From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 06:01:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1B1cO7028998; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:01:38 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1B1Hog028983; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:01:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Where to buy gloves? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:00:57 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <20021031213008.GBKA16189.mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc09> In-Reply-To: <20021031213008.GBKA16189.mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc09> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0211010600578F.07826@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Thursday 31 October 2002 14:59, purdyjeremy@XXXXXX wrote: > Where is a good place to go to buy good cold weather motorcycle gloves in > NO.Va.? I would like to avoind Coleman if at all possible, but I don't > know where else would have gloves which are actually "designed" for > motorcycle use. > > Also, is there really much of a difference between alleged "motorcycle" > gloves and the skiing gloves sold in Hudson Trail? > I used skiing gloves last year and they worked fine down to the coldest day (17 I think). I expect more cold and colder days coming up. > BTW: People were asking yesterday about who rode in during the rain... I > rode in on every cold, rainy day this week and I don't even have a > windshield... (25 min. communte Arlington to Fairfax) > The cold, rainy days don't bother me. It's the freezing rain/snowy days I have issues with. Rainy days are fun. > -- > Jeremy Purdy > '00 Yamaha V-Star Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 07:45:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1CjiO7029417; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:45:44 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1CjNER029402; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:45:23 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [199.79.176.65] From: "Adam Wah" To: fish@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 12:44:15 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2002 12:44:16.0216 (UTC) FILETIME=[6367C580:01C281A4] Dude, You're burning 4 cylinders, with 4 carbs (or EFI) right? It's going to use gas. If you want gas mileage, buy a 250cc Kaw or maybe a Suzuki Savage thumber 650. Wicking up from a stop or turning the rpm's up through a corner will help lower your milage as well. Passing cars etc... HD's get a respectable 40+. Old Beemer's vary but 40+ is average. A buddy of mine gets 52 regardless of how he rides (he just thinks he's hauling ass). Disc brakes drag a bit and provide resistance. There's all sorts of explainations as to why you think your mileage is suffering. How about air restriction... have you changed your air filter lately? Tire pressure... I'm just guessing. 48 is not bad. aw Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:56:23 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers <> To: DC-Cycles <> Subject: Sucky mileage As I pulled out of the driveway this morning, I couldn't remember how many miles I had left in the tank, so just to be safe I tanked up. Now that I can check my logs, I find... 11 October: Tank up, odo: 19166. Odo is 19196 at end of day. 12 October - 28 October: Bike lies idle in the garage. 29 October: Short ride, odo -> 19244. 30 October: idle. 31 October: Tank up, odo: 19248. Gas added? 2.001 gallons. Eh? When I tanked up on 11 October, I got 48.64 mpg, which I considered somewhat low. Now I'm only getting 41 mpg. What's up with that? Does mileage suffer that much in the cold and rain, or am I piddling gas all over the garage floor? My riding habits haven't changed. Mostly highway riding, some small local-twisty stuff. Fish. Never meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and go well with Catsup. _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!)B  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 07:51:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1CpMO7029473; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:51:22 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1Cp2Z9029458; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 07:51:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 06:51:00 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Sucky Mileage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Adam Wah wrote: > You're burning 4 cylinders, with 4 carbs (or EFI) right? Err, no. 2 cylinders, carbureted. > It's going to use gas. If you want gas mileage, buy a 250cc Kaw or > maybe a Suzuki Savage thumber 650. I'm not complaining about my overall gas mileage. Clearly I'd like it to be as high as possible (my dream car is a Honda Insight, or possibly -- as a concession to practicality, which is no fun -- a Civic Hybrid), but I'm content with my 51mpg lifetime average. I was just curious about the sudden _drop_ in mileage at my last fillup. So long as things remain consistent I can pretend the bike is in good working order and not falling apart beneath me. Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 08:35:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1DZrO7029702; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:35:53 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1DZXYR029687; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:35:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021101133522.60306.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 05:35:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Actually had to close the vent... To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Riding into work this morning (about 6 am) I actually had to reach up and close the vent on my Shoie RF-800. Brrrr! And to top it off, I'm teaching the MSF class this weekend. Anyone have an extra extra extra long extension cord for a Widder Vest? ;-) Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Fairfax, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 08:53:43 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1DrhO7029798; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:53:43 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1DrMYJ029783; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:53:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DC28893.463B4E63@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 08:58:43 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis F. Caplan" CC: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Actually had to close the vent... References: <20021101133522.60306.qmail@web40907.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Louis F. Caplan" wrote: > Riding into work this morning (about 6 am) I actually had to reach up and close > the vent on my Shoie RF-800. Brrrr! And to top it off, I'm teaching the MSF > class this weekend. Anyone have an extra extra extra long extension cord for a > Widder Vest? ;-) > > Louis No ext cord, but I do have a genuine snowmobile suit you could borrow. With the temp in the low 40s, it's good to about 60 MPH wind chill. Dang kid ran off with my snowmobile gloves, can't help you there. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 09:20:07 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1EK7O7029962; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:20:07 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1EK690029955; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:20:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <006801c281b1$da2ef460$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Fish Flowers" , "DC-Cycles" References: Subject: Re: Sucky Mileage Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:18:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Look for longer term trends in your gas mileage. Unless you always fill up at the same pump in the same manner (sidestand, centerstand, etc.) little fluctuations can be statistical anomalies. I'm displaying my ignorance here, but is the GS air cooled? On my old Nighthawk, the fuel economy always went south with the temperature, especially in stop and go driving and short trips. It doesn't noticeably affect the water-cooled bikes I have now. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fish Flowers" I was just curious about the > sudden _drop_ in mileage at my last fillup. So long as things remain > consistent I can pretend the bike is in good working order and not falling > apart beneath me. > > Fish. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 09:25:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1EPQO7030019; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:25:26 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1EPQRR030012; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:25:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20021101092252.02fbd760@pop.east.cox.net> X-Sender: adamme1@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:25:06 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Sucky Mileage In-Reply-To: <006801c281b1$da2ef460$bb82fea9@palladio1> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:18 AM 11/1/2002, you wrote: >Look for longer term trends in your gas mileage. Unless you always fill up >at the same pump in the same manner (sidestand, centerstand, etc.) little >fluctuations can be statistical anomalies. I'm displaying my ignorance >here, but is the GS air cooled? On my old Nighthawk, the fuel economy >always went south with the temperature, especially in stop and go driving >and short trips. It doesn't noticeably affect the water-cooled bikes I have >now. > >Paul in DC >95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 typically mpg will go down in colder temperatures because the engine takes longer to reach operating temperature. Couple *that* with the oxygenated gas soon to come out, (I believe it coincides with the official start of winter on the 21st), and you can pretty much expect to get a very noticeable drop in mpg. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Fish Flowers" > >I was just curious about the > > sudden _drop_ in mileage at my last fillup. So long as things remain > > consistent I can pretend the bike is in good working order and not falling > > apart beneath me. > > > > Fish. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 09:35:21 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1EZLO7030204; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:35:21 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1EZIeu030184; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:35:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DC290D5.1F3F06B0@tasam.com> Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 09:33:57 -0500 From: Skip Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Sucky Mileage References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fish Flowers wrote: > I'm not complaining about my overall gas mileage. Clearly I'd like it to > be as high as possible (my dream car is a Honda Insight, or possibly -- as > a concession to practicality, which is no fun -- a Civic Hybrid), but I'm > content with my 51mpg lifetime average. I was just curious about the > sudden _drop_ in mileage at my last fillup. So long as things remain > consistent I can pretend the bike is in good working order and not falling > apart beneath me. heh... I had a V65 magna, and I was lucky to see 35 mpg. I got as low as 25 out of one tank, but I was hard on the throttle the whole time. Really hard. WFO every chance I got. just keepin' the carbs clean! :~) I REALLY miss that acceleration. that 'stomach wrapped around your spine while you're fanning the clutch lever and flicking the shift-lever like it's a bass drum kick-pedal and you're playing thrash metal' feeling. Saving up for a zrx1200, planned pruchase date, spring 2004. blue skies! skip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 09:35:29 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1EZTO7030263; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:35:29 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1EZTsF030256; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:35:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <1ab.b49a07c.2af3eb2c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 09:35:24 EST Subject: Re: Sucky Mileage To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 Average the mileage over several fill ups, zero the trip meter or write the odometer reading down then keep track of the gallons of fuel you use for several fill ups. Compute mileage the usual way. This will tend to eliminate the "not quite" fill ups and mileage anomalies, into a reading that is more reliable then any single reading. