From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 02:54:35 2002 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Aki Damme Cc: Tom Knapik , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC tags no longer have plate stickers Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 02:58:57 -0400 |>Confused? I am. ROTFL. Welcome to the list (if your'e new) Danny From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 02:59:47 2002 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Dale Horstman Cc: DC Cycles Subject: Re: chains suck! Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 03:04:10 -0400 OH come on... don't deprive her of that childhood accident where your pants-leg gets caught in the chain and sprocket, and you are pinned to the bike, you can 't pedal, you can't put your foot down, all you can do is go boom! Hmm kinda reminds me of when my chain popped and got caught between the swing arm and sprocket retaining bolts and dumped me with a technical high side. OW. and now i discovered an O ring that flipped outside of the link, around it.. so it's sitting midway on a link. Dammit! chains do suck. Danny On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:19:40 -0400, you wrote: |>I'm thinking about getting one of these for my |>daughter. Way cool! :) |> |>http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000053HIZ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg |> |>Horkster From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 06:44:49 2002 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 06:44:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: DC tags no longer have plate stickers I actually posted an intro a few days ago but for some reason it never went through. Basically I re-subscribed about two weeks ago after being off the list for about 2-3 years. When I last subscribed, I had three bikes, an '85 V65, '85 VF700C and an '87 500 Shadow. Since then, I've sold all three and bought a 2001 Dyna Wide Glide. A totally different type of bike and ride but I really enjoy it. When I last subscribed there seemed to be a lot of folks who had cruisers and got together for group rides. But it seems to me that the list has grown in the direction of sport bikes and it's subsequent rides. I have nothing against sport bikes (except that it kills my wrists and neck to ride in that position), but there's no way I'd take my Wide Glide out with sport bikes and not kill myself trying to keep up. Are there still a lot of folks here that have cruisers? Many Harley riders out there? -aki At 02:58 AM 5/1/2002 -0400, daniel_ex250@XXXXXX wrote: >|>Confused? I am. > >ROTFL. Welcome to the list (if your'e new) > > >Danny From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 06:55:52 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 05:55:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Fish Flowers To: DC-Cycles Subject: Article on cyclists X-Approved: yes "NHTSA: Two-Wheel Mayhem?: Why motorcycling is becoming expensive and dangerous". An unusual motorcycling article by a car-intensive online rag: http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=4861 Fish. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 07:17:49 2002 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:17:42 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Article on cyclists At 05:55 AM 5/1/2002 -0500, you wrote: >"NHTSA: Two-Wheel Mayhem?: Why motorcycling is becoming expensive and >dangerous". An unusual motorcycling article by a car-intensive online rag: > >http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=4861 > >Fish. interesting...but none of it "new" news. We all know the average age has been going up for quite some time. One thing that we also have to keep in mind is that although accident rates have also gone up, it's actually *less* in percentages to the growth of the sport. Something that a lot of insurance funded studies conveniently leave out. But I do agree that there are a lot of new riders buying their first bike that's, IMHO, way beyond their skill level to handle. I especially see this in the Harley realm. I watched a guy last summer who's *never ridden a motorcycle before* buy a full decked out Electra Glide Ultra Classic and promptly dump it in Patriots parking lot. Had less than one mile on the odometer and already a grands worth of damage to the bike...not to mention the damage to his ego, wallet and various patches of skin. Lastly, the terms the writer of that article used lends me to believe that he also rides bikes and reads the motorcycle newsgroups as well. cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 07:42:15 2002 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:55:17 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: DC tags no longer have plate stickers At 06:44 AM 5/1/02 -0400, you wrote: >When I last subscribed there seemed to be a lot of folks who had cruisers >and got together >for group rides. But it seems to me that the list has grown in the >direction of sport bikes and >it's subsequent rides. I have nothing against sport bikes (except that it >kills my wrists and >neck to ride in that position), but there's no way I'd take my Wide Glide >out with sport bikes >and not kill myself trying to keep up. > >Are there still a lot of folks here that have cruisers? Many Harley riders >out there? > >-aki Some of my regular riding buddies ride cruisers (including Harleys), Aki. Many of us with sportbikes enjoy the same type of riding that you cruiser-types like :-) When my cruiser buddies aren't around, then I can lean it over and twist the grip a little further back :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 07:44:55 2002 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:50:46 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Aki Damme CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC tags no longer have plate stickers Aki Damme wrote: > When I last subscribed there seemed to be a lot of folks who had cruisers > and got together > for group rides. But it seems to me that the list has grown in the > direction of sport bikes and > it's subsequent rides. I have nothing against sport bikes (except that it > kills my wrists and > neck to ride in that position), but there's no way I'd take my Wide Glide > out with sport bikes > and not kill myself trying to keep up. > > Are there still a lot of folks here that have cruisers? Many Harley riders > out there? Me be a Harley rider - `93 FLHS. But I have a rule - no group riding fer me. A few bikes - OK - but a pack of bikes - NO WAY! I don't do crowds. Nothing against sportbikes here, but my old arthritic tainted joints just won't assume the *position* comfortably anymore. Bill From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 07:49:21 2002 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:49:14 -0400 To: "William J. Huson" From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: DC tags no longer have plate stickers Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX At 07:50 AM 5/1/2002 -0400, William J. Huson wrote: >Me be a Harley rider - `93 FLHS. But I have a rule - no group riding fer me. >A few bikes - OK - but a pack of bikes - NO WAY! I don't do crowds. > >Nothing against sportbikes here, but my old arthritic tainted joints just >won't >assume the *position* comfortably anymore. > >Bill I know what you mean Bill. My definition of group rides are groups of no more than 4-5. The only time I allow myself to be a cog in a huge cluster *uck is during Rolling Thunder. Last year wasn't too bad..things didn't really fall apart until we got to Constitution Ave. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 07:55:17 2002 From: Jim Shoemaker Subject: Re: DC tags no longer have plate stickers To: Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 07:55:11 -0400 On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:10:54 -0400 Aki Damme wrote: > > although that would prevent someone from using it, it > still destroys your > sticker and you'll end up having to replace it. > True, but I would get some satisfaction from knowing that the scum-sucking bottom feeder would get no use from it either. --Jim, crime victim x 5 (1 vandalism, 3 theft, 1 armed robbery) From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 08:03:50 2002 From: "Kevin Bechtel" To: Subject: Stator problems ? Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:05:20 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C1F0E6.F01A8A20 Well, there i go again. A new battery and a new regulator didn't do anything. Actually the voltage was a little higher with the new battery, but only for very short. Today I had the worse idea: I thought there was = a connection inside the alternator I could check, but I was wrong: that connection was sealed. Worse than worse is than tithe manual does say = that the connection is sealed, so why did I open it? besides, I didn't have a = new gasket, so I had to put some silicon to get me home. I think I will replace the stator: anyone knows where I can buy a new = stator for cheap? thanks, pierfrancesco vfr 98 Not trying to be smart, but wouldn't it have been cheaper to have = someone put test equipment on it an determine the actual problem rather = than parts replacing? ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C1F0E6.F01A8A20
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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C1F0E6.F01A8A20-- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 08:10:28 2002 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 08:16:16 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Aki Damme CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC tags no longer have plate stickers Aki Damme wrote: > I know what you mean Bill. My definition of group rides are groups of no > more than 4-5. > The only time I allow myself to be a cog in a huge cluster *uck is during > Rolling Thunder. > Last year wasn't too bad..things didn't really fall apart until we got to > Constitution Ave. I've been to Rolling Thunder to look at all the bikes and babes (Yowzaa!), but there's no way in hell I'd do the ride. Bill - wimp From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 08:13:32 2002 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 08:19:23 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Kevin Bechtel CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Stator problems ? --------------68F903B9C04B45E7C0F2132F Kevin Bechtel wrote: > Well, there i go again. A new battery and a new regulator didn't do > anything. Actually the voltage was a little higher with the new > battery, > but only for very short. Today I had the worse idea: I thought there > was a > connection inside the alternator I could check, but I was wrong: that > connection was sealed. Worse than worse is than tithe manual does say > that > the connection is sealed, so why did I open it? besides, I didn't have > a new > gasket, so I had to put some silicon to get me home. > > I think I will replace the stator: anyone knows where I can buy a new > stator > for cheap? > thanks, > pierfrancesco vfr 98 Did you measure the voltage (AC) coming out of the alternator? A simple test. Bill --------------68F903B9C04B45E7C0F2132F  

Kevin Bechtel wrote:

Well, there i go again. A new battery and a new regulator didn't do
anything. Actually the voltage was a little higher with the new battery,
but only for very short. Today I had the worse idea: I thought there was a
connection inside the alternator I could check, but I was wrong: that
connection was sealed.  Worse than worse is than tithe manual does say that
the connection is sealed, so why did I open it? besides, I didn't have a new
gasket, so I had to put some silicon to get me home.

I think I will replace the stator: anyone knows where I can buy a new stator
for cheap?
thanks,
pierfrancesco vfr 98

Did you measure the voltage (AC) coming out of the alternator?  A simple test.

