From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 00:10:45 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27811 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 00:10:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id AAA09203 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 00:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE9366.EF450DE0@XXXXXX>; Sat, 1 May 1999 00:09:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'dcc'" Subject: find a good machinist... (was Switching from clip-ons to tubular bars) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 00:09:50 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you are in NOVA, and you need a machine shop, you should check out RBM machine. They are off 606 just past 28. They are real nice folks. Rob (not the "R" in "RBM") reamed some frame parts on the Triumph that had powder coating in them (triple clamps, swing arm pivots), and tapped some threaded holes. He showed me a picture of a custom Hawgley that he worked on, and said that the triple clamps were made there. Another guy did some welding for me on another occasion. Minimum shop rate is $30. RBM Machine 44964 Underwood Ln # A, Sterling, VA 20166-2306 Phone: (703)435-3276 Rich (not affiliated with RBM) '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling --- JOE NAGY wrote: First thing to do is talk to Storz and see if they make a kit for your bike. www.storzperf.com. Failing that, find a good machinist, it sure looks do-able to me. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 00:13:22 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA27899 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 00:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id AAA09401 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 00:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE9367.52CF3B60@XXXXXX>; Sat, 1 May 1999 00:12:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'dcc'" Subject: RE: EX 500 for sale cheap Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 00:12:37 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just curious... Did anyone call about this bike? Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville ''99 Enfield Bullet Sterling From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'dcc'" Subject: EX 500 for sale cheap Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 22:20:33 -0400 A friend of a friend is selling an EX500. This is what I know: price: "Around a grand," my friend said year: "Around a '94" condition: "Scuffed on one side, but good other than that" I saw a picture of it, and it looked very good. Apparently that was the side without the "scuff." And that is *all* I know about it. If interested, call Dawn at 703-661-0150 Rich ''99 Enfield Bullet (did you see me fiddling with it on the side of the road on 7 in Leesburg tonight?) '78 Triumph Bonneville Sterling From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 00:59:15 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA28553 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 00:59:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (14430) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2OYQa16141 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 00:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <9519ccc0.245be411@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 00:58:57 EDT Subject: Directions to Todd's....using Ffx cnty pkwy or Anita, what time are you leaving? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 When we had the last gathering at Todd's.....I can't recall the exact direction to his place if I'm coming from the west..(Loudoun) If anyone can post those or if Anita can tell me when/where she's leaving Sterling. Thanks. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 11:33:23 1999 Return-Path: sesent@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10589 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 11:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hfzzv (client-151-196-125-103.bellatlantic.net [151.196.125.103]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA05865 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 11:36:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003301be93e6$97ab4e20$4308fea9@hfzzv> From: "Franz Muller" To: Subject: **SUNDAY, MAY 2 RIDE** Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:23:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01BE93C5.0FD1CA40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BE93C5.0FD1CA40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable LOCH RAVEN RESERVOIR & GUNPOWDER STATE PARK Is any one planning to attend this ride?? ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BE93C5.0FD1CA40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
LOCH RAVEN RESERVOIR & GUNPOWDER STATE PARK
 
 
Is any one planning to attend this=20 ride??
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BE93C5.0FD1CA40-- From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 13:37:08 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12130 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 13:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (4530) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id kXOHa20980; Sat, 1 May 1999 13:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 13:35:10 EDT Subject: Re: **SUNDAY, MAY 2 RIDE** To: sesent@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Sounds like a fun trip to me. I'm going to try to make it, but it depends on how well I sleep tonite. ;) Robert "Zzzzzz" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 15:01:48 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13333 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 15:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA17308 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 15:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000e01be9405$6deabc00$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: Subject: Sunday rides... Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 15:04:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE93E3.E6639DE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE93E3.E6639DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey folks... Jeannette and I are wondering about what's going on for = tomorrow. Any local rides happening? Thanks, Tom '86 VFR750 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE93E3.E6639DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey folks... Jeannette and I are wondering about = what's going=20 on for tomorrow.  Any local rides happening?
 
Thanks,
Tom
'86 VFR750
 
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE93E3.E6639DE0-- From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 15:14:32 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (web803.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.63]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA13501 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 15:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990501191935.26896.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.220.25.55] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 01 May 1999 12:19:35 PDT Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 12:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Fairfax Country crackdown??? To: "DC Cycles" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Got this from a different list. I can't vouch for it's veracity, though. Dale >........................... > > Free at last. > >Well, folks... how ya been? > >Lemme tell ya, jail is a boring f*ckin place. >Whatever you may choose to do, if it includes driving on a suspended >license, don't do it in Fairfax County, VA. > >I just got done with 90 days. A couple of other guys have between >90 days and a year. (for multiple convictions) (( mostly for failur to >pay fines and the like) > >Fairfax County just built a new jail with 880 new cells. Guess who those >880 new cells are for? If you guessed non-violent offenders, you guessed >right. Minor drug charges (possesion, no intent), traffic offenders >(reckless driving, speeding, no OL, suspended/revoked OL), dumbasses >(DUI/DWI), and deadbeat dads (failure to pay child support). That's who. > >Virginia has decided that they are not going to play game swith traffic >offenders any more. They are cracking down hard. Be carefull if you >wanna ride here and you have a qeustionable license. And I know that some >of you do (did). > >I will get my remaining fines paid off next week, and then will see about >when I can get my license back. Hopefully it won't be too bad. They did >hit me with Habitual Offender status, since I have had my license >suspended before for Failure to Pay Fines. > >Any way. I am free. During this time, the Sabre went away. Gone. >I sitll have the Virago, and will make doo looking at it, until I can get >my license back. Them I am gonna find a magna. The more reclined riding >position doesn't make me wanna go as fast. :) > >Cheers, > >-Tim === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 16:21:28 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA14408 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 16:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA04464 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 16:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001401be9410$8939b280$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: =?iso-8859-1?B?REOgQ3ljbGVz?= References: <19990501191935.26896.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Fairfax Country crackdown??? Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sounds like the real thing... another lurking lister of ours found out about that during their court dealings. The judge was evidently a "hanging judge" and was sending folks to the pokey for just about everything. The judge had a lady with children there and was in for driving on a suspended. He said, "I hope you have someone to watch them for the evening because you're staying here with us. Fotunately, the D.A. was reasonable (another failure to pay fines bullshit thing) and a deal was struck. -Tom '86 VFR750 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Horstman To: DC Cycles Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 3:19 PM Subject: Fairfax Country crackdown??? > Got this from a different list. I can't > vouch for it's veracity, though. > > Dale > > >........................... > > > > Free at last. > > > >Well, folks... how ya been? > > > >Lemme tell ya, jail is a boring f*ckin place. > >Whatever you may choose to do, if it includes driving on a suspended > >license, don't do it in Fairfax County, VA. > > > >I just got done with 90 days. A couple of other guys have between > >90 days and a year. (for multiple convictions) (( mostly for failur > to > >pay fines and the like) > > > >Fairfax County just built a new jail with 880 new cells. Guess who > those > >880 new cells are for? If you guessed non-violent offenders, you > guessed > >right. Minor drug charges (possesion, no intent), traffic offenders > >(reckless driving, speeding, no OL, suspended/revoked OL), dumbasses > >(DUI/DWI), and deadbeat dads (failure to pay child support). That's > who. > > > >Virginia has decided that they are not going to play game swith > traffic > >offenders any more. They are cracking down hard. Be carefull if you > >wanna ride here and you have a qeustionable license. And I know that > some > >of you do (did). > > > >I will get my remaining fines paid off next week, and then will see > about > >when I can get my license back. Hopefully it won't be too bad. They > did > >hit me with Habitual Offender status, since I have had my license > >suspended before for Failure to Pay Fines. > > > >Any way. I am free. During this time, the Sabre went away. Gone. > >I sitll have the Virago, and will make doo looking at it, until I can > get > >my license back. Them I am gonna find a magna. The more reclined > riding > >position doesn't make me wanna go as fast. :) > > > >Cheers, > > > >-Tim > === > Dale Horstman (The Horkster) > the_horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > > "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet > sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 16:23:26 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA14418 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA11308 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA25318 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07928 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust002.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.2]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA31231 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 16:23:57 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990501162300.006a2cec@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 16:23:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: First ride report for Saturday Ride. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Observations. 18 riders showed up at Todd's for donuts Saturday morning. Todd has a lot of bikes in his garage. Everyone but Ursulina had a sport bike. There weren't any Suzuki's. Having a GPS with the route already in it doesn't prevent wrong turns. The only twins that I remember were two little Kawasaki's, a BMW R1100 (RT?) and a Ducati 900 - it was new, yellow and looked expensive. I had fun, and was responsible for at least one of the U-turns. The John Deere decals are on order, it won't be a generic bike next time. Leon. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 18:04:16 1999 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from brap-3.cais.net (brap-3.cais.net [205.252.14.37]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15690 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from horse4 (dynamic239.cl8.cais.net [205.177.20.239]) by brap-3.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA19857 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000901be93b9$c4c91d60$ef14b1cd@horse4> From: "Mike B." To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Thanx Anita, Sean, -N- Todd Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 06:02:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE9398.3BF3D460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE9398.3BF3D460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wanted to thank Anita for leading a nice ride today. I hope = everyone made it home unscathed ! Thanx to sean for the T-shirts! Nice new Bike! And thanks Todd for Playing distribution point and Providing Donuts = even! Mike B. 98 ZX 900R ICQ # 16801250 ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE9398.3BF3D460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just wanted to thank Anita for leading a nice ride = today. I=20 hope everyone made it home unscathed !
Thanx to sean for the T-shirts! Nice new = Bike!
And thanks Todd for Playing distribution point and = Providing=20 Donuts even!
 
Mike B.
98 ZX 900R
ICQ #=20 16801250
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE9398.3BF3D460-- From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 18:06:34 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15781 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA12213 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.199.178]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA27663 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:06:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA10963 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:06:24 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma010961; Sat, 1 May 99 18:06:16 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990501173246.009953e0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 18:06:14 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Bought and almost sold.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When into Warrenton and just like Danny said...two used VFR 750s sat before me. I bought the '97 with 12k miles. Got in at 2:00. Got out at 5:00. Already had 2 calls about the Nighthawk, hope to sell it tomorrow ;-) MT _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 18:13:14 1999 Return-Path: ursulina@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA15858 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:13:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-117-142.s142.tnt12.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.117.142]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA09809 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003e01be9438$9054ab60$8e75accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: Thanx Anita, Sean, -N- Todd Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 18:10:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE93FD.E34DFAA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE93FD.E34DFAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I second that! Great ride. Great roads. Yummy lunch. Great company! = Anita, thanks again!! - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: Mike B. To: DC-Cycles Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 3:09 PM Subject: Thanx Anita, Sean, -N- Todd =20 =20 Just wanted to thank Anita for leading a nice ride today. I hope = everyone made it home unscathed ! Thanx to sean for the T-shirts! Nice new Bike! And thanks Todd for Playing distribution point and Providing Donuts = even! =20 Mike B. 98 ZX 900R ICQ # 16801250 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE93FD.E34DFAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I second = that!  Great=20 ride.  Great roads.  Yummy lunch.  Great company!  = Anita,=20 thanks again!!

- -=20 Ursulina
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Mike B. <wowbager@XXXXXX>
To:=20 DC-Cycles <dc-cycles@XXXXXX>Date:=20 Saturday, May 01, 1999 3:09 PM
Subject: Thanx Anita, = Sean, -N-=20 Todd

Just wanted to thank Anita for leading a nice = ride today.=20 I hope everyone made it home unscathed !
Thanx to sean for the T-shirts! Nice new=20 Bike!
And thanks Todd for Playing distribution point = and=20 Providing Donuts even!
 
Mike B.
98 ZX 900R
ICQ #=20 16801250
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BE93FD.E34DFAA0-- From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 18:53:34 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16360 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-31.s31.as1.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.31]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id SAA10777; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:53:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00f701be9425$834cc5a0$1f6daccf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: , "Mike T" References: <4.1.19990501173246.009953e0@www.troutman.org> Subject: Re: Bought and almost sold.... Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 18:54:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Mike, That is cool! I am sorry I wasn't around to meet you, I had to work at Gold Cup today to raise money for the school where I teach and it took a lot longer that I was told (until 6:00). Anyway, I'm glad you found a bike and hope you feel like you got a good deal. The people at Blalock are pretty decent to deal with. LET'S RIDE! :) Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike T To: Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 6:06 PM Subject: Bought and almost sold.... > When into Warrenton and just like Danny said...two used VFR 750s sat before > me. I bought the '97 with 12k miles. Got in at 2:00. Got out at 5:00. > Already had 2 calls about the Nighthawk, hope to sell it tomorrow ;-) > > MT > > _____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > > From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 18:55:47 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16373 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s40.wizard.net [206.161.15.70]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA11364; Sat, 1 May 1999 18:55:53 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Leon Begeman" Cc: Subject: RE: First ride report for Saturday Ride. Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 18:59:47 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01be9426$4f73a680$460fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990501162300.006a2cec@illuminet.net> Importance: Normal Let's see... what to add... well, five of us made it to Front Royal for lunch.. myself, Ursulina, Mike B., Herb, and John Mullins. Late lunch though... didn't get there until after 3:00 pm. The other folks headed back at different points to meet other obligations.. no mishaps that I know of! Herb was on his Magna in the group, so Ursulina didn't have the only cruiser! I'm still getting the hang of using the GPS, okay? Sheesh! :-) Besides, it's not a REAL group ride if there isn't at least one u-turn! I can't believe I was ever intimidated by an XT350 (my old bike, now Todd's). Todd does have a lot of bikes in his garage! Leed's Manor Road (688) is still my favorite road, and I only scared myself 2x. Don't know how many times I scared the people behind me! :-) The bugs seem bigger this year.. splat... ick! Great ride all around... next one will probably be Memorial Day weekend so I'll have to come up with a new and exciting route by then! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 19:27:31 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16851 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 19:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user50.anent.com [208.195.115.50]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA02872 for ; Sat, 01 May 1999 19:26:39 -0400 Message-ID: <004b01be942a$1f7a5240$3273c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: Thanx Anita, Sean, -N- Todd Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:27:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE9408.96AB23C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE9408.96AB23C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I had a great time also. 688 is a blast. It's always great to see = everyone. I hope Todd's dirt bike day was as good as ours! >Just wanted to thank Anita for leading a nice ride today. I hope = everyone made it home >unscathed! >Thanx to sean for the T-shirts! Nice new Bike! >And thanks Todd for Playing distribution point and Providing Donuts = even! >=20 >Mike B. >98 ZX 900R >ICQ # 16801250 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE9408.96AB23C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, I had a great time = also. 688=20 is a blast. It's always great to see everyone. I hope Todd's dirt bike = day was=20 as good as ours!
 
 
>Just wanted to thank Anita for leading a nice = ride today.=20 I hope everyone made it home >unscathed!
>Thanx to sean for the T-shirts! Nice new=20 Bike!
>And thanks Todd for Playing distribution point = and=20 Providing Donuts even!
> 
>Mike B.
>98 ZX = 900R
>ICQ=20 # 16801250
------=_NextPart_000_0048_01BE9408.96AB23C0-- From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 19:36:58 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17000 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 19:36:57 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (14372) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cKGHa20662; Sat, 1 May 1999 19:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <519aa2f8.245ce9b2@aol.com> Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:35:14 EDT Subject: Re: First ride report for Saturday Ride. To: 2xracers@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 I saw you guys just outside of Front Royal. I was gassing up at the Mobil station on the left before the intersection, just off of I-66 (not sure of the route number). I heard the bikes and looked up to see Anita, Ursulina, and a few others trailing. Bummer that I couldn't make it, but I had an FAA exam today (I passed!!). Ride on! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 20:53:08 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17906 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 20:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FB2007JWYEIP9@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 2 May 1999 00:51:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id AAA31163; Sun, 02 May 1999 00:51:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.44.172.169]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990502005227.TTRZ10050@toddnt>; Sat, 01 May 1999 19:52:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 20:49:55 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Thanx Anita, Sean, -N- Todd In-reply-to: <004b01be942a$1f7a5240$3273c3d0@bruce> To: Bruce Norton , DC-Cycles Message-id: <001601be9435$b1d338e0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Bruce Norton wrote: Yes, I had a great time also. 688 is a blast. It's always great to see everyone. I hope Todd's dirt bike day was as good as ours! ------------------- We had a great time out today. I rode with Kirk Roy and his brother Daryl. Kirk is fortunate to have such an excellent dirt riding area only 3 miles from his house! There are at least 4 distinct wall climbing style areas, a network of tight, twisty, and sometimes muddy trails and a whole bunch of opened areas. If I had to guess I'd say the whole area covers around 12 square miles. That being said, we only put about 30 miles on the bikes today over a 2.5 hour period. What a f-ing blast! Crashes: Me - two and many close calls Daryl(crash king) - at least three that I saw, one bad one into Kirk at relatively high speed Kirk - just the one Daryl caused This was my first "real" dirt riding experience and I'm amazed I don't have any scrapes or broken bones. Some of the hills we were climbing were a good 30-40 feet high and at close to 60 degrees angle. At one point we were competing for how much distance in air we could get before hitting the next berm/hill. I had the lead until crazy Daryl went sky high into/onto the berm and almost into a little pine next to the trail. Excellent day, and thanks Kirk and Daryl for inviting me. Definitely want to do it again....boy am I sore... :) Todd From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 20:52:34 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17903 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 20:52:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FB2007GNYEBR3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 2 May 1999 00:51:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id AAA27585 for ; Sun, 02 May 1999 00:51:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.44.172.169]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990502005220.TTRV10050@toddnt> for ; Sat, 01 May 1999 19:52:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 20:49:48 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: FW: updates for crow bar block party To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <001401be9435$adf08070$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal FYI folks. I plan to attend via public transportation ;) Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Staff of Crow Bar [mailto:crowbar@XXXXXX] > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 2:28 PM > To: Todd Peer > Subject: updates for crow bar block party > > > UPDATES FOR THE BLOCK PARTY > > The location has been confirmed. This year we will use 2 blocks. > 20th street between K & I streets, and I street between 19th & > 20th streets > (more bike parking). > This is just across K street from the old bar. > > BANDS SO FAR... > > Bobby Parker > Robert Lighthouse (Washington Post just did an article on him) > Memphis Gold > > The new web page for the party will be up soon so check it out at > http://www.crowbardc.com Till next...thanks for your support Bill Spieler From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 20:52:32 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17901 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 20:52:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FB2007GHYE5R3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 2 May 1999 00:51:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id AAA13329 for ; Sun, 02 May 1999 00:48:20 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.44.172.169]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990502005214.TTRQ10050@toddnt> for ; Sat, 01 May 1999 19:52:14 -0500 Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 20:49:41 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: FW: Jail! To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <001201be9435$a9d21e90$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Wonder what the time is for 140mph speeding fine. He, he, he. Todd > *** From a different MC list !! > ........................... > > Free at last. > > Well, folks... how ya been? > > Lemme tell ya, jail is a boring f*ckin place. > Whatever you may choose to do, if it includes driving on a suspended > license, don't do it in Fairfax County, VA. > > I just got done with 90 days. A couple of other guys have between > 90 days and a year. (for multiple convictions) (( mostly for failur to > pay fines and the like) > > Fairfax County just built a new jail with 880 new cells. Guess who those > 880 new cells are for? If you guessed non-violent offenders, you guessed > right. Minor drug charges (possesion, no intent), traffic offenders > (reckless driving, speeding, no OL, suspended/revoked OL), dumbasses > (DUI/DWI), and deadbeat dads (failure to pay child support). That's who. > > Virginia has decided that they are not going to play game swith traffic > offenders any more. They are cracking down hard. Be carefull if you > wanna ride here and you have a qeustionable license. And I know that some > of you do (did). > > I will get my remaining fines paid off next week, and then will see about > when I can get my license back. Hopefully it won't be too bad. They did > hit me with Habitual Offender status, since I have had my license > suspended before for Failure to Pay Fines. > > Any way. I am free. During this time, the Sabre went away. Gone. > I sitll have the Virago, and will make doo looking at it, until I can get > my license back. Them I am gonna find a magna. The more reclined riding > position doesn't make me wanna go as fast. :) > > Cheers, > > -Tim > From dc-cycles-request Sat May 1 22:23:03 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19005 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 22:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-154.s27.as3.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.154]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA24680 for ; Sat, 1 May 1999 22:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001901be9442$e853a1e0$9a4daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: YSR Racing Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 22:24:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 On Sunday is the first Yamaha YSR racing this year. Practice starts at 10am and the racing starts at 1130. The track is near Frederick in the town of Monrovia next to the 75/80 Dragstrip. Directions can be found at http://www.teamcalamari.com/dox/ertkmd.html. I plan on riding up and spending the day. Hopefully I'll see some fellow DCCycle members . See Ya, Brian N 96 Yamaha FZR600 From dc-cycles-request Sun May 2 07:54:23 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA28394 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 07:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA11426 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 07:54:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 07:54:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Subject: Dirt, was RE: Thanx Anita, Sean, -N- Todd In-Reply-To: <001601be9435$b1d338e0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 1 May 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > Kirk is fortunate to have such an excellent dirt riding area only 3 > miles from his house! Shhh! Besides, there's probably one close to your house as well. > Crashes: > Me - two and many close calls > Daryl(crash king) - at least three that I saw, one bad one into Kirk at > relatively high speed > Kirk - just the one Daryl caused Superior skills? Or just the fact that I was the only one out there with real knobbies? Maybe both! :) I think Darrell's getting well past the point that the street oriented tires are a real hindrance. He needs some other tires. Oh, and for the record one of his crashes was really just falling down. We've started separating real crashes (which he had two yesterday and only three total since we've returned to dirt riding) from falling down (which both of us have done countless times and is probably what you were doing). I suspect he'll be favoring crashes until he replaces those tires... Todd's tires are even more street oriented. It won't be long before your speed and tire grip are at odds with one another and you too can add legitimate crashes to your repertoire! :) > At one point we were competing for how much distance in air we could > get before hitting the next berm/hill. So THAT's what you guys were doing... Folks, picture this - two guys on fairly heavy dirt bikes (both XT350s) jumping for distance! :) > Excellent day, and thanks Kirk and Daryl for inviting me. Definitely > want to do it again....boy am I sore... :) Yep, but not as sore as Darrell. His left knee was swollen to about the size of a grapefruit. It started hurting about 8:00pm last night and I had him in the ER by 9:00. This was several hours after we'd finished riding. Hopefully percoset and a short period of rest will take care of it. Nothing was broken. The armor goes back into my pants - it's not hot enough out that I want to chance an experience with something like that. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Sun May 2 09:24:36 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29542 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 09:24:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-182.s55.as3.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.182]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id JAA06213; Sun, 2 May 1999 09:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001b01be949f$34b8f4c0$b66daccf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: , "Thomas and Jeannette" References: <000e01be9405$6deabc00$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: Sunday rides... Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 09:25:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE947D.AC9AC6C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE947D.AC9AC6C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys, Would you be interested in a couple hour trip this afternoon? Say meet = up about 12:30 or so? I have some route ideas or we could use one you = know or want to do. I have church until 11:45 or so and then I am free = the rest of the day. Let me know. I am not trying to infringe on the ride being planned by LilBkrBabe / = Scott / Wendy, they are just pretty far away and the timing is not = possible for me to make. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..."=20 1 Samuel 2:30 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Thomas and Jeannette=20 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX=20 Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 3:04 PM Subject: Sunday rides... Hey folks... Jeannette and I are wondering about what's going on for = tomorrow. Any local rides happening? Thanks, Tom '86 VFR750 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE947D.AC9AC6C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey guys,
 
Would you be interested in a couple = hour trip this=20 afternoon? Say meet up about 12:30 or so? I have some route ideas or we = could=20 use one you know or want to do. I have church until 11:45 or so and then = I am=20 free the rest of the day. Let me know.
 
I am not trying to infringe on the ride = being=20 planned by LilBkrBabe / Scott / Wendy, they are just pretty far away and = the=20 timing is not possible for me to make.
 
Danny
'99 VFR
"...Those who honor me, I will honor,..."=20
           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;   =20 1 Samuel 2:30
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Thomas=20 and Jeannette
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 = 3:04=20 PM
Subject: Sunday rides...

Hey folks... Jeannette and I are wondering about = what's=20 going on for tomorrow.  Any local rides happening?
 
Thanks,
Tom
'86 VFR750
 
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE947D.AC9AC6C0-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 2 14:42:53 1999 Return-Path: okan1262@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03854 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 14:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-36-215.s215.tnt6.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-36-215.s215.tnt6.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.36.215]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA02676 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 14:44:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.erols.com: 207-172-36-215.s215.tnt6.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.36.215] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <372C9DFD.B4A@erols.com> Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 14:48:30 -0400 From: Okan Seremetoglu Reply-To: okan1262@XXXXXX Organization: The American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Shipping Overseas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys; I want to ship my motorcycle overseas and I don't know how I can do it. I see those new motorcycle boxes at colemanpower but I don't know where I can find those boxes. Also I would want to ship it at a fair price. Anyone knows a fairly priced cargo shipper??? Okan 98 F3 From dc-cycles-request Sun May 2 14:48:01 1999 Return-Path: fwegerich@XXXXXX Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.50]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03895 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 14:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earthlink.net (21Cust477.tnt9.tco2.da.uu.net [63.2.103.221]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13832 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 11:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <372C9E4B.BE0642C0@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 14:49:47 -0400 From: Frank Wegerich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Thanx Anita, Sean, -N- Todd References: <004b01be942a$1f7a5240$3273c3d0@bruce> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------31AE5343B4A9F42FAC6C8B2E" --------------31AE5343B4A9F42FAC6C8B2E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am joining in thanking you all for the nice ride as well !!!! 688 showed me that it is somehow possible to scrape the center stand in a tight bumpy curve .... scary ... first thing I did today was to adjust the suspension (-: I am really impressed by the GPS ... gotta get one ... (-: Thanks Frank BMW RT 1100 Bruce Norton wrote: > Yes, I had a great time also. 688 is a blast. It's always great to > see everyone. I hope Todd's dirt bike day was as good as ours! >Just > wanted to thank Anita for leading a nice ride today. I hope everyone > made it home >unscathed!>Thanx to sean for the T-shirts! Nice new > Bike!>And thanks Todd for Playing distribution point and Providing > Donuts even!>>Mike B. > >98 ZX 900R > >ICQ # 16801250 --------------31AE5343B4A9F42FAC6C8B2E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am joining in thanking you all for the nice ride as well !!!!  688 showed me that it is somehow possible to scrape the center stand  in a tight bumpy curve   .... scary ... first thing I did today was to adjust the suspension (-:
I am really impressed by the GPS ... gotta get one ... (-:

Thanks
Frank
BMW RT 1100
 

Bruce Norton wrote:

 Yes, I had a great time also. 688 is a blast. It's always great to see everyone. I hope Todd's dirt bike day was as good as ours!  >Just wanted to thank Anita for leading a nice ride today. I hope everyone made it home >unscathed!>Thanx to sean for the T-shirts! Nice new Bike!>And thanks Todd for Playing distribution point and Providing Donuts even!>>Mike B.
>98 ZX 900R
>ICQ # 16801250
--------------31AE5343B4A9F42FAC6C8B2E-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 2 16:34:34 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05224 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 16:34:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp6.idsonline.com [207.176.21.6]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA10674; Sun, 2 May 1999 16:34:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "GTS" , "Dc-Cycles" , "Concours Owners Group" Subject: Givi Lock Inserts FOR SALE Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:35:15 -0400 Message-ID: <003e01be94db$490a19e0$0615b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 3 GIVI Keylock Inserts for sale. Includes the tumbler and collar, 2 keys and the snap ring for the lock arm. Key numbers are: 2112 052 (2 pair) Cost is: $5 per single set + postage (which I'll guess would be $2.50) First come first served!! Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Sun May 2 16:53:41 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA05474 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 16:53:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (400) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nKNVa02290; Sun, 2 May 1999 16:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1fb463b.245e14ee@aol.com> Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:51:58 EDT Subject: Re: Shipping Overseas To: okan1262@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Okan, there is a guy that advertises in the AMA magazine that has worked out a deal with Lufthansa to put bikes on the Newark-Frankfurt flight (just strapped down), last time I called it was $800. The catch is you have to fly on the same plane and ride your bike through customs, although it is treated as a normal tourist vehicle that way as long as you don't decide to live in Germany for more than 6 months. You need to get insurance valid in Europe of course, but he has a line on where that is available, I didn't ask because I have an agent in Italy who insures a car I keep there and would use her. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sun May 2 22:07:00 1999 Return-Path: henwin@XXXXXX Received: from cpcug.org (cpcug.org [205.197.248.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA09423 for ; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from henrywin (dc-csesp87.idsonline.com [207.176.21.87]) by cpcug.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA01175; Sun, 2 May 1999 22:06:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Henry S. Winokur" To: "GTS" , "Dc-Cycles" , "Concours Owners Group" Subject: GIVI Lock Inserts FOR SALE Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 22:07:37 -0400 Message-ID: <002701be9509$b788e940$5715b0cf@henrywin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I forgot to state that the inserts I have are brand new. There are no other GIVI parts for sale here Please respond directly to me. Many thanks & KTRSD Henry S. Winokur '87 Concours, '94 GTS 1000 AMA Lifer, COG #39, MRF, MSF/MD MSP Certified Instructor West Bethesda, MD From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 08:29:22 1999 Return-Path: jayn@XXXXXX Received: from web4.rocketmail.com (web4.rocketmail.com [205.180.57.78]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA18057 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 08:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990503122722.9422.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Received: from [160.151.5.29] by web4; Mon, 03 May 1999 05:27:22 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 05:27:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Thompson Reply-To: jaynik@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE To: Jon Schumer Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ok... who on this list hasn't opened up their bike??? Jay (sometimes I just need to sit back and shut up.... but I'm unemployed an need something to keep me busy!) ---Jon Schumer wrote: > > >Hey, the only way to know what the max is, is to push it. Not a bad price > >for the bike and it's pretty comfortable. add a micron Exhaust and you'll > be > >trying to push the front end back down. And they are going for 7000 new, > not > >6000 > >I guess He decided to leave the state instead of paying the ticket. I > wonder > >if they kicked him out of the country? > >Trevor 1998 YZF600 > > I'd rather push it in the corners and see what I'm made of more than what > the bike can do in a straight line. Spend $20 on a smaller front sprocket, > it'll reduce your top end speed and increase your acceleration. It'll have > more effect than a pipe until you jet it. Besides, what's so fun in getting > busted doing 140mph? Pick your places wisely or know how to disappear..... > > Jon > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 08:40:57 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18180 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 08:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA28001 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 08:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:40:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE In-Reply-To: <19990503122722.9422.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 May 1999, Jay Thompson wrote: > Ok... who on this list hasn't opened up their bike??? Me, for one. My old bike was a Hawk GT with lower than stock gearing. I never saw redline in 5th gear. I would guess that redline would put you at 110 or maybe even a touch lower. I have seen top speed on an XT350 but that was only 75-80 mph... :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 08:49:06 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc014.hqda.pentagon.mil (dadc014.hqda.pentagon.mil [141.116.33.24] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA18301 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 08:49:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc014.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 08:48:11 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFCC3@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:48:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Me!!!!! I saw 125 indicated downhill on the Magna and 145 indicated on the VFR. Glenn > On Mon, 3 May 1999, Jay Thompson wrote: > > Ok... who on this list hasn't opened up their bike??? > > Me, for one. My old bike was a Hawk GT with lower than stock gearing. I > never saw redline in 5th gear. I would guess that redline would put you at > 110 or maybe even a touch lower. > > I have seen top speed on an XT350 but that was only 75-80 mph... :) > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 09:03:18 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18491 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AE8EDBE026A; Mon, 03 May 1999 09:03:10 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990503073057.01304a90@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 07:33:01 -0400 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Fairfax Country crackdown??? In-Reply-To: <001401be9410$8939b280$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> References: <19990501191935.26896.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:23 PM 5/1/99 , Thomas and Jeannette wrote: >The judge had >a lady with children there and was in for driving on a suspended. He said, >"I hope you have someone to watch them for the evening because you're >staying here with us. Fotunately, the D.A. was reasonable (another failure >to pay fines bullshit thing) and a deal was struck. It makes you wonder why someone with kids would 1) commit traffic violations to begin with, and 2) decide not to pay the fines. What exactly does this teach the kids? "Hey kids, watch what Mommy's doing!" Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 09:30:13 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18903 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 06:34:31 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC907@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Powder coating? Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 06:27:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain I'm looking for a powder coater in the greater Baltimore-Washington area. I seem to recall someone mentioning one on the list not too long ago, but I can't find it in my archive. Need to get a frame powder coated, and don't want to have to ship the thing. Any help? Thanks! Perry From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 09:39:05 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18982 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 06:38:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Powder coating? Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 06:38:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I've heard good things about ISPA - 410-644-4500 - one of my bosses got some wheels done.. he's had them for several years and has been very happy with the looks/durability this shop did. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Coleman, Perry [mailto:Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 9:27 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Powder coating? > > > I'm looking for a powder coater in the greater > Baltimore-Washington area. I > seem to recall someone mentioning one on the list not too > long ago, but I > can't find it in my archive. Need to get a frame powder > coated, and don't > want to have to ship the thing. Any help? Thanks! > > Perry > > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 09:47:11 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f185.hotmail.com [209.185.131.248]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA19100 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27498 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 1999 13:46:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990503134630.27497.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.23 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 May 1999 06:46:30 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.23] From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 06:46:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; I haven't on either of the 600's. I did on the 250, but not on any road long enough to get it over 100. The moped is tuned specifically for top end, I always ride it WFO. Different tools for different tasks. Leon. >From: Jay Thompson >Reply-To: jaynik@XXXXXX >To: Jon Schumer >CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: 98 YZF 600 (blue) FOR SALE >Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 05:27:22 -0700 (PDT) > >Ok... who on this list hasn't opened up their bike??? > >Jay >(sometimes I just need to sit back and shut up.... but I'm unemployed an >need >something to keep me busy!) > > > > > >---Jon Schumer wrote: > > > > >Hey, the only way to know what the max is, is to push it. Not a bad >price > > >for the bike and it's pretty comfortable. add a micron Exhaust and >you'll > > be > > >trying to push the front end back down. And they are going for 7000 >new, > > not > > >6000 > > >I guess He decided to leave the state instead of paying the ticket. I > > wonder > > >if they kicked him out of the country? > > >Trevor 1998 YZF600 > > > > I'd rather push it in the corners and see what I'm made of more than >what > > the bike can do in a straight line. Spend $20 on a smaller front >sprocket, > > it'll reduce your top end speed and increase your acceleration. It'll >have > > more effect than a pipe until you jet it. Besides, what's so fun in >getting > > busted doing 140mph? Pick your places wisely or know how to >disappear..... > > > > Jon > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:10:24 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19458 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07306 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:10:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.mindspring.com (smtp1.mindspring.com [207.69.200.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26878 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:10:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hgg (user-2iveibq.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.73.122]) by smtp1.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA29815 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990503101157.007cfb90@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:11:57 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry Greenspun, MD" Subject: Capital 1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Does anyone know how I can get in touch with an organizer for the Capital 1000? I've tried reaching Larry Fears without success. Please respond directly since I'm off the list. Thanks. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:13:36 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19543 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:13:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:17:47 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC908@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Powder coating? Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:10:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Brian, Thanks for the info. I will contact them. Are there any others? Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [SMTP:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 9:38 AM > To: 'dc' > Subject: RE: Powder coating? > > I've heard good things about ISPA - 410-644-4500 - one of my bosses got > some > wheels done.. he's had them for several years and has been very happy with > the looks/durability this shop did. > > Brian > > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:13:50 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19562 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:13:48 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA23205; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:14:51 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma022683; Mon, 3 May 99 10:14:11 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FB5009KQU9TGL@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256766.004E029F ; Mon, 03 May 1999 10:11:47 -0400 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:05:39 -0400 Subject: High Speed on your Bike? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256766.004ECC8A.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Not to bring up a machismo contest, but how fast do you guys/gals go on your bikes? How fast do you feel comfortable riding, given the increasing rate of danger and proximity of police officers that comes with higher speeds? As for myself, I've taken my Superhawk up to (indicated) 130, but only briefly on long straight stretches of empty roads. I personally don't like the thought of getting pulled over or wrecking at that speed, but I can't (or won't) allow myself to obey speed limits all of the time. I'm starting to become more and more enamoured of the idea of "fast through the turns, slower on the straights" that some people on the list have mentioned in the past. Opinions? Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:28:00 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19759 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:27:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:27:45 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I've hit an indicated 145 on my VFR.. usually on the beltway at like 4~5am either getting home (from Tom Zells.. sheesh), or going off on a ride somewhere. Typically, I ride at about 70~80.. 15 over.. I like the thought of keeping it below the reckless threshold. As for the twisties.. the only time I'm hammering it on the straights is when someone infront of me is parking it in the corners, then getting on the gas to cetch-up.. I seem to recall a very well written article about The Pace floating aroun on Kirk Roys web-page... not that I have his URL.. (que Kirk) Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:33:05 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19810 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:33:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990503144107.3325.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 07:41:07 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:41:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well... Back in Oklahoma where i was on a nice long straight road where you could see all the way to the horizon, I took my old 93 GSXR750 to an indicated 167 mph (hit a damn dove as I passed 145!!! yuck!!). Race bike sees redline in 6th gear once per lap!! ;-) Dunno how fast that is exactly, but it's hauling! On the street, I generally feel comfortable riding about 7-8 tenths of capability in the corners and slower in the straights... but that varies from bike to bike... I generally like to ride in a style similar to "The Pace" (Kirk has a link to it on his page). I keep the speeo around 70 and occasionally brake for a corner, but generally carry as much corner speed as possible. And I try to keep it under 70 on the straights for sure... That usually worked out to be about 6 tenths of what the GSXR could handle, and about 8 tenths of what the Maxim can take. Collin --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > Not to bring up a machismo contest, but how fast do you guys/gals go > on > your bikes? How fast do you feel comfortable riding, given the > increasing > rate of danger and proximity of police officers that comes with > higher > speeds? > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:41:37 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19939 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:41:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA15407 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:41:33 -0400 Message-Id: <199905031441.KAA15407@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:37:43 -0400 Subject: Speed Limits in MD... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Okay, I'm not looking to start a debate on speed limits, how fast you should ride, or anything like that, but I do have a question. I was riding in MD yesterday, following an old PARR poker run route. We started at White's Ferry, wound up in Sharpsburg, and eventually Charles Town. The roads were nice, traffic was light and the scenery was beautiful. But, here's my question... is it me, or are the speed limits on rural roads in MD significantly lower than in VA? I mean, a road that seemed to be the equivalent of Rte 50 west of Middleburg, had a 40 mph limit. A nice road with good pavement, double yellow lines, etc., winding past farms (i.e. not residential neighborhoods) had a speed limit of 30 mph! I really had to keep my eye on my speed... my usual cruising at 50-55 mph would have been a ticket for reckless driving.. no thanks! :-) Anyhow, I was just curious if anyone else had noticed this about MD roads? ..it seems that most of the "fun" roads in Loudoun and Fauquier counties have a 45 mph limit... I can't recall seeing any 30's! Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:43:05 1999 Return-Path: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20013 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:43:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02563 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:43:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) id <0FB500101VJ48E@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:42:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) with ESMTP id <0FB5005GQVIYDE@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 03 May 1999 10:42:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 03 May 1999 10:43:32 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 10:42:03 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655E86@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I just got back from PA yesterday - spent the weekend there for a bridal shower. I consider myself a pretty safe driver - I don't take too many chances. I took our '98 Kawasaki Concours and I kept the throttle at about 75-80mph but I was still being passed so I felt it was a good speed. On highways, I just stay with or a little in front of traffic. I try to keep it under reckless. :) Now, on my Suzuki Savage - I have no clue. The tank bag covers up the speedometer (it's on the tank).. I just find a speed that my nose isn't vibrating off my face or my toes are falling off the pegs - think it's around 60-65 mph. We think bike - it's all about finding the vibration you can live with. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:43:34 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20023 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 3 May 1999 14:43:16 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA14150 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:43:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:43:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Questions about photography.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey, since some of you guys are photo enthusiasts, thought I'd throw this out there. I went to summit point a few weeks ago, and apparently, they had a photographer in the stands or some kind of automatic system. Anyway, I got 4 pictures in the mail (2 good, 2 crappy), and an 'order form' - to where I tell them the sheet + exposure number, and they make me an 8x10, 20x30, etc.. size print. Problem. They are expensive as HELL. I'm talking $70 for a 20x30 print. There's one I really like, and I'd love to have a poster of it, but I dont know about $70!!! I mean, thats half the price of FATT! On the other hand, I have no idea what it would normally cost to get a 20x30 made of a picture (at sears or something).. but I imagine its in the $12-20 range. So. (A) Is this a fair price, (B) what are my odds of getting the negatives if I want them, (C) Is there any way I can get the little slide snippet thing blown up? Alex. ObMoto: Looks like im gonna have to plunk $100 for an ignition. Locksmith can't make me a key for the katana. Silly thing vanished on me. Then I have the joy of getting the tank/tail rekeyed. Moral of the story: Dont lose a key to a bike you dont have the key code for. Or cant find out what dealer it was sold from :P From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:50:05 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20147 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:50:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA16476 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:50:10 -0400 Message-Id: <199905031450.KAA16476@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:46:20 -0400 Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) I haven't had my GPZ over 100 mph and I only try out the higher speeds on deserted back roads, where I can see *way* ahead. Most of the time my cruising speed is 10-15 mph over. Except for 25 mph limit areas.. places that have those (like Herndon) seem to have speed traps on every corner. Seems silly to get another ticket for doing 37 in a 25 (my only speeding ticket, and that was in my car), so I slow w-a-y down and let the other people get nabbed! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:53:23 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20171 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 07:53:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:52:28 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Well... > Back in Oklahoma where i was on a nice long straight road where you > could see all the way to the horizon, I took my old 93 GSXR750 to an > indicated 167 mph (hit a damn dove as I passed 145!!! yuck!!). Er.. if we're going THAT route.. ;) In Montana back a few years ago.. Several friends and I hauled a fairly worked GSXR1100 (it'd been punched to 1346 or something like that, masivly ported heads, light-weight everything) out to a deserted road.. blocked it off with trucks and commensed doing high-speed runs (we borrowed Dynojets speed-gun).. Well, like the dumbasses we were, we chated about it on the CBs and the cops overheard.. I was the first to get tagged.. 187 in a 55.. I pulled back around to trade off with my roommate (who owned the bike) and the cop pulled up then to 'discuss' with us what the hell we were doing. (I might mention he came up on a jeep-trail, the only access to the portion of high-way we were using). After some talk, he wrote me a ticket for 187 in a 55.. $5, waste of natural resources.. It's framed (and burried in storage in Montana). He then wrote a ticket for my roomate doing 198 in a 55.. noone did get over 200 that day (though we did get a 200+ run in the wind several weeks later.. but couldn't hit an average in the +200s). Guess I'm a nut or something.. :P Man, my neck hurt the next day.... Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 10:56:14 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20195 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990503145734.199.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web302.yahoomail.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 07:57:34 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Questions about photography.. To: Alex Milenkovic , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As for the Eurospares photos, I really doubt he'd sell the negative.. since that would defeat the purpose of him selling the prints.... but it never hurts to ask.... As for a key set... call baltimore cycle salvage... you should be able to get a full key set for about $100 or less.... === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:04:00 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20325 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:03:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9PY6VSW; Mon, 03 May 1999 11:03:45 EDT To: alexm@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Questions about photography.. Message-ID: <19990503.180455.5103.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-10,15-17 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:03:45 EDT On Mon, 3 May 1999 10:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Alex Milenkovic writes: >ObMoto: >Looks like im gonna have to plunk $100 for an ignition. Locksmith >can't make me a key for the katana. Silly thing vanished on me. >Then I have the joy of getting the tank/tail rekeyed. Moral >of the story: Dont lose a key to a bike you dont have the key >code for. Or cant find out what dealer it was sold from :P I haven't checked this with anyone here before writing this, but it seems to me that any Suzuki dealer would be able to track down your key code and make you a new key if you were able to prove you owned the bike in question. If you want, I will ask around. We do sell Suzuki here after all... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:05:00 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20347 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990503150624.1625.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web302.yahoomail.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 08:06:24 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:06:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? To: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmmmm, a little birdie once told me that your GPZ was accelerating through 130 indicted in a high speed right hand sweeper with the peggies just starting to touch down!!! he he he he CT --- "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> wrote: > I haven't had my GPZ over 100 mph and I only try out the higher > speeds on deserted back roads, where I can see *way* ahead. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:06:55 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20436 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:06:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 423; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:06:43 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990503110401.019babb0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:05:51 -0400 To: Alex Milenkovic , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Questions about photography.. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:43 AM 5/3/99 , Alex Milenkovic wrote: >Problem. They are expensive as HELL. I'm talking $70 for a 20x30 >print. There's one I really like, and I'd love to have a poster >of it, but I dont know about $70!!! I mean, thats half the price >of FATT! >So. (A) Is this a fair price, (B) what are my odds of getting the >negatives if I want them, (C) Is there any way I can get the >little slide snippet thing blown up? A) Yes B) Slim to none C) Probably not. Since he took the picture, it is like a photo studio - you can not get it blown up w/o his permission. 20x30 is a big print, and likely worth the money. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:11:59 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20484 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:11:56 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA18357; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:12:37 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma017968; Mon, 3 May 99 11:11:47 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FB500KG8WXWN3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:13:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256766.0053453F ; Mon, 03 May 1999 11:09:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:03:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Questions about photography.. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256766.00540C94.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Alex Minkovic wrote: --------------------------------- I went to summit point a few weeks ago, and apparently, they had a photographer in the stands or some kind of automatic system. Anyway, I got 4 pictures in the mail (2 good, 2 crappy), and an 'order form' - to where I tell them the sheet + exposure number, and they make me an 8x10, 20x30, etc.. size print. --------------------------------- It was a photographer. I watched him take photos from several places near the carousel on Sunday. I suspect he took photos from other spots as well. --------------------------------- Problem. They are expensive as HELL. I'm talking $70 for a 20x30 print. There's one I really like, and I'd love to have a poster of it, but I dont know about $70!!! I mean, thats half the price of FATT! So. (A) Is this a fair price, (B) what are my odds of getting the negatives if I want them, (C) Is there any way I can get the little slide snippet thing blown up? ----------------------------------- (A) That does seem a bit steep, but not totally out of line. I expect you'd normally pay $30-40 to blow something up to that size, and when you include the photographer's time and materials, it doesn't seem that bad a price. (B) Your odds of getting negatives are almost nil. They are the property of the photographer, and he'll be loathe to give them up. (C) You can get photos and slides blown up at many 1-hour photo places. (They send them out) Whether or not this is something you want to do will depend on their price and the quality of the original. Good luck, Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:12:41 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20558 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.22]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:43:09 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:44:04 -0400 Message-ID: <004a01be9573$64255b20$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <85256766.004ECC8A.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Kinda like Leon, it depends on the bike. And the route. On the Wing, for day-to-day stuff, I cruise at traffic speed. Usually in the right lane. I've never seen over an indicated 75 on it. On the BMW, I'll cruise at 70-75, 80-85 on the interstates, and have only seen an (indicated) 120 once. FWIW, the bike is actually smoother at 85 than at 65. I think the weight helps it settle down, and the engine is past the 'buzzy' point. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > Not to bring up a machismo contest, but how fast do you guys/gals go on > your bikes? How fast do you feel comfortable riding, given the increasing > rate of danger and proximity of police officers that comes with higher > speeds? > > As for myself, I've taken my Superhawk up to (indicated) 130, but only > briefly on long straight stretches of empty roads. I personally don't like > the thought of getting pulled over or wrecking at that speed, but I can't > (or won't) allow myself to obey speed limits all of the time. I'm starting > to become more and more enamoured of the idea of "fast through the turns, > slower on the straights" that some people on the list have > mentioned in the > past. > > Opinions? > > Chris Weaver > 98 VTR 1000 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:13:20 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20568 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AD0A181901D2; Mon, 03 May 1999 11:13:14 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990503110209.01308b70@mail.toward.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990503110209.01308b70@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:07:10 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? In-Reply-To: <85256766.004ECC8A.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:05 AM 5/3/99 , christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >Not to bring up a machismo contest, but how fast do you guys/gals go on >your bikes? How fast do you feel comfortable riding, given the increasing >rate of danger and proximity of police officers that comes with higher >speeds? 10-20 over is the fastest I like to go - varying with conditions, of course. Slabbing it on a sunny day is a lot different than dicing with traffic. I prefer riding just faster than 50-75% of traffic - this minimizes the hazards behind me that are catching up to me. Of course, there will always be the idiot who wants to go 20-30 over, even in the dark, or with wet roads -- I try to position myself to stay out of his way. The older and more expereienced I get the more I realize what hazards are out there - going slower when conditions warrant is a good way to keep riding. Whenever I hear a rider say "the road went bad unexpectedly so I crashed" or "someone in front of me stopped short" then I know they were riding too fast for the conditions. Macho? Hell, it's harder to slow down than it is to just twist the throttle. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:23:04 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20691 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:23:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA08289 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29284 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 439 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:22:54 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990503111738.012fbb20@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:22:16 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Centreville Biker Down Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So, I come into work today...happy to show off the VFR, and a buddy of mine tells me that his brother totaled a friend's F3 this weekend. Said he borrowed the guy's bike and was back around Waxpool / Redskins Park off of 28. Apparently he was doing close to 100 when a nice man pulled out in front of him. Startled by the site of the bike, the nice man stopped in the middle of the road. Biker hits car going 45, body found 300 feet from the scene of the accident. Fortunately, the body was alive - massive road rash, no spine or head injury, broken thumb and shattered ankle. Oh - and no insurance. He is a college student. Police ruled the accident the biker's fault due to speed and general stupidity on a blind curve. I hope he gets well soon, and finds some way to pay off his bills. When he gets out of the hospital that is.... So, that sort of deflated my new bike news around the office. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:30:54 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20829 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA02227; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:28:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv12-29.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.157) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma002106; Mon May 3 10:27:49 1999 Message-ID: <016a01be9579$4c419360$9d5e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "Alex Milenkovic" , References: Subject: Re: Questions about photography.. Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:19:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Nope, you wont get the negatives, a 20x30 for $70.00 is about right, = maybe a bit high but not by much if its on real photo paper, if its a = computer printed print then it is high.=20 Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alex Milenkovic To: Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 10:43 AM Subject: Questions about photography.. >=20 > Hey, since some of you guys are photo enthusiasts, thought I'd > throw this out there. >=20 > I went to summit point a few weeks ago, and apparently, they > had a photographer in the stands or some kind of automatic > system. Anyway, I got 4 pictures in the mail (2 good, 2 crappy), > and an 'order form' - to where I tell them the sheet + exposure > number, and they make me an 8x10, 20x30, etc.. size print. >=20 > Problem. They are expensive as HELL. I'm talking $70 for a 20x30 > print. There's one I really like, and I'd love to have a poster > of it, but I dont know about $70!!! I mean, thats half the price > of FATT! >=20 > On the other hand, I have no idea what it would normally cost to > get a 20x30 made of a picture (at sears or something).. but I > imagine its in the $12-20 range. >=20 > So. (A) Is this a fair price, (B) what are my odds of getting the > negatives if I want them, (C) Is there any way I can get the > little slide snippet thing blown up? From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:33:39 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20857 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:33:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgnpu17417 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:31:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256766.0055906B ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:34:35 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256766.00558E43.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:24:43 -0400 Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline The fastest I've taken my VFR so far is 120, but that was on a long straight on the Eastern shore where you could see for at least a mile. I, for one, do not feel safe taking blind curves very fast... I'm getting a lot faster on curves in general but I think I tend to go a bit slower than most DC Cycles riders over hills/blind curves, etc. I just always get this image in my head of a deer, child or car stopped in the road in front of me! Oh well...better safe than sorry, I guess that's the way I ride! : ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 _____________________________________________________________ This electronic message transmission contains information from the law firm Shaw Pittman Potts & Trowbridge that may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended solely for the recipient and use by any other party is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (1.202.663.8000) or by electronic mail (postmaster@XXXXXX). Thank you. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:34:26 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20868 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:34:25 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (3930) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2BWLa02978 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <16bd059f.245f1bbb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:33:15 EDT Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Though not as fast as most of you, my Shadow has been up to an indicated 110mph (rev limiter kicks in at that point) on a few occassions. Not bad for an old cruiser, IMHO! I too keep it around 10-15 over, most of the time. ;) Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:34:35 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20879 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr40-dialup18.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.75.210]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0FB5007XQXWLKI@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:34:01 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:33:12 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002801be9558$bd1ce240$d24b3ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >I'm starting >to become more and more enamoured of the idea of "fast through the turns, >slower on the straights" that some people on the list have mentioned in the >past. >Chris Weaver >98 VTR 1000 Hey, what a concept huh? Congratulations on becoming a more mature, sportbike rider..... Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:36:28 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20974 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:36:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (14387) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cNNYa13017; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:34:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <861b2b3d.245f1c08@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:34:32 EDT Subject: Re: Speed Limits in MD... To: 2xracers@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 In a message dated 5/3/99 10:49:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 2xracers@XXXXXX writes: << But, here's my question... is it me, or are the speed limits on rural roads in MD significantly lower than in VA? >> Absolutely, particularly in Anne Arundel county where 50 MPH roads are set at 35. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:38:07 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (web803.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.63]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20985 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990503154314.18504.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 08:43:14 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? To: "DC Cycles" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > At 10:05 AM 5/3/99 , christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > >Not to bring up a machismo contest, but how fast do you guys/gals go > on your bikes? How fast do you feel comfortable riding? Generally I'm loathe to go more than 20 mph over the posted speed limits, as I'm not in a hurry to pick up a reckless driving ticket either. But circumstances sometimes dictate otherwise. Baiting a group of squids, for example, has shown me 120 mph on the speedo. But that was one of my more stupid moments. When in serious LD mode, out on the highways, if I'm travelling near a group of faster traffic, I'll let them get ahead of me, and then just pace them. I'm comfortable doing this, with a cushion between me and anyone else, up to about 85 mph on the Concours, but 70-75 is more typical. The Connie is truly in it's element at those speeds. I'm generally much slower on twisty backroads, I also try to do the fast in the corners, slower in the straights kinda deal, but most of you folks would think my version of "fast" in the corners is pretty tame. If I average 45-50 mph on these kinda roads over time I'm doing pretty good. Another advantage of riding slower in the straights, you can get some pretty serious sightseeing done that way (one eye always on the road, of course). :) Dale === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:38:41 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA20994 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 11:37:35 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 03 May 1999 11:37:27 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 11:36:19 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: High Speed on your Bike? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline On freeways, I try to stay at "with the flow" speeds (70-ish) with the occasional burst for moron dispatchment. At that speed, you can usually count on being able to trail a ways behind a "rabbit" for cop bait (love those 5.0 Mustang guys!). On lonlier two-laners, I find that the bike and I are happiest at 80-85, adjusting as necessary for towns, likely speed-trappage, and swervery. 'Course, don't run at speeds that make you uncomfortable. It ain't a race out there. YMMV. Joe '85 900 Ninja >>> - 5/3/99 10:05 AM >>> Not to bring up a machismo contest, but how fast do you guys/gals go on your bikes? How fast do you feel comfortable riding, given the increasing rate of danger and proximity of police officers that comes with higher speeds? As for myself, I've taken my Superhawk up to (indicated) 130, but only briefly on long straight stretches of empty roads. I personally don't like the thought of getting pulled over or wrecking at that speed, but I can't (or won't) allow myself to obey speed limits all of the time. I'm starting to become more and more enamoured of the idea of "fast through the turns, slower on the straights" that some people on the list have mentioned in the past. Opinions? Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 11:49:20 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21156 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:48:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (14387) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2VLHa16060 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36e01c64.245f1f11@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:47:29 EDT Subject: Total-Loss Ignition To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Anyone out there use (or have used) total loss-ignition (no magneto) systems? I am getting conflicting reports on how long a battery will last (without charging) under normal circumstances, i.e. arriving at the track in the AM running the bike occasionally for tuning and running an am and afternoon race. Always had at least a magneto on any prior racebike. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:33:58 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21792 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA04154 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990503163006.21142.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 09:30:06 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:30:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Can you say "Drooooollll" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I thought you could ;-) http://www.speedlink.com/wheelt/2WheelerRacing/nsrs.htm === Collin T. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:34:38 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21814 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:34:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA01226 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (14387) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id hQVWa25658; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:00:25 EDT Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? -Reply To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 In a message dated 5/3/99 11:55:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, NAGYJ@XXXXXX writes: << At that speed, you can usually count on being able to trail a ways behind a "rabbit" for cop bait (love those 5.0 Mustang guys!). >> You Kawa 9 guys are all the same. :-). But seriously lately I've found that younger women in bright colored economy cars really fly on the slab and make good rabbits as long as you keep 4-5 car lengths back, never know what they might do. No flames please I am not sexist, just reporting. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:34:27 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21810 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA04683 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:25:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9P5LALG; Mon, 03 May 1999 12:20:58 EDT To: 2xracers@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? Message-ID: <19990503.191019.5103.2.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <199905031450.KAA16476@radagast.wizard.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 7-9 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 12:20:58 EDT Years ago when I worked at Dulles Airport, I rode a friend's RF900R out on a closed runway to an indicated 160mph. I assume the speedo was grossly inaccurate, but whatever speed I was really going, the bike was very stable and didn't seem entirely tapped out. I ran out of runway and nerve before I reached terminal velocity. Then the airport cops appeared and I had to hightail it off the runway and out of airport jurisdiction quickly to avoid revocation of my airport security clearance and my driver's license. It was one of the few times that I've run from cops. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:34:32 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21812 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:34:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA02361 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:09:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02926 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:06:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:06:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: The Pace was RE: High Speed on your Bike? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 May 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > As for the twisties.. the only time I'm hammering it on the straights > is when someone infront of me is parking it in the corners, then > getting on the gas to cetch-up.. I seem to recall a very well written > article about The Pace floating aroun on Kirk Roys web-page... not that > I have his URL.. (que Kirk) The url is http://members.nova.org/~kirk/echr/philosophy.htm. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:34:20 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21807 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA03499 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 12:14:44 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 03 May 1999 12:14:38 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 12:13:14 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: Boiade@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Fred writes: I've found that younger women in bright colored economy cars really fly on the slab -snip- Yes, by all means let those young ladies by. Otherwise, they are impressively fearless tailgaters. I still like the 5.0 clan--much faster and dumber, plus I think the cops have developed a special detector for "No Fear" and "Bad Boy Club" rear-window stickers. Joe From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:34:43 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21816 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:34:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA01159 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08997 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00456 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10eL8P-0003cc-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:59:57 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA18322 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005501be957e$f15a56c0$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: Centreville Biker Down Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:06:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 > Fortunately, the body was alive - massive road >rash, no spine or head injury, broken thumb and shattered ankle. Sounds like he got what he deserved, and lucky not more. No sympathy from me. >Oh - and no insurance. He is a college student. Figures. >Police ruled the accident the biker's fault due to speed and general >stupidity on a blind curve. Makes sense to me. >I hope he gets well soon, and finds some way >to pay off his bills. Ya . . . and finds a cure for that "general stupidity" thing also. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:34:49 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21849 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:34:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA01142 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (14387) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7NWCa13017; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:55:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:56:00 EDT Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? To: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 In a message dated 5/3/99 11:44:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fzr_mofo@XXXXXX writes: << Hey, what a concept huh? Congratulations on becoming a more mature, sportbike rider..... Jon >> Ok, ok. Just because you had to slow down in that corner last year behind me (got a good look at your front caliper as I recall), you don't have to get nasty. ( I know I am immature, I just don't look it. Anyway, I was slowing down for someone else in front of me, yeah it was Colin, that's the ticket. LOL BTW, I may be buying (god forbid) a Yamaha. It is a 2-stroke, 26 years old, ugly and cheap but it is still a Yamaha. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:34:55 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21863 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:34:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA03572 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:17:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10eLKV-00043v-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:12:27 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA23513 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005d01be9580$b04336a0$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Re: Questions about photography.. Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:19:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >of it, but I dont know about $70!!! I mean, thats half the price >of FATT! >So. (A) Is this a fair price, (B) what are my odds of getting the >negatives if I want them, (C) Is there any way I can get the >little slide snippet thing blown up? (A) Keep in mind that like most track vendors he probably has to pay a fee to the track to operate there. (B) Your odds are excellent . . . but it would cost you MUCH more than $70! (C) Yes, but it would look like crap and cost you plenty. Call them up and tell them you can only afford $50 or $60. Its not like they're gonna sell that picture of you to anyone else. Your other option is to purchase a picture from the other guy taking photographs at the track that day . . . Oh . . . he was the only one. :-) Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:42:12 1999 Return-Path: ramsr@XXXXXX Received: from mail4.microsoft.com (mail4.microsoft.com [131.107.3.122]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21982 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail4.microsoft.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 09:40:46 -0700 Message-ID: <77BE55B2D0E2D111ADDD00805F9FDE1A01840D75@WAS-MSG-01> From: "Ram K. Srinivasan" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Greetings Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 09:40:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2524.0) Greetings fellow riders, Just wanted to re-introduce myself. I'm a kind of a new rider. Actually got my bike last fall. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to ride extensively due to new biker fears about riding in bad weather, and also extensive travel for work. Does anyone have a Suzuki GS500? If so, I'd love some maintence tips etc. I currently live in Bethesda, MD. Any advice on any good bike shops, where you won't get taken to the cleaners? I've heard not so good things about Coleman Power & Sport in Arlington. Anyway, I'm back in town now, and am hoping to meet you all. How big are the ride groups and how fast or crazy do you guys get? (Read: Is it possible for a newbie to hang ? :) ) Many thanx. -Ram ---------------------------------------- Rám Srinivasan 90 Suzuki GS500 ramsr@XXXXXX ---------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 12:48:09 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22122 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:47:48 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYR2J71; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:47:10 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31RSJW; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:47:10 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256766.005C3482 ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:47:07 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256766.005AED88.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 12:45:24 -0400 Subject: T-shirt/Weekend Ride Comments Hey DC-cyclists, I like the t-shirt, I just wish something had been printed on the back such as "dc-cycles@XXXXXX", for those pulling up the rear would know who we are. Just a thought. Also, I rode with the group for about an hour & the route was nice, but the pace was a bit lacking. I was surprised to see so many sport bikes in the group. This was a good thing, so I thought we would be traveling a bit faster. Not break neck, but at a pace that would allow us to enter & exit the curves without hitting the brakes so often due to the person ahead of you. I found myselft trying to increase the following distance so that I could get more out of the ride. Other than that, it was nice meeting you guys & hopefully we can do it again soon sometime. Thanks, DJ 97' Red/White Yamaha YZF1000R (Wheely Squid in Training) From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 13:05:11 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22403 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 10:04:50 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Greetings Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:04:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Welcome.. Well.. As for shops.. I'm sure you'll hear some people talk about Fast Lane Cycles in Chantilly, VA.. Cycle Sport in Wheaton, MD and a few others.. but my money always goes to The Dirt Shop (or The Motorcycle Shop) in College Park, MD... they've done nothing but treat myself and my friends right. I can't recommend them enough for anything... And, for group rides.. typically, the faster stuff where a newer rider would have 'issues', those are all set up semi-privately and arranged by invite only.. so the rides you see posted are all things that you could not only keep up with safely, you'd be Encouraged to ride with us.. :) Hope you enjoy the summer months.. Brian (with a still broken wrist.. ugh) From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 13:12:51 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22583 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:12:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA10596 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgnqa15332; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:13:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256766.005EC628 ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:15:11 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: JOE NAGY cc: Boiade@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256766.005EC4AC.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:05:19 -0400 Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline ROTFL, yeah, you've just got to love those stickers. Yesterday riding down the highway we passed one of those stickers on someone's car. I couldn't help thinking, "No Fear?!?... Get outta that car and on a bike, loser." - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 JOE NAGY on 05/03/99 12:13:14 PM To: Boiade@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? -Reply -Reply Yes, by all means let those young ladies by. Otherwise, they are impressively fearless tailgaters. I still like the 5.0 clan--much faster and dumber, plus I think the cops have developed a special detector for "No Fear" and "Bad Boy Club" rear-window stickers. Joe From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 13:43:19 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23124 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:43:17 -0400 (EDT) From: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA14465 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jnewman ([192.168.13.162]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA10688 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 12:45:56 -0400 Message-Id: <199905031645.MAA10688@bmdo.mcri.com> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:41:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Was "High Speed..." now Rabbit bait? Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? -Reply -Reply Yes, both mustangs and young women make excellent rabbits, I've found the guys with the sport/ pimped out compact Japanese cars with the aftermarket rims and exaust systems are always out to race someone. I just pull up next to them & speed up and slow down a bit, and they usually take off making the best bait of all... FWIW, just about always have a "NO FEAR" sticker too!! It just doesn't get any better... -John N 88 FZR 400 7F00,0000,0000> Fred writes: > I've found that > younger women in bright colored economy cars really fly on the slab > -snip- > Joe writes: > Yes, by all means let those young ladies by. Otherwise, they are > impressively fearless tailgaters. I still like the 5.0 clan--much > faster and dumber, plus I think the cops have developed a special > detector for "No Fear" and "Bad Boy Club" rear-window stickers. > > Joe > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 13:50:55 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23310 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:50:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA10628 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (web802.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.62]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA03443 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990503175020.17935.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 10:50:20 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Centreville Biker Down To: Mike Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Mike Troutman wrote: > > So, that sort of deflated my new bike news around the office. Well, hey, I'll say it. Nice Scoot! Congrats! :) Heard about another accident in the area on the news this morning. Evidently some biker hit by a tractor-trailer as it was turning. They showed pics of the crash scene, evidently the biker tried to pass (on a double yellow) at a high speed as the rig slowed way down to make a turn. Can't blame that one on the truck driver, I don't think. > Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also > timed for 70mph. You know, I've been thinking about this sig (everybody duck, ol' Hork is thinking again!!). I don't think this is necessarily true. Was out in Ogden, UT where they had a series of traffic lights rigged for a nice steady 25 mph. If you got caught at one, when it finally turned green, if you accelerated nice and steady (for a cage) up to 25mph, the NEXT light would turn green just as you got there. If you went any faster, you waited. Nobody ever sped in town! For city traffic, it was almost cool! Dale (the Horkster) === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 13:51:27 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm01sm.pmm.cw.net (pm01sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23320 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr3-dialup6.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.66.134]) by PM01SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35315) with SMTP id <0FB600NNH48KRM@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:50:49 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 13:49:59 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Fw: It's that time of year... To: DC Cycles Message-id: <005e01be956b$d88e5b40$86423ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal This is a great clip. He's absolutely serious. Snipped from the fzr list: Jon >It was a great weekend for riding up here in New England yesterday. First >shorts/t-shirt ride of the year... >From: Chris From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 13:58:33 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23429 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:58:32 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYR2KRW; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:58:32 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31RTZV; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:58:33 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256766.0062BA99 ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:58:22 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: thunderacelist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256766.00626833.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 13:56:56 -0400 Subject: Alarms I need some recommendations for motorcycle alarms.... Who's first? Thanks, DJ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 13:58:52 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (web804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA23439 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 13:58:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990503180334.24040.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 11:03:34 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > I'm getting a lot faster on curves in general but I think I tend > to go a bit slower than most DC Cycles riders over > hills/blind curves, etc. Don't feel bad, Jeannette. I'm the same way. I'm not comfortable taking a curve faster than I can see through it. I'm amazed at some of these folks who are way faster than me through the twisties. Either their reflexes are much, much better than mine (probable) or they are just trusting that the road ahead will be clear (maybe too many in this category). Having already been inducted into the Concours Owner's Group Flying Dismount Club, I'm in no hurry to renew my membership. :) Thankfully I avoided joining the GOG Asphalt Inspection Program. :) Dale (the Horkster, still sore, have been since February 15, 1999.) === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 14:06:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23576 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10854 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:05:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA03885 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:05:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id LAA24331 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 3 May 1999 11:05:49 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 3 May 1999 11:05:49 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: Dale Horstman , Mike Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Centreville Biker Down Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:05:47 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Was out in Ogden, UT where they had a series of traffic >lights rigged for a nice steady 25 mph. If you got caught at one, >when it finally turned green, if you accelerated nice and steady >(for a cage) up to 25mph, the NEXT light would turn green just as >you got there. If you went any faster, you waited. Nobody ever >sped in town! For city traffic, it was almost cool! Noo Yawk is the same way - although the crown in the back of the Crown Vic that I rented was sure that they were going to die as I charged up to each light with no (apparent) intention of braking. The lights changed on schedule and away we went (finally got stuck behind something I couldn't get around :-( Michael (Noo Yawk's not so tuff after D.C.) J. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 14:08:42 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA23586 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id LAA25194 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 3 May 1999 11:08:20 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 3 May 1999 11:08:20 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:08:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Don't feel bad, Jeannette. I'm the same way. I'm not comfortable >taking a curve faster than I can see through it. Me too - I'm much braver as the thrid of fourth bike in the string than I am as the first of second Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 14:09:40 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23596 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:09:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA18248 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990503181746.9147.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Mon, 03 May 1999 11:17:46 PDT Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:17:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Rice boys (tm) was: Rabbit bait? To: jnewman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- jnewman@XXXXXX wrote: > Yes, both mustangs and young women make excellent > rabbits, I've found the guys with the sport/ pimped out > compact Japanese cars with the aftermarket rims and > exaust systems are always out to race someone. For your general amusement and good for a laugh or two, look at: http://www.riceboypage.com too funny.. especially the hall of shame and the comments (threats) the guy has received... I like the "No Fear" stickers too... so many times I've wanted to invite one of them to ride two up with me through a stretch of road like the mountains on 211, or for a lap or two around the track...Wonder if they'd know fear then??? lol CT === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 14:19:56 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23725 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:19:55 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYR2KY1; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:19:55 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31R42R; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:19:55 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256766.0064B10C ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:19:49 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256766.006464E4.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:18:18 -0400 Subject: Helmet Painting Hi, Any recommendations for a helmet artist. The guy I usually use is booked so I'm looking for referrals. Thanks, DJ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 14:21:18 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23814 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:21:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:21:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Rice boys (tm) was: Rabbit bait? Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:21:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > I like the "No Fear" stickers too... so many times I've wanted to > invite one of them to ride two up with me through a stretch of road > like the mountains on 211, or for a lap or two around the > track...Wonder if they'd know fear then??? lol Damn.. I don't know if I'd be screaming for my life.. or screaming for more.. That'd be a tough call to make till I was there.. :P Though I HAVe been on the back of a bike Thane was piloting.. (some of you know Thane.. hard-core rider, last years GT3 #1 plate holder, general nut) - that was a kick till I felt a slide grab while we were still WAAAAaaayy out there. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 14:21:22 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23824 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA11065 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:21:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA04246 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:21:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id LAA29199 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 3 May 1999 11:21:15 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 3 May 1999 11:21:15 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DC-Cycles Subject: No Fear Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:21:12 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Saw (on a t-shirt at Summit Point) "If you have No Fear you just haven't gone fast enough" From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:33:56 1999 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27021 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA00834 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:41:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:35:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: DC Cycles Subject: RE: It's that time of year... Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:35:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Yep. Just came back from Asheville, N.C., where some warm days sneaked out. I was surprised by the number of riders clad in only t-shirts and shorts -- not only from the safety standpoint but also because it was not quite warm enough IMHO. The one thing that I did notice was that very, very few riders were wearing gloves, even though many of those riders were decked out in otherwise appropriate riding apparel. I guess I just left left too much skin on pavement from falling down when I was younger -- not to mention picking out gravel embedded in the palms of my hands -- not to wear gloves. Ouch! Mitch Holmes Fort Meade, MD 1986 Honda Magna VF700C -----Original Message----- From: Jon Schumer [mailto:fzr_mofo@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 9:50 AM To: DC Cycles Subject: Fw: It's that time of year... This is a great clip. He's absolutely serious. Snipped from the fzr list: Jon >It was a great weekend for riding up here in New England yesterday. First >shorts/t-shirt ride of the year... >From: Chris From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:33:53 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27008 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:33:51 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA02183 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (7822) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id aPYFa26070; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:47:57 EDT Subject: Re: Questions about photography.. To: alexm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/3/1999 10:49:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, alexm@XXXXXX writes: << So. (A) Is this a fair price, (B) what are my odds of getting the negatives if I want them, (C) Is there any way I can get the little slide snippet thing blown up? >> A: Don't know. Never had one done before. But, I think it's high. B: Slim to none. Because you could have them reprinted and sell them. C: My parents have been on a "pictorial geneology" kick lately and have purchased a special setup that let's you take pictures of pictures. They've taken pictures that were 1"x1" and had them made into 4"x6" with no problem. You just take the film into your favorite store and get them developed. You can easily have them blown up to poster size for less than $70. I think Wal-mart charges about $25. The only problem is if the picture has a studio-proof label stamped on it somewhere. Hope this helps. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:34:24 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27089 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radagast.wizard.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA23233 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:45:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA10563; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:32:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199905031832.OAA10563@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:28:47 -0400 Subject: Re: T-shirt/Weekend Ride Comments Priority: normal In-reply-to: <85256766.005AED88.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) DJ, I guess you are referring to the ride on Saturday morning that I led. I tend to ride at a moderate pace, no matter how many sport bikes are following me! Faster riders are always welcome to go on ahead... doesn't bother me in the least (no testosterone here!). And as far as increasing your following distance, I don't see how that can be a bad thing.. especially when riding with people you don't know on unfamiliar roads! Better safe than sorry... ask Zbig about that sometime! Maybe you can lead the next ride! :-) Anita '96 Kawasaki GPZ1100 (newly certified MSF Instructor #28217 and hoping to be a safe, sane rider in training for many years to come) On 3 May 99, at 12:45, djones@XXXXXX wrote: > Hey DC-cyclists, > > I like the t-shirt, I just wish something had been printed on the back such > as "dc-cycles@XXXXXX", for those pulling up the rear would know who > we are. Just a thought. > > Also, I rode with the group for about an hour & the route was nice, but the > pace was a bit lacking. I was surprised to see so many sport bikes in the > group. This was a good thing, so I thought we would be traveling a bit > faster. Not break neck, but at a pace that would allow us to enter & exit > the curves without hitting the brakes so often due to the person ahead of > you. I found myselft trying to increase the following distance so that I > could get more out of the ride. Other than that, it was nice meeting you > guys & hopefully we can do it again soon sometime. > > Thanks, DJ > 97' Red/White Yamaha YZF1000R (Wheely Squid in Training) > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:34:35 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27110 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:34:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA20592 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:25:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 436; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:25:35 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990503142511.013192a0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 14:25:32 -0400 To: "Collin T. Fagan" , jnewman@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Rice boys (tm) was: Rabbit bait? In-Reply-To: <19990503181746.9147.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:17 PM 5/3/99 , Collin T. Fagan wrote: >I like the "No Fear" stickers too... so many times I've wanted to >invite one of them to ride two up with me through a stretch of road >like the mountains on 211, or for a lap or two around the >track...Wonder if they'd know fear then??? lol Know Collin....Know Fear ;-) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:33:41 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26968 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA14497 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA13525 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA11787 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:06:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id RAA15040 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 17:06:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 17:06:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Centreville Biker Down In-Reply-To: <19990503175020.17935.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII They have a REALLY evil one in ALexandria... it's got a speed sensor attatched to it. If you pass a point about 50 yrds previous to the light doing over 25mph, it triggers the light to go red. This is on Rt 7 near TC Williams high school. As for the sig... it's wrong. Old Town Alexandria has a series of light times like that... if you can keep 25mph all the way across town (Which is pretty much impossible unless it's 3am and all the tourist have gone home) you'll get all green. Anything other than that speed (higher or lower) won't work - you'll end up arriving too soon at some point in the series and have to stop. 70mph puts you at twice the speed, but it doesn't change the cyclic rate of the lights. Even if you went through the first light just as it turned yellow, at some point you would probably hit a light still in it's red cycle because your rate of travel exceeded a single cycle of all the lights' timing. - Brian (Geek who deals with way to much math evidentally) On Mon, 3 May 1999, Dale Horstman wrote: > > Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also > > timed for 70mph. > > You know, I've been thinking about this sig (everybody duck, > ol' Hork is thinking again!!). I don't think this is necessarily > true. Was out in Ogden, UT where they had a series of traffic > lights rigged for a nice steady 25 mph. If you got caught at one, > when it finally turned green, if you accelerated nice and steady > (for a cage) up to 25mph, the NEXT light would turn green just as > you got there. If you went any faster, you waited. Nobody ever > sped in town! For city traffic, it was almost cool! > > Dale (the Horkster) > > === > Dale Horstman (The Horkster) > the_horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > > "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet > sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:34:30 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27098 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA20788 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 11:26:35 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Monitor needed.. Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 11:26:15 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) So.. I need some help. Anyone have a monitor they're willing to donate, or sell for cheap to me? Umm.. I'll toss in dinner if you deliver it (Kinda hard to haul things like that around on the back of a motorcycle when one has a broken wrist). Barring that, anyone care to come pick me up and drive me to a Best Buy/Office Depot/computer store to buy a new one? I almost have a computer put together.. needing a monitor to finsh things up (like, the OS). Thanks.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:34:17 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27077 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:34:15 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA24694 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYR2LD9; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:55:56 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31RVBV; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:55:57 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256766.0067FBAF ; Mon, 3 May 1999 14:55:46 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: 2xracers@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256766.0067C2C2.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:53:38 -0400 Subject: Re: T-shirt/Weekend Ride Comments Point well taken.... DJ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:34:14 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27062 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:34:11 -0400 (EDT) From: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA26693 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:14:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905031914.PAA26693@bacardi.torrentnet.com> To: "Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:RE: High Speed on your Bike? Message-ID: <19990503151109639-19b2e9fd@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey... that wasn't the VFR.. that was the old VF500! This Memorial weekend we'll see what kind of numbers your VFR can run... :-) Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? Author: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Date: 5/3/99 11:24 AM The fastest I've taken my VFR so far is 120, but that was on a long straight on the Eastern shore where you could see for at least a mile. I, for one, do not feel safe taking blind curves very fast... I'm getting a lot faster on curves in general but I think I tend to go a bit slower than most DC Cycles riders over hills/blind curves, etc. I just always get this image in my head of a deer, child or car stopped in the road in front of me! Oh well...better safe than sorry, I guess that's the way I ride! : ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 _____________________________________________________________ This electronic message transmission contains information from the law firm Shaw Pittman Potts & Trowbridge that may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended solely for the recipient and use by any other party is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify us immediately by telephone (1.202.663.8000) or by electronic mail (postmaster@XXXXXX). Thank you. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:34:02 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27038 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:33:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay6.UU.NET (relay6.UU.NET [192.48.96.16]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29257 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:31:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgnqk08931; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:30:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256766.006B4D79 ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:32:01 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Tom Zell" cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Message-ID: <85256766.006B4C7A.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 15:22:10 -0400 Subject: Re:RE: High Speed on your Bike? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline LOL, you're right! hmmmm...I may have some higher numbers to report after May 31! So, how much faster do you think the VFR is than the babyceptor? - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Tom Zell" on 05/03/99 03:09:00 PM To: "Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX", "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re:RE: High Speed on your Bike? Hey... that wasn't the VFR.. that was the old VF500! This Memorial weekend we'll see what kind of numbers your VFR can run... :-) Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:34:09 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA27051 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA27859 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 15:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 3 May 1999 18:32:28 UT Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 15:16 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Was "High Speed on your Bike?" ... now graduation Message-ID: <19990503152009165-19bb2582@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think I've graduated to that point myself. Yesterday Jeannette and I went on a ride with a good friend of ours. He was really running the piss out of it (F3) on the straights but was running "ok" on the twisties. I gave chase a couple of times on the straights (including a quick drag race to show that CBR just what low-end torque really is)... I couldn't help it. But the twisties is where I wanted to turn the wick up and that's where I did most of my hooligan riding yesterday. The rest of the day was spent in the the 15-19mph over range. -Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? Author: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX (Jon Schumer) Date: 5/3/99 7:33 AM >I'm starting >to become more and more enamoured of the idea of "fast through the turns, >slower on the straights" that some people on the list have mentioned in the >past. >Chris Weaver >98 VTR 1000 Hey, what a concept huh? Congratulations on becoming a more mature, sportbike rider..... Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 18:33:50 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA26997 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:33:42 -0400 (EDT) From: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA06925 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 16:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 16:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905032023.QAA06925@bacardi.torrentnet.com> To: "christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:High Speed on your Bike? Message-ID: <19990503142008818-198435a7@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Now this is totally off the record for those types who would wish to prosecute.... :-) July 3rd last year coming home from the ride that Louis put on that left from Cycle Sport I managed to push the VFR to about 160mph (my speedo is dead on at those radar thingies on the GW Pkwy so it was pretty close to that). The reason I say "about" is because at that speed looking at the speedometer takes concentration of which I was saving for the task at hand. This was on I-66 between Rt. 55 and Rt. 234 going east bound. I have since lowered the gearing for more acceleration and the norm is more like 150mph. I don't do this often though (if at all) and I'm always worried about cops and such... last time I turned the wick up I almost got into a lot of trouble... just ask Lenzy (somewhere lurking)! -Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 19:00:37 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27806 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 19:00:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-117-94.s94.tnt12.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.117.94]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA29245 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 19:01:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: Questions about photography.. Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 19:03:41 -0400 Message-ID: <006201be95b9$2fa54040$3d3caccf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal FYI, a 1x1" picture will be amazingly fuzzy if you blow it up very big. 4"x6" might be ok, but the larger you go, the grainier it'll be. YMMV LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (55K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ ScooterFZR@XXXXXX said: In a message dated 5/3/1999 10:49:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, alexm@XXXXXX writes: << So. (A) Is this a fair price, (B) what are my odds of getting the negatives if I want them, (C) Is there any way I can get the little slide snippet thing blown up? >> My parents have been on a "pictorial geneology" kick lately and have purchased a special setup that let's you take pictures of pictures. They've taken pictures that were 1"x1" and had them made into 4"x6" with no problem. You just take the film into your favorite store and get them developed. You can easily have them blown up to poster size for less than $70. I think Wal-mart charges about $25. The only problem is if the picture has a studio-proof label stamped on it somewhere. Hope this helps. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 19:02:52 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27825 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 19:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.43]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:58:28 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX>, Subject: RE: Speed Limits in MD... Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 18:59:29 -0400 Message-ID: <005b01be95b8$993ebfa0$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <199905031441.KAA15407@radagast.wizard.net> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > But, here's my question... is it me, or are the speed limits on rural > roads in MD significantly lower than in VA? I mean, a road that > seemed to be the equivalent of Rte 50 west of Middleburg, had a 40 > mph limit. A nice road with good pavement, double yellow lines, > etc., winding past farms (i.e. not residential neighborhoods) had a > speed limit of 30 mph! I really had to keep my eye on my speed... > my usual cruising at 50-55 mph would have been a ticket for > reckless driving.. no thanks! :-) Ding, ding, ding, ding!!!! You are correct!! Why can't we Marylander's drive? Because the speed limits aren't high enough for us to figure it out. Why can't we drive? Because we've only got one eye on the road, the other looking out for 'the man'. Yes, even between Hagerstown and Cumberland, on I-68, the limit is a paltry 65 mph. Kinda makes you wonder how I got from Frostburg to Chaptico in 2:30 one night:) Not sure of the historical reasons, but Glendening and the state police have an unholy alliance: they can do whatever the f**k they want and he will keep the speed limits at an unreasonably low level. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 19:04:29 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA27865 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 19:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id SAA21334; Mon, 3 May 1999 18:03:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv10-45.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.173) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021114; Mon May 3 18:02:54 1999 Message-ID: <001201be95b8$de954c40$ad72d9ce@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: , References: <85256766.006464E4.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Subject: Re: Helmet Painting Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 19:01:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Scooter Trash, the artist name is Weeze,she is a traditional biker = artist with incredible talent, everything from abstracts to comics to = formal historical murals at 304-264-0267, 249 N. queens St in = Martinsburg, until the new shop opens.....Has done some GoldWings and = glides with matching helmets that were just spectacular. Can guarantee = you that if you go to custom shows in the Mid-Atlantic area, you have = seen some of her work. Good luck...=20 Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 2:18 PM Subject: Helmet Painting > Hi, >=20 > Any recommendations for a helmet artist. The guy I usually use is = booked so > I'm looking for referrals. >=20 > Thanks, DJ >=20 >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 19:15:03 1999 Return-Path: okan1262@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA28107 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 19:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-57-67.s67.tnt2.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-57-67.s67.tnt2.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.57.67]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA05704 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 19:16:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.erols.com: 207-172-57-67.s67.tnt2.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.57.67] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <372E2F3B.1F4C@erols.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 19:20:27 -0400 From: Okan Seremetoglu Reply-To: okan1262@XXXXXX Organization: The American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Tickets For Sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is happening these days on the streets of Virginia and Marland. Is the accident rate on these two states went up or what. Every corner you look there is a police car or motorcyle waiting to bust your ass(pardon me ladies). I just got a speeding ticket in Maryland River Road. The funny thing is that there were 5 cars surronding me and we all were going at the same speed. So I was going with the flow of traffic. The cop pulls me over says you are doing 65 in a 45 zone. I say everybody around me was doing the same why in the hell you pulled me over and not the other cars. He says I catched you. By the way as I was arguing he kept on saying "I catched you, I catched you" to every one of my question(I think they are getting dummer too nowadays) By the way he said that in order to appeal in MD, he said you just don't pay the ticket and the county will send you a court date. I never got a ticket in MD, do you guys know if that is true?? Okan 98 F3 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 20:22:32 1999 Return-Path: harris@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29682 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 20:22:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA07055 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 20:22:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (harris.his.com [205.252.80.17]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA29190 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 20:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990503201618.008b71b0@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:16:18 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Rice boys (tm) was: Rabbit bait? In-Reply-To: <19990503181746.9147.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:17 AM 5/3/99 -0700, Collin T. Fagan wrote: >I like the "No Fear" stickers too... so many times I've wanted to If anybody has "No Fear" it is because they aren't going fast enough. Which brings to mind (I forget who it was on the dc cycles list) that team named "Know Fear Racing" which I always thought was one the best names for a racing team. Right up there with Nancy Delgado's all womyn racing team "Team Lickity Split" ...:-) Harris Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 20:39:56 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29940 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 20:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.239.191.81]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA22358; Mon, 3 May 1999 20:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <372E6D07.32EF@mnsinc.com> Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:44:07 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: High Speed on your Bike? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX declared: > The fastest I've taken my VFR so far is 120, but that was on a long straight on > the Eastern shore where you could see for at least a mile. I, for one, do not > feel safe taking blind curves very fast... I'm getting a lot faster on curves > in general but I think I tend to go a bit slower than most DC Cycles riders over > hills/blind curves, etc. I just always get this image in my head of a deer, > child or car stopped in the road in front of me! Oh well...better safe than > sorry, I guess that's the way I ride! : ) Jeannette, I feel exactly as you describe yourself here (never mind that your husband corrected you in public that it was the VF500 instead of your VFR - details, details ;) I've never been faster than 120 or so (indicated) and I am simply paranoid about blind hills or curves; I get the same type image in my head too - only I imagine a friggin' drunk in a cage. "Expect the unexpected" is my motto here. Why take a dumb chance? Maybe it's just my increasing years :) Nothing like experience (and a couple of falls) to humble a person... JK From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 20:41:45 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA29986 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 20:41:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup125.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.196.129]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0FB600D71N8GT9@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:41:12 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 20:40:19 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Tickets For Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <008301be95a5$2de24aa0$81c43ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal > By the way he said that in order to appeal in MD, he said you just >don't pay the ticket and the county will send you a court date. I never >got a ticket in MD, do you guys know if that is true?? >Okan >98 F3 Yup, that's how you get a court date in MD is just wait for the summons to come in the mail. It usually takes them about 8 months or so. Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 21:17:04 1999 Return-Path: dreamer@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA00675 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 21:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brat.knowhere.net (p3.a7.du.radix.net [207.192.132.3]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA03412; Mon, 3 May 1999 21:16:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905040116.VAA03412@mail1.radix.net> X-Sender: dreamer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 21:13:26 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Subject: Law Ride 99 Cc: Jeffrey Dunkle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; types="text/plain,text/html"; boundary="=====================_5547020==_.ALT" --=====================_5547020==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just curious.... anyone planning on participating in the Law Rides this weekend? I'm thinking about going on Sunday http://www.crosslink.net/~SoFCEMS/lawride.htm=20 Law Ride=AE Home Page=20 Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX '96 Virago 1100 Special, KnowMad --=====================_5547020==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
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 --=====================_5547020==_.ALT-- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 22:14:12 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01549 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-207.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.207]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA14797 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:14:05 -0400 Message-ID: <168f01be95d3$ae876720$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: OC+ trip report Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:12:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_168C_01BE95B2.10619320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_168C_01BE95B2.10619320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seeing as how summer may finally come around (another month or two, if = we're lucky) and people can be mulling an Eastern Shore or beach trip, = here are observations on my weekend Ocean City/Dewey sojourn (the = purpose being a major windsurfing demo show at Dewey Beach). =20 Friday 9:30 AM -- all weather reports good with some indication of = necessary breezes. Depart with smile on face, excuses made and gear = packed high. =20 Pager goes off near Annapolis. Stop at McD's, make effort to make = checkin call. Wrong number. Get out $2.50 toll and make it handy for = bridge.=20 One lane of bridge shut for maintenance, then off-season traffic very = easy clear through to OC on 50. Breezes increase to NE 20-25 giving = strong sidewind buffeting and weaving. Ride the left. Temps drop, put = on glove covers. Must have looked dui crossing the Rte 90 bridge into = OC: Breezes probably up to 30 and gusty. Bike handles better at speed. = ??? Fri in OC, Sat/Sun in Dewey, windsurf, sleep, eat, bike. Terrific = spring windsurfing conditions. Put hole in rented board when launched = by gust in OC. Currently negotiating damage cost. =20 Lots of blowing sand, dust. Swear that next time will take bike cover, = a promise made in past. Continually search for sheltered parking = (plenty, this time of year). Heard reports that Bridge/Tunnel at = Norfolk closed for winds. =20 Gear management the name of the game -- changing on beach, managing = bags, etc.. In and out of Roadcrafter, drysuit gear, street clothes all = weekend. Decide to commit next life to developing stylish = abrasion-resistant drysuit and booties that dry immediately. =20 Sunday up at 6:30a. Wx channel says nasty offshore low heading NE going = to shift in and effect Delmarva coast later on. Decide to tear myself = away at noon after 3 days prime windsurfing. Find place to wash bike, = but end up 100ft of shortcut away because of odd roadway configuration. = Take shortcut, feel like Steve McQueen. Wash bike and windshield, new = world ahead visible. Water stops stickon clock. No signs of sand = pitting, thank heaven. =20 Stopped by all lights coming out of Dewey on Rte. 1. That's a-l-l. = All. After the 3rd or so and trying to time them realized it's trap to = keep Sunday leavers another night. Hunker down and eventually reach 404 = turnoff. =20 404 last travelled by me about 10 years ago. Again recall the two-lane = 55 limit portions of this road, and the limit-obeying traffic during = peak travel times, as gruesome. Consider seriously evaluating alternate = routes and timing.=20 Still-heavy ENE breezes better at the back. Route 50 traffic moderate, = have one gas stop left just east of Bay Bridge and home clear (assuming = bridge breezes not awful). =20 Just over Kent Narrows, run into major traffic clog -- cause ??? Turn = off for gas at shiny new Exxon station -- and no towels at the pumps for = cleaning up spills. Arrrrghgh. Have a spicy hotdog, Hershey bar, head = back out into jam. About 3 miles from Bridge and traffic inching. = Accident? What? Very sparse traffic in facing lanes also. Plod away, = left arm getting a workout, glad have watercooled bike, for about half = hour. Recall possible maintenance causing tieups. =20 Past Romancoke road when I see goings on ahead and it dawns. The Bay = Bridge Walk. The south span shut down since 5a for hikers, 10,000 later = heard. Silly me. Heard about this weeks ago, and it happens every = year. Am marking next year's calendar. =20 Speed picks up, cross the bridge (breezes only 8-12 by looks of water) = easily, notice lots of police. Others must have noticed also, because = Rte 50 traffic home about 80-85 (all the police busy at the bridge, = right). And with a tailwind -- Wheeee. =20 Home. Some other traveling, but the capper -- in the elevator, a lady = looks at my Roadcrafter and says "Oh, are you a helicopter pilot". A = couple of times today I wished, but not to detract from a great trip. =20 Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> jibes better than tacks Join the AMA. 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Seeing as how summer = may finally come=20 around (another month or two, if we're lucky) and people can be mulling = an=20 Eastern Shore or beach trip, here are observations on my weekend Ocean=20 City/Dewey sojourn (the purpose being a major windsurfing demo show at = Dewey=20 Beach). 
 
Friday 9:30 AM -- all = weather reports=20 good with some indication of necessary breezes.  Depart with smile = on face,=20 excuses made and gear packed high. 
 
Pager goes off near = Annapolis. =20 Stop at McD's, make effort to make checkin call.  Wrong = number.  Get=20 out $2.50 toll and make it handy for bridge. 
 
One lane of bridge shut = for=20 maintenance, then off-season traffic very easy clear through to OC on = 50. =20 Breezes increase to NE 20-25 giving strong sidewind buffeting and = weaving. =20 Ride the left.  Temps drop, put on glove covers.  Must have = looked dui=20 crossing the Rte 90 bridge into OC: Breezes probably up to 30 and = gusty. =20 Bike handles better at speed.  ???
 
Fri in OC, Sat/Sun in = Dewey,=20 windsurf, sleep, eat, bike.  Terrific spring windsurfing = conditions. =20 Put hole in rented board when launched by gust in OC.  Currently=20 negotiating damage cost. 
 
Lots of blowing sand, = dust. =20 Swear that next time will take bike cover, a promise made in past.  = Continually search for sheltered parking (plenty, this time of = year). =20 Heard reports that Bridge/Tunnel at Norfolk closed for winds. =20
 
Gear management the = name of the game=20 -- changing on beach, managing bags, etc..  In and out of = Roadcrafter,=20 drysuit gear, street clothes all weekend.  Decide to commit next = life to=20 developing stylish abrasion-resistant drysuit and booties that dry=20 immediately. 
 
Sunday up at 6:30a.  Wx channel = says nasty=20 offshore low heading NE going to shift in and effect Delmarva coast = later=20 on.  Decide to tear myself away at noon after 3 days prime=20 windsurfing.  Find place to wash bike, but end up 100ft of shortcut = away=20 because of odd roadway configuration.  Take shortcut, feel like = Steve=20 McQueen.  Wash bike and windshield, new world ahead visible.  = Water=20 stops stickon clock.  No signs of sand pitting, thank heaven.  =
 
Stopped by all lights coming out of = Dewey on Rte.=20 1.  That's a-l-l.  All.  After the 3rd or so and trying = to time=20 them realized it's trap to keep Sunday leavers another night.  = Hunker down=20 and eventually reach 404 turnoff. 
 
404 last travelled by me about 10 years = ago. =20 Again recall the two-lane 55 limit portions of this road, and the = limit-obeying=20 traffic during peak travel times, as gruesome.  Consider seriously=20 evaluating alternate routes and timing.
 
Still-heavy ENE breezes = better at the=20 back.  Route 50 traffic = moderate, have one=20 gas stop left just east of Bay Bridge and home clear (assuming bridge = breezes=20 not awful). 
 
Just over Kent Narrows, run into major = traffic clog=20 -- cause ???  Turn off for gas at shiny new Exxon station -- and no = towels=20 at the pumps for cleaning up spills.  Arrrrghgh.  Have a spicy = hotdog,=20 Hershey bar, head back out into jam.  About 3 miles from Bridge and = traffic=20 inching.  Accident?  What?  Very sparse traffic in facing = lanes=20 also.  Plod away, left arm getting a workout, glad have watercooled = bike,=20 for about half hour.  Recall possible maintenance causing = tieups. =20
 
Past Romancoke road when I see goings = on ahead and=20 it dawns.  The Bay Bridge Walk.  The south span shut down = since 5a for=20 hikers, 10,000 later heard.  Silly me.  Heard about this weeks = ago,=20 and it happens every year.  Am marking next year's calendar. =20
 
Speed picks up, cross the bridge = (breezes only 8-12=20 by looks of water) easily, notice lots of police.  Others must have = noticed=20 also, because Rte 50 traffic home about 80-85 (all the police busy at = the=20 bridge, right).  And with a tailwind -- Wheeee. 
 
Home.  Some other = traveling, but=20 the capper -- in the elevator, a lady looks at my Roadcrafter and says = "Oh,=20 are you a helicopter pilot".  A couple of times today I = wished, but=20 not to detract from a great trip. 
 
Bill S. / DC
99 = VN750 --> jibes=20 better than tacks
Join the AMA.  = Help protect my=20 riding fun.
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_168C_01BE95B2.10619320-- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 22:15:10 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01600 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA16841 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.253.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA18356 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:15:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA11906; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:14:53 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma011904; Mon, 3 May 99 22:14:40 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990503221308.00946f00@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:13:55 -0400 To: Brian Roach , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: Centreville Biker Down In-Reply-To: References: <19990503175020.17935.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:06 PM 5/3/99 -0400, Brian Roach wrote: >As for the sig... it's wrong. Old Town Alexandria has a series >of light times like that... if you can keep 25mph all the >way across town (Which is pretty much impossible unless it's >3am and all the tourist have gone home) you'll get all green. Its just a sig - not a way of life ;-) >- Brian >(Geek who deals with way to much math evidentally) hehehe. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 22:19:47 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from gecko.troutman.org (root@XXXXXX [209.122.253.133]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA01620 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA11913 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:19:23 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma011911; Mon, 3 May 99 22:18:53 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990503221754.009bdb90@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 22:18:46 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: Tickets For Sale In-Reply-To: <008301be95a5$2de24aa0$81c43ea6@0302104396168270> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:40 PM 5/3/99 +0000, Jon Schumer wrote: >> By the way he said that in order to appeal in MD, he said you just >>don't pay the ticket and the county will send you a court date. I never >>got a ticket in MD, do you guys know if that is true?? >>Okan >>98 F3 > > >Yup, that's how you get a court date in MD is just wait for the summons to >come in the mail. It usually takes them about 8 months or so. And if you decide to fight it - the fact that you were all going the same speed will not help you. Find another defense ;-) _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 23:33:38 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00501 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 23:33:36 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA21968 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (8079) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nVYFa24272; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:35:17 EDT Subject: Re: Questions about photography.. To: ljtanner@XXXXXX, DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Ahhhhhh.....but that's where multiple pics come in handy. You take a pic of a 1"x1" and blow it up. Take a pic of the blown up pic and so on. You should see some of my mother's 8"x10"s taken from 1"x1"s. JMHO. Scooter In a message dated 5/3/1999 7:10:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ljtanner@XXXXXX writes: << FYI, a 1x1" picture will be amazingly fuzzy if you blow it up very big. 4"x6" might be ok, but the larger you go, the grainier it'll be. YMMV LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (55K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ >> From dc-cycles-request Mon May 3 23:33:40 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA00503 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 23:33:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA22079 for ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:38:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.34]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 3 May 1999 22:33:36 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , Subject: RE: Tickets For Sale Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 22:34:38 -0400 Message-ID: <006201be95d6$a81d8740$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <372E2F3B.1F4C@erols.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > By the way he said that in order to appeal in MD, he said you just > don't pay the ticket and the county will send you a court date. I never > got a ticket in MD, do you guys know if that is true?? That is one option. The other is to mail in the form on the back of the ticket with one of two blocks checked. First is 'not guilty'. The second is 'guilty with an explanation'. I got lucky once and did the latter. Got the same treatment as the guys who plead 'not guilty'. BUT, I've heard stories that there are many judges who just ignore the 'with an explanation' part and just listen to the guilty part. My advice: Ignore it and wait for the summons. If you are out of state, sometimes the cop just tosses the ticket (again, don't expect it. It MIGHT happen.) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 00:09:11 1999 Return-Path: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01119 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:09:10 -0400 (EDT) From: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from SKPAH@XXXXXX (14389) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id jJACa15860; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:07:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 00:07:18 EDT Subject: Re: Powder coating? To: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 hi perry, one of the best places in the dc metro area is american stripping in manassas, va as far as i know, they still do powder coating of wheels, frames, and any other similar parts,....the proprietor is(used to be) a guy named jamie and does very good work at a more than competitive price..... good luck, steve ''77 cb400f From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 00:11:09 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA01132 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:11:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA09401; Tue, 4 May 1999 00:13:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001901be95e4$861d45a0$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: "mobacc" , "Dc Cycles" References: <168f01be95d3$ae876720$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> Subject: Re: OC+ trip report Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 00:13:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE95C2.FE855EA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE95C2.FE855EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now that's pretty cool... -Tom '86 VFR750 >>> snip >>>> Home. Some other traveling, but the capper -- in the elevator, a lady = looks at my Roadcrafter and says "Oh, are you a helicopter pilot". A = couple of times today I wished, but not to detract from a great trip. =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE95C2.FE855EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now that's pretty cool...
 