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 11:01:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1G1nO7030816; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:01:49 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1G1ljr030806; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:01:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9607EACF8B@wash58.acs.org> From: Jason Picton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Maryland Ride On Sunday Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:01:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For anyone who is interested. A couple of us from the Maryland HSTA will be riding out of MT Airy this sunday (leaving at 9:30AM) from the Mcdonalds at the intersection of I70&26). While it is supposed to be clear, it will be cold.. The basic idea was to ride west out to Harper Ferry and so forth..... If anyone is interested, let me know... The pace will depend upon the riders. There is one newbie coming so it will be a fairly easy pace... However, she is a pretty good rider so the pace will probably pick up as the day goes... If anyone is definately going to show... Hit me off list and I can provide more details... Jason From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 11:16:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1GGlO7030917; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:16:47 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1GGlZ3030909; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:16:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:16:43 -0500 Message-Id: <200211011116.AA246874620@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: Candytown Trials & School X-Mailer: Vintage Trials, and Trials School 26 October 2002, Candytown, PA ---------------------------------------------------------------- Daughter Ashley and I journeyed to the Candytown Motorcycle Club, PA, for the Vintage Trials, 26 October. Afterwards we participated in a great school on turning, by Travis Fox and Bill Caron. I had some mental baggage left over from my first foray to Candytown the beginning of this year. That was my first attempt to ride Trials, and just getting around the loop was a major exercise. I more or less rode the loop twice and tried a few sections, but left with a limp. I got my knee and shin armor after Candytown. K-K-Killer C-C-Candytown. I decided I'd ride the 3 line. After the Washinton, DC, area sniper was caught, Ashley's soccer team resumed their games so we went there first then hightailed it to Candytown. We got there late, so late that even Marc Bouchard had already arrived. Ashley didn't feel ready to ride the sections with her TY175, but I strapped on my armor, warmed up on my TL125 then headed off for section 1. Mud Hole. That's all I saw, halfway through the section. I made it through in a scrambling sort of manner and wondered how the section would change with more riders. There were 7 sections, and we rode 5 loops. The second time through I got caught in the hole and rolled backwards for a 5. Then I tried one "safety dab" and got through much more easily. Glad 3 is all you can get for paddling, and I'm glad paddling with your hands, too, is still a 3! Rock Hill. Section 2 looked pretty straightforward except for the exit. Scott Stewart, from whom we bought the TY175, was checking. Ride over soccerball-sized rocks while turning and climbing a hill, then descending. The exit required a 90-degree right turn and pass between two trees. I made it 4 times, but once the handlebars got pulled out of my hands when the front wheel hit a rock and I stopped up against a tree. The rocks got muddier and more slippery with time. Log and rock. Section 3 included going over a large log and over a large rock. I made this fairly well except for one time when I got out of sorts going over the log and then flopped around before getting straightened out. The rock got more slippery as the day wore on, but with momentum it wasn't too hard to get over. Ashley tried this section and did quite well, earning congratulations from Chad Bussworth, the checker. Creek Crossing. To get to section 4 we had to cross the creek on a bridge, cross it again in a large and deep mudhole with a half-hidden rock, then slop through soupy mud. The slurping sound the tires made in the mud was definitely worthy of a Halloween horror movie. Queueing up for section 4 required carefully stopping where you could put a foot down on a high point, otherwise it was into the mud. The section was about as hard as the loop getting to it - across the creek, up the bank, around a tree (tight if you took the sneak-line), then exit with a sharp right turn across some partially submerged roots and rocks. And stop where you could put a foot on a rock instead of in the water. I actually scored fairly well on this one, working on keeping my weight over my tires as there was a lot of slip-sliding going on. My front tire felt more like a ski than a tire when coming up the muddy creek bank. Bill Caron checked this section, and provided helpful commentary on my riding later. Rocks and 2 logs. The loop to section 5 was about a 2 or 3-line in difficulty - lots of muddy (and getting muddier with all the riders) rocks. The way I went through was to bend my knees a lot and keep a moderate and steady pace. Riders were trying several different starting points for section 5. The start and the first 20 feet were probably the hardest, amoungst rocks of various sizes. Ashley had to ride through this one to ride the loop, and got congratulated for how well she did. I was talking with Jay, another rider on a TL125, and was impressed at his wearing a not-muddy white sweatshirt. Rocks, log, and fall foliage. Section 6 was pretty straightforward, and one of the prettiest sections. We watched one rider zigzag along on his line while brightly colored Fall leaves blew through. Beautiful. Dry mudhole. Desi Herman was checking section 7. She and husband Paul were the TrialsMasters. I managed to get a basketball-sized rock caught under my engine and it rolled along with me. It then dislodged right in the middle of the path. I asked them not to tell anyone I did it, but it seems I got blamed anyway. Ashley rode this section, too, when I threated to tell Desi on her if she didn't. Again, she looked like she's getting the hang of the TY175, a big jump up from her TY80. We got lunch afterwards and joined the trophy presentation. Desi's Mom handed out the trophies. Paul announced that someone had moved the ribbon from one tree to another on line 1 in section 5 to make it much easier. Trials School. Travis Fox (4th ranked nationally; 7th in the world, I think) and Bill Caron (expert national rider, and Travis' minder) lectured, demonstrated, then critiqued us as we practiced turning. The critiquing was the best part, because having an experienced rider tell you how to improve, making the changes while riding and then feeling them really helps the message sink home. We did many tight circles around Bill and Travis (making some of us quite dizzy!) then rode figure 8's. Later we rode a tight line over and around a rocky hummock while Bill and Travis commented on our style. Bill and Travis' main points were: 1) Keep your feet about 1 in. away from the bike's frame to allow more foot movement when the bike is leaned over. 2) Ride as much on the balls of your feet as possible. It gives you more flexibility and allows more ankle motion for pre-loading and unweighting. Travis said he's always moving his feet around on the pegs. About this time I realized that my stock footpegs are WAY to small. 3) Keep your shoulders parallel with your handlebars. This helps you keep looking where you're going, and helps get your butt to the outside of the turn. 4) Keep your knees loose, and stay low. 5) Keep your weight over the line between your tires' contact patches. If your weight is centered like this, you won't dab when the bike slips or moves underneath you. Many thanks to Candytown MC, Desi and Paul Herman, Travis Fox, and Bill Caron. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 11:20:52 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1GKqO7030976; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:20:52 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1GKq0R030968; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:20:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021101162045.52251.qmail@web41110.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 08:20:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Sucky Mileage To: Fish Flowers , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Fish Flowers wrote: > On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Adam Wah wrote: > > > You're burning 4 cylinders, with 4 carbs (or EFI) > right? > > Err, no. 2 cylinders, carbureted. > > > It's going to use gas. If you want gas mileage, buy a > 250cc Kaw or > > maybe a Suzuki Savage thumber 650. > > I'm not complaining about my overall gas mileage. Clearly > I'd like it to > be as high as possible (my dream car is a Honda Insight, > or possibly -- as > a concession to practicality, which is no fun -- a Civic > Hybrid), but I'm > content with my 51mpg lifetime average. I was just > curious about the > sudden _drop_ in mileage at my last fillup. So long as > things remain > consistent I can pretend the bike is in good working > order and not falling > apart beneath me. my twin ranges from 28 to 45 mpg.... don't worry -- tg __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 11:54:41 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1GsfO7031309; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:54:41 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1Gsf6f031301; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:54:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 10:54:38 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Sucky Mileage In-Reply-To: <006801c281b1$da2ef460$bb82fea9@palladio1> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Paul Wilson wrote: > Unless you always fill up at the same pump in the same manner > (sidestand, centerstand, etc.) little fluctuations can be statistical > anomalies. I always use the centerstand, and usually fill all the way up to the gascap, but I don't always use the same pump. I keep track of the date, odometer reading, and amount of gas added. *shrug* call me anal. > I'm displaying my ignorance here, but is the GS air cooled? Yup. Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 11:57:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1GvqO7031412; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:57:53 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1Gvq4r031404; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:57:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005201c281c7$d3d7b780$a788db42@ALLOUTRACING> Reply-To: "Gary-All Out Racing" From: "Gary-All Out Racing" To: "dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX" , , , , , References: <5.1.1.5.2.20021101092252.02fbd760@pop.east.cox.net> Subject: ANY REAL ATTORNEY'S?? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 11:57:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 are there any "real "attorney's here ? trying to get someone who has heard of the "Scott Ponzer-Decision""????? Ohio Supreme court Dec.2000 it is about U I M (Under Insured Motorist Coverage) please reply. Gary AOR alloutracing@XXXXXX TIA! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 12:06:33 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1H6XO7031493; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:06:33 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1H6WWh031483; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:06:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZLf9Ttl2vNjemQ9QpPzwXryef0cThpHZ99YUwwTj+BCHC8eSaZUrc6UCyg2bLxwGc= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "'Gary-All Out Racing'" , "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: ANY REAL ATTORNEY'S?? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:06:28 -0500 Message-ID: <003701c281c9$0531baf0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <005201c281c7$d3d7b780$a788db42@ALLOUTRACING> Importance: Normal http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Scott+Ponzer+Decision Not a real attorney, or even a fake one. --jon -----Original Message----- From: Gary-All Out Racing [mailto:alloutracing@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:58 AM To: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX; VtecVFROwners@XXXXXX; yamahafj@XXXXXX; suzuki-rf@XXXXXX; kawasaki-ninja@XXXXXX; Hayabusa@XXXXXX Subject: ANY REAL ATTORNEY'S?? are there any "real "attorney's here ? trying to get someone who has heard of the "Scott Ponzer-Decision""????? Ohio Supreme court Dec.2000 it is about U I M (Under Insured Motorist Coverage) please reply. Gary AOR alloutracing@XXXXXX TIA! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 12:10:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1HAZO7031545; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:10:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1HAW9M031530; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:10:32 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaxjOKkyhnFRIFk5s8yCSvnMx16zSVg45Y/IIW9X9Mr/c/HK/yqnODq7p6dP5V2C0Y= Reply-To: From: "Jon Strang" To: "'Gary-All Out Racing'" , "DC Cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: ANY REAL ATTORNEY'S?? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:08:54 -0500 Message-ID: <003801c281c9$5c65f2f0$070312ac@ddlomni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Scott+Pontzer+Dec ision&spell=1 It even works better when I correct your spelling. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Strang [mailto:jmstrang@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:06 PM To: 'Gary-All Out Racing'; DC Cycles (E-mail) Subject: RE: ANY REAL ATTORNEY'S?? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Scott+Ponzer+Decision Not a real attorney, or even a fake one. --jon -----Original Message----- From: Gary-All Out Racing [mailto:alloutracing@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:58 AM To: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX; VtecVFROwners@XXXXXX; yamahafj@XXXXXX; suzuki-rf@XXXXXX; kawasaki-ninja@XXXXXX; Hayabusa@XXXXXX Subject: ANY REAL ATTORNEY'S?? are there any "real "attorney's here ? trying to get someone who has heard of the "Scott Ponzer-Decision""????? Ohio Supreme court Dec.2000 it is about U I M (Under Insured Motorist Coverage) please reply. Gary AOR alloutracing@XXXXXX TIA! From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 12:11:44 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1HBhO7031571; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:11:43 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1HBh9I031564; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:11:43 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004101c281c9$cb066a00$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Fish Flowers" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: Sucky Mileage Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:11:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fish Flowers" > On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Paul Wilson wrote: > > > Unless you always fill up at the same pump in the same manner > > (sidestand, centerstand, etc.) little fluctuations can be statistical > > anomalies. > > I always use the centerstand, and usually fill all the way up to the > gascap, but I don't always use the same pump. I keep track of the date, > odometer reading, and amount of gas added. *shrug* call me anal. > The reason I say "same pump" is that the concrete pads slope away from the pumps. Depending on the angle, it might affect how much gas you can get in the tank, if you're basing your mileage figures on that. A lot of slope and you could have an air bubble on the high side of the tank. My VF is this way. Centerstand is the way to go with the VF, plus nudging the bike with my hip to get the air out. I have to burp the bike to get a full tank of gas. No joke. On the VFR, I monitor the mileage by resetting the tripometer and monitoring when the idiot light comes on. I gave up recording fuel purchases a while back. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 12:14:54 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1HEsO7031616; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:14:54 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1HEsul031609; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:14:54 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514F75@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Cc: "'steven.dipietro@XXXXXX'" Subject: neck was icy (Was "So?") Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:15:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2656.59) Content-Type: text/plain Suzuki Steve Di Pietro Declared, "My feet were a _little_ wet and my hands were cold. I didn't use my scarf under my chin so my neck was icy, damn updraft. Other than that though, I was fairly warm." Warm neck recipe: Quarter yard of "Polartec WindBlock" ~$5.00 Two strips of Velcro: ~ $1.00 Fabric glue Snip and assemble. Equals enough neck warmer for you another. Folks, even with a warm neck, take care. Conspicuity and traction is decreasing with daylight and temperatures. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 12:25:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1HPjO7031690; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:25:45 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1HPj1m031685; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:25:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "'DCCycles'" Subject: Re: neck was icy (Was "So?") Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 13:25:37 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514F75@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> In-Reply-To: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514F75@dchqclexhq.fsis.usda.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0211011225378V.07826@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 01 November 2002 12:15, Custer, Carl wrote: > Suzuki Steve Di Pietro Declared, > "My feet were a _little_ wet and my hands were cold. I didn't use my scarf > under my chin so my neck was icy, damn updraft. Other than that though, I > was fairly warm." > > Warm neck recipe: > Quarter yard of "Polartec WindBlock" ~$5.00 > Two strips of Velcro: ~ $1.00 > Fabric glue > Snip and assemble. > Equals enough neck warmer for you another. > > Folks, even with a warm neck, take care. Conspicuity and traction is > decreasing with daylight and temperatures. It was me not Suzuki Steve that penned that. Bit I agree. I just didn't put my scarf on. I normally just wrap it around my neck and chin and strap the helmet over the scarf. No problems all last winter and no problems so far. It wasn't icy enough for me to stop and adjust it. While being conspicious is high, so is defensive driving. We all know where the worst problems are; intersections. The guy moving from the left or right while in traffic is the more common occurance but the guy making a left is the one that'll stop you. My scarier incidents and one week long hospital visit were the left turners. I've yet to be sideswiped. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 12:33:10 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1HXAO7031765; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:33:10 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1HXAaS031758; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:33:10 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.2.0.5.0.20021101123152.0215fe40@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.5 (Beta) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2002 12:33:03 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Two weeks Off In-Reply-To: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F14514F75@dchqclexhq.fsis.u sda.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Every year, I stop commuting the two weeks after the time change. Deer in heat combined with disoriented commuters and wet leaves = bad situation. At 12:15 PM 11/1/2002, Custer, Carl wrote: >Folks, even with a warm neck, take care. Conspicuity and traction is >decreasing with daylight and temperatures. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr 1997 Honda VFR 750 AMA http://www.ama-cycle.org/ NMA http://www.motorists.org From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 15:26:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1KQUO7032609; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:26:30 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1KQR1i032599; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:26:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021101202617.74758.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:26:17 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: ANY REAL ATTORNEY'S?? To: Gary-All Out Racing , "dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX" In-Reply-To: <005201c281c7$d3d7b780$a788db42@ALLOUTRACING> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii what's a "real" attorney? from what i recall (and fyi in case your inquiry concerns maryland), to pursue a direct action in maryland against an insurer requires liability to have been established. --- Gary-All Out Racing wrote: > are there any "real "attorney's here ? > trying to get someone who has heard of the "Scott > Ponzer-Decision""????? > Ohio Supreme court Dec.2000 > it is about U I M (Under Insured Motorist Coverage) > please reply. Gary AOR > alloutracing@XXXXXX > TIA! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 15:34:48 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1KYlO7000398; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:34:47 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1KYlVK000390; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:34:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021101203445.77047.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:34:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: ANY REAL ATTORNEY'S?? To: Tom Gimer , "dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX" In-Reply-To: <20021101202617.74758.qmail@web41106.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii One that gets paid for his advice is a start, right? I cannot believe people that complain about free advice.... --- Tom Gimer wrote: > what's a "real" attorney? > > from what i recall (and fyi in case your inquiry > concerns > maryland), to pursue a direct action in maryland > against an > insurer requires liability to have been established. > > > > > --- Gary-All Out Racing > wrote: > > are there any "real "attorney's here ? > > trying to get someone who has heard of the "Scott > > Ponzer-Decision""????? > > Ohio Supreme court Dec.2000 > > it is about U I M (Under Insured Motorist > Coverage) > > please reply. Gary AOR > > alloutracing@XXXXXX > > TIA! > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ > ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 15:39:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1KdFO7000834; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:39:15 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1KdFTZ000826; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:39:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <004b01c281e5$9a177e40$6500a8c0@MASA.masainc.com> From: "Shigeru Honda" To: Subject: Online Classifieds Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:31:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 single male looking for a good time on top of a two wheeled vehicle... prefers slim & light weight two cylinders with 4 valves. Is there a good online classifieds for bikes that's easy search as well? I'm looking for a cheap SV650 as a commuter & etc. (darn, I miss the HawkGT....) Ducati's Monster seems nice too but do they still have heavy clutch lever and hard to find neutrals? couldn't really find good stuff at www.cycletrader.com or www.motorcycle.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 15:44:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1KixO7001131; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:44:59 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1KiwJX001125; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:44:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021101204455.50893.qmail@web13906.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 12:44:55 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Lamond Subject: Re: Online Classifieds To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <004b01c281e5$9a177e40$6500a8c0@MASA.masainc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cycletrader.com is pretty good. You can also search the adds in the post at washingtonpost.com. Someone in Ohio has an 2000 SV650 on ebay with a buy it now price of 3,300. Keith --- Shigeru Honda wrote: > single male looking for a good time on top of a two > wheeled vehicle... > prefers slim & light weight two cylinders with 4 > valves. > > Is there a good online classifieds for bikes that's > easy search as well? > I'm looking for a cheap SV650 as a commuter & etc. > (darn, I miss the > HawkGT....) > Ducati's Monster seems nice too but do they still > have heavy clutch lever > and hard to find neutrals? > couldn't really find good stuff at > www.cycletrader.com or www.motorcycle.com > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 15:50:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1KoIO7001386; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:50:18 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1KoI7K001377; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 15:50:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Subject: Re: Online Classifieds Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 14:49:00 -0600 Message-ID: <16139506CDB26245BB37BF17A641962307654279@nt-hqexbh1.boiseoffice.