Bill --------------68F903B9C04B45E7C0F2132F-- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 08:42:06 2002 From: "Lantech (DCOP)" To: "'Aki Damme'" , "'Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: RE: Article on cyclists Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:39:25 -0400 >>I watched a guy last summer who's *never ridden a motorcycle before* buy a full decked out Electra Glide Ultra Classic and promptly dump it in Patriots parking lot. When I was in Las Vegas I saw a guy who had never ridden a motorcycle at all AND had never even driven a car in the US (he was from Belgium or somewhere) attempt to rent a Road King. It's actually a really funny story when I tell it in person (email does not convey my talent with accents) that starts with the guy, in line for rentals behind me, asking repeatedly "What is Road King? What is Road King?" The rental pick-up line was kind of long (ahead of us: 4 losers in a group, one who had left his license at the hotel, one who had left his credit card at the hotel, and two who wanted Fat Boys but didn't know what a Fat Boy was, so can we see the entire stock of motorcycles ever made by Harley Davidson, and by the way can we switch colors about 9 times because this one doesn't go with my shoes? Puh-leeze!) so I had plenty of time to point out a Road King to this guy. "What's this for?" he asks, pointing to the right handlebar. I explain that's for the front brake, you work the back brake with your right foot. So he promptly points to the other handlebar and asks the same question. I explain it's the clutch and he looks at me all blank, kind of like the look my dogs get when they try to watch TV. At this point I ask him if he's ever ridden a motorcycle, and he of course says "No but I took out the full insurance coverage. And do they have one in automatic?" I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry at this point; I mean, it is really funny in a sad sort of way but that Road King is a really nice bike and I sure would hate to see this idiot mangle it. I tell him that maybe the Road King is not the best choice for him for that day. I picked up my bike and took it for a test ride; when I got back to the dealership to OK it, the rental guy was shaking his head at What Is Road King Man, explaining that he can't have the bike because basically he has no clue. WIRKMan is not happy at this at all and starts to wave his Gold Card around like that entitles him to something. I didn't stick around for the entire discussion but when I returned the bike (and I sure had a ball running around in the desert and looking for UFO's at Area 51) I found out that this guy would not take no for an answer and after they refunded his rental fee he hung around the Harley dealership for about 2 hours, cussing out anyone else who came to rent a bike. Maybe they should have let him keep the bike. Might have "thinned the herd" a little! cheers, Patti the Lantech From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 08:52:10 2002 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 08:51:54 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: RE: Article on cyclists At 08:39 AM 5/1/2002 -0400, patti wrote: ye GADS! That beats my story of the guy who's never rode a bike and while I was picking up my Magna, I wanted him rocket across the parking lot on a brandy new V-Max and plow into a parked pickup truck. Totalled the bike and shot him on his back onto Va. Beach Blvd. He wasn't seriously hurt but it must of been an awful feeling knowing you'll be making payments for the next 4 or 5 years on a bike you no longer own! And to make matters worse, he hadn't insured it yet. 8-P From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 08:52:57 2002 Subject: Re: DC tags no longer have plate stickers To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX Cc: Aki Damme , dc-cycles@XXXXXX, Tom Knapik From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:53:40 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.9 |November 16, 2001) at 05/01/2002 08:53:53 AM He's not *new* ... he's reborn. Welcome back Aki. --chris daniel_ex250@flash mail.com To: Aki Damme 05/01/2002 02:58 cc: Tom Knapik , dc-cycles@XXXXXX AM Subject: Re: DC tags no longer have plate stickers |>Confused? I am. ROTFL. Welcome to the list (if your'e new) Danny ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 09:03:18 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:03:04 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: RE: Article on cyclists PTL reminisced - When I was in Las Vegas I saw a guy who had never ridden a motorcycle at all AND had never even driven a car in the US (he was from Belgium or somewhere) attempt to rent a Road King. It's actually a really funny story when I tell it in person (email does not convey my talent with accents) [Dave] I'm thinking this is a good candidate for a Bike night Story :-) that starts with the guy, in line for rentals behind me, asking repeatedly "What is Road King? What is Road King?" [Dave] Something most Europeans ought to be able to understand... Surely, they know about being loyal subjects & all ... Maybe from another region of the world ? I didn't stick around for the entire discussion but when I returned the bike (and I sure had a ball running around in the desert and looking for UFO's at Area 51) I found out that this guy would not take no for an answer and after they refunded his rental fee he hung around the Harley dealership for about 2 hours, cussing out anyone else who came to rent a bike. Maybe they should have let him keep the bike. Might have "thinned the herd" a little! [Dave] yeah. The Bike herd too... :-| cheers, Patti the Lantech -- Pop3Now Personal, Get quick remote access to your email accounts! Sign Up Now! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 09:45:16 2002 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: "Kevin Bechtel" Cc: Subject: Re: Stator problems ? Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 09:49:42 -0400 |> |> Not trying to be smart, but wouldn't it have been cheaper to have someone put test equipment on it an determine the actual problem rather than parts replacing? I think the thinking is, if you replace the most expensive last, you'd want to replace the other stuff anyway... and that there is nothing else in the charging system it could be... however that fails to include the fact tha something could be loose or disconnected. So you can't argue with testing the stator before you buy one. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 09:45:49 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 06:45:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Fasted route to Seneca Rocks To: DC Cycles Thanks everyone one for their input, especially Tom and Chris. One more question. It looks like I may be able to get out of DC around 2PM on Friday, so I can make this a 2-night trip. So, what is the fastest, most direct route to Seneca Rocks and how long would that take me? Thanks Mark ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 09:45:58 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 06:45:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Fasted route to Seneca Rocks To: DC Cycles Thanks everyone one for their input, especially Tom and Chris. One more question. It looks like I may be able to get out of DC around 2PM on Friday, so I can make this a 2-night trip. So, what is the fastest, most direct route to Seneca Rocks and how long would that take me? Thanks Mark ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 09:51:48 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 06:51:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Make that FASTEST (n/m) To: Mark Kitchell , DC Cycles ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 09:53:07 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 06:53:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Fasted route to Seneca Rocks To: Mark Kitchell , DC Cycles --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > Thanks everyone one for their input, especially Tom > and Chris. One more question. It looks like I may be > able to get out of DC around 2PM on Friday, so I can > make this a 2-night trip. So, what is the fastest, > most direct route to Seneca Rocks and how long would > that take me? Thanks 55 W runs all the way there. make a left at the stop sign in seneca rocks and the campground is 1 mile up on the right. i'll send you the long loop today at some point.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 10:10:39 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 07:10:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Fasted route to Seneca Rocks To: Mark Kitchell , DC Cycles My fastest route there was 66 to 81 South, second(?) exit onto 55 west into WV to Moorefield. Rt. 220 (220/55?) to Petersburg, Rt28 to Seneca Rocks. [I remember this route being marked as some form of Rt. 55 the whole way through from I-81, but Mapquest doesn't confirm that. Also note that from I-81 this route is only two lanes and goes over three significant ridgelines - pick your passing spots carefully to avoid sitting behind a tractor trailer or, God forbid, a chicken truck.] It took approximately 2.5 hours from Manassas, so estimate 3 hours from D.C., driving sanely about 10mph over the speed limit. NOTE!!! Be VERY VERY VERY respectful of the speed limits going through the towns in WV!!! One town (Moorefield as I recall) was notorious for speed traps and they would stop you for as little as 5mph over the limit. It seemed to be their main source of revenue. On the other hand, there was little to no enforcement on the stretches of road between the towns and locals and knowledgable visitors routinely went as fast as they felt like going here. Chris --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > Thanks everyone one for their input, especially Tom > and Chris. One more question. It looks like I may > be > able to get out of DC around 2PM on Friday, so I can > make this a 2-night trip. So, what is the fastest, > most direct route to Seneca Rocks and how long would > that take me? Thanks > > Mark > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 10:58:28 2002 From: "Sanath S" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Keith Code's Superbike school Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 10:57:22 -0400 Anyone here attend Code's superbike school? Is it as good as everyone seems to say it is? Better to take your own bike or ride one of their ZX-6's? Do you actually get to meet Code? Do the instructors really scream at you if you do stuff wrong, sort of like boot camp? So many questions... I am on the waiting list for the May 30th class at Virginia International Raceway. If I donM-^Rt get in there then my second choice is Laguna Seca in July. Anyone else plan on attending? Sanath _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 11:08:47 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 08:08:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Keith Code's Superbike school To: Sanath S , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Sanath S wrote: > Anyone here attend Code's superbike school? yes > Is it as good as everyone seems to say it is? i would say "no," unless you end up getting more personal instruction than seems to be the norm. you'll be stuck in level 1....and if you already have some talent, the instructors will pretty much let you run the track and focus on those needing more help. reading his book(s), then heading out to a track day would seem to be just as productive. you have to attend level 1 to get to the subsequent levels.... in other words, you'll be lining keith's pocket with cash before you get to ride the lean bike or slide bike. > Better to take your own bike or ride one of their ZX-6's? so much better to use your own bike. (especially in your case!) > Do you actually get to meet Code? yes > Do the instructors really scream at you if > you do stuff wrong, sort of like boot camp? no -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 11:27:22 2002 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:26:44 EDT Subject: Re: Article on cyclists To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 5/1/2002 8:44:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, lantech.cwd@XXXXXX writes: > Maybe they should have let him keep the bike. Might have "thinned the herd" > a little! Darwin. "Here, take this dirt bike out into the dessert and practice a while first." Give him a clapped out piece of shit dirt bike you do not want anymore and send him