XXXXXX (Harry G. Greenspun, M.D.) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:55:48 -0500 (EST) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981103215038.007eb300@pop.mindspring.com> from "Harry G. Greenspun, M.D." at Nov 3, 98 09:50:38 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > At 09:11 PM 11/3/98 -0500, wes wrote: > >My advice would be to go with a Shoei. > > The only caveat to that is that people seem to have either a Shoei head > or an Arai head. Shoei fits better on rounder heads (viewed from above), > while Arai does better on a more oval head. All my previous helmets were > from Shoei. They fit very snugly against my forehead, though relativley > loose around my cheeks. I used to get a red dot in the middle of my > forehead after a hour or so. I tried on an Arai and it fit so much better. > I'll never wear anything else (unless my head shape changes!). Others I > know have had the reverse experience. > Conclusion: try a bunch of brands to find one that fits well all over. Arai has 2 types of helmets: Signet ( classis Arai ) Quantum ( roounder, Shoei like ). I used Bell, Shoei, and A- Quantum. Arai is lightest and quietest. Well, most expensive as well... > > Harry > Bethesda, MD > '97 BMW R1100RT > http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm > "The more you live, the less you die." > _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 01:39:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA11062 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:39:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA23601 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA12350 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:36:34 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:42:17 -0500 Message-ID: <005101be0887$6e0ff7e0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: Hopefully, there's something planned for Sunday. Saturday, I'm going to Bob's Open House (if I'm not stuck going to Ohio:( ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Just curious. Are there any plans for a group ride this weekend? > Or are the > temps to low? ;p From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 01:43:10 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA11152 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:43:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA23652 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA12363 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:42:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:39:56 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Marvin Heilesen" , Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:45:39 -0500 Message-ID: <005201be0887$e6583460$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01BE085D.FD822C60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <199811042106.QAA26138@pop02.globecomm.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01BE085D.FD822C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Went to Killington in May about 18 mos. ago. Dude was carrying a snowboard on some older UJM. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX My bike is parked outside my office right now. It was invigorating riding to work this morning. Then again, I like cold weather. It means that ski season is right around the corner. 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------=_NextPart_000_0053_01BE085D.FD822C60-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 01:57:25 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA11380 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:57:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.33]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 01:44:19 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "mobacc" , "Dc Cycles" Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500 Message-ID: <005701be0888$834a1f40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <050401be087e$6ccf9ec0$3510b1cd@newmicronpc> Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > -----Original Message----- > From: mobacc [mailto:mobacc@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 12:38 AM > To: Dc Cycles > Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule > > > This from the Vulcan list -- upcoming International Motorcycle Shows -- > > > ->Dec. 4-6: Long Beach Convention Center,Long Beach, CA > >Dec. 11-13: San Mateo County Expo Center, San Mateo, CA > >Jan. 1-3: Washington State Trade Center, Seattle, WA > >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > >Jan. 29-31: IX Center, Cleveland, OH > >Feb. 5-7: Rosemont Convention Center, Chicago, IL > >Feb. 12-14: Minneapolis Convention Center, Minneapolis, MN > >Feb. 19-21: Georgia International Convention Center, College Park, GA > >Mar. 3-7: Daytona International Speedway, Daytona Beach, FL > >Mar. 12-14: America's Center, St. Louis, MO > > > > Bill S. / DC > 99 VN750 > Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 02:21:58 1998 Return-Path: gixer@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA12467 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 02:21:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (207-172-40-107.s107.tnt11.ann.erols.com [207.172.40.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11098; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 02:21:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3641F102.1BE1DA74@geocities.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:40:02 -0500 From: "Collin T. Fagan (cfagan@XXXXXX)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: George Howell CC: Dc Cycles Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule References: <005701be0888$834a1f40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No can do.... That's the first race weekend of the 99 race season... and after a winter without my fix, you can bet I'll be there!!! Collin George Howell wrote: > > Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? -- _________________________________________ Collin and Penny Fagan LTjg, U.S. Coast Guard (202) 366-0067 (work) (703) 356-4279 (home) ICQ UIN: 435732 http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ (us, bikes, reptiles, and more) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 04:57:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA15334 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:57:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA25735 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:57:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id EAA14639 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:57:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com (207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com [207.172.57.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA26123 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:57:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811050957.EAA26123@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:09:21 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <36411BCA.6286075D@tidalwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anyone riding? On Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:30:18 -0500, Dale Horstman wrote: >I still love the looks I get when I carry my helmet into the office >on some of the colder mornings we've been having. Folks think >I'm crazy, and they leave me alone. Cool. :) I work in a small office. Everyone there knows that I am crazy. They don't think twice when i ride in on a cold morning. It's especially nice when all the young kids, who's first impression is that I am just another old fart, get to know me and see my wild side. My only question is how'd I get this damn old? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 05:23:24 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15667 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:23:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com (207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com [207.172.57.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA28540 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:23:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051023.FAA28540@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:35:30 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:56:34 +45722824 (EDT), Gil M. Nissley wrote: > For Army types,you should also be able to get one issued by your >unit supply officer._Motorcyclist_ printed a letter in their >Streewise(think that's the name) section from an Army guy that also >gave the NSN. I guess that would be me. Since I am NCOIC, US Army Element, I wear a lot of hats. Too bad we (I) don't have a unit supply. > As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the Navy.The >Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. It's a DoD policy. The only difference is the enforcement. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 05:25:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA15680 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:25:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA26048 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:25:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (known smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA14974 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com (207-172-57-107.s107.tnt2.ann.erols.com [207.172.57.107]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA28808; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 05:25:44 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051025.FAA28808@smtp3.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "NJitzul@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 05:37:53 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <81411c3.36413707@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Saturday ride On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:26:31 EST, NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: >Well then, there seems to be an interest in a ride the Saturday. The one ride >sheet in my area I have is the "Arch Run" from a couple months ago that starts >in Hagerstown. It's a scenic ride with some twisties, but I'm likely to take >it at a slow pace (compared to the WSDYMFG!!) because it will only be my >second time on that specific route. If interested, let me know! Where's >everyone coming from? We can either arrange to meet somewhere near >Frederick/Urbana or, if there enough VA riders that don't know the Frederick >area, I can meet them in Leesburg and rendesvous with the other Marylanders. >Or whatever. I'm flexible, but I only get to check my e-mail 1 1/2 times a >day, so planning is kinda hard for me to do. BTW, I'm willing to lead! Urbana area works for me, then we can pick up others elsewhere. What's a good meeting time? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 06:07:52 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA16246 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA26415 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (known imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA15422 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:07:47 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3OKHa29193; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:03:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:03:15 EST To: snake69@XXXXXX, "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Saturday ride Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 Starting in Hagerstown... Snake, are you doing that for my benefit? Where do you want to hook up and what time... I just may join you on that one! Sounds great actually!!! Yes, I'll even introduce you to the new one! Let us know! From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 07:03:37 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA16891 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:03:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051203.HAA16891@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:03:19 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Ski Rack? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:00:36 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) I can help you with the ski rack.. well, I had a KZ440 with studed tires (hrm, a couple dozen 1/2" wood screws and some duct tape) and a basket to hold boots, skis and poles welded to the bike.. I used to go on 30 miles 'jaunts' up the mountain from my home in Montana on the thing to go skiing.. or to work, as the case may have been at the time.  And, yea.. at that time I did own a cage.. umm, 86 Jeep Wagoneer.   Anything can be done if you have some patience and creativity..   Brian -----Original Message----- My bike is parked outside my office right now.  It was invigorating riding to work this morning.  Then again, I like cold weather.  It means that ski season is right around the corner.  Now if I could only get a ski rack for my bike (and a guarantee that there won't be any ice on the hiways......). From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 07:14:30 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17070 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:14:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051214.HAA17070@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:14:26 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Idaho.. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:11:41 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) He's not kidding in any way.. Actually making me more homesick than I already was... enough to start some more on-line job searching in the Idaho/Montana/Wyoming area.. Damn, what's wrong with computer geeks living in the mountains? grrrrr Brian > -----Original Message----- > > In many ways. Have you ever seen pictures of the Grand > Tetons? 45 miles from home. > > Have you ever thought of visiting Yellowstone National > Park? About an hour and a half from home. > > Some of the most beautiful riding/fishing you could ever > imagine. And you wonder why I am trying so hard to get > thrown out of the Army..... > > > > > We could all only be so lucky as to live in Idaho (but then > it would be too crowded, and I would be complaining about > all of you. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 07:23:30 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA17203 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:23:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051223.HAA17203@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:23:26 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Sat. Ride... Meeting? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 04:20:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Ok.. Looks like we'll be meeting somewhere up in Hagerstown... If anyone that's planning on attending happens to ride by College Park, MD.. let me know, we can hook up for the ride up there. I know some good roads to warm up the bike/tires on. Fun at 65 with a little challange, but nothing difficult to keep that speed with (my routes for when I want to just go cruise). Otherewise.. when and where in Hagerstown? Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 08:26:02 1998 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18068 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:26:01 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.1) id VMGQa09168; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:25:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:25:09 EST To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: "'dc'" Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Sat. Ride... Meeting? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 I live in Annapolis... but I'm not sure if I'll ride chase that day and ride behind my friend when we get to Hagerstown or not. Anyone want to meet on 32 at the Park & Ride around 9:00 a.m. then ride to Hagerstown with another hook up there Rob said he'd be willing to lead. Rob, if you pick a place and time to meet in Hagerstown, you've got yourself a following to the "Arch Run!" I'll even send out a confirmation for everyone! Lee From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 08:45:45 1998 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18395 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:44:42 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 05 Nov 1998 08:44:41 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 05 Nov 1998 08:44:41 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 01CF63641ABC9018-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 01CF63641ABC9018 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <01CF63641ABC9018*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 05 Nov 1998 08:44:41 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: DC Cycles Subject: The estimate is in . . . part one Message-Id: <01CF63641ABC9018*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Yesterday afternoon I call Coleman's to ask if the estimate will be ready if I come by after work and they tell me yes it will. So when I'm done in the office, I get on the metro, ride to Falls Church and walk to Colemans. When I get there at 5:15, what do I see. Them just getting started on the estimate. Then they tell me, "It probably won't be ready today, the parts guy goes home soon so he won't be able to look up the prices". I tell them it had better be ready, since the only reason I came out here was that they told me the estimate would be ready and I could come pick it up. So they say we will do our best. I pointed out some of the less obvious damage and told them I would come back at about 6:30. I went down the street for dinner and when I came back the estimate was ready. The total was only $3,500. I was totally shocked. Then I looked at the estimate. They missed more things than I could imagine. Some examples: Both upper fairing (or maybe its one piece) are damaged around the turn signal stalks...they didn't see it. The side stand is bent... they didn't see it. The gas cap is mangled... they didn't see it The left pillion foot peg assy is bent and scratched... they didn't see it The black plastic thing below the radiator in front of the headers is cracked... they didn't see it. Needless to say, I'm not at all happy with the job they did. This isn't exactly hidden damage and they should have spotted it. So, I need to call them back and get the estimate updated. In my estimation it will add another $1,000 or $1,200 the price bringing the grand total to $4,500 to $4,700. More in line with what I originally thought, but I think it is still fixable. I'll keep you folks updated. Don B. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:00:35 1998 Return-Path: cna00039@XXXXXX Received: from gold.wvnet.edu (gold.wvnet.edu [129.71.2.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18583 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:00:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from bill (129.71.51.41) by gold.wvnet.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.4C455D80@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 9:04:30 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be08c4$a6ab29c0$29334781@bill> Reply-To: "Bill Sowers" From: "Bill Sowers" To: Subject: Digest mode Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:59:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE089A.A5713C40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE089A.A5713C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Would you please change my subscription to a "digest" mode. 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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BE089A.A5713C40-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:03:46 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18601 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:03:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051403.JAA18601@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:03:37 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: DC Cycles Subject: RE: The estimate is in . . . part one Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:00:51 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Damn, even the one thing we all said they could do.. they F'd up.. can't those guys get ANYTHING right? Tell me Don, did it look like everyone's mommy dressed them for work that day? Did you happen to see a grade-school style coat rack with a bunch of Barney and Rugrats lunch boxes laying around? Seesh, I'm glad I have a shop that's competent, quick and friendly.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > The total was only $3,500. I was totally shocked. > Then I looked > at the estimate. They missed more things than I could imagine. > > Some examples: > Both upper fairing (or maybe its one piece) are damaged > around the turn > signal stalks...they didn't see it. > The side stand is bent... they didn't see it. > The gas cap is mangled... they didn't see it > The left pillion foot peg assy is bent and scratched... they > didn't see > it > The black plastic thing below the radiator in front of the > headers is > cracked... they didn't see it. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:12:20 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18753 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:12:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105141352.7243.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:13:52 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:13:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military To: "Gil M. Nissley" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The NSN for the vest is 8415-00-177-4974. In case you feel lucky, the NSN for a Chevy Blazer is 2320-01-123-6827 or 2320-01-123-2671 (I think its different NSN for 2 or 4 WD). While you're at it, the NSN for a very good Armor-All clone is 8030-01-087-3589 for the gallon. For Todd I have 4 NSNs for Hunter cieling fans. Sorry, I don't have the NSN for potatos but they have them. Hurlburt Field and Eglin AFB are practically next door to each other but part of different commands. One CO requires vests and shoes (you could be naked except for vest and shoes) on or off base. The other requires long sleeves on or off base but no vest. USCG has prosecuted some people for being in an accident without all required safety equipment, but as far as I know most people beat it unless the injury was related to the gear. I have also seen people go to Captains Mast (Article 15) for not wearing the required gear. There does not seem to be a clear policy on enforcement. ---"Gil M. Nissley" wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > > I saw some orange vests at the Ft. Meyer and Ft. Belvoir BX's just last > > week.. > > For Army types,you should also be able to get one issued by your > unit supply officer._Motorcyclist_ printed a letter in their > Streewise(think that's the name) section from an Army guy that also > gave the NSN. > > > when I took the MSF course back in 90' down in Va. Beach...the base legal > > office informed us that we were required to wear the vest and all the other > > mandated safety gear OFF BASE in case we have a wreck..he said that the > > military can forfiet our medical benefits and make us pay the bill in > > full...plus whatever the punishment would be for disobeying an order. Now > > As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the Navy.The > Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. > > > > The official BuellBoy Genes model. > > gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> > > '98 FXDS-Conv > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:14:19 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18765 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:14:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc1-s18.wizard.net (tc1-s18.wizard.net [206.161.15.48]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA16839; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:14:01 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: "George Howell" Cc: "mobacc" , "Dc Cycles" Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <364db20b.308470441@smtp.wizard.net> References: <005701be0888$834a1f40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> In-Reply-To: <005701be0888$834a1f40$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" wrote: >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I assume would be the 16th: >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) Drop me a line if you're interested! Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:24:42 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18909 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:24:20 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:24:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:23:08 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake01@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, gnissley@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sun -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Call D. Kirk at 800-328-9280 and they'll send you any/all of their catalogs: street, dirt, Harley, snowmo. Get the snow catalog if you ride in what passes for "cold" weather here. Joe ex of the Land of 10,000 (soon to be frozen) Lakes and one former pro wrasslin Governor-elect. >>> "Marvin Heilesen" - 11/4/98 7:21 PM >>> On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:37:09 +45722824 (EDT), Gil M. Nissley wrote: >Check the decal pages in a Dennis >Kirk catalog and you might find them. I've heard of this catalog. Do you have a source you can send me? Thanks in advance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:25:05 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA18922 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:25:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105142632.13613.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:26:32 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:26:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Law To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Leave it to those Californyans to invent a new category. While "legal" and "not legal" are good enough for the rest of us, they have to add "not illegal". ---christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > > Ray, I don't mean to split hairs, but since you are looking for accurate > info .... > > It is not legal in California. Rather it is not illegal. The issue is > that CA does not have a statute that prevents two vehicles from occupying > the same lane. > > You can be ticketed for splitting in CA if you don't follow the "unwritten > rules", such as not above certain speeds, in commuter lanes, etc. > > Later, > chris > > To: Bikes R Us , robmoody@XXXXXX > cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > From: Ray > Date: 11/04/98 06:56:09 PM GMT > Subject: Re: Law > > > > > Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had training material > that said it was only legal in Californy. If it's legal in DC it > would be nice to know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. > Ray > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:28:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18997 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:28:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28307 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18157 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:28:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id IAA01541; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:27:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105142710.PQOR649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:27:10 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Leon Begeman" , Cc: Subject: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:25:27 -0500 Message-ID: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3640B5F9.B7C42388@illuminet.net> Importance: Normal Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet with a flip up chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a chin bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for different style helmets? Todd Leon Begeman wrote: > I got one of those on order. The sales guy at Coleman tried to talk me > out of buying it. . . . He was concerned about it not having Snell > certification. > > WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now > THATS sexy) > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:31:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19038 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28361 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net (known relay2.smtp.psi.net [38.8.188.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18313 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from [38.179.155.66] (helo=subspace.tuckerflyer.com) by relay2.smtp.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for dc-cycles@XXXXXX id 0zbQR8-0007SA-00; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:30:58 -0500 Received: by subspace.tuckerflyer.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: <2AA74B7F5518D111ADAF00805F31F84DBADDAE@badge.tuckerflyer.com> From: "O'Brien, Jeannette" To: "'NJitzul@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:25:16 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain I know what you mean. I showed up to class last night and the first ten minutes of class were devoted to discussing why/how I ride in when it's cold. LOL - Jeannette > -----Original Message----- > From: NJitzul@XXXXXX [SMTP:NJitzul@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 12:35 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Anyone riding? > > Everybody gave me grief at school for riding my bike on Monday. > Tuesday a few > people made comments. Wednesday everyone was quiet. :) Of course, I > only ride > for 3 miles to get to school/work, so that changes things! Riding home > for > lunch helps to put more than just 6 miles on the bike a day though. So > far the > only other bikes I've seen at school/work is an old BMW 100 something > at > school and a beautiful old Triumph Bonneville 750 at work, so I'm > certainly > not the only crazy one! =8^) > > Robert "What? I can't hear you through all the layers of clothing!" > VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black [grr... it's cold] Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:36:42 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19146 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:36:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11936; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:21:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:33:58 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA111@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Marvin Heilesen'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:33:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Ahhhhh, and people make fun of the CG for being Department of Transportation!!!! he he he.... There are a few commands that try to get you to wear a vest, but they are few and far between... You do have to have an MSF card to get a sticker on the bike though. However, all you have to do is flash a mil id and they'll let you on withou the sticker!! I just had Pen go in and get the sticker for the gsxr (which never got mounted...) cause she had an MSF card...I've never taken it (oops, I wasn't supposed to tell that)... The other good thing about being DOT, was when the budget stuff was all in a turmoil and DOD folks weren't sure if they were going to be getting paychecks or not...Our budget was already approved..no worries about if the checks would come.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marvin Heilesen [SMTP:snake69@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 8:39 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military > > > As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the Navy.The > >Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. > > It's a DoD policy. The only difference is the > enforcement. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:40:25 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19160 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:40:19 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA00098; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:04 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma029862; Thu, 5 Nov 98 09:41:04 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00GO6E2MXI@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.00503626 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:36:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:35:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Seneca Rocks To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.00503735.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Who, me? I just started riding a couple of weeks ago and have not even gone on a single group trip yet. Um... I think I'll pass for the time being. I would, however, be interested if someone else is leading. BTW, Seneca Rocks is a small town (intersection, really) in the panhandle of West Virginia. There's a large, impressive rock formation that towers over the little town. It's somewhat of a Mecca for rock climbers from the DC, VA, MD and PA areas, and you can watch people climb the 400-600 fin of rock. It's a scenic ride/drive to get there, also. The way to get there is to travel I-66 west to I-81 (or other alternate smaller roads). Take I-81 south, then take your second (?) exit onto route 55. Route 55 winds through three large ridgelines and several small towns on the way to Seneca Rocks. >From DC it takes about two and a half hours to get there (plus stops). A good round trip would go south from Seneca Rocks through Franklin, WV, then east to meet back up with I-81 further south. From there, you could take any number of small roads through Virginia to get back, I suppose, or take I-81 to I-66 east. Marvin Heilesen wrote: > I have no idea where or what they are, but I'm game. How's > about Saturday? You feel like leading a ride? Regards, Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:41:56 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19170 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:41:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105144330.23077.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:43:30 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:43:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Law To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I used to hate all cities until I went to Tokyo for a week. Now I hate all cities except for one. ---Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > Ray wrote: > > > > Does anyone know about it being legal in DC? I had > > training material that said it was only legal in > > Californy. If it's legal in DC it would be nice to > > know so I can put out the correct info in my courses. > > There are a lot of things that are legal in Calif. But, > you don't want to smoke dope there, you might get a ticket! > > I think a bumper sticker I saw while visiting my uncle in Portland sums > it up nicely: > > "Don't Californicate Oregon" > > But, it would be nice to know the laws in DC. Not that > I would ever have any reason to ride there.... (I HATE > cities) > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:42:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19246 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA28547 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18593 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:42:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:42:26 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX, snake01%erols@XXXXXX, snake01@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Remember guys, quite a few people are taking the ERC class this weekend. = That's why there aren't too many rides going on. Scooter >>> "Marvin Heilesen" 11/04/98 10:17PM >>> On Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:40:19 EST, LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX wrote: >I'm riding up to Hagerstown Saturday. If the weather isn't too cold, = I'll be >on my bike... Yes, if it doesn't at least hit 60 degrees, I'll be in my >Tracker! la Lee, why are you riding up there? So far I have heard nothing from the rest of the group concerning riding this weekend. I am in the mood to ride. I ride to work in the morning, and with the right equipment (and my law mandated half helmet), I am fine. If there is nothing else, I would love to ride to Frederick with you. Kay is off so she'll be with me. You know where I live. So, if no one else organizes a ride on Saturday, I expect you to meet me at my house and ride together all over hell's half acre on our way to Frederick. I'll even lead.