From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 00:06:40 2001 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:06:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Splat! To: DCCycles It's probably not the answer you want to hear, but . . . a BIG windshield that's far enough forward to get the air blast over your helmet, yet low enough to just see over. It will blow the little ones up and over the helmet, the really big heavy ones (eg the aforementioned cicadas) will still slam into the face shield. Leon. ZX6 pseudoConnie Ninja 250s John Deere and Turtle Turtle seems to think I like bugs, no large windscreen. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 02:34:19 2001 From: "Ahalan" To: "dc-cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 02:32:57 -0700 Posted on: http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst?.dir=/MC&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.d one=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst%3f.dir=/MC%26.src=ph%26.view= t I posted just about every picture I developed up there so they're not all good - and darnit I need a stronger telephoto lens on my Canon (eh...don't go there). Roach definitely got the lion's share of attention - if you want your picture taken that often you need to supply this (sorry excuse for a) photographer with an even better grill and beer - didn't think you could... Laura - put some of these up in the DC-Cycles web page ? Niv BMW F650ST Canon Elan II w/ 28-135mm zoom (w/ electronic stabilizer). From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 06:42:55 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: "'James Reazor'" , Subject: RE: Splat!!! Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:44:40 -0400 Ever catch a cicada in the face shield? Yup. Talk about your obstructed views. Of course I'm not entirely sure it was a cicada but I can't think of any other flying insects in Del that would make a thick gooey splat that big. Covered the face shield top to bottom and about the center 1/3 left to right. Yet another reason to wear a full face lid. Agreed. I had one hit my helmet and splattered over my whole field of vision. That one I had to lift the shield & stop for.. Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 08:18:53 2001 From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:18:38 EDT Subject: Re: Splat!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --part1_ff.5ba7e81.2820039e_boundary All I can say is if you haven't ridden during Love-Bug season in Florida you don't know Splat. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer --part1_ff.5ba7e81.2820039e_boundary All I can say is if you haven't ridden during Love-Bug season in Florida you
don't know Splat.

John Walters (Long John)
PenguinBiker@XXXXXX
Up near DC

Honda ST1100X Pan European
   (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.)
BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles
Honda 1976 CR250M  Motowhat racer --part1_ff.5ba7e81.2820039e_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 08:29:42 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 05:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: RE: Splat!!! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I steal wet naps from restaurants and keep them in my jacket pockets. They're great for cleaning your hands and visor. --- Dave Yates wrote: > > S100 wax on the shield, and keep a rag & some > water with you. Rag should > be cotton, like a cloth diaper, so as not to scratch > the shield. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 08:38:43 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 05:38:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Belstaff Boots a-crackin' To: Matthew Patton , DCC I've had a pair of Doc Martin leather boots for about 4 years, and they can be made to look almost new with some soap and polish. These Belstaff boots are cracking like that guy from the X-files Sunday. It looks like someone (aliens, perhaps?) made a million little X-Acto knife cuts where the boots bend. Definitely not normal cracking. A guy in the Norton club has a pair of these boots, and he said he's had them for a few years. They look about the same as mine as far as the severity of cracking, so maybe it won't get any worse. I just wonder about their ability to repel water now. Rich --- Matthew Patton wrote: > they're leather boots. They 'crack'. why wouldn't > they? doesn't your skin? > -- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 09:03:50 2001 From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Matthew Rosenstock'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:01:29 -0400 When you clean off the bugs, be very gentle. Remember that the exoskeletons of those guys crunch up into little pieces to become a very effective abrasive not unlike sandpaper. Best to apply some luke-water first and try to help them to quietly slide off before doing the residue removal. Saul Goldberg Gaithersburg MD '89 pearl PC800 -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:30 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Splat!!! I steal wet naps from restaurants and keep them in my jacket pockets. They're great for cleaning your hands and visor. --- Dave Yates wrote: > > S100 wax on the shield, and keep a rag & some > water with you. Rag should > be cotton, like a cloth diaper, so as not to scratch > the shield. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 09:18:53 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Belstaff Boots a-crackin' To: Scratch , Matthew Patton , DCC --- Scratch wrote: > I've had a pair of Doc Martin leather boots for about > 4 years, and they can be made to look almost new with > some soap and polish. These Belstaff boots are > cracking like that guy from the X-files Sunday. It > looks like someone (aliens, perhaps?) made a million > little X-Acto knife cuts where the boots bend. > Definitely not normal cracking. > > A guy in the Norton club has a pair of these boots, > and he said he's had them for a few years. They look > about the same as mine as far as the severity of > cracking, so maybe it won't get any worse. I just > wonder about their ability to repel water now. i've got a pair of bellstaffs, but they ain't leather. yet, what you have described is happening to mine as well. they may not hold the water out very well, but they do a fine job of holding it in once it gets there. ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 09:47:39 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:45:50 -0400 From: "Steven C. Di Pietro" To: "D.C.Cycles-L" Subject: Re: Splat!!! > > > I carry a wee little can of Plexus and a lens cloth. That stuff works > wonders. > > -James And I carry a small bottle of "Lens Cleaner" from the Vision Center at Wal-Mart. Buy it once, and you get free refills. Can't beat that. Steven C. Di Pietro Assistant National Director National Marketing Coordinator Suzuki Owners Club USA http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:20:15 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:18:29 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Splat!!! To: Suzookus Maximus Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Suzookus Maximus wrote: > Short of getting one of those > helmets that accepts tears offs or stopping frequently > to wipe off the bugs (glove wiping usually just smears > bug guts!) are there any suggestions? Ride farther, ride faster, kill more??? see my sig. :) Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:21:38 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 07:21:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again To: DCC This is what Smart Tag had to say in response to my questions. Thay kant spel. From:Smart-Tag Re: Motorcycle version? Four things you need to know 1. We do not have a different unit for motorcycles 2. We do not garentee that it will work 3. There is no lower rate for motorcycles 4. Of the two types of tags ask for the bumper tag as that seems to work best. It will need to be mounted. At 09:50 AM 04/30/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Is there a different smart-tag unit for motorcycles? > >Is there a lower rate? > >Do I have to mount it in the open, of can I keep it in >my pocket? > >Thanks, > >Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:24:18 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:23:06 -0400 To: "D.C.Cycles-L" From: John West Subject: Re: Splat!!! I stole a jar of monitor cleaning wipes from work. They work really well and have some kind of coating action that make it easier to clean the goop next time. Problem with them is that they dry out really quickly, so it's better to keep them at home than try to carry them. I think they come in individual packets too. -john At 9:45 AM -0400 5/1/01, Steven C. Di Pietro wrote: > > > > > > I carry a wee little can of Plexus and a lens cloth. That stuff works > > wonders. > > > > -James > > And I carry a small bottle of "Lens Cleaner" from the Vision Center at >Wal-Mart. Buy it once, and you get free refills. Can't beat that. > > >Steven C. Di Pietro >Assistant National Director >National Marketing Coordinator >Suzuki Owners Club USA >http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:39:46 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:36:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) --============_-1223394724==_ma============ >Posted on: > >http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst?.dir=/MC&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.d >one=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst%3f.dir=/MC%26.src=ph%26.view= >t If you look at the picture entitled "2-Down by H20" (top row, second from the left), you can see a rather robust and manly corner worker dashing to the aid of the fallen rider...oh waitaminute....that's me! Nice shot, Niv! Oh yeah, Randy's in there somewhere too....he's the sickly, feminine looking fellow in the funny hat. -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html --============_-1223394724==_ma============ Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (Apri
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If you look at the picture entitled "2-Down by H20" (top row, second from the left), you can see a rather robust and manly corner worker dashing to the aid of the fallen rider...oh waitaminute....that's me! Nice shot, Niv! Oh yeah, Randy's in there somewhere too....he's the sickly, feminine looking fellow in the funny hat.




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"For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it."

-Ernest Becker (1924-1974)

Sean Jordan
Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing
'93 Honda CBR1000F (Street)
'90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race)
WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038
http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html
--============_-1223394724==_ma============-- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:47:56 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 07:47:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!! On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Suzookus Maximus wrote: > Seems like it is bug season in Loudoun county. I went > bug guts!) are there any suggestions? > Ride with your visor open. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:51:35 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 10:51:04 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again I've always jammed the regular window mounted one up under my windscreen. If you don't have a windscreen, I don't know what to tell you. Strong velcro on top of the headlight housing, maybe? -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 10:59:02 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:55:28 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) To: Sean Jordan Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sean Jordan wrote: > > > Posted on: > > > > http://y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst?.dir=/MC&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.d > > > one=http%3a//y42.photos.yahoo.com/bc/rydin/lst%3f.dir=/MC%26.src=ph%26.view= > > t > > If you look at the picture entitled "2-Down by H20" (top row, second from > the left), you can see a rather robust and manly corner worker dashing to > the aid of the fallen rider...oh waitaminute....that's me! Nice shot, > Niv! Oh yeah, Randy's in there somewhere too....he's the sickly, feminine > looking fellow in the funny hat. > > -- > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:06:04 2001 From: Boiade@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:05:34 EDT Subject: Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) To: sean.jordan@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In the "Vintage" photo that's me in pole position on the 350 in the Formula 500 race. You can see the 66 of the 669. Finished 5th, I guess I went backwards!!! Wish you had taken a pic of me on the 250 in the Vintage 2 race where I started way back and finished 3rd. Less embarassing. On the other hand people tend to take pictures of the front row at the start. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:07:34 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:07:05 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Happy Birthday Randy! Let's all wish fellow lister Randy Moran a great big Happy Birthday, and tease him mercilessly in celebration! -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:12:20 2001 From: "Smith, Steven" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Happy IWD! Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:13:59 -0400 Let me be the first to wish everyone a very happy International Workers Day! Remember, we haven't given up on our goal of world domination, we just changed the logo on the door. Have a lovely day of self-loathing! Your friend (Not!), Captain T.I.A. Greenhouse "Workers of the world untie! You have nothing to loosen but your shoes!" G. Marx From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:29:11 2001 From: "Matthew Patton" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:29:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:34:50 2001 From: eschelzig@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Summit Point Motels Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:30:23 -0400 Sorry if this has been covered, but I'm heading out to Summit Point raceway next week, and need to spend the night somewhere cheap from Monday onto Tuesday. Any suggestions? Thanks, Erik 01 KLR650 From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 11:50:40 2001 From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Matthew Patton'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:48:16 -0400 Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. For getting done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) roads are best left to government. Furthermore, private industry has never been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other things, roads and other transportation expenses. There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:07:07 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:05:20 -0400 So Saul, how long have you worked for the IRS? :-) -----Original Message----- From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:48 AM To: 'Matthew Patton'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. For getting done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) roads are best left to government. Furthermore, private industry has never been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other things, roads and other transportation expenses. There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:12:19 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:12:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread To: "Goldberg, Saul" , "'Matthew Patton'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX If there is one place Mr. Patton lives, that is a fantasy world. --- "Goldberg, Saul" wrote: > Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY > government can do > effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. > For getting > done, government is by far the best bargain. > Wremember that when an > enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone > is making money off of > the enterprise without actually contributing to the > end product itself. That > is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal > interest to us) roads are > best left to government. Furthermore, private > industry has never been, and > nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in > regulating itself so that > it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, > the consumers of the > product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us > from some of the > wayward activities of businesses is something that > government does for us in > exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some > taxes. > > If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote > early, vote often, and > vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. > You "vote" every time > you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is > finding itself in a > helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car > tax that was essential to > the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find > money for, among other > things, roads and other transportation expenses. > > There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone > who thinks that things > will be fine without the expense of dollars and > effort to make them so is > living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Happy IWD! > > > hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do > something about the scum > sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and > Richmond who think they > are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they > earn it for once. > -- > > > "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, > they should have voted to convict." > > > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com > > > Powered by Outblaze __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:28:55 2001 From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Gary Foreman'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:26:34 -0400 Long enough to need a vacation. Now about your account... Yes, I know it sounded like a free commercial plug for them. But my main point is that everything worth doing has some costs attached to it. Want a meal? You need to either go somewhere and put down money, or prepare it from materials on hand. Want to see a movie, go snowboarding, or even get laid? All of these require some work and some money. We might think about why we willingly accept some costs but adamantly insist that others are excessive or unnecessary. Or is this discussion more for that post ride tavern stop, assuming I am still welcome? -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:05 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread So Saul, how long have you worked for the IRS? :-) -----Original Message----- From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:48 AM To: 'Matthew Patton'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. For getting done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) roads are best left to government. Furthermore, private industry has never been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other things, roads and other transportation expenses. There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:40:45 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:39:25 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!! To: Cc: Just get one of the smaller containers. ;-) They're about the size of a bar of soap. Scooter In a message dated Tue, 1 May 2001 10:29:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, John West writes: << I stole a jar of monitor cleaning wipes from work. They work really well and have some kind of coating action that make it easier to clean the goop next time. Problem with them is that they dry out really quickly, so it's better to keep them at home than try to carry them. I think they come in individual packets too. -john At 9:45 AM -0400 5/1/01, Steven C. Di Pietro wrote: > > > > > > I carry a wee little can of Plexus and a lens cloth. That stuff works > > wonders. > > > > -James > > And I carry a small bottle of "Lens Cleaner" from the Vision Center at >Wal-Mart. Buy it once, and you get free refills. Can't beat that. > > >Steven C. Di Pietro >Assistant National Director >National Marketing Coordinator >Suzuki Owners Club USA >http://www.soc-usa.org >> From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 12:43:17 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:42:01 -0400 Hey, I'm a Govie. I do have issues with that damn car tax. Just raise the sales tax or something that doesn't suck my entire bank account once a year. Spread it out a little! Now if that money ONLY went to highways and such I can see a car tax. But that's not the case, and I get penalized for owning a lot of cars and someone who has one car and 6 kids in the public schools is paying little....hey damn it now you got me on my soapbox :-) Nice evening for bike ride. Time to clear my head! (no comments about my head already being clear needed) Gary -----Original Message----- From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:27 PM To: 'Gary Foreman'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Long enough to need a vacation. Now about your account... Yes, I know it sounded like a free commercial plug for them. But my main point is that everything worth doing has some costs attached to it. Want a meal? You need to either go somewhere and put down money, or prepare it from materials on hand. Want to see a movie, go snowboarding, or even get laid? All of these require some work and some money. We might think about why we willingly accept some costs but adamantly insist that others are excessive or unnecessary. Or is this discussion more for that post ride tavern stop, assuming I am still welcome? -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 12:05 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread So Saul, how long have you worked for the IRS? :-) -----Original Message----- From: Goldberg, Saul [mailto:sgoldber@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:48 AM To: 'Matthew Patton'; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do effectively and efficiently, not to mention fairly. For getting done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) roads are best left to government. Furthermore, private industry has never been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time you open your wallet.) Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other things, roads and other transportation expenses. There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Patton [mailto:pattonme@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:29 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 13:29:31 2001 From: Brian Roach To: "Goldberg, Saul" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:29:23 -0400 On Tue, 01 May 2001, Goldberg, Saul wrote: > Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do > effectively and efficiently, Yes, like waste millions of dollars in taxpayers money with no accountability. Ask them for a detailed report on where the money actually goes sometime. > not to mention fairly. You're right there... I'm quite sure they're equal opportunity wasters of our money. > For getting > done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an > enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of > the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. Incorrect. The person making money LIKES making money, and wants to keep doing so. This is what drives private business - producing and selling a product. If people are unsatisfied with the product, they buy something else and the company losees money/goes under. (Unless, of course, you're microsoft or another monopoly). You are having this discussion because the internet was taken over by private enterprise years ago. > That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) > roads are best left to government. Prisons: Being farmed out to private enterprise due to government ineptitude. Schools: Ranked damn near last in comparison to other Western Countries. Roads: Debatable. I've seen some pretty nice neighborhoods around here maintained by the HOAs, but I'll give you this one... the Beltway is usually in pretty good shape and we have an extensive road infastructure here in the US. I guess one outa three ain't bad : / > Furthermore, private industry has never > been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating > itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the > consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from > some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government > does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. Um... where do the billions of dollars in taxes paid by those businesses go? > If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and > vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time > you open your wallet.) Bush... Gore .... Bush ... Gore ... anyone got a coin? The same system keeps others from getting equal funding and airtime by presenting a chicken/egg challange - to get funding and airtime you need 5% of the popular vote... without funding and airtime you're not going to get 5% of the popular vote. Bush promised a tax cut... that prob swayed a few people (635? :) ) > Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a > helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to > the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other > things, roads and other transportation expenses. You'll notice that the ONLY thing they talk about cutting from losing this "essential" tax is schools and social services (police, fire, etc). WTF?? As Gary said, raise the state sales tax to 5%. Or how about... cut things other than schools and social services... but see, that'd cut into the kickbacks our duly elected officials are getting for protecting special and business interests. And WHY is the car tax so "essential" when other states seem to be able to get by just fine without it? (MD, as an example). Hire an accountant, stop screwing us every year for being able to own a decent vehicle. > There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things > will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is > living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. Anyone who thinks the government is anything other than badly managed and bloated needs to take a business or economics course. If you ran a private business in such a manner it would have been out of business as quickly as it started. VA is one of the highest taxed states in the country, and I'll be glad once I'm out of it. And The fed gov't seems to be figuring out how to give us a break as well.. because people are tired of getting very little for the high taxes they pay. I wouldn't mind paying taxes if I actually saw the money going to good use. But if you research the examples you gave alone as things the gov't does "well", you'd find that the US is FAR behind the rest of the world in those areas. That, I find unacceptable, especially given the size of our business and private tax base. :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 13:57:13 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:54:52 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Roach fanned the flames: > On Tue, 01 May 2001, Goldberg, Saul wrote: > > Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do > > effectively and efficiently, > > Yes, like waste millions of dollars in taxpayers money with no > accountability. Ask them for a detailed report on where the money actually > goes sometime. You *can* get the bulk of the info through FOIA requests, but it's very difficult to do. Like the US park police budget ; something like a million for new equipment, but not specific on how much going to the latest fancy, shmancy radar guns. MOST of the money goes to reps & senators that only work 2 or 3 days a week about 6 weeks a year, yet they get paid 3 times the average salary... If it was truly about savings, then all the elected officials would elect for a pay cut.... SHYEAH. ... > Incorrect. The person making money LIKES making money, and wants to keep > doing so. This is what drives private business - producing and selling a > product. If people are unsatisfied with the product, they buy something else > and the company losees money/goes under. (Unless, of course, you're microsoft > or another monopoly). You are having this discussion because the internet > was taken over by private enterprise years ago. People spend what they can, which may be more than they MAY... > > If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and > > vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time > > you open your wallet.) > > Bush... Gore .... Bush ... Gore ... anyone got a coin? The same system keeps > others from getting equal funding and airtime by presenting a chicken/egg > challange - to get funding and airtime you need 5% of the popular vote... > without funding and airtime you're not going to get 5% of the popular vote. > Bush promised a tax cut... that prob swayed a few people (635? :) ) It's Congress too, don't forget. And they have the purse strings. > > > > Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a > > helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to > > the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other > > things, roads and other transportation expenses. > > You'll notice that the ONLY thing they talk about cutting from losing this > "essential" tax is schools and social services (police, fire, etc). WTF?? As > Gary said, raise the state sales tax to 5%. Or how about... cut things other > than schools and social services... but see, that'd cut into the kickbacks > our duly elected officials are getting for protecting special and business > interests. And WHY is the car tax so "essential" when other states seem to > be able to get by just fine without it? (MD, as an example). Hire an > accountant, stop screwing us every year for being able to own a decent > vehicle. Governments of all forms need to have $$$ to exist. They get it one way or another in VA, it's the car tax, in MD it's the piggyback tax. They tax everything ; gas, everything else that you buy, property (basically, for the permission to live where you do), It's really quite ridiculous. Sort of like when you were in High school or college ; each teacher giving you 3 hours of homework, x 8 classes - meaning 24 hours of homework / day... so as long as you don't do anything else but homework, you'll be ok. :-| Each government entity gets their cut & by the time everyone is done with you, half your money's gone... > > > There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things > > will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is > > living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. > > Anyone who thinks the government is anything other than badly managed and > bloated needs to take a business or economics course. If you ran a private > business in such a manner it would have been out of business as quickly as it > started. Not to mention you'd be in jail, since it's illegal for all of us, the great unwashed, to misappropriate other's money, but it's perfectly fine for the governments... > > VA is one of the highest taxed states in the country, and I'll be glad once > I'm out of it. MD is higher, with more up front taxes. COL is higher in VA, resulting in higher net tax. MD has no yearly inspection or PP tax, but you pay 5% up front & the one inspection is 40 smackers & damn strict. That, I find unacceptable, especially given the size of our business > and private tax base. The problem is, the government just keeps taking over things, and offering new programs and the money has to come from somewhere. either cut the government or pays your moneys.... Dave -- Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 14:02:42 2001 From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'roach@XXXXXX'" , "Goldberg, Saul" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:02:26 -0400 Very well put. I'm trying so hard to stay out of the flame-throwing contests these days, but what the hell... First on the comment about taking the economics courses: it should be a requirement to be allowed to vote. Lack of understanding of the necessary balance between gov't & business is the biggest problem; dare I say even that's why the uneducated sway so heavily to the big government/redistribution of wealth models (that the democrats often favor) Second comment on fairness: Oops I'm out of time & off to a meeting. I'll just say that fairness is a VERY subjective term. Flame on~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: Brian Roach [mailto:roach@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 1:29 PM To: Goldberg, Saul; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread On Tue, 01 May 2001, Goldberg, Saul wrote: > Look, there are some things that government AND ONLY government can do > effectively and efficiently, Yes, like waste millions of dollars in taxpayers money with no accountability. Ask them for a detailed report on where the money actually goes sometime. > not to mention fairly. You're right there... I'm quite sure they're equal opportunity wasters of our money. > For getting > done, government is by far the best bargain. Wremember that when an > enterprise is private and "for profit" then someone is making money off of > the enterprise without actually contributing to the end product itself. Incorrect. The person making money LIKES making money, and wants to keep doing so. This is what drives private business - producing and selling a product. If people are unsatisfied with the product, they buy something else and the company losees money/goes under. (Unless, of course, you're microsoft or another monopoly). You are having this discussion because the internet was taken over by private enterprise years ago. > That is why prisons, schools, and (of special personal interest to us) > roads are best left to government. Prisons: Being farmed out to private enterprise due to government ineptitude. Schools: Ranked damn near last in comparison to other Western Countries. Roads: Debatable. I've seen some pretty nice neighborhoods around here maintained by the HOAs, but I'll give you this one... the Beltway is usually in pretty good shape and we have an extensive road infastructure here in the US. I guess one outa three ain't bad : / > Furthermore, private industry has never > been, and nor is it likely to ever be terribly interested in regulating > itself so that it minimizes its harmful effects on its employees, the > consumers of the product, or the surrounding community. Protecting us from > some of the wayward activities of businesses is something that government > does for us in exchange for a quite reasonable payment of some taxes. Um... where do the billions of dollars in taxes paid by those businesses go? > If you are upset about "your tax dollars" then vote early, vote often, and > vote consciously. (And not just in the voting booth. You "vote" every time > you open your wallet.) Bush... Gore .... Bush ... Gore ... anyone got a coin? The same system keeps others from getting equal funding and airtime by presenting a chicken/egg challange - to get funding and airtime you need 5% of the popular vote... without funding and airtime you're not going to get 5% of the popular vote. Bush promised a tax cut... that prob swayed a few people (635? :) ) > Case in point: Virginia is finding itself in a > helluva fix because it decided to abandon the car tax that was essential to > the state budget. Now she is scrambling to find money for, among other > things, roads and other transportation expenses. You'll notice that the ONLY thing they talk about cutting from losing this "essential" tax is schools and social services (police, fire, etc). WTF?? As Gary said, raise the state sales tax to 5%. Or how about... cut things other than schools and social services... but see, that'd cut into the kickbacks our duly elected officials are getting for protecting special and business interests. And WHY is the car tax so "essential" when other states seem to be able to get by just fine without it? (MD, as an example). Hire an accountant, stop screwing us every year for being able to own a decent vehicle. > There is no such thing as a free lunch. And anyone who thinks that things > will be fine without the expense of dollars and effort to make them so is > living in a fantasy world. Sorry to break it to you. Anyone who thinks the government is anything other than badly managed and bloated needs to take a business or economics course. If you ran a private business in such a manner it would have been out of business as quickly as it started. VA is one of the highest taxed states in the country, and I'll be glad once I'm out of it. And The fed gov't seems to be figuring out how to give us a break as well.. because people are tired of getting very little for the high taxes they pay. I wouldn't mind paying taxes if I actually saw the money going to good use. But if you research the examples you gave alone as things the gov't does "well", you'd find that the US is FAR behind the rest of the world in those areas. That, I find unacceptable, especially given the size of our business and private tax base. :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 14:25:54 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 11:25:33 -0400 From: Randy Moran CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Randy! Hardy Har-Har, Jordan. The answer is "34," and while that's more than your paltry 12 years, it's still not that old. Additionally, whilst you are chained to your desk today, using your employers Internet access to look up the stats on your favorite Pokemon characters, I will be taking the rest of the day off to ride my bike, the voltage rectifier on which is functioning perfectly BTW. Anyone who wants to ride this afternoon, drop me an email. Randy Sean Jordan wrote: > Let's all wish fellow lister Randy Moran a great big Happy Birthday, > and tease him mercilessly in celebration! > > -- > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 14:45:14 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 14:43:17 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: shipping cost To: DC Cycles List Some guy wrote: > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can call with info Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but does that sounds kind of high to anyone? I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I don't wanna get screwed on the shipping. Much thanks, Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 15:13:23 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:13:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitri Pappa Subject: Helmet painting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hi guys & gals, Anyone looking to get their helmet painted, a friend of mine is now open to the public. He does it in his spare time, but does a good job. Mild to wild. Apparently lots of wild for the Dirtbike crowd.. Located in Spotsylvania. website: Trueleo.com email: Troy@XXXXXX Regards, dp __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 15:50:08 2001 Subject: Re: shipping cost To: Dc-Cycles@XXXXXX From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:11:18 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/01/2001 03:25:59 PM If you know the approximate weight and size of the package you can go to www.usps.com and calculate the shipping cost.. I would think that UPS has a similar service. James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX Dale Horstman @home.com> cc: Subject: shipping cost 05/01/2001 02:43 PM Some guy wrote: > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can call with info Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but does that sounds kind of high to anyone? I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I don't wanna get screwed on the shipping. Much thanks, Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 16:08:36 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:02:40 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Matthew Patton CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Happy IWD! Matthew Patton wrote: > hey, I'm HAPPY to be employed. Now if we could do something about the scum sucking, money grubbing theives in Washington and Richmond who think they are entitled to 25+% of my money. Why don't they earn it for once. WOW! You lucky guy - only 25+% of your gross??? And you're bitching??? Oh yeah, I forgot, you're a Jimbo Gilmore fan - must have gone to the same school of no-math finance and don't have one clue what it realy costs taxwise.. And think how much lower your taxes would be if the tax boys said no more free rides and taxed - say church property fer starters... Whoa, babee, I see a few hundred thou of possible real estate tax within a mile of my house! Bill living in reality From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 16:14:23 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:08:33 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Dale Horstman CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: shipping cost Nope, doesn't sound high, but I reckon you could shop around. Shipping surface is cheapest no matter what service is used, those overnites and 2nd days can skyroccket the cost. Wieght & size matter, but I can't imagine a front fairing wieghing all that much. Bill Dale Horstman wrote: > Some guy wrote: > > > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can call with info > > Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours > upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? > Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but > does that sounds kind of high to anyone? > > I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I don't wanna > get screwed on the shipping. > > Much thanks, > Horkster > > -- > Mandatory second line (CM tm) > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 16:36:01 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:35:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: shipping cost To: DC Cycles List I shipped a fairing I sold on eBay from Baltimore to California via UPS standard ground for about 9 bucks. If it's coming ground, that price is extremely high. If it's next day or two day delivery, it's in the ballpark. --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > Nope, doesn't sound high, but I reckon you could > shop around. Shipping > surface is cheapest no matter what service is used, > those overnites and > 2nd days can skyroccket the cost. Wieght & size > matter, but I can't > imagine a front fairing wieghing all that much. > > Bill > > Dale Horstman wrote: > > > Some guy wrote: > > > > > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can > call with info > > > > Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a > Concours > > upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is > excessive? > > Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, > but > > does that sounds kind of high to anyone? > > > > I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I > don't wanna > > get screwed on the shipping. > > > > Much thanks, > > Horkster > > > > -- > > Mandatory second line (CM tm) > > > > Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT > #322 - 9 of 99 done. > > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > > > '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer > > '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi > > '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 16:58:43 2001 From: FGrefe@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:58:19 EDT Subject: Re: O/T--Happy IWD!--Rant/thread To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In a message dated 5/1/01 12:33:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sgoldber@XXXXXX writes: > Want to see a movie, go snowboarding, or even get laid? > All of these require some work and some money. NOT TRUE, NOT TRUE! I haven't paid money to get laid in at least a year, maybe more. Or maybe I haven't gotten laid in a year. Hmmm...No, it must be the first one. Yeah, I definitely haven't paid for it. Or maybe I've paid on credit and after I get married in a few weeks the bill will come due. Ooooh, that's a scary thought. A layaway plan. Get it... lay-away. I crack me up. Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 17:13:54 2001 Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:13:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Hey Danny Thompson What kind of hugger did you have on your VFR? Thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 17:42:11 2001 From: "Ahalan" To: , "dc-cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:41:14 -0700 Well next time make sure I know before the race where, what, why, how and when... Glad I got something of you. -----Original Message----- From: Boiade@XXXXXX [mailto:Boiade@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:06 AM To: sean.jordan@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Finally - Pictures from Summit Point Weekend (April 21-22) In the "Vintage" photo that's me in pole position on the 350 in the Formula 500 race. You can see the 66 of the 669. Finished 5th, I guess I went backwards!!! Wish you had taken a pic of me on the 250 in the Vintage 2 race where I started way back and finished 3rd. Less embarassing. On the other hand people tend to take pictures of the front row at the start. Ciao, Fred From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 18:14:22 2001 From: "L4rite" To: "DC Cycles List" Subject: Re: shipping cost Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:11:28 -0700 Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but does that sounds kind of high to anyone? Horkster Dale, I had an XR350 engine shipped in from Kalifornia by air...it came into a shipping company at BWI, can't remember the name, but it is in the book.....it cost me about $30 for 3 day shipping, maybe Dulles has something similar...good luck. .......later Les... From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 18:42:32 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: "DC Cycles List \(E-mail\)" , "Zx \(E-mail\)" Subject: CURSES! Fouled again. Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:44:47 -0400 I've (gas) fouled yet another set of plugs. I found this out when I fired up AM(tm) this morning, to be rewarded with the 'Volkswagen' idle. So, after work, I furiously yanked apart the upper workings & pulled a plug. Sure enough, black as coal. Not oil fouled. So, now I need a new set of plugs. I only got 9 months out of these plugs...Here's my ?'s: AM(tm) has gobs of power, but, I commute on it, so I have to be able to run in traffic every once in a while. Currently, I'm running the NGK CR9E resistors, gapped at .025. I've got plenty of ignition, Dyna coils & a V&H powerpak, through stock wires. To me, the gap seems small. My mechanic disagrees with me, citing his opinion that for my type of ryding, I need a smaller plug gap. 9 months of plug life doesn't impress me. I say increase the gap... Are the NGK's a good plug (for a bike with over 12.5 -1 compression) n/a ? Any alternatives? Should I gap the plugs differently? What's the stock ZX11 plug gap? Hotter plug (heat range) ? cooler plug? Any pearls of plug wisdom welcome TIA, Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 19:28:52 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 19:27:11 -0400 From: Larry Meyer To: DCC Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again The regular Smart Tag works fine in a tank bag. It's only failed me once, and I was going 65. Larry Meyer Annandale, VA 1997 Bandit 1200 Scratch wrote: > This is what Smart Tag had to say in response to my > questions. Thay kant spel. > > From:Smart-Tag > Re: Motorcycle version? > > Four things you need to know > 1. We do not have a different unit for motorcycles > > 2. We do not garentee that it will work > > 3. There is no lower rate for motorcycles > > 4. Of the two types of tags ask for the bumper tag as > that seems to work best. It will need to be mounted. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 19:34:26 2001 From: "Laura Granato" To: , "Sean Jordan" Subject: Re: Happy Birthday Randy! Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:34:48 -0400 > Let's all wish fellow lister Randy Moran a great big Happy Birthday, > and tease him mercilessly in celebration! > I tried to, but he never got back on IM today...happy birthday, Randy!!!! Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 20:50:50 2001 From: bergman@XXXXXX To: "Goldberg, Saul" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:47:12 -0400 In your message dated: Tue, 01 May 2001 09:01:29 EDT, The pithy ruminations from "Goldberg, Saul" on were: => When you clean off the bugs, be very gentle. Remember that the exoskeletons => of those guys crunch up into little pieces to become a very effective => abrasive not unlike sandpaper. Best to apply some luke-water first and try => to help them to quietly slide off before doing the residue removal. Good suggestion. My technique for the overnight clean up after a long day of riding is to soak a washcloth in the hottest water possible, then leave the towel draped over the faceshield for about 10 minutes. During a ride, I keep a "Wee Willie" and synthetic chamois in my tank bag. The Wee Willie is a small (~4oz) pump spray dispenser bottle with a sponge on one side and a small (~3") squeegee on the other. It's great for "at the stoplight clean the faceshield" moves. Mark => => Saul Goldberg => Gaithersburg MD => '89 pearl PC800 => => => -----Original Message----- => From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] => Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:30 AM => To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX => Subject: RE: Splat!!! => => => I steal wet naps from restaurants and keep them in my => jacket pockets. They're great for cleaning your hands => and visor. => => => --- Dave Yates wrote: => > => > S100 wax on the shield, and keep a rag & some => > water with you. Rag should => > be cotton, like a cloth diaper, so as not to scratch => > the shield. => => => __________________________________________________ => Do You Yahoo!? => Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices => http://auctions.yahoo.com/ => Mark Bergman Biker, IATSE #1 Stagehand, Rock Climber, Unix mechanic '94 Yamaha GTS1000A bergman@XXXXXX I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters 5+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 21:10:05 2001 From: "Dave Yates" Cc: Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:11:07 -0400 Mark confessed without shame: Good suggestion. My technique for the overnight clean up after a long day of riding is to soak a washcloth in the hottest water possible, then leave the towel draped over the faceshield for about 10 minutes. During a ride, I keep a "Wee Willie" Whoa Mark... more than we need to know ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 21:58:42 2001 From: bergman@XXXXXX To: "Dave Yates" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:56:37 -0400 In your message dated: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:11:07 EDT, The pithy ruminations from "Dave Yates" on were: => Mark confessed without shame: => Good suggestion. My technique for the overnight clean up after a long day of => riding is to soak a washcloth in the hottest water possible, then leave the => towel draped over the faceshield for about 10 minutes. => => During a ride, I keep a "Wee Willie" => Whoa Mark... more than we need to know ;-) I thought someone would enjoy that...here's the whole scoop: http://www.weewilly.com/ Mark "Yeah, everything has a URL now...even my Wee Willy" Bergman => => => => Dave Yates => '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' => '97 Cobra #5148 => http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ => => From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 22:04:47 2001 From: "Dave Yates" Cc: Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:07:02 -0400 Mark "Yeah, everything has a URL now...even my Wee Willy" Bergman Yeah, yeah. Let me guess... You shall call him.... Minime... ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 22:14:24 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 22:08:34 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Dave Yates CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Wee Willy, etc etc... sheesh. Screw that, I just let the grundge accumulate. Every time I go on a clean faceshied binge I'm horrorfied! It's scarey out there with clear vison! Bill Dave Yates wrote: > Mark "Yeah, everything has a URL now...even my Wee Willy" Bergman > Yeah, yeah. Let me guess... You shall call him.... Minime... > ;-) > > Dave Yates > '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' > '97 Cobra #5148 > http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 22:17:32 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: "'William J. Huson'" Cc: Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:19:39 -0400 Wee Willy, etc etc... sheesh. Screw that, I just let the grundge accumulate. Every time I go on a clean faceshied binge I'm horrorfied! It's scarey out there with clear vison! Besides, with a spotless helmet, shield, windscreen, etc.. you'll be positively identified as either a poser or a squid ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 22:58:39 2001 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 22:52:43 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Dave Yates CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Dave Yates wrote: > Wee Willy, etc etc... sheesh. Screw that, I just let the grundge > accumulate. > Every time I go on a clean faceshied binge I'm horrorfied! It's scarey out > there with clear vison! > > Besides, with a spotless helmet, shield, windscreen, etc.. you'll be > positively identified as either a poser or a squid ;-) > Not a chance. Yesterday a dude and a chibck on a sporty pulled up next to me at a light. He looked at my rather soiled Harley and sneered. I gave them my you stupid fucker grin - the girl was wearing a tank and shorts, like goodbye skin if she fell off. Oh yreah, and the obligatory beanie helmets too. Think there's a relationship to helmet quality and the brain therein? Bill From dc-cycles-request Tue May 1 23:09:14 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: "'William J. Huson'" Cc: Subject: RE: Splat!!!/Clean-up Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:11:31 -0400 Bill Huson wondered aloud: Think there's a relationship to helmet quality and the brain therein? Snell 95 & 2000 approved lids - obviously superior intelligence & mental capacity Snell (older) lids - smarter than the aaaverage bear ! Dot full face or 3/4 helmet - better than average mental capacity, capable of independent thought. Barely legal beanie lids - crafted for those of lower intelligence brackets, since they wouldn't know any better. Not quite capable of independent thought. Something along those lines, Bill ? ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 06:50:34 2001 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 03:50:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up To: "William J. Huson" , Dave Yates Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > Dave Yates wrote: > > > Wee Willy, etc etc... sheesh. Screw that, I just let > > the grundge accumulate. Every time I go on a clean > > faceshied binge I'm horrorfied! It's scarey out > > there with clear vison! > > > > Besides, with a spotless helmet, shield, windscreen, > > etc.. you'll be positively identified as either a poser > > or a squid ;-) > > > > Not a chance. Yesterday a dude and a chibck on a sporty > pulled up next to me at a light. He looked at my rather > soiled Harley and sneered. I gave them my you stupid > fucker grin - the girl was wearing a tank and shorts, > like goodbye skin if she fell off. Oh yreah, and the > obligatory beanie helmets too. > Think there's a relationship to helmet quality and the > brain therein? there may be a correlation....however, and i mean no offense here, people who wear full face helmets and other protective gear when they're riding their harleys look odd/out of place. they make v-stars and valkeries for people like that. the harley was meant to be ridden by a tattooed, helmetless mofo. ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 08:15:37 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 08:09:40 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Tom Gimer CC: Dave Yates , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Splat!!!/Clean-up Tom Gimer wrote: > there may be a correlation....however, and i mean no > offense here, people who wear full face helmets and other > protective gear when they're riding their harleys look > odd/out of place. they make v-stars and valkeries for > people like that. > > the harley was meant to be ridden by a tattooed, helmetless > mofo. Even worse, my Harley has legal 80db pipes, but I'm used to being the odd man out. I was thinking tattoo but my woman was in therupy for months after I got my ear pierced back in `88. Bill From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 08:56:19 2001 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'trey_22206@XXXXXX'" Subject: Inexpensive OEM Suzuki Parts Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:56:38 -0400 Trey wondered, "Where is the best place to get a shift lever for a 99 SV650." I've not kept up on OEM Suzuki parts since Banzai dropped mail order (& '80 GS 450 died) -- but: http://www.hondasuzukinorth.com has Honda parts for ~25% off list and I guess their Suzuki parts are similar. "Cycles USA says 68.99 but they don't have it in stock." Bwahahaha Cycles USA will order the part . . . eventually . . . maybe. Follow Thad's advice or go to Myers Cycles in Kensington. John or Steve will order the part right away. Cycles USA will order when they get enough orders together. That'll be in one week, two, four . . .? Internet or mail order will have the part on your door step in a few days. Carl in Bethesda (from the gummimint and here to hep . . .) From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 09:05:40 2001 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:05:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: Re: Inexpensive OEM Suzuki Parts To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'trey_22206@XXXXXX'" Gee thanks Carl. Unfortunately I already put my order in with Cycles Usa Doh!!:-((. Who knows maybe it will work out. If I don't have the part in a week (which is when they said I would have it) I will cancel the order with my credit card company and try one of the other suggestions. Thanks Trey --- "Custer, Carl" wrote: > Trey wondered, > "Where is the best place to get a shift lever for a > 99 SV650." > I've not kept up on OEM Suzuki parts since Banzai > dropped mail order (& '80 > GS 450 died) -- but: > http://www.hondasuzukinorth.com > has Honda parts for ~25% off list and I guess their > Suzuki parts are > similar. > > "Cycles USA says 68.99 but they don't have it in > stock." > Bwahahaha > Cycles USA will order the part . . . eventually . . > . maybe. > Follow Thad's advice or go to Myers Cycles in > Kensington. > John or Steve will order the part right away. > Cycles USA will order when they get enough orders > together. That'll be in > one week, two, four . . .? > Internet or mail order will have the part on your > door step in a few days. > Carl in Bethesda (from the gummimint and here to hep > . . .) > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 09:17:11 2001 From: "Rob Keiser" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:05:25 -0400 I've played around with a couple spots on the bike, but the 'best' success I've had has been in the map pocket on top of my tank bag. However, it only seems to work when I'm going far less than 30 mph; and at that speed, I'll get creamed from the cars/trucks behind me. Most of the time at the Greenway tolls, the gates are down, so a slower speed is a must, but on the main toll plaza by the beltway, slower speeds aren't an option. Oh, well. Looks like I'll be taking the scenic way to work more often. Hello, Pt. of Rocks! BTW, what is the bumper tag option? How does that differ from the regular one? Rob '98 VFR800 > > 4. Of the two types of tags ask for the bumper tag as > > that seems to work best. It will need to be mounted. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 10:56:13 2001 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:49:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Someone should market one of those Gobert-style "finned" helmets with a Smart Tag transponder inside the fin. Rich Coyote, Genius "Rob" wrote... >I've played around with a couple spots on the bike, > but the 'best' success I've had has been in the map > pocket on top of my tank bag. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 11:27:19 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:25:16 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: racers To: DC Cycles List Thought this was humorous. http://geocities.com/ecumike5/sfx/ Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 11:36:04 2001 From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:35:51 EDT Subject: Re: racers To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I saw this whole incident unfold from perhaps the best vantage point on the whole track. Since I had wrecked my 400 two days before, I ended up working the crash truck for Saturday and Sunday. When these guys had their little moment, I was sitting in the truck past the fence in the emergency vehicles staging area. I had a perfect vantage point of the track from turn one all the way through Left Hook. (Where this crash took place.) As I recally, 710 made a very nice pass on 202 going through Nascar bend, and 202 tried to stuff 710 on the inside of Left Hook. I remember saying to myself, "he's not going to make that *smack* passohsh!t...." and got ready to drive the truck down there and pick up some bikes. 202 hit the ground first and slid to the outside of the track. 710 managed to keep the bike up until he hit the grass. 202 was up and walking first, and when 710 got up, he went straight for 202. It was rather funny to watch, since neither one could really hurt the other any more than they already were. I believe one of the guys had a dislocated shoulder, too. (Maybe 202?) The funniest part was listening to the woman working that corner on the radio. She would get into a tizzy if she thought she saw a knee-puck on the track, and when this happened, she lost it. Especially when one of the specators hopped the fence and tried to break it up. There's a reason why they call the Novice 600 classes the "Meatgrinder" classes. Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 14:46:04 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 14:44:46 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: racers To: Cc: Yep. Pretty good. Anyone we know? Scooter In a message dated Wed, 2 May 2001 11:32:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dale Horstman writes: << Thought this was humorous. http://geocities.com/ecumike5/sfx/ Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress >> From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 17:21:28 2001 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 17:21:10 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: Sport bike friendly establishments... To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Anyone have any suggestion of restaurants/pubs/bars in the DC/NoVA area where sport riders hang-out on a regular basis? I'm looking for mid-week watering holes to frequent and figure it'd be nicer to hang out with those who want to talking riding... Thanks, -Calvin From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 18:18:30 2001 From: "Ahalan" To: "'Dale Horstman'" , "'DC Cycles List'" Subject: RE: shipping cost Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 18:18:09 -0700 Dale, The problem with such pieces is their size - above a certain size UPS (and I believe FedEx) charge you a much higher rate. I sent a tall windscreen that I sold and UPS wanted about $40 for sending it, even though it weighed next to nothing. I crossed the street to the US Postal and sent it Priority Mail w/ insurance for $13. Go for it. Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: Dale Horstman [mailto:the.horkster@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 11:43 AM To: DC Cycles List Subject: shipping cost Some guy wrote: > > $44.45 for shipping. we take paypal or you can call with info Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Not sure if he's using UPS,USPS, Fedex, or what, but does that sounds kind of high to anyone? I scored a good deal on Ebay for the upper, but I don't wanna get screwed on the shipping. Much thanks, Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 19:07:52 2001 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:07:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Tchaka Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Yes it does. Another friend and I use the 'plastic-velcro' inside our windshields and that works fine too. Tchaka > Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 19:27:11 -0400 > From: Larry Meyer > X-Accept-Language: en,pdf > To: DCC > Subject: Re: Smart Tag Again > > The regular Smart Tag works fine in a tank bag. It's > only failed me > once, and I was going 65. > > Larry Meyer > Annandale, VA > 1997 Bandit 1200 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 19:47:43 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 19:46:47 -0400 From: Dale Horstman To: Concours Owners Group , DC Cycles Subject: Re: shipping cost > > Can anybody tell me if $44.45 for shipping a Concours > > upper fairing from Arizona to Virginia is excessive? Thanks for all the replies. I went out and played on the Fedex and UPS websites, turns out shipping an oversize box like what would be needed to pack the Concours fairing into is what's driving up the price. Oh, well, I guess it's still a good deal, even with shipping. I'll quit whining now. :) Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 GS850G, '87 Concours - project bikes From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 22:11:22 2001 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:11:09 EDT Subject: WV RT 72 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. Bob From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 22:27:28 2001 From: "Dave Yates" To: , Subject: RE: WV RT 72 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:28:35 -0400 Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. A quick look at Map N Go shows it to look fairly twisty, but not all that long. Not as twisty as Deals gap (for as long). Also looks like you're in some National Park territory. But you could then pick up 33, also pretty twisty towards the Brandywine rec area. Follow 33 & it intersects Skyline. Should be an ok ride... HTH. Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 23:02:55 2001 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 23:02:12 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Andrew Culpepper Subject: Re: WV RT 72 At 10:11 PM 5/2/01 , McKeithen@XXXXXX wrote: >Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and >Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to >check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. I'll be riding around NW NC with a bunch of Ducatistas Friday and Saturday and then checking out Deal's Gap and surrounding areas next Monday and Tuesday. Anyone else planning to be in the area then? The rest of you all, keep your noses to the grindstone :-) From dc-cycles-request Wed May 2 23:53:39 2001 From: "James Reazor" To: Subject: Adventure Moto Gear Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:26:13 -0400 I saw a Bagster ( http://www.bagster.com ) on a friends bike a while ago and decided I wanted one. I asked where he got it... England. Great... started looking for mail order web sites and was quoted 6 to 8 weeks for delivery because the product had to come from France. Eventually I found http://www.adventuremotogear.com as it turns out they're a mail order only house but they're located in Springfield. I gave them a call and spoke to Linda. How long? 2 weeks. That was a week and a half ago. I got it today. They also went way out of their way to accommodate me AND dropped the price on one item below what I agreed to pay after looking at their cost with the exchange rate. Needless to say, I highly recommend these guys. Their product line is a bit limited but if they have anything you need, buy with confidence. -James '00 SV650 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 08:42:37 2001 From: Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 08:41:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Adventure Moto Gear To: James Reazor Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 05/03/2001 08:42:36 AM I agree. I have bought all my GiVi bags through them. I first discovered them at the (weak) Baltimore Bike Show a few years ago, and they have been top notch as far as customer service goes. Others I have recommended to them have had similar experiences. --chris James Reazor on 05/02/2001 11:26:13 PM Please respond to James Reazor To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Subject: Adventure Moto Gear I saw a Bagster ( http://www.bagster.com ) on a friends bike a while ago and decided I wanted one. I asked where he got it... England. Great... started looking for mail order web sites and was quoted 6 to 8 weeks for delivery because the product had to come from France. Eventually I found http://www.adventuremotogear.com as it turns out they're a mail order only house but they're located in Springfield. I gave them a call and spoke to Linda. How long? 2 weeks. That was a week and a half ago. I got it today. They also went way out of their way to accommodate me AND dropped the price on one item below what I agreed to pay after looking at their cost with the exchange rate. Needless to say, I highly recommend these guys. Their product line is a bit limited but if they have anything you need, buy with confidence. -James '00 SV650 ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 08:57:56 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 05:57:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Horn Problem To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX I am having a horn problem and wonder if anyone could help. Here are the details 1991 VFR All other electricals work fine Higher than recommended headlight bulbs Single Fiamm horn installed about one year ago. Althoug some recommend a relay for this horn, I did not install it (could this be the problem). The horn has worked perfectly for the past year. Here is the problem. The form will sound fine when the bike is running but not being driven (idling). When the engine is moving fast, the horn either emits an slight 'bleep' or does not work at all. Any ideas? Is this due to the lack of the relay switch? Here is the text that recommended the use of a realy. Note: the reason I omitted the relay is beacuse I did not install the larger, double horns that this guy did. "The stock horn is switched directly by the horn switch. The increased current draw of the Fiamms is likely to damage the switch contacts, so a relay must be used. Use an automotive style relay with a current rating of 30 amps or more (try Radio Shack's 275-226, a rather universal one). The horns are not going to actually draw 30 amps of current, but they represent an inductive load (like a motor) so the heavy contacts are important." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:02:46 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Next Bike Night To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Remember, the next Bike Night is Sunday, May 20th at CarPool! Please come on out. Also, can anyone on other Moto Lists please distribute this message? If you are going to do that, please drop me a line so I can remind you again as the event approaches. http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:07:57 2001 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: looking for 93 gixxer 750 parts Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:14:16 -0700 well my lady friend seemed to find a good deal. She got a 93 gixxer 750 for $2500. Of course it needs a little work. the bike is purple/black, 93 gixxer 750. looking for windshield tail fairing center peice gas tank if anyone has an antidraft race tail, maybe that too. Let me know, thanks sorry that guy didn't have any more bikes/deals for those of you looking. Danny thanks! From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:09:45 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Need Help Promoting Bike Nights To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Listers: I need help putting up posters for Bike Night. I have covered the following shops in Virginia: -Powersports -Crossroads -Patriot HD -Fast Lane -Cycle Sport Herndon I need people to put up posters at any other Bike Shops, including -Manassas Honda -Witt HD -Cycle Sport Springfield -The BMW shop down 95S? -Any and ALL shops in Maryland Thanks. If you can help, I will email you a poster that you can put up. Leave them anywhere you see motorcycles. THANKS! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:11:53 2001 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: re: tie downs Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:18:13 -0700 that's why I like to use 2 straps on each side... (front and rear) that's atleast 5 grand worth of value you're hauling around! Danny From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:19:50 2001 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:13:58 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: Mark Kitchell CC: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Horn Problem 30 amps!!! That probably puts the horn as the biggest current draw on your bike! Put the relay in and check the horn switch for damage. Make sure the wires from the relay to the horn are FAT suckers. I'm thinking like 10 gauge. Bill Mark Kitchell wrote: > I am having a horn problem and wonder if anyone could > help. Here are the details > > 1991 VFR > All other electricals work fine > Higher than recommended headlight bulbs > Single Fiamm horn installed about one year ago. > Althoug some recommend a relay for this horn, I did > not install it (could this be the problem). > > The horn has worked perfectly for the past year. Here > is the problem. The form will sound fine when the > bike is running but not being driven (idling). When > the engine is moving fast, the horn either emits an > slight 'bleep' or does not work at all. > > Any ideas? Is this due to the lack of the relay > switch? > > Here is the text that recommended the use of a realy. > Note: the reason I omitted the relay is beacuse I did > not install the larger, double horns that this guy > did. > > "The stock horn is switched directly by the horn > switch. The increased current draw of the Fiamms is > likely to damage the switch contacts, so a relay must > be used. Use an automotive style relay with a current > rating of 30 amps or more (try Radio Shack's 275-226, > a rather universal one). The horns are not going to > actually draw 30 amps of current, but they represent > an inductive load (like a motor) so the heavy contacts > are important." > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:21:01 2001 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 08:19:34 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: Aprilia/TPM track day Is anyone from the DC cycles crew attending the track day tomorrow at summit Point? If so come on by, I will be towing a blue R6 with my Silver Honda CRV. I will have a blue tarp set up. According to the Aprilia rep, they will have a Mille, a Falco and a RS 250 to demo. Cheers, George Cole 99 R6 00 VFR From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:29:39 2001 From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Superbike School/Deal's Gap Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:29:25 -0400 I'm going to be taking Keith Code's Superbike school at VIR on May 16th & 17th with a friend. From there we're going down to Deal's Gap for the weekend (18-20th)ish. Is anyone else from this list going to be at the school, or down to Deal's Gap that weekend? If so let me know! Matt Matthew M. Pflieger, MBA, CPA Operations Controller SAIC Information Technology Solutions Group 1710 SAIC Drive MS 1-3-8 McLean, VA 22102 703-676-5013 pfliegerma@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:30:11 2001 From: Gaske David G DLVA To: "'McKeithen@XXXXXX'" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: WV RT 72 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 09:29:54 -0400 First reply since subscribing, so we'll see how it goes..... I spent 7 years of riding this area, 72 was a frequent southward road to get down into the central part of WV. It is a nice stretch of road, but due to Coal trucks and a poor state wanting to spend more money on Corridor H, it is bumpy as hell. Not the kind of road you will want to ride fast, but one worth riding. If you are looking for more turns than the Gap, as well as a steeper drop of. RT 72 between Dryfork (rt. 32) and Parsons is SICK. Once again it is not a knee dragging road, but constant turns the whole length, and if you miss one, its down a few hundred feet into the Dry Fork river HTH, David "Lost Dawg" Gaske '00 Sprint RS (yellow) Fredericksburg, Va. USA www.triumphnet.com -----Original Message----- From: McKeithen@XXXXXX [mailto:McKeithen@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:11 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: WV RT 72 Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. Bob From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 09:44:05 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 06:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Superbike School/Deal's Gap To: "Pflieger, Matthew M." , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" I am going to the school. Does anyone need a roomate (16th only)?? --- "Pflieger, Matthew M." wrote: > I'm going to be taking Keith Code's Superbike school > at VIR on May 16th & > 17th with a friend. From there we're going down to > Deal's Gap for the > weekend (18-20th)ish. Is anyone else from this list > going to be at the > school, or down to Deal's Gap that weekend? If so > let me know! > Matt > > > > Matthew M. Pflieger, MBA, CPA > Operations Controller > SAIC > Information Technology Solutions Group > 1710 SAIC Drive > MS 1-3-8 > McLean, VA 22102 > 703-676-5013 > pfliegerma@XXXXXX > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 10:58:27 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 07:57:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: "Ledford, Calvin" cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Sport bike friendly establishments... Well I go to the Revolution Coffee Lounge in Herndon to watch the races on Tuesdays. It's biker friendly but the atmosphere would be greatly improved if the place was inundated with bikers. There's also a bike night every other thursday in Purciville or Leesburg but I'm not sure of the details. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 11:31:58 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:31:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Superbike School/Deal's Gap To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" wrote: > we're going down to Deal's Gap for the > weekend (18-20th)ish. Is anyone else from this list > going to be at the > school, or down to Deal's Gap that weekend? That's the weekend of the 2d International Ninja 250's at the Gap weekend. It's one of the largest known gatherings of Ninja 250s in the US. Just ask Todd P and Tom G. They got caught up in the traffic jam at Townsend. There must have been nearly 10 Ninja 250s there. Some of them are almost as fast as a motorhome. :-) Leon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 13:10:27 2001 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:10:15 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need Help Promoting Bike Nights To: Cc: In a message dated Thu, 3 May 2001 9:10:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Mark Kitchell writes: << Listers: I need help putting up posters for Bike Night. I have covered the following shops in Virginia: -Powersports -Crossroads -Patriot HD -Fast Lane -Cycle Sport Herndon I need people to put up posters at any other Bike Shops, including -Manassas Honda -Witt HD -Cycle Sport Springfield -The BMW shop down 95S? -Any and ALL shops in Maryland Thanks. If you can help, I will email you a poster that you can put up. Leave them anywhere you see motorcycles. THANKS! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 13:13:29 2001 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:13:08 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need Help Promoting Bike Nights To: Cc: Sorry 'bout that. Too quick on the trigger finger with that send button. :-) What I was going to say was, Cycle Sport Springfield is now Cycle Sport Alexandria. They've moved. I think they're having their Grand Opening this weekend too. Sorry I can't put up posters for you. Just thought I'd pass on the info. Scooter In a message dated Thu, 3 May 2001 9:10:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Mark Kitchell writes: << Listers: I need help putting up posters for Bike Night. I have covered the following shops in Virginia: -Powersports -Crossroads -Patriot HD -Fast Lane -Cycle Sport Herndon I need people to put up posters at any other Bike Shops, including -Manassas Honda -Witt HD -Cycle Sport Springfield -The BMW shop down 95S? -Any and ALL shops in Maryland Thanks. If you can help, I will email you a poster that you can put up. Leave them anywhere you see motorcycles. THANKS! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 13:13:59 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 10:13:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Sport bike friendly establishments... To: twg@XXXXXX, cledford@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hugh Caldwell wrote... "There's also a bike night every other thursday in Purciville or Leesburg but I'm not sure of the details." Last time we went to the White Palace in Purcellville, all the bar tables were taken so we had to eat in the Restaurant with the *gasp* civilians (and they started charging for every coke, instead of the usual bottomless glass arrangement). There was no parking, yada, yada... Definitely not as fun as it usually is. So on the 26th we had our thing in Leesburg at the venue formerly known as Payne's. It's under new management now, and they're calling it The Downtown... Pub or something. Anyway, the new management has fixed the place up, and it was nice. The food was arguably not as good and greasy as the White Palace, but still palatable. They let us drag all the tables around till we were happy, and they let us pile up our helmets and stuff on a side bar. I thought they treated us pretty well. Bike count was about 15, including two Payne's holdovers. The next meeting of the Northern Virginia Wandering Bikers will also be held at Payne's (or whatever it's called now) in Leesburg on the 10th of May. The usual times are 6:00pm ~ 9:30. A certain Mr. Norton (who rides a Honda) was there last time. What did you think, Bruce? Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 13:43:33 2001 From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Re: Sport bike friendly establishments... Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:44:15 -0400 To anyone who has lived in or near Leesburg for a while, this place will always be referred to as 'Payne's Biker Bar'. No matter how many times they change the name. CJ and I both enjoyed it. The on-street parking was full by the time we got there. Did you notice that the car parked in the yellow zone out front was the bartender? Next time I'll park right behind him. Hope to get more locals there next time. More sportbikes! Bruce (one day I'll have a) Norton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scratch" > The next meeting of the Northern Virginia Wandering > Bikers will also be held at Payne's (or whatever it's > called now) in Leesburg on the 10th of May. The usual > times are 6:00pm ~ 9:30. > > A certain Mr. Norton (who rides a Honda) was there > last time. What did you think, Bruce? > > Rich From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 14:21:12 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:21:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Sport bike friendly establishments... To: DCC > The next meeting of the Northern Virginia Wandering > Bikers will also be held at Payne's (or whatever it's > called now) in Leesburg on the 10th of May. The usual > times are 6:00pm ~ 9:30. For the record, I just made that name up. :) Also, any brand of bike is welcome. Some of us ride Olde Brit bikes, and there is a sizable BMW contingent. But occasionally some *really* cool bikes show up. I have seen a guy ride up on his original Indian Chief, another a Vincent Rapide, and there was once a new MV Agusta there. CU, Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 14:55:59 2001 From: "Vas Majer" To: Subject: Moto Camp Night in Blue Grass, VA Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:55:36 -0400 Greetings. I'm sure those of you who've ridden the mountain highlands of western Virginia will affirm for those of you that haven't what unsurpassed motorcyling roads you'll find in Highland and Bath counties of VA, and Pochohantas county of WV. Here's a great way to re-visit or visit for the first time this superb motorcycling area this June: Motorcycle Camp Night in the Blue Grass Valley, [http://personal.cfw.com/~bookbank/] complete with live bluegrass music and a hot dog supper. Proceeds to benefit a children's library. You can't go wrong on this one. Give it a look. Vas Majer From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 15:27:16 2001 From: "Ahalan" To: "'James Reazor'" , Subject: RE: Adventure Moto Gear Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 15:26:21 -0700 I looked at the bagster saddle bags and they look quite appealing. I've sent an email to adventuremotogear for more information. Thanks for the info. Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: James Reazor [mailto:JReazor@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 8:26 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Adventure Moto Gear I saw a Bagster ( http://www.bagster.com ) on a friends bike a while ago and decided I wanted one. I asked where he got it... England. Great... started looking for mail order web sites and was quoted 6 to 8 weeks for delivery because the product had to come from France. Eventually I found http://www.adventuremotogear.com as it turns out they're a mail order only house but they're located in Springfield. I gave them a call and spoke to Linda. How long? 2 weeks. That was a week and a half ago. I got it today. They also went way out of their way to accommodate me AND dropped the price on one item below what I agreed to pay after looking at their cost with the exchange rate. Needless to say, I highly recommend these guys. Their product line is a bit limited but if they have anything you need, buy with confidence. -James '00 SV650 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 20:45:36 2001 From: "David Thompson" To: Subject: Re: WV RT 72 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:47:53 -0400 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:11:09 EDT Subject: WV RT 72 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I rode it ~ 6 years ago. It's twisty all right, also narrow (like one lane in some areas) & pavement had lots of loose stones in the tight turns. I was on a Concours at the time & remember a lot of 2nd & 3rd gear riding. It was also uncommonly pretty & I'd ride it again, but I wouldn't call it the ideal sportbike road. If you're riding in WV, check out the WV page at the North American Sportbike Road Registry. There's plenty of "rider rated" roads listed. http://www.execpc.com/~ytk/ David "RoutemeiSTer" Thompson Dthomps1@XXXXXX http://home.rochester.rr.com/backroads/ Rochester NY Age 62 Retired Xeroid AMA# 504560 STOC# 840 Current STable 90 Suzuki DR350S 91 Honda Silver ST1100 94 Honda VFR From dc-cycles-request Thu May 3 23:23:47 2001 Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:23:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: Injury Fund E-News: May '01 To: IF News APRIL Recap: -Pit Bull joined the TSR campaign by pledging a Forklift front stand, and one of their newly released SS Rear stands. It works with both spooled and standard swingarms. Both retail for $140, and will be given away to one of our lucky ticket holders! -TSR kicked off it's racing season by attending the CCS event at VA Int'l Raceway in Danville, VA, and the WERA event at Summit Point Raceway in Summit Point, WV. At VIR, Steve met with two mechanical DNF's in GT Lights and LW Superbike, but did manage a 4th place finish in the LW SS race. At Summit, he continued to run upfront by taking the holeshot at the start of the LW Solo, but promptly crashed into the T1 peagravel. Determined to finish in the money, he took chase and still finished 5th. In Formula 2 and LW Twins he, again and again, took 4th place finishes. -Our Upcoming Events: June 9th - CCS - Carolina Motorsports Park June 15th - WERA VIR Cycle JAM! June 23rd - WERA Carolina Motorsports Park -During the rider's meetings, each attendee received a raffle flyer. Throughout each day, we also visited folks in their pits, talked to them about the injury fund, and sold raffle tickets and T-shirts. Thanks to everyone that made a donation! -We would like to express our congratulations to John Ulrich, of Roadracing World, for spearheading a very successful campaign to raise money for the purchase and deployment of airfence sections. We were also very happy to hear that the fences would not only be available for the AMA, but for club-level organizations as well. We feel that this is a very worthy cause, and look forward to the benefits that this new level of safety will bring to the sport. Please visit http://www.RoadRacingWorld.com for all of the details. --- May is here, and there are only 6 weeks remaining until the $5000 raffle drawing! We've sold 125 of the 500 available tickets, so crunch time is here. Your contributions are needed to make the Injury Fund a continued success, so please take a moment to send your contribution today. Contribution incentives: $10 - One Sudco or Galfer Brakes T-Shirt $25 - One Raffle Ticket $50 - Two Raffle Tickets, and a T-Shirt! With any donation, we will add your URL to our Injury Fund Supporters web page. 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Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 06:34:15 2001 From: Scot Kight To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 06:25:01 -0400 unsubscribe From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 08:28:45 2001 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:26:20 -0400 From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: anyone we know ? Last night, channel 4 opened the 11 o'clock news with a tidbit something like: A VA state trooper is in the hospital tonight... 3 motorcyclists were spotted by a Fairfax Co. cop... "riding close together"... HE later said they were riding recklessly - on route 236. A chase ensued... VA state police took over ... biker clocked at 135 mph on the beltway Near the springfield interchange, the VA trooper had a single car accident taking a ramp too fast. Bikers got away, last seen crossing the Wilson Bridge. Riding close together... hmm... Dave -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 08:54:30 2001 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 08:48:38 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" To: sdave@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: anyone we know ? sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > Last night, channel 4 opened the 11 o'clock news with a tidbit > something like: > > A VA state trooper is in the hospital tonight... 3 motorcyclists > were spotted by a Fairfax Co. cop... "riding close together"... HE > later said they were riding recklessly - on route 236. A chase > ensued... VA state police took over ... biker clocked at 135 mph on > the beltway Near the > springfield interchange, the VA trooper had a single car accident > taking a ramp too fast. Bikers got away, last seen crossing the > Wilson Bridge. > > Riding close together... hmm... > > Dave Not me! I don't ride in packs, and a ride a FLH Hawg (FIVE speed). Ain't no way that heavy chugger would hit 135 unless I fed it nitrious and grew really big balls. FLHs are comfy to about 85 and then they get a bit twitchy. Yep, tis squidly season. Last night while snuggling with my Missus I could hear the howl of the sportbikes and smell the testostrone in the air. Oh, wait that scent might have been from me. Snuggling will do that to a guy :-) Bill From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 08:59:09 2001 From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: More older riders crashing Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:00:10 -0400 http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/05/04/older.injuries/index.html Read and discuss! Bruce From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 09:04:28 2001 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:04:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" To: dccycles Subject: Aprilia Crash! Jay and I rec'd a call at about 10:45 last night. Jimmy Itabashi wanted to borrow our trailer. We told him that the trailer was currently hitched to our truck and loaded with Jay's Monster for the track day today at Summit Point. Turns out that Jimmy was in the path of a woman making a left turn in Georgetown! He is fine, most likely a broken collar bone. Jay and I picked up the bike and took it to our house while some friends took Jimmy to the hospital. The bike appears to have mostly cosmetic damage. Jimmy seemed uncomfortable but otherwise fine, it is not the first time he has broken his collarbone. Watch out folks, drivers aren't looking for us nor do they care!! Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 09:10:40 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: RE: anyone we know ? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:09:17 -0400 If it is anyone from the list, I advise you to remain silent! -----Original Message----- From: sdave@XXXXXX [mailto:sdave@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:26 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: anyone we know ? Last night, channel 4 opened the 11 o'clock news with a tidbit something like: A VA state trooper is in the hospital tonight... 3 motorcyclists were spotted by a Fairfax Co. cop... "riding close together"... HE later said they were riding recklessly - on route 236. A chase ensued... VA state police took over ... biker clocked at 135 mph on the beltway Near the springfield interchange, the VA trooper had a single car accident taking a ramp too fast. Bikers got away, last seen crossing the Wilson Bridge. Riding close together... hmm... Dave -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 09:30:37 2001 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:19:42 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Rapp Subject: Re: Aprilia Crash! Glad to hear the injuries aren't too serious. The report reminds me of a friend who lost a relative due to a similar accident 3-4 years ago. The driver sited that the evening sun prevented her from seeing the 2-up H-D. Take Care. Bob '97 VFR (4-sale) '89 Hawk GT At 09:04 AM 5/4/01 -0400, lisa@XXXXXX wrote: >Jay and I rec'd a call at about 10:45 last night. Jimmy Itabashi wanted >to borrow our trailer. We told him that the trailer was currently hitched >to our truck and loaded with Jay's Monster for the track day today at >Summit Point. > >Turns out that Jimmy was in the path of a woman making a left turn in >Georgetown! He is fine, most likely a broken collar bone. Jay and I >picked up the bike and took it to our house while some friends took Jimmy >to the hospital. The bike appears to have mostly cosmetic damage. Jimmy >seemed uncomfortable but otherwise fine, it is not the first time he has >broken his collarbone. > >Watch out folks, drivers aren't looking for us nor do they care!! > >Lisa >'95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 09:56:59 2001 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 06:56:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: More older riders crashing To: Bruce Norton , DC Cycles --- Bruce Norton wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/05/04/older.injuries/index.html > > Read and discuss! RUBs ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 10:13:45 2001 From: eschelzig@XXXXXX To: t_gimer@XXXXXX, bnorton@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: More older riders crashing Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:10:07 -0400 Funny, didn't we read this in the Los Angeles Times a couple of weeks ago? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Gimer [mailto:t_gimer@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:57 AM To: Bruce Norton; DC Cycles Subject: Re: More older riders crashing --- Bruce Norton wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/05/04/older.injuries/index.html > > Read and discuss! RUBs ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 10:17:16 2001 Subject: Re: Aprilia Crash! To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:56:43 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/04/2001 09:57:04 AM I want to thank Jay and Lisa Goddard very much for your help in this situ. I am deeply indebted to you two and it is nice to know I have friends that will bend over backwards to help me out. I just hope that I do not have to return the same favor to you....=) but you know I will if it does happen. If you want to read about the accident in more deatail here is a post I did. http://www.sportbikes.ws/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=712 James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:05:10 2001 From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'jitabashi@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Aprilia Crash! Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:04:54 -0400 You told her $3-4 grand? I hope that was for the bike alone and not the bike AND your shoulder! Wait till those Dr. bills start rolling in. I know you're busted up right now, but you'll need to give some more thought the the legalities of circumventing the insurance companies. Personally I think insurance companies are somewhere just below the contents at the bottom of porta-johns, so don't think I'm cheering for them, but if you've got a loan on your bike (maybe you don't) there may be a requirement, your health insurance company might start asking questions, and most importantly you don't want to end up losing any rights you have. I'm not a litigious person, and I'm not saying to sue her ass off (although every time someone cuts me off like that on my bike & almost causes an accident, I slide a little further toward that position) but I would suggest you at least take advantage of a free first session with a lawyer to make sure you don't end up screwing yourself by trying to be reasonable with her. What if there ends up being permanent damage to you? What if you end up needing months of therapy? Just be careful dude, again I'm not saying you should try to get rich, but don't let her off the hook either. That's just my .02. Big ups to the people that came & helped you. That's what true friends are made of. Get well soon. Matt -----Original Message----- From: jitabashi@XXXXXX [mailto:jitabashi@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:57 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Aprilia Crash! I want to thank Jay and Lisa Goddard very much for your help in this situ. I am deeply indebted to you two and it is nice to know I have friends that will bend over backwards to help me out. I just hope that I do not have to return the same favor to you....=) but you know I will if it does happen. If you want to read about the accident in more deatail here is a post I did. http://www.sportbikes.ws/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=712 James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:12:57 2001 From: "Han Park" To: Subject: Harbor Freight Tire Changer Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:12:31 -0400 Has anyone used the Harbor Freight tire changer? I remember there was some talk about people ordering it a while ago but there was no follow up. han From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:16:06 2001 From: Cedric Bernescut To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: RE: Aprilia Crash! Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:15:34 -0400 James: Hope you heal quickly. Sorry about your accident. Where in Georgetown did it happen? I'm at 30th & M and many days my commute would be assisted by an RPG. Kudo's to Jay and Lisa for helping out. Cedric Bernescut "Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding, 'you're making a scene.'" Homer Simpson I want to thank Jay and Lisa Goddard very much for your help in this situ. I am deeply indebted to you two and it is nice to know I have friends that will bend over backwards to help me out. I just hope that I do not have to return the same favor to you....=) but you know I will if it does happen. If you want to read about the accident in more deatail here is a post I did. http://www.sportbikes.ws/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=712 James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:21:15 2001 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "Han Park" , Subject: RE: Harbor Freight Tire Changer Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:19:49 -0400 Never got the "Motorcycle" portion and returned the rest. Gary Foreman (TL Owners Club) mailto:gary@XXXXXX http://www.tl1000.com -----Original Message----- From: Han Park [mailto:hpark@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:13 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Harbor Freight Tire Changer Has anyone used the Harbor Freight tire changer? I remember there was some talk about people ordering it a while ago but there was no follow up. han From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:30:01 2001 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:29:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitri Pappa Subject: AMA meets WWF To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sorry if this has already been posted: http://geocities.com/ecumike5/sfx/ Dmitri __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:38:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44FcTU01718 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f44FcOT08246; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:38:24 -0400 From: Brian Roach Reply-To: roach@XXXXXX To: Dmitri Pappa , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: AMA meets WWF Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:38:24 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <20010504152958.21670.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20010504152958.21670.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0105041138240A.02231@www.mostlyharmless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Fri, 04 May 2001, Dmitri Pappa wrote: > Sorry if this has already been posted: > > http://geocities.com/ecumike5/sfx/ This is not the AMA... this is a CCS weekend at VIR we were at about a month ago. Still funny as hell though :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:39:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from franklin.uscourts.gov (franklin.uscourts.gov [207.41.14.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44FddU01731 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exchange2.cafc.dcn ([156.132.100.5]) by franklin.uscourts.gov (8.11.0/10.11.0) with ESMTP id f44FdWg28168 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exchange2.cafc.dcn with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:39:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Demello, Jill" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Kawasaki Parts Online? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:39:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Does anyone know where I can order Kawasaki parts online or via mail order? Many thanks. Jill D From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:41:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web511.mail.yahoo.com (web511.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.226]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44Ff9U01751 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010504154107.21697.qmail@web511.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.9.247.2] by web511.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 04 May 2001 08:41:07 PDT Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:41:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Aprilia Crash! To: "lisa@XXXXXX" , dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- "lisa@XXXXXX" wrote: > > Jay and I rec'd a call at about 10:45 last night. Jimmy > Itabashi wanted to borrow our trailer. We told him that > the trailer was currently hitched to our truck and loaded > with Jay's Monster for the track day today at Summit > Point. > > Turns out that Jimmy was in the path of a woman making a > left turn in Georgetown! sounds exactly like my "incident" in spring '96....heading south on wisconsin ave into georgetown; elderly motorist turns left across two lanes of traffic without looking; impact occurs at my left leg; i go airborne and '93 cbr900rr (rip) goes horizontal onto the right curb. damage: broken foot, torn ligaments, separated shoulder, cuts, bruises, PAIN! $7k in property damage $15k in pain and suffering pain is good it's good to hear that james is ok ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 11:58:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ws3.us2.outblaze.com (ws3.us2.outblaze.com [208.184.211.199]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44FwXU02064 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 27519 invoked by uid 1001); 4 May 2001 15:58:31 -0000 Message-ID: <20010504155831.27518.qmail@theglobe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Matthew Patton" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 10:58:30 -0500 Subject: MAW sale thanks for the heads-up on the sale. I picked up a set of tires for $160 on clearance and an RK Gold chain for $66. And a bunch of other things. And free shipping to boot, even on the tires. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 12:00:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fastandwily.com (003.066.021.004.virginia.com [4.21.66.3] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44G0KU02167 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:58:52 -0400 Message-Id: <200105041158.AA50135262@fastandwily.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Scott Luttrell" Reply-To: To: "DC Cycle mailing list" Subject: Re: anyone we know ? X-Mailer: I got bust 4 years ago now for speeding to alud on Rt 7, I gave up after a 30 minute chase at 150 mph and never even made the papers. Three of them and no one broke 135 on the beltway? Sad. Bummer about the cop though Thats the biggest reson I gave up to many people get involved and its your ass if anyone gets hurt bad. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:26:20 -0400 >Last night, channel 4 opened the 11 o'clock news with a tidbit >something like: > > A VA state trooper is in the hospital tonight... 3 motorcyclists >were spotted by a Fairfax Co. cop... "riding close together"... HE >later said they were riding recklessly - on route 236. A chase >ensued... VA state police took over ... biker clocked at 135 mph on >the beltway Near the >springfield interchange, the VA trooper had a single car accident >taking a ramp too fast. Bikers got away, last seen crossing the >Wilson Bridge. > >Riding close together... hmm... > >Dave > > > > >-- >Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! >Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month >Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 > >Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window >Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal > > -- Scott Luttrell Fast & Wily Racing www.fastandwily.com -- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 12:07:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web515.mail.yahoo.com (web515.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.230]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44G73U02258 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:07:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010504160701.23341.qmail@web515.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.9.247.2] by web515.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 04 May 2001 09:07:01 PDT Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:07:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: MAW sale To: Matthew Patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010504155831.27518.qmail@theglobe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Matthew Patton wrote: > thanks for the heads-up on the sale. I picked up a set of > tires for $160 on clearance and an RK Gold chain for $66. > And a bunch of other things. And free shipping to boot, > even on the tires. free shipping is a fair price for MAW's shipping practices free is also a fair price for some of the tires they sell MAW sucks ass, period. just give 'em the opportunity, and they'll show you what they're really made of. ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 12:17:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal.east.saic.com (portal.east.saic.com [198.151.13.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44GHuU02419 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:17:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclmx.saic.com by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 4 May 2001 16:17:56 UT Received: from mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:17:40 -0400 Received: from mcl-its-exbh01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.11]) by mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001050412125719448 ; Fri, 04 May 2001 12:12:57 -0400 Received: by mcl-its-exbh01.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:17:53 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'scott@XXXXXX'" , DC Cycle mailing list Subject: RE: anyone we know ? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:17:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" So what was the result of the bust? Jail time? What else? -----Original Message----- From: Scott Luttrell [mailto:scott@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 11:59 AM To: DC Cycle mailing list Subject: Re: anyone we know ? I got bust 4 years ago now for speeding to alud on Rt 7, I gave up after a 30 minute chase at 150 mph and never even made the papers. Three of them and no one broke 135 on the beltway? Sad. Bummer about the cop though Thats the biggest reson I gave up to many people get involved and its your ass if anyone gets hurt bad. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:26:20 -0400 >Last night, channel 4 opened the 11 o'clock news with a tidbit >something like: > > A VA state trooper is in the hospital tonight... 3 motorcyclists >were spotted by a Fairfax Co. cop... "riding close together"... HE >later said they were riding recklessly - on route 236. A chase >ensued... VA state police took over ... biker clocked at 135 mph on >the beltway Near the >springfield interchange, the VA trooper had a single car accident >taking a ramp too fast. Bikers got away, last seen crossing the >Wilson Bridge. > >Riding close together... hmm... > >Dave > > > > >-- >Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! >Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month >Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 > >Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window >Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal > > -- Scott Luttrell Fast & Wily Racing www.fastandwily.com -- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 12:19:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f19.law3.hotmail.com [209.185.241.19]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44GJhU02439 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:19:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:07:50 -0700 Received: from 64.241.20.167 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 04 May 2001 16:07:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.241.20.167] From: "Razz Man" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kawasaki Parts Online? Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:07:50 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2001 16:07:50.0788 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E500C40:01C0D4B4] www.buykawasaki.com Razz '99 ZX9R '89 LTD454 '86 LTD454 > >Does anyone know where I can order Kawasaki parts online or via mail order? > >Many thanks. > Jill D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 12:32:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f209.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.15.209]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44GWtU02718 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:21:29 -0700 Received: from 166.32.192.143 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 04 May 2001 16:21:29 GMT X-Originating-IP: [166.32.192.143] From: "Rob Keiser" To: demelloj@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kawasaki Parts Online? Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 12:21:29 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2001 16:21:29.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[46787650:01C0D4B6] Jill, You might try: http://www.hondafunmachines.com/ I know them from the VFR list; but trust me, they do sell Kaw stuff as well. Hope this helps. Rob '98 VFR800 >From: "Demello, Jill" >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Kawasaki Parts Online? >Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:39:15 -0400 > >Does anyone know where I can order Kawasaki parts online or via mail order? > >Many thanks. > Jill D _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 12:59:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14005.mail.yahoo.com (web14005.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44GxEU03126 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:59:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010504165901.67609.qmail@web14005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.229.31.23] by web14005.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 04 May 2001 09:59:01 PDT Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Kawasaki Parts Online? To: Razz Man , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii BuyKawasaki.com will let you look at the parts fiche, but they don't accept orders on-line except for accessories. It is handy though to get the part number, then call the dealer and get the right part on order everytime. It also avoids those strange encounters where the dealer wants to know why I'm ording Concours parts for a Ninja 250. Leon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 13:05:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gateway.lcsa.org (root@XXXXXX [204.188.41.222]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44H5YU03301 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs724762 ([192.168.0.229]) by gateway.lcsa.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA02340 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:12:29 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: Subject: Anyone riding to Loudoun Motorsports tomorrow? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:04:11 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010504155831.27518.qmail@theglobe.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal They are having an open house. Was wondering if anyone was going. I live in Winchester where the Apple Blossom festival is going on, hence I'm looking for any reason to get the hell out of Dodge! Gary From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 13:18:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rasmus.futurequest.net (IDENT:qmailr@XXXXXX [63.151.112.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44HIVU03461 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 25109 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 17:18:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dcpiii1000) (64.3.32.57) by motorcyclegearreview.com with SMTP; 4 May 2001 17:18:45 -0000 Message-ID: <008801c0d4bc$ee929d60$39200340@blairdubilier.com> From: "Dave" To: "dcbike" Subject: HOV Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:09:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 As I was riding in to work this morning and taking advantage of the HOV lanes on my motorcycle I got to thinking about a couple of things relating to HOV. Point 1) Why do they let a parent and a child take advantage of HOV? Isn't the ultimate point of HOV to get more cars off the road? Doesn't this kinda defeat the purpose? Shouldn't the law require two licensed adults (or at least of that age) to qualify for HOV? Point 2) HOV's success is due to its failure. The HOV lanes moves faster than the others because there is less traffic on it. When a certain "critical mass" of people start to use HOV lanes it will become just as crowded and slow as the other lanes. So in order for it to be effective HOV must not become successful and draw lots of people to it. We don't want too many people using it. Point 3) I still cant believe that "they" let "us" ride in the HOV lanes. I always feel like its a privilege that at any moment is going to be taken away. Dave From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 13:19:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44HJgU03476 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:19:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.144]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GCT00066MQJ33@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:18:19 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp04.wcomnet.com by dgismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GCT00501MQBFA@XXXXXX>; Fri, 04 May 2001 17:18:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.226]) by dgismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with ESMTP id <0GCT0029HMQ20X@XXXXXX>; Fri, 04 May 2001 17:18:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:17:05 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Kawasaki Parts Online? To: Leon Begeman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3AF2E411.9D4F0092@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20010504165901.67609.qmail@web14005.mail.yahoo.com> Leon Begeman wrote: > > It also avoids those strange > encounters where the dealer wants to know why I'm > ording Concours parts for a Ninja 250. If you can figure out how to put a Connie shaft drive on the 250, let me know. :) -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 13:41:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9706.mail.yahoo.com (web9706.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.241]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44HfTU03826 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:41:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010504174124.56308.qmail@web9706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.44] by web9706.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 04 May 2001 10:41:24 PDT Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: The Rasslin' Racers are making the rounds To: DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Another Urban Legend is born. From the ZRX board: http://pub11.ezboard.com/fzrx1100ownersassociationshootingthebullnonzrxrelatedtopics.showMessage?topicID=1452.topic The site says: "This was at Texas World Speedway on Sunday. LMFAO!!!!!!" Hmmm... Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 13:55:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpiserv2.uu.net (mail.publicintegrity.org [63.72.70.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44HtOU04087 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CPISERV2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:51:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: eschelzig@XXXXXX To: dave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: HOV Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:51:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Point 1) It would be idiotic to not consider children "people" as far as HOV is concerned. So you think a minivan full of junior high school soccer players shouldn't be allowed in the lanes? What is it about having a drivers license that make you more "high occupancy" than others? Point 2) If more people took advantage of HOV lanes then there would be less cars on the road. Hence, less traffic. Point 3) Motorcycles do not cause traffic, so why should they have to suffer by it? What's more, Motorcycles in the DC area should also be permitted to lane split like they do in California. This way, more people would ride bikes, which means less cars, which means less traffic. So there! :) Bests, Erik 01 Klr650 -----Original Message----- From: Dave [mailto:dave@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:09 PM To: dcbike Subject: HOV As I was riding in to work this morning and taking advantage of the HOV lanes on my motorcycle I got to thinking about a couple of things relating to HOV. Point 1) Why do they let a parent and a child take advantage of HOV? Isn't the ultimate point of HOV to get more cars off the road? Doesn't this kinda defeat the purpose? Shouldn't the law require two licensed adults (or at least of that age) to qualify for HOV? Point 2) HOV's success is due to its failure. The HOV lanes moves faster than the others because there is less traffic on it. When a certain "critical mass" of people start to use HOV lanes it will become just as crowded and slow as the other lanes. So in order for it to be effective HOV must not become successful and draw lots of people to it. We don't want too many people using it. Point 3) I still cant believe that "they" let "us" ride in the HOV lanes. I always feel like its a privilege that at any moment is going to be taken away. Dave From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 14:00:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailbox.office.aol.com (x98A3A2BB.pix.aol.com [152.163.162.187]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44I0QU04258 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nawt.office.aol.com (nawt.office.aol.com [10.0.31.252]) by mailbox.office.aol.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA27104 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:00:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (cerberus@localhost) by nawt.office.aol.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f44I4Lm12979 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:04:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nawt.office.aol.com: cerberus owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:04:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Paper X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Recommendations for Summer jacket? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII So, my HJC super-thick winter riding jacket is, uhh, a little toasty these days. Recommendations for a summer riding jacket? -dave -- Dave Paper AOL Network Operations cerberus@XXXXXX MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced --Jay It's no coincidence that people who blindly rely on computers and drugs are both called "users". --Unknown From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 14:04:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gsfc.nasa.gov (funhouse.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.254.140]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44I3tU04272 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sunset.gsfc.nasa.gov (sunset.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.221.159]) by gsfc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15065; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:03:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010504135649.02218d90@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: rrapp@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:01:13 -0400 To: "Dave" , "dcbike" From: Bob Rapp Subject: Re: HOV In-Reply-To: <008801c0d4bc$ee929d60$39200340@blairdubilier.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:09 PM 5/4/01 -0400, Dave wrote: >Point 3) I still cant believe that "they" let "us" ride in the HOV lanes. I >always feel like its a privilege that at any moment is going to be taken >away. I look at it this way; if everyone rode a motorcycle, especially all those solo cage-drivers, our congestion whoas would probably be cut in half! On the other hand HOVs can be dangerous on a bike (cars suddenly pulling into the lane constantly). I use them but don't abuse them. Bob '97 VFR (4-sale) '89 Hawk GT From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 14:05:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9705.mail.yahoo.com (web9705.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.143]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44I4vU04275 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010504180454.4653.qmail@web9705.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.44] by web9705.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 04 May 2001 11:04:54 PDT Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:04:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: RE: The Rasslin' Racers are making the rounds To: DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oops. Never mind. A bunch of people corrected the guy. He was convinced that it was Texas, though, and he did sound quite sure of himself. No, I don't have a ZRX either. But I usedta have a KZ1000. :) Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 14:09:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44I95U04379 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:09:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp02.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.142]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GCT00038P2S4I@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:08:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp02.wcomnet.com by dgismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42263) with SMTP id <0GCT00801P2Q6F@XXXXXX>; Fri, 04 May 2001 18:08:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.226]) by dgismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42263) with ESMTP id <0GCT006A3P2CM3@XXXXXX>; Fri, 04 May 2001 18:08:37 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:07:39 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: HOV To: eschelzig@XXXXXX Cc: dave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3AF2EFEB.E9071DC8@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: eschelzig@XXXXXX wrote: > Point 2) If more people took advantage of HOV lanes then there would be > less cars on the road. Hence, less traffic. Until people realize that traffic isn't so bad here anymore, and relocate to the area. Hence, more traffic. "If you build it, we will still choke it with traffic" -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 14:10:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rasmus.futurequest.net (IDENT:qmailr@XXXXXX [63.151.112.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44IA5U04385 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:10:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 9725 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 18:10:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dcpiii1000) (64.3.32.57) by motorcyclegearreview.com with SMTP; 4 May 2001 18:10:22 -0000 Message-ID: <009a01c0d4c4$24d6a860$39200340@blairdubilier.com> From: "Dave" To: , References: Subject: Re: HOV Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:00:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 > Point 1) It would be idiotic to not consider children "people" as far as > HOV is concerned. So you think a minivan full of junior high school soccer > players shouldn't be allowed in the lanes? What is it about having a > drivers license that make you more "high occupancy" than others? I dont disagree that a minivan full of junior high shool soccer players constitutes a High Occupentcy Vehicle.That is true by definition, but I assume that the point of an HOV policy is to lessen the number of cars on the road. How is a parent and a single child contributing to that goal? Unless Im mistaken that its not the goal of HOV. > > Point 2) If more people took advantage of HOV lanes then there would be > less cars on the road. Hence, less traffic. One of the selling points is to take advantage of HOV and get there faster and not sit in traffic. If everyone started taking advantage of HOV then sure there would be less traffic as you say and perhaps all the lanes would move at the same pace. If that did happen then what would keep people using HOV and the inconvience of carpooling. Why should I carpool so that everyone elses can enjoy the benifits of less traffic? I doubt the "for the good of the enivronment" arguement would work, because it sure doesnt now. > > Point 3) Motorcycles do not cause traffic, so why should they have to > suffer by it? What's more, Motorcycles in the DC area should also be > permitted to lane split like they do in California. This way, more people > would ride bikes, which means less cars, which means less traffic. Hey, I agree I just cant believe the masses in their cages allow us to do it. I dont know what influence the AMA had there. Dave From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 14:13:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44IDMU04469 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:13:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:13:24 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E45F@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: RE: HOV Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:13:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Point 3) I still cant believe that "they" let "us" ride in the HOV lanes. I always feel like its a privilege that at any moment is going to be taken away. Dave SHHHHH !! WHATAREYOUDOINFERCRYINOULOUD ??? It's a secret. :) I take 66 in every morning from Annandale and it takes me twice as long to go 1 1/2 miles from home to I-66 as it does to do the remaining 15 miles into Georgetown. I have "this friend" that does 75 mph the whole way. Not me never. This week is my first week commuting back on the bike. Before bike: ~$2.00 gas to MetroRail parking lot $2.25 MetroRail parking fee $2.10 Metro Fare (each way) $8.45 total/day After bike: $1.25 gas to work/day $0.0 parking (unused corner of garage) $0.0 Metro fare $1.25 total/day Of course the extra cost of maintenance, insurance, etc negate the savings, but the added benefits (psychological, etc.) more than make up for it. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 14:22:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rasmus.futurequest.net (IDENT:qmailr@XXXXXX [63.151.112.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44IMeU04652 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:22:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 13631 invoked from network); 4 May 2001 18:22:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO dcpiii1000) (64.3.32.57) by motorcyclegearreview.com with SMTP; 4 May 2001 18:22:58 -0000 Message-ID: <00c701c0d4c5$e72ff6e0$39200340@blairdubilier.com> From: "Dave" To: "Dave Paper" , References: Subject: Re: Recommendations for Summer jacket? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:13:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Check out http://www.motorcyclegearreview.com dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Paper" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: Recommendations for Summer jacket? > > So, my HJC super-thick winter riding jacket is, uhh, a little toasty these > days. > > Recommendations for a summer riding jacket? > > -dave > > -- > Dave Paper AOL Network Operations cerberus@XXXXXX > MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced --Jay > It's no coincidence that people who blindly rely on computers and drugs > are both called "users". --Unknown > > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 14:41:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal.east.saic.com (portal.east.saic.com [198.151.13.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f44IfkU04948 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:41:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclmx.saic.com by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 4 May 2001 18:41:46 UT Received: from mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:41:34 -0400 Received: from mcl-its-exbh01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.11]) by mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001050414365220653 for ; Fri, 04 May 2001 14:36:52 -0400 Received: by mcl-its-exbh01.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:41:47 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." 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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAA== ------_=_NextPart_000_01C0D4C9.D6CE6760-- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 14:46:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44IkrU05105 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:46:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-41-10.s264.tnt1.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.41.10] helo=palladio) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14vkbK-0004Db-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 04 May 2001 14:46:51 -0400 Message-ID: <002101c0d4ca$eeb697c0$bb82fea9@palladio> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" References: <008801c0d4bc$ee929d60$39200340@blairdubilier.com> Subject: Re: HOV Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:49:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave > Point 3) I still cant believe that "they" let "us" ride in the HOV lanes. I > always feel like its a privilege that at any moment is going to be taken > away. > > Dave Motorcycles in HOV lanes: not just a good idea, it's the law. Federal law to be exact. Virginia bureaucrats have already tried, Dave. Once upon a time VDOT fought hard to ban MCs from the HOV lanes, only to get slapped down by the feds after their own study proved them wrong about MC safety in HOV lanes. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F 91 CB750 (sold) http://users.erols.com/pawilson From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 15:19:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f264.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.142]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44JJIU05632 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:07:54 -0700 Received: from 204.71.174.14 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 04 May 2001 19:07:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [204.71.174.14] From: "Perry Coleman" To: cerberus@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Recommendations for Summer jacket? Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 15:07:54 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2001 19:07:54.0311 (UTC) FILETIME=[85B6D570:01C0D4CD] I like my Teknic perf'ed leather jacket. It's still hot when not moving, but stays pretty cool with any airflow. It came with a snap-in vest lining for those cool mornings or evenings and it was pretty cheap at Cycle Accessory Discounters in Gaithersburg. I think he still carries them. Perry >From: Dave Paper To: Subject: Recommendations for Summer jacket? Date: Fri, >4 May 2001 14:04:21 -0400 (EDT) > > >So, my HJC super-thick winter riding jacket is, uhh, a little toasty these >days. > >Recommendations for a summer riding jacket? > >-dave > >-- >Dave Paper AOL Network Operations cerberus@XXXXXX MCSE = Must Consult >Someone Experienced --Jay It's no coincidence that people who blindly rely >on computers and drugs are both called "users". --Unknown > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 15:30:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from worldbank.org (wbln0014.worldbank.org [138.220.29.7]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44JUrU05869 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:30:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WBLN0014.worldbank.org (wbln0014.worldbank.org) by worldbank.org (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:29:50 -0400 Subject: Aprilia Crash THANK YOU. To: Dc-Cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a (Intl) 23 November 1999 Message-ID: From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:20:46 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/04/2001 03:29:50 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thank you all for the "get wells" and advice. I really appreciate it, make me feel like a part of a community. =) If I left anyone of this list, please forgive me I am a bit loopy from the percocet....lol Matthew: Yes that was a visual estimate for the bike alone. I am not a litigous person either and as long as the bike gets fixed and I mend well then all is good by me. I f I do not then we shall see what happens. Tom: No I live in Virginia, but if she tries to back out or fluff on this deal then you will be haering from me. I do appreciate the offer and hope I do not need to use it. Cedric: It happened at Banks st. and M st. Right by Kinkos and the old Little Tavern. Do you mind me asking what an RPG is? James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 17:23:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.141]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44LMvU07629 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:22:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj117103a ([24.6.106.133]) by femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010504212238.GJQX12893.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj117103a> for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:22:38 -0700 Message-ID: <004d01c0d4da$06463f80$8501a8c0@Home> Reply-To: "James Reazor" From: "James Reazor" To: References: <20010504165901.67609.qmail@web14005.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kawasaki Parts Online? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:37:22 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 So why ARE you buying Connie parts for a Ninja 250? -James '00 SV650 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leon Begeman" To: "Razz Man" ; Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:59 PM Subject: Re: Kawasaki Parts Online? > BuyKawasaki.com will let you look at the parts fiche, > but they don't accept orders on-line except for > accessories. It is handy though to get the part > number, then call the dealer and get the right part on > order everytime. It also avoids those strange > encounters where the dealer wants to know why I'm > ording Concours parts for a Ninja 250. > > Leon. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 17:34:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44LY5U07820 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXJKdkY2/xoz6m8DTwbxLtzaTnSR1yvO1iQ=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id F4MJEABK; Fri, 04 May 2001 17:33:17 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:30:22 -0400 Subject: MARRC Track Day Message-ID: <20010504.173207.-570259.7.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_19e7.16c8.1b8c X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 8-6,8-16,25-32767 From: Tom Fitzpatrick This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_19e7.16c8.1b8c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a great way to get track time, and limber up for the race weekend. Please see below. Tom ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Roger Lyle" Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:59:39 -0400 Subject: MARRC Track Day The MARRC Track Day on Friday, May 11 is open to all racers. Cost is $120, which includes a one year membership in MARRC. If you are a current member, deduct $20. At this point, pack your gear and come on out to Summit Point Raceway. No pre-registration is needed. Everyone is welcome. Gates open at 7 am Friday. No Thursday night camping. The MARRC Safety Crew will be watching the racers all 3 days and the MARRC Roadracing School and MARRC Race Emergency School will be training new racers and corner marshals on Saturday May 12. CCS racing on Saturday and Mother's Day Sunday. 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This is a great way to get track time, and limber up for the race=20 weekend.  Please see below.