out. They will never find the body, and there will be no accident report to raise everyone's insurance. The "problem" would just disappear and never be seen again. John. PenguinBiker@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 11:53:45 2002 Subject: RE: Keith Code's Superbike school From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 11:53:37 -0400 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Sanath, > Anyone here attend Code's superbike school? Yes, 2 years ago at VIR. Was a member of the DC-Cycles "crash crew." > Is it as good as everyone seems to say it is? As TG said (I can't believe I'm agreeing with him again!), you can learn pretty much everything CSS teaches by reading Code's books. Twist of the Wrist 2 is probably the most useful book. Personally, I think there's value in taking the school. But how much you'll actually learn and how far you'll advance will depend on where you're starting from and how much you're willing to put into it. And if you're already a "better" rider, you might not get as much out of it or get as much individual attention. I had Coby Fair work with me a little and the feedback I got was helpful. But it's not like I had an instructor with me all day. > Better to take your own bike or ride one of their ZX-6's? If you're going so you can learn how to ride YOUR bike, then take your own. But, of course, you do run the risk of possibly binning it. If you're going to learn how to ride as taught by Keith Code, then paying more to use the school bikes is probably a better idea. Plus it's less hassle having to transport your m/c to/from. > I am on the waiting list for the May 30th class at Virginia International Raceway. If I donM-^Rt get in there then my second choice is Laguna Seca in July. VIR is a technically demanding track (ditto for Laguna Seca). If you're not comfortable with tight, decreasing radius turns, elevation changes, and a blind corkscrew, (a) it may not be the best track to learn on and (b) it may not be the best track to take your own m/c. Just to learn and focusing on what they teach, Pocono is probably a better track (although not as fun/challenging as VIR). Remember, CSS is a school which means a fairly controlled environment. It's not a track day where the object is to try and ride as fast as possible. The focus of CSS is learning technique not speed. I think it's worth going to, but YMMV. Chuck -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 12:38:29 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:38:16 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: Loud pipes, and conformity http://www.latimes.com/news/columnists/la-000029019apr24.column Born to Be Wild, at Full Decibel A man rumbled through my neighborhood, gunning his Harley, rattling windows and setting off car alarms. I'm a pretty sound napper, but pressure-waves from his unmuffled engine triggered old earthquake instincts. I leaped off the couch. This, I presume, was the intended reaction. My head cleared and I thought of two things. I thought of the children I sometimes see at the grocery store. At age 4 or 5, when you need attention and if you don't get it ... well, you start insisting on it, wailing at the top of your lungs or grabbing for a jar of pickles to drop on the linoleum. Second, I thought of Enron. ... more ... From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 12:57:39 2002 X-EM-APIVersion: 2, 0, 0, 7 From: "Kirk Roy" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Keith Code's Superbike school Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 12:57:32 -0400 cvkgpena@XXXXXX wrote: >But, of course, you do run the risk of possibly binning it. If you're going to >learn how to ride as taught by Keith Code, then paying more to use the school >bikes is probably a better idea. Plus it's less hassle having to transport >your m/c to/from. Transport your bike? The bike's for riding. I rode mine to mid-ohio, did the class, and rode it home. No biggie. Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 13:15:14 2002 Subject: RE: RE: Keith Code's Superbike school From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:15:13 -0400 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Kirk, Well, you are a better man than me! %^) Did you ride home right after your day at CSS? Or did you spend the night and then ride home? And how much time did you have to get back (i.e., were you in a rush or could just ride at your leisure)? If you had to get back "right away" after CSS, riding your scoot could be the last thing someone might want to do. Also depends on how much stuff you want to bring with you. Tent, cooler full of Gatorade, soda, and water, chairs, and other "niceties" (especially if it's blazing hot and there's no natural shade) all make the day go by a little easier. I was fortunate when I did CSS at VIR. Brian Roach was kind enough to transport by GSXR to/from in a huge enclosed trailer (I think he had 4 or 6 bikes total in the trailer). I drove down with my wife and dog in my Trooper. Brian provided a tent for the DCC crew (at least those of us that knew each other) and we had a great time ... even with each of us dumping a bike. Different strokes for different folks. I just know that if I take the Level Two class, I'll ride one of the CSS school bikes. For me, it's just easier. Chuck Original Message: ----------------- Transport your bike? The bike's for riding. I rode mine to mid-ohio, did the class, and rode it home. No biggie. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 13:15:29 2002 From: SKeener2@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:15:07 EDT Subject: Re: Keith Code's Superbike school To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --part1_176.795d2e3.2a017c9b_boundary In a message dated 5/1/02 1:01:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kirk@XXXXXX writes: > Transport your bike? The bike's for riding. I rode mine to mid-ohio, did the > class, and rode it home. No biggie. Unless you have an incident on the track and can't ride your bike home. If that happens...you get to walk. Bring it on a trailer....unless you are soooo good that you would never wreck on the track....ever. Keener --part1_176.795d2e3.2a017c9b_boundary In a message dated 5/1/02 1:01:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kirk@XXXXXX writes:

Transport your bike? The bike's for riding. I rode mine to mid-ohio, did the class, and rode it home. No biggie.


Unless you have an incident on the track and can't ride your bike home.  If that happens...you get to walk.  Bring it on a trailer....unless you are soooo good that you would never wreck on the track....ever.

Keener --part1_176.795d2e3.2a017c9b_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 13:19:18 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 10:19:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Keith Code's Superbike school To: Kirk Roy , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Kirk Roy wrote: > cvkgpena@XXXXXX wrote: > >But, of course, you do run the risk of possibly binning > it. If you're going to > >learn how to ride as taught by Keith Code, then paying > more to use the school > >bikes is probably a better idea. Plus it's less hassle > having to transport > >your m/c to/from. > > Transport your bike? The bike's for riding. I rode mine > to mid-ohio, did the class, and rode it home. No biggie. i was exhausted at the end of the day. i would NOT have enjoyed riding home from up near the finger lakes. btw, thanks again, dysart, for the trailering.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 14:25:21 2002 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Comp Acc going "Tango Uniform"?? Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 14:26:47 -0400 http://venus.13x.com/roadracingworld/index.html Competition Accessories parent company goes belly up. Paul in DC From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 16:03:15 2002 From: "Paul Wilson" To: , Subject: Re: Keith Code's Superbike school Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:04:00 -0400 I had a similar experience at CLASS, also at VIR. You have lectures with the "great man" and lesser mortals out on the track with you. Sometimes you will have an instructor behind you observing. It's hard to tell (no mirrors!). Unless you get pulled off into the pit lane for a specific reason--I didn't--you really need to ask for feedback. It won't be volunteered very often. There is some coaching that occurs while in motion. I did get a "follow me" signal from an instructor to help me with my lines. If possible, try to get an instructor to follow you for a lap and then give you comments. The squeaky wheel getting the grease seems to be a common pattern in all these schools. I will second Chuck's comments that VIR is a challenging course. That blind down hill right hand off-camber turn (14 I think) triggered my sphincter pucker reflexes every time. I found it valuable riding my own bike, getting to know its ground clearances, suspension characteristics, power band and above all how to trust your tires. Since the primary focus is on skills that will improve your everyday street riding, it makes good sense to me to pilot your street weapon of choice. YMMV. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F P.S. I often hear whining about the VFR's limitations, can't do this, can't do this, not flickable, too heavy, blah, blah, blah. After you've been passed like you're standing still by Reg Pridmore riding two-up on a VFR800, the old saying "it's not the bike, it's the rider" definitely applies. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sanath, > Anyone here attend Code's superbike school? Yes, 2 years ago at VIR. Was a member of the DC-Cycles "crash crew." > Better to take your own bike or ride one of their ZX-6's? If you're going so you can learn how to ride YOUR bike, then take your own. But, of course, you do run the risk of possibly binning it. If you're going to learn how to ride as taught by Keith Code, then paying more to use the school bikes is probably a better idea. Plus it's less hassle having to transport your m/c to/from. > I am on the waiting list for the May 30th class at Virginia International Raceway. If I don't get in there then my second choice is Laguna Seca in July. VIR is a technically demanding track (ditto for Laguna Seca). If you're not comfortable with tight, decreasing radius turns, elevation changes, and a blind corkscrew... From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 16:57:10 2002 Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:56:32 -0400 Subject: parts wanted--Kz/gpz stuff To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Hi...I'm looking for a pickup coil (electronic ignition) for a kz550. They come in pairs and I'm happy buying either the pair or just the one for # 2/3 cylinders (yellow and red wires). These are probably the same as other 4-cylinder Kz/Gpzs from the early 80s. "Cash money". Lower priority is a seat cover, tail piece and right side cover for a 1979 kz650. (Yes, I know. These items are common on ebay.) Thanks. --Garcia From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 18:01:15 2002 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 15:01:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David Subject: Biker Ride & Bash To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --0-1431507784-1020290473=:20070 Hey, gang! I don't mean to solicit the group but there's an interesting ride for a good cause coming up with DC 101 as a sponsor. I told the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society about DC Cycles, and they indicated that there are prizes (including cash) for clubs that sign up the most riders. So, maybe it could help raise money to add something to the DC Cycles site? I will be participating. I know the father of the boy who the ride is for personally, but I'll keep it short. Find more information at: http://www.leukemia-lymphoma.org/all_page?item_id=63481 The contact for this is Mary Angelo. angelom@XXXXXX David Lusk 1998 Honda Aero 1100 --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness --0-1431507784-1020290473=:20070

Hey, gang!  I don't mean to solicit the group but there's an interesting ride for a good cause coming up with DC 101 as a sponsor.  I told the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society about DC Cycles, and they indicated that there are prizes (including cash) for clubs that sign up the most riders.  So, maybe it could help raise money to add something to the DC Cycles site?  I will be participating.

