From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun May 1 07:46:22 2005 From: "Stephen" To: Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 07:44:10 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] 1985 XL600R stolen From the parking lot at my building in Silver Spring some time yesterday. Parked beside two sport bikes and another old Honda. Mine was far-and-away the worst looking of the bunch. The thief, in the rain, unscrewed two 4" lag bolts holding a clamp down. He'd probably have gone through the clamp faster with a hack-saw but that would've made more noise. This was not a crime of opportunity, but planning. I got a call from the police already. No details yet, but I'm hoping they have the bike. This is the third motorcycle stolen from that spot and two of them were mine! My car's been stolen twice from the same vicinity. I tried to move, but have you looked at the price of real-estate these days? Stephen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun May 1 14:02:15 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 14:02:04 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] 1985 XL600R stolen To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 5/1/2005 7:46:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, theoctopus@XXXXXX writes: > This is the third motorcycle stolen from that spot and two of them were > mine! My car's been stolen twice from the same vicinity. Alarm(s) _with_ pager(s). That sucks. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 2 11:10:56 2005 From: "Rob Keiser" To: DC-Cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] 1985 XL600R stolen Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:10:43 -0400 Sorry to hear the news, Stephen. That sucks! Let us know how the call to Police goes. Rob '98 VFR800 From: "Stephen" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] 1985 XL600R stolen Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 07:44:10 -0400 From the parking lot at my building in Silver Spring some time yesterday. Parked beside two sport bikes and another old Honda. Mine was far-and-away the worst looking of the bunch. The thief, in the rain, unscrewed two 4" lag bolts holding a clamp down. He'd probably have gone through the clamp faster with a hack-saw but that would've made more noise. This was not a crime of opportunity, but planning. I got a call from the police already. No details yet, but I'm hoping they have the bike. This is the third motorcycle stolen from that spot and two of them were mine! My car's been stolen twice from the same vicinity. I tried to move, but have you looked at the price of real-estate these days? Stephen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 2 11:31:53 2005 Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 11:38:25 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Subject: [dc-cycles] FS: New Old Stock (NOS) Shoei RF-700 helmets, $80 FS: NEW old stock (NOS) Shoei RF-700 helmets, $80. I just bought one to replace my old RF-700. They)B’re not as nice as the new RF-1000 ($400-450) but cost a mite less and provide excellent protection: Snell90 and Dot certified (note: Snell90 implies they were made between 1990-95). See for lots of pix. I can buy additional ones until May 6 or until my source is out of stock. To get one, you must: (1) KNOW your Shoei size (xs thru xxl): NO RETURNS if you guess wrong! If you)B’re not sure, don’t buy. And there is NO color/style guarantee (you can email me your style preferences ()B‘Spark’ ‘Wave’ ‘Quake’ or ‘Solid’) and color, but this is a close-out deal and not all sizes/models may be available. Currently there is a good selection of everything except )B‘Solid.’). You can also specify, ‘don’t order unless [specific models and colors] are available,)B’ but if you don’t, there are NO RETURNS if you don)B’t like the color/style you get. Of course if there’s an error at my end (mistake in the order or shipping damage to my place) you will have the option of a full refund. (2) PRE-PAY by cash---at this price I can)B’t afford no-shows. This means two trips here (Mt. Pleasant, DC, 1/2 mile northeast of the zoo)---payment and pickup, unless we drop-ship to you. I)B’ll check stock (weekday afternoons only) before you come by but they could sell out before your order is processed. If that happens, you get your money back promptly. Specifying a second, third, and fourth choice model/color will minimize that problem. Delivery time is typically 3 business-days. You will be notified by email or phone, and can pickup most, but not all, weekday evenings after 9 pm; possibly weekend afternoons. Or, you can have the helmet drop-shipped to you for $15 more. (If you drop ship, someone will have to sign for delivery, and you will be responsible for filing any damage claims with UPS.) This is an excellent deal IF you know your Shoei helmet size, are flexible about helmet color/graphics, and are reasonably close to mid-DC. Feel free to email if you have questions. --garcia "We're lost, but we're making good time." From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 2 13:32:21 2005 Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:32:14 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: garcia oliver Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] FS: New Old Stock (NOS) Shoei RF-700 helmets, $80 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > FS: NEW old stock (NOS) Shoei RF-700 helmets, $80. Keep in mind that the foam liner deteriorates with age whether or not you use it. While a 6 year old RF700 is unarrguably a better lid than a brand new cruiser-style "DOT" helmet, it's not as good as a new unit with fresh foam. -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 3 19:02:26 2005 From: "Dave Yates" To: "'dc-cycles'" Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:02:02 -0400 X-ELNK-Trace: 956056117932dab21aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c03edbef088292bf40e0996b1a17c28a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c Subject: [dc-cycles] new bikes On the subject of new motorcycles, have any of you purchased new motos recently? I am considering a new purchase I have literally several candidates, but since I already have a fast bike, I needn't worry about a sport bike. Without getting into model specifics, those of you who have purchased new recently, what was your experience like overall? What would you do differently, etc. In the better news department, I just got back from the annual 'wake from the way too long winter nap shakedown cruise' on the 11, and I am pleased with the results. I desperately need tires, but my gas tank replacement / kreme coating has apparently been successful. I was very pleased to not have the smell of gas surrounding me at stop lights, and no gas dripping on to my incredibly hot headers... Dave From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 3 23:24:48 2005 Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 23:31:20 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Subject: [dc-cycles] free sportmax touring tire (used) 160/60x17 Free Dunlop Sportmax touring tire 160/60x17 (rear radial). Looks about half worn. NW DC, near the Zoo. --garcia From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 4 14:11:40 2005 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:11:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Rob Richardson To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Virginia Run Sprint Triathlon - Motorcycle Volunteers Needed Hello, I'm the bike coordinator for a new Sprint Triathlon in Centreville, Virginia on May 15th, 2005 (http://www.finswheelsfeet.com). I need two volunteer motorcyclists to assist with the bike portion of the triathlon. Each of the two volunteer motorcyclists will need to carry a USA Triathlon (USAT) official as a passenger during the bike portion of the course so that the USAT Official can monitor cyclists for any race violations (i.e., drafting, blocking, etc). The bike course is a total of 12-miles throughout the Virginia Run community (off of Route 29). I estimate that we will need each of the two volunteer motorcyclists from 6:30am - 9:30am on Sunday, May 15th. If you are interested in volunteering or if you have any questions, please contact me at rhrichardson@XXXXXX or (703) 753-5783. Warm Regards, Rob Richardson (703) 753-5783 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 13:06:20 2005 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:09:03 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon http://gwfweb.com/cycles/050501a/ Gary From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 13:34:41 2005 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:34:26 -0400 From: smthng else To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Nice shots! But, that track looks like crap. Got a question though... what's the little box that's taped to everyone's tail for? --smthng On 5/5/05, Gary Foreman wrote: > > > http://gwfweb.com/cycles/050501a/ > > Gary > > -- --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 13:37:31 2005 From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:37:19 -0400 I'm pretty sure those are lap timers. I actually was there and had a blast long ride up there though. -----Original Message----- From: smthng else [mailto:smthngelse@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Nice shots! But, that track looks like crap. Got a question though... what's the little box that's taped to everyone's tail for? --smthng On 5/5/05, Gary Foreman wrote: > > > http://gwfweb.com/cycles/050501a/ > > Gary > > -- --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 13:47:59 2005 From: "Gary Foreman" To: , Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:50:58 -0400 Transponder, i.e. lap counter. -----Original Message----- From: smthng else [mailto:smthngelse@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Nice shots! But, that track looks like crap. Got a question though... what's the little box that's taped to everyone's tail for? --smthng On 5/5/05, Gary Foreman wrote: > > > http://gwfweb.com/cycles/050501a/ > > Gary > > -- --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 17:41:15 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: you@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:41:08 -0400 Transponder for lap times. They put a laser on the side of the track and ever lap it picks up the beam. Rob On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:34:26 -0400, smthng else wrote > Nice shots! But, that track looks like crap. > > Got a question though... what's the little box that's taped to > everyone's tail for? > > --smthng > > On 5/5/05, Gary Foreman wrote: > > > > > > http://gwfweb.com/cycles/050501a/ > > > > Gary > > > > > > -- > --smthng > http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 17:42:41 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: "Gary Foreman" , Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:42:38 -0400 Those are some great pictures. I know how hard it is to get bikes while they are zipping by and you have some good tight closeups. Where did you take those shots from ? Rob On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:09:03 -0400, Gary Foreman wrote > http://gwfweb.com/cycles/050501a/ > > Gary -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 18:05:11 2005 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "'Rob Sharp'" , Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 18:08:10 -0400 Some from turn 9, most from turn 1. It's taken a few years to get the pan and shoot down. It helps to have a good lens. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Rob Sharp [mailto:rob@XXXXXX] To: Gary Foreman; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Those are some great pictures. I know how hard it is to get bikes while they are zipping by and you have some good tight closeups. Where did you take those shots from ? Rob On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:09:03 -0400, Gary Foreman wrote > http://gwfweb.com/cycles/050501a/ > > Gary -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 18:39:54 2005 From: "Bruce N" To: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 18:38:43 -0400 X-EN-UserInfo: 491cc520d85f37050654855667ce7bc9:eef17f84dc61b2cfa83f34354b81b18b X-EN-AuthUser: bcn@XXXXXX Actually there are two different types of devices used on the track for timing purposes. One is generally referred to as a "transponder". It works by transmitting on a specific radio frequency which is usually picked up by a wire buried in the track at the start-finish line. The RF transmitter is detected by the computer system in the timing tower. Every bike has a different frequency, I think, so they can keep track of which bike is which. This is used for the official race organizations like WERA and CCS. Similar systems are used by professional racing orgs of all types, bikes and cars. The other is called a "lap timer". Usually made by XT Racing or Mychron. These work by using a IR transmitter on a tripod placed beside the track. The transmitter projects an infrared beam across the track. On the bike is a little IR receiver connected to a control unit that has a display that records lap times by reading the IR beam. These timers are strictly for personal use and are not used for official race timing. Hope that helps, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Sharp" To: ; Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon > Transponder for lap times. They put a laser on the side of the track and > ever > lap it picks up the beam. > > Rob > > On Thu, 5 May 2005 13:34:26 -0400, smthng else wrote >> Nice shots! But, that track looks like crap. >> >> Got a question though... what's the little box that's taped to >> everyone's tail for? >> >> --smthng >> >> On 5/5/05, Gary Foreman wrote: >> > >> > >> > http://gwfweb.com/cycles/050501a/ >> > >> > Gary >> > >> > >> >> -- >> --smthng >> http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ > > > -- > Rob Sharp > rob@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 19:32:22 2005 Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:32:20 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 hour spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket had "time of observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket writer wrote the ticket 'a little bit early'. Anybody know if the "time of observation" is when they first spot the bike, or when they actually write the ticket? I figure it's when they write the ticket, as it's generated from a handheld computer. Might be worth sending in to contest, though it's only $15. Kinda rankles me that the ticket writer did this. thanks, Chris From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 19:59:49 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:59:35 -0400 I thought they didn't enforce that? I've parked at M & Conn and G & 15th and never got that ticket. >From: "Chris Norloff" >Reply-To: >To: "List-dc cycles" >Subject: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket >Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:32:20 -0400 > >So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 hour >spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket had "time of >observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket writer wrote the ticket >'a little bit early'. > >Anybody know if the "time of observation" is when they first spot the bike, >or when they actually write the ticket? I figure it's when they write the >ticket, as it's generated from a handheld computer. > >Might be worth sending in to contest, though it's only $15. Kinda rankles >me that the ticket writer did this. > >thanks, >Chris > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 21:37:03 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: , "List-dc cycles" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:36:55 -0400 Were you parked there more than 4 hours? It's not quite clear from your post. Rob On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:32:20 -0400, Chris Norloff wrote > So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 > hour spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket > had "time of observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket > writer wrote the ticket 'a little bit early'. > > Anybody know if the "time of observation" is when they first spot > the bike, or when they actually write the ticket? I figure it's when > they write the ticket, as it's generated from a handheld computer. > > Might be worth sending in to contest, though it's only $15. Kinda > rankles me that the ticket writer did this. > > thanks, > Chris -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 5 22:44:21 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:44:07 -0400 I was parked there for the a work day, usually ~9 - ~6. >From: "Rob Sharp" >To: , "List-dc cycles" >Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket >Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:36:55 -0400 > >Were you parked there more than 4 hours? It's not quite clear from your >post. > >Rob > >On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:32:20 -0400, Chris Norloff wrote > > So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 > > hour spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket > > had "time of observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket > > writer wrote the ticket 'a little bit early'. > > > > Anybody know if the "time of observation" is when they first spot > > the bike, or when they actually write the ticket? I figure it's when > > they write the ticket, as it's generated from a handheld computer. > > > > Might be worth sending in to contest, though it's only $15. Kinda > > rankles me that the ticket writer did this. > > > > thanks, > > Chris > > >-- >Rob Sharp >rob@XXXXXX > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 01:19:01 2005 From: "Shigeru Honda" To: "Gary Foreman" , Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 01:22:54 -0400 Cool !! your pics looks better than those guys who charge $$ but couldn't find #881 AM (red duc 750ss)..... :( What kind of camera are you using? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon > > > http://gwfweb.com/cycles/050501a/ > > Gary > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 08:20:55 2005 From: "Fred Grefe" To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:22:48 -0400 X-ELNK-Trace: 3320233de968f2c594f5150ab1c16ac06b48d29827cfba209925db1890b95735c50090b003ea04cb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c > So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 hour spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket had "time of observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket writer wrote the ticket 'a little bit early'. Time of observation should be when he/she first saw your bike parked there. There should be another time for when the ticket was issued. -Fred From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 08:29:55 2005 From: "Stephen" To: Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:27:37 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] RE: 1985 XL600R stolen (& recovered) The bike turned up "abandoned" on a street in SE (First district) w/o license plate. Damage: - Lights crashed off from left and right. Breaking the fronts took "talent" as they're in under the bars. - Both footpegs bent out of shape - shifter bent out of shape - front cowling smashed up - hotwired - steering lock broken off - Stickers removed! - license plate AWOL - Iron Butt plate surround gone. Additions: - Handlebar cover .. what's that about? This bike starts easily when cold, but is almost impossible to start when hot. The thief (or whoever that person resold it to) apparently stalled it in one of his crashes and couldn't get it restarted. The police came along while dude was trying to start it and he took off. I'm not sure whether they got him or not, but DC's finest noted the bike had been 'tampered with' and didn't have a plate, collected the bike, and took it to the station. I picked it up on Monday and took it to a friend's house. The tall torquey 600 was evidently a real handful for a novice rider. The bike's not really worth that much, but I've spent a _bunch_ of time getting it working from a basket-case. The same night, presumably the same thieves, tried to make off with my Caprice but couldn't get the club off. They came back for that on Tuesday night. Cops have now been around here finger-printing twice my stuff twice in the same week. Stephen From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 08:33:03 2005 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:32:54 -0400 From: smthng else To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] CCS Race Photos from 5/1 Afternoon Thanks for the info on the transponders... I didn't know that racing was at that level of "gadgetry" other than for the odd few. Cool. BTW... forgot to mention it Gary, but you had some great depth of field on some of those crash shots. I've never been able to set a good DOF on action pictures. Nice work. --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 08:37:52 2005 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 05:37:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sounds like from the wordage of the sign that "metered" parking doesn't begin until 7:00 AM. So even if he was parked there at 3:00 AM he should not have been ticketed since he could have only been at the spot for a little over 2 hours of "metered" time. I'd fight it. Glenn --- Fred Grefe wrote: > > So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more > than 4 hours in a 4 hour > spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, > the ticket had "time of > observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket > writer wrote the ticket > 'a little bit early'. > > Time of observation should be when he/she first saw > your bike parked there. > There should be another time for when the ticket was > issued. > > -Fred > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 10:07:26 2005 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:07:14 -0400 From: Han Park To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Fight it. I used to park at M & Connecticut all day and never got a ticket for parking more than 4 hours. In fact, if you go down to the ticket office (near the Greyhound station) I'm pretty sure you'll get it dismissed, it's just the hassle factor of doing it. I went there once and total time was less than an hour, with the right timing and some aggressive city riding. It seems that if you take the time to show up in person DC is extremely lenient about dismissing parking tickets (probably because they write a lot of marginal tickets and they know it). If you have a half-a** excuse, they'll dismiss it. When I went there one person just claimed his car wasn't parked where it was with no other proof and got his ticket dismissed. Another lady had some long sob story about not removing her tags when she sold the car and got her ticket dismissed. Good luck. han From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 11:11:03 2005 From: "Shigeru Honda" To: "Han Park" , Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:10:49 -0400 No Sh*t, they gave you a ticket on M & Connecticut !! wtf, a rookie meter maid? That place don't even have parking