Tom
 
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From: "Roger Lyle" <rogerlyle@XXXXXX>
Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:59:39 -0400
Subject: MARRC Track Day
 
The MARRC Track Day on Friday, May 11 is = open to=20 all racers. Cost is $120, which includes a one year membership in MARRC. If= you=20 are a current member, deduct $20. At this point, pack your gear and come on= out=20 to Summit Point Raceway. No pre-registration is needed. Everyone is welcome= .=20 Gates open at 7 am Friday. No Thursday night camping. The MARRC Safety Crew= will=20 be watching the racers all 3 days and the MARRC Roadracing School and = MARRC=20 Race Emergency School will be training new racers and corner marshals = on=20 Saturday May 12. CCS racing on Saturday and Mother's Day Sunday. Remember = Mom=20 and call her before
----__JNP_000_19e7.16c8.1b8c-- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 17:35:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.141]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44LZ8U07899 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:35:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj117103a ([24.6.106.133]) by femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010504213459.GRLD12893.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj117103a> for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:34:59 -0700 Message-ID: <006501c0d4db$bbf38940$8501a8c0@Home> Reply-To: "James Reazor" From: "James Reazor" To: References: Subject: Re: Recommendations for Summer jacket? Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:49:37 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I've got a perfed First Gear Pilot. Once you hit @ 20mph in feels like you're riding in a T-shirt. -James '00 SV650 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Paper" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: Recommendations for Summer jacket? > > So, my HJC super-thick winter riding jacket is, uhh, a little toasty these > days. > > Recommendations for a summer riding jacket? > > -dave > > -- > Dave Paper AOL Network Operations cerberus@XXXXXX > MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced --Jay > It's no coincidence that people who blindly rely on computers and drugs > are both called "users". --Unknown > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 17:35:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r16.mx.aol.com (imo-r16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44LZXU07909 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from EmergeOut@XXXXXX by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.8d.622ba66 (17378) for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:35:17 -0400 (EDT) From: EmergeOut@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8d.622ba66.28247a94@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:35:16 EDT Subject: Suzuki SV650S To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_8d.622ba66.28247a94_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 --part1_8d.622ba66.28247a94_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fellow Riders, Any one have an opinion on the Suzuki SV650S? Need4Speed......zoom...lets fly! --part1_8d.622ba66.28247a94_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fellow Riders, Any one have an opinion on the Suzuki SV650S?

Need4Speed......zoom...lets fly! --part1_8d.622ba66.28247a94_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 18:14:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44MEDU08451 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-57-55.s309.tnt2.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.57.55] helo=c9rnf01) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14vnpq-00016s-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 04 May 2001 18:14:02 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01c0d4e7$620061e0$37392c42@c9rnf01> From: "Todd Peer" To: References: <200105032301.f43N1LC15443@dirty.meretrix.com> Subject: WV RT 72 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:13:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:11:09 EDT Subject: WV RT 72 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anybody ever ridden West Virginia RT 72 off US 219 between Parsons and Macomber. supposed to be moe twisted than Deals Gap. I might get a chance to check it out this week end. If it lives up to expectations , I'll report. Bob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 72 is an ok road. Very twisty, but not fast like Deals Gap 129. It is a narrow road that merits a double-yellow ribbon in only a few places. Someone mentioned that this was an old coal truck road...no way. Trucks would never make it through this road (at least from Dryfork to Hambleton). The corners are toomany and too tight. One thing you will note (especially now, so early in spring) is all the little gravel on the road (for snow traction and kicked up by cars). Nevertheless, this is a fun road. Are you still riding the CB750? That's a good bike for this road. My ST is way too heavy for any real fun. My VTR is way to powerful for any real fun too (sounds odd I know). Your CB or a light VF500 EX500 is a good choice. Be sure to stop in Hambleton and have a Coke. Help the economy over that way. It ain't good. Todd From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 18:40:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m06.mx.aol.com (imo-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.161]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44MejU08845 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:40:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MJordan666@XXXXXX by imo-m06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.d.1409dc4e (17085) for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:39:45 -0400 (EDT) From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:39:44 EDT Subject: Re: More older riders crashing To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d.1409dc4e.282489b0_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10512 --part1_d.1409dc4e.282489b0_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/05/04/older.injuries/index.html >> >> Read and discuss! >RUBs And BABs (Born Again Bikers) At first, I thought that they were talking about me: "Victims of motorcycle crashes are increasingly likely to be older people riding large motorcycles on rural roads" They they started talking about the devil rum factor... Drunk cruiser riders - watch for them!! Michael J. --part1_d.1409dc4e.282489b0_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/05/04/older.injuries/index.html
>>
>> Read and discuss!

>RUBs

And BABs (Born Again Bikers)

At first, I thought that they were talking about me: "Victims of motorcycle
crashes are increasingly likely to be older people riding large motorcycles
on rural roads"

They they started talking about the devil rum factor...

Drunk cruiser riders - watch for them!!

Michael J.






--part1_d.1409dc4e.282489b0_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 18:57:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r12.mx.aol.com (imo-r12.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.66]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44MvSU09175 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:57:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MJordan666@XXXXXX by imo-r12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.d2.6193f84 (17085) for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 18:57:10 -0400 (EDT) From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:57:09 EDT Subject: Re: Suzuki SV650S To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d2.6193f84.28248dc5_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10512 --part1_d2.6193f84.28248dc5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/4/2001 17:37:17 Eastern Daylight Time, EmergeOut@XXXXXX writes: >Fellow Riders, Any one have an opinion on the Suzuki SV650S? Opinions? Us? Heaven forbid! Michael J. --part1_d2.6193f84.28248dc5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/4/2001 17:37:17 Eastern Daylight Time, EmergeOut@XXXXXX
writes:

>Fellow Riders, Any one have an opinion on the Suzuki SV650S?

Opinions?

Us?

Heaven forbid!

Michael J.