I know the father of the boy who the ride is for personally, but I'll keep it short.  Find more information at: http://www.leukemia-lymphoma.org/all_page?item_id=63481

The contact for this is Mary Angelo. angelom@XXXXXX

David Lusk

1998 Honda Aero 1100


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Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness --0-1431507784-1020290473=:20070-- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 19:29:03 2002 From: "Pierre C" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, vfr@XXXXXX Subject: my charging system - update Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 00:28:56 +0100 I cleaned all connections and found out that some voltage was somehow absorbed from the battery tender cord attached to the battery. My bike puts out the correct amount of voltage now according to the electrexusa.com flow chart. Thank you all, pierfrancesco vfr 98 _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 1 19:41:47 2002 From: "Do Yin" To: Subject: for sale: 1998 CBR 600 F3 Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 19:42:47 -0400 thought I'd throw this out to see if there are any takers. 98 F3 black/burgundy/gold approx 17k miles 2nd owner, bought 2/00 w/ 1700 miles on odo small ding on lower right fairing (1st owner) small ding on lower left fairing (me) both dings barely noticeable all stock, except stainless brake lines runs great never crashed asking $4500 http://briefcase.yahoo.com/novasquid001 for pics cell # 703-338-9135 if you're interested or have questions From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 06:25:27 2002 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 06:38:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Biker Ride & Bash I'll be out of town for the Leukemia ride :-\ but my wife and I will be participating in the Ride Across MD for the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. Anyone else? Details at http://www.rideacrossmaryland.org/ My wife is bugging me to get a Corbin passenger seat and backrest for the ride :-) I've already ordered up a Chatterbox for driver-pass and bike-bike communications. -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 08:54:44 2002 From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'Kevin Bechtel'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Multi meter Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 08:54:20 -0400 Did you test the circuit before you launched into the project? If not, radio shack and even auto stores sell Multi meters. For $25 you can get one that automatically adjusts to the various mA levels. An onboard continuity test function costs a bit more. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 09:09:00 2002 From: "Bruhl, George LT" To: "'William J. Huson'" , "'Aki Damme'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Rolling Thunder Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:08:41 -0400 I would NEVER ride in a herd like that. Do you have any idea how hard that is on the engine of a large displacement, air cooled V2? Chugging around D.C. at about 2 mph. Some years its been quite hot out. Air cooled M/C's require Air flow! I like riding with 4 maybe 5 at the most. Usually I'm on my own maybe one other. I used to ride with a few HD mechanics back in the 70's, they would ride back wheel to front wheel. Sort of a formation, I didn't like that AT ALL. No room for error or avoidance or correction/recovery if needed. Daddy always told me... "when ridin' leave yourself lots of space and that goes for drivin' too..." Drivers and riders have forgotten that axiom and I believe many accidents are due to lack of space.... you have to create space if the other jerk on the road doesn't give you any. Either by speeding up or knocking back on the throttle. Another sure sign of inexperience is the fully clad newby.... stylin' in your blind spot (if you are in a truck or car). That's crazy! Drivers are oblivious + preoccupied enough for a rider to assume that they (the rider) is within a drivers purview. I notice "blind spot riders" all the time. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 09:19:00 2002 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:18:56 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" " Subject: Re: Multi meter And their $25 pocket-sized model just went on sale for $17 (auto-ranging, continuity beeper, measures AC & DC volts & resistance). Model 22-802 Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Bruhl, George LT" Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 08:54:20 -0400 >Did you test the circuit before you launched into the project? If not, >radio shack and even auto stores sell Multi meters. For $25 you can get one >that automatically adjusts to the various mA levels. An onboard continuity >test function costs a bit more. > > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 09:45:28 2002 Subject: Upcoming Bike Nights From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:45:24 -0400 To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" CC: "markkitchell@XXXXXX" , "lisagoddard@XXXXXX" All... Just to give everyone a heads up on Bike Nights. First one will be on Sunday, June 2nd at CarPool in Arlington, VA. 6pm to 10pm. They will block off parking for motorcycles in the parking lot. Second one will be on Tuesday, June 25th at Grevey's in Falls Church, VA. 6pm to 10pm. No reserved motorcycle parking, but we usually manage to take over a good portion of the shopping center parking lot. Third one will be on a Sunday in July with the exact date still TBD. Uncle Jed's in Bethesda, MD. Lisa Goddard is working out the details as we speak. Again, no reserved motorcycle parking but we usually take over the street parking right in front of the restaurant. I will get all the info up on the website http://www.geocities.com/bikenight ASAP. Please feel free to post this info to other motorcycle lists and to other motorcylists. Hope to see y'all there! Chuck -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 09:57:18 2002 From: "Jeannette Zell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Upcoming Bike Nights Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 09:56:08 -0400 Woohooo! Cast comes off May 30. Think the leg will be strong enough 3 days later to ride? ;-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 >From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" >Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" >CC: "markkitchell@XXXXXX" , >"lisagoddard@XXXXXX" >Subject: Upcoming Bike Nights >Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:45:24 -0400 > >All... > >Just to give everyone a heads up on Bike Nights. > >First one will be on Sunday, June 2nd at CarPool in Arlington, VA. 6pm to >10pm. They will block off parking for motorcycles in the parking lot. > >Second one will be on Tuesday, June 25th at Grevey's in Falls Church, VA. >6pm to 10pm. No reserved motorcycle parking, but we usually manage to take >over a good portion of the shopping center parking lot. > >Third one will be on a Sunday in July with the exact date still TBD. Uncle >Jed's in Bethesda, MD. Lisa Goddard is working out the details as we >speak. Again, no reserved motorcycle parking but we usually take over the >street parking right in front of the restaurant. > >I will get all the info up on the website >http://www.geocities.com/bikenight ASAP. Please feel free to post this >info to other motorcycle lists and to other motorcylists. Hope to see >y'all there! > >Chuck > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >mail2web - Check your email from the web at >http://mail2web.com/ . > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 10:40:07 2002 From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Two articles of moto interest Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:42:01 -0400 Harley-Davidson Cancels Festival Full story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20424-2002May2.html The Associated Press Thursday, May 2, 2002; 9:01 AM OLD BRIDGE, N.J. -- Harley-Davidson canceled a three-day motorcycle show planned for a speedway this summer, citing concerns raised by local officials about potential violence and excessive noise. More than 150,000 people were expected to attend the "Open Road Tour" show, planned for Aug. 16-18 at Raceway Park. However, Old Bridge officials said this week that they would ask the speedway's owners to withdraw their permit application or they would rescind it. .... Harley-Davidson had billed the festival as a family event, and township police said the show would most likely be peaceful. However, other Old Bridge officials disagreed, citing the shootout last weekend between the Hells Angels and Mongols motorcycle gangs that left three men dead in Laughlin, Nev. ====================== And for those feel the urge to "take one last ride" -- Full story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20230-2002May2.html Motorcycle Built to Carry Casket The Associated Press Thursday, May 2, 2002; 8:10 AM LANCASTER, Pa. -- At 46, Al Skinner says he hasn't given dying much thought. But when he goes, he wants to roar out to his gravesite on a chrome-plated Harley-Davidson. To that end, Skinner has custom-built a motorcycle sidecar strong enough and large enough to carry a casket. It is believed to be the country's only "motorcycle hearse" of its type. "Firefighters are carried to their burials on fire trucks," Skinner, of Wrightsville, said this week. "If you ride, why not go out on a bike?" Skinner, who insists the idea isn't as crazy as it sounds, doesn't plan to wait until he dies to put the motorcycle to use. For $300 - plus mileage of $1 per mile - he will make it available to others, promising "the ultimate ride for motorcycle enthusiasts or those in search of an extraordinary farewell." Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 10:42:22 2002 From: "Pierre C" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: inquiring volunteer opportunity terminal kids Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 15:41:12 +0100 Hi, I read from a mailing list of NY motorcyclists that they have a volunteer service going on: they basically go to a hospital somewhere in NY and give rides to terminal children. I wanted to enquire if anyone knows if the same could be done in DC, and I would like to offer my time, my bike and my wrist (twisting) for one of these children. Pierfrancesco Consalvo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 11:45:15 2002 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 11:44:47 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder At 09:08 AM 5/2/2002 -0400, Bruhl, George LT wrote: >I would NEVER ride in a herd like that. Do you have any idea how hard that >is on the engine of a large displacement, air cooled V2? Chugging around >D.C. at about 2 mph. Some years its been quite hot out. Air cooled M/C's >require Air flow! George, *all *engines require air flow to assist in cooling however I think your fears about overheated air cooled engines are ungrounded. The "2 mph speed" you refer to is for less than 2 blocks once you get onto Constitution Ave. Must less effect than normal stop and go traffic one experiences in metro traffic. If *any* engine can't handle that, then there's serious mechanical problems that exist beyond proper cooling. Additionally, last year in 90 degree heat, using Mobil 1 synthetic and an oil cooler, my engine temperature never went above 225F. Well below any temperature range considered damaging to the engine. I ridden my bike in 100 + weather in stop and go traffic and it never came anywhere near overheating. An air cooled engine is *designed* to handle higher degrees of heat than a water cooled engine. I've ridden in several Rolling Thunder events as well as charity events where there were 1,000 + bikes, and the percentages of overheated bikes are extremely low. Much lower than water cooled cars would be in a similar situation. >I like riding with 4 maybe 5 at the most. Usually I'm on my own maybe one >other. I used to ride with a few HD mechanics back in the 70's, they would >ride back wheel to front wheel. Sort of a formation, I didn't like that AT >ALL. No room for error or avoidance or correction/recovery if needed. I see your point, but being a mechanic doesn't make one any better of a *rider* than anyone else. > ..and that can happen with a large group or a small group of riders. The difference is that I only ride in *organized* events of large groups. Where behavior and formation are strictly enforced. *Any* size group of unorganized riders run the risk of dangerous behavior. Each situation needs to be assessed and the risks weighed. I have a group of friends that I regularly ride with. I know, just as they know, each others riding habits, limitations and skill level. I have no