meter (thank you DC...). --------------------- Shigeru Honda 99 750 SS (Track #881) 00 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport 02 MZ Skorpion Tour (Commuter) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han Park" To: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket > Fight it. I used to park at M & Connecticut all day and never got > a ticket for parking more than 4 hours. In fact, if you go down to > the ticket office (near the Greyhound station) I'm pretty sure you'll > get it dismissed, it's just the hassle factor of doing it. I went > there once and total time was less than an hour, with the right timing > and some aggressive city riding. > It seems that if you take the time to show up in person DC is > extremely lenient about dismissing parking tickets (probably because > they write a lot of marginal tickets and they know it). If you have a > half-a** excuse, they'll dismiss it. When I went there one person > just claimed his car wasn't parked where it was with no other proof > and got his ticket dismissed. Another lady had some long sob story > about not removing her tags when she sold the car and got her ticket > dismissed. Good luck. > > han > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 13:25:21 2005 From: rjmoran@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 17:25:03 +0000 X-Authenticated-Sender: cmptb3JhbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== Subject: [dc-cycles] Summit Point's New Shenandoah Circuit I was at Roger Lyle's track day at Summit Point's new Shenandoah course, yesterday. I figured I should comment for those of you who might be considering a track day or a race there. When you arrive at the track, as you drive over the bridge into the paddock, you can't help but notice the walls. They are everywhere, and they are close. Until that changes, I will never ride this course again. The course's only saving grace in this regard is that it is incredibly tight, tighter even than back part of Carolina Motorsports Park. Hopefully, this will mean that when the inevitable occurs, and someone smacks one of the concrete walls that surround the course, the speed involved will be minimal. The next thing you'll notice is THE WALLS. Really, the walls are ridiculous. I cannot stess this enough. I don't know what the hell they were thinking when they designed this thing, but it's insane, and not in a good way. Also, the concrete bowl section you've been hearing about is completely retarded--small enough that you actually have to slow down to make sure you enter it correctly, not wide enough for two bikes to negotiate safely, and the lip at the end of it will have you airborne at pretty much any speed. I don't know. I mean, what we do is generally not "safe" but this is really beyond the pale. Of course this is only my opinion, but I cannot recommend this track unless significant safety improvements are made. Rand Moran From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 13:44:17 2005 Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:44:09 -0400 From: Han Park To: Shigeru Honda Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX No I didn't get a ticket for parking more than 4 hours, I got a ticket for expired registration. han On 5/6/05, Shigeru Honda wrote: > No Sh*t, they gave you a ticket on M & Connecticut !! wtf, a rookie meter > maid? > That place don't even have parking meter (thank you DC...). > > --------------------- > Shigeru Honda > 99 750 SS (Track #881) > 00 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport > 02 MZ Skorpion Tour (Commuter) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Han Park" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket > > > Fight it. I used to park at M & Connecticut all day and never got > > a ticket for parking more than 4 hours. In fact, if you go down to > > the ticket office (near the Greyhound station) I'm pretty sure you'll > > get it dismissed, it's just the hassle factor of doing it. I went > > there once and total time was less than an hour, with the right timing > > and some aggressive city riding. > > It seems that if you take the time to show up in person DC is > > extremely lenient about dismissing parking tickets (probably because > > they write a lot of marginal tickets and they know it). If you have a > > half-a** excuse, they'll dismiss it. When I went there one person > > just claimed his car wasn't parked where it was with no other proof > > and got his ticket dismissed. Another lady had some long sob story > > about not removing her tags when she sold the car and got her ticket > > dismissed. Good luck. > > > > han > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 14:07:29 2005 From: "Shigeru Honda" To: "Han Park" Cc: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:07:20 -0400 oops, I read it wrong. Where do you park now? do you still work in the area? --------------------- Shigeru Honda 99 750 SS (Track #881) 00 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport 02 MZ Skorpion Tour (Commuter) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Han Park" To: "Shigeru Honda" Cc: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket No I didn't get a ticket for parking more than 4 hours, I got a ticket for expired registration. han On 5/6/05, Shigeru Honda wrote: > No Sh*t, they gave you a ticket on M & Connecticut !! wtf, a rookie meter > maid? > That place don't even have parking meter (thank you DC...). > > --------------------- > Shigeru Honda > 99 750 SS (Track #881) > 00 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport > 02 MZ Skorpion Tour (Commuter) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Han Park" > To: > Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket > > > Fight it. I used to park at M & Connecticut all day and never got > > a ticket for parking more than 4 hours. In fact, if you go down to > > the ticket office (near the Greyhound station) I'm pretty sure you'll > > get it dismissed, it's just the hassle factor of doing it. I went > > there once and total time was less than an hour, with the right timing > > and some aggressive city riding. > > It seems that if you take the time to show up in person DC is > > extremely lenient about dismissing parking tickets (probably because > > they write a lot of marginal tickets and they know it). If you have a > > half-a** excuse, they'll dismiss it. When I went there one person > > just claimed his car wasn't parked where it was with no other proof > > and got his ticket dismissed. Another lady had some long sob story > > about not removing her tags when she sold the car and got her ticket > > dismissed. Good luck. > > > > han > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 14:27:29 2005 From: "Shigeru Honda" To: , Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Summit Point's New Shenandoah Circuit Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 14:27:20 -0400 Yeah, I was there too. Since I was on MZ Skorpion, I thought it was somewhat OK for track days on smaller bikes. It's kind of like Pocono without the run off area but there's no way I will race there unless I'd be desperate for points to win the season or something (not that I care about...). Hey, maybe if nobody shows up for the race I can get an automatic 1st place or something. Anyway, I really hope they'll improve that track. --------------------- Shigeru Honda 99 750 SS (Track #881) 00 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport 02 MZ Skorpion Tour (Commuter) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Summit Point's New Shenandoah Circuit > I was at Roger Lyle's track day at Summit Point's new Shenandoah course, > yesterday. I figured I should comment for those of you who might > be considering a track day or a race there. > > When you arrive at the track, as you drive over the bridge into the paddock, you > can't help but notice the walls. They are everywhere, and they are close. Until > that changes, I will never ride this course again. The course's only saving > grace in this regard is that it is incredibly tight, tighter even than back part > of Carolina Motorsports Park. Hopefully, this will mean that when the inevitable occurs, and someone smacks one of the concrete walls that surround the course, the speed involved > will be minimal. > > The next thing you'll notice is THE WALLS. Really, the walls are ridiculous. I > cannot stess this enough. I don't know what the hell they were thinking when > they designed this thing, but it's insane, and not in a good way. > > Also, the concrete bowl section you've been hearing about is completely > retarded--small enough that you actually have to slow down to make sure you > enter it correctly, not wide enough for two bikes to negotiate safely, and the > lip at the end of it will have you airborne at pretty much any speed. > > I don't know. I mean, what we do is generally not "safe" but this is really > beyond the pale. Of course this is only my opinion, but I cannot recommend this > track unless significant safety improvements are made. > > Rand Moran > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 14:35:50 2005 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 13:35:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve McCollom Subject: Re: RE: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket To: rich hall , dc-cycles@XXXXXX FWIW, each of the 23 motorcycle parking meters at Vermont Ave. and H St. has two new stickers proclaiming the (not new) 4-hour limit. Last week I saw, for the first time in years, two fat meter maids* placing tickets on a few bikes at that location. Perhaps there is a campaign under way to crack down on the evil motorcycle commuters, and open up the parking spaces for all the bikers who ride downtown for lunch? Yeah, that must be it... *Sorry, I meant "two grossly overweight, waddling Parking Enforcement Officers". Steve >From: rich hall >I thought they didn't enforce that? I've parked at M & Conn and G & 15th >and never got that ticket. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 14:37:18 2005 From: rjmoran@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Summit Point's New Shenandoah Circuit Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:37:10 +0000 X-Authenticated-Sender: cmptb3JhbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== Shigeru has a valid point in this regard. He was riding his Mz (quite well and quickly, whenever I saw him) and I was on my RC51, so our perspectives in terms of track safety will differ according to the speeds being discussed. I think that someone on a smaller bike might reasonably consider a lightly populated track day there, but I still feel that racing there (on pretty much any kind of bike) would be extraordinarily dangerous. RPM From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 14:49:53 2005 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:49:36 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Summit Point's New Shenandoah Circuit At 02:37 PM 5/6/2005, rjmoran@XXXXXX wrote: >Shigeru has a valid point in this regard. He was riding his Mz (quite well and >quickly, whenever I saw him) and I was on my RC51, so our perspectives in >terms of track safety will differ according to the speeds being discussed. I >think that someone on a smaller bike might reasonably consider a lightly >populated track day there, but I still feel that racing there (on pretty much >any kind of bike) would be extraordinarily dangerous. > >RPM Nah, I'll just load up my saddlebags and cruise around the track listening to Bad Company on my Dyna Wide Glide. Hell, I won't be going over 30mph anyway. ;-) -aki From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 6 15:50:50 2005 Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:57:21 -0400 To: Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Subject: [dc-cycles] theft fwiw i occasionally add a hidden kill switch to the ignition circuit. and of course you can install more than one. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 09:12:25 2005 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:12:18 -0400 From: lisagoddard@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Chris Norloff wrote: So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 hour spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket had "time of observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket writer wrote the ticket 'a little bit early'. Anybody know if the "time of observation" is when they first spot the bike, or when they actually write the ticket? I figure it's when they write the ticket, as it's generated from a handheld computer. Might be worth sending in to contest, though it's only $15. Kinda rankles me that the ticket writer did this. Quite a few years back I fired off a few snail mail letters to D.C. asking what the point was about the four hour limit, explaining that all it did was encourage me to drive the cage and park in my office garage. The (lame) answer I got back was that Mayor Anthony Williams didn't want people to have to pay for parking meters after 6 or 7 pm to encourage evening shopping and dining. The answer didn't quite match my question and they never gave me an answer as to what a motorcyclist is supposed to do if he or she should be in the unfortunate position of having to work more than 4 hours a day. I was transferred back to the office in Bethesda shortly after this so I gave up on them. As far as not having to feed meters in the evening it's a shrewd idea. Cages are then allowed to park in bike spaces, usually knocking a few over as they maneuver in to the parking space, AND D.C. has a 10% restaurant tax so they will get the revenue that way instead. Coincedentally, did anyone ever see the short article in the Post about someone on the street in D.C. asking a meter maid for the time and the meter maid replying that she didn't know what time it was and wasn't wearing a watch. I think it was Dr. Gridlock. Lisa Goddard '95 VFR, with fresh damage '97 GSXR 600, track only ------------------------------------------------------ This message was sent using BOO.net's Webmail. http://www.boo.net/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 09:32:45 2005 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:32:43 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] FW: A week away I finally did it....took my first weeklong vacation in five years. No bike either....but some road time and of course the motorcyclist's eye for the details that matter when on two wheels. My trip took me to Miami, the Florida Keys and then back to Miami once more. Sunday Afternoon 1 May Ocean Drive, South Beach, Miami The first thing you notice is the throngs of people enjoying life outside....the second thing you notice is that the majority of them look very healthy and very happy. Life has the appearance of a permanent 365 day a year fantasy vacation. Saw five Ferraris on my first walk down the strip. As the sun set, saw a handful of bikers. The dress code varied from shorts and tees to jeans and a mesh jacket. Of more interest was the fact that even in gear, most riders were helmetless. Saw at least four dudes riding by with their helmets on their gas tanks. Ocean Drive would suck for sport bikes. The constant stop and go and waiting in the heated blast of engine exhaust would get old fast. The majority of bikes I saw were older model Kawasakis and Suzukis. A few choppers and bigger Harleys. The next two days involved some great meals, great people watching and of course the ocean. Prime Time Cafe (around 7th and Ocean) has the best breakfast ever. Tuesday Morning 3 May Driving to Key West Took the 1 out of my Miami. A crapload of traffic lights and a lot of waiting. Not many bikes. The road was flat, straight and I felt like I had awoken in strip mall hell. A life I do not really want. Saw less than three bikes between Miami and the Upper Keys. Think 45 miles an hour in a straight line. My R6 and I would have been hot and unhappy. Passing. Not recommended. A fair amount of fatalities on this road. Stopped in Key Largo for some snorkelling in the national park. Saw no bikes....saw some barracuda, sea turtles, rays and lots of little cast extras from Finding Nemo swimming around. Hit the road at 6:00 determined to make sunset in Key West. Views were magnificent and the seven mile bridge would have been heaven on two wheels. Saw my first crocodile crossing sign. Wonder what hitting a crocodile at speed would do to a sport bike and its rider? Watch out for Key deer. Lots of signs about them. Missed the sunset in Key West but saw it from roadside in the Lower Keys. Hit Key West circa 9:00 PM. A few cruisers around....again the theme seems to be older model sport bikes. Many of them repainted. Helmets are off and either on the tank or not present. No twisties anywhere. Cruising the strip at slow speed is the only option. Need a small cheap relatively clean place to stay in Key West? Try the Southern Cross Motel for $79.00 a night. I missed my bike some but not as much as I thought I would. Especially as I did not see much opportunity for rides other than the straight and narrow cruise options. Ate like a champion. Had some linguine with Key West Shrimp at Mangoes on Duval that was about the best pasta I have ever eaten. Like Key Lime Pie? Try that place on Carolina..half a block east of Duval. Mike's? Great dessert. The sunset at Mallory square is something everyone should witness. Talk about a moment that is so ultra chill but yet intense at the same time. Want to wonder if you are doing the right thing? wonder if you are in the right place and how you feel about your life. All these thoughts will hit you as you watch the sun go down. Key West at night is an adult playground with a zillion bars, pubs, watering holes and chains to take your dollars for alcohol. I ducked my nose in a fair share but did not indulge in the late night partying. I was happy with a drink or two and a great meal. For the bikers...Hog's Breath saloon seemed the place to go. Did not see that many bikes. Scooters; on the other hand; were more plentiful than rats on the DC water front. Isolated small groups of Harley riders and about one sport bike per block seemed to be the rule. Amazing trip...and I am still thinking about those sunsets. Feel free to mail me if you have any questions. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 09:48:08 2005 From: "rich hall" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, SV650_BALT_DC@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 09:47:59 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Spam - Free Boots, very used I have a pair of AGV Touring boots that might have enough life to get through this season. They're size 10. The tread on the bottom is getting very low. I hate to throw them away. Photo & description at http://www.agvsport.com/2004/2004/boots/touring/index.htm First come, first serve. I work in Tysons. Please respond off list. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 10:16:15 2005 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:16:10 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: , "rich hall" Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket They've left us alone before; perhaps this was a new ticket-writer. This was on C St. SW, behind the Dept. of Agriculture Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "rich hall" Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 19:59:35 -0400 >I thought they didn't enforce that? I've parked at M & Conn and G & 15th >and never got that ticket. > >>From: "Chris Norloff" >>Reply-To: >>To: "List-dc cycles" >>Subject: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket >>Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:32:20 -0400 >> >>So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 hour >>spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket had "time of >>observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket writer wrote the ticket >>'a little bit early'. >> >>Anybody know if the "time of observation" is when they first spot the bike, >>or when they actually write the ticket? I figure it's when they write the >>ticket, as it's generated from a handheld computer. >> >>Might be worth sending in to contest, though it's only $15. Kinda rankles >>me that the ticket writer did this. >> >>thanks, >>Chris >> > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 10:20:07 2005 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:20:04 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket Yes, I was parked more than 4 hr. I don't mind too much paying a legitimate ticket - the time stamp looked like the ticket writer may have fudged things. I do wish DC would do more to encourage people to commute in other ways than driving a car/truck/SUV. A closer look at the ticket showed time of observation as 9:19am, and time ticket was written as 1:29 ... *exactly* 4 hr. 10 min. later. Still suspicious, but what the heck. Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Rob Sharp" Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:36:55 -0400 >Were you parked there more than 4 hours? It's not quite clear from your post. > >Rob > >On Thu, 5 May 2005 19:32:20 -0400, Chris Norloff wrote >> So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 >> hour spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket >> had "time of observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket >> writer wrote the ticket 'a little bit early'. >> >> Anybody know if the "time of observation" is when they first spot >> the bike, or when they actually write the ticket? I figure it's when >> they write the ticket, as it's generated from a handheld computer. >> >> Might be worth sending in to contest, though it's only $15. Kinda >> rankles me that the ticket writer did this. >> >> thanks, >> Chris > > >-- >Rob Sharp >rob@XXXXXX > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 10:29:57 2005 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:29:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "James O'Connor" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket To: chris01@XXXXXX, List-dc cycles I've been following this and think I'm missing something. You were parked at M and Connecticut (actually on Rhode Island next to the BB&T bank)? - I park there everyday and have never ever seen a ticket on a bike. I also haven't seen any 4 hour limit notices, but admit I haven't looked for them. Maybe I am thinking the wrong parking area. - Jimmy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 14:54:46 2005 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:54:40 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: List-dc cycles , "James O'Connor" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket There were a couple threads spawned of my original. I got a "parked too long" ticket on C St. SW, between 12th & 14th, behind the Dept of Agriculture. There are signs designating 4-hr motorcycle parking there from 7am to 7pm. There used to be meters there, but they're currently headless. Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "James O'Connor" Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 07:29:46 -0700 (PDT) >I've been following this and think I'm missing something. > >You were parked at M and Connecticut (actually on Rhode Island next >to the BB&T bank)? - I park there everyday and have never ever seen >a ticket on a bike. I also haven't seen any 4 hour limit notices, >but admit I haven't looked for them. > >Maybe I am thinking the wrong parking area. > >- Jimmy > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 15:11:01 2005 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 12:10:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "James O'Connor" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket To: chris01@XXXXXX, List-dc cycles Ok, thanks for clearing me up. One possible way around this in the future is to cover the bike for the first half the day and then uncover it around hour #4 (you know, like 2 different bikes). Or just leave it covered - I'm not sure if the ticket trolls would actually stick the ticket to the cover or not. I may be underestimating their intelligence though. Either way, that stinks. It is a shame "they" make even the proper parking of a motorcycle an offense. - Jimmy --- Chris Norloff wrote: > There were a couple threads spawned of my original. > > I got a "parked too long" ticket on C St. SW, between 12th & 14th, > behind the Dept of Agriculture. There are signs designating 4-hr > motorcycle parking there from 7am to 7pm. There used to be meters > there, but they're currently headless. > > Chris __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 16:29:04 2005 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 16:28:37 -0400 From: skip CC: List-dc cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket two words: Spare Plates --skip, avoiding DC for similar reasons Chris Norloff wrote: > > So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 hour spot' ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket had "time of observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket writer wrote the ticket 'a little bit early'. > > Anybody know if the "time of observation" is when they first spot the bike, or when they actually write the ticket? I figure it's when they write the ticket, as it's generated from a handheld computer. > > Might be worth sending in to contest, though it's only $15. Kinda rankles me that the ticket writer did this. > > thanks, > Chris From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 19:24:36 2005 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 19:24:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket From: "John M. Stafford" To: Time of observation is definitely when a meter maid first spies a vehicle. In most outlying neighborhoods the DC meter maids run through a neighborhood, type all the license plates of the out-of-zone on on meter vehicles into their little satellite linked handheld computers (this is what generates the time of observation), then they return at a time slightly past the limit once per day and try to snag overtime vehicles. In downtown you can be really screwed because once one meter maid has fed your license plate into the system, any number of other meter maids with overlapping beats can download that info the first one entered in order to write your ticket. Enjoy, John M. Stafford ---------- From: "Chris Norloff" > So I return to my bike and have a 'parked more than 4 hours in a 4 hour spot' > ticket. Motorcycle parking starts at 7:00am, the ticket had "time of > observation" as 9:19am. So it appears the ticket writer wrote the ticket 'a > little bit early'. > > Anybody know if the "time of observation" is when they first spot the bike, or > when they actually write the ticket? I figure it's when they write the ticket, > as it's generated from a handheld computer. > > Might be worth sending in to contest, though it's only $15. Kinda rankles me > that the ticket writer did this. > > thanks, > Chris From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 19:24:37 2005 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 19:24:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket From: "John M. Stafford" To: List-dc cycles One word: VELCRO http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/30/nyregion/30scooters.html?8hpib Enjoy, John M. Stafford ----------- From: skip > two words: > > Spare Plates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 19:43:19 2005 Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 16:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "pltrgyst@XXXXXX" To: Julian Halton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Re: A week away --- Julian Halton wrote: > .... Like Key Lime Pie? Try that place on Carolina..half a > block east of Duval. Mike's? Great dessert. Too bad you didn't stop at Mangrove Mama's on the way down -- about 100 yards off Rt. 1 at (I believe) MM 20. Best in the world, by fairly common acclaim -- and it's like a trip back into a 60's hippie commune at the same time. > ....The sunset at Mallory > square is something everyone should witness. Agreed. Great music, one huge party, and then you see the navy ships heading out on night patrol just as the sun sets. Didn't happen to hear a duo named "One World," did you? It's also a great time to be up on a parasail. Kelly McGillis's restaurant in the original American Airlines headquarters building is kinda cool, too. Great, great place -- except during hurricane season. -- Larry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 9 22:58:38 2005 Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 22:59:40 -0400 To: "John M. Stafford" , From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket At 07:24 PM 5/9/05 -0400, John M. Stafford wrote: >Time of observation is definitely when a meter maid first spies a vehicle. >In most outlying neighborhoods the DC meter maids run through a >neighborhood, type all the license plates of the out-of-zone on on meter >vehicles into their little satellite linked handheld computers (this is what >generates the time of observation), then they return at a time slightly past >the limit once per day and try to snag overtime vehicles. So how do they know you were there for more than the 4 hour limit? That you were there 4 hours ago and again now doesn't mean you were there for 4 hours. Unless they monitor continuously, or close to it, they can't tell if you left for 3 hours in the middle or not. I suppose they could do the chalk trick...mark your tire and the ground with chalk...if the lines still line up, you haven't moved. So just go down every 3.5 hours and move the bike a bit... -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 00:16:56 2005 From: "scooteristi@XXXXXX" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 00:16:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket The answer is they don't know if you moved your vehicle or not. Hell, if you do move your vehicle, but return and park on the same side of the same block and a different meter maid is scouting that block you will get an overtime ticket because the system only notes "400 block C Street SW south side". Original Message: ----------------- From: Mike B. omni@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 22:59:40 -0400 To: scooteristi@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] YADCT - Yet Another DC Ticket At 07:24 PM 5/9/05 -0400, John M. Stafford wrote: >Time of observation is definitely when a meter maid first spies a vehicle. >In most outlying neighborhoods the DC meter maids run through a >neighborhood, type all the license plates of the out-of-zone on on meter >vehicles into their little satellite linked handheld computers (this is what >generates the time of observation), then they return at a time slightly past >the limit once per day and try to snag overtime vehicles. So how do they know you were there for more than the 4 hour limit? That you were there 4 hours ago and again now doesn't mean you were there for 4 hours. Unless they monitor continuously, or close to it, they can't tell if you left for 3 hours in the middle or not. I suppose they could do the chalk trick...mark your tire and the ground with chalk...if the lines still line up, you haven't moved. So just go down every 3.5 hours and move the bike a bit... -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 08:22:19 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:22:15 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow I know this has been discussed before but I can't remember the outcome. I am running Dunlop D218's on my R6. Every single ride, and I mean every single ride..I have to put air in my rear tire. Yesterday at 6:00PM it was inflated to 36 psi. This morning it is 30 psi. Saturday I inflated it to 36 psi. Sunday morning it was 28 psi. Is this a slow leak or what? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 08:33:25 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 05:33:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sounds like a leak to me. First I would check to make sure the valve it tight. After that, stick the back tire in water and look for bubbles. Glenn --- Julian Halton wrote: > > I know this has been discussed before but I can't > remember the outcome. > I am running Dunlop D218's on my R6. Every single > ride, and I mean > every single ride..I have to put air in my rear > tire. Yesterday at > 6:00PM it was inflated to 36 psi. This morning it > is 30 psi. Saturday > I inflated it to 36 psi. Sunday morning it was 28 > psi. > > Is this a slow leak or what? > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 08:50:54 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:47:39 -0400 From: Michael Troutman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow Julian Halton wrote: > >I know this has been discussed before but I can't remember the outcome. >I am running Dunlop D218's on my R6. Every single ride, and I mean >every single ride..I have to put air in my rear tire. Yesterday at >6:00PM it was inflated to 36 psi. This morning it is 30 psi. Saturday >I inflated it to 36 psi. Sunday morning it was 28 psi. > >Is this a slow leak or what? > > Sounds pretty fast actually. 8 lbs in 12 hours, you should be able to hear a hiss. I had a nail in my rear that dropped around 2 pounds a week, barely noticable, especially in the Spring with the tire air changing and all. -- _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 Fax 703.392.4665 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 08:58:31 2005 Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 08:58:27 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: , I see. I forgot to swap out my winter air. Julian Halton Group Logic julian@XXXXXX 703.527.7979 x 2338 -----Original Message----- From: Michael Troutman [mailto:mike@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow Julian Halton wrote: > >I know this has been discussed before but I can't remember the outcome. >I am running Dunlop D218's on my R6. Every single ride, and I mean >every single ride..I have to put air in my rear tire. Yesterday at >6:00PM it was inflated to 36 psi. This morning it is 30 psi. Saturday >I inflated it to 36 psi. Sunday morning it was 28 psi. > >Is this a slow leak or what? > > Sounds pretty fast actually. 8 lbs in 12 hours, you should be able to hear a hiss. I had a nail in my rear that dropped around 2 pounds a week, barely noticable, especially in the Spring with the tire air changing and all. -- _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 Fax 703.392.4665 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 09:31:52 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:31:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Ray To: Off-CamberCrawlers@XXXXXX, DC Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Re: Life Changes Well, I'm on the road. I got an earlier start, and headed down to Raleigh Sunday night, and from there to Highlands yesterday. The trailer tows fine, and the PPZJ has plenty of power, but could use a bit more brakes. Especially in the steep/twisty sections. The brakes were smoking a bit when I pulled into dad's driveway.... as always, the full details are at http://ar-traveler.blogspot.com/ Brian From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 09:59:40 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:56:24 -0400 From: Michael Troutman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] dccycles.com needs updates If anyone has an update for their dccycles.com member information, please email me. http://www.dccycles.com/memberinfo.htm If you have any pictures, stories, ride sheets, maps, etc you would like to post, just let me know. Off list of course. -- _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 Fax 703.392.4665 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 12:25:23 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:24:46 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 5/10/2005 10:47:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, glenn_dysart@XXXXXX writes: > After that, stick the back > tire in water and look for bubbles. Or just spritz it with soapy water on the bike and look for bubbles. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 12:37:12 2005 Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:37:09 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: , I don't have a rear wheel mount but I did have a bottle of windex. I sprayed around the valve stem and bead. No joy. I checked the sidewalls and tire for any thing like a tack or nail. No luck yet. No bubbles anywhere on the tire. My one question is after one week of not riding, why would the tire not be completely flat at a rate of 6 psi in 14 hours, I would have expected a flat tire. Julian Halton Group Logic julian@XXXXXX 703.527.7979 x 2338 -----Original Message----- From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX [mailto:PenguinBiker@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow In a message dated 5/10/2005 10:47:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, glenn_dysart@XXXXXX writes: > After that, stick the back > tire in water and look for bubbles. Or just spritz it with soapy water on the bike and look for bubbles. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 12:54:58 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 09:54:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "James O'Connor" Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow To: Julian Halton , PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sounds to me the guts of your tire's valve stem may be loose. I've had this problem with a cage tire before - would loose X psi, pretty much overnight, but would not completely deflate. Turned out to be the valve stem. Any auto parts store will have a "valve stem tool" for a couple of bucks. Use this gadget to tighten (righty tighty) the valve within your valve stem. Just don't put too much muscle behind it or it'll break and then you'll be unhappy. Also, be sure you are running valve stem caps. It could also be the valve stem itself. With your water bottle, spray around the base of the valve stem while wiggling it. It could have cracks where it mounts through the rim and may only leak under certain conditions. If no holes in tire and a solid bead, I suspect the valve stem. Your wheels aren't chrome, are they? Chrome wheels are notorious for poor bead sets and often let air slip out. - Jimmy --- Julian Halton wrote: > I don't have a rear wheel mount but I did have a bottle of windex. > I > sprayed around the valve stem and bead. No joy. I checked the > sidewalls > and tire for any thing like a tack or nail. No luck yet. No > bubbles > anywhere on the tire. My one question is after one week of not > riding, > why would the tire not be completely flat at a rate of 6 psi in 14 > hours, I would have expected a flat tire. Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 13:19:17 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:19:04 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] How slow is slow To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 5/10/2005 12:37:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, julian@XXXXXX writes: > My one question is after one week of not riding, > why would the tire not be completely flat at a rate of 6 psi in 14 > hours, I would have expected a flat tire. A couple a thoughts about that. One: If: you think of pressure as the desire the air has to escape (essentially true) then as the pressure falls the desire to escape falls, less and less air gets out. Any slow leak will slow with loss of pressure. Two: If what you have is the remains of a nail or something similar then it will be more or less plugging the hole. When you ride the tire flexes and the nail will wiggle in the hole letting more air leak out as you ride. Or it could be that heat from riding softens the rubber letting it relax and the hole open up a bit. Or it may be a black hole... PS. I prefer using dishwashing soap mixed in water to check for leaks, it tends to bubble a lot more then Windex. If you do not have a spritzer then you can just pour it on the tire, _and_ valve stem, from a cup. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 13:36:52 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:36:41 -0500 (CDT) From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Exhaust - cheap? I have a 74' Honda CB-750 with a 4-in-1 exhaust. When the muffler fell off last week - that was my fault. Parts of a vehicle not on tight enough? Definately my fault even if I didn't know. When the first 50 cars went around it while I was walking to go retrieve it - that was nice. When the last few trucks *pancaked* it - that was just plain careless of them. So! I need a new muffler. I went to JC Whitney's web site - and they've got cheap exhausts ($30) but not for a 2-1/2" pipe. I don't need a shiny chrome 'performance' $300 muffler - I need a 'make less sound' cheap muffler. And I'm going to *weld* it on this time. [was clamped and bolted for a year...] Any advice? Just get the 1-3/4" cheap muffler and a reducer? Have another vendor in mind? Thanks, Erick From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 13:53:22 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:53:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Exhaust - cheap? To: hva5hiaa@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX I remember seeing an FJ-1100 last year that had a "Cherry Bomb" muffler welded to the header. It worked. You don't need to limit yourself to motorcycle-only solutions particularly if 'cheap' is one of the criteria for the new muffler. Leon. --- hva5hiaa@XXXXXX wrote: > I have a 74' Honda CB-750 with a 4-in-1 exhaust. > When the muffler fell off > last week - that was my fault. Parts of a vehicle > not on tight enough? > Definately my fault even if I didn't know. When the > first 50 cars went around > it while I was walking to go retrieve it - that was > nice. When the last few > trucks *pancaked* it - that was just plain careless > of them. > > So! I need a new muffler. I went to JC Whitney's > web site - and they've got > cheap exhausts ($30) but not for a 2-1/2" pipe. I > don't need a shiny chrome > 'performance' $300 muffler - I need a 'make less > sound' cheap muffler. And I'm > going to *weld* it on this time. [was clamped and > bolted for a year...] Any > advice? Just get the 1-3/4" cheap muffler and a > reducer? Have another vendor > in mind? > > Thanks, > Erick > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 14:00:44 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:00:39 -0400 From: Robert To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Exhaust - cheap? Supertrapp mufflers aren't expensive at all, and come in "universal fit" applications that you can match to inlet diameter. http://www.supertrapp.com/product_sections/cat.asp?CatID=36 I had one on my Honda two-banger, but it was a car... 1972 Honda 600 sedan. Robert Verde > --- hva5hiaa@XXXXXX wrote: > > I have a 74' Honda CB-750 with a 4-in-1 exhaust. > > When the muffler fell off > > last week - that was my fault. Parts of a vehicle > > not on tight enough? > > Definately my fault even if I didn't know. When the > > first 50 cars went around > > it while I was walking to go retrieve it - that was > > nice. When the last few > > trucks *pancaked* it - that was just plain careless > > of them. > > > > So! I need a new muffler. I went to JC Whitney's > > web site - and they've got > > cheap exhausts ($30) but not for a 2-1/2" pipe. I > > don't need a shiny chrome > > 'performance' $300 muffler - I need a 'make less > > sound' cheap muffler. And I'm > > going to *weld* it on this time. [was clamped and > > bolted for a year...] Any > > advice? Just get the 1-3/4" cheap muffler and a > > reducer? Have another vendor > > in mind? > > > > Thanks, > > Erick > > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 19:01:20 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 16:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "pltrgyst@XXXXXX" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] For sale: VF500F Interceptor 500, 1984 For sale, project bike: 1984 Honda VF500F Interceptor 500. The good news: 8,016 original miles, good Corbin seat, always garaged (exception below); Honda service manual and another VF500F book included. The bad news: missing right handlebar cluster -- brake lever, reservoir, switches, courtesy of unauthorized cannibalization by Crossroads Cycles; will need tires. Crossroads had it running fine, but it had the early Interceptor "Honda Tic," so I had them supposedly looking for a head for the engine. They kept it for months, and did nothing, apparently. They must have stored it outside part of the time, because they returned it dirty, full of leaves, with some rust (it had zero rust when I gave it to them), and with the clear coat peeling off the rear of the gas tank (see the tank picture) -- and charged me $350 for the privilege of having them steal parts off it. I just don't have time to play with it, and the wife says it's got to leave the garage -- so it's going. (Duh.) 8;) Pictures at: http://www.xhost.org/vf500f Best offer, or first $500. Pick up only in Old Town Alexandria. (I don't have a truck.) emails to vf500f@XXXXXX, please. Tnx -- Larry __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 10 22:50:49 2005 Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:59:10 -0400 From: Bob McKeithen To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20040701 (2.0) at filter05.