--part1_d2.6193f84.28248dc5_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 19:05:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from idalee.loudoun.com (idalee.loudoun.com [208.232.169.21]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f44N52U09380 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:05:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from loudoun.com (va-sterlingsb1-102.strgva.adelphia.net [216.174.54.102]) by idalee.loudoun.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f44N4KD19475 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 19:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3AF3359A.DFB65BA9@loudoun.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 19:04:59 -0400 From: Randy and Julie Moran Reply-To: jmoran@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Suzuki SV650S References: <8d.622ba66.28247a94@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The SV650, in any of its incarnations (faired or unfaired) is one of the coolest bikes you will ever ride. Currently, I own an unfaired 2000 and, prior to my retirement at the end of last season, I raced an SV with WERA. Cheap, fun, fast, and well-put together pretty much sums up the SV. I'd be happy to let you ride mine if you would like to see for yourself. Randy Moran http://www.geocities.com/rajmoran EmergeOut@XXXXXX wrote: > Fellow Riders, Any one have an opinion on the Suzuki SV650S? > > Need4Speed......zoom...lets fly! From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 20:07:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.141]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f45071U10321 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 20:07:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WORKSTATION ([24.13.248.105]) by femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010505000658.JYIH12893.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@WORKSTATION>; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:06:58 -0700 Message-ID: <002901c0d4f7$717a1250$0500a8c0@WORKSTATION> From: "Richard L. Casale" To: "Dave" , "dcbike" References: <008801c0d4bc$ee929d60$39200340@blairdubilier.com> Subject: Re: HOV Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:07:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 I've read all of the messages in this tread and I have to say this: 1) I totally agree that the idea of HOV is to spread the load of cars accross the local traffic and the express lanes. It would be extremely difficult to enforce the law if you had to pull everyone over with occupance that you thought were of the non-driving age. It's easier, and more realistic, for the police to count heads at a distance and pull over based on that--period. 2) HOV lanes were not designed for areas that are rapidly expanding, there comes a point when you reach saturation--like you say. HOV lanes, by design, are intended for areas that have a fairly consistant flow of traffic. Since car pooling is more environmentally friendly, this attitude is rewarded with access to less crowded lanes and faster commuting into the city. 3) Motorcycles are extremely environmentally friendly in that they take up less space, consume less gas per/mile and are generally not responsible for car accidenets and congestion so they are also rewarded with less traffic and a more timely ride. The bottom line is that there is no plan that is perfect, and in many case, especially around D.C., the rate of local grouth can outpace the government's ability aquire funds and plan to adjust to the increases in local traffic. I ride every day, rain, sleet, and even in the snow, from Alexandria into D.C (by Union Station) and i can tell you that not only has the HOV been more crouded, but the driving skills of it's occupance have lessened. Everyone's out for themselves and could care less for their fellow motorist--no matter what they drive/ride in/on. Taffic wouldn't be such a problem if people knew how to drive, and drive well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" To: "dcbike" Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:09 PM Subject: HOV > As I was riding in to work this morning and taking advantage of the HOV > lanes on my motorcycle I got to thinking about a couple of things relating > to HOV. > > Point 1) Why do they let a parent and a child take advantage of HOV? Isn't > the ultimate point of HOV to get more cars off the road? Doesn't this kinda > defeat the purpose? Shouldn't the law require two licensed adults (or at > least of that age) to qualify for HOV? > > Point 2) HOV's success is due to its failure. The HOV lanes moves faster > than the others because there is less traffic on it. When a certain > "critical mass" of people start to use HOV lanes it will become just as > crowded and slow as the other lanes. So in order for it to be effective HOV > must not become successful and draw lots of people to it. We don't want too > many people using it. > > Point 3) I still cant believe that "they" let "us" ride in the HOV lanes. I > always feel like its a privilege that at any moment is going to be taken > away. > > Dave > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 23:19:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp6ve.mailsrvcs.net (smtp6vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.27]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f453JEU13234 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 23:19:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.tennisbooks.com (adsl-151-200-19-35.dc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp6ve.mailsrvcs.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA16790263 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 03:23:34 GMT Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010504231046.00aa0830@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 23:16:18 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Aprilia Crash! In-Reply-To: <200105042300.f44N03E09223@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed With that much damage and bodily injury, hope you reported it to the police. It's probably required by law. The woman's "off the insurance" plea should not be possible in this case. At least talk to your own insurance company, fast. Get well soon. -- Larry 2001 Aprilia Mille SL Falco 1984 Interceptor 500 (small emergency backup bike) 2001 Suzuki GS500 (reliable small emergency backup bike to the main small emergency backup bike) From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 23:37:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10507.mail.yahoo.com (web10507.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f453awU13543 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 23:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010505033656.82262.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.147.78.216] by web10507.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 04 May 2001 20:36:56 PDT Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:36:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Suzookus Maximus Subject: re: Recommendations for Summer jacket? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >From: Dave Paper To: Subject: Recommendations for Summer jacket? Date: Fri, >4 May 2001 14:04:21 -0400 (EDT) > > >So, my HJC super-thick winter riding jacket is, uhh, a little toasty these >days. > >Recommendations for a summer riding jacket? > >-dave I saw this mesh 'jacket' at Loudoun Motorsport. Think it was made by Joe Rocket. Was basically, armor held together by a cloth or codura mesh. Looked like it would be great in 80+ degree weather. -jeff ===== ->bike: '00 GSX-R750 ->email: suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX ->web: http://profiles.yahoo.com/suzookusmaximus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 4 23:49:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10501.mail.yahoo.com (web10501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f453nFU13709 for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 23:49:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010505034913.44193.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.147.78.216] by web10501.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 04 May 2001 20:49:13 PDT Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Suzookus Maximus Subject: Re: HOV To: DC Cycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is a kind of cool rule for HOV that is in effect for NoVA: "Clean special fuel vehicles such as electric cars and those powered by natural gas and bearing alternative fuels license plates, are permitted to use HOV lanes until July 1, 2004. "Hybrid" vehicles powered by electricity and gas do qualify to use the HOV lanes according to the Department of Motor Vehicles." http://www.vdot.state.va.us/hov/N.Virginia/nvarules.html I'm guessing motorcycles are exempted because of their higher fuel efficiency too. [?] -jeff ===== ->bike: '00 GSX-R750 ->email: suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX ->web: http://profiles.yahoo.com/suzookusmaximus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Sat May 5 01:20:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.141]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f455KOU15122 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 01:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj117103a ([24.6.106.133]) by femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010505052012.PNDR12893.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj117103a> for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:20:12 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01c0d51b$fbe38880$8501a8c0@Home> Reply-To: "James Reazor" From: "James Reazor" To: References: <8d.622ba66.28247a94@aol.com> <3AF3359A.DFB65BA9@loudoun.com> Subject: Re: Suzuki SV650S Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 00:29:32 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 I'll second that recommendation. I also ride a '00 minus the body work. It's not the biggest, fastest. lightest or best handling bike I've ever ridden but it balances everything so well that it just may be the most fun. It's also a great commuter and light duty tourer. I'm good for 500 to 600 mile days on it. I plan on trying some longer rides this summer so we'll see how it holds up there. Check out http://www.svrider.com for more info. -James '00 SV650 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy and Julie Moran" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Suzuki SV650S > The SV650, in any of its incarnations (faired or unfaired) is one of the > coolest bikes you will ever ride. Currently, I own an unfaired 2000 and, > prior to my retirement at the end of last season, I raced an SV with > WERA. Cheap, fun, fast, and well-put together pretty much sums up the > SV. I'd be happy to let you ride mine if you would like to see for > yourself. > > Randy Moran > http://www.geocities.com/rajmoran > > > EmergeOut@XXXXXX wrote: > > > Fellow Riders, Any one have an opinion on the Suzuki SV650S? > > > > Need4Speed......zoom...lets fly! > From dc-cycles-request Sat May 5 01:29:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.141]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f455T1U15211 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 01:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj117103a ([24.6.106.133]) by femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010505052851.PRCU12893.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj117103a> for ; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:28:51 -0700 Message-ID: <001d01c0d51d$2da17de0$8501a8c0@Home> Reply-To: "James Reazor" From: "James Reazor" To: References: <20010505033656.82262.qmail@web10507.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Recommendations for Summer jacket? Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 00:38:05 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 That's the Joe Rocket Phoenix. It's very inexpensive (relatively speaking of course). I think it runs around $160 maybe $180. If it had been around last year when I bought my perffed leather I would have seriously considered going that way and saved quite a few bucks. -James '00 SV650 > I saw this mesh 'jacket' at Loudoun Motorsport. Think > it was made by Joe Rocket. Was basically, armor held > together by a cloth or codura mesh. Looked like it > would be great in 80+ degree weather. > > -jeff > > > > ===== > ->bike: '00 GSX-R750 > ->email: suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX > ->web: http://profiles.yahoo.com/suzookusmaximus > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Sat May 5 08:06:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f45C6BU24357 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 08:06:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXJKdkY2/xoz6LfE9CFflUYZPEL5m1o8kbA=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id F4N4BUL8; Sat, 05 May 2001 08:05:46 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 08:05:04 -0400 Subject: Kawasaki Parts Message-ID: <20010505.080505.-262657.6.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-3,5,7,9 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Rick at Fast Lane Cycles can get OEM Kawasaki (and other) parts. Give him a call or an e-mail and see what he can do for you. Tom Fitzpatrick CCS#80'6 (www.celticracing.com) Sponsors: *****************Fast Lane Cycles - fastlanecycles@XXXXXX (703)818-8890 (www.fastlanecycles.com)*************** *Barnacle Bill's Racing Leathers - barnacle@XXXXXX (www.racingleather.com) *A.F.S. Contractor Inc.-Home Insurance Recovery Specialist (www.unitedwebuild.com/afs.html) *Janet Bell TAX Preparation, Accounting and Consulting (belljan@XXXXXX) From dc-cycles-request Sat May 5 08:43:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f45ChrU24890 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 08:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-239.patriot.net [209.249.180.239]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f45Chi707903; Sat, 5 May 2001 08:43:45 -0400 Message-ID: <3AF3F425.4106C004@patriot.net> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 08:37:57 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Suzookus Maximus CC: DC Cycles List Subject: Re: HOV References: <20010505034913.44193.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Suzookus Maximus wrote: > This is a kind of cool rule for HOV that is in effect > for NoVA: > > "Clean special fuel vehicles such as electric cars and > those powered by natural gas and bearing alternative > fuels license plates, are permitted to use HOV lanes > until July 1, 2004. "Hybrid" vehicles powered by > electricity and gas do qualify to use the HOV lanes > according to the Department of Motor Vehicles." A rebel with a cause that worked! Don't know his name, but a guy with a Honda hybrid used HOV, got tickets out the whazzoo, and fought them in court with fuel milage per person as a defense. Apparently, he won, and the response from the DMV to correct their error was quick. Took the DMV and VDOT years before they let bikes on HOV. Bill From dc-cycles-request Sat May 5 09:46:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f45Dk1U25754 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 09:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f45DjxT10519 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 09:45:59 -0400 From: Brian Roach Reply-To: roach@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Off Topic: Home for sale Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 09:45:59 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0105050945590C.02231@www.mostlyharmless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hey all, It occured to me that I might post this here before I list my house on the market. Since Laura and I are moving to DE, I'm going to be seliing my house at some point in the next couple months. If anyone here, or someone they know is looking for a large townhouse close to D.C., please feel free to contact me... ~2600sqft townhome in Alexandria End unit 3 bdr + den 2.5 bath w/roughout for third full finished basement 2.5 car garage (you can fit a LOT in here, I can vouch/demonstrate :) ) The house is 1 + 1/2 years old, < 1 mile from 395 (edsal rd), 1.5 mile from van dorn metro, aprox 5 miles from Old Town Alex. Hardwood floors in kitchen and family room w/gas fireplace. Gourmet kitchen (double oven, gas genair range, corian, etc). House is actually a 'zero property line' home with no common wall (1' enclosed gap between homes w/firewall) - you cannot hear the neighbors (and you can crank a home theater system or stereo without problems!). 10' vaulted ceilings on main floor, 12' cathedral ceiling in master bdr. TONS of natural light - there are 27 windows on two floors. Bath in master bdr has jacusi whirlpool, double vanity, separate shower, watercloset with door. Laundry on third floor. Natural gas furnace and hot water heater, cental AC. House is pre-wired for audio, video, phone, and cat-5 ethernet. Back yard is fenced. Neighborhood is built next to 82 acre wildlife refuge with nature trails, etc. It is a planned community with no through traffic. Tennis courts, pool, clubhouse, etc. When I list this home, it will probably go on the market around $399k. The house two doors down, which is an interior unit, went on the market this week at that price. The end unit across the street (same model as mine) listed for $390 last July. If someone here or someone referred from here were to be interested, I would be willing to cut the selling price depending on the closing costs (using agents in this area costs you a pretty penny, about 6% of gross between listing and selling agent ... Makes no diff to me who gets that money - buyer or agent(s)). So... if I don't have to pay agents, the house comes down to $380k, I'm happy, the buyer gets a great deal for this area. Thanks, and I hope the OffTopic doesn't offend anyone :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Sat May 5 12:39:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp4ve.mailsrvcs.net (smtp4vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.25]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f45Gd4U28263 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 12:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.tennisbooks.com (adsl-151-200-19-35.dc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp4ve.mailsrvcs.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA27116657; Sat, 5 May 2001 16:56:50 GMT Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010505123055.00a9c6c0@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 12:35:30 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Aprilia Falco and Helibars In-Reply-To: <200105042300.f44N03E09223@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed The Helibars Web site offers Helibars for the 2000-2001 RSV and RSVR. Does anyone know if these would fit cleanly on the Falco? Has anyone done this? Thanks -- Larry 2001 Aprilia Mille SL Falco 1984 Interceptor 500 (small emergency backup bike) 2001 Suzuki GS500 (dependable small emergency backup bike to the small emergency backup bike) From dc-cycles-request Sat May 5 17:11:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rmx460-mta.mail.com (rmx460-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.47]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f45LB2U02292 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 17:11:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web657-ec (web657-ec.mail.com [165.251.32.149]) by rmx460-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA20043 for ; Sat, 5 May 2001 17:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <384380582.989097061005.JavaMail.root@web657-ec> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 17:11:00 -0400 (EDT) From: G Hub To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Thailand Motorcycle Scene Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 209.64.117.206 Just returned from 2 days in Thailand and had to report on the motorcycle activity. In Bangkok, the ratio of motorcycles to cars is about 1 in 3. Lane splitting and filtering at stop lights is common. Very funny to see a group of 50 125cc 2 strokes accelerating at the change of a light after a traffic stop. Dodging in and out of cars, some riders are more aggressive than others. Like being in the middle of the start of a superbike race when they drop the flag. Most of the bikes are Hondas. Harleys are well known,but never seen. They cost about 1 million baht (the same price as here). The best part is seeing the young Thai girls in short skirts riding side saddle as passengers. More on that at bike night. Tuk Tuks were also interesting. They are open air 3 wheelers with handle bars, a twist throttle, foot brake, stick shift, a couple of bench seats, and a top used as taxis. 1000cc engines running on LPG. Very noisy. Quick but enjoyable trip. Gerald Ducati ST4 ----------------------------------------------- FREE! 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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0D633.505E3000-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 6 16:39:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mongoose.slip.net (www2.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f46Kd7O18665 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 16:39:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.slip.net ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 14wVGK-0003f3-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sun, 06 May 2001 13:36:16 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 13:38:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: FW: FW: Biker (No Virus - Niv) In-Reply-To: <001001c0d66d$fcbd0800$3e00000a@darwin.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Looks more like a pilot then a biker. But then we're all frustrated pilots anyways. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 6 18:47:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smgt.net (59-90-112-64-user.darwin.net [64.112.90.59] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f46MlGO20560 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 18:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 2g0up [64.44.97.121] by smgt.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id A45524200F8; Sun, 06 May 2001 18:46:45 -0400 From: "Ahalan" To: "dc-cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: RE: FW: FW: Biker (No Virus - Niv) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 18:46:44 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c0d697$92ca2160$3e00000a@darwin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20010506174659.03752260@mail.troutman.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 oops...meant to send it to DC-Cycles2 From dc-cycles-request Sun May 6 20:03:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9604.mail.yahoo.com (web9604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.183]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4703tO21809 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 20:03:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010507000351.93128.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.140.103.81] by web9604.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 06 May 2001 17:03:51 PDT Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 17:03:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Reinhardt Subject: Bike Choice? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am seriously considering working as a motorcycle courier in the DC area this summer. As a college student, I can't think of a better gig than to get paid to ride around all day. However, I would rather not sacrifice my low mileage, good condition, CBR F1 to the task. Instead I'm looking at getting a small-medium displacement standard 1980s bike from one of the Big Four. Any suggestions? Possibilities I've thought of include the Honda Nighthawk 450, Yamaha Maxim 400, Suzuki GS 425, Kawasaki 440 LTD, Honda CX 500 (shaftie) etc ... are there any models I should definitely stay away from? Also, as a side note, if anyone is looking for a college intern for the summer, I would definitely also be open to that idea. Thanks, Adam Reinhardt 1989 CBR 600F __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Sun May 6 20:15:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f470FsO22036 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 20:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p57.a1.du.radix.net [207.192.129.57]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA17426; Sun, 6 May 2001 20:15:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Adam Reinhardt'" , Subject: RE: Bike Choice? Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:15:38 -0400 Message-ID: <001701c0d68b$079b7280$2682c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010507000351.93128.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Adam confessed: I am seriously considering working as a motorcycle courier in the DC area this summer. As a college student, I can't think of a better gig than to get paid to ride around all day. I don't know, while it is cool, and it is riding, not driving, it also dilutes the fun factor a little... However, I would rather not sacrifice my low mileage, good condition, CBR F1 to the task. Instead I'm looking at getting a small-medium displacement standard 1980s bike from one of the Big Four. Any suggestions? That's a wise plan. Just out of curiosity , why not a HD Sportster .... Possibilities I've thought of include the Honda Nighthawk 450, Yamaha Maxim 400, Suzuki GS 425, Kawasaki 440 LTD, Honda CX 500 (shaftie) etc ... are there any models I should definitely stay away from? All of them are bound to have some nit pick problem, but nothing jumps out about the above mentioned models. What about a dual sport ? Also, as a side note, if anyone is looking for a college intern for the summer, I would definitely also be open to that idea. Nope, can't help ... that is, unless you'd consider inhuman conditions, near slave like labor wages, plenty of yard work, organizing my tools, picking up said tools after a tool throwing fit, grocery getting, dog grooming, more yard work, vehicle washing, beer fetching and the like. ;-) good luck Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Sun May 6 21:20:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web3807.mail.yahoo.com (web3804.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.175]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f471KkO23028 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 21:20:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010507012039.7660.qmail@web3807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.180.65] by web3804.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 06 May 2001 18:20:39 PDT Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 18:20:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: Bike Choice? To: Adam Reinhardt , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010507000351.93128.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Adam, I had a Kawi 454LTD for a while, and it would probably work pretty well. If you're working in D.C., you might get by better with a very light, low capacity machine such as a Honda Nighthawk 250, Suzuki GS125, Kawi KLR250, etc. I would think it would be more manouverable, lighter, have better gas mileage, and it would be cheaper to buy in the first place. The lack of speed wouldn't be an issue in the city. Sounds like a great idea for a summer job. Chris Weaver --- Adam Reinhardt wrote: > > I am seriously considering working as a motorcycle > courier in the DC area this summer. As a college > student, I can't think of a better gig than to get > paid to ride around all day. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Sun May 6 22:16:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m02.mx.aol.com (imo-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.5]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f472GrO23816 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 22:16:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo-m02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.60.e36a42d (3702) for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 22:16:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Message-ID: <60.e36a42d.28275f87@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:16:39 EDT Subject: Re: Bike Choice? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_60.e36a42d.28275f87_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10512 --part1_60.e36a42d.28275f87_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would say any of the older, smaller Nighthawk's and/or anything made by Suzuki and starting with "GS". (Nothing with an "x", though".) Just about all bikes sorting into those parameters are cheap, reliable, and more than suitable for the task at hand. If you're not a maintenance fan, some of those bikes (both brands) sport shaft drives. Sean Jordan --part1_60.e36a42d.28275f87_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would say any of the older, smaller Nighthawk's and/or anything made by
Suzuki and starting with "GS". (Nothing with an "x", though".) Just about all
bikes sorting into those parameters are cheap, reliable, and more than
suitable for the task at hand. If you're not a maintenance fan, some of those
bikes (both brands) sport shaft drives.

Sean Jordan --part1_60.e36a42d.28275f87_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 6 22:42:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smgt.net (59-90-112-64-user.darwin.net [64.112.90.59] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f472gQO24211 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 22:42:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 2g0up [64.44.97.121] by smgt.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id AB64428301D4; Sun, 06 May 2001 22:41:40 -0400 From: "Ahalan" To: Subject: RE: Bike Choice? Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:41:38 -0700 Message-ID: <000d01c0d6b8$63226960$3e00000a@darwin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0D67D.B6C39160" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <60.e36a42d.28275f87@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0D67D.B6C39160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Credentials: I've ridden in to DC many many times. I've commuted on a bike for 5 years, and I was a messenger in a Vespa in a much harder town to ride in. Opinion: Get a dual sport - i.e. Suzuki DR350 or DR650, Kawasaki KLR650 or KLR250, Honda XR650, etc. Reason For: - These things are a blast in the city. - The suspension will laugh at potholes. In fact - they're fun ! - They climb curbs and sidewalks without slowing down. - Dropping them (with or without you) is cheaper than on any other bike. - They're SUPPOSED to be dirty. Reasons Against: - No shafties in this family (Moto Guzzi sells a shaftie - recently, large and expensive) - Hard to come by. Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: Eternity23@XXXXXX [mailto:Eternity23@XXXXXX] Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 7:17 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Choice? I would say any of the older, smaller Nighthawk's and/or anything made by Suzuki and starting with "GS". (Nothing with an "x", though".) Just about all bikes sorting into those parameters are cheap, reliable, and more than suitable for the task at hand. If you're not a maintenance fan, some of those bikes (both brands) sport shaft drives. Sean Jordan ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0D67D.B6C39160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Credentials: I've ridden in to DC many many = times. I've=20 commuted on a bike for 5 years, and I was a messenger in a Vespa in a = much=20 harder town to ride in.
 
Opinion: Get a dual sport - i.e. Suzuki DR350 = or DR650,=20 Kawasaki KLR650 or KLR250, Honda XR650, etc.
 
Reason=20 For:
-=20 These things are a blast in the city.
- The suspension will laugh at potholes. = In fact -=20 they're fun !
- They=20 climb curbs and sidewalks without slowing=20 down.
-=20 Dropping them (with or without you) is cheaper than on any other=20 bike.
-=20 They're SUPPOSED to be dirty.
 
Reasons Against:
- No=20 shafties in this family (Moto Guzzi sells a shaftie - recently, large = and=20 expensive)
- Hard=20 to come by.
 
Niv
BMW=20 F650ST
-----Original Message-----
From: Eternity23@XXXXXX = [mailto:Eternity23@XXXXXX]
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 7:17=20 PM
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Re: Bike=20 Choice?

I would=20 say any of the older, smaller Nighthawk's and/or anything made by =
Suzuki=20 and starting with "GS". (Nothing with an "x", though".) Just about all =
bikes sorting into those parameters are cheap, reliable, and more = than=20
suitable for the task at hand. If you're not a maintenance fan, = some of=20 those
bikes (both brands) sport shaft drives.

Sean = Jordan=20
------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0D67D.B6C39160-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 6 23:34:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp4ve.mailsrvcs.net (smtp4vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.25]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f473YtO24953 for ; Sun, 6 May 2001 23:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.tennisbooks.com (adsl-151-200-19-35.dc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp4ve.mailsrvcs.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA28465752 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 03:53:09 GMT Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010506232656.00aa3720@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 23:30:11 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: Re: Recommendations for Summer jacket? In-Reply-To: <200105062301.f46N1Mb20750@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:01 PM 5/6/01, James Reazorwrote: > That's the Joe Rocket Phoenix. It's very inexpensive (relatively >speaking of course). I think it runs around $160 maybe $180. If it had been >around last year when I bought my perffed leather I would have seriously >considered going that way and saved quite a few bucks. Its price is $130 list. It comes in black or grey. There were two greys in stock a few weeks ago down at PowerRide by Potomac Mills if you want to fondle one or try it on. I've seen them advertised for $90 twice, tried to order a black one both times, and been told they were back-ordered -- they've never come through. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 06:45:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web510.mail.yahoo.com (web510.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.225]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f47AjFO02337 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 06:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010507104513.17968.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.40.183] by web510.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 03:45:13 PDT Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 03:45:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Bike Choice? To: Adam Reinhardt , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010507000351.93128.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Adam Reinhardt wrote: > > I am seriously considering working as a motorcycle > courier in the DC area this summer. As a college > student, I can't think of a better gig than to get > paid to ride around all day. i did this while i was an undergrad. be careful that you don't allow your employer to swindle your hard-earned funds away. it never adds up to what you think you deserve because of the complex pricing system. for example, you may think you're making a "rush" order for a higher rate and it turns out that because the lead wasn't provided to you until later (say 1 hour after the order was called in) that the delivery is worth less than a regular delivery because the timing requirements haven't been met. you are also responsible for keeping track of what is owed to you, and if you aren't very careful there will be no way of knowing what amount is actually due to you. i enjoyed the job because, as you say, you get to ride around all day. however, remember that 1) this means you're occasionally riding around all day in the rain; 2) you don't get an even tan; 3) you'll have at least 5 close calls per day (survival skills increase); 4) parking tickets can eat up an entire day's work; 5) so can other moving violations (outside the district, of course); and 6) you come home pretty damn tired every day. > However, I would rather not sacrifice my low > mileage, good condition, CBR F1 to the task. Instead > I'm looking at getting a small-medium displacement > standard 1980s bike from one of the Big Four. Any > suggestions? > > Possibilities I've thought of include the Honda > Nighthawk 450, Yamaha Maxim 400, Suzuki GS 425, > Kawasaki 440 LTD, Honda CX 500 (shaftie) etc ... are > there any models I should definitely stay away from? > > Also, as a side note, if anyone is looking for a > college intern for the summer, I would definitely also > be open to that idea. what's your major? ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 07:46:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com [207.46.181.78]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47BkBO03294 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 07:46:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavilion ([63.10.42.84]) by cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Mon, 7 May 2001 04:45:52 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: Bike Choice? Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:50:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010507000351.93128.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2001 11:45:53.0442 (UTC) FILETIME=[4548A020:01C0D6EB] You should think about getting a dual sport. I have ridden a ke100 in dc many times and thought it was perfect for messengers. It is light enough to go anywhere, cute enough to ride on the sidewalk. Cute enough to blast through red lights without cops getting upset, etc.. Get something smaller than a 400, the smaller the better. Most couriers there use mopeds. Ricardo Pontes 1998 Triumph Tiger From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 08:20:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.142]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47CKfO03806 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 08:20:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj133739a ([24.15.184.123]) by femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010507122032.CLAW20722.femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj133739a>; Mon, 7 May 2001 05:20:32 -0700 Message-ID: <00e601c0d6ef$eefc16c0$7bb80f18@reston1.va.home.com> From: "Keith Lamond" To: "Adam Reinhardt" , References: <20010507000351.93128.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Bike Choice? Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:19:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 How about a late 80's early 90's scooter. I see a lot of pizza delivery guys and couriers riding them in DC because they are extremely manuverable. A 125 scooter should be sufficient for downtown driving. Also, with the abuse a courier bike is going to receive, I would seriously consider something that is shaft drive (most scooters are). The less items to maintain, the easier the job is going to be for you. Good luck, and watch out for those damn DC cagers, Keith 84 Nighthawk S 84 Magna V30 (The wife's) Reston VA ----------------------------------------------------------- Check out my Band's website: http://www.chaotika.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Reinhardt" To: Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 8:03 PM Subject: Bike Choice? > > I am seriously considering working as a motorcycle > courier in the DC area this summer. As a college > student, I can't think of a better gig than to get > paid to ride around all day. > > However, I would rather not sacrifice my low > mileage, good condition, CBR F1 to the task. Instead > I'm looking at getting a small-medium displacement > standard 1980s bike from one of the Big Four. Any > suggestions? > > Possibilities I've thought of include the Honda > Nighthawk 450, Yamaha Maxim 400, Suzuki GS 425, > Kawasaki 440 LTD, Honda CX 500 (shaftie) etc ... are > there any models I should definitely stay away from? > > Also, as a side note, if anyone is looking for a > college intern for the summer, I would definitely also > be open to that idea. > > Thanks, > > Adam Reinhardt > > 1989 CBR 600F > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 08:22:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web515.mail.yahoo.com (web515.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.230]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f47CMZO03817 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 08:22:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010507122232.21081.qmail@web515.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.40.183] by web515.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 05:22:32 PDT Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 05:22:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Bike Choice? To: Adam Reinhardt , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010507104513.17968.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Tom Gimer wrote: > --- Adam Reinhardt wrote: > > > > I am seriously considering working as a motorcycle > > courier in the DC area this summer. As a college > > student, I can't think of a better gig than to get > > paid to ride around all day. > > However, I would rather not sacrifice my low > > mileage, good condition, CBR F1 to the task. Instead > > I'm looking at getting a small-medium displacement > > standard 1980s bike from one of the Big Four. Any > > suggestions? oops! forgot to answer your main question. as for bike choice, if i were planning to do the downtown dc thing all day, i would go for a dual sport 250/350. only drawback to that choice is ease of theft. however, considering the fact that insurance on those bikes is very reasonable and you can basically ride 'em up onto the curb and leave 'em at the front door of the office buildings, they're still my top recommendation. if you're going to be doing a lot of dc<-->baltimore/dc<-->annapolis/baltimore<-->annapolis rush runs (my personal specialty 8-)), a 600cc sportbike is the way to go. ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 10:34:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9704.mail.yahoo.com (web9704.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.140]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f47EYwO05902 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010507143455.63378.qmail@web9704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.41] by web9704.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 07:34:55 PDT Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:34:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: re: Recommendations for Summer jacket? To: suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I thought these armor-held-in-place-with-mesh shirts were meant to be worn under something that provides abrasion protection. Is it like the Bohn deal? http://www.actionstation.com/ Rich > >From: Dave Paper > >Recommendations for a summer riding jacket? > > I saw this mesh 'jacket' at Loudoun Motorsport. Think > it was made by Joe Rocket. Was basically, armor held > together by a cloth or codura mesh. Looked like it > would be great in 80+ degree weather. > > -jeff __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 10:51:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47EpNO06262 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 10:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.141]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GCY00JBCZWWE1@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:50:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GCY00101ZWQLK@XXXXXX>; Mon, 07 May 2001 14:50:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.226]) by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with ESMTP id <0GCY00HOYZWGR5@XXXXXX>; Mon, 07 May 2001 14:50:40 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 10:49:40 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: FW: FW: Biker (No Virus - Niv) To: Hugh Caldwell Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3AF6B604.46048572@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: Hugh Caldwell wrote: > > Looks more like a pilot then a biker. But then we're > all frustrated pilots anyways. Frustrated? Nah. Bored pilots? Maybe. I'm much happier on two wheeels than I ever was in an airplane. Way more fun, way less hassle. Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 11:02:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.kivex.com (smtp-out.kivex.com [204.177.32.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47F2cO06449 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:02:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kawgirl (kawgirl.kivex.com [208.213.150.18]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id LAA23190 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:02:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:02:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl To: dccycles Subject: Virago for sale Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="part1_62.cb438cb.27e13765_boundary" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@XXXXXX for more info. --part1_62.cb438cb.27e13765_boundary Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Please contact the owner, she has taken good care of it. 1996 Yamaha Virago 1100 3700 miles approx Garaged Saddlebags Tach, windshield, lots of chrome, red and white $5,000 contact at (301) 929-0437 or LMLINDY@XXXXXX --part1_62.cb438cb.27e13765_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 11:11:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h008.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.172]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f47FBQO06565 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 9514 invoked from network); 7 May 2001 08:11:18 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm010jim) (208.167.98.62) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.172) with SMTP; 7 May 2001 08:11:18 -0700 X-Sent: 7 May 2001 15:11:18 GMT Message-ID: <003201c0d707$f8919fd0$5302a8c0@ibm010jim> From: "Jim Caldwell" To: References: <200105062301.f46N1Mb20750@dirty.meretrix.com> Subject: MIME format Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:11:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a question. I frequrently see yards of gibberish preceded by: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. Is anyone able to read this? How do I read it using Microsoft Outlook Express? Thanks. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 11:57:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mongoose.slip.net (www2.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47Fv4O07414 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.slip.net ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 14wnLM-0002wb-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 07 May 2001 08:54:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Choice? In-Reply-To: <20010507000351.93128.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 6 May 2001, Adam Reinhardt wrote: > Way back when I used to be a motorcycle courier. I rode a 400 Yamaha Maxim. My advice is unless you can get with a company that will actually send you on fairly long runs you would be better off on a bicycle. > > Also, as a side note, if anyone is looking for a > college intern for the summer, I would definitely also > be open to that idea. > Are you cute? Do you take dicktation? Oooops sorry wrong administration. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 13:05:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47H5UO08631 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:05:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA21202 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:05:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA09299 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [209.67.207.13]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA36683 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:05:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (max3h-6.his.com [64.14.96.6]) by mail.his.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA23401 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:05:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.20010507130605.0077ba38@his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:06:10 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Team Charm @ CMP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We take 3rd at CMP, read about it at http://www.his.com/~harris/news.htm For those in the Wash DC metro area, this weekend (5/12-13/2001) we'll be at Summit Point. C'jah Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 14:50:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47IojO10361 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:50:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA21828 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:50:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA12950 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:50:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from johnson.mail.mindspring.net (johnson.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.177]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA38228 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cfoatty3 (1Cust228.tnt1.fredericksburg2.va.da.uu.net [63.36.6.228]) by johnson.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA01082 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:50:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001501c0d727$289f5180$e406243f@cfoatty3> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: Subject: Upcoming Racing Events Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:54:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Are any listers attending any of the following upcoming races? 1. World SuperBike at Laguna-Seca on Sunday, July 8. My wife and I are flying out to San Jose, CA on July 4th to catch this race. We have grandstand seats at Turn 11 and Paddock pases. 2. Formula USA Road Racing at Virginia International Raceway on Sunday, July 1. My wife and I are staying at the Innkeeper North hotel in Danville, VA on Saturday evening (June 30). Be warned; available non-smoking hotel rooms are getting tough to book for that weekend. 3. AMA SuperBike at Virginia International Raceway Sept. 28-30. We are staying at the Tacrea House B&B in South Boston, VA on Friday and Saturday night ($120 a night). I ordered 3 day race passes thru VIR's web site. They are 45.00 each. I found that the availability of local hotel rooms openings is very limited for this weekend!!! Let me know if any listers are interested in having a DC Cycles "get together" at any of these events. Regarding my 98 GSXR 750, I just added a K&N air filter and a Power Commander II black box!! Lastly, my buddy (Kevin CBR 900) and I rode to Colonial Downs last week to watch the Formula USA dirt track racing opening round. We covered the 90 mile trip there in a little over 60 minutes. It was a cold ride coming back. The main event was won by a 17 year old female named Jennifer Snyder. It was impressive watching her ride her Harley flat tracker @120+ MPH on the 1.25 mile track. Hope to see fellow listers on a group ride soon. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 15:05:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47J5VO10660 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:05:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA21974 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA13523 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [209.67.207.13]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA38396 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:05:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (max3h-56.his.com [64.14.96.56]) by mail.his.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA04291 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.20010507150609.0068662c@his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:06:13 -0700 To: From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: Upcoming Racing Events Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:54 PM 5/7/01 -0400, Roy D. Turner, Esq. wrote: >Are any listers attending any of the following upcoming races? > >1. World SuperBike at Laguna-Seca on Sunday, July 8. >2. Formula USA Road Racing at Virginia International Raceway >3. AMA SuperBike at Virginia International Raceway Sept. 28-30. I'm jealous, I'd love to be able to attend any of them, but my sched conflicts. Don't forget the local club racing scene at Summit Point. Specifically this weekend coming up (5/11-13/2001) is a three day motorcycle event. For fans it is a great chance to see club racing up close & personal. S Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 15:14:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mongoose.slip.net (nfeed1.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.117]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47JEfO10779 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:14:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.slip.net ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 14wqSi-0001Qb-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 07 May 2001 12:14:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:14:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Upcoming Racing Events In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20010507150609.0068662c@his.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 May 2001, Stephen Harris wrote: > I'm jealous, I'd love to be able to attend any of them, but my sched > conflicts. Don't forget the local club racing scene at Summit Point. > Specifically this weekend coming up (5/11-13/2001) is a three day > motorcycle event. For fans it is a great chance to see club racing up > close & personal. > And remember, watching road racing is safer then riding on the street ;P. Hopefully I'll make to both the AMA races at VIR and Summit this weekend. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 16:04:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47K4FO11576 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:04:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22255 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:04:13 -0400 (EDT) From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15514 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com (imo-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.6]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA39202 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 8.8f.a7a24f9 (15877); Mon, 7 May 2001 16:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web49.aolmail.aol.com (web49.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.10]) by air-id07.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.37) with ESMTP; Mon, 07 May 2001 16:02:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:02:47 EDT Subject: Re: Upcoming Racing Events To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <8f.a7a24f9.28285968@aol.com> I'll be at Laguna Seca. I'm flying in on July 5th and flying out Sunday night. Not exactly sure where my seats are as someone from the other e-mail list I'm on is organizing this little get together. I'm pretty sure I'll be wearing an EXUP Brotherhood shirt most of the time I'm at the track. Drop me a line and maybe we could arrange a meet while we're there. Scooter In a message dated Mon, 7 May 2001 2:53:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Roy D. Turner, Esq." writes: << Are any listers attending any of the following upcoming races? 1. World SuperBike at Laguna-Seca on Sunday, July 8. My wife and I are flying out to San Jose, CA on July 4th to catch this race. We have grandstand seats at Turn 11 and Paddock pases. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 16:20:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f47KKCO11937 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA22391 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA15994 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:20:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA39385 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f47KK1T20509; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:20:01 -0400 From: Brian Roach To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." , Subject: Re: Upcoming Racing Events Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:20:01 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <001501c0d727$289f5180$e406243f@cfoatty3> In-Reply-To: <001501c0d727$289f5180$e406243f@cfoatty3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0105071620010M.02231@www.mostlyharmless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 07 May 2001, Roy D. Turner, Esq. wrote: > 3. AMA SuperBike at Virginia International Raceway Sept. 28-30. We are > staying at the Tacrea House B&B in South Boston, VA on Friday and Saturday > night ($120 a night). I ordered 3 day race passes thru VIR's web site. > They are 45.00 each. I found that the availability of local hotel rooms > openings is very limited for this weekend!!! I'll be competing at this event, does that count? :) I'm applying for my AMA pro 250gp license, and plan to be racing at VIR that weekend. Feel free to stop by and say hello. - Roach From dc-cycles-request Mon May 7 22:03:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9008.mail.yahoo.com (web9008.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.170]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4823aO17617 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 22:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010508020334.94748.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.208.165.155] by web9008.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 07 May 2001 19:03:34 PDT Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:03:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: FS: Collett Communicators 900Mhz To: DC Cycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >From http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcdirt/trailrider/collet.html "The 900MHz Communicators come in a kit including helmet speakers, rechargeable battery pack and recharger, full instructions and Velcro bits. The price is $259.95 each, so you're going to pay about $520 for two of them." For Sale: Two(2) Collett Electronics 900Mhz Communicators with everything you see above, except the velcro bits. $400 obo. I love them, they even saved a nasty crash with a boulder, but I don't street ride anymore. Steve Clark Leesburg, VA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 05:41:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f489fvO25475 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 05:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO ([38.38.168.117]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f489fxd92691; Tue, 8 May 2001 02:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000101c0d7a3$0783e7a0$75a82626@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Cc: Subject: Summer race schedule Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:59:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hey, Yeah, I'll be at VIR in September. I'm staying at the Stratford, I think, I can't remember. Also, in addition to attending as many Summit days as I can (as a volunteer corner worker of course), I plan to attend (maybe) High Point Pa. MX, Budd's Creek MX, Mid-Ohio SB, and (maybe) Delmont, Pa. MX in September. I'd like to swap Budd's for Loudon, but a 10-hour one-way trek may be too much for me this year. Road Atlanta would also be nice, but it conflicts with the Jefferson 500 at Summit. Plus my bike won't be in until the week of the 21st, so driving is no fun. VIR in July would be nice, but it's so far away that I'd have to hotel-it, and that's a lot of $$$ for club racing, even if it is national-level. There are a few dirt track races at Hagerstown this year, one in June and the other in August, and there is a one-mile race this September near Syracuse that we will most likely attend.Wow! I've got a lot of spectating on my plate this season. Maybe being single isn't so bad... nah, it is. At any rate, I'm sure I'll see one of you somewhere. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Daidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard (soon!) 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 07:24:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48BO8O27152 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 07:24:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.31.14630938 (3860) for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 07:23:55 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <31.14630938.2829314b@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 07:23:55 EDT Subject: Re: Bike Choice? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 5/7/2001 8:23:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 keithl1349@XXXXXX writes: > something that is shaft drive (most scooters are).=20 Sorry, most, if not all scooters are belt drive. it=E2=80=99s enclosed, but=20= it is a=20 belt. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 08:30:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from lycanthrope.crosslink.net (lycanthrope.crosslink.net [206.246.124.36]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48CU0O28096 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 08:30:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lhs149teacher ([209.147.77.15]) by lycanthrope.crosslink.net (8.9.3/) with SMTP id IAA09642 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 08:28:57 -0400 X-Really-To: Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 8 May 2001 08:33:24 -0400 Message-ID: <01C0D799.8C47AE90.dthompso1@erols.com> From: Danny Thompson Reply-To: "dthompso1@XXXXXX" To: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Hey look at this new (to me) term..... Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:33:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Encoding: 21 TEXT Nick Horianopoulos on the VTR Superhawk list wrote: ...."However, my co-worker didn't have such good luck - he was showing his Erion Racing 929 that he has at least $2500 in mods to an over-eager co-worker, and when his back was turned, the idiot decided to take it for a spin in the store parking lot - and perform a "cool" stoppie. This brilliant manuever turned into a not-so-cool endo, so now this guy's 929 is roached." Now Brian is even well known enough to have a term named after him. Not sure it is one I would want named after me, but at least it is something...I guess...maybe? :) Danny #903 Novice (WERA, CCS) '98 VTR '00 SV (For SALE) www.onewayracing.org Proudly Sponsored by: Blalock Cycle www.blalockcycle.com, Shen Valley Trailers www.shenvalleywarrenton.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 08:47:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com (uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com [12.26.159.121]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48ClkO28469 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 08:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by uxtpaprx1.pwcglobal.com; id IAA22022; Tue, 8 May 2001 08:44:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Received: from uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com(10.26.104.81) by uxtpaprx1.us.pw.com via smap (V5.5) id xmaa19789; Tue, 8 May 01 08:43:26 -0400 Received: from us-amsmta005.us.pw.com by uxtpabuf1.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #U3932) with ESMTP id <0GD000M4BOR5DZ@XXXXXX>; Tue, 8 May 2001 08:45:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 07:46:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Bike Choice? To: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on US-AMSMTA005/US/INTL(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 05/08/2001 08:46:28 AM Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f48ClnO28470 Hmmm, Vespa might disagree. Mine doesn't have a belt or a chain, course it is a '64 :-) --chris PenguinBiker@XXXXXX on 05/08/2001 07:23:55 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX cc: Subject: Re: Bike Choice? In a message dated 5/7/2001 8:23:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, keithl1349@XXXXXX writes: > something that is shaft drive (most scooters are). Sorry, most, if not all scooters are belt drive. it's enclosed, but it is a belt. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) 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From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 09:03:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-out.kivex.com (smtp-out.kivex.com [204.177.32.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48D3BO28703 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kawgirl (kawgirl.kivex.com [208.213.150.18]) by smtp-out.kivex.com (8.8.8/8.8.7-KIVEX) with SMTP id JAA03435 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "lisa@XXXXXX" X-Sender: lgoddard@kawgirl To: dccycles Subject: Courier Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am seriously considering working as a motorcycle courier in the DC area this summer. As a college student, I can't think of a better gig than to get paid to ride around all day. My co-worker used to be a motorcycle courier. He said that the guys who wore beanie's or Duo-tech's did better. Being able to hear the radio for dispatchs was easier and they were better able to communicate. I'm still impressed by one moped courier who was riding in Dupont Circle, talking on the phone, drinking from a glass bottle of ided tea while smoking a cigarette. I don't think I could handle all of those tasks at once! Lisa '95 VFR From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 09:36:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48DadO29325 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25680 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09368 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA47647 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cfoatty3 (1Cust16.tnt1.fredericksburg2.va.da.uu.net [63.36.6.16]) by granger.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10255; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <000601c0d7c4$a49a2060$1006243f@cfoatty3> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "Brian Roach" , Subject: Re: Upcoming Racing Events Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:41:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Let me know your number when the AMA assigns it and I will look for you in the pits. I am assuming you will be racing an Aprilla. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Roach To: Roy D. Turner, Esq. ; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Monday, May 07, 2001 4:20 PM Subject: Re: Upcoming Racing Events >On Mon, 07 May 2001, Roy D. Turner, Esq. wrote: > >> 3. AMA SuperBike at Virginia International Raceway Sept. 28-30. We are >> staying at the Tacrea House B&B in South Boston, VA on Friday and Saturday >> night ($120 a night). I ordered 3 day race passes thru VIR's web site. >> They are 45.00 each. I found that the availability of local hotel rooms >> openings is very limited for this weekend!!! > >I'll be competing at this event, does that count? :) > >I'm applying for my AMA pro 250gp license, and plan to be racing at VIR that >weekend. Feel free to stop by and say hello. > >- Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 09:42:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48DgMO29423 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:42:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA25719 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:42:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09562 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:42:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA47710 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:42:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f48DgGT22310; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:42:16 -0400 From: Brian Roach To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." , "Brian Roach" , Subject: Re: Upcoming Racing Events Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:42:16 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <000601c0d7c4$a49a2060$1006243f@cfoatty3> In-Reply-To: <000601c0d7c4$a49a2060$1006243f@cfoatty3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0105080942160N.02231@www.mostlyharmless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 08 May 2001, Roy D. Turner, Esq. wrote: > Let me know your number when the AMA assigns it and I will look for you in > the pits. I am assuming you will be racing an Aprilla. Actually, I race a Yamaha TZ250 GP bike. The Aprilia Cup bike is actually an Italian street bike (GP replica) they import to the states for club racing. The Aprilia weighs about 300lbs and makes 58hp at the rear wheel, whereas my TZ250 weighs 220lbs and makes 80hp at the rear wheel. - Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 09:44:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48DipO29445 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f48DihT22318; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:44:43 -0400 From: Brian Roach To: Danny Thompson , "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Hey look at this new (to me) term..... Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:44:43 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <01C0D799.8C47AE90.dthompso1@erols.com> In-Reply-To: <01C0D799.8C47AE90.dthompso1@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0105080944430P.02231@www.mostlyharmless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Tue, 08 May 2001, Danny Thompson wrote: > Now Brian is even well known enough to have a term named after him. Not > sure it is one I would want named after me, but at least it is > something...I guess...maybe? :) See... http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=roach About 3/4 down the page :) It actually started at Bell Labs back in the early days. It's actually rather fitting considering I've been a computer geek most of my life. - Roach From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 10:12:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48ECwO00164 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:12:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:12:55 -0400 Message-Id: <200105081012.AA45351206@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: Family law lawyer in Maryland? X-Mailer: A colleague of mine is seeking an attorney in Maryland to help with child custody and child support. Anybody have any recommendations? thanks, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 10:13:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mcnte1.mc.cc.md.us ([160.253.138.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48EDIO00176 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MCNTE1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:10:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Hugh Caldwell'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Bike Choice? Job Choice? Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:10:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >From a former bicycle courier...what he says. B'leive me, aside from the increased volume and variety of dangers you will face--and the city has plenty to offer that you can not even imagine, just yet--the expenses of operating your moto will kill you. You will ride anywhere from 65 to perhaps 180 punishing, stopping and starting, stopping and starting, and stopping and starting, pedestrian-dodging, LEO-evading, finding a parking space, finding gas, thinking about the new work you have to do on your machine miles per day. Add to that the fact that couriing doesn't pay nearly what it did when I wuz there--1981 - 1988. I spent on average about $200/year in bicycle maintenance. The moto guys spent more like $200 - $400/month. As far as I am concerned, the only way to even dream of any net income would have to be by bicycle. But I think the whole courier dream is pretty much out the window anymore, no matter what the machine. IMHO Saul Goldberg Gaithersburg MD '89 pearl PC800 -----Original Message----- From: Hugh Caldwell [mailto:twg@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:57 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Choice? On Sun, 6 May 2001, Adam Reinhardt wrote: > Way back when I used to be a motorcycle courier. I rode a 400 Yamaha Maxim. My advice is unless you can get with a company that will actually send you on fairly long runs you would be better off on a bicycle. > > Also, as a side note, if anyone is looking for a > college intern for the summer, I would definitely also > be open to that idea. > Are you cute? Do you take dicktation? Oooops sorry wrong administration. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 10:53:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48ErbO00899 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-44-32.s32.tnt3.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.44.32] helo=palladio) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14x8rm-0007PL-00 ; Tue, 08 May 2001 10:53:34 -0400 Message-ID: <00dd01c0d7cf$074d9160$bb82fea9@palladio> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Goldberg, Saul" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: Bike Choice? Job Choice? Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:53:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Saul, I think there's the suburban market to be considered, outside of bicycle range. As long as you're comfortable lane splitting and filtering through the DC and close in suburb gridlock, you can make deliveries a lot quicker (and possibly make more money) than the guys driving the Chevy Novas. I wouldn't do it on a machine that you're fond of. I would think a dual sport would be ideal, to hop curbs and whatnot. A little mud splattered on the license plate might be a good idea too, should your lane splitting and other peccadilloes raise the ire of the local constabulary. Our firm needs deliveries mostly in the burbs and based on the rates for one to two hour "rush" deliveries, there seems to money to be made in this market. Cars just get caught in the mess. It seems to me that a moto courier is get about the only way to get a rush delivery from say Alexandria to Herndon in the thick of rush hour. Those car drivers can't use the HOVs either like a moto can. Most of the suburban couriers do not go from point to point for the "standard" three to four hour deliveries, they make multiple stops taking advantage of the hauling capacity of a car. So many documents are transferred electronically these days it could be that the courier market is shrinking, unless you're dealing with creaky 19th-century bureaucracies like the County of Fairfax that need to see blueprints. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F ----- Original Message ----- From: Goldberg, Saul > From a former bicycle courier...what he says. B'leive me, aside from the > increased volume and variety of dangers you will face--and the city has > plenty to offer that you can not even imagine, just yet--the expenses of > operating your moto will kill you. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 10:57:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal.east.saic.com (portal.east.saic.com [198.151.13.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f48EvaO00986 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclmx.saic.com by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 8 May 2001 14:57:36 UT Received: from mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:57:22 -0400 Received: from mcl-its-exbh01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.11]) by mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001050810523903381 for ; Tue, 08 May 2001 10:52:39 -0400 Received: by mcl-its-exbh01.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:57:36 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FS: Superhawk (resend) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:57:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" For Sale: 1998 Honda VTR1000 Superhawk. 12K miles. Red & Black. Upgrades include: M4 Full exhaust (you MUST hear it!), Factory Pro jetted, K&N Air Filter, steel braided lines (front, rear, & clutch), lower fairing, blue halogen headlight, flush mount carbon-look signals, carbon-look bar ends, tank bra, red aluminum footpegs front & rear, dark smoke windscreen, gel hand grips. Also includes extras such as service manual, stock exhaust, jetting, sockets, etc. Tires are new. Runs terrific. All basic maitenance concientiously carried out. Have dyno charts to show performance. $6750 OBO. Delivery negotiable. Contact: Matt Pflieger 703-676-5013 (day) 703-608-6451 (day or eve) pfliegerma@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 11:00:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mcnte1.mc.cc.md.us ([160.253.138.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48F0SO01072 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MCNTE1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:58:04 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Paul Wilson'" , "Goldberg, Saul" Cc: dc-cycles list Subject: RE: Bike Choice? Job Choice? Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:58:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good points, all, Paul. In order to look out for the best interests of our compatriot, I was pointing out the negatives. If he doesn't mind the accelerated maintenance schedule, the lower-than-anticipated income, and increased risk level, he might have a real ball. I certainly remember some days when I couldn't imagine life being any better--actually quite a few of 'em. And the need certainly still exists, and dan definitely be more effectively met by M/X. Perspective is all. Saul -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 10:54 AM To: Goldberg, Saul Cc: dc-cycles list Subject: Re: Bike Choice? Job Choice? Saul, I think there's the suburban market to be considered, outside of bicycle range. As long as you're comfortable lane splitting and filtering through the DC and close in suburb gridlock, you can make deliveries a lot quicker (and possibly make more money) than the guys driving the Chevy Novas. I wouldn't do it on a machine that you're fond of. I would think a dual sport would be ideal, to hop curbs and whatnot. A little mud splattered on the license plate might be a good idea too, should your lane splitting and other peccadilloes raise the ire of the local constabulary. Our firm needs deliveries mostly in the burbs and based on the rates for one to two hour "rush" deliveries, there seems to money to be made in this market. Cars just get caught in the mess. It seems to me that a moto courier is get about the only way to get a rush delivery from say Alexandria to Herndon in the thick of rush hour. Those car drivers can't use the HOVs either like a moto can. Most of the suburban couriers do not go from point to point for the "standard" three to four hour deliveries, they make multiple stops taking advantage of the hauling capacity of a car. So many documents are transferred electronically these days it could be that the courier market is shrinking, unless you're dealing with creaky 19th-century bureaucracies like the County of Fairfax that need to see blueprints. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F ----- Original Message ----- From: Goldberg, Saul > From a former bicycle courier...what he says. B'leive me, aside from the > increased volume and variety of dangers you will face--and the city has > plenty to offer that you can not even imagine, just yet--the expenses of > operating your moto will kill you. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 11:46:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11005.mail.yahoo.com (web11005.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.55]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f48FkNO01942 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:46:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010508154617.12281.qmail@web11005.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.230.55.8] by web11005.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 May 2001 08:46:17 PDT Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 08:46:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Herb Subject: NESBA Saturday To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am going to NESBA track day on Saturday at Summit Point for a free introductory class and a couple free laps. Anyone else on the list going. I have to be there at 7 am. Looking for a riding partner. Trey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 13:14:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13008.mail.yahoo.com (web13008.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f48HEqO03591 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010508171450.43683.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.26.132.101] by web13008.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 May 2001 10:14:50 PDT Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:14:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Magazine Question To: DC-Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On a few e-mail lists, I've heard that Cycle World came out with a new magazine that covers touring riders/bikes. I stopped at several book stores and magazine shops, but haven't been able to find any. Have any of you folks seen this? Know where I can pick one up in Northern Virginia, or other nearby places? Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Alexandria, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://members.nbci.com/Nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 13:30:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smgt.net (59-90-112-64-user.darwin.net [64.112.90.59] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48HUVO03918 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 2g0up [64.44.97.121] by smgt.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id AD14D661005C; Tue, 08 May 2001 13:29:56 -0400 From: "Ahalan" To: "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: RE: Magazine Question Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:29:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01c0d7fd$a3700860$3e00000a@darwin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010508171450.43683.qmail@web13008.mail.yahoo.com> Louis, I picked mine up at Giant Food. Its a fun read though by looking at it I'm not sure this will be a regular monthly or a one time thing. There's nothing in the editorial about that and there's no volume/issue number. Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: Louis F. Caplan [mailto:nighthawk700@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 10:15 AM To: DC-Cycles Subject: Magazine Question On a few e-mail lists, I've heard that Cycle World came out with a new magazine that covers touring riders/bikes. I stopped at several book stores and magazine shops, but haven't been able to find any. Have any of you folks seen this? Know where I can pick one up in Northern Virginia, or other nearby places? Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Alexandria, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://members.nbci.com/Nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 14:38:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13001.mail.yahoo.com (web13001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f48IcGO05062 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010508183814.7217.qmail@web13001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.26.132.101] by web13001.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 08 May 2001 11:38:14 PDT Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:38:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: RE: Magazine Question To: "'DC-Cycles'" In-Reply-To: <000b01c0d7fd$a3700860$3e00000a@darwin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Niv, I went down the block to the Giants by my office and found it. It says in the lower right front cover "Premiere Issue" But at $5.95 an issue, wow! It may be like what Rider Magazine used to do, about 4-5 years ago, they would have an annual special issue called "Touring Rider." They had that for about 2 or 3 years, and I haven't seen it since. I just thumbed through this (called "Motorcycle Travel & Adventure" but looks good! Nice picture of a Garmin III plus GPS in action! Louis --- Ahalan wrote: > Louis, > I picked mine up at Giant Food. Its a fun read though by looking at it I'm > not sure this will be a regular monthly or a one time thing. There's > nothing in the editorial about that and there's no volume/issue number. > > Niv > BMW F650ST > > --- Louis F. Caplan [mailto:nighthawk700@XXXXXX] > > On a few e-mail lists, I've heard that Cycle World came out with a new > magazine > that covers touring riders/bikes. I stopped at several book stores and > magazine shops, but haven't been able to find any. Have any of you folks > seen > this? Know where I can pick one up in Northern Virginia, or other nearby > places? > > Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 17:25:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f279.law10.hotmail.com [64.4.14.154]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48LOxO07957 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:13:14 -0700 Received: from 208.19.133.132 by lw10fd.law10.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 08 May 2001 21:13:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [208.19.133.132] From: "Rich VFR" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Photo radar speed enforcement Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:13:13 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2001 21:13:14.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1815AC0:01C0D803] from an article on photo radar on George Washington Memorial Parkway in the Washington Times: "The Park Service installed one camera near CIA headquarters; the other was put up near Gravelly Point, just north of Reagan National Airport." http://washingtontimes.com/metro/20010508-85197000.htm _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 17:43:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hqrs01.inphonic.com (gtown.inphonic.com [64.50.169.161]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48LhZO08274 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:43:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by HQRS01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <228TJ4N2>; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:43:22 -0400 Received: from [10.0.0.235] (10.0.0.235 [10.0.0.235]) by hqrs01.inphonic.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id 228TJ4NG; Tue, 8 May 2001 17:43:13 -0400 From: Rich Westbrook To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 17:41:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Photo radar speed enforcement Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit How much do you want to bet Dick Army got a speeding ticket from one of these cameras recently. > From: Rich VFR > Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:13:13 -0000 > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Photo radar speed enforcement > > from an article on photo radar on George Washington Memorial Parkway in the > Washington Times: > > "The Park Service installed one camera near CIA headquarters; the other was > put up near Gravelly Point, just north of Reagan National Airport." > > http://washingtontimes.com/metro/20010508-85197000.htm > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 19:27:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48NRlO10064 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 19:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p49.a4.du.radix.net [207.192.130.177]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA25868 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 19:27:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: Subject: RE: Photo radar speed enforcement Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:28:57 -0400 Message-ID: <000801c0d816$d547b360$b182c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal nah, they'd be all over that. a staffer perhaps... -----Original Message----- From: Rich Westbrook [mailto:rwestbrook@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 5:42 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Photo radar speed enforcement How much do you want to bet Dick Army got a speeding ticket from one of these cameras recently. > From: Rich VFR > Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:13:13 -0000 > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Photo radar speed enforcement > > from an article on photo radar on George Washington Memorial Parkway in the > Washington Times: > > "The Park Service installed one camera near CIA headquarters; the other was > put up near Gravelly Point, just north of Reagan National Airport." > > http://washingtontimes.com/metro/20010508-85197000.htm > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 19:50:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f48NoNO10452 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 19:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-45-111.s365.tnt3.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.45.111]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14xHFF-00035s-00 ; Tue, 08 May 2001 19:50:22 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:49:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Photo radar speed enforcement From: "Paul Wilson" To: Dave Yates , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Actually, according to the article, the cameras will not be activated until October at the earliest. No one's getting tickets from them now. We're still in the public comment period for the proposed regulation that will put the cameras into service. I've got some choice comments. ;) Since they only photo the front license plates, some well timed bird flipping from the scoot may be in order. Paul in DC 95 VFR ---------- >From: "Dave Yates" >To: >Subject: RE: Photo radar speed enforcement >Date: Tue, May 8, 2001, 19:28 > > nah, they'd be all over that. a staffer perhaps... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rich Westbrook [mailto:rwestbrook@XXXXXX] > > How much do you want to bet Dick Army got a speeding ticket from one of > these cameras recently. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 20:27:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f490RZO11048 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 20:27:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p38.a7.du.radix.net [207.192.132.38]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA26955; Tue, 8 May 2001 20:27:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Paul Wilson'" , Subject: RE: Photo radar speed enforcement Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 20:12:34 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01c0d81f$2f0c60a0$b182c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Actually, according to the article, the cameras will not be activated until October at the earliest. That was October LAST year.... No one's getting tickets from them now. I don't know about that, but you can DAMN well bet that if the government or Park police see $$$$$$$$ they'll pursue it... Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 8 21:21:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.141]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f491KxO11956 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 21:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj117103a ([24.6.106.133]) by femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010509012048.SNIB12893.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj117103a> for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 18:20:48 -0700 Message-ID: <004801c0d824$95e7e9c0$8501a8c0@Home> Reply-To: "James Reazor" From: "James Reazor" To: References: <20010507143455.63378.qmail@web9704.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Recommendations for Summer jacket? Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 21:08:35 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 No it's an actual jacket. Think of it as perfed textile. http://www.joerocket.com/full/phoenix_jacket_grey_full.jpg -James '00 SV650 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scratch" To: ; Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 10:34 AM Subject: re: Recommendations for Summer jacket? > I thought these armor-held-in-place-with-mesh shirts > were meant to be worn under something that provides > abrasion protection. > > Is it like the Bohn deal? > > http://www.actionstation.com/ > > Rich From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 08:12:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11205.mail.yahoo.com (web11205.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.187]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f49CCZO22721 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 08:12:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010509121227.11676.qmail@web11205.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web11205.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 09 May 2001 05:12:27 PDT Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 05:12:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: Photo radar speed enforcement To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So if you do not have a plate on the front they can't get you? The red light cameras nail your rear plate. Matt --- Paul Wilson wrote: > Actually, according to the article, the cameras will > not be activated until > October at the earliest. No one's getting tickets > from them now. We're > still in the public comment period for the proposed > regulation that will put > the cameras into service. I've got some choice > comments. ;) Since they > only photo the front license plates, some well timed > bird flipping from the > scoot may be in order. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR > > ---------- > >From: "Dave Yates" > >To: > >Subject: RE: Photo radar speed enforcement > >Date: Tue, May 8, 2001, 19:28 > > > > > nah, they'd be all over that. a staffer > perhaps... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rich Westbrook > [mailto:rwestbrook@XXXXXX] > > > > > How much do you want to bet Dick Army got a > speeding ticket from one of > > these cameras recently. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: From: "Tom Knapik" Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:30:01 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on D04NMS69/04/M/IBM(Release 5.0.6 |December 14, 2000) at 05/09/2001 09:30:32 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Regards, Tom Knapik FXSTBI E-mail: knapik@XXXXXX Phone: (301) 803-2417, tie-262-2417 ----- Forwarded by Tom Knapik/Bethesda/IBM on 05/09/2001 09:29 AM ----- This is an alert to warn you that a new computer virus is spreading through the Internet and many corporate networks. This virus is new and antivirus software is being updated to include it. Name of virus: VBS.VBSWG.D@mm Subject line in e-mail containing HOMEPAGE the virus Name of e-mail attachment, if HOMEPAGE.HTML.VBS any: This is what the virus will do if Opens your Web browser and sends the you execute it: user to pornographic Web sites The following action is required: If you see this virus in your in-basket, delete it immediately. Do not open, detach or view. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 09:41:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13802.mail.yahoo.com (web13802.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.12]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f49DfwO24240 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010509134156.60763.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13802.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 09 May 2001 06:41:56 PDT Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 06:41:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT! To: Tom Knapik , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii That sounds like a good virus to me (-: --- Tom Knapik wrote: > > > Regards, > Tom Knapik > FXSTBI > E-mail: knapik@XXXXXX > Phone: (301) 803-2417, tie-262-2417 > > ----- Forwarded by Tom Knapik/Bethesda/IBM on > 05/09/2001 09:29 AM ----- > > > > > > > > > > This is an alert to warn you that a new computer > virus is spreading through > the Internet and many corporate networks. This virus > is new and antivirus > software is being updated to include it. > > > Name of virus: VBS.VBSWG.D@mm > > > > Subject line in e-mail containing HOMEPAGE > > the virus > > > > Name of e-mail attachment, if > HOMEPAGE.HTML.VBS > any: > > > > > > This is what the virus will do if Opens your Web > browser and sends the > you execute it: user to > pornographic Web sites > > > > > > > The following action is required: If you see > this virus in your > in-basket, > delete it immediately. > Do not open, > detach or view. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 10:10:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9702.mail.yahoo.com (web9702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.138]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f49EAnO24746 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010509141046.68695.qmail@web9702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.44] by web9702.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 09 May 2001 07:10:46 PDT Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 07:10:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Re: Photo radar speed enforcement To: pawilson@XXXXXX, DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Paul wrote, "Since they only photo the front license plates, some well timed bird flipping from the scoot may be in order." I always suspected that Paul was a 1%er. I think I saw his picture once in an old issue of "Outlaw Biker." ;) Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 12:23:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [209.249.185.20]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49GN5O27184 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 12:23:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by mail.zen-data.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f49GMpj10544 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 12:22:51 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010509121942.02bd7670@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 12:21:51 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hell, maybe the next virus I get will get me drunk and give me the winning lottery numbers! I had to use a gas station window squeegee to wipe off the bike this morning. Nothing worse than a few days of pollen and a little light rain. Which reminds me, I once saw a guy wash an entire station wagon at a gas station using only a squeegee and the diluted windshield washer fluid they provide. It was pretty funny. At 09:30 AM 5/9/01, Tom Knapik wrote: > This is what the virus will do if Opens your Web browser and sends the > you execute it: user to pornographic Web sites ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org Neckties can impair blood flow to the brain and interfere with clear thinking, alertness, and judgment. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 12:32:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49GWuO27354 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 12:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.11]) id QQkohe19906; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:32:53 GMT Received: from [153.39.168.51] by imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: macsupport10.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.168.51]) id QQkohe00295; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:31:35 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjordan@XXXXXX Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:31:34 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, dccycles2@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: AMA Big Kahuna Nationals at Road Atlanta Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I'm thinking of riding down to Road Atlanta next week for the AMA Nationals there. (May18th-20th) It's about a 9 hour and change ride. I'd probably leave early Friday morning, and get back here (NoVa) late Sunday evening. Accomodations will be whatever you can fit on your bike; I will be camping at the track. Anyone interested in going? Ticket prices can be found at Roadatlanta.com. Contact me privately and I can provide more details. -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 13:06:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49H6RO27936 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 13:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-122.patriot.net [209.249.180.122]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f49H69M11088; Wed, 9 May 2001 13:06:09 -0400 Message-ID: <3AF977A4.99959557@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 13:00:20 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troutman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT! Now bike/car washing... References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010509121942.02bd7670@mail.troutman.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Troutman wrote: > I had to use a gas station window squeegee to wipe off the bike this > morning. Nothing worse than a few days of pollen and a little light > rain. Which reminds me, I once saw a guy wash an entire station wagon at a > gas station using only a squeegee and the diluted windshield washer fluid > they provide. It was pretty funny. > During a water shortage a few years back, and during the ensuing ban on lawn sprinkling and car washing, a man was observed washing his precious Mercedes. A *green* raced over prepared to viciously scold the wastrel, but ... The man was using bottled water!!! Bill From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 13:25:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mongoose.slip.net (nfeed1.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.117]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49HPcO28226 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 13:25:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.slip.net ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 14xXi4-0005KO-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 09 May 2001 10:25:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:24:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Stunts and cheesecake Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII from the Las Vegas Extremes http://clients.loudeye.com/elp/lvx2/trailer-lg.ram ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 14:40:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49IeFO29632 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 14:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 9 May 2001 14:40:19 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E478@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: Chain replacement Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:40:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Looking to put a new chain on my CBR this weekend and was wondering if anyone had a chain breaker or rivet tool they might consider loaning out in return for some beverages. Tried buying the Motion Pro tool from Poweride, but once again (why do I keep trying with those idiots?) they don't have any in stock. Cedric Bernescut "Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding, 'you're making a scene.'" Homer Simpson From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 15:17:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from merctech.com (brickhouse1.iad1.sitesmith.com [63.94.228.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49JHPO00449 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:17:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from biber (bergman@localhost) by merctech.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f49JHH106858; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:17:17 -0400 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Cedric Bernescut CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: bergman@XXXXXX Reply-To: bergman@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Chain replacement In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 May 2001 14:40:14 EDT." <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E478@NCEAEXCHANGE> References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E478@NCEAEXCHANGE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 15:17:17 -0400 Message-ID: <6857.989435837@biber> In your message dated: Wed, 09 May 2001 14:40:14 EDT, The pithy ruminations from Cedric Bernescut on were: => Looking to put a new chain on my CBR this weekend and was wondering if As far as a chain breaker, I'd suggest a hacksaw, Dremel tool, or some other cut-off tools. => anyone had a chain breaker or rivet tool they might consider loaning out in I've always used chains with master links, and I've had one clip come off ever-- with no affect to the bike. Mark => return for some beverages. Tried buying the Motion Pro tool from Poweride, => but once again (why do I keep trying with those idiots?) they don't have any => in stock. => => Cedric Bernescut => => "Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding, 'you're making => a scene.'" => Homer Simpson => From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 15:18:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mongoose.slip.net (www2.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49JIaO00469 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.slip.net ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 14xZRO-0007Ex-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 09 May 2001 12:16:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:17:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: 96 ZX6E maintenance question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm about to change some tires on a friends zx6e and was hoping someone could provide me with the torque values for the axles, the bolts on the bottom of the fork, and the caliper bolts. Thanks, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 15:27:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49JRKO00616 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:27:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-145.patriot.net [209.249.180.145]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f49JQvM11770; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:26:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3AF998A3.24724432@patriot.net> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 15:21:08 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cedric Bernescut CC: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Chain replacement References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E478@NCEAEXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not in stock? No surprise to me, stopped by PowerPuss the other day for a simple flat shield for a 3/4 helmet - don't carry them. WHAT! Of course they had full-face oh-so-cool mirror reflective shields in two gazzilion flavors for sport bike posers, but a lowly flat shield.??? Begone, you heathen! Losers. And I was prepared to pay like $15 for the flip-up style. I'd made the PowerPuss price adjustment from the last one I bought of Roanoke Island NC (Manteo) for $7.95. Reckon I'll have to go on a road trip to NC to get another one. Oh, damn... Bill Cedric Bernescut wrote: > Looking to put a new chain on my CBR this weekend and was wondering if > anyone had a chain breaker or rivet tool they might consider loaning out in > return for some beverages. Tried buying the Motion Pro tool from Poweride, > but once again (why do I keep trying with those idiots?) they don't have any > in stock. > > Cedric Bernescut > > "Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding, 'you're making > a scene.'" > Homer Simpson From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 16:10:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gothic.answerlogic.com (gothic.answerlogic.com [64.18.130.137]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49KAlO01322 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:10:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from KLINGON ([10.10.13.201]) by gothic.answerlogic.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id KLQ6LZVM; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:06:21 -0400 Message-ID: <028501c0d8c4$1f6d72b0$c90d0a0a@answerlogic.com> From: "Han Park" To: References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E478@NCEAEXCHANGE> <3AF998A3.24724432@patriot.net> Subject: DC Cycle Tire Changer Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 16:10:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I need to use the DC Cycles Tire Changer. I don't own a share of the tire changer, but is it correct I can use it for a fee. Hugh Caldwell has told me that Todd Peer has it, does anyone have his e-mail address? Thanks. han From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 16:20:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49KKsO01559 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:20:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id l.bc.142a2883 (5712); Wed, 9 May 2001 16:20:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web36.aolmail.aol.com (web36.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.12]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.37) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 May 2001 16:20:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 16:20:43 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Stunts and cheesecake To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Keeewwwwwlllllll!!!!!! I especially like Jo JO. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Wed, 9 May 2001 1:28:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Hugh Caldwell writes: << from the Las Vegas Extremes http://clients.loudeye.com/elp/lvx2/trailer-lg.ram ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 16:48:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mongoose.slip.net (www2.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49KmGO01982 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 16:48:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.slip.net ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 14xaq3-0003Kn-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 09 May 2001 13:45:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:47:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Stunts and cheesecake In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 9 May 2001 ScooterFZR@XXXXXX wrote: > Keeewwwwwlllllll!!!!!! I especially like Jo JO. ;-) > yeah, she's cooool. Speaking of cool chicks whatever happened to Tom and Jennette (sp?)? They've been awfully quite of late. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 17:30:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m04.mx.aol.com (imo-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.7]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f49LU7O02684 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 17:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo-m04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.18.c955406 (4330) for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 17:29:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Message-ID: <18.c955406.282b10d1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:29:53 EDT Subject: Re: Stunts and cheesecake To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 8 >>Speaking of cool chicks whatever happened to Tom >>and Jennette (sp?)? They've been awfully quite of late. They've been quiet too! :P Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 20:54:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m11.boston.juno.com (m11.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.74]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4A0sUO07924 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 20:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"fTLSAcSSZ0OO+O1u10jMXJKdkY2/xoz6DycxxBosqLmM/AQy68Yisg=="> Received: (from celticracing@XXXXXX) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id F42RVFVP; Wed, 09 May 2001 20:54:02 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:48:58 -0400 Subject: Chaing Breakers Message-ID: <20010509.205235.-462735.5.CelticRacing@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4,6,8 From: Tom Fitzpatrick Rick @ Fast Lane Cycles keeps chain breakers in stock. Tom Fitzpatrick CCS#80'6 (www.celticracing.com) Sponsors: *Fast Lane Cycles - fastlanecycles@XXXXXX (703)818-8890 (www.fastlanecycles.com) *Barnacle Bill's Racing Leathers - barnacle@XXXXXX (www.racingleather.com) *A.F.S. Contractor Inc.-Home Insurance Recovery Specialist (www.unitedwebuild.com/afs.html) *Janet Bell TAX Preparation, Accounting and Consulting (belljan@XXXXXX) From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 21:03:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13305.mail.yahoo.com (web13305.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4A132O08079 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 21:03:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010510010300.8188.qmail@web13305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.23.60.131] by web13305.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 09 May 2001 18:03:00 PDT Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:03:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Tchaka To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii These must be REALLY new 'cause two weekends I did a "Valentine-1 test" of the Parkway from Key Bridge down to Dangerfield Island and not a single beep (other than the speed radar set up telling drivers how fast/slow they're driving....but that's been around). > Subject: Photo radar speed enforcement > > from an article on photo radar on George Washington Memorial [snip] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 9 22:01:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from worldbank.org (wbln0014.worldbank.org [138.220.29.7]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4A21VO08983 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from WBLN0014.worldbank.org (wbln0014.worldbank.org) by worldbank.org (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:01:12 -0400 Subject: Summit crash video?? To: Dc-Cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a (Intl) 23 November 1999 Message-ID: From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:49:27 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/09/2001 10:01:12 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone have or have a link to the crash video at Summit Point in turn 10 where the bike launched off the embankment and into the trees?? James Itabashi The World Bank Group Site 8 SMS Administrator ISGGC - ISGITC 202-458-1697 x.81697 I2-165D jitabashi@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 08:11:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h008.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.172]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ACBeO19268 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 08:11:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 21566 invoked from network); 10 May 2001 05:11:32 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO ibm010jim) (208.167.98.62) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.172) with SMTP; 10 May 2001 05:11:32 -0700 X-Sent: 10 May 2001 12:11:32 GMT Message-ID: <006101c0d94a$5d9c1010$5302a8c0@ibm010jim> From: "Jim Caldwell" To: References: <200105092301.f49N1MC04137@dirty.meretrix.com> Subject: Tire Changing Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:11:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those without a share to the tire changer. Here's a great link on tire-change/balancing which shows how to make some fixtures to simplify the job. http://www.clarity.net/~adam/tire-changing-doc.html From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 08:49:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9708.mail.yahoo.com (web9708.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.166]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ACnfO19950 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 08:49:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010510124939.12985.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.128.166.68] by web9708.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 May 2001 05:49:39 PDT Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 05:49:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Leesburg 2nite To: DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If anyone is interested, there should be some bikes and bike folk hanging around at (the venue formerly known as) Payne's in Leesburg tonight. Our crew is usually about from 6:30 to 9:30. All brands, all ages, etc. CU, Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 10:27:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal.east.saic.com (portal.east.saic.com [198.151.13.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4AERjO21561 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:27:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclmx.saic.com by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 10 May 2001 14:27:45 UT Received: from mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:27:30 -0400 Received: from MCL-ITS-EXIG01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.12]) by mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001051010224709177 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:22:47 -0400 Received: by mcl-its-exig01.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:27:31 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Bike Wanted Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:27:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Friend of mine is interested in buying a used sportbike, ~$5K area. Anyone trying to sell hit me off-list. Matt From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 14:42:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.39]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4AIg9O25801 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:42:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.11]) id QQkole15346 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 18:42:08 GMT Received: from [153.39.168.51] by imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: macsupport10.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.168.51]) id QQkole10722 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 18:42:04 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjordan@XXXXXX Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:42:03 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Paging Linda Tanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hey, Linda, drop me a line if you would be so kind. If you do get this, please send to this address and eternity23@XXXXXX. Thanks! -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA Novice #230, MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 15:21:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe70.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.236.209]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4AJLaO26448 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:21:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:09:24 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [134.113.230.80] From: "Paul Hutchins" To: "DC Cycles" Subject: A Gentle Reminder from MC's Finest Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:10:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C0D963.4DEF6C20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2001 19:09:24.0394 (UTC) FILETIME=[B9E2E8A0:01C0D984] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C0D963.4DEF6C20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The light turns green, I go. The next light (about a half mile) turns = red, I stop. While I'm sitting, a moto cop pulls up on my left and says, "If I were = you, I'd slow it down a little." I nod (Yessir) and he replies "Just a little" and turns around. Warnings are good. I think he was sitting in a parking lot back at the first light (waiting = for red light runners). So, should I buy a lottery ticket? :-P Hutch ------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C0D963.4DEF6C20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The light turns green, I go.  = The next light (about a half mile) = turns=20 red, I stop.
 