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: Online Classifieds Thread-Index: AcKB6D7SgLlxwsi0SxOKDlDEK9EIiA== From: To: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id gA1KoHO7001365 Try this link http://www.svrider.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.cgi?search_and_di splay_db_button=on&query=category&category=Bikes+For+Sale&results_format =headlines George Cole >>> Shigeru Honda 11/01/02 03:31PM >>> Is there a good online classifieds for bikes that's easy search as well? I'm looking for a cheap SV650 as a commuter & etc. (darn, I miss the HawkGT....) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 16:36:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA1LaMO7001869; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:36:22 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA1LaLfV001859; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:36:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE9607EACF91@wash58.acs.org> From: Jason Picton To: "'Shigeru Honda'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Online Classifieds Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 16:36:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" try yahoo classifieds. Not as widely used but you can find serious deals.. A friend last month picked up a pristine 2000-1 SV650S with 750 miles for what was left on the guy's loan - $3500. I found a bandit 400 3 three months ago for $1000 with 15,000 miles (ok so it's not a twin, but it's fun)... Jason I Picton jip98@XXXXXX 1998 Honda VTR1000 Superhawk 1991 Suzuki GSF400 Bandit 1989 Honda NT650 Hawk GT 1988 Honda NX650 -----Original Message----- From: Shigeru Honda [mailto:shonda3@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 3:31 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Online Classifieds single male looking for a good time on top of a two wheeled vehicle... prefers slim & light weight two cylinders with 4 valves. Is there a good online classifieds for bikes that's easy search as well? I'm looking for a cheap SV650 as a commuter & etc. (darn, I miss the HawkGT....) Ducati's Monster seems nice too but do they still have heavy clutch lever and hard to find neutrals? couldn't really find good stuff at www.cycletrader.com or www.motorcycle.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 20:02:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA212QO7004126; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:02:26 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA212PK8004119; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:02:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:16:32 -0500 (EST) From: Wayne Edelen X-Sender: To: Subject: Kill the weathermen/women! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Left the house around 11am today on my Busa. Checked the weather before I left, clear and cool, high around 55 forecast for the DC Metro area. Got on 15 south in Frederick heading down to Leesburg, then out to Reston to meet some friends for lunch. As soon as I hit the road, it started to rain and the temps dropped. Rained for 90% of the trip to lunch. Jumped on the toll road/beltway to head to Rockville to run some other errands and was greeted with cool temps and light rain for the rest of the day :-\ I really need to work on a solution to keep my chin/neck warm. I like Bill's suggestion of velcroing some polartech to the bottom of the helmet. I think I'll make that a project for the weekend :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri Nov 1 22:03:30 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA233UO7004850; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:03:30 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA233Thx004842; Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:03:29 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Where to buy gloves? Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 22:03:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20021031213008.GBKA16189.mtiwmhc14.worldnet.att.net@mtiwebc09> Importance: Normal My employer has some very warm gloves. give us a call on Monday at 703-913-7261. LindaT. Custom TankBags Now - TankBags for 1800 Wings Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) AMA IBA HSTA BMWBMW 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.customtankbags.com -----Original Message----- From: purdyjeremy@XXXXXX [mailto:purdyjeremy@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:00 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Where to buy gloves? Where is a good place to go to buy good cold weather motorcycle gloves in NO.Va.? I would like to avoind Coleman if at all possible, but I don't know where else would have gloves which are actually "designed" for motorcycle use. Also, is there really much of a difference between alleged "motorcycle" gloves and the skiing gloves sold in Hudson Trail? BTW: People were asking yesterday about who rode in during the rain... I rode in on every cold, rainy day this week and I don't even have a windshield... (25 min. communte Arlington to Fairfax) -- Jeremy Purdy '00 Yamaha V-Star From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 08:02:20 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2D2KO7007916; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:02:20 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA2D2JZ9007909; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:02:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <4c.1448c4e3.2af526d3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:02:11 EST Subject: Re: Candytown Trials & School To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 11/1/2002 11:17:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: > warmed up on my TL125 You have a TL125? _neat!_ I would love to have one. Motocrossed a highly modified SL125 for years, love that motor. If I could afford one I would have one of the Honda Reflex TLR200 street trials, rode one in NV at a dealer I worked for, neat bike, would be a lot of fun around here. Last time I watched a vintage trials I was ready to steal a bike, I wanted to play so badly. Gotta go slow before you can go fast! John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 08:15:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2DFeO7008008; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:15:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA2DFeRM008000; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:15:40 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <94.2f3647c8.2af529f3@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:15:31 EST Subject: Re: Kill the weathermen/women! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 11/1/2002 8:02:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, wayne@XXXXXX writes: > I like > Bill's suggestion of velcroing some polartech to the bottom of the helmet. So do I _but_ a little caution is called for, be careful that you allow enough air flow to breathe, there have been cases of riders having problems from too little air flow, easy to do when trying to stay warm. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European is now necessary {and I still like it.}) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 12:02:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2H2eO7009254; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:02:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA2H2cUd009244; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:02:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Originating-IP: [68.48.118.251] From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kill the weathermen/women! Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 12:01:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Nov 2002 17:01:31.0770 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E2025A0:01C28291] Wayne, I've had great success with one of those neoprene (?sp) ski masks that cover from the nose down past the chin where your jacket might end. Fits fine under the helmet and keeps that area nice and warm. Below that...Gerbings, baby! Galyans, Ski Chalet, maybe even Modell's and Sports Authority. Rob '98 VFR800 From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: Kill the weathermen/women! Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2002 20:16:32 -0500 (EST) Left the house around 11am today on my Busa. Checked the weather before I left, clear and cool, high around 55 forecast for the DC Metro area. Got on 15 south in Frederick heading down to Leesburg, then out to Reston to meet some friends for lunch. As soon as I hit the road, it started to rain and the temps dropped. Rained for 90% of the trip to lunch. Jumped on the toll road/beltway to head to Rockville to run some other errands and was greeted with cool temps and light rain for the rest of the day :-\ I really need to work on a solution to keep my chin/neck warm. I like Bill's suggestion of velcroing some polartech to the bottom of the helmet. I think I'll make that a project for the weekend :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free!)B  Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 12:32:25 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2HWPO7009571; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:32:25 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA2HWP08009563; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 12:32:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Motor PsychoL Danny To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: racers, more suzuki HP? Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 12:43:43 -0500 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id gA2HWOO7009551 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1865985159 Anyone race know of any racers trick to accomplish the same thing? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 13:25:23 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2IPNO7010070; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:25:23 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA2IPMs4010060; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:25:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00d901c2829d$30a56fe0$9865fea9@Godzilla> From: "Master Thomas Staney" To: References: Subject: Free maps Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:25:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 I remember a question on maps a while back. I came upon a link for free maps for Maryland roads, scenic roads and others. http://www.sha.state.md.us/oppe/freemaps.asp Hope this helps anyone out, I ordered them to see what they were like. Scott From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 13:31:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2IV2O7010309; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:31:02 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA2IV2S5010298; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:31:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <00bc01c2829c$c6e990e0$077e5c0c@micron> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Sinister Shadows Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:22:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 For me its sinister shadows season clear through March -- those bright days when sunshields are necessary but urban shadows in the canyons are long and frequent and darker for the shields. Plenty, very plenty, hiding places for cars, people, etc. ready to pounce. I don't trust those dark spaces. Bill S. / DC '99 VN750 > Next -- daylight 360deg floodlights Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From: Troutman Subject: Two weeks Off Every year, I stop commuting the two weeks after the time change. Deer in heat combined with disoriented commuters and wet leaves = bad situation. At 12:15 PM 11/1/2002, Custer, Carl wrote: >Folks, even with a warm neck, take care. Conspicuity and traction is >decreasing with daylight and temperatures. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 13:52:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2IqdO7010594; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:52:39 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA2Iqdkl010586; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:52:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 13:51:55 -0500 From: STmaven@XXXXXX To: motorcycle@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: racers, more suzuki HP? MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0C8570A5.035F1162.001912B6@aol.com> X-Mailer: Atlas Mailer 2.