problem riding with 7 or 8 of them. However, a "herd" half that size of unknowns in an uncontrolled environment is a recipe for disaster. >Daddy always told me... "when ridin' leave yourself lots of space and that >goes for drivin' too..." Drivers and riders have forgotten that axiom and I >believe many accidents are due to lack of space.... you have to create >space if the other jerk on the road doesn't give you any. Either by >speeding up or knocking back on the throttle. Another sure sign of >inexperience is the fully clad newby.... stylin' in your blind spot (if you >are in a truck or car). That's crazy! Drivers are oblivious + preoccupied >enough for a rider to assume that they (the rider) is within a drivers >purview. I notice "blind spot riders" all the time. unfortunately, I see them as well. But that doesn't have anything to do with riding in Rolling Thunder, that has to do with lack of experience. Many of which never have, or do not plan to, attend a formalized training course. Additionally, IMHO, one is born with common sense. You can't buy it, wear it or borrow it from anyone else. In a controlled environment, the rules are established for them...either they follow it or they don't ride with the group. I like that. By all means, ride within your "comfort" level. One shouldn't force themselves into a situation that is beyond their own, personal level of comfort. THAT above all else, IMHO, is responsible for most mishaps. My comfort level riding is different than yours, as yours is with others. I've been riding for over 35 years and have owned over 20 bikes. And in that time, my comfort level has changed. What I felt comfortable doing in the past, I wouldn't even think of doing today and vice versa. cheers, -aki > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 11:49:40 2002 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 11:49:32 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Two articles of moto interest At 10:42 AM 5/2/2002 -0400, Paul Wilson wrote: >Harley-Davidson Cancels Festival > > >Full story: >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A20424-2002May2.html unfortunately, I think we're going to see this knee jerk reaction for the foreseeable future. The unfortunate events with the HA and the Mongols has set motorcycle events and the perception of motorcylists back 20 years. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 12:17:05 2002 Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Upcoming Bike Nights To: Jeannette Zell , dc-cycles@XXXXXX what the??? cast??? what happened??? --- Jeannette Zell wrote: > Woohooo! Cast comes off May 30. Think the leg will be > strong enough 3 days > later to ride? ;-) > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > >From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" > >Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX > >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" > >CC: "markkitchell@XXXXXX" , > > >"lisagoddard@XXXXXX" > >Subject: Upcoming Bike Nights > >Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:45:24 -0400 > > > >All... > > > >Just to give everyone a heads up on Bike Nights. > > > >First one will be on Sunday, June 2nd at CarPool in > Arlington, VA. 6pm to > >10pm. They will block off parking for motorcycles in > the parking lot. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 12:35:35 2002 From: "Jeannette Zell" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Upcoming Bike Nights Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:35:28 -0400 Oh yeah, I forgot to tell everyone who asked last week! Long story short, I was standing in the back yard with puppies galore and the 2 adult dogs while on the phone. The 2 adults started chasing each other, I yelled, "Slow down!" and felt a VERY hard hit on the back of my right leg around calf level. I thought, "Uh oh, that was BAD," and began to look down ever so slowly, not sure if I wanted to see what lay in wait below. Sure enough, my right foot was now pointed at a 90-degree angle inside my Doc Martens. Oh yay. I managed to right my foot on top of my other boot and feel to make sure there was no blood (I was afraid it was a compound fracture, but thankfully it wasn't). Some morphine and a very painful ambulance ride later and I found out that my ankle was dislocated and 3 of the bones in my leg broken. I must've been asked MILLIONS of times, "MY GOD, your dog must be BIG!" Um, no. They're not. "You must've fallen on it after they hit you!" Um, no, I remained standing until I thought I should lay down. I had surgery and now have 4 screws in my leg - fun fun! I just got my hard cast on Tuesday and have 4 weeks of that before I can attempt to walk on my calf that will for sure be about 1/2 of what it used to be... ;-) So much for those 5Ks I was hoping to do this summer! ;-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 >From: Tom Gimer >To: Jeannette Zell , dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: Upcoming Bike Nights >Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT) > >what the??? > >cast??? what happened??? > > > > >--- Jeannette Zell wrote: > > Woohooo! Cast comes off May 30. Think the leg will be > > strong enough 3 days > > later to ride? ;-) > > > > - Jeannette > > '86 VFR 700 F2 > > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > > > > > >From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" > > >Reply-To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX > > >To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" > > >CC: "markkitchell@XXXXXX" , > > > > >"lisagoddard@XXXXXX" > > >Subject: Upcoming Bike Nights > > >Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 09:45:24 -0400 > > > > > >All... > > > > > >Just to give everyone a heads up on Bike Nights. > > > > > >First one will be on Sunday, June 2nd at CarPool in > > Arlington, VA. 6pm to > > >10pm. They will block off parking for motorcycles in > > the parking lot. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness >http://health.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 12:59:41 2002 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:59:34 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: Upcoming Bike Nights At 12:35 PM 5/2/2002 -0400, Jeannette Zell wrote: >Oh yeah, I forgot to tell everyone who asked last week! ouch! We have two dogs ourselves...an Amstaff and a Dobie. They play *very* rough and if we're anywhere near them when they start "doggie wrassilin'", we'll end up on the floor with them. Hope you get well soon! Don't know if you'll be able to ride 3 days after getting the cast off. Only you will know that for sure. regards, -aki From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 13:46:57 2002 From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Biker Ride & Bash Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:44:37 -0400 Bad timing: Same weekend as Budd's Creek... --jon -----Original Message----- From: David Hey, gang! I don't mean to solicit the group but there's an interesting ride for a good cause coming up with DC 101 as a sponsor. I told the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society about DC Cycles, and they indicated that there are prizes (including cash) for clubs that sign up the most riders. So, maybe it could help raise money to add something to the DC Cycles site? I will be participating. I know the father of the boy who the ride is for personally, but I'll keep it short. Find more information at: http://www.leukemia-lymphoma.org/all_page?item_id=63481 The contact for this is Mary Angelo. angelom@XXXXXX David Lusk 1998 Honda Aero 1100 Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 13:49:27 2002 From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: Upcoming Bike Nights Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:47:07 -0400 (1) Yes. (2) Why do you need the cast off to ride? --jon > -----Jeannette Zell wrote: > Woohooo! Cast comes off May 30. Think the leg will be strong > enough 3 days > later to ride? ;-) From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 15:48:28 2002 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 15:49:01 -0400 From: Lisa Goddard Subject: Maryland MSF Classes To: dcccycles I just noticed that Montgomery College will be offering Maryland MSF Classes. I don't ever remember that they taught MSF. Looks like you must register in person in Gaithersburg. Since I am on digest give me shout off-list if you want more information. Lisa Goddard '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 17:33:04 2002 From: "Pierre C" To: nyc-moto@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: giving rides to terminally ill children Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:32:58 +0100 Someone posted a while ago about giving motorcycle rides to childrenn who are terminally ill in NY state. I am a resident of washington DC and would like to find out if the local institutions would be interested in something similar. I have posted messages on our local mailing lists but without any feedback. I would love to know what/how you have organized your activities up in NY state so that perhaps I and whoever wants could do the same down here in DC. Thanks, pierfrancesco consalvo _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 19:34:23 2002 Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 19:33:54 -0400 Subject: Re: v-2 cooling From: Bob McKeithen To: on 5/2/02 7:00 PM, The dc-cycles list administrator at dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX wrote: You wouldn't have that problem if your cylinders were arranged properly. Those on my Moto Guzzi are From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 19:49:57 2002 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 19:49:41 -0400 To: Bob McKeithen , From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: v-2 cooling At 07:33 PM 5/12/2002 -0400, Bob McKeithen wrote: >on 5/2/02 7:00 PM, The dc-cycles list administrator at >dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX wrote: >You wouldn't have that problem if your cylinders were arranged properly. >Those on my Moto Guzzi are *and* they make great engine guards! ;-) From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 20:34:53 2002 From: SBave@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 20:34:11 EDT Subject: Re: OT Computer question To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Thanks to all that helped with my question. It was the hard drive that crashed... :( I really appreciate all the help... Steve Broadstreet ZX-9 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 2 22:08:15 2002 From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Cc: Subject: Susan G. Komen ride Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 22:10:33 -0400 Hey, A few friends and I will be there. I better get started with some pledges, it's right around the corner (June 1-2 I believe). Sux I'll be the only one riding solo. Everyone else has a "date". That leaves me to ferry all the gear/clothes for the sportbike riders who can't haul their own gear. At least I feel I have a purpose. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Davidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project "We're all here 'cause we're not all there" From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 07:59:32 2002 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: "Pierre C" Cc: nyc-moto@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: giving rides to terminally ill children Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 08:04:22 -0400 Woah. Count me in. : | Danny From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 09:17:55 2002 Subject: RE: giving rides to terminally ill children From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:17:51 -0400 To: "piffiffi@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Pier, You're going to have to find somen organization -- probably a non-profit 501(c)3 that works with terminally ill children, e.g., Make A Wish, Starlight -- to sponsor/underwrite something like this. HUGE liability that requires very good insurance coverage. I know DC-Cycles probably couldn't do this and I don't know if there are any other local m/c groups that would have the requisite insurance coverage. I tend to think not. I would asbolutely NOT recommend that you or anyone else just volunteer on your own to do this (although it is a worthy and noble idea). All it takes is one crash for you to get sued up the wazoo. I'm sure Gimer and other bottom feeders on the list would concur. Chuck Original Message: ----------------- From: Pierre C piffiffi@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:32:58 +0100 To: nyc-moto@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: giving rides to terminally ill children Someone posted a while ago about giving motorcycle rides to childrenn who are terminally ill in NY state. I am a resident of washington DC and would like to find out if the local institutions would be interested in something similar. I have posted messages on our local mailing lists but without any feedback. I would love to know what/how you have organized your activities up in NY state so that perhaps I and whoever wants could do the same down here in DC. Thanks, pierfrancesco consalvo _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 09:26:13 2002 Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 06:26:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: RE: giving rides to terminally ill children To: "piffiffi@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Pierre, I know the woman who is helping to organize the ride you are referring to up in NY. If you would like to find out more about how it got started, and if the group has any liability coverage like Chuck is talking about below, let me know and I can try to get her in touch with you. Louis --- "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" wrote: > Pier, > > You're going to have to find somen organization -- probably a non-profit > 501(c)3 that works with terminally ill children, e.g., Make A Wish, Starlight > -- to sponsor/underwrite something like this. HUGE liability that requires > very good insurance coverage. I know DC-Cycles probably couldn't do this and > I don't know if there are any other local m/c groups that would have the > requisite insurance coverage. I tend to think not. I would asbolutely NOT > recommend that you or anyone else just volunteer on your own to do this > (although it is a worthy and noble idea). All it takes is one crash for you > to get sued up the wazoo. I'm sure Gimer and other bottom feeders on the > list would concur. > > Chuck > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Pierre C piffiffi@XXXXXX > > Someone posted a while ago about giving motorcycle rides to childrenn who > are terminally ill in NY state. I am a resident of washington DC and would > like to find out if the local institutions would be interested in something > similar. I have posted messages on our local mailing lists but without any > feedback. I would love to know what/how you have organized your activities > up in NY state so that perhaps I and whoever wants could do the same down > here in DC. > Thanks, > pierfrancesco consalvo __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 09:32:42 2002 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: SPAM: Jacket for sale! Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:31:13 -0400 Okay BIG guys! This jacket is in excellent condition. No odors, I don't smoke. http://pub3.ezboard.com/ftlownersboardforsale.showMessage?topicID=1613.topic From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 09:42:46 2002 From: "Paul Wilson" To: , , Subject: Re: giving rides to terminally ill children Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:43:37 -0400 If you want to help kids, another way would be to participate in the Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation Ride for Kids events that are held around the country. I agree with Chuck's thoughts that you'd want to do this (offering rides) through a bona fide organization and not on your own. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F - 86 VF500F ----- Original Message ----- From: Pier, You're going to have to find somen organization -- probably a non-profit 501(c)3 that works with terminally ill children, e.g., Make A Wish, Starlight -- to sponsor/underwrite something like this. HUGE liability that requires very good insurance coverage. I know DC-Cycles probably couldn't do this and I don't know if there are any other local m/c groups that would have the requisite insurance coverage. I tend to think not. I would asbolutely NOT recommend that you or anyone else just volunteer on your own to do this (although it is a worthy and noble idea). All it takes is one crash for you to get sued up the wazoo. I'm sure Gimer and other bottom feeders on the list would concur. Chuck Original Message: ----------------- From: Pierre C piffiffi@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:32:58 +0100 To: nyc-moto@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: giving rides to terminally ill children Someone posted a while ago about giving motorcycle rides to childrenn who are terminally ill in NY state. I am a resident of washington DC and would like to find out if the local institutions would be interested in something similar. I have posted messages on our local mailing lists but without any feedback. I would love to know what/how you have organized your activities up in NY state so that perhaps I and whoever wants could do the same down here in DC. Thanks, pierfrancesco consalvo _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 10:16:34 2002 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 10:16:26 -0400 To: "Gary Foreman" , From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: SPAM: Jacket for sale! At 09:31 AM 5/3/2002 -0400, Gary Foreman wrote: >Okay BIG guys! > >This jacket is in excellent condition. No odors, I don't smoke. > >http://pub3.ezboard.com/ftlownersboardforsale.showMessage?topicID=1613.topic ah..the California II, I have one as well, albeit not that size. ;-) Yes $400 original price is about right and they still do sell it: http://bikes.starroute.com/jacket.htm scroll down about 4-5 jackets.. cheers, -aki From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 10:21:47 2002 Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 10:21:38 -0400 From: "Chris Norloff" To: "Pierre C" CC: Subject: Re: giving rides to terminally ill children I think that's an excellent idea. I have a sidecar rig that would be just right for that I think. best, Chris ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Pierre C" Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:32:58 +0100 >Someone posted a while ago about giving motorcycle rides to childrenn who >are terminally ill in NY state. I am a resident of washington DC and would >like to find out if the local institutions would be interested in something >similar. I have posted messages on our local mailing lists but without any >feedback. I would love to know what/how you have organized your activities >up in NY state so that perhaps I and whoever wants could do the same down >here in DC. >Thanks, >pierfrancesco consalvo > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 14:39:54 2002 Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:39:29 -0400 Subject: You are invited.... From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX ...to the Renter Removal party Laura Granato and I will be hosting on June 1st! To celebrate the removal of the funky renters from Laura's townhouse, (I'm her new roomie), we'll be having a barbecue in honor of the occasion, and we thought we'd invite our fellow listers to party with us! Details are forthcoming, but mark your calendars, we hope to see you all there! Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 15:28:05 2002 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: swing arm bearings? Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 15:33:00 -0400 I'm installing a chrome swing arm, but I don't have the dog bone bearings. Anyone know of a local place where I can take the swing arm and parts and get some bearings, so I can ride through the weekend? The first person to answer correctly (and i get my bearings) will be entittled to a cash prize redeemable for beer, food, or hell whatever the hell you want! :) Danny From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 15:44:40 2002 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 15:44:25 -0400 To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: swing arm bearings? depends on where you're at but Patriot HD probably does. As well as Fast Cycles in Chantilly. -aki At 03:33 PM 5/3/2002 -0400, daniel_ex250@XXXXXX wrote: > I'm installing a chrome swing arm, but I don't have the dog bone >bearings. Anyone know of a local place where I can take the swing arm >and parts and get some bearings, so I can ride through the weekend? > >The first person to answer correctly (and i get my bearings) will be >entittled to a cash prize redeemable for beer, food, or hell whatever >the hell you want! :) > >Danny From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 17:16:29 2002 Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 14:16:24 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: looking for T-connectors for fuel system To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I can find elbows and straight connectors but no T's. They are plastic, 3/8's in diameter and are used to join various sorts of rubber hoses. In my case I want to use them for fuel delivery to simplify the rat's nest. I've tried the obvious suspects (Pepboys, Trak, Springfield Hardware) without any luck. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 17:48:30 2002 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:48:17 -0400 To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Aki Damme Subject: Re: looking for T-connectors for fuel system have you tried calling a pet store, especially one that sells aquarium supplies? At 02:16 PM 5/3/2002 -0700, matthew patton wrote: >I can find elbows and straight connectors but no T's. They are plastic, >3/8's in diameter and are used to join various sorts of rubber hoses. >In my case I want to use them for fuel delivery to simplify the rat's >nest. I've tried the obvious suspects (Pepboys, Trak, Springfield >Hardware) without any luck. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness >http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 17:58:47 2002 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 18:04:38 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: matthew patton CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: looking for T-connectors for fuel system matthew patton wrote: > I can find elbows and straight connectors but no T's. They are plastic, > 3/8's in diameter and are used to join various sorts of rubber hoses. > In my case I want to use them for fuel delivery to simplify the rat's > nest. I've tried the obvious suspects (Pepboys, Trak, Springfield > Hardware) without any luck. > Springfield Hardware? If you mean Fischer's Hardware, okay, but if not, do visit Fischer's Hardware. It's in the strip mall across Backlick (the one way westbound part) from Mike's American Grill, which is close to Dauphines, and as a biker you should know where Dauphines titty bar is. *snicker* There's also a marine store in the same strip mall which may have a selection of plastic plumbing piecey-parts. Bill From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 19:25:46 2002 Subject: Mark Walker is Out of the Office From: Mwalker3@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 19:05:29 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/03/2002 07:09:07 PM I will be out of the office starting 05/03/2002 and will not return until 05/07/2002. I will reply to your message following my return. If the matter is urgent, please contact either Richard Mance (tel: (1)(202) 458-1525), or Judith Ramsay-Williams (tel: (1)(202) 458-5979), who will be able to assist you. Thank you. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 19:43:53 2002 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 19:57:03 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Wayne Edelen Subject: Re: Special bike for sale >I am posting this for a friend. > >ZX11c 1990 same owner 13 years only 2385 miles(not a typo!) This bike >has >been garage kept and never seen rain. Must see to really appreciate the >superb condition this machine is in. There are a couple of very minor >scratches on the left side where it slowly dropped on its side at zero >mph. >This SUPERBIKE is ready to ride anywhere you want to. A chance to own a > >large chunk of motorcycle history. 1990 Cycle mag with ZX11 roadtest and >the >factory shop manual is included. $5200 obo. Email me for pictures. >cbxturbo@XXXXXX John, Wash DC 202-966-0889 > >Thanks!! >Jay Hey Jay, thanks for posting this a while back. I forwarded it to a riding buddy who was making the jump from cruisers to sportbikes. My friend went down today and test drove the bike. Me on my 'Busa, my friend on the ZX-11 and John on his CBX (I love those things!) went for a ~30 minute ride. My friend and John closed the deal. Also, I think I met Lisa, she just didn't know who I was :-) -- Wayne - http://www.blueblackbusa.org/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 19:49:35 2002 Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 19:46:57 -0400 Subject: Re: looking for T-connectors for fuel system To: pattonme@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "garcia oliver" Science supply catalog or store was my first thought. Possibly boat or pet store. --garcia pattonme@XXXXXX writes: >I can find elbows and straight connectors but no T's. They are plastic, >3/8's in diameter and are used to join various sorts of rubber hoses. >In my case I want to use them for fuel delivery to simplify the rat's >nest. I've tried the obvious suspects (Pepboys, Trak, Springfield >Hardware) without any luck. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 3 21:05:54 2002 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: Ride this Saturday Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 21:06:58 -0400 There is going to be a SBN ride this Saturday at 8:30. 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From dc-cycles-request Sat May 4 15:19:26 2002 From: "Clifford Zigmond" To: Subject: looking for stock horn for CB750 Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 15:18:18 -0400 I bought a fairing/windshield kit for my '93 CB750. However, the custom horn on the bike is too big, not allowing for proper installation of the fairing. Any idea of the best place to get a stock horn? Is it a very common part, same on other Honda bikes? Cliff From dc-cycles-request Sat May 4 19:32:14 2002 Subject: Mark Walker is Out of the Office From: Mwalker3@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 19:32:07 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/04/2002 07:35:45 PM I will be out of the office starting 05/03/2002 and will not return until 05/07/2002. I will reply to your message following my return. If the matter is urgent, please contact either Richard Mance (tel: (1)(202) 458-1525), or Judith Ramsay-Williams (tel: (1)(202) 458-5979), who will be able to assist you. Thank you. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 4 19:41:15 2002 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 19:40:12 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A1x=B1=BB=A9=A6=B9=C8=A2=21=20=5BhJbv=A9=C9=D8=D6=A8z=B5=AD=BE=B3=A2=DC=B9?= To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > HOTELRO wrote: I don't know about the rest of you, but I just wanted to see the Subject header with an 'Re:' in front of it. :) Hork -- Mandatory Second Line (Chatty Moron Trademark) Dale Horstman - horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Sat May 4 22:23:08 2002 From: "Laura Granato" To: Subject: A HUGE thanks! Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 22:34:40 -0400 Just wanted to send a huge thanks out to Fish Flowers...what a cool dude! This guy from the list, whom I had never met, took an entire Saturday to come help me paint my townhouse. How cool is that? I have to say that some of the greatest and most helpful people I have ever met have come from this list. Two thumbs up to Fish!!!! Laura From dc-cycles-request Sun May 5 13:15:39 2002 Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 13:15:21 -0400 Subject: An in-depth article on red-light cameras From: Sean Jordan To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Good read. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/078ftoqz. asp Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing From dc-cycles-request Sun May 5 14:21:17 2002 Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:21:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Ride this Saturday To: Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > There is going to be a SBN ride this Saturday at 8:30. > Meet in the Multiplex > parking lot. its off of 66, route 28 and braddock rd. ricardo: fill in the blanks, please.... ___ crashes ___ tickets ___ 90mph wheelstands hope the ride went well.... -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Sun May 5 19:38:26 2002 From: "Do Yin" To: Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/05/02 Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 19:39:45 -0400 Unfortunately only 3 others showed up besides myself. Well, maybe that was a good thing since a pack of 4 is much easier to manage than a pack of 20. Once we entered Harrisonburg the rain started, but all in all a good time. -----Original Message----- Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 11:21:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Ride this Saturday To: Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > > There is going to be a SBN ride this Saturday at 8:30. > Meet in the Multiplex > parking lot. its off of 66, route 28 and braddock rd. ricardo: fill in the blanks, please.... __0_ crashes __0_ tickets __0_ 90mph wheelstands hope the ride went well.... -- tg From dc-cycles-request Sun May 5 20:02:00 2002 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 20:03:19 -0400 Anyone going to the bike night in barnes and noble, in rockville? Route 355 and Montrose rd. Ricardo From dc-cycles-request Sun May 5 22:32:07 2002 Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 19:32:02 -0700 (PDT) From: matthew patton Subject: Re: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX that's no bike night!! It's a chicken out. They should hold it in front of Chick Filet. Poseurs one and all. Who the heck goes to a book store to choke on overpriced coffee grounds and yack when the only natural state of 2-wheels is for them to be rotating? Or *at least* have a TV showing the pro's at their finest, and rubbing our noses in the undeniable truth that the audience can't ride worth &@*E. (thought we needed a flame to start off the week in style.) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 00:16:40 2002 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 00:16:35 -0400 Subject: Dr. Gridlock hears it from a Motorcyclist From: David Cross To: Dr. Gridlock asserted that the roads would be a lot safer if there were more moms in minivans on the road. One motorcyclist disagreed: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/metro/columns/drgridlock/A33373-2002May 4.html Dave From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 09:13:32 2002 From: "Paul Hutchins" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 09:12:23 -0400 It's not a bike night and has never been a bike night. We'd be real happy if all of you twits from PG county, DC, and VA would stay where you belong... :P >From: matthew patton >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble >Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 19:32:02 -0700 (PDT) > >that's no bike night!! It's a chicken out. They should hold it in front >of Chick Filet. Poseurs one and all. Who the heck goes to a book store >to choke on overpriced coffee grounds and yack when the only natural >state of 2-wheels is for them to be rotating? Or *at least* have a TV >showing the pro's at their finest, and rubbing our noses in the >undeniable truth that the audience can't ride worth &@*E. > >(thought we needed a flame to start off the week in style.) > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 09:13:39 2002 From: "Sanath S" To: pattonme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 09:12:29 -0400 Such hostility :-) ItM-^Rs just a little social event for the yuppie biker types. Nothing wrong with looking at pretty poseur bikes, there is bound to be a bunch of pretty girls too :-D Sanath >From: matthew patton >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble >Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 19:32:02 -0700 (PDT) > >that's no bike night!! It's a chicken out. They should hold it in front >of Chick Filet. Poseurs one and all. Who the heck goes to a book store >to choke on overpriced coffee grounds and yack when the only natural >state of 2-wheels is for them to be rotating? Or *at least* have a TV >showing the pro's at their finest, and rubbing our noses in the >undeniable truth that the audience can't ride worth &@*E. > >(thought we needed a flame to start off the week in style.) > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness >http://health.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 09:23:30 2002 From: RichH@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:23:40 -0400 Is this a DC Cycles thing, people from DC Cycles, friends, or another group doing this? -----Original Message----- From: Sanath S [mailto:kewlgt@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:12 AM To: pattonme@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble Such hostility :-) It's just a little social event for the yuppie biker types. Nothing wrong with looking at pretty poseur bikes, there is bound to be a bunch of pretty girls too :-D From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 09:36:45 2002 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 08:35:12 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: RE: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble This is just a regular thing as I know it, no affiliation with DC Cycles yada yada yada I think It's kind of fun to watch all the antics of the squids. There are some nice bikes to look at occasionally, among a sea of GXR's George Cole 01 FZ1 >>> 05/06/02 09:23AM >>> Is this a DC Cycles thing, people from DC Cycles, friends, or another group doing this? From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 09:39:14 2002 From: RichH@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:39:25 -0400 Is this every Thursday night? -----Original Message----- From: George Cole [mailto:George.Cole@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:35 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Rich Hall Subject: RE: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble This is just a regular thing as I know it, no affiliation with DC Cycles yada yada yada I think It's kind of fun to watch all the antics of the squids. There are some nice bikes to look at occasionally, among a sea of GXR's George Cole 01 FZ1 >>> 05/06/02 09:23AM >>> Is this a DC Cycles thing, people from DC Cycles, friends, or another group doing this? From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 09:56:58 2002 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 08:45:16 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: RE: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble --=_5E03B957.D9B98740 Yes.. We like to call it "the running of the squids" George=20 George M Cole Technology Consultant Boise Office Solutions 301-523-4161 FAX 1-888-240-3154 (please note new email address effective March 2002) George.Cole@XXXXXX >>> 05/06/02 09:39AM >>> Is this every Thursday night? --=_5E03B957.D9B98740 BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 X-GWTYPE:USER FN:George Cole TEL;WORK:410-579-5200 x4608 ORG:;B-Tech Sales TEL;PREF;FAX:800-537-0066 EMAIL;WORK;PREF;NGW:George.Cole@XXXXXX N:Cole;George TITLE:Sales Rep END:VCARD --=_5E03B957.D9B98740-- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 10:06:35 2002 From: "Paul Hutchins" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 10:06:29 -0400 It's been the regular "hang-out" for a few locals for about a year and a half. Over time, a bunch of morons (i.e., folks from PG county, DC, Northern VA) starting showing up on Thursday nights. Now it's pretty much a big pain in the ass. Montgomery's finest is on "high alert" every Thursday because of the riff raff that's been coming in. It's disappointing, because Thursday was our regular "stupid shit" night... Stay home! Go away! Leave us alone! YMMV, etc.,etc. :-P -snip- >From: RichH@XXXXXX >Is this every Thursday night? > > >This is just a regular thing as I know it, no affiliation with DC Cycles >yada yada yada > >I think It's kind of fun to watch all the antics of the squids. > >There are some nice bikes to look at occasionally, among a sea of GXR's > >George Cole >01 FZ1 > > >>> 05/06/02 09:23AM >>> >Is this a DC Cycles thing, people from DC Cycles, friends, or another group >doing this? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 10:30:18 2002 Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 10:29:58 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: RE: THursday night bike night at barnes and noble It's been the regular "hang-out" for a few locals for about a year and a half. Over time, a bunch of morons (i.e., folks from PG county, DC, Northern VA) starting showing up on Thursday nights. Now it's pretty much a big pain in the ass. Montgomery's finest [Dave] There's the problem ! Everyone knows there's NOTHING fine in Montgomery county ! ;-) is on "high alert" every Thursday because of the riff raff that's been coming in. It's disappointing [Dave] Of COURSE it's disappointing - it's in Montgomery County ! , because Thursday was our regular "stupid shit" night... Stay home! Go away! Leave us alone! YMMV, etc.,etc. :-P [Dave] I vote for competing bike night festivities in a more upscale neighborhood, like, somewhere in Northern Virginia ;-) Dave -- Pop3Now Personal, Get quick remote access to your email accounts! Sign Up Now! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 12:19:48 2002 Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:19:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary Canterbury Subject: N. Arlington Inspection To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anyone got a recommendation on a place to get the bike inspected in N. Arlington? Please email me directly, as I'm not monitoring the mailing list. TIA, Mary '00 EX500 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 12:31:20 2002 From: "Jon Strang" To: "Mary Canterbury" , Subject: RE: N. Arlington Inspection Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 12:28:48 -0400 Mary, I went to the Texaco next door to Bob & Edith's on Columbus Pike. It's between Glebe Road and the Pentagon on the south side of the road. They made me turn on the bike, go from dim to brights and back, blinkers both sides, and toot my own horn. Then they took my money and gave me a sticker. Email me back if you need better directions. --jon 01 SooZooK Bandit 1200 > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Canterbury [mailto:mayor_canterbury@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:20 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: N. Arlington Inspection > > > Anyone got a recommendation on a place to get the bike > inspected in N. Arlington? Please email me directly, > as I'm not monitoring the mailing list. > > TIA, > Mary > '00 EX500 > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# ##### ##### ##### ################################################################# ################################################################# ################################################################# From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 13:46:30 2002 Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 10:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: giving rides to terminally ill children To: cvkgpena@XXXXXX, "piffiffi@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" --- "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" wrote: > Pier, > > You're going to have to find somen organization -- > probably a non-profit 501(c)3 that works with terminally > ill children, e.g., Make A Wish, Starlight -- to > sponsor/underwrite something like this. HUGE liability > that requires very good insurance coverage. I know > DC-Cycles probably couldn't do this and I don't know if > there are any other local m/c groups that would have the > requisite insurance coverage. I tend to think not. I > would asbolutely NOT recommend that you or anyone else > just volunteer on your own to do this (although it is a > worthy and noble idea). All it takes is one crash for > you to get sued up the wazoo. a thorough release agreement might suffice. but you can never have too much insurance.... > I'm sure Gimer and other > bottom feeders on the list would concur. i'd be quite interested to hear where chuck places himself in the hierarchy of the business world.... -- tg, bf __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 14:28:50 2002 Subject: RE: RE: N. Arlington Inspection From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:28:42 -0400 To: "jmstrang@XXXXXX" , "mayor_canterbury@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Although Jon's suggestion is a good one, he is obviously as directionally-impaired as most females. The aforementioned Texaco is in SOUTH Arlington and the question asked for places in NORTH Arlington. Either you can't read or you're just a moron (or both!) %^) If venturing into South Arlington isn't your cup of tea, you might also try the no-name gas/service station on Wilson Boulevard, a few blocks west of the 10th Street intersection (where the Hess gas station is) on the right side of the road. Sorry, but I can't remember the cross street off the top of my head. 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Please email me directly, > as I'm not monitoring the mailing list. > > TIA, > Mary > '00 EX500 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 14:50:41 2002 From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: RE: N. Arlington Inspection Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:48:08 -0400 > > Although Jon's suggestion is a good one, That's 'cuz I made it. Most of my suggestions are F-ING GREAT, but I'm a bit busy today. > he is obviously as > directionally-impaired as most females. Which could be interpreted in a non-misogynistic way: I'm not directionally-impaired, and neither are most women. But since I don't believe that was your intention, I do wonder how some woman found her way to marry you, Chuck. I extend her my condolences. > The aforementioned > Texaco is in SOUTH Arlington and the question asked for places in > NORTH Arlington. Alas, Chuck is right. I'll buy you a beer. Drink, up chuck. > Either you can't read or you're just a moron > (or both!) %^) If you understood logic, you would realize that "or both" is redundant...or you like to run at the keyboard. > --jon (with smiles all around, of course) From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 15:09:33 2002 Subject: RE: RE: giving rides to terminally ill children From: "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:09:31 -0400 To: "t_gimer@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" > i'd be quite interested to hear where chuck places himself in the hierarchy of the business world.... At least higher (even if just ever so slightly) up the food chain than you. And as someone who works at the Cato Institute to defend libertarianism, free markets, and capitalism, I am a strong supporter of you being a bottom feeder extraordinaire. %^) -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 15:17:27 2002 Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:17:21 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: RE: N. Arlington Inspection Jon pointed out - > Although Jon's suggestion is a good one, That's 'cuz I made it. Most of my suggestions are F-ING GREAT, but I'm a bit busy today. > he is obviously as > directionally-impaired as most females. Which could be interpreted in a non-misogynistic way: I'm not directionally-impaired, and neither are most women. [Dave] Not to pick nits, Jon, but Chuck said 'females', not 'women'. By women, you mean female humans. Chuck is perhaps referring to some sort of farm animal, like, say... sheep... which are infamous for poor senses of direction, hence the need for shepherds & herd dogs... I'm sure Chuck was referring to the female of a species which he has more familiarity than human females ;-) Dave -- Pop3Now Personal, Get quick remote access to your email accounts! Sign Up Now! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 15:21:50 2002 From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: RE: giving rides to terminally ill children Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:19:17 -0400 Chuck wrote: > ...And as someone who works at the Cato Institute... But have you ever once, just once, cut loose and answered the phone: "Inspector Clouseau's residence?" --jon p.s. OK, OK, you've heard it a million times. But I just had to say it. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 16:11:26 2002 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 16:17:12 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: sdave@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: N. Arlington Inspection > [Dave] Not to pick nits, Jon, but Chuck said 'females', > not 'women'. By women, you mean female humans. Chuck is perhaps > referring to some sort of farm animal, like, say... sheep... which > are infamous for poor senses of direction, hence the need for > shepherds & herd dogs... 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And as someone who works at the > Cato Institute to defend libertarianism, free markets, > and capitalism, I am a strong supporter of you being a > bottom feeder extraordinaire. %^) you haven't answered my question. without alluding to the position in the hierarchy where you (with no support whatsoever) suggest that I fit, please instruct the list as to why your presence in the business community is even remotely useful. be honest. i'd do my best to pick you apart, bit by bit, using information about your organization... but the http://www.cato.org website isn't even working! "think tank"? "jalopy" seems more precise. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 16:46:06 2002 From: "Paul Wilson" To: , Subject: Re: RE: giving rides to terminally ill children Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 16:48:10 -0400 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" > --- "cvkgpena@XXXXXX" > wrote: > > > i'd be quite interested to hear where chuck places > > himself > > in the hierarchy of the business world.... > > > > At least higher (even if just ever so slightly) up the > > food chain than you. And as someone who works at the > > Cato Institute to defend libertarianism, free markets, > > and capitalism, I am a strong supporter of you being a > > bottom feeder extraordinaire. %^) > > you haven't answered my question. > > without alluding to the position in the hierarchy where you > (with no support whatsoever) suggest that I fit, please > instruct the list as to why your presence in the business > community is even remotely useful. be honest. > > i'd do my best to pick you apart, bit by bit, using > information about your organization... but the > http://www.cato.org website isn't even working! "think > tank"? "jalopy" seems more precise. Envy rears its ugly head perchance? Re: Chuck at Cato. Nice work if you can get it and kudos, I say. I wish I could get paid by the rant. :) At least he's not a civil servant. I do find it amusing sometimes when career gummint employees (and the ubiquitous gummint contractors and retirees who are legion in this area) rant and rave about high taxes and the superiority of the almighty free market.... Paul in DC From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 17:11:32 2002 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 17:13:10 -0400 To: , From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: RE: N. Arlington Inspection At 02:48 PM 5/6/2002, Jon Strang wrote: >If you understood logic, you would realize that "or both" is redundant...or >you like to run at the keyboard. Well, if *Jon* understood logic, he'd know that a logical "or" can be either inclusive or exclusive of the case wherein both conditions are true. Boolean logic is not the only logic. 8;) -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 17:14:17 2002 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 17:15:56 -0400 To: , From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: RE: giving rides to terminally ill children At 03:19 PM 5/6/2002, Jon Strang wrote: >Chuck wrote: > > > > ...And as someone who works at the Cato Institute... > >But have you ever once, just once, cut loose and answered the phone: >"Inspector Clouseau's residence?" > >--jon > >p.s. OK, OK, you've heard it a million times. But I just had to say it. But on a moto newslist, shouldn't that be the Kato(h) Institute? Now go to your rhum. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 17:19:20 2002 Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 17:20:59 -0400 To: Tom Gimer , cvkgpena@XXXXXX, "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: RE: giving rides to terminally ill children At 04:21 PM 5/6/2002, Tom Gimer wrote: >without alluding to the position in the hierarchy where you >(with no support whatsoever) suggest that I fit, please >instruct the list as to why your presence in the business >community is even remotely useful. be honest. Yeah. At least Tom's occupation has provided the inspiration and title for a terrific folk album and song: "1,000,000 Lawyers, and Other Natural Disasters." -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Mon May 6 17:35:46 2002 From: "Jon Strang" To: Subject: RE: RE: N. Arlington Inspection Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 17:33:12 -0400 Nay, Nay, Moose-breath. I believe he would've been required, even in the decadent den of a Philosophy department at a liberal university, to use the "either...or" terminology to signal out an exclusive disjunction. Which he didn't, and was therefore, redundant in his inclusion of the phrase "or both." Of course, you are correct in that I should exercise due diligence in my decoding of Chuck's rampant rambling rants. I should never make the assumption that he is making, or even capable of making, the distinction between inclusive and exclusive disjunctions. And Chuckian Logic, unlike Mr. Boole's fine work, doesn't always produce coherent, nor repeatable, results. --jon 01 s00z00k Bandito Grande > -----Larry Larson engaged keyboard before brain: > > Well, if *Jon* unde