While I'm sitting, a moto cop = pulls up on=20 my left and says, "If I were you, I'd slow it down a = little."
 
I nod (Yessir) and he replies "Just a = little"=20 and turns around.
 
Warnings are good.
 
I think he was sitting in a = parking lot=20 back at the first light (waiting for red light runners).
 
So, should I buy a lottery ticket? = :-P
 
Hutch
------=_NextPart_000_00C8_01C0D963.4DEF6C20-- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 15:24:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13806.mail.yahoo.com (web13806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4AJOoO26468 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010510192447.18677.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13806.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:24:47 PDT Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:24:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: A Gentle Reminder from MC's Finest To: Paul Hutchins , DC Cycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have had 3 stops from Moto cops (while I was on my bike). 3 Warnings Lots of cops ride....... --- Paul Hutchins wrote: > The light turns green, I go. The next light (about > a half mile) turns red, I stop. > > While I'm sitting, a moto cop pulls up on my left > and says, "If I were you, I'd slow it down a > little." > > I nod (Yessir) and he replies "Just a little" and > turns around. > > Warnings are good. > > I think he was sitting in a parking lot back at the > first light (waiting for red light runners). > > So, should I buy a lottery ticket? :-P > > Hutch > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 15:37:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp02.wcom.com (dgesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.16.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4AJbqO26715 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:37:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.36]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42261) with ESMTP id <0GD400M6SX5Z80@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 10 May 2001 19:37:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp01.wcomnet.com by pmismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GD400K01X5JFQ@XXXXXX>; Thu, 10 May 2001 19:37:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.226]) by pmismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GD400IKTX59AF@XXXXXX>; Thu, 10 May 2001 19:36:45 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:35:41 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: A Gentle Reminder from MC's Finest To: Mark Kitchell Cc: Paul Hutchins , DC Cycles Message-id: <3AFAED8D.FB0F0158@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20010510192447.18677.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Mark Kitchell wrote: > > I have had 3 stops from Moto cops (while I was on my > bike). 3 Warnings > > Lots of cops ride....... I'm 2 for 2 on the bikes. 2 stops, 2 warnings. :) -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 15:52:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpiserv2.uu.net (mail.publicintegrity.org [63.72.70.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4AJq5O26972 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:52:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CPISERV2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:48:20 -0400 Message-ID: From: eschelzig@XXXXXX To: markkitchell@XXXXXX, phutchins2@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: A Gentle Reminder from MC's Finest Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:48:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" So here's my scenario today -- I'm riding up 395 returning to work after a visit to Crossroads Cycle over lunch. In the left-hand lane there is a longish convoy of unmarked police vehicles as well as market police bus, all going about 53 miles an hour. About 300 yards further up, there is a group of three MC cops riding together with their hazard lights (blinkers) flashing. So I pull in to the ample space between the cops and the bus and cruise happily along. After a while I guess the MCers noticed me, and the back guy turns around and violently motions for me to get out of the lane. As I pass them by on the right, all three look my way and glare menacingly. So what's up with that? If it was a serious convoy, why didn't they have their blue lights flashing and why were they so far ahead of the rest of the group? What am I supposed to discern from yellow flashing lights? Confused, Erik 01 KLR650 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Kitchell [mailto:markkitchell@XXXXXX] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 3:25 PM To: Paul Hutchins; DC Cycles Subject: Re: A Gentle Reminder from MC's Finest I have had 3 stops from Moto cops (while I was on my bike). 3 Warnings Lots of cops ride....... --- Paul Hutchins wrote: > The light turns green, I go. The next light (about > a half mile) turns red, I stop. > > While I'm sitting, a moto cop pulls up on my left > and says, "If I were you, I'd slow it down a > little." > > I nod (Yessir) and he replies "Just a little" and > turns around. > > Warnings are good. > > I think he was sitting in a parking lot back at the > first light (waiting for red light runners). > > So, should I buy a lottery ticket? :-P > > Hutch > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 16:27:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net (relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net [38.9.152.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4AKRJO27563 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:27:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [208.22.178.249] (helo=mail2.watsonwyatt.com) by relay1.nce.smtp.psi.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 14xx1n-0002Dt-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:27:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:24 -0500 From: "Rob Bell" To: "zx@XXXXXX" , "VFR-digest@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Need advice/help Message-ID: <20010510162608136-139c58a@watsonwyatt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm signed up for Keith Code's school mon & tues 5/21-22 @ Pocono. The ZX will just barely be thru break-in so I'm going to take the VFR. Problem is I just got another regulator to get it running again (a spare is supposedly on the way). It's overdue for a tune-up and backfires loudly when decelerating from 6K or above so I'd really like to get it done before whipping it on the track for 2 days. Unfortunately all the shops are backlogged for at least 3 weeks. So, here's my questions: -any feedback on what needs adjusted? -will it cause damage if I run it on the track in current condition? -having limited engine maint. experience, what are the chances I can fix it w/out making it worse? other tips/suggestions welcome. TIA & keep the shiny side up! R '00 ZX-9R Voodoo '96 VFR From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 16:56:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d02.mx.aol.com (imo-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.34]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4AKucO27968 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id a.d3.147f82c0 (15857); Thu, 10 May 2001 16:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web42.aolmail.aol.com (web42.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.3]) by air-id05.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.37) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:53:56 2000 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:53:55 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need advice/help To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Ummm...stupid question but, since it appears you signed up for the 2-day camp, why don't you just use their bike? It's already included in your admission fee as well as all the protective gear. That's what I did when I took the class. I'd rather trash their bike instead of mine. Ride your bike up and use theirs on the track. If you just want to see how your bike handles on the track, ride it for a few laps and, if it gives you problems, switch out to theirs. Just my .02. Scooter In a message dated Thu, 10 May 2001 4:29:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Rob Bell" writes: << I'm signed up for Keith Code's school mon & tues 5/21-22 @ Pocono. The ZX will just barely be thru break-in so I'm going to take the VFR. Problem is I just got another regulator to get it running again (a spare is supposedly on the way). It's overdue for a tune-up and backfires loudly when decelerating from 6K or above so I'd really like to get it done before whipping it on the track for 2 days. Unfortunately all the shops are backlogged for at least 3 weeks. So, here's my questions: -any feedback on what needs adjusted? -will it cause damage if I run it on the track in current condition? -having limited engine maint. experience, what are the chances I can fix it w/out making it worse? other tips/suggestions welcome. TIA & keep the shiny side up! R '00 ZX-9R Voodoo '96 VFR >> From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 17:13:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h007.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.171]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ALD6O28284 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:13:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 21949 invoked from network); 10 May 2001 14:12:58 -0700 Received: from w156.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net (HELO laura) (216.112.246.156) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.171) with SMTP; 10 May 2001 14:12:58 -0700 X-Sent: 10 May 2001 21:12:58 GMT Message-ID: <011701c0d996$1db99fc0$9cf670d8@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: , , References: Subject: Re: Need advice/help Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:13:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > Ummm...stupid question but, since it appears you signed up for the 2-day camp, why don't you just use their bike? it costs $200 more to use their bikes. :-) LAG From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 17:18:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ALIMO28375 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:17:24 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:16:06 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , , , Subject: Re: Need advice/help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4ALIOO28376 Hi Rob, I will be at the same class for the Monday session (riding their bikes though) I will see you there. Does your VFR have a aftermarket exhaust? That could cause backfires indicating a lean condition. Ride your ZX9 around for the next two weeks and change the oil, check the chain also. That's probably more than the dealer will do. I don't think you will do any damage to the VFR on the track even in its current condition. Buy some good tools, A shop manual and do the work yourself. Working on your own bikes is a fun part of the whole MC experience IMHO. Besides no-one is going to care more about your stuff then you. Regards, George Cole 00 VFR 99 R6 for Track days >>> "Rob Bell" 05/10/01 05:24PM >>> I'm signed up for Keith Code's school mon & tues 5/21-22 @ Pocono. The ZX will just barely be thru break-in so I'm going to take the VFR. Problem is I just got another regulator to get it running again (a spare is supposedly on the way). It's overdue for a tune-up and backfires loudly when decelerating from 6K or above so I'd really like to get it done before whipping it on the track for 2 days. Unfortunately all the shops are backlogged for at least 3 weeks. So, here's my questions: -any feedback on what needs adjusted? -will it cause damage if I run it on the track in current condition? -having limited engine maint. experience, what are the chances I can fix it w/out making it worse? other tips/suggestions welcome. TIA & keep the shiny side up! R '00 ZX-9R Voodoo '96 VFR From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 19:10:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r13.mx.aol.com (imo-r13.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.67]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4ANAmO00332 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 19:10:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RacerGirl435@XXXXXX by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.8.1411fcd7 (18409) for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 19:10:40 -0400 (EDT) From: RacerGirl435@XXXXXX Message-ID: <8.1411fcd7.282c79f0@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:10:40 EDT Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 In a message dated 5/10/2001 7:02:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX writes: << Subject: Summit crash video?? To: Dc-Cycles@XXXXXX From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:49:27 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/09/2001 10:01:12 PM Does anyone have or have a link to the crash video at Summit Point in turn 10 where the bike launched off the embankment and into the trees?? >> James, unless that was YOU in that crash why would you want to see such a thing? I saw a fair amount of crashes that weekend and hope to never see anything like that again. I still don't understand what enjoyment people get out of watching them over and over. To each their own I guess. Okay, off soap box. Jess From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 19:18:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from msnawa58.usi.net (msnawa58.usi.net [209.135.43.202]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ANICO00498 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 19:18:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105102318.f4ANICO00498@dirty.meretrix.com> Received: by msnaex05.usi.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 10 May 2001 19:17:04 -0400 From: "Bell, Rob" To: "\"dc-cycles@XXXXXX\" " Subject: RE: Need advice/help Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:18:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Scooter suggested. Ummm...stupid question but, since it appears you signed up for the 2-day camp, why don't you just use their bike? It's already included in your admission fee as well as all the protective gear. No. valid question but I'm signed up for 2 consecutive 1day sessions not the 2day camp. They run them separately. I'm sure you know but for others, the 2day camp is strictly done on their bikes, includes the lean/slide bike, much more video and (here it comes) costs 2000+ bucks IIRC. Each one day is ~$400 your bike or ~$600 on theirs. In addition to improving my skills which I like getting to know my bike better by riding it on the track. George added: I will be at the same class for the Monday session (riding their bikes though) I will see you there. Does your VFR have a aftermarket exhaust? That could cause backfires indicating a lean condition. Cool see you there! I've got a blue/silver dodge Ram and will be on either a Mica ZX-9 or red VFR. The VFR has stock exhaust but a K&N. (had a micron on but sold it in anticipation of selling bike) Keep the shiny side up! R '00 ZX-9R Voodoo '96 VFR From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 20:31:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com [207.46.181.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4B0VFO01668 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:31:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavilion ([63.15.236.157]) by cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Thu, 10 May 2001 17:31:07 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:35:44 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <8.1411fcd7.282c79f0@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2001 00:31:08.0381 (UTC) FILETIME=[ABF590D0:01C0D9B1] For someone like me who does not particularly like racing or watching racing. The crashing part is the only cool thing about racing. Whenever i watch races on tv i always keep my fingers crossed for someone to crash, the nastier the better. Racing is so boring, crashing is so neat. I would like to watch a race with various obstacles in the way, like curves, hills, holes, mud, ice, sleet all in one with all sorts of machines suited for the task. Vmaxes, gsxr750, honda africa twins etc.. Now that would be intersting, going around in a loop making turns is just mind numbing. Ricardo Pontes 1998 Triumph Tiger In a message dated 5/10/2001 7:02:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX writes: << Subject: Summit crash video?? To: Dc-Cycles@XXXXXX From: jitabashi@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:49:27 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on WBLN0014/Facility/World Bank(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/09/2001 10:01:12 PM Does anyone have or have a link to the crash video at Summit Point in turn 10 where the bike launched off the embankment and into the trees?? >> James, unless that was YOU in that crash why would you want to see such a thing? I saw a fair amount of crashes that weekend and hope to never see anything like that again. I still don't understand what enjoyment people get out of watching them over and over. To each their own I guess. Okay, off soap box. Jess From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 20:34:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4B0Y7O01679 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:34:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p60.a2.du.radix.net [207.192.129.188]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA14320; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:33:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: , , , Subject: RE: A Gentle Reminder from MC's Finest Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:36:31 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01c0d9b2$6d10d680$bc81c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-reply-to: So here's my scenario today -- I'm riding up 395 returning to work after a visit to Crossroads Cycle over lunch. In the left-hand lane there is a longish convoy of unmarked police vehicles as well as market police bus, all going about 53 miles an hour. About 300 yards further up, there is a group of three MC cops riding together with their hazard lights (blinkers) flashing. So I pull in to the ample space between the cops and the bus and cruise happily along. After a while I guess the MCers noticed me, and the back guy turns around and violently motions for me to get out of the lane. As I pass them by on the right, all three look my way and glare menacingly. So what's up with that? If it was a serious convoy, why didn't they have their blue lights flashing and why were they so far ahead of the rest of the group? What am I supposed to discern from yellow flashing lights? Funeral procession maybe ? how about a dignitary ? Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 20:41:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4B0fsO01795 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:41:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p60.a2.du.radix.net [207.192.129.188]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA17435; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:41:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Ricardo Pontes'" , "'Dccycles'" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:44:17 -0400 Message-ID: <000e01c0d9b3$82fbfe60$bc81c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-reply-to: For someone like me who does not particularly like racing or watching racing. The crashing part is the only cool thing about racing. Whenever i watch races on tv i always keep my fingers crossed for someone to crash, the nastier the better. Racing is so boring, crashing is so neat. At this point I'm wondering to myself... This has to be one of two things: 1: Flame bait or 2: Gimer trying to start something ;-) (just kidding Tom) I would like to watch a race with various obstacles in the way, like curves, hills, holes, mud, ice, sleet all in one with all sorts of machines suited for the task. Vmaxes, gsxr750, honda africa twins etc.. Now that would be intersting, going around in a loop making turns is just mind numbing. it's mind numbing if you're going 15 mph, but when you're going from 140 down to 60 for turn 1 at Summit, I can assure you, it is a damn sight far from mind numbing. :) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 20:51:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4B0pSO02040 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:51:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-66.patriot.net [209.249.180.66]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4B0p3M13757; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:51:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3AFB361B.B9EF3588@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:45:16 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Yates CC: eschelzig@XXXXXX, markkitchell@XXXXXX, phutchins2@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: A Gentle Reminder from MC's Finest References: <000c01c0d9b2$6d10d680$bc81c0cf@nih.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Yates wrote: > So here's my scenario today -- I'm riding up 395 returning to work after > a > visit to Crossroads Cycle over lunch. In the left-hand lane there is a > longish convoy of unmarked police vehicles as well as market police bus, > all > going about 53 miles an hour. About 300 yards further up, there is a > group > of three MC cops riding together with their hazard lights (blinkers) > flashing. So I pull in to the ample space between the cops and the bus > and > cruise happily along. After a while I guess the MCers noticed me, and > the > back guy turns around and violently motions for me to get out of the > lane. > As I pass them by on the right, all three look my way and glare > menacingly. > > So what's up with that? If it was a serious convoy, why didn't they > have > their blue lights flashing and why were they so far ahead of the rest of > the > group? What am I supposed to discern from yellow flashing lights? > > Funeral procession maybe ? how about a dignitary ? > > Dunno what the deal was, but you never break a convoy. Especially one where the convoyers are all packing guns! Bill From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 20:58:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4B0wSO02140 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:58:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p60.a2.du.radix.net [207.192.129.188]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA25593; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:58:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'William J. Huson'" Cc: , , , Subject: RE: A Gentle Reminder from MC's Finest Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:00:40 -0400 Message-ID: <001301c0d9b5$d0904e40$bc81c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-reply-to: <3AFB361B.B9EF3588@patriot.net> Dunno what the deal was, but you never break a convoy. Especially one where the convoyers are all packing guns! That my friend, is why I moved to the Commonwealth :) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 22:35:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (thehub.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4B2ZhO03918 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 22:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from micron (dialas-238.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.238]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA32409 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 22:35:10 -0400 Posted-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:35:10 -0400 Message-ID: <007c01c0d9be$08492980$48a4fccd@micron> From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: A squish on Pennsylvania Ave. Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:59:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Like a huge bug the dump truck ground the old sedan broadside into the street. This I saw in my left rearview (opposite lanes) after hearing the truck-brake squeal. The sedan was still pretty square and just ceasing motion, it appeared, though I'd bet the rightside (frontmost) wheels were nubs. Didn't see the initial crunch, so I don't know about fault. It happened about 10:30a as I was travelling east on Pa. Ave., a couple of blocks past the Anacostia overpass. I didn't stop -- there was lots of other traffic that must have had a better view. Most remarkable to me was the surreal afterthought -- the complete dominance of the dump truck was a mimic of Schwarznegger overkill -- a filmclip just run through my rearview. Hope the wounds were minimal. It's bumper carts out there. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> Coming up on 25K -- Do I get silver pipes, boss? Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 10 23:24:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (thehub.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4B3O5O04646 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 23:24:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from micron (dialas-33.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.33]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA01655 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 23:23:58 -0400 Posted-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 23:23:58 -0400 Message-ID: <008e01c0d9c4$99bea740$48a4fccd@micron> From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: DC registration renewals kaput Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:46:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I waited and waited for my mailin registration renewal (exp 5/14). Nothing. Finally last Monday I made the requisite calls to DC DMV. It turns out many renewals were not sent -- computer malaise. So the trek to C street was made (9:30a) which turned out to be relatively painless (except this year the charge was $55 -- last year $40. They said the extra was an "inspection prepayment of $25 for two years and that next year my fee will be $30". Whew. Will a healthy computer be able to keep up with that?) Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> My tail is getting sticker-heavy Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 00:19:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4B4J4O05503 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 00:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-91-215.s596.tnt5.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.91.215] helo=l4rite) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14y4OM-0005PX-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 11 May 2001 00:19:02 -0400 Message-ID: <01fb01c0d9ea$35489de0$d75b2c42@l4rite> From: "L4rite" To: References: Subject: Re: Kawasaki Parts Online? Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 00:15:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Subject: Kawasaki Parts Online? Does anyone know where I can order Kawasaki parts online or via mail order? Many thanks. Jill D Go to http://www.buykawasaki.com , should be able to find what you need there....later Les.... From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 07:38:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BBc4O12893 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 07:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p61.a8.du.radix.net [207.192.132.189]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA16249; Fri, 11 May 2001 07:37:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'mobacc'" , "'DC-Cycles'" Subject: RE: DC registration renewals kaput Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 07:39:19 -0400 Message-ID: <002101c0da0f$31c78da0$bc81c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-reply-to: <008e01c0d9c4$99bea740$48a4fccd@micron> I waited and waited for my mailin registration renewal (exp 5/14). Nothing. Finally last Monday I made the requisite calls to DC DMV. It turns out many renewals were not sent -- computer malaise. So the trek to C street was made (9:30a) which turned out to be relatively painless (except this year the charge was $55 -- last year $40. They said the extra was an "inspection prepayment of $25 for two years and that next year my fee will be $30". Whew. Will a healthy computer be able to keep up with that?) Hmm... seems like the DC governments has been like this forever... because it has. Home rule. It was a bad idea then, it's an even worse Idea now. Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 08:44:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BCiwO14040 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 08:44:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-47-15.s269.tnt4.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.47.15]) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14yCHw-0003yW-00 ; Fri, 11 May 2001 08:44:56 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:40:45 +0000 Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput From: "Paul Wilson" To: Dave Yates , "'mobacc'" , "'DC-Cycles'" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: They used to add a ten dollar inspection fee every year, even though your vehicles only needed to be inspected every two years. Go figure. For my scoot it was $30 to register, $10 for inspection and another $10 for a residential parking permit. Sounds like they've reduced the inspection fee to $15 for two years. A fee was actually reduced?! I always use the on-line renewal system for our vehicles and get our stickers in plenty of time. DC DMV is _vastly_ improved from the days of our first encounters with the system in 1998. It was truly Kafkaesque back then. No matter how many documents you brought, they would always want something else. I've moved around to lots of parts of the country, and I'd never been asked my actual Social Security card until I moved to DC. I've lived in VA, too, and it's not much better, BTW, so don't get too smug. Home is a good idea, too bad true home rule has never actually been tried. Instead we have a Congressional playpen masquerading as a city government. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F (just bought it, need to do to DC DMV) ---------- >From: "Dave Yates" > > I waited and waited for my mailin registration renewal (exp 5/14). > Nothing. > Finally last Monday I made the requisite calls to DC DMV. It turns out > many > renewals were not sent -- computer malaise. > > So the trek to C street was made (9:30a) which turned out to be > relatively > painless (except this year the charge was $55 -- last year $40. They > said > the extra was an "inspection prepayment of $25 for two years and that > next > year my fee will be $30". Whew. Will a healthy computer be able to > keep up > with that?) > > Hmm... seems like the DC governments has been like this forever... > because it has. > Home rule. It was a bad idea then, it's an even worse Idea now. > > Dave Yates From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 08:58:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9704.mail.yahoo.com (web9704.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.140]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BCwZO14288 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 08:58:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010511125833.95721.qmail@web9704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.41] by web9704.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 05:58:33 PDT Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 05:58:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: Bikes and Bars To: DCC In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii They don't usually tear up the sidewalk right in the middle of the doorway. Sorry about that. I guess nobody from DCC came to Payne's last night. There was a table with three youngish bikey people whose faces I didn't recognize, but they denied any knowledge of DC-Cycles. Ah well. Maybe next time. CU, Rich __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 09:09:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BD9UO14480 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (dialup20.megapipe.net [208.218.73.20]) by netgate.anent.com (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA07074 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:07:24 -0400 Message-ID: <005101c0da1b$e102c080$1449dad0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: "DC Cycles" References: <20010511125833.95721.qmail@web9704.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Bikes and Bars Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:11:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Yeah, we rode by and saw the construction, and a couple bikes parked up the street, so we rode up to P'ville. Peter was there and leaving to go to Payne's. We told him about the construction and he said he might be back but never returned. The four of us got something to eat at The White Palace and hung out for a while. A couple showed up on a Valkyrie but we never got to talk to them. Split for home around 9pm. Nice weather made for a pleasant evening. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scratch" > They don't usually tear up the sidewalk right in the > middle of the doorway. Sorry about that. > > I guess nobody from DCC came to Payne's last night. > There was a table with three youngish bikey people > whose faces I didn't recognize, but they denied any > knowledge of DC-Cycles. > > Ah well. Maybe next time. > > CU, > > Rich From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 09:21:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11501.mail.yahoo.com (web11501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.46]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BDLBO14744 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:21:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010511132108.2983.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.254.76.22] by web11501.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 06:21:08 PDT Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:21:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Subject: Used bike guide? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone know where I can find a used bike price guide? A friend of mine is interested in buying a ZX-6E, 98 model with 10K miles and the only guide I know of is on MCN and its two years old: http://www.MCNews.com/articles/ubvg99.html Thanx Glenn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 09:29:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web510.mail.yahoo.com (web510.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.225]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BDTIO14852 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010511132916.12009.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.42.91] by web510.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 06:29:16 PDT Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:29:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Used bike guide? To: Glenn Dysart , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010511132108.2983.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii $4735 in the spring '01 edition --- Glenn Dysart wrote: > Anyone know where I can find a used bike price guide? > A friend of mine is interested in buying a ZX-6E, 98 > model with 10K miles and the only guide I know of is > on MCN and its two years old: > > http://www.MCNews.com/articles/ubvg99.html > > Thanx ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 09:34:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from netgate.anent.com (netgate.anent.com [208.195.115.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BDYjO14948 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:34:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bruce (dialup20.megapipe.net [208.218.73.20]) by netgate.anent.com (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA07310 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:32:40 -0400 Message-ID: <00ba01c0da1f$689c77e0$1449dad0@bruce> From: "Bruce Norton" To: References: <20010511132108.2983.qmail@web11501.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Used bike guide? Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:36:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 What about www.nada.com and www.kbb.com ? Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Dysart" > Anyone know where I can find a used bike price guide? > A friend of mine is interested in buying a ZX-6E, 98 > model with 10K miles and the only guide I know of is > on MCN and its two years old: > > http://www.MCNews.com/articles/ubvg99.html > > Thanx > > Glenn From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 09:43:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal.east.saic.com (portal.east.saic.com [198.151.13.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BDhLO15139 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclmx.saic.com by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 11 May 2001 13:43:21 UT Received: from mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:43:07 -0400 Received: from MCL-ITS-EXIG01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.12]) by mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001051109382314346 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:38:23 -0400 Received: by mcl-its-exig01.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:43:08 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'Glenn Dysart'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Used bike guide? Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:43:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" try www.nada.com -----Original Message----- From: Glenn Dysart [mailto:glenn_dysart@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 9:21 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Used bike guide? Anyone know where I can find a used bike price guide? A friend of mine is interested in buying a ZX-6E, 98 model with 10K miles and the only guide I know of is on MCN and its two years old: http://www.MCNews.com/articles/ubvg99.html Thanx Glenn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 10:21:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web3704.mail.yahoo.com (web3704.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.133]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BELCO15810 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:21:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010511142111.1168.qmail@web3704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.133.22.67] by web3704.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 07:21:10 PDT Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 07:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Knapik Subject: One of us??? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anybody know what happened on Avery road in Rockville yesterday evening? The wife came home telling me she passed a cop near a blue bike that looked like it didn't make a turn near Redgate Golf Course. Emergency vehicles were already leaving the scene and it didn't look like the rider was anywhere near by. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 10:27:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BERGO15890 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members.fcac.org (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4BERAT11020 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:27:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:27:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: One of us??? In-Reply-To: <20010511142111.1168.qmail@web3704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 11 May 2001, Tom Knapik wrote: >Anybody know what happened on Avery road in Rockville >yesterday evening? The wife came home telling me she >passed a cop near a blue bike that looked like it >didn't make a turn near Redgate Golf Course. It wasn't me but I did go over the hood of a car there once... Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) DCOffroad - the Wash, DC area offroad e-mail list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcoffroad/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 10:41:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BEexO16098 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:40:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:40:59 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E495@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: RE: DC registration renewals kaput Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:40:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" My .02 having moved here from Cali, I can say that VA DMV was so good I thought I'd died and gone to Heaven. The first time I saw a DMV in a MALL with exactly 3 people in line I knew I was in a state with some intelligence at the helm. Where I grew up, car registration required an advance appointment a several vacation days; I once watched the clerk at the head of my line celebrate retirement before I could get to the counter. I've never had the displeasure of dealing with the DC DMV but I have had to deal with their building inspectors and I understand why businesses would find the Love Canal to be a sunny alternative. Having worked in this city for several years I can say it's made tremendous improvements, but frankly they are totally incapable of handling Home Rule and I expect it to happen shortly after primates aviate from my posterior. The recent attempt to impose blanket health care coverage on all employers regardless of conscious clauses was a prime example; fortunately Congress stepped in and spanked that legislation into the ground. Cedric I've lived in VA, too, and it's not much better, BTW, so don't get too smug. Home is a good idea, too bad true home rule has never actually been tried. Instead we have a Congressional playpen masquerading as a city government. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F (just bought it, need to do to DC DMV) From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 10:49:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BEn2O16262 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:49:03 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E496@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: RE: One of us??? Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:49:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nope, but I stopped for a wicked van fire on I-66. I've only been around one car fire before which was out in seconds but this was nasty. Another car saw this minivan going 65 mph with smoke coming out and took over a mile to get the driver to pull over. The driver climbed out about .05 seconds before flames 10 feet high shot out of the thing. If he'd gone one more exit, he'd have been under the heading of "well done". I pulled over to make sure everyone got out and that 911 had been called. Turned out he had just picked it up from the mechanic. My guess is that a refund is definitely in order. The flames then shot up to 25 feet and blew the gas tank and all four tires. The barrier on the side of the road then caught fire too. Thankfully he was the only passenger. With my first child on the way, this gave me images I really didn't want to have. Ride safe out there, carry a fire extinguisher and if someone in the car next to you is waving, look for smoke... Cedric -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Roy [mailto:kirk@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:27 AM To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: One of us??? On Fri, 11 May 2001, Tom Knapik wrote: >Anybody know what happened on Avery road in Rockville >yesterday evening? The wife came home telling me she >passed a cop near a blue bike that looked like it >didn't make a turn near Redgate Golf Course. It wasn't me but I did go over the hood of a car there once... Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) DCOffroad - the Wash, DC area offroad e-mail list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcoffroad/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 10:55:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com (imo-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.35]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BEt3O16374 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id a.3c.b85f250 (15901); Fri, 11 May 2001 10:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web38.aolmail.aol.com (web38.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.14]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.37) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:54:50 2000 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:54:50 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Need advice/help To: Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <3c.b85f250.282d573b@aol.com> Ahhhh....I see said the blind man. Hmmm....price has gone up for the 2-day. When I took it last year I think it was $1600 or $1700 and you had your choice of riding your bike or theirs and using your gear or theirs. Since I was paying for it, I used it. Have fun. Scooter In a message dated Thu, 10 May 2001 7:20:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Bell, Rob" writes: << Scooter suggested. Ummm...stupid question but, since it appears you signed up for the 2-day camp, why don't you just use their bike? It's already included in your admission fee as well as all the protective gear. No. valid question but I'm signed up for 2 consecutive 1day sessions not the 2day camp. They run them separately. I'm sure you know but for others, the 2day camp is strictly done on their bikes, includes the lean/slide bike, much more video and (here it comes) costs 2000+ bucks IIRC. Each one day is ~$400 your bike or ~$600 on theirs. In addition to improving my skills which I like getting to know my bike better by riding it on the track. George added: I will be at the same class for the Monday session (riding their bikes though) I will see you there. Does your VFR have a aftermarket exhaust? That could cause backfires indicating a lean condition. Cool see you there! I've got a blue/silver dodge Ram and will be on either a Mica ZX-9 or red VFR. The VFR has stock exhaust but a K&N. (had a micron on but sold it in anticipation of selling bike) Keep the shiny side up! R '00 ZX-9R Voodoo '96 VFR >> From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 11:00:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BF07O16539 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:59:11 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:58:09 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: Subject: First Track Day.. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4BF1TO16540 Hey All, I did my fist track day at Summit Point last Friday and it was awesome. I knew I would be. I have been to the race track many times as a spectator, but never as a participant. Funny, the track seems a lots smaller and shorter when you are riding on it. If you ride fast on the street you need to try this....nothing on the street comes close. This is what these machines are designed for. On the street Its hard to redline the R6 without getting into trouble, but on the race track I was always in the upper revs. For the speed freaks out there I was routinely hitting 150+ (indicated) on the main straight. Passing was allowed (on the outside only or on the straights) even in the beginner group (me). I will be going back June 8th for a NESBA day, and hitting some other circuits later this year. Looks like I may have to get a racing license next , Who needs a bank account anyway. Regards, George Cole 00 VFR 99 R6 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 11:02:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BF2qO16551 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:02:03 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:01:23 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , Subject: RE: One of us??? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4BF4EO16552 I always knew those Minivans were dangerous. The Govt should ban them. >>> Cedric Bernescut wrote . Another car saw this minivan going 65 mph with smoke coming out and took over a mile to get the driver to pull over. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 11:09:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BF9EO16669 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-45-60.s314.tnt3.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.45.60] helo=66.44.45.60) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14yEXX-0000d2-00 ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:09:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3AFC00BD.6753@starpower.net> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:09:50 -0400 From: Paul Wilson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-SP32599 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cedric Bernescut CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput References: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E495@NCEAEXCHANGE> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cedric Bernescut wrote: > I've never > had the displeasure of dealing with the DC DMV but I have had to deal with > their building inspectors and I understand why businesses would find the > Love Canal to be a sunny alternative. Having worked in this city for > several years I can say it's made tremendous improvements, but frankly they > are totally incapable of handling Home Rule and I expect it to happen > shortly after primates aviate from my posterior. The recent attempt to > impose blanket health care coverage on all employers regardless of conscious > clauses was a prime example; fortunately Congress stepped in and spanked > that legislation into the ground. > Cedric > It wasn't Congress that stepped in. Mayor Williams vetoed that bill. Yes, DCRA is still largely a swamp that needs to be drained, but my professional dealings with building inspectors has been largely positive. Some of the worst ones were fired for being on the take. Ever tried pulling a permit in Fairfax? Not much better, IMNSHO. Our firm had endless hassles with one of their so-called "professional engineers" who couldn't read a set of plans if his life depended on it. As for the "incapable of handling Home Rule" I can name a few states that at certain points in their history were manifestly incapable. People have a natural right to self governance, it's not something to be granted or not granted only if they are "deserving." Plenty of George III's advisors tut-tutted about those bumpkin colonials being incapable and undeserving back in the 1770s. I think the charming phrase used later under the British Empire was "White Man's Burden." OB moto: when are they going to put "Taxation without Representation" on the MC plates? Paul From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 11:46:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from typhoon.pop3now.com ([209.208.170.227]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BFkiO17350 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:43:48 -0400 Message-Id: <200105111543.LAA29235@typhoon.pop3now.com> From: To: pawilson@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput Paul asserted: > It wasn't Congress that stepped in. Mayor Williams vetoed that bill. > Yes, DCRA is still largely a swamp that needs to be drained, but my > professional dealings with building inspectors has been largely > positive. Bldg inspectors ? bah. just look at their roads. Riding in DC is made that much more hazardous because the roads are no better than a West By God Virginia goat path. How 'bout that emergency service ? Fire Dept? Police ? > Some of the worst ones were fired for being on the take. Ever > tried pulling a permit in Fairfax? Not much better, IMNSHO. And I second that. I did that years ago. I remember my boss telling me 'take a book and lunch'. he was not kidding. ... > "incapable of handling Home Rule" I can name a few states that at > certain points in their history were manifestly incapable. People have > a natural right to self governance, it's not something to be granted or > not granted only if they are "deserving." DC was set aside specifically as the seat of the Federal Government. Nobody's holding DC residents prisoner inside the city line... Plenty of George III's > advisors tut-tutted about those bumpkin colonials being incapable and > undeserving back in the 1770s. I think the charming phrase used later > under the British Empire was "White Man's Burden." see what happened to the Brits, right ? > > OB moto: when are they going to put "Taxation without Representation" > on the MC plates? What a crock of >>>>. they can have representation when they start recognizing the citizens' RIGHTS. Hopefully, some angry congressman with nothing better to do will change the plates by legislation to read DC where you have no rights! Dave -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 11:56:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [209.249.185.20]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BFuWO17464 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:56:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by mail.zen-data.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4BFuPj04028 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:56:25 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010511115128.0256f2d0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:54:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput In-Reply-To: <200105111543.LAA29235@typhoon.pop3now.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:43 AM 5/11/01, sdave@XXXXXX wrote: >Riding in DC is >made that much more hazardous because the roads are no better than a >West By God Virginia goat path. West Virginia BY FAR has the best goat paths of any state. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 Member : AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA It is a weak mind that can think of only one way to spell a word. - Mark Twain From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 12:05:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13808.mail.yahoo.com (web13808.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BG5aO17693 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:05:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010511160533.16183.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13808.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:05:33 PDT Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:05:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput To: sdave@XXXXXX, pawilson@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <200105111543.LAA29235@typhoon.pop3now.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > What does that mean. What rights does DC deny its citizens? The right to own a handgun? Give me a break. Many many cities (New York, Chicago) ban handguns and they still have representation in Congress. > OB moto: when are they going to put "Taxation without Representation" > on the MC plates? What a crock of >>>>. they can have representation when they start recognizing the citizens' RIGHTS. Hopefully, some angry congressman with nothing better to do will change the plates by legislation to read DC where you have no rights! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 12:12:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from usnews.com (usnews.com [209.116.158.34]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BGCNO17789 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:12:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from UBOSER (UBOSER [10.150.101.26]) by usn-dc2.usnews.com (NTMail 3.03.0017/4c.ahim) with ESMTP id la125019 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:11:58 -0400 Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010511120649.00b49b70@ntpop.usnews.com> X-Sender: editboser@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:11:39 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Ulrich Boser Subject: FOR SALE In-Reply-To: <200105102300.f4AN0Eh00131@dirty.meretrix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello, I am looking to sell my 1982 GS 650 with 7,000 miles. The bike has new tires (only 400 miles on them) and comes with a battery that is less than a year old, a cover, cans of blue GS 650 paint, and a sissy bar. I bought the bike about 6 months ago for $1,100 from its second owner. It was garage kept and in good condition. I had it tuned-up, carbs synchronized, and new break-pads put in. I purchased it, so that I could learn how to ride and, now having been successful, am now looking to move up in cc. If you have doubts abt these 1980s bikes, ck out www.gsresources.com. If you want a picture, email me at uboser@XXXXXX. I would like to sell at $1,000 but am happy to negotiate. Thanks, Ulrich From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 13:27:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from typhoon.pop3now.com ([209.208.170.227]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BHR7O18961 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:27:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:24:11 -0400 Message-Id: <200105111724.NAA15789@typhoon.pop3now.com> From: To: markkitchell@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput > > > What does that mean. What rights does DC deny its > citizens? > > The right to own a handgun? Give me a break. Many > many cities (New York, Chicago) ban handguns and they > still have representation in Congress. I'll go with that & the total lack of due process if you ever get a ticket in DC... -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 13:39:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13807.mail.yahoo.com (web13807.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BHdfO19129 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:39:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010511173939.29647.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13807.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:39:39 PDT Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput To: sdave@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <200105111724.NAA15789@typhoon.pop3now.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Go with what? Please make an intelligent argument as to why DC residents should not have the same rights that every other American has. Setting DC aside as a protected federal city was done over 200 years ago for reasons that were appropriate at the time and are not valid today (a state cannot have undue influence over the Federal government in 2001). The reasons people do not want political representation for DC are usually grounded in political affiliation (DC is Democratic, yes) or racism (DC is majority black). I am not saying you are in either of these buckets, but I do not understand your arguments against DC representation. Mark --- sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > > What does that mean. What rights does DC deny its > > citizens? > > > > The right to own a handgun? Give me a break. > Many > > many cities (New York, Chicago) ban handguns and > they > > still have representation in Congress. > > I'll go with that & the total lack of due process > if you ever get a > ticket in DC... > > > > > -- > Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions > from HostNYC! > Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as > $14.95 per month > Visit HostNYC today! > http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 > > Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 > Secure Window > Sign Up Today! Visit > http://www.pop3now.com/personal > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 13:46:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.zen-data.com (mail.zen-data.com [209.249.185.20]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BHkVO19288 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:46:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com (vulture [209.249.185.69]) by mail.zen-data.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4BHkNj04271 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:46:23 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010511134255.0256f100@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:44:31 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput OFFLIST In-Reply-To: <20010511173939.29647.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> References: <200105111724.NAA15789@typhoon.pop3now.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Please save it for dccycles2 or some other states rights list. Then discuss Puerto Rico's situation at the same time. At 01:39 PM 5/11/01, Mark Kitchell wrote: >Go with what? Please make an intelligent argument as >to why DC residents should not have the same rights >that every other American has. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org Neckties can impair blood flow to the brain and interfere with clear thinking, alertness, and judgment. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 14:06:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BI5xO19620 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.39]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GD600ABDNL050@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 11 May 2001 18:05:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GD600601NKLGY@XXXXXX>; Fri, 11 May 2001 18:05:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.226]) by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GD60053KNJTXU@XXXXXX>; Fri, 11 May 2001 18:04:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:03:36 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput To: Mark Kitchell Cc: sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3AFC2978.3716C8DA@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20010511173939.29647.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Mark Kitchell wrote: > > Go with what? Please make an intelligent argument as > to why DC residents should not have the same rights > that every other American has. If DC wants the same rights other Americans have, let the city be absorbed by Maryland (since Maryland borders it on all 4 sides, yes, Maryland owns the river, too) and let DC's population figure in to Maryland's count for House seats. If you gave DC Senate Representation, they get power way beyond what their limited population warrants, i.e. 2 votes out of 102. Do you really want one smallish city to have the same voice as a large State out West? What if other cities vote to "become independent" and demand equal treatment to DC? It's a thorny issue. Didn't slikwillie have a democratic congress in his first couple years in office? If he really wanted statehood for DC, he should have pushed for it then, instead of putting "taxation without representation" tags on his limo in his final days in office. But I guess he had other things (cigars, women, chinese bribes) on his mind then. Poor guy. Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 14:07:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp01.wcom.com (pmesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.20.1]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BI77O19624 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:07:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com ([166.38.62.39]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #47837) with ESMTP id <0GD600661NNEMO@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 11 May 2001 18:06:50 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pmismtp04.wcomnet.com by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with SMTP id <0GD600701NMH2U@XXXXXX>; Fri, 11 May 2001 18:06:49 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.226]) by pmismtp04.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42258) with ESMTP id <0GD60063ZNLVPP@XXXXXX>; Fri, 11 May 2001 18:05:55 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:04:50 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput OFFLIST To: Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3AFC29C2.C4A894BF@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <200105111724.NAA15789@typhoon.pop3now.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20010511134255.0256f100@XXXXXX> Troutman wrote: > > Please save it for dccycles2 or some other states rights list. Then > discuss Puerto Rico's situation at the same time. Crap, meant to switch my reply over to DCC2, forgot until after I hit 'send'. Apologies. Horkster -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 14:35:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mongoose.slip.net (www2.sntccaidc.firstworld.net [216.127.92.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BIZpO20104 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:35:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from shell.slip.net ([207.171.193.17] helo=slip-3.slip.net) by mongoose.slip.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #3) id 14yHj0-0001fh-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:33:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:35:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: ISP problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My ISP effed up big time. I apologise if a bunch of messages got bounced back to the list. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 14:40:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4BIeRO20138 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:40:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool180-26.patriot.net [209.249.180.26]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4BIeGM00584; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:40:16 -0400 Message-ID: <3AFC30B3.3BF4ED8B@patriot.net> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:34:28 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dale Horstman CC: Mark Kitchell , sdave@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput References: <20010511173939.29647.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> <3AFC2978.3716C8DA@home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dale Horstman wrote: > If you gave DC Senate Representation, they get > power way beyond what their limited population > warrants, i.e. 2 votes out of 102. Do you > really want one smallish city to have the same > voice as a large State out West? What if other > cities vote to "become independent" and demand > equal treatment to DC? It's a thorny issue. > And the population of a few of those out west states? Or are we voting by the square mile now? Bill From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 14:54:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14004.mail.yahoo.com (web14004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.120]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BIsQO20375 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:54:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010511185424.42421.qmail@web14004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.229.31.23] by web14004.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:54:24 PDT Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:54:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <3AFC30B3.3BF4ED8B@patriot.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think this is being approached from the wrong direction. The statement that DC has adopted to tell us about their woes is "Taxation without Representation" The solution is simple. Exempt District residents from Federal Taxes, revoke their right to vote and call it a done deal. Give them what they ask for. Taxation without representation is unfair, stop taxing them. ObMoto - Where did all those bikes come from. Are we supposed migrate like birds? If so, can someone tell me where I'm supposed to be in January. Leon. --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > And the population of a few of those out west > states? Or are we voting > by the square mile now? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 15:04:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13803.mail.yahoo.com (web13803.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.13]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BJ4uO20555 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 15:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010511190454.97865.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13803.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:04:54 PDT Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:04:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Paging Brian Roach To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Brian, can you email me? Thanks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 15:38:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9009.mail.yahoo.com (web9009.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.171]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4BJcmO21120 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 15:38:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010511193846.65189.qmail@web9009.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.8.43.134] by web9009.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:38:46 PDT Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: Race Report: 4/21-22 Summit Point To: Race@XXXXXX, SV650@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii The latest report is at: http://www.wera.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000043.html Enjoy! ===== Steve Clark '99 Suz SV 650 - WERA #16, CCS #167, MARRC #2352 Sponsors: http://www.FastLaneCycles.com http://www.RamMC.net <- Carbon Fiber Bodywork *** Win $5000 and help an injured rider *** http://www.tightsqueezeracing.org/Raffle.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 11 22:51:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com ([205.177.16.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4C2pNO28072 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 22:51:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from micron (dialas-27.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.27]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA15199 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 22:51:20 -0400 Posted-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:51:20 -0400 Message-ID: <002601c0da8e$27294080$65a4fccd@micron> From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:49:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 "Paul Wilson" wrote: ...snip I always use the on-line renewal system for our vehicles and get our stickers in plenty of time. ...snip --------- Ahhhh, yes. I tried clicking the online renewal several times at the DC DMV website and could not access it. I mentioned this over the phone and they said it must have been another computer problem. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> My computer causes sparks too. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 12 11:53:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4CFrRO12800 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 11:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-65-241.s495.tnt6.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.65.241] helo=c9rnf01) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14ybhs-00028Y-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Sat, 12 May 2001 11:53:25 -0400 Message-ID: <001001c0dafb$851eab40$f1412c42@c9rnf01> From: "Todd Peer" To: References: <200105112301.f4BN1La24439@dirty.meretrix.com> Subject: Rather see Crashes? Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 11:52:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Ricardo Pontes'" , "'Dccycles'" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 For someone like me who does not particularly like racing or watching racing. The crashing part is the only cool thing about racing. Whenever i watch races on tv i always keep my fingers crossed for someone to crash, the nastier the better. Racing is so boring, crashing is so neat. At this point I'm wondering to myself... This has to be one of two things: 1: Flame bait or 2: Gimer trying to start something ;-) (just kidding Tom) --> Not even Gimer is this adled ;-). Just for the record, I'll keep my fingers --> crossed that no racer ever crashes. I would like to watch a race with various obstacles in the way, like curves, hills, holes, mud, ice, sleet all in one with all sorts of machines suited for the task. Vmaxes, gsxr750, honda africa twins etc.. Now that would be intersting, going around in a loop making turns is just mind numbing. it's mind numbing if you're going 15 mph, but when you're going from 140 down to 60 for turn 1 at Summit, I can assure you, it is a damn sight far from mind numbing. :) Dave Yates --> I think maybe Ricardo may be a little Retardo. At least a little slower --> in the head than some. Though I share his purient interest in witnessing --> a spectacular crash, I do not ever wish it on someone. I've worked --> in the corners at summit and have witnessed some very dire mishaps. --> It is not good and it is not something to hope for. --> --> Todd Peer (Springfield, VA) From dc-cycles-request Sat May 12 14:44:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from boo-mda02.boo.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [216.200.67.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4CIipO15369 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 14:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ppp-boonet2-83.boo.net (IDENT:nobody@XXXXXX [216.200.67.26]) by boo-mda02.boo.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA19528 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 14:44:49 -0400 Message-Id: <200105121844.OAA19528@boo-mda02.boo.net> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: redbelly@XXXXXX Subject: ATTN: MATT and HAN Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 18:44:49 GMT X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.20 Call or Email Roach about your ride to VIR. --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From dc-cycles-request Sun May 13 00:00:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (m1.boston.juno.com [64.136.24.64]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4D40YO23605 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 00:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"uoyE9tvlmSM0oHP0t1pnQyDHsQ51TywH2NNL2KVLmhypiizGqRa6IQ=="> Received: (from tgroghan@XXXXXX) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id F5ATPNMG; Sat, 12 May 2001 23:59:45 EDT To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 23:55:08 -0400 Subject: Area group rides? Message-ID: <20010512.235508.-327911.5.tgroghan@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-5 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Thad B Groghan Okay I'm looking for a group that goes riding around this area on Saturdays. When and where do you all met up? Not a newbie. Let me know, Thad tgroghan@XXXXXX ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. From dc-cycles-request Sun May 13 19:25:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com [207.46.181.78]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4DNPpO11778 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 19:25:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavilion ([63.10.42.16]) by cpimssmtpu02.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Sun, 13 May 2001 16:25:33 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: Your choice of sportbike? Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 19:30:20 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2001 23:25:33.0966 (UTC) FILETIME=[021ABAE0:01C0DC04] I am wondering if anyone has any comment on the following bikes. I have to make a choice of sportbikes, i do not really care much for ducatis or any exotic brands. What would be your choice? 1. Suzuki Gsxr750 2. Suzuki Gsxr1000 3. yamaha r1 4. Kawasaki zx11 5. Honda Cbr1100xx 6. Suzuki Hayabusa Which one of these ranks up best? Ricardo Pontes 1998 Triumph Tiger From dc-cycles-request Sun May 13 19:39:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web510.mail.yahoo.com (web510.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.225]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4DNdVO12019 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 19:39:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010513233929.4907.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.42.91] by web510.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 13 May 2001 16:39:29 PDT Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 16:39:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Your choice of sportbike? To: Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > I am wondering if anyone has any comment on the following > bikes. I have to make a choice of sportbikes, i do not > really care much for ducatis or any exotic brands. What > would be your choice? > > Suzuki Gsxr750 > yamaha r1 > Suzuki Gsxr1000 > Honda Cbr1100xx > Suzuki Hayabusa > Kawasaki zx11 > > Which one of these ranks up best? i re-arranged your list in the order of MY preference....but i'm not quite sure how that is supposed to help you. i thought you rode a tiger and a 100cc bike? be ready to be scared shitless by any of the above-listed bikes. -- tg wsdymfg; dcc; iba; hsta __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Sun May 13 20:08:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4E08dO12487 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 20:08:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p42.a7.du.radix.net [207.192.132.42]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA09950; Sun, 13 May 2001 20:08:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Tom Gimer'" , "'Ricardo Pontes'" , "'Dccycles'" Subject: RE: Your choice of sportbike? Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 20:10:34 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c0dc0a$4f06c000$2582c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010513233929.4907.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> Gimer Pontificated: -- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > > I am wondering if anyone has any comment on the following > bikes. I have to make a choice of sportbikes, i do not > really care much for ducatis or any exotic brands. What > would be your choice? > > Suzuki Gsxr750 > yamaha r1 > Suzuki Gsxr1000 > Honda Cbr1100xx > Suzuki Hayabusa > Kawasaki zx11 > > Which one of these ranks up best? i re-arranged your list in the order of MY preference....but i'm not quite sure how that is supposed to help you. Remember, Ricardo only watches racing for the crashes. It stands to reason, he only rides to crash. Therefore, we're going to need a durable bike, not a fast one. One with no fairing, so it's easily repaired... I'm thinking Nighthawk, inexpensive, easy to get parts for, I think Ricardo will enjoy human lawn darts with a Nighthawk... after all, he can have 3 or 4 for the price of any of the bikes he's got listed new... i thought you rode a tiger and a 100cc bike? be ready to be scared shitless by any of the above-listed bikes. That's half the fun :) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Sun May 13 21:13:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smgt.net (59-90-112-64-user.darwin.net [64.112.90.59] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4E1DwO13500 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 21:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 2g0up [64.44.97.125] by smgt.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id A1076E9500DA; Sun, 13 May 2001 21:12:39 -0400 From: "Ahalan" To: "dc-cycles \(E-mail\)" Subject: MC parking at National Airport Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 21:12:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000801c0dc2c$17fcf760$3e00000a@darwin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Once upon a time there was someone on here that worked at DCA that said we could park at his work place (General Aviation area if I'm not mistaken). Is that person still here ? Any other ideas on leaving the bike there for a few days ? Niv BMW F650ST From dc-cycles-request Sun May 13 21:33:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4E1XLO13800 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 21:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SBave@XXXXXX by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id q.11.14391791 (16491); Sun, 13 May 2001 21:32:57 -0400 (EDT) From: SBave@XXXXXX Message-ID: <11.14391791.28308fc8@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 21:32:56 EDT Subject: Re: MC parking at National Airport To: rdrdr@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_11.14391791.28308fc8_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 --part1_11.14391791.28308fc8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rdrdr@XXXXXX writes: > Once upon a time there was someone on here that worked at DCA that said we > could park at his work place (General Aviation area if I'm not mistaken). > > Is that person still here ? > > Any other ideas on leaving the bike there for a few days ? > > Yep...I'm still here. :) I have since changed jobs and work mostly at Dulles...I only get to DCA about once a week. Let me know your schedule and I'll try to work something out. Steve Broadstreet --part1_11.14391791.28308fc8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rdrdr@XXXXXX writes:

