From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 01:50:19 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA27644 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:50:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id BAA03890 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:50:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from cap1.CapAccess.org (known cap1.CapAccess.org [151.200.199.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id BAA18816 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:50:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from garicao@localhost) by cap1.CapAccess.org (8.6.12/8.6.10) id BAA03306; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:51:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:50:58 -0500 (EST) From: Garcia Oliver To: NJitzul@XXXXXX cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Stator cover removal In-Reply-To: <3381965d.36d9d327@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII (1) Be sure all the cover bolts are removed: sometimes they're hard to see when they're on the underside and covered with grunge. And with some bikes (don't remember about your model) one or two stator case bolts are under the sprocket cover case---totally out of sight. (2) Be careful prying: if you gouge or chip one of the mating surfaces you will create an oil leak that might be hard to plug. Might try using a rawhide or other soft-face hammer---but not too hard. You can still break a case with one. --garcia On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 NJitzul@XXXXXX wrote: > Hello all. Just wondering if I can get some advice. My stator is dead and I > have a new one to replace it with. The problem I'm having is removing ths > cover on the left side of the engine to get to the stator. There are two tiny > tabs, one of which is barely accessible due to the cooling pipes, and the > other I can get a screwdriver on from the other side and tap with a hammer. I > don't seem to be getting anywhere with it and am going thru serious bike > withdrawal. And I can't work on it during the week. Yuck. I want to avoid > taking it to the dealer because I have it all the way apart except for the > cover. Any ideas? Anything at all would be a help!! Thanks in advance!! > > Robert "cagin it again" VanSlyke > 83 Shadow 750 "Black (-out) Wolf" > From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 08:24:44 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA04886 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:24:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA07519 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:24:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from alms1.fw.att.com (known alms1.att.com [192.128.167.146]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA21679 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:24:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from dcn73.dcn.att.com ([135.44.68.33]) by alms1.fw.att.com (AT&T/IPNS/GW-1.0) with SMTP id IAA26032 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:24:08 -0500 (EST) Received: by dcn73.dcn.att.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62) id <01BE63BC.DA66E350@XXXXXX>; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:23:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Carver, John" To: "'dc-cycles@XXXXXX'" Subject: Calling Art Crow Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:23:57 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Art, Would mind dropping me a line? I need to ask you a couple of quick questions. TIA. John 98 VFR From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 08:56:56 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA05405 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 08:56:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.07) id ACA220C501C2; Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:56:50 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990301085538.018b2010@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:56:29 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: VTR Inspection In-Reply-To: <85256726.001FB9C6.00@WBLN0014.worldbank.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:47 AM 2/28/99 , Dsislen@XXXXXX wrote: > Took her out to Cycles USA last week for >the >safety inspection, and to my astonishment, the bike failed inspection! Why? >Because I had replaced the rear fender with a Taillocker (i.e. an aftermarket >fender eliminator). What was illegal about it? Not enough fender coverage? Turn signals not separated far enough? Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 09:44:49 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06175 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:44:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:43:41 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:43:33 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:46:20 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: Turnip@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Kawasaki Drifter -Reply -Reply -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline 'Course, this is all just my opinion . . . The Zephyr I was talking about was the ZR 1100. Next to the tough, brutal-looking CB 1000, the big ZR looked kinda like Plain Jane. Especially in Burgundy. Burgundy is for Buicks. Or Pizza. Joe >>> "Hugh A. Caldwell" - 2/26/99 5:37 PM >>> On Fri, 26 Feb 1999, JOE NAGY wrote: > A few years ago, the Kawi Zephyr and the Honda CB-1 were big standards > that failed miserably in the market. THE KAWI LOOKED BORING, and the Hrrrrm, It seems you must of confused the Zephyr with the Nighthawk as all I right think people realize that the ZR750 is drop dead gorgeous ! Thank you for your time, ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hugh A. Caldwell BeGeek 97PGT ZR750-C2 VFR800FI ---------------------------------------------------------------- From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 09:52:23 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA06363 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:52:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:51:30 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:51:26 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:54:09 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, bike.dealer@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Kawasaki Drifter -Reply -Reply -Reply -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Thanks, I'll wait for the US tests. And I really hope that Kawi didn't screw up that motor too much. Why the Japanese feel they have to de-nut their engines to put them in standard bikes is beyond me. This was a prob with the CB 1000 too. What, are we gonna get blown off the back? Joe >>> - 2/26/99 4:00 PM >>> One of the British bike magazines had a head-to-head shootout between the two a couple of months ago. The conclusion seemed to be that the Bandit was more fun - i.e. more wheeliable, etc. The ZRX had some good points that they mentioned too, but my memory's vague. Sorry I don't remember too many of the specifics, but I can try to find the article for you if you're really interested. Chris weaver Well, this late-thirties white guy thinks its "da Shit" too. I was tempted by the Bandit, but the ZRX's stying is all over the Suzook. Any idea of how they match up performance-wise? Joe >>> Bikes R Us - 2/26/99 10:14 AM >>> Judging from the types of people who've shown interest in the ZRX, I'd say your thinking was right on target. The brochure shows a guy in his late thirties or so sitting astride the ZRX. He fits the profile of almost every guy who's considered the ZRX. The exception would be the black guys. Lots of black guys think the ZRX is the "shit." JohnDavid@Bikes R Us On Thu, 25 Feb 1999 15:58:38 -0500 JOE NAGY writes: >I think ZRX lust is directly related to one's memories of the early >days >of AMA Superbike racing, when men were men and Superbikes were 1000cc >of >ill-handling terror. > >Joe > >>>> "Anita Lauro" <2xracers@XXXXXX> - 2/25/99 3:36 PM >>> >They had a ZRX a month or two ago... think it was before the NYC moto >show >even. Don't know if it's still there. Doesn't do a thing for me, >though... >I'll be keeping the GPZ! :-) > >Anita > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JOE NAGY [mailto:NAGYJ@XXXXXX] >> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 2:48 PM >> To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX; bike.dealer@XXXXXX >> Subject: Kawasaki Drifter -Reply >> >> >> Ahhhhh . . . no thanks. Lemme know when the ZRX shows up. >> >> Joe >> '85 Ninja 900 >> >> >>> Bikes R Us - 2/25/99 2:18 PM >>> >> So the Drifter just blew into town (woo-ee-oo-ee-oo, waa-WAA-waa...) >if >> anyone would like to come out and see one. >> >> JohnDavid@Bikes R Us >> ps. Where is everyone anyway? >> >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >> Get completely free e-mail from Juno at >http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >> or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] >> > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 13:13:05 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10089 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:13:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:12:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Cc: "'Dsislen@XXXXXX'" Subject: MD motorcycle inspections Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:12:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Dave Dsislen@XXXXXX I've been advised to find a gas station which might be a bit more lenient in their inspection. Anyone know any gas stations that handle MD motorcycle inspections in the area? The Exxon at Old Georgetown and Democracy does (Did?) MC inspections Check with local shops (not dealers) for recommendations IIRC, in the past few months someone posted a review of local shops (or was that on a web page?) From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 13:18:33 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10187 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:18:32 -0500 (EST) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:18:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Subject: Flame Fest Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:17:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Better than flaming; I sent the "make your wish come true" back to many on the cc list and received this response: "It's one thing to send it to me, but quite another to send to people who are in the original message in the first place! You should never use the CC addresses in the original message, because they already received a copy of it. Now you put them in the position that I have now put you in... you'll have to resend to 10 other people now to make it come true, or else it will do the opposite. I think that's only fair, since you've now done it to me." To which I replied "Oh No 10 more" Bwahahaha, H.L Mencken must be chuckling. Carl in Bethesda From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 13:40:16 1999 Return-Path: david@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10603 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:40:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10HXat-0000ia-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:39:07 -0500 Received: from manitou.bdanet.com (bdanet.com [209.70.174.3]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22495 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdanet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <1X0NHY6Z>; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:44:59 -0500 Message-ID: <21C53F566655D111845600A0C90D6A260ED7DA@bdanet.com> From: David Cross To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Honda Hoot Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:44:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Anyone ever been to a Honda Hoot? What was the experience like? Was it worth going? Was it well run? What about lodging or camping? Anything else? I am kicking around the idea of going to this years in June but have never been to one or talked with anyone who has attended one in the past. TIA, Dave Cross WERA & CCS #416am --------------------------- Sponsored by Fast Lane Cycles (703) 818 8890 http://www.fastlanecycles.com --------------------------- 90 FZR400 (race) 94 VFR750 (street) From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 13:40:14 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10600 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:40:12 -0500 (EST) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:39:58 -0800 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: weather.. Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:37:08 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) yuck.. http://www.weather.com is calling for snow in the AM on Thursday morning... sheesh, I thought it was spring already... Brian From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 13:40:44 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10619 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:40:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:40:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'DCCy'" Cc: "'jckozyn@XXXXXX'" Subject: Machine shop? Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:40:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain John C. Kozyn, asked, "Does anyone know of a competent local machine shop that could manufacture two small aluminum brackets? (I want to mount a set of Tenzo halogen driving lights to the front brake caliper mounting bolts of a 95 VFR.)" Unless you have something complicated in mind, you can quickly craft simple brackets from aluminum alloy bar stock such as that sold at Home Depot or Lowes. I made brackets for my Pilot driving lights from 1" x 1/8 in stock as follows: Figger out length of bar(s) needed, mark Cut it with a hack saw Mark & drill mounting holes Mark where bend desired Set a piece in a vice (insulated with wood scrap-have bucket or hose ready to put out fire). Use a propane torch, heat at mark while keeping pressure on the piece until it bends. Put out fire -DON'T touch the bent piece until it cools a bit. Repeat for next bracket File - sand rough edges, promise self to polish and spray with clear coat one day. Carl in Bethesda 85 VF700S "Rocin-ahorito" '80 GS450E "Caballoante"; FOM #3, AMA 676120 "Loud shirts save lives." Commuting into your nation's capitol since 1981 through rain, sun, and snow, but no ice! From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 13:41:33 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA10629 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:41:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.07) id AF3B312B0134; Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:40:59 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990301134438.0190b110@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 13:45:36 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Flame Fest In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:17 PM 3/1/99 , Custer, Carl wrote: >"It's one thing to send it to me, but quite another to send to people who >are in the original message in the first place! You should never use >the CC addresses in the original message, because they already received >a copy of it That wasn't explicitly stated in the original message, was it? Oh no! >To which I replied "Oh No 10 more" >Bwahahaha, H.L Mencken must be chuckling. And P.T. Barnum. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 13:53:23 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA10907 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:53:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta1.mcit.com (omta1.mcit.com [166.37.204.2]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id SAA16224; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:51:45 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta1.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990301185134.TNX20734@toddnt>; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:51:34 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Custer, Carl" , "'DCCy'" Subject: RE: Flame Fest Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:49:47 -0500 Message-ID: <001d01be6414$4761d530$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Heh, heh, heh? You should have just resent it again to her. Todd > -----Original Message----- > From: Custer, Carl [mailto:Carl.Custer@XXXXXX] > Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 1:18 PM > To: 'DCCy' > Subject: Flame Fest > > > Better than flaming; I sent the "make your wish come true" back to many on > the cc list and received this response: > "It's one thing to send it to me, but quite another to send to people who > are in the original message in the first place! You should never use > the CC addresses in the original message, because they already received > a copy of it. Now you put them in the position that I have now put you > in... you'll have to resend to 10 other people now to make it come true, > or else it will do the opposite. I think that's only fair, since you've > now done it to me." > > To which I replied "Oh No 10 more" > Bwahahaha, H.L Mencken must be chuckling. > > Carl in Bethesda > From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 13:59:44 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from www0d.netaddress.usa.net (www0d.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.33]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA11072 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 13:59:41 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 5532 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Mar 1999 18:32:31 -0000 Message-ID: <19990301183231.5531.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.33 by www0d via web-mailer(R2.6) on Mon Mar 1 18:32:31 GMT 1999 Date: 1 Mar 99 10:32:31 PST From: Linda Tanner To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re:Honda Hoot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I went to the Hoot in 97 and was mostly disappointed. Evening events all= ended by 9pm (sometimes 8) I guess to cater to the Goldwing crowd ;-). T= he daytime stuff was ok although I went on a mystery sport ride with 400 of = my closest friends. It was a little tough to ride a great road in a group t= hat big. The manufacturers show was closed to the public, so the crowds were= small and easy to deal with, but the show was small as well. I might go again sometime except that the national HSTA event is at the s= ame time (nearly) and will be much better and it's in Ohio this year. Linda T. 95 F3 Purple Haze (53K miles and counting...) Dave Cross asked: Anyone ever been to a Honda Hoot? What was the experience like? Was it worth going? Was it well run? What about lodging or camping? Anything else? I am kicking around the idea of going to this years in June but have never been to one or talked with anyone who has attended one in the past. ____________________________________________________________________ More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at htt= p://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 14:02:59 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11193 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:02:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 231; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:02:21 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990301140048.02bdb970@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:02:07 -0500 To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Re: weather.. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:37 PM 3/1/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >yuck.. http://www.weather.com is calling for snow in the AM on Thursday >morning... sheesh, I thought it was spring already... It figures. I decided to reform and become a cold weather rider...nows my chance ;-) Only major cold factor this morning were my upper thighs. The tops (and my fingers) were very cold after about 20 minutes. Fortunately, I only have a 25 minutes ride! ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 Naked bike, and too damn cold to ride From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 14:11:25 1999 Return-Path: Carl.Custer@XXXXXX Received: from dchqexs1.fsis.usda.gov (wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa [199.128.203.12] (may be forged)) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA11319 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:11:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by wsc.ag.gov.203.128.199.in-addr.arpa with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) id ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:10:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Custer, Carl" To: "'Todd Peer'" , "'DCCy'" Subject: RE: Flame Fest Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:10:46 -0500 Sensitivity: Personal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain > Heh, heh, heh? You should have just resent it again to her. > Todd [Carl sez] What I posted to the list was not the entire reply > > To which I replied "Oh No 10 more" > > Bwahahaha, H.L Mencken must be chuckling. Carl in Bethesda: I'm from the gummimint and here to hep ya. From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 14:58:52 1999 Return-Path: nomad98@XXXXXX Received: from send1e.yahoomail.com (send1e.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.64]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12270 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 14:58:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990301195741.21187.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.108.10.1] by send1e; Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:57:41 PST Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:57:41 -0800 (PST) From: Nomad Subject: Go figure...Cannondale makes a dirtbike To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://www.cannondale.com/html/motorcycle/intro_mx400.html _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 15:42:43 1999 Return-Path: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from imo21.mx.aol.com (imo21.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.65]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA13070 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:42:41 -0500 (EST) From: JinnSinn@XXXXXX Received: from JinnSinn@XXXXXX by imo21.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id BXXGa07798; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:40:15 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:40:15 EST To: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX, Carl.Custer@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Flame Fest Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 4 LOL and to all the cc's again too ;D marcy In a message dated 3/1/99 1:59:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, todd.b.peer@XXXXXX writes: > Heh, heh, heh? You should have just resent it again to her. From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 16:32:44 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA14042 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:32:38 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id QAA17704; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:32:16 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma002590; Mon, 1 Mar 99 16:00:52 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F7X00AMJP1VMX@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:01:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256727.00731B59 ; Mon, 01 Mar 1999 15:57:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 15:57:07 -0500 Subject: Traffic Management To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256727.0072D6A9.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Anyone see this little gem in Dr. Gridlock's column? Interesting. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kudos to Police In Rush Hour By Ron Shaffer Thursday, February 25, 1999; Page J01 Three cheers for the Maryland State Police! Faced with an obstreperous volunteer firefighter who had closed all lanes of southbound Interstate 95 for a minor traffic accident during Thursday's evening rush hour, the state police ordered two lanes opened immediately. When the fire official objected, he was led away in handcuffs and charged with "obstructing and hindering, disturbing the peace, hindering free passage, and failure to obey a lawful order," and the lanes were opened. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can go here for the full article --> http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-02/25/079l-022599-idx.h tml --chris ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 18:59:35 1999 Return-Path: t_gimer@XXXXXX Received: from send501.yahoomail.com (web505.yahoomail.com [128.11.68.72]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA16810 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 18:59:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990302000032.20359.rocketmail@send501.yahoomail.com> Received: from [206.97.127.172] by web505.yahoomail.com; Mon, 01 Mar 1999 16:00:32 PST Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 16:00:32 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Gimer Subject: Re: Where to Dirt Ride To: "Custer, Carl" , "'DCCy'" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii For the ultimate LEGAL dirt experience, go on out to the George Washington National Forest and hit the trails that the Northern Virginia Trail Riders help upkeep. When I head out there, I enter the trails in either New Market or a little southwest of Front Royal. Contacting NVTR would probably be the best and first thing to do. Good luck. There are miles of trails to enjoy....also plenty of camping. ---"Custer, Carl" wrote: > > I fixed up a '78 Suzuki DS100 for my grandson. But except for the back yard > and far away places, > (Solomon's Island, Garrett Country, & Pocomoke) I haven't located a legal > place to dirt/trail ride. Any body have suggestions for where to dirt or > trail ride within 50 miles, 100 miles? > Also, the back yard escapades have: > 1) gotten my son-in-law yearning for a dirt bike again, and > 2) me thinking about a dual sport (ahem, just for snow commuting ;^) > Anyone have something collecting dust & rust they'd want to tempt me with? > > Carl Custer in Bethesda > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 19:36:04 1999 Return-Path: fnord@XXXXXX Received: from sasami.jurai.net (fnord@XXXXXX [207.153.65.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA17563 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:36:03 -0500 (EST) Received: (from fnord@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id TAA19497 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:35:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 19:35:53 -0500 From: Elie Rosenblum To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Junkyards Message-ID: <19990301193552.A19467@cosanostra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i X-Illuminati: Can you see the fnords? X-Cthulhu: HASTUR Kind of a dumb question, but does anybody know of any bike junkyards in the area? Preferably pull-it-yourself, but I'll take what I can get...I found baltimore cycle salvage, but I'm hoping there are some others around. -- Elie Rosenblum That is not dead which can eternal lie, http://www.cosanostra.net And with strange aeons even death may die. Admin / Mercenary / System Programmer - _The Necronomicon_ From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 21:18:49 1999 Return-Path: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from imo23.mx.aol.com (imo23.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.67]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA19373 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:18:47 -0500 (EST) From: McKeithen@XXXXXX Received: from McKeithen@XXXXXX by imo23.