From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 08:56:46 2000 From: "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" To: "'Louis F. Caplan'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Bike Night!!!!!!!!!! Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:49:03 -0400 It's not any more lax during the evening. I went to carpool one time for about fifteen minutes to meet someone, and when I got back to where I left the car, it had been towed. IMPORTANT: some of the lots in the area are not clearly marked as permit-only. Be careful. Of course, if you ride a bike you should be parking at Carpool anyway. :^) Chris Weaver '98 VTR 1000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Louis F. Caplan [SMTP:nighthawk700@XXXXXX] > bike/car parked there that doesn't belong there. I know that during the > day > time the cars can be gone before you even finish a sandwich. Maybe more > lax in > the evening, but with plenty of other free parking, don't take a chance. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 09:19:58 2000 From: "Kirt S." To: Subject: not really pertaining to the list. Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 09:17:29 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 My bike is in the shop, and my car's brakes went south yesteray afternoon for no apparent reason. SO, I have 1 (maybe 2) tickets to WWF Monday Night Raw available for mucho cheap. Does anyone want 1 (or 2) of them? And stuff... Kirt From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 09:38:39 2000 From: "Haring, Seth" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: cager question Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 09:38:27 -0400 Don't chastise me but I need to find a place to have a potential used car checked out. It's a '90 Integra with a grip of miles, I just want to make sure that the mechanic is competent, thorough, and trustworthy. Any ideas? Seth From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 11:21:00 2000 From: Mark Kitchell To: "'DC Cycles'" Cc: "'David Forbes'" , "'Brian Walker'" Subject: Ride, Squids and Accidents (not mine) on 211 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:16:11 -0400 I joined Danny Thompson and his friend Francis for a ride to 211 on Sunday. Francis is a good rider but oh so squidly (in a good way). Tricked out F4 with no mirrors or turn signals. He could ride though. This being the first real ride for me since my accident at 211 last September I was nervous and it showed to Danny in my stiffness. We hit backroads from Warrenton to 211. As I climbed the mountain my anxiety level increased. I took the 'scene of the crime' slowly. The turn was a decreasing radius and quite tight, perhaps one of the more difficult on 211. So that made me feel a 'bit' better. Having reached the other side, we stopped for a coke at the little store there. After about 10 minutes we were joined by some more riders and 5 minutes later a State Trooper. He was one of the nicer Troopers I have met. He explained that they were getting complaints of racing from motorists, and that he realized that most motorcyclists were not really racing, but that it seemed that way (leaning over, sound of the pipes, etc) to the drivers. He was very cool and asked us to spread the word among the community to keep it mellow on 211 or his boss would instruct them to place a patrol car each end of the mountain and one in the middle. After warning us that no moto can out run a radio he left. On the way back, the reason for his concern became apparent. Two turns before my crash site, a guy wadded his brand new (temp tags) R6 into the guardrail. It was a not too bad right hander but he obviously hit the brakes, stood it up, and crashed right into the guardrail. The bike broke the thick post holding the guard rail right out of the ground. The rider (surprise) was wearing leathers and was hurt but not too badly (he did go the hospital I think). The R6 was hurt much worse, probably a total. I am guessing here, but I think he was a relatively inexperienced rider out on a fast bike with fast friends. I actually blame them for not taking it easier with a new rider/new bike. They were in jeans and t shirts, by the way. Anyway, except for that incident, we had a blast and I am beginning to regain some confidence. California Superbike will help alot too. Mark From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 11:52:35 2000 Reply-To: From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "dc-cycles@dc-cycles. org (E-mail)" Subject: CBR Service manuals 4 sale/trade Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:48:11 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Any Hurricane owners out there? I have two Honda service manuals for sale/trade if anyone is interested. The first one is for the 1987 CBR600F Hurricane, the second one covers the years from 1987-1990 for the same model. Bike is history and Spring Cleaning means they have to go. If anyone has a spare manual for the 1996 year CBR600F3, I'm interested in getting one of those in case someone like me has traded up and has an extra manual for a bike they no longer own lying around. Cedric 1996 CBR600F3 AMA 663626 Annandale, VA From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 13:23:36 2000 From: HiCapMag@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 13:23:12 EDT Subject: Re: FastTrax To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anyone on the list have experience with the FastTrax Advanced Street Riders School? They run it at Nelson Ledges and Mid-Ohio, and I'm contemplating dragging the FJ1200 along when I have to go up there for business so I can check out the school while I'm up there. If any have comments or observations to offer I thank you for them in advnace; please reply by e-mail as well, I miss stuff in the digests a lot. HCM From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 13:40:17 2000 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 13:41:04 -0700 From: "Charles V. Pena" X-Accept-Language: en To: "Ryan S. McClune" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: good lawyer? Ryan, Try Tom McGrath (800) 321-8968. He is an avid motorcyclist and accident lawyer specializing in motorcycle accident cases. Regards, Chuck "Ryan S. McClune" wrote: > > Do you know a good lawyer that has experience with > cycle accidents in the state of VA? > > Thanks for your time. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ -- "Wherever you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 13:45:27 2000 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 13:46:05 -0700 From: "Charles V. Pena" X-Accept-Language: en To: Mark Kitchell CC: "'DC Cycles'" Subject: Re: Ride, Squids and Accidents (not mine) on 211 Mark, Glad to hear you went back to where it happened and rode through it safe, sane, and unscathed. Wish I could've been with you guys! But I was busy spending quality time with my in-laws and playing golf! %^) Sorry to hear about the guy on the R6. Cheers, Chuck Mark Kitchell wrote : > > I joined Danny Thompson and his friend Francis for a ride to 211 on Sunday. > Francis is a good rider but oh so squidly (in a good way). Tricked out F4 > with no mirrors or turn signals. He could ride though. > > This being the first real ride for me since my accident at 211 last > September I was nervous and it showed to Danny in my stiffness. We hit > backroads from Warrenton to 211. As I climbed the mountain my anxiety level > increased. I took the 'scene of the crime' slowly. The turn was a > decreasing radius and quite tight, perhaps one of the more difficult on 211. > So that made me feel a 'bit' better. -- "Wherever you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 14:26:05 2000 From: Mark Kitchell To: "'DC Cycles'" , "'VFR List'" , "'LD Rider'" Subject: Bike Night is Next Sunday Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:21:21 -0400 Another reminder...this is gonna be big dc-cycles.org presents... BIKE NIGHT Carpool Restaurant and Bar 4000 Fairfax Drive Arlington, VA Sunday, May 7, 2000 6pm to 9pm Join DC area motorcyclists at Carpool (http://www.gocarpool.com) in Arlington, Virginia for the first BIKE NIGHT of the summer. ALL motorcyclists (cruisers, sportbikes, touring bikes, dirt bikes) are welcome to join in the fun and camaraderie. BIKE NIGHT will feature: * Motorcycle videos * Door prizes courtesy of area motorcycle shops and other businesses * Lots of good food and drink * Pool and darts * Reserved motorcycle parking at Carpool (first come-first served basis) If you ride a motorcycle (and even you don't), this is where you'll want to be on May 7th. For more information, please contact: Mark Kitchell (markkitchell@XXXXXX or 703-299-9727) Chuck Pena (cvkgpena@XXXXXX or 703-522-6581) From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 15:18:28 2000 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:13 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" , "Vfrlist@XXXXXX" Subject: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? My bike for the unfamiliar... '86 VFR750 w/CBR F2 conversion running gear. 17" wheels front and back. I need to new tires as the D207's are beginning to give up the ghost. First... what should I put on there? I'm using a 160/60ZR17 out back and a 120/60ZR17 front... the tires sizes will stay the same. I like the D207s... always felt great and never slid (maybe I wasn't riding it hard enough). I'm tempted to put another set back on the bike since they worked so well for me over the past two years (and despite the soft compound I put over 12k miles on them). How about another brand? Since I haven't been out looking for tires in a couple of years I have no clue as to what is the best right now. I'm not too worried about the cost as you get what you pay for, however, the D207s are coming in at pretty good prices. I'm listening... Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 15:46:31 2000 From: bergman@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Reply-To: bergman@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Bike Night is Next Sunday Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:46:28 -0400 In your message dated: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:21:21 EDT, your pithy ruminations on were: => Another reminder...this is gonna be big => => dc-cycles.org presents... => => BIKE NIGHT => Carpool Restaurant and Bar Does anyone else see something intrinsically _wrong_ with having "Bike Night" at a place called "Carpool"? It's kind of like having the May Day rally at the Joseph McArthy Social Hall, or hosting the Vegetarian Club meeting at the local Outback Steakhouse. :) Mark ----- Mark Bergman Biker, Rock Climber, Unix mechanic, IATSE #1 Stagehand '94 Yamaha GTS1000A bergman@XXXXXX I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters 5+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman -- From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 15:55:33 2000 X-Sender: tech3047@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:49:15 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "wes 8-)#" Subject: Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? www.metzeler.com MeZ3 on the front, MeZ4 on the rear. Good control & feel, good mileage. MeZ3 on the rear you lose a bit of mileage but gain some control & feel. MNSHO. --wes (currently running MeZ3's front & back on the '99 Bandit 1200) >How about another brand? Since I haven't been out looking for tires in a >couple >of years I have no clue as to what is the best right now. I'm not too worried >about the cost as you get what you pay for, however, the D207s are coming >in at >pretty good prices. > >I'm listening... > >Tom From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 15:59:31 2000 From: Mark Kitchell To: "'bergman@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Bike Night is Next Sunday Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 15:54:53 -0400 Yeah, well Motorcycle House was booked up for that night..... > -----Original Message----- > From: bergman@XXXXXX [SMTP:bergman@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2000 3:46 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Bike Night is Next Sunday > > > > In your message dated: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:21:21 EDT, > your pithy ruminations on were: > => Another reminder...this is gonna be big > => > => dc-cycles.org presents... > => > => BIKE NIGHT > => Carpool Restaurant and Bar > > Does anyone else see something intrinsically _wrong_ with having "Bike > Night" > at a place called "Carpool"? It's kind of like having the May Day rally at > the > Joseph McArthy Social Hall, or hosting the Vegetarian Club meeting at the > local > Outback Steakhouse. :) > > Mark > ----- > Mark Bergman Biker, Rock Climber, Unix mechanic, IATSE #1 Stagehand > '94 Yamaha GTS1000A > bergman@XXXXXX > > I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: > rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters > 5+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman > > > -- > From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 16:05:07 2000 From: "Jay St. Peter" To: Cc: Subject: Re:Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 16:09:58 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I'm not 100% familiar with the geometry of your VFR with all the F2 stuff on it, but my F2 requires some significant effort at the bars to turn. I think the triangular profile of the D207s help it to turn in quicker. My ZX9 on the other hand seems to fall into the turns with the D207s, so I would go with some BT56SS if I keep it long enough to need tires. I have been getting good mileage out of the 207s (around 7K), so no complaints there. Really, if you're happy with the way the bike handles with the 207s, why change? They are the cheapest of the sportbike tires. If you feel like the bike falls into turns a little bit, try some others. Jay St. Peter From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 16:15:58 2000 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 16:15:47 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: "wes 8-)#" CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? "wes 8-)#" wrote: > > www.metzeler.com > > MeZ3 on the front, MeZ4 on the rear. Good control & feel, good > mileage. MeZ3 on the rear you lose a bit of mileage but gain some control > & feel. How much mileage? I'm still impressed by Tom's 12K out of a 207. Dale -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 16:31:18 2000 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 16:23 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]:Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? The F2 and my VFR share about the same geometry so I have exactly the same symptoms that you do... the D207's when they were new countered that problem quite nicely, however, I would like it to fall in a little quicker than it does especially at lower speeds (feels like trying to turn a truck at low speeds... quite quick at speeds above twenty or so). The D207 is probably the "pointiest" tire out there so I'll probably have to do more adjusting to get any better than it is now. Oh well... I'll probably stick with the D207's as they do what I need them to do pretty well. Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re:Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? Author: jay.stpeter@XXXXXX (Jay St. Peter) Date: 05/01/2000 7:09 PM I'm not 100% familiar with the geometry of your VFR with all the F2 stuff on it, but my F2 requires some significant effort at the bars to turn. I think the triangular profile of the D207s help it to turn in quicker. My ZX9 on the other hand seems to fall into the turns with the D207s, so I would go with some BT56SS if I keep it long enough to need tires. I have been getting good mileage out of the 207s (around 7K), so no complaints there. Really, if you're happy with the way the bike handles with the 207s, why change? They are the cheapest of the sportbike tires. If you feel like the bike falls into turns a little bit, try some others. Jay St. Peter From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 17:10:21 2000 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:06 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Dale Horstman" , "wes@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions Yep... 12k miles. Bought'em when the VFR had 27k and some change on it and it has just crossed the 40k mile mark. The tires still have tread (the rear would probably NOT pass inspection) but the front is cupping and the rear is getting a nice and squared off look to it. I just ran them at the Dunlop recommended pressure of 42 PSI front and rear (oh gee... let's start up that thread again). :-) Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? Author: Horkster@XXXXXX (Dale Horstman) Date: 05/01/2000 7:15 PM "wes 8-)#" wrote: > > www.metzeler.com > > MeZ3 on the front, MeZ4 on the rear. Good control & feel, good > mileage. MeZ3 on the rear you lose a bit of mileage but gain some control > & feel. How much mileage? I'm still impressed by Tom's 12K out of a 207. Dale -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 17:23:36 2000 X-Sender: tech3047@XXXXXX Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:16:31 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "wes 8-)#" Subject: Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? I've got 2200 on my Z3's right now. 12K is pretty impressive for a sport tire. I've put 3's and 4's on other bikes and I'd say the 4's last about 3000 miles longer to about 10K on the rear. I've had 3's that made it to 10K -- but only on the front. For me, the response and grip of the tire make replacing them a little more often worth it. --wes > mileage. MeZ3 on the rear you lose a bit of mileage but gain some control > > & feel. > >How much mileage? I'm still impressed by Tom's 12K out of >a 207. > >Dale From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 17:39:24 2000 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:37 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Tom Zell" , "Horkster@XXXXXX" , "wes@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[3]: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions An update... Ordered three Dunlop D207's (Jeannette ran over a nasty screw with hers so I'm replacing that one as well) from MotorcycleTires.com. Grand total was $361 delivered. Not bad for three sport tires, huh? Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 18:36:47 2000 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: GPS' and putes Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 18:31:06 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 What about the Toshiba 'Tough-book' line? They're supposed to be a little more forgiving to vibration and drops as well as somewhat wx-proof. Might be a little pricey though. ------------------------------------------------------ Dale Horstman wrote: Alas, the weak link in all this is the laptop itself. Rugged, fast, small, and cheap don't necessarily co-exist very well yet. ---------------------------------------------------- Todd Peer (Springfield, VA) <----------------------------------------> * '91 ST1100, '92 CB750, '94 XT350 * SS1k, FiTe V * IBA, AMA, HRCA, HSTA(7615), STOC(487) * 148,000 miles and counting <----------------------------------------> From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 22:13:13 2000 From: "Bruce Norton" To: Subject: Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:11:30 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Ummm... Correct me if I'm wrong but, if you get Dennis Kirk to match Chaparral's prices in the latest magazine you could get one 120/60-17 and two 160/60-17 D207s shipped for $310.41. I've been ordering tires for myself and several friends like this for over two years with no problems. Lots of tires. My $.02 Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Zell" > An update... > > Ordered three Dunlop D207's (Jeannette ran over a nasty screw with hers so I'm > replacing that one as well) from MotorcycleTires.com. Grand total was $361 > delivered. Not bad for three sport tires, huh? > > Tom > '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Mon May 1 22:58:39 2000 From: "Gary Foreman, IDS" To: "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: Anyone here riding a Blue/White TLR Sunday in Front Royal? Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:58:05 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 I meet someone riding a TL1000R Sunday in Bentonville, VA and we rode to Luray and then across 211. Lost you guys before the mountain, just wanted to make sure everyone was okay. Gary Foreman, TL Owners Club gary@XXXXXX http://www.tl1000.com _ .-.-.=\-. (_)=='(_) From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 00:36:19 2000 X-Originating-IP: [165.247.85.7] From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re[2]:Need tires for the VFR... Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 00:35:43 EDT From: "Tom Zell" The F2 and my VFR share about the same geometry so I have exactly the same symptoms that you do... the D207's when they were new countered that problem quite nicely, however, I would like it to fall in a little quicker than it does especially at lower speeds (feels like trying to turn a truck at low speeds... quite quick at speeds above twenty or so). The D207 is probably the "pointiest" tire out there so I'll probably have to do more adjusting to get any better than it is now. Oh well... I'll probably stick with the D207's as they do what I need them to do pretty well. ========== Another thing you may want to do Tom, is lower the front end about 10-15mm. Some people on the VFR list did this and I followed suit. Kinda gives it "power steering". I'm pretty satisfied with my 207s btw, and will use them again. JK 95 VFR D-mode ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 00:36:36 2000 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 21:22:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: FS: 'Prillia RS250 street bike.. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Dawn Greer??? She get married again or something?? hehehe I haven't ridden Dawn's, but I have ridden Jon Koh's RS250 which is more or less identical to hers but without the aftermarket pipes... I can absolutely say without a doubt it's one of the funnest bikes I have ever ridden! Collin ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 00:49:54 2000 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 21:47:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: FAstrax To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Which date are you planning on doing Fastrax?? I'll be at a few of their racing events this summer... would be happy to come up early to help out for the friday class... THe instructors are pretty good, and you'll get a lot for your money... The only down side of that school is the track itself. It's pretty much the bumpiest, roughest track in the country... or so it seems. Honestly, I have felt more beat up after a weekend of racing there than I do after CRASHING at summit point. But for a shool day you should be fine. Make sure you have fairly new rubber on your bike. The track surface there is VERY abusive on tires. Ground clearance is also going to be a problem on that FJ of yours. It's a VERY easy track to get a knee on the ground, especially turn 12. Start learning how to hang off the bike some so you can save your pipes fom dragging too much :) It's a front tire track.... Normal pressures on a warm day (>75 degrees) are 32psi front and 30 psi rear... that was for Dunlop 207GP's... street based tires might require slightly higher to prevent overheating. Let me know if you make up your mind to do it... I am pretty familiar with the track and would be happy to chat with you about it. Collin ps: I owe a several folks some email replies... I am slowly catching back up...sorry for the delays (sean, ryan, others...) ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 07:15:25 2000 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 04:15:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: GPS, more accurate now? To: DC-Cycles , LDRiders Got this from today's Washington Post: President Clinton halted the military's longtime practice of jamming the signals of civilian global positioning devices that it feared could be used by enemies to target missiles. The devices are now widely used to help steer cars, fly planes, and find missing skiers and hikers. New technology makes it possible to selectively block the signals to regions of the world where the United States perceives a threat, the White House said. The difference in accuracy means that the position of a car can be determined within the dimensions of a tennis court rather than a football field. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 07:50:49 2000 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 04:50:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Re[3]: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions To: Tom Zell , "Horkster@XXXXXX" , "wes@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" As Bruce pointed out you could have gotten a better deal then what you paid. I also recently just put on the BT-56SS (even as much as I hate Bridgestone) and so far they seem to be excellent tires and getting better reviews then the now outdated 207's. And contrary to Jay's beliefs the 207's are NOT the lowest priced tires out there. I had a set of BT-56SS shipped to me a few months ago for right around $180.00 my .02 Glenn --- Tom Zell wrote: > An update... > > Ordered three Dunlop D207's (Jeannette ran over a > nasty screw with hers so I'm > replacing that one as well) from > MotorcycleTires.com. Grand total was $361 > delivered. Not bad for three sport tires, huh? > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 08:44:41 2000 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 05:44:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Ride, Squids and Accidents (not mine) on 211 To: Mark Kitchell , "'DC Cycles'" Cc: "'David Forbes'" , "'Brian Walker'" --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > I joined Danny Thompson and his friend Francis for a > ride to 211 on Sunday. > I am guessing here, but I think he was a relatively > inexperienced rider out > on a fast bike with fast friends. I actually blame > them for not taking it > easier with a new rider/new bike. You're guessing what happened, yet still placing blame? Please. This is a dangerous sport, you ride at your own risk, and there is nobody to blame for overcooking a turn except the guy who did it. A few warnings at the beginning of any ride is all that is needed--no blaming of others. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 09:03:31 2000 From: "Coleman, Perry" To: "'DC Cycles'" Cc: "'Tom Gimer'" Subject: RE: Ride, Squids and Accidents (not mine) on 211 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 06:02:21 -0700 Tom, I have to agree with you. As someone who "overcooked" a turn while following some faster riders, I never once thought to blame them. I made the mistake - I paid the price. Riders in a group should know that they're not going to be left behind the rest of the group. In other words, riders will wait at turns, etc. to regroup. That alone will help cut down on people riding beyond their abilities, trying to keep up. Other than that, each rider needs to remember (and maybe be reminded) to: Ride your own ride! Perry -----Original Message----- From: Tom Gimer [mailto:t_gimer@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:45 AM To: Mark Kitchell; 'DC Cycles' Cc: 'David Forbes'; 'Brian Walker' Subject: Re: Ride, Squids and Accidents (not mine) on 211 --- Mark Kitchell wrote: > I joined Danny Thompson and his friend Francis for a > ride to 211 on Sunday. > I am guessing here, but I think he was a relatively > inexperienced rider out > on a fast bike with fast friends. I actually blame > them for not taking it > easier with a new rider/new bike. You're guessing what happened, yet still placing blame? Please. This is a dangerous sport, you ride at your own risk, and there is nobody to blame for overcooking a turn except the guy who did it. A few warnings at the beginning of any ride is all that is needed--no blaming of others. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 14:27:57 2000 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Cc: "'genna@XXXXXX'" Subject: clutch Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:27:27 -0400 Genna Melamed, after calling us "DC CYCLE CLUB" (Aren't we a gang?) asked, "Does anyone know an easy and effective way to bleed teh clutch and/or test teh system for leaks?" So far you've received good advice. Two more helpful hints: 1) Get a "Mity-Vac" to pull brake fluid through the system initially (beats pumping the lever) or a long clean hose and use your diaphragm -- at your own risk. 2) If the clutch (or brakes) still feel spongy, with pressure on the lever, loosen the banjo bolt near the master cylinder. Often a bubble will hang in that void. Do cover all painted surfaces near by, as you'll get a good uncontrolled squirt of brake fluid - and hopefully a little tenacious air bubble. Carl in Bethesda (from the gummimint and heppin') From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 17:06:02 2000 From: "Jordan, Michael" To: "DC-Cycles (E-mail)" Subject: SA is dead! Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 14:05:43 -0700 GPS users rejoice! http://www.af.mil/news/May2000/n20000502_000668.html From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 19:34:10 2000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:35:18 -0400 Subject: MC parking in Bethesda From: David Cross To: "'DC Cycles'" The garage in which I park my motorcycle at work is going to be shut down for 3 months for repairs. Anyone know of free/cheap parking in the Bethesda area, as close to Cordell Ave as possible? Thanks. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 20:19:06 2000 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:18:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? To: Dale Horstman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Dale Horstman wrote: > I'm still impressed by Tom's 12K out of a 207. > > Dale Tom who? I must have missed something. How did anybody get 12k miles out of a 207? thing musta been run at like 50 psi Perhaps it was a 205? -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 21:02:09 2000 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: FW: Rally Announcement- the Mason Dixon 20-20 Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 20:55:27 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 FYI....if it hasn't already been posted. Todd -----Original Message----- From: Rick Miller [mailto:cog3k@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 1:11 PM To: COG; LD List Cc: Rick (IndSys Shirk; Clyde Watson; Guy BYoungIINEAD-; Russell Flemming; Dave Patty Harbin; toddlwitte@XXXXXX; mriderleon@XXXXXX; Louis F. Caplan; Horstman Dale; bryan main; Todd Peer Subject: Rally Announcement- the Mason Dixon 20-20 Fellow riders, By now you are aware the Capitol 1000 for this year has been cancelled- bummer. Worry Not! As most Cap1000 participants have already made the arrangements for lodging, etc, some folks at the DC Cycles List and local Balt-Wash COG members are offering you the opportunity to still enjoy the "spirit" of the Cap1000. Our rally can in no way replace the Cap1000; it's merely a substitute for the current year's hiatus. Here is the basic info: What: The Mason Dixon 20-20 Rally. A group Saddlesore 1000 - all riders must use the same route leaving at nearly the same time. The tentative route is approximately 1025 miles, including some great motorcycling roads, as well as slab. Why: This rally is to offer a "real challenge" for the 2000 Gerlachfest's attempt later this year. The current mark is 19 riders. Gerlachfest is shooting for 40 finishers. Let's show them "how it's done downtown" and make them earn it! When: June 9-11 (Same dates as the Cap1000) Tech: Odometer checks only- ride safe and smart. IBA Saddlesore Rules will enforced for documentation and fuel stops. Where: Hagerstown, MD (same motels: Econolodge/ State Line Inn (301)791-3560 and restaurant- the Blacksteer Steakhouse next door). How Much: The cost is $50 and includes rally package, your IBA Saddlesore paperwork, prizes, and the Sunday Banquet, all Rally proceeds go to the Fran Crane Memorial Fund. This rally is open to any and all riders; long distance newbies are encouraged to get in the mix- it'll be an "easy" way to get your IBA certificate (if there is such a thing as an "easy way"). We are trying to coordinate a common dinner stop along the route. Entries close on June 2; don't delay - be part of the Mason Dixon 20-20! Further MD 20-20 Rally details can be found on the MD 20-20 web page: http://MD-20-20.tripod.com if you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact the rally coordinators: mailtto:MD2020info@XXXXXX be there or be a rhomboid, the MD 20-20 Rally coordinators ===== "The night's busted open and these two lanes can take us an-ny-where." the Boss Join the Mason Dixon 2020, a group Saddlesore Challenge- June 9-11. http://MD-20-20.tripod.com "Benny" '90 ZG; "COG 3k"; Balmer, Murland. www.bbdcon.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Tue May 2 22:39:58 2000 From: "Thomas_Zell" To: "Tom Gimer" , "Dale Horstman" Cc: Subject: Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 22:33:07 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Here we go again... I got 12k miles out of them with the pressure set at 42 PSI as recommended by Dunlop. Tom '86 VFR750 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" To: "Dale Horstman" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 8:18 PM Subject: Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? > --- Dale Horstman wrote: > > > I'm still impressed by Tom's 12K out of a 207. > > > > Dale > > Tom who? I must have missed something. How did > anybody get 12k miles out of a 207? thing musta been > run at like 50 psi > > Perhaps it was a 205? > > > -- > tg > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 00:25:07 2000 From: "mobacc" To: Subject: New Kriss modulator Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 00:19:27 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Just installed a Kriss headlight modulator, it having been recommended over time by a number of folk. If anybody is interested in the task writeup I did for the Vulcan list, I'll be happy to send. Email me offlist. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 02:55:24 2000 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: shipping a bike to wayne indiana Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 09:54:06 GMT X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e436taA17888 anyone know how much it would cost, and how to go about, shipping a bike to wayne indiana? Daniel From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 03:05:21 2000 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: "Collin T. Fagan" Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: FS: 'Prillia RS250 street bike.. Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:07:33 GMT X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e4375OA18105 |>can absolutely say without a doubt it's one of the funnest bikes I have |>ever ridden! what kind of perfomance does that bike get? 0-60, top end? I have heard someone say it will make half the 600's out there look bad. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 09:29:40 2000 From: "Haring, Seth" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, daniel_ex250@XXXXXX Subject: RE: shipping a bike to wayne indiana Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:28:32 -0400 The AMA supposedly offers a service if you are a member. I believe it is between $400-500 door to door. > ---------- > From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX[SMTP:daniel_ex250@XXXXXX] > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 5:54 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: shipping a bike to wayne indiana > > anyone know how much it would cost, > and how to go about, shipping a bike to wayne indiana? > > Daniel > From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 10:02:19 2000 From: bergman@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: breakfast in Staunton Reply-To: bergman@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:00:34 -0400 I'm planning on heading to Staunton one day this weekend for the terrific cinnamon buns served at the Rowe Family Restaurant. Does anyone have any suggestions for tasty roads along the way--leaving from Manassas? Others are welcome, I'll let you know which day. ------ Mark Bergman Biker, IATSE #1 Stagehand, Rock Climber, Unix mechanic '94 Yamaha GTS1000A bergman@XXXXXX I want a newsgroup with a infinite S/N ratio! Now taking CFV on: rec.motorcycles.stagehands.pet-bird-owners.pinballers.unix-supporters 5+ So Far--Want to join? Check out: http://www.panix.com/~bergman -- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 10:51:35 2000 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 10:51:21 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: shipping a bike to wayne indiana daniel_ex250@XXXXXX wrote: > > anyone know how much it would cost, > and how to go about, shipping a bike to wayne indiana? > > Daniel Ship? It's only about 500 miles. Why not ride it? :) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 11:10:20 2000 Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:09:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: 207s...was Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... opinions? To: Thomas_Zell Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX I have a hard time believing that unless you ran 'em 'til the cords were showing. My hat is off to you though if that's true. --- Thomas_Zell wrote: > Here we go again... > > I got 12k miles out of them with the pressure set at > 42 PSI as recommended > by Dunlop. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 11:12:42 2000 Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:12:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: New Kriss modulator To: mobacc , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Don't be too surprised if some DC cager tries to run you off the road for putting that anoying strobe light in their rear view mirror. Just being honest here. --- mobacc wrote: > Just installed a Kriss headlight modulator, it > having been recommended over > time by a number of folk. > If anybody is interested in the task writeup I did > for the Vulcan list, I'll > be happy to send. Email me offlist. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 11:22:14 2000 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:19 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:207s...was Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion. Thanks Tom... it's true... not showing cords yet but well under what is legal for inspection or safe wet road travel (on the rear). Come and look for yourself! (I'll be hanging it in the back yard for the pups to chew on). Later, Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: 207s...was Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... Author: t_gimer@XXXXXX (Tom Gimer) Date: 05/03/2000 11:09 AM I have a hard time believing that unless you ran 'em 'til the cords were showing. My hat is off to you though if that's true. --- Thomas_Zell wrote: > Here we go again... > > I got 12k miles out of them with the pressure set at > 42 PSI as recommended > by Dunlop. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 11:27:00 2000 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:26:46 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: Todd Peer CC: DC-Cycles Subject: Re: FW: Rally Announcement- the Mason Dixon 20-20 Todd Peer wrote: > > FYI....if it hasn't already been posted. > > Join the Mason Dixon 2020, a group Saddlesore Challenge- June 9-11. > http://MD-20-20.tripod.com > This is gonna be cool! Anyone considering 1000 mile day and want to take part in a World Record Attempt? I am SO there!!! :) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 11:39:24 2000 X-Sender: jzell@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 11:39:01 -0400 To: "Tom Zell" From: Jeannette Zell Subject: Re:207s...was Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion. Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" It's from all that "tough commuting" type of riding we do. LOL - Jeannette '86 VFR 700 F2 http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 At 11:19 AM 5/3/00 -0400, Tom Zell wrote: >Thanks Tom... it's true... not showing cords yet but well under what is legal >for inspection or safe wet road travel (on the rear). Come and look for >yourself! (I'll be hanging it in the back yard for the pups to chew on). > >Later, >Tom >'86 VFR750 > > >____________________Reply Separator____________________ >Subject: 207s...was Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion... >Author: t_gimer@XXXXXX (Tom Gimer) >Date: 05/03/2000 11:09 AM > >I have a hard time believing that unless you ran 'em >'til the cords were showing. My hat is off to you >though if that's true. > > >--- From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 12:06:08 2000 Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:05:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re:207s...was Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversion. To: Jeannette Zell , Tom Zell Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" You know, I was thinking about that....that's why it's so hard to believe--->that tire should be so DONE down the middle of the rear after 8k miles max. I could see a 207 front lasting 12k commuter miles. Never figured a rear could. --- Jeannette Zell wrote: > It's from all that "tough commuting" type of riding > we do. LOL > > - Jeannette > '86 VFR 700 F2 > http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/3081 > > At 11:19 AM 5/3/00 -0400, Tom Zell wrote: > >Thanks Tom... it's true... not showing cords yet > >but well under what is legal > >for inspection or safe wet road travel (on the > >rear). Come and look for > >yourself! (I'll be hanging it in the back yard for > >the pups to chew on). > > > >Later, > >Tom > >'86 VFR750 > > > > > >________________ReplySeparator________________ > > > >I have a hard time believing that unless you ran > >'em 'til the cords were showing. My hat is off to > >you though if that's true. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 13:00:25 2000 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 12:57 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "Tom Gimer" , "jzell@XXXXXX" Cc: "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re[2]:207s...was Re: Need tires for the VFR with F2 conversi Jeannette's is the commuter bike... mine was ridden in "sport" mode more often than not. Our VA Beach trip is what put the nail in the coffin for my rear though... lots of slab going to and from our B&B on the Eastern Shore. All in all though it lasted that long... I swear it! :-) Tom '86 VFR750 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 14:26:20 2000 X-Sender: RMEYER@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 14:16:56 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: New Kriss modulator At 08:12 AM 5/3/00 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: >Don't be too surprised if some DC cager tries to run >you off the road for putting that anoying strobe light >in their rear view mirror. Just being honest here. > > When running a headlight modulator, I *always* (at least when I don't forget), switch it off or switch to low beam when I'm close behind someone in a cage. But when I switched from a bike with a modulator to one without, I couldn't believe how much more often I got cut off, had people make left turns across my path, etc. I'll take the risk of offending a few people vs. not being seen. ITW, Bob Meyer '92 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ===================================================== People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 15:52:55 2000 From: "Nelson Fernandez" To: "Dc-Cycles" Subject: Non-Moto / Feeling young today? I can fix that. Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:46:39 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Just in case you were feeling young today, this will certainly change things. Each year the staff at Beloit College in Wisconsin puts together a list to try to give the faculty a sense of the mindset of that year's incoming freshmen. Here is this year's list: The people who are starting college this fall across the nation were born in 1982. They have no meaningful recollection of the Reagan Era and probably did not know he had ever been shot. They were prepubescent when the Persian Gulf War was waged. Black Monday 1987 is as significant to them as the Great Depression. There has been only one Pope. They were 11 when the Soviet Union broke apart and do not remember the Cold War. They have never feared a nuclear war. They are too young to remember the space shuttle blowing up. Tianamen Square means nothing to them. Their lifetime has always included AIDS. Bottle caps have always been screw off and plastic. Atari predates them, as do vinyl albums. The expression, you sound like a broken record means nothing to them. They have never owned a record player. They have likely never played Pac-Man and have never heard of Ping-Pong. They may have never heard of an 8- track. The Compact Disc was introduced when they were 1 year old. As far as they know, stamps have always cost about 33 cents. They have always had an answering machine. Most have never seen a TV set with only 13 channels, nor have they seen a black-and-white TV. They have always had cable. There has always been VCRs, but they have no idea what BETA is. They cannot fathom not having a remote control. They were born the year that Walkmen were introduced by Sony. Roller-skating has always meant in-line for them. Jay Leno has always been on the Tonight Show. They have no idea when or why Jordache jeans were cool. Popcorn has always been cooked in the microwave. They have never seen Larry Bird play. They never took a swim and thought about Jaws. The Vietnam War is as ancient history to them as WWI, WWII and the Civil War. They have no idea that Americans were ever held hostage in Iran. They can't imagine what hard contact lenses are. They don't know who Mork was or where he was from. They never heard: "Where's the beef?", "I'd walked a mile for a Camel," or "de plane, de plane!" They do not care who shot J.R. and have no idea who J.R. is. The Titanic was found? They thought we always knew where it was. Michael Jackson has always been white. Kansas, Chicago, Boston, America, and Alabama are places, not groups. McDonalds never came in Styrofoam containers. There has always been MTV. They don't have a clue how to use a typewriter. Do you feel old yet? pass this on to the other old fogies. From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 22:28:04 2000 From: MEFRENCH1@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 22:27:47 EDT Subject: New to list. To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Hi everyone. My name is Michele. I'm relatively new to the area and am looking for riding partners. I ride a Triumph Adventurer. Are there any Triumph clubs in the area? The closest one I have found is up in Pennsylvania. I also enjoy overnight rides. Any suggestions? From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 22:43:10 2000 Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 22:38:22 -0400 From: Bill Huson To: MEFRENCH1@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New to list. Rich - paging Rich C! Methinks he's in a brit bike group. But I believe most of us are eclectic. They even let us Harley guys and gals play with them. Bill MEFRENCH1@XXXXXX wrote: > Hi everyone. My name is Michele. I'm relatively new to the area and am > looking for riding partners. I ride a Triumph Adventurer. Are there any > Triumph clubs in the area? The closest one I have found is up in > Pennsylvania. I also enjoy overnight rides. Any suggestions? From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 23:10:32 2000 From: Preludef2@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:10:18 EDT Subject: looking for a bike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX i was wondering if anyone knows of a 98 gsxr for sale? if so i am looking for one. let me know....thanks brent honda 94 600 f2 From dc-cycles-request Wed May 3 23:46:58 2000 X-Sender: tech3047@XXXXXX Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 23:40:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "wes 8-)#" Subject: Re: looking for a bike http://www.traderonline.com/cycle/index.shtml --wes At 23:10 03-05-00, Preludef2@XXXXXX wrote: >i was wondering if anyone knows of a 98 gsxr for sale? if so i am looking for >one. let me know....thanks brent >honda 94 600 f2 From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 09:32:28 2000 Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 06:32:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave LeNard Subject: 83 Honda Parts Bike for sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX The bike is a red 1983 VT 500C Model, 490cc engine. The bike does not run, all major parts are still on the bike. No title but I do have the bill of sale, and Clymer. I can deliver in the DC area. If you are still interested please let me know by email. I am in Arlington, VA and will be available to show it any day this week except Saturday (unless before 9:30). Asking $150 o.b.o. ===== "The opinions expressed herein are not necessarily those of my employer, not necessarily mine, and probably not necessary." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 09:43:30 2000 From: "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: FS: '86 Kawasaki 454 LTD Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 09:35:48 -0400 For sale: 1986 Kawasaki 454 LTD (It's a cruiser, for those who aren't familiar) Very good cosmetic condition Runs perfectly Chrome pipes Passenger backrest Lots of tread on tires $800 firm I bought this bike from my neighbor recently, since he was moving and needed to get rid of it fast. I figured I'd use it as a commuter bike or sell it on and get my money back. It's become clear that my VTR is just as good at commuting. I also can't really justify owning two bikes now that my finances are tight, so she goes up on the block. Hopefully someone can buy this to get a newbie into bikes or give it a good home in some other way. Please Email or call at 703-786-3286 if interested. Bike is in Arlington, but I'm sure I could find a way to deliver it if in the metro DC area. Cheers, Chris Weaver '98 Honda VTR '86 Kwak LTD From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 10:10:18 2000 X-Sender: dreamer%abac.com@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 10:09:57 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Dawn G.T. Gibson" Subject: 1996 Yamaha Virago 1100 Special for sale For Sale 1996 Yamaha Virago 1100 Special This is a striking motorcycle with thousands of dollars worth of custom accessories! I am the bike's second owner. The first owner purchased it brand new in 1997and put only 5000 miles on it. I purchased it in 1998 but did not ride it until last year. The mileage is now 15,300. I have all service records and receipts as well as the owner's manual and a Clymer manual for the bike. The bike has just been through Virginia inspection and undergone a full servicing by Cycle Sport in Springfield. It has been garage kept in Dumfries and lovingly detailed. This bike is perfect for those who need a powerful bike with a lower seat height. The Mustang seat is very comfortable. I've put as much as 700 miles on it in a day without any discomfort at all. I've been very happy with its performance and dependability. I'm moving on to a new Vulcan 1500 Classic, which gives you the opportunity to own this exceptional motorcycle. Don't miss the chance! What follows is a description of the bike and extras but this bike must be seen to be truly appreciated. Additional pictures can been viewed at http://users.abac.com/dreamer/virago.htm. - 1996 Yamaha Virago 1100 Special - black and white with silver trim. - 1100cc air cooled Vtwin -Double disk front brakes, drum brake in the rear - Dunlop tires, front and rear - Aluminum wheels - Brand new long life battery - Studded leather tank bra - Studded leather mud flap - Studded custom seat by Mustang (original seat included) - Windshield - Custom hard bags from Champion Sidecars in California., fully lined with chrome latch with key - Custom cruise control - Chrome light bar with headlight visor - Chrome side covers (original covers included) - Chrome sissy bar with pad to match the mustang seat - Chrome engine guards - Chrome highway pegs - Chrome shock covers - Chrome rear brake cover - Chrome horn covers - Chrome oil cap - Chrome rear turn signals with visors - Inspection sticker plate Price: $6500.00 Email dreamer@XXXXXX or call me (Dawn) at 703-578-4282. Leave message if I'm not there and I'll get back to you ASAP. *=====================================================================* from the mist and shadows, like a memory of things to come.... to wander the paths of moonlight on water, in search of honesty, empathy, beaches at sunrise, mountains under stars and eyes to laugh back at mine... *=====================================================================* Dawn G.T. Gibson, dreamer@XXXXXX *=====================================================================* From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 10:30:34 2000 Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:30:27 -0400 From: "Chris " Reply-To: X-Sender: To: "List-dc cycles" Subject: Sidecars in Falls Church, VA, Memorial Day Parade X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e44EUbA18022 2000 Falls Church, VA, Memorial Day Parade Sidecarists are invited to participate in the 2000 Falls Church, VA, Memorial Day Parade. The parade starts at 2pm, Memorial Day (Monday, May 29). Falls Church is about 10 mi. due west of Washington, DC. We'll meet at noon at my house for lunch and visiting, then line up for the parade. We've ridden in the parade the last three years - last year we had five sidecars, and had a blast! We rode down the center of the 4-lane parade route, then rode in circles and figure-8's. Several drivers used the figure-8's as a great way to fly the car – much to the delight of the audience – we got a lot of cheers. We also carried along candy to toss to the kids – which also got a lot of cheers! Not far back was the fire department, who made frequent use of their sirens ... so here we are doing circles and figure-8's on a public street, flying the car, waving to the crowds, with sirens close behind us -- and everything's fine! All sidecars and sidecarists are welcome. Contact Chris Norloff at chris@XXXXXX. Please feel free to pass this along to any sidecar drivers you know. I'm sending this to riders I know, as well as others in the general area who may be interested. Look forward to seeing you, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 11:41:20 2000 X-Sender: harris@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:37:05 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Stephen Harris Subject: Re: New to list. At 10:27 PM 5/3/00 EDT, MEFRENCH1@XXXXXX wrote: >Hi everyone. My name is Michele. I'm relatively new to the area and am >looking for riding partners. I ride a Triumph Adventurer. Are there any >Triumph clubs in the area? The closest one I have found is up in >Pennsylvania. I also enjoy overnight rides. Any suggestions? Come out to the races @ Summit Point. About 80 minute ride from DC. Info at http://marrc.nova.org. You can cornerwork & be part of the action, or just hang out & watch. Lots of fun if you're into motorcycles. Camping encouraged. Lots of DC Cycles List folks up there. Next race weeked is in about a week on 5/13-14/2000. S Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 14:16:08 2000 Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 07:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: New Kriss modulator To: Bob Meyer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX --- Bob Meyer wrote: > At 08:12 AM 5/3/00 -0700, Tom Gimer wrote: > >Don't be too surprised if some DC cager tries to > >run you off the road for putting that anoying strobe > >light in their rear view mirror. Just being honest > >here. > > > > > When running a headlight modulator, I *always* (at > least when I don't > forget), switch it off or switch to low beam when > I'm close behind someone > in a cage. > > But when I switched from a bike with a modulator to > one without, I couldn't > believe how much more often I got cut off, had > people make left turns > across my path, etc. I'll take the risk of > offending a few people vs. not > being seen. Nice theory....but I'd rather not put a light on my bike which gives REALLY stupid cagers the idea that you're flashing them in an attempt to give them the right of way. If these things were foolproof, they'd be standard equipment....or at least a VERY popular aftermarket item (which they're not). -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 15:30:52 2000 Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 12:30:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Weaver Subject: Responses to FS: Kwak 454 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Please send any email responses to my "for sale" post to this address (chris_vtr@XXXXXX). The "I Love You" virus knocked my company's mail server out of whack. Thanks. Chris Weaver '98 VTR '86 LTD __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 15:31:01 2000 From: "Danny Thompson" To: "D.C. Cycles" Subject: Re: New to list. Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 15:31:33 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Michele, (and others) I'll second what Steve said. You will find many local riders and racers there. I will be there in a blue "T" shirt (marks me as a newbie to racing:) ) with a red SV w/ blue tail section. I'll probably have a black trailer behind a red 4Runner. You are welcome to come by, introduce yourself. My wife and maybe my daughter will be there Saturday. Stop by and say hello. (This goes for anyone of course) Danny '99 VFR (for sale) '99 SV (race bike, reason VFR is for sale) Warrenton, VA www.onewayracing.org Sponsored by: Shen Valley Trailers, www.shen-valley.com, 1-888-743-6825 Blalock Cycle, 540-347-4591 ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Harris To: Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: Re: New to list. > At 10:27 PM 5/3/00 EDT, MEFRENCH1@XXXXXX wrote: > >Hi everyone. My name is Michele. I'm relatively new to the area and am > >looking for riding partners. I ride a Triumph Adventurer. Are there any > >Triumph clubs in the area? The closest one I have found is up in > >Pennsylvania. I also enjoy overnight rides. Any suggestions? > > > Come out to the races @ Summit Point. About 80 minute ride from DC. Info > at http://marrc.nova.org. You can cornerwork & be part of the action, or > just hang out & watch. Lots of fun if you're into motorcycles. Camping > encouraged. Lots of DC Cycles List folks up there. > > Next race weeked is in about a week on 5/13-14/2000. > > S > > Need a motorcycle related phone number or address? > Try http://www.his.com/harris/shops.htm From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 16:53:24 2000 X-Sender: lisa@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 16:57:33 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Lisa Goddard Subject: Colleen? Colleen, Are you out there? I am interested in trying on an item I saw on your page. Shout back soem good times for you maybe this weekend? Lisa From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 18:04:56 2000 From: BryanRoach@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:04:41 EDT Subject: NON-MOTO: StarWars E1 Laserdisc To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Anyone here a movie buff / star wars fan that owns a laserdisc player? Since FOX didn't release the new StarWars movie in the US in digital format, I imported the Laserdisc from Japan. To make sure I got one (It's a limited edition, I'm told) I ordered it from a couple places and wound up with two copies. Anyone who is interested, I'll sell it for what I paid (including shipping) - $115. If not... I'll hold onto it for a while then