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: [dc-cycles] Honda two banger (car) God I thought I was the only one in the world to have owned one of those. About the same top end as a 36hp VW beetle, but a lot more drivable. With studded tires it kicked ass in ice racing in Wisconsin. B0b From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 06:46:14 2005 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 03:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] FW: A week away To: Julian Halton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX nice write-up, julian. i've been to key west a few times on two wheels, and you described it well. helmet law was still in force last time down. if ever you don't need a helmet, it's limping down ocean drive in south beach or key west's duval. --- Julian Halton wrote: > > > > > I finally did it....took my first weeklong vacation in > five years. No > bike either....but some road time and of course the > motorcyclist's eye > for the details that matter when on two wheels. My trip > took me to > Miami, the Florida Keys and then back to Miami once more. > > > Sunday Afternoon 1 May > Ocean Drive, South Beach, Miami > > The first thing you notice is the throngs of people > enjoying life > outside....the second thing you notice is that the > majority of them look > very healthy and very happy. Life has the appearance of a > permanent 365 > day a year fantasy vacation. Saw five Ferraris on my > first walk down > the strip. As the sun set, saw a handful of bikers. The > dress code > varied from shorts and tees to jeans and a mesh jacket. > Of more > interest was the fact that even in gear, most riders were > helmetless. > Saw at least four dudes riding by with their helmets on > their gas tanks. > Ocean Drive would suck for sport bikes. The constant > stop and go and > waiting in the heated blast of engine exhaust would get > old fast. The > majority of bikes I saw were older model Kawasakis and > Suzukis. A few > choppers and bigger Harleys. The next two days involved > some great > meals, great people watching and of course the ocean. > Prime Time Cafe > (around 7th and Ocean) has the best breakfast ever. > > Tuesday Morning 3 May > Driving to Key West > > Took the 1 out of my Miami. A crapload of traffic lights > and a lot of > waiting. Not many bikes. The road was flat, straight > and I felt like I > had awoken in strip mall hell. A life I do not really > want. Saw less > than three bikes between Miami and the Upper Keys. Think > 45 miles an > hour in a straight line. My R6 and I would have been hot > and unhappy. > Passing. Not recommended. A fair amount of fatalities > on this road. > Stopped in Key Largo for some snorkelling in the national > park. Saw no > bikes....saw some barracuda, sea turtles, rays and lots > of little cast > extras from Finding Nemo swimming around. Hit the road > at 6:00 > determined to make sunset in Key West. Views were > magnificent and the > seven mile bridge would have been heaven on two wheels. > Saw my first > crocodile crossing sign. Wonder what hitting a crocodile > at speed would > do to a sport bike and its rider? > > Watch out for Key deer. Lots of signs about them. Missed > the sunset in > Key West but saw it from roadside in the Lower Keys. > Hit Key West > circa 9:00 PM. A few cruisers around....again the theme > seems to be > older model sport bikes. Many of them repainted. > Helmets are off and > either on the tank or not present. No twisties anywhere. > Cruising the > strip at slow speed is the only option. Need a small > cheap relatively > clean place to stay in Key West? Try the Southern Cross > Motel for > $79.00 a night. > > I missed my bike some but not as much as I thought I > would. Especially > as I did not see much opportunity for rides other than > the straight and > narrow cruise options. Ate like a champion. Had some > linguine with Key > West Shrimp at Mangoes on Duval that was about the best > pasta I have > ever eaten. Like Key Lime Pie? Try that place on > Carolina..half a > block east of Duval. Mike's? Great dessert. The sunset > at Mallory > square is something everyone should witness. Talk about > a moment that > is so ultra chill but yet intense at the same time. Want > to wonder if > you are doing the right thing? wonder if you are in the > right place and > how you feel about your life. All these thoughts will > hit you as you > watch the sun go down. Key West at night is an adult > playground with a > zillion bars, pubs, watering holes and chains to take > your dollars for > alcohol. I ducked my nose in a fair share but did not > indulge in the > late night partying. I was happy with a drink or two and > a great meal. > For the bikers...Hog's Breath saloon seemed the place to > go. Did not > see that many bikes. Scooters; on the other hand; were > more plentiful > than rats on the DC water front. Isolated small groups > of Harley riders > and about one sport bike per block seemed to be the rule. > > Amazing trip...and I am still thinking about those > sunsets. Feel free > to mail me if you have any questions. > > > Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell) - http://www.murphygimer.com - http://www.mgtitlellc.com Discover Yahoo! 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Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 09:28:45 2005 From: "Altaan Choudhry" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:28:35 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions Does anybody have good driving directions to the Toronto, Canada area from the Washington DC area? --Altaan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 10:13:10 2005 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:12:35 -0400 From: skip To: Altaan Choudhry CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=McLean,+VA&daddr=Toronto,+Canada&hl=en Altaan Choudhry wrote: > > Does anybody have good driving directions to the Toronto, Canada area from > the Washington DC area? > > --Altaan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 10:19:25 2005 Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:19:22 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: "skip" , "Altaan Choudhry" Cc: There are many fun ways to go....the easiest is to shoot right up highway 81, cross the border and then take 401 West. I am sure there are many interesting back roads ways to discover. Julian Halton Group Logic julian@XXXXXX 703.527.7979 x 2338 -----Original Message----- From: skip [mailto:skip@XXXXXX] To: Altaan Choudhry Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=McLean,+VA&daddr=Toronto,+Canada&hl=en Altaan Choudhry wrote: > > Does anybody have good driving directions to the Toronto, Canada area > from the Washington DC area? > > --Altaan From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 10:35:20 2005 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Thompson Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions To: Julian Halton , skip , Altaan Choudhry Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Watch yourself once you get into Toronto. There is a toll highway that will just take your picture and mail you the bill (yes, even to the USA, it happened to me when I went back in October). If I remember right, that highway is called the QEW...just be sure and stay off of it if you want to avoid paying tolls. Nick --- Julian Halton wrote: > There are many fun ways to go....the easiest is to > shoot right up > highway 81, cross the border and then take 401 West. > I am sure there are > many interesting back roads ways to discover. > > > > > Julian Halton > Group Logic > julian@XXXXXX > 703.527.7979 x 2338 > > -----Original Message----- > From: skip [mailto:skip@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:13 AM > To: Altaan Choudhry > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions > > http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=McLean,+VA&daddr=Toronto,+Canada&hl=en > > Altaan Choudhry wrote: > > > > Does anybody have good driving directions to the > Toronto, Canada area > > from the Washington DC area? > > > > --Altaan > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 10:38:51 2005 Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:38:49 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: "Nick Thompson" , "skip" , "Altaan Choudhry" Cc: And on one of Toronto's main drags Younge street- you canonly make right turns at certain times...so be careful or it is ticklet time! Julian Halton Group Logic julian@XXXXXX 703.527.7979 x 2338 -----Original Message----- From: Nick Thompson [mailto:sfdaytona@XXXXXX] To: Julian Halton; skip; Altaan Choudhry Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions Watch yourself once you get into Toronto. There is a toll highway that will just take your picture and mail you the bill (yes, even to the USA, it happened to me when I went back in October). If I remember right, that highway is called the QEW...just be sure and stay off of it if you want to avoid paying tolls. Nick --- Julian Halton wrote: > There are many fun ways to go....the easiest is to shoot right up > highway 81, cross the border and then take 401 West. > I am sure there are > many interesting back roads ways to discover. > > > > > Julian Halton > Group Logic > julian@XXXXXX > 703.527.7979 x 2338 > > -----Original Message----- > From: skip [mailto:skip@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:13 AM > To: Altaan Choudhry > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions > > http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=McLean,+VA&daddr=Toronto,+Canada&hl=en > > Altaan Choudhry wrote: > > > > Does anybody have good driving directions to the > Toronto, Canada area > > from the Washington DC area? > > > > --Altaan > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 10:43:49 2005 X-Sasl-Enc: Qo/SUdWPfnJRctiVYG/nS8fm488bwMEoJia86PewRtE/ 1115822620 From: "Louis F. Caplan" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:43:40 -0400 Sounds like it might have been the 407. http://www.407etr.com/tolls/tolls.asp Sounds like a good way to do it (as long as they give notice though). Would avoid those huge lines at the end of the NJ Turnpike for those who don't have the EZPass. Louis On Wed, 11 May 2005 07:35:13 -0700 (PDT), "Nick Thompson" said: > Watch yourself once you get into Toronto. There is a > toll highway that will just take your picture and mail > you the bill (yes, even to the USA, it happened to me > when I went back in October). If I remember right, > that highway is called the QEW...just be sure and stay > off of it if you want to avoid paying tolls. > > > Nick > > > > --- Julian Halton wrote: > > There are many fun ways to go....the easiest is to > > shoot right up > > highway 81, cross the border and then take 401 West. > > I am sure there are > > many interesting back roads ways to discover. > > > > > > > > > > Julian Halton > > Group Logic > > julian@XXXXXX > > 703.527.7979 x 2338 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: skip [mailto:skip@XXXXXX] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 10:13 AM > > To: Altaan Choudhry > > Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > > Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions > > > > > http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=McLean,+VA&daddr=Toronto,+Canada&hl=en > > > > Altaan Choudhry wrote: > > > > > > Does anybody have good driving directions to the > > Toronto, Canada area > > > from the Washington DC area? > > > > > > --Altaan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail Mobile > Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail > ======= "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Fairfax, VA Pls consider helping me support the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation: http://www.the-caplans.us/ride4kids From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 10:49:20 2005 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:49:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX And you paid this? --- Nick Thompson wrote: > Watch yourself once you get into Toronto. There is a > toll highway that will just take your picture and > mail > you the bill (yes, even to the USA, it happened to > me > when I went back in October). If I remember right, > that highway is called the QEW...just be sure and > stay > off of it if you want to avoid paying tolls. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 15:37:37 2005 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:37:34 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Summit Point 16 May Heading out for a track day this Monday. I am going solo and am planning on riding my bike out there which means I am counting on the fact that both I and my bike will be in shape for the ride back. Any tips from the track day vets on this list? It is my first time at Summit Point. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 16:03:01 2005 From: "Shigeru Honda" To: "Julian Halton" , Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Summit Point 16 May Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:02:52 -0400 May 16th Monday, that's a NESBA event. Unfortunately I won't be going that day... (but then, I might...) if you are riding there solo; bring some tools, DUCT TAPE, drinking water and make sure to fill up gas right before arriving at the track. let's see, at the paddock area; find a good shade & drink plenty of water between sessions. try to make friends to borrow tools... Check the tire pressure before getting on the track on the track; Don't push to hard. Tell the control rider that this is your first time, he'll be glad to help you out. Follow the control rider and remember the line for each turns. Don't be afraid of the concrete surface on the turns. Stay on the concrete as much as possible. Most of all RELAX, look at the exit of turn. There will be red maker cones, aim for those. Check brake pads before heading home. Good luck & have fun, you will be hooked --------------------- Shigeru Honda 99 750 SS (Track #881) 00 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport 02 MZ Skorpion Tour (Commuter) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Summit Point 16 May > > Heading out for a track day this Monday. I am going solo and am > planning on riding my bike out there which means I am counting on the > fact that both I and my bike will be in shape for the ride back. Any > tips from the track day vets on this list? It is my first time at Summit > Point. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 17:43:50 2005 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:43:40 -0400 From: Thomas Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Summit Point 16 May My advice to anyone who drives their vehicle to the track: Get a trailer. > > Heading out for a track day this Monday. I am going solo and am > > planning on riding my bike out there which means I am counting on the > > fact that both I and my bike will be in shape for the ride back. Any > > tips from the track day vets on this list? It is my first time at Summit > > Point. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 11 18:31:52 2005 Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:31:44 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Julian Halton Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Summit Point 16 May Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I think i have a hook up for you, to get your bike trailered up there, and put you in touch with some good people. I'll talk to my folks and get back to you. Post that 5/11/05, Julian Halton wrote: > > Heading out for a track day this Monday. I am going solo and am > planning on riding my bike out there which means I am counting on the > fact that both I and my bike will be in shape for the ride back. Any > tips from the track day vets on this list? It is my first time at Summit > Point. > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 12 17:30:56 2005 Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 15:30:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "pltrgyst@XXXXXX" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] somewhat OT: free to good home Older, lightly used 10" Sears heavy-duty radial arm saw. Just the thing for building those cycle ramps, building a bike lift, or crating up a sold bike. Fine working condition, 4-legged steel platform, could use a new particle board work surface (about $40 from Sears). Free to the first to call and arrange a *quick* pick-up in Old Town Alexandria. (Sorry for the OT, but the wife has spoken, and I'm desperate!) -- Larry (pltrgyst@XXXXXX or 703.549.2624 (home)) Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 12 19:45:12 2005 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "'Julian Halton'" , Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Summit Point 16 May Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 20:44:49 -0400 I'm interested to hear how your day went. I didn't make this one...but I've done many. Gary I've stopped 27,395 spam and fraud messages. You can too! One month FREE spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/safetybarsig/?rc=zfy4hl -----Original Message----- From: Julian Halton [mailto:julian@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Summit Point 16 May Heading out for a track day this Monday. I am going solo and am planning on riding my bike out there which means I am counting on the fact that both I and my bike will be in shape for the ride back. Any tips from the track day vets on this list? It is my first time at Summit Point. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 12 23:41:31 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 00:08:33 -0400 To: "pltrgyst@XXXXXX" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] somewhat OT: free to good home At 03:30 PM 5/12/05 -0700, pltrgyst@XXXXXX wrote: >condition, 4-legged steel platform, could use a new >particle board work surface (about $40 from Sears). Or make your own. MDF is about $15 a sheet at Home Depot and probably at Lowe's too (~4'x~8'...enough for several radial arm saw work surfaces). If this saw is anything like my dad's was, the work surface is just a flat sheet of the right size with some holes in it here and there to fasten it to the metal base, and a few notches on the back side where the fence clamps fit in...a router will do those. We covered his with a bit of 1/4" plywood, so it could be replaced when too chewed up without having to re-make the table itself. Worked well for years like that. Sounds like a great offer...somebody will grab it quick, I'm sure. I'd love it, but I have no space left for something that size. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 09:58:34 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:58:39 -0400 From: Laura Roach To: Gary Foreman Cc: "'Julian Halton'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Summit Point 16 May > Heading out for a track day this Monday. I am going solo and am planning >on riding my bike out there which means I am counting on the fact that both >I and my bike will be in shape for the ride back. Any tips from the track >day vets on this list? It is my first time at Summit Point. > > > Julian, Look for the SpeedWerks trailer. My husband Brian, "Roach", is a DC Cycles member and he will be at the track day to help out. We are going to be at about 1-2 track days each month with NESBA helping with suspension set up, helping answer questions, etc. I wish I was going to be there, but I'll be in California. Stop by and say hi to him and he will help you out with your first track day jitters. :) Laura Roach www.speedwerks.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 10:55:38 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:55:14 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Julian Halton Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Summit Point 16 May Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Checked with them sorry no happs. Only one guy is going and the pickup is loaded, and the other teamate is taking the trailer elsewhere. On 5/11/05, Danny Motorcycle wrote: > I think i have a hook up for you, to get your bike trailered up there, > and put you in touch with some good people. I'll talk to my folks > and get back to you. > > > Post that 5/11/05, Julian Halton wrote: > > > > Heading out for a track day this Monday. I am going solo and am > > planning on riding my bike out there which means I am counting on the > > fact that both I and my bike will be in shape for the ride back. Any > > tips from the track day vets on this list? It is my first time at Summit > > Point. > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 11:56:19 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:55:58 -0400 You could go up RT 15 - to RT 17/I390 - I90 and go up through Buffalo, then you get to see Niagara falls. Rob On Wed, 11 May 2005 07:49:09 -0700 (PDT), Glenn Dysart wrote > And you paid this? > > --- Nick Thompson wrote: > > Watch yourself once you get into Toronto. There is a > > toll highway that will just take your picture and > > mail > > you the bill (yes, even to the USA, it happened to > > me > > when I went back in October). If I remember right, > > that highway is called the QEW...just be sure and > > stay > > off of it if you want to avoid paying tolls. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 12:31:03 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:30:45 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] VFR question VFR buddies I have a question. On the rear wheel the large nut that you would lose to adjust the wheel/chain , exactly what size is that and where the heck can I by a socket that large. I have checked home depot and an auto store and they don't have anything large enough. I don't care about quality, I will probably use it once for this job and thats about it. Thanx Rob -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 12:37:06 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: "Rob Sharp" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR question Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:36:50 -0400 Just answered my own question. I don't even need to touch that giant nut to adjust the chain :) It's a small pinch bolt. Rob On Fri, 13 May 2005 13:30:45 -0400, Rob Sharp wrote > VFR buddies I have a question. > > On the rear wheel the large nut that you would lose to adjust the wheel/chain > , exactly what size is that and where the heck can I by a socket > that large. I have checked home depot and an auto store and they > don't have anything large enough. > > I don't care about quality, I will probably use it once for this job > and thats about it. > > Thanx > > Rob > > -- > Rob Sharp > rob@XXXXXX -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 12:40:52 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:37:13 -0400 From: Mike Troutman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR question I think it was like a 23mm, but I am not sure now. My father had one in his toolchest he contriubuted to the cause. I am guessing Sears would have one. I would have to pull out the service manual (pdf) to find the exact size. Rob Sharp wrote: >VFR buddies I have a question. > >On the rear wheel the large nut that you would lose to adjust the wheel/chain >, exactly what size is that and where the heck can I by a socket that large. >I have checked home depot and an auto store and they don't have anything large >enough. > >I don't care about quality, I will probably use it once for this job and thats >about it. > >Thanx > >Rob > >-- >Rob Sharp >rob@XXXXXX > > > -- _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 Fax 703.392.4665 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 13:01:39 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:07:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR question To: "Rob Sharp" Cc: "DC-Cycles" From: "garcia oliver" "Rob Sharp" writes: >On the rear wheel the large nut that you would lose to adjust the >wheel/chain >, exactly what size is that and where the heck can I by a socket that >large. >I have checked home depot and an auto store and they don't have anything >large >enough. Adjustable (e.g., 'crescent') wrench will work. > > >I don't care about quality, I will probably use it once for this job and >thats >about it. Chains need regular adjustment. --garcia From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 14:17:39 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:17:15 -0400 From: smthng else To: Rob Sharp Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR question Cc: DC-Cycles On 5/13/05, Rob Sharp wrote: > Just answered my own question. I don't even need to touch that giant nut to > adjust the chain :) It's a small pinch bolt. > > Rob Hey Rob, I could be wrong, but that doesn't sound good, IMO. I've never had a Honda with a chain, so I'm basing this off my Yamama work but I can't see it being much different... If you were able to move the wheel without loosening the axle bolt, I'd think you definately need to check the torque on that axle bolt. I think the pinch bolts are used for adjustment, but the axle bolt should be the one doing most of the work holding the tire in place. Every time I've had to do a chain adjustment, I've had to loosen the axle bolt and then use the pinch bolts to adjust the tension. Once that's done, retighten the axle bolt to spec, then tighten the pinch bolts to lock it all in place. Of course you'd need a real socket and a torque wrench to adequately tighten the ale bolt. I'm pretty sure I have a set from 20-28 mm and can check when I get home if you like. Again, this is based off of Yamama experience and Honda may do something a bit odd, but I'd double check a service manual or something if I could. --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 14:32:59 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:32:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "James O'Connor" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR question To: you@XXXXXX, Rob Sharp Cc: DC-Cycles Good point. I concur. At least on my old Kawasaki, the axle was held in place by said large bolt/nut, which was the axle. To adjust chain or wheel, you had to loosen the axle nut. Then you could use the small adjuster nuts at both ends of the swingarm to change the position of the wheel. Lots of folks break the plates at the end of the swing arms trying to turn the adjusters, before loosening the axle nut. Your wheel should not be able to be shifted, even with the adjusters completely loose. The axle nut should be holding the wheel where it is. If you can shift it, you should definitely check the torque on the axle nut. - Jimmy --- smthng else wrote: > On 5/13/05, Rob Sharp wrote: > > Just answered my own question. I don't even need to touch that > giant nut to > > adjust the chain :) It's a small pinch bolt. > > > > Rob > > Hey Rob, I could be wrong, but that doesn't sound good, IMO. I've > never had a Honda with a chain, so I'm basing this off my Yamama > work > but I can't see it being much different... > > If you were able to move the wheel without loosening the axle bolt, > I'd think you definately need to check the torque on that axle > bolt. > I think the pinch bolts are used for adjustment, but the axle bolt > should be the one doing most of the work holding the tire in place. > > Every time I've had to do a chain adjustment, I've had to loosen > the > axle bolt and then use the pinch bolts to adjust the tension. Once > that's done, retighten the axle bolt to spec, then tighten the > pinch > bolts to lock it all in place. Of course you'd need a real socket > and > a torque wrench to adequately tighten the ale bolt. I'm pretty > sure I > have a set from 20-28 mm and can check when I get home if you like. > > Again, this is based off of Yamama experience and Honda may do > something a bit odd, but I'd double check a service manual or > something if I could. > > --smthng > http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ > > Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 14:35:19 2005 Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR question From: lister lynch To: DC-Cycles Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 15:33:51 -0400 The VFR uses a single sided swingarm. The pinch bolt is what clamps the eccentric hub into the end of the swingarm. You loosen the pinch bolt and rotate the eccentric hub to adjust the chain. The only reason you need to take that big azz nut off is to replace the hub bearings or cush drive. Mike On Fri, 2005-05-13 at 15:17, smthng else wrote: > On 5/13/05, Rob Sharp wrote: > > Just answered my own question. I don't even need to touch that giant nut to > > adjust the chain :) It's a small pinch bolt. > > > > Rob > > Hey Rob, I could be wrong, but that doesn't sound good, IMO. I've > never had a Honda with a chain, so I'm basing this off my Yamama work > but I can't see it being much different... > > If you were able to move the wheel without loosening the axle bolt, > I'd think you definately need to check the torque on that axle bolt. > I think the pinch bolts are used for adjustment, but the axle bolt > should be the one doing most of the work holding the tire in place. > Every time I've had to do a chain adjustment, I've had to loosen the > axle bolt and then use the pinch bolts to adjust the tension. Once > that's done, retighten the axle bolt to spec, then tighten the pinch > bolts to lock it all in place. Of course you'd need a real socket and > a torque wrench to adequately tighten the ale bolt. I'm pretty sure I > have a set from 20-28 mm and can check when I get home if you like. > > Again, this is based off of Yamama experience and Honda may do > something a bit odd, but I'd double check a service manual or > something if I could. > > --smthng > http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 14:39:08 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:38:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "James O'Connor" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] VFR question To: lister lynch , DC-Cycles Oh ok, I retract my previous post then ;). My ZRX uses eccentrics too, so I know what you mean. I was thinking the VFR had a setup similar to my old ex500, but oops. - Jimmy --- lister lynch wrote: > The VFR uses a single sided swingarm. The pinch bolt is what > clamps the > eccentric hub into the end of the swingarm. You loosen the pinch > bolt > and rotate the eccentric hub to adjust the chain. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 14:42:06 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 12:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I highly recommend US6. Take it all the way across PA and see the grand canyon of the east. was very beautiful in foliage season. Then when you're about due south of Buffalo, turn north and hop up and down the hills. It was late Oct when I did it and it was wierd, the hills were freezing, the hollows warm. I had to stop and get a hot chocolate at a McD's at like 9pm on a sunday (only place open in hicksville) to thaw out. Got to Niagara around 1am and just went into the park and slept under some trees. Got a rude awakening at about 3:30 by the park ranger who said, this park is closed at dark! But he let me go back to bed. woke up to ducks, geese and morning joggers on the footpaths. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 15:36:31 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 16:36:14 -0400 Actually the grand canyon of the east is Letchworth State Park. Which is off I390. Just about 40 miles south of Rochester. It's freakin awesome. http://www.letchworthpark.com/ On Fri, 13 May 2005 12:41:45 -0700 (PDT), matthew patton wrote > I highly recommend US6. Take it all the way across PA and see the grand > canyon of the east. was very beautiful in foliage season. Then when > you're about due south of Buffalo, turn north and hop up and down the > hills. It was late Oct when I did it and it was wierd, the hills were > freezing, the hollows warm. I had to stop and get a hot chocolate at > a McD's at like 9pm on a sunday (only place open in hicksville) to thaw > out. Got to Niagara around 1am and just went into the park and slept > under some trees. Got a rude awakening at about 3:30 by the park ranger > who said, this park is closed at dark! But he let me go back to bed. > woke up to ducks, geese and morning joggers on the footpaths. -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 16:04:13 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:03:49 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Rob Sharp wrote: > Actually the grand canyon of the east is Letchworth State Park. > Which is off I390. Just about 40 miles south of Rochester. I stand corrected. I visited the Grand Canyon of PA. http://www.visittiogapa.com/ Gotta do the Rochester one next time. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 13 22:23:23 2005 Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 20:22:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Schmidt To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Summit Point and FS:Icon Neo Daytona Hey everyone, Got two questions for everyone, well maybe more like 3. 1)How long does it take to get to Summit Point and is there any cost just to watch? 2) Is there a "best" way to get there from the DC area? and 3) Anyone interested in a size 44 Icon Neo Daytona Jacket that I'm trying to sell to help finance a step up to racing leathers for this summer or next depending on a few things. I've owned it for approx. 9 months since last October and it's treated me very well just ask Long John he's seen it and me in it over the winter. I'm looking for $250 obo. That's about $100 less than MSRP from Icon and $50 off the cheapest I could find online. It's in New condition and it's a great jacket. That's it for now. Later, Ian '04 R6 Stock, mostly...soon to change __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat May 14 07:53:06 2005 Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 05:52:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Driving Directions To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Since we are talking Grand Canyons... I highly recommend seeing the one in the south http://www.breakspark.com/ Great fu*king roads to ride down there as well. Glenn --- matthew patton wrote: > > --- Rob Sharp wrote: > > Actually the grand canyon of the east is > Letchworth State Park. > > Which is off I390. Just about 40 miles south of > Rochester. > > I stand corrected. I visited the Grand Canyon of PA. > http://www.visittiogapa.com/ > > Gotta do the Rochester one next time. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sat May 14 21:08:18 2005 From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:07:37 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] A day saved and other notables All kinds of consternation saved today: Used the "key hider" on the bike to retrieve the spare key to the cable lock. The downside could have been painful - the bike with locked up 'Stich/helmet were in the far reaches of Quiet Water Park in Annapolis and who knows what it would have taken to free the gear (and get out prior to this pm t'storms). Thanks, Lord, for the onboard spare. One never knows. It turns out the key has been found at the boat place (stripped loose?), saving more headache since my 'hood locksmith says he has no access to blanks for this foreign made lock. Other notables: Coming back to DC from Tysons the other night, had a close call with another bike. I was moving from left to right lanes on Rte 7 to enter I-66; other bike was merging onto 7 from the right (in a construction area). Night visibility problems for us both - fortunately we saw each other at the last minute (other biker a lister?). Continual benes of biking: Same night, L St. work closing forced a reroute to New Hampshire Ave. north off Washington Circle. Which also was blocked by a grunting flagman who could only motion to keep going around, meaning more circles for me. But looking down NH, my path seemed clear: I stayed there, asking why I couldn't just squeak through the block in question, though doubtful he understood. A couple of minutes later, a supervisor drove up, got out of the truck, and said "It's a motorcycle. Let him through!" and off I went, exuding superiority. Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 > I brake for restricted airspace. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun May 15 12:31:34 2005 Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 10:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Schmidt To: DCcycles Subject: [dc-cycles] NFS:Icon Neo Daytona Decided to keep it for a while longer maybe next summer so it's not for sale anymore. Ian __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 17 14:49:15 2005 Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:48:23 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Track Day! Notes from Summit Main 5/16 I rode out to Summit Point at about five in the morning. Dodged some deer, bug-eyed people in trucks and the odd rodent on the way out. Apart from the chills it was a nice ride. By the time I found Summit Point I was happy to be off the bike. I saw tents, trailers and a variety of serious looking people in warm up suits moving about with focus and determination. Reality sunk in. Oh Gee! I am really unprepared. If I crash I have no way of getting home. Enter Dave Saunders, a kindly Pennsylvanian, who took me under his wing. Off came my mirrors, on went the tape, and I pulled the plug from left side (full beam) only headlight. Zip-tied the fairing and I passed tech inspection. I tried to listen intently through the rider's briefing. When a control rider said the following my adrenaline dialled up a notch..." I always sat this and it never works. No one in the beginner class will crash right?" Headed out to Summit Point and after lining up on the right..started heading down the straight. I was focused on the SV-650 in front of me which was the wrong thing to do. I felt completely out of control. Like I was a passenger on a roller coaster. I made it through the carousel and realized I needed to look at the track. I took a deep breath and kept going. Second lap and a red flag cautioned me about a custom pipe that littered the race line to Turn 3. Off into the pit we went. Second session and I started to focus on the track and my lines. I realized that there was a crapload of data to process very quickly and also that I could make this entire day without crashing If I kept focused. I started to relax and enjoy myself. I started to follow the correct lines and get positioned for the turns. Our entire group got pulled off at least five times throughout the day for various red flag run-offs. So much to learn: body position, finding the line, throttle control, braking and setting up for the corner. It was awesome. For anyone considering a track day I have a list of musts: - a trailer - a canopy - extra gas - socket wrenches - duct tape - water - zip ties - a good state of mind. I resolved to work on my cornering and could instantly see progress. I forgot about barrelling down the long straight which was not wise. Bigger bikes would come ripping past me and then slow way, way down for Turn 1. Was frustrating but I learned to accept it. It was an awesome and demanding experience and I enjoyed every second of it. I have beome disconnected from my ability to write lately but I will try to describe a lap. On the straight, throttle wide open. Up-shift to second and look toward Turn 1 and the brake point. A little worried about coming in too hot so I squeeze on the brakes and downshift at the first cone. Get to the far left and slide my butt to the right and stick my knee out. Look through the turn. There is a concrete patch in the middle right of Turn 1 that coincides with the race line. Stay ON this patch. I, of course, did one lap on the edge which was less than stable. Breathe, Focus. Edge in to the right and roll on the throttle. Follow the race line and cut to the right and then to the left. Go right and ease off the throttle for turn 2. not sure what I can get away with here. Roll onto the throttle and set up for turn three and four. These are more like bends and not demanding. It is time to set up for the turns five, six and seven. Go far right and slow down. The riders in front took this really easy. Leanway left and roll on the throttle. Stay on the throttle and shift position to get ready to lean right..lean right..on the throttle and lean way right to cut across the track. Get set up for a left turn. You can hammer it here as long as you go far left, brake and set up for Turn 9. Crank on the throttle and set up for Turn 10. A very fast right turn that is a lot of fun. I think this was the turn I took the fastest consistently but not the best line. Then you are back on the long straightaway. Unless you nail it here, confident litre bike riders will pass you. Rocket down the straight and then get ready to brake. I made three major mistakes throughout the day. At the first lap and turn I almost ran wide because I had picked a shitty line and was target fixated on the edge of the track. On Turn 5, I leaned over, thought I was going to fast and squeezed the brakes again sending me towards the edge. The second session, I took the Carousel on a bad line and veered all over the track trying to get set up. Other than that, I progressed steadily through the day from the very back of the beginner class to the middle of the faster first lane by the afternoon. Did not get much feedback from the control riders. I followed a few on some of my laps and they were definitely faster. I felt comfortable taking their line and moving my body when they did. I did not get a knee down but I scraped my toes at least four times. Not sure that I had a control rider behind me at all and would have liked a little more attention :). I loved the day and am looking forward to my next one. The sides of my tires look like they have been chewed up by a pitbull and my fairing is a little scuffed. Brain surgeon I am not and so I did some minor damage to the mount points of my mirrors. I also disconnected my wrong light but managed to avoid any damage and I did not crash. There were at least 12 or so run-offs that day, but when you factor in three groups of thirty each running 7 sessions of 5 to 9 or so laps..this was not that bad. Cheers From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 17 15:16:11 2005 From: "Shigeru Honda" To: "Julian Halton" , "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Track Day! Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:15:16 -0400 Welcome to the club of addiction! No more cops and cages to worry about. Glad to know you had a safe & fun day! mark your calendar. Here's a list of ALL the track days in the country; http://www.roadracingworld.com/calendar/glance/ There're also track days hosted by bike dealers at Summit Main; Loudon Motor Sports; 6/30 Thu 8/8 Mon 10/10 Mon Coleman Powersports; 8/15 Mon See you at the track! --------------------- Shigeru Honda 99 750 SS (Track #881) 00 Moto Guzzi V11 Sport 02 MZ Skorpion Tour (Commuter) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Halton" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Track Day! > > > > Notes from Summit Main 5/16 > > I rode out to Summit Point at about five in the morning. Dodged some > deer, bug-eyed people in trucks and the odd rodent on the way out. > Apart from the chills it was a nice ride. By the time I found Summit > Point I was happy to be off the bike. > > I saw tents, trailers and a variety of serious looking people in warm up > suits moving about with focus and determination. Reality sunk in. Oh > Gee! I am really unprepared. If I crash I have no way of getting home. > Enter Dave Saunders, a kindly Pennsylvanian, who took me under his wing. > Off came my mirrors, on went the tape, and I pulled the plug from left > side (full beam) only headlight. Zip-tied the fairing and I passed tech > inspection. > > I tried to listen intently through the rider's briefing. When a control > rider said the following my adrenaline dialled up a notch..." I always > sat this and it never works. No one in the beginner class will crash > right?" > > Headed out to Summit Point and after lining up on the right..started > heading down the straight. I was focused on the SV-650 in front of me > which was the wrong thing to do. I felt completely out of control. > Like I was a passenger on a roller coaster. I made it through the > carousel and realized I needed to look at the track. I took a deep > breath and kept going. Second lap and a red flag cautioned me about a > custom pipe that littered the race line to Turn 3. Off into the pit we > went. > > Second session and I started to focus on the track and my lines. I > realized that there was a crapload of data to process very quickly and > also that I could make this entire day without crashing If I kept > focused. I started to relax and enjoy myself. I started to follow the > correct lines and get positioned for the turns. Our entire group got > pulled off at least five times throughout the day for various red flag > run-offs. So much to learn: body position, finding the line, throttle > control, braking and setting up for the corner. It was awesome. > > For anyone considering a track day I have a list of musts: > - a trailer > - a canopy > - extra gas > - socket wrenches > - duct tape > - water > - zip ties > - a good state of mind. > > > I resolved to work on my cornering and could instantly see progress. I > forgot about barrelling down the long straight which was not wise. > Bigger bikes would come ripping past me and then slow way, way down for > Turn 1. Was frustrating but I learned to accept it. > > It was an awesome and demanding experience and I enjoyed every second of > it. I have beome disconnected from my ability to write lately but I will > try to describe a lap. > > On the straight, throttle wide open. Up-shift to second and look toward > Turn 1 and the brake point. A little worried about coming in too hot so > I squeeze on the brakes and downshift at the first cone. Get to the far > left and slide my butt to the right and stick my knee out. Look through > the turn. There is a concrete patch in the middle right of Turn 1 that > coincides with the race line. Stay ON this patch. I, of course, did > one lap on the edge which was less than stable. Breathe, Focus. Edge in > to the right and roll on the throttle. Follow the race line and cut to > the right and then to the left. Go right and ease off the throttle for > turn 2. not sure what I can get away with here. Roll onto the throttle > and set up for turn three and four. These are more like bends and not > demanding. It is time to set up for the turns five, six and seven. Go > far right and slow down. The riders in front took this really easy. > Leanway left and roll on the throttle. Stay on the throttle and shift > position to get ready to lean right..lean right..on the throttle and > lean way right to cut across the track. Get set up for a left turn. > You can hammer it here as long as you go far left, brake and set up for > Turn 9. Crank on the throttle and set up for Turn 10. A very fast > right turn that is a lot of fun. I think this was the turn I took the > fastest consistently but not the best line. Then you are back on the > long straightaway. Unless you nail it here, confident litre bike > riders will pass you. Rocket down the straight and then get ready to > brake. I made three major mistakes throughout the day. At the first > lap and turn I almost ran wide because I had picked a shitty line and > was target fixated on the edge of the track. On Turn 5, I leaned over, > thought I was going to fast and squeezed the brakes again