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id HHQFa07005; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:09:18 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: <32b94702.36db484e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 21:09:18 EST To: ljtanner@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Re:Honda Hoot Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 I had pretty much decided to go to the Hoot, but after reading your post you have got me thinking. Anybody else got any input? Because of the goofy scheduling I can only go to one of the events. If they had been spaced out a bit I would have gone to both. From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 22:08:37 1999 Return-Path: mrider@XXXXXX Received: from server1.illuminet.net (root@XXXXXX [205.215.54.51]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA20210 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:08:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust046.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.46]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA00976; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:08:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990301203129.0069e1cc@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 20:31:29 -0500 To: "Mike Troutman" , "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: weather.. In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990301140048.02bdb970@mail.wheatintl.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:02 PM 3/1/99 -0500, Mike Troutman wrote: >It figures. I decided to reform and become a cold weather rider...nows my >chance ;-) > I did the semi-annual washing of my winter Aerostich yesterday. I discovered that Goretex keeps the insides of the arms from drying in the dryer. Since the weather was so nice, I wore the summer 'stich today. Spring is here, all the Harley's were headed south on trailers this past weekend. Leon From dc-cycles-request Mon Mar 1 22:59:13 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA21111 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:59:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA19637 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:59:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo24.mx.aol.com (known imo24.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.68]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id WAA15712 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:59:08 -0500 (EST) From: NJitzul@XXXXXX Received: from NJitzul@XXXXXX by imo24.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 3DXGa21771 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:54:18 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 22:54:18 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Stator cover removed!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 9 Well, it took some work and a combination of alot of tips, but I got it off today!! I had to pry gently on one side and tap with a rubber mallet (borrowed from work) on the other. It's shimmied right off in about 20 minutes using that technique. Now to get the new stator in and on the bike. Ugh.... Robert "airplanes are easier than bikes" VanSlyke 83 Shadow 750 From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 06:28:56 1999 Return-Path: Dysart@XXXXXX Received: from dadc011.army.mil (Pentagon-DADC011.army.mil [134.11.235.8]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA00136 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 06:28:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by dadc011.hqda.pentagon.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 06:27:00 -0500 Message-ID: <65809F9C94B4D21189A90008C756F46F263D6B@dadc040.hqda.pentagon.mil> From: "Dysart, Glenn B., Mr., IMCEN" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Go figure...Cannondale makes a dirtbike Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 06:25:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) I'm a bit surprised it a four stroke and not a two smoke. Glenn http://www.cannondale.com/html/motorcycle/intro_mx400.html _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 07:25:35 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA01057 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:25:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA26065 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:25:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA19712 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:25:29 -0500 (EST) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 85256728.00435224 ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:15:19 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, WeinsteJ@XXXXXX, mdow@XXXXXX, Askstephen@XXXXXX, names@XXXXXX, bob@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256728.0042EEA7.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:15:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I ran across this on another list. Gary is one wild dude. >>Oh Mama, Rothwell is Nuts Liverpool England, February 24, 1999: Internationally renowned motorcycle stunt rider Gary Rothwell has done it again. Rothwell set five new blistering, and quite insane, world records bringing his total of stunt records to seven. The five new records were set on Monday in England, and consist of the following stunts. 1) World's fastest wheelie: 178.20 mph. 2) World's fastest lying on the bike and steering with feet: 150.29 mph. 3) World's fastest skiing off the side of a motorcycle: 150.26 mph. 4) World's fastest riding backwards: 132.39 mph. (Give me a stinking break!) 5) World's fastest stoppie: 118.12 mph In addition to these World Record stunts, Gary also holds two other records; world's fastest skiing behind a motorcycle: at 150.3 mph, and the world record for the multi-person wheelie set with12 people on board. The guys at Performance Bike photographed these stunts for an upcoming feature in their magazine. Rothwell also videotaped his antics and they will be available this spring for viewing in the privacy of your home. You can see the man, and his lovely wife Joan, perform next week at the MBNA Daytona 200 on Saturday March 6th and Sunday March 7th.<< From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 08:37:42 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02198 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.07) id A9A11B6016C; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:37:37 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990302081343.017c3780@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:15:57 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Junkyards In-Reply-To: <19990301193552.A19467@cosanostra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:35 PM 3/1/99 , Elie Rosenblum wrote: >Kind of a dumb question, but does anybody know of any bike junkyards >in the area? Preferably pull-it-yourself, but I'll take what I can >get...I found baltimore cycle salvage, but I'm hoping there are some >others around. Winding Road Motorcycle Times has ads for them. There's one in Baltimore, Cumberland (MD), Dover (DE), and Norfolk. They pull the parts off themselves, but the advantage is they know what they have. P&F in Dover is wonderful, worth a trip just to see the place, and a great source. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 08:37:42 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02199 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.07) id A9981B6016C; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:37:37 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990302081630.017cb0d0@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:17:23 -0500 To: From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: weather.. In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990301203129.0069e1cc@illuminet.net> References: <4.1.19990301140048.02bdb970@mail.wheatintl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:31 PM 3/1/99 , Leon Begeman wrote: >Spring is here, all the Harley's were headed south on trailers this past >weekend. Bummer. All those broken Harleys. Good thing there's that mechanics' convention in Daytona so they can go there and get their bikes fixed. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 08:37:42 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02197 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:37:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.07) id A9A01B6016C; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:37:36 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990302080750.017c3200@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 08:09:26 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Traffic Management In-Reply-To: <85256727.0072D6A9.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:57 PM 3/1/99 , christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >When the fire official objected, he was led away in >handcuffs >and charged with "obstructing and hindering, disturbing the peace, >hindering free >passage, and failure to obey a lawful order," and the lanes were opened. I read the article in the paper. Wonderful! Apparently this fire official has pulled this sort of stunt before, too. Glad to see there's emphasis on treating the wounded AND letting the thousands of cars in traffic get through. Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 08:47:20 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA02416 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:47:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA26744 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:47:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (known smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id IAA20810 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:47:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.22]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10HpV4-0002p4-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:46:18 -0500 Received: from manitou.bdanet.com (bdanet.com [209.70.174.3]) by smtp-gw2.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA16757 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:47:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdanet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <1X0NHZAW>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:52:12 -0500 Message-ID: <21C53F566655D111845600A0C90D6A260ED7DD@bdanet.com> From: David Cross To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:52:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > 5) World's fastest stoppie: 118.12 mph Usually a stoppie is coming to a complete stop and raising the rear wheel off the ground using the braking power of the front brake. Judging buy the record above this must mean he had the rear wheel off the ground while traveling at 118mph, but how does he get the rear of the ground to do this while moving? I've seen most of his stunts but not this one to me recollection. Dave Cross From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 09:19:52 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA02981 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:19:50 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA04014; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:20:22 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma003772; Tue, 2 Mar 99 09:20:05 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F7Z00DMF15WKK@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:20:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256728.004E7289 ; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 09:16:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 09:12:45 -0500 Subject: Honda Daytona Coverage To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256728.004E2A39.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL For those interested in Daytona stuff, I received this by email today. I must be on a Honda list somewhere. Chris Weaver ------------------------------- Interested in an all-access pass for the Daytona '99 pits? Well, stay tuned because that's exactly what Honda has in store for you. We'll broadcast straight from our Road Racing and Supercross pits to bring you race updates, highlights, pictures, interviews and much more including a special audio LIVE Q&A with the Honda Racing Team at the HRCA Daytona Banquet. So pull up a chair, log on and spend some time with the Red Riders at Daytona. Check http://www.hondamotorcycle.com/racing/daytona/ on Thursday, March 4th for the beginning of our exclusive Daytona coverage! Plus, don't forget to check our regular weekly race coverage featured at http://www.HondaRedRiders.com! You may receive future mailings announcing special promotions at Honda. 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From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 09:34:35 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03233 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:34:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 06:34:29 -0800 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 06:34:27 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) > Usually a stoppie is coming to a complete stop and raising the rear > wheel off the ground using the braking power of the front brake. > Judging buy the record above this must mean he had the rear wheel off > the ground while traveling at 118mph, but how does he get the rear of > the ground to do this while moving? I've seen most of his stunts but > not this one to me recollection. Dave, do you know the physics principals behind doing a stoppie? As you apply pressure to the front brakes, they slow you.. pushing the front tire into the ground, giving you more contact patch and ability to break untill either you stop, or you break the friction. If you grabs the brakes hard, you's more likely to break friction (less weight bais and ability to hold the ground).. BUT, if you break heavily, THEN grab a handfull.. the rear will 'hop' up off the ground (you see it going into T5 ALL the time at Summit).. if you back off slightly, the bike will continue rolling, keeping the rear in the air.. and you have a rolling stoppie. Rothwell initiates his stoppies at, well, as indicated.. 