=20 :) Let me know. Maybe someone else on the list wants to ride to Frederick, so we might get some company. Let me know..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:47:01 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19325 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:46:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105144827.25102.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:48:27 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:48:27 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You mean on those acid trips where I thought I was talking to God I was talking to his dog? (won't you Yankees be surprised when you find out Heaven looks like Graceland!) ---JOE NAGY wrote: > > How about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who used to lie awake at night > and wonder if Dog really exists? > > >>> Marvin Heilesen - 11/4/98 5:18 PM >>> > Chris Norloff wrote: > > > > Dyslexics of the World Untie! > > My Favorite Support Group: > > D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:51:44 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19402 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:51:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051451.JAA19402@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:51:34 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Snell ratings.. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:48:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) My understanding of the Snell rateing is that Snell rates helmets for 'race use'. I.E. - they don't look at low speed impacts, but the other end.. high speed crashes and the effects they'll have on the helmet. Typically Snell helmets have a 'harder' feel as they have more firm foam for impact absorbtion. Where-as DOT has a softer material. The physics people will better be able to describe why something that's a bit denser can aid in more protection at higher impacts (something with your head moving less overall distance within the helmet there-by reducing the possibilty of concussion). I believe that all SNELL lids automatically are DOT rated as well.. (as in DOT doesn't test something that Snell already tested.) But I may be wrong about that.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:57:28 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19490 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:57:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id ACD31B90520; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:57:23 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105094523.00fc44e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:45:51 -0500 To: Marvin Heilesen , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Law In-Reply-To: <3640D8A3.7AD0@iname.com> References: <19981104185609.20220.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:43 PM 11/4/98 , Marvin Heilesen wrote: >But, it would be nice to know the laws in DC. Not that >I would ever have any reason to ride there.... (I HATE >cities) Cities are just another kind of wilderness. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:57:40 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19499 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:57:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id ACD41B90520; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:57:24 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105094819.00fc65e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:48:39 -0500 To: "Marvin Heilesen" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Sun In-Reply-To: <199811050020.TAA09770@smtp1.erols.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:21 PM 11/4/98 , Marvin Heilesen wrote: > >>Check the decal pages in a Dennis >>Kirk catalog and you might find them. > >I've heard of this catalog. Do you have a source you can >send me? http://www.denniskirk.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 09:59:03 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19509 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:59:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13581; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:47:26 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:59:59 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA114@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Seneca Rocks Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:59:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Oh my goodness Chris....Do you think you could have given them a more boring route down to the rocks!!???!! he he he How bout 647 out of Marshal to Flint Hill, Left at the end of the road, Right turn at first light (can't remember the raod name, but it's only about a block after you turned off of 647) at the Y, follow road to the right (pavement is reddish), all the way into Washington, VA, left at 4 way intersection, right onto 211 west over both mountain ranges, then for speed sake, jump on 81 south for about 15-20 miles and hit 33 west through the forest and over the mountains!! much more motorcycle friendly route...very chilly this time of year though... CT From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:00:04 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19542 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:00:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA28750 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (known send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA19245 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:59:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105150137.28903.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:01:37 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:01:37 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... To: Ursulina Viteri , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Ursulina Viteri wrote: > > No, no, the coolest are the with the microphones attached! Now that's > S*E*X*Y! Rrroww! ;-D > > - - Ursulina You're a very sick girl. > > -----Original Message----- > From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 8:49 AM > Subject: Re: Rider Killers Was: I want to buy a helmet... > > > >In a message dated 11/4/98 11:22:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, > >todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: > > > ><< You want to spend over $200 on a gaurunteed neck breaker! Besides, how > are > > all the 'chicks' gonna see you. There won't be any 'jean creamin' if you > > look like one of those head bobbin toys in the back window of a car! >> > > > >LOL Todd! Good one. > >He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now THATS sexy) > > > >Jack > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:02:48 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19589 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:02:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105150414.4500.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:04:14 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:04:14 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: George Howell , mobacc , Dc Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Trying to get a group together? I might be interested if it doesn't cost too much. ---George Howell wrote: > > Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? > > ---------------------------------------- > -George Howell > ghowell@XXXXXX > georgehowell@XXXXXX > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mobacc [mailto:mobacc@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 12:38 AM > > To: Dc Cycles > > Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule > > > > > > This from the Vulcan list -- upcoming International Motorcycle Shows -- > > > > > > ->Dec. 4-6: Long Beach Convention Center,Long Beach, CA > > >Dec. 11-13: San Mateo County Expo Center, San Mateo, CA > > >Jan. 1-3: Washington State Trade Center, Seattle, WA > > >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > >Jan. 29-31: IX Center, Cleveland, OH > > >Feb. 5-7: Rosemont Convention Center, Chicago, IL > > >Feb. 12-14: Minneapolis Convention Center, Minneapolis, MN > > >Feb. 19-21: Georgia International Convention Center, College Park, GA > > >Mar. 3-7: Daytona International Speedway, Daytona Beach, FL > > >Mar. 12-14: America's Center, St. Louis, MO > > > > > > > Bill S. / DC > > 99 VN750 > > Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:05:31 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19679 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:05:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105150706.6503.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:07:06 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:07:06 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Ski Rack? To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I saw some boogie board and surf board racks on bikes that might work. ---"McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > > I can help you with the ski rack.. well, I had a KZ440 with studed tires > (hrm, a couple dozen 1/2" wood screws and some duct tape) and a basket to > hold boots, skis and poles welded to the bike.. I used to go on 30 miles > 'jaunts' up the mountain from my home in Montana on the thing to go skiing.. > or to work, as the case may have been at the time.  And, yea.. at that time > I did own a cage.. umm, 86 Jeep Wagoneer. >   > Anything can be done if you have some patience and creativity.. >   > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > > > > My bike is parked outside my office right now.  It was invigorating riding > to work this morning.  Then again, I like cold weather.  It means that ski > season is right around the corner.  Now if I could only get a ski rack for > my bike (and a guarantee that there won't be any ice on the hiways......). > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:11:59 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19701 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:11:59 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:11:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:08:35 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Yup. And as you learned on the "Homer's Chili Trip" episode of the Simpson's, the Dog sounds just like Johhny Cash. Which only makes sense, since I know that The Man In Black is a deity of some sort. FYI, I don't consider myself a Yankee. I'm just a simple, scruffy, backasswards northwoods jackpine savage. Actually hoping heaven looks like Jay Leno's garage, Joe >>> Ray - 11/5/98 9:48 AM >>> You mean on those acid trips where I thought I was talking to God I was talking to his dog? (won't you Yankees be surprised when you find out Heaven looks like Graceland!) ---JOE NAGY wrote: > > How about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac who used to lie awake at night > and wonder if Dog really exists? > > >>> Marvin Heilesen - 11/4/98 5:18 PM >>> > Chris Norloff wrote: > > > > Dyslexics of the World Untie! > > My Favorite Support Group: > > D.A.M. - Mothers Against Dyslexia > > -- > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:12:50 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19777 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:12:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29007 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from beta.nova.org (known beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19649 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:12:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from ra1-06.dial.nova.org (ra1-06.dial.nova.org [209.31.144.166]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA10981 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:12:29 -0500 (EST) From: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:18:47 GMT Message-ID: <3642c171.100027664@beta.nova.org> References: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> In-Reply-To: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:25:27 -0500, "Todd Peer" wrote: >Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a >Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet with a = flip up >chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a = chin >bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for = different >style helmets? How about checking out www.smf.org and see what Snell says. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:13:43 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19787 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:13:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0A21F80520; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:13:38 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105101536.00fd4c40@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:17:37 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Law In-Reply-To: <19981105142632.13613.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:26 AM 11/5/98 , Ray wrote: >Leave it to those Californyans to invent a new category. While >"legal" and "not legal" are good enough for the rest of us, they have >to add "not illegal". It depends a lot on whether the law tells you what you can do or what you can't do. In the US, it's generally allowable to do anything that isn't illegal. That's good. In Germany, I hear, many things are expressly not allowed unless a law allows them. No thanks. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:14:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19811 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:14:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29016 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:13:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19677 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:13:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA31902; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:13:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3641C004.BF2A5F56@illuminet.net> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:11:00 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Todd Peer CC: WantAZX6@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They don't have Snell ratings because the manufacturers haven't submitted them for testing. The reason I saw (I think it was on the LDRIders list) was that they can sell all of them they can make without the test, so why spend the money to get the testing done. Leonn. Todd Peer wrote: > > Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a > Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet with a flip up > chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a chin > bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for different > style helmets? > > Todd > > Leon Begeman wrote: > > I got one of those on order. The sales guy at Coleman tried to talk me > > out of buying it. . . . He was concerned about it not having Snell > > certification. > > > > WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > He could buy one of those flip up chin guard helmets! (now > > THATS sexy) > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:17:02 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19887 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:16:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105151819.14563.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:18:19 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:18:19 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, George Howell Cc: mobacc , Dc Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" > wrote: > > >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? > > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > assume would be the 16th: > > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) > > Drop me a line if you're interested! > Anita > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:18:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19897 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29058 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (known uhura.concentric.net [206.173.119.93]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19833 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mariner.cris.com (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/08/04 5.11)) id KAA17077; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:26 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from localhost by mariner.cris.com (8.8.5) id KAA13785; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:25 -0500 (EST) From: TURNIP To: NJitzul@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saturday ride In-Reply-To: <81411c3.36413707@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would be very interested in going on a ride this Saturday particularly if we can meet in Leesburg. What does WSDYMFG stand for? I figure it has something to do with "double yellow mo fo" but I haven't figured out the rest. Thanks Hugh A. Caldwell From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:18:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19900 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29065 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA19837 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture ([38.241.229.100]) by vulture.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with SMTP id 393 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:18:08 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19981105101041.01be3e00@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:18:05 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Michael Troutman" Subject: ISO : Accountant motorcyclist for Telecom Company (and 3 Jokes) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm going to shamelessly try to fill a (soon to be) open position here at my company through this email forum. I did manage to relate it to motorcycles - the accountant that is leaving was a motorcyclist and a good friend of mine. The position is officially 'Director of Finance' and is basically the comptroller of our mid-sized telecommunications company. Dont let that threaten you though, she was 25 and didnt have her CPA yet, so anyone can apply. The company is Wheat International ( http://www.wheatintl.com ) for which I am the webmaster. You will not find a job description on the site, since she just put the resignation in today. Pay and bennies are great, so please pass the offer along. Office is 3 story building in Reston just off the toll road and Sunrise Valley. If interested, email gcitizen@XXXXXX or fax your amazing resume to 703-262-9130. Thanks :-) BTW - If you made it this far into the email, you deserve a reward.: 3 Jokes ======= A man is driving down a deserted stretch of highway, when he notices a sign out of the corner of his eye. It reads: SISTERS OF MERCY HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION - 10 MILES. He thinks it was just a figment of his imagination and drives on without a second thought. Soon, he sees another sign which says: SISTERS OF MERCY HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION - 5 MILES and realises that these signs are for real. When he drives past a third sign saying: SISTERS OF MERCY HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION NEXT RIGHT his curiosity gets the best of him and he pulls into the drive. On the far side of the parking lot is a sombre stone building with a small sign next to the door reading: SISTERS OF MERCY. He climbs the steps and rings the bell. The door is answered by a nun in a long black habit who asks, "What may we do for you, my son?" He answers, "I saw your signs along the highway, and was interested in possibly doing business." "Very well, my son. Please follow me." He is led through many winding passages and is soon quite disoriented. The nun stops at a closed door, and tells the man, "Please knock on this door". He does as he is told and this door is answered by another nun in a long habit and holding a tin cup. This nun instructs, "Please place $50 in the cup, then go through the large wooden door at the end of this hallway." He gets $50 out of his wallet and places it in the second nun's cup. He trots eagerly down the hall and slips through the door, pulling it shut behind him. As the door locks behind him, he finds himself back in the parking lot, facing another small sign: GO IN PEACE, YOU HAVE JUST BEEN SCREWED BY THE SISTERS OF MERCY. ===================================== If you throw a cat out a car window, does it become kitty litter? If corn oil comes from corn, where does baby oil come from? When a cow laughs, does milk come out its nose? Why do they put Braille on the number pads of drive-through ATM's? How did a fool and his money get together in the first place? If nothing sticks to Teflon, how do they stick Teflon on the pan? If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them? What's another word for thesaurus? Why do they sterilize the needles for lethal injections? What do they use to ship Styrofoam? Why is abbreviation such a long word? Why is there an expiration date on my sour cream container? How do you know when it's time to tune your bagpipes? Is it true that cannibals don't eat clowns because they taste funny? When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? Does fuzzy logic tickle? Do they have reserved parking for non-handicapped people at the Special Olympics? Why do they call it a TV set when you have only one? What was the best thing before sliced bread? Why do you need a driver's license to buy liquor when you can't drink and drive? Why are there interstate highways in Hawaii? Have you ever imagined a world with no hypothetical situations? You know that little indestructible black box that is used on planes, why can't they make the whole plane out of the same substance? Why is it that when men are driving and looking for an address, they turn down the volume on the radio? If a book about failures doesn't sell, is it a success? What do you do if an endangered animal eats an endangered plant? Is it possible to be totally partial? Can you be a closet claustrophobic? If a turtle doesn't have a shell, is he homeless or naked? Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds? Why are there flotation devices under plane seats instead of parachutes? Why are cigarettes sold in gas stations when smoking is prohibited there? Do you need a silencer if you are going to shoot a mime? How does the guy who drives the snowplow get to work in the mornings? If 7-11 is open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, why are there locks on the ors? If you're in a vehicle going the speed of light, what happens when you turn on the headlights? You know how most packages say "Open here". What is the protocol if the package says, "Open somewhere else"? Why is it that when you transport something by car, it's called a shipment, but when you transport something by ship, it's called cargo? =============================================== Stutter Solution A guy who has a stuttering problem goes in to his doctor. . ."Ex-ex-ex-cu-cu-se m-m-me d-doc. but but I I have th-th-this st-st-stuttering problem and I I I was wo-wondering if you c-c-c-could help m-m-m-me." "Well take off your clothes and get into this gown and let me check you over." The guy get into the gown and the doctor begins his check-up. The doctor, quite suprised, says, "I see what your problem is, you penis is so large that it's pulling your vocal chords. "W-w-w-well, c-c-can you h-h-hlp m-m-me?" "Sure I can, but we'll need to cut off about eight inches." "I-I-I-I can't t-t-t-take this an-any more, do it" Six months later the guy goes back to the doctor. "Well doc, I must say that the operation was a great success, but my sex life really sucks and I would like my operation reversed. Please put back on what you took off." The doctor replies, "F-f-f-f-fuck Off!" ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 (Cherry Red) Putting it away for winter.... From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:21:34 1998 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20000 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:21:32 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA20127; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:23:10 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa19927; Thu, 5 Nov 98 10:22:56 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00MGIG0JYH@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:21:55 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.00540DE0 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:18:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:17:55 -0500 Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.00540F97.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last Jan/Feb. Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:23:21 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20018 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:23:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA23990; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:23:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051523.KAA23990@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Ray Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:22:38 -0500 Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19981105151819.14563.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 7:18, Ray wrote: > How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? Last time I checked, the train was over $100 round trip (per person). Bus is cheaper - but I have only ridden the DC-NY bus ONE time, and that was 15-16 years ago... one time was definitely enough!!! :-) I figure a group in a van has got to be cheaper than the train, and it's not a bad way to travel! I've driven a 15 passenger van before, and other than being loooong, it's okay. Or, with a smaller group a minivan or regular size van. I'll check some prices. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:26:01 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20039 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:25:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105152724.18558.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:27:24 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:27:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Van seems like the way to go. ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > On 5 Nov 98, at 7:18, Ray wrote: > > > How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? > > Last time I checked, the train was over $100 round trip (per > person). Bus is cheaper - but I have only ridden the DC-NY bus > ONE time, and that was 15-16 years ago... one time was definitely > enough!!! :-) > > I figure a group in a van has got to be cheaper than the train, and > it's not a bad way to travel! I've driven a 15 passenger van before, > and other than being loooong, it's okay. Or, with a smaller group a > minivan or regular size van. I'll check some prices. > > Anita > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:26:45 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20061 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:26:41 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA22477; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:28:25 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa22239; Thu, 5 Nov 98 10:27:53 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00NLTG8R08@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:26:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.00548191 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:23:01 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:23:39 -0500 Subject: Re: local elections To: Marvin Heilesen Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.00546979.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL and I told myself I was gonna stay out of this one ... damn! Snake aka Marvin Heilesen wrote: >I have found (being a conservative), that if the liberal >press endorses a candidate, it is a good reason to vote for t>he opposition. So you are saying you don't make up your own mind? >The newspapers tend to support those candidates who want to >take away all the rights of the individual, dictate how we >think, do and feel, and generally try to live life for us, >assuming all responsibility. I do not believe the media can be that organized. You are giving them waaay too much credit. Also aAre you aware that there is "right-winged" media out there? Ever heard of the American Spectator, a fat guy named Limbaugh, the Christian Science Monitor, Washington Times ... etc. etc. etc. >Needless to say, I vote republican (and am for freedom of >choice). No, you stated that your "choice" is the opposite of the media's. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Snake >aka Marvin Heilesen >Team OS/2 --chris ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:28:54 1998 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20143 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net ([166.32.114.127]) by mailmessenger.tidalwave.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.5) with ESMTP id 327; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:27:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3641C42E.3CBD95FC@tidalwave.net> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:28:46 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ray CC: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply References: <19981105144827.25102.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray wrote: > (won't you Yankees be surprised when you find out Heaven looks like > Graceland!) Uhhm, sign me up for Hell, please! :) Thank you, thankyouverymuch... Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:30:34 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20184 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:30:33 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105153210.17212.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:32:10 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:32:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shameless selfpromotion -Reply To: Dale Horstman Cc: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't you remember, DC IS hell. ---Dale Horstman wrote: > > Ray wrote: > > > (won't you Yankees be surprised when you find out Heaven looks like > > Graceland!) > > Uhhm, sign me up for Hell, please! :) > Thank you, thankyouverymuch... > > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours "BugSlayer" > 1976 Kawasaki KZ400 > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:35:28 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20265 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:35:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:36:56 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:36:45 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: ghowell@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mobacc@XXXXXX Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm up for a trip to NY. Van or train is fine with me. Scooter >>> Ray 11/05/98 10:18AM >>> How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? =20 ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" > wrote: >=20 > >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? >=20 > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > assume would be the 16th: >=20 > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY >=20 > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) >=20 > Drop me a line if you're interested! > Anita >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com=20 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:37:25 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20283 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:37:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:38:57 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:38:27 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, NAGYJ@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all these newbies means it's time for shamelessselfpromotion -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hey! I resemble that remark. :-) Scooter (Also hoping heaven looks like Jay Leno's garage.) >>> JOE NAGY 11/05/98 11:08AM >>> FYI, I don't consider myself a Yankee. I'm just a simple, scruffy, backasswards northwoods jackpine savage.=20 Actually hoping heaven looks like Jay Leno's garage, Joe From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:37:50 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20303 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:37:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25513; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:37:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051537.KAA25513@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:37:07 -0500 Subject: RE: Seneca Rocks CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA114@MSCEX> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 9:59, Fagan, Collin LTJG wrote: > > > Oh my goodness Chris....Do you think you could have given them a more > boring route down to the rocks!!???!! he he he How bout 647 out of Marshal > to Flint Hill, Left at the end of the road, Right turn at first light > (can't remember the raod name, but it's only about a block after you > turned off of 647) at the Y, follow road to the right (pavement is > reddish), all the way into Washington, VA... >From 647 it's a left turn on 522 for about 1 block, then a right turn on 606 which becomes 628. There isn't a traffic light in Flint Hill, it's too small! :-) I did a nice ride out to Seneca Rocks in early August... took 55 out, and came back via 33. Nearly got hit by a house on 33, but a good trip otherwise! :-) If I remember correctly it was about 300 miles round trip from Sterling. I would definitely do that route again next year. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:38:48 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20313 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA29360 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from postal.clark.net (known postal2.clark.net [168.143.0.18]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA20949 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from loas.clark.net (loas.clark.net [168.143.0.13]) by postal.clark.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA15103 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:28:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from manitou.bdanet.com (bdanet.com [209.70.174.3]) by loas.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02474 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:38:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdanet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:41:47 -0500 Message-ID: <21C53F566655D111845600A0C90D6A260365F7@bdanet.com> From: David Cross To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Snell ratings.. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:41:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > My understanding of the Snell rateing is that Snell rates helmets for > 'race > use'. No, that is not true. Snell has different standards but did not create them with racing in mind. > I.E. - they don't look at low speed impacts, but the other end.. high > speed crashes and the effects they'll have on the helmet. > Helmets are only designed to protect your head from an impact of about 13mph, which is the typical speed your head reaches when you fall from the seat of the motorcycle onto the pavement. If you slide head first into a wall at 20mph, the helmet is NOT designed for that extreme an impact. > Typically Snell > helmets have a 'harder' feel as they have more firm foam for impact > absorbtion. Where-as DOT has a softer material. > Um . . . this is not true. If I handed you a two unmarked helmets you would have a pretty hard time telling which was DOT and which was Snell. > I believe that all SNELL lids automatically are DOT rated as well.. > Again, not necessarily true. There have been Snell rated helmets that did not meet DOT standards. To learn more about Snell standards go to their website at: http://www.smf.org/ Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:40:32 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20329 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:40:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA25843; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:40:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051540.KAA25843@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:39:45 -0500 Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Priority: normal In-reply-to: <852566B3.00540F97.