Once upon a time there was someone on here that worked at DCA that said we
could park at his work place (General Aviation area if I'm not mistaken).

Is that person still here ?

Any other ideas on leaving the bike there for a few days ?



Yep...I'm still here. :)
I have since changed jobs and work mostly at Dulles...I only get to DCA about
once a week. Let me know your schedule and I'll try to work something out.

Steve Broadstreet



--part1_11.14391791.28308fc8_boundary-- From dc-cycles-request Sun May 13 22:11:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h008.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.172]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4E2BNO14381 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 22:11:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 388 invoked from network); 13 May 2001 19:11:15 -0700 Received: from w156.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net (HELO laura) (216.112.246.156) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.172) with SMTP; 13 May 2001 19:11:15 -0700 X-Sent: 14 May 2001 02:11:15 GMT Message-ID: <00c101c0dc1b$3dc19b60$9cf670d8@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: "Ricardo Pontes" , "Dccycles" References: Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 22:11:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 The crashing part is the only cool thing about racing. Whenever i > watch races on tv i always keep my fingers crossed for someone to crash, the > nastier the better. Racing is so boring, crashing is so neat. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but obviously, you don't *understand* racing if you think it's boring. wishing to see anyone crash is a horrible thing and one I hope that *you* never experience yourself, or you might feel differently. LAG From dc-cycles-request Sun May 13 22:25:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r16.mx.aol.com (imo-r16.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.70]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4E2PMO14631 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 22:25:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Eternity23@XXXXXX by imo-r16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.e2.14a0a5e5 (4199) for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 22:25:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Eternity23@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 22:25:01 EDT Subject: DC-Cycles Racing Report To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 147 Well, I'm proud to announce that DC-Cycles weekend at Summit Point was a resounding success! I managed to finish rebuilding my bike on Saturday, (and managed to do it correctly!), so I was able to race 3 races today. I was running very consistent lap times, and got faster each race. Laura Granato broke in her new Aprilia RS250 this week, and will be attending the Keith Code Superbike school this week. (I believe it's this week....anywho...) Brian Roach took a third place in Middleweight Sportsman on Saturday, and is quickly making a name for himself in the Expert ranks, as he did in the Novice ranks last year. On a more serious note, fellow DC-Cycles list-member Danny Thompson had a rather bad crash going into turn 10, which is a very fast corner. (Danny is a very fast rider, so this was probably something like 80-90 mph...Roach, some expert testimony from another fast racer?) Anywho, last we heard, he was transported to the hospital and was conscious and lucid. Unfortunately, he was conscious and lucid with some broken ribs. If you have ever raced, ridden, or even talked to Danny, you know he's as great a person as he is a racer. We'll be pulling for him to have a speedy recovery. I don't know if he's home or still at the hospital, but if I hear anything more, I'll post to the list. Thanks to Niv, Larry, Steve and Jay for riding out and supporting DC-Cycles Racing. They helped out in the pits and made sure we didn't let any beer go to waste. (Just kidding.) Howard (Koontz?, sorry) was corner working the whole weekend and for that he is greatly appreciated. I'd also like to thank Linda Tanner for loaning me her trailer, and Brian for loaning/giving me a slew of parts to rebuild my bike. I couldn't do this without you guys. I also got A LOT of pictures and video, so if Laura and Mike are listening, let me know if there's any room on the server for some new stuff! I hope those of you who didn't come out at least got out and rode your bikes today; it was beautiful riding weather! - Sean Jordan From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 07:35:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal.east.saic.com (portal.east.saic.com [198.151.13.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EBZhO23992 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclmx.saic.com by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 14 May 2001 11:35:43 UT Received: from mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:35:27 -0400 Received: from mcl-its-exbh01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.11]) by mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001051407304131361 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:30:41 -0400 Received: by mcl-its-exbh01.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:35:26 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'Ricardo Pontes'" , Dccycles Subject: RE: Your choice of sportbike? Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 07:35:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" All are fine machines. From your self-description of riding level you will never come close to using the full potential of any of them. Plus I always love it when people ask for comparisons between bikes such as the 'busa or xx vs. the r1 or gsxr - within the sport bike world they are not in the same class, i.e. very different performance orientations. Spend some time reading & learning before buying dude. My .02 -----Original Message----- From: Ricardo Pontes [mailto:ricardopontes@XXXXXX] Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 7:30 PM To: Dccycles Subject: Your choice of sportbike? I am wondering if anyone has any comment on the following bikes. I have to make a choice of sportbikes, i do not really care much for ducatis or any exotic brands. What would be your choice? 1. Suzuki Gsxr750 2. Suzuki Gsxr1000 3. yamaha r1 4. Kawasaki zx11 5. Honda Cbr1100xx 6. Suzuki Hayabusa Which one of these ranks up best? Ricardo Pontes 1998 Triumph Tiger From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 08:25:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4ECPtO24762 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:25:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA24625 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:25:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gateway.lcsa.org (root@XXXXXX [204.188.41.222]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA15967 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:25:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs724762 ([192.168.0.229]) by gateway.lcsa.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id HAA02833; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:32:46 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" , "Dccycles2" Subject: Sunday Afternoon Race Photos Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:23:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Enjoy! http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/racephotos/010513/010513.htm Gary Foreman From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 08:31:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4ECVXO24917 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:31:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:31:30 -0400 Message-Id: <200105140831.AA653918498@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: BattleTrax this Saturday? X-Mailer: I have an ad in Winding Road for a BattleTrax this Saturday (May 19) in Frederick, MD. Anyone know any details, or if it's still on? The ad says: 9am-5pm, Harry Grove Stadium in Frederick, at the junction of I-70 & Rt 355 on the old Seventh Day Adventist lot. Call Harley-Davidson & Buell of Frederick for more details, 301-694-8177 Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 08:48:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4ECm9O25220 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA24762 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:48:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web11204.mail.yahoo.com (web11204.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.186]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id IAA16376 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 08:48:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514124806.92817.qmail@web11204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web11204.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 05:48:06 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 05:48:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: Sunday Afternoon Race Photos To: Gary Foreman , DC-Cycles Mailing List , Dccycles2 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Awesome pictures!!! Definitely encourages me to get to Summit very soon!!! Matt --- Gary Foreman wrote: > Enjoy! > > http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/photos/racephotos/010513/010513.htm > > > Gary Foreman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 09:10:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fin-out.finnegan.com (firewall-user@XXXXXX [38.241.51.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EDA0O25580 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fin-out.finnegan.com; id JAA26879; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unknown(192.68.20.4) by fin-out.finnegan.com via smap (V5.0) id xma026852; Mon, 14 May 01 09:09:10 -0400 Received: from FHFGD-Message_Server by netmail.finnegan.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:06:45 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.3 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 09:06:33 -0400 From: "Judy La Follette" To: Subject: Ducati 748 Steering Damper Questions/Advice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4EDA5O25584 I stopped by PowerRide (Woodbridge) Saturday to look at the new Ducati 748/996's tightness of their steering damper. Their steering damper was very tight compared to my very movable one. I head to the parts department to see if they might have a rubber bushing or whatever part that would tighten it up (you know a couple bucks). I had already taken it completely off the bike, hoping that the bolts just needed to be tighten down. The ball joint (I forgot what he called it) at the end of the damper where it is bolted down, is worn. Of course, it is manufactured that you have to replace the entire damper. I have a carbon fiber key guard (on the gas tank), and the steering damper is actually rubbing on this every time I move the handlebars. It has already rubbed a small indentation about two inches long. The stock Ducati steering damper is $201.47; the Toby is $239.95, and the Ohlins is $581.95. I was also told that probably the best (after the Ohlins) was a Sprint, but PowerRide does not sell that brand, so they did not have a price. So much for my couple bucks part! The question is what exactly does a steering damper do? I know that it helps stabilize the steering, and helps avoid tank slap (which I have never felt*thank goodness). The Ohlins is supposed to be adjustable, which the guys acted like it was the cream of the crop. They said once you have it, you wondered how you ever got by without it. I realize that everything Ducati is expensive, so if you are dumb enough to buy one, you should not complain about the price :) At least, that is the attitude that I am taking, or I will drive myself crazy getting mad. I also see spots of antifreeze every now and then, and they said they could smell antifreeze. They did not have the new expansion tank ($35.67) in stock, which is what that believed had probably cracked. They said they need to do a pressure test (or something like that) to find out exactly where it is leaking. Is there any place that I should shop around for parts? Is there a chance on getting the Ohlins steering damper and the expansion tank cheaper? I THINK I could handle putting the steering damper on myself, since I had taken the other off to look at it. I am not quite sure how to get to the expansion tank, unless I have to take the gasoline tank off, or possibly come from underneath it. Do I need an Ohlins? I do not race and I have never been on the track. OR, do I just bite the bullet and get the BEST? Thanks in advance for all your help/suggestions. Judy From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 09:13:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13802.mail.yahoo.com (web13802.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.12]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EDDmO25678 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514131327.3363.qmail@web13802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 06:13:27 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 06:13:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Anyone have an extra bed for VIR this Tuesday night? To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If anyone has a room to share for this Tuesday night in Danville for California Superbike School, please drop me an email.... thanks Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 10:11:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: from thehub.knight-hub.com (thehub.knight-hub.com [205.177.16.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EEBEO26548 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:11:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from micron (dialas-221.knight-hub.com [205.252.164.221]) by thehub.knight-hub.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA26476 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:18:02 -0400 Posted-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 09:18:02 -0400 Message-ID: <002e01c0dc74$3e75d2c0$65a4fccd@micron> From: "mobacc" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Loud pipes/MC's/Annapolis Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 08:48:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In Annapolis for fresh air yesterday -- and caught a whiff of bad odor. Anybody up on loud pipes/motorcycles in Annapolis? Is this new? (Obviously doubtful.) Paring the story, returned to my bike parked on Dock Street (near the lot) yesterday noonish to find Parking Enforcement types perusing the three-bike group there. It seems the city authorities are not smiling at MC's these days: The uniforms said an alderman had called to have the bike parking on Dock Street eagle-eyed (special call-Sunday morning-wow): Apparently loud pipes had rattled some conversations in past days and it's spilling over. (I had to move the bike to uncross a faded white line -- otherwise no problem.) One of the PE's even did a onceover of each bike, pointing out that there were probably no noise violators in this group because all pipes appeared to be adequately muffled. (Street vendors said similar problems exist with loud stereos in autos.) I for one enjoy Annapolis immensely and would hate to see privileges cut. Is this something for ABATE? Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 --> Mmmm. Spill more Mint Chocolate Chip on me. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. **ps It seems parking "to the rule" would be in order for a while, they said (which I've paid to find out in the past, also). 30m/2hr limits, no squeezing into spaces with autos, etc. They pointed out the 10hr area across the inlet east of Fawcett's. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 10:26:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from aba.com (mail.aba.com [198.242.42.47]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EEQjO26796 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:26:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ABAOF40-Message_Server by aba.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:04:49 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:04:42 -0400 From: "Robert Beatty" To: Subject: Help !!!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_59029112.FC9DEB09" This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_59029112.FC9DEB09 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Needed ASAP a rear rim for either a GSXR-1000 or any 2000-2001 rear rim for GSXR-750).=20 Does anyone know where I can find this item? =20 --=_59029112.FC9DEB09 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML
Needed ASAP a rear rim for either a GSXR-1000 or
any = 2000-2001=20 rear rim for GSXR-750). 
 
Does anyone know where I can find this item? 
--=_59029112.FC9DEB09-- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 10:32:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from aba.com (mail.aba.com [198.242.42.47]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EEW9O26960 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ABAOF40-Message_Server by aba.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:29:54 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:29:38 -0400 From: "Robert Beatty" To: Subject: Gsxr 1000 model 2001 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_B4EF7CF2.FB9AEC01" This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_B4EF7CF2.FB9AEC01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seeking a GSXR-1000 year 2001. I can't find this bike anywhere do you know = any dealers? --=_B4EF7CF2.FB9AEC01 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML
Seeking a GSXR-1000 year 2001. I can't find this bike = anywhere do=20 you know any dealers?
 
 
--=_B4EF7CF2.FB9AEC01-- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 10:36:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EEZxO27045 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:35:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25256 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h002.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.166]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA19593 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 8717 invoked from network); 14 May 2001 07:35:46 -0700 Date: 14 May 2001 07:35:46 -0700 Message-ID: <20010514143546.8716.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 14 May 2001 14:35:46 GMT Received: from [63.87.59.228] by mail.peoplepc.com with HTTP; 14 May 2001 07:35:46 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: m_rosenstock@XXXXXX From: LAURA GRANATO Cc: fj1100@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, dccycles2@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.9.1.6 Subject: Re: Sunday Afternoon Race Photos X-Sent-From: lgranato@XXXXXX On Mon, 14 May 2001, Matthew Rosenstock wrote: > > Awesome pictures!!! Definitely encourages me to get to > Summit very soon!!! > That's great to hear. I'll also be posting pictures of the DC Cycles crew in their races shortly on DC Cycles.com. LAG ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 10:39:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mcnte1.mc.cc.md.us ([160.253.138.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EEdnO27059 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:39:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MCNTE1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:37:19 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: O/T democracy: WAS DC registration renewals kaput Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:37:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" And does the AMA apportion voting in organizational matters based on the number CCs displaced by one's bike, or number of bikes owned, or miles ridden? How 'bout number of functioning brain cells as determined by an MRI? Most people agree that the District should have some sort of Federal representation, since they ARE, after all part of this great counrty of ours, and we DO stand first and foremost for democracy. The only question is how to fairly arrange such representation and be fair to both the District residents and to the rest of the counrty. Arranging such requires integrity and vision, neither of which are, to my mind, terribly plentiful on the Federal scene these days. Saul -----Original Message----- From: Leon Begeman [mailto:mriderleon@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 2:54 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: DC registration renewals kaput I think this is being approached from the wrong direction. The statement that DC has adopted to tell us about their woes is "Taxation without Representation" The solution is simple. Exempt District residents from Federal Taxes, revoke their right to vote and call it a done deal. Give them what they ask for. Taxation without representation is unfair, stop taxing them. ObMoto - Where did all those bikes come from. Are we supposed migrate like birds? If so, can someone tell me where I'm supposed to be in January. Leon. --- "William J. Huson" wrote: > And the population of a few of those out west > states? Or are we voting > by the square mile now? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 10:40:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gateway.lcsa.org (mail.lcsa.org [204.188.41.222]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EEeQO27072 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cs724762 ([192.168.0.229]) by gateway.lcsa.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA05392; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:45:49 -0400 From: "Gary Foreman" To: "Robert Beatty" , Subject: RE: Gsxr 1000 model 2001 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:36:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009A_01C0DC61.C46D26C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009A_01C0DC61.C46D26C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try Romney Cycle (304) 822-3933. Tell Kevin that Gary sent you. Not sure of his stock. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Beatty [mailto:Rbeatty@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 10:30 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Gsxr 1000 model 2001 Seeking a GSXR-1000 year 2001. I can't find this bike anywhere do you know any dealers? ------=_NextPart_000_009A_01C0DC61.C46D26C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Try Romney Cycle = (304)=20 822-3933.  Tell Kevin that Gary sent you.  Not sure of his=20 stock.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Beatty=20 [mailto:Rbeatty@XXXXXX]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 10:30=20 AM
To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX
Subject: Gsxr 1000 = model=20 2001

Seeking a GSXR-1000 year 2001. I can't find this bike = anywhere=20 do you know any dealers?
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_009A_01C0DC61.C46D26C0-- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 10:51:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from aba.com (mail.aba.com [198.242.42.47]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EEpGO27342 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ABAOF40-Message_Server by aba.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:50:49 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:50:33 -0400 From: "Robert Beatty" To: Subject: FOUND Gsxr 1000 model 2001 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_84DF4CD9.127305E8" This is a MIME message. If you are reading this text, you may want to consider changing to a mail reader or gateway that understands how to properly handle MIME multipart messages. --=_84DF4CD9.127305E8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ** High Priority ** Thanks crew for the quick response. I found a bike and will see her tomorrow....... --=_84DF4CD9.127305E8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: HTML
Thanks crew for the quick response.
 
I found a bike and will see her tomorrow.......
 