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit can't you just remap your FI to accomplish this? using a power commander or something else. i have carbs so i dont need to worry about this issue. -mark In a message dated 11/2/2002 12:43:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, motorcycle@XXXXXX writes: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1865985159 > > Anyone race know of any racers trick to accomplish the same > thing? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 16:02:01 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2L21O7011391; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:02:01 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA2L20WP011379; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:02:00 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Really-To: From: "Gary Foreman" To: "'Motor PsychoL Danny'" , Subject: RE: racers, more suzuki HP? Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:01:54 -0500 Message-ID: <004701c282b3$133eb9f0$1b06030a@5Q39911> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: It's called a TRE (Timing Retard Eliminator) and you can do it yourself for about $3 if you don't mind soldering. The one sold there plugs in. Here are details on doing it yourself: http://pub141.ezboard.com/ftlownersboardtl1000faqs.showMessage?topicID=7 9.topic Gary Foreman -----Original Message----- From: Motor PsychoL Danny [mailto:motorcycle@XXXXXX] Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 12:44 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: racers, more suzuki HP? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1865985159 Anyone race know of any racers trick to accomplish the same thing? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 18:23:50 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA2NNoO7012354; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:23:50 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA2NNnG8012344; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:23:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 18:23:46 -0500 Message-Id: <200211021823.AA46269000@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: , Subject: Re: Candytown Trials & School X-Mailer: Lotsa fun. Got my TL for $800, have about $1500 in it now to make it competitive (competitive in vintage trials, that is). For bikes for sale, see: http://www.potomacvintageriders.com http://www.ahrma-ma.org http://www.mavt.org :-) Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 08:02:11 EST >In a message dated 11/1/2002 11:17:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, >cnorloff@XXXXXX writes: > >> warmed up on my TL125 > >You have a TL125? _neat!_ I would love to have one. Motocrossed a highly >modified SL125 for years, love that motor. >If I could afford one I would have one of the Honda Reflex TLR200 street >trials, rode one in NV at a dealer I worked for, neat bike, would be a lot of >fun around here. >Last time I watched a vintage trials I was ready to steal a bike, I wanted to >play so badly. >Gotta go slow before you can go fast! > > >John Walters (Long John) >PenguinBiker@XXXXXX >Up near DC > >Honda ST1100X Pan European > (With all of the STs all of a sudden the Pan European > is now necessary {and I still like it.}) >BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles >Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 19:28:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA30SRO7013430; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:28:27 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA30SRig013422; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 19:28:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20021102192653.009ea120@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2002 19:28:12 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: llarson@XXXXXX Subject: Final F-1 Report for dual-purpose moto/F-1 fans... In-Reply-To: <200211030000.gA3001Op012702@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed See http://www.xhost.org/JapanGP/ Regards, Larry From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat Nov 2 20:42:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA31gIO7013922; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:42:18 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA31gHLx013914; Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:42:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <012b01c282d8$e3c54ba0$077e5c0c@micron> From: "Mobacc \(now @ATT\)" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Force Ebay Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 20:32:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 An eye-opening stat came up in an Ebay:garage-to-IBM interview -- It now transfers a motorcycle every 18 minutes. "Sixteen . . Seventeen . . Eighteen/Done". Bill S. / DC '99 VN750 > One of the better ways to leave. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Nov 3 10:00:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA3F0HO7030011; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:00:17 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA3F0Gl2029998; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:00:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Bleeder on Sunday? Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:00:10 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c28349$b500b950$6401a8c0@cypher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at pop016.verizon.net from [141.156.252.71] at Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:00:06 -0600 Anyone have any idea where to get a bleeder valve today? I over tightened one and crushed it. It's a very small one that goes into a Goodridge master cylinder banjo bleeder. If I can't find one, no riding today :(. HELP! Thanks- Rob C From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Nov 3 10:17:02 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA3FH2O7030109; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:17:02 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA3FH2Uw030102; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:17:02 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DC53F31.7E040107@patriot.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 10:22:25 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rm.curtis@XXXXXX CC: DC-CYCLES Subject: Re: Bleeder on Sunday? References: <000401c28349$b500b950$6401a8c0@cypher> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob Curtis wrote: > Anyone have any idea where to get a bleeder valve today? I over > tightened one and crushed it. It's a very small one that goes into a > Goodridge master cylinder banjo bleeder. If I can't find one, no riding > today :(. > HELP! Thanks- > > Rob C Auto parts - bleeders are fairly standard, take what's left of the damaged one for a positive match. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Nov 3 10:24:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA3FOGO7030165; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:24:16 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA3FOFs7030157; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:24:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Reply-To: From: "Rob Curtis" To: "'William J. Huson'" Cc: "'DC-CYCLES'" Subject: RE: Bleeder on Sunday? Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:24:09 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01c2834d$0eb37e80$6401a8c0@cypher> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3DC53F31.7E040107@patriot.net> X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at pop017.verizon.net from [141.156.252.71] at Sun, 3 Nov 2002 09:24:05 -0600 I forgot cars have brakes. Good idea. Robby C. -----Original Message----- From: William J. Huson [mailto:bhuson@XXXXXX] Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 10:22 To: rm.curtis@XXXXXX Cc: DC-CYCLES Subject: Re: Bleeder on Sunday? Rob Curtis wrote: > Anyone have any idea where to get a bleeder valve today? I over > tightened one and crushed it. It's a very small one that goes into a > Goodridge master cylinder banjo bleeder. If I can't find one, no riding > today :(. > HELP! Thanks- > > Rob C Auto parts - bleeders are fairly standard, take what's left of the damaged one for a positive match. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Nov 3 10:44:17 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA3FiHO7030281; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:44:17 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA3FiGwX030274; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:44:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2002 10:44:10 -0500 (EST) From: Peter Hartzler X-X-Sender: ph@XXXXXX To: Rob Curtis cc: "'DC-CYCLES'" Subject: RE: Bleeder on Sunday? In-Reply-To: <000b01c2834d$0eb37e80$6401a8c0@cypher> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Loop-Detect: 1 LOL. It's easy to forget that, sometimes. -ph On Sun, 3 Nov 2002, Rob Curtis wrote: > I forgot cars have brakes. Good idea. > > Robby C. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Nov 3 18:12:59 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA3NCxO7032457; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:12:59 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA3NCwCZ032449; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:12:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 18:10:34 -0500 Subject: Demo rides From: Bob McKeithen To: DC Cycles Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit One of my favorite bikes to ride demos on is the Buell Blast. We have two of them. The handling is great--very responsive--low seat height--easy starting. The one slight draw back is the gearing. They are geared a bit too high making some of the low speed exercises a little tough. I try to put riders with a little experience on them. They also fit a fairly wide range of rider sizes. Great little bike. Bob From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun Nov 3 20:21:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA41LrO7001342; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:21:53 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA41Lqg8001331; Sun, 3 Nov 2002 20:21:52 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DC5CCF8.AAD3AEC6@patriot.net> Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2002 20:27:20 -0500 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob McKeithen CC: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Demo rides References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob McKeithen wrote: > One of my favorite bikes to ride demos on is the Buell Blast. We have two of > them. The handling is great--very responsive--low seat height--easy > starting. The one slight draw back is the gearing. They are geared a bit too > high making some of the low speed exercises a little tough. I try to put > riders with a little experience on them. They also fit a fairly wide range > of rider sizes. Great little bike. > > Bob I seem to recall that H-D changed the final drive ratio on the Blasts they use in their rider program. Didn't get the details, both sprockets or just the output one. Bill From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 06:00:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4B0RO7004102; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:00:27 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4B0Qf1004095; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:00:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: Wayne Edelen , Subject: Re: Kill the weathermen/women! Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:59:51 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0211040559519D.07826@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Friday 01 November 2002 20:16, Wayne Edelen wrote: > Left the house around 11am today on my Busa. Checked the weather before I > left, clear and cool, high around 55 forecast for the DC Metro area. Got > on 15 south in Frederick heading down to Leesburg, then out to Reston to > meet some friends for lunch. > > As soon as I hit the road, it started to rain and the temps dropped. > Rained for 90% of the trip to lunch. > > Jumped on the toll road/beltway to head to Rockville to run some other > errands and was greeted with cool temps and light rain for the rest of the > day :-\ > > I really need to work on a solution to keep my chin/neck warm. I like > Bill's suggestion of velcroing some polartech to the bottom of the helmet. > I think I'll make that a project for the weekend :-) > I've been using a tightly woven thin scarf. I picked up one of the ski type masks (similar to what Bill and/or Carl mentioned) but I find my face shield fogs up much easier with it on. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 06:05:51 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4B5pO7004161; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:05:51 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4B5p3u004156; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 06:05:51 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kill the weathermen/women! Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 07:05:43 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0211040605439E.07826@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Saturday 02 November 2002 12:01, Rob Keiser wrote: > Wayne, > > I've had great success with one of those neoprene (?sp) ski masks that > cover from the nose down past the chin where your jacket might end. Fits > fine under the helmet and keeps that area nice and warm. Below > that...Gerbings, baby! > I picked up my Gerbings Saturday. Gloves and jacket liner. I got it set up last night and went for a test ride. They were quite warm. The only problem is that it blew the fuse at Food Lion (on Minnieville and Spriggs). When I got back on, I set it to 3/4 instead of full and it didn't feel warm. I got to the stoplight on Cardinal and noticed the light wasn't on. I haven't pulled the fuse yet (it was late) but I'll check it today. Any ideas? Possibly because of the sequence? It was turned on (don't know if it was working) when I plugged in the gloves. > Galyans, Ski Chalet, maybe even Modell's and Sports Authority. > I picked up my ski mask at Sports Authority. $19 bucks. > Rob > '98 VFR800 > Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 08:29:49 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4DTnO7004797; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:29:49 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4DTmO6004787; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:29:48 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Kill the weathermen/women! Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:18:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <0211040605439E.07826@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Importance: Normal The trick to heated gear is that it has to be close to your skin. Too many layers between the heat and skin reduces the effectiveness greatly. How many layers did you have on?? What size fuse blew and where? LindaT. Custom TankBags Now - TankBags for 1800 Wings Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) AMA IBA HSTA BMWBMW 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.customtankbags.com -----Original Message----- From: Carl Schelin [mailto:cschelin@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:06 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kill the weathermen/women! On Saturday 02 November 2002 12:01, Rob Keiser wrote: > Wayne, > > I've had great success with one of those neoprene (?sp) ski masks that > cover from the nose down past the chin where your jacket might end. Fits > fine under the helmet and keeps that area nice and warm. Below > that...Gerbings, baby! > I picked up my Gerbings Saturday. Gloves and jacket liner. I got it set up last night and went for a test ride. They were quite warm. The only problem is that it blew the fuse at Food Lion (on Minnieville and Spriggs). When I got back on, I set it to 3/4 instead of full and it didn't feel warm. I got to the stoplight on Cardinal and noticed the light wasn't on. I haven't pulled the fuse yet (it was late) but I'll check it today. Any ideas? Possibly because of the sequence? It was turned on (don't know if it was working) when I plugged in the gloves. > Galyans, Ski Chalet, maybe even Modell's and Sports Authority. > I picked up my ski mask at Sports Authority. $19 bucks. > Rob > '98 VFR800 > Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 08:33:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4DXdO7004851; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:33:39 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4DXctj004843; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:33:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Subject: Re: Kill the weathermen/women! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4 June 8, 2000 Message-ID: From: Kevin_Hawkins@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:30:39 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on ITXF2ALN09/InternetMail(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 11/04/2002 08:32:24 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii When it comes to cold weather riding, along my electrics I consider this to be one of the most important additions to my gear. http://www.motorcycleville.com/Noj_Quiet_Rider_Deluxe_5439.html When used with a Fog City Fog shield, it creates a nice warm environment for your head. Kevin Hawkins kevin_hawkins@XXXXXX http://www.kevinhawk.com Y2K Kawasaki ZRX1100 //'93 Yamaha GTS1000 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Wayne Edelen spoke: I really need to work on a solution to keep my chin/neck warm. I like Bill's suggestion of velcroing some polartech to the bottom of the helmet. I think I'll make that a project for the weekend :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 08:45:00 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4Dj0O7004959; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:45:00 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4Dixh1004949; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:44:59 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: "LindaT." To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Kill the weathermen/women! Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:33:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal We sell some items that might help. Check out http://www.adventuremotogear.com/bikers.htm LindaT. Custom TankBags Now - TankBags for 1800 Wings Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) AMA IBA HSTA BMWBMW 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (69K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.customtankbags.com Wayne Edelen said: I really need to work on a solution to keep my chin/neck warm. I like Bill's suggestion of velcroing some polartech to the bottom of the helmet. I think I'll make that a project for the weekend :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 08:48:42 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4DmgO7005003; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:48:42 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4DmfNE004993; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:48:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Re: Kill the weathermen/women! Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:48:34 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0211040848349L.07826@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 04 November 2002 08:18, LindaT. wrote: > The trick to heated gear is that it has to be close to your skin. Too many > layers between the heat and skin reduces the effectiveness greatly. How > many layers did you have on?? > I had a long sleeved flannel shirt on, then the jacket liner. The leather jacket and orange vest was over the top of the liner. No liner for the gloves. > What size fuse blew and where? > The inline 15 amp fuse. I planned on hitting the Gerbing site to see if there was a FAQ. I have a second fuse that I can use but I also want to figure out why it blew. The tabs that are screwed to the battery terminals were sitting higher than I liked but the seat didn't seem to touch them when I put it back on the bike. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 09:42:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4EgeO7005390; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:42:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4EgcRj005380; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:42:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <008b01c28410$829bffc0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Carl Schelin" , "DC-CYCLES" References: <0211040848349L.07826@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Subject: Re: Kill the weathermen/women! Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:42:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Carl, I run the Gerbing jacket liner, gloves and socks via the 20-amp max. fused pigtail from Gerbing. No problems here through two winter riding seasons. Are you using the Heat-troller? Could be there's a short or defect somewhere in one of the garments or the Heat-troller. You might what to take all it back to Mike Vlahos (you did buy it from Mike didn't you?) and have it tested. This is from web site. Jacket liner (77 W) + gloves (22 W) + socks (22W) = 121/12 = ~10 amps at full tilt. (Actually a bit less than 10 amps since your alternator should put out 13-14 V at full honk.) Under normal usage you shouldn't be blowing fuses. Seconding what Linda said, I wear a light cotton long-sleeve t-shirt or silk winter undies (or a dress shirt for work) under the jacket liner. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl Schelin" To: "DC-CYCLES" Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: Re: Kill the weathermen/women! > On Monday 04 November 2002 08:18, LindaT. wrote: > > The trick to heated gear is that it has to be close to your skin. Too many > > layers between the heat and skin reduces the effectiveness greatly. How > > many layers did you have on?? > > > > I had a long sleeved flannel shirt on, then the jacket liner. The leather > jacket and orange vest was over the top of the liner. > > No liner for the gloves. > > > What size fuse blew and where? > > > > The inline 15 amp fuse. I planned on hitting the Gerbing site to see if there > was a FAQ. > > I have a second fuse that I can use but I also want to figure out why it > blew. The tabs that are screwed to the battery terminals were sitting higher > than I liked but the seat didn't seem to touch them when I put it back on the > bike. > > Carl > > -- > Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) > finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:11:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GBdO7006244; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:11:39 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4GBc4g006234; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:11:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:13:22 -0500 (EST) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: SPAM FS:Jeep Wrangler Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need to make room in the garage, so I'm selling my Wrangler. The Details: 1997 Wrangler Sport Hardtop Forest Green with Tan Top 4.0L Inline 6/5spd Manual with Dana 44 and 3.55 gearing Cloth Interior-Spice Color Scheme AM-FM Radio A/C 15x7 Grizzly Wheels Factory Center Console AM/FM Radio Mileage ~8k yep, 8xxx miles. Only mods are KC Daylighters and a Draw-Tite Hitch. I ordered this in March of 97 and it was deliverd in late may I think. The only problem is a cracked winshield, otherwise its mint. Its been garaged its entire life, never offroad. Never spent a nite outside in the rain. Never really drove it a lot, towed the Jet Ski to the lake a couple of times, drove it to work every once in a while, pretty much its been a garage queen. I'm asking $12500, which is 1/2 way between NADA retail and trade-in. Dan -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:21:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GLaO7006326; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:21:36 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4GLZql006316; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:21:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <000b01c2841e$8b861220$d961b141@roypc> Reply-To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: Subject: Porsche Fans? (Off Topic) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:23:42 -0500 Organization: CF&O MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 I finally purchased a new toy to use when the weather gets too cold to ride my FZ1. Specifically, I am the proud new owner of a restored 1973 Porsche 911T Targa. Does anyone know of a local qualified mechanic who has experience with older vintages like mine. Are there any other Porsche owners out there? Roy D. Turner, Esq. www.cfolaw.