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > Jan/Feb. I've been to the Baltimore show... while I did find it interesting to look at all the decked out custom bikes, it was VERY light on new bikes, and riding apparel and accessories. I probably wouldn't bother going again. I understand that the NY show is much better. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:42:43 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20421 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16642; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:31:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:43:33 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA11F@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'christopher.meier@XXXXXX'" , Marvin Heilesen Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:43:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Yipee....it's not me stirring up the pot this time!!! he he he > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX > [SMTP:christopher.meier@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 10:36 AM > To: Marvin Heilesen > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: local elections > > and I told myself I was gonna stay out of this one ... damn! > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:51:12 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20539 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17227; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:39:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:52:07 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA120@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Anita Lauro'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:52:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain It's two differnt shows... The one in Cleveland, NY, etc. is the good one. The one in Baltimore is primarily set up by area dealers that carry many of the "international" brands. While you will see some nice stuff, you won't see near the content as the big show in NYC. > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [SMTP:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 10:50 AM > To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule > > On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > > Jan/Feb. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:54:46 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20560 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:54:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105155557.6705.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:55:57 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:55:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: SCOTT Rush , ghowell@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mobacc@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Somebody else will have to be the designated driver. I'll be the designated drinker. ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > I'm up for a trip to NY. Van or train is fine with me. > > Scooter > > >>> Ray 11/05/98 10:18AM >>> > > How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? > > > > ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" > > wrote: > > > > >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? > > > > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > > assume would be the 16th: > > > > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > > > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) > > > > Drop me a line if you're interested! > > Anita > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:55:07 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (send205.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.165]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20573 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:55:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105155523.5161.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send205.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:55:23 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:55:23 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: SCOTT Rush , ghowell@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mobacc@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If we're going to New York City, I'll bring the rope. ---SCOTT Rush wrote: > > I'm up for a trip to NY. Van or train is fine with me. > > Scooter > > >>> Ray 11/05/98 10:18AM >>> > > How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? > > > > ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 01:50:02 -0500, "George Howell" > > wrote: > > > > >Anybody else heading to Cleveland for the show at the IX center? > > > > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > > assume would be the 16th: > > > > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > > > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) > > > > Drop me a line if you're interested! > > Anita > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 10:57:24 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20657 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:57:22 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105155842.8320.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:58:42 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 07:58:42 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >From what I understand the balto show and the traveling show are different series, different types of shows, and appealing toward a different demographic. I hope to do both shows. ---Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > > On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > > Jan/Feb. > > I've been to the Baltimore show... while I did find it interesting to > look at all the decked out custom bikes, it was VERY light on new > bikes, and riding apparel and accessories. I probably wouldn't > bother going again. I understand that the NY show is much better. > > Anita > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:08:33 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20834 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18580; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:54:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:07:24 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA124@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Ray'" , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:07:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain A rope??? Kinda reminds me of the saying "Never bring a knife to a gunfight" I'll be sure to have my MAK-90 handy :) (although for a non-firing weapon, i really do love those ASP batons :)) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:07:43 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20831 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:07:41 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105160917.13773.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:09:17 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:09:17 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: DC Traffic blocked by jumper To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Was I the only person that got stuck by the jumper on the Wilson bridge? The first day in five months I have to get from one side of DC to the other and the beltway is closed, I had to drive through DC. Next time someone wanting to commit suicide blocks traffic for five hours, I vote we get a sniper out there to shoot him off the bridge. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:09:10 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20837 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:09:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA29924 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:09:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA22246 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:09:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.35]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:06:00 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Todd Peer" Cc: Subject: RE: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:10:02 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be08d6$be43f1e0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> AFAIK, there's only one type of Snell certification for MC helmets. Snell only tests at the request of the manufacturer. The Nolan and BMW System helmets are a better helmet than the Duotec (quieter and a little tougher. Not sure if the latter matters in the real world) Then there's the debate raised in one MC mag over the importance of the Snell vs. DOT ratings... ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a > Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet > with a flip up > chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a chin > bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for different > style helmets? From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:10:31 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20865 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:10:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105161207.15439.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:12:07 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:12:07 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You know, as in "NEW YORK CITY! Get a rope!" What's a MAK-90? Sounds like a copy of an Ingram. I have four guns, which should I bring? ---"Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: > > A rope??? Kinda reminds me of the saying "Never bring a knife to a > gunfight" > > I'll be sure to have my MAK-90 handy :) > (although for a non-firing weapon, i really do love those ASP batons :)) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:16:09 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20975 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:16:05 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA15690; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:16:44 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma015511; Thu, 5 Nov 98 11:15:59 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y006L3IGTUA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:14:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.0058E61D ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:11:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:12:46 -0500 Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.0058E60D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL YES! The NY show (Cycle World Show) is a Manufacturers show. The Balmer show is a dealer/individual show. Big difference. Although I was hoping for more in the way of accessories at NYC. I ended up buying more at Balmer. Go figure. --chris To: Christopher A. Weaver/P I/Arlington VA/C&L/US@C&L US, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Date: 11/05/98 03:39:45 PM GMT Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > Jan/Feb. I've been to the Baltimore show... while I did find it interesting to look at all the decked out custom bikes, it was VERY light on new bikes, and riding apparel and accessories. I probably wouldn't bother going again. I understand that the NY show is much better. 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From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:18:19 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21003 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:18:16 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA17157; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:20:06 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma016961; Thu, 5 Nov 98 11:19:09 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y0082QIM6QT@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:18:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.0059331B ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:14:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:16:07 -0500 Subject: Re: The estimate is in . . . part one To: "Burger, Donald " Cc: DC Cycles Message-id: <852566B3.00593496.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Never fails huh? Go in there looking for a low bill and it costs you in body parts, go in there hoping the stick it to ya, and it is low and won't make the totaling value. Sorry to hear about that Don, chris From: "Burger, Donald " Date: 11/05/98 01:44:41 PM GMT Subject: The estimate is in . . . part one Yesterday afternoon I call Coleman's to ask if the estimate will be ready if I come by after work and they tell me yes it will. So when I'm done --snip-- ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:28:17 1998 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from stmpy.cais.net (stmpy.cais.net [199.0.216.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21173 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:28:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from wowbager (dynamic82.cais.com [207.226.56.82]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA28891 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:43:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19981105112608.006d4684@mail.dc.net> X-Sender: wowbager@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:26:08 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike Subject: Re: Intl Moto Show NYC via Amtrak In-Reply-To: <199811051523.KAA23990@radagast.wizard.net> References: <19981105151819.14563.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:22 AM 11/5/98 -0500, you wrote: >On 5 Nov 98, at 7:18, Ray wrote: > >> How about a mass mob up to NY by either van or train? > >Last time I checked, the train was over $100 round trip (per >person). Bus is cheaper - but I have only ridden the DC-NY bus >ONE time, and that was 15-16 years ago... one time was definitely >enough!!! :-) > Amtrak has discounts for 20 or more being about $130.00 per person round trip must travel as a group on unreserved coach and the 21st person goes free. the regular rate is about $150.00 >I figure a group in a van has got to be cheaper than the train, and >it's not a bad way to travel! I've driven a 15 passenger van before, >and other than being loooong, it's okay. Or, with a smaller group a >minivan or regular size van. I'll check some prices. Probably the better way to go. Mike B. > >Anita > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:42:08 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21414 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00479 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:42:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (known imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23246 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:42:02 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WEAAa02341 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:05 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Sat. Ride... Meeting? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Lee, about how long will it take to get from exit 32 to Hagerstown? If you leave there at 9, whould you be there by 11? I was thinking that we could all meet at Twigg Cycles off Rt 40. I can swing down to Leesburg to meet Hugh around 9, ride to Urbana to meet Marvin around 10 and take 40 W ALT to Hagerstown with plenty of time for refueling and such. Hugh, where's a good place to meet off of Rt 7 or 15 in Leesburg? Marvin, how about we meet at the Firestation in Urbana? Brian, where do you want to meet? Whew, coordination like this is a challenge! :) Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:41:51 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21347 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA32022; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051641.LAA32022@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Mike , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Intl Moto Show NYC via Amtrak Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3.0.1.32.19981105112608.006d4684@mail.dc.net> References: <199811051523.KAA23990@radagast.wizard.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 11:26, Mike wrote: > Amtrak has discounts for 20 or more being about $130.00 per person round > trip must travel as a group on unreserved coach and the 21st person goes > free. the regular rate is about $150.00 Ack! We could each have our own rental car for that much! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:44:07 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21453 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:44:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id KAA28384; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:43:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105164326.SFYV649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:43:26 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: The estimate is in . . . part one Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:44 -0500 Message-ID: <001301be08db$2c478fe0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199811051403.JAA18601@meretrix.com> Importance: Normal You might want to suggest to the SVC Manager you are interested in totalling the bike. Todd > Damn, even the one thing we all said they could do.. they F'd up.. can't > those guys get ANYTHING right? > > Tell me Don, did it look like everyone's mommy dressed them for work that > day? Did you happen to see a grade-school style coat rack with a bunch of > Barney and Rugrats lunch boxes laying around? > > Seesh, I'm glad I have a shop that's competent, quick and friendly.. > > Brian > > > -----Original Message----- > > The total was only $3,500. I was totally shocked. > > Then I looked > > at the estimate. They missed more things than I could imagine. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:48:15 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21553 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:48:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTA9V2QK; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:46:19 EST To: gixer@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line Message-ID: <19981102.172635.4935.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF5532B7@sw730x023.visa.com> <3640D4F6.2C59@iname.com> <364192EA.1F8D417D@XXXXXX> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 3-7 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:46:19 EST As a former Hechinger employee (Tools and Hardware) I can tell you that they carry reflective vests, usually way in the back of their "tool corrals" (yee-ha...) next to the orange road cones and the "CAUTION" tape. In case you need to know. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:51:26 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21641 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:51:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA00662 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (known mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA23643 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:51:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051651.LAA23643@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:32:31 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Snell ratings.. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:29:45 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) opps.. time to shut-up and read.. :P > -----Original Message----- http://www.smf.org/ Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:52:22 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21651 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:52:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051652.LAA21651@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:35:46 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule - LAST YEARS IMPRESSIO NS Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:33:01 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Kirk, Colleen and I went last year.. I must say, it was - well.. it was ok. Something worth doing maybe once every 4~5 years. Mostly, it was something to do with one day of a weekend. Yea, it was nice walking around and seeing the new bikes, but it wasn't any kind of a big deal. I really hope people enjoy the show.. but it just wasn't interesting enough to warrent a trip into that city (or any city) to see again.. (yea, I got to see the new R1 last year.. and the Polaris.. but, again.. whoopee). Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 11:56:03 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21686 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:56:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id LAA26276; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:54:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105165439.SLFL649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:54:39 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, "George Howell" Cc: "mobacc" , "Dc Cycles" Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <001901be08dc$bd95efe0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <364db20b.308470441@smtp.wizard.net> Importance: Normal Now this actually has potential! How Early Saturday? I personally wouldn't mind riding up, but if we've got a volunteer "designated Driver"..... ;) Todd > No, but I'm *definitely* going to the NY show... on Saturday, which I > assume would be the 16th: > > >> >Jan. 15-17: Jacob Javits Convention Center, New York, NY > > I am driving up, not riding! My truck only seats two, but I thought > if we got enough people interested we could rent a van (or large car > depending on interest) and have a "dc-cycles fieldtrip." I thought > maybe leave very early Saturday, do the show in the afternoon/early > eve, get some dinner, and head back. Maybe hook up with the New York > Lauro's (moto riding father/brother) at some point. Anyhow, that's my > general plan. I'll even be the "designated driver!" :-) > > Drop me a line if you're interested! > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:03:03 1998 Return-Path: mdpetty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21810 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:02:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <46K8TS6T>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:57:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Intl Moto Show NYC via Amtrak Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:57:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > On 5 Nov 98, at 11:26, Mike wrote: > > > Amtrak has discounts for 20 or more being about $130.00 per person > round > > trip must travel as a group on unreserved coach and the 21st person > goes > > free. the regular rate is about $150.00 > Hey, for that much (and about 40 people), we could rent a tour bus and a driver. Now THAT would be the way to go. -Mark From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:05:09 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21831 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:04:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA00989 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:04:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (known dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA24208 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:04:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA07777; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:59:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from mar-wv13-63.ix.netcom.com(204.32.189.63) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma007677; Thu Nov 5 10:59:20 1998 Message-ID: <000801be08dd$7a515de0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:58:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sorry LBB. Dont expect anything near 60 on Saturday. Weather willbe much like today, its currently 37 degrees, and the high on saturday is the same as todays at 45 degrees with a low of 26. Same again for Sunday, then a bit warmer with rain forecast for Monday. HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV -----Original Message----- From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX To: snake69@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Anyone riding? >I'm riding up to Hagerstown Saturday. If the weather isn't too cold, I'll be >on my bike... Yes, if it doesn't at least hit 60 degrees, I'll be in my >Tracker! la >Lee Andrese > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:05:42 1998 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21911 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:05:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:04:47 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:04:37 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:03:40 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, 2xracers@XXXXXX, raymondlucas@XXXXXX Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline The International show is sponsored by Cycle World--I've been to it in various cities, including last year in NYC. The big draw is new bikes from all the manufacturers. You'll also find Dunlop, Bates, Storz, etc. It's not a black-leather-and-Harley kind of deal--Though H-D is usually there with their "showroom" display. All in all, it's a pretty cool thing. Joe From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:05:52 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21909 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:05:21 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA08593; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:06:56 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma008410; Thu, 5 Nov 98 12:06:12 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00DLBKSI8W@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:05:11 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.005D8016 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:01:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:03:01 -0500 Subject: Re: DC Traffic blocked by jumper To: Ray Cc: DCCycles List Message-id: <852566B3.005D81C5.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL FYI, I live in the Landmark/Old Town Alexandria area and my SO lives in Balmer. Everytime I go to Maryland (anywhere north of Andrews AFB) I always go through the city. Believe it or not, it is *much* faster. Esp. by bike. --chris From: Ray Date: 11/05/98 04:09:17 PM GMT Subject: DC Traffic blocked by jumper Was I the only person that got stuck by the jumper on the Wilson bridge? The first day in five months I have to get from one side of DC to the other and the beltway is closed, I had to drive through DC. Next time someone wanting to commit suicide blocks traffic for five hours, I vote we get a sniper out there to shoot him off the bridge. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:08:42 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21932 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:08:33 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA10303; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:10:11 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma010130; Thu, 5 Nov 98 12:09:50 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00CZVKXZDW@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:08:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.005DCC9E ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:04:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:05:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Cc: gixer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.005DC592.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Also ... Kmart, Target, Sunny's Surplus, most hunting and fishing stores, Modells, Sports Authority, probably REI, etc. You all aren't having a tough time finding these are you? The original post stated that they we not able to be found at PX/BXs, not that they couldn't be found. Later, chris From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: 11/05/98 04:46:19 PM GMT Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line As a former Hechinger employee (Tools and Hardware) I can tell you that they carry reflective vests, usually way in the back of their "tool corrals" (yee-ha...) next to the orange road cones and the "CAUTION" tape. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:09:59 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21942 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:09:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA04665; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:08:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105170505.SQIY649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:05:05 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , "DCCycles List" Subject: RE: DC Traffic blocked by jumper Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:03:20 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01be08de$317585a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981105160917.13773.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal The police attempted to distract him by shooting a bean bag at him. Shortly thereafter the dumb ass jumped...65 feet (that's 19.825 meters to you Collin..Ha, ha). But they didn't shoot until way after rush hour. My vote is the next time this happens (and this is the second time in two years), the police line up like a firing squad and pummel the dumb-bastard with bean bags. He'll either run away or be knocked over the edge. And does anyone else feel this guy should've gone to the tower? He was just at the Alexandria riverbank. What a wuss! Todd > Was I the only person that got stuck by the jumper on the Wilson > bridge? The first day in five months I have to get from one side of > DC to the other and the beltway is closed, I had to drive through DC. > Next time someone wanting to commit suicide blocks traffic for five > hours, I vote we get a sniper out there to shoot him off the bridge. > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:10:42 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA21957 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:10:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105171154.24587.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:11:54 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:11:54 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: DC Traffic blocked by jumper To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's probably faster by bike, but not by Ford supercab longbed pickup, especially when the street sign I was looking for was missing. ---christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: > > FYI, I live in the Landmark/Old Town Alexandria area and my SO lives in > Balmer. Everytime I go to Maryland (anywhere north of Andrews AFB) I > always go through the city. Believe it or not, it is *much* faster. Esp. > by bike. > > --chris > > > From: Ray > Date: 11/05/98 04:09:17 PM GMT > Subject: DC Traffic blocked by jumper > > > Was I the only person that got stuck by the jumper on the Wilson > bridge? The first day in five months I have to get from one side of > DC to the other and the beltway is closed, I had to drive through DC. > Next time someone wanting to commit suicide blocks traffic for five > hours, I vote we get a sniper out there to shoot him off the bridge. > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:11:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21974 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01093 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA24458 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:33 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WNTKa10441 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <78ed3e7b.3641dc24@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:11:00 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Inter Moto Show NY -heheh Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 Ill go up there! Its a success as long as I get to see the Suz GSX1300R. Oh man, Id kill for one of them things. Colemans has already sold 4 of em and they arent even available until April! Jack From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:22:35 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22200 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:22:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA03316 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:22:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051722.MAA03316@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:21:57 -0500 Subject: Proposed Trip to NYC Int'l Moto Show Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Okay, I made some calls to rental agencies and so far I have not located any "full size" vans for rent in the DC area. The 15 passenger vans do not come with unlimited mileage, so the rental rate is pretty high. That currently leaves us with minivans (the Dodge Caravan size). The trick is also to only rent for 1 day, so I need a rental location open 24 hours. My proposal would be for me to pick up the van at Dulles Airport in the wee hours of the morning (6-7 am?). Then I could pick up people in one or two locations, depending on where people are coming from. One idea might be Tysons and a spot right off of Rte 95 in MD. I wouldn't want to pick up from more than 2 locations. So far, Avis has the best deal, $58.99 per day for unlimited mileage (including taxes). Adding in $80.00 for gas/parking/tolls, that brings the cost to $140.00. If we get six people (including driver), that would make the cost approximately $24 per person. That seems pretty reasonable, especially compared to the train! If we get enough interest, we could get a second van (or a tour bus!). Anyhow, that's where it's at right now. There seems to be quite a bit of interest, so at this point I'd say I'm in for at least 1 minivan full. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:23:18 1998 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22210 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:23:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA11187 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:22:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from san-tx14-63.ix.netcom.com(204.32.189.63) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma011011; Thu Nov 5 11:21:46 1998 Message-ID: <005b01be08e0$9c4de640$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:20:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01BE08B6.B2421D60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BE08B6.B2421D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For What its worth, I have always still enjoyed the Baltimore show, plus = ther are some really GREAT!! restauraunts downtown in Baltimore. In = years past it has been held around Valentines day. Anyone know if its = scheduled this year yet. =20 As for the New York show, where exactly is it? Is it near or = accesible from Grand Central station? I have traveled frequently by = train to Philadelphia. Its not cheap, but then again, it is a fun time = so long as its not too much of a hike from the station to wherever the = show is at. Its also safe in a group ;). And if its close to Mama = Leones, you could get a chance to experience one of the best Italian = restauraunts in the country. Just a suggestion. Im hoping by then I = hav partial weekends again ;). And if not, might have a bad case of the = flue...hehe;) HDKnight Ken 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BE08B6.B2421D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For What its worth, I have always = still enjoyed=20 the Baltimore show, plus ther are some really GREAT!! restauraunts = downtown in=20 Baltimore.  In years past it has been held around Valentines = day. =20 Anyone know if its scheduled this year yet.
 