118.12mph - then rides them to 0mph.. quite fun to watch actioally.. probably a bear to learn to do right though... Brian From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 09:50:48 1999 Return-Path: todd.b.peer@XXXXXX Received: from omzrelay.mcit.com (omzrelay.mcit.com [166.37.204.49]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03580 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from omta3.mcit.com (omta3.mcit.com [166.37.204.5]) by omzrelay.mcit.com (8.8.7/) with ESMTP id OAA12853; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:50:16 GMT Received: from toddnt ([166.41.242.214]) by omta3.mcit.com (InterMail v03.02.05 118 121 101) with SMTP id <19990302145016.VFMA26495@toddnt>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 08:50:16 -0600 From: "Todd Peer" To: "Linda Tanner" , Subject: RE: Honda Hoot Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:48:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000401be64bb$b7b1d720$d6f229a6@toddnt.mcit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: <19990301183231.5531.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net> Importance: Normal A couple of things Linda is failing to mention here is that the roads in the Asheville area are fantastic, and that there are a number of things to do and see, either riding or not. A couple of things to see are the Biltmore Estate and Chimney Rock Park. Both things could absorb a day easily. If you're into tourist traps, see how the native Americans have embraced captialism in Cherokee, NC. If nothing else, the ride down the BRP from Asheville is worth it. My advice is to hook up with like minded riders at the event. I didn't realize it at the time, but the last time I was there a bunch of my ST1100 Email buds were also there (must not have been paying attention when they announced it). But if you end up riding solo, do not hesitate to explore the area. Excellent roads. The mystery sport bike ride Linda is talking about takes you up SR151, a road I discovered all by myself. And believe me, it's much better all by yourself :) Todd > > I went to the Hoot in 97 and was mostly disappointed. Evening events all > ended by 9pm (sometimes 8) I guess to cater to the Goldwing crowd > ;-). The > daytime stuff was ok although I went on a mystery sport ride with > 400 of my > closest friends. It was a little tough to ride a great road in a > group that > big. The manufacturers show was closed to the public, so the crowds were > small and easy to deal with, but the show was small as well. > > I might go again sometime except that the national HSTA event is > at the same > time (nearly) and will be much better and it's in Ohio this year. > > Linda T. > 95 F3 Purple Haze (53K miles and counting...) > > Dave Cross asked: > Anyone ever been to a Honda Hoot? What was the experience like? Was it > worth going? Was it well run? What about lodging or camping? Anything > else? > > I am kicking around the idea of going to this years in June but have > never been to one or talked with anyone who has attended one in the > past. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account > today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 09:55:35 1999 Return-Path: david@XXXXXX Received: from smtp-out.vma.verio.net (smtp-out.vma.verio.net [168.143.190.239]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA03605 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:55:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp-gw.vma.verio.net ([168.143.0.18]) by smtp-out.vma.verio.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #1) id 10HqYi-00052r-00 for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:54:08 -0500 Received: from manitou.bdanet.com (bdanet.com [209.70.174.3]) by smtp-gw.vma.verio.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21423 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:55:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by bdanet.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <1X0NHZCQ>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:00:03 -0500 Message-ID: <21C53F566655D111845600A0C90D6A260ED7DE@bdanet.com> From: David Cross To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:59:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain > will 'hop' up off the ground (you see it going into T5 ALL the time at > Summit).. if you back off slightly, the bike will continue > rolling, keeping > the rear in the air.. and you have a rolling stoppie. > Rothwell initiates > his stoppies at, well, as indicated.. 118.12mph - then rides > them to 0mph.. > quite fun to watch actioally.. probably a bear to learn to do right > though... > I hop my rear tire before T1 and T5 at Summit more often than I should but these are little hops not full stoppies that could be ridden of course. I understand the physics of it I just dont know "how" he does it. I would love to see it. That to me would be the most amazing of his stunts. Dave Cross WERA & CCS #416am --------------------------- Sponsored by Fast Lane Cycles (703) 818 8890 http://www.fastlanecycles.com --------------------------- 90 FZR400 (race) 94 VFR750 (street) From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 10:02:56 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03797 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:02:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD88290021C; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 10:02:32 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990302100634.017ccc30@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 10:07:45 -0500 To: "'dc'" From: Chris Norloff Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:34 AM 3/2/99 , McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: >118.12mph - then rides them to 0mph.. >quite fun to watch actioally.. probably a bear to learn to do right >though... Wow. I know a few MSF instructors I'd like him to be a "student" for ... should be worth a few heart attacks. :-) Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 10:44:33 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04537 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:44:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28457 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.olg.com (known olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id KAA23861 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:44:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.22]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 10:40:56 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "David Cross" , Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: <000601be64c3$2a664ba0$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <21C53F566655D111845600A0C90D6A260ED7DD@bdanet.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Simple. You just have to brake hard enough to compress the forks. Then the rest of the momentum carries the back of the bike up. Watch some superbike races, and you can frequently see the back ends get an inch or so off the ground when coming into tight turns. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > -----Original Message----- > From: David Cross [mailto:david@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 8:52 AM > To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX > Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell > > > > 5) World's fastest stoppie: 118.12 mph > > Usually a stoppie is coming to a complete stop and raising the rear > wheel off the ground using the braking power of the front brake. > Judging buy the record above this must mean he had the rear wheel off > the ground while traveling at 118mph, but how does he get the rear of > the ground to do this while moving? I've seen most of his stunts but > not this one to me recollection. > > Dave Cross > From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 10:58:31 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail01.usace.army.mil (mcxmail01.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.99]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA04863 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:58:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by mcxmail01.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:58:25 -0800 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 07:57:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) George, if it's so simple, would you care to teach a few of us? > -----Original Message----- > From: George Howell [mailto:ghowell@XXXXXX] > > > Simple. You just have to brake hard enough to compress the > forks. Then the > rest of the momentum carries the back of the bike up. From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 12:20:07 1999 Return-Path: kirk@XXXXXX Received: from beta.nova.org (beta.nova.org [209.31.144.41]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06505 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:19:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from members (members.nova.org [209.31.144.35]) by beta.nova.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10530 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:18:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:18:12 -0500 (EST) From: Kirk Roy X-Sender: kirk@XXXXXX To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > George, if it's so simple, would you care to teach a few of us? > > > > Simple. You just have to brake hard enough to compress the > > forks. Then the rest of the momentum carries the back of the bike up. Right! This is like saying, "to play the saxaphone blow into it and move your fingers around". Kirk From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 12:31:55 1999 Return-Path: cfagan@XXXXXX Received: from cgns11.uscg.mil (cgns11.uscg.mil [152.121.49.5]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA06776 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:31:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from mscex.MSC.USCG.MIL ([10.72.2.5]) by cgns11.uscg.mil (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23270 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by MSCEX with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:31:27 -0500 Message-ID: <6B6E7568D1C6D211A48C00600832A5B10168AB@MSCEX> From: "Fagan, Collin LT" To: DC-Cycles Mailing List Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:31:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Ahhh..so great to be getting list traffic again...... I'm assuming that we're talking stoppies here?? If you attempt one in the manner that George described, you will most likely lock the front tire before you pull a stoppie...They aren't that easy to do... On Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:29 PM, Kirk Roy [SMTP:kirk@XXXXXX] wrote: > On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > George, if it's so simple, would you care to teach a few of us? > > > > > > Simple. You just have to brake hard enough to compress the > > > forks. Then the rest of the momentum carries the back of the bike up. > > Right! This is like saying, "to play the saxaphone blow into it and move > your fingers around". > > Kirk > From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 12:53:03 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07162 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:53:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01119 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:52:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27389 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:52:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 568 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:52:48 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990302124931.01a9ccd0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 12:52:45 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Riding Lunch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahh - its good to be back. Just took a brisk 30 minute (each way) ride on litle known roads between Reston and Tysons Corner. Took along a Harley riding co-worker to marvel at all of the slow ass drivers on the road. At what point will DOT come out and sweep the sand off my curves? Does nature just have to take its course? My fingers are a bit numb...new gloves coming soon..... Looks like rain and snow for the rest of the week. Back under the bike cover she goes..... ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 Naked bike, and too damn cold to ride From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 12:58:27 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA07259 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:58:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01160 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:58:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp4.erols.com (known smtp4.erols.com [207.172.3.237]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id MAA27489 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:58:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from default (209-122-216-111.s111.tnt3.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com [209.122.216.111]) by smtp4.erols.com (8.8.8/smtp-v1) with SMTP id MAA14189 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:58:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <36C1C73F.210D@erols.com> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:51:59 -0500 From: Art Crow X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dc-cycles Subject: Crass Commercial Announcement Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While at the Indianapolis Motorcycle Dealer Show, I asked several tire distributors for quotes on some tires. While most were willing to send me a mail quote at "show" prices, 1 vendor went beyond (way beyond) the call of duty and shipped the tires. When they figured out that they had made serious error, they offered to pick up the tires and take them back with no costs to me. I suggested that they make me a better deal on the tires and let me try to sell them at a better price and take back what I couldn't sell. They went for it. I have until Monday, 3/8 to get rid of them and then back they go. I have 2 Dunlop 491, 2 Dunlop 401, 2 MEz2, 2 MEz4, and 18 Dunlop D205 in front and rear sizes. First come, etc. You can reach me at 703-241-0733 This is a one time deal. There aren't any orders. WYSISIG. -- Art Crow 1995 R1100RSL, "Mariah" 1996 JRT, "Higgins" 1998 JRT, "Diva" "I've been warm and dry. I've been cold and wet. Warm and dry is better." From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 13:03:19 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07370 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:03:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA01259 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (known iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id NAA27631 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:03:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:00:51 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:00:45 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 11:10:12 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: bob@XXXXXX, Steve_Beck@XXXXXX, Askstephen@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX, names@XXXXXX, WeinsteJ@XXXXXX, mdow@XXXXXX Subject: -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline If you EVER get the chance to see this guy, DO IT! We saw him last year in Brainerd and I dang near wet myself. And his wife is as loony as he is. Joe >>> - 3/2/99 7:15 AM >>> I ran across this on another list. Gary is one wild dude. >>Oh Mama, Rothwell is Nuts Liverpool England, February 24, 1999: Internationally renowned motorcycle stunt rider Gary Rothwell has done it again. Rothwell set five new blistering, and quite insane, world records bringing his total of stunt records to seven. The five new records were set on Monday in England, and consist of the following stunts. 