sending me > towards the edge. The second session, I took the Carousel on a bad line > and veered all over the track trying to get set up. > > Other than that, I progressed steadily through the day from the very > back of the beginner class to the middle of the faster first lane by the > afternoon. Did not get much feedback from the control riders. I > followed a few on some of my laps and they were definitely faster. I > felt comfortable taking their line and moving my body when they did. I > did not get a knee down but I scraped my toes at least four times. Not > sure that I had a control rider behind me at all and would have liked a > little more attention :). I loved the day and am looking forward to my > next one. The sides of my tires look like they have been chewed up by a > pitbull and my fairing is a little scuffed. Brain surgeon I am not and > so I did some minor damage to the mount points of my mirrors. I also > disconnected my wrong light but managed to avoid any damage and I did > not crash. There were at least 12 or so run-offs that day, but when you > factor in three groups of thirty each running 7 sessions of 5 to 9 or so > laps..this was not that bad. > > Cheers > > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 17 23:01:21 2005 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 00:07:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Subject: [dc-cycles] bent frame straightening Hi...I've got a cb750 nighthawk that I think has a slightly bent frame (hit and run while parked). Anyone have a recommendation for local straightening? Not-so-local? Thanks. --garcia "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 11:50:55 2005 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:49:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "James O'Connor" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle Shops wanting help? I'm posting for a woman I work with. She's top notch and her better half seems to be as well. They're currently evaluating ways for him to remain in the US, with her. If anyone has any suggestions, please share. Thanks. [[ "In the next few weeks, our plan is to try to find an employer willing to sponsor him for an H-2B seasonal work visa for next year. He's owned his own motorcycle dealership/repair shop in the UK for 12 years. Building, fixing, and maintaining motorcycles (and riding especially fast ones!) is one of his passions, and for which he's well qualified. So, we would like to approach some motorcycle shops in the area (a) to find out if they have a need for temporary seasonal bike mechanics (probably, "yes"), (b) do they have trouble finding qualified US citizens to fill these temporary, seasonal positions and, therefore, (c) would they be willing to consider sponsoring him for an H-2B visa for the 2006 season? Can you recommend any motorcycle shops within commuting distance from DC that have repair workshops that you suggest we contact in this regard (preferably no Harley-only shops!) Thanks for any suggestions." ]] - Jimmy '03 ZRX __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 11:54:11 2005 From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:52:46 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Motorcycle Shops wanting help? To: axledeep@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cycle Sport in Alexandria. Last time I was in there a week or so ago, they were short a couple mechanics. The ones they had moved on to other jobs over the winter. Scooter In a message dated 5/18/2005 12:50:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, axledeep@XXXXXX writes: I'm posting for a woman I work with. She's top notch and her better half seems to be as well. They're currently evaluating ways for him to remain in the US, with her. If anyone has any suggestions, please share. Thanks. [[ "In the next few weeks, our plan is to try to find an employer willing to sponsor him for an H-2B seasonal work visa for next year. He's owned his own motorcycle dealership/repair shop in the UK for 12 years. Building, fixing, and maintaining motorcycles (and riding especially fast ones!) is one of his passions, and for which he's well qualified. So, we would like to approach some motorcycle shops in the area (a) to find out if they have a need for temporary seasonal bike mechanics (probably, "yes"), (b) do they have trouble finding qualified US citizens to fill these temporary, seasonal positions and, therefore, (c) would they be willing to consider sponsoring him for an H-2B visa for the 2006 season? Can you recommend any motorcycle shops within commuting distance from DC that have repair workshops that you suggest we contact in this regard (preferably no Harley-only shops!) Thanks for any suggestions." ]] - Jimmy '03 ZRX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 14:15:26 2005 Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 13:46:40 -0400 From: Tom de To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Re: Summer In Tune Troutman wrote: > > While in TN I ventured close to Knoxville but unfortunately had no > time for The Hoot. I did get to ride back to Virginia with hundreds > of Goldwings on 81 though. If my post-op back doesn't improve soon - > I will be strongly considering a rolling couch. I really liked the > BMW K1200GT I rode in Chantilly last summer. I'll probably be test > riding a few sofas by fall. I hear nothing but Good Things about the > 'wing. Don't discount the 'Wing. I rode a friend of mine's '02 'Wing, only for 5 miles. But once the whale is rolling its very controllable, and the torque, (ah the torque) 100+lbs... its very nice. Tom de '98 VTR From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 14:16:18 2005 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Ian Schmidt To: DCcycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Tools Hey everyone, I know that this is a common topic from time to time but I'm starting to compile a set of tools for bike work and was curious for suggestions of reputable brands, places to buy, and what to buy. I already know Deep Socket set and a Torque Wrench but all other suggestions are a plus. TIA! Also wanted to say it was nice to meet Brian Roach out at Summit Point on Monday. I headed out there to see what the day was like and spent some time taking a few pictures as well. I'll let you know how they turn out. Ian '04 R6 Mostly stock...Hopefully changing soon Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 14:23:19 2005 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:18:46 -0400 From: Mike Troutman To: Tom de CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Re: Summer In Tune Hey Tom - this is weird. This message just kicked into my inbox, and it is dated 6-24-2003. It wasn't held on my side. Perhaps time travel. Tom de wrote: > Troutman wrote: > >> >> While in TN I ventured close to Knoxville but unfortunately had no >> time for The Hoot. I did get to ride back to Virginia with hundreds >> of Goldwings on 81 though. If my post-op back doesn't improve soon - >> I will be strongly considering a rolling couch. I really liked the >> BMW K1200GT I rode in Chantilly last summer. I'll probably be test >> riding a few sofas by fall. I hear nothing but Good Things about the >> 'wing. > > > Don't discount the 'Wing. I rode a friend of mine's '02 'Wing, only > for 5 miles. But once the whale is rolling its very controllable, and > the torque, (ah the torque) 100+lbs... its very nice. > > > Tom de '98 VTR > -- _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 Fax 703.392.4665 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 14:36:32 2005 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:35:18 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Re: Summer In Tune To: mike@XXXXXX, tdeboeser@XXXXXX You are entering a dimension somewhere between time and space. You are entering, the Twilight Zone. :-) Scooter -----Original Message----- From: Mike Troutman To: Tom de Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Re: Summer In Tune Hey Tom - this is weird. This message just kicked into my inbox, and it is dated 6-24-2003. It wasn't held on my side. Perhaps time travel.)B  )B  Tom de wrote:)B  )B  > Troutman wrote:)B  >)B  >>)B  >> While in TN I ventured close to Knoxville but unfortunately had no >> time for The Hoot. I did get to ride back to Virginia with hundreds >> of Goldwings on 81 though. If my post-op back doesn't improve soon - >> I will be strongly considering a rolling couch. I really liked the >> BMW K1200GT I rode in Chantilly last summer. I'll probably be test >> riding a few sofas by fall. I hear nothing but Good Things about the >> 'wing. >)B  >)B  > Don't discount the 'Wing. I rode a friend of mine's '02 'Wing, only > for 5 miles. But once the whale is rolling its very controllable, and > the torque, (ah the torque) 100+lbs... its very nice.)B  >)B  >)B  > Tom de '98 VTR)B  >)B  )B  -- )B  _____________________________________ Mike Troutman)B  )B  mike@XXXXXX  )B  http://www.troutman.org/  )B  Home 703.392.1066  )B  Cell 703.565.4801  )B  Fax 703.392.4665  )B  From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 14:46:08 2005 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:41:36 -0400 From: Mike Troutman To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Re: Summer In Tune (sorry) Didn't mean to CC that to the list. Sorry. Mike Troutman wrote: > Hey Tom - this is weird. This message just kicked into my inbox, and > it is dated 6-24-2003. It wasn't held on my side. Perhaps time travel. > > Tom de wrote: > >> Troutman wrote: >> >>> >>> While in TN I ventured close to Knoxville but unfortunately had no >>> time for The Hoot. I did get to ride back to Virginia with hundreds >>> of Goldwings on 81 though. If my post-op back doesn't improve soon >>> - I will be strongly considering a rolling couch. I really liked >>> the BMW K1200GT I rode in Chantilly last summer. I'll probably be >>> test riding a few sofas by fall. I hear nothing but Good Things >>> about the 'wing. >> >> >> >> Don't discount the 'Wing. I rode a friend of mine's '02 'Wing, only >> for 5 miles. But once the whale is rolling its very controllable, >> and the torque, (ah the torque) 100+lbs... its very nice. >> >> >> Tom de '98 VTR >> > -- _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org/ Home 703.392.1066 Cell 703.565.4801 Fax 703.392.4665 From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 15:31:20 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: Ian Schmidt , DCcycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tools Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:30:13 -0400 Chain breaker Chain press Chain rivet tool Pin spanner (if you have a bike that needs one) good set of allen wrenches centerstand if you don't have a bike with one. On Wed, 18 May 2005 12:15:17 -0700 (PDT), Ian Schmidt wrote > Hey everyone, > I know that this is a common topic from time to > time but I'm starting to compile a set of tools for > bike work and was curious for suggestions of reputable > brands, places to buy, and what to buy. I already > know Deep Socket set and a Torque Wrench but all other > suggestions are a plus. TIA! > Also wanted to say it was nice to meet Brian > Roach out at Summit Point on Monday. I headed out > there to see what the day was like and spent some time > taking a few pictures as well. I'll let you know how > they turn out. > > Ian > '04 R6 > Mostly stock...Hopefully changing soon > > > Yahoo! Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 17:28:50 2005 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:27:45 -0400 From: smthng else To: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Track Day! On 5/17/05, Julian Halton wrote: > Notes from Summit Main 5/16 > The sides of my tires look like they have been chewed up by a > pitbull and my fairing is a little scuffed. Brain surgeon I am not and > so I did some minor damage to the mount points of my mirrors. I also > disconnected my wrong light but managed to avoid any damage and I did > not crash. Sounds like you had a great day. Now you've got me jonesing for a track day even more. But... What did you do to your mirrors and how did you manage to scratch you fairing? Come on, you didn't seriously think you could put that out there and no one would catch it, did you? ;) --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 17:59:03 2005 Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:58:01 -0400 From: smthng else To: DCcycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tools On 5/18/05, Ian Schmidt wrote: > I know that this is a common topic from time to > time but I'm starting to compile a set of tools for > bike work and was curious for suggestions of reputable > brands, places to buy, and what to buy. I already > know Deep Socket set and a Torque Wrench but all other > suggestions are a plus. TIA! Air compressor at Home Depot - Snagged for $89 earlier this week... already used the snot out of it. Had I known you could get them this cheap (with accessories), I would have gotten one years ago. Also, even though they aren't quite up to Snap-On quality, Stanley makes pretty decent stuff and they have a nice eBay outlet where you can occaisionally get hard-to-find and/or real good deal... got a metric ratcheting wrench set (which I love and use much more than regular rachet and sockey) at a really nice price with everything from 7 to 19 mm. http://stores.ebay.com/Stanley-Authorized-Auctions As you can see, "cost" is one of my main concerns. :) --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 18:03:54 2005 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "'Ian Schmidt'" , "'DCcycles'" Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Tools Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:02:39 -0400 I've purchased so many sets of this and that, but a few years ago, I purchased this set of Craftsman tools. All nicely housed, and I use it 95% of the time. I still have the one-off tools for special purposes, but if you get this, you will be covered for most anything: http://content.sears.com/data/product_images/009/33354/00933354000-dlv.jpg http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&p id=00933354000&subcat=Mechanics+Tool+Sets I hope the links work. Gary I've stopped 28,622 spam and fraud messages. You can too! One month FREE spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/safetybarsig/?rc=zfy4hl -----Original Message----- From: Ian Schmidt [mailto:schmidtys311@XXXXXX] To: DCcycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Tools Hey everyone, I know that this is a common topic from time to time but I'm starting to compile a set of tools for bike work and was curious for suggestions of reputable brands, places to buy, and what to buy. I already know Deep Socket set and a Torque Wrench but all other suggestions are a plus. TIA! Also wanted to say it was nice to meet Brian Roach out at Summit Point on Monday. I headed out there to see what the day was like and spent some time taking a few pictures as well. I'll let you know how they turn out. Ian '04 R6 Mostly stock...Hopefully changing soon Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 18 18:11:14 2005 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "'Julian Halton'" , "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Track Day! Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:10:10 -0400 The only problem with Track Day is it makes street riding a little boring :-) You will learn more about handling a bike at one track day than a year on the street. You can concentrate on riding, and not the soccer mom talking on the cell phone. Welcome to the addiction. I'm planning on the 6/30 LMS track day. Where are you coming from? Gary I've stopped 28,622 spam and fraud messages. You can too! One month FREE spam and fraud protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/safetybarsig/?rc=zfy4hl -----Original Message----- From: Julian Halton [mailto:julian@XXXXXX] To: DC-Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Track Day! Notes from Summit Main 5/16 I rode out to Summit Point at about five in the morning. Dodged some deer, bug-eyed people in trucks and the odd rodent on the way out. Apart from the chills it was a nice ride. By the time I found Summit Point I was happy to be off the bike. I saw tents, trailers and a variety of serious looking people in warm up suits moving about with focus and determination. Reality sunk in. Oh Gee! I am really unprepared. If I crash I have no way of getting home. Enter Dave Saunders, a kindly Pennsylvanian, who took me under his wing. Off came my mirrors, on went the tape, and I pulled the plug from left side (full beam) only headlight. Zip-tied the fairing and I passed tech inspection. I tried to listen intently through the rider's briefing. When a control rider said the following my adrenaline dialled up a notch..." I always sat this and it never works. No one in the beginner class will crash right?" Headed out to Summit Point and after lining up on the right..started heading down the straight. I was focused on the SV-650 in front of me which was the wrong thing to do. I felt completely out of control. Like I was a passenger on a roller coaster. I made it through the carousel and realized I needed to look at the track. I took a deep breath and kept going. Second lap and a red flag cautioned me about a custom pipe that littered the race line to Turn 3. Off into the pit we went. Second session and I started to focus on the track and my lines. I realized that there was a crapload of data to process very quickly and also that I could make this entire day without crashing If I kept focused. I started to relax and enjoy myself. I started to follow the correct lines and get positioned for the turns. Our entire group got pulled off at least five times throughout the day for various red flag run-offs. So much to learn: body position, finding the line, throttle control, braking and setting up for the corner. It was awesome. For anyone considering a track day I have a list of musts: - a trailer - a canopy - extra gas - socket wrenches - duct tape - water - zip ties - a good state of mind. I resolved to work on my cornering and could instantly see progress. I forgot about barrelling down the long straight which was not wise. Bigger bikes would come ripping past me and then slow way, way down for Turn 1. Was frustrating but I learned to accept it. It was an awesome and demanding experience and I enjoyed every second of it. I have beome disconnected from my ability to write lately but I will try to describe a lap. On the straight, throttle wide open. Up-shift to second and look toward Turn 1 and the brake point. A little worried about coming in too hot so I squeeze on the brakes and downshift at the first cone. Get to the far left and slide my butt to the right and stick my knee out. Look through the turn. There is a concrete patch in the middle right of Turn 1 that coincides with the race line. Stay ON this patch. I, of course, did one lap on the edge which was less than stable. Breathe, Focus. Edge in to the right and roll on the throttle. Follow the race line and cut to the right and then to the left. Go right and ease off the throttle for turn 2. not sure what I can get away with here. Roll onto the throttle and set up for turn three and four. These are more like bends and not demanding. It is time to set up for the turns five, six and seven. Go far right and slow down. The riders in front took this really easy. Leanway left and roll on the throttle. Stay on the throttle and shift position to get ready to lean right..lean right..on the throttle and lean way right to cut across the track. Get set up for a left turn. You can hammer it here as long as you go far left, brake and set up for Turn 9. Crank on the throttle and set up for Turn 10. A very fast right turn that is a lot of fun. I think this was the turn I took the fastest consistently but not the best line. Then you are back on the long straightaway. Unless you nail it here, confident litre bike riders will pass you. Rocket down the straight and then get ready to brake. I made three major mistakes throughout the day. At the first lap and turn I almost ran wide because I had picked a shitty line and was target fixated on the edge of the track. On Turn 5, I leaned over, thought I was going to fast and squeezed the brakes again sending me towards the edge. The second session, I took the Carousel on a bad line and veered all over the track trying to get set up. Other than that, I progressed steadily through the day from the very back of the beginner class to the middle of the faster first lane by the afternoon. Did not get much feedback from the control riders. I followed a few on some of my laps and they were definitely faster. I felt comfortable taking their line and moving my body when they did. I did not get a knee down but I scraped my toes at least four times. Not sure that I had a control rider behind me at all and would have liked a little more attention :). I loved the day and am looking forward to my next one. The sides of my tires look like they have been chewed up by a pitbull and my fairing is a little scuffed. Brain surgeon I am not and so I did some minor damage to the mount points of my mirrors. I also disconnected my wrong light but managed to avoid any damage and I did not crash. There were at least 12 or so run-offs that day, but when you factor in three groups of thirty each running 7 sessions of 5 to 9 or so laps..this was not that bad. Cheers From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 19 06:49:54 2005 Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:48:40 -0400 From: "De Boeser, Tom" To: mike@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Re: Summer In Tune Ha, sorry. Good ol' Thunderbird mailer asked if I wanted to send messages in my draft folder... I hit enter by mistake. Tom de Mike Troutman wrote: > Hey Tom - this is weird. This message just kicked into my inbox, and > it is dated 6-24-2003. It wasn't held on my side. Perhaps time travel. > > Tom de wrote: > >> Troutman wrote: >> >>> >>> While in TN I ventured close to Knoxville but unfortunately had no >>> time for The Hoot. I did get to ride back to Virginia with hundreds >>> of Goldwings on 81 though. If my post-op back doesn't improve soon >>> - I will be strongly considering a rolling couch. I really liked >>> the BMW K1200GT I rode in Chantilly last summer. I'll probably be >>> test riding a few sofas by fall. I hear nothing but Good Things >>> about the 'wing. >> >> >> >> Don't discount the 'Wing. I rode a friend of mine's '02 'Wing, only >> for 5 miles. But once the whale is rolling its very controllable, >> and the torque, (ah the torque) 100+lbs... its very nice. >> >> >> Tom de '98 VTR >> > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 19 14:46:33 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: "De Boeser, Tom" , mike@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Re: Summer In Tune Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:45:12 -0400 I know for me the draft folder is where I put my mean evil, I need to get this email out of my system but not actually send it folder. Hope your not the same way :-D On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:48:40 -0400, De Boeser, Tom wrote > Ha, sorry. Good ol' Thunderbird mailer asked if I wanted to send > messages in my draft folder... I hit enter by mistake. > > Tom de > > Mike Troutman wrote: > > > Hey Tom - this is weird. This message just kicked into my inbox, and > > it is dated 6-24-2003. It wasn't held on my side. Perhaps time travel. > > > > Tom de wrote: > > > >> Troutman wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> While in TN I ventured close to Knoxville but unfortunately had no > >>> time for The Hoot. I did get to ride back to Virginia with hundreds > >>> of Goldwings on 81 though. If my post-op back doesn't improve soon > >>> - I will be strongly considering a rolling couch. I really liked > >>> the BMW K1200GT I rode in Chantilly last summer. I'll probably be > >>> test riding a few sofas by fall. I hear nothing but Good Things > >>> about the 'wing. > >> > >> > >> > >> Don't discount the 'Wing. I rode a friend of mine's '02 'Wing, only > >> for 5 miles. But once the whale is rolling its very controllable, > >> and the torque, (ah the torque) 100+lbs... its very nice. > >> > >> > >> Tom de '98 VTR > >> > > -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 20 12:20:17 2005 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:18:54 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Ian Schmidt Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tools Cc: DCcycles Get the metric allen keys (bits) that attatch to a ratchet.. try to get wrenches that are shaped like the bolt head, and not the multipoint wrenches.. they are more likely to strip bolts/nuts. (who can restate this better?) Get a dremmel tool too.. you will need and use it. Get a telescopic magnet to fetch those metal parts you dropped... hmm... flash light of course.. subscribe to a discussion board for people who own your type of bike to learn all the tricks on how to do things easily as far as repairing and upgrading your bike.. Get a test light... and or voltimeter... and keep spare wire on hand.. duct tape.. zip ties.. oh and a drill.. personally, i like having an angle grinder.. and a motorcycle jack... they're like $50 at harbor frieght tools now? and they have a laurel location.. can't think of anything else.. to recommend as basic stuff. On 5/18/05, Ian Schmidt wrote: > Hey everyone, > I know that this is a common topic from time to > time but I'm starting to compile a set of tools for > bike work and was curious for suggestions of reputable > brands, places to buy, and what to buy. I already > know Deep Socket set and a Torque Wrench but all other > suggestions are a plus. TIA! > Also wanted to say it was nice to meet Brian > Roach out at Summit Point on Monday. I headed out > there to see what the day was like and spent some time > taking a few pictures as well. I'll let you know how > they turn out. > > > Ian > '04 R6 > Mostly stock...Hopefully changing soon > > > > Yahoo! Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 20 12:46:24 2005 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:45:12 -0400 From: Robert To: DCcycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tools I bought a set of t-handle long metric allen wrenches, and find that I use them all the time. Much easier to "spin" out a bolt, and not so liable to strip a bolt as a socket wrench. Get a quality brand, though, cheap tools are more trouble than they're worth. Robert Verde On 5/20/05, Danny Motorcycle wrote: > Get the metric allen keys (bits) that attatch to a ratchet.. > try to get wrenches that are shaped like the bolt head, > and not the multipoint wrenches.. they are more likely to > strip bolts/nuts. (who can restate this better?) > > Get a dremmel tool too.. you will need and use it. > Get a telescopic magnet to fetch those metal parts > you dropped... hmm... flash light of course.. > > subscribe to a discussion board for people who own your > type of bike to learn all the tricks on how to do things easily > as far as repairing and upgrading your bike.. > > Get a test light... and or voltimeter... and keep spare wire > on hand.. duct tape.. zip ties.. oh and a drill.. > > personally, i like having an angle grinder.. > > and a motorcycle jack... they're like $50 at > harbor frieght tools now? and they have a laurel location.. > > can't think of anything else.. to recommend as basic stuff. > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 20 13:29:24 2005 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:27:37 -0400 From: skip CC: DCcycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tools Robert wrote: > > I bought a set of t-handle long metric allen wrenches, and find that I > use them all the time. Much easier to "spin" out a bolt, and not so > liable to strip a bolt as a socket wrench. > > Get a quality brand, though, cheap tools are more trouble than they're worth. > > Robert Verde Sometimes, snap-on really -is- worth the money. wrenches and sockets are the most notable. craftsman will do in a pinch, though. :~) --skip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 20 14:31:11 2005 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:29:57 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] Early ride to 211 If we have dry roads, I will be heading up to 211 tomorrow. If anyone wants in call me at 202.285.7121 Cheers From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 20 18:35:06 2005 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 19:33:48 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: Julian Halton Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Early ride to 211 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Greetings from Tupelo, Mississippi - and Elvis says hi, too. Riding through Indiana, Ilinois, Nebraska, Missouri, Mississippi, et. al. Never saw so many straight, flat roads in my life. Wouldn't be surprised if my brand new Tourances are uncureably flat-spotted. by the time I get home. Natchez Trace Parkway is somewhat less flat and straight. Can't wait for Deal's Gap, Cherohala Skyway and the BRP coming up in a couple of days so I get to use at least SOME sidewall tread. Deal's Gap - 319 curves in 11 miles Every place else (so far) 11 curves in 319 miles. -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 20 18:58:52 2005 Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 19:57:34 -0400 From: Danny Motorcycle To: Robert Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tools Cc: DCcycles Do you use the T handle allen keys on things like footpeg brackets? (and other bigger allen bolts) I find the socket-allen key bits good for the bigger allen bolts. I'm pretty careful about making sure it's seated properly (fully), and not to put too much force into tightening or loosening, so I rarely have a problem. I do recommend having both the T allen keys and the allen bits. The T handles for the smaller bolts like fairings and gas caps and things. - Danny On 5/20/05, Robert wrote: > I bought a set of t-handle long metric allen wrenches, and find that I > use them all the time. Much easier to "spin" out a bolt, and not so > liable to strip a bolt as a socket wrench. > > Get a quality brand, though, cheap tools are more trouble than they're worth. > > Robert Verde > > On 5/20/05, Danny Motorcycle wrote: > > Get the metric allen keys (bits) that attatch to a ratchet.. > > try to get wrenches that are shaped like the bolt head, > > and not the multipoint wrenches.. they are more likely to > > strip bolts/nuts. (who can restate this better?) > > > > Get a dremmel tool too.. you will need and use it. > > Get a telescopic magnet to fetch those metal parts > > you dropped... hmm... flash light of course.. > > > > subscribe to a discussion board for people who own your > > type of bike to learn all the tricks on how to do things easily > > as far as repairing and upgrading your bike.. > > > > Get a test light... and or voltimeter... and keep spare wire > > on hand.. duct tape.. zip ties.. oh and a drill.. > > > > personally, i like having an angle grinder.. > > > > and a motorcycle jack... they're like $50 at > > harbor frieght tools now? and they have a laurel location.. > > > > can't think of anything else.. to recommend as basic stuff. > > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 20 23:54:55 2005 Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 00:51:46 -0400 To: Danny Motorcycle From: "Mike B." Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tools Cc: DCcycles At 07:57 PM 5/20/05 -0400, Danny Motorcycle wrote: >I find the socket-allen key bits good for the bigger allen bolts. I'm >pretty careful about making sure it's seated properly (fully), and not to put >too much force into tightening or loosening, so I rarely have a problem. They are also really useful when you need to torque to spec. -- -- Mike B. '04 FLSTCI (H-D Softail Heritage Classic with EFI for the non-Harley folks) Learning from your mistakes is good. Learning from someone else's mistakes is better. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun May 22 20:35:02 2005 Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:33:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Early ride to 211 To: Michael Jordan Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX mike: a group of us should be in the asheville/deals gap area memorial weekend. when will you be there? -- tg --- Michael Jordan wrote: > Greetings from Tupelo, Mississippi - and Elvis says hi, > too. > > Riding through Indiana, Ilinois, Nebraska, Missouri, > Mississippi, et. al. > > Never saw so many straight, flat roads in my life. > Wouldn't be > surprised if my brand new Tourances are uncureably > flat-spotted. by > the time I get home. > > Natchez Trace Parkway is somewhat less flat and straight. > Can't wait > for Deal's Gap, Cherohala Skyway and the BRP coming up in > a couple of > days so I get to use at least SOME sidewall tread. > > Deal's Gap - 319 curves in 11 miles > Every place else (so far) 11 curves in 319 miles. > > -- > Michael J. > '86 SRX-6 > '93 GSX1100G > '03 DL1000 > AMA > IBA #3901 > NRA > etc. > > Tom Gimer - 301 675-3980 (cell) - http://www.murphygimer.com - http://www.mgtitlellc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 23 08:24:54 2005 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:23:11 -0400 From: J D To: dc Cycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Tickets to thunder run 2005 (free) A co-worker gave me a pair of tickets to the Thunder run 2005 biks shoe, this Saturday in Centerville. I've got plans to be away on Saturday, so who ever picks them up (I've had too many people ask for free stuff and then never show) has 'em I would prefer someone to pick them up at my office, I work in Arlington (Ballston). However I'm willing to drop them off on my way to/from the office that is convent to my commuting times/routes. I commute along the I66 area to West of Manassas. -john From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Mon May 23 11:37:27 2005 Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:35:50 -0400 From: Michael Jordan To: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Early ride to 211 Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > a group of us should be in the asheville/deals gap area > memorial weekend. when will you be there? Right now. I'm sitting in the "Crossroads of Time" restaurant awaiting lunch as I type this (they gots free WiFi!! (bring our own computer)) Got here yesterday and have been running the roads. Will be making my final pass over the Gap after lunch and heading for the BRP and home. Probably get back into the DC area Wednesdayish. Going to try and hook up with a friend and take a look at Jay and Lisa Goddard's upcoming acquisition. If you can get the time, try and make down to Birmingham to the Barber Museum - it boggles the mind. I have a few pics up on my Smugmug site - www.fratellibrother.com - if you want a taste - they're under "Travel" Cheers and have a great ride. -- Michael J. '86 SRX-6 '93 GSX1100G '03 DL1000 AMA IBA #3901 NRA etc. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 24 08:49:09 2005 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:48:02 -0400 From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org \(E-mail\)" Subject: [dc-cycles] Interesting picture I'm not sure if this was posted here before or not, but it looks like we have more than one John Deere bike out there: http://langly.smugmug.com/photos/20658277-O.jpg Cedric Bernescut 2000 CBR600F4 Annandale, VA From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 24 10:43:05 2005 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:41:19 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Cc: "Julian Halton" Subject: [dc-cycles] Items for sale!!! I have moved and am getting rid of some stuff. I still have available: SHOEI RF-800 Helmet (great condition) Cortech Saddle bags and rear bag add on (immaculate used for one trip) Yamaha 2002 Red\White R6 Plastics - Front Upper (small cracks) - left side ( small cracks) - tail section (three scratches) - front wheel (small dent) I have a bevy of other stuff: books, sunglasses, clothes If any of this is interesting, I will accept any reasonable offers and will send pics upon request. Thanks all. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 24 10:43:26 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:41:28 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Tools To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 5/20/2005 1:19:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, motorpsychol@XXXXXX writes: > try to get wrenches that are shaped like the bolt head, > and not the multipoint wrenches.. they are more likely to > strip bolts/nuts. (who can restate this better?) > 6 point not 12 point. (12 point are a little better in tight spaces.) John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 24 11:46:22 2005 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:44:26 -0400 From: scooterfzr@XXXXXX X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Non-Moto/OT - The mis-adventures of Scooter Yes Harry, I know it's not moto related but, it is DC related and, since we seem to be a little slow lately, I thought you all might enjoy reading about my latest mis-adventures. lol www.livejournal.com/users/scooterfzr/ I've never done a journal before but, this warranted one. If only for me to keep from repeating my tale over and over again. As my saga is not yet over, I will be keeping this journal updated as new twists and turns arise. Enjoy. :-) Scooter From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 24 11:48:15 2005 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 09:46:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Carl Custer To: DCCycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Deals Gap Record Broken Michael Jordan reported: "Right now. I'm sitting in the "Crossroads of Time" restaurant awaiting lunch as I type this. Got here yesterday and have been running the roads." [Carl]: Whoa dude, did you see the record breaker? See below posted on SabMag Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 21:58:56 -0400 From: Larry Zoia <> Subject: BBS/Sabmag listmember shatters record at the Dragon Tapoco, North Carolina Sunday, May 23, 2005 Motorcyclist Larry Zoia (a/k/a Larry in Michigan) shattered the record yesterday on an eleven-mile stretch of US Highway 129 in North Carolina known as the Tail of the Dragon in a display of skill and patience that had motorcyclists and sports car drivers shaking their heads and talking to themselves while law enforcement officers checked the calibration on their radar devices. Mr. Zoia turned in the longest nonstop time in history for negotiating the 318 turns, riding at speeds that would elicit middle-finger erections, horn honking and jeers in a supermarket parking lot. "I've never seen anything like it," said one observer. "I didn't think a bike could go that slow and still remain upright." Another observer stated, "It might have been an optical occlusion, but the sun, moving from east to west in the sky, seemed to pass him during the run." The rider directly behind Zoia said, "Sixty minutes into the run, I knew I was watching history in the making as he entered the third turn, bolt upright, as leaning at that speed would result in a certain crash." A local law enforcement officer commented, "He didn't register on my radar at all, so I walked along beside him for a while, just to make sure it wasn't a hologram or some other cheap Yankee trick." At the end of the historic run, another observer commented, "He was so slow, I was looking for a slimey trail behind him." The light went on simultaneously for all present. There was a new sheriff in town..... and he was called the Snail of the Dragon. Larry in Michigan __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 24 16:26:30 2005 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 17:24:31 -0400 From: "John M. Stafford" To: DC-MD-PA-VA Scooters Mailing List , Central VA Scooters Mailing List , Incriminators Mailing List , dc-cycles Mailing List Subject: [dc-cycles] Need a delivery from D.C. to Richmond, Asheville, or Knoxville? Do you need to have a scooter or motorcycle delivered a delivery to/from D.C. to Richmond VA, Asheville NC, Knoxville TN, Cleveland OH, or any point in between? I will be leaving D.C. on Memorial Day and return after AmeriVespa in Cleveland the following weekend. I will happily pick-up/deliver anywhere along the route. Please write me directly at ScooterTransport AT comcast DOT net or call me at 7O3-346-B729 to discuss rates and schedules. Enjoy, John M. Stafford From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Tue May 24 17:30:11 2005 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:28:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Interesting picture To: Cedric Bernescut , "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org \(E-mail\)" That one is pretty. . . I've got a couple of extra Ninja 250s, and my son is has a John Deere lawn tractor in his garage. It belongs to his wife's brother. Now all we need are a couple of cases of beer and an oxy-acetylene torch. Leon. --- Cedric Bernescut wrote: > I'm not sure if this was posted here before or not, > but it looks like we have more than one John Deere > bike out there: > http://langly.smugmug.com/photos/20658277-O.jpg > > Cedric Bernescut > 2000 CBR600F4 > Annandale, VA > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 06:25:00 2005 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 04:22:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Meatheads do OK in PA http://www.kyw1060.com/news_story_detail.cfm?newsitemid=46424 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 11:20:12 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Meatheads do OK in PA Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:17:59 -0400 http://www.kyw1060.com/news_archives_detail.cfm?newsitemid=46424 works better. On Wed, 25 May 2005 04:22:59 -0700 (PDT), Glenn Dysart wrote > http://www.kyw1060.com/news_story_detail.cfm?newsitemid=46424 -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 12:32:02 2005 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:30:08 -0400 From: Dave Yates To: DCCycles Subject: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today http://www.dcexaminer.com/articles/2005/05/25//opinion/threads /39threads25.txt "From: Robert F. Dorr, Oakton Soon, it will be Memorial Day. On May 30, ceremonies will honor Americans who fell in our battles. The most important commemoration will take place at Arlington Memorial Cemetery, just across the river from Washington. Unfortunately, there will be an estimated 500,000 motorcycles and almost twice as many bikers visiting the nation's capital on Memorial Day weekend for an event called Rolling Thunder XVIII. The bikers say they are riding to support remembrance of prisoners of war and Americans still missing in action. Others say they have mixed motives. I have a message for the bikers: Stay home. That's right. Stop descending on my city every year. If you must come here, leave your loud, smelly motorcycles and your insolent biker attire at home. I know I'm going to catch flak for this, but I simply don't want those Harleys desecrating my neighborhood. I'm not against bikers. I am, however, opposed to Rolling Thunder. Supporters say they want to call attention to U.S. prisoners of war and missing in action. But many agree with me that this event is intrusive and inappropriate." You can submit responses here: http://www.dcexaminer.com/threads/ Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 12:32:21 2005 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:30:24 -0400 From: "Julian Halton" To: Subject: [dc-cycles] That age old tools topic Need to start my tool set. Need a hammer and needle nosed pliers...recommendations on brands? Can you built a toolset one at a time or is the way to go just buy the box from the get go? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 12:38:23 2005 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:36:31 -0400 From: Robert To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] That age old tools topic Vaughn for hammers (or Estwing, if you do a lot of nail-pulling), and Klein for pliers. IMHO, building a toolset piecemeal offers the advantage of ecnomy, but having a whole set means you'll never find yourself short of one vital tool. Mostly, anyway... ;-) Robert On 5/25/05, Julian Halton wrote: > > > Need to start my tool set. > > Need a hammer and needle nosed pliers...recommendations on brands? > Can you built a toolset one at a time or is the way to go just buy the > box from the get go? > > > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 12:41:10 2005 From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] That age old tools topic Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:39:05 -0400 I've got a pretty good set of tools I just got mine a little at a time. I always keep a eagle eye on sears. They always have craftsman ( key words lifetime warranty) on sale. Art Silver NIH/NIGMS/ASB 45 Center Dr. Rm 3an24 Bethesda, MD 20892 301-594-1747 -----Original Message----- From: Julian Halton [mailto:julian@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] That age old tools topic Need to start my tool set. Need a hammer and needle nosed pliers...recommendations on brands? Can you built a toolset one at a time or is the way to go just buy the box from the get go? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 13:30:17 2005 From: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" To: DCCycles Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:28:14 -0400 Don't folks have anything better to do then to complain about something that unless this guy live along the parade route or in the Pentagon parking lot, doesn't effects him very little. Maybe he's just mad a group of Harley's laughed at him and his Vespa. My advise for this A-hole is put your energy somewhere worth complaining about. Art Silver -----Original Message----- From: Dave Yates [mailto:Dave@XXXXXX] To: DCCycles Subject: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today http://www.dcexaminer.com/articles/2005/05/25//opinion/threads /39threads25.txt "From: Robert F. Dorr, Oakton Soon, it will be Memorial Day. On May 30, ceremonies will honor Americans who fell in our battles. The most important commemoration will take place at Arlington Memorial Cemetery, just across the river from Washington. Unfortunately, there will be an estimated 500,000 motorcycles and almost twice as many bikers visiting the nation's capital on Memorial Day weekend for an event called Rolling Thunder XVIII. The bikers say they are riding to support remembrance of prisoners of war and Americans still missing in action. Others say they have mixed motives. I have a message for the bikers: Stay home. That's right. Stop descending on my city every year. If you must come here, leave your loud, smelly motorcycles and your insolent biker attire at home. I know I'm going to catch flak for this, but I simply don't want those Harleys desecrating my neighborhood. I'm not against bikers. I am, however, opposed to Rolling Thunder. Supporters say they want to call attention to U.S. prisoners of war and missing in action. But many agree with me that this event is intrusive and inappropriate." You can submit responses here: http://www.dcexaminer.com/threads/ Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 14:10:36 2005 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:12:09 -0400 To: "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" , DCCycles From: "Mike B." Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today Right on Arthur! He obviously knows nothing about the event anyway. Harleys make up the bulk of the bikes on that ride, but they make up the bulk of the bikes in the country, so that shouldn't be too surprising. There are lots of other bikes there, and all are welcome as far as I understand it. Last year (first time I rode in it) there was a Honda parked to my right in the Pentagon lot, a Suzuki ahead and to my left, and another in our group (GF of one of the HOG members). Not all bikes are even cruisers...I saw at least a few sportbikes with riders in full leathers and helmets. I wasn't particularly looking for models, but those were close enough that I noticed. There were also a number of home-made bikes and trikes present. If he doesn't like protests, perhaps he should move to a city that isn't a capital city...they go with the territory. -- Mike B. P.S. Got my bike back from being repaired last week...just in time for all this rain. Sigh. At 02:28 PM 5/25/05 -0400, Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS) wrote: >Don't folks have anything better to do then to complain about something that >unless this guy live along the parade route or in the Pentagon parking lot, >doesn't effects him very little. Maybe he's just mad a group of Harley's >laughed at him and his Vespa. My advise for this A-hole is put your energy >somewhere worth complaining about. > >Art Silver > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dave Yates [mailto:Dave@XXXXXX] >Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:30 PM >To: DCCycles >Subject: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today > >http://www.dcexaminer.com/articles/2005/05/25//opinion/threads >/39threads25.txt > >"From: Robert F. Dorr, Oakton > >Soon, it will be Memorial Day. > >On May 30, ceremonies will honor Americans who fell in our >battles. The most important commemoration will take place at >Arlington Memorial Cemetery, just across the river from >Washington. > >Unfortunately, there will be an estimated 500,000 motorcycles >and almost twice as many bikers visiting the nation's capital >on Memorial Day weekend for an event called Rolling Thunder >XVIII. The bikers say they are riding to support remembrance >of prisoners of war and Americans still missing in action. >Others say they have mixed motives. > >I have a message for the bikers: Stay home. > >That's right. Stop descending on my city every year. If you >must come here, leave your loud, smelly motorcycles and your >insolent biker attire at home. I know I'm going to catch flak >for this, but I simply don't want those Harleys desecrating >my neighborhood. > >I'm not against bikers. I am, however, opposed to Rolling >Thunder. Supporters say they want to call attention to U.S. >prisoners of war and missing in action. But many agree with >me that this event is intrusive and inappropriate." > >You can submit responses here: >http://www.dcexaminer.com/threads/ > > >Dave Yates > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 14:42:47 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: "Mike B." , "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" , DCCycles Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:40:36 -0400 google is your friend. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Robert+F.+Dorr%2C+Oakton&btnG=Google+Search Incase anyone is on the parade commision and would like to modify the route :) Rob On Wed, 25 May 2005 15:12:09 -0400, Mike B. wrote > Right on Arthur! > > He obviously knows nothing about the event anyway. Harleys make up the > bulk of the bikes on that ride, but they make up the bulk of the > bikes in the country, so that shouldn't be too surprising. There > are lots of other bikes there, and all are welcome as far as I > understand it. Last year > (first time I rode in it) there was a Honda parked to my right in > the Pentagon lot, a Suzuki ahead and to my left, and another in our > group (GF of one of the HOG members). Not all bikes are even > cruisers...I saw at least a few sportbikes with riders in full > leathers and helmets. I wasn't particularly looking for models, but > those were close enough that I noticed. There were also a number of > home-made bikes and trikes present. > > If he doesn't like protests, perhaps he should move to a city that > isn't a capital city...they go with the territory. > > -- Mike B. > > P.S. Got my bike back from being repaired last week...just in time > for all this rain. Sigh. > > At 02:28 PM 5/25/05 -0400, Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS) wrote: > >Don't folks have anything better to do then to complain about something that > >unless this guy live along the parade route or in the Pentagon parking lot, > >doesn't effects him very little. Maybe he's just mad a group of Harley's > >laughed at him and his Vespa. My advise for this A-hole is put your energy > >somewhere worth complaining about. > > > >Art Silver > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dave Yates [mailto:Dave@XXXXXX] > >Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:30 PM > >To: DCCycles > >Subject: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today > > > >http://www.dcexaminer.com/articles/2005/05/25//opinion/threads > >/39threads25.txt > > > >"From: Robert F. Dorr, Oakton > > > >Soon, it will be Memorial Day. > > > >On May 30, ceremonies will honor Americans who fell in our > >battles. The most important commemoration will take place at > >Arlington Memorial Cemetery, just across the river from > >Washington. > > > >Unfortunately, there will be an estimated 500,000 motorcycles > >and almost twice as many bikers visiting the nation's capital > >on Memorial Day weekend for an event called Rolling Thunder > >XVIII. The bikers say they are riding to support remembrance > >of prisoners of war and Americans still missing in action. > >Others say they have mixed motives. > > > >I have a message for the bikers: Stay home. > > > >That's right. Stop descending on my city every year. If you > >must come here, leave your loud, smelly motorcycles and your > >insolent biker attire at home. I know I'm going to catch flak > >for this, but I simply don't want those Harleys desecrating > >my neighborhood. > > > >I'm not against bikers. I am, however, opposed to Rolling > >Thunder. Supporters say they want to call attention to U.S. > >prisoners of war and missing in action. But many agree with > >me that this event is intrusive and inappropriate." > > > >You can submit responses here: > >http://www.dcexaminer.com/threads/ > > > > > >Dave Yates > > -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 15:53:17 2005 From: "Perry Coleman" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:51:17 -0400 I think the most interesting link was this one: http://www.bransonveterans.com/guest.asp?page=6 About halfway down the page is his name, address, phone number and e-mail. Perhaps someone on the organizing committee could contact him and discuss this matter. I'm sure something could be worked out to everyone's satisfaction. Well almost everyone - you can't please everyone... Perry >From: "Rob Sharp" >To: "Mike B." , "Silver, Arthur (NIH/NIGMS)" >, DCCycles >Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today >Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 15:40:36 -0400 > >google is your friend. > >http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Robert+F.+Dorr%2C+Oakton&btnG=Google+Search > >Incase anyone is on the parade commision and would like to modify the route >:) > >Rob > [snip] > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Dave Yates [mailto:Dave@XXXXXX] > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:30 PM > > >To: DCCycles > > >Subject: [dc-cycles] BDC in the Examiner today > > > > > >http://www.dcexaminer.com/articles/2005/05/25//opinion/threads > > >/39threads25.txt > > > > > >"From: Robert F. Dorr, Oakton > > > > > >Soon, it will be Memorial Day. > > > > > >On May 30, ceremonies will honor Americans who fell in our > > >battles. The most important commemoration will take place at > > >Arlington Memorial Cemetery, just across the river from > > >Washington. > > > > > >Unfortunately, there will be an estimated 500,000 motorcycles > > >and almost twice as many bikers visiting the nation's capital > > >on Memorial Day weekend for an event called Rolling Thunder > > >XVIII. The bikers say they are riding to support remembrance > > >of prisoners of war and Americans still missing in action. > > >Others say they have mixed motives. > > > > > >I have a message for the bikers: Stay home. > > > > > >That's right. Stop descending on my city every year. If you > > >must come here, leave your loud, smelly motorcycles and your > > >insolent biker attire at home. I know I'm going to catch flak > > >for this, but I simply don't want those Harleys desecrating > > >my neighborhood. > > > > > >I'm not against bikers. I am, however, opposed to Rolling > > >Thunder. Supporters say they want to call attention to U.S. > > >prisoners of war and missing in action. But many agree with > > >me that this event is intrusive and inappropriate." > > > > > >You can submit responses here: > > >http://www.dcexaminer.com/threads/ > > > > > > > > >Dave Yates > > > > > >-- >Rob Sharp >rob@XXXXXX > From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 17:06:32 2005 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 18:04:37 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: [dc-cycles] Local Trials Event - June 5th - Spectators Welcome Hi everyone, If anyone has any interest in watching a motorcycle trials event, the R&T Club is having a great day of riding and spectating in Ijamsville on the 5th of June. Here's the link to the flyer for more information and directions. http://www.randtclub.com/Events/2005%20-%20R%20&%20T%20TRIALS%20FLYER.pd f Hope to see you there From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed May 25 22:14:41 2005 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:12:39 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Meatheads do OK in PA To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I wish they'd tell us of those who died W/O a helmet how serious their injuries were. The latest Motorcyclist had a decent writeup on the "survivability scale" and that certain scores meant you were going to die anyway regardless of head trauma. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 00:09:18 2005 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 01:06:26 -0400 From: skip To: Julian Halton , DC Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] That age old tools topic if you're looking for a framing hammer, get an Estwing. they're expensive, but they really are great hammers. if it's for bike work, buy a dead blow ball peen hammer. very very useful. additionally, buy a dead blow mallet. as for pliers, I am --really-- picky about my pliers. I love chanellock pliers... I've had a number of them over the years, and they have always performed beyond my ability to misuse them :~) --skip Julian Halton wrote: > > > > Need to start my tool set. > > Need a hammer and needle nosed pliers...recommendations on brands? > Can you built a toolset one at a time or is the way to go just buy the > box from the get go? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 07:45:44 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:43:33 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] That age old tools topic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 5/26/2005 1:07:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, skip@XXXXXX writes: > I am --really-- picky about my pliers. I love chanellock > pliers... Damn skippy, oh, no pun intended, sorry. Do NOT skimp on channel lock (adjustable) type pliers. Cheap ones tend to jump out of the grooves when you are really bearing down and I can tell you that you WILL have at least one finger in between the handles of the pliers when it happens and that finger will be crushed. Can you say PAIN!!!!!! ?? I mean pain. I mean using every curse word in your vocabulary pain. I mean throwing pliers through a wall pain. PAIN! Buy good ones, avoid pain. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 07:52:16 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:50:09 EDT Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] That age old tools topic To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 5/25/2005 1:30:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, julian@XXXXXX writes: > Can you built a toolset one at a time or is the way to go just buy the > box from the get go? I just talked about this off list, guess I should have posted on list. Check into Craftsman tool sets. They have a lot of them (or did last time I looked) of various sizes and cost. They are _far_ cheaper then buying the tools separately and the tools you never expect to use will turn out to be lifesavers on occasion. I once had a toolbox full of accumulated tools stolen and ended up replacing them with a Craftsman set. While I am no big fan of Sears those tools have served me well. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC 1999, Honda ST1100X Pan European 1983, BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles 1976, Honda CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 07:57:50 2005 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:55:43 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Outa here for a while Hi all My wife and I will be leaving on a long awaited, 6 week long, motorcycle trip in less then a week so within a day or so I will be temporarily un-subbing. The trip will be to Alaska and I have been wanting to make it since well before I purchased my BMW R80RT in _1983._ I purchased that bike with the intention of using it to make the trip so you can see how long I have been waiting. Enjoy your rides as I intend to enjoy mine... John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 08:00:21 2005 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:18:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Wayne Edelen To: Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Outa here for a while On Thu, 26 May 2005 PenguinBiker@XXXXXX wrote: > My wife and I will be leaving on a long awaited, 6 week long, motorcycle trip > in less then a week so within a day or so I will be temporarily un-subbing. > The trip will be to Alaska and I have been wanting to make it since well > before I purchased my BMW R80RT in _1983._ I purchased that bike with the > intention of using it to make the trip so you can see how long I have been waiting. > Enjoy your rides as I intend to enjoy mine... Ride safe, John! I hope you and your wife have a great time! -- Wayne From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 08:12:37 2005 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:10:32 -0400 From: smthng else To: "PenguinBiker@XXXXXX" Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Outa here for a while Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > My wife and I will be leaving on a long awaited, 6 week long, motorcycle trip > in less then a week so within a day or so I will be temporarily un-subbing. > The trip will be to Alaska and I have been wanting to make it since well > before I purchased my BMW R80RT in _1983._ I purchased that bike with the > intention of using it to make the trip so you can see how long I have been waiting. > Enjoy your rides as I intend to enjoy mine... Schweet! Take some pictures, have a good time and great ride. We expect a full report when you get back. :) --smthng http://spaces.msn.com/members/smthng/ From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 11:07:52 2005 From: "Rob Sharp" To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Outa here for a while Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:05:34 -0400 On Thu, 26 May 2005 08:55:43 EDT, PenguinBiker wrote > Hi all > My wife and I will be leaving on a long awaited, 6 week long, > motorcycle trip in less then a week so within a day or so I will be > temporarily un-subbing. The trip will be to Alaska and I have been > wanting to make it since well before I purchased my BMW R80RT in > _1983._ I purchased that bike with the intention of using it to > make the trip so you can see how long I have been waiting. Enjoy > your rides as I intend to enjoy mine... > > John. > PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Thats awesome! I hope you have a good time and take lots of pictures. I have always wanted to go to alaska but it's hard to convince my othr half to go... -- Rob Sharp rob@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 18:49:43 2005 From: "Hugh Caldwell" To: Subject: RE: [dc-cycles] Outa here for a while Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 19:45:46 -0400 X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host=smtp.vzavenue.net Excellent, have a great time. Bring warm clothes. Hugh -----Original Message----- From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX [mailto:PenguinBiker@XXXXXX] To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] Outa here for a while Hi all My wife and I will be leaving on a long awaited, 6 week long, motorcycle trip in less then a week so within a day or so I will be temporarily un-subbing. The trip will be to Alaska and I have been wanting to make it since well before I purchased my BMW R80RT in _1983._ I purchased that bike with the intention of using it to make the trip so you can see how long I have been waiting. Enjoy your rides as I intend to enjoy mine... John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 20:08:07 2005 From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:05:56 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Re: Outa here for a while Looks like many local spirits, mine included, will be along for the ride. Have a great run. My father (R.I.P.) made a young man's working trip there in the 30's: He loved all but the flying critters. Bests for your bugspray and all else. Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Hi all My wife and I will be leaving . . .snip From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Thu May 26 20:19:01 2005 Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 21:17:08 -0400 From: Laura Roach To: DCcycles Subject: [dc-cycles] Summit Point Racing this weekend For anyone looking to take a great motorcycle ride this weekend, and get to watch some racing on top of it, just wanted to let you know that this is a CCS/FUSA weekend at summit point raceway. There is racing Saturday, Sunday and Monday. If anyone hasn't been to the FUSA races, those are held on Monday and they are always incredible! Very exciting to watch. If anyone heads up there during the weekend, look for the SpeedWerks trailer and stop by and say hello to Brian and I! --Laura Roach From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 27 07:39:33 2005 From: "W.S." To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:37:12 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Summer project: Wheelie School? For those gaps still in summer planning: A half pager with great quotes like "When I master the wheelie," [the doctor] said, I increase my mastery of fly-fishing and surgery." Wheelie Training: A School for Showoffs http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/27/automobiles/27wheelie.html? (from today's Times; may require registration). A couple of wheelie schools -- www.ononewheel.com, (national) and www.starboyz.com, (Ohio). Bill S. / DC (on digest) '99 VN750 > Front tire has too much mileage. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Fri May 27 10:01:36 2005 Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 11:00:07 -0400 From: Laura Roach To: "W.S." Cc: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: [dc-cycles] Summer project: Wheelie School? W.S. wrote: > >A couple of wheelie schools -- www.ononewheel.com, (national) and >www.starboyz.com, (Ohio). > > I just read an article about a lady that died at Keith Code's wheelie school (ononewheel.com). Very sad that this 46 year old lady was trying to learn in a controlled environment (which I applaud that rather than on the street!) and had an unfortunate mishap that lead to her death. Very sad! Laura From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Sun May 29 02:48:56 2005 From: "Stephen" To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 03:44:08 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] FS: Dunlop K505G 110/80-17 No defects, tread depth at center: 4/32 Removed from a Honda Hawk GT. Best offer. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jun 1 00:01:30 2005 From: "Stephen" To: "DC-Cycles" Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 23:59:02 -0400 Subject: [dc-cycles] Day of the comet Have I fallen off the list, or has everyone gone riding for the week? From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jun 1 01:08:13 2005 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 22:08:05 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] motorcyclist mag helmet review and Z1R Shark identity I just threw my '97 Shoei RF800 in the trash. Ditto my '99 HJC CL-11. For $89 I picked up a Z1R Shark which the article in question gushed about. Z1R wholesale copied the CL-11. The shape is the same, the pads are the same, the venting is the same, the shields are the same, the side plates are the same. ONly difference is the foam which is DOT-only and not SNELL rated. So now I can happily use my misc shields for the CL-11 on my brand new CL-11 clone. Cool! Better a $100 helmet every year than a $500 lid every 5 years. From dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Wed Jun 1 01:52:42 2005 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 22:52:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Reinhardt To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: [dc-cycles] RE: Day of the Comet I recently resubscribed to the list after a couple years out of the DC area. The list traffic is definitely way, way down as compared to the summer of 2000 when I first heard about DC-Cycles at a bike night at Greveys in Falls Church. Is everyone now just on forums, or devoted to track-only riding? Or gone from DC? Adam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com