see what I can get for it on eBay :) - Roach From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 18:32:51 2000 Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 18:32:28 -0400 From: zbig@XXXXXX To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Watch out for mail fraud.. Well, I had a subscription to cycle world. I decided to let it run and not to renw for whatever reason. I received last issue in April, and all is dandy. In march an outlet called "Dialamerica Marketing, Inc" called us twice, on two consecutive days, trying to sell renewal for this newspaper. My wife was taking calls - and as usually, declined the renwal and requested us to be removed from their database. Such request has to immediately respected by telemarketing company. Well, today i recived invoice from Dialamerica - for .... $35.91, for subscription to Cycle World, claiming that I am already receiving CW... well the fishy thing was that such invoice does not state for what period of time is this subscription. Smelling rat i called their support line, to be told that I reorderd this in March. Well, I directly declined payment, and told them that I will follw this up as an attempted mail fraud. Well, next was quick use of www.google.com and submitting a raport via on-line complaint form to FTC. http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/fraud.htm Bottom line - watch your mailbox for "Dialamerica Marketing, Inc" invoices. My experience is that they will try to send you an invoice, for goods/services you declined, and on top of it they do not adhere to telemarketing rules. _zjt -- ******************************************************************** Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 00' Blade C43 AMG - Silver Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 18:50:26 2000 Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 18:45:33 -0400 From: Bill Huson To: zbig@XXXXXX CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Watch out for mail fraud.. All the mags use subscription services, and ALL the subscription services BLOW GOATS! Even MCN, a great mag, but they sold thier soul to the devil. I renew, and the very next month and every month after that I get "Last Chance! Renew now!" crap from the subscription service. Screw them all. This year I'm letting them all expire. Bill zbig@XXXXXX wrote: > Well, I had a subscription to cycle world. I decided to let it run and > not to renw for whatever reason. I received last issue in April, and > all is dandy. > > In march an outlet called "Dialamerica Marketing, Inc" called us > twice, on two consecutive days, trying to sell renewal for this > newspaper. My wife was taking calls - and as usually, declined the > renwal and requested us to be removed from their database. Such > request has to immediately respected by telemarketing company. > > Well, today i recived invoice from Dialamerica - for .... $35.91, > for subscription to Cycle World, claiming that I am already receiving > CW... > > well the fishy thing was that such invoice does not state for what > period of time is this subscription. Smelling rat i called their > support line, to be told that I reorderd this in March. Well, I > directly declined payment, and told them that I will follw this up as > an attempted mail fraud. Well, next was quick use of www.google.com > and submitting a raport via on-line complaint form to FTC. > > http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/fraud.htm > > Bottom line - watch your mailbox for "Dialamerica Marketing, Inc" > invoices. My experience is that they will try to send you an invoice, > for goods/services you declined, and on top of it they do not adhere > to telemarketing rules. > > _zjt > -- > ******************************************************************** > Zbigniew J. Tyrlik DoD# 0759 00' Blade C43 AMG - Silver > Free thinker, traveller, poet, happy father and husband.... From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 20:22:21 2000 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Tom Gimer Cc: Bob Meyer , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: New Kriss modulator Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 03:25:52 GMT X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e450MWA27357 |>Nice theory....but I'd rather not put a light on my |>bike which gives REALLY stupid cagers the idea that |>you're flashing them in an attempt to give them the |>right of way. If these things were foolproof, they'd |>be standard equipment....or at least a VERY popular |>aftermarket item (which they're not). Personally, i'd like a non emergency vehicle color, such as green in the light. I've seen some type of strobe bulb inserted into the reflective portion of the headlight housing. I would like blue actually, or red.. but i don't want a ticket. Green will probably get a ticket too though I might go ahead and go with the blue, and just use it when traffic is heavy... which is the same as when I use my high beam. twice in two days i've seen BDC's go into a left turn lane at an intersection realize it wasn't their turn then just pop back out into the road without looking, even though they've slowed down and the traffic they just left didn't. I know a guy who has a blue strobe light in his wheel well. It grabs attention, and I'd wager he's less likely to be rear ended. I personally would like something similiar on the front end of my bike (also) ... but of course I dont' want a ticket. That's one of the reasons i have the tail light cover off of my bike. I'll let the white bulb light catch someone's eye at night. it's not just another lit tag and brake light to blend in. I have to admit though. I've seen a dual headlight bike where the left and right bulbs took turns flashing and there was a small blue high intensity strobe in the middle. It looked pretty neat, and was eye catching. I hate it when bikers ride with highbeam on at night though. on a bright sunny day, OK it's not that bad. at night, hey i need to see back there and your'e pissing off cars in front of you. I woudlnt' want a high beam modulator. Daniel From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 22:09:14 2000 From: "Genna Melamed" To: , "DC CYCLE CLUB" Subject: Arai helmets Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 22:09:09 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01BFB615.5F0BA3B0 Hi, Anyone knows a good(read inexpensive) place to buy an Arai? RX-7RR3 = preferred, or RX-7RR4 Thanks Genna Melamed ------=_NextPart_000_0065_01BFB615.5F0BA3B0
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------=_NextPart_000_0065_01BFB615.5F0BA3B0-- From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 23:13:42 2000 Reply-To: From: "RMeyer" To: , Subject: RE: Watch out for mail fraud.. Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 23:13:50 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/fraud.htm > > Bottom line - watch your mailbox for "Dialamerica Marketing, Inc" > invoices. My experience is that they will try to send you an invoice, > for goods/services you declined, and on top of it they do not adhere > to telemarketing rules. > Since they are using the mail, you should file a complaint with the USPS, too. They won't bother with one complaint, but if they start getting a lot they will investigate. In the wind, Bob Meyer 1992 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ============================================= People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 23:13:40 2000 Reply-To: From: "RMeyer" To: "Tom Gimer" , Subject: RE: New Kriss modulator Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 23:13:49 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > > > > But when I switched from a bike with a modulator to > > one without, I couldn't > > believe how much more often I got cut off, had > > people make left turns > > across my path, etc. I'll take the risk of > > offending a few people vs. not > > being seen. > > Nice theory....but I'd rather not put a light on my > bike which gives REALLY stupid cagers the idea that > you're flashing them in an attempt to give them the > right of way. If these things were foolproof, they'd > be standard equipment....or at least a VERY popular > aftermarket item (which they're not). > Well, I never said they were foolproof, but as for their effectiveness, it's not theory. EVERYONE I've ever talked to who used one says the same thing, and my experience says the same thing. People NOTICE these damn things. Especially with the proliferation of daylight running lights on cars, M/C low beams are just lost in the noise, and M/C highbeams aren't much better. The physiological aspect is more than theory, too. The human brain, for some reason, is hard wired into this frequency. It's impossible for a non-blind human to NOT see a light flickering at this rate. Even with highbeams on (in daytime), I've found it not at all unusual to have people pull out in front of me. With a modulator, if flat doesn't happen. If people really though I was giving them the right of way, I'd expect to get cut off at least as often, if not more often. And I think it would take a REAL stupid cager to mistake this for someone blinking the high beams. They flicker 240 times a minute. It looks more like something's wrong with the bike's electrics than it does like someone flashing the high beams. Your argument that they'd be standard if they worked doesn't hold water. Unless, of course, you think that ALL bikes come with good loud horns, decent head and tail lights, the best tires and brakes available, etc, etc. Manufacturers include those items that fit within a target price and add to the perceived value of the bike. Horns aren't sexy or fast, so they don't count. Honda puts wimpy 45/45 watt headlight bulbs in their bikes, and many taillights are all but invisible in daylight. Some bikes still come with single front disc brakes and rear drums. As far as aftermarket, how many loud horns do you think get sold compared to "carbon" exhaust systems, rear fender eliminators, tank bras, etc. Bikers buy style and performance, not safety. Just look at the number of squids you see riding Goof 4s, R6s and the like in t-shirts, shorts and tennis shoes. You think these guys are interested in safety? Safety may sell automobiles, but it sure doesn't sell motorcycles. Finally, headlight modulators have been around for about 20 years. In all that time I've heard of many accidents where some cager cuts off a bike and says "I didn't see him, officer." I've never heard of an accident where the cager said "I thought he was flashing me to go ahead." In the wind, Bob Meyer 1992 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ============================================= People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 23:13:59 2000 Reply-To: From: "RMeyer" To: , "Tom Gimer" Cc: "Bob Meyer" , Subject: RE: New Kriss modulator Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 23:13:50 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > -----Original Message----- > From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX [mailto:daniel_ex250@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 11:26 PM > To: Tom Gimer > Cc: Bob Meyer; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: New Kriss modulator > > > |>Nice theory....but I'd rather not put a light on my > |>bike which gives REALLY stupid cagers the idea that > |>you're flashing them in an attempt to give them the > |>right of way. If these things were foolproof, they'd > |>be standard equipment....or at least a VERY popular > |>aftermarket item (which they're not). > > Personally, i'd like a non emergency vehicle color, such as green in > the light. I've seen some type of strobe bulb inserted into the > reflective portion of the headlight housing. There is a device which fits over the headlight bulb, inside the housing (not sure exactly how this works or affects the beam pattern) that creates a rainbow effect. Saw one on a Hardly once, and it was quite distinctive. Sport Touring Accessories ( http://www.sporttouringusa.com/ ) used to sell them. Not sure if they still do. In the wind, Bob Meyer 1992 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ============================================= People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. > From dc-cycles-request Thu May 4 23:36:10 2000 X-Sender: tech3047@XXXXXX Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 23:29:22 -0400 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "wes 8-)#" Subject: Re: Arai helmets Seeing as how there's really no inexpensive Arai RX-7RR3 or 4 to be bought, you could try www.helmetshop.com -- they have the best prices I've seen in a while. 3's at $400, 4's a little more (plain colors). --w At 22:09 04-05-00, you wrote: >Hi, > >Anyone knows a good(read inexpensive) place to buy an Arai? RX-7RR3 >preferred, or RX-7RR4 > >Thanks > > >Genna Melamed From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 07:04:44 2000 From: rcrishoc@XXXXXX X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, MEFRENCH1@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 07:02:26 -0400 Subject: RE: New to list Content-Disposition: inline Michele, Pennsylvania is OK... if you like potholes. ;) Just kidding. I'm from Pa. There are plenty of fine folks to ride with on this list, and on the "dc area riders" Yahoo club. If you want Brit specific, the Virginia British Motorcycle Club is a cool outfit. They are mostly clustered around Richmond, but there are a few of us scattered about NOVA, and they do have some things in other areas. Check them out at... http://fullspeed.to/VBMC/ A few of us VBMCers are going to ride as a group up to British Motorcycle Day on May 21st. If you would like to join us, let me know. The Nation's Capital Norton Owners also have a great club. You must own a Norton (or, at the very least, a box of Norton parts) to join, but you can ride and hang out with them even if you're not a member. However, doing that more than a couple times will make you want to buy a Norton. They are at... http://users.starpower.net/ncno/ HTH, Rich '78 Triumph Bonneville '99 Enfield Bullet '65 Norton Atlas cafe racer [soon to be Triton] project http://users.starpower.net/eboc/ Sterling Michele wrote... >I'm relatively new to the area and am looking for riding partners. I ride a Triumph >Adventurer. Are there any Triumph clubs in the area? The closest one I have found >is up in Pennsylvania. I also enjoy overnight rides. Any suggestions? From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 08:37:43 2000 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'dave@XXXXXX'" Cc: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: MC parking in Bethesda Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:37:29 -0400 David Cross complained, "The garage in which I park my motorcycle at work is going to be shut down for 3 months for repairs. Anyone know of free/cheap parking in the Bethesda area, as close to Cordell Ave as possible?" There's some free parking on Wilson where Cordell terminates. Dunno if there is a time restriction on those spaces tho. Upstairs at the lot just north of Rugby, west of Woodmont, all day parking is pretty reasonable (2-4 bits and hour). Merryland and Virginny haven't seen fit to provide MC parking as DC has. Mason Dixon 20-20 Rally: Dang, I'll be fetching the kid's junk from Chicago. Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 08:52:58 2000 From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" , "'daniel_ex250@XXXXXX'" Subject: shipping a bike & subscriptions Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:52:49 -0400 Daniel wondered, "anyone know how much it would cost, and how to go about, shipping a bike to wayne indiana?" 1-800-747-4100. Ask for Brad. Federal Allied picks up your bike anywhere and delivers anywhere. It's shipped on a special bike pallet in a truck modified especially to ship large, fragile, expensive objects. Give them originating and destination zip codes and they'll give you an instant quote. Look at $500 coast to coast. Shipping from and to a commercial establishment (even a corner store or station) knocks off a few bucks. They quoted ~$200 from Cincinnati to Bethesda. Bill Huson ranted, "ALL the subscription services BLOW GOATS! Even MCN, a great mag, but they sold their soul to the devil." Aye, that why I let my MCN subscription lapse. Wrote them a letter detailing my complaints. Received no response -- except periodic invites to subscribe from Boulder, Colorado. Same folks who screwed my Popular Science sub long ago. Postage free replies offer a channel for relief as do 800 numbers from spammers ;^> Carl in Bethesda This expresses my personal views. All care and due diligence has been take in its composition and I fully believe it to be correct, but then I think water is wet, so who am I to judge. Commuting into your nation's capital since 1981 through rain, sun, and snow, but no ice! '85 VF700S "Rocin-ahorito"; '84 VF700S (to de determined); '80 GS450E "Caballoante" (RIP); 1997 AeroStich Roadcrafter "Fred the Red"; FOM #3, AMA 676120; FOO/FOP; OGM #008; FMOENMC #0002 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 09:06:32 2000 From: "Dave Cross" To: Subject: Cages vs M/Cs Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:06:38 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 A recent discussion with a lister got me thinking about what kinds of stuff I would need to put in a letter to someone if I was trying to advocate M/C usage over cages. What I am looking for is a list of advantages of commuting by motorcycle and how commuting on a motorcycles is better for society/environment. Here is what I have so far: -Motorcycles use less fuel. -Motorcycles produce less poluting emissions. -Motorcycles cause less wear on road surfaces saving tax payers money. -Motorcycles take up less parking space than automobiles. -You can fit more motorcycles in a given space on the highway than automobiles, thus reducing traffic congesstion. I am sure I am missing a lot. What else? Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 09:17:35 2000 From: "Weaver, Chris_(MD)" To: "'wes 8-)#'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Arai helmets Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:09:47 -0400 I agree. I just bought a solid-color Signet/GT and paid $300. It was by far the cheapest place I found, and I did quite a bit of searching, both online and in local shops. Their service was nothing short of fantastic. The helmet showed up in (as I recall) three business days, and the Helmet Shop sent me an online tracking number so that I could view the package's progress as it made its way north from Florida. Only drawback is that they require a signature (by you or a neighbor, in person) to drop the package off at your place or you have to specify a "customer counter" center to pick it up. The extra security was worth the minor hassle IMO. Chris Weaver '98 VTR > -----Original Message----- > From: wes 8-)# [SMTP:wes@XXXXXX] > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 11:29 PM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Arai helmets > > Seeing as how there's really no inexpensive Arai RX-7RR3 or 4 to be > bought, > you could try www.helmetshop.com -- they have the best prices I've seen in > > a while. 3's at $400, 4's a little more (plain colors). > > --w > > At 22:09 04-05-00, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Anyone knows a good(read inexpensive) place to buy an Arai? RX-7RR3 > >preferred, or RX-7RR4 > > > >Thanks > > > > > >Genna Melamed From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 09:26:08 2000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 06:25:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs To: Dave Cross , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Be careful about arguing your points. Some of them could be reasonably debated for the other side. Additional comments below. Leon. no car. --- Dave Cross wrote: > -Motorcycles use less fuel. > -Motorcycles produce less poluting emissions. Only the expensive new motorcycles with Catalytic converters and fuel injection produce less emissions. Cars have really been cleaned up in the last 20 years or so. > -Motorcycles cause less wear on road surfaces saving > tax payers money. But we are involved in 3 times as many accidents. > -Motorcycles take up less parking space than > automobiles. > -You can fit more motorcycles in a given space on > the highway than > automobiles, thus reducing traffic congesstion. > > I am sure I am missing a lot. What else? > > Dave Cross > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 09:27:03 2000 X-Sender: mtroutma@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:26:53 -0400 To: From: Troutman Subject: PAGING DAVE CROSS - MAIL ERROR FYI Dave - your domain / mail / account is screwy.... ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail.9netave.com.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 551 no such user on our server 550 ... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; www.zen-data.com Received-From-MTA: DNS; vulture Arrival-Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 09:22:45 -0400 ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org There are three types of people in this world. Those who can count and those who can't. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 09:35:00 2000 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:34:13 -0400 From: Dave Yates X-Accept-Language: en CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs Dave Cross wrote: ,,,What I am looking for is a list of advantages of commuting by motorcycle and how commuting on a motorcycles is better for society/environment. How about : - Motorcycles are more fun. - *trained* Motorcycle operators are *generally* better riders/drivers. - it's real hard to yak on the cell phone while riding. - it's hard(er) to do a drive by shooting with a motorcycle. - it's hard(er) to hide contraband on a motorcycle. - Motorcycles save time (traffic flows slower as cages get closer & closer together. as following distance decreases, so does average speed) Since - motorcycles are smaller, & congestion would be less with only bikes, you'd save time :-) - *apologies in advance to the female listers* like my wife says 'Chicks dig bikers' :-) - Better for the economy? - State of the art motorcycles can be had for less than $13k, less state / property tax, so there's more money available for discretionary expenditures. good luck. -- 'Nitrous. It's not just for dentists anymore' Dave Yates '97 Cobra #5148 /'90 ZX11'Acceleratus Maximus' SCOA #1042 / SCMC #265 / NMA / AMA http://www.radix.net/~sdave/ Systems Programmer (301) 496-3760 From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 09:44:04 2000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 06:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Glenn Dysart Reply-To: dysart@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs To: Dave Cross Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX OK, I can't believe we are getting into this one again... Here are m views: --- Dave Cross wrote: > > Here is what I have so far: > > -Motorcycles use less fuel. Not completely true any more. Some cars like the Honda Civic HF (High Fuel) get in the neighborhood of 45 MPG. That's right up there with a bike. Of course this is only one model of car and only a handful of cars do this. > -Motorcycles produce less poluting emissions. Are you sure about this one? How many bikes have catalatic converters on them? Only a couple I can think of. Cars have very strict emissions compared to bikes. > -Motorcycles cause less wear on road surfaces saving > tax payers money. Probably true but cars do very little damage to roads anyway. Large trucks, buses, etc do 90% of the damage to roads. Take a look at roads like I-66 inside the Beltway that don't allow trucks, I can't think of one pothole (on the VA side). > -Motorcycles take up less parking space than > automobiles. Agreed. > -You can fit more motorcycles in a given space on > the highway than > automobiles, thus reducing traffic congesstion. Probably true also. Glenn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 09:47:48 2000 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 09:48:15 -0400 From: Randy Moran X-Accept-Language: en To: Dave Cross CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs Hey Dave, It's a worthy cause and an admirable effort, but you might want to do some checking on the "less pollution" part. I think I read somewhere that bikes are actually dirtier because most of them have less effective emmisions apparatus than that found on cars. Some exceptions are the late model BMWs whch have catalytic converters and the Yamaha GTS1000, I believe, maybe some others. I'm not sure about the California models in relation to cars. Maybe you could make the emmissions arguement *based* on lower use of fuel. Anyway, I could be all wet on this but I thought you should have a heads up. Randy Moran WERA Novice #696 http://www.geocities.com/rajmoran/ Sponsored by: Whitt's Suzuki of Manassas, VA http://www.speed-werks.com http://www.cortidesign.com Dave Cross wrote, in part: > What I am looking for is a list of advantages of commuting by motorcycle and > how commuting on a motorcycle is better for society/environment. > > Here is what I have so far: > > -Motorcycles use less fuel. > -Motorcycles produce less poluting emissions. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 10:09:08 2000 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 10:05 -0400 From: "Tom Zell" To: "MEFRENCH1@XXXXXX" , "dc-cycles@XXXXXX" Subject: Re:New to list. Jeannette and I like to ride whenever we have the chance (which hasn't been too often here lately). We're over in Arlington so if you feel like going for a ride give us a shout the day before you wanna go. Home addy is zellto@XXXXXX . Tom '86 VFR750 ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: New to list. Author: MEFRENCH1@XXXXXX Date: 05/03/2000 10:27 PM Hi everyone. My name is Michele. I'm relatively new to the area and am looking for riding partners. I ride a Triumph Adventurer. Are there any Triumph clubs in the area? The closest one I have found is up in Pennsylvania. I also enjoy overnight rides. Any suggestions? From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 10:16:09 2000 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 10:15:52 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: Dave Cross CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs Dave Cross wrote: > > Here is what I have so far: > > -Motorcycles use less fuel. > -Motorcycles produce less poluting emissions. > -Motorcycles cause less wear on road surfaces saving tax payers money. > -Motorcycles take up less parking space than automobiles. > -You can fit more motorcycles in a given space on the highway than > automobiles, thus reducing traffic congesstion. > > I am sure I am missing a lot. What else? > > Dave Cross You missed one... - Cars Suck! :) Horkster From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 10:35:07 2000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 07:34:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Hugh Caldwell To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs On Fri, 5 May 2000, Dave Crss wrote: > > I am sure I am missing a lot. What else? > You forgot the two most important ones. 1. Cars suck. 2. Driving makes you stupid. The more you drive the stupider you get! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek Simpleton#9 ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 11:25:02 2000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:24:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs Organization: Northern Virginia Internet Access Cooperative On Fri, 5 May 2000, Leon Begeman wrote: > --- Dave Cross wrote: > > -Motorcycles use less fuel. My bike does 30mpg. :( This is not a focus at all for MC manufacturers. Bikes are recreational so there's not point in looking at fuel economy... :( > But we are involved in 3 times as many accidents. Wow, that sucks... What is your goal in collecting such a list? Kirk 2000 Kawasaki KLX300 (http://planetklx.dirtrider.net) 1998 Honda VTR1000 (http://members.nova.org/~kirk/Kirk1.jpg) From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 11:39:23 2000 Reply-To: From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: "'DC CYCLE CLUB'" Subject: RE: Arai helmets Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 11:34:28 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BFB685.DFF452E0 I was just talking to Cycle Accessory Warehouse in Gaithersburg about getting a new Shoei and the guy mentioned having some Arai's on sale, but I didn't get the model numbers. I do know their prices can positively embarrass Coleman's (forgot the new name), but don't know how they compare to the web. 301-977-7188. Cedric Hi, Anyone knows a good(read inexpensive) place to buy an Arai? RX-7RR3 preferred, or RX-7RR4 Thanks Genna Melamed ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BFB685.DFF452E0