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:29:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GTjO7006378; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:29:45 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4GTjHJ006370; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:29:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 10:29:42 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Paying tolls Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rode up to Philadelphia on Saturday evening, then back home last night. This was my first ride of over 50 miles. Yow! It's cooold out there. I was very glad I'd borrowed a Widder vest from Matt Patton preparatory to buying it, because I was pretty dern chilly even with it cranked up to turkey-roasting levels. (Actually, on the way home I must not have made the connection at the vest quite tight enough, because I was feeling pain in my abdomen, and now there are two little burn marks there where the short-circuit must have run. Oops.) Anyway, on to the question: How do you all deal with paying tolls? I ended up spending a lot of time at the tollbooth taking off gloves, dragging out wallets, paying, getting receipts, etc... which tended to irritate the cagers behind me. Hmm. Is there a better way? Strap different toll amounts ($1 Harbor Tunnel, $4 MD tollroad, $2 DE tollroad) to the tank, then yank them off when you get to the booth? Other lessons learned: I need better gloves, and a balaclava, no doubt about it. Bought some thinsulate gloves and a scarf from Maryland House on my way back, but the scarf wouldn't stay put, and the extra gloves made it really hard to move my hands, and the hands still got cold. Hmm. Also, better boots wouldn't hurt, but I'm getting a mite tired of shipping things back and forth to New Enough. Any PG-county shops that sell Sidis? Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:30:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GUGO7006416; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:30:16 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4GUGp6006411; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:30:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021104163008.50692.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:30:08 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: SPAM FS:Jeep Wrangler To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Why own it then? Glenn --- dan wrote: never offroad. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:38:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GcYO7006583; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:38:34 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4GcXhk006567; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:38:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021104163831.17717.qmail@web11101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:38:31 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Paying tolls To: DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My normal M.O. (aside from when my Smart Tag thingy is valid) is to pull over on the shoulder just before the toll plaza, get out my money, and then proceed to the toll plaza with the money jammed between a couple of fingers or between hand and grip. I usually prefer to pay in dollar bills even when I have correct change because the bills are easier to handle. Toss the change in a tank bag or just pay for the guy behind you and play motorcycle goodwill ambassador. Chris Weaver --- Fish Flowers wrote: > Rode up to Philadelphia on Saturday evening, then > back home last > night. This was my first ride of over 50 miles. Yow! > It's cooold out > there. I was very glad I'd borrowed a Widder vest > from Matt Patton > preparatory to buying it, because I was pretty dern > chilly even with it > cranked up to turkey-roasting levels. (Actually, on > the way home I must > not have made the connection at the vest quite tight > enough, because I was > feeling pain in my abdomen, and now there are two > little burn marks there > where the short-circuit must have run. Oops.) > > Anyway, on to the question: How do you all deal with > paying tolls? I ended > up spending a lot of time at the tollbooth taking > off gloves, dragging out > wallets, paying, getting receipts, etc... which > tended to irritate the > cagers behind me. Hmm. Is there a better way? Strap > different toll amounts > ($1 Harbor Tunnel, $4 MD tollroad, $2 DE tollroad) > to the tank, then yank > them off when you get to the booth? > > Other lessons learned: I need better gloves, and a > balaclava, no doubt > about it. Bought some thinsulate gloves and a scarf > from Maryland House on > my way back, but the scarf wouldn't stay put, and > the extra gloves made it > really hard to move my hands, and the hands still > got cold. Hmm. Also, > better boots wouldn't hurt, but I'm getting a mite > tired of shipping > things back and forth to New Enough. Any PG-county > shops that sell Sidis? > > Fish. > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:47:55 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GltO7006692; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:47:55 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4Gltqk006684; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:47:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harley.turlik.net: dan owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:49:39 -0500 (EST) From: dan X-X-Sender: dan@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: SPAM FS:Jeep Wrangler In-Reply-To: <20021104163008.50692.qmail@web11504.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Made a good tow vehicle for boat ramps covered in moss. Used it a couple of times in the snow (they don't plow much in NC), cause I liked being able to take the top and doors off. My previous Wrangler and CJ spent extensive time off-road. There is no quicker way to turn a nice vehicle into a total POS than going off road, unless you are being a pussy about it and just staying on dirt roads. I also have Tundra 4x4, BUT mainly because I could afford to buy it and do whatever the hell I wanted with it. Dan On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Glenn Dysart wrote: > Why own it then? > > Glenn > > --- dan wrote: > > never offroad. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now > http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ > -- From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:47:57 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GlvO7006720; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:47:57 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4GlvWU006715; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:47:57 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Subject: Re: Porsche Fans? (Off Topic) From: Brian Roach To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <000b01c2841e$8b861220$d961b141@roypc> References: <000b01c2841e$8b861220$d961b141@roypc> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2-5mdk Date: 04 Nov 2002 11:47:49 -0500 Message-Id: <1036428469.20642.453.camel@www.dcc-racing.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Intersport in Tyson's corner. They're in the strip mall that sits between Tyco Road and Spring Hill about 1/4 mile off rt. 7. They are a Porsche performance shop, and are great to deal with. They do everything from vintage (I have a '67) to SCCA and 24hr race cars. Charlie is a great mechanic and has been wrenching on Porsches for 20 years. If you happen to go by, tell Omar (the owner) I sent ya... it prob won't improve my bill in any way, but karma points are always good :) - Roach On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 11:23, Roy D. Turner, Esq. wrote: > I finally purchased a new toy to use when the weather gets too cold to ride > my FZ1. Specifically, I am the proud new owner of a restored 1973 Porsche > 911T Targa. Does anyone know of a local qualified mechanic who has > experience with older vintages like mine. Are there any other Porsche > owners out there? > > Roy D. Turner, Esq. > www.cfolaw.com > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:49:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GnjO7006765; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:49:45 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4Gnj51006755; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:49:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <005b01c28422$4277d7e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Fish Flowers" , "DC-Cycles" References: Subject: Re: Paying tolls Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:48:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Three syllables - E Z Pass. You even get a discount in Delaware for using it: $1.25 as opposed to $2.00. Clinton Cycles carries Sidis, no? Automated toll collection is the biker's friend. Paul in DC 95 VFR750 - 86 VF500F - IBA # 12143 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fish Flowers" To: "DC-Cycles" Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:29 AM Subject: Paying tolls > Anyway, on to the question: How do you all deal with paying tolls? I ended > up spending a lot of time at the tollbooth taking off gloves, dragging out > wallets, paying, getting receipts, etc... which tended to irritate the > cagers behind me. ... From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:56:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GukO7006840; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:56:46 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4GukSi006832; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:56:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021104165639.26009.qmail@web40912.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:56:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Paying tolls To: DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Anyway, on to the question: How do you all deal with paying tolls? I ended > up spending a lot of time at the tollbooth taking off gloves, dragging out > wallets, paying, getting receipts, etc... which tended to irritate the > cagers behind me. Hmm. Is there a better way? Strap different toll amounts > ($1 Harbor Tunnel, $4 MD tollroad, $2 DE tollroad) to the tank, then yank > them off when you get to the booth? I use an EZ-Pass so I never even have to stop when going up to NY or CT. It works at all of the tolls that you mention. Back in the days before EZPass though, I would get a stack of good $1 bills (the stiff almost new ones, not older ones that are harder to handle) and put those in my sleeve pocket. If I was doing a road that had a bunch of coin tolls (like the Garden State Parkway) I would put a bunch of quarters and dimes in an empty 35 mm film container, and hand it to the toll attendant at each toll. Each time, they would open it up, show me that they took 35 cents, then hand it back to me. Worked out pretty well. If I did a toll road that used a "ticket" system, I usually stopped at a rest stop on the way. I'd take a paperclip, and attach exact change to the ticket, and hand the whole thing to the toll taker. Still, EZ-Pass rules. Some places (DE, NY Bridges) even have discounts for using the EZ Pass, and additional discounts for motorcycles that are automatically taken with the EZ-Pass. Louis __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 11:58:16 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4GwGO7006893; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:58:16 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4GwGsl006885; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:58:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Paying tolls Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:58:07 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0211041158079M.07826@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 04 November 2002 11:29, Fish Flowers wrote: > Anyway, on to the question: How do you all deal with paying tolls? I ended > up spending a lot of time at the tollbooth taking off gloves, dragging out > wallets, paying, getting receipts, etc... which tended to irritate the > cagers behind me. Hmm. Is there a better way? Strap different toll amounts > ($1 Harbor Tunnel, $4 MD tollroad, $2 DE tollroad) to the tank, then yank > them off when you get to the booth? > When I was down in Florida I just did what I had to do. Pull off gloves, get money out, give money, put wallet away, put gloves back on. The cagers found out that they shouldn't come behind me at a booth. After the second booth, I kept the wallet in the tank bag for easy access. > Other lessons learned: I need better gloves, and a balaclava, no doubt > about it. Bought some thinsulate gloves and a scarf from Maryland House on > my way back, but the scarf wouldn't stay put, and the extra gloves made it > really hard to move my hands, and the hands still got cold. Hmm. Also, > better boots wouldn't hurt, but I'm getting a mite tired of shipping > things back and forth to New Enough. Any PG-county shops that sell Sidis? > I start with one end of the scarf, run it behind my neck, straighten it out and put it on my chin, run the free end around my neck again (so I have two short ends tucked in my jacket) and then cinch the helmet strap over the scarf. If you don't have a full face helmet then you should get the ski mask type. I'm thinking it works better with the 3/4 helmet instead of the full face. > Fish. Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:00:40 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4H0eO7006993; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:00:40 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4H0cun006981; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:00:38 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021104165926.37039.qmail@web14006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 08:59:26 -0800 (PST) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Paying tolls To: Paul Wilson , Fish Flowers , DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: <005b01c28422$4277d7e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Paul Wilson wrote: > Automated toll collection is the biker's friend. I disagree. Bikes shouldn't be charged a toll. We don't cause near the wear on the roads that other vehicles do. We already pay at least our fair share through the fuel tax. Leon. EX250 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:01:18 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4H1HO7007044; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:01:17 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4H1HFU007038; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:01:17 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:01:10 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: Paul Wilson cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Paying tolls In-Reply-To: <005b01c28422$4277d7e0$bb82fea9@palladio1> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Paul Wilson wrote: > Three syllables - E Z Pass. You even get a discount in Delaware for > using it: $1.25 as opposed to $2.00. Hmm. No windshield to attach it to, though. (I carry and use EZPass in my cage -- could I use the same unit on the motorcycle, if I could figure out a way to attach it?) > Clinton Cycles carries Sidis, no? Dunno. Where is it? Fish. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:06:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4H6ZO7007474; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:06:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4H6ZVU007464; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:06:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <3DC6A8B9.A966DCE6@tasam.com> Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:04:57 -0500 From: Skip Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Louis F. Caplan" CC: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Paying tolls References: <20021104165639.26009.qmail@web40912.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Louis F. Caplan" wrote: > > > Anyway, on to the question: How do you all deal with paying tolls? I ended > > up spending a lot of time at the tollbooth taking off gloves, dragging out > > wallets, paying, getting receipts, etc... which tended to irritate the > > cagers behind me. Hmm. Is there a better way? Strap different toll amounts > > ($1 Harbor Tunnel, $4 MD tollroad, $2 DE tollroad) to the tank, then yank > > them off when you get to the booth? > > I use an EZ-Pass so I never even have to stop when going up to NY or CT. It > works at all of the tolls that you mention. [snip] does the ez-pass I use on the Dulles toll road work on those tolls? Skip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:15:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4HFZO7007670; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:15:35 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4HFXfi007658; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:15:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:20:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Paying tolls In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Fish Flowers wrote: > > Anyway, on to the question: How do you all deal with paying tolls? I ended I found that putting some dollar bills right inside my tank bag worked pretty well. If they're right in front, I can get to them quickly, without removing gloves. Any change gets dumped back in the same spot. -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:18:19 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4HIJO7007829; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:18:19 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4HIJXH007822; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:18:19 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:23:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel H. Brown" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Paying tolls In-Reply-To: <3DC6A8B9.A966DCE6@tasam.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Skip Smith wrote: > > > does the ez-pass I use on the Dulles toll road work on those tolls? > > No. (goddamndullestollroaduselessgrrrrrr) -- Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:21:08 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4HL8O7007880; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:21:08 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4HL8XZ007872; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:21:08 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021104172106.81630.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:21:06 -0800 (PST) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: Paying tolls To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Do you have a tank bag? Mine works fine if I put the pass in the map pocket and slide it up front. Glenn --- Fish Flowers wrote: > Hmm. No windshield to attach it to, though. (I carry > and use EZPass in my > cage -- could I use the same unit on the motorcycle, > if I could figure out > a way to attach it?) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:21:27 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4HLRO7007910; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:21:27 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4HLRwh007904; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:21:27 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021104172120.9990.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:21:20 -0800 (PST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Paying tolls To: DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: <3DC6A8B9.A966DCE6@tasam.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > does the ez-pass I use on the Dulles toll road work on those tolls? Unfortunately the VA authorities felt it was not benefitial to join the EZ Pass Consortium. They felt that those using the pass on the Dulles Toll Road, in Richmond, and in (I think) Norfolk were mostly communters. The EZPass is more for people who are traveling more. I can't say that I agree with them. Ah well. Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Fairfax, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:23:39 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4HNdO7007956; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:23:39 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4HNdrv007948; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:23:39 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <20021104172332.10471.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 09:23:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Paying tolls To: DC-Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Three syllables - E Z Pass. You even get a discount in Delaware for > > using it: $1.25 as opposed to $2.00. > > Hmm. No windshield to attach it to, though. (I carry and use EZPass in my > cage -- could I use the same unit on the motorcycle, if I could figure out > a way to attach it?) First off, don't use the same unit, you can request a second unit programmed for a motorcycle (this way it recognizes your "shape" and you get moto-discounts when applicable). Secondly, you don't need a windshield. People have put them in various locations. I have a lockable glove box on my Connie, and put the EZPass under the cover, it works fine there. Others put them in their tank bag's map pocket. Some put them in their jackets, facing out. Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Fairfax, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://www.geocities.com/nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:29:22 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4HTMO7008010; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:29:22 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4HTL3v008000; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:29:21 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f X-Authentication-Warning: harper.uchicago.edu: fish owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 11:29:19 -0600 (CST) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Paying tolls In-Reply-To: <20021104172332.10471.qmail@web40906.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: X-No-Ahbou: yes X-No-Archive: yes Approved: vi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Okay, it sounds like EZ-Pass is the way to go. If I end up doing much more riding on those roads I'll have to order a motorcycle unit. (And a tankbag to put it in... no windshield, no tankbag, no outer jacket pockets, no saddlebags... I like to call it "no-frills" riding, but basically it's just "no-money-for-neat-toys" riding. ) At least I have a train ticket back to Philly for this evening, so I don't have to freeze my butt off again. Not sure I could take the ride three days in a row, especially as I seem to be getting sick. Blah. Fish. perfect timing From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:32:34 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4HWYO7008054; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:32:34 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4HWXIP008045; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:32:33 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f From: Carl Schelin Organization: NASA Headquarters To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Paying tolls Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:32:26 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0211041232269Q.07826@unixgod.hq.nasa.gov> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Monday 04 November 2002 12:29, Fish Flowers wrote: > > At least I have a train ticket back to Philly for this evening, so I don't > have to freeze my butt off again. Not sure I could take the ride three > days in a row, especially as I seem to be getting sick. Blah. > Then you should definately take the ride again. Don't you know that riding the bike kills the germs? > Fish. > perfect timing Carl -- Carl Schelin (BOFH, Badlife, DNRC, Sun CSA/CNA, Cisco CNA/CNP, '02 FXSTI) finger cschelin@XXXXXX for phone and address From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon Nov 4 12:34:26 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.meretrix.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gA4HYQO7008095; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:34:26 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id gA4HYQWj008090; Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:34:26 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: dirty.meretrix.com: slist set sender to dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX using -f Message-ID: <6851CF14DA5455469A22AAFB019EAB360624AF@gothic.answerlogic.com> From: Han Park To: "'Brian Roach'" , "Roy D. Turner, Esq." Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Porsche Fans? (Off Topic) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 12:34:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain I've used ASG in Merrifield and RPM in Springfield. ASG is more expensive in my experience, but they are very thorough and customer focused. Personally I would go with RPM because I think they offer the best value/price ratio. Both shops have experience with race cars and street cars. ASG actually builds a few 911's which run in the ALMS I believe (well they were in this year's DC race). Go to the monthly PCA meetings if you'd like to meet other Porsche owners and get opinions. han > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Roach [mailto:roach@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:48 AM > To: Roy D. Turner, Esq. > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Porsche Fans? (Off Topic) > >