    As for the New = York show,=20 where exactly is it?   Is it near or accesible from Grand = Central=20 station?   I have traveled frequently by train to = Philadelphia. =20 Its not cheap, but then again, it is a fun time so long as its not too = much of a=20 hike from the station to wherever the show is at. Its also safe in a = group=20 ;).  And if its close to Mama Leones, you could get a chance to = experience=20 one of the best Italian restauraunts in the country.  Just a=20 suggestion.  Im hoping by then I hav partial weekends again = ;).  And=20 if not, might have a bad case of the flue...hehe;)
HDKnight
Ken
1996 XLH 1200
Ride = Safe
Inwood,=20 WV
------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BE08B6.B2421D60-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:26:24 1998 Return-Path: louis@XXXXXX Received: from postal.clark.net (postal.clark.net [168.143.0.17]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22223 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:26:22 -0500 (EST) From: louis@XXXXXX Received: from shell.clark.net (clark.net [168.143.0.8]) by postal.clark.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20093 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:26:01 -0500 (EST) Received: (from louis@localhost) by shell.clark.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08498 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:26:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051726.MAA08498@shell.clark.net> Subject: Re: Intl Moto Show NYC via Amtrak To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (DC-Cycles List) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:26:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199811051641.LAA32022@radagast.wizard.net> from "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@wizard.net>" at Nov 5, 98 11:41:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text When my friend got married 2 weeks ago, he asked me to be a driver. They rented a 15 person van for about $180 I think, and I drove it with no problems. We had a cooler with soft (and other) drinks, food, etc. Was a blast. Would sure beat $130 per person. We got the van at Mongumary Wards, at Springfield Mall. Just another idea for the pot. Louis > On 5 Nov 98, at 11:26, Mike wrote: > > > Amtrak has discounts for 20 or more being about $130.00 per person round > > trip must travel as a group on unreserved coach and the 21st person goes > > free. the regular rate is about $150.00 > > Ack! We could each have our own rental car for that much! :-) > > Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:32:34 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22336 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:32:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA13520 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:32:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:32:19 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Inter Moto Show NY -heheh In-Reply-To: <78ed3e7b.3641dc24@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > Ill go up there! Its a success as long as I get to see the Suz GSX1300R. Oh > man, Id kill for one of them things. Colemans has already sold 4 of em and > they arent even available until April! ...pan to Kirk jumping to safety (flamesuit at the cleaners)... From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 12:50:13 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22680 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:50:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811051750.MAA22680@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:42:58 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Sat. Ride... Meeting? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:40:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Where's the firestation in Urbana? I can probably get there with ease (so long as I have the right town.. like 2 exits south of Fredrick, Rt80 runs through town.. Thurston Rd's on the west side of the 270 type Urbana?) If not.. give me directions somewhere up there, I'll find the place.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > > Marvin, how about we meet at the Firestation in Urbana? > > Brian, where do you want to meet? > > Whew, coordination like this is a challenge! :) > > Robert VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:14:55 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23055 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02072 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (known imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA26599 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:46 -0500 (EST) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WVMWa02538 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:12 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <877d3965.3641eaf4@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:14:12 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: RE: Anyone riding? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 temps don't get too low until there's ice on the road! C'MON guys! ;D -Marcy From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:18:38 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23111 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:18:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02101 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from send204.yahoomail.com (known send204.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.158]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA26868 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:18:05 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105181935.12741.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> Received: from [131.171.245.167] by send204.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:19:35 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:19:35 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Wakefield Subject: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Folks, Just changed jobs recently (lost/regained e-mail in process), so I haven't kept up with the list- sponsored ERC training. (Dave Jr speaking here) I'm writing to say that I got ERC instructor- certified through MD's motorcycle safety program last weekend in Glen Burnie, and I'd like to drop by Saturday to help or simply watch the veteran instructors teach the course. Let me know if I can be of assistance to you. Thanks, -Dave _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:20:53 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23188 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02132 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (known imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27431 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:48 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WUPBa10440 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <718a68aa.3641ec54@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:20:04 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: local elections Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-05 10:48:08 EST, you write: << Subj: RE: local elections Date: 98-11-05 10:48:08 EST From: cfagan@XXXXXX (Fagan, Collin LTJG) To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX ('christopher.meier@XXXXXX'), snake01@XXXXXX (Marvin Heilesen) CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Yipee....it's not me stirring up the pot this time!!! he he he >> Jessie "The Body" Ventura for President! From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:27:43 1998 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23281 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:27:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA20553 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:27:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from san-tx14-63.ix.netcom.com(204.32.189.63) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020428; Thu Nov 5 12:26:10 1998 Message-ID: <013b01be08e9$9ba904a0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:25:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Personaly I am glad the Yamaha clones are out there, as well as all the others. I really hope Polaris and Triumpg, and Guzzi starrt taking bites out of the market. Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. The place has always treated me more than fair for parts and service, but at this point I doubt I would ever even consider buying another bike from them. Right now on the floor they have 3 XLH1200 Sport models all for almost $10,000. I would love one to supplement my current 1200 Standard which is set up like a Dyna Convertible, but but not a bloody chance. I will buy from somewher else or a different bike altogether before I pay another premium like that for a bike. so let Yanaha sell all the clones they can, and start putting a dent into a place like that. Its time these dealers started acting like salespeople attempting to provide a service. The closest I have come to a Harley dealer that actuallywas trying to sell bikes was a Buell dealer and I am at the point that if I decide to trade my bike in eventually, it will definitely be for a Buell, noy a HD. They at least act like they are interested in trying to sell you a bike. Fo now unless things improve though, I expect to buy a Kawasaki to supplement the Sportster, instead of a second Sportster, before going and trading the Sportster in for a Buell. And the main factor in this decision is the lousy salesmanship at the local HD dealers. HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:31:32 1998 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23323 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:31:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA21064; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:30:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from san-tx14-63.ix.netcom.com(204.32.189.63) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021044; Thu Nov 5 12:30:22 1998 Message-ID: <014001be08ea$31bb98e0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:29:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Yeah that would be good, Very good in fact.... Would be fun. I guess I = would be willing to share in the driving also.... HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV -----Original Message----- From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Ken Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows.=20 >I sent a message to the list, but maybe it hasn't got to you yet. It's = >$960.00 for a 47 passenger bus. If we can get 32 people, it'd be=20 >$30 a head. Pretty good, I think. > >Anita > >On 5 Nov 98, at 13:03, Ken wrote: > >> Hey Anita, that does not sound like a bad idea, Do you know how much = a >> charter bus runs?, I can look up Train rates and schedules also. = HDKnight >> 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV - >>=20 >> >Ken, >> > >> >What do you think of my bus idea? Might be worth a case of the >> >flu! :-) >> > >> >Anita >>=20 > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:37:29 1998 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov ([199.128.203.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23420 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:37:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by DCHQEXS1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:36:17 -0500 Message-ID: <43CE126D7B6AD111A5910000F80154B5011D36AA@DCHQEXS1> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Rain & Helmets Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:36:10 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain I'm a newbie to this list and had planned to lurk for a week or so before posting but the Lemon Pledge post nooged me to this. 1) Rain-X is supposed to be a no-no for some plastics but I haven't noticed any problem on my Shoei shields. I read once that you can tell Rain-X ed fairing shields form untreated ones by hitting them with a sledge hammer. Treated shield shattered, untreated one bounced the hammer back YMMV. 2) However, I found that Novus plastic polish does an equally great job. The rain sheets off the face shield same as Rain-X. Read Plastics (Rockville) sells it, IRRC $1.85 for handy 2 oz bottle. $3.95 for bigger bottle with spray thingy. 3) Fog-X works for me but you have to replenish it weekly. RE: buying a helmet: Do be willing to pay more for comfort because you'll save money in the long run. You'll likely be wearing that helmet for hours at a time in the near future and the bucks you saved will be a pittance after you dump the noisy, heavy, uncomfortable, cheap bucket for a decent helmet. The Dirt Shop (On west side of Route 1, about 1/2 mile south of the beltway) is good. Jerry, publisher of the great freebie mag, used to own it. Cycle Accessory Discounters (Gaithersburg, MD) let me test ride helmets. (Another excellent reason to buy locally) Also, many local shops will consider the posted price "a starting place" if you offer less. Cash in hand helps but isn't always necessary. "It is funny to see how motorcycle parking has become much more available this week..." - Jeannette Yep, there's 4 on K street this morning where there used to be 10. Carl S. Custer Bethesda, MD carl.custer@XXXXXX (simpler than the mess above and they let me play during lunch - munch, munch) '85 VF700S '80 GS450E AMA 676120 Commuting into your nation's capitol since 1981 through rain, sun, and snow, but no ice! "Loud shirts save lives." From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:42:43 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23509 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:42:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105184420.25357.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:44:20 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:44:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. To: Ken , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does this price for the bus include fuel, driver, tolls, and parking? ---Ken wrote: > > Yeah that would be good, Very good in fact.... Would be fun. I guess I would be willing to share in the driving also.... > HDKnight > 1996 XLH 1200 > Ride Safe > Inwood, WV > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> > To: Ken > Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 1:11 PM > Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. > > > >I sent a message to the list, but maybe it hasn't got to you yet. It's > >$960.00 for a 47 passenger bus. If we can get 32 people, it'd be > >$30 a head. Pretty good, I think. > > > >Anita > > > >On 5 Nov 98, at 13:03, Ken wrote: > > > >> Hey Anita, that does not sound like a bad idea, Do you know how much a > >> charter bus runs?, I can look up Train rates and schedules also. HDKnight > >> 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV - > >> > >> >Ken, > >> > > >> >What do you think of my bus idea? Might be worth a case of the > >> >flu! :-) > >> > > >> >Anita > >> > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:46:42 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23571 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:46:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A28D2060204; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:46:37 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105135117.00fa45e0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:52:24 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Flip-up Chin Bars Was: Rider Killers In-Reply-To: <000c01be08c8$22e0ecc0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> References: <3640B5F9.B7C42388@illuminet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:25 AM 11/5/98 , Todd Peer wrote: >Can anyone explain this? I know that some 3/4 face helmets DO receive a >Snell approval. The Shoei Duotec is simply a 3/4 face helmet with a flip up >chin bar. Does Snell have some silly rule whereby if a helmet HAS a chin >bar, it will be tested? Are the approval ratings different for different >style helmets? One of the guys on a BMW list posted a response from Snell that said no one had submitted a flip-front helmet to them to test. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:47:58 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23581 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:47:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105184936.28862.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:49:36 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Any BSA streetbike riders on the list? Especially any version of the A65. My friend with the A65T is looking for parts and opinions. I'm looking for other Triumph (Meridean) riders out there (nothing against the Hinckleys) to get together for rides, talk, etc. Bonus: I have a complete set of Whitworth sockets and spanners. Ray _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:49:02 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23595 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:49:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02672 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29257 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA05746; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:48:43 -0500 Message-ID: <3641F267.9831ECFB@illuminet.net> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:45:59 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Anyone riding? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <877d3965.3641eaf4@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > > temps don't get too low until there's ice on the road! C'MON guys! ;D > > -Marcy I nominate Marcy for governor. Here's why. If Marcy were governor, she'd have more snow and ice removal equipment out on the roads. If the ice is kept off the road, then the temps will stay up. If the temperature stays up, we can still ride. -- Leon - I'll be riding in snow sometime in the next week. Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:54:29 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23692 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:54:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12344; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:54:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051854.NAA12344@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Ray , dc-cycles Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:53:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19981105184420.25357.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 10:44, Ray wrote: > Does this price for the bus include fuel, driver, tolls, and parking? I was told that the $960.00 includes everything bus related (i.e. not admission to the show itself). I was also told that picking up as early as 7 am and returning after midnight would not be a problem. I would, of course, get a contract, references, etc. before collecting $$ and chartering a bus. I did not ask about the "in season" rate, but I got the distinct impression that charter buses are not in high demand in January. I guess if the buses are just sitting there, some $$ is better than no $$. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:59:51 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23824 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA02907 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (known usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA29655 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from usdotmh-gw.dot.gov by usdotmh.dot.gov (X.400 to RFC822 Gateway); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:22 -0500 X400-Received: by mta usdotMTA in /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 05 Nov 1998 13:59:19 -0500 X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; Relayed; 05 Nov 1998 13:59:19 -0500 X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=ATTMAIL/prmd=gov+dot/; 06E9D3641F587010-usdotMTA] Content-Identifier: 06E9D3641F587010 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Priority: normal Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; <06E9D3641F587010*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Date: 05 Nov 1998 13:59:19 -0500 From: "Burger, Donald " To: "LungHD@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: local elections Message-Id: <06E9D3641F587010*/c=US/admd=ATTmail/prmd=gov+dot/o=RSPA/s=Burger/g=Donald/@MHS> Why not? He couldn't be any worse than Ronnie Ray Gun. >Jessie "The Body" Ventura for President! From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 13:59:53 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23826 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA12881; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:59:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051859.NAA12881@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Custer, Carl" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:58:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Rain & Helmets Priority: normal In-reply-to: <43CE126D7B6AD111A5910000F80154B5011D36AA@DCHQEXS1> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 Nov 98, at 13:36, Custer, Carl wrote: > RE: buying a helmet: Do be willing to pay more for comfort because > you'll save money in the long run. You'll likely be wearing that helmet > for hours at a time in the near future and the bucks you saved will be a > pittance after you dump the noisy, heavy, uncomfortable, cheap bucket for > a decent helmet. I agree. I am *extremely* satisfied with my RF800 that I paid ~$280 for back in August. It is much lighter and quieter than my old RF200 (which was not a "cheap" helmet), and that really makes a difference on those all day rides! Anita (not getting much work done today!) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:16:39 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24098 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:16:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA14522 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:16:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199811051916.OAA14522@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:15:35 -0500 Subject: (Fwd) Re: Proposed Trip to NYC Int'l Moto Show Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) I'm having one of those days... helps if I actually POST the message to dc-cycles, and not just reply to myself. Ugh! Don't worry, I can organize a bus trip, honest! :-) Anita ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> Date sent: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:46:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Proposed Trip to NYC Int'l Moto Show Priority: normal Interesting bit of information... I called a bus company and found out that chartering a bus might not be a bad idea! January is not a busy month, so they discount the rates. For a 47-passenger bus, it is $960.00 inclusive from Washington DC to NYC and back. If we had 24 people, it'd be $40/person. It'd drop to $32 for 30 people, and $21 for a full bus. Now, I don't know how many people would actually be interested in doing this, but we could publish it outside of the dc-cycles as well. I wouldn't mind being the organizer, but I'd like to get an idea of how many people would be "seriously" interested. Obviously, this would be one occasion where a lot of "no shows" would be a bad thing! If you are interested, drop me a line and let me know what the maximum you'd pay for the trip (between $21 and $40). And, if we go the bus route, wives, SO's, neighbors, etc. would be welcome. This might actually be fun! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:20:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24195 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:20:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03330 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:20:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (known send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA00913 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:20:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105192149.18895.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:21:49 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:21:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Everybody sing along: "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... he's the head of the ku klux klan When summer comes rolling around we'll be lucky to get out of town." The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of history. Ray (seven years old in August '69) ---"Burger, Donald " wrote: > > > > >Jessie "The Body" Ventura for President! > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:21:49 1998 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24215 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA14270; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:19:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105191929.UUDK649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:19:29 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, , Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:17:47 -0500 Message-ID: <002201be08f0$f937a7a0$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199811051540.KAA25843@radagast.wizard.net> Importance: Normal I think they are completely different shows. > > On 5 Nov 98, at 10:17, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > > > I'd be interested in going to the NY show also, depending on cost. > > > > What, no Baltimore show this year? I thought they did one there last > > Jan/Feb. > > I've been to the Baltimore show... while I did find it interesting to > look at all the decked out custom bikes, it was VERY light on new > bikes, and riding apparel and accessories. I probably wouldn't > bother going again. I understand that the NY show is much better. > > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:36:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24437 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03579 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:36:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.eainet.com (known oak.eainet.com [206.136.246.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02593 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:36:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak (oak [206.136.246.2]) by oak.eainet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA25083; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:35:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:35:37 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler X-Sender: ph@oak To: Ray cc: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections In-Reply-To: <19981105192149.18895.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Heh heh. I remember that song. http://olga.skynet.be/olga/main/b/baez_joan/drug_store_truck_drivin_man.crd -ph On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > he's the head of the ku klux klan > When summer comes rolling around > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > history. > Ray (seven years old in August '69) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:39:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24469 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:39:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03604 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:39:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (known cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02709 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:39:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02793; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:40:29 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA132@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Ray'" , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:40:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain tweren't even a glimmer in me momma's eye.... he he he... I guess "old fart" is a requirement to be a chief :) just kiddin Ray... > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:31 PM > To: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: local elections > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > that's from, > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:40:13 1998 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24482 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:40:08 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id OAA15360; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:41:48 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma014879; Thu, 5 Nov 98 14:40:28 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y00DG8RXGE2@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:39:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.006B9CA3 ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:35:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:36:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. To: Ken Cc: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles Message-id: <852566B3.006B94F7.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Two things ... 1) does the $960/32 = $30 include gas? 2) do you need a CDL (or other variant) to drive a 47 passenger bus? Interested, --chris To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> cc: dc-cycles From: Ken Date: 11/05/98 06:29:14 PM GMT Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Yeah that would be good, Very good in fact.... Would be fun. I guess I would be willing to share in the driving also.... HDKnight 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV -----Original Message----- From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Ken Date: Thursday, November 05, 1998 1:11 PM Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. >I sent a message to the list, but maybe it hasn't got to you yet. It's >$960.00 for a 47 passenger bus. If we can get 32 people, it'd be >$30 a head. Pretty good, I think. > >Anita > >On 5 Nov 98, at 13:03, Ken wrote: > >> Hey Anita, that does not sound like a bad idea, Do you know how much a >> charter bus runs?, I can look up Train rates and schedules also. HDKnight >> 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV - >> >> >Ken, >> > >> >What do you think of my bus idea? Might be worth a case of the >> >flu! :-) >> > >> >Anita >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:47:52 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24619 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:47:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03709 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:47:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (known send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02890 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:47:46 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105194908.7276.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:49:08 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:49:08 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: Peter Hartzler Cc: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dedicated at Woodstock to Ronald Ray-Gun, then governor of Californy. And who was the other President sung about there? ---Peter Hartzler wrote: > > Heh heh. I remember that song. > > http://olga.skynet.be/olga/main/b/baez_joan/drug_store_truck_drivin_man.crd > > -ph > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > When summer comes rolling around > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > > history. > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:48:32 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24630 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03715 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com (known piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02913 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id A0FF1880212; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:48:15 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105145255.00faa690@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:54:07 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: local elections In-Reply-To: <19981105192149.18895.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:21 PM 11/5/98 , Ray wrote: >The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what >that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of >history. >Ray (seven years old in August '69) "we're goin' down to Yasgur's farm, gonna plaaaaaay in a rock 'n' roll baaaaaand." Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:49:36 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24649 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03747 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:49:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (known send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA02958 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:49:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105195049.8687.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:50:49 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's Chief with a capital C. Hopefully soon to be Retired with a capital R. ---"Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: > > tweren't even a glimmer in me momma's eye.... he he he... > I guess "old fart" is a requirement to be a chief :) just kiddin Ray... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:31 PM > > To: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: local elections > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:51:17 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24731 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:51:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03773 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:51:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03262 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:51:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA21134; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:49:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105194945.VIDL649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:49:45 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Leon Begeman" , Cc: Subject: RE: Anyone riding? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:48:03 -0500 Message-ID: <002301be08f5$333e8e60$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3641F267.9831ECFB@illuminet.net> Importance: Normal JinnSinn "the Body" Marcy....WoooHooo! You got my vote baby ;) Leon Begeman wrote: > JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > temps don't get too low until there's ice on the road! C'MON guys! ;D > > > > -Marcy > > I nominate Marcy for governor. > > Here's why. > If Marcy were governor, she'd have more snow and ice removal equipment > out on the roads. > If the ice is kept off the road, then the temps will stay up. > If the temperature stays up, we can still ride. > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:54:27 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24744 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:54:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03802 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:54:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from send201.yahoomail.com (known send201.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.131]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03490 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:54:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105195542.11467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send201.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:55:42 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:55:42 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---"Fagan, Collin LTJG" wrote: > > tweren't even a glimmer in me momma's eye.... he he he... Too bad, you missed out on most of the good music. > I guess "old fart" is a requirement to be a chief :) just kiddin Ray... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ray [SMTP:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 2:31 PM > > To: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: RE: local elections > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:58:30 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24831 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:58:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from ringding.cs.umd.edu (known ringding.cs.umd.edu [128.8.126.2]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA03827 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (known omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by ringding.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA14663 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA12814; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:57:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105195659.VLHT649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:56:59 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , , , Subject: RE: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:55:17 -0500 Message-ID: <002401be08f6$361b7a20$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981105192149.18895.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. Must be a southern Thang! Todd Ray L. wrote: > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > he's the head of the ku klux klan > When summer comes rolling around > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > history. > Ray (seven years old in August '69) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 14:58:58 1998 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from send202.yahoomail.com (send202.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.132]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24841 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:58:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105200030.13758.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send202.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:00:30 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:00:30 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: Looking for Dutch translator! To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone read and write Dutch, or have contact with any Netherlands embassy or consulate employees? I need some translating done. Ray _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:01:41 1998 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA24885 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:01:39 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id MAA25355 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:01:21 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:01:21 -0800 Message-Id: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF553455@sw730x023.visa.com> From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DCCycles List Subject: RE: Any Triumph or BSA streetbike riders out there? Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:01:32 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Any BSA streetbike riders on the list? Especially any version of the > A65. My friend with the A65T is looking for parts and opinions. I used to have a '66 Lightning back in '68 - no parts left, but still have plenty of opinions... > I'm looking for other Triumph (Meridean) riders out there (nothing > against the Hinckleys) to get together for rides, talk, etc. Ran with a fellow on a late model Triumph (license plate: MERIDN) Monday night going home on Route 28 in Sterling - anybody know who this is?? > I have a complete set of Whitworth sockets and spanners. I'm not sure if this is an asset or not ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:03:23 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24895 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:03:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03915 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from send203.yahoomail.com (known send203.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.155]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03726 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:02:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19981105200416.17616.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by send203.yahoomail.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:04:16 PST Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:04:16 -0800 (PST) From: Ray Subject: RE: local elections To: Todd Peer , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Joan Baez dedicated the song "Drug Store Truck Drivin Man" to Ronald Ray-Gun (her pronunciation) at Woodstock in August 1969 which was held on Max Yasgurs farm in upstate New York miles and miles from Woodstock. Are you some kind of pinko commie that doesn't know about Woodstock? Everybody knows about Woodstock! Ray ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. Must > be a southern Thang! > > Todd > > Ray L. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > When summer comes rolling around > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > > history. > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:05:36 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA24973 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:05:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc2-s21.wizard.net (tc2-s21.wizard.net [206.161.15.97]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA19294; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:05:26 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:11:31 -0500 Message-ID: <36500594.329859530@smtp.wizard.net> References: <852566B3.006B94F7.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> In-Reply-To: <852566B3.006B94F7.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:36:04 -0500, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >1) does the $960/32 =3D $30 include gas? >2) do you need a CDL (or other variant) to drive a 47 passenger bus? The $960.00 includes *everything* -- bus, DRIVER, tolls, gas, parking, etc. Sorry to be so confusing about this... it's been one of those days. The bus would be a "motor coach" with bathroom, VCR and TV, card tables, a/c (need that in January!), etc. Anita (15 passenger van maybe, 47 passenger bus? No way!) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:10:46 1998 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25015 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:10:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA16521 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:10:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:08:56 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: local elections In-Reply-To: <19981105195542.11467.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ray wrote: > > tweren't even a glimmer in me momma's eye.... he he he... > > Too bad, you missed out on most of the good music. Hmmm, so did you (Coltrane was at his best, IMHO, in the late 50s). It seems that the latest subscribers to dc-cycles are quite prolific with the messages. Not a real complaint for me but I do anticipate the complaints/unsubscribes for so many off topic posts... Kirk, born in 69 but that's what CDs are for From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:11:30 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25035 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:11:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from tc2-s21.wizard.net (tc2-s21.wizard.net [206.161.15.97]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA19949 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:11:37 -0500 From: 2xracers@XXXXXX (Anita Lauro) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: NYC Moto Show 1/15-1/17/99 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:17:41 -0500 Message-ID: <36510797.330374195@smtp.wizard.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a website for the Cycle World International Motorcycle Shows, including the NYC one: www.motorcycleshows.com Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:17:41 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25171 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:17:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05493; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:18:39 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA139@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'Anita Lauro'" <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:18:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Driving something like that would be fun.... Besidess, you have the law of gross tonnages on your side!! I'm sure it would require a CDL to drive it though. Whenever you take pax for hire, you need a CDL I believe (least you did where I grew up) > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [SMTP:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:15 PM > To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX > Cc: dc-cycles > Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. > > Anita > (15 passenger van maybe, 47 passenger bus? No way!) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:23:04 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25248 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:23:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04147 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA04394 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:22:57 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id OTUJa13873; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:21:43 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <6c1331f8.364208d7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:21:43 EST To: shephar1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 In a message dated 98-11-05 13:33:36 EST, you write: snip << Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. >> unsnip Geez! Sorry to hear that your local HD dealer hasn't been arrested for robbery. I'd definitely take my business to another HD dealer! (AND let dealer #1 know about it after you pick up your new bike.) I picked up my FLSTF (after a 3 yr. wait) with no premium for the -"priviledge"- of waiting! :-( Seems our local dealer knows that a happy customer is also one who will return to buy all those accessories & for service. Why screw people & lose customers?! I guess they figure if they get 5,000 people one time that's an extra $100,000 profit. Sounds like he used to be a used car salesman. Hang in there & go elsewhere. Lung From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:41:40 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25647 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:41:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id PAA02145; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:40:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052040.PAA02145@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: , "Marvin Heilesen" Cc: Subject: Re: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:39:55 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE08D2.89497680" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE08D2.89497680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I do not believe the media can be that organized. You are giving them waaay > too much credit. Also aAre you aware that there is "right-winged" media > out there? Ever heard of the American Spectator, a fat guy named Limbaugh, > the Christian Science Monitor, Washington Times ... etc. etc. etc. Back in the days of BBS's, I ran a WWIV board (I still do, sort of...). The one sub I hosted over the networks was "A Million Ways To Kill Rush Limbaugh". Yes, just as the name implies, the discussion was ways of killing old lard ass. So, I do not just follow strait party lines. But in this, as with any discussion, someone will twist my words around to mean whatever they want. What I know is that all the democrats I have seen have royally screwed things up (although I did make a shit load of money when Jimmy brought the interest rate up to 22%). The republican have done a better job. The biggest problem is that most of the politicians are lawyers. In other words, our government is run by crooks. If any of you out there are Lawyers, I am sorry, but you are guilty until proven otherwise (sort of like bikers). My father is a lawyer, so I do not have a high opinion of lawyers. Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE08D2.89497680 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I do not believe the media can be = that organized. You are giving them waaay
> too much credit. =  Also aAre you aware that there is "right-winged" = media
> out there?  Ever heard of the American Spectator, a = fat guy named Limbaugh,
> the Christian Science Monitor, = Washington Times ... etc. etc. etc.