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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BFB685.DFF452E0-- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 11:53:35 2000 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: Cc: "Tom Gimer" , Subject: Re: New Kriss modulator Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 18:57:05 GMT X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e45FrbA11659 |>blinking the high beams. They flicker 240 times a minute. It looks more |>like something's wrong with the bike's electrics than it does like someone |>flashing the high beams. Oooh 240 times a minute. That does sound attention grabbing, without it causing confusion in granting right of way. |>Your argument that they'd be standard if they worked doesn't hold water. Yep you pretty much disected that one. Good points. You should be a salesman for them, you make me want to buy one hehe. Daniel From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 12:04:42 2000 From: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX To: "Dave Cross" Cc: Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 19:08:13 GMT X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dirty.meretrix.com id e45G4jA11797 I dunno if it's been said, but motorcycles are far easier to clear off the roadway. not causing a traffic jam, and easy to move for emergency vehicles to get by. motorcylcists are more attentive drivers, unlike the make up applying cell phone talking air heads out there. motorcycles also cause less damage to surrounding dwelings/people when they have an accident. daniel love riders From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 12:48:08 2000 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 12:47:56 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX CC: Dave Cross , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs daniel_ex250@XXXXXX wrote: > > motorcylcists are more attentive drivers, unlike the make up applying > cell phone talking air heads out there. You forgot the book-reading air heads. One pulled up next to me in traffic on the way home last night. She had a little paperback right in the middle of the steering wheel. What was really scary was that we just exited the Fairfax County parkway where we were just doing 60+ mph. I hope she wasn't reading then, but I can't be sure. Scary! -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 13:23:29 2000 X-Sender: RMEYER@XXXXXX Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:18:34 -0400 To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX From: Bob Meyer Subject: Re: New Kriss modulator Cc: "Tom Gimer" , At 06:57 PM 5/5/00 GMT, daniel_ex250@XXXXXX wrote: >|>blinking the high beams. They flicker 240 times a minute. It looks more >|>like something's wrong with the bike's electrics than it does like someone >|>flashing the high beams. > >Oooh 240 times a minute. That does sound attention grabbing, without >it causing confusion in granting right of way. > >|>Your argument that they'd be standard if they worked doesn't hold water. > >Yep you pretty much disected that one. Good points. You should be a >salesman for them, you make me want to buy one hehe. I probably should have waited until I wasn't so tired before responding. I think now I came on a bit too strong. (Sorry Tom). I guess I don't care who uses what, but based on my experience I really do think they'd save lives, especially with all the cars that have their headlights on during the day. I bought the first brand available back around 1980 or '81. If memory serves, it was developed by a doctor who was both a biker and familiar with the way the brain locks into certain frequencies. The first day I put it on I noticed a difference in how cars perceived me. A few years later, that bike was seriously vandalized. I bought another as an "interim" bike, without a modulator, and couldn't believe how many idiots were cutting me off all of a sudden. It took me a couple of weeks before I realized I didn't have the modulator any more. Same thing happened a few years ago when I bought a Honda Hawk GT. I didn't ride it much, because of health reasons, so I never did get around to putting modulator on it. And I never felt as safe without it. Now I have a new (used) ST1100, and the Kriss is sitting in the garage waiting for me to find the time to put it in. OTOH, its NOT a force field. People can be oblivious, so you still need to pay attention. If it gives one a false sense of security, then I suppose it might be a bad thing. So I don't want to sound like a salesman, but mike experience ITW, Bob Meyer '92 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ===================================================== People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 13:35:13 2000 From: Mark Petty To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Cages vs M/Cs Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:32:37 -0400 Was this one of those fake jeep like things? White, I think? vanity tags? ya, she reads _all_ the way home. She's reading every time I see her. She makes up for it by driving about 5 mph under the flow of traffic, so people will go around her. -Mark btw, Dale, that was me following you through Clifton the other night. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dale Horstman [mailto:Horkster@XXXXXX] > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 3:48 PM > To: daniel_ex250@XXXXXX > Cc: Dave Cross; dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs > > > daniel_ex250@XXXXXX wrote: > > > > motorcylcists are more attentive drivers, unlike the make > up applying > > cell phone talking air heads out there. > > You forgot the book-reading air heads. One pulled up next > to me in traffic on the way home last night. She had a > little paperback right in the middle of the steering wheel. > > What was really scary was that we just exited the Fairfax > County parkway where we were just doing 60+ mph. I hope > she wasn't reading then, but I can't be sure. Scary! > > -- > Dale Horstman (the Horkster) > horkster@XXXXXX > Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth > > 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer > 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi > From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 13:48:41 2000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:48:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: RE: New Kriss modulator To: rmeyer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX I honestly can't argue with any of this. Damn....who'da thought there was edjumacated folks on this list! You may have actually convinced me to look into one of these things. I'd rather not become a hord ornament either. Question: can you turn it off when you're riding in a group? --- RMeyer wrote: > Well, I never said they were foolproof, but as for > their effectiveness, it's > not theory. EVERYONE I've ever talked to who used > one says the same thing, > and my experience says the same thing. People > NOTICE these damn things. > Especially with the proliferation of daylight > running lights on cars, M/C > low beams are just lost in the noise, and M/C > highbeams aren't much better. > > The physiological aspect is more than theory, too. > The human brain, for > some reason, is hard wired into this frequency. > It's impossible for a > non-blind human to NOT see a light flickering at > this rate. Even with > highbeams on (in daytime), I've found it not at all > unusual to have people > pull out in front of me. With a modulator, if flat > doesn't happen. If > people really though I was giving them the right of > way, I'd expect to get > cut off at least as often, if not more often. > > And I think it would take a REAL stupid cager to > mistake this for someone > blinking the high beams. They flicker 240 times a > minute. It looks more > like something's wrong with the bike's electrics > than it does like someone > flashing the high beams. > > Your argument that they'd be standard if they worked > doesn't hold water. > Unless, of course, you think that ALL bikes come > with good loud horns, > decent head and tail lights, the best tires and > brakes available, etc, etc. > Manufacturers include those items that fit within a > target price and add to > the perceived value of the bike. Horns aren't sexy > or fast, so they don't > count. Honda puts wimpy 45/45 watt headlight bulbs > in their bikes, and many > taillights are all but invisible in daylight. Some > bikes still come with > single front disc brakes and rear drums. As far as > aftermarket, how many > loud horns do you think get sold compared to > "carbon" exhaust systems, rear > fender eliminators, tank bras, etc. Bikers buy > style and performance, not > safety. Just look at the number of squids you see > riding Goof 4s, R6s and > the like in t-shirts, shorts and tennis shoes. You > think these guys are > interested in safety? Safety may sell automobiles, > but it sure doesn't sell > motorcycles. > > Finally, headlight modulators have been around for > about 20 years. In all > that time I've heard of many accidents where some > cager cuts off a bike and > says "I didn't see him, officer." I've never heard > of an accident where the > cager said "I thought he was flashing me to go > ahead." > > In the wind, > Bob Meyer > 1992 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 > ============================================= > People are more violently opposed to fur than > leather, because it's safer to > pick on rich women than biker gangs. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 13:58:35 2000 Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 13:58:20 -0700 From: Dale Horstman X-Accept-Language: en To: Mark Petty CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs Mark Petty wrote: > ya, she reads _all_ the way home. > She makes up for it by driving about 5 mph under the flow of traffic, > so people will go around her. I was thinking it was a car, but now I'm wondering. I was so shocked by her callous disregard for human life that I didn't even notice the cage that much. > btw, Dale, that was me following you through Clifton the other night. I thought that was you! That commute through Clifton is pretty cool if you catch the traffic just right. :) -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia, USA, Earth 1998 Kawasaki Concours - His - BugSlayer 1999 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - Grape Nehi From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 15:28:32 2000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 15:28:28 -0400 From: "Chris " Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Dale Horstman CC: Subject: Re: Cages vs M/Cs ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Dale Horstman >You forgot the book-reading air heads. One pulled up next >to me in traffic on the way home last night. She had a >little paperback right in the middle of the steering wheel. > >What was really scary was that we just exited the Fairfax >County parkway where we were just doing 60+ mph. I hope >she wasn't reading then, but I can't be sure. Scary! Next time, turn her in! Call 691-2131 to report aggressive drivers in Fairfax County (it doesn't matter where the car is tagged, but the incident must be in Fairfax County). They need the license tag no., the vehicle description, and preferably also a description of the driver. They'll send out a letter advising the car owner of what was observed. It might help! Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 16:07:44 2000 From: ursulina viteri X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 16:07:18 -0400 Subject: Any good motorcycle clip art sites? TO: dc-cycles@XXXXXX --openmail-part-1570ba5e-00000001 Content-Disposition: inline Hello, Does anyone know of any interesting motorcycle clip art sites? - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD --openmail-part-1570ba5e-00000001-- From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 17:11:42 2000 Reply-To: From: "Cedric Bernescut" To: Subject: RE: Any good motorcycle clip art sites? Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:06:50 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 http://www.autos-cars-new-used.com/cycle.html http://www.wendys-world.co.uk/clipart/bike/index.htm http://www.packofbastards.com/art1.htm http://www.hayden.edu/~fmattox/clipart/clipart.html http://webclipart.about.com/internet/webclipart/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site= http://www.coolarchive.com/icons.cfm%3Fparameter=mcycle%26number=14%26width= 32%26height=32 http://webclipart.about.com/internet/webclipart/msub20.htm?rnk=r&terms=motor cycle Hope this helps, Cedric "Officer, I see you found the virus author, and don't worry, I'll buy you a new nightstick." Hello, Does anyone know of any interesting motorcycle clip art sites? - - Ursulina 1988 Kawasaki 454 LTD From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 17:19:09 2000 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Subject: Black market baby for SALE... Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:13:16 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 I'm selling my black '92 CB750. Particulars: - Black - Macadam x90s (not standard...better) - Corbin - Aftermarket handlebars - Bar-end mirrors - Oil every 3-5k miles (mobile 1- 15w/50) I also have the original bars/mirrors/seat. MCN/Kelly/N.A.D.A all hover around $2,600 retail. I want $2000 firm (reduced for mileage, increased for aftermarket). If you want, or know anyone who wants this baby email asap. I will be riding it over to the motorcycle night at the Carpool this Sunday evening, with a for sale sign hanging on it. Bike is in excellent mechanical condition and very good-excellent aesthetically. Thank you for your time. Todd Peer (Springfield, VA) <----------------------------------------> * '91 ST1100, '92 CB750, '94 XT350 * SS1k, FiTe V * IBA, AMA, HRCA, HSTA(7615), STOC(487) * 148,000 miles and counting <----------------------------------------> From dc-cycles-request Fri May 5 20:34:39 2000 From: "Brian McCoy" To: Subject: Helmets (again) Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 17:34:44 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Collin and I just posted this info not to long ago, but Duane Grifith (aloetran@XXXXXX or (318) 368-7266) of Dixie Cycles has been doing well by everyone that's delt with him. He's sent helmets to Collin next day air (for a race) without charging postage, sold me a new Arai Quantium for about $40 less than I could find anywhere else (I looked pretty hard) - as well as doing REALLY good deals on other gear too (Vanson Pro-Perf jacket for $350 - they retail for about $600)... Give him a call or drop an e-mail. If you mention my name (Brian McCoy) or Collin Fagan, he'll know where the recomendation came from and will pretty much make sure you get the best deal possible (otherwise he's going to make his normal, small, profit). He's good for ANY kind of gear, boots, jackets, helmets, gloves, full suits, even tires and some accesories! I can't say enough good about him or the business he runs - only top notch. Cheers, Brian McCoy From dc-cycles-request Sat May 6 00:31:37 2000 From: "Bruce Norton" To: "Tom Gimer" , Subject: Re: New Kriss modulator Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:31:32 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Yep, it only flashes on high beam. I just helped Dillon put one on his new R1. Very cool. Also hooks up to the horn, when flashing at 240 beeping the horn slows the flashing rate down to make you even more noticable. Also has an infrared sensor which automatically stops it flashing at night. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Gimer" > You may have actually convinced me to look into one of > these things. I'd rather not become a hood ornament > either. Question: can you turn it off when you're > riding in a group? From dc-cycles-request Sat May 6 00:54:49 2000 From: "mobacc" To: Subject: Re: Kriss Modulator Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 00:54:12 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 A few quick comments re front lighting -- The Kriss has wires that can be handlebar-switched for deactivation (as in group riding). And there is a sensor attached, to be exposed to ambient light, which deactivates at night. I heard of two other headlight extras which I looked at a couple of days ago at Battleys. They are promoting superwhite PIAA? bulbs that shine much brighter for standard abt50 voltage draws -- in the $55 range. And they have a "rainbow" apparatus which fits around the bulb that apparently adds very visible color to the headlight, while being legal, for about $30. I don't think I've seen either of these in operation and would be interested in comments. Bill S. / DC 99 VN750 -- blinking at oncoming. Join the AMA. Help protect my riding fun. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 6 02:25:53 2000 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 23:25:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ryan S. McClune" Subject: Re: Ride, Squids and Accidents (not mine) on 211 To: "'DC Cycles'" Cc: "'David Forbes'" , "'Brian Walker'" >From a rider who will not ride again I have to agree. It is up to the rider to ride at his own level. The last thing I want to see happen is people fearful of group rides because they may have to explain why another rider went down. --- Tom Gimer wrote: > > > > > You're guessing what happened, yet still placing > blame? Please. This is a dangerous sport, you ride __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Sat May 6 09:01:30 2000 From: MJordan666@XXXXXX Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 09:01:15 EDT Subject: Re: Kriss Modulator To: DC-cycles@XXXXXX > The Kriss has wires that can be handlebar-switched for deactivation (as in > group riding). An even simpler method is to switch to low beam... Michael J. From dc-cycles-request Sat May 6 21:04:59 2000 From: "Todd Peer" To: "DC-Cycles" Cc: Subject: Not Riding and Squids Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 20:59:12 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 23:25:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ryan S. McClune" Subject: Re: Ride, Squids and Accidents (not mine) on 211 To: "'DC Cycles'" Cc: "'David Forbes'" , "'Brian Walker'" >From a rider who will not ride again I have to agree. It is up to the rider to ride at his own level. The last thing I want to see happen is people fearful of group rides because they may have to explain why another rider went down. ---------------------------------------------------- Gee Ryan, I sure hope you haven't decided to stop riding for a physiological reason. From reports, you will be doing fine (over time). And from what I've hear from Tom and Collin, You are an exceptional rider. Hate to see good riders with smarts leave the sport, but I've never been where you are. Hope all is well. Todd Peer (Springfield, VA) <----------------------------------------> * '91 ST1100, '92 CB750, '94 XT350 * SS1k, FiTe V * IBA, AMA, HRCA, HSTA(7615), STOC(487) * 148,000 miles and counting <----------------------------------------> From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 01:25:29 2000 Date: Sat, 6 May 2000 22:25:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Collin T. Fagan" Subject: Re: Helmets (again) To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Ditto what Brian said... Duane and his family (William and Yvonne) have always treated me like I was a son.. and I've never met the folks in person. errr.... acutally brother for Duane since he's younger than me hehehe but all the same.... Good folks, great prices... Just got another new Bell helmet from em a couple of weeks ago. Collin ===== Collin T. Fagan DC-Cycles Racing http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Track/9350/ Proudly sponsored by: Fast Lane Cycles (www.fastlanecycles.com) Dixie Cycles Bell Helmets, and EBC Brakes __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 01:41:01 2000 X-Originating-IP: [63.23.102.200] From: "Razz Man" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: FS: '86 Kawasaki 454 LTD Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 01:40:52 EDT Well, I sold my 77 KZ650 a little over a month ago. I guess I just MUST have 3 bikes, or maybe this was just to good of a deal to pass up. This bike was everthing Chris said it was, and more. I am now the proud owner of an '86 LTD454. Thanks Chris!! Now, I must decide on a bike to drive to "Car Pool" tonight. hhhhmmmmm IF.. I get finished power washing the deck. ;-) Hope to see many of you tonight! Razz 99 ZX9R 83 LTD440 and the newest addition... 86 LTD454 > >For sale: > >1986 Kawasaki 454 LTD (It's a cruiser, for those who aren't familiar) >Very good cosmetic condition >Runs perfectly >Chrome pipes >Passenger backrest >Lots of tread on tires > >$800 firm > ><> > >Cheers, >Chris Weaver >'98 Honda VTR >'86 Kwak LTD ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 11:57:47 2000 Reply-To: "Ryn" From: "Ryn" To: Subject: Price Question Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 11:38:47 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Does anyone have a site on where you can find the value of a motorcycle?? I am curious what a '95 YZF in perfect condition is worth??? Thanks for any info, Ryan From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 12:10:35 2000 From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 12:10:20 EDT Subject: Re: Price Question To: desc@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Check out: www.kbb.com www.motorcycleworld.com You thinking of selling your bike? Rob From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 13:03:47 2000 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 12:43:09 -0400 (EDT) From: George Howell X-Sender: ghowell@XXXXXX To: Ryn cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Price Question On Sun, 7 May 2000, Ryn wrote: > Does anyone have a site on where you can find the value of a motorcycle?? I am > curious what a '95 YZF in perfect condition is worth??? www.kbb.com www.mcnews.com -- George Howell "I ride for the same reason dogs stick their head out ghowell@XXXXXX of car windows" georgehowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX echelon block: kiddie porn, overthrow government, militia, anarchy, guns, knives, violence, bomb, explosive, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Branch Davidian, 2nd amendment, vengeance, Mafia, Delta Force, CIA, FBI, NSA. Enjoy! From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 16:25:17 2000 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:24:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: m/c for Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX ---'98 Honda CBR900rr--- -Black/red tiger scheme -28k indicated miles (in reality just over 25k due to the gearing (15t/42t)) -Corbin seat -Factory Airbox Plus kit/jetted -Goodridge SS lines (front) -EBC rotors (front) -D207s -L/P windscreen -Valves checked out 3k miles ago -Golden Spectro blend every 3k or less -DID X-ring chain and sprockets replaced 3k miles ago This bike rocks....ask any mofo who has seen it or had the pleasure of breathing its exhaust fumes First $7500 takes it; will be in W.Post next week. I'll give $100 to anybody who refers eventual buyer to me. Thanks. -- tg __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 17:43:44 2000 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 14:43:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: m/c for Sale To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX BTW, my phone # is 301 437-3542 if you feel like discussing this bike or forwarding the number to potential buyers --- Tom Gimer wrote: > ---'98 Honda CBR900rr--- > -Black/red tiger scheme > -28k indicated miles (in reality just over 25k due > to > the gearing (15t/42t)) > -Corbin seat > -Factory Airbox Plus kit/jetted > -Goodridge SS lines (front) > -EBC rotors (front) > -D207s > -L/P windscreen > -Valves checked out 3k miles ago > -Golden Spectro blend every 3k or less > -DID X-ring chain and sprockets replaced 3k miles > ago > > This bike rocks....ask any mofo who has seen it or > had > the pleasure of breathing its exhaust fumes > > First $7500 takes it; will be in W.Post next week. > I'll give $100 to anybody who refers eventual buyer > to > me. Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 21:40:16 2000 Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 21:41:06 -0700 From: "Charles V. Pena" X-Accept-Language: en To: DC Cycles Subject: Thank you for making BIKE NIGHT a success! A note of thanks to everyone who showed up to make the first BIKE NIGHT at CarPool in Arlington, VA a huge success! We hope everyone enjoyed themselves as much as we did. We didn't do an actual bike count, but estimate that between 60-70 motorcycles of all types were there throughout the evening. Thanks to CarPool for hosting BIKE NIGHT and providing some motorcyle-only parking. Special thanks to the folks who donated all the door prizes: Coleman Powersport, Crossroads Cycles, and The Java Shack. We're going to do BIKE NIGHT again in June. As soon as we've picked a Sunday night in June, we'll let y'all know. Again, thanks to everyone. Chuck Pena and Mark Kitchell P.S. CarPool has already said they'll block off more parking just for motorcycles when we do BIKE NIGHT again. -- "Wherever you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Banzai visit us at http://www.geocities.com/the_penas From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 23:36:58 2000 From: "Bob Meyer" To: "Bruce Norton" , "Tom Gimer" , Subject: RE: New Kriss modulator Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:36:55 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 - > From: Bruce Norton [mailto:bnorton@XXXXXX]> > > Yep, it only flashes on high beam. I just helped Dillon put one > on his new R1. > Very cool. Also hooks up to the horn, when flashing at 240 > beeping the horn > slows the flashing rate down to make you even more noticable. Now this option I decided NOT to connect. Tom made me wonder if the slower flash rate might be mistaken for a signal to "go ahead." My older modulators seemed to attract enough attention without this option. In the wind, Bob Meyer 1992 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ============================================= People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 23:36:59 2000 From: "Bob Meyer" To: "mobacc" , Subject: RE: Kriss Modulator Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:36:57 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > From: mobacc [mailto:mobacc@XXXXXX] > > I heard of two other headlight extras which I looked at a couple > of days ago > at Battleys. They are promoting superwhite PIAA? bulbs that shine much > brighter for standard abt50 voltage draws -- in the $55 range. And they > have a "rainbow" apparatus which fits around the bulb that apparently adds > very visible color to the headlight, while being legal, for about $30. I > don't think I've seen either of these in operation and would be interested > in comments. I saw one of these rainbow things on a Hardley once. It did attract my attention, but only after I had seen the group of bikes already. A bigger problem may be that I don't see any way to turn in "off" at night. As for the superwhite bulbs, take a look at: http://lighting.mbz.org/tech/info/superwhites/ In the wind, Bob Meyer 1992 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ============================================= People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Sun May 7 23:37:03 2000 From: "Bob Meyer" To: "Tom Gimer" , , Subject: RE: New Kriss modulator Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:36:55 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 > > I honestly can't argue with any of this. > > Damn....who'da thought there was edjumacated folks on > this list! > > You may have actually convinced me to look into one of > these things. I'd rather not become a hord ornament > either. Question: can you turn it off when you're > riding in a group? The Kriss modulator *can* be connected so you can manually shut it off (it automatically shuts off when on low beam, btw, although you could wire it so it runs only in low beam if you wanted to, I guess. For some reason Kriss no longer includes instructions for manual override, but I e-mailed them and got a confirmation this still works: The yellow wire, which supplies +12v to the modulator circuit, can be run through a switch. 12v applied, modulator works. 12v off, and the headlights work normally. HTH. In the wind, Bob Meyer 1992 ST1100 (Red STag), STOC #1157 ============================================= People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's safer to pick on rich women than biker gangs. From dc-cycles-request Mon May 8 00:21:20 2000 X-Originating-IP: [165.247.89.177] From: "John Kozyn" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Carpool Forgetfulness Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 00:21:09 EDT Hey DC Guys & Gals, First I want to thank Chuck and Karen and Mark and Chris et al for organizing the Carpool Bike Night! It was great seeing so many bikes there, placing names to new faces, and seeing old faces again. I had to leave a bit early due to another engagement, but much to my chagrin, I did so without paying my tab! (two Wild Goose IPA's). An emissary did arrive later to intervene on my behalf - I'm no scofflaw ;) - but alas, our waitress indicated someone had already sprang for me. If that person would reply off-list (in order to spare me further embarrassment, not to mention all-important bandwidth ;), I'd be happy to settle accounts at their convenience. Thanks, JK 95 VFR D-Mode ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From dc-cycles-request Mon May 8 00:33:39 2000 From: "L4rite" To: Subject: urgent electrical problems... Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:39:34 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Hello folks......I have a lil electrical problem.......basically my bike "96' Katana 750", wont turn off....I can start it and ride it but when I turn off the key....the lights and such stay on as if it were waiting to be started........i can remove the key and turn it in all manners to no avail.... I just cleaned the carbs, air filter, replaced oil and filter and took the battery off of the tender....the bike has been sitting since early December "wintering over"....until around Tuesday of this week....well last night my roommate woke me up about 5 a.m. and told me that my lights were on on my bike and she thinks someone might have tried to steal it.....I unhooked the battery and checked it over....no signs of damage or trying to punch the key switch out......I had the tank and all of the body work off of the bike cleaning all the tubes, wiring, hoses and frame.....using a damp towel and then a rag with armor all on it.....no heavy jets of water or anything....well any when I went out to check the bike when the lights were on and such it was damp outside with a light dew and a bit of humidity in the air....could this be a short, maybe water got in something...?????......any Ideas as to what this might be....?????? 96 Kat750 Les From dc-cycles-request Mon May 8 09:18:09 2000 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 06:17:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Melted shoes on pipes To: DC-Cycles Yesterday I took a friend of mine for her first motorcycle ride. After riding for about 30 miles I pulled in at a gas station to see how she was doing. She was having a grand old ti