-Tom
'86 VFR750
>>> snip=20 >>>>
Home.  Some = other traveling,=20 but the capper -- in the elevator, a lady looks at my Roadcrafter and = says=20 "Oh, are you a helicopter pilot".  A couple of times today I = wished, but=20 not to detract from a great trip. 
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01BE95C2.FE855EA0-- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 06:22:04 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA08209 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 06:22:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (7992) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yCSIa26070; Tue, 4 May 1999 06:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 06:20:53 EDT Subject: Re: High Speed on your Bike? To: jckozyn@XXXXXX, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/3/99 8:47:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jckozyn@XXXXXX writes: << Why take a dumb chance? Maybe it's just my increasing years :) Nothing like experience (and a couple of falls) to humble a person... >> With a bike I trust, I will occasionally take it to or close to red line in top gear, which on one of my bike's is about 120 while on another it is claimed to be above 170. I don't take "dumb" chances and usually have a clear view of the road for at least a mile. You have got to remember that what many of you consider outrageously fast for the street here is what many cruise at in many countries in Europe. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 07:51:43 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA09539 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 07:51:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 4 May 1999 11:51:41 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA03001 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 07:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 07:51:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Well, he turned out cool after all.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I gave him a ring, and he was willing to knock almost $20 off the price of two, so thats a very good thing. The second was half price to begin with, so instead of $105, its more like $90... He also sells the negatives for $25 each. Which seems *very* reasonable because the pictures are nicely taken. I didn't ask about that till after I had agreed to order the posters, so I kinda didn't want to be like "Oh, wow, thats cheap. Um, in that case, forget the posters, I'm gonna take it to sears!" At any rate. He's a very nice & reasonable guy, and $25 for the negatives seems quite fair. Just figured I'd follow up since a lot of you were nice enough to reply - I gotta keep asking the crap I dont know about on here... So anyway, where do babies come from? Alex. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 08:14:40 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09854 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 08:14:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA25727 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 08:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA24766 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 08:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905041213.IAA24766@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:16:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: JohnDavid Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) I am trying to get an e-mail to John David at Fast Lane Cycles, can anyone help me with his e-mail address. Thanks, Danny '99 VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 08:15:29 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09933 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 08:15:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 4 May 1999 05:14:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Leon's bike.. Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 05:14:19 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Hey Leon.. You have a clock/stopwatch and Voltmeter(?) on your bike? It was the longish, skinny thing across the bars on your dash (I looked at it all to briefly at the track). I was curious where you found that... it's beginning to look like something I'd really like to have on my bike (old bikes, lots of electrical issues). Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 08:57:50 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10559 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 08:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA00960 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 08:57:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AEC0ECE0214; Tue, 04 May 1999 08:57:36 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990504075139.0131e7b0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 07:52:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Rice boys (tm) was: Rabbit bait? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990503142511.013192a0@mail.wheatintl.com> References: <19990503181746.9147.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:25 PM 5/3/99 , Mike Troutman wrote: > >Know Collin....Know Fear ;-) No Collin, no fear? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 08:57:53 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10562 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 08:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA00965 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 08:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AEC7ECE0214; Tue, 04 May 1999 08:57:43 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990504075616.012ec260@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 07:59:04 -0400 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Tickets For Sale In-Reply-To: <006201be95d6$a81d8740$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> References: <372E2F3B.1F4C@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >My advice: Ignore it and wait for the summons. If you are out of state, >sometimes the cop just tosses the ticket (again, don't expect it. It MIGHT >happen.) If you ignore it, you will be found guilty of the charge. You will also be charged with failure to appear and a bench warrant will be issued for your arrest. A bench warrant means they won't bother looking for you but the next time they come across you your ass is theirs. Surprising though it may seem to some people, judges do not like people who show contempt for their court and our laws. If you get a ticket, either fight it or pay it, don't ignore it. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 09:05:44 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10766 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:05:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23493 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:05:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Tickets For Sale In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990504075616.012ec260@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 May 1999, Chris Norloff wrote: > >My advice: Ignore it and wait for the summons. If you are out of state, > >sometimes the cop just tosses the ticket (again, don't expect it. It MIGHT > >happen.) > > If you ignore it, you will be found guilty of the charge. You've misunderstood. "Ignoring" the ticket simply means waiting for the summons. MD will issue a court date if you do not send the ticket in. All of this is described on tickets issued in MD. No warrant will be served or any other extreme stuff unless you miss the court date. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 09:09:25 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10784 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:09:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA02253 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990504131043.18090.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web302.yahoomail.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 06:10:43 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 06:10:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: JohnDavid To: Danny Thompson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Danny, John David is bikesrus@XXXXXX and he works for Cycle Sport in Herndon. Very nice guy and good shop/sales. Fast Lane Cycles is run by Rick Beggs ( the green kawasaki's with the number 1 plate on them that were pitted right next to me at Summit). His email is fastlanecycles@XXXXXX or phone (703) 818-8890 He sponsors my racing effort to an extent, so anyone calling them, it would be greatly appreciated if you drop my name once or twice as reference.. Collin --- Danny Thompson wrote: > I am trying to get an e-mail to John David at Fast Lane Cycles, can > anyone help me with his e-mail address. > > Thanks, > Danny > '99 VFR > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 09:11:48 1999 Return-Path: jip98@XXXXXX Received: from amerchem.acs.org (amerchem.acs.org [208.209.231.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10807 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wash58.acs.org by wash24 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA22653; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:08:01 -0400 Received: by WASH58 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id <27A040SH>; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:10:53 -0400 Message-Id: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE96D5E8@WASH58> From: Jason Picton To: "'Mike T'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Tickets For Sale Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:10:53 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Actually the fact that all the other cars were traveling as fast might work as a defense. The reason behind Speed Limits was to create a unified speed where everybody could travel safely. If you were on you bike, and were ONLY keeping up with traffic and NOT PASSING ANYONE. You can make a case that if you had not moved at traffic speed, that you would have been putting your self at risk. This can work if you have a clean driving record, and have been riding long enough to demonstrate that you COULD ride with traffic at that speed without putting yourself or others at risk. In essence, moving at traffic speed was the safest course of action for everyone. The question I would ask - If you were on your bike and the others were in cars - Why did the cop pull you over. If you can prove that the cop has a bias against bikers, you can usually get off. You can get a list of the tickets that the cop has given for the last couple of months (this is a pain in the ass). If the cop has a high percentage of giving bikers tickets, you might be able to get it thrown out of court. Here are some other tips to beat the ticket: (snip) When you receive your new court date, you'd better start preparing your case seriously. Go to your local library and find information about the specifics of your court. If you have time, you may borrow some law books on the topic of traffic offences. There you will find a lot more information and previous case laws, but the shortcoming to these books is that they are written for lawyers. You may find them containing plenty of law jargons. However, with some background knowledge after reading this page, you will find these books very valuable to help you fight your ticket. The best chance of finding these law books is from a university library, especially a university with a law school. You might have very little luck in a local or municipal library. Here are some very good books to read: "The Law of Traffic Offences", by Scott C. Hutchison & John G. Marko, published by Carswell, 1989. "The Law on Speeding and Radar", by A. Shakoor Manraj & Paul D. Haines, published by Butterworths, 1991. The reason why you should read on some of the law books is that these contain a gold mine of information. You may have noticed that the actual official law book, the Highway Traffic Act, is very vague in a lot of respects. For example, it doesn't say anything about using radar to detect speed. There are no written laws which says how a police officer should be trained in order to be a qualified radar operator. These laws are established, through a rather "non-standard" way, by previous relevant cases. These laws are called "case laws". They are essentially decisions made by Judges or Justices in the past, which will be referenced by later court cases of the same nature. The above two suggested books contain a lot of those relevant case laws, which will be very useful for your defence. The next thing to do is to file a motion to the Provincial Prosecutor's office to request a disclosure of the prosecution's evidence. You have every right to see what the prosecution has against you. When you request a disclosure, be very specific of what you need. Just saying "please send me your evidence that you will be relying upon" will result in a lot of important information missing from the disclosure. If the prosecutor receives something like this, the most they would do is make a copy of the ticket (if you are lucky you may get both sides of the officer's copy ) and send it to you, which you may already have. You should be very specific. Make a short list if possible. Here is a list of "must haves" if you intend to win: both sides of the officer's copy of the ticket the make, model, and serial number of the radar unit, and its owner's manual the officer's training record specific to the said radar unit the calibration record and repair history of the said radar unit the records of any calibration equipment such as tuning forks the officer's log on the alleged offence day, including all tickets he had written on that day If you ask for the radar manual, they will say this is copyrighted material and will refuse to send it to you. However, you can ask for the brand, model and manufacturer of the radar unit used in the citation, and contact the manufacturer yourself. One important note is, when you send any motion to the Prosecutor's office, make sure you send it by registered mail. This way they cannot claim that they have never received it because they must sign for it. If they failed to send you the information you requested, or the disclosure is incomplete, you can send a second motion requesting the missing information. If it also fails after the second attempt you should bring out this issue to the justice of the peace on the day of the trial, and move for a dismissal due to a lack of disclosure. Remember to bring your receipt from the post office. Carefully examine the officer's notes and see what he has written down. You might have a hard time reading his hand writing, as this is not intended for anyone but himself to read. If you didn't make a big mess when he pulled you over, he is not likely to write much down. Do this well in advance to allow yourself ample time to prepare your case. Prepare your questions for cross-examination of the cop, and ask a friend to practise it with you a few times. If you have time, attend some court sessions as a spectator to see how proceedings work. What if you have waited for a very long time but never receive the court date? Or what if your trial date is scheduled months away from the date you were cited? This is very good for you. ANY PERSON CHARGED WITH AN OFFENCE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE TRIED WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME. No matter what, you are in a very good position indeed. Although there is no absolute time limit of the delay of your trial, the court has violated your right if you are scheduled more than 8 months away. That explains why you have to fight every traffic ticket in order to jack up the cases the courts have to handle. If everything is so backed up, all motorists are looking at a very bright future. Jason -----Original Message----- From: Mike T [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 10:19 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tickets For Sale At 08:40 PM 5/3/99 +0000, Jon Schumer wrote: >> By the way he said that in order to appeal in MD, he said you just >>don't pay the ticket and the county will send you a court date. I never >>got a ticket in MD, do you guys know if that is true?? >>Okan >>98 F3 > > >Yup, that's how you get a court date in MD is just wait for the summons to >come in the mail. It usually takes them about 8 months or so. And if you decide to fight it - the fact that you were all going the same speed will not help you. Find another defense ;-) _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 09:26:18 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11077 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA24735 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:26:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27296 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:26:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgntd18512; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:25:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256767.0049FE39 ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:28:12 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Jordan Michael" cc: DC-Cycles Message-ID: <85256767.0049FDA1.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:18:06 -0400 Subject: Re: No Fear Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I want that shirt!!!! LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Jordan Michael" on 05/03/99 02:21:12 PM To: DC-Cycles cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: No Fear Saw (on a t-shirt at Summit Point) "If you have No Fear you just haven't gone fast enough" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 09:28:55 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11151 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA04891 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:28:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 4 May 1999 12:38:07 UT Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 9:26 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Rice boys (tm) was: Rabbit bait? Message-ID: <19990504092912174-1da033a3@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii LOL... Tom ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Rice boys (tm) was: Rabbit bait? Author: harris@XXXXXX (Stephen Harris) Date: 5/3/99 8:16 PM At 11:17 AM 5/3/99 -0700, Collin T. Fagan wrote: >I like the "No Fear" stickers too... so many times I've wanted to If anybody has "No Fear" it is because they aren't going fast enough. Which brings to mind (I forget who it was on the dc cycles list) that team named "Know Fear Racing" which I always thought was one the best names for a racing team. Right up there with Nancy Delgado's all womyn racing team "Team Lickity Split" ...:-) Harris Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 09:35:27 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11309 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com ([209.135.198.107]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id JAA10577; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990504092939.006b725c@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 09:29:39 -0400 To: Jason Picton , "'Mike T'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: RE: Tickets For Sale In-Reply-To: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE96D5E8@WASH58> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FYI, true story. If you got the ticket on River Road in Montgomery county: There is one female judge for Montgomery County who was a Playboy Bunny in the 70's. If you recognize her and mention it she will throw your case out of emabarresment. Lisa At 09:10 AM 5/4/99 -0400, Jason Picton wrote: >Actually the fact that all the other cars were traveling as fast might work >as a defense. The reason behind Speed Limits was to create a unified speed >where everybody could travel safely. If you were on you bike, and were ONLY >keeping up with traffic and NOT PASSING ANYONE. You can make a case that if >you had not moved at traffic speed, that you would have been putting your >self at risk. >This can work if you have a clean driving record, and have been riding long >enough to demonstrate that you COULD ride with traffic at that speed without >putting yourself or others at risk. In essence, moving at traffic speed was >the safest course of action for everyone. > >The question I would ask - If you were on your bike and the others were in >cars - Why did the cop pull you over. If you can prove that the cop has a >bias against bikers, you can usually get off. You can get a list of the >tickets that the cop has given for the last couple of months (this is a pain >in the ass). If the cop has a high percentage of giving bikers tickets, you >might be able to get it thrown out of court. > >Here are some other tips to beat the ticket: > >(snip) > >When you receive your new court date, you'd better start preparing your case >seriously. Go to your local library and find information about the specifics >of your court. If you have time, you may borrow some law books on the topic >of traffic offences. There you will find a lot more information and previous >case laws, but the shortcoming to these books is that they are written for >lawyers. You may find them containing plenty of law jargons. However, with >some background knowledge after reading this page, you will find these books >very valuable to help you fight your ticket. The best chance of finding >these law books is from a university library, especially a university with a >law school. You might have very little luck in a local or municipal library. >Here are some very good books to read: > >"The Law of Traffic Offences", by Scott C. Hutchison & John G. Marko, >published by Carswell, 1989. >"The Law on Speeding and Radar", by A. Shakoor Manraj & Paul D. Haines, >published by Butterworths, 1991. > >The reason why you should read on some of the law books is that these >contain a gold mine of information. You may have noticed that the actual >official law book, the Highway Traffic Act, is very vague in a lot of >respects. For example, it doesn't say anything about using radar to detect >speed. There are no written laws which says how a police officer should be >trained in order to be a qualified radar operator. These laws are >established, through a rather "non-standard" way, by previous relevant >cases. These laws are called "case laws". They are essentially decisions >made by Judges or Justices in the past, which will be referenced by later >court cases of the same nature. The above two suggested books contain a lot >of those relevant case laws, which will be very useful for your defence. > >The next thing to do is to file a motion to the Provincial Prosecutor's >office to request a disclosure of the prosecution's evidence. You have every >right to see what the prosecution has against you. When you request a >disclosure, be very specific of what you need. Just saying "please send me >your evidence that you will be relying upon" will result in a lot of >important information missing from the disclosure. If the prosecutor >receives something like this, the most they would do is make a copy of the >ticket (if you are lucky you may get both sides of the officer's copy ) and >send it to you, which you may already have. You should be very specific. >Make a short list if possible. Here is a list of "must haves" if you intend >to win: > >both sides of the officer's copy of the ticket >the make, model, and serial number of the radar unit, and its owner's manual > >the officer's training record specific to the said radar unit >the calibration record and repair history of the said radar unit >the records of any calibration equipment such as tuning forks >the officer's log on the alleged offence day, including all tickets he had >written on that day >If you ask for the radar manual, they will say this is copyrighted material >and will refuse to send it to you. However, you can ask for the brand, model >and manufacturer of the radar unit used in the citation, and contact the >manufacturer yourself. > >One important note is, when you send any motion to the Prosecutor's office, >make sure you send it by registered mail. This way they cannot claim that >they have never received it because they must sign for it. If they failed to >send you the information you requested, or the disclosure is incomplete, you >can send a second motion requesting the missing information. If it also >fails after the second attempt you should bring out this issue to the >justice of the peace on the day of the trial, and move for a dismissal due >to a lack of disclosure. Remember to bring your receipt from the post >office. > >Carefully examine the officer's notes and see what he has written down. You >might have a hard time reading his hand writing, as this is not intended for >anyone but himself to read. If you didn't make a big mess when he pulled you >over, he is not likely to write much down. Do this well in advance to allow >yourself ample time to prepare your case. Prepare your questions for >cross-examination of the cop, and ask a friend to practise it with you a few >times. If you have time, attend some court sessions as a spectator to see >how proceedings work. > > >What if you have waited for a very long time but never receive the court >date? Or what if your trial date is scheduled months away from the date you >were cited? This is very good for you. ANY PERSON CHARGED WITH AN OFFENCE >HAS THE RIGHT TO BE TRIED WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME. No matter what, you are >in a very good position indeed. Although there is no absolute time limit of >the delay of your trial, the court has violated your right if you are >scheduled more than 8 months away. That explains why you have to fight every >traffic ticket in order to jack up the cases the courts have to handle. If >everything is so backed up, all motorists are looking at a very bright >future. > >Jason > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike T [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] >Sent: Monday, May 03, 1999 10:19 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Tickets For Sale > > >At 08:40 PM 5/3/99 +0000, Jon Schumer wrote: >>> By the way he said that in order to appeal in MD, he said you just >>>don't pay the ticket and the county will send you a court date. I never >>>got a ticket in MD, do you guys know if that is true?? >>>Okan >>>98 F3 >> >> >>Yup, that's how you get a court date in MD is just wait for the summons to >>come in the mail. It usually takes them about 8 months or so. > >And if you decide to fight it - the fact that you were all going the same >speed will not help you. Find another defense ;-) > > >_____________________________________ > Mike Troutman > mike@XXXXXX > http://www.troutman.org > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > Lisa Goddard Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 09:38:58 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11323 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:38:58 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (8050) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id aRDa004813; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:37:18 EDT Subject: Re: Well, he turned out cool after all.. To: alexm@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/4/1999 7:59:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, alexm@XXXXXX writes: << So anyway, where do babies come from? Alex. >> Well....When a man and a woman really like each other......Ummmmm......gotta go. My pants just got a little tighter thinking about this. You figure it out. :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 09:40:42 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11336 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A8D1DD40264; Tue, 04 May 1999 09:40:33 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990504092951.01322510@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 09:39:15 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Kill a Biker, Get that Highway Named after You Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Remember that Tennessee legislator that killed a biker, ran away, got indicted by a grand jury, then died? Tennessee has passed a law to name that highway after him! Here's my letter, AMA article to follow- **************************************************************************** ****** Dear Senator Clabough, I'm writing to protest your action in designating Hwy 321 as the Koella Memorial Highway, since Senator Koella killed a man on that road. Senator Koella turned in front of Terry Barnard and killed him, then stopped and got out of his van, then ran away rather than render aid or identify himself. To now name Barnard's killing field after Senator Koella is outrageous. To put things in perspective - our country has spent a lot of time asking "what's wrong" after the school killings in Littleton, Colorado. How do you justify to people how a killer can be "honored" by having his killing highway named after him? respectfully, Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia **************************************************************************** ******* http://www.ama-cycle.org/magazine/1999/story1je.html Greg Harrison Column (gharrison@XXXXXX) A Monumental Mistake June 1999 I’ve seen a lot of outrageous things happen in politics since I’ve been working here, but this tops them all. It’s the equivalent of issuing a series of O.J. Simpson autographed steak knives. And no, this isn’t a joke. What I’m talking about is the latest twist in a case you’ve read about here before. It’s the case of Tennessee Sen. Carl Koella. If you don’t know the original story, read on. If you do, stick with me--you need to hear what’s happening now. The story begins on a late afternoon in October 1996, when AMA member Terry Barnard was touring on his motorcycle along U.S. Route 321 in Blount County, Tennessee, southeast of Knoxville. Terry had ridden down from Ohio to enjoy the great roads and fall colors in the Smoky Mountains. That ride, and Terry’s life, ended when an oncoming van turned left directly in front of him. Police reports said his motorcycle struck the side of the van and caromed off it into a stopped car. Witnesses reported the driver of the van pulled across the road, stopped, got out, then got back in and drove off. Terry was life-flighted to a nearby hospital where he was pronounced dead. He was 52, and left a wife, family and many friends to grieve for him. Back at the accident scene, witnesses gave investigators a detailed description of the blue van that caused the crash, right down to its state Senate license plate. And who lived right up the road where the van turned? State Sen. Carl Koella, who happened to own a blue van displaying Senate plates. Yet it mysteriously took nearly four hours before the police even knocked on the senator’s door--and almost five hours after the accident before Koella took a blood--alcohol test. It turned out that Koella had spent the afternoon with Gov. Don Sundquist, who had traveled to Koella’s home district to bolster support during a close election campaign. Koella was driving home from that affair when he claimed he “heard a thunk, and thought I had run over a sign or a rock or something.” He said he got out, checked the driver’s side of his van for damage, noticed a traffic accident across the highway, then got back in and drove home. Koella even called the Sheriff’s Department at about 7 p.m., saying that he thought someone behind him had run over a sign, and adding that he had been told that he hit someone. The officer who took the call said he mumbled and sounded confused. A grand jury determined Koella should face felony charges, but the senator copped a plea on a misdemeanor count. He was fined $2,500 and sentenced to 30 days of community service. At his sentencing hearing, Joyce Barnard, Terry’s widow, finally got to face Koella in court. “Eyewitnesses said you got out of your van, walked a few feet toward the scene, then turned around, got back in your van and left, leaving my Terry dying in a ditch along the road,” she told him. “Any decent person would have run to the scene to see if he could help in any way. Why didn’t you?” It’s a question we’ve all wondered about. Ironically, Carl Koella himself then died in January 1998 following emergency heart surgery. End of a very sad and appalling situation? Oh, no. Here’s the “in-your-face” update, courtesy of the Tennessee House and Senate. Sen. Bill Clabough, who replaced Koella, recently introduced Senate Bill 923 “to pay tribute to the late Senator Carl O. Koella for his exemplary public service.” The bill notes: “Whereas, Carl Koella truly epitomized the ideal of the dedicated and proficient public servant, and he often exceeded the call of duty? Whereas Sen. Koella demonstrated tremendous leadership on transportation issues, particularly in the development of U.S. Highway 321 (our italics).” Where is all this rhetoric heading? You won’t believe it. “It is important that the members of this body establish a lasting tribute dedicated to the memory of our longtime friend and colleague. Therefore, that segment of Interstate Highway 140 beginning at its intersection with Interstate 40 in Knox County to its terminus at U.S. Highway 321 in Blount County is hereby designated as the ‘Sen. Carl O. Koella Jr. Memorial Highway.’ ’’ Here’s the new rule: Kill a biker, get a highway named after you. The bill was signed into law by Sundquist on April 7. Two signs will be erected to note the designation. We’ll have more on this incredible development next month. Meanwhile, you might consider sending your concise and civil comments to: Sen. Bill Clabough, 309 War Memorial Bldg., Nashville, TN 37243 (e-mail can be directed to: sen.bill.clabough@XXXXXX); and Gov. Donald Sundquist, State Capitol, Nashville, TN 37243-0001 (e-mail: dsundquist@XXXXXX). Please send copies of your letters or e-mails to the Knoxville News-Sentinel, P.O. Box 59038, Knoxville, TN 37950-9038 (e-mail: letters@XXXXXX) and The Daily Times, 307 E. Harper Ave., Maryville, TN 37501 (e-mail: dean.stone@XXXXXX). Me? I’d like to send them the following message: As a tourist who has spent a lot of family vacation dollars in Sen. Clabough’s district, if those signs go up, you’ll never see another penny of mine in Knox or Blount counties. Copyright American Motorcyclist Association, 1999. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 09:53:40 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11621 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 4 May 1999 13:53:36 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA20568 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 09:53:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:53:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Tickets For Sale In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990504092939.006b725c@kivex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 May 1999, Lisa S. Goddard wrote: > FYI, true story. If you got the ticket on River Road in Montgomery > county: There is one female judge for Montgomery County who was a Playboy > Bunny in the 70's. If you recognize her and mention it she will throw your > case out of emabarresment. > Lisa Or have you locked up for contempt :) I imagine after this gets 'mentioned' 5-6 times, she's gonna get a touch on the bitter side. That'd be a fun jail conversation though.. "I knocked over a liquor store. How about you?" "I told the judge that I saw her playboy spread.." "Ouch man.. you aren't that smart, eh?" On the other hand, I bet she still looks good at 40, and may be out to relive her glory years... hm.. interesting. Nothing like having the law on your side (or your bed, eh?) Alex. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 10:05:31 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11894 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA09594 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.49]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:01:04 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Chris Norloff" , Subject: RE: Tickets For Sale Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:02:13 -0400 Message-ID: <006701be9636$b5b522e0$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990504075616.012ec260@mail.toward.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > >My advice: Ignore it and wait for the summons. If you are out of state, > >sometimes the cop just tosses the ticket (again, don't expect > it. It MIGHT > >happen.) > > > If you ignore it, you will be found guilty of the charge. You > will also be > charged with failure to appear and a bench warrant will be issued for your > arrest. A bench warrant means they won't bother looking for you but the > next time they come across you your ass is theirs. I think you misunderstood. I meant to not send in the ticket. In MD, you are supposed to return it with some sort of response (guilty, not guilty, guilty with explanation). Ignoring that means you might get off. But, I wouldn't recommend skipping out on the eventual summons that you will receive, regardless of whether or not you return the ticket. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 10:08:40 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11905 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA06096 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:08:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199905041408.KAA06096@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:05:20 -0400 Subject: Buell Motorcycle Company Announces Voluntary Recalls Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Buell Motorcycle Company Announces Voluntary Recalls MILWAUKEE, May 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Buell Motorcycle Company, a producer of sport and sport-touring motorcycles and a subsidiary of Harley-Davidson, Inc. (NYSE: HDI - news), announced today that it voluntarily recalled Buell motorcycles produced from 1994 to 1999 to correct several components. The voluntary recalls affect no more than 18,637 Buell motorcycles, of which approximately 12,400 were sold in North America. The following Buell motorcycle components and models are affected: -- Front Motor Mount System in all 1997 - 1998 models; -- Negative Battery Cable in 1996 - 1998 S1 Lightning and 1998 S1 White Lightning models; -- Rear Brake Line in 1999 Lightning Xl models; -- Side Stand Switch in all 1996 - 1999 models, except S2 and S2T Thunderbolt models; -- Fuel Tank Retention System in all 1995 - 1999 models, except Lighting X1 models; -- Fuel Tank Vent in all 1995 - 1999 models; -- Swing Arm in all 1995 - 1998 models; -- Shock Eye in all 1995 - 1998 models. ``The safety of Buell riders is of utmost importance to all of us at Buell,'' said Jerry G. Wilke, president and chief operating officer of Buell Motorcycle Company. ``These recalls were declared voluntarily pursuant to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration regulations. Erik Buell, our chairman and chief technical officer, and I will be working closely with our employees and dealers to update these motorcycles quickly so our riders can continue to enjoy their motorcycles and the riding season.'' Buell Motorcycle Company will establish a pretax reserve of $5.0 million, which it will charge to second quarter operations, to cover the estimated repair costs of these voluntary recalls. At this time, the Buell Motorcycle Company is not adjusting its production target of 8,000 motorcycles for 1999. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 10:18:08 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12104 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:18:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 161; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:18:04 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990504101629.01badaa0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:17:19 -0400 To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Kill a Biker, Get that Highway Named after You In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990504092951.01322510@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Most of my relatives come from Knox and Greene County TN. I emailed everyone I know to help and stop this stupidity. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 10:27:08 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12319 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:27:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 389 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:27:04 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990504102222.01bb3e50@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 10:26:53 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: Tickets For Sale In-Reply-To: <9501B54F9880D211B44600A0C9EBEE96D5E8@WASH58> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:10 AM 5/4/99 , Jason Picton wrote: >Actually the fact that all the other cars were traveling as fast might work >as a defense. The reason behind Speed Limits was to create a unified speed I have tried this before and failed, but I guess it does not hurt to try. >Here are some other tips to beat the ticket: >(snip) >speed. There are no written laws which says how a police officer should be >trained in order to be a qualified radar operator. (snip) IMHO - After sitting in court and watching people try what they could to weasel out of tickets....the judges seem to be harder on the people that don't own up to their speed and pay the ticket. All of my experience has been in Fairfax County...other jurisdictions may vary.... My last time through a judge yelled at the guy before me for trying to weasel out of his ticket. Cut him off through his explanation. The fact remains that you were speeding. Just pay the fine and watch for cops ;-) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 10:27:48 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12339 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id KAA12593 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990504143046.10575.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web301.yahoomail.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 07:30:46 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 07:30:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Rice boys (tm) was: Rabbit bait? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Stephen Harris wrote: > If anybody has "No Fear" it is because they aren't going fast > enough. > So true.... I get scared as hell coming into turn 1, 4, and 10 almost every lap!! he he he > Which brings to mind (I forget who it was on the dc cycles list) > that team > named "Know Fear Racing" which I always thought was one the best > names for > a racing team. Saw that one... pretty cool name! Right up there with Nancy Delgado's all womyn racing > team > "Team Lickity Split" ...:-) He he he he... I like that one!!!!! Collin ps: I'll be sure to bring those springs with me next time out to the track...need the money to fix my crashage ;-) === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 10:56:35 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f244.hotmail.com [209.185.130.209]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12885 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 10:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 19460 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 14:55:51 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504145551.19459.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 07:55:51 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] From: "Leon Begeman" To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Leon's bike.. Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 07:55:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; About $20 at JCWhitney or many upscale truckstops. I think I saw it at Pilot. >Hey Leon.. > > You have a clock/stopwatch and Voltmeter(?) on your bike? It was >the longish, skinny thing across the bars on your dash (I looked at it all >to briefly at the track). I was curious where you found that... it's >beginning to look like something I'd really like to have on my bike (old >bikes, lots of electrical issues). > >Brian > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 11:42:05 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13684 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:42:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26637 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA01851 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:41:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 11:41:31 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 04 May 1999 11:41:27 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 11:40:25 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: No Fear -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Personal fave on this subject is sold by Dangerous Designs: "No Brain." Was quite a hit on the Neuro floor after my first surgery. =:-) Joe (actually missing only a frontal lobe) >>> - 5/4/99 9:18 AM >>> I want that shirt!!!! LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Jordan Michael" on 05/03/99 02:21:12 PM To: DC-Cycles cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: No Fear Saw (on a t-shirt at Summit Point) "If you have No Fear you just haven't gone fast enough" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 11:44:28 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13706 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:44:27 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYR2PPA; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:44:23 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31R04R; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:44:23 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256767.00567370 ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:44:16 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256767.0055D2DF.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:40:43 -0400 Subject: Sigma BC800 Installed... Time for some speedo tests. What a nice gadget. I ordered the Gorrilla motorcycle alarm. Priced under a 100 bucks, seems to do what I need it to. 30 day money back guarantee. I'll post results in a couple of weeks. DJ 97' YZF1000R aka "Faith" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 11:55:35 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13858 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 11:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990504160344.25215.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Tue, 04 May 1999 09:03:44 PDT Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 09:03:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: CB550 free to good (or not so good) home.... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all... I have an old (74??) CB550 just collecting dust and taking up valuable space in my shed. I had delusions of grandeur that I would someday restore it... well... so much for that idea. It would make a very good parts bike, but I doubt it will ever be a ridable bike again.. it's been sitting for many many years from what I was told. The motor is not seized, but I never got enough of the bike together to try starting it....lots of good parts on it though... Anyhow... I prefer someone to come get it, but I can deliver within reasonable distance.... the one catch is that you have to come to my place and help load it... it's a heavy bike and is really hard to load with a flat front tire! Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 12:02:06 1999 Return-Path: altaanc@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f45.hotmail.com [207.82.250.56]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14014 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:02:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 49461 invoked by uid 0); 4 May 1999 16:05:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990504160519.49460.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 207.172.33.149 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 04 May 1999 09:05:19 PDT X-Originating-IP: [207.172.33.149] From: "Altaan Choudhry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 96 FZR600R FOR SALE Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 09:05:19 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; 1996 YAMAHA FZR 600R NEEDS A GOOD HOME. RES/WHITE/BLUE COLOR SCHEME. 6400 MILES, NEVER RACED OR CRASHED. D&D FULL EXHAUST SYSTEM, K&N AIR FILTER, BRAND NEW METZELER MEZ1 REAR TIRE. THE BIKE IS IN METICULOUS CONDITION. ALL SERVICE WORK DONE BY DEALER. ASKING PRICE $4700 OBO. YOU CAN SEE PICTURE OF BIKE AT: www.erols.com/altaanc REASON FOR THE SALE: INSURANCE IS KILLING ME. I CANNOT AFFORD OVER $2000 INSURANCE RATE PER YEAR. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 12:06:37 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14103 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA07446; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:08:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:08:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: Boiade@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Total-Loss Ignition In-Reply-To: <36e01c64.245f1f11@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have total loss-ignition whenever my charging system fails 8^) I can go a couple of days on a good battery if I don't use headlight or electric starter. But why not just take a spare battery? --garcia On Mon, 3 May 1999 Boiade@XXXXXX wrote: > Anyone out there use (or have used) total loss-ignition (no magneto) systems? > I am getting conflicting reports on how long a battery will last (without > charging) under normal circumstances, i.e. arriving at the track in the AM > running the bike occasionally for tuning and running an am and afternoon > race. Always had at least a magneto on any prior racebike. > > Ciao, > > Fred > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 12:29:53 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14426 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:29:52 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYR2P7T; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:29:53 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31SARN; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:29:53 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256767.005A9C8A ; Tue, 4 May 1999 12:29:43 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256767.00592923.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 12:28:24 -0400 Subject: Rear Brake Strobe Light A CBR600F3 passed me last week going extremely fast on Suitland Prkwy & I noticed that he had a flashing strobe light in his rear brake housing. Does anyone have any information on this product. I've purchased rump lights (flashers act as driving lights when not in use for increased visibility) & brake alert (when the brakes are on, the light flashes on & off, to get motorists attention from the rear). If you know of this product, drop me a line. Thanks, DJ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 13:07:38 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15086 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 464; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:07:20 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990504130636.01979940@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 13:07:12 -0400 To: "Altaan Choudhry" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: 96 FZR600R FOR SALE In-Reply-To: <19990504160519.49460.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" $2k per year? How old are you, and what is your record like? What company? I am 26, Male, USAA and $200/year! At 12:05 PM 5/4/99 , Altaan Choudhry wrote: >1996 YAMAHA FZR 600R NEEDS A GOOD HOME. >RES/WHITE/BLUE COLOR SCHEME. >6400 MILES, NEVER RACED OR CRASHED. >D&D FULL EXHAUST SYSTEM, K&N AIR FILTER, >BRAND NEW METZELER MEZ1 REAR TIRE. >THE BIKE IS IN METICULOUS CONDITION. >ALL SERVICE WORK DONE BY DEALER. >ASKING PRICE $4700 OBO. >YOU CAN SEE PICTURE OF BIKE AT: >www.erols.com/altaanc >REASON FOR THE SALE: INSURANCE IS KILLING ME. >I CANNOT AFFORD OVER $2000 INSURANCE RATE PER YEAR. > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 13:35:23 1999 Return-Path: tgallo@XXXXXX Received: from blue.vais.net (root@XXXXXX [207.98.180.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15585 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:35:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yellow.vais.net (yellow.vais.net [207.98.180.4]) by blue.vais.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA30101; Tue, 4 May 1999 13:38:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: DIAL|MB|Tom Gallo To: djones@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Helmet Painting In-Reply-To: <85256766.006464E4.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try DAP Designs. You can take a look at some of his work at http://www.vais.net/~tgallo/dapdesgns If you are interested, drop me a line and I will give you his number. Tom 99 TL1000R On Mon, 3 May 1999 djones@XXXXXX wrote: > Hi, > > Any recommendations for a helmet artist. The guy I usually use is booked so > I'm looking for referrals. > > Thanks, DJ > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 14:15:48 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16369 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A9428C890076; Tue, 04 May 1999 14:15:30 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990504141305.013239a0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 14:14:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Motorcyclist in Crash Identified Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Washington Post, 4 may 1999 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-05/04/015l-050499-idx.html Motorcyclist in Crash Identified A motorcyclist who died Sunday after colliding with a truck in Olney was identified yesterday as Jonathan Curtis Alexander, 21, of Rockville. Montgomery County police said Alexander, of the 17200 block of Olde Mill Run, was riding his motorcycle on Cashell Road near Bettswood Drive when he crossed the double yellow line to pass a truck in front of him. The motorcycle struck the side of the truck when the truck turned into a driveway, police said. The truck driver, Dutch Alfons Fischer, 27, of the 1200 block of McGuckian Street in Annapolis, was not seriously injured, police said. Police said the collision, which may have been caused by excessive speed, remains under investigation. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 14:15:56 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16372 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A9408C890076; Tue, 04 May 1999 14:15:28 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990504141012.01307330@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 14:11:02 -0400 To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Tickets For Sale In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990504075616.012ec260@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:05 AM 5/4/99 , Kirk Roy wrote: >On Tue, 4 May 1999, Chris Norloff wrote: >> If you ignore it, you will be found guilty of the charge. > >You've misunderstood. "Ignoring" the ticket simply means waiting for the >summons. MD will issue a court date if you do not send the ticket in. All >of this is described on tickets issued in MD. No warrant will be served or >any other extreme stuff unless you miss the court date. > >Kirk Okay, thanks for the clarification. That's the way it's done in Virginia, which of course does not mean that's the way it's done in Maryland! thanks, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 14:24:05 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16523 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 14:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AB39B860288; Tue, 04 May 1999 14:23:53 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990504141628.0130f100@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 14:19:36 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Kill a Biker, Get that Highway Named after You In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990504101629.01badaa0@mail.wheatintl.com> References: <4.1.19990504092951.01322510@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:17 AM 5/4/99 , Mike Troutman wrote: >Most of my relatives come from Knox and Greene County TN. I emailed >everyone I know to help and stop this stupidity. Wonderful! Tennessee voters, obviously, are most important here. When I was lobbying the Maryland General Assembly to help save the motorcycle safety program, I was surprised and disgusted at the attitude of politicians to anyone not in their own voting district. I mean, just because I can't vote for you doesn't mean you're not representing me. A guy on the ST1100 list had a good idea - buy/rent land space for OUR OWN billboards, noting what "Killer Koella" did. "Terry Barnard Memorial Highway. Killed by Senator Carl Koella on this road." Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 15:00:27 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17333 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:00:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06774 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 15:00:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199905041900.PAA06774@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:56:58 -0400 Subject: Speeding ticket aftermath... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Well, this is kind of relevant to the discussions we've been having lately! A friend of mine got caught doing 92 in a 50, in his car, in Fairfax County. He got a reckless, of course. His court date was last week, and he brought along a "good" lawyer (i.e. one who knew the prosecutor, judge, the system, etc.). The end result? He got one month in jail suspended, a $180 fine and had to surrender his license for six months. He can now only drive to/from work.. that's it! He was told if he was caught driving outside his restricted times, he'd have to do the jail time! The fine seems pretty low (not knowing much about this), I'm sure the lawyer cost some $$.. but losing your license for six months? That hurts! Looks like I'll be keeping it under reckless (and under 90!) from now on... Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 16:45:56 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19381 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 16:45:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9S6392Z; Tue, 04 May 1999 16:44:54 EDT To: djones@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rear Brake Strobe Light Message-ID: <19990504.214706.5263.3.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <85256767.00592923.00@lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,7-8,10-31 From: Bikes R Us Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 16:44:54 EDT Just an FYI: Any kind of flashing light is illegal unless you are in the police/fire/ambulance family. We recently sold a used BMW equipped with additional lights on the rear that flashed when the brakes were applied, but we could not inspect it because the lights would cause it to fail immediately. If you find the system you're looking for, you might want to have your bike inspected by a car service station that might not be up on all the latest rules for bikes. For the record, I think additional lights like that are sensible and the law is ridiculous rather than the other way around... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Tue, 4 May 1999 12:28:24 -0400 djones@XXXXXX writes: >A CBR600F3 passed me last week going extremely fast on Suitland Prkwy >& I >noticed that he had a flashing strobe light in his rear brake housing. >Does >anyone have any information on this product. I've purchased rump >lights >(flashers act as driving lights when not in use for increased >visibility) & >brake alert (when the brakes are on, the light flashes on & off, to >get >motorists attention from the rear). If you know of this product, drop >me a >line. > >Thanks, DJ > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 17:11:03 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19873 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.34]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:06:33 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Chris Norloff" , Subject: RE: Kill a Biker, Get that Highway Named after You Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:07:46 -0400 Message-ID: <006a01be9672$28afca80$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990504141628.0130f100@mail.toward.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > A guy on the ST1100 list had a good idea - buy/rent land space for OUR OWN > billboards, noting what "Killer Koella" did. > > "Terry Barnard Memorial Highway. > Killed by Senator Carl Koella on this road." > > Chris Norloff If you hear anything firm about this, let me know. I'd definitely chip in a few bucks. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 17:19:49 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA20155 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.34]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Tue, 4 May 1999 17:15:22 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Bikes R Us" , Cc: Subject: RE: Rear Brake Strobe Light Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 17:16:35 -0400 Message-ID: <006c01be9673$63d40f80$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <19990504.214706.5263.3.bike.dealer@juno.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > Just an FYI: > Any kind of flashing light is illegal unless you are in the > police/fire/ambulance family. We recently sold a used BMW equipped with > additional lights on the rear that flashed when the brakes were applied, > but we could not inspect it because the lights would cause it to fail > immediately. If you find the system you're looking for, you might want to > have your bike inspected by a car service station that might not be up on > all the latest rules for bikes. The other option is to find an MC shop to inspect who will ignore such things. But, you gotta be careful: if they'll ignore that, who knows what else they might ignore. Yet another option is to disconnect the 'blinkies' when you have to get it inspected. The ones I have put on BMW's (Hyper Lites are the name, I think) connect with a spade connector with the brake light. Pull one wire, and it doesn't flash. Oh, but after you disconnect it, go to your favorite local dealer, who would have failed you for that. Or... (again:) in some states (don't know if MD and VA apply) you can get a second inspection within a certain amount of time for free from the same shop. This is to let you fix the stuff that was 'broke'. So, get the inspection, see if they fail you for the blinking lights. If so, go out to the parking lot, disconnect them, and go back inside. Could be worse: we could have that inspection the British have... ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 19:26:50 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA22236 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:26:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (539) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2HHRa24050 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 19:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <922d2949.2460dbbc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:24:44 EDT Subject: Vintage Racebike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Made an offer on an RD-350 racebike. If it is accepted would anyone on the list with suitable bike transport be available to move it from Clifton, Va. to Croom, Md. (near Upper Marlboro) this weekend? Would be willing to pay in $ or slightly used 86-VFR-750 parts I have left over including a speedo, two non-straight wheels and tires, choke lever, two bent clipons and a new set of front brake pads. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 23:07:45 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA26388 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-215.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.215]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA01963; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:07:41 -0400 Message-ID: <19e601be96a4$5627bb80$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: , "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: Re: It's about time!!!!!! Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:06:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 -----Original Message----- From: Lisa S. Goddard >There is now bike friendly parking in the parking garage at Bethesda Metro. ...snip >I had written a few letters to county council executives ...snip Marvelous -- And twice in the last few weeks I've been twice surprised by ultra convenient bike spaces -- most notably at Potomac Mills Mall, where there is bike space near the rear Food Court entrance ahead of even police vehicle parking. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> next -- drive through malls for MCs Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 4 23:14:35 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA26477 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:14:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-215.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.215]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA02132 for ; Tue, 4 May 1999 23:14:33 -0400 Message-ID: <19ed01be96a5$4b5cdd60$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Fw: Goggles Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 23:13:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 >From the Vulcan List -- several eyefuls of eyewear. -----Original Message----- ...snip > >Anyone close to being interested in goggles may want to check out: > >Motorcycle Source, 800 - 767 - 4797, www.motorcyclesource.com. >They have both "retro" & "futuro"...styles. > >Another place: www.sprotrx.com for leather "RXable" goggles. > >Lastly, Crews makes an extensive line of protective eyewear: >800 - 821 - 6543, www.crewsinc.com ...snip Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> Blind. Use seeing-eye Bill. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 06:41:46 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA04811 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:41:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 5 May 1999 06:40:35 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFD9C@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Anita L.'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Speeding ticket aftermath... Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 06:40:35 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) This is interesting, unless the laws have changed in the past year or two, it used to be that you could only get a restricted license when you got a DWI. There were no provisions in the law for people loosing their license for speeding, reckless driving, etc. I know it sounds really stupid but that is the way it used to be. Maybe the judge screwed up? Who knows? My friend who does a lot of traffic law in Fairfax says there is one judge down there who WILL throw you in jail if convicted for anything over 90. And Anita you'll need to keep it under 80, that is if you don't want a chance of a reckless driving ticket. The law in VA specifically states that anything over 80 regardless of speed limit is considered reckless driving. Glenn >Well, this is kind of relevant to the discussions we've been having >lately! A friend of mine got caught doing 92 in a 50, in his car, in >Fairfax County. He got a reckless, of course. His court date was >last week, and he brought along a "good" lawyer (i.e. one who >knew the prosecutor, judge, the system, etc.). >The end result? He got one month in jail suspended, a $180 fine >and had to surrender his license for six months. He can now only >drive to/from work.. that's it! He was told if he was caught driving >outside his restricted times, he'd have to do the jail time! >The fine seems pretty low (not knowing much about this), I'm sure >the lawyer cost some $$.. but losing your license for six months? >That hurts! Looks like I'll be keeping it under reckless (and under >90!) from now on... Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 07:08:37 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05257 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 07:08:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990505111653.25019.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.16.7] by web307.yahoomail.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 04:16:53 PDT Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 04:16:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Connecticut SuperRide To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Friday morning I'll be riding up to Connecticut for the 10th annual SuperRide. (http://www.superide.com) Is anyone else from this area going up? From the various weather forecasts I've been reading/hearing, I'll either be riding up in the thunderstorms that remain from the storms that generated those tornados further west, or riding up in clear weather. Don't you wish meterologists could agree on something!? Anyway, I have the Aerostich ready, sprayed some more waterproofing on my saddle, and am getting packed up. If anyone else is riding up north Friday morning (about 6-7 am, basically up 95 and the NJ Turnpike) and want to team up, drop me an e-mail message. Oh yeah, I told my mother I was going up for Mother's Day, and there just happened to be a motorcycle event going on that weekend. She bought it too, or at least put up a good act. :-) Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 07:22:57 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA05494 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 07:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id EAA06594 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 5 May 1999 04:22:48 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 5 May 1999 04:22:48 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Motorcyclist in Crash Identified Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 04:22:44 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Police said the collision, which may have been caused by excessive >speed, remains under investigation. With all due respect - BULLSHIT! It appears to have been caused by insufficient attention being paid to the task at hand (by both parties). Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 07:43:33 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA05797 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 07:43:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id HAA08807 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 07:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE96CC.9A99FB70@XXXXXX>; Wed, 5 May 1999 07:55:12 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'DCC'" Subject: Re: Powder coating? Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:55:11 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've heard a few people (that I respect) recommend American Stripping in Manassass. Not me. Why, you ask? Because they were *ssholes on the phone. The guy I talked to acted like I was insulting his mom when I asked about abrasives other than sand (my engine oil lives in my Triumph frame, ya know). And the secretary could only say, "They'll do whatever they think is best" in answer to all of my questions. So... I would recommend ASAP powdercoating in Hagerstown (301-582-5698; ask for Butch). I got my frame done there a few months ago. It is beautiful. And they soda blasted my frame. Very kind. But don't forget to put washers and bolts through the steering head and swing arm pivots. If you do forget, I can also recommend a good machine shop ;). Good luck, Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 08:05:51 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06217 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:05:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A41B221101B0; Wed, 05 May 1999 08:05:47 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990505080431.01316c00@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 08:06:31 -0400 To: "Jordan, Michael" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Motorcyclist in Crash Identified In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Police said the collision, which may have been caused by excessive >>speed, remains under investigation. > >With all due respect - BULLSHIT! > >It appears to have been caused by insufficient attention being paid to the >task at hand (by both parties). >Michael J. Agreed. The old song and dance - he was speeding therefore it was a causal factor. Hell, he probably wiped his ass with white toilet paper, too, let's list that as a causal factor. Speed doesn't kill, but it reduces your time and distance to respond to a threat. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 08:05:50 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06216 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A41A221101B0; Wed, 05 May 1999 08:05:46 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990505080230.01311030@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 08:03:52 -0400 To: "mobacc" , "Dc Cycles" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Fw: Goggles In-Reply-To: <19ed01be96a5$4b5cdd60$36a4fccd@newmicronpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" And be sure to check out www.doggles.com, a company that could exist only with the Internet :-) Chris Norloff At 11:13 PM 5/4/99 , mobacc wrote: >>Anyone close to being interested in goggles may want to check out: >> >>Motorcycle Source, 800 - 767 - 4797, www.motorcyclesource.com. >>They have both "retro" & "futuro"...styles. >> >>Another place: www.sprotrx.com for leather "RXable" goggles. >> >>Lastly, Crews makes an extensive line of protective eyewear: >>800 - 821 - 6543, www.crewsinc.com > >...snip > >Bill S. / DC >99 VN750 --> Blind. Use seeing-eye Bill. >Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. > > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 08:08:57 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06235 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s42.wizard.net [206.161.15.72]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA14962; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:08:51 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" , Subject: RE: Speeding ticket aftermath... Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:13:01 -0400 Message-ID: <000201be96f0$9ec9df20$480fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFD9C@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM [mailto:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 6:41 AM > To: 'Anita L.'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Speeding ticket aftermath... > > This is interesting, unless the laws have changed in the past year or two, > it used to be that you could only get a restricted license when you got a > DWI. There were no provisions in the law for people loosing their license > for speeding, reckless driving, etc. I know it sounds really stupid but > that is the way it used to be. Maybe the judge screwed up? Who knows? I'd say that the laws have probably changed... I was in the car when my friend got his ticket. The policeman gave a nice little speech... "Over 80 lose your license, over 90 lose your freedom." And, he *strongly* advised my friend to bring a lawyer to court with him. The 'deal' was worked out between my friend's lawyer and the prosecutor, the judge just agreed and signed the paperwork while my friend waited outside the courtroom. I'll be keeping it under 80 and under 20 over the limit.. most of the time! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 08:18:31 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06389 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s42.wizard.net [206.161.15.72]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA15718; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:18:33 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" , Subject: RE: Speeding ticket aftermath... Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:22:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000301be96f1$f9176fa0$480fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFD9C@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> Never mind... I reread your message and realize that you are talking about no provision in the law for the restricted license part, not the losing your license part... it's too early in the AM for me to be answering email! :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM [mailto:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 6:41 AM > To: 'Anita L.'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Speeding ticket aftermath... > > > This is interesting, unless the laws have changed in the past year or two, > it used to be that you could only get a restricted license when you got a > DWI. There were no provisions in the law for people loosing their license > for speeding, reckless driving, etc. I know it sounds really stupid but > that is the way it used to be. Maybe the judge screwed up? Who knows? From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 08:28:49 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06561 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FB900HT6EMB62@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:27:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta02.mcit.com (omzmta02.mcit.com [166.37.194.120]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id MAA10864 for ; Wed, 05 May 1999 12:28:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta02.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990505122746.IHXT29226@[166.38.156.10]> for ; Wed, 05 May 1999 12:27:46 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 08:25:45 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: Where's the Beef! FW: AMA Government Relations E-mail Alert To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <000601be96f2$667d1cc0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: High X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-priority: High > > Please Forward this to any and all motorcyclists. > > AMA Government Relations E-mail Alert > May 4, 1999 > Contact: Ed Moreland, (202) 682-4750 > > Subject: Bikes for Beef--U.S. Trade Representative proposes 100% import > tariff on European motorcycles 500cc and less. > > Action: Letters to U.S. Trade Representative Charlene Barshefsky > requesting removal of motorcycles from target list. Copies to U.S. > Senators and Representatives. > > U.S. trade officials have proposed to put a 100 percent import > duty on some > 75 European goods -- including two categories of motorcycles, 51cc to > 250cc, and 251cc to 500cc. It is designed as a retaliation to the > 15-member > European Union's (EU) continuing import ban on American beef treated with > growth hormones. EU officials have not lifted that 10-year-old > ban, despite > a World Trade Organization order to end it in May. > > If U.S. officials impose the retaliatory tariff as scheduled June 13, it > would double the price of a host of under-500cc off-highway machines from > manufacturers such as KTM, Husqvarna, Husaberg, Beta, Bultaco, Fantic, Gas > Gas, Montesa, Scorpa and TM. > > A full report on this issue can be found at: > http://www.ama-cycle.org/magazine/1999/story2je.html > > Letters to U.S. Trade Representative Charlene Barshefsky objecting to the > inclusion of motorcycles on the target list and requesting their removal > are needed as soon as possible. Copies of these letters should also be > mailed to your U.S. Senators and Representative. > > Letters should be addressed to: > > Ambassador Charlene Barshefsky > United States Trade Representative > Winder Building > 600 17th Street, NW > Washington, DC 20508 > > SAMPLE TALKING POINTS: > > --It is inappropriate to target motorcycles in what is essentially an > agricultural trade dispute. > > ìWhereís the beef in motorcycles?î > > --Motorcycles miss the target. Imposing tariffs on motorcycles does not > target the EU agricultural industries benefiting from the trade > restriction. Nor does it help the U.S. agricultural industries harmed by > the EU exclusion of beef. > > --The motorcycle tariff would jeopardize many U.S. businesses and American > jobs. There are a large number of motorcycle dealers and after-market > equipment manufacturers that specialize in European motorcycles. These > tariffs could collapse this specialized market. > > --Imposing tariffs on these motorcycles will not assist any U.S. > Motorcycle > producers. Manufacturers such as Harley-Davidson, Polaris and Excelsior > Henderson produce larger street motorcycles. Any shift of > purchases caused > by exorbitant prices of the European motorcycles would simply be to other > imports. > > --If imposed, the European motorcycle tariff would severely harm the sport > of observed motorcycle trials. Many of the motorcycles used for observed > trials competition fall directly in the category of European motorcycles > 500cc and less. > > --A substantial American community opposes the proposed tariffs on these > motorcycles. It includes those who ride for pleasure, recreation, > competition and transportation; motorcycle dealers and distributors who > sell these products; and those who manufacture and sell after-market > products that are dependent on the sale of these motorcycles. > > > Please write and mail your letters as soon as possible. Forward this > message to your riding friends for action. If you have any questions, > please call the AMAís Washington, DC Representative, Ed Moreleand at (202) > 682-4750 or e-mail edmoreland.ama@XXXXXX. > > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 08:38:34 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06727 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:35:58 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFDB2@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Anita Lauro'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Speeding ticket aftermath... Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:35:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sounds like something a typical Fairfax cop would say. I don't know about the rest of you people but Fairfax cops seem to be the rudest. Just give me my ticket, no yelling please. When I got my 83 in a 55 on I-95 a few years ago, I remember the state cop telling me "83 is fast on a motorcycle, cause I wrecked one doing 50". I felt like telling him that he should have learned how to ride first, but I decided it would be best not to push my luck and I just ignored his comment. Another thing to remember is that 20 over may not always be the norm. If you remember when we were in Princeton last year I recall Bill telling us the in WV 15 over is considered reckless, I've heard that 10 over is in NC but I'm not sure if I really trust the source. Also MD seems to be the most lenient on tickets. I think you have to be close to 40 over to get one there. Glenn >I'd say that the laws have probably changed... I was in the car when my >friend got his ticket. The policeman gave a nice little speech... "Over 80 >lose your license, over 90 lose your freedom." And, he *strongly* advised >my friend to bring a lawyer to court with him. The 'deal' was worked out >between my friend's lawyer and the prosecutor, the judge just agreed and >signed the paperwork while my friend waited outside the courtroom. >I'll be keeping it under 80 and under 20 over the limit.. most of the time! From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 08:55:48 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA07018 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id IAA24797; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:55:38 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id IAA27827; Wed, 5 May 1999 08:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:55:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Route? Fancy Gap to Fayette Cty WV? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Maybe someone on the list might be able to help this guy. Please respond to the original poster at mluoma@XXXXXX and not to me. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:01:52 -0400 From: Marc Luoma Reply-To: vfr@XXXXXX To: vfr@XXXXXX, hsta@XXXXXX, bikers@XXXXXX Subject: Route? Fancy Gap to Fayette Cty WV? Dear NC, VA, and WV riders: I'm looking for a good route from Fancy Gap, VA to the Fayette County area of West Virginia. Specifically, I'm headed for Babcock State Park on Rte 41, near Rte 60. Any info much appreciated. TIA marc +-------------------------------+ | Marc Luoma | | Durham, NC | | http://home.att.net/~mluoma/ | | '95 VFR 750 | | '86 Interceptor | +-------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------ The VF/VFR mailing list--see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~john/vfr-list/ for subscribe/unsubscribe, policy and archive information. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 09:33:53 1999 Return-Path: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07617 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:33:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA23546 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Lordorange@XXXXXX (8035) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2USUa02293 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:21:29 EDT Subject: DC Cycles' Hank Conte passed away To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Hello all, A friend of mine, and fellow DC Cycles rider, Hank Conte passed away Monday night of a heart attack. Hank didn't attend a lot of DC Cycles rides, but, to match up a name with a bike, he rode a purple/white Honda Shadow and had a bright orange helmet. Hank was the marathon man in our little club out of Leesburg, and he regularly racked up 15K - 20K miles per year on the Shadow. Actually, the last time I saw him, which was on that last PARR poker run a couple Sundays ago, he was proudly wearing a DC Cycles T-shirt. He will be buried at Arlington National Cemetery with full military honors at 0845 hours, 21 May (the service will be approximately three hours long). There will be a procession from Loudoun Funeral Chapel to the cemetery for those who don't know how to get to the cemetery, but Hank's daughter doesn't yet know what time that procession would assemble. As of right now, we planning on riding to the cemetery. There will also be a family night on 19 and 20 May from 7:00-9:00 each night at the Loudoun Funeral Chapel. best regards, -matt From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 09:33:50 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07615 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA23872 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id JAA01847; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:21:55 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id JAA01859; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:21:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Speeding ticket aftermath... In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFDB2@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Another thing to remember is that 20 over may not always be the norm. If >you remember when we were in Princeton last year I recall Bill telling us >the in WV 15 over is considered reckless, I've heard that 10 over is in >NC but I'm not sure if I really trust the source. Also MD seems to be >the most lenient on tickets. I think you have to be close to 40 over to >get one there. I got a ticket for 50 over in MD last December and didn't get a reckless. It was an awfully expensive ticket however. Going slow and enjoying the scenery, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 09:33:54 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07619 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:33:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA22004 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgnwu17387 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:13:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256768.0048E879 ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:16:21 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (null) Message-ID: <85256768.0048E748.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:05:53 -0400 Subject: WHAT!!?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I am so mad right now I can barely speak. I usually park at the intersection of New Hampshire and M Sts, N.W. Well, today I got there to have a little surprise waiting for me! They changed all the meters from 12 hour limits to 4!!!! What the hell for!!?? I usually see 5 bikes tops parked there all day. Are they afraid another "army" of bikes may be waiting for the available slots we vacate after our 4 hours are up!!?? Thank GODDESS my job is moving to McLean at the end of this month. This just hasn't been my week. - Jeannette '86 VR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 09:50:21 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07983 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19278 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:50:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Where's the Beef! FW: AMA Government Relations E-mail Alert In-Reply-To: <000601be96f2$667d1cc0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 May 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > If U.S. officials impose the retaliatory tariff as scheduled June 13, it > would double the price of a host of under-500cc off-highway machines from > manufacturers such as KTM, Husqvarna, Husaberg, Beta, Bultaco, Fantic, Gas > Gas, Montesa, Scorpa and TM. Great, all the pricey bikes just get more pricey. You've struck a nerve here Todd. I will actually react to this one. After all, I might like a KTM in my driveway some day... A Gas Gas might be fun too, if I ever get the urge to drive up the side of a van. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 09:54:25 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08027 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:54:22 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYR2T9A; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:54:23 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31SL36; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:54:23 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256768.004C5FEF ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:54:12 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: bike.dealer@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256768.004C101E.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:52:35 -0400 Subject: Re: Rear Brake Strobe Light Thanks for the tip. At this time I'm running rump lights & brake alert, which flashes off & on when the brakes are on. Thanks, DJ 97' YZF1000R From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 09:59:52 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08169 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:59:51 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id JKYR24AK; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:59:49 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id HV31SLSZ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:59:50 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256768.004CE034 ; Wed, 5 May 1999 09:59:41 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: thunderacelist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256768.004C5010.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:58:08 -0400 Subject: Helmets w/ Nose/Mouth Covers I've noticed that there are some helmets that have a piece that covers the nose & mouth. Does this prevent shield fogging? Who are the manufacturers & prices? My Shoei RF-800 is very quiet. I want something that's just as quiet. Any recommendations? Thanks, DJ YZF1000R From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 10:08:24 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08357 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 10:08:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19681 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 10:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 10:08:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Helmets w/ Nose/Mouth Covers In-Reply-To: <85256768.004C5010.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 May 1999 djones@XXXXXX wrote: > I've noticed that there are some helmets that have a piece that covers the > nose & mouth. Does this prevent shield fogging? No, but a Fog City Fog Shield does. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 10:15:58 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08529 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 10:15:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990505141845.18413.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web301.yahoomail.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 07:18:45 PDT Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Helmets w/ Nose/Mouth Covers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think AGV is the only helmet that has the mouth/nose piece inside...not sure though. Personally, I found that I couldn't get any size AGV over my head without it squeazing my eyeballs out!! I normally wear a size M in Shoei or Arai, but I couldn't even get an XXL AGV over my nogin comfortably... RF-800 is quiet?? Must be an improvement over the RF-700... The 700 I've been using lately (retiring ASAP due to the racing crashes) is the noisiest helmet I've ever worn. At highway speeds, the wind noise is almost unbearable even with earplugs on. If you're in the market for a new helmet, talk to Brian McCoy. He's been talking to a reputable dealer who's offered some incredible prices.... Like Arai Quantum/e for under $300!!! Que Brian for Duane's contact info... Collin --- djones@XXXXXX wrote: > I've noticed that there are some helmets that have a piece that > covers the > nose & mouth. Does this prevent shield fogging? Who are the > manufacturers & > prices? My Shoei RF-800 is very quiet. I want something that's just > as > quiet. Any recommendations? > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 10:32:02 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08844 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 10:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 5 May 1999 07:31:17 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Helmet's FS.. Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 07:31:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Woowoo.. yet another plug. Ok, I announced this a bit earlier.. it's a much more firm deal now. In searching for sponsorship for our Race Team (DC-Cycles Racing), I ran across someone selling helmets/leathers/gloves/boots.. mostly just high class apparel, for really good prices. It IS mail-order, so know what you want before you give him a call... But the contact info is as follows: Duane Griffith aloetran@XXXXXX Dixie Cycle 318-368-3172 If you do end up calling (writing), even if just for pricing.. please mention that you got his info from DC-Cycles Racing.. or Brian McCoy.. it helps a lot with our sponsorship deal. thanks, Brian From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 10:54:27 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA09203 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 10:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FB900MHSL53Q5@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 5 May 1999 14:48:40 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta02.mcit.com (omzmta02.mcit.com [166.37.194.120]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA04299 for ; Wed, 05 May 1999 14:49:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta02.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990505144812.JKEF29226@[166.38.156.10]> for ; Wed, 05 May 1999 14:48:12 +0000 Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:46:09 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: CB750 / Favor To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <000c01be9706$0351c100$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Anybody here on the CB750 list mind doing me a favor? Could you post the following to the list? I've been having a little trouble signing on. If there is a web-based FAQ, can you point me to it? I'm trying to determine the success rate of owners of late model CB750s switching over to radial tires. In particular, I'm getting ready to spend $$ on a set of Michelin Macadam 90X. The OEM tire for my bike is 140/70-17 and the MM90x lowest profile advertised is 150/70/17. I examined the area around the OEM and determined there is very little room on either side of the tire. Anybody had any luck with this size tire on the CB750 (1990's). Todd From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 11:09:02 1999 Return-Path: riders@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09515 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:09:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-196-72.s72.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.196.72]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id LAA14153; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373056C6.7B08@erols.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:59:01 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bikes R Us CC: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rear Brake Strobe Light References: <85256767.00592923.00@lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> <19990504.214706.5263.3.bike.dealer@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the record...Bikes R Us has been given incomplete info. "Any kind of flashing light" would include turn signals. DOT allows the brake modulators such as those by Bac-off which cause the brake light to vary in intensity but do not turn it "off". Its possible that the bike cited below has one of the bicycle strobes mounted on it. Bikes R Us wrote: > > Just an FYI: > Any kind of flashing light is illegal unless you are in the > police/fire/ambulance family. We recently sold a used BMW equipped with > additional lights on the rear that flashed when the brakes were applied, > but we could not inspect it because the lights would cause it to fail > immediately. If you find the system you're looking for, you might want to > have your bike inspected by a car service station that might not be up on > all the latest rules for bikes. > > For the record, I think additional lights like that are sensible and the > law is ridiculous rather than the other way around... > > JohnDavid@Bikes R Us > > On Tue, 4 May 1999 12:28:24 -0400 djones@XXXXXX writes: > >A CBR600F3 passed me last week going extremely fast on Suitland Prkwy > >& I > >noticed that he had a flashing strobe light in his rear brake housing. > >Does > >anyone have any information on this product. I've purchased rump > >lights > >(flashers act as driving lights when not in use for increased > >visibility) & > >brake alert (when the brakes are on, the light flashes on & off, to > >get > >motorists attention from the rear). If you know of this product, drop > >me a > >line. > > > >Thanks, DJ > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 11:10:34 1999 Return-Path: riders@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09531 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:10:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-196-72.s72.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.196.72]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id LAA14876; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37305CE8.3D90@erols.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:59:52 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: "Jordan, Michael" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Motorcyclist in Crash Identified References: <4.1.19990505080431.01316c00@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Once again that old bromide, SPEED KILLS, rears its ugly head. Speed DOES NOT, kill. Stopping kills. In the instance below, had both parties chosen to speed past each other, there would have been NO injuries or loss of life. Instead, they chose to use each other as a stopping post. Chris Norloff wrote: > > >>Police said the collision, which may have been caused by excessive > >>speed, remains under investigation. > > > >With all due respect - BULLSHIT! > > > >It appears to have been caused by insufficient attention being paid to the > >task at hand (by both parties). > >Michael J. > > Agreed. The old song and dance - he was speeding therefore it was a causal > factor. Hell, he probably wiped his ass with white toilet paper, too, > let's list that as a causal factor. > > Speed doesn't kill, but it reduces your time and distance to respond to a > threat. > > Chris Norloff -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 11:11:29 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09513 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 11:06:57 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 05 May 1999 11:06:53 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 11:05:25 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cnorloff@XXXXXX, ghowell@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Kill a Biker, Get that Highway Named after You -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Me too! --Joe >>> "George Howell" - 5/4/99 5:07 PM >>> > A guy on the ST1100 list had a good idea - buy/rent land space for OUR OWN > billboards, noting what "Killer Koella" did. > > "Terry Barnard Memorial Highway. > Killed by Senator Carl Koella on this road." > > Chris Norloff If you hear anything firm about this, let me know. I'd definitely chip in a few bucks. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 11:15:00 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09630 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA03466; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:15:07 -0400 Message-Id: <199905051515.LAA03466@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Lordorange@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:11:45 -0400 Subject: Re: DC Cycles' Hank Conte passed away CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 5 May 99, at 9:21, Lordorange@XXXXXX wrote: > A friend of mine, and fellow DC Cycles rider, Hank Conte passed away Monday > night of a heart attack. Hank didn't attend a lot of DC Cycles rides, but, > to match up a name with a bike, he rode a purple/white Honda Shadow and had a > bright orange helmet. Wow.. what a shock! I first met Hank when I was taking an Intermediate MSF course, about 2 years ago. When I ran into him again I recognized him because of the neon orange helmet! He was just out at Summit Point for the first weekend of racing and we sat together to watch Collin's race. He was telling me about his coast-to-coast trip he just did in the fall. He sure loved to ride, and was a super nice guy! My condolences to his family and friends... very sad indeed. Anita From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 11:16:47 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09727 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:16:45 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13741 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (8020) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id qMRKa20904; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:14:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:14:50 EDT Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 ummmm to make money perhaps? Marcy In a message dated 5/5/99 9:47:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX writes: > They changed all the meters from 12 hour limits to 4!!!! > What the hell for!!?? From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 11:24:33 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09815 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 11:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 11:23:46 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 05 May 1999 11:23:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 11:22:14 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: djones@XXXXXX, bike.dealer@XXXXXX, ghowell@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Rear Brake Strobe Light -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Again, since you and nobody else is responsible for your bike's safety, this "inspection" business is a total pantload. I just look for a friendly source from which to buy the sticker. I'm sure my 100-watt high-beam and my steel (non-DOT-approved) brake lines would flunk a by-the-book inspection, but they surely are safety improvements over the items they replace. And--OH NO--my carbs have been tampered with--I must apologize to the EPA! Joe From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 12:00:49 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10527 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (web801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.61]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA21655 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990505160522.22172.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 05 May 1999 09:05:22 PDT Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:05:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: DC Cycles' Hank Conte passed away To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Lordorange@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Lordorange@XXXXXX wrote: > Hello all, > > A friend of mine, and fellow DC Cycles rider, Hank Conte passed away > Monday night of a heart attack. Actually, the last time I > saw him, which was on that last PARR poker run a > couple Sundays ago, he was proudly wearing a DC Cycles T-shirt. Wow. I met Hank for the first and only time at Todd's house as we picked up our t-shirts. He seemed like a really nice fellow. We spent a few moments kicking tires and talking bikes. It was cool. Ride in Peace, Hank. Horkster === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 12:37:23 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA11226 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA28023 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 12:37:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A3B4FEC0206; Wed, 05 May 1999 12:37:08 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990505122303.01342490@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 12:24:01 -0400 To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX (null) From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? In-Reply-To: <85256768.0048E748.00@172.16.2.37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:05 AM 5/5/99 , Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >I am so mad right now I can barely speak. >I usually park at the intersection of New Hampshire and M Sts, N.W. >Well, today I got there to have a little surprise waiting for me! >They changed all the meters from 12 hour limits to 4!!!! >What the hell for!!?? Damn, that's too bad. You might call Parking Services at 541-6065, but it sounds like this was deliberate. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 13:26:06 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA12008 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 13:26:04 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA23448; Wed, 5 May 1999 13:27:07 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma022406; Wed, 5 May 99 13:25:51 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FB900M8ISHIW7@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 5 May 1999 13:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256768.005F8A58 ; Wed, 05 May 1999 13:23:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 13:17:34 -0400 Subject: WTB: VFR clipons or VTR Genmar Risers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256768.006063D2.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi all. I'm looking to raise the bar height on my VTR. I was hoping someone on the list might have a set of VFR clipons that would fit. I've heard of this being done in the past. Or, if someone has a set of Genmar bar risers for the VTR, I might like to buy those. Someone on the list (Kirk?) mentioned to me once that they might sell their pair, but I've lost the message. I'd buy the Genmars new but at $100 I'm hoping for a cheaper option. Oh - and I'm also interested in Genmar VTR mirror extenders, but I don't suppose anyone on the list has a set of those. Thanks, Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 14:02:01 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12708 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 14:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 5 May 1999 17:11:11 UT Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 14:00 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:WTB: VFR clipons or VTR Genmar Risers Message-ID: <19990505140206232-519b1f1@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Try H&H Cycle Salvage in Woodbridge or Crossroads Cycles in Bailey's Crossroads. I'm not sure about H&H but I know that Dennis at Crossroads usually has some stuff laying around. He may have what you're looking for or know where to get it. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: WTB: VFR clipons or VTR Genmar Risers Author: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Date: 5/5/99 1:17 PM Hi all. I'm looking to raise the bar height on my VTR. I was hoping someone on the list might have a set of VFR clipons that would fit. I've heard of this being done in the past. Or, if someone has a set of Genmar bar risers for the VTR, I might like to buy those. Someone on the list (Kirk?) mentioned to me once that they might sell their pair, but I've lost the message. I'd buy the Genmars new but at $100 I'm hoping for a cheaper option. Oh - and I'm also interested in Genmar VTR mirror extenders, but I don't suppose anyone on the list has a set of those. Thanks, Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 15:06:33 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13968 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:06:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA26657 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 15:06:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:06:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: WTB: VFR clipons or VTR Genmar Risers In-Reply-To: <85256768.006063D2.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 May 1999 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > I'm looking to raise the bar height on my VTR. I was hoping someone on the > list might have a set of VFR clipons that would fit. I've heard of this > being done in the past. Have you checked with the VFR list? You'll probably need to get more specific as well. The model previous to the VFR800 is the one you want. > Or, if someone has a set of Genmar bar risers for > the VTR, I might like to buy those. Someone on the list (Kirk?) mentioned > to me once that they might sell their pair, but I've lost the message. No risers here... I've got my stock bars as far up as is reasonable (about 1/2" higher than normal). You might try that as your first resort. It's actually only 1/4" less rise than the Genmars. Strangely enough, on the way to work this morning a guy on an RR asked me if the SuperHawk, "is comfortable". I looked to see his clip-ons below the triples and could only reply, "more than that". :) Everything is relative, I suppose. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 16:17:59 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA15130 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 16:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D9VPUV57; Wed, 05 May 1999 16:16:27 EDT To: riders@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rear Brake Strobe Light Message-ID: <19990505.231739.7767.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <85256767.00592923.00@lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> <19990504.214706.5263.3.bike.dealer@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-72 From: Bikes R Us Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 16:16:27 EDT I guess I should have said "any kind of flashing light other than turn signals," but I thought that was understood. I didn't know DOT allowed light modulators either. I wonder if our inspector knows that... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Wed, 05 May 1999 10:59:01 -0400 Art Crow writes: >For the record...Bikes R Us has been given incomplete info. "Any kind >of flashing light" would include turn signals. DOT allows the brake >modulators such as those by Bac-off which cause the brake light to >vary >in intensity but do not turn it "off". Its possible that the bike >cited >below has one of the bicycle strobes mounted on it. > > >Bikes R Us wrote: >> >> Just an FYI: >> Any kind of flashing light is illegal unless you are in the >> police/fire/ambulance family. We recently sold a used BMW equipped >with >> additional lights on the rear that flashed when the brakes were >applied, >> but we could not inspect it because the lights would cause it to >fail >> immediately. If you find the system you're looking for, you might >want to >> have your bike inspected by a car service station that might not be >up on >> all the latest rules for bikes. >> >> For the record, I think additional lights like that are sensible and >the >> law is ridiculous rather than the other way around... >> >> JohnDavid@Bikes R Us >> >> On Tue, 4 May 1999 12:28:24 -0400 djones@XXXXXX writes: >> >A CBR600F3 passed me last week going extremely fast on Suitland >Prkwy >> >& I >> >noticed that he had a flashing strobe light in his rear brake >housing. >> >Does >> >anyone have any information on this product. I've purchased rump >> >lights >> >(flashers act as driving lights when not in use for increased >> >visibility) & >> >brake alert (when the brakes are on, the light flashes on & off, to >> >get >> >motorists attention from the rear). If you know of this product, >drop >> >me a >> >line. >> > >> >Thanks, DJ >> > >> > >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >-- >Art Crow >1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" >1996 JRT, "Higgins" >1998 JRT, "Diva" >"I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is >better." ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 18:36:38 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17781 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:36:36 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA05382 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (576) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id qEQMa20661; Wed, 5 May 1999 18:35:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5ed8b776.24622196@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:35:02 EDT Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/5/1999 11:27:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JinnSinn@XXXXXX writes: << ummmm to make money perhaps? Marcy In a message dated 5/5/99 9:47:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX writes: > They changed all the meters from 12 hour limits to 4!!!! > What the hell for!!?? >> Nope. It's still a quarter an hour, just now only goes up to 4 hours instead of twelve. They've starting doing that to all of them around here. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 19:19:31 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA18486 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:19:29 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (8015) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7RRUa20663; Wed, 5 May 1999 19:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5b9488d9.24622bb8@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 19:18:16 EDT Subject: Re: Helmets w/ Nose/Mouth Covers To: djones@XXXXXX, thunderacelist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/5/1999 10:08:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, djones@XXXXXX writes: << I've noticed that there are some helmets that have a piece that covers the nose & mouth. Does this prevent shield fogging? Who are the manufacturers & prices? My Shoei RF-800 is very quiet. I want something that's just as quiet. Any recommendations? Thanks, DJ YZF1000R >> DJ, I think you're talking about a breath guard. The small fabric piece inside the helmet that goes over the nose, right? I bought one from Coleman for my RF700. It's the same thing for the RF800. I think it cost about $5 or $10. It works pretty good. They also sell a piece that goes on the chin of the helmet to prevent stuff from blowing up and under. Hope this helps. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 23:01:15 1999 Return-Path: okan1262@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22172 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:01:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-46-26.s26.tnt9.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-46-26.s26.tnt9.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.46.26]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA28733 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:01:09 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.erols.com: 207-172-46-26.s26.tnt9.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.46.26] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <37310748.5E6C@erols.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 23:06:48 -0400 From: Okan Seremetoglu Reply-To: okan1262@XXXXXX Organization: The American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 98 Honda CBR 600 For Sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Friends; I will be leaving town soon and selling my bike. 4200 miles, Black/Bej/Dark Red color Garage Kept, Just serviced, Not A Single Scratch Asking $6,500/obo Call at 703-526-0022 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 23:03:55 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22221 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:03:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA13563 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.239.191.94]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA24603 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 22:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37312A84.5BD1@mnsinc.com> Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 22:37:08 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Bikers on Ch. 4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey DC Guys & Gals, I'm in the middle of Law & Order right now, but I just saw an advert for tomorrow night's News at Six Special Report on motorcyclists (!) Looks like Ch 4's Jim Vance is gonna do a special on Harley/cruiser RUBs. We'll see :) JK From dc-cycles-request Wed May 5 23:37:13 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA22856 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:37:11 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA23653 for ; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (14416) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id qCXCa24274; Wed, 5 May 1999 23:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <720a7076.246267ec@aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:35:08 EDT Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 well ok then :D I'm with Jeannette on this one... > What the hell for!!?? >> In a message dated 5/5/99 6:35:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ScooterFZR writes: > Nope. It's still a quarter an hour, just now only goes up to 4 hours > instead of twelve. They've starting doing that to all of them around here. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 00:28:47 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA23648 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 00:28:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA01885 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 00:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id AAA18000; Thu, 6 May 1999 00:28:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 00:28:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: "John C. Kozyn" cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Bikers on Ch. 4 In-Reply-To: <37312A84.5BD1@mnsinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've now met Jim twice at Rockville HD / Battley cycles... he's a hell of a nice guy. Has a couple Harleys and a BMW tourer (full dresser). It should be a really good piece. - Brian On Wed, 5 May 1999, John C. Kozyn wrote: > Hey DC Guys & Gals, > > I'm in the middle of Law & Order right now, but I just saw an advert for > tomorrow night's News at Six Special Report on motorcyclists (!) Looks > like Ch 4's Jim Vance is gonna do a special on Harley/cruiser RUBs. > We'll see :) From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 07:18:58 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA00979 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 07:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id GAA03109 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 06:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506104239.16068.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web303.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 03:42:39 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 03:42:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Bikers on Ch. 4 To: dc-cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "John C. Kozyn" wrote: > Hey DC Guys & Gals, > > I'm in the middle of Law & Order right now, but I just saw an advert for > tomorrow night's News at Six Special Report on motorcyclists (!) Looks > like Ch 4's Jim Vance is gonna do a special on Harley/cruiser RUBs. > We'll see :) I saw the advert this morning. I didn't have my hearing aids on so didn't hear anything, but it looked good, they had some nice shots of group rides. I already set my VCR. First some positive comments from Dr. Gridlock, now a story by Jim Vance. I hope the trend stays this way! Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 08:37:13 1999 Return-Path: raymondlucas@XXXXXX Received: from web201.mail.yahoo.com (web201.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02188 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506123709.28943.rocketmail@web201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web201.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 05:37:09 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 05:37:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Subject: Fwd: Fwd: BMW: Motorcycles on TV news To: DCCycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >From the IBMWR list, don't know if it made it to the DC List yet. Sorry if it's a multiple posting (I'm really not). > --- Steve Anderson wrote: > > Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:02:36 -0500 > > To: bmwmc@XXXXXX > > From: Steve Anderson > > Subject: BMW: Motorcycles on TV news > > Reply-to: Steve Anderson > > > > > > For prezzes in the Washington, DC area, Jim Vance > > (anchor on NBC affiliate > > channel 4) is doing a story on motorcycling > tonight > > at 6pm. Vance is a > > Harley rider, and the teaser spots for the report > > show him in full Harley > > regalia (t-shirt, do-rag, etc.) and the video they > > showed included only one > > non-cruiser -- a K1200LT. I can pretty much > picture > > where this is going (he > > refers to riding as seeing the country while on > > "rolling thunder"), but it > > might be interesting. > > > > Steve Anderson > > Morton's BMW > > Spotsylvania, Virginia > > 540-891-9844 > > http://www.mortonsbmw.com > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 08:56:50 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02455 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:56:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA24734 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A186180701C2; Thu, 06 May 1999 08:56:38 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990506085649.01362ce0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 08:57:27 -0400 To: dc-cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Bikers on Ch. 4 In-Reply-To: <19990506104239.16068.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:42 AM 5/6/99 , Louis F. Caplan wrote: > First some positive comments from Dr. Gridlock, now a >story by Jim Vance. I hope the trend stays this way! Oops, that reminds me that I haven't sent a response to Gridlock's favorable article about motorcycles. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 08:56:42 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02452 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A185180701C2; Thu, 06 May 1999 08:56:37 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990506084928.0132f570@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 08:51:23 -0400 To: Bikes R Us From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Rear Brake Strobe Light Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19990505.231739.7767.1.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <85256767.00592923.00@lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> <19990504.214706.5263.3.bike.dealer@XXXXXX> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 04:16 PM 5/5/99 , Bikes R Us wrote: >I guess I should have said "any kind of flashing light other than turn >signals," but I thought that was understood. I didn't know DOT allowed >light modulators either. I wonder if our inspector knows that... > >JohnDavid@Bikes R Us Headlight modulators are allowed or disallowed on a state-by-state basis, as far as I know. Here's the relevant VA law, allowing them. =20 (from http://leg1.state.va.us/) =A7 46.2-1012=20 Headlights on motorcycles; auxiliary headlights=20 Every motorcycle shall be equipped with at least one and not more than two headlights which shall be of a type that has been approved by the Superintendent and shall be capable of projecting sufficient light to the front of such motorcycle to render discernible a person or object at a distance of 200 feet. However, the lights shall not project a glaring or dazzling light to persons approaching such motorcycles. In addition, each motorcycle may be equipped with not more than two auxiliary headlights of a type approved by the Superintendent.=20 Motorcycles may be equipped with means of modulating the high beam of their headlights between high and low beam at a rate of 200 to 280 flashes per minute. Such headlights shall not be so modulated during periods when headlights would ordinarily be required to be lighted under =A746.2-1030.=20 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 09:40:26 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03272 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:40:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA02168 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgoao21220; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256769.004B4C80 ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:42:27 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Louis F. Caplan" cc: dc-cycles Message-ID: <85256769.004B4B4F.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:32:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Bikers on Ch. 4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Can someone tape this for the next DC Cycles party (perhaps)? I don't usually get home 'till after 6:30, but it seems like interesting t.v. and I hate to miss it! : ( Thanks! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Louis F. Caplan" on 05/06/99 06:42:39 AM To: dc-cycles cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: Bikers on Ch. 4 --- "John C. Kozyn" wrote: > Hey DC Guys & Gals, > > I'm in the middle of Law & Order right now, but I just saw an advert for > tomorrow night's News at Six Special Report on motorcyclists (!) Looks > like Ch 4's Jim Vance is gonna do a special on Harley/cruiser RUBs. > We'll see :) From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 09:45:41 1999 Return-Path: mpollack@XXXXXX Received: from mbunix.mitre.org (mbunix.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03425 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mail.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by mbunix.mitre.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03521 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orville.mitre.org (128.29.29.76) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 795663; Thu, 06 May 1999 09:45:33 EST Sender: mpollack@XXXXXX Message-ID: <37319CFE.CE89F3F5@mitre.org> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:45:34 -0400 From: Matthew Pollack X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: re:CB-750 questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From my experience, the best resource on the web for Nighthawk info is: http://www.pipeline.com/~randyo/NHMain.htm This is the page most often cited on the CB-750 list. It's not the most attractive site, but it has a lot of good info. As for using radials, many people seem to be happy with the Michelin M90x. In response to the question about sizing, here si a quote from someone on the CB-750 list: "... it's okay to use the 150/70-17 size on the rear, it clears both sides of the swingarm and the chain easily." Hope this helps. Matthew Pollack '91 CB-750 Nighthawk P.S. If you are having trouble subscribing to the CB-750 list, write Rob Nielson at cb-750-owner@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 09:46:58 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03445 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA20242 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:46:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv13-33.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.97) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020214; Thu May 6 08:45:30 1999 Message-ID: <002201be97c6$7c6d28c0$6172d9ce@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Another fatality, Be Careful Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:43:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Biker Killed In Crash - (MIDDLE RIVER) -- A motorcyclist was killed = instantly in Middle River after his bike was hit from behind. Witnesses = say 55-year-old Joseph Stroh was on his motorcycle, stopped at a red = light when he was struck and pushed into the back of a pickup truck. No = charges have been filed, but police are continuing their investigation Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 09:57:38 1999 Return-Path: mpollack@XXXXXX Received: from mbunix.mitre.org (mbunix.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03619 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mail.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by mbunix.mitre.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06119 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orville.mitre.org (128.29.29.76) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 795821; Thu, 06 May 1999 09:57:33 EST Sender: mpollack@XXXXXX Message-ID: <37319FCD.7B8B2129@mitre.org> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:57:34 -0400 From: Matthew Pollack X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Future ride possibility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I jst found out about a charity ride sponsored by Honda, called Ride For Kids® / Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation of the United States. It looks like this could be a good fall ride for a group of us to attend and show our support. More info can be found at http://www.ride4kids.org I'll look into the details more, and keep the list posted. Matthew Pollack '91 CB-750 Nighthawk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 09:59:56 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03640 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:59:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (543) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2OFCa17022 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:58:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <84f87a2f.2462f9e9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:58:01 EDT Subject: Crash Photos - No helmet EXTREMELY GORY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 This came rolling across the CBR list this morning.....ewww. -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:00:47 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f103.hotmail.com [209.185.131.166]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03722 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:00:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 65971 invoked by uid 0); 6 May 1999 14:00:13 -0000 Message-ID: <19990506140013.65970.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 May 1999 07:00:12 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Tires Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 07:00:12 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; For the first time in many years, I need a new kind of tire. I've had extraordinary luck with Metzler ME88s. They last a long time and grip well enough for me. I've been getting 25K miles from the rear tires (on several different bikes) and sometimes more than 40K up front. The new ZX6 has radials on it, but I have no idea how long they will last. What kind of radials will last for at least 20K miles on a ZX6? I'd like a quality tire, but tire life is the primary concern. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:02:11 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03743 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:02:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA06150 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:02:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgoaq02210; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256769.004D4C72 ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:04:18 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX cc: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256769.004D4BBE.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:54:38 -0400 Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Actually, it's even better than that. It's a quarter per 1.5 hours! The only reason I can think of for them changing it to four hours is to ticket people when they don't move their bike after 4 hours (?) However, I reloaded my meter yesterday, didn't move the bike, and never got ticketed. It seems to me that this is a very sneaky way of trying to make $$, if that's what they're trying to do... Or, maybe they just want us to waste our lunch hour detouring to pump quarters into the meter (?) It's the little inconveniences that make life so much easier! ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 ScooterFZR@XXXXXX on 05/05/99 06:35:02 PM To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? Nope. It's still a quarter an hour, just now only goes up to 4 hours instead of twelve. They've starting doing that to all of them around here. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:12:08 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03905 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:12:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07760 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A2D4E2302A4; Thu, 06 May 1999 10:10:28 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990506093908.0136d260@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 09:44:37 -0400 To: drgridlock@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Thanks for article on motorcycles Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Dr. Gridlock, Thanks for your article on motorcycles, Metro, and commuting. I've been using a motorcycle as my primary commuter vehicle into DC for three years now. I can use the HOV lanes, I get good gas mileage, and I pay less to park for a month than most cars pay to park for a day. Commuting by motorcycle is practical, economical, and enjoyable. In addition, motorcycles never cause gridlock, and are in fact part of the solution to gridlock. thanks, Chris Norloff If you publish my letter, please don't publish my address and phone -- 508 N. West St. Falls Church, VA 22046 days (202)863-2680 x225 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:12:09 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA03906 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:12:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13703 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:10:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:10:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Tires In-Reply-To: <19990506140013.65970.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 May 1999, Leon Begeman wrote: > What kind of radials will last for at least 20K miles on a ZX6? I'd > like a quality tire, but tire life is the primary concern. Dunlop D205? Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:17:28 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04015 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506141924.13334.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web308.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 07:19:24 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful To: dc-cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Biker Killed In Crash - (MIDDLE RIVER) -- A motorcyclist was killed instantly > in Middle River after his bike was hit from behind. Witnesses say 55-year-old > Joseph Stroh was on his motorcycle, stopped at a red light when he was struck > and pushed into the back of a pickup truck. No charges have been filed, but > police are continuing their investigation Didn't we have a discussion a few months ago about why people keep the bike in first gear when at a stop? This is a place where I disagree with the Commonwealth of Virginia. In the MSF program, we tell riders that when they stop (at a light, at a sign) they should look in their mirrors for traffic behind them that might not stop. It's even a question on the written evaluation (oops, did I just give out an answer?) But when you take Virginia's written exam, the correct answer according to them is to look ahead (i.e. through the intersection). As long as you are stopped in the correct lane (i.e. right of the double yellow line) I don't think on coming traffic is going to be the biggest problem. Ken, please keep us informed, I'd like to know what charges are made against the driver who pushed the bike into the truck in front of him. Or if they drop the ball and name a highway after the driver. Keep an eye on those mirros folks!! Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:18:59 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04035 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id KAA07243 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:08:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506140847.10135.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web303.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 07:08:47 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:08:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Bikers on Ch. 4 To: dc-cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > Can someone tape this for the next DC Cycles party (perhaps)? > I don't usually get home 'till after 6:30, but it seems like interesting t.v. > and I hate to miss it! : ( > Thanks! Usually when they have a big story like this that they hype, it won't be on until the second half hour. Even so, I have the VCR Set from 6-7, and will be happy to bring the tape to the next DC-Cycles event (or if I am unable to attend, give it to someone who will). Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:19:24 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04056 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 348; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:19:14 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990506101819.01993520@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:18:46 -0400 To: "Ken" , "dc-cycles" From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful In-Reply-To: <002201be97c6$7c6d28c0$6172d9ce@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:43 AM 5/6/99 , Ken wrote: 55-year-old Joseph Stroh was on his motorcycle, stopped at a red light when >he was struck and pushed into the back of a pickup truck. No charges have >been filed, but police are continuing their investigation NO CHARGES? What the Hell? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:22:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04146 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:22:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01467 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01888 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:22:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 385 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:22:04 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990506102025.01993f10@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:22:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: VFR Bar Raisers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone have any experience with lifting bar height a bit on the VFR? Coming from my Nighthawk to the VFR, I have a lot of weight on my wrists that I am not used to. Not sure what raisers would do to the bike's ergonomics......Any thoughts? My right wrist doesn't bother me, just my left due to an accident long ago..... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:31:58 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04352 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 10:30:09 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 06 May 1999 10:30:02 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:28:42 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mpollack@XXXXXX Subject: Future ride possibility -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I=27m there. I bet there=27ll be folks there who can appreciate my new license plate frame: =22You can=27t scare me--I=27ve had brain surgery. Joe (former owner of a grade III astrocytoma) >>> Matthew Pollack - 5/6/99 9:57 AM >>> I jst found out about a charity ride sponsored by Honda, called Ride For Kids=AE / Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation of the United States. It looks like this could be a good fall ride for a group of us to attend and show our support. More info can be found at http://www.ride4kids.org I=27ll look into the details more, and keep the list posted. Matthew Pollack =2791 CB-750 Nighthawk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:50:59 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04667 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506145131.17334.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 07:51:31 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:51:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Tires To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 20k is asking a lot out of a radial on a heavy bike.. however, I think you'll have the longest life out of (in no particular order): Dunlop D205 Metzler ME4 (??not sure on number..whatever their "touring tire is") Avon Azarro (had no measurable wear in the center of the front aft 5k miles when the edges wore out .... rear wore evenly across the board, but I was railing on it.) --- Leon Begeman wrote: > What kind of radials will last for at least 20K miles on a ZX6? I'd > like a > quality tire, but tire life is the primary concern. > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:52:42 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (web804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA04687 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506145727.11115.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 07:57:27 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 07:57:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful To: Mike Troutman , dc-cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Mike Troutman wrote: > At 09:43 AM 5/6/99 , Ken wrote: > 55-year-old Joseph Stroh was on his motorcycle, stopped at a red > light when > >he was struck and pushed into the back of a pickup truck. No charges > have > >been filed, but police are continuing their investigation > > NO CHARGES? What the Hell? The poor biker was at a standstill, so the Police couldn't use the tired old "Speed Kills" mantra. They are looking for some other way to blame it on anyone/thing but the a-hole who rear-ended him. :( Watch those mirrors at stoplights, folks. Dale, wishing I had eyes in the back of my head... === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:56:36 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04786 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:56:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AD821D3C01F6; Thu, 06 May 1999 10:56:02 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990506105008.0135eb70@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:50:48 -0400 To: "Louis F. Caplan" , dc-cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful In-Reply-To: <19990506141924.13334.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:19 AM 5/6/99 , Louis F. Caplan wrote: > I'd like to know what charges are made against the >driver who pushed the bike into the truck in front of him. on> Or if they drop the ball and name a highway after the driver. voice off> :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 10:57:52 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04862 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 10:57:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FBB000CXF2IYZ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:32:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA16244; Thu, 06 May 1999 14:33:16 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990506143311.UTED10813@toddnt>; Thu, 06 May 1999 09:33:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:30:19 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: CB-750 questions In-reply-to: <37319CFE.CE89F3F5@mitre.org> To: Matthew Pollack , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000b01be97cc$f7c618f0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Thanks Matt, I mounted a 160 carcass from my ST1100 onto the CB wheel just to size it up. There was still about 3/8 inch clearance from the right side swing-arm and plenty of space away from the chain. So, I'll be ordering the 150 today. BTW, that 160 looks 'huge' back there. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: mpollack@XXXXXX [mailto:mpollack@XXXXXX]On > Behalf Of Matthew Pollack > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 9:46 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: re:CB-750 questions > > > From my experience, the best resource on the web for Nighthawk info is: > http://www.pipeline.com/~randyo/NHMain.htm > > This is the page most often cited on the CB-750 list. It's not > the most attractive site, but it has > a lot of good info. > > As for using radials, many people seem to be happy with the > Michelin M90x. In response to the > question about sizing, here si a quote from someone on the CB-750 > list: "... it's okay to use the > 150/70-17 size on the rear, it clears both sides of the swingarm > and the chain easily." > > Hope this helps. > > Matthew Pollack > '91 CB-750 Nighthawk > > P.S. If you are having trouble subscribing to the CB-750 list, > write Rob Nielson at > cb-750-owner@XXXXXX > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:02:58 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04954 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506150502.2858.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web306.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 08:05:02 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:05:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Saturday ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all... I'm up for leading a ride of some sort this saturday...preferably on the early side and moderate length.... In all likelihood, starting from the Sterling area, or if majority wants, maybe out towards Middleburg for the start... What say ya'll?? Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:07:51 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay03.mcit.com (omzrelay03.mcit.com [199.249.19.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05047 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:07:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37789) with ESMTP id <0FBB0040HG0KIF@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:53:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA30925; Thu, 06 May 1999 14:52:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990506145331.UYFL10813@toddnt>; Thu, 06 May 1999 09:53:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 10:50:40 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: D205s RE: Tires In-reply-to: To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <000e01be97cf$cf7d9190$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal You may get around 11k on the rear which have been my results on the ST1100. If you don't mind stretching it out to get your $$ worth, you can go to around 18k on the front. I'm an advocate of these tires and tend to spend a lot of time on the outer edges of them. That being said, YMMV if you are primarily interested in posting highway miles. Todd > > On Thu, 6 May 1999, Leon Begeman wrote: > > What kind of radials will last for at least 20K miles on a ZX6? I'd > > like a quality tire, but tire life is the primary concern. > > Dunlop D205? > > Kirk > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:08:51 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05069 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10fPjW-0007GU-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:06:42 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA28726 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004401be97d3$037bef20$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:13:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 >Biker Killed In Crash - (MIDDLE RIVER) -- A motorcyclist was killed instantly in Middle River after his bike was hit from behind. Witnesses say 55-year-old Joseph Stroh was on his motorcycle, stopped at a red light when he was struck and pushed into the back of a pickup truck. > For this reason I think motorcyclists should be allowed to lane-split at intersections with traffic lights. Let us filter to the front so we dont have to worry about someone crushing us from behind. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:08:52 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05067 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 11:07:29 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 06 May 1999 11:07:29 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:06:30 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, kirk@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tires -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I've heard good things about the D205s, and the Metzler ME Z2s would seem to be a good choice, too. Joe >>> Kirk Roy - 5/6/99 10:10 AM >>> On Thu, 6 May 1999, Leon Begeman wrote: > What kind of radials will last for at least 20K miles on a ZX6? I'd > like a quality tire, but tire life is the primary concern. Dunlop D205? Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:09:44 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05087 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:09:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web505.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.72]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA18164 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506151213.3642.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web505.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 08:12:13 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:12:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The new D.C. meters are a big pain -- who has time to plug the meter or move their bike every four hours? And those spots are one of the few places to park in the city because most garages refuse to admit motorcycles. I agree D.C. seems to be hoping it will get revenues from parking violations when people forget to plug the meter. After a call to the number Chris Norloff gave, D.C. provided the following contact: Gwen Mitchell Acting Administrator for Parking Services 1725 15th St. NE room 240 Washington DC, 20002 fax: 202-541-6113 I'm going to fax a letter protesting the new meters and asking for an explanation. If you are affected please let the city know you're not happy (too bad D.C. is not as enlightened as the Metro system, which appeared in Dr. Gridlock's column). Sean Sullivan > At 09:05 AM 5/5/99 , Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX > wrote: > >I am so mad right now I can barely speak. > >I usually park at the intersection of New Hampshire > and M Sts, N.W. > >Well, today I got there to have a little surprise > waiting for me! > >They changed all the meters from 12 hour limits to > 4!!!! > >What the hell for!!??> > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:34:00 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05470 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA18595 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FBB004NZGHICV@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:03:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA30686; Thu, 06 May 1999 15:02:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990506150346.VAGE10813@toddnt>; Thu, 06 May 1999 10:03:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:00:55 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Crash Photos - No helmet EXTREMELY GORY In-reply-to: <84f87a2f.2462f9e9@aol.com> To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <001301be97d1$3e1141f0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > > This came rolling across the CBR list this morning.....ewww. > > -Sean Jordan > '93 CBR1000F ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Oh, yeah! That does look awful! (you forgot the url) From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:34:08 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05473 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA19836 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 May 1999 08:17:31 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Saturday ride Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:17:27 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > From: Collin T. Fagan [mailto:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] > Hey all... I'm up for leading a ride of some sort this > saturday...preferably on the early side and moderate length.... well.. I guess I can come along and meet the people who ride in the middle of the pack.. Maybe I'll even bring the VFR out.. Brian (broken left wrist still) From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:34:35 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05489 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:34:32 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (14440) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2MAMa26068 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:33:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1b906d03.2463103d@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:33:17 EDT Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 this has happened to me TWICE now in less than three months (of course I was not pushed into the vehicle in front of me thank god) ... BOTH times the person driving the (one time VAN, one time SUV) seemed a little stupid and was obviously not paying attention. The van hit at maybe 5 mph and the SUV at maybe 1-2 mph. The van driver seemed altogether unimpressed that he had damaged my bike and could have damaged me...the SUV driver was too busy giggling with her male passenger and after glaring at her I yelled out at her to watch herself (or something like that) she just gave a little wave of her hand "oh I'm sorry tee hee hee" moral of the story: they aren't paying attention so you better. :D Marcy In a message dated 5/6/99 9:55:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, shephar1@XXXXXX writes: > Biker Killed In Crash - (MIDDLE RIVER) -- A motorcyclist was killed instantly > in Middle River after his bike was hit from behind. Witnesses say 55-year-old > Joseph Stroh was on his motorcycle, stopped at a red light when he was struck > and pushed into the back of a pickup truck. No charges have been filed, but > police are continuing their investigation From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:36:04 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05578 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:36:03 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (14440) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2MCNa07562; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:35:13 EDT Subject: Re: Crash Photos - No helmet EXTREMELY GORY To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 where's the url? or attachment? HUH? ;D Marcy In a message dated 5/6/99 10:13:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Eternity23@XXXXXX writes: > This came rolling across the CBR list this morning.....ewww. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:39:44 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA05598 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:39:42 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA23564 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (14440) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vATMa13119 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8c470650.24631168@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:38:16 EDT Subject: Re: Bikers on Ch. 4 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX (dc-cycles) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 I saw Vance plugging this on late night last night - he was sittin' on a hog and decked out to the nines in what appeared to be jeans, leather, fringe, a bandana and possibly an american flag ..... and not too long ago I saw him in a restaurant wearing a dark suit....heh heh Marcy In a message dated 5/6/99 10:28:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, nighthawk700@XXXXXX writes: > Usually when they have a big story like this that they hype, it won't be on > until the second half hour. Even so, I have the VCR Set from 6-7, and will > be > happy to bring the tape to the next DC-Cycles event (or if I am unable to > attend, give it to someone who will). From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:40:02 1999 Return-Path: anita_gpz@XXXXXX Received: from web218.mail.yahoo.com (web218.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.118]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05608 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506153942.25580.rocketmail@web218.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.4.241.53] by web218.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 08:39:42 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:39:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Anita Lauro Subject: Re: Tires -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- JOE NAGY wrote: > I've heard good things about the D205s, and the > Metzler ME Z2s would > seem to be a good choice, too. So far I'm very happy with the D205's on my GPZ.. I have around 2K miles on them. I was told that they should last 10K miles, so they may not meet Leon's 20K requirement. Anita _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:49:29 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05797 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 6 May 1999 14:59:02 UT Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:48 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Tires Message-ID: <19990506115009906-9c742ca@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That would be my choice, too. -Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Tires Author: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Date: 5/6/99 10:10 AM On Thu, 6 May 1999, Leon Begeman wrote: > What kind of radials will last for at least 20K miles on a ZX6? I'd > like a quality tire, but tire life is the primary concern. Dunlop D205? Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 11:52:55 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05886 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:52:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 6 May 1999 15:02:01 UT Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:52 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Crash Photos - No helmet EXTREMELY GORY Message-ID: <19990506115309944-9ca0211@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Uhhh... what crash photos? I didn't see any... -Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Crash Photos - No helmet EXTREMELY GORY Author: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: 5/6/99 9:58 AM This came rolling across the CBR list this morning.....ewww. -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 12:16:58 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06248 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA00740 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 6 May 1999 15:26:02 UT Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 12:14 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Bikers on Ch. 4 Message-ID: <19990506121710336-9dffc98@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's pretty much what he was wearing when we met him (stood next to him in awe) at the Vietnam Memorial Ride back in '95. BIG HARLEY, BIG MAN (or at least he seemed to be). Extremely nice though as far as I could tell. -Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Bikers on Ch. 4 Author: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: 5/6/99 11:38 AM I saw Vance plugging this on late night last night - he was sittin' on a hog and decked out to the nines in what appeared to be jeans, leather, fringe, a bandana and possibly an american flag ..... and not too long ago I saw him in a restaurant wearing a dark suit....heh heh Marcy In a message dated 5/6/99 10:28:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, nighthawk700@XXXXXX writes: > Usually when they have a big story like this that they hype, it won't be on > until the second half hour. Even so, I have the VCR Set from 6-7, and will > be > happy to bring the tape to the next DC-Cycles event (or if I am unable to > attend, give it to someone who will). From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 12:18:59 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06307 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA28895 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:08:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 6 May 1999 15:17:19 UT Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 12:02 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Saturday ride Message-ID: <19990506120510150-9d4ff5f@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Damn... you guys are always setting up rides when Jeannette and I have other things to do... oh well... next time I guess. -Tom '86 VFR750 PS. We are going to the Eastern Shore (near the Chesapeke Bay Bridge Tunnel) for Memorial weekend and I was wondering if anyone else is going to be heading down towards VA Beach. We're going to be bringing the VFRs with us and will be riding all weekend and would welcome additional company. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Saturday ride Author: gixer_racer@XXXXXX (Collin T. Fagan) Date: 5/6/99 11:05 AM Hey all... I'm up for leading a ride of some sort this saturday...preferably on the early side and moderate length.... In all likelihood, starting from the Sterling area, or if majority wants, maybe out towards Middleburg for the start... What say ya'll?? Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 12:19:01 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06309 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:19:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA28853 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 May 1999 09:06:58 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Another fatality, Be Careful Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:06:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) the SUV driver > was too busy > giggling with her male passenger and after glaring at her I > yelled out at her > to watch herself (or something like that) she just gave a > little wave of her > hand "oh I'm sorry tee hee hee" Umm... reminds me of a story that came across the VFR list about 2 years ago.. (and something I'd do in the situation you were in Marcy). The guy was filtering through traffic going over some bridge.. doing not much more than 5 mph.. just looking to get through the mess. Some SUV driver though he had the right to impede the MCs progress and moved to cut him off. The biker stopped, put the bike on it's stand, walked around to the drivers window.. Headbutted it till it broke, drug the driver out the window and beat him for about 5 minutes before getting back on the bike and riding on. Apparently, this is true.. as there were a few people who vouched for the person. Yes, after being hit from behind.. and HARD.. left with a broken wrist, and a separated shoulder.. I will gladly inflict bodily damage and lots of pain on any car driver that even does so little as to threaten me.. Where's the damn gun thread now.. I KNOW I remember seeing something about using your right hand and a throttle lock...... Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 12:19:05 1999 Return-Path: okan1262@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06318 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:19:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA28700 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-113-32.s32.tnt5.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-113-32.s32.tnt5.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.113.32]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA16333 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:05:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.erols.com: 207-172-113-32.s32.tnt5.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.113.32] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <3731BF1B.4531@erols.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 12:11:07 -0400 From: Okan Seremetoglu Reply-To: okan1262@XXXXXX Organization: The American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [Fwd: Saturday ride] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------22DC25402E85" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------22DC25402E85 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Finally, A fast pace ride. Where are we meeting exactly and what time?? --------------22DC25402E85 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from mx02.erols.com ([207.172.3.242]) by mta3.mail.erols.net (InterMail v03.02.07.03 118-128) with ESMTP id <19990506155424.BGJR29999@XXXXXX>; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:54:24 -0400 Received: from meretrix.com (dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) by mx02.erols.com (8.8.8-970530/8.8.5/MX-980323-gjp) with ESMTP id LAA17009; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:54:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA04954 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:02:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506150502.2858.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web306.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 08:05:02 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:05:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Saturday ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey all... I'm up for leading a ride of some sort this saturday...preferably on the early side and moderate length.... In all likelihood, starting from the Sterling area, or if majority wants, maybe out towards Middleburg for the start... What say ya'll?? Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------22DC25402E85-- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 13:50:07 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07723 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA14613 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18515 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:32:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Saturday ride In-Reply-To: <3731BF1B.4531@erols.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 May 1999, Okan Seremetoglu wrote: > Finally, A fast pace ride. Where are we meeting exactly and what time?? Sorry to seem confused by this but why "Finally"? There are no designated ride leaders here, just people who decide they want to lead a ride and do it. If you want a fast pace ride set one up and go for it. Kudos to those who get out and lead these rides! Since dc-cycles people have started getting together for parties and rides the nature of the list has changed, for the better. Speaking of which, anyone care for some punishment in the dirt on 5/16 in the afternoon? Playground to be decided, excessively tight trails likely. My brother is recovering nicely from our last time out (popped off kneecap). :) Kirk 98 Honda VTR1000 84 Honda XR350R From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 13:50:22 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07806 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:50:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web302.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.184]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA12265 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:23:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506172422.9098.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web302.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 10:24:22 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Saturday ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, looks like there is decent interest, so.... How bout we leave from the Burger King in Sterling at 0930 on Saturday...I'll think up a decent route between now and then.. minimum 100 miles, and up to 300 depending on interest of those that show up... As always, I expect we will split into two groups. One to zip along a bit above the speed limit (what scenery??), the other somewhere fairly close to it. I'll most likely lead the faster group on my Maxim 650, so you know the pace won't get to "plaid" he he he To get to the BK, head west on rte7 (leesburgh pike) continue past the NOVA campus on your right, and you will find the BK on your right in just under a mile. Or take the Dulles toll road west to 28 north and then 7 east. BK will be on left between first and second light (haveta do a u-turn at the second light). I'll be there between 0900-0915 ready to go.... If it's raining, I WON'T BE THERE... no pleasure riding in the rain for me...currently the forecast looks decent, but I haven't had a lot of faith in the forecasters lately... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 13:50:26 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07808 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA10744 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 13:14:04 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 06 May 1999 13:14:00 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:12:54 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Another fatality, Be Careful -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Now, now, Brian, you really should broaden your horizons-- Learn how to shoot with your left hand. Joe Where's the damn gun thread now.. I KNOW I remember seeing something about using your right hand and a throttle lock...... Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 13:50:10 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07802 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA15389 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990506175013.29551.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web305.yahoomail.com; Thu, 06 May 1999 10:50:13 PDT Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:50:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: non-moto: PC recommendations... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The motherboard on my home PC died this past weekend... Anyone have recommendations for relatively inexpensive bare bones systems... Basically I'm looking for a motherboard, PC, ram combination that isn't already outdated, but not so cutting edge that it costs an arma and a leg... haven't been shopping in a while, so all the buzz words don't mean too much any more... differences in celeron vs. reg PII, AMD K6 2 and 3??? Cyrix?? Found a few celeron systems with case, power supply, BX motherboard, 300-450 Mzz Celerons with 32M 10ns SDRAM, for around the $300 mark... anyone know of better deals?? Collin (Going nuts without internet access at home... and even worse... wife is going nuts and threatening me since there is no net access at home ;-)) === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 13:50:33 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07812 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:50:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA06974 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 12:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user81.anent.com [208.195.115.81]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA07868; Thu, 06 May 1999 12:51:56 -0400 Message-ID: <01f601be97e0$d694d860$ca73c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "Tom Zell" , Subject: Re: Re:Crash Photos - No helmet EXTREMELY GORY Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:52:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Try this: http://www.goregallery.com/motorcycle.htm BEWARE! These are pictures of a dead motorcyclist. They are extremely disgusting. Do not click this link if you have a weak stomach. -----Original Message----- From: Tom Zell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 12:20 PM Subject: Re:Crash Photos - No helmet EXTREMELY GORY > >Uhhh... what crash photos? I didn't see any... > >-Tom >'86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 13:50:13 1999 Return-Path: mpollack@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07804 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mbunix.mitre.org (mbunix.mitre.org [129.83.20.100]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA11957 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mail.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by mbunix.mitre.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21717 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orville.mitre.org (128.29.29.76) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 798638; Thu, 06 May 1999 13:20:10 EST Sender: mpollack@XXXXXX Message-ID: <3731CF4B.7DDAE1F6@mitre.org> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:20:11 -0400 From: Matthew Pollack X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: [Fwd: Future ride possibility] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sorry, I forgot to mention that the ride is done many times a year, and that it will be in Columbia, MD on September 19, 1999. Matthew '91 CB-750 Nighthawk Matthew Pollack wrote: > > I jst found out about a charity ride sponsored by Honda, called Ride For Kids® / Pediatric Brain > Tumor Foundation of the United States. It looks like this could be a good fall ride for a group of > us to attend and show our support. More info can be found at http://www.ride4kids.org I'll look > into the details more, and keep the list posted. > > Matthew Pollack > '91 CB-750 Nighthawk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 13:50:30 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07810 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:50:28 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA10116 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA15401; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:07:46 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma027148; Thu, 6 May 99 11:46:55 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBB00K05IKCZ1@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:48:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256769.005676CE ; Thu, 06 May 1999 11:44:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 11:38:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Saturday ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256769.005753DE.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I'd be up for it, but I'd like it to be pretty early. My family is celebrating Mom's day at noon. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 Collin wrote: Hey all... I'm up for leading a ride of some sort this saturday...preferably on the early side and moderate length.... In all likelihood, starting from the Sterling area, or if majority wants, maybe out towards Middleburg for the start... ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 13:51:41 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07864 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:51:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgobf12156; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256769.00624970 ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:53:33 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "David Cross" cc: "dc-cycles" Message-ID: <85256769.006247D3.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:43:47 -0400 Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline The funny thing is, this is true even not at lights! I was riding to work the other day, heading toward the Rossyln Key Bridge and TWICE almost got run over by some dumb cager intruding on my lane. Therefore, I decided I'd had enough and lane-split the rest of the way over the bridge. No lectures, please, it certainly was a lot more safe than getting run over! LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "David Cross" on 05/06/99 11:13:35 AM To: "dc-cycles" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful >Biker Killed In Crash - (MIDDLE RIVER) -- A motorcyclist was killed instantly in Middle River after his bike was hit from behind. Witnesses say 55-year-old Joseph Stroh was on his motorcycle, stopped at a red light when he was struck and pushed into the back of a pickup truck. > For this reason I think motorcyclists should be allowed to lane-split at intersections with traffic lights. Let us filter to the front so we dont have to worry about someone crushing us from behind. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 13:54:02 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07902 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 13:53:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FBB00HN5ND3YI@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:31:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA13205; Thu, 06 May 1999 17:32:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990506173219.OXW31175@toddnt>; Thu, 06 May 1999 12:32:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 13:29:27 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: NO - MOTO - StopTheWar To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Message-id: <002501be97e5$fdb0a5f0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal http://www.StopTheWarNow.com/ For those of you who care enough. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 14:34:02 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08638 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA21301 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 6 May 1999 11:14:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: [Fwd: Saturday ride] Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:14:06 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Huh.. what, fast paced? You DO know that Collin rides a cruiser.. right? ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: Okan Seremetoglu [mailto:okan1262@XXXXXX] > Finally, A fast pace ride. Where are we meeting exactly and > what time?? > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 14:34:00 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08636 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA19745 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA04689 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:04:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA09411 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 14:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id LAA09643 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 6 May 1999 11:04:20 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 6 May 1999 11:04:20 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Rider's Accessory Warehouse Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:04:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just got back from Art's in Falls Church - He's shutting down his business and is clearing out the store. Prices are quite good on what's left. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 15:20:20 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09620 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:20:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AB721B3B0272; Thu, 06 May 1999 15:20:18 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990506151457.02cd5820@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:17:01 -0400 To: "dc-cycles" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful In-Reply-To: <85256769.006247D3.00@172.16.2.37> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:43 PM 5/6/99 , Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >TWICE almost got run over by some dumb cager intruding on my lane. >Therefore, I >decided I'd had enough and lane-split the rest of the way over the bridge. No >lectures, please, it certainly was a lot more safe than getting run over! LOL >- Jeannette No lectures from me. Lane-splitting is accepted in California as resulting in fewer accidents. With the most common wrecks being rear-enders caused by car drivers, I should think we could get lane-splitting allowed here, too. Washington, DC, home of the 2nd-worst traffic in the country, next only to Los Angeles. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 15:27:11 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09745 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:27:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA04691 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:27:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FBB0015GRZ6GR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:11:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA16193; Thu, 06 May 1999 19:08:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990506191205.JWR8985@toddnt>; Thu, 06 May 1999 14:12:05 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:09:12 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Re:Crash Photos - No helmet EXTREMELY GORY In-reply-to: <01f601be97e0$d694d860$ca73c3d0@bruce> To: Bruce Norton , Tom Zell , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002a01be97f3$ed6b6c80$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Hmmm, looks like all the same guy. Pretty disturbing. Anybody remember the 'Gallery of the Grotesque' that used to be on the web (couple of years ago). Now THAT was original. Won't go into gory detail, but this pales in comparison to some of those nightmare images.....yech! Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Bruce Norton [mailto:bnorton@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 12:53 PM > To: Tom Zell; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Re:Crash Photos - No helmet EXTREMELY GORY > > > Try this: > > http://www.goregallery.com/motorcycle.htm > > BEWARE! These are pictures of a dead motorcyclist. They are extremely > disgusting. Do not click this link if you have a weak stomach. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 15:27:23 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09755 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:27:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA04693 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FBB0017SRZ86G@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:11:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta4.mcit.com (omta4.mcit.com [166.37.204.6]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA04096; Thu, 06 May 1999 19:12:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta4.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990506191207.JWT8985@toddnt>; Thu, 06 May 1999 14:12:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:09:15 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Saturday ride In-reply-to: To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <002b01be97f3$eeb0e4d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > Speaking of which, anyone care for some punishment in the dirt on 5/16 in > the afternoon? Playground to be decided, excessively tight trails likely. > My brother is recovering nicely from our last time out (popped off > kneecap). :) Wow Kirk, you really know how to generate interest ;) I might be up for something it isn't too far to ride. Todd From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 15:32:43 1999 Return-Path: okan1262@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA09870 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:32:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-37-127.s127.tnt7.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-37-127.s127.tnt7.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.37.127]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id PAA28555 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:32:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp4.erols.com: 207-172-37-127.s127.tnt7.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.37.127] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <3731EFA2.67DF@erols.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:38:10 -0400 From: Okan Seremetoglu Reply-To: okan1262@XXXXXX Organization: The American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [Fwd: Saturday ride] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah I do know he rides a cruiser, but I do know that he rides that faster than anybody in the rides. And especially much faster than me. So it will be a fast ride(for me at least). McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > Huh.. what, fast paced? You DO know that Collin rides a cruiser.. right? > > ;) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Okan Seremetoglu [mailto:okan1262@XXXXXX] > > > Finally, A fast pace ride. Where are we meeting exactly and > > what time?? > > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 15:40:43 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10068 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA07251 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 398; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:40:22 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990506153910.012f2f10@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 15:40:20 -0400 To: "Collin T. Fagan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: non-moto: PC recommendations... In-Reply-To: <19990506175013.29551.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just an FYI for everyone, two companies around here seem to have the best deals. GT Computing (in Herndon and Woodbridge) and IBN in Vienna. (www.ibnc.com). I do lots of side work for IBNC, they build all of my machines at great prices. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 15:46:55 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10251 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (207-172-69-34.s257.tnt9.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.69.34]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22891; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007b01be97f9$5a6a0120$2245accf@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "Collin T. Fagan" , References: <19990506150502.2858.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: Saturday ride Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:48:01 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I'm interested. The earlier the better because my wife and I have a party to attend in Manassas at 7:30 that evening. Roy D. Turner, Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: Collin T. Fagan To: Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 11:05 AM Subject: Saturday ride > Hey all... I'm up for leading a ride of some sort this > saturday...preferably on the early side and moderate length.... > In all likelihood, starting from the Sterling area, or if majority > wants, maybe out towards Middleburg for the start... > > What say ya'll?? > > Collin > > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 16:40:38 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA11071 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA19154 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:38:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22836 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:37:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:37:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Saturday ride In-Reply-To: <002b01be97f3$eeb0e4d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 May 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > > Speaking of which, anyone care for some punishment in the dirt on > > 5/16 in the afternoon? Playground to be decided, excessively tight > > trails likely. My brother is recovering nicely from our last time out > > (popped off kneecap). :) > > Wow Kirk, you really know how to generate interest ;) Hey, why candy coat things? :) Just like in street riding you can take the dirt riding at your own pace. Just like I do in leading a street ride I will wait at intersections when out on a dirt ride. Unlike on a street ride I will go 100% at times on the dirt. However, 100% can be pretty slow - and I'm not an experienced dirt rider so my 100% isn't that fast any way. I would like to find more dirt riders (and places to ride)... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 17:00:16 1999 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA11506 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:00:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natiboh.torrentnet.com (natiboh.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.1]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA23433 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 17:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natiboh.torrentnet.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA18157 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 15:12:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com(207.172.3.236) by natiboh.torrentnet.com via smap (V2.0) id xma018147; Thu, 6 May 99 15:12:12 -0500 Received: from defcon (207-172-183-214.s214.tnt20.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.183.214]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA04838 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 16:10:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01fe01be97a0$5adf55a0$d6b7accf@defcon> From: "Leslie N. Forewright" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" References: <002b01be97f3$eeb0e4d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Subject: Re: Saturday ride Dirt Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 16:10:57 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 anyone care for some punishment in the dirt on 5/16 in the afternoon? Playground to be decided, excessively tight trails likely. Wow Kirk, you really know how to generate interest ;) I might be up for something it isn't too far to ride. Todd Hey Todd and Kirk...a dirt ride sounds sweet....i'll put my non DOT knobby on and trailor the bike to an area near where we ride and road it to the trails....don't wanna wear out a new nobbie slabbing it around on the pavement....besides it rolls alot on the pavement...kinda side to side motion ya know...if ya wont to Todd I can trailer your bike up also....kinda worn out after a romp in the woods huh....Les... P.S. I passed a place the other day on my way from picking up a 3 wheeler down in Hampton...it was right beside I-95 in Fredriskburg before the exit that was nothing but trails and a mini MX track...saw about twenty 4 wheelers and alot of bikes out there in dirt...one heck of a dust cloud too.....you guys no anything about it....I was thinking about riding down there and checking it out sometime.... From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 19:43:14 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA13918 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:43:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA22243 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26079 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:42:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Sunday Re: Saturday ride Dirt In-Reply-To: <01fe01be97a0$5adf55a0$d6b7accf@defcon> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 May 1999, Leslie N. Forewright wrote: > anyone care for some punishment in the dirt on 5/16 in the afternoon? > Playground to be decided, excessively tight trails likely. > > Hey Todd and Kirk...a dirt ride sounds sweet. Les, the 16th is a sunday but a dirt ride would be sweet nonetheless... :) I know of spots in MD but am willing to head to VA if you know of good stuff over there. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 19:49:03 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA14204 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:49:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA14292 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-254.s63.as4.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.254]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id SAA02815 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005701be9813$aa3122a0$fe4daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Bikers on nbc4 Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:56:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Pretty good piece on bikers. I good comment was how people that don't ride just don't understand way we all love it. See ya, Brian N. 96 Yamaha FZR600 P.S. Was that a DOT helmet Jim Vance was wearing on his parting shot? Don't think so! From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 19:49:11 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA14207 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:49:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA12621 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:47:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-80-56.s56.as5.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.80.56]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA08454; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <044f01be9812$5c07c940$3850accf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: , "Kirk Roy" References: Subject: Re: Saturday ride DIRT! Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:47:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I would like to go play on the dirt. What time are you thinking about going and where? Keep us informed. Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 > > Speaking of which, anyone care for some punishment in the dirt on 5/16 in > the afternoon? Playground to be decided, excessively tight trails likely. > My brother is recovering nicely from our last time out (popped off > kneecap). :) > > Kirk > 98 Honda VTR1000 > 84 Honda XR350R > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 19:49:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA14215 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 19:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA14492 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA08707 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:58:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA19761 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:58:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-254.s63.as4.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.254]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id SAA06345 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 18:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <006001be9814$34b50900$fe4daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: Rider's Accessory Warehouse Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:00:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 To bad Art's closing his store. He is quit knowledgable whenever you had a question. His prices were quit reasonable compared in the bigger shop. Whenever making purchases I've also prefer to buy from the smaller guys. His store will surely be missed. Brian N 96 Yamaha FZR600 -----Original Message----- From: Jordan, Michael To: DC-Cycles Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 2:48 PM Subject: Rider's Accessory Warehouse >Just got back from Art's in Falls Church - He's shutting down his business >and is clearing out the store. Prices are quite good on what's left. > >Michael J. > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 20:29:36 1999 Return-Path: ursulina@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA15223 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 20:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA29863 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 20:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-41-201.s201.tnt10.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.41.201]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA22323 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 20:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <030701be9839$6a10db40$8e75accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: Subject: Re: Saturday ride from Sterling Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 20:26:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hi Anita, I was wondering if you'd be leading a moderately paced group. I'm sure if you do, more folks will come out of the wood work and join the ride. The thought of trying to keep up with Collin's group is just too stressful!!! - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: Collin T. Fagan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Saturday ride >Well, looks like there is decent interest, so.... > >How bout we leave from the Burger King in Sterling at 0930 on >Saturday...I'll think up a decent route between now and then.. minimum >100 miles, and up to 300 depending on interest of those that show up... > >As always, I expect we will split into two groups. One to zip along a >bit above the speed limit (what scenery??), the other somewhere fairly >close to it. I'll most likely lead the faster group on my Maxim 650, >so you know the pace won't get to "plaid" he he he > >To get to the BK, head west on rte7 (leesburgh pike) continue past the >NOVA campus on your right, and you will find the BK on your right in >just under a mile. Or take the Dulles toll road west to 28 north and >then 7 east. BK will be on left between first and second light (haveta >do a u-turn at the second light). >I'll be there between 0900-0915 ready to go.... > >If it's raining, I WON'T BE THERE... no pleasure riding in the rain for >me...currently the forecast looks decent, but I haven't had a lot of >faith in the forecasters lately... > >Collin > >=== >Collin T. Fagan >DC-Cycles Racing >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ >Proudly sponsored by: >Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) >Avon Racing Tyres >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 21:31:46 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com ([206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16322 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id VAA19035 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:31:01 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:31:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles Subject: AMA dirt track racing @ Hagerstown Sat night Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Was wondering if anyone else is planning on going up to Hagerstown speedway Sat night to watch the AMA races? Hagerstown is a GREAT high-banked dirt oval (.5 mile) and is a blast to watch racing. I've been up there for World of Outlaw sprint car races, but not to see the AMA - should be fun. Gates open at 4, practice starts at 6pm, racing at 8pm. I think it's $22 More info at www.hagerstownspeedway.com - Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 21:34:02 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA16370 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:34:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id VAA06750 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 7 May 1999 00:19:58 UT Date: Thu, 06 May 1999 17:08 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Kirk Roy" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:RE: Saturday ride Message-ID: <19990506171110982-aed295e@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey!! Supply the dirt bike (preferably an off-road only deal like a CR or KX) and I'm there!! lol -Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: Saturday ride Author: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Date: 5/6/99 4:37 PM On Thu, 6 May 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > > Speaking of which, anyone care for some punishment in the dirt on > > 5/16 in the afternoon? Playground to be decided, excessively tight > > trails likely. My brother is recovering nicely from our last time out > > (popped off kneecap). :) > > Wow Kirk, you really know how to generate interest ;) Hey, why candy coat things? :) Just like in street riding you can take the dirt riding at your own pace. Just like I do in leading a street ride I will wait at intersections when out on a dirt ride. Unlike on a street ride I will go 100% at times on the dirt. However, 100% can be pretty slow - and I'm not an experienced dirt rider so my 100% isn't that fast any way. I would like to find more dirt riders (and places to ride)... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 22:13:44 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17090 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 22:13:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (31) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2NLSa13996 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:52:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:52:10 EDT Subject: Re: Saturday ride / Collin's cruiser To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Last ride we had, I ended up following Collin after my father and Todd dropped back after switching bikes.....(I was actually quite comfortable being 4th back behind them....) If it weren't for the CBR's tremendous horsepower on the straights, I met never have known he was in front of me...... -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 22:19:16 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17180 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 22:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA14294 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA28483 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 21:53:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 21:53:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re:RE: Saturday ride In-Reply-To: <19990506171110982-aed295e@fanniemaefoundation.org> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 May 1999, Tom Zell wrote: > Hey!! Supply the dirt bike (preferably an off-road only deal like a CR > or KX) and I'm there!! lol Sure, Tom, I've got a 99 Husky 460 that you can use. I park it right next to my 1918 Excelsior-Henderson that's also available to ride to anyone in the group... :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 6 22:49:35 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA17698 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 22:49:32 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA22641 for ; Thu, 6 May 1999 22:49:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (3927) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nKCOa27692; Thu, 6 May 1999 22:06:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:06:32 EDT Subject: Re: Saturday ride from Sterling To: ursulina@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 I'll volunteer to lead a slower paced group, if needbe. But bare with me if I do because, except for the major routes, I don't know VA all that well. Otherwise, I'll hang out and ride "tailgunner." Robert "I prefer to see the scenery" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 00:50:38 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA20260 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 00:50:37 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA12113 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 00:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (3936) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rCZTa24272; Thu, 6 May 1999 22:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <89bdbe28.2463a81a@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:21:14 EDT Subject: Re: Saturday ride To: gixer_racer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/6/1999 2:31:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gixer_racer@XXXXXX writes: << To get to the BK, head west on rte7 (leesburgh pike) continue past the NOVA campus on your right, and you will find the BK on your right in just under a mile. Or take the Dulles toll road west to 28 north and then 7 east. BK will be on left between first and second light (haveta do a u-turn at the second light). I'll be there between 0900-0915 ready to go.... >> >From someone who gets lost pulling out of his driveway, I assume that from DC take 66 to Dulles Toll Road. Get off on 28, right? This is near the usual meet of the Exxon, right? HELP, I'M LOST ALREADY!!!! :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 07:05:12 1999 Return-Path: anita_gpz@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27224 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 07:05:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web206.mail.yahoo.com (web206.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.106]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id GAA10287 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 06:48:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990507104741.27813.rocketmail@web206.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.161.15.39] by web206.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 03:47:41 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 03:47:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Anita Lauro Subject: Re: Saturday ride from Sterling To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Ursulina Viteri wrote: > Hi Anita, > > I was wondering if you'd be leading a moderately > paced group. Ordinarily I'd be happy to but I'm out of town for the next week... looks like Robert has offered to fill in, though! :-) Anita _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 07:21:50 1999 Return-Path: ursulina@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA27468 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 07:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-87-55.s55.tnt6.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.87.55]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA24952 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 07:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <037301be9894$8a8c8800$8e75accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: Subject: Re: Saturday ride from Sterling Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:18:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hey, tailgunner is my place in the group rides! : ) - - Ursulina -----Original Message----- From: NJitzul@XXXXXX To: ursulina@XXXXXX ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 7:42 PM Subject: Re: Saturday ride from Sterling >I'll volunteer to lead a slower paced group, if needbe. But bare with me if I >do because, except for the major routes, I don't know VA all that well. >Otherwise, I'll hang out and ride "tailgunner." > >Robert "I prefer to see the scenery" VanSlyke >83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 08:09:15 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA28137 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 08:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 7 May 1999 08:08:04 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFE2F@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Chris Norloff'" , dc-cycles Subject: RE: Another fatality, Be Careful Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 08:08:07 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I think we passed LA late last year which makes us the worst in the country. Glenn >Washington, DC, home of the 2nd-worst traffic in the country, next only to >Los Angeles. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 09:25:54 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29433 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id JAA06027 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990507132548.26238.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 06:25:48 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 06:25:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Saturday ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > From someone who gets lost pulling out of his driveway, I assume that > from DC > take 66 to Dulles Toll Road. Get off on 28, right? This is near the > usual > meet of the Exxon, right? Sorry, I just assumed everyone knew to head 66 west to get to the toll road... There's actually a LOT of various routes to get up to sterling, I just listed the two that I thought were quickest... guess I should expand a bit.... >From DC, if you want to take the scenic route, take GW parkway all the way up to 495 southbound, immediately take the 193 (georgetown pike) exit and follow that all the way to route 7, take a right turn on 7 and the BK is 4.? miles on the right a little past the NOVA campus. >From DC and or south and you're cheap and don't want to spring the 85 cents for the tolll road, you can take 66 (or 50) west until it reaches 28 north, 7 east, BK on left side of the road between 1st and 2nd lights. >From DC and south and you want to get there quick, 66 west, toll road (267), 28 north, 7 east, etc. as above.... >From maryland on the norht side of the beltway, I'd recommend 495 (western side to Tyson's Corner), take 193 (georgetown pike) exit, to route 7, right turn, BK 4.? miles on the right... >From Tyson's corner, falls church, parts of alexandria, etc. 7 west is probably the easiest, but not necessarily the fastest cause of all the dang stop lights. Also, for the south people that know the areas decent, you can come up a few of the nicer back roads like Sunshine Valley to Hunter Mill, to Baron Cameron, to 7.... or wiele to reston parkway to 7, fairfax county parkway, etc.... OK, I'll shut up now ;-) Oh yeah, there's a 7-11 right next to the BK for gas, and a few other stations in the vicinity (but no Exxon right there close scooter...) Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 09:45:56 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA29843 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id JAA24611 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE986E.507211B0@XXXXXX>; Fri, 7 May 1999 09:45:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'DCC'" Subject: FW: Bikes in the Bottom Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 09:45:16 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just in case anyone on the list is interested in going to Richmond this Sunday.... Rich (cross-poster extrordinaire) '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet >Bikes in the Bottom Biker Breakfast and Gathering >17th & Main Streets at the Farmer's Market >Shockoe Bottom >Richmond, VA >Information call 1-888-608-9575 and I'll get back to you > >Bikes in the Bottom this Sunday, starting around 9am and lasting till ??? >All day event, live music, displays by MotoEuropa, R & S Triumph Kawasaki, >maybe the Brit Bike Club? > > We are considering moving Bikes in the Bottom to Poe's Pub, at the "Top O >the Bottom" up the hill on Main Street. They have asked for our business >and >I think they will do what ever is necessary to show us a good time. Based >on >last months experience with Havana 59, I am afraid they will serve us >during >the summer when we have large crowds, and be gone in the winter. Comments, >opinions are welcome. Please let me know your feelings. > >Thanks for your support of this event! > >Bill Z > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 10:10:21 1999 Return-Path: redbelly@XXXXXX Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00345 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from boo.net ([156.40.49.10]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA3534697 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3732F122.2DD55C62@boo.net> Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:56:51 -0400 From: Jay Goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Interceptor still for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit These are the basics, call or email me if you need more info. 85 Honda Interceptor 500 25k miles, good tires & brakes, needs nothing, $1300/obo 301-738-0263 Thanks!! Jay From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 10:21:10 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00612 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:21:09 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA29860; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:21:21 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa28554; Fri, 7 May 99 10:20:01 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBD00AQS97TC4@XXXXXX>; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525676A.004E891B ; Fri, 07 May 1999 10:17:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 10:15:02 -0400 Subject: RE: Speeding ticket aftermath... To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" Cc: "'Anita Lauro'" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525676A.004F6962.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL FYI ... I got tagged on I-95 in NC (in a cage for 79 in a 65) and was amazed that it was only a $70 ticket. No reckless, just a slip of paper and I was on my way ... YMMV, --chris To: 'Anita Lauro' <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" Date: 05/05/99 12:35:57 PM GMT Subject: RE: Speeding ticket aftermath... --snip-- the in WV 15 over is considered reckless, I've heard that 10 over is in NC but I'm not sure if I really trust the source. Glenn --snip-- ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 10:27:21 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00732 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:27:19 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA17705 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:27:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (8020) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rBFHa13996; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:25:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:25:06 EDT Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? To: redsullivan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 oh c'mon - I admit 12 hours is better but at least it isn't two like it is for cars... but I try to park on the sidewalk anyway ;D been knocked over too many times Marcy In a message dated 5/6/99 11:39:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, redsullivan@XXXXXX writes: > who has time > to plug the meter or move their bike every four hours? From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 10:33:52 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA00859 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:33:51 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (8020) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2TEVa27693 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:32:33 EDT Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 I dunno.........I was on the LA freeways last summer on a Harley and it was TERRIFYING (of course I was on the BACK of the Harley so that didn't help.... ;D ) but my god the traffic there is insane compared to here ....six solid lanes of cars doing about 70 minimum and the occassional sport bike splitting lanes between all that (legal in CA) marcy In a message dated 5/7/99 8:15:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dysart@XXXXXX writes: > I think we passed LA late last year which makes us the worst in the country. > > Glenn > > > >Washington, DC, home of the 2nd-worst traffic in the country, next only to > >Los Angeles. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 10:50:40 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA01250 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 10:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990507145345.26633.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web301.yahoomail.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 07:53:45 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:53:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Another fatality, Be Careful To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeah, but they are MOVING.. and none of the stop and go superdanger you have around here.... As for heavy high speed... go to Houston....8+ lanes of traffic in each direction, minimum 80mph, and people ride bumpers like they're sitting at stop lights... definitely an experience... Collin --- JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > I dunno.........I was on the LA freeways last summer on a Harley and > it was > TERRIFYING (of course I was on the BACK of the Harley so that didn't > help.... > ;D ) but my god the traffic there is insane compared to here ....six > solid > lanes of cars doing about 70 minimum and the occassional sport bike > splitting > lanes between all that (legal in CA) > > marcy > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 12:13:35 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03064 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:13:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA06859 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgoeq05369; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525676A.00594C88 ; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:15:22 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX cc: redsullivan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525676A.00594ACE.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:05:40 -0400 Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline ...but what is the REASON for bikes to be limited to 4 hours? That is my point. Unlike cars, there are not scads of bikes waiting to take the space my bike just vacated. Cars, at least, are limited to 2 hours so that the businesses that the spaces are in front of will have somewhere for their customers to park. THAT, at least, makes some semblance sense. - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 JinnSinn@XXXXXX on 05/07/99 10:25:06 AM To: redsullivan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: WHAT!!?? oh c'mon - I admit 12 hours is better but at least it isn't two like it is for cars... but I try to park on the sidewalk anyway ;D been knocked over too many times Marcy In a message dated 5/6/99 11:39:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, redsullivan@XXXXXX writes: > who has time > to plug the meter or move their bike every four hours? From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 12:55:50 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA03944 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 12:55:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id AB102E05028C; Fri, 07 May 1999 12:55:44 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990507123507.0149b200@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 12:35:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Agency Accused of Blind Spot Regarding Danger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Washington Post (Washington, DC) 7 May 1999 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-05/07/055l-050799-idx.html Agency Accused of Blind Spot Regarding Danger By Cindy Skrzycki Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, May 7, 1999; Page E01=20 This is what deer must feel like. Some imported luxury cars have started sporting new-generation ultra-bright headlights that use "high-intensity discharge" (HID) lighting. The lights look different, and clearly hit people on the receiving end differently, from the halogen headlamps found on most automobiles. The new lights make night seem like day, some say. They're hard to miss, and government regulators are increasingly hearing from drivers and pedestrians who call them blinding and dangerous. Bill Owen, a legal secretary and landscape photographer who lives in Kensington, has complained to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, state attorneys general and auto safety groups, asking that the new lights be banned. "Drivers approaching vehicles equipped with HID super-bright headlights are blinded by the disproportionately and inappropriately bright headlights of the car coming towards them. I personally experienced this myself recently. I had great difficulty seeing the other car, the road, the lane I was in, parked cars and pedestrians. After the car passed me, I looked in my rear-view mirror and saw the distinctive rear lights of a new Mercedes," Owen said in a letter to NHTSA Administrator Ricardo Martinez. HID lighting doesn't strike regulators as a problem, as long as the headlamps meet the safety performance standard set by the government. "Today's headlamps are brighter and have a wider beam pattern than older headlamps that existed before 1978. However, our lighting standard does not permit any more light in the beam pattern above horizontal, where it has the most effect on other drivers, than it allowed for the older lamps. Thus, headlamps on new motor vehicles today must meet the same intensity requirements as headlamps have had to meet for the last 20 years," L. Robert Shelton, NHTSA's associate administrator for safety performance standards, said in response to Owens's letter. The new lamps are made to produce more light, use less energy and last longer than a halogen lamp. Shelton added that they are expensive and likely to be used only on upscale cars and trucks. NHTSA estimates that one-hundredth of 1 percent of cars on the road sport HID lamps. Some motorists may not be seeing white when they confront a high-intensity discharge light because at the outer boundaries of the beam the white may have yellow, red, purple, blue or green in it. A growing number of halogen lights are HID impostors, or "cheap things dipped in blue dye," said Rich Van Iderstein, chief of NHTSA's visibility and control division. They do not meet the agency's standards.=20 "The people who started selling these bulbs were trying to replicate the look of HID lamps, white with some blue highlights. They increase glare two, three, four, five times because the bulbs are so poorly executed," Van Iderstein said. According to the standard, headlamp bulbs must have three markings on them -- including one that says "DOT" (for the Department of Transportation, NHTSA's parent agency) -- before they can be installed legally. Vehicle owners can buy fake HID lamps at their neighborhood automotive supply store or off the Internet, but, once installed, they are supposed to be only for off-road use. That restriction is commonly ignored, leaving it up to state and local authorities to ticket violators. Looking at this in another light, there are blue halogen lights that meet the government standard. Osram Sylvania, for instances, advertises its Cool Blue headlights as "White hot. Super cool. 100% street legal." Sylvania also makes HID lights, and it expects use of the new systems to increase rapidly on cars sold in the United States. The company said HID is available or will be on some Lexus, Nissan, Volkswagen, BMW, Mercedes-Benz and General Motors models. That news dismays Owens, who says the headlights may meet the standard, but the standard may be wrong. "Using a cell phone in a car is legal, but it's an unsafe activity. Just because they are legal doesn't satisfy me that they are safe," he said. =20 =A9 Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company=20 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 13:10:15 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04235 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:10:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA12363 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:10:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:10:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Mick Doohan broken Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Unfortunately, for those of us hoping to see Kenny Roberts Jr do some more racing damage to Mick Doohan in the 500GPs, Mick has broken some bones in practice. I'm sure it'll still be fun to watch an American doing so well (and with Kocinski constantly mowing the lawn...) but it'll "color" Kenny's wins without Doohan out there... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 13:18:50 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04406 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:18:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990507172107.8894.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 10:21:07 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:21:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Agency Accused of Blind Spot Regarding Danger To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Interesting... I believe Kirk posted a tech article regarding these lights (compared to the el cheapo fake blue tinted ones) a while back. That article went in detail on how the lights work and also mentioned that while brighter overall, they produced much less glare and were less harsh on the eyes than conventional headlamps... I've seen em out on the road, and while I did notice that it seemed they did an excellent job of lighting ahead of the vehicle; however, they did not bother my eyes one bit at all (this coming from someone who is very light sensitive at night). The only one that did bother me was a jerk who had his left hand lamp way out of adjustment pointing directly off into the oncoming lane and upwards... CT --- Chris Norloff wrote: > Washington Post (Washington, DC) 7 May 1999 > The new lights make night seem like day, some say. They're hard to > miss, and government regulators are increasingly hearing from drivers > and pedestrians who call them blinding and dangerous. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 13:26:08 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04500 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA23393 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FBD00PYWGMD7L@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:01:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA23608; Fri, 07 May 1999 17:02:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990507170131.DZKY606@toddnt>; Fri, 07 May 1999 12:01:31 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 12:59:09 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Saturday ride Dirt In-reply-to: <01fe01be97a0$5adf55a0$d6b7accf@defcon> To: "Leslie N. Forewright" , DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <001301be98aa$ecb7bfc0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > > anyone care for some punishment in the dirt on 5/16 in the afternoon? > Playground to be decided, excessively tight trails likely. > > Wow Kirk, you really know how to generate interest ;) I might be up for > something it isn't too far to ride. Todd > > Hey Todd and Kirk...a dirt ride sounds sweet....i'll put my non DOT knobby > on and trailor the bike to an area near where we ride and road it to the > trails....don't wanna wear out a new nobbie slabbing it around on the > pavement....besides it rolls alot on the pavement...kinda side to side > motion ya know...if ya wont to Todd I can trailer your bike up > also....kinda > worn out after a romp in the woods huh....Les... Ok, I'll take you up on that. This is an expensive sport. I'm gonna need a truck or something, and some decent body armor. > > P.S. I passed a place the other day on my way from picking up a 3 wheeler > down in Hampton...it was right beside I-95 in Fredriskburg before the exit > that was nothing but trails and a mini MX track...saw about twenty 4 > wheelers and alot of bikes out there in dirt...one heck of a dust cloud > too.....you guys no anything about it....I was thinking about riding down > there and checking it out sometime.... > Never seen it. Right side? Might need to check this out. Kirks brother mentioned another place over in SoMd, near a hospital. How convenient! Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 13:26:08 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04501 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA23395 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FBD00P67GME2Q@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:01:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA18183; Fri, 07 May 1999 17:02:03 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990507170134.DZLE606@toddnt>; Fri, 07 May 1999 12:01:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 12:59:12 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Saturday ride DIRT! In-reply-to: <044f01be9812$5c07c940$3850accf@95> To: "D. Thompson" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Kirk Roy Message-id: <001401be98aa$ee58eca0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Cool! Stay tuned for more details > > > I would like to go play on the dirt. What time are you thinking > about going > and where? Keep us informed. > > Danny > '99 VFR > '93 DR 350 > "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." > 1 Samuel 2:30 > > > > Speaking of which, anyone care for some punishment in the dirt > on 5/16 in > > the afternoon? Playground to be decided, excessively tight > trails likely. > > My brother is recovering nicely from our last time out (popped off > > kneecap). :) > > > > Kirk > > 98 Honda VTR1000 > > 84 Honda XR350R > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 13:56:25 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web801.mail.yahoo.com (web801.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.61]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA05143 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 13:56:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990507180057.9531.rocketmail@web801.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web801.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 11:00:57 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:00:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Agency Accused of Blind Spot Regarding Danger To: "Collin T. Fagan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ever see these things being turned on? It's wild. The other night I was heading towards a cage around dusk (yeah, the loser should have ALREADY had his lights on, but I digress...) and I noticed this momentary FLASH! that came from his headlights. It was bright. Kinda like I just had a picture taken. When the cage passed me, I noticed the bulb filaments on his car glowing, like they were just getting warmed up. No real light yet, except for the initial spark. Is this normal, I wonder? The thought just now ocurred to me that maybe that headlight just chose that moment to break, or something. I think I'd prefer an instant-on type of light, instead of waiting for the lights to "warm up" first. Dale --- "Collin T. Fagan" wrote: > Interesting... I believe Kirk posted a tech article regarding these > lights (compared to the el cheapo fake blue tinted ones) a while > back. > That article went in detail on how the lights work and also mentioned > that while brighter overall, they produced much less glare and were > less harsh on the eyes than conventional headlamps... > > I've seen em out on the road, and while I did notice that it seemed > they did an excellent job of lighting ahead of the vehicle; however, > they did not bother my eyes one bit at all (this coming from someone > who is very light sensitive at night). The only one that did bother > me > was a jerk who had his left hand lamp way out of adjustment pointing > directly off into the oncoming lane and upwards... > > CT > > --- Chris Norloff wrote: > > Washington Post (Washington, DC) 7 May 1999 > > > The new lights make night seem like day, some say. They're hard to > > miss, and government regulators are increasingly hearing from > drivers > > and pedestrians who call them blinding and dangerous. > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 15:19:53 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07083 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:19:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA14065 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:19:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgofd05563; Fri, 7 May 1999 19:17:18 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525676A.006A298F ; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:19:34 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Todd Peer cc: "Leslie N. Forewright" , DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-ID: <8525676A.006A2839.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 15:09:51 -0400 Subject: RE: Saturday ride Dirt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm jealous, I wanna dirt bike!!! As a little girl I dreamed of having weekends like this! : ( - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Todd Peer on 05/07/99 12:59:09 PM To: "Leslie N. Forewright" , DC-Cycles Mailing List cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: RE: Saturday ride Dirt > Ok, I'll take you up on that. This is an expensive sport. I'm gonna need a truck or something, and some decent body armor. > > P.S. I passed a place the other day on my way from picking up a 3 wheeler > down in Hampton...it was right beside I-95 in Fredriskburg before the exit > that was nothing but trails and a mini MX track...saw about twenty 4 > wheelers and alot of bikes out there in dirt...one heck of a dust cloud > too.....you guys no anything about it....I was thinking about riding down > there and checking it out sometime.... > Never seen it. Right side? Might need to check this out. Kirks brother mentioned another place over in SoMd, near a hospital. How convenient! Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 15:54:01 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07761 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 15:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A4C910350268; Fri, 07 May 1999 15:53:45 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990507155153.014c7660@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:53:32 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: USA Today - Executives find wheel love Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://www.usatoday.com/money/bcovfri.htm P.S. What the hell is a "protective vest"? -- "Some of the high-powered riders say they have heard grumbling from management about the risks of an executive pursuing such a hobby. But Greg Emmerson, president of Corporate Protection Professionals, says his company doesn't discourage executives from riding. "We typically advise them to wear a protective vest if they ride," Emmerson says." From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 16:31:07 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web806.mail.yahoo.com (web806.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08601 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:31:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990507202913.4378.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web806.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 13:29:13 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:29:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: USA Today - Executives find wheel love To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Chris, "The protective vest is a very important piece of safety gear for today's discerning executives. In the case of a motorcycle accident, the executives head, neck, and arms can all be roadrashed completely away, but still leave the executive able to sit on his/her ass and contribute the same value to the company as before." :) Dale, just a little humble worker bee... --- Chris Norloff wrote: > http://www.usatoday.com/money/bcovfri.htm > > P.S. What the hell is a "protective vest"? -- > But Greg Emmerson, president of Corporate Protection Professionals, > says his company doesn't discourage executives from riding. > "We typically advise them to wear a protective vest if they ride," > Emmerson says." === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 16:38:15 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08710 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 7 May 1999 19:46:55 UT Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:35 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Agency Accused of Blind Spot Regarding Danger Message-ID: <19990507143814644-f87804c@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I can second that one... in fact, there is a company that markets a light-weight, HID system for incorporation into a standard H4 lens. I saw the short article on it in Motorcyclist and the price of entry was only $300. I'm planning to get a couple of sets for the VFRs. The only draw 12W for the entire system which is a lot better that the 90W that I have in there now. I think it will also throw about three times the light. ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Agency Accused of Blind Spot Regarding Danger Author: gixer_racer@XXXXXX (Collin T. Fagan) Date: 5/7/99 1:21 PM Interesting... I believe Kirk posted a tech article regarding these lights (compared to the el cheapo fake blue tinted ones) a while back. That article went in detail on how the lights work and also mentioned that while brighter overall, they produced much less glare and were less harsh on the eyes than conventional headlamps... I've seen em out on the road, and while I did notice that it seemed they did an excellent job of lighting ahead of the vehicle; however, they did not bother my eyes one bit at all (this coming from someone who is very light sensitive at night). The only one that did bother me was a jerk who had his left hand lamp way out of adjustment pointing directly off into the oncoming lane and upwards... CT From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 16:40:54 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08755 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:40:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 7 May 1999 19:49:52 UT Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:38 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:RE: Saturday ride Dirt Message-ID: <19990507144114623-f8a3f57@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've seen his place to (I think) as well as seeing kids CROSSING I95 with there CRs, etc. to get over there. Looks like a lot of fun. -Tom ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: Saturday ride Dirt Author: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX (Todd Peer) Date: 5/7/99 12:59 PM > > P.S. I passed a place the other day on my way from picking up a 3 wheeler > down in Hampton...it was right beside I-95 in Fredriskburg before the exit > that was nothing but trails and a mini MX track...saw about twenty 4 > wheelers and alot of bikes out there in dirt...one heck of a dust cloud > too.....you guys no anything about it....I was thinking about riding down > there and checking it out sometime.... > Never seen it. Right side? Might need to check this out. Kirks brother mentioned another place over in SoMd, near a hospital. How convenient! Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 16:44:04 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08843 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 7 May 1999 19:52:55 UT Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 14:43 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Agency Accused of Blind Spot Regarding Danger Message-ID: <19990507144414661-f8cfe9e@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't know a whole lot about HID but isn't it basically the same thing as the street lamps along the road or those huge lamps found in gymnasiums. I think the only difference is in how they're made to reflect light, right? -Tom ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Agency Accused of Blind Spot Regarding Danger Author: the_horkster@XXXXXX (Dale Horstman) Date: 5/7/99 2:00 PM Ever see these things being turned on? It's wild. The other night I was heading towards a cage around dusk (yeah, the loser should have ALREADY had his lights on, but I digress...) and I noticed this momentary FLASH! that came from his headlights. It was bright. Kinda like I just had a picture taken. When the cage passed me, I noticed the bulb filaments on his car glowing, like they were just getting warmed up. No real light yet, except for the initial spark. Is this normal, I wonder? The thought just now ocurred to me that maybe that headlight just chose that moment to break, or something. I think I'd prefer an instant-on type of light, instead of waiting for the lights to "warm up" first. Dale --- "Collin T. Fagan" wrote: > Interesting... I believe Kirk posted a tech article regarding these > lights (compared to the el cheapo fake blue tinted ones) a while > back. > That article went in detail on how the lights work and also mentioned > that while brighter overall, they produced much less glare and were > less harsh on the eyes than conventional headlamps... > > I've seen em out on the road, and while I did notice that it seemed > they did an excellent job of lighting ahead of the vehicle; however, > they did not bother my eyes one bit at all (this coming from someone > who is very light sensitive at night). The only one that did bother > me > was a jerk who had his left hand lamp way out of adjustment pointing > directly off into the oncoming lane and upwards... > > CT > > --- Chris Norloff wrote: > > Washington Post (Washington, DC) 7 May 1999 > > > The new lights make night seem like day, some say. They're hard to > > miss, and government regulators are increasingly hearing from > drivers > > and pedestrians who call them blinding and dangerous. > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 16:45:31 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web506.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08923 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:45:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990507204632.26367.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web506.yahoomail.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 13:46:32 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: USA Today - Executives find wheel love To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The reporter said "high-powered riders." Emmerson thought he said "rifles," and recommended a bullet-proof vest. Maybe he's talking about a high-visibility traffic vest. Maybe he's talking about the armored shirts that go under a leather jacket. Sean Sullivan --- Chris Norloff wrote: > http://www.usatoday.com/money/bcovfri.htm > > P.S. What the hell is a "protective vest"? -- > "Some of the high-powered riders say they have heard > grumbling from > management about the risks of an > executive pursuing such a hobby. > But Greg Emmerson, president of Corporate Protection > Professionals, > says his company doesn't discourage > executives from riding. "We > typically advise them to wear a protective vest if > they ride," Emmerson says." > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 16:56:22 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA09065 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:56:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web502.yahoomail.com (web502.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.69]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA01552 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 16:56:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990507205944.17896.rocketmail@web502.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web502.yahoomail.com; Fri, 07 May 1999 13:59:44 PDT Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 13:59:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: Saturday ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If anybody who hasn't picked up their t-shirts is going on Collin's ride, leave a message at 202-544-2855 and I'll bring them to you. Sean Sullivan --- "Collin T. Fagan" wrote: > Well, looks like there is decent interest, so.... > > How bout we leave from the Burger King in Sterling > at 0930 on > Saturday...I'll think up a decent route between now > and then.. minimum > 100 miles, and up to 300 depending on interest of > those that show up... > > As always, I expect we will split into two groups. > One to zip along a > bit above the speed limit (what scenery??), the > other somewhere fairly > close to it. I'll most likely lead the faster group > on my Maxim 650, > so you know the pace won't get to "plaid" he he he > > To get to the BK, head west on rte7 (leesburgh pike) > continue past the > NOVA campus on your right, and you will find the BK > on your right in > just under a mile. Or take the Dulles toll road > west to 28 north and > then 7 east. BK will be on left between first and > second light (haveta > do a u-turn at the second light). > I'll be there between 0900-0915 ready to go.... > > If it's raining, I WON'T BE THERE... no pleasure > riding in the rain for > me...currently the forecast looks decent, but I > haven't had a lot of > faith in the forecasters lately... > > Collin > > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 17:28:04 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09764 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:28:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (14403) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2VLMa20662; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 17:27:15 EDT Subject: New Tires / Rider's Warehouse close out To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cbr@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Since Art seemed to be offering some fairly good deals, I picked up some new tires on spec. I was hoping to get some Metzlers, or some D207's, but I got a set of D205's for $200. The new front is one size up on the profile, (from 60 to 70), but Art said (to my brother, who picked the tires up for me) "Kenny Roberts might notice the difference, but he won't.." We'll see. My old ones still have some life left, so I'm going to finish them off and then mount the new ones later. I'm going to get some good burnout footage too....anyone got a good looking set of leathers I can borrow so I can maximize the poseurish-ness of the pics? ;) -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 18:43:58 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA11104 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 18:43:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA04729; Fri, 7 May 1999 17:43:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv10-47.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.175) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma004692; Fri May 7 17:42:46 1999 Message-ID: <001101be98da$b201afa0$af72d9ce@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "Brian Roach" , "dc-cycles" References: Subject: Re: AMA dirt track racing @ Hagerstown Sat night Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:41:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I am going up myself, I have been going to the August races for several = years, it really is a great time. Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Brian Roach To: dc-cycles Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 9:31 PM Subject: AMA dirt track racing @ Hagerstown Sat night >=20 > Was wondering if anyone else is planning on going up to Hagerstown > speedway Sat night to watch the AMA races? >=20 > Hagerstown is a GREAT high-banked dirt oval (.5 mile) and is a blast = to > watch racing. I've been up there for World of Outlaw sprint car races, = but > not to see the AMA - should be fun. Gates open at 4, practice starts = at > 6pm, racing at 8pm. I think it's $22 >=20 > More info at www.hagerstownspeedway.com >=20 > - Brian >=20 >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 19:53:48 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA12336 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 19:53:46 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA08112 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 19:53:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id TAA01127; Fri, 7 May 1999 19:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905072353.TAA01127@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Saturday ride To: redsullivan@XXXXXX (Sean Sullivan) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 19:53:10 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19990507205944.17896.rocketmail@web502.yahoomail.com> from "Sean Sullivan" at May 7, 99 01:59:44 pm Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > If anybody who hasn't picked up their t-shirts is > going on Collin's ride, leave a message at > 202-544-2855 and I'll bring them to you. > Sean Sullivan > Sean, I have one surplus black XL ( I took one from Todd, and additional 4 waited for me at Colin's place. So I will bring one unused balc XL tomorrow, and pass it either to you or to lucky owner. _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Fri May 7 21:16:37 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA13867 for ; Fri, 7 May 1999 21:16:35 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (7983) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2DSWa16142; Fri, 7 May 1999 21:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 21:15:54 EDT Subject: Re: New Tires / Rider's Warehouse close out To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cbr@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/7/1999 5:34:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Eternity23@XXXXXX writes: << I'm going to get some good burnout footage too....anyone got a good looking set of leathers I can borrow so I can maximize the poseurish-ness of the pics? ;) -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F >> Depends, I got a new one-piece Vanson. Dark Dark Purple, Green, White, etc. Size 42. Only worn a couple times on the street so far. They fit me perfect, 6'2", 200 lbs. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Sat May 8 08:04:21 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27196 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 08:04:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA22240 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 07:03:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv10-09.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.137) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma022121; Sat May 8 07:03:19 1999 Message-ID: <000701be994a$86707860$8972d9ce@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Bad Thunderstorms heading towards you guys Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 08:01:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 For those that were planning that ride at the BK this morning, If you = get this, there is a line of some hefty T-storms that just moved through = here between 0730 and 0800. Still have those Hagerstown races tonight = though. hopefully this will all clear out before then..... Ride = Safe,,,, Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Sat May 8 08:57:04 1999 Return-Path: riders@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27988 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 08:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (209-122-199-233.s487.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.199.233]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id IAA12610; Sat, 8 May 1999 08:56:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37343241.45EC@erols.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 1999 08:46:57 -0400 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eternity23@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cbr@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Tires / Rider's Warehouse close out References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sean, Your burnouts can achieve maximum squidness if you wear a fear this t-shirt, gym shorts, tennies and skid lid. Remember to smile forthe camera! Eternity23@XXXXXX wrote: > > Since Art seemed to be offering some fairly good deals, I picked up some new > tires on spec. I was hoping to get some Metzlers, or some D207's, but I got a > set of D205's for $200. The new front is one size up on the profile, (from 60 > to 70), but Art said (to my brother, who picked the tires up for me) "Kenny > Roberts might notice the difference, but he won't.." We'll see. My old ones > still have some life left, so I'm going to finish them off and then mount the > new ones later. I'm going to get some good burnout footage too....anyone got > a good looking set of leathers I can borrow so I can maximize the > poseurish-ness of the pics? ;) > > -Sean Jordan > '93 CBR1000F -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Sat May 8 11:47:00 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00653 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:46:58 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (3961) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2VJPa17023 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 11:44:27 EDT Subject: Rain rain go away To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Well, I don't know how it was in Sterling this morning, but up here in Fredneck it was pouring down rain and thundersorms! Yuck!! SO needless to say, if you all went ahead and rode today, I didn't make it due to the nasty weather. Bummer! Robert "warm and dry" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Sat May 8 12:40:46 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01452 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:40:45 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (3704) by imo17.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2JNUa13994; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:39:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <32b0ab94.2465c2dd@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 12:39:57 EDT Subject: Re: Rain rain go away To: NJitzul@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/8/1999 11:54:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, NJitzul@XXXXXX writes: << Well, I don't know how it was in Sterling this morning, but up here in Fredneck it was pouring down rain and thundersorms! Yuck!! SO needless to say, if you all went ahead and rode today, I didn't make it due to the nasty weather. Bummer! Robert "warm and dry" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" >> I made it to Sterling and left when the rain slowed down. No ride for me either. :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request Sat May 8 12:59:46 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01770 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 12:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA21342 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:59:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv10-15.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.143) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma021324; Sat May 8 11:58:56 1999 Message-ID: <001501be9973$d277ade0$8f72d9ce@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Tomorrows Law Ride Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 12:57:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I will be riding into DC and meeting some friends at 0930 down at seven = corners then heading into DC on Rt 50 around 10am or so to the stadium = for staging. I'll be riding my Sportster, come on up and say Hi. http://pweb.netcom.com/~shephar1/kensharley1.gif Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Sun May 9 11:12:06 1999 Return-Path: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26985 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:12:05 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX (8081) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2UVTa03213 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:11:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <584ef81a.2466ff97@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 11:11:19 EDT Subject: Cleaning Brakes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Well, It wasn't all that hard to take off the caliper and clean the pads. Although I wish I had new pads to put back on. They were a little worn down. Cleaning the bike took dishwashing liquid, simple green, and a little 3D. I'm somewhat surprised that there is still paint on the bike. Not to mention skin on my fingers. The back rims still didn't come clean though. While cleaning the pads I wiped some grease off the rim and it took it all off pretty cleanly. So the questions are. A. Is It safe to use brake fluid to clean your rims? B. What is the legal amount of brake pad to pass inspection? Some of you were riding in that ride about a month ago and commented on my brake light staying on. Well, that was a pain in ass to get to and to adjust. I spent more time on that simple but irritating sensor than on the brakes. Two things completed and one more to go. I hope I can get back on the bike some time this week. Sunday is a great day to ride but I've got to go to work. I hope someone is enjoying the weather out there. Ride a couple extra miles for me will ya Trevor 98YZF600 (Was the slickest bike in town) From dc-cycles-request Sun May 9 12:49:38 1999 Return-Path: kwoods@XXXXXX Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA28355 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-mod-for-majordomo) with ESMTP id MAA21731 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:49:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:49:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Woods To: dc-cycles Subject: cbr list?? In-Reply-To: <001501be9973$d277ade0$8f72d9ce@oemcomputer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know several of you are on the CBR list as well as DC-Cycles... Can't get in touch with Paul, and the server's down. Anybody hear thru the grapvine what's going on?? -- Ken Woods kwoods@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Sun May 9 16:25:18 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm01sm.pmm.cw.net (pm01sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01546 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr17-dialup12.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.70.12]) by PM01SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35315) with SMTP id <0FBH00F9NFCZEJ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:24:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 16:23:41 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Cleaning Brakes To: TZimm2450@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <004a01be9a38$52305d60$0c463ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >A. Is It safe to use brake fluid to clean your rims? Hell no! Brake fluid eats paint and makes a good paint remover. It's also super slippery, if you get any on your tires, say good night, you're going down. >B. What is the legal amount of brake pad to pass inspection? I don't know exactly, but I would guess around 2mm. Cars are around 4mm minimum. Jon From dc-cycles-request Sun May 9 18:54:30 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA03752 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA24608 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.239.232]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA22413 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:54:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA03020 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:54:13 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma003018; Sun, 9 May 99 18:54:04 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990509185143.009d4460@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:54:03 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Myrtle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was checking out the Yahoo Clubs page, and the calendar is showing the Myrtle Beach Bike Fest as the 27-30th of this month. But isn't it this coming weekend? A guy in my neighborhood took off on his Harley for a week at Myrtle - clutching a bike week flyer in his hand. Just curious. Got out riding today on both the Nighthawk and the VFR. Had to drop the NH off at Manassas Honda for it's pre-sale repairs (tach shattered from hail). Fun to hop on it after a week on the VFR. Wish I could keep both bikes ;-) MT _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Sun May 9 20:29:54 1999 Return-Path: dreamer@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA05262 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brat.knowhere.net (p60.a4.du.radix.net [207.192.130.188]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA08085 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:29:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905100029.UAA08085@mail1.radix.net> X-Sender: dreamer@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 20:26:39 -0400 To: DC Cycles From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Subject: Law Ride 99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Did anyone else make it to the Law Ride today? I had to get up pretty early this morning to scrape all of the Southern Maryland bugs off of the Virago from my trip down to the tip of Southern Maryland on Saturday. There's a park there at the tip called Point Lookout. It's a really nice ride down there and some good seafood on the way back. The Law Ride today was quite a sight! Several thousand bikes at least. Lots of beautiful bikes and odd people to check out at RFK before the ride. Real Scots bagpipes at the ceremony. Didn't see any DC Cycles folks but you could have lost a whole bike club at this place easily! Came home with a heck of a sunburn but it was fun. Dawn Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX '96 Virago 1100 Special, KnowMad From dc-cycles-request Sun May 9 21:21:28 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA06068 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:21:27 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX (8048) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2JPAa04194; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1aab3788.24678e67@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:20:39 EDT Subject: One Lap Of West Virginia To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: , Lordorange@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 My wife and I plan on doing one lap of West Virginia on Memorial Day weekend. We will leave the Sheetz station in Charles Town at 9:ooAM Saturday the 29th of May. This will not be a highly organized deal. If any of you would like to go along please meet us at the starting point. We plan to camp out and will probably take Sat, Sun , and Mon. to make the complete circuit. Our idea is ride all the way around the state using roads on the extreme edges as far as possible. We will try to avoid the slab and even major two lanes. If this sounds like fun please jion us. Also feel free to forward this to anyone or any other list who might be interested. Bob McKeithen From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 04:09:00 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA13288 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 04:08:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr42-dialup51.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.76.115]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35324) with SMTP id <0FBI00NL6BXYJO@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:08:26 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 04:07:27 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Cleaning Brakes To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <001801be9a9a$a097da20$734c3ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >>B. What is the legal amount of brake pad to pass inspection? > >I don't know exactly, but I would guess around 2mm. Cars are around 4mm >minimum. >Jon Oops, that should be 0.5mm, not 2mm. New pads are usually 4.5mm or so thick. Jon From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 08:05:07 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.13]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA16892 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA29917; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:04:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv10-40.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.168) by dfw-ix13.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma029911; Mon May 10 07:04:23 1999 Message-ID: <001101be9adc$ff99ba60$a872d9ce@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "DC Cycles" , "Dawn G.T. Gibson" References: <199905100029.UAA08085@mail1.radix.net> Subject: Re: Law Ride 99 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:02:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I made it also Dawn, love running all the lights through DC ;), anyway, = being Scots its a hell of a lot of work for 15 minutes of the pipes but = well worth it..The neatest thing was this 'older ' gentlemen I am = guessing around 75 who with his equally elder wife, was riding this Boss = Hoss V-8, with a yellow paint scheme. I just hope to God, that I can = still do something like that when I am in my seventies....( Hell I am = not sureI would ever want to ride on of those things now)... This was my third Law Ride, and this was the best turnout and best = weather yet. just wish they would have more vendors, etc. I brought a = saddlebag of frozen water bottles which were quickly handed out. Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dawn G.T. Gibson To: DC Cycles Sent: Sunday, May 09, 1999 8:26 PM Subject: Law Ride 99 > Did anyone else make it to the Law Ride today? I had to get up pretty > early this morning to scrape all of the Southern Maryland bugs off of = the > Virago from my trip down to the tip of Southern Maryland on Saturday. > There's a park there at the tip called Point Lookout. It's a really = nice > ride down there and some good seafood on the way back. =20 >=20 > The Law Ride today was quite a sight! Several thousand bikes at = least. > Lots of beautiful bikes and odd people to check out at RFK before the = ride. > Real Scots bagpipes at the ceremony. Didn't see any DC Cycles folks = but > you could have lost a whole bike club at this place easily! Came home = with > a heck of a sunburn but it was fun. >=20 > Dawn > Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX > '96 Virago 1100 Special, KnowMad >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 08:39:07 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17404 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:39:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A367151A00F4; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:39:03 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990510075212.012c5c80@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:52:31 -0400 To: Dale Horstman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: USA Today - Executives find wheel love In-Reply-To: <19990507202913.4378.rocketmail@web806.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Like they say, "Cloisonne pins save lives." Chris Norloff At 04:29 PM 5/7/99 , Dale Horstman wrote: >Chris, > >"The protective vest is a very important piece of >safety gear for today's discerning executives. >In the case of a motorcycle accident, the >executives head, neck, and arms can all >be roadrashed completely away, but still leave >the executive able to sit on his/her ass and >contribute the same value to the company as before." > >:) > >Dale, just a little humble worker bee... > >--- Chris Norloff wrote: >> http://www.usatoday.com/money/bcovfri.htm >> >> P.S. What the hell is a "protective vest"? -- >> But Greg Emmerson, president of Corporate Protection Professionals, >> says his company doesn't discourage executives from riding. >> "We typically advise them to wear a protective vest if they ride," >> Emmerson says." > >=== >Dale Horstman (The Horkster) >the_horkster@XXXXXX >Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > >"I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet >sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 08:39:26 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA17414 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A368151A00F4; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:39:04 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990510075444.012c0770@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:55:16 -0400 To: "Ken" , "dc-cycles" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Tomorrows Law Ride In-Reply-To: <001501be9973$d277ade0$8f72d9ce@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" How did the Law Ride go? I was doing garden duty for my Mom. Chris Norloff At 12:57 PM 5/8/99 , Ken wrote: >I will be riding into DC and meeting some friends at 0930 down at seven >corners then heading into DC on Rt 50 around 10am or so to the stadium for >staging. I'll be riding my Sportster, come on up and say Hi. >http://pweb.netcom.com/~shephar1/kensharley1.gif > >Ken S. >ICQ# 32289311 >HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger >HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager >kshephard@XXXXXX >1996 XLH 1200 >Ride Safe >Inwood, WV > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 09:21:37 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18143 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28954 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:21:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:21:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Dirt ride, MD, 5/16 Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm planning on riding the dirt bike next sunday. I know there was some interest from a few of you. I don't have transport for the bike this time so I'm limited to two, pretty close to my house, riding areas. The two choices are Beltsville or Camp Springs - just north of the beltway or just south of the beltway. Fredericksburg is out of the question this time (real non-DOT knobbies). The poop on the two areas: Beltsville - really tight trails, wide open areas (dirt roads), jumping areas, lots of puddles if it rains Camp Springs - medium trails, open trails, jumping areas, "MX" area, some mud if it rains I'll probably start riding about 1:00pm and go for 3 hours or so. If you're interested let me know and give me your preference on where. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 09:49:48 1999 Return-Path: SuazoT@XXXXXX Received: from seg-pdc.seg-inc.com (mail.seg-inc.com [207.96.22.190]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18563 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:49:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.seg-inc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:48:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Suazo, Tony" To: DC Cycles Subject: Harley Shops Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:48:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain My fiance's dad is having problems with his Harley. The guy at the local shop - about the only one in Williamsport, PA - is taking way too much time to fix it. I recall that one of the instructors in my MSF class talking about a shop in Chantilly that does very good work. Anyone familiar with it? Any other suggestions? Thanks. Tony CBR600 F3 PS Except for that mile long patch of gravel, fun ride this past Saturday! From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 09:51:19 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18640 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:50:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id JAA29728 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:43:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990510094459.00aa4240@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:50:44 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: intro Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Morning kids... I'm on a long distance conference call at the moment so I thought it'd be a perfect time to introduce myself. Name's Grant, I've been riding dirtbikes since I was 12 or so and on the street for the past three or so years. I've owned a few bikes, including a 1990 CBR600 that I rode both on the street and raced at Loudon, NH (I'm from MA). My first bike was a 600 Kanatuna, and about a year ago I bought my first new bike, a 97 YZF600... unfortunately I had to go to CA for 6 months for business and had to sell it :(. I'm living in Herndon now, and will be picking up my Suzuki SV650 this Friday... always wanted a twin. Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting out again, and if anyone wants to ride (or at least tell me where the good roads are), please let me know. Cya, grant ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 10:01:10 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA18825 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:00:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: intro Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:00:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Well.. welcome to the forey.. Hope you like guns, reptiles and the occasional political flame war.. :) But we have good sides here too.. like parties.. :) Oh, just thought I'd be the first to mention that part of your initiation.. is loaning out your bike to anyone who asks.. :) I'm first in line (ok, I'll let others go while my wrist heals) Ride safe in the mean time.. Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 10:22:12 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA19182 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA08300 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA24450 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:21:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905101421.KAA24450@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:23:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: intro, and etc. Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) No, no, no, Brian, you must get healthy, so I will take your ride and mine so that Grant can become a fully accepted flamable member like the rest of us. Grant, welcome to the list, I have been part of it for about 6 months now and haven't heard anything about reptiles, little about guns, and ignored the political stuff. :) I am up for a ride about anytime that I am free and so are many of those on this list, we all like to ride so make a date and people will show up. How about a little dirt biking this Sunday? (Kirk Roy, I'm planning on being there, either is fine just post directions.) Great ride Saturday! Thanks for the lead Collin! Look forward to meeting in person. "McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > Well.. welcome to the forey.. Hope you like guns, reptiles and the > occasional political flame war.. :) But we have good sides here too.. > like parties.. :) > > Oh, just thought I'd be the first to mention that part of your > initiation.. is loaning out your bike to anyone who asks.. :) > > I'm first in line (ok, I'll let others go while my wrist heals) > > Ride safe in the mean time.. > > Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 10:23:45 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA19192 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id HAA19300 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 10 May 1999 07:21:35 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 10 May 1999 07:21:35 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: Grant Heffernan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: intro Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:21:30 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Guy, SV-650, huh? - lessee now... that would be the red one?? There's a little known (and seldom enforced) rule with our group - all riders over 50 years of age and 240 lbs get to ride all new motorcycles brought to a group ride. Hey - it was worth a try... We tend to get together on weekends - Saturdays seem to be the most likely day for some reason. There may be two or more sub groups, depending on rider desire/skill/optimism. All in all - it's a pretty loose group - we do have a few peculiarities, though; we tend to dress conservatively (as in anti-roadrash) and have had some "spirited conversations" on line when a rider showed up in full squid-kit (tennies, t-top, shorts & (of course) helmet). This area is blessed with more twisting roads with fewer cars than almost any other place on the east coast near a major metro area. We have put much reasearch into merging the road database with the restaurant database (ya gotta stop sometime). Hope to meet you soon Michael J. '93 GSX 1100G From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 11:01:29 1999 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA19875 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:01:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.119.40.21] by usdotmh.dot.gov with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:57:54 -0400 Received: by rspa-exchange.rspa.dot.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <29F3BHPB>; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:59:49 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Burger, Donald" To: DC Cycles Subject: Cleaning Leathers Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:59:43 -0400 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) I want to get my leathers cleaned but I'm not sure of where I should bring them. Can it be done by any decent dry cleaner or is there something special that needs to be done to keep them from falling apart? Any advice would be appreciated. Including names and locations of cleaners that people have used on their leather gear in the past. Thanks - Don B begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(C(.`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`06``P`.````SP<%``H` M"@`[`"L``0!6`0$@@`,`#@```,\'!0`*``H`.P`P``$`6P$!"8`!`"$````P M-3=%0C,V-T4V,#9$,S$Q.4$W1C`P0S`T1D$R.30P-0`&!P$$@`$`$@```$-L M96%N:6YG($QE871H97)S`'D&`0V`!``"`````@`"``$#D`8`Y`4``"D````+ M``(``0```$``.0`@G7&\]9J^`1X`<``!````$@```$-L96%N:6YG($QE871H M97)S`````@%Q``$````6`````;Z:],&<9[-^!P;F$=.:?P#`3Z*4!0``'@`Q M0`$````(````0E521T521``#`!I``````!X`,$`!````"````$)54D=%4D0` M`P`90``````"`0D0`0```)D!``"5`0``[P$``$Q:1G4ON\PD`P`*`')C<&2!L96%T:`20#00@8Q3! 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M3EE$14-%3E1$4EE#3$5!3D523U))4U1(``````(!?P`!````1````#Q&0CE" M.34T,#@T.$)$,C$Q0C$P.#`P03!#.44Y-3; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA00429 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id D994KDD8; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:49:20 EDT To: dthompso1@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: intro, and etc. Message-ID: <19990510.181103.2087.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <199905101421.KAA24450@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-4,6-41 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:49:20 EDT I'm warning you! One more mention of politics and the iguana gets it! I swear I'll put a bullet in him... JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Mon, 10 May 1999 10:23:28 -0400 "Danny Thompson" writes: >No, no, no, Brian, you must get healthy, so I will take your ride and >mine so that Grant can become a fully accepted flamable member >like the rest of us. > >Grant, welcome to the list, I have been part of it for about 6 months >now and haven't heard anything about reptiles, little about guns, and >ignored the political stuff. :) I am up for a ride about anytime that >I >am free and so are many of those on this list, we all like to ride so >make a date and people will show up. How about a little dirt biking >this Sunday? (Kirk Roy, I'm planning on being there, either is fine >just post directions.) > >Great ride Saturday! Thanks for the lead Collin! > >Look forward to meeting in person. > > >"McCoy, Brian NAB02" >wrote: >> Well.. welcome to the forey.. Hope you like guns, reptiles and the >> occasional political flame war.. :) But we have good sides here >too.. >> like parties.. :) >> >> Oh, just thought I'd be the first to mention that part of your >> initiation.. is loaning out your bike to anyone who asks.. :) >> >> I'm first in line (ok, I'll let others go while my wrist heals) >> >> Ride safe in the mean time.. >> >> Brian McCoy > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 11:56:48 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA20849 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA06333 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07676 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 404 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:56:26 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990510115553.012ea990@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:56:24 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Need Roommate (non-moto) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Looks like Derek will be moving out in June - so I need a roommate soon. If you know anyone that is interested, please pass this along. $350/mo + 1/2 utilities (around $150) Private bath, 12x16 room, large closets, 3 level townhouse in Centreville. Non smoking male or female who likes Iguanas and Yellow Labs. 703-631-9775 or email. No psychotics please. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 12:29:43 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21604 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:29:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA08834 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com ([209.135.198.107]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id MAA29679; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:28:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990510122346.006a3414@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:23:46 -0400 To: Bikes R Us , dthompso1@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: Re: intro, and etc. Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19990510.181103.2087.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: <199905101421.KAA24450@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Better yet, BBQ'd iguana!! At 11:49 AM 5/10/99 EDT, Bikes R Us wrote: >I'm warning you! One more mention of politics and the iguana gets it! I >swear I'll put a bullet in him... > >JohnDavid@Bikes R Us > >On Mon, 10 May 1999 10:23:28 -0400 "Danny Thompson" >writes: >>No, no, no, Brian, you must get healthy, so I will take your ride and >>mine so that Grant can become a fully accepted flamable member >>like the rest of us. >> >>Grant, welcome to the list, I have been part of it for about 6 months >>now and haven't heard anything about reptiles, little about guns, and >>ignored the political stuff. :) I am up for a ride about anytime that >>I >>am free and so are many of those on this list, we all like to ride so >>make a date and people will show up. How about a little dirt biking >>this Sunday? (Kirk Roy, I'm planning on being there, either is fine >>just post directions.) >> >>Great ride Saturday! Thanks for the lead Collin! >> >>Look forward to meeting in person. >> >> >>"McCoy, Brian NAB02" >>wrote: >>> Well.. welcome to the forey.. Hope you like guns, reptiles and the >>> occasional political flame war.. :) But we have good sides here >>too.. >>> like parties.. :) >>> >>> Oh, just thought I'd be the first to mention that part of your >>> initiation.. is loaning out your bike to anyone who asks.. :) >>> >>> I'm first in line (ok, I'll let others go while my wrist heals) >>> >>> Ride safe in the mean time.. >>> >>> Brian McCoy >> >> > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > Lisa Goddard Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 12:32:43 1999 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21695 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:32:42 -0400 (EDT) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX (8036) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2LPUa02301 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2dfed08f.246863ec@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:31:40 EDT Subject: Re: Cleaning Leathers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 Dry cleaning can ruin leather! Don't do it. The only safe answer is to do it yourself, which can be tedious. Saddlesoap and mink oil are your friends. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 12:45:40 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22053 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07201 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09299 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:45:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 401; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:45:32 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990510124454.019796d0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:45:30 -0400 To: Todd Peer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: Need Roommate (non-moto) In-Reply-To: <002401be9b03$4d3998a0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: <4.1.19990510115553.012ea990@mail.wheatintl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I was an admitted reptile lover. I also have a 9mm. Don't most of us? At 12:36 PM 5/10/99 , Todd Peer wrote: > >> Non smoking male or female who likes Iguanas and Yellow Labs. > ^^^^^^^ >There it is! Reptiles! > >> >> >> No psychotics please. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >Matter of opinion. Why do your walls crawl? > >Todd ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 12:53:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22199 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA07356 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:53:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA09507 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FBI007PZZKVQH@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:38:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta02.mcit.com (omzmta02.mcit.com [166.37.194.120]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA23356; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:35:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta02.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990510163854.DAPZ24360@[166.38.156.10]>; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:38:54 +0000 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:36:49 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Need Roommate (non-moto) In-reply-to: <4.1.19990510115553.012ea990@mail.wheatintl.com> To: Mike Troutman , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002401be9b03$4d3998a0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > Non smoking male or female who likes Iguanas and Yellow Labs. ^^^^^^^ There it is! Reptiles! > > > No psychotics please. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Matter of opinion. Why do your walls crawl? Todd From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 13:09:20 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA22571 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:08:21 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:08:18 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:05:13 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: MotorLE@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cleaning Leathers -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline How 'bout Lexol? Works great, not as stinky. Joe >>> - 5/10/99 12:31 PM >>> Dry cleaning can ruin leather! Don't do it. The only safe answer is to do it yourself, which can be tedious. Saddlesoap and mink oil are your friends. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 13:15:53 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22751 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:15:52 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA19416 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA03211; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:16:36 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa02818; Mon, 10 May 99 13:15:59 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBJ007GD1D4NY@XXXXXX>; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:17:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525676D.005EA606 ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:13:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:12:36 -0400 Subject: Re: intro, and etc. To: "Lisa S. Goddard" Cc: Bikes R Us , dthompso1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525676D.005F7E60.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Great. Just great. Now I get to spend the rest of the day with "Mexican Radio" stuck in my mind. Thankyou Lisa (and her BBQ'd Iguana) --chris To: Bikes R Us , dthompso1@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Date: 05/10/99 04:23:46 PM GMT Subject: Re: intro, and etc. Better yet, BBQ'd iguana!! At 11:49 AM 5/10/99 EDT, Bikes R Us wrote: >I'm warning you! One more mention of politics and the iguana gets it! I >swear I'll put a bullet in him... > >JohnDavid@Bikes R Us --snip-- ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 13:22:45 1999 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA22921 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:22:43 -0400 (EDT) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX (4535) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2PVPa24273 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:21:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:21:48 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Cleaning Leathers -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 >How 'bout Lexol? Works great, not as stinky. I don't think mink oil is stinky, but it's true - Lexol is good too. So are many other leather cleaning and conditioning products. Just don't get it dry cleaned. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 13:30:28 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23148 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:30:26 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLLR92; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:30:25 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7J06T; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:30:25 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525676D.00602931 ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:30:20 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525676D.005E8D05.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:28:39 -0400 Subject: Bike Week(s) at Myrtle I went to Myrtle Beach last year for what has been coined "Black Bike Week" which covers May 24-31. The previous week is well,... Bike Week, which is mostly white & harleys. BBW is basically all sport bikes with an emphasis on females & bikinnis. Believe it or not, SC is a no helmet law state & out of 50 - 75,000 bikers, I only saw about (5) helmets being worn. The state police, sheriffs office & all local county police & township cops are out in force. I mean walking down the middle of the street looking for any reason to lock someone up...seriously, I was there. All & all, it was violence free & a really great time. I did see a few white guys in the bunch & they were accepted because they're bikers too. It really shouldn't be called "Black Bike Week", just because it's mostly black, but you know how our society likes labels..... It should be called "Sport Bike Week"! (18) more days & I'll be in SC riding free. Yeah, I know, riding without a helmet is stupid & dangerous, I saw the bloody corpse, but it feels great to ride without the constraints of a helmet. You know, like James Dean ;) DJ 97' YZF1000R aka "Faith" From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 13:39:12 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23328 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:39:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com ([209.135.198.107]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id NAA03175; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990510133312.00698cb4@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:33:12 -0400 To: JOE NAGY , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: Re: Cleaning Leathers -Reply In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" For leather repair and/or cleaning may I recommend Teddy Bear's Exotic Ruffcut Leathers, Motto: If you have a thing for leather, I'll make youa leather thing he's replaced the zipper on my jacket and cleaned it while he had it. pgr: 301 946-3930 At 01:05 PM 5/10/99 -0400, JOE NAGY wrote: >How 'bout Lexol? Works great, not as stinky. > >Joe Lisa Goddard Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 14:01:56 1999 Return-Path: bike.dealer@XXXXXX Received: from m3.boston.juno.com (m3.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.198]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA23837 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:01:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bike.dealer@XXXXXX) by m3.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAAB4K3M; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:01:04 EDT To: MotorLE@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cleaning Leathers -Reply Message-ID: <19990510.210004.5263.0.bike.dealer@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 6-20 From: Bikes R Us Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:01:04 EDT Speaking of drycleaning leather... Did anyone else see the write-up in Motorcycle Consumer News on a machine-washable leather jacket. I'd love to see one in person. Apparently the whole upper portion (shoulders, upper back and upper chest) is constructed of a material that is very reflective at night but looks like regular leather during the day. All that and it is totally machine washable. They washed it a zillion times with no noticeable degradation of suppleness in the leather. JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Mon, 10 May 1999 13:21:48 EDT MotorLE@XXXXXX writes: > >>How 'bout Lexol? Works great, not as stinky. > >I don't think mink oil is stinky, but it's true - Lexol is good too. >So are >many other leather cleaning and conditioning products. Just don't get >it dry >cleaned. > >Colleen ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 14:27:01 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA24313 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:26:00 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:25:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:22:20 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Bike Week(s) at Myrtle -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline My first (and last) impression of Myrtle Beach: "DAMN! We drove past the Outer Banks to come HERE?" Joe Richmond From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 14:38:15 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24596 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:38:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA10939 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA13961 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:37:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905101837.OAA13961@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:39:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: intro, etc X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Gee, now I really feel like I am part of the group, I have participated in all of the important topics.... :) Forcast says perfect riding weather until Friday at least! Yeeeee Hiii! Can anyone say "mental health" day? Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 14:40:54 1999 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24628 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:40:53 -0400 (EDT) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX (8022) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2EOYa02445 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <7a4ed044.246881f2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:39:46 EDT Subject: Re: Re: Cleaning Leathers -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 > Did anyone else see the write-up in >Motorcycle Consumer News on a machine-washable leather jacket. I machine wash leather sometimes. When I learned that that's what they do at Vanson, I decided I could too. Leather does not get damaged by getting wet! Washing a jacket in a home machine is a pain, but here is what I do: first, remove the armor, if there is any. If it is permanently attached, I'm not so sure you should wash your item. Fill up the washing machine with warm water. I throw in a few capfuls of Hein Gericke cleaner/conditioner (and liquid conditioner should work). I swish the item around by hand. I'm afraid to close the lid and let the machine do the work, because once wet the items get very heavy. It seems like it would be easy to break the washing machine, or tear up the lining. The water will turn very black. Some of this is dirt of course, but it is also excess dye (other colors if your leather isn't black). After I get sick of swishing, I let the machine run through spin cycle. Then I fill it up again, this time with no cleaner, swish it around some more, and spin it again. Sometimes I do a second rinse, depending. Don't hand anything on a hanger to dry. It is too heavy when wet and could stretch out of shape. I lay it down on cardboard in the yard, and let it dry naturally. When it is dry, you should condition it, using mink oil, lexol, or whatever conditioner you like. Is all this a big pain? You bet! I only do this when I get inventory in that is really stinky (for those of you who don't know, I have a used leather business). Colleen From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 14:54:22 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24933 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:54:21 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLLSWR; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:54:22 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7KBRR; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:54:23 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525676D.0067D9AE ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:54:19 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: NAGYJ@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525676D.00678C15.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:52:16 -0400 Subject: Re: Bike Week(s) at Myrtle -Reply I can relate, I take my family to the Outer Banks every year. Love that place. DJ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 14:55:19 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24954 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:54:20 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFEB7@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Danny Thompson'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: intro, etc Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:54:20 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Actually on the Weather net 4 homepage it shows sunny weather 70's and 80's till Sunday. "I think I'm coming down with the flu and can't make it in the rest of the week". Glenn > Gee, now I really feel like I am part of the group, I have participated > in all of the important topics.... :) > > Forcast says perfect riding weather until Friday at least! Yeeeee Hiii! > Can anyone say "mental health" day? > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 15:15:15 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25365 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:08:40 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: intro, etc Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:08:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Speaking of which... Anybody in the Sterling (Sterling Blvd & 28) area interested in taking an extended lunch hour sometime this week? Something in the 2 hour range? Not that I have a clue where to go, but thet can be decided later... -Mark '83 V65 Magna -----Original Message----- From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM [mailto:Dysart@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 2:54 PM To: 'Danny Thompson'; 'DC Cycles' Subject: RE: intro, etc Actually on the Weather net 4 homepage it shows sunny weather 70's and 80's till Sunday. "I think I'm coming down with the flu and can't make it in the rest of the week". Glenn > Gee, now I really feel like I am part of the group, I have participated > in all of the important topics.... :) > > Forcast says perfect riding weather until Friday at least! Yeeeee Hiii! > Can anyone say "mental health" day? > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 15:15:42 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25442 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:15:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id PAA20750; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990510151301.00a3aae0@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:14:08 -0400 To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" , "'Danny Thompson'" , "'DC Cycles'" From: Grant Heffernan Subject: RE: intro, etc In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFEB7@dadc040.hqda.pentag on.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So, is anyone going riding this weekend, given all the nice weather? I'm up for a ride on the new machine, though I'll be going pretty slow until things are all broken in. If anyone's interested in taking it easy on some scenic roads lemme know. At 02:54 PM 5/10/99 -0400, Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM wrote: >Actually on the Weather net 4 homepage it shows sunny weather 70's and 80's >till Sunday. "I think I'm coming down with the flu and can't make it in the >rest of the week". > >Glenn > > >> Gee, now I really feel like I am part of the group, I have participated >> in all of the important topics.... :) >> >> Forcast says perfect riding weather until Friday at least! Yeeeee Hiii! >> Can anyone say "mental health" day? >> >> >> ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 15:27:52 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25666 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:27:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com ([209.135.198.107]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id PAA09037 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990510152202.006aabc8@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:22:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: CB 550 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990326073403.017cc1d0@mail.toward.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990325124836.006a54a0@kivex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Attention, my dearly beloved husband has found a Great home for the CB-550 if it is still available. Please let me know. KAWGRL Lisa Goddard Lisa Goddard Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 15:28:44 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25693 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:28:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:27:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: well.. news :( Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:27:44 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Just returned from my Dr. appointment up here.. apparently, the scaphoid (wrist) is so badly broken that the Dr wants me in surgery ASAP.. whee... depending on when that happens, any chance I can get someone to help me out? I'll need a ride to and from the hospital (out patient surgery) which is in Baltimore. I'd ride (really, I would) - but they're going to put me under.. I suspect that'd probably be worse than riding drunk afterwards.. :P I think I can twist Collin's arm into this endevor (seeing as he's almost done wiht work and has bucu vacation time) - but I want to cover all bases.. Thanks. Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 17:02:17 1999 Return-Path: dankenney@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f76.hotmail.com [207.82.250.182]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA27567 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 57038 invoked by uid 0); 10 May 1999 21:01:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990510210142.57037.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.122.204.117 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:01:42 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.122.204.117] From: "DAN KENNEY" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Long Ride Memorial Day Weekend? Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:01:42 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Is anyone planning any long rides over Memorial Day weekend? I have all 4 days off. Maybe down to Deals Gap?. Dan Kenney Red 1997 Suzuki TL1000s _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 17:41:42 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA28271 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:41:30 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id RAA03979; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:39:55 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa03526; Mon, 10 May 99 17:39:16 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBJ004BEDJP0U@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:40:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525676D.0076BAA3 ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:36:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:30:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Long Ride Memorial Day Weekend? To: DAN KENNEY Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525676D.00779631.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I'd be game to go. I'd be willing to take off the 4 days of the weekend plus another day or two if necessary. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 Is anyone planning any long rides over Memorial Day weekend? I have all 4 days off. Maybe down to Deals Gap?. Dan Kenney Red 1997 Suzuki TL1000s ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 18:24:09 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29105 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:24:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA12758 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:24:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA22087 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:24:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id PAA16557 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Mon, 10 May 1999 15:24:02 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Mon, 10 May 1999 15:24:02 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DC-Cycles Subject: Rider's Accessory Warehouse Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 05:29:54 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hey, all - last plug for a good buddy Art is closing down his shop and is selling inventory at fire sale prices. You might want to drop in and check out his remaining stock for bits that you need/want. Art's phoilosopy at this point seems to be that if he sells it, he doesn't have to move it. As a basis for comparison, I got a ME-Z4 160/70-17 for 109 and my kid (Sean) got a pair of Dunlops for $200 for his CBR - I've never seen Art this serious about discounts before ;-) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 18:50:41 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA29675 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:50:40 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (14433) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7RVOa24272; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:49:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <227a6c73.2468bc46@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:48:38 EDT Subject: Re: Harley Shops To: SuazoT@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/10/1999 9:55:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SuazoT@XXXXXX writes: << I recall that one of the instructors in my MSF class talking about a shop in Chantilly that does very good work. Anyone familiar with it? Any other suggestions? Thanks. Tony CBR600 F3 >> My bro-in-laws father owns a Harley shop somewhere around the Manassas area. J.B.'s Custom Cycles. Don't know exactly where it is but, it's in the book. They do pretty good work from what I've seen. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 19:19:36 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA00336 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl50.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.192]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 1151800 ; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:17:33 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles" Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:12:38 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199905100029.UAA08085@mail1.radix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Law Ride 99 Message-Id: <199905102317.1151800@zzapp.org> On Sun, 09 May 1999 20:26:39 -0400, Dawn G.T. Gibson wrote: >Did anyone else make it to the Law Ride today? Yup. >The Law Ride today was quite a sight! I was the one on the old Suzuki GS400. :) It was kind of fun. I rode down with the "Wild Pigs" from the BWI Marriot. I was the only non-harley that I could see at that point, but that is normal for me. Some one has to represent the imports. Besides, I didn't non-harleys stopped by the side of the rode except to help a non-running harley. :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Mon May 10 21:31:28 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA02785 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-49.s49.as1.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.49]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA25186; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001501be9b4e$4e412880$314daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Cc: "Ursulina Viteri" Subject: Cyclebytel Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:33:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I thought you all might be interested in this website I found to day. Its the cyclebytel site (http://www.cyclebytel.com/) It contains new & used bikes for sale by dealers and individuals. You can search by make and by state. Also has stats, insurance etc. See ya Brian N 96 Yamaha FZR600 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 01:38:46 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04382 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:38:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id BAA22485; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:38:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:38:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: "Suazo, Tony" cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Harley Shops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I switched Harley shops when I bought my Ducati. Battley cycles (Rockville Harley-Davidson), which is actually in Gaithersburg (::shrug::) is an excellent shop with whom I've had nothing but good experiences. Devon Battley is an racer, and his shop does top-notch work. I had them do a bunch of performance mods to my Harley which have made it run incredibly well, and they are now doing the same to the Duck. Check them out, www.battley.com - Brian On Mon, 10 May 1999, Suazo, Tony wrote: > My fiance's dad is having problems with his Harley. The guy at the local > shop - about > the only one in Williamsport, PA - is taking way too much time to fix it. I > recall that > one of the instructors in my MSF class talking about a shop in Chantilly > that does > very good work. Anyone familiar with it? Any other suggestions? > > Thanks. > > Tony > CBR600 F3 > > PS > Except for that mile long patch of gravel, fun ride this past Saturday! > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 01:46:29 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04529 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:46:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id BAA22490; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:46:19 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:46:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" cc: "'dc'" Subject: Re: well.. news :( In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Brian - Always willing to lend a hand (so to speak...) If you end up needing a ride, let me know. - Brian Roach On Mon, 10 May 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > Just returned from my Dr. appointment up here.. apparently, the scaphoid > (wrist) is so badly broken that the Dr wants me in surgery ASAP.. whee... > depending on when that happens, any chance I can get someone to help me out? > I'll need a ride to and from the hospital (out patient surgery) which is in > Baltimore. > > I'd ride (really, I would) - but they're going to put me under.. I suspect > that'd probably be worse than riding drunk afterwards.. :P > > I think I can twist Collin's arm into this endevor (seeing as he's almost > done wiht work and has bucu vacation time) - but I want to cover all bases.. > > Thanks. > > Brian > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 01:49:17 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04546 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA15248 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:49:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id BAA22494; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:49:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:49:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: Danny Thompson cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: intro, etc In-Reply-To: <199905101837.OAA13961@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ::cough:: I was REALLY ill today... just couldn't make it in (I was going WAY too fast as I passed the exit that leads to the office) - B On Mon, 10 May 1999, Danny Thompson wrote: > Gee, now I really feel like I am part of the group, I have participated > in all of the important topics.... :) > > Forcast says perfect riding weather until Friday at least! Yeeeee Hiii! > Can anyone say "mental health" day? > > > Danny > '99 VFR > '93 DR 350 > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 01:53:30 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA04625 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id BAA22498; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:53:21 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:53:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: Mark Petty cc: "'DC Cycles'" , gatesg@XXXXXX, devsickle@XXXXXX Subject: RE: intro, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm up for it! I'm about a little less than a mile from you on Waxpool. If you use AIM or AOL, catch me at 'BryanRoach' or roach@XXXXXX, or 265-5954 Anyone else? A lunch outing would be a blast! - B On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mark Petty wrote: > Speaking of which... Anybody in the Sterling (Sterling Blvd & 28) area > interested in taking an extended lunch hour sometime this week? > Something in the 2 hour range? > > Not that I have a clue where to go, but thet can be decided later... > > -Mark > '83 V65 Magna > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM [mailto:Dysart@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 2:54 PM > To: 'Danny Thompson'; 'DC Cycles' > Subject: RE: intro, etc > > > Actually on the Weather net 4 homepage it shows sunny weather 70's and > 80's > till Sunday. "I think I'm coming down with the flu and can't make it in > the > rest of the week". > > Glenn > > > > Gee, now I really feel like I am part of the group, I have > participated > > in all of the important topics.... :) > > > > Forcast says perfect riding weather until Friday at least! Yeeeee > Hiii! > > Can anyone say "mental health" day? > > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 02:08:20 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA05581 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 02:08:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.26]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:53:44 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: , "Suazo, Tony" Cc: "DC Cycles" Subject: RE: Harley Shops Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:56:12 -0400 Message-ID: <00e501be9b72$f9655fa0$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal No offense, but that's a heck of a lot of money to spend on bikes and then they need performance parts??? I must ask a question (a serious one, not being a smart-ass) but on the Ducati, are you riding it just on the street? If so, what sort of performance parts are you finding that you need/notice on the street? Or is it just for pose value? (Nothing at all wrong with that, BTW. Everybody likes bikes for some reason or another. Posing is fine by me. Wouldn't be a Daytona or Myrtle Beach Bike Week without posing. Heck, even Americade has more than its fair share of pose value:) (I won't ask about the HD. Their staggeringly poor stock performance levels are legendary) Glad you've had luck at Battley's. I'm just glad there are some other Triumph dealers out there (would LOVE a Speed Triple one of these days). ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > I switched Harley shops when I bought my Ducati. Battley cycles (Rockville > Harley-Davidson), which is actually in Gaithersburg (::shrug::) is an > excellent shop with whom I've had nothing but good experiences. Devon > Battley is an racer, and his shop does top-notch work. I had them do a > bunch of performance mods to my Harley which have made it run incredibly > well, and they are now doing the same to the Duck. > > Check them out, www.battley.com > > - Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 03:22:27 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA06905 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 03:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id DAA22561; Tue, 11 May 1999 03:22:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 03:22:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: George Howell cc: roach@XXXXXX, DC Cycles Subject: RE: Harley Shops In-Reply-To: <00e501be9b72$f9655fa0$1780e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII George - The Harley: Grew up with them (Grandfather, Grandmother, Father, Mother all rode Harleys) / around them / on them ... yup, paying a premium for 30 year old technology... and loving it. However, It wasn't until after 10 years of riding that I could actually afford to own one. This falls under the "sentimental" catagory of spending money. ::shrug:: Can't possibly justify or explain it, but I can't think of another bike I'd like to ride up to Ocean City, touch the water, turn west and ride until I run out of dry land again. I'm planning to do just that later this year. And yeah, the thing just SUCKED when I rode it out of the dealer. The carb is tuned WAY too lean (to the point that you're actually afraid to corner because it might just spit at you as you roll the throttle at the apex) and the stock exhaust adds to the problem by allowing about a breath's worth of air to escape at any give time. I'm wondering what the motor company is going to do with itself once the fad of owning a Harley wears off, or if the various US start-ups (Indian, Victory, etc) actually start selling some bikes that aren't over-priced and under-engineered. Some long-time Harley owning families might start to defect. The Duck: Been on 600cc and 700cc Japanese bikes for a while, got into the twin thing, and there you have it. Looked at the SuperHawk, the Suzuki TL, and the Ducati. I fell in love with the Duck the moment I saw it, so if that's being a poseur, then label me one :) Although I did do my homework and every review I read pointed toward the Duck. Performance wise, Just like many other bikes you buy right now, out of the crate it's running pretty well, but the dry clutch actually makes more noise than the exhaust. I'm not one of the "If your neighbors don't complain about your bike it's too quiet" types, but I really do enjoy the sound of a motor. After breaking in the engine, I decided to let them change out the exhaust. After that I may modify the air intake system and the injectors depending on how the bike is running - if it doesn't need modification after the exhaust, then I don't need it. One of the reasons I'll recommend Battley is the fact that they agree with me on that - they aren't trying to make a few bucks by cutting into the airbox and screwing with the injectors if the bike is performing well without it. I'm also putting a steering dampner on it as I've noticed that the extreme torque the motor puts out can be a little uplifting when rolling the throttle out of a turn. As for the cash qusetion, The 900ss Ducati is not much more expensive than a comparable 900 - 1000cc Japanese bike (only about 10 - 15%)... did I mention I fell in love with it at first sight? While both of these mods are essentially bolt-ons, I'm letting them do it as I have about half the free time I want these days due to job constraints, and after the work they did on the Harley I have no problem paying for quality work. As for the street question, I used to go up to summit years ago on my '86 Interceptor 700 and put in some seat time. I'm thinking about getting back into racing, and am going up to Keith Code's school on the 27th at pocono to see if it's something that the "mortality gene" I seem to have aquired over the last few years will let me do ;) If the brain allows, I'm planning on buying a 125cc GP bike to race. BTW - after the YZF was stolen and I was looking at replacements, I narrowed it down to two bikes: The Duck and the Triumph 955i (Daytona). I decided the Duck was the one for me, but I agree that the triple is also an awesome ride! - Brian On Tue, 11 May 1999, George Howell wrote: > No offense, but that's a heck of a lot of money to spend on bikes and then > they need performance parts??? I must ask a question (a serious one, not > being a smart-ass) but on the Ducati, are you riding it just on the street? > If so, what sort of performance parts are you finding that you need/notice > on the street? Or is it just for pose value? (Nothing at all wrong with > that, BTW. Everybody likes bikes for some reason or another. Posing is fine > by me. Wouldn't be a Daytona or Myrtle Beach Bike Week without posing. Heck, > even Americade has more than its fair share of pose value:) (I won't ask > about the HD. Their staggeringly poor stock performance levels are > legendary) > > Glad you've had luck at Battley's. I'm just glad there are some other > Triumph dealers out there (would LOVE a Speed Triple one of these days). > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 07:42:21 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA11395 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA21424 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:42:17 -0400 (EDT) From: ewhinger1@XXXXXX Received: from m20.boston.juno.com (m20.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.190]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA04570 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:42:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ewhinger1@XXXXXX) by m20.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAB8RVCE; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:41:16 EDT To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Cc: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:33:08 EDT Subject: Re: Need Roommate (non-moto) Message-ID: <19990511.074021.236.0.ewhinger1@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,4-13 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So, you're looking for a guy that doesn't smoke, or a woman that is into animals? On Mon, 10 May 1999 12:36:49 -0400 Todd Peer writes: > >> Non smoking male or female who likes Iguanas and Yellow Labs. > ^^^^^^^ >There it is! Reptiles! Emmett W. Hinger Centreville VA. COG AMA ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 09:20:25 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12933 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:20:21 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLLVJV; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:20:23 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7KJA8; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:20:23 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525676E.0049442B ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:20:15 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525676E.0047B6C5.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:18:30 -0400 Subject: Lane Splitting...sort of I coming into work this morning & I've devised a way to lane split without lane splitting. In order to get the most out of your commute, you need to be able to keep moving, that's why we ride & put our lives at risk during rush hour, to keep moving. Now, most of us ride to the far left of right of the lane for better visibility, for us & them, & also to avoid the oil & other fluids that are dripped in the middle lane from the cages. Okay, here's my technique. Let me state first, that this is just as dangerous as lane splitting in California, so be alert! This will only work if traffic is moving. If traffic is at a complete standstill, then your SOL. What you do is look for cracks in the flow of traffic & shoot the gaps staying as close to the edge of the lane as possible. Use your signals each time you shoot the gap, this will help get the cagers attention. What you will find is that you will develope a rhythm because most cagers leave a 11/2 to 2 car space between them & the car they're following. Most are paranoid about rear-ending the car ahead, so this gives you an advantage. Beware of the motorcycle haters for they will try to keep you out of their lane. That's it...now I await the flames ;) DJ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 09:24:03 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12951 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22688 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:24:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06340 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:23:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id JAA17401 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:23:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE9B8F.F798AFC0@XXXXXX>; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:23:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'Choat,Dave'" Subject: Germany Trip (Longish) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:23:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all! I returned from Germany yesterday and thought I would give a brief description with some pictures coming in a couple of weeks. First, of course, motorcycling: Although I wasn't able to do any while I was there, I saw many, many, different bikes. Lane splitting appears to be legal as well as parking where you please. Need to catch a train? Ride your MC up to the rail platform and park it for the day or on the sidewalk. Harleys appeared to have a stronger than I expected presence. Highlights: Suzuki RGV250 that I would LOVE to have, Pristine (understatement) CX500 that I would (also) love to have. I saw a few VFRs and only 1 VFR800 with Gold PC wheels. Everyone and their mother wore full leathers, passenger included. UJMs had a strong showing along with dual purpose bikes in the cities where I visited (Frankfurt, Mainz, Hanover, Koln, Rudesheim, Kassel, and Berlin) (I only saw 1 Honda Hornet and zero SV650s). Security didn't seem to be on the minds of most MCers as I witnessed only one bike with a disc lock and a couple here and there bikes with some other kind of security. On the Autobahn (in a rented cage), I only saw about 3 bikes (BMW) and saw only a couple of "stupid" cage drivers do stupid things, one in front of a VERY fast Porsche. Gas was 1.53/liter (marks) or $3.23 (dollars) per gallon for the lowest grade. Scooters were also extremely popular as are bicycles and from what you can see, 2 wheeled forms of transportation in general. I was actually surprised to see how many big bore bikes I saw given the expensive price of gasoline. ZX11s, XXs, etc. Unfortunately, I never really got to see what some of their back roads were like since my SO and I were on a mission as tourists. The Heine Gerike and Polo MC shop were stocked better than Coleman's. They had a wider variety of things to choose from, but lacked a summer one piece Cordura type suit that I was looking for. They did have a winter version that had full armor. I ended up only buying a Polo rain suit from the Polo shop and an Abus Ulock from the Heine Gerike shop. I think that covers most MC things, the weather was perfect and we felt spoiled staying in the Mainz Hyatt and Berlin Hyatt since my SO works for the Bethesda Hyatt and gets free night stays. (Cool for us!!) :-) Pictures will be in a few weeks for those who are interested. John 98VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 09:31:09 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13126 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:30:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'Donald.Burger@XXXXXX'" Subject: Cleaning Leathers Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:30:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Burger asked, "I want to get my leathers cleaned but I'm not sure of where I should bring them. Can it be done by any decent dry cleaner or is there something special that needs to be done to keep them from falling apart? Any advice would be appreciated. Including names and locations of cleaners that people have used on their leather gear in the past." Long ago (B.S. Before 'Stich) I contacted Schott about cleaning my leather jacket and a list of recommended cleaners. They replied, "Do not send it to a dry cleaner. We recommend no dry cleaners. Use saddle soap on dirty areas and keep it well oiled." Since then, I've kept my 15 year old sun-faded jacket well oiled with Lexol and similar leather products. 'Course, that was a jacket, not a full set that fits closer to the body. MCN ran an article about two years ago on helmet cleaners and tried some on some funky leathers with good results. Maybe the best advice is to contact: 1) Your leathers manufacturer, 2) Colleen (who surely has much experience with refurbishing used leathers), or 3) another leathers manufacturer, such as Vanson. In any case, keeping leather oiled is vital to keeping it from tearing. It doesn't need to be oiled to the point of softness (bad for good sliding) but you must keep it from drying out. Carl in Bethesda. Whoops, coffee's gone, back to wurk. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 09:37:03 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13221 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:37:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA23061 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA06614 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:36:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id JAA22965 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE9B91.CA4AB750@XXXXXX>; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:36:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Valve and Chain Tensioner Adjustment Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:36:47 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My brother just purchased an 80cc Yamaha 4 wheeler for my nephew and wanted to know how difficult it is or isn't to adjust the valve clearance and the chain tensioner. Anyone have a clue? (Specifics appreciated) John 98VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 09:41:25 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13234 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:41:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgota12055 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:41:04 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525676E.004B7ACB ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:44:26 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525676E.004B7AA2.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:33:29 -0400 Subject: Early, but...Weekend Rides (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Looks like Tom & I will actually be home this weekend with no plans!!! YAY!! Has anyone started discussing weekend rides yet? We'd love to jump on the bandwagon... - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 09:54:41 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13486 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:54:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22177 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:54:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Valve and Chain Tensioner Adjustment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 May 1999, Carver, John wrote: > My brother just purchased an 80cc Yamaha 4 wheeler for my nephew and > wanted to know how difficult it is or isn't to adjust the valve > clearance and the chain tensioner. Anyone have a clue? (Specifics > appreciated) Wow, a four stroke 80cc 4 wheeler... That thing must weigh a ton. I hope it never falls on the kid! He might as well buy the manual since he'll need that for clearances and such anyway. It should be pretty easy, although all the parts will be pretty tiny. When I was a kid I took the top end apart on my XR75. It was for no good reason, just curiosity. I got it back together and it ran fine. So, it can't be hard! :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 09:58:20 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13563 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.01) id A774115E0234; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:58:12 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990511094825.012ad840@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:52:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Lane Splitting...sort of In-Reply-To: <8525676E.0047B6C5.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:18 AM 5/11/99 , djones@XXXXXX wrote: > look for >cracks in the flow of traffic & shoot the gaps staying as close to the edge >of the lane as possible. Use your signals each time you shoot the gap, this >will help get the cagers attention. What you will find is that you will >develope a rhythm because most cagers leave a 11/2 to 2 car space between >them & the car they're following. This is a good technique for moving up a few car-lengths, particularly to get away from a tailgater or a rat-pack of drivers. But to do much more than that I think exposes you too much because you have to check over your shoulder to move over, but you must carefully watch the traffic ahead of you for any sudden stops or weaving drivers (like cellphone users). Also, I suspect splitting like this would attract a lot of attention from law enforcement types because it would appear to be weaving and speeding. Personally, I think the advantages are not worth the disadvantages. >eware of the motorcycle haters >for they will try to keep you out of their lane. Actually, the way you presented it, you're never IN a lane with a car. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 10:08:54 1999 Return-Path: berman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13781 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03243 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:08:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:08:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: Fork Seals Advice Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The fork seals on my '82 GS650GL or going (at least one of them). How much time should I estimate to replace them if I do it myself? Is this a very difficult job to do by myself, and do I need special tools? Any suggestions on making it easier? Does anyone have an idea of what a shop would charge. It it's cheap, I may just let them do it. Thanks, -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 10:11:04 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA13830 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FBK00L5ZMYL6U@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:01:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta02.mcit.com (omzmta02.mcit.com [166.37.194.120]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA11036; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:01:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta02.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990511140132.HTWC24360@[166.38.156.10]>; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:01:32 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:59:17 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Lane Splitting...sort of In-reply-to: <8525676E.0047B6C5.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000101be9bb6$75849950$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal DJ Wrote: > Okay, here's my technique.... > This will only work if traffic is moving. If > traffic is at a complete standstill, then your SOL. What you do > is look for > cracks in the flow of traffic & shoot the gaps staying as close > to the edge > of the lane as possible. Use your signals each time you shoot the > gap, this > will help get the cagers attention. What you will find is that you will > develope a rhythm because most cagers leave a 11/2 to 2 car space between > them & the car they're following. I use this method. More than half of the motorcycles I see in the summer use this method. Almost all of them in the winter ;) The only thing I'd add is to not do this at higher speeds when the traffic is thick (you're already moving fast enough to risk small gains). > Most are paranoid about rear-ending the > car ahead, so this gives you an advantage. This I disagree with. Don't ever assume anything about another driver, except that he/she is out to kill you ;) Think this way, and you will be more cautious. Besides, evidently the drivers around here are out to kill...something....crazy bastards. I nearly got hit twice yesterday, by an inattentive driver in a parking lot, and one who was trying to nudge me from my lane. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 10:23:42 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14091 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA23635 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA07955 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [209.48.224.40]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA27366 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:23:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Dawn Gibson To: DC Cycles Subject: Wednesday ride? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone up for a nice easy wednesday ride? I'm going to play hookey from this boring class for a day and wander up 55 to front royal but I'm open to another route and would love to have company. I don't scrape pegs though. Drop me an email if you're interested. Dawn *====================================================================* from the mist and shadows, like a memory of things to come.... to wander the paths of moonlight on water, in search of honesty, empathy, beaches at sunrise, mountains under stars and eyes to laugh back at mine... *====================================================================* Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX *====================================================================* From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 10:25:43 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14124 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:25:32 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA27788; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:26:24 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa27131; Tue, 11 May 99 10:25:30 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBK00DEYO51O9@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525676E.004F07F9 ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:23:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:17:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Fork Seals Advice To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525676E.004FF11A.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I'm pretty sure the latest issue of "Bike" magazine has a how-to section in it on replacing fork seals. Check Borders or other large bookstores for this british magazine. If you can't find it, I can probably fax a copy to you. Chris Weaver The fork seals on my '82 GS650GL or going (at least one of them). How much time should I estimate to replace them if I do it myself? Is this a very difficult job to do by myself, and do I need special tools? Any suggestions on making it easier? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 10:31:34 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14304 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 391; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:29 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990511102558.01e01620@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:28 -0400 To: Todd Peer , djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: Lane Splitting...sort of In-Reply-To: <000101be9bb6$75849950$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: <8525676E.0047B6C5.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:59 AM 5/11/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >I use this method. More than half of the motorcycles I see in the summer >use this method. Almost all of them in the winter ;) I thought that was how we were expected to ride =P I always use the crack to break up rolling butt-plugs. And escape danger. >This I disagree with. Don't ever assume anything about another driver, >except that he/she is out to kill you ;) Think this way, and you will be >more cautious. Besides, evidently the drivers around here are out to >kill...something....crazy bastards. I nearly got hit twice yesterday, by an >inattentive driver in a parking lot, and one who was trying to nudge me from >my lane. It is amazing. I have never had what I would deem a 'close call' while riding, but I have had 3 or 4 in parking lots. What the Hell is with all of these tailgaters? I had a semi roll up on me the other day at a stop light, and stop about 2 feet from my rear tire. I thought about moving up between cars, but I believe he was just screwing with me. It wasn't retalitory - as far as I know.... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 10:53:10 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14664 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:53:08 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA29173; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:54:09 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma028815; Tue, 11 May 99 10:53:51 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBK00J61PGAWN@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:55:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525676E.00519FBF ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:51:33 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:45:25 -0400 Subject: Re: Wednesday ride? To: Dawn Gibson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525676E.005289D4.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Early on 55 is a fantastic high speed right-left combo that's worth the whole ride there. When you see the road split into 2 lanes each way (there'll be a "keep right" sign), wick it up. Depending on your bike, you can take those turns at 80-100+ at a very severe lean angle. :^) Be wary of deer though. Or if you'd rather, there's a turnoff to the left just after the first of these turns that has some great turns in it. You'll have fun - I ride that stretch of 55 after work a lot. After a while, 55 becomes less fun because it straightens out a fair amount and even joins I-66 for a bit. If you're taking the whole day off though, you might as well hit Skyline Drive while you're around Front Royal. Fantastic turns there, and since it's midweek you probably won't have to sit behind too many tourists. I might be game to join you. I think I'm going to take the day off tomorrow too. Have fun! Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 Anyone up for a nice easy wednesday ride? I'm going to play hookey from this boring class for a day and wander up 55 to front royal but I'm open to another route and would love to have company. I don't scrape pegs though. Drop me an email if you're interested. Dawn ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 10:56:28 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14677 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:56:27 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLLWMD; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:56:29 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7KL2Z; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:56:30 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 8525676E.00520EC1 ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:56:17 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525676E.0051AF33.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:54:25 -0400 Subject: Deals Gap How about a trip to Deals Gap in July, Aug, or Sep? We really need to go before the end of the millenium just in case there is no Deals Gap next year ;) DJ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 11:08:02 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14964 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:06:00 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Wednesday ride? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:05:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Well, as I told Dawn.. I'll be game for a ride tomorrow as well.. I CANNOT ride hard (broken wrist and all) - But I can ride.. I have a 9:45 apt. and figure I'll be out of the office by 11am. Unfortunatally it's way up in Laurel.. so I'm about as far away from 55 as you can get.. but if someone wants to take off around 11~noon and go ride.. I'm free. Let me know today by 3pm.. or call anytime - 301.445.4451 Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 11:11:54 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA14977 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:11:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:10:06 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFF03@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX'" , Dawn Gibson , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Wednesday ride? Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:10:04 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) And here I thought I was the only one to do 100+ through that area. ;-) If we are talking about the same place its where I-66 crosses VA 55 and there is a road on the left (as you are headed west) named Georgetown Road or something. Forget Skyline though, take (forgot route number) the road that passes through Elizabeth Furnace to Luray. Skyline's 35 limit is just too slow. Glenn Early on 55 is a fantastic high speed right-left combo that's worth the whole ride there. When you see the road split into 2 lanes each way (there'll be a "keep right" sign), wick it up. Depending on your bike, you can take those turns at 80-100+ at a very severe lean angle. :^) Be wary of deer though. Or if you'd rather, there's a turnoff to the left just after the first of these turns that has some great turns in it. You'll have fun - I ride that stretch of 55 after work a lot. After a while, 55 becomes less fun because it straightens out a fair amount and even joins I-66 for a bit. If you're taking the whole day off though, you might as well hit Skyline Drive while you're around Front Royal. Fantastic turns there, and since it's midweek you probably won't have to sit behind too many tourists. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 11:21:13 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15201 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:21:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id LAA07097 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990511112045.00a51440@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:21:42 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: deals gap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok, I've heard all this talk of Deals Gap, and it sounds cool, so at the risk of sounding like a tool, could someone fill me in on where it is/how to get there? TIA ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 11:47:09 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15779 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:47:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA24554 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:46:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:46:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: deals gap In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990511112045.00a51440@fedsco.sco.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 May 1999, Grant Heffernan wrote: > Ok, I've heard all this talk of Deals Gap, and it sounds cool, so at the > risk of sounding like a tool, could someone fill me in on where it is/how > to get there? Take Rt 129 south of Knoxville, TN. To get to Knoxville take I-66w, I-81s, I-40w (or is it I-40s). That's, of course, not the fun way to get there. It's about an 8 hour drive if you go that way. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 11:57:08 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15954 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FBK003DLRM0HA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:42:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta02.mcit.com (omzmta02.mcit.com [166.37.194.120]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA07749; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:41:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta02.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990511154159.IRVY24360@[166.38.156.10]>; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:41:59 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:39:44 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Fork Seals Advice In-reply-to: To: Morris Berman , DC Cycles Message-id: <000201be9bc4$7de641d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Morris Berman wrote: > The fork seals on my '82 GS650GL or going (at least one of them). How > much time should I estimate to replace them if I do it myself? Is this a > very difficult job to do by myself, and do I need special tools? > Any suggestions on making it easier? > > Does anyone have an idea of what a shop would charge. It it's cheap, I > may just let them do it. Last I checked, it's around $40-$50 to replace the seals, if you bring the forks in. You also need to buy the seals ($$ varies, but proly not more than $30 for two). Doing it yourself is YMMV. If you've never done it, allow for a learning curve. You will need a seal driver. You can make your own out of an appropriate diameter PVC tubing. You'll also likely need the assistance of a vice. Good luck. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 12:36:15 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16675 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:36:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FBK00EDIS8BY9@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:55:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta02.mcit.com (omzmta02.mcit.com [166.37.194.120]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA01109; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:56:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta02.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990511155518.IVCN24360@[166.38.156.10]>; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:55:18 +0000 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:53:03 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: deals gap In-reply-to: <4.1.19990511112045.00a51440@fedsco.sco.com> To: Grant Heffernan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000301be9bc6$5a179f40$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal It is a highly over-rated 11 mile stretch of roadway (rt 129) on the border of NC and TN that cuts through the Tallassee mountain(s), Cold Spring Knob and Sheep Wallow Knop (calm down Glenn), otherwise known as Deal's Gap. Aside from its notoriety as one of the funnest roads on the east coast (it is when it isn't crowded with cars or a parade of Harleys ;), it is generally well paved, double-yellow, and there are no surprise entries onto the road. If you're not careful, there may be a surprise exit though. There are many roads like 129 in TN all over the Appalachian Mountains stretching up into VA, and WVA and into MD. Thanks to the AMA and other publications thoug, Deals Gap has gotten way to much publicity. Bikes from all over, and all styles including some of the more squidly squids who trailor there race bikes in to run it (easy to get away with since cops only have two ways in and out, and only TN seems to care!) Easiest way to get there is I81 all the way until it becomes I40 west. Turn on 129 heading south out of Knoxville. The most fun way......well that's a lot of writing. Todd > > Ok, I've heard all this talk of Deals Gap, and it sounds cool, so at the > risk of sounding like a tool, could someone fill me in on where it is/how > to get there? > TIA > > > ********************************* > Grant M. Heffernan From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 12:41:26 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA16706 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:41:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:40:12 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFF08@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: deals gap Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:40:03 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Of course I've never been to Deals Gap but others that have say that some of our roads in VA are just as good. I've been on VA 16 with Kirk and others from the list and I tell you its awesome. That whole south west area of VA and southeast WV has great roads if you don't want to go all the way to TN and NC. And its only a 4 -5 hour drive via slabbing. Glenn On Tue, 11 May 1999, Grant Heffernan wrote: > Ok, I've heard all this talk of Deals Gap, and it sounds cool, so at the > risk of sounding like a tool, could someone fill me in on where it is/how > to get there? >Take Rt 129 south of Knoxville, TN. To get to Knoxville take I-66w, I-81s, >I-40w (or is it I-40s). That's, of course, not the fun way to get there. >It's about an 8 hour drive if you go that way. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 13:01:36 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17156 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A25199010E; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:01:05 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990511130119.01517e80@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:02:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Senator tailgates, wrecks, gets off Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Fairfax Voids Traffic Ticket for Sen. Byrd in Accident http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-05/11/033l-051199-idx.html By Tom Jackman Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, May 11, 1999; Page B01=20 The gentleman from West Virginia was driving home last week when he failed to yield to the gentleman from Fairfax. The result? A fender bender of constitutional significance. U.S. Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.), driving a rented Cadillac, rear-ended a Ford van in the accident on Route 50 in Fairfax County on Friday afternoon and was ticketed for following too closely. But police tore up the ticket because of a little-known article of the U.S. Constitution that gives members of Congress immunity from arrest when Congress is in session, except in cases of "treason, felony and breach of the peace."=20 Both Byrd spokeswoman Ann Adler and Fairfax County police spokesman Warren Carmichael said it was a Fairfax police commander -- not the senator -- who first brought up the issue of congressional immunity. "He was aware of that," Adler said of Byrd, "but he felt that whatever he needed to do to abide by the law, he was going to do."=20 Fairfax Commonwealth's Attorney Robert F. Horan Jr. gave a different account, saying that Byrd, a noted constitutional scholar, had a copy of the Constitution with him and showed the clause to the police officer who was called to the accident scene. Adler said it is possible that Byrd was carrying a copy of the Constitution. "He almost always has one in his pocket," she said. Police said Byrd, 81, and his wife, Erma, were driving west on Route 50 in the Fair Oaks area, heading for a weekend Mother's Day event in Taylor County, W.Va. Also heading west on Route 50 was Chris Lee, 42, a house painter from Fairfax, in his Ford Econoline van. As traffic piled up just past West Ox Road, Lee was forced to stop in the left lane. Police said the Cadillac driven by Byrd plowed into the back of Lee's van, causing $700 in damage to the van and $7,000 in damage to the Cadillac. Byrd does not contest the police version of events, Adler said. Lee said the senator, whom he did not recognize, got out and asked him, "Why did you stop?" Lee said he explained to Byrd that traffic had stopped in front of him. Then Byrd returned to his car and spoke with his wife as they waited for police. A tow truck was needed to pry the vehicles apart. Police took Byrd and his wife to the nearby Fair Oaks police station, where he chatted amiably with police commanders until an aide arrived to pick him up, Carmichael said. Meanwhile, police officials were calling Horan to see how they should treat the accident. Horan said he was familiar with the immunity clause -- Article 1, Section 6, of the Constitution -- because he had encountered it once before during his 32 years in office. He said that case involved another member of Congress from West Virginia, who escaped a speeding ticket 20 years ago. Experts in constitutional law said the provision was written in 1781 to protect members of Congress from harassment as they traveled across the country, and to discourage people from trying to prevent the members from casting unpopular votes. Paul Rothstein, a Georgetown University law professor, said Fairfax authorities should have let the ticket stand. Misdemeanor traffic violations should be considered a "breach of the peace" when interpreting the language of that section of the Constitution, Rothstein said. "It's a common misconception that it prevents ticketing," he said. "Police departments in this area are frequently under that misapprehension. I think it's a way to do a favor for people of influence and stature, but it does smack of unequal treatment under the law." Rothstein said he knew of about three or four such cases in the last 10 years. Lee said he was less concerned with constitutional matters than with getting his van fixed. Police said Byrd still has civil liability for the accident, even though he wasn't ticketed. And the damage to the van may not be the only issue. "I have a little bit of pain in my back," Lee said. =A9 Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 13:06:17 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17259 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:06:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26266 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:06:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:06:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: deals gap In-Reply-To: <000301be9bc6$5a179f40$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 May 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > It is a highly over-rated 11 mile stretch of roadway I will have to agree with Todd on this one. The road itself is nice but the hoopla over it has been excessive. Another complaint, it's too short! Morons, er, I mean people, will trailer their bikes from FL and other faraway locales and just ride Deals Gap. Again, it's just an 11 mile stretch of road. It attracts the biggest morons/squids. Last year I came up on a group that was using both lanes! In spite of their maximally squidly riding style I caught them on my little HawkGT with full camping gear (tent, sleeping bag, etc) and luggage at an 8/10ths pace. This is not to point out how fast I am (I've been shown the error in thinking on that one more than once) but to show how truly bad some of the riders going there are. In spite of dangerous methods (using both lanes) they were still slow. That's one of the squidly type riders that the heavily "advertised" Deals Gap attracts. Others are truly fast, too fast for public roads. Normal riders should only go to Deals Gap on weekdays. Squids should only go on the weekends. I'm sure there are some of each on dc-cycles... :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 13:15:23 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17467 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:15:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id NAA21104; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:15:19 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA19596; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:15:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:15:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Fork Seals Advice In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I haven't read it yet but I believe the latest issue of Sport Rider has an article on changing fork seal. You might want to check it out. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 11 May 1999, Morris Berman wrote: > The fork seals on my '82 GS650GL or going (at least one of them). How > much time should I estimate to replace them if I do it myself? Is this a > very difficult job to do by myself, and do I need special tools? > Any suggestions on making it easier? > > Does anyone have an idea of what a shop would charge. It it's cheap, I > may just let them do it. > > Thanks, > > -Mb > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX > '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. > > Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to > cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 13:16:34 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17488 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:16:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A5EF650106; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:16:31 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990511131145.0151c8d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:12:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Deals Gap In-Reply-To: <8525676E.0051AF33.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:54 AM 5/11/99 , djones@XXXXXX wrote: >How about a trip to Deals Gap in July, Aug, or Sep? We really need to go >before the end of the millenium just in case there is no Deals Gap next >year ;) >DJ What?! Deal's Gap isn't Y2K compatible? Say it ain't so! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 13:16:42 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17497 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:16:25 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: deals gap Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:16:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Normal riders should only go to Deals Gap on weekdays. Squids > should only > go on the weekends. I'm sure there are some of each on dc-cycles... :) > > Kirk Kirk.. I'm proud of you.. finally admiting to the squid that you are.. oh yea.. ----> :) Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 13:24:46 1999 Return-Path: tansey@XXXXXX Received: from links.magenta.com (tansey@XXXXXX [151.199.66.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17606 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by links.magenta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA27403 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:21:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Tansey To: DC Cycles Subject: For the women on the list... In-Reply-To: <8525676E.004B7AA2.00@172.16.2.37> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII So I'm finally getting a bike, this week in fact. This means I need gear (helmet, jacket and gloves). I've been to a few shops in Herndon and Falls Church and notice that places tend to be 1) unhelpful, and 2) lack a real selection in sizes. Now, I'm a ladies' 12, so I'm not tiny, but most of the jackets and gloves seem to be geared toward larger guys, so I can't find a reasonable fit. Are there any suggestions from the list for places that have a good selection in the store? Specifically, I'm looking for something with some armour, and plenty of vents since I'll ride mostly in spring/summer. Inexpensive is nice, but not often found with this hobby. I'm willing to pay for a good fitting jacket. I'm new to riding... this will be my first bike, haven't ridden beyond dirtbiking as a teen. Any info/experiences are helpful. I'd prefer shopping in stores vs. ordering because I'd like to be riding next week. :) What can I say, I've been waiting since last August (when I took the MSF course) to get on a bike. Thanks, Shannon Oh, btw, the bike is a 1993 Virago 535, black, lots of chrome and LOUD. :) From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 13:33:11 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17819 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A9D3D4010C; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:33:07 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990511133342.01525f10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:34:09 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Rear-ended biker at fault Cc: chris Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://www.napanews.com/nv/home.nsf/NewsBriefing/8E7F309A10BB7AC48825676E000 022FF Road rage ... and a van versus a motorcycle. The van won. What a surprise. Chris Norloff from the article-- Motorcyclist Hurt Paul Morton may have hit his brakes one too many times. Morton, 45, of Yountville was taken to Queen of the Valley Hospital Saturday morning, suffering from a broken ankle, cuts and bruises, according to the California Highway Patrol. He was treated and released, a hospital spokeswoman said this morning. Morton was southbound on Highway 29, north of Imola Avenue, on his 1994 Honda motorcycle, when a Dodge van, driven by Leonard Metz, 71, of Napa attempted to pass him, CHP Officer Warren Bullis said. The cyclist sped up and the van moved behind the motorcycle, Bullis said, adding Metz allegedly flashed his middle finger at Morton. "Morton hit his brakes twice, and on the second time, the van crashed into the back of bike, knocking the driver off his motorcycle," Bullis said. The CHP listed the cause of the accident as unnecessary braking on the part of the motorcycle driver, Bullis said. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 13:43:26 1999 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18016 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:43:24 -0400 (EDT) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX (3956) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id mZMRa27693; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <92478fb4.2469c5b3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:41:07 EDT Subject: Re: For the women on the list... To: tansey@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 Shannon asked: >Are there any suggestions from the list for places that have a good >selection in the store? In Philadelphia there is a store which specializes in women's riding gear. I know that isn't exactly in the DC area, but good luck finding a decent selection of women's sizes any place closer. Caroline is the owner and you can call her at 215/509-7713. She is also working on a website, you can look that up at http://www.herbtrlthr.com/ If you call her, please tell her where you got the number. You could of course shop my page, but most of it is men's stuff. http://www.leatherexchange.com Colleen From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 14:15:08 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18704 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:15:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:23:38 UT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:14 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: RE: deals gap Message-ID: <19990511141516706-f4f80c@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've had some good friends go down there to "slay the dragon" and they love it. They tend to go during the week though to avoid the tourists and the squidly guys. A couple of the guys I know are the ones that run through there WAY TOO FAST for any public road riding. I think one of them was actually close to beating or broke the record through there but it's been a long time since I talked with those guys. -Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: deals gap Author: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Date: 5/11/99 1:06 PM On Tue, 11 May 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > It is a highly over-rated 11 mile stretch of roadway I will have to agree with Todd on this one. The road itself is nice but the hoopla over it has been excessive. Another complaint, it's too short! Morons, er, I mean people, will trailer their bikes from FL and other faraway locales and just ride Deals Gap. Again, it's just an 11 mile stretch of road. It attracts the biggest morons/squids. Last year I came up on a group that was using both lanes! In spite of their maximally squidly riding style I caught them on my little HawkGT with full camping gear (tent, sleeping bag, etc) and luggage at an 8/10ths pace. This is not to point out how fast I am (I've been shown the error in thinking on that one more than once) but to show how truly bad some of the riders going there are. In spite of dangerous methods (using both lanes) they were still slow. That's one of the squidly type riders that the heavily "advertised" Deals Gap attracts. Others are truly fast, too fast for public roads. Normal riders should only go to Deals Gap on weekdays. Squids should only go on the weekends. I'm sure there are some of each on dc-cycles... :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 14:24:03 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18843 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 11 May 1999 17:32:33 UT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:24 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:RE: Wednesday ride? Message-ID: <19990511142416613-fd350f@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I rode through there on the VFR with a friend riding a Shadow ACE following behind. I hit it at I'd have to say 90 or so but forgot that he was following me. When I looked back in the mirror, I saw what I thought was going to be the most horrible accident I had ever seen... the guy went rather wide at about 80 and then wasn't ready to make it on through. I saw his Shadow go right off the rode, grass and straw and such flying everywhere, and his body flying all over the back of the bike (picture a bull rider). After watching this for a moment I began to laugh out loud inside my helmet (after I realized that he was gonna make it) because the whole scene had been really comical to watch. He later said that he had gotten lost in the scenery and when he had gotten into the turn it was too late. In the end it was funny and we had the biggest laugh... guess you had to be there... -Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Early on 55 is a fantastic high speed right-left combo that's worth the whole ride there. When you see the road split into 2 lanes each way (there'll be a "keep right" sign), wick it up. Depending on your bike, you can take those turns at 80-100+ at a very severe lean angle. :^) Be wary of deer though. Or if you'd rather, there's a turnoff to the left just after the first of these turns that has some great turns in it. You'll have fun - I ride that stretch of 55 after work a lot. After a while, 55 becomes less fun because it straightens out a fair amount and even joins I-66 for a bit. If you're taking the whole day off though, you might as well hit Skyline Drive while you're around Front Royal. Fantastic turns there, and since it's midweek you probably won't have to sit behind too many tourists. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 14:29:11 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18974 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:29:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A6D0153010E; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:28:32 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990511142441.0151d060@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:25:37 -0400 To: MotorLE@XXXXXX, tansey@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: For the women on the list... In-Reply-To: <92478fb4.2469c5b3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Shannon asked: > >>Are there any suggestions from the list for places that have a good >>selection in the store? There's http://www.womanbiker.com/ in New Hamster. I don't know anything about them. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 14:54:15 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA19581 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA28548 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:54:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: deals gap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 May 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > Normal riders should only go to Deals Gap on weekdays. Squids > > should only go on the weekends. I'm sure there are some of each on > > dc-cycles... :) > > Kirk.. I'm proud of you.. finally admiting to the squid that you are.. > oh yea.. ----> :) This must be that "creative thinking" they've been teaching in recent years... :) Is it possible to be a squid and have a luggage rack on your bike? You be the judge! ;) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 15:01:38 1999 Return-Path: ewiley@XXXXXX Received: from kamuelle.campus.vt.edu (kamuelle.campus.vt.edu [198.82.109.118]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19755 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:01:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vt.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kamuelle.campus.vt.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA06106 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:07:21 -0400 Sender: ewiley@XXXXXX Message-ID: <37387FE9.A840FE5F@vt.edu> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:07:21 -0400 From: karl X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.6 i686) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: School's FINALLY out.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, i finally get to come home for the summer and ride my bike :) My left arm is fully healed, so no more broken bones. Anyone going riding this weekend? Cheers! Karl From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 15:03:42 1999 Return-Path: dreamer@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19777 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:03:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [209.48.224.40]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA10265 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:03:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:03:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Dawn Gibson To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Wednesday ride? In-Reply-To: <8525676E.005289E8.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, You're more than welcome to join me but I think you missed the part of my message that stated that I don't scrape pegs or take corners at 100mph! I'm no slowpoke but I'm riding to enjoy the scenery not to "go fast". I figure that rush hour should be a thing of the past by 10 or 11am. I'm in Alexandria. What's the best spot to meet? I have no desire to lead unless no one else wants to. Whatever happens this will be very informal. Dawn '96 Virago 1100 Special, KnowMad On Tue, 11 May 1999 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > Early on 55 is a fantastic high speed right-left combo that's worth the > whole ride there. When you see the road split into 2 lanes each way > (there'll be a "keep right" sign), wick it up. Depending on your bike, you > can take those turns at 80-100+ at a very severe lean angle. :^) Be wary of > > I might be game to join you. I think I'm going to take the day off tomorrow > too. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 15:09:56 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19900 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:09:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 401; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:09:49 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990511150807.01358ba0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:09:48 -0400 To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Rear-ended biker at fault In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990511133342.01525f10@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:34 PM 5/11/99 , Chris Norloff wrote: >http://www.napanews.com/nv/home.nsf/NewsBriefing/8E7F309A10BB7AC48825676E000 >022FF > >Road rage ... and a van versus a motorcycle. >The van won. What a surprise. Hard to tell, but it sounds like the biker _was_ at fault, if he sped up to disallow the pass. Although he probably hit his brakes to flash the lights and get the guy from tailgating him.... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 15:11:03 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA19933 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10hHtZ-0004dX-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:08:49 -0400 Received: from david.bdanet.com ([209.70.174.23]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA19658 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01ae01be9be2$b0b7c3e0$17ae46d1@bdanet.com> From: "David Cross" To: Subject: Trade my VFR for a Venture Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:15:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 I really want a '99 Yamaha Venture. Anyone on the list have one? I'd love to ride one or even ride on the back. I could let you ride my 94 VFR in exchange. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 15:17:47 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20118 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:17:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA27971 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:17:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA18958 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:17:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 428; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:17:30 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990511151601.019d08b0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:17:25 -0400 To: karl , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: School's FINALLY out.. In-Reply-To: <37387FE9.A840FE5F@vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I wouldn't mind going on a ride this weekend. Feel a bit more comfy on the vfr now, but still looking for a moderate pace - no Collin groups just yet. May have to work Sat - anyone want to ride Sunday (barring rain) ? Hmmmmmmm? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 15:34:41 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20434 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:34:39 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA06919; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:34:48 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma006350; Tue, 11 May 99 15:33:51 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBL00LXU2ET8D@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525676E.006B4075 ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:31:28 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:25:16 -0400 Subject: Re: Wednesday ride? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525676E.006C2388.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hmm... It sounds like our intended paces seem much different. I misread your original post. I don't think my bike would be happy looking at the scenery, and that sounds like your preference. I don't want to make anyone feel rushed while riding, so I guess I'll just go my own way. Thanks for the idea, though. Perhaps someone else from the group would still like to join up with you for a leisurely ride. Others on the group who might be interested in a more spirited ride would be more than welcome to come along with me. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 Chris, You're more than welcome to join me but I think you missed the part of my message that stated that I don't scrape pegs or take corners at 100mph! I'm no slowpoke but I'm riding to enjoy the scenery not to "go fast". ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 15:48:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20725 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA28484 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:47:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA20435 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:47:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgotz25418; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:45:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525676E.006CDC17 ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:49:02 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Mike Troutman" cc: karl , dc-cycles@XXXXXX (null) Message-ID: <8525676E.006CD9E4.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:37:55 -0400 Subject: Re: School's FINALLY out.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I think Tom & I were leaning more toward Saturday, but Sunday is a possibility as well. I am DEFINITELY not riding in a fast group, so moderate pace would be great for me! : ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Mike Troutman" on 05/11/99 03:17:25 PM To: karl , dc-cycles@XXXXXX(null) cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: School's FINALLY out.. I wouldn't mind going on a ride this weekend. Feel a bit more comfy on the vfr now, but still looking for a moderate pace - no Collin groups just yet. May have to work Sat - anyone want to ride Sunday (barring rain) ? Hmmmmmmm? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 15:59:31 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20927 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA28656 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA20812 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:59:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990511195930.17653.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.70.70.57] by web304.yahoomail.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:59:30 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:59:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: School's FINALLY out / Sat ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If I'm not needed to replace someone teaching this Saturday (I told him I'd back him up if he needed it) I'd love to go out on a ride. If no one has a particular route in mind, I have a recent poker run that was pretty nice. Starts at the Capitol Expo Center, runs out to Front Royal, then back to Sterling. Sunday I take off for Orlando for training (no, not at Disney World. :-( ) so I want to try to get some riding in!! Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 16:05:13 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21111 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:05:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AD671140110; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:04:55 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990511155944.01528670@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:01:41 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Rear-ended biker at fault In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990511150807.01358ba0@mail.wheatintl.com> References: <4.1.19990511133342.01525f10@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>http://www.napanews.com/nv/home.nsf/NewsBriefing/8E7F309A10BB7AC48825676E000 >>022FF >> >>Road rage ... and a van versus a motorcycle. >>The van won. What a surprise. > >Hard to tell, but it sounds like the biker _was_ at fault, if he sped up to >disallow the pass. Although he probably hit his brakes to flash the lights >and get the guy from tailgating him.... Yes, it sounds like the biker did the wrong thing. But the main point is that in a physical duel between a motorcycle and a car, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out who will win. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 16:47:26 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA21901 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA29367 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:47:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22500 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 421; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:46:54 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990511164352.019dd610@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:46:52 -0400 To: vfr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Parking Lot Incident In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As I was hopping on my VFR in the parking lot, a young mother was pushing her kids into the minivan. One kid remarked "look at the Harley" to which she replied "that isn't a Harley - its a Honda. It is made in Japan - Harleys are all American." When I told her that in general more of a Honda is made in America than a Harley, she didn't have anything to say. Can anyone find me a source for that WAG statistic that I threw out? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 17:57:05 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23262 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-221.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.221]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA25103 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:56:58 -0400 Message-ID: <051501be9bf9$140e5c40$f2a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Gorilla Alarm review Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:56:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0512_01BE9BD7.89386140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0512_01BE9BD7.89386140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In these days of vanishing bikes, this Vulcan-list post seemed on point. = There were detractors for what seemed like alarms in general (going off = at wrong times or whatever) but noone dinged Gorilla specifically. =20 Bill S. / DC / 513 99 VN750 --> Get alarmed when disturbed by strangers Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. Have had my Gorilla Alarm installed for several months now with no problems. Battery maintains a charge even when parked for a week without starting her. Installation was easy ... roughly 20 minutes, installed behind the left fuse box cover, and is completely hidden and very clean looking.=20 I really like the alarm as you can set it for both motion detection (when someone touches or attempts to sit on the bike) and/or just for tilting (when someone tilts it upright from a parked position). Also has a 'warn away' feature that beeps a few times if you get too close or start to touch the bike, if you don't let go right away, a 120 decibel siren kicks in! Has a sensitivity feature and I have not yet had it go off by accident. The alarm doesn't have a pager, but does have a key ring activator with a panic button. The range appears to be about 50 yards or so and is radio frequency controlled so you can activate it between walls, etc... Will it stop anyone from stealing it .... maybe yes, maybe no. But it does give me peace of mind to hit the alarm and hear that chirp when I am running into the convince store and there are a couple of potential young joy riders hanging out in front who might just be interested in sitting on your bike and 'trying it out', or ajusting your mirros while you pick up a Coke! =20 IMHO it was well worth the $79 it cost me. Just my .02 cents worth. ------=_NextPart_000_0512_01BE9BD7.89386140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In these days of = vanishing bikes,=20 this Vulcan-list post seemed on point.  There were detractors for = what=20 seemed like alarms in general (going off at wrong times or whatever) but = noone=20 dinged Gorilla specifically. 
 
