Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (Apri

From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 00:06:40 2001 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:06:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Splat! To: DCCycles It's probably not the answer you want to hear, but . . . a BIG windshield that's far enough forward to get the air blast over your helmet, yet low enough to just see over. It will blow the little ones up and over the helmet, the really big heavy ones (eg the aforementioned cicadas) will still slam into the face shield. Leon. ZX6 pseudoConnie Ninja 250s John Deere and Turtle Turtle seems to think I like bugs, no large windscreen. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 02:34:19 2001 From: "Ahalan" To: "dc-cycles $E-mail$" Subject: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 02:32:57 -0700 Posted on: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst?.dir=/MC&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.d one=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst%3f.dir=/MC%26.src=ph%26.view= t I posted just about every picture I developed up there so they're not all good - and darnit I need a stronger telephoto lens on my Canon (eh...don't go there). Roach definitely got the lion's share of attention - if you want your picture taken that often you need to supply this (sorry excuse for a) photographer with an even better grill and beer - didn't think you could... Laura - put some of these up in the DC-Cycles web page ? Niv BMW F650ST Canon Elan II w/ 28-135mm zoom (w/ electronic stabilizer). From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 06:42:55 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: "'James Reazor'" , Subject: RE: Splat!!! Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:44:40 -0400 Ever catch a cicada in the face shield? Yup. Talk about your obstructed views. Of course I'm not entirely sure it was a cicada but I can't think of any other flying insects in Del that would make a thick gooey splat that big. Covered the face shield top to bottom and about the center 1/3 left to right. Yet another reason to wear a full face lid. Agreed. I had one hit my helmet and splattered over my whole field of vision. That one I had to lift the shield & stop for.. Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 08:18:53 2001 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:18:38 EDT Subject: Re: Splat!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --part1_ff.5ba7e81.2820039e_boundary All I can say is if you haven't ridden during Love-Bug season in Florida you don't know Splat. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer --part1_ff.5ba7e81.2820039e_boundary All I can say is if you haven't ridden during Love-Bug season in Florida you
don't know Splat.

John Walters (Long John)
PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Up near DC

Honda ST1100X Pan European
(The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.)
BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles
Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer --part1_ff.5ba7e81.2820039e_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 08:29:42 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 05:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: RE: Splat!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I steal wet naps from restaurants and keep them in my jacket pockets. They're great for cleaning your hands and visor. --- Dave Yates wrote: > > S100 wax on the shield, and keep a rag & some > water with you. Rag should > be cotton, like a cloth diaper, so as not to scratch > the shield. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 08:38:43 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 05:38:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Belstaff Boots a-crackin' To: Matthew Patton , DCC I've had a pair of Doc Martin leather boots for about 4 years, and they can be made to look almost new with some soap and polish. These Belstaff boots are cracking like that guy from the X-files Sunday. It looks like someone (aliens, perhaps?) made a million little X-Acto knife cuts where the boots bend. Definitely not normal cracking. A guy in the Norton club has a pair of these boots, and he said he's had them for a few years. They look about the same as mine as far as the severity of cracking, so maybe it won't get any worse. I just wonder about their ability to repel water now. Rich --- Matthew Patton wrote: > they're leather boots. They 'crack'. why wouldn't > they? doesn't your skin? > -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 09:03:50 2001 From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Matthew Rosenstock'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:01:29 -0400 When you clean off the bugs, be very gentle. Remember that the exoskeletons of those guys crunch up into little pieces to become a very effective abrasive not unlike sandpaper. Best to apply some luke-water first and try to help them to quietly slide off before doing the residue removal. Saul Goldberg Gaithersburg MD '89 pearl PC800 -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:30 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Splat!!! I steal wet naps from restaurants and keep them in my jacket pockets. They're great for cleaning your hands and visor. --- Dave Yates wrote: > > S100 wax on the shield, and keep a rag & some > water with you. Rag should > be cotton, like a cloth diaper, so as not to scratch > the shield. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 09:18:53 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Belstaff Boots a-crackin' To: Scratch , Matthew Patton , DCC --- Scratch wrote: > I've had a pair of Doc Martin leather boots for about > 4 years, and they can be made to look almost new with > some soap and polish. These Belstaff boots are > cracking like that guy from the X-files Sunday. It > looks like someone (aliens, perhaps?) made a million > little X-Acto knife cuts where the boots bend. > Definitely not normal cracking. > > A guy in the Norton club has a pair of these boots, > and he said he's had them for a few years. They look > about the same as mine as far as the severity of > cracking, so maybe it won't get any worse. I just > wonder about their ability to repel water now. i've got a pair of bellstaffs, but they ain't leather. yet, what you have described is happening to mine as well. they may not hold the water out very well, but they do a fine job of holding it in once it gets there. ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 09:47:39 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:45:50 -0400 From: "Steven C. Di Pietro" To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: Re: Splat!!! > > > I carry a wee little can of Plexus and a lens cloth. That stuff works > wonders. > > -James And I carry a small bottle of "Lens Cleaner" from the Vision Center at Wal-Mart. Buy it once, and you get free refills. Can't beat that. Steven C. Di Pietro Assistant National Director National Marketing Coordinator Suzuki Owners Club USA http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:20:15 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:18:29 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Splat!!! To: Suzookus Maximus Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Suzookus Maximus wrote: > Short of getting one of those > helmets that accepts tears offs or stopping frequently > to wipe off the bugs (glove wiping usually just smears > bug guts!) are there any suggestions? Ride farther, ride faster, kill more??? see my sig. :) Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:21:38 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 07:21:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again To: DCC This is what Smart Tag had to say in response to my questions. Thay kant spel. From:Smart-Tag Re: Motorcycle version? Four things you need to know 1. We do not have a different unit for motorcycles 2. We do not garentee that it will work 3. There is no lower rate for motorcycles 4. Of the two types of tags ask for the bumper tag as that seems to work best. It will need to be mounted. At 09:50 AM 04/30/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Is there a different smart-tag unit for motorcycles? > >Is there a lower rate? > >Do I have to mount it in the open, of can I keep it in >my pocket? > >Thanks, > >Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:24:18 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:23:06 -0400 To: "D.C.Cycles-L" From: John West Subject: Re: Splat!!! I stole a jar of monitor cleaning wipes from work. They work really well and have some kind of coating action that make it easier to clean the goop next time. Problem with them is that they dry out really quickly, so it's better to keep them at home than try to carry them. I think they come in individual packets too. -john At 9:45 AM -0400 5/1/01, Steven C. Di Pietro wrote: > > > > > > I carry a wee little can of Plexus and a lens cloth. That stuff works > > wonders. > > > > -James > > And I carry a small bottle of "Lens Cleaner" from the Vision Center at >Wal-Mart. Buy it once, and you get free refills. Can't beat that. > > >Steven C. Di Pietro >Assistant National Director >National Marketing Coordinator >Suzuki Owners Club USA >http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:39:46 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:36:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) --============_-1223394724==_ma============ >Posted on: > >http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst?.dir=/MC&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.d >one=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst%3f.dir=/MC%26.src=ph%26.view= >t If you look at the picture entitled "2-Down by H20" (top row, second from the left), you can see a rather robust and manly corner worker dashing to the aid of the fallen rider...oh waitaminute....that's me! Nice shot, Niv! Oh yeah, Randy's in there somewhere too....he's the sickly, feminine looking fellow in the funny hat. -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --============_-1223394724==_ma============ Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (Apri

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If you look at the picture entitled "2-Down by H20" (top row, second from the left), you can see a rather robust and manly corner worker dashing to the aid of the fallen rider...oh waitaminute....that's me! Nice shot, Niv! Oh yeah, Randy's in there somewhere too....he's the sickly, feminine looking fellow in the funny hat.

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"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it."