1) World's fastest wheelie: 178.20 mph. 2) World's fastest lying on the bike and steering with feet: 150.29 mph. 3) World's fastest skiing off the side of a motorcycle: 150.26 mph. 4) World's fastest riding backwards: 132.39 mph. (Give me a stinking break!) 5) World's fastest stoppie: 118.12 mph In addition to these World Record stunts, Gary also holds two other records; world's fastest skiing behind a motorcycle: at 150.3 mph, and the world record for the multi-person wheelie set with12 people on board. The guys at Performance Bike photographed these stunts for an upcoming feature in their magazine. Rothwell also videotaped his antics and they will be available this spring for viewing in the privacy of your home. You can see the man, and his lovely wife Joan, perform next week at the MBNA Daytona 200 on Saturday March 6th and Sunday March 7th.<< From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 13:36:26 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA07980 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:36:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net [166.32.112.69] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id ADD8AE00EA; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:28:40 EST Message-ID: <36DC2F87.92394592@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:35:51 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Norloff CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: Traffic Management References: <4.1.19990302080750.017c3200@mail.toward.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And what about that fatal accident on I-66 yesterday in stop & go traffic? Evidently a tractor-trailer rig tapped the back of a cage, the cage driver stopped and got out to check damages in the #2 lane (#1 is the shoulder/lane thingy I-66 has). Somehow the truck driver didn't see him, ran over him and killed him. WTF?!?!? What's even stranger is the spin Channel 9(NBC) news put on the story - about how the cage driver should have pulled off onto an emergency shoulder a few hundred yards away, and how recent changes in lane usage contributed to this accident. Huh? Sounds to me like the truck driver is a bit at fault here, but thanks to the News Coverage, I don't have the complete story. Anyone know more about this? -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - Sort of mangled right now 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - But she'll let me borrow it :) From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 14:16:12 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08826 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:16:10 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id OAA01107; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:16:59 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma000985; Tue, 2 Mar 99 14:16:34 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F7Z00N05ETJ2A@XXXXXX>; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:16:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256728.00696DF0 ; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:11:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:04:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Traffic Management To: Dale Horstman Cc: Chris Norloff , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256728.0068E9AF.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL A few facts... Channel 9 is CBS, actually. (4 is NBC, 7 is ABC, 5 is Fox) Governor Gilmore recently increased usage of the shoulder of I-66 (the one with the red Xs or green arrows). Westbound 66 shoulder lane availability increased from 4pm-7pm in the evening to 3pm-8pm. I believe morning shoulder usage is increased as well, but I don't know by how much. This increase is due to Gilmore getting stuck in traffic one night and deciding the shoulder lane use should be increased. (This might be hearsay, but it was on the news one night) The police are looking for people who witnessed the accident. I-66 (in that area) has no shoulder during the rush hour aside from emergency pulloffs every mile or so. If you get in a fender bender, GET THE HELL OUT OF THE TRAVEL LANES!!! Chris Weaver Dale wrote: Anyone know more about this? ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 14:25:39 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from www.troutman.org (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA08936 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:25:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 221; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:25:21 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990302142420.028103e0@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:25:19 -0500 To: Dale Horstman , Chris Norloff From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: I 66 Impact Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <36DC2F87.92394592@tidalwave.net> References: <4.1.19990302080750.017c3200@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Not that the Washington Post is any better than CBS...but.... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-03/02/136l-030299-idx.html Man Fatally Hit by Truck After I-66 Fender Bender By Tom Jackman Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, March 2, 1999; Page B01 A motorist who got out of his car on Interstate 66 yesterday to check the damage from a fender bender with a truck was killed when the rush-hour traffic started moving again and the tractor-trailer ran into him, police said. The nature of the accident reignited debate over whether opening the road shoulders to traffic sacrifices driver safety for ease of commuting. On I-66, one of Virginia's busiest highways, commuters are allowed to drive on the shoulders during the morning and evening rush hours. Yesterday's incident occurred about 8:40 a.m., when Daniel P. May, 55, of Fairfax, merged his Toyota Tercel one lane left from the shoulder of I-66 after the Nutley Street on-ramp. The eastbound traffic was stop-and-go, and witnesses told police that May's car was struck from behind by a Mack tractor-trailer driven by Alvie Roy, 45, of Axton, Va. May, a retired statistician who formerly worked for the Immigration and Naturalization Service, stepped out of his car to check the damage, Virginia State Police spokeswoman Lucy Caldwell said. Investigators believe May was either crouched or kneeling beside his car when traffic started again and the truck hit his Tercel, killing May and pushing the Tercel into the shoulder lane. "Where he happened to step out," said Lon Anderson, a spokesman for AAA's Potomac chapter, "there was no shoulder available. This begs the question: Had there been a shoulder, would there be a family and a community with one more member alive today?" Anderson said increasing the capacity of the highway with more lanes was the preferable alternative to using the shoulders. State officials pointed out that the accident did not happen on the shoulder. And while yesterday was the first day of an experiment in which the time for shoulder use is being extended, the accident occurred when the shoulder would have been open anyway. The shoulder normally is open to traffic from 5:30 to 9:30 a.m. eastbound and from 3 to 7 p.m. westbound on a seven-mile stretch of I-66 outside the Capital Beltway. Gov. James S. Gilmore III last month announced an eight-month pilot program to extend the shoulder lanes' availability to 10 a.m. eastbound and to 8 p.m. westbound. State police and transportation authorities said shoulder use has resulted in no notable rise in accidents. "I'm not aware of any major incident since we have been using the far right lane as a travel lane during rush hour," said Joan Morris, spokeswoman for the Virginia Department of Transportation. The shoulders are marked with signs, red and green access lights and darker pavement. As for yesterday's fatality, Caldwell said: "It's not unusual for motorists, in a fender bender, to immediately get out of the vehicle, though we urge them not to. This could've happened on any road, the Beltway, 95, anywhere." Caldwell said there were no indications that May tried to signal or steer his car to the shoulder lane or to an emergency pull-off area 50 yards away. Roy told police he did not see May and was not aware his truck had hit May's car. A state inspection of his truck found that two of the 10 sets of brakes were out of adjustment and that there was a problem with the steering mechanism, but police did not believe those factors contributed to the accident. Roy, who was hauling furniture from Axton to Baltimore, was not charged yesterday. ___________________________________________ “Too bad the only people who know how to run the country are busy cutting hair and driving cabs” - George Burns Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 14:26:37 1999 Return-Path: NAGYJ@XXXXXX Received: from iagw.martinagency.com (iagw.martinagency.com [205.161.206.10]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA08956 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:26:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.martinagency.com by iagw.martinagency.com; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:25:49 -0500 Received: from MARTIN-Message_Server by mail.martinagency.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:25:44 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:57:43 -0500 From: JOE NAGY To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX, cfagan@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline You forgot to mention: 1. Have your wife lay belly-down on the gas tank so that her legs are clamped around your waist and her head hovers just over front wheel. 2. Execute 60-0 stoppie as usual. Joe From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 14:35:00 1999 Return-Path: cnorloff@XXXXXX Received: from piglet.toward.com (piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09130 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:34:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD5B1EA0250; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:34:51 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990302143300.017f3340@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:42:34 -0500 To: Dale Horstman From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: Traffic Management Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <36DC2F87.92394592@tidalwave.net> References: <4.1.19990302080750.017c3200@mail.toward.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 01:35 PM 3/2/99 , Dale Horstman wrote: >Anyone know more about this? I'll attach the Washington Post article. They say the wreck happened at 8:40am, when the shoulder was in use as a travel lane, but the wreck happened when the driver merged into the next lane over and got rear-ended by a truck (in other words he cut off a truck. Not very smart). Then he left his car in the travel lane, was kneeling by the car looking at the damage when some truck (the same one?) hit him. (Stopping in the travel lane. Not very smart). AAA blames it on the lack of a shoulder, but the driver didn't try to move over, he just left the car in the travel lane and got out. The the VA State Police said "I'm not aware of any major incident since we have been using the far right lane as a travel lane during rush hour," said Joan Morris, spokeswoman for the Virginia Department of Transportation. But I remember an old man got killed not long after the shoulder lanes opened, because he pulled onto the shoulder and got out of his car. Got hit from behind and killed. The truck driver said he never saw the driver get out of the car, and was even unaware that he had hit the car. So this whole thing is very odd.=20 Driving around Washington DC-- like living in a Mad Max movie. Chris Norloff ***************************************** http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-03/02/136l-030299-idx.html Man Fatally Hit by Truck After I-66 Fender Bender By Tom Jackman Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, March 2, 1999; Page B01=20 A motorist who got out of his car on Interstate 66 yesterday to check the damage from a fender bender with a truck was killed when the rush-hour traffic started moving again and the tractor-trailer ran into him, police said. The nature of the accident reignited debate over whether opening the road shoulders to traffic sacrifices driver safety for ease of commuting. On I-66, one of Virginia's busiest highways, commuters are allowed to drive on the shoulders during the morning and evening rush hours.