Back = in the days of BBS's, I ran a WWIV board (I still do, sort of...). =  The one
sub I hosted over the networks was "A Million = Ways To Kill Rush Limbaugh".
Yes, just as the name implies, the = discussion was ways of killing old lard ass.
So, I do not just follow = strait party lines.

But in this, as with any discussion, someone = will twist my words around to
mean whatever they want.

What I = know is that all the democrats I have seen have royally screwed =
things up (although I did make a shit load of money when Jimmy = brought
the interest rate up to 22%).  The republican have done = a better job.  The
biggest problem is that most of the = politicians are lawyers.  In other words,
our government is run = by crooks.

If any of you out there are Lawyers, I am sorry, but = you are guilty until
proven otherwise (sort of like bikers). =  My father is a lawyer, so I do not
have a high opinion of = lawyers.

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE08D2.89497680-- From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 15:43:08 1998 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25723 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:43:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.06) id ADD2790250; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:42:58 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19981105154716.00fabd20@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:47:46 -0500 To: Ray , DCCycles List From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Looking for Dutch translator! In-Reply-To: <19981105200030.13758.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:00 PM 11/5/98 , Ray wrote: >Anyone read and write Dutch, or have contact with any Netherlands >embassy or consulate employees? I need some translating done. >Ray you might try babelfish.altavista.digital.com Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 16:23:03 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26424 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:23:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05184 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com (known ndcrelay.mcit.com [166.37.172.49]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA06616 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA02149; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from todd.mcit.com ([166.41.242.141]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19981105212203.WWNJ649@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:22:03 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Ray" , , , Subject: RE: local elections Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:20:20 -0500 Message-ID: <002b01be0902$17cdcb20$8df229a6@todd.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19981105200416.17616.rocketmail@send203.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal Sure, I've heard of Woodstock, but I was a little young to understand or care about it. Isn't that where a bunch of drug adled hippies decided to stand around in mud and cow shit and play at a 'luv in'? Saw some film footage of it. Bunch of grinning, dirty, hairy hippies pretending they were making some sort of impact on American culture. Now they're ambulance chasers and businessmen/women. ;) Todd (pass the bong, and the LSD, and the daisies....whooooaa, ooooo the colors) > > Joan Baez dedicated the song "Drug Store Truck Drivin Man" to Ronald > Ray-Gun (her pronunciation) at Woodstock in August 1969 which was held > on Max Yasgurs farm in upstate New York miles and miles from > Woodstock. Are you some kind of pinko commie that doesn't know about > Woodstock? Everybody knows about Woodstock! > Ray > > > > > ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > > > > Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. > Must > > be a southern Thang! > > > > Todd > > > > Ray L. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > > When summer comes rolling around > > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece > of > > > history. > > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 16:43:16 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA26795 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:43:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA05499 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:43:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from oak.us.pw.com (known pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA07347 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:43:06 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA09752; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:44:20 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma009513; Thu, 5 Nov 98 16:43:33 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F1Y008GSXMWH3@XXXXXX>; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:42:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 852566B3.0076E66E ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:38:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:40:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... To: LungHD@XXXXXX Cc: shephar1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <852566B3.0076E95C.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that means that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't sell to you. Is that just a myth? --chris To: shephar1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: LungHD@XXXXXX Date: 11/05/98 08:21:43 PM GMT Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... In a message dated 98-11-05 13:33:36 EST, you write: snip << Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. >> unsnip Geez! Sorry to hear that your local HD dealer hasn't been arrested for robbery. I'd definitely take my business to another HD dealer! (AND let dealer #1 know about it after you pick up your new bike.) I picked up my FLSTF (after a 3 yr. wait) with no premium for the -"priviledge"- of waiting! :-( Seems our local dealer knows that a happy customer is also one who will return to buy all those accessories & for service. Why screw people & lose customers?! I guess they figure if they get 5,000 people one time that's an extra $100,000 profit. Sounds like he used to be a used car salesman. Hang in there & go elsewhere. Lung ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:06:10 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27207 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06136 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08307 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA22871; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:01 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052206.RAA22871@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:16:11 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <000801be08dd$7a515de0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Anyone riding? On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:58:11 -0500, Ken wrote: >Sorry LBB. Dont expect anything near 60 on Saturday. Weather willbe much >like today, its currently 37 degrees, and the high on saturday is the same >as todays at 45 degrees with a low of 26. Same again for Sunday, then a bit >warmer with rain forecast for Monday. Wah. Wah. Wah. I like the Heyser's motto: "Shut Up and Ride" Lee, you need to toughen up a little. :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:07:18 1998 Return-Path: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: from ams.amsinc.com (ams.amsinc.com [162.70.244.20]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27227 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:07:17 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas_Brashear@XXXXXX Received: from ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com (ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com [162.70.34.52]) by ams.amsinc.com (8.9.0.Beta5/8.9.0.Beta5) with SMTP id RAA22234 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:07:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 852566B3.00796723 ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:02 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <852566B3.0078A0FC.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:57:31 -0500 Subject: FYA: We all knew it was coming... (non-m/c) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Just a little something FYA, since we're so political on this newsgroup, heh heh heh ;-) ---------------------- Forwarded by Douglas Brashear/AMS/AMSINC on 11/05/98 04:48 PM --------------------------- -----Original Message----- We all knew this was coming. For those that don't understand, Jesse "The Body" Ventura was elected as Governor of the state of Minnesota. The Top 13 Changes Under a Government Run by Pro Wrestlers 13. Driving your fellow Congressman into the turnbuckle now considered acceptable method of ending a filibuster. 12. President now shouts entire State of the Union address with his face 18 inches from TV camera. 11. IRS audit replaced by more efficient reverse body slam onto enema. 10. Government becomes a charade of meaningless noises and lots of posturing by a bunch of inarticulate losers with no class or manners-Hey, wait a minute... 9. Free school lunches destined for the needy instead go to the biggest, meanest, stupidest kid in each school. 8. Sex scandals now involve even skankier women. 7. January 20: Inauguration ceremonies - January 21: FDA approves over-the-counter sale of steroids 6. Newt Gingrich is finally able to wear his mask and cape out of the house. 5. During House debate, it is acceptable to yield to the gentleman wielding a folding chair. 4. Difficult finding interns willing to accommodate an entire pouch of Skoal. 3. Strom Thurmond *finally* removed by The Undertaker. 2. Line to bodyslam Ken Starr winds around Lincoln Memorial. 1. Before: Mr. Vice President After: Stone Cold Al Gore From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:19:20 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27380 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:19:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06357 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:19:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA08973 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:18:59 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:18:49 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:17:36 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: LungHD@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, shephar1@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline That's a myth. A lot of the bigger dealers advertise in the back of Easyriders to sell bikes to anyone from anywhere. Joe >>> - 11/5/98 4:40 PM >>> Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that means that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't sell to you. Is that just a myth? --chris To: shephar1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: LungHD@XXXXXX Date: 11/05/98 08:21:43 PM GMT Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... In a message dated 98-11-05 13:33:36 EST, you write: snip << Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. >> unsnip Geez! Sorry to hear that your local HD dealer hasn't been arrested for robbery. I'd definitely take my business to another HD dealer! (AND let dealer #1 know about it after you pick up your new bike.) I picked up my FLSTF (after a 3 yr. wait) with no premium for the -"priviledge"- of waiting! :-( Seems our local dealer knows that a happy customer is also one who will return to buy all those accessories & for service. Why screw people & lose customers?! I guess they figure if they get 5,000 people one time that's an extra $100,000 profit. Sounds like he used to be a used car salesman. Hang in there & go elsewhere. Lung ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:35:52 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27702 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:35:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA09639; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:35:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052235.RAA09639@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Bikes R Us" , "christopher.meier@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "gixer@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:45:51 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <852566B3.005DC592.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:05:50 -0500, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >Also ... Kmart, Target, Sunny's Surplus, most hunting and fishing stores, >Modells, Sports Authority, probably REI, etc. >You all aren't having a tough time finding these are you? The original >post stated that they we not able to be found at PX/BXs, not that they >couldn't be found. When I was trying to get my old Suzuki inspected, I could not find my orange vest. My wife has a blue reflective vest (with more reflective stuff than my orange one), but the DoD reg states that it must be orange. I also applied reflective strips to my backpack. The old suzuki does not have saddlebags, etc, and I wear my backpack with it (right over the reflective vest). The backpack alone was not enough, but it was ok to cover up the vest..... I can never figure out military intelligence.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:47:13 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27823 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06695 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA09740 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16532; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052247.RAA16532@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "NJitzul@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:36:11 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Sat. Ride... Meeting? On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:05 EST, NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: >Lee, about how long will it take to get from exit 32 to Hagerstown? If you >leave there at 9, whould you be there by 11? I was thinking that we could all >meet at Twigg Cycles off Rt 40. I can swing down to Leesburg to meet Hugh >around 9, ride to Urbana to meet Marvin around 10 and take 40 W ALT to >Hagerstown with plenty of time for refueling and such. > >Hugh, where's a good place to meet off of Rt 7 or 15 in Leesburg? > >Marvin, how about we meet at the Firestation in Urbana? So tenish. That means I can sleep in, and then leave at about 0930. I'm in Wheaton, and it should take me about 20 or so minutes to ride out to Urbana, and 5 or so minutes to find the fire station. Is it on 355? I'll be riding in by way of 80 (unless you know a more convenient place for you). Snake ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:47:18 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27826 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA16579; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:47:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052247.RAA16579@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "christopher.meier@XXXXXX" , "Ray" Cc: "DCCycles List" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:55:32 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19981105171154.24587.rocketmail@send201.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: DC Traffic blocked by jumper On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:11:54 -0800 (PST), Ray wrote: >It's probably faster by bike, but not by Ford supercab longbed pickup, >especially when the street sign I was looking for was missing. You should try it in a F-350 crew cab 4x4. That's why I tend to only take the bikes into the city. Besides, have you ever tried to parallel park a truck with a 168 inch (Collin that's 4.27 meters; and the rest of you, that's 14 feet) wheelbase. Not to mention the fact that a 1-ton 4x4 will beat the hell out of you on a rough city road. I'll stick to the bikes in town. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 17:54:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27950 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA06826 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:54:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA09924 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:54:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA20126; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:54:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052254.RAA20126@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Dave Wakefield" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:04:25 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <19981105181935.12741.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:19:35 -0800 (PST), Dave Wakefield wrote: >I'm writing to say that I got ERC instructor- >certified through MD's motorcycle safety program >last weekend in Glen Burnie, and I'd like to drop >by Saturday to help or simply watch the veteran >instructors teach the course. Ok, I'll show my ignorance (I am from Idaho, it is allowed). What is ERC???? My guess it is an "Experienced Rider's Course". Am I right? Do I need to take a basic course first? Idaho kind of treats these things like the cages.... If you have the balls to try and drive it, all you need is a driver's license (actually, Idaho has become the 50th state to have a motorcycle license this year). I love the sign "Welcome to Idaho: Set Your Clocks Back 30 Years" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 18:02:50 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA28089 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:02:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com (207-172-39-79.s79.tnt10.ann.erols.com [207.172.39.79]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA24310; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:02:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811052302.SAA24310@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles" , "Ken" Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:12:52 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <013b01be08e9$9ba904a0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:25:01 -0500, Ken wrote: > Personaly I am glad the Yamaha clones are out there, as well as all the >others. I really hope Polaris and Triumpg, and Guzzi starrt taking bites >out of the market. Despite all this talk about How HD has increased there >production, my local HD dealer is still charging a $1500.00 premium on >Sportsters and $2000.00 on BT's. But, with the new motor HD has finally entered the 20th century! I'll stick with my ACE. When I was in HS the harleys were the biggest pieces of shit (can you say AMF) on the road. I am still biased against them. What I would like is a '40's Indian Scout or Chief. I know, I am dreaming. The new KZ is styled after the Indian with its full fenders. Some of the prototypes have been BEAUTIFUL (the Cobra one gives me a hard on). The one in my latest Motorcyclist mag has an ugly seat, but to their credit, it states that there will be changes, especially in the seat. I love the looks of the ACE, but now I have a regret that I should have waited. Now, if I could only convince my wife that I need three motorcycles......... Maybe I could give the ACE to her..... :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 18:20:40 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA28427 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:20:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA07279 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:20:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (known imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA10575 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:20:34 -0500 (EST) From: LungHD@XXXXXX Received: from LungHD@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 0Ba0002328; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:18:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <14257570.3642325f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:18:55 EST To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 << Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that means that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't sell to you. Is that just a myth?>> Don't know for sure about that. Heard that story about someone else who wanted to make a cash buy of a Road King. What I do know is that the world's largest HD dealership in Texas offers a Fly & Ride program & will sell to anyone & finances as well. Barnet?/Bartell? HD I think. I'll check & get back to ya on the name. I know they do have a website. Lung From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 18:46:04 1998 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA28759 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:45:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (207-172-118-58.s58.tnt13.brd.erols.com [207.172.118.58]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA07212 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:45:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002a01be091e$c25e9580$3a76accf@default> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: poss missing bike... Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:45:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Hey folks, I just left the DMV....and passed a black sport (poss VFR or FZR) going other direction......the reason I think it might be stolen is the guy was flying and wearing a t-shirt and jeans....oh yeah black helmet too.....Hopefully its just some guy from Wisconsin or somewhere really cold and he is really tough.....He was headed west on Columbia Pike a lil after 5 o'clock.....Les Kat 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 20:30:26 1998 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA00467 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:30:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from LJTanner (207-172-70-118.s118.tnt11.brd.erols.com [207.172.70.118]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA13226 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:30:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Linda Tanner" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Law Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: <002501be0925$093598e0$b634accf@LJTanner.arl.mci.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981105101536.00fd4c40@mail.toward.com> Importance: Normal In England, everything is permitted except that which is expressly forbidden. In Germany, everything is forbidden except that which is expressly permitted. In Russia, everything is forbidden including that which is expressly permitted. In France, everything is permitted including that which is expressly forbidden. In the US, everything is permitted except that which endangers national security. Keep smiling. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (52K miles and counting) From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 21:07:55 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm01sm.pmm.cw.net (pm01sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00966 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:07:53 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr42-dialup56.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.77.120]) by PM01SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33505) with SMTP id <0F1Z00HGV9VS02@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 02:07:09 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:09:15 -0500 Subject: Re: The estimate is in . . . part one To: DC Cycles Message-id: <020b01be092a$76c745c0$444c37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Seesh, I'm glad I have a shop that's competent, quick and friendly.. > >Brian Exactly why I like to do all my own wrenching, well, being a mechanic kinda makes it easier............. Jon From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 21:22:26 1998 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01187 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:22:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.37]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.6) with SMTP id ; Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:09:19 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: International Motorcycle Show Schedule - LAST YEARS IMPRESSIONS Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:13:27 -0500 Message-ID: <004a01be092b$0a220d00$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <199811051652.LAA21651@meretrix.com> Angie says we have to visit family. There's nothing to do at their house. Kill two birds with one stone:) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX > Kirk, Colleen and I went last year.. I must say, it was - well.. > it was ok. > Something worth doing maybe once every 4~5 years. Mostly, it was > something > to do with one day of a weekend. Yea, it was nice walking around > and seeing > the new bikes, but it wasn't any kind of a big deal. > > I really hope people enjoy the show.. but it just wasn't > interesting enough > to warrent a trip into that city (or any city) to see again.. > (yea, I got to > see the new R1 last year.. and the Polaris.. but, again.. whoopee). > > Brian > From dc-cycles-request Thu Nov 5 21:58:08 1998 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm02sm.pmm.cw.net (pm02sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.126.151]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA01687 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:58:06 -0500 (EST) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from default (usr25-dialup50.