-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)

Sean Jordan
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)
WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html

--============_-1223394724==_ma============-- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:47:56 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 07:47:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!! On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Suzookus Maximus wrote: > Seems like it is bug season in Loudoun county. I went > bug guts!) are there any suggestions? > Ride with your visor open. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:51:35 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:51:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again I've always jammed the regular window mounted one up under my windscreen. If you don't have a windscreen, I don't know what to tell you. Strong velcro on top of the headlight housing, maybe? -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:59:02 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:55:28 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) To: Sean Jordan Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sean Jordan wrote: > > > Posted on: > > > > http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst?.dir=/MC&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.d > > > one=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst%3f.dir=/MC%26.src=ph%26.view= > > t > > If you look at the picture entitled "2-Down by H20" (top row, second from > the left), you can see a rather robust and manly corner worker dashing to > the aid of the fallen rider...oh waitaminute....that's me! Nice shot, > Niv! Oh yeah, Randy's in there somewhere too....he's the sickly, feminine > looking fellow in the funny hat. > > -- > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:06:04 2001 From: Boiade@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:05:34 EDT Subject: Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) To: sean.jordan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In the "Vintage" photo that's me in pole position on the 350 in the Formula 500 race. You can see the 66 of the 669. Finished 5th, I guess I went backwards!!! Wish you had taken a pic of me on the 250 in the Vintage 2 race where I started way back and finished 3rd. Less embarassing. On the other hand people tend to take pictures of the front row at the start. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:07:34 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:07:05 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Happy Birthday Randy! Let's all wish fellow lister Randy Moran a great big Happy Birthday, and tease him mercilessly in celebration! -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:12:20 2001 From: "Smith, Steven" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Happy IWD! Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:13:59 -0400 Let me be the first to wish everyone a very happy International Workers Day! Remember, we haven't given up on our goal of world domination, we just changed the logo on the door. Have a lovely day of self-loathing! Your friend (Not!), Captain T.I.A. Greenhouse "Workers of the world untie! You have nothing to loosen but your shoes!" G. Marx From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:29:11 2001 From: "Matthew Patton" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:29:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:34:50 2001 From: eschelzig@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Summit Point Motels Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:30:23 -0400 Sorry if this has been covered, but I'm heading out to Summit Point raceway next week, and need to spend the night somewhere cheap from Monday onto Tuesday. Any suggestions? Thanks, Erik 01 KLR650 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:50:40 2001 From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Matthew Patton'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:48:16 -0400 Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. For getting done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) roads are best left to government. Furthermore, private industry has never been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other things, roads and other transportation expenses. There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:07:07 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:05:20 -0400 So Saul, how long have you worked for the IRS? :-) -----Original Message----- From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:48 AM To: 'Matthew Patton'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. For getting done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) roads are best left to government. Furthermore, private industry has never been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other things, roads and other transportation expenses. There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:12:19 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:12:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread To: "Goldberg, Saul" , "'Matthew Patton'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX If there is one place Mr. Patton lives, that is a fantasy world. --- "Goldberg, Saul" wrote: > Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY > government can do > effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. > For getting > done, government is by far the best bargain. > Wremember that when an > enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone > is making money off of > the enterprise without actually contributing to the > end product itself. That > is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal > interest to us) roads are > best left to government. Furthermore, private > industry has never been, and > nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in > regulating itself so that > it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, > the consumers of the > product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us > from some of the > wayward activities of businesses is something that > government does for us in > exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some > taxes. > > If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote > early, vote often, and > vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. > You "vote" every time > you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is > finding itself in a > helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car > tax that was essential to > the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find > money for, among other > things, roads and other transportation expenses. > > There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone > who thinks that things > will be fine without the expense of dollars and > effort to make them so is > living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Happy IWD! > > > hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do > something about the scum > sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and > Richmond who think they > are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they > earn it for once. > -- > > > "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, > they should have voted to convict." > > > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com > > > Powered by Outblaze __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:28:55 2001 From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Gary Foreman'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:26:34 -0400 Long enough to need a vacation. Now about your account... Yes, I know it sounded like a free commercial plug for them. But my main point is that everything worth doing has some costs attached to it. Want a meal? You need to either go somewhere and put down money, or prepare it from materials on hand. Want to see a movie, go snowboarding, or even get laid? All of these require some work and some money. We might think about why we willingly accept some costs but adamantly insist that others are excessive or unnecessary. Or is this discussion more for that post ride tavern stop, assuming I am still welcome? -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:05 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread So Saul, how long have you worked for the IRS? :-) -----Original Message----- From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:48 AM To: 'Matthew Patton'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. For getting done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) roads are best left to government. Furthermore, private industry has never been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other things, roads and other transportation expenses. There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:40:45 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:39:25 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!! To: Cc: Just get one of the smaller containers. ;-) They're about the size of a bar of soap. Scooter In a message dated Tue, 1 May 2001 10:29:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, John West writes: << I stole a jar of monitor cleaning wipes from work. They work really well and have some kind of coating action that make it easier to clean the goop next time. Problem with them is that they dry out really quickly, so it's better to keep them at home than try to carry them. I think they come in individual packets too. -john At 9:45 AM -0400 5/1/01, Steven C. Di Pietro wrote: > > > > > > I carry a wee little can of Plexus and a lens cloth. That stuff works > > wonders. > > > > -James > > And I carry a small bottle of "Lens Cleaner" from the Vision Center at >Wal-Mart. Buy it once, and you get free refills. Can't beat that. > > >Steven C. Di Pietro >Assistant National Director >National Marketing Coordinator >Suzuki Owners Club USA >http://www.soc-usa.org >> From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:43:17 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:42:01 -0400 Hey, I'm a Govie. I do have issues with that damn car tax. Just raise the sales tax or something that doesn't suck my entire bank account once a year. Spread it out a little! Now if that money ONLY went to highways and such I can see a car tax. But that's not the case, and I get penalized for owning a lot of cars and someone who has one car and 6 kids in the public schools is paying little....hey damn it now you got me on my soapbox :-) Nice evening for bike ride. Time to clear my head! (no comments about my head already being clear needed) Gary -----Original Message----- From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:27 PM To: 'Gary Foreman'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Long enough to need a vacation. Now about your account... Yes, I know it sounded like a free commercial plug for them. But my main point is that everything worth doing has some costs attached to it. Want a meal? You need to either go somewhere and put down money, or prepare it from materials on hand. Want to see a movie, go snowboarding, or even get laid? All of these require some work and some money. We might think about why we willingly accept some costs but adamantly insist that others are excessive or unnecessary. Or is this discussion more for that post ride tavern stop, assuming I am still welcome? -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:05 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread So Saul, how long have you worked for the IRS? :-) -----Original Message----- From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:48 AM To: 'Matthew Patton'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. For getting done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) roads are best left to government. Furthermore, private industry has never been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other things, roads and other transportation expenses. There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 13:29:31 2001 From: Brian Roach To: "Goldberg, Saul" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:29:23 -0400 On Tue, 01 May 2001, Goldberg, Saul wrote: > Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do > effectively and efficiently, Yes, like waste millions of dollars in taxpayers money with no accountability. Ask them for a detailed report on where the money actually goes sometime. > not to mention fairly. You're right there... I'm quite sure they're equal opportunity wasters of our money. > For getting > done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an > enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of > the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. Incorrect. The person making money LIKES making money, and wants to keep doing so. This is what drives private business - producing and selling a product. If people are unsatisfied with the product, they buy something else and the company losees money/goes under. (Unless, of course, you're microsoft or another monopoly). You are having this discussion because the internet was taken over by private enterprise years ago. > That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) > roads are best left to government. Prisons: Being farmed out to private enterprise due to government ineptitude. Schools: Ranked damn near last in comparison to other Western Countries. Roads: Debatable. I've seen some pretty nice neighborhoods around here maintained by the HOAs, but I'll give you this