=20 Yesterday's incident occurred about 8:40 a.m., when Daniel P. May, 55, of Fairfax, merged his Toyota Tercel one lane left from the shoulder of I-66 after the Nutley Street on-ramp. The eastbound traffic was stop-and-go, and witnesses told police that May's car was struck from behind by a Mack tractor-trailer driven by Alvie Roy, 45, of Axton, Va. May, a retired statistician who formerly worked for the Immigration and Naturalization Service, stepped out of his car to check the damage, Virginia State Police spokeswoman Lucy Caldwell said. Investigators believe May was either crouched or kneeling beside his car when traffic started again and the truck hit his Tercel, killing May and pushing the Tercel into the shoulder lane. "Where he happened to step out," said Lon Anderson, a spokesman for AAA's Potomac chapter, "there was no shoulder available. This begs the question: Had there been a shoulder, would there be a family and a community with one more member alive today?" Anderson said increasing the capacity of the highway with more lanes was the preferable alternative to using the shoulders. State officials pointed out that the accident did not happen on the shoulder. And while yesterday was the first day of an experiment in which the time for shoulder use is being extended, the accident occurred when the shoulder would have been open anyway. The shoulder normally is open to traffic from 5:30 to 9:30 a.m. eastbound and from 3 to 7 p.m. westbound on a seven-mile stretch of I-66 outside the Capital Beltway. Gov. James S. Gilmore III last month announced an eight-month pilot program to extend the shoulder lanes' availability to 10 a.m. eastbound and to 8 p.m. westbound. State police and transportation authorities said shoulder use has resulted in no notable rise in accidents. "I'm not aware of any major incident since we have been using the far right lane as a travel lane during rush hour," said Joan Morris, spokeswoman for the Virginia Department of Transportation. The shoulders are marked with signs, red and green access lights and darker pavement. As for yesterday's fatality, Caldwell said: "It's not unusual for= motorists, in a fender bender, to immediately get out of the vehicle, though we urge them not to. This could've happened on any road, the Beltway, 95, anywhere." Caldwell said there were no indications that May tried to signal or steer his car to the shoulder lane or to an emergency pull-off area 50 yards away. Roy told police he did not see May and was not aware his truck had hit May's car. A state inspection of his truck found that two of the 10 sets of brakes were out of adjustment and that there was a problem with the steering mechanism, but police did not believe those factors contributed to the accident. Roy, who was hauling furniture from Axton to Baltimore, was not charged yesterday. Staff writer Alan Sipress contributed to this report.=20 =A9 Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company=20 From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 14:44:41 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09316 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:44:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net [166.32.112.69] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id ADD055012E; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:36:48 EST Message-ID: <36DC3F7E.5DD77E6@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:43:58 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Troutman CC: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I 66 Impact References: <4.1.19990302080750.017c3200@mail.toward.com> <4.1.19990302142420.028103e0@mail.wheatintl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So the trucker hits a car, the car stops, the trucker hits him and the car again, kills the cager, and isn't charged, right? There's gotta be more to this story.... Let's all be careful out there... Dale Mike Troutman wrote: > > Not that the Washington Post is any better than CBS...but.... > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1999-03/02/136l-030299-idx.html -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - Sort of mangled right now 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - But she'll let me borrow it :) From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 14:50:47 1999 Return-Path: Horkster@XXXXXX Received: from tidalwave.net (mailmessenger.tidalwave.net [208.206.112.71]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09479 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:50:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from tidalwave.net [166.32.112.69] by tidalwave.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.01) id AF65520128; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:43:33 EST Message-ID: <36DC4113.7C69B38A@tidalwave.net> Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 14:50:43 -0500 From: Dale Horstman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX, DC Cycles List Subject: Re: Traffic Management References: <85256728.0068E9AF.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX wrote: > > A few facts... > > Channel 9 is CBS, actually. (4 is NBC, 7 is ABC, 5 is Fox) Oops, my bad. Shows how impressed I've been with the news lately... But it sounds to me like the change in shoulder hours didn't make a squat's worth of difference in this accident, but that was the (IMO) weird slant Channel 9 (CBS!) gave it. Sounded extremely fishy to me. I agree it sounds like the cager may have cut the trucker off, it happens all the time. Those big rigs can't stop as fast as the 4-wheelers. You should hear the truckers bitch on the CB about that constantly. But for the trucker to hit the car AGAIN!?! Dale -- Dale Horstman (the Horkster) horkster@XXXXXX Dale City, Virginia 1998 Kawasaki Concours - BugSlayer - Sort of mangled right now 1998 Kawasaki Concours - Hers - But she'll let me borrow it :) From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 14:56:35 1999 Return-Path: Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX Received: from mcxmail04.usace.army.mil (mcxmail04.usace.army.mil [137.161.200.222]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA09502 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 14:56:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by mcxmail04.usace.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 11:56:15 -0800 Message-ID: From: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" To: "'dc'" Subject: RE: Traffic Management Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 11:56:10 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Dang.. I knew there was a reason I chose MD over VA as a place of residence... they KILL each other down there while driving! From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 15:30:41 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10193 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:30:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA03235 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from goliath.intelsol.com (known Goliath.intelsol.com [192.77.213.64]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA01925 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:30:35 -0500 (EST) From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX Received: by goliath.intelsol.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 (600.1 3-26-1998)) id 85256728.006FB946 ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:20:19 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: ISI To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256728.006EB969.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:20:15 -0500 Subject: Re: I 66 Impact Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline >>So the trucker hits a car, the car stops, the trucker hits him and the car again, kills the cager, and isn't charged, right? There's gotta be more to this story....<< You got that right Dale. Between the TV report and the Washington Post article, the intelligence rate rises to about the level of an eight year old. I propose the following new entry for the next edition of dictionaries: journalist - See moron From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 15:43:25 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10422 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:43:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA03386 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:43:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from piglet.toward.com (known piglet.toward.com [204.194.180.31]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA02366 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:43:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from norloff [206.239.251.201] by piglet.toward.com (SMTPD32-4.07) id AD6317A0208; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 15:43:15 EDT Message-Id: <4.1.19990302154649.01800e00@mail.toward.com> X-Sender: cnorloff@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 15:49:52 -0500 To: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX, dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Chris Norloff Subject: Re: I 66 Impact In-Reply-To: <85256728.006EB969.00@goliath.intelsol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >There's gotta be more to this story....<< > At 03:20 PM 3/2/99 , Steve_Beck@XXXXXX wrote: >You got that right Dale. Between the TV report and the Washington Post >article, the intelligence rate rises to about the level of an eight year >old. > >I propose the following new entry for the next edition of dictionaries: > >journalist - See moron One of the biggest problems today with journalists and journalism is that often all they do is get gov't-issued or company-issued news releases, and parrot that information as "journalism". The idea of actually collecting information on your own, or of reviewing the "official version" critically is so unusual that it's given its own name -- "Investigative Journalism". Shouldn't ALL journalism be "investigative"?, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 15:53:49 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10612 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:53:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA03501 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:53:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03032 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:53:43 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:53:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: "'Steve_Beck@XXXXXX'" , dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I 66 Impact Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:53:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, now, don't lump all of us journalists into the same category. I haven't read the article yet, but calling all journalists "morons" is = like calling all motorcyclists "bikers" or all Southerners "rednecks" (hey, = wait a minute, I resemble that remark. 8^=DE) Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX [mailto:Steve_Beck@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 3:20 PM To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I 66 Impact >>So the trucker hits a car, the car stops, the trucker hits him and the car again, kills the cager, and isn't charged, right? There's gotta be more to this story....<< You got that right Dale. Between the TV report and the Washington Post article, the intelligence rate rises to about the level of an eight = year old. I propose the following new entry for the next edition of dictionaries: journalist - See moron From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 15:55:58 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA10643 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:55:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA03572 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:55:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (known animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA03083 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:55:52 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:55:40 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: I 66 Impact Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:55:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain All right, folks, ... no, no ... gotta fight it ... stay out of this ... Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Chris Norloff [mailto:cnorloff@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 3:50 PM To: Steve_Beck@XXXXXX; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: Re: I 66 Impact >There's gotta be more to this story....<< > At 03:20 PM 3/2/99 , Steve_Beck@XXXXXX wrote: >You got that right Dale. Between the TV report and the Washington Post >article, the intelligence rate rises to about the level of an eight year >old. > >I propose the following new entry for the next edition of dictionaries: > >journalist - See moron One of the biggest problems today with journalists and journalism is that often all they do is get gov't-issued or company-issued news releases, and parrot that information as "journalism". The idea of actually collecting information on your own, or of reviewing the "official version" critically is so unusual that it's given its own name -- "Investigative Journalism". Shouldn't ALL journalism be "investigative"?, Chris Norloff From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 16:10:59 1999 Return-Path: HolmesM@XXXXXX Received: from animal.DINFOS.OSD.MIL (animal.dinfos.osd.mil [199.122.55.11]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA10903 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:10:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by ANIMAL.dinfos.osd.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Holmes, Mitch LT DINFOS/JO" To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Honda Hoot Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 16:10:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Thanks, Todd, for that ringing endorsement of my hometown. Can't remember the dates right off the top of my head, but if and when others decide to go, I might can work it out to go as well. I was in Asheville on other business when the event happened last year. Hooked up with a small group and rode the Blue Ridge Parkway for a little while before I had to continue on. Wish I had known when I arrived in Asheville, so I could've participated in other events. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Todd Peer [mailto:todd.b.peer@XXXXXX] Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 9:48 AM To: Linda Tanner; dc-cycles@XXXXXX Subject: RE: Honda Hoot A couple of things Linda is failing to mention here is that the roads in the Asheville area are fantastic, and that there are a number of things to do and see, either riding or not. A couple of things to see are the Biltmore Estate and Chimney Rock Park. Both things could absorb a day easily. If you're into tourist traps, see how the native Americans have embraced captialism in Cherokee, NC. If nothing else, the ride down the BRP from Asheville is worth it. My advice is to hook up with like minded riders at the event. I didn't realize it at the time, but the last time I was there a bunch of my ST1100 Email buds were also there (must not have been paying attention when they announced it). But if you end up riding solo, do not hesitate to explore the area. Excellent roads. The mystery sport bike ride Linda is talking about takes you up SR151, a road I discovered all by myself. And believe me, it's much better all by yourself :) Todd > > I went to the Hoot in 97 and was mostly disappointed. Evening events all > ended by 9pm (sometimes 8) I guess to cater to the Goldwing crowd > ;-). The > daytime stuff was ok although I went on a mystery sport ride with > 400 of my > closest friends. It was a little tough to ride a great road in a > group that > big. The manufacturers show was closed to the public, so the crowds were > small and easy to deal with, but the show was small as well. > > I might go again sometime except that the national HSTA event is > at the same > time (nearly) and will be much better and it's in Ohio this year. > > Linda T. > 95 F3 Purple Haze (53K miles and counting...) > > Dave Cross asked: > Anyone ever been to a Honda Hoot? What was the experience like? Was it > worth going? Was it well run? What about lodging or camping? Anything > else? > > I am kicking around the idea of going to this years in June but have > never been to one or talked with anyone who has attended one in the > past. > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account > today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail > From dc-cycles-request Tue Mar 2 17:25:46 1999 Return-Path: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12371 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:25:44 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.meier@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id RAA18194; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:25:50 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma017984; Tue, 2 Mar 99 17:25:15 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F7Z00GFSNMQDB@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:25:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256728.007AD929 ; Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:21:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 17:21:40 -0500 Subject: Re: Riding Lunch To: Mike Troutman Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256728.007A961F.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL Your fingers were numb in 60 deg weather? Whew ... electrics may not even help you. :-) --chris (cold blooded winter rider) From: Mike Troutman Date: 03/02/99 05:52:45 PM GMT Subject: Riding Lunch Ahh - its good to be back. Just took a brisk 30 minute (each way) ride on litle known roads between Reston and Tysons Corner. Took along a Harley --snip-- My fingers are a bit numb...new gloves coming soon..... ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 00:10:10 1999 Return-Path: mike@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19287 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from ns2.wheatintl.com ([38.218.78.34]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA08688 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:42:45 -0500 (EST) Received: (from mail@localhost) by ns2.wheatintl.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) id XAA25364; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-122-252-253.s507.tnt1.lnh.md.dialup.rcn.com(209.122.252.253) by ns2 via smap (V2.0) id xma025361; Tue, 2 Mar 99 23:42:04 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990302234034.00ae2d60@www.troutman.org> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 23:41:41 -0500 To: christopher.meier@XXXXXX From: Mike T Subject: Re: Riding Lunch Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX In-Reply-To: <85256728.007A961F.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:21 PM 3/2/99 -0500, christopher.meier@XXXXXX wrote: >Your fingers were numb in 60 deg weather? Whew ... electrics may not even >help you. :-) Sure wasn't 60 degrees in the shade where I was....felt like 50 when we were stopped, and 20 when we were moving ;-) _____________________________________ Mike Troutman mike@XXXXXX http://www.troutman.org '91 Honda Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 00:10:13 1999 Return-Path: rdt@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19290 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:10:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtp3.erols.com (smtp3.erols.com [207.172.3.236]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA05269 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:20:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from gt350pii (207-172-182-84.s84.tnt19.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.182.84]) by smtp3.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA14450 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:20:07 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000701be65ee$4cf37cc0$54b6accf@gt350pii> From: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." To: "DC Cycles" Subject: Daytona 200 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 22:22:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE65C4.62EF5500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE65C4.62EF5500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of my buddies are thinking about watching the Daytona 200 at Damons = in Woodbridge on Sunday evening. Anyone interested in joining us? This = includes wives or female significant others, as Kerri (my wife) will be = there also and probably would appreciate some female companionship. (Is = that PC?) Roy D. Turner, Esq. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE65C4.62EF5500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some of my buddies are thinking = about watching=20 the Daytona 200 at Damons in Woodbridge on Sunday evening.  Anyone=20 interested in joining us?  This includes wives or female = significant=20 others, as Kerri (my wife) will be there also and probably would = appreciate some=20 female companionship.  (Is that PC?)
Roy D. Turner, = Esq.
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE65C4.62EF5500-- From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 00:10:29 1999 Return-Path: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19293 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:10:14 -0500 (EST) From: LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.8]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA03680 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:45:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from LilBkrBabe@XXXXXX by imo18.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id 7ZOJa20553; Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:33:22 +1900 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:33:22 EST To: Wishn4him@XXXXXX, POSTMAN28M@XXXXXX, Voxreri@XXXXXX, Needlsnpin@XXXXXX, Crowbar446@XXXXXX, HOGWILDX2@XXXXXX, TOWISH@XXXXXX, JFitzge669@XXXXXX, LittleWW@XXXXXX, Cynthia.M.Collins.1@XXXXXX, rosie@XXXXXX, vitaman@XXXXXX, Chopprdq@XXXXXX, Livinlif41@XXXXXX, SassyJazz@XXXXXX, PSYCHONORD@XXXXXX, Spitsucran@XXXXXX, Edina5@XXXXXX, Bbmargie@XXXXXX, RGReaper@XXXXXX, ARMOR1955@XXXXXX, Suthrnpryd@XXXXXX, rwickman@XXXXXX, HAWG4HIRE@XXXXXX, randy@XXXXXX, daultman@XXXXXX, DynaHog@XXXXXX, HarleymanJ@XXXXXX, ADONSNY@XXXXXX, CherEcoke1@XXXXXX, Waltrich1@XXXXXX, MCF007@XXXXXX, A65Shari@XXXXXX, AdjusterR@XXXXXX, LgOvrLethr@XXXXXX, DCMartin@XXXXXX, DMITCH7979@XXXXXX, BLUEYE666@XXXXXX, HAWGHeaven@XXXXXX, Chopprluvr@XXXXXX, Gawthrop@XXXXXX, phil@XXXXXX, pkingley@XXXXXX, sandra.smith@XXXXXX, Fallingnow@XXXXXX, Tccard@XXXXXX, VHWALLS@XXXXXX, Tophogdog@XXXXXX, SHguts@XXXXXX, Wendyrocks@XXXXXX, Kelly68@XXXXXX, Fyrstorm74@XXXXXX, Jukon@XXXXXX, JHD93@XXXXXX, HDusenbery@XXXXXX, JSHD86@XXXXXX, easyriderddg@XXXXXX, TrixiMixi@XXXXXX, SwiftRebel@XXXXXX, Skipride@XXXXXX, Tuflilbabe@XXXXXX, WilbertG@XXXXXX, Travler333@XXXXXX, HarleyzMyn@XXXXXX, UnclChrley@XXXXXX, THall67@XXXXXX, M4CYKLONE@XXXXXX, Stacey3253@XXXXXX, Alphagrrrr@XXXXXX, barretts93@XXXXXX, MACAKITA@XXXXXX, mnicastri@XXXXXX, SMitch2282@XXXXXX, WHilton361@XXXXXX, Scot615@XXXXXX, Tjahdrider@XXXXXX, Khd93@XXXXXX, SWAMPHAGG@XXXXXX, BetyBp43@XXXXXX, PokeyBLTN@XXXXXX, HDRider5@XXXXXX, Green60283@XXXXXX, Trainer175@XXXXXX, Airrr210@XXXXXX, ShdwRdr667@XXXXXX, RUTHLEZZ@XXXXXX, EYoung5152@XXXXXX, LoneTrim@XXXXXX, DDeihl9445@XXXXXX, R90S@XXXXXX, LIKEAMU@XXXXXX, JOSEB123@XXXXXX, LeeOwen@XXXXXX, DBASS753@XXXXXX, KIKSTARTR@XXXXXX, NIKOTROIA@XXXXXX, SMARTASSS4@XXXXXX, RPass32730@XXXXXX, DVD@XXXXXX, NICPAS1@XXXXXX, WIKDWTCH@XXXXXX, DWOLFDOG@XXXXXX, DSR6415@XXXXXX, SusanR39@XXXXXX, JimJacks@XXXXXX, gvhannah@XXXXXX, Caren1m@XXXXXX, Shovl82@XXXXXX, MeanMlKE@XXXXXX, HD72Sport@XXXXXX, g.snelson@XXXXXX, LWELCH@XXXXXX, FXSB1340@XXXXXX, TDarkstar@XXXXXX, Vva451ghm@XXXXXX, DDDHDRider@XXXXXX, Skingirl@XXXXXX, BULLET1891@XXXXXX, Juicyfru69@XXXXXX, HD1996@XXXXXX, JimSchillo@XXXXXX, Sailorkel@XXXXXX, DickB95410@XXXXXX, Wicked816@XXXXXX, LJFRKOKOMO@XXXXXX, FREEDM@XXXXXX, LOWRFRED@XXXXXX, Barbbeep@XXXXXX, LouNick@XXXXXX, Harleyxtcy@XXXXXX, Biker536@XXXXXX, Camel62@XXXXXX, HOGV@XXXXXX, SUPRLAWMAN@XXXXXX, JoanReMax@XXXXXX, RoylatG1@XXXXXX, WCFATBOY@XXXXXX, WYLDTHYNG1@XXXXXX, CLAINCE@XXXXXX, Ocikat@XXXXXX, BillCBMWMC@XXXXXX, StrmWatch@XXXXXX, CloudsAbv9@XXXXXX, Bkrbill13x@XXXXXX, khafre@XXXXXX, Crgcrisis@XXXXXX, JFA2@XXXXXX, FabThad@XXXXXX, imidysa@XXXXXX, Spike574@XXXXXX, ZX6RKAW@XXXXXX, Gcfnb@XXXXXX, DGaeng@XXXXXX, JMille5592@XXXXXX, BOOKEMinDC@XXXXXX, Carolbiker@XXXXXX, MOTOCYCLER@XXXXXX, PROBIKE4U@XXXXXX, dawn.jon@XXXXXX, true@XXXXXX, BBtintop@XXXXXX, SEVENSPEAR@XXXXXX, JLarsen930@XXXXXX, ERICARCHER@XXXXXX, Prsdntlbch@XXXXXX, KAT88888@XXXXXX, fdinata@XXXXXX, OsbornKev@XXXXXX, snake69@XXXXXX, LBKIII@XXXXXX, SMITHCAR69@XXXXXX, HarleyDew@XXXXXX, Wizzette32@XXXXXX, Hdavbabe@XXXXXX, JTEE007@XXXXXX, peter@XXXXXX, SJordan185@XXXXXX, rockwood_lelia@XXXXXX, GUFEAR@XXXXXX, LaceWheels@XXXXXX, Ruffinmug@XXXXXX, pgerhardt@XXXXXX, nicole@XXXXXX, Chuckbiker@XXXXXX, Onebil2mny@XXXXXX, Dadnhisboy@XXXXXX, Postman53@XXXXXX, Geeshaw@XXXXXX, Panda098@XXXXXX, EZRyder421@XXXXXX, RWitten69@XXXXXX, Ladytaz47@XXXXXX, FRexach@XXXXXX, TIM88RG@XXXXXX, Ndmny@XXXXXX, robin_m_gilliam@XXXXXX, BlackcatU2@XXXXXX Cc: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: **POKER RUN FINAL DETAILS** Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 For Details on the MARCH 14, 1999 POKER RUN FOR JK Please refer to the following Web Site Heyser's Home Page If for any reason you can't open this site, drop me a note and I'll give you all the details. The Poker Run is listed under EVENTS and under DISCUSSIONS. Feel free to add, comment or offer your assistance in any way. I'll be there and hope to see you all at this most worthy Event and a great way to start the year off right! For those of you didn't know JK, he recently passed away from a battle with cancer. He was a member of Heyer's for at least 2 decades and was an honest, hardworking, caring individual who strived to do what was right and fair. The proceeds will be going to his family to offset medical and family expenses. Ride safely and stay warm! And if you have the flu, GET OVER IT! Lee From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 00:28:58 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19842 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:28:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.47]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 00:15:27 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "McCoy, Brian NAB02" , "'dc'" Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:16:18 -0500 Message-ID: <00af01be6534$f813bb20$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Simple in theory. Not so simple in practice. I've inadvertantly done it a few times, but 600 lb bikes aren't the best for this kinda thing. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > -----Original Message----- > From: McCoy, Brian NAB02 [mailto:Brian.P.McCoy@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:57 AM > To: 'dc' > Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell > > > George, if it's so simple, would you care to teach a few of us? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: George Howell [mailto:ghowell@XXXXXX] > > > > > > Simple. You just have to brake hard enough to compress the > > forks. Then the > > rest of the momentum carries the back of the bike up. > From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 00:29:00 1999 Return-Path: ghowell@XXXXXX Received: from mail.olg.com (olg.com [205.177.168.3]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA19844 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:28:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Demon (unverified [207.226.128.47]) by mail.olg.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 2.1.7) with SMTP id ; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 00:18:11 -0500 From: "George Howell" To: "Fagan, Collin LT" , "DC-Cycles Mailing List" Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 00:19:03 -0500 Message-ID: <00b001be6535$5a38da60$6e0000c0@Demon.CLINITEC> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-reply-to: <6B6E7568D1C6D211A48C00600832A5B10168AB@MSCEX> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I believe that, as often happens, my comments were taken out of context. The question that I was answering was 'how does one do a stoppie from xxx speed?'