Bill S. / DC / = 513
99 VN750 -->=20 Get alarmed when disturbed by strangers
Join the AMA.  Help = protect my=20 riding fun.
 
Have had my Gorilla Alarm installed for several
months now with = no=20 problems. Battery maintains a
charge even when parked for a week = without=20 starting
her. Installation was easy ... roughly 20 = minutes,
installed=20 behind the left fuse box cover, and is
completely hidden and very = clean=20 looking.

I really like the alarm as you can set it for = both
motion=20 detection  (when someone touches or attempts
to sit on the bike) = and/or=20 just for tilting (when
someone tilts it upright from a parked=20 position).
Also has a 'warn away' feature that beeps a few = times
if you=20 get too close or start to touch the bike, if
you don't let go right = away, a=20 120 decibel siren
kicks in! Has a sensitivity feature and I have = not
yet=20 had it go off by accident.

The alarm doesn't have a pager, but = does have=20 a key
ring activator with a panic button. The range appears
to be = about 50=20 yards or so and is radio frequency
controlled so you can activate it = between=20 walls,
etc...

Will it stop anyone from stealing it .... maybe=20 yes,
maybe no. But it does give me peace of mind to hit
the alarm = and hear=20 that chirp when I am running into
the convince store and there are a = couple=20 of
potential young joy riders hanging out in front who
might just = be=20 interested in sitting on your bike and
'trying it out', or ajusting = your=20 mirros while you
pick up a Coke!  

IMHO it was well = worth=20 the $79 it cost me. Just my
.02 cents = worth.

------=_NextPart_000_0512_01BE9BD7.89386140-- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 18:56:34 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web807.mail.yahoo.com (web807.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA24411 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990511225612.25311.rocketmail@web807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.220.24.222] by web807.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:56:12 PDT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:56:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: School's FINALLY out.. To: ewiley@XXXXXX, "DC Cycles" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Welcome back! Tell you what, let's both try to keep the rubber side DOWN for a while! :) Ride Safe. Ride Long. Dale (the Horkster) --- karl wrote: > Well, i finally get to come home for the summer and ride my bike :) > My > left arm is fully healed, so no more broken bones. > Anyone going riding this weekend? > > Cheers! > Karl > === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 19:08:59 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA24711 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl33.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.175]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 1463200 ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:07:39 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles Mail List" Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <8525676E.006CD9E4.00@172.16.2.37> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: School's FINALLY out.. Message-Id: <199905112307.1463200@zzapp.org> On Tue, 11 May 1999 15:37:55 -0400, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >I think Tom & I were leaning more toward Saturday, but Sunday is a possibility >as well. >I am DEFINITELY not riding in a fast group, so moderate pace would be great for >me! : ) Well, I am up for a Saturday ride at a moderate pace. With the ACE in the shop, I am riding the old GS400, and it's not too fast (found out this last Sunday it will easily do 90+ mph on the interstate, but gets real unstable in traffic at those speeds due to its light weight). I am busy Sunday working with the Poker Run we are putting on (Montgomery Co Chapter of ABATE of MD). If anyone has ideas, please post. But, I will limit myself to moderate rides, especially since riding the Suzuki is like sitting on a 2x6 board.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 21:15:43 1999 Return-Path: okan1262@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA26941 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:15:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-56-176.s176.tnt12.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-56-176.s176.tnt12.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.56.176]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA25755 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:15:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp3.erols.com: 207-172-56-176.s176.tnt12.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.56.176] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <3738D782.5876@erols.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:21:06 -0400 From: Okan Seremetoglu Reply-To: okan1262@XXXXXX Organization: The American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Phone Number Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody; Does anybody knows Chris's home phone number. This Chris is riding 98 VTR. Don't worry I am not a terrorist, I just need to talk to him tonight and I cannot communicate with e-mail because he said he only checks it in the office. If anybody know his home phone e-mail me please. Thanks Okan 98 F3 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 11 21:55:32 1999 Return-Path: dankenney@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f277.hotmail.com [207.82.251.168]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA27883 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 36303 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 01:54:58 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512015458.36302.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 216.164.241.80 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:54:57 PDT X-Originating-IP: [216.164.241.80] From: "DAN KENNEY" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Deals Gap Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:54:57 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; O.K. You guys talked me out of Deals gap over Memorial Day weekend. Anybody interested in putting together a multi day ride? Dan Kenney Red 1997 Suzuki TL1000s _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 07:20:06 1999 Return-Path: ewhinger1@XXXXXX Received: from m20.boston.juno.com (m20.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.190]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA08840 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:20:05 -0400 (EDT) From: ewhinger1@XXXXXX Received: (from ewhinger1@XXXXXX) by m20.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAERWW6J; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:19:36 EDT To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Cc: dreamer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 06:54:10 EDT Subject: Re: Wednesday ride? Message-ID: <19990512.071835.211.0.ewhinger1@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-8 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 11 May 1999 10:45:25 -0400 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX writes: >you might as well hit Skyline Drive while you're around Front Royal. >Fantastic turns there, and since it's midweek you probably won't have >to >sit behind too many tourists. Sections of Skyline might be still closed due to the out of control "controlled" burn that the park service started.... ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 08:23:45 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09802 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA10546 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA07467 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A28D5030128; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:22:37 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990512074658.013f1950@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 07:49:40 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Parking Lot Incident In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990511164352.019dd610@mail.wheatintl.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:46 PM 5/11/99 , Mike Troutman wrote: >When I told her that in general more of a Honda is made in America than a >Harley, she didn't have anything to say. > >Can anyone find me a source for that WAG statistic that I threw out? Not me, but I recall reading in various magazines over the years that Harley has the most made-in-America parts (about 92% I think). A close second is Honda (Marysville, Ohio) and third is Kawasaki (Kentucky?). Now there's also Polaris' Victory, and Excelsior-Henderson's Super-X. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 10:09:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11520 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:09:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11999 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:08:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA09662 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:07:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:07:09 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:07:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:04:24 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Subject: Parking Lot Incident -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Yeah, Mike, your source is a popular myth. H-D engines are made in Wauwatosa WI, frames and metal body parts are made in York PA, fiberglass touring stuff is made in Tomahawk WI. Seen it all with my own eyes. They just opened a Sportster plant in Kansas City (haven't seen). Wheels, electrics, s'pensions are "Asian" sourced. I once won $100 from some loudmouth that claimed he could find "Made in Japan" on an Evo engine. Joe '85 Ninja 900 (Made in Nebraska) '72 H-D SX 350 Sprint (Made in Italy) Can anyone find me a source for that WAG statistic that I threw out? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 10:30:28 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12027 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:30:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA02093 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA13294; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:29:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905121429.KAA13294@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:31:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: all-around boots? X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal In-reply-to: <37383EC4.4EB13F8@bellsouth.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) I am trying to find a boot that I can use at the track (just a newbie) and that is comfortable enough and practical enough for touring, commuting, regular fast fun stuff, and then be able to walk around in all day. Any suggestions? Thanks, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 10:38:37 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12174 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:38:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA03430 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 393; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:38:13 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990512103535.0130d790@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:37:36 -0400 To: vfr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: all-around boots? In-Reply-To: <199905121429.KAA13294@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> References: <37383EC4.4EB13F8@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:31 AM 5/12/99 , Danny Thompson wrote: >I am trying to find a boot that I can use at the track (just a newbie) >and that is comfortable enough and practical enough for touring, >commuting, regular fast fun stuff, and then be able to walk around in >all day. Any suggestions? I finally found some at Sunny's Surplus. The ITASCA commando-style boots are very comfortable and inexpensive ($30) with nylon webbing that allows breathing. The soles are flat (with tread) but no giant heel to get caught on the pegs. MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 10:40:45 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f100.hotmail.com [209.185.131.163]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12207 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:40:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 23509 invoked by uid 0); 12 May 1999 14:39:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990512143955.23508.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:39:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] Reply-To: mrider@XXXXXX From: "Leon Begeman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Dr. Gridlock Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 07:39:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; The Doctor published at least 4 letters from us. David Cross, Leon Begeman, Louis Caplan and Todd Peer all got published today. Cool. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 11:08:35 1999 Return-Path: ph@XXXXXX Received: from pine.eainet.com (root@XXXXXX [206.136.246.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12765 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oak (ph@XXXXXX [206.136.246.2]) by pine.eainet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA11671 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:09:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:08:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Hartzler To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock In-Reply-To: <19990512143955.23508.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Very cool. Here's the URL, in case anybody wants to read the article without wading through the Washington Post's labrynthine structure: http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-05/12/213l-051299-idx.html -ph On Wed, 12 May 1999, Leon Begeman wrote: > The Doctor published at least 4 letters from us. David Cross, Leon Begeman, > Louis Caplan and Todd Peer all got published today. > > Cool. > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > --- Peter Hartzler Ellsworth Associates, Inc. ph@XXXXXX (703) 821-3090 x 252 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 11:23:15 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13048 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:23:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgowz24847; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:22:28 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525676F.0054CC6F ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:26:13 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Leon Begeman" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525676F.0054CC13.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:14:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Woo hoo! What section is it in, again? - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Leon Begeman" on 05/12/99 10:39:55 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Dr. Gridlock The Doctor published at least 4 letters from us. David Cross, Leon Begeman, Louis Caplan and Todd Peer all got published today. Cool. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:34:51 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20322 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:34:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA22486 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:08:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA13336; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:05:06 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from viking.concentric.net (viking [206.173.119.81]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id PAA29362; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:05:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all-around boots? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990512103535.0130d790@mail.wheatintl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I bought a pair of $30 combat boots at Sunny Surplus last September and they've already worn out. Anyone know where I can buy some Dr. Martins? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 12 May 1999, Mike Troutman wrote: > At 10:31 AM 5/12/99 , Danny Thompson wrote: > >I am trying to find a boot that I can use at the track (just a newbie) > >and that is comfortable enough and practical enough for touring, > >commuting, regular fast fun stuff, and then be able to walk around in > >all day. Any suggestions? > > I finally found some at Sunny's Surplus. The ITASCA commando-style boots > are very comfortable and inexpensive ($30) with nylon webbing that allows > breathing. The soles are flat (with tread) but no giant heel to get caught > on the pegs. > > MT > > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) > > Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also > timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. > > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:34:53 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20336 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:34:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA17074 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 12 May 1999 17:44:51 UT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:30 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Trailer Message-ID: <19990512143330466-62c048c@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK folks... I'm putting out the feelers now to find someone that would be willing to loan Jeannette and I a trailer for Memorial weekend. It needs to be at least capable of hauling two bikes. If I can't find one I'll end up putting one bike in the back of the truck and ride the other one down... but I'd rather tow them both. TIA, Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:34:58 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20365 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA11880 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990512181623.26648.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web305.yahoomail.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:16:23 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:16:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Very cool. > > Here's the URL, in case anybody wants to read the article without wading > through the Washington Post's labrynthine structure: > http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-05/12/213l-051299-idx.html Neat, even if they did cut out the part of my letter pointing out Leon in the USA Today picture. Gee, I wonder why? :-) Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:35:04 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20440 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA16154 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:51:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A31E6B200A0; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:49:50 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990512113854.0141fcc0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:39:28 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock In-Reply-To: References: <19990512143955.23508.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Very positive article. Many thanks to the dc-cycles folks who wrote such good letters. Chris Norloff At 11:08 AM 5/12/99 , Peter Hartzler wrote: >Very cool. > >Here's the URL, in case anybody wants to read the article without wading >through the Washington Post's labrynthine structure: >http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-05/12/213l-051299-idx.html > >-ph > >On Wed, 12 May 1999, Leon Begeman wrote: > >> The Doctor published at least 4 letters from us. David Cross, Leon Begeman, >> Louis Caplan and Todd Peer all got published today. >> >> Cool. >> >> >> _______________________________________________________________ >> Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >> > >--- >Peter Hartzler >Ellsworth Associates, Inc. >ph@XXXXXX >(703) 821-3090 x 252 > > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:35:08 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20471 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:35:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13977 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:39:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:32:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for the ride sheet the includes Waxpool Road Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:32:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain I know it's out there somewhere, I just can't seem to find it... Any help by, oh, 12:30ish would be greatly appreciated. -Mark '83 V65 Magna From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:35:01 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20374 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web507.yahoomail.com (web507.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.74]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA22174 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:25:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990512162401.2641.rocketmail@web507.yahoomail.com> Received: from [152.159.1.17] by web507.yahoomail.com; Wed, 12 May 1999 09:24:01 PDT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:24:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock To: mrider@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Congratulations to the motorcycle ambassadors! Your letters made riders sound like intelligent, reasonable people. Sean Sullivan --- Leon Begeman wrote: > The Doctor published at least 4 letters from us. > David Cross, Leon Begeman, > Louis Caplan and Todd Peer all got published today. > > Cool. > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit > http://www.msn.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:34:56 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20349 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA16000 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 14:30:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 12 May 1999 17:38:57 UT Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:26 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: School's FINALLY out.. Message-ID: <19990512142730679-6268720@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was hoping to head out near Front Royal to have some fun on twistier roads (not at break neck speeds though). Anyone have any suggestions? How about someone wanting to organize a ride of some sort? I'm not really all that great at leading groups... especially when I have not a clue as to where I'm going. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: School's FINALLY out.. Author: snake69@XXXXXX (Marvin Heilesen) Date: 5/11/99 7:08 PM On Tue, 11 May 1999 15:37:55 -0400, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: >I think Tom & I were leaning more toward Saturday, but Sunday is a possibility >as well. >I am DEFINITELY not riding in a fast group, so moderate pace would be great for >me! : ) Well, I am up for a Saturday ride at a moderate pace. With the ACE in the shop, I am riding the old GS400, and it's not too fast (found out this last Sunday it will easily do 90+ mph on the interstate, but gets real unstable in traffic at those speeds due to its light weight). I am busy Sunday working with the Poker Run we are putting on (Montgomery Co Chapter of ABATE of MD). If anyone has ideas, please post. But, I will limit myself to moderate rides, especially since riding the Suzuki is like sitting on a 2x6 board.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:35:28 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20482 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA15645 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:41:41 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Looking for the ride sheet the includes Waxpool Road Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:41:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain never mind, I have a copy on my pc. thanks anyway... -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Mark Petty Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:33 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for the ride sheet the includes Waxpool Road I know it's out there somewhere, I just can't seem to find it... Any help by, oh, 12:30ish would be greatly appreciated. -Mark '83 V65 Magna From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:35:47 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20493 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13785 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA17197 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:34:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: all-around boots? In-Reply-To: <199905121429.KAA13294@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 May 1999, Danny Thompson wrote: > I am trying to find a boot that I can use at the track (just a newbie) > and that is comfortable enough and practical enough for touring, > commuting, regular fast fun stuff, and then be able to walk around in > all day. Any suggestions? There are lots of armored touring boots that would be suitable for track usage (albeit, without the toe sliders). I've got BMW's touring boot, it's fully armored (shin, ankles, toe, heel), waterproof, basic black, comfortable, etc... Other makes have similar boots, for a tad less money (the BMW boots are about $270). Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 19:36:12 1999 Return-Path: berman@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA20504 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 19:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA12078 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10995 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 11:26:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:26:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: all-around boots? In-Reply-To: <199905121429.KAA13294@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII TEVA makes some very nice all-around footware. Sorry...couldn't resist. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams On Wed, 12 May 1999, Danny Thompson wrote: > I am trying to find a boot that I can use at the track (just a newbie) > and that is comfortable enough and practical enough for touring, > commuting, regular fast fun stuff, and then be able to walk around in > all day. Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > > Danny > '99 VFR > '93 DR 350 > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 22:13:42 1999 Return-Path: schelzig@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA25163 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from research.circ.gwu.edu (research.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.250]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA04944 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:13:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by research.circ.gwu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA28290; Wed, 12 May 1999 22:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:14:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Erik Schelzig To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all-around boots? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII All through undergrad I always got my Docs at Smash in Georgetown. Kind of a freaky store, but they got good prices/selection. That you be M and something like 36th. Allbests, Erik '80 CX500 On Wed, 12 May 1999, Hugh A. Caldwell wrote: > > I bought a pair of $30 combat boots at Sunny Surplus > last September and they've already worn out. > Anyone know where I can buy some Dr. Martins? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 12 May 1999, Mike Troutman wrote: > > > At 10:31 AM 5/12/99 , Danny Thompson wrote: > > >I am trying to find a boot that I can use at the track (just a newbie) > > >and that is comfortable enough and practical enough for touring, > > >commuting, regular fast fun stuff, and then be able to walk around in > > >all day. Any suggestions? > > > > I finally found some at Sunny's Surplus. The ITASCA commando-style boots > > are very comfortable and inexpensive ($30) with nylon webbing that allows > > breathing. The soles are flat (with tread) but no giant heel to get caught > > on the pegs. > > > > MT > > > > > > ___________________________________________ > > Mike Troutman > > http://www.troutman.org > > > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > > Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) > > > > Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also > > timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 23:13:10 1999 Return-Path: tansey@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA26350 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from links.magenta.com (tansey@XXXXXX [151.199.66.150]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA14503 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by links.magenta.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA04759; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:10:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:10:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Tansey To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: all-around boots? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 May 1999, Hugh A. Caldwell wrote: > I bought a pair of $30 combat boots at Sunny Surplus > last September and they've already worn out. > Anyone know where I can buy some Dr. Martins? I've got a pair of Grinders - all leather, steel toe, combat-style boots. Extremely comfy to walk around in and I'm told they make a reasonable riding boot too. Shannon From dc-cycles-request Wed May 12 23:45:55 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA27281 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id XAA04316; Wed, 12 May 1999 23:48:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: free mc parts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Free: 1985 Suzuki GS-300 motor, no electrics, clean oil, 8100 mi on odometer, but condition unknown. R wheel and sprocket for above. Parts from 1983 750 Interceptor: motor (no electrics), low miles but top end (at least) is missing, and pistons rusted in bores. Cases and gearbox probably ok. Also swingarm and fender brace. There may well be other items as I (gasp) clean up the garage. I'll post them if and when. --garcia From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 08:07:36 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06462 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:06:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A02316E01A6; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:05:55 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990513080246.01527170@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:06:44 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: DC Law - only 4 hr. motorcycle parking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" According to the May/June issue of Winding Road Motorcycle Times, the reason DC has changed their motorcycle parking meters down to a 4 hr. limit is they passed a regulation to do so! (This reminds me of watching Congress - things can be going to hell, and they'll spend time renaming an airport, for example.) WRMT gives the DC mayor's address-- Mayor Anthony Williams One Judiciary Square 441 Fourth St. NW Washington, DC 20001 Perhaps mention that motorcycles are space and fuel efficient vehicles that do not cause gridlock. DC should encourage motorcycles, not discourage them. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 08:10:56 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06490 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A13619201A6; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:10:30 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990513080701.01523600@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:08:56 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Women's riding gear Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I saw an ad in the May/June issue of Winding Road Motorcycle Times for PowerSports motociter outfitters in Richmond, who say they have "apparel and accessories for the female rider". 11225 Midlothain Pike, Richmond, VA (804)794-9646 Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 08:33:28 1999 Return-Path: rosenc@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA06978 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [207.172.38.41] (207-172-38-41.s41.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.38.41]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20402; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:31:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905131231.IAA20402@smtp2.erols.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:31:14 -0400 Subject: test....discard From: "Charles L. Rosen" To: rosenc@XXXXXX CC: Regina Allard , Josh Ammerman , Karen And Andrew , Leonard Appleman , Phillip Berryhill , Russel Buchanan , Tim Burke > , Joseph Chen , Colleen Corwell , "dc-cycles" , Jeff Dembner , Barbara Dunn , Patricia Perkins Duong , "Dr. Duc Duong" , "Tom S. Ellis" , Mary Clare Glabowicz , Ian Gobin , Aimee Granger , Timea Hodics , Marvin William Jackson , Jeff Jacobson , "O'Brien, Jeannette" , Marilyn Krukowski , Barbara and Keith Kuhlegl , Zach Levine , Karen Levinson , Akio Morita , Peter Nora , Mark Philips , Andrea Amal Prados , Jennifer Pryll , Rob Pryor , seth rosen , Jim Salzer , BK Skinner , "McHardy M. Smith" , "Caple A. Spence" , Benjamin W Starnes , Benjamin and Margie Starnes , Arie Struyk , Brian Sullivan , Karen Turri , "vfr@XXXXXX" , Dave Weitman , Donald Wright Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 09:27:13 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08226 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA23738 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10hvPG-0003Vv-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:20:10 -0400 Received: from david500 ([209.70.174.26]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA26611 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001401be9d44$51d800c0$1aae46d1@david500.bdanet.com> From: "Dave Cross" To: Subject: Re: DC Law - only 4 hr. motorcycle parking Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:27:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 The Mayor's Email address also: Mayor@XXXXXX Dave > >WRMT gives the DC mayor's address-- >Mayor Anthony Williams >One Judiciary Square >441 Fourth St. NW >Washington, DC 20001 > >Perhaps mention that motorcycles are space and fuel efficient vehicles that >do not cause gridlock. DC should encourage motorcycles, not discourage them. > >Chris Norloff > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 09:30:04 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08343 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:29:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA24123 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:28:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3411864010C; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:27:29 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990513092747.01520090@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:28:34 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: ltr to DC mayor re: m/c parking Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, here's my letter -- 13 May 1999 508 N. West St. Falls Church, VA 22046 The Honorable Anthony Williams One Judiciary Square 441 Fourth St. NW Washington, DC 20001 Dear Mayor Williams, I'm writing about the recent change to reduce motorcycle parking meter time to a maximum of 4 hours. I think that reducing the motorcycle parking time hurts DC. Motorcycles are space and fuel-efficient vehicles that do not cause gridlock. Motorcycles are part of the answer to dealing with DC's traffic and parking problems. DC should be encouraging motorcyclists, not discouraging them. Thank you, Chris Norloff Day (202)863-2680 x225 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 09:38:26 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA08610 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:38:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA25594 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgpak00360; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256770.004B2994 ; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:40:58 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Chris Norloff cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256770.004B278F.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:29:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Dr. Gridlock Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I saw it today, way to go guys! : ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 10:42:58 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com ([205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09748 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513144945.15859.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web307.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:49:45 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 07:49:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Saturday Ride To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just confirmed that I will not be needed to work on Saturday. I saw that several people wanted to go for a ride, but I didn't see any firm ride suggestions. I can lead a Poker Run Route that I did a few weeks ago. It starts at the Capitol Expo Center (Rt. 28, between I-66 and Rt. 50), runs out to Front Royal, then ends up in Sterling. About 140 miles on the route. It wasn't the most spetacular run I've been on, but it was enjoyable. Would this interest people? If not I can dig through my previous runs and find something else. People who have ridden with me know that I tend to go at a moderate pace. I'm not a peg scrapper, and don't play one on T.V. :-) (by the same token, I'm not a snail either...) E-mail me if you are interested. If there is an interest, I'll send out directions, meeting time, etc. tonight or tomorrow morning. (I have all the info at home, and have a "dinner meeting" with an organization tonight.) Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 11:29:20 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web307.yahoomail.com ([205.180.60.189]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09748 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:41:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513144945.15859.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web307.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 07:49:45 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 07:49:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Saturday Ride To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just confirmed that I will not be needed to work on Saturday. I saw that several people wanted to go for a ride, but I didn't see any firm ride suggestions. I can lead a Poker Run Route that I did a few weeks ago. It starts at the Capitol Expo Center (Rt. 28, between I-66 and Rt. 50), runs out to Front Royal, then ends up in Sterling. About 140 miles on the route. It wasn't the most spetacular run I've been on, but it was enjoyable. Would this interest people? If not I can dig through my previous runs and find something else. People who have ridden with me know that I tend to go at a moderate pace. I'm not a peg scrapper, and don't play one on T.V. :-) (by the same token, I'm not a snail either...) E-mail me if you are interested. If there is an interest, I'll send out directions, meeting time, etc. tonight or tomorrow morning. (I have all the info at home, and have a "dinner meeting" with an organization tonight.) Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 11:43:52 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00580 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA17549 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513155401.29122.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web305.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 08:54:01 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: intro, and etc. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cool!!!! Then we can let my Monitor, Tegu, and 4 snakes fight over the bloddy carcass!!! Then we can send the tape to Fox, who I'm sure will make a Tuesday/Thursday special out of it!! :) "When Good Meat Eating Reptiles Go BAD!" next on Fox... CT --- Bikes R Us wrote: > I'm warning you! One more mention of politics and the iguana gets it! > I > swear I'll put a bullet in him... === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 11:51:14 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00786 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:51:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 13 May 1999 14:59:28 UT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 11:50 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Louis F. Caplan" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Saturday Ride Message-ID: <19990513115134743-abe2080@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sounds like a plan to me but if you don't think it's really spectacular would you mind digging up something that's a little more fun? Last thing I want to do is be a pain but I'm looking for a rather fun ride although not super fast. Moderate works for me. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Saturday Ride Author: nighthawk700@XXXXXX (Louis F. Caplan) Date: 5/13/99 10:49 AM I just confirmed that I will not be needed to work on Saturday. I saw that several people wanted to go for a ride, but I didn't see any firm ride suggestions. I can lead a Poker Run Route that I did a few weeks ago. It starts at the Capitol Expo Center (Rt. 28, between I-66 and Rt. 50), runs out to Front Royal, then ends up in Sterling. About 140 miles on the route. It wasn't the most spetacular run I've been on, but it was enjoyable. Would this interest people? If not I can dig through my previous runs and find something else. People who have ridden with me know that I tend to go at a moderate pace. I'm not a peg scrapper, and don't play one on T.V. :-) (by the same token, I'm not a snail either...) E-mail me if you are interested. If there is an interest, I'll send out directions, meeting time, etc. tonight or tomorrow morning. (I have all the info at home, and have a "dinner meeting" with an organization tonight.) Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 11:58:28 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00889 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 11:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513160152.15940.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web301.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 09:01:52 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 09:01:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Bike Week(s) at Myrtle -Reply To: JOE NAGY , djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Never been to Myrtle Beach, but the outer banks sure are nice, and only 4.5 hours away by motorcycle... CT (the speed limit is that sign with the "I" in front of the number isn't it?? he he he) --- JOE NAGY wrote: > My first (and last) impression of Myrtle Beach: > > "DAMN! We drove past the Outer Banks to come HERE?" > > Joe > Richmond > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 12:06:09 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01101 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 13 May 1999 15:14:25 UT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:04 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: PC for sale (non-moto) Message-ID: <19990513120634667-acbdbd4@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Folks, I have a server level PC that I need to get rid of. It's a Pentium Pro 200 (clocked to 233) with a tower case, Adaptec PCI Fast-SCSI card, 4.3 GB Seagate Barracuda (sub 9sec access... very fast), Diamond Stealth Video w/4MB VRAM, Diamond Monster 3D card, and something around 128MB ram (not positive though). I have a couple of 17" monitors to through in, too... a NEC Multisync 5FG (a little fuzzy.. I can adjust), and a Digital. Comes with a copy of Windows NT Workstation. For what it is this PC rocks and would make a great workstation or home based fileserver. Make me an offer if interested (I need the money to pick up a VFR motor from a guy out west... always need spares and this one comes with carbs and all the goodies). <----- ok... slight moto content. Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 12:06:10 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA01102 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 13 May 1999 15:14:25 UT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:06 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "nighthawk700@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]:Saturday Ride Message-ID: <19990513120634807-acbdc60@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oops... that should have been.... "not really spectacular" Sorry... I type too fast sometimes. Tom ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re:Saturday Ride Author: TZell@XXXXXX (Tom Zell) Date: 5/13/99 11:50 AM Sounds like a plan to me but if you don't think it's really spectacular would you mind digging up something that's a little more fun? Last thing I want to do is be a pain but I'm looking for a rather fun ride although not super fast. Moderate works for me. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Saturday Ride Author: nighthawk700@XXXXXX (Louis F. Caplan) Date: 5/13/99 10:49 AM I just confirmed that I will not be needed to work on Saturday. I saw that several people wanted to go for a ride, but I didn't see any firm ride suggestions. I can lead a Poker Run Route that I did a few weeks ago. It starts at the Capitol Expo Center (Rt. 28, between I-66 and Rt. 50), runs out to Front Royal, then ends up in Sterling. About 140 miles on the route. It wasn't the most spetacular run I've been on, but it was enjoyable. Would this interest people? If not I can dig through my previous runs and find something else. People who have ridden with me know that I tend to go at a moderate pace. I'm not a peg scrapper, and don't play one on T.V. :-) (by the same token, I'm not a snail either...) E-mail me if you are interested. If there is an interest, I'll send out directions, meeting time, etc. tonight or tomorrow morning. (I have all the info at home, and have a "dinner meeting" with an organization tonight.) Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 12:35:04 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01521 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:34:58 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA25145 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id MAA21123; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:24:45 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma020497; Thu, 13 May 99 12:24:05 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBO003H0IYPPA@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256770.0059E282 ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:21:46 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:15:30 -0400 Subject: Camping at the Outer Banks? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256770.005ABBBE.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi folks. This talk about the Outer Banks in NC has gotten me thinking. Is there camping available somewhere in that area? It sounds like a good, inexpensive moto-holiday. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 12:35:06 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01590 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:35:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA22809 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA00864; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:10:47 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA11261; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:10:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:10:47 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: "Louis F. Caplan" cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: Saturday Ride In-Reply-To: <19990513144945.15859.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sounds good to me. My only suggestion is the longer the ride the better. I want to get the viffer over 5k miles this weekend :-) and I'm signed up for Advanced Rider Training (again, lets hope it doesn't rain this time) on Sunday so I wont be putting many miles on the bike that day. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 12:35:13 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01592 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA23939 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id MAA10815; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:09:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990513121530.00ab0d70@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:16:42 -0400 To: "Louis F. Caplan" , DC-Cycles From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: Saturday Ride In-Reply-To: <19990513144945.15859.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'd love to go, but seeing as how the bike has 30 miles on, I'm probably going to be moving at more of a snails pace (though once it's ready to go, it sounds like we ride similarly on the road). If there's anyone else going that might be a bit on the slow side, I'd love the company. grant At 07:49 AM 5/13/99 -0700, Louis F. Caplan wrote: > >I just confirmed that I will not be needed to work on Saturday. I saw that >several people wanted to go for a ride, but I didn't see any firm ride >suggestions. I can lead a Poker Run Route that I did a few weeks ago. It >starts at the Capitol Expo Center (Rt. 28, between I-66 and Rt. 50), runs out >to Front Royal, then ends up in Sterling. About 140 miles on the route. It >wasn't the most spetacular run I've been on, but it was enjoyable. Would this >interest people? If not I can dig through my previous runs and find something >else. > >People who have ridden with me know that I tend to go at a moderate pace. I'm >not a peg scrapper, and don't play one on T.V. :-) (by the same token, I'm >not a snail either...) > >E-mail me if you are interested. If there is an interest, I'll send out >directions, meeting time, etc. tonight or tomorrow morning. (I have all the >info at home, and have a "dinner meeting" with an organization tonight.) > >Louis > >=== >Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA >1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 >"Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 12:49:18 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01855 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:47:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id MAA10929; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990513124211.00ab6250@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:47:51 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: new bike! Cc: sv650@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, I picked up the new SV today (of course, it's the only day of the week thus far that hasn't been gorgeous, but I suppose I should have expected that). It's tough to form initial impressions, especially when I've been away from the track/not on a bike in 9 months. For one, it's the first unfaired bike I've owned (except for the CBR600 I rolled, but it didn't come that way so it doesn't count), and wind blast is noticeable. Two, breakin sucks... it's incredibly difficult to keep this thing under 5k and light on the throttle. Three, V-Twins rock! Having never ridden a twin, I wasn't really sure what to expect... it's really neat, because you hear this rumbly engine under you, but there's no more vibration that I remember from an inline 4. Four: slip-on slip-on slip-on. As soon as there's a reasonably priced slip-on around, grab it. I don't like a ton of noise, but this bike needs a voice, and right now it's a little on the muffled side. I'll let ya know when it's broken in... grant From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 13:09:59 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02282 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:09:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:08:29 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFF54@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Camping at the Outer Banks? Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:08:29 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Try these and see if you find what you are looking for. I remember a public camping area around Hatteras but I'm not sure if its open anymore. http://www.theouterbanks.com/ http://www.outer-banks.com/ http://www.outerbanks-nc.com/ http://www.aesir.com/OuterBanks/AreaComments.html http://www.nccoast.com/ >This talk about the Outer Banks in NC has gotten me thinking. Is there >camping available somewhere in that area? It sounds like a good, >inexpensive moto-holiday. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 13:28:36 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02715 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:28:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net (chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.98]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA05508 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by chi6sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgpaz23346; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:28:25 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256770.00605B18 ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:32:27 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Grant Heffernan cc: "Louis F. Caplan" , DC-Cycles Message-ID: <85256770.00605915.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:20:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Saturday Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Don't worry, they always wait for the slow ones! Take from me, a slow one! ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Grant Heffernan on 05/13/99 12:16:42 PM To: "Louis F. Caplan" , DC-Cycles cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: Saturday Ride I'd love to go, but seeing as how the bike has 30 miles on, I'm probably going to be moving at more of a snails pace (though once it's ready to go, it sounds like we ride similarly on the road). If there's anyone else going that might be a bit on the slow side, I'd love the company. grant At 07:49 AM 5/13/99 -0700, Louis F. Caplan wrote: > >I just confirmed that I will not be needed to work on Saturday. I saw that >several people wanted to go for a ride, but I didn't see any firm ride >suggestions. I can lead a Poker Run Route that I did a few weeks ago. It >starts at the Capitol Expo Center (Rt. 28, between I-66 and Rt. 50), runs out >to Front Royal, then ends up in Sterling. About 140 miles on the route. It >wasn't the most spetacular run I've been on, but it was enjoyable. Would this >interest people? If not I can dig through my previous runs and find something >else. > >People who have ridden with me know that I tend to go at a moderate pace. I'm >not a peg scrapper, and don't play one on T.V. :-) (by the same token, I'm >not a snail either...) > >E-mail me if you are interested. If there is an interest, I'll send out >directions, meeting time, etc. tonight or tomorrow morning. (I have all the >info at home, and have a "dinner meeting" with an organization tonight.) > >Louis > >=== >Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA >1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 >"Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 13:37:27 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02920 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA07057 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:37:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:36:27 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:36:23 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:32:57 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Subject: Camping at the Outer Banks? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline At the Virginia/North Carolina border, there is a state park on the Virginia side. I've heard there's camping there, but it being a state park, I'm sure you'll have to reserve a site. It's not officially the "Outer Banks" of course, but it's right there, and you've got the same wild ponies, fishing, beach etc. Really beautiful area. Joe From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 13:37:16 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02917 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513173948.23408.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:39:48 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:39:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Last Saturdays ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Just got back into town last night and slowly catching up with mail.... Hope everyone enjoyed the ride last Saturday... Although the weather looked nasty before we headed out, it turned into a very nice day. I really enjoyed that loop... been on all those roads numerous times, but never in quite that order... very little slab sections that way and very little repetition of roads.... definitely will have to do it again sometime..... Although, I would have been jsut as happy skipping that (what felt like) 2 foot horizontal slide in that gravel patch on Milltown road. Apparently, it looked impressive to those who saw it, but it sure wasn't fun in the riders seat... A super big apology to the two riders that we lost at the turn off from evergreen mill road. I thought everyone was right with us as we made that turn, and I kept on going. Hope you found your way back OK once you got to 659. Please don't hate me :) It wasn't on purpose! Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 13:39:43 1999 Return-Path: Bluice101@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02950 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:39:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bluice101@XXXXXX Received: from Bluice101@XXXXXX (14444) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2CXEa04195 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:38:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:38:48 EDT Subject: Camping North Carolina To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 There are a few KOA's in the Outter Banks area. And the price is always right. A really nice one is in Rodanthe North Carolina which is midway down on the banks. But one work of warning. The ocean is right over the sand dunes and at night salt air gets on your machine. Then riding the roads causes sand to hit that same chrome on your bike. Guess what.. Instant cleaning needed ..... Guess how I know LOL Debbie 98 Royal Star From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 13:41:18 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02986 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513174354.24142.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 10:43:54 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:43:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re:Saturday Ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'd be up for one of Louis' rides as well... I can lead (or just join) a faster group so that those wanting a quicker pace can have it and those wishing to see the scenery can do that too, with us all meeting to invade the lunch stop :) ALong those lines, a friend tells me that this weekend is the Wine and Mushroom (sounds like a disgusting combination) festival is happening this weekend in Front Royal.. I have no idea how that may affect lunch if we were to stop there.... Also, if we do head in the viscinity of Front Royal, I may break off early so I can stop off and visit a friend who I haven't seen in a few months,... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 13:44:59 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03108 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA08403 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:44:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA16034; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:43:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905131743.NAA16034@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Tom Zell" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:46:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: computer 4-sale X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Tom, I don't suppose that you would consider donating it to my Technology Program here at Liberty HS if you can't get a good price for it. You can get a really good tax write-off since we are an educational institution. I know the donation won't help with the $ for the spare motor, but I have to ask, my kids are sharing and it is tough to learn AutoCAD when you are sharing a 'puter. Thanks, Danny Tom wrote: > Folks, I have a server level PC that I need to get rid of. It's a Pentium > Pro 200 (clocked to 233) with a tower case, Adaptec PCI Fast-SCSI card, > 4.3 GB Seagate Barracuda (sub 9sec access... very fast), Diamond Stealth > Video w/4MB VRAM, Diamond Monster 3D card, and something around 128MB ram > (not positive though). I have a couple of 17" monitors to through in, > too... a NEC Multisync 5FG (a little fuzzy.. I can adjust), and a Digital. > Comes with a copy of Windows NT Workstation. For what it is this PC > rocks and would make a great workstation or home based fileserver. Make > me an offer if interested (I need the money to pick up a VFR motor from a > guy out west... always need spares and this one comes with carbs and all > the goodies). <----- ok... slight moto content. > > Tom > '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 13:51:47 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03328 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A12D22F01B8; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:51:41 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990513135027.01548cf0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:52:14 -0400 To: "'DC Cycles'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Camping at the Outer Banks? In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFF54@dadc040.hqda.pentag on.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:08 PM 5/13/99 , Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM wrote: >Try these and see if you find what you are looking for. I remember a public >camping area around Hatteras but I'm not sure if its open anymore. I've camped on Ocracoke Island before (the southernmost island of the NC Outer Banks, reachable only by ferry). The campsite was quite nice, and I'd camp there again except I wouldn't leave the tent up all day - the sand fleas took up residence there and met me when I got home that night. :-o Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 13:59:14 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03481 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA10827 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 143; Thu, 13 May 1999 13:58:54 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990513135735.01a10bd0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:57:58 -0400 To: "Danny Thompson" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Tom Zell" From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: computer 4-sale In-Reply-To: <199905131743.NAA16034@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:46 PM 5/13/99 , Danny Thompson wrote: >Tom, > >I don't suppose that you would consider donating it to my >Technology Program here at Liberty HS if you can't get a good >price for it. You can get a really good tax write-off since we are an >educational institution. I know the donation won't help with the $ for >the spare motor, but I have to ask, my kids are sharing and it is >tough to learn AutoCAD when you are sharing a 'puter. Too slow Danny - I already bought it for my side company ;-) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org "Suing the gun companies for wrongful death is akin to suing Indy car sponsers for 'making' you speed" From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 14:10:33 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03785 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:10:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA13097 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:10:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA08950; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:13:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905131813.OAA08950@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Collin T. Fagan" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Last Saturdays ride X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal In-reply-to: <19990513173948.23408.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Hey Collin, did you ever get your tail (case) reattatched? :) Remind me in the future not to follow you too closely (like there is a chance of that....) you never know what may be flying off. > Hope everyone enjoyed the ride last Saturday... Although the weather > looked nasty before we headed out, it turned into a very nice day. > I really enjoyed that loop... been on all those roads numerous times, but > never in quite that order... very little slab sections that way and very > little repetition of roads.... definitely will have to do it again > sometime..... > > Although, I would have been jsut as happy skipping that (what felt > like) 2 foot horizontal slide in that gravel patch on Milltown road. > Apparently, it looked impressive to those who saw it, but it sure wasn't > fun in the riders seat... It was a fun ride, I think everyone hit the gravel patch you are talking about. It was one of my first "squirrelly" experiences on my new VFR, no fun, but a very exillerating(sp?) I can't go with you guys this Saturday, I have to work (Tech Ed. exposition) so I am going to play in the dirt with Kirk Roy and some others on Sunday. Yeee-Hiiiyyy! Have fun, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 14:11:16 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03796 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id OAA14885 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:04:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990513141101.00a28e60@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:45 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: saturday Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So, any official word for Saturday... I'm up for any route, since they're all unknown to me. As long as there's a slow poke or two for me to ride with, I'll be there. ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 14:11:31 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03806 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id OAA25293; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:24 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA14230; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: Grant Heffernan cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Saturday Ride In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990513121530.00ab0d70@fedsco.sco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I picked up my VFR on a Thursday afternoon and after going on DC-Cycles rides on Saturday and Sunday it was ready for it's 600 mile service on Monday. I think you're doing yourself a disservice by not going riding. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 13 May 1999, Grant Heffernan wrote: > I'd love to go, but seeing as how the bike has 30 miles on, I'm probably > going to be moving at more of a snails pace (though once it's ready to go, > it sounds like we ride similarly on the road). If there's anyone else > going that might be a bit on the slow side, I'd love the company. > grant > > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 14:16:49 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03979 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA14033 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA11883; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905131819.OAA11883@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, "Mike Troutman" Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:18:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: computer 4-sale X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal In-reply-to: <4.1.19990513135735.01a10bd0@mail.wheatintl.com> References: <199905131743.NAA16034@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) > Too slow Danny - I already bought it for my side company ;-) > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org Maaan!!! My stupid ISP is having e-mail sending problems today (and for the past 3 days) and look what happens! Naw, I didn't figure a donation was happening anyway, they are hard to come by if the computer is worth anything at all. I know I would sell before donating unless I just had more $$ than sense or needed a good tax write-off. Glad it will go to good use by a motorcycle rider. :) What side company? Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 14:18:21 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03989 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:18:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id OAA18468; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990513141755.00a69930@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:18:35 -0400 To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: Saturday Ride Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990513121530.00ab0d70@fedsco.sco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ah! Easy people... I want to go... just gimmie a few slow folks to show me the way and I'll be happy. Believe me, the quicker it's broken in, the happier I'll be. At 02:11 PM 5/13/99 -0400, Hugh A. Caldwell wrote: > > I picked up my VFR on a Thursday afternoon and after >going on DC-Cycles rides on Saturday and Sunday it was ready >for it's 600 mile service on Monday. I think you're doing >yourself a disservice by not going riding. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI >---------------------------------------------------------------- > >On Thu, 13 May 1999, Grant Heffernan wrote: > >> I'd love to go, but seeing as how the bike has 30 miles on, I'm probably >> going to be moving at more of a snails pace (though once it's ready to go, >> it sounds like we ride similarly on the road). If there's anyone else >> going that might be a bit on the slow side, I'd love the company. >> grant >> >> > ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 14:23:13 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from defender.fda.gov (defender.fda.gov [198.77.181.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04074 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bambi.cder.fda.gov by defender.fda.gov via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 13 May 1999 18:22:39 UT Received: from royk.cder.fda.gov ("port 2507"@royk.cder.fda.gov [150.148.146.166]) by Mail.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.2-32 #37506) with SMTP id <01JB5H64SM5S95MNCP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:24:17 -0500 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:24:12 -0400 From: Kirk Roy Subject: Titling a bike X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <4.1.19990513140624.00933260@beta.nova.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've been doing some searching for title services to get a title for an older bike I've got. I managed to find one service (http://www.thewantads.com/users/titles/Grady.htm) that'll give you a NH or AL title with minimal fuss. I'm sure there are lots of others out there. A yellow pages search for vehicle title companies in NH or AL would turn most of them up... It turns out that the cost isn't worth it for the bike I've got but maybe someone else out there could benefit. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 14:29:56 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA04204 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:29:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA16405 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA10132; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905131828.OAA10132@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Gary Foreman Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:31:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: computer 4-sale X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal References: <199905131743.NAA16034@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> In-reply-to: <000001be9d6c$c1f8f620$d929bccc@loudoun.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) No, I could use 486's but obviously prefer Pentium's. The 486's are good for the beginning classes to use for AutoCAD R12 and some other things we have. Thay are also great for the students to do papers on and presentations etc. I need Pentiums to run the newer software in my CAD, Engineering, Architecture, Animation and Communications classes Why? He asks hopefully.... Danny Date sent: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:16:44 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: computer 4-sale To: Danny Thompson > What type of computers would you accept? Must it be Pentium class? From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 14:32:08 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA04312 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:32:05 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id OAA03025; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:32:59 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma002169; Thu, 13 May 99 14:32:05 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBO00MU5OVVRH@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:33:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256770.0065975C ; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:29:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:23:44 -0400 Subject: Hookey Day Ride Report To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256770.006677ED.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Sorry for the length of this ride report. It ended up much longer than I intended. --- Well, I bailed out of work yesterday and took the Soooperhawk on its first long(ish) ride. I figure I covered about 250 miles, give or take. I set out about 10 am on the VTR after sleeping in like the sack of potatoes that I am. After a quick grease snack at Mickey D's, I left Manassas on route 66. I preferred to do this since the roads to route 55 from my home aren't very good and I wanted to get to the good stuff quickly. After a couple of exits, I hopped on route 55, a state route that roughly follows I-66 west toward Front Royal. This stretch of road is very nice, with some fast sweeping turns and little traffic. I've ridden here often, and it was a pleasant, familiar ride. After many miles and somewhere between 30 and 45 minutes, I found myself entering Front Royal. After riding through Front Royal, I made my way to the Shenandoah National Park entrance and the beginning of Skyline Drive. For those of you not familiar with this area, Skyline is well known for great curves but a hideously low speed limit of 35. On a relatively empty park day the speed limit feels excessively restrictive, but on heavily travelled days such as one finds during fall "leaf-watching season" with its gawking tourons, it's probably not such a bad idea. After paying my $5 entry fee, I rode up onto the ridge that Skyline Drive follows and began enjoying the curves. I didn't worry too much about the speed limit and judging from the lack of police enforcement, I figured that the Park Service didn't worry about it much during mid-week either. After enjoying a few overlooks and many twisties, I noticed something on the stone retaining wall up ahead. Lo and behold, a small black bear was perched on the wall as though he was waiting for a bus. As I approached, he dashed off into the woods. I had never seen a bear on Skyline Drive before and figured it was a good omen for the ride. I eventually made my way to the first exit from the park near Luray, VA. After taking a small detour to play with the throttle inside of a stone tunnel a little further up Skyline, I left the park heading west. I was in search of gas and the next road on my itinerary, state route 675/678. I drove around the outskirts of Luray for a half hour, searching in vain for my objective. After stopping for directions from a craft shop lady (and her heavily shedding cat) and the gas station operator at Luray Caverns, I finally found the road I was after. Note that this route is not well marked on some maps (at least the ones I had). Route 675 and 678 are stellar roads, and I had barrels of fun winding my way through the seemingly endless supply of curves, dips and hills. I can't recommend this route highly enough. I give both route numbers here because my map markings were fairly ambiguous. 675 begins near Luray and 678 branches off of it to head north towards Woodstock. Chris Meier had recommended this route to me, and I must say his comments were spot on. If you find yourself in the area with a half hour or so to kill, check it out. After slaking my thirst for high entry speeds and low lean angles, I took a more sedate pace back to Front Royal and I-66. I took the speedy route home on the super slab in order to make up some time for a dinner arrangement I had planned. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 15:14:57 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05149 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513191509.24729.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:15:09 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:15:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: computer 4-sale To: Danny Thompson Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii He he he... It's tough to learn AutoCAD even if you have the computer all to yourself!! lol Collin (Who learned the hydrodynamics software in college and left that artsy fartsy autacad stuff to his lab partner ;-)) --- Danny Thompson wrote: my kids are sharing and it is > tough to learn AutoCAD when you are sharing a 'puter. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 15:23:53 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05325 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:23:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA25727 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:23:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513192357.26167.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:23:57 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:23:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Last Saturdays ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, I just got back into town last night, so I haven't locked the ole trunk back down on "Pepe" yet, but it'll get done tonight... I was actually surprised that it's stayed put through all I've given it... Since it doesn't really have much of a lock set on it, it's been held on by a zip tie that Brian affixed to it about 4 or 5 months ago!! And in all fairness to the ziptie's holding ability, it did take getting Pepe completely airborn for it to break off and the trunk to go sliding off... All joking aside though, when it goes back on this time, I'll be wiring it on as well as another ziptie.. CT --- Danny Thompson wrote: > Hey Collin, did you ever get your tail (case) reattatched? :) Remind > > me in the future not to follow you too closely (like there is a > chance > of that....) you never know what may be flying off. > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 15:28:02 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05444 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:27:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513192811.26867.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:28:11 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:28:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: new bike! To: Grant Heffernan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: sv650@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Congrats on the new ride.... I've been lusting after one of them for a while....Not going to happen any time soon for me though :( Racing (if you could call what I do racing....gotta quit crashing!! lol) seems to have a way of destroying all disposable income... Speaking of racing, I noticed in your intro that you mentioned you used to race up north in the LRRS. Any plans on getting back into it?? Lot's of racers on the list these days...And Summit Point tis but an hour or so west of DC... In fact, the 22-23rd is a combined CCS/NASB weekend. Not sure if I'll be racing or not, but I will definitely be out there!! Collin --- Grant Heffernan wrote: > Well, I picked up the new SV today (of course, it's the only day of > the > week thus far that hasn't been gorgeous, but I suppose I should have > expected that). === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 15:28:43 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from defender.fda.gov (defender.fda.gov [198.77.181.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05454 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bambi.cder.fda.gov by defender.fda.gov via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 13 May 1999 19:28:03 UT Received: from royk.cder.fda.gov ("port 2780"@royk.cder.fda.gov [150.148.146.166]) by Mail.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.2-32 #37506) with SMTP id <01JB5JGBN9F495MNDI@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:29:46 -0500 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:29:42 -0400 From: Kirk Roy Subject: Re: Last Saturdays ride In-reply-to: <199905131813.OAA08950@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <4.1.19990513144336.0093e7f0@beta.nova.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" References: <19990513173948.23408.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> >It was a fun ride, I think everyone hit the gravel patch you are talking >about. It was one of my first "squirrelly" experiences on my new >VFR, no fun, but a very exillerating(sp?) Come on, Danny! If nothing else, dirt riding teaches you the need to get on the throttle when things get loose. Get on the throttle and roost anyone who dares follow you too closely! :) Man, I've got to remember to adjust my thinking when I get out on street rides here (it's been awhile)... Somehow, I suspect that sending bunches of gravel at someone following you while on a street ride would meet with something other than, "YOU PUNK!!!" and an attempt at similar retaliation (my brother's reaction). >so I am going to play in the dirt with Kirk Roy and some >others on Sunday. Yeee-Hiiiyyy! Anyone else who's interested in getting out in the dirt is welcome as well. There's a mixture of terrain, from trails so tight a 650 dualsport would be hopeless to wide open dirt roads that allow top speed in sixth gear, some little play/jumping areas, and other stuff. I expect that we'll have some follow the leader and some free play time. So, even if you feel you're slow it's no big deal. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 16:05:07 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06161 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA29023 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513195103.5663.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web307.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:51:03 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:51:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Saturday Ride To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, I think one of Louis' rides would be my first choice, but if something doesn't firm up by tomorrow COB, I can offer to lead that same route from last weekend plus a few other roads... Total mileage from BK back to BK was right around 220 miles... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 16:05:00 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06092 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:04:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29799 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:48:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id PAA22419; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:39:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990513154426.00a67480@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:46:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: sv Cc: sv650@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" One thing I noticed... the front end IS a little on the mushy side. Granted, I don't think I'll have it on the track anytime soon, so I'm not too concerned, and the ride is pretty nice, but 15W fork oil might be in order to help firm things up a little. ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 16:05:41 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06163 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 16:05:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web803.mail.yahoo.com (web803.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.63]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA29042 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 15:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990513194756.10414.rocketmail@web803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web803.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:47:56 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:47:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: FW: Saturday Ride To: "DC Cycles" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Posting this for Tracy... Now y'all know why I won't be going on the Saturday ride... :( Feel free to stop by, have a bite, and cheer me up. Dale (you want fries with that?) >I sent this awhile ago and it has yet to be posted - will you post > this for me? > -----Original Message----- > From: Horstman, Tracy L > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 12:46 PM > To: DC-Cycles > Subject: RE: Saturday Ride > > You all need to find a way into Dale City, though. Girl Scouts Expo '99 > 1pm to 5pm on Dale Blvd. in the commuter parking lot next to the Dairy > Queen in Center Plaza which is located at the intersection of Minnieville > and Dale Blvd. There's going to be a concession stand where we are having > burgers, hot dogs, nachos, chips, drinks - very resonably priced and all > grilled by our one and only Dale Horstman :) (we know he rides a "bug > slayer" - I'll make sure he washes his hands) > > If you are riding though - PLEASE stop by and say hi, buy some food, pick > on Dale - ;-) > > Want to know more about the Expo - > http://www.tidalwave.net/~horstman/expo/expo.html > > What's a ride without stopping to eat ? > === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 17:16:07 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA07435 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-106.s43.as2.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.106]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id RAA00614; Thu, 13 May 1999 17:15:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005101be9d85$fff4d840$6a6daccf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: , "Tom Zell" References: <19990513163056325-bbde36e@fanniemaefoundation.org> Subject: Re: Re[2]: computer 4-sale Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 17:17:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Tom wrote: > Danny... I may have some machines fall into my lap here soon. If it all pans > out I'll keep you in mind. > > Tom That would be great, I know my students (though they would never admit it) really appreciate having the tools they need to do their work without having to share much. (not that sharing is bad... hear that Grant :)?) Thanks, Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 18:14:35 1999 Return-Path: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08583 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00124 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) id <0FBO00H01WINXD@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) with ESMTP id <0FBO00465NJRD2@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 13 May 1999 14:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 13 May 1999 12:46:57 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 12:45:41 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: Saturday Ride To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655EEB@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You all need to find a way into Dale City, though. Girl Scouts Expo '99 1pm to 5pm on Dale Blvd. in the commuter parking lot next to the Dairy Queen in Center Plaza which is located at the intersection of Minnieville and Dale Blvd. There's going to be a concession stand where we are having burgers, hot dogs, nachos, chips, drinks - very resonably priced and all grilled by our one and only Dale Horstman :) (we know he rides a "bug slayer" - I'll make sure he washes his hands) If you are riding though - PLEASE stop by and say hi, buy some food, pick on Dale - ;-) Want to know more about the Expo - http://www.tidalwave.net/~horstman/expo/expo.html What's a ride with stopping to eat ? > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:nighthawk700@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:50 AM > To: DC-Cycles > Subject: Saturday Ride > > > I just confirmed that I will not be needed to work on Saturday. I saw > that > several people wanted to go for a ride, but I didn't see any firm ride > suggestions. I can lead a Poker Run Route that I did a few weeks ago. It > starts at the Capitol Expo Center (Rt. 28, between I-66 and Rt. 50), runs > out > to Front Royal, then ends up in Sterling. About 140 miles on the route. > It > wasn't the most spetacular run I've been on, but it was enjoyable. Would > this > interest people? If not I can dig through my previous runs and find > something > else. > > People who have ridden with me know that I tend to go at a moderate pace. > I'm > not a peg scrapper, and don't play one on T.V. :-) (by the same token, > I'm > not a snail either...) > > E-mail me if you are interested. If there is an interest, I'll send out > directions, meeting time, etc. tonight or tomorrow morning. (I have all > the > info at home, and have a "dinner meeting" with an organization tonight.) > > Louis > > === > Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA > 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 > "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 19:56:08 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA10478 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (207-172-44-96.s96.tnt3.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.44.96]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA22002; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:56:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004a01be9d9c$4e8a5460$602caccf@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "Louis F. Caplan" , "DC-Cycles" References: <19990513144945.15859.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: Saturday Ride Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:57:05 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I'm interested in riding Saturday. However, I would prefer a more challenging ride than what most poker run routes usually offer. Roy D. Turner, Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: Louis F. Caplan To: DC-Cycles Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: Saturday Ride > > I just confirmed that I will not be needed to work on Saturday. I saw that > several people wanted to go for a ride, but I didn't see any firm ride > suggestions. I can lead a Poker Run Route that I did a few weeks ago. It > starts at the Capitol Expo Center (Rt. 28, between I-66 and Rt. 50), runs out > to Front Royal, then ends up in Sterling. About 140 miles on the route. It > wasn't the most spetacular run I've been on, but it was enjoyable. Would this > interest people? If not I can dig through my previous runs and find something > else. > > People who have ridden with me know that I tend to go at a moderate pace. I'm > not a peg scrapper, and don't play one on T.V. :-) (by the same token, I'm > not a snail either...) > > E-mail me if you are interested. If there is an interest, I'll send out > directions, meeting time, etc. tonight or tomorrow morning. (I have all the > info at home, and have a "dinner meeting" with an organization tonight.) > > Louis > > === > Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA > 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 > "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 19:59:54 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA10553 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:59:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (207-172-44-96.s96.tnt3.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.44.96]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA23437; Thu, 13 May 1999 19:59:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007a01be9d9c$d4467980$602caccf@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "Collin T. Fagan" , References: <19990513174354.24142.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: Re:Saturday Ride Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:00:50 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Collin: Appreciate your offer to lead a group. Count me in. Roy D. Turner, Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: Collin T. Fagan To: Sent: Thursday, May 13, 1999 1:43 PM Subject: Re:Saturday Ride > I'd be up for one of Louis' rides as well... I can lead (or just join) > a faster group so that those wanting a quicker pace can have it and > those wishing to see the scenery can do that too, with us all meeting > to invade the lunch stop :) > > ALong those lines, a friend tells me that this weekend is the Wine and > Mushroom (sounds like a disgusting combination) festival is happening > this weekend in Front Royal.. I have no idea how that may affect lunch > if we were to stop there.... > > Also, if we do head in the viscinity of Front Royal, I may break off > early so I can stop off and visit a friend who I haven't seen in a few > months,... > > Collin > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 20:14:09 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo19.mx.aol.com (imo19.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10852 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (8032) by imo19.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nRGMa10989; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <43c7bec8.246cc223@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:02:43 EDT Subject: Re: Saturday Ride To: rdt@XXXXXX, nighthawk700@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/13/99 8:01:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rdt@XXXXXX writes: << I'm interested in riding Saturday. However, I would prefer a more challenging ride than what most poker run routes usually offer. >> Me too. Ciao Fred Vespa 200 Super Sport From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 21:02:11 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11710 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990514010444.19629.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.70.70.164] by web306.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:04:44 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:04:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Formal Ride announcement To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ok, I looked through some of the poker runs I have, especially those I haven't taken a group on yet, and I think this one is actually pretty good. I guess they just mentally get better over time or something. :-) For those of you who want something more challenging than just a "Poker Run" you can either go ahead with Collin leading (I'll pass out directions with corrections) or you might be happier doing something on your own. I believe in a ride your own ride kind of thing, and if that means you going out ahead, that's fine. If there is a large turn out (I didn't get that many people saying they would be interested in going) we'll divide into different groups. I plan on departing from the McDonalds at the entrance to the Capitol Expo Center at 10 am. The ride doesn't really have a lunch location, but I think I know where a good place to find a restaurant will be. We can discuss it at McD's with people who are more familiar with Front Royal. Directions to starting location: >From I-66, take Rt. 28 North. The Capitol Expo Center will be a few miles up on your right. >From the Dulles Toll Road or Rt. 7, take Rt. 28 South. The Capitol Expo Center will be on your left immediately after crossing Rt. 50. When you turn in towards the Capitol Expo Center, there will be a gas station on your right, great time to fill up, and McDonalds will be on your left. Any questions, e-mail me. Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 21:43:29 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA12346 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.39]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.0) with SMTP id ; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:28:48 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Kirk Roy" , Subject: RE: Titling a bike Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:28:54 -0400 Message-ID: <001401be9da9$20eeb020$2880e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990513140624.00933260@beta.nova.org> http://www.its-titles.com/itsprice.htm Much better prices. Good luck. (BTW, haven't dealt with either company) ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > I've been doing some searching for title services to get a title for an > older bike I've got. I managed to find one service > (http://www.thewantads.com/users/titles/Grady.htm) that'll give > you a NH or > AL title with minimal fuss. I'm sure there are lots of others out there. A > yellow pages search for vehicle title companies in NH or AL would > turn most > of them up... It turns out that the cost isn't worth it for the bike I've > got but maybe someone else out there could benefit. > > Kirk > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 21:57:08 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA12625 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 21:57:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990514015942.26944.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [151.200.117.90] by web306.yahoomail.com; Thu, 13 May 1999 18:59:42 PDT Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:59:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Formal Ride announcement - Sat To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Forgot to say, this is for Saturday, the 15th. --- "Louis F. Caplan" wrote: > > Ok, I looked through some of the poker runs I have, especially those I > haven't > taken a group on yet, and I think this one is actually pretty good. I guess > they just mentally get better over time or something. :-) > > For those of you who want something more challenging than just a "Poker Run" > you can either go ahead with Collin leading (I'll pass out directions with > corrections) or you might be happier doing something on your own. I believe > in > a ride your own ride kind of thing, and if that means you going out ahead, > that's fine. If there is a large turn out (I didn't get that many people > saying they would be interested in going) we'll divide into different groups. > > > I plan on departing from the McDonalds at the entrance to the Capitol Expo > Center at 10 am. The ride doesn't really have a lunch location, but I think > I > know where a good place to find a restaurant will be. We can discuss it at > McD's with people who are more familiar with Front Royal. > > Directions to starting location: > > From I-66, take Rt. 28 North. The Capitol Expo Center will be a few miles up > on your right. > > From the Dulles Toll Road or Rt. 7, take Rt. 28 South. The Capitol Expo > Center > will be on your left immediately after crossing Rt. 50. > > When you turn in towards the Capitol Expo Center, there will be a gas station > on your right, great time to fill up, and McDonalds will be on your left. > > Any questions, e-mail me. > > Louis > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 13 23:17:05 1999 Return-Path: fwegerich@XXXXXX Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA13996 for ; Thu, 13 May 1999 23:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earthlink.net (ip182.leesburg4.va.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.171.182]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11679; Thu, 13 May 1999 20:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <373B9612.A6045A16@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 23:18:43 -0400 From: Frank Wegerich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Collin T. Fagan" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Last Saturdays ride References: <19990513173948.23408.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Collin: I was one of the two which got lost at the end .... No problem once we actually figured out that you guys must have made a turn somewhere... (-: Thanks for the ride, my wife and I enjoyed it!. Frank - BMW RT1100 Collin T. Fagan wrote: > Just got back into town last night and slowly catching up with mail.... > > Hope everyone enjoyed the ride last Saturday... Although the weather > looked nasty before we headed out, it turned into a very nice day. > I really enjoyed that loop... been on all those roads numerous times, > but never in quite that order... very little slab sections that way and > very little repetition of roads.... definitely will have to do it again > sometime..... > > Although, I would have been jsut as happy skipping that (what felt > like) 2 foot horizontal slide in that gravel patch on Milltown road. > Apparently, it looked impressive to those who saw it, but it sure > wasn't fun in the riders seat... > > A super big apology to the two riders that we lost at the turn off from > evergreen mill road. I thought everyone was right with us as we made > that turn, and I kept on going. Hope you found your way back OK once > you got to 659. Please don't hate me :) It wasn't on purpose! > > Collin > > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 00:19:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15565 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11644 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:18:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA24590 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA28613 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:18:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (7813) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dOGAa04194 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:17:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <84128372.246cfdbf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:17:03 EDT Subject: CBRXX Blackbird....POLICE EDITION!?!?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 This floated across the CBR list the other day....I want one. I want one BAD. License to SPEED, BABY! http://www.manor.org/cbr/ -Sean Jordan '93 CBR1000F From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 00:23:30 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15644 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:23:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-49.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.49]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA31155 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:23:27 -0400 Message-ID: <011801be9dc1$6573f620$53a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Careful. No MC content but may cause crash and burn Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:22:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 >From the Vulcan list -- >Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which >produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very >little, which made him rather frail and with his odd diet, he suffered from >bad breath. > This made him what? > > > > > > > >This is good ... > > > > > > > >A super callused fragil mystic plagued with halitosis. >Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!!!!!!! > Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> cough, choke, backfire Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 00:29:47 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15730 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-49.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.49]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA31292; Fri, 14 May 1999 00:29:44 -0400 Message-ID: <011d01be9dc2$460065c0$53a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: , "Chris Norloff" Subject: Re: DC Law - only 4 hr. motorcycle parking Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:28:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Great. MC'ists need to be counted by the new administration. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> Didn't ask for my vote for 4 hrs. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Norloff >According to the May/June issue of Winding Road Motorcycle Times, the >reason DC has changed their motorcycle parking meters down to a 4 hr. limit >is they passed a regulation to do so! > >(This reminds me of watching Congress - things can be going to hell, and >they'll spend time renaming an airport, for example.) > >WRMT gives the DC mayor's address-- >Mayor Anthony Williams >One Judiciary Square >441 Fourth St. NW >Washington, DC 20001 > >Perhaps mention that motorcycles are space and fuel efficient vehicles that >do not cause gridlock. DC should encourage motorcycles, not discourage them. > >Chris Norloff > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 06:41:28 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo27.mx.aol.com (imo27.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA22976 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 06:41:14 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX (14425) by imo27.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id rTUUa05050; Fri, 14 May 1999 06:40:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6a39fdbf.246d5787@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 06:40:07 EDT Subject: Re: Formal Ride announcement To: nighthawk700@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 In Front Royal stop at Sandy's Diner. Good folks, food , and atmosphere From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 06:47:58 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA23134 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 06:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990514105038.21397.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web308.yahoomail.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 03:50:38 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 03:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Formal Ride announcement To: McKeithen@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- McKeithen@XXXXXX wrote: > In Front Royal stop at Sandy's Diner. Good folks, food , and atmosphere Where in Front Royal is Sandy's Diner? The route we take comes from the south, goes north on Zachery Taylor Highway, to Front Royal, then East on Rt. 55. Would we be near the diner? Anyone else know of someplace good to stop along that route? Worse comes to worse, I think there was a KFC or some fast food place. Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 07:07:44 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA23454 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:07:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-110.s47.as2.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.110]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA21998 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:07:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001b01be9dfa$579dd960$6e4daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Is it July yet! Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:10:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Just a quik MidOhio update. Tickets are ordered and room is reserved. I'll be caging it to the race and Danny T will be riding up. Danny thought his wife would go but she decided not to. Has anyone else decided to go to the Ohio races in July? I ended up booking a room in Mount Vernon Ohio at a Super 8. It's about 25 mile from the track. (Closest room I could find) Hopefully I will see some of you on Saturday (if dog sitting doesn't interfere) See ya, Brian N 96, Yamaha FZR600 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 07:19:23 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA23665 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:19:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 14 May 1999 04:18:42 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Is it July yet! Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 04:18:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I'm looking at riding out - I have a few friends that should be there (and, a place for me to crash for free too.. :). I'll know more as time progresses.. obviously, if my wrist isn't healed, I won't be riding (might you have space for a passenger Brian?) Brian M From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 07:32:22 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24051 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id HAA21586 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990514073151.00a6fb50@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:33:05 -0400 To: DC-Cycles From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: Formal Ride announcement In-Reply-To: <19990514010444.19629.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So are we taking a roll call or something now?:) 10am at the Mickey D's across from the Expo center... I'll be there. At 06:04 PM 5/13/99 -0700, Louis F. Caplan wrote: > >Ok, I looked through some of the poker runs I have, especially those I haven't >taken a group on yet, and I think this one is actually pretty good. I guess >they just mentally get better over time or something. :-) > >For those of you who want something more challenging than just a "Poker Run" >you can either go ahead with Collin leading (I'll pass out directions with >corrections) or you might be happier doing something on your own. I believe in >a ride your own ride kind of thing, and if that means you going out ahead, >that's fine. If there is a large turn out (I didn't get that many people >saying they would be interested in going) we'll divide into different groups. > >I plan on departing from the McDonalds at the entrance to the Capitol Expo >Center at 10 am. The ride doesn't really have a lunch location, but I think I >know where a good place to find a restaurant will be. We can discuss it at >McD's with people who are more familiar with Front Royal. > >Directions to starting location: > >From I-66, take Rt. 28 North. The Capitol Expo Center will be a few miles up >on your right. > >From the Dulles Toll Road or Rt. 7, take Rt. 28 South. The Capitol Expo Center >will be on your left immediately after crossing Rt. 50. > >When you turn in towards the Capitol Expo Center, there will be a gas station >on your right, great time to fill up, and McDonalds will be on your left. > >Any questions, e-mail me. > >Louis > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 07:35:41 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24207 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:35:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:35:03 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Subject: Avoid Deal's Gap this weekend Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:34:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain No, not another urban legend about "police ticketing all motorcyclists" or "they're digging a tunnel" Just a FWIW from a guy who lives nearby in Tellico Plains Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 18:06:49 GMT From: Jack Subject: Avoid Deal's Gap this weekend US 441 across the Smoky Mountains park is closed due to a rock slide near Newfound Gap. Through traffic from Gatlinburg to Cherokee is advised to take the Foothills Parkway and 129, or I-40 north of the park. Conventional "gap blasting" would be very risky this weekend with all the extra cars and motor homes. 441 from Gatlinburg to Clingman's Dome (the top of the mountain peaks) is still open. A 14-mile section from Newfound Gap to Cherokee is closed. Officials expect to have the road re-opened next week. The full story is in the Knoxville News Sentinel at http://www.knoxnews.com/news/18666.shtml and a map showing the position of the slide and alternate routes at http://www.knoxnews.com/art/news/1999/05/0513detour.gif From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 07:53:28 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA24758 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:53:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990514115437.18333.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web303.yahoomail.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 04:54:37 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 04:54:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Formal Ride announcement To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Grant Heffernan wrote: > So are we taking a roll call or something now?:) > 10am at the Mickey D's across from the Expo center... I'll be there. I don't think we need a formal, on list roll call, but if people e-mail me directly before 2:45 pm today to let me know they are interested, I can try to be sure I have enough set of directions with me. Sometimes I have way too many, and sometimes not enough. Right now I have 10, but can make more. For those of you who haven't met me yet (there are a few new to the list) I'll be on the green (black if not in direct sunlight) Kawasaki Concours, with a blue Aerostich jacket. If I'm not wearing the jacket in McD's, just look for the guy with hearing aids. :-) Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 08:24:31 1999 Return-Path: ewhinger1@XXXXXX Received: from m20.boston.juno.com (m20.boston.juno.com [205.231.101.190]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA25789 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:24:10 -0400 (EDT) From: ewhinger1@XXXXXX Received: (from ewhinger1@XXXXXX) by m20.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id EAK2BUFE; Fri, 14 May 1999 08:22:40 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:20:03 EDT Subject: Intro Message-ID: <19990514.082004.42.1.ewhinger1@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1,5,9,11,15,17-22 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I subscribed to the list a few weeks back and neglected to intro myself. I currently have a 97 Kaw Concours and have met Dale, his wife, and Louis through COG and CAMS (ya gotta love these TLA's). I have been riding for over 25 years on a variety of brands, Hodaka (Combat Wombat), Kawasaki, Suzuki, BMW.... I'm a moderate pace rider with an occasional burst of speed. We've (wife and 2 offspring) have been in N. Va. for a little over 5 years after spending a year in Dallas, and 6 1/2 long years in New Jersey. I'm originally from Pa., and arrived in NJ via California (2 yrs.) and Illinois (1yr.). I have been working for Mobil Oil for a little over 13 years and they were kinf enough to 'sponsor' our journeys from NJ to TX to VA. I really enjoy the riding in this area, it has some of the best roads that I've ever come across. Calf. may have some REALLY nice roads, but they are a major PIA to get to and overly crowded. I am looking forward to having a free weekend, sometime in my life, and getting together with the group to do some riding. Emmett W. Hinger Centreville VA. COG AMA ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 09:13:00 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26641 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:12:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgpea09646; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:12:43 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256771.0048F7D2 ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:17:00 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Louis F. Caplan" cc: DC-Cycles Message-ID: <85256771.0048F64F.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:05:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Formal Ride announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Thomas & I will be there, as well, but I'm confused...have we changed the meeting place? Are we not meeting at the Capital Expo Center now? Let me know & we'll be there! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Louis F. Caplan" on 05/14/99 07:54:37 AM To: DC-Cycles cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: Formal Ride announcement --- Grant Heffernan wrote: > So are we taking a roll call or something now?:) > 10am at the Mickey D's across from the Expo center... I'll be there. I don't think we need a formal, on list roll call, but if people e-mail me directly before 2:45 pm today to let me know they are interested, I can try to be sure I have enough set of directions with me. Sometimes I have way too many, and sometimes not enough. Right now I have 10, but can make more. For those of you who haven't met me yet (there are a few new to the list) I'll be on the green (black if not in direct sunlight) Kawasaki Concours, with a blue Aerostich jacket. If I'm not wearing the jacket in McD's, just look for the guy with hearing aids. :-) Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 09:15:50 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26728 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:15:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 371; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:15:40 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990514091446.01377d80@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:15:38 -0400 To: "mobacc" , "Dc Cycles" From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Careful. No MC content but may cause crash and burn In-Reply-To: <011801be9dc1$6573f620$53a4fccd@newmicronpc> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I guess the reason jokes don't do well on big lists like this is 'cause thats like the 20th copy of that joke I have gotten. What is new to some is old to many in the email world. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 Former '91 Nighthawk Owner ;-) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. Even if they aren't, it is fun to try. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 09:32:41 1999 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from stmpy.cais.net (stmpy.cais.net [199.0.216.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26973 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wowbager (dynamic65.cais.com [207.226.56.65]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA29447 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:46:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990514092848.006c72d8@mail.dc.net> X-Sender: wowbager@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:28:48 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike Subject: Re: CBRXX Blackbird....POLICE EDITION!?!?? In-Reply-To: <84128372.246cfdbf@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Can you say... "Hot Pursuit!!"? I knew you could. Mike B. 98 ZX900R At 12:17 AM 5/14/99 EDT, you wrote: >This floated across the CBR list the other day....I want one. I want one BAD. >License to SPEED, BABY! > >http://www.manor.org/cbr/ > >-Sean Jordan >'93 CBR1000F > > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 09:43:26 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27149 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:43:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:42:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Subject: From another list... Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:42:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: IVAN_THELIN@XXXXXX "EVERYBODY'S FREE" (to wear leather) Custom modifications by Team Obnoxious, 5/11/99 Ladies and Gentlemen .....wear Leather. If I could offer you only one tip for improving your life, leather would be it. The long term benefits of leather have been proved by serious bikers over many highways and many years, whereas wearing something unreliable like shorts and flipflops means you will experience a trip to the emergency room. There, uncaring nurses will scrub gravel out of your wounds, and doctors will dispense ineffective painkillers and meaningless advice... like telling you to trade that "murdercycle" in for a Camry. Bullshit. I will dispense some real advice right now: Enjoy the power and beauty of your ride; If you don't already; you can fully enjoy it by doing block-long smokey burnouts in the parking lot at the local drive-in. Trust me, in 20 years you'll look back at the photos of you and your pals on your bikes and recall in a way you can't grasp now how much fun you had and how fabulous you really looked hauling ass down the highway dressed in leather. Leather is as sexy as you imagine. Don't worry about what your Mom thinks; or worry, but know that worrying about what other people think is as effective as trying to scratch your nose in a blinding hailstorm at 80 m.p.h. with a full- face helmet and winter gloves on. The real troubles in your life are apt to be Volvo stationwagons, driven by some dipstick talking into his cell phone or doing her makeup; the kind that blindside you at 4 PM on some urban roadway and then claim you crashed into THEM. Do one thing everyday that scares other drivers... Lanesplit. Sing into your helmet. Use mouthwash first. Don't be reckless with other people's bikes, especially if you don't have insurance. Don't put up with people who mess with yours.... in fact, beat them with a chain. Ride Fast. Don't waste your money on chrome, or fancy paintjobs; spend it on racing or partying. Sometimes you're fast, sometimes you're slow. Sometimes you're hungover. The ride is long, and in the end, a cold beer tastes pretty damn good. Remember the good rides you've had, forget the cuts and bruises; try to wear out the sides of your tires before the middle.... if you succeed in doing this, tell me how. Keep your oil changed, throw away old traffic citations. Take chances. Don't feel guilty if you ride faster than the posted limit ...the most interesting people I know didn't know at 22 how to ride conservatively, all the most interesting 40 year olds I know still don't. Get plenty of saddle time. Be kind to your passengers, you'll miss them if they fall off. Maybe you'll crash, maybe you won't, maybe you'll have surgery, maybe you won't, maybe you'll ride a cruiser off a cliff doing 40, maybe you'll get a new motocrosser for your 75th birthday ...whatever you ride, don't congratulate yourself too much - your choices are 90% foreign,10% domestic, so are everyone else's. Enjoy your bike, use it every way you can...don't be afraid of it, or what other people think of it, it's the greatest instrument of pleasure you'll ever own, not counting porn sites and a fast modem. Wrench... even if you have nowhere to do it but in your hotel room. Read the owner's manual, even tho' you won't remember any of it. Do not read American motorcycle magazines, they will only make you wish you'd bought a British one instead. Get to know your brake pads, you never know when they'll be gone for good. Be nice to your tires; they are your link to the pavement and the things most likely to save your butt from a nasty highside. Understand that mechanics comes and mechanics go, but for a precious talented few you should pay them well and buy them sixpacks. Work hard to bridge the gaps in geography and lifestyle because the older your bike gets, the more you'll need the mechanic who worked on it when it was young and still not paid off. Ride in New York City once, but leave before you get killed; ride in Northern California whenever possible, but leave a plausible excuse whan calling in sick for work. Do lurid wheelies. Accept certain inalienable truths: prices will rise, traffic will get worse, you too will get old, and when you do you'll fantasize that when you were young, gasoline was cheap, the highway patrol couldn't catch you, and Harley owners weren't all yuppies. Respect your rev-limiter. Don't expect anyone else to see your bike unless it has really loud pipes. Maybe your bike has a big gas tank, maybe a smaller one; but remember, either way you'll have to make bathroom stops. Don't mess too much with your carburetors, or by the time your done, you'll be walking home. Be careful whose advice you buy, and save your receipts. Don't take advice from those who supply it for free, especially if they own a Britbike. Motorcycle restoration is a form of self-torture. Doing it is a way of pulling the past from the dustbin, degreasing it, painting over the rusty parts and dumping way more money into it than it's worth. But trust me on the leather... From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 09:53:13 1999 Return-Path: ml_gupta@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f46.hotmail.com [207.82.250.57]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA27355 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 09:53:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 58485 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 1999 13:52:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19990514135239.58484.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 166.96.254.3 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Fri, 14 May 1999 06:52:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [166.96.254.3] From: "manish gupta" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Hello - New to list Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:52:38 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Hello, There seems to be really interesting and meaningfull/meaningless stuff going on this list, congratulations to "human" behind this list. Well my name is Manish Gupta, recently joined this list, as a matter of fact I bought a brand new bike for myself last week (Suzuki Savage LS650, having less power on highways, but ok for me for time being I think), got my Motorcycle drivers license last week (Had to go through knowledge and skills test once again in my life for M/cyl license). Well as far as my motrocycle experience go, I started riding bike/scooter at the age of 14, my first bike was Kawasaki RTZ 100, after that I bought 1978 JAWA 250 (I don't think anybody might've heard about this). >From the day I came to US of A I was toying with the idea of buying a bike, finally I materialized it .. Yahooooooo.. OK guys, see you around, keep me posted about upcoming group rides. Regards Manish Gupta (202) 693 4336 (W) (703) 893 9449 (H) God loves common man .... that's why he made so many of them...... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 10:10:02 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27672 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990514141015.3460.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.17.73] by web304.yahoomail.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 07:10:15 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:10:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Formal Ride announcement To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Thomas & I will be there, as well, but I'm confused...have we changed the > meeting place? Are we not meeting at the Capital Expo Center now? Let me > know & we'll be there! The location hasn't changed. When you go to the Capitol Expo Center, there is a long driveway (really a road, but only goes to the Expo Center). The McDonald's and a gas station (and a Wendy's and some other junk) are along the driveway. If you follow the signs to the Capitol Expo Center, you should see what I mean. I just figured McD's would be a better place to gather since people can go inside and fuel up if they need to. Plus if there is a show at the Expo Center, the parking lot tends to fill up rather quickly, and a lot of brain dead pedestrians try to play "Frogger" for real. And as usual, I'll probably be there ridiculously early and try to leave my bike where it will be clearly seen by approaching riders. Louis _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 10:52:18 1999 Return-Path: tracy.l.horstman@XXXXXX Received: from mailgw2a.lmco.com (mailgw2a.lmco.com [192.91.147.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28497 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:52:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss03g01.ems.lmco.com (emss03g01.orl.lmco.com [141.240.4.144]) by mailgw2a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11310; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:52:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) id <0FBQ0000199N6C@XXXXXX>; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emss09m01.ems.lmco.com ([158.183.24.5]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37335) with ESMTP id <0FBQ008Z199IWT@XXXXXX>; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:51:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by emss09m01.ems.lmco.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:52:32 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:51:14 -0400 From: "Horstman, Tracy L" Subject: RE: Hello - New to list To: "'manish gupta'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <338D0ADBA3E3D111BE170000F81E4D5A01655EFC@emss09m05.ems.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You're not the only one on this list with a Savage - mine's a '87 though - I've been beating it pretty good. Hope you like yours. Tracy Horstman '87 Suzuki Savage '98 Kawasaki Concours (ours) > -----Original Message----- > From: manish gupta [SMTP:ml_gupta@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 9:53 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Hello - New to list > > Hello, > > There seems to be really interesting and meaningfull/meaningless stuff > going > on this list, congratulations to "human" behind this list. > > Well my name is Manish Gupta, recently joined this list, as a matter of > fact > I bought a brand new bike for myself last week (Suzuki Savage LS650, > having > less power on highways, but ok for me for time being I think), got my > Motorcycle drivers license last week (Had to go through knowledge and > skills > test once again in my life for M/cyl license). > > Well as far as my motrocycle experience go, I started riding bike/scooter > at > the age of 14, my first bike was Kawasaki RTZ 100, after that I bought > 1978 > JAWA 250 (I don't think anybody might've heard about this). > > From the day I came to US of A I was toying with the idea of buying a > bike, > finally I materialized it .. Yahooooooo.. > > OK guys, see you around, keep me posted about upcoming group rides. > > Regards > > Manish Gupta > > (202) 693 4336 (W) > (703) 893 9449 (H) > > God loves common man .... that's why he made so many of them...... > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 11:23:48 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29069 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:23:46 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLMHJC; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:23:48 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7LVLA; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:23:48 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256771.0054921D ; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:23:44 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: thunderaclist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256771.00526B8C.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:21:44 -0400 Subject: For Sale - Black Alpine Lead Boots I've owned these for less than a year & they probably have 2500 miles on them. Slightly scuffed but polished. Size (9). Very comfortable riding/walking boots. Shin & ankle protector built in. Selling because I'm buying a another pair to match my Power Ranger suit. Retail - $142 + shipping $90 OBO Thanks, DJ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 13:07:46 1999 Return-Path: mehran7@XXXXXX Received: from web118.yahoomail.com (web118.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01162 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:07:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990514171003.14953.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.49.117.150] by web118.yahoomail.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 10:10:03 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:10:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mehran Subject: Kawasaki Ninja 250 For Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 1994 Kawasaki Ninja 250 All Stock. About 6,000 miles. Black. New tires. Excellent Condition. Helmet included. $2200 Call or send an e-mail for more info and a picture. Max @ 202-438-1330 mehran7@XXXXXX _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 13:32:12 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA01621 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLM22T; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:32:11 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7LXYY; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:32:11 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256771.0060536C ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:32:08 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256771.005FCEE8.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:30:06 -0400 Subject: Chris's Road Trip Hey Chris, I like the sound of that ride. Maybe a bunch of us can get together in June & experience that ride like you did. I'm jealous. DJ 97' YZF1000R aka "Faith" From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 13:46:21 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA01910 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:46:20 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA25879; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:47:19 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa24992; Fri, 14 May 99 13:45:56 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBQ00GW9HF6UL@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:47:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256771.0061609E ; Fri, 14 May 1999 13:43:37 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:37:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Chris's Road Trip To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256771.00623A6E.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL DJ wrote: I like the sound of that ride. Maybe a bunch of us can get together in June & experience that ride like you did. I'm jealous. --- Yeah, sure. It might make a good group trip. The only problem, I would say, is that the speeds on Skyline Dr. are pretty slow unless you feel like risking a ticket. If the group wanted a fairly relaxed ride, though, it wouldn't matter. There ARE terrific views from up there. The group could stop at Luray Caverns if they wanted to also, since it's on the route I took. Others probably know of some other good roads back there too. Chris Weaver 98 VTR 1000 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 14:25:17 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (web805.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02719 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990514183002.23716.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 11:30:01 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Intro To: ewhinger1@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Again, Emmett! Whereabouts in PA are you from? I'm from Mercer. If you've heard of it you were probably close by. The running joke around here is PA is a good state to be from, FAR from! :) Dale --- ewhinger1@XXXXXX wrote: > I subscribed to the list a few weeks back and neglected to intro > myself. > I currently have a 97 Kaw Concours and have met > Dale, his wife, and Louis through COG and CAMS (ya gotta love these > TLA's). I have been riding for over 25 years on a variety of brands, I'm originally from Pa. === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 15:35:40 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay03.mcit.com (omzrelay03.mcit.com [199.249.19.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04181 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:35:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37789) with ESMTP id <0FBQ007LFIMFI3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:13:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta04.mcit.com (omzmta04.mcit.com [166.37.194.122]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA23767; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:10:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta04.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990514181326.LCCM18591@toddnt>; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:13:26 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:10:46 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Kawasaki Ninja 250 For Sale In-reply-to: <19990514171003.14953.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> To: Mehran , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <001e01be9e35$1693e8c0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Aren't you the same guy that wanted $13,500 for an R1? $2200 is just a tad high for this bike, but good luck. Todd > > 1994 Kawasaki Ninja 250 > All Stock. About 6,000 miles. Black. > New tires. Excellent Condition. Helmet included. > $2200 > > Call or send an e-mail for more info and a picture. > > Max @ 202-438-1330 > mehran7@XXXXXX > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 15:38:30 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04201 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22596 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:38:26 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA11625 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09321 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:38:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id PAA06431; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905141938.PAA06431@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: CBRXX Blackbird....POLICE EDITION!?!?? To: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <84128372.246cfdbf@aol.com> from "Eternity23@aol.com" at May 14, 99 00:17:03 am Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > This floated across the CBR list the other day....I want one. I want one BAD. > License to SPEED, BABY! > Move to Sveden, and join local enforcement. You may got lucky... > http://www.manor.org/cbr/ > > -Sean Jordan > '93 CBR1000F > _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 15:47:22 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web804.mail.yahoo.com (web804.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA04417 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990514195226.26280.rocketmail@web804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web804.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 12:52:26 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:52:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: RE: Kawasaki Ninja 250 For Sale To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii And it doesn't even come with the special limited edition John Deere paint job. Hmph! :) Dale --- Todd Peer wrote: > $2200 is just a tad high for this bike, but good luck. > > Todd > > 1994 Kawasaki Ninja 250 > > All Stock. About 6,000 miles. Black. > > New tires. Excellent Condition. Helmet included. > > $2200 === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 17:22:12 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06437 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990514213227.8070.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.59.4] by web305.yahoomail.com; Fri, 14 May 1999 14:32:27 PDT Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:32:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Chris's Road Trip To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes, there's a few other routes that bypass Skyline Drive. After the personal harrassment (65 miles worth) that I received (and yes, for once I was actually doing the speed limit for a change) and all the similar horror stories I've heard from others, I will never put another wheel on that stretch of pavement. A shame too, since it's a nice ride, but there are plenty of other places that are just as good, FREE, and a lot fewer overzealous cops....but I digress... I'll try to organize up a nice long route some weekend in June between races and before I head out to Michigan... it'll be a long one though... Collin --- christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > DJ wrote: > I like the sound of that ride. Maybe a bunch of us can get together > in June > & experience that ride like you did. I'm jealous. > --- > > Yeah, sure. It might make a good group trip Others probably know of some other good roads back there too. === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 17:47:53 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA06860 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:47:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id RAA04868; Fri, 14 May 1999 17:50:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:50:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: more free parts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII KZ-440 motor, no top end, condition unknown. KZ-440 exhaust, shocks, "chain"guard (belt drive). GS-300 exhaust (good condition). The missing interceptor top end (unless it's from another bike). More later. --garcia From dc-cycles-request Fri May 14 23:19:14 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA12308 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-88.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.88]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA11824 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:19:06 -0400 Message-ID: <032c01be9e81$92803c80$53a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Fw: Interesting web site Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:18:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This from another list may be new to some. Looked like it could be valuable. >It's call Motorcycle Memories...check it out... >www.motorcyclememories.com Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> good quality, not yet quantity, memories Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 00:05:27 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13128 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA03991 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:42:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA28614 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:41:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.wch.adelphia.net (alpha.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA23852 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:41:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gforeman (surf187.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.187]) by alpha.wch.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA16382 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:41:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary Foreman" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Anyone Riding a '99 TL1000R here? I may be getting one this week. Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:41:35 -0400 Message-ID: <002301be9e84$d47a2940$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Let me know how you like it. Any maintenance problems? Getting it for $8600 new out the door I'm still keeping the FJ though. Gary W. Foreman EMAIL: gforeman@XXXXXX WEB: http://www.fj1100.com `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´ A SUPERIOR Pilot may be defined as one who stays out of trouble by using his SUPERIOR Judgement to AVOID the situations which might require the use of his SUPERIOR Skills. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 00:14:17 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13207 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id AAA26921; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:14:03 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:14:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: Brian N cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Is it July yet! In-Reply-To: <001b01be9dfa$579dd960$6e4daccf@brn626> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 00:21:54 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA13363 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id AAA26930; Sat, 15 May 1999 00:21:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 00:21:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: Brian N cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Is it July yet! In-Reply-To: <001b01be9dfa$579dd960$6e4daccf@brn626> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey! Well, I finally got around to making plans... have booked a room in the same motel as yourself after having no luck closer in - thanks for the info. They're three of us going out on bikes, maybe one more in a cage to provide support (i.e. carry our stuff). If your friend wants to drop me a line via email or phone (w 703-265-5954) to ride out with us he's more than welcome, as well as anyone else here on the list who wants to go. We're going to ride out on Thurs the 15th during the day, and come back on Mon the 19th. We're thinking of bringing tents and trying to get camping space at the track if it's nice warm weather... the room will be a backup plan or if one of us wants to sleep on a bed one night. - Brian Roach From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 06:43:48 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA23626 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:43:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0181.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.213]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id GAA14619 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 06:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373D7B67.6EFE@mnsinc.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 06:49:27 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Ducati in the News (long) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey DC Guys and Gals, This morning's NYT brought this article about Italian forays into the US market. Here's the URL, which may require (free) registration: http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/financial/italy-motorbike.html The article follows here: May 15, 1999 Ducati, Italy's Top Motorcycle Maker, Seeks Niche in the U.S. By JOHN TAGLIABUE BOLOGNA, Italy -- Federico Minoli is not sure if he is selling a luxury accessory, a style of life or a means of transportation. It is probably a bit of all three, for Minoli is the new president and chief executive of Ducati S.p.A., the renowned Italian motorcycle maker. And while sales of Ducati's two-wheelers are booming in Europe, where clogged cities welcome anything with fewer than four wheels, Ducati and the builders of other Italian motorcycle classics are casting their net farther afield. Lifting a chapter from the textbook of Italian luxury icons like Gucci and Bulgari and melding it with the profitable formula Harley-Davidson used to create an image out of a pair of wheels, these companies are looking to global markets, notably the United States. "It's a business opportunity," said Minoli, who favors jeans and sweaters over ties and suits, "twinned with passion and image." The Italian drive lifts the spirits of executives in the industry, which boasts a long tradition of making spirited two-wheelers, but whose lack of marketing skill and financial savvy has nearly caused some venerable brands to disappear. The potential for profit in tapping other markets has not escaped American investors. Last year, the Trident Rowan Group in New York bought out Moto Guzzi S.p.A., another motorcycle maker, and took it public this March. Earlier, Texas Pacific Group, based in Fort Worth, acquired Ducati, which it subsequently took public on the New York Stock Exchange [Ducati's American depository receipts have been flat since they began trading between $31 and $32 nearly two months ago. On Friday, the A.D.R.'s, each representing 10 common shares, closed at $29.75.] And stock market analysts remain wary. "It's a tough market to get into," said Robert Mescal, who follows initial public offerings at the Institute for Econometric Research in Deerfield Park, Fla. "You're looking at big bucks to get started, and the Japanese and the Americans are not going to give up easily." Admittedly, Italy has just a sliver of the American market, and little hope of taking any significant share from Japanese giants like Honda and Yamaha, which have parlayed a mix of low-cost manufacturing and high-technology innovation into market dominance. But motorcycle sales are booming again, as baby boomers who flirted with the open road in the 1960's now have the income and the time to don helmets. So Italian companies like Ducati, whose $263 million of revenues make it the nation's leader, as well as Moto Guzzi, Cagiva and Aprilia, are faring better in Europe and hope to carve off a little of the upper end of the market in the United States. With a wave of sexy new models, they are seeking to exploit the cachet of all things Italian, promoting their bikes as two-wheel Ferraris or the highway equivalent of a Gucci loafer or Versace scarf. Ducati, copying Harley, is opening motorcycle shops, with apparel sections and espresso bars, in the United States. The Italian crusade got a lift last year when the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum in New York included 21 Italian motorcycles, from a 1924 Guzzi to several 1990's Ducatis, in its wildly successful motorcycle show. "The Italians bring design excellence to everything they do," said Ultan Guilfoyle, deputy curator of the Guggenheim exhibit. "And that is very apparent in their motorcycles." Yet Ducati, he added, provides a textbook case of how brilliant Italian design is often undercut by poor management. In 1996, Texas Pacific took control of Ducati from Claudio and Gianfranco Castiglioni, brothers who amassed a fortune selling zippers, then sank it into their real passion -- motorcycles. The Castiglionis acquired Ducati, then nearly bankrupt, in 1983 from the Italian Government, which had bought it in the 1950's from the founding Ducati family. Despite Ducati's reputation for design and technical innovation, the Castiglionis left the company without a sales organization or strategy and bled it financially by siphoning profits to other projects. "We saw a great brand and a great product, a great factory, but no business around it," said Abel Halpern, a London-based financier who scouts European investment opportunities for Texas Pacific. "The hard part had already been done. The easy part was to design a business system around it." To do so, Ducati bought business talent. Minoli, 49, a former Procter & Gamble and Playtex executive with long marketing experience on both sides of the Atlantic, was hired from Bain & Company, the consultants who worked with Texas Pacific before the Ducati purchase. To create a marketing campaign, Ducati hired Kristin Schelter, a former Hill & Knowlton executive who had worked on the Bulgari account. David M. Gross, a former journalist and Harvard-educated lawyer who is Ducati's director of strategic planning, said the advertising budget, at about $5 million, was meager. But by piggybacking onto big spenders, Ducati makes the ad dollars go further. Neiman Marcus has included Ducatis in its men's catalogue, and Donna Karan New York is outfitting the Ducati racing team. "Now people are coming to us," Gross said. Ducati's New York flagship store, at 11th Avenue and 43d Street, cost about $250,000, also a shoestring operation. The efforts are beginning to pay off, at least modestly. In the first quarter, Ducati increased sales 13 percent, to $74 million; motorcycle shipments to the United States rose 26 percent, to 1,541. If imitation is the purest form of flattery, Ducati is not lacking in compliments. The new owners are also reinventing Moto Guzzi, hiring this year as chief executive Mario Scandellari, a former Ducati manager, and bringing in a nine-year Yamaha veteran, Nicola Poggio, as chief of sales. In the United States, another Yamaha manager, John Porter, was lured away to spearhead Guzzi's drive there. To revive the American market, this year Guzzi will begin a fast, aggressive model called the Jackal, to sell for about $7,900. Last year, Guzzi sold 651 bikes in the United States, up from 401 in 1997. "The Italians are good at interpreting life styles," Poggio said. "If I have to eat, I try to eat well; if I have to wear a watch, I try to wear a beautiful watch." Others are following suit. Aprilia S.p.A. recently rolled out a new flagship for the United States, the RSV Mille. "The people who rode bikes in the 60's and 70's are now earning higher salaries," said Mark Wilhelm, a former Ingersoll-Rand executive who is Aprilia's marketing manager for the United States. "The kids are gone; they have more time and disposable income." Italjet S.p.A., which produced motorcycling classics in the 1970's before bailing out to focus on scooters, is re-entering the fray with an aggressive new bike that will be tested in racing before full production begins in 2001. "We're returning to our past," said Leopoldo Tartarini, Italjet's president and a leading Italian motorcycle designer. "The European motorcycle is still made with heart; it's still endowed with human qualities." In a swipe at the Japanese, he added, "When something is too perfect, you tire of it." If Harley-Davidson, with its lumbering cruisers, is the Cadillac of motorcycles, and Honda and Yamaha are, well, the Honda and Toyota, the Italians want to become the Ferraris and Porsches. Glenn Brieton buys that. "People who own them, love them," said Brieton, an audiovisual systems specialist from Lake George, N.Y., who owns two Guzzis. He became hooked on Italian motorcycles, he explained, while serving in the American Army in Italy, and bought his first Guzzi secondhand in 1989 for less than $2,000. Five years later, he picked up a second. "One of the appealing factors for a guy like me," he said, "is that they go up in value." A 1970's Guzzi in mint condition can fetch $20,000 or more. But, he added, "mainly, it's the way to go to be a little bit different." Greg L. Salchow, who follows the motorcycle industry at Roney Capital Markets in Detroit, said enthusiasts like Brieton gave the Italians an entree. "There's always going to be a certain group of people who want the real thing," he said. Ducati and Guzzi, he added, enjoy relatively strong name recognition, while lesser-known companies like Aprilia and Italjet would have to struggle harder. "You'd have to be a very dedicated enthusiast to even know them," he said. The long-term challenge for the Italians, said Guilfoyle of the Guggenheim, will be to attract young riders and keep the affluent market rolling when the baby boomers step off their bikes. The same challenge, of course, faces Harley-Davidson, he said, whose "buyers are old, an average 40 years old." Moto Guzzi says its Jackal is aimed mainly at young riders. "The Jackal project leader is 31 years old," said Poggio, who is 38. "Our bet is to satisfy the hard core of Guzzi buyers, and draw new customers. The Jackal is definitely aimed at the young." Ducati is investing $15 million to $20 million a year, about 70 percent of it in product development, Minoli said. Emulating fashion houses, Ducati is trying to build a cult around its chief designer, Pierre Terblanche, a former Volkswagen designer who learned motorcycle design from Massimo Tamburini, creator of some of Ducati's greatest models, including the 916 Superbike. But to realize their American ambitions, said Salchow, the analyst, the near-term challenge will be less spectacular -- distribution. "They are not even in a lot of markets, except for small specialty shops," he said. "They need more models, more apparel." Ducati's long-term goal is to have 200 exclusive stores globally. And the company is investing heavily to speed production. "The first thing is to crank out as many as you can," Minoli said. "I don't believe in scarcity" as a marketing device to maintain Ducati's exclusive image. From 20 motorcycles a day in 1996, when Texas Pacific bought in, production at Ducati has risen to 170, creating 350 new jobs, which were so hard to fill in the full-employment area around Bologna that Ducati had to retrain women textile workers from a local lingerie manufacturer. In the United States, Minoli said, Ducati has two constituencies: "people really serious about motorcycling, whose interest trickles down from racing, and the people who want a little of everything," adding, "They will have their Porsche -- and their Ducati." From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 07:37:58 1999 Return-Path: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24484 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 07:37:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SKPAH@XXXXXX Received: from SKPAH@XXXXXX (8078) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2UCOa26068 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 07:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8215cbf7.246eb66a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 07:37:14 EDT Subject: CHANGE OF E-MAIL ADDRESS To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 PLEASE CHANGE MY E-MAIL ADDRESS TO EXAMAPRO@XXXXXX THANKS STEVE '77 CB400F From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 10:07:31 1999 Return-Path: okan1262@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA26839 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:07:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-38-117.s117.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-38-117.s117.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.38.117]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA13818 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:07:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.erols.com: 207-172-38-117.s117.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.38.117] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <373D80F1.2F6C@erols.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 10:13:05 -0400 From: Okan Seremetoglu Reply-To: okan1262@XXXXXX Organization: The American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit UNSUBSCRIBE Bye everybody, I have sold my bike and going home permanantly. Ride Safe. Okan From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 13:48:28 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00675 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 13:48:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA14569; Sat, 15 May 1999 12:47:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv12-11.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.139) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma014556; Sat May 15 12:47:08 1999 Message-ID: <003901be9efa$acbe0720$8b5e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "John C. Kozyn" , "dc-cycles" References: <373D7B67.6EFE@mnsinc.com> Subject: Re: Ducati in the News (long) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 13:45:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Hey, Thanks John, that was one of the best articles I have read on = motorcycling in a long while. I wish the moto-rags were that could. = Its a definite keeper. =20 On a riding note, went down to Patriot HD from up here , about 160 miles = round trip.. What a waste... Oh well.... live and learn.... Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John C. Kozyn To: dc-cycles Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 9:49 AM Subject: Ducati in the News (long) From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 14:50:48 1999 Return-Path: pollack@XXXXXX Received: from ids2.idsonline.com (ids2.idsonline.com [205.177.236.32]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA01670 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 14:50:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ids2.idsonline.com (dc-csesp48.idsonline.com [207.176.21.48]) by ids2.idsonline.com (8.9.1/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA01052 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 14:45:55 -0400 Message-ID: <373DC346.6798AFA3@ids2.idsonline.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:56:06 -0400 From: Matthew Pollack X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: where to buy throttle cable? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am in need of a new throttle return cable for my 1991 Nighthawk. Coleman wants $28. Dennis Kirk doesn't carry it. Any ideas of where else to look? Thanks, Matthew 1991 CB-750 From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 17:30:56 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04319 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (207-172-117-80.s80.tnt12.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.117.80]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24564 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701be9f1a$57a8d100$5075accf@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: Subject: Frame Sliders Do Work Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:31:48 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Well, after 20K + drop free miles I managed to fall over on my GSXR today. After negotiating a 5 MPH left hand hairpin turn on the group ride I managed to catch my front end in some gravel / soft dirt with the front brake engaged. I probably was going about 1 MPH when the front end washed out. Damage: Some very minor paint scratches on the left lower fairing and some paint removed from the engine side case. Some rubbing compound and some gloss black VHT paint will make it look like new again. There is no doubt in my mind that the frame and bar end sliders prevented any serious damage. I believe they cost me around $60.00 total. I hate to think what a new lower fairng would have cost!!! I believe I sprained my knee and ankle when the bike fell om me. I also bruised my left elbow. I don't believe my injuries are very serious, and I hope to attend another group ride soon. Lastly, I want to thank those riders who assisted me in righting my bike. Their carefullness certainly prevented further damage. Roy D. Turner, Esq. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 18:16:43 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05104 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:16:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (3958) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nCIUa03429; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:15:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6fc05d08.246f4c04@aol.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:15:32 EDT Subject: Re: Frame Sliders Do Work To: rdt@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/15/99 5:36:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rdt@XXXXXX writes: << Well, after 20K + drop free miles I managed to fall over on my GSXR today. >> Think there was some bad Karma in the air at that point of the ride. After what almost happened, I guess something had to happen. Lucky thing you had those sliders, I need to find some for my 9, I am sold on their efficacy. Sorry to hear you sustained some minor injuries, hope you'll be ok. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 20:22:34 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07037 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id UAA08247 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:22:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990516003019.20334.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.70.70.65] by web307.yahoomail.com; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:30:19 PDT Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:30:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Group ride, section B To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow, we had about 17 bikes and riders show up at McD's this morning. After the standard briefing "Ride your own ride, yadda yadda yadda" we split into two groups. About 12 people went with Collin for the more aggressive A group (their leader popping a wheelie on the way out), and 5 people were with me for the assertive B group. :-) After about 20 minutes, we caught up with the A group. I thought someone went down because they were all standing around and traffic was backed up. But turns out there was an accident further ahead. Once my heart started beating again, traffic started moving too. But the way we were supposed to go was blocked off. Collin got directions from a police officer there, and I road more aggressively to be sure to keep his group in sight. Once we were back on track, I went back to merely assertive. Free State road, the left turn after Marshall, VA gave me a lot of grins. Twisty, and not too steep. We gathered up at Castiglios for lunch. The folks there knew the drill and put several tables together for us when we walked in. After lunch Collin had to go visit a friend, so Mike Jordan took over leading the agressive group. I don't know what happened to them from that point on. Jeanette's battery was giving her trouble, so the Zell's left. So in my assertive group, we had 3 folks left, me, Grant and Ursalina. The beginning of the ride went fine, but once we got on Blue Ridge Mountain Road, HOLY CRAP!!! The road had a lot of small gravel, almost like pebbles all over, mostly in the center of the lane!! My rear tire did a one foot horizontal slide! After that I rode at a slower pace until we got clear of the gravel. If you ride on 601, BE CAREFUL!!! >From there we headed into West Virginia, then East on Rt. 9. Some old dude in an old car went 35 mph in the 55 mph zone. The few times we had passing permitted, there was traffic coming the other way, and the rest of the time the road was too twisty for passing. Finally he pulled into a driveway, and I blasted away before slowing up a little to let the other two catch up. Geeze! >From Rt. 9, we got onto Rt. 7, back to Sterling and dispursed. All in all it was a good ride. Sorry to hear Roy had some trouble. Was it on Rt. 601, or were there other trouble spots? Louis === Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 20:47:23 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07442 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (a0116.chantilly.mns.net [206.239.104.148]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA21270 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:47:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373E4126.5224@mnsinc.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:53:10 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Throttle Cables + other stuff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matthew Pollack Subject: where to buy throttle cable? > I am in need of a new throttle return cable for my 1991 Nighthawk. > Coleman wants $28. Dennis Kirk doesn't carry it. Any ideas of where else > to look? Matthew, never, ever buy parts from Coleman unless you have to. The collective wisdom of this unique community of ours (actually me and a coupla' other Honda riders ;) suggests that you should try Banzai in Illinois (800.405.7283) or Honda of Riverhead in NY (800.955.2925). We have not found cheaper OEM Honda prices anywhere. Other stuff: -Sorry to hear about your scrape Roy. Glad the scoot is basically OK! I wonder if those sliders are available for VFRs also? -Ken, np on the nyt article. Glad you enjoyed it. Sorry the formating turned out odd. Kinda weird to see Ducati doing the yuppie-shmooze marketing crap, but I guess that's what it takes to remain competitive. Speaking of Ducati's, my wife was driving here in Arlington last weekend and found herself behind a rider outfitted in full leathers (like mine) on a red motorcycle with the "muffler coming out under the seat." Her next remark was: "His 'chicken stripes' were wider than yours." (She's not into bikes _at all_ so I thought that was kinda cute :) Hope everyone had a great riding day today. JK N.B. I thought I'd just throw out a heads-up for some you who are compulsive about planning your summer. I seem to remember reading more than a few posts recently concerning July plans. My "2nd Annual DC-Cycles Party" is scheduled for the last Saturday in July - yep, right when it's the steamiest here in the DC area! - and which falls on the 31st, I believe. More details will follow when I get around to it. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 15 23:00:45 1999 Return-Path: jirsak@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA09577 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 23:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from poboxes.com (209-122-199-152.s406.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.199.152]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09214; Sat, 15 May 1999 23:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373E34D4.60C5C747@poboxes.com> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:00:36 -0400 From: jirsak Reply-To: jirsak@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles CC: Matthew Pollack Subject: Re: where to buy throttle cable? References: <373DC346.6798AFA3@ids2.idsonline.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------7CE8D4FFBBCAFFC692B3A589" --------------7CE8D4FFBBCAFFC692B3A589 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had great success with Manchester Honda (both their moto parts division and their cager division). The can be found on the web at www.manhonda.com. The have OEM parts at wholesale prices. Shipping is usually not more than 3-4 days (if I remember right). Give them a call at 800-348-0070. I couldn't find an invoice from them so I took the number off of their web site. Good luck! Jay 1985 VF700C Magna Matthew Pollack wrote: > I am in need of a new throttle return cable for my 1991 Nighthawk. > Coleman wants $28. Dennis Kirk doesn't carry it. Any ideas of where else > to look? > > Thanks, > Matthew > 1991 CB-750 --------------7CE8D4FFBBCAFFC692B3A589 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had great success with Manchester Honda (both their moto parts division and their cager division).  The can be found on the web at www.manhonda.com.  The have OEM parts at wholesale prices.  Shipping is usually not more than 3-4 days (if I remember right).  Give them a call at 800-348-0070.  I couldn't find an invoice from them so I took the number off of their web site. Good luck!