 
--=_84DF4CD9.127305E8-- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 10:51:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EEpNO27352 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA25470 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:51:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.133]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA20056 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.his.com (root@XXXXXX [209.67.207.13]) by paparazzo.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA19706 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:51:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from harris (max1h-7.his.com [216.32.85.7]) by mail.his.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA00113 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:51:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.20010514105207.0077f6f8@his.com> X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:52:10 -0700 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Team Charm @ CCS Summit 5/13/01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We sucked this weekend at Summit Point. Read all about it at: http://www.his.com/~harris/news.htm Enjoy! Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 10:53:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal.east.saic.com (portal.east.saic.com [198.151.13.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EErbO27362 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:53:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclmx.saic.com by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 14 May 2001 14:53:37 UT Received: from mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:53:29 -0400 Received: from mcl-its-exbh01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.11]) by mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001051410484306877 ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:48:43 -0400 Received: by mcl-its-exbh01.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:53:28 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'Robert Beatty'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gsxr 1000 model 2001 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:53:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Go to http://www.suzuki.com/ click on the motorcycle, then click on "dealerships" to do a search. Make a few calls, you'll find one pretty easy. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Beatty [mailto:Rbeatty@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 10:30 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Gsxr 1000 model 2001 Seeking a GSXR-1000 year 2001. I can't find this bike anywhere do you know any dealers? From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 11:14:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EFE5O27795 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:14:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVacNJhMrYi7HFYAcRYDnU8to+MWJy2FOeKTDm97CHKksv9Ot2StGBMK Received: from [63.123.104.125] (helo=gennapc) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with asmtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14zK2q-0007e6-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:14:00 -0400 Message-ID: <039101c0dc88$812f5640$7d687b3f@gennapc> Reply-To: "Genna Melamed" From: "Genna Melamed" To: References: Subject: Ducati 916 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:14:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Hi, I have a question for all Ducati owners. I've been offered a late model (98 or 97 not sure) 916 with Ferracci(sp?) kit ant chip and 1800 miles for 10K. Does it sound like a good deal? Are there any issues I should be aware of on that bike? I haven't seen the bike and don't know much about it except that the owner claims it's in mint condition. Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX www.erols.com/genna From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 11:23:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal.east.saic.com (portal.east.saic.com [198.151.13.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EFNPO27964 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclmx.saic.com by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 14 May 2001 15:23:25 UT Received: from mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:23:12 -0400 Received: from MCL-ITS-EXIG01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.12]) by mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001051411182511420 ; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:18:25 -0400 Received: by mcl-its-exig01.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:23:13 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'Gary Foreman'" , Robert Beatty , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gsxr 1000 model 2001 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:23:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Romney will give you a good price but their waiting list is LONG... My buddy's promised delivery date came & went, & went, & went... NEway I see that Robert found one somewhere, good onya. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Foreman [mailto:fj1100@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 10:37 AM To: Robert Beatty; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gsxr 1000 model 2001 Try Romney Cycle (304) 822-3933. Tell Kevin that Gary sent you. Not sure of his stock. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Beatty [mailto:Rbeatty@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 10:30 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Gsxr 1000 model 2001 Seeking a GSXR-1000 year 2001. I can't find this bike anywhere do you know any dealers? From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 11:30:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13804.mail.yahoo.com (web13804.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.14]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EFUTO28158 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514134347.63305.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13804.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 06:43:47 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 06:43:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Ducati 748 Steering Damper Questions/Advice To: Judy La Follette , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Judy: I do not know much about steering dampers, but I do know that tankslappers suck, so get a new one! If you are not racing, I think Ohlins are a bit extravagent. If you are looking for the wow factor, a nice Ohlins will look sweet on your bike. But I bet you can get by with a cheaper one. I do know that the prices at PowerRide suck. You can get that Ohlins for $464 here: http://www.frenotec.com/Ohlins_Forks_and_Steering_Dampers_5190.html See you at Bike Night? Mark --- Judy La Follette wrote: > I stopped by PowerRide (Woodbridge) Saturday to look > at the new Ducati 748/996's tightness of their > steering damper. Their steering damper was very > tight compared to my very movable one. I head to > the parts department to see if they might have a > rubber bushing or whatever part that would tighten > it up (you know a couple bucks). I had already > taken it completely off the bike, hoping that the > bolts just needed to be tighten down. The ball > joint (I forgot what he called it) at the end of the > damper where it is bolted down, is worn. Of course, > it is manufactured that you have to replace the > entire damper. > > I have a carbon fiber key guard (on the gas tank), > and the steering damper is actually rubbing on this > every time I move the handlebars. It has already > rubbed a small indentation about two inches long. > > The stock Ducati steering damper is $201.47; the > Toby is $239.95, and the Ohlins is $581.95. I was > also told that probably the best (after the Ohlins) > was a Sprint, but PowerRide does not sell that > brand, so they did not have a price. So much for my > couple bucks part! > > The question is what exactly does a steering damper > do? I know that it helps stabilize the steering, > and helps avoid tank slap (which I have never > felt*thank goodness). The Ohlins is supposed to be > adjustable, which the guys acted like it was the > cream of the crop. They said once you have it, you > wondered how you ever got by without it. I realize > that everything Ducati is expensive, so if you are > dumb enough to buy one, you should not complain > about the price :) At least, that is the attitude > that I am taking, or I will drive myself crazy > getting mad. > > I also see spots of antifreeze every now and then, > and they said they could smell antifreeze. They did > not have the new expansion tank ($35.67) in stock, > which is what that believed had probably cracked. > They said they need to do a pressure test (or > something like that) to find out exactly where it is > leaking. > > Is there any place that I should shop around for > parts? Is there a chance on getting the Ohlins > steering damper and the expansion tank cheaper? I > THINK I could handle putting the steering damper on > myself, since I had taken the other off to look at > it. I am not quite sure how to get to the expansion > tank, unless I have to take the gasoline tank off, > or possibly come from underneath it. > > Do I need an Ohlins? I do not race and I have never > been on the track. OR, do I just bite the bullet > and get the BEST? > > Thanks in advance for all your help/suggestions. > > Judy > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 11:35:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13806.mail.yahoo.com (web13806.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EFZBO28246 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:35:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514134829.4427.qmail@web13806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13806.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 06:48:29 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 06:48:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Bike Night is this SUNDAY To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Please do not miss BIKE NIGHT, this Sunday at Carpool in Arlington, 5PM-5PM All bikes and bikers welcome....R1s to Harleys! $2.25 Miller Lite and O'Douls. http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ CarPool 4000 Fairfax Drive M-^U Arlington VA 22203 Phone (703) 532 7665 PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO OTHER MAILING LISTS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 11:59:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailhub1a.TRW.COM (mailhub1a.TRW.COM [129.193.4.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EFx3O28621 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:59:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from navieg2.trw.com by mailhub1a.TRW.COM for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:38:01 -0700 Received: from resva-ms6.resva.trw.com ([158.114.112.204]) by navieg2 (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001051407391718835 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:39:18 -0700 Received: from trw.com (dhcp182-96.fp.trw.com [129.193.182.96]) by resva-ms6.resva.trw.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:37:55 -0400 Message-Id: <3AFFEDD8.8093B782@trw.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:38:16 -0400 From: Randy Moran Organization: TRW X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Beatty CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Gsxr 1000 model 2001 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whitt's Suzuki of Manassas, VA 8790 Commerce Court Manassas VA 20110 (703) 393-7181 Ask for Fred Thompson and tell him Randy sent you. Robert Beatty wrote: > Seeking a GSXR-1000 year 2001. I can't find this bike anywhere do you > know any dealers? From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 12:12:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EGC9O28925 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:12:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f4EGC4T08149; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:12:04 -0400 From: Brian Roach To: "Judy La Follette" , Subject: Re: Ducati 748 Steering Damper Questions/Advice Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:12:03 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01051412120307.31132@www.mostlyharmless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 14 May 2001, Judy La Follette wrote: > I stopped by PowerRide (Woodbridge) Saturday to look at the new Ducati > 748/996's tightness of their steering damper. Their steering damper was > very tight compared to my very movable one. I head to the parts department > to see if they might have a rubber bushing or whatever part that would > tighten it up (you know a couple bucks). I had already taken it completely > off the bike, hoping that the bolts just needed to be tighten down. The > ball joint (I forgot what he called it) at the end of the damper where it > is bolted down, is worn. Of course, it is manufactured that you have to > replace the entire damper. I am assuming yours in not adjustable? If that's the case, then yes... to change how stiff it is, you'd need an adjustable one. > I have a carbon fiber key guard (on the gas tank), and the steering damper > is actually rubbing on this every time I move the handlebars. It has > already rubbed a small indentation about two inches long. I'd have to look at how the damper is mounted, but this could just be a mounting issue. > The stock Ducati steering damper is $201.47; the Toby is $239.95, and the > Ohlins is $581.95. I was also told that probably the best (after the > Ohlins) was a Sprint, but PowerRide does not sell that brand, so they did > not have a price. So much for my couple bucks part! And if you go anywhere else, they'll be cheaper :) > The question is what exactly does a steering damper do? I know that it > helps stabilize the steering, and helps avoid tank slap (which I have never > felt*thank goodness). The Ohlins is supposed to be adjustable, which the > guys acted like it was the cream of the crop. They said once you have it, > you wondered how you ever got by without it. I realize that everything > Ducati is expensive, so if you are dumb enough to buy one, you should not > complain about the price :) At least, that is the attitude that I am > taking, or I will drive myself crazy getting mad. It provides damping to the steering :) Seriously though, what it does is try and mitigate adical changes in steering, such as when you loft the front unintentionally (or even unweight the front on throttle exiting a corner). I sincerely doubt you'd notice a difference on the street without the damper. I don't have on on my 900ss and have never really thought I needed one for the street.... of course, I'm a slow guy on public roads :) > I also see spots of antifreeze every now and then, and they said they could > smell antifreeze. They did not have the new expansion tank ($35.67) in > stock, which is what that believed had probably cracked. They said they > need to do a pressure test (or something like that) to find out exactly > where it is leaking. Wash off the bike, dry it, start it. Rev motor. Look for wet stuff. You prob want to take off at least one side of the plastic to do this. > Is there any place that I should shop around for parts? Is there a chance > on getting the Ohlins steering damper and the expansion tank cheaper? I > THINK I could handle putting the steering damper on myself, since I had > taken the other off to look at it. I am not quite sure how to get to the > expansion tank, unless I have to take the gasoline tank off, or possibly > come from underneath it. I'll call our suppliers and get some pricing for you, there's prob a cheaper/better solution than what powerscam gave you. If it is the expansion tank in regard to the coolant leak, that's an OEM part and you'll need to get it from the dealer. > Do I need an Ohlins? I do not race and I have never been on the track. > OR, do I just bite the bullet and get the BEST? I wouldn't... you don't need it. It DOES give high squid factor points though :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 12:12:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pnrvimc.rv.pathnet.net ([63.90.254.100]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EGCUO28942 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:12:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by PNRVIMC with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <2JS24VSK>; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:14:45 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Feger, Ezra" To: "'DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX'" Subject: Rolling Thunder Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:11:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I was wondering if anyone will be attending Rolling Thunder this year and where you will be pre-staging before the Pentagon Parking lot. I was wondering if anyone was meeting up and riding in together to the Pentagon that morning. Thanks, Ezra Feger 703-390-2408 888-478-8006 (pager) efeger@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 12:13:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smgt.net (59-90-112-64-user.darwin.net [64.112.90.59] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EGDgO28962 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 2g0up [64.44.97.125] by smgt.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id A40174300076; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:12:49 -0400 From: "Ahalan" To: Subject: RE: Ducati 748 Steering Damper Questions/Advice Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:12:39 -0700 Message-ID: <001201c0dca9$d88d5a60$3e00000a@darwin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Judy, I too don't know anything of worth about steering dampers, and unfortunately very little about Ducatis. I do know that I would keep away from Poweride's service dept. I've dealt with them once a long time ago (with my Suzuki) and swore I'd never put foot in there again. Others have had they're own bad experiences. Good luck. Niv BMW F650ST From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 12:32:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h006.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.170]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EGWwO29281 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 23330 invoked from network); 14 May 2001 09:32:47 -0700 Date: 14 May 2001 09:32:47 -0700 Message-ID: <20010514163247.23329.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 14 May 2001 16:32:47 GMT Received: from [63.87.59.228] by mail.peoplepc.com with HTTP; 14 May 2001 09:32:47 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: LAURA GRANATO X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.9.1.6 X-Sent-From: lgranato@XXXXXX Subject: the girly girls summit race report Well, figured since everyone else is sending out their race report, I had to do a little one of my own. I guess we should start putting these on the race section of DC Cycles! Well, this was my second official weekend of racing, and the first weekend on my new bike, an Aprilia RS250 (Thank you, Brian, for my new toy!!!!!). Brian signed us up for a practice day on Friday, and after we finished getting the bike safety wired and all of that good stuff, I went out for my first practice session, the final "break in" of my engine. I had to keep the bike under 8,000 rpms for this session, which I gladly didn't mind. I came back in a little weirded out...new bike, first time out on the track in a while, etc. etc. etc. But decided to breathe deep and get ready for my next time out. I only got one more practice session in and man let me tell you....WOW is all I can say. Once I was allowed to take the bike over 8,000 rpms, my whole track experience changed. That bike is a total blast to ride!!!! It only weighs 295 lbs and corners like you wouldn't believe...I hate to see that bike once I *actually* learn how to ride it. I had a blast. Saturday I had one race. It was only my third race ever, and my first at summit. I walked up to get my grid positions and I was in horror. Not only was I in the third row, but guess who was gridded directly next to me? Roach! That's right, they mixed amateurs and experts and didn't do a wave distinction between them. We were all just mixed in together. I could have thrown up! We finally get out there for the race and I'm out on the line...somehow, I missed the green flag...everyone else started taking off and after a 2 second lag, I cranked the bike up to 10,000 and dumped the clutch...OOOPS...wheelied a bike for the first time ever. After I get through that, one of the experts stalled his motor and had his hand up, people start darting left and right to get around him. I didn't know what to do, and slowed down...DUH!!!! ok, so once I got through turn one, it was off to the races. I felt pretty relaxed after the first lap...and held off getting lapped until lap five, I believe...which was an accomplishment for me. The whole race I kept thinking I was last, but turns out that I beat three other people, and only one of them was another shirt like me. That made me damn happy! Didn't get to race sunday because of mother's day. boo hooo! but off to keith code this wednesday and thursday. I, too, want to thank all of the DC Cycles gang that came out and supported us this weekend. It's great to have you all around! I want to thank Roach for all of his help. I couldn't do any of this without him, and I probably would have given up by now, too, because it's not as easy as it looks!!!! His encouragement and "den mothering" has helped me (and jordan, and many others) out. Congrats to the other DC Cycles riders out there! You all did a great job. It's going to be a great year! I'll let you know when I have pictures up! Laura '99 Suzuki GS500 (street) '01 Aprilia RS250 (race) WERA/CCS Novice #869 ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 12:33:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h006.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.170]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EGXnO29291 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:33:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 23388 invoked from network); 14 May 2001 09:33:42 -0700 Date: 14 May 2001 09:33:42 -0700 Message-ID: <20010514163342.23387.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 14 May 2001 16:33:42 GMT Received: from [63.87.59.228] by mail.peoplepc.com with HTTP; 14 May 2001 09:33:42 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: markkitchell@XXXXXX From: LAURA GRANATO Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.9.1.6 Subject: Re: Bike Night is this SUNDAY X-Sent-From: lgranato@XXXXXX On Mon, 14 May 2001, Mark Kitchell wrote: > > Please do not miss BIKE NIGHT, this Sunday at Carpool > in Arlington, 5PM-5PM > I think Mark means 5 pm-9 pm :-) LAG ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 12:43:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13807.mail.yahoo.com (web13807.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.17]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EGh9O29464 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:43:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514164254.77364.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13807.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:42:54 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 09:42:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Re: Bike Night is this SUNDAY To: LAURA GRANATO Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010514163342.23387.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii No, Bike Night is for one minuted.....actually 59 seconds --- LAURA GRANATO wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2001, Mark Kitchell wrote: > > > > > Please do not miss BIKE NIGHT, this Sunday at > Carpool > > in Arlington, 5PM-5PM > > > I think Mark means 5 pm-9 pm :-) > > LAG > > > ________________________________________________ > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 12:54:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (w157.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net [216.112.246.157]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EGs2O29661 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from www.mostlyharmless.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by www.mostlyharmless.net (8.11.0/8.8.7) with SMTP id f4EGrwT08280; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:53:58 -0400 From: Brian Roach To: "Genna Melamed" , Subject: Re: Ducati 916 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:53:58 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <039101c0dc88$812f5640$7d687b3f@gennapc> In-Reply-To: <039101c0dc88$812f5640$7d687b3f@gennapc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0105141253580B.31132@www.mostlyharmless.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Mon, 14 May 2001, Genna Melamed wrote: > I've been offered a late model (98 or 97 not sure) 916 with Ferracci(sp?) > kit ant chip and 1800 miles for 10K. Does it sound like a good deal? Are > there any issues I should be aware of on that bike? I haven't seen the > bike and don't know much about it except that the owner claims it's in mint > condition. The 916, 916S, Or 916SP?. I'm assuming it's a 916, which in '97/98 went for about $17k if memory serves me correctly. (The S went for about $22k, and the SP around $30k I think). 5 years, $7k depreciation? ::shrug:: It's reasonable if the bike really has the low milage (i.e. it wasn't raced then brought back to street) and is in mint condition, but I'd just get a new '01 900SS myself for about the same price - makes a much better streetbike. (I'm biased though... I have a 900SS). If you REALLY want a 916 for the street, then it's probably not a terrible deal. I'd look around and see what they're selling for though. FYI, www.kellybluebook.com lists the value of the '97 BiPosto (two-seat) at $9k for trade-in value, and $13k for dealer re-sale price. MonoPosto adds about $200 to the value. Taking those numbers and splitting the diff puts you in the range of your seller's price. - Roach From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 13:06:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailbox.office.aol.com (x98A3A504.pix.aol.com [152.163.165.4]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EH6qO29926 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:06:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nawt.office.aol.com (nawt.office.aol.com [10.0.31.252]) by mailbox.office.aol.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA12847 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (cerberus@localhost) by nawt.office.aol.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f4EH6ia24735 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:06:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: nawt.office.aol.com: cerberus owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:06:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Paper X-X-Sender: To: "'DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 May 2001, Feger, Ezra wrote: > I was wondering if anyone will be attending Rolling Thunder this year and > where you will be pre-staging before the Pentagon Parking lot. I was > wondering if anyone was meeting up and riding in together to the Pentagon > that morning. Someone had recently asked if I wanted to join in, and I'm all for it. Of course, I have no idea where/when to hook up with the group. Is there a website or something that has RT info on it? -dave -- Dave Paper AOL Network Operations cerberus@XXXXXX MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced --Jay It's no coincidence that people who blindly rely on computers and drugs are both called "users". --Unknown From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 14:18:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web3802.mail.yahoo.com (web3802.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.173]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EIIBO01179 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 14:18:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514181809.21859.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.180.186] by web3802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:18:09 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:18:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: YSR Race on Sunday To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes folks, it's that time of the year. The YSR 50cc races are cranking up in the area, and I told a bunch of folks on the list that I'd let them know when and where. The first race at the Monrovia track near Frederick, MD will be this Sunday the 20th. I'll be racing for the first time on my '89 YSR50. If you'd like to take a nice scenic ride before the Bike Night festivities (www.geocities.com/bikenight), come on up and watch me crash! I'll be number 24 on the blue bike with a green & white pit canopy. I'm going to try to finish my Garry McCoy Red Bull replica decal job in time for the race. You can find more information on this great form of local motorcycle racing at http://www.fastriceracing.com/wwwroot/EARA/eara.htm and you can find directions to the track at http://www.teamcalamari.com/dox/ertkmd.html. Cheers, Chris Weaver VTR, YSR, dccycles.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 14:51:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14007.mail.yahoo.com (web14007.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.123]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EIpiO01765 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 14:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514185141.7154.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.229.31.23] by web14007.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 11:51:41 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: FS: 1992 Yamaha Seca II To: DCCycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 32K miles, good condition, good title and has current Virginia inspection. It's a solid dependable bike. Not very exciting, but it always runs. Blue book is $2000, asking $1800. Call me at 703-470-1167 or email mriderleon@XXXXXX if interested. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 14:51:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EIpjO01767 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 14:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-50-154.s154.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.50.154] helo=palladio) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14zNRX-0001hl-00 ; Mon, 14 May 2001 14:51:43 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01c0dca7$52dc6ac0$bb82fea9@palladio> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "mobacc" , "DC-Cycles" References: <002e01c0dc74$3e75d2c0$65a4fccd@micron> Subject: Re: Loud pipes/MC's/Annapolis Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:31:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hmmm. Parking enforcement drones are now qualified to make visual inspections for "loud pipes" in Annapolis? Paul in DC 95 VFR750F (utterly stock pipe) ----- Original Message ----- From: mobacc > In Annapolis for fresh air yesterday -- and caught a whiff of bad odor. > Anybody up on loud pipes/motorcycles in Annapolis? Is this new? (Obviously > doubtful.) > > Paring the story, returned to my bike parked on Dock Street (near the lot) > yesterday noonish to find Parking Enforcement types perusing the three-bike > group there. > One of the PE's even did a onceover of each bike, pointing out that there > were probably no noise violators in this group because all pipes appeared to > be adequately muffled. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 14:53:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: from es05.hosts.jhmi.edu (es05.hosts.jhmi.edu [162.129.224.75]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EIr5O01784 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 14:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from peabody.jhu.edu (stevendipietro.peabody1.jhmi.edu [10.224.65.91]) by es05.hosts.jhmi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00796; Mon, 14 May 2001 14:33:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B002534.6E53998F@peabody.jhu.edu> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:34:29 -0400 From: "Steven C. Di Pietro" Organization: Peabody Institute of The Johns Hopkins University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Balt-Cycles-l , "D.C.Cycles-L" , "SOCMd@XXXXXX" , "SOC-USA@XXXXXX" Subject: OT Cage Mechanic Needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry Y'all for the Off Topic post, but I'm looking for a cage mechanic in the Maryland area. I picked up from my room mate an 89' Dodge Daytona for $300.00 It needs a tranny swap and front struts. Any recommendations an an inexpensive mechanic? I normally ride the Suzuki Katana all year 'round, but the 2 y.o. rug rat's getting too big to fit in the tank bag so I need to get this cage running. Thanks! Steven C. Di Pietro Assistant National Director National Marketing Coordinator Suzuki Owners Club USA http://www.soc-usa.org From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 14:55:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h015.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.179]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EItfO01827 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 14:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 579 invoked from network); 14 May 2001 11:55:34 -0700 Date: 14 May 2001 11:55:34 -0700 Message-ID: <20010514185534.578.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 14 May 2001 18:55:34 GMT Received: from [63.87.59.228] by mail.peoplepc.com with HTTP; 14 May 2001 11:55:34 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: chris_vtr@XXXXXX From: LAURA GRANATO Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.9.1.6 Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday X-Sent-From: lgranato@XXXXXX On Mon, 14 May 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: The first race at the Monrovia track near > Frederick, MD will be this Sunday the 20th. I'll be > racing for the first time on my '89 YSR50. > How much is it to get in? ;-) LAG ________________________________________________ PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. http://www.peoplepc.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 15:11:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web3704.mail.yahoo.com (web3704.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.133]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EJBJO02101 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514191117.9889.qmail@web3704.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.133.22.73] by web3704.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:11:17 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Knapik Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder To: Dave Paper , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I plan on leaving from Battley's HD dealership in G'burg again this year. I believe you can stage at any HD dealer for the ride. --- Dave Paper wrote: > On Mon, 14 May 2001, Feger, Ezra wrote: > > > I was wondering if anyone will be attending > Rolling Thunder this year and > > where you will be pre-staging before the Pentagon > Parking lot. I was > > wondering if anyone was meeting up and riding in > together to the Pentagon > > that morning. > > Someone had recently asked if I wanted to join in, > and I'm all for it. Of > course, I have no idea where/when to hook up with > the group. Is there a > website or something that has RT info on it? > > -dave > > -- > Dave Paper AOL Network Operations > cerberus@XXXXXX > MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced --Jay > It's no coincidence that people who blindly rely on > computers and drugs > are both called "users". --Unknown > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 15:40:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web513.mail.yahoo.com (web513.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.228]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EJeUO02579 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:40:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514194028.27312.qmail@web513.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.9.247.2] by web513.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:40:28 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:40:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Ducati 916 To: Genna Melamed , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <039101c0dc88$812f5640$7d687b3f@gennapc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Genna Melamed wrote: > Hi, > > I have a question for all Ducati owners. > > I've been offered a late model (98 or 97 not sure) 916 > with Ferracci(sp?) > kit ant chip and 1800 miles for 10K. Does it sound like > a good deal? hmmm.... sounds like an "ok" deal. > Are there any issues I should be aware of on that bike? I > haven't seen the bike and don't know much about it except > that the owner claims it's in mint condition. sounds like it has been doing a lot of sitting in the garage. neglect comes to mind. i would be sure to do a few things if i were considering purchasing this bike: 1. be sure that the chip, as installed, is actually helping the performance, i.e., that it was not only installed but that the bike was also thereafter tuned for it. 2. check for signs of neglect and make a corresponding deduction in your offering price for components that will need to be replaced (such as tires suffering from dryrot). inquire as to whether it received its initial service and what was done. determine whether the 97/98 916 has a different valve inspection interval than the newer superbikes. if so, be prepared for the increased maintenance costs. 3. don't listen to roachie. the 916/996 is an AWESOME streetbike....unless you're commuting on it. stop and go traffic with a heavy clutch and a REALLY TALL FIRST GEAR is horrible. 4. expect more pain than you're used to on your vtr. your wrists will seriously ache after 200, 300 and 400+ mile days. you will love the difference in suspension feedback. feel free to contact me if you have other questions about this bike. any 996 or 748 owner could also be helpful to you. ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 15:45:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f44.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.44]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EJjvO02737 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:45:50 -0700 Received: from 24.23.162.251 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:45:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.23.162.251] From: "Blake S" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Rolling Thunder Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:45:50 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2001 19:45:50.0471 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A8AC970:01C0DCAE] I'll be riding with the Local VFW in Dale city (VFW post 1503). they have the only VFW sanctioned motorcycle club in the country.. real nice.. police escort..free coffe and doughnuts.etc.. last year there were probably near 200 riders.. all are welcome to join... it's located on the left on minnieville right before the intersection with spriggs. Blake 82' Yamaha XZ550 82' Yamaha XZ550 78' Yamaha XS650 78' Yamaha GT80 > > > I was wondering if anyone will be attending > > Rolling Thunder this year and > > > where you will be pre-staging before the Pentagon > > Parking lot. I was > > > wondering if anyone was meeting up and riding in > > together to the Pentagon > > > that morning. > > > > Someone had recently asked if I wanted to join in, > > and I'm all for it. Of > > course, I have no idea where/when to hook up with > > the group. Is there a > > website or something that has RT info on it? > > > > -dave > > > > -- > > Dave Paper AOL Network Operations > > cerberus@XXXXXX > > MCSE = Must Consult Someone Experienced --Jay > > It's no coincidence that people who blindly rely on > > computers and drugs > > are both called "users". --Unknown > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 15:58:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from typhoon.pop3now.com ([209.208.170.227]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EJwVO02915 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:55:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200105141955.PAA02705@typhoon.pop3now.com> From: To: lgranato@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday > On Mon, 14 May 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > > The first race at the Monrovia track near > > Frederick, MD will be this Sunday the 20th. I'll be > > racing for the first time on my '89 YSR50. > > > How much is it to get in? ;-) > > LAG a TRUE fan wouldn't ask Dave Yates > > > ________________________________________________ > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com > -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 16:28:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from typhoon.pop3now.com ([209.208.170.227]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EKSdO03446 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 16:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:25:32 -0400 Message-Id: <200105142025.QAA08840@typhoon.pop3now.com> From: To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Cc: Subject: Re: bike rentals in D.C. or VA? anyone have any helpful info I can relay to my fellow Ninja-phile ??? TIA, Dave Yates > would anyone have a line on any rental places in DC or VA? we're looking > at crusing to richmond and VA Beach for a couple of days after flying into > D.C. > thx. john 96 11 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 16:29:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EKTVO03456 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 16:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id o.55.1570d069 (15900); Mon, 14 May 2001 16:29:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web44.aolmail.aol.com (web44.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.5]) by air-id09.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.37) with ESMTP; Mon, 14 May 2001 16:29:18 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:29:18 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday To: , Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <55.1570d069.28319a1e@aol.com> Oh GOD!!! Not THAT thread again!! ;-) Scooter In a message dated Mon, 14 May 2001 4:00:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, writes: << > On Mon, 14 May 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > > The first race at the Monrovia track near > > Frederick, MD will be this Sunday the 20th. I'll be > > racing for the first time on my '89 YSR50. > > > How much is it to get in? ;-) > > LAG a TRUE fan wouldn't ask Dave Yates > > > ________________________________________________ > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com > -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal >> From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 16:32:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com [207.46.181.83]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EKWKO03545 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 16:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavilion ([63.10.42.46]) by cpimssmtpu08.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Mon, 14 May 2001 13:31:59 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:36:48 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <00c101c0dc1b$3dc19b60$9cf670d8@dccracing.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2001 20:31:59.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[ED1DA1A0:01C0DCB4] LAG, You are right i dont understand it. The only races that i dont find that boring are the Paris Dakar style races. I sure dont want to crash, you are right. But watching riders crash is fun. Racing is a dangerous activity, the chances of crashing are pretty good, that is why i sometimes watch. I guess people like to watch racing for different reasons, perhaps if i raced i would respect racers more. But frankly i find it boring. Im glad you think i have the right to my opinion, most people do not think so. Ricardo Pontes 1998 Triumph Tiger The crashing part is the only cool thing about racing. Whenever i > watch races on tv i always keep my fingers crossed for someone to crash, the > nastier the better. Racing is so boring, crashing is so neat. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but obviously, you don't *understand* racing if you think it's boring. wishing to see anyone crash is a horrible thing and one I hope that *you* never experience yourself, or you might feel differently. LAG From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 16:42:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13808.mail.yahoo.com (web13808.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.18]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4EKgcO03725 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 16:42:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514204236.91011.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13808.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:42:36 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:42:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: RE: Racing/ Crashing To: Ricardo Pontes , Dccycles In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Richard: I think you need to understand why you offended (?) Laura. She is a newbie racer and her boyfriend is a serious racer. So when you say that you enjoy seeing people crash, that hits very close to home. Basically, you are saying....if I was watching you or your boyfriend race, I would be interested in seeing you crash. Thats like me saying....I find Triumph Tigers boring and really only like to see them crash. Not very nice? Mark --- Ricardo Pontes wrote: > LAG, > > You are right i dont understand it. The only races > that i dont find that > boring are the Paris Dakar style races. I sure dont > want to crash, you are > right. But watching riders crash is fun. Racing is a > dangerous activity, the > chances of crashing are pretty good, that is why i > sometimes watch. I guess > people like to watch racing for different reasons, > perhaps if i raced i > would respect racers more. But frankly i find it > boring. Im glad you think i > have the right to my opinion, most people do not > think so. > > Ricardo Pontes > 1998 Triumph Tiger > > > > The crashing part is the only cool thing about > racing. Whenever i > > watch races on tv i always keep my fingers crossed > for someone to crash, > the > > nastier the better. Racing is so boring, crashing > is so neat. > > Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but > obviously, you don't > *understand* racing if you think it's boring. > wishing to see anyone crash > is a horrible thing and one I hope that *you* never > experience yourself, or > you might feel differently. > > LAG > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 16:43:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net (mr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.87]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EKhpO03737 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 16:43:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [153.39.175.217] by mr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: ippool175-217.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.175.217]) id QQkpag18090; Mon, 14 May 2001 20:43:49 GMT From: dsnyder@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dsnyder@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:42:06 -0400 To: "Ricardo Pontes" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Cc: "Dccycles" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" You need to get Speedvision and watch World Superbike/Supersport races on Sunday nights. Last night it was Bayliss on his Ducati passing Edwards on his Honda in the last mile while they both exchanged elbows. Not the best coverage, but very entertaining. $0.02, Dan At 16:36 -0400 5/14/01, Ricardo Pontes wrote: >LAG, > >You are right i dont understand it. The only races that i dont find that >boring are the Paris Dakar style races. I sure dont want to crash, you are >right. But watching riders crash is fun. Racing is a dangerous activity, the >chances of crashing are pretty good, that is why i sometimes watch. I guess >people like to watch racing for different reasons, perhaps if i raced i >would respect racers more. But frankly i find it boring. Im glad you think i >have the right to my opinion, most people do not think so. > >Ricardo Pontes >1998 Triumph Tiger > > > >The crashing part is the only cool thing about racing. Whenever i >> watch races on tv i always keep my fingers crossed for someone to crash, >the >> nastier the better. Racing is so boring, crashing is so neat. > >Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but obviously, you don't >*understand* racing if you think it's boring. wishing to see anyone crash >is a horrible thing and one I hope that *you* never experience yourself, or >you might feel differently. > >LAG From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 17:04:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EL4UO04100 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-32.patriot.net [209.249.181.32]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4EL4PM07892; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:04:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3B0046FC.71C6EB5E@patriot.net> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:58:36 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sdave@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: bike rentals in D.C. or VA? References: <200105142025.QAA08840@typhoon.pop3now.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sure. Patriot H-D in Fairfax has a bike rental concession on premises. Got a nice Road Glide in the fleet, purrfect for a two-up cruise to VA beach. Bill sdave@XXXXXX wrote: > anyone have any helpful info I can relay to my fellow Ninja-phile ??? > > TIA, > Dave Yates > > > would anyone have a line on any rental places in DC or VA? we're > looking > > at crusing to richmond and VA Beach for a couple of days after > flying into > > D.C. > > thx. john 96 11 > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! 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Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 17:04:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com [207.46.181.86]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EL4kO04110 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:04:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavilion ([63.10.42.46]) by cpimssmtpu11.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Mon, 14 May 2001 14:04:38 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: Racing/ Crashing Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:09:27 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010514204236.91011.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2001 21:04:39.0383 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D317E70:01C0DCB9] Hmm, i certainly didnt mean to offend anyone. And i dont like seeing people hurt. Most people tend to remember the bad things and always forget the good things. You see tons of shows on tv with this sort of thing. You know some footage of a guy raming is motorcycle against a bus, that sticks in your head and you say out loud "OUCH". I never had the most popular opinions :).. Ill try to watch what i say from now on. BTW, you find Tigers boring???? Damm you :) Ricardo Pontes 1998 Triumph Tiger Richard: I think you need to understand why you offended (?) Laura. She is a newbie racer and her boyfriend is a serious racer. So when you say that you enjoy seeing people crash, that hits very close to home. Basically, you are saying....if I was watching you or your boyfriend race, I would be interested in seeing you crash. Thats like me saying....I find Triumph Tigers boring and really only like to see them crash. Not very nice? http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 17:13:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10506.mail.yahoo.com (web10506.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.156]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ELDTO04307 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514211327.93982.qmail@web10506.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [165.247.115.54] by web10506.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 14:13:27 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:13:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Todd Withrow Subject: Re: Bike Night is this SUNDAY To: LAURA GRANATO , markkitchell@XXXXXX Cc: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010514163342.23387.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > Please do not miss BIKE NIGHT, this Sunday at > Carpool > > in Arlington, 5PM-5PM > > > I think Mark means 5 pm-9 pm :-) > > LAG I think is when the drink specials are in effect. Todd W. ===== AIM: Inf DS http://www.geocities.com/mtwithrow ----------------------------------------------------------- Used to be that we "worldproofed" our children. Now society wants to childproof the world. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 17:41:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4ELfKO04780 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p57.a1.du.radix.net [207.192.129.57]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA20680 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:41:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" Cc: "'Dccycles'" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:43:22 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c0dcbe$fc0a3c00$3981c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal You need to get Speedvision and watch World Superbike/Supersport races on Sunday nights. Last night it was Bayliss on his Ducati passing Edwards on his Honda in the last mile while they both exchanged elbows. Not the best coverage, but very entertaining. That was pretty good. I hate to see a furner win, but, that was a good race. Who won the next race ? Not to wish ill will, but I'm kinda glad Foggy isn't racing anymore... Jeez, those British announcers thought he could do no wrong, even when he binned... Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 17:42:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4ELgMO04854 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:42:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p57.a1.du.radix.net [207.192.129.57]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA21094; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:42:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Ricardo Pontes'" , "'Dccycles'" Subject: RE: Racing/ Crashing Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:44:50 -0400 Message-ID: <000601c0dcbf$20cddb00$3981c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Hmm, i certainly didnt mean to offend anyone. And i dont like seeing people hurt. Most people tend to remember the bad things and always forget the good things. You see tons of shows on tv with this sort of thing. You know some footage of a guy raming is motorcycle against a bus, that sticks in your head and you say out loud "OUCH". I never had the most popular opinions :).. Ill try to watch what i say from now on. BTW, you find Tigers boring???? Damm you :) Next thing you know, you'll tell us you use dino oil, your bike's rear brake and chain oil ! ;-) Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 18:11:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smgt.net (59-90-112-64-user.darwin.net [64.112.90.59] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EMBkO05292 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:11:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 2g0up [64.44.97.125] by smgt.net (SMTPD32-6.06) id A7E47D7A00AC; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:10:44 -0400 From: "Ahalan" To: "'Chris Weaver'" , Subject: RE: YSR Race on Sunday Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:10:32 -0700 Message-ID: <000201c0dcdb$d77fcf40$3e00000a@darwin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010514181809.21859.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Too bad you had to start your YSR season on this 20th - I'm out of town. See you another time. Niv BMW F650ST -----Original Message----- From: Chris Weaver [mailto:chris_vtr@XXXXXX] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:18 AM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: YSR Race on Sunday Yes folks, it's that time of the year. The YSR 50cc races are cranking up in the area, and I told a bunch of folks on the list that I'd let them know when and where. The first race at the Monrovia track near Frederick, MD will be this Sunday the 20th. I'll be racing for the first time on my '89 YSR50. If you'd like to take a nice scenic ride before the Bike Night festivities (www.geocities.com/bikenight), come on up and watch me crash! I'll be number 24 on the blue bike with a green & white pit canopy. I'm going to try to finish my Garry McCoy Red Bull replica decal job in time for the race. You can find more information on this great form of local motorcycle racing at http://www.fastriceracing.com/wwwroot/EARA/eara.htm and you can find directions to the track at http://www.teamcalamari.com/dox/ertkmd.html. Cheers, Chris Weaver VTR, YSR, dccycles.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 18:18:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp5ve.mailsrvcs.net (smtp5vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.26]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4EMIuO05450 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:18:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.tennisbooks.com (adsl-151-200-19-35.dc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp5ve.mailsrvcs.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA5412692 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:23:42 GMT Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010514181156.00ab6960@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:18:58 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 In-Reply-To: <000501c0dcbe$fc0a3c00$3981c0cf@nih.gov> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:43 PM 5/14/01, you wrote: >Last night it was Bayliss on his Ducati passing Edwards on his Honda >in the last mile while they both exchanged elbows. That first race was just great racing -- Edwards passing out of the Lesmos on almost every lap, and Bayliss passing him back into the Parabolica. Just great. And the interviews afterward -- despite the elbows, it was great racing, and they both knew it and loved it. Great racing, great guys. > That was pretty good. I hate to see a furner win, but, > that was a >good race. Who won the next race ? Race 2 had the same 1-2-3 finish, but Bayliss pulled out about two seconds in the last four laps. Several passes back and forth, just not quite as competitive for 1st and 2nd as the first race. > Not to wish ill will, but I'm kinda glad Foggy isn't > racing anymore... >Jeez, those British announcers thought he could do no wrong, even when >he binned... Agreed. Great racer in the dry, but don't miss his personality a bit. This year may be the best World Superbike racing I've seen. These guys are flying. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 19:21:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web3802.mail.yahoo.com (web3802.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.173]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ENLZO06569 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010514232130.26166.qmail@web3802.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.180.74] by web3802.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 16:21:30 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:21:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010514185534.578.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's FREEEE, baby! Free! Just like club racing oughta be! ;^) Chris --- LAURA GRANATO wrote: > How much is it to get in? ;-) > > LAG __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 20:01:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rmx420-mta.mail.com (rmx420-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.152]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4F01OO07239 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 20:01:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web641-wra.mail.com (web641-wra.mail.com [165.251.33.76]) by rmx420-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10155 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 20:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <386066288.989884883545.JavaMail.root@web641-wra.mail.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:01:22 -0400 (EDT) From: "T.B.G" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Battle Trax at Fredrick this Sat. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 129.2.102.135 Chris, Yeah I'll be heading up to BattleTrax in Fredrick this weekend. I'll be taking the Buell up. So long as it's sunny it's on. Last one was canceled when it rained. Let me know if ya want to meet up along the way. I'm coming from Univ. Maryland at College Park. Thad From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: BattleTrax this Saturday? I have an ad in Winding Road for a BattleTrax this Saturday (May 19) in Frederick, MD. Anyone know any details, or if it's still on? The ad says: 9am-5pm, Harry Grove Stadium in Frederick, at the junction of I-70 & Rt 355 on the old Seventh Day Adventist lot. Call Harley-Davidson & Buell of Frederick for more details, 301-694-8177 Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 20:32:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp6ve.mailsrvcs.net (smtp6vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.27]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4F0W3O07781 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 20:32:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from titan (adsl-151-200-16-190.dc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.200.16.190]) by smtp6ve.mailsrvcs.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA20508091; Tue, 15 May 2001 00:36:48 GMT Message-ID: <001601c0dcd7$546ec9c0$0300a8c0@bellatlantic.net> From: "Jeannette_Zell" To: , "LAURA GRANATO" References: <20010514163247.23329.cpmta@c002.snv.cp.net> Subject: Re: the girly girls summit race report Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 20:38:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 GO Girl! :-) - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 ----- Original Message ----- From: "LAURA GRANATO" To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: the girly girls summit race report > I felt pretty relaxed after the first lap...and held off getting lapped until lap five, I believe...which was an accomplishment for me. The whole race I kept thinking I was last, but turns out that I beat three other people, and only one of them was another shirt like me. That made me damn happy! > > Laura > '99 Suzuki GS500 (street) > '01 Aprilia RS250 (race) > WERA/CCS Novice #869 > > > ________________________________________________ > PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. > http://www.peoplepc.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 21:11:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h017.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.181]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4F1B4O08348 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 21:11:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 24295 invoked from network); 14 May 2001 18:10:56 -0700 Received: from w156.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net (HELO laura) (216.112.246.156) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.181) with SMTP; 14 May 2001 18:10:56 -0700 X-Sent: 15 May 2001 01:10:56 GMT Message-ID: <005801c0dcdb$f812bce0$9cf670d8@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: "Ricardo Pontes" , "Dccycles" References: Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:10:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > You are right i dont understand it. I sure dont want to crash, you are > right. But watching riders crash is fun. I guess > people like to watch racing for different reasons, perhaps if i raced i > would respect racers more. But frankly i find it boring. Ricardo: Kitchell is right...crashing hits close to home. You have no idea what it feels like out there thinking one mistake and you're off the track, or to know someone you care about is off the track. I used to think crashing was the best part because I didn't *understand* racing at all. That's the only part I understood. This past weekend in my first practice, I saw a really nasty crash right in front of me on the track, and it's enough to make you throw up in your helmet because all you can think to yourself is "thank god that's not me, and I hope he/she is alright." If you'd like, I will pay your entry fee to summit one weekend and give you a real race experience. I'll teach you how it all works and maybe you'll enjoy it better. If it's not your thing, than I completely understand. My point being is if you just don't understand it and want someone to show you the ropes, I'd be more than happy to help. :-) Laura From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 21:18:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4F1IWO08514 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 21:18:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-59-101.s355.tnt3.lnhva.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.59.101] helo=c9rnf01) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14zTTp-00011e-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 14 May 2001 21:18:30 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c0dcdc$c8e8f500$653b2c42@c9rnf01> From: "Todd Peer" To: "AA DC Cycles" Subject: YSR Races Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:17:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:55:19 -0400 Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday > On Mon, 14 May 2001, Chris Weaver wrote: > > The first race at the Monrovia track near > > Frederick, MD will be this Sunday the 20th. I'll be > > racing for the first time on my '89 YSR50. > > > How much is it to get in? ;-) > > LAG a TRUE fan wouldn't ask Dave Yates -------------------------- Yeah, if you really cared about the sport... ;-) But seriously, it better still be free!!! Oh, and plenty of low-speed crashing for Tiger Riders to get their jollys going. Todd (Springfield) From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 22:12:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10501.mail.yahoo.com (web10501.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.151]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4F2CVO09383 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010515021225.86828.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.147.78.216] by web10501.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:12:25 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:12:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Suzookus Maximus Subject: re: Your choice of sportbike? To: ricardopontes@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii <> No exotics! The MV Augusta F4 SENNA is awesome looking! N a steal at the low, low $25k price (I mean $24,995 + $5 for a tank of gas!!!). :) Seriously... <<1. Suzuki Gsxr750>> Got a 2000 model N love it. :0 If you are into long range cruising I wouldn't advise it however. It's very comfy as sport bike goes (puts a CBRF4's seat to shame IMO), but a sport tourer it is not. :) <<2. Suzuki Gsxr1000>> Nearly identical to the 750. More power, frame a lil bit stronger; a couple more tricked out parts (titanium exhaust). IMO you don't need the extra HP on the street that the liter bike has over the 750. The extra torque would be nice however. Then again, is just a few bucks more than the 750. <<3. yamaha r1>> Great bike -- super extreme riding position IMO. A lot like the Ducati style way low clip ons! All the biker rags have designated this guy to second, below the GSX-R1000 however. Not really cutting edge anymore ya know. ;| <<4. Kawasaki zx11 5. Honda Cbr1100xx 6. Suzuki Hayabusa>> No clue. :) Pretty wide berth of choices... What about a Suzuki 1000TLR? A bit heavier than the GSXR's, but its got a lot of power and monster torque. (also has that cool twin rumble!!!) -jeff ===== ->bike: '00 GSX-R750 ->email: suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX ->web: http://profiles.yahoo.com/suzookusmaximus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 22:34:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web10508.mail.yahoo.com (web10508.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.130.158]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4F2YtO09720 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010515023453.90056.qmail@web10508.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.147.78.216] by web10508.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:34:53 PDT Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:34:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Suzookus Maximus Subject: RE: Racing/ Crashing To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii <> That was awesome! Much better than crashing. Reminded me of the GP race earlier in this year where Biagi elbowed Rossi onto the grass, Rossi recovered, passed him and gave him the one fingered Italian salute while navigating the next turn. :0 -jeff ===== ->bike: '00 GSX-R750 ->email: suzookusmaximus@XXXXXX ->web: http://profiles.yahoo.com/suzookusmaximus __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 22:35:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4F2ZkO09799 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:35:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO ([38.38.169.13]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f4F2Zgd67474; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <002101c0dce7$a6e5ad80$0da92626@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Subject: Calling all true race fans... Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:35:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Hey all, The AMA needs your help. Word I'm hearing is that they are way short on workers for the AMA national this weekend at Road Atlanta. If you are available to assist with timing & scoring, Start/Finish duties and general race logistics (sorry, no word on corner worker availability), please e-mail Becki at heroinjade@XXXXXX A.S.A.P. and let her know your schedule and when you'll be able to assist. I won't lie to you, unfortunately you'll miss some of the on-track battles whilst you attend to your duties off-track, but for your trouble you get a per diem paid by AMA, hot pit access, press room access (sometimes), great preferred parking and anytime you are away from the track, you can at least monitor the raw, commercial-free satellite uplink feed of the race so you won't actually "miss" anything. This is a great way to show your appreciation to the racers for providing us great racing entertainment. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Daidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard (soon!) 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 22:57:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp5ve.mailsrvcs.net (smtp5vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.26]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4F2vpO10185 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:57:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.xhost.org (adsl-151-200-19-35.dc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp5ve.mailsrvcs.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA5895533 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 03:02:37 GMT Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010514225724.00abdb20@mail.9netave.com> Precedence: bulk X-Sender: pltrgyst@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:57:52 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson (by way of Larry Larson ) (by way of Larry Larson ) Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 05:43 PM 5/14/01, you wrote: >Last night it was Bayliss on his Ducati passing Edwards on his Honda >in the last mile while they both exchanged elbows. That first race was just great racing -- Edwards passing out of the Lesmos on almost every lap, and Bayliss passing him back into the Parabolica. Just great. And the interviews afterward -- despite the elbows, it was great racing, and they both knew it and loved it. Great racing, great guys. > That was pretty good. I hate to see a furner win, but, > that was a >good race. Who won the next race ? Race 2 had the same 1-2-3 finish, but Bayliss pulled out about two seconds in the last four laps. Several passes back and forth, just not quite as competitive for 1st and 2nd as the first race. > Not to wish ill will, but I'm kinda glad Foggy isn't > racing anymore... >Jeez, those British announcers thought he could do no wrong, even when >he binned... Agreed. Great racer in the dry, but don't miss his personality a bit. This year may be the best World Superbike racing I've seen. These guys are flying. -- Larry From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 22:59:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r19.mx.aol.com (imo-r19.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.73]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4F2xHO10197 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:59:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Lodicojoe@XXXXXX by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.26.1552be3e (4539) for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 22:59:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Lodicojoe@XXXXXX Message-ID: <26.1552be3e.2831f576@aol.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 22:59:02 EDT Subject: For sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Anyone interested in a 1975 Yamaha 350 street bike? I've got to clean out the garage and I don't have enough time to run it with work, family, house, etc.. You know the story. Anyway, I thought I would give Dc cycles the first look at it. The 350 is a two stroke, twin in its original orange paint with black stripes, it starts on the 3 rd or fourth kick runs good, battery is two years old and the rear Dunlop have less than 100 miles on it( replaced last year) Its Maryland inspected has good brakes (rebuilt front caliper 3 years ago) If you're interested, email me back. I'm asking $500. Thanks, Joe From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 23:06:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4F36LO10371 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 23:06:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-109-31.s31.tnt1.war.va.dialup.rcn.com ([207.172.109.31] helo=thompsonlaptop) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14zVA8-0000oM-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 14 May 2001 23:06:16 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c0dcec$2e7b50c0$1f6daccf@thompsonlaptop> From: "Danny Thompson" To: Subject: quick update Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:25:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Hello everyone, thanks for the many e-mails of concern. I am still in the hospital on pain meds thank goodness. I have 6 broken ribs on my back left side, a fractured bone in my right hand, possible fracture of my left collarbone, and bruised insides and out. I should get out of here Tuesday or Wednesday but will likely be out of commission for considerably longer. Ribs take time to mend and hurt a whole lot. I'll give a more thorough report later. Danny (down, but not out) From dc-cycles-request Mon May 14 23:11:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp016.mail.yahoo.com (smtp016.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.113]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4F3BcO10417 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 23:11:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24-168-210-88.sp.cox.rr.com (HELO ltanner) (24.168.210.88) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2001 03:11:35 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "LindaT." To: "Danny Thompson" Cc: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: RE: quick update Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:11:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <000201c0dcec$2e7b50c0$1f6daccf@thompsonlaptop> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Glad you're ok. Mend quickly and we won't tell you any jokes for awhile. ;-) LindaT. Custom TankBags Springfield, VA (suburb of our nation's capital) 99 R1100RT Mr. Buzzy 95 F3 Purple Haze (68K miles and counting...) 00 KLR250 Super Sherpa Tenzing http://www.geocities.com/ljtanner Danny Thompson said: Hello everyone, thanks for the many e-mails of concern. I am still in the hospital on pain meds thank goodness. I have 6 broken ribs on my back left side, a fractured bone in my right hand, possible fracture of my left collarbone, and bruised insides and out. I should get out of here Tuesday or Wednesday but will likely be out of commission for considerably longer. Ribs take time to mend and hurt a whole lot. I'll give a more thorough report later. Danny (down, but not out) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 07:46:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from portal.east.saic.com (portal.east.saic.com [198.151.13.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FBk8O19360 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:46:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mclmx.saic.com by portal.east.saic.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 15 May 2001 11:46:08 UT Received: from mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com by mclmx.mail.saic.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:45:40 -0400 Received: from mcl-its-exbh01.mail.saic.com ([149.8.64.11]) by mcl-its-ieg01.mail.saic.com (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001051507405505470 ; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:40:55 -0400 Received: by mcl-its-exbh01.saic.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:45:40 -0400 Message-Id: From: "Pflieger, Matthew M." To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Rider Needed Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:45:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" AS most of you know I'm taking Keith Codes Superbike School tomorrow & Thursday at VIR. Laura Granato, Brian Roach, & Mark Kitchell will be there also. Well to make a long story short my buddy that I'm travelling with crashed at Summit yesterday and is looking like he can't go. Since they don't give refunds @ less than a week before class, he's looking for someone that can take his spot. He's willing to discuss terms of payment & everything, but definitely does not have to have payment up front, he can work it out. The class itself is $395/day, but he may be up for taking offers due to the short notice. Other info: Bike mods are minor (~15 min.): replace antifreeze w/ distilled water & water wetter, both of which I have and can provide; remove mirrors, tape lights. That's it. I've got a trailer and am prepared to transport both bikes. Again, the class is Wed/Thu, you can be back in work by Friday. Hotel near track is reserved. All you gotta do is meet me tonight to load your bike and go (no psychos or freaks please...). For those of you not familiar w/ Keith Code (guy that wrote Twist of Wrist books) here's the link. Its the California Superbike School. http://www.superbikeschool.com/ Any ?'s hit me back on email or at 703-676-5013 or on my cell 703-608-6451. OK so who's ready to RIDE??? From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 08:19:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FCJRO19879 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 08:19:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:19:25 -0400 Message-Id: <200105150819.AA590278@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: RE: BattleTrax this Sat. X-Mailer: Thanks, not sure when I'll get there. BTW, this one's rain date is Sunday. Chris Norloff ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "T.B.G" Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:58:29 -0400 (EDT) >Chris, > >Yeah I'll be heading up to BattleTrax in Fredrick this weekend. I'll be >taking the Buell up. So long as it's sunny it's on. Last one was canceled >when it rained. > >Let me know if ya want to meet up along the way. I'm coming from Univ. >Maryland at College Park. > >Thad > > >From: "Chris Norloff" >Reply-To: >X-Sender: >To: "List-dc cycles" >Subject: BattleTrax this Saturday? > >I have an ad in Winding Road for a BattleTrax this Saturday (May 19) in >Frederick, MD. Anyone know >any details, or if it's still on? > >The ad says: >9am-5pm, Harry Grove Stadium in Frederick, at the junction of I-70 & Rt 355 >on the old Seventh Day >Adventist lot. > >Call Harley-Davidson & Buell of Frederick for more details, 301-694-8177 > >Chris Norloff > > > > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 08:45:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (web3806.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.177]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FCjSO20369 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 08:45:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010515124526.5081.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.180.148] by web3806.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 05:45:26 PDT Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 05:45:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday To: Natasha Louis , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Damn. The year before last when I came up to watch a few races, it was free (or at least no one was interested in asking us to pay). Sorry folks. I figured it was still the same. Chris Weaver VTR, YSR, dccycles.com p.s. The less said about that nickname, the better. --- Natasha Louis wrote: > Actually Chris (I won't mention your "cute" little > EARA nickname on this > list), the entrance fee is not FREEEE, it is $8.00, > or it used to be last > year at least. Might have gone up this year, but I > doubt it. But hey guys, > its still much much cheaper than Summit Point, and a > lot more entertaining. > So come on out and have a blast with us. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 09:59:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9701.mail.yahoo.com (web9701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.137]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FDxPO21523 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010515135923.99132.qmail@web9701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [32.97.182.46] by web9701.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 06:59:23 PDT Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 06:59:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Scratch Subject: OT Big Black Pickup FS To: DCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My friend Tim is trying to sell his truck. Contact him at tgeiger356@XXXXXX if interested. Thanks, Rich ============= Original Message ============= It's a 2000 XLT with 14k miles, 4X4, 5.4 V-8, bed liner, heavy duty transmission and suspension to support towing package. Extended cab, 17" tires, black. Great condition, $25k takes it home. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 10:19:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FEJqO21866 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:19:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:19:43 -0400 Message-Id: <200105151019.AA77398444@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Chris Norloff" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: How To Get Out of a Speeding Ticket X-Mailer: > A police officer pulls a guy over for speeding and has the following > exchange: > > Officer: May I see your driver's license? > Driver: I don't have one. I had it suspended when I got my 5th DUI. > Officer: May I see the owner's card for this vehicle? > Driver: It's not my car. I stole it. > Officer: The car is stolen? > Driver: That's right. But come to think of it, I think I saw the owner's > card in the glove box when I was putting my gun in there. > Officer: There's a gun in the glove box? > Driver: Yes sir. That's where I put it after I shot and killed the woman > who owns this car and stuffed her in the trunk. > Officer: There's a BODY in the TRUNK?!?!? > Driver: Yes, sir. > > Hearing this, the officer immediately called his captain. The car was > quickly surrounded by police, and the captain approached the driver > to handle the tense situation: > > Captain: Sir, can I see your license? > Driver: Sure. Here it is. It was valid. > Captain: Who's car is this? > Driver: It's mine, officer. Here's the owner's card. The driver owned the > car. > Captain: Could you slowly open your glove box so I can see if there's > a gun in it? > Driver: Yes, sir, but there's no gun in it. > Sure enough, there was nothing in the glove box. > Captain: Would you mind opening your trunk? I was told you said > there's a body in it. > Driver: No problem. > Trunk is opened; no body. > Captain: I don't understand it. The officer who stopped you said you told > > him you didn't have a license, stole the car, had a gun in the glove box, > > and that there was a dead body in the trunk. > Driver: Yeah, I'll bet the lying s.o.b. told you I was speeding, too. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 10:28:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f234.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.234]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FESvO22033 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:28:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:28:50 -0700 Received: from 162.129.144.91 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:28:49 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.129.144.91] From: "Devin Ginther" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: New rider Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:28:49 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 14:28:50.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[5BF6CAC0:01C0DD4B] Greetings to all, I wanted to introduce myself. I recently moved up here from Dallas, Texas and live in Baltimore, MD. I work at Johns Hopkins Hospital as a Biomedical Engineer (I get crap from the nurses all the time...organ donor, blah, blah). I've been here for almost a year but still consider myself new to the area. I'm 25 yrs old and have been riding for about 8 yrs. I'm from a huge motorcycle family. My brother has a few, and my father has about as many as he can put on his trailer. In fact, my father teaches several motorcycle safety courses as a hobby and is heavily involved in the administration. I currently own a showroom condition 95 GSXR1100. My second one. In the past I've ridden (in order) a 83 Magne V65, 93 Katana 600, 94 GSXR1100, 98 ZX-6R, 97 YZF-600, CR500 (dirtbike), 91 CBR1000F, and my current bike. I've been lucky enough to only go down once, and I'm hoping to keep the rubber side down for a long, long time. I was hoping you guys could help me out and give me more info about the club and local events. Official members? Dues? Any riders in the Baltimore area I could ride down with? What's the regular schedule? Meaning when and where do you normally meet. I very eager to hear from you...any intertesting info would be appreciated. I'm looking forward to meeting you all and getting back with a motorcycle family. Thanks. Devin Ginther 95 GSXR1100 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 10:35:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web3806.mail.yahoo.com (web3806.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.177]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FEZ9O22196 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:35:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010515143506.16304.qmail@web3806.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.180.229] by web3806.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 07:35:06 PDT Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:35:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: New rider To: Devin Ginther , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Devin, Welcome to the list. You can find some information about us on www.dccycles.com. We normally meet up at the Bike Night events that Chuck Pena and Mark Kitchell organize. There's one coming up this Sunday in Arlington, VA. (www.geocities.com/bikenight/) Chris Weaver VTR, YSR, dccycles.com --- Devin Ginther wrote: > Greetings to all [snip] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 11:58:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FFwXO23446 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id r.57.160339fa (15891); Tue, 15 May 2001 11:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web50.aolmail.aol.com (web50.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.161.11]) by air-id08.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.37) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:57:54 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:57:53 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday To: , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <57.160339fa.2832ac02@aol.com> Oo..oo..now I'm intrigued. Come on, spill. Let's hear the "cute" little nickname. Come one. Don't be shy. You're among friends. We won't pick on you. Much. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Tue, 15 May 2001 8:46:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Chris Weaver writes: < wrote: > Actually Chris (I won't mention your "cute" little > EARA nickname on this > list), From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 12:04:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m01.mx.aol.com (imo-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.4]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FG46O23531 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:04:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ScooterFZR@XXXXXX by imo-m01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id r.cd.6947b95 (5713); Tue, 15 May 2001 12:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web31.aolmail.aol.com (web31.aolmail.aol.com [205.188.222.7]) by air-id04.mx.aol.com (v78.38) with ESMTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:03:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:03:35 EDT From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New rider To: , , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Chris, You forgot to mention the dues he was asking about. Devin, to join our list, you need to send each member $10 and allow each one of us to take your bike for a spin at the next Bike Night. Welcome to the list. ;-) Scooter In a message dated Tue, 15 May 2001 10:38:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Chris Weaver writes: << Devin, Welcome to the list. You can find some information about us on www.dccycles.com. We normally meet up at the Bike Night events that Chuck Pena and Mark Kitchell organize. There's one coming up this Sunday in Arlington, VA. (www.geocities.com/bikenight/) Chris Weaver VTR, YSR, dccycles.com --- Devin Ginther wrote: > Greetings to all [snip] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 12:13:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f41.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FGDJO23745 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:13:11 -0700 Received: from 162.129.144.91 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:13:11 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.129.144.91] From: "Devin Ginther" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New rider Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:13:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 16:13:11.0794 (UTC) FILETIME=[F030ED20:01C0DD59] Ok guys, How about some nice T-bone steaks instead? I can wonder over to my old cow, Betsie, and carve some up. Sorry though, my bike doesn't like to get around.......she only works well with me on top.....only I can work the throttle just right I'm driving down for the Sunday meeting. Anyone want to ride down from the Baltimore vicinity??????????????? Devin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 12:13:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (f24.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.24]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FGDiO23755 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:13:37 -0700 Received: from 162.129.144.91 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:13:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [162.129.144.91] From: "Devin Ginther" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New rider Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:13:37 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 16:13:37.0337 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF6A7A90:01C0DD59] Ok guys, How about some nice T-bone steaks instead? I can wonder over to my old cow, Betsie, and carve some up. Sorry though, my bike doesn't like to get around.......she only works well with me on top.....only I can work the throttle just right I'm driving down for the Sunday meeting. Anyone want to ride down from the Baltimore vicinity??????????????? Devin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 12:14:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f38.hotmail.com [216.32.181.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FGEiO23765 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:03:03 -0700 Received: from 64.221.81.2 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:03:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.221.81.2] From: "Natasha Louis" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:03:02 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 16:03:03.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[856C6D30:01C0DD58] Nope, sorry, Chris has asked me not to. BUT, if you guys do come out to Monrovia on Sunday you will definitely hear it. There are a few EARA guys out there just waiting for Chris, lmao. Natasha Louis YSR 50, EARA #84 >From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX >To: , , > >Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:57:53 EDT > >Oo..oo..now I'm intrigued. Come on, spill. Let's hear the "cute" little >nickname. Come one. Don't be shy. You're among friends. We won't pick >on you. Much. ;-) > >Scooter > >In a message dated Tue, 15 May 2001 8:46:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >Chris Weaver writes: > ><VTR, YSR, dccycles.com > >p.s. The less said about that nickname, the better. > > >--- Natasha Louis wrote: > > Actually Chris (I won't mention your "cute" little > > EARA nickname on this > > list), _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 12:17:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FGHHO23855 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.11]) id QQkpdh19011 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:17:15 GMT Received: from [153.39.168.51] by imr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: macsupport10.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.168.51]) id QQkpdh13638 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:17:01 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjordan@XXXXXX Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200105140831.AA653918498@mail.toward.com> References: <200105140831.AA653918498@mail.toward.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:17:00 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Re: BattleTrax this Saturday? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Since I'm not going to Atlanta for the AMA event, I think I'm going to go do this. Evidentally, there is all kinds of things going on. Various dealers/brands will have tents and demo rides, as well as refreshments being provided. No entry fees either. Here's the times for the Battle Trax event. Practice 11:00 -12:30 Trials 1:00 - 2:30 3:00 -4:00 finals Awards 4:30 It's a wrung-what-you-brung format, so you just show up on your streetbike. I think you need to have a street-legal, registered bike, though. I might just trailer up my 400 racebike on spec, though. That'd be a lot easier and a lot more fun to ride than the CBR1000! As I understand it, these are observed time trials on pavement. Sounds like fun! Anyone else want to go? -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 12:53:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ws3.us2.outblaze.com (ws3.us2.outblaze.com [208.184.211.199]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FGrTO24412 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 16354 invoked by uid 1001); 15 May 2001 16:53:27 -0000 Message-ID: <20010515165327.16353.qmail@theglobe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Matthew Patton" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:53:27 -0500 Subject: incredible high-side save I was pointed to http://www.tl1000.com/video/amhangon.avi. Where/when was this? -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 12:56:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ws3.us2.outblaze.com (ws3.us2.outblaze.com [208.184.211.199]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FGuPO24435 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:56:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18179 invoked by uid 1001); 15 May 2001 16:56:24 -0000 Message-ID: <20010515165624.18178.qmail@theglobe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Matthew Patton" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:56:24 -0500 Subject: Burning up the tires Why do racers burn up their tires at the end of a race in a big cloud of white smoke? The announcers have various referred to the event as showmanship or "destroying the evidence." What evidence? their tire choice? Doesn't seem to be much of a secret, frankly, when all throughout the race the commentators go on and on about this guy having a softer front than the rear or what not. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 13:07:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f42.hotmail.com [216.32.181.42]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FH7BO24697 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:07:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:07:04 -0700 Received: from 64.221.81.2 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 17:07:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.221.81.2] From: "Natasha Louis" To: pattonme@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Burning up the tires Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:07:04 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 17:07:04.0475 (UTC) FILETIME=[7704E6B0:01C0DD61] It is to put on a show for the race fans. >From: "Matthew Patton" >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Burning up the tires >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:56:24 -0500 > >Why do racers burn up their tires at the end of a race in a big cloud of >white smoke? The announcers have various referred to the event as >showmanship or "destroying the evidence." What evidence? their tire choice? >Doesn't seem to be much of a secret, frankly, when all throughout the race >the commentators go on and on about this guy having a softer front than the >rear or what not. >-- > > >"If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, > they should have voted to convict." > > >_______________________________________________ >Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com > > >Powered by Outblaze _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 13:11:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FHBFO24728 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:11:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members.fcac.org (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4FHBBT29220 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:11:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: BattleTrax this Saturday? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 15 May 2001, Sean Jordan wrote: >It's a wrung-what-you-brung format, so you just show up on your >streetbike. I think you need to have a street-legal, registered bike, >though. I might just trailer up my 400 racebike on spec, though. >That'd be a lot easier and a lot more fun to ride than the CBR1000! >As I understand it, these are observed time trials on pavement. >Sounds like fun! Anyone else want to go? It is definitely a lot of fun. It's sort of Leon's Circles in a long and varied format. Strictly first gear (no, really). When I did it they were letting you ride their Buell's on the course (it was raining). I had a lot of fun. My old Hawk was pretty close to perfect for it (not as good as a YSR would be but it did the trick). You've got to be careful to keep the front end on the ground... Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) DCOffroad - the Wash, DC area offroad e-mail list: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dcoffroad/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 13:29:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailhub1a.TRW.COM (mailhub1a.TRW.COM [129.193.4.40]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FHTrO25055 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from navieg2.trw.com by mailhub1a.TRW.COM for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:16:31 -0700 Received: from resva-ms6.resva.trw.com ([158.114.112.204]) by navieg2 (NAVIEG 2.1 bld 63) with SMTP id M2001051510174913260 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:17:50 -0700 Received: from trw.com (dhcp182-96.fp.trw.com [129.193.182.96]) by resva-ms6.resva.trw.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:16:24 -0400 Message-Id: <3B016477.8D31CD9A@trw.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:16:39 -0400 From: Randy Moran Organization: TRW X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Burning up the tires References: <20010515165624.18178.qmail@theglobe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think it's mainly a matter of exuberance and showmanship. Valentino Rossi is famous for his burnout antics. I read somewhere that the tire guys don't much like it because they'd like to be able to examine the tires after a race to get an idea about wear. Randy Matthew Patton wrote: > Why do racers burn up their tires at the end of a race in a big cloud of white smoke? From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 14:21:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org (63-216-197-186.sdsl.cais.net [63.216.197.186]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FIL3O25977 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:21:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com ([209.249.185.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4FHFbI10512 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:15:38 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010515141854.0300bb20@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:19:27 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Traffic could be worse around here... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4FILYO25978 Runaway Train Reported in Ohio The Associated Press Tuesday, May 15, 2001; 2:11 p.m. EDT FINDLAY, Ohio M-^VM-^V A runaway freight train carrying hazardous materials traveled Tuesday through northwestern Ohio. Authorities who tried unsuccessfully to derail it said they believe the engineer had suffered a heart attack. The CSX train was carrying some kind of combustible material, the Hancock County Sheriff's Department said. The sheriff's office said it was not sure how the train would be stopped. A dispatcher said the train was slowing down because it was moving uphill. Officials tried to derail the train north of Findlay but were unsuccessful, said Robert Ruse, the city's safety director. The train was clocked 46 mph, he said. The sheriff's department did not immediately know where the train started. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org Neckties can impair blood flow to the brain and interfere with clear thinking, alertness, and judgment. From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 14:23:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fulcrum ([204.70.128.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FINSO25987 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:23:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) id <0GDE00D01328MX@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.ie.cw.net ([204.70.128.53]) by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) with ESMTP id <0GDE00D7M3280R@XXXXXX>; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-gw.ie.cw.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:23:30 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:22:51 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: RE: YSR Race on Sunday To: "'Natasha Louis'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC680680618@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just out of curiosity, how much do those YSRs cost? Any idea's on top speed? Thanks, -Calvin '00 VFR800 Interceptor '84 VF500F Interceptor -----Original Message----- From: Natasha Louis [mailto:tashalouis@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:03 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday Nope, sorry, Chris has asked me not to. BUT, if you guys do come out to Monrovia on Sunday you will definitely hear it. There are a few EARA guys out there just waiting for Chris, lmao. Natasha Louis YSR 50, EARA #84 >From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX >To: , , > >Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:57:53 EDT > >Oo..oo..now I'm intrigued. Come on, spill. Let's hear the "cute" little >nickname. Come one. Don't be shy. You're among friends. We won't pick >on you. Much. ;-) > >Scooter > >In a message dated Tue, 15 May 2001 8:46:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >Chris Weaver writes: > ><VTR, YSR, dccycles.com > >p.s. The less said about that nickname, the better. > > >--- Natasha Louis wrote: > > Actually Chris (I won't mention your "cute" little > > EARA nickname on this > > list), _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 14:29:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from webmailmta.go.com ([204.202.140.199]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FIToO26097 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gomailjtp04 ([10.212.0.164]) by mta07.seamail.go.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.10.12.16.25.p8) with ESMTP id <0GDE00CML38FSF@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:26:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Subject: Lane Splitting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <590808.989951200485.JavaMail.Arlington22201@gomailjtp04> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: GoMail 3.0.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thought this might be of interest to the list (especially in days of increasingly hotter weather, and increasingly heavier traffic). Any chance of enlightening our elected representatives? *VA State Code section 46.2-857 -- Driving two abreast in a single lane A person shall be guilty of reckless driving who drives any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, so as to be abreast of another vehicle in a lane designed for one vehicle, or drives any motor vehicle, including any motorcycle, so as to travel abreast of any other vehicle traveling in a lane designed for one vehicle. However, this section shall not apply to any validly authorized parade, motorcade, or motorcycle escort, nor shall it apply to a motor vehicle traveling in the same lane of traffic as a bicycle or moped. *MD Transportation Code section 21-1303 -- Operating on laned roadways (a) Scope of section. -- (1) On any roadway that is divided into two or more clearly marked lanes for vehicular traffic, the following rules, in addition to any others consistent with them apply. (2) Subsections (c) and (d) of this section do not apply to police officers in the performance of their official duties. (b) Motorcycle entitled to full use of lane. -- (1) This subsection does not apply to motorcycles operated two abreast in a single lane. (2) Every motorcycle is entitled to the full use of a lane, and a motor vehicle may not be driven in any manner that deprives any motorcycle of the full use of a lane. (c) Overtaking and passing. -- The operator of a motorcycle may not overtake and pass in the same lane occupied by the vehicle being overtaken. (d) Driving between lanes of traffic prohibited. -- A person may not operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic or between adjacent lines or rows of vehicles. (e) Motorcycles not to be driven more than two abreast. -- Motorcycles may not be operated more than two abreast in a single lane. ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 14:35:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14001.mail.yahoo.com (web14001.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.92]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FIZlO26267 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:35:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010515183530.97325.qmail@web14001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.229.31.23] by web14001.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:35:30 PDT Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:35:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Lane Splitting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <590808.989951200485.JavaMail.Arlington22201@gomailjtp04> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Aaron wrote: > Any chance of > enlightening our elected representatives? Absolutely none. Many cage drivers think it's a good law. If they can't go anywhere why should you? Leon. > > *VA State Code section 46.2-857 -- Driving two > abreast in a single lane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 14:43:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web3803.mail.yahoo.com (web3803.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.174]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FIhAO26414 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010515184308.11275.qmail@web3803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.180.74] by web3803.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:43:08 PDT Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:43:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: RE: YSR Race on Sunday To: "Ledford, Calvin" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC680680618@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Race YSRs generally run between $800-1500. Street legal YSRs are usually much more expensive due to their rarity. You'd probably have to pay $2000-3000 for one of these. The original speedometer on YSRs went to 50mph, and that seems to be what people quote for the top speed. I haven't had the occasion to get mine to top speed yet. When I do the WERA National at Summit, I'll sure know! I'm going to have to go with some pretty radical gearing for those straights... Chris Weaver YSR, VTR, dccycles.com --- "Ledford, Calvin" wrote: > Just out of curiosity, how much do those YSRs cost? > Any idea's on top > speed? > > Thanks, > > -Calvin > '00 VFR800 Interceptor > '84 VF500F Interceptor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Natasha Louis [mailto:tashalouis@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:03 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday > > > Nope, sorry, Chris has asked me not to. BUT, if you > guys do come out to > Monrovia on Sunday you will definitely hear it. > There are a few EARA guys > out there just waiting for Chris, lmao. > > Natasha Louis > YSR 50, EARA #84 > > > >From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > >To: , > , > > > >Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday > >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:57:53 EDT > > > >Oo..oo..now I'm intrigued. Come on, spill. Let's > hear the "cute" little > >nickname. Come one. Don't be shy. You're among > friends. We won't pick > >on you. Much. ;-) > > > >Scooter > > > >In a message dated Tue, 15 May 2001 8:46:23 AM > Eastern Daylight Time, > >Chris Weaver writes: > > > >< >VTR, YSR, dccycles.com > > > >p.s. The less said about that nickname, the better. > > > > > >--- Natasha Louis wrote: > > > Actually Chris (I won't mention your "cute" > little > > > EARA nickname on this > > > list), > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 14:48:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9008.mail.yahoo.com (web9008.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.170]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FImTO26506 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010515184826.83676.qmail@web9008.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.8.43.134] by web9008.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:48:26 PDT Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:48:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Tight Squeeze Racing Subject: Danny Thompson Injury Update To: DC Cycles List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sunday May 13: Danny Thompson is/was an SV650 racer from Warrenton, VA. He crashed in Turn 10 at Summit Point Raceway on Sunday during the LW Superbike race. Reports indicate that he was racing against Grady Anderson for 2nd place, when the two collided. Danny was transported to Jefferson Memorial Hospital. Tuesday May 15: He just got home from the hospital, is in a lot of pain but doing OK. He has 5-8 broken ribs in his back, that is why they kept him for so long. They also think that he may have broken a bone in his hand, but it was so swollen they couldn't tell. Dee, Danny's wife, says that the bike is a mess, of course that is the first thing Danny wanted to see when he got home. --- The TSR Injury Fund accepts donations for rider's injured during racing activities. To make a donation, please visit: http://www.TightSqueezeRacing.org/InjuryFund.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 15:00:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fulcrum ([204.70.128.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FJ0CO26757 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:00:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) id <0GDE00F014S5BC@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.ie.cw.net ([204.70.128.53]) by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) with ESMTP id <0GDE00F3H4S51H@XXXXXX>; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-gw.ie.cw.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:00:40 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:00:02 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: RE: Lane Splitting To: "'Leon Begeman'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC68068061C@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This really bugs the crap out of me, it just shows the petty immaturity of most US citizens. I spend 10K on a machine that allows me to use an otherwise unused piece of road, and someone gets pissed because even though they had the same choice they went a different route and then get jealous because I have an advantage they don't. And the best part is that if I could lane split, it would actually (granted in a small way) reduce the traffic that they have no choice but to sit in. I was in Europe in January (Paris), and you wouldn't believe how well the cages and bikers get along over there. Laning is a way of life, and I'd say around Paris the ratio of bikes to cars is 50-50. That means that on a 2 lane, unidirectional road there's 2 lanes of cars and like 3 more of bikes... -Calvin '00 VFR800 Interceptor '84 VF500F Interceptor -----Original Message----- From: Leon Begeman [mailto:mriderleon@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:36 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Lane Splitting --- Aaron wrote: > Any chance of > enlightening our elected representatives? Absolutely none. Many cage drivers think it's a good law. If they can't go anywhere why should you? Leon. > > *VA State Code section 46.2-857 -- Driving two > abreast in a single lane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 15:15:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11207.mail.yahoo.com (web11207.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.189]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FJFvO26999 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:15:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010515191552.77005.qmail@web11207.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web11207.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:15:52 PDT Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:15:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: RE: Lane Splitting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC68068061C@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was in Paris last year and took a good picture of lane splitting at a traffic light. All of the bikes weaved to the front, then took off at green. I wonder if a photo to the legislators would have any affect whatsoever. Can't let the French do something better than us 'mercans. --- "Ledford, Calvin" wrote: > I was in Europe in January (Paris), and you wouldn't > believe how well the > cages and bikers get along over there. Laning is a > way of life, and I'd say > around Paris the ratio of bikes to cars is 50-50. > That means that on a 2 > lane, unidirectional road there's 2 lanes of cars > and like 3 more of > bikes... > > -Calvin > '00 VFR800 Interceptor > '84 VF500F Interceptor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [mailto:mriderleon@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:36 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Lane Splitting > > > --- Aaron wrote: > > Any chance of > > enlightening our elected representatives? > > Absolutely none. Many cage drivers think it's a > good > law. If they can't go anywhere why should you? > > Leon. > > > > *VA State Code section 46.2-857 -- Driving two > > abreast in a single lane > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 15:34:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f140.hotmail.com [216.32.181.140]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FJYQO27251 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:34:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:34:19 -0700 Received: from 64.221.81.2 by lw2fd.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 May 2001 19:34:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.221.81.2] From: "Natasha Louis" To: cledford@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: YSR Race on Sunday Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:34:19 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 19:34:19.0781 (UTC) FILETIME=[09459B50:01C0DD76] Calvin, I know where you can buy a race ready stocker for $1500. A friend of mine builds them as he gets orders, I think he has enough frames and parts, etc. right now for about 5 YSR's. If anybody is interested, please contact me at tashalouis@XXXXXX. Natasha Louis YSR 50 EARA #84 Girlie Girl / Fugi's Factory Racing >From: "Ledford, Calvin" >To: 'Natasha Louis' , dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: YSR Race on Sunday >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:22:51 -0400 > >Just out of curiosity, how much do those YSRs cost? Any idea's on top >speed? > >Thanks, > >-Calvin >'00 VFR800 Interceptor >'84 VF500F Interceptor > >-----Original Message----- >From: Natasha Louis [mailto:tashalouis@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:03 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday > > >Nope, sorry, Chris has asked me not to. BUT, if you guys do come out to >Monrovia on Sunday you will definitely hear it. There are a few EARA guys >out there just waiting for Chris, lmao. > >Natasha Louis >YSR 50, EARA #84 > > > >From: ScooterFZR@XXXXXX > >To: , , > > > >Subject: Re: YSR Race on Sunday > >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:57:53 EDT > > > >Oo..oo..now I'm intrigued. Come on, spill. Let's hear the "cute" little > >nickname. Come one. Don't be shy. You're among friends. We won't pick > >on you. Much. ;-) > > > >Scooter > > > >In a message dated Tue, 15 May 2001 8:46:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > >Chris Weaver writes: > > > >< >VTR, YSR, dccycles.com > > > >p.s. The less said about that nickname, the better. > > > > > >--- Natasha Louis wrote: > > > Actually Chris (I won't mention your "cute" little > > > EARA nickname on this > > > list), > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 15:36:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpiserv2.uu.net (mail.publicintegrity.org [63.72.70.130]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FJanO27340 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:36:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CPISERV2 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:32:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: eschelzig@XXXXXX To: m_rosenstock@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Lane Splitting Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:32:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" lest we forget, lane splitting is legal on Kalifornia's highways . . . -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:16 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Lane Splitting I was in Paris last year and took a good picture of lane splitting at a traffic light. All of the bikes weaved to the front, then took off at green. I wonder if a photo to the legislators would have any affect whatsoever. Can't let the French do something better than us 'mercans. --- "Ledford, Calvin" wrote: > I was in Europe in January (Paris), and you wouldn't > believe how well the > cages and bikers get along over there. Laning is a > way of life, and I'd say > around Paris the ratio of bikes to cars is 50-50. > That means that on a 2 > lane, unidirectional road there's 2 lanes of cars > and like 3 more of > bikes... > > -Calvin > '00 VFR800 Interceptor > '84 VF500F Interceptor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [mailto:mriderleon@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:36 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Lane Splitting > > > --- Aaron wrote: > > Any chance of > > enlightening our elected representatives? > > Absolutely none. Many cage drivers think it's a > good > law. If they can't go anywhere why should you? > > Leon. > > > > *VA State Code section 46.2-857 -- Driving two > > abreast in a single lane > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 15:44:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com [207.46.181.79]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FJi9O27431 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavilion ([63.15.236.240]) by cpimssmtpu03.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Tue, 15 May 2001 12:43:47 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: Your choice of sportbike? Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:48:05 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010515021225.86828.qmail@web10501.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 19:43:48.0542 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C47A5E0:01C0DD77] No exotics! The MV Augusta F4 SENNA is awesome looking! N a steal at the low, low $25k price (I mean $24,995 + $5 for a tank of gas!!!). :) Actually, this bike is one of the best looking things i have ever seen as far as sport bikes go. I have never seen a MV anywhere on the road thou. Seen a couple of Ducatis, the MV makes them look very plain. The cagiva v-raptor looks pretty awesome, it has what i call agressive styling :). Seriously... <<1. Suzuki Gsxr750>> Got a 2000 model N love it. :0 If you are into long range cruising I wouldn't advise it however. It's very comfy as sport bike goes (puts a CBRF4's seat to shame IMO), but a sport tourer it is not. :) Im actually leaning towards the gsxr750, i found some decent 1999's for in the 6000$ area(used). The gsxr1000 and r1 look great, but i dont think i want to shell out that kind of money. I want to buy a used model. I have heard nothing but good things about the 750, seems like a very good sports bike capable of matching more expensive models. <<2. Suzuki Gsxr1000>> Nearly identical to the 750. More power, frame a lil bit stronger; a couple more tricked out parts (titanium exhaust). IMO you don't need the extra HP on the street that the liter bike has over the 750. The extra torque would be nice however. Then again, is just a few bucks more than the 750. What about a Suzuki 1000TLR? A bit heavier than the GSXR's, but its got a lot of power and monster torque. (also has that cool twin rumble!!!) Dont particularly care for those :). They are pretty awesome looking, but right now the gsxr750 is up on my list. I would like to find one in another paint scheme rather than the blue-white colors it commonly has. RIcardo Pontes 1998 Triumph Tiger From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 15:59:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FJxGO27691 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-51-92.s346.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.51.92] helo=palladio) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14zkyP-00077e-00 ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:59:13 -0400 Message-ID: <00aa01c0dd79$eba4c7c0$bb82fea9@palladio> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Ledford, Calvin" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC68068061C@resie03.ie.cw.net> Subject: Re: Lane Splitting Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:48:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I've brought this up before. As far as I can tell, the DC traffic code has no specific prohibition on lane sharing. They can get you for an "improper lane change" if you skirt around a vehicle without crossing a painted line. Filtering is a customary practice by both bicycles and motorcycles. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Ledford, Calvin To: 'Leon Begeman' ; Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:00 PM Subject: RE: Lane Splitting > This really bugs the crap out of me, it just shows the petty immaturity of > most US citizens. I spend 10K on a machine that allows me to use an > otherwise unused piece of road, and someone gets pissed because even though > they had the same choice they went a different route and then get jealous > because I have an advantage they don't. And the best part is that if I > could lane split, it would actually (granted in a small way) reduce the > traffic that they have no choice but to sit in. > > I was in Europe in January (Paris), and you wouldn't believe how well the > cages and bikers get along over there. Laning is a way of life, and I'd say > around Paris the ratio of bikes to cars is 50-50. That means that on a 2 > lane, unidirectional road there's 2 lanes of cars and like 3 more of > bikes... > > -Calvin > '00 VFR800 Interceptor > '84 VF500F Interceptor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [mailto:mriderleon@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:36 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Lane Splitting > > > --- Aaron wrote: > > Any chance of > > enlightening our elected representatives? > > Absolutely none. Many cage drivers think it's a good > law. If they can't go anywhere why should you? > > Leon. > > > > *VA State Code section 46.2-857 -- Driving two > > abreast in a single lane > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 16:32:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web1606.mail.yahoo.com (web1606.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.206]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FKWHO28269 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 1432 invoked by uid 60001); 15 May 2001 20:32:15 -0000 Message-ID: <20010515203215.1431.qmail@web1606.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web1606.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:32:15 PDT Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:32:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Biker Joe Subject: RE: Lane Splitting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Actually I just read (in David Hough's "Proficient Motorcycling") that it's more like lane splitting is no illegal. It's a judgment call left to the cop on the scene to determine if lane splitting is safe under the conditions. Cops he interviewed had varying opinions as to when they would start ticketing. -- Joe '99 SV650 --- eschelzig@XXXXXX wrote: > lest we forget, lane splitting is legal on > Kalifornia's highways . . . > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 17:39:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FLd7O29299 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 17:39:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.15]) id QQkpec22945; Tue, 15 May 2001 21:39:03 GMT Received: from [153.39.168.51] by imr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: macsupport10.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.168.51]) id QQkpec06449; Tue, 15 May 2001 21:37:52 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjordan@XXXXXX Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:37:49 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, dccycles2@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Bike Night Tonight! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" There's a Bike Night tonight at Revolution Coffee Lounge in Herndon. (Not to be confused with the far superior Bike Nights arranged by Mark & Chuck) They'll be showing Speedvision & racing video. I'll be up there hanging out, so if anyone drops by, find me and say hello! http://www.revolutioncoffeelounge.com/ -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 17:45:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com [207.46.181.77]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FLjEO29457 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 17:45:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavilion ([63.10.42.246]) by cpimssmtpu01.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Tue, 15 May 2001 14:45:00 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" Subject: RE: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:49:14 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <005801c0dcdb$f812bce0$9cf670d8@dccracing.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 21:45:01.0526 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B50EF60:01C0DD88] This past weekend in my first practice, I saw a really nasty crash right in front of me on the track, and it's enough to make you throw up in your helmet because all you can think to yourself is "thank god that's not me, and I hope he/she is alright." If you'd like, I will pay your entry fee to summit one weekend and give you a real race experience. I'll teach you how it all works and maybe you'll enjoy it better. If it's not your thing, than I completely understand. My point being is if you just don't understand it and want someone to show you the ropes, I'd be more than happy to help. :-) Laura, i keep hearing about summit, do you pay a fee and race in the track?? Dont you need a special racing license etc..? That is very nice of you, but i would be worried about being on a track with people who could get hurt because i do not know what i am doing. I could not find any motorcycle related info on the site. I must be blind. Ricardo From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 18:15:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ws3.us2.outblaze.com (ws3.us2.outblaze.com [208.184.211.199]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4FMF3O29950 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 18:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 11302 invoked by uid 1001); 15 May 2001 22:15:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20010515221501.11301.qmail@theglobe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "Matthew Patton" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:15:01 -0500 Subject: Anyone know a Ron E? He's in Alexandria, VA and selling an RD400 but his ad is missing contact information. -- "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, they should have voted to convict." _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com Powered by Outblaze From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 18:37:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.141]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4FMbRO00397 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 18:37:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj133739a ([24.15.184.123]) by femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010515223724.DCOT12893.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj133739a>; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:37:24 -0700 Message-ID: <009401c0dd8f$0c8b6e20$7bb80f18@reston1.va.home.com> From: "Keith Lamond" To: "Matthew Patton" , References: <20010515165327.16353.qmail@theglobe.com> Subject: Re: incredible high-side save Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:33:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Will you use this video in your MSF classes to demonstrate the correct way to recover from high-siding your bike? Keith 84 Nighthawk S 84 Magna V30 (The wife's) Reston VA ----------------------------------------------------------- Check out my Band's website: http://www.chaotika.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Patton" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:53 PM Subject: incredible high-side save > I was pointed to http://www.tl1000.com/video/amhangon.avi. > > Where/when was this? > > -- > > > "If Democrats wanted Gore to be president so bad, > they should have voted to convict." > > > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://mail.theglobe.com > > > Powered by Outblaze > From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 20:00:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h007.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.171]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4G00GO01941 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 22809 invoked from network); 15 May 2001 17:00:08 -0700 Received: from w156.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net (HELO laura) (216.112.246.156) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.171) with SMTP; 15 May 2001 17:00:08 -0700 X-Sent: 16 May 2001 00:00:08 GMT Message-ID: <000701c0dd9b$3c52c2a0$9cf670d8@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: Subject: attention racers Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:00:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 so I can update the racing section weekly on our site, please send me any information you wanted posted on your race weekend (if you won, etc.) since I can't keep track of everyone on my own. ;-) Just send it to me in email and I'll post it in our racing news section. LAG From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 20:35:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h017.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.181]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4G0ZtO02467 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 8605 invoked from network); 15 May 2001 17:35:48 -0700 Received: from w156.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net (HELO laura) (216.112.246.156) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.181) with SMTP; 15 May 2001 17:35:48 -0700 X-Sent: 16 May 2001 00:35:48 GMT Message-ID: <000801c0dda0$37de5f40$9cf670d8@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: "Ricardo Pontes" , "Dccycles" References: Subject: Re: dc-cycles digest for 05/10/01 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:36:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > > Laura, > > i keep hearing about summit, do you pay a fee and race in the track?? Dont > you need a special racing license etc..? That is very nice of you, but i > would be worried about being on a track with people who could get hurt > because i do not know what i am doing. I could not find any motorcycle > related info on the site. I must be blind. > Yes, you do have to have a racing license. What I'm talking about is if you want to come spectate and watch us race, I'll pay for you to get in and spectate. Show you around the pits, the track, and explain racing in general. :-) If that's something you'd enjoy, let me know. We'd love to have you. I just updated the racing section of the site everyone! and also put a bike night reminder on the homepage. Laura From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 20:53:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4G0r9O02708 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO ([38.38.169.160]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f4G0pFd85211; Tue, 15 May 2001 17:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000c01c0dda2$3b6e51e0$f9a82626@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Cc: Subject: Bike gatherings... Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:44:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 <> Greetings to all, I wanted to introduce myself. I recently moved up here from Dallas, Texas and live in Baltimore, MD. I work at Johns Hopkins Hospital as a Biomedical Engineer <<\Snip>> Hey, I'm Howard, and before I get to motorcycling, I'd like to tell you that I work for Chapel Valley Landscape Company. We maintain much of the grounds at JHU there on Broadway. Anyway... We have an informal "bike night" every Wednesday at 6:00 in Mt. Airy, MD. A group of my friends and I try to meet at 6:00 and leave by 6:30 to go ride for the evening. Some locales include Harpers Ferry, Gettysburg, Annapolis, downtown DC, and other places too. We ride for about 100 miles or until about 11:00, whichever comes first. But some people will peel off early if they have to get home earlier than that. Mt. Airy is located at exit 68 of Interstate 70. It's pretty much where Howard, Carroll, Montgomery and Frederick counties meet. From B-more, head west on 70 to exit 68, Rt. 27. Quickly get into the left lane after exiting the off ramp. Go north on 27 to your first light and make a left, and Roy Rogers is on the right. That's where we meet. Eat at 5:50 or 6:00, depart at 6:30 sharp. Be loaded and gassed before we go, we hate to wait. All types of bikes are encouraged to attend. Our group encompasses everything from a 2001 ZX-9R to a '67 Sportster, and all in between. We are a very relaxed riding group, no dragging knees or anything stupid. We just ride to enjoy ourselves. And on that tip, we don't ride in no stinkin' rain. If there is even a hint of rain in the forecast, we stay our asses at home. We like to ride, but we aren't massochists for chrissakes. I may or may not be there this week. I have been without wheels now for about 6 weeks, and don't expect delivery of my FLHT until early next week. Two weeks ago I didn't go. Last week I did 'cause one of the gang let me ride his wife's (yeah, right, his wife's, sure) Sporster. I may not be there this week. I just don't know. But don't let that stop you from attending, the guys are very nice and desperately seek more riders to make the group bigger and therefore more fun. Hope to see you there. I hope you enjoy the list, too. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Daidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard (soon!) 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Tue May 15 20:54:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4G0spO02718 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO ([38.38.169.160]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f4G0rld85220; Tue, 15 May 2001 17:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001401c0dda2$95d0bf60$f9a82626@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: Cc: Subject: Bike gatherings... Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:52:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 <> Greetings to all, I wanted to introduce myself. I recently moved up here from Dallas, Texas and live in Baltimore, MD. I work at Johns Hopkins Hospital as a Biomedical Engineer <<\Snip>> Hey, I'm Howard, and before I get to motorcycling, I'd like to tell you that I work for Chapel Valley Landscape Company. We maintain much of the grounds at JHU there on Broadway. Anyway... We have an informal "bike night" every Wednesday at 6:00 in Mt. Airy, MD. A group of my friends and I try to meet at 6:00 and leave by 6:30 to go ride for the evening. Some locales include Harpers Ferry, Gettysburg, Annapolis, downtown DC, and other places too. We ride for about 100 miles or until about 11:00, whichever comes first. But some people will peel off early if they have to get home earlier than that. Mt. Airy is located at exit 68 of Interstate 70. It's pretty much where Howard, Carroll, Montgomery and Frederick counties meet. From B-more, head west on 70 to exit 68, Rt. 27. Quickly get into the left lane after exiting the off ramp. Go north on 27 to your first light and make a left, and Roy Rogers is on the right. That's where we meet. Eat at 5:50 or 6:00, depart at 6:30 sharp. Be loaded and gassed before we go, we hate to wait. All types of bikes are encouraged to attend. Our group encompasses everything from a 2001 ZX-9R to a '67 Sportster, and all in between. We are a very relaxed riding group, no dragging knees or anything stupid. We just ride to enjoy ourselves. And on that tip, we don't ride in no stinkin' rain. If there is even a hint of rain in the forecast, we stay our asses at home. We like to ride, but we aren't massochists for chrissakes. I may or may not be there this week. I have been without wheels now for about 6 weeks, and don't expect delivery of my FLHT until early next week. Two weeks ago I didn't go. Last week I did 'cause one of the gang let me ride his wife's (yeah, right, his wife's, sure) Sporster. I may not be there this week. I just don't know. But don't let that stop you from attending, the guys are very nice and desperately seek more riders to make the group bigger and therefore more fun. Hope to see you there. I hope you enjoy the list, too. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Daidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard (soon!) 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 04:00:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4G80XO10088 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:00:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-3-226.s988.apx1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.3.226]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14zwER-0006nS-00 ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:00:31 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: anyone we know ? Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:06:49 -0700 Message-ID: References: <200105041226.IAA19059@typhoon.pop3now.com> In-Reply-To: <200105041226.IAA19059@typhoon.pop3now.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4G80rO10089 Sounds like the officer shoulda been charged with wreckless driving!!! Is there any proof these bikes existed or maybe he wrecked his car and needed a reason/excuse why he was driving fast? (so he made one up?) Danny devils advocate |>springfield interchange, the VA trooper had a single car accident |>taking a ramp too fast. Bikers got away, last seen crossing the |>Wilson Bridge. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 04:17:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4G8HmO10319 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-3-226.s988.apx1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.3.226]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14zwV8-0007Ib-00 ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:17:47 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: "Han Park" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer - home tire changing 101 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:24:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <10e501c0d4ac$ad6bf210$c90d0a0a@answerlogic.com> In-Reply-To: <10e501c0d4ac$ad6bf210$c90d0a0a@answerlogic.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4G8HpO10320 On Fri, 4 May 2001 11:12:31 -0400, you wrote: |> Has anyone used the Harbor Freight tire changer? I remember there was |>some talk about people ordering it a while ago but there was no follow up. Screw that machine! After some education from wise men such as leon, todd, and others, let me tell you! Remove wheel from bike. Use a C clamp in one or two spots to break the bead of the tire all the way around. (careful to apply the c clamp to the tire and not the rim) spray the rim with soapy water, grab two tire irons (and rags to not damage the paint) remove the tire from the wheel just like a bicycle tire. use the rags to act as buffers between the tire irons and rim. To put the new tire on, Find the marker spot circle on the tire, align it with the valve stem. make sure you are putting the tire on with the arrow facing forward and the rim facing foward. spray the tire/wheel with the soapy water. push the tire on the rim. inflate with a powerful compressor until the bead seats. ( 1 pop, then a 2nd pop). check tire pressure and inflate accordingly. I have changed my front and rear tires in the past 2 weeks. I balanced neither. I figured I'd pull the wheel and balance it if were necceary. I get no high speed wobble though. However to balance is just as easy. buy some wheel weights and duct tape. Place wheel on axle, on a stand for the axle. Spin it. let it stop. where it stops is the heavy point. use your duct tape and put a certain weight (1/4 oz?) at the top of the wheel. spin it again. if the 1/4 oz weight drops to the bottom you ahve too much weight added. put a smaller weight on and do it again. if the 1/4 oz weight stays at the top you have not enough weight to counter balance and you need to add another 1/4 oz. if the weight fades anywhere else, your wheel is balanced, install wheel and ride your bike fast! :) spin it a few times to make sure. It is really all about technique and not much about being a muscle head. Rember to only pull the c clamp off to when you get around to prying that part of the tire over the lip. I'm learning some good stuff and loving it! btw have a friend with you to help.. and make sure they use technique and not force. don't wnat your rims scratched up. Also remember to do it on top of a soft surface so your rims/rotors don't get scratched. Thanks goes out to all those who've discussed at home tire changes with me. Danny what do I need a dealer for again? From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 04:24:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4G8OAO10398 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:24:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-3-226.s988.apx1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.3.226]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14zwbJ-0007T3-00 ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:24:09 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: "dthompso1@XXXXXX" Cc: "Dc-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: Re: Hey look at this new (to me) term..... Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:30:26 -0700 Message-ID: <55p4gtc1ga9kj7s13f7mgb9dbvnhgu7au7@4ax.com> References: <01C0D799.8C47AE90.dthompso1@erols.com> In-Reply-To: <01C0D799.8C47AE90.dthompso1@erols.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4G8OCO10399 |>Now Brian is even well known enough to have a term named after him. Not sure it |>is one I would want named after me, but at least it is something...I |>guess...maybe? :) "Murderer" or "victim"? was brian the owner or the idiot? :) From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 04:29:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4G8TxO10488 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:29:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-3-226.s988.apx1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.3.226]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 14zwgv-0007dd-00 ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:29:57 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: "Ricardo Pontes" Cc: "Dccycles" Subject: Re: Your choice of sportbike? Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 04:36:14 -0700 Message-ID: <3cp4gtgee40mrmnid760anoki2sfb8ad6b@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4G8U1O10489 On Sun, 13 May 2001 19:30:20 -0400, you wrote: |>1. Suzuki Gsxr750 light weight good power, not too much power for an experienced rider... yet plenty enough to err uhm.. be tax exemped for those who are issued taxes for speeds slower than you :) screw all those heavy bikes. If you want raw power too, get the gsxr 1000. Danny I'd get the 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 08:00:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gsfc.nasa.gov (funhouse.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.254.140]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4GC07O13632 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 08:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sunset.gsfc.nasa.gov (sunset.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.221.159]) by gsfc.nasa.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA00294 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 07:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010516073744.00a75ec0@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: rrapp@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 07:42:40 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Rapp Subject: I want'a be a Mack truck In-Reply-To: <590808.989951200485.JavaMail.Arlington22201@gomailjtp04> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4GC0RO13633 Image seeing a Semi coming up on you at speeds of a sportbike! -Bob Courtesy of website at Aerostich (price: $5200!) Holographic Vehicle Projector Oncoming traffic sees the sharply glowing holographically projected image of whatever your choose. Imagine projecting a transparent from behind (but real appearing from the front) Peterbuilt tractor trailer rig instead of your bike, M-^Eespecially on high speed twisty backroads. Uses only the power from your headlight, channeled through a small, sophisticated holographic projector that is about the size of a soft drink can. Universal clamp-on design that mounts easily to any machine. Interchangeable image cartridges include: Ratty Diamond Reo oil tanker semi, Massy Harris Ag-master combine, weaving 70M-^Rs Buick Electra duce and a quarter with drunk at wheel, late model Ford Crown Vic highway patrol car, Boeing 747 on emergency landing final approach (requires 100 watt high beam in headlamp), Harley fat and low Ness custom. Includes walnut and complete installation instructions. Color is black chrome titanium. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 10:04:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mcnte1.mc.cc.md.us ([160.253.138.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4GE4LO15562 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 10:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by MCNTE1 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 16 May 2001 10:01:51 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Goldberg, Saul" To: "'Matthew Rosenstock'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Lane Splitting/Rant Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:01:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Aw jeez. Here we go again with the lane-splitting thread! First of all, lane-splitting without frequent injuries (to bikers, mostly) demands respect, consciousness, and driving skill from most cagers most of the time. (Can we assume for the sake of argument that bikers are skilled enough?) Second of all first of all will never, ever happen on American roads (with the possible exception of parts of California at certain times on certain days)! And never mind those anecdotal tales from other countries. We don't really want our driving to be like most of theirs, fer shur. That being the case, these laws at least afford me a semblance of a modicum of protection from cagers who still want to "share" my exit ramp when they don't feel I am taking it fast enough in the rain in the dark or are talking on their cell phones while carelessly passing me while still in my lane or cutting me off on the way to their exit while writing in their dayplanners. Sorry folks, but I'll take such laws for thier protection and wait and hope for the day when we might consider thinking about allowing legal L/S. Until then, I'll just operate as a full vehicle and expect to be respected as such. Ah, but today I took the two-wheeled self-propelled thingie. Life is good, indeed. Saul -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:16 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Lane Splitting I was in Paris last year and took a good picture of lane splitting at a traffic light. All of the bikes weaved to the front, then took off at green. I wonder if a photo to the legislators would have any affect whatsoever. Can't let the French do something better than us 'mercans. --- "Ledford, Calvin" wrote: > I was in Europe in January (Paris), and you wouldn't > believe how well the > cages and bikers get along over there. Laning is a > way of life, and I'd say > around Paris the ratio of bikes to cars is 50-50. > That means that on a 2 > lane, unidirectional road there's 2 lanes of cars > and like 3 more of > bikes... > > -Calvin > '00 VFR800 Interceptor > '84 VF500F Interceptor > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leon Begeman [mailto:mriderleon@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:36 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Lane Splitting > > > --- Aaron wrote: > > Any chance of > > enlightening our elected representatives? > > Absolutely none. Many cage drivers think it's a > good > law. If they can't go anywhere why should you? > > Leon. > > > > *VA State Code section 46.2-857 -- Driving two > > abreast in a single lane > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 10:04:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fastandwily.com (003.066.021.004.virginia.com [4.21.66.3] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4GE4pO15572 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 10:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:03:14 -0400 Message-Id: <200105161003.AA57802962@fastandwily.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Scott Luttrell" Reply-To: To: "Carlos Bonds" , "DC Cycle mailing list" , "Shannon Casey" , , Subject: Ducati Motorcycle Founder Dies X-Mailer: Guess he had to go sooner or later, shame. BOLOGNA, Italy (AP) - Bruno Cavalieri Ducati, the last surviving founder of the motorcycle company that bears the family name, has died at the age of 96. The Ducati company said he died Monday at a residence for the elderly in the northern town of Ispra on Lake Maggiore. ``In spite of his age, (he) kept in touch with the company,'' said a statement from Ducati, which is famous for its sleek, stylish bikes. Cavalieri Ducati was also the author of ``History of Ducati,'' published in 1991. An architect, Cavalieri Ducati designed the factory where he and brothers Adriano and Marcello started their first venture - the production of condensers and radio equipment - in 1935. After Allied bombs destroyed the plant in World War II, they switched to motorcycles. The company enjoyed both commercial and sporting success in the 1950s and 1960s, but its fortunes dipped in the 1970s and 1980s. A group of American investors bought the company in 1996 and turned it around. Ducati won a string of Superbike world championships and last year, it sold an entire year's production of the MH900evoluzione bike within hours in an online sale. Cavalieri Ducati's funeral was scheduled for Thursday in Bologna. No information on survivors was immediately available. -- Scott Luttrell Fast & Wily Racing www.fastandwily.com -- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 10:51:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4GEpjO16369 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 10:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 207-172-106-195.s195.tnt2.war.va.dialup.rcn.com ([207.172.106.195] helo=oemcomputer) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 1502eN-0003of-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 16 May 2001 10:51:43 -0400 Message-ID: <02a701c0de17$780e6fc0$c36aaccf@oemcomputer> From: "Danny Thompson" To: Subject: update Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:49:53 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Greetings all, a quick note to say thanks and let those who are interested know what is up. 1st- Thank you to everyone for the well wishes and prayers for speedy recovery. We have a great community among motorcycle riders and racers. 2nd- I am home from the hospital and doing pretty well. I am able to walk and get around slowly. The pain is not bad when I am in the right position and I don't yawn, cough, sneeze, breathe too deeply, or move wrong. Getting up / down and into / out of bed is the worst. I got a pretty good night sleep last night, it was so good to be home in my own bed. 3rd- My wife has been wonderful about, and through it all. She was with me at the hospital keeping me company all day Monday and was there to bring me home Tuesday. She is taking good care of me and being a real trooper. She has already mentioned "when I get well and race again", so she is supportive and understanding. My daughter has been a great nurse, moving pillows, getting me water, playing playstation with me, generally helping me when I need something. I am so thankful to God for my family. 4th- Thanks to Roger Lyle and all the MARRC crew for taking good care of me when I went down until I was at the hospital. Good people one and all! 5th- Thanks to God for watching over me. He is a great and loving father! I will be mending for a while, but have a tentative goal of making the mid-June WERA cycle jam at VIR. I will have to get the bike fixed and get a new helmet, gloves and back protector. If there is any doubt to anyone out there about wearing a back protector, the rib breaks are in a line along the edge of the "impact" area of the back protector. Without it, I am sure my spine would have sustained the brunt of the impact and damage. Thanks again to everyone who has offered a kind word. God bless, Danny '98 VTR '99 SV (race bike) battered for now... Novice #903 www.onewayracing.org Sponsored by: Shen Valley Trailers: www.shenvalleywarrenton.com, toll free @ 888-743-6825 Blalock Cycle: www.blalockcycle.com, 540-347-4591 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 12:22:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4GGMpO17922 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 12:22:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-47-30.s284.tnt4.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.47.30] helo=palladio) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 15044S-0004G7-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 16 May 2001 12:22:49 -0400 Message-ID: <00c501c0de24$dc54ae60$bb82fea9@palladio> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "dc-cycles list" Subject: Positive DC DMV experience Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:37:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 As opposed to the ever-popular DC government bashing, I had a great experience getting my bike inspected this morning. There was _no line_ at 8 AM. They waved me up to a bay, checked the lights, etc. and gave it the visual once over. The inspector was a rider and wanted to know all about the bike (just being friendly-it's not part of the inspection process), including some of the accessories I have. Anyway, we chatted briefly, I got my sticker and was on my merry way in less than ten minutes. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F http://users.erols.com/pawilson From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 13:03:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4GH3mO18610 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 13:03:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp03.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.143]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GDF00KALU1AI0@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 16 May 2001 17:03:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp03.wcomnet.com by dgismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GDF00E01U0ZMP@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 16 May 2001 17:03:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from chan3544t ([166.36.153.47]) by dgismtp03.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GDF00ANWU0RQT@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 16 May 2001 17:02:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:01:55 -0400 From: Robert Verde Subject: Any leads on Honda F2 parts bike? To: "DC Cycles (E-mail)" Reply-to: c-Robert.Verde@XXXXXX Message-id: <002101c0de29$e96e76d0$2f9924a6@wcomnet.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal I am interested in trying a forks/wheels swap on my older Honda Interceptor, and have seen references to the Honda CBR600F2 as being a good donor candidate. Anyone have the wheels, front fork and triples, etc., for a Honda F2/F3? Or any leads on a good parts bike would be most appreciated. (Got that ol' Wide Tire Envy...) Thanks, Robert Verde 1983 Honda VF750F Interceptor "BUDOKA" From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 16:51:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9604.mail.yahoo.com (web9604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.183]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4GKpvO22394 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 16:51:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010516205154.67634.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.204.77] by web9604.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 16 May 2001 13:51:54 PDT Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:51:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Reinhardt Subject: Crazy-High Idling To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii After thoroughly cleaning my carbs and reinstalling them on my 89 CBR 600, I'm finding that the engine won't idle at less than 6000rpm! I thought it might be a snagged or too tight throttle cable, but it's not, as both cables are operating freely and there is play in the throttle. In my Clymers, it says to use the throttle stop screw to adjust the idle - doesn't say which way to turn it though. I fiddled with the screw setting this afternoon, and got the bike to rev steadily at 900rpm or so, but now it's back to revving ridicously high. This is with the choke on. With the choke off, the bike revs even higher at idle. Any ideas or suggestions? Thanks, Adam Reinhardt 89 CBR (running, but roughly) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 16:59:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9604.mail.yahoo.com (web9604.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.183]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4GKxVO22504 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 16:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010516205928.69586.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.204.77] by web9604.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 16 May 2001 13:59:28 PDT Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:59:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Reinhardt Subject: Shops/Waiting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Does anyone know of a good local (md/no. va/dc) shop without a really long backup for service? Myers in Kensington told me it would be a month or so before they would be able to take it in. I don't expect same-day service, but something along the lines of a week or two wait would be fine. Thanks, Adam 89 CBR __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 17:05:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4GL5kO22669 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 17:05:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from members.fcac.org (members.fcac.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4GL5fT10845; Wed, 16 May 2001 17:05:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:05:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: Adam Reinhardt cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Crazy-High Idling In-Reply-To: <20010516205154.67634.qmail@web9604.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It sounds like your bike is running way lean. Look for air leaks (air box, entering carb, did you have the exhaust off?). Kirk From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 17:15:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web9605.mail.yahoo.com (web9605.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.129.184]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4GLFgO22848 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 17:15:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010516211538.793.qmail@web9605.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [152.163.204.77] by web9605.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 16 May 2001 14:15:38 PDT Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Reinhardt Subject: Re: Crazy-High Idling To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Kirk Roy wrote: > It sounds like your bike is running way lean. Look > for air leaks (air > box, entering carb, did you have the exhaust off?). I pulled the air box so the air intakes in the carbs are pulling in unclogged air, but doesn't affect prob. Exhaust is on, in its normal position. Adam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 19:54:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp6ve.mailsrvcs.net (smtp6vepub.gte.net [206.46.170.27]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4GNs6O25534 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 19:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pltrgyst.tennisbooks.com (adsl-151-200-19-35.dc.adsl.bellatlantic.net [151.200.19.35]) by smtp6ve.mailsrvcs.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA21763994 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 23:58:45 GMT Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010516193540.00a92b90@mail.9netave.com> X-Sender: pop909184@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:53:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Larry Larson Subject: RE: Lane Splitting/Rant In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Well put, Saul. I go to Paris almost every year, and drive on the Peripherique, where most cars are travelling at about 80 mph, and bikes lane split regularly, and pretty safely. However, there is a much higher consciousness over there among both cagers and bikers. In contrast, about two months ago, my wife and I were driving up to Baltimore in the Miata, top up. We were travelling with the faster traffic, about 75, on the DC Beltway outer loop about three miles short of the BW Parkway when seven or eight sportbikes tore by, lane splitting at *well* over 100 mph with total disregard to their visibility to cagers. I damn near took one out myself, when he popped out from behind a truck I had just passed a moment after I had put my signal on to pull into the middle lane. Never saw him, never heard him until I had the wheel turned, and missed him by about six inches, if that. The assholes slowed and regrouped in the right lane about a quarter mile ahead of us, then took off again. This was obviously a group of guys who have very little regard for the fact that there are a substantial number of drivers out there who wouldn't mind the slightest little bit taking out one or two of them under those circumstances. -- Larry 2001 Aprilia Mille SL Falco 1984 Interceptor 500 (small emergency backup bike) 2001 Suzuki GS500 (dependable small emergency backup bike to the small emergency backup bike) At 10:01 AM 5/16/01, you wrote: >Aw jeez. Here we go again with the lane-splitting thread! First of all, >lane-splitting without frequent injuries (to bikers, mostly) demands >respect, consciousness, and driving skill from most cagers most of the time. >(Can we assume for the sake of argument that bikers are skilled enough?) >Second of all first of all will never, ever happen on American roads (with >the possible exception of parts of California at certain times on certain >days)! And never mind those anecdotal tales from other countries. We don't >really want our driving to be like most of theirs, fer shur. > >That being the case, these laws at least afford me a semblance of a modicum >of protection from cagers who still want to "share" my exit ramp when they >don't feel I am taking it fast enough in the rain in the dark or are talking >on their cell phones while carelessly passing me while still in my lane or >cutting me off on the way to their exit while writing in their dayplanners. >Sorry folks, but I'll take such laws for thier protection and wait and hope >for the day when we might consider thinking about allowing legal L/S. Until >then, I'll just operate as a full vehicle and expect to be respected as >such. > >Ah, but today I took the two-wheeled self-propelled thingie. Life is good, >indeed. > >Saul > >-----Original Message----- >From: Matthew Rosenstock [mailto:m_rosenstock@XXXXXX] >Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:16 PM >To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX >Subject: RE: Lane Splitting > > >I was in Paris last year and took a good picture of >lane splitting at a traffic light. All of the bikes >weaved to the front, then took off at green. I wonder >if a photo to the legislators would have any affect >whatsoever. Can't let the French do something better >than us 'mercans. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 21:30:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.141]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4H1UIO27165 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 21:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cj133739a ([24.15.184.123]) by femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010517013005.PBVO12893.femail14.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cj133739a> for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 18:30:05 -0700 Message-ID: <024f01c0de70$32b378e0$7bb80f18@reston1.va.home.com> From: "Keith Lamond" To: Subject: MSF course Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 21:25:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 First, thank you Matthew, Paul, and the other student and full instructors who taught the MSF course last weekend. You all must have been granted with infinite patience and a lot of courage to stand in a parking lot surounded by several new motorcycle riders. My original goals for taking the course was to support my wife, who was taking the course and has never ridden a motorcycle before, and try to lose some bad habits I've accumlated during the past 6 months of riding. I found the class useful in adding to my own riding skills, and it did indeed highlight one or two bad habits that needed to be dispelled. Several times I was told to keep my head up and look through the turn. I've already noticed in my day-to-day riding that the range exercises on sharp low speed turns and accellerating through a turn have increased my skills in these areas. If you haven't taken the class yet, I would recommend it. At worst, you get a discounted rate from your insurance company for completing the course. A special thanks to all the instructors for the time they spent with my wife Elizabeth. It was her first time riding a motorcycle, and she very nervous. Each of the instructors were very supportive in helping my wife to learn how to operate a motorcycle. Even though Elizabeth did not pass the MSF course, she left the course knowing the basics of riding a motorcycle. In fact during practice she was able to do all the exercises fine, but her nervousness when taking the test caused her to have problems on the road exam. With time to practice, (in an empty parking lot), and build up her confidence, she should be able to pass the exam next time she takes the class. Regards, Keith 84 Nighthawk S 84 Magna V30 (The wife's) Reston VA ----------------------------------------------------------- Check out my Band's website: http://www.chaotika.com From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 22:21:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gonzaga.blackboard.net (mail.blackboard.com [64.124.103.135]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4H2L2O27976 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by GONZAGA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:20:13 -0400 Message-ID: From: Maura Keaney To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Penalties for lane splitting? Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:13:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I've enjoyed lurking for a while on the list and this is my first time posting. I have no desire to re-ignite a lane splitting debate if it is a touchy subject, but I am curious if anyone on the list has actually ever been ticketed for lane splitting in DC, MD, or VA, and if so, what the penalty was. I have a...*friend*...who commutes from Northern Virginia to work in DC two or three days a week when the weather's fine, and this...*friend*...of mine has found that she can save quite a lot of time with some very conservative lane splitting (simply filtering slowly to the front when all other traffic has stopped at a red light.) So far, she's not had any problems with cagers or cops, but she'd appreciate perspective from anyone else who might also do some conservative filtering. Just curious. All the best, Maura 1990 Kawasaki Zephyr 550 (beloved first bike!) From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 22:30:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4H2UdO28135 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:30:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p50.a4.du.radix.net [207.192.130.178]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA14848; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:30:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Maura Keaney'" , Subject: RE: Penalties for lane splitting? Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:30:20 -0400 Message-ID: <001001c0de79$7312e0c0$b282c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Yet another lurker is outed... I've enjoyed lurking for a while on the list and this is my first time posting. Welcome. I have no desire to re-ignite a lane splitting debate if it is a touchy subject, but I am curious if anyone on the list has actually ever been ticketed for lane splitting in DC, MD, or VA, and if so, what the penalty was. Md state troopers & most VA cops don't like you to be able to do what they get away with. I've heard (a while ago, year or 2) that someone got a reckless in VA for that. It is a discretion charge. VA does state sharing lanes is a reckless violation, but you could also find yourself with too close to white line, unsignaled lane change, speed too great for conditions etc... Tough to pin it down. I have a...*friend* Suuuuuuuuure. Riiiiiiiiiight. ...who commutes from Northern Virginia to work in DC two or three days a week when the weather's fine, and this...*friend*...of mine has found that she can save quite a lot of time with some very conservative lane splitting (simply filtering slowly to the front when all other traffic has stopped at a red light.) just tell her to be judicious... So far, she's not had any problems with cagers or cops, but she'd appreciate perspective from anyone else who might also do some conservative filtering. All things in moderation... Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 22:34:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.abac.com (smtp2.abac.com [216.55.128.11]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4H2YGO28171 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apnHOFOJOKO ([38.38.169.164]) by smtp2.abac.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f4H2Xwd47162; Wed, 16 May 2001 19:33:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <001001c0de79$c0d3f7e0$a4a92626@apnHOFOJOKO> From: "Howard J. Koontz" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: Crazy-High Idling Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:33:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 <> I pulled the air box so the air intakes in the carbs are pulling in unclogged air, but doesn't affect prob. <<\Snip>> I think this is the problem he is referring to. I'm not completely sure, but don't you have to seal the airbox to make sure you're not getting too much air? If it's not sealed, you'll get a ton too much air and a lean condition. I sometimes have trouble diagnosing four-stroke problems, only having worked on old dirtbikes growing up, I let my four stroke problems get handled by pros. Finding pros who I trust as competent is my new hobby. Howard J. Koontz 2001 Harley Daidson FLHT Electra Glide Standard (soon!) 1972 Honda Z50AK3 Mini Trail Resto Project From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 22:46:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pop2.radix.net (pop2.radix.net [207.192.128.48]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4H2kTO28436 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Smurfslayer (p50.a4.du.radix.net [207.192.130.178]) by pop2.radix.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA19344; Wed, 16 May 2001 22:40:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Yates" To: "'Howard J. Koontz'" , , Cc: Subject: RE: Crazy-High Idling Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 22:40:30 -0400 Message-ID: <001301c0de7a$d3458960$b282c0cf@nih.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: <001001c0de79$c0d3f7e0$a4a92626@apnHOFOJOKO> Importance: Normal <> I pulled the air box so the air intakes in the carbs are pulling in unclogged air, but doesn't affect prob. <<\Snip>> I think this is the problem he is referring to. I'm not completely sure, but don't you have to seal the airbox to make sure you're not getting too much air? If it's not sealed, you'll get a ton too much air and a lean condition. Airbox not sealing won't cause a 6k rpm idle. Sounds like the carbs are sticking. Disassemble and verify the carb 'butterflies' actually are closing. Report back with results. Dave Yates '90 ZX11 'Acceleratus Maximus' '97 Cobra #5148 http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 16 23:38:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (garicao@[151.200.199.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4H3bxO29205 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 23:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id XAA23338; Wed, 16 May 1973 23:45:32 -0400 Date: Wed, 16 May 1973 23:45:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Garcia Oliver To: Maura Keaney cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Penalties for lane splitting? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I split lanes---stopped traffic only---all the time in DC (have seen mc cops doing same) without police attention so far. Problems with cagers are rare. YMMV. --garcia On Wed, 16 May 2001, Maura Keaney wrote: > I have a...*friend*...who commutes from Northern Virginia to work in DC two > or three days a week when the weather's fine, and this...*friend*...of mine > has found that she can save quite a lot of time with some very conservative > lane splitting (simply filtering slowly to the front when all other traffic > has stopped at a red light.) So far, she's not had any problems with cagers > or cops, but she'd appreciate perspective from anyone else who might also do > some conservative filtering. > > Just curious. > > All the best, > > Maura > > 1990 Kawasaki Zephyr 550 (beloved first bike!) > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 08:09:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web510.mail.yahoo.com (web510.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.225]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4HC9hO07995 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 08:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010517120941.26509.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.42.91] by web510.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 17 May 2001 05:09:41 PDT Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 05:09:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Penalties for lane splitting? To: Maura Keaney , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii that's "reckless driving" in virginia, punishable by up to 1 year in jail, plus the corresponding point deduction and insurance rate hike --- Maura Keaney wrote: > I have a...*friend*...who commutes from Northern Virginia > to work in DC two > or three days a week when the weather's fine, and > this...*friend*...of mine > has found that she can save quite a lot of time with some > very conservative > lane splitting (simply filtering slowly to the front when > all other traffic > has stopped at a red light.) So far, she's not had any > problems with cagers > or cops, but she'd appreciate perspective from anyone > else who might also do > some conservative filtering. ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 10:15:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fulcrum ([204.70.128.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HEF2O10281 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) id <0GDH00501GW68V@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.ie.cw.net ([204.70.128.53]) by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) with ESMTP id <0GDH0051CGW62M@XXXXXX>; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-gw.ie.cw.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:15:08 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:14:25 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: RE: Penalties for lane splitting and a mini-rant... To: "'Maura Keaney'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Message-id: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC68068062A@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" According to other posts here, the charge in Virginia is reckless driving. That's a pretty serious charge in VA - where they seem to take almost all traffic infractions A LOT more seriously then MD or DC. I know from personal experience that the fines are higher in VA, it's impossible for a judge to remove points from the charge (if he finds you guilty), and after a certain number of tickets in one year (in my case 3 - 2 for failure to obey a traffic device...) the state puts you on a 6 month probation - if you get a another ticket during that time you get suspended. Also, reckless driving frequently (in most cases without an attorney it seems) results in suspension here in VA - at least according to my attorney who represented me when I got mine. I know that 3 for 3 friends who all had CLEAN records and were charged with reckless due to speed all were suspended for 30 days here in Fairfax county. My rant is that every violation in VA seems to lead to reckless driving - 20 mph over the limit? Then you're reckless, going over 80? Automatically you're reckless again. Make more the 2 (it might be 3) traffic infractions at the same time - like a lane change without signal while speeding, it's reckless, lane splitting - that's reckless also. In the other state it seems that reckless driving is reserved for just that - and is rarely written due to the grave seriousness of the charge - here in VA it seems to be the catch all that is written all of the time. The part that bothers me is that it is still a very serious charge with potential for huge fines, JAIL TIME, and very frequent suspensions. In my case, since anything over 80 is an automatic reckless, coming back from Tennessee on 81 (which is 65mph posted) I was doing 83 in a rental car. I've spent a lot of time on 81, and 80-85 is the AVERAGE speed there - hell it's the average speed on the beltway or 66 during non-rush hour. Anyhow for my 18 miles an hour above the posted limit I was charged with reckless driving by a dickhead Virginia State Trooper. I'm sorry but the guy could have written me for 79 - I was polite, pulled over right away, and had all of my paperwork in order. I can say for certain as a former police officer in UT and SC, the money isn't going into the troopers pocket - and with the low threshold for reckless around here, they could cut some breaks while still writing a violation. Hope this helps, and sorry about the ranting :) -Calvin '00 VFR800 Interceptor '84 VF500F Interceptor -----Original Message----- From: Maura Keaney [mailto:mkeaney@XXXXXX] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:13 PM To: 'dc-cycles@XXXXXX' Subject: Penalties for lane splitting? I've enjoyed lurking for a while on the list and this is my first time posting. I have no desire to re-ignite a lane splitting debate if it is a touchy subject, but I am curious if anyone on the list has actually ever been ticketed for lane splitting in DC, MD, or VA, and if so, what the penalty was. I have a...*friend*...who commutes from Northern Virginia to work in DC two or three days a week when the weather's fine, and this...*friend*...of mine has found that she can save quite a lot of time with some very conservative lane splitting (simply filtering slowly to the front when all other traffic has stopped at a red light.) So far, she's not had any problems with cagers or cops, but she'd appreciate perspective from anyone else who might also do some conservative filtering. Just curious. All the best, Maura 1990 Kawasaki Zephyr 550 (beloved first bike!) From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 10:39:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nytrend.kenyonlaw.com ([63.125.186.131]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4HEdNO10601 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:39:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 172.22.20.23 by nytrend.kenyonlaw.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 17 May 2001 10:34:06 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Received: by ny4.kenyonlaw.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:33:07 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Neblett, Mark" To: "'ajreinhardt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Crazy-High Idling Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:36:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Any chance the cable sheath end (ferrule) is out of its socket, i.e., resting on the edge of the socket? That would hold the idle high, while still permitting smooth cable operation. Just a thought. Mark Neblett From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 11:01:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org (63-216-197-186.sdsl.cais.net [63.216.197.186]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HF0qO11042 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com ([209.249.185.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4HF0aI28224 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:00:36 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010517105013.0257dbf0@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:59:25 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: RE: Penalties for lane splitting and a mini-rant... In-Reply-To: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC68068062A@resie03.ie.cw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:14 AM 5/17/01, you wrote: >According to other posts here, the charge in Virginia is reckless driving. >That's a pretty serious charge in VA - where they seem to take almost all >traffic infractions A LOT more seriously then MD or DC. > I know that 3 for 3 friends who all had CLEAN records and >were charged with reckless due to speed all were suspended for 30 days here >in Fairfax county. I managed to evade anything other than a small fine with my reckless a few years ago (81 on 66) >My rant is that every violation in VA seems to lead to reckless driving >The part that bothers me >is that it is still a very serious charge with potential for huge fines, >JAIL TIME, and very frequent suspensions. It is a successful deterrent. I don't defend it, but it does make you think twice before going over 80 or +20. The kicker is that you could actually go to jail for a non-violent traffic offense. Ridiculous. Then again, drunk drivers should go to jail and they may not have been in an accident either. >In my case, since anything over >80 is an automatic reckless, coming back from Tennessee on 81 (which is >65mph posted) I was doing 83 in a rental car. I've spent a lot of time on >81, and 80-85 is the AVERAGE speed there - hell it's the average speed on >the beltway or 66 during non-rush hour. I believed that too - back when I got my ticket. 81 has always been high speed, but I have found in my last 10 trips down to TN that the average speed is actually around 72-75. The only people going 80+ are moving by at a pretty good clip in the left lane. When you can get around the big trucks that is. On 66, 80 is far from the norm or your speedo is off. Late night and mid-day 99% of the traffic is going 70. And the beltway...you are exactly correct! Surprising, but I get passed going 80 on 495 all the time. Yet I was ticketed on the bike one Sunday for doing 81. No reckless, he reduced the speed, but I was barely going faster than everyone around me. I would say this all relates to the media hysteria around ROAD RAGE, but VA has been like this since at least the mid 80s. Remember - back before ROAD RAGE had a catchy name? When it was just drivers pissed off at the incompetence of their fellow citizens? ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org Neckties can impair blood flow to the brain and interfere with clear thinking, alertness, and judgment. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 11:27:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (IDENT:root@XXXXXX [209.249.176.3]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HFRkO11572 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from patriot.net (pool181-26.patriot.net [209.249.181.26]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4HFPKq25632; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:25:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3B03EC03.1E59E1A8@patriot.net> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:19:31 -0400 From: "William J. Huson" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Neblett, Mark" CC: "'ajreinhardt@XXXXXX'" , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Re: Crazy-High Idling References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good point! I read the description of the prob and was thinking about an `71 Kawi I had. The right combo of throttle on when it went over a bump, like a speed bump, and wheeeeeee... Cable would jump outta the socket and the engine would be stuck on scream. Bill Neblett, Mark wrote: > Any chance the cable sheath end (ferrule) is out of its socket, i.e., > resting on the edge of the socket? That would hold the idle high, while > still permitting smooth cable operation. Just a thought. > > Mark Neblett From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 11:32:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailgate.dmz.netsec.net (firewall-i.netsec.net [209.117.173.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HFW9O11675 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.dmz.netsec.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8D755FF2 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:37:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:36:50 -0400 (EDT) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Another bikenight possibility Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been to Kilroy's a couple times now on Monday nights since they have all you can eat spare ribs (and they are delicious!!) but with all the TV's around the place and the provision for the separate dining room, we could easily do a 2wheel Tuesday sort of thing too. It's in the shopping center 100yrds from the 495 and Braddock road interchange. I talked to a couple of the staff and they'd be delighted since business is rather slow on Tuesday's (and esp. Monday's). All they need is a little notice and they can set the TV's on Speedvision and arrange the tables. The manager is named Kevin and you guys who coordiate bike nights can reach him at 703-321-7733. -- Network Security Technologies Inc. - Commercial support for OpenBSD www.netsec.net (703) 561-0420 matthew.patton@XXXXXX "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 11:34:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailgate.dmz.netsec.net (firewall-i.netsec.net [209.117.173.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HFYSO11694 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:34:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.dmz.netsec.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2C256011 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:39:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:39:11 -0400 (EDT) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: New Sheetz on US50 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII just 1 mile east of South Riding. Has the BEST fuel prices of anywhere in the Herndon/Chantily corridor (only northern Woodbridge can beat) and they have this nifty made to order food station which isn't half bad. $1.55 for 87, 1.65 for 89 and 1.7? for 93 octane if memory serves. -- Network Security Technologies Inc. - Commercial support for OpenBSD www.netsec.net (703) 561-0420 matthew.patton@XXXXXX "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 11:35:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HFZ7O11766 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:35:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.46]) id QQkpko15327 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:35:05 GMT Received: from [153.39.168.51] by imr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: macsupport10.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.168.51]) id QQkpko26922 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:34:37 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjordan@XXXXXX Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:34:35 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Top 10 Ways to do More Riding Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1222008820==_ma============" --============_-1222008820==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" From the Aerostich site 1. Commute. Keep a weather radio in your bathroom. Install an indoor/outdoor thermometer in the bedroom. Leave a cover or lock at your job's parking place. Carry a garage door opener or parking ramp card that's usable without dismounting. Arrange security in advance and be willing to pay for it. Once a week take a longer than necessary route to work. 2. Arrange your gear by the door or garage. Separate out your trip and camping stuff. Have your gloves and boots setup for selecting, depending on the days destination and weather conditions. 3. Get a smaller size motorcycle. Modern small bikes can do what old big ones did, easier cheaper and more fun to ride. Just like cars. 4. Ride in the rain. Go on purpose when nobody else is outdoors. Ride around for a look. If you get wet you won't drown. 5. Ride at night. If you don't have to get up for work the next morning there is nothing like enjoying a two am stop at a lonely all-night coffee shop, after a hundred miles of scary back roads. Full moons are best. Watch for deer and small animals. 6. Always have a way to haul stuff. Wear a Courier bag or backpack. Carry a bungee net, bungee buddy, an empty tank bag or some bungee cords. As a last resort, leave saddlebags on all the time. 7. Get a 'beater' motorcycle. Or make your bike into one. True beaters can be interesting and fun to ride and don't attract vandals or thiefs. TT500's, Ascot's, Sabres, Interceptors, Titans, GS's, /5's, etc... Like blue jeans, most cycles are better when they show some wear. (Too much bike polishing leads to idolatry. Moses shatters the original 10 commandments...) 8. Have two or three different helmets at the ready. An expensive full coverage one for serious rides and an easy to use open or hinged chinbar type for everyday urban riding or use on super-hot days. Having several types of gloves, boots, jackets, etc...for different situations is also good. 9. Plan rides. One Sunday a month do an all-day local ride or an overnight. Invent some game of it. In cities, try riding only alleys or only to overlooks or only across all the bridges. What is the longest continuous street in your city? Have you ever ridden it end to end? Put a marked map or list on the tankbag or in your pocket, and carry a compass. Out on the road, go to the smallest roads, to the small places. 10. Ride very early in the morning. Dawn rides can be the best hour of your day. No traffic, clean air, good sights and sensations. A shower and breakfast after a sunrise ride are wonderful. This is best done when the days are the longest in June and July. It does not apply if your bike has open pipes, especially if you ride an H2 with chambers. Then, stay in bed. 10. Philosophy bonus A: Ignore what everyone else thinks. Riding is a better way to get around. Ride paranoid and keep your skills sharp 10. Philosophy bonus B: Ride with somebody who's better than you. You will pick up a handy trick or new skill just about every time you are out. -- Sean Jordan Macintosh Systems Analyst (703)-886-7661 UUNET Technologies A WORLDCOM Company --============_-1222008820==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Top 10 Ways to do More Riding
From the Aerostich site