one... the Beltway is usually in pretty good shape and we have an extensive road infastructure here in the US. I guess one outa three ain't bad : / > Furthermore, private industry has never > been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating > itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the > consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from > some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government > does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. Um... where do the billions of dollars in taxes paid by those businesses go? > If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and > vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time > you open your wallet.) Bush... Gore .... Bush ... Gore ... anyone got a coin? The same system keeps others from getting equal funding and airtime by presenting a chicken/egg challange - to get funding and airtime you need 5% of the popular vote... without funding and airtime you're not going to get 5% of the popular vote. Bush promised a tax cut... that prob swayed a few people (635? :) ) > Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a > helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to > the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other > things, roads and other transportation expenses. You'll notice that the ONLY thing they talk about cutting from losing this "essential" tax is schools and social services (police, fire, etc). WTF?? As Gary said, raise the state sales tax to 5%. Or how about... cut things other than schools and social services... but see, that'd cut into the kickbacks our duly elected officials are getting for protecting special and business interests. And WHY is the car tax so "essential" when other states seem to be able to get by just fine without it? (MD, as an example). Hire an accountant, stop screwing us every year for being able to own a decent vehicle. > There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things > will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is > living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. Anyone who thinks the government is anything other than badly managed and bloated needs to take a business or economics course. If you ran a private business in such a manner it would have been out of business as quickly as it started. VA is one of the highest taxed states in the country, and I'll be glad once I'm out of it. And The fed gov't seems to be figuring out how to give us a break as well.. because people are tired of getting very little for the high taxes they pay. I wouldn't mind paying taxes if I actually saw the money going to good use. But if you research the examples you gave alone as things the gov't does "well", you'd find that the US is FAR behind the rest of the world in those areas. That, I find unacceptable, especially given the size of our business and private tax base. :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 13:57:13 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:54:52 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Roach fanned the flames: > On Tue, 01 May 2001, Goldberg, Saul wrote: > > Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do > > effectively and efficiently, > > Yes, like waste millions of dollars in taxpayers money with no > accountability. Ask them for a detailed report on where the money actually > goes sometime. You *can* get the bulk of the info through FOIA requests, but it's very difficult to do. Like the US park police budget ; something like a million for new equipment, but not specific on how much going to the latest fancy, shmancy radar guns. MOST of the money goes to reps & senators that only work 2 or 3 days a week about 6 weeks a year, yet they get paid 3 times the average salary... If it was truly about savings, then all the elected officials would elect for a pay cut.... SHYEAH. ... > Incorrect. The person making money LIKES making money, and wants to keep > doing so. This is what drives private business - producing and selling a > product. If people are unsatisfied with the product, they buy something else > and the company losees money/goes under. (Unless, of course, you're microsoft > or another monopoly). You are having this discussion because the internet > was taken over by private enterprise years ago. People spend what they can, which may be more than they MAY... > > If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and > > vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time > > you open your wallet.) > > Bush... Gore .... Bush ... Gore ... anyone got a coin? The same system keeps > others from getting equal funding and airtime by presenting a chicken/egg > challange - to get funding and airtime you need 5% of the popular vote... > without funding and airtime you're not going to get 5% of the popular vote. > Bush promised a tax cut... that prob swayed a few people (635? :) ) It's Congress too, don't forget. And they have the purse strings. > > > > Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a > > helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to > > the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other > > things, roads and other transportation expenses. > > You'll notice that the ONLY thing they talk about cutting from losing this > "essential" tax is schools and social services (police, fire, etc). WTF?? As > Gary said, raise the state sales tax to 5%. Or how about... cut things other > than schools and social services... but see, that'd cut into the kickbacks > our duly elected officials are getting for protecting special and business > interests. And WHY is the car tax so "essential" when other states seem to > be able to get by just fine without it? (MD, as an example). Hire an > accountant, stop screwing us every year for being able to own a decent > vehicle. Governments of all forms need to have $$$ to exist. They get it one way or another in VA, it's the car tax, in MD it's the piggyback tax. They tax everything ; gas, everything else that you buy, property (basically, for the permission to live where you do), It's really quite ridiculous. Sort of like when you were in High school or college ; each teacher giving you 3 hours of homework, x 8 classes - meaning 24 hours of homework / day... so as long as you don't do anything else but homework, you'll be ok. :-| Each government entity gets their cut & by the time everyone is done with you, half your money's gone... > > > There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things > > will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is > > living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. > > Anyone who thinks the government is anything other than badly managed and > bloated needs to take a business or economics course. If you ran a private > business in such a manner it would have been out of business as quickly as it > started. Not to mention you'd be in jail, since it's illegal for all of us, the great unwashed, to misappropriate other's money, but it's perfectly fine for the governments... > > VA is one of the highest taxed states in the country, and I'll be glad once > I'm out of it. MD is higher, with more up front taxes. COL is higher in VA, resulting in higher net tax. MD has no yearly inspection or PP tax, but you pay 5% up front & the one inspection is 40 smackers & damn strict. That, I find unacceptable, especially given the size of our business > and private tax base. The problem is, the government just keeps taking over things, and offering new programs and the money has to come from somewhere. either cut the government or pays your moneys.... Dave -- Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 14:02:42 2001 From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'roach@XXXXXX'" , "Goldberg, Saul" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:02:26 -0400 Very well put. I'm trying so hard to stay out of the flame-throwing contests these days, but what the hell... First on the comment about taking the economics courses: it should be a requirement to be allowed to vote. Lack of understanding of the necessary balance between gov't & business is the biggest problem; dare I say even that's why the uneducated sway so heavily to the big government/redistribution of wealth models (that the democrats often favor) Second comment on fairness: Oops I'm out of time & off to a meeting. I'll just say that fairness is a VERY subjective term. Flame on~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Brian Roach [mailto:roach@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 1:29 PM To: Goldberg, Saul; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread On Tue, 01 May 2001, Goldberg, Saul wrote: > Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do > effectively and efficiently, Yes, like waste millions of dollars in taxpayers money with no accountability. Ask them for a detailed report on where the money actually goes sometime. > not to mention fairly. You're right there... I'm quite sure they're equal opportunity wasters of our money. > For getting > done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an > enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of > the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. Incorrect. The person making money LIKES making money, and wants to keep doing so. This is what drives private business - producing and selling a product. If people are unsatisfied with the product, they buy something else and the company losees money/goes under. (Unless, of course, you're microsoft or another monopoly). You are having this discussion because the internet was taken over by private enterprise years ago. > That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) > roads are best left to government. Prisons: Being farmed out to private enterprise due to government ineptitude. Schools: Ranked damn near last in comparison to other Western Countries. Roads: Debatable. I've seen some pretty nice neighborhoods around here maintained by the HOAs, but I'll give you this one... the Beltway is usually in pretty good shape and we have an extensive road infastructure here in the US. I guess one outa three ain't bad : / > Furthermore, private industry has never > been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating > itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the > consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from > some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government > does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. Um... where do the billions of dollars in taxes paid by those businesses go? > If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and > vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time > you open your wallet.) Bush... Gore .... Bush ... Gore ... anyone got a coin? The same system keeps others from getting equal funding and airtime by presenting a chicken/egg challange - to get funding and airtime you need 5% of the popular vote... without funding and airtime you're not going to get 5% of the popular vote. Bush promised a tax cut... that prob swayed a few people (635? :) ) > Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a > helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to > the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other > things, roads and other transportation expenses. You'll notice that the ONLY thing they talk about cutting from losing this "essential" tax is schools and social services (police, fire, etc). WTF?? As Gary said, raise the state sales tax to 5%. Or how about... cut things other than schools and social services... but see, that'd cut into the kickbacks our duly elected officials are getting for protecting special and business interests. And WHY is the car tax so "essential" when other states seem to be able to get by just fine without it? (MD, as an example). Hire an accountant, stop screwing us every year for being able to own a decent vehicle. > There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things > will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is > living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. Anyone who thinks the government is anything other than badly managed and bloated needs to take a business or economics course. If you ran a private business in such a manner it would have been out of business as quickly as it started. VA is one of the highest taxed states in the country, and I'll be glad once I'm out of it. And The fed gov't seems to be figuring out how to give us a break as well.. because people are tired of getting very little for the high taxes they pay. I wouldn't mind paying taxes if I actually saw the money going to good use. But if you research the examples you gave alone as things the gov't does "well", you'd find that the US is FAR behind the rest of the world in those areas. That, I find unacceptable, especially given the size of our business and private tax base. :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 14:25:54 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 11:25:33 -0400 From: Randy Moran CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Randy! Hardy Har-Har, Jordan. The answer is "34," and while that's more than your paltry 12 years, it's still not that old. Additionally, whilst you are chained to your desk today, using your employers Internet access to look up the stats on your favorite Pokemon characters, I will be taking the rest of the day off to ride my bike, the voltage rectifier on which is functioning perfectly BTW. Anyone who wants to ride this afternoon, drop me