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.55.73.50]) by PM02SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #33506) with SMTP id <0F1Z00KPGC7PAR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 02:57:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:59:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Inter Moto Show NY -heheh To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <026301be0931$80fc04c0$444c37a6@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: >> Ill go up there! Its a success as long as I get to see the Suz GSX1300R. Oh >> man, Id kill for one of them things. Colemans has already sold 4 of em and >> they arent even available until April! > >...pan to Kirk jumping to safety (flamesuit at the cleaners)... > Your jumping..........I'm running and I don't use a flamesuit, I just stop, drop and roll...hehe Jon"some people scare me" From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 00:28:33 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03651 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:28:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12033 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:28:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA17642 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:28:28 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6XOVa03290; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:27:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3ba9c509.364288bc@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:27:24 EST To: tl1000s@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TRADE OF THE CENTURY... cant beat this deal. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Willing to Trade - 1993 Honda Nighthawk 750 for a Dunlop D207 190/50zr17 or a 180/55zr17 (mounting and balancing would be nice ;). Anyway, before anyone asks what am I thinking, or whats wrong with the bike... not a whole lot. i just got a flat for the third time on my bike after its been in the shop for a month., on the way home from work, tire goes down, bike feels incredibly loose while on a bridge, pull over, goes flat, push for 2 miles, get ride....etc...etc... Now I dont have much loot to buy and wait for a tire, and this nighthawk has been sitting outback of my moms house under a cover for almost a year. so, if anyone needs abike and has this tire.. lemme know. PLEASE!!!! Sean "Going a little nutz after all these years".... 98 Suzuki TLmoneypitR From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 00:29:27 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA03654 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:29:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA13948; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:25:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:03:35 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <013b01be08e9$9ba904a0$3fbd20cc@oemcomputer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ken wrote: > that. Its time these dealers started acting like salespeople attempting to > provide a service. The closest I have come to a Harley dealer that > actuallywas trying to sell bikes was a Buell dealer and I am at the point > that if I decide to trade my bike in eventually, it will definitely be for a > Buell, noy a HD. They at least act like they are interested in trying to > sell you a bike. Buell dealers have to kiss ass to sell bikes.Name another brand where you can find their flagship sportbike sitting on the floor for $2.5k under MSRP...the Fall before the model year? Personally,I have no regrets paying a $1.4k premium on my Dyna.At least now I own a motorcycle and not a joke. > Fo now unless things improve though, I expect to buy a > Kawasaki to supplement the Sportster, instead of a second Sportster, before > going and trading the Sportster in for a Buell. Ken,Ken,Ken.Stay off the Buells man!You and everyone else looking at those clockwork horrors.If you want to blow a bunch of money on self- abuse,hook up with a dominatrix. > And the main factor in this > decision is the lousy salesmanship at the local HD dealers. Harley dealers aren't the only ones.A certain place in Falls Church comes to mind.After the experiences my Dad had with the dealer in Waldorf,he gives all his business to his old dealer back in PA(Dad lives in St Mary's County). The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 00:34:36 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA03713 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:34:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA12087 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (known imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id AAA17714 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:34:31 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 6SSBa19214; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:33:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8175255.36428a17@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 00:33:11 EST To: tl1000s@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: TRADE DEAL..... Location Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Its in Arnold MD, USA. Just outside of annapolis off of Ritchie Hwy(Rt.2north). My number is 410-757-5984, or 410-216-8428. Sean... From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 04:48:48 1998 Return-Path: gnissley@XXXXXX Received: from pafosu1.hq.af.mil (pafosu1.hq.af.mil [134.205.92.52]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA08319 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:48:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gnissley@localhost) by pafosu1.hq.af.mil (8.6.12/8.6.12) id EAA15613; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:45:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:40:21 +45722824 (EDT) From: "Gil M. Nissley" Sender: "Gil M. Nissley" Reply-To: "Gil M. Nissley" Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > >>> - 11/5/98 4:40 PM >>> > Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that > means > that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't > sell > to you. > Is that just a myth? On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, JOE NAGY wrote: > That's a myth. A lot of the bigger dealers advertise in the back of > Easyriders to sell bikes to anyone from anywhere. It's real.I looked into trading the Fat Boy in on a Dyna at the dealer that presented it to me.They wouldn't go for it because I wasn't in their area(but they accepted $1k from Visa to present me with it).They said that every time they sell outside their area,they get one less bike alotted to them the next year. Some dealers will sell outside their area,but they charge extra to make up for it.They lose bikes,but because orders and production go up,they can afford it.I've also heard of dealers that have you set up a mailbox at the local Post Office so you'll qualify. The official BuellBoy Genes model. gnissley@XXXXXX GATB#1121 HSB#38D <*> '98 FXDS-Conv From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 05:20:37 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA08774 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:20:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA15002 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:20:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (known smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id FAA20565 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:20:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from 207-172-111-233.s233.tnt1.ann.erols.com (207-172-111-233.s233.tnt1.ann.erols.com [207.172.111.233]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA22269; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:20:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061020.FAA22269@smtp1.erols.com> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "Ray" Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 05:30:41 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: (Demonstration) PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: local elections > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > history. > Ray (seven years old in August '69) You're Old!!!!!! :) I was only six years old in August '69. Snake ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 06:43:39 1998 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA09790 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:43:37 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id 3DYQa04134 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:42:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8c17799f.3642e0b8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:42:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: **SATURDAY RIDE** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 224 If you're an AOL subscriber, this will look OK, if not, you may have lots of code. The "Arch Run" out of Hagerstown, MD Hookup: 10:00 a.m. Firehouse off 355 (Urbana) (for directions contact NJITZUL, Rob) Hookup: 11:00 a.m. Twigg's Cycle, Rt. 40 (Hagerstown) Captain Rob (NJITZUL) will be leading. Please confirm your arrival with NJITZUL so he knows to wait for you! It's going to be nippy, so dress warmly!! Look forward to meeting you all! Ride Safely, Lee From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 07:36:18 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10487 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:36:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061236.HAA10487@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:36:13 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: **SATURDAY RIDE** Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:33:25 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) I need to be HOME by 5pm.. so hopefully this ride is on a shorter order.. or perhaps we can bump back the times a little bit (I 'sleep in' till 7am on weekends.. what happens when you get up at 5am every weekday). Any clue/idea? Oh, and Snake.. I'm sure we'll be seeing each other in Urbana.. I'm on a blue 87 VFR sportbike.. black full tankbra and upper fairing cover (also black). Oh.. Black Vanson jacket and Arai lid.. yea, I know..I'll look for the guy with the red face and 1/2 lid.. :P Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX [mailto:LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 6:43 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: **SATURDAY RIDE** > > > If you're an AOL subscriber, this will look OK, if not, you > may have lots of > code. > The "Arch Run" out of Hagerstown, MD > Hookup: 10:00 a.m. Firehouse off 355 (Urbana) > (for directions contact NJITZUL, Rob) > Hookup: 11:00 a.m. Twigg's Cycle, Rt. 40 (Hagerstown) > > Captain Rob (NJITZUL) will be leading. > Please confirm your arrival with NJITZUL so he knows to wait for you! > It's going to be nippy, so dress warmly!! > Look forward to meeting you all! > Ride Safely, Lee > From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 08:48:23 1998 Return-Path: robmoody@XXXXXX Received: from mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.36]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11428 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:48:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from wotan ([12.68.66.214]) by mtiwmhc01.worldnet.att.net (InterMail v03.02.03 118 118 102) with SMTP id <19981106134629.OFSJ16188@wotan> for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:29 +0000 From: "Robert L Moody" To: "MC DC Cycles Submit" Subject: Cold weather Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:46:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000501be098b$e90b7960$01010101@wotan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I wore an electric vest on a recent cold (40F) day and was fine. However, the vest has direct current flowing through it which creates a magnetic field which causes part of me to point north. From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 08:51:08 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11505 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:51:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Fagan, Collin LTJG'" , "'Marvin Heilesen'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:50:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't rub it in ... (:=DE Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Fagan, Collin LTJG [mailto:cfagan@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 9:34 AM To: 'Marvin Heilesen'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military Ahhhhh, and people make fun of the CG for being Department of Transportation!!!! he he he.... There are a few commands that try to = get you to wear a vest, but they are few and far between... You do have to have = an MSF card to get a sticker on the bike though. However, all you have to = do is flash a mil id and they'll let you on withou the sticker!! I just = had Pen go in and get the sticker for the gsxr (which never got mounted...) cause she had an MSF card...I've never taken it (oops, I wasn't = supposed to tell that)... The other good thing about being DOT, was when the budget stuff was all = in a turmoil and DOD folks weren't sure if they were going to be getting paychecks or not...Our budget was already approved..no worries about if = the checks would come.. > -----Original Message----- > From: Marvin Heilesen [SMTP:snake69@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 8:39 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Was insurance, no it's MSF cards and the military >=20 > > As far as I know,the only service that will do this is the = Navy.The > >Air Force only requires the disco vests on base. >=20 > It's a DoD policy. The only difference is the > enforcement. >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 08:52:19 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11517 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:52:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA16808 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:52:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA23234 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:52:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA03140; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:51:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3642FE33.56D34835@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:48:35 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marvin Heilesen CC: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199811052254.RAA20126@smtp1.erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you need the course for insurance purposes, check with your insurance company. As a beginner course instructor, I'd prefer that you go to the experienced rider course. People that already know how to ride intimidate some of the real beginners. -- Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. Marvin Heilesen wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:19:35 -0800 (PST), Dave Wakefield > wrote: > > >I'm writing to say that I got ERC instructor- > >certified through MD's motorcycle safety program > >last weekend in Glen Burnie, and I'd like to drop > >by Saturday to help or simply watch the veteran > >instructors teach the course. > > Ok, I'll show my ignorance (I am from Idaho, it is > allowed). What is ERC???? My guess it is an "Experienced > Rider's Course". Am I right? Do I need to take a basic > course first? > > Idaho kind of treats these things like the cages.... If you > have the balls to try and drive it, all you need is a > driver's license (actually, Idaho has become the 50th state > to have a motorcycle license this year). > > I love the sign "Welcome to Idaho: Set Your Clocks Back 30 > Years" > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Snake > aka Marvin Heilesen > Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 08:53:49 1998 Return-Path: jstpeter@XXXXXX Received: from server.va.chesapeake-systems.com (machine01.intelx.com [209.117.191.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11527 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: by machine01.intelx.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:51:58 -0500 Received: from th-2-4.patriot.net by server.va.chesapeake-systems.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id WJR0PMC0; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:26:10 -0500 Message-ID: <364249FC.B00AE460@intelx.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 19:59:40 -0500 From: "Jay St. Peter" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Music Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some of you obviously didn't grow up with real music ... That's right, long hair and spandex the '80s rule From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:04:33 1998 Return-Path: wes@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11643 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from pacman (sales-gw.corp.spg.erols.net [207.172.7.12]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA26548 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:05:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.1.19981106085820.00aa6470@pop.rcn.com> X-Sender: (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:04:49 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: wes Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... -Reply In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is another reason why I'm not interested in HD bikes. They attach so much garbage to the purchase process (premiums, waiting, "turf") that it's only worth it if you're a die-hard and you just gotta have an HD. The whole way Gil got his is pretty cool (the only thing I ever won was a t-shirt), with the trading-it-in for the bike he really wanted...I suppose if I had been in the same situation I'd have done the same thing... I'm not trying to start another "HDs suck because" or "HDs rule because" flame-fest. I've ridden 2 HDs and found them both to be competent bikes. Of course, it was kind of like other people's kids...maybe I liked them OK because I got to give them back... --w >They said that every time they sell outside their area,they >get one less bike alotted to them the next year. ...in accordance with prophecy... http://shadow.newspeak.org/ wes@XXXXXX '96 Shadow "Ghetto Sled" '78 CB750 "Extra Sled" What do you want? A political statement? From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:06:02 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11641 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:04:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061404.JAA11641@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:03:57 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Cold weather Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 05:56:02 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) I'm afraid to ask which part... > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert L Moody [mailto:robmoody@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 8:47 AM > To: MC DC Cycles Submit > Subject: Cold weather > > > I wore an electric vest on a recent cold (40F) day and was > fine. However, > the vest has direct current flowing through it which creates > a magnetic > field which causes part of me to point north. > > From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:07:01 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11731 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA16983 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23501 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: accident Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Bob Hill and his new wife, Betty, were vacationing in Europe, as = it > > >happens in Transylvania. They were driving a rental car along a > > >rather deserted highway. It was late, and raining very hard. Bob > > >could barely see 10 feet in front of the car. Suddenly the car = skids > > >out of control! Bob attempts to control the car, but to no avail! = > > >The car swerves and smashes into a tree. > > > > > > Moments later, Bob shakes his head to clear the fog. Dazed, he > > >looks over at the passenger seat and sees his new wife = unconscious, > > >with her head bleeding! Despite the rain and unfamiliar = countryside, > > >Bob knows he has to carry her to the nearest phone. Bob carefully > > >picks his wife up and begins trudging down the road. After a = short > > >while, he sees a light. He heads towards the light, which is = coming > > >from an old, large house. He approaches the door and knocks. A = minute > > >passes. A small, hunched man opens the door. Bob immediately = blurts, > > >"Hello, my name is Bob Hill, and this is my wife, Betty. We've = been > > >in a terrible accident, and my wife has been seriously hurt. Can = I > > >please use your phone??" "I'm sorry," replies the hunchback, "but = we > > >don't have a phone. My master is a doctor. Come in and I will get > > >him." Bob brings his wife in. An elegant man comes down the = stairs. > > >"I'm afraid my assistant may have misled you. I am not a medical > > >doctor. I am a scientist. However, it is many miles to the = nearest > > >clinic, and I have had basic medical training. I will see what I = can > > >do. Igor, bring them down to the laboratory." > > > > > > With that, Igor picks up Betty and carries her downstairs, with = Bob > > >following closely. Igor places Betty on a table in the lab. Bob > > >collapses from exhaustion and his own injuries; so Igor places Bob = on > > >an adjoining table. After a brief examination, Igor's master looks > > >worried. > > > > > > "Things are serious, Igor. Prepare a transfusion." Igor and = his > > >master work feverishly, but to no avail. Bob and Betty Hill are = no > > >more. The Hills' deaths upsets Igor's master greatly. Wearily, = he > > >climbs the steps to his conservatory, which houses his pipe organ. = > > >For it is here that he has always found solace. He begins to = play, > > >and a stirring, almost haunting melody fills the house. > > > > > > Meanwhile, Igor is still in the lab tidying up. As the music = fills > > >the lab, his eyes catch movement, and he notices the fingers on = Betty > > >Hill's hand twitch. Stunned, he watches as Bob's arm begins to = rise!=20 > > >He is further amazed as Betty sits straight up! Unable to contain > > >himself, > > >he dashes up the stairs to the conservatory. He bursts in and = shouts > > >to his master, > > >>=20 > > >> (Don't page down unless you have a strong stomach...) > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> You sure you want to know? > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> You really, really want to know? > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> OK, you asked for it!!!!!!!!! > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> keep going............... > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >>=20 > > >> "Master, Master!......The Hills are alive with the sound of = music!" Gotcha! :^=DE Mitch >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:22:06 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11929 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17152 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23846 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:00 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:21:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:21:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I don't write them..... > 1 . Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, but when they lit a fire > in the craft it sank-proving once and for all that you can't have your > kayak and heat it, too. > > 2. Two boll weevils grew up in South Carolina. One went to Hollywood and > became a famous actor. The other stayed behind in the cotton fields and > never amounted to much. The second one, naturally, became known as the > lesser of two weevils. > > 3. A three-legged dog walks into a saloon in the Old West. He sidles up > to the bar and announces: "I'm looking for the man who shot my paw." > > 4. This guy goes into a restaurant for a Christmas breakfast while in > his home town for the holidays. After looking over the menu he > says,"I'll just have the eggs Benedict." > > His order comes a while later and it's served on a big, shiny hubcap. > He asks the waiter, "What's with the hubcap?" > > The waiter says, "Well, there's no plate like chrome for the > hollandaise." > > 5. When she told me I was average, she was just being mean. > > 6. A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a > beer?" > > The bartender replies, "For you, no charge." > > 7. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused his dentist's Novocaine > during root canal work? He wanted to transcend dental medication. > > 8. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing > in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. > > After about an hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them > to disperse. > > "But why?" they asked, as they moved off. > > "Because," he said, "I can't stand chess nuts boasting in an open > foyer." > > 9. A doctor made it his regular habit to stop off at a bar for a > hazelnut daiquiri on his way home. The bartender knew of his habit, and > would always have the drink waiting at precisely 5:03 p.m. One > afternoon, as the end of he work day approached, the bartender was > dismayed to find that he was out of hazelnut extract. Thinking quickly, > he threw together a daiquiri made with hickory nuts and set it on the > bar. The doctor came in at his regular time, took one sip of the drink > and exclaimed, "This isn't a hazelnut daiquiri!" > > "No, I'm sorry," replied the bartender, "it's a hickory daiquiri, doc." > > 10. A hungry lion was roaming through the jungle looking for something > to eat. He came across two men. One was sitting under a tree and reading > a book; the other was typing away on his typewriter. > > The lion quickly pounced on the man reading the book and devoured him. > > Even the king of the jungle knows that readers digest and writers cramp. > > 11. There was a man who entered a local paper's pun contest. He sent in > ten different puns, in the hope that at least one of the puns would win. > Unfortunately, no pun in ten did. > > 12. A guy goes to a psychiatrist. "Doc, I keep having these alternating > recurring dreams. First I'm a tepee; then I'm a wigwam; then I'm a > tepee; then I'm a wigwam. It's driving me crazy. What's wrong with me?" > > The doctor replies: "It's very simple. You're two tents." From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:22:46 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11939 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17162 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23864 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:22:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:22:44 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:22:35 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 10:21:24 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: LungHD@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harley Clones, Yamahas etc.... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Barnett in El Paso, Texas. >>> - 11/5/98 6:18 PM >>> << Hmmm, I always heard that HD has "zones, territories, or areas", that means that if you live in the area of one HD shop, others couldn't/wouldn't sell to you. Is that just a myth?>> Don't know for sure about that. Heard that story about someone else who wanted to make a cash buy of a Road King. What I do know is that the world's largest HD dealership in Texas offers a Fly & Ride program & will sell to anyone & finances as well. Barnet?/Bartell? HD I think. I'll check & get back to ya on the name. I know they do have a website. Lung From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:25:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11962 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA17194 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA23915 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Ray'" , Todd Peer , Donald.Burger@XXXXXX, LungHD@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Ah, but you're age is really showing now. I was teaching a junior high school class recently, and telling them about watching Neil Armstrong walk on the moon. I just got blank stares; sheesh, they weren't even born by the last moon visit! Going thru my second mid-life crisis ... Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:raymondlucas@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:04 PM To: Todd Peer; Donald.Burger@XXXXXX; LungHD@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: local elections Joan Baez dedicated the song "Drug Store Truck Drivin Man" to Ronald Ray-Gun (her pronunciation) at Woodstock in August 1969 which was held on Max Yasgurs farm in upstate New York miles and miles from Woodstock. Are you some kind of pinko commie that doesn't know about Woodstock? Everybody knows about Woodstock! Ray ---Todd Peer wrote: > > > Ray, I'm your age and I don't know what the hell your talking about. Must > be a southern Thang! > > Todd > > Ray L. wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Everybody sing along: > > > > "he's a drugstore truck-drivin man... > > he's the head of the ku klux klan > > When summer comes rolling around > > we'll be lucky to get out of town." > > > > The listers who were not even born in 1969 probably won't know what > > that's from, or even who Max Yasgur is and why his farm is a piece of > > history. > > Ray (seven years old in August '69) > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:27:11 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12046 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:26:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'2xracers@XXXXXX'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Winters Motorcycle Shows. Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:26:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Uh, oh. Getting more interesting by the minute. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: 2xracers@XXXXXX [mailto:2xracers@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 3:12 PM To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Winters Motorcycle Shows. On Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:36:04 -0500, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >1) does the $960/32 = $30 include gas? >2) do you need a CDL (or other variant) to drive a 47 passenger bus? The $960.00 includes *everything* -- bus, DRIVER, tolls, gas, parking, etc. Sorry to be so confusing about this... it's been one of those days. The bus would be a "motor coach" with bathroom, VCR and TV, card tables, a/c (need that in January!), etc. Anita (15 passenger van maybe, 47 passenger bus? No way!) From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:46:11 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12278 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:46:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061446.JAA12278@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:42:27 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:39:37 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) GROAN!! From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:47:36 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12298 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:47:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:46:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Jay St. Peter'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Music Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:46:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Oh, puhleeze! Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Jay St. Peter [mailto:jstpeter@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 8:00 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Music Some of you obviously didn't grow up with real music ... That's right, long hair and spandex the '80s rule From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:48:43 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12316 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:50:16 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:49:39 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: snake69@XXXXXX, bike.dealer@XXXXXX, christopher.meier@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, gixer@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Orange vests..was a long ole subject line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline What's to figure out? It's an oxymoron. Military Intelligence? Present = company excluded though. :-) Scooter >>> "Marvin Heilesen" 11/05/98 05:45PM >>> The backpack alone was not enough, but it was ok to cover up the vest..... I can never figure out military intelligence.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake aka Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:57:45 1998 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL ([199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12490 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:57:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:56:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'McCoy, Brian NAB02'" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:56:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Glad I could get your Friday off to such a positive start. :^=DE Mitch=20 -----Original Message----- From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [mailto:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 9:40 AM To: 'dc' Subject: RE: Punsville GROAN!! From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 09:58:11 1998 Return-Path: dccracing@XXXXXX Received: from geocities.com (mail8.geocities.com [209.1.224.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12500 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:58:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from geocities.com (gateway-fincen.uscg.mil [209.48.193.3]) by geocities.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA27955; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 06:58:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <364300EC.99D95394@geocities.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:00:12 -0500 From: DC-Cycles Racing Reply-To: dccracing@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: EX500 list , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Stray electrons Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Morning all, I was tinkering with my EX project bike last night now that it's all in more or less one piece (thank you mr. zip tie), but it's not getting any spark! :( Everything is connected properly to the wiring harness with the exception of the headlight and front turn signals. the kickstand switch is shorted across (although it'll crank with the wires open as well ???) The clutch switch is closed (working properly..pulled the clip and it quit cranking)..So what's left? It's baffling me.. There should be no reason it isn't firing away. Is there an internal clutch switch? (I don't have the clutch cable itself on there yet...) I'm at a loss... Thanks in advance Collin -- Collin Fagan CCS#210 - WERA#305 DC-Cycles racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/5280/ http://www.dc-cycles.org From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 10:19:24 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12798 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:19:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18037 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:18:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from portal1.visa.com (known portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA25605 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:18:48 -0500 (EST) Received: by portal1.visa.com id HAA11485 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 3.0 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:18:25 -0800 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:18:25 -0800 Message-Id: <33BDE0B29C07D211B12E0001FA68C7DF553507@sw730x023.visa.com> From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 07:18:40 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > 6. A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a > beer?" > > The bartender replies, "For you, no charge." Obviously not Quark's Bar... ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 10:44:43 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13279 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA18466 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG.COM (known [198.69.199.15] [198.69.199.15]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA26383 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:44:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 10:38:45 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 10:38:21 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Subject: Re: RE: Punsville Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Another Deep Space Nine watcher comes out of the woodwork. :-) Scooter >>> "Jordan, Michael" 11/06/98 10:18AM >>> > 6. A neutron goes into a bar and asks the bartender, "How much for a > beer?" >=20 > The bartender replies, "For you, no charge." Obviously not Quark's Bar... ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 11:13:36 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13676 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:13:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 11:15:13 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 11:14:38 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: FYI - Helmets at Springfield Cycle Sport Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Went to pick up my new boots last night (Alpinestars GPS, VERY comfy) and = was looking at their helmets. They have some nice helmets on sale that = they only have one left of that particular model. Couple nice Arai's, = Shoei's and HJC'S. They have a NICE Black Shoei XSP, size Large for $415. = It's been there a while and they're trying to get rid of it. Last RF700 = I bought from them, it was the last one they had left AND on sale, they = took an extra $100 off. You might be able to so the same with this one. = If I didn't already have two helmets, and had an extra $400, I'd buy it. = I tried it on and it fit like my RF700 Medium, only lighter and comfier. = Mike said that the new Shoei's run a size smaller than the old ones. = Anyone interested in giving a Shoei a new home? Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 11:40:42 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14058 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA19166 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (known imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id LAA28445 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:37 -0500 (EST) From: WantAZX6@XXXXXX Received: from WantAZX6@XXXXXX by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WRQQa03291 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:00 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:00 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 190 In a message dated 11/6/98 8:58:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, mrider@XXXXXX writes: << If you need the course for insurance purposes, check with your insurance company. As a beginner course instructor, I'd prefer that you go to the experienced rider course. People that already know how to ride intimidate some of the real beginners. >> Hehehee, you dont think they'd be intimidated if I wheelied my way up to the stop line on the braking exercise do ya? Jack From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 11:47:31 1998 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14190 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:47:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.mil ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09590 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:35:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:48:30 -0500 Message-ID: <97DA9F224D5CD111A0CE00600832A5B11FA149@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LTJG" To: "'dc'" Subject: Stray Electrons take two Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:48:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Grrr.. these silly bike manufacturers and the excuses they make for anti theft devices.... Suzuki uses a resistor in the bottom of the ignition, but a screwdriver will still start it. 94+ EX500's I jsut found out use a diode to limit voltage to the black box...but a screwdriver will still start it.. Why do the bike manufacturers think that someone stealing a bike is going to try and cut wires to hotwire it when all it takes is a hammer and punch/screwdriver... As I mentioned earlier, I was baffled at why the EX wasn't getting any spark. Since the 94 key that came with my box of parts was pretty mangled, I used an 89 model that was on my other one...grrrrr.. Surgery will commence tonight and hopefully that's the solution... CT From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 11:50:23 1998 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14275 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:50:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.11]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA06961 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:50:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199811061650.LAA06961@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:49:22 -0500 Subject: Update on Bus Trip to NYC Motorcycle Show Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) I've already got about sixteen people from dc-cycles interested in the bus trip to NY. That's enough for me to try to make it happen! Here are the details so far: Date: January 16, 1999 Time: Depart DC area at 8:00 am Depart NYC at 9:00 pm (arrive in DC area 1-2 am) Times approximate, will ask for feedback later Destination: Cycle World Int'l Motorcycle Show in NYC Cost: $30.00 for bus, $10.00 for show Who's invited: listmembers, SO's, kids, friends, neighbors, coworkers, anybody with $40! :-) Method of travel: charter bus with reclining seats, bathroom, TV/VCR, etc. I will make sure that carry on food and beverages are allowed. For more info on the show: www.motorcycleshows.com For more info on the charter bus company: www.nationalcoachinc.com My plan is to accumulate names and email addresses of interested parties. I need to have at least 32 people come to meet the $30.00 rate. The bus will hold up to 47. Once I have 40+ names I will send out an email with payment instructions. I have to pay the bus company by the end of December. If we don't get 32 paying passengers (including myself) by then, the trip will be cancelled. I do plan on publicizing this outside of dc-cycles (i.e. maybe CAMS, NOVAMGR, etc.) to make sure we get enough people. If you are interested in the trip and want to be added to my distribution list, please email me. I've already added everyone who has contacted me about the trip. Once I get enough people interested we will firm up pickup point, times, etc., and I will let you know where to send your checks. I will not actually deposit checks until I get 32 in hand. I don't think you'll find a better deal anywhere on a trip to NYC... and you'll get to spend the travel time talking with fellow motorcycle enthusiasts, rather than sweating over traffic on the NJ Turnpike! :-) Anita PS - You don't really need to "cc" the list when you reply... but if you do, please trim out my message! Otherwise, everyone will get real sick of reading about this trip, especially those folks on digest mode! Thanks! From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:10:18 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14521 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA19636 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA29476 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from kbah04 ([131.7.252.171]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA08755; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:10:26 -0500 Message-ID: <36432CCA.FC1D999F@illuminet.net> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 17:07:22 +0000 From: Leon Begeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WantAZX6@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: ERC-certified & ready to help/watch. . . X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not at all. That would be just enough reason for the instructor to ask you to leave the course. You would, of course, be welcome to observe the other students for the rest of the weekend. - Leon Ninja 250 - 4th '98 Cap1000 Tomos Targa LX - world's toughest moped. WantAZX6@XXXXXX wrote: > > In a message dated 11/6/98 8:58:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, > mrider@XXXXXX writes: > > << If you need the course for insurance purposes, check with your insurance > company. As a beginner course instructor, I'd prefer that you go to the > experienced rider course. People that already know how to ride > intimidate some of the real beginners. >> > > Hehehee, you dont think they'd be intimidated if I wheelied my way up to the > stop line on the braking exercise do ya? > > Jack From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:20:54 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14665 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:19:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061719.MAA14665@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:15:02 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Sean and his Tire Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:12:14 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Anyone talk with Sean yet about trading the 207 for the Nighthawk? I mailed him, no reply.. called his home.. he's not there... Don't really want to call his work without his last name (anyone got that?) - but I'm not going to bother if someone else has already talked with him... Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:36:21 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15041 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:37:09 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:36:54 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Sean and his Tire Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Haven't talked to him....go for it. His last name is Petr. Scooter >>> "McCoy, Brian NAB02" 11/06/98 = 12:12PM >>> Anyone talk with Sean yet about trading the 207 for the Nighthawk? I mailed him, no reply.. called his home.. he's not there... Don't really want to call his work without his last name (anyone got that?) - but I'm = not going to bother if someone else has already talked with him... Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:38:21 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15060 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:38:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA20446 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (known imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA01017 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:38 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WOTGa13873; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <1722df0c.364333bf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:03 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX, tl1000s@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: HERES THE DEAL.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Ok, gotten more than enough responses, I am making a few phone calls on the people who I recieved messages from first... if they dont come through, Ill make my way through the list. I will keep all updated. please dont send any more mail or call until I can see what they want to do. I already have more mail than i can handle. Sean... From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 12:52:30 1998 Return-Path: SRUSH@XXXXXX Received: from GKMG.COM ([198.69.199.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15340 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:52:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from GKMG-Message_Server by GKMG.COM with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:53:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:53:29 -0500 From: "SCOTT Rush" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: ERC Class Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'm bringing the Oreo Double-Stuff cookies that our instructor requested. = Someone else will have to bring the Hot Chocolate. :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:10:56 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15576 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:10:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA21263; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:10:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061810.NAA21263@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: , Subject: Re: **SATURDAY RIDE** Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:10:11 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0986.C91DE5C0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0986.C91DE5C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > If you're an AOL subscriber, this will look OK, if not, you may have lots of > code. Looks fine to me. Are you sure that it's not just you??? > The "Arch Run" out of Hagerstown, MD > Hookup: 10:00 a.m. Firehouse off 355 (Urbana) > (for directions contact NJITZUL, Rob) > Hookup: 11:00 a.m. Twigg's Cycle, Rt. 40 (Hagerstown) > > Captain Rob (NJITZUL) will be leading. > Please confirm your arrival with NJITZUL so he knows to wait for you! > It's going to be nippy, so dress warmly!! > Look forward to meeting you all! I am finding it hard to believe that a southerner like you is going to venture out in the cold..... :) All I need to do now is find the Firehouse..... ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0986.C91DE5C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> If you're an AOL subscriber, this = will look OK, if not, you may have lots of
> code.