1. Commute. Keep a weather radio in your bathroom. Install an indoor/outdoor thermometer in the bedroom. Leave a cover or lock at your job's parking place. Carry a garage door opener or parking ramp card that's usable without dismounting. Arrange security in advance and be willing to pay for it. Once a week take a longer than necessary route to work.

2. Arrange your gear by the door or garage. Separate out your trip and camping stuff. Have your gloves and boots setup for selecting, depending on the days destination and weather conditions.

3. Get a smaller size motorcycle. Modern small bikes can do what old big ones did, easier cheaper and more fun to ride. Just like cars.

4. Ride in the rain. Go on purpose when nobody else is outdoors. Ride around for a look. If you get wet you won't drown.

5. Ride at night. If you don't have to get up for work the next morning there is nothing like enjoying a two am stop at a lonely all-night coffee shop, after a hundred miles of scary back roads. Full moons are best. Watch for deer and small animals.

6. Always have a way to haul stuff. Wear a Courier bag or backpack. Carry a bungee net, bungee buddy, an empty tank bag or some bungee cords. As a last resort, leave saddlebags on all the time.

7. Get a 'beater' motorcycle. Or make your bike into one. True beaters can be interesting and fun to ride and don't attract vandals or thiefs. TT500's, Ascot's, Sabres, Interceptors, Titans, GS's, /5's, etc... Like blue jeans, most cycles are better when they show some wear. (Too much bike polishing leads to idolatry. Moses shatters the original 10 commandments...)

8. Have two or three different helmets at the ready. An expensive full coverage one for serious rides and an easy to use open or hinged chinbar type for everyday urban riding or use on super-hot days. Having several types of gloves, boots, jackets, etc...for different situations is also good.

9. Plan rides. One Sunday a month do an all-day local ride or an overnight. Invent some game of it. In cities, try riding only alleys or only to overlooks or only across all the bridges. What is the longest continuous street in your city? Have you ever ridden it end to end? Put a marked map or list on the tankbag or in your pocket, and carry a compass. Out on the road, go to the smallest roads, to the small places.

10. Ride very early in the morning. Dawn rides can be the best hour of your day. No traffic, clean air, good sights and sensations. A shower and breakfast after a sunrise ride are wonderful. This is best done when the days are the longest in June and July. It does not apply if your bike has open pipes, especially if you ride an H2 with chambers. Then, stay in bed.

10. Philosophy bonus A: Ignore what everyone else thinks. Riding is a better way to get around. Ride paranoid and keep your skills sharp

10. Philosophy bonus B: Ride with somebody who's better than you. You will pick up a handy trick or new skill just about every time you are out.
 