an email. Randy Sean Jordan wrote: > Let's all wish fellow lister Randy Moran a great big Happy Birthday, > and tease him mercilessly in celebration! > > -- > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 14:45:14 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:43:17 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: shipping cost To: DC Cycles List Some guy wrote: > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can call with info Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but does that sounds kind of high to anyone? I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I don't wanna get screwed on the shipping. Much thanks, Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 15:13:23 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:13:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitri Pappa Subject: Helmet painting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hi guys & gals, Anyone looking to get their helmet painted, a friend of mine is now open to the public. He does it in his spare time, but does a good job. Mild to wild. Apparently lots of wild for the Dirtbike crowd.. Located in Spotsylvania. website: Trueleo.com email: Troy@XXXXXX Regards, dp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 15:50:08 2001 Subject: Re: shipping cost To: Dc-Cycles@XXXXXX From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:11:18 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/01/2001 03:25:59 PM If you know the approximate weight and size of the package you can go to www.usps.com and calculate the shipping cost.. I would think that UPS has a similar service. James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX Dale Horstman @home.com> cc: Subject: shipping cost 05/01/2001 02:43 PM Some guy wrote: > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can call with info Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but does that sounds kind of high to anyone? I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I don't wanna get screwed on the shipping. Much thanks, Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 16:08:36 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:02:40 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Matthew Patton CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! Matthew Patton wrote: > hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. WOW! You lucky guy - only 25+% of your gross??? And you're bitching??? Oh yeah, I forgot, you're a Jimbo Gilmore fan - must have gone to the same school of no-math finance and don't have one clue what it realy costs taxwise.. And think how much lower your taxes would be if the tax boys said no more free rides and taxed - say church property fer starters... Whoa, babee, I see a few hundred thou of possible real estate tax within a mile of my house! Bill living in reality From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 16:14:23 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:08:33 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Dale Horstman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: shipping cost Nope, doesn't sound high, but I reckon you could shop around. Shipping surface is cheapest no matter what service is used, those overnites and 2nd days can skyroccket the cost. Wieght & size matter, but I can't imagine a front fairing wieghing all that much. Bill Dale Horstman wrote: > Some guy wrote: > > > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can call with info > > Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours > upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? > Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but > does that sounds kind of high to anyone? > > I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I don't wanna > get screwed on the shipping. > > Much thanks, > Horkster > > -- > Mandatory second line (CM tm) > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 16:36:01 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: shipping cost To: DC Cycles List I shipped a fairing I sold on eBay from Baltimore to California via UPS standard ground for about 9 bucks. If it's coming ground, that price is extremely high. If it's next day or two day delivery, it's in the ballpark. --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > Nope, doesn't sound high, but I reckon you could > shop around. Shipping > surface is cheapest no matter what service is used, > those overnites and > 2nd days can skyroccket the cost. Wieght & size > matter, but I can't > imagine a front fairing wieghing all that much. > > Bill > > Dale Horstman wrote: > > > Some guy wrote: > > > > > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can > call with info > > > > Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a > Concours > > upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is > excessive? > > Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, > but > > does that sounds kind of high to anyone? > > > > I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I > don't wanna > > get screwed on the shipping. > > > > Much thanks, > > Horkster > > > > -- > > Mandatory second line (CM tm) > > > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT > #322 - 9 of 99 done. > > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 16:58:43 2001 From: FGrefe@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:58:19 EDT Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 5/1/01 12:33:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sgoldber@XXXXXX writes: > Want to see a movie, go snowboarding, or even get laid? > All of these require some work and some money. NOT TRUE, NOT TRUE! I haven't paid money to get laid in at least a year, maybe more. Or maybe I haven't gotten laid in a year. Hmmm...No, it must be the first one. Yeah, I definitely haven't paid for it. Or maybe I've paid on credit and after I get married in a few weeks the bill will come due. Ooooh, that's a scary thought. A layaway plan. Get it... lay-away. I crack me up. Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 17:13:54 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:13:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Hey Danny Thompson What kind of hugger did you have on your VFR? Thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 17:42:11 2001 From: "Ahalan" To: , "dc-cycles $E-mail$" Subject: RE: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:41:14 -0700 Well next time make sure I know before the race where, what, why, how and when... Glad I got something of you. -----Original Message----- From: Boiade@XXXXXX [mailto:Boiade@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:06 AM To: sean.jordan@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) In the "Vintage" photo that's me in pole position on the 350 in the Formula 500 race. You can see the 66 of the 669. Finished 5th, I guess I went backwards!!! Wish you had taken a pic of me on the 250 in the Vintage 2 race where I started way back and finished 3rd. Less embarassing. On the other hand people tend to take pictures of the front row at the start. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 18:14:22 2001 From: "L4rite" To: "DC Cycles List" Subject: Re: shipping cost Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:11:28 -0700 Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but does that sounds kind of high to anyone? Horkster Dale, I had an XR350 engine shipped in from Kalifornia by air...it came into a shipping company at BWI, can't remember the name, but it is in the book.....it cost me about $30 for 3 day shipping, maybe Dulles has something similar...good luck. .......later Les... From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 18:42:32 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: "DC Cycles List $E-mail$" , "Zx $E-mail$" Subject: CURSES! Fouled again. Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:44:47 -0400 I've (gas) fouled yet another set of plugs. I found this out when I fired up AM(tm) this morning, to be rewarded with the 'Volkswagen' idle. So, after work, I furiously yanked apart the upper workings & pulled a plug. Sure enough, black as coal. Not oil fouled. So, now I need a new set of plugs. I only got 9 months out of these plugs...Here's my ?'s: AM(tm) has gobs of power, but, I commute on it, so I have to be able to run in traffic every once in a while. Currently, I'm running the NGK CR9E resistors, gapped at .025. I've got plenty of ignition, Dyna coils & a V&H powerpak, through stock wires. To me, the gap seems small. My mechanic disagrees with me, citing his opinion that for my type of ryding, I need a smaller plug gap. 9 months of plug life doesn't impress me. I say increase the gap... Are the NGK's a good plug (for a bike with over 12.5 -1 compression) n/a ? Any alternatives? Should I gap the plugs differently? What's the stock ZX11 plug gap? Hotter plug (heat range) ? cooler plug? Any pearls of plug wisdom welcome TIA, Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 19:28:52 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 19:27:11 -0400 From: Larry Meyer To: DCC Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again The regular Smart Tag works fine in a tank bag. It's only failed me once, and I was going 65. Larry Meyer Annandale, VA 1997 Bandit 1200 Scratch wrote: > This is what Smart Tag had to say in response to my > questions. Thay kant spel. > > From:Smart-Tag > Re: Motorcycle version? > > Four things you need to know > 1. We do not have a different unit for motorcycles > > 2. We do not garentee that it will work > > 3. There is no lower rate for motorcycles > > 4. Of the two types of tags ask for the bumper tag as > that seems to work best. It will need to be mounted. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 19:34:26 2001 From: "Laura Granato" To: , "Sean Jordan" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Randy! Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:34:48 -0400 > Let's all wish fellow lister Randy Moran a great big Happy Birthday, > and tease him mercilessly in celebration! > I tried to, but he never got back on IM today...happy birthday, Randy!!!! Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 20:50:50 2001 From: bergman@XXXXXX To: "Goldberg, Saul" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:47:12 -0400 In your message dated: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:01:29 EDT, The pithy ruminations from "Goldberg, Saul" on were: => When you clean off the bugs, be very gentle. Remember that the exoskeletons => of those guys crunch up into little pieces to become a very effective => abrasive not unlike sandpaper. Best to apply some luke-water first and try => to help them to quietly slide off before doing the residue removal. Good suggestion. My technique for the overnight clean up after a long day of riding is to soak a washcloth in the hottest water possible, then leave the towel draped over the faceshield for about 10 minutes. During a ride, I keep a "Wee Willie" and synthetic chamois in my tank bag. The Wee Willie is a small (~4oz) pump spray dispenser bottle with a sponge on one side and a small (~3") squeegee on the other. It's great for "at the stoplight clean the faceshield" moves. Mark => => Saul Goldberg => Gaithersburg MD => '89 pearl PC800 => => => -----Original Message----- => From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] => Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:30 AM => To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX => Subject: RE: Splat!!! => => => I steal wet naps from restaurants and keep them in my => jacket pockets. They're great for cleaning your hands => and visor. => => => --- Dave Yates wrote: => > => > S100 wax on the shield, and keep a rag & some => > water with you. Rag should => > be cotton, like a cloth diaper, so as not to scratch => > the shield. => => => __________________________________________________ => Do You Yahoo!? => Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices => http://auctions.yahoo.com/ => Mark Bergman Biker, IATSE #1 Stagehand, Rock Climber, Unix mechanic '94 Yamaha GTS1000A bergman@XXXXXX I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters 5+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 21:10:05 2001 From: "Dave Yates" Cc: Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:11:07 -0400 Mark confessed without shame: Good suggestion. My technique for the overnight clean up after a long day of riding is to soak a washcloth in the hottest water possible, then leave the towel draped over the faceshield for about 10 minutes. During a ride, I keep a "Wee Willie" Whoa Mark... more than we need to know ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 21:58:42 2001 From: bergman@XXXXXX To: "Dave Yates" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:56:37 -0400 In your message dated: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:11:07 EDT, The pithy ruminations from "Dave Yates" on were: => Mark confessed without shame: => Good suggestion. My technique for the overnight clean up after a long day of => riding is to soak a washcloth in the hottest water possible, then leave the => towel draped over the faceshield for about 10 minutes. => => During a ride, I keep a "Wee Willie" => Whoa Mark... more than we need to know ;-) I thought someone would enjoy that...here's the whole scoop: http://www.weewilly.com/ Mark "Yeah, everything has a URL now...even my Wee Willy" Bergman => => => => Dave Yates => '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' => '97 Cobra #5148 => http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ => => From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 22:04:47 2001 From: "Dave Yates" Cc: Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:07:02 -0400 Mark "Yeah, everything has a URL now...even my Wee Willy" Bergman Yeah, yeah. Let me guess... You shall call him.... Minime... ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 22:14:24 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 22:08:34 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Dave Yates CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Wee Willy, etc etc... sheesh. Screw that, I just let the grundge accumulate. Every time I go on a clean faceshied binge I'm horrorfied! It's scarey out there with clear vison! Bill Dave Yates wrote: > Mark "Yeah, everything has a URL now...even my Wee Willy" Bergman > Yeah, yeah. Let me guess... You shall call him.... Minime... > ;-) > > Dave Yates > '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' > '97 Cobra #5148 > http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 22:17:32 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: "'William J. Huson'" Cc: Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:19:39 -0400 Wee Willy, etc etc... sheesh. Screw that, I just let the grundge accumulate. Every time I go on a clean faceshied binge I'm horrorfied! It's scarey out there with clear vison! Besides, with a spotless helmet, shield, windscreen, etc.. you'll be positively identified as either a poser or a squid ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 22:58:39 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 22:52:43 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Dave Yates CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Dave Yates wrote: > Wee Willy, etc etc... sheesh. Screw that, I just let the grundge > accumulate. > Every time I go on a clean faceshied binge I'm horrorfied! It's scarey out > there with clear vison! > > Besides, with a spotless helmet, shield, windscreen, etc.. you'll be > positively identified as either a poser or a squid ;-) > Not a chance. Yesterday a dude and a chibck on a sporty pulled up next to me at a light. He looked at my rather soiled Harley and sneered. I gave them my you stupid fucker grin - the girl was wearing a tank and shorts, like goodbye skin if she fell off. Oh yreah, and the obligatory beanie helmets too. Think there's a relationship to helmet quality and the brain therein? Bill From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 23:09:14 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: "'William J. Huson'" Cc: Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:11:31 -0400 Bill Huson wondered aloud: Think there's a relationship to helmet quality and the brain therein? Snell 95 & 2000 approved lids - obviously superior intelligence & mental capacity Snell (older) lids - smarter than the aaaverage bear ! Dot full face or 3/4 helmet - better than average mental capacity, capable of independent thought. Barely legal beanie lids - crafted for those of lower intelligence brackets, since they wouldn't know any better. Not quite capable of independent thought. Something along those lines, Bill ? ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 06:50:34 2001 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 03:50:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up To: "William J. Huson" , Dave Yates Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > Dave Yates wrote: > > > Wee Willy, etc etc... sheesh. Screw that, I just let > > the grundge accumulate. Every time I go on a clean > > faceshied binge I'm horrorfied! It's scarey out > > there with clear vison! > > > > Besides, with a spotless helmet, shield, windscreen, > > etc.. you'll be positively identified as either a poser > > or a squid ;-) > > > > Not a chance. Yesterday a dude and a chibck on a sporty > pulled up next to me at a light. He looked at my rather > soiled Harley and sneered. I gave them my you stupid > fucker grin - the girl was wearing a tank and shorts, > like goodbye skin if she fell off. Oh yreah, and the > obligatory beanie helmets too. > Think there's a relationship to helmet quality and the > brain therein? there may be a correlation....however, and i mean no offense here, people who wear full face helmets and other protective gear when they're riding their harleys look odd/out of place. they make v-stars and valkeries for people like that. the harley was meant to be ridden by a tattooed, helmetless mofo. ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 08:15:37 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 08:09:40 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Tom Gimer CC: Dave Yates , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Tom Gimer wrote: > there may be a correlation....however, and i mean no > offense here, people who wear full face helmets and other > protective gear when they're riding their harleys look > odd/out of place. they make v-stars and valkeries for > people like that. > > the harley was meant to be ridden by a tattooed, helmetless > mofo. Even worse, my Harley has legal 80db pipes, but I'm used to being the odd man out. I was thinking tattoo but my woman was in therupy for months after I got my ear pierced back in `88. Bill From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 08:56:19 2001 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'trey_22206@XXXXXX'" Subject: Inexpensive OEM Suzuki Parts Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:56:38 -0400 Trey wondered, "Where is the best place to get a shift lever for a 99 SV650." I've not kept up on OEM Suzuki parts since Banzai dropped mail order (& '80 GS 450 died) -- but: http://www.hondasuzukinorth.com has Honda parts for ~25% off list and I guess their Suzuki parts are similar. "Cycles USA says 68.99 but they don't have it in stock." Bwahahaha Cycles USA will order the part . . . eventually . . . maybe. Follow Thad's advice or go to Myers Cycles in Kensington. John or Steve will order the part right away. Cycles USA will order when they get enough orders together. That'll be in one week, two, four . . .? Internet or mail order will have the part on your door step in a few days. Carl in Bethesda (from the gummimint and here to hep . . .) From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 09:05:40 2001 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:05:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Re: Inexpensive OEM Suzuki Parts To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'trey_22206@XXXXXX'" Gee thanks Carl. Unfortunately I already put my order in with Cycles Usa Doh!!:-((. Who knows maybe it will work out. If I don't have the part in a week (which is when they said I would have it) I will cancel the order with my credit card company and try one of the other suggestions. Thanks Trey --- "Custer, Carl" wrote: > Trey wondered, > "Where is the best place to get a shift lever for a > 99 SV650." > I've not kept up on OEM Suzuki parts since Banzai > dropped mail order (& '80 > GS 450 died) -- but: > http://www.hondasuzukinorth.com > has Honda parts for ~25% off list and I guess their > Suzuki parts are > similar. > > "Cycles USA says 68.99 but they don't have it in > stock." > Bwahahaha > Cycles USA will order the part . . . eventually . . > . maybe. > Follow Thad's advice or go to Myers Cycles in > Kensington. > John or Steve will order the part right away. > Cycles USA will order when they get enough orders > together. That'll be in > one week, two, four . . .? > Internet or mail order will have the part on your > door step in a few days. > Carl in Bethesda (from the gummimint and here to hep > . . .) > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 09:17:11 2001 From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:05:25 -0400 I've played around with a couple spots on the bike, but the 'best' success I've had has been in the map pocket on top of my tank bag. However, it only seems to work when I'm going far less than 30 mph; and at that speed, I'll get creamed from the cars/trucks behind me. Most of the time at the Greenway tolls, the gates are down, so a slower speed is a must, but on the main toll plaza by the beltway, slower speeds aren't an option. Oh, well. Looks like I'll be taking the scenic way to work more often. Hello, Pt. of Rocks! BTW, what is the bumper tag option? How does that differ from the regular one? Rob '98 VFR800 > > 4. Of the two types of tags ask for the bumper tag as > > that seems to work best. It will need to be mounted. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 10:56:13 2001 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:49:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Someone should market one of those Gobert-style "finned" helmets with a Smart Tag transponder inside the fin. Rich Coyote, Genius "Rob" wrote... >I've played around with a couple spots on the bike, > but the 'best' success I've had has been in the map > pocket on top of my tank bag. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 11:27:19 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:25:16 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: racers To: DC Cycles List Thought this was humorous. http://geocities.com/ecumike5/sfx/ Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 11:36:04 2001 From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:35:51 EDT Subject: Re: racers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I saw this whole incident unfold from perhaps the best vantage point on the whole track. Since I had wrecked my 400 two days before, I ended up working the crash truck for Saturday and Sunday. When these guys had their little moment, I was sitting in the truck past the fence in the emergency vehicles staging area. I had a perfect vantage point of the track from turn one all the way through Left Hook. (Where this crash took place.) As I recally, 710 made a very nice pass on 202 going through Nascar bend, and 202 tried to stuff 710 on the inside of Left Hook. I remember saying to myself, "he's not going to make that *smack* passohsh!t...." and got ready to drive the truck down there and pick up some bikes. 202 hit the ground first and slid to the outside of the track. 710 managed to keep the bike up until he hit the grass. 202 was up and walking first, and when 710 got up, he went straight for 202. It was rather funny to watch, since neither one could really hurt the other any more than they already were. I believe one of the guys had a dislocated shoulder, too. (Maybe 202?) The funniest part was listening to the woman working that corner on the radio. She would get into a tizzy if she thought she saw a knee-puck on the track, and when this happened, she lost it. Especially when one of the specators hopped the fence and tried to break it up. There's a reason why they call the Novice 600 classes the "Meatgrinder" classes. Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 14:46:04 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 14:44:46 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: racers To: Cc: Yep. Pretty good. Anyone we know? Scooter In a message dated Wed, 2 May 2001 11:32:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dale Horstman writes: << Thought this was humorous. http://geocities.com/ecumike5/sfx/ Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress >> From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 17:21:28 2001 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 17:21:10 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: Sport bike friendly establishments... To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Anyone have any suggestion of restaurants/pubs/bars in the DC/NoVA area where sport riders hang-out on a regular basis? I'm looking for mid-week watering holes to frequent and figure it'd be nicer to hang out with those who want to talking riding... Thanks, -Calvin From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 18:18:30 2001 From: "Ahalan" To: "'Dale Horstman'" , "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: shipping cost Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:18:09 -0700 Dale, The problem with such pieces is their size - above a certain size UPS (and I believe FedEx) charge you a much higher rate. I sent a tall windscreen that I sold and UPS wanted about $40 for sending it, even though it weighed next to nothing. I crossed the street to the US Postal and sent it Priority Mail w/ insurance for $13. Go for it. Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: Dale Horstman [mailto:the.horkster@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:43 AM To: DC Cycles List Subject: shipping cost Some guy wrote: > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can call with info Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but does that sounds kind of high to anyone? I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I don't wanna get screwed on the shipping. Much thanks, Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 19:07:52 2001 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:07:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Tchaka Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Yes it does. Another friend and I use the 'plastic-velcro' inside our windshields and that works fine too. Tchaka > Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 19:27:11 -0400 > From: Larry Meyer > X-Accept-Language: en,pdf > To: DCC > Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again > > The regular Smart Tag works fine in a tank bag. It's > only failed me > once, and I was going 65. > > Larry Meyer > Annandale, VA > 1997 Bandit 1200 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 19:47:43 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 19:46:47 -0400 From: Dale Horstman To: Concours Owners Group , DC Cycles Subject: Re: shipping cost > > Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours > > upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Thanks for all the replies. I went out and played on the Fedex and UPS websites, turns out shipping an oversize box like what would be needed to pack the Concours fairing into is what's driving up the price. Oh, well, I guess it's still a good deal, even with shipping. I'll quit whining now. :) Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 GS850G, '87 Concours - project bikes From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 22:11:22 2001 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:11:09 EDT Subject: WV RT 72 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. Bob From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 22:27:28 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: , Subject: RE: WV RT 72 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:28:35 -0400 Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. A quick look at Map N Go shows it to look fairly twisty, but not all that long. Not as twisty as Deals gap (for as long). Also looks like you're in some National Park territory. But you could then pick up 33, also pretty twisty towards the Brandywine rec area. Follow 33 & it intersects Skyline. Should be an ok ride... HTH. Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 23:02:55 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 23:02:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Andrew Culpepper Subject: Re: WV RT 72 At 10:11 PM 5/2/01 , McKeithen@XXXXXX wrote: >Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and >Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to >check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. I'll be riding around NW NC with a bunch of Ducatistas Friday and Saturday and then checking out Deal's Gap and surrounding areas next Monday and Tuesday. Anyone else planning to be in the area then? The rest of you all, keep your noses to the grindstone :-) From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 23:53:39 2001 From: "James Reazor" To: Subject: Adventure Moto Gear Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:26:13 -0400 I saw a Bagster ( http://www.bagster.com ) on a friends bike a while ago and decided I wanted one. I asked where he got it... England. Great... started looking for mail order web sites and was quoted 6 to 8 weeks for delivery because the product had to come from France. Eventually I found http://www.adventuremotogear.com as it turns out they're a mail order only house but they're located in Springfield. I gave them a call and spoke to Linda. How long? 2 weeks. That was a week and a half ago. I got it today. They also went way out of their way to accommodate me AND dropped the price on one item below what I agreed to pay after looking at their cost with the exchange rate. Needless to say, I highly recommend these guys. Their product line is a bit limited but if they have anything you need, buy with confidence. -James '00 SV650 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 08:42:37 2001 From: Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 08:41:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Adventure Moto Gear To: James Reazor Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 05/03/2001 08:42:36 AM I agree. I have bought all my GiVi bags through them. I first discovered them at the (weak) Baltimore Bike Show a few years ago, and they have been top notch as far as customer service goes. Others I have recommended to them have had similar experiences. --chris James Reazor on 05/02/2001 11:26:13 PM Please respond to James Reazor To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Subject: Adventure Moto Gear I saw a Bagster ( http://www.bagster.com ) on a friends bike a while ago and decided I wanted one. I asked where he got it... England. Great... started looking for mail order web sites and was quoted 6 to 8 weeks for delivery because the product had to come from France. Eventually I found http://www.adventuremotogear.com as it turns out they're a mail order only house but they're located in Springfield. I gave them a call and spoke to Linda. How long? 2 weeks. That was a week and a half ago. I got it today. They also went way out of their way to accommodate me AND dropped the price on one item below what I agreed to pay after looking at their cost with the exchange rate. Needless to say, I highly recommend these guys. Their product line is a bit limited but if they have anything you need, buy with confidence. -James '00 SV650 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 08:57:56 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Horn Problem To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX I am having a horn problem and wonder if anyone could help. Here are the details 1991 VFR All other electricals work fine Higher than recommended headlight bulbs Single Fiamm horn installed about one year ago. Althoug some recommend a relay for this horn, I did not install it (could this be the problem). The horn has worked perfectly for the past year. Here is the problem. The form will sound fine when the bike is running but not being driven (idling). When the engine is moving fast, the horn either emits an slight 'bleep' or does not work at all. Any ideas? Is this due to the lack of the relay switch? Here is the text that recommended the use of a realy. Note: the reason I omitted the relay is beacuse I did not install the larger, double horns that this guy did. "The stock horn is switched directly by the horn switch. The increased current draw of the Fiamms is likely to damage the switch contacts, so a relay must be used. Use an automotive style relay with a current rating of 30 amps or more (try Radio Shack's 275-226, a rather universal one). The horns are not going to actually draw 30 amps of current, but they represent an inductive load (like a motor) so the heavy contacts are important." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:02:46 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Next Bike Night To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Remember, the next Bike Night is Sunday, May 20th at CarPool! Please come on out. Also, can anyone on other Moto Lists please distribute this message? If you are going to do that, please drop me a line so I can remind you again as the event approaches. http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:07:57 2001 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: looking for 93 gixxer 750 parts Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:14:16 -0700 well my lady friend seemed to find a good deal. She got a 93 gixxer 750 for $2500. Of course it needs a little work. the bike is purple/black, 93 gixxer 750. looking for windshield tail fairing center peice gas tank if anyone has an antidraft race tail, maybe that too. Let me know, thanks sorry that guy didn't have any more bikes/deals for those of you looking. Danny thanks! From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:09:45 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Need Help Promoting Bike Nights To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Listers: I need help putting up posters for Bike Night. I have covered the following shops in Virginia: -Powersports -Crossroads -Patriot HD -Fast Lane -Cycle Sport Herndon I need people to put up posters at any other Bike Shops, including -Manassas Honda -Witt HD -Cycle Sport Springfield -The BMW shop down 95S? -Any and ALL shops in Maryland Thanks. If you can help, I will email you a poster that you can put up. Leave them anywhere you see motorcycles. THANKS! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:11:53 2001 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: re: tie downs Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:18:13 -0700 that's why I like to use 2 straps on each side... (front and rear) that's atleast 5 grand worth of value you're hauling around! Danny From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:19:50 2001 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:13:58 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Mark Kitchell CC: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Horn Problem 30 amps!!! That probably puts the horn as the biggest current draw on your bike! Put the relay in and check the horn switch for damage. Make sure the wires from the relay to the horn are FAT suckers. I'm thinking like 10 gauge. Bill Mark Kitchell wrote: > I am having a horn problem and wonder if anyone could > help. Here are the details > > 1991 VFR > All other electricals work fine > Higher than recommended headlight bulbs > Single Fiamm horn installed about one year ago. > Althoug some recommend a relay for this horn, I did > not install it (could this be the problem). > > The horn has worked perfectly for the past year. Here > is the problem. The form will sound fine when the > bike is running but not being driven (idling). When > the engine is moving fast, the horn either emits an > slight 'bleep' or does not work at all. > > Any ideas? Is this due to the lack of the relay > switch? > > Here is the text that recommended the use of a realy. > Note: the reason I omitted the relay is beacuse I did > not install the larger, double horns that this guy > did. > > "The stock horn is switched directly by the horn > switch. The increased current draw of the Fiamms is > likely to damage the switch contacts, so a relay must > be used. Use an automotive style relay with a current > rating of 30 amps or more (try Radio Shack's 275-226, > a rather universal one). The horns are not going to > actually draw 30 amps of current, but they represent > an inductive load (like a motor) so the heavy contacts > are important." > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:21:01 2001 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 08:19:34 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: Aprilia/TPM track day Is anyone from the DC cycles crew attending the track day tomorrow at summit Point? If so come on by, I will be towing a blue R6 with my Silver Honda CRV. I will have a blue tarp set up. According to the Aprilia rep, they will have a Mille, a Falco and a RS 250 to demo. Cheers, George Cole 99 R6 00 VFR From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:29:39 2001 From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Superbike School/Deal's Gap Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:29:25 -0400 I'm going to be taking Keith Code's Superbike school at VIR on May 16th & 17th with a friend. From there we're going down to Deal's Gap for the weekend (18-20th)ish. Is anyone else from this list going to be at the school, or down to Deal's Gap that weekend? If so let me know! Matt Matthew M. Pflieger, MBA, CPA Operations Controller SAIC Information Technology Solutions Group 1710 SAIC Drive MS 1-3-8 McLean, VA 22102 703-676-5013 pfliegerma@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:30:11 2001 From: Gaske David G DLVA To: "'McKeithen@XXXXXX'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: WV RT 72 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:29:54 -0400 First reply since subscribing, so we'll see how it goes..... I spent 7 years of riding this area, 72 was a frequent southward road to get down into the central part of WV. It is a nice stretch of road, but due to Coal trucks and a poor state wanting to spend more money on Corridor H, it is bumpy as hell. Not the kind of road you will want to ride fast, but one worth riding. If you are looking for more turns than the Gap, as well as a steeper drop of. RT 72 between Dryfork (rt. 32) and Parsons is SICK. Once again it is not a knee dragging road, but constant turns the whole length, and if you miss one, its down a few hundred feet into the Dry Fork river HTH, David "Lost Dawg" Gaske '00 Sprint RS (yellow) Fredericksburg, Va. USA www.triumphnet.com -----Original Message----- From: McKeithen@XXXXXX [mailto:McKeithen@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:11 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: WV RT 72 Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. Bob From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:44:05 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Superbike School/Deal's Gap To: "Pflieger, Matthew M." , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" I am going to the school. Does anyone need a roomate (16th only)?? --- "Pflieger, Matthew M." wrote: > I'm going to be taking Keith Code's Superbike school > at VIR on May 16th & > 17th with a friend. From there we're going down to > Deal's Gap for the > weekend (18-20th)ish. Is anyone else from this list > going to be at the > school, or down to Deal's Gap that weekend? If so > let me know! > Matt > > > > Matthew M. Pflieger, MBA, CPA > Operations Controller > SAIC > Information Technology Solutions Group > 1710 SAIC Drive > MS 1-3-8 > McLean, VA 22102 > 703-676-5013 > pfliegerma@XXXXXX > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 10:58:27 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 07:57:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: "Ledford, Calvin" cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Sport bike friendly establishments... Well I go to the Revolution Coffee Lounge in Herndon to watch the races on Tuesdays. It's biker friendly but the atmosphere would be greatly improved if the place was inundated with bikers. There's also a bike night every other thursday in Purciville or Leesburg but I'm not sure of the details. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 11:31:58 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:31:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Superbike School/Deal's Gap To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" wrote: > we're going down to Deal's Gap for the > weekend (18-20th)ish. Is anyone else from this list > going to be at the > school, or down to Deal's Gap that weekend? That's the weekend of the 2d International Ninja 250's at the Gap weekend. It's one of the largest known gatherings of Ninja 250s in the US. Just ask Todd P and Tom G. They got caught up in the traffic jam at Townsend. There must have been nearly 10 Ninja 250s there. Some of them are almost as fast as a motorhome. :-) Leon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 13:10:27 2001 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:10:15 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need Help Promoting Bike Nights To: Cc: In a message dated Thu, 3 May 2001 9:10:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Mark Kitchell writes: << Listers: I need help putting up posters for Bike Night. I have covered the following shops in Virginia: -Powersports -Crossroads -Patriot HD -Fast Lane -Cycle Sport Herndon I need people to put up posters at any other Bike Shops, including -Manassas Honda -Witt HD -Cycle Sport Springfield -The BMW shop down 95S? -Any and ALL shops in Maryland Thanks. If you can help, I will email you a poster that you can put up. Leave them anywhere you see motorcycles. THANKS! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 13:13:29 2001 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:13:08 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need Help Promoting Bike Nights To: Cc: Sorry 'bout that. Too quick on the trigger finger with that send button. :-) What I was going to say was, Cycle Sport Springfield is now Cycle Sport Alexandria. They've moved. I think they're having their Grand Opening this weekend too. Sorry I can't put up posters for you. Just thought I'd pass on the info. Scooter In a message dated Thu, 3 May 2001 9:10:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Mark Kitchell writes: << Listers: I need help putting up posters for Bike Night. I have covered the following shops in Virginia: -Powersports -Crossroads -Patriot HD -Fast Lane -Cycle Sport Herndon I need people to put up posters at any other Bike Shops, including -Manassas Honda -Witt HD -Cycle Sport Springfield -The BMW shop down 95S? -Any and ALL shops in Maryland Thanks. If you can help, I will email you a poster that you can put up. Leave them anywhere you see motorcycles. THANKS! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 13:13:59 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Sport bike friendly establishments... To: twg@XXXXXX, cledford@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hugh Caldwell wrote... "There's also a bike night every other thursday in Purciville or Leesburg but I'm not sure of the details." Last time we went to the White Palace in Purcellville, all the bar tables were taken so we had to eat in the Restaurant with the *gasp* civilians (and they started charging for every coke, instead of the usual bottomless glass arrangement). There was no parking, yada, yada... Definitely not as fun as it usually is. So on the 26th we had our thing in Leesburg at the venue formerly known as Payne's. It's under new management now, and they're calling it The Downtown... Pub or something. Anyway, the new management has fixed the place up, and it was nice. The food was arguably not as good and greasy as the White Palace, but still palatable. They let us drag all the tables around till we were happy, and they let us pile up our helmets and stuff on a side bar. I thought they treated us pretty well. Bike count was about 15, including two Payne's holdovers. The next meeting of the Northern Virginia Wandering Bikers will also be held at Payne's (or whatever it's called now) in Leesburg on the 10th of May. The usual times are 6:00pm ~ 9:30. A certain Mr. Norton (who rides a Honda) was there last time. What did you think, Bruce? Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 13:43:33 2001 From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Sport bike friendly establishments... Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:44:15 -0400 To anyone who has lived in or near Leesburg for a while, this place will always be referred to as 'Payne's Biker Bar'. No matter how many times they change the name. CJ and I both enjoyed it. The on-street parking was full by the time we got there. Did you notice that the car parked in the yellow zone out front was the bartender? Next time I'll park right behind him. Hope to get more locals there next time. More sportbikes! Bruce (one day I'll have a) Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scratch" > The next meeting of the Northern Virginia Wandering > Bikers will also be held at Payne's (or whatever it's > called now) in Leesburg on the 10th of May. The usual > times are 6:00pm ~ 9:30. > > A certain Mr. Norton (who rides a Honda) was there > last time. What did you think, Bruce? > > Rich From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 14:21:12 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:21:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Sport bike friendly establishments... To: DCC > The next meeting of the Northern Virginia Wandering > Bikers will also be held at Payne's (or whatever it's > called now) in Leesburg on the 10th of May. The usual > times are 6:00pm ~ 9:30. For the record, I just made that name up. :) Also, any brand of bike is welcome. Some of us ride Olde Brit bikes, and there is a sizable BMW contingent. But occasionally some *really* cool bikes show up. I have seen a guy ride up on his original Indian Chief, another a Vincent Rapide, and there was once a new MV Agusta there. CU, Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 14:55:59 2001 From: "Vas Majer" To: Subject: Moto Camp Night in Blue Grass, VA Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:55:36 -0400 Greetings. I'm sure those of you who've ridden the mountain highlands of western Virginia will affirm for those of you that haven't what unsurpassed motorcyling roads you'll find in Highland and Bath counties of VA, and Pochohantas county of WV. Here's a great way to re-visit or visit for the first time this superb motorcycling area this June: Motorcycle Camp Night in the Blue Grass Valley, [http://personal.cfw.com/~bookbank/] complete with live bluegrass music and a hot dog supper. Proceeds to benefit a children's library. You can't go wrong on this one. Give it a look. Vas Majer From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 15:27:16 2001 From: "Ahalan" To: "'James Reazor'" , Subject: RE: Adventure Moto Gear Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:26:21 -0700 I looked at the bagster saddle bags and they look quite appealing. I've sent an email to adventuremotogear for more information. Thanks for the info. Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: James Reazor [mailto:JReazor@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 8:26 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Adventure Moto Gear I saw a Bagster ( http://www.bagster.com ) on a friends bike a while ago and decided I wanted one. I asked where he got it... England. Great... started looking for mail order web sites and was quoted 6 to 8 weeks for delivery because the product had to come from France. Eventually I found http://www.adventuremotogear.com as it turns out they're a mail order only house but they're located in Springfield. I gave them a call and spoke to Linda. How long? 2 weeks. That was a week and a half ago. I got it today. They also went way out of their way to accommodate me AND dropped the price on one item below what I agreed to pay after looking at their cost with the exchange rate. Needless to say, I highly recommend these guys. Their product line is a bit limited but if they have anything you need, buy with confidence. -James '00 SV650 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 20:45:36 2001 From: "David Thompson" To: Subject: Re: WV RT 72 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:47:53 -0400 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:11:09 EDT Subject: WV RT 72 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I rode it ~ 6 years ago. It's twisty all right, also narrow (like one lane in some areas) & pavement had lots of loose stones in the tight turns. I was on a Concours at the time & remember a lot of 2nd & 3rd gear riding. It was also uncommonly pretty & I'd ride it again, but I wouldn't call it the ideal sportbike road. If you're riding in WV, check out the WV page at the North American Sportbike Road Registry. There's plenty of "rider rated" roads listed. http://www.execpc.com/~ytk/ David "RoutemeiSTer" Thompson Dthomps1@XXXXXX http://home.rochester.rr.com/backroads/ Rochester NY Age 62 Retired Xeroid AMA# 504560 STOC# 840 Current STable 90 Suzuki DR350S 91 Honda Silver ST1100 94 Honda VFR From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 23:23:47 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:23:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: Injury Fund E-News: May '01 To: IF News APRIL Recap: -Pit Bull joined the TSR campaign by pledging a Forklift front stand, and one of their newly released SS Rear stands. It works with both spooled and standard swingarms. Both retail for $140, and will be given away to one of our lucky ticket holders! -TSR kicked off it's racing season by attending the CCS event at VA Int'l Raceway in Danville, VA, and the WERA event at Summit Point Raceway in Summit Point, WV. At VIR, Steve met with two mechanical DNF's in GT Lights and LW Superbike, but did manage a 4th place finish in the LW SS race. At Summit, he continued to run upfront by taking the holeshot at the start of the LW Solo, but promptly crashed into the T1 peagravel. Determined to finish in the money, he took chase and still finished 5th. In Formula 2 and LW Twins he, again and again, took 4th place finishes. -Our Upcoming Events: June 9th - CCS - Carolina Motorsports Park June 15th - WERA VIR Cycle JAM! June 23rd - WERA Carolina Motorsports Park -During the rider's meetings, each attendee received a raffle flyer. Throughout each day, we also visited folks in their pits, talked to them about the injury fund, and sold raffle tickets and T-shirts. Thanks to everyone that made a donation! -We would like to express our congratulations to John Ulrich, of Roadracing World, for spearheading a very successful campaign to raise money for the purchase and deployment of airfence sections. We were also very happy to hear that the fences would not only be available for the AMA, but for club-level organizations as well. We feel that this is a very worthy cause, and look forward to the benefits that this new level of safety will bring to the sport. Please visit http://www.RoadRacingWorld.com for all of the details. --- May is here, and there are only 6 weeks remaining until the $5000 raffle drawing! We've sold 125 of the 500 available tickets, so crunch time is here. Your contributions are needed to make the Injury Fund a continued success, so please take a moment to send your contribution today. Contribution incentives: $10 - One Sudco or Galfer Brakes T-Shirt $25 - One Raffle Ticket $50 - Two Raffle Tickets, and a T-Shirt! With any donation, we will add your URL to our Injury Fund Supporters web page. 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Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 06:34:15 2001 From: Scot Kight To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 06:25:01 -0400 unsubscribe From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 08:28:45 2001 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:26:20 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: anyone we know ? Last night, channel 4 opened the 11 o'clock news with a tidbit something like: A VA state trooper is in the hospital tonight... 3 motorcyclists were spotted by a Fairfax Co. cop... "riding close together"... HE later said they were riding recklessly - on route 236. A chase ensued... VA state police took over ... biker clocked at 135 mph on the beltway Near the springfield interchange, the VA trooper had a single car accident taking a ramp too fast. Bikers got away, last seen crossing the Wilson Bridge. Riding close together... hmm... Dave -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 08:54:30 2001 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 08:48:38 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: sdave@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: anyone we know ? sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > Last night, channel 4 opened the 11 o'clock news with a tidbit > something like: > > A VA state trooper is in the hospital tonight... 