Jay
1985 VF700C Magna

Matthew Pollack wrote:

I am in need of a new throttle return cable for my 1991 Nighthawk.
Coleman wants $28. Dennis Kirk doesn't carry it. Any ideas of where else
to look?

Thanks,
        Matthew
        1991 CB-750

--------------7CE8D4FFBBCAFFC692B3A589-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 08:30:12 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA19100 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 08:30:10 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id IAA07045 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 16 May 1999 08:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905161230.IAA07045@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: 4 courners of West Virginia To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 08:30:06 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text My disk crashed and i lost some mail. Would the person who was announcing trip around West virginia please get in touch with me off-list ? zbig@XXXXXX _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 09:10:47 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19647 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA08711 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:10:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:10:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Throttle Cables + other stuff In-Reply-To: <373E4126.5224@mnsinc.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 15 May 1999, John C. Kozyn wrote: > Matthew, never, ever buy parts from Coleman unless you have to. The > collective wisdom of this unique community of ours (actually me and a > coupla' other Honda riders ;) suggests that you should try Banzai in > Illinois (800.405.7283) or Honda of Riverhead in NY (800.955.2925). We > have not found cheaper OEM Honda prices anywhere. Not true, I have found cheaper OEM Honda prices at The Dirt Shop in College Park. It's probably true that Banzai's "random phone in customer prices" are better than The Dirt Shop's "random drive up customer" prices. However, after building a relationship with the shop they now give me prices that beat anything else, and sometimes they sell me stuff at cost. There are indeed good reasons to get comfy with your local shop... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 09:11:05 1999 Return-Path: MJordan666@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA19657 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:11:03 -0400 (EDT) From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA16294 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:11:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MJordan666@XXXXXX (14376) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vEQUa05092 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6bbe6e1d.24701d9e@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:09:50 EDT Subject: Re: Group ride, section B To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/15/99 20:31:30 Eastern Daylight Time, nighthawk700@XXXXXX writes: << The beginning of the ride went fine, but once we got on Blue Ridge Mountain Road, HOLY CRAP!!! The road had a lot of small gravel, almost like pebbles all over, mostly in the center of the lane!! My rear tire did a one foot horizontal slide! After that I rode at a slower pace until we got clear of the gravel. If you ride on 601, BE CAREFUL!!! >> If you think that was fun, last week we did that section DOWNHILL!!!! =:-( The road wasn't as bad this weekend as it was last, but the Rt 50 half of 601 is a sea of pea gravel. Michael (I HATE GRAVEL) J. From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 09:32:15 1999 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from brap-3.cais.net (brap-3.cais.net [205.252.14.37]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA20031 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:32:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wowbager (dynamic183.cais.com [207.226.56.183]) by brap-3.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07081 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 09:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004401be9fa0$35105880$b738e2cf@wowbager> From: "Mike B." To: "DC-Cycles" References: <19990516003019.20334.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: Group ride, section B Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:30:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 ----- Original Message ----- From: Louis F. Caplan To: DC-Cycles Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 8:30 PM Subject: Group ride, section B I was glad to see his bike came out with little damage due to the sliders, Very good investment. It happend on the 5mph turn on Snickerville Rd.Several people have had trouble with that turn. Glad you're okay Roy. It was nice to meet more of you, and thanx Louis for getting the ball rolling on this ride. :-) Mike B. 98 ZX900R > Sorry to hear Roy had some trouble. Was it on Rt. 601, or were there other > trouble spots? > > Louis > > === > Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA > 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 > "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 10:21:12 1999 Return-Path: picton@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA20758 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jip98 (207-172-131-124.s124.tnt4.col.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.131.124]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19204; Sun, 16 May 1999 10:21:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001901be9f9e$bf74bae0$5183accf@jip98> From: "picton" To: , "suzuki-l" , Subject: 1996 Savage For Sale Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 09:19:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 The Day I thought would never come is here.. My 1996 Savage LS650 is For Sale. The Bike is in Columbia, MD (Maryland). I am the second owner, I purchsed it with only 300 miles on the odometer, and it currently has a little more than 4000 miles on it . It comes with some extras: A Pro-tac Driver backrest, a Supertrapp Muffler, Cobra Drag Bar with Suzuki OEM Handlebar risers. Plus I still have the original equipment; handlebars, muffler, etc. There are links to an article I wrote about it on my homepage (Warning the page UGLY!!!) that has pictures of the Savage with the Supertrapp, but not with the handlebars. The address is www.erols.com/picton The Savage is in great shape. The only difference between it and a new one is that crome pipe is a little gold in places. It runs great, looks great, the motor is in good shape - the oil was changed every 1500 miles. It would be a really good bike for a beginner or a smaller rider. It has classic styling and would be a great addition to anyone's collection. Why am I selling it??? I recently traded my Honda in for a 1999 Vstar 1100 a much bigger bike. Which will suit my crusier riding needs a little better than the Savage. I am 6 ft tall and little over 200lbs so the Savage was a little small (Also, trying to ride two up on it with my wife was a little cramped). Plus the new Vstar will give me a longer crusing radius, it has a much bigger gas tank than the Savage. I still love the bike, and part of me doesn't really want ot sell it, but I figure between by VStar 1100 and the Yamaha SR500 (another single cyclinder bike) that I am restoring as a race/street bike, I won't have a lot of time for it. I got the Savage for a good price, but I have put a lot of extras into it. The price is $2850 which I think is a good price when you consider a new one (stock) goes for $4199. If anyone is interested, I can be contacted at picton@XXXXXX or by phone at 410-290-8681. Thanks Jason From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 11:11:17 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA21437 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Sun, 16 May 1999 11:10:42 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'sabmag'" , "'DCCy'" Subject: Sigma 1100 Cyclometer $20 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:10:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain REI in College park, MD has a bunch of Sigma 1100's for $19.95 ($21.99 with tax) This is about half of what most folks want for them. Dunno if this is a national sale or local. At that price, I bought one for the Suzuki. (already have one for the Sabre) The Sigma 1100 is similar to the 800 except it has a cadence feature (if you buy the sending device separately) Tho I think the speed only goes up to 120 mph Installation is a snap (see web for several accounts). I duct-taped 2 Radio Shack 1/4 inch magnets (opposite sides of wheel for balance). Zip tied pick-up to a spacer on the fork. Total time ~ 45 minutes (some was spent looking for plastic to make spacer) Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 13:24:56 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23453 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA27925 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA12667; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001001be9fc1$7bca1ba0$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: "Louis F. Caplan" , "DC-Cycles" References: <19990516003019.20334.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Subject: Re: Group ride, section B Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:28:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Thanks for a great ride yesterday, Louis! Thomas & I headed home and then for some reason took a turn down to Fredericksburg 'cause Tom wanted to get some ice cream...long ride for ice cream! ; ) My bike wouldn't start after we got ice cream, so we had to pop start it again. That went fine. The weirdest part was, though, we had to stop for gas later and the damn thing started just fine! I don't know what the deal is and Tom hasn't had time to look at it yet, so I guess I can't ride today. : ( I hate the cage! - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 ----- Original Message ----- From: Louis F. Caplan To: DC-Cycles Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 8:30 PM Subject: Group ride, section B > > Wow, we had about 17 bikes and riders show up at McD's this morning. After the > standard briefing "Ride your own ride, yadda yadda yadda" we split into two > groups. About 12 people went with Collin for the more aggressive A group > (their leader popping a wheelie on the way out), and 5 people were with me for > the assertive B group. :-) > > After about 20 minutes, we caught up with the A group. I thought someone went > down because they were all standing around and traffic was backed up. But > turns out there was an accident further ahead. Once my heart started beating > again, traffic started moving too. But the way we were supposed to go was > blocked off. Collin got directions from a police officer there, and I road > more aggressively to be sure to keep his group in sight. Once we were back on > track, I went back to merely assertive. > > Free State road, the left turn after Marshall, VA gave me a lot of grins. > Twisty, and not too steep. We gathered up at Castiglios for lunch. The folks > there knew the drill and put several tables together for us when we walked in. > After lunch Collin had to go visit a friend, so Mike Jordan took over leading > the agressive group. I don't know what happened to them from that point on. > > Jeanette's battery was giving her trouble, so the Zell's left. So in my > assertive group, we had 3 folks left, me, Grant and Ursalina. The beginning of > the ride went fine, but once we got on Blue Ridge Mountain Road, HOLY CRAP!!! > The road had a lot of small gravel, almost like pebbles all over, mostly in the > center of the lane!! My rear tire did a one foot horizontal slide! After that > I rode at a slower pace until we got clear of the gravel. If you ride on 601, > BE CAREFUL!!! > > From there we headed into West Virginia, then East on Rt. 9. Some old dude in > an old car went 35 mph in the 55 mph zone. The few times we had passing > permitted, there was traffic coming the other way, and the rest of the time the > road was too twisty for passing. Finally he pulled into a driveway, and I > blasted away before slowing up a little to let the other two catch up. Geeze! > > From Rt. 9, we got onto Rt. 7, back to Sterling and dispursed. All in all it > was a good ride. > > Sorry to hear Roy had some trouble. Was it on Rt. 601, or were there other > trouble spots? > > Louis > > === > Louis Caplan Alexandria, VA > 1998 Kawasaki Concours Capitol 1000 #21 > "Mean Green Scream Machine" Proud Sponsor of Joe Denton > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 13:48:53 1999 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23848 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-239-23.s23.as1.rkv.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.239.23]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA19177 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:48:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000901be9fdd$2f6e5020$17efaccf@default> From: "rdrdr" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Stuck rear wheel !! Help ! Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:46:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE9FA2.80EEBB00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE9FA2.80EEBB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm stuck ! I've done this countless times - the simple task of removing the rear = wheel ! I've taken off the nut - no problem ! =20 But the long bolt/rod that the wheel rotates around refuses to come out. I've tried to push it out with a hammer - without success. I've tried to turn it with a ratchet - without success. I've tried turning it with a manual impact wrench - without success ! The wheel turns freely and can move forward and aft (for chain = adjustment). Can anybody help ??? Thanks. 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I'm stuck !
 
I've done this countless times - the simple task of removing the = rear wheel=20 !
 
I've taken off the nut - no problem ! 
But the long bolt/rod that the wheel rotates around refuses to come = out.
 
I've tried to push it out with a hammer - without success.
I've tried to turn it with a ratchet - without success.
I've tried turning it with a manual impact wrench - without success = !
 
The wheel turns freely and can move forward and aft (for chain=20 adjustment).
 
Can anybody help ???
 
 
Thanks.
 