Looks fine to me.  Are you sure that it's not = just you???

> The "Arch Run" = out of Hagerstown, MD
> Hookup:  10:00 a.m.  Firehouse = off 355 (Urbana)
> (for directions contact NJITZUL, Rob)
> = Hookup:  11:00 a.m.  Twigg's Cycle, Rt. 40 = (Hagerstown)
>
> Captain Rob (NJITZUL) will be leading. =  
> Please confirm your arrival with NJITZUL so he knows to = wait for you!
> It's going to be nippy, so dress warmly!!
> = Look forward to meeting you all!

I am = finding it hard to believe that a southerner like you is
going to = venture out in the cold.....    :)

All I need to = do now is find the Firehouse.....

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0986.C91DE5C0-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:23:29 1998 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15782 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:23:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061823.NAA15782@meretrix.com> Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:23:00 -0800 From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: **SATURDAY RIDE** Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:16:48 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) hrm.. my parents had even met yet in 69...  what's that make me? -----Original Message----- Oh yeah, Ray's the old one.  He was seven in August of '69 while I was only six.   :) Snake From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:36:06 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15982 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:36:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from pop02.globecomm.net (pop02.globecomm.net [206.253.129.186]) by torrentnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20841 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:18:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop02.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA24173; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:17:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061817.NAA24173@pop02.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Subject: Re: **SATURDAY RIDE** Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:16:27 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE0987.A8D02200" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0987.A8D02200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I need to be HOME by 5pm.. so hopefully this ride is on a shorter order.. or > perhaps we can bump back the times a little bit (I 'sleep in' till 7am on > weekends.. what happens when you get up at 5am every weekday). Any > clue/idea? I also sleep into almost 5:00am on weekdays. But, I sleep in to the same time of weekends, too. Too many years of feeding the livestock back home.... > Oh, and Snake.. I'm sure we'll be seeing each other in Urbana.. I'm on a > blue 87 VFR sportbike.. black full tankbra and upper fairing cover (also > black). Oh.. Black Vanson jacket and Arai lid.. yea, I know..I'll look for > the guy with the red face and 1/2 lid.. :P I do own a full face neck breaker. My wife wears it. I'll be on the black and white shadow ACE, windshield, saddle bags, and probably with my wife on the back. Just look for the person who looks like the old fart social deviant (that's me!). Oh yeah, Ray's the old one. He was seven in August of '69 while I was only six. :) Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE0987.A8D02200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I need to be HOME by 5pm.. so = hopefully this ride is on a shorter order.. or
> perhaps we can = bump back the times a little bit (I 'sleep in' till 7am on
> = weekends.. what happens when you get up at 5am every weekday). =  Any
> clue/idea?

I also sleep = into almost 5:00am on weekdays.  But, I sleep in to
the same = time of weekends, too.  Too many years of feeding
the livestock = back home....

> Oh, and Snake.. =  I'm sure we'll be seeing each other in Urbana.. I'm on a
> = blue 87 VFR sportbike.. black full tankbra and upper fairing cover = (also
> black).  Oh.. Black Vanson jacket and Arai lid.. yea, = I know..I'll look for
> the guy with the red face and 1/2 lid.. = :P

I do own a full face neck breaker. =  My wife wears it.  I'll be on the
black and white shadow = ACE, windshield, saddle bags, and
probably with my wife on the back. =  Just look for the person who
looks like the old fart social = deviant (that's me!).  Oh yeah, Ray's
the old one.  He was = seven in August of '69 while I was only six. =   :)

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE0987.A8D02200-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:43:05 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16113 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21275 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:42:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03653 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:42:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTD2VLEL; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:41:28 EST To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Punsville Message-ID: <19981105.103155.8095.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4-5,8-9,15-17,19,21-22,28-29,31,33-35 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:41:28 EST On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:21:26 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch" writes: >I don't write them..... I'm dying over here. I've heard some bad jokes in my time, but those are REALLY bad. If you've heard those, you must have heard this one: A man walks into a bar with a box under his arm, which he sets on the bar as he orders his beer. After a while, the bartender asks, "What's in the box?" For answer, the man opens the box and pulls out an exquisite miniature piano and a matching bench. Next he reaches into the box and pulls out a little man dressed in a tuxedo with tails. The little man walks across the bar and sits down at the piano and begins to play. He plays Chopin and Beethoven for several minutes while the surrounding customers and the bartender look on, dumbfounded. "Where'd you get that?!" exclaims the bartender. "I got him from a genie down on the corner who's granting wishes," replies the man. "Holy smoke!" says the bartender, and he leaps over the bar and races out into the street, leaving his post unguarded. A few minutes later, the bartender returns with a wide grin on his face. A duck flies through the open door, lands on the bar beside the bartender and quacks at him expectantly. Soon, another duck comes in, then another and another. Pretty soon, the bar is full of ducks, all of them quacking and flapping their wings, trying to get as close to the bartender as they can. The frustrated bartender shouts over the din, "Man, that genie must be deaf! I wished for a million BUCKS, not a million DUCKS!" "I know what you mean," says the man with the box. "You don't think I asked for a 12-inch pianist, do you?" JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:44:50 1998 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from pop03.globecomm.net (pop03.globecomm.net [206.253.130.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16123 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from HeilesenM.nmri.nnmc.navy.mil ([131.158.70.177]) by pop03.globecomm.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA05766; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199811061843.NAA05766@pop03.globecomm.net> From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "Jay St. Peter" , Subject: Re: Music Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:43:01 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BE098B.5F5D3280" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BE098B.5F5D3280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Some of you obviously didn't grow up with real music ... > That's right, long hair and spandex > the '80s rule Obviously. I have good taste in music. There has been very little good music released after 1975. Life as we knew ceased to exist when disco hit. ****** DISCO SUCKS ****** Snake ------=_NextPart_000_01BE098B.5F5D3280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Some of you obviously didn't grow = up with real music ...
> That's right, long hair and = spandex
> the '80s rule

Obviously. =  I have good taste in music.

There has been very little good = music released after 1975.  Life
as we knew ceased to exist = when disco hit.

=             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;      ****** DISCO SUCKS = ******

Snake

------=_NextPart_000_01BE098B.5F5D3280-- From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:45:30 1998 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16164 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:45:29 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTD232CC; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:44:59 EST To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: **SATURDAY RIDE** Message-ID: <19981105.103523.8095.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <199811061823.NAA15782@meretrix.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-4 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:44:59 EST On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:16:48 -0800 "McCoy, Brian NAB02" writes: >hrm.. my parents had even met yet in 69...  what's that make me? A baby... ;-) ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:46:59 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16174 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21345 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03758 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'bike.dealer@XXXXXX'" , "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Punsville Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Hey, wait a minute, I resemble that ... oops, never mind. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX [mailto:bike.dealer@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 1:41 PM To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Punsville On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:21:26 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch" writes: >I don't write them..... I'm dying over here. I've heard some bad jokes in my time, but those are REALLY bad. If you've heard those, you must have heard this one: A man walks into a bar with a box under his arm, which he sets on the bar as he orders his beer. After a while, the bartender asks, "What's in the box?" For answer, the man opens the box and pulls out an exquisite miniature piano and a matching bench. Next he reaches into the box and pulls out a little man dressed in a tuxedo with tails. The little man walks across the bar and sits down at the piano and begins to play. He plays Chopin and Beethoven for several minutes while the surrounding customers and the bartender look on, dumbfounded. "Where'd you get that?!" exclaims the bartender. "I got him from a genie down on the corner who's granting wishes," replies the man. "Holy smoke!" says the bartender, and he leaps over the bar and races out into the street, leaving his post unguarded. A few minutes later, the bartender returns with a wide grin on his face. A duck flies through the open door, lands on the bar beside the bartender and quacks at him expectantly. Soon, another duck comes in, then another and another. Pretty soon, the bar is full of ducks, all of them quacking and flapping their wings, trying to get as close to the bartender as they can. The frustrated bartender shouts over the din, "Man, that genie must be deaf! I wished for a million BUCKS, not a million DUCKS!" "I know what you mean," says the man with the box. "You don't think I asked for a 12-inch pianist, do you?" JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 13:49:05 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16184 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:49:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA21366 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:49:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (known imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA03811; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:48:58 -0500 (EST) From: CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX Received: from CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WQJVa17824; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:46:31 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, balt-cycles@XXXXXX, tl1000s@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Nighthawk---- sold. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 Thanks for all the inquries, Im sure my mom will be giddy with joy when she finds out its actually gone. The lucky taker - George Howell. He'll be by tonight. Just so everyone is aware, I responded to the first email I got, he was quick. if for some reason this doesnt go through, I'll let you all know. Sean... From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:01:21 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16382 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:01:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21564 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from m21.boston.juno.com (known m21.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04132 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id DTD3ZCUL; Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:01:00 EST To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: accident Message-ID: <19981105.105136.8151.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4-6 From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX (Bikes R Us) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:01:00 EST On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:08 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch LT writes: > "Master, Master!......The Hills are alive with the sound of music!" It takes a special kind of bad joke to smoothly segue from Frankenstein to The Sound of Music... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:02:52 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16392 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21595 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (known imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04170 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:45 -0500 (EST) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv16.10) id WQGHa03976 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <405c8f3e.364347b0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:02:08 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Geeze louise.... Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 167 If I woulda known he wanted to get rid of that thing that badly, I would've bought him front AND rears for that thing.....polished his rims too.....shoot. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:04:14 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16402 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:04:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21614 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:04:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04185 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:03:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'bike.dealer@XXXXXX'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: accident Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:03:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain OK, OK, I can take the hint. That's what happens when you get older -- you've heard all the dirty jokes, so the only thing left are the bad ones. Mitch BTW, I was one month shy of 10 during Woodstock, so based on the mailing list's definition of old, I'm ancient. -----Original Message----- From: bike.dealer@XXXXXX [mailto:bike.dealer@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 2:01 PM To: HolmesM@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: accident On Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:06:08 -0500 "Holmes, Mitch LT writes: > "Master, Master!......The Hills are alive with the sound of music!" It takes a special kind of bad joke to smoothly segue from Frankenstein to The Sound of Music... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri Nov 6 14:13:47 1998 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16562 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (known mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA21782 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id OAA04506 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:12:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:12:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: One more Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:12:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail 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