. The answer is to apply braking force in such a manner that the front of the bike is braking and diving hard enough to raise the rear of the bike. This doesn't matter what speed you are travelling at. If someone like Rothwell can practice and train long enough, it should be achievable at any velocity. Taken in context, and taken as the answer was intended (that a very difficult problem is really more simple physics), it makes perfect sense. ---------------------------------------- -George Howell ghowell@XXXXXX ghowell@XXXXXX georgehowell@XXXXXX "I ride because dogs have the right idea about car windows" > -----Original Message----- > From: Fagan, Collin LT [mailto:cfagan@XXXXXX] > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:31 PM > To: DC-Cycles Mailing List > Subject: RE: Gary Rothwell > > > Ahhh..so great to be getting list traffic again...... > > I'm assuming that we're talking stoppies here?? If you attempt one in the > manner that George described, you will most likely lock the front tire > before you pull a stoppie...They aren't that easy to do... > > On Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:29 PM, Kirk Roy [SMTP:kirk@XXXXXX] wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, McCoy, Brian NAB02 wrote: > > > George, if it's so simple, would you care to teach a few of us? > > > > > > > > Simple. You just have to brake hard enough to compress the > > > > forks. Then the rest of the momentum carries the back of > the bike up. > > > > Right! This is like saying, "to play the saxaphone blow into it and move > > your fingers around". > > > > Kirk > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 07:01:14 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07832 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:01:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA15513 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:01:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (known saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.90]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA16330 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:01:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from server1.illuminet.net (known server1.illuminet.net [205.215.54.51]) by saltmines.umiacs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id HAA09504 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:01:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from mrider.illuminet.net (cust022.quantico.illuminet.net [209.44.72.22]) by server1.illuminet.net (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA18006 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:01:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990302221808.0069f6a8@illuminet.net> X-Sender: mrider@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:18:08 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: Leon Begeman Subject: Re: Junkyards In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990302081343.017c3780@mail.toward.com> References: <19990301193552.A19467@cosanostra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" H&H in Woodbridge, VA has mostly sport bike stuff. At 08:15 AM 3/2/99 -0500, you wrote: >At 07:35 PM 3/1/99 , Elie Rosenblum wrote: >>Kind of a dumb question, but does anybody know of any bike junkyards >>in the area? Preferably pull-it-yourself, but I'll take what I can >>get...I found baltimore cycle salvage, but I'm hoping there are some >>others around. > >Winding Road Motorcycle Times has ads for them. There's one in Baltimore, >Cumberland (MD), Dover (DE), and Norfolk. They pull the parts off >themselves, but the advantage is they know what they have. P&F in Dover is >wonderful, worth a trip just to see the place, and a great source. > >Chris Norloff > > > > From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 07:05:36 1999 Return-Path: nighthawk700@XXXXXX Received: from bacardi.torrentnet.com (bacardi.torrentnet.com [198.78.51.104]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id HAA07950 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:05:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from send304.yahoomail.com (web304.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.186]) by bacardi.torrentnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id HAA29368 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 07:05:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990303120712.10722.rocketmail@send304.yahoomail.com> Received: from [164.117.16.7] by web304.yahoomail.com; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 04:07:12 PST Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 04:07:12 -0800 (PST) From: "Louis F. Caplan" Subject: Re: Daytona 200 To: "Roy D. Turner, Esq." , DC Cycles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Some of my buddies are thinking about watching the Daytona 200 at Damons in > Woodbridge on Sunday evening. Anyone interested in joining us? Where is Damons? I'm not all that familiar with Woodbridge. And will Damons be showing the race? Wouldn't be fun if we go there and they have something else on tv. > This includes wives or female significant others, as Kerri (my wife) will be > there also and probably would appreciate some female companionship. (Is that > PC?) Hmmm, might be more PC to say anyone is welcome. There are probably women who are not currently anyone's wife or SO who wants to watch the race as well. :) Louis _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 09:40:32 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA10330 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:40:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA17278 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:40:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from E-MAIL.COM (known e-mail.com [204.146.168.195]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id JAA18438 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:40:27 -0500 (EST) From: ddiefend@XXXXXX Received: by E-MAIL.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via spool with SMTP id 8564 ; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:40:15 7 E Received: from mail1.dominionsc.com [32.72.67.7] by imxgate.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:39:56 4 E Received: by mail1.dominionsc.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.3 (778.2 1-4-1999)) id 85256729.0050A04F ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:40:39 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: DSC To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-ID: <85256729.00509E95.00@mail1.dominionsc.com> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:40:07 -0500 Subject: Local Paint (N. VA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I am looking for recommendations for some dent removal and paint work for my bike Sheetmetal. I am not looking for fancy flames or air brushing, just HD Vivid black, but the tank has a dent, and the fenders both have minor imperfections that I want right. Any guess of what should be spent on this? Any info appreciated. Dave From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 09:49:43 1999 Return-Path: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: from oak.us.pw.com (pw22.pw9.com [208.141.52.245]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA10483 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:49:41 -0500 (EST) From: christopher.a.weaver@XXXXXX Received: by oak.us.pw.com; id JAA17216; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:50:26 -0500 Received: from moss.us.pw.com(10.9.16.183) by oak.us.pw.com via smap (4.1) id xma016059; Wed, 3 Mar 99 09:47:31 -0500 Received: from intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com by moss.us.pw.com (PMDF V5.1-10 #U3018) with SMTP id <0F8000FFPX3RNH@XXXXXX> for dc-cycles@XXXXXX; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:48:03 -0500 (EST) Received: by intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v1.2 hotfix6 (702.3 8-27-1998)) id 85256729.0050F095 ; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:44:04 -0500 Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 09:40:11 -0500 Subject: Battley wins at Daytona To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Message-id: <85256729.0050AD02.00@intlnamsmtp20.us.pw.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: C&L US@INTL I just found this on the 2WF site: Battle of the Twins Formula One Devin Battley (No. 85 Ducati) -- "Rolf Knecht, the guy from Switzerland, got a good start and came around me in turn one. He was really on the gas. I got after him and thought, 'Man this is going to be a long race'. He was really serious competition. He pushed a little too hard and lost his front end in turn five. At that point I got motivated and turned in about three really hot laps. After that I looked back and no one was back there and I just cooled it to the checkered flag. I want to thank my employees for making it possible to come down here and race." (Battley, 48, owns a motorcycle dealership in Gaithersburg, Md.) ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. 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From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 13:28:32 1999 Return-Path: tfrazie@XXXXXX Received: from tecom-ftp.army.mil (tecom-ftp.apg.army.mil [130.114.34.12]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA14804 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 13:28:30 -0500 (EST) From: tfrazie@XXXXXX Received: from tec1.apg.army.mil (tec1.apg.army.mil [130.114.34.13]) by tecom-ftp.army.mil (2.5 Build 2639 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA18410; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:26:04 -0500 Received: from ccMail by tec1.apg.army.mil (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.31.00.5) id AA920485678; Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:28:04 -0500 Message-Id: <9903039204.AA920485678@tec1.apg.army.mil> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.31.00.5 Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 13:27:54 -0500 To: , Subject: FOR SALE: Primo 83 Yamaha Midnight Maxim 750 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Repost to correct subject line. ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: Re: Anyone interested in buying a 82 Yahama 550 Maxim? (correction 83 Yamaha Midnight Maxim 750) Author: tfrazie at TECOM Date: 2/25/99 11:29 AM I'm selling my '83 Midnight Maxim 750CC (XJ750M) Cruiser style. It's in primo shape with about 16K miles. It still looks new! Black Chrome handlebars, mufflers, etc. Lowered saddle Black chrome engine guards with new Yamaha hiway pegs New Battery Brand new tires New National Cycle windscreen with clear lowers (quick release) One of two year's production (82 and 83) Asking $1500 firm Call Tim 410 575-6254 or email tfrazie@XXXXXX From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 16:21:44 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18098 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:21:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA24286 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:21:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from www.troutman.org (known www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA00376 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:21:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from vulture (www.troutman.org [38.241.229.100]) by www.troutman.org (Netscape Messaging Server 3.56) with SMTP id 425 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:21:37 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990303162115.02013200@mail.wheatintl.com> X-Sender: mike@XXXXXX X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:21:35 -0500 To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX From: "Mike Troutman" Subject: Interesting Link Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cinematographic Stuntman http://www.asi.fr/~jmermet/goy_english.html ___________________________________________ Mike Troutman http://www.troutman.org '91 Nighthawk 750 From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 16:48:37 1999 Return-Path: dc-cycles-request@XXXXXX Received: from tove.cs.umd.edu (tove.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.42]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA18583 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:48:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from mimsy.cs.umd.edu (mimsy.cs.umd.edu [128.8.128.8]) by tove.cs.umd.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA24779 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:48:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from imo14.mx.aol.com (known imo14.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.4]) by mimsy.cs.umd.edu (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id QAA01152 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:48:32 -0500 (EST) From: MotorLE@XXXXXX Received: from MotorLE@XXXXXX by imo14.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id HAVSa05506 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:40:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:40:48 EST To: dc-cycles@XXXXXX Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: any bmw slash 5 riders out there? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 79 I'm moving soon and I have some /5 parts I don't want to bring with me. Let's see, there's a couple of front ends, a wheel or two, a final drive a rear frame section... heavy bulky stuff. Anyone willing to pick it up here in Silver Spring can have it for free as long as they take it all You can reach me best via e-mail. Colleen From dc-cycles-request Wed Mar 3 17:31:03 1999 Return-Path: ljtanner@XXXXXX Received: from smtp1.erols.com (smtp1.erols.com [207.172.3.234]) by meretrix.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA19403 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:31:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from oemcomputer (207-172-69-80.s271.tnt10.brd.va.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.69.80]) by smtp1.erols.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA02934 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:30:59 -0500 (EST) From: "LindaT" To: "DC-CYCLES" Subject: Track Day at Summit Point Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 17:33:02 -0500 Message-ID: <003901be65c5$cc83b960$5135accf@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal A friend sent me some email about Team Pro-motion having a track day out at Summit Point March 20-21 and they are looking for some volunteer cornerworkers. Anyone who's had any experie