Niv
DR650
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE9FA2.80EEBB00-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 13:56:03 1999 Return-Path: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23950 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:56:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gibberish.radix.net (p10.a1.du.radix.net [207.192.129.10]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA27422; Sun, 16 May 1999 13:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373F06DC.69FB@radix.net> Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 13:56:44 -0400 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: pollack@XXXXXX Subject: throttle cable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:56:06 -0400 > From: Matthew Pollack > X-Accept-Language: en > To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" > Subject: where to buy throttle cable? > > I am in need of a new throttle return cable for my 1991 Nighthawk. > Coleman wants $28. Dennis Kirk doesn't carry it. Any ideas of where else > to look? > > Thanks, > Matthew > 1991 CB-750 Call me at work, I have an alternative source for less $$. Richard Wood 703-497-1500. 1-800-888-2925 yes, i work for CPS. call me, you have a friend in the business. ;] From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 15:31:07 1999 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25487 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust030.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.30]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA02550; Sun, 16 May 1999 15:31:06 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990516152905.006a4ccc@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 15:29:05 -0400 To: Mehran , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Kawasaki Ninja 250 For Sale In-Reply-To: <19990514171003.14953.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Depending on condition, it sounds like a good $1000-$1800 bike. But, you might want to let the Ninja 250 list know about it. http://disc.server.com/Indices/5109.html Here's an ad from the Ninja 250 list. - I am going to sell my ninja. 1987 model 250R with 600 original miles. new set of 591's with zero milage on them. I have a new factory stage one jetkit and new muzzy race pipe for the bike also for sale. best offer over $1500 considered. make offer on pipe and jetkit. bike was just registered and tagged today(expires may 2000) in arizona. needless to say bike is in excellent condition.black with red vinyl. On the 250 list, the '86 and '87 models are the most desireable, they have a little more power and are geared lower. Leon. At 10:10 AM 5/14/99 -0700, Mehran wrote: > >1994 Kawasaki Ninja 250 >All Stock. About 6,000 miles. Black. >New tires. Excellent Condition. Helmet included. >$2200 > >Call or send an e-mail for more info and a picture. > >Max @ 202-438-1330 >mehran7@XXXXXX > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 22:46:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA02343 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA25821 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.122.238.197]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA21227 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:46:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA00781; Sun, 16 May 1999 22:46:34 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma000779; Sun, 16 May 99 22:46:18 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990516223930.00b03c10@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 22:46:18 -0400 To: vfr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: Broken Chain In-Reply-To: <19990516.200208.-374955.4.Redviffer@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:01 PM 5/16/99 -0600, you wrote: >Had my chain break today, at around 65 mph. All I can say is that I'm >pretty lucky that it didn't take more of whats back there with it. Any idea what caused it? Do you lube it frequently (every 400 miles or so) and how much slack was in it before it broke? I've never had one break before - not something I want to happen! Took a 200 mile ride today through the Shenandoah mountains in VA. Besides one very ppor road choice (loose gravel, downhill, hairpin turns) we had a great time. I am far from squidly, but I did get a chance to open the bike up a bit on one bit of slab. The wind tends to whip a bit at (indicated) 130, but the bike is solid as a rock. A MC cop in Leesburg scared the crap out of me and ZMan (FZR 600) when he rolled up and motioned us to the side of the road. We complied, and he handed me a flyer for a poker run in June. I told him he scared the crap out of me...he just laughed. I took the opportunity and had him pace me at 50Mph to check the speedo. I registered 55....Z registered 40! DOH! _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Sun May 16 23:15:04 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA02822 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 23:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA26060 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 23:14:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp.wheatintl.com (smtp.wheatintl.com [209.249.185.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA21533 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 23:14:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from mail@localhost) by smtp.wheatintl.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) id XAA02292 for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 23:14:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 209-122-238-197.s197.tnt2.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com(209.122.238.197) by smtp.wheatintl.com via smap (V2.0) id xmaa02287; Sun, 16 May 99 23:14:36 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990516231252.00a80df0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 23:14:34 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: brain fart Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I must be tired from working too much this week. ZMan rides a YZF600 - not a FZR600. Sorry about that Mr. Zimmermann. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 06:51:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA10520 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 06:51:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA01130 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 06:51:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA27207 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 06:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA10201 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 06:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from radix.net (dhcp165112138036.cit.nih.gov [165.112.138.36]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA3730372 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 06:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <373FF531.F4C8F702@radix.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 06:53:37 -0400 From: Dave Yates X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: CBRXX Blackbird....POLICE EDITION!?!?? References: <199905141938.PAA06431@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The guy I bought my ZX11 from worked at the British embassy. He had a picture of the bike, himself & DIPLOMATIC plates... :-0 I asked what happened, since he didn't have them anymore, he said they were 'repossessed' due to some driving situations that I'm sure, were just simple misunderstandings on the police's part.............. -- Dave Yates '97 Cobra #5148 /'90 ZX11- I hate these damned flatsides ! SCOA #1042 / NMA / AMA http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ Systems Analyst Soza & Company, Ltd. IOA / Control-M / R / D Administrator ATG Group Webmaster (301) 496-3760 zbig@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > This floated across the CBR list the other day....I want one. I want one BAD. > > License to SPEED, BABY! > > > > Move to Sveden, and join local enforcement. You may got lucky... > > > http://www.manor.org/cbr/ > > > > -Sean Jordan > > '93 CBR1000F > > > > _zjt > -- > ******************************************************************** > Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX > Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 07:25:16 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA10988 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 07:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 17 May 1999 04:25:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Throttle Cables + other stuff Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 04:24:55 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Whoa.. Kirk's joined the club now.. eh? I've been getting these kinds of deals for a little over a year now. I'm fairly certain that that shop will go to the ends of the earth to help me out should I request it. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Kirk Roy [mailto:kirk@XXXXXX] > > Not true, I have found cheaper OEM Honda prices at The Dirt Shop in > College Park. > > There are indeed good reasons to get comfy with your local shop... > > Kirk > > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 07:32:14 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA11181 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 07:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id HAA21056 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 07:25:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990517073051.00a31100@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:33:02 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: oil changes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all, I'm used to doing all my own oil changes, but that was when I had somewhere to bring the used oil... where do you folks bring your used oil in the Reston/Herndon area??? (And no, the hole in your back yard doesn't count). It's already time for the 500 mile break-in service, and I'd prefer to take care of it myself. TIA ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 08:03:42 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA11800 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:03:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA01711 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:03:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blue.vais.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [207.98.180.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA27812 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yellow.vais.net (yellow.vais.net [207.98.180.4]) by blue.vais.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA13829; Mon, 17 May 1999 07:08:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:03:17 -0400 (EDT) From: DIAL|MB|Tom Gallo To: Gary Foreman cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Anyone Riding a '99 TL1000R here? I may be getting one this week. In-Reply-To: <002301be9e84$d47a2940$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE I purchased my 99 TL1000R about two weeks ago, and up to this point I don't have any complaints. However, I have noticed what I believe is a fuel delivery problem around 3500 rpm. Outside of that, I really enjoy riding the big twin. It is an excellent street machine, always in the torque :-) As far as the price you are paying for the bike, that is awfully cheap!!! Tom=20 99 TL1000RX On Fri, 14 May 1999, Gary Foreman wrote: > Let me know how you like it. Any maintenance problems? >=20 > Getting it for $8600 new out the door >=20 > I'm still keeping the FJ though. >=20 > Gary W. Foreman > EMAIL: gforeman@XXXXXX > WEB: http://www.fj1100.com > `=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8= =B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4 > A SUPERIOR Pilot may be defined as one who > stays out of trouble by using his SUPERIOR > Judgement to AVOID the situations which might > require the use of his SUPERIOR Skills. >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 08:16:29 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12452 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:16:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A8904871010C; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:16:16 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990517075219.012c1d40@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:53:15 -0400 To: "Collin T. Fagan" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Chris's Road Trip Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <19990514213227.8070.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:32 PM 5/14/99 , you wrote: >Yes, there's a few other routes that bypass Skyline Drive. After the >personal harrassment (65 miles worth) that I received (and yes, for >once I was actually doing the speed limit for a change) and all the >similar horror stories I've heard from others, I will never put another >wheel on that stretch of pavement. A shame too, since it's a nice >ride, but there are plenty of other places that are just as good, FREE, >and a lot fewer overzealous cops....but I digress... Actually, I'd like to hear your tale. The only problems I've had there is dealing with city-idiots stopping in the middle of the road to watch the wildlife. Chris Norloff Chris Norloff Falls Church, VA 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 08:36:02 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA12933 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:34:37 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCAFFD7@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'John C. Kozyn'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Throttle Cables + other stuff Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:34:32 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Hey that sounds like the guy that works here at the Pentagon. I think he must stop before going around turns. I swear he must have a good 1 1/2 to 2" of chicken stripe. Glenn > Speaking of Ducati's, my wife was driving here in Arlington last weekend > and found herself behind a rider outfitted in full leathers (like mine) > on a red motorcycle with the "muffler coming out under the seat." Her > next remark was: "His 'chicken stripes' were wider than yours." (She's > not into bikes _at all_ so I thought that was kinda cute :) > > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 09:21:50 1999 Return-Path: CBR600twt@XXXXXX Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13667 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:21:49 -0400 (EDT) From: CBR600twt@XXXXXX Received: from CBR600twt@XXXXXX (14415) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 4HXNa19535; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:20:54 EDT Subject: Re: Chris's Road Trip To: cnorloff@XXXXXX, gixer_racer@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 Speaking from experience, it's real easy to get in trouble up there (Skyline Drive). Not alot of excape routes. I got three (3) tickets and had my bike impounded. I,... of course deserved it! Craig & I were behaving badly! The only saving grace was the tickets never showed up on my record. As you will find, most Park Police do not mess around and rarely cut you slack. But there reporting leave alot to be desired (to my advantage!). I'll go up there again, but in 1st gear >:~)> Tom T. 98 R1 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 09:28:13 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA13774 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:28:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA24868 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:28:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Chris's Road Trip In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990517075219.012c1d40@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 17 May 1999, Chris Norloff wrote: > Actually, I'd like to hear your tale. The only problems I've had there > is dealing with city-idiots stopping in the middle of the road to watch > the wildlife. I got a ticket for riding 2 abreast on bicycles while on Skyline Drive. This was just a few minutes after we'd passed a couple cars on a downhill and we were still going downhill and well over the speed limit when they pulled us over. Obviously, by going 65mph downhill we were impeding auto traffic... I'd have rather gotten a speeding ticket. That was the last time I went on Skyline Drive. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 09:51:42 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14275 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:51:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA27930 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:51:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from world1.bellatlantic.net.world7.bellatlantic.net ([209.3.159.15]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA03057; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:54:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905171354.JAA03057@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> From: "Danny Thompson" To: Kirk Roy , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:52:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Dirt Ride Sunday X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Danny Thompson" X-pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal References: <199905101421.KAA24450@smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net> In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Kirk, I just wanted to thank you for setting up the dirt ride and showing us the location. It was a great time, I will be reminded of it for the next week if my body today is any indication! :) It sucks getting old. To the list, if you ever get a chance, go ride on some dirt every once in a while, it has carry over to the road and it is just plain fun! I guess I will be keeping the DR (getting a knobby on back) and waiting on the race bike for at least another year. I figured one day on the dirt would help me remember how much I enjoy it and make the decision to sell the "dirt toy" to buy a "race toy" easier. Now to stay away from Summit so I don't get that in my system again... oh wait... they are racing this weekend; I'm going; Looks like the bug will stay with me until I can get it fixed. (Hopefully next Spring / Summer). On that note: WHO's going to the races this weekend? Let's set up a ride up and get a group together! Later, Danny '99 VFR '93 DR 350 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 09:54:45 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA14305 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 09:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FBV00OCUQAXV9@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:47:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta03.mcit.com (omzmta03.mcit.com [166.37.194.121]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA01099; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:43:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta03.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990517134721.PFGQ8656@toddnt>; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:47:21 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:44:43 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: oil changes In-reply-to: <4.1.19990517073051.00a31100@fedsco.sco.com> To: Grant Heffernan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000a01bea06b$6b6860a0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Most any service station will take used oil. Just ask them and they'll tell you. Also, If you contain it like I do in a large safe container, and you live in Fairfax County, you can just roll down to the Woodbridge landfill, or the West Ox road transfer station and dump it there in their collectors. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Grant Heffernan [mailto:granth@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 7:33 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: oil changes > > > Hi all, > I'm used to doing all my own oil changes, but that was when I had > somewhere > to bring the used oil... where do you folks bring your used oil in the > Reston/Herndon area??? (And no, the hole in your back yard > doesn't count). > It's already time for the 500 mile break-in service, and I'd > prefer to take > care of it myself. > TIA > > > ********************************* > Grant M. Heffernan > Field Systems Engineer > The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. > Reston, VA 20191 > ph: (703) 715-8721 > http://north.sco.com > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 10:00:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14509 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:00:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03348 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp4.mindspring.com (smtp4.mindspring.com [207.69.200.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00150 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:00:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hgg (user-2iveij6.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.74.102]) by smtp4.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA19900 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990517100241.007e5560@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:02:41 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Harry Greenspun, MD" Subject: Skyline Drive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -- Re-intro on -- Hi, everyone, I'm back after a long email hiatus. I'm gearing up for the Cap 1000 (i.e., installed new seat, interfaced a radar detector into my Autocom). --- intro off --- Skyline Drive doesn't make a lot of sense as a motorcycle road from the start when you have to pay to get on it. Speeds are low both from enforcement and traffic. Worse still, the drivers have declared themselves to be intentionally hazardous by taking a route which will have them paying primary attention to the view rather than the road. Finally, although the curves are okay, more often than not you're stuck behind a crawling RV while the only diversion is to read the fascinating bumper stickers about the joys of retirement. Meanwhile, much nicer roads surround the area. Pick up any map, find a twisty road within 5 miles of SLD, or ones that cross it, and take it. If you need more help, get Dale Coyner's book "Motorcycle Journey's through the Appalachians." Interestingly, even the Blue Ridge Parkway is dramatically nicer, 30% faster, and less crowded. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT '93 Kawasaki ZX-11 (Abducted) http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 10:07:13 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA14651 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:07:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA28892 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (8025) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vXLVa24272 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:05:32 EDT Subject: Re: Dirt Ride Sunday To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 In a message dated 5/17/99 9:57:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dthompso1@XXXXXX writes: << On that note: WHO's going to the races this weekend? Let's set up a ride up and get a group together! >> I am going up on Sunday to look at (and possibly pick up) a racebike that a guy is bringing down from NJ. On that note, will someone have vehicle/space to bring the bike back if I like it? If so, I'd ride my bike up. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 10:11:45 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14705 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:11:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990517141204.2477.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 07:12:04 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:12:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Fwd: FW: Top ten To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hmmm.... scary thing is, whoever wrote this is pretty much right on the money when it comes to my household!! lol Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hsta@XXXXXX > Are you a 'Sport-Bike' enthusiast?? > > Here are the top ten ways to tell if you are a hardcore sport bike > junkie: > > 10. You can quote all of your bikes specs, but can't remember your > anniversary. > > > 9. You take the long way everywhere and still get there first. > > > 8. You define "foreplay" as a 50 mile street ride. > > > 7. You brake so late you don't see God you see Elvis. > > > 6. You get a tell-tale facial tick every year at new model time. > > > 5. You measure all purchases in terms of the number of tires you > could have bought. > > > 4. You have only motorcycle shops programmed into your speed > dialler. > > > 3. You use racing lines when pushing a shopping cart at the > grocery store. > > > 2. You consider 10,000 rpm "midrange". > > > 1. You refer to the corner at the end of your street "Turn > One". > > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 10:28:41 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay6.UU.NET (relay6.UU.NET [192.48.96.16]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15078 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:28:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgpph12368 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:25:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256774.004FE638 ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:32:42 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256774.004FE4C2.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:19:42 -0400 Subject: Gel Pad Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I know Gil once spoke about this gel pad, but anyone else who may know how I might order one, please send me an e-mail. My VFR is torture on the backside! The mouse pad I ride on is just not doing it for me! LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 10:42:43 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA15344 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:42:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA03952 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:42:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01503 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA12753 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:42:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:41:30 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:41:22 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:38:37 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: sdave@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: CBRXX Blackbird....POLICE EDITION!?!?? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline >>> Dave Yates - 5/17/99 6:53 AM >>> The guy I bought my ZX11 from worked at the British embassy. He had a picture of the bike, himself & DIPLOMATIC plates... :-0 I asked what happened, since he didn't have them anymore, he said they were 'repossessed' due to some driving situations that I'm sure, were just simple misunderstandings on the police's part.............. What a hose job. I've NEVER seen vehicles with diplomatic plates abuse traffic or parking laws, especially not in NYC near the UN. These people are our guests and they're getting screwed! HA HA HA HA HA . . . Joe From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 11:16:31 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15947 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA04376 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10jP2I-00007Y-00; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:10:34 -0400 Received: from david500 ([209.70.174.26]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA11562; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:13:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003b01bea078$6f0d12c0$1aae46d1@david500.bdanet.com> From: "Dave Cross" To: , Subject: Re: Gel Pad Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:17:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Try here: http://www.jcwhitney.com/products/01zx1233n.htm Dave Cross -----Original Message----- From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Monday, May 17, 1999 10:51 AM Subject: Gel Pad > > >I know Gil once spoke about this gel pad, but anyone else who may know how I >might order one, please send me an e-mail. My VFR is torture on the backside! >The mouse pad I ride on is just not doing it for me! LOL > >- Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 11:17:12 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA15965 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:17:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27260 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:14:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Dirt Ride Sunday In-Reply-To: <199905171354.JAA03057@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 17 May 1999, Danny Thompson wrote: > I just wanted to thank you for setting up the dirt ride and showing us > the location. It was a great time No problem! It's nice to have others around to pull your bike off of you! > I will be reminded of it for the next week if my body today is any > indication! :) It sucks getting old. Indeed, that was the first time I spent a bunch of time jumping. Somehow, my gluteals are quite sore today. Maybe this is the new fitness revolution - "Rock Hard Buttocks through the miracle of Big Air!" The companion video - "Pancake Flat Gonads!" will be included free, with an introductory statement by Les! > To the list, if you ever get a chance, go ride on some dirt every > once in a while, it has carry over to the road and it is just plain > fun! Yep, just getting out on dirt roads with your street bike has skills value. For humor value, I think I may bring my video camera with me next time out. If nothing else, it'll show me that my idea of "big air" is getting 12 inches off the ground... :) Kirk 98 SuperHawk GT 84 XR350R From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 11:20:29 1999 Return-Path: alexm@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA16073 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate1.sprintlink.net (gate1.sprintlink.net [199.0.233.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA03929 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from athens.res.sprintlink.net by gate1.sprintlink.net via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 17 May 1999 15:12:18 UT Received: from localhost (alexm@localhost) by athens.res.sprintlink.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA14411 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:08:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:08:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Milenkovic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Top ten In-Reply-To: <19990517141204.2477.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > 10. You can quote all of your bikes specs, but can't remember your > > anniversary. I'm glad im not married, because I think I'd fail on this one.. > > 7. You brake so late you don't see God you see Elvis. I think the people that watch collin fly by them with his rear wheel in the air will testify to this one! > > 6. You get a tell-tale facial tick every year at new model time. Collin, what about pepe? Poor guy... > > 5. You measure all purchases in terms of the number of tires you > > could have bought. I almost caught myself doing this too. Just like a little party I threw this weekend, and as one guy walked in, he looks at my living room, sees 4 tires stacked on top of eachother there, and says "well, thats how you can tell who the hard core ones are. When you have tires in your living room!" > > 3. You use racing lines when pushing a shopping cart at the > > grocery store. I did this! At costco! Jeez, I thought I was the only freak.. I put in a 100 lb floor jack, and all of a sudden it had a ton of front end weight, but the back end was somewhat light (given how the jack was on the cart).. so every time I'd round a corner, I'd do a mini back end slide.. I had a lot of fun doing that.. baah. > > 2. You consider 10,000 rpm "midrange". > > 1. You refer to the corner at the end of your street "Turn > > One". Bastard cops have a substation 1/4 mi from my house. I call my street "I wish I could speed here" Well, I'm ready for the track again. Sadly, its in my car. Its a shame I suck at riding as much as I do, because I think SP would be fun as hell on a bike. I think I'm going to get one of my friends to look at my laps. They should be fairly pathetic, but I _am_ running race rubber, good brakes, and much car engine/suspension mods. I'm gonna try the adjustable shocks to about 1/2 or 2/3 stiffness, because the race tires have the most _ridiculously_ stiff sidewall. Do you MC racers have to 'heat treat' your tires? I dont think I recall reading about people doing this to 207GP or Azarros.. And, how long does it take you guys to break in a new set of rotors/pads? Just curious here.. sorry to bore you guys with car talk. I think I'm succumbing to the dark side.. Alex. P.S. If it rains friday, I commit hari-kari. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 11:26:42 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA16106 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:26:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:58:50 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 17 May 1999 10:58:44 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:56:05 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Subject: Gel Pad -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Once again, Kirk to the rescue. $66.99, 1 800 328 9280. These guys oughta sponsor me with all the shillin' I do fer 'em. joe From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 13:03:27 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA17940 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:03:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA16173 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:03:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199905171703.NAA16173@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita L." <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:00:01 -0400 Subject: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) To celebrate the addition of a deck in my backyard, and to REALLY give my neighbors something to talk about I'm volunteering to host a Memorial Day Ride/BBQ. Not surprisingly, this will be held on Monday, May 31st. I was thinking of a 3-4 hour ride, ending back at my house by 1-2 pm, followed by your typical Memorial Day menu. I'll provide the sodas, grill, hamburgers, hotdogs and chicken.. maybe people could bring some side dishes or desserts. Unfortunately my townhouse is too small for a full "invite everyone you know" dc-cycles bash, but there is plenty of room for some post-ride festivities. I live in Sterling, right up the street from the NOVA Loudoun Campus off of Rte 7. I'd probably start the ride from my house as well, in case people need to drop stuff off beforehand. Anyhow, I've been wanting to stir up the neighborhood a bit, and figure Memorial Day is as good a reason as any. I don't really have anything against my neighbors, btw, but they seem to spend way too much time keeping track of what I'm doing. So, if I can get 15- 20 bikes parked out front of my house for an afternoon, that should keep them occupied for quite a while! :-) If you think you'd like to attend, please drop me a quick note so I'll have an idea of the headcount. I'll post more specifics as we get closer to the date. Thanks! Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 13:06:47 1999 Return-Path: true911@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18037 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mygamer (client-151-196-116-131.bellatlantic.net [151.196.116.131]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA14278; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:09:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905171709.NAA14278@smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net> X-Sender: true911@XXXXXX (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:01:47 -0400 To: balt-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfrlist@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX From: "Mark E. Truelove" Subject: Memorial Day/Deal's Gap open invitation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm taking my annual ride down the Blue Ridge with a few friends over Memorial Day weekend, leaving on Thursday, 5/27. Since one of the regulars had to bail last year and hasn't seen the Gap, that's our highlight destination. This isn't the planned, mapped event that the dc-cycles ride was last year; rather, we'd like to link up and ride with anyone along the route or in the area (Baltimore), with planned meeting points two or three times a day, instead of monitoring a "group" of riders, allowing each to find his/her own pace enroute. We will generally have cell phones and voice mail where messages can be left for one another in case of changes in plan, roadside trouble, or whatever. We're in this more for the ride than the destination, though we're tossing around the idea of slabbing it a bit on the way down to get to the Gap on Friday instead of Saturday, hoping to avoid the weekend press of riders, such as it may be. We'll probably camp in designated sites, though we may split motel rooms in a pinch. That's the plan so far -- please drop me a line with interest or questions. MET ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark E. Truelove (true@XXXXXX)=A0= http://members.bellatlantic.net/~true911/ 1992 VFR750 (The Crow)=A0=A0=A0 1985 VF500 ('Kitty)=A0=A0=A0 1972 CB350 (In= Hibernation) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 13:11:29 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA18076 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:11:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA23574; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:10:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv11-17.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.17) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma023466; Mon May 17 12:10:21 1999 Message-ID: <003001bea087$dbd2b180$115e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: , References: <85256774.004FE4C2.00@172.16.2.37> Subject: Re: Gel Pad Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:08:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I ordered mine from Winchester Indian, but notice that tey are now in = the Competitiion Accessories ads, and the Motorcycle accessory = Wharehouse ads. I love mine.... Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: To: Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 10:19 AM Subject: Gel Pad >=20 >=20 > I know Gil once spoke about this gel pad, but anyone else who may know = how I > might order one, please send me an e-mail. My VFR is torture on the = backside! > The mouse pad I ride on is just not doing it for me! LOL >=20 > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 15:23:13 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20770 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:23:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 17 May 1999 18:30:53 UT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:21 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: BC1100 Setup ?'s Message-ID: <19990517152322466-dd0ee7@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I went out and took advantage of the sale that REI was having and picked up two units... one for me and one for Jeannette. My question though is this... Does it matter where you place the sensor in relation to the wheel? Here's a better way of putting it... Let's say that I mount the magnet and the sensor close to the wheel hub (I think John K's is setup like this on his VF) and then I enter the circumference of the wheel into the computer. Will it take the same reading as having the sensor mounted high on the fork with the magnet on the outer part of the wheel? I'm a little confused in this area and since the instructions are in German(or something) I'm having a really hard time understanding how it all really works. Any help would be appreciated! -Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 15:34:26 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from defender.fda.gov (defender.fda.gov [198.77.181.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA20946 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:34:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluto.cder.fda.gov by defender.fda.gov via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 17 May 1999 19:33:52 UT Received: from royk.cder.fda.gov ("port 1609"@royk.cder.fda.gov [150.148.146.166]) by Mail.cder.fda.gov (PMDF V5.2-32 #37506) with SMTP id <01JBB4TY691W95MNPE@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:35:37 -0500 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:35:35 -0400 From: Kirk Roy Subject: Re: BC1100 Setup ?'s In-reply-to: <19990517152322466-dd0ee7@fanniemaefoundation.org> X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Message-id: <4.1.19990517153316.00911db0@beta.nova.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:21 PM 5/17/99 -0400, Tom Zell wrote: >My question though is this... Does it matter where you place the sensor in >relation to the wheel? Here's a better way of putting it... Let's say that I >mount the magnet and the sensor close to the wheel hub (I think John K's is >setup like this on his VF) and then I enter the circumference of the wheel into >the computer. Will it take the same reading as having the sensor mounted high >on the fork with the magnet on the outer part of the wheel? The wheel makes the same number of revolutions no matter where you put the magnet/sensor. Since the thing is just counting revolutions and doing the math with your tire diameter, you can put the magnet/sensor where ever it's convenient. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 15:53:53 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA21316 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:53:51 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA22724; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:54:43 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma022274; Mon, 17 May 99 15:53:54 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBW007PC7BYWB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:55:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256774.006D1EC3 ; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:51:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:44:49 -0400 Subject: Re: BC1100 Setup ?'s To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Message-id: <85256774.006D14F8.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Tom, It doesn't matter where on the radius of the wheel you mount the sensor. The computer simply knows how far around the wheel has gone with one revolution once you've entered in the circumference of the tire, it just expects that you've traveled 1xcircumference with each revolution. Keep in mind, though, that you'll need to mount the sensor and the magnet in the same direction for the sensor to read the magnet correctly. I.E. if you put the sensor pointing north and south, don't put the magnet on pointing west and east. A physics side note: any individual spot on a rotating radius will rotate the same number of revolutions for a given time as any other spot on the radius. The spots on the radius that are closer to the center of the wheel will simply travel more slowly than those on the outer end of the radius to make up for the decreased distance they have to travel to complete the rotation. If you look at a wheel rotating, the closer to the center of the wheel you look, the slower the wheel will seem to be moving. Watch 2001: A Space Odyssey for a good example of this. Confused yet? Chris Weaver My question though is this... Does it matter where you place the sensor in relation to the wheel? Here's a better way of putting it... Let's say that I mount the magnet and the sensor close to the wheel hub (I think John K's is setup like this on his VF) and then I enter the circumference of the wheel into the computer. Will it take the same reading as having the sensor mounted high on the fork with the magnet on the outer part of the wheel? I'm a little confused in this area and since the instructions are in German(or something) I'm having a really hard time understanding how it all really works. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 17:47:46 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA23511 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl39 ([206.165.125.181]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 4742900 ; Mon, 17 May 1999 17:46:02 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles Mail List" Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 17:53:14 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Hoorah Message-Id: <199905172146.4742900@zzapp.org> The parts are in to fix my bike! I'll pick it back up tomorrow. My butt is still sore from riding the Suzuki for the last two weekends. Now too find a good Saturday ride. We're having a bike show Sunday at Hooters of Rockville. Anyone interested should stop by and support ABATE of MD (Montgomery Co). I'll keep reading the sub for a Saturday ride. ___________ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 18:08:02 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA23924 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 17 May 1999 21:15:47 UT Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 16:06 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: BC1100 Setup ?'s Message-ID: <19990517160822578-1064238@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I made a mock setup with a CD and a magic marker to get a view of what goes on and I answered my question. Not too hard I guess... I just needed to see it. Tom ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: BC1100 Setup ?'s Author: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Date: 5/17/99 3:35 PM At 03:21 PM 5/17/99 -0400, Tom Zell wrote: >My question though is this... Does it matter where you place the sensor in >relation to the wheel? Here's a better way of putting it... Let's say that I >mount the magnet and the sensor close to the wheel hub (I think John K's is >setup like this on his VF) and then I enter the circumference of the wheel into >the computer. Will it take the same reading as having the sensor mounted high >on the fork with the magnet on the outer part of the wheel? The wheel makes the same number of revolutions no matter where you put the magnet/sensor. Since the thing is just counting revolutions and doing the math with your tire diameter, you can put the magnet/sensor where ever it's convenient. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 18:42:21 1999 Return-Path: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA24530 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:42:10 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (14455) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id cWWAa27691; Mon, 17 May 1999 18:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 18:40:13 EDT Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ To: 2xracers@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/17/1999 1:10:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 2xracers@XXXXXX writes: << If you think you'd like to attend, please drop me a quick note so I'll have an idea of the headcount. I'll post more specifics as we get closer to the date. >> I'd love to attend but, will be out of town celebrating on the water. Have fun though. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Mon May 17 23:22:05 1999 Return-Path: asikes@XXXXXX Received: from mail.rlc.net (mail.rlc.net [208.6.87.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA29408 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:22:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default [208.6.87.93] by mail.rlc.net (SMTPD32-4.06) id ACB8C680134; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:21:28 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19990518032337.006f927c@mail.vt.edu> X-Sender: asikes@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:23:37 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Amy L. Sikes" UNSUBSCRIBE From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 08:00:55 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09257 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:00:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A66C60001BC; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:00:44 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990518075015.012b4b50@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:52:01 -0400 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re[2]: BC1100 Setup ?'s In-Reply-To: <19990517160822578-1064238@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I remember experimenting with that some time ago using the old "mouse on a phonograph record" method. :-) Chris Norloff At 04:06 PM 5/17/99 , Tom Zell wrote: >I made a mock setup with a CD and a magic marker to get a view of what goes on >and I answered my question. Not too hard I guess... I just needed to see it. > >Tom > >____________________Reply Separator____________________ >Subject: Re: BC1100 Setup ?'s >Author: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) >Date: 5/17/99 3:35 PM > >At 03:21 PM 5/17/99 -0400, Tom Zell wrote: >>My question though is this... Does it matter where you place the sensor in >>relation to the wheel? Here's a better way of putting it... Let's say that I >>mount the magnet and the sensor close to the wheel hub (I think John K's is >>setup like this on his VF) and then I enter the circumference of the wheel >into >>the computer. Will it take the same reading as having the sensor mounted high >>on the fork with the magnet on the outer part of the wheel? > >The wheel makes the same number of revolutions no matter where you put the >magnet/sensor. Since the thing is just counting revolutions and doing the >math with your tire diameter, you can put the magnet/sensor where ever it's >convenient. > >Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 08:33:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA09920 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19876 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:33:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA29099 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:33:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id IAA08543 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:33:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BEA109.0AB78710@XXXXXX>; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:33:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Tools Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:33:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I heard about a new(ish) Web site that has every tool and then some. Does anyone know the URL? -OR- better yet, has anyone deal with a large automotive/motorycle tool outlet?? TIA. John 98VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 08:39:24 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10031 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:39:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA19922 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA29187 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id FAA16029 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 18 May 1999 05:39:18 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 18 May 1999 05:39:18 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Tools Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 05:39:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Try McMaster-Carr www.mcmaster-carr.com -----Original Message----- From: Carver, John [mailto:jcarver@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 08:33 To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: Tools I heard about a new(ish) Web site that has every tool and then some. Does anyone know the URL? -OR- better yet, has anyone deal with a large automotive/motorycle tool outlet?? TIA. John 98VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 08:41:22 1999 Return-Path: AArcone@XXXXXX Received: from bethmailrelay2.usgen.com (pubfw1.usgen.com [208.218.176.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10052 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by bethmailrelay2.usgen.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:41:39 -0400 Message-ID: <9C93A1814F2FD211B29600805FA6CC7C01E79645@bethexch1.usgen.com> From: "Arcone, Anthony" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: For Sale... Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:41:21 -0400 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <9C93A1814F2FD211B29600805FA6CC7C01E79645@XXXXXX> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BEA12B.C5EA7B20" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEA12B.C5EA7B20 Content-Type: text/plain I'm new to the list, so don't know if this is the appropriate place for an ad, but I'd rather to sell to a lister than a random from the Post. If you know anyone with interest, please forward along. 1986 Honda Shadow 500; shaft drive 13,000 miles on VA back roads, excellent condition, obviously perfect beginner bike Tank Bag & Cover Asking $1800 H) 202-986-5901 aarcone@XXXXXX ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEA12B.C5EA7B20 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IigMAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQWAAwAOAAAAzwcFABIACAApABUAAgA1AQEggAMADgAAAM8HBQAS AAgAKQAmAAIARgEBCYABACEAAAA0MTY3RUMzRkYwMENEMzExQjJCMjAwODA1RkE2Q0M3QwA3BwEE gAEADAAAAEZvciBTYWxlLi4uAFYDAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEDkAYATAcAAC0AAAADAACACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABShQAA8xUAAB4AAYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFSFAAABAAAABQAA ADguMDQAAAAAAwADgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAAYUAAAAAAAALAASACCAGAAAAAADAAAAA AAAARgAAAAADhQAAAAAAAAsABYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAA6FAAAAAAAAAwAGgAggBgAA AAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEIUAAAAAAAADAAeACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAARhQAAAAAAAAMA CIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABiFAAAAAAAAHgAJgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAANoUA AAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4ACoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADeFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAAuA CCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA4hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAAgEJEAEAAAAcAgAAGAIAAKQCAABM WkZ1YUHofAMACgByY3BnMTI1FjIA+Atgbg4QMDMz6QFVMzYB6CACpAPjAgAEY2gKwHNldDAgrwcT AoMAUBEfVQMAdgSQ0QQgNTcgCFBuAQAAgB8JgAKDDlAC8hF5VGFoywNxAoB9CoF1YwBQCwMHDNAB wQumIEknbSASbgfRdG8ZMGhlIEJsBAB0LCBzGVBkxQIgJwVAa25vB+AGkB8ZYQQAGuAEIBlyYXBw twNgHAAHMHQZkAtRYxmQJwIQBcADkWFkGfBideMFQBjAZCByHGAZgAXA2xlBEdBsAyAZQWEZox5y /xGgHVEeIRTAA3Ac8ANhGWNkUG8Z0C4gGLAbAHnfCGAalABwIfAZACAD8BlwPxrgAjAEkAeQGeEL UGVhexHQHPJ3CxEb0AkADyAuBwqiCoQKgDE5ODYgdkgUsR9QUxGgGkAH4DX4MDA7GgARoAGAGjAF ELMUICWVMywnIBIAbQMQYweRAiAgVkEdoADQazUeIG8dcHMZ8CU0ZXh/HNAe8AnwBUAFoBTAIwBp IwIgGfBvYnYrwHVzbGx5HJAEkGYFkAVAYhxlZwuAGQAFwGJpawsoBRaQbinQQmFnII4mFJEUISU0 QXNrC4AxLtAkMTgnICU6SCkSIAHQMi0mAS01OTYwF3MKgGEKwCthZUBVLGBnCfAuBaBtEqQx7jYl NRVyM/A3JTgXzSU0BRcRADcwCwACAAEAAAAeAHAAAQAAAAwAAABGb3IgU2FsZS4uLgACAXEAAQAA ABYAAAABvqErNNkHR3acDRwR04RAAGCwofo8AABAADkAoNmruyuhvgEDAPE/CQQAAB4AMUABAAAA CAAAAEFBUkNPTkUAAwAaQAAAAAAeADBAAQAAAAgAAABBQVJDT05FAAMAGUAAAAAAAwD9P+QEAAAD ACYAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAAwCAEP////8CAUcAAQAAADIAAABjPVVTO2E9IDtwPVVTR0VOO2w9QkVU SEVYQ0gxLTk5MDUxODEyNDEyMVotMzMxOTMxAAAAAgH5PwEAAABcAAAAAAAAANynQMjAQhAatLkI ACsv4YIBAAAAAAAAAC9PPVVTR0VOL09VPUJFVEhTSVRFL0NOPVJFQ0lQSUVOVFMvQ049QlBPV0VS IFRSQURJTkcvQ049QUFSQ09ORQAeAPg/AQAAABAAAABBcmNvbmUsIEFudGhvbnkAHgA4QAEAAAAI AAAAQUFSQ09ORQACAfs/AQAAAFwAAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgAKy/hggEAAAAAAAAAL089VVNH RU4vT1U9QkVUSFNJVEUvQ049UkVDSVBJRU5UUy9DTj1CUE9XRVIgVFJBRElORy9DTj1BQVJDT05F AB4A+j8BAAAAEAAAAEFyY29uZSwgQW50aG9ueQAeADlAAQAAAAgAAABBQVJDT05FAEAABzD+2aje KqG+AUAACDAge+rFK6G+AR4APQABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAB0OAQAAAAwAAABGb3IgU2FsZS4uLgAe ADUQAQAAAD8AAAA8OUM5M0ExODE0RjJGRDIxMUIyOTYwMDgwNUZBNkNDN0MwMUU3OTY0NUBiZXRo ZXhjaDEudXNnZW4uY29tPgAACwApAAAAAAALACMAAAAAAAMABhDjOzCoAwAHEDUBAAADABAQAAAA AAMAERAAAAAAHgAIEAEAAABlAAAASU1ORVdUT1RIRUxJU1QsU09ET05US05PV0lGVEhJU0lTVEhF QVBQUk9QUklBVEVQTEFDRUZPUkFOQUQsQlVUSURSQVRIRVJUT1NFTExUT0FMSVNURVJUSEFOQVJB TkRPTUZSTwAAAAACAX8AAQAAAD8AAAA8OUM5M0ExODE0RjJGRDIxMUIyOTYwMDgwNUZBNkNDN0Mw MUU3OTY0NUBiZXRoZXhjaDEudXNnZW4uY29tPgAANH0= ------_=_NextPart_000_01BEA12B.C5EA7B20-- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 08:59:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA10384 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:59:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA20306 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:59:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA29635 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A43517502A4; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:59:33 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990518085313.01323c40@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:00:31 -0400 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Tools In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:33 AM 5/18/99 , Carver, John wrote: >I heard about a new(ish) Web site that has every tool and then some. >Does anyone know the URL? -OR- better yet, has anyone deal with a large >automotive/motorycle tool outlet?? TIA. Here's some: http://www.harborfreight.com/ http://www.mcmaster.com/products.html http://www.northern-online.com/home.html Northern and Harbor Freight both sell inexpensive imported stuff (with American-sounding names). I've got some great stuff there and it's not as variable as JCWhitney, but buyer beware. If you want usually-adequate tools, Sears Craftsman is at http://www.craftsman.com/. If you want Real Tools, and are prepared to pay for them, try Snap-On at http://www.snapon.com/ (get the local distributor's name from customer service). Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 09:27:04 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10888 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:27:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id JAA00209 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990518092515.00a99380@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:27:51 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: a simple question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok, Why the Y(*%#$ is it that dealers feel the need to tighten oil filter with what must be incredibly mal-adjusted torque wrenches??? I hate to have to resort to the hammer and screwdriver method to get oil filters off... I must have hammered the thing a good full turn before I could even BUDGE it with my hands. But, on the upside, the first 500 miles are over (not bad for 5 days of ownership)... 8k here I come. grant From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 09:27:30 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10952 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA19969 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:27:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:27:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Commuting on a YSR50 Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If the guy commuting on the YSR50 down Rockville Pike is out there - thanks, you put a smile on my face! :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 09:37:09 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA11125 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 06:36:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: a simple question... Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 06:36:54 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Grant, Sounds like you've got that SV almost ready for the rest of the DC-Cycles crew now.. :) Make sure to break her in real nice and easy so we get good longevity out of the engine. We wouldn't want her puttering out along some fantasitc ride (especially if I'm riding!) - Oh, and I promise not to race her to hard (you Will get the bike to me a week before the next WERA weekend so I can get everything drilled and wired, right?) *grin* I'm only kidding... unless you're willing.. ;) Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Grant Heffernan [mailto:granth@XXXXXX] > But, on the upside, the first 500 miles are over (not bad for > 5 days of ownership)... 8k here I come. > grant > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 10:23:25 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11959 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FBX00F1QL6SUF@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:52:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id NAA24527; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:51:26 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990518135143.GHMX32591@toddnt>; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:51:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:49:23 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: a simple question... In-reply-to: <4.1.19990518092515.00a99380@fedsco.sco.com> To: Grant Heffernan , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000701bea135$3c514410$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > Ok, > Why the Y(*%#$ is it that dealers feel the need to tighten oil filter with > what must be incredibly mal-adjusted torque wrenches??? > I hate to have to resort to the hammer and screwdriver method to get oil > filters off... I must have hammered the thing a good full turn before I > could even BUDGE it with my hands. > But, on the upside, the first 500 miles are over (not bad for 5 days of > ownership)... 8k here I come. > grant I've often wondered about this too. What I think is that some people fail to coat the rubber o-ring with a thin layer of oil (spin on filters) first. Then after hand tightening, they add a turn of the wrench. I never use a wrench on my filters. I get them clean, and hand tighten them on as hard as I can. Never had one leak and never needed more than a leather strap to break them free. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 10:28:33 1999 Return-Path: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12097 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:28:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from Lordorange@XXXXXX (14424) by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2LAZa02610 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:26:39 EDT Subject: Hank Conte's Funeral Procession - Fri 6:45am To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Hello all, I've listed the info below for Hank Conte's funeral procession this coming Friday. It's early in the morning, but you are all welcome to ride with us. -matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------- Funeral Procession will depart Loudoun Funeral Chapel at 6:45 AM on Friday, 21 May 1999 for the internment at Arlington National Cemetery at 8:45 AM. This is a full military service, so plan on being there awhile, but it is a very impressive tribute. So far I have been unable to get in touch with family members to ask about motorcycles in the procession, but the funeral director didn't think the family would object. The motorcycle is the only way many knew Hank, and I think he would be disappointed in us if we missed a chance to RIDE. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 10:36:18 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12308 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:36:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 07:35:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: a simple question... Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:35:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I suspect it has something to do with liability.. the shop wants to make ABSOLUTLY sure the thing doesn't spin off and cause an accident which they could be sued for. Me.. I do the same as Todd - only I don't ever even need a leather strap to break them free.. I can typically do it with bare hands. I'm going to start saftey-wiring mine on though.. just to be safe. Brian > > Ok, > > Why the Y(*%#$ is it that dealers feel the need to tighten > oil filter with > > what must be incredibly mal-adjusted torque wrenches??? > I've often wondered about this too. What I think is that > some people fail > to coat the rubber o-ring with a thin layer of oil (spin on > filters) first. > Then after hand tightening, they add a turn of the wrench. > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 10:39:19 1999 Return-Path: berman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12318 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12810 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:39:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: RE: a simple question... In-Reply-To: <000701bea135$3c514410$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Heh, heh, heh....he said leather strap... What's that tool for? ;) -Mb PS I couldn't let that go by! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams On Tue, 18 May 1999, Todd Peer wrote: > > > Ok, > > Why the Y(*%#$ is it that dealers feel the need to tighten oil filter with > > what must be incredibly mal-adjusted torque wrenches??? > > I hate to have to resort to the hammer and screwdriver method to get oil > > filters off... I must have hammered the thing a good full turn before I > > could even BUDGE it with my hands. > > But, on the upside, the first 500 miles are over (not bad for 5 days of > > ownership)... 8k here I come. > > grant > > I've often wondered about this too. What I think is that some people fail > to coat the rubber o-ring with a thin layer of oil (spin on filters) first. > Then after hand tightening, they add a turn of the wrench. > > I never use a wrench on my filters. I get them clean, and hand tighten them > on as hard as I can. Never had one leak and never needed more than a > leather strap to break them free. > > Todd > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 10:43:44 1999 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA12439 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.MIL ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08511 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:43:00 -0400 Message-ID: <6B6E7568D1C6D211A48C00600832A5B10E2F32@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LT" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FW: RD-400 stuff Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:42:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Well all.. this is a really good deal if someone is interested in trying roadracing cheap. I won't lie to you. You probably won't win any races on an RD-400, but you WILL have tons of fun for very little money it appears... read on below... Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LT > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:25 PM > To: 'JOE NAGY' > Subject: RD-400 stuff > > Hey Joe, not sure if you're interested or not, but here's some RD's at > what looks like a good deal... if you aren't interested, you might forward > to dc-cycles since a couple of folks have mentioned entry level racing... > > -----Original Message----- > From: race@XXXXXX [SMTP:race@XXXXXX] > S > > Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:54:45 -0400 (EDT) > From: Craig Faison > To: race@XXXXXX > Subject: RD400's for sale > Message-ID: > > Well, in one of my gotta have it now buying spree's, I have ended up with > 4 RD400's, and may be looking to get rid of them... I was looking for > something cheap to race, in addition to the YSR's, and the RD's looked > like just the thing. I stumbled into a package deal on them, and promptly > bought 'em up. Since then I haven't touched them, but I stumbled into > something more suited to what I want out of a racebike. So, I'm just > looking to get out of the RD's... here's what I have: > > 1977 RD400 - clean and complete, PO says it needs a new top end. Has > tapered steering head bearings, progressive springs, rear sets, Coffman > (sp?) pipes, steering damper, etc. Titled and has all street stuff on it. > > 1977 RD400 - clean and complete, PO says it has a countershaft or shift > shaft seal leak. Has DG (I think) pipes and some other odd's and ends. Is > supposed to run well. Titled and has all street stuff on it. > > 1977 RD400 - parts bike. It's all there, I think. Has rearsets, steering > damper and pipes - again, I think DG's (could be Factory, I shoulda > checked before posting). > > 1976 RD400 - parts bike. Really not worth much, but it has wheels, forks, > brakes, etc. > > Spare wheels and other small misc. > > I haven't messed with any of them to see whether what the PO says is > accurate or not. The two clean ones turn over freely and have good > compression. The two clean ones are really pretty nice, and the others are > parts bikes w/good tanks, wheels, brakes, frames, forks, motor, etc. > There's more than enough to build one or two nice racebikes, or a racer > and a streeter, etc. > > $500 takes it all(!), located in Delaware. Trades considered I guess, > FZR4/6 parts, YSR stuff, beater bikes, whatever. ;-) > > thanks, > Craig Faison > cfaison@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 10:50:37 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA12600 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 10:50:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990518145042.14656.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 07:50:42 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:50:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: a simple question... To: Morris Berman , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Morris Berman wrote: > Heh, heh, heh....he said leather strap... > What's that tool for? ;) > he he he... I bet he uses it ON his tool!... he he he he he he good one Beavis... === Collin T. 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Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:03:38 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12812 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id IAA12935 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 18 May 1999 08:03:27 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 18 May 1999 08:03:27 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Hank Conte's Funeral Procession - Fri 6:45am Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:03:25 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Funeral Procession will depart Loudoun Funeral Chapel at 6:45 AM on Friday, Would this be the Leesburg or Lovettsville chapel?? From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:07:20 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12901 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:06:09 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:06:01 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:03:01 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: FW: RD-400 stuff -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I hope this thing is as good as it sounds, and it tears me up that I can't buy it. Hope someone here does, then maybe we could work a deal with Summit Point, say, free entry in exchange for killing all their mosquitos . . . Joe RD 400F (the rabid skunk, the cloud of mosquito death) >>> "Fagan, Collin LT" - 5/18/99 10:42 AM >>> Well all.. this is a really good deal if someone is interested in trying roadracing cheap. I won't lie to you. You probably won't win any races on an RD-400, but you WILL have tons of fun for very little money it appears... read on below... Collin > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LT > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:25 PM > To: 'JOE NAGY' > Subject: RD-400 stuff > > Hey Joe, not sure if you're interested or not, but here's some RD's at > what looks like a good deal... if you aren't interested, you might forward > to dc-cycles since a couple of folks have mentioned entry level racing... > > -----Original Message----- > From: race@XXXXXX [SMTP:race@XXXXXX] > S > > Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:54:45 -0400 (EDT) > From: Craig Faison > To: race@XXXXXX > Subject: RD400's for sale > Message-ID: > > Well, in one of my gotta have it now buying spree's, I have ended up with > 4 RD400's, and may be looking to get rid of them... I was looking for > something cheap to race, in addition to the YSR's, and the RD's looked > like just the thing. I stumbled into a package deal on them, and promptly > bought 'em up. Since then I haven't touched them, but I stumbled into > something more suited to what I want out of a racebike. So, I'm just > looking to get out of the RD's... here's what I have: > > 1977 RD400 - clean and complete, PO says it needs a new top end. Has > tapered steering head bearings, progressive springs, rear sets, Coffman > (sp?) pipes, steering damper, etc. Titled and has all street stuff on it. > > 1977 RD400 - clean and complete, PO says it has a countershaft or shift > shaft seal leak. Has DG (I think) pipes and some other odd's and ends. Is > supposed to run well. Titled and has all street stuff on it. > > 1977 RD400 - parts bike. It's all there, I think. Has rearsets, steering > damper and pipes - again, I think DG's (could be Factory, I shoulda > checked before posting). > > 1976 RD400 - parts bike. Really not worth much, but it has wheels, forks, > brakes, etc. > > Spare wheels and other small misc. > > I haven't messed with any of them to see whether what the PO says is > accurate or not. The two clean ones turn over freely and have good > compression. The two clean ones are really pretty nice, and the others are > parts bikes w/good tanks, wheels, brakes, frames, forks, motor, etc. > There's more than enough to build one or two nice racebikes, or a racer > and a streeter, etc. > > $500 takes it all(!), located in Delaware. Trades considered I guess, > FZR4/6 parts, YSR stuff, beater bikes, whatever. ;-) > > thanks, > Craig Faison > cfaison@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:07:51 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net (dfw7-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12921 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:07:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by dfw7sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgptc27344; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:07:25 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256775.00539514 ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:12:56 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: Morris Berman cc: DC Cycles Message-ID: <85256775.00539412.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:59:37 -0400 Subject: RE: a simple question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Don't EVEN say it, Brian! ; ) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 Morris Berman on 05/18/99 10:39:13 AM To: DC Cycles cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: RE: a simple question... Heh, heh, heh....he said leather strap... What's that tool for? ;) -Mb PS I couldn't let that go by! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:13:13 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web308.yahoomail.com (web308.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.225]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA13021 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990518151541.22098.rocketmail@web308.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web308.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:15:41 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:15:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: FW: RD-400 stuff To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oh yeah, I forgot to mention two things. 1. The seller (Craig) is a regular on the race list and has sounded very reputable over the past 2.5 years that I've "known" him... 2. Put go go juice in my truck, and I'd be happy to drive up to Delaware with you to pick them up... CT === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:24:38 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13245 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:24:37 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLMTA8; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:24:34 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7M4L9; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:24:35 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256775.0054A41D ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:24:30 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256775.0054549D.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:22:26 -0400 Subject: Chicken Stripes Uh, excuse me....what are chicken stripes? DJ 97 YZF1000R aka "STORM" --->(name change) From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:38:34 1999 Return-Path: bnorton@XXXXXX Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13489 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (user190.anent.com [208.195.115.190]) by netgate.anent.com (2.6 Build 1 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA04507 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:37:15 -0400 Message-ID: <02ac01bea144$77cfaea0$be73c3d0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: Subject: Re: Chicken Stripes Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:38:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 The unused portions on the edges of tires on bikes ridden by people with a fear of leaning. >Uh, excuse me....what are chicken stripes? > >DJ >97 YZF1000R aka "STORM" --->(name change) From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:39:16 1999 Return-Path: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13499 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:39:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from Lordorange@XXXXXX (3889) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nJTBa09694; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:36:46 EDT Subject: Re: Hank Conte's Funeral Procession - Fri 6:45am To: mike@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 In a message dated 5/18/99 11:10:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << >Funeral Procession will depart Loudoun Funeral Chapel at 6:45 AM on Friday, Would this be the Leesburg or Lovettsville chapel?? >> Sorry, it's the Leesburg Chapel. -matt From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:40:10 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13522 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA23244 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:40:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Chicken Stripes In-Reply-To: <85256775.0054549D.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 18 May 1999 djones@XXXXXX wrote: > Uh, excuse me....what are chicken stripes? The portion of tread on your tires that's never touched the road. I can only assume that the "Chicken" part comes from being afraid of leaning the bike over all the way, thereby actually using the extreme edge of your tires. If your chicken stripes are a couple of inches wide there may be a problem with your riding style... Bikes are meant to be leaned over! However, you really shouldn't play at extreme lean angles without significant riding experience. Check out www.activebike.com for thoughtful articles on such topics. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:50:39 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13763 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:51:13 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC93E@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Chicken Stripes Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:43:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain DJ, Chicken stripe refers to the unused portion of your tread on the outer edge of the tire. The more you're willing to lean the bike, the narrower your chicken stripes will be. Have fun, Perry > -----Original Message----- > From: djones@XXXXXX [SMTP:djones@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 11:22 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Chicken Stripes > > Uh, excuse me....what are chicken stripes? > > DJ > 97 YZF1000R aka "STORM" --->(name change) > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:51:28 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil ([137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13775 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 08:50:41 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Chicken Stripes Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:50:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) ever the diplomatic face (when in the public eye) ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: Kirk Roy [mailto:kirk@XXXXXX] > However, you > really shouldn't play at extreme lean angles without > significant riding > experience. Check out www.activebike.com for thoughtful > articles on such > topics. > > Kirk > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 11:51:56 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA13807 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:51:55 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLMTJP; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:51:59 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7M40L; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:51:59 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256775.005724D5 ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:51:50 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256775.0055C360.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:49:51 -0400 Subject: RE: Chicken Stripes Thanks, Brian....if you look at my rear tire, then I would definitly be classified a "squid"... But I'm not...Honest! ;) DJ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:14:02 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14258 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:14:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 18 May 1999 15:21:41 UT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:12 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: BC1100 again... Message-ID: <19990518101427921-4e89a56@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK.... I installed the BC1100 on Jeannette's VFR last night... too cool, but my next question is this: I used a tire size calculator to that would convert a metric size to the diameter in inches. For her tire... a 120/70ZR17... I got a measurement of 23.6". The BC instructions say that you can take the diameter in inches and multiply by 4.95 to get the correct WS for the BC. Well... I did this and it gave me in the end a WS of 1168. Now for the question... in relation to motorcycle tires... if the tire is sized such as above, does that mean that all tires made by whomever will have the same diameter? Basically, is my WS correct? I was by myself when finishing up the installation and didn't want to go through the hassle of trying to get a string around the wheel. When I took it out for a test ride though, the speedo and the BC were fairly close until I got up in the 50 MPH range. They started to differ at that point (with the VFR being about 5MPH off). Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:18:08 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14347 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr42-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.76.123]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0FBX00AVDRX5WN@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:17:33 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:16:21 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: RD-400 stuff To: DC Cycles Message-id: <006701bea128$403a9f20$7b4c3ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Does anyone have a garage I can borrow? Damn, I'd take them in a second! If I had the space, I'd be parting out my 600 right now...... Mmmm, 2 strokes. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Fagan, Collin LT To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 2:55 PM Subject: FW: RD-400 stuff >Well all.. this is a really good deal if someone is interested in trying >roadracing cheap. I won't lie to you. You probably won't win any races on >an RD-400, but you WILL have tons of fun for very little money it appears... >read on below... >Collin > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fagan, Collin LT >> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 3:25 PM >> To: 'JOE NAGY' >> Subject: RD-400 stuff >> >> Hey Joe, not sure if you're interested or not, but here's some RD's at >> what looks like a good deal... if you aren't interested, you might forward >> to dc-cycles since a couple of folks have mentioned entry level racing... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: race@XXXXXX [SMTP:race@XXXXXX] >> S >> >> Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:54:45 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Craig Faison >> To: race@XXXXXX >> Subject: RD400's for sale >> Message-ID: >> >> Well, in one of my gotta have it now buying spree's, I have ended up with >> 4 RD400's, and may be looking to get rid of them... I was looking for >> something cheap to race, in addition to the YSR's, and the RD's looked >> like just the thing. I stumbled into a package deal on them, and promptly >> bought 'em up. Since then I haven't touched them, but I stumbled into >> something more suited to what I want out of a racebike. So, I'm just >> looking to get out of the RD's... here's what I have: >> >> 1977 RD400 - clean and complete, PO says it needs a new top end. Has >> tapered steering head bearings, progressive springs, rear sets, Coffman >> (sp?) pipes, steering damper, etc. Titled and has all street stuff on it. >> >> 1977 RD400 - clean and complete, PO says it has a countershaft or shift >> shaft seal leak. Has DG (I think) pipes and some other odd's and ends. Is >> supposed to run well. Titled and has all street stuff on it. >> >> 1977 RD400 - parts bike. It's all there, I think. Has rearsets, steering >> damper and pipes - again, I think DG's (could be Factory, I shoulda >> checked before posting). >> >> 1976 RD400 - parts bike. Really not worth much, but it has wheels, forks, >> brakes, etc. >> >> Spare wheels and other small misc. >> >> I haven't messed with any of them to see whether what the PO says is >> accurate or not. The two clean ones turn over freely and have good >> compression. The two clean ones are really pretty nice, and the others are >> parts bikes w/good tanks, wheels, brakes, frames, forks, motor, etc. >> There's more than enough to build one or two nice racebikes, or a racer >> and a streeter, etc. >> >> $500 takes it all(!), located in Delaware. Trades considered I guess, >> FZR4/6 parts, YSR stuff, beater bikes, whatever. ;-) >> >> thanks, >> Craig Faison >> cfaison@XXXXXX >> >> > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:22:41 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14448 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA24262 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:22:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: BC1100 again... In-Reply-To: <19990518101427921-4e89a56@fanniemaefoundation.org> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 18 May 1999, Tom Zell wrote: > if the tire is sized such as above, does that mean > that all tires made by whomever will have the same diameter? By no means! Even after measuring my tires I would continue to dial in the calibration of my computer using mile markers (which are often wrong too). Every time you put a new tire on you'll need to recalibrate, assuming you want maximum precision. > Basically, is my WS correct? It may be close enough, depending on your definition of that! Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:26:02 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14461 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990518162848.13237.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web306.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:28:48 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:28:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: BC1100 again... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tom, the 4.95 is a conversion factor to take your diameter and convert it to circumference in mm I believe.... To be completely accurate, you'll need to measure the exact diameter of the tire (or circumference with chalk and rolling the bike forward) and enter in the data, since all tires are different, even from the same manufacturer.. Collin --- Tom Zell wrote: > OK.... I installed the BC1100 on Jeannette's VFR last night... too > cool, but my > next question is this: > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:30:14 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14659 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:30:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA17215; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:29:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv13-31.ix.netcom.com(206.217.114.95) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017187; Tue May 18 11:29:21 1999 Message-ID: <002101bea14b$49c4b580$5f72d9ce@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: , "Grant Heffernan" References: <4.1.19990518092515.00a99380@fedsco.sco.com> Subject: Re: a simple question... Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:27:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 I sure hope 8k was a misprint though, there is not a bike out there that = you should go that far between oil changes regardless of what a manual = or oil company says. For the expense its worth it every 2 to 3 k at = most. besides its s fun job on a lousy day Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From: Grant Heffernan > ownership)... 8k here I come. > grant >=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:33:26 1999 Return-Path: the_horkster@XXXXXX Received: from web805.mail.yahoo.com (web805.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14696 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990518163811.28160.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [166.32.112.69] by web805.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:38:11 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:38:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: BC1100 again... To: "Collin T. Fagan" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Everybody Duck! Collin is talking Metrics again! :) Dale --- "Collin T. Fagan" wrote: > Tom, the 4.95 is a conversion factor to take your diameter and > convert > it to circumference in mm I believe.... === Dale Horstman (The Horkster) the_horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:33:57 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14712 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:33:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id MAA28592; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:36:00 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:35:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: more free stuff Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The garage cleanup continues slowly and painfully... Free: GS-650 motor, condition unknown, no electrics. KZ 440 exhaust, drive belt, r sprocket Some Suzuki 550 exhaust parts (early 1980s) Plus the stuff previously listed. These items will be trashed Thursday or Friday, so move it or lose it. --garcia "It seemed like a good idea...at the time." From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:36:43 1999 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA14811 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.119.40.21] by usdotmh.dot.gov with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:36:43 -0400 Received: by rspa-exchange.rspa.dot.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:38:37 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Burger, Donald" To: Tom Zell , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: BC1100 again... Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:38:28 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Tom The easiest way to get the proper size is to have Jeanette sit on the bike (to compress the tire a little) and put a dot or stripe of paint on the tire and then role the bike in a straight line and measure between the dots. This will give you the correct diameter within a couple of millimeters. Don B > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Zell [SMTP:TZell@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 12:23 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Cc: Burger, Donald > Subject: BC1100 again... > > OK.... I installed the BC1100 on Jeannette's VFR last night... too cool, > but > my > next question is this: > > I used a tire size calculator to that would convert a metric size to the > diameter in inches. For her tire... a 120/70ZR17... I got a measurement > of > 23.6". The BC instructions say that you can take the diameter in inches > and > multiply by 4.95 to get the correct WS for the BC. Well... I did this and > it > gave me in the end a WS of 1168. Now for the question... in relation to > motorcycle tires... if the tire is sized such as above, does that mean > that > all > tires made by whomever will have the same diameter? Basically, is my WS > correct? > > I was by myself when finishing up the installation and didn't want to go > through > the hassle of trying to get a string around the wheel. When I took it out > for > a > test ride though, the speedo and the BC were fairly close until I got up > in > the > 50 MPH range. They started to differ at that point (with the VFR being > about > 5MPH off). > > Tom > '86 VFR750 > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:55:41 1999 Return-Path: mriderleon@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f220.hotmail.com [209.185.130.158]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA15271 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:55:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 8609 invoked by uid 0); 18 May 1999 16:54:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990518165455.8608.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.229.31.22 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:54:55 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.229.31.22] Reply-To: mrider@XXXXXX From: "Leon Begeman" To: TZell@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: BC1100 again... Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:54:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; An easier way to measure the circumference of a tire is to put a chalk mark on the tire, and another on the street where it touches. With a rider on the bike, roll it forward until the chalk mark is back on the street. Make another chalk mark there. For better accuracy, you can roll it through several rotations. There are 25.4 mm in each inch, so take the circumference in inches, mutliply it by 25.4 and enter it directly into the bicycle computer. Leon. >From: "Tom Zell" >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" >Subject: BC1100 again... >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:12 -0400 > >OK.... I installed the BC1100 on Jeannette's VFR last night... too cool, >but my >next question is this: > >I used a tire size calculator to that would convert a metric size to the >diameter in inches. For her tire... a 120/70ZR17... I got a measurement of >23.6". The BC instructions say that you can take the diameter in inches >and >multiply by 4.95 to get the correct WS for the BC. Well... I did this and >it >gave me in the end a WS of 1168. Now for the question... in relation to >motorcycle tires... if the tire is sized such as above, does that mean that >all >tires made by whomever will have the same diameter? Basically, is my WS >correct? > >I was by myself when finishing up the installation and didn't want to go >through >the hassle of trying to get a string around the wheel. When I took it out >for a >test ride though, the speedo and the BC were fairly close until I got up in >the >50 MPH range. They started to differ at that point (with the VFR being >about >5MPH off). > >Tom >'86 VFR750 > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:57:11 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15372 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id MAA02893; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:57:02 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id MAA20109; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:57:03 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: a simple question... In-Reply-To: <002101bea14b$49c4b580$5f72d9ce@oemcomputer> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The VFR owners manual recommends changing the oil and filter every 8k miles. Even though they recommend that you use Honda oil I guess they're not that concerned with trying to sell it in huge amounts. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 18 May 1999, Ken wrote: > I sure hope 8k was a misprint though, there is not a bike out there that you should go that far between oil changes regardless of what a manual or oil company says. For the expense its worth it every 2 to 3 k at most. besides its s fun job on a lousy day > Ken S. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:58:16 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil ([137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15412 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 09:57:30 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: oil wars.. Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:53:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) To each their own... but Synthetics CAN and DO go that long (Hey Collin, how long has it been since you changed the oil in your truck?) Hell, my indication on when to change oil in my bike is when I feel the transmition start to get a bit sloppy. The shifts aren't smooth and firm - this typically happens about the 4~5k mark. I change the oil, filter and do the valves all at the same time. The oil's dark, but colour is NO indication of how well it's protecting. In drawing a magnet through my oil (to pick up any metal that may be floating around, not only in the oil but in the engine.. indicating wear) - it comes out with more than that is normal (read, VERY fine particles.. and only a little of that). Perhaps my engine's harder on oil than say, a Harley.. because of the higher engine RPM.. then the oil in a Harley should last another 2~3k more miles. Yes, changing oil IS cheap insurance.. but there's a difference between that and just plain tossing money away... Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:shephar1@XXXXXX] > I sure hope 8k was a misprint though, there is not a bike out > there that you should go that far between oil changes > regardless of what a manual or oil company says. For the > expense its worth it every 2 to 3 k at most. besides its s > fun job on a lousy day From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 12:58:28 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA15424 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:58:27 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLMTZD; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:58:30 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7MW1J; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:58:30 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256775.005D3B5C ; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:58:20 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256775.005C48C4.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:56:10 -0400 Subject: RE: Chicken Stripes I've installed (2) safety devices that I think deserves some air-play. First device I've installed is called "rump lights". These turn the signals on all of the time when not in use. My wife says that they're very bright & highly visible. Also I installed "break alert". When the hand break is engaged, the break light pulsates off & on alerting the driver from behind. Every little bit helps. One other thing I like to do, is if someone is tailgating you, pop a wheely, & the tailgating cager always slams on the breaks, because they think, your going to flip it ;) DJ & STORM Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX on 05/18/99 12:34:54 PM To: Douglas Jones/DSI/BAISG cc: Subject: RE: Chicken Stripes I got hit from behind and pushed into a car infront while doing about 40mph.. Saturday morning (10am?) about 2 months ago... > -----Original Message----- > From: djones@XXXXXX [mailto:djones@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 12:20 PM > To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Chicken Stripes > > > bummer, how did you fall? > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 13:26:34 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA15988 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:26:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24332 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.mindspring.com (smtp2.mindspring.com [207.69.200.32]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA06755 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:26:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hgg (user-2ivei9r.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.73.59]) by smtp2.mindspring.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA06369; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:25:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990518132733.007e8760@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: hggmd@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:27:33 -0400 To: "Carver, John" From: "Harry Greenspun, MD" Subject: Re: Tools Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:33 AM 5/18/99 -0400, Carver, John wrote: >Does anyone know the URL? -OR- better yet, has anyone deal with a large >automotive/motorycle tool outlet?? John, You should also check out ebay, http://www.ebay.com. There are always hundreds of auctions on Craftsman (and other tools). With the Craftsman lifetime guarantee, they're a pretty safe bet. I got a complete set of metric combination wrenches (6mm to 32mm) for $80. I also got (new, in box) Robo-grip pliers, (nib) Vise grips, 1/2" socket sets, (nib) metal shears, and a timing light for a fraction of what they would cost in the store. It seems like there are a couple sellers who have some source of wholesale Craftsman stuff. It's a great way to beef up your tool box without draining your wallet. Next treat... air tools. Harry Bethesda, MD '97 BMW R1100RT '93 Kawasaki ZX-11 (Abducted) http://www.greenspun.com/harry/bikes.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 13:30:15 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA16140 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FBX005UIV07DR@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:24:08 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA28148; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:24:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990518172351.IHMB32591@toddnt>; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:23:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:21:29 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Chicken Stripes In-reply-to: <85256775.005C48C4.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> To: djones@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <001c01bea152$ddd003e0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > One other thing I like to do, is if > someone is tailgating you, pop a wheely, & the tailgating cager always > slams on the breaks, because they think, your going to flip it ;) > > DJ & STORM Yup! Highly recommended in an urban environment. Make sure you do it in front of a kind LEO. I've noticed simply swerving back and forth wakes people up. They don't know WTF you're up to, so they back away. And it's easy enough to explain to any curious LEOs. Todd From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 14:01:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16714 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:00:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA10155 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA24798 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA07723 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:59:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 13:54:08 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Synthetic oil Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 13:54:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain I've heard several things about synthetic oil. My 1986 Magna VF700C has never had synthetic oil in it. How do I wean my bike from the dinosaur age? Is there a conversion process? Is my bike too old (19,000 miles)? Thanks in advance, Mitch From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 14:13:58 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16982 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id ADE14C701C8; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:13:53 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990518140938.01334140@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:11:21 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Deer on the road in Arlington! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On I-66 in Arlington today I saw a dead deer on the side of the road (eastbound, just before the Rosslyn/Key Bridge exit). Just a reminder that even in a fairly urban environment there's wildlife. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 14:18:54 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil ([137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17093 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:18:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:18:04 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Synthetic oil Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:17:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > I've heard several things about synthetic oil. My 1986 Magna > VF700C has > never had synthetic oil in it. How do I wean my bike from > the dinosaur age? > Is there a conversion process? Is my bike too old (19,000 miles)? Hrm.. well - I'm not 100% certain on this info.. but I believe I'm fairly close. You can, with high sucess, go from dino oil to synth without an issue with a couple of exceptions. If you have an oil leak/weep - it may get worse because synthetics have more cleaning additives and the particles are smaller.. meaning that if there's a spot some normal oil can escape from, more than some synth will come out the same spot. Actually.. that's the only exception I remember hearing about. The engine in my VFR went from unknown oil (bought it from a junkyard) to Mobil 1 15-50 oil at 15k miles (that's what the junkyard claimed the engine had.. who knows if that's the truth). I don't see how age or mileage should have any adverse effect on what kind of oil to use. But I'm probably wrong on something in this note.. I'm streching my memory on this info... Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 14:32:42 1999 Return-Path: Donald.Burger@XXXXXX Received: from usdotmh.dot.gov (usdotmh.dot.gov [152.119.25.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17406 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [152.119.40.21] by usdotmh.dot.gov with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:20:09 -0400 Received: by rspa-exchange.rspa.dot.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:22:02 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Burger, Donald" To: DC Cycles Subject: Rock Creek Park becoming a speed trap! Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:21:59 -0400 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Does anyone else on the list commute to work through Rock Creek Park? What's up with the Park Police and their new radar guns? I went for almost two years without ever seeing a radar gun and now they seem to be popping up everywhere. Traffic used to flow nicely on the Rock Creek Parkway and on Beach Drive. Now they are enforcing the 35/25 mph speed limit and it adds sucks. I'm not advocating reckless speeding, I think they should just let traffic flow at a sane pace, the way they used too. I guess the RC Parkway-Beach Drive merge was no longer generating enough revenue. Just some advice to anyone going that way - slow down and pay attention. Don B begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(@,2`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`06``P`.````SP<%`!(` M#@`5`#L``@!-`0$@@`,`#@```,\'!0`2``X`%@`!``(`%`$!"8`!`"$```!! M.$1&1C=!.3%!,$1$,S$Q.4$X-C`P0S`T1D$R.30P-0`S!P$$@`$`)P```%)O M8VL@0W)E96L@4&%R:R!B96-O;6EN9R!A('-P965D('1R87`A`%4-`0V`!``" M`````@`"``$#D`8`X`8``"D````+``(``0```$``.0!@;J]16Z&^`1X`<``! 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M4DM03TQ)0T5!3D142$5)4DY%5U)!1$%21U5.``````(!?P`!````1````#Q& M0CE".34T,#@T.$)$,C$Q0C$P.#`P03!#.44Y-3; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with SMTP id OAA20541; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990518145252.00a9a450@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:54:57 -0400 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" From: Grant Heffernan Subject: RE: Synthetic oil In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good synth oil (like Mobil 1) is compatible with conventional oil (it will say on the container). I love the stuff, personally. I had an old 90 CBR600F that shifted a little on the clunky side. Put some Mobil 1 15w50 in at and the difference was incredible! I'll be running it in the SV after break in... which reminds me, don't use synth for break in. At 11:17 AM 5/18/99 -0700, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >> I've heard several things about synthetic oil. My 1986 Magna >> VF700C has >> never had synthetic oil in it. How do I wean my bike from >> the dinosaur age? >> Is there a conversion process? Is my bike too old (19,000 miles)? > >Hrm.. well - I'm not 100% certain on this info.. but I believe I'm fairly >close. You can, with high sucess, go from dino oil to synth without an >issue with a couple of exceptions. If you have an oil leak/weep - it may >get worse because synthetics have more cleaning additives and the particles >are smaller.. meaning that if there's a spot some normal oil can escape >from, more than some synth will come out the same spot. Actually.. that's >the only exception I remember hearing about. > >The engine in my VFR went from unknown oil (bought it from a junkyard) to >Mobil 1 15-50 oil at 15k miles (that's what the junkyard claimed the engine >had.. who knows if that's the truth). I don't see how age or mileage should >have any adverse effect on what kind of oil to use. > > >But I'm probably wrong on something in this note.. I'm streching my memory >on this info... > >Brian ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 14:58:19 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17980 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA27830 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:58:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC Cycles Subject: Re: Rock Creek Park becoming a speed trap! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 18 May 1999, Burger, Donald wrote: > I guess the RC Parkway-Beach Drive merge was no longer generating > enough revenue. I'm going to bet that this isn't motivated by revenue but rather by the fact that Rock Creek Park roads were intended as park roads and not commuter routes. This has been an issue for a long time... There are groups (e.g., bicycling groups) that have lobbied to close the main roads through the Park to motorized traffic on weekdays as it is on the weekends. One of the entrances to Greenbelt Park was closed to stop commuter traffic. For the record, I don't commute that direction and have no vested interest either in commuting on the road or eliminating commuting on the road... Just reporting what I know. :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 14:58:52 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA17992 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA14100 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:58:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 11:57:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Synthetic oil Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:57:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > -----Original Message----- > From: Grant Heffernan [mailto:granth@XXXXXX] > I'll be running it in the SV > after break in... which reminds me, don't use synth for break in. > Oh-yea.. I knew I forgot something.. :) Actually, I've heard of some race-teams that use NO OIL for break-in (granted, break-in for them is 10 minutes of non-running, high-speed piston turning) - something about the properties of synth being so good that the rings don't wear and match up with the cylinder bores which leads to low compression and burning oil.. :P Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 15:02:33 1999 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18131 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:02:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.MIL ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02777 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 14:27:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:01:56 -0400 Message-ID: <6B6E7568D1C6D211A48C00600832A5B10E2F3D@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LT" To: "'dc'" Subject: FW: [gsxr] Bike picks Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:01:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Some very cool pics... not sure I'd recommend riding your race bike to the track, but it seems to work for some :) Check out the very trick headlight... Collin aka "crash" > -----Original Message----- > From: Glen Nesnevich [SMTP:glennesnevich@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 1:20 AM > To: Race List; GSX-R mailing list > Subject: [gsxr] Bike picks > > To those who asked to see the pictures of my bike here they are.... Glen > > http://home.sprintmail.com/~glennesnevich/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 15:22:41 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18565 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:22:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:21:51 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:21:46 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:17:57 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX, granth@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Synthetic oil -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Agree, break-in on dino, then go to synth. Since I've never heard of any probs involving the supposed incompatability of dino & synth, I'm starting to think it's an old wive's tale. to add to the fun anybody see the story about vegetable (bean) oil for IC engines the other night on Discovery Channel? they're testing it right now--and I'm even gonna describe what two guys were doing to their dipsticks! (it's non-poisonous) Joe >>> Grant Heffernan - 5/18/99 2:54 PM >>> Good synth oil (like Mobil 1) is compatible with conventional oil (it will say on the container). I love the stuff, personally. I had an old 90 CBR600F that shifted a little on the clunky side. Put some Mobil 1 15w50 in at and the difference was incredible! I'll be running it in the SV after break in... which reminds me, don't use synth for break in. At 11:17 AM 5/18/99 -0700, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >> I've heard several things about synthetic oil. My 1986 Magna >> VF700C has >> never had synthetic oil in it. How do I wean my bike from >> the dinosaur age? >> Is there a conversion process? Is my bike too old (19,000 miles)? > >Hrm.. well - I'm not 100% certain on this info.. but I believe I'm fairly >close. You can, with high sucess, go from dino oil to synth without an >issue with a couple of exceptions. If you have an oil leak/weep - it may >get worse because synthetics have more cleaning additives and the particles >are smaller.. meaning that if there's a spot some normal oil can escape >from, more than some synth will come out the same spot. Actually.. that's >the only exception I remember hearing about. > >The engine in my VFR went from unknown oil (bought it from a junkyard) to >Mobil 1 15-50 oil at 15k miles (that's what the junkyard claimed the engine >had.. who knows if that's the truth). I don't see how age or mileage should >have any adverse effect on what kind of oil to use. > > >But I'm probably wrong on something in this note.. I'm streching my memory >on this info... > >Brian ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 15:24:42 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18605 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA15738 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:24:02 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:23:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:20:15 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Synthetic oil -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Exactly. See Kevin Cameron, May '97 Cycle World. Describes Udo Gietl breaking in racing beemers using a DROP of oil on the piston. Joe >>> "McCoy, Brian NAB02" - 5/18/99 2:57 PM >>> > -----Original Message----- > From: Grant Heffernan [mailto:granth@XXXXXX] > I'll be running it in the SV > after break in... which reminds me, don't use synth for break in. > Oh-yea.. I knew I forgot something.. :) Actually, I've heard of some race-teams that use NO OIL for break-in (granted, break-in for them is 10 minutes of non-running, high-speed piston turning) - something about the properties of synth being so good that the rings don't wear and match up with the cylinder bores which leads to low compression and burning oil.. :P Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 15:25:37 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18618 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990518192520.521.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:25:20 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:25:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: good business plug To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm not sponsored by this guy or get any kind of special deals, he's just one of those types that goes the extra mile to see that customers are happy, and when I meet that kind of person, I like to pass the word. His website is http://sbaccess.com >From everything I've seen, his prices are very very hard to beat!! If you do contact him, let him know I referred you...that way if I do hit him up for some sponsorship next season he'll have heard my name before :) Collin --- Michael Ragsdale wrote: > No problem. I look forward to doing business with you in the future. > Thank you for sending others my way as well. I've found that with > good > service, word of mouth is much better advertising than magazine ads. > My > goal is to keep service the number one priority as my business grows. > Thanks for your support. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Ragsdale '88 EX500 (Race) > mragsdal@XXXXXX '96 Bandit 600 (Street) > DoD #1672 WERA #895 AMA #554907 > SUPER BIKE ACCESSORIES http://sbaccess.com/ > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 15:25:45 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA18628 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990518192529.598.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Tue, 18 May 1999 12:25:29 PDT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:25:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: good business plug To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm not sponsored by this guy or get any kind of special deals, he's just one of those types that goes the extra mile to see that customers are happy, and when I meet that kind of person, I like to pass the word. His website is http://sbaccess.com >From everything I've seen, his prices are very very hard to beat!! If you do contact him, let him know I referred you...that way if I do hit him up for some sponsorship next season he'll have heard my name before :) Collin --- Michael Ragsdale wrote: > No problem. I look forward to doing business with you in the future. > Thank you for sending others my way as well. I've found that with > good > service, word of mouth is much better advertising than magazine ads. > My > goal is to keep service the number one priority as my business grows. > Thanks for your support. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Michael Ragsdale '88 EX500 (Race) > mragsdal@XXXXXX '96 Bandit 600 (Street) > DoD #1672 WERA #895 AMA #554907 > SUPER BIKE ACCESSORIES http://sbaccess.com/ > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 15:38:39 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA18985 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA28671 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 15:38:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:38:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: good business plug In-Reply-To: <19990518192529.598.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Speaking of good business - I put an Acerbis Dual Sport Tailight on my XR before the dirt ride on sunday. Well, it didn't 100% survive the little bit of jumping we were doing. So, I e-mailed them yesterday and they've promised to send me a replacement for the broken part as soon as they're no longer on backorder. It sounds good so far... We'll see, I guess. I've already added an aluminum plate to the plastic part that broke and plan to similarly reinforce the new one when it arrives. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 16:06:40 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm01sm.pmm.cw.net (pm01sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.150]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19697 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr32-dialup6.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.73.198]) by PM01SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35315) with SMTP id <0FBY00MBZ2I0PQ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:06:04 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:04:52 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Synthetic oil To: DC Cycles Message-id: <004901bea148$2cbf3bc0$c6493ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Good synth oil (like Mobil 1) is compatible with conventional oil (it will >say on the container). I love the stuff, personally. I had an old 90 >CBR600F that shifted a little on the clunky side. Put some Mobil 1 15w50 >in at and the difference was incredible! I'll be running it in the SV >after break in... which reminds me, don't use synth for break in. Nothing wrong with using synthetic for break-in on new or rebuilt motors. This use to be an old wise tale, which was fact back in the day, but today's tolerances are a lot closer and the engine wear for break-in is almost non-existent. The cylinders/rings/pistons have to go through a few heat cycles to seat properly. If you've ever rebuilt a motor, you know that you dip the piston/ring in oil before you insert it into the cylinder. Once all the pistons are in, rod/crank bearings torqued, you turn it over by hand several times. This helps with ring seat. Once it's put together, run it for about a 1/2 hour about three different times with varying rpm's, letting the motor cool completely each time. That's all that is needed to "break" a motor in. You actually need to run the motor pretty hard after initial break-in. You want to get the rings to wear completely through the whole travel of the cylinder walls. Maximum cylinder pressure/engine speed should be used. In other words, heat cycle the motor and crank on it! Synthetic or not, it'll work the same. Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 16:07:38 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA19707 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr32-dialup6.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.73.198]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35317) with SMTP id <0FBY0055Q2JM01@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 18 May 1999 20:07:02 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:05:46 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: [gsxr] Bike picks To: "'dc'" Message-id: <004e01bea148$4f1efa20$c6493ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >Some very cool pics... not sure I'd recommend riding your race bike to the >track, but it seems to work for some :) >Check out the very trick headlight... >Collin That guy has a lot of money to spend.... Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 16:35:14 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA20273 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 16:35:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 18 May 1999 19:42:49 UT Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:33 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Synthetic oil Message-ID: <1999051816353938-64596a3@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That's exactly the way that the 440 was done in my Coronet. I broke it in by beating on the motor and letting it cool down, then repeating the process. I used Mobil 1 from square one (but didn't always use it... busted oil pans from being too low made that really expensive) and with exception of the tranny that gave up after 50 miles, was racing it down at V-street after it was finished being put together. I think it was running 11's in the quarter with less than 5 hours on it total. Tom <--- who kicks himself in the ass everyday for selling that car '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Synthetic oil Author: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX (Jon Schumer) Date: 5/18/99 12:04 PM Nothing wrong with using synthetic for break-in on new or rebuilt motors. This use to be an old wise tale, which was fact back in the day, but today's tolerances are a lot closer and the engine wear for break-in is almost non-existent. The cylinders/rings/pistons have to go through a few heat cycles to seat properly. If you've ever rebuilt a motor, you know that you dip the piston/ring in oil before you insert it into the cylinder. Once all the pistons are in, rod/crank bearings torqued, you turn it over by hand several times. This helps with ring seat. Once it's put together, run it for about a 1/2 hour about three different times with varying rpm's, letting the motor cool completely each time. That's all that is needed to "break" a motor in. You actually need to run the motor pretty hard after initial break-in. You want to get the rings to wear completely through the whole travel of the cylinder walls. Maximum cylinder pressure/engine speed should be used. In other words, heat cycle the motor and crank on it! Synthetic or not, it'll work the same. Jon From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 17:58:02 1999 Return-Path: roach@XXXXXX Received: from alpha.necrosis.com (alex-va-n008c091.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21862 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:58:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (roach@localhost) by alpha.necrosis.com (8.9.0.Beta3/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id RAA29852; Tue, 18 May 1999 17:57:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:57:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Brian Roach Sender: roach@XXXXXX To: Chris Norloff cc: dc-cycles Subject: Re: Deer on the road in Arlington! In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990518140938.01334140@mail.toward.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Last week one got collected in the eastbound toll-road lanes right at the beltway/main toll booths at around 6pm... it was a real mess. - Brian On Tue, 18 May 1999, Chris Norloff wrote: > On I-66 in Arlington today I saw a dead deer on the side of the road > (eastbound, just before the Rosslyn/Key Bridge exit). Just a reminder that > even in a fairly urban environment there's wildlife. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 19:32:27 1999 Return-Path: harris@XXXXXX Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA23677 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (harris.his.com [205.252.80.17]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA21816 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 19:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990518192335.008f7a50@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:23:35 -0400 To: "'dc'" From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: oil wars.. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:53 AM 5/18/99 -0700, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >To each their own... but Synthetics CAN and DO go that long (Hey Collin, how >long has it been since you changed the oil in your truck?) Cars don't count, but I last changed the oil in my mini van about 20k miles ago on trak auto 69 cent oil....oh, and it has 180k on its clock, and at 200k it turns into a pumkin and gets donated to the local fire dpt for jaws of life pratice. The tax right off is better than than what I could sell it for. >how well it's protecting. In drawing a magnet through my oil (to pick up >any metal that may be floating around, not only in the oil but in the >engine.. indicating wear) - it comes out with more than that is normal >(read, VERY fine particles.. and only a little of that). I assume you are speaking comparatively. Most of the metal in your engine has a sufficiently low iron content as to be poorly attracted to a magnet in a viscous fluid like oil. Besides, Honda plain bearing material is of a copper beryllium (spelling?) alloy that zero FE content. Personally I'd use the coffee filter trick, or cut open the filter, if you are that curious. The only problem I have with all of this is the obvious conclusion most oil taste testers ( and its institutional counter part, "offsite oil analysis" ) fail to see. Just what are you going to do with the info that your engine is generating large amounts of metal? The answer, unless racing, aviation, or offshore marine work is involved, is normally to run it till it blows up. Personally I just turn the radio up or put in the ear plugs if the noise is disagreeable. Knowing it is about to happen just makes one unsettled. S Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Tue May 18 21:23:55 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA25648 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA00623 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA19511 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:22:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.41]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Tue, 18 May 1999 21:17:26 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" , Subject: RE: Synthetic oil Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:18:41 -0400 Message-ID: <008b01bea195$87bc0d80$2880e2cf@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: The question to ask is "Is there a point in switching oils on a street used bike that sees moderate use, and has regular oil changes?" If you determine that there is, just drain the old, fill with synthetic. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > I've heard several things about synthetic oil. My 1986 Magna VF700C has > never had synthetic oil in it. How do I wean my bike from the > dinosaur age? > Is there a conversion process? Is my bike too old (19,000 miles)? > > Thanks in advance, > > Mitch > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 00:12:17 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA29009 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:12:15 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id AAA09843; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:13:14 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma009573; Wed, 19 May 99 00:12:55 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBY00G2UP493R@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256776.001700FE ; Wed, 19 May 1999 00:11:15 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 00:09:39 -0400 Subject: Re: oil wars.. To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Cc: "'dc'" Message-id: <85256776.0016FF6D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I thought Grant meant 8k RPMs here I come (as in out of the 5oo mile break-in) ... --chris To: 'dc' cc: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Date: 05/18/99 04:53:39 PM GMT Subject: oil wars.. To each their own... but Synthetics CAN and DO go that long (Hey Collin, how long has it been since you changed the oil in your truck?) Hell, my indication on when to change oil in my bike is when I feel the transmition start to get a bit sloppy. The shifts aren't smooth and firm - this typically happens about the 4~5k mark. I change the oil, filter and do the valves all at the same time. The oil's dark, but colour is NO indication of how well it's protecting. In drawing a magnet through my oil (to pick up any metal that may be floating around, not only in the oil but in the engine.. indicating wear) - it comes out with more than that is normal (read, VERY fine particles.. and only a little of that). Perhaps my engine's harder on oil than say, a Harley.. because of the higher engine RPM.. then the oil in a Harley should last another 2~3k more miles. Yes, changing oil IS cheap insurance.. but there's a difference between that and just plain tossing money away... Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken [mailto:shephar1@XXXXXX] > I sure hope 8k was a misprint though, there is not a bike out > there that you should go that far between oil changes > regardless of what a manual or oil company says. For the > expense its worth it every 2 to 3 k at most. besides its s > fun job on a lousy day ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 07:05:58 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA06665 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA17970 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 06:52:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 19 May 1999 03:51:41 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Synthetic oil Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 03:51:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I kinda thought that it might be possible to do that (it's how Honda ADVISES me to break in the RS125 engine (only they want 5~6 heat-cycles on the engine before running). Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Schumer [mailto:fzr_mofo@XXXXXX] > In other words, heat cycle the motor and crank on it! > Synthetic or not, > it'll work the same. > > Jon From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 07:36:32 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07441 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:36:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id HAA24983; Wed, 19 May 1999 07:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.37.19990519073647.00a745e0@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.37 (Beta) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:37:15 -0400 To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX, "McCoy, Brian NAB02" From: Grant Heffernan Subject: Re: oil wars.. Cc: "'dc'" In-Reply-To: <85256776.0016FF6D.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I did... :-) At 12:09 AM 5/19/99 -0400, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >I thought Grant meant 8k RPMs here I come (as in out of the 5oo mile >break-in) ... > >--chris > > >To: 'dc' >cc: >From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" >Date: 05/18/99 04:53:39 PM GMT >Subject: oil wars.. > > > > >To each their own... but Synthetics CAN and DO go that long (Hey Collin, >how >long has it been since you changed the oil in your truck?) Hell, my >indication on when to change oil in my bike is when I feel the transmition >start to get a bit sloppy. The shifts aren't smooth and firm - this >typically happens about the 4~5k mark. I change the oil, filter and do the >valves all at the same time. The oil's dark, but colour is NO indication >of >how well it's protecting. In drawing a magnet through my oil (to pick up >any metal that may be floating around, not only in the oil but in the >engine.. indicating wear) - it comes out with more than that is normal >(read, VERY fine particles.. and only a little of that). Perhaps my >engine's harder on oil than say, a Harley.. because of the higher engine >RPM.. then the oil in a Harley should last another 2~3k more miles. > >Yes, changing oil IS cheap insurance.. but there's a difference between >that >and just plain tossing money away... > >Brian > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ken [mailto:shephar1@XXXXXX] > > > I sure hope 8k was a misprint though, there is not a bike out > > there that you should go that far between oil changes > > regardless of what a manual or oil company says. For the > > expense its worth it every 2 to 3 k at most. besides its s > > fun job on a lousy day > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to >which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged >material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or >taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or >entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any >computer. ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 08:26:21 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA08759 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:26:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA07760 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:26:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA27920 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:26:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Wed, 19 May 1999 08:20:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Synthetic oil Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:20:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Thanks to all for their input. Oil change coming this weekend, and Mobil 1 appears to be the winning recommendation. Mitch Holmes Fort Meade, MD 1986 Honda Magna VF700C -----Original Message----- From: George Howell [mailto:ghowell@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 9:19 PM To: Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Synthetic oil The question to ask is "Is there a point in switching oils on a street used bike that sees moderate use, and has regular oil changes?" If you determine that there is, just drain the old, fill with synthetic. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 09:23:07 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09730 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 09:23:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990519133344.16323.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web305.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 06:33:44 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 06:33:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: need loaner part.... (again...) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Arrrgh, I've had trouble getting a part in time for this weekends races....Any suzuki rider out there willing to loan me a left side footpeg bracket, shifter, and linkage?? I need all but the peg to get me going again...Let me know, and we can figure out some sort of compensation for you... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Foreman Email: fj1100@XXXXXX Web: http://www.fj1100.com `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ A SUPERIOR Pilot may be defined as one who stays out of trouble by using his SUPERIOR judgement to avoid situations which might require the use of his SUPERIOR skills From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 10:22:27 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA10853 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:22:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09712 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00589 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:21:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id KAA24791 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BEA1E1.677B7410@XXXXXX>; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:21:48 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: I missed this one . . . Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:21:47 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >From the VFR list, some good news . . . Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:34:27 -0400 From: "Bruce Norton" Subject: Re: How common is this? X-Message-Number: 005 The state of Virginia has just passed a law that goes into effect on July 1st that prohibits excluding motorcycles from any road that receives STATE funds. This is practically every road in the state. This may establish a precedent that could be used nationwide to fight rediculous bans like this one. Don't lay down for this. You pay state and federal taxes that build and maintain these roads and you should have the right to ride any legal vehicle on them. Bruce From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 10:33:38 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA11061 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:33:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09883 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00887 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:32:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:31:36 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB0087@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Carver, John'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: I missed this one . . . Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:31:31 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) That's excellent. Isn't there some state park in VA that prohibits them right now? I've never come across a road like that before but if I did I'd be really pissed. Glenn -----Original Message----- From: Carver, John [mailto:jcarver@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 10:22 AM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: I missed this one . . . >From the VFR list, some good news . . . Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:34:27 -0400 From: "Bruce Norton" Subject: Re: How common is this? X-Message-Number: 005 The state of Virginia has just passed a law that goes into effect on July 1st that prohibits excluding motorcycles from any road that receives STATE funds. This is practically every road in the state. This may establish a precedent that could be used nationwide to fight rediculous bans like this one. Don't lay down for this. You pay state and federal taxes that build and maintain these roads and you should have the right to ride any legal vehicle on them. Bruce From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 11:05:49 1999 Return-Path: jay.stpeter@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11670 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA04878 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10k7ga-0005ZL-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:51:08 -0400 Received: from jay (ravinc.clark.net [168.143.30.5]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA09224 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 10:53:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jay St. Peter" To: Subject: Re:Oil Filters Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:52:41 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bea207$3f0bc7c0$afc809c0@jay> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal When I first bought my race bike, the PO had tightened the oil filter down hard. I found that the hose clamp used to wire the filter makes a good wrench. Just tighten it down and pound your screwdriver w/a hammer onto the clamp and the filter turns. I have since bought another large hose clamp to use as a wrench on my other bike. Works well in the limited access on some sport bikes. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 11:11:21 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11741 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10512 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA01940 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:10:31 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:10:24 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:07:30 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, jcarver@XXXXXX Subject: I missed this one . . . -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline The AMA has been successful in fighting idiotic laws like this. They just beat one in Chicago. Joe >>> "Carver, John" - 5/19/99 10:21 AM >>> >From the VFR list, some good news . . . Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:34:27 -0400 From: "Bruce Norton" Subject: Re: How common is this? X-Message-Number: 005 The state of Virginia has just passed a law that goes into effect on July 1st that prohibits excluding motorcycles from any road that receives STATE funds. This is practically every road in the state. This may establish a precedent that could be used nationwide to fight rediculous bans like this one. Don't lay down for this. You pay state and federal taxes that build and maintain these roads and you should have the right to ride any legal vehicle on them. Bruce From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 11:16:43 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA11906 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10567 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:16:38 -0400 (EDT) From: CBR600twt@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02089 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CBR600twt@XXXXXX (4532) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 7QYTa15536; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:15:35 EDT Subject: Re: Excellent New bike prices To: fj1100@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 41 It seems the further you go west the better the bike prices get, especially sport bikes. I took my R1 in to Valley Cycle (Winchester) to have the clutch basket recall done and the owner was saying that they reqularly trade popular 4 x 4's that catch dust on their showroom floor for sportbikes with dealers in the west. They even went as far as to trade R1's for R6's and so on. Tom T 98 R1 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 11:20:08 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12027 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:20:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 19 May 1999 14:27:37 UT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:12 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: BC1100... Final Outcome Message-ID: <19990519112019460-a4b4209@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well, after frying my brain on the whole setup of the BC1100 on Jeannette's VFR, I finally got the wheel measured properly (with both Jeannette and Brian McCoy's help). The only problem that I ran into was the conversion of the number to work with the MPH scale. I did the calculation and now the BC1100 is setup properly. Now for the cool part... last night Brian and I made a second measurement of the wheel and then I converted from inches to millimeters BUT I forgot to use the 1.61 divider to get the number for MPH as stated above. I entered in the number as it was and headed on home. I had mentioned to Brian that the manual says that it will read speeds up to 124 MPH while the web site says 163 MPH so he suggested that I try it out and see where it stops. Well... I did. I didn't quite get to 163 MPH (I ran out of space on the Beltway) but the 157.1 MPH max speed should be proof positive! Now granted the thing was no where near calibrated correctly BUT it looks like the web site is correct! So... all you racers out there that want to know how fast your really going should go grab one of these jobbies. I like it! -Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 11:30:08 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12299 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10779 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:30:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02442 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com ([209.135.198.107]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8-KIVEX) with SMTP id LAA16252 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990519112447.006874f8@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:24:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: HOT lanes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Did anyone see the article about proposed use of HOV lanes by people willing to pay extra to use them in Maryland. The Article was in the front section. I think I might try to do some more reasearch on this, I am not sure how I feel about sharing the HOV lanes with many others while I am on my bike..... Lisa Goddard Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 11:44:42 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA12533 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA10958 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:44:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA02761 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:44:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10k8UD-0006ws-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:42:25 -0400 Received: from david500 ([209.70.174.26]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA10647 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <007f01bea20f$363673e0$1aae46d1@david500.bdanet.com> From: "Dave Cross" To: Subject: Blatant Sponsor Spam Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:49:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Hello Listers, My racing sponsor (Collin's also), Fast Lane Cycles is holding its 5th Annual Horsepower Shootout on Sunday, June 27th. For a mere $20 you get to run your motorcycle on their Dyno, get a free "Collectors" T-Shirt, and 10% off all accessories and labor within 30 days with your dyno sheet. Usually its $25 for just the dyno run, so this is a great deal and should be a great time. There are 3 classes based on displacement, prizes for each class and an overall winner. Last years winner topped out at 153hp! So if you think you have built a high horsepower bike, or are curious as to just how much horsepower your motorcycle makes this is a great chance to find out. BTW, the person with the lowest horsepower wins a free jet kit. Details can be found at http://www.fastlanecycles.com David Cross WERA & CCS #416 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 11:58:22 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAB12813 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:58:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA10051 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:58:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA19385 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:55:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Blatant Sponsor Spam In-Reply-To: <007f01bea20f$363673e0$1aae46d1@david500.bdanet.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 19 May 1999, Dave Cross wrote: > My racing sponsor (Collin's also), Fast Lane Cycles is holding its 5th > Annual Horsepower Shootout on Sunday, June 27th. > horsepower your motorcycle makes this is a great chance to find out. > BTW, the person with the lowest horsepower wins a free jet kit. I've wondered about this last thing. Will the jet kit be for the bike that's run on the dyno or for any bike? That is, if I run my CB125 and get the lowest HP can I get a jet kit for my superhawk? I wonder if they can put a bike on there with knobby tires - I'd really like to know what my XR350 is putting out. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 12:36:59 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA13478 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 19 May 1999 12:35:23 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB0094@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'Jay St. Peter'" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Oil Filters Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:35:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) All, I still think I have the best oil wrench made and I have yet to put it on ANY vehicle that it won't fit on. No need for these "Jerry Rigs" you guys are proposing. In the clockwise position this wrench opens up, in the counter clockwise position is tightens on the filter and removes it. I think I only paid about $8 fir it at Trash Auto. Glenn >When I first bought my race bike, the PO had tightened the oil filter down >hard. I found that the hose clamp used to wire the filter makes a good >wrench. Just tighten it down and pound your screwdriver w/a hammer onto the >clamp and the filter turns. I have since bought another large hose clamp to >use as a wrench on my other bike. Works well in the limited access on some >sport bikes. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 13:37:00 1999 Return-Path: dave@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14491 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA17861 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10kADH-0001ib-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:33:03 -0400 Received: from david500 ([209.70.174.26]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA04253 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:35:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00bc01bea21e$aaaf8220$1aae46d1@david500.bdanet.com> From: "Dave Cross" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Re: Blatant Sponsor Spam Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:40:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 >> BTW, the person with the lowest horsepower wins a free jet kit. > >I've wondered about this last thing. Will the jet kit be for the bike >that's run on the dyno or for any bike? I believe it is for the bike that was run, not for any bike. >I wonder if they can >put a bike on there with knobby tires - I'd really like to know what my >XR350 is putting out. They can run a knobby tire but the tire will be ruined in the process. Maybe mount an old one for the dyno run. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 13:50:32 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14781 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA18863 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id KAA08643 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 19 May 1999 10:50:08 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 19 May 1999 10:50:08 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: Dave Cross , DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Blatant Sponsor Spam Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 10:50:06 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >They can run a knobby tire but the tire will be ruined >in the process. ?? Why would this be - I do more tire abuse on any given day on the street than Rick does on his dyno with my scooter, although he may rev it up a bit higher than I do (on a regular basis, that is ;-)) Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 13:53:03 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14791 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr37-dialup30.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.75.30]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35317) with SMTP id <0FBZ004HDQZ1YZ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 May 1999 17:52:17 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:50:42 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Oil Filters To: "'DC Cycles'" Message-id: <007d01bea1fe$a6736ca0$1e4b3ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal >All, I still think I have the best oil wrench made and I have yet to put it >on ANY vehicle that it won't fit on. No need for these "Jerry Rigs" you >guys are proposing. In the clockwise position this wrench opens up, in the >counter clockwise position is tightens on the filter and removes it. I >think I only paid about $8 fir it at Trash Auto. >Glenn Glenn, Sounds like you have the same one I have. It has springs and 2 plates that move out when turned clockwise so you can get it over the filter and then they dig into the sides of the filter turning counterclockwise. It has a 3/8ths drive opening for a ratchet. Mine has worked on every filter I've come across in the shop except for a Land Cruiser. Them there sucker are figgin huge! That's when I have to use a contraption like Todd's leather belt. 8^) Jon From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 14:05:50 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15075 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:05:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA20188 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:05:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990519180838.755.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web306.yahoomail.com; Wed, 19 May 1999 11:08:38 PDT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 11:08:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: Blatant Sponsor Spam To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It has to do with the way they have to strap the bike down nice and tight against the dyno's drum. It puts a lot of downforce on the knobbies, then throw in the acceleration forces and you can eat a knobby alive... --- "Jordan, Michael" wrote: > >They can run a knobby tire but the tire will be ruined >in the > process. > > ?? > > Why would this be - === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 14:18:39 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15304 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:18:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12808 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:18:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA06999 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:17:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 96 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:17:32 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990519141549.01ef9ae0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:17:28 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Oh My God Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A link to some wild MC videos was going around on the VFR list. I put them on my server if anyone is interested. My favorite is Pascals_ride_paa_La_peripherique.mpg a timed run through the streets of paris through moderate traffic of speeds reaching 250km.hr! ftp://ftp.troutman.org/pub/motorcycle-stuff MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 14:25:56 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA15491 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12894 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07132 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:25:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FBZ0087ESB9ON@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:21:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA20843; Wed, 19 May 1999 18:20:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990519182052.PVOT32591@toddnt>; Wed, 19 May 1999 13:20:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:18:31 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: HOT lanes In-reply-to: <3.0.3.32.19990519112447.006874f8@kivex.com> To: "Lisa S. Goddard" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000a01bea223$ffdab170$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Well, my attitude is that give 'em an inch......This will be the first step to abolishing HOV lanes for their designated purpose if the bill goes through. I think it will cost people around $5 to use the HOV lanes without the required number of people in their vehicle. Because of the high cost, more scofflaws will be encouraged to use the lanes on the assumption that even if they rarely get caught it will have cost them, over time, about the same as if they'd paid the toll. Eventually, more and more people will get angry that only those with the means (elite) can use the lanes. The so called elite will get angry that they have to pay, and HOV will be abolished. It is my opinion that most laws and statutes are tailored to meet the standards of the lowest common denominator. The very good reasons to have HOV will fall by the wayside to meet the demands of the people who insist on driving alone in their cage and insist that "they" paid for the HOV anyway. Getting rid of the HOV will simply encourage more traffic. Count on it. And no one will win. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Lisa S. Goddard [mailto:Lisa@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 11:25 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: HOT lanes > > > Did anyone see the article about proposed use of HOV lanes by people > willing to pay extra to use them in Maryland. The Article was in > the front > section. I think I might try to do some more reasearch on this, I am not > sure how I feel about sharing the HOV lanes with many others while I am on > my bike..... > Lisa Goddard > Kivex.com > Unlock the power of the Internet! > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 14:46:35 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15953 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:54:04 UT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:02 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: PC for sale (non-moto) Message-ID: <19990519144037681-65e5a@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Folks... I still have that Pentium Pro workstation/server for sale if anyone is interested at all. If anyone missed the details from last week just write back and I'll fill you in. Thanks, Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 14:49:59 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15993 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 14:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 19 May 1999 17:57:31 UT Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:48 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: email trouble... (non-moto) Message-ID: <19990519145018751-5c96d@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Folks... if you're trying to reply to any email sent out by me today please be advised that our system is partially down right now and I probably will not be able to get back to anyone until this evening. Thanks, Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 15:11:38 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA16387 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:11:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id PAA01473; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:11:07 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id PAA28263; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:11:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:11:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Laptops,digital cameras, and magnetic tank bags. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just wondering if anyone has carried there laptop and digital cameras around in there magnetic tank bags and if you did did you have any problems. I've actually stuck my laptop in my Marsee tank bag overnight but haven't actually taken it out on the road yet. Thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 15:39:18 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17017 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:38:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13916 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:38:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09278 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:38:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A3216731010C; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:38:09 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990519153539.01363d10@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:38:53 -0400 To: "Mike Troutman" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Oh My God In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990519141549.01ef9ae0@mail.wheatintl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:17 PM 5/19/99 , Mike Troutman wrote: >A link to some wild MC videos was going around on the VFR list. I put them >on my server if anyone is interested. My favorite is > >Pascals_ride_paa_La_peripherique.mpg > >a timed run through the streets of paris through moderate traffic of speeds >reaching 250km.hr! > >ftp://ftp.troutman.org/pub/motorcycle-stuff OH MY GOD is right. My adrenaline is pumping, and all I did was watch the low-resolution video (with my nose about 8 in. from the computer screen!). So THAT'S what the French do for fun. Wish I spoke French or German - having a German narration over a French narration was "interesting". How about that lane-splitting at speed inside tunnels! I almost wet my pants when he split between cars with brake lights on, into a tunnel with lights on the walls. It looked to me like he was going to center-punch a car. thanks, Mike Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 15:44:16 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA17117 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13992 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:44:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA09441 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 470; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:44:07 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990519154307.01f20420@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:44:03 -0400 To: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Oh My God In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990519153539.01363d10@mail.toward.com> References: <4.1.19990519141549.01ef9ae0@mail.wheatintl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:38 PM 5/19/99 , Chris Norloff wrote: >So THAT'S what the French do for fun. Wish I spoke French or German - >having a German narration over a French narration was "interesting". How >about that lane-splitting at speed inside tunnels! I almost wet my pants >when he split between cars with brake lights on, into a tunnel with lights >on the walls. It looked to me like he was going to center-punch a car. > >thanks, Mike > You are welcome. And here is the translation of the commentators: >5:00 -> [Rider]: If the car on the right makes a move towards the left, then > > there is a problem, otherwise, we can generally always make it in > > between. > >5:30 -> [Question]: Do you have a girlfriend in your life? > [Rider]: Yes of course. > [Question]: Does she have any fear? > [Rider]: No, she has no fear, and when she sits behind me, she > can even get to sleep. ??? > [Question]: Does she have fear when you ride fast through Paris > by yourself? > [Rider]: Sometimes she wakes up, searches for me, and then she > knows I'm on my way. > >6:01 -> [Rider]: The limit margin between 2 cars is 1 meter (~3 feet). If > there is 1 meter, I can pass in between. > >6:58 -> [Rider]: There is saw the car turn his blinker on, so I had to react > immediately. > >7:10 -> [Rider]: It is the same here. (???) I must usually brake because > I'm coming too fast in between. > >7:29 -> [Rider]: Here the curves, I must shift down to fourth. > >7:34 -> [Rider]: I speed up again, shift up to fifth. > >7:42 -> [Rider]: ??? I go between the truck and the car. It is forbidden for > trucks to be in the leftmost lane. > >7:50 -> [Rider]: To make it through the curve here, I must cut to the right > ??? > >8:11 -> [Rider]: 4th, 5th, ... > >8:20 -> [Rider]: As you can see there's a lot of people the early morning. > >8:39 -> [Rider]: And some more slalom. ??? > >8:59 -> [Rider]: This is my main problem. When a car changes lane > without using his blinkers. It leaves me very little time react. >I can > usually avoid, but it is very close. > >9:14 -> [Rider]: Many drivers on the Peripheric (name of the highway) do > not use their blinkers. > >9:30 -> [Rider]: Anyway, on the motorcycle (???) I must give it gas so > that I can go much faster before the driver starts turning. > >9:48 -> [Rider]: ??? I go between the car and the truck. > >10:00 -> [Rider]: On the other hand, if the truck was to change lane, > then I would have to go between the car and the guardrail. > ??? That is virtually impossible. > >10:21 -> [Rider]: ??? There is another truck behind the first one. I had > chosen my trajectory, but I saw the truck, so I had to shift >one > more lane over, even though I did not have the visibility. > >11:02 -> [Rider]: I shift down to fourth, and exit. > >[Commentator]: That was an exact 11 minutes and 4 seconds. Pascal, who >is called "The Black Prince" had yet another ??? behind him. ??? he went >an average speed of 192 kilometers per hour (120 mph) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 16:04:34 1999 Return-Path: jay.stpeter@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA17551 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA29479 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10kCXi-00066P-00; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:02:18 -0400 Received: from jay (ravinc.clark.net [168.143.30.5]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA23780; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:04:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jay St. Peter" To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" , "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: Oil Filters Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:03:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000501bea232$b7443e40$afc809c0@jay> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB0094@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> On my ZX9, there isn't enough room to use a tool like that. I was using one of the cap type filter wrenches and sticking a socket extension between the exhaust pipes. Then, I'd run the filter down along the pipe to get it out. Problem was, if the filter wrench and filter came partially separated during the slide-out phase, it'd get stuck. Hose clamp method and a long screwdriver seem to work a little better except the hose clamp wants to scratch up anything around the tight space where I pull the filter out. Since there is no room to get your hand in, I still use the cap wrench to put the new one back on (can't win on that bike). >Glenn wrote: > > All, I still think I have the best oil wrench made and I have yet > to put it > on ANY vehicle that it won't fit on. No need for these "Jerry Rigs" you > guys are proposing. In the clockwise position this wrench opens > up, in the > counter clockwise position is tightens on the filter and removes it. I > think I only paid about $8 fir it at Trash Auto. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 16:06:41 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17650 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:06:39 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA12912; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:07:38 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma012329; Wed, 19 May 99 16:06:04 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FBZ00I7XX8ST1@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:07:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256776.006E43EA ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:04:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:54:37 -0400 Subject: Trials Info? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256776.006DFA46.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Hi all. I'm looking for info on Motorcycle Trials competitions. It would be interesting to see one of these, but I'm not sure they have them in this neck of the woods. Might be fun to mess around on a trials bike too - How much are they and is it even possible to buy one used? Chris Weaver ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 16:43:24 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay03.mcit.com (omzrelay03.mcit.com [199.249.19.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18335 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 16:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.204.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37789) with ESMTP id <0FBZ00KT3YDE1E@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:32:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id UAA20064; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:32:45 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990519203145.QZUW32591@toddnt>; Wed, 19 May 1999 15:31:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:29:22 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Trials Info? In-reply-to: <85256776.006DFA46.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <001801bea236$47f53ae0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Go to a local dealer, pick up Winding Roads (Motorcycle Times). There are adds for all kinds of fun things moto-related in that mag. The White Rose Motorcycle club sponsors two trials competitions a year. You just missed a recent one. Todd > > Hi all. > > I'm looking for info on Motorcycle Trials competitions. It would be > interesting to see one of these, but I'm not sure they have them in this > neck of the woods. Might be fun to mess around on a trials bike too - How > much are they and is it even possible to buy one used? > > Chris Weaver > ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 20:09:48 1999 Return-Path: jckozyn@XXXXXX Received: from relay1.mnsinc.com (relay.mnsinc.com [206.55.3.25]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA21963 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:09:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([206.239.191.95]) by relay1.mnsinc.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA28983; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:09:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37437E56.1F1D@mnsinc.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:15:34 -0700 From: "John C. Kozyn" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" CC: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Synthetic Oil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" > Thanks to all for their input. Oil change coming this weekend, and Mobil 1 > appears to be the winning recommendation. Yeah, it prolly is. However, I put synth in my ole' Interceptor with similar miles and I suffered clutch problems. Slipping over 6K forced me to rebuild the clutch. I will say that after that the synth (actually, I used a synth/dino blend following the recommendation of my mechanic - Dennis at Crossroads) gave me a smoother acting transmission. Next oil change on my 95 VFR will be a blend also (still waiting for 4K miles to turn up ;). I do not anticipate rebuilding the clutch this time. Just be prepared to do so with your V4. YMMV, of course :) JK From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 20:24:29 1999 Return-Path: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA22228 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:24:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Boiade@XXXXXX Received: from Boiade@XXXXXX (14388) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id yHBTa02629; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:21:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6da89956.2474af7a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:21:14 EDT Subject: Re: Synthetic Oil To: jckozyn@XXXXXX, HolmesM@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/19/99 8:19:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jckozyn@XXXXXX writes: << Yeah, it prolly is. However, I put synth in my ole' Interceptor with similar miles and I suffered clutch problems. Slipping over 6K forced me to rebuild the clutch. >> Yeah, my 86-VFR-750's clutch started slipping in high load conditions with Mobil 1. I went back to SG rated oil and the problem went away. I do use Mobil 1 in my 98-ZX-9R though with no problems. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 21:04:15 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA22902 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:04:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-90-252.s283.tnt3.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.90.252]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA02006 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 21:04:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Trailer Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:04:12 -0400 Message-ID: <00a601bea25c$ac9fd740$2735accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal My trailer has a rail length of 80.5 inches. The largest bike ever loaded onto my trailer was a CBR1k with an overall length of 88 inches. I think it was a tight fit, but I never saw it loaded. What are the chances that a bike with an overall length of 94 inches will fit on my trailer? LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (56K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 22:09:31 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA23900 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-105-30.s70.as4.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.105.30]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA05523 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 22:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <005701bea266$2fc11720$1e69accf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Thanks Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:12:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I don't remember who suggested the website for the free subscription to "Motorcyclist" magazine but I whomever it was "THANKS". It took about 3-4 months but today I received not 1 issue but the last 3 issues (April, May & June) It sure is nice when you can get stuff for free. Thanks Again Brian N 96 Yamaha FZR600 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 19 23:25:16 1999 Return-Path: dankenney@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (f228.hotmail.com [207.82.251.119]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA25139 for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 6161 invoked by uid 0); 20 May 1999 03:24:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19990520032442.6160.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 209.122.216.202 by wy1lg.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 19 May 1999 20:24:41 PDT X-Originating-IP: [209.122.216.202] From: "DAN KENNEY" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: summit point Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:24:41 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; Anybody want to meet up at Borders in Bowie, MD Sunday morning then head up to Summit Point? Dan Kenney Red 1997 Suzuki TL1000s _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 07:33:18 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04418 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:33:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA24067 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:33:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA23815 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:33:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FC1007FD42Y7H@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:34:27 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <000501bea2b4$b7dbc940$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) They must. How else could they be asking $9450 for an '98 TL1000R? I just got a '99 for $8600. I made it a point to tell the guy that too. He pretty much called me a liar, said I couldn't get it for that. Wish I had the invoice with me. At least they have a good selection of accessories. I just needed some S100 cleaner. Gary W. Foreman Email: fj1100@XXXXXX Web: http://www.fj1100.com `·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ If you have "No Fear" You haven't gone fast enough! From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 07:48:47 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA04757 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA24187 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:48:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from blue.vais.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [207.98.180.9]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA24010 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:48:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yellow.vais.net (yellow.vais.net [207.98.180.4]) by blue.vais.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA09703; Thu, 20 May 1999 06:53:53 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:48:28 -0400 (EDT) From: DIAL|MB|Tom Gallo To: Gary Foreman cc: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? In-Reply-To: <000501bea2b4$b7dbc940$d929bccc@loudoun.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE What was the name of the dealer you purchased your bike from and where is= =20 it located? Tom 99 TL1000R On Thu, 20 May 1999, Gary Foreman wrote: > They must. How else could they be asking $9450 for an '98 TL1000R? I ju= st > got a '99 for $8600. I made it a point to tell the guy that too. He pre= tty > much called me a liar, said I couldn't get it for that. Wish I had the > invoice with me. >=20 > At least they have a good selection of accessories. I just needed some S= 100 > cleaner. >=20 > Gary W. Foreman > Email: fj1100@XXXXXX > Web: http://www.fj1100.com > `=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8= =B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8=B8.=B7=B4=AF`=B7.=B8 > If you have "No Fear" > You haven't gone fast enough! >=20 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 08:09:39 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA05651 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AB7847001CA; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:09:28 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990520074735.0136a120@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:52:13 -0400 To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Trials Info? In-Reply-To: <85256776.006DFA46.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:54 PM 5/19/99 , christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: >I'm looking for info on Motorcycle Trials competitions. It would be >interesting to see one of these, but I'm not sure they have them in this >neck of the woods. Might be fun to mess around on a trials bike too - How >much are they and is it even possible to buy one used? I'm really interested in trials myself. There's nothing right around here, but there is some in Pennsylvania and in western Maryland. Check Winding Road Motorcycle Times for some events this year, including two events on the national competition circuit, I think. My understanding is there's usually vintage (1970's) machines for sale in the $800 to $1,000 range - which I think would be adequate for a first bike. Fantic, Aprilia, and Gas Gas bikes are pricey but really deliver the performance. Here's a site with more info http://www.trials.net/ Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 09:41:45 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA07359 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:41:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:39:01 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB00CF@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'John C. Kozyn'" , "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" Cc: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Synthetic Oil Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:38:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I've got Mobil 1 in both my bikes, an 84 Magna 500 and the 98 VFR and have never had any clutch slipping. Glenn From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" > Thanks to all for their input. Oil change coming this weekend, and Mobil 1 > appears to be the winning recommendation. Yeah, it prolly is. However, I put synth in my ole' Interceptor with similar miles and I suffered clutch problems. Slipping over 6K forced me to rebuild the clutch. I will say that after that the synth (actually, I used a synth/dino blend following the recommendation of my mechanic - Dennis at Crossroads) gave me a smoother acting transmission. Next oil change on my 95 VFR will be a blend also (still waiting for 4K miles to turn up ;). I do not anticipate rebuilding the clutch this time. Just be prepared to do so with your V4. YMMV, of course :) From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:03:35 1999 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07829 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:57:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Synthetic Oil Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:57:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Again, thanks for all the replies. Unfortunately, I'm confused now. I thought switching to synth would be a good thing, but I'm getting conflicting reports after my announcement of switching. So this is one of those YMMV things? 'Cuz if there's no real consensus, I'll probably stick with dino; that's what I know, and the bike's been running well with it (if it ain't broke, don't fix it). Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna VF700C -----Original Message----- I've got Mobil 1 in both my bikes, an 84 Magna 500 and the 98 VFR and have never had any clutch slipping. Yeah, it prolly is. However, I put synth in my ole' Interceptor with similar miles and I suffered clutch problems. Slipping over 6K forced me to rebuild the clutch. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:05:26 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com (imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA07921 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:05:25 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (325) by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id zUFCa02574; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:04:12 EDT Subject: Re: Laptops,digital cameras, and magnetic tank bags. To: Turnip@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 aside from being bounced around a bit (which could be avaoided by packing carefully), isn't magnetism supposed to be kept AWAY from computers? or am I thinking of something else? Marcy In a message dated 5/19/99 3:25:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Turnip@XXXXXX writes: << Just wondering if anyone has carried there laptop and digital cameras around in there magnetic tank bags and if you did did you have any problems. I've actually stuck my laptop in my Marsee tank bag overnight but haven't actually taken it out on the road yet. >> From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:17:05 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08086 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:16:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:15:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 04:46:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Not only their bikes.. I got a written quote on a part (reg/rec for an 87 VFR) and called them up looking for one I wouldn't have to order.. Asked for a price, got something like $215 - asked if they'd be willing to match the price of a local dealer, and that I had a written quote I could fax them. They asked my quoted price (was $147 or so), and said that the OEM Honda part wasn't available for that price.. Funny, I got an OEM Honda part for $170 (overnight shipping included)... But we all already knew that these guys are loosers. Right? Brian > -----Original Message----- > They must. How else could they be asking $9450 for an '98 > TL1000R? I just > got a '99 for $8600. I made it a point to tell the guy that > too. He pretty > much called me a liar, said I couldn't get it for that. Wish > I had the > invoice with me. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:17:14 1999 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08089 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:17:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:11:09 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Laptops,digital cameras, and magnetic tank bags. Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:11:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain That must be why computers and I don't get along -- I have too much of a magnetic personality. Sorry, I couldn't resist (but I'll try harder), Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna VF700C -----Original Message----- From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX [mailto:JinnSinn@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 10:04 AM To: Turnip@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Laptops,digital cameras, and magnetic tank bags. aside from being bounced around a bit (which could be avaoided by packing carefully), isn't magnetism supposed to be kept AWAY from computers? or am I thinking of something else? Marcy In a message dated 5/19/99 3:25:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Turnip@XXXXXX writes: << Just wondering if anyone has carried there laptop and digital cameras around in there magnetic tank bags and if you did did you have any problems. I've actually stuck my laptop in my Marsee tank bag overnight but haven't actually taken it out on the road yet. >> From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:22:29 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08187 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:22:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26248 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27379 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:22:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 319 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:22:19 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990520101626.01aa3e60@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:22:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: oops - helmet casualty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So I am about to cross 28 at Stone Road when a little old cager lady with her left turn signal on whip from left to my center lane. I speed up and drop around her (making the green light) when I hear the sound of nothing sitting behind me. That would be my spare helmet that is no longer attached to my sissy bars. DOH! Pull a quick U-Turn and find said helmet on the side of the road, scratched all to Hell. It was a very short drop, and it spent most of it's time rolling, not bouncing based on the situation. It is one season old. I will be sanding and painting this helmet (and replacing the windscreen of course) to at least make it look normal. Has anyone done this before? I'll be using fine grit sandpaper, but what kind of paint goes on smoothly? My GF's brother paints cars (Endicott Collision and Repair - Manassas) so I could have him bake the shell if required.... I'm not looking for flames about the integrity of the shell and the compacting of the foam. This thing is used like 4-5 times a year. Now if it had been my Shoei..... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:35:00 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08406 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:34:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgqak24731; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256777.0050919D ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:40:01 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "McCoy Brian NAB02" cc: "'dc'" Message-ID: <85256777.00509010.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:26:01 -0400 Subject: RE: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I just ordered a Reg/Rec yesterday for my bike and I think it was something like $125!!! I hate Coleman... - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "McCoy Brian NAB02" on 05/20/99 07:46:36 AM To: "'dc'" cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: RE: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? Not only their bikes.. I got a written quote on a part (reg/rec for an 87 VFR) and called them up looking for one I wouldn't have to order.. Asked for a price, got something like $215 - asked if they'd be willing to match the price of a local dealer, and that I had a written quote I could fax them. They asked my quoted price (was $147 or so), and said that the OEM Honda part wasn't available for that price.. Funny, I got an OEM Honda part for $170 (overnight shipping included)... But we all already knew that these guys are loosers. Right? Brian From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:35:11 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08484 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:35:10 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (325) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2FZOa29725 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:34:02 EDT Subject: drive-bys To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 this morning, I'm riding pretty much in the middle of a one lane street (which is actually wide enough for two cars but there's usually some parked) and the car that was behind me suddenly speeds up and zooms past my left side with about a foot of space between us. now it wasn't like he missed me by inches or anything but I pulled up next to him at the red light and said something like "hey - don't come so close next time! you were 'this far' from my leg" .... he starts telling me how he wasn't close at all and he has a bike himself so he knows what he's doing!!! LOL just seems to me that if someone has a bike themselves they wouldn't be likely to buzz someone else on a bike ... or maybe he meant a bicycle..... :D LOL Marcy From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:39:17 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08525 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:39:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26464 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiamat.obscure.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [199.34.35.130]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27761 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiamat.obscure.org (tiamat.obscure.org [199.34.35.130]) by tiamat.obscure.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA09003; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:39:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:39:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Brown To: Mike Troutman cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990520101626.01aa3e60@mail.wheatintl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Unless you're just keeping it for show, don't bother with the sandpaper. Replace it. You head is worth being SURE that the helmet's intergrity is still intact. If its hit the ground, who knows. Even if this is your passenger helmet... would you be willing to bet someone else's life on whether or not that helmet is good? On Thu, 20 May 1999, Mike Troutman wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:22:17 -0400 > From: Mike Troutman > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: oops - helmet casualty > > So I am about to cross 28 at Stone Road when a little old cager lady with > her left turn signal on whip from left to my center lane. I speed up and > drop around her (making the green light) when I hear the sound of nothing > sitting behind me. That would be my spare helmet that is no longer > attached to my sissy bars. DOH! > > Pull a quick U-Turn and find said helmet on the side of the road, scratched > all to Hell. It was a very short drop, and it spent most of it's time > rolling, not bouncing based on the situation. It is one season old. > > I will be sanding and painting this helmet (and replacing the windscreen of > course) to at least make it look normal. Has anyone done this before? > I'll be using fine grit sandpaper, but what kind of paint goes on smoothly? > My GF's brother paints cars (Endicott Collision and Repair - Manassas) so > I could have him bake the shell if required.... > > I'm not looking for flames about the integrity of the shell and the > compacting of the foam. This thing is used like 4-5 times a year. Now if > it had been my Shoei..... > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > > Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:40:17 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08546 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:40:15 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (325) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oVMMa06834; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:38:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2fa086a8.24757862@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:38:26 EDT Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 just make sure you don't need some kind of primer before you apply the paint - as for the paint - probably some kind of laquer or enamel....and if you're going to get creative and paint on racing stripes or whatever you might want an airbrush...actually - let me know what you end up doing for paint cause I might want to paint mine just for fun (I don't like the commercial designs I've seen so far... they're all for boys) ;D Marcy In a message dated 5/20/99 10:29:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << I will be sanding and painting this helmet (and replacing the windscreen of course) to at least make it look normal. Has anyone done this before? I'll be using fine grit sandpaper, but what kind of paint goes on smoothly? >> From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:45:14 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web306.yahoomail.com (web306.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.188]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08716 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990520144754.25986.rocketmail@web306.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.37.40] by web306.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:47:54 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:47:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Synthetic Oil To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mitch, You'll be fine going to synth. Just pay attention to which one you get. For Mobil 1, 15w50 is the only one (with exception of their motorcycle specific oils$$$) that does not have anti-friction additives. Any other weight and you might experience clutch slipage... on the other hand I know a few people that used other weights and had no problems... If your clutch is on it's last dying legs, you may experience some slippage there too, but you would have had the slippage soon enough if your clutch is that bad off... You can also look at using a blend such as golden spectro.. about the same price as Mobil 1 and easy to find at the shops in gallon jugs... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:45:38 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08726 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26533 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:45:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay4.UU.NET (relay4.UU.NET [192.48.96.14]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27920 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay4.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgqak01234; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256777.0051821A ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:50:17 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "Mike Troutman" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256777.005180FE.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:36:17 -0400 Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline At least you didn't throw your Shoei on the ground in a rage over the chipped paint on your bike like some people! LOL (heh heh, I'm going to hear about this later!) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "Mike Troutman" on 05/20/99 10:22:17 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: oops - helmet casualty So I am about to cross 28 at Stone Road when a little old cager lady with her left turn signal on whip from left to my center lane. I speed up and drop around her (making the green light) when I hear the sound of nothing sitting behind me. That would be my spare helmet that is no longer attached to my sissy bars. DOH! Pull a quick U-Turn and find said helmet on the side of the road, scratched all to Hell. It was a very short drop, and it spent most of it's time rolling, not bouncing based on the situation. It is one season old. I will be sanding and painting this helmet (and replacing the windscreen of course) to at least make it look normal. Has anyone done this before? I'll be using fine grit sandpaper, but what kind of paint goes on smoothly? My GF's brother paints cars (Endicott Collision and Repair - Manassas) so I could have him bake the shell if required.... I'm not looking for flames about the integrity of the shell and the compacting of the foam. This thing is used like 4-5 times a year. Now if it had been my Shoei..... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:46:33 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08736 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26546 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:46:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA27971 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 397; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:46:41 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990520104513.01aa9770@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:46:38 -0400 To: Dan Brown From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990520101626.01aa3e60@mail.wheatintl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:39 AM 5/20/99 , Dan Brown wrote: >Unless you're just keeping it for show, don't bother with the sandpaper. >Replace it. You head is worth being SURE that the helmet's intergrity >is still intact. If its hit the ground, who knows. > >Even if this is your passenger helmet... would you be willing to bet >someone else's life on whether or not that helmet is good? Dan, obviously you didn't read my whole post. I know that the helmet could have internal problems, but it isn't likely given the situation, so don't bother with the sermons. It is a passenger helmet, it is used very infrequently, so yes I am willing to take that chance given all of the odds involved. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:52:45 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08843 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:52:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26651 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:52:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiamat.obscure.org (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [199.34.35.130]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28080 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:52:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tiamat.obscure.org (tiamat.obscure.org [199.34.35.130]) by tiamat.obscure.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA09573; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:52:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:52:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Brown To: Mike Troutman cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990520104513.01aa9770@mail.wheatintl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I did read your whole post and still sent my message. Yours is a casual attitude towards safety and liability that I just can't agree with. Dump the helmet. The cost and risk isn't worth it, especially in this world where you can get sued for looking at someone crosseyed. On Thu, 20 May 1999, Mike Troutman wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:46:38 -0400 > From: Mike Troutman > To: Dan Brown > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty > > At 10:39 AM 5/20/99 , Dan Brown wrote: > >Unless you're just keeping it for show, don't bother with the sandpaper. > >Replace it. You head is worth being SURE that the helmet's intergrity > >is still intact. If its hit the ground, who knows. > > > >Even if this is your passenger helmet... would you be willing to bet > >someone else's life on whether or not that helmet is good? > > Dan, obviously you didn't read my whole post. I know that the helmet could > have internal problems, but it isn't likely given the situation, so don't > bother with the sermons. It is a passenger helmet, it is used very > infrequently, so yes I am willing to take that chance given all of the odds > involved. > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > > Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:55:17 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailprime.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08864 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:53:52 EDT Message-Id: <199905201053.AA751435890@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? X-Mailer: Hey, I'm one of the leading Coleman bashers on the list, but I've got to say that I got a really screaming deal at Coleman's Woodbridge on a rear Dunlop K491 tire for my Concours. They were a full $50 less than what Manassas Honda wanted for the SAME tire! For once I walked out of the place happy. :) They had bunches more tires there, too. Maybe a philosophy shift, competing with mail-order prices? Who knows? Dale -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:55:57 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA08874 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:55:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990520145734.16986.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.37.40] by web303.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 07:57:34 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have to agree with Dan.. besides, you can replace the helmet for about as much as you're going to spend on prepping and painting (Unless you're using a spraycan ;-)) Duane Griffith at Dixie Cycles has offered some awesome deals to anyone calling and mentioning dc-cycles racing or Brian McCoy or my name.... I just bought a new Bell Legacy for $120. THe lower model (Star) would only have been $100) and that's on brands that he normally doesn't deal in.... his Shoei and Arai prices are phenominal... Cue Brian to post the phone number .... I have it at work.. where I should be heading now ;-) Collin --- Dan Brown wrote: > > > Unless you're just keeping it for show, don't bother with the > sandpaper. > Replace it. You head is worth being SURE that the helmet's intergrity > is still intact. If its hit the ground, who knows. > > Even if this is your passenger helmet... would you be willing to bet > someone else's life on whether or not that helmet is good? > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 10:59:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA08971 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:59:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA26775 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA28280 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 10:59:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id HAA28826 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Thu, 20 May 1999 07:58:52 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Thu, 20 May 1999 07:58:52 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: oops - helmet casualty Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 07:58:48 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mike, repainting depends on the type of headshell material. If it's a fiberglass or glass/kevlar shell, painting shouldn't be a problem - any good spray enamel will do the job (with a little bondo to fill the gouges) If you have a polycarbonale (Lexan) shell - painting is an iffy thing, as the solvents in some paints react with the plastic - the helmet manufacturer will have the straight scoop. Liner compression shouldn't be a concern here, as there wasn't a head in the helmet to compress the foam - what you're looking for here is a cracked shell (helmet is trash). Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 11:06:52 1999 Return-Path: berman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09226 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:06:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20530; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:06:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles , GPz Mailing List Subject: ZRX Spotted Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I went to see the new Star Wars last night in Manassas, VA. Low and behold, in th eparking lot, was a new ZRX with less than 1,000 miles on it. Nice looking swingarm. Just out of curiosity, does it belong to anyone here? -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 11:09:23 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09245 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26952 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28534 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:07:52 EDT Message-Id: <199905201107.AA1116864644@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty X-Mailer: From: "Mike Troutman" > I know that the helmet could have internal problems, Actually, I've never figured out how dropping a helmet could hurt the internal foam padding. I just can't picture the styrofoam compressing inside an empty helmet when it hits. Even if the outer shell is weakened to the point where it would crack from one more good solid hit, so what? Helmets are only good for one good solid hit, anyway. Now I can understand why you'd want to replace a helmet that hits ground when you are wearing it. My flying dismount last February saw me doing a nice faceplant, hitting essentially forehead first, with all my weight behind it. I probably did a really good job compressing styrofoam on that landing. :( THAT helmet got retired. With full honors. ;) Dale (it never really matched the bike anyways...) -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 11:23:00 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09529 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A8BF5C370110; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:22:39 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990520111145.01361a90@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:23:58 -0400 To: dc-cycles From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Synthetic Oil In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" No one argues that synthetic oil isn't better than dino oil, but there are concerns about cost/value, and compatiblity. The cost/value is really a personal issue. I prefer synthetic in my air-cooled bikes because the engines get so darned hot (I've recorded 300 deg. F oil temperatures). Dino oil can't last at those temperatures. Compatibility depends a lot on the bike. 1) Leaks - there's few problems with leaks anymore, but there were some in the past. Just try it and see. 2) Clutches (engine/transmission) - some people have problems, some don't. Try it and see. A clutch that is near to worn out may slip with synthetic oil while a new clutch won't. 3) Clutches (starter) - some bikes, like my Hondas, use an oil-lubricated roller-type starter clutch. The starter clutch keeps the starter from being damaged when the engine starts and spins faster than the starter. I can't use synthetic oil in my Hondas in the winter because the starter clutches won't stay engaged. Drain the synthetic, put in Castrol, problem solved. Replace with synthetic in the Spring. 4) Engine break-in -- with BMWs and their long-lived engines, the engines don't break in until 10, 20, or sometimes 30,000 miles. People generally watch their oil consumption, and when it drops the piston rings have sealed and you can switch to synthetic oil. Give it a try. Synthetic oil is wonderful stuff. Just don't try to cut corners by delaying oil changes since synthetic is better oil. Changing oil gets rid of the garbage that gathers in the oil, and is when you change the filter - neither really matter on the quality of the oil.. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar *********************************************************************** At 09:57 AM 5/20/99 , Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO wrote: >Again, thanks for all the replies. Unfortunately, I'm confused now. I >thought switching to synth would be a good thing, but I'm getting >conflicting reports after my announcement of switching. So this is one of >those YMMV things? 'Cuz if there's no real consensus, I'll probably stick >with dino; that's what I know, and the bike's been running well with it (if >it ain't broke, don't fix it). > >Mitch Holmes >1986 Honda Magna VF700C > >-----Original Message----- > > >I've got Mobil 1 in both my bikes, an 84 Magna 500 and the 98 VFR and have >never had any clutch slipping. > > > >Yeah, it prolly is. However, I put synth in my ole' Interceptor with >similar miles and I suffered clutch problems. Slipping over 6K forced me >to rebuild the clutch. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 11:25:21 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09550 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:25:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27266 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:25:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA28918 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FC10091SE86N6@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:12:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta03.mcit.com (omzmta03.mcit.com [166.37.194.121]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA00718; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:11:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta03.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990520151204.PQDF8656@toddnt>; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:12:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:09:31 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: oops - helmet casualty In-reply-to: To: Dan Brown , Mike Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000501bea2d2$c30d1940$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal You guys and your stinking helmets. I agree with mike on this one. The odds and risks seem so low they are immaterial. Todd (looking at you crosseyed) > > > I did read your whole post and still sent my message. Yours is a casual > attitude towards safety and liability that I just can't agree with. > > Dump the helmet. The cost and risk isn't worth it, especially in this > world where you can get sued for looking at someone crosseyed. > > > Dan, obviously you didn't read my whole post. I know that the > helmet could > > have internal problems, but it isn't likely given the > situation, so don't > > bother with the sermons. It is a passenger helmet, it is used very > > infrequently, so yes I am willing to take that chance given all From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 11:34:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09733 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:34:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27409 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:34:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29208 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:34:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id AB8B41A0228; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:34:35 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990520113126.01c0fb40@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:35:55 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty In-Reply-To: <199905201107.AA1116864644@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:07 AM 5/20/99 , Horkster wrote: >Actually, I've never figured out how dropping a helmet >could hurt the internal foam padding. I just can't picture the >styrofoam compressing inside an empty helmet when it hits. The styrofoam doesn't compress unless there is a mass behind it (like your head). >Even if the outer shell is weakened to the point where it >would crack from one more good solid hit, so what? Helmets >are only good for one good solid hit, anyway. The concern is that since the helmet has already had a whack, or several of them by hitting and rolling/bouncing on the hard road surface, that the helmet will no longer be good for yet another hit. The function of the hard shell of the helmet is to spread out the impact to a larger area. It can't do this if it's already fractured. Personally, I wear a helmet if all it does is fall off the seat. Falling off a moving bike and bouncing along on the road is worth replacing it. Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar >Now I can understand why you'd want to replace a helmet that >hits ground when you are wearing it. My flying dismount last >February saw me doing a nice faceplant, hitting essentially >forehead first, with all my weight behind it. I probably did >a really good job compressing styrofoam on that landing. :( > >THAT helmet got retired. With full honors. ;) > >Dale (it never really matched the bike anyways...) > > > > > > >-- >Dale Horstman (The Horkster) >horkster@XXXXXX >Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > >"I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet >sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" >-- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 11:47:11 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA09984 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:47:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27523 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:47:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA29544 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:47:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990520154731.23728.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web304.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:47:31 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:47:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty To: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX, Mike Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii he he he... Looks like Jeannette's giving out all the juicy details Tom ;-) Don't feel bad... I did something very similar a few years back when I fell over on the GSXR at the end of the driveway... cept I THREW the helmet ... hard... and in the general direction of my wife who was smirking at me... he he he CT --- Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > > At least you didn't throw your Shoei on the ground in a rage over the > chipped > paint on your bike > like some people! LOL > (heh heh, I'm going to hear about this later!) > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 11:54:40 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA10099 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:53:53 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: oops - helmet casualty Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:53:49 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Personally, I wear a helmet if all it does is fall off the > seat. Falling > off a moving bike and bouncing along on the road is worth > replacing it. How about if it's on a head that's moving along up near 100mph.. then suddenly having your front brake engaged by another riders tail-section, getting tossed and hitting yourself on the ground hard enough to induce a mild concussion for 2~3 days.. Think that helmet's still alright to wear? (not that I *cough, cough* know anyone who's been in this situation) What if I repaint it to look nice? *chuckle* comeon guys.. lay off - Mike's made up his mind, we're not going to change it. Brian M From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 12:01:26 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10319 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:06:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: oops - helmet casualty Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:06:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) D'oh.. I didn't even think of price.. and I was going to stay out of it.. but, Collin.. always watching out for our sponsors (and in Duanes case, semi-sponsor) gets me involved.. :P Duane Griffith Dixie Cycle 318-368-3172 aloetran@XXXXXX Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan [mailto:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] > I have to agree with Dan.. besides, you can replace the helmet for > about as much as you're going to spend on prepping and > painting (Unless > you're using a spraycan ;-)) > > Duane Griffith at Dixie Cycles has offered some awesome deals > to anyone > calling and mentioning dc-cycles racing or Brian McCoy or my > name.... I > just bought a new Bell Legacy for $120. THe lower model (Star) would > only have been $100) and that's on brands that he normally > doesn't deal > in.... his Shoei and Arai prices are phenominal... > Cue Brian to post the phone number .... I have it at work.. where I From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 12:13:16 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web305.yahoomail.com (web305.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.187]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA10517 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990520161253.21030.rocketmail@web305.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web305.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 09:12:53 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:12:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: oops - helmet casualty To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > How about if it's on a head that's moving along up near 100mph.. then > suddenly having your front brake engaged by another riders > tail-section, > getting tossed and hitting yourself on the ground hard enough to > induce a > mild concussion for 2~3 days.. Think that helmet's still alright to > wear? > (not that I *cough, cough* know anyone who's been in this situation) > What > if I repaint it to look nice? Alright wise guy.... Turn 1 is only about 60 mph(??) or so.... The new helmet has already been ordered...as soon as it gets here I may find someone that has some land out in the country so I can see what a .338 WinMag will do to an RF800 ;-) Collin "Crash" Fagan "I ain't got no drain bammage!!" === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 12:20:18 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA10715 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:20:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA27971 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:20:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA00300 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 343; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:20:25 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990520121355.01aac850@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:20:22 -0400 To: "Jordan, Michael" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: oops - helmet casualty In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:58 AM 5/20/99 , Jordan, Michael wrote: >Mike, repainting depends on the type of headshell material. If it's a >fiberglass or glass/kevlar shell, painting shouldn't be a problem - any good >spray enamel will do the job (with a little bondo to fill the gouges) > >If you have a polycarbonale (Lexan) shell - painting is an iffy thing, as >the solvents in some paints react with the plastic - the helmet manufacturer >will have the straight scoop. > >Liner compression shouldn't be a concern here, as there wasn't a head in the >helmet to compress the foam - what you're looking for here is a cracked >shell (helmet is trash). Thanks for the input. It is a fiberglass shell. No gouges, just roughed up paint in many spots (and trashed visor due to scrapes). Thanks for everyones' concerns as well. I knew this might start a helmet usability flame war, but the list has been quiet lately. As for my safety concerns - I am also a rock climber. I use rope (which is very expensive) for only two seasons before retiring it. Webbing for 2 as well. Both could last 4-5 years before needing to be replaced, but I just don't trust it. This helmet is a different situation. If this had been the helmet I wear every day, I would have trashed it and replaced it today. But the fact is that it is most likely *fine* without any weight to cause serious integrity damage. And it is only worn 4-5 times a year. The only way I would replace it is if 1) it is more expensive to repair than replace or 2) there is a local shop that offers serious new helmet discounts when you turn one like this in. MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 13:47:34 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm03sm.pmm.cw.net (pm03sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.152]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12555 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:47:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr10-dialup22.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.68.86]) by PM03SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35317) with SMTP id <0FC100O54LDV7U@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:46:46 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:45:32 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Used Bikes To: DC Cycles Message-id: <000101bea2c7$0add00c0$56443ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Anyone have some good links to used bikes? Send them my way...... Jon From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 13:48:31 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12565 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA11439 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:48:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199905201748.NAA11439@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:44:26 -0400 Subject: Camping Gear Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Okay, it looks like I'll actually be camping out for the GPZ rally in June... only problem is, I have no camping gear whatsoever! :-) Any recommendations with regard to tent or sleeping bag brands? Anything in particular to look out for? I saw some self-inflating sleep pads at Galyans today.. are they worth the $$? Who knows, maybe I'll like this camping stuff, and do it more often! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:01:58 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA12851 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:01:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 11:01:38 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Camping Gear Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:01:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Ok.. you're in a bad place.. :P That's being one where you might be interested in camping, but you're not sure. At this point you can either buy as cheap as possible, make due with the bad quality till you know and either don't buy because you don't like it, or buy quality. OR, you can rent (I believe REI still rents camping gear)... this allows you more freedom to use quality gear and discover if you'll like the whole process.. or, if you think you'll be relitivly into it.. and will be camping more than 2~3 times a year, it's worth it to buy the gear - which is what I did - paying close attention to packing things on a motorcycle - where I'm not so terribly concerned with weight, but I am with size. I'd hit up an REI or similar store and get to talking with one of the sales people.. they'll be able to point you in the direction that'll work best (I just use REI a lot because there's one close to my house.. and the people aren't pushy to sell you something (for the most part))... Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita Lauro [mailto:2xracers@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 1:44 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Camping Gear > > > Okay, it looks like I'll actually be camping out for the GPZ rally in > June... only problem is, I have no camping gear whatsoever! :-) > > Any recommendations with regard to tent or sleeping bag brands? > Anything in particular to look out for? I saw some self-inflating > sleep pads at Galyans today.. are they worth the $$? Who knows, > maybe I'll like this camping stuff, and do it more often! :-) > > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:13:27 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13034 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:13:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA18122 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:13:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:13:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Camping Gear In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 20 May 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > At this point you can either buy as cheap as possible, make due with > the bad quality till you know and either don't buy because you don't > like it, or buy quality. Places like WalMart, KMart, Sunny's, etc all have cheap stuff that's functional enough for moto camping. Stuff that'll last for years, weigh little, pack small, and actually keep you warm when it's cold costs much more. You can always borrow stuff from someone else (e.g., I've got a little tent that you can borrow so long as my wife's not using it at the beach). > I just use REI a lot because there's one close to my house.. No, I have an REI CLOSE to MY house... :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:19:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13113 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29652 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA04044 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) with SMTP; 20 May 1999 17:25:45 UT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:22 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Collin T. Fagan" , "Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX" , "mike@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty Message-ID: <19990520122324684-4a5a779@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yeah... looks like it! What she didn't mention though was that I had just gotten the bodywork back from the painter and the tail had decided to do a back flip off of the VFR which took a nice chuck out of the paint (and the fiberglass gel-coat). Then the bike wouldn't start, and when it did it would not stay running, and then the battery went tits up from trying to crank it over. Finally, in a blind rage, I picked up the helmet and tossed it pretty hard onto the ground. Had I really thrown it on the ground (there is a difference between tossed and thrown... even though one might not be able to tell) it would have come apart! Needless to say though it got tossed a couple more times that weekend! And needless to say also, it has been put out of service. Tom '86 VFR750 <--- waiting for owner to finish up fiberglass repairs tonight. wooohooo! ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty Author: gixer_racer@XXXXXX (Collin T. Fagan) Date: 5/20/99 11:47 AM he he he... Looks like Jeannette's giving out all the juicy details Tom ;-) Don't feel bad... I did something very similar a few years back when I fell over on the GSXR at the end of the driveway... cept I THREW the helmet ... hard... and in the general direction of my wife who was smirking at me... he he he CT --- Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX wrote: > > > At least you didn't throw your Shoei on the ground in a rage over the > chipped > paint on your bike > like some people! LOL > (heh heh, I'm going to hear about this later!) > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:21:02 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13204 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:21:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id OAA14343; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:20:26 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA09403; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:20:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:20:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Camping Gear In-Reply-To: <199905201748.NAA11439@radagast.wizard.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well I just picked up a Kelty "Le Tour" sleeping bag at lunch today. It's a warm weather bag and it seems to pack up into a pretty small package. I'll be using it this weekend at the races and will tell you how it works out. I also own a Sierra(I think that's the name of the company) Cliplight tent. This is tent takes up less room than the sleeping bag and is very easy to put up and take down. I haven't tested the tents poor weather performance and hope not to ;-). ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:21:03 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13202 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:20:56 -0400 (EDT) From: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from jnewman ([192.168.13.162]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA04019; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:23:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199905201723.NAA04019@bmdo.mcri.com> To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:15:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Camping Gear Priority: normal In-reply-to: <199905201748.NAA11439@radagast.wizard.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Anita, You might want to go by Eastern Mountain Sports [EMS] in Tysons, or REI and check out what they have in the way of rentals. I worked at EMS for a while and we rented all of out most of the gear we sold, so people could try the stuff out before they bought a $450. tent or $300. sleeping bag. Rental prices are real reasonable, and since most people didn't think to rent stuff from us, most of the equipment has never been used. [ The gear is replaced every year in order to rent the most current stuff ] If you call the store in Tysons, ask to speak with Brian the manager, and let him know you are part of a club Called DC Cycles, and if the gear works out, you would give the store a big plug to all the other members... Good Luck, -John Newman 88 FZR 400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date sent: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:44:26 -0400 Subject: Camping Gear Priority: normal > Okay, it looks like I'll actually be camping out for the GPZ rally in > June... only problem is, I have no camping gear whatsoever! :-) > > Any recommendations with regard to tent or sleeping bag brands? > Anything in particular to look out for? I saw some self-inflating > sleep pads at Galyans today.. are they worth the $$? Who knows, > maybe I'll like this camping stuff, and do it more often! :-) > > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:23:46 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13262 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:23:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 473; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:23:24 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990520141706.01adb2b0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:22:43 -0400 To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Camping Gear In-Reply-To: <199905201748.NAA11439@radagast.wizard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:44 PM 5/20/99 , Anita Lauro wrote: >Okay, it looks like I'll actually be camping out for the GPZ rally in >June... only problem is, I have no camping gear whatsoever! :-) > >Any recommendations with regard to tent or sleeping bag brands? >Anything in particular to look out for? I saw some self-inflating >sleep pads at Galyans today.. are they worth the $$? Who knows, >maybe I'll like this camping stuff, and do it more often! :-) I camp quite a bit (havent tried to haul my gear on the bike yet) but your best bet are at REI, Appalachian Outfitters in Vienna, and EMS (Eastern Mountain Sports) in Fair Lakes and Tysons Corner. I found an awesome deal on my EMS brand tent and North Face bag. The tent is actually a North Face with an EMS label, 2 man with rain cover for around $140. Bag went for about the same price. Feathers are better if your bag gets wet - they dry out fast. They are also better for compression and warmth, but they cost extra. As for cooking and other supplies, those stores carry a lot of good stuff that is light but expensive. If you don't mind a tad extra weight, try Sunny's Surplus and Wal-Mart. Also get a ground cover (Home Depot 8x8 tarp) and cut it to fit the bottom of your tent. That will keep moisture from soaking up through the bottom and into your bag. Finally - be sure and get a good therma-rest or waffle-type pad to lay on. Bags don't help much on rough ground. I have a waffle-style one that is lighter and compacts better, but if you go with the therma-rest air filled, you can pick up a piece of plastic that transforms the pad into a chair. Nice luxury in the woods ;-) Cheers. MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:33:47 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13480 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:33:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA17232; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:33:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199905201833.OAA17232@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:29:46 -0400 Subject: RE: Camping Gear CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 20 May 99, at 11:01, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > OR, you can rent (I believe REI still rents camping gear)... this > allows you more freedom to use quality gear and discover if you'll > like the whole process.. Hey, great idea! I didn't even think of renting gear. I'll give REI and EMS a call to see what the costs and options are. Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:45:56 1999 Return-Path: berman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13767 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:45:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12270; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:45:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: Mike Troutman cc: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Camping Gear In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990520141706.01adb2b0@mail.wheatintl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It is my understanding the if you're going to entertain the possibility of a wet sleeping bag you definatley do NOT want down. They have no insulating capacity when wet and take a while to dry. Synthetics, on the other hadn, are effectivee when wet and dry quicker. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams On Thu, 20 May 1999, Mike Troutman wrote: > At 01:44 PM 5/20/99 , Anita Lauro wrote: > >Okay, it looks like I'll actually be camping out for the GPZ rally in > >June... only problem is, I have no camping gear whatsoever! :-) > > > >Any recommendations with regard to tent or sleeping bag brands? > >Anything in particular to look out for? I saw some self-inflating > >sleep pads at Galyans today.. are they worth the $$? Who knows, > >maybe I'll like this camping stuff, and do it more often! :-) > > I camp quite a bit (havent tried to haul my gear on the bike yet) but your > best bet are at REI, Appalachian Outfitters in Vienna, and EMS (Eastern > Mountain Sports) in Fair Lakes and Tysons Corner. I found an awesome deal > on my EMS brand tent and North Face bag. The tent is actually a North Face > with an EMS label, 2 man with rain cover for around $140. Bag went for > about the same price. Feathers are better if your bag gets wet - they dry > out fast. They are also better for compression and warmth, but they cost > extra. > > As for cooking and other supplies, those stores carry a lot of good stuff > that is light but expensive. If you don't mind a tad extra weight, try > Sunny's Surplus and Wal-Mart. Also get a ground cover (Home Depot 8x8 tarp) > and cut it to fit the bottom of your tent. That will keep moisture from > soaking up through the bottom and into your bag. > > Finally - be sure and get a good therma-rest or waffle-type pad to lay on. > Bags don't help much on rough ground. I have a waffle-style one that is > lighter and compacts better, but if you go with the therma-rest air filled, > you can pick up a piece of plastic that transforms the pad into a chair. > Nice luxury in the woods ;-) > > Cheers. > > MT > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:47:06 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13777 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:47:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FC100LVINDNZJ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:29:47 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta02.mcit.com (omzmta02.mcit.com [166.37.194.120]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA05241; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:29:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta02.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990520182941.PGPL18661@[166.38.156.10]>; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:29:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:27:06 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Camping Gear In-reply-to: To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Message-id: <000201bea2ee$5d41ebb0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > I'd hit up an REI or similar store and get to talking with one of > the sales > people.. they'll be able to point you in the direction that'll > work best (I > just use REI a lot because there's one close to my house.. and the people > aren't pushy to sell you something (for the most part))... > > Brian > And after spending all those big $$$'s there as a member, you get a %'ge dividend check the following year. I think I got $23 back this year (enough to buy a couple of decent AA batteries) :) Todd From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:50:01 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA13798 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:49:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 442; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:48:46 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990520144716.01ad3930@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:48:34 -0400 To: Morris Berman From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Camping Gear Cc: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990520141706.01adb2b0@mail.wheatintl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:45 PM 5/20/99 , Morris Berman wrote: >It is my understanding the if you're going to entertain the possibility of >a wet sleeping bag you definatley do NOT want down. They have no >insulating capacity when wet and take a while to dry. Synthetics, on the >other hadn, are effectivee when wet and dry quicker. Hmm. Thats not the way I heard it, but I could be wrong. Like the lottery, anything can happen ;-) ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:50:22 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13884 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:50:20 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id OAA22825; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:51:17 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma022077; Thu, 20 May 99 14:50:26 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FC100L2YODDFX@XXXXXX>; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256777.0067415C ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:47:49 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:43:10 -0400 Subject: RE: Oil Filters To: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" Cc: "'Jay St. Peter'" , "'DC Cycles'" Message-id: <85256777.0066F985.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Glenn, Those are great wrenches, IF you have the space for it. Unfortunately, on my RF, I'd have to drop side body panels to use it. I bought the $uzuki filter wrencj and use a ratchet with extension. --chris To: "'Jay St. Peter'" , 'DC Cycles' cc: From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" Date: 05/19/99 04:35:12 PM GMT Subject: RE: Oil Filters All, I still think I have the best oil wrench made and I have yet to put it on ANY vehicle that it won't fit on. No need for these "Jerry Rigs" you guys are proposing. In the clockwise position this wrench opens up, in the counter clockwise position is tightens on the filter and removes it. I think I only paid about $8 fir it at Trash Auto. Glenn >When I first bought my race bike, the PO had tightened the oil filter down >hard. I found that the hose clamp used to wire the filter makes a good >wrench. Just tighten it down and pound your screwdriver w/a hammer onto the >clamp and the filter turns. I have since bought another large hose clamp to >use as a wrench on my other bike. Works well in the limited access on some >sport bikes. ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 14:51:56 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from aloe.us.pw.com (pw21.pw9.com [208.141.52.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13924 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:51:54 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by aloe.us.pw.com; id OAA09857; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:48:00 -0400 Received: from palm.us.pw.com(10.9.16.43) by aloe.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma009013; Thu, 20 May 99 14:47:13 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by palm.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FC100MGCOF7H4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256777.0067761C ; Thu, 20 May 1999 14:50:04 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:40:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Camping Gear To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256777.00673F20.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Anita, I've been camping a lot, albeit not while on a motorcycle trip. I think I can answer some of your questions. Regarding the sleep pads - if you're going to camp a lot (more than a couple of times a year), go with the inflatable Thermarest-style pad. It's worth it. If you're only camping once in a blue moon, get the corrugated foam style. Regarding tents - don't buy a North Face or other pricy tent. They're pricy mostly because they're made for extreme weather, have a lifetime repair/replacement guarantee, and/or have a popular name. Eureka makes good, inexpensive tents, as do REI (only found in REI stores - Bailey's Xroads and College Park) and a few other brands. If this is a one or two-time deal, just get a tent from K-mart. Alternatively, you could get a bivy sack (basically a big bag around you and your sleeping bag). These take getting used to, however, and you can't store things in them. However, they do pack down pretty small. Regarding sleeping bags - again, if you're only going once in a while and in good weather, just go to K-mart. If it will be cold or you want something more durable, Feathered Friends, Mountain Hard Wear, North Face, are good brands but can be pricy. If you expect to get your bag wet while in cold conditions, get synthetic filling. If not, down is warmer in cold weather and cotten is cheapo but effective for summer camping. Think about how much space the bag (and tent, for that matter) will take up on your bike. I recommend getting a groundcloth if you want to keep from getting mildew or holes in the bottom of your tent. This can just be a plastic tarp. Also, a small camping pillow will be a nice thing to have - using rolled up clothes is not going to give you a restful night's sleep. Chris Weaver Okay, it looks like I'll actually be camping out for the GPZ rally in June... only problem is, I have no camping gear whatsoever! :-) Any recommendations with regard to tent or sleeping bag brands? Anything in particular to look out for? I saw some self-inflating sleep pads at Galyans today.. are they worth the $$? Who knows, maybe I'll like this camping stuff, and do it more often! :-) Anita ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 15:02:45 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14108 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:02:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:02:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Oil Filters Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:01:55 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > -----Original Message----- > Unfortunately, on > my RF, I'd have to drop side body panels to use it. I bought > the $uzuki > filter wrencj and use a ratchet with extension. You don't have to remove the plastic to drain the oil? From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 15:24:59 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14539 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A1837336010C; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:24:51 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990520152515.01c095f0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:26:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Bike Thief Caught, Flattened Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject: Ouch!(from www.motorcycleworld.co.uk) Bike thief flattened! Tuesday May 18th 1999 BIKE thieves in Britain should think themselves lucky. The worst they'll get is a spell behind bars if they're caught grabbing our mounts. In Uganda the 'justice' can be swifter and far more final. Patrick Kalyeri made the fatal mistake of stealing a bike from a motorcycle taxi rider at gunpoint near the city of Kampala. After the thief made his getaway the aggrieved owner rustled up a posse of angry bikers, tracked the hapless Kalyeri down to a petrol station at Kasangati and tied him to the road. The mob of 20-plus bikers then proceeded to ride over and over him until he was flattened, and very, very dead. Turn to page nine to read about the damage British bike thieves From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 15:34:46 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14741 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:34:44 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id PAA02411; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:34:37 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xmaa01862; Thu, 20 May 99 15:33:51 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FC10057YQF3KI@XXXXXX>; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256777.006B503B ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:32:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:22:08 -0400 Subject: Re: Camping Gear To: Mike Troutman Cc: Morris Berman , Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256777.006B041A.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Sorry, Mike. You are wrong this time. Down does not hold its insulating properties when wet. Synthetic does. As a climber, I know people who have had to be rescued from a multi-day climb because they brought down bags and got wet. In cold weather, staying in a wet down bag is a good way to die of hypothermia. Chris Weaver At 02:45 PM 5/20/99 , Morris Berman wrote: >It is my understanding the if you're going to entertain the possibility of >a wet sleeping bag you definatley do NOT want down. They have no >insulating capacity when wet and take a while to dry. Synthetics, on the >other hadn, are effectivee when wet and dry quicker. Mike Troutman wrote: Hmm. Thats not the way I heard it, but I could be wrong. Like the lottery, anything can happen ;-) ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. 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From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 15:43:21 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA14967 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37788) with ESMTP id <0FC10005EPSZ45@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:22:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta02.mcit.com (omzmta02.mcit.com [166.37.194.120]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id TAA30886; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:18:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta02.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 120) with SMTP id <19990520192210.PQXA18661@[166.38.156.10]>; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:22:10 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:19:35 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Oil Filters In-reply-to: To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Message-id: <000301bea2f5$b2411710$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal I don't. But I do have to loosen it. On my CB750, it is more trouble than it's worth to fit a wrench over the filter due tot he fact that it sits behind the exhaust pipes. BTW, just changed the oil last night in that beast (35,754 miles on so far!), and used a simple leather belt to get it spinning. No problemo. You guys with your fancy schmancy wrenches are just afraid to get your hands a little dirty ;) Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [mailto:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 3:02 PM > To: 'dc' > Subject: RE: Oil Filters > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Unfortunately, on > > my RF, I'd have to drop side body panels to use it. I bought > > the $uzuki > > filter wrencj and use a ratchet with extension. > > You don't have to remove the plastic to drain the oil? > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 15:45:18 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA14997 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:44:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990520194846.21008.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.99.227] by web301.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 12:48:46 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:48:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: RE: Oil Filters To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Not on a Suzuki ;-) the fairing doesn't run underneath the oil pan.... --- "McCoy, Brian NAB02" wrote: > You don't have to remove the plastic to drain the oil? > > === Collin T. 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Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 15:57:04 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA15284 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 373; Thu, 20 May 1999 15:56:52 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990520155420.017f1e60@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 15:56:45 -0400 To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: Oil Filters In-Reply-To: <000301bea2f5$b2411710$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:19 PM 5/20/99 , Todd Peer wrote: >I don't. But I do have to loosen it. > >On my CB750, it is more trouble than it's worth to fit a wrench over the >filter due tot he fact that it sits behind the exhaust pipes. BTW, just >changed the oil last night in that beast (35,754 miles on so far!), and used >a simple leather belt to get it spinning. No problemo. > >You guys with your fancy schmancy wrenches are just afraid to get your hands >a little dirty ;) I used a wrench on my cb750. It was a pain in the ass at first, then I realized the trick. The top of the pipes have a gap just big enough for the filter wrench. The REAL pain is that you are supposed to warm up the bike a bit before changing the oil, which means those pipes are HOT. Catch-22 w/o some oven mits. MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 16:33:05 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA15977 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:33:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA21357 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:32:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Legal bikes Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For a state by state breakdown of necessary motorcycle equipment check out: http://www.law4hogs.com/laws On both the MD and VA pages they list that motorcycles don't need turn signals. I'm trying to track down whether or not that's correct for MD. If they're not required I'm pulling them off the dirt bike since I use hand signals on the short street runs on that anyway... Does anyone know if that's correct for VA? They also list that a speedo/odo aren't required in VA... I wonder if that one's true (it would mean less trouble to make a dirt bike street legal). Thanks, Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 16:46:29 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16255 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA00886; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:46:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199905202046.QAA00886@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Kirk Roy Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:42:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Legal bikes CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Yes, it's true that bikes in VA don't have to have turn signals. If they do have them, however, they have to be working. Anita On 20 May 99, at 16:32, Kirk Roy wrote: > For a state by state breakdown of necessary motorcycle equipment check > out: http://www.law4hogs.com/laws > > On both the MD and VA pages they list that motorcycles don't need turn > signals. I'm trying to track down whether or not that's correct for MD. If > they're not required I'm pulling them off the dirt bike since I use hand > signals on the short street runs on that anyway... Does anyone know if > that's correct for VA? They also list that a speedo/odo aren't required in > VA... I wonder if that one's true (it would mean less trouble to make a > dirt bike street legal). > > Thanks, > > Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 16:47:38 1999 Return-Path: l4rite@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16277 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:47:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from defcon (207-172-187-90.s90.tnt18.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.187.90]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA18893 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:48:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003101bea2a6$01fecfe0$5abbaccf@defcon> From: "LES" To: References: <85256777.00509010.00@172.16.2.37> Subject: Re: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:49:08 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I just ordered a Reg/Rec yesterday for my bike and I think it was something like $125!!! I hate Coleman... Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 Actually Jeannette, that isn't too bad of a price for a reg/rec...I checked with all the local shops and mail order when I needed one and they all had the same price of $169.98...of course I wound up getting it from Cycle Sport in Springfield, just because I like them and they have given me good deals before....I've also gotten some things cheaper at Colemans, but usually only if its a common piece and they have alot in stock...oh to live near a salvage yard.....enjoy Les From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 16:47:58 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA16286 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 390; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:47:27 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990520164607.0182a830@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:47:24 -0400 To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: Legal bikes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:32 PM 5/20/99 , Kirk Roy wrote: >For a state by state breakdown of necessary motorcycle equipment check >out: http://www.law4hogs.com/laws > >On both the MD and VA pages they list that motorcycles don't need turn >signals. I'm trying to track down whether or not that's correct for MD. If >they're not required I'm pulling them off the dirt bike since I use hand >signals on the short street runs on that anyway... Does anyone know if >that's correct for VA? They also list that a speedo/odo aren't required in >VA... I wonder if that one's true (it would mean less trouble to make a >dirt bike street legal). Not sure, but VA checked my turn signal lamps during my last inspection. Maybe if you have them, they have to work? Should be easy to find out at one of the government law web pages. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 17:00:41 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16545 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:00:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 20 May 1999 20:08:00 UT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:59 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Kirk Roy" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Legal bikes Message-ID: <19990520170101330-99ddb9@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Don't know about the speedo/odometer requirement but in VA it's a all or none policy on the turn signals. If you have'em on the back you have to have them on the front. You can remove them altogether if you wish. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Legal bikes Author: kirk@XXXXXX (Kirk Roy) Date: 5/20/99 4:32 PM For a state by state breakdown of necessary motorcycle equipment check out: http://www.law4hogs.com/laws On both the MD and VA pages they list that motorcycles don't need turn signals. I'm trying to track down whether or not that's correct for MD. If they're not required I'm pulling them off the dirt bike since I use hand signals on the short street runs on that anyway... Does anyone know if that's correct for VA? They also list that a speedo/odo aren't required in VA... I wonder if that one's true (it would mean less trouble to make a dirt bike street legal). Thanks, Kirk From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 17:06:01 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from relay7.UU.NET (relay7.UU.NET [192.48.96.17]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA16651 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:05:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by relay7.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgqbk26103; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:05:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 85256777.00745F4F ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:11:05 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT To: "LES" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256777.00745D95.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:57:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sorry, I know it was a good price! My statement was a little unclear...this was mail-order, not Coleman... - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 "LES" on 05/20/99 05:49:08 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: (bcc: Jeannette Zell/SPPT/US) Subject: Re: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? I just ordered a Reg/Rec yesterday for my bike and I think it was something like $125!!! I hate Coleman... Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 Actually Jeannette, that isn't too bad of a price for a reg/rec...I checked with all the local shops and mail order when I needed one and they all had the same price of $169.98...of course I wound up getting it from Cycle Sport in Springfield, just because I like them and they have given me good deals before....I've also gotten some things cheaper at Colemans, but usually only if its a common piece and they have alot in stock...oh to live near a salvage yard.....enjoy Les From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 17:06:38 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA16661 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:06:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw_ext.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 20 May 1999 20:14:01 UT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:05 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "LES" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? Message-ID: <19990520170701958-9f5e6e@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That wasn't from Coleman but from ElectrexUSA in California. Coleman wants over $200 for the OEM piece of crap. That's why she hates them. On the other hand though I picked up a sweet AGV helmet from them (a Biaggi Q3 in Day-Glo Green) for $189. They were asking $469 originally. Now... granted it was last years model, but for the money I couldn't find a better deal. It's super quiet and much more comfortable than my Shoei RF700 was. Thanks Jeannette for the early birthday present!! :-) Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their bikes? Author: l4rite@XXXXXX (LES) Date: 5/20/99 5:49 AM I just ordered a Reg/Rec yesterday for my bike and I think it was something like $125!!! I hate Coleman... Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 Actually Jeannette, that isn't too bad of a price for a reg/rec...I checked with all the local shops and mail order when I needed one and they all had the same price of $169.98...of course I wound up getting it from Cycle Sport in Springfield, just because I like them and they have given me good deals before....I've also gotten some things cheaper at Colemans, but usually only if its a common piece and they have alot in stock...oh to live near a salvage yard.....enjoy Les From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 17:43:23 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA17401 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:43:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA02370 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:43:20 -0400 (EDT) From: STARAI@XXXXXX Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com (imo29.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.73]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA10987 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:43:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from STARAI@XXXXXX (7999) by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCWTa04195 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:43:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:43:02 EDT Subject: REMOVE FROM LIST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 86 Pls remove me from the list. Due to an accident, I will be out of commission for a while. Thanks. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 18:06:17 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17834 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:06:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02732 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (209-122-229-251.s632.tnt6.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.229.251]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA11545 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA10801 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:05:56 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma010799; Thu, 20 May 99 18:05:28 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990520180236.00b26960@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:05:49 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Extreme Machines Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So nothing was on last night and I watched TLC or Discovery and saw Extreme Machines (for the 10th time) and I started thinking about the last bike they show - a funky "Apache" with futuristic styling and a Harley v-twin. It looks like a sport bike, but it rides very weird - agressive style handlebars and cruising pegs! The guy looked like a crash test dummy on it. And the announcer, in a very dramatic voice, said "The Apache is capable of attaining speeds as high as one hundred and twenty miles per hour." I think cr125s do 120 don't they? hehe. I do dig watching the Isle of Man segment though. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 18:37:18 1999 Return-Path: zbig@XXXXXX Received: from suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (zbig@XXXXXX [149.52.55.130]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA18340 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:37:16 -0400 (EDT) From: zbig@XXXXXX Received: (from zbig@localhost) by suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id SAA01812; Thu, 20 May 1999 18:37:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199905202237.SAA01812@suntan.zbnet.hrn.ascend.com> Subject: Re: Laptops,digital cameras, and magnetic tank bags. To: HolmesM@XXXXXX (Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:37:09 -0400 (EDT) Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: from "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" at May 20, 99 10:11:08 am Reply-To: zbig@XXXXXX (Zbigniew J. Tyrlik) X-Phone: (703)-689-6975 X-Organization: Organized ? Just kidding.. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Content-Type: text > > << Just wondering if anyone has carried there laptop and > digital cameras around in there magnetic tank bags and if you > did did you have any problems. I've actually stuck my laptop in > my Marsee tank bag overnight but haven't actually taken it out > on the road yet. >> > I got myself a Targus backpack for laptop - works on the bike and everywhere else. Also, hard bags are good for such cargo... _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 CBR1100XX - BBird kleks@XXXXXX Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 19:50:00 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA19606 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:49:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA03829 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:49:57 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo28.mx.aol.com (imo28.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.72]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA13876 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (8008) by imo28.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vCJFa29725 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:49:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3a27c7cf.2475f987@aol.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:49:27 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 In a message dated 5/20/99 2:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, TZell@XXXXXX writes: << went tits up >> excuse me? what does that mean? marcy From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 20:08:40 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA19940 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 20:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA04006 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 20:08:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web307.yahoomail.com (web307.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.189]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA14120 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 20:08:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990521000840.20096.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Received: from [207.172.40.210] by web307.yahoomail.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 17:08:40 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:08:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Back before Politicaly Correct became so popular with the liberal pukes (yes I'm semi-conservative ;-)) it is/was a very common saying meaning that the equipment/machinery died...I have no idea on the history or origin of this phrase, just relaying what is meant by it.... CT --- JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > In a message dated 5/20/99 2:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > TZell@XXXXXX writes: > > << went tits up >> > > excuse me? > what does that mean? > > marcy > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 21:04:36 1999 Return-Path: ges6@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA20876 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vfr750f (216-164-239-64.s572.tnt9.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [216.164.239.64]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA27418 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 May 99 21:00:00 EDT From: Greg Sachs Sender: Greg Sachs Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/20/99 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 4.6.6, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just thought I'd drop a line to intro myself, I just graduated from college(case western), and am living in Mclean, VA while I figure out what I want to do next, but I brought my bike(91 VFR) home with me and have a new rear tire(d207) that needs to be scuffed in and then used up. (new tire bought from coleman, 126 on the tire, very competitive, 55 on the mount/balance, which is ridiculous, but I needed it to pass inspection. And 6k from a 207 rear is pretty good, eh?) Anyway, curious about people getting together to ride, in Cleveland the HSTA guys got together every week for breakfast and a ride, anything similar in the dc area? Oh, hey Dan Brown, we've met before... thanks, greg -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Sachs 91 VFR750F Systems Engineer ges6@XXXXXX SAM gsachs@XXXXXX 5/20/99 HSTA/AMA 9:00:00 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 22:48:38 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22587 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:48:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA05494 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:48:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA16250 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:48:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ursulina (207-172-121-20.s20.tnt15.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.121.20]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA17671; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <026001bea34d$22b74d00$7621accf@ursulina> From: "Ursulina Viteri" To: "DC Cycles" , Subject: Tire wear questions Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:45:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Howdy, I recently took a good look at my front and rear tire and noticed lots of little cracks along the side walls. There still plenty of tread left and my "chicken strips" are plenty wide so I'm wearing them out evenly. The front tire (IRC RW 010F) has about 6K miles on it and was installed last spring/summer. The rear tire (Dunlop K627) has almost 10K miles and came new with the bike when it was purchased Oct 97. Neither tire feels hard to the touch nor have I noticed a change in performance. Does it sound like it's time for a new set of tires? What would be a good indicator (other than baldness) that tires need to be replaced? - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 22:56:55 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA22697 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA05569 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web214.mail.yahoo.com (web214.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.114]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA16348 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990521025518.14110.rocketmail@web214.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.117.54.217] by web214.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:55:18 PDT Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:55:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Ray Subject: Re: Tire wear questions To: Ursulina Viteri , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Replace them suckers now. Those little cracks (sometimes called dryrot, sometimes called ozone cracks) are God's way of saying you need new tires. And by the way, there is something seriously wrong with wearing out the sidewalls before you wear out the threads! I suggest you ride a minimum of 125 miles every day after work, try going home by way of West Virginia. To prevent these cracks keep the tires out of direct sunlight as much as possible, and far away from electric motors. Armor-All (sidewall only, not the tread; I know people who armor-all the tread and they deserve what they get) helps too. And finally, the proper pronounciation of the word is "Tahr", like that-there road-pavin' stuff, but drawn out. Ray-Bob _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 20 23:36:24 1999 Return-Path: kamuelle@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA23471 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:36:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kamuelle (207-172-74-38.s38.tnt2.man.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.74.38]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id XAA02754 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 23:36:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990520234248.00948640@mail.vt.edu> X-Sender: kamuelle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 23:42:48 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Karl Mueller Subject: Re: Legal bikes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On that law4hogs page, it mentions that the rear view mirrior is required for VA, and required on both sides for MD, does that mean that in VA you can have only one? (I ask this because i keep breaking the left one.. damn things should be able to survive a crash :) and also i've been running w/o any rearviews for a while and waved to a VA state trooper on his motorcycle.. he waved back). Personally i think the rearview is good only for seeing little blue flashing lights behind you Cheers! Karl From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 00:03:17 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA23936 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:03:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA06944 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from floyd.qis.net (floyd.qis.net [209.150.96.22]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA17169 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from qis.net (pm4-balt-196.qis.net [209.150.97.196]) by floyd.qis.net (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA17499; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3744DBF7.5F3C1FA5@qis.net> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:07:19 -0400 From: Holmes family Reply-To: holmzrus@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ursulina Viteri CC: DC Cycles , raymondlucas@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Tire wear questions References: <026001bea34d$22b74d00$7621accf@ursulina> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds like they are dry-rotting somewhat. At least when I sold Goodyear passenger tires, that's what it meant. I'd say starting pricing new ones. Mitch Holmes 1986 Honda Magna VF700C Ursulina Viteri wrote: > > Howdy, > > I recently took a good look at my front and rear tire and noticed lots of > little > cracks along the side walls. There still plenty of tread left and my > "chicken strips" are plenty wide so I'm wearing them out evenly. The front > tire (IRC RW 010F) has about 6K miles on it and was installed last > spring/summer. The rear tire (Dunlop K627) has almost 10K miles and came > new with the bike when it was purchased Oct 97. Neither tire feels hard to > the touch nor have I noticed a change in performance. > > Does it sound like it's time for a new set of tires? What would be a good > indicator (other than baldness) that tires need to be replaced? > > - - Ursulina > 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 00:06:46 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24047 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:06:45 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLNCL7; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:06:45 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM7N6V5; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:06:47 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256778.00169510 ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:06:39 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256778.00161D57.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:04:17 -0400 Subject: Steering Dampers Any suggestions on the above mentioned part. I think I want to mount one on my YZF1000R. I experienced a vicious tank slapper years ago & these dampers help. The YZF has not displayed any head shakes to speak of, but I like the way the dampers look....very kewl. Thanks, DJ & "STORM" From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 00:12:56 1999 Return-Path: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA24135 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (539) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2URJa02627 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 00:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4a8d4e4c.247636de@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 00:11:10 EDT Subject: oops - helmet casualty-another one (sort of) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 10 Today, whilst getting ready to go to work, I dropped my helmet in the garage, which landed face first, in some coarse sandy-dirt stuff and scratched the hell out of my fancy-pants reflective-matches-the-helmet-silver $60 face shield.....Pissed me off to no end. When I got to work, a regular customer and friend had a dumbfounded look on his face. Evidentally, he had bought 500 shares of a certain company at $10 a share, right before they went public. (Not sure how that was done, but it was...) Anywho, when it went public, it jumped to $180 a share. I hate him. A lot. -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 05:26:48 1999 Return-Path: F4Rider@XXXXXX Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (viper.bcbsblue.com [208.146.143.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA00823 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from viper.bcbsblue.com (root@localhost) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id FAA27135 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com ([199.97.109.162]) by viper.bcbsblue.com with ESMTP id FAA27131 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:26:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com (root@localhost) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with ESMTP id FAA16861 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bc41466 ([172.16.4.164]) by nca-fw1.bcbsnca.com with SMTP id FAA16857 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990521052350.012b5a80@ns2.pgcc.net> X-Sender: brad@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 05:23:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Brad Subject: MD riders to Summit this Sat? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Subject says it all. If you're heading up Saturday morning and want to hook up, let me know. Bowie / Upper Marlboro areas are preferred for meeting. Brad From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 07:11:35 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA02494 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:11:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA11195 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA21754 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id EAA22908 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 21 May 1999 04:11:25 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 21 May 1999 04:11:25 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "Collin T. Fagan" , JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 04:11:23 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > << went tits up >> > > excuse me? > what does that mean? > > marcy > > Just to maintain some perspective here... Most of us on this list are mammals, and all mammals have 'em Some are just larger than others... Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 08:06:15 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03431 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:06:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 21 May 1999 05:06:07 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: hauling help.. Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 05:06:04 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) I seem to be in a bind.. again. Because UPS delivery guys are morons, I seem to have a frame and swingarm sitting in a box at the UPS station... and no vehicle with which to transport them (I ALSO have another box of something or another sitting at FedEx that needs to be picked up). I was wondering/hoping someone local to the Laurel region (seeing as that's where both packages are) could help me out either tonight before 5pm, or on Monday before the places close (UPS 7pm, FedEx 8pm) with a truck, van, station wagon, car with big trunk, etc... Beer or food.... or a DC Cycles Racing T-shirt, can be used as bribe.. and I'll pay for the gas it takes aswell... Available? Drop me an e-mail before 3pm, call me at work (410.962.3898), call me at home (301.445.4451) - I really don't want this stuff to be shipped back, and I've got them holding onto it for as long as possible.. Thanks, Brian (who really needs to just buy himself a car/truck/van/RV/bus/semi/etc....) From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 08:29:39 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03835 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:29:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A1A7B3E01B0; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:29:27 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990521080515.01345150@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:13:51 -0400 To: Kirk Roy , DC-Cycles Mailing List From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Legal bikes In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 04:32 PM 5/20/99 , Kirk Roy wrote: >For a state by state breakdown of necessary motorcycle equipment check >out: http://www.law4hogs.com/laws > >On both the MD and VA pages they list that motorcycles don't need turn >signals. I'm trying to track down whether or not that's correct for MD. If >they're not required I'm pulling them off the dirt bike since I use hand >signals on the short street runs on that anyway... Does anyone know if >that's correct for VA? They also list that a speedo/odo aren't required in >VA... I wonder if that one's true (it would mean less trouble to make a >dirt bike street legal). Here's the Virginia law available at http://leg1.state.va.us/ -- It looks like speedometers are required, but the text reads more like the concern is having an an accurate speedometer, not that it's just an equipment requirement. =20 I think all drivers are allowed to use only hand signals (if they're visible), but it's not real clear. *********************************************** =A7 46.2-1080=20 Speedometer in good working order=20 It shall be unlawful for any person to possess with intent to sell or offer for sale, either separately or as a part of the equipment of a motor vehicle, or to use or have as a part of the equipment of a motor vehicle, or to use or have as equipment on a motor vehicle operated on a highway any speedometer which is not in good working order.=20 ********************************************** =A7 46.2-1038=20 When turn signals required; exceptions=20 A. Any motor vehicle, trailer, or semitrailer which is so constructed or carries a load in such a manner as to prevent a hand and arm signal required in =A746.2-849 from being visible both to the front and rear of suc= h motor vehicle, trailer, or semitrailer or any vehicle the driver of which is incapable of giving the required hand and arm signals, shall be equipped with electrical turn signals which meet the requirements of this title and are of a type that has been approved by the Superintendent. A tractor truck, however, need not be equipped with electrical turn signals on the rear if it is equipped with double faced signal lights mounted on the front fenders or on the sides near the front of the vehicle clearly visible to the rear.=20 B. It shall be unlawful for any person to drive on any highway a motor vehicle registered in the Commonwealth and manufactured or assembled after January 1, 1955, unless such vehicle is equipped with such turn signals on both front and rear.=20 C. Any such turn signal may be used in lieu of the hand and arm signal required by =A746.2-849.=20 D. Subsections A and B of this section shall not apply to any motorcycle. The provisions of this section shall not apply to motor vehicles, trailers, or semitrailers used for agricultural or horticultural purposes and exempted from registration under Article 6 (=A746.2-662 et seq.) of Chapter = 6 of this title.=20 =A7 46.2-1039=20 Requirements of turn signals; regulations=20 Every turn signal used to give a signal of intention to turn a vehicle shall be so constructed and so installed as to give a signal plainly visible in clear weather and under normal traffic conditions from a distance of at least 100 feet to the rear and 100 feet to the front of the vehicle. No front turn signal, however, shall be required on vehicles manufactured before January 1, 1943.=20 The Superintendent may promulgate regulations not inconsistent with this section and =A746.2-1038 governing the construction, location, and operation of turn signals and the color of lights which may be used in any such signal device. Nothing contained herein, however, shall prohibit the requiring of turn signals on any vehicle whose driver is prevented by any reason from giving the hand and arm signal required in =A746.2-849.=20 ***************************************************** HAND SIGNALS =A7 46.2-848=20 Signals required on backing, stopping, or turning=20 Every driver who intends to back, stop, turn, or partly turn from a direct line shall first see that such movement can be made safely and, whenever the operation of any other vehicle may be affected by such movement, shall give the signals required in this article, plainly visible to the driver of such other vehicle, of his intention to make such movement.=20 =A7 46.2-849=20 How signals given=20 A. Signals required by =A746.2-848 shall be given by means of the hand and arm or by some mechanical or electrical device approved by the Superintendent, in the manner specified in this section. Whenever the signal is given by means of the hand and arm, the driver shall indicate his intention to start, stop, turn, or partly turn by extending the hand and arm beyond the left side of the vehicle in the manner following:=20 1. For left turn or to pull to the left, the arm shall be extended in a horizontal position straight from and level with the shoulder;=20 2. For right turn or to pull to the right, the arm shall be extended upward;= =20 3. For slowing down or stopping, the arm shall be extended downward.=20 B. Wherever the lawful speed is more than 35 miles per hour, such signals shall be given continuously for a distance of at least 100 feet, and in all other cases at least fifty feet, before slowing down, stopping, turning, or partly turning.=20 C. A person riding a bicycle or moped shall signal his intention to stop, or turn. Such signals, however, need not be given continuously if both hands are needed in the control or operation of the bicycle or moped.=20 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 08:29:46 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03842 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A1B0B3E01B0; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:29:36 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990521081804.01352760@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:18:48 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Legal bikes In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990520234248.00948640@mail.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:42 PM 5/20/99 , Karl Mueller wrote: > Personally i think the rearview is good only >for seeing little blue flashing lights behind you As a commuter, I use the rear views to see when the next a**hole in an SUV is forcing his way through traffic! Chris Norloff Falls Church, Virginia 1989 BMW K100LT, 1982 Honda CB750F, 1981 Honda CB750F with Jupiter sidecar From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 08:29:46 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA03843 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA11846 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA22406 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-5.04) id A1ABB3E01B0; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:29:31 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990521081623.01351560@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:17:08 -0400 To: "Collin T. Fagan" , JinnSinn@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty In-Reply-To: <19990521000840.20096.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Commonly called "Tango Uniform" in the Navy, and that's no Bravo Sierra! Chris Norloff At 08:08 PM 5/20/99 , Collin T. Fagan wrote: >Back before Politicaly Correct became so popular with the liberal pukes >(yes I'm semi-conservative ;-)) it is/was a very common saying meaning >that the equipment/machinery died...I have no idea on the history or >origin of this phrase, just relaying what is meant by it.... > >CT > >--- JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: >> In a message dated 5/20/99 2:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> TZell@XXXXXX writes: >> >> << went tits up >> >> >> excuse me? >> what does that mean? >> >> marcy >> >> > >=== >Collin T. Fagan >DC-Cycles Racing >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ >Proudly sponsored by: >Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) >Avon Racing Tyres >_____________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 08:35:56 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04050 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:35:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc1-s21.wizard.net [206.161.15.51]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA22791 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:36:01 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: The next question... Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:40:40 -0400 Message-ID: <000501bea387$221eaa20$330fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Thanks to everyone for the great info on camping gear.. I'm in Internet research mode now, and will post a follow-up after the rally to say how everything worked out! :-) And, now for the next rally related question. We're going to based out of Cass, WV. Our plan is to have one long ride (~300 miles or so), and two shorter rides. I've used Dale Coyner's book to map out a nice 300 mile route which takes in some sights, has some fun sounding roads, etc. It heads from Cass towards Summersville Lake, and also goes over the New River Gorge Bridge. For one of the shorter rides I'm thinking of going more "NW" from Cass and eventually winding up at Seneca Rocks for lunch. Haven't figured out where to go for the 3rd ride. So, I'm looking for suggestions for 'don't miss' roads, attractions, whatever in WV within maybe 100-150 miles of Cass, Seneca Rocks, that general area. I know about Rte 250, 33 and 55. Anyone been on 33 west of Seneca Rocks? Any others I should try to work in? Or, just as important, any to avoid? Thanks! Anita PS - For those of you heading to Summit Point via Rte 7 tomorrow morning.. don't forget to wave at the MSF class at NOVA in Sterling! I'll be out there once again trying to teach 24 people how to ride (with the assistance of 2 experienced instructors, of course!). From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 08:47:19 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04465 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:47:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id IAA28377; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:46:08 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id IAA18663; Fri, 21 May 1999 08:46:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:46:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty In-Reply-To: <19990521000840.20096.rocketmail@web307.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My guess would be that it has something to do with people being buried lying on their backs. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 20 May 1999, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > Back before Politicaly Correct became so popular with the liberal pukes > (yes I'm semi-conservative ;-)) it is/was a very common saying meaning > that the equipment/machinery died...I have no idea on the history or > origin of this phrase, just relaying what is meant by it.... > > CT > > --- JinnSinn@XXXXXX wrote: > > In a message dated 5/20/99 2:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > TZell@XXXXXX writes: > > > > << went tits up >> > > > > excuse me? > > what does that mean? > > > > marcy > > > > > > === > Collin T. Fagan > DC-Cycles Racing > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ > Proudly sponsored by: > Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) > Avon Racing Tyres > _____________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 09:13:50 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA05034 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id GAA09132 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 21 May 1999 06:13:38 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 21 May 1999 06:13:38 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX>, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: The next question... Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 06:13:33 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >and also goes over the New River Gorge Bridge Check out the new old bridge - they recently (within the past few years) rebuild the original trestle bridge at the base of the gorge - it's a great ride down and back up with MUCH better scenery than the high bridge. One note - 4 miles of the road at the bottom of the gorge is one-way north to south, so if you want to drive over the old bridge you have to start from the side across the river from Fayetteville, Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 09:55:34 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA05713 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 09:55:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 09:53:36 EDT Message-Id: <199905210953.AA2284126494@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: The next question... X-Mailer: Mike's suggestion sounds like a great one. I didn't get a chance to do the low bridge, but riding across the high bridge on a motorcycle (or anything else, for that matter) is pretty anticlimactic. High jersey walls on both sides kill the view, you barely know you are on a bridge at all. There is a little visitor's center on the South side (of the big bridge) that has a decent view of the bridge and gorge. And a nice little shop/restaurant that has good ice cream nearby. :) Dale ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Jordan, Michael" Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 06:13:33 -0700 >>and also goes over the New River Gorge Bridge Check out the new old bridge - they recently (within the past few years) rebuild the original trestle bridge at the base of the gorge - it's a great ride down and back up with MUCH better scenery than the high bridge. -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 10:02:13 1999 Return-Path: nomad98@XXXXXX Received: from web130.yahoomail.com (web130.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA05888 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990521140428.27719.rocketmail@web130.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.108.10.1] by web130.yahoomail.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 07:04:28 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:04:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Nomad Subject: Re: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their Parts? To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Spark Plugs: Coleman quoted me $9.95 per NGK plug x 4 plugs + VA tax= $41.59 I told them that seemed rather high and the parts guy's challenged me to get them elsewhere cheaper. Mail order $5.75 per NGK plug x 4 plugs + no tax + shipping $4.00= $27 I got them in 3 days and they appreciated my business! Herb '94 Magna _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 10:23:39 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06329 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA13527 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24994 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 153 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:23:17 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990521102100.01af35b0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:21:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:11 AM 5/21/99 , Jordan, Michael wrote: >> << went tits up >> >> >> excuse me? >> what does that mean? >> >> marcy >> >> >Just to maintain some perspective here... > >Most of us on this list are mammals, and all mammals have 'em > >Some are just larger than others... Another version heard from mid-west born co-workers is 'paws up' ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 10:42:13 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06683 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:42:11 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA28841; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:43:10 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma028540; Fri, 21 May 99 10:42:44 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FC300HC47M0RQ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256778.0050A9FD ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:41:03 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:32:17 -0400 Subject: Re: The next question... To: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256778.00507B78.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Anita, I've been to Summersville Lake, Seneca Rocks, and the New River Gorge areas many times as a rock climber. Never as a motorcyclist, but I think I can help. In Seneca Rocks, you'll want to eat lunch at the little restaurant on the balcony above the General Store. They have good food and friendly service. Check out the visitor center just north of town on rte 55 and watch the climbers on the rocks above. Route 33 west of Seneca Rocks is nothing to look forward to for twisty motorcycling as I recall. It's a main route toward Elkins I believe, and not that twisty. It's been a while since I've driven it though. Normally, east-west routes in that area are very twisty but I don't recall 33 being that way. If you decide to check out nearby Spruce Knob (WV's high point), remember that nearly the whole road up to the summit is unpaved and potholed. Otherwise, it's a good side trip. New River Gorge - Good food in Fayetteville at the tex-mex restaurant next to the courthouse or the pizza place down the road a bit. Check out the black bean dip at the tex-mex place. Check out the visitor center on the north side of the gorge and drive around on some of the back roads paralleling the river. You can watch more climbers at the area just under the bridge if you're still curious. Camping supplies are at Blue Ridge Outdoors next to the courthouse. Summersville Lake - bring swimsuit if you feel like it. Very picturesque lake, but I don't know much about it besides the rock climbing. If you park just after the bridge over the lake, you can hike down to the water, but it's a bit of a walk. There might be better places to access it from. Chris ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 10:57:04 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06955 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id HAA28886 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Fri, 21 May 1999 07:56:51 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Fri, 21 May 1999 07:56:51 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: horkster@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: The next question... Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:56:41 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >I didn't get a chance to do the low bridge, but riding across >the high bridge on a motorcycle (or anything else, for that >matter) >is pretty anticlimactic. High jersey walls on both sides kill >the view, you barely know you are on a bridge at all. Pretty much my feelings - unless you go in October for Bridge Day, you're just on another divided highway. The old road up and down, however, is a blast with many good stopping points for sightseeing. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 11:04:44 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc012.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC012.army.mil [134.11.235.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07069 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:04:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dadc012.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:57:28 -0400 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46FCB010E@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., SAM" To: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: RE: The next question... Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:57:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Uh yeah 33 is pretty twisty just about all the way to Elkins. Glenn >climbers on the rocks above. Route 33 west of Seneca Rocks is nothing to >look forward to for twisty motorcycling as I recall. It's a main route >toward Elkins I believe, and not that twisty. It's been a while since I've >driven it though. Normally, east-west routes in that area are very twisty >but I don't recall 33 being that way. If you decide to check out nearby From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 11:07:00 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07168 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:06:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA07230; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:07:06 -0400 Message-Id: <199905211507.LAA07230@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:03:30 -0400 Subject: Re: The next question... Priority: normal In-reply-to: <85256778.00507B78.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) On 21 May 99, at 10:32, christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > In Seneca Rocks, you'll want to eat lunch at the little restaurant on the > balcony above the General Store. They have good food and friendly service. That was my plan! :-) We stopped there for lunch during a ride last summer and it was pretty cool. > If you decide to check out nearby Spruce Knob (WV's high point), > remember that nearly the whole road up to the summit is unpaved > and potholed. Otherwise, it's a good side trip. I drove up to the top of Spruce Knob in my truck a few years ago. Boy, was that one bumpy road. Miles and miles, and you really couldn't go very fast. Plus once we got all the way to the top it was very foggy and we couldn't see anything! I think I'll avoid that on my bike! :-) Thanks for the recommendations on places to eat.. that will definitely help with the ride planning! Anita From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 11:09:25 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07188 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14119 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:09:21 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA26267 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA15460; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:10:08 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma015120; Fri, 21 May 99 11:09:50 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FC300LB68TLY0@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:11:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256778.00530EB7 ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:07:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:03:21 -0400 Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty To: Dan Brown Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256778.0052DC1E.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Actually Dan, I have spoke extensively with Shoei reps about this. The issue involved with replacing helmets is whether or not the styrofoam in the helmet has been compacted. In other words, if the helmet was dropped or banged, but there was no head inside to dent or compress the foam, the helmet is "deemed" by Shoei to be ok, assuming that the outer shell is only scraped, not cracked. So, would *I* still use it? Maybe, maybe not ... but Shoei reps have told me in person that it is not an issue. Just another data point, chris To: Mike Troutman cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Dan Brown Date: 05/20/99 02:52:28 PM GMT Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty I did read your whole post and still sent my message. Yours is a casual attitude towards safety and liability that I just can't agree with. Dump the helmet. The cost and risk isn't worth it, especially in this world where you can get sued for looking at someone crosseyed. On Thu, 20 May 1999, Mike Troutman wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:46:38 -0400 > From: Mike Troutman > To: Dan Brown > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: oops - helmet casualty > > At 10:39 AM 5/20/99 , Dan Brown wrote: > >Unless you're just keeping it for show, don't bother with the sandpaper. > >Replace it. You head is worth being SURE that the helmet's intergrity > >is still intact. If its hit the ground, who knows. > > > >Even if this is your passenger helmet... would you be willing to bet > >someone else's life on whether or not that helmet is good? > > Dan, obviously you didn't read my whole post. I know that the helmet could > have internal problems, but it isn't likely given the situation, so don't > bother with the sermons. It is a passenger helmet, it is used very > infrequently, so yes I am willing to take that chance given all of the odds > involved. > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > > Dan Brown brown@XXXXXX ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 11:20:41 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA07504 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:20:39 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id LAA22942; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:21:40 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma022491; Fri, 21 May 99 11:20:47 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FC30007B9DDH3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:22:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256778.0054251F ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:19:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:11:31 -0400 Subject: RE: Oil Filters To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Cc: "'dc'" Message-id: <85256778.0053CC03.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Nope. I can drain the oil and change the filter with ALL plastic on the bike. I do have to use a socket extension to loosen the filter, but it is really not bad. --chris To: 'dc' cc: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" Date: 05/20/99 07:01:55 PM GMT Subject: RE: Oil Filters > -----Original Message----- > Unfortunately, on > my RF, I'd have to drop side body panels to use it. I bought > the $uzuki > filter wrencj and use a ratchet with extension. You don't have to remove the plastic to drain the oil? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 11:32:47 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07713 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA14425 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:32:44 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo11.mx.aol.com (imo11.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.1]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA26928 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:32:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (325) by imo11.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oCGDa03096; Fri, 21 May 1999 11:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:31:05 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 ok - but wouldn't that (and tits up) mean something is on its back??? now where's the original post when I need it..... marcy In a message dated 5/21/99 10:31:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << Another version heard from mid-west born co-workers is 'paws up' >> From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 12:41:52 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09142 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:41:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:41:06 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:40:59 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:38:15 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, nomad98@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Does Coleman Powersport gold plate their Parts? -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Why I always put a few plugs on my order when I get stuff from Kirk. Regular plugs: $2.40. Hell, v-types are only $6.10. Makes me wonder how those thieves stay in business. I'd tell 'em to kiss my furry butt. Joe >>> Nomad - 5/21/99 10:04 AM >>> Spark Plugs: Coleman quoted me $9.95 per NGK plug x 4 plugs + VA tax= $41.59 I told them that seemed rather high and the parts guy's challenged me to get them elsewhere cheaper. Mail order $5.75 per NGK plug x 4 plugs + no tax + shipping $4.00= $27 I got them in 3 days and they appreciated my business! Herb '94 Magna _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 12:43:29 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09211 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15539 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:43:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA29108 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:43:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:43:06 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:43:01 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:40:04 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Another version heard from mid-west born co-workers is 'paws up' minnesota version: "Ass up." Joe From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 12:48:04 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09319 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:48:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15576 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:48:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29298 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:47:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA20845 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX (8055) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dUASa01450; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <134bc8de.2476e7cb@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:46:03 EDT Subject: (Non-Moto) Star Trek Humour To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 I know it's non-moto, but it's pretty funny. This site has a list of the responses made by Star Trek characters to the "Why did the chicken cross the road" joke. http://www.math.columbia.edu/~matzinno/trek/humor/chicken -Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 13:35:48 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10273 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:35:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA16230 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA00772 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay01.mcit.com (alpha.mcit.com [199.249.19.243]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21418 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #37787) with ESMTP id <0FC300850FCOUN@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:31:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id RAA17890; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:31:01 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990521173144.IGVV19270@toddnt>; Fri, 21 May 1999 12:31:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:29:02 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: (Non-Moto) Star Trek Humour In-reply-to: <134bc8de.2476e7cb@aol.com> To: Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX Message-id: <000301bea3af$6b2629a0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal > I know it's non-moto, but it's pretty funny. This site has a list of the > responses made by Star Trek characters to the "Why did the > chicken cross the > road" joke. > > http://www.math.columbia.edu/~matzinno/trek/humor/chicken > > -Sean Jordan Amazing. I knew the voices/inflections and personality of each character listed.... I am old! Todd - closet trekkie? =:O From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 13:53:51 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10568 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA16501 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:53:48 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01397 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:53:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (8069) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKGCa02576 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:53:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:53:04 EDT Subject: Re: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty -Reply To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 hmm speaking as a Minnesotan born and bred I have to say I've never heard that one ... but there's always "bass ackwards" ;D Marcy In a message dated 5/21/99 12:50:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, NAGYJ@XXXXXX writes: << minnesota version: "Ass up." Joe >> From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 14:13:13 1999 Return-Path: 900rrmofo@XXXXXX Received: from mailcity.com (fes-qout.whowhere.com [209.1.236.7]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10957 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:13:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by mailcity.com; Fri May 21 11:12:33 1999 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , christopher.meier@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:12:33 -0700 From: "C J" <900rrmofo@XXXXXX> Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "'dc'" X-Sent-Mail: off X-Mailer: MailCity Service Subject: RE: Oil Filters X-Sender-Ip: 140.188.64.152 Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Parts.....Paarrttsss...for.....FREeeeeeee.... I have some leftover "NEW" parts from the TL 2- plugs...NGK cr9ek 1- oil filter Used Original parts.....taken off when bike was new 1- windscreen 2- stock exhaust cans misc. reflectors ALL FREE TO GOOD HOME, HELL EVEN A BAD HOME... anybody want them ?? --- Craig 99 RR Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 14:35:38 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11425 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:35:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id OAA22969; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:35:33 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA08254; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:35:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Closed communities Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We've all probably heard of communities that don't allow motorcycles but this is a whole different kettle of fish http://cnn.com/US/9905/21/no.lawyers.allowed/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 15:45:28 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA12717 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:45:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA17899 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA06718 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:45:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from defcon (207-172-41-22.s22.tnt10.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.41.22]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22414 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 15:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <01c901bea366$81e039e0$5abbaccf@defcon> From: "LES" To: References: <4.1.19990521081623.01351560@mail.toward.com> Subject: Re: Re[2]: oops - helmet casualty Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:47:05 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Commonly called "Tango Uniform" in the Navy, and that's no Bravo Sierra! Chris Norloff Tits-up goes back to when sailors where actually allowed to get stumbling drunk and pass out without fear of punishment....anyway if you passed out and were out of commision you were tits up..or if you were laying on your back and unable to work......Not that i've ever been in that position....enjoy Les... Go Navy...Hey Collin when is the CG Academy gonna get a football team... From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 19:26:41 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16821 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:26:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA20567 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:26:37 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA14607 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26293 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:26:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX (316) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id dLSPa03188; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:24:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <994198f2.24774536@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:24:38 EDT Subject: Re: (Non-Moto) Star Trek Humour To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, Eternity23@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mike@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 In a message dated 5/21/1999 1:42:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: << > I know it's non-moto, but it's pretty funny. This site has a list of the > responses made by Star Trek characters to the "Why did the > chicken cross the > road" joke. > > http://www.math.columbia.edu/~matzinno/trek/humor/chicken > > -Sean Jordan Amazing. I knew the voices/inflections and personality of each character listed.... I am old! Todd - closet trekkie? =:O >> Gotcha beat. I knew 85% of the episodes where the actual quote came from. Minus the use of the word chicken. :-) Plus the voice/inflections. Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 19:34:40 1999 Return-Path: okan1262@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA16995 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:34:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-38-93.s93.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com (207-172-38-93.s93.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.38.93]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA03146 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:35:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: smtp2.erols.com: 207-172-38-93.s93.tnt8.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.38.93] didn't use HELO protocol Message-ID: <3745EEDF.305B@erols.com> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:40:15 -0400 From: Okan Seremetoglu Reply-To: okan1262@XXXXXX Organization: The American University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-DH397 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: BMW M3 FOR SALE (non-moto) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Friends; I have sold my CBR last week and this week I am selling my car. Maybe someone on the list is shopping for a new car, so here it is. 1997 BMW M3, Silver exterior, Gray interior, 5-speed, 27K miles, Luxury package, Fully loaded, factory spolier, Exellent condition, I am the first owner and never been hit or scratched, always garage kept, polished every 6 months, beatiful machine, $36,000. I am off the list so call me directly or e-mail me directly. If you have friends that are shopping for the same car tell them about it. Beleive me this is a great car, at a great price, and from an owner that takes care of it like nobody. Phone Numbers: 703-526-0022 and 703-593-5592 Okan From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 19:47:47 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17271 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net [208.220.25.42] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A02CA02C012C; Fri, 21 May 1999 19:45:48 EDT Message-ID: <3745F08B.24E33A3C@tidalwave.net> Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 19:47:23 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Goin' for a little ride. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There's a group of Ironbutt Association folks who are getting together tomorrow evening for steak dinner in Kansas City, MO. KC is about 1100 miles from DC (uhh, that's Dale City, you know...:) I've never done back to back 1000 mile days before. The IBA calls it this kind of ride a SaddleSore 2000. I call it going out for dinner. :) Wish me luck! Horkster (on the road again....) PS: Just got the BGSLYR plate transferred over to the new Connie, so we all KNEW I'd just have to go for a little ride anyway, right? -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 20:05:22 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA17605 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 20:05:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-228-138.s11.as7.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.228.138]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id UAA03177 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 20:05:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000f01bea3e6$f92af460$8ae4accf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: References: <994198f2.24774536@aol.com> Subject: Re: (Non-Moto) Star Trek Humour Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:06:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I think I am right up there with Scooter on this... and it's TREKKER not Trekie. :) Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; ; ; Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 7:24 PM Subject: Re: (Non-Moto) Star Trek Humour > In a message dated 5/21/1999 1:42:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: > > << > I know it's non-moto, but it's pretty funny. This site has a list of the > > responses made by Star Trek characters to the "Why did the > > chicken cross the > > road" joke. > > > > http://www.math.columbia.edu/~matzinno/trek/humor/chicken > > > > -Sean Jordan > > Amazing. I knew the voices/inflections and personality of each character > listed.... I am old! > > Todd - closet trekkie? =:O > >> > > Gotcha beat. I knew 85% of the episodes where the actual quote came from. > Minus the use of the word chicken. :-) Plus the voice/inflections. > > Scooter From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 22:21:34 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA19855 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA22026 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:21:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA18302 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:21:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA27712 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust024.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.24]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA19292 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:22:20 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990521221950.006ad048@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:19:50 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Horkster's on his way to KC. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Horkster lifted off on Bgslyr II for a weekend dinner ride. Departure time was 8:55PM EDT. Return must be before that time Sunday night for completion of 2 consecutive 1000 mile days (SS2K). Destination is a steak dinner in KC. At least this time he'll get to eat. Leon. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 21 22:27:17 1999 Return-Path: brn626@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA20067 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brn626 (207-172-77-219.s28.as4.lee.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.77.219]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA18483 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 22:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01bea3fb$044804a0$db4daccf@brn626> From: "Brian N" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Summit on Sunday Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 22:30:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Is anyone planning on going to Summit Point on Sunday.? Brian N 96 Yamaha FZR600 From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 00:00:37 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from gecko.troutman.org (209-122-204-254.s635.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.204.254]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA22731 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 00:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA13284; Sat, 22 May 1999 00:00:00 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma013282; Fri, 21 May 99 23:59:35 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990521235948.00a7fef0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 00:00:12 -0400 To: Dale Horstman , DC Cycles From: Mike T Subject: Re: Goin' for a little ride. In-Reply-To: <3745F08B.24E33A3C@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:47 PM 5/21/99 -0400, Dale Horstman wrote: >There's a group of Ironbutt Association folks who are >getting together tomorrow evening for steak dinner in >Kansas City, MO. KC is about 1100 miles from DC (uhh, >that's Dale City, you know...:) I've never done back >to back 1000 mile days before. The IBA calls it this >kind of ride a SaddleSore 2000. I call it going out for >dinner. :) WOW! Now THAT is an iron butt! Have a safe trip. _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 03:34:22 1999 Return-Path: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail3.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.106]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA26932 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 03:34:21 -0400 (EDT) From: djones@XXXXXX Received: from inetmail2.bigyellow.com ([167.241.105.101]) by inetmail3.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPMLNHJS; Sat, 22 May 1999 03:34:26 -0400 Received: from Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com (LYNSMTP1 [167.241.105.221]) by inetmail2.bigyellow.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id KPM732BN; Sat, 22 May 1999 03:34:25 -0400 Received: by Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.1 (385.6 5-6-1997)) id 85256779.002996FD ; Sat, 22 May 1999 03:34:16 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: NIRC To: thunderacelist@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256779.001BB8E2.00@Lynsmtp1.bigyellow.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 01:14:17 -0400 Subject: Product Review Pr of Sidi "Strada's" I think. $200. Vast improvement over my Alpinestar Lead boots. The Sidi offers more protection around heel, ankle, achilles(sp) & shin. Also offers a better fit, (2) pr of socks are not necessary for these boots. This is a sport riders boot. I chose the black & white combo instead of the red, black & white. The black goes better with jeans. Riding Moose Skinz from Chapparel (sp), it's late. Similar to biking pants with added padding in the crotch & but area. Felt nice, keeps the leatther off the skin. Gorilla Motorcycle Alarm. Excellent quality for the price. Around $90 bucks. Offers 2-stage shock & tilt alarm. 120db of (5) seperate alarms to choose from. Installs in less than half an hour. Also got a remote activator. I needed to get this installed before my Myrtle Beach trip. Bikes have gotten stolen during the anual sport bike week. Every little bit helps. DJ From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 05:34:53 1999 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA01368 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 05:34:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-239-7.s7.as1.rkv.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.239.7]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA05439; Sat, 22 May 1999 05:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00c101bea44f$3bb14ec0$16efaccf@default> From: "rdrdr" To: "DC-Cycles" , Subject: Rear Axle achieves freedom Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 05:32:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01BEA414.773ADC80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01BEA414.773ADC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To all who answered, Collin, Erik, Tod, Ernie, Mark (I think I got = everyone but I might of lost someone) thanks. The axle was freed after an operation which began at 1100 hours on = Friday and ended at 1700 hours. It required about 12 oz of WD40 and = hundreds of hammer strokes (is it strokes or hits ?). I soaked WD40 into any opening I could find, hit with the hammer, let = sit for 30 minutes, repeat. To let gravity help the WD40 go in I leaned = the bike at 45 degrees once to the right and once to the left. I even = put ice on the axle ends to cool it off to make help it shrink a bit = (let more WD40 in and maybe release the bond) but still to no avail. I thought it would never release so I called Cycles USA but technicians = too busy to talk to me -the desk guy told me to make an oppointment - = for June 2 ! I called The Motorcycle Shop and the mechanic admitted that at this time = of year he can't take care of it personally but explained that usually = its the spacers that get stuck and he usually heats them with a torch. So, with the little butane torch I heated it and hammered and heated and = hammered (had a fire extinguisher right next to me) and slowly it = started coming out. After some more hammering, more WD40 and hammering = it back in to oil it and then out again a few times, it finally came = out. Problem 1 - the axle thread has been damaged by the hammering and I need = a new one (it looks beyond repair and the guys at Myers (sp) in = Kensington agreed). Problem 2 - I called every shop in the area and 10 more nationwide and = Nobody has it in stock. Problem 3 - Its on back order at Suzuki too ! The part is not = available. I could be stuck for months - but I'm going to Israel next week where = these bikes roam the streets like SUVs in Potomac - I'll get one there = and have the bike all better as soon as I get back. Thanks again to all who helped. 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To all who answered, Collin, Erik, Tod, Ernie, Mark = (I think I=20 got everyone but I might of lost someone) thanks.
 