3 motorcyclists > were spotted by a Fairfax Co. cop... "riding close together"... HE > later said they were riding recklessly - on route 236. A chase > ensued... VA state police took over ... biker clocked at 135 mph on > the beltway Near the > springfield interchange, the VA trooper had a single car accident > taking a ramp too fast. Bikers got away, last seen crossing the > Wilson Bridge. > > Riding close together... hmm... > > Dave Not me! I don't ride in packs, and a ride a FLH Hawg (FIVE speed). Ain't no way that heavy chugger would hit 135 unless I fed it nitrious and grew really big balls. FLHs are comfy to about 85 and then they get a bit twitchy. Yep, tis squidly season. Last night while snuggling with my Missus I could hear the howl of the sportbikes and smell the testostrone in the air. Oh, wait that scent might have been from me. Snuggling will do that to a guy :-) Bill From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 08:59:09 2001 From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: More older riders crashing Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:00:10 -0400 http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/05/04/older.injuries/index.html Read and discuss! Bruce From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 09:04:28 2001 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:04:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" To: dccycles Subject: Aprilia Crash! Jay and I rec'd a call at about 10:45 last night. Jimmy Itabashi wanted to borrow our trailer. We told him that the trailer was currently hitched to our truck and loaded with Jay's Monster for the track day today at Summit Point. Turns out that Jimmy was in the path of a woman making a left turn in Georgetown! He is fine, most likely a broken collar bone. Jay and I picked up the bike and took it to our house while some friends took Jimmy to the hospital. The bike appears to have mostly cosmetic damage. Jimmy seemed uncomfortable but otherwise fine, it is not the first time he has broken his collarbone. Watch out folks, drivers aren't looking for us nor do they care!! Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 09:10:40 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: anyone we know ? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:09:17 -0400 If it is anyone from the list, I advise you to remain silent! -----Original Message----- From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:26 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: anyone we know ? Last night, channel 4 opened the 11 o'clock news with a tidbit something like: A VA state trooper is in the hospital tonight... 3 motorcyclists were spotted by a Fairfax Co. cop... "riding close together"... HE later said they were riding recklessly - on route 236. A chase ensued... VA state police took over ... biker clocked at 135 mph on the beltway Near the springfield interchange, the VA trooper had a single car accident taking a ramp too fast. Bikers got away, last seen crossing the Wilson Bridge. Riding close together... hmm... Dave -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 09:30:37 2001 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:19:42 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Rapp Subject: Re: Aprilia Crash! Glad to hear the injuries aren't too serious. The report reminds me of a friend who lost a relative due to a similar accident 3-4 years ago. The driver sited that the evening sun prevented her from seeing the 2-up H-D. Take Care. Bob '97 VFR (4-sale) '89 Hawk GT At 09:04 AM 5/4/01 -0400, lisa@XXXXXX wrote: >Jay and I rec'd a call at about 10:45 last night. Jimmy Itabashi wanted >to borrow our trailer. We told him that the trailer was currently hitched >to our truck and loaded with Jay's Monster for the track day today at >Summit Point. > >Turns out that Jimmy was in the path of a woman making a left turn in >Georgetown! He is fine, most likely a broken collar bone. Jay and I >picked up the bike and took it to our house while some friends took Jimmy >to the hospital. The bike appears to have mostly cosmetic damage. Jimmy >seemed uncomfortable but otherwise fine, it is not the first time he has >broken his collarbone. > >Watch out folks, drivers aren't looking for us nor do they care!! > >Lisa >'95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 09:56:59 2001 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 06:56:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: More older riders crashing To: Bruce Norton , DC Cycles --- Bruce Norton wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/05/04/older.injuries/index.html > > Read and discuss! RUBs ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 10:13:45 2001 From: eschelzig@XXXXXX To: t_gimer@XXXXXX, bnorton@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: More older riders crashing Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:10:07 -0400 Funny, didn't we read this in the Los Angeles Times a couple of weeks ago? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Gimer [mailto:t_gimer@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:57 AM To: Bruce Norton; DC Cycles Subject: Re: More older riders crashing --- Bruce Norton wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/05/04/older.injuries/index.html > > Read and discuss! RUBs ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 10:17:16 2001 Subject: Re: Aprilia Crash! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:56:43 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/04/2001 09:57:04 AM I want to thank Jay and Lisa Goddard very much for your help in this situ. I am deeply indebted to you two and it is nice to know I have friends that will bend over backwards to help me out. I just hope that I do not have to return the same favor to you....=) but you know I will if it does happen. If you want to read about the accident in more deatail here is a post I did. http://www.sportbikes.ws/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=712 James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:05:10 2001 From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'jitabashi@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Aprilia Crash! Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:04:54 -0400 You told her $3-4 grand? I hope that was for the bike alone and not the bike AND your shoulder! Wait till those Dr. bills start rolling in. I know you're busted up right now, but you'll need to give some more thought the the legalities of circumventing the insurance companies. Personally I think insurance companies are somewhere just below the contents at the bottom of porta-johns, so don't think I'm cheering for them, but if you've got a loan on your bike (maybe you don't) there may be a requirement, your health insurance company might start asking questions, and most importantly you don't want to end up losing any rights you have. I'm not a litigious person, and I'm not saying to sue her ass off (although every time someone cuts me off like that on my bike & almost causes an accident, I slide a little further toward that position) but I would suggest you at least take advantage of a free first session with a lawyer to make sure you don't end up screwing yourself by trying to be reasonable with her. What if there ends up being permanent damage to you? What if you end up needing months of therapy? Just be careful dude, again I'm not saying you should try to get rich, but don't let her off the hook either. That's just my .02. Big ups to the people that came & helped you. That's what true friends are made of. Get well soon. Matt -----Original Message----- From: jitabashi@XXXXXX [mailto:jitabashi@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:57 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Aprilia Crash! I want to thank Jay and Lisa Goddard very much for your help in this situ. I am deeply indebted to you two and it is nice to know I have friends that will bend over backwards to help me out. I just hope that I do not have to return the same favor to you....=) but you know I will if it does happen. If you want to read about the accident in more deatail here is a post I did. http://www.sportbikes.ws/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=712 James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:12:57 2001 From: "Han Park" To: Subject: Harbor Freight Tire Changer Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:12:31 -0400 Has anyone used the Harbor Freight tire changer? I remember there was some talk about people ordering it a while ago but there was no follow up. han From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:16:06 2001 From: Cedric Bernescut To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Aprilia Crash! Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:15:34 -0400 James: Hope you heal quickly. Sorry about your accident. Where in Georgetown did it happen? I'm at 30th & M and many days my commute would be assisted by an RPG. Kudo's to Jay and Lisa for helping out. Cedric Bernescut "Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding, 'you're making a scene.'" Homer Simpson I want to thank Jay and Lisa Goddard very much for your help in this situ. I am deeply indebted to you two and it is nice to know I have friends that will bend over backwards to help me out. I just hope that I do not have to return the same favor to you....=) but you know I will if it does happen. If you want to read about the accident in more deatail here is a post I did. http://www.sportbikes.ws/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=712 James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:21:15 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "Han Park" , Subject: RE: Harbor Freight Tire Changer Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:19:49 -0400 Never got the "Motorcycle" portion and returned the rest. Gary Foreman (TL Owners Club) mailto:gary@XXXXXX http://www.tl1000.com -----Original Message----- From: Han Park [mailto:hpark@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:13 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Harbor Freight Tire Changer Has anyone used the Harbor Freight tire changer? I remember there was some talk about people ordering it a while ago but there was no follow up. han From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:30:01 2001 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:29:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitri Pappa Subject: AMA meets WWF To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sorry if this has already been posted: http://geocities.com/ecumike5/sfx/ Dmitri __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:38:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44FcTU01718 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f44FcOT08246; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:38:24 -0400 From: Brian Roach Reply-To: roach@XXXXXX To: Dmitri Pappa , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: AMA meets WWF Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:38:24 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <20010504152958.21670.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010504152958.21670.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0105041138240A.02231@www.mostlyharmless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 04 May 2001, Dmitri Pappa wrote: > Sorry if this has already been posted: > > http://geocities.com/ecumike5/sfx/ This is not the AMA... this is a CCS weekend at VIR we were at about a month ago. Still funny as hell though :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:39:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from franklin.uscourts.gov (franklin.uscourts.gov [207.41.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44FddU01731 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange2.cafc.dcn ([156.132.100.5]) by franklin.uscourts.gov (8.11.0/10.11.0) with ESMTP id f44FdWg28168 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange2.cafc.dcn with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:39:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Demello, Jill" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Kawasaki Parts Online? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:39:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Does anyone know where I can order Kawasaki parts online or via mail order? Many thanks. Jill D From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:41:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web511.mail.yahoo.com (web511.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.226]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44Ff9U01751 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010504154107.21697.qmail@web511.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.9.247.2] by web511.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 04 May 2001 08:41:07 PDT Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:41:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Aprilia Crash! To: "lisa@XXXXXX" , dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "lisa@XXXXXX" wrote: > > Jay and I rec'd a call at about 10:45 last night. Jimmy > Itabashi wanted to borrow our trailer. We told him that > the trailer was currently hitched to our truck and loaded > with Jay's Monster for the track day today at Summit > Point. > > Turns out that Jimmy was in the path of a woman making a > left turn in Georgetown! sounds exactly like my "incident" in spring '96....heading south on wisconsin ave into georgetown; elderly motorist turns left across two lanes of traffic without looking; impact occurs at my left leg; i go airborne and '93 cbr900rr (rip) goes horizontal onto the right curb. damage: broken foot, torn ligaments, separated shoulder, cuts, bruises, PAIN! $7k in property damage $15k in pain and suffering pain is good it's good to hear that james is ok ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yaho