--
Sean Jordan
Macintosh Systems Analyst
(703)-886-7661
UUNET Technologies
A WORLDCOM Company
--============_-1222008820==_ma============-- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 11:50:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pmesmtp02.wcom.com (pmesmtp02.wcom.com [199.249.20.2]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HFoRO12035 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp02.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.142]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #42257) with ESMTP id <0GDH003QYLAJKJ@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:49:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp02.wcomnet.com by dgismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42263) with SMTP id <0GDH00M01L9YPI@XXXXXX>; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:49:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.226]) by dgismtp02.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42263) with ESMTP id <0GDH00KLNL9UMF@XXXXXX>; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:49:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:48:14 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: New Sheetz on US50 To: matthew patton Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3B03F2BE.6B162875@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: matthew patton wrote: > > just 1 mile east of South Riding. Has the BEST fuel prices of anywhere in > the Herndon/Chantily corridor (only northern Woodbridge can beat) and they > have this nifty made to order food station which isn't half bad. $1.55 for > 87, 1.65 for 89 and 1.7? for 93 octane if memory serves. Cool! -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 11:51:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: from typhoon.pop3now.com ([209.208.170.227]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HFpqO12046 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:51:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:48:21 -0400 Message-Id: <200105171548.LAA27350@typhoon.pop3now.com> From: To: cledford@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Penalties for lane splitting and a mini-rant... > According to other posts here, the charge in Virginia is reckless driving. > That's a pretty serious charge in VA - where they seem to take almost all > traffic infractions A LOT more seriously then MD or DC. I know from > personal experience that the fines are higher in VA They need the money more. , ...(in most cases without an attorney it seems) results in > suspension here in VA - at least according to my attorney who represented me > when I got mine. I know that 3 for 3 friends who all had CLEAN records and > were charged with reckless due to speed all were suspended for 30 days here > in Fairfax county. Fairfax is a Kangaroo court. Best chance is at least 2 continuances, a lawyer and some really good preparation. Never rule out a plea with the prosecutor. They just want your money. Offer double the fine, for a non moving violation (improper equipment, etc.) that keeps the insurance companies off your back. > > My rant is that every violation in VA seems to lead to reckless driving - 20 > mph over the limit? Then you're reckless, going over 80? Automatically > you're reckless again. Make more the 2 (it might be 3) traffic infractions > at the same time - like a lane change without signal while speeding, it's > reckless, lane splitting - that's reckless also. In the other state it > seems that reckless driving is reserved for just that - and is rarely > written due to the grave seriousness of the charge - here in VA it seems to > be the catch all that is written all of the time. The part that bothers me > is that it is still a very serious charge with potential for huge fines, > JAIL TIME, and very frequent suspensions. Yes, but you'll notice that reckless in VA almost never results in a penalty that doesn't involve payment. They only want your money. I had a buddy that got his 3rd reckless, and only then did they talk jail time. Turns out that Fairfax has too many criminals incarcerated to start locking up speeders. He got off with a lawyer - get this 90 mph pass on an exit to get on the beltway - got a 10 day administrative suspension with 6 month administrative probation (no violations he's free) he made the 6 months, his insurance company never found out. In my case, since anything over > 80 is an automatic reckless, coming back from Tennessee on 81 (which is > 65mph posted) I was doing 83 in a rental car. I've spent a lot of time on > 81, and 80-85 is the AVERAGE speed there - hell it's the average speed on > the beltway or 66 during non-rush hour. Did you ask for an engineering study ? If an engineering study shows that traffic flows significantly faster, than the speed limit could be considered not in compliance with the manual of uniform traffic control devices as required by NHTSA. Anyhow for my 18 miles an hour > above the posted limit I was charged with reckless driving by a dickhead > Virginia State Trooper. I'm sorry but the guy could have written me for 79 > - I was polite, pulled over right away, and had all of my paperwork in > order. Did you ask for a warning, explaining that you were former LEO, clean record etc. ? Always ask for a warning. I can say for certain as a former police officer in UT and SC, the > money isn't going into the troopers pocket Knowing a Md state trooper I can say that you are right in that the troopers don't pocked the money, but the police agencies get a percentage of the traffic money, and they use traffic ticket stats to justify more money for more enforcement. I can also say that they're rated for promotion on how many tickets they write. It's not a quota system, it's an 'arrest rating system'. - and with the low threshold for > reckless around here, they could cut some breaks while still writing a > violation. Or, instead of letting all those unsolved murders, rapes, robberies & violent felonies unsolved, they could retask those highwaymen and actually solve some crimes... Think about this - They ALWAYS say it's about safety. IF it was about safety, then instead of money changing hands, violations would all involve jail time... Dave Yates. -- Protect your web site with secure hosting solutions from HostNYC! Security, Speed and Reliability starting as low as $14.95 per month Visit HostNYC today! http://www.pop3now.com/go/hostnyc/1000 Pop3Now Personal, Manage 5 Email Accounts From 1 Secure Window Sign Up Today! Visit http://www.pop3now.com/personal From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 13:12:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HHCVO13437 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-42-135.s135.tnt2.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.42.135] helo=palladio) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 150RK8-0007iZ-00 ; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:12:29 -0400 Message-ID: <019201c0def4$f7366ea0$bb82fea9@palladio> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Garcia Oliver" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: Subject: Re: Penalties for lane splitting? Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:13:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Ditto Garcia's comments. I'll add the additional caveat: don't do it in areas frequented by the Park Police and Capitol Police. They are more up tight about such things than the MPD. I don't even think about creative lane utilization in the 'burbs. Filtering is an accepted practice in DC, lane sharing at speed on 395 is not, although I've been tempted on occasion. I'm deterred not so much by the threat of a ticket but more by the fact that the cagers are not accustomed to bikes coming up beside them and a nasty "squish" could result. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F 91 CB750 (ex) http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Garcia Oliver > I split lanes---stopped traffic only---all the time in DC (have seen mc > cops doing same) without police attention so far. Problems with cagers > are rare. YMMV. > > --garcia > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 14:08:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mh1.dot.gov (mh1.dot.gov [152.119.25.210]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HI8eO14333 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:08:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdspxy01.dot.gov by mh1.dot.gov with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:07:57 -0400 Received: from rspa_exchange.rspa.dot.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by mdspxy01.dot.gov (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GDHRQD02.M2Y; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:08:37 -0400 Received: by rspa-exchange.rspa.dot.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:04:42 -0400 Message-Id: <748A54654C1FD5119B6100B0D049FCF13158D5@rspa-exchange.rspa.dot.gov> From: "Donald Burger" To: "'Paul Wilson'" , Garcia Oliver Cc: dc-cycles list Subject: RE: Penalties for lane splitting? Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:04:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain I've got to ditto Paul's comments about the Park Police, they can be the worst. One day last summer, when I was filtering to the front of a line of traffic on my BICYCLE, one of them pulled me over and ragged on me for not following the rules of the road. Something about if your going to ride your bicycle on the road, then you have to follow all of the same laws as everyone else. Don B > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Wilson [SMTP:pawilson@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 1:14 PM > To: Garcia Oliver > Cc: dc-cycles list > Subject: Re: Penalties for lane splitting? > > Ditto Garcia's comments. I'll add the additional caveat: don't do it in > areas frequented by the Park Police and Capitol Police. They are more up > tight about such things than the MPD. I don't even think about creative > lane utilization in the 'burbs. Filtering is an accepted practice in DC, > lane sharing at speed on 395 is not, although I've been tempted on > occasion. > I'm deterred not so much by the threat of a ticket but more by the fact > that > the cagers are not accustomed to bikes coming up beside them and a nasty > "squish" could result. > > Paul in DC > 95 VFR750F > 91 CB750 (ex) > http://users.erols.com/pawilson > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Garcia Oliver > > > I split lanes---stopped traffic only---all the time in DC (have seen mc > > cops doing same) without police attention so far. Problems with cagers > > are rare. YMMV. > > > > --garcia > > > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 14:15:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web511.mail.yahoo.com (web511.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.226]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4HIExO14453 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010517181415.25376.qmail@web511.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.9.247.2] by web511.mail.yahoo.com; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:14:15 PDT Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:14:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: Penalties for lane splitting? To: Donald Burger , "'Paul Wilson'" , Garcia Oliver Cc: dc-cycles list In-Reply-To: <748A54654C1FD5119B6100B0D049FCF13158D5@rspa-exchange.rspa.dot.gov> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i was hoping this topic would reappear.....it has been a while! what don has provided here is a perfect example of how these goddamn, silly lookin', lycra-laden, skinny-tired cyclists believe they own the friggin' road! :) --- Donald Burger wrote: > I've got to ditto Paul's comments about the Park Police, > they can be the > worst. One day last summer, when I was filtering to the > front of a line of > traffic on my BICYCLE, one of them pulled me over and > ragged on me for not > following the rules of the road. Something about if your > going to ride your > bicycle on the road, then you have to follow all of the > same laws as everyone else. ===== tg check out www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 14:24:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mh1.dot.gov (mh1.dot.gov [152.119.25.210]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HIObO14614 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:24:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mdspxy02.dot.gov by mh1.dot.gov with ESMTP for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:23:55 -0400 Received: from rspa_exchange.rspa.dot.gov ([127.0.0.1]) by mdspxy02.dot.gov (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GDHSGZ01.QAF; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:24:35 -0400 Received: by rspa-exchange.rspa.dot.gov with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:20:40 -0400 Message-Id: <748A54654C1FD5119B6100B0D049FCF13158D6@rspa-exchange.rspa.dot.gov> From: "Donald Burger" To: "'Tom Gimer'" Cc: dc-cycles list Subject: RE: Penalties for lane splitting? Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:20:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain How do you know I was a godddamn, silly lookin', lycra-laden, skinny-tired cyclist (although I was). I could have been an earthy-crunchy, grungy, tree-huggin', granola eatin', fat-tire mountain-bike riding cyclist thinking I owned the road. Switching to a new topic - with the amount of taxes I pay, I think I should own some of the road, I just figure its the part directly under my wheels. Don B > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Gimer [SMTP:t_gimer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 2:14 PM > To: Donald Burger; 'Paul Wilson'; Garcia Oliver > Cc: dc-cycles list > Subject: RE: Penalties for lane splitting? > > i was hoping this topic would reappear.....it has been a > while! > > what don has provided here is a perfect example of how > these goddamn, silly lookin', lycra-laden, skinny-tired > cyclists believe they own the friggin' road! :) > > > > --- Donald Burger wrote: > > I've got to ditto Paul's comments about the Park Police, > > they can be the > > worst. One day last summer, when I was filtering to the > > front of a line of > > traffic on my BICYCLE, one of them pulled me over and > > ragged on me for not > > following the rules of the road. Something about if your > > going to ride your > > bicycle on the road, then you have to follow all of the > > same laws as everyone else. > > ===== > tg > > check out www.murphygimer.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 15:30:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HJUiO15800 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:30:27 -0400 Message-ID: <776B2ABC9364D411867B009027B69A2F0161312B@DCHQCLEXHQ> From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCycles'" Subject: Lane Splitting/Rant Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:31:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Good points. I think the Dominican Republic system addresses the first point but doubt if the MD Assembly would adopt it. "First of all, lane-splitting without frequent injuries (to bikers, mostly) demands respect, consciousness, and driving skill from most cagers most of the time. " In the DR driving at first seems chaotic. Cars will be 5 lanes abreast going into a 2 lane bridge. There's no honking, bumping, raging. If you get a bumper up on someone, they back off -- maybe they'll be first next time. Stop signs are "suggestions" drivers on thru streets bleep their horns to warn potential stop sign runners. Everything on two wheels lane splits. Tis the opposite of driving in Germany. Thus, the drivers are both skilled and laid back. Dumbasses and the uptight have been killed off early in their driving experience. Europe addresses the second point. But would restrict our freedom to maim by vehicles too much. "Second of all first of all will never, ever happen on American roads (with the possible exception of parts of California at certain times on certain days)! And never mind those anecdotal tales from other countries. We don't really want our driving to be like most of theirs, fer shur." Pretending you left the smiley by mistake: In Germany, The Netherlands, Italy, and Spain drivers are very courteous. Little to no left lane hogging. Lane splitting is common in Spain. Plus to get a license in Europe is a big deal. It isn't a simple process as here in the U.S. you have to be competent on the road -- not just in a parking lot. There is worse driving than in other countries. It's called the DC metro area. =8^O Too many dumbasses, too many type A's, Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 15:49:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: from nceaexchange.ncea.org (smtp.ncea.org [64.242.194.132]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HJnuO16091 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NCEAEXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:49:25 -0400 Message-ID: <79B36BCD74CDD411AE4000508B55FC5F20E4C0@NCEAEXCHANGE> From: Cedric Bernescut To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: List Kudos Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:49:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just popping up to say thanks to everyone on the list who responded to my chain query last week. This list is an embarrassment of riches with all the help people are willing to provide, especially Chris, Matthew, Paul, Linda, John and anyone else I may have omitted. I took advantage of the first offer and I went over to Chris's and borrowed his chain breaker tool. With his patient instruction I was able to operate the tool correctly and I was able to change my first set of sprockets and chain. It took a lot of sweat, muscle, and a bit of flesh (did you know it's possible to spin the rear wheel in a complete 360 with you finger caught between the sprocket and chain?). The chain ended up being cut for a different bike and I had to cut an additional link off (twice!) and add a steady supply of colorful metaphors before I got everything to fit. It's great to know that certain tasks no longer automatically mean a trip to the dealer. Thanks again to all who helped. Cedric Bernescut P.S. Welcome to all the new Listers and a get well note to Danny. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 16:31:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net (cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.38]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HKVCO16908 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 16:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr3.ash.ops.us.uu.net by cmr0.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: imr3.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.47]) id QQkpli14941; Thu, 17 May 2001 20:31:10 GMT Received: from [153.39.168.51] by imr3.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP (peer crosschecked as: macsupport10.corp.us.uu.net [153.39.168.51]) id QQkpli20443; Thu, 17 May 2001 20:30:32 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjordan@XXXXXX Message-Id: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:30:26 -0400 To: race@XXXXXX, FZR400@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Sean Jordan Subject: Motorcyclist clocked going 160 m.p.h. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/metro/chicago/article/0,2669,1-0105170278,FF.html -- "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of death and the skillful defiance of it." -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) Sean Jordan Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 17:27:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r15.mx.aol.com (imo-r15.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.69]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HLRaO17833 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:27:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-r15.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.b2.15b3d354 (7401) for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:27:26 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:27:24 EDT Subject: Re: Shops/Waiting To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 5/16/2001 5:00:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ajreinhardt@XXXXXX writes: > I don't expect same-day service, And why not? There is just no excuse for this kind of wait, other that dealers who refuse to hire or will not pay mechanics what they are worth. My local dealer when I started riding had 3 salespeople and _17_ mechanics! And still has about that ratio, unfourtunatly that dealer is in FL. Stop buying bikes, Stop buying parts, Stop buying accessories from these asses, and LET THEM KNOW WHY! I'll get off my soapbox now. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 17:41:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-m08.mx.aol.com (imo-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.163]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HLfrO18021 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.92.14c0e4d9 (7401) for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:41:43 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <92.14c0e4d9.28359f97@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:41:43 EDT Subject: Re: MSF course To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 5/16/2001 9:33:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, keithl1349@XXXXXX writes: > In fact during practice she was > able to do all the exercises fine, but her nervousness when taking the test > caused her to have problems on the road exam. Just keep in mind, if the test made her nervous what do you think all those cages will do? The real test in motorcycling is not on the range, but out there with all of the idiots. I used to have trouble failing students (I'm an instructor.) untill my wife pointed that small detail out to me. Just be sure that SHE (Not just you.) is ready before heading out there. John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 18:03:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from imo-r20.mx.aol.com (imo-r20.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.162]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4HM3VO18417 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 18:03:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PenguinBiker@XXXXXX by imo-r20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.10.) id 2.43.1544c15c (7401) for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 18:03:19 -0400 (EDT) From: PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Message-ID: <43.1544c15c.2835a4a7@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:03:19 EDT Subject: Re: List Kudos To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 In a message dated 5/17/2001 3:54:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bernescut@XXXXXX writes: > (did you know it's possible to spin the rear > wheel in a complete 360 with you finger caught between the sprocket and > chain?). I have a friend who has a short thumb as a result of just such an experiment! John Walters (Long John) PenguinBiker@XXXXXX Up near DC Honda ST1100X Pan European (The Pan European is pretentious I know, but I like it.) BMW R80RT 200,000+ miles Honda 1976 CR250M Motowhat racer From dc-cycles-request Thu May 17 23:56:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4I3usO23852 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 23:56:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-3-226.s988.apx1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.3.226]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 150bNj-0002dO-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Thu, 17 May 2001 23:56:52 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: A Gentle Reminder from MC's Finest Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 00:02:49 -0700 Message-ID: References: <000c01c0d9b2$6d10d680$bc81c0cf@nih.gov> <3AFB361B.B9EF3588@patriot.net> In-Reply-To: <3AFB361B.B9EF3588@patriot.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4I3v7O23853 |>Dunno what the deal was, but you never break a convoy. Especially one where |>the convoyers are all packing guns! Also try not to pass cops period. Some take it as a sign of disrespect. On the other hand, behind them, out of sight out of mind maybe? in front of them they could look at you and go "hmm I'd like to meet that person " :) or "hmm I wonder if he'd run"... or "hmm i want to see that bike up close and ask questions about it" and that's not good if you're trying to be on tiime, or if you've got an a$$h0le personality that WILL get you a ticket hehe. I try to give cops head nods though.. like it was said, a lot of them ride.. and even if they don't.. it's better to be on friendly terms with them. Danny From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 00:13:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4I4DwO24154 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 00:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-3-226.s988.apx1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.3.226]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 150beG-00043I-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 18 May 2001 00:13:57 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Lane Splitting & eorpean driving Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 00:19:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC68068061C@resie03.ie.cw.net> In-Reply-To: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC68068061C@resie03.ie.cw.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4I4E0O24155 speaking of european driving laws... oh how I wish the left lane was passing only... There is nothing worse than coming up to 3 or 4 cars side by side on a highway looking like dolts riding along... with no escape route incase soemthing were to happen.. on top fo that, the rest of the highway is empty... so they're effectively serving as a gate to slow people down... I think the right lane should be a merge only lane as well... older persons could ride in the 2nd to right lane.. faster cruisers could ride in the 2nd to left lane and the left lane could be passing... it'd be nice to have an autoban too. (your not forced to drive it if you don't like it!) I would make slowing down to look at an accident illegal too... atleast maintain your speed as you look..sheesh.. nothing worse than to see cars slowing down being nosey as they look over on the shoulder at crashed up cars, and a whole empty highway ahead of them.. and a whole croweded highway behind them. Danny we REALLY REALLY need a change in traffic laws From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 00:17:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4I4HtO24251 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 00:17:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-3-226.s988.apx1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.3.226]) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 150bi6-0004JP-00 ; Fri, 18 May 2001 00:17:54 -0400 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX Cc: "Han Park" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer - home tire changing 101 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 00:23:51 -0700 Message-ID: References: <10e501c0d4ac$ad6bf210$c90d0a0a@answerlogic.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4I4HuO24252 oh yea one more thing... when you are inflating the tire.. keep your fingers away from the rim.. if the bead seats while your fingers are in there, you are in for a lot of pain... i don't know from experience, but hte way the tire pops, i imagine it would be very very very very painful. Danny From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 06:37:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: from rmx614-mta.mail.com (rmx614-mta.mail.com [165.251.48.52]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IAbsO01048 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 06:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web425-wra (web425-wra.mail.com [165.251.33.75]) by rmx614-mta.mail.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA16044; Fri, 18 May 2001 06:37:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <385266384.990182268323.JavaMail.root@web425-wra> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 06:37:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "T.B.G" To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX, daniel_ex250@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer - home tire changing 101 CC: Han Park , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 128.183.71.24 I just ordered the H.F. motorcycle Tire changer, does anyone have experience with this unit? It had not come in yet, still on back order till the mid of next month. I am eagerly awaiting it. Thad ------Original Message------ From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX Sent: May 18, 2001 7:23:51 AM GMT Subject: Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer - home tire changing 101 oh yea one more thing... when you are inflating the tire.. keep your fingers away from the rim.. if the bead seats while your fingers are in there, you are in for a lot of pain... i don't know from experience, but hte way the tire pops, i imagine it would be very very very very painful. Danny From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 08:12:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web11201.mail.yahoo.com (web11201.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.171]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ICCkO02458 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518121243.93366.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.71.174.14] by web11201.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 05:12:43 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 05:12:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Rosenstock Subject: Re: Motorcyclist clocked going 160 m.p.h. To: Sean Jordan , race@XXXXXX, FZR400@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow. What's a Honda 600 FX? --- Sean Jordan wrote: > http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/metro/chicago/article/0,2669,1-0105170278,FF.html > > -- > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of > death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 08:22:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web512.mail.yahoo.com (web512.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.227]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ICM8O02640 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:22:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518122206.14312.qmail@web512.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.42.91] by web512.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 05:22:06 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 05:22:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Harbor Freight Tire Changer - home tire changing 101 To: "T.B.G" , daniel_ex250@XXXXXX Cc: Han Park , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <385266384.990182268323.JavaMail.root@web425-wra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i thought there was a post to the effect that it was a) junk, and b) incomplete good tire changers cost $400-500+ --- "T.B.G" wrote: > I just ordered the H.F. motorcycle Tire changer, does > anyone have experience > with this unit? It had not come in yet, still on back > order till the mid of > next month. I am eagerly awaiting it. ===== tg check out http://www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 08:28:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web510.mail.yahoo.com (web510.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.225]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4ICS8O02745 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:28:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518122806.24909.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [138.88.42.91] by web510.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 05:28:06 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 05:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Motorcyclist clocked going 160 m.p.h. To: Matthew Rosenstock , Sean Jordan , race@XXXXXX, FZR400@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010518121243.93366.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii my bet is that it was an f4 or f4i. never accept the everyday media's characterization of anything motorcycle-related. what a dumbass though....if you're gonna do 160, you don't turn around and run the same stretch of road. sheesh. --- Matthew Rosenstock wrote: > Wow. What's a Honda 600 FX? > > > --- Sean Jordan wrote: > > > http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/metro/chicago/article/0,2669,1-0105170278,FF.html ===== tg check out http://www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 08:37:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: from webmailmta.go.com ([204.202.140.199]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4ICbGO02917 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:37:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gomailjtp04 ([10.212.0.164]) by mta07.seamail.go.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.10.12.16.25.p8) with ESMTP id <0GDJ00EFX6ZPMH@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 18 May 2001 05:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 05:35:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Subject: Lane splitting / penalties To: mkeaney@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <2662809.990189350865.JavaMail.Arlington22201@gomailjtp04> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: GoMail 3.0.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Maura, I too have a *friend* who finds it stupid to sit in traffic at 50 before the bottleneck to the Roosevelt bridge when a little lane splitting could save him time . . . hence why I looked up the MD and VA statutes. Neither prescribed a penalty (e.g., points, fine, etc.). I assume that's done in some administrative regs I can't find. But, the VA statute did classify lane-splitting as "reckless driving." I would think the penalty for that could be more than a fine and points. Anyway, I'm going to tell my friend to back off a little bit on lane-splitting. (Maybe he will sill do it in DC, though, which doesn't have an official statute that I could find. Besides, have you _ever_ seen anyone pulled over for a traffic violation in DC?). Aaron ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 09:31:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org (63-216-197-186.sdsl.cais.net [63.216.197.186]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IDVFO03754 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:31:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com ([209.249.185.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4IDV3I02391 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:31:03 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010518092825.02b23150@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:29:15 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Motorcyclist clocked going 160 m.p.h. In-Reply-To: <20010518122806.24909.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010518121243.93366.qmail@web11201.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Another article I read said that it was in fact a CBR 600 F4. At 08:28 AM 5/18/01, Tom Gimer wrote: >my bet is that it was an f4 or f4i. never accept the >everyday media's characterization of anything >motorcycle-related. > >what a dumbass though....if you're gonna do 160, you don't >turn around and run the same stretch of road. sheesh. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org Neckties can impair blood flow to the brain and interfere with clear thinking, alertness, and judgment. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 09:37:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from pimout1-int.prodigy.net (pimout1-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.77]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IDbQO03858 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web192-wra (web192-wra.mail.com [165.251.33.137]) by pimout1-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f4IDbDu190958 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:37:14 -0400 Message-ID: <382173073.990193033839.JavaMail.root@web192-wra> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:37:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "T.B.G" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Motorcyclist clocked-on CBR600FX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 128.183.71.24 The CBR600FX is the UK verson of the CBR600 Photo http://www.motorradhandel.ch/bild.cfm?id=42927 Thad ------Original Message------ From: Matthew Rosenstock To: Sean Jordan , race@XXXXXX, FZR400@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sent: May 18, 2001 12:12:43 PM GMT Subject: Re: Motorcyclist clocked going 160 m.p.h. Wow. What's a Honda 600 FX? --- Sean Jordan wrote: > http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/metro/chicago/article/0,2669,1-0105170278,FF.html > > -- > "For man, maximum excitement is the confrontation of > death and the > skillful defiance of it." > > -Ernest Becker (1924-1974) > > Sean Jordan > Jordan Racing / DC-Cycles Racing > '93 Honda CBR1000F (Street) > '90 Yamaha FZR400 (Race) > WERA #230 / CCS #778 / MARRC member #3038 > http://www.angelfire.com/mac/eternity23/jordanracing.html > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 10:26:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IEQSO04769 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-49-60.s314.tnt5.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.49.60] helo=palladio) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 150lD0-00001C-00 ; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:26:27 -0400 Message-ID: <017101c0dfa6$f066ad80$bb82fea9@palladio> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Tom Gimer" , "dc-cycles list" References: <20010518122806.24909.qmail@web510.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Motorcyclist clocked going 160 m.p.h. Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:26:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 For those of you unfamiliar with the area (I lived in Chicago for two years) Lake Shore Drive (LSD) is a favorite rocket run for the local speed junkies. After years of complaints from the well-heeled apartment dwellers along the Drive who have their summer slumber disrupted by wide-open throttles and free-flowing pipes, it sounds like the CPD are finally cracking down. A few years back Hizzoner Da Mare Richard M Daley tried to ban MCs altogether from LSD. Turns out it's a federal highway (US 41) so that was a non starter and then the Illinois legislature passed a law prohibiting local MC bans. Illinois is a helmet optional state so I guess our rocketeer gets points for wearing a helmet. Paul in DC 95 VFR750F 91 CB750 (ex) http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Gimer > my bet is that it was an f4 or f4i. never accept the > everyday media's characterization of anything > motorcycle-related. > > what a dumbass though....if you're gonna do 160, you don't > turn around and run the same stretch of road. sheesh. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 10:54:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: from hotmail.com (oe13.law6.hotmail.com [216.32.240.117]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IEsCO05282 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:54:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 18 May 2001 07:42:54 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [63.123.104.125] Reply-To: "Genna Melamed" From: "Genna Melamed" To: "Maura Keaney" , References: Subject: Re: Penalties for lane splitting? Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:40:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2001 14:42:54.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[D2881F90:01C0DFA8] I've been pulled over twice for that, no ticket though Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX www.erols.com/genna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maura Keaney" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: Penalties for lane splitting? > I've enjoyed lurking for a while on the list and this is my first time > posting. I have no desire to re-ignite a lane splitting debate if it is a > touchy subject, but I am curious if anyone on the list has actually ever > been ticketed for lane splitting in DC, MD, or VA, and if so, what the > penalty was. > > I have a...*friend*...who commutes from Northern Virginia to work in DC two > or three days a week when the weather's fine, and this...*friend*...of mine > has found that she can save quite a lot of time with some very conservative > lane splitting (simply filtering slowly to the front when all other traffic > has stopped at a red light.) So far, she's not had any problems with cagers > or cops, but she'd appreciate perspective from anyone else who might also do > some conservative filtering. > > Just curious. > > All the best, > > Maura > > 1990 Kawasaki Zephyr 550 (beloved first bike!) > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 11:22:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web1803.mail.yahoo.com (web1803.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.23.46]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IFMQO05843 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:22:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 21973 invoked by uid 60001); 18 May 2001 15:22:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20010518152223.21972.qmail@web1803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [199.244.214.59] by web1803.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:22:23 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:22:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Mary Canterbury Subject: Newbie Looking for Bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I took the MFS course a couple weeks ago and want to pursue riding which means practice, practice, pratice. I have been given a lot of advice to buy a used bike first(<10 yrs.old, not too much power, etc.). I'm looking for more advice on where to look for such a bike and possibly more suggestions on what kind of bike. TIA, -->m. ===== "It was too much tequila, or not quite enough." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 11:23:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14204.mail.yahoo.com (web14204.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.146]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IFNkO05853 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:23:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518152344.2641.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [205.216.101.214] by web14204.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:23:44 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 08:23:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Dmitri Pappa Subject: MSF courses - Is the Gov't trying to discourage riders? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Because I'm getting pretty depressed.. Last year I wanted to get a bike, but people said hold out until spring to take the MSF class. So I call MVA and find out you can't register until Feb.20th. So I wait a few months, and call the first day (morning) they're open. Line is busy. Try twice more that day, still busy. So I figure standby has to be pretty easy (someone here said they got in 2nd attempt). Took off work at 3pm. Gaithersburg has 8 seats. There were 3 spots, and 11 trying for those spots. Didn't get in. Didn't get in on week 2 either. I also tried PG county (40 seats). Same deal. Either totally full, or didn't make the rotation. So what's the deal? Can't get registered, can't get in on standby. At every MSF I've been to, there is between 150% and 200% capacity that they're reserved for. Do they just not want new people riding bikes? What's the alternative to MSF? Can I get a "learners" license in MD, enough so I can take the driven course? I just hope I don't get creamed out on the street. :( -Dmitri __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 11:37:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gecko.troutman.org (63-216-197-186.sdsl.cais.net [63.216.197.186]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IFbkO06101 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vulture.wheatintl.com ([209.249.185.69]) by gecko.troutman.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4IFbYI02802 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:37:35 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010518113402.027c2460@mail.troutman.org> X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:36:10 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Troutman Subject: Re: Newbie Looking for Bike In-Reply-To: <20010518152223.21972.qmail@web1803.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:22 AM 5/18/01, Mary Canterbury wrote: >"It was too much tequila, or not quite enough." Anything for a Parrot Head! WashPost Classifieds are a great place to start. That - and Cycle Trader. What kind of bike depends a lot on you and what you like. Cruiser? Sportbike? Touring? Standard? Pick one fiirst, then we can narrow it down. First bikes are best to have very little plastic and a smaller displacement, but most any bike can make a good first bike if it is treated with respect. ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org/vfr '97 Honda VFR 750 Member : AMA ~=~ NMA ~=~ NRA It is a weak mind that can think of only one way to spell a word. - Mark Twain From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 11:43:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h017.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.181]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IFhLO06204 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:43:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (cpmta 15493 invoked from network); 18 May 2001 08:43:11 -0700 Received: from w156.z216112246.was-dc.dsl.cnc.net (HELO laura) (216.112.246.156) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.181) with SMTP; 18 May 2001 08:43:11 -0700 X-Sent: 18 May 2001 15:43:11 GMT Message-ID: <011301c0dfb1$6c45e7e0$9cf670d8@dccracing.org> From: "Laura Granato" To: "Mary Canterbury" , References: <20010518152223.21972.qmail@web1803.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Newbie Looking for Bike Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:44:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 my suggestion to you is a 500cc bike. I bought a GS500 as my first bike and still have it. It is plenty of power for the street, a great bike to learn on because it handles drops *extremely* well, it has a short seat height which makes you feel more comfortable riding and stopping, and if you do something stupid (which all newbies will do at one time) there's not enough power to hurt you. I will keep my GS for a while because it is such a great bike. The most important thing to think about when buying a new bike is that you want to be comfortable on it. If you're not comfortable, it makes your learning curve much steeper. some people will recommend a 250. Yes, it's a great bike to learn on, but once you get comfortable riding, you may find yourself wanting slightly more power. A 500cc bike is perfect for beginning. :-) Hope that helps. Laura '99 suzuki GS500 street '00 Aprilia RS250 race amateur #869 www.dccycles.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Canterbury To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:22 AM Subject: Newbie Looking for Bike > I took the MFS course a couple weeks ago and want to > pursue riding which means practice, practice, pratice. > > I have been given a lot of advice to buy a used bike > first(<10 yrs.old, not too much power, etc.). I'm > looking for more advice on where to look for such a > bike and possibly more suggestions on what kind of > bike. > > TIA, > -->m. > > > > > > ===== > "It was too much tequila, or not quite enough." > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 11:43:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: from gonzaga.blackboard.net (mail.blackboard.com [64.124.103.135]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IFhUO06207 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by GONZAGA with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:42:33 -0400 Message-ID: From: Maura Keaney To: "'Genna Melamed '" , Maura Keaney , "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX '" Subject: RE: Penalties for lane splitting? Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:35:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Really? In what jurisdiction were you pulled over? Under what conditions were you lane splitting? Very curious! :) Maura -----Original Message----- From: Genna Melamed To: Maura Keaney; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Sent: 5/17/01 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Penalties for lane splitting? I've been pulled over twice for that, no ticket though Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX www.erols.com/genna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maura Keaney" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:13 PM Subject: Penalties for lane splitting? > I've enjoyed lurking for a while on the list and this is my first time > posting. I have no desire to re-ignite a lane splitting debate if it is a > touchy subject, but I am curious if anyone on the list has actually ever > been ticketed for lane splitting in DC, MD, or VA, and if so, what the > penalty was. > > I have a...*friend*...who commutes from Northern Virginia to work in DC two > or three days a week when the weather's fine, and this...*friend*...of mine > has found that she can save quite a lot of time with some very conservative > lane splitting (simply filtering slowly to the front when all other traffic > has stopped at a red light.) So far, she's not had any problems with cagers > or cops, but she'd appreciate perspective from anyone else who might also do > some conservative filtering. > > Just curious. > > All the best, > > Maura > > 1990 Kawasaki Zephyr 550 (beloved first bike!) > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 11:48:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: from dgesmtp01.wcom.com (dgesmtp01.wcom.com [199.249.16.16]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IFmnO06323 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com ([166.38.58.141]) by firewall.mcit.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42260) with ESMTP id <0GDJ003JHFUYX3@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:47:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dgismtp01.wcomnet.com by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with SMTP id <0GDJ00M01FUSQN@XXXXXX>; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:47:22 +0000 (GMT) Received: from home.com ([166.36.152.226]) by dgismtp01.wcomnet.com (PMDF V5.2-33 #42262) with ESMTP id <0GDJ00IH6FUJKN@XXXXXX>; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:47:08 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:46:15 -0400 From: Dale Horstman Subject: Re: Newbie Looking for Bike To: Mary Canterbury Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <3B0543C7.5D95B514@home.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <20010518152223.21972.qmail@web1803.mail.yahoo.com> Mary Canterbury wrote: > > I took the MFS course a couple weeks ago and want to > pursue riding which means practice, practice, pratice. > > I have been given a lot of advice to buy a used bike > first(<10 yrs.old, not too much power, etc.). It's great advice, I strongly recommend it. Even if you only keep the starter bike around for 6 months, you'll be much better off, and be a much better rider when you get your dream bike. There's nothing scarier than seeing a wobbly rider on a 'Busa. :) > I'm looking for more advice on where to look for such a > bike and possibly more suggestions on what kind of > bike. A standard UJM, or maybe a cruiser, without a lot of plastic would be a good bet. Less stuff to break if it falls over. Nighthawk 250, Shadow 500, Suzuki GS500, any Honda CB, Kawasaki KZ, or Suzuki GS. I like surfing these sites for cheap bikes. http://www.cycletrader.com/ http://www.classifieds2000.com http://search1.washingtonpost.com:80?_v.7=810/ Good luck. You can find some pretty good deals out there. Horkster (started on a 1976 KZ400, about 5 years ago) -- Mandatory second line (CM tm) Dale Horstman - the.horkster@XXXXXX AWSHIDT #322 - 9 of 99 done. Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth '98 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer '99 Kawasaki Concours - Grape Nehi '82 Suzuki GS850G - work in progress From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 12:00:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IG0fO06565 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:00:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Info: This message was accepted for relay by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net as the sender used SMTP authentication X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVY19ME7xXAH63e2BAFo4CAWslWpdRoDNMXYwiqKwGZMwAOfjbsqYb9U Received: from [63.123.104.125] (helo=gennapc) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with asmtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 150mgB-0000sK-00 ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:00:39 -0400 Message-ID: <021701c0dfb3$af62c640$7d687b3f@gennapc> Reply-To: "Genna Melamed" From: "Genna Melamed" To: "Maura Keaney" , References: Subject: Re: Penalties for lane splitting? Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:00:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Once, about 4 years ago it was in Montgomery Co. on University Ave. It was really cold ~40F and I was about 2 min from my house. I filtered at the traffic light about 3-4 cars. Cop pulled me over at the next light. Gave me warning, I had to stay there in cold for good 20 min though. And similar thing happen about a week ago, in Baltimore Co. Also cold, also warning. I do this relatively often. At red lights in stopped traffic. Genna Melamed genna@XXXXXX www.erols.com/genna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maura Keaney" To: "'Genna Melamed '" ; "Maura Keaney" ; Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 11:35 AM Subject: RE: Penalties for lane splitting? > Really? In what jurisdiction were you pulled over? Under what conditions > were you lane splitting? > > Very curious! > > :) Maura > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Genna Melamed > To: Maura Keaney; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Sent: 5/17/01 4:40 PM > Subject: Re: Penalties for lane splitting? > > I've been pulled over twice for that, no ticket though > > > Genna Melamed > genna@XXXXXX > www.erols.com/genna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maura Keaney" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 10:13 PM > Subject: Penalties for lane splitting? > > > > I've enjoyed lurking for a while on the list and this is my first time > > posting. I have no desire to re-ignite a lane splitting debate if it > is a > > touchy subject, but I am curious if anyone on the list has actually > ever > > been ticketed for lane splitting in DC, MD, or VA, and if so, what the > > penalty was. > > > > I have a...*friend*...who commutes from Northern Virginia to work in > DC > two > > or three days a week when the weather's fine, and this...*friend*...of > mine > > has found that she can save quite a lot of time with some very > conservative > > lane splitting (simply filtering slowly to the front when all other > traffic > > has stopped at a red light.) So far, she's not had any problems with > cagers > > or cops, but she'd appreciate perspective from anyone else who might > also > do > > some conservative filtering. > > > > Just curious. > > > > All the best, > > > > Maura > > > > 1990 Kawasaki Zephyr 550 (beloved first bike!) > > > > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 12:16:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IGG0O06845 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-51-134.s388.tnt6.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.51.134] helo=palladio) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 150muv-0004US-00 ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:15:54 -0400 Message-ID: <005501c0dfb6$3aac82c0$bb82fea9@palladio> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Dmitri Pappa" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <20010518152344.2641.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: MSF courses - Is the Gov't trying to discourage riders? Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:15:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Does MD have reciprocity with another state? Unfortunately VA and MD do not have reciprocal agreements. You might also try taking the course in a more rural part of the state, western Md., Eastern Shore, etc. Unfortunately Md. does seem to encourage people to ride unlicensed, to answer the question in your subject line, by failing to supply enough classes to meet demand. Just wait until they make MSF mandatory for an endorsement, as some in Annapolis want to do. If you want to take the course just for the experience, insurance discount, etc. and not just for riding test bypass purposes, shop around neighboring states. West Virginia seems to have lower demand, as do some downstate areas of Va. I took the MSF course even though DC doesn't offer it as a riding test bypass. It was well worth the small cost and a weekend of my time. Paul in DC (MSF certified instructor in Va.) 95 VFR750F ----- Original Message ----- From: Dmitri Pappa > Because I'm getting pretty depressed.. > > Last year I wanted to get a bike, but people said hold out until spring to take > the MSF class. So I call MVA and find out you can't register until Feb.20th. > > So I wait a few months, and call the first day (morning) they're open. Line is > busy. Try twice more that day, still busy. > > So I figure standby has to be pretty easy (someone here said they got in 2nd > attempt). Took off work at 3pm. Gaithersburg has 8 seats. There were 3 > spots, and 11 trying for those spots. Didn't get in. Didn't get in on week 2 > either. I also tried PG county (40 seats). Same deal. Either totally full, > or didn't make the rotation. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 12:24:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: from kafka.net.nih.gov (kafka.net.nih.gov [165.112.130.10]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IGOfO06947 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [128.231.204.107] (pk.niaaa.nih.gov [128.231.204.107]) by kafka.net.nih.gov (8.11.3/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f4IGOd909023 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:24:39 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010518152344.2641.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010518152344.2641.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:26:01 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Erick Singley Subject: Re: MSF courses - Is the Gov't trying to discourage riders? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Because I'm getting pretty depressed.. > >Last year I wanted to get a bike, but people said hold out until >spring to take >the MSF class. So I call MVA and find out you can't register until Feb.20th. > >So I wait a few months, and call the first day (morning) they're >open. Line is >busy. Try twice more that day, still busy. It took me three days of busy signals to get to a person (several times of dropping out of the MVA phone system.) I'm told the whole MVA phone system is taken down by the MSF signing up time. A few people in my class gave up on the phone and took time off to physically go to a MVA and sign up. It's just too popular for it's ability to grow - you need teachers and track space - which is shared by the advanced course and gosh knows what else.... >So I figure standby has to be pretty easy (someone here said they got in 2nd >attempt). Took off work at 3pm. Gaithersburg has 8 seats. There were 3 >spots, and 11 trying for those spots. Didn't get in. Didn't get in on week 2 >either. I also tried PG county (40 seats). Same deal. Either totally full, >or didn't make the rotation. > >So what's the deal? Can't get registered, can't get in on standby. At every >MSF I've been to, there is between 150% and 200% capacity that >they're reserved >for. Do they just not want new people riding bikes? > > >-Dmitri Later in the season, more slots open up, I'm told. Two stand-by people got in on my class (from one dropout) - total class size in Frederick was 11 that class. We were encouraged to consider being MSF teachers in the future, once we were experienced riders - so they're planting the seed of recruiting new teachers early ;) The MSF, isn't the government, IIRC, but they work with MD MVA so you can get your licence through their class. ie need < 19 penalty points and < ( 10?) in one riding test subsection - but to get your license through the class you need < 15 penalty points and <9 in one section. (and something similar in the writing section). A few years ago to get your license through the class, after passing the MSF tests, you took the standard MVA test on the MVA course also. I get what you've been through, but as for the MSF classes, try and try again... *sigh* good luck, Erick From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 12:24:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: from ck.egroups.com (ck.egroups.com [208.50.144.69]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IGOfO06946 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:24:42 -0400 (EDT) X-eGroups-Return: seth@XXXXXX Received: from [10.1.10.111] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 May 2001 16:17:10 -0000 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:17:09 -0000 From: "Seth Kaplan" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: someone give this guy props Message-ID: <9e3hu5+gvhc@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 159.137.146.252 motorcycle doing 160, chicago speeding ticket record. yeah! http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/bike17.html From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 12:31:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web3803.mail.yahoo.com (web3803.mail.yahoo.com [204.71.203.174]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IGVRO07104 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518163122.20258.qmail@web3803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.249.180.236] by web3803.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 09:31:22 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:31:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Re: MSF courses - Is the Gov't trying to discourage riders? To: Dmitri Pappa , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010518152344.2641.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It's tough, and we sympathize. The problem, as I understand it, is not the government - it's the lack of MSF instructors. The government isn't the one who actually administers the classes anyway - it's the MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation), often run through community colleges. I would recommend trying one of the following, in order of preference: 1. Find an MSF class somewhere way out in the boonies. Travel out there and stay in a motel while you take the class. There's much less chance that these classes will be full or booked up till the end of the year. 2. You could get someone you know who already rides (if possible) to take you out for at least a day or two and teach you. You'll probably want to buy the bike beforehand, because this person probably won't want you to learn on their bike. 3. You can buy a bike and have it brought to your home. Read a lot and practice carefully in your local neighborhood (A LOT). Take the test at the DMV (or MVA or whatever it's called where you live) and ride carefully as you build your confidence. For what it's worth I did a combination of option 1 and 3. I got on the MSF waiting list (about 4 months long) and bought a bike. I had it brought to my home and I practiced in my neighborhood until the MSF class came around. Then I got my license and began to ride in earnest. I think there's a common misconception that the MSF is the only way to safely learn to ride. It *is* a good way, but it's not the *only* way in my opinion. Good luck, Chris Weaver --- Dmitri Pappa wrote: > Because I'm getting pretty depressed.. > > Last year I wanted to get a bike, but people said > hold out until spring to take > the MSF class. So I call MVA and find out you can't > register until Feb.20th. > > So I wait a few months, and call the first day > (morning) they're open. Line is > busy. Try twice more that day, still busy. > > So I figure standby has to be pretty easy (someone > here said they got in 2nd > attempt). Took off work at 3pm. Gaithersburg has 8 > seats. There were 3 > spots, and 11 trying for those spots. Didn't get > in. Didn't get in on week 2 > either. I also tried PG county (40 seats). Same > deal. Either totally full, > or didn't make the rotation. > > So what's the deal? Can't get registered, can't get > in on standby. At every > MSF I've been to, there is between 150% and 200% > capacity that they're reserved > for. Do they just not want new people riding bikes? > > What's the alternative to MSF? Can I get a > "learners" license in MD, enough so > I can take the driven course? I just hope I don't > get creamed out on the > street. :( > > > -Dmitri > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 13:05:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13803.mail.yahoo.com (web13803.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.13]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IH5OO07704 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:05:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518170520.74723.qmail@web13803.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.131.90.209] by web13803.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:05:20 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:05:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Kitchell Subject: Bike Night is this SUNDAY To: DC-CYCLES@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This Sunday, CarPool in Arlington. The weather will be great! Be There!!!!! http://www.geocities.com/bikenight/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 13:08:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: from fulcrum ([204.70.128.22]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IH8lO07738 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:08:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) id <0GDJ00G01JLR0R@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-gw.ie.cw.net ([204.70.128.53]) by cw.net (PMDF V5.2-33 #43876) with ESMTP id <0GDJ00EAJJLRRY@XXXXXX>; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-gw.ie.cw.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:08:55 -0400 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:08:10 -0400 From: "Ledford, Calvin" Subject: RE: MSF courses - and riding without a class M endorsement... To: "'Paul Wilson'" , Dmitri Pappa Cc: dc-cycles list Message-id: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC68068063A@resie03.ie.cw.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I got my class M though the MSF class in MD (Annapolis) back in '93. I really needed the class to get up to speed since I had never ridden a motorcycle prior in my life. (Dirtbike, minibike, etc.) I had training (before the class) from a friend on back roads of Andrews AFB on his CBR600F2 but the safety course was a must to bring me up to speed. I ended up buying a CBR myself before the end of my class, and am glad I got to take the driving test with their 250 rebel - since I don't think I could have done the u-turn test with the sportbike. Anyhow, my question is this - with all of the trouble getting into the MSF classes (I hear it's even harder here in VA) how many people out there are skipping the whole thing - to include getting their class M? Back in '93 everyone I knew who rode thought I was nuts for wasting the time/money/effort to get a class M. (I means dozens of people, in fact Idon't think I ever met a rider who did in MD...) No one back then seemed to have taken the time to get the license, and I personally knew several who had gotten warnings and tickets for speed and other moving infractions but never got jacked up for not having the M at the time of the violation. I even knew one guy who had a wreck (caused by another motorist) who didn't have the endorsement - when the cop wrote the report he copied the riders info from the license, so there is no way he could have failed to notice the missing M. I'm just curious as to whether things have tightened up in MD, and what the situation is here in VA - I've got mine (Transferred from MD) but I always wondered why it didn't seem like a big deal to local cops. I'd think that if it was still not a big deal, with the lack of courses (read streamlined process for getting M license) a lot of people might just say "screw it" and ride without. -Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Paul Wilson [mailto:pawilson@XXXXXX] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:15 PM To: Dmitri Pappa Cc: dc-cycles list Subject: Re: MSF courses - Is the Gov't trying to discourage riders? Does MD have reciprocity with another state? Unfortunately VA and MD do not have reciprocal agreements. You might also try taking the course in a more rural part of the state, western Md., Eastern Shore, etc. Unfortunately Md. does seem to encourage people to ride unlicensed, to answer the question in your subject line, by failing to supply enough classes to meet demand. Just wait until they make MSF mandatory for an endorsement, as some in Annapolis want to do. If you want to take the course just for the experience, insurance discount, etc. and not just for riding test bypass purposes, shop around neighboring states. West Virginia seems to have lower demand, as do some downstate areas of Va. I took the MSF course even though DC doesn't offer it as a riding test bypass. It was well worth the small cost and a weekend of my time. Paul in DC (MSF certified instructor in Va.) 95 VFR750F ----- Original Message ----- From: Dmitri Pappa > Because I'm getting pretty depressed.. > > Last year I wanted to get a bike, but people said hold out until spring to take > the MSF class. So I call MVA and find out you can't register until Feb.20th. > > So I wait a few months, and call the first day (morning) they're open. Line is > busy. Try twice more that day, still busy. > > So I figure standby has to be pretty easy (someone here said they got in 2nd > attempt). Took off work at 3pm. Gaithersburg has 8 seats. There were 3 > spots, and 11 trying for those spots. Didn't get in. Didn't get in on week 2 > either. I also tried PG county (40 seats). Same deal. Either totally full, > or didn't make the rotation. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 13:24:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13002.mail.yahoo.com (web13002.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.12]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IHOMO07995 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518172421.10841.qmail@web13002.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.26.132.101] by web13002.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:24:21 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:24:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: MSF courses - Is the Gov't trying to discourage riders? To: Chris Weaver , Dmitri Pappa , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010518163122.20258.qmail@web3803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Chris Weaver wrote: > It's tough, and we sympathize. The problem, as I > understand it, is not the government - it's the lack > of MSF instructors. The government isn't the one who > actually administers the classes anyway - it's the MSF > (Motorcycle Safety Foundation), often run through > community colleges. Actually, that isn't the case. The MSF only provides (at a price of course) the curriculum, the material used for the curriculum, and certifies the instructor. The programs in Virginia are run through a contract that ultimately ends up at the state DMV if you follow the money trail. Louis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 13:24:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web14003.mail.yahoo.com (web14003.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.94]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IHOhO08005 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:24:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518172441.97317.qmail@web14003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [206.229.31.22] by web14003.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:24:41 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:24:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: MSF courses - Is the Gov't trying to discourage riders? To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <20010518163122.20258.qmail@web3803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Chris Weaver wrote: > It's tough, and we sympathize. The problem, as I > understand it, is not the government - it's the lack > of MSF instructors. The government isn't the one who > actually administers the classes anyway - it's the > MSF > (Motorcycle Safety Foundation), often run through > community colleges. Actually, in MD it is the gov't. Maryland Motorcycle Safety is a part of the Motor Vehicle Administration. Leon. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 13:32:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web13004.mail.yahoo.com (web13004.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.14]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IHWYO08175 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:32:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518173233.8642.qmail@web13004.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.26.132.101] by web13004.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:32:33 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:32:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: MD 20-20 preview To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For those of you who have been sitting on the fence deciding whether or not you might want to try out the Mason Dixon 20-20, there is one week left! You can go to the website and view the location of the various boni we have scattered throughout the Eastern United States. As you will see on the web page, there was a little bit of a misunderstanding though... It was supposed to be 20 boni above the Mason Dixon line, and 20 below, however, someone accidently typed MD 20*20, so we have 400 boni for the rally. So far we haven't had threats against our lives, but there is a lot of grumbling in the background. The route for earning a Saddle Sore 1000, Bun Burner, or Bun Burner Gold is also on the website. Take a look, see if anything meets your fancy, and join in the fun (or mass-hysteria). I noticed the DC-Cycles people who are registered for the rally have been really quiet... maybe spending all of their time staring at their maps? Anyhow, we will be taking walk up registrations in York next week. Take a look at the web page for the rules, updates, scoring, what you need to bring with you, and of course, all of the bonus locations! Louis ===== "Admiral" Louis Caplan 1998 Kawasaki Concours Alexandria, VA Co-Planner, MD20-20 http://www.masondixon20-20.org/ Home Page: http://members.nbci.com/Nighthawk700/cycle.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 14:14:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mailgate.dmz.netsec.net (firewall-i.netsec.net [209.117.173.15]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IIEVO08936 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 14:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.dmz.netsec.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6A756007 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 14:19:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:19:29 -0400 (EDT) From: matthew patton To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Ride to Frederick tomorrow morning Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm going to BattleTrax up in Frederick. Hope to have 2 more riders and if anyone else wants to tag along, that's fine too. Meet NTL 7:30 at intersecton of Braddock and Backlick roads in the church parking lot. (2 miles east of 495 and Braddock road. Projected route: up 495 to MD 28 (west). US-15 North. Return via US-340, WVA Rt. 9 and then VA Rt. 7 (and Leesburg). Depending on mood and time may swing south into Clifton before turning back east and the beltway and home. If you have a Q: call my cell phone. 703-980-6716. -- Network Security Technologies Inc. - Commercial support for OpenBSD www.netsec.net (703) 561-0420 matthew.patton@XXXXXX "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." - George Washington From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 14:42:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: from web514.mail.yahoo.com (web514.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.104.229]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IIgSO09513 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 14:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20010518184227.25385.qmail@web514.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.9.247.2] by web514.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:42:27 PDT Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Ride to Frederick tomorrow morning To: matthew patton , dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- matthew patton wrote: > I'm going to BattleTrax up in Frederick. Hope to have 2 > more riders and if > anyone else wants to tag along, that's fine too. Meet NTL > 7:30 at > intersecton of Braddock and Backlick roads in the church > parking lot. (2 > miles east of 495 and Braddock road. > > Projected route: up 495 to MD 28 (west). US-15 North. > Return via US-340, > WVA Rt. 9 and then VA Rt. 7 (and Leesburg). somebody give matthew a better route.....there are plenty of nice roads that he is missing by choosing the shortest-distance-between-two-points method (I270 is never an option so I haven't included it in my calculations). i'd give him some help, but i'm outta here (beach-bound) -- tg ===== tg check out http://www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 15:03:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu06.email.msn.com (cpimssmtpu06.email.msn.com [207.46.181.82]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IJ3WO09909 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:03:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pavilion ([63.36.105.12]) by cpimssmtpu06.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.3225); Fri, 18 May 2001 12:03:16 -0700 From: "Ricardo Pontes" To: "Dccycles" , "Dmitri Pappa" Subject: RE: MSF courses - Is the Gov't trying to discourage riders? Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:08:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20010518152344.2641.qmail@web14204.mail.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2001 19:03:17.0594 (UTC) FILETIME=[328FABA0:01C0DFCD] Dmitri, The MVA will give you a learners if you pass the written test. If you then want to ride, you will need someone with a motorcycle for 4 years. They can ride with you or follow you in a car. (i could be mistaken) 20 questions. The learners test is very easy, study the book and take it. Then ride around. Lemme know if you want me to bring my tiger over :). Getting a small bike for the riding test would be good, i took my test with my ke100. What i would do if i was in your shoes, is to buy a bike then take the learners test. Practice riding in a quiet neighboorhood or empty parking lot with someone that is experienced. If you can afford buy a beater bike, nothing fancy, but easy enoough to pass the test you got it made. Ricardo Pontes 1998 Triumph Tiger So what's the deal? Can't get registered, can't get in on standby. At every MSF I've been to, there is between 150% and 200% capacity that they're reserved for. Do they just not want new people riding bikes? What's the alternative to MSF? Can I get a "learners" license in MD, enough so I can take the driven course? I just hope I don't get creamed out on the street. :( -Dmitri __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 15:48:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: from mail.warrenpub.com (mail.warrenpub.com [209.8.211.130] (may be forged)) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IJmTO10715 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from EXCHANGE by mail.warrenpub.com via smtpd (for dsl027-137-007.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.27.137.7]) with SMTP; 18 May 2001 19:50:19 UT Received: by EXCHANGE with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:47:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Fisk, Euan" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: MD MVA test - Acceptable Engine size? Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:47:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone know if there's a limit to how small the engine is on one's bike needs to be to take the Maryland motorcycle driving test on? I was thinking it would be over 50cc, since in Maryland anything over 50cc has to have a license plate and be registered as a motorcycle. Someone recently told me it was 250cc though. Anyway, this is only an issue because a friend is buying an Italjet 125cc scooter. I'm just hoping she doesn't fall into some bureaucratic netherworld when she shows up to take the test on this thing and they tell her she can't because it's not big enough, and a scooter not a motorcycle. Thanks for any info, - Euan __________________________ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 15:50:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: from bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com (bcopgate.bcop.com [204.99.250.45]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id f4IJodO10794 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:50:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from BCGATE-DOM-Message_Server by bc-gwgate1.int.bcop.com with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 18 May 2001 14:49:10 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.3.1 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:48:31 -0500 From: "George Cole" To: , , Subject: Re: Ride to Frederick tomorrow morning Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id f4IJofO10795 Hey Matthew et all, Sorry I cant join you tomorrow, but see the enclosed route (see below). I scouted this out a month or so back. Its a nice mix of back roads, with some fast sweepers, and twisties and little traffic. About 200 miles round trip It starts at the intersection of MacArthur Blvd and Goldsborogh in Glen Echo MD. Note this will take you North and around Frederick, you may want to take a right on Alt 40 from Rt 17 when you enter Middletown, that will take you right into Frederick. **Disclaimer** I am not responsible if these directions get you hopelessly lost Regards, George Cole 00 VFR 99 R6 R MacArthur Blvd R Falls Road L 190 River Road R 112 SENECA RD L BERRYVILLE RD L RT 28 R 117 L 121 L 355 L COMUS ROAD TO SUGARLOAF MTN L MT EPHRAIM R RT 28 R PARKHILLS ROAD L RT 80 R RT 85 BUCKEYSTOWN L MANOR WOODS L BALLENGER CREEK R CAP STINE ROAD L SOUTH RENN L ELMER PEER RD R ELMER ROAD (TUNNEL) L RT 180 THRU JEFFEERSON R RT 383 R 17 NORTH R HARMONY ROAD R 17 NORTH R RT 77 R CATOCTIN HOLLOW PARK R 15 S L CATOCTIN FURNANCE RD R BLUE MTN ROAD (LUNCH?) R HESSONG BRIDGE L 15 S L DEVILBLIS BRIDGE L DAYSVILLE L RT 26 (LIBERTYTOWN 7-11 GAS) R RT 75 S X RT 70 L RT 80 R RT 75 L BROWNINGSVILE ROAD R CLARKSBURG RD 121 S 270? >>> Tom Gimer 05/18/01 02:42PM >>> --- matthew patton wrote: > I'm going to BattleTrax up in Frederick. Hope to have 2 > more riders and if > anyone else wants to tag along, that's fine too. Meet NTL > 7:30 at > intersecton of Braddock and Backlick roads in the church > parking lot. (2 > miles east of 495 and Braddock road. > > Projected route: up 495 to MD 28 (west). US-15 North. > Return via US-340, > WVA Rt. 9 and then VA Rt. 7 (and Leesburg). somebody give matthew a better route.....there are plenty of nice roads that he is missing by choosing the shortest-distance-between-two-points method (I270 is never an option so I haven't included it in my calculations). i'd give him some help, but i'm outta here (beach-bound) -- tg ===== tg check out http://www.murphygimer.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 18 16:27:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by dirty.meretrix.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id f4IKRcO11446 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 16:27:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 66-44-53-161.s415.tnt7.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com ([66.44.53.161] helo=palladio) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.16 #5) id 150qqV-0001XK-00 ; Fri, 18 May 2001 16:27:36 -0400 Message-ID: <00e601c0dfd9$61ddd880$bb82fea9@palladio> From: "Paul Wilson" To: "Ledford, Calvin" Cc: "dc-cycles list" References: <38F61FDBC3A9D211BADF0090272AC68068063A@resie03.ie.cw.net> Subject: MSF course availability, was Re: MSF courses - and riding without a class M endorsement... Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:09:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 I'm not a spokesman for the Va. program, but they may be adding some more weekday classes to the NOVA schedule, depending on facility and instructor availability. They're usually Mon. night all day Tues. and Wed., or Wed. night all day Thurs. and Fri. Rumor has it that the current schedule is booked up until October at this point. The two NOVA venues are simply maxed out. New venues are needed. If anyone has a classroom building and a big, flat, empty parking lot.... Paul in DC (newly minted MSF certified instructor) 95 VFR750F 91 CB750 (ex) http://users.erols.com/pawilson ----- Original Message ----- From: Ledford, Calvin > I got my class M though the MSF class in MD (Annapolis) back in '93. I > really needed the class to get up to speed since I had never ridden a > motorcycle prior in my life. (Dirtbike, minibike, etc.) ..> > Anyhow, my question is this - with all of the trouble getting into the MSF > classes (I hear it's even harder here in VA) how many people out there are > skipping the whole thing -