The axle was freed after an operation which began at = 1100=20 hours on Friday and ended at 1700 hours.  It required about 12 oz = of WD40=20 and hundreds of hammer strokes (is it strokes or hits ?).
I soaked WD40 into any opening I could find, hit = with the=20 hammer, let sit for 30 minutes, repeat.  To let gravity help the = WD40 go in=20 I leaned the bike at 45 degrees once to the right and once to the = left.  I=20 even put ice on the axle ends to cool it off to make help it shrink a = bit (let=20 more WD40 in and maybe release the bond) but still to no = avail.
I thought it would never release so I called Cycles = USA but=20 technicians too busy to talk to me -the desk guy told me to make an = oppointment=20 - for June 2 !
I called The Motorcycle Shop and the mechanic = admitted that at=20 this time of year he can't take care of it personally but explained that = usually=20 its the spacers that get stuck and he usually heats them with a=20 torch.
So, with the little butane torch I heated it and = hammered and=20 heated and hammered (had a fire extinguisher right next to me) and = slowly it=20 started coming out.  After some more hammering, more WD40 and = hammering it=20 back in to oil it and then out again a few times, it finally came=20 out.
 
Problem 1 - the axle thread has been damaged by the = hammering=20 and I need a new one (it looks beyond repair and the guys at Myers (sp) = in=20 Kensington agreed).
 
Problem 2 - I called every shop in the area and 10 = more=20 nationwide and Nobody has it in stock.
 
Problem 3 - Its on back order at Suzuki too !  = The part=20 is not available.
 
I could be stuck for months - but I'm going to = Israel next=20 week where these bikes roam the streets like SUVs in Potomac - I'll get = one=20 there and have the bike all better as soon as I get back.
 
Thanks again to all who helped.
 
Niv
DR650
DC
 
------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01BEA414.773ADC80-- From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 05:38:22 1999 Return-Path: rdrdr@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA01440 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 05:38:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (207-172-239-7.s7.as1.rkv.md.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.239.7]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA06159 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 05:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00c901bea44f$b91538e0$16efaccf@default> From: "rdrdr" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Free Dirt Tires Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 05:36:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C6_01BEA415.0AFA5900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01BEA415.0AFA5900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a pair of dirt tires that came off a friend's CR250 sitting here = with no use: Dunlop Sports K990 80/100-21 - Looks new ! Cheng Shin C775 460-17 - Looks almost new ! Both are free for the taking, in Silver Spring. Just let me know and = you can come and pick them up. Niv DR650 DC ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01BEA415.0AFA5900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a pair of dirt tires that = came off a=20 friend's CR250 sitting here with no use:
 
Dunlop Sports K990 80/100-21 - Looks = new=20 !
 
Cheng Shin C775 460-17 - Looks = almost new=20 !
 
 
Both are free for the taking, in = Silver=20 Spring.  Just let me know and you can come and pick them = up.
 
Niv
DR650
DC
------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01BEA415.0AFA5900-- From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 07:26:57 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org ([206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA03005 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl40.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.182]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 6182400 ; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:25:00 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles Mail List" , "Dale Horstman" Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 06:42:28 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <3745F08B.24E33A3C@tidalwave.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Goin' for a little ride. Message-Id: <199905221125.6182400@zzapp.org> On Fri, 21 May 1999 19:47:23 -0400, Dale Horstman wrote: > >getting together tomorrow evening for steak dinner in >Kansas City, MO. KC is about 1100 miles from DC (uhh, >that's Dale City, you know...:) I've never done back >to back 1000 mile days before. The IBA calls it this >kind of ride a SaddleSore 2000. I call it going out for >dinner. :) Sorry I missed this one. You need to announce sooner! BTW, if I went, I would not be coming right back. I own a house just outside of KC, and I would stay and hang out for a while. If I was thinking of back-to-back rides, I would end up back home in Idaho, then I would never come back.... ___________ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen Team OS/2 From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 07:48:25 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA03373 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:48:23 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id HAA19021; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:49:00 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma019011; Sat, 22 May 99 07:48:22 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FC400EE7U7DDU@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:50:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256779.0040B2B9 ; Sat, 22 May 1999 07:46:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 07:44:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Goin' for a little ride. To: Dale Horstman Cc: DC Cycles Message-id: <85256779.0040B0DA.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I was just in KC on business yesterday. Hopefully you're meeting at Plaza III The Steakhouse. It was excellent. --chris To: DC Cycles cc: From: Dale Horstman Date: 05/21/99 11:47:23 PM GMT Subject: Goin' for a little ride. There's a group of Ironbutt Association folks who are getting together tomorrow evening for steak dinner in Kansas City, MO. KC is about 1100 miles from DC (uhh, that's Dale City, you know...:) I've never done back to back 1000 mile days before. The IBA calls it this kind of ride a SaddleSore 2000. I call it going out for dinner. :) Wish me luck! Horkster (on the road again....) PS: Just got the BGSLYR plate transferred over to the new Connie, so we all KNEW I'd just have to go for a little ride anyway, right? -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 10:06:49 1999 Return-Path: klx650dan@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.chek.com (qmailr@XXXXXX [208.197.227.56]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06328 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13727 invoked from network); 22 May 1999 14:07:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web2.chek.com) (208.197.227.39) by mail1.chek.com with SMTP; 22 May 1999 14:07:55 -0000 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by web2.chek.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA02523; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:04:41 -0400 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:04:41 -0400 Message-Id: <199905221404.KAA02523@web2.chek.com> From: "Danodemotoman" To: rdrdr Cc: DC-Cycles , mcadv_touring@XXXXXX Subject: Re:[mcadv_touring] Rear Axle achieves freedom On Sat, 22 May 1999 05:32:21 -0700 rdrdr wrote: > >The axle was freed after an operation which began at 1100 hours on = >Friday and ended at 1700 hours. It required about 12 oz of WD40 and = >hundreds of hammer strokes (is it strokes or hits ?). >I soaked WD40 So the first thing comes to mind is I better remember to grese that axel and spacer ID to help prevent this as I have had this experience before. But a bike that has not been apart for years can be a problem. Dan P, Graham WA COG 2877, AMA 549865, CMA, UMCI '93 KLX650R Baja d/s kit 'Dirt Boss' '98 Kaw Concours ZG1000 'Grrr' '70 Suzuki T500 Titan 'Dayjavoo' Yo Ho, Yo Ho, it's a bikers life for me! From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 10:37:53 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA06815 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA29274 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (209-122-196-7.s7.tnt5.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.196.7]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25359 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:37:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA14289 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:37:42 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma014287; Sat, 22 May 99 10:37:34 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990522103708.00a80d10@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:38:13 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Buffett (non0moto) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There was someone on the list that had me order 3 tickets for him. Paid by his own credit card. I have the tickets here, so please email me off-list to arrange pickup. Thanks. ______________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 11:04:46 1999 Return-Path: TYNDA@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07262 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 11:04:45 -0400 (EDT) From: TYNDA@XXXXXX Received: from TYNDA@XXXXXX (324) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id nCLFa02589; Sat, 22 May 1999 11:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 11:03:33 EDT Subject: Re: [mcadv_touring] Rear Axle achieves freedom To: rdrdr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mcadv_touring@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Glad to hear that everything now ok don't forget to go to our web site at www.rio.com/~tynda for International Motorcycle Adventurers Tynda From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 13:55:46 1999 Return-Path: bcooper@XXXXXX Received: from smtp.pacifier.com (root@XXXXXX [199.2.117.96]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA09934 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 13:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brooks (ip31.pdx1.pacifier.com [216.65.144.31]) by smtp.pacifier.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA27829; Sat, 22 May 1999 10:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <00a301bea47c$3aa45220$1f9041d8@brooks> From: "Brooks Cooper" To: "Danodemotoman" , "rdrdr" Cc: "DC-Cycles" , Subject: Re: [mcadv_touring] Rear Axle achieves freedom Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 10:50:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 A liberal application of never seize on parts like this is often useful. Same goes for exhaust clamp bolts. Tends to provide longer benefit than grease, especially if the part is subjected to high temps. IMHO Brooks Cooper '92 R 100 GS/PD ABC 3664 Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in one pretty and well preserved piece, but to skid broadside, thoroughly used up, worn, out, and shouting GERONIMO! - Somebody smarter than me whose name I didn't catch -----Original Message----- From: Danodemotoman To: rdrdr Cc: DC-Cycles ; mcadv_touring@XXXXXX Date: Saturday, May 22, 1999 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [mcadv_touring] Rear Axle achieves freedom >From: "Danodemotoman" > >On Sat, 22 May 1999 05:32:21 -0700 rdrdr wrote: > >> >>The axle was freed after an operation which began at 1100 hours on = >>Friday and ended at 1700 hours. It required about 12 oz of WD40 and = >>hundreds of hammer strokes (is it strokes or hits ?). >>I soaked WD40 > > So the first thing comes to mind is I better remember to grese that axel and spacer ID to help prevent this as I have had this experience before. > But a bike that has not been apart for years can be a problem. > > Dan P, Graham WA COG 2877, AMA 549865, CMA, UMCI > '93 KLX650R Baja d/s kit 'Dirt Boss' > '98 Kaw Concours ZG1000 'Grrr' > '70 Suzuki T500 Titan 'Dayjavoo' >Yo Ho, Yo Ho, it's a bikers life for me! > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >ONElist: the best source for group communications. >http://www.onelist.com >Join a new list today! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Motorcycle Adventure Touring Website: >http://www.nucleus.com/~cmbt_touring > From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 18:31:38 1999 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA14144 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:31:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust029.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.29]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA00506; Sat, 22 May 1999 18:31:23 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990522182840.006ac584@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 18:28:40 -0400 To: "Brian N" , "dc-cycles" From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Summit on Sunday In-Reply-To: <000d01bea3fb$044804a0$db4daccf@brn626> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll be there with the new decals on the ZX6. Leon. At 10:30 PM 5/21/99 -0400, Brian N wrote: >Is anyone planning on going to Summit Point on Sunday.? > >Brian N >96 Yamaha FZR600 > > From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 19:53:43 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo26.mx.aol.com (imo26.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.70]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA15397 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:53:41 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX (8039) by imo26.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2THSa01068; Sat, 22 May 1999 19:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 19:53:03 EDT Subject: Reminder --One lap WV To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX CC: , Lordorange@XXXXXX, gustoe@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 The first annual one lap of West Virginia will depart fron the Sheetz in Charles Town promptly at 9:00 AM on Saturday May 29. Please forward to any other list or individual Bob McKeithen From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 20:08:55 1999 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from brap-3.cais.net (brap-3.cais.net [205.252.14.37]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA15666 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 20:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wowbager (dynamic116.cais.com [207.226.56.116]) by brap-3.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id UAA01124 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 20:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004301bea4b0$22dc12c0$7438e2cf@wowbager> From: "Mike B." To: "DC-Cycles" References: <3745F08B.24E33A3C@tidalwave.net> Subject: Re: Goin' for a little ride. Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 20:06:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Go Get Em Dale!!! Good Luck. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale Horstman To: DC Cycles Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 7:47 PM Subject: Goin' for a little ride. > There's a group of Ironbutt Association folks who are > getting together tomorrow evening for steak dinner in > Kansas City, MO. KC is about 1100 miles from DC (uhh, > that's Dale City, you know...:) I've never done back > to back 1000 mile days before. The IBA calls it this > kind of ride a SaddleSore 2000. I call it going out for > dinner. :) > > Wish me luck! > > Horkster (on the road again....) > > PS: Just got the BGSLYR plate transferred over to the > new Connie, so we all KNEW I'd just have to go for a little > ride anyway, right? > > -- > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet > sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" > From dc-cycles-request Sat May 22 23:44:37 1999 Return-Path: rcrishock@XXXXXX Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18914 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 23:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with SMTP id XAA07372 for ; Sat, 22 May 1999 23:44:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BEA4AC.F8A585C0@XXXXXX>; Sat, 22 May 1999 23:44:02 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Crishock, Richard" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Beating motorcycles into submission Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:44:00 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The recent message about getting the stubborn axle bolt free made me think of a couple of things that might be of value to someone else on the list who has a similar problem in the future. I have to be honest; one of my most frequently used tools is a hammer. ;) Admittedly there are times when you can't help destroying stuff, but nonetheless, here it is... 1. After lubing with the WD-40, hit those threaded parts first with that big rubber (or hyde) mallet, then move on to the bigger guns if that doesn't work. 2. If the threaded part is (like an axle spindle) not exposed, and is big enough, hit that sucker with a center punch. You'll dig a little hole in the end of it, but hopefully save the threads. 3. If the first two steps don't work, and it is an exposed part and/or too small to use the punch, try to get at least a nut or two locked onto the end, and beat on the nut. 4. This one is unrelated to axle bolts, but is an attempt to stop one of the worst methods of unintentional abuse perpetrated on our beloved motos. Never pry an engine cover off with anything. Take all the bolts out, and hit it on the sides (with the rubber mallet you bought for that damned axle bolt) until it loosens up. 5. Oh yeah, and buy an impact driver. I bought mine at Home Despot. Truly a great tool. It gets those stubborn philips head screws out without ruining them. Anyone got any more tips? Let's share them with the list. Rich - trying hard not to ruin any more parts '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet Sterling From dc-cycles-request Sun May 23 07:31:29 1999 Return-Path: dthompso1@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA00709 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 07:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 95 (207-172-109-108.s45.as2.war.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.109.108]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id HAA03601 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 07:31:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000701bea50f$e43c4480$6c6daccf@95> From: "D. Thompson" To: References: <3.0.3.32.19990522182840.006ac584@illuminet.net> Subject: Re: Summit on Sunday Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 07:32:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I'll be there. Maybe we can meet up and ride out together. Danny '99 VFR "...Those who honor me, I will honor,..." 1 Samuel 2:30 Subject: Re: Summit on Sunday > I'll be there with the new decals on the ZX6. > Leon. > > At 10:30 PM 5/21/99 -0400, Brian N wrote: > >Is anyone planning on going to Summit Point on Sunday.? > > > >Brian N > >96 Yamaha FZR600 > > > > > From dc-cycles-request Sun May 23 17:06:54 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA10623 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-97.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.97]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA22034 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:06:49 -0400 Message-ID: <0bdb01bea560$0de97640$53a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Zen. And -- the art of Cellphone use Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:05:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0BD8_01BEA53E.86179380" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0BD8_01BEA53E.86179380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Riders Two items that popped out of recent in-transit reading -- o Living safely with our new toys. On Thursday the New York City Taxi = Commission said "No" to cellphone use by cabbies while driving -- = apparently one of the first such cellphone/car restrictions nationally. = Two studies were also cited: NHTSA recently found that "drivers who = used a mobile phone behind the wheel had a higher accident rate." And a = Canadian study concluded that hands-free phones were no safer than = hand-held phones. Full story in the 5/21 NYT Metro section. =20 o To understand why we may do things other than ride: The 25th = Anniversary edition of 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' = (Robert M. Pirsig) is out in pprbk for $13.00. Has the original + extra = letters, new intro, etc. The Morrow site has two poignant pages -- a = description of this 99 edition: http://www.williammorrow.com/wm_user/book.html?book_id=3D2535&edition_id=3D= 3676 and a reading group page with discussion questions (from the new edn) = for those that want to play more with the material. (For DC-Cycles = parties wee hour use?). http://www.williammorrow.com/wm/readingguide/zen.html Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> No Zen please, just gas, oil and maps. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ------=_NextPart_000_0BD8_01BEA53E.86179380 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello = Riders
 
Two items that popped = out of recent=20 in-transit reading --
 
 o  Living = safely with our=20 new toys.  On Thursday the New York City Taxi Commission said=20 "No" to cellphone use by cabbies while driving -- apparently = one of=20 the first such cellphone/car restrictions nationally.  =
 
    Two = studies were=20 also cited:  NHTSA recently found that "drivers who used a = mobile=20 phone behind the wheel had a higher accident rate."  And a = Canadian=20 study concluded that hands-free phones were no safer than hand-held=20 phones.  Full story in the 5/21 NYT Metro section.  =
 
 
o  To understand = why we may do=20 things other than ride:  The 25th Anniversary edition of 'Zen and = the Art=20 of Motorcycle Maintenance' (Robert M. Pirsig) is out in pprbk for = $13.00. =20 Has the original + extra letters, new intro, etc.  The Morrow site = has two=20 poignant pages -- a description of this 99 edition:
http://www.williammorrow.com/wm_user/book.html?book_id=3D= 2535&edition_id=3D3676
 
and a reading group page with = discussion questions=20 (from the new edn) for those that want to play more with the = material. =20 (For DC-Cycles parties wee hour use?).
http://www= .williammorrow.com/wm/readingguide/zen.html
 
Bill S. / DC
99 VN750 --> No Zen = please, just=20 gas, oil and maps.
Join the AMA.  Help protect my = riding=20 fun.
------=_NextPart_000_0BD8_01BEA53E.86179380-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 23 23:56:42 1999 Return-Path: kamuelle@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA17734 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 23:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kamuelle (207-172-75-172.s172.tnt3.man.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.75.172]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id XAA02870 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 23:56:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990524000346.00952700@mail.vt.edu> X-Sender: kamuelle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:03:46 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Karl Mueller Subject: Manuals.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Clymer or Haynes? (For my kawi EX500) Haynes is $5 cheaper, so if there's no difference, i'll go with that one :) Cheers, Karl p.s. Hope everyone at Summit Pt. had a great raceday and kept the rubber side down From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 04:05:24 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id EAA22687 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 04:05:21 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX (318) by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2MRRa03188 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 04:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <21e1ca30.247a61f0@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 04:04:00 EDT Subject: ERC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Did the experienced rider course on Sunday. It was worthwhile , but didn't learn anything really earth shaking. The excercises were fun, But I think the course would be better if it was more real world. I almost discharged my battery puttin' around at low rpm for several hours with my super blaster high beam on. But I was sufficiently impressed with the program to sign up to help with later courses this summer. Bob McKeithen From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 08:41:48 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA27200 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA27011 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:41:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA25076 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FC800K3BLWRXX@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:44:04 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: Pictures from Summit Point To: Dc-Cycles Message-id: <002801bea5e3$1af3d820$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Pictures from the CCS Races at Summit Point can be seen at: http://www.fj1100.com Then click on SUMMIT POINT Link. Maybe your picture is in there somewhere? Hope you enjoy! Gary W. Foreman Email: fj1100@XXXXXX Web: http://www.fj1100.com '99 TL1000R | '88 KX250 | '85 FJ1100 He who dies with the most toys...dies Happy! From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 09:51:38 1999 Return-Path: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from imo22.mx.aol.com (imo22.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28541 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:51:36 -0400 (EDT) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX (7815) by imo22.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id iGWFa19847; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:48:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <62307e0e.247ab2bd@aol.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:48:45 EDT Subject: Re: Manuals.. To: kamuelle@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 >Clymer or Haynes? (For my kawi EX500) >Haynes is $5 cheaper, so if there's no difference, i'll go with that one :) Haynes is British, and some of the terminology is a bit different. I have not looked at the ones for an EX500, but for my BMW, the Clymer manual was way better. More and better pictures, with arrows pointing to the bolt (or whatever) described in the text. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 09:57:28 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA28618 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA28666 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:57:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA26488 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:57:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) with SMTP; 24 May 1999 16:58:44 UT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 9:57 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Tire wear questions Message-ID: <19990524095824567-13b063dd@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The cracks are from dry-rot... most likely caused by over-exposure to the sun. Keeping the bike in a garage or under a cover can usually keep this problem away. Also keep the bike away from any electrical devices that put out ozone as this tends to do the same thing. The tires are wasted... get new ones (stick with the Dunlops... stay away from the cheap stuff). The sidewalls of the tires are now weak and with the summer heat coming a blowout could be possible (you DON'T want that happening). Replace them and make sure that you "scrub'em in" before trying to "really" ride the bike. New tires are very slippery when first mounted and could take a couple of hours worth of use to make safe. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Tire wear questions Author: ursulina@XXXXXX (Ursulina Viteri) Date: 5/21/99 1:45 AM Howdy, I recently took a good look at my front and rear tire and noticed lots of little cracks along the side walls. There still plenty of tread left and my "chicken strips" are plenty wide so I'm wearing them out evenly. The front tire (IRC RW 010F) has about 6K miles on it and was installed last spring/summer. The rear tire (Dunlop K627) has almost 10K miles and came new with the bike when it was purchased Oct 97. Neither tire feels hard to the touch nor have I noticed a change in performance. Does it sound like it's time for a new set of tires? What would be a good indicator (other than baldness) that tires need to be replaced? - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 10:24:19 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29117 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crxja001.wachovia.com ([199.4.241.53]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA12724 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:24:25 -0400 Message-Id: <199905241424.KAA12724@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:20:22 -0400 Subject: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ [Update] Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) It looks like we'll have at least 10-12 people for the ride and BBQ on 5/31, so there's still room for more! :-) Just let me know if you think you'll be coming, so I make sure to get enough food! :-) I plan on starting the ride from Sterling, VA at around 9:00 am (translation, the ride will leave at 9:30 am), and getting back around 1:30-2:00 pm to start the BBQ. The ride will probably be about 150- 175 miles. I put in a request for good weather, just so we won't have to worry about rain! :-) I'll post directions to my house later on in the week... I'm really looking forward to stirring up my neighborhood a bit! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 10:38:01 1999 Return-Path: Lisa@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29390 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kds1.kivex.com (kds1.kivex.com [208.213.150.16]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA29462 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lisagoddard.kivex.com ([209.135.198.107]) by kds1.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.8-KIVEX) with SMTP id KAA18873 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990524102911.00691d08@kivex.com> X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:29:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Lisa S. Goddard" Subject: apology Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jay and I would like to apologize to Sean Sullivan. We were all at the Sportfest in Frederick and planning on riding back towards DC together. Jay completed his last ride on a ZX-6R when the rain began... Because I am such a fraidycat. Other news on our end: We sold my ZX-6 yesterday. If you see a large male riding around on a pink ZX-6 is is not me or Jay. I am now in the market for another bike. Lisa Goddard Kivex.com Unlock the power of the Internet! From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 11:27:31 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00522 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:27:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:24:11 EDT Message-Id: <199905241124.AA1573124@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Back from Kansas City X-Mailer: Hey all! I did it! Got back safe and sound last night from Kansas City. More details later. Essentially it was a totally uneventful 2200 mile round trip. Dale -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 11:39:24 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00763 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA27491; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:37:39 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA11923; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:39:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:39:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Pictures from Summit Point. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have uploaded some pictures that I took last weekend at Summit Point to the Yahoo DC Area Riders club page. http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dcareariders ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 11:44:07 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00851 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00163 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send205.yahoomail.com (web301.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.183]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA29792 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990524154736.22855.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web301.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 08:47:36 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:47:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re:Tire wear questions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii he he he.. I get to be the exceptioon again... ;-) The IRC's that Ursuliina has on the front end are actually really good tires.... nice and sticky and seem to wear well as well... After looking hers over, and being a cheap bastage, that's what I decided to put on Pepe...They grip good enough to get any cruiser over to the hard bits and with several thousand miles on mine, they still look like brand new...and the cool thing is that they only cost $140 for the whole set.. Collin --- Tom Zell wrote: > The tires are wasted... get new ones (stick with the Dunlops... stay > away from > the cheap stuff). === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 11:46:00 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00944 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:43:49 EDT Message-Id: <199905241143.AA4129038@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: ldrider@XXXXXX Subject: My chat with the Midland Rep X-Mailer: I JUST got off the phone with Ronnie at Midland Radio, he's got my 805 cb/fm/weather radio there for warranty repair. Had a nice chat, here are some interesting tidbits... - Midland only warranties the loose connection thing ONCE, evidently it's fairly common, he blamed it on excessive vibration with the connectors. - My circuit board had significant water damage, I had no transmit ability (Leon, that's why the damned thing never worked!) - this was NOT covered under warranty. $45 flat rate to fix. Bummer. - Midland has NEVER recommend these radios for use on motorcycles. They say the vibration on a typical motorcycle (and exposure to the elements) is usually death for a radio. They don't make and don't plan to make a radio that would be suitable for a motorcycle environment. They feel the market is too small. I asked him to reconsider. :) - The little rubber ducky antenna is a ground plane type antenna, your hand is the ground plane (it is a handheld radio, after all) Ronnie said when you mount it on a plastic handlebar mount, you've totally lost the ground plane and your range is reduced. - Significant gains in transmission range can be had by going to a larger external antenna. Vibration at the antenna coax mount is another problem area they see a lot of. - He said J&M typically gets it's radios for about $88 from Midland, soaks the circuit boards in epoxy (for protection, but which makes any maintenance further impossible btw) adds about a mile of electrics and wires, and sells them for $900 to you and me. Interesting. - The marine type waterproofing spray you can use to coat the circuit board makes further repairs impossible too. Plus you lose your warranty by opening the case anyway. Since there's nothing left on this radio to warranty (essentially) I may still end up going this route. - The cheapo plastic handlebar mounts you can get that bolt to the clutch brackets (I have one, haven't used it yet) tend to break sometimes. Not a good thing. Lexan is too brittle. - If you use a plastic handlebar mount, loading up the cb with 9 AA cell batteries (another pound or so of weight) almost ensures your chances of snapping the mount. - The best place for a radio (if you use one) is in a tankbag, isolated from rain and vibration. - FRS type radios are a good bet if all you want to do is communicate with another bike. No CB, so you can't talk to truckers, though. - I bitched about the scan feature on the CB but not the FM, he said that circuit would be so complicated it would be next to impossible to set up. Car stereos have scan features, but they don't transmit, and the scan circuit is complicated there, too. Overall, it was a very pleasant and informative conversation. He doesn't sound positive for the prospect of cb radios on motorcycles. He rides, too, but not long distances. He wouldn't think of having a radio on his bike (he likes the peace and quiet, I can understand this, too...) Oh well, hope this was interesting to somebody. Dale -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 11:49:05 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA00988 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:48:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id LAA29746; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:46:49 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id LAA17117; Mon, 24 May 1999 11:48:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:48:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: War of the Superbikes by the Meatmen Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've just uploaded a copy of this classic tune to my Website. As this will put me over my quota I can only keep it there for a few days so get it while it's hot. http://www.concentric.net/~turnip ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 12:01:13 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01342 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:01:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA04982 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FC800C73UW9D4@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:55:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta01.mcit.com (omzmta01.mcit.com [166.37.194.119]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA25773 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:51:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta01.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990524155520.GGKB30629@toddnt> for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:55:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:52:50 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: FW: For Sale To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <001401bea5fd$79e43360$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal FYI..... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hsta@XXXXXX [mailto:owner-hsta@XXXXXX] > On Behalf Of Conrad & Martha Weiser > Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 10:13 PM > To: Honda Sport Touring Association > Subject: For Sale > > > 1996 Honda XR650L Dual Sport, 2839 miles, ridden off road 6-8 times, > excellent condition, nearly new knobbies. Have extra set of dual sport > tires, two extra countershaft sprockets, one extra rear sprocket, other > goodies including service manual. $2700 firm. Buy the bike and I will > throw in a nearly new set of knee pads, elbow pads, chest protector, > shirt and pants worth about $250. > > 1989 Honda Transalp, 5002 miles, white with red and blue accents, > excellent condition, good rubber. $2000 firm. > > Have decided dual sport and off road riding do not have the appeal I > thought it would have and will be returning to sport touring full time. > Reply off list or call 717-528-7068. > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 12:25:01 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA01838 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03454 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:24:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re:Tire wear questions In-Reply-To: <19990524154736.22855.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 May 1999, Collin T. Fagan wrote: > he he he.. I get to be the exceptioon again... ;-) > The IRC's that Ursuliina has on the front end are actually really good > tires.... Indeed, IRCs aren't really cheap in the quality sense. I don't think Dunlop has anything over them in the categories that IRC has a similar tire. They're just an Asian manufacturer without a well known name here. The best deal on tires I've ever seen were those dirt tires Niv was giving away. Sure enough, they look brand new and are just the right sizes for my XR! Woo hoo, free tires! Kirk From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 12:39:20 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA02166 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:39:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990524164120.9975.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.48.193.3] by web303.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:41:20 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:41:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Steering Dampers To: djones@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ohlins is generally considered one of the top makers... below them, however, I would recommend WER, Scott's, or Hyperpro. The first two are trick Rotary items (WER hides away on lower triple, Scott's is on top of the top triple clamp) and Hyperpro mounts across the tank like the ohlins does....All three are in the ball park of $300-$400. You can finder cheaper side mount dampers like storz and daytona for around $200-$250, but I'd go with the former if it were me.. Collin --- djones@XXXXXX wrote: > Any suggestions on the above mentioned part. I think I want to mount > one on > my YZF1000R. I experienced a vicious tank slapper years ago & these > dampers > help. The YZF has not displayed any head shakes to speak of, but I > like the > way the dampers look....very kewl. > > Thanks, DJ & "STORM" > > > > === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 12:51:26 1999 Return-Path: JCM@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA02487 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from defender.fda.gov (defender.fda.gov [198.77.181.2]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id MAA08355 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from FDADR.CDRH.FDA.GOV by defender.fda.gov via smtpd (for bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) with SMTP; 24 May 1999 16:50:48 UT Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by CVAX3.CDRH.FDA.GOV (PMDF V5.1-12 #28864) id <01JBKR4LKATS8Y5SOK@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:51:15 EDT Received: from drm555.cdrh.fda.gov (EXCHANGE.CDRH.FDA.GOV) by CVAX3.CDRH.FDA.GOV (PMDF V5.1-12 #28864) with ESMTP id <01JBKR4KXSNA8Y5UQM@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by EXCHANGE.CDRH.FDA.GOV with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:51:25 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:51:25 -0400 From: "Monahan, John C." Subject: RE: For Sale To: "'Todd Peer'" , DC-Cycles Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain If anyone is interested these bikes are in Southcentral PA just north of Gettysburg. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Todd Peer [SMTP:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 11:53 AM To: DC-Cycles Subject: FW: For Sale FYI..... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hsta@XXXXXX [mailto:owner-hsta@XXXXXX] > On Behalf Of Conrad & Martha Weiser > Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 10:13 PM > To: Honda Sport Touring Association > Subject: For Sale > > > 1996 Honda XR650L Dual Sport, 2839 miles, ridden off road 6-8 times, > excellent condition, nearly new knobbies. Have extra set of dual sport > tires, two extra countershaft sprockets, one extra rear sprocket, other > goodies including service manual. $2700 firm. Buy the bike and I will > throw in a nearly new set of knee pads, elbow pads, chest protector, > shirt and pants worth about $250. > > 1989 Honda Transalp, 5002 miles, white with red and blue accents, > excellent condition, good rubber. $2000 firm. > > Have decided dual sport and off road riding do not have the appeal I > thought it would have and will be returning to sport touring full time. > Reply off list or call 717-528-7068. > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 13:01:17 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA02693 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:59:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Steering Dampers Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:59:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Why, you may ask.. well, because of what we saw happen to the GSXR750 that was pitted beside us this weekend - he crashed (not his fault.. a flying body took him out), and riped a fair hole in his frame.. right where the damper mounts, it was nickle sized, and almost completely ripped through. Withinthe size of a dollar bill around that hole, there were other breaks from the stress (stright-line cracks) - if he'd had a WER/Scotts uint that hides itself, that damage would most likely never had occured.. Brian > -----Original Message----- > From: Collin T. Fagan [mailto:gixer_racer@XXXXXX] I'd go with the former if it were me.. > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 13:26:04 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03130 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:26:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id NAA05922; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:25:53 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from galileo.concentric.net (galileo [206.173.119.84]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id NAA06239; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:25:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:25:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Friend needs electrical help. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A coworker has been having some trouble with his bike. Following is the email he sent to me. If you have any ideas feel free to email them to me or post them on the list and I'll forward them to my friend. looked at the wiring on my bike this weekend. I can not see anything obvious that would cause a short or drain on the battery. The recent tragic events: My battery went dead, I charged it. Three days later it was dead again. I purchased a new battery, charged it and rode to work the next day happy as could be. The following morning, it was dead again. I had noticed over the past few months that my headlight would dim while braking and get brighter with increased rpms. I have very little mechanical experience, but I am not an idiot. If pointed in the right direction I can figure most things out. I do not have the manual for my bike, an '80 XS Eleven Special. I am not certain how motorcycles recharge their batteries. I have often heard of people replacing their voltage regulators, could this be the problem? Dave Willard ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 13:46:21 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03649 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02404 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:46:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03834 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:46:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FC90020G00O7N@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:49:15 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: Friend needs electrical help. In-reply-to: To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" Cc: DC-Cycles Mailing List Message-id: <000a01bea60d$bd5b1040$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: High X-MSMail-Priority: High X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Hugh, Probably Rectifier/Regulator. With no charging, everything is running off the battery. I think I might have a shop manual for this bike. Would he like it? Any of you near Leesburg? Gary Foreman > -----Original Message----- > From: Hugh A. Caldwell [mailto:Turnip@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 1:26 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Friend needs electrical help. > > > > A coworker has been having some trouble with his > bike. Following is the email he sent to me. If you have any > ideas feel free to email them to me or post them on the list > and I'll forward them to my friend. > > looked at the wiring on my bike this weekend. I can not see anything > obvious that would cause a short or drain on the battery. > > The recent tragic events: > My battery went dead, I charged it. Three days later it was dead again. > I purchased a new battery, charged it and rode to work the next day happy > as could be. The following morning, it was dead again. > > I had noticed over the past few months that my headlight would dim while > braking and get brighter with increased rpms. I have very little > mechanical experience, but I am not an idiot. If pointed in the right > direction I can figure most things out. I do not have the manual for my > bike, an '80 XS Eleven Special. I am not certain how motorcycles recharge > their batteries. I have often heard of people replacing their voltage > regulators, could this be the problem? > > Dave Willard > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 13:52:23 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03743 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:52:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr25-dialup26.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.72.26]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0FC900JRX0A23Z@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 24 May 1999 17:51:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:50:23 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Friend needs electrical help. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <00be01bea5ec$60bfccc0$1a483ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Hugh, Sounds like the regulator/rectifier. He is probably guessing right. To test, get a volt meter, connect the leads to the battery and run the bike at about 3k rpm. If the voltage is over/under 14 to 15 volts, it's toast. Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: Hugh A. Caldwell To: Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 5:25 PM Subject: Friend needs electrical help. > > A coworker has been having some trouble with his > bike. Following is the email he sent to me. If you have any > ideas feel free to email them to me or post them on the list > and I'll forward them to my friend. > > looked at the wiring on my bike this weekend. I can not see anything > obvious that would cause a short or drain on the battery. > > The recent tragic events: > My battery went dead, I charged it. Three days later it was dead again. > I purchased a new battery, charged it and rode to work the next day happy > as could be. The following morning, it was dead again. > > I had noticed over the past few months that my headlight would dim while > braking and get brighter with increased rpms. I have very little > mechanical experience, but I am not an idiot. If pointed in the right > direction I can figure most things out. I do not have the manual for my > bike, an '80 XS Eleven Special. I am not certain how motorcycles recharge > their batteries. I have often heard of people replacing their voltage > regulators, could this be the problem? > > Dave Willard > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 13:53:05 1999 Return-Path: fnord@XXXXXX Received: from sasami.jurai.net (fnord@XXXXXX [63.67.141.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA03753 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:53:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from fnord@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA05659; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:51:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:51:21 -0400 From: Elie Rosenblum To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Friend needs electrical help. Message-ID: <19990524135121.A5579@cosanostra.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: ; from Hugh A. Caldwell on Mon, May 24, 1999 at 01:25:51PM -0400 X-Illuminati: Can you see the fnords? X-Cthulhu: HASTUR And thus spake Hugh A. Caldwell, on Mon, May 24, 1999 at 01:25:51PM -0400: > A coworker has been having some trouble with his > bike. Following is the email he sent to me. If you have any > ideas feel free to email them to me or post them on the list > and I'll forward them to my friend. > > looked at the wiring on my bike this weekend. I can not see anything > obvious that would cause a short or drain on the battery. > > The recent tragic events: > My battery went dead, I charged it. Three days later it was dead again. > I purchased a new battery, charged it and rode to work the next day happy > as could be. The following morning, it was dead again. > > I had noticed over the past few months that my headlight would dim while > braking and get brighter with increased rpms. I have very little > mechanical experience, but I am not an idiot. If pointed in the right > direction I can figure most things out. I do not have the manual for my > bike, an '80 XS Eleven Special. I am not certain how motorcycles recharge > their batteries. I have often heard of people replacing their voltage > regulators, could this be the problem? Sounds like a partially dead alternator (or generator, depending on the level of technology in the bike's electical system), to me. Just had that happen to my truck. It could also be any of the leads connecting the alternator or battery to other parts of the electrical system (or, more likely, each other). Probably time for a nice debugging session with a multimeter and an electrical schematic, to check for continuity, amps, and voltage across the various locations in question. -- Elie Rosenblum '83 Datsun PU (beater/hauler) 2.4L I4 http://www.cosanostra.net '75 Volvo 164E (disassembled) 3.0L I6 Admin / Mercenary / System Programmer '74 Honda CB750 (fun) .74L I4 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 15:12:55 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA05408 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:12:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 24 May 1999 22:14:10 UT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:12 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: A Sunday afternoon excursion... Message-ID: <19990524151337793-14d0fba6@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yesterday, Jeannette and I decided to hop on the VFRs to get out of the house for a while. I had been working all week at night fixing the 750's bodywork from my slight spill last summer so I was really itching to go out and play. We headed out of Arlington on 395 to DC and then onto 295. (Sarcastic tone on) Let me just praise DC on the lovely job they've done at keeping their roads in tip top condition. (Sarcastic tone off). For a while I thought there was something terribly wrong with the 750 and was ready to turn around and go home. When we reached "real" pavement on MD 210, I knew everything was going to be ok. We continued out MD 210 to MD 228... not a bad road but way too much traffic... and took that all the way to Rt 5/301. Took 301 to Rt 4 (yes this is a lot of slab... we didn't have a lot of time to go exploring... we were hungry!) and took Rt 4 all the way down to Solomon's Island. Solomon's Island was pretty interesting... I haven't been there in probably 15 years and it was good to be back there again. We ate like pigs at the Pier Restuarant and got to watch Cesna land and take off from the river... pretty cool! We got all kinds of looks from the town's folk (it mostly a Harley-like area... not too many people show up in full sportbike leathers and Day-Glo green helmets) but the kids sure did love us! We also met a really nice lady and her husband... they own a Gold Wing (she wants her own... he won't let her) but weren't riding it at the time. She thought it was so special that we had matching VFRs. How sweet!... blah!!! (just kidding Jeannette). After gorging ourselves at the Pier we decided to make a run for home. I decided to make it a quick run for home as the shy was beginning to take on a threatening look so we probably kept the speed around 80 MPH and according to Jeannette's BC1100 we hit a top speed of 94 MPH somewhere along the trip. Everything had gone incident free up until a guy almost whacked Jeannette while trying to check out my bike. All in all though it was a great trip and we racked up a nice 166 miles (getting us ready for longer trips over the summer... it's rough when you have a mouse pad for a seat). Next time I'll find some nice roads to run through Southern Maryland. The riding is great down there IMO and the farther you go the flatter the land gets meaning you can see a good distance. Tom & Jeannette '86 VFR750 '86 VFR700F2 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 15:20:43 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05592 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:20:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:18:33 EDT Message-Id: <199905241518.AA4784672@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: JinnSinn@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Goin' for a little ride. X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 02:36:02 EDT >have fun!!!! send us a postcard ;D Marcy --------------------- I was in town barely long enough to eat dinner and make a quick phone call. I never think of traditional touristy things (postcards, cameras, etc. etc.) until I get home. Dale (sure would've liked to snap that pic of the sun coming up at the St. Louis Arch. Oh well. I was there. :) -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 15:59:29 1999 Return-Path: redsullivan@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06308 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web506.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.73]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA21346 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 15:59:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990524200104.21411.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [198.45.19.20] by web506.yahoomail.com; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:01:04 PDT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:01:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Sullivan Subject: Re: apology To: "Lisa S. Goddard" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry I missed you and Jay, Lisa. I got back late from the demo ride because I chased down the gentleman with a white beard who went astray at a turn. The rain started just as we finally turned around, and I don't think he liked handling the BMW K1200 demo bike on wet roads. By the time we got back to the start, they had packed away all the other demo bikes and everybody but the employees had gone home. Kind of fun to take the new Speed Triple away for awhile! Are you getting another bike? Sean Sullivan --- "Lisa S. Goddard" wrote: > Jay and I would like to apologize to Sean Sullivan. > We were all at the > Sportfest in Frederick and planning on riding back > towards DC together. > Jay completed his last ride on a ZX-6R when the rain > began... SNIP > Lisa Goddard > Kivex.com > Unlock the power of the Internet! > > _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 16:00:39 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA06400 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:00:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 24 May 1999 23:01:54 UT Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 14:00 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Friend needs electrical help. Message-ID: <19990524140124202-148edb8f@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii As a former XS owner (as well as some other early 80's machines) I would have to say replace the rotor, the stator, and the voltage regulator. They all tend to go bad at around about the same time or pretty close to. These things are terrible on these parts... all of mine have needed at least a new rotor especially when they've been dropped (fell over in a parking space). Good luck! Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Friend needs electrical help. Author: Turnip@XXXXXX (Hugh A. Caldwell) Date: 5/24/99 1:25 PM A coworker has been having some trouble with his bike. Following is the email he sent to me. If you have any ideas feel free to email them to me or post them on the list and I'll forward them to my friend. looked at the wiring on my bike this weekend. I can not see anything obvious that would cause a short or drain on the battery. The recent tragic events: My battery went dead, I charged it. Three days later it was dead again. I purchased a new battery, charged it and rode to work the next day happy as could be. The following morning, it was dead again. I had noticed over the past few months that my headlight would dim while braking and get brighter with increased rpms. I have very little mechanical experience, but I am not an idiot. If pointed in the right direction I can figure most things out. I do not have the manual for my bike, an '80 XS Eleven Special. I am not certain how motorcycles recharge their batteries. I have often heard of people replacing their voltage regulators, could this be the problem? Dave Willard ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 16:54:42 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07392 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:54:37 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (4541) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2HSEa02587 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:51:52 EDT Subject: Re: Friend needs electrical help. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 I put my vote in for the rotor/stator. My bike acted the exact same way until the stator completely died and left me stranded on 495 at night (special thanks again to Collin for getting my bike back home!). Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 16:57:37 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA07498 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA05419 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:57:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA10057 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 63 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:57:18 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990524165539.01ae1c60@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:57:16 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Nady PRC-8 Communicator Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just ordered one of these today from http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/. Hope to find some other listers to chat with =3D) Nady PRC-8=20 $186.95=20 Motorcycle to motorcycle communicator with intercom=20 The PRC-8 features one-at-a-time (simplex) conversation capability between drivers and passengers on any number of vehicles plus and FM radio=20 One-touch FM scanning-reset feature=20 Measures 5.1" x 3.3" x 1" and weighs just 9.2 oz.=20 Powered by a 9-volt battery (not included)=20 Includes one Communicator unit and two headsets=20 Up to =BC mile range with loud, clear audio for safe communication between vehicles=20 Voice-activated, Supervox system for hands-free use=20 Can be manually switched with push-to-talk button on unit=20 or with handlebar mount button=20 Noise-canceling microphones for optimum clarity and freedom from false triggering=20 Includes unique snap-apart driver headset plus an MO type=20 passenger headset for mounting on all helmets=20 No cutting, drilling or helmet modifications required=20 Small, rugged, lightweight units mount on belt (with removable clip) or slip into shirt pocket=20 Powered by self-contained battery or by vehicle battery with optional converter=20 90-day Limited Warranty by Nady Systems=20 Electronic touch controls - no knobs=20 ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman=20 http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 22:10:57 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12557 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:10:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rdt (207-172-53-141.s141.tnt4.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.53.141]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA26619; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:10:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003501bea653$ec482500$8d35accf@rdt> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX>, References: <199905241424.KAA12724@radagast.wizard.net> Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ [Update] Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:11:37 -0400 Organization: Attorney at Law X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Anita: If the weather is good my buddy Kevin an I will probably show up. Do you need anything? Roy D. Turner, Esq. ----- Original Message ----- From: Anita Lauro <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 10:20 AM Subject: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ [Update] > It looks like we'll have at least 10-12 people for the ride and BBQ > on 5/31, so there's still room for more! :-) Just let me know if you > think you'll be coming, so I make sure to get enough food! :-) > > I plan on starting the ride from Sterling, VA at around 9:00 am > (translation, the ride will leave at 9:30 am), and getting back around > 1:30-2:00 pm to start the BBQ. The ride will probably be about 150- > 175 miles. I put in a request for good weather, just so we won't > have to worry about rain! :-) > > I'll post directions to my house later on in the week... I'm really > looking forward to stirring up my neighborhood a bit! :-) > > Anita > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 22:27:47 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12863 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc2-s3.wizard.net [206.161.15.79]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA25970; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:27:41 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." , Subject: RE: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ [Update] Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:32:36 -0400 Message-ID: <000801bea656$d9b0e640$4f0fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003501bea653$ec482500$8d35accf@rdt> > -----Original Message----- > From: Roy D. Turner, Esq. [mailto:rdt@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 10:12 PM > To: Anita Lauro; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ [Update] > > > Anita: If the weather is good my buddy Kevin an I will probably show up. > Do you need anything? Roy, I'm hoping for good weather as well! :-) So far the only definite side dish is fresh salsa/chips, and some wicked sounding brownies.. so whatever you can bring would be great. I've got the grillable stuff covered, as well as non-alcoholic beverages. Should be a lot of fun! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 22:28:50 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12883 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:28:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA09037 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (209-122-205-216.s216.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.205.216]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA15824 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:28:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA17597 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:28:53 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma017595; Mon, 24 May 99 22:28:29 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990524222328.00bdf3e0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:28:21 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Leesburg Police Poker Run Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FYI - Remember I told you ZMan and I got pulled over in Leesburg? The flyer the MC cop gave us was about this poker run: Saturday June 5 Registration 9am to 11am Leesburg Police Dept 65 Plaza St, NE Leesburg 9:30am police excort leaves Last bike out at 11am, Last bike in at 3:00pm RAIN OR SHINE $10.00 per hand, benefits VA Special Olympics Prizes Include..... A ton of gift certificates to various bike shops ($30 to $100) A ton of restaurant gift certificates Skill cordless drill Free MC Battery 2 Artists prints Lube oil and filter (various shops) and a lot more. The cop said 160 turned out last year. Sounds like a good time! If you ride with the police escort, you get to blow all lights and stop signs See you there! _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 22:42:59 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13145 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA09182 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.wch.adelphia.net (alpha.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA15961 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gforeman (surf178.wch.adelphia.net [24.48.14.178]) by alpha.wch.adelphia.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA15878; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:42:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary Foreman" To: Cc: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Friends Electrical Help Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:42:08 -0400 Message-ID: <002d01bea658$2e873ba0$1406030a@gforeman.wch.adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 You won't believe it. I found the manual. Still in great shape. Genuine YAMAHA XS 1100 Models 1978-1980 If no one is close to Leesburg, send me your address, and I'll mail it. No charge. This is what friends are for. I do ask you let me know what his problem turned out to be. Just curious. Gary W. Foreman EMAIL: gforeman@XXXXXX WEB: http://www.fj1100.com '99-TL1000R | '88-KX250 | '85-FJ1100 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 24 22:59:03 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA13425 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA09296 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gecko.troutman.org (209-122-205-216.s216.tnt4.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.205.216]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA16163 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by gecko.troutman.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA17611; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:58:24 -0400 Received: from iguana(172.16.50.1) by gecko via smap (V2.1) id xma017609; Mon, 24 May 99 22:58:00 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990524225645.00bddae0@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:57:52 -0400 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Mike T Subject: I went to a Suzuki Motorcycle dealer today to check out the Hyabusa and... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >From the RiceBoy page...very funny.... http://www.riceboypage.com/messages/126.html _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 00:40:33 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15338 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA11299 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA17406 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:40:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.36]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:35:37 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Mike T" , Subject: RE: Leesburg Police Poker Run Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: <003a01bea668$1ae24a80$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <4.1.19990524222328.00bdf3e0@www.troutman.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal How does one get there from the Beltway? ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 00:50:34 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA15553 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.36]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.3.1) with SMTP id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 00:35:35 -0400 From: "George Howell" To: "Tom Zell" , Subject: RE: A Sunday afternoon excursion... Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 00:36:02 -0400 Message-ID: <003901bea668$18014aa0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <19990524151337793-14d0fba6@fanniemaefoundation.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal > All in all though it was a great trip and we racked up a nice 166 > miles (getting > us ready for longer trips over the summer... it's rough when you > have a mouse > pad for a seat). Next time I'll find some nice roads to run > through Southern > Maryland. The riding is great down there IMO and the farther you > go the flatter > the land gets meaning you can see a good distance. If you are going from 210 to Solomons, I can give you about a dozen better ways than you picked. Most will significantly add to your mileage, but the traffic is much better (doesn't get much worse than 301/5 on Sundays. Oh, yeah... The parking lot in front of Lowe's on Saturdays...) and the roads are much better also. The worst you have to look out for on the weekend are farm implements, but those are getting fewer and farther between (plus, if you stay around the right types of farms at the right times of year, there aren't any tractors). Best bet is to head east from 210 anywhere BUT 228/Berry Rd. I like the roads closer to Indian Head. They are not as curvy as the roads that cut through to White Plains, but it is safer to get around slow traffic. Other problem is cops on lower end of 210, but they aren't bad on the weekends. Mostly they hang out on Rt. 4 (got lucky you did. Used to be that area police trainees learned how to operate radar guns on Rt. 4) Once you get to La Plata, there's two choices. Head along the Port Tobacco River (great road. Even I can touch pegs on it. Watch out for that right hander...) or go down Rte. 6. If you go along Pt. Tob. River, you come out in Bel Alton, home of "Ape Hangers". Strangely enough, I haven't seen many sport bikes out front... Lots of pickup trucks when it rains though;) Cut across Bel Alton Newton road. Pick up rt. 6. Take rt. 6 down a ways. Take a right on... Name of the road escapes me. Anyway, heads over to 234. Take a left. Wave at the people at MIR and Budds Creek. (Avoid this route when the Nationals are at Budds Creek). Go through Chaptico. Gas up at Teddy Bear's (the bar on the corner). Get lunch across the street. It's a general store, but the parking lot is packed with road crews around lunch time. Not bad food. >From here, I'd take a left on 238. Follow to end. Take a right. Pass Margaret Brent Middle school. Take a left at the flashing light. Follow for several miles. Watch out for the lefthander towards the end. It gets slick. Spun my car into some guys fence once. Wasn't too upset about it. He said it happens all the time:) Follow to route 5. Take a right. You've cut about 20 miles worth of Rt. 5/US 301 out of your trip. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 01:43:29 1999 Return-Path: garicao@XXXXXX Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@XXXXXX [151.200.199.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA16362 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA02089; Tue, 25 May 1999 01:45:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 01:45:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: "Hugh A. Caldwell" cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Friend needs electrical help. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 May 1999, Hugh A. Caldwell wrote: [various snips] > > The recent tragic events: > My battery went dead, I charged it. Three days later it was dead again. > I purchased a new battery, charged it and rode to work the next day happy > as could be. The following morning, it was dead again. Charge battery. With key off, check for drain with ammeter in series with battery cable. > > I had noticed over the past few months that my headlight would dim while > braking and get brighter with increased rpms. I have very little > mechanical experience, but I am not an idiot. If pointed in the right > direction I can figure most things out. I do not have the manual for my > bike, an '80 XS Eleven Special. Don't remember about xs-11, but some of the old yamahas used carbon brushes, which wear out---check manual if available; brushes have wear limit line marked. I am not certain how motorcycles recharge > their batteries. Badly. > I have often heard of people replacing their voltage > regulators, could this be the problem? > Yes, replacing a voltage regulator without tracking down the cause of the dead battery could certainly be a problem. --garcia From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 10:01:26 1999 Return-Path: redbelly@XXXXXX Received: from helix.nih.gov (helix.nih.gov [128.231.2.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01184 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from boo.net ([156.40.49.10]) by helix.nih.gov (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA5606050; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:00:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <374AACC2.B3829CB3@boo.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:59:30 -0400 From: Jay Goddard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Brabner, Jessica, Ms., SARDA-IMO" , david g , kobrien , Mazen Fawaz , swifty , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: A new way to get out of Tickets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A young woman was pulled over for speeding. As the motorcycle officer walked to her car window, flipping open his ticket book, she said, "I bet you are going to sell me a ticket to the Highway Patrolmen's Ball." He replied, "Highway patrolmen don't have Balls." There was a moment of silence while she smiled, and he realized what he'd just said. He then closed his book, got back on his motorcycle and left. She was laughing too hard to start her car for several minutes. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 10:12:17 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA01373 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:12:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA17742 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA24420 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:12:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 287; Tue, 25 May 1999 10:12:23 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990525101028.01ba5b90@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 10:11:11 -0400 To: "George Howell" , From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: RE: Leesburg Police Poker Run In-Reply-To: <003a01bea668$1ae24a80$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> References: <4.1.19990524222328.00bdf3e0@www.troutman.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:36 AM 5/25/99 , George Howell wrote: >How does one get there from the Beltway? The easiest way to go is 495 to Tysons (7 West) and 7 straight out to Leesburg. I don't know where the police station is, but it is a pretty small town. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 12:59:13 1999 Return-Path: berman@XXXXXX Received: from min.net (root@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA04349 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:58:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from min.net (berman@XXXXXX [208.222.210.19]) by min.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07306 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:58:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:58:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Morris Berman To: DC Cycles Subject: Free Pking at Rockville Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone needing free covered parking in rockville... The Mont County courthouse garage has several free spaces for motorcycles, just ask the attendant. They are marked as such. -Mb ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Berman, berman@XXXXXX '96 Kawasaki GPz1100, '82 GS650GL (DoD #1237), Scuba, Skiing, AMA (M/C) #446884 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No one is responsible for what I say...well, OK, maybe me. Managers are like cats in a litter box. They're always rearranging trying to cover up what they've done. --Scott Adams From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 13:23:16 1999 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from stmpy.cais.net (stmpy.cais.net [199.0.216.101]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA04830 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:23:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wowbager (dynamic247.cl8.cais.net [205.177.20.247]) by stmpy.cais.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA09126 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:36:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990525131906.006b0b0c@mail.dc.net> X-Sender: wowbager@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:19:06 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Mike Subject: Re: A Sunday afternoon excursion... In-Reply-To: <19990524151337793-14d0fba6@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:12 PM 5/24/99 -0400, you wrote: > >(Sarcastic tone on) >Let me just praise DC on the lovely job they've done at keeping their roads in >tip top condition. (Sarcastic tone off). For a while I thought there was >something terribly wrong with the 750 and was ready to turn around and go home. >When we reached "real" pavement on MD 210, I knew everything was going to be ok. > Ahh,... Yes,... well actually the pavement in DC is up to spec according to the, "Marion Barry Speed reduction initiative". Wherein the city saves money on maintenance and speeding is impeded by the bumps and potholes..err... craters. Mike B. 98 ZX900R From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 13:27:32 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA04915 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:27:31 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA08619; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:28:26 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma008356; Tue, 25 May 99 13:27:13 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FCA00FOMTW7EY@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:28:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525677C.005FBA51 ; Tue, 25 May 1999 13:25:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:17:09 -0400 Subject: Test message... 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From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 14:24:57 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.118.93]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06070 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marconi.concentric.net (marconi [206.173.118.71]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id OAA00193; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:22:27 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by marconi.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id OAA11840; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:23:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:23:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Friend needs electrical help. Follow Up. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is a message Dave sent me... >Hugh, > I have been in touch with Gary and will be picking up the manual >today. Thanks for the help. Make sure the whole mailing list knows how >much I appreciate their help. > >Dave Thanks DC-Cycles, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 15:01:44 1999 Return-Path: granth@XXXXXX Received: from fedsco.sco.com (fedsco.sco.COM [132.147.168.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA06860 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from everex (everex.sco.COM [132.147.168.14]) by fedsco.sco.com (8.8.7/UW7.1.0) with ESMTP id OAA07545 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 14:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.37.19990525150203.00a68310@fedsco.sco.com> X-Sender: granth@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.37 (Beta) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:02:21 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Grant Heffernan Subject: this weekend Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello all, Anyone riding this weekend??? ********************************* Grant M. Heffernan Field Systems Engineer The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Reston, VA 20191 ph: (703) 715-8721 http://north.sco.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 15:30:29 1999 Return-Path: mark.petty@XXXXXX Received: from crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com ([208.138.226.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA07489 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:30:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by crpstva-msg-01.hscribe.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Tue, 25 May 1999 15:24:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mark Petty To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: guilty pleasures... Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 15:24:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain I can't help it, I'm entertained by watching truly squidly behavior. I know that I should be affronted, even outraged, in a PC kind of way, instead I just chuckle. This morning while waiting to turn on to Old Bridge Road out of my subdivision, some Kawasaki Ninja nationalist (his leathers were in company colors) saw me, and decided to display his riding prowess by popping a huge monster fookin' wheelie while in not quite bumper to bumper traffic smack in the middle of a 25mph school zone, and held it for about 40 or 50 yards. Insane, stupid, license-threatening, yes, but I chuckled almost all the way to work. -Mark '83 V65 Magna finding fun in all the stupid places... From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 16:11:57 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08230 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl33.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.175]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 6976100 ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:10:27 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "DC Cycles Mail List" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Something I heard... Message-Id: <199905252010.6976100@zzapp.org> Here is something that I heard this weekend that makes you wonder. It is funny to note that most sportbike riders ride in an $800.00 helmet while wearing shorts, tanktop and sneakers, while a harley rider will be in $800.00 worth of leathers wearing a peanut shell on their head. Makes you go "Hummmmmm......" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 16:25:43 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA08475 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id NAA12385 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Tue, 25 May 1999 13:25:15 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Tue, 25 May 1999 13:25:15 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DC Cycles Mail List Subject: RE: Something I heard... Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:25:12 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >while a harley rider will be in $800.00 worth of leathers Yeah, but the leather is decorative rather than functional (for the most part)... Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 16:28:53 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA08565 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:28:52 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (14408) by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2YPBa02629 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 16:25:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:25:25 EDT Subject: Re: Something I heard... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 And I'll bet they cover the same amount of miles in a day too! Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 17:26:46 1999 Return-Path: Turnip@XXXXXX Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA09621 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:26:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id RAA27070; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:26:36 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from mariner.concentric.net (mariner [206.173.119.83]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id RAA12020; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:26:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hugh A. Caldwell" To: Marvin Heilesen cc: DC Cycles Mail List Subject: Re: Something I heard... In-Reply-To: <199905252010.6976100@zzapp.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My housemate is fond of riding in a t-shirt with his $500+ helmet that matches his Ninja. I've tried to get him to come on some DC-Cycles rides but I don't think his ego can take the abuse. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 25 May 1999, Marvin Heilesen wrote: > Here is something that I heard this weekend that makes you > wonder. > > It is funny to note that most sportbike riders ride in an > $800.00 helmet while wearing shorts, tanktop and sneakers, while > a harley rider will be in $800.00 worth of leathers wearing a > peanut shell on their head. > > Makes you go "Hummmmmm......" > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Snake > a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen > '97 Shadow ACE 1100 > '78 Suzuki GS400 > ABATE/MRF/AMA > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 21:54:10 1999 Return-Path: lmeyer@XXXXXX Received: from mail2.MGFairfax.rr.com ([24.93.67.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14081 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 21:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.28.195.247]) by mail2.MGFairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Tue, 25 May 1999 21:52:58 -0400 Message-ID: <374B54C1.17C057BB@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:56:18 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Rolling Thunder? References: <4.1.19990228124402.00c94750@www.troutman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend wants me to ride in Rolling Thunder with her Sunday. I've never done it before. Is it worth doing? I get the impression it's a lot more cruiser-oriented than the typical DC Cycles ride. Thanks and I'll catch y'all soon. Larry Meyer Annandale, VA '97 Bandit 1200 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 22:19:04 1999 Return-Path: wowbager@XXXXXX Received: from brap-3.cais.net (brap-3.cais.net [205.252.14.37]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA14492 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:19:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from horse4 (ppp56.net-A.cais.net [205.252.61.56]) by brap-3.cais.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA16563 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 22:19:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001d01bea71d$ccfa52c0$a57cfea9@horse4> From: "Mike B." To: "DC-Cycles" References: <19990524151337793-14d0fba6@fanniemaefoundation.org> <4.2.0.37.19990525135820.00acba50@fedsco.sco.com> Subject: Re: A Sunday afternoon excursion... Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 22:16:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 ----- Original Message ----- From: Grant Heffernan To: Mike Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: Re: A Sunday afternoon excursion... > Are you guys serious??? Have you ever been to Boston? Believe me, DC's > streets are silky smooth in comparison (not that I ever ride in the city). > Heh heh heh ,, At least Boston has weather as an excuse. :-) Mike B. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 23:07:13 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15300 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:07:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from anita (tc2-s9.wizard.net [206.161.15.85]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA17426 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:07:09 -0400 From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: Subject: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ - Directions Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:12:05 -0400 Message-ID: <000201bea725$885430c0$550fa1ce@anita> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal Before I forget! :-) The plan for Memorial Day (Monday, May 31st) is to meet at my house around 9:00 am, and depart for a 150 mile or so ride by 9:30 am. The route hasn't been determined yet, but I'll come up with something fun! Looks like we'll have a fast paced group and a medium paced group, so just about everyone will be happy! I expect to be back by 1:30-2:00 pm to start the BBQ actitivies. Here are directions to my lovely home, located in picturesque Sterling, VA: >From Tyson's Corner, take Route 7 West for approximately 12 miles. Once you reach Sterling (you'll know when you get there), keep going until you pass the Sterling Boulevard intersection. Make a right at the next light after Sterling Blvd, onto Potomac View. Make a right at the second functioning traffic light, onto Sugarland Run Drive. Proceed past the 7-11/Citgo (good place to fuel up before the ride). Make a right at the third street after the 7-11, Greenfield Court. Follow Greenfield Court around to the cul-de-sac. 227 Greenfield Court will be on the right, a TH with grey vinyl siding and white windows. You can park either right in front of the house, or in the 'visitor parking' in the center of the cul-de-sac, or wherever you see a lot of bikes! :-) If you prefer to come up Rte 28, just take 28 until it ends at Route 7. Take Route 7 East (to the right) until you pass Northern Virginia Community College on the left. Potomac View is the next light. Make a left on Potomac View and follow the directions above. My home phone is 703-406-8046.. call if you get lost! :-) Hopefully we won't have to worry about rain, but if the weather is iffy you can call me to find out what's up. Anita From dc-cycles-request Tue May 25 23:08:17 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (thehub.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA15310 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:08:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-65.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.65]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA23261 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 23:08:15 -0400 Message-ID: <0dfc01bea724$df907480$53a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: Subject: Re: Back from Kansas City Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:07:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Noteworthy! And you must tell us -- are you standing or lying as you write? Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> 2200 in 48? Puff puff. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. -----Original Message----- From: Horkster To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Monday, May 24, 1999 11:50 AM Subject: Back from Kansas City >Hey all! > >I did it! Got back safe and sound last night from Kansas City. > >More details later. Essentially it was a totally uneventful >2200 mile round trip. > >Dale > >-- >Dale Horstman (The Horkster) >horkster@XXXXXX >Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > >"I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet >sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" >-- > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 05:12:41 1999 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA22558 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 05:12:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust015.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.15]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id FAA26812 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 05:12:38 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990526051041.006affac@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 05:10:41 -0400 To: dc-cycles From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder? In-Reply-To: <374B54C1.17C057BB@mgfairfax.rr.com> References: <4.1.19990228124402.00c94750@www.troutman.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:56 PM 5/25/99 -0400, Larry Meyer wrote: >A friend wants me to ride in Rolling Thunder with her Sunday. I've never done >it before. Is it worth doing? I get the impression it's a lot more >cruiser-oriented than the typical DC Cycles ride. I'd recommend it. It isn't a DC Cycles type ride at all. It's a parade and people gathering. Everyone should attend an event like this a few times in their lives. I've been to it twice, and will again someday, but not this year. Leon. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 07:13:09 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA24416 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA16249 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (2616) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 6AIGa15563; Wed, 26 May 1999 06:53:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:53:32 EDT Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder? To: lmeyer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Some would say that it is a "cruiser-oriented" event, but I saw quiet a variety of bikes last year. It's not a DC-Cycles type ride at all. This is more of a parade, and ends at the Vietnam War memorial. No high speeds or twisties. I enjoyed it last year, and I'm going again this year. In fact, a large group from the Shadowriders list is meeting at the Right to Work building parking lot near Springfield. Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 08:15:18 1999 Return-Path: jmoran@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA25744 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loudoun.com (leesburg-131.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with ESMTP id <0FCC00M6MA0TAK@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 08:24:25 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Subject: FS-'92 Suzuki GSF400 Bandit To: DC cycles list Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX Message-id: <374BE7F1.DC34C8DA@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en FS-'92 Suzuki GSF400 Bandit 400cc, Red, 24K miles, w/ solo seat cover and Suzuki shop manual. Excellent commuter, back road scratcher, a bike that is fun for beginner and experienced motorcyclist alike. This one is in beautiful shape. It has been down once, in a parking lot, and has some scuffs on the right side engine cover to prove it. I have the Suzuki parts to fix but haven't gotten around to it. It could also use a new chain. Some of you may recognize this bike from the last ride out to Front Royal. A lovely picture of this very bike may be seen here: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/7119/bandit1.jpg I want to buy an F3 to replace my aging ZX7 racer, so the Bandit must go. The first $2300, or maybe even less than that, takes it. You can reach me by email, Randy.Moran@XXXXXX or rajmoran@XXXXXX (703) 327-6348 (H) (703) 648-0122 (W) From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 08:50:17 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA26813 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 08:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id FAA20137 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 26 May 1999 05:50:07 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 26 May 1999 05:50:07 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: dc-cycles Subject: RE: Rolling Thunder? Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 05:50:05 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >A friend wants me to ride in Rolling Thunder... >Is it worth doing? An alternative to baking in the parking lot is to go down to the Wall and watch the bikes roll in. I've ridden the event a few times, and want to station myself near the ride terminus with a video camera someday and record the pack as it rolls in Whatever you do, it's an experience Michael (Tan Son Nhut, '65-'66) J. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 09:08:30 1999 Return-Path: zellto@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA27096 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:08:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from zellto (adsl-151-200-16-190.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA21536 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000d01bea779$702f9300$be10c897@bellatlantic.net> From: "Thomas and Jeannette" To: "dc-cycles" References: Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder? Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:12:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 If you do go make sure that your bike is water cooled as some air cooled bikes tend to have trouble (overheat) in the slower, more tightly compacted areas of the parade. I took my CB750F drag bike to Rolling Thunder back in '95 and made it about 3/4's of the way before the engine just quit. There was smoke coming out of the crankcase vents and all that good stuff. I thought I had locked it up but after about an hour of cooling down (and a couple of beers provided by the local Harley contingency... they said this happens a lot) she started back up again. Tom '86 VFR750 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jordan, Michael To: dc-cycles Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 8:50 AM Subject: RE: Rolling Thunder? > >A friend wants me to ride in Rolling Thunder... > > >Is it worth doing? > > An alternative to baking in the parking lot is to go down to the Wall and > watch the bikes roll in. > > I've ridden the event a few times, and want to station myself near the ride > terminus with a video camera someday and record the pack as it rolls in > > Whatever you do, it's an experience > > Michael (Tan Son Nhut, '65-'66) J. > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 10:01:54 1999 Return-Path: Perry_Coleman@XXXXXX Received: from na-ex-bridge2.nai.com (na-ex-bridge2.nai.com [208.228.228.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA27996 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by na-ex-bridge2.nai.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Wed, 26 May 1999 07:05:58 -0700 Message-ID: <447A3F40A07FD211BA2700A0C99D759B0DC94D@md-exchange1.nai.com> From: "Coleman, Perry" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FS: 1986 Kawasaki Concours (ZG1000-A1) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:58:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain All, I am (hopefully) picking up a "new" 1992 Kawasaki Concours in New York tomorrow. If so, then I am going to need to sell my 1986 Concours. Some specifics: Asking $2,400.00/obo Color is "Pearl Cosmic Grey" (or somesuch marketing color) or "Silverdammit" as some like to call it. 997cc 16-valve 4 cylinder 42,500 miles (as of this morning) New Metzler radials installed in March (at Art Crow's shop) Just had full tune-up, including Valve adjust and Carb Sync (at CAD in G'burg) Rifle Fairing & 15" shield Storz handlebar conversion with Daytona Touring bars Corbin Dual Canyon seat, with backrest, re-upholstered 1.5 years ago with "Saddlegel" pad added to drivers portion Tank half-bra Right side of bike was damaged in a get-off 2.5 years (and about 16,000 miles) ago - all plastic bits replaced. Frame has been checked for true, by Computrak, and is OK. Tank has small dent near where the fairing crosses it. Newer model (pebble finish) bags have replaced the originals. Original left bag (in good condition) and right bag (in bad condition) are available. While the bike may not be in perfect cosmetic condition, it is in very good condition, overall. The silverdammit color really hides the dirt, which is nice when you ride the bike almost every day. I am the third owner of the bike. The first owner made most of the customizations, the second owner let the bike sit in a barn and (other than the mishap mentioned above) I have tried to keep the bike up. In the process I have ridden the bike for over 21,000 trouble-free miles the last three years. I asked Chris (the mechanic at CAD) what he thought after he tuned it last week and he said it's running great. I agree... ;^) Seriously, though, the bike is in excellent mechanical condition. The bike is a wonderful sport-touring motorcycle that is also superb for commuting in this area. I routinely commuted from Gaithersburg to downtown DC on the bike with no problems, except maybe getting hot (me, not the bike) in stop and go summer afternoon traffic. If you've made it this far, you can respond to this e-mail address, which is my work and I may, or may not be able to check over the holiday weekend, or you can respond to my personal e-mail, perry@XXXXXX, which I will be able to check. Or, you can do it the old-fashioned way and call my home # 301-840-1345, my mobile phone # 202-262-9696 or my office at 301-947-7180. Regards, Perry From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 10:22:42 1999 Return-Path: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from bmdo.mcri.com (root@[207.124.52.19]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28409 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:22:38 -0400 (EDT) From: jnewman@XXXXXX Received: from jnewman ([192.168.13.162]) by bmdo.mcri.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA07428 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:24:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199905261324.JAA07428@bmdo.mcri.com> To: dc-cycles Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:16:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Crow Bar Block Party Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Hello all, Is anyone from the list planning on stopping by the Crow bar Block party this saturday? Gates open at 12:00. There will be a couple of bands, and a bunch of vendors. You can get all the details at: http://www.crowbardc.com/blockparty/next.htm I think it might be fun to stop by, and even though i'm riding my FZR, [ lets hope they don't want to start roasting Jap bikes] I think it might be fun to check out. BTW, I was tolerated last year when I took part in a portion of the "ride to the wall" on my 2 stroke DT 50... What was i thinking? Hope to see you there... -John Newman Red FZR 400 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 10:39:03 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailprime.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA28746 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:36:53 EDT Message-Id: <199905261036.AA957284650@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, mobacc@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Back from Kansas City X-Mailer: ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "mobacc" Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 23:07:21 -0400 > Noteworthy! And you must tell us -- are you standing or lying > as you write? -------------------------------------------------------------- Surprisingly, I survived this trip with fewer ill effects than my first SaddleSore of a year ago. Last year, my hands were numb and I had no grip strength in my throttle hand for a week or so afterwards. As with most of the longer rides I've taken, my knees start aching from the Connie riding position LONG before my tail section starts hurting. With a set of highway pegs, this bike might be actually comfortable for long distance riding. :) Dale -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 10:57:40 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29077 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:57:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA00726 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FCC00O1RH9UX2@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:51:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta01.mcit.com (omzmta01.mcit.com [166.37.194.119]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA11646 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:50:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.44.166.205]) by omzmta01.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990526145124.IULL657@toddnt> for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:51:24 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:48:38 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: FW: XL250R To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <000701bea786$d6dda9e0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal FYI > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-hsta@XXXXXX [mailto:owner-hsta@XXXXXX] > On Behalf Of Tom Catron > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 3:49 PM > To: Honda Sport Touring Association > Subject: FS: XL250R > > > 1986 Honda XL250R > $1050 > Street legal/dual purpose > New tires > Recent tune-up > Very good condition > VTEC thumper, lotsa fun! > > Can deliver if not too far. > > Tom > STOC/HSTA > Nashville, TN > > -- > ===================================================== > Thomas Catron, Ph.D. > Executive Director & Assistant Professor > Vanderbilt Mental Health Center > 1500 21st Ave. S., Suite 2200 > Nashville, TN 37212 > V: (615) 343-7123 F: (615) 343-9038 > > Co-Director > Center for Psychotherapy Research & Policy, > Vanderbilt Institute for Public Policy Studies > 1207 18th Avenue South > Nashville, TN 37212 > > tom.catron@XXXXXX > www.vanderbilt.edu/VIPPS/Psycho/people/catronbio.html > ===================================================== > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 10:57:44 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA29081 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay02.mcit.com (beta.mcit.com [199.249.19.244]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA00727 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 10:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay2.mcit.com ([166.37.172.6]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38417) with ESMTP id <0FCC00F14H9NAB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:51:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta01.mcit.com (omzmta01.mcit.com [166.37.194.119]) by ndcrelay2.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA02554 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:47:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.44.166.205]) by omzmta01.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990526145122.IUKL657@toddnt> for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:51:22 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:48:35 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: FW: 4 MORE DAYS TILL THE BLOCK PARTY To: DC-Cycles Message-id: <000601bea786$d53f8a40$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal FYI > -----Original Message----- > From: Staff of Crow Bar [mailto:crowbar@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 2:22 PM > To: Todd Peer > Subject: 4 MORE DAYS TILL THE BLOCK PARTY > > > Where do I start. > > Just 4 more days till the CROW BAR MEMORIAL BLOCK PARTY PARTY!!! > > If you would like any more general information, go to the site > http://www.crowbardc.com > > I've been asked if it is only going to be a 'Harley-only' event? > Well, the > answer is of course NO. > The Crow Bar never cared if you rode a Harley or a Honda, a Buell > or a BMW. > We think that all people that ride motorcycles are created equal and > everyone else can PISS OFF!! > > If you have any other questions about the party, please drop me a line > (crowbar@XXXXXX). I try to check the mail every day even > though my head has been cut off. > > To All DC Locals: > > So it has been a month since I last talked about this. > Lots of new clubs opening up (2-K-9, Brass Monkey, etc..), and I've tried > them all. They still don't make me fell comfortable when I walk in (I > won't even start on the music the djs play). > So I have found a place to do my own party (finally). > Starting Saturday, May 12, I will be hosting a party at 2134 Pennsylvania > Ave., North West, Washington. > That is a restaurant called PANGEA. > The name of the party is ASPIRIN 2134. > I have lined up Paul Cicchetti (one of the owners of Flying Saucer Discs > record store) to dj. He will be > spinning a mix of rock n roll dance music. What he will not be playing is > the top-40 rock hiNRG soul funk > CRAP that you hear on WHFS, DC101, KISS, Z104 AND WPGC. You may hear the > bands but not the > top-40 hits. I figure I have missed out on a lot of cool music by > listening to this stations. > Andreas Lechner will be bartending. > Big Mike (Mike Sears) will be greating you at the door. > Opening night, May 12, there will be NO COVER. Doors will open > at 9:00pm. > So come on down and check > it out. Every week after that, the cover charge will be $5 starting at > 10:00pm (I have to have someway to pay > Paul, Mike and Andreas). > > Finally, I have been requested to generate interest in a new > section of the > Washington City Paper. A possible > name could be SOAPBOX. It would be a place that people could say anything > they want. Kind of like an > editorial but guaranteed that it would get printed. Imagine if a section > like that was around when BUZZ got > shut down. > If you think it's a good idea, send some mail to Sheri Simon > (ssimon@XXXXXX) classified sales manager > at the City Paper. Tell her you would love to have a section in the > classifieds called SOAPBOX where you can > voice your opinion and say anything you want. > > Todd, hope to see you this Saturday, > Bill Spieler > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 11:30:58 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA29662 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:30:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA03575 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:30:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA07391 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA27682 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [209.48.224.40]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA25537 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:25:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Dawn Gibson To: DC Cycles Subject: Rolling Thunder Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for opinions here. I was considering riding in Rolling Thunder for the first time this year but I'm increasingly concerned about my air cooled easy bake oven... errrr I mean 1100cc VTwin. I'd hate to turn it into toast and it's supposed to be in the 80s on Sunday. I'm also a bit concerned about nonstop clutch and throttle play since both of my wrists are long gone with carpal. I had problems with them in the Law Ride and that was a short one. Opinions will be noted and appreciated Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX '96 Virago 1100 Special [KnowMad] From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 11:51:13 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00223 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:49:13 -0400 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 26 May 1999 11:49:12 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:46:40 -0400 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX Subject: Something I heard... -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Maybe the two groups should get together and share transplant lists. :-) Joe (Ninja, Shovelhead, $1000 in helmets, $2000 in leathers) >>> "Marvin Heilesen" - 5/25/99 4:12 PM >>> Here is something that I heard this weekend that makes you wonder. It is funny to note that most sportbike riders ride in an $800.00 helmet while wearing shorts, tanktop and sneakers, while a harley rider will be in $800.00 worth of leathers wearing a peanut shell on their head. Makes you go "Hummmmmm......" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 12:06:22 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00524 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08133 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:06:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bluice101@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29145 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Bluice101@XXXXXX (14376) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vWMDa02577 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:06:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:06:04 EDT Subject: Rolling Thunder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 I have ridden a Virago 750 to Rolling Thunder or 3 years straight and I find the engine, even though very hot never went into melt down. And promptly after the event had the oil changed. As far as carpal tunnel. That's a whole different bag of beans. Last year I noticed at the last leg of the entrance where I thought things were the most sticky people were pushing there bikes in neutral until able to ride freely. The parade went steady enough throughout the city so that shouldn't bother you. enjoy Debbie 98 royal star bluice101@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 12:15:11 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00743 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA08291 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay03.mcit.com (omzrelay03.mcit.com [199.249.19.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA29521 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:15:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38418) with ESMTP id <0FCC0003JL092P@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:12:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta03.mcit.com (omzmta03.mcit.com [166.37.194.121]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id QAA14041; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:11:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.44.172.201]) by omzmta03.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990526161207.VYZ1839@toddnt>; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:12:07 +0000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:09:20 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: Rolling Thunder In-reply-to: To: Dawn Gibson , DC Cycles Message-id: <001001bea792$1d32e0d0$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal I'm also > a bit concerned about nonstop clutch and throttle play since both of my > wrists are long gone with carpal. I had problems with them in the Law > Ride and that was a short one. > > Opinions will be noted and appreciated > > Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX > '96 Virago 1100 Special [KnowMad] > You may want to consider Mike Jordans idea and just meet the riders at the wall. This ride will totally tax your clutch hand. Wouldn't worry too terribly much about the engine overheating (you can always just pull over) Todd From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 13:43:26 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA02458 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:43:24 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id NAA27541; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:44:21 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma027304; Wed, 26 May 99 13:43:48 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FCC005OBPBVDG@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:45:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525677D.00613FB8 ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:42:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:30:52 -0400 Subject: RE: Rolling Thunder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525677D.0060D605.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL A few questions: Is there a website with info about Rolling Thunder? Are sportbikes discouraged from joining? (Mine's a v-twin - does that count for anything? :^)) What time will the procession arrive at the wall? I assume this is on Memorial Day. Is this correct or is it on Sunday? Thanks, Chris Weaver 98 VTR ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 14:00:02 1999 Return-Path: Bluice101@XXXXXX Received: from imo25.mx.aol.com (imo25.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.69]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA02872 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:00:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Bluice101@XXXXXX Received: from Bluice101@XXXXXX (540) by imo25.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2HIUa14682 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:59:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:59:20 EDT Subject: rolling thunder To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Every year I see all types of bike there. I think if sport bikes are not welcome by all I know they are welcome by most... The ride is on Sunday website: http://www.3dnet.com/americapie/html/rolling_thunder.html enjoy deb walker 98 Royal Star bluice101@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 14:16:20 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03261 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:16:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10181 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:16:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from portal1.visa.com (portal1.visa.com [198.80.42.2]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA03313 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by portal1.visa.com id LAA19359 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 4.2 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX); Wed, 26 May 1999 11:16:13 -0700 Received: by portal1.visa.com (Protected-side Proxy Mail Agent-1); Wed, 26 May 1999 11:16:13 -0700 Message-Id: From: "Jordan, Michael" To: DC Cycles Subject: RE: Rolling Thunder Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:16:10 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >... but I'm increasingly concerned about my air cooled... >I'm also a bit concerned about nonstop clutch and throttle >play since both of my wrists are long gone with carpal. The Ride part is quite short - one solution is to wait until the parking lot is essentially empty before you start up and leave. Most of the clutch work and baking is in the queue to leave the lot - once you're on the road, I've found the pace to be pretty steady. Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 14:20:31 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA03377 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA10242 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:20:27 -0400 (EDT) From: ddiefend@XXXXXX Received: from E-MAIL.COM (e-mail.com [204.146.168.195]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA03457 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by E-MAIL.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via spool with SMTP id 1209 ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:20:21 4 E Received: from mail1.dominionsc.com [32.72.67.7] by imxgate.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:19:56 5 E Received: by mail1.dominionsc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 8525677D.0064DD54 ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:21:42 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: DSC To: xl-list@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525677D.0064DBA5.00@mail1.dominionsc.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 14:19:50 -0400 Subject: National Round Up Rally Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I saw this rally listed in the HOG schedule for Aug 4 -7 in Easily, SC. It apparently is not a HOG event..... does anyone know what it is? Thanks, Dave From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 15:12:19 1999 Return-Path: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04420 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:12:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Lordorange@XXXXXX Received: from Lordorange@XXXXXX (14452) by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2TDVa02623 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:11:28 EDT Subject: track day tickets finally on sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 Summit Point has *finally* executed the contract agreement with Loudoun Motorsports. So, at long last, track day tickets are now on sale for the track day on Wednesday, June 17th. Ticket prices are now $115 and will be $125 if you choose to buy them at the gate on the 17th. Again, requirements: safety wire oil drain plug, replace coolant with distilled water, tape/remove lights, speedo, any glass, etc., proper riding attire (leathers, 2 pair jeans, kevlar, etc.) Please call Scott at Loudoun Motorsports at 703-777-1652 for any additonal info. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 15:58:51 1999 Return-Path: rx7turbo1@XXXXXX Received: from mail.rdc1.md.home.com (imail@XXXXXX [24.2.2.66]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA05400 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:58:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from home.com ([24.3.22.241]) by mail.rdc1.md.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990526195847.VSPD26054.mail.rdc1.md.home.com@XXXXXX> for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 12:58:47 -0700 Message-ID: <374C51EF.A16C956A@home.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:56:31 -0400 From: Brad Scott Organization: @Home Network X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en]C-AtHome0404 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: unsubscribe References: <199905261324.JAA07428@bmdo.mcri.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 16:38:06 1999 Return-Path: snake69@XXXXXX Received: from zzapp.org (zzapp.org [206.165.125.1]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06361 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:38:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl38.zzapp.org ([206.165.125.180]) by zzapp.org with SMTP (IPAD 1.52) id 7328000 ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:36:24 EST From: "Marvin Heilesen" To: "dc-cycles" Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:37:34 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Marvin Heilesen" Priority: Normal X-Mailer: PMMail 2.00.1500 for OS/2 Warp 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199905261324.JAA07428@bmdo.mcri.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Crow Bar Block Party Message-Id: <199905262036.7328000@zzapp.org> On Wed, 26 May 1999 10:16:41 -0400, jnewman@XXXXXX wrote: >Hello all, > >Is anyone from the list planning on stopping by the Crow >bar Block party this saturday? I was planning on stopping by. Too bad I will be on my bike and cannot enjoy my favorite malted grain beverage. I don't drink and ride. >Gates open at 12:00. There will be a couple of bands, >and a bunch of vendors. > >You can get all the details at: > >http://www.crowbardc.com/blockparty/next.htm If you look at the prices part, I GET IN FREE! The cost to veterans is $0.00 so I guess I get something for my 14 years (actually, that is the date I hit the 14 year mark). >I think it might be fun to stop by, and even though i'm >riding my FZR, [ lets hope they don't want to start >roasting Jap bikes] I think it might be fun to check out. > >BTW, I was tolerated last year when I took part in a >portion of the "ride to the wall" on my 2 stroke DT 50... If I can ride in the middle of the "Wild Pigs MC" on my '78 GS400 for the law ride, I can show up there on my Honda. Of course, it is a little different being a cruiser, but I have been noticing that about 50% of the bikes at the biker bars are jap cruisers. And a few of those crotch-rocket things thrown in.... :) See everyone Saturday, maybe..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Snake a.k.a. Marvin Heilesen '97 Shadow ACE 1100 '78 Suzuki GS400 ABATE/MRF/AMA From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 16:55:15 1999 Return-Path: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com (imo20.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA06695 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:55:13 -0400 (EDT) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX (3962) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id vKPYa02681; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:53:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:53:28 EDT Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Check out http://shadow.newspeak.org/scrc/thunder.html This is from the Shadowriders list and the Southern Cruisers. Sportbikes are encouraged to come (the ride isn't about brand name or style). I rode my beat up old Nighthawk last year and felt right at home amongst the variety of bikes. There will be alot of Harleys, but then there almost always is alot of them on these charity parade type rides. No comment as to why! ;) Robert VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 "Black Wolf" From dc-cycles-request Wed May 26 22:50:30 1999 Return-Path: jbroga@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA12963 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from default (sterling2-14.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FCD006J1EJO2M@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 26 May 1999 22:50:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:42:44 -0700 From: jambroga Subject: VTR1000 for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <000701bea803$bea7f880$0e2dbccc@default> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0810.800 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 X-Priority: 3 I am selling my 98 VTR1000F. It is a great street bike in excellent shape. 5k mi. Wolf Racing carbon fiber high mount exhaust imported from Britian (under seat exit a la Ducati) only a couple dozen like it in US. It still allows pass. pegs to be mounted if desired. TBR pegs, 15t front sprocket. The bike is quick, fast and comfortable. Totally easy to ride and sounds great. I never thought I would want to sell this bike but since I have started racing I just don't ride on the street as much anymore, and of course racing is a money pit so I can use the dough. The pipes alone were bought for $1000 so I think $6800 is a good price. VTR's seem to be sort of dime a dozen, but the pipes really set this one apart. anyone interested can email me at jbroga@XXXXXX. Thanks Jonathan From dc-cycles-request Thu May 27 00:34:59 1999 Return-Path: bigredsled@XXXXXX Received: from web802.mail.yahoo.com (web802.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.62]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA14818 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990527043422.1692.rocketmail@web802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [128.8.23.40] by web802.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 26 May 1999 21:34:22 PDT Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 21:34:22 -0700 (PDT) From: s s Subject: Blast and D@#$! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Some idiot cager backed into my Concours tonight and knocked it over. Busted the right mirror. Anybody gotta right mirror for an '88 Concours they're willing to part with? Thanks, Spence..... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 27 09:24:50 1999 Return-Path: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net (chi6-1.relay.mail.uu.net [199.171.54.98]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24501 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:24:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeannette_Zell@XXXXXX Received: from 172.16.2.37 by chi6sosrv11.alter.net with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: user252.shawpittman.com [208.200.185.252]) id QQgrab20561 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:24:28 GMT Received: by 172.16.2.37(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (733.2 10-16-1998)) id 8525677E.004A6745 ; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:32:41 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SPPT cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8525677E.004A6705.00@172.16.2.37> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:16:25 -0400 Subject: How Do You Rate? LOL Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Did You Know... According to the Progressive Insurance Motorcycle Survey... give me a man with a kickstand Asked to rate themselves on a scale on 1 to 10 people who ride motorcycles on average said that they are more romantic than people who do not ride a motorcycle (7 was the average for motorcyclists, 5 for non-cyclists). People who rode their bike every day reported an average score of 8, while people who rode weekends reported an average of 6. A pocket protector, a programmers guide and pure heat Since the beginning of time people have been in search of two things; The Holy Grail, and a computer programmer who can make anyone's search engine hummmm. Computer programmers who ride motorcycles rated themselves three times more romantic compared to those programmers who do not ride a motorcycle. (9 for motorcyclists, 3 for non-cyclists) So you're looking for a doctor who cares Doctors who ride motorcycles rated themselves twice as romantic (average rating: 8) than those doctors who don't ride a motorcycle (average rating: 4) What's wrong big, rough tough motorcycle man, did you just watch Casablanca? How's this for an image buster? Motorcyclists were five times as likely to cry during romantic movies than those folks who have never ridden a bike. However, the most reported movie that made motorcyclists cry was The Lion King. A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet as gasoline 62% of men who ride motorcycles said that they are moved by poetry, while only 23% of men who don't ride motorcycles were moved by the words of poetry. Accountants who ride motorcycles were seven times as likely to be moved by poetry than accountants who don't ride a bike. Speaking of flowers ... The average number of days in a year motorcyclists reported giving flowers was 5. The average number for non-cyclists was 2. Even accountants Accountants who ride motorcycles were seven times as likely to say that they are moved by poetry than those who don't ride a bike. (77% of motorcyclists versus 11% of non-bikers) Riding the Web 69% of motorcyclists said that they regularly use the Internet. The number one thing that they are most often doing on the Web -- visiting chat rooms. Life's Biggest Thrill 64% of motorcyclists said that their biggest thrill in life was their kids -- compared to only 23% of those who don't ride a motorcycle. The number one answer for those people who didn't ride a motorcycle was personal success. Charity In general, motorcycle riders reported giving more time to charity than those who do not ride a motorcycle. In addition, lawyers who ride motorcycles reported doing something for charity an average of 8 days a year, compared to 2 days a year for non-cyclists. What Makes People Happy 55% of motorcyclists said that money was not essential to happiness compared to 13% of those who do not ride a motorcycle. Surprisingly, lawyers who ride motorcycles were the group least likely to answer that they needed money for happiness. Opie and Crying Motorcyclists were four times as likely to admit to having cried during an episode of Andy Griffith than those who don't ride a motorcycle. Accountants who ride motorcycles were the number one group to have cried during an Andy Griffith episode. Dream Vacation Venice and the Redwoods were the top dream destinations of motorcyclists, followed by Disney World. Those who do not ride a motorcycle picked Las Vegas as their number one vacation spot. TV Motorcyclists show a clear pension for dramatic television, especially when compared to the favorites of men who do not ride motorcycles. Favorite TV Shows of Cyclists Favorite TV Shows of Non-cyclists 1. Melrose Place 1. 60 Minutes 2. Ally McBeal 2. Friends 3. NYPD Blue 3. Everybody Loves Raymond 4. ER 4. Monday Night Football 5. Felicity 5. The Drew Carey Show The Passion of Entertainment Movies Saving Private Ryan just can't beat Shakespeare in Love, even among men on bikes. By the way, if a man is going to take you to a chick-flick, make sure he takes you on a bike. Favorite Movies of Motorcyclists Favorite Movies of Non-Cyclists 1. Shakespeare In Love 1. Terminator II 2. It's A Wonderful Life 2. Star Wars 3. Jerry McGuire 3. Saving Private Ryan 4. Prince of Tides 4. The Godfather 5. Titanic 5. Airplane *28. Easy Rider was ranked 21st among cyclists. Heroes Cyclists Would Like To Be Non-Cyclists Would Like To Be 1. Paul Newman 1. Bill Gates 2. Tony Soprano (HBO Show) 2. Michael Jordan 3. George Bailey (It's A Wonderful Life) 3. Tiger Woods 4. Clint Eastwood 4. Gordon Gecko 5. David Wells 5. Bill Clinton /Jean-Claude Van Damme 6. Oprah Winfrey* 7. Judge Judy *Surprisingly, of those motorcyclists choosing Oprah, 75% of them were doctors. SOURCE Progressive Insurance - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 27 12:08:31 1999 Return-Path: 2xracers@XXXXXX Received: from radagast.wizard.net (root@XXXXXX [206.161.15.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27862 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Anita.dlt.com ([199.4.241.102]) by radagast.wizard.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA24788 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:08:37 -0400 Message-Id: <199905271608.MAA24788@radagast.wizard.net> From: "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:09:57 -0400 Subject: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ - A couple notes... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Some people have been asking what to bring.. the only "definites" we have so far is salsa/chips, potato salad, coleslaw, and some awesome looking brownies. Other than that it's pretty wide open! Some other ideas might be pasta salad, chips, pretzels, cookies, etc. Knowing this group, whatever gets brought will get eaten! :-) If anyone who's coming to the ride/BBQ has a copy of the May/June issue of Motorcycle Times that they are done with, I'd really appreciate it if you'd bring it along. For some reason Cycle Sport never got them, and I need to update the Yahoo! Calendar with June events. A warning in case anyone is scared of dogs, or allergic to them.. I do have two greyhounds (and one cat who will probably be hiding the whole day). The dogs are both extremely friendly and I'm sure they'll be soaking up any attention they can get. The only danger may be to your food! :-) I guess that's it... see you on Monday! :-) Anita From dc-cycles-request Thu May 27 14:30:08 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA00907 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:30:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA27950 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:30:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA07997 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from flf960r1.ems.att.com ([135.71.244.37]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id OAA21050 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:29:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140bh2.ems.att.com by flf960r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id OAA26783; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by njb140bh2.ems.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:29:34 -0400 Message-ID: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE36A42B@vae820po01.nova.att.com> From: "Carver, John M, BGM" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Germany Pix Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:29:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Hey all, I've finally found the time to upload 3 pix from Germany to the following DC cycles friendly server: ftp://ftp.wheatintl.com/incoming/dc-cycles/ I chose only 3 because I didn't want to abuse the privilege. Later. . . John From dc-cycles-request Thu May 27 18:36:46 1999 Return-Path: fwegerich@XXXXXX Received: from penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.134]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA05658 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from earthlink.net (ip44.leesburg4.va.pub-ip.psi.net [38.30.171.44]) by penguin.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28181 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374DC98A.F58238AF@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 18:39:07 -0400 From: Frank Wegerich X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: CD-ROM for the Garmin GPSIII+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there anyone out there from which I could borrow the "MapSource U.S. Roads and Recreation (CD-ROM for the Garmin III+)? Seems as if I misplaced mine .... (-: Thank you Frank From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 08:07:37 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA21785 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 05:07:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: Anitas May 31 BBQ Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 05:07:23 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) So, it seems that once again I need to leach off someone who has it more together than myself. I'm not positive that I'll have my VFR back (it's supposed to be on the dyno at Fast Lanes today.. but I'm not going to count on them). Anyway, I'm looking for a lift to and from Anitas gathering.. and home again. I'm in MD, near College Park... should anyone be driving by, I'd really appreciate the ride. thanks.. Brian From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 08:46:03 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22929 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:46:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA10183 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA28046 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140r1.ems.att.com ([135.65.202.58]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MS-2.2) with ESMTP id IAA10955 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from njb140bh2.ems.att.com by njb140r1.ems.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/ATTEMS-1.4.1 sol2) id IAA13252; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:42:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by njb140bh2.ems.att.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 08:45:41 -0400 Message-ID: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE36A62E@vae820po01.nova.att.com> From: "Carver, John M, BGM" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Location of . . . Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:45:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Anyone know off hand where the Ellicot City court house is? I have to show up in court for a traffic ticket and I am not sure of the location. TIA. John 98VFR From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 09:50:02 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24614 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:50:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10866 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:49:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29139 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:49:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [209.249.185.69]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 411 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:49:42 -0400 Message-Id: <4.1.19990528094845.00abb370@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:49:40 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: This morning's idiot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Had to relay this morning's encounter. Landscaping truck and trailer full of mowers pulling into right turn lane on 2 lane road. I have to turn right as well. They come to a stop in the right turn lane, I have no idea why, so I signal back into normal lane. Landscaping truck, still with right signal on turns left in front of me to pull U-turn. I hit horn and came to a stop about a foot from the driver's door. Asshole is yelling at me as if it were my fault. I let him know what kind of person I thought he was, then escaped. Fortunately I was expecting him to do something stupid. Situation just didn't feel right. If I had been doing my normal speed, they would have found my body about 50 yards away. MT ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 09:55:47 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA24644 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA04243 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:55:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Sunday dirt ride Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'll be riding off road again this sunday and thought I'd make another open invitation. I'll probably start about 2:00pm and ride for about three hours (which is about equivalent to about 15 street hours... :) ). The starting point is College Park with the riding area being in Beltsville/Laurel. If you've got a non street legal bike this is a place you can trailer the bike to. Many trails, open areas, jumps, etc. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 10:21:52 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25237 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA11314 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA29714 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) with SMTP; 28 May 1999 17:22:52 UT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:20 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:This morning's idiot Message-ID: <19990528102240960-28600ce3@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I had about the same trouble with a guy in a mini-van this morning. I pulled out onto George Mason Dr. behind him (I was in view of his mirror the whole time) and proceeded to get in the lane next to him and go around and just as I'm pulling through he decides that he wants the left lane and just about squashes me. He notices that I'm there and keeps right on coming... I beeped the horn... he kept coming... (horn screaming now... and it's not quiet like a lot of MC horns) I get on it hard and go around him anyway. Next thing I know he's chasing me up George Mason and I can see him yelling out the window. Me... I decided to get the flock out of there and he quickly became nothing more than a bad memory. What the f%uck is wrong with people?? How dare they put a dent into this beautiful Friday morning! Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: This morning's idiot Author: mike@XXXXXX (Mike Troutman) Date: 5/28/99 9:49 AM Landscaping truck, still with right signal on turns left in front of me to pull U-turn. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '97 Honda VFR 750 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 10:27:59 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA25404 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:27:57 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id KAA11549; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:28:43 -0400 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma011144; Fri, 28 May 99 10:28:14 -0400 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com ([10.9.16.181]) by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3018) with SMTP id <0FCG008LU5LSYT@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 8525677F.004F55A7 ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:26:32 -0400 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:19:25 -0400 Subject: FYI: Waugh Ent. Bike Show To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <8525677F.004F5B2E.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I was at Hooters in Manassas to fill out an entry form to win a Buell or Sporster last night, and they gave me information about this: Waugh Enterprises 7th Annual Bike Show Saturday, June 19th, 1999 8am-5pm Chance to win one of two Sporster 1200 Customs or a Buell X-1 Lightning w/ trailer. Special Buell pricing, no money down, etc. 20% off clothes, collectibles (like that porcelain H-D baby figurine I suppose), parts, accessories. Free admission. Waugh's located at 385 Waugh Blvd - Rt. 20 North, Orange VA. If you have a Harley, there are about 40 categories you can enter for the show, with 5 other non-HD-specific categories (Chopper, Buell, Sportbike [non-buell], Euro/English, and Japanese). They'll also be registering people for the giveaway at Hooters in Rockville on June 3rd and Hooters in Fairfax on June 10. As an aside, they were displaying the bikes they were to give away. The Buell (an X-1 I think?) was actually pretty cool looking - I was impressed. The Buell I saw at Summit about a couple of months ago had a great paint job too as I recall - orange frame and metallic blue bodywork. Sounds awful I know, but it really looked good. Too bad the Buells have a poor reputation for durability. It was kind of funny - Waugh had a HUGE custom painted trailer and pickup with all the bells and whistles. It was obvious that they're making a bloody fortune off of the RUBs in the area. ;^) Chris Weaver 98 VTR ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 10:44:01 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA25688 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:43:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA05260 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 10:43:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 10:43:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: FYI: Waugh Ent. Bike Show In-Reply-To: <8525677F.004F5B2E.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 May 1999 christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > As an aside, they were displaying the bikes they were to give away. The > Buell (an X-1 I think?) was actually pretty cool looking - I was > impressed. The X-1 is an answer to a question no one has asked. A Harley motor supposedly tuned for top end? A big twin with a weak bottom end? The test ride I did on an X-1 saturday was a great disappointment. Thankfully, I also rode the lower end Buell, the M2. It was a lot more fun. Of course, I'm not going to buy any Buell until it's obvious they've got all the bugs worked out of them. I'll stick to my Honda twin, thank you. :) Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 11:09:38 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA26170 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:09:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA12045 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from omzrelay03.mcit.com (omzrelay03.mcit.com [199.249.19.245]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA01122 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ndcrelay.mcit.com ([166.37.172.49]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38418) with ESMTP id <0FCG00EMU7D6D3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:07:55 +0000 (GMT) Received: from omzmta04.mcit.com (omzmta04.mcit.com [166.37.194.122]) by ndcrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id PAA00139; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:07:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from toddnt ([166.38.156.10]) by omzmta04.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990528150753.IYEP632@toddnt>; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:07:53 +0000 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:04:59 -0400 From: Todd Peer Subject: RE: This morning's idiot In-reply-to: <19990528102240960-28600ce3@fanniemaefoundation.org> To: Tom Zell , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <001001bea91b$742c1610$0a9c26a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal I suspect it has something to do with VFR750's ;) But seriously. There are a LOT of indignant, irate drivers on the road. Sad thing is, a lot of them don't get that way until they get behind a wheel, and the 'us and them' psychology takes over. Some people have a dominance complex and will do anything to be sure "no one passes me", including being rude and outright dangerous. To relate, I used to have the sweetest female roommate. She and I did charity work together one winter, and she was/is one of the most self-less people I know. Very empathetic. But watch out when she gets behind the wheel. Stress city. F-U's to everyone in her path. "Asshole", with a fist in the air and the occasional middle finger salute. I hated being her passenger. Todd > What the f%uck is wrong with people?? How dare they put a dent into this > beautiful Friday morning! > > Tom > '86 VFR750 > > ____________________Reply Separator____________________ > Subject: This morning's idiot > Author: mike@XXXXXX (Mike Troutman) > Date: 5/28/99 9:49 AM > > > Landscaping truck, still with right signal on turns left in front > of me to pull > U-turn. > > ___________________________________________ > Mike Troutman > http://www.troutman.org > > '97 Honda VFR 750 > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 12:17:20 1999 Return-Path: blasalle@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.157]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA27616 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:17:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-200-119-70.bellatlantic.net [151.200.119.70]) by smtp-out2.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA25190 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <374EC0AF.DF338593@bellatlantic.net> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:13:35 -0400 From: Brian & Christa LaSalle Reply-To: blasalle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Maryland ride this weekend? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody in Maryland going riding this weekend? (Please also reply directly as I'm on the digest version) Brian 96 Yellow Nighthawk From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 13:21:29 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28830 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08288 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:21:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Saturday ride Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I plan to do a sporting ride on saturday starting from the McD's/Amoco right off 17 in Marshall, VA (1st Marshall exit heading west on 66). Start time will be 9:00am. It will be a full day's ride. Straight road speeds will be low while corners will be taken at a mid-level sporting street pace. If you'd like to come along let me know. If I don't hear from anyone I'll likely just go for a dirt ride... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 13:25:18 1999 Return-Path: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from pm05sm.pmm.cw.net (pm05sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.154]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA28855 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:25:11 -0400 (EDT) From: dawn.jon@XXXXXX Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr6-dialup45.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.67.109]) by PM05SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35323) with SMTP id <0FCG000YNDOU19@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:24:32 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:24:53 +0000 Subject: Re: Location of . . . To: DC Cycles , "Carver, John M, BGM" Message-id: <003701bea90d$7a0576c0$39433ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <9FE88F6AE3C1D211AE530000C0E871EE36A62E@vae820po01.nova.att.com> John, Take Rt.29 north to Rt. 40 east, bearing right. Stay in the right lane on 40 and turn right at the next light. Follow the signs to the court house which is about 1/4 mile up this road to the left. Very easy to find, I've been there more than I'd like to remember...... Jon (howard co. dweller) > Anyone know off hand where the Ellicot City court house is? I have to show > up in court for a traffic ticket and I am not sure of the location. TIA. > > John > 98VFR > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 14:22:36 1999 Return-Path: horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA29988 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:20:04 -0400 Message-Id: <199905281420.AA248578134@tidalwave.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Horkster" Reply-To: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Shopping for a new scoot X-Mailer: Tracy and I feel the strong urge to go deeper into debt. Tonight we'll start looking for a 1999 Kawi purple Concours for her! I know of two on dealer floors in the area, Manassas Honda and Coleman Fairfax. Anybody spotted new ones anywhere else in the area? Successful leads will be rewarded with cold beverages of your choice. :) Also, say if I buy one new in Maryland, how painful is it to get it initially registered in Virginia? I don't know if out-of-state dealer's do this sort of thing... Any of you newer bike owners know off the top of your head what dealer's typically charge for freight, and prep charges? It'll probably vary by bike, but it doesn't hurt to compare notes. I'll be looking up the info from my purchase of BugSlayer I last year when I get home, just curious about anybody else's experiences. I'll still have to add in tax and license fees, anything else? I'm trying to get a better deal on this one.... Help always appreciated. Dale (this new bike fever is pretty cool... :) -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 14:45:28 1999 Return-Path: TZell@XXXXXX Received: from foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org (smtp.fanniemaefoundation.org [38.241.255.199]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA00576 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtpgate.fanniemaefoundation.org by foundfw.fanniemaefoundation.org via smtpd (for dirty.meretrix.com [209.116.254.17]) with SMTP; 28 May 1999 21:46:37 UT Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:45 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:Shopping for a new scoot Message-ID: <19990528144641267-2951c116@fanniemaefoundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You mentioned freight charges... I think I read something in Motorcyclist a long time ago saying to refuse that charge as it is reimbursed to the dealer by the manufacturer... or something like that. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Shopping for a new scoot Author: horkster@XXXXXX Date: 5/28/99 2:20 PM Tracy and I feel the strong urge to go deeper into debt. Tonight we'll start looking for a 1999 Kawi purple Concours for her! I know of two on dealer floors in the area, Manassas Honda and Coleman Fairfax. Anybody spotted new ones anywhere else in the area? Successful leads will be rewarded with cold beverages of your choice. :) Also, say if I buy one new in Maryland, how painful is it to get it initially registered in Virginia? I don't know if out-of-state dealer's do this sort of thing... Any of you newer bike owners know off the top of your head what dealer's typically charge for freight, and prep charges? It'll probably vary by bike, but it doesn't hurt to compare notes. I'll be looking up the info from my purchase of BugSlayer I last year when I get home, just curious about anybody else's experiences. I'll still have to add in tax and license fees, anything else? I'm trying to get a better deal on this one.... Help always appreciated. Dale (this new bike fever is pretty cool... :) -- Dale Horstman (The Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, VA, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" -- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 15:11:00 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA00979 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:10:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA15661 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA07418 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lcsa3 (sterling-internal-217.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with SMTP id <0FCG00M99ILHMW@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:10:43 -0400 From: Gary Foreman Subject: RE: Shopping for a new scoot In-reply-to: <199905281420.AA248578134@tidalwave.net> To: horkster@XXXXXX Cc: Dc-Cycles Message-id: <001801bea93d$c84f6c20$d929bccc@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Call Romney Cycle, no hidden charges. Will give you the no bullshit price out the door over the phone. WV 60 day tags, and away you go. Talk to Kevin, tell him Gary Foreman sent you. 304-822-3933 > -----Original Message----- > From: Horkster [mailto:horkster@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 2:20 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Shopping for a new scoot > > > Tracy and I feel the strong urge to go deeper into > debt. Tonight we'll start looking for a 1999 Kawi > purple Concours for her! I know of two on dealer > floors in the area, Manassas Honda and Coleman Fairfax. > Anybody spotted new ones anywhere else in the area? > Successful leads will be rewarded with cold beverages > of your choice. :) > > Also, say if I buy one new in Maryland, how painful > is it to get it initially registered in Virginia? > I don't know if out-of-state dealer's do this sort > of thing... > > Any of you newer bike owners know off the top of your > head what dealer's typically charge for freight, and > prep charges? It'll probably vary by bike, but it > doesn't hurt to compare notes. I'll be looking up > the info from my purchase of BugSlayer I last year when > I get home, just curious about anybody else's experiences. > > I'll still have to add in tax and license fees, anything > else? I'm trying to get a better deal on this one.... > Help always appreciated. > > Dale (this new bike fever is pretty cool... :) > > -- > Dale Horstman (The Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > > "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet > sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" > -- > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 15:23:46 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA01276 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:23:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10672 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 15:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 15:23:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Shopping for a new scoot In-Reply-To: <199905281420.AA248578134@tidalwave.net> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 May 1999, Horkster wrote: > Also, say if I buy one new in Maryland, how painful > is it to get it initially registered in Virginia? All the DC area vehicle dealers worth going to can get you registered in MD, DC, or VA. An out of state dealer may not be able to give you a metal tag right away but otherwise... Kirk From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 16:13:48 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02214 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:13:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net [208.220.24.52] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id A859EEA0110; Fri, 28 May 1999 16:11:05 -0400 Message-ID: <374EF8C1.FC434425@tidalwave.net> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:12:49 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Concours Owners Group , DC Cycles Subject: Re: new bike purchases? References: <199905281542.SM00154@sierratel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Magwa wrote: > I'll be looking up > > the info from my purchase of BugSlayer I last year when > > I get home, figured it wouldn't hurt to compare notes > > with others. In answering my own question, in part, here's what I had to pay for BugSlayer, the First. Back when I was young and stupid. About 14 months ago, March 1998. 7999 - Full List Price (ok, so I'm a fool) 350 - Freight 195 - Handling and/or Safety checks 384 - Virginia Tax 2 - Document Tax 10 - Title Charge 2 - Registration 15 - Business License Tax 90 - Insurance (???, I think I got temporary insurance, can't remember 5 - Inspection fee 2 - Temporary Tag fee 22 - Tag and Title Procurement fee 53 - Administrative Processing Fee I'd total it up, but then you'd all realize just how foolish I was. :) Gotta go, I've got the burning urge to do it all again. :) Dale -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 18:04:37 1999 Return-Path: jmoran@XXXXXX Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA04464 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 18:04:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loudoun.com (leesburg-56.cybercable.com) by idalee.loudoun.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1998.11.13.11.10) with ESMTP id <0FCG000G9QN7S1@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 28 May 1999 18:04:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 18:14:20 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Subject: Re: Shopping for a new scoot To: horkster@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-to: jmoran@XXXXXX Message-id: <374F1518.69E21454@loudoun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; x-mac-creator=4D4F5353; x-mac-type=54455854; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <199905281420.AA248578134@tidalwave.net> I am certain that Coleman charges freight, having worked there (for about three months) as a salesman several years ago. The freight charge is pure profit for the dealership, and you should avoid paying it. Your ability to avoid paying it will, of course, depend on how badly the dealer wants to get rid of the particular bike. The best customers, or at least the ones who walked away with the best deals, were the ones who walked in knowing what they were willing to pay and then stuck to their guns until they got what they wanted. A good ballpark figure for a bike that is in reasonable demand is the MSRP plus tax and tags. Pay no processing, set-up, freight, appraisal, nor any other bulls#*t the dealer comes up with. Simply refuse to pay it. Oh, and one other thing...the Coleman salesman will usually quote a base price for the bike that is at least $200 above MSRP. Don't fall for it. Good Luck. Randy Moran Horkster wrote: > Tracy and I feel the strong urge to go deeper into > debt. Tonight we'll start looking for a 1999 Kawi > purple Concours for her! I know of two on dealer > floors in the area, Manassas Honda and Coleman Fairfax. > Anybody spotted new ones anywhere else in the area? > Successful leads will be rewarded with cold beverages > of your choice. :) > > Also, say if I buy one new in Maryland, how painful > is it to get it initially registered in Virginia? > I don't know if out-of-state dealer's do this sort > of thing... > > Any of you newer bike owners know off the top of your > head what dealer's typically charge for freight, and > prep charges? It'll probably vary by bike, but it > doesn't hurt to compare notes. I'll be looking up > the info from my purchase of BugSlayer I last year when > I get home, just curious about anybody else's experiences. > > I'll still have to add in tax and license fees, anything > else? I'm trying to get a better deal on this one.... > Help always appreciated. > > Dale (this new bike fever is pretty cool... :) > > -- > Dale Horstman (The Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, VA, USA, Earth > > "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet > sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." > - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" > -- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 28 22:27:38 1999 Return-Path: jugernaut@XXXXXX Received: from smtp4.erols.com (smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA08720 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:27:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from erols.com (207-172-73-6.s6.tnt1.man.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.73.6]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with ESMTP id WAA21756 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 22:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <374F507A.5F274129@erols.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 22:27:06 -0400 From: James Knowlton Reply-To: jugernaut@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re:This morning's idiot References: <199905282300.TAA05464@meretrix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well seems to be alot of idiots on the road these days. Wednesday on the way home from work, out of state 4 wheel drive something or other starts pulling into my lane without looking. I'm along side his left rear wheel and hit the briefly. He hits his horn and keeps coming. I wail on the air horn, and guess he got the idea and pulls back into his lane as I make a passing remark about his questionable parentage. Then today (Friday), I'm turning right off 234 with no turn lane. A jack a** in a pickup comes wailing up behind me, obviously with no intention of slowing down to let me complete my turn. Barely made it into the parking lot to see this guy looking at me like I did something wrong. Jim 600 YZF From dc-cycles-request Sat May 29 00:18:01 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA10424 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:17:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA21162 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:17:58 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo15.mx.aol.com (imo15.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.5]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA17713 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:17:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (4539) by imo15.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id oNWRa02577; Sat, 29 May 1999 00:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <611b0bde.2480c423@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 00:16:35 EDT Subject: Re: This morning's idiot To: mike@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 how about this: on my left is one of those round looking SUVs that seem to be forever in danger of flipping over ... suddenly the car in front of them brakes for no apparent reason, without looking the SUV leaps to the right while leaning at a rather precarious angle and ends up in front of me ... about 6 inches in front of me ... fortunately did not brake or I would now be one with the SUV ... saw the two guys inside high-five eachother and laugh! I pulled up next to them at the light and asked them if they realized they nearly killed me ... MUCH to my surprise they affected very serious faces and apologized very nicely ... In a message dated 5/28/99 10:00:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, mike@XXXXXX writes: << Had to relay this morning's encounter. >> From dc-cycles-request Sat May 29 09:19:00 1999 Return-Path: shephar1@XXXXXX Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA21942 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:18:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA20012 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 08:18:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mar-wv11-08.ix.netcom.com(199.35.94.8) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma020001; Sat May 29 08:18:20 1999 Message-ID: <003d01bea9d5$5b090ac0$085e23c7@oemcomputer> From: "Ken" To: "dc-cycles" Subject: Moto-Guzzi on TV Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:15:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 NEW YORK, May 28 =97 Mark Hauser, Executive Chairman of Moto Guzzi = Corporation (OTCBB:GUZI), the renowned Italian pioneer of motorcycle = design and manufacturing, will appear on CNN Saturday, May 29, at 8:30 = p.m. ET as a guest on Business Unusual with program Host Lou Dobbs.=20 Ken S. ICQ# 32289311 HDKnight1 on AOL Instant messenger HDKnight1 on Yahoo Pager kshephard@XXXXXX 1996 XLH 1200 Ride Safe Inwood, WV From dc-cycles-request Sat May 29 09:25:43 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22138 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:25:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26269 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe3.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.50]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22383 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.28.195.247]) by mail3.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Sat, 29 May 1999 09:22:06 -0400 Message-ID: <374FEB4B.3815001E@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:27:39 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Nady PRC-8 Communicator References: <4.1.19990524165539.01ae1c60@mail.wheatintl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike, how do you like this? I've been half-heartedly looking for something for almost a year. Larry Meyer Annandale, VA '97 Bandit 1200 Mike Troutman wrote: > Just ordered one of these today from http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/. > Hope to find some other listers to chat with =) > > Nady PRC-8 > > {snip} From dc-cycles-request Sat May 29 09:28:03 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA22286 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:28:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA26289 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:28:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3.mgfairfax.rr.com (fe3.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.50]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA22396 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 09:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mgfairfax.rr.com ([24.28.195.247]) by mail3.mgfairfax.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1875.185.18); Sat, 29 May 1999 09:24:36 -0400 Message-ID: <374FEBE2.188ED7C1@mgfairfax.rr.com> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 09:30:10 -0400 From: Larry Meyer X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Looking for VFR 800 References: <3.0.5.32.19990517100241.007e5560@pop.mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of mine is looking for a used VFR 800. If anybody knows of one, or the odds of finding one, or what a reasonable price would be, please E-mail me off line. Thanks, Larry Meyer Annandale, Va '97 Bandit 1200 From dc-cycles-request Sat May 29 12:57:24 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mail.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA26617 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 12:57:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tidalwave.net [208.220.24.28] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id AC0821C1014C; Sat, 29 May 1999 12:55:36 -0400 Message-ID: <37501C71.52DED6A6@tidalwave.net> Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 12:57:21 -0400 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Concours Owners Group Subject: Re: new bike purchase References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well folks, I'm happy to announce that we are officially a two-Connie family again! Tracy and I are the proud parents of a new bouncing baby Barney bike (1999 Concours) fresh from the dealer's floor. We were able to haggle Coleman Powersport here in Woodbridge, VA to $7250 plus freight and setup. It came out to a little under list price when all was said and done. I'm pleased, so is Tracy. She proudly rode the bike home without incident. Let the break-in begin!!! I found it cute that her first words after dismounting in the driveway were "That stock shield has gotta go!" Evidently she is so short that she looks right through the flip in the windshield, which distorts things badly. :) She never understood before why I need to modify things. So I've got a little work to do to make the bike fit for riding. :) In no particular order, are: 1. Swap out the stock seat with our spare cut-down one. Done. 2. Install 15" Rifle windshield and base (perfect height for Tracy). 3. Raise the fork tubes up in the clamps 1". (Lowers it a little). 4. Install the Fenda Extenda. 5. Install the Gen-Mar bar risers. 6. Alter the rider's footpegs with a grinder so they are less likely to break in the event of a tipover. 7. Install a throttle lock. 8. Remove all the air from the rear shock (lowers it a little). 9. Replace the stock handgrips with a set of aftermarket ones. 10. Paint the bike a cool dark green color (I don't think I'll get away with this one, but I had to try... :) 11. I think I'm gonna pursue lowering the rear end a little bit further, as well. If I have the shock linkages lengthened a tiny bit, it should lift the swingarm up a little closer to the fender, effectively lowering the bike. I want Tracy to feel 100% comfortable on this thing. In spite of the above list, I'm 100% comfortable that I bought the right bike, again. :) Horkster -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayerII - VA Plate: BGSLYR 1999 Kawaskai Concours - Hers - She won't let me call it Barney "I started riding away from home in order to feel the sweet sensation of missing it at the same time I love leaving it." - Melissa Holbrook Pierson "The Perfect Vehicle" From dc-cycles-request Sun May 30 09:23:26 1999 Return-Path: blasalle@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA18012 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 09:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bellatlantic.net (client-151-200-115-52.bellatlantic.net [151.200.115.52]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29581 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 09:22:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37513AED.33D73665@bellatlantic.net> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 09:19:41 -0400 From: Brian & Christa LaSalle Reply-To: blasalle@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: DC Cycles Subject: Maryland riders to Anita's? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody from southern Maryland heading over to Anita's Monday for the ride want to meet up for the slab up to Sterling? Brian Yellow Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Sun May 30 11:17:09 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21223 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 11:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990530151707.103.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.164.224.209] by web304.yahoomail.com; Sun, 30 May 1999 08:17:07 PDT Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 08:17:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Non-Moto: Pet home?? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone on the list interested in a Nile Monitor with cage, a black and white tegu with cage, or a pair of ball pythons with cage??? I need to know asap.... The nile's cage is big: 6'x3'x3' but could probably be ok in something a bit smaller for a couple of years... but it will get to be a big lizard.... I plan on keeping the two lovely snakes I got from Dawn, but the others really need to find a home...it's just becoming too hard to pick up and move an entire zoo every couple of years.... Call me at (703) 356-4279 today, or at the inlaws after this afternoon (703) 492-4042. I'll be happy to deliver as well... Collin === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun May 30 11:44:17 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA21823 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 11:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990530154647.10792.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [216.164.224.209] by web303.yahoomail.com; Sun, 30 May 1999 08:46:47 PDT Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 08:46:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Tires for sale cheap... To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have two sets of Dunlop D207gp (race compounds) for cheap...$50/set. Most of the wear is along the outer edge on the right hand side... they should have considerable street mileage on them or maybe a track day... In their current condition, they could probably take you to about 1:25ish lap times, but they've been heated enough that they'll be greasy for anything faster than that... on the street, you'd never know the difference.. I also have one set of Michelin slicks that are good for a track day. $20 for the set. All sizes are 180/55 zr17 for rear and 120/70 zr17 front. convince me with some barley pop, and I might even mount them for you ;-) Collin (703) 492-4042 (starting this evening...) === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun May 30 12:15:04 1999 Return-Path: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX Received: from mail1.radix.net (mail1.radix.net [209.48.224.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA22362 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gibberish.radix.net (p12.a4.du.radix.net [207.192.130.140]) by mail1.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA24362 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:14:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3751646E.5ECB@radix.net> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:16:46 -0400 From: Richard Wood Reply-To: rdwoodjr@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Motorcycle Insurance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey gang, I have news I must pass on to you. I sold my '94 Magna last year during a period of unemployment from the Motorcycle industry to pay bills. I was a non-motorcyclist for the first time in 26 years. A pedestrian. A sad soul. BUT then, re-employed!! So I buys a '84 VF700 Sabre with low miles to putt around on until the perfect motorcycle becomes available (or is assembled by me). At any rate, I calls my old insurance co for coverage, and they want $231/yr. They say the Sabre is a sport bike. The Magna could leave the Sabre wimpering in speed contest and was $166/yr. (basic coverage) Ok, ok Rich, get to the point! So I calls a company that sent me a mailed solicitation. $84/yr!! After I regain consciousness, I sign up, and pass their phone# along to you: Interstate Auto Insurance Co. agent: Md Cycle Direct 410-665-6700 Richard Wood From dc-cycles-request Sun May 30 13:57:18 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm06sm.pmm.cw.net (pm06sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.155]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA23972 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 13:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr50-dialup59.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.196.59]) by PM06SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35324) with SMTP id <0FCK00F8E4IH3R@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:56:45 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:57:02 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Motorcycle Insurance To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <002301beaaa4$4d655e80$68483ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <3751646E.5ECB@radix.net> > Interstate Auto Insurance Co. > agent: Md Cycle Direct 410-665-6700 > Richard Wood Yup, I have my 92 FZR600 with this insurance company for the last 4 months. $200 a year, cheapest I could find. Ask for Stuart Dahne.... Jon From dc-cycles-request Sun May 30 15:01:22 1999 Return-Path: mobacc@XXXXXX Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.16.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA25031 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from newmicronpc (dialas-209.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.209]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA29223 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 15:01:18 -0400 Message-ID: <129c01beaace$ac923340$53a4fccd@newmicronpc> From: "mobacc" To: "Dc Cycles" Subject: Metal crunching all over Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:00:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1297_01BEAAAD.24C05080" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1297_01BEAAAD.24C05080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Continuing the idiot stories -- =20 Going east on Rte 50 just past 495. Traffic moderate, 50-60, me in the = nxt-to-left lane, this lane pretty full far ahead, me behind two SUVs, = coming up on the section where the left lane disappears. Several cars = have passed me in the left lane, obviously with hopes to squeeze in at = the forcing point. I look ahead, the squeeze point congested, as left = lane cars muscle their way into my lane. My lane cars don't want to = give way to musclers. I slow down, expecting much slower as SUV's = brake. CRUNCH, CRUNCH go the SUV's in a rearender. I avoid, moving to = right, look at carnage. My lane didn't give in to the rudies from the = left lane until it was too late and something had to give. Well, it is = comforting to know that SUVs do crunch. I saw no musclers tagged, = though, in a travesty of justice. =20 =20 Today at Indy 500 -- two leading contenders out for "lane infractions". = A -- Leyendyk (sp?) *when leading* tries to pass other laggard on the = inside left just prior to a turn. Should have expected other to start = carving the apex, pinching him, which happened. L. tries to stay to = inside, no contact but steering mismanagement causes spin, wall, out. A = real bummer after leading most of race to then. B -- A contender = (sorry, name escapes), pulling from pit crosses into fast lane catching = another car's rear left rear wheel with his right front. Both slowly to = pit wall. He out, other continues race. Both infractions seeming = mental lapses. =20 =20 All of a sudden, the lane gods are frowning. I'm on guard. Extra. =20 Bill S. / DC=20 99 VN750 --> Lemme 'splain -- use brain to maintain the lane=20 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. ------=_NextPart_000_1297_01BEAAAD.24C05080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Continuing the idiot stories = --
 
Going east on Rte 50 just past = 495.  Traffic=20 moderate, 50-60, me in the nxt-to-left lane, this lane pretty full far = ahead, me=20 behind two SUVs, coming up on the section where the left lane = disappears. =20 Several cars have passed me in the left lane, obviously with hopes to = squeeze in=20 at the forcing point.  I look ahead, the squeeze point congested, = as left=20 lane cars muscle their way into my lane.  My lane cars don't want = to give=20 way to musclers.  I slow down, expecting much slower as SUV's = brake. =20 CRUNCH, CRUNCH go the SUV's in a rearender.  I avoid, moving to = right, look=20 at carnage.  My lane didn't give in to the rudies from the left = lane until=20 it was too late and something had to give.  Well, it is comforting = to know=20 that SUVs do crunch.  I saw no musclers tagged, though, in a = travesty of=20 justice. 
 
Today at Indy 500 -- two leading = contenders out for=20 "lane infractions".  A -- Leyendyk (sp?) *when leading* = tries to=20 pass other laggard on the inside left just prior to a turn.  Should = have=20 expected other to start carving the apex, pinching him, which = happened.  L.=20 tries to stay to inside, no contact but steering mismanagement causes = spin,=20 wall, out.  A real bummer after leading most of race to then.  = B -- A contender (sorry, name = escapes), pulling=20 from pit crosses into fast lane catching another car's rear left rear = wheel with=20 his right front. Both slowly to pit wall.  He out, other continues=20 race.   Both infractions seeming mental lapses.  =
 
All of a sudden, the lane gods are = frowning. =20 I'm on guard.  Extra. 
 
Bill S. / DC
99 VN750 --> Lemme = 'splain --=20 use brain to maintain the lane
Join the AMA.  Help protect my = riding=20 fun.
------=_NextPart_000_1297_01BEAAAD.24C05080-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 30 17:14:25 1999 Return-Path: harris@XXXXXX Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA26959 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (harris.his.com [205.252.80.17]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11849; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990530171352.008e3af0@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:13:52 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Anita's soiree' tomorrow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have deleted the msg with the address and time. If anybody would be so kind as to send it to me I would appreciate it. I just put the lights on my race bike and am thinking about going for a street bike ride tomorrow. Thanks Stephen Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Sun May 30 17:14:26 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA26960 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA12406 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA09568 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [205.177.25.9]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA25931 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (harris.his.com [205.252.80.17]) by mail.his.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA11849; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:14:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990530171352.008e3af0@mail.his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:13:52 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Anita's soiree' tomorrow Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I have deleted the msg with the address and time. If anybody would be so kind as to send it to me I would appreciate it. I just put the lights on my race bike and am thinking about going for a street bike ride tomorrow. Thanks Stephen Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Sun May 30 17:38:58 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp2.erols.com (smtp2.erols.com [207.172.3.235]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA27358 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:38:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-121-62.s62.tnt15.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.121.62]) by smtp2.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA28942 for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 17:40:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: FW: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ - Directions Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 17:38:53 -0400 Message-ID: <005d01beaae4$d032ad00$7823accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal This should do it. LindaT. 95 F3 Purple Haze (56K miles and counting...) 86 KLR250 Klarabelle http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/4807/ -----Original Message----- From: Anita Lauro [mailto:2xracers@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:12 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Memorial Day Ride/BBQ - Directions Before I forget! :-) The plan for Memorial Day (Monday, May 31st) is to meet at my house around 9:00 am, and depart for a 150 mile or so ride by 9:30 am. The route hasn't been determined yet, but I'll come up with something fun! Looks like we'll have a fast paced group and a medium paced group, so just about everyone will be happy! I expect to be back by 1:30-2:00 pm to start the BBQ actitivies. Here are directions to my lovely home, located in picturesque Sterling, VA: >From Tyson's Corner, take Route 7 West for approximately 12 miles. Once you reach Sterling (you'll know when you get there), keep going until you pass the Sterling Boulevard intersection. Make a right at the next light after Sterling Blvd, onto Potomac View. Make a right at the second functioning traffic light, onto Sugarland Run Drive. Proceed past the 7-11/Citgo (good place to fuel up before the ride). Make a right at the third street after the 7-11, Greenfield Court. Follow Greenfield Court around to the cul-de-sac. 227 Greenfield Court will be on the right, a TH with grey vinyl siding and white windows. You can park either right in front of the house, or in the 'visitor parking' in the center of the cul-de-sac, or wherever you see a lot of bikes! :-) If you prefer to come up Rte 28, just take 28 until it ends at Route 7. Take Route 7 East (to the right) until you pass Northern Virginia Community College on the left. Potomac View is the next light. Make a left on Potomac View and follow the directions above. My home phone is 703-406-8046.. call if you get lost! :-) Hopefully we won't have to worry about rain, but if the weather is iffy you can call me to find out what's up. Anita From dc-cycles-request Mon May 31 20:11:00 1999 Return-Path: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.6]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA06957 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:10:58 -0400 (EDT) From: TZimm2450@XXXXXX Received: from TZimm2450@XXXXXX (3933) by imo16.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2SVPa15511 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:10:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <2fc64e53.24847edc@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:10:04 EDT Subject: Salvage Yard? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Hey While I was on vacation, It seems there was a big storm in the northern VA area. From what my neighbor said, the wind blew the bike over and he picked it up for me. We it seemed to have scratched a blinker lens, brake handle, muffler, and bent my right hand steering handle bar back to the tank. Thank GOD it didn't hit the tank. I took it off and its at about 15 degrees off. I thought of bending it back but it's bent right on a screw hole so the stability isn't all that great. Does anyone know of a salvage yard in the area that may have spare parts for a 1997-1999 Yamaha YZF600. It's nice to know that they produced this bike three years in a row. There has to have been some bikes that were totaled in this area just waiting to be picked apart. Trevor 98YZF600 (it only makes left hand turns and can't increase speed.) From dc-cycles-request Mon May 31 20:35:06 1999 Return-Path: fzr_mofo@XXXXXX Received: from pm04sm.pmm.cw.net (pm04sm.pmm.cw.net [208.159.98.153]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA07356 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 20:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 0302104396168270 (usr31-dialup45.mix2.Boston.cw.net [166.62.73.173]) by PM04SM.PMM.CW.NET (PMDF V5.2-29 #35318) with SMTP id <0FCM00J9WHLAI7@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 00:34:25 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:34:39 +0000 From: Jon Schumer Subject: Re: Salvage Yard? To: DC Cycles Message-id: <001401beaba5$04477ce0$8f433ea6@0302104396168270> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <2fc64e53.24847edc@aol.com> Call Baltimore Cycle Salvage: 410-962-1335 Jon > Hey While I was on vacation, It seems there was a big storm in the > northern VA area. From what my neighbor said, the wind blew the bike over > and he picked it up for me. We it seemed to have scratched a blinker lens, > brake handle, muffler, and bent my right hand steering handle bar back to the > tank. Thank GOD it didn't hit the tank. I took it off and its at about 15 > degrees off. I thought of bending it back but it's bent right on a screw > hole so the stability isn't all that great. > Does anyone know of a salvage yard in the area that may have spare parts > for a 1997-1999 Yamaha YZF600. It's nice to know that they produced this bike > three years in a row. There has to have been some bikes that were totaled in > this area just waiting to be picked apart. > > Trevor > 98YZF600 (it only makes left hand turns and can't increase speed.) > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 31 21:22:39 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA08128 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 21:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX (4453) by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id aDJRa02589; Mon, 31 May 1999 21:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:21:51 EDT Subject: One Lap of West Virginia--Completed To: GBarber433@XXXXXX, cb-750@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, , Lordorange@XXXXXX, gustoe@XXXXXX, Rick_Royer@XXXXXX, zbig@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 We left Charles Town about 9:30 Sat. morning and got back to the house around 7:30 PM Monday. Total distance 1043 miles and we skipped the northern panhandle. Tired but satiated with twisties. What a great ride!!!!! Bob McKeithen From dc-cycles-request Mon May 31 23:24:58 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com (imo13.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA10216 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 23:24:57 -0400 (EDT) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX (88) by imo13.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id 2HLTa02105 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 23:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <21fd63eb.2484ac51@aol.com> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:24:01 EDT Subject: Re: Metal crunching all over To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 riding around town Sunday just checking out al the bikes. I come up a little too fast over a hill and onto a yellow-turning-red-light so I brake pretty sharp and stop pretty much all the way over to the righthand side of the leftmost lane... about 10 seconds later a car blasts past me on the left IN MY LANE and RUNS the very red light!!!! I was shaking myhead all the way home. In a message dated 5/30/99 3:10:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mobacc@XXXXXX writes: << Continuing the idiot stories -- >> From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 01:39:45 1999 Return-Path: intercept84@XXXXXX Received: from hotmail.com (law-f44.hotmail.com [209.185.131.107]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA12881 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 01:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 80901 invoked by uid 0); 1 Jun 1999 05:39:12 -0000 Message-ID: <19990601053912.80900.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 128.8.22.207 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 31 May 1999 22:39:11 PDT X-Originating-IP: [128.8.22.207] From: "s s" To: cog@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: I'm off! Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 22:39:11 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; I'll finally launch on my Way Out West trip tomorrow morning! The plan currently is 6500+ miles in 14 days, including an Iron Butt leg from DC to KC to kick the ride off. Anyway, I'll be off list for a couple of weeks. I'll try to post from either Vegas or L.A. to let everybody know how it goes. Be Seeing You, Spence..... 88 Concours _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Jun 1 02:39:16 1999 Return-Path: gixer_racer@XXXXXX Received: from web303.yahoomail.com (web303.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.185]) by meretrix.com (8.8.8/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA14568 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 02:39:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990601064157.18456.rocketmail@web303.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.161.15.75] by web303.yahoomail.com; Mon, 31 May 1999 23:41:57 PDT Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 23:41:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: MMMMmmmmm Baaaarbeque To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks to Anita for hosting a yummy barbeque and a very nice route (now if I could only tell my east from my west.....) Oh yeah, and next time, someone tell the leader that we're supposed to stop in Marshall BEFORE we're 35 miles past it ;-) he he he Oh yeah, how many kilometers per hour were we travelling while that sherrif followed us all the way down snikersville turnpike anyhow?? :) Collin (who not so surprisingly anymore manages to always get the fast group there AFTER the slow group.. with a few extra